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English: No. Let's crack on, Mark. Sorry. By wanting to control this regressive tax, but in complete contradiction wanting to also stay in an EU that imposes taxes over which the Welsh Government have no control and can only tug at the sleeves of their so-called friends in the EU to try to influence decisions, shows that even when it comes to low-income families, the message from this Labour Government is loud and clear: that they know better than the people how their hard-earned money should be spent. Bringing me on to my final point: on this Government's watch, parts of the Welsh NHS have become a basket case, literacy and numeracy is hardly stellar according to the Programme for International Student Assessment, and the economy has stagnated. So it's surprising that Welsh Government, at this particular time, sees fit to spend its time and attention fretting about claiming further powers from Westminster. Indeed, if Labour spent as much time trying to resolve Wales's problems as they spend wondering about what new powers they should have, what new ways they can come up with to take money off people to fund their pet projects, and doing their best to thwart Brexit, Wales would be in a much better state. Thank you.
Welsh: Na. Gadewch inni fwrw ymlaen, Mark. Mae'n ddrwg gennyf. Mae bod eisiau rheoli'r dreth atchweliadol hon, ond yn gwbl groes i hynny eisiau aros mewn UE sy'n gosod trethi nad oes gan Lywodraeth Cymru reolaeth drostynt gan allu dim ond tynnu llewys eu cyfeillion honedig yn yr UE i geisio dylanwadu ar benderfyniadau, yn dangos fod neges y Llywodraeth Lafur hon, hyd yn oed pan ddaw hi i deuluoedd incwm isel, yn glir ac yn groyw: eu bod yn gwybod yn well na'r bobl sut y dylid gwario eu harian haeddiannol. Daw hyn â mi at fy mhwynt olaf: yn ystod cyfnod y Llywodraeth hon mae rhannau o GIG Cymru yn methu â chynnal eu hunain, nid yw llythrennedd na rhifedd yn wych o bell ffordd yn ôl y Rhaglen Ryngwladol Asesu Myfyrwyr, ac mae'r economi wedi bod yn aros yn ei hunfan. Felly mae'n syndod bod Llywodraeth Cymru, ar yr adeg benodol hon, yn gweld yn dda i dreulio ei hamser a'i sylw yn gwneud cais am ragor o bwerau o San Steffan. Yn wir, pe bai Llafur yn treulio cymaint o amser yn ceisio datrys problemau Cymru ag y maen nhw'n ei dreulio'n pendroni ynghylch pa bwerau newydd y dylent eu cael, pa ffyrdd newydd y gallant eu llunio i fynd ag arian oddi ar bobl i ariannu eu hoff brosiectau, a gwneud eu gorau i rwystro Brexit, byddai Cymru mewn cyflwr llawer gwell. Diolch.
English: I'm glad to contribute to this debate today, because the devolution of air passenger duty is something that I've championed long and hard for many years, and I can't find a coherent argument to say why air passenger duty should not be devolved to this institution. In fact, I was on point in the negotiations on Silk for the Conservative group here, and when all the leaders were sitting around the negotiating table talking about income tax and talking about other measures, obviously this was one of the taxes that we did talk about. I do sympathise with the point that was introduced - I think Rhun introduced it - about Stephen Crabb's comments some four years ago now, because there was a discussion about it going to Scotland as well at that time, and the northern airports as well, and how they might be affected, and it seemed to overcome that argument for it to be transferred to Scotland. It's not our problem what's going on in Bristol. Bristol are a commercial operation, and they seem to have a very successful model, to be fair to them, with 8 million passengers going through. If someone's trying to cite Bristol as an argument why we shouldn't transfer the duty, which I think has been the case, I just don't see that that should be a reasonable argument in this debate, to be honest with you. This is about - [ Interruption.] Yes.
Welsh: Rwy'n falch o gyfrannu at y ddadl hon heddiw, oherwydd bod datganoli'r doll teithwyr awyr yn rhywbeth yr wyf wedi bod yn ei hyrwyddo'n gryf ers amser maith, ac ni allaf weld bod dadl resymegol pam na ddylai'r doll teithwyr awyr gael ei datganoli i'r sefydliad hwn. A dweud y gwir, roeddwn yn ymdrin â'r pwynt hwn yn y trafodaethau ar Silk ar ran y grŵp Ceidwadol yma, a phan oedd yr arweinwyr i gyd yn eistedd o gwmpas y bwrdd negodi'n siarad am dreth incwm a siarad am fesurau eraill, mae'n amlwg bu hon yn un o'r trethi y buom yn siarad amdani. Rwyf yn cydymdeimlo â'r pwynt a gyflwynwyd - credaf i Rhun ei gyflwyno - am sylwadau Stephen Crabb ryw bedair blynedd yn ôl erbyn hyn, oherwydd bu trafodaeth ynghylch ei roi i'r Alban hefyd ar y pryd, a'r meysydd awyr gogleddol hefyd, a sut y byddai'n effeithio arnyn nhw, ac mae'n ymddangos ei bod wedi goresgyn y ddadl honno dros ei throsglwyddo i'r Alban. Nid ein problem ni yw'r hyn sy'n digwydd ym Mryste. Mae Bryste yn weithrediad masnachol, ac ymddengys bod ganddyn nhw fodel lwyddiannus iawn, a bod yn deg â nhw, gydag 8 miliwn o deithwyr yn ei defnyddio. Os yw rhywun yn ceisio defnyddio Bryste fel dadl dros beidio â throsglwyddo'r doll, sydd wedi digwydd yn fy marn i, nid wyf yn gweld y dylai honno fod yn ddadl resymol yn y ddadl hon, a bod yn onest â chi. Mae hyn yn ymwneud â - [ torri ar draws.] Ie.
English: Just very quickly - and thanks for giving way - do you have any idea what's driving the Member for Cardiff Airport to be citing problems for Bristol as a reason not to devolve the tax to Wales?
Welsh: Yn gyflym iawn - a diolch am ildio - a oes gennych chi unrhyw syniad beth sy'n cymell yr Aelod dros Faes Awyr Caerdydd i gyfeirio at broblemau i Fryste fel rheswm dros beidio â datganoli'r dreth i Gymru?
English: This means that there are no votes to be taken today, and that brings today's proceedings to a close.
Welsh: Mae hynny'n golygu nad oes yna unrhyw bledleisiau heddiw ac sydd yn dod â'n cyfnod trafod ni i ben.
English: I just wanted to ask about access to cash. Which? has said that we're going to be in a situation where we're going to be a society - . I'm not sure if -
Welsh: Roeddwn i jest eisiau gofyn ynglŷn â mynediad at arian parod. Roedd Which? wedi dweud ein bod ni'n mynd i fod mewn sefyllfa lle rydyn ni'n mynd i fod yn gymdeithas - . Dwi ddim yn siŵr bod -
English: Just briefly, Which? has said that we're moving to a situation where there won't be access to cash and that we're going to be moving to a cashless society. What's your opinion on that, and is there a way that the Welsh Government can help to withstand this, for example by helping to install more ATMs in areas that don't have any access to cash?
Welsh: Jest yn fras, roedd Which? wedi dweud ein bod ni'n symud at sefyllfa lle na fydd yna fynediad at arian parod a'n bod ni'n mynd i fod yn symud tuag at gymdeithas heb arian. Beth yw'ch barn chi ar hynny, ac oes yna ffordd mae Llywodraeth Cymru'n gallu helpu i wrthsefyll hyn, er enghraifft trwy helpu rhoi mwy o ATMs mewn i ardaloedd sydd ddim yn cael unrhyw fath o access i arian parod?
English: I'm going to ask a question later on financial inclusion, so I can ask that at that point. But we've also heard evidence that there's not one organisation responsible for access to cash. What's your opinion as to the joint authorities cash strategy group that's been established by the British Government? Do you think this is the right space for a discussion? Do you think that there's a lack of regulation, that there's no one regulator taking responsibility in this area - what's your opinion on that?
Welsh: Dwi'n mynd i ofyn cwestiwn yn hwyrach ar gynhwysiant ariannol, felly gallaf i ofyn hynny bryd hynny. Ond dŷn ni hefyd wedi clywed tystiolaeth bod yna ddim un corff sydd yn gyfrifol am fynediad at arian parod. Beth yw'ch barn chi ynglŷn â'r joint authorities cash strategy group sydd wedi cael ei sefydlu gan Lywodraeth Prydain? Ydych chi'n credu mai hyn yw'r lle ar gyfer trafodaeth? Roedden nhw'n dweud bod yna ddiffyg rheoleiddio, bod dim un rheoleiddiwr yn cymryd cyfrifoldeb yn y maes yma - beth yw'ch barn ar hynny?
English: I think, in this discussion, what's important is that people can access services, but also that they feel empowered when they do approach those services. And that's why I believe that financial inclusion is so very important. Now, I know what you've given us here on this sheet - and that's all very shiny and all well and good - but evidence does show that it's very patchy in schools in terms of financial education, that credit unions vary a great deal and not always in a good way - some credit unions do receive more support and have more machinery underpinning them, and other credit unions might want to see that level of support and so they would need more investment from Welsh Government. So, what more can you do in terms of financial inclusion to help those people who approach these specific services?
Welsh: Dwi'n credu, yn y drafodaeth yma, beth sy'n bwysig yw bod pobl yn gallu cael mynediad at wasanaethau, ond hefyd bod nhw'n teimlo'n bwerus pan fyddan nhw'n mynd at y gwasanaeth hwnnw. A dyna pam dwi'n credu fod cynhwysiant ariannol mor bwysig. Dwi'n gwybod beth dŷch chi wedi'i roi i ni fan hyn ar daflen - ac mae hynny'n sgleiniog ac yn neis - ond mae tystiolaeth yn dangos fod e'n dal, mewn ysgolion, yn bytiog iawn o ran addysg ariannol, fod undebau credyd yn amrywiol iawn ac efallai ddim wastad oherwydd pethau da - mae rhai undebau credyd yn cael mwy o gefnogaeth a mwy o beiriant y tu ôl iddyn nhw, a byddai undebau credyd eraill eisiau gweld bach o hynny, felly mwy o fuddsoddiad gan Lywodraeth Cymru. Felly, beth mwy ydych chi'n gallu ei wneud o ran cynhwysiant ariannol i helpu pobl sy'n mynd at y gwasanaethau penodol yma?
English: I think that - . The big risk with empty properties is that, in general, it's harder to gather the council tax from the owners because, very often, we don't know where those owners reside. There are things that can be done, such as having charging orders on the property. But that's not an easy thing to set up; it isn't something that one would enter into lightly. So, that's a significant risk, that it's harder to gather those taxes. But as I said, in Gwynedd, it goes hand in hand with the second homes for us as well. And in looking at the bigger picture, we felt that introducing the premium was something that would be beneficial to do for the authority, in taking the second homes and the empty homes into account together.
Welsh: Dwi'n credu bod - . Y risg mawr efo eiddo gwag ydy ei bod hi'n gyffredinol yn anoddach i gasglu treth cyngor ganddyn nhw oherwydd eu bod nhw'n dueddol o fod - dydyn ni ddim yn gwybod, yn aml, lle mae'r perchnogion. Mae yna bethau y gallwn ni eu gwneud yr un fath â chael charging orders ar yr eiddo. Dydy hynny ddim yn beth hawdd i'w wneud; dydy o ddim yn rhywbeth y mae rhywun yn mynd i mewn iddo fo ar chwarae bach. Felly, mae hwnnw yn risg arwyddocaol, sef ei bod yn anoddach casglu. Wrth gwrs, fel roeddwn i'n ei ddweud, yng Ngwynedd, mae'r peth yn mynd law yn llaw efo'r ail gartrefi i ni hefyd. Ac wrth edrych ar y darlun llawn, roeddem ni'n teimlo y byddai cyflwyno'r premiwm yn rhywbeth oedd yn fuddiol i'w wneud ar gyfer yr awdurdod wrth gymryd yr ail gartrefi a'r eiddo gwag efo'i gilydd.
English: When we went about introducing this premium initially, and going through the process of considering the options and through the scrutiny and so forth, that was something that a number of our members did raise as a risk. I know that this idea that a lot of our empty properties are owned by people from outwith Gwynedd isn't necessarily, isn't complete, because many people within Gwynedd own these vacant homes, as you say, because they've inherited property and they want to do something with it. So, that was something that we did consider, but, on the whole, we came to the conclusion, after considering all of those issues, that it was still appropriate for us to introduce the premium because we did have the housing strategy. And what we wanted to emphasise also was it wasn't the owners of the property that were important, it was whether the property was empty or not. Our feeling was that the main thing from our housing strategy was that we wanted to bring as much of these empty properties into use again as possible without considering who the owners were.
Welsh: Pan oeddem ni'n mynd ati i gyflwyno'r premiwm ar y dechrau, ac yn mynd trwy'r broses o ystyried yr opsiynau a thrwy'r craffu ac yn y blaen, mi oedd hwnnw'n rhywbeth roedd nifer o'n haelodau ni wedi'i godi fel risg. Dwi'n gwybod bod y syniad yma bod lot o'n heiddo gwag ni o dan berchnogaeth pobl o'r tu allan i Wynedd ddim o reidrwydd, ddim yn llwyr, oherwydd mae yna nifer o dai gwag yng Ngwynedd dan berchnogaeth pobl leol, fel rydych chi'n ei ddweud, am fod pobl wedi etifeddu eiddo ar farwolaeth ac eisiau gwneud rhywbeth efo fo. Felly, mi oedd hwnnw'n rhywbeth wnaethom ni roi ystyriaeth iddo fo, ond ar y cyfan mi ddaethom ni i'r casgliad, ar ôl dod â hynny i mewn i ystyriaeth, ei fod o dal yn briodol inni gyflwyno'r premiwm oherwydd bod y strategaeth dai gennym ni. A'r hyn roeddem ni'n ei bwysleisio hefyd: nid perchnogion yr eiddo sy'n bwysig ond os ydy'r eiddo'n wag neu beidio. Y teimlad oedd gennym ni mai'r prif beth o'n strategaeth dai ni yw ein bod ni eisiau trio rhoi cymaint o'r eiddo gwag yma nôl i ddefnydd â phosib heb ystyried pwy oedd y perchnogion.
English: Well, if there's an issue with probate and so on, if there is an exception at the moment on a property, we can't levy the premium. That is part of the legislation at present. So, for example, if probate hasn't been given on a home, then it doesn't pay council tax; it has that class F exception. So, under those circumstances we would take that into consideration. We also have local discretion under section 13A of the Local Government Finance Act 1992, which gives us the right to vary taxation levels on any property if we think that's appropriate. At the moment, in Gwynedd, we introduced the premium 18 months ago and we haven't had an individual case where we've used that discretion, but it is available to us to consider. It is something that we consider annually, because we levy the premium and that is considered by the full council every year, if we're going to keep the premium for the following year or not. In doing that, we do take into account any issues that have arisen that may not have arisen previously.
Welsh: Wel, os oes yna fater efo probat ac yn y blaen, os oes yna eithriad yn barod ar eiddo, chawn ni ddim codi premiwm arno fo. Mae hynny'n rhan o'r ddeddfwriaeth ar hyn o bryd. Felly, er enghraifft, dywedwch fod probat ddim wedi cael ei roi ar dŷ, dydy o ddim yn talu treth cyngor, mae o wedi'i eithrio o dan eithriad dosbarth F. Felly, yn yr amgylchiadau yna fe allwn ni gymryd hynny i ystyriaeth. Mae gennym ni hefyd y disgresiwn lleol dan adran 13A Deddf Cyllid Llywodraeth Leol 1992, sy'n rhoi hawl inni newid y raddfa dreth ar unrhyw eiddo os ydyn ni'n meddwl bod hynny'n briodol. Ar hyn o bryd, yng Ngwynedd, rydym ni 18 mis i mewn i gyflwyno'r premiwm a dydyn ni ddim wedi cael achos unigol eto lle'r ydym ni wedi rhoi'r disgresiwn yna, ond mae o yn rhywbeth sydd ar gael inni i'w ystyried, achos mae o'n rhywbeth rydym ni'n ei ystyried yn flynyddol, achos rydym ni'n codi premiwm ac mae'n rhywbeth sy'n cael ystyriaeth gan y cyngor llawn bob blwyddyn: ydyn ni'n mynd i gadw'r premiwm am y flwyddyn nesaf neu beidio? Wrth wneud hynny, wrth gwrs, rydym ni'n cymryd i ystyriaeth unrhyw faterion sydd wedi dod i'n sylw ni efallai nad oedd wedi cael sylw yn flaenorol.
English: If it's an empty property, they have a class C exemption, which is still in force in Wales, but not in England. In Wales, if a property is vacant, for the first six months it is exempt from paying any council tax.
Welsh: Os ydy o'n eiddo gwag, maen nhw'n cael beth maen nhw'n ei alw yn eithriad dosbarth C, sydd yn parhau mewn grym yng Nghymru, dydy o ddim ar gael yn Lloegr. Ond, yng Nghymru, os ydy eiddo'n wag, am y chwe mis cyntaf mae'r eiddo'n wag mae'n eithriedig rhag talu unrhyw dreth cyngor.
English: With the empty properties we accept that there are some properties where it is difficult to collect the tax in any case, before levying the premium. The experience that we have in Gwynedd is that it isn't the premium itself that has caused the difficulty, but specific individuals. Some have been excellent at paying, and some aren't good at paying anyway. So, I think that those who paid previously have continued to do so, but those who weren't paying, then we've just got an additional 50 per cent of things that are more difficult to collect, but we're getting on with it and considering the powers available to us to do that.
Welsh: Efo eiddo gwag rydym ni'n derbyn bod yna rai mae'n anodd i gasglu beth bynnag, cyn codi'r premiwm. I ddweud y gwir, y profiad sydd gennym ni yng Ngwynedd ydy nad y premiwm ynddo'i hun sydd wedi achosi y casgliad, ond yr unigolion. Mae rhai wedi bod yn dda am dalu a dyw rhai ddim yn dda am dalu beth bynnag. Felly, dwi'n meddwl bod y rhai oedd yn talu'n flaenorol wedi parhau i wneud hynny, ond y rhai oedd ddim yn talu, mae gennym ni jest 50 y cant yn ychwanegol o bethau sy'n anoddach i'w casglu, ond rydym ni'n bwrw ymlaen ati ac yn ystyried yr opsiynau sydd ar gael i ni wneud hynny.
English: I see people picking up their headsets now - I'm going to begin to speak. Gwynedd is in an entirely different situation in the sense that I know that we're looking at empty properties here, not second properties, but the transfer of domestic council tax properties into business premises in Gwynedd is significant. We're talking over 1,000 at the moment that have transferred. We're talking about hundreds every year. And what they need to do is to assure the valuation office that the property has been available for 140 days and has been let for 70 days, and they can then transfer it, but they can also backdate it - for a number of years, in some cases - as well. As Deb and Lisa say, the majority of them - I think it's over 90 per cent, about 98 per cent in Gwynedd - have small business rates relief because their rateable value is £6,000 or less. They get it in full because - . I think almost all of them are under £12,000 and so get it in part. So, the loss to the public purse in the tax take is in the millions.
Welsh: Dwi'n gweld pobl yn gafael yn eu headsets rŵan - dwi'n mynd i ddechrau siarad. Mae Gwynedd mewn sefyllfa gwbl wahanol yn yr ystyr dwi'n gwybod mai edrych ar eiddo gwag rydym ni'n fan hyn, nid ar ail gartrefi neu'r properties occupied periodically, ond mae'r trosglwyddo o eiddo treth gyngor ddomestig i fod yn eiddo busnes yng Ngwynedd yn sylweddol. Rydym ni'n sôn am dros 1,000 ar hyn o bryd wedi'u trosglwyddo. Rydym ni'n sôn am gannoedd bob blwyddyn yn trosglwyddo drosodd o un i'r llall, felly. A'r hyn maen nhw angen ei wneud ydy sicrhau swyddfa'r brisio bod yr eiddo wedi bod ar gael am 140 diwrnod ac wedi cael ei osod am 70 diwrnod, ac nid yn unig maen nhw yn gallu ei drosglwyddo, maen nhw'n gallu ei ôl-ddyddio fo hefyd - nifer o flynyddoedd, mewn rhai achosion. Fel roedd Deb a Lisa'n ei ddweud, mae'r rhan fwyaf ohonyn nhw - dwi'n meddwl bod dros 90 y cant, tua 98 y cant yng Ngwynedd - yn cael small business rates relief am bod eu rateable value nhw yn £6,000 neu llai. Maen nhw'n ei gael o'n llwyr gan fod - dwi'n meddwl mwy neu lai bob un ohonyn nhw o dan £12,000, ac felly yn cael hynna yn rhannol, felly. Felly, mae'r golled i'r pwrs cyhoeddus rhwng y casgliad treth - rydym ni'n son am yn y miliynau.
English: We do have examples in Gwynedd that we have presented to the valuation office where we are not content that the evidence has been given. We know that the office itself has a lack of resources to do this work. We do have concerns with regard to every case that the evidence is there to satisfy us as a local authority as to how much evidence there is for the transfer. We've got some 10 exemplar cases where we are of the opinion that they shouldn't have made the transfer, but they have been transferred. This happens - in any case there are disputes between us and other Government agencies, but the feeling that we would have is that things could be more robust in terms of seeking evidence.
Welsh: Mae gennym ni enghreifftiau yng Ngwynedd rydym ni wedi eu cyflwyno i swyddfa brisio lle rydym ni yn anfodlon bod y dystiolaeth yna. Rydym ni'n gwybod bod y swyddfa brisio eu hunain efo prinder adnoddau i wneud y gwaith. Mae gyda ni bryderon ynglŷn ag ym mhob achos bod yna dystiolaeth yno i'n bodloni ni fel awdurdod lleol ynglŷn a faint o dystiolaeth sydd yna. Mae gennym ni - dwi wedi eu tynnu nhw at dua 10 achos enghreifftol lle rydym ni'n teimlo, rydym ni'n meddwl - rydym ni o'r farn, beth bynnag - na ddylai nhw wedi trosglwyddo, ond maen nhw wedi cael eu trosglwyddo. Mae hyn yn digwydd - mewn unrhyw achos mae disputes yn codi rhyngom ni ac asiantau Llywodraeth eraill, ond y teimlad sydd gyda ni ydy mi fuasai pethau'n gallu bod yn fwy cadarn o ran chwilio am dystiolaeth.
English: Gwynedd's opinion is - why is this property considered - . We know that there are genuine businesses, we know that there are genuine properties that are built, created, for holiday lets. We accept that, in an area that draws a great deal of income and has an economy that is reliant on tourism. We don't want to stifle that. But we're also aware that there are properties here that could have been homes. If it has been a domestic property then it should remain so and be subject to council tax. The right to change it comes under the 1992 Act, so that is primary legislation at the moment, to change it. But the right to give small business rates relief, that is also enshrined in legislation, in an Order. So, all of this is in an Order or in legislation. That's something we could work on.
Welsh: Barn Gwynedd ydy - wel, pam bod yr eiddo yma'n cael ei ystyried yn - . Rydym ni'n gwybod bod yna fusnesu go iawn, rydym ni'n gwybod bod yna eiddo go iawn sy'n cael ei adeiladu, yn cael eu creu, ar gyfer gosod fel cartref gwyliau. Rydym ni'n derbyn hynny, ac rydym ni mewn maes a mewn ardal sy'n cael lot o incwm ac yn ddibynnol - mae'r economi'n ddibynnol ar dwristiaeth. Y peth diwethaf rydym ni eisiau ei wneud ydy lladd hwnnw. Ond ar y llaw arall rydym ni'n ymwybodol hefyd bod yna eiddo fan hyn fuasai wedi bod yn gartrefi. Rydym ni'n cymryd y farn os yw eiddo wedi bod yn eiddo domestig yna fe ddylai aros a bod yn destun treth gyngor. Mae'r hawl i'w newid o yn dod o dan Deddf 1992, so mae hwnna'n rhan o primary legislation ar hyn o bryd, i'w newid o. Ond mae pethau fel yr hawl i roi small business rates relief, mae hwnnw yn ddeddfwriaeth hefyd, mewn Gorchymyn. So, mae pob un o'r rhain mewn Gorchmynion neu deddfwriaeth. Mae'n rhywbeth y gallwn ni weithio arno fo.
English: Well, I would -
Welsh: Wel, buaswn i'n -
English: No, it's a test. The valuation office have said, 'Give us examples. Don't just complain, give us examples.' So, these are 10 examples that we've put forward.
Welsh: Na, prawf ydy hwn. Mae'r swyddfa brisio wedi gofyn i ni, 'Dewch ag enghreifftiau. Peidiwch â chwyno, dewch ag enghreifftiau i ni.' Ac mae yna 10 enghraifft rydym ni wedi gallu darparu iddyn nhw.