DevDiscuss Episode 8: Our Least Favorite Things About Our Favorite Languages
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Published: 2020-06-24 16:22:32

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title: DevDiscuss Episode 8: Our Least Favorite Things About Our Favorite Languages
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description: This week's episode of DevDiscuss — DEV Community's first original podcast
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They say that you should fight for love — and the same is true for our favorite programming languages. You might adore how easy it is to get started with PHP, but HATE the plethora of mistakes this can lead to. Or you might admire Python for its many, many libraries but find its non-nativity for mobile environments to be frustrating. So while we love and keep coming back to our favorite languages, wow does it feel good to vent in a safe space about them!

In this episode of DevDiscuss, @Ben and I were joined by two engineers that both share a love/hate relationship with JavaScript. 

Addy Osmani (@addyosmani) is an Engineering Manager at Google. He works on an engineering team at Google that tackles developer tooling and measurement space among many other projects. Addy considers himself a “JavaScript Janitor”. 

Ridhwana Khan (@ridhwana) is a Senior Engineer here at DEV. In addition to helping us build a better DEV Community every day, Ridhwana is an in-demand tech conference speaker and has spent a great deal of her career working to build physical, welcoming gatherings for women in tech and other underrepresented groups. 

### _In this episode, Ben, Addy, Ridhwana, and I discuss_

* JavaScript and Ruby: what we love and what we hate
* What the DevDiscuss community loves and hates about their favorite languages
* The benefits of a language that is easy to get started with — and the perils (spaghetti code!)

Listen to Episode 8 of DevDiscuss: _Our Least Favorite Things About Our Favorite Languages for a conversation about the things we _hate_ about the languages we **love**. If you enjoy it, please consider [leaving us a review on Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/devdiscuss/id1513053883). We’ll mail you a small thank you gift if you send us a screenshot of your review by June 30! All you have to do is fill out [this form](https://airtable.com/shr8oKAIMZgdYnBxx).

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You can also listen to our special mini-episode featuring the stories of LGBTQIA+ technologist pride in honor of Pride Month here:

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