English: I'm very glad that your statement doesn't lose sight of the path-breaking Corston report. Jean Corston's report was published 12 years ago, and very little progress has been made to date. We need to remind ourselves that what Corston said was that only those women who pose a risk to the community need to be put into prison, ergo we don't need a women's prison in Wales, because there will be so few of them it wouldn't be justifiable. What I want to know is a little bit more about the role of women's centres, because the UK Government is talking about five. Well, we don't want huge women's centres. We want ones that enable a small community of people focused on rehabilitation to be working on that process. We don't need just one for Wales, or two; we need several, whilst we still have women being sucked into the criminal justice system. But clearly we need pilots to ensure that we know which model works best, depending on the circumstances. Clearly, a woman who, for example, has an addiction and gets herself sucked into criminal gangs peddling drugs needs to be removed from the influence of that drug gang, otherwise it's going to be extremely difficult for her to leave that behind. So, a women's centre in another place could play a really important part in that. But what I want to focus on is the role of children. You've already mentioned adverse childhood experiences. We know that the children of prisoners are far more likely than anybody else to end up in the criminal justice system, because of the appalling impact that having a parent in prison has on their life chances. So, I'd like to understand a bit better what thought is being given in this review of the report by Lord Farmer into not just looking at the relationship between women and maintaining contact with their children, but, in some circumstances, enabling children to live with their mothers, not just between nought and 18 months, which is the current possibility within the prison system. There's no reason why children couldn't live with their mother and go to school and college and work in the normal manner, in the right circumstances, where the other people in the women's centre were not a physical, violent threat to those children. But I'd like to know a little bit more about how radically we are going to be able to be in exploring these women's centre pilots and how we can get a decision on where the first Welsh women's centre or centres are going to be, before we have the constantly revolving door of prisons Ministers. I mean, Rory Stewart was a very effective prisons Minister and addressed really important issues, like the peddling of drugs by prison officers in prisons, but how are we going to consolidate the good work that was done if we always have the shelf life of a prisons Minister being so ephemeral? And in the context of the impending leadership contest amongst the Tory Party for the next Prime Minister, how can we get the first women's centre off the ground so that we can start to see what works, what works for women, and what works for children to reduce the scandalous level of recidivism we've got?
Welsh: Rwy'n falch iawn nad yw eich datganiad chi'n colli golwg ar adroddiad Corston a'i drywydd arloesol. Cyhoeddwyd adroddiad Jean Corston 12 mlynedd yn ôl, ac ychydig iawn o gynnydd sydd wedi bod hyd yn hyn. Mae angen i ni ein hatgoffa ein hunain mai'r hyn a ddywedodd Corston oedd mai dim ond y menywod hynny sy'n achos perygl i'r gymuned sydd angen eu carcharu, a chan hynny nid oes angen carchar i fenywod arnom ni yng Nghymru, gan y byddai cyn lleied ohonyn nhw na fyddai modd cyfiawnhau hynny. Yr hyn yr hoffwn i ei wybod yw ychydig mwy am swyddogaeth canolfannau i fenywod, gan fod Llywodraeth y DU yn sôn am bump. Wel, nid ydym ni'n dymuno cael canolfannau menywod enfawr. Fe fyddem ni'n hoffi rhai sy'n galluogi i gymuned fechan o bobl ganolbwyntio ar adsefydlu ar gyfer bod yn gweithio ar y broses honno. Nid oes angen dim ond un arnom ni i Gymru, neu ddau; mae angen sawl un arnom ni, tra bod menywod yn cael eu sugno i mewn i'r system cyfiawnder troseddol o hyd. Ond mae'n amlwg bod angen cynlluniau peilot arnom ni i sicrhau ein bod ni'n gwybod pa batrwm sy'n gweithio orau, gan ddibynnu ar yr amgylchiadau. Yn amlwg, fe fyddai'n rhaid i fenyw sydd, er enghraifft, yn gaeth i ddibyniaeth ac sy'n cael ei sugno'n ôl i gangiau troseddwyr i werthu cyffuriau gael ei symud oddi wrth ddylanwad y criw hwnnw, fel arall fe fydd hi'n anodd iawn iddi gefnu ar hynny. Felly, gallai canolfan i fenywod gryn bellter i ffwrdd fod â rhan bwysig iawn yn hynny. Ond yr hyn yr wyf i am ganolbwyntio arno yw rhan plant. Rydych chi wedi sôn eisoes am brofiadau niweidiol yn ystod plentyndod. Gwyddom fod plant carcharorion yn llawer mwy tebygol na neb arall o'u cael eu hunain yn y system cyfiawnder troseddol, oherwydd yr effaith ofnadwy y mae cael rhiant yn y carchar yn ei chael ar eu cyfleoedd nhw mewn bywyd. Felly, fe hoffwn i ddeall ychydig yn well pa ystyriaeth sy'n cael ei rhoi yn yr adolygiad hwn o adroddiad Arglwydd Farmer nid trwy ddim ond edrych ar y berthynas rhwng menywod a chadw cysylltiad â'u plant, ond, mewn rhai amgylchiadau, galluogi plant i fyw gyda'u mamau, nid dim ond rhwng eu geni a 18 mis, sef yr hyn sy'n bosibl ar hyn o bryd yn y system garchardai. Does dim rheswm pam na allai plant fyw gyda'u mam a mynd i'r ysgol a'r coleg a gweithio yn y ffordd arferol, dan yr amgylchiadau cywir, lle na fo'r menywod eraill yn y ganolfan yn fygythiad corfforol a threisgar i'r plant hynny. Ond fe hoffwn i wybod ychydig bach mwy am ba mor radical y byddwn yn gallu bod o ran archwilio'r cynlluniau peilot yn y canolfannau i fenywod a sut y gallwn ni gael penderfyniad ynghylch lleoliad y ganolfan neu'r canolfannau menywod cyntaf yng Nghymru, cyn i ni weld y chwrligwgan cyson o Weinidogion carchardai. Hynny yw, roedd Rory Stewart yn Weinidog carchardai effeithiol iawn ac yn mynd i'r afael â materion gwirioneddol bwysig, fel swyddogion carchardai yn gwerthu cyffuriau mewn carchardai, ond sut allwn ni gyfnerthu'r gwaith da a wnaethpwyd os na bydd unrhyw Weinidog carchardai yn para'n hir iawn o gwbl? Ac yng nghyd-destun y gystadleuaeth am arweinydd sydd ar fin digwydd ymhlith y blaid Dorïaidd ar gyfer y Prif Weinidog nesaf, sut allwn ni ddechrau sefydlu'r ganolfan gyntaf i fenywod fel y gallwn ni gael gweld beth sy'n gweithio, beth sy'n gweithio i fenywod, a beth sy'n gweithio i blant ar gyfer lleihau'r lefel echrydus o lithro'n ôl i droseddu sydd gennym ni?