English: To an extent, that group is the key to the success of increasing the number of services available in Welsh in Wales. They, of course, self-define themselves when they're responding to surveys. There are some who speak two words who say they can speak Welsh, and others who can speak but aren't confident who say that they can't. So, there is a middle ground. There is an example, I know, in the youth services area - I won't name the county - where they thought they couldn't provide anything in Welsh because they didn't have the staff. But, after asking staff in a different way, they discovered of course that they had a cohort of people who could speak Welsh but didn't have much confidence. So, giving them the confidence to use the language in work was much easier and possible to do than recruiting people who were Welsh speakers and more significant changes to the system. There are also examples in health boards. The National Centre for Learning Welsh has been working with health boards specifically to discover these people. I know of an example recently: there are mental health services through the medium of Welsh in Carmarthenshire now that exist because of work that has been happening to upskill the confidence of people who have the language skills you're talking about. So, to me, they are an incredibly important cohort. But, I would go back another step and say that the responsibility isn't always on the person. We're not blaming the person that they haven't got the confidence. What are the circumstances? Do they have the freedom to speak Welsh that's less than perfect without criticism? Are people worried about their standard of Welsh, or do you enjoy hearing people speak Welsh and listening to them and giving them time? So, you've pointed your finger there to an extremely important cohort of people in Wales, and there are many of them.
Welsh: I raddau, y grŵp yna yw'r allwedd i lwyddiant cynyddu nifer y gwasanaethau sydd ar gael yn Gymraeg yng Nghymru. Maen nhw, wrth gwrs, yn hunanddiffinio wrth ymateb i arolygon. Mae yna rai sy'n siarad dau air sy'n dweud eu bod nhw'n gallu siarad Cymraeg, ac mae rhai sy'n gallu siarad ond ddim yn hyderus yn dweud eu bod nhw ddim. Felly, mae yna ddarn yn y canol. Mae yna enghraifft, dwi'n gwybod, ym maes gwasanaethau ieuenctid - wna i ddim enwi'r sir - lle'r oedden nhw'n meddwl eu bod nhw'n methu darparu dim byd yn Gymraeg achos bod dim staff gyda nhw. Ond, o fynd i holi'r staff mewn ffordd wahanol, fe wnaethon nhw ddarganfod wrth gwrs fod gyda nhw garfan o bobl oedd yn gallu siarad Cymraeg ond yn ddihyder. Felly, roedd rhoi hyder iddyn nhw ddefnyddio'r Gymraeg yn y gwaith yn llawer haws i'w wneud ac yn bosib i'w wneud na recriwtio pobl sy'n siarad Cymraeg ac aildrefnu mwy sylweddol i'r system. Mae yna enghreifftiau hefyd mewn byrddau iechyd. Mae'r Ganolfan Dysgu Cymraeg Genedlaethol wedi bod yn gweithio gyda byrddau iechyd yn benodol i ddarganfod y bobl yma. Dwi'n gwybod am enghraifft yn ddiweddar: mae yna wasanaethau iechyd meddwl trwy gyfrwng y Gymraeg nawr yn sir Gaerfyrddin sy'n bodoli oherwydd gwaith sydd wedi digwydd i uwchsgilio hyder y math o bobl â'r sgiliau iaith rwyt ti'n sôn amdanyn nhw. Felly, i fi, maen nhw'n garfan hynod o bwysig. Ond, byddwn i'n mynd nôl cam eto a dweud nad yw'r cyfrifoldeb wastad ar y person. Dydyn ni ddim yn beio'r person fod dim digon o hyder gyda nhw. Beth yw'r amgylchfyd? Ydyn nhw'n cael y rhyddid i siarad Cymraeg llai na pherffaith heb feirniadaeth? Ydy pobl yn poeni sut beth yw eu Cymraeg nhw, neu ydych chi wrth eich bodd eich bod chi'n clywed rhywun yn siarad Cymraeg ac yn gwrando arnyn nhw ac yn rhoi amser iddyn nhw? Felly, rydych chi wedi rhoi eich bys ar garfan bwysig iawn o bobl yng Nghymru, ac mae yna lawer iawn ohonyn nhw.