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English: If amendment 16 is not agreed to, amendment 24 falls. The question is that amendment 16 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] We'll proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 23, no abstentions, and 27 against. Therefore amendment 16 is not agreed.
Welsh: Os na dderbynnir gwelliant 16, bydd gwelliant 24 yn methu. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 16? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 23, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Felly, gwrthodwyd gwelliant 16.
English: The next group is group 11. These amendments relate to higher education in further education institutions. Amendment 38 is the lead amendment and I call on the Cabinet Secretary to move and speak to the lead amendment and the other amendments.
Welsh: Y grŵp nesaf yw grŵp 11. Mae'r gwelliannau yma yn ymwneud ag addysg uwch mewn sefydliadau addysg bellach. Gwelliant 38 yw'r prif welliant. Galwaf ar yr Ysgrifennydd Cabinet i gynnig y prif welliant ac i siarad i'r gwelliannau.
English: I would urge Members, Presiding Officer, to support amendments 38 and 43. We have been clear all along that the additional learning needs system is intended to apply to young people who are still in school or receiving further education. This system is not intended to apply to young people in higher education. These amendments will make the Bill fully consistent with that policy. They will remove a current inconsistency in the Bill, and therefore in the interests of consistency and fairness, I would urge Members to support these amendments.
Welsh: Rwyf yn annog yr Aelodau, Llywydd, i gefnogi gwelliannau 38 a 43. Rydym ni wedi bod yn glir drwy gydol y broses y bwriedir i'r system anghenion dysgu ychwanegol fod yn berthnasol i bobl ifanc sy'n dal yn yr ysgol neu sy'n derbyn addysg bellach. Nid yw'r system hon wedi'i bwriadu i fod yn berthnasol i bobl ifanc mewn addysg uwch. Bydd y gwelliannau hyn yn gwneud y Bil yn gwbl gyson â'r polisi hwnnw. Byddant yn dileu'r anghysondeb presennol yn y Bil, ac felly er mwyn sicrhau cysondeb a thegwch, rwyf yn annog yr Aelodau i gefnogi'r gwelliannau hyn.
English: I have to say I was surprised by these amendments coming forward at Stage 3, because there was nobody calling for an exclusion - there was nobody calling, at all, in any of the evidence that we received, for learners undertaking higher education courses in further education colleges to be excluded from the new additional learning needs support system. Now, as far as I'm concerned - and the Cabinet Secretary's just stated this aim herself: she wants equality of access to support all learners. She doesn't want to extend this to universities. I'm not asking for it to be extended to universities, the scope of this Bill. But I think within a single institution, there ought to be some equality in terms of access to additional learning needs support. If these amendments pass, you have the potential of two individuals going to a further education institution - one doing a higher education course and not getting any additional learning needs support, and the other doing a further education course and getting all the support that they need. That cannot be right. We need to make sure that there's a level playing field. It is not fair to exclude a group of students from the additional learning needs system just because they happen to be taking a higher education course at a local college, and I think that these amendments are very misguided indeed. Everybody who enrols at a further education institution ought to have equal access to support. You're taking away some of the access to that support with these amendments, and I certainly won't be supporting them.
Welsh: Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud fy mod yn synnu bod y gwelliannau hyn yn cael eu cyflwyno yng Nghyfnod 3, oherwydd nid oedd neb yn galw am eithriad - nid oedd neb yn galw, o gwbl, mewn unrhyw ran o'r dystiolaeth a gawsom, i ddysgwyr sy'n dilyn cyrsiau addysg uwch mewn colegau addysg bellach gael eu heithrio o'r system gymorth newydd ar gyfer anghenion dysgu ychwanegol. Nawr, o'm safbwynt i - ac mae Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet newydd ddatgan y nod hwn ei hun: mae hi eisiau mynediad cyfartal at gymorth ar gyfer pob dysgwr. Nid yw hi eisiau ymestyn hyn i brifysgolion. Nid wyf yn gofyn iddo gael ei ymestyn i brifysgolion, cwmpas y Bil hwn. Ond o fewn sefydliad unigol, rwy'n credu y dylai fod rhywfaint o gydraddoldeb o ran gallu cael cymorth ag anghenion dysgu ychwanegol. Os bydd y gwelliannau hyn yn cael eu pasio, mae gennych y potensial y bydd dau unigolyn yn mynd i sefydliad addysg bellach - un yn gwneud cwrs addysg uwch heb gael unrhyw gymorth ag anghenion dysgu ychwanegol, a'r llall yn gwneud cwrs addysg bellach ac yn cael yr holl gymorth sydd ei angen arno. Ni all hynny fod yn iawn. Mae angen i ni wneud yn siŵr y ceir chwarae teg. Nid yw'n degi eithrio grŵp o fyfyrwyr o'r system anghenion dysgu ychwanegol dim ond oherwydd eu bod yn dilyn cwrs addysg uwch mewn coleg lleol, a chredaf fod y gwelliannau hyn yn annoeth iawn. Dylai pawb sy'n ymrestru mewn sefydliad addysg bellach gael mynediad cyfartal at gymorth. Rydych chi'n cymryd peth o'r gallu hwnnw i gael cymorth oddi arnynt drwy'r gwelliannau hyn, ac yn sicr ni fyddaf i'n eu cefnogi.
English: I share those concerns, I have to say. You say that you were clear all along - my understanding all along was that the focus was on the institution, and not the type of provision that was in place. Certainly, there's been no evidence calling to exclude higher education within further education institutions, and certainly we haven't had the level of debate and discussion that I would have hoped we would have had, had I known that this was coming at this very late stage. Indeed, my understanding was that the Bill wasn't extended to cover higher education in universities because of the governance structures of HE institutions, and since the systems and structures are in place for further education institutions to provide individual development plans, it's illogical, in my view, not to utilise this for the benefit of all learners at the further education institution, regardless of which course they're undertaking. So, I would urge Members to vote against these amendments, because I don't think it's right.
Welsh: Rwy'n rhannu'r pryderon hynny, mae'n rhaid imi ddweud. Rydych chi'n dweud y buoch yn glir o'r cychwyn - fy nealltwriaeth i drwy'r amser oedd mai ar y sefydliad oedd y pwyslais, ac nid ar y math o ddarpariaeth a oedd ar waith. Yn sicr, ni chafwyd tystiolaeth yn galw am eithrio addysg uwch mewn sefydliadau addysg bellach, ac yn sicr nid ydym wedi cael cymaint o ddadl a thrafodaeth ag y byddwn wedi gobeithio eu cael, pe byddwn i'n gwybod y byddai hyn yn dod ar y cam hwyr iawn hwn. Yn wir, fy nealltwriaeth i oedd nad oedd y Bil yn ymestyn i gynnwys addysg uwch mewn prifysgolion oherwydd strwythurau llywodraethu sefydliadau AU, a chan fod y systemau a'r strwythurau wedi'u sefydlu ar gyfer sefydliadau addysg bellach i ddarparu cynlluniau datblygu unigol, mae'n afresymegol, yn fy marn i, i beidio â defnyddio hyn er budd pob dysgwr yn y sefydliad addysg bellach, ni waeth pa gwrs y maen nhw'n ei ddilyn. Felly, rwyf yn annog yr Aelodau i bleidleisio yn erbyn y gwelliannau hyn, oherwydd nid wyf yn meddwl bod hyn yn iawn.
English: Thank you very much indeed, Presiding Officer. I want to make it absolutely clear that this is not about dismissing support for students with ALN who are studying an HE course. I do recognise that, increasingly, FEIs are providing higher education courses, and as we move forward with our reforms, the likelihood is that there will be continuing blurring of the lines between further education institutions and higher education institutions. But we have to recognise that, in making this distinction, there is a separate but different system of support for higher education learners who have additional learning needs. For instance, the disabled students allowance is available for them, and there are separate support mechanisms in place. It has always been the intention that this legislation would refer only to further education and to compulsory education and not to the higher education sector. And if the Bill was to go forward in this way, you would have a different distinction between different types of higher education learners being entitled to different levels of support. It's also important to recognise that because of the significant cross-border flows around higher education, it would make the creation of a separate system of support quite difficult to monitor and to enforce. Therefore, I would ask Members to support the amendments.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Llywydd. Rwyf i eisiau datgan yn gwbl glir nad yw hwn ynghylch gwrthod cymorth ar gyfer myfyrwyr ag anghenion dysgu ychwanegol sy'n astudio cwrs addysg uwch. Rwy'n cydnabod, yn gynyddol, bod sefydliadau addysg bellach yn darparu cyrsiau addysg uwch, ac wrth inni symud ymlaen gyda'n diwygiadau, y tebygolrwydd yw y bydd y gwahaniaeth rhwng sefydliadau addysg bellach a sefydliadau addysg uwch yn parhau i gael ei gymylu. Ond rhaid inni gydnabod, wrth wneud y gwahaniaeth hwn, bod system ar wahân ond gwahanol o gymorth ar gyfer dysgwyr addysg uwch sydd ag anghenion dysgu ychwanegol. Er enghraifft, mae'r lwfans myfyrwyr anabl ar gael ar eu cyfer, ac mae dulliau cymorth ar wahân ar waith. Bu bob amser yn fwriad y byddai'r ddeddfwriaeth hon yn cyfeirio at addysg bellach yn unig ac i addysg orfodol ac nid y sector addysg uwch. Ac os bydd y Bil yn mynd ymlaen yn y modd hwn, byddai gennych wahaniaethu rhwng y gwahanol fathau o ddysgwyr addysg uwch sydd â hawl i lefelau gwahanol o gymorth. Mae hefyd yn bwysig cydnabod oherwydd y llif sylweddol dros y ffin ym maes addysg uwch, y byddai'n gwneud creu system ar wahân o gymorth yn eithaf anodd ei fonitro a'i orfodi. Felly, gofynnaf i'r Aelodau gefnogi'r gwelliannau.
English: The question is that amendment 38 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] We'll therefore proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 32, no abstentions and 19 against. Therefore, amendment 38 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 38? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn, felly, i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 32, neb yn ymatal ac 19 yn erbyn. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 38.
English: The next group is group 12 and the amendments relate to local authority reviews. Amendment 39 is the lead amendment in this group, and I call on the Cabinet Secretary to move the lead amendment and speak to the other amendments.
Welsh: Y grŵp nesaf yw grŵp 12, ac mae'r gwelliannau yma yn ymwneud ag adolygiadau awdurdodau lleol. Gwelliant 39 yw'r prif welliant, a galwaf ar Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet i gynnig y prif welliant ac i siarad i'r gwelliannau.
English: I just want to extend my support for these amendments and also to thank the previous portfolio holder for the opportunity that he gave opposition Members to engage in shaping all of the amendments in relation to the Welsh language in this group and other groups when he appeared before the committee at Stage 2. These are very welcome amendments indeed, and it is absolutely essential, of course, that we have a workforce that can deliver services through the medium of Welsh to those young people who choose to want to access services in that way. We're coming to some amendments in group 13 that emphasise and underscore the paramount importance of making sure that learner choice is at the heart of all decisions when it comes to providing services in Welsh. And that choice, essentially, has to be backed up with a proper workforce plan, with people in the right places at the right time, working with those children and young people who need the additional learning need support. So, I very much welcome amendments 39 and 40 and will be supporting them.
Welsh: Hoffwn estyn fy nghefnogaeth i'r gwelliannau hyn a hefyd diolch i ddeiliad blaenorol y portffolio am y cyfle a roddodd i Aelodau'r gwrthbleidiau i gymryd rhan wrth lunio'r holl welliannau o ran y Gymraeg yn y grŵp hwn a grwpiau eraill pan yr ymddangosodd gerbron y pwyllgor yng Nghyfnod 2. Mae'r rhain yn welliannau i'w croesawu'n fawr yn wir, ac mae'n gwbl hanfodol, wrth gwrs, bod gennym ni weithlu sy'n gallu darparu gwasanaethau drwy gyfrwng y Gymraeg i'r bobl ifanc hynny sy'n dewis defnyddio gwasanaethau yn y ffordd honno. Rydym ni'n dod at rai gwelliannau yng ngrŵp 13 sy'n pwysleisio ac yn tanlinellu pwysigrwydd mawr sicrhau bod dewis y dysgwr wrth wraidd pob penderfyniad ym maes darparu gwasanaethau yn Gymraeg. Ac mae'n rhaid i'r dewis hwnnw, yn y bôn, fod wedi'i ategu gan gynllun gweithlu priodol, gyda phobl yn y lleoedd cywir ar yr adeg gywir, yn gweithio gyda'r plant a'r bobl ifanc hynny sydd angen cymorth ag anghenion dysgu ychwanegol. Felly, rwy'n croesawu gwelliannau 39 a 40 yn fawr a byddaf yn eu cefnogi.
English: I'm also happy to support amendments 39 an 40, and I am grateful to the Government for tabling them. I do have further amendments to this section of the Bill in the next group, which hopefully will also strengthen the situation.
Welsh: Rydw innau hefyd yn hapus i gefnogi gwelliannau 39 a 40, ac rydw i'n ddiolchgar i'r Llywodraeth am eu cyflwyno nhw. Mae gen i welliannau pellach i'r adran yma o'r Bil yn y grŵp nesaf a fydd hefyd, gobeithio, yn fy marn i, yn cryfhau'r sefyllfa hyd yn oed ymhellach.
English: I call on the Cabinet Secretary to respond.
Welsh: Galwaf ar yr Ysgrifennydd Cabinet i ymateb.
English: Presiding Officer, I would just like to note the comments made by the Members in respect of amendments 39 and 40 and welcome their support for them.
Welsh: Llywydd, hoffwn ddim ond nodi'r sylwadau a wnaed gan yr Aelodau am welliannau 39 a 40 a chroesawu eu cefnogaeth iddynt
English: The question is that amendment 39 be agreed. Does any Member object? Therefore amendment 39 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 39? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Felly, derbynnir gwelliant 39.
English: The question is that amendment 40 be agreed. Does any Member object? Therefore amendment 40 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 40? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 40.
English: The next group is group 13 and this group relates to Welsh language provision. Amendment 54 is the lead amendment in this group and I call on Llyr Gruffydd to move and speak to the lead amendment and the other amendments in the group.
Welsh: Y grŵp nesaf, felly, yw grŵp 13. Mae'r grŵp yma'n ymwneud â darpariaeth Gymraeg. Gwelliant 64 yw'r prif welliant, ac rwy'n galw ar Llyr Gruffydd i gynnig y prif welliant ac i siarad am y gwelliant yma a'r gwelliannau eraill.
English: Can I also speak in support of the amendments that have been tabled by Llyr Gruffydd? We did have a Bill that was quite short, actually, in terms of the aspirations of everybody in terms of the Welsh language provisions in it at the outset, but through collaboration with the previous portfolio holder and the current Cabinet Secretary, I think there is a set of amendments here that will go significantly towards ensuring that we have a system that is robust and which has the capacity to meet the demands of learners. Like Llyr, I've experienced déjà vu on many occasions in this Chamber when we've looked at the insufficiency of workforce planning, not just in education services, not just in health services, but in all sorts of other public service areas. We need to crack this nut once and for all, and I think that these amendments - certainly amendment 64 - give us the opportunity to do that with this requirement to assess likely demand and then to ensure that the capacity is there to deliver services to meet that demand. I think it's also obviously absolutely essential that people can access advocacy services in the language of their choice. Very often, when people are trying to articulate arguments, it's difficult to do so in a second language. I think it's absolutely right that, always, we should have the language choice of the learner and of the parents as paramount in these decisions, and amendments 65 and 66 seek to deliver on those principles. So, I urge all Members to support all three amendments in this group.
Welsh: A gaf innau hefyd siarad i gefnogi'r gwelliannau a gyflwynwyd gan Llyr Gruffydd? Roedd gennym ni Fil a oedd yn eithaf byr, mewn gwirionedd, o ran dyheadau pawb am ddarpariaethau'r Gymraeg a oedd ynddo ar y cychwyn, ond drwy gydweithio â deiliad blaenorol y portffolio a'r Ysgrifennydd Cabinet presennol, credaf fod cyfres o welliannau yma a fydd yn cyfrannu'n sylweddol at sicrhau bod gennym system sy'n gadarn ac sydd â'r gallu i ddiwallu anghenion dysgwyr. Fel Llyr, rwyf innau wedi profi déjà vu ar sawl achlysur yn y Siambr hon pan ein bod wedi edrych ar annigonolrwydd cynllunio gweithlu, nid yn unig yn y gwasanaethau addysg, nid yn unig yn y gwasanaethau iechyd, ond mewn pob math o feysydd gwasanaeth cyhoeddus eraill. Mae angen inni ddatrys hyn unwaith ac am byth, ac rwy'n credu bod y gwelliannau hyn - gwelliant 64 yn sicr - yn rhoi'r cyfle i ni wneud hynny gyda'r gofyniad hwn i asesu'r galw tebygol ac yna i sicrhau bod y gallu yno i ddarparu gwasanaethau i ateb y galw hwnnw. Credaf hefyd ei bod yn amlwg yn gwbl hanfodol bod pobl yn gallu cael gwasanaethau eiriolaeth yn eu hiaith o ddewis. Yn aml iawn, pan fydd pobl yn ceisio mynegi dadleuon, mae'n anodd gwneud hynny mewn ail iaith. Credaf ei bod yn hollol iawn, bob amser, y dylai iaith o ddewis y dysgwr, a'r rhieni, fod yn rhan hollbwysig o'r penderfyniadau hyn, ac mae gwelliannau 65 a 66 yn ceisio cyflawni yr egwyddorion hynny. Felly, rwy'n annog bob aelod i gefnogi pob un o'r tri gwelliant yn y grŵp hwn.
English: I call the Cabinet Secretary.
Welsh: Galwaf ar Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet.
English: The question is that amendment 64 be agreed. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] We will therefore proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, no abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, amendment 64 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 64? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Symudwn felly i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 24, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Ac felly, gwrthodwyd y gwelliant.
English: The next group is group 14, relating to advocacy services. Amendment 17 is the lead amendment. I call on Darren Millar to move and speak to the lead amendment and the other amendments in the group. Darren Millar.
Welsh: Grŵp 14 yw'r grŵp nesaf, yn ymwneud â'r gwasanaethau eirioli. Gwelliant 17 yw'r prif welliant. Rydw i'n galw ar Darren Millar i gynnig y prif welliant ac i siarad am hwn a'r gwelliannau eraill. Darren Millar.
English: I'm disappointed by the Government's response. It's very clear that there are times when case friends of children and young people are not parents, and there are also times when the views of parents will conflict sometimes with the views of a case friend, who may have significant influence over a child. And I think, because of that tension, potentially, in the system, it's really important, actually, that parents have the opportunity to have some direct access to independent advocacy services. At the moment, on the Bill, you've suggested that it might add complexity to the Bill in the provision of independent advocacy services. I just can't see that at all. On the one hand, you're saying it adds complexity and on the other hand you're saying that many of the case friends will be parents anyway, already accessing some support through the independent advocacy services that the local authorities will be required to provide. Parents are entitled to information and advice. Why shouldn't they be entitled to advocacy services as well? It doesn't seem to be right that parents are excluded from one part but included in another. So, for consistency's sake, and to ensure that parents have the opportunity also to challenge the system, I think it's essential that parents on the face of the Bill have a right to access these independent advocacy services so that they can challenge the system when they might need to to ensure that their child or young person is getting the services that they need. So, I urge people to support the amendments.
Welsh: Mae ymateb y Llywodraeth yn siomedig i mi. Mae'n amlwg iawn bod adegau pan nad yw cyfeillion achos plant a phobl ifanc yn rhieni, a cheir hefyd adegau pan fydd barn y rhieni yn gwrthdaro weithiau â barn cyfaill achos, a allai fod â dylanwad sylweddol dros blentyn. Ac rwy'n credu, oherwydd y tensiwn hwnnw, o bosibl, yn y system, ei bod yn bwysig iawn, mewn gwirionedd, bod rhieni yn cael cyfle i ddefnyddio gwasanaethau eiriolaeth annibynnol yn uniongyrchol. Ar hyn o bryd, ar y Bil, rydych chi wedi awgrymu y gallai hyn ychwanegu cymhlethdod i'r Bil yn y ddarpariaeth o wasanaethau eiriolaeth annibynnol. Ni allaf weld hynny o gwbl. Ar y naill law, rydych chi'n ddweud ei fod yn ychwanegu cymhlethdod ac ar y llaw arall rydych chi'n dweud y bydd llawer o'r ffrindiau achos yn rhieni beth bynnag, ac eisoes yn gallu cael gafael ar rywfaint o gefnogaeth drwy'r gwasanaethau eiriolaeth annibynnol y bydd yn ofynnol i'r awdurdodau lleol eu darparu. Mae gan rieni hawl i wybodaeth a chyngor. Pam na ddylai fod ganddynt hawl i wasanaethau eiriolaeth hefyd? Nid yw'n ymddangos yn iawn fod rhieni yn cael eu heithrio o un rhan ond yn cael eu cynnwys mewn un arall. Felly, er cysondeb, ac i sicrhau bod rhieni yn cael y cyfle hefyd i herio'r system, credaf ei bod yn hanfodol bod hawl gan rieni, ar wyneb y Bil, i gael defnyddio'r gwasanaethau eiriolaeth annibynnol hyn fel bod modd iddyn nhw herio'r system pan y gallai fod angen iddyn nhw sicrhau bod eu plentyn neu berson ifanc yn cael y gwasanaethau sydd eu hangen arnynt. Felly, rwy'n annog pobl i gefnogi'r gwelliannau.
English: The question is that amendment 17 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 23, no abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, amendment 17 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 17? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. Dau ddeg tri o blaid, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Gwrthodwyd gwelliant 17.
English: The question is that amendment 18 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 23, no abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, amendment 18 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 18? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 23, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn, felly gwrthodwyd gwelliant 18.
English: The question is that amendment 65 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 23, no abstentions, and 27 against. Therefore, amendment 65 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 65? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 23, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Gwrthodwyd gwelliant 65.
English: The question is that amendment 66 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 23, no abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, amendment 66 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 66? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 23, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Gwrthodwyd gwelliant 66.
English: I don't intend to move this.
Welsh: Nid ydw i'n bwriadu cynnig y gwelliant.
English: With the consent of the Assembly, therefore, we won't put amendment 59 to a vote.
Welsh: Gyda chydsyniad y Cynulliad, felly, ni fyddwn ni'n rhoi gwelliant 59 i bleidlais.
English: The question is that amendment 41 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 41 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 41? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 41.