English: That's one of the reasons for UKIP's relative success, I would say, actually - the realisation of that. It's certainly one of the reasons, I think, why Donald Trump is going to be the next President of the United States - the feeling of people who've been left behind by globalisation - and that's not something that is going to be very easy to deal with. But I want to just concentrate upon this question of what austerity means and what, therefore, is our freedom of action to raise tax revenue to spend on all the good things that we would like to spend on. The fact of the matter is that the national debt was doubled in the 13 years that Gordon Brown was either Chancellor of the Exchequer or Prime Minister, but, unfortunately, it was doubled again within the five years that George Osborne was Chancellor of the Exchequer. From a national debt of £350 billion in 1997, it stands this year at £1.6 trillion, and now that's 85 per cent of our GDP. So, the previous Chancellor set a goal of balancing the budget by 2015, then it was moved to 2020, and the current Chancellor has now abandoned that target altogether. The debt interest that is being paid, even at current rates of interest, is £50 billion a year. That's money that could be better spent on the health service or any of the other good things that we would like to see the money spent on, but if we carry on borrowing under the illusion that there's some great money tree out there from which we can pick off the fruits, then I'm afraid that debt interest is going to grow as a proportion of Government spending and there'll be even bigger squeezes on health and social services.
Welsh: Byddwn yn dweud mai dyna un o'r rhesymau dros lwyddiant cymharol UKIP mewn gwirionedd - gwireddu hynny. Rwy'n meddwl ei fod yn sicr yn un o'r rhesymau pam mai Donald Trump fydd Arlywydd nesaf yr Unol Daleithiau - teimlad pobl sydd wedi cael eu gadael ar ôl yn sgil globaleiddio - ac nid yw hynny'n rhywbeth sy'n mynd i fod yn hawdd iawn ymdrin ag ef. Ond rwyf eisiau canolbwyntio ar y cwestiwn hwn o'r hyn y mae caledi yn ei olygu a beth, felly, yw ein rhyddid i weithredu i godi refeniw treth i'w wario ar yr holl bethau da y byddem yn hoffi gwario arnynt. Y ffaith amdani yw bod y ddyled genedlaethol wedi dyblu yn y 13 mlynedd roedd Gordon Brown naill ai'n Ganghellor y Trysorlys neu'n Brif Weinidog, ond yn anffodus, dyblodd eto yn ystod y pum mlynedd roedd George Osborne yn Ganghellor y Trysorlys. O ddyled genedlaethol o £350 biliwn yn 1997, eleni mae'n £1.6 triliwn, ac yn awr mae hynny'n 85 y cant o'n cynnyrch domestig gros. Felly, gosododd y Canghellor blaenorol nod i fantoli'r gyllideb erbyn 2015, yna cafodd ei symud i 2020, ac mae'r Canghellor presennol bellach wedi troi ei gefn ar y targed hwnnw'n gyfan gwbl. Mae'r llog ar y ddyled sy'n cael ei dalu, hyd yn oed ar y cyfraddau llog presennol, yn £50 biliwn y flwyddyn. Dyna arian y gellid ei wario'n well ar y gwasanaeth iechyd neu unrhyw un o'r pethau da eraill y byddem yn hoffi gweld yr arian yn cael ei wario arnynt, ond os ydym yn parhau i fenthyca o dan yr argraff fod yna goeden arian fawr allan yno i ni allu casglu ei ffrwythau, yna mae gennyf ofn fod y llog ar y ddyled yn mynd i dyfu fel cyfran o wariant y Llywodraeth a bydd gwasgfa hyd yn oed yn fwy ar iechyd a gwasanaethau cymdeithasol.