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English: No, those were very much personal thoughts. Also, it's an obvious personal thought of mine that I would like to see professional rugby in the north of Wales, and have wished to see that happen for many years. I'm now having to be at arm's length from myself and that particular view, but that will be no surprise to you. But what I would say is that there has been no discussion, but there has been very close involvement by our senior officials in ensuring that we were fully informed of the implications of what the Welsh Rugby Union is discussing. But, obviously, there would have to be a - . We have had a discussion, I should say, with Nigel Short of the pro rugby board and others, so we are aware of their intentions, but it's not at this stage that Welsh Government would be involved in any of the consequences. But I think, as I indicated in the earlier discussion, there might be a call on our resources, as we have done in the past, for investing in infrastructure in areas that would benefit from that in order to develop not just rugby but other sports. For example, we have invested substantially, as I indicated, in 3G facilities and in all-weather pitches in the north, and we've done it in Wrexham as well as in Eirias Park.
Welsh: Na, roedd y rheini'n sicr yn syniadau personol. Hefyd, ac mae hwn yn amlwg yn syniad personol, hoffwn weld rygbi proffesiynol yng ngogledd Cymru, ac rwyf wedi dymuno gweld hynny'n digwydd ers blynyddoedd lawer. Rwyf bellach yn gorfod cadw hyd braich oddi wrthyf fy hun a'r safbwynt penodol hwnnw, ond ni fydd hynny'n syndod i chi. Ond hoffwn ddweud nad oes unrhyw drafodaethau wedi bod, ond mae ein huwch-swyddogion wedi bod yn gweithio'n agos iawn i sicrhau ein bod yn hollol ymwybodol o oblygiadau'r hyn y mae Undeb Rygbi Cymru yn ei drafod. Ond yn amlwg, byddai'n rhaid cael - . Rydym wedi cael trafodaeth, dylwn ddweud, gyda Nigel Short o'r bwrdd rygbi proffesiynol ac eraill, felly rydym yn ymwybodol o'u bwriadau, ond nid oes gan Lywodraeth Cymru ran mewn unrhyw ganlyniadau ar y cam hwn. Ond fel y nodais yn y drafodaeth gynharach, credaf efallai y bydd angen defnyddio ein hadnoddau, fel rydym wedi'i wneud yn y gorffennol, i fuddsoddi mewn seilwaith mewn ardaloedd a fyddai'n elwa o hynny er mwyn datblygu rygbi yn ogystal â chwaraeon eraill. Er enghraifft, rydym wedi buddsoddi'n sylweddol, fel y nodais, mewn cyfleusterau 3G a chaeau pob tywydd yn y gogledd, ac rydym wedi gwneud hynny yn Wrecsam yn ogystal ag ym Mharc Eirias.
English: Thank you very much for expressing that so forcefully, David. Certainly, it is our intention as a Government to ensure that any programmes that involve community engagement, any programme that develops women's rugby, under 20 rugby, youth rugby - all those commitments are commitments that have been made to us by the WRU, centrally, and it is the WRU, therefore, that is responsible at the moment that that commitment should be delivered. And I will certainly speak with them about this because, clearly, if there are to be any differences, any developments in the structure of the regions, whereas that matter is a matter for regions to discuss, where commitments have being made and public funding has been invested through Sport Wales into the Welsh Rugby Union, then I can assure you that we will pursue the constant delivery of that commitment.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr am fynegi hynny mewn ffordd mor rymus, David. Yn sicr, rydym, fel Llywodraeth, yn bwriadu sicrhau y bydd unrhyw raglenni sy'n cynnwys ymgysylltiad cymunedol, unrhyw raglenni sy'n datblygu rygbi merched, rygbi o dan 20 oed, rygbi ieuenctid - mae'r holl ymrwymiadau hynny'n ymrwymiadau a wnaed i ni gan Undeb Rygbi Cymru, yn ganolog, ac Undeb Rygbi Cymru, felly, sy'n gyfrifol am gyflawni'r ymrwymiad hwnnw ar hyn o bryd. A byddaf yn sicr yn siarad gyda hwy am hyn oherwydd, yn amlwg, os bydd unrhyw wahaniaethau, unrhyw ddatblygiadau yn strwythur y rhanbarthau, er mai mater i'r rhanbarthau ei drafod yw hwnnw, lle gwnaed ymrwymiadau a lle buddsoddwyd arian cyhoeddus yn Undeb Rygbi Cymru drwy Chwaraeon Cymru, gallaf roi sicrwydd i chi y byddwn yn parhau i sicrhau bod yr ymrwymiad hwnnw'n cael ei gyflawni.
English: We all know who the members of the team are. We don't need them rehearsed here.
Welsh: Mae pob un ohonom yn gwybod pwy yw aelodau'r tîm. Nid oes angen eu hailadrodd yma.
English: And as the Llywydd will remember, when Wales beat England in Twickenham for the first time in 20 years in 2008, 13 out of the 15 players that day were Ospreys. So, I'll just leave it there in terms of - . But it would be good to reflect this overwhelming community concern about a potentially devastating merger - on, off, whatever - in any consultations you have with the WRU. And in particular, the long-term concern has always been there's an overwhelming lack of money in Wales, compared to France, compared to England. We know that. It's what to do about that. And why does it happen now during a vitally important six nations championship? Diolch yn fawr.
Welsh: Ac fel y bydd y Llywydd yn cofio, pan drechodd Cymru dîm Lloegr yn Twickenham am y tro cyntaf mewn 20 mlynedd yn 2008, roedd 13 o'r 15 chwaraewr ar y cae y diwrnod hwnnw yn chwarae i'r Gweilch. Felly, rwyf am ei gadael yn y fan honno o ran - . Ond byddai'n werth i chi fynegi'r pryder cymunedol mawr hwn ynglŷn â chynlluniau dinistriol posibl i uno - boed wedi'u tynnu'n ôl ai peidio - mewn unrhyw ymgynghoriadau a gewch gydag Undeb Rygbi Cymru. Ac yn arbennig, y pryder hirdymor bob amser yw bod diffyg arian aruthrol yng Nghymru o gymharu â Ffrainc, o gymharu â Lloegr. Rydym yn gwybod hynny. Beth y gallwn ei wneud ynglŷn â hynny yw'r cwestiwn. A pham fod hyn yn digwydd yn awr yn ystod pencampwriaeth chwe gwlad hanfodol bwysig? Diolch yn fawr.
English: Thank you, again, for that forceful expression. I made the comparison with Ireland precisely for the reasons you've been pursuing in that discussion. We need to have a serious look about what structure is required to make rugby in Wales, at whatever level - at the community level, at the youth level, at the women's level, which I obviously strongly encourage, but also at the international level, the six nations - we are now doing really well at that level. Obviously, I wish them well in Scotland - not always an easy place to take a Grand Slam march through, as it were. But, because there has been such clear concern expressed by Members in the Chamber - I'm well aware of the public concern - I will make sure that I will seek an early opportunity to speak formally with the Welsh Rugby Union about this. But I think it's best if I wait until the discussions that are currently going on are resolved, if they are to be resolved, and I hope that they will be resolved very soon.
Welsh: Diolch i chi, unwaith eto, am y cyfraniad grymus hwnnw. Gwneuthum gymhariaeth ag Iwerddon am yr union resymau a godwyd gennych yn y drafodaeth honno. Mae angen i ni edrych o ddifrif ar ba strwythur sydd ei angen i wneud rygbi yng Nghymru, ar ba lefel bynnag - ar lefel y gymuned, ar lefel ieuenctid, ar lefel menywod rwy'n eu hannog yn gadarn yn amlwg, ond hefyd ar y lefel ryngwladol, y chwe gwlad - rydym yn gwneud yn dda iawn ar y lefel honno yn awr. Yn amlwg, dymunaf yn dda iddynt yn yr Alban - nad yw bob amser yn lle hawdd i chwarae gêm yn yr ymgyrch am y Gamp Lawn. Ond oherwydd bod Aelodau yn y Siambr wedi mynegi'u pryderon mor glir - rwy'n ymwybodol iawn o bryder y cyhoedd - rwyf am sicrhau fy mod yn cael cyfle yn fuan i siarad yn ffurfiol ag Undeb Rygbi Cymru ynglŷn â'r mater hwn. Ond credaf y byddai'n well i mi aros hyd nes y bydd y trafodaethau sy'n mynd rhagddynt ar hyn o bryd yn cael eu datrys, os cânt eu datrys, a gobeithiaf y bydd hynny'n digwydd yn fuan iawn.
English: Can I associate myself with everything said by Dai Lloyd and David Rees? What I would like also to say, of course, is that the seventy-fifth biggest company in the SA region is the Ospreys. The eighty-fourth biggest company in the SA region is the Scarlets. We're talking about major employers. Many of my constituents have been worried, since it was talked about, that they would not have a job. And relocating to north Wales to be a ticket salesperson, I would suggest, is not really on the cards, and Llanelli will have more than they'll need if there's a merger anyway. So, what I'm saying is: will the Welsh Government look at this from an economic point of view, as opposed to a sporting point of view - and my interest in sport is well known, I think, to almost everybody in this room, but, from an economic point of view, and also the economic benefit that my constituency gets, having the Liberty stadium there, from events taking place there, from the rugby matches taking place there, the 8,000 to 10,000 people who turn up, who bring money into the area for the benefit of our local economy? Our local economy in Swansea cannot afford to lose jobs, it cannot afford to lose people coming in and spending money. Will the Welsh Government look at this from the economic point of view? I'm very upset from a sports view, and very upset, as David Rees is, from the point of view of providing support within the community, but what I'm more worried about is people losing their jobs, and a loss of employment and a loss of money in my constituency.
Welsh: A gaf fi gytuno â phopeth a ddywedodd Dai Lloyd a David Rees? Hoffwn ychwanegu hefyd, wrth gwrs, fod y Gweilch yn safle 75 ar y rhestr o'r cwmnïau mwyaf yn rhanbarth SA. Mae'r Scarlets yn safle 84 ar y rhestr o'r cwmnïau mwyaf yn rhanbarth SA. Rydym yn sôn am gyflogwyr mawr. Mae llawer o fy etholwyr wedi bod yn poeni, ers i hyn gael ei drafod, na fydd ganddynt swydd. A buaswn yn awgrymu nad yw adleoli i ogledd Cymru i fod yn werthwr tocynnau yn debygol mewn gwirionedd, a bydd gan Lanelli fwy nag y byddant eu hangen os byddant yn uno beth bynnag. Felly, yr hyn a ddywedaf yw: a wnaiff Llywodraeth Cymru edrych ar hyn o safbwynt economaidd, yn hytrach nag o safbwynt chwaraeon - ac mae fy niddordeb mewn chwaraeon yn hysbys iawn, rwy'n credu, i bron bob un ohonoch yn yr ystafell hon, ond o safbwynt economaidd, yn ogystal â'r budd economaidd i fy etholaeth, o gael stadiwm Liberty yno, o'r digwyddiadau sy'n cael eu cynnal yno, o'r gemau rygbi sy'n cael eu cynnal yno, yr 8,000 i 10,000 o bobl sy'n mynychu, sy'n dod ag arian i'r ardal er budd ein heconomi leol? Nid yw ein heconomi leol yn Abertawe yn gallu fforddio colli swyddi, ni all fforddio colli'r bobl sy'n ymweld â'r lle ac yn gwario arian. A wnaiff Llywodraeth Cymru edrych ar hyn o safbwynt economaidd? Rwy'n ddigalon iawn o safbwynt chwaraeon, ac yn ofidus iawn, fel y mae David Rees, o safbwynt darparu cymorth o fewn y gymuned, ond rwy'n poeni mwy am bobl yn colli eu gwaith, a cholli swyddi a cholli arian yn fy etholaeth.
English: Thank you very much for that. I can confirm that the official who has been acting on my behalf in this area clearly understands the economic implications, because the head of sport is also involved in regional development - not exactly in the same area, but in south Wales. So, I will re-emphasise in further discussions, both with other officials in Government, and with him, and in my forthcoming discussions with the Welsh Rugby Union, that these matters will be properly addressed. And this of course relates to what David asked earlier about the social programme and the community programme. Rugby is a form of culture, as well as a major sport in Wales, clearly, and therefore we must look at all aspects of what we do. Because, on the one hand, we can't talk about the benefit of sport to the community and yet allow the community to be denuded of some of that direct benefit when changes like this are being contemplated. I only wish that these sorts of discussions - as many Members have echoed - should be happening at another time, and not during the heights of the rugby season at this moment.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am hynny. Gallaf gadarnhau bod y swyddog a fu'n gweithredu ar fy rhan yn y maes hwn yn amlwg yn deall y goblygiadau economaidd, oherwydd mae'r pennaeth chwaraeon hefyd yn chwarae rhan mewn datblygu rhanbarthol - nid yn yr un ardal yn union, ond yn ne Cymru. Felly, rwyf am ail-bwysleisio, mewn trafodaethau pellach gyda swyddogion eraill yn y Llywodraeth, a chydag ef, ac yn fy nhrafodaethau i ddod ag Undeb Rygbi Cymru, y dylid rhoi sylw priodol i'r materion hyn. Ac mae'n ymwneud wrth gwrs â'r hyn a ofynnodd David yn gynharach mewn perthynas â'r rhaglen gymdeithasol a'r rhaglen gymunedol. Mae rygbi yn fath o ddiwylliant, yn ogystal ag un o'r prif chwaraeon yng Nghymru, yn amlwg, ac felly mae'n rhaid i ni edrych ar bob agwedd ar yr hyn a wnawn. Oherwydd, ar y naill law, ni allwn sôn am fudd chwaraeon i'r gymuned a chaniatáu ar yr un pryd i'r gymuned gael ei hamddifadu o beth o'r budd uniongyrchol hwnnw pan fo newidiadau fel hyn yn cael eu hystyried. Hoffwn pe bai'r mathau hyn o drafodaethau - fel y mae llawer o'r Aelodau wedi nodi - yn digwydd ar adeg arall, ac nid ar anterth y tymor rygbi ar hyn o bryd.
English: The next item is the 90-second statements, but no statements were accepted today.
Welsh: Yr eitem nesaf yw'r datganiadau 90 eiliad, ond ni chafodd unrhyw ddatganiad ei dderbyn heddiw.
English: Therefore, we move to our next item, which is the motion to vary the order of consideration for Stage 3 amendments to the Public Services Ombudsman (Wales) Bill. I call on a member of the Business Committee to move the motion - Rhun ap Iorwerth.
Welsh: Felly, yr eitem ganlynol yw'r cynnig i amrywio'r drefn ystyried ar gyfer gwelliannau Cyfnod 3 y Bil Ombwdsman Gwasanaethau Cyhoeddus (Cymru). Dwi'n galw ar aelod o'r Pwyllgor Busnes i wneud y cynnig - Rhun ap Iorwerth.
English: I formally move.
Welsh: Rwy'n cynnig hynny yn ffurfiol.
English: The proposal therefore is to agree the motion. Does any Member object? The motion is therefore agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn felly yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Derbynnir y cynnig, felly, yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36.
English: The next debate is the debate on the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee report on the inter-institutional relations agreement between the National Assembly for Wales and the Welsh Government. I call on the committee Chair to move the motion - Mick Antoniw.
Welsh: Y ddadl nesaf yw'r ddadl ar adroddiad y Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol ar y cytundeb cysylltiadau rhyng-sefydliadol rhwng Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru a Llywodraeth Cymru. Galwaf ar Gadeirydd y pwyllgor i wneud y cynnig - Mick Antoniw.
English: Thank you, Llywydd. I'm pleased to open this discussion. It was important to the committee that this agreement that has been reached, which is constitutional in nature, relating to the scrutiny of the Assembly, was made available on the floor of this Chamber so that Members became aware of it, members of the public became aware of it, because, in the difficult times that we are operating at the moment, transparency and scrutiny are extremely important, and this is a unique agreement designed to try and deal with that.
Welsh: Diolch i chi, Lywydd. Rwy'n falch o agor y drafodaeth hon. Roedd yn bwysig i'r pwyllgor fod y cytundeb hwn a gyrhaeddwyd, sy'n gyfansoddiadol o ran ei natur, ac yn ymwneud â chraffu ar y Cynulliad, wedi'i gyflwyno ar lawr y Siambr fel bod yr Aelodau'n dod yn ymwybodol ohono, fel bod aelodau o'r cyhoedd yn dod yn ymwybodol ohono, oherwydd, yn y cyfnod anodd rydym yn gweithredu ynddo ar hyn o bryd, mae tryloywder a chraffu yn eithriadol o bwysig, ac mae hwn yn gytundeb unigryw a gynlluniwyd i geisio mynd i'r afael â hynny.
English: Thank you very much, Llywydd, and I'm pleased to confirm that the Welsh Government does support the motion and am pleased to report that we have worked very closely with the committee to develop this agreement before us. Now, before making any cormorants about the agreement itself, I want to set this in a broader context - the challenges that face us as a result of Brexit and to say, once again, what the Welsh Government's position is in terms of the way in which the relationship between Governments should change. Now, in some months we will be celebrating the twentieth anniversary of the first Plenary meeting of the National Assembly. The Governments and the legislatures that are devolved are now a stable and permanent part of the constitution of the UK. But, the fact that the UK is leaving the European Union leads to totally new challenges for the relationship between the countries and to the constitutional arrangements of the UK. We have to remember and consider that the systems in place were already creaking long before the vote to leave the EU. There's no way for them to sustain the additional pressure that the Brexit process has placed upon them.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd, a dwi'n falch o gadarnhau bod Llywodraeth Cymru yn cefnogi'r cynnig ac yn falch o adrodd ein bod ni wedi gweithio'n agos iawn gyda'r pwyllgor i ddatblygu'r cytundeb sydd o'n blaenau ni. Nawr, cyn gwneud unrhyw sylwadau am y cytundeb ei hun, dwi am osod hyn yng nghyd-destun ehangach yr heriau sy'n ein hwynebu ni o ganlyniad i Brexit a dweud, unwaith eto, beth yw safbwynt Llywodraeth Cymru ar y ffordd y dylai'r berthynas rhwng Llywodraethau newid. Mewn rhai misoedd, byddwn ni'n dathlu 20 mlwyddiant Cyfarfod Llawn cyntaf y Cynulliad Cenedlaethol. Mae'r Llywodraethau a'r deddfwriaethau datganoledig bellach yn rhan sefydlog a pharhaol o gyfansoddiad y Deyrnas Unedig, ond mae'r ffaith bod y Deyrnas Unedig yn ymadael â'r Undeb Ewropeaidd yn arwain at heriau cwbl newydd i'r berthynas rhwng y gwledydd ac i drefniadau cyfansoddiadol y Deyrnas Unedig. A rhaid cofio ac ystyried bod y systemau sydd yn eu lle eisoes yn gwegian, ymhell cyn y bleidlais i ymadael â'r Undeb Ewropeaidd. Does, yn bendant, dim modd iddyn nhw gynnal y pwysau ychwanegol y mae proses Brexit wedi'i rhoi arnyn nhw.
English: The Welsh Government is committed to securing transparency in its relations with other Governments in the UK. We agree that providing the information noted in this agreement will assist the Assembly in its crucial role of scrutinising the work of Welsh Ministers with their counterparts across the UK. We welcome the fact that this agreement recognises and respects the need for confidential negotiations between Governments. We are committed to sharing as much information as is appropriate with the Assembly, but we must allow space for confidential and private discussion and negotiations, and I know that Members understand that. We believe that this agreement has succeeded in securing the right balance between the need for transparency, to assist the Assembly to carry out its scrutiny function, as well as Government responsibilities for its relations with other administrations within the UK, and we welcome the fact that we have recognised the practicalities that will lead to decisions on how and when we can share information. So, I'm pleased to say that the Government is supporting this motion today. Thank you.
Welsh: Mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi ymrwymo i sicrhau tryloywder yn ei pherthynas gyda Llywodraethau eraill yn y Deyrnas Unedig. Rŷm ni'n cytuno y bydd darparu'r wybodaeth sydd wedi ei nodi yn y cytundeb hwn yn helpu'r Cynulliad yn ei rôl hollbwysig yn craffu ar waith Gweinidogion Cymru gyda'u swyddogion cyfatebol ar draws y Deyrnas Unedig. Rŷm ni'n croesawu'r ffaith bod y cytundeb hwn yn cydnabod ac yn parchu'r angen am drafodaethau cyfrinachol rhwng Llywodraethau. Rŷm ni wedi ymrwymo i rannu cymaint o wybodaeth ag sy'n briodol gyda'r Cynulliad, ond mae angen caniatáu lle ar gyfer trafodaethau preifat a chyfrinachol, ac rwy'n gwybod bod yr Aelodau yn deall hynny. Rŷm ni'n credu bod y cytundeb hwn wedi llwyddo i sicrhau'r cydbwysedd cywir rhwng yr angen am dryloywder, i helpu'r Cynulliad i gyflawni ei rôl craffu, a chyfrifoldebau'r Llywodraeth dros ei pherthynas gyda gweinyddiaethau eraill y Deyrnas Unedig, ac rydym ni'n croesawu'r ffaith ein bod ni'n cydnabod y materion ymarferol sy'n dylanwadu ar sut a phryd y gellir rhannu'r wybodaeth. Felly, rŷm ni'n falch o gadarnhau unwaith eto bod y Llywodraeth yn cefnogi'r cynnig heddiw. Diolch.
English: We now move on to item 8, which is the Plaid Cymru debate on building social housing in Wales, and I call on Leanne Wood to move the motion.
Welsh: Symudwn ymlaen at eitem 8, sef dadl Plaid Cymru ar adeiladu tai cymdeithasol yng Nghymru, a galwaf ar Leanne Wood i wneud y cynnig.
English: - and which of these proposals will attract opposition? Did you want to say something?
Welsh: - a pha un o'r cynigion fydd yn ennyn gwrthwynebiad? A oeddech am ddweud rhywbeth?
English: Yes, thank you. Even if the 106 agreement is very good at the beginning, what you often or nearly always see is the developer coming back and saying, 'I'm not going to make enough money with this 106 agreement - can we change it? Can we reduce the number of houses that are affordable and can we not build these things, because we can't afford it, because our profit will probably be down to £75,000 per property?'
Welsh: Oeddwn, diolch. Hyd yn oed os yw'r cytundeb 106 yn dda iawn ar y dechrau, yr hyn a welwch yn aml, neu bron bob amser, yw'r datblygwr yn dod yn ôl a dweud, 'Nid wyf yn mynd i wneud digon o arian gyda'r cytundeb 106 hwn - a gawn ei newid? A gawn ni leihau nifer y tai fforddiadwy ac a gawn ni beidio ag adeiladu'r pethau hyn, oherwydd ni allwn ei fforddio, oherwydd mae'n debyg y bydd ein helw i lawr i £75,000 yr eiddo?'
English: First, can I welcome this debate? It's the second debate we've had on housing since Christmas. And can I just say how pleased I am to start talking about housing? Because I think it's one of the most important things. After food and drink, the next important thing for people's life is housing. So, I think it really is important that we get around to talking about this. Hopefully, the next debate will be on a Welsh Government house-building strategy, involving the building of large numbers of council houses.
Welsh: Yn gyntaf, a gaf fi groesawu'r ddadl hon? Dyma'r ail ddadl i ni ei chael ar dai ers y Nadolig. A gaf fi ddweud pa mor falch wyf fi o ddechrau sôn am dai? Oherwydd credaf ei fod yn un o'r pethau pwysicaf. Ar ôl bwyd a diod, y peth pwysig nesaf i fywydau pobl yw tai. Felly, rwy'n credu ei bod yn wirioneddol bwysig inni ddechrau siarad am hyn. Gobeithio y bydd y ddadl nesaf yn ymwneud â strategaeth adeiladu tai Llywodraeth Cymru, i gynnwys adeiladu nifer fawr o dai cyngor.