English: If that's the case, then there's a valid question as to why he dropped the court case. Given that was crowdfunded, I think we should be able to see the legal advice that he received in the court case. [ Interruption.] I know that he was recorded in the media as saying that the court case was dropped because he secured this debate. I don't think that's true. So, I'd like to move this on and talk about what I think the problem is, and why my constituents have expressed concerns to me. I've had letters, which I think have come, partly, through some of the hysteria that Neil McEvoy has generated. One letter says: 'Please do not support the dumping of nuclear waste. I believe there is a vote this week. Do not support the dumping of nuclear waste.' This is not nuclear waste - this is moving mud from one part of the channel to the other. To address Llyr Gruffydd's concerns: yes, there is an issue to be talked about - the jurisdiction and devolved powers - but that is not something that we can do anything about right now in this debate. I think it is dangerous that we question, therefore, the views of experts. But what I would say is that there is clear evidence that members of the public have not been reassured, and this is a thread through what every Member who's spoken in this debate has said so far. There is clear evidence that those people, members of the public, who have represented their concerns to AMs have said that they are not convinced by what has been presented. And I think, in this case, Natural Resources Wales - yes, they have fallen far short, and I back the things that Jane Hutt has said. [ Interruption.] No, because I don't think that the Government has the power - . Rhun ap Iorwerth is saying, 'Well, back the motion'. Well, the motion is not in the Government's gift, and that would actually move the Government into unlawful territory. That is not a precedent that we want to set in these circumstances. I disagree with Rhun. I would say that the Government's amendment does effect the reassurance that we need if it is followed through in the way that Jane Hutt has said - [ Interruption.] I won't take another intervention - and I think that is key. The Cabinet Secretary has a duty now, because I don't think the Government has done enough to reassure - the Cabinet Secretary has a duty now to provide that reassurance in her closing speech today. I've had conversations with her about this and I'm confident that she can do that, provided, then, that that information is presented to the public and done in a rigorous form, in which scientists are able to speak directly to members of the public. I will then be able to reassure those constituents who have contacted me.
Welsh: Os yw hynny'n wir, mae'n gwestiwn dilys pam y rhoddodd y gorau i'r achos llys. O ystyried ei fod yn destun cyllido torfol, rwy'n credu y dylem allu gweld y cyngor cyfreithiol a gafodd yn yr achos llys. [ Torri ar draws.] Gwn iddo gael ei ddyfynnu yn y cyfryngau yn dweud iddo roi'r gorau i'r achos llys gan iddo sicrhau'r ddadl hon. Nid wyf yn credu bod hynny'n wir. Felly, hoffwn symud hyn yn ei flaen a siarad am yr hyn y credaf yw'r broblem, a pham y mae fy etholwyr wedi mynegi pryderon wrthyf. Rwyf wedi cael llythyrau, sydd wedi dod, yn rhannol, oherwydd peth o'r hysteria y mae Neil McEvoy wedi'i gynhyrchu. Mae un llythyr yn dweud: Os gwelwch yn dda peidiwch â chefnogi dympio gwastraff niwclear. Rwy'n credu bod pleidlais yn cael ei chynnal yr wythnos hon. Peidiwch â chefnogi dympio gwastraff niwclear. Nid gwastraff niwclear yw hyn - symud mwd o un rhan o'r môr i'r llall yw hyn. I droi at bryderon Llyr Gruffydd: oes, mae yna fater i'w drafod - yr awdurdodaeth a phwerau datganoledig - ond nid yw hynny'n rhywbeth y gallwn wneud unrhyw beth amdano yn y ddadl hon ar hyn o bryd. Credaf felly ei bod beryglus inni gwestiynu barn arbenigwyr. Ond yr hyn a ddywedwn yw bod tystiolaeth glir na thawelwyd meddyliau'r cyhoedd, ac mae'n llinyn drwy'r hyn a ddywedodd pob Aelod sydd wedi siarad yn y ddadl hon hyd yma. Ceir tystiolaeth eglur fod y bobl, aelodau o'r cyhoedd, sydd wedi mynegi eu pryderon wrth ACau wedi dweud nad ydynt wedi'u hargyhoeddi gan yr hyn a gyflwynwyd. Ac yn yr achos hwn, rwy'n credu bod Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru - ydynt, maent yn brin iawn o'r nod, ac rwy'n cefnogi'r pethau a ddywedodd Jane Hutt. [ Torri ar draws.] Na, oherwydd nid wyf yn credu bod gan y Llywodraeth y pŵer - . Mae Rhun ap Iorwerth yn dweud, 'Wel, cefnogwch y cynnig'. Wel, nid mater i'r Llywodraeth yw'r cynnig, ac mewn gwirionedd byddai hynny'n mynd â'r Llywodraeth i diriogaeth anghyfreithlon. Nid yw honno'n gynsail y byddem eisiau ei gosod yn yr amgylchiadau hyn. Rwy'n anghytuno â Rhun. Buaswn yn dweud bod gwelliant y Llywodraeth yn effeithio ar y tawelwch meddwl sydd ei angen arnom os caiff ei weithredu yn y ffordd y mae Jane Hutt wedi dweud - [ T orri ar draws.] Nid wyf am gymryd ymyriad arall - ac rwy'n credu bod hynny'n allweddol. Mae'n ddyletswydd ar Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet bellach, oherwydd nid wyf yn meddwl bod y Llywodraeth wedi gwneud digon i dawelu meddyliau - mae dyletswydd ar Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet yn awr i ddarparu'r sicrwydd hwnnw yn ei haraith gloi heddiw. Rwyf wedi cael sgyrsiau gyda hi am hyn ac rwy'n hyderus y gall hi wneud hynny, cyn belled â bod y wybodaeth honno'n cael ei chyflwyno i'r cyhoedd a gwneud hynny mewn modd trylwyr, a fydd yn galluogi'r gwyddonwyr i siarad yn uniongyrchol â'r cyhoedd. Wedyn, byddaf yn gallu tawelu meddyliau'r etholwyr sydd wedi cysylltu â mi.