English: Diolch, Llywydd. I'm a little bit surprised, actually, by the opening contribution to this debate because, of course, the motion on the order paper talks about the failure of Welsh devolution and yet, you went on to speak very much more widely about devolution across the United Kingdom and the various challenges that that might face if a federal system, effectively, were to be introduced. Our amendment, of course, is designed to actually get the real steer of the fundamental problem that we've experienced in Wales since the advent of devolution, and that is that we've had a National Assembly that has been dominated by one political party, and that political party has been the Labour Party and it's been in Government in one way or another since 1999. It's a misconception to associate the failures of that Government with devolution and therefore to draw the wrong conclusion, I believe, that, because of the failures of that Government, devolution doesn't work. We believe that devolution has a great deal of potential to transform this nation into the powerhouse that we believe that it can be. We also believe that the way to do that, of course, is to vote Welsh Conservative in the next Welsh Parliament elections in order that we've got a Conservative majority Government. I think it is a little bit rich of Plaid Cymru to be critical in its motion of successive Labour-led Governments when it did form part of one of those Governments for a period of four years. And, you know, I know that they like to have or seem to have collective amnesia about those four years, and we'd like to forget them too, frankly - [ Interruption.] Yes, I'll happily take an intervention.
Welsh: Diolch, Lywydd. Syndod braidd oedd y cyfraniad agoriadol i'r ddadl hon oherwydd, wrth gwrs, mae'r cynnig ar y papur trefn yn sôn am fethiant datganoli yng Nghymru ac eto, fe aethoch ymlaen i siarad yn llawer ehangach am ddatganoli ar draws y Deyrnas Unedig a'r heriau amrywiol a allai ei wynebu hynny pe bai system ffederal, i bob pwrpas, yn cael ei chyflwyno. Mae ein gwelliant, wrth gwrs, wedi'i gynllunio i ddeall yn iawn beth yw'r broblem sylfaenol a wynebwyd gennym yng Nghymru ers dyfodiad datganoli, sef ein bod wedi cael Cynulliad Cenedlaethol sydd wedi'i ddominyddu gan un blaid wleidyddol, a'r blaid wleidyddol honno yw'r Blaid Lafur ac mae wedi bod yn Llywodraeth mewn un ffordd neu'r llall ers 1999. Camgymeriad yw cysylltu methiannau'r Llywodraeth honno â datganoli a dod i'r casgliad anghywir yn sgil hynny, rwy'n credu, nad yw datganoli'n gweithio oherwydd methiannau'r Llywodraeth honno. Credwn fod gan ddatganoli lawer iawn o botensial i drawsnewid y genedl hon yn bwerdy o'r math y credwn y gall fod. Credwn hefyd mai'r ffordd o wneud hynny, wrth gwrs, yw pleidleisio dros y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig yn etholiadau nesaf Senedd Cymru er mwyn i ni gael Llywodraeth fwyafrifol Geidwadol. Rwy'n credu bod gan Blaid Cymru wyneb braidd i fod yn feirniadol o Lywodraethau olynol dan arweiniad Llafur yn ei chynnig a hithau wedi bod yn rhan o un o'r Llywodraethau hynny am gyfnod o bedair blynedd. A gwn eu bod yn hoffi cael neu'n ymddangos fel pe baent oll wedi anghofio'r pedair blynedd hynny, a hoffem ninnau eu hanghofio hefyd, a dweud y gwir - [ Torri ar draws. ] Iawn, rwy'n hapus i dderbyn ymyriad.