English: Can I thank the Deputy Minister for his statement today? And also my own thanks to Lord Burns and the commissioners for their recommendations also. And I should also like to thank Lord Burns and Peter McDonald from the commission secretariat for attending the EIS committee last week, which I thought was particularly helpful. From my perspective, Deputy Minister, the volume of traffic in Wales is generally increasing year on year. I and my party welcome the recommendations set out in the commission's report; I'll put that on the table very clearly now as well. But I do believe that, of course, the recommendations are no substitute for an M4 relief road - to be clear on that also. It is my view that the recommendations, mainly, shouldn't be carried out in isolation; they should be carried out alongside the creation of an M4 relief road. In evidence last week, the committee heard from Lord Burns, and he referred to some - when he was asked - scepticism amongst stakeholders about whether any of the recommendations would see the light of day. Now, I understand why there would be that scepticism. Do you understand why there would be that scepticism, and have you had that scepticism presented to you also? And what would you say to those who have that sceptical view? In terms of the recommendations, you've set out in your statement today that the delivery unit will look at those in detail and come back to you in terms of priorities. That I understand clear enough, but perhaps you could set out yourself what you feel are the initial early recommendations that you think should be adopted and be worked on yourself, ahead of receiving that from the delivery unit. There was lots of mention about the delivery unit and also the steering group. I think you were quite clear on that, but I just would like you to be a bit clearer in terms of who you are charging to implement the recommendations. There is this talk of both groups; whose job will it be to liaise with the stakeholders that you've mentioned? If you could also tell us a little bit more about the governance of the delivery unit - I know you referred to the chair being appointed - a little bit more about the governance, the funding of that delivery unit and its remit - will they have a remit letter? Because, clearly, it looks like the delivery unit will be a body in place over the next five to 10 years. And also, perhaps, how you will take forward the recommendations on behavioural change in particular, alongside or in parallel with the infrastructure recommendations. There's the Welsh Government's on home working of 30 per cent; clearly, there's been change in travelling patterns during 2020, so how do you feel that the commission has taken those into account in its work? The increase in home working during the pandemic, I don't think should be seen as an excuse for delay on putting these recommendations into practice, I'd hope you would agree with that, but I do agree with Lord Burns when he says that there is breathing space now because of the pandemic, because there isn't that pressure on the road, so it's about using that breathing space correctly, in the right way, so perhaps you could tell me if you agree with that perspective. Increasing behavioural change is a must, and the recommendation with which I have the most concern is the parking levy that's mentioned. My concern would be, although this parking levy would be on employers, not employees, effectively, there'd be a knock-on effect that, in effect, employees would be paying for those charges themselves. I'd welcome further views on that. And finally, in terms of the financial impacts, the First Minister previously indicated that the first call on the Welsh Government for that £1 billion would be for these kinds of improvements. A lot has happened since then, of course, and the First Minister also cited that the costs were a major factor in terms of the recommendations. The commission have said that the costs of the recommendations are going to be somewhere between £600 million and £800 million spend over 10 years. Do you think that represents good value for money? How does that take into account the other needs of the Welsh Government or a future Welsh Government in terms of dealing with the pandemic?
Welsh: A gaf i ddiolch i'r Dirprwy Weinidog am ei ddatganiad heddiw? Ac yn ogystal â hynny hoffwn i fynegi fy niolch innau i Arglwydd Burns a'r comisiynwyr am eu hargymhellion. Ac fe hoffwn i ddiolch hefyd i Arglwydd Burns a Peter McDonald o ysgrifenyddiaeth y comisiwn am fod yn bresennol yn y pwyllgor Economi, Seilwaith, a Sgiliau yr wythnos diwethaf, a oedd, yn fy marn i, yn arbennig o fuddiol. Fel rwyf i'n ei gweld hi, Dirprwy Weinidog, mae cyfradd y traffig yng Nghymru yn cynyddu'n flynyddol yn gyffredinol. Mae fy mhlaid i a minnau'n croesawu'r argymhellion a nodir yn adroddiad y comisiwn; rwyf am fynegi fy marn i'n glir iawn ynglŷn â hynny nawr hefyd. Ond rwy'n credu, wrth gwrs, nad yw'r argymhellion yn disodli ffordd liniaru i'r M4 - i fod yn glir ynglŷn â hynny hefyd. Yn fy marn i, yn bennaf, ni ddylid cyflawni'r argymhellion hyn ar eu pen eu hun; fe ddylid eu cyflawni yn gyfochrog â llunio ffordd liniaru i'r M4. Mewn tystiolaeth yr wythnos diwethaf, fe glywodd y pwyllgor gan Arglwydd Burns, ac fe gyfeiriodd ef - pan ofynnwyd iddo - at rywfaint o amheuaeth ymysg rhanddeiliaid ynghylch a fyddai unrhyw un o'r argymhellion yn gweld golau dydd. Nawr, rwy'n deall pam y gallai amheuaeth fodoli. A ydych chi'n deall pam mae yna amheuaeth, ac a oes yna unrhyw un wedi mynegi'r amheuaeth honno i chi hefyd? A beth fyddech chi'n ei ddweud wrth y rhai sy'n rhannu'r amheuaeth honno? O ran yr argymhellion, rydych chi wedi nodi yn eich datganiad heddiw y bydd yr uned gyflawni yn edrych yn fanwl ar y rhain ac yn dod yn ôl atoch chi o ran y blaenoriaethau. Rwy'n deall hynny'n burion, ond efallai y gallech chithau nodi'r hyn yr ydych chi'n teimlo fydd yr argymhellion cynnar cychwynnol y credwch y dylid eu mabwysiadu a gweithio arnyn nhw eich hun, cyn cael barn gan yr uned gyflawni. Roedd yna lawer o sôn am yr uned gyflawni a'r grŵp llywio hefyd. Rwy'n credu eich bod chi wedi bod yn eithaf eglur ynglŷn â hynny, ond fe hoffwn ichi fod ychydig yn fwy eglur o ran pwy ydych chi'n ystyried sy'n gyfrifol am weithredu'r argymhellion. Mae sôn am y ddau grŵp; pwy fydd yn cysylltu â'r rhanddeiliaid yr ydych chi wedi sôn amdanyn nhw? A allwch chi ddweud ychydig mwy wrthym am lywodraethu'r uned gyflawni hefyd - fe wn ichi gyfeirio at benodi'r cadeirydd - ychydig mwy am lywodraethu, ariannu'r uned gyflawni honno a'i chylch gwaith - a fydd ganddyn nhw lythyr cylch gwaith? Oherwydd, yn amlwg, mae'n debyg y bydd yr uned gyflawni yn gorff a fydd yn weithredol am bump i 10 mlynedd eto. A hefyd, efallai, sut ydych chi am fwrw ymlaen â'r argymhellion ar newid ymddygiad yn benodol, ochr yn ochr neu'n gyfochrog â'r argymhellion ar seilwaith? Ac yna nod Llywodraeth Cymru o 30 y cant yn gweithio o gartref; yn amlwg, fe fu yna newid mewn patrymau teithio yn ystod 2020, felly sut wnaeth y comisiwn roi ystyriaeth i'r rhain yn ei waith, yn eich barn chi? Ni ddylai'r cynnydd mewn gweithio o gartref yn ystod y pandemig gael ei ystyried yn esgus, yn fy marn i, i ohirio gweithredu'r argymhellion hyn, ac fe fyddwn i'n gobeithio y byddech chi'n cytuno â hynny. Ond rwy'n cytuno ag Arglwydd Burns pan ddywed ef fod yna amser i anadlu nawr yn sgil y pandemig, oherwydd nid yw'r ffordd mor brysur ag y bu, ac felly mae'n golygu defnyddio'r amser hwn i anadlu mewn modd priodol, mewn ffordd briodol, ac felly efallai y gwnewch chi ddweud wrthyf a ydych chi'n cytuno â'r safbwynt hwnnw. Mae'n hanfodol cynyddu'r newid mewn ymddygiad, a'r argymhelliad sy'n peri'r pryder mwyaf i mi yw'r ardoll ar barcio sy'n cael ei grybwyll. Er mai'r cyflogwyr, nid y gweithwyr, fyddai'n gyfrifol am dalu'r ardoll hon, rwy'n pryderu am effaith ganlyniadol hyn ar y gweithwyr a fyddai, i bob pwrpas, yn talu am yr ardollau hynny eu hunain. Fe fyddwn i'n croesawu rhagor o sylwadau am hynny. Ac yn olaf, o ran yr effeithiau ariannol, roedd y Prif Weinidog yn nodi o'r blaen mai'r alwad gyntaf ar Lywodraeth Cymru ar gyfer y £1 biliwn hwnnw fyddai gwneud gwelliannau o'r mathau hyn. Mae llawer wedi digwydd ers hynny, wrth gwrs, ac fe nododd y Prif Weinidog hefyd fod costau yn ystyriaeth bwysig o ran yr argymhellion. Mae'r comisiwn wedi dweud y byddai costau'r argymhellion yn rhywbeth rhwng £600 miliwn a £800 miliwn o wariant dros 10 mlynedd. A ydych chi'n credu bod hynny'n cynrychioli gwerth da am arian? Sut wnaiff hynny roi ystyriaeth i anghenion eraill gan Lywodraeth Cymru neu Lywodraeth Cymru yn y dyfodol o ran ymdrin â'r pandemig?