English: Llywydd, the issue of whether Wales should be independent is a matter for people in Wales, and I've always said that if a party were to put that as a prospect in a manifesto and they were to win a majority of seats here in the Senedd, then, of course, if people choose that course of action, then that is the democratic will of people in Wales. Their voice is the important one - not mine, whether I think it's right or wrong. Where I will agree with the leader of Plaid Cymru is this: that if the political geometry of the United Kingdom were to alter, if one of its constituent parts were to choose a different future, that doesn't leave what remains untouched. You would have to have a very serious set of discussions about how Wales's future could best be designed in those different circumstances, and it's why, as the leader of Plaid Cymru knows, we have established our own constitutional commission to help us to think about what choices there would be available to Wales in those circumstances. Independence could be one of them, as it has been ever since his party was established and ever since it's put that prospect in front of the people of Wales. So far, people have not been persuaded of that, and there will be alternative futures that others of us would rather advocate. But that's the right place for these decisions to be debated; they're not for me as First Minister or even for political parties here to make that determination. Just as the leader of Plaid Cymru said there was an unanswerable case for a general election to determine the future economic direction of the United Kingdom, so it would be an unanswerable need for such decisions of the sort that he's outlined this afternoon to be made by the people who put us here.
Welsh: Llywydd, mae'r cwestiwn a ddylai Cymru fod yn annibynnol yn gwestiwn i bobl yng Nghymru, ac rwyf i wedi dweud erioed pe bai plaid yn cynnig hynny fel dewis mewn maniffesto ac y bydden nhw'n ennill mwyafrif y seddi yma yn y Senedd, yna, wrth gwrs, os yw pobl yn dewis y cam hwnnw, yna dyna ewyllys ddemocrataidd pobl yng Nghymru. Eu llais nhw yw'r un pwysig - nid fy un i, pa un a ydw i'n meddwl ei fod yn iawn neu'n anghywir. Lle byddaf yn cytuno ag arweinydd Plaid Cymru yw hyn: pe bai geometreg wleidyddol y Deyrnas Unedig yn newid, pe bai un o'i rhannau cyfansoddol yn dewis gwahanol ddyfodol, nid yw hynny'n gadael yr hyn sy'n weddill heb ei gyffwrdd. Byddai'n rhaid i chi gael cyfres ddifrifol iawn o drafodaethau ynglŷn â'r ffordd orau y gellid cynllunio dyfodol Cymru o dan yr amgylchiadau gwahanol hynny, a dyna pam, fel y mae arweinydd Plaid Cymru yn gwybod, rydym ni wedi sefydlu ein comisiwn cyfansoddiadol ein hunain i'n helpu i feddwl pa ddewisiadau fyddai ar gael i Gymru o dan yr amgylchiadau hynny. Gallai annibyniaeth fod yn un ohonyn nhw, fel y bu ers sefydlu ei blaid ac ers iddi roi'r dewis hwnnw gerbron pobl Cymru. Hyd yn hyn, nid yw pobl wedi cael eu perswadio o hynny, a bydd gwahanol fathau o ddyfodol y byddai'n well gan eraill ohonom ni eu hyrwyddo. Ond dyna'r lle iawn i'r penderfyniadau hyn gael eu trafod; dydyn nhw ddim yn fater i mi fel Prif Weinidog na hyd yn oed i bleidiau gwleidyddol yma wneud y penderfyniad hwnnw. Yn union fel y dywedodd arweinydd Plaid Cymru bod dadl na ellir ei hateb dros etholiad cyffredinol i benderfynu cyfeiriad economaidd y Deyrnas Unedig yn y dyfodol, felly hefyd y byddai'n angen na ellir ei ateb am benderfyniadau o'r fath y mae wedi'u hamlinellu y prynhawn yma i gael eu gwneud gan y bobl sy'n ein rhoi ni yma.