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English: This obelisk is in Picton Terrace - where else - in Carmarthen town, and it is a very tall, concrete memorial. I'm not sure quite how high it is, but it is very, very tall. It's something in the region of 25 ft, so it is a huge memorial. It's certainly not something that you could move without toppling it first and replacing it with something else. It's very different in terms of scale to the Picton memorial at City Hall in Cardiff.
Welsh: Mae'r obelisg yma yn Picton Terrace, wrth gwrs - ble arall - yn nhref Caerfyrddin, ac mae yn gofeb o goncrid, tal iawn. Dwi ddim yn siŵr iawn beth yw ei fesuriadau, ond mae e'n rhywbeth, buaswn i'n meddwl, fel 25 o droedfeddi - mae'n anferth o gofeb. Dyw e, yn sicr, ddim yn rhywbeth rŷch chi'n gallu symud heb eich bod chi'n ei ddymchwel e ac ail-greu rhywbeth yn ei le. Mae'n wahanol iawn o ran maint i'r gofeb i Picton sydd yn Neuadd y Ddinas yng Nghaerdydd.
English: Yes, I thought it was important for the public to understand what we were talking about here. So, you mentioned the questionnaire that was issued to people.
Welsh: Roeddwn i'n meddwl ei bod hi'n bwysig, jest i'r cyhoedd sy'n gwrando, i ddeall hynny. So, roeddech chi wedi creu'r holiadur yma a oedd yn mynd allan i bobl.
English: Thank you for sharing those with us, Cefin, and we do look forward to reading the report itself. So, I will now invite John Griffiths to ask the first set of questions. John.
Welsh: Diolch am rannu'r rhain gyda ni, Cefin, ac rydyn ni'n edrych ymlaen at weld yr adroddiad ei hun. So, mi wna'i ofyn i John Griffiths ddod mewn gyda'r set o gwestiynau cyntaf. John, os gwelwch yn dda.
English: Thank you, Chair. The questions I was going to ask have been answered, in a way. I do have one question. I think it would be beneficial to the committee if we could consider the report once it's published. I understand that there are a number of questions that can't be answered at the moment, with respect to the council, of course, and the council should know this first. But there are many things that Cefin has said that would be useful for us as committee to discuss when the time is right and when the council has had sight of the report. Just one thing - Cefin mentioned correspondence he'd received from right-wing groups. He mentioned Save our Statues. It wasn't clear if he was saying that they were a right-wing group or not, but he did name them, and we took evidence from them last week. Now, any correspondence would be available to the public through the relevant legislation, of course, but I was just wondering whether Cefin could give us some flavour of the case that Save our Statues was making in terms of what should happen to this memorial.
Welsh: Diolch, Gadeirydd. Mae'r cwestiynau roeddwn i'n mynd i'w gofyn wedi cael eu hateb, mewn ffordd. Mae yna un gyda fi. Rwy'n credu y byddai fe o les i'r pwyllgor petasem ni'n gallu ystyried yr adroddiad pan fydd e'n barod. Rwy'n deall bod yna lawer o gwestiynau sy'n ffaelu cael eu hateb ar hyn o bryd, er parch i'r cyngor, a'r cyngor ddylai, wrth gwrs, wybod gyntaf. Ond mae sawl peth mae Cefin wedi eu dweud rwy'n credu y byddan nhw o les i ni fel pwyllgor i ystyried pan fydd yr amser yn iawn a phan fydd y cyngor wedi gweld yr adroddiad. Jest un peth - gwnaeth Cefin sôn am ohebiaeth yr oedd wedi ei chael gan grwpiau o'r asgell dde. Gwnaeth e enwi Save our Statues yn enwedig. Dyw e ddim yn glir os oedd e'n dweud eu bod nhw'n rhan o'r asgell dde neu na, ond fe wnaeth e enwi Save our Statues. Wrth gwrs, fe glywsom ni dystiolaeth ganddyn nhw wythnos diwethaf. Nawr, byddai unrhyw ohebiaeth, wrth gwrs, ar gael i'r cyhoedd ta beth drwy'r ddeddfwriaeth, ond roeddwn i jest yn meddwl a fyddai Cefin yn gallu rhoi rhyw fath o flas i ni o ran beth oedd Save our Statues yn dadlau ynglŷn â beth ddylai ddigwydd i'r gofeb.
English: Essentially, they wanted us to retain the monument and make no changes to it at all. Thank you for that particular question, because it does give me an opportunity to say this: we had very many people of a military background writing to us. I know some of them personally, and I have great respect for them as individuals, and they were sincerely of the opinion that we needed to look at Picton solely as a military hero, and that doing anything to draw attention from that would detract from that military background, and because they had served in the armed forces, the navy or whatever else it may have been, that they felt that any slur on Picton was a slur on their calling as veterans and so on and so forth. And I accepted that as a sincerely held opinion. But, of course, what we argued was, well, yes, we have to accept that Picton was a war hero, but we cannot forget that he also had a different, more colourful history related to cruelty and violence against slaves, and that it would be unfair and unethical of us to ignore that part of his history.
Welsh: Yn y bôn, roedden nhw eisiau i ni gadw'r gofeb a pheidio â gwneud dim newidiadau o gwbl. Diolch am y cwestiwn arbennig yna, achos mae'n rhoi cyfle i fi ddweud hyn: fe gawsom ni lawer iawn, iawn o bobl gyda chefndir milwrol yn ysgrifennu atom ni. Dwi'n adnabod rhai ohonyn nhw'n bersonol, ac mae gen i'r parch mwyaf atyn nhw fel unigolion, ac roedden nhw'n gwbl ddidwyll yn credu bod yn rhaid i ni edrych ar Picton yn unig fel arwr milwrol, a bod gwneud unrhyw beth i dynnu sylw oddi wrth hynny yn gwneud cam â'r cefndir milwrol yna, a gan eu bod nhw wedi bod yn aelodau o'r lluoedd arfog neu o'r llynges neu beth bynnag, eu bod nhw'n teimlo bod unrhyw sarhad ar Picton yn sarhad ar eu galwedigaeth nhw fel cynfilwyr ac yn y blaen. Ac roeddwn i'n derbyn hynny fel safbwynt diffuant iawn. Ond, wrth gwrs, beth geisiom ni ddadlau oedd, ie, mae'n rhaid i ni dderbyn bod Picton yn arwr milwrol, ond allwn ni ddim ag anghofio chwaith bod ganddo fe hanes gwahanol, mwy lliwgar, ond hanes sy'n ymwneud â chreulondeb a thrais yn erbyn caethweision a'i bod hi'n annheg ac yn anfoesol i ni, a dweud y gwir, anghofio'r rhan yna o'i hanes e.
English: Thank you. That's enough for me, Chair. I've heard the evidence that I was looking for.
Welsh: Iawn. Mae hwnna'n ddigon i fi, Gadeirydd. Dwi wedi clywed y dystiolaeth roeddwn i eisiau.
English: Thank you, and thank you very much, Cefin. As David Melding has said, the session has been very interesting indeed for us. We do understand that you can't share the recommendations with us before the council has seen them, but as Carwyn Jones has said, once we have sight of the report, we may have further questions. Would you be happy for us to write to you and to the task and finish group? I know that there is broader work to be done by that group. If we do have any questions once we've read the report, that would be useful. Would that be okay? I don't want to create too much work for you, but if that's okay with you - .
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, a diolch yn fawr iawn i ti, Cefin. Fel mae David Melding wedi'i ddweud, mae wedi bod yn sesiwn hynod o ddiddorol i ni. Dŷn ni'n deall, wrth gwrs, dy fod ti ddim yn gallu rhannu'r argymhellion gyda ni cyn bod y cyngor wedi eu gweld nhw, ond, fel y mae Carwyn Jones wedi'i ddweud, unwaith rydym ni'n gweld yr adroddiad, efallai bydd yna gwestiynau pellach. Wyt ti'n hapus i ni ysgrifennu atat ti ac at y task a finish group? Dwi'n gwybod bod gwaith dal i'w wneud ar y gwaith ehangach dŷch chi'n ei wneud. Os oes cwestiynau gyda ni ar ôl gweld yr adroddiad, byddai hynny'n ddefnyddiol. Ydy hynny'n iawn? Dwi ddim eisiau creu llwyth o waith i ti, ond os yw hwnna'n iawn - .
English: I would be more than happy, because I do think that local authorities need to work very closely with the Senedd to ensure that we can all move together in dealing with an issue that is very contentious and can create local tensions.
Welsh: Byddwn i'n hapus dros ben, achos dwi yn meddwl bod angen i awdurdodau lleol gydweithio'n agos iawn gyda'r Senedd i sicrhau ein bod ni i gyd yn gallu symud gyda'n gilydd i ddelio â mater sydd yn fater dadleuol ac yn gallu creu tipyn o densiynau yn lleol.
English: Yes, and that's why we as a committee decided to undertake this work, so that we could try and see whether there is advice that we can provide to the Welsh Government as to how we can have these discussions in a constructive manner, and that's what you've sought to do in Carmarthenshire. And, as David said, it's good to have a practical example of work. Thank you once again, Cefin. I appreciate your time very much. It's been very useful to us. We will send you a transcript of this part of the meeting, so that you can check it for accuracy - that everything's been recorded properly. Once you read the transcript, if you think, 'I should have said this', or 'I could have added that', then please do write to us with any further information. And in addition to providing a copy of the report once it's ready, as David Melding mentioned, would it be okay for us to see a copy of the questionnaire too, which you sent out at the beginning of the process? Because, again, that could give us some ideas that we could share. Is that okay?
Welsh: Ie, a dyna pam dŷn ni, fel pwyllgor, wedi penderfynu gwneud y gwaith yma, fel ein bod ni'n gallu trio gweld os oes yna gyngor y gallwn ni ei roi i Lywodraeth Cymru ynglŷn â sut dŷn ni'n gallu cael y trafodaethau yma mewn ffordd adeiladol, a dyna beth dŷch chi wedi ceisio ei wneud, wrth gwrs, yn sir Gâr. So, fel mae David yn dweud, mae'n dda cael enghraifft ymarferol o waith. Diolch eto i ti, Cefin. Rwy'n gwerthfawrogi eich amser yn fawr. Mae wedi bod yn ddefnyddiol iawn. Fe wnawn ni anfon trawsgrifiad o'r rhan yma o'r cyfarfod atat ti, fel dy fod ti'n gallu sicrhau ei fod yn gywir a'n bod ni wedi cofnodi pethau'n iawn. Wrth i ti weld hwn, os wyt ti'n meddwl, 'Liciwn i petaswn i wedi dweud hyn', neu, 'Gallwn i fod wedi ychwanegu'r llall', plis ysgrifennwch atom ni. Ac yn ogystal â gweld copi o'r adroddiad pan mae e'n barod, fel gofynnodd David Melding, ydy e'n iawn i ni weld copi o'r holiadur wnaethoch chi ddanfon allan i ddechrau'r broses? Achos, eto, efallai bydd hynny'n rhoi syniadau i ni y medrwn ni eu rhannu. Ydy hynna'n iawn?
English: Yes, it would be a great pleasure to do so and good luck with this important work.
Welsh: Ydy, dim problem - y pleser mwyaf, a phob lwc i chi gyda'r gwaith pwysig yma.
English: Thank you very much and thank you for all the work that you've done. I know that it has been personally important to you in terms of your moral and ethical stance on these difficult issues and I know it hasn't been an easy process, so thank you very much for your work. You're welcome to leave us at this point, as we move to our next item. Thank you very much, Cefin.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn i ti a diolch am yr holl waith. Rwy'n gwybod ei bod hi wedi bod yn waith personnol iawn i ti o ran dy safiad pwysig moesol ynglŷn â'r issues anodd yma. Dyw e ddim wedi bod yn broses hawdd, dwi'n gwybod, so diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich gwaith. Croeso i chi ein gadael ni rŵan, fel ein bod yn symud at y darn nesaf. Diolch yn fawr iawn i ti, Cefin.
English: That brings the public part of our meeting to a close. I move under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) that we move into private session to have further discussion. Are Members content? Thank you very much. So, I request that the broadcast come to an end. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Felly, mae hwnna'n dod â rhan gyhoeddus cyfarfod heddiw i ben, a dwi'n cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 (ix) ein bod ni'n symud i mewn i sesiwn breifat i drafod ymhellach. Ydy Aelodau'n hapus i wneud hynny? Diolch yn fawr. Felly dwi'n gofyn i'r broadcast ddod i ben, os gwelwch yn dda. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
English: Thank you very much, Chair. Good afternoon, Minister. In terms of any proposed agreement with the European Union, as the Chair mentioned, it was the last supper last night - perhaps not the last supper, but we'll see. But, in the process of reaching any agreement with the European Union, could you confirm - do you expect that this Senedd will be expected to play a part in the ratification process?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Cadeirydd. Prynhawn da, Gweinidog. Yn nhermau unrhyw gytundeb arfaethedig efo'r Undeb Ewropeaidd, fel gwnaeth y Cadeirydd sôn, roedd y swper olaf neithiwr - efallai nid y swper olaf, ond cawn ni weld. Ond, yn y broses o unrhyw gytundeb efo'r Undeb Ewropeaidd, a allwch chi gadarnhau a ydych chi'n disgwyl y bydd yn ofynnol i'r Senedd hon chwarae rôl yn y broses o gadarnhau unrhyw gytundeb?
English: Well, I think that the Senedd will have a role, in terms of the fact that the Westminster Government will ask the Senedd to give its consent to any Bill that will emanate from the agreement to make the agreement a reality - that is, a legislative consent motion will come forward as a result of the legislation, if there is an agreement.
Welsh: Rwy'n credu y bydd gan y Senedd rôl, yn yr ystyr y bydd gofyn gan y Llywodraeth yn San Steffan i'r Senedd roi ei chydsyniad i unrhyw Fil ddaw allan er mwyn gwneud realiti o'r cytundeb - hynny yw, bydd LCM, rwy'n credu, yn dod yng nghyd-destun y ddeddfwriaeth a ddaw yn sgil hynny, os bydd cytundeb.
English: On the back of that, may I ask you to explain whether the Welsh Government expects subordinate legislation to be put forward in the Senedd to implement the terms of any agreement before 31 December?
Welsh: Felly, ar gefn hynny, a allaf bellach ofyn i chi egluro a ydy Llywodraeth Cymru yn disgwyl y bydd hi'n ofynnol iddi gyflwyno is-ddeddfwriaeth gerbron y Senedd er mwyn gweithredu telerau unrhyw gytundeb y deuir iddo cyn 31 Rhagfyr?
English: Well, the ratification will have to happen in Westminster before the end of the year, as you say. As we don't know at the moment what the results of the negotiations are, we don't know what the content of the legislation will be to make any agreement a reality. So, I can't answer your question in any detail. We haven't seen elements, for example, of that legislation. It is likely, in terms of the timeline, considering where we are at the moment regarding the number of days to go. I would expect to see that there won't be as much detail on the face of the Bill as one would think would be ideal, just because of the time that's remaining. And so that suggests that there will be a need for subordinate legislation, as you said, but I can't tell you how much of that there will be - that's not clear. But certainly there will be some subordinate legislation needed at short notice.
Welsh: Wel, bydd angen i'r ratification ddigwydd yn San Steffan cyn diwedd y flwyddyn, fel rŷch chi'n ei ddweud. Gan nad ydym ni ddim yn gwybod ar hyn o bryd beth yw canlyniad y negodiadau, dŷn ni ddim yn gwybod beth yw cynnwys y ddeddfwriaeth er mwyn gwneud realiti o unrhyw gytundeb. Felly, allaf i ddim ateb eich cwestiwn chi gydag unrhyw fanylder. Dŷn ni ddim wedi gweld elfennau, er enghraifft, o'r ddeddfwriaeth honno. Mae'n debyg, o ran amseru, o ystyried lle rydyn ni o ran y dyddiau sydd i fynd ac ati, buaswn i'n disgwyl gweld na fydd cymaint o fanylder efallai ar wyneb y Bil ag y buasech chi'n meddwl byddai'n ddelfrydol, jest oherwydd yr amser sydd ar ôl. Ac felly, mae hynny'n awgrymu y bydd angen deddfwriaeth eilaidd, fel rŷch chi'n sôn, ond allaf i ddim dweud wrthych chi faint o hynny fydd nac ym mha destunau - dyw hynny ddim yn glir. Ond yn sicr, bydd angen rhywfaint o hynny a bydd e mewn cyfnod byr iawn.
English: Thank you. Chair.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Cadeirydd.
English: Thank you very much, Chair. Turning now to issues with regard to the United Kingdom Internal Market Bill, Minister you'll remember we had a discussion in the Senedd this week on rejecting legislative consent for the internal market Bill. So, we'll try to avoid going over that old ground again, but there are technical issues that are important for this committee's consideration. So, in the first instance. Has the Welsh Government held discussions with UK Government on amendments to the UK internal market Bill? Did you have any discussions with regard to your amendments, or any other amendments? Can you explain why those discussions were unsuccessful, because clearly your amendments weren't selected? Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Cadeirydd. Troi nawr at faterion yn ymwneud â Bil Marchnad Fewnol y Deyrnas Unedig. Gweinidog, byddwch chi'n cofio y cawsom ni drafodaeth yn y Senedd yr wythnos yma ar wrthod cydsyniad deddfwriaethol y Senedd ynglŷn â Bil y farchnad fewnol. Felly, fe wnawn ni drio osgoi troedio'r hen dir, fel petai, ond mae yna rai materion technegol, felly, fydd o fudd i gofnodion y pwyllgor yma. Felly, allaf i ofyn yn y lle cyntaf - [ Anghlywadwy.] Ydych chi, fel Llywodraeth Cymru, wedi cynnal trafodaethau efo Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Unedig ar y gwelliannau i Fil Marchnad Fewnol y Deyrnas Unedig? Gawsoch chi unrhyw drafodaethau ynglŷn â'ch gwelliannau chi, neu unrhyw welliannau eraill? Allech chi egluro pam oedd y trafodaethau hynny'n aflwyddiannus, achos yn amlwg, nis dewiswyd eich gwelliannau chi? Diolch.
English: Yes, we did have discussions on a ministerial level. I had more than one meeting with Chloe Smith, the Minister in the UK Government. The most recent, I think, was just over a week ago. We've also had discussions between officials.
Welsh: Do, cafwyd trafodaethau gweinidogol. Ces i fwy nag un cyfarfod gyda Chloe Smith, y Gweinidog yn Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Yr un diweddaraf, rwy'n credu, oedd efallai ychydig mwy nag wythnos yn ôl. Mae trafodaethau hefyd wedi bod rhwng swyddogion.
English: But in terms of what the direction of those discussions was and the consequences, from our point of view as a Government, what we were doing was saying, 'We have a way through the dilemma that you've created for yourselves. We have amendments, and if you accept those amendments, you will have a path to come back from where you've reached.' So, it was a practical attempt in that regard. It was certainly true, I would say, that for periods in the process the UK Government was interested in those amendments, not in terms of a firm commitment to do anything about them, but to discuss how they would work practically if there was a desire amongst Ministers in Westminster to do something about them. For me, it was clear that some of those areas were beyond any possibility of having any flexibility on them. At the end of the day, I would say that one of the challenges - this is an impression, by the way - was that perhaps there wasn't an agreed stance within the UK Government on some of those issues that we were discussing.
Welsh: Ond o ran beth oedd hynt y trafodaethau hynny, o'n safbwynt ni fel Llywodraeth, yr hyn roeddem ni'n ei wneud oedd dweud, 'Mae gennym ni ffordd i chi drwy'r dilema rydych chi wedi ei greu i chi eich hunain. Mae gennym ni welliannau, ac os derbyniwch chi'r gwelliannau hynny, bydd gennych chi lwybr i ddod nôl o le chi wedi cyrraedd.' Felly, ymgais ymarferol oedd hynny. Roedd e'n sicr yn wir, fuaswn i'n dweud, am gyfnodau yn y broses fod diddordeb gan y Llywodraeth yn y gwelliannau hynny, nid o ran ymrwymiad i wneud unrhyw beth cadarn yn eu cylch nhw, ond er mwyn trafod sut fydden nhw'n gweithio yn ymarferol pe bai awydd ymhlith Gweinidogion yn San Steffan i wneud rhywbeth amdanyn nhw. Ond, yn sicr, i fi, roedd rhai o'r meysydd hynny tu hwnt i unrhyw bosibilrwydd fod unrhyw hyblygrwydd yn mynd i fod. Ar ddiwedd y dydd, fuaswn i'n dweud mai un o'r sialensau - ac argraff yw hyn, gyda llaw - oedd dwi ddim yn credu bod safbwynt gytûn efallai o fewn Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Gyfunol ar rai o'r pethau roeddem ni'n eu trafod.
English: Thank you very much for that very comprehensive response. Just moving on a little bit, if the UK Government were to proceed now without the consent of the Senedd and without the consent of the Scottish Parliament, as we now know, could you outline what the consequences of that will be, with the UK Government going forward and ignoring what we decided this week and what the Scottish Parliament has also decided with regard to giving consent? What will the results of that be, and have you had discussions along those lines to talk about those consequences with UK Ministers?
Welsh: Diolch am hynna - cynhwysfawr iawn. A allaf jest symud ymlaen ychydig bach? Pe bai Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Unedig nawr yn mynd ymlaen heb gydsyniad y Senedd a heb gydsyniad Senedd yr Alban, fel rydyn ni'n gwybod, allwch chi amlinellu beth fydd canlyniadau hynna, hynny yw, y Deyrnas Unedig yn mynd ymlaen ac anwybyddu beth wnaethom ni benderfynu wythnos yma, a beth mae Senedd yr Alban hefyd wedi'i benderfynu, i wrthod y cydsyniad yma? Beth ydych chi'n meddwl fydd canlyniadau hynna, ac ydych chi wedi cael trafodaethau ar hyd y llinellau yna i olrhain y canlyniadau efo Gweinidogion y Deyrnas Unedig?
English: We've certainly made it clear that we need to respect the Sewel convention in this regard, and that the UK Government should not proceed with the legislation if the devolved legislatures refused to give consent. We've given an opportunity for the Westminster Government not to be in that position, of course. We have been clear that there needs to be an overhaul of the convention. It's certainly not working in its current form, but, having said that, within the context of the current formula, this situation doesn't reach the threshold that needs to be reached to say that the Government could proceed without consent, in our view as a Government. 'Exceptional circumstances', 'unique circumstances', those were the kinds of words that Michael Gove and Stephen Barclay used when this happened last time. I wouldn't say that these circumstances are similar at all, so they shouldn't be proceeding without that consent.
Welsh: Yn sicr, rydym ni wedi'i gwneud yn glir bod angen parchu confensiwn Sewel yn hyn o beth, ac na ddylai Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Gyfunol fynd yn eu blaenau gyda'r ddeddfwriaeth os oedd y deddfwrfeydd datganoledig yn gwrthod cydsyniad. Rydym ni wedi rhoi cyfle, wrth gwrs, i'r Llywodraeth yn San Steffan i beidio â bod yn y sefyllfa honno. Rydym ni wedi bod yn glir bod angen diwygio sylfaenol - overhaul - ar y confensiwn. Dyw e yn sicr ddim yn gweithio i'w bwrpas yn y ffurf mae e nawr, ond, wedi dweud hynny, o fewn cyd-destun y fformiwla bresennol, dyw'r sefyllfa hon ddim yn cyrraedd y man sydd angen ei gyrraedd er mwyn dweud y gallai'r Llywodraeth fynd yn eu blaenau heb gydsyniad, yn ein barn ni fel Llywodraeth. ' Exceptional circumstances ', ' unique', dyna oedd y math o eirfa roedd Michael Gove a Stephen Barclay yn ei ddefnyddio pan ddigwyddodd hyn y tro diwethaf. Fyddwn i ddim yn dweud bod yr amgylchiadau hyn yn debyg o gwbl, felly dylen nhw ddim mynd yn eu blaenau heb gydsyniad.
English: Thank you for that, Minister, and further to that, may I ask whether the UK Government has told you as the Welsh Government when the Bill's provisions will be enacted, if passed?
Welsh: Diolch am hynna, Gweinidog, ac yn bellach i hynna, a allaf ofyn: ydy Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Unedig wedi dweud wrthoch chi fel Llywodraeth Cymru pryd y bydd darpariaethau'r Bil yn cael eu deddfu os cânt eu pasio?
English: No. Lord True said something about there not being a crisis in that regard, but there's been no sign in terms of a timeline beyond that.
Welsh: Na. Fe wnaeth yr Arglwydd True ddweud rhywbeth amboutu bod dim argyfwng presennol yn hyn o beth, ond does dim arwydd wedi bod o amseru tu hwnt i hynny.
English: Right, and a final question from me on this: is the Welsh Government in the process of developing a list of actions that will need to be taken to prepare for the enactment of the Bill, if passed?
Welsh: Reit, a'r cwestiwn olaf wrthyf i ynglŷn â hyn ydy: ydy Llywodraeth Cymru ar ganol datblygu rhestr o gamau y bydd angen inni eu cymryd i baratoi ar gyfer deddfu'r Bil os caiff ei basio?