Anti-incels

Categories: incelphobia

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'''Anti-incels''' are people on [[social media]] and other websites who [[bully]] those experiencing [[incel|inceldom]]. Anti-incels love to [[chadsplaining|chadsplain]].
The largest anti-incel forum is [[R/IncelTears|/r/inceltears]].
Anti-incels are known as a variety of other names, including: "social darwinists", "vaginacapitalists", "the [[pussy cartel]]", "[[Wikipedia]]", etc.

Anti-incels are noted for extremism. For example, an [[Incelphobia|incelphobe]] named Charels Donnelly has been to court over violent anti-incel writings.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/18/us/gun-seizures.html</ref> His weapons were temporarily seized by police and a prosecutor suggested he undergo a psychiatric evaluation to retain his guns. Anti-incels are also known for pussy rioting, [[psychiatry|psychiatric]], [[gynocentric]] doctrines, different [[xenophobia|xenophobic]] beliefs, including anti-[[ricecel]] sentiment.<ref>''Ukraine and Russia in Their Historical Encounter'', by Peter J. Potichnyj, University of Alberta, Canadian Institute of Ukrainian Studies Press, 1992 (pp. 576, 582, 665).</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WZVerBzPXQf</ref>

Anti-incels often exhibit [[selection bias]] and like to assert that adult [[virginity]] is inherently [[Alt-Right|right wing]], despite [[IncelSupport]], [[Love-shy dot com|love-shy.com]], [[Incelistan]], and [[Braincels]] being all left-leaning, and the founder of [[Braincels]] being an anarcho-communist.
Anti-incels also often regard self-identified [[List of incel forums|incel forums]] as being largely composed of "angry white men" when in truth, incel forums have a [[Demographics of inceldom|high racial diversity]].<ref>http://www.organisms.be/downloads/incels.pdf</ref>
==Gender composition==
[[Men|Male]] anti-incels sneakily and desperately [[white knight|whiteknight]] for [[femoid|women]] on Facebook and other platforms. One could also see [[Male feminists|male anti-incels]] as engaging in a form of dishonest signaling, e.g. many are themselves incel, but they lash out at self-identified incels in order to avoid being labelled as such.

Female anti-incels, on the other hand, appear to be engaging in a sophisticated form of [[virgin shaming]]. Gossiping about male "creeps" and unwanted sexual approaches is likely innate to female nature. Female anti-incels are just trying to justify their [[promiscuity]] and desire not to long-term pair-bond with men who are close to them or lower in the [[dominance hierarchy|social hierarchy]].
==Broadbrushing and punching down==
Anti-incels of any sex like to [[broadbrushing|broadbrush]] average sexually frustrated men and anti-[[Feminism|feminists]] with extremists. For example, by insisting that incel only means violent people, but then using the word to disparage anyone who thinks their celibacy lies primarily outside themselves.
Of course, incels often broad-brush as well, e.g. they stereotype large groups of people as [[Chad|Chads]] and [[foid|foids]]. But the crucial difference is that incels ''punch up'', whereas anti-incels ''punch down''. Most incels occupy lower status than most women in gynocentric Western societies.
The perception that men would dominate all women is an [[apex fallacy]]. In truth, men and women have on average roughly the same power, but men's power is more dispersed such that men are overrepresented near the top and bottom.
Average incel memes are not even actual ''punching'', but rather comparable to political satire, mostly targeted at [[double standard|double standards]] in dating, the lie of the [["It's the patriarchy"|patriarchy]], as well as [[female solipsism]] and feminist [[roastie|promiscuity positivity]].
==Anti-incels have sadistic personality disorder==
[[File:Screenshot 2019-10-17 11-53-41.png|300px|thumb|Subreddits that have the largest overlap in users with the anti-incel board IncelTears. Anti-incels are sadists, not altruists]]
If anti-incels would be intrinsically interested in the well-being of women and society, one would expect them to be interested in things like [[feminism]] and [[SJW|social justice]] (but even these are heavily marked by political opportunism by now). However, if one analyses what other boards anti-incels tend to frequent they are ''overwhelmingly'' related to ''sadism, shaming, as well as gossip about unwanted sexual approaches from males'', e.g.
[https://old.reddit.com/r/creepyPMs creepyPMs],
[https://old.reddit.com/r/sadcringe sadcringe],
[https://old.reddit.com/r/iamverybadass iamverybadass],
[https://old.reddit.com/r/justneckbeardthings justneckbeardthings],
[https://old.reddit.com/r/ihavesex ihavesex],
[https://old.reddit.com/r/gatekeeping gatekeeping],
[https://old.reddit.com/r/niceguys niceguys],
[https://old.reddit.com/r/iamverysmart iamverysmart],
[https://old.reddit.com/r/badwomensanatomy badwomensanatomy] and
[https://old.reddit.com/r/menwritingwomen menwritingwomen].
One can conclude that anti-incels are very sadistic and derive pleasure from [[bullying]].<ref>https://anvaka.github.io/sayit/?query=inceltears</ref><ref>https://subredditstats.com/subreddit-user-overlaps/inceltears</ref>
==Fueling sexism on incel forums ==
The presence of [[R/IncelTears|IncelTears]] and similar websites has increased amount of trolling activity and misogynistic content all over the [[incelosphere]]. This is due to [[anti-incel]]s providing a megaphone for the most extreme self-described [[incel]]s, energising them to create more content. 

IncelTear users also create [[sockpuppet|sockpuppets]] to post gross stuff on incel subreddits so that they can go back and re-post their fake crap on IncelTears as genuine.
== Banning attempts==
Anti-incel boards like [[R/IncelTears|IncelTears]] frequently tries to get incel forums shut down. They played a role in getting r/incels shut down, leaving it's members to create and move to [[incels.co]]. [[sarcasm|Surely, moving people to sites with no supervision will solve bigotry.]]

IncelTears found itself playing whack-a-mole, as incels re-emerged on the internet stronger than they were before, creating extremely active separate forums on external websites. Banning r/incels also re-affirmed their belief about being [[Inceldom denialism|persecuted]], energizing them to create more content. 
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==Death threats against incels==
{{See also|[[Normie#Telling incels to rope]]}}
Anti-incels are known for threatening death upon all [[nearcel]]s, [[truecel]]s and incels in their private Facebook forums and in public, often with their full names. Something many people in the [[incelosphere]] have been screencapping without making entire subreddits devoted to the screens like inceltears does with their screens of misogyny.
All the following images are screens from the anti-incel Facebook group: '''"Found the Incel"''' (banned from Facebook for harassment/violent-speech), the anti-incel Facebook group: '''"How do incels even survive"''' (banned from Facebook for terroristic threats), and the (still existing) Facebook group: '''"Incels say the darndest things"''', now private and called, '''"ISTDT"''' after the first two groups got banned.
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==Logical fallacies==
{{See also|[[Normie#Common normie tropes]]}}
Anti-incels are well-known for trying to deny or downplay involuntary celibacy through any number of logical fallacies. They are fallacies within the context of respective arguments criticizing incels.
*"You know people in Africa are starving!" (red herring),
* "If you had really tried you would have been successful!" (affirming the consequent),
*"Well everyone else is getting dates so it's just your own fault!" (sweeping generalization) (no true scotsman)
* "arranged partnerships are the Handmaids Tale" (slippery slope fallacy)
*"so its the whole world that are wrong about x and not incels, huh?" (bandwagon fallacy)
*"you cant find someone because you hate women" (causal fallacy)
*"you are just too ugly to have standards, your whole worldview is just ridiculous" (tu quoque fallacy and ad hominem)
*"theres no good reason to give up at this point" (sunk cost fallacy)
*"[[Love-shyness]] isnt real because [[Brian Gilmartin]] is fringe" (appeal to authority, red herring)
*"Have you asked out every girl in the world - if not, you're not really involuntarily celibate!" (moving the goalpost),
*"I've seen people as ugly as you with girlfriends." (cherry picking)
*"People have been having sex since the dawn of time, including your parents, so the fault isn't your ugliness." (survivorship bias)
*"Your [[toxic masculinity]] is preventing you from getting laid." (proof surrogate)
*”A incel committed mass murder so all Incels are mass murderers.” (Division/Composition)
==Anti-incels get a taste of their own medicine: deplatforming==
In 2019, the largest [[anti-incel]] group: Found the Incel, was banned from the internet by [[Facebook]] for violent speech after an outing of sample posts on Youtube by [[William]] and courageous flagging by [[Master]] and others.<ref>https://incels.is/threads/one-of-facebooks-largest-anti-incel-hate-groups-gets-banned-from-the-internet.101712/ [[https://archive.fo/1tvT4 Archive.is]]</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yz6LQEKboI</ref><ref>https://incels.is/threads/one-of-facebooks-largest-anti-incel-hate-groups-gets-banned-from-the-internet.101712/</ref><ref>https://forum.incelistan.net/t/largest-ultra-violent-feminist-group-gets-banned-from-the-internet/157</ref><ref>https://incels.is/threads/one-of-facebooks-largest-anti-incel-hate-groups-gets-banned-from-the-internet.101712/</ref> Later, one more anti-incel group were banned. The group called, "How do incels Even Survive", was banned by Facebook for terrorism (not joking).
== Notable anti-incels==
*[[Jorm]]
*[[Charels Donnelly]]
*[[Paul Joseph Watson]]
*[[Vintologi]]
*[[Alex Jones]]
*[[Ellen Pao]]
*[[Cuestar]]
*[[Jimmy Dore]]
*[[Tim Heidecker]]
*[[Ben Shapiro]]
*[[Ramzan Kadyrov]]
*[[Vladimir Putin]]
*[[Saddam Hussein]]
*[[Jan Böhmermann]]<ref>https://twitter.com/janboehm/status/1605564988554371072</ref>
==References==
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==See also==
*[[Incelphobia]]
*[[R/IncelTears|IncelTears]]
*[[Empathy gap]]
*[[Leftbook]]
*[[Braincels]]
*[[Outrage culture]]
*[[Virtue signaling]]
*[[Fat Joe]]
*[[Inceldom denialism]]
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