English: Yes, absolutely. I think that's a given - that it's about school funding, the cost of running a school, the cost of educating individual pupils and also the cost of the reforms. Can I thank David Rowlands for his support for the committee report? David raised the issue of direct funding for schools, as did Alun Davies. As the Minister has highlighted, there are very diverse views on that. We had some evidence from unions like the Association of School and College Leaders that said that they would welcome a national funding formula for Wales, but, of course, local government were very opposed to that in the inquiry. What the committee has sought to do is to try and ensure that we have a consistent approach to funding, and that is very much our focus. Can I thank Alun Davies for his contribution, some of which I've picked up on - also his very strong support for the need for proper funding for additional learning needs? I know that that's something that you're very committed to. That was a very strong theme in the committee's inquiry, but also in our scrutiny of the Bill when it was going through. Stakeholders were saying to us, 'This will only work if it is properly funded', so we are very clear about that. You also called for ring-fenced funding for schools. I was a member of the school funding committee that met in 2005, some 15 years ago, and we called for there to be protection for school funding. A minimum amount of funding would be - the indicator-based assessment would be the minimum that had to be spent in our schools. That report and the report that followed it - the Bramley review - went into the 'too difficult' box. That's why I make the point that we cannot allow this forthcoming review to go into that box as well. Can I thank the Minister for her response and for her ongoing engagement with the committee, and for the positive approach that she's taken to the committee's recommendations? I'm very pleased that Luke Sibieta has been appointed. Members will remember that he was engaged with the committee - he did a session with us - and he is a recognised expert. We will continue to follow that work with great interest and hope that it will lead to some very significant findings. Can I just conclude by thanking everybody who gave evidence to the committee and supported us? Just to reiterate that point that I made, we are going to have to have a grown-up conversation about this across parties, across Government and across local government, because that money needs to come from somewhere. And I hope that we can prioritise our children and young people.
Welsh: Yn hollol. Rwy'n credu bod hynny wedi'i dderbyn - ei fod yn ymwneud â chyllido ysgolion, cost rhedeg ysgol, cost addysgu disgyblion unigol a chost y diwygiadau hefyd. A gaf fi ddiolch i David Rowlands am ei gefnogaeth i adroddiad y pwyllgor? Cododd David fater cyllid uniongyrchol i ysgolion, fel y gwnaeth Alun Davies. Fel y nododd y Gweinidog, ceir safbwyntiau amrywiol iawn ar hynny. Cawsom rywfaint o dystiolaeth gan undebau fel y Gymdeithas Arweinwyr Ysgolion a Cholegau a ddywedodd y byddent yn croesawu fformiwla ariannu genedlaethol ar gyfer Cymru, ond wrth gwrs, roedd llywodraeth leol yn wrthwynebus iawn i hynny yn yr ymchwiliad. Yr hyn y mae'r pwyllgor wedi anelu i'w wneud yw ceisio sicrhau bod gennym agwedd gyson at gyllid, a dyna'n sicr yw ein ffocws. A gaf fi ddiolch i Alun Davies am ei gyfraniad, ac rwyf wedi nodi peth ohono - hefyd ei gefnogaeth gref iawn i'r angen am gyllid priodol ar gyfer anghenion dysgu ychwanegol? Rwy'n gwybod bod hynny'n rhywbeth rydych chi'n ymrwymedig iawn iddo. Roedd honno'n thema gref iawn yn ymchwiliad y pwyllgor, ond hefyd yn ein gwaith craffu ar y Bil pan oedd yn mynd drwodd. Roedd rhanddeiliaid yn dweud wrthym, 'Ni fydd yn gweithio oni chaiff ei ariannu'n iawn', felly rydym yn glir iawn ar hynny. Fe wnaethoch chi alw hefyd am gyllid wedi'i glustnodi ar gyfer ysgolion. Roeddwn yn aelod o'r pwyllgor cyllido ysgolion a gyfarfu yn 2005, tua 15 mlynedd yn ôl, a galwasom yno am ddiogelu cyllid ysgolion. Lleiafswm o gyllid fyddai - yr asesiad wedi'i seilio ar ddangosyddion fyddai'r lleiafswm y byddai'n rhaid ei wario yn ein hysgolion. Aeth yr adroddiad hwnnw a'r adroddiad a'i dilynodd - adolygiad Bramley - i'r blwch 'rhy anodd'. Dyna pam y gwnaf y pwynt na allwn ganiatáu i'r adolygiad sydd ar y ffordd fynd i'r blwch hwnnw hefyd. A gaf fi ddiolch i'r Gweinidog am ei hymateb ac am ei hymwneud parhaus â'r pwyllgor, ac am yr agwedd gadarnhaol y mae wedi'i dangos tuag at argymhellion y pwyllgor? Rwy'n falch iawn fod Luke Sibieta wedi'i benodi. Bydd yr Aelodau'n cofio iddo ymgysylltu â'r pwyllgor - fe wnaeth sesiwn gyda ni - ac mae'n arbenigwr cydnabyddedig. Byddwn yn parhau i ddilyn y gwaith hwnnw gyda diddordeb mawr ac yn gobeithio y bydd yn arwain at ganfyddiadau arwyddocaol iawn. A gaf fi gloi trwy ddiolch i bawb a roddodd dystiolaeth i'r pwyllgor ac a'n cefnogodd? I ailadrodd y pwynt a wneuthum, bydd yn rhaid i ni gael sgwrs aeddfed am hyn ar draws y pleidiau, ar draws y Llywodraeth ac ar draws llywodraeth leol, oherwydd mae angen i'r arian ddod o rywle. Ac rwy'n gobeithio y gallwn flaenoriaethu ein plant a'n pobl ifanc.