English: And those are part of the challenges that I've put to the health board and within the service. And it is the case that people do talk to each other across the service. Emergency department consultants talk to each other, and lead nurses talk to each other about practice within their departments. So, there is a genuine attempt to share learning. But you're right - the Heath has a significantly lower proportion and number of people who wait more than 12 hours to be seen, treated and discharged. That's part of the challenge that I think has been recognised in my response to Dai Lloyd, actually, about recognising that it's a whole-system problem within the whole-hospital system, as well as outside it. And if you can't deal with some of the challenges about being able to move people, not just into an emergency department, but through that department, and either out of the hospital altogether, or into the hospital, if that's the appropriate place for them, that's part of the reason why some people wait too long. And I recognise there are too many people waiting too long. And I've never tried to soft-soap that, or cover over that. It's really about: will we see a determined increase in the ability to deliver within this health board, and in others, to make sure that fewer people wait 12 hours to be seen, treated and discharged, and how we build on the successful trial of 111? It's been a really successful innovation, and, again, compared to what happened in England, where they had real challenges in 111 actually delivering a greater number of people to be referred into emergency departments, that hasn't happened. And there's good evidence that 111 is actually taking people away from that department by providing them with alternative pathways for care. So, there are positives within the whole system, but no lack of understanding from this Government, or the health service, that there are still continued challenges and further improvements that all of us expect to see take place.
Welsh: Ac mae'r rheini'n rhan o'r heriau a gyflwynais i'r bwrdd iechyd ac o fewn y gwasanaeth. Ac mae'n wir fod pobl yn siarad â'i gilydd ar draws y gwasanaeth. Mae meddygon ymgynghorol adrannau brys yn siarad â'i gilydd, ac mae nyrsys arwain yn siarad â'i gilydd ynglŷn â'r ymarfer yn eu hadrannau. Felly, ceir ymgais wirioneddol i rannu dysgu. Ond rydych yn gywir - mae gan ysbyty'r Mynydd Bychan gyfran sylweddol is o bobl yn aros mwy na 12 awr i gael eu gweld, eu trin a'u rhyddhau. Dyna ran o'r her y credaf fy mod wedi'i chydnabod yn fy ymateb i Dai Lloyd, mewn gwirionedd, ynglŷn â chydnabod ei bod yn broblem system gyfan o fewn y system ysbyty cyfan, yn ogystal â thu allan iddo. Ac os nad ydych yn gallu mynd i'r afael â rhai o'r heriau o ran gallu symud pobl, nid yn unig i adran achosion brys, ond drwy'rr adran honno, a naill ai allan o'r ysbyty yn gyfan gwbl, neu i mewn i'r ysbyty, os mai dyna'r lle priodol ar eu cyfer, dyna ran o'r rheswm pam y mae rhai pobl yn aros yn rhy hir. Ac rwy'n cydnabod bod gormod o bobl yn aros yn rhy hir. Ac nid wyf erioed wedi ceisio bychanu hynny, neu gelu hynny. Mae'n ymwneud mewn gwirionedd â hyn: a fyddwn yn gweld cynnydd pendant yn y gallu i gyflawni yn y bwrdd iechyd hwn, ac mewn byrddau iechyd eraill, er mwyn sicrhau bod llai o bobl yn aros 12 awr i gael eu gweld, eu trin a'u rhyddhau, a sut yr adeiladwn ar dreial llwyddiannus 111? Mae wedi bod yn ddatblygiad llwyddiannus iawn, ac unwaith eto, o'i gymharu â'r hyn a ddigwyddodd yn Lloegr, lle y cawsant heriau gwirioneddol gyda 111 yn arwain at nifer fwy o bobl yn cael eu hatgyfeirio at adrannau achosion brys, nid yw hynny wedi digwydd. A cheir tystiolaeth dda fod 111 mewn gwirionedd yn cyfeirio pobl i ffwrdd o'r adran honno drwy ddarparu llwybrau gofal amgen ar eu cyfer. Felly, mae yna bethau cadarnhaol o fewn y system gyfan, ac mae'r Llywodraeth hon, neu'r gwasanaeth iechyd, yn deall bod heriau parhaus o hyd a gwelliannau pellach y mae pob un ohonom yn disgwyl eu gweld yn digwydd.