English: I'm grateful to you, Deputy Presiding Officer. Minister, I'm worried, and I hope you can reassure me. You're allocating £144 million a year for the next five years. That's over £700 million, and we don't know what we're going to get for it. That worries me. It worries me, because your starting point is that you're replacing previous funds, and I don't know what was delivered by those previous funds. The last plan available to us in Gwent was published for 2018-19. It didn't contain a single target, a single objective, or a single timescale. Now, if we're to hold the Government to account for delivering on these matters, we need to know those things in advance, and we need to understand what the Government is seeking to achieve. We can all see the problem. It's the easiest thing in the world to describe the problem, and Members have this afternoon: you can see the ambulances outside the hospitals; you can see the people suffering; you can see the people who need the help and support. We can all describe the problems, but is the solution to all of those problems more committees and throwing money at those committees? I'm yet to be convinced, and I'm yet to be convinced because we've tried it before and it hasn't worked. And we've tried it before, and we've set these outcomes frameworks before, but what we've done is not set clear targets about what we want to achieve, but count what happened. And when you count what happened, you simply say, 'Well, we've done all of these different things.' And individual examples, local examples, are all very good, and it's not a criticism of any of those people who are working hard to seek to achieve different things locally - that's all admirable, to be supported - but it's not a policy, and it's not an ambition, and it's not a framework for policy, and it's not a framework for ambition. So, my concern is that we have a broken system, but is yet another committee the way of repairing it? Twenty years of doing this has told us it isn't. And I'm concerned that we've got £700 million going into a system that desperately needs support, and before Mike Hedges corrects me, I mean the whole system not just the health part of it. It all needs support, but it needs support on the front line. What it doesn't need is another hierarchy that won't deliver on the front line.
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar i chi, Dirprwy Lywydd. Gweinidog, rwy'n ofidus, ac rwy'n gobeithio y gallwch chi roi sicrwydd i mi. Rydych chi am ddyrannu £144 miliwn y flwyddyn am y pum mlynedd nesaf. Dyna dros £700 miliwn, ac nid ydym ni'n gwybod beth fyddwn ni'n ei gael amdano. Mae hynny'n fy mhoeni i. Mae'n fy mhoeni i oherwydd eich man cychwyn chi yw eich bod chi'n dymuno disodli cronfeydd blaenorol ac nid wyf i'n gwybod beth oedd y cronfeydd blaenorol hynny'n ei ddarparu. Fe gyhoeddwyd y cynllun diwethaf sydd ar gael i ni yng Ngwent ar gyfer 2018-19. Nid oedd hwnnw'n cynnwys yr un nod, yr un amcan, na'r un amserlen. Nawr, os ydym ni am ddwyn y Llywodraeth i gyfrif am gyflawni'r materion hyn, mae angen i ni wybod am y pethau hynny ymlaen llaw, ac mae angen i ni ddeall yr hyn y mae'r Llywodraeth yn ceisio ei gyflawni. Fe all pob un ohonom ni weld y broblem. Y peth hawsaf yn y byd yw disgrifio'r broblem, ac mae Aelodau wedi gwneud hynny'r prynhawn yma: rydych chi'n gallu gweld yr ambiwlansys y tu allan i'r ysbytai; fe allwch chi weld y bobl sy'n dioddef; fe allwch chi weld y bobl sydd ag angen cymorth a chefnogaeth. Fe allwn ni i gyd ddisgrifio'r problemau, ond ai'r ateb i'r holl broblemau hynny yw mwy o bwyllgorau a thaflu arian at y pwyllgorau hynny? Ni chefais i fy argyhoeddi eto, ac ni chefais i fy argyhoeddi eto am ein bod ni wedi rhoi cynnig arni o'r blaen ac ni weithiodd hynny ddim. Ac rydym ni wedi rhoi cynnig arni hi o'r blaen, ac rydym ni wedi rhoi'r fframweithiau hyn o ran canlyniadau yn eu lle o'r blaen, ond nid ydym ni wedi pennu nodau eglur o ran yr hyn yr ydym ni'n awyddus i'w gyflawni, dim ond rhifo'r hyn sydd wedi digwydd. A phan ydych chi'n rhifo'r hyn a ddigwyddodd, rydych chi'n dweud, 'Wel, rydym ni wedi gwneud y gwahanol bethau hyn i gyd.' Ac mae'r enghreifftiau unigol, yr enghreifftiau lleol, i gyd yn ganmoladwy iawn, ac nid beirniadaeth mo hon ar unrhyw un o'r bobl hynny sy'n gweithio yn galed i geisio cyflawni gwahanol bethau yn lleol - pethau rhagorol yw'r rhain i gyd, sydd i'w cefnogi - ond nid polisi mo hwn, ac nid uchelgais mohono, ac nid fframwaith ar gyfer polisi mohono, ac nid fframwaith ar gyfer uchelgais mohono, ychwaith. Felly, fy mhryder i yw mai system ddrylliedig sydd gennym ni, ond ai sefydlu pwyllgor arall yw'r ffordd o'i hatgyweirio hi? Mae ugain mlynedd o wneud fel hyn wedi dweud wrthym ni nad yw hynny'n wir. Ac rwy'n ofidus fod gennym ni £700 miliwn yn mynd i system y mae taer angen cymorth arni, a chyn i Mike Hedges fy nghywiro i, y system gyfan yr wyf i'n ei olygu, ac nid yr adran ohoni sy'n ymwneud ag iechyd yn unig. Mae angen cymorth arni hi yn ei chyfanrwydd, ond mae angen cymorth arni hi ar y rheng flaen. Yr hyn nad oes ei angen arni hi yw hierarchaeth arall na fydd yn cyflawni dim ar y rheng flaen.