Design systems on the Clearleft podcast
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Published: 2020-07-10 10:05:59

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If you’ve already subscribed to [the Clearleft podcast](https://podcast.clearleft.com/), thank you! The first episode is sliding into your podcast player of choice.

This episode is all about …[design systems](https://podcast.clearleft.com/season01/episode01/)!

I’m pretty happy with how this one turned out, although as it’s the first one, I’m sure I’ll learn how to do this better. I may end up looking back at this first foray with embarrassment. Still, it’s fairly representative of what you can expect from the rest of the season.

This episode is fairly short. Just under eighteen minutes. That doesn’t mean that other episodes will be the same length. Each episode will be as long (or as short) as it needs to be. Form follows function, or in this case, episode length follows content. Other episodes will be longer. Some might be shorter. It all depends on the narrative.

This flies in the face of accepted wisdom when it comes to podcasting. The watchword that’s repeated again and again for aspiring podcasters is consistency. Release on a consistent schedule and have a consistent length for episodes. I kind of want to go against that advice just out of sheer obstinancy. If I end up releasing episodes on a regular schedule, treat it as coincidence rather than consistency.

There’s not much of me in this episode. And there won’t be much of me in most episodes. I’m just there to thread together the smart soundbites coming from other people. In this episode, the talking heads are my colleagues [Jon](https://clearleft.com/about/team/jon-aizlewood) and [James](https://clearleft.com/about/team/james-gilyead), along with my friends and peers [Charlotte](https://www.lottejackson.com/), [Paul](https://paulrobertlloyd.com/), and [Amy](https://amyhupe.co.uk/) (although there’s a Clearleft connection with all of them: Charlotte and Paul used to be Clearlefties, and Amy spoke at Patterns Day and Sofa Conf).

I spoke to each of them for about an hour, but like I said, the entire episode is less than eighteen minutes long. The majority of our conversations ended up on the cutting room floor (possibly to be used in future episodes).

Most of my time was spent on editing. It was painstaking, but rewarding. There’s a real pleasure to be had in juxtaposing two snippets of audio, either because they echo one another or because they completely contradict one another. This episode has a few examples of contradictions, and I think those are my favourite moments.

Needless to say, eighteen minutes was not enough time to cover everything about design systems. Quite the opposite. It’s barely an introduction. This is definitely a topic that I’ll be returning to. Maybe there could even be a whole season on design systems. Let me know what you think.

Oh, and you’ll notice that there’s [a transcript for the episode](https://podcast.clearleft.com/season01/episode01/). That’s a no-brainer. I’m a big fan of the spoken word, but it really comes alive when it’s combined with searchable, linkable, accessible text.

Anyway, [have a listen](https://podcast.clearleft.com/season01/episode01/) and if you’re not already subscribed, pop [the RSS feed](https://podcast.clearleft.com/podcast.xml) into your podcast player.

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