English: So, will you therefore - ? Envases, as Adam Price said, the company by that site, has said that they would be interested in purchasing it, and it's been empty for so much time. Why have you not invested in this land prior to now? Because it's on an industrial park, it's your obligation to do that. I said - I didn't say we wouldn't be political; I said we are working cross party, and we are working with Members of your own party in Port Talbot who are opposing this development, and I would gladly carry on working with them for as long as we can in this regard. I won't have time to go through everybody's comments, but I do take issue with some of the comments from Suzy Davies, who is usually quite progressive, as opposed to being a mouthpiece for the Conservative Party on a UK level. I mentioned, many times, about rehabilitating prisoners. We do not want - . I speak to prisoners about this and they themselves say they do not want to have a superprison, that that does not aid them. They call them 'warehouses', they say they are churned in and out of the system. That is why we are fundamentally opposing this. I'm not sure that it's worth going through all comments, but I did think that it was important to hear what Lee Waters said in relation to a justice commission for Wales, but we know that Labour MPs on a UK level have opposed criminal justice being devolved to this place, so I would hope, through this justice commission for Wales, that we can see those MPs changing their minds. I hope that David Rees, as the local Member who spoke so eloquently here today, will be supporting the Plaid Cymru motion, as I hope other Members of your party will, because you spoke strongly as to why this area should be used for economic development, and why, from research you've done and others have done, that you cannot find strong reasons as to why a superprison should be built in Port Talbot. So, I look forward to working with you further on that. I will bring my comments to a close, but this is not about trying to alienate or to talk down prisoners. We all, in this room, know how we want to support them and rehabilitate them, and we all have people who come to us in our communities to say how that should be done. But privatising the probation service is not going to help aid that process either, and I think we all have to work together to ensure - [Interruption.]
Welsh: Felly, a wnewch chi - ? Fel y dywedodd Adam Price, mae Envases, y cwmni wrth ymyl y safle hwnnw, wedi dweud y byddai ganddynt ddiddordeb yn ei brynu, ac mae wedi bod yn wag ers cymaint o amser. Pam nad ydych wedi buddsoddi yn y tir hwn cyn nawr? Oherwydd ei fod ar barc diwydiannol, mae'n ddyletswydd arnoch i wneud hynny. Dywedais - ni ddywedais na fyddem yn wleidyddol; dywedais ein bod yn gweithio'n drawsbleidiol, ac rydym yn gweithio gydag aelodau o'ch plaid eich hun ym Mhort Talbot sy'n gwrthwynebu'r datblygiad hwn, a buaswn yn falch o barhau i weithio gyda hwy cyhyd ag y gallwn yn hyn o beth. Ni fydd gennyf amser i fynd drwy sylwadau pawb, ond rwy'n gwrthwynebu rhai o'r sylwadau gan Suzy Davies, sydd fel arfer yn eithaf blaengar, yn hytrach na llefarydd ar ran y Blaid Geidwadol ar lefel y DU. Fe soniais, sawl gwaith, am adsefydlu carcharorion. Nid ydym eisiau - . Rwy'n siarad â charcharorion am hyn ac maent hwy eu hunain yn dweud nad ydynt am gael uwch garchar, nad yw hynny'n eu cynorthwyo. Maent yn eu galw'n 'warysau', maent yn dweud eu bod yn cael eu lluchio i mewn ac allan o'r system. Dyna pam ein bod yn gwrthwynebu hyn yn sylfaenol. Nid wyf yn siŵr ei bod yn werth mynd drwy'r holl sylwadau, ond roeddwn yn meddwl ei bod yn bwysig clywed yr hyn a ddywedodd Lee Waters mewn perthynas â chomisiwn cyfiawnder i Gymru, ond rydym yn gwybod bod ASau Llafur ar lefel y DU yn erbyn gweld cyfiawnder troseddol yn cael ei ddatganoli i'r lle hwn, felly byddwn yn gobeithio, drwy'r comisiwn gyfiawnder i Gymru, y gallwn weld yr ASau hynny'n newid eu meddyliau. Gobeithiaf y bydd David Rees, fel yr Aelod lleol a siaradodd mor huawdl yma heddiw, yn cefnogi cynnig Plaid Cymru, fel y gobeithiaf y bydd Aelodau eraill o'ch plaid yn ei wneud, gan eich bod wedi siarad yn gryf ynglŷn â pham y dylid defnyddio'r ardal hon ar gyfer datblygu economaidd, a pham, o ymchwil a wnaethoch ac y mae eraill wedi'i wneud, na allwch ddod o hyd i resymau cryf pam y dylid adeiladu uwch garchar ym Mhort Talbot. Felly, edrychaf ymlaen at weithio gyda chi ymhellach ar hynny. Fe ddof â fy sylwadau i ben, ond nid yw hyn yn ymwneud â cheisio dieithrio neu fychanu carcharorion. Rydym i gyd, yn yr ystafell hon, yn gwybod sut yr ydym eisiau eu cefnogi a'u hadsefydlu, ac mae gan bawb ohonom bobl sy'n dod atom yn ein cymunedau i ddweud sut y dylid gwneud hynny. Ond nid yw preifateiddio'r gwasanaeth prawf yn mynd i helpu i gynorthwyo'r broses honno chwaith, ac rwy'n meddwl bod yn rhaid i ni i gyd weithio gyda'n gilydd i sicrhau - [Torri ar draws.]