English: Well, the evidence that Darren Millar puts forward from New Zealand is very different from the evidence that I have read, and the first-hand reports that I've received about what's happened in New Zealand is that it has been a very positive experience, that 10 years have resulted in a very successful bit of legislation of which they are proud. So, I think you're looking at something very different than what I'm seeing. So, with regard to the police, as I say, we've got their total support and we're working very closely with them. Another theme that has come up is the pressure that is on, particularly, social services and on the front-line staff. And, again, we've had a lot of discussion and debate with social services members and I know that they gave evidence, again, to the children and young persons committee, and, again, I've got to repeat that social services are totally in support of this legislation. All the professionals who are working on the front line, who are working with children, who are helping parents, want this legislation to go through, because it makes their job so much easier because they are clear in what they can do, how they can help, and how they can advise parents. So, we've got all those people that you're worrying about, about the social services and the burden of it - they're completely behind us. So, I think it's really important that we do take that on board, that all the professionals who are involved in a professional way on working on the front line are supporting this legislation. And then the third point I'd like to make, really, is the issue about support for the Bill. The feedback to the children and young persons committee was: professional support organisations, total. But individual responses from parents were, on the whole, negative. We have done representative surveys of parents and of the public from the Government and certainly there does appear to be a trend of much greater acceptance of this legislation and a much greater feeling that this is the right way to go. Amongst younger people, it's very, very strong, because 60 per cent of those aged 16 to 35 do not think it is necessary to smack a child, and that is of younger people, and particularly of parents with children under seven. And so I do think that this is - . We are going along with the times; things are moving. We heard in contributions to the debate that there was a time when we thought it was completely wrong for - we thought it was right for children to be hit in schools; there was an uproar about removing corporal punishment. Now, we're moving on to the next stage. I know the Deputy Presiding Officer is telling me I have to finish, but I just want to finish, really, by saying thank you, all, for all your contributions, whatever side you came in on, because I think - . I do hope that we will get the vote here today to take this through, because I think this is a landmark bit of legislation and I'll be very proud if this Welsh Parliament passes it.
Welsh: Wel, mae'r dystiolaeth y mae Darren Millar yn ei chyflwyno o Seland Newydd yn wahanol iawn i'r dystiolaeth yr wyf wedi'i darllen, ac mae'r adroddiadau uniongyrchol yr wyf i wedi'u cael am yr hyn sydd wedi digwydd yn Seland Newydd yn nodi ei fod wedi bod yn brofiad cadarnhaol iawn, bod 10 mlynedd wedi arwain at ddarn llwyddiannus iawn o ddeddfwriaeth y maen nhw'n falch ohono. Felly, rwy'n credu eich bod chi'n edrych ar rywbeth gwahanol iawn i'r hyn yr wyf i'n ei weld. Felly, o ran yr heddlu, fel yr wyf yn ei dweud, mae gennym eu cefnogaeth lwyr ac rydym yn cydweithio'n agos iawn â nhw. Thema arall sydd wedi codi yw'r pwysau sydd ar y gwasanaethau cymdeithasol, yn arbennig, ac ar y staff rheng flaen. Ac, unwaith eto, rydym ni wedi cael llawer o drafodaethau a dadlau gydag aelodau'r gwasanaethau cymdeithasol a gwn eu bod nhw wedi rhoi tystiolaeth, eto, i'r pwyllgor plant a phobl ifanc, ac, unwaith eto, mae'n rhaid i mi ailadrodd bod y gwasanaethau cymdeithasol yn llwyr gefnogi'r ddeddfwriaeth hon. Mae'r holl weithwyr proffesiynol sy'n gweithio ar y rheng flaen, sy'n gweithio gyda phlant, sy'n helpu rhieni, yn dymuno i'r ddeddfwriaeth hon fynd trwodd, gan ei bod yn gwneud eu gwaith nhw gymaint yn haws gan eu bod yn glir o ran yr hyn y gallan nhw ei wneud, sut y gallan nhw helpu, a sut y gallan nhw gynghori rhieni. Felly, mae gennym ni'r holl bobl hynny yr ydych chi'n poeni amdanyn nhw, am y gwasanaethau cymdeithasol a'r baich - maen nhw yn gwbl gefnogol. Felly, rwy'n credu ei bod yn bwysig iawn ein bod yn ystyried hynny, bod yr holl weithwyr proffesiynol sy'n ymwneud â gweithio ar y rheng flaen mewn modd proffesiynol yn cefnogi'r ddeddfwriaeth hon. Ac yna'r trydydd pwynt yr hoffwn i ei wneud, mewn gwirionedd, yw'r mater ynghylch y gefnogaeth ar gyfer y Bil. Roedd y sylwadau i'r pwyllgor plant a phobl ifanc: sefydliadau cymorth proffesiynol, yn gwbl gefnogol. Ond roedd ymatebion unigol gan rieni, ar y cyfan, yn negyddol. Rydym wedi gwneud arolygon cynrychioliadol o rieni ac o'r cyhoedd o'r Llywodraeth ac yn sicr mae'n ymddangos bod tuedd bod llawer mwy o bobl yn derbyn y ddeddfwriaeth hon a llawer mwy o'r farn mai dyma'r cyfeiriad iawn i fynd iddo. Ymhlith pobl iau, mae'n gryf iawn, iawn, oherwydd mae 60 y cant o'r rhai hynny sydd rhwng 16 a 35 oed yn credu nad oes angen smacio plentyn, ac mae hynny'n bobl iau, ac yn enwedig rhieni sydd â phlant o dan saith oed. Ac felly rwy'n meddwl mai dyma - . Rydym ni'n cyd-fynd â'r oes; mae pethau'n symud. Clywsom mewn cyfraniadau i'r ddadl fod yna adeg pan oeddem ni'n credu ei bod yn gwbl anghywir i - roeddem ni'n credu ei bod yn iawn i blant gael eu taro mewn ysgolion; roedd yna stŵr ynghylch cael gwared ar gosb gorfforol. Nawr, rydym ni'n symud ymlaen i'r cam nesaf. Gwn fod y Dirprwy Lywydd yn dweud wrthyf i fod yn rhaid imi orffen, ond rwyf eisiau gorffen, a dweud y gwir, drwy ddweud diolch, i chi i gyd, am eich holl gyfraniadau, pa ochr bynnag yr oeddech chi arni, oherwydd rwy'n credu - . Rwy'n gobeithio y byddwn ni'n llwyddo i gael y bleidlais yma heddiw i fwrw ymlaen â hyn, oherwydd rwy'n credu bod hwn yn ddarn pwysig o ddeddfwriaeth a byddaf yn falch iawn o'r ddeddfwriaeth os bydd y Senedd Cymru hon yn ei phasio.