English: Yes, first of all, can I thank all the Members for their contributions to the debate and the Cabinet Secretary for his positive response to the petition and the committee's recommendations? Mike Hedges mentioned the courage of Whizz-Kidz in giving evidence to the committee, and reiterated many of the points in the report, but added that disabled people often decide not to go out for fear of using public transport. He also mentioned the training of drivers, operators, et cetera, and the difference between the theory and the on-the-ground delivery of that training regime. Rhun ap Iorwerth gave us feedback from his constituents over the years and from his engagement with disabled people in his constituency. He mentioned that because they cause delays, disabled people feel that they're a burden on travellers, leading them not to use public transport, causing, of course, isolation and loneliness. Rhun also mentioned that there should be an on-demand situation for disabled people. Janet Finch-Saunders voiced her admiration for the presentations, both in person and on video, to the committee, and asked about the orange wallet-style assistance scheme. She also raised the importance of audio and visual aids on all forms of transport, particularly on railway stations. Access should be a right for disabled people. Mark Isherwood stated that this has been an ongoing problem for a very long time, and he made the point that he thought that the Welsh Government was not really engaging with the recommendations made by the committee. He mentioned at length a desire to have disability awareness training, and the need to have cross-border collaboration to deliver the access required. Cabinet Secretary, I thank you for your congratulations to the committee for the work that we have done in producing this report. Ken spoke of how powerful the engagement in the process of investigation had been in identifying the problems faced by the disabled. The Cabinet Secretary mentioned the improvements already made, but acknowledged that there was a great deal more to do. I thank him for his extensive outlining of his plans for addressing the problems in the future. In summary, I want to end by reiterating the committee's thanks to the petitioners for submitting the petition, and for the powerful and moving evidence they provided to us. We hope that the next few years will see real improvements made to improve the experience for disabled people on all modes of public transport and across all forms of disability.
Welsh: Iawn, yn gyntaf oll, hoffwn ddiolch i'r holl Aelodau am eu cyfraniadau i'r ddadl ac i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet am ei ymateb cadarnhaol i'r ddeiseb ac argymhellion y pwyllgor? Soniodd Mike Hedges am ddewrder Whizz-Kidz yn rhoi tystiolaeth i'r pwyllgor, ac ailadroddodd nifer o'r pwyntiau yn yr adroddiad, ond ychwanegodd fod pobl anabl yn aml yn penderfynu peidio â mynd allan am eu bod ofn defnyddio trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus. Soniodd hefyd am hyfforddi gyrwyr, gweithredwyr ac ati, a'r gwahaniaeth rhwng theori a chyflawniad y drefn hyfforddi honno ar lawr gwlad. Rhoddodd Rhun ap Iorwerth adborth i ni gan ei etholwyr dros y blynyddoedd ac o'i ymgysylltiad â phobl anabl yn ei etholaeth. Soniodd fod pobl anabl yn teimlo eu bod yn faich ar deithwyr oherwydd eu bod yn achosi oedi, gan beri iddynt beidio â defnyddio trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus, sy'n arwain, wrth gwrs, at eu hynysu ac at unigrwydd. Soniodd Rhun hefyd y dylai pobl anabl allu defnyddio trafnidiaeth pryd bynnag y bo'i hangen arnynt. Lleisiodd Janet Finch-Saunders ei hedmygedd o'r cyflwyniadau i'r pwyllgor wyneb yn wyneb ac ar fideo, a gofynnodd ynglŷn â'r cynllun cymorth waled oren. Soniodd hefyd am bwysigrwydd cymhorthion clyweledol ar bob math o drafnidiaeth, yn enwedig gorsafoedd rheilffordd. Dylai mynediad fod yn hawl i bobl anabl. Dywedodd Mark Isherwood fod hon wedi bod yn broblem barhaus ers amser hir iawn, a gwnaeth y pwynt ei fod yn credu nad oedd Llywodraeth Cymru o ddifrif ynghylch yr argymhellion a wnaeth y pwyllgor. Soniodd yn faith am yr awydd i gael hyfforddiant ar ymwybyddiaeth o anabledd, a'r angen i gydweithio'n drawsffiniol er mwyn darparu'r mynediad sydd ei angen. Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, diolch i chi am eich llongyfarchiadau i'r pwyllgor am y gwaith a wnaethom ar gynhyrchu'r adroddiad hwn. Soniodd Ken pa mor rymus oedd yr ymgysylltiad wedi bod yn y broses ymchwilio er mwyn nodi'r problemau a wynebir gan bobl anabl. Soniodd Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet am y gwelliannau a wnaed eisoes, ond cydnabu fod llawer mwy i'w wneud. Diolch iddo am ei amlinelliad helaeth o'i gynlluniau ar gyfer mynd i'r afael â'r problemau yn y dyfodol. I grynhoi, rwyf am orffen drwy ailadrodd diolch y pwyllgor i'r deisebwyr am gyflwyno'r ddeiseb, ac am y dystiolaeth rymus a theimladwy a ddarparwyd ganddynt. Rydym yn gobeithio y ceir gwelliannau go iawn yn ystod yr ychydig flynyddoedd nesaf i wella profiadau pobl anabl ar bob math o drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus ac ar draws pob math o anabledd.