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English: So, we will move to item 2 on our agenda, which is the tailored review of the National Library of Wales. And we welcome two witnesses. If I could ask you to introduce yourselves and just tell us what your roles are for the record, and then, we will move immediately to questions if that's okay. So, if you could introduce yourselves.
Welsh: Felly, dŷn ni'n symud at yr ail eitem ar yr agenda, sef yr adolygiad o Lyfrgell Genedlaethol Cymru. Dŷn ni'n croesawu dau dyst aton ni, ac os gallaf ofyn i chi gyflwyno'ch hunain a jest dweud wrthym ni beth yw eich rôl ar gyfer y record, ac wedyn awn ni'n syth mewn i gwestiynau, os yw hynna'n iawn. So, os gallwch chi gyflwyno eich hunain.
English: Good morning. I'm David Michael, and I'm director of corporate services at the library.
Welsh: Bore da. David Michael ydw i, a dwi'n cyfarwyddo gwasanaethau corfforaethol yn y llyfrgell.
English: A warm welcome to both of you and thank you for giving of your time. I will turn now to Mick Antoniw, who has the first question.
Welsh: Croeso cynnes i'r ddau ohonoch chi atom ni a diolch am eich amser. Ac mi wnaf i droi i ddechrau at Mick Antoniw.
English: Thank you for your question. Generally speaking, we were content with the way in which the tailored review was conducted. We developed a very good relationship between ourselves and the panelists, and the public bodies unit too. It took a little too long, one could argue, from the start date to the end point, but, apart from that, we did have a number of very constructive meetings. And, generally speaking, we are content with the recommendations, particularly the main recommendations, and I'm sure we will come to that during this morning's session.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich cwestiwn. Roeddem ni yn gyffredinol hapus â'r ffordd ddaru yr adolygiad teilwredig cael ei gynnal. Datblygwyd perthynas dda iawn rhyngom ni â'r panelwyr, a'r uned cyrff cyhoeddus hefyd. Mi gymerodd hi ychydig bach yn rhy hir, mae'n bosib, o'r cychwyn i'r diwedd, ond, ar wahân i hynny, mi gawsom ni nifer o gyfarfodydd adeiladol iawn. Ac, yn gyffredinol, mi rydyn ni'n hapus â'r argymhellion, yn enwedig y prif argymhellion, ac mi wnawn ni drafod hynny, dwi'n siŵr, yn ystod y cyfarfod.
English: If I may respond to that, Helen Mary, that was one recommendation that I wouldn't agree entirely with. The relationship with Amgueddfa Cymru during the past six months - I don't need to look back further than that - has been an excellent relationship. Myself and Meri Huws, the temporary president of the library, have met with David Anderson and Roger Lewis regularly during the past months. They have been friendly, constructive meetings, where we do discuss in detail how we can collaborate more closely in the future. So, as far as we're concerned - and I'm sure that I speak on behalf of the museum too - we have two of Wales's most important cultural institutions working happily together. It's possible that the panel may have seen one example from last year where there was disagreement or tension, perhaps, but that will be the exception. We do work in partnership with our sister institution in Cardiff, and that is crucially important.
Welsh: Os caf i ateb hwnna, Helen Mary, dyna un argymhelliad fyddwn i ddim yn cytuno'n llwyr efo fo. Mae'r berthynas gydag Amgueddfa Cymru yn ystod y chwe mis diwethaf yma - does dim eisiau i mi fynd yn bellach na hynny - wedi bod yn berthynas ardderchog. Dwi a Meri Huws, llywydd dros dro y llyfrgell, wedi bod yn cyfarfod David Anderson a Roger Lewis yn gyson yn ystod y misoedd diwethaf yma. Maen nhw wedi bod yn gyfarfodydd cyfeillgar, adeiladol, lle rydyn ni wedi bod yn trafod yn fanwl sut mae modd cydweithio yn agosach yn y dyfodol. Felly ble rydyn ni yn y cwestiwn - ac yn sicr, dwi'n siarad ar ran yr amgueddfa hefyd - mae gennym ni ddau sefydliad diwylliannol pwysicaf Cymru yn gweithio yn rhadlon efo'i gilydd. Mae'n bosib bod yr adolygwyr wedi cael un enghraifft o ble fuodd anghytundeb, mae'n bosib, y llynedd, ond eithriad llwyr ydy hwnna. Rydyn ni'n gweithio mewn partneriaeth gyda'n chwaer sefydliad yng Nghaerdydd, ac mae hynny'n hanfodol bwysig.
English: If I may respond to that, there is a corporate restructuring process that will have to happen in the new year as we adopt a new strategic plan for the next four years. We will be looking in very great detail at the competencies and the skills of the executive team, and we will also be looking to conduct a skills audit among our workforce more generally. But I would partially agree with the criticism that there is a lack of skills and knowledge in the executive team, because we have extremely competent staff who aren't members of the executive team. What I have to do is to consider to what extent - [ Inaudible.] -
Welsh: Os caf i ateb hwnna, mae yna broses o ailstrwythuro corfforaethol yn gorfod digwydd yn y flwyddyn newydd wrth inni fabwysiadu cynllun strategol newydd am y pedair blynedd nesaf. Mi fyddwn ni yn edrych yn fanwl iawn ar gymwyseddau a sgiliau y tîm gweithredol, a hefyd edrych i gynnal adolygiad o sgiliau ein gweithlu yn gyffredinol. Ond, yn rhannol, byddwn i'n cytuno â'r feirniadaeth, hwyrach, fod yna ddiffyg sgiliau a gwybodaeth yn y tîm gweithredol, oherwydd mae gennym ni staff atebol iawn, iawn, iawn, sydd ddim yn aelodau o'r tîm gweithredol. Beth dwi'n gorfod ei wneud rŵan ydy edrych i ba raddau - [ Anghlywadwy.] -
English: - at that highest level. So, that is how we would strengthen the executive team, in my view - we need to be inclusive, rather than to appoint senior managers. I don't feel, these days, you can appoint more senior managers, given that we are looking at redundancies at lower levels. Now, very briefly, in terms of our digital vision, I don't believe that the review panel has acknowledged that we are, at this very moment, about to begin the greatest digital project that the national library has ever seen, namely the establishment of the national broadcast archive. With the assistance of HLF, I hope that will happen and will enhance the digital content of the national library in a staggering way from next year onwards. Therefore, the route that we continue to travel - we do acknowledge the importance of digital and digitising our collections, and that will happen. The national broadcast archive will make a significant contribution to that aim and to that strategy.
Welsh: - strategol ar y lefel uchaf. Felly, dyna'r ffordd i gryfhau'r tîm gweithredol, dwi'n credu - ydy bod yn gynhwysol, yn hytrach na phenodi rheolwyr hŷn. Fedrwch chi ddim, y dyddiau yma, dwi ddim yn teimlo, benodi rhagor o reolwyr hŷn a ninnau'n edrych i ddiswyddo unigolion ar lefelau llai. Yn sydyn iawn, o ran ein gweledigaeth ddigidol ni, dwi ddim yn credu bod yr adolygwyr wedi cydnabod ein bod ni, y funud hon, ar fin cychwyn ar y prosiect digidol mwyaf y mae'r llyfrgell genedlaethol erioed wedi'i weld, sef sefydlu'r archif ddarlledu genedlaethol. Gyda chymorth HLF, mi fydd hynny, dwi'n gobeithio, yn digwydd ac yn cynyddu cynnwys digidol y llyfrgell genedlaethol yn syfrdanol o flwyddyn nesaf ymlaen. Felly, mae'r llwybr rydym ni'n ymlwybro ar ei hyd - rydym ni'n parhau i ymlwybro a sylweddoli pwysigrwydd digidol a digido ein casgliadau. Mi fydd hynny yn digwydd ac mi fydd yr archif ddarlledu genedlaethol yn cyfrannu'n sylweddol at y nod a'r strategaeth yna.
English: Before I bring Carwyn Jones in, just a brief question around financial issues from me. Now, you've mentioned the core funding from the Welsh Government, of course, and you've talked about certain charitable sources that are available to you, but you've been facing challenging financial times for some years, of course. So, what consideration has been given, or what plans have been in place and what plans will you develop, in order to extend the income sources available to you as a library? Of course, a number of cultural organisations have been suffering over the past six months because of COVID, and some of the more commercial aspects of activities couldn't have been implemented, but, removing COVID from the picture, to what extent have you, as a library, thought of alternative ways of generating income or accessing other sources of income available to you?
Welsh: Cyn i mi ddod â Carwyn Jones i mewn, jest cwestiwn bach arall o gwmpas issues ariannol oddi wrthyf i. Dŷch chi wedi sôn am yr arian craidd o Lywodraeth Cymru, wrth gwrs, ac rydych chi wedi sôn am rai o'r ffynonellau elusennol sydd gyda chi, ond mae'r sefyllfa ariannol heriol wedi bod gyda chi ers rhai blynyddoedd erbyn hyn, wrth gwrs. Pa ystyriaeth sydd wedi cael ei rhoi, neu pa gynlluniau sydd wedi bod yn eu lle ac y byddwch yn eu datblygu, i drio ymestyn y range o ffynonellau o incwm sydd ar gael i chi fel llyfrgell? Wrth gwrs, mae lot o fudiadau diwylliannol wedi dioddef yn y chwe mis diwethaf achos COVID, a rhai o'r syniadau mwy masnachol efallai ddim wedi gallu cael eu gweithredu, ond, wrth dynnu COVID allan o'r pictiwr, i ba raddau ydych chi, fel llyfrgell, wedi meddwl am ffyrdd gwahanol o wneud arian neu ffynonellau eraill o incwm posib sydd ar gael i chi?
English: If I can also add -
Welsh: Os caf i ychwanegu hefyd -
English: Yes, certainly.
Welsh: Pedr, ie. Croeso.
English: If I could also add, Helen Mary, that the review also makes the point that there are benefits and disbenefits to being located in Aberystwyth. The other copyright libraries - each and every one of them - are all located within a very large population, unlike us. There are many thousands of people who are passing trade, if you like - something that isn't available to us in Aberystwyth.
Welsh: Os caf i ychwanegu hefyd, Helen Mary, mae'r adolygiad yma yn gwneud y pwynt hefyd fod yna fanteision ac anfanteision o gael eich lleoli yn Aberystwyth. Mae'r copyright libraries eraill, wrth gwrs - pob un ohonyn nhw - yng nghanol poblogaeth fawr, yn wahanol iawn i ni. Mae yna filoedd ar filoedd ar filoedd o bobl yn cerdded oddi ar y stryd i mewn i'w hadeiladau nhw, rhywbeth rydym ni, wrth gwrs, yn methu â llwyddo i'w gael yn Aberystwyth.
English: I do understand that, but, in the digital environment, is location an important issue? It is important; I understand that. It's not the same as being located in London or in Oxford, but there are perhaps benefits to the fact that the world is now more digital and there are opportunities to create commercial income in that sphere. But the more general question on Pedr's point is this: it's true to say, of course, that the report did mention the fact that the location of the library can be challenging but also beneficial. So, how can we reduce the challenges and build on the benefits?
Welsh: Rwy'n deall hynny, ond, yn y byd digidol, ydy lleoliad mor bwysig? Mae fe'n bwysig; rwy'n deall hynny, wrth gwrs. Dyw e ddim yr un peth â bod yn Rhydychen neu Lundain, ond efallai bod yna fanteision o achos y ffaith bod y byd yn fwy digidol, a bod ffordd o greu mwy o incwm masnachol o achos hynny, pwy a ŵyr? Ond y cwestiwn cyffredinol ynglŷn â'r pwynt mae Pedr wedi'i wneud yw hwn: mae'n wir i ddweud, wrth gwrs, fod yr adroddiad wedi sôn am y ffaith bod lleoliad y llyfrgell yn her a hefyd yn fantais. Sut gallwn ni, felly, leihau'r heriau ac adeiladu ar y manteision?
English: Well, the most obvious way to build on those advantages is to ensure that the national library has a presence outside Aberystwyth. Now, we believe very strongly that culture and knowledge can make a difference to people's lives. Material poverty is one thing, but we also think that there is a paucity of knowledge and information in our communities. So, before the end of the BBC project - . The national broadcast archive project will help us to take the message and raise our prominence across Wales. We will have established some 13 sites across Wales, and we will have field officers working from those hubs, so that we can provide full access to our collections. But what's also extremely important is that we strive to have a stronger online presence in terms of events and content. If COVID-19 has taught us anything, it's taught us what the potential of disseminating our message online is. But, on the other hand, we must acknowledge that there are many thousands of people in Wales who don't even have access to the web, and we must also seek to reach those people. Certainly, the spirit within the national library is to say: let's not rest on our laurels, we need to get the message out there, we need to get the library out into our communities.
Welsh: Wel, y ffordd amlwg i adeiladu ar y manteision, Carwyn, ydy sicrhau bod gan y Llyfrgell Genedlaethol bresenoldeb y tu allan i Aberystwyth. Rŵan, te, rydym ni'n credu yn gryf iawn, iawn, iawn fod diwylliant a gwybodaeth yn medru gwneud gwahaniaeth i fywydau pobl. Un peth ydy tlodi materol; rydym ni hefyd yn credu bod yna dlodi gwybodaeth allan yn ein cymunedau ni. Felly, cyn diwedd prosiect y BBC, er enghraifft - . Mae prosiect yr archif ddarlledu yn mynd i fod yn help inni fynd â'r neges, ac i fynd â'n presenoldeb o gwmpas Cymru. Mi fyddwn ni wedi sefydlu rhywbeth fel 13 presenoldeb o gwmpas Cymru - presenoldeb parhaol - ac mi fydd gennym ni weithwyr maes yn gweithio allan o'r canolfannau yna i gael mynediad llwyr i'n casgliadau ni. Ond yr hyn sydd yn hynod, hynod, hynod bwysig hefyd ydy ein bod ni'n ymdrechu yn daer iawn, iawn, iawn i gael mwy o bresenoldeb ar y we, o ran digwyddiadau a chynnwys hefyd. Os ydy COVID-19 wedi dangos unrhyw beth i ni, mae o'n dangos beth ydy'r potensial o rannu'n neges ni ar y we. Ond, ar y llaw arall, mae'n rhaid inni gydnabod bod yna filoedd ar filoedd ar filoedd o bobl Cymru sydd ddim hyd yn oed â mynediad i'r we, ac mae'n rhaid inni hefyd drio cyrraedd y bobl yna. Yn sicr - yn sicr - yr ysbryd sydd yn bodoli yn y llyfrgell genedlaethol erbyn hyn ydy: peidiwch â gorffwys ar eich rhwyfau, rydym ni angen mynd â'r neges allan, rydym ni angen mynd â'r llyfrgell allan i'n cymunedau.
English: How can you do that, then? What's the plan?
Welsh: Ym mha ffordd, felly, allwch chi wneud hynna? Beth yw'r cynllun?
English: The plan is to enhance our online visibility. We are in discussion now with some 13 centres across Wales in order to provide hardware to them and also to provide them with access to our national collections. My hope is that over the next two years we will see a very effective presence for us in Cardiff. We will have a national library in Cardiff. Of course, it'll be at a far smaller scale than what we have in Aberystwyth. But we are very eager to ensure that visitors and users of the collections in Cardiff will be able to access those national collections. So, every effort is being made to establish these centres and very certainly to be far more prominent on social media platforms and on the worldwide web.
Welsh: Y cynllun ydy cynyddu ein presenoldeb ni, fel dwi wedi dweud, ar y we. Rydym ni mewn trafodaethau rŵan efo ryw 13 o ganolfannau o gwmpas Cymru er mwyn darparu caledwedd iddyn nhw ac er mwyn darparu hefyd fynediad i'n casgliadau cenedlaethol. Fy ngobaith i ydy y gwelwn ni, yn ystod y ddwy flynedd nesaf yma, bresenoldeb arbennig, effeithiol iawn yng Nghaerdydd ei hun. Hynny ydy, mi fydd gennym ni lyfrgell genedlaethol yng Nghaerdydd, wrth reswm ar raddfeydd llawer iawn, iawn llai na'r hyn y gwelwch chi yn Aberystwyth. Ond rydym ni'n awyddus iawn i sicrhau bod ymwelwyr, defnyddwyr y casgliadau yng Nghaerdydd, o fewn cyrraedd syml iawn i'r casgliadau cenedlaethol. Felly, pob ymdrech i sefydlu canolfannau, ac yn sicr, iawn, iawn, iawn i fod yn llawer iawn, iawn mwy amlwg ar lwyfannau cymdeithasol ac yn y we fyd-eang.
English: The final question from me, then, if I could return to digital transformation and the fact that the report had said that the library was in the vanguard in that regard 20 years ago. Things haven't been moving as quickly over the past few years, perhaps. Is that a criticism or something that you accept, and, if you do, how can you drive digital change?
Welsh: Y cwestiwn olaf, felly, gyda fi, yw hwn, yn ôl i newid digidol a'r ffaith bod yr adroddiad yn dweud bod y llyfrgell wedi bod ar flaen y gad ynglŷn â hynny 20 mlynedd yn ôl. Dyw pethau efallai ddim wedi symud mor gyflym, felly, ag o'r blaen, dros y blynyddoedd diwethaf. Ydy hynna'n rhywbeth rydych chi'n ei dderbyn, ac, os ydych chi, ym mha ffordd, felly, ydy e'n bosib gyrru newid digidol yn y pen draw?
English: Digitisation and that whole process is a very expensive process, and without the funding to carry out that work, then it simply won't happen. If I could just refer to another criticism in the tailored review, namely that the Welsh Government doesn't assist us in engaging with other departments within Government. Rather than us being seen through the cultural sphere alone, the Welsh Government needs to recognise the contribution the library can make to education, health and the economy. But, without the necessary funding, it is extremely difficult to invest substantially in digitisation, because it's a very expensive area. It's not that we don't recognise it as a priority - we would be delighted to digitise our collections further if the resources were available to us.
Welsh: Mae digido a'r broses ddigidol yn broses hynod, hynod, hynod o ddrud, a heb y cyllid hanfodol i wneud y gwaith yna, dydy o ddim yn mynd i ddigwydd. Gaf i jest ddweud, un feirniadaeth arall yn yr adolygiad teilwredig ydy dydy Llywodraeth Cymru ddim yn ein cynorthwyo ni i ddod i ymgysylltiad ag adrannau eraill y Llywodraeth? Yn hytrach nag ein bod ni'n cael ein gweld drwy'r sffêr diwylliant yn unig, mae angen i Lywodraeth Cymru hefyd gydnabod ba gyfraniad y gall y llyfrgell wneud i addysg, iechyd a'r economi. Ond heb y cyllid angenrheidiol, mae'n anodd, anodd iawn buddsoddi'n sylweddol ym maes digido oherwydd ei fod o'n faes costus iawn. Nid yw ein bod ni ddim yn cydnabod mai dyna ydy ein blaenoriaeth ni - byddem ni wrth ein boddau yn digido ein casgliadau ymhellach, pe byddai'r adnoddau yna ar gael i ni.
English: Pedr, you wanted to come in before Mick asked that question.
Welsh: Pedr, roeddech chi'n trio dod i mewn cyn i Mick ofyn ei gwestiwn.
English: Thank you, Helen Mary. I didn't want the meeting to conclude without referring to the fact that, over the last few days, we have received £0.25 from Welsh Government to assist us this year, without forgetting, of course, that we lost £200,000 - they clawed back £200,000 earlier this year. So, the net gain in fact is £50,000, in case that may be misinterpreted in any way. Of course, we do welcome that, but having said that, we have done our level best to try to influence the Welsh Government. We have continued to bring influence to bear on the Welsh Government to acknowledge what's contained within this review, and that we do need to review the library's funding formula as a matter of urgency, and that it's not sustainable. The response to that - well, we're in the dark. We don't know to what extent the Welsh Government intends to act upon the recommendations that are relevant to it.
Welsh: Diolch, Helen Mary. Doeddwn i ddim am i'r cyfarfod ddod i ben heb gyfeirio at y ffaith ein bod ni, yn ystod y dyddiau diwethaf yma, wedi derbyn £0.25 miliwn gan Lywodraeth Cymru ar gyfer ein cynorthwyo ni eleni, heb anghofio, wrth gwrs, ein bod ni wedi colli £200,000 - mi wnaethon nhw dynnu £200,000 yn ôl yn gynharach eleni. Felly, y net rydyn ni'n ennill, mewn gwirionedd, ydy £50,000, rhag ofn i hwnna gael ei gamddehongli mewn unrhyw ffordd. Rydyn ni, wrth gwrs, yn ei groesawu fo, ond wedi dweud hynny, rydyn ni wedi trio ein gorau glas i geisio dylanwadu ar Lywodraeth Cymru, fel y gwyddoch chi. Rydyn ni wedi parhau i geisio dylanwadu ar Lywodraeth Cymru i gydnabod yr hyn sydd yn yr adolygiad yma, a bod angen adolygu fformiwla cyllido'r Llyfrgell ar frys, a nad ydy o'n gynaliadwy. Mae'r ymateb i hynny - rydyn ni yn y tywyllwch yn llwyr. Dydyn ni ddim yn gwybod i ba raddau mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn bwriadu gweithredu ar yr argymhellion sy'n berthnasol iddyn nhw.
English: Well, that's one of the reasons, of course, why we've called you in, and why we will be discussing this issue with the Deputy Minister later this morning. It's true to say that there will be certain questions that he won't be able to answer today because the process is ongoing, but we'll wait and see. Just a few final questions from me. We've already heard mention of the national broadcast archive, and you've mentioned the funding that you hope to access from the heritage lottery fund. Can you tell us more about how certain that funding is, and what exactly that contribution would mean for the archive? What would the ongoing costs of the archive be, and how would those costs be met?
Welsh: Wel, dyna un o'r rhesymau, wrth gwrs, pam rydyn ni wedi eich galw chi mewn, a pham rydyn ni'n mynd i drafod gyda'r Gweinidog nes ymlaen y bore yma. Mae'n wir i ddweud efallai y bydd yna rai o bethau fydd e ddim yn gallu ateb heddiw, achos mae'r broses yn dal yn mynd yn ei flaen, ond cawn ni weld. Jest cwpl o gwestiynau olaf oddi wrthyf i. Rydyn ni wedi sôn yn barod am yr archif darlledu cenedlaethol, ac rydych chi wedi sôn am yr arian rŷch chi'n gobeithio ei gael gan yr heritage lottery fund. Allwch chi ddweud wrthym ni dipyn bach mwy ynglŷn â beth yn union fydd yr arian yna - ? Wel, pa mor bendant yw e, a beth yn union fydd y cyfraniad yna i'r archif? Beth fydd y costau parhaol ar gyfer rhedeg yr archif a sut byddan nhw'n cael eu hariannu?
English: Thank you, Helen Mary. I will start and then David can respond, too. The reviewed application is now being considered by the national lottery. The intention has changed to such an extent that we, having seen the effects of COVID-19 on the community - it has changed to such an extent that our community engagement is going to be far stronger. That is, we want to take the library out to the people, rather than expecting the people to come to us. So that's the major difference, as well as having a centre for this very special digital archive in Cardiff and elsewhere. In terms of the contribution to digital provision, it is going to be quite, quite staggering. At the moment, we've reached agreement with the BBC and ITV, and negotiations are ongoing with S4C. So my vision is to include each and every one of our major broadcasters as part of this exciting project. It is transformational in terms of digital material, and that is bilingual material in Welsh and in English.
Welsh: Diolch, Helen Mary. Mi wnaf i gychwyn, a gall David hefyd ateb y cwestiwn. Mae cais diwygiedig y llyfrgell yn cael ei ystyried gan y loteri cenedlaethol ar hyn o bryd. Mae'r bwriad wedi newid i'r fath raddau ein bod ni, yn sylweddoli effeithiau COVID-19 ar y gymuned - bod ein cyswllt cymunedol ni yn mynd i fod llawer iawn, iawn cryfach. Hynny ydy, rydyn ni am fynd â'r llyfrgell allan at y bobl, yn hytrach na disgwyl iddyn nhw ddod aton ni. Felly dyna'r gwahaniaeth fwyaf, yn ogystal â chael canolfan i'r archif ddigidol arbennig yma yng Nghaerdydd a mannau eraill. O ran y cyfraniad at y ddarpariaeth ddigidol, mae'n mynd i fod yn gwbl, gwbl syfrdanol. Ar hyn o bryd, rydyn ni wedi dod i gytundeb efo'r BBC ac ITV, ac mae trafodaethau yn digwydd efo S4C ar hyn o bryd. Felly, fy ngweledigaeth i ydy cynnwys y darlledwyr mwyaf, pob un ohonyn nhw, yn rhan o'r prosiect cyffrous yma. Mae'n syfrdanol beth fydd y cynnydd digidol, ac yn gynnydd, wrth gwrs, dwyieithog hefyd, yn Gymraeg a Saesneg.
English: In terms of funding the project once the lottery funding is spent, we anticipate it'll cost around £200,000 per annum to run. So, we've allocated £5.5 million of private funding as an endowment fund, which will provide us with that £200,000 per annum for running costs. So it is sustainable in terms of future costs.
Welsh: O ran ariannu'r prosiect ar ôl i arian y loteri ddod i ben, rydyn ni'n rhagweld y bydd y prosiect yn costio rhyw £200,000 y flwyddyn i'w redeg. Felly, fel y soniais i, rydyn ni wedi clustnodi £5.5 miliwn o arian preifat fel endowment fund fydd yn cynhyrchu y £200,000 o incwm inni er mwyn talu am y costau redeg. Felly, mae'n gynaliadwy o ran y costau yn y dyfodol.
English: Thank you very much. One final question from me is - . Pedr, you wanted to come in there, I believe.
Welsh: Gwych. Diolch yn fawr iawn. Y cwestiwn olaf sydd gen i wedyn - . Sori, Pedr, a oeddech chi'n trio dod i mewn yn fanna?