English: Plaid Cymru will vote against the main regulations to establish the corporate joint committees today. I would call on all Members to do likewise. Plaid Cymru does believe that Welsh governance for the future should continue to include local, regional and the national and agrees that we need the right structures in place to support effective decision making at the right level, with democratic accountability for the people the structures serve. Any change needs to happen as part of a clear vision for the governance of Wales in its entirety in order to deliver specific principles, and unfortunately, I don't think that that's the case here - principles such as transforming public services, connecting all communities in Wales, ensuring that we get the best benefit from taxpayers' money and avoiding duplication. Unfortunately, this isn't a plan for the long term, but an unacceptable attempt to rush far-reaching change through the Senedd with just a week to go of our mandate, during a pandemic, without any clear vision seeming to be a foundation for these changes. Clearly, because of COVID, the whole process has happened with haste, and the primary legislation enabling the introduction of the corporate joint committees came into force in January whilst the majority of the bodies delivering public services affected by this were fighting the worst wave of the pandemic. There has inadequate consultation, and that's been harshly criticised by local authorities, and also civic society, as has already been set out. They're all concerned about the impact of the undemocratic changes. There's an expectation for the regulations to come into force - if they are passed by the Senedd - on 1 April when this Senedd will no longer be sitting. The purpose of elections is to allow people to make their own decisions, so, clearly, I would say that the appropriate thing to do would be to allow the parties to put forward their vision for Welsh governance before the people of Wales, so that the people can decide whether they agree. Voluntary collaborative working, of course, is something that's very important, and it has been happening for a number of years in Wales, to various extents and with various success, but the changes proposed here are far-reaching, as we've heard. It creates new entities that can employ staff, as Laura Jones has set out, including chief executives and senior staff, it can hold assets, and it would mean a major change in the landscape of Welsh governance. But it's not only in terms of the deficiencies of the process and a lack of vision that I would oppose, basically because of the substance here too, because it's a plan that will clearly be very expensive. I would say that it would be a waste of that money, in addition to problems in terms of a democratic deficit. In north Wales, for example, the Minister has confirmed that there will be two regional structures running side by side for economic development responsibilities of the ambition board, which was established by the UK city deals and the corporate joint committees. I just don't see how that could make sense. The pandemic's demonstrated that we can't place our confidence in powers that are a long way away from us - and this point has been made already, and this has engendered very strong feelings, I think. Because of the objections of local people in terms of the transfer of power that's going to happen, I would say that it's more important for us not to follow a Westminster map, which continues to make us reliant on the crumbs from someone else's table, rather than linking communities and delivering the potential of our own nation. I would close, Deputy Llywydd, by saying that I am hopeful that these regulations will be removed as quickly as they come into force, as the Welsh Government would replace them immediately and look to raise the nation, rather than further divide it.
Welsh: Bydd Plaid Cymru'n pleidleisio yn erbyn y prif reoliadau i sefydlu'r cydbwyllgorau corfforedig heddiw. Byddwn ni'n galw ar bob Aelod i wneud yr un peth. Mae Plaid Cymru yn credu y dylai llywodraethiant Cymru i'r dyfodol barhau i gynnwys haenau lleol, rhanbarthol a chenedlaethol, ac yn cytuno bod angen y strwythurau cywir mewn lle i gefnogi gwneud penderfyniadau effeithiol ar y lefel iawn a chyda atebolrwydd democrataidd clir i'r bobl y mae'r strwythurau yn eu gwasanaethu. Mae angen i unrhyw newid ddigwydd fel rhan o weledigaeth glir ar gyfer llywodraethiant Cymru yn ei chyfanrwydd er mwyn cyflawni egwyddorion penodol, ac yn anffodus, dwi ddim yn meddwl bod hwnna yn wir fan hyn - egwyddorion fel trawsnewid gwasanaethau cyhoeddus, codi'r genedl, cysylltu holl gymunedau Cymru, sicrhau y budd mwyaf o arian trethdalwyr ac osgoi dyblygu strwythurau. Yn anffodus, dim cynllun ar gyfer y tymor hir sydd yma ond ymgais annerbyniol, buaswn i'n dweud, i ruthro newid pellgyrhaeddol drwy'r Senedd gydag wythnos i fynd o'n mandad fel Aelodau etholedig yng nghanol pandemig, heb unrhyw weledigaeth nac egwyddorion clir o unrhyw werth yn sail i'r newidiadau yma. Yn amlwg, oherwydd COVID, mae'r holl broses wedi digwydd yn frysiog. Daeth y ddeddfwriaeth gynradd sy'n galluogi cyflwyno'r cydbwyllgorau corfforedig i rym ym mis Ionawr tra roedd mwyafrif y cyrff sy'n cyflawni'r gwasanaethau cyhoeddus a fydd yn cael eu heffeithio gan hyn yn brwydro ton waethaf eto y pandemig. Mae'r ymgynghori annigonol, buaswn i'n dweud, sydd wedi digwydd, wedi ennyn ymateb chwyrn gan awdurdodau lleol, a hefyd cymdeithas sifig, fel sydd wedi cael ei osod mas, i gyd yn poeni am effaith y newidiadau annemocrataidd. Mae disgwyl i'r rheoliadau ddod i rym - os ydyn nhw'n cael eu pasio heddiw gan y Senedd - ar 1 Ebrill pan na fydd y Senedd yma'n eistedd rhagor. Pwrpas etholiadau yw gadael i bobl benderfynu, felly, yn amlwg, buaswn i'n dweud mai'r peth priodol i'w wneud byddai gadael i'r pleidiau i roi eu gweledigaeth ar gyfer llywodraethiant Cymru o flaen pobl Cymru fel y gall y bobl benderfynu os ydyn nhw'n cytuno. Mae cydweithio rhanbarthol gwirfoddol, wrth gwrs, yn rhywbeth really pwysig, ac mae'n digwydd ers nifer o flynyddoedd yng Nghymru, i wahanol raddau o lwyddiant, ond mae'r newid sy'n cael ei gynnig yma yn syfrdanol, fel rydyn ni wedi clywed eto. Mae'n bellgyrhaeddol; mae'n creu endidau newydd fydd yn gallu cyflogi staff, fel mae Laura Jones wedi'i osod mas, gan gynnwys prif weithredwyr, uwch staff, caffael, adeiladau, adnoddau, a byddai'n golygu newid mawr yn nhirlun llywodraethiant Cymru. Ond nid yn unig ar sail diffygion y broses ac absenoldeb gweledigaeth i'r peth y byddwn ni'n gwrthwynebu, ond ar sail y sylwedd hefyd, oherwydd mae'n gynllun sydd yn amlwg fydd yn gostus iawn. Buaswn i'n dweud byddai fe'n wastraff o'r arian yna, yn ogystal â'r problemau o ran diffyg democratiaeth. Yn y gogledd, er enghraifft, mae'r Gweinidog wedi cadarnhau bydd yna ddau strwythur rhanbarthol cyfochrog ar gyfer cyfrifoldebau datblygu economaidd y bwrdd uchelgais sydd yn endid ar staff a chynllun strategol, ac sydd wedi'i sefydlu gan y city deals Prydeinig a'r cydbwyllgor corfforedig. Dwi jest ddim yn gweld sut byddai hwnna yn gallu gwneud synnwyr. Mae'r pandemig wedi dangos na allwn ni roi ein ffydd mewn grymoedd pell i ffwrdd - a dwi'n gwybod bod y pwynt yma wedi cael ei wneud yn barod, ac mae hyn wedi ennyn teimladau cryf iawn, dwi'n meddwl. Oherwydd gwrthwynebiadau pobl leol o ran y trosglwyddo pwerau sydd yn mynd i ddigwydd, buaswn i'n dweud ei bod hi'n bwysicach i ni beidio â dilyn map San Steffan, sydd yn parhau i'n gwneud ni'n ddibynnol ar friwsion oddi ar fwrdd rhywun arall, yn hytrach na chysylltu cymunedau a gwireddu potensial ein gwlad ni'n hunain. Buaswn i'n cau, Dirprwy Lywydd, drwy ddweud fy mod i'n obeithiol y bydd y rheoliadau yma'n dod i ben mor gyflym â'u bod nhw wedi dod i rym, gan y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn eu disodli ar unwaith ac yn edrych i godi'r genedl yng nghysgod y pandemig, nid ei rannu ymhellach.