English: I thank Delyth Jewell for those. I have confidence that the UK Government wants to do the right thing in relation to privacy and the app. I had a chance to discuss this with UK Ministers and with the First Minister of Scotland yesterday, so I don't doubt their intentions. I think there is still a gap between the intention and being able to offer the guarantees that I think people will need in order to feel confident that their information is being shared for the purposes that they're prepared to share it and not vulnerable to being exploited for purposes for which they haven't given their permission. That's why I said in my answer to Paul Davies that I think the UK Government should publish a statement of privacy arrangements alongside the app, so people can go and see what guarantees are there, and if they're not able to provide those guarantees, and some other aspects of the app being confirmed, then the chances of 60 per cent of people using it will be diminished. I'd like to be able to recommend it to people in Wales, but I'll need to know that those things are properly in their place before I could make that positive step, but that's where I'd like to be. And then, of course, Delyth Jewell is right that the app is only one aspect of all of this. You have to have, in that new world, community-based testing, tracing and isolating arrangements. The Public Health Wales leaked non-final paper that we've spent a bit of time talking about today is a detailed account of how we might be able to get to that position. It is being refined in further discussions. Local authorities, I think, will have a really important part to play in helping to populate the teams that we will need, partly because they have people who are not able to do the jobs they would normally do, and also because they have that local intelligence and understanding of populations on the ground. We will work over this week to identify the number of tests we really think we will need, the number of contact tracers we really think we will need, the split between people who will be contacted and traced online by the telephone and on foot - because you have to have some bits of all of that - and then we will publish our implementation plan demonstrating how those systems will be achieved here in Wales.
Welsh: Diolch i Delyth Jewell am hynny. Rwy'n hyderus fod Llywodraeth y DU eisiau gwneud y peth iawn o ran preifatrwydd a'r ap. Cefais gyfle i drafod hyn gyda Gweinidogion y DU a Phrif Weinidog yr Alban ddoe, felly nid wyf yn amau eu bwriadau. Rwy'n credu bod bwlch o hyd rhwng y bwriad a gallu i gynnig y gwarantau y credaf y bydd pobl eu hangen er mwyn teimlo'n hyderus fod eu gwybodaeth yn cael ei rhannu at y dibenion y maent yn barod i'w rhannu ac nad yw mewn perygl o gael ei chamddefnyddio at ddibenion nad ydynt wedi rhoi eu caniatâd ar eu cyfer. Dyna pam y dywedais yn fy ateb i Paul Davies fy mod yn credu y dylai Llywodraeth y DU gyhoeddi datganiad o drefniadau preifatrwydd ochr yn ochr â'r ap, fel y gall pobl fynd i weld pa warantau sydd yno, ac os nad ydynt yn gallu darparu'r gwarantau hynny, a chadarnhau rhai agweddau eraill ar yr ap, mae'r gobaith o weld 60 y cant o bobl yn ei ddefnyddio yn gostwng. Hoffwn allu ei argymell i bobl yng Nghymru, ond bydd angen i mi wybod bod y pethau hynny yn eu lle cyn i mi allu cymryd y cam cadarnhaol hwnnw, ond dyna lle hoffwn fod. Ac yna, wrth gwrs, mae Delyth Jewell yn iawn mai dim ond un agwedd ar hyn i gyd yw'r ap. Yn y byd newydd hwn, mae'n rhaid ichi gael trefniadau profi, olrhain ac ynysu yn y gymuned. Mae papur Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru, papur nad yw'n fersiwn derfynol a ddatgelwyd yn answyddogol, ac un y treuliasom beth amser yn sôn amdano heddiw, yn rhoi cyfrif manwl o sut y gallem gyrraedd y sefyllfa honno. Mae'n cael ei fireinio mewn trafodaethau pellach. Credaf y bydd gan awdurdodau lleol ran bwysig iawn i'w chwarae yn helpu i ddarparu pobl i'r timau y byddwn eu hangen, yn rhannol oherwydd bod ganddynt bobl nad ydynt yn gallu gwneud y swyddi y byddent yn eu gwneud fel arfer, a hefyd am fod ganddynt ddealltwriaeth a gwybodaeth leol am boblogaethau ar lawr gwlad. Yr wythnos hon, byddwn yn gweithio i nodi nifer y profion rydym yn credu y byddwn eu hangen, y nifer o olrheinwyr cysylltiadau y credwn y bydd eu hangen arnom, y rhaniad rhwng pobl y cysylltir â hwy ac a gaiff eu holrhain ar-lein, dros y ffôn ac ar droed - oherwydd mae'n rhaid cael rhai darnau o hynny i gyd - ac yna byddwn yn cyhoeddi ein cynllun gweithredu yn dangos sut y caiff y systemau hynny eu cyflawni yma yng Nghymru.