English: I would agree with that. We have one transport network in Wales and it's crucial that people have the ability to travel, be that by train, by bus or some other model. It is crucial that they have the ability to travel using a single integrated ticket. At the moment, we have a number of train companies - three or four. I think we have 80 different bus companies, each with their own ticketing system. It is crucial, particularly as technology changes the way people travel - . They do insist and they want to use their mobile phone or bank card for payment for transport, and that isn't going to work unless you have a single ticketing framework at a national level. May I also say that it's entirely crucial, whatever system is selected, that that works on a cross-border basis with England too? We already know of our problems in north Wales, that people are travelling over the border between Chester, Liverpool and north Wales regularly. The different systems in terms of discounted ticketing for the elderly, for example, do stop at the border. It's crucial that people have the ability to travel as they wish along the system. So, whatever the appropriate system is for Wales, it's crucial that that actually complies with what's happening in England too. The only way of doing that or securing that is to ensure that you have a national system. At the moment, we have 22 local authorities, plus all of the transport companies, that are part of the mix. Getting any sort of arrangement between them has been difficult, particularly given the lack of resources that we've suffered in the past. So, there is the potential to resolve this. I'm not discounting how complex doing that will be at such a broad level.
Welsh: Dwi'n cytuno efo hynny. Un rhwydwaith trafnidiaeth sydd gennym ni yng Nghymru, ac mae'n allweddol bod pobl efo'r gallu i deithio, boed o'n drên, boed o'n fws neu boed o'n rhyw fodel arall. Mae'n allweddol bod ganddyn nhw'r gallu i deithio drwy ddefnyddio un tocyn. Ar hyn o bryd, mae gennym ni sawl cwmni trên - tri neu bedwar cwmni trên. Mae gennym ni 80, dwi'n meddwl, o gwmnïau bysus gwahanol, pob un efo system docynnau ar wahân i'w gilydd. Mae'n allweddol bod pobl - . Yn enwedig gyda fel y mae technoleg yn newid y ffordd y mae pobl yn teithio, maen nhw'n mynnu a dymuno defnyddio eu ffonau symudol neu gerdyn banc ar gyfer talu. Ond, dydy hynna ddim yn mynd i weithio oni bai bod yna un fframwaith tocynnau cenedlaethol. Gaf i hefyd ddweud ei bod hi'n hollol allweddol, pa bynnag system sy'n cael ei ddewis, bod hwnnw'n gweithio'n drawsffiniol efo Lloegr hefyd? Rydym ni'n gwybod eisoes, o'n problemau ni yng ngogledd Cymru, fod pobl yn teithio ar draws y ffin rhwng Caer a Lerpwl a gogledd Cymru yn rheolaidd. Mae'r gwahanol systemau o ran tocynnau rhad i'r henoed yn stopio ar y ffin. Mae'n allweddol bod pobl efo'r gallu i deithio fel y maen nhw'n dymuno ar un system. So, beth bynnag ydy'r system priodol ar gyfer Cymru, mae'n allweddol bod hwnnw'n cydweithio efo pa bynnag systemau sy'n bodoli yn Lloegr hefyd. Yr unig ffordd o greu hynna yw ei fod o'n system cenedlaethol. Ar hyn o bryd, mae gennym ni 22 awdurdod, plus yr holl gwmnïau trafnidiaeth yn rhan o'r sefyllfa. Mae cael unrhyw fath o drefniant rhyngddyn nhw wedi bod yn anodd, yn enwedig yn sgil y diffyg adnoddau sydd wedi bod yn y gorffennol. So, mae yna botensial i ddatrys hyn, ond dwi ddim yn trio diystyru o gwbl jest pa mor gymhleth ac anodd bydd trio gwneud hynny ar raddfa mor eang.