techiaith/cofnodycynulliad_en-cy huggingface dataset:
English: Certainly, yes, and I do think that those conversations are happening now. I think the fact that the Education Workforce Council now understands that it's their responsibility to take the reigns on this - I think that that, hopefully, will make a difference. There are other ideas that we have in terms of possible pilot schemes that we would like to put in place. I'm eager, for example, to see if we can encourage young people who've gone away to university to return to help in some of our schools perhaps when their term ends, so that they help for the last month of term, for example, so that they have an idea of how education works and that they can come back to their community. So, we're looking at pilot schemes such as those that would perhaps open the eyes of graduates, or undergraduates, to the idea of entering the education profession and teaching through the medium of Welsh. There are other ideas, but if others have ideas, then we're more than willing to listen to those too, of course.
Welsh: Oes, yn sicr, a dwi'n meddwl bod y trafodaethau yna yn mynd ymlaen nawr. Dwi'n meddwl bod y ffaith bod Cyngor y Gweithlu Addysg nawr yn deall mai eu cyfrifoldeb nhw yw e i gymryd yr awenau ar hwn - dwi'n meddwl bod hwnna, gobeithio, yn mynd i wneud gwahaniaeth. Dwi yn meddwl bod yna syniadau eraill gyda ni o ran efallai cynlluniau peilot y byddem ni'n licio dechrau. Dwi'n awyddus, er enghraifft, i weld os gallwn ni gael pobl ifanc sydd wedi mynd i ffwrdd i'r brifysgol i ddod nôl i helpu yn rhai o'n hysgolion ni, efallai ar ôl iddyn nhw orffen y tymor, jest fel eu bod nhw'n helpu am y mis olaf, fel eu bod nhw'n cael syniad o fyd addysg, ac efallai dod yn ôl i'w cymunedau nhw. Felly, rŷn ni'n edrych ar gynlluniau peilot fel yna, efallai a fydd yn agor llygaid graddedigion, neu bobl sydd yn israddedigion, i'r syniad o fynd i mewn i ddysgu trwy gyfrwng y Gymraeg. Mae yna syniadau eraill, ond os oes syniadau gyda phobl eraill, rŷn ni'n barod iawn i wrando arnyn nhw.
English: Okay. Thank you very much for that. We'll move on to the Welsh language sabbatical scheme, and John Griffiths has some questions. Thank you, John.
Welsh: Iawn. Diolch yn fawr iawn am hynny. Dŷn ni'n symud ymlaen, felly, at y cynllun sabothol iaith Gymraeg, ac mae John Griffiths yn arwain ar y cwestiynau yma. Diolch, John.
English: Thank you, Chair, and good morning, Minister.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Gadeirydd, a bore da, Weinidog.
English: Just for my own information - perhaps I should know, but I don't - why don't you gather that dada? You said that you didn't know because you don't collect the data. Is that a decision made by the education Minister or your decision? You mentioned it in an earlier response to John Griffiths.
Welsh: Diolch. Jest er fy ngwybodaeth i - efallai dylwn i wybod, ond dwi ddim - pam nad ydych chi'n casglu'r data? Rydych chi'n dweud eich bod chi ddim yn gwybod achos eich bod chi ddim yn casglu'r data. Ydy hynny yn rhywbeth mae'r Gweinidog Addysg wedi'i benderfynu neu rydych chi wedi'i benderfynu? Yn eich ateb cynharach i John Griffiths, Weinidog.
English: Which data are you talking about?
Welsh: Y data ynglŷn â beth?
English: The data on stages 2 and 3. I think you mentioned at the outset, in response to John Griffiths, that you weren't recording that data in order to know if there are gaps.
Welsh: Ynglŷn â chyfnod 2 a 3. Roeddech chi wedi dweud ar y cychwyn, mewn ateb i John Griffiths, eich bod chi ddim yn cofnodi'r data rhagor er mwyn gallu gwybod os oes yna gapiau yna.
English: I don't think there's a problem in gathering data. Just in terms of what we're doing in this area, we know who's been on the course, we know where they're returning to after the course, so I don't think there's any problem in terms of data gathering.
Welsh: Dwi ddim yn meddwl bod yna broblem mewn casglu data. Jest o ran beth rŷn ni'n ei wneud yn y maes yma, rŷn ni'n gwybod pwy sydd wedi bod ar y cwrs, rŷn ni'n gwybod ble maen nhw'n mynd yn ôl iddi, felly dwi ddim yn meddwl bod yna broblem o ran casglu data.
English: Just on this, I do have a supplementary question: how do they explain how they make those choices? Someone could approach them and say that they want a female dentist, for example. How can they decide that that can happen but it can't happen in terms of language? Is it because, Bethan, as you said, that it's difficult in terms of placement?
Welsh: Jest ar hwn, mae gen i gwestiwn ychwanegol: sut ydyn nhw yn esbonio felly sut maen nhw'n gwneud y dewisiadau? Mae rhywun yn gallu mynd atyn nhw a dweud, 'Dwi eisiau deintydd benywaidd', ac yn y blaen. Sut maen nhw'n penderfynu bod hynny'n gallu digwydd ond bod e ddim yn gallu digwydd ar gyfer yr iaith? Ife oherwydd, fel roeddech chi'n dweud, Bethan, fod y lleoliad yn anodd gyda rhai sy'n siarad Cymraeg?
English: But wouldn't fitness to practise, as David Melding said, include the Welsh language, because for some people that would be their natural first language, and communicating through the English language would be difficult for them, in approaching that service? No?
Welsh: Oni fyddai fitness to practise, fel roedd David Melding yn dweud, yn cynnwys y Gymraeg gan mai dyna i rai pobl yw eu hiaith naturiol nhw ac wedyn byddai cyfathrebu drwy'r Saesneg yn anodd iddyn nhw, fel rhywun yn dod i'r gwasanaeth hynny? Na?
English: I agree with what you say, but that's not the legal position in terms of challenge. We can only impose standards that comply with the law, or if there's a risk of judicial review, then we can't impose those standards. So, we're still having those legal discussions because we think it's crucially important that we resolve this. So, that's why we have postponed these standards, for no other reason than that we want to tackle this definition. But the law at present has a narrow view of that definition.
Welsh: Dwi'n cytuno efo beth rydych chi'n ei ddweud, ond nid dyna ydy'r safbwynt gyfreithiol o ran sialens. Fedrwn ni ddim ond gosod safonau sy'n gyfreithiol, neu os oes yna risg o allu mynd â'r safonau yna i'r llys o ran judicial review, does gennym ni ddim hawl i'w gosod nhw. Felly, rydyn ni'n dal i gael y trafodaethau cyfreithiol yna achos rydyn ni'n meddwl ei bod hi'n hollbwysig ein bod ni'n datrys hwn. Felly dyna pam rydyn ni wedi oedi'r safonau - am ddim un rheswm arall - achos ein bod ni eisiau mynd i'r afael â'r diffiniad yma. Ond mae'r gyfraith ar hyn o bryd yn edrych ar y diffiniad yn gul.
English: Thank you. That's very helpful.
Welsh: Iawn. Diolch. Mae hynny'n helpu lot.
English: What we're trying to do is to push the boundaries of that definition further.
Welsh: Beth rydyn ni'n trio ei wneud ydy gwthio'r diffiniad ymhellach.
English: Thank you. I understand. Helen Mary Jones.
Welsh: Iawn. Rwy'n deall. Helen Mary Jones.
English: Just very briefly, if the law is too narrowly focused - . Going back to David Melding's point that this doesn't just relate to some political point about the Welsh language, the impact on treatment and the success of medical treatment can be gravely impacted, and there is evidence of that. Would we have to consider a change in the law by the next Government, if the regulator - ? I do hope, of course, that the regulators would be willing to be flexible, but as David said, in terms of informed consent then the nuances of the language that you use are crucially important, aren't they? Will we reach a point where the next Minister, whoever he or she may be, will have to think about a change to the law?
Welsh: Yn fyr iawn, os yw'r gyfraith yn rhy gul - . I fynd yn ôl at bwynt David Melding, dydy hyn ddim jest yn ymwneud â rhyw bwynt gwleidyddol ynglŷn â'r iaith Gymraeg, mae'r effaith ar driniaeth a llwyddiant triniaeth feddygol yn gallu cael ei effeithio'n fawr iawn, ac mae yna dystiolaeth ar hynny. A fydd yn rhaid ystyried newid y gyfraith o dan y Llywodraeth nesaf, os yw'r rheoleiddwyr - ? Rwy'n gobeithio y byddan nhw'n barod i fod yn hyblyg, ond fel roedd David yn dweud, o ran informed consent mae nuances yr iaith rydych chi'n eu defnyddio yn hollbwysig, ond ydynt? A fydd yna bwynt pan fydd yn rhaid i bwy bynnag yw'r Gweinidog nesaf feddwl amboutu newid y gyfraith?
English: Well, I think what we need to do is to look at ways of doing this without going down that particular route. One of the things we're doing is having discussions with the health boards, for example, to see whether there is scope to use them to provide more information in this area, so that that becomes a platform so that people can know where these services can be provided through the medium of Welsh. So that's part of the discussion that's ongoing in terms of what we can do if we don't go down that particular route. And we should be doing that in any case, of course, and ensuring that the health boards understand their responsibilities in this area too.
Welsh: Dwi'n meddwl mai beth sydd yn rhaid i ni ei wneud yw edrych ar ffyrdd o wneud hwn heb ein bod ni'n mynd i lawr y trywydd yna yn gyntaf. Un o'r pethau rydyn ni'n ei wneud yw trafod gyda'r byrddau iechyd, er enghraifft, i weld a oes yna sgôp i'w defnyddio nhw i roi mwy o wybodaeth yn y maes yma, fel bod hwnna'n dod yn blatfform fel bod pobl yn gweld lle mae'r gwasanaethau yma yn gallu cael eu cynnig drwy gyfrwng y Gymraeg. Felly mae hwnna'n rhan o'r drafodaeth sy'n digwydd o ran beth y gallwn ni ei wneud os nad ydyn ni'n mynd i lawr y trywydd yma. A dylen ni fod yn gwneud hwnna beth bynnag a jest cael y byrddau iechyd i ddeall eu cyfrifoldebau nhw yn y maes yma hefyd.
English: Thank you. A supplementary question from Helen Mary Jones.
Welsh: Diolch. Cwestiwn atodol gan Helen Mary Jones.
English: To a certain extent, the Minister answered my question in her final remarks. I was going to ask whether there is any tension between the role of the commissioner in challenging you as a Government, as well as other public bodies, and the collaborative work that you do? But I assume from what you've just said, Minister, that you are aware of this tension, and that in collaborating around promoting the language, you are careful that the relationship doesn't become too close. Even if it wasn't the case, it's important that people don't get the perception that there is that possibility. Perception is always important, and people shouldn't have that perception that the commissioner is too close to you as a Government, and isn't willing to challenge you.
Welsh: I raddau, mae'r Gweinidog yn ei geiriau olaf wedi ateb y cwestiwn oedd gen i, achos roeddwn i yn mynd i ofyn a oes yna dyndra rhwng rôl y comisiynydd i herio chi fel Llywodraeth, yn ogystal â chyrff cyhoeddus eraill, a'r gwaith cydweithredol? Ond, dwi'n cymryd o beth dŷch chi newydd ei ddweud, Weinidog, eich bod chi'n ymwybodol o hyn, ac wrth gydweithio o gwmpas hybu'r iaith, ac yn y blaen, eich bod chi yn ofalus bod y berthynas ddim yn mynd yn rhy agos mewn ffordd y byddai pobl efallai - . Hyd yn oed os nad oedd yn wir, mae'n bwysig bod pobl ddim yn gweld bod yna bosibilrwydd. Mae perception yn bwysig, yn dydy, bod pobl ddim yn gweld bod y comisiynydd yn rhy agos atoch chi fel Llywodraeth, ac efallai ddim yn barod i'ch herio chi.
English: I am highly aware of that and very sensitive to it. The commissioner does have to be independent. We have to provide the budget and then ensure that the commissioner can do that job of ensuring that standards are properly co-ordinated and enforced by us as Government too. I'm entirely clear on that, but I meet with the commissioner regularly, of course.
Welsh: Dwi yn hollol ymwybodol o hynny ac yn sensitif iawn iddo fe. Mae'n rhaid i'r comisiynydd fod yn annibynnol. Mae'n rhaid i ni roi'r gyllideb a rhaid i ni sicrhau bod y comisiynydd yn gallu gwneud y job o sicrhau bod safonau yn cael eu cydlynu gennym ni hefyd fel Llywodraeth. Dwi'n hollol glir am hynny, ond dwi'n cwrdd â'r comisiynydd, wrth gwrs, yn rheolaidd.
English: Thank you. We have a few questions on additional areas of interest for us as a committee, so I have a few questions. Yesterday, we had a statement from you on the national centre for learning Welsh, and in that statement, it stated that the funding had been provided for them for seven years, and that that would come to an end next year. Can you confirm whether that means that the whole system is to come to an end? Is the centre to close, or is it expected that funding will be provided from elsewhere, or are these decisions for the next Government? What's your view on this, Minister?
Welsh: Diolch. Mae gennym ni gwestiynau ar feysydd ychwanegol sydd o ddiddordeb i ni ar y pwyllgor, a dwi jest eisiau gofyn cwpl o gwestiynau. Ddoe, fe wnaethom ni gael datganiad gennych chi ynglŷn â'r ganolfan dysgu Cymraeg, ac yn y datganiad hynny, roedd e'n dweud bod yr arian wedi mynd atyn nhw am saith mlynedd, a bod yr arian hynny yn dod i ben y flwyddyn nesaf. Allwch chi gadarnhau bod hynny'n meddwl bod yr holl system hynny yn dod i ben? Ydy'r ganolfan yn dod i ben, neu ydyn nhw'n disgwyl bod arian yn dod o rywle arall, neu a yw'r penderfyniadau ar gyfer y Llywodraeth nesaf? Beth yw'r darlun gennych chi, Weinidog?
English: I think that the national centre for learning Welsh does excellent work. All audits of the organisation do state that things are going well and that standards are high but, of course, it's important that we do carry out external assessments because we are way into the process now. When we put the system in place initially, there were a number of very clear aims and objectives in terms of our intentions. I think they've certainly delivered against most of those, but it is important that we have an external assessment before we move on to the next stages, and I do think that there is scope for us to assess what's happening in this area. For example, I'm very eager, as they are doing so well, to see whether we can use some of that expertise in teaching to help in the education department, because at the moment it's focused on adults, and there's a great deal of work being done now to see whether there is scope to see whether we can adapt in that area. So, this is standard procedure in terms of having external assessment, but of course we will have to wait until the completion of that assessment before we make a decision on the future of the centre.
Welsh: Dwi'n meddwl bod y ganolfan dysgu Cymraeg yn gwneud gwaith arbennig o dda. Mae pob un sydd wedi archwilio'r mudiad yn dweud bod pethau yn mynd yn dda a bod y safon yn dda ond, wrth gwrs, mae'n bwysig ein bod ni yn asesu, gan fudiad allanol, beth maen nhw'n feddwl, achos rŷm ni ymhell i mewn i'r broses nawr. Pan roeddem ni wedi setio'r system i fyny, roedd yna lot o nodau a oedd yn hollol glir ynglŷn â beth oedd y bwriad yma. Dwi'n meddwl eu bod nhw'n sicr wedi cyflawni'r rhan fwyaf o'r rheini, ond mae'n bwysig ein bod ni'n cael asesiad allanol cyn ein bod ni'n symud ymlaen i'r camau nesaf. A dwi yn meddwl bod yna sgôp i ni asesu beth sy'n digwydd yn y maes yma. Er enghraifft, dwi'n awyddus iawn, gan eu bod nhw mor dda, i weld ydyn ni'n gallu defnyddio peth o'r ymwybyddiaeth am sut i ddysgu i helpu yn yr adran addysg, achos ar hyn o bryd mae wedi ffocysu ar oedolion, so mae lot o waith yn cael ei wneud ar hyn o bryd i weld a oes yna sgôp yn y maes yna i weld a ydyn ni'n gallu addasu yn y maes yna. Felly, mae hwn yn rhywbeth safonol sy'n digwydd - bod rhaid i chi gael asesiad allanol o'r hyn sy'n digwydd. Ond, wrth gwrs, bydd rhaid i ni aros tan fydd yr asesiad yna'n dod tan ein bod ni'n penderfynu beth mae dyfodol y ganolfan yn edrych fel.
English: Okay. Just in terms of that funding you announced in the press briefing to the Urdd, you announced an additional £1.3 million, but in that briefing session, you didn't say where that funding is coming from. Is it coming from the central COVID budget or from elsewhere?
Welsh: Ocê. Jest o ran yr arian a wnaethoch chi ddweud yn y sesiwn briffio'r wasg i'r Urdd, gwnaethoch chi ddatgan £1.3 miliwn ychwanegol i'r Urdd, ond yn y sesiwn briffio hynny, gwnaethoch chi ddim dweud o le mae'r arian yna'n dod. Ydy e'n dod o'r gyllideb COVID ganolog, neu ydy e'n dod o rywle arall?
English: Some of the funding has come from the culture and sport budget, and of course - . This year has been quite difficult, as you can imagine. So, at the very outset, much of that budget had been put into the central pot for COVID. Now, some of that has been returned, and that's where we do have scope to help the Urdd, and I'm just so pleased that we've been able to do that, because I do think that this is a crucial organisation if we are to reach our target of a million Welsh speakers.
Welsh: Mae peth o'r arian wedi dod o'r gyllideb diwylliant a chwaraeon, ac wrth gwrs, roedd peth o'r arian yna - . Mae'r flwyddyn wedi bod yn un eithaf anodd, fel rŷch chi'n gallu dychmygu. So, reit ar y dechrau, roedd y gyllideb yna - roedd lot o'r arian wedi cael ei roi i mewn i'r pot canolog ar gyfer COVID. Mae peth o'r arian yna wedi dod yn ôl nawr, a dyna le mae yna sgôp gyda ni wedyn i helpu'r Urdd, a dwi jest mor falch ein bod ni wedi gallu gwneud hyn, achos dwi'n meddwl bod hwn yn fudiad sydd yn hollbwysig er mwyn i ni gyrraedd ein targed ni o filiwn o siaradwyr.
English: And what of the National Eisteddfod, because we've seen that they're going to be looking at redundancies in that sector? Will there be additional funding available to them too?
Welsh: A beth am yr Eisteddfod Genedlaethol, achos dŷn ni wedi gweld eu bod nhw efallai yn mynd i orfod gwneud diswyddiadau yn y sector hynny? A fydd arian ar gael yn ychwanegol iddyn nhw hefyd?
English: Well, we already provided £0.5 million for them last year, so that we could stop them from going bankrupt. We have to be entirely clear: that was the situation. So, we have stepped in once. Of course, if the Eisteddfod isn't staged, then we have a responsibility to taxpayers too; to what extent can you pay people to do a job where that job isn't required? So, obviously, this is a decision for the Eisteddfod. They're an independent body; they have to make their own decisions. We have helped the Eisteddfod and provided additional financial support to ensure that Eisteddfod Amgen, which was so successful last year, can happen again this year.
Welsh: Wel, rŷm ni eisoes wedi rhoi £0.5 miliwn iddyn nhw y llynedd, wrth gwrs, fel ein bod ni'n stopio nhw rhag mynd yn bankrupt. Mae'n rhaid i ni fod yn glir: dyna beth oedd y sefyllfa. Felly, rŷm ni wedi camu i mewn unwaith. Wrth gwrs, os nad yw'r Eisteddfod yn cael ei chynnal, mae cyfrifoldeb gyda ni hefyd i drethdalwyr; i ba raddau ydych chi'n gallu talu pobl i wneud swydd lle nad oes angen i'r swydd gael ei gwneud? Felly, yn amlwg, mae hwn yn benderfyniad i'r Eisteddfod. Maen nhw'n gorff annibynnol; mae'n rhaid iddyn nhw wneud y penderfyniadau. Rŷn ni wedi helpu'r Eisteddfod gyda help ychwanegol yn ariannol i sicrhau bod yr Eisteddfod Amgen, oedd mor llwyddiannus y llynedd, yn mynd i ddigwydd eto eleni.
English: It sounds as though you think it's all their decision, but the Eisteddfod is a national institution that has a great deal of respect not only here in Wales but internationally too. It doesn't sit comfortably with me to think that they would have to make redundancies because of postponements as a result of the pandemic. We've heard that some music festivals - for example, Leeds - because they're at the end of the summer, can happen. Is there scope to have a discussion with the Eisteddfod so that they can change dates perhaps, so it can happen at another time, so that these jobs can be retained?
Welsh: Mae'n swnio fel eich bod chi'n meddwl ei fod e oll o fewn eu penderfyniad nhw, ond eto i gyd, mae'r Eisteddfod yn sefydliad cenedlaethol sydd yn dod gyda lot o barch, nid yn unig yma yng Nghymru ond yn rhyngwladol. Mae'n eistedd yn anghyffyrddus i fi i feddwl bod rhaid iddyn nhw wneud diswyddiadau ar sail y ffaith eu bod nhw wedi gorfod gohirio oherwydd y pandemig. Dŷn ni wedi clywed bod rhai gwyliau cerddoriaeth - efallai Leeds - oherwydd eu bod ar ddiwedd yr haf, yn mynd i allu digwydd. Oes yna sgôp i drafod gyda'r Eisteddfod i newid dyddiadau fel ei bod hi'n gallu digwydd mewn cyfnod arall, fel bod y swyddi yma yn gallu cael eu cadw?
English: Well, that's a decision for the Eisteddfod, of course. Anything that happens this summer is going to be a risk. People have to make those decisions, of course, and that's a decision for them rather than for us as a Government. At the moment, I think we as a Government would still take a risk averse approach, because we're still not sure what the future will look like. What's important for us is that the National Eisteddfod survives, and we have stepped in to ensure that that does happen. Every organisation in Wales has been hit by the pandemic, and the extent to which we can step in to save every institution is different, of course. We have stepped in to save the National Eisteddfod already; they will survive. But, of course, each organisation needs to look at their own responsibilities to see how they can ensure that they do survive in this very difficult circumstance.
Welsh: Wel, mae hynny'n benderfyniad i'r Eisteddfod, wrth gwrs. Mae unrhyw beth sy'n digwydd yr haf yma yn mynd i fod yn risg. Mae'n rhaid i bobl gwneud y penderfyniad yna, ac mae hynny'n benderfyniad i nhw ei wneud, yn hytrach na ni fel Llywodraeth. Ar hyn o bryd, dwi'n meddwl byddem ni fel Llywodraeth yn dal i gymryd agwedd sydd yn eithaf risk averse, achos dŷn ni dal ddim yn siŵr beth mae'r dyfodol yn edrych fel. Beth sy'n bwysig i ni yw bod yr Eisteddfod Genedlaethol yn goroesi, ac rŷn ni wedi camu i mewn i sicrhau bod hynny'n digwydd. Mae pob mudiad yng Nghymru wedi cael ei effeithio gan y pandemig, ac felly, mae'r raddau rŷn ni'n gallu camu i mewn i achub pob sefydliad yn wahanol. Rŷn ni wedi camu i mewn i achub yr Eisteddfod Genedlaethol eisoes; maen nhw'n mynd i oroesi. Ond, wrth gwrs, mae'n rhaid i bob un, wedyn, edrych ar eu cyfrifoldeb nhw i weld sut maen nhw'n gallu sicrhau eu bod nhw'n gallu goroesi yn y sefyllfa really anodd yma.
English: News has broken today - perhaps you've become aware of this - where the joint director of Health Education and Improvement Wales has said that those who can't speak Welsh are treated as they would be in an apartheid scenario, and that's in the context of creating Welsh language schools in his own area; I think that's the Llansteffan area. HEIW have said that the comments were made in a personal capacity - the director is called James Moore - and I think that response from HEIW is quite weak given that these comments are worse than the comments made by the director of Iceland, who is no longer in post. Would you condemn the comments made by James Moore, and what will you do now in terms of having discussions with HEIW on these issues?
Welsh: Mae newyddion wedi torri heddiw - efallai eich bod chi wedi ei weld e, Weinidog - lle bod cyd-gyfarwyddwr Addysg a Gwella Iechyd Cymru, HEIW, wedi dweud bod pobl sydd yn methu siarad Cymraeg yn cael eu trin fel apartheid, a bod hynny yng nghyd-destun creu ysgolion Cymraeg yn ei ardal e; rwy'n credu ei fod e'n byw yn ardal Llansteffan. Mae HEIW wedi dweud bod y sylwadau wedi cael eu gwneud mewn capasiti personnol - James Moore yw enw'r cyd-gyfarwyddwr - a dwi'n credu bod yr ymateb hynny gan HEIW yn eithaf gwan o feddwl bod y sylwadau yma yn waeth na'r hyn a wnaethpwyd gan gyfarwyddwr Iceland, sydd ddim yn ei swydd rhagor. A fyddech chi'n condemnio yr hyn mae James Moore wedi ei ddweud, a beth fyddech chi'n gwneud nawr o ran cael trafodaethau gyda HEIW ar y materion yma?
English: I wasn't aware of those comments, and I'm reluctant to respond without being sure of exactly what's been said -
Welsh: Dwi ddim wedi clywed y sylwadau hynny, felly dwi'n gyndyn i ymateb heb fod yn sicr o beth yn union mae e wedi dweud, ond dwi yn meddwl bod -
English: Well, I have set it out.
Welsh: Wel, dwi wedi dweud - .