English: Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer. I've listened carefully to the debate that's taken place this afternoon, and I'm very grateful to Members for the time that they've taken to participate in the debate, and grateful also for the Petitions Committee and the petitioners, who have taken the time to bring this matter to the attention of the National Assembly. The motion in front of us today asks us to take note of this petition. We will do so, we will take note of the petition, but in doing so we will also take note of the debate that it has engendered, and take note of the arguments that have been put forward. We will take note of the debate that we've had today, and the ongoing debate around not only this particular prison, but also the policy that seeks to underpin it. And in doing so, Deputy Presiding Officer, I would also like to give my own personal thanks to David Rees, who has taken the time to brief me and to talk to me and to meet me to outline the issues that are behind this issue. I'm very grateful to David for the way in which he's approached this matter and the way in which he's informed the Government of the views of the people of Port Talbot. Can I first of all, Deputy Presiding Officer, in replying to the debate this afternoon, do two things? First of all, to outline the process that has led us to where we are today, but then also to outline the approach that I would like to take in the future. The Welsh Government was approached by the Ministry of Justice as part of an exercise across England and Wales to identify sites that could be developed for a prison. We regularly engage with businesses and developers in this way, and in this case we supplied a list of 20 sites. We were clearly not a part of the decision process that selected Baglan in Port Talbot as a preferred site, as this was a UK Government-led process -
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Rwyf wedi yn gwrando'n ofalus ar y ddadl a gynhaliwyd y prynhawn yma, ac rwy'n ddiolchgar iawn i'r Aelodau am yr amser y maent wedi'i roi i gymryd rhan yn y ddadl, ac rwy'n ddiolchgar hefyd i'r Pwyllgor Deisebau a'r deisebwyr, sydd wedi rhoi amser i ddwyn y mater hwn i sylw'r Cynulliad Cenedlaethol. Mae'r cynnig ger ein bron heddiw yn gofyn i ni nodi'r ddeiseb hon. Fe wnawn hynny, fe nodwn y ddeiseb, ond wrth wneud hynny, byddwn hefyd yn nodi'r ddadl y mae wedi ei hennyn, ac yn nodi'r dadleuon a gyflwynwyd. Fe nodwn y drafodaeth a gawsom heddiw, a'r drafodaeth barhaus nid yn unig ynglŷn â'r carchar penodol hwn, ond y polisi sy'n ceisio ei danategu. Ac wrth wneud hynny, Ddirprwy Lywydd, hoffwn ddiolch yn bersonol hefyd i David Rees, sydd wedi rhoi amser i fy mriffio ac i siarad â mi ac i fy nghyfarfod i amlinellu'r pethau sy'n sail i'r mater hwn. Rwy'n ddiolchgar iawn i David am y ffordd y mae wedi ymdrin â'r mater hwn a'r ffordd y mae wedi hysbysu'r Llywodraeth ynglŷn â safbwyntiau pobl Port Talbot. Yn gyntaf oll, Ddirprwy Lywydd, wrth ymateb i'r ddadl y prynhawn yma, a gaf fi wneud dau beth? Yn gyntaf oll, amlinellu'r broses sydd wedi ein harwain i'r fan lle'r ydym heddiw, ond amlinellu wedyn hefyd y dull o weithredu yr hoffwn ei fabwysiadu yn y dyfodol. Cysylltodd y Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder â Llywodraeth Cymru fel rhan o ymarfer ar draws Cymru a Lloegr i nodi safleoedd y gellid eu datblygu ar gyfer carchar. Rydym yn ymgysylltu'n rheolaidd â busnesau a datblygwyr yn y ffordd hon, ac yn yr achos hwn darparwyd rhestr gennym o 20 o safleoedd. Yn amlwg, nid oeddem yn rhan o'r broses benderfynu a ddewisodd Baglan ym Mhort Talbot fel safle a ffafrir, gan mai proses dan arweiniad Llywodraeth y DU oedd hon -