English: Can I thank you, Minister, for your statement this afternoon? You are in a very difficult position; that's something I would accept. And I appreciate how tough these negotiations are for you, Minister; it's not easy at all. And it is regrettable, as you will agree as well - and as the RCN will agree - it is regrettable that we've got a further announcement of strike action in February. You mention in your statement, Minister, ways in which we can work together to restore confidence in the pay review body process. So, can I ask you for your assessment of that? What is your assessment of the pay review body process, please? You also mentioned payments - the one-off payments - and I appreciate that you said you worked across Government to look where you could find that additional funding. But that won't do anything, I would suggest, to stabilise the workforce, or attract people into the profession, which is a large part of the issues that we're talking about. Or do you think I'm wrong in making that assessment? You said in your statement, Minister, this afternoon, that, 'Unlike the UK Government, we are not responding to the strikes by bringing forward new, draconian laws that would trample over the devolution settlement and restrict workers' rights further.' Now, in your oral statement last week, you stated that the impact on capacity as a result of recent industrial action has placed additional pressures on our system. So, you must therefore agree with the International Labour Organization, which the TUC subscribes to, that minimum service levels are a proportionate way of balancing the right to strike with the need to maintain vital services, such as health services. Minister, the other issue, of course, is taking the pressure off our Welsh NHS, and we've seen how successful surgical hubs are in England. Where they've been introduced, we've seen the two-year wait virtually being eliminated in England, yet, in Wales, we've still got tens of thousands of people waiting for over two years for treatment. Now, I think that, last week, you almost lost your temper with me, Minister, saying, 'Look, you keep banging on about surgical hubs; well, we've got them, they exist.' But the reason I'm asking is because that's your response yourself - you've been saying that for some months to me - 'They exist, they exist.' But in freedom of information requests, in a written response to Andrew R.T. Davies at the end of November, just less than eight weeks ago, you responded to him, 'At present, there are no dedicated surgical hubs across Wales.' So, this is why I keep raising this with you, Minister, because we do get different answers on that point. And my final question to you, Minister, is, quite simply: do you think you will resolve the pay dispute any time soon?
Welsh: A gaf i ddiolch i chi, Gweinidog, am eich datganiad y prynhawn yma? Rydych chi mewn sefyllfa anodd iawn; mae hynny'n rhywbeth y byddwn i'n ei dderbyn. Ac rwy'n sylweddoli pa mor anodd yw'r trafodaethau hyn i chi, Gweinidog; dydi hyn ddim yn hawdd o gwbl. Ac mae'n destun gofid, fel y byddwch chi'n cytuno hefyd - ac fel y bydd yr RCN yn cytuno - mae'n destun gofid ein bod ni wedi cael cyhoeddiad arall am streicio ym mis Chwefror. Rydych chi'n sôn yn eich datganiad, Gweinidog, am ffyrdd y gallwn ni weithio gyda'n gilydd i adfer hyder ym mhroses y corff adolygu cyflogau. Felly, a gaf i ofyn i chi am eich asesiad chi o hynny? Beth yw eich asesiad o broses y corff adolygu cyflogau, os gwelwch yn dda? Fe wnaethoch chi hefyd sôn am daliadau - y taliadau untro - ac rwy'n gwerthfawrogi eich bod wedi dweud eich bod wedi gweithio ar draws y Llywodraeth i edrych ble y gallech chi ddod o hyd i'r cyllid ychwanegol hwnnw. Ond ni fydd hynny'n gwneud dim, byddwn i'n ei awgrymu, i sefydlogi'r gweithlu, na denu pobl i'r proffesiwn, sy'n rhan fawr o'r materion yr ydyn ni'n sôn amdanyn nhw. Neu ydych chi'n credu fy mod i'n anghywir wrth wneud yr asesiad hwnnw? Fe ddywedoch chi yn eich datganiad, Gweinidog, y prynhawn yma, 'Yn wahanol i Lywodraeth y DU, nid ydym yn ymateb i'r streiciau drwy gyflwyno deddfau newydd, llym a fyddai'n sathru ar y setliad datganoli ac yn cyfyngu ar hawliau gweithwyr ymhellach.' Nawr, yn eich datganiad llafar yr wythnos diwethaf, fe ddywedoch chi fod yr effaith ar gapasiti o ganlyniad i weithredu diwydiannol diweddar wedi rhoi pwysau ychwanegol ar ein system. Felly, mae'n rhaid eich bod chi felly yn cytuno â'r Sefydliad Llafur Rhyngwladol, y mae'r TUC yn tanysgrifio iddo, bod lefelau isafswm gwasanaeth yn ffordd gymesur o gydbwyso'r hawl i streicio â'r angen i gynnal gwasanaethau hanfodol, fel gwasanaethau iechyd. Gweinidog, y mater arall, wrth gwrs, yw tynnu'r pwysau oddi ar GIG Cymru, ac rydyn ni wedi gweld pa mor llwyddiannus y mae hybiau llawfeddygol yn Lloegr. Lle maen nhw wedi cael eu cyflwyno, rydyn ni wedi gweld y rhestr aros dwy flynedd o hyd mwy neu lai yn cael ei dileu yn Lloegr, ond eto, yng Nghymru, mae gennym ddegau o filoedd o bobl yn dal i aros am dros ddwy flynedd am driniaeth. Nawr, rwy'n credu, yr wythnos diwethaf, y bu bron i chi golli eich tymer gyda mi, Gweinidog, gan ddweud, 'Edrychwch, rydych chi'n cadw sôn am hybiau llawfeddygol; wel, mae gynnon ni nhw, maen nhw'n bodoli.' Ond y rheswm rwy'n gofyn yw oherwydd dyna eich ymateb eich hun - rydych chi wedi bod yn dweud hynny ers rhai misoedd i mi - 'Maen nhw'n bodoli, maen nhw'n bodoli.' Ond mewn ceisiadau rhyddid gwybodaeth, mewn ymateb ysgrifenedig i Andrew R.T. Davies ddiwedd mis Tachwedd, llai nag wyth wythnos yn ôl, fe wnaethoch chi ymateb iddo gan ddweud, 'Ar hyn o bryd, nid oes hybiau llawfeddygol pwrpasol ledled Cymru.' Felly, dyma pam rwy'n cadw codi hyn gyda chi, Gweinidog, oherwydd rydyn ni'n cael atebion gwahanol ar y pwynt hwnnw. A fy nghwestiwn olaf i chi, Gweinidog, yn syml iawn, yw: ydych chi'n credu y byddwch chi'n datrys yr anghydfod cyflog cyn bo hir?