English: The Member raises some very important issues, but can I say that these are very modern facilities? The issue of education and rehabilitation is an important one. Wrexham prison and Bridgend, actually, have got some very good processes where reintegration into the community is an important one. If you lock people up and treat them like wild animals in cages, they will come back out as wild animals out of cages. That's why we've got to have a different offer, and the old facilities that we have lend themselves quite nicely to that scenario. We have to have a new, modern approach to incarceration if that's the last port of call. I accept the Member's point on women's prisons. It troubles me dearly the fact that we've got anybody incarcerated - young people, men or women. But there are some times when this has to happen, and I think if it does have to happen, then it has to happen close to home, where we can still have integration with family connections that lead to better outcomes for people. So, I accept the Member's very valid point about women's prisons in general, but where we do need them, we have to make sure that we manage them properly. These types of facilities - cutting edge in prison terms - are a whole new ball game. The one in Wrexham, a brand new facility, has the Coleg Cambria institution on there, helping people to learn new skills and training, an apprentice process for young people to go through as well, and a healthcare facility that is not only used for inmates, but for the public as well. So, the facilities they have there are in addition to the national health service. There are obviously concerns about the placement of this prison and what it looks like for the future, but let's not jump to conclusions about what it may look like, because actually it might provide better outcomes for the people of all our communities that we all represent.
Welsh: Mae'r Aelod yn nodi materion pwysig iawn, ond a gaf fi ddweud bod y rhain yn gyfleusterau modern iawn? Mae mater addysg ac adsefydlu yn un pwysig. Mewn gwirionedd mae gan garchar Wrecsam a Phen-y-bont ar Ogwr brosesau da iawn gydag ailintegreiddio i'r gymuned yn un bwysig. Os ydych yn rhoi pobl dan glo ac yn eu trin fel anifeiliaid gwyllt mewn cewyll, dônt allan yn eu holau o'u cewyll fel anifeiliaid gwyllt. Dyna pam y mae'n rhaid i ni gael cynnig gwahanol, ac mae'r hen gyfleusterau sydd gennym yn gweddu'n dda i'r senario hwnnw. Mae'n rhaid i ni gael ymagwedd newydd, fodern at garcharu os mai dyna'r unig ddewis yn y pen draw. Rwy'n derbyn pwynt yr Aelod am garchardai menywod. Mae'n fy mhoeni'n fawr fod gennym unrhyw un wedi'i garcharu - pobl ifanc, dynion neu fenywod. Ond mae rhai adegau pan fo'n rhaid i hyn ddigwydd, ac os oes rhaid iddo ddigwydd, yna rwy'n creu bod rhaid i hyn ddigwydd yn agos at adref, lle y gallwn barhau i weld integreiddio'n digwydd â chysylltiadau teuluol sy'n arwain at ganlyniadau gwell i bobl. Felly, rwy'n derbyn pwynt dilys iawn yr Aelod ynglŷn â charchardai menywod yn gyffredinol, ond lle rydym eu hangen, mae'n rhaid i ni wneud yn siŵr ein bod yn eu rheoli'n briodol. Mae'r mathau hyn o gyfleusterau - sy'n fodern iawn o ran carchardai - yn wahanol iawn. Mae gan yr un yn Wrecsam, cyfleuster newydd sbon, sefydliad Coleg Cambria yno, yn helpu pobl i ddysgu sgiliau newydd a hyfforddiant, proses brentisiaeth i bobl ifanc fynd drwyddi hefyd, a chyfleuster gofal iechyd nad yw'n cael ei ddefnyddio'n unig ar gyfer carcharorion, ond ar gyfer y cyhoedd yn ogystal. Felly, mae'r cyfleusterau sydd ganddynt yno yn ychwanegol at y gwasanaeth iechyd gwladol. Mae'n amlwg fod yna bryderon ynglŷn â lleoliad y carchar hwn a sut y mae'n edrych ar gyfer y dyfodol, ond peidiwch â gadael i ni neidio i gasgliadau ynglŷn â sut y gallai fod, oherwydd mewn gwirionedd gallai ddarparu canlyniadau gwell i bobl yn yr holl gymunedau a gynrychiolir gennym.