English: Whether it's council houses or not, or whether it's social housing or not, you have got the dominance of this market of these large house builders who, as Mike Hedges has said, have no incentive to meet demand in full and who build in areas of very high demand and don't build houses that are affordable to those people who already live in those areas or live in areas just outside, to the north, which are lower income areas. So, as long as you've got this cartel dominating the market, then you're not going to be able to resolve the social housing problem either. It was actually in 2013 that Persimmon said that they will no longer be building homes north of Pontypridd. They've said that publicly. Professor John Punter, professor of urban design at Cardiff University, said that there's no reason why we should be singling out particular areas of Wales not to build in. It comes down to the points that Mike Hedges has made: it's about the fact that once you start settling demand, then there's no reason to make a profit, there's less ability to make a profit, but also, need will never be met - need will never be met. So, I can see why it would be sensible to support Plaid Cymru's amendments, because the fact that we need to focus on social housing in areas that are not met by the demand curve, that are not meeting housing need, that is a must and therefore I can perfectly see that social housing needs to be a focus of the Welsh Government, and I urge the Welsh Government therefore to also support that. It's not just an issue of housing, as has already been said, it's also an issue of the economy and growing the economy in those northern Valleys areas that I represent, but also in rural areas of Wales as well. The housing document that the Welsh Conservatives produced is interesting but the section on land supply doesn't talk about the cost of remediation. It isn't a costed document. The private sector cannot afford to meet the cost of remediation in many cases. The Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee are just about to start an inquiry into SMEs and house building, and I'm pretty sure that remediation of land will be a huge issue and it is a fact that local authorities have not got that funding either. I'm not a particularly partisan person, but austerity has certainly played a part in that lack of remediation of land, and the Conservatives must face up to that and take responsibility for it. One of the other issues that I've raised has been the need for a strategic development plan. The First Minister mentioned - I think it was at his first First Minister's questions - the fact that the Cardiff capital region are now working on a strategic development plan and he's looking to see that operationalised. So, I say to the First Minister, 'Please, press that with the Cardiff capital region', and to the housing Minister, 'Press that with the capital region'; we need to see progress on that, and we need to see progress on that quickly. But the fact is, the debate we've had today is, in many ways, sensible, grown up, and slightly partisan too, as any debate that Leanne Wood is involved in will be, but it's not the kind of debate we would have out there in public. It isn't the kind of debate that we have during election times. Let's be sensible about this. If we're going to achieve a consensus, then we've got to stop using the kind of language that we use during the frenetic period of election campaigns.
Welsh: Boed yn dai cyngor ai peidio, neu'n dai cymdeithasol ai peidio, mae gennych oruchafiaeth y cwmnïau adeiladu tai mawr hyn ar y farchnad, cwmnïau, fel y dywedodd Mike Hedges, sydd heb unrhyw gymhelliant i ateb y galw'n llawn ac sy'n adeiladu mewn ardaloedd lle y mae'r galw'n uchel iawn ac nid ydynt yn adeiladu tai sy'n fforddiadwy i bobl sy'n byw yn yr ardaloedd hynny eisoes neu'n byw mewn ardaloedd ychydig y tu allan, i'r gogledd, sy'n ardaloedd incwm is. Felly, cyn belled â bod gennych gartél yn dominyddu'r farchnad, ni fyddwch yn gallu datrys y broblem tai cymdeithasol chwaith. Yn 2013 y dywedodd Persimmon na fyddant yn adeiladu cartrefi i'r gogledd o Bontypridd mwyach. Maent wedi dweud hynny'n gyhoeddus. Dywedodd yr Athro John Punter, athro mewn dylunio trefol ym Mhrifysgol Caerdydd, nad oes unrhyw reswm pam y dylem fod yn neilltuo ardaloedd penodol yng Nghymru ar gyfer peidio ag adeiladu ynddynt. Gwnaeth Mike Hedges y pwyntiau eisoes: mae a wnelo â'r ffaith, pan fyddwch yn dechrau ateb y galw, nid oes unrhyw reswm i wneud elw, mae llai o allu i wneud elw, ond hefyd, ni fydd yr angen byth yn cael ei ddiwallu - ni fydd yr angen byth yn cael ei ddiwallu. Felly, gallaf weld pam y byddai'n synhwyrol i gefnogi gwelliannau Plaid Cymru, oherwydd mae'n rhaid inni ganolbwyntio ar dai cymdeithasol mewn ardaloedd na chânt eu diwallu gan y cromlin galw, ardaloedd nad ydynt yn cyrraedd yr angen am dai, ac felly gallaf weld yn berffaith fod angen i dai cymdeithasol fod yn ffocws i Lywodraeth Cymru, ac felly rwy'n annog Llywodraeth Cymru i gefnogi hynny hefyd. Nid mater o dai yn unig yw hyn, fel y dywedwyd eisoes, mae hefyd yn fater o economi a thyfu'r economi yn ardaloedd y Cymoedd gogleddol rwy'n eu cynrychioli, ond hefyd mewn ardaloedd gwledig o Gymru yn ogystal. Mae'r ddogfen dai a lluniodd y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig yn ddiddorol, ond nid yw'r adran ar gyflenwad tir yn sôn am y gost o adfer. Nid yw'n ddogfen wedi'i chostio. Ni all y sector preifat fforddio talu'r gost o adfer mewn llawer o achosion. Mae Pwyllgor yr Economi, Seilwaith a Sgiliau ar fin dechrau ymchwiliad i fusnesau bach a chanolig ac adeiladu tai, ac rwy'n eithaf sicr y bydd adfer tir yn fater enfawr ac mae'n ffaith nad yw'r cyllid hwnnw gan awdurdodau lleol chwaith. Nid wyf yn berson arbennig o ddallbleidiol, ond mae cyni yn sicr wedi chwarae rhan yn y diffyg adfer tir, a rhaid i'r Ceidwadwyr wynebu hynny ac ysgwyddo cyfrifoldeb am hynny. Un o'r materion eraill a godais yw'r angen am gynllun datblygu strategol. Soniodd y Prif Weinidog - credaf mai yn ystod ei gwestiynau cyntaf i'r Prif Weinidog y gwnaeth hynny - fod prifddinas-ranbarth Caerdydd bellach yn gweithio ar gynllun datblygu strategol ac mae'n awyddus i'w weld yn cael ei weithredu. Felly, dywedaf wrth y Prif Weinidog, 'Pwyswch am hynny gyda phrifddinas-ranbarth Caerdydd', ac wrth y Gweinidog tai, 'Pwyswch am hynny gyda'r prifddinas-ranbarth'; mae angen inni weld cynnydd ar hynny, ac mae angen inni weld cynnydd ar hynny'n gyflym. Ond y ffaith amdani yw fod y ddadl a gawsom heddiw, mewn llawer o ffyrdd, yn synhwyrol, yn aeddfed, ac ychydig yn ddallbleidiol hefyd, fel y bydd unrhyw ddadl y bydd Leanne Wood yn rhan ohoni, ond nid dyma'r math o ddadl y byddem yn ei chael allan gyda'r cyhoedd. Nid dyma'r math o ddadl a gawn ar adeg etholiad. Gadewch inni fod yn synhwyrol ynglŷn â hyn. Os ydym am sicrhau consensws, rhaid i ni roi'r gorau i ddefnyddio'r math o iaith a ddefnyddiwn yn ystod cyfnodau gorffwyll ymgyrchoedd etholiadol.