English: I'm grateful to you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I'm grateful to all Members who've participated in our debate, or our conversation, actually - it felt more like a conversation between individuals rather than a more formal debate. I'm grateful to Janet Finch-Saunders for the way in which she described some of the impacts of plastic waste, and it played straight into some of the points that were made by Mike Hedges, talking about the importance of an ecosystem within a river, and to look at it then in the way that the Minister suggested, in a holistic sense. When we debate and we discuss these matters together, the points made by Rhun ap Iorwerth in terms of the monitoring - . I do agree with you, very much so, that we need to look at how we monitor and we understand the impact of human activities in the widest sense on the water ecosystem, and we need to do that through the year to have the understanding of that whole impact on the ecosystem. I understand, and I'm familiar, clearly, with the Usk and the Wye, as you'd imagine, Peter, and one of the really, really traumatic issues I look at sometimes is the impact on the Wye at the moment. I think the Wye and Usk Foundation provided us with a route-map for how we manage water quality over a period of time. I'm not sure where we've gone wrong on that, and I would like to look again at that. I hope that the Minister will be able to work with Llyr and the committee on the undertakings she's given this afternoon, because, as Sam Kurtz pointed out quite rightly, there is at times a lot more that unites us than defends us - divides us, sorry. Deputy Presiding Officer, in closing, I was reminded during the debate of a walk I took with the Member for Pontypridd and the Member for Ogmore along the Taff in Ponty, and we spoke about how the town was turning again to the river, and, in the conversation we had, I repeated an observation from a friend of mine in Tredegar who mentioned that, as the industrial revolution took hold in the development of our Valleys communities particularly, we turned our backs on our rivers. The rivers were put into culverts or the rivers were tarmacked over or concreted over and developed and forgotten about. The towns and the people turned their backs on the river. I hope, Minister, that that isn't what we would do here today. What you said in replying to the motion, to the debate, about the holistic approach is exactly the point that I think would unite the Chamber in support of the work that you're doing, and I hope that, over the coming Senedd, we will be able to see the legislation -
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar ichi, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Rwy'n ddiolchgar i'r holl Aelodau sydd wedi cymryd rhan yn ein dadl, neu ein sgwrs - roedd yn teimlo'n debycach i sgwrs rhwng unigolion yn hytrach na dadl fwy ffurfiol. Rwy'n ddiolchgar i Janet Finch-Saunders am y ffordd y disgrifiodd rai o effeithiau gwastraff plastig, ac roedd yn adleisio rhai o'r pwyntiau a wnaed gan Mike Hedges, yn sôn am bwysigrwydd ecosystem o fewn afon, ac i edrych arno felly yn y ffordd yr awgrymodd y Gweinidog, mewn ffordd gyfannol. Pan drafodwn y materion hyn gyda'n gilydd, y pwyntiau a wnaed gan Rhun ap Iorwerth am y monitro - . Rwy'n cytuno â chi, yn bendant iawn, fod angen inni edrych ar sut yr awn ati i fonitro a deall effaith gweithgareddau dynol yn yr ystyr ehangaf ar yr ecosystem ddŵr, ac mae angen inni wneud hynny drwy'r flwyddyn i gael dealltwriaeth o'r holl effaith ar yr ecosystem. Rwy'n deall, ac rwy'n gyfarwydd, yn amlwg, ag Afon Wysg ac Afon Gwy, fel y byddech chi'n ei ddychmygu, Peter, ac un o'r pethau gwirioneddol drawmatig rwy'n edrych arno weithiau yw'r effaith ar Afon Gwy ar hyn o bryd. Rwy'n credu bod Sefydliad Gwy ac Wysg wedi rhoi cynllun i ni ar gyfer sut i reoli ansawdd dŵr dros gyfnod o amser. Nid wyf yn siŵr lle'r ydym wedi mynd o'i le ar hynny, a hoffwn edrych eto ar hynny. Rwy'n gobeithio y bydd y Gweinidog yn gallu gweithio gyda Llyr a'r pwyllgor ar yr ymrwymiadau a roddwyd ganddi y prynhawn yma, oherwydd, fel y nododd Sam Kurtz yn gwbl briodol, ar adegau ceir llawer mwy sy'n ein huno nag sy'n ein rhannu. Ddirprwy Lywydd, wrth gloi, cefais fy atgoffa yn ystod y ddadl am daith gerdded a wneuthum gyda'r Aelod dros Bontypridd a'r Aelod dros Ogwr ar hyd y Taf ym Mhontypridd, a buom yn siarad ynglŷn â sut yr oedd y dref yn troi eto at yr afon, ac yn y sgwrs a gawsom, ailadroddais sylw gan ffrind i mi yn Nhredegar a soniodd, wrth i'r chwyldro diwydiannol fwrw gwraidd yn natblygiad cymunedau'r Cymoedd yn arbennig, ein bod wedi troi ein cefnau ar ein hafonydd. Rhoddwyd yr afonydd mewn cwlfertau neu gosodwyd tarmac neu goncrid drostynt a'u datblygu a'u hanghofio. Trodd y trefi a'r bobl eu cefnau ar yr afon. Weinidog, gobeithio nad dyna a wnawn yma heddiw. Yr hyn a ddywedoch chi wrth ymateb i'r cynnig, i'r ddadl, am y dull cyfannol yw'r union bwynt y credaf y byddai'n uno'r Siambr i gefnogi'r gwaith a wnewch, a gobeithio y byddwn, dros y Senedd sydd i ddod, yn gallu gweld y ddeddfwriaeth -