English: First Minister, if you want to debate the Conservative leadership contest, I'll happily provide you with a membership form and you can come to the hustings. I will also - [ Interruption.] I will also quite happily sit on any tv platform and debate with you on the merits of that. And I can hear the front bench shouting. The figures I've put to the First Minister, that 68,500 people are waiting two years or more in Wales - that is a fact. That's your own figure, the front bench. In England it is 12,500, out of a population of 57 million. I acknowledge the pressures on the NHS, but I can understand why the First Minister doesn't want to debate the figures when his figures here are so horrendous. Now, he offered no plans, no solutions and he hasn't offered a road out for many of these people who are stuck on the waiting times, other than to talk about the waiting times in England, which has a population, as I've said, of 57 million people. To have the equivalent waiting times here in Wales, you would need to have 13 million people plus on the waiting lists in England. Now, First Minister, you need to do better than that. You have the levers to actually offer hope, which is where I started my line of questioning to you on these waiting times. You have not offered any hope or solutions this afternoon, so for one last time I ask you again: will we be debating these numbers this time next year, because your Government has failed to deal with them and address them, or will you offer some solutions so people going into the summer can have confidence that they won't be facing such a bleak winter on a waiting list all over again?
Welsh: Prif Weinidog, os ydych eisiau trafod cystadleuaeth arweinyddiaeth y Ceidwadwyr, byddaf yn hapus i roi ffurflen aelodaeth i chi a gallwch ddod i'r hustyngau. Byddaf hefyd - [ Torri ar draws.] Byddaf hefyd yn ddigon bodlon eistedd ar unrhyw lwyfan teledu a dadlau gyda chi ynghylch rhinweddau hynny. A gallaf glywed y fainc flaen yn gweiddi. Mae'r ffigurau yr wyf wedi'u cyflwyno i'r Prif Weinidog, sef bod 68,500 o bobl yn aros dwy flynedd neu fwy yng Nghymru - mae hynny'n ffaith. Dyna'ch ffigur eich hun, y fainc flaen. Yn Lloegr mae'n 12,500, allan o boblogaeth o 57 miliwn. Rwy'n cydnabod bod pwysau ar y GIG, ond gallaf ddeall pam nad yw'r Prif Weinidog eisiau trafod y ffigurau pan fydd ei ffigurau yma mor erchyll. Nawr, ni chynigiodd unrhyw gynlluniau, dim atebion ac nid yw wedi cynnig ffordd allan i lawer o'r bobl hyn sy'n sownd ar yr amseroedd aros, ac eithrio siarad am yr amseroedd aros yn Lloegr, sydd â phoblogaeth, fel y dywedais i, o 57 miliwn o bobl. I gael yr amseroedd aros cyfatebol yma yng Nghymru, byddai angen i chi fod â 13 miliwn o bobl a mwy ar y rhestrau aros yn Lloegr. Nawr, Prif Weinidog, mae angen i chi wneud yn well na hynny. Mae gennych chi'r ysgogiadau i gynnig gobaith mewn gwirionedd, a dyna lle y dechreuais fy nhrywydd o ran eich holi chi ynghylch yr amseroedd aros hyn. Nid ydych wedi cynnig unrhyw obaith nac atebion y prynhawn yma, felly am y tro olaf gofynnaf i chi eto: a fyddwn ni'n trafod y niferoedd hyn yr adeg hon y flwyddyn nesaf, oherwydd mae eich Llywodraeth wedi methu ag ymdrin â nhw a mynd i'r afael â nhw, neu a wnewch chi gynnig rhai atebion fel y gall pobl wrth iddyn nhw fynd i mewn i'r haf fod yn ffyddiog na fyddant yn wynebu gaeaf mor llwm ar restr aros unwaith eto?