English: This isn't a matter of concern just for nationalists. This is a matter of concern for democrats, and I think there should be a strong message from our Welsh Parliament to the Spanish and the Catalan Parliaments that the principle of consent must be central to any democratic country. I was appalled at the events over the summer and recently - the way the Spanish Government dealt in a completely disproportionate and undemocratic way with the perfectly legitimate demands of the Catalan people for a right to express their self-determination in a referendum. For several years, the Spanish Government have denied that simple right that we take for granted in these islands - the principle of consent. I recognise that, across Europe, secession is not treated in the same way as we in this country have come to treat secession. It's to the credit of the UK Government that, when Scotland made demands for an independence referendum, even though they disagreed with those demands, the UK Government allowed that referendum to be held and made it clear that they would abide by the result of that referendum. And that principle should apply throughout Europe. I was disgusted, really, that the European Union, which many in this Chamber believed to be a force for peace, democracy and stability over the last 70 years, stood silent while the rights of a constituent part were trampled over. It might have had some explanation within an article over the weekend by the Spanish Prime Minister, thanking Theresa May for standing by the Spanish Government over recent months, and that it wouldn't be forgotten when it came to the Brexit negotiations. That might provide some insight into the internal politics that were going on within European member Governments to explain their silence in this regard. I don't support Catalan independence. I spent some time in Catalonia over the summer and spoke to a number of people living there who were uneasy with the demands for Catalan independence. This is one of the richest parts of Spain, and its loss from the country would be a clear blow to social justice across the whole country. So, I completely understand the anxieties of the majority of people from the polls in Catalonia. But surely it is right that they were given the chance to express themselves legitimately in a proper referendum, and the continued refusal of the Spanish Government to do that brings shame on them. The way that peaceful protesters were trampled on and their leaders imprisoned is a stain on the whole of Europe, and I think it's right that our Parliament sends a loud and clear signal that we think that this is unacceptable. Diolch.
Welsh: Nid mater o bryder i genedlaetholwyr yn unig yw hyn. Mae'n fater o bryder i ddemocratiaid, a chredaf y dylid cael neges gref gan ein Senedd yng Nghymru i seneddau Catalonia a Sbaen fod yn rhaid i egwyddor cydsyniad fod yn ganolog i unrhyw wlad ddemocrataidd. Cefais fy arswydo gan y digwyddiadau dros yr haf ac yn ddiweddar - y ffordd yr ymdriniodd Llywodraeth Sbaen mewn ffordd gwbl anghymesur ac annemocrataidd â galwadau cwbl ddilys pobl Catalonia am hawl i fynegi eu hunanbenderfyniad mewn refferendwm. Ers nifer o flynyddoedd, mae Llywodraeth Sbaen wedi gwrthod yr hawl syml honno a gymerwn yn ganiataol yn yr ynysoedd hyn - egwyddor cydsyniad. Rwy'n cydnabod, ar draws Ewrop, nad yw ymwahaniad yn cael ei drin yn yr un modd ag yr ydym ni yn y wlad hon wedi dod i drin ymwahaniad. Mae'n glod i Lywodraeth y DU, pan alwodd yr Alban am refferendwm ar annibyniaeth, er eu bod yn anghytuno â'r galwadau hynny, fod Llywodraeth y DU wedi caniatáu'r refferendwm hwnnw ac wedi ei gwneud hi'n glir y byddai'n dal at ganlyniad y refferendwm hwnnw. A dylai'r egwyddor honno fod yn gymwys ledled Ewrop. Roedd yn wrthun i mi, mewn gwirionedd, fod yr Undeb Ewropeaidd, y credai llawer o'r bobl yn y Siambr hon ei fod yn rym dros heddwch, democratiaeth a sefydlogrwydd dros y 70 mlynedd diwethaf, wedi aros yn ddistaw tra oedd hawliau rhan gyfansoddol yn cael eu sathru. Efallai fod erthygl dros y penwythnos gan Brif Weinidog Sbaen yn egluro rhywfaint ar hynny, lle roedd yn diolch i Theresa May am sefyll gyda Llywodraeth Sbaen dros y misoedd diwethaf, ac na fyddai hynny'n cael ei anghofio yn y negodiadau Brexit. Gallai hynny daflu rhyw oleuni ar y wleidyddiaeth fewnol a oedd yn digwydd ymhlith aelod-lywodraethau Ewropeaidd sy'n esbonio eu distawrwydd yn hyn o beth. Nid wyf yn cefnogi annibyniaeth Catalonia. Treuliais beth amser yng Nghatalonia dros yr haf a siaradais â nifer o bobl sy'n byw yno a oedd yn anghyffyrddus gyda'r galwadau am annibyniaeth Catalonia. Dyma un o'r rhannau cyfoethocaf o Sbaen, a byddai ei cholli o'r wlad yn ergyd glir i gyfiawnder cymdeithasol ar draws y wlad gyfan. Felly, rwy'n deall yn llwyr y pryderon a oedd gan y rhan fwyaf o'r bobl o'r bleidlais yng Nghatalonia. Ond does bosibl nad yw'n iawn eu bod wedi cael cyfle i fynegi eu hunain yn gyfreithlon mewn refferendwm priodol, ac mae'r modd y mae Llywodraeth Sbaen yn parhau i wrthod gwneud hynny'n dwyn cywilydd arnynt. Mae'r ffordd y cafodd protestwyr heddychlon eu sathru a'r modd y cafodd arweinwyr eu carcharu yn staen ar Ewrop gyfan, a chredaf ei bod yn iawn i'n Senedd anfon neges glir ein bod yn credu bod hyn yn annerbyniol. Diolch.