English: when, to all intents and purposes, you have given up that control to decisions taken, first of all, by the Government in Westminster, and, secondly, which are led by the Westminster Government, and not through the process that we've been discussing here and that is set out in the climate change committee's report - of collaboration, as members of equal status, between the two Governments. So, may I ask you some questions about how exactly this is going to work in practice? You have set out your five principles in this statement and in the statement that you made in March also. Have you discussed those five principles with George Eustice and Michael Gove? Have you been given assurances by them that you will be able to operate on the basis of these principles here in Wales, given that the legislative precedent includes either an agriculture Bill in Westminster or a specifically Welsh Bill here? As we now know, the Westminster Government has the upper hand in areas as varied as GMOs, organic farming, farm payments, public procurement - which is so important for the future of food in Wales - and also food labelling. What assurances have you been given by the Westminster Government that they will not insist on their approaches to these problems, rather than listening to the consultation on the bottom-up approach that you have described to us here today? In talking of the funds that will emerge from Brexit, I note - and it's already been mentioned - that you have only given a pledge until the end of the 2019 financial year. Now, the Treasury has made it clear that the total will still be available until 2022. When the climate change and rural affairs committee visited London last week, we met face to face with Michael Gove and spent an hour with George Eustice, and of course we discussed with them the need to secure this funding. It was clear to me that they would maintain the funding up until 2022, but after that, it goes into the comprehensive spending review. So, the nature of it will change after that, but until then, Wales will continue to receive the same funds. So, why can't you pledge today that that will be allocated in full, at least until the next Assembly elections, rather than on a year-by-year basis, as you have set out this afternoon? In discussing that funding, it is clear that you want to retain some sort of sense of pillar 1 and pillar 2: the difference between public good and economic payments. But, at the same time, you say in your statement that the current single farm payment isn't an effective way of providing that economic support. Now, the climate change and rural affairs committee report has made a recommendation - which you should respond to, at least, this afternoon - that there shouldn't be a pillar 1 and pillar 2 approach, but that the funding source should be merged until you measure the public good and the economic benefits, and working towards something of a higher value. You just mentioned a project in Pennal and other projects in Wales. So, why haven't you considered that recommendation? Why do you want to maintain this rather artificial distinction between pillar 1 and pillar 2 in this new approach to funding in Wales? So, although we welcome the fact that you are discussing these issues publicly in Wales, and that there will be an opportunity now for farmers and the unions and everyone who is interested to participate in this conversation, Plaid Cymru remains of the view that we have seen powers lost over the past fortnight, and that some of the things that you are talking about in this statement will be almost impossible to deliver because it won't be the Westminster Government's aspiration to see them brought about. And it's not just Plaid Cymru that is saying that. I now see today that former MPs Gwynoro Jones and Elystan Morgan have joined with us in their criticism of the inter-governmental agreement reached. There are some warm words in today's statement, but I fear that it will be empty rhetoric at the end of the day.
Welsh: pan, i bob pwrpas, rŷch chi wedi ildio'r rheolaeth yna i benderfyniadau sy'n cael eu cymryd, yn gyntaf, gan y Llywodraeth yn San Steffan, ac, yn ail, yn cael eu harwain gan Lywodraeth San Steffan, ac nid drwy'r broses rŷm ni wedi bod yn ei thrafod fan hyn ac sydd wedi cael ei gosod allan yn adroddiad y Pwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, Amgylchedd a Materion Gwledig - o gydweithio fel cyd-Aelodau o'r un statws fel Llywodraethau yn y wlad yma. Felly, a gaf i ofyn cwestiynau i chi ar sut yn union y mae hyn nawr yn mynd i weithio yn ymarferol? Rŷch chi wedi gosod allan eich pum egwyddor yn yr adroddiad yma ac yn yr adroddiad y gwnaethoch chi ym mis Mawrth yn ogystal. A ydych chi wedi trafod y pum egwyddor yma gyda George Eustice, gyda Michael Gove? A ydych chi wedi cael sicrhad ganddyn nhw y bydd modd gweithredu ar sail yr egwyddorion hyn yma yng Nghymru, o ystyried bod y cynsail deddfwriaethol rŷch chi'n ei ystyried yn cynnwys naill ai Bil amaeth yn San Steffan neu Fil amaeth penodol yn fan hyn? Gan ein bod ni, bellach, yn gwybod bod Llywodraeth San Steffan â'r llaw uchaf ym meysydd mor amrywiol â GMOs, ffermio organig, taliadau fferm a chaffael cyhoeddus - sydd mor bwysig ar gyfer dyfodol bwyd yng Nghymru - a hefyd labelu bwyd o Gymru, pa sicrwydd ydych chi wedi'i dderbyn gan Lywodraeth San Steffan na fyddan nhw'n mynnu eu dulliau nhw o fynd i'r afael â'r problemau hyn, yn hytrach na gwrando ar yr ymgynghoriad a'r ffordd gwaelod i fyny rydych chi wedi'i disgrifio wrthym ni heddiw? Wrth sôn am yr arian sydd yn dod yn sgil gadael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd, rwy'n sylwi - ac mae wedi cael ei grybwyll eisoes, rwy'n meddwl - eich bod chi dim ond wedi rhoi addewid tan ddiwedd y flwyddyn ariannol 2019. Wrth gwrs, mae'r Trysorlys wedi'i wneud yn glir y bydd y cyfanswm yn dal ar gael tan 2022. Pan fuodd y Pwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, Amgylchedd a Materion Gwledig i fyny yn Llundain yr wythnos diwethaf, fe wnaethom ni gwrdd wyneb yn wyneb gyda Michael Gove a threulio awr gyda George Eustice, yn trafod gyda nhw'r angen i sicrhau'r arian yma. Roedd hi'n ddigon clir i fi y byddan nhw'n cadw'r arian hyd at 2022, ond, wrth gwrs, ar ôl hynny, mae'n mynd i mewn i'r adolygiad cynhwysfawr gwariant - y comprehensive spending review. Felly, mae natur y peth yn newid ar ôl hynny. Ond, tan hynny, bydd Cymru yn dal i dderbyn yr un swm, felly pam nad ŷch chi'n gallu addo heddiw y bydd hynny yn cael ei glustnodi yn llwyr tan o leiaf yr etholiad Cynulliad nesaf, yn hytrach na fesul blwyddyn, fel rŷch chi wedi ei roi mewn dogn y prynhawn yma? Wrth drafod yr arian yna, mae'n amlwg eich bod chi am gadw rhyw fath o siâp ar biler 1 a philer 2, yn y datganiad sydd gennych chi: y gwahaniaeth rhwng y daioni cyhoeddus a'r taliadau economaidd. Ond, ar yr un pryd, rŷch chi'n dweud yn eich datganiad nad yw'r taliad fferm sengl bresennol yn ffordd dda o roi'r gefnogaeth economaidd yna. Nawr, mae adroddiad y Pwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, Amgylchedd a Materion Gwledig wedi gwneud un argymhelliad - y dylech chi o leiaf ymateb iddo fe, rwy'n gobeithio, y prynhawn yma - na ddylid cael un piler a dau biler, ond yn hytrach uno'r ffrwd gyllidol nes eich bod chi, fesul cam yn y ffrwd yna, yn mesur y daioni cyhoeddus, yn mesur y gwerth economaidd, ymlaen at, efallai, rhywbeth o werth uwch. Rŷch chi newydd sôn am brosiect ym Mhennal a phrosiectau eraill sydd i gael yng Nghymru; pam nad ŷch chi ddim wedi ystyried yr argymhellion hynny? Pam ydych chi am gadw'r gwahaniaeth braidd yn artiffisial yma rhwng piler 1 a philer 2 yn y ffordd newydd o fynd o gwmpas cyllido yng Nghymru? Felly, er ein bod ni'n croesawu'r ffaith eich bod chi'n trafod y materion hyn yn gyhoeddus yng Nghymru, a bod cyfle, nawr, i'r ffermwyr a'r undebau a phawb sydd â diddordeb mewn bod yn rhan o'r sgwrs yma, mae Plaid Cymru yn dal o'r farn ein bod ni wedi colli grym yn ystod y pythefnos diwethaf, a bod rhai o'r pethau rydych chi'n sôn amdanyn nhw yn y datganiad yma yn mynd i fod bron yn amhosib i'w cyrraedd, oherwydd na fydd dymuniad gan Lywodraeth San Steffan i'w gweld nhw'n cael eu gwirioneddu. Nid, bellach, Plaid Cymru yw'r unig rai sy'n dweud hynny. Rydw i'n gweld heddiw bod y cyn-Aelodau Seneddol Gwynoro Jones ac Elystan Morgan wedi ymuno gyda ni yn eu beirniadaeth nhw o'r cytundeb rhynglywodraethol yma. Mae geiriau teg yn y datganiad heddiw, ond rydw i'n ofni mai geiriau gau y byddan nhw ar ddiwedd y dydd.