English: I think that you are aware already aware that Mudiad Meithrin is concerned about the framework that has been set out to ensure that settings can continue to be Welsh-medium and have this immersion process. We were disappointed, and we lobbied throughout the development of the curriculum and the Bill that there should be a fair treatment of both languages, obviously, and that the importance of immersion was recognised as the most successful way of creating Welsh speakers and that we wanted to see an increase in the number of children in Wales who had the opportunity to become fluent Welsh speakers. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, we have the draft of the Bill that we have now. We are genuinely concerned that this will be more damaging than helpful to us. A situation setting English as the major language of education is entirely new - we haven't had that situation before, as far as I can see, for children under the age of seven, and now we have a clause in the Bill that sets an expectation that English is the language of education. And then there is the freedom for a headteacher of a school or a non-maintained setting to opt out of that and to decide to what extent they're going to teach English, if at all, in order to be Welsh-medium settings. For us, this is extremely problematic. In terms of principle, the languages aren't treated with parity of esteem; there's the message that's set out, and people could read that as, 'Oh, right, if English is the automatic language, we should do some element of English because that's the major expectation'. So, we do believe that this could have unintended consequences, it's true to say, but we don't believe that this is a satisfactory solution at all.
Welsh: Dwi'n meddwl eich bod chi siŵr o fod yn ymwybodol eisoes bod Mudiad Meithrin yn poeni am y fframwaith sydd wedi cael ei osod allan i sicrhau bod modd i leoliadau barhau i fod yn lleoliadau cyfrwng Cymraeg a throchi plant. Roeddem ni'n hynod o siomedig, a fe wnaethom ni lobio trwy gydol datblygiad y cwricwlwm a'r Bil fod yna driniaeth deg o'r ddwy iaith, yn amlwg, a bod pwysigrwydd trochi yn cael ei gydnabod fel y modd mwyaf llwyddiannus o greu siaradwyr Cymraeg a'n bod ni eisiau gweld ehangu yn nifer y blant yng Nghymru oedd yn cael y cyfle i ddod yn siaradwyr Cymraeg rhugl. Yn anffodus, am ba bynnag rheswm, mae gyda ni'r drafft o'r Bil sydd gyda ni nawr. Dŷn ni wirioneddol yn poeni bod hwn yn mynd i fod yn fwy niweidiol nag o help i ni. Mae sefyllfa lle mae gosod Saesneg fel prif iaith ddisgwyliedig addysg yn rhywbeth newydd llwyr - dydyn ni ddim wedi cael hynny o'r blaen, hyd y gwelaf i, i blant o dan saith, ac nawr mae gyda ni gymal yn y Bil sydd yn gosod disgwyliad mai Saesneg ydy iaith addysg, a wedyn bod yna rhyddid i brifathro ysgol neu leoliadau nas gynhelir eithrio eu hunain rhag hynny a phenderfynu i ba raddau maen nhw'n mynd i ddysgu Saesneg, os ydyn nhw'n mynd i o gwbl, er mwyn cael bod yn lleoliadau cyfrwng Cymraeg. I ni, mae hyn yn hynod broblematig. Ar sail egwyddor, dydy'r ddwy iaith ddim yn cael yr un driniaeth; ar sail y neges sy'n cael ei rhoi allan fel yna a'r modd y gallai pobl ddarllen hynny i feddwl, 'O, reit, wel os mai Saesneg ydy'r awtomatig, well i ni wneud rhywfaint o Saesneg achos yn amlwg dyna beth yw'r prif ddisgwyliad'. So, rydyn ni wir yn credu gallai hyn arwain at ganlyniadau anfwriadol, mae'n wir, ond dŷn ni ddim yn meddwl bod hwn yn ddatrysiad boddhaol o gwbl.