English: Well, it depends on what the tariff is, but the Member's position seems to be that any trade agreement is great as long as the European Union negotiates it and that we are part of it as the EU, but that any other arrangement is automatically bad, without looking at the merits of the size and the balance of the tariffs. [ Interruption. ] The Member says from a sedentary position that he didn't say that, and I'll accept that. But, what we do is up to us. Essentially, the UK Government has set out a tariff schedule to apply. In some of the most sensitive sectors, what it looks to do is have a tariff to give a degree of protection to domestic producers, but one that is below the tariff that is currently set by the European Union. So, that will lead to a balance of the two effects that are identified. Some of the areas where there are high tariffs, such as on clothes, such as on footwear, except at the very high end, we don't produce any in this country, yet we have these huge tariffs to protect a limited amount of production within southern Europe, and we prevent China importing on those tariffs, where we give exemptions to some other countries. If we got rid of those tariffs on clothing and footwear, there would be a very significant reduction in cost, which would be most important for the poorest members of our communities, who spend the highest proportion of income on those goods. If I may just move towards a conclusion, we had £172 billion of exports last year to the EU against £266 billion of imports. Were there to be tariffs on those both ways, and the weighted tariff would actually be higher on what we import than what we export, that would be a very significant amount of import substitution available to the domestic economy. As well as any short-term disruption and the long-term economic analysis that benefits free trade, in the short term, if you have moved to a situation of tariffs where you had none before with an economy where you have a massive trade deficit of £94 billion, the impact on your domestic economy in the near term in terms of demand is likely to have the positive element of the import substitution, which is very rarely discussed in this debate and needs to be set against the costs that others identify. So, to conclude, I would encourage Members to support this motion, and we would like to get a deal if we can. Time is now short, but we should leave on 31 October with or without a deal, and if the EU wants a deal, it should offer at least what it has been prepared to offer Canada in terms of a free trade deal, not one where we have to give up Northern Ireland, or one we're locked into a customs union we can't leave without their permission.
Welsh: Wel, mae'n dibynnu beth yw'r tariff, ond ymddengys mai safbwynt yr Aelod yw bod unrhyw gytundeb masnach yn wych cyn belled â bod yr Undeb Ewropeaidd yn ei negodi a'n bod yn rhan ohono fel yr UE, ond bod unrhyw drefniant arall yn ddrwg yn awtomatig, heb edrych ar rinweddau maint a chydbwysedd y tariffau. [ Torri ar draws. ] Dywed yr Aelod yn ei sedd nad oedd wedi dweud hynny, ac fe dderbyniaf hynny. Ond mater i ni yw'r hyn a wnawn. Yn y bôn, mae Llywodraeth y DU wedi pennu rhestr o dariffau i'w gosod. Yn rhai o'r sectorau mwyaf sensitif, yr hyn y mae'n ceisio'i wneud yw cael tariff i roi rhywfaint o amddiffyniad i gynhyrchwyr domestig, ond un sy'n is na'r tariff a osodir ar hyn o bryd gan yr Undeb Ewropeaidd. Felly, bydd hynny'n arwain at gydbwyso'r ddwy effaith a nodwyd. Mewn rhai o'r meysydd lle ceir tariffau uchel, megis dillad ac esgidiau, heblaw ym mhen uchaf y farchnad, nid ydym yn cynhyrchu dim yn y wlad hon, ac eto mae gennym dariffau anferth i ddiogelu mesur cyfyngedig o gynhyrchiant yn ne Ewrop, ac rydym yn atal Tsieina rhag mewnforio ar y tariffau hynny, lle rydym yn rhoi eithriadau i rai gwledydd eraill. Pe baem yn cael gwared ar y tariffau hynny ar ddillad ac esgidiau, byddai gostyngiad sylweddol iawn yn y gost, a byddai hynny'n fwyaf pwysig i'r rhai tlotaf yn ein cymunedau, sy'n gwario'r gyfran uchaf o incwm ar y nwyddau hynny. Os caf dynnu tua'r terfyn, cawsom werth £172 biliwn o allforion y llynedd i'r UE yn erbyn £266 biliwn o fewnforion. Pe bai tariffau'n cael eu gosod ar y rheini y ddwy ffordd, a'r tariff wedi'i bwysoli yn uwch mewn gwirionedd ar yr hyn a fewnforiwn na'r hyn a allforiwn, byddai hwnnw'n swm sylweddol iawn o gynhyrchiant yn lle mewnforio a fyddai ar gael i'r economi ddomestig. Yn ogystal ag unrhyw amharu tymor byr a'r dadansoddiad economaidd hirdymor sydd o fudd i fasnach rydd, yn y tymor byr, os ydych wedi symud i sefyllfa o dariffau lle nad oedd gennych ddim o'r blaen gydag economi lle mae gennych ddiffyg masnach enfawr o £94 biliwn, mae'r effaith ar eich economi ddomestig yn y tymor agos o ran galw yn debygol o fod ag elfen gadarnhaol cynhyrchu yn lle mewnforio, nad yw prin yn cael ei drafod yn y ddadl hon ac mae angen ei osod yn erbyn y costau y mae eraill yn eu nodi. Felly, i gloi, hoffwn annog yr Aelodau i gefnogi'r cynnig hwn, a byddem yn hoffi cael cytundeb os gallwn. Mae amser yn brin, ond dylem adael ar 31 Hydref gyda neu heb gytundeb, ac os yw'r UE am gael cytundeb, dylai gynnig o leiaf yr hyn y bu'n barod i'w gynnig i Ganada o ran cytundeb masnach rydd, nid un lle mae'n rhaid inni ildio Gogledd Iwerddon, neu un lle rydym yn cael ein cloi i mewn i undeb tollau na allwn ei adael heb eu caniatâd hwy.