English: Well, the Royal College of Surgeons were at the meeting that I described with clinical leaders and actually the guidance that they've issued has been helpful in allowing some activity to continue in different parts of Wales, but it reflects the reality of where we are on the ground with, not just COVID, but with other harms that are coming in. Because I think part of this is, you're right about data and understanding what that data is, but it's also still then the judgments and the understanding of where people are on that waiting list. There'll be some people who are a higher clinical priority and it's the understanding of how that's taken through to deal with people to avoid the greatest amount of harm, and that will be different in different areas of the service. And, again, the Member will know that in some parts, delaying treatment can lead to irreversible harm, for example, on sight loss. In other areas, it can lead to discomfort and deterioration in that person's well-being, if you're waiting for a joint operation, for example. But that harm may be recovered. So, it's both understanding how to prioritise the waiting list and then to understand how you fairly judge the level of activity that each organisation is undertaking. So, I'd be more than happy to continue the conversations that we already have with the Royal College of Surgeons on how we can be open and transparent about the levels of activity that are being restarted, but not to use as a simple, 'You're somewhere on a league table and you just have to get somewhere else', because, as I say, the pandemic isn't finished yet. When we move beyond the pandemic, then, yes, I think there'll be more and more data and more and more expectation in terms of my response to your first question: how have we managed to gear up different ways of working to deliver the required levels of activity whilst, of course, at the same time, taking care of our staff who will be exhausted when the pandemic is finally over?
Welsh: Wel, roedd Coleg Brenhinol y Llawfeddygon yn y cyfarfod a ddisgrifiais gydag arweinwyr clinigol ac mewn gwirionedd mae'r canllawiau y maent wedi'u cyhoeddi wedi bod o gymorth i ganiatáu i rywfaint o weithgaredd barhau mewn gwahanol rannau o Gymru, ond mae'n adlewyrchu realiti ein sefyllfa ar lawr gwlad, nid dim ond gyda COVID, ond gyda ffactorau niweidiol eraill sy'n dod i mewn. Oherwydd rwy'n credu mai rhan o hyn yw, rydych chi'n iawn ynglŷn â data a deall beth yw'r data hwnnw, ond mae'n dal i fod yn ymwneud â'r penderfyniadau a'r ddealltwriaeth o ble mae pobl ar y rhestr aros honno. Bydd rhai pobl sy'n flaenoriaeth glinigol uwch a'r ddealltwriaeth o sut y mae hynny'n cael ei wneud i ymdrin â phobl er mwyn osgoi cymaint â phosibl o niwed, a bydd hynny'n wahanol mewn gwahanol feysydd o'r gwasanaeth. Ac unwaith eto, bydd yr Aelod yn gwybod y gall gohirio triniaeth mewn rhai meysydd arwain at niwed na ellir ei wrthdroi, er enghraifft, colli golwg. Mewn meysydd eraill, gall arwain at anesmwythyd a dirywiad yn llesiant yr unigolyn, os ydych yn aros am lawdriniaeth i gymal, er enghraifft. Ond gellir gwella'r niwed hwnnw. Felly, mae'n fater o ddeall sut i flaenoriaethu'r rhestr aros ac yna deall sut rydych yn barnu'n deg lefel y gweithgarwch y mae pob sefydliad yn ei gyflawni. Felly, byddwn yn fwy na pharod i barhau'r sgyrsiau a gawsom eisoes gyda Choleg Brenhinol y Llawfeddygon ar sut y gallwn fod yn agored ac yn dryloyw ynglŷn â'r lefelau gweithgaredd sy'n cael eu hailgychwyn, ond peidio â defnyddio, 'Rydych chi rywle ar dabl cynghrair ac mae'n rhaid i chi symud i rywle arall' syml, oherwydd, fel y dywedais, nid yw'r pandemig wedi dod i ben eto. Pan fyddwn wedi symud y tu hwnt i'r pandemig, yna, iawn, rwy'n credu y bydd mwy a mwy o ddata a mwy a mwy o ddisgwyliad o ran fy ymateb i'ch cwestiwn cyntaf: sut rydym wedi llwyddo i baratoi gwahanol ffyrdd o weithio i ddarparu'r lefelau gofynnol o weithgaredd, tra'n gofalu ar yr un pryd wrth gwrs am ein staff a fydd wedi ymlâdd pan ddaw'r pandemig i ben yn y pen draw?