English: Can I make it clear I'm speaking as an individual, rather than representing the Welsh Conservative view on what I'm going to say? It's not particularly interesting, I suspect, but - [Interruption.] I've now obviously - [Interruption.] I've now raised expectations. [Laughter.] Can I just say, on extending the franchise to 16 and 17-year-olds, I warmly welcome this, if it's going to happen? I think we should consult on it. I think it would be marvellous to actually be held to account by people going through compulsory education. I think that would be fantastic. I would ask him whether he will be having discussions with his colleague, the Cabinet Secretary for Education, about how we could reform the curriculum in terms of how we teach civic education, because this would be an ideal opportunity to do that. I have to say, I did intend to launch a ferocious attack on this incredible STV policy of not having a central organising principle behind a reform, but just to let anything go in terms of what each council wished to do, but then I realised I'd put the same policy in the 2007 Conservative manifesto. [Laughter.] I have to say that I had a pretty difficult commission, because our own executive didn't want proportional representation, and we had to sort of show a bit of leg, as it were, in terms of PR to potential partners in a rainbow coalition. So, the wheeze I came up with was, 'Well, just let councils decide'. But I have to say, on reflection, it's really important, if we don't believe that our electoral system at local level, and also, indeed, at the Assembly level, is not ensuring representation of what is now a political society that has a variety of parties, a multi-party system - if that is breaking down and not delivering good, effective, responsive and efficient local government, then I think we should really address this as a big principle that needs to be sorted out. I really think we should be consistent and that that part of your proposal in the White Paper is, frankly, weak.
Welsh: A gaf i ei gwneud yn glir mai siarad fel unigolyn ydw i, yn hytrach na chynrychioli barn y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig am yr hyn yr wyf yn mynd i'w ddweud? Nid yw'n arbennig o ddiddorol, rwy'n amau, ond - [Torri ar draws.] Rwyf nawr, yn amlwg - [Torri ar draws.] Rwyf nawr wedi codi disgwyliadau. [Chwerthin.] A gaf i ddweud, ar ymestyn yr etholfraint i bobl ifanc 16 a 17 mlwydd oed, fy mod i'n croesawu hyn yn fawr, os yw'n mynd i ddigwydd? Rwy'n credu y dylem ymgynghori am y peth. Rwy'n meddwl y byddai'n wych cael ein dwyn i gyfrif o ddifrif gan bobl sy'n mynd drwy addysg orfodol. Rwy'n meddwl y byddai hynny'n wych. Rwyf yn gofyn iddo a fydd yn cael trafodaethau â'i gydweithiwr, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros Addysg, am sut y gallem ddiwygio'r cwricwlwm o ran sut yr ydym yn addysgu addysg ddinesig, oherwydd byddai hwn yn gyfle delfrydol i wneud hynny. Mae'n rhaid imi ddweud, fy mod i wedi bwriadu lansio ymosodiad ffyrnig ar y polisi STV anhygoel hwn o ddiwygio heb fod ag egwyddor drefnu ganolog y tu ôl i hynny, ond dim ond caniatáu unrhyw beth o ran yr hyn yr oedd pob cyngor yn dymuno ei wneud, ond yna sylweddolais fy mod wedi rhoi'r un polisi ym maniffesto 2007 y Ceidwadwyr. [Chwerthin.] Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud fy mod i wedi cael comisiwn eithaf anodd, oherwydd nad oedd ein swyddog gweithredol ein hunain eisiau cynrychiolaeth gyfrannol, ac roedd yn rhaid inni ryw fath o ddangos ychydig o goes, fel petai, o ran cysylltiadau cyhoeddus i bartneriaid posibl mewn clymblaid enfys. Felly, y syniad da a gefais oedd, 'Wel, gadewch i'r cynghorau benderfynu'. Ond mae'n rhaid imi ddweud, ar ôl meddwl, mae'n bwysig iawn, os nad ydym yn credu bod ein system etholiadol ar lefel leol, a hefyd, mewn gwirionedd, ar lefel y Cynulliad, yn sicrhau cynrychiolaeth i gymdeithas sydd bellach yn gymdeithas wleidyddol ag amrywiaeth o bleidiau, system aml-blaid - os yw hynny'n torri i lawr ac yn methu â darparu llywodraeth leol dda, effeithiol, ymatebol ac effeithlon, rwy'n credu y dylem wir ymdrin â hyn fel egwyddor fawr y mae angen ei datrys. Rwyf wir yn meddwl y dylem fod yn gyson a bod y rhan honno o'ch cynnig yn y Papur Gwyn, a dweud y gwir, yn wan.