English: I would actually like to just pay some tribute to Gary Doherty for what he has attempted to do. Clearly, when anyone takes on such a responsible role, they do so with the hope that they are going to make those necessary improvements. And I think it is rather coincidental that Gary came to a health board in Wales from an English health board setting, and that it's to an English health board service that he has gone back to - whether that speaks some volumes. But we now have a situation in the Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board where it is being described as being in crisis by the very front-line nursing staff to patients. I have, on regular occasions, constituents coming to me, and they say, 'Janet, we are frightened. We are frightened about our actual chances when we go into hospital.' That's a very profound statement, when people haven't got confidence in that health board. We have, as Jack Sargeant has quite rightly pointed out, fantastic front-line nursing staff, and we have fantastic consultants that are there, but the frustration, the chaos, the mismanagement, continues after five years. Now, Mark Polin, the chairman, is correct to acknowledge that performance in some areas is not acceptable. And I think, really, if any Member has taken you to task over Betsi Cadwaladr health board, I hold myself up there as being one of them, because we are on the front line, on a Friday, in our constituency offices, and it's heartbreaking to witness some of the cases that we see, the people that we talk to. These are individuals whose lives are being affected by the poor performance of this board. And it breaks my heart, I'll be honest with you. Now, this is despite the fact, Minister, that this particular health board has no less - and I gained this from an FOI - than 63 highly-paid directors. Sixty-three directors. Sixty six per cent of patients were seen within the critical four-hour period in December. And, last month, there were around 2,900 patients waiting for orthopaedic procedures at Ysbyty Gwynedd, with a waiting time of around, approximately, 114 weeks. Compare this to England, where the waiting time is 18 weeks. And shockingly, only yesterday, from an FOI - . I asked a simple question: how many planned operations were cancelled due to non-clinical reasons between September and December? If I was to say, 'Hazard a guess' - do you know, Members, do you know how many planned operations were cancelled due to non-clinical reasons between September and December? The figure is 2,463, and some of those are my constituents. Now, when the health board was placed in special measures in June 2015 - five years ago, nearly - one of the areas of concern was leadership and governance. Those leadership and governance concerns are still there now. Now, when I've spoken to senior people within the board - and it's a bit embarrassing, really - they tell me that it is, in fact, your Government's interventions that are causing some of the issues as to why they cannot actually get back on track. So, will you be looking again at your own model of special measures and Government interventions to see whether you are in fact supporting them, or whether you are hindering the process? According to the improvement framework, it is asked that leaders understand the challenges, and ensure relevant expertise and capability across the system are addressing the barriers. Now, I put an FOI in on how much has it cost so far: £83 million for these special measures Government interventions. How many operations could that have actually paid for? How many staff, new nursing staff, could that have employed? I'm going to be honest with you now: the brand - Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board is now a toxic brand. And I feel very, very sorry for the memory and for the family members of Betsi Cadwaladr. Because to have my name associated with such failure - if I was alive, but certainly long gone - is not a legacy that I think is one that you as a Welsh Government Minister should be proud of. Now -
Welsh: Hoffwn dalu teyrnged i Gary Doherty am yr hyn y mae wedi ceisio'i wneud. Yn amlwg, pan fydd unrhyw un yn ymgymryd â rôl mor gyfrifol, maent yn gwneud hynny yn y gobaith y byddant yn sicrhau'r gwelliannau angenrheidiol. A chredaf ei bod yn gyd-ddigwyddiad braidd fod Gary wedi dod i fwrdd iechyd yng Nghymru o leoliad bwrdd iechyd yn Lloegr, a'i fod wedi mynd yn ôl i wasanaeth bwrdd iechyd yn Lloegr - efallai fod hynny'n siarad cyfrolau. Ond mae gennym sefyllfa bellach ym Mwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Betsi Cadwaladr lle mae'r staff nyrsio ar y rheng flaen yn ei ddisgrifio i gleifion fel bwrdd sydd mewn argyfwng. Mae etholwyr yn dod ataf yn rheolaidd ac yn dweud, 'Janet, rydym yn ofni. Rydym yn ofni beth fydd yn digwydd i ni pan fyddwn yn mynd i'r ysbyty.' Mae hynny'n ddweud mawr, pan nad oes gan bobl hyder yn y bwrdd iechyd. Fel y nododd Jack Sargeant yn gwbl gywir, mae gennym staff nyrsio gwych ar y rheng flaen, ac mae gennym feddygon ymgynghorol gwych, ond mae'r rhwystredigaeth, yr anhrefn, y camreoli, yn parhau ar ôl pum mlynedd. Nawr, mae Mark Polin, y cadeirydd, yn iawn i gydnabod nad yw perfformiad mewn rhai meysydd yn dderbyniol. A chredaf, mewn gwirionedd, os oes unrhyw Aelod wedi'ch dwyn i gyfrif mewn perthynas â bwrdd iechyd Betsi Cadwaladr, fy mod yn ystyried fy hun yn un ohonynt, gan ein bod ninnau ar y rheng flaen, ar ddydd Gwener, yn ein swyddfeydd etholaethol, ac mae'n dorcalonnus gweld rhai o'r achosion a welwn, y bobl rydym yn siarad â hwy. Dyma unigolion y mae perfformiad gwael y bwrdd hwn yn effeithio ar eu bywydau. Ac mae'n torri fy nghalon a dweud y gwir. Nawr, mae hyn er gwaethaf y ffaith, Weinidog, fod gan y bwrdd iechyd hwn - a chefais y wybodaeth hon drwy gais rhyddid gwybodaeth - 63 o gyfarwyddwyr ar gyflogau uchel. Chwe deg tri o gyfarwyddwyr. Cafodd 66 y cant o gleifion eu gweld o fewn y cyfnod tyngedfennol o bedair awr ym mis Rhagfyr. A'r mis diwethaf, roedd oddeutu 2,900 o gleifion yn aros am driniaethau orthopedig yn Ysbyty Gwynedd, gydag amser aros o oddeutu 114 wythnos. Cymharwch hyn â Lloegr, lle mae'r amser aros yn 18 wythnos. Ac yn gywilyddus, ddoe ddiwethaf, drwy gais rhyddid gwybodaeth - . Gofynnais gwestiwn syml: faint o lawdriniaethau a gynlluniwyd a gafodd eu canslo oherwydd rhesymau anghlinigol rhwng mis Medi a mis Rhagfyr? Pe bawn yn dweud, 'Dyfalwch' - a ydych chi'n gwybod, Aelodau, a ydych chi'n gwybod faint o lawdriniaethau a gynlluniwyd a gafodd eu canslo oherwydd rhesymau anghlinigol rhwng mis Medi a mis Rhagfyr? Y ffigur yw 2,463, ac mae rhai o'r rheini'n etholwyr i mi. Nawr, pan roddwyd y bwrdd iechyd mewn mesurau arbennig ym mis Mehefin 2015 - bum mlynedd yn ôl, bron - un o'r meysydd pryder oedd arweinyddiaeth a llywodraethu. Mae'r pryderon hynny ynghylch arweinyddiaeth a llywodraethu yn dal i fod yno. Nawr, pan siaradais ag uwch aelodau o'r bwrdd - ac mae hyn yn embaras braidd, a dweud y gwir - maent yn dweud wrthyf mai ymyriadau eich Llywodraeth chi, mewn gwirionedd, sy'n achosi rhai o'r rhesymau pam na allant fynd yn ôl ar y trywydd iawn. Felly, a wnewch chi edrych eto ar eich model eich hun o fesurau arbennig ac ymyriadau'r Llywodraeth i weld a ydych yn eu cefnogi mewn gwirionedd, neu a ydych yn amharu ar y broses? Yn ôl y fframwaith gwella, gofynnir i arweinwyr ddeall yr heriau, a sicrhau bod arbenigedd a gallu perthnasol ar draws y system yn mynd i'r afael â'r rhwystrau. Nawr, gwneuthum gais rhyddid gwybodaeth i weld faint y mae hynny wedi'i gostio hyd yn hyn: £83 miliwn am yr ymyriadau mesurau arbennig gan y Llywodraeth. Faint o lawdriniaethau y gallai hynny fod wedi talu amdanynt? Faint o staff, staff nyrsio newydd, y gallai hynny fod wedi'u cyflogi? Rwyf am fod yn onest gyda chi nawr: y brand - mae Bwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Betsi Cadwaladr bellach yn frand gwenwynig. Ac mae'n flin iawn gennyf dros y diweddar Betsi Cadwaladr a'i theulu. Oherwydd nid wyf yn credu bod cael fy enw'n gysylltiedig â methiant o'r fath - pe bawn i'n fyw, ond yn sicr pe bawn wedi hen fynd - yn waddol y dylech chi fel Gweinidog Llywodraeth Cymru fod yn falch ohoni. Nawr -