English: Well, the issue about disabled people is a good one, and obviously one of the pilots in particular is looking to expand on a current operation that does employ a number of disabled people already. Actually, Remploy never employed only disabled people; there were always people in the management echelons, for example, who were not disabled. What we're looking to do with these pilots is make sure that people have a range of opportunities for intermediate labour market opportunities. So, for example, if you take a garment factory, there will clearly be people who are producing the actual garments, doing the sewing, doing the cutting and so on, but there will also be people who are learning how to do the business production, the sales, the marketing, the running of the factory, the budgeting, the management and so on, and we are very insistent that all of those opportunities are available to all the people who are going through the intermediate labour market route, so that you don't just learn to be one of the things; you have a range of opportunities and you're able to try out your skills in a range of the opportunities available. It's perfectly possible that some of the people who go in on the basis of being an intermediate route to another market may find that, actually, they're not able to move on and we may find that we have some sheltered employment for people with disabilities who aren't able to move on, but the aim is to ensure that everybody can go out and get a productive job, a better job closer to their home, with good, fair, working conditions and that these pilot schemes will be the engines of that skills increase. But, Deputy Presiding Officer, if, in themselves, they turn into highly competitive, large employers, then I will be delighted with that as an outcome as well.
Welsh: Wel, mae'r mater ynghylch pobl anabl yn un da, ac yn amlwg mae un o'r unedau peilot yn benodol yn ystyried ehangu ar weithrediad presennol sydd eisoes yn cyflogi nifer o bobl anabl. Mewn gwirionedd, nid oedd Remploy byth yn cyflogi dim ond pobl anabl; roedd yna bobl yn y haenau rheoli, er enghraifft, nad oedden nhw'n anabl. Yr hyn yr ydym ni'n ceisio ei wneud gyda'r cynlluniau peilot hyn yw gwneud yn siŵr bod pobl yn cael amrywiaeth o gyfleoedd ar gyfer cyfleoedd marchnad lafur drosiannol. Felly, er enghraifft, os gymerwn ni ffatri ddillad, mae'n amlwg y bydd yna bobl sy'n cynhyrchu'r dillad eu hunain, yn gwnïo, torri ac ati, ond hefyd, bydd yna pobl sy'n dysgu sut i wneud y busnes cynhyrchu, y gwaith gwerthu, y gwaith marchnata, rhedeg y ffatri, y gwaith cyllidebu, y gwaith rheoli ac ati, ac rydym ni'n benderfynol iawn bod y cyfleoedd hynny i gyd ar gael i bawb sy'n mynd drwy'r llwybr marchnad lafur drosiannol, fel nad ydych chi'n dysgu dim ond un o'r pethau hynny; fe gewch chi amrywiaeth o gyfleoedd ac fe fyddwch chi'n gallu rhoi prawf ar eich sgiliau mewn amrywiaeth o gyfleoedd sydd ar gael. Mae'n gwbl bosibl y gallai rhai o'r bobl sy'n dechrau yno ar y sail ei fod yn llwybr trosiannol i farchnad, yn darganfod, mewn gwirionedd, nad ydyn nhw'n gallu symud ymlaen ac efallai y byddwn yn gweld bod angen rhyw gyflogaeth warchodol i bobl ag anableddau nad ydyn nhw'n gallu symud ymlaen, ond y nod yw sicrhau y gall pawb fynd allan a chael swydd gynhyrchiol, swydd well yn agosach at eu cartref, ag amodau gweithio da a theg, ac y bydd y cynlluniau peilot hyn yn sbarduno'r cynnydd hwnnw mewn sgiliau. Ond, Dirprwy Lywydd, os byddan nhw, ynddynt eu hunain, yn dod yn gyflogwyr mawr, hynod gystadleuol, yna byddwn i wrth fy modd â hynny fel canlyniad hefyd.