Today, the distant future
Tags: 2022, html, standards, technology
Published: 2022-01-15 09:52:12

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title: Today, the distant future
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date: 2022-01-06 16:10:31 UTC
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It’s a bit of a cliché to talk about living in the future. It’s also a bit pointless. After all, any moment after the big bang is a future when viewed from any point in time before it.

Still, it’s kind of fun when a sci-fi date rolls around. Like in 2015 when we reached the time depicted in <cite>Back To The Future 2</cite>, or in 2019 when we reached the time of <cite>Blade Runner</cite>.

In 2022 we are living in the future of web standards. Again, technically, we’re always living in the future of any past discussion of web standards, but this year is significant …in a very insignificant way.

It all goes back to 2008 and [an interview with Hixie](https://web.archive.org/web/20080831092901/http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/programming-and-development/?p=718), editor of the HTML5 spec at the WHATWG at the time. In it, he mentioned the date 2022 as the milestone for having two completely interoperable implementations.

The far more important—and ambitious—date was 2012, when HTML5 was supposed to become a Candidate Recommendation, which is standards-speak for done’n’dusted.

But the mere mention of the year 2022 back in the year 2008 was too much for some people. Jeff Croft, for example, [completely lost his shit](https://web.archive.org/web/20100101015634/http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2008/sep/11/two-thousand-twenty-two/) (Jeff had a habit of posting angry rants and then denying that he was angry or ranty, but merely having a bit of fun).

The whole thing was [a big misunderstanding](http://html5doctor.com/2022-or-when-will-html-5-be-ready/) and soon irrelevant: [talk of 2022 was dropped from HTML5 discussions](https://web.archive.org/web/20110123021502/http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/FAQ#What.27s_this_I_hear_about_2022.3F). But for a while there, it was fascinating to see web designers and developers contemplate a year that seemed ludicriously futuristic. Jeff wrote:

> God knows where I’ll be in 13 years. Quite frankly, I’ll be pretty fucking disappointed in myself (and our entire industry) if I’m writing HTML in 13 years.

That always struck me as odd. If I thought like that, I’d wonder what the point would be in making anything on the web to begin with (bear in mind that both [my own personal website](https://adactio.com) and [The Session](https://thesession.org/) are now entering their third decade of life).

I had a different reaction to Jeff, as [I wrote in 2010](https://adactio.com/journal/1665):

> Many web developers were disgusted that such a seemingly far-off date was even being mentioned. My reaction was the opposite. I began to pay attention to HTML5.

But Jeff was far from alone. Scott Gilbertson wrote [an angry article on Webmonkey](https://www.wired.com/2008/09/html-5-won-t-be-ready-until-2022dot-yes-2022dot/):

> If you’re thinking that planning how the web will look and work 13 years from now is a little bit ridiculous, you’re not alone.
> 
> Even if your 2022 ronc-o-matic web-enabled toaster (It slices! It dices! It browses! It arouses!) does ship with Firefox v22.3, will HTML still be the dominant language of web? Given that no one can really answer that question, does it make sense to propose a standard so far in the future?

(I’m re-reading that article in the current version of Firefox: 95.0.2.)

[Brian Veloso wrote on his site](https://web.archive.org/web/20100114072952/http://avalonstar.com/blog/2008/sep/11/twenty-twenty-two/#001):

> Two-thousand-twenty-two. That’s 14 years from now. Can any of us think that far? Wouldn’t our robot overlords, whether you welcome them or not, have taken over by then? Will the internet even matter then?

From the comments on Jeff’s post, there’s [Corey Dutson](https://web.archive.org/web/20100101015634/http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2008/sep/11/two-thousand-twenty-two/#c147247):

> 2022: God knows what the Internet will look like at that point. Will we even have websites?

[Dan Rubin](https://web.archive.org/web/20100101015634/http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2008/sep/11/two-thousand-twenty-two/#c147250), who has indeed successfully moved from web work to photography, wrote:

> I certainly don’t intend to be doing “web work” by that time. I’m very curious to see where the web actually is in 14 years, though I can’t imagine that HTML5 will even get that far; it’ll all be obsolete before 2022.

[Joshua Works](https://web.archive.org/web/20100101015634/http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2008/sep/11/two-thousand-twenty-two/#c147251) made a prediction that’s worryingly close to reality:

> I’ll be surprised if website-as-HTML is still the preferred method for moving around the tons of data we create, especially in the manner that could have been predicted in 2003 or even today. Hell, iPods will be over 20 years old by then and if everything’s not run as an iPhone App, then something went wrong.

Someone with the moniker [Grand Caveman](https://web.archive.org/web/20100101015634/http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2008/sep/11/two-thousand-twenty-two/#c147587) wrote:

> In 2022 I’ll be 34, and hopefully the internet will be obsolete by then.

Perhaps the most level-headed observation came from [Jonny Axelsson](https://web.archive.org/web/20100101015634/http://jeffcroft.com/blog/2008/sep/11/two-thousand-twenty-two/#c151249):

> **The world in 2022 will be pretty much like the world in 2009.**
> 
> The world in 2009 is pretty much like 1996 which was pretty much like the world in 1983 which was pretty much like the world in 1970. Some changes are fairly sudden, others are slow, some are dramatic, others subtle, but as a whole “pretty much the same” covers it.
> 
> The Web in 2022 will not be dramatically different from the Web in 2009. It will be less hot and it will be less cool. The Web is a project, and as it succeeds it will fade out of our attention and into the background. We don’t care about things when they work.

Now that’s a sensible perspective!

So who else is looking forward to seeing what the World Wide Web is like in 2036?

I must remember to write a blog post then and link back to this one. I have no intention of trying to predict the future, but I’m willing to bet that hyperlinks will still be around in 14 years.

[Speaking of long bets…](https://longbets.org/601/)