English: I wouldn't accept that. I don't think that, by trying to create one large organisation that tries to do everything, you're necessarily going to get the best results out of that. We feel strongly that the Welsh Language Board was an organisation that was trying to do too many things, fundamentally, and that it didn't succeed in that regard. That's why we have this Measure. When the Measure was introduced, and it was decided that promotion should go into the Government, I was relatively supportive of that, but looking back on that, I don't believe that it has worked, and that's why we believe that there is a need for a separate promotion body. But, of course, it's also very important that there is a department within Welsh Government that does promote the Welsh language, because, as Heini said, the Government has great power and influence over everything that happens in Wales, and unless there is also a powerful department within Government to promote the Welsh language, then there is a risk that we miss out on opportunities on some of the plans Heini was talking about, like education, planning and so on. So, we need a body outwith the Government and also within Government. And we think that, of all the things that we need to see happening, and all the things that are happening at the moment to revive the Welsh language, one of the things that does work at the moment is the commissioner and the standards. So, we would caution against playing around with that when there is a great deal we could do without legislating, without amending the legislation, in order to ensure that the other things are in place as well.
Welsh: Fyddwn i ddim yn derbyn hynny. Nid wyf yn meddwl eich bod chi o reidrwydd, drwy geisio creu un corff mawr sy'n gwneud pob peth, yn mynd i gael y canlyniadau gorau allan o hynny. Rydym ni'n teimlo'n gryf fod bwrdd yr iaith yn gorff a oedd yn trio gwneud gormod o bethau, yn y bôn, a ddim wedi llwyddo yn hynny o beth. A dyna pam y daeth y Mesur yma i fodoli. Pan ddaeth y Mesur o gwmpas, a phan benderfynwyd bod hyrwyddo'n mynd i mewn i'r Llywodraeth, roeddem ni'n lled gefnogol o hynny. Rydw i'n meddwl, o edrych yn ôl, nid yw hynny'n gweithio, ac felly, dyna pam rydym ni yn credu bod angen corff i hybu ar wahân. Ond, wrth gwrs, mae'n hollbwysig hefyd fod yna isadran neu adran o fewn Llywodraeth Cymru sy'n hybu'r Gymraeg, achos, fel yr oedd Heini'n sôn, y Llywodraeth - mae gan y Llywodraeth rym mawr a dylanwad mawr dros bopeth sy'n digwydd yng Nghymru, ac os nad oes yna adran rymus o fewn y Llywodraeth hefyd i hybu'r Gymraeg, rydw i'n meddwl bod peryg inni golli cyfleoedd ar rai o'r meysydd yr oedd Heini'n sôn amdanyn nhw, fel addysg, cynllunio ac ati. Felly, mae angen gwaith hybu y tu allan i'r Llywodraeth. Mae ei angen o fewn y Llywodraeth hefyd, ac rydym ni'n meddwl, o'r holl bethau sydd angen iddyn nhw ddigwydd, a'r holl bethau sy'n digwydd ar hyn o bryd i adfywio'r Gymraeg, fel yr oeddech chi'n sôn, un o'r rhai sy'n gweithio ar hyn o bryd, yn ein barn ni, yw'r comisiynydd a'r safonau. Ac felly, byddem ni'n rhybuddio yn erbyn chwarae o gwmpas â hynny pan mae llawer y gallem ni ei wneud heb ddeddfu, heb addasu'r ddeddfwriaeth, er mwyn sicrhau bod y pethau eraill mewn lle hefyd.