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English: Item 8 on the agenda this afternoon is a debate on the External Affairs and Additional Legislation Committee report, 'Changes to freedom of movement after Brexit - the implications for Wales', and I call on the Chair of that committee to move the motion, David Rees.
Welsh: Eitem 8 ar yr agenda y prynhawn yma yw dadl ar adroddiad y Pwyllgor Materion Allanol a Deddfwriaeth Ychwanegol, 'Newidiadau i ryddid i symud ar ôl Brexit - goblygiadau i Gymru', a galwaf ar Gadeirydd y pwyllgor hwnnw i gyflwyno'r cynnig, David Rees.
English: This week is my last as a member of the external affairs committee, and I would like to take this opportunity to thank the Chair, David Rees, and all other members of the committee for the welcome and friendship that I've experienced over the past year, as we have scrutinised various elements of the Welsh Government's and UK Government's plans in terms of exiting the European Union. One aspect of the work of the committee that made an impression on me from the very outset was that, although we were taking an international overview - despite that, the impact of the policies, the legislation and the decisions do have an impact at a local level, and, in many cases, are unique and individual. This was particularly true with the inquiry that we're discussing today, namely changes to freedom of movement after Brexit. I would like to associate myself with the comments that have already been made, in terms of thanking the individuals and institutions that contributed to our work, particularly the EU citizens who participated in our focus group. When the 2016 referendum happened, there wasn't a huge amount of clarity as to the meaning of that vote. Many now believe that people did vote in order to reduce immigration, although there is no robust evidence that this is the case. So, it is a cause of sadness for me that we have to lose those four freedoms that can't be shared.
Welsh: Yr wythnos hon yw fy olaf fel aelod o'r pwyllgor materion allanol, a hoffwn gymryd y cyfle hwn i ddiolch i'r Cadeirydd, David Rees, a phob aelod arall o'r pwyllgor am y croeso a'r cyfeillgarwch dros y flwyddyn ddiwethaf, wrth inni graffu ar wahanol elfennau o gynlluniau Llywodraethau Cymru a'r Deyrnas Gyfunol o ran ymadael â'r Undeb Ewropeaidd. Un agwedd ar waith y pwyllgor wnaeth argraff arnaf i o'r ddechrau oedd, er taw cymryd trosolwg rhyngwladol oedden ni - serch hynny, mae effaith y polisïau, y ddeddfwriaeth a phenderfyniadau yn rhai lleol, ac, mewn sawl achos, yn unigol. Roedd hyn yn enwedig yn wir o ran yr ymchwiliad rydyn ni'n ei drafod heddiw, sef y newidiadau i ryddid i symud wedi inni adael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd. Hoffwn gysylltu fy hun â'r sylwadau sydd eisoes wedi cael eu gwneud o ran diolch i'r bobl a'r sefydliadau wnaeth gyfrannu at ein gwaith, yn enwedig y dinasyddion o'r Undeb Ewropeaidd wnaeth gymryd rhan yn ein grŵp ffocws. Pan ddigwyddodd y refferendwm yn 2016, doedd dim llawer o eglurder ynghylch ystyr y bleidlais. Mae nifer bellach yn credu bod pobl wedi pleidleisio er mwyn lleihau mewnfudo, er nad oes tystiolaeth gadarn fod hyn yn wir ymhob achos. Felly, mae e'n destun tristwch inni ein bod yn gorfod colli'r pedwar rhyddid nad oes modd eu rhannu.
English: Can I say at the outset that we shall be supporting this motion? However, I have to point out that I believe every party in this Chamber has expressed its belief and support for those EU citizens now working in the UK, and how they should be allowed - no, even encouraged - to stay, and that that especially applies to those living and working in Wales. So, this debate on the external affairs report will add little or nothing to what has been said and agreed in this Chamber before. What we must not forget - [ Interruption.]
Welsh: A gaf fi ddweud ar y dechrau y byddwn yn cefnogi'r cynnig hwn? Fodd bynnag, rhaid i mi nodi fy mod yn credu bod pob plaid yn y Siambr wedi mynegi ei chred a'i chefnogaeth i ddinasyddion yr UE sy'n gweithio yn y DU ar hyn o bryd, a sut y dylid caniatáu iddynt - na, eu hannog hyd yn oed - i aros, ac mae hynny'n arbennig o berthnasol i'r rhai sy'n byw ac yn gweithio yng Nghymru. Felly, ni fydd y ddadl hon ar yr adroddiad materion allanol yn ychwanegu fawr ddim os o gwbl at yr hyn sydd wedi cael ei ddweud a'i gytuno yn y Siambr o'r blaen. Yr hyn na ddylem ei anghofio - [ T orri ar draws.]
English: I thank the Member for taking the intervention. I had to get up because I've been sitting in this Chamber and I've heard comments about 'foreigners' in this Chamber. Do you agree that that type of comment doesn't help the agenda when we're talking to people? They are a part of our communities, they are a part of our society, and for them to be talked about as 'foreigners' is inappropriate.
Welsh: Diolch i'r Aelod am dderbyn yr ymyriad. Roedd yn rhaid i mi godi oherwydd fy mod i wedi bod yn eistedd yn y Siambr ac wedi clywed sylwadau am 'estroniaid' yn y Siambr hon. A ydych yn cytuno nad yw'r math hwnnw o sylw'n helpu'r agenda pan fyddwn yn siarad â phobl? Maent yn rhan o'n cymunedau, maent yn rhan o'n cymdeithas, ac mae siarad amdanynt fel 'estroniaid' yn amhriodol.
English: I have been a strong supporter of freedom of movement for the whole of my adult life. I remember as a teenager being at the border posts that used to exist in our common European home. I have a stamp on a passport from France. I remember having to show my passport to cross the rivers and roads of our continent. One of the greatest gifts that the European Union gave us was to remove those borders and to remove those border posts, to remove that need to demonstrate that we were unable to move from one piece of turf to another.
Welsh: Rwyf wedi cefnogi'r rhyddid i symud yn frwd ar hyd fy oes fel oedolyn. Fel person ifanc yn fy arddegau, rwy'n cofio sefyll wrth yr arolygfeydd ffin a arferai fodoli yn ein cartref Ewropeaidd cyffredin. Mae gennyf stamp ar basbort o Ffrainc. Rwy'n cofio gorfod dangos fy mhasbort i groesi afonydd a ffyrdd ein cyfandir. Un o'r rhoddion mwyaf a gawsom gan yr Undeb Ewropeaidd oedd dileu'r ffiniau hynny a chael gwared ar yr arolygfeydd ffin, a dileu'r angen i ddangos na allem symud o un darn o dir i'r llall.
English: You're a racist.
Welsh: Rydych chi'n hiliol.
English: Diolch, Llywydd. I'm sorry, Alun, but it's people like you who actually stir division where there is none. As a member of the External Affairs and Additional Legislation Committee, I'd like to take the opportunity to thank the committee support staff for their help and assistance throughout this report. It's also important to recognise the contribution of the EU citizens and those from other nations who have settled here in Wales who took the time to come and speak to the committee, who added real value and insight also to this report. Finally, I'd like to thank all the stakeholders for their contribution and, of course, a thank you to David Rees as Chair of the committee for all his hard work. During the EU referendum, immigration and the lack of control was a clear concern for a large part of the public, whether you like it or not. But it is also very important to understand the concerns were mainly to do with a broken immigration system and not total prejudice towards those who come from EU nation states or otherwise. As I said before, it's people and speeches like that that actually create division where there is none. In gathering evidence for this report, the committee held two focus groups, and from those who attended it is clear that the UK Government must really do more to communicate with citizens from other nations on how they apply for their settled status and provide the reassurance needed. I really do hope that today's news about the £30,000 threshold being lowered or even removed actually comes into practice. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch, Lywydd. Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, Alun, ond pobl fel chi sy'n ysgogi'r rhaniadau mewn gwirionedd lle nad oes rhai. Fel aelod o'r Pwyllgor Materion Allanol a Deddfwriaeth Ychwanegol, hoffwn fanteisio ar y cyfle i ddiolch i staff cymorth y pwyllgor am eu help a'u cymorth drwy gydol yr adroddiad hwn. Mae hefyd yn bwysig cydnabod cyfraniad dinasyddion yr UE a'r rhai o wledydd eraill sydd wedi ymgartrefu yma yng Nghymru ac a roddodd o'u hamser i ddod i siarad â'r pwyllgor, gan ychwanegu gwerth a chrebwyll go iawn hefyd i'r adroddiad. Yn olaf, hoffwn ddiolch i'r holl randdeiliaid am eu cyfraniad ac wrth gwrs, diolch i David Rees fel Cadeirydd y pwyllgor am ei holl waith caled. Yn ystod refferendwm yr UE, roedd mewnfudo a diffyg rheolaeth yn bryder amlwg i ran helaeth o'r cyhoedd, pa un a ydych yn hoffi hynny ai peidio. Ond mae hefyd yn bwysig iawn deall bod y pryderon yn ymwneud yn bennaf â system fewnfudo sydd wedi torri ac nid rhagfarn lwyr yn erbyn y rhai sy'n dod o genedl-wladwriaethau'r UE neu fel arall. Fel y dywedais o'r blaen, pobl ac areithiau fel hynny sy'n creu rhaniad lle nad oes un mewn gwirionedd. Wrth gasglu tystiolaeth ar gyfer yr adroddiad hwn, cynhaliodd y pwyllgor ddau grŵp ffocws, ac o'r rhai a fynychodd, mae'n glir fod yn rhaid i Lywodraeth y DU wneud mwy i gyfathrebu â dinasyddion o wledydd eraill ynglŷn â sut y maent yn gwneud cais am eu statws preswylydd sefydlog a darparu'r sicrwydd sydd ei angen. Rwy'n gobeithio'n fawr y bydd y newyddion heddiw ynglŷn â gostwng neu hyd yn oed ddileu'r trothwy o £30,000 yn cael ei wireddu. Diolch.
English: The Brexit Minister to contribute to the debate - Jeremy Miles.
Welsh: Y Gweinidog Brexit i gyfrannu at y ddadl - Jeremy Miles.
English: Thank you, Llywydd. May I begin by welcoming the report and the vast amount of evidence that was gathered during the inquiry? I'd also like to thank everyone for their contributions.
Welsh: Diolch, Llywydd. A gaf i ddechrau drwy groesawu adroddiad y pwyllgor a'r dystiolaeth helaeth a gasglwyd yn ystod yr ymchwiliad? Hoffwn i hefyd ddiolch i bawb am eu cyfraniad.
English: Most contributions, at any rate, were thoughtful and constructive.
Welsh: Roedd y rhan fwyaf o'r cyfraniadau, beth bynnag, yn feddylgar ac yn adeiladol.
English: We have used evidence to back up our challenges to the UK Government about the nature of their proposals, particularly the current proposal for a selective approach to future immigration based on skills and salary with the potential threshold of £30,000 that many Members have referred to. The report that we commissioned the Welsh Centre for Public Policy to undertake last year on the impact of migration in Wales after Brexit underlined the damage that a salary threshold would cause to Wales, and if the press speculation that Members have referred to on the dropping of the salary requirements are correct, the Welsh Government would welcome that development.
Welsh: Rydym wedi defnyddio tystiolaeth i gefnogi ein heriau i Lywodraeth y DU ynglŷn â natur eu cynigion, yn enwedig y cynnig presennol ar gyfer dull detholus o ymdrin â mewnfudo yn y dyfodol yn seiliedig ar sgiliau a chyflog gyda'r trothwy posibl o £30,000 y cyfeiriodd llawer o'r Aelodau ato. Tanlinellodd yr adroddiad y comisiynwyd Canolfan Polisi Cyhoeddus Cymru gennym i'w gyflawni y llynedd ar effaith ymfudo yng Nghymru ar ôl Brexit y difrod y byddai trothwy cyflog yn ei achosi i Gymru, ac os yw'r damcaniaethu yn y wasg a nodwyd gan yr Aelodau ar gael gwared ar y gofynion cyflog yn gywir, byddai Llywodraeth Cymru yn croesawu'r datblygiad hwnnw.
English: Before the Minister finishes his remarks, I just wanted to raise something that has not been raised today. I wonder whether he's had time to get any clarity from the UK Government on the impact for Welsh employers. Because my understanding is that, for tier 2 non-EU workers who are coming into the UK - non-EU, which is what it's all going to be now applied to - there is a surcharge, an immigration skills charge, which is generally £1,000 per year per worker. I look around at small business people here in this Chamber with experience. The impact of that on small to medium-sized businesses could be significant if that was now to be applied right across the board, which I suspect it now will.
Welsh: Cyn i'r Gweinidog orffen ei sylwadau, roeddwn am grybwyll rhywbeth nad yw wedi cael sylw heddiw. Tybed a yw wedi cael amser i gael unrhyw eglurder gan Lywodraeth y DU ynglŷn â'r effaith ar gyflogwyr Cymru? Oherwydd yn ôl yr hyn rwy'n ei ddeall, ceir gordal am weithwyr haen 2 o'r tu allan i'r UE sy'n dod i'r DU - o'r tu allan i'r UE, sef yr hyn a fydd i gyd bellach - gordal sgiliau mewnfudo, sef £1,000 y flwyddyn y gweithiwr fel arfer. Rwy'n edrych o gwmpas ar bobl busnesau bach yma yn y Siambr sydd â phrofiad. Gallai effaith hynny ar fusnesau bach a chanolig fod yn sylweddol os caiff ei gymhwyso'n gyffredinol i bawb, ac rwy'n tybio y bydd hynny'n digwydd yn awr.
English: Well, certainly, that sort of issue is the kind of issue that, in the number of round-tables we've had with businesses large and small across Wales, those kinds of concerns are very near the top of their list. In particular, as the Member says, in relation to the impact of costs on smaller businesses. In concluding, can I just stress that migration isn't just about abstract notions of economics and demographics; it's about real people with real lives, real talents and real feelings?
Welsh: Wel, yn sicr, mae'r math hwnnw o fater, yn y nifer o gyfarfodydd bwrdd crwn a gawsom gyda busnesau mawr a bach ledled Cymru, mae'r mathau hynny o bryderon yn agos iawn at frig eu rhestr. Yn arbennig, fel y dywed yr Aelod, mewn perthynas ag effaith costau ar fusnesau llai o faint. Wrth gloi, a gaf fi bwysleisio bod ymfudo yn ymwneud â mwy na syniadau haniaethol yn unig ynghylch economeg a demograffeg; mae'n ymwneud â phobl go iawn sydd â bywydau go iawn, doniau go iawn a theimladau go iawn?
English: I am grateful to the Minister for allowing me in at this late stage. In watching this debate, I heard the word 'indigenous' used. I don't know what 'indigenous' means, because every single person in this Chamber is the descendent of an immigrant. It's simply a question of when our families came. Would you agree with me that when the word 'indigenous' is used, it is capable of being used in a far nastier way than it would first appear?
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar i'r Gweinidog am ganiatáu i mi gyfrannu ar y cam hwyr hwn. Wrth wylio'r ddadl hon, clywais y gair 'brodorol' yn cael ei ddefnyddio. Nid wyf yn gwybod beth yw ystyr 'brodorol', oherwydd mae pawb yn y Siambr hon yn ddisgynyddion i fewnfudwr. Nid yw ond yn fater o ba bryd y daeth ein teuluoedd yma. A fyddech yn cytuno â mi, pan ddefnyddir y gair 'brodorol', fod modd iddo gael ei ddefnyddio mewn ffordd lawer casach nag y byddai'n ymddangos ar yr olwg gyntaf?
English: Well, I would identify with the comments that the Member for Bridgend has made. I think what has struck a chord with me in this whole discussion and the discussion of the committee is the importance of language and rhetoric. And throughout the last three and a half years, I've been shocked by some of the occasionally thoughtless language that politicians have used, particularly in relation to EU citizens in this country, and I've been appalled to hear the use of language such as 'indigenous populations' and 'mass immigration', which are well-established dog-whistle terms, and we've heard them today in this Chamber from politicians in a way that is not thoughtless, actually, but deliberate. And over the course of this year, we as a Government will do all that we can in terms of how we help to shape the public climate in Wales to try and reverse some of the damage that is caused by the use of that language, and to make sure that when EU citizens listen to proceedings of this Chamber, they will continue to feel welcome here in Wales and know how much we value them. And as David Rees said in his contribution, in making EU citizens living in Wales feel welcome, we are all leaders in doing that.
Welsh: Wel, buaswn yn uniaethu â'r sylwadau y mae'r Aelod dros Ben-y-bont ar Ogwr wedi'u gwneud. Rwy'n credu mai'r hyn sydd wedi taro tant gyda mi yn y drafodaeth hon a thrafodaeth y pwyllgor yw pwysigrwydd iaith a rhethreg. A thrwy gydol y tair blynedd a hanner ddiwethaf, cefais fy syfrdanu gan beth o'r iaith ddifeddwl a ddefnyddiwyd gan wleidyddion ar brydiau, yn enwedig yng nghyswllt dinasyddion yr UE yn y wlad hon, a chefais fy nychryn wrth glywed y defnydd o iaith megis 'poblogaethau brodorol' a 'mewnfudo torfol', sydd wedi hen ennill eu plwyf fel ymadroddion 'chwiban y ci', ac rydym wedi'u clywed heddiw yn y Siambr gan wleidyddion mewn ffordd nad yw'n ddifeddwl, mewn gwirionedd, ond yn fwriadol. A thros y flwyddyn hon, byddwn ni fel Llywodraeth yn gwneud popeth a allwn helpu i ffurfio'r hinsawdd gyhoeddus yng Nghymru er mwyn ceisio gwrthdroi peth o'r niwed a achoswyd gan y defnydd o'r iaith honno, ac i wneud yn siŵr, pan fydd dinasyddion yr UE yn gwrando ar drafodion y Siambr hon, y byddant yn parhau i deimlo bod croeso iddynt yma yng Nghymru a'u bod yn gwybod faint rydym yn eu gwerthfawrogi. Ac fel y dywedodd David Rees yn ei gyfraniad, o ran gwneud i ddinasyddion yr UE sy'n byw yng Nghymru deimlo eu bod yn cael eu croesawu, rydym i gyd yn arweinwyr wrth wneud hynny.
English: Yes, I'm more than happy to.
Welsh: Rwy'n hapus iawn i wneud hynny.
English: Don't you think that the hysteria really comes from, say, Labour and Plaid benches? You whip up all this division. You honestly do.
Welsh: Onid ydych yn meddwl bod yr hysteria'n dod, dyweder, oddi ar feinciau Llafur a Phlaid Cymru? Rydych yn cymell yr holl raniadau hyn. O ddifrif.
English: You said Turkey was coming into the EU.
Welsh: Fe ddywedoch chi fod Twrci'n dod yn aelod o'r UE.
English: Did I?
Welsh: Wnes i?
English: No, I don't think it comes from our benches. I think our benches try to reflect, unfortunately, what's going on in society because of other comments being made, mainly by right-wing parties, and I think it's something we should be challenging on every occasion because we are talking about people who want to live here, who want to work here, who want to contribute here, and those are important to us. We should make them always feel welcome. We should never try and link them to a concept of mass immigration. We should never try and link them to a concept of not being welcome. We should always link them - . Oh, sorry. We should always link them to a concept of welcome.
Welsh: Na, nid wyf yn meddwl ei fod yn dod o'n meinciau ni. Rwy'n credu bod ein meinciau ni'n ceisio adlewyrchu, yn anffodus, yr hyn sy'n digwydd yn y gymdeithas oherwydd sylwadau eraill a wneir, yn bennaf gan bleidiau asgell dde, a chredaf ei fod yn rhywbeth y dylem fod yn ei herio ar bob achlysur am ein bod yn sôn am bobl sydd am fyw yma, sydd am weithio yma, sydd am gyfrannu yma, ac mae'r rheini'n bwysig i ni. Dylem wneud iddynt deimlo bod croeso iddynt bob amser. Ni ddylem byth geisio eu cysylltu â chysyniad o fewnfudo torfol. Ni ddylem byth geisio eu cysylltu â'r cysyniad nad oes croeso iddynt. Dylem bob amser eu cysylltu - . O, mae'n ddrwg gennyf. Dylem bob amser eu cysylltu â'r cysyniad o groeso.
English: I thank the Member for giving way. Does he share my sadness that UK citizens will now be only able to live and work in two countries - the UK and the Republic of Ireland - whereas EU citizens will be able to work in 28 countries and Irish citizens will be able to work in 29 countries, such as my wife and two children? And isn't it sad to see that, and isn't it the case that, in fact, those citizens who will lose out the most from the ending of freedom of movement are actually UK citizens?
Welsh: Diolch i'r Aelod am ildio. A yw'n rhannu fy nhristwch na fydd dinasyddion y DU ond yn gallu byw a gweithio mewn dwy wlad bellach - y DU a Gweriniaeth Iwerddon - tra bydd dinasyddion yr UE yn gallu gweithio mewn 28 o wledydd a bydd dinasyddion Iwerddon yn gallu gweithio mewn 29 o wledydd, fel fy ngwraig a fy nau blentyn? Ac onid yw'n drist gweld hynny, ac onid yw'n wir mai'r dinasyddion a fydd fwyaf ar eu colled o ganlyniad i roi diwedd y rhyddid i symud yw dinasyddion y DU mewn gwirionedd?
English: I thank the Member for his contribution. He's quite right: the individuals who will probably have more restrictions placed upon them are UK citizens, and it is disappointing that that will be the situation. And let's not forget UK young people who actually want to go and explore. We are limiting their chances in life as well. The Brexit Minister highlighted the Welsh Government's actions, and I very much appreciate them. I can appreciate very much the continued challenges that you're going to put to the UK Government to ensure that the immigration policy works for Wales. It is extremely important that we do that. Llywydd, it's an evolving policy area and I appreciate that. It's the intention of our committee to keep a watching brief on the activities of both Governments as we await the outcome of the migration advisory committee's review, which I expect to be published shortly. And I want to reiterate my message, and the message from the vast majority of Members here today, that people who have come here to work, who have come here to be part of our community, who have come here to build a life are very much welcome, very much supported, and whether you've got a piece of paper or not, we consider you our friends.
Welsh: Diolch i'r Aelod am ei gyfraniad. Mae'n llygad ei le: dinasyddion y DU yw'r unigolion a fydd yn wynebu fwyaf o gyfyngiadau arnynt mae'n debyg, ac mae'n siomedig mai dyna fydd y sefyllfa. A gadewch i ni beidio ag anghofio pobl ifanc y DU sydd am fynd i weld y byd. Rydym yn cyfyngu ar eu cyfleoedd hwythau mewn bywyd hefyd. Tynnodd y Gweinidog Brexit sylw at weithgarwch Llywodraeth Cymru, ac rwy'n ei werthfawrogi'n fawr. Rwy'n gallu gwerthfawrogi'n fawr yr heriau parhaus rydych chi'n mynd i'w cyflwyno i Lywodraeth y DU er mwyn sicrhau bod y polisi mewnfudo yn gweithio i Gymru. Mae'n bwysig dros ben ein bod yn gwneud hynny. Lywydd, mae'n faes polisi sy'n esblygu ac rwy'n derbyn hynny. Bwriad ein pwyllgor yw cadw golwg ar weithgarwch y ddwy Lywodraeth wrth inni ddisgwyl am ganlyniad adolygiad y pwyllgor cynghori ar ymfudo y disgwyliaf iddo gael ei gyhoeddi cyn bo hir. Ac rwyf am ailadrodd fy neges, a'r neges gan fwyafrif helaeth yr Aelodau yma heddiw, fod pobl sydd wedi dod yma i weithio, sydd wedi dod yma i fod yn rhan o'n cymuned, sydd wedi dod yma i adeiladu bywyd i'w croesawu'n fawr, yn cael eu cefnogi'n gadarn, a pha un a oes gennych ddarn o bapur ai peidio, rydym yn ystyried eich bod yn ffrindiau i ni.
English: The proposal is to note the committee's report. Does any Member object? The motion is therefore agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid nodi adroddiad y pwyllgor? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Rydym ni'n derbyn, felly, y cynnig yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36.
English: The next item is the Conservative Party debate on workforce skills post Brexit, and I call on Mohammad Asghar to move the motion. Mohammad Asghar.
Welsh: Yr eitem nesaf yw dadl y Blaid Geidwadol ar sgiliau'r gweithlu ar ôl Brexit, a dwi'n galw ar Mohammad Asghar i wneud y cynnig. Mohammad Asghar.
English: I'm going to call on the Minister for Education to move formally amendment 2, tabled in the name of Rebecca Evans.
Welsh: Rwy'n mynd i alw ar y Gweinidog Addysg i gynnig gwelliant 2, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Rebecca Evans, yn ffurfiol.
English: There seems to be some objection from Labour Members to his use of the word 'indigenous'. I wonder whether, when people come to make their lives in Wales, it's right that we should welcome them as we wish or whether we should denigrate those individuals as 'visitors'.
Welsh: Mae'n ymddangos bod rhywfaint o wrthwynebiad gan Aelodau Llafur i'w ddefnydd o'r gair 'brodorol'. Pan ddaw pobl i wneud eu bywydau yng Nghymru, tybed a yw hi'n iawn inni eu croesawu fel y dymunwn neu a ddylem ddifrïo'r unigolion hynny drwy eu galw'n 'ymwelwyr'.