English: Well, there is something here about understanding the proposals referred to earlier by David Rees, who talked about thoracic surgery and the major trauma centre. Those really are specialist health service consultations that need to take place. And my concern has always been that, if we avoid dealing with issues, then we'll allow ourselves to get into a position where the debate is more difficult, and the need to change is more urgent. So, I don't think it would be helpful to try and stop the health service from running consultations on the way in which services should change and be reformed. But of course, there are a wide range of those services that are properly about how health and social care work together. So, I expect health boards to have proper relationships and conversations with social care partners. For example, on the consultation about Bridgend, which is ongoing at present, there is absolutely a conversation, not just with Bridgend local authority, but actually with partners in Swansea, Neath Port Talbot, and of course RCT and Merthyr as well, about the potential impact of those. So, there is a willingness and a recognition that health and social care need to work more closely together. Regional partnership boards and the public service boards are part of that, and when you get to having a consultation, I expect that to be the case as well. But I really don't think there is a case to say we should pause and stop what's being done now; we need to learn and improve, rather than putting a pause button on changing, reforming and improving our health service.
Welsh: Wel, mae yna rywbeth yma ynglŷn â deall y cynigion y cyfeiriwyd atynt yn gynharach gan David Rees, a siaradodd am lawdriniaeth thorasig a'r ganolfan trawma mawr. Mae'r rheini'n ymgynghoriadau gwasanaeth iechyd arbenigol sydd angen cael eu cynnal. A fy mhryder bob amser, os ydym yn osgoi mynd i'r afael â phroblemau, yw y byddwn yn caniatáu i ni'n hunain fod mewn sefyllfa lle mae'r ddadl yn fwy anodd, a mwy o frys o ran yr angen i newid. Felly, nid wyf yn credu y byddai'n ddefnyddiol ceisio atal y gwasanaeth iechyd rhag cynnal ymgynghoriadau ar y ffordd y dylid newid a diwygio gwasanaethau. Ond wrth gwrs, mae yna ystod eang o'r gwasanaethau hynny sy'n ymwneud yn briodol â sut y mae iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol yn gweithio gyda'i gilydd. Felly, rwy'n disgwyl i fyrddau iechyd gael perthynas a sgyrsiau priodol gyda phartneriaid gofal cymdeithasol. Er enghraifft, ar yr ymgynghoriad ynglŷn â Phen-y-bont ar Ogwr, sydd ar y gweill ar hyn o bryd, mae yna sgwrs yn sicr, nid yn unig gydag awdurdod lleol Pen-y-bont ar Ogwr, ond mewn gwirionedd gyda phartneriaid yn Abertawe, Castell-nedd Port Talbot, ac wrth gwrs Rhondda Cynon Taf a Merthyr yn ogystal, am effaith bosibl y rheini. Felly, mae yna barodrwydd a chydnabyddiaeth fod angen i feysydd iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol gydweithio'n agosach. Mae byrddau partneriaethau rhanbarthol a'r byrddau gwasanaethau cyhoeddus yn rhan o hynny, a phan fyddwch yn cynnal ymgynghoriad, disgwyliaf y bydd hynny'n wir bryd hynny hefyd. Ond nid wyf yn credu o gwbl fod achos dros gamu'n ôl a rhoi diwedd ar yr hyn sy'n cael ei wneud ar hyn o bryd; mae angen i ni ddysgu a gwella, yn hytrach na gwasgu'r botwm saib ar newid, diwygio a gwella ein gwasanaeth iechyd.