English: Part of the challenge in dealing with a particular issue is that I think we've got a responsibility not to speak as if those fears are facts. The action that has been taken has been entirely appropriate in that they suspended staff as a neutral act to allow an investigation to take place. There will be an external person from outside Betsi Cadwaladr undertaking that investigation, and that is important too, both for the staff and the families that might be concerned, but also the broader public as well, to understand that this will not be an internal investigation for the health board investigating itself. There's a point there about the level of reassurance. I think that that should give other people confidence that the managers in this instance are doing the right thing. Rather than thinking about different ways to have different sanctions for managers, I think we've got plenty of potential sanctions for managers already about the accountability that they do not have within the system. Our challenge is: how do we make sure that they are held properly accountable and what measures do we have in place? Because, the ultimate sanction is that someone loses their job. You know, that's such a high-measure sanction to take, and how many times will that improve the service? I'm always interested - . What do we do to understand our problems and challenges in the service? Who is responsible for that, how are they held accountable, and what do we then need to do to improve? You will have seen that, in north Wales, there is a new management team in the mental health service because we recognised that that needed to take place. We've put expertise into the health board, with the senior nursing staff who have gone there over a period of time, and I'm pleased to see that they have recruited an experienced mental health director who is now taking responsibility for delivering a different strategy and an improved strategy, recognising that significant improvement does still need to take place. Though, at this point in time, I would not try and tell you that everything is perfect, and it's only fair that I do recognise that that's where we are, rather than tell everyone that things are well, things are perfect, and there is no change needed. We recognise change is needed. There are more difficult choices to be made in Betsi Cadwaladr to make sure that we don't return to this position in the future, and people receive the services they're entitled to expect.
Welsh: Rhan o'r her wrth ymdrin â mater penodol yw fy mod yn credu bod gennym gyfrifoldeb i beidio â siarad fel pe bai'r ofnau hynny'n ffeithiau. Mae'r camau a gymerwyd wedi bod yn gwbl briodol yn yr ystyr eu bod yn gwahardd staff o'u gwaith fel gweithred niwtral i ganiatáu i ymchwiliad ddigwydd. Bydd person allanol o'r tu allan i Betsi Cadwaladr yn cynnal yr ymchwiliad, ac mae'n bwysig hefyd fod y staff a'r teuluoedd a allai fod ynghlwm wrth hyn, ond hefyd y cyhoedd yn ehangach, yn deall nad ymchwiliad mewnol i'r bwrdd iechyd ymchwilio ei hun fydd hwn. Mae yna bwynt i'w wneud yma am y lefel o dawelwch meddwl. Rwy'n credu y dylai hynny roi hyder i bobl eraill fod y rheolwyr yn yr achos hwn yn gwneud y peth iawn. Yn hytrach na meddwl am ffyrdd gwahanol o gael gwahanol gosbau ar gyfer rheolwyr, rwy'n meddwl bod gennym ddigon o gosbau posibl i reolwyr eisoes ynglŷn â'r atebolrwydd nad oes ganddynt o fewn y system. Ein her yw: sut rydym yn sicrhau eu bod yn cael eu gwneud yn atebol yn briodol a pha fesurau sydd gennym ar waith? Oherwydd, y gosb eithaf yw bod rhywun yn colli eu swydd. Wyddoch chi, mae honno'n gosb mor ddifrifol i'w gweithredu, a sawl gwaith fydd hynny'n gwella'r gwasanaeth? Rwyf bob amser â diddordeb - . Beth rydym yn ei wneud i ddeall ein problemau a'n heriau yn y gwasanaeth? Pwy sy'n gyfrifol am hynny, sut y maent yn cael eu gwneud yn atebol, a beth sydd angen i ni ei wneud wedyn i wella? Fe fyddwch wedi gweld, yng ngogledd Cymru, fod yna dîm rheoli newydd yn y gwasanaeth iechyd meddwl oherwydd ein bod wedi cydnabod bod angen i hynny ddigwydd. Rydym wedi dod ag arbenigedd i mewn i'r bwrdd iechyd, gydag uwch-nyrsys sydd wedi mynd yno dros gyfnod o amser, ac rwy'n falch o weld eu bod wedi recriwtio cyfarwyddwr iechyd meddwl profiadol sydd bellach yn ysgwyddo cyfrifoldeb am gyflawni strategaeth wahanol a strategaeth well, gan gydnabod bod angen gwelliant sylweddol o hyd. Ond ar hyn o bryd, ni fyddwn yn ceisio dweud wrthych fod popeth yn berffaith, ac nid yw ond yn deg fy mod yn cydnabod mai dyna ble rydym, yn hytrach na dweud wrth bawb fod pethau'n dda, fod pethau'n berffaith, ac nad oes angen unrhyw newid. Rydym yn cydnabod bod angen newid. Mae mwy o benderfyniadau anodd i'w gwneud ym mwrdd iechyd Betsi Cadwaladr er mwyn gwneud yn siŵr nad ydym yn dychwelyd i'r sefyllfa hon yn y dyfodol, a bod pobl yn cael y gwasanaethau y mae ganddynt hawl i'w disgwyl.