English: When the board of community health councils and community health councils in Wales, the patient's voice in Wales, said they supported the passing of this Bill at Stage 2 in the law-making process, they said they were pleased to see the proposals that the Bill should be strengthened in areas, including visits and rights of access. They said the new body's rights of access to health and care settings should be set out clearly in the Bill, by introducing an amendment that said 'The citizens' voice body shall have the right to enter the premises for the purpose of exercising its functions. Such rights will be exercised and enforced in accordance with subsection 2.' They said that Welsh Ministers must prepare and publish a code of practice about the circumstances in which the body may have access to premises for the seeking of the views of individuals in respect of health or social services, and the circumstances in which the body may enter excluded premises upon the invitation of members of the public for the purpose of seeking the views of those individuals in respect of health or social services, and where access to those premises or excluded premises is permitted or has been agreed, engagement with individuals that those premises are included premises for the purpose. This addresses, for example, the concerns raised by the Welsh Local Government Association in their e-mail to Members today. Ahead of this Stage 3 debate on the Bill, they, the patient's voice in Wales, said their support for the changes continues to depend on the establishment of a new body that is properly equipped to undertake its new role on behalf of people living in all parts of Wales. They said that the citizen voice body should be able to access health and care settings so it can hear from people about health and care services and that it should do so responsibly. They said the statutory framework governing visits and rights of access for the new body must establish an operating framework that works on the presumption that the body is able to access health and care settings when it considers it needs to, unless there are specific circumstances where it would be unreasonable to do so. They said that this is how the community health councils currently operate and that it works well in the NHS. They said there's no reason why the same approach would not work with the new body. They said local authorities and NHS bodies must make sure, through their commissioning arrangements, that the body can access health and care settings operated by third-party providers such as private care homes, as well as NHS bodies, providing services across the border in England. They said the code should set out clear requirements for this. If Members really want to give voice to their constituents, if they really want to put the content of society before its form, then they must support Angela Burns's redrafted amendment.
Welsh: Pan ddywedodd bwrdd y cynghorau iechyd cymuned a'r cynghorau iechyd cymuned yng Nghymru, llais y claf yng Nghymru, eu bod nhw'n cefnogi pasio'r Bil hwn yng Nghyfnod 2 yn y broses ddeddfu, fe wnaethon nhw ddweud eu bod yn falch o weld y cynigion y dylai'r Bil gael ei gryfhau mewn meysydd, gan gynnwys ymweliadau a hawliau mynediad. Fe wnaethon nhw ddweud y dylai hawliau mynediad y corff newydd i leoliadau iechyd a gofal gael eu nodi'n glir yn y Bil, trwy gyflwyno gwelliant a oedd yn dweud y bydd gan gorff llais y dinesydd yr hawl i fynd i mewn i'r safle at ddiben arfer ei swyddogaethau. Caiff hawliau o'r fath eu harfer a'u gorfodi yn unol ag is-adran 2. Fe wnaethon nhw ddweud bod yn rhaid i Weinidogion Cymru baratoi a chyhoeddi cod ymarfer ynghylch yr amgylchiadau pan gaiff y corff fynediad i eiddo i geisio barn unigolion ar iechyd neu wasanaethau cymdeithasol, a'r amgylchiadau pan gaiff y corff fynd i mewn i eiddo wedi ei eithrio pan fydd aelodau o'r cyhoedd yn ei wahodd at ddiben ceisio barn yr unigolion hynny mewn cysylltiad ag iechyd neu wasanaethau cymdeithasol, a phan ganiateir mynediad at yr eiddo hwnnw neu'r eiddo wedi ei eithrio hwnnw, neu y cytunwyd ar hynny, ymgysylltu ag unigolion fel bod yr eiddo hwnnw yn eiddo wedi ei gynnwys at y diben hwnnw. Mae hyn yn mynd i'r afael, er enghraifft, â'r pryderon a godwyd gan Gymdeithas Llywodraeth Leol Cymru yn eu neges e-bost at yr Aelodau heddiw. Cyn y ddadl Cyfnod 3 hon ar y Bil, dywedon nhw, llais y claf yng Nghymru, fod eu cefnogaeth tuag at y newidiadau yn parhau i ddibynnu ar sefydlu corff newydd sydd wedi ei baratoi yn briodol i gyflawni ei swyddogaeth newydd ar ran pobl sy'n byw ym mhob rhan o Gymru. Fe wnaethon nhw ddweud y dylai corff llais y dinesydd allu cael mynediad at leoliadau iechyd a gofal er mwyn iddo gael clywed gan bobl ynghylch gwasanaethau iechyd a gofal ac y dylai wneud hynny mewn modd cyfrifol. Fe wnaethon nhw ddweud bod yn rhaid i'r fframwaith statudol sy'n llywodraethu ymweliadau a hawliau mynediad i'r corff newydd sefydlu fframwaith gweithredu sydd wedi ei seilio ar y rhagdybiaeth y gall y corff gael mynediad at leoliadau iechyd a gofal pan fydd o'r farn bod angen gwneud hynny, oni bai bod amgylchiadau pan fyddai'n afresymol gwneud hynny. Fe wnaethon nhw ddweud mai dyma sut y mae'r cynghorau iechyd cymuned yn gweithredu ar hyn o bryd a'i fod yn gweithio'n dda yn y GIG. Fe wnaethon nhw ddweud nad oedd unrhyw reswm pam na fyddai'r un dull gweithredu yn gweithio gyda'r corff newydd. Fe wnaethon nhw ddweud y dylai awdurdodau lleol a chyrff y GIG sicrhau, trwy eu trefniadau comisiynu, y gall y corff gael mynediad at leoliadau iechyd a gofal a weithredir gan ddarparwyr trydydd parti fel cartrefi gofal preifat, yn ogystal â chyrff y GIG, gan ddarparu gwasanaethau ar draws y ffin yn Lloegr. Fe wnaethon nhw ddweud y dylai'r cod nodi gofynion clir ar gyfer hyn. Os yw'r Aelodau yn dymuno rhoi llais i'w hetholwyr yn wirioneddol, os ydyn nhw wir eisiau rhoi cynnwys y gymdeithas o flaen ei ffurf, yna mae'n rhaid iddyn nhw gefnogi'r gwelliant wedi ei ailddrafftio gan Angela Burns.