English: Janet Finch-Saunders is right; farmers are exposed to a disproportionate share of risk within the food system, but, again, what share of the Brexit risk will Welsh farmers have to shoulder? But she did highlight calls for 2 per cent of land to be dedicated to horticulture; I think it's 0.1 per cent of the total farm area at the moment. But then again, we saw UK food box schemes oversubscribed by 82 per cent during the recent pandemic, with average waiting lists of 160 people, so we have the climate, we have the fertile soil, we have close proximity to heavily populated areas. I think there is huge potential in that respect, and we need to do more. Helen Mary Jones referred to the Hendy example of selling milk directly. I suppose it's the dairy equivalent of the veg box, isn't it, really? And it's about retaining that local pound, which brought us on to public procurement, and I made the analogy before that our local economy is too often like a leaking bucket, with a number of holes in it, where all the local value flows out of the local community, and we need to be plugging those holes as best we can, and food certainly has a big role in that respect. Jenny again reminded us about Brexit as well, and 96 per cent of red meat exports go to the EU. And Kevin Roberts, the chair of Hybu Cig Cymru, reminded us in that seminar that Janet mentioned earlier that a 'no deal' outcome would mean a 30 per cent collapse in farm-gate prices. So, the stakes are high and time is scarce; 28, 29 days from now, and we still don't know what's ahead. Thank you to Delyth as well. It's a stark, stark statistic, isn't it, that a third of children are living in poverty? Let's just pause and think about that. A third of children living in poverty. Making sure they have food is one thing, but making sure they have healthy food is a whole other challenge as well. And as she was speaking, I was reminded, there was an article in the British Medical Journal a couple of years ago warning that the next public health crisis - obviously not knowing that coronavirus was on its way - but the next public health crisis could well be child nutrition. In the UK. Now that tells us something about the kind of society that we're living in at the moment, doesn't it, and the kind of challenge ahead, when it comes to food? I think, Huw, you hit the nail on its head, really: what are we trying to achieve out of the food system? Maybe it shouldn't have taken us 20 years of devolution to be asking ourselves that question, but we are asking it, and you're right, there have been initiatives, but maybe not as comprehensive and not as keenly pursued as maybe they should have been. Well, let today's debate be that moment when we make that decision, when we make that pledge to the people of Wales, to the one third of children who live in poverty, that we will get to grips with that. And if it does mean a right to good food for everybody, then so be it: let's do it. Let's do it. And I share his concerns about the impact of the internal market Bill and post-EU funding as well, which could well hamper us, but I think we need to stiffen our resolve and make sure that we turn every stone to get this done. Wales needs a food system that better connects the dots around all the different aspects that Members have referred to today. It's a complex task; nobody is denying that. Not only does it need a joined-up approach from Government - a more joined-up approach from Government - but also from all of the parts of the food system. I think a food commission could help draw that up or articulate how best we could make that happen, but, of course, the sooner the Welsh Government gets on with it, the sooner it can be that we can bring greater social, economic, cultural, health and environmental benefits to the people of Wales. Diolch.
Welsh: Mae Janet Finch-Saunders yn iawn; mae ffermwyr yn agored i gyfran anghymesur o risg o fewn y system fwyd, ond eto, pa gyfran o risg Brexit fydd yn rhaid i ffermwyr Cymru ei hysgwyddo? Ond tynnodd sylw at alwadau am neilltuo 2 y cant o'r tir i arddwriaeth; rwy'n credu ei fod yn 0.1 y cant o gyfanswm arwynebedd ffermydd ar hyn o bryd. Ond unwaith eto, gwelsom 82 y cant yn fwy o alw am gynlluniau blychau bwyd y DU na'r hyn oedd ar gael yn ystod y pandemig diweddar, gyda rhestrau aros cyfartalog o 160 o bobl, felly mae gennym yr hinsawdd, mae gennym y pridd ffrwythlon, mae gennym agosrwydd at ardaloedd poblog iawn. Credaf fod potensial enfawr yn hyn, ac mae angen inni wneud mwy. Cyfeiriodd Helen Mary Jones at enghraifft yr Hendy o werthu llaeth yn uniongyrchol. Mae'n debyg ei fod yn cyfateb i'r blwch llysiau ym maes cynnyrch llaeth, onid yw? Ac mae'n ymwneud â chadw'r bunt leol honno, a ddaeth â ni at gaffael cyhoeddus, a gwneuthum y gyfatebiaeth o'r blaen fod ein heconomi leol yn rhy aml fel bwced sy'n gollwng, gyda nifer o dyllau ynddo, lle mae'r holl werth lleol yn llifo allan o'r gymuned leol, ac mae angen inni lenwi'r tyllau hynny gystal ag y gallwn, ac yn sicr mae gan fwyd ran fawr i'w chwarae yn hynny. Fe'n hatgoffwyd eto gan Jenny am Brexit hefyd, ac mae 96 y cant o allforion cig coch yn mynd i'r UE. Ac fe'n hatgoffwyd gan Kevin Roberts, cadeirydd Hybu Cig Cymru, yn y seminar y soniodd Janet amdani'n gynharach y byddai canlyniad 'dim cytundeb' yn golygu cwymp o 30 y cant yn y prisiau wrth gât y fferm. Felly, mae'r cyfan yn y fantol ac mae amser yn brin; 28, 29 diwrnod o nawr, ac nid ydym yn gwybod o hyd beth sydd o'n blaenau. Diolch i Delyth hefyd. Mae'n ystadegyn llwm iawn, onid yw, fod traean o blant yn byw mewn tlodi? Gadewch i ni oedi a meddwl am hynny. Traean o blant yn byw mewn tlodi. Mae sicrhau bod ganddynt fwyd yn un peth, ond mae sicrhau bod ganddynt fwyd iach yn her arall ar ben hynny. Ac wrth iddi siarad, cefais fy atgoffa o erthygl yn y British Medical Journal ychydig flynyddoedd yn ôl yn rhybuddio bod yr argyfwng iechyd cyhoeddus nesaf - yn amlwg heb wybod bod coronafeirws ar ei ffordd - ond gallai'r argyfwng iechyd cyhoeddus nesaf yn hawdd ymwneud â maethiad plant. Yn y DU. Nawr mae hynny'n dweud rhywbeth wrthym am y math o gymdeithas rydym yn byw ynddi ar hyn o bryd, onid yw, a'r math o her sydd o'n blaenau mewn perthynas â bwyd? Huw, credaf eich bod wedi taro'r hoelen ar ei phen mewn gwirionedd: beth rydym yn ceisio'i gyflawni o'r system fwyd? Efallai na ddylai fod wedi cymryd 20 mlynedd o ddatganoli i ni ofyn y cwestiwn hwnnw i ni'n hunain, ond rydym yn ei ofyn, ac rydych yn iawn, fe gafwyd mentrau, ond efallai nad ydynt mor gynhwysfawr, ac nad ydym yn mynd ar eu trywydd mor frwd ag y dylem fod wedi gwneud. Wel, gadewch i'r ddadl heddiw nodi'r foment pan wnawn y penderfyniad hwnnw, pan wnawn yr addewid hwnnw i bobl Cymru, i'r traean o blant sy'n byw mewn tlodi, y byddwn yn mynd i'r afael â hynny. Ac os yw'n golygu hawl i fwyd da i bawb, boed hynny fel y bo: gadewch i ni wneud hynny. Gadewch i ni ei wneud. Ac rwy'n rhannu ei bryderon am effaith y Bil marchnad fewnol a chyllid ar ôl yr UE hefyd, a allai ein llesteirio, ond credaf fod angen inni fod yn fwy penderfynol a sicrhau ein bod yn gwneud ein gorau glas i gyflawni hyn. Mae angen system fwyd ar Gymru sy'n cysylltu'r dotiau'n well rhwng yr holl wahanol agweddau y mae'r Aelodau wedi cyfeirio atynt heddiw. Mae'n dasg gymhleth; nid oes neb yn gwadu hynny. Nid yn unig fod angen dull gweithredu cydgysylltiedig o fewn y Llywodraeth - dull gweithredu mwy cydgysylltiedig o fewn y Llywodraeth - ond hefyd ym mhob rhan o'r system fwyd. Rwy'n credu y gallai comisiwn bwyd helpu i lunio hynny neu fynegi'r ffordd orau y gallem wneud i hynny ddigwydd, ond wrth gwrs, po gyntaf y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn bwrw ymlaen ag ef, y cynharaf y gallwn ddod â mwy o fanteision cymdeithasol, economaidd, diwylliannol, iechyd ac amgylcheddol i bobl Cymru. Diolch.