English: Well, the Law Commission impact assessment was a starting point, and it was a pertinent and useful starting point, but at the end of the day we had to carry out our own analysis of the costs. The numbers provided by the Law Commission, for example, don't include the interpretation section of the Bill, and it doesn't fully take into account the costs of translation. We are far more familiar with that, of course, as a Government and an Assembly. There were also parts of the Law Commission's analysis that looked at the question of staffing in a way that is different to our approach to that. We look at it in a far more integrated way, in terms of the systems we already have, so it wasn't a perfect comparison in that regard. But, having said that, one of the things that they did emphasise was the value of this kind of Bill in terms of saving time. They did try to put a figure on that - I think it was around £24 million. That's important in terms of providing evidence that there is value for money here, but I decided not to place too much emphasis on that specific figure. I think it could be something that we could have a creative discussion about in terms of what the scale should be. From my point of view, although that is valuable in terms of the Bill, social justice is one of the main drivers of the Bill and in ensuring that people can access the law, particularly in a context where legal aid is being cut. We need to ensure that governments, assemblies and parliaments everywhere ensure that the law is accessible in terms of justice, and that was the main driver of the Bill.
Welsh: Wel, roedd asesiad impact Comisiwn y Gyfraith yn fan cychwyn perthnasol, wrth gwrs, ac yn ddefnyddiol yn hynny o beth, ond ar ddiwedd y dydd roedd yn rhaid inni wneud dadansoddiad ein hunain o'r costau. Mae rhifau Comisiwn y Gyfraith, er enghraifft, ddim yn cynnwys rhan ddehongli'r Bil, a dyw e ddim yn cymryd yn gyflawn i mewn i ystyriaeth costau cyfieithu chwaith. Rŷn ni'n llawer mwy cyfarwydd â hynny yma, fel Llywodraeth ac fel Cynulliad. Roedd hefyd rhannau o ddadansoddiad Comisiwn y Gyfraith yn edrych ar y cwestiwn o staffio mewn ffordd wahanol i sut rŷn ni'n edrych arno fe. Rŷn ni'n edrych arno fe mewn ffordd llawer mwy wedi integreiddio i'r systemau sydd gyda ni yn barod, felly doedd e ddim yn gymhariaeth berffaith yn hynny o beth. Ond, wedi dweud hynny, un o'r pethau wnaethon nhw ei bwysleisio oedd gwerth y math yma o Fil yn arbed amser pobl, ac fe wnaethon nhw wneud ymgais i roi ffigur ar hynny - rhyw £24 miliwn. Mae hynny yn bwysig o safbwynt tystiolaeth bod gwerth ariannol i'r peth, ond gwnes i benderfynu peidio â rhoi gormod o bwyslais ar y ffigwr penodol hwnna. Dwi'n credu gallai fe fod yn rhywbeth y gallem ni gael trafodaeth greadigol amdano fe - beth yw'r scale iawn. O'm safbwynt i, er bod hynny'n beth gwerthfawr i'r Bil, cyfiawnder cymdeithasol yw un o'r prif bethau sy'n gyrru'r Bil, sicrhau bod pobl yn gallu darganfod y gyfraith, yn enwedig mewn cyd-destun lle mae legal aid ac ati'n cael ei gwtogi. Mae angen sicrhau bod llywodraethau a chynulliadau ym mhobman yn sicrhau bod y gyfraith yn hygyrch i bobl fel mesur cyfiawnder, a dyna beth oedd prif ysgogiad y Bil.