English: Now, notwithstanding that, of course, there are some concerns that the eligibility criteria for access to free childcare is restrictive in a way that means that there's not a universal offer that's being made. The children's commissioner and others have voiced their concerns that those young people who are from poorer backgrounds tend to be around 10 months behind their peers in terms of development at age three, and many of those, of course, if their parents are not in work, will simply not have access to what is a high-quality childcare offer that you and I want our young people to have the opportunity to interface with. So, I do wonder, Minister, whether you will as a Government consider the eligibility criteria as we go forward with this Bill, as it moves forward into Committee Stage, so that there's an opportunity not just to discuss the development of the financial framework that sits behind the childcare offer, but also to look more widely at the eligibility criteria that was on the face of the Bill, if you like, in order to perhaps widen it. Other concerns have been raised about the involvement of family members who may well be registered and licensed child minders or nursery owners, and their ability to offer childcare that is paid for via the new childcare scheme. Again, I think that this Bill presents an opportunity to address the concerns that have been raised in relation to that. I can see that there's some reference to parents who might be child minders on the face of the Bill, and the exclusion of those specifically, but what about aunties, uncles, grandparents and any other members of the extended family, who may well be registered and licensed, delivering high-quality childcare and early education? They also, I think, ought to have the opportunity to participate in this scheme and to be funded to participate in the scheme. Concerns have also been raised about capacity within the sector to deliver the childcare offer, and I wonder whether you can tell us where you're at as a Government in terms of pushing the capacity up in those pilot areas. You'll know that there have been some independent reports that have suggested that the capacity that is currently available in Wales is about two hours 40 minutes- worth if it was exploited in full across the whole of the country and this offer were completely taken up per week. That's clearly a long way from the ambition of all young people who are eligible getting the full 30 hours, so I wonder what work you're doing with the National Day Nurseries Association and others in order to ramp that capacity up, and what your experience is in those pilot areas in respect of that. In addition, the Public Policy Institute for Wales raised some serious concerns about the costing of the free childcare offer, in their report some time ago. They reckoned it could cost up to £228 million to deliver it across the whole of Wales. I appreciate that not all of the detail in terms of the whole roll-out is within the explanatory memorandum in respect of this Bill, because it forms a small part of what you're doing, but clearly it is a concern, and I know that the Welsh Government has stuck to its guns in terms of this £100 million price tag. But perhaps you can tell us, given the continuing experience in the pilot areas again, whether you still feel that £100 million is going to be sufficient to be able to deliver against your ambition. Just finally, if I can just say in respect of the involvement of HMRC to deliver this, I think it's eminently sensible. It's very clear from the explanatory memorandum and the financial attachments that any other option is blown out of the water in terms of the attraction, in terms of the cost-effectiveness of partnering with HMRC. You're quite right: they've already got an infrastructure that is in place over the border in England, and to expand that to incorporate a Welsh scheme seems to be absolutely eminently sensible. I'm very pleased that the UK Government have engaged positively, via the Wales Office and via the Chief Secretary to the Treasury, in order to give the appropriate consents and support to facilitate this Bill. So, I'm very pleased to see that and I look forward to hearing your response.
Welsh: Nawr, er gwaethaf hynny, wrth gwrs, ceir rhai pryderon bod y meini prawf o ran manteisio ar ofal plant am ddim yn gyfyngol mewn modd sy'n golygu nad yw cynnig cynhwysfawr yn cael ei wneud. Mae'r comisiynydd plant ac eraill wedi mynegi eu pryderon bod y bobl ifanc hynny sy'n dod o gefndiroedd tlotach yn tueddu i fod tua 10 mis ar ôl eu cyfoedion o ran datblygiad pan fo nhw'n dair oed, ac ni chaiff llawer o'r rheini, wrth gwrs, os nad yw eu rhieni yn y gwaith, unrhyw gyfle i fanteisio ar yr y cynnig gofal plant o ansawdd uchel yr ydych chi a minnau eisiau rhoi cyfle i'n pobl ifanc fanteisio arno. Felly, tybed, Weinidog, a fydd y Llywodraeth yn ystyried y meini prawf cymhwysedd wrth inni symud ymlaen gyda'r Bil hwn, wrth iddo symud ymlaen i'r Cam Pwyllgor, fel y ceir cyfle nid yn unig i drafod datblygiad y fframwaith ariannol sy'n sail i'r cynnig gofal plant, ond hefyd i edrych yn fwy eang ar y meini prawf cymhwysedd a oedd ar wyneb y Bil, os mynnwch chi, er mwyn ei ehangu efallai. Mynegwyd pryderon eraill ynglŷn â chynnwys aelodau o'r teulu sydd efallai yn wir yn warchodwyr plant neu yn berchnogion meithrinfa cofrestredig a thrwyddedig, a'u gallu i gynnig gofal plant a delir amdano drwy'r cynllun gofal plant newydd. Unwaith eto, credaf fod y Bil hwn yn gyfle i roi sylw i'r pryderon a grybwyllwyd yn hynny o beth. Gallaf weld bod rhywfaint o gyfeirio at rieni a allai fod yn warchodwyr plant ar wyneb y Bil, ac at eu heithrio yn benodol, ond beth am fodrybedd, ewythrod, teidiau a neiniau ac aelodau eraill o'r teulu estynedig, sydd o bosib wedi eu cofrestru a'u trwyddedu, sy'n darparu addysg gynnar a gofal plant o ansawdd uchel? Rwy'n credu y dylen nhw, hefyd, gael y cyfle i gymryd rhan yn y cynllun hwn ac i gael eu hariannu i gymryd rhan yn y cynllun. Mynegwyd pryderon hefyd ynghylch gallu'r sector i ddarparu'r cynnig gofal plant, a thybed a allwch chi ddweud wrthym ni ble'r mae'r Llywodraeth arni o ran cynyddu'r gallu yn yr ardaloedd arbrofol hynny. Byddwch yn gwybod y bu rhai adroddiadau annibynnol sydd wedi awgrymu bod y capasiti sydd ar gael ar hyn o bryd yng Nghymru gyfwerth ag oddeutu dwy awr 40 munud pe manteisid arno'n llawn ledled y wlad ac y cofleidiwyd y cynnig hwn yn ei gyfanrwydd yr wythnos hon. Mae hynny'n amlwg yn bell o'r uchelgais y gall pob person ifanc cymwys cael y 30 awr llawn, felly tybed pa waith ydych chi'n ei wneud gyda'r Gymdeithas Genedlaethol Meithrinfeydd Dydd ac eraill er mwyn cynyddu'r capasiti hwnnw, a beth yw eich profiad yn yr ardaloedd arbrofol yn hynny o beth. Yn ogystal, mynegodd Sefydliad Polisi Cyhoeddus Cymru rai pryderon difrifol ynghylch cost y cynnig gofal plant am ddim, yn eu hadroddiad gryn amser yn ôl. Roedden nhw'n tybio y gallai gostio hyd at £228 miliwn i'w weithredu ledled Cymru. Rwy'n sylweddoli nad yw'r holl fanylion o ran cyflwyno'r cynllun yn ei gyfanrwydd yn y Memorandwm Esboniadol mewn cysylltiad â'r Bil hwn, oherwydd mae'n ffurfio rhan fach o'r hyn yr ydych yn ei wneud, ond mae'n amlwg yn destun pryder, ac rwy'n gwybod fod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi dal ei thir o ran y pris hwn o £100 miliwn. Ond efallai y gallwch chi ddweud wrthym ni, o ystyried profiad parhaus yn yr ardaloedd arbrofol unwaith eto, a ydych chi'n dal yn teimlo y bydd £100 miliwn yn ddigonol i allu cyflawni'ch uchelgais. A dim ond yn olaf, os caf i ddweud dim ond o ran cynnwys Cyllid a Thollau EM i gyflawni hyn, credaf fod hynny'n synhwyrol iawn. Mae'n amlwg iawn yn y Memorandwm Esboniadol a'r Atodiadau ariannol bod unrhyw ddewis arall yn ddiffygiol iawn o ran pa mor atyniadol ydyw, o ran cost-effeithiolrwydd cydweithio â CThEM. Rydych chi yn llygad eich lle: mae ganddyn nhw eisoes seilwaith sydd ar waith dros y ffin yn Lloegr, ac mae ehangu hynny i gynnwys cynllun Cymreig yn ymddangos yn synhwyrol iawn. Rwy'n falch iawn bod Llywodraeth y DU wedi ymgysylltu'n gadarnhaol, drwy gyfrwng Swyddfa Cymru a Phrif Ysgrifennydd y Trysorlys, er mwyn rhoi'r caniatâd a'r cymorth priodol i hwyluso'r Bil hwn. Felly, rwy'n falch iawn o weld hynny ac edrychaf ymlaen at glywed eich ymateb.