English: This institution is 20 years old this year, which is a source of great pride for me, and I speak certainly on behalf of most Members here in the Chamber that we can look back at that event a little over 20 years ago where we decided to take that first step along the path of devolution and self-government to Wales, never mind how nervous that initial step was. But it was very clearly noted - and the term has been used many times since then - that it was a process that was being started then, not an event. That's what we saw at the end of the 1990s, and that process has progressed so much now that one could ask whether we are truly the same institution as the institution established in 1999. The answer to that is 'no, we are not'. This place was established under the Government of Wales Act 1998 as an Assembly with subordinate legislation powers. It was a corporate body with the Government and the legislature working as one. It was a spending body, with few financial powers that didn't have much in the way of teeth, which led to the Richard commission, which then led to a second Government of Wales Act in 2006 that separated the legislature and the Government, preparing the way for a referendum in 2011, which led to another kind of Assembly - a far more powerful Assembly, legislating for itself, and which would in time develop, as it has done now, into a tax-levying body, too. But what hasn't changed during that period is the capacity of this Assembly to respond to those additional demands that are placed upon us and that have developed as this institution has evolved. Now, because of the work of the Commission and the expert panel, superbly led by Laura McAllister, the case has been made now independently and in an impartial way in tackling that situation. I'm pleased to see a consensus developing on that, and there are good reasons why we should make progress in this area; we've heard many of them this afternoon. Our work as an Assembly is to hold Government to account. We do that not for our own sakes, not for the sake of our political parties, but on behalf of the people of Wales, and the people of Wales deserve to have faith in our capacity to hold the Government to account effectively. There are far too many of us wearing multiple hats in this place; I speak as Plaid Cymru chief whip and as spokesperson on finance, the economy and transport, as well as being a member of the Business Committee. It's not a matter of complaining about the workload but doubts about my ability to do my work as effectively as I should. I'm grateful to Jane Hutt for reminding us that she is wearing two hats today, speaking in one role rather than as a member of the Government. It does place unfair pressures on backbench members of the Government party - and I see the Member for Blaenau Gwent nodding enthusiastically - who are under unreasonable pressures in terms of workload because many are required to be Ministers within Government. And I think it's in the most recent area that we've moved into that we need to strengthen our capacity most, and that is taxation. We are moving towards a situation where we will raise £5 billion in taxation between local taxation and national taxation. It's a wonderful thing, but, as Adam Price said, although we have a Welsh Treasury, we don't have a Treasury committee, and we don't have the capacity to have that kind of committee. It is positive that there is consensus developing across political parties, although it's not unanimity, that we need to take these steps, but it's entirely right that we recognise the fact that the support is not unanimous among the public and nowhere near to being that. We wouldn't expect that. We're talking about increasing the number of politicians, and let's be realistic about people's instincts in that regard. But whilst recognising that, it's important that we are courageous enough to lead that debate as to why we want to make these changes; how democracy will be improved; how strengthening our Senedd will be a way of transforming and strengthening our politics in the face of evidence that is becoming more and more clear that the old system in Westminster is breaking down. Let us build rather than break down. And now is the time to strengthen and to consolidate what we have here. Of course, whilst much of the attention, understandably, will be focused on numbers, we have to look at this in the broader context of the need to reform the electoral arrangements too. It's important to bear that in mind, and that would truly strengthen our democracy. To conclude, the Member for Blaenau Gwent said earlier that he believed that our motion led to divisions rather than encouraging collaboration. I do reject that accusation and, indeed, I look forward to working with Alun Davies on the creation of this new Senedd that we so need, the new Senedd that the people of Wales deserve. Both of us are agreed on that. But it was important, it was crucial I think, to make the point that if this is something that Wales desperately needs in 2026, then the people of Wales deserve to see this change introduced now, or certainly by the 2021 election. Why would we commit ourselves to another unnecessary five years of an Assembly that -
Welsh: Mae'r sefydliad yma'n 20 oed eleni. Mae o'n destun balchder mawr i mi - dwi'n siarad, yn sicr, ar ran y rhan fwyaf o bobl yma yn y Siambr yma - ein bod ni'n gallu edrych yn ôl ar y digwyddiad hwnnw ychydig dros 20 mlynedd yn ôl lle gwnaethom ni benderfynu cymryd y cam cyntaf yna ar hyd llwybrau datganoli a hunanlywodraeth i Gymru, waeth pa mor nerfus oedd y cam cychwynnol hwnnw. Ond mi nodwyd yn glir iawn - a'r term wedi cael ei ddefnyddio sawl tro ers hynny - mai proses oedd yn dechrau bryd hynny. Nid un digwyddiad ynddo fo'i hun welsom ni ddiwedd y 1990au, ac mae'r broses honno wedi symud ymlaen gymaint erbyn hyn fel bod modd gofyn ydyn ni'n wir yr un sefydliad a gafodd ei sefydlu yn 1999 erbyn hyn, ac 'nac ydym' ydy'r ateb, mewn difrif. Mi sefydlwyd y lle yma dan Ddeddf Cymru fel Cynulliad â phwerau deddfu eilradd yn unig. Mi oedd o'n gweithredu fel corff corfforaethol, a'r Cynulliad a'r Llywodraeth yn gweithio fel un. Corff gwario oedd o, prin oedd ei ddannedd, digon prin i fod angen comisiwn Richard a wnaeth arwain at ail Ddeddf Cymru yn 2006 a oedd yn gwahanu'r Llywodraeth a'r ddeddfwrfa, yn paratoi'r ffordd at refferendwm 2011, a'r refferendwm a'r bleidlais gadarnhaol iawn honno yn sefydlu math arall o Gynulliad, un llawer mwy pwerus y tro hwn, yn deddfu drosto'i hun, ac a fyddai'n datblygu maes o law, fel mae o wedi gwneud erbyn hyn, yn gorff codi trethi hefyd. Ond beth sydd ddim wedi newid yn y cyfnod hwnnw o gwbl ydy capasiti'r Cynulliad yma i ymateb i'r gofynion ychwanegol yna sydd arnom ni ac sydd wedi datblygu wrth i'r corff esblygu. Rŵan, oherwydd gwaith y Comisiwn, yr ymchwiliad arbenigol rhagorol o dan arweiniad Laura McAllister, mae'r achos wedi cael ei wneud rŵan yn annibynnol, yn ddiduedd, dros fynd i'r afael â'r sefyllfa honno, a dwi'n falch o weld consensws yn datblygu ar hynny, ac mae yna resymau da iawn pam y dylem ni symud yn ein blaenau. Dŷn ni wedi clywed sawl rheswm yn barod. Ein gwaith ni fel Cynulliad ydy dal Llywodraeth i gyfrif. Dŷn ni'n gwneud hynny nid er ein mwyn ein hunain, nid er mwyn ein pleidiau gwleidyddol ni, ond ar ran pobl Cymru, ac mae pobl Cymru'n haeddu gallu cael ffydd yn ein capasiti ni i gadw'r Llywodraeth i gyfrif yn effeithiol. Mae yna lawer gormod ohonom ni'n gwisgo hetiau lluosog yn y lle yma. Dwi'n siarad fel prif chwip Plaid Cymru a'n llefarydd ni ar gyllid a'r economi a thrafnidiaeth ac aelod o'r Pwyllgor Busnes ac yn y blaen. Ac nid mater o gwyno am y gwaith ydy hynny ond amheuaeth ynglŷn â fy ngallu i i wneud fy ngwaith mor effeithiol ag y gallaf i. Dwi'n ddiolchgar iawn i Jane Hutt am ein hatgoffa ni ei bod hi'n gorfod gwisgo dwy het yma heddiw yma, yn siarad mewn un rôl yn hytrach na fel Aelod o'r Llywodraeth. Ac mae o'n golygu pwysau annheg ar Aelodau meinciau cefn y Llywodraeth eu hunain sydd o dan straen - a dwi'n gweld Aelod Blaenau Gwent yn nodio'n frwdfrydig dros hynny - sydd dan straen afresymol, mewn difrif, o ran y pwysau gwaith oherwydd, wrth gwrs, bod nifer sylweddol yn gorfod bod yn Weinidogion mewn Llywodraeth. A dwi'n meddwl, efallai, mai yn y maes mwyaf diweddar i ni symud i mewn iddo fo mae angen cryfhau ein capasiti ni fwyaf, sef trethiant. Dŷn ni'n symud tuag at sefyllfa lle byddwn ni'n codi, rhwng trethiannau canolog a threthiannau lleol, £5 biliwn o'n trethi ein hunain. Mae o'n wych o beth, ond, fel dywedodd Adam Price yn gynharach, er bod gennym ni Drysorlys Cymreig, does gennym ni ddim pwyllgor Trysorlys a does yna ddim o'r capasiti i gael un. Mae'n dda bod yna gonsensws yn datblygu ar draws pleidiau gwleidyddol, er nad unfrydedd, ein bod ni angen gwneud hyn, ond mae'n hollol iawn, wrth gwrs, i ni gydnabod nad ydy'r gefnogaeth yn unfrydol nac yn agos at fod yn unfrydol ymhlith y cyhoedd, a buaswn i ddim yn disgwyl iddo fo fod. Dŷn ni'n sôn am gynyddu nifer o wleidyddion, a gadewch i ni fod yn realistig ynglŷn â beth ydy greddfau pobl yn hynny o beth. Ond, tra'n cydnabod hynny, mae'n bwysig iawn ein bod ni'n ddigon dewr i arwain y drafodaeth yna ar pam ein bod ni eisiau gwneud hyn; sut mai democratiaeth well fydd y canlyniad; sut bod cryfhau ein Senedd ni yn fodd i drawsnewid a chryfhau ein gwleidyddiaeth ni, a hynny yn wyneb tystiolaeth fwyfwy clir fod yr hen drefn yn San Steffan yn torri i lawr. Gadewch i ni adeiladu yn hytrach na thorri i lawr. A rŵan ydy'r amser i gryfhau a chadarnhau - 'consolidate-io' - yr hyn sydd gennym ni. Wrth gwrs, tra bod llawer o'r sylw, yn ddealladwy, yn mynd i fod ar niferoedd, mae'n rhaid edrych ar hyn yn y cyd-destun ehangach o'r angen i ddiwygio trefniadau etholiadol hefyd. Mae'n bwysig cofio hynny, a byddai hynny'n wirioneddol yn cryfhau ein democratiaeth ni. I gloi, mi wnaeth Aelod Blaenau Gwent ddweud yn gynharach ei fod o'n credu bod ein cynnig ni heddiw'n creu rhaniadau yn hytrach nag annog cydweithio. Dwi'n gwrthod y cyhuddiad hwnnw, ac, yn wir, dwi'n edrych ymlaen at gydweithio efo Alun Davies ar greu'r Senedd newydd yma rydym ni ei hangen, y Senedd newydd mae pobl Cymru yn ei haeddu. Mae'r ddau ohonom ni'n gytûn ar hynny. Ond roedd hi'n bwysig iawn, yn hanfodol dwi'n meddwl, i wneud y pwynt yma, dwi'n meddwl: os ydy hwn yn rhywbeth sydd ei angen ar Gymru yn ddybryd yn 2026, mae pobl Cymru'n haeddu cael y newid yma rŵan, neu erbyn etholiad 2021. Pam y byddem ni'n 'commit-io' ein hunain i bum mlynedd arall diangen o Gynulliad y mae o -