English: Llywydd, it was nearly 18 months, I think, in the last Senedd term before the Government published its programme for government, and it was a deeply detailed document; it had all of those bells, whistles, targets, and so on, that he might have been looking for, and indeed we could have decided to do that this time. Because in order to produce a document of that sort, you need an extensive amount of time and effort. My own view is that it was better to put in front of the Senedd a programme for government that captured the essence of what we were committed to in the election, what we wish to achieve as a Government, particularly those things where a cross-Government effort is required to meet the urgency of the tasks that lie in front of us. And that is why, as Rhun ap Iorwerth very properly recognised, some of the detail will be provided by Ministers as the commitments in the manifesto are worked through and the practical actions that lie behind the programme for government can be fleshed out in the detail that he was asking for. On the issue of independence, he's right, of course, that we do take a different view. I would not describe it as being limited by Westminster. I think the scope for independent action by this Senedd has never been more vividly illustrated than over the last 12 months. But I continue to believe that Wales's future is best secured by powerful devolution, entrenched devolution, devolution that cannot be stolen or turned back, but within a United Kingdom in which we voluntarily choose to pool our sovereignty for common purposes, which are better discharged by a population working together on those issues, and climate change would surely be one of those. So, we probably won't need to rehearse the arguments that we set out at extensive length in front of the electorate only weeks ago, and where the electorate has delivered its verdict. We will go on defending this Senedd; we will go on making the case for extended devolution, where we think that is the right thing to do; we will certainly go on making the case for a different future for the United Kingdom; and the commission that we will set up, and the work that will be led by my colleague Mick Antoniw, will allow us to have the depth of understanding and the depth of support from the Welsh public that will give those ideas the credence that they deserve.
Welsh: Llywydd, roedd yn bron 18 mis i mewn i dymor diwethaf y Senedd, rwy'n credu, cyn i'r Llywodraeth gyhoeddi ei rhaglen lywodraethu, ac roedd honno'n ddogfen fanwl dros ben; roedd ynddi'r holl sioe, y nodau a'r targedau, ac ati, y gallai ef fod yn chwilio amdanynt, ac yn wir, fe allem ni fod wedi penderfynu gwneud hynny'r tro hwn. Oherwydd er mwyn cynhyrchu dogfen fel honno, mae angen rhoi llawer iawn o amser ac egni. Fy marn i yw ei bod yn well inni gyflwyno rhaglen lywodraethu gerbron y Senedd a fyddai'n cyfleu hanfod yr hyn yr oeddem wedi ymrwymo iddo yn yr etholiad, yr hyn y dymunwn ei gyflawni yn y Llywodraeth, yn enwedig y pethau y mae angen ymdrech draws-Lywodraethol i ymateb ar fyrder i'r tasgau sydd o'n blaenau. A dyna pam, fel roedd Rhun ap Iorwerth yn iawn i'w gydnabod, y bydd rhai o'r manylion yn cael eu darparu gan Weinidogion wrth i'r ymrwymiadau yn y maniffesto gael eu datblygu ac fe ellir rhoi cnawd ar esgyrn y camau ymarferol sydd wrth gefn y rhaglen lywodraethu yn y manylder yr oedd yn gofyn amdano. O ran annibyniaeth, mae'n gywir i ddweud, wrth gwrs, fod gennym safbwynt gwahanol. Ni fyddwn i'n ei ddisgrifio fel bod wedi ein cyfyngu gan San Steffan. Rwy'n credu na welwyd erioed gyfle mor fywiog i'r Senedd hon weithredu'n annibynnol na'r hyn a ddigwyddodd dros y 12 mis diwethaf. Ond rwy'n dal i gredu mai datganoli grymus, datganoli sefydledig, datganoli na ellir ei ddwyn na'i wrthdroi fyddai'n sicrhau'r dyfodol gorau i Gymru, a hynny o fewn i Deyrnas Unedig lle rydym yn dewis cyfuno ein sofraniaeth ni'n wirfoddol at ddibenion cyffredin, sy'n cael eu cyflawni'n well gan boblogaeth sy'n gweithio gyda'i gilydd ar y materion hynny, ac mae'n siŵr y byddai newid hinsawdd yn un o'r pethau hyn. Felly, mae'n debyg nad oes angen inni ailadrodd y dadleuon a fynegwyd yn drylwyr iawn i'r etholwyr ychydig wythnosau yn ôl, ac ar ôl i'r etholwyr roi eu dyfarniad nhw. Rydym ni'n bwriadu dal ati i amddiffyn y Senedd hon; fe fyddwn ni'n parhau i ddadlau'r achos dros ddatganoli estynedig, lle credwn ni mai dyna'r peth cywir i'w wneud; fe fyddwn ni'n sicr yn parhau i ddadlau'r achos dros ddyfodol arall i'r Deyrnas Unedig; ac fe fydd y comisiwn y byddwn ni'n ei sefydlu, a'r gwaith a arweinir gan fy nghyd-Aelod Mick Antoniw, yn caniatáu inni gael dyfnder deall a dyfnder cefnogaeth gan y cyhoedd yng Nghymru a fydd yn rhoi'r hygrededd i'r syniadau hynny y maen nhw'n ei lawn haeddu.