English: Diolch, Lywydd. I listened carefully to the views that were expressed around the Chamber. Could I echo what Adam Price said, that we do need a debate that is based around fact and not so much around the hot air that has been generated by this debate over the past few months? I'm asked to outline what I think is a way forward for Wales and the UK. I'm happy to give it - I thought I'd been saying that. I don't believe you can have access to the single market and, at the same time, say that you want full control over immigration. You choose one or the other. I have made the choice to say that I think prioritising access to the single market is the most important issue for us in Wales. Why? The European Union is by far our biggest market, by far our biggest export market. We play fast and loose with that market at our peril. It's a much, much bigger market for us than the US, a much, much bigger market for us than some of the developing countries, and it's important that we maintain access to that market. Our farmers, our hill farmers, would not exist, frankly, if they weren't able to export. A huge tariff placed on Welsh lamb going into southern Europe would wreck Welsh farming. I know that one of the issues that's often raised is that we can control farming policy ourselves: yes, but we won't have the money. From 2020 onwards, not a brass farthing will be available for Welsh farming - nothing. Two hundred and sixty million pounds-worth of subsidy would no longer be available. We hear noises from within DEFRA that they do not see subsidies for farming as part of farming's future. I know, as somebody who has spent 17 years as a Minister - longer than anybody else on these islands now - that DEFRA have no love for hill farming. Their idea of farming is lowland dairy farming and lowland arable farming. They have no interest in hill farming at all. I have far more confidence, currently, in Brussels than Whitehall when it comes to agriculture, because I know that, in Whitehall, there is no sympathy for Welsh farming and there is no sympathy for Welsh hill farming. And the Tories are silent on this. They say nothing about the money that would be lost to Welsh farming post 2020. Where is their passion? For a group of people who voted for them for many, many years, they've been let down by the Conservative Party. There are two issues that we have to deal with: firstly, I think some reality needs to be injected into this debate. If, in March 2019, there is no deal of any kind, World Trade Organization rules will apply. They will apply; there's no doubt about that. Tariffs will come into force and we will face tariffs as we seek to export to our biggest market. That means not that this is something that is a boon to the UK exchequer, because what happens with tariffs, which is never mentioned by those who say they're not a problem, is that tariffs are imposed on goods as they enter the UK, and those tariffs are simply passed on to the consumer; it's a tax on people. Tariffs are paid by the consumer, not by European businesses. So, the Treasury might benefit, but it means that members of the public in the UK will be paying extra tax to pay for tariffs. That's what tariffs are all about at the end of the day. It's not some kind of free money for the UK Treasury; it's Joe Public who will pay for that. Secondly, businesses are afraid of different regulatory regimes in different parts of Europe and, of course, the sheer nuisance of customs paperwork. Add that up for every transaction and it creates a barrier between the UK and the EU that we could do without. What, then, about immigration? I don't accept that people voted -
Welsh: Diolch, Lywydd. Gwrandewais yn ofalus ar y safbwyntiau a fynegwyd o amgylch y Siambr. A gaf fi adleisio'r hyn a ddywedodd Adam Price, fod angen i ni gael dadl sy'n seiliedig ar ffeithiau ac nid yn gymaint ar yr aer poeth a gynhyrchwyd gan y ddadl hon dros y misoedd diwethaf? Gofynnir i mi amlinellu'r hyn rwy'n meddwl yw'r ffordd ymlaen i Gymru a'r DU. Rwy'n hapus i'w rhoi - roeddwn yn meddwl fy mod wedi bod yn dweud hynny. Nid wyf yn credu y gallwch gael mynediad at y farchnad sengl a dweud ar yr un pryd eich bod am gael rheolaeth lawn ar fewnfudo. Rydych yn dewis y naill neu'r llall. Rwyf wedi gwneud y dewis i ddweud fy mod yn credu mai blaenoriaethu mynediad at y farchnad sengl yw'r mater pwysicaf i ni yng Nghymru. Pam? Yr Undeb Ewropeaidd yw ein marchnad allforio fwyaf o bell ffordd. Gwae i ni chwarae o gwmpas gyda'r farchnad honno. Mae'n farchnad lawer iawn yn fwy o faint i ni na'r Unol Daleithiau, yn farchnad lawer iawn yn fwy o faint i ni na rhai o'r gwledydd sy'n datblygu, ac mae'n bwysig ein bod yn cynnal mynediad at y farchnad honno. Ni fyddai ein ffermwyr, ein ffermwyr mynydd, yn bodoli, a dweud y gwir, pe na baent yn gallu allforio. Buasai gosod tariff enfawr ar gig oen Cymru yn mynd i dde Ewrop yn dinistrio ffermio yng Nghymru. Gwn mai un o'r materion sy'n codi'n aml yw y gallwn reoli polisi ffermio ein hunain: gallwn, ond ni fydd gennym arian. O 2020 ymlaen, ni fydd ceiniog goch ar gael ar gyfer ffermio yng Nghymru - dim byd. Ni fuasai gwerth £260 miliwn o bunnoedd o gymhorthdal ar gael mwyach. Rydym yn clywed synau o'r tu mewn i DEFRA nad ydynt yn gweld cymorthdaliadau ar gyfer ffermio fel rhan o ddyfodol ffermio. Rwy'n gwybod, fel rhywun sydd wedi treulio 17 mlynedd fel Gweinidog - yn hwy nag unrhyw un arall ar yr ynysoedd hyn bellach - nad oes gan DEFRA unrhyw gariad tuag at ffermio mynydd. Eu syniad hwy o ffermio yw ffermio llaeth ar lawr gwlad a ffermio âr ar lawr gwlad. Nid oes ganddynt unrhyw ddiddordeb mewn ffermio mynydd o gwbl. Mae gennyf lawer mwy o hyder, ar hyn o bryd, ym Mrwsel na Whitehall mewn perthynas ag amaethyddiaeth, oherwydd gwn nad oes unrhyw gydymdeimlad yn Whitehall tuag at ffermio yng Nghymru ac nid oes cydymdeimlad tuag at ffermio mynydd Cymru. Ac mae'r Torïaid yn dawel ar hyn. Nid ydynt yn dweud dim am yr arian a fyddai'n cael ei golli i ffermio yng Nghymru ar ôl 2020. Ble mae eu hangerdd? I grŵp o bobl a bleidleisiodd drostynt am flynyddoedd lawer, maent wedi cael cam gan y Blaid Geidwadol. Mae yna ddau fater sy'n rhaid i ni ymdrin â hwy: yn gyntaf, rwy'n meddwl bod angen chwistrellu rhywfaint o realiti i mewn i'r ddadl hon. Ym mis Mawrth 2019, os na fydd cytundeb o unrhyw fath, bydd rheolau Sefydliad Masnach y Byd yn dod yn gymwys. Byddant yn gymwys; nid oes amheuaeth am hynny. Bydd tariffau'n dod i rym a byddwn yn wynebu tariffau wrth i ni geisio allforio i'n marchnad fwyaf. Mae hynny'n golygu, nid bod hyn yn rhywbeth sy'n hwb i drysorlys y Deyrnas Unedig, oherwydd yr hyn sy'n digwydd gyda thariffau, ac nid yw byth yn cael ei grybwyll gan y rhai sy'n dweud nad ydynt yn broblem, yw bod tariffau'n cael eu gosod ar nwyddau wrth iddynt ddod i mewn i'r Deyrnas Unedig, ac mae'r tariffau hynny'n cael eu trosglwyddo'n syml i'r defnyddiwr; mae'n dreth ar bobl. Telir tariffau gan y defnyddiwr, nid gan fusnesau Ewropeaidd. Felly, efallai y bydd y Trysorlys yn elwa, ond mae'n golygu y bydd aelodau o'r cyhoedd yn y DU yn talu treth ychwanegol i dalu am dariffau. Dyna beth yw tariffau yn y pen draw. Nid yw'n rhyw fath o arian am ddim i Drysorlys y DU; y cyhoedd fydd yn talu amdano. Yn ail, mae busnesau'n ofni gwahanol gyfundrefnau rheoleiddio mewn gwahanol rannau o Ewrop ac wrth gwrs, niwsans pur gwaith papur sy'n ymwneud â thollau. Adiwch hynny ar gyfer pob trafodiad ac mae'n creu rhwystr rhwng y DU a'r UE y gallem wneud hebddo. Beth, felly, am fewnfudo? Nid wyf yn derbyn bod pobl wedi pleidleisio -