English: You've set great store, Cabinet Secretary, as did the First Minister yesterday, by the parliamentary review but, of course, the parliamentary review was published too late to influence these proposals from Hywel Dda. So, will you join me today in urging Hywel Dda to withdraw these proposals until we have had time to consider the parliamentary review - how it might be applied throughout Wales, and how this mature conversation that you're seeking for us to have can be had on that basis without us dealing with individual proposals to close hospitals, which, to be frank, will not allow any of us to engage in that sort of mature debate that you're urging us to do? It would be far better, would it not, for us to consider that parliamentary review, which was only published last week, and to do that and to urge all health boards to look at how we consider the review and then to implement a series of consultations with their local populations, based on the principles of that review? You're putting the cart before the horse if you now allow Hywel Dda to go ahead with a series of consultations, some of which will be highly contentious, that are not able to be influenced by that parliamentary review at all. And you are at risk, therefore, of losing some of that widespread sharing of concern and support that you've built up around the parliamentary review. I would also like to invite you to join with your own Labour colleagues in Preseli Pembrokeshire. Paul Miller, the candidate in 2015, stood on a platform of restoring the paediatric services to Withybush; indeed, I remember him saying that he'd had three meetings with Steve Moore - incredible; three meetings, just imagine it, with Steve Moore - to discuss how they could be restored. We were all waiting for those paediatric services to be restored. They had been taken away temporarily, if I can remind you - not as a decision of a consultation, but temporarily taken away due to recruitment difficulties. Surely, to restore some sort of trust of local people to allow us to have the serious debate that you're asking to emerge from the parliamentary review, you would first restore the paediatric services at Withybush so that people have the trust back again and then ask Hywel Dda not to proceed with this consultation until we've fully considered the parliamentary review.
Welsh: Rydych wedi rhoi pwys mawr, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, fel y gwnaeth y Prif Weinidog ddoe, ar yr adolygiad seneddol, ond wrth gwrs, cyhoeddwyd yr adolygiad seneddol yn rhy hwyr i ddylanwadu ar yr argymhellion hyn gan Hywel Dda. Felly, a wnewch chi ymuno â mi heddiw i annog Hywel Dda i dynnu'r cynigion hyn yn ôl hyd nes y byddwn wedi cael amser i ystyried yr adolygiad seneddol - sut y gellid ei roi ar waith ledled Cymru, a sut y gellir cael y sgwrs aeddfed hon rydych yn awyddus inni ei chael ar y sail honno heb i ni fynd i'r afael ag argymhellion unigol i gau ysbytai, na fydd, i fod yn onest, yn caniatáu i unrhyw un ohonom gymryd rhan mewn dadl aeddfed fel rydych yn ein hannog i wneud? Oni fyddai'n well o lawer pe baem yn ystyried yr adolygiad seneddol hwnnw, a gyhoeddwyd yr wythnos diwethaf, ac yn gwneud hynny ac yn annog pob bwrdd iechyd i edrych ar sut rydym yn ystyried yr adolygiad cyn rhoi cyfres o ymgynghoriadau ar waith gyda'u poblogaethau lleol, yn seiliedig ar egwyddorion yr adolygiad hwnnw? Byddech yn rhoi'r drol o flaen y ceffyl pe baech yn caniatáu i Hywel Dda fwrw ymlaen gyda chyfres o ymgynghoriadau, rhai ohonynt yn hynod ddadleuol, nad oes modd i'r adolygiad seneddol ddylanwadu arnynt o gwbl. Ac rydych mewn perygl, felly, o golli peth o'r cyd-awydd a'r gefnogaeth eang a gafodd ei meithrin gennych yng nghyswllt yr adolygiad seneddol. Hoffwn eich gwahodd hefyd i ymuno â'ch cyd-aelodau Llafur ym Mhreseli, Sir Benfro. Roedd Paul Miller, yr ymgeisydd yn 2015, yn sefyll dros adfer y gwasanaethau pediatrig yn ysbyty Llwynhelyg; yn wir, rwy'n ei gofio'n dweud ei fod wedi cael tri chyfarfod gyda Steve Moore - rhyfeddol; tri chyfarfod, dychmygwch, gyda Steve Moore - i drafod sut y gellid eu hadfer. Roedd pob un ohonom yn aros i'r gwasanaethau pediatrig hynny gael eu hadfer. Roeddent wedi cael eu diddymu dros dro, os caf eich atgoffa - nid o ganlyniad i benderfyniad ymgynghoriad, ond eu diddymu dros dro oherwydd anawsterau recriwtio. Er mwyn adfer rhyw fath o ymddiriedaeth ymysg pobl leol i ganiatáu inni gael y ddadl ddifrifol rydych yn gofyn i'r adolygiad seneddol esgor arni, does bosibl na fyddech yn adfer gwasanaethau pediatrig yn ysbyty Llwynhelyg yn gyntaf fel y gellir adfer ymddiriedaeth pobl, a gofyn i Hywel Dda beidio â bwrw ymlaen â'r ymgynghoriad hwn hyd nes y byddwn wedi ystyried yr adolygiad seneddol yn llawn.