English: Darren, what the Conservatives fail here is that this not an issue. It has not been an issue with elections in England and Wales in the same way as it was in Northern Ireland in the 1983 general election. We don't have compulsory IDs in this country as they do in Europe. Do you want that, Darren Millar? Do you want the civil liberties of people being taken away, that they need compulsory IDs wherever they go? And the cost of it - £20 million per general election will be the cost of this ID. It's not needed. It's another expensive waste of time by the Conservative Government. They say, don't they - . Well, I'll mention the pilot first, the pilot in 2019. Of the 2,000 people in the pilot who turned up to vote - . Sorry, 2,000 people were turned away from the polling stations because they didn't have the necessary ID. Of those 2,000 people, nearly 40 per cent did not return. That was the Westminster Government pilot. And that doesn't even take into account that people didn't turn up in the first place because they didn't have the necessary ID. They say, don't they, you can't put a price on democracy, but, because of your actions, the Westminster Government's actions, we'll soon know what the cost of democracy is - £34, the cost of a first-time driver's licence, or £75.50, the privilege of a passport. In Wales, people are again heading into a difficult winter, facing terrible uncertainty - sky-high energy and fuel prices, cuts to universal credit, higher taxes, rising inflation. One doesn't have to think for too long where the cost of voter ID will come when people are struggling to heat their homes and feed their families. [ Interruption.] You say it's free; now, we have no detail about these free voting IDs. They say that councils will need to do the process - councils who are already struggling at the moment. Give us the details of this free voter ID. You haven't done it. And, as I said, it's not free - it's going to cost £20 million per general election. And who pays for that? The taxpayers. There are better ways to spend the money. I'll go to my questions now, Counsel General, but Boris Johnson's Government really need to tackle the real issues in our politics: cleaning up political funding, bringing in the 9 million people already not included on the electoral roll and, crucially, reforming Westminster, both the House of Commons and the Lords.
Welsh: Darren, lle mae'r Ceidwadwyr yn methu yma yw'r ffaith nad yw hyn yn broblem. Nid yw wedi bod yn broblem gydag etholiadau yng Nghymru a Lloegr yn yr un modd ag yr oedd yng Ngogledd Iwerddon yn etholiad cyffredinol 1983. Nid oes gennym gardiau adnabod gorfodol yn y wlad hon fel sydd yn Ewrop. A ydych chi eisiau hynny, Darren Millar? A ydych chi eisiau i hawliau sifil pobl gael eu tynnu oddi arnyn nhw, bod angen cardiau adnabod gorfodol arnyn nhw, lle bynnag y maen nhw'n mynd? A'r gost - £20 miliwn fesul etholiad cyffredinol fydd cost y cardiau adnabod hyn. Nid oes eu hangen. Mae'n wastraff amser drud arall gan y Llywodraeth Geidwadol. Maen nhw'n dweud, onid ydyn nhw - . Wel, fe soniaf am y cynllun treialu yn gyntaf, y cynllun treialu yn 2019. O'r 2,000 o bobl yn y cynllun treialu a ddaeth i bleidleisio - . Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, cafodd 2,000 o bobl eu troi i ffwrdd o'r gorsafoedd pleidleisio am nad oedd ganddyn nhw y cardiau adnabod angenrheidiol. O'r 2,000 o bobl hynny, ni ddychwelodd bron i 40 y cant. Dyna oedd cynllun treialu Llywodraeth San Steffan. Ac nid yw hynny hyd yn oed yn ystyried nad oedd pobl yn cyrraedd yn y lle cyntaf am nad oedd ganddyn nhw'r cardiau adnabod angenrheidiol. Maen nhw'n dweud, onid ydyn nhw, ni allwch roi pris ar ddemocratiaeth, ond, oherwydd eich gweithredoedd chi, gweithredoedd Llywodraeth San Steffan, byddwn ni'n gwybod yn fuan beth yw cost democratiaeth - £34, cost trwydded gyntaf gyrrwr, neu £75.50 am y fraint o gael pasbort. Yng Nghymru, mae pobl unwaith eto'n wynebu gaeaf anodd, gan wynebu ansicrwydd ofnadwy - prisiau ynni a thanwydd uchel, toriadau i gredyd cynhwysol, trethi uwch, chwyddiant cynyddol. Does dim rhaid ystyried yn rhy hir beth fydd cost cerdyn adnabod pleidleiswyr pan fydd pobl yn ei chael hi'n anodd gwresogi eu cartrefi a bwydo eu teuluoedd. [ Torri ar draws.] Rydych chi'n dweud ei fod am ddim; nawr, nid oes gennym ni unrhyw fanylion am y cardiau adnabod pleidleiswyr am ddim hyn. Maen nhw'n dweud y bydd angen i gynghorau ymdrin â'r broses - cynghorau sydd eisoes yn ei chael hi'n anodd ar hyn o bryd. Rhowch fanylion y cerdyn adnabod pleidleiswyr di-dâl hwn i ni. Nid ydych chi wedi gwneud hynny. Ac, fel y dywedais i, nid yw'n rhad ac am ddim - mae'n mynd i gostio £20 miliwn fesul etholiad cyffredinol. A phwy sy'n talu am hynny? Y trethdalwyr. Mae ffyrdd gwell o wario'r arian. Fe af at fy nghwestiynau nawr, Cwnsler Cyffredinol, ond mae gwir angen i Lywodraeth Boris Johnson fynd i'r afael â'r materion gwirioneddol yn ein gwleidyddiaeth: rhoi trefn ar gyllid gwleidyddol, dod â'r 9 miliwn o bobl nad ydyn nhw ar hyn o bryd wedi'u cynnwys ar y gofrestr etholiadol ac, yn hollbwysig, diwygio San Steffan, Tŷ'r Cyffredin a'r Arglwyddi.