English: Thank you very much, and that's an inspired idea of, 'Plant a tree in 2023 and another in 2024'. I will shamelessly take that off you, I think, Mike Hedges - I think that's brilliant. I will take that away and work up something. Thank you very, very much; that's an excellent suggestion. In terms of a forestry commission-type body, perhaps I was too coded in my response, but I did say looking at the Irish example that we will need to learn from a body that adds value across the whole supply chain. They not only have far higher rates of tree planting than we do, but they've got a much better system for monetising that, and using it for economic advantage and generating local wealth from it. And I think we need to look at that, too. One of the things I think we need to think about - and I didn't want to do this in this short, sharp exercise, because we can't be flippant about it - but to look at where the best set of functions lie in this, and whether NRW is the right body. I think we have set them up to stumble and fail sometimes by asking them to be both the regulator and the promoter, and I think that is extremely difficult for any body to do. As I say, they're often criticised for how slow and bureaucratic it is, but they are doing things we've asked them to do, and part of what this function through this exercise is is to take some of that off them, to make it easier for them so that they're not always getting it in the neck, but to put their effort into doing things that are going to help, which is what they want to do, to be fair. But I think there is an open question about what is the right body to do that co-ordinating function. It may not be NRW, but I want to reach that conclusion thoughtfully and patiently.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, ac mae hwnna'n syniad ysbrydoledig, 'Plant a tree in 2023 and another in 2024'. Fe gymeraf hwnna oddi arnoch chi heb gywilydd, rwy'n credu, Mike Hedges - rwy'n credu bod hynny yn wych. Af i ffwrdd a chreu rhywbeth gyda hwnna. Diolch yn fawr iawn, iawn; mae'n awgrym ardderchog. O ran corff yn debyg i'r comisiwn coedwigaeth, efallai fy mod i wedi siarad mewn gormod o god yn fy ymateb, ond fe wnes i ddweud wrth edrych ar enghraifft Iwerddon y bydd angen i ni ddysgu gan gorff sy'n ychwanegu gwerth ar draws y gadwyn gyflenwi gyfan. Yn ogystal â bod â chyfraddau plannu coed llawer uwch na ni, mae ganddyn nhw system well o lawer ar gyfer moniteiddo hynny hefyd, a'i ddefnyddio er budd economaidd a chreu cyfoeth lleol ohono. Ac rwy'n credu bod angen i ni edrych ar hynny hefyd. Un o'r pethau rwy'n credu y mae angen i ni feddwl amdano - ac nid oeddwn i'n dymuno gwneud hyn yn yr ymarfer byr, cryno hwn, oherwydd ni allwn fod yn wamal yn ei gylch - ond i edrych i weld ble mae'r casgliad gorau o swyddogaethau yn hyn o beth, ac ai CNC yw'r corff iawn. Rwy'n credu ein bod ni wedi eu sefydlu i faglu a methu weithiau trwy ofyn iddyn nhw fod yn rheoleiddiwr ac yn hyrwyddwr, ac rwy'n credu bod hynny yn anodd iawn i unrhyw gorff ei wneud. Fel y dywedais i, maen nhw'n cael eu beirniadu yn aml am fod mor araf a biwrocrataidd, ond maen nhw'n gwneud pethau yr ydym ni wedi gofyn iddyn nhw eu gwneud, a rhan o'r hyn y mae'r swyddogaeth hon drwy'r ymarfer hwn yn bwriadu ei wneud yw tynnu rhywfaint o hynny oddi arnyn nhw, i'w gwneud yn haws iddyn nhw fel nad ydyn nhw bob amser dan y lach, ond i ymdrechu i wneud pethau sy'n mynd i helpu, sef yr hyn y maen nhw'n dymuno ei wneud, i fod yn deg. Ond rwy'n credu bod cwestiwn agored ynghylch beth yw'r corff iawn i wneud y swyddogaeth gydgysylltu honno. Efallai nad Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru yw hwnnw, ond rwyf i'n awyddus i ddod i'r casgliad hwnnw mewn modd meddylgar ac amyneddgar.