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English: I appreciate your point that the evidence is mixed, but I haven't yet found any evidence to show that larger prisons actually reduce reoffending rates. I think that's the crucial element here. They're arguing that it does, but yet I haven't found the evidence that it actually does. It might be approaching it, but I haven't seen the evidence yet.
Welsh: Rwy'n derbyn eich pwynt fod y dystiolaeth yn gymysg, ond nid wyf wedi dod o hyd i unrhyw dystiolaeth i ddangos bod carchardai mwy o faint mewn gwirionedd yn lleihau cyfraddau aildroseddu eto. Rwy'n credu mai dyna'r elfen hanfodol yma. Maent yn dadlau ei fod yn gwneud hynny, ond eto nid wyf wedi dod o hyd i'r dystiolaeth ei fod. Gallai fod yn agos at wneud hynny, ond nid wyf wedi gweld y dystiolaeth eto.
English: Is it a 'no'?
Welsh: Ai 'na' oedd hynna?
English: It is a 'no', I'm afraid. I do apologise. [Interruption.] Until we have the debate about the sort of justice system we want to see in Wales, then it's premature to pass this motion and I will therefore not be supporting it at this time.
Welsh: 'Na' ydyw, mae arnaf ofn. Rwy'n ymddiheuro. [Torri ar draws.] Hyd nes y cawn y ddadl ynglŷn â'r math o system gyfiawnder rydym am ei gweld yng Nghymru, mae'n rhy gynnar i basio'r cynnig hwn ac felly ni fyddaf yn ei gefnogi ar hyn o bryd.
English: Thank you, Llywydd. I've listened carefully to today's debate, but the Government will be opposing both the motion and the amendment as laid. I must start by setting the record straight on the actions and powers of the Welsh Government, and some of the contributions that were made in the Chamber today. Responsibility for prisons lies with the UK Government. The Welsh Government was approached by the Ministry of Justice as part of an exercise across England and Wales to see if we knew of any land that could be developed for this scale of prison. We supplied a list of 20 sites. We regularly provide a list of this type - [Interruption.] In a second I will, Dai. We regularly provide this type of service for all businesses and all developers.
Welsh: Diolch i chi, Llywydd. Rwyf wedi gwrando'n ofalus ar y ddadl heddiw, ond bydd y Llywodraeth yn gwrthwynebu'r cynnig a'r gwelliant fel y'u cyflwynwyd. Rhaid i mi ddechrau drwy gofnodi gweithredoedd a phwerau Llywodraeth Cymru'n gywir, a rhai o'r cyfraniadau a wnaed yn y Siambr heddiw. Cyfrifoldeb Llywodraeth y DU yw carchardai. Cysylltodd y Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder â Llywodraeth Cymru fel rhan o ymarfer ledled Cymru a Lloegr i weld a oeddem yn gwybod am unrhyw dir y gellid ei ddatblygu ar gyfer carchar o'r maint hwn. Fe wnaethom ddarparu rhestr o 20 safle. Rydym yn darparu rhestr o'r math hwn yn rheolaidd - [Torri ar draws.] Mewn eiliad, fe wnaf, Dai. Rydym yn darparu'r math hwn o wasanaeth yn rheolaidd i bob busnes a phob datblygwyr.
English: I thank the Cabinet Secretary for taking the intervention. I appreciate that the Welsh Government provides that service for all businesses, but in your response to me in May you highlighted the criteria the MOJ supplied you for sites. One of them was that it shouldn't be a flood plain, and yet you supplied a site, which is this particular site, which is on a flood plain. Could you tell me why that site was supplied?
Welsh: Diolch i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet am dderbyn yr ymyriad. Rwy'n derbyn bod Llywodraeth Cymru'n darparu'r gwasanaeth hwnnw ar gyfer pob busnes, ond yn eich ymateb i mi ym mis Mai fe wnaethoch dynnu sylw at y meini prawf a ddarparodd y Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder i chi ar gyfer safleoedd. Un ohonynt oedd na ddylai fod yn orlifdir, ac eto fe wnaethoch gynnwys safle, sef y safle penodol hwn, sydd ar orlifdir. A allwch ddweud wrthyf pam y cafodd y safle hwnnw ei gynnwys?
English: The details around that would be a general principle that there are mitigation measures that all businesses can react to in terms of flood plains and flood developments, and it is certainly not unusual for us to provide opportunities of land usage for all businesses, as I said. That choice is by the developer then, if they wish to pursue to develop or otherwise. The Ministry of Justice expressed its desire to proceed with a planning permission application for a prison facility at Baglan in Port Talbot. We were not part of the decision process that selected Baglan as a preferred site.
Welsh: Byddai'r manylion ar hynny'n dilyn egwyddor gyffredinol fod yna fesurau lliniaru y gall pob busnes ymateb iddynt o ran gorlifdiroedd a datblygiadau llifogydd, ac yn sicr nid yw'n anarferol i ni ddarparu cyfleoedd i ddefnyddio tir ar gyfer pob busnes, fel y dywedais. Dewis y datblygwr yw hynny wedyn, os ydynt yn dymuno bwrw ymlaen i ddatblygu neu fel arall. Mynegodd y Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder ei hawydd i fwrw ymlaen â chais caniatâd cynllunio ar gyfer cyfleuster carchar ym Maglan, Port Talbot. Nid oeddem yn rhan o'r broses benderfynu a ddewisodd Baglan fel safle a ffafrir.
English: One second. The Government is not playing a role in developing the prison or a role in the community. We may comment on the proposals when they become available. Llywydd, we have granted the Ministry of Justice two licences to carry out work on that land. These include ecology mitigation measures and, again, this is normal practice. Developers want to know what the make-up of the land is prior to putting in a planning application. We have also been asked by the Ministry of Justice to discuss an option agreement for the land. We have not sold the land to the Ministry of Justice or come to an agreement regarding the sale or discussed the value. It is not a fait accompli as many have suggested in here and externally, as we've heard. If alternative offers for the land come forward, there is nothing to prevent us from assessing the economic benefits of that and accepting a good offer.
Welsh: Un eiliad. Nid yw'r Llywodraeth yn chwarae rôl yn y broses o ddatblygu'r carchar na rôl yn y gymuned. Efallai y byddwn yn gwneud sylwadau ar y cynigion pan fyddant ar gael. Llywydd, rydym wedi rhoi dwy drwydded i'r Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder wneud gwaith ar y tir hwnnw. Mae'r rhain yn cynnwys mesurau lliniaru ecolegol ac unwaith eto, mae hyn yn arfer cyffredin. Mae datblygwyr am wybod beth yw cyfansoddiad y tir cyn cyflwyno cais cynllunio. Hefyd, mae'r Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder wedi gofyn inni drafod cytundeb opsiwn ar gyfer y tir. Nid ydym wedi gwerthu'r tir i'r Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder na dod i gytundeb ynglŷn â gwerthu nac wedi trafod ei werth. Nid yw'n fait accompli fel y mae llawer wedi awgrymu yn y lle hwn ac yn allanol, fel y clywsom. Os cyflwynir cynigion eraill ar gyfer y tir, nid oes dim i'n hatal rhag asesu manteision economaidd hynny a derbyn cynnig da.
English: As you've specifically referred to it, have you entered into the option agreement with the MOJ that you just referred to?
Welsh: Gan eich bod wedi cyfeirio'n benodol ato, a ydych wedi ymrwymo i'r cytundeb opsiwn rydych newydd gyfeirio ato gyda'r Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder?
English: What I said was we have been asked by the Ministry of Justice to discuss an options agreement about the land, but we have not sold the land or discussed an agreement on the sale or the value of the land.
Welsh: Yr hyn a ddywedais oedd bod y Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder wedi gofyn inni drafod cytundeb opsiwn mewn perthynas â'r tir, ond nid ydym wedi gwerthu'r tir na thrafod cytundeb ar werthiant neu werth y tir.
English: You haven't entered into the option agreement, then.
Welsh: Nid ydych wedi ymrwymo i'r cytundeb opsiwn, felly.
English: No, we haven't. I'm happy to take an intervention.
Welsh: Nac ydym. Rwy'n hapus i dderbyn ymyriad.
English: I just wanted to clarify, because you said you hadn't been part of any decision-making processes. But on 28 June, in communities questions in response to my question on the prison, you said your department have been, and I quote, involved 'in terms of deciding and offering sites that were available right across the south Wales region'. So, you were either involved in deciding or you weren't, Cabinet Secretary.
Welsh: Roeddwn i eisiau eglurhad, oherwydd fe ddywedoch nad ydych wedi bod yn rhan o unrhyw brosesau gwneud penderfyniadau. Ond ar 28 Mehefin, yn y cwestiynau cymunedau mewn ymateb i fy nghwestiwn ar y carchar, fe ddywedoch fod eich adran wedi cymryd rhan, ac rwy'n dyfynnu 'o ran penderfynu a chynnig safleoedd a oedd ar gael ar draws rhanbarth de Cymru.' Felly, roeddech naill ai'n cymryd rhan yn y broses o benderfynu neu nid oeddech yn rhan o hynny, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet.
English: Sorry, I think that the play on words or interpretation of what I said - . If I may clarify that position, as I have just done today, we have offered 20 sites across the south Wales region, as we would do for any business or any other developer. That is not unusual for the way Governments do business. I think - . Dai, did you want to intervene?
Welsh: Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, rwy'n meddwl bod y chwarae ar eiriau neu'r dehongliad o'r hyn a ddywedais - . Os caf egluro'r safbwynt hwnnw, fel rwyf newydd ei wneud heddiw, rydym wedi cynnig 20 o safleoedd ar draws rhanbarth de Cymru, fel y byddem yn ei wneud ar gyfer unrhyw fusnes neu unrhyw ddatblygwr arall. Nid yw hynny'n anarferol o ran y ffordd y mae llywodraethau'n cyflawni busnes. Rwy'n credu - . Dai, a oeddech eisiau ymyrryd?
English: Not at this point.
Welsh: Ddim ar hyn o bryd.
English: I do. [Laughter.] I just wondered if you could clarify why, if this area has been designated as suitable for installing a Swansea metro - why, then, the Government offers it up as a possible site for building, as that seems to be in contradiction.
Welsh: Rwyf fi. [Chwerthin.] Roeddwn yn meddwl tybed a allech egluro pam, os yw'r ardal hon wedi ei dynodi'n addas ar gyfer gosod metro Abertawe - pam, felly, y mae'r Llywodraeth yn cynnig y lle fel safle posibl ar gyfer adeiladu, gan fod y ddau beth i'w gweld yn gwrth-ddweud ei gilydd.
English: Well, respectfully, these are matters for the Ministry of Justice. This is not in our ownership - [Interruption.] This is not our project. This is of the Ministry of Justice. What we do welcome is the Ministry of Justice's intention - [Interruption.]
Welsh: Wel, gyda phob parch, mae'r rhain yn faterion ar gyfer y Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder. Nid yw yn ein perchnogaeth - [Torri ar draws.] Nid ein prosiect ni ydyw. Y Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder sy'n gwneud hyn. Yr hyn yr ydym yn ei groesawu yw bwriad y Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder - [Torri ar draws.]
English: Allow the Cabinet Secretary to continue, please. He's taken many, many interventions. Allow the Cabinet Secretary to continue.
Welsh: Gadewch i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet barhau, os gwelwch yn dda. Mae wedi derbyn llawer iawn o ymyriadau. Gadewch i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet barhau.
English: I thank the Cabinet Secretary for allowing me the intervention. I appreciate that the prison estate is the responsibility of the MOJ, but in this particular case the land is owned by the Welsh Government and, therefore, it's a decision for the Welsh Government on the social needs as well as anything else. And particularly as we have the possibility of Swansea and Cardiff closing because they've been claimed to be Victorian prisons, and the UK Government's policy is clearly to shut them, we could end up with a situation where there are two major prisons within 10 miles of each other and, therefore, it's not actually serving the social needs of the inmates and their families in other parts of south Wales.
Welsh: Diolch i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet am ganiatáu i mi gael yr ymyriad. Rwy'n derbyn mai cyfrifoldeb y Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder yw'r ystâd garchardai, ond yn yr achos penodol hwn, mae'r tir yn eiddo i Lywodraeth Cymru ac felly, mae'n benderfyniad i Lywodraeth Cymru mewn perthynas â'r anghenion cymdeithasol yn ogystal ag unrhyw beth arall. Ac yn enwedig gan fod gennym y posibilrwydd o Abertawe a Chaerdydd yn cau oherwydd eu bod yn garchardai Fictoraidd yn ôl yr honiad, ac am mai polisi Llywodraeth y DU yn amlwg yw eu cau, gallem wynebu sefyllfa yn y pen draw lle ceir dau brif garchar o fewn 10 milltir i'w gilydd ac felly, nid yw'n gwasanaethu anghenion cymdeithasol y carcharorion a'u teuluoedd mewn rhannau eraill o dde Cymru mewn gwirionedd.
English: The Cabinet Secretary is well over time already. I do understand that you've taken several interventions already, but if you bring your contribution to an end, then you won't need to take any other interventions. [Laughter.]
Welsh: Mae amser Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet wedi hen ddod i ben yn barod. Rwy'n deall eich bod wedi derbyn nifer o ymyriadau eisoes, ond os dowch â'ch cyfraniad i ben, yna ni fydd angen i chi dderbyn unrhyw ymyriadau eraill. [Chwerthin.]
English: I'm very grateful for your advice, Llywydd. Just in regard to the flooding issues, it would be up to the Ministry of Justice to make a case through a flood consequence assessment as that process moves forward. The motion and amendments, in different ways, invite you to endorse misleading accounts of the role and actions of this Welsh Government. We've not chosen the site. The proposal will be subject to a full planning process. The Ministry of Justice decides to proceed or not, and the Welsh Government will continue to work to promote the economy in the area. [Interruption.] I urge Members to reject the motion and the amendments today, Llywydd.
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar iawn am eich cyngor, Llywydd. O ran y materion yn ymwneud â llifogydd, mater i'r Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder fyddai gwneud achos drwy asesiad o ganlyniadau llifogydd wrth i'r broses fynd rhagddi. Mae'r cynnig a'r gwelliannau, mewn gwahanol ffyrdd, yn eich gwahodd i gymeradwyo datganiadau camarweiniol ynglŷn â rôl a gweithredoedd Llywodraeth Cymru. Nid ydym wedi dewis y safle. Bydd y cynnig yn amodol ar broses gynllunio lawn. Mae'r Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder yn penderfynu a ddylid bwrw ymlaen ai peidio, a bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn parhau i weithio i hyrwyddo'r economi yn yr ardal. [Torri ar draws.] Rwy'n annog yr Aelodau i wrthod y cynnig a'r gwelliannau heddiw, Llywydd.
English: Well, if anything else, I'm glad we've had a fiery and engaging debate for those of us who have wanted to have that debate today, but I must say that I am disappointed with the reaction of the Cabinet Secretary because we're in a week where we're discussing devolution and the powers that we have. Sometimes, even if you don't have the powers in your grasp, you have the moral authority to change things as a Cabinet Secretary. You have the power not to release that land to the MOJ. There may be processes that business follows, but you don't have to always follow that process. You do not have to give the MOJ that list of different pieces of land for them to develop - [Interruption.] Well, they don't simply have to do that, so do you - ? I would like for you to intervene on me, Cabinet Secretary, because you were shaking your head when you said you hadn't taken an opinion. Do you support this prison? So, then we can actually have you on the record saying if you do or not, because I'm still not sure. Carwyn Jones as First Minister seems to be happy for the prison to come to south Wales. Are you in favour of this prison?
Welsh: Wel, yn anad dim arall, rwy'n falch ein bod wedi cael dadl danllyd a diddorol i'r rhai ohonom sydd wedi bod eisiau cael y ddadl hon heddiw, ond mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud fy mod yn siomedig gydag ymateb Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet gan ein bod mewn wythnos lle rydym yn trafod datganoli a'r pwerau sydd gennym. Weithiau, hyd yn oed os nad oes gennych y pwerau yn eich gafael, mae gennych yr awdurdod moesol i newid pethau fel Ysgrifennydd Cabinet. Mae gennych hawl i beidio â rhyddhau'r tir hwnnw i'r Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder. Efallai fod yna brosesau y mae busnesau'n eu dilyn, ond nid oes rhaid i chi ddilyn y broses honno bob amser. Nid oes rhaid i chi roi'r rhestr honno o wahanol ddarnau o dir iddynt eu datblygu i'r Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder - [Torri ar draws.] Wel, nid oes raid iddynt wneud hynny, oes yna - ? Hoffwn i chi ymyrryd, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, oherwydd roeddech yn ysgwyd eich pen pan oeddech yn dweud nad ydych wedi arddel safbwynt. A ydych yn cefnogi'r carchar hwn? Felly, gallwn eich cofnodi'n dweud mewn gwirionedd a ydych chi'n ei gefnogi ai peidio, oherwydd nid wyf yn siŵr o hyd. Mae Carwyn Jones fel Prif Weinidog i'w weld yn hapus i'r carchar ddod i dde Cymru. A ydych o blaid y carchar hwn?
English: Well, the Member clearly didn't listen. You said earlier on that this isn't about politicising this, which is exactly what you and your colleagues have started to do. This is - [Interruption.]
Welsh: Wel, mae'n amlwg na wrandawodd yr Aelod. Fe ddywedoch yn gynharach nad yw hyn yn ymwneud â gwleidydda, sef yr union beth rydych chi a'ch cydweithwyr wedi dechrau ei wneud. Mae hyn yn - [Torri ar draws.]
English: Allow the Cabinet Secretary to intervene. Carry on, Cabinet Secretary.
Welsh: Gadewch i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet i ymyrryd. Ewch yn eich blaen, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet.
English: I'm very grateful for your advice, Llywydd. The issue for us is if an offer comes into that land base, as I said during my contribution, it's still open for offers from other businesses. We haven't fixed an opinion on whether the prison should go ahead or whether other business should go ahead. That is completely normal business.
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar iawn am eich cyngor, Llywydd. Y mater i ni yw, os daw cynnig ar gyfer y safle, fel y dywedais yn ystod fy nghyfraniad, mae'n dal i fod ar agor i gynigion gan fusnesau eraill. Nid ydym wedi ffurfio barn sefydlog ynglŷn ag a ddylai'r carchar fynd yn ei flaen neu a ddylai math arall o fusnes fynd yn ei flaen. Mae hynny'n gwbl arferol.
English: Adam, do you want to make an intervention? [Interruption.] I'm going to pull this debate to a close, and I thank everybody for such a lively debate if nothing else.
Welsh: Adam, a ydych am wneud ymyriad? [Torri ar draws.] Rwy'n mynd i ddod â'r ddadl hon i ben, ac rwy'n diolch i bawb am ddadl mor fywiog os nad dim byd arall.
English: The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] I will defer voting on this item until voting time.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Gohiriaf y bleidlais, felly, ar yr eitem yma tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: And that brings us to voting time, and the first vote is on the Welsh Conservatives debate on community health councils. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Paul Davies. Open the vote. Close the vote. For 16, no abstentions, 37 against. And therefore, the motion is not agreed.
Welsh: A dyma ni'n cyrraedd y cyfnod pleidleisio, ac felly'r bleidlais gyntaf ar ddadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig ar gynghorau iechyd cymuned. Rydw i'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 16, neb yn ymatal, 37 yn erbyn. Ac felly, gwrthodwyd y cynnig.
English: I now call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 28, no abstentions, 25 against. The amendment is therefore agreed.
Welsh: Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Jane Hutt. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 28, neb yn ymatal, 25 yn erbyn. Derbyniwyd y gwelliant.
English: I call for a vote on amendment 2, tabled in the name of Rhun ap Iorwerth. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 53, no abstentions, none against, and therefore amendment 2 is agreed.
Welsh: Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 2, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Rhun ap Iorwerth. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 53, neb yn ymatal, neb yn erbyn. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 2.
English: Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 28, no abstentions, 25 against. Therefore the motion as amended is agreed.
Welsh: Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 28, neb yn ymatal, 25 yn erbyn. Felly, derbyniwyd y cynnig wedi'i ddiwygio.
English: The next vote is on the Plaid Cymru debate on superprisons. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Rhun ap Iorwerth. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour nine, three abstentions, 41 against, and therefore the motion is not agreed.
Welsh: Mae'r bleidlais nesaf ar ddadl Plaid Cymru ar uwch-garchariadau. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Rhun ap Iorwerth. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid naw, tri yn ymatal, 41 yn erbyn, ac felly gwrthodwyd y cynnig.
English: I now call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Paul Davies. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 17, no abstentions, 36 against, and therefore amendment 1 is not agreed.
Welsh: Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 17, neb yn ymatal, 36 yn erbyn, ac felly gwrthodwyd gwelliant 1.
English: Now a vote on - no. Nothing has been agreed, either the motion or the amendment. Therefore, that brings voting time to an end.
Welsh: Felly, galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar y cynnig wedi'i - . Nid oes dim byd wedi'i dderbyn, naill ai gynnig neu welliant. Felly, dyna ddiwedd ar y cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: We now move to the short debate, and if Members who are leaving could do so quietly, I will call the short debate in a few moments' time. The short debate, therefore: Huw Irranca-Davies to speak on the topic that he has chosen. Huw Irranca-Davies
Welsh: Rydym ni'n symud, felly, i'r ddadl fer, ac os gwnaiff Aelodau adael y Siambr yn dawel, yna fe fyddaf i'n galw y ddadl fer mewn munud. Y ddadl fer, felly: Huw Irranca-Davies i gyflwyno'r ddadl fer. Huw Irranca-Davies
English: Diolch, Llywydd. In opening this debate, could I just point out that I've agreed for Suzy Davies to speak in it, and Dai Lloyd also? So, in opening this debate I'm putting a request to the Cabinet Secretary this evening for his help in resolving a long-running issue affecting primary care in Llanharan, Brynna and the surrounding area. The request isn't made lightly. I'd prefer not to do it. It's made out of some frustration after the continuing efforts of concerned local residents and community activists, community and county councillors, myself and others, to find a way forward over the last 18 months, and I've personally invested a significant amount of my time and that of my office team to find progress, and I know that councillors like Geraint Hopkins and Roger Turner, community councillors like Chris Parker and others have worked diligently behind the scenes as well.
Welsh: Diolch, Llywydd. Wrth agor y ddadl hon, a gaf fi nodi fy mod wedi cytuno i Suzy Davies siarad ynddi, a Dai Lloyd hefyd? Felly, wrth agor y ddadl rwy'n cyflwyno cais i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet heno i ofyn am ei gymorth i ddatrys problem hirhoedlog sy'n effeithio ar ofal sylfaenol yn Llanharan, Brynna a'r ardal gyfagos. Nid yw'r cais yn cael ei wneud ar chwarae bach. Byddai'n well gennyf beidio â'i wneud. Mae wedi'i wneud yn sgil rhywfaint o rwystredigaeth ar ôl ymdrechion parhaus trigolion lleol a gweithredwyr cymunedol, cynghorwyr cymuned a sir, fy hun ac eraill sy'n pryderu am hyn, i ddod o hyd i ffordd ymlaen dros y 18 mis diwethaf, ac rwyf wedi buddsoddi cryn dipyn o fy amser yn bersonol ac amser fy nhîm swyddfa i sicrhau cynnydd, ac rwy'n gwybod bod cynghorwyr fel Geraint Hopkins a Roger Turner, cynghorwyr cymuned fel Chris Parker ac eraill wedi gweithio'n ddiwyd y tu ôl i'r llenni yn ogystal.
English: Thank you very much. You indicated two people. They've got something like 45 seconds between them to respond to the debate, so it'll be a challenge. Let's see how we go. Suzy Davies.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Fe ddywedoch fod dau o bobl. Mae ganddynt rywbeth fel 45 eiliad rhyngddynt i ymateb i'r ddadl, felly fe fydd yn her. Cawn weld sut yr aiff hi. Suzy Davies.