English: Thank you, Minister, for your statement. I've said to you before and I'll repeat it again, I believe that you have one of the most exciting opportunities in Government to actually genuinely shape a policy that historically has been shaped some distance from these shores over the last 45 to 50 years. Irrespective of what people think about Brexit - and I appreciate there have been many heated debates in this Chamber - as the First Minister said in responding to my question this afternoon, for the first time there will be the ability for Welsh Government Ministers to direct the support and policy in this particular area and across the rural economy, and that's something that has to be welcomed. I also welcome - . I'll go to the end of your statement, if I may, where I'll start. I do welcome the assertion from your good self - and I can appreciate the Member for Mid and West Wales chuntering away from a sedentary position, offering commentary as much as she wants - but I do note in the statement that you give the reassurance that any moneys that will come forward will stay in the rural affairs department and be directed at forestry, agriculture and other initiatives to support the rural economy. I think that's a really important assertion to make here because there have been concerns that, potentially, some of this money could go into other projects, and I appreciate not from the Government bench, but certainly from other commentators in this particular area. So, I think that's a very important assertion that has been given. But then I move on into the statement where it says that the implementation of any of these policies needs to be 'realistic for farmers to implement'. I notice that in the statement it doesn't talk of what we've seen in the explanatory documents about bespoke plans for each and every farm. I do wonder how logistically you're going to be able to achieve that. I have to declare an interest: it's in the register of Members' interests that I'm a farmer myself and I have some experience of the Tir Gofal scheme and the Glastir scheme. These types of schemes are very complicated, take a huge amount of time to develop, and the mapping exercises and all the other pieces of information that have to be collected to create that very personal plan for that particular business are hugely time-consuming and bureaucratic. So, I'd be grateful if you could highlight in your response to me how you see that actually being implemented in (a) the time frame you've got, and (b) in the very bespoke way that you refer to in the explanatory documentation that you've released with this statement today. Because obviously that is a massive exercise that needs to be undertaken. Moving on into what you've done now by bringing the two streams that you originally proposed in 'Brexit and our land' and moving it into the one stream of support. Obviously what's happened historically under the common agricultural policy is you've had the direct support for agriculture and you've had the RDP - two separate streams. I'd be grateful to understand - because you touch on it in your statement about developing capacity for skills, developing other business models to support the rural economy - if it is not to be envisaged that there will be a similar RDP-type project, how exactly are you going to make moneys available in a one-size-fits-all project, which again could in one breath be simplified but in another breath be hugely complicated as well if it's trying to be captured by one overarching scheme? I think that a more detailed explanation of how that might happen would be appreciated. I really do welcome the focus on quality food and food production. We have a very good story to tell here in Wales and, obviously, the original consultation didn't really spend much time talking about what the productivity of the industry might be. I think that's a welcome change in tone that has been brought forward. What we've found in the environment committee is the danger or the vulnerability of the tenanted sector, and I do think that any scheme that comes forward does need to obviously reflect on the tenanted sector here in Wales. A third of land in Wales is under the tenanted regime, and it is important that it is actually the person who's delivering the public goods that receives that money, I would suggest. There are many clever surveyors out there and many clever agents out there who will, no doubt, find one way or another of developing a scheme around this. But I do hope that the Minister can give us some comfort in the formation of her schemes that her department and her officials are looking at making sure that the principle has to be that the person delivering the public goods element will be the recipient of the support from the Welsh Government. The modelling and impact assessment that you talk about in here is welcome, but it would be good to try and get an understanding of the time frame that you're working to, given the very tight time frame that we're talking of. As I understand it, little or no modelling to date has been done on many of these proposals, and I know, again, if I refer to my experience on the environment committee that has looked at this, that has been an area of concern that we have looked at. At the start of the statement, you talk about the contribution of farmers, foresters and other land managers. I'd be grateful to understand who you're referring to when you talk of 'other land managers' because they are ultimately going to be eligible, I assume, for support under this. At the moment, there's about 16,000 or 17,000 recipients under the common agricultural policy. Potentially, if we do not get an eligibility criteria into this scheme, evidence that we have taken points to the fact that you could potentially have as much as 40,000 to 45,000 recipients under the scheme. Just logistically, that's going to be a huge management exercise, just introducing all those new recipients. But also, whatever quantum of money that is made available will be spread that much thinner and maybe not achieve the goals, aims and aspirations that you're looking to achieve. I think it's really important that we look at this as a positive journey that ultimately can reduce and rectify some of the issues that we've had under the common agricultural policy. If implemented correctly - and, as I said, the tone has changed in this statement, to reflect the importance of food production, productivity and skills, and the vital role that agriculture and farmers play in developing the rural economy - then, we can have a successful outcome. And I do welcome the change in tone in the statement and the accompanying notes that have come with it.
Welsh: Diolch, Gweinidog, am eich datganiad. Rwyf wedi dweud wrthych o'r blaen ac fe wnaf i ei ailadrodd eto, rwy'n credu bod gennych chi un o'r cyfleoedd mwyaf cyffrous yn y Llywodraeth i lunio polisi sydd, yn hanesyddol, wedi cael ei lunio gryn bellter o'r glannau hyn yn ystod y 45 i 50 o flynyddoedd diwethaf. Ni waeth beth yw barn pobl am Brexit - ac rwy'n gwerthfawrogi bod llawer o ddadleuon chwyrn wedi bod yn y Siambr hon - fel y dywedodd y Prif Weinidog wrth ymateb i fy nghwestiwn y prynhawn yma, am y tro cyntaf bydd yn bosibl i Weinidogion Llywodraeth Cymru gyfarwyddo'r gefnogaeth a'r polisi yn y maes penodol hwn a ledled yr economi wledig, ac mae hynny'n rhywbeth y dylid ei groesawu. Rwyf i hefyd yn croesawu - . Af i at ddiwedd eich datganiad, os caf i, lle y byddaf i'n dechrau. Rwy'n croesawu'r honiad gennych - a gallaf werthfawrogi'r Aelod dros Ganolbarth a Gorllewin Cymru yn mwmian ar ei heistedd, gan gynnig sylwebaeth yn ôl ei dymuniad - ond rwy'n nodi yn y datganiad eich bod yn rhoi sicrwydd y bydd unrhyw arian a ddaw yn aros yn yr adran materion gwledig ac yn cael ei gyfeirio at goedwigaeth, amaethyddiaeth a mentrau eraill i gefnogi'r economi wledig. Rwy'n credu bod hynny'n honiad pwysig iawn i'w wneud yma oherwydd y bu pryderon y gallai peth o'r arian hwn, o bosibl, fynd at brosiectau eraill, ac rwy'n gwerthfawrogi, nid gan fainc y Llywodraeth, ond yn sicr gan sylwebyddion eraill yn y maes penodol hwn. Felly, rwy'n credu bod yr honiad hwnnw a roddwyd yn un pwysig iawn. Ond wedyn, symudaf ymlaen at y datganiad lle mae'n dweud bod angen i'r broses o gyflawni unrhyw un o'r polisïau hyn fod yn 'realistig i ffermwyr eu gweithredu'. Rwy'n sylwi nad yw'r datganiad yn sôn am yr hyn yr ydym ni wedi'i weld yn y dogfennau esboniadol am gynlluniau pwrpasol ar gyfer pob fferm unigol. Tybed sut, yn logistaidd, yr ydych chi'n mynd i allu cyflawni hynny. Mae'n rhaid i mi ddatgan buddiant: mae wedi'i nodi yng nghofrestr buddiannau'r Aelodau fy mod i'n ffermwr fy hun ac mae gen i rywfaint o brofiad o'r cynllun Tir Gofal a'r cynllun Glastir. Mae'r mathau hyn o gynlluniau yn gymhleth iawn, yn cymryd llawer iawn o amser i'w datblygu, ac mae'r ymarferion mapio a'r holl ddarnau eraill o wybodaeth y mae'n rhaid eu casglu er mwyn creu'r cynllun personol iawn hwnnw ar gyfer y busnes penodol hwnnw yn cymryd llawer o amser ac yn fiwrocrataidd. Felly, byddwn i'n ddiolchgar pe gallech chi amlygu yn eich ymateb i mi sut yr ydych chi'n gweld hynny'n cael ei roi ar waith yn (a) yr amserlen sydd gennych chi, a (b) yn y ffordd bwrpasol iawn yr ydych yn cyfeirio ati yn y dogfennau esboniadol yr ydych chi wedi'u cyhoeddi gyda'r datganiad hwn heddiw. Oherwydd, yn amlwg, mae hwnnw'n ymarfer enfawr y mae angen ei gyflawni. Gan symud ymlaen at yr hyn yr ydych chi wedi'i wneud nawr drwy ddod â'r ddwy ffrwd a gynigiwyd gennych chi'n wreiddiol yn 'Brexit a'n tir' a'u newid i fod yn un ffrwd o gymorth. Yn amlwg, yr hyn sydd wedi digwydd yn hanesyddol o dan y polisi amaethyddol cyffredin yw eich bod chi wedi bod â'r gefnogaeth uniongyrchol i amaethyddiaeth ac rydych chi wedi bod â'r cynllun datblygu gwledig - dwy ffrwd ar wahân. Byddwn i'n ddiolchgar o gael deall - oherwydd yr ydych chi'n sôn yn fras amdano yn eich datganiad am ddatblygu gallu ar gyfer sgiliau, datblygu modelau busnes eraill i gefnogi'r economi wledig - os na ragwelir y bydd prosiect tebyg i'r cynllun datblygu gwledig, sut yn union ydych chi'n mynd i sicrhau bod arian ar gael mewn prosiect sy'n addas i bawb, a allai, eto, gael ei symleiddio ar y naill law ond ar y llaw arall a allai fod yn hynod gymhleth hefyd os yw'n ceisio cael ei gynnal gan un cynllun trosfwaol? Rwy'n credu y byddem yn gwerthfawrogi esboniad manylach o'r modd y gallai hynny ddigwydd. Rwyf i wir yn croesawu'r pwyslais ar fwyd a chynhyrchu bwyd o safon. Mae gennym ni stori dda i'w hadrodd yma yng Nghymru ac, yn amlwg, nid oedd yr ymgynghoriad gwreiddiol wedi treulio llawer o amser yn sôn am gynhyrchiant posibl y diwydiant. Rwy'n credu bod hynny'n newid cywair i'w groesawu sydd wedi'i gyflwyno. Yr hyn yr ydym ni wedi'i ganfod ym mhwyllgor yr amgylchedd yw perygl neu amlygiad i niwed y sector tenantiaid, ac rwy'n credu bod angen i unrhyw gynllun a gyflwynir adlewyrchu'r sector tenantiaid yma yng Nghymru yn glir. Mae traean o dir Cymru o dan y drefn denantiaid, ac mae'n bwysig mai'r person sy'n darparu'r nwyddau cyhoeddus sy'n cael yr arian hwnnw, byddwn i'n ei awgrymu. Ceir llawer o syrfewyr clyfar a llawer o asiantau clyfar a fydd, mae'n siŵr, yn dod o hyd i un ffordd neu'r llall o ddatblygu cynllun yn seiliedig ar hyn. Ond gobeithiaf y gall y Gweinidog roi rhywfaint o gysur inni wrth ffurfio ei chynlluniau bod ei hadran a'i swyddogion yn ystyried sicrhau mai'r egwyddor yw mai'r sawl sy'n darparu'r elfen nwyddau cyhoeddus fydd yn derbyn y gefnogaeth gan Lywodraeth Cymru. Mae'r asesiad modelu ac effaith yr ydych yn sôn amdano yma i'w groesawu, ond byddai'n dda ceisio deall yr amserlen yr ydych chi'n gweithio iddi, o ystyried yr amserlen dynn iawn rydyn ni'n sôn amdani. Yn ôl yr hyn a ddeallaf i, ychydig iawn o fodelu, os o gwbl, a wnaed ar lawer o'r cynigion hyn, a gwn i eto, os cyfeiriaf at fy mhrofiad ar bwyllgor yr amgylchedd sydd wedi ystyried hyn, bod hwnnw wedi bod yn destun pryder yr ydym ni wedi'i ystyried. Ar ddechrau'r datganiad, rydych chi'n sôn am gyfraniad ffermwyr, coedwigwyr a rheolwyr tir eraill. Byddwn i'n ddiolchgar o gael deall at bwy yr ydych chi'n cyfeirio wrth sôn am 'reolwyr tir eraill' oherwydd maen nhw yn y pen draw yn mynd i fod yn gymwys, rwy'n tybio, i gael cefnogaeth o dan hyn. Ar hyn o bryd, mae tua 16,000 neu 17,000 o dderbynyddion o dan y polisi amaethyddol cyffredin. Os na chawn ni feini prawf cymhwysedd yn y cynllun hwn, mae tystiolaeth yr ydym ni wedi'i chymryd yn awgrymu y gallech chi fod â chymaint â 40,000 i 45,000 o dderbynyddion o dan y cynllun. Yn logistaidd, mae hynny'n mynd i fod yn ymarfer rheoli enfawr, dim ond cyflwyno'r holl dderbynyddion newydd hynny. Ond hefyd, bydd pa bynnag gwantwm o arian a fydd ar gael yn cael ei daenu'n llawer teneuach ac efallai na fydd yn cyflawni'r nodau, yr amcanion a'r dyheadau yr ydych chi'n ceisio eu cyflawni. Rwy'n credu ei bod yn bwysig iawn ein bod yn edrych ar y daith hon fel taith bositif a all, yn y pen draw, leihau a datrys rhai o'r problemau sydd wedi bod gennym o dan y polisi amaethyddol cyffredin. Os caiff ei weithredu'n gywir - ac, fel y dywedais i, mae'r cywair wedi newid yn y datganiad hwn, er mwyn adlewyrchu pwysigrwydd cynhyrchu bwyd, cynhyrchiant a sgiliau, a'r swyddogaeth hanfodol sydd gan amaethyddiaeth a ffermwyr wrth ddatblygu'r economi wledig - yna, fe allwn ni gael canlyniad llwyddiannus. Ac rwy'n croesawu'r newid yng nghywair y datganiad a'r nodiadau cysylltiedig sy'n cyd-fynd ag ef.