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English: Well, you have to show some sympathy to Pinewood, because there were internal changes at the time that were significant, problematic and very far-reaching for them. So, they were under huge pressure. You need to bear that in mind, I think, when we now look back at what was a difficult relationship with them for a while.
Welsh: Mae'n rhaid dangos rhywfaint o gydymdeimlad i Pinewood, oherwydd roedd y newidiadau mewnol ar y pryd yn sylweddol ac yn drafferthus ac yn bellgyrhaeddol iawn iddyn nhw. Felly, roedden nhw o dan bwysau aruthrol. Mae'n rhaid cofio hynny, rydw i'n credu, pan rŷm ni nawr yn edrych yn ôl ar beth oedd yn berthynas anodd gyda nhw am gyfnod.
English: Okay. Sorry, but we have to bring this session to a close, I'm afraid. Thank you very much to you for your time and for giving evidence this morning.
Welsh: Ocê. Sori, ond mae'n rhaid i ni ddod â'r sesiwn i ben nawr, yn anffodus. Diolch yn fawr iawn ichi am eich amser ac am roi tystiolaeth inni.
English: And if there's anything that any Members would want in addition, I'm happy to respond in writing, if that would be helfpul.
Welsh: Ac os oes unrhyw beth ychwanegol y mae unrhyw un o'r Aelodau am ei gael, rydw i'n hapus i ymateb yn ysgrifenedig os yw hynny'n help.
English: Thank you very much for that.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn am hynny.
English: We'll have a short break for five minutes. Please be back on time. Thank you.
Welsh: Byddwn ni'n cael seibiant o bum munud. A allwn ni fod nôl ar amser? Diolch.
English: Thank you very much, and welcome to item 3, film and major television productions in Wales: evidence session 15. The witnesses joining us today are Ken Skates, Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Transport - I was going to say 'heritage' then - Dafydd Elis-Thomas, Minister for Culture, Tourism and Sport, Mick McGuire, director of business and regions, and also Joedi Langley, head of creative sector. Welcome to you. Before I start, may I ask Members and witnesses to give answers that are as concise as possible please, because we have less than an hour for this session? We're going to ask questions on different themes, if that's okay with you. We'll start with what happened last week in the context of the report by the auditor general on Pinewood. The first question from me is: on 10 January, Adam Price AM asked you, Dafydd Elis-Thomas, about the funding that the Welsh Government is providing to Pinewood and you said, and I quote, 'It is not accurate to say that we as a Government are paying Pinewood'. Clearly, from the report by the auditor general, it demonstrates that there was an agreement between Pinewood and the Welsh Government, and running costs and a fee were part of that. So, could you just expand on the reasons why you said in answer to that question that there was no payment being made between the Welsh Government and Pinewood?
Welsh: Diolch, a chroeso i eitem 3, cynyrchiadau ffilm a theledu mawr yng Nghymru: sesiwn dystiolaeth 15. Y tystion yma heddiw yw Ken Skates, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros yr Economi a Thrafnidiaeth - roeddwn i'n mynd i ddweud 'treftadaeth', sori - Dafydd Elis-Thomas, y Gweinidog Diwylliant, Twristiaeth a Chwaraeon, Mick McGuire, cyfarwyddwr busnes a rhanbarthau, a hefyd Joedi Langley, sef pennaeth y sector creadigol. Croeso i chi. Cyn i mi ddechrau, a allaf ofyn i'r Aelodau ac i'r tystion roi atebion mor concise â phosibl gan fod llai nag awr gyda ni? Rydym yn mynd i ofyn cwestiynau ar themâu gwahanol, os yw hynny'n iawn gyda chi. Rydym ni'n cychwyn gyda'r hyn sydd wedi digwydd yr wythnos diwethaf yng nghyd-destun yr adroddiad gan yr archwilydd cyffredinol i mewn i Pinewood. Y cwestiwn cyntaf gen i yw: ar 10 Ionawr, roedd Adam Price AC wedi gofyn i chi, Dafydd Elis-Thomas, ynglŷn â'r arian mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn ei roi i Pinewood, ac fe wnaethoch chi ddweud, ac rwy'n dyfynnu, 'Nid yw'n gywir i ddweud ein bod ni fel Llywodraeth yn talu i Pinewood'. Yn amlwg, o'r adroddiad gan yr archwilydd cyffredinol, mae'n dangos bod yna gytundeb rhwng Pinewood a Llywodraeth Cymru, a chostau rhedeg a ffi yn rhan o hynny. Felly, a allwch chi jest ehangu ar y rhesymeg pam y gwnaethoch chi ddweud yn y cwestiwn hwnnw nad oedd yna unrhyw daliad rhwng Llywodraeth Cymru a Pinewood?
English: Well, what I was referring to was that there is nothing additional to what's contained within the commercial agreement with Pinewood being paid to Pinewood. That's what I should have said in that response. The exact figure - the fee that Pinewood receives - of course is commercially confidential and I'm sure that the committee will understand why that is the case.
Welsh: Wel, yr hyn roeddwn i'n cyfeirio ato fo oedd nad oes yna ddim byd yn ychwanegol i'r hyn sydd yn y cytundeb masnachol gyda Pinewood yn cael ei dalu i Pinewood. Dyna ddylwn i fod wedi dweud yn yr ateb yna. Mae'r union ffigwr - y ffi mae Pinewood yn ei dderbyn - wrth gwrs yn fasnachol ac yn gyfrinachol ac rwy'n sicr y bydd y pwyllgor yn deall pam bod hynny'n wir.
English: You also pay towards the marketing of Pinewood, so that's in addition to what you say is confidential. If you needed to add to what was on the Record, why did you not go back to correct the Record to ensure that what was on the parliamentary Record was correct?
Welsh: Rydych chi hefyd yn talu arian ar gyfer marchnata Pinewood, so mae hwnnw'n ychwanegol at yr hyn rydych chi'n ei ddweud sy'n gyfrinachol. Os oedd angen i chi ychwanegu at yr hyn a oedd wedi cael ei roi ar y Record, pam nad aethoch chi yn ôl i gywiro'r Record i sicrhau bod beth sydd ar y Record yn seneddol yn gywir, felly?
English: Were there discussions between the Welsh Government and production companies prior to agreeing the relationship with Pinewood to establish whether there was a sufficient pipeline of business for a new studio?
Welsh: A fu yna drafodaethau rhwng Llywodraeth Cymru a chwmnïau cynhyrchu cyn cytuno ar y berthynas efo Pinewood i weld a oedd digon o fusnes ar gael ar gyfer stiwdio newydd?
English: If I could just comment, it wouldn't be normal practice to have discussions with other companies who may be in competition with those companies who have been in touch with us. But it would be common practice to discuss with the supply side to ensure that we have the skills in place and the companies in place to supply the needs of any project that may move in. Those are the kinds of discussions that would happen, not a discussion asking one company, 'Well, would you be happy for another to come in?' But, as Mick has made quite clear, that formal agreement with Pinewood was reached for the situation where the Bad Wolf studio was established. And that's how we endeavour to work. We have discussions with the industry occasionally, but consistently - that's how I would describe it - and with various representatives of the industry. And, in internally restructuring our relationship with many industries within this sector, and many cultural organisations and institutions, that will strengthen, and I'm sure we will come on to discuss the question of Creative Wales, because we are in a very exciting position at the moment, I think, as a Government, as are you as a committee.
Welsh: Os caf i jest wneud sylw, ni fyddai fo'n arferol i drafod efo cwmnïau eraill a fyddai o bosib yn cystadlu â chwmnïau a fyddai wedi cysylltu â ni. Ond mi fyddai fo'n arferol i drafod efo'r ochr gyflenwi i sicrhau bod gennym ni'r sgiliau a bod gennym ni'r cwmnïau i gyflenwi beth a fyddai anghenion unrhyw brosiect a fyddai'n symud i mewn. Dyna'r math o drafodaethau a fyddai'n digwydd, nid trafodaeth yn gofyn i un cwmni, 'O, fuasech chi'n fodlon i'r cwmni yma ddod i mewn?' Ond, fel y mae Mick wedi ei ddweud - wedi'i wneud hi'n hollol glir - fe gafwyd y gytundeb ffurfiol gan Pinewood ar gyfer y sefyllfa lle datblygwyd stiwdio Bad Wolf. A fel yna yr ydym ni'n ceisio gweithio, sef trafod efo'r diwydiant yn achlysurol gyson, buaswn i'n galw'r peth, gyda gwahanol gynrychiolwyr o'r diwydiant. Ac, wrth ailstrwythuro yn fewnol ar hyn o bryd yn ein perthynas efo nifer o ddiwydiannau o fewn y sector yma, ac o sefydliadau diwylliannol, mi fydd hynny'n cryfhau, ac rydw i'n siŵr y down ni yn y man i drafod cwestiwn Cymru Greadigol, achos rydym ni mewn sefyllfa gynhyrfus iawn ar hyn o bryd, rydw i'n meddwl, fel Llywodraeth, a chithau fel pwyllgor.
English: Okay. When were you informed that there could be a conflict of interest with Pinewood both managing the media investment budget and also providing post-production services? When was that brought to your attention?
Welsh: Ocê. Pa bryd a gawsoch chi wybod y gallai fod gwrthdaro buddiannau gan fod Pinewood yn rheoli'r gyllideb buddsoddi yn y cyfryngau a hefyd yn darparu gwasanaethau ôl-gynhyrchu? Pryd a ddaeth hynny i'ch sylw chi?
English: Do you have anything else, Siân? We are aware of the fact that we haven't had a great deal of time to look at the report in a great deal of detail, so, if it would be acceptable to you, we are going to continue with general questions on film and television. But if you could come back to us, we will have more questions further down the line in greater depth, if that's okay with you, before the end of the term. We moving on now, therefore, to other questions from Mick Antoniw.
Welsh: A oes yna unrhyw beth arall, Siân, gyda ti? Rŷm ni jest yn ymwybodol o'r ffaith nad ydym ni wedi cael lot o amser i edrych ar yr adroddiad yn gynhwysfawr, so, pe byddai'n iawn gyda chi, rŷm ni'n mynd i barhau gyda chwestiynau cyffredinol ar ffilm. Ond pe baech chi'n gallu dod yn ôl, bydd mwy o gwestiynau gyda ni lawr y lein, gyda mwy o ddyfnder, os yw hynny'n iawn gyda chi, cyn diwedd y tymor. Rydym ni'n symud ymlaen, felly, at gwestiynau eraill Mick Antoniw.
English: We'll conclude this session. Thank you very much for joining us today. We do appreciate the time that you have taken to spend with us.
Welsh: Down ni â'r sesiwn yma i ben. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am ddod mewn yma atom heddiw. Rydym yn gwerthfawrogi'r amser rydych wedi ei roi i ni.
English: Moving on to item 4, papers to note. There are several papers here as you'll see in front of you. Rather than me going through them all orally, do any of you have any comments to make on any of the letters that have been sent into us? No? You're content to note them all, then. Yes?
Welsh: Symud ymlaen at eitem 4, papurau i'w nodi. Mae yna lu o bapurau yma fel yr ydych yn gweld o'ch blaen. Yn hytrach na fy mod i'n eu dweud nhw i gyd ar lafar, a oes gan unrhyw un ohonoch sylw ar un o'r llythyrau sydd wedi dod atom? Na? Hapus i nodi, felly. Ie?
English: Item 5, a motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting. Is everyone content?
Welsh: Eitem 5, cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i wahardd y cyhoedd o'r cyfarfod. Ydy pobl yn hapus â hynny?
English: And the first item on our agenda this afternoon is questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Finance, and the first question, Gareth Bennett.
Welsh: Yr eitem gyntaf ar ein hagenda ni y prynhawn yma yw'r cwestiynau i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros Gyllid, a'r cwestiwn cyntaf, Gareth Bennett.
English: I thank the Member for the question. Despite deep cuts to our conventional capital budget, the Welsh Government has ambitious plans for investment in South Wales Central, including development of the south Wales metro, the new Velindre Cancer Centre and 43 different projects being taken forward through the twenty-first century schools programme.
Welsh: Diolch i'r Aelod am ei gwestiwn. Er gwaethaf toriadau sylweddol i'n cyllideb gyfalaf gonfensiynol, mae gan Lywodraeth Cymru gynlluniau uchelgeisiol ar gyfer buddsoddi yng Nghanol De Cymru, gan gynnwys datblygu metro de Cymru, canolfan ganser newydd Felindre a 43 o brosiectau gwahanol sy'n cael eu cyflwyno drwy raglen ysgolion yr unfed ganrif ar hugain.
English: Thanks for the answer. The Minister will be aware of the project to reopen the Rhondda tunnel as a footpath and cycle path. Following a recent report by Balfour Beatty, there has been an assessment that 95 per cent of the tunnel is in a very good condition. Now, the Highways Agency is responsible for the safety of the tunnel but isn't allowed to reopen the tunnel. Would the Welsh Government now consider taking over ownership of the tunnel from the Highways Agency in order to progress the scheme?
Welsh: Diolch am eich ateb. Bydd y Gweinidog yn ymwybodol o'r prosiect i ailagor twnnel y Rhondda fel llwybr cerdded a llwybr beicio. Yn dilyn adroddiad diweddar gan Balfour Beatty, cafwyd asesiad fod 95 y cant o'r twnnel mewn cyflwr da iawn. Nawr, mae'r Asiantaeth Priffyrdd yn gyfrifol am ddiogelwch y twnnel, ond ni chaniateir iddynt ailagor y twnnel. A fyddai Llywodraeth Cymru bellach yn ystyried cymryd meddiant ar y twnnel gan yr Asiantaeth Priffyrdd er mwyn bwrw ymlaen â'r cynllun?
English: I thank Gareth Bennett for that supplementary question. He is quite right. The Welsh Government has provided some funding through or budget agreement with Plaid Cymru to fund what's called the tapping survey of the Rhondda tunnel. Once we are able to consider the outcome of that survey - and he is also right to say that ownership of the tunnel is one of the next issues that we would need to consider - I look forward to discussing what might be possible next with members of Plaid Cymru as part of our budget considerations.
Welsh: Diolch i Gareth Bennett am ei gwestiwn atodol. Mae'n llygad ei le. Mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi darparu cyllid drwy ein cytundeb cyllidebol gyda Phlaid Cymru i ariannu'r hyn a elwir yn arolwg tapio o dwnnel y Rhondda. Pan allwn ystyried canlyniad yr arolwg hwnnw - ac mae'n iawn i ddweud hefyd fod perchenogaeth ar y twnnel yn un o'r materion nesaf y byddai angen inni eu hystyried - edrychaf ymlaen at drafod yr hyn a allai fod yn bosibl nesaf gydag Aelodau o Blaid Cymru fel rhan o'n hystyriaethau cyllidebol.
English: Finance Minister, the Vale of Glamorgan Council are out to consultation at the moment on improving transport links to the M4 from the A48 through the village of Pendoylan. Are you in a position to inform us how this project would be paid for? Is it from the city deal, or would a bid have to come directly to you, or to the Welsh Government, I should say, to release capital moneys for the development of this road, because, at the moment, certainly from the representations I've had from residents, there is uncertainty as to exactly who picks up the bill for this improvement of transport links?
Welsh: Weinidog Cyllid, mae Cyngor Bro Morgannwg yn ymgynghori ar hyn o bryd ar wella cysylltiadau trafnidiaeth rhwng yr M4 a'r A48 drwy bentref Pendeulwyn. A ydych mewn sefyllfa i roi gwybod i ni sut y byddai'r prosiect hwn yn cael ei ariannu? A fyddai hynny'n digwydd drwy'r fargen ddinesig, neu a fyddai'n rhaid gwneud cais yn uniongyrchol i chi, neu i Lywodraeth Cymru, dylwn ddweud, i ryddhau arian cyfalaf ar gyfer datblygu'r ffordd hon, oherwydd ar hyn o bryd, yn sicr yn ôl y sylwadau a gefais gan drigolion, ceir ansicrwydd ynglŷn â phwy sy'n talu am y gwelliant hwn i'r cysylltiadau trafnidiaeth?
English: Llywydd, as far as I'm aware, the discussions are still at an early stage on the funding arrangements, should that project ever get the go-ahead. There are precedents in the Swansea city deal for ways in which investment can be shared between the Welsh Government and a city deal. I will make enquiries, however, and if there is more up-to-date information than I have with me, then I'll write to the Member to let him know.
Welsh: Lywydd, hyd y gwn i, mae'n ddyddiau cynnar o hyd o ran y trafodaethau ynglŷn â'r trefniadau ariannu, pe bai'r prosiect hwnnw byth yn cael caniatâd i fynd rhagddo. Ceir cynseiliau ym margen ddinesig Abertawe am ffyrdd y gellir rhannu buddsoddiad rhwng Llywodraeth Cymru a bargen ddinesig. Byddaf yn gwneud ymholiadau, fodd bynnag, ac os caf wybodaeth fwy cyfredol, byddaf yn ysgrifennu at yr Aelod i roi gwybod iddo.
English: I welcome what you've just said about the Rhondda tunnel, Cabinet Secretary. I've got a vision of a fully accessible cycle track covering the whole of my constituency. At the moment, it's patchy, to say the least. And the vision includes linking up the Rhondda tunnel with the neighbouring valley, Blaengwynfi. Now, I'm soon to be meeting various interested parties from a cycling perspective to see what can be done to turn this vision into a reality. Minister, are you on board? Will you agree to progress this question of ownership of the Rhondda tunnel as a matter of urgency, and would you, in principle, be prepared to work with us in the Rhondda on turning this cycling vision into a reality?
Welsh: Croesawaf yr hyn a ddywedoch yn awr am dwnnel y Rhondda, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet. Mae gennyf weledigaeth o lwybr beicio hollol hygyrch sy'n cyrraedd pob rhan o fy etholaeth. Ar hyn o bryd, mae'n dameidiog, a dweud y lleiaf. Ac mae'r weledigaeth yn cynnwys cysylltu twnnel y Rhondda a'r dyffryn cyfagos, Blaengwynfi. Nawr, byddaf yn cyfarfod cyn bo hir â gwahanol bartïon â diddordeb o safbwynt beicio i weld beth y gellir ei wneud i droi'r weledigaeth yn realiti. Weinidog, a ydych yn cefnogi hyn? A wnewch chi gytuno i fwrw ati ar y cwestiwn o berchnogaeth ar dwnnel y Rhondda fel mater o frys, ac a fyddech chi mewn egwyddor yn barod i weithio gyda ni yn y Rhondda ar droi'r weledigaeth feicio hon yn realiti?
English: I thank the Member for the question and for the very interesting information she's just provided. What I can say, Llywydd, is this: the future of the tunnel has featured in the last two years' worth of discussions that I conducted with Plaid Cymru around the budget. I hope that we will have a chance to have a further round of those discussions alongside the current budget-making process, and I'm very happy to meet the Member, if that would be the right way to do it, to share the information that we have as a result of what we've agreed so far, and to hear of other possibilities that she thinks we ought to be aware of. FootnoteLink
Welsh: Diolch i'r Aelod am ei chwestiwn ac am y wybodaeth ddiddorol iawn a ddarparwyd ganddi. Gallaf ddweud hyn, Lywydd: mae dyfodol y twnnel wedi cael sylw yn y trafodaethau a gynhaliais gyda Phlaid Cymru ynghylch y gyllideb dros y ddwy flynedd ddiwethaf. Gobeithio y cawn gyfle i gael rownd ychwanegol o'r trafodaethau hynny ochr yn ochr â'r broses bresennol o bennu'r gyllideb, ac rwy'n fwy na pharod i gyfarfod â'r Aelod, os mai dyna'r ffordd gywir o wneud pethau, i rannu'r wybodaeth sydd gennym o ganlyniad i'r hyn a gytunwyd hyd yn hyn, ac i glywed am bosibiliadau eraill y mae'n credu y dylem fod yn ymwybodol ohonynt. FootnoteLink
English: Will the Finance Minister highlight Welsh Government capital investment in the NHS and South Wales Central as a result of the Wales infrastructure investment plan, and does he agree with Paul Johnson of the Institute for Fiscal Studies that there will be no Brexit dividend to help finance the additional funding boost to the NHS, or perhaps even agree with Dr Sarah Wollaston, who chairs the House of Commons health committee, who tweeted this was 'tosh'? 'The Brexit dividend tosh was expected but treats the public as fools. Sad to see Govt slide to populist arguments rather than evidence on such an important issue.'
Welsh: A wnaiff y Gweinidog Cyllid nodi buddsoddiad cyfalaf Llywodraeth Cymru yn y GIG a Chanol De Cymru o ganlyniad i'r cynllun buddsoddi yn seilwaith Cymru, ac a yw'n cytuno â Paul Johnson o'r Sefydliad Astudiaethau Cyllid na fydd unrhyw ddifidend Brexit i helpu i gyllido'r hwb ariannol ychwanegol i'r GIG, neu efallai hyd yn oed yn cytuno â Dr Sarah Wollaston, sy'n cadeirio pwyllgor iechyd Tŷ'r Cyffredin, a drydarodd fod hyn yn ddwli? Dywedodd fod dwli difidend Brexit i'w ddisgwyl ond mae'n trin y cyhoedd fel ffyliaid. Trist gweld y Llywodraeth yn boddio dadleuon poblyddol yn hytrach na thystiolaeth ar fater mor bwysig.
English: I thank Jane Hutt, of course, for that. I'll take her question in the two parts that she asked it. Of course we wish to use Welsh Government budgets to continue to invest in the NHS in South Wales Central. That includes £37 million currently being provided as part of phase 2 developments to improve neonatal care at the university hospital here in Cardiff; £14 million at Prince Charles Hospital in Merthyr, as part of the upgrading of facilities at that site; and £8 million to create a diagnostic hub at the Royal Glamorgan Hospital, which I think is one of the most exciting developments shaping the future of health services in the South Wales Central area. As to the claim that the uplift in the NHS, when we finally find out what that actually means for Wales, and any suggestion that this is part of some sort of Brexit dividend has fallen apart so rapidly in the Prime Minister's hands that she must be deeply sorry that she ever included that in her announcement. We know, on any of the surveys that we see, is that it is likely to have an adverse effect on the economy right across the United Kingdom, an adverse effect on tax receipts into the Treasury. And any idea - any idea - that necessary investment in the NHS is to be found in that way is simply to perpetuate a piece of nonsense that was used during the referendum campaign. And I agree with what Sarah Wollaston said - it is deeply disappointing to see something that is so plainly misleading being repeated again.
Welsh: Diolch i Jane Hutt, wrth gwrs, am hynny. Fe atebaf ei chwestiwn yn y ddwy ran y'i gofynnodd. Wrth gwrs, hoffem ddefnyddio cyllidebau Llywodraeth Cymru i barhau i fuddsoddi yn y GIG yng Nghanol De Cymru. Mae hynny'n cynnwys £37 miliwn sy'n cael ei ddarparu ar hyn o bryd fel rhan o ddatblygiadau cyfnod 2 i wella gofal newyddenedigol yn yr ysbyty athrofaol yma yng Nghaerdydd; £14 miliwn yn Ysbyty'r Tywysog Siarl ym Merthyr Tudful, fel rhan o'r gwaith o uwchraddio'r cyfleusterau ar y safle hwnnw; ac £8 miliwn i greu canolbwynt diagnostig yn Ysbyty Brenhinol Morgannwg, sef un o'r datblygiadau mwyaf cyffrous, yn fy marn i, sy'n llunio dyfodol gwasanaethau iechyd yn ardal Canol De Cymru. O ran yr honiad am yr hwb i'r GIG, pan fyddwn yn darganfod beth y mae hynny'n ei olygu i Gymru mewn gwirionedd, mae unrhyw awgrym fod hyn yn rhan o ryw fath o ddifidend Brexit wedi chwalu mor gyflym yn nwylo Prif Weinidog y DU fel bod yn rhaid ei bod yn difaru cynnwys hynny yn ei chyhoeddiad. Gwyddom, o unrhyw un o'r arolygon a welwn, fod hyn yn debygol o gael effaith andwyol ar yr economi ledled y Deyrnas Unedig, effaith andwyol ar dderbyniadau treth i'r Trysorlys. Ac nid yw unrhyw syniad - unrhyw syniad - fod y buddsoddiad angenrheidiol yn y GIG i'w gael yn y modd hwnnw yn gwneud dim heblaw tragwyddoli darn o nonsens a ddefnyddiwyd yn ystod ymgyrch y refferendwm. Ac rwy'n cytuno â'r hyn a ddywedodd Sarah Wollaston - mae'n siomedig iawn gweld rhywbeth sydd mor amlwg yn gamarweiniol yn cael ei ailadrodd eto.
English: Well, the First Minister and I take every opportunity to discuss with the UK Government, and interests here in Wales, the need for the promise made to people in Wales two years ago to be made good: that not a penny in funding would be lost as a result of leaving the European Union.
Welsh: Wel, mae'r Prif Weinidog a minnau'n manteisio ar bob cyfle i drafod gyda Llywodraeth y DU, a diddordebau yma yng Nghymru, yr angen i gadw at yr addewid a wnaed i bobl Cymru ddwy flynedd yn ôl: na fyddai ceiniog o gyllid yn cael ei cholli o ganlyniad i adael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd.