English: I'm not going to engage in any party politics on this, but what I am going to do is express some of the thought that I've given this matter, and some of the views that have been expressed to me by constituents as well. But, first of all, I want to thank the National Farmers Union and the Farmers' Union of Wales for meeting with me last week. We had an hour-long meeting, and we've been in dialogue last year about this issue, and it's undoubtedly the case that there is very real concern in the farming community about these regulations, particularly with regard to the need to keep a nutrient management plan, the limitations on spreading, which will require storage facilities that some farms are concerned - particularly small farms who cannot absorb the cost - about the facilities that they will need in order to store slurry. Now, I've raised this, as a result of those conversations with Welsh Government, and I've had a response, which I'd like the Minister to elaborate on in her answer to this debate. First of all, she said - sorry, the Welsh Government response said - that the requirements in the regulations are basic and do not require soil testing, which you have to do in Scotland, and are compatible with nutrient management software routinely used by the industry. Standard values for nutrient content of manures are provided and there are step-by-step tools available. Much more sophisticated forms of nutrient management may be something that the sustainable farming scheme can provide. There's no need to employ consultants, particularly on small farms, because the Farming Connect Advisory Service can provide expert independent and bespoke advice, for which there is also, through Farming Connect, funding available. And the other issue I raised was regarding the spread of the slurry, in which they said that storage in a small farm is not necessary in all circumstances, as you can treat it as manure, which is still permitted to be spread under the new regulations. Those periods do not apply to farmyard manure, which can be stored in field heap, subject to certain conditions to minimise pollution risk. If they're producing larger volumes of slurry, then, this would be a significant pollution risk and would not be compliant with current regulations. Now, that's the response I've had with regard to concerns I've raised with the Welsh Government. I'd like the Minister to be able to tell us that, should the concerns that have been raised by the previous speakers come to fruition, there will be flexibility within the plan to address that, and provide support for those farmers who may be unduly affected in ways that the Welsh Government hasn't considered in their answer to me. So, it's been something I've considered very, very carefully, and I need to come back to my constituency. There's an industrial size dairy farm in Gelligaer, in my constituency. It's an enormous farm, and there have been reports - . You've probably seen in WalesOnline a report that said Gelligaer is the village that stinks all-year round. Now, I know this is related to river pollution, but, nonetheless, odour is a huge issue with regard to spreading. I've had meetings with residents and NRW. NRW said to me that - . When I've gone to them before, they've said, 'We simply haven't got the powers to deal with this. There's a strong and offensive odour in Gelligaer, and we haven't got the powers to deal with this.' When I spoke to NRW last week, they said that this will give them the powers to deal with it; this will give them the powers. In fact, what they said is they would go further, and have a phosphate plan included in it too. The Government isn't going that far. People in Gelligaer, Penybryn, Nelson and Ystrad Mynach have suffered too long with issues related to that farm in Gelligaer, and it is the regulations that are at fault, not the farm, and we need stronger regulations in those circumstances. So, in those circumstances, I would be calling for an NVZ for my area, for that community. People of Gelligaer, Ystrad Mynach, Nelson and Penybryn want more farming regulations, not less. They want more regulating of activity, not less, because what they are seeing at the moment is not enough powers to deal with the concerns that they've got -
Welsh: Nid wyf am ymroi i wleidyddiaeth plaid ar hyn, ond yr hyn rwyf am ei wneud yw mynegi rhywfaint o'r meddwl rwyf wedi'i wneud ar y mater hwn, a rhai o'r safbwyntiau a fynegwyd wrthyf gan etholwyr hefyd. Ond yn gyntaf oll, hoffwn ddiolch i Undeb Cenedlaethol yr Amaethwyr ac Undeb Amaethwyr Cymru am gyfarfod â mi yr wythnos diwethaf. Cawsom gyfarfod awr o hyd, ac rydym wedi bod mewn trafodaethau ar y mater hwn y llynedd, ac mae'n sicr bod pryder gwirioneddol yn y gymuned ffermio mewn perthynas â'r rheoliadau hyn, yn enwedig o ran yr angen i gadw cynllun rheoli maethynnau, y cyfyngiadau ar wasgaru, a fydd galw am gyfleusterau storio y mae rhai ffermydd yn pryderu y byddant eu hangen i storio slyri - yn enwedig ffermydd bach na allant amsugno'r gost. Nawr, rwyf wedi codi hyn, o ganlyniad i'r sgyrsiau hynny gyda Llywodraeth Cymru, ac rwyf wedi cael ymateb, a hoffwn i'r Gweinidog ymhelaethu arno yn ei hateb i'r ddadl hon. Yn gyntaf oll, dywedodd ymateb Llywodraeth Cymru fod y gofynion yn y rheoliadau yn sylfaenol ac nad oes angen cynnal profion pridd, fel y mae'n rhaid ei wneud yn yr Alban, a'u bod yn gydnaws â meddalwedd rheoli maethynnau a ddefnyddir gan y diwydiant fel mater o drefn. Darperir gwerthoedd safonol ar gyfer cynnwys maethynnol tail ac mae offer cam wrth gam ar gael. Gall dulliau llawer mwy soffistigedig o reoli maethynnau fod yn rhywbeth y gall y cynllun ffermio cynaliadwy ei ddarparu. Nid oes angen cyflogi ymgynghorwyr, yn enwedig ar ffermydd bach, oherwydd gall Gwasanaeth Cynghori Cyswllt Ffermio ddarparu cyngor annibynnol pwrpasol ac arbenigol, ac mae cyllid ar gael ar gyfer hynny hefyd drwy Cyswllt Ffermio. Ac roedd y mater arall a godais yn ymwneud â gwasgaru'r slyri, lle dywedasant nad oes angen storio ar fferm fach ym mhob amgylchiad, gan y gallwch ei drin fel tail, y caniateir ei wasgaru o hyd o dan y rheoliadau newydd. Nid yw'r cyfnodau hynny'n berthnasol i dail buarth, y gellir ei storio mewn cae, yn ddarostyngedig i amodau penodol ar gyfer lleihau'r risg o lygredd. Os ydynt yn cynhyrchu mwy o slyri, byddai hyn yn risg sylweddol o lygredd ac ni fyddai'n cydymffurfio â'r rheoliadau presennol. Nawr, dyna'r ymateb rwyf wedi'i gael ynghylch pryderon rwyf wedi'u dwyn i sylw Llywodraeth Cymru. Hoffwn pe bai'r Gweinidog yn gallu dweud wrthym, pe bai'r pryderon a fynegwyd gan y siaradwyr blaenorol yn cael eu gwireddu, y bydd hyblygrwydd o fewn y cynllun i fynd i'r afael â hynny, a rhoi cymorth i'r ffermwyr a allai gael eu heffeithio'n ormodol mewn ffyrdd nad yw Llywodraeth Cymru wedi'u hystyried yn eu hateb i mi. Felly, mae wedi bod yn rhywbeth rwyf wedi'i ystyried yn ofalus iawn, ac mae angen i mi ddod yn ôl at fy etholaeth. Mae fferm laeth o faint diwydiannol yng Ngelli-gaer yn fy etholaeth i. Mae'n fferm enfawr, a chafwyd adroddiadau - . Mae'n debyg eich bod wedi gweld adroddiad ar WalesOnline a oedd yn dweud mai Gelli-gaer yw'r pentref sy'n drewi drwy gydol y flwyddyn. Nawr, gwn fod hyn yn gysylltiedig â llygredd afonydd, ond er hynny, mae arogleuon yn broblem enfawr mewn perthynas â gwasgaru slyri. Rwyf wedi cael cyfarfodydd gyda thrigolion ac CNC. Dywedodd CNC wrthyf - . Pan siaradais â hwy o'r blaen, roeddent yn dweud, 'Nid oes gennym bwerau i ymdrin â hyn. Mae arogl cryf ac annymunol yng Ngelli-gaer, ac nid oes gennym bwerau i ymdrin â hyn.' Pan siaradais ag CNC yr wythnos diwethaf, roeddent yn dweud y bydd y rheoliadau hyn yn rhoi pwerau iddynt ymdrin â hynny; bydd hyn yn rhoi'r pwerau iddynt. Yn wir, roeddent yn dweud y byddent yn mynd ymhellach, a sicrhau bod cynllun ffosffad wedi'i gynnwys ynddo hefyd. Nid yw'r Llywodraeth yn mynd mor bell â hynny. Mae pobl yng Ngelli-gaer, Pen-y-bryn, Nelson ac Ystrad Mynach wedi dioddef yn rhy hir gyda phroblemau'n ymwneud â'r fferm honno yng Ngelli-gaer, a'r rheoliadau sydd ar fai, nid y fferm, ac mae angen rheoliadau cryfach arnom o dan yr amgylchiadau hynny. Felly, o dan yr amgylchiadau hynny, byddwn yn galw am barth perygl nitradau ar gyfer fy ardal i, ar gyfer y gymuned honno. Mae pobl Gelli-gaer, Ystrad Mynach, Nelson a Phen-y-bryn eisiau mwy o reoliadau ffermio, nid llai. Maent eisiau mwy o reoleiddio gweithgarwch, nid llai, oherwydd nid oes ganddynt ddigon o bwerau ar hyn o bryd i ymdrin â'r pryderon sydd ganddynt -