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English: We don't have the ability to legislate for them to receive money directly from the consolidated fund. So, the money will have to come through Commission funding, as part of that. So, the arrangements for how that funding will be agreed within the Assembly, that's another issue that's being discussed now, and, as the Llywydd says, I would like to know what your recommendations are on that.
Welsh: Does gennym ni ddim y gallu i ddeddfu i ganiatáu iddyn nhw dderbyn arian yn uniongyrchol o'r gronfa gyfunol. Felly, bydd yr arian yn gorfod dod drwy gyllid y Comisiwn, ac felly yn rhan o hynny. Ond, y trefniadau ar gyfer sut bydd y cyllid yna yn cael ei gytuno o fewn y Cynulliad, mae hwnnw'n fater arall sy'n dal yn cael ei drafod, ac, yn wir, fel mae'r Llywydd yn ei ddweud, byddai o ddiddordeb gen i wybod beth fyddai eich argymhellion chi ar hynny.
English: So, if it doesn't come directly from the consolidated fund, you don't anticipate the need for the involvement of the auditor general, for example, as you would need if it were to come directly from that fund.
Welsh: Felly, os dyw e ddim yn dod yn uniongyrchol o'r gronfa gyfunol, dŷch chi ddim yn rhagweld angen i ymwneud â'r archwilydd cyffredinol, er enghraifft, fel byddai angen ichi wneud petai yn dod yn uniongyrchol o'r gronfa honno.
English: No, we wouldn't, but having said that, we are discussing the issue with the audit office at the moment, to ensure that the audit arrangements for the Electoral Commission will still work at a UK level with one corporate plan and one budget for the entire UK. So, we're having discussions with the audit office now about how the audit would work, but those are the kinds of discussions I will have with the audit office.
Welsh: Na, fyddem ni ddim, ond wedi dweud hynny, mi ydym ni yn trafod y mater gyda'r swyddfa archwilio ar y foment, er mwyn gwneud yn siŵr y bydd y trefniadau archwilio ar gyfer y Comisiwn Etholiadol yn dal i weithio ar lefel Brydeinig gydag un cynllun corfforaethol ac un cyllid ar gyfer y Deyrnas Unedig i gyd. Felly, rŷm ni wrthi yn cael trafodaethau gyda'r swyddfa archwilio ar y foment ar sut buasai'r archwilio yn cael ei wneud, ond dyna'r math o drafodaethau y byddaf i'n eu cael gyda'r swyddfa archwilio.
English: And of course it's important to bear in mind that the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish Government are about to introduce legislation too that will possibly include arrangements for the devolution of this work to the Scottish Parliament, and the Electoral Commission is very eager to see processes that are relatively similar in Scotland and in Wales. I'm not saying that that has to be the case, but this is something that we are working on with the Scottish Government and Parliament too, so that we can implement this in the context of the speaker's committee and the Treasury in terms of the funding required in order to deliver this work.
Welsh: Wrth gwrs, mae'n bwysig i wybod bod Senedd yr Alban, Llywodraeth yr Alban, ar fin cyflwyno deddfwriaeth hefyd a fydd yn cynnwys, o bosib, trefniadau ar gyfer datganoli'r gwaith yma i Senedd yr Alban hefyd, ac mae'r Comisiwn Etholiadol yn awyddus i weld prosesau sydd yn weddol debyg yn yr Alban ac yng Nghymru. Dyw hynny ddim yn dweud bod yn rhaid i hynny fod, ond mae hwn yn rhywbeth lle rŷm ni'n gweithio gyda Llywodraeth a Senedd yr Alban arno hefyd, fel ein bod ni'n gallu rhoi hwn ar waith mewn cyd-destun y s peaker's committee a'r Trysorlys hefyd o ran yr arian sy'n deillio sydd yn angenrheidiol i wireddu'r gwaith yma.
English: If I could just go back to the Electoral Commission, one thing we didn't ask was about the oversight arrangements of the Electoral Commission's work and the suggestion that we need a new committee to scrutinise on the work of the commission. Do you think that that is the most appropriate option, or do you think that one of the existing Assembly committees could do that work?
Welsh: Os caf i jest fynd nôl at y Comisiwn Etholiadol am funud, un peth na wnaethom ni ddim holi, wrth gwrs, oedd ynglŷn â threfniadau goruchwylio gwaith y Comisiwn Etholiadol a'r awgrym bod angen pwyllgor newydd i graffu ar waith y comisiwn. Ydych chi'n credu mai dyna'r opsiwn mwyaf addas neu ydych chi'n meddwl y byddai un o bwyllgorau presennol y Cynulliad yn gallu gwneud y job yna?
English: Well, I've yet to come to a final conclusion on this. The evidence the committees are currently gathering on this issue, and your views as the two committees dealing with this, namely finance and the constitutional affairs committees, will be useful to me. The Electoral Commission has a view that they are eager to see any oversight or scrutiny committee chaired by the Llywydd or the Deputy Llywydd, because they believe them to be more neutral politically, because of the sensitive political work that the Electoral Commission is involved with, and to reflect the Speaker's Committee in that regard. Whether we need a new committee to do that, that's another issue. The Commission, of course, is one committee of this place, and we have other committees where this work could be done. So, what I would say is that I'd be eager to hear your views. As a committee, for example, you carry out scrutiny work on certain bodies, so you do have experience in that regard. I will look forward to hearing your views on the arrangements that you think will be most appropriate, and that will be most interesting and influential, but I've yet to make a final decision.
Welsh: Wel, dwi heb ddod i unrhyw gasgliad terfynol ar hyn. Mae'r dystiolaeth mae'r pwyllgorau ar hyn o bryd yn ei chymryd ar y mater yna, a'ch barn chi fel y ddau bwyllgor sydd yn ymwneud â hyn - cyllid a chyfansoddiadol - yn mynd i fod yn ddefnyddiol i'w wybod. Mae gan y Comisiwn Etholiadol farn eu bod nhw'n awyddus i weld unrhyw bwyllgor trosolwg sgrwtini yn cael ei gadeirio gan y Llywydd neu'r Dirprwy Lywydd, oherwydd eu bod nhw'n meddwl fod y rheini'n fwy niwtral yn wleidyddol, oherwydd y gwaith sensitif gwleidyddol etholiadol mae'r Comisiwn Etholiadol yn ymgymryd ag ef, ac i adlewyrchu'r Speaker's Committee. P'un ai a oes angen pwyllgor newydd i wneud hynny, mae hwnnw'n fater arall. Mae'r Comisiwn, wrth gwrs, yn un pwyllgor fan hyn, ac mae gyda ni bwyllgorau posib eraill y gellid fod yn gyfrifol. Felly, yr hyn fyddwn i'n dweud yw y byddwn i'n awyddus i glywed beth yw'ch barn chi. Rŷch chi fel pwyllgor, er enghraifft, yn gwneud gwaith goruchwylio ar rai cyrff hefyd, felly mae gyda chi brofiad yn hynny o beth. Byddai clywed eich barn chi ar y trefniadau rŷch chi'n credu fyddai'n berthnasol yn ddiddorol ac yn ddylanwadol, ond dwi heb gymryd unrhyw benderfyniad terfynol ar hyn o bryd.
English: Thank you. Sorry that I jumped back to that, but I thought it was an important point to note. One of the things that this committee always preaches about is that it's good practice to ensure that there is post-implementation scrutiny that's conducted. There's no provision for that in what you propose. Is that something that you would consider including?
Welsh: Iawn. Mae'n ddrwg gyda fi fy mod i wedi neidio nôl at hwnna - roeddwn i'n meddwl ei fod e'n bwynt pwysig i'w godi. Un o'r pethau mae'r pwyllgor yma wastad yn pregethu yw ei bod hi'n arfer dda i sicrhau bod yna graffu ôl-ddeddfwriaethol yn digwydd. Does yna ddim darpariaeth ar gyfer hynny yn yr hyn rŷch chi'n gynnig. Ydy hynny'n rhywbeth y byddech chi'n ystyried ei gynnwys?
English: I have no opposition in principle to post-legislative scrutiny. I'm open to that if it is an issue that the committee believes to be important. I understand your views. The figures included in the costs for this Bill are quite a bit lower than the costs of various other aspects of legislation that comes through this place. So, that is one issue perhaps that you may want to consider if you were to make such a recommendation, in terms of being proportionate in relation to the content of this particular Bill.
Welsh: Does gyda fi ddim gwrthwynebiad mewn egwyddor i graffu ôl-ddeddfwriaethol. Dwi'n agored i hynny os ydy e'n fater mae'r pwyllgor yn credu sy'n bwysig. Dwi'n deall y safbwynt dŷch chi'n gwneud. Mae'r symiau, efallai, sy'n rhan o'r costau i'r Mesur yma dipyn yn llai na'r symiau sydd yn gysylltiedig â nifer o wahanol agweddau o ddeddfwriaeth sydd yn dod drwy'r lle yma. Felly, mae hwnna'n un mater efallai y byddech chi eisiau ystyried os byddech chi'n cyflwyno argymhelliad o'r math yna, o ran bod yn proportionate i beth yw cynnwys y Mesur penodol yma.
English: Fine. Do Members have any further questions? No, everyone's content. Could I thank the Llywydd and the officials for joining us this morning to give us evidence? You'll have a copy of the transcript, as is usual, to ensure that that is accurate. Thank you very much again for joining us.
Welsh: Iawn. Oes yna unrhyw gwestiynau pellach gan Aelodau? Na, dŷn ni'n hapus. Iawn. A gaf i ddiolch i'r Llywydd a'r swyddogion am ddod atom ni i roi tystiolaeth i ni? Fe gewch chi, wrth gwrs, gopi o'r trawsgrifiad, fel sy'n arferol, i sicrhau bod hwnnw'n gywir. Diolch o galon i chi am ddod atom ni.
English: We will as a committee go into a private session. So, I propose in accordance with Standing Order 17.42 (vi) that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. Are Members content? Yes. Thank you very much, we will go into private session. Thank you.
Welsh: Mi wnawn ni fel pwyllgor nawr symud i sesiwn breifat. Felly, yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42 (vi), dwi'n cynnig bod y pwyllgor yn gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod. Ydy Aelodau'n fodlon â hynny? Ydyn. Dyna ni. Diolch yn fawr. Fe symudwn ni i sesiwn breifat, felly. Diolch.
English: We'll move on, therefore, to item 2, and this committee's inquiry into mental health in the context of policing and police custody. The first evidence session of the day is with Healthcare Inspectorate Wales. This, of course, is the first evidence session in our one-day inquiry today. We will be taking oral evidence all day in the context of policing and police custody. So, in this first session, I'm very pleased to welcome Dr Kate Chamberlain, chief executive of Healthcare Inspectorate Wales, and also Rhys Jones, head of escalation and enforcement, Healthcare Inspectorate Wales. You will know how things work by now and you'll also be aware that the microphones operate automatically. There is no need for you to touch anything. We're thankful for all the written evidence we have received beforehand and, therefore, as usual, we'll proceed straight into questions, and the first questions are from Helen Mary Jones.
Welsh: Rŷn ni'n symud ymlaen, felly, i eitem 2 ac ymchwiliad y pwyllgor yma i iechyd meddwl yng nghyd-destun plismona a dalfa'r heddlu. Dyma'r sesiwn dystiolaeth gyntaf o'r dydd, gydag Arolygiaeth Gofal Iechyd Cymru. Dyma, wrth gwrs, ydy'r sesiwn dystiolaeth gyntaf yn ein hymchwiliad undydd heddiw. Trwy'r dydd fe fyddwn ni'n cymryd tystiolaeth ar lafar, megis, yng nghyd-destun plismona a dalfa'r heddlu. Felly, i'r sesiwn gyntaf yma, dwi'n falch iawn o groesawu Dr Kate Chamberlain, prif weithredwr Arolygiaeth Gofal Iechyd Cymru, a hefyd Rhys Jones, pennaeth uwch-gyfeirio a gorfodi, Arolygiaeth Gofal Iechyd Cymru. Mi fyddwch chi'n gwybod y drefn erbyn hyn. Byddwch chi hefyd yn ymwybodol mai'r meicroffonau yn gweithio'n awtomatig. Does dim rhaid cyffwrdd â dim byd. Rydyn ni'n diolch am bob tystiolaeth ysgrifenedig rŷn ni wedi'i derbyn ymlaen llaw. Ac felly, yn ôl ein harfer, fe awn ni'n syth mewn i gwestiynau, ac mae'r cwestiynau cyntaf dan ofal Helen Mary Jones.
English: Thank you very much. Darren Millar has the next two questions.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Mae'r ddau gwestiwn nesaf dan ofal Darren Millar.
English: Moving on now to crisis care services. David Rees.
Welsh: Symud ymlaen nawr at wasanaethau gofal argyfwng. David Rees.
English: Okay. Right, we're out of time. Thank you very much for your attendance this morning and also for answering the questions posed to you this morning. So, you will receive a transcript of today's proceedings in order for you to check that it is factually accurate. Thank you very much to both of you. And to my fellow Members, we're going to break for a few minutes until the next witnesses arrive. So, we'll break for 10 minutes. Thank you.
Welsh: Ocê. Reit, dŷn ni allan o amser. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich presenoldeb y bore yma a hefyd am ateb y cwestiynau a osodwyd gerbron. Mi fyddwch chi yn derbyn trawsgrifiad o'r drafodaeth yma er mwyn i chi allu gwirio ei fod e'n ffeithiol gywir. Gyda hynny, gallaf i ddiolch yn fawr iawn i'r ddau ohonoch chi. Ac i fy nghyd-Aelodau, fe gawn ni doriad byr nawr i gael y tystion nesaf i mewn. So, byddwn ni nôl mewn 10 munud. Diolch yn fawr.
English: Welcome back everyone to the latest session of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee here at the Senedd. We've reached item 3 by now, and a continuation of our one-day inquiry into mental health in policing and police custody. This is an evidence session with the National Chief Police Council. And I'd like to welcome assistant chief constable Jonathan Drake, who is the regional lead for the National Police Chiefs Council. Welcome to you. Good morning.
Welsh: Croeso nôl i bawb i adran ddiweddaraf y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yn y Senedd. Dŷn ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 3 erbyn rŵan, a pharhad o'n hymchwiliad undydd ni i mewn i iechyd meddwl yng nghyd-destun plismona a dalfa'r heddlu. Y sesiwn yma ydy sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chyngor Cenedlaethol Penaethiaid yr Heddlu. Ac i'r perwyl yma, dwi'n falch iawn o groesawu i'r bwrdd y prif gwnstabl cynorthwyol Jonathan Drake, arweinydd rhanbarthol Cyngor Cenedlaethol Penaethiaid yr Heddlu. Croeso. Bore da i chi.
English: And we go straight into questions. We have several questions to ask on all kinds of situations, and Vikki will begin. Vikki.
Welsh: Ac awn ni'n syth i mewn i gwestiynau. Mae yna nifer fawr o gwestiynau ar bob math o sefyllfaoedd, ac mae Vikki'n mynd i ddechrau. Vikki.
English: Okay, all content? There we are, that's the end of the session and the end of the questions. Thank you very much to you and thank you for attending -
Welsh: Ocê, pawb yn hapus? Dyna ni, dyna ddiwedd y sesiwn a diwedd y cwestiynau. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi. Diolch am eich presenoldeb -
English: Okay. We have come to the end. Thank you very much. Thank you for attending and thank you for your written evidence. You will receive a transcript of the proceedings so that you can check them for factual accuracy. Thank you very much to you.
Welsh: Ocê. Dyna'r diwedd. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi. Diolch am eich presenoldeb. Diolch am y dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig. Mi fyddwch chi'n derbyn trawsgrifiad o'r trafodaethau yma er mwyn i chi allu gwirio eu bod nhw'n ffeithiol gywir. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi.
English: To my fellow Members, we'll have a break now, and the next witnesses will be here at 12.30 p.m Thank you.
Welsh: I fy nghyd-Aelodau, fe gawn ni doriad nawr, ac mae'r tystion nesaf yma am 12.30 p.m Diolch yn fawr.
English: Welcome back all to this afternoon's section of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee meeting here in the Senedd.
Welsh: Croeso yn ôl i bawb i adran y prynhawn o gyfarfod y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yn y Senedd.
English: We have reached item 4 now, and this is a continuation of our one-day inquiry into mental health in the policing and police custody. This is the evidence session with representatives from the local health boards, and we're very pleased to welcome you to the table. We're also grateful to you for the written evidence that you have submitted beforehand, and, as I've already said, this is the third session on this subject today. So, I'm very pleased to welcome to the table, Richard Jones, head of clinical innovation and strategy, Hywel Dda University Health Board; Ian Wile, director of operations for mental health, Cardiff and Vale University Health Board; Philip Lewis, head of mental health nursing, Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board - our new health board, yes, very good; and Dr Chris O'Connor, consultant clinical psychologist and the divisional director for mental health and learning disabilities, Aneurin Bevan University Health Board. Welcome to you all. And, as usual, time is a little tight. There are a number of questions to be asked. So, we'll go straight into questioning, and the first questions are from Vikki Howells.
Welsh: Dŷn ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 4 erbyn rŵan, a pharhad o'n hymchwiliad undydd ni mewn i iechyd meddwl yng nghyd-destun plismona a dalfa'r heddlu. Dyma sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda chynrychiolwyr y byrddau iechyd lleol, a dŷn ni'n falch iawn i'ch croesawu at y bwrdd. Dŷn ni hefyd yn ddiolchgar am y dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig dŷch chi wedi'i chyflwyno ymlaen llaw, ac, fel dwi wedi crybwyll eisoes, hon ydy'r drydedd sesiwn ar y pwnc yma heddiw. Felly, dwi'n falch iawn i groesawu i'r bwrdd, Richard Jones, pennaeth strategaeth ac arloesi clinigol, Bwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Hywel Dda; Ian Wile, cyfarwyddwr gweithrediadau ar gyfer iechyd meddwl, Bwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Caerdydd a'r Fro; Philip Lewis, pennaeth nyrsio iechyd meddwl, Bwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Cwm Taf Morgannwg - ein bwrdd iechyd newydd ni, ie, da iawn; a Dr Chris O'Connor, seicolegydd clinigol ymgynghorol a'r cyfarwyddwr adrannol ar gyfer iechyd meddwl ac anableddau dysgu, Bwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Aneurin Bevan. Croeso i chi i gyd. Ac, yn ôl ein harfer, mae amser ychydig bach yn dynn. Mae yna nifer helaeth o gwestiynau i'w gofyn. Felly, awn ni'n syth mewn i gwestiynu, ac mae'r cwestiynnau cyntaf o dan ofal Vikki Howells.
English: Okay. Moving on now to health-based places of safety, and these questions are from Helen Mary Jones.
Welsh: Ocê. Symud ymlaen nawr i fannau diogel yn seiliedig ar iechyd, ac mae yna gwestiynau gyda Helen Mary Jones.
English: Okay. Any other questions? No. Well, that is the end of the session. Thank you very much. Thank you for the papers beforehand as well, and for your attendance this afternoon. May I let you know that you'll get a transcript of the discussions to check them for factual accuracy? So, thank you very much. May I just announce that we'll take a break until the next witnesses? We will be back in 10 minutes.
Welsh: Ocê. Unrhyw gwestiynau eraill? Na. Dyna ddiwedd y sesiwn. Diolch yn fawr iawn ichi. Diolch am y papurau ymlaen llaw hefyd, a diolch am fod yma brynhawn yma. Gaf i bellach gadarnhau eich bod chi'n mynd i dderbyn trawsgrifiad o'r trafodaethau yma er mwyn ichi hefyd gallu gwirio eu bod nhw'n ffeithiol gywir? Diolch yn fawr iawn ichi. Diolch yn fawr. Gaf i gyhoeddi i'm cyd-Aelodau cawn ni doriad tan y tystion nesaf? Byddwn ni nôl mewn 10 munud.
English: Welcome back, all. We've reached item 5 on the agenda of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee that's meeting in the Senedd today. Item 5, of course, is a continuation of our one-day inquiry into mental health in policing and police custody. We've now reached the evidence session with the chair of the mental health crisis concordat assurance group, which, I must say, is a great title, but I'm very pleased to welcome to the table, Sara Moseley, chair of the mental health crisis concordat assurance group. We're very grateful to you for attending, in the first instance, and also for providing us with written evidence in advance. Thank you very much for that. And, on the basis of that, and on the basis of other written evidence - a great load of it, actually - we have a list of questions to ask, and then, as is traditional in this committee, we'll go straight into questions. Vikki Howells has the first questions. Vikki.
Welsh: Croeso yn ôl i bawb. Dŷn ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 5 ar agenda y Pwyllgor iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yn y Senedd. Eitem 5, wrth gwrs, ydy parhad o'n hymchwiliad un dydd ni i mewn i iechyd meddwl yng nghyd-destun plismona a dalfa yr heddlu. Dŷn ni wedi cyrraedd rŵan sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda chadeirydd grŵp sicrwydd y concordat gofal mewn argyfwng iechyd meddwl, sydd yn glamp o deitl, mae'n rhaid i fi ei ddweud, ond dwi'n falch iawn o groesawu i'r bwrdd felly, Sara Moseley, cadeirydd grŵp sicrwydd y concordat gofal mewn argyfwng iechyd meddwl. Dŷn ni'n ddiolchgar iawn am eich presenoldeb, yn y lle cyntaf, a hefyd am y ddarpariaeth o dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig ymlaen llaw. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am hwnna. Ac, yn seiliedig ar hwnna, ac ar dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig arall - llond llwyth ohono fe, i ddweud y gwir - mae gyda ni restr o gwestiynau i'w gofyn, ac wedyn, fel sy'n draddodiadol yn y pwyllgor yma, awn ni'n syth mewn i gwestiynu felly. Mae Vikki Howells yn mynd i ofyn y cwestiynau cyntaf. Vikki.
English: The next questions are from Helen Mary Jones.
Welsh: Mae'r cwestiynau nesaf o dan ofal Helen Mary Jones.
English: Okay. The next questions are on urgent crisis care mental health services, and David Rees will ask them.
Welsh: Ocê. Mae'r cwestiynau nesaf ar wasanaethau iechyd meddwl gofal argyfwng brys, ac mae David Rees yn mynd i'w gofyn nhw.
English: Right, we've come to the end of the questions. So, thank you very much for your attendance, and also for your written and oral evidence that we received beforehand. You will receive a transcript of today's proceedings, in order to check that they are factually accurate. But with those closing words, thank you very much. And to my fellow Members, we'll have a break until the Minister arrives at 14.20 p.m.
Welsh: Reit, rŷm ni wedi dod i ddiwedd y cwestiynau. So, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich presenoldeb, a hefyd am gyflwyno eich tystiolaeth ar lafar mor raenus, a hefyd am y dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig ymlaen llaw. Mi fyddwch chi yn derbyn trawsgrifiad o'r trafodaethau yma, er mwyn gallu gwirio eu bod nhw'n ffeithiol gywir. Ond gyda chymaint â hynny o ragymadrodd, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi. Ac i fy nghyd-Aelodau, gawn ni doriad nawr tra dŷn ni'n disgwyl am y Gweinidog am 14.20 p.m.
English: To note formally. Yes, we'll do that now, then.
Welsh: I nodi yn ffurfiol. Iawn, fe wnawn ni hynny nawr.
English: So, item 7, before we go to a break, is papers note, and we note the letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services regarding rural healthcare. All content to note?
Welsh: So, eitem 7, cyn inni fynd i doriad, ydy nodi'r llythyr yna oddi wrth y Gweinidog ynglŷn â gofal iechyd gwledig. Pawb yn hapus i nodi?
English: We'll have a discussion again about the letter to be written, but we'll note in public. Thank you. And with that, we'll move on to have a break now until the Minister will join us at the last evidence session at 14.20 p.m.
Welsh: Fe gawn ni drafodaeth eto ynglŷn â'r llythyr i'w ysgrifennu, ond mi wnawn ni nodi'n gyhoeddus. Diolch yn fawr. Ac efo hynna, fe wnawn ni symud ymlaen i gael toriad rŵan nes bydd y Gweinidog yma ar gyfer y sesiwn olaf o dystiolaeth am 14.20 p.m.