English: I would say that it depends where you are in Wales, because you should be standing in your own area - that's where the concept of cynefin is going to be crucial to the development of the new curriculum. If you feel that you are confident in your own area, as those children in the special school felt, that they understood something about where they were in that school, then you will look outwards and you will see that there's a church that is consecrated to St David, St Teilo, or whoever, but you'll also see that there's a chapel from the eighteenth century that is relevant. Perhaps that chapel will have been rebuilt a few times, and that will be relevant. So, I wouldn't want to say that all pupils have to do something specific, for example - . Well, perhaps they would need to look at the development of the modern world, to some extent, and the Protestant Reformation is part of that, and in particular in relation to the Welsh language, but also the development of the economy following Columbus and the gold that came into Europe and how that had an impact on the European economy, and that was one of the factors that led to the Protestant Reformation. So you have to be looking from where your school is located, and looking outwards. And now teachers have the freedom to devise a curriculum that meets those needs, and use the resources available in their own departments. But, you also referred, David, to the fact that a number of teachers come to Wales to teach history without knowledge about Wales. Many teachers know very little about the locality of their school, because they live somewhere else or because they were brought up somewhere else. And so there is a challenge here and there's a great opportunity here also. But, as you can see, I'm stepping back from stating that everyone has to study Llywelyn ein Llyw Olaf. Now that'll be more relevant to some areas than others. In the area where I live, Llywelyn ein Llyw Olaf did not have much of an impact, but Llywelyn Bren, a prince in that area, did have a big impact on the region's history.
Welsh: Mi fyddwn i'n dweud ei bod hi'n dibynnu ble ŷch chi yng Nghymru, achos dylech chi fod yn sefyll yn eich bro eich hunan - dyna lle mae'r cysyniad o gynefin yn mynd i fod yn allweddol i ddatblygiad y cwricwlwm newydd. Os ydych chi'n teimlo eich bod chi'n hyderus yn eich bro eich hunan, fel roedd y plant yn yr ysgol arbennig yna yn teimlo, eu bod nhw'n deall rhywbeth am ble oedden nhw yn yr ysgol yna, yna byddwch chi'n edrych mas ac yn gweld bod yna eglwys wedi ei chysegru i Dewi Sant, Teilo, neu bwy bynnag, ond byddwch chi efallai'n gweld bod yna gapel o'r ddeunawfed ganrif sydd yn berthnasol. Bydd y capel yna wedi cael ei ailadeiladu cwpwl o weithiau; mae hynny'n berthnasol. Felly, rwy'n teimlo byddwn i ddim yn licio dweud bod yn rhaid i bob disgybl wneud, er enghraifft - . Wel, efallai byddai'n rhaid inni edrych rhywfaint ar ddatblygiad y byd modern, ac mae'r Diwygiad Protestannaidd yn rhan o hynny, o safbwynt y Gymraeg, ond hefyd mae datblygiad yr economi yn dilyn Columbus a'r llif o aur ac arian yn dod i mewn i Ewrop a oedd yn effeithio ar economi Ewrop yn un o'r ffactorau a arweiniodd at y Diwygiad Protestannaidd. So, rwy'n teimlo bod eisiau ichi edrych o le ŷch chi mewn ysgol ac edrych mas. Ac mae gan athrawon nawr y rhyddid i lunio cwricwlwm sydd yn ateb gofynion ac adnoddau eu hadrannau nhw eu hunain. Ond roeddech chi hefyd wedi cyfeirio at y ffaith, David, fod nifer o athrawon yn dod i Gymru i ddysgu hanes heb wybodaeth am Gymru. Mae nifer o athrawon sydd ddim yn gwybod llawer am yr ardal lle mae eu hysgol nhw oherwydd eu bod yn byw yn rhywle arall ac wedi cael eu magu rhywle arall. Felly, mae yna her yn fan hyn ac mae yna gyfle mawr yn fan hyn, ond byddwn i, fel ŷch chi'n gweld, yn camu nôl o'r syniad o ddweud bod yn rhaid i bob un wneud Llywelyn ein Llyw Olaf. Bydd e'n fwy perthnasol i rai ardaloedd na'i gilydd. Yn yr ardal lle dwi'n byw, doedd Llywelyn ein Llyw Olaf ddim wedi effeithio llawer, ond roedd Llywelyn Bren, tywysog yn yr ardal yna, wedi effeithio llawer ar hanes yr ardal.