English: Well, I thank Caroline Jones for her contribution, and I'd just like to make it absolutely plain that the business of normal parenting will continue as it is now. There will be absolutely no reason why parents can't deal with a struggling child, that they can protect them from danger, that they may have to make sure that they go in a car seat and you've got to struggle with them to do it - just the nature of being a parent, none of that is affected. So, please, I want Caroline Jones to be absolutely sure - and everybody in this Chamber to understand - that nothing like that is going to be affected by this law. What is being affected by this law is physical punishment. It is using a physical means to punish a child, and there are many, many other ways that you can punish a child, and, in fact, children themselves have said things that may be more effective, such as withdrawing privileges or stopping you watching the television or having your phone taken from you, which seems to be the worst thing of all. So, there are lots of things that you can actually do, and that's what children themselves, from the feedback, have said we can do. 'Parenting. Give it Time.', which I think you referred to, is a way of helping parents, though we don't have any statistics from there, but all the research that we've commissioned and the Government has commissioned have shown that a large majority of actual parents are in support, basically, of this legislation. I think the academic who you referred to is an isolated academic. We have a whole group of academics for protection of children who regularly make statements about how supportive they are of moving towards this legislation, and have actually campaigned for years with many of the other bodies that have campaigned for years. And then, finally, a change in the law, by itself, I absolutely agree, will not achieve everything we want to achieve. It's got to be done with the support and with the information, but a change in the law does signal to the whole of society here in Wales that we don't accept physical punishment. We don't want that to be the sort of way that we operate in Wales, and I'm really proud that we're able to bring this legislation forward. We're with the tide. Scotland is doing it at the same time; Ireland has done it. I have no doubt that England will do it soon.
Welsh: Wel, diolch i Caroline Jones am ei chyfraniad, a hoffwn ei gwneud hi'n gwbl glir y bydd rhianta arferol yn parhau fel y mae yn awr. Ni fydd rheswm o gwbl pam na all rhieni ymdrin â phlentyn trafferthus, na'u hamddiffyn rhag perygl, na gwneud yn siŵr ei bod yn sownd mewn sedd car ar ôl ychydig o drafferth - dyna natur bod yn rhiant, effeithir dim ar hynny. Felly, os gwelwch yn dda, hoffwn i Caroline Jones fod yn gwbl sicr - ac i bawb yn y Siambr hon ddeall - na fydd y ddeddf hon yn effeithio ar unrhyw beth fel hynny. Yr hyn y mae'r ddeddf hon yn effeithio arni yw cosb gorfforol. Mae'n ymwneud â defnyddio dull corfforol i gosbi'r plentyn, a cheir llawer iawn iawn o ffyrdd eraill o gosbi plentyn, ac, yn wir, mae plant eu hunain wedi crybwyll pethau a allai fod yn fwy effeithiol, megis tynnu breintiau neu eich atal rhag gwylio'r teledu neu gymryd eich ffôn oddi arnoch ac mae'n ymddangos mai hynny yw'r peth gwaethaf oll. Felly, mae llawer o bethau y gallwch eu gwneud mewn gwirionedd, a dyna allwn ni eu gwneud yn ôl adborth y plant eu hunain. Mae 'Rhianta. Rhoddwch amser iddo', y credaf ichi gyfeirio ato, yn ffordd o helpu rhieni, er nad oes gennym ni unrhyw ystadegau o'r fan honno, ond mae'r holl ymchwil yr ydym ni wedi ei gomisiynu ac y mae'r Llywodraeth wedi ei gomisiynu yn dangos bod y mwyafrif helaeth o rieni yn cefnogi'r ddeddfwriaeth hon yn y bôn. Rwy'n credu bod yr academydd y gwnaethoch chi gyfeirio ato yn academydd ar ei ben ei hun. Mae gennym ni grŵp llawn o academyddion ar gyfer amddiffyn plant sy'n datgan yn rheolaidd pa mor gefnogol ydyn nhw i'r symud tuag at y ddeddfwriaeth hon, ac mewn gwirionedd maen nhw wedi ymgyrchu am flynyddoedd gyda llawer o'r cyrff eraill sydd wedi bod yn ymgyrchu ers blynyddoedd. Ac yna, yn olaf, cytunaf yn llwyr na fydd y newid yn y ddeddf, ar ei ben ei hun yn cyflawni popeth yr ydym ni eisiau ei gyflawni. Mae'n rhaid ei wneud gyda'r gefnogaeth a'r wybodaeth, ond mae newid yn y ddeddf yn arwydd i'r gymdeithas gyfan yma yng Nghymru nad ydym ni'n derbyn cosb gorfforol. Nid ydym ni eisiau i hynny fod yn ddull yr ydym ni'n ei weithredu yng Nghymru, ac rwy'n falch iawn ein bod ni'n gallu cyflwyno'r ddeddfwriaeth hon. Rydym ni'n mynd gyda'r llanw. Mae'r Alban yn gwneud hyn ar yr un pryd; mae Iwerddon wedi gwneud hyn. Nid oes amheuaeth gennyf y bydd Lloegr yn ei wneud yn fuan.