techiaith/cofnodycynulliad_en-cy huggingface dataset:
English: Welcome, everyone, to the Plenary session. Before we begin, I want to set out a few points. This meeting will be held in a hybrid format, with some Members in the Senedd Chamber and others joining by video-conference. All Members participating in proceedings of the Senedd, wherever they may be, will be treated equally. A Plenary meeting held using video-conference, in accordance with the Standing Orders of the Welsh Parliament, constitutes Senedd proceedings for the purposes of the Government of Wales Act 2006. Some of the provisions of Standing Order 34 will apply for today's Plenary meeting. These are noted on the agenda.
Welsh: Croeso, bawb, i'r Cyfarfod Llawn. Cyn i ni ddechrau, hoffwn nodi ychydig o bwyntiau. Cynhelir y cyfarfod hwn ar ffurf hybrid, gyda rhai Aelodau yn Siambr y Senedd ac eraill yn ymuno drwy gyswllt fideo. Bydd yr holl Aelodau sy'n cymryd rhan yn nhrafodion y Senedd, ble bynnag y bônt, yn cael eu trin yn gyfartal. Mae Cyfarfod Llawn a gynhelir drwy gynhadledd fideo, yn unol â Rheolau Sefydlog Senedd Cymru, yn gyfystyr â thrafodion y Senedd at ddibenion Deddf Llywodraeth Cymru 2006. Bydd rhai o ddarpariaethau Rheol Sefydlog 34 yn gymwys ar gyfer y Cyfarfod Llawn heddiw. Nodir y rhain ar yr agenda.
English: The first item this afternoon is questions to the Minister for Climate Change, and the first question is from Samuel Kurtz.
Welsh: Yr eitem gyntaf y prynhawn yma yw cwestiynau i'r Gweinidog Newid Hinsawdd, ac mae'r cwestiwn gyntaf gan Samuel Kurtz.
English: Investment, legislative drivers and a robust regulatory framework has led to 42 per cent of our inland waters achieving good ecological status. We are committed to improving water quality but we cannot do this alone. We need to take an integrated catchment approach, focusing on multisector co-operation and nature-based solutions.
Welsh: Mae buddsoddiad, sbardunau deddfwriaethol a fframwaith rheoleiddio cadarn wedi arwain at 42 y cant o'n dyfroedd mewndirol yn cyflawni statws ecolegol da. Rydym wedi ymrwymo i wella ansawdd dŵr ond ni allwn wneud hyn ar ein pen ein hunain. Mae angen inni ddefnyddio dull dalgylch integredig, gan ganolbwyntio ar gydweithredu amlsectoraidd ac atebion ar sail natur.
English: Diolch yn fawr, Weinidog, and good afternoon. I'm sure you'll join me in welcoming the recent improvements that were adopted in the UK Environment Bill to improve inland water quality in England, in particular the legal duty that is placed on water companies to progressively reduce the impact of permitted and non-permitted discharges from combined sewage overflows, known more commonly as CSOs. Had I been fortunate enough to have been drawn in the Member's legislative proposal ballot, I was intending to bring forward an inland waterways Bill - a draft piece of legislation that strives for cleaner rivers, seas and lakes here in Wales. With that in mind, what action is the Welsh Government taking to place a duty on water companies to take all reasonable steps to ensure that sewage is not being discharged into our streams and rivers and to also increase the number of Welsh inland bathing waters classified as 'good' or 'excellent'?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Weinidog, a phrynhawn da. Rwy'n siŵr y gwnewch chi ymuno â mi i groesawu'r gwelliannau diweddar a fabwysiadwyd ym Mil Amgylchedd y DU i wella ansawdd dŵr mewndirol yn Lloegr, yn enwedig y ddyletswydd gyfreithiol a osodir ar gwmnïau dŵr i leihau'n gynyddol effaith gollyngiadau a ganiateir ac nas caniateir o orlifoedd carthffosiaeth cyfunol, a elwir hefyd yn CSOs. Pe bawn i wedi bod yn ddigon ffodus i gael fy newis ym mhleidlais cynnig deddfwriaethol yr Aelodau, roeddwn yn bwriadu cyflwyno Bil dyfrffyrdd mewndirol - deddfwriaeth ddrafft sy'n ymdrechu i gael afonydd, moroedd a llynnoedd glanach yma yng Nghymru. Gyda hynny mewn golwg, pa gamau y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn eu cymryd i osod dyletswydd ar gwmnïau dŵr i gymryd pob cam rhesymol i sicrhau nad yw carthffosiaeth yn cael ei gollwng i'n nentydd a'n hafonydd ac i gynyddu nifer y dyfroedd ymdrochi mewndirol yng Nghymru sy'n cyflawni statws 'da' neu 'ragorol'?
English: Well, I think there are a couple of misconceptions there. The first is confusing England for Wales, which is a very common problem on the benches opposite. The UK Government has legislated to set targets for water companies in England to reduce sewage discharges and water quality. The assumption and the widespread perception on the opposite benches that that's the main cause of poor water quality in Wales is just not borne out by the evidence. We've done a series of pieces of work, including the phosphates compliance assessments, which I notice the Member opposed and, indeed, accused Plaid Cymru of betraying Welsh farmers by dropping their opposition to them. So, his sudden interest in inland water quality is quite an interesting one. I think he would be better off having a seriously good look at what we are doing to improve the entire catchment area water quality to make sure that we understand the causes of the pollution and that we are able to stop them at source rather than making the kind of generalised remarks that are very unhelpful.
Welsh: Wel, credaf fod un neu ddau o gamdybiaethau yn y fan honno. Y gyntaf yw drysu Lloegr a Chymru, sy'n broblem gyffredin iawn ar y meinciau gyferbyn. Mae Llywodraeth y DU wedi deddfu i osod targedau i gwmnïau dŵr yn Lloegr leihau gollyngiadau carthffosiaeth ac ansawdd dŵr. Nid yw'r dystiolaeth yn cynnal y rhagdybiaeth a'r canfyddiad cyffredin ar y meinciau gyferbyn mai dyna yw prif achos ansawdd dŵr gwael yng Nghymru. Rydym wedi gwneud cyfres o ddarnau o waith, gan gynnwys yr asesiadau o gydymffurfiaeth â thargedau ffosffadau, y sylwaf fod yr Aelod wedi'i wrthwynebu, ac yn wir, fe gyhuddodd Blaid Cymru o fradychu ffermwyr Cymru drwy roi'r gorau i'w gwrthwynebiad iddynt. Felly, mae ei ddiddordeb sydyn mewn ansawdd dŵr mewndirol yn eithaf diddorol. Credaf y byddai'n well iddo pe bai'n edrych o ddifrif ar yr hyn a wnawn i wella ansawdd dŵr y dalgylch cyfan i sicrhau ein bod yn deall achosion y llygredd a'n bod yn gallu eu hatal yn y ffynhonnell yn hytrach na gwneud sylwadau cyffredinol nad ydynt o unrhyw gymorth.
English: One of the major problems regarding inland water quality is discharge into rivers, which then goes into lakes. A serious concern raised with me by my constituents is Welsh water discharge into the River Tawe at the Trebanos treatment works in the Neath constituency, which affects water in my constituency, because the water from Trebanos comes down until it hits the sea in your constituency, Minister. What discussions has the Minister had with Welsh water regarding discharge into rivers?
Welsh: Un o'r problemau mawr mewn perthynas ag ansawdd dŵr mewndirol yw gollyngiadau i afonydd, sydd wedyn yn mynd i mewn i lynnoedd. Pryder difrifol a godwyd gyda mi gan fy etholwyr yw gollyngiadau Dŵr Cymru i mewn i afon Tawe yng ngwaith trin dŵr gwastraff Trebannws yn etholaeth Castell-nedd, sy'n effeithio ar ddŵr yn fy etholaeth innau, gan fod y dŵr o Drebannws yn llifo i lawr ac i mewn i'r môr yn eich etholaeth chi, Weinidog. Pa drafodaethau y mae'r Gweinidog wedi'u cael gyda Dŵr Cymru ynghylch gollyngiadau i afonydd?
English: 'Future Wales' identifies 10 pre-assessed areas for wind energy developments of national significance. There are currently 10 developments of national significance in progress within or partly within the pre-assessed areas. Eight are at the pre-application stage, one is at the notification stage, and one is at the report stage.
Welsh: Mae 'Cymru'r Dyfodol' yn nodi 10 ardal sydd wedi'u rhag-asesu ar gyfer datblygiadau ynni gwynt o arwyddocâd cenedlaethol. Ar hyn o bryd, mae 10 datblygiad o arwyddocâd cenedlaethol ar y gweill o fewn neu'n rhannol o fewn yr ardaloedd a rag-aseswyd. Mae wyth ar y cam cyn ymgeisio, mae un ar y cam hysbysu, ac mae un ar y cam adrodd.
English: Thank you, Minister. A RenewableUK Cymru analysis report has recently highlighted that, when spatial limitations are applied, such as proximity to housing, Ministry of Defence training areas, main river corridors, and even proximity to other windfarm developments, which would be applied during any planning application process, then the actual usable land that's available for windfarm developments within these pre-assessed areas drastically decreases to only 5 per cent, reducing the capacity to generate electricity from wind to only 20 per cent of what is predicted. This is, in effect, a major shortcoming of your renewable generation strategy, and, given that the Welsh Government's target is to generate 70 per cent renewable energy by 2030, it will no doubt seriously hinder the ability of that target to be met. With this in mind, can the Minister confirm whether or not she knows of these limitations, and whether or not the pre-assessed areas will need to be re-evaluated as a result? Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch, Weinidog. Yn ddiweddar, mae adroddiad dadansoddi gan RenewableUK Cymru wedi nodi, pan fo cyfyngiadau gofodol yn cael eu cymhwyso, megis agosrwydd at dai, ardaloedd hyfforddi'r Weinyddiaeth Amddiffyn, prif goridorau afonydd, a hyd yn oed agosrwydd at ddatblygiadau ffermydd gwynt eraill, a fyddai'n cael eu cymhwyso yn ystod unrhyw broses cais cynllunio, mae'r tir y gellir ei ddefnyddio sydd ar gael ar gyfer datblygiadau ffermydd gwynt yn yr ardaloedd hyn a rag-aseswyd yn gostwng yn sylweddol i 5 y cant yn unig, gan leihau'r capasiti i gynhyrchu trydan o wynt i 20 y cant yn unig o'r hyn a ragwelir. Mae hyn, i bob pwrpas, yn ddiffyg mawr yn eich strategaeth gynhyrchu ynni adnewyddadwy, ac o gofio mai targed Llywodraeth Cymru yw cynhyrchu 70 y cant o ynni adnewyddadwy erbyn 2030, nid oes amheuaeth y bydd yn llesteirio'r gallu i gyrraedd y targed hwnnw. Gyda hyn mewn golwg, a all y Gweinidog gadarnhau a yw'n gwybod am y cyfyngiadau hyn ai peidio, ac a fydd angen ailwerthuso'r ardaloedd a rag-aseswyd o ganlyniad? Diolch.
English: Well, I set out in my initial response to you that we have 10 developments of national significance in progress, which is very good news, considering the length of time that 'Future Wales' has been in place. So, I appreciate the point you're making, but it's not borne out by the number of applications we currently have inside the system. I'd just like to also point out that the pre-assessed areas are not necessarily the only place you can build a windfarm or any other renewable in Wales; there are just slightly different planning assumptions made in those areas. So, there's nothing at all to stop anyone bringing forward a solution elsewhere in Wales, but they will of course have to go through the process.
Welsh: Wel, nodais yn fy ymateb cychwynnol i chi fod gennym 10 datblygiad o arwyddocâd cenedlaethol ar y gweill, sy'n newyddion da iawn, o ystyried pa mor hir y mae 'Cymru'r Dyfodol' wedi bod ar waith. Felly, rwy'n deall y pwynt a wnewch, ond nid yw'n cael ei adlewyrchu yn nifer y ceisiadau sydd gennym yn y system ar hyn o bryd. Hoffwn nodi hefyd nad yr ardaloedd a rag-aseswyd yw'r unig le o reidrwydd y gallwch adeiladu fferm wynt, neu unrhyw fath arall o ynni adnewyddadwy yng Nghymru; mae rhagdybiaethau cynllunio ychydig yn wahanol yn yr ardaloedd hynny, dyna'i gyd. Felly, nid oes unrhyw beth i atal unrhyw un rhag cyflwyno ateb mewn man arall yng Nghymru, ond wrth gwrs, bydd yn rhaid iddynt fynd drwy'r broses.
English: Questions now from the party spokespeople. The Conservative spokesperson first, Janet Finch-Saunders.
Welsh: Cwestiynau nawr gan lefarwyr y pleidiau. Llefarydd y Ceidwadwyr yn gyntaf, Janet Finch-Saunders.
English: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. Good afternoon, Minister. Now, in a recent virtual round-table I held with Propertymark, it was predicted that there's going to be a huge increase in people looking for rental properties. And I would like to refer Members and members of the public to my own register of interests. This is causing immense pressure for front-line staff in the sales and letting sector, because there are very few properties to rent or buy. Holmans recommend that up to 12,000 homes a year need to be built in Wales by 2031, yet the figures for dwellings completed in 2018-19 was 30.6 per cent less than at the start of devolution. Now, this is a downward decline. Yet, in your letter to the leaders and chief executives, to local authorities, on 17 November, you stated, 'It appears that we are already building the number of market homes we need'. So, how can this be the case, when only 5,138 new homes were started in 2019? And with this in mind, Minister, do you accept that the appropriate way to respond to the property crisis in Wales would be through empowering existing businesses to build new market homes, rather than wasting time and resources on creating your own national construction company?
Welsh: Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Prynhawn da, Weinidog. Nawr, mewn cyfarfod bord gron rhithwir diweddar a gynhaliais gyda Propertymark, rhagwelwyd cynnydd enfawr yn nifer y bobl a fydd yn chwilio am eiddo rhent. A hoffwn gyfeirio'r Aelodau ac aelodau'r cyhoedd at fy nghofrestr buddiannau fy hun. Mae hyn yn achosi pwysau aruthrol ar staff rheng flaen yn y sector gwerthu a gosod, gan mai ychydig iawn o eiddo sydd ar gael i'w rentu neu brynu. Mae Holmans yn argymell bod angen adeiladu hyd at 12,000 o gartrefi y flwyddyn yng Nghymru erbyn 2031, ond roedd y ffigurau ar gyfer anheddau a gwblhawyd yn 2018-19 30.6 y cant yn is nag ar ddechrau datganoli. Nawr, mae hyn yn ddirywiad. Fodd bynnag, yn eich llythyr at yr arweinwyr a'r prif weithredwyr, at awdurdodau lleol, ar 17 Tachwedd, fe ddywedoch chi, 'Ymddengys ein bod eisoes yn adeiladu'r nifer o gartrefi ar gyfer y farchnad sydd eu hangen arnom'. Felly, sut y gall hyn fod yn wir, er mai 5,138 yn unig o gartrefi newydd a gychwynnwyd yn 2019? A chyda hyn mewn golwg, Weinidog, a ydych yn derbyn mai'r ffordd briodol o ymateb i'r argyfwng eiddo yng Nghymru fyddai drwy rymuso busnesau presennol i adeiladu cartrefi newydd ar gyfer y farchnad, yn hytrach na gwastraffu amser ac adnoddau ar greu eich cwmni adeiladu cenedlaethol eich hun?
English: Well, the juxtaposition of the two things at the end is quite startling, so I'll deal with that first. The idea that a national construction company would somehow get in the way of building new homes is quite extraordinary. We have yet, as part of the co-operation agreement, to explore with our Plaid Cymru partners exactly how we're going to use the construction company. But we have had a large number of conversations with our registered social landlords and our councils about the shortage of skilled labour, the difficulty of getting good apprentices in place, and the paucity of very good advice about bringing forward developments in good time. So, we will have a very productive conversation with Plaid Cymru about how to fill in gaps where there has been market failure, and other issues where we can bring forward housing in an appropriate way. The evidence is really interesting, actually, from the Labour Government after the second world war, elected by the returning troops, that an enormous increase in social house building actually stimulated the private market and didn't depress it in any way. The graphs are very interesting, and we are absolutely certain that we will be doing the same thing with our ambitious 20,000 social homes programme.
Welsh: Wel, mae cyfosodiad y ddau beth hynny ar y diwedd yn eithaf syfrdanol, felly rwyf am ymdrin â hynny yn gyntaf. Mae'r syniad y byddai cwmni adeiladu cenedlaethol rywsut yn atal y gwaith o adeiladu cartrefi newydd yn eithaf rhyfeddol. Nid ydym wedi archwilio eto, fel rhan o'r cytundeb cydweithio gyda'n partneriaid ym Mhlaid Cymru, sut yn union y byddwn yn defnyddio'r cwmni adeiladu. Ond rydym wedi cael nifer fawr o sgyrsiau gyda'n landlordiaid cymdeithasol cofrestredig a'n cynghorau ynglŷn â phrinder llafur medrus, anhawster i gael prentisiaid da, a phrinder cyngor da iawn ynghylch cyflwyno datblygiadau mewn da bryd. Felly, byddwn yn cael sgwrs gynhyrchiol iawn gyda Phlaid Cymru ynglŷn â sut i lenwi bylchau lle bu methiant yn y farchnad, a materion eraill lle gallwn wneud cynnydd ym maes tai mewn ffordd briodol. Mae'r dystiolaeth yn ddiddorol iawn, a dweud y gwir, gan y Llywodraeth Lafur ar ôl yr ail ryfel byd, a etholwyd gan y milwyr a ddaeth yn eu holau, fod y cynnydd aruthrol mewn adeiladu tai cymdeithasol wedi ysgogi'r farchnad breifat, yn hytrach nag amharu arni mewn unrhyw ffordd. Mae'r graffiau'n ddiddorol iawn, ac rydym yn hollol sicr y byddwn yn gwneud yr un peth gyda'n rhaglen uchelgeisiol ar gyfer 20,000 o gartrefi cymdeithasol.
English: Thank you. Minister, on the one hand, you see yourself capable of going into competition with some of our finest builders using taxpayers' money, but, on the other hand, you are actually holding back on the number of homes that we are able to build due to your own or NRW's phosphate guidance. Attendees at the phosphate stakeholders group that I chair made clear that NRW are essentially blocking as many as 10,000 new homes across Wales, including 1,700 of those affordable homes. The cabinet member for planning in Pembrokeshire County Council has reported that the number of applications refused due to NRW guidance will rise sharply in the next few months. Last month, you told this Senedd, and I quote, 'I've got absolutely no problem with NRW's' - [ Interruption. ] I'm talking to the Minister, not the Deputy. - 'with NRW's guidance on the subject.' So, will you now retract that statement, and block, or unblock the block, unlock the block - [ Laughter. ] - of thousands of new homes by authorising exceptions to this guidance, and empower planning authorities to accept phosphate stripping technology in waste water treatment assets as reasonable solutions?
Welsh: Diolch. Weinidog, ar y naill law, rydych yn credu y gallwch gystadlu gyda rhai o'n hadeiladwyr gorau gan ddefnyddio arian trethdalwyr, ond ar y llaw arall, rydych yn gwrthod dweud faint o gartrefi y mae modd i ni eu hadeiladu o ganlyniad i'ch canllawiau eich hun, neu CNC, ar ffosffadau. Nododd mynychwyr y grŵp rhanddeiliaid ar ffosffadau rwy'n ei gadeirio fod CNC, i bob pwrpas, yn rhwystro cymaint â 10,000 o gartrefi newydd ledled Cymru, gan gynnwys 1,700 o'r cartrefi fforddiadwy hynny. Mae'r aelod o'r cabinet ar gyfer cynllunio yng Nghyngor Sir Penfro wedi nodi y bydd nifer y ceisiadau a wrthodir oherwydd canllawiau CNC yn codi'n sylweddol dros yr ychydig fisoedd nesaf. Y mis diwethaf, fe ddywedoch chi wrth y Senedd hon, ac rwy'n dyfynnu, 'Does gen i ddim problem o gwbl gyda chanllawiau CNC - ' [ Torri ar draws.] Rwy'n siarad â'r Gweinidog, nid y Dirprwy. - 'gyda chanllawiau CNC ar y pwnc.' Felly, a wnewch chi dynnu'r datganiad hwnnw yn ôl, a rhwystro, neu ddadflocio'r rhwystr, datgloi'r rhwystr - [ Chwerthin.] - rhag codi miloedd o gartrefi newydd, drwy awdurdodi eithriadau i'r canllaw hwn, a galluogi awdurdodau cynllunio i dderbyn technoleg tynnu ffosffad mewn asedau trin dŵr gwastraff fel atebion rhesymol?
English: Well, Janet, I just don't know where to start. First of all, you started with an assessment of the national construction company, which clearly indicated you weren't listening to the answer I had just given you. Quite clearly, I did not say anything about setting up in competition with any of our SME builders, who we have an extremely good relationship with, and who I have a consultative forum with, which I attended extremely recently to discuss it with them. So, let me just put that one to bed. There is absolutely no suggestion of any sort that any public company will be set up as a competitor in the construction market for our SMEs. So, I think you should have listened to that, and be very assured that that's not the case. What I did say very vehemently was that there are a number of market failures, gaps in skills, and things that have been brought to our attention by both council and RSL house builders and by the SME building forum, where it is profitable to have a conversation about a national construction company filling in the gaps. It's a conversation we have yet to have with Plaid Cymru, following the co-operation agreement, and I'll be sure, Deputy Presiding Officer, to bring it forward to the Senedd when we are able to bring the Senedd up to speed on that. On the other point, Janet Finch-Saunders has often said that she is in favour of the climate emergency and the solutions that come forward to it, and yet she blocks at every turn every single solution put forward. I will just leave the Welsh public to reach their own conclusions about her sincerity on this point.
Welsh: Wel, Janet, nid wyf yn gwybod ble i ddechrau. Yn gyntaf, fe ddechreuoch chi gydag asesiad o'r cwmni adeiladu cenedlaethol, sy'n dangos yn glir nad oeddech yn gwrando ar yr ateb roeddwn newydd ei roi i chi. Yn sicr, ni ddywedais unrhyw beth am sefydlu cwmni i gystadlu ag unrhyw un o'n hadeiladwyr bach a chanolig y mae gennym berthynas dda iawn â hwy, ac y mae gennyf fforwm ymgynghorol gyda hwy, fforwm a fynychais yn ddiweddar iawn i drafod y peth gyda hwy. Felly, dyna ateb hynny. Nid oes unrhyw awgrym o unrhyw fath y bydd unrhyw gwmni cyhoeddus yn cael ei sefydlu i gystadlu â'n busnesau bach a chanolig yn y farchnad adeiladu. Felly, credaf y dylech fod wedi gwrando ar hynny, a chael rhywfaint o sicrwydd nad yw hynny'n wir. Yr hyn a ddywedais yn gadarn iawn oedd bod nifer o fethiannau yn y farchnad, bylchau sgiliau, a phethau sydd wedi'u dwyn i'n sylw gan adeiladwyr tai cyngor a thai landlordiaid cymdeithasol cofrestredig a chan y fforwm cwmnïau adeiladu bach a chanolig, lle mae'n fuddiol cael sgwrs am gwmni adeiladu cenedlaethol i lenwi'r bylchau. Mae'n sgwrs nad ydym wedi'i chael eto gyda Phlaid Cymru, yn dilyn y cytundeb cydweithio, a byddaf yn siŵr, Ddirprwy Lywydd, o gyflwyno'r mater i'r Senedd pan fyddwn yn gallu rhoi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf i'r Senedd. Ar y pwynt arall, mae Janet Finch-Saunders wedi dweud yn aml ei bod o blaid datgan argyfwng hinsawdd a'r atebion a gyflwynir i fynd i'r afael ag ef, ond mae'n atal pob ateb a gyflwynir ar bob cyfle. Rwyf am adael i'r cyhoedd yng Nghymru ddod i'w casgliadau eu hunain am ei diffuantrwydd ar y pwynt hwn.