English: Thank you very much, Chair. Can I congratulate you in the first instance on the three very special papers - they were excellent - that you submitted beforehand, in which you set out your arguments in a brilliant way and in a way easy for a simple physician like me to understand? So, thank you very much, and thank you for your presentations this morning. Of course, from the side of Plaid Cymru, we have concerns about the whole Brexit process, especially the perception that the whole process of leaving Europe could be a way of undermining devolution completely, be that intentionally or unintentionally. We strongly believe that Brexit shouldn't be used as a way to undermine devolution. People are always talking about the need to respect the results of referenda, but we've had two referenda here in Wales, with the last one, in 2011, showing that the people of Wales wanted to see more powers coming to this place, rather than a loss of powers. Rather than fewer powers, the people of Wales want to see more powers, but the danger now is that that's what will happen. Because, we've seen, with this latest compromise over clause 11 of the EU withdrawal Bill, the agreement between the Welsh Government and Westminster, where the Scottish Government haven't agreed but the Government here have agreed. That means that the powers in devolved areas such as the environment, agriculture, et cetera, essentially will be frozen now for seven years, and, essentially, there will be no real need for real consent from this place regarding what's going to happen in those areas. That is, Michael Gove, at the end of the day, has the power, and we could agree or disagree here, but he is going to continue either way. This committee, last week, last Wednesday, we were up in Westminster and we met Michael Gove. We had this discussion about this new environmental body. Of course, things are moving, but I'd like to see things moving quicker than they are. So, fundamentally, there are three things to think about, at present. Do you agree or do you see that there are individual Welsh concerns in this whole process? Because devolution, clause 11, the withdrawal Bill et cetera are things that aren't often discussed on a British level. But the clause that withdraws powers from this place is very important to some of us in this place, regarding issues that are already devolved. The second point is what Victoria has already mentioned, in that we have a future generations commissioner here in Wales, and a piece of legislation that is also unique. We don't want to see that commissioner and the brilliant work that she's doing, now and in the future, being undermined in any discussions regarding environmental issues in the future, or to be seen as something that's on the side because it's more important to have agreement on a British level and forget about the concerns of Wales at the end of the day. And the third point, as the Chair was discussing at the beginning, is that the UK was a very different place in 1973. Well, yes, it was. There was no devolution and we had hardly any environmental standards. You were able to swim in the sea with all sorts of pollution in the sea. We don't want to go back to that. Some of the very strong arguments from the Brexit side was this business about red tape - in that there was too much regulation - and the expectation from some that there would be fewer environmental restrictions. That is the concern for some of us. So, as well as what Maria said, there is room to be looking constructively, and not just say that everything is perfect with Europe, but also the ability to create standards and completely new matters. It can be a challenge for us to develop new things, but what would some of us would not like to see is that we would lose the standards that we already have. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Cadeirydd. A allaf i eich llongyfarch chi yn y lle cyntaf ar y tri phapur arbennig, bendigedig, yr ydych chi wedi eu cyflwyno ymlaen llaw, sydd yn gosod y dadleuon mewn ffordd arbennig sy'n hawdd i ffisigwr syml fel fi i'w deall nhw? Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi ymlaen llaw, a hefyd am eich cyflwyniadau'r bore yma. Wrth gwrs, o ochr Plaid Cymru, mae gyda ni bryderon ynghylch yr holl broses Brexit yma, yn benodol y canfyddiad y gallai'r holl broses yma o adael Ewrop fod yn fodd i danseilio datganoli yn gyfan gwbl, boed hynny'n fwriadol neu'n anfwriadol. Rydym ni'n credu'n gryf na ddylid gallu defnyddio gadael Ewrop fel modd i danseilio datganoli. Mae pobl wastad yn sôn am yr angen i barchu canlyniadau refferenda, ond, wrth gwrs, rydym ni wedi cael dau refferendwm hefyd yma yng Nghymru, ac, yn yr un ddiwethaf yn 2011, roedd pobl Cymru eisiau gweld mwy o bwerau yn dod i'r lle yma, nid colli pwerau. Nid llai o bwerau, mae pobl Cymru eisiau gweld mwy o bwerau, ond dyna beth sy'n berig o ddigwydd rŵan. Achos, rydym ni wedi gweld, efo'r cyfaddawd diweddaraf yma dros gymal 11 o Fil ymadael Cymru, y cytundeb rhwng Llywodraeth Cymru a San Steffan, lle mae Llywodraeth yr Alban heb gytuno ond mae'r Llywodraeth yn fan hyn wedi cytuno. Mae hynny'n golygu bod pwerau mewn meysydd sydd wedi'u datganoli, megis yr amgylchedd, amaeth ac ati, yn y bôn maen nhw'n mynd i gael eu rhewi nawr am saith mlynedd ac, yn y bôn hefyd, fydd ddim gwir angen gwir gydsyniad o fan hyn ynglŷn â beth sy'n mynd i ddigwydd yn y meysydd hynny. Hynny yw, Michael Gove, ar ddiwedd y dydd, sydd efo'r pŵer, ac mi allem ni gytuno neu anghytuno yn fan hyn, ond mae fe'n mynd i gario ymlaen ta beth. Nawr, buodd y pwyllgor yma, yr wythnos diwethaf, ddydd Mercher diwethaf, i fyny yn San Steffan ac yn cyfarfod efo Michael Gove. Cawsom ni'r drafodaeth yma ynglŷn â'r corff amgylcheddol newydd yma. Wrth gwrs, mae pethau yn symud, ond fe fuaswn i'n licio gweld pethau'n symud yn gyflymach nac y maen nhw. Felly, yn y bôn, mae yna dri pheth i fyfyrio arnyn nhw, rwy'n credu, ar hyn o bryd. Hynny yw, a ydych chi'n cydnabod neu'n gallu gweld y pryderon unigryw, Cymreig o'r holl broses yma? Achos mae datganoli, cymal 11, y Bil ymadael ac ati, yn bethau sydd ddim yn cael eu crybwyll yn aml ar raddfa Brydeinig. Ond mae'r cymal yna sydd yn tueddu i dynnu pwerau nôl o'r lle yma yn bwysig iawn i rai ohonom ni yn y lle yma, mewn materion sydd eisoes wedi eu datganoli. Yr ail bwynt ydy beth mae Victoria eisoes wedi crybwyll, ynglŷn â'r ffaith bod gyda ni gomisiynydd cenedlaethau'r dyfodol yma yng Nghymru, a Deddf sydd yn unigryw hefyd. Nid ydym ni eisiau gweld y comisiynydd yna na'r gwaith clodwiw y mae hi'n ei wneud, nawr ac i'r dyfodol, yn cael ei danseilio mewn unrhyw drafodaethau ynglŷn â materion amgylcheddol i'r dyfodol, na'n cael ei gwneud yn rhywbeth sy'n rhaid bod ar yr ochr achos mae'n bwysicach i gael cytundeb ar raddfa Brydeinig ac anghofio am bryderon Cymru fach ar ddiwedd y dydd. A'r trydydd pwynt ydy - roedd y Cadeirydd yn sôn i ddechrau fod y Deyrnas Gyfunol yn lle gwahanol iawn yn 1973. Wel, oedd, mi oedd e. Nid oedd datganoli a hefyd nid oedd gyda ni fawr ddim safonau amgylcheddol. Roedd hi'n dal yn bosibl gallu nofio yn y môr, a phob math o fudreddi hefyd yn y môr. Nawr, nid ydym ni eisiau gweld mynd nôl at hynny. Rhai o'r dadleuon cryf o ochr Brexit oedd yr holl fusnes yma am dâp coch, red tape - hynny yw, gormod o reoleiddio - a disgwyl o rai ochrau y byddai yna lai o gyfyngderau amgylcheddol. Dyna ydy pryderon rhai ohonom ni. Felly, yn ogystal â beth a ddywedodd Maria, mae yna le i fod yn edrych yn adeiladol, a ddim jest dweud bod pob dim yn berffaith efo Ewrop, ond y gallu i greu safonau a materion cyfan gwbl newydd. Hynny yw, mae'n gallu bod yn her i ni i ddatblygu pethau newydd, ond beth fuasai rhai ohonom ni ddim eisiau gweld ydy ein bod ni'n colli'r safonau sydd gyda ni eisoes. Diolch yn fawr.