English: I don't think the capacity and demand review, or indeed the mapping exercise, is entirely related to co-responders at all, actually. It's about understanding properly across the whole service, having introduced a new clinical response model, having had a variety of methods to look at piloting different ways of running the service - to understand what exists in different parts of the country, and what has the best evidence to actually succeed. Now, some of that may well be about making better use of community co-responders and other organisations. We're looking at the falls unit that I mentioned in the statement as well. We've had falls pilots looking at different models to deliver a falls service. So, it is about understanding where is the evidence and how do we get more consistency. And the fire and rescue service could be part of that, but it's not about a lack of willingness or a lack of desire to want to have a relationship with the fire and rescue service. It is about how do we make the best use of people's skills and ability, in terms of value for the public purse and understanding what the role map and the contractual ability is to deploy fire and rescue staff in a different way. Because there is a difference of opinion with representatives of the workforce in the fire and rescue service as to whether or not their role and their contractual responsibilities mean they could and should be required to act in this way. Now, we're open, from a health point of view, to having a proper partnership with the fire and rescue service, to understand the cost of that and the value of that, even more importantly, but it does require some progress on the fire and rescue side as well. I personally think that it would help to bolster numbers and maintain head count within the fire and rescue service, but of course we have to respect the fact that there are negotiations taking place with representatives within the workforce, as well as our understanding of how public value is properly deployed.
Welsh: Dydw i ddim yn credu bod yr adolygiad o gapasiti a galw, nac yn wir yr ymarfer mapio, yn ymwneud yn gyfan gwbl â chyd-ymatebwyr o gwbl, mewn gwirionedd. Mae'n ymwneud â deall yn iawn ar draws y gwasanaeth cyfan, ar ôl cyflwyno model ymateb clinigol newydd, ar ôl bod ag amrywiaeth o ddulliau i ystyried treialu gwahanol ffyrdd o redeg y gwasanaeth - deall yr hyn sy'n bodoli mewn gwahanol rannau o'r wlad, a beth sydd â'r dystiolaeth orau i lwyddo mewn gwirionedd. Nawr, mae'n ddigon posibl y bydd rhywfaint o hynny'n ymwneud â gwneud gwell defnydd o gyd-ymatebwyr cymunedol a sefydliadau eraill. Rydym ni'n ystyried yr uned cwympiadau y soniais amdani yn y datganiad hefyd. Mae cynlluniau treialu wedi bod yn ystyried gwahanol fodelau i ddarparu gwasanaeth cwympiadau. Felly, mae'n ymwneud â deall ble mae'r dystiolaeth a sut mae cael mwy o gysondeb. A gallai'r gwasanaeth tân ac achub fod yn rhan o hynny, ond nid yw hyn yn ymwneud â diffyg parodrwydd neu ddiffyg awydd i fod eisiau perthynas â'r gwasanaeth tân ac achub. Mae'n ymwneud â sut yr ydym ni'n gwneud y defnydd gorau o sgiliau a gallu pobl, o ran gwerth i bwrs y wlad a deall beth yw'r map swyddogaethau a'r gallu cytundebol i ddefnyddio staff tân ac achub mewn ffordd wahanol. Oherwydd mae gwahaniaeth barn â chynrychiolwyr y gweithlu yn y gwasanaeth tân ac achub ynghylch a yw eu swyddogaethau a'u cyfrifoldebau cytundebol yn golygu y gallai ac y dylai fod yn ofynnol iddyn nhw weithredu yn y modd hwn. Nawr, rydym yn agored, o safbwynt iechyd, i fod â phartneriaeth briodol â'r gwasanaeth tân ac achub, i ddeall cost hynny a gwerth hynny, yn bwysicach fyth, ond mae angen rhywfaint o gynnydd ar yr ochr tân ac achub hefyd. Rwy'n credu, yn bersonol, y byddai o gymorth i gryfhau a chynnal niferoedd y staff yn y gwasanaeth tân ac achub, ond, wrth gwrs, mae'n rhaid inni barchu'r ffaith bod trafodaethau'n cael eu cynnal gyda chynrychiolwyr yn y gweithlu, yn ogystal â'n dealltwriaeth o sut y caiff gwerth cyhoeddus ei ddefnyddio'n briodol.