English: Oh, good grief. I'm not sure where to begin, other than to say I've already outlined what happened in late July. The Member seems to think that you can probably calculate with a Casio calculator and an abacus, in a few seconds, for what is an immensely burdensome project. It cannot be done overnight, and as I've already said, normally - normally - Department for Transport officials will engage with us a year ahead. On this occasion, we had three days' notice. During the period between late July and today, my officials had to scrutinise the data. They had to make an abundance of calculations, they had to assess the data, and it then became apparent that the data, as my friend and colleague Jenny Rathbone has highlighted, clearly did not support the case for a relief road as the previous data - what I believe to be more accurate data - supported the case. Given that, we then secured legal advice on the likelihood of the public inquiry being adjourned or, indeed, the case being accepted for building a relief road. The answer that we had was that an adjournment is probable, and the case simply isn't there. Now, the Member said, 'Why have you ignored the evidence, and why don't you get building?' Well, the fact is, it's that the Department for Transport has given us evidence that can't be ignored, because if we do, it won't get built. My point is: we now need to get the data right, because the Department for Transport has clearly not done that. And I don't believe - as I say, it's not a conspiracy, I think it's probably incompetence. But the fact of the matter is that the UK Government have really done a disservice not just to this place but to the people of Wales - to the 100,000 plus people who use the M4 on a daily basis. Now, I know that the Member clearly has lengthy delays on a daily basis in using the M4, but so do the tens of thousands of people who are hoping that this local public inquiry will begin on 1 November and who regrettably now will have to wait until potentially March before it gets going. But that is as a consequence of the Department for Transport not engaging with us as they should have done and has they have done in the past. And surely - surely - given the scale of this project, given the publicity that this project has had, the Department for Transport should have recognised that it needed to give Welsh Government more than three days' notice.
Welsh: Wel, wir. Nid wyf yn siŵr ble i ddechrau, ar wahân i ddweud fy mod eisoes wedi amlinellu'r hyn a ddigwyddodd ddiwedd mis Gorffennaf. Mae'n ymddangos bod yr Aelod o'r farn y gallech chi yn ôl pob tebyg wneud cyfrifiadau gyda chyfrifiannell Casio ac abacus, a hynny mewn ychydig eiliadau, ar gyfer prosiect sy'n hynod feichus. Ni ellir gwneud hyn dros nos, ac fel rwyf eisoes wedi dweud, fel arfer - fel arfer - bydd swyddogion yr Adran Drafnidiaeth yn ymgysylltu â ni flwyddyn ymlaen llaw. Ar yr achlysur hwn, rhoddwyd tridiau o rybudd i ni. Yn ystod y cyfnod rhwng diwedd mis Gorffennaf a heddiw, roedd yn rhaid i'm i swyddogion graffu ar y data. Roedd yn rhaid iddynt wneud llwyth o gyfrifiadau, roedd yn rhaid iddynt asesu'r data, ac yna daeth yn amlwg nad oedd y data, fel yr amlygodd fy ffrind a'm cydweithiwr Jenny Rathbone, yn cefnogi'r achos ar gyfer ffordd liniaru fel y gwnaeth y data blaenorol - data mwy cywir yn fy marn i - gefnogi'r achos. O ystyried hynny, ceisiwyd cyngor cyfreithiol o ran y tebygolrwydd y caiff yr ymchwiliad cyhoeddus ei ohirio neu, yn wir, y caiff yr achos ei dderbyn ar gyfer adeiladu ffordd liniaru. Yr ateb a gawsom oedd bod gohiriad yn debygol, ac yn syml nad oedd achos i'w gael. Nawr, dywedodd yr Aelod, 'Pam wnaethoch chi anwybyddu'r dystiolaeth, a pham na ddechreuwch chi adeiladu?' Wel, y gwir amdani yw bod yr Adran Drafnidiaeth wedi rhoi tystiolaeth i ni na ellir ei hanwybyddu, oherwydd os ydym ni'n ei hanwybyddu, ni chaiff ei adeiladu. Fy mhwynt i yw: mae angen i ni nawr sicrhau bod y data'n gywir, gan nad yw'r Adran Drafnidiaeth wedi gwneud hynny yn amlwg. Ac nid wyf yn meddwl - fel rwy'n dweud, nid cynllwyn ydyw, rwy'n credu, fwy na thebyg, mai anallu ydyw. Ond y gwir amdani yw bod Llywodraeth y DU mewn gwirionedd wedi gwneud cam nid yn unig â'r lle hwn, ond â phobl Cymru - â'r 100,000 o bobl a mwy sy'n defnyddio'r M4 o ddydd i ddydd. Nawr, gwn fod yr Aelod mewn tagfeydd am amser hir yn ddyddiol wrth ddefnyddio'r M4, ond felly hefyd y mae'r degau o filoedd o bobl sy'n gobeithio y bydd yr ymchwiliad cyhoeddus lleol hwn yn dechrau ar 1 Tachwedd ac a fydd yn awr, yn anffodus, yn gorfod aros tan fis Mawrth o bosibl cyn ei fod yn bwrw ymlaen. Ond mae hynny o ganlyniad i'r Adran Drafnidiaeth yn peidio ag ymgysylltu â ni fel y dylent fod wedi gwneud ac fel y maent wedi gwneud yn y gorffennol. A dylai'r Adran Drafnidiaeth yn sicr - yn sicr - o ystyried maint y prosiect hwn, o ystyried y cyhoeddusrwydd a roddwyd i'r prosiect hwn, fod wedi cydnabod bod angen iddi roi mwy na thridiau o rybudd i Lywodraeth Cymru.