English: I absolutely acknowledge that people voted to leave the European Union in 2016. [ Interruption.] I'm not ignoring them at all, but I don't think they voted to lose their jobs, and that is one of the consequences of crashing out of the European Union. I think that it was a very, very complicated issue, being put - . [ Interruption.] No. It was a very complicated issue. Trying to put it to a referendum was - . You only have to remember how difficult it was on the doorstep to have a conversation that did not need to go on for half an hour, because it's such a complicated issue. The original disaster occurred when David Cameron decided to put this issue to a referendum as an alternative to having to put up with the split in the Conservative Party. But we are where we are, so we have to get on with the situation that we have. There have been some benefits to the Brexit vote, and one of them is that it's lowered the value of the pound that has helped to secure our steel industry, so that is something we should all be grateful for. But that doesn't mean to say that crashing out of the European Union isn't something that nearly everybody in this Chamber would be appalled by, including, I hope, Paul Davies. So, I think that of course we need to secure the very best deal that we possibly can, and that's why we should support our Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the excellent work he's doing in the Joint Ministerial Committee to try and navigate some sort of rational behaviour by the UK Government in the way it's going to affect the devolution settlement. But I really think that we are deluding ourselves if we think that, as Members of this Chamber, we have any influence over what the UK Government is getting up to. They have far too big a problem themselves. I feel some sympathy for Mrs May, who's had to spend two years trying to think of a way of squaring the circle in her own party, which means that, unfortunately, she hasn't had enough time to listen to what the EU-27 members have been saying really carefully. So, I do not understand - I cannot see how the UK parliamentary Conservative Party will unite behind whatever agreement Mrs May manages to achieve by way of agreement that doesn't contradict the commitments laid down in the Good Friday peace agreement. So, the only way she can avoid crashing out of the EU, which I'm sure she doesn't want to do, would be to rely on the parliamentary Labour Party and its six conditions for support. Now, I think Labour's demand for a general election is for the birds, because the Conservative Party is never going to vote for a general election before 2022, and therefore this people's vote, plebiscite, alternative referendum is actually the only way out of absolute political deadlock, which we have never seen in our lifetime, even though it may have occurred perhaps in the 1920s, 1930s. So, we have to prepare for the possibility of some sort of referendum in order to have some resolution to the problem that is about to occur at the end of March next year - [ Interruption.] It is not without risk. There is the possibility of civil unrest because passions are so high on this issue. So, those of us who are concerned about this need to do all we can between now and then to reach out to all those people who voted differently to the way that we wanted them to to ensure that - [ Interruption.] - no - to ensure that we are able to have a civilised discourse on this matter on the issues that face us. I find it really difficult to understand how Welsh farmers voted to forgo 80 per cent of their income, which they got from the common agricultural policy, but it is a fact they did, so we all are to blame for not communicating clearly enough the consequences of the way we voted. People thought that this was just something we'd be able to reverse next time, just like with general elections, but we cannot - . This is a really, really serious issue. We cannot underestimate the possibility of conflict if we cannot resolve it by another means, and it seems to me that, in the absence of a general election, which I don't think will happen, some sort of plebiscite is the only way of resolving it.
Welsh: Rwy'n cydnabod yn llwyr fod pobl wedi pleidleisio dros adael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd yn 2016. [ Torri ar draws.] Nid wyf yn eu hanwybyddu o gwbl, ond nid wyf yn credu eu bod wedi pleidleisio dros golli eu swyddi, a dyna un o ganlyniadau gadael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd heb gytundeb. Credaf ei fod yn fater cymhleth tu hwnt a gyflwynwyd - . [ Torri ar draws.] Na. Roedd yn fater cymhleth iawn. Roedd ceisio'i roi mewn refferendwm - . Nid oes ond angen i chi gofio pa mor anodd oedd hi ar garreg y drws i gael sgwrs nad oedd angen iddi barhau am hanner awr oherwydd ei fod yn fater mor gymhleth. Digwyddodd y trychineb gwreiddiol pan benderfynodd David Cameron gynnal refferendwm ar y mater yn lle gorfod dioddef y rhaniad yn y Blaid Geidwadol. Ond rydym lle'r ydym, felly rhaid inni fwrw ymlaen â'r sefyllfa sydd gennym. Cafwyd rhai manteision i bleidlais Brexit, ac un ohonynt yw ei bod wedi gostwng gwerth y bunt gan helpu i ddiogelu ein diwydiant dur, felly mae hynny'n rhywbeth y dylem i gyd fod yn ddiolchgar amdano. Ond nid yw hynny'n golygu nad yw gadael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd heb gytundeb yn rhywbeth y byddai bron bawb yn y Siambr hon yn ei ystyried yn gwbl annerbyniol, gan gynnwys Paul Davies gobeithio. Felly, credaf fod angen inni sicrhau'r fargen orau a allwn wrth gwrs, a dyna pam y dylem gefnogi ein Hysgrifennydd Cabinet dros Gyllid a'r gwaith rhagorol y mae'n ei wneud yng Nghyd-bwyllgor y Gweinidogion i geisio llywio rhyw fath o ymddygiad rhesymegol gan Lywodraeth y DU yn y ffordd y mae'n mynd i effeithio ar y setliad datganoli. Ond rwy'n credu o ddifrif ein bod yn twyllo ein hunain os credwn, fel Aelodau o'r Siambr hon, fod gennym unrhyw ddylanwad dros yr hyn y mae Llywodraeth y DU yn ei wneud. Mae ganddynt broblem rhy fawr eu hunain. Mae gennyf beth cydymdeimlad â Mrs May, sydd wedi gorfod treulio dwy flynedd yn ceisio meddwl am ffordd o sgwario'r cylch yn ei phlaid ei hun, sy'n golygu, yn anffodus, nad yw hi wedi cael digon o amser i wrando'n ofalus iawn ar yr hyn y mae 27 aelod yr UE yn ei ddweud. Felly, nid wyf yn deall - ni allaf weld sut y bydd Plaid Geidwadol seneddol y DU yn uno y tu ôl i ba fargen bynnag y bydd Mrs May yn llwyddo i'w tharo drwy gyfrwng cytundeb nad yw'n gwrth-ddweud yr ymrwymiadau a nodwyd yng nghytundeb heddwch Dydd Gwener y Groglith. Felly, yr unig ffordd y gall osgoi gadael yr UE heb gytundeb o gwbl, ac rwy'n siŵr nad yw am wneud hynny, fyddai dibynnu ar y Blaid Lafur seneddol a'i chwe amod cefnogaeth. Nawr, rwy'n credu bod galwad y Blaid Lafur am etholiad cyffredinol yn gwbl ofer, gan nad yw'r Blaid Geidwadol byth yn mynd i bleidleisio dros gynnal etholiad cyffredinol cyn 2022, ac felly pleidlais y bobl, gwerinbleidlais, refferendwm arall yw'r unig ffordd allan o sefyllfa wleidyddol gwbl ddiddatrys, na welsom mo'i thebyg erioed yn ystod ein hoes ni, er ei fod wedi digwydd o bosibl yn y 1920au, 1930s. Felly, rhaid inni baratoi ar gyfer y posibilrwydd o ryw fath o refferendwm er mwyn cael rhyw fath o ateb i'r broblem sydd ar fin digwydd ddiwedd mis Mawrth y flwyddyn nesaf - [ T orri ar draws.] Nid yw heb risg. Ceir y posibilrwydd o anghydfod sifil oherwydd teimladau dyfnion pobl ynglŷn â'r mater hwn. Felly, mae angen i'r rheini ohonom sy'n poeni am hyn wneud popeth yn ein gallu rhwng nawr a'r adeg honno i estyn allan at yr holl bobl a bleidleisiodd mewn ffordd wahanol i'r ffordd yr oeddem eisiau iddynt ei wneud er mwyn sicrhau bod - [ T orri ar draws.] - na - i sicrhau ein bod yn gallu cael trafodaeth wâr ar y mater hwn, ar y materion sy'n ein hwynebu. Rwy'n ei chael hi'n anodd iawn deall sut y pleidleisiodd ffermwyr Cymru i ymwrthod ag 80 y cant o'u hincwm, a ddôi iddynt o'r polisi amaethyddol cyffredin, ond mae'n ffaith eu bod wedi gwneud hynny, felly mae bai ar bawb ohonom am beidio â chyfathrebu'n ddigon clir beth fyddai canlyniadau'r ffordd y byddem yn pleidleisio. Roedd pobl yn meddwl bod hyn yn rhywbeth y byddem yn gallu ei wrthdroi y tro nesaf, fel gydag etholiadau cyffredinol, ond ni allwn wneud hynny - . Mae'n broblem wirioneddol ddifrifol. Ni allwn ddiystyru'r posibilrwydd o wrthdaro os na ellir ei ddatrys drwy ddull arall, ac yn absenoldeb etholiad cyffredinol, ac nid wyf yn credu y bydd hynny'n digwydd, mae'n ymddangos i mi mai rhyw fath o werinbleidlais yw'r unig ffordd o ddatrys hyn.