English: Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. I have listened with interest and, at times, despair to all that has been said this afternoon. Now, whilst undoubtedly the motion is in order, this is a debate that we should not be having. The debate should not be whether we should reintroduce grammar schools in Wales - part of an outmoded, divisive system of education that was abandoned in our country nearly 50 years ago. The debate should be on how we make sure that all - and I mean all - of our children have a first-class education. My focus is on improving education in all of our classrooms, in all of our schools, for all of our pupils. And, frankly, I am less than interested in structures. That is not my priority. It is the quality of education that makes a difference to young people's lives, and not what type of school they go to. And I certainly, Presiding Officer, don't think that looking backwards to a highly rose-tinted past is in Wales's best interests. The motion proposed by Michelle Brown flies in the face of international evidence. Two weeks ago, I visited the Organisation of Economic Co-operation and Development - the OECD. I met with world-leading experts such as Andreas Schleicher, and the international evidence from the OECD is clear: selection in schools systems is not - and I repeat, not - linked to improving scores. And neither is it linked to increasing social mobility. This has been reinforced by evidence from the Sutton Trust that has already been referred to today by Lynne Neagle, the Chair of the education committee, and Llyr Huws Gruffydd. They found that less than 3 per cent of grammar school children were on free school meals, compared with 20 per cent across the rest of the country. And even the current OFSTED chief has held his head in despair at proposals across the border and has said that they do nothing - and I repeat, grammar schools do nothing - to improve social mobility. Presiding Officer, when the OECD undertook their review of education in Wales in 2013, they did not pull any punches. They were very clear and very direct about the challenges facing our education system, and they are challenges that I am up for tackling. They identified very clearly what needed to change, but they also identified that our comprehensive system here in Wales is one of our strengths. Why would we want to change that? That is why I will support Paul Davies's first amendment to the motion here this afternoon. But, just like Llyr Huws Gruffydd, I am slightly confused, because it was only a fortnight ago that the Tory education spokesperson was saying that there was plenty of evidence to support grammar schools in terms of social mobility, and, I quote, 'Parents and young people should not be denied the opportunity to choose a grammar school'. Now, I am putting that down to a very enthusiastic press officer who maybe got the line out before Darren had seen it. [Interruption.] But I welcome very much indeed today the very clear statement that the Conservatives will not support a return to selective education. Our drive to improve standards is evidence based, from the curriculum reform - . And I would say to Mr McEvoy, if you want to know what this Welsh Government wants out of its education system, then read Donaldson. It is quite clear - quite clear. From curriculum reform to improving pedagogical practices, that's what we are about, and I am keen to ensure that we are making the right progress. That is why, when I did meet the OECD, I asked them to return to Wales and advise me on whether we do have the right strategies in place to respond to their review published in 2014, and they will be doing that this very autumn. I am serious about learning from the best around the world in the interests of Wales, and that is why I do oppose Paul Davies's second amendment to the motion. Our policies are about raising standards in all of our schools, so that every child, no matter where they live, has the best possible learning experience. [Interruption.] No, Darren. Parental choice shouldn't just be about who can clamour the loudest to get into the best schools. Every school in Wales should be outstanding, and the OECD again, Darren, recognises that high-performing schools systems have at their heart systems of co-operation, and not the competition that is implicit in your amendment. I do, however, support Paul Davies's third and fourth amendments this afternoon. It is right that secondary education should be diverse. It is right that secondary education should have a rich academic and vocational offer. It's right that we should have an education that provides the best opportunities for all young people.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Lywydd. Rwyf wedi gwrando gyda diddordeb, ac anobaith ar adegau, ar bopeth sydd wedi cael ei ddweud y prynhawn yma. Nawr, er bod y cynnig mewn trefn yn ddi-os, mae hon yn ddadl na ddylem fod yn ei chael. Nid a ddylem ailgyflwyno ysgolion gramadeg yng Nghymru ddylai'r cynnig fod - ysgolion sy'n rhan o system addysg hen ffasiwn, ymrannol y rhoddwyd y gorau iddi yn ein gwlad bron i 50 mlynedd yn ôl. Dylai'r drafodaeth ymwneud â sut rydym yn gwneud yn siŵr fod pob un - ac rwy'n golygu pob un - o'n plant yn cael addysg o'r radd flaenaf. Mae fy ffocws ar wella addysg ym mhob un o'n hystafelloedd dosbarth, ym mhob un o'n hysgolion, ac i bob un o'n disgyblion. Ac a dweud y gwir, nid oes gennyf fawr o ddiddordeb mewn strwythurau. Nid dyna fy mlaenoriaeth. Ansawdd yr addysg sy'n gwneud gwahaniaeth i fywydau pobl ifanc, nid pa fath o ysgol y maent yn ei mynychu. Ac yn sicr, Lywydd, nid wyf yn meddwl bod edrych yn ôl at orffennol euraid yn fuddiol iawn i Gymru. Mae'r cynnig a gynigiwyd gan Michelle Brown yn mynd yn groes i dystiolaeth ryngwladol. Bythefnos yn ôl, ymwelais â'r Sefydliad ar gyfer Cydweithrediad a Datblygiad Economaidd - yr OECD. Cyfarfûm ag arbenigwyr sy'n arwain y byd fel Andreas Schleicher, ac mae'r dystiolaeth ryngwladol o'r OECD yn glir: nid oes cyswllt o gwbl rhwng dethol disgyblion mewn systemau ysgolion a gwella sgoriau. Ac nid oes cyswllt rhwng hynny ychwaith a chynyddu symudedd cymdeithasol. Cadarnhawyd hyn gan dystiolaeth gan Ymddiriedolaeth Sutton y mae Lynne Neagle, Cadeirydd y pwyllgor addysg, a Llyr Huws Gruffydd eisoes wedi cyfeirio ati heddiw. Gwelsant fod llai na 3 y cant o blant ysgolion gramadeg yn cael prydau ysgol am ddim, o gymharu â 20 y cant ar draws gweddill y wlad. Ac mae pennaeth presennol OFSTED hyd yn oed wedi dal ei ben mewn anobaith ynglŷn â'r argymhellion ar draws y ffin ac wedi dweud nad ydynt yn gwneud dim - ac rwy'n ailadrodd, nid yw ysgolion gramadeg yn gwneud dim - i wella symudedd cymdeithasol. Lywydd, pan gynhaliodd yr OECD eu hadolygiad o addysg yng Nghymru yn 2013, nid oeddent yn dal unrhyw beth yn ôl. Roeddent yn glir ac yn ddiamwys iawn ynglŷn â'r heriau sy'n wynebu ein system addysg, ac maent yn heriau rwy'n barod i'w hwynebu. Roeddent yn nodi'n glir iawn beth oedd angen ei newid, ond roeddent hefyd yn nodi bod ein system gyfun yma yng Nghymru yn un o'n cryfderau. Pam y byddem eisiau newid hynny? Dyna pam y byddaf yn cefnogi gwelliant cyntaf Paul Davies i'r cynnig yma y prynhawn yma. Ond, yn union fel Llyr Huws Gruffydd, rwy'n ddryslyd braidd, gan mai bythefnos yn ôl yn unig y dywedodd llefarydd addysg y Torïaid fod digon o dystiolaeth i gefnogi ysgolion gramadeg ar sail symudedd cymdeithasol, a dyfynnaf, Ni ddylai rhieni a phobl ifanc gael eu hamddifadu o'r cyfle i ddewis ysgol ramadeg. Nawr, rwy'n rhoi'r bai am hynny efallai ar swyddog y wasg brwdfrydig iawn a ryddhaodd y datganiad cyn i Darren ei weld. [Torri ar draws.] Ond rwy'n croesawu'n fawr iawn yn wir heddiw y datganiad clir iawn na fydd y Ceidwadwyr yn cefnogi dychwelyd at addysg ddetholus. Mae ein hymgyrch i wella safonau yn seiliedig ar dystiolaeth, o ddiwygio'r cwricwlwm - . A byddwn yn dweud wrth Mr McEvoy, os ydych am wybod beth y mae'r Llywodraeth hon ei eisiau o'i system addysg, yna darllenwch Donaldson. Mae'n gwbl glir - yn glir iawn. O ddiwygio'r cwricwlwm i wella arferion addysgeg, dyna rydym yn ei wneud, ac rwy'n awyddus i sicrhau ein bod yn gwneud y cynnydd cywir. Dyna pam y gofynnais i'r OECD, pan gyfarfûm â hwy, ddychwelyd i Gymru i roi cyngor i mi ar ba un a oes gennym strategaethau cywir ar waith i ymateb i'w hadolygiad a gyhoeddwyd yn 2014, a byddant yn gwneud hynny yr hydref hwn. Rwyf o ddifrif ynglŷn â dysgu gan y gorau ym mhob cwr o'r byd er lles Cymru, a dyna pam rwy'n gwrthwynebu ail welliant Paul Davies i'r cynnig. Mae ein polisïau'n ymwneud â chodi safonau yn ein holl ysgolion, fel bod pob plentyn, waeth ble mae'n byw, yn cael y profiad dysgu gorau posibl. [Torri ar draws.] Na, Darren. Ni ddylai dewis i rieni ymwneud yn unig â phwy sy'n gallu gweiddi uchaf am gael mynd i'r ysgolion gorau. Dylai pob ysgol yng Nghymru fod yn rhagorol, ac mae'r OECD eto, Darren, yn cydnabod bod systemau ysgolion sy'n perfformio'n dda â systemau cydweithredu yn ganolog iddynt, ac nid y gystadleuaeth sydd ymhlyg yn eich gwelliant. Fodd bynnag, rwy'n cefnogi trydydd a phedwerydd gwelliant Paul Davies y prynhawn yma. Mae'n iawn y dylai addysg uwchradd fod yn amrywiol. Mae'n iawn y dylai addysg uwchradd feddu ar gynnig academaidd a galwedigaethol cyfoethog. Mae'n iawn y dylem gael addysg sy'n darparu'r cyfleoedd gorau i bob person ifanc.