English: Minister, I hope your last point is true, because, as you say, it becomes a separate commercial entity and they will look for the cheapest deal they can get, not necessarily the best deal they can get. Therefore, clearly, the implications for Port Talbot are serious and our concerns are for Port Talbot, but also for the workers in Trostre, because it's a package - it's a whole package across Wales - Tata in Shotton, Port Talbot, Llanwern and in Trostre. It works together as a package. We've raised this many times, and I've raised with you many times the concerns that a joint venture could have. In 2016, we came out of the woods, but we hadn't cleared ourselves from the global challenges yet, and this is another one. I do worry about this, because it's not just Trostre being mentioned; Tata are also divesting themselves of Cogent - the Orb works in Newport. It seems that Tata are divesting themselves of resources more than ThyssenKrupp in this joint-venture approach. So, what discussions are you going to have with Tata? You mentioned Hans Fischer, but perhaps we need to go above Hans Fischer to see where we actually have Tata's future in this place. Because I'm deeply concerned that when Bimlendra Jha left his position, there was no UK representation, effectively, for Tata in the UK, and particularly in Wales; it's left then, perhaps, to Martin Brunnock to be the senior person here. So, we need to have a look at having discussions with Tata in India, perhaps, to discuss what their future plans are for the industry in Wales as a whole, because this comes as a package. Also, have you had discussions at all with the Commission? Because this is down to the Commission rules and looking at this whole approach of the joint venture and the monopoly side of things. So, have you had any opportunity to speak to the Commission at all in relation to looking at this project? I fully appreciate the investment that the Welsh Government has given to steel over the last few years. It's been very beneficial. It's actually been one of the reasons we still have a steel industry here in Wales. But it is important to keep that industry, and that we pressurise Tata to actually ensure that all its commitments to Welsh steel continue, and that if it is going to sell - I got from your answer to Helen Mary Jones that it is going to sell Trostre, it seems, or that's the impression I got from your answer - we need to ensure that contracts that are in place with Port Talbot stay in place with Port Talbot, so they don't go elsewhere, and so we keep the industry here in Wales.
Welsh: Weinidog, rwy'n gobeithio bod eich pwynt olaf yn wir, oherwydd, fel y dywedwch, mae'n dod yn endid masnachol ar wahân a byddant yn edrych am y fargen rataf y gallant ei chael, nid o reidrwydd y fargen orau y gallant ei chael. Felly, yn amlwg, mae'r goblygiadau ar gyfer Port Talbot yn ddifrifol ac rydym yn pryderu ynglŷn â Phort Talbot, ond hefyd am y gweithwyr yn Nhrostre, oherwydd mae'n becyn - mae'n becyn cyfan ar draws Cymru - Tata yn Shotton, Port Talbot, Llan-wern a Throstre. Mae'n gweithio gyda'i gilydd fel pecyn. Rwyf wedi crybwyll hyn droeon, ac wedi trafod gyda chi sawl gwaith y pryderon y gallai cyd-fenter eu hachosi. Yn 2016, daethom allan o berygl, ond nid oeddem wedi goresgyn yr heriau byd-eang eto, ac mae hon yn un arall. Rwy'n poeni am hyn, oherwydd nid Trostre'n unig sy'n cael eu crybwyll; mae Tata'n cael gwared ar Cogent hefyd - gwaith Orb yng Nghasnewydd. Mae'n ymddangos bod Tata yn cael gwared ar adnoddau yn fwy nag y mae ThyssenKrupp yn ei wneud yn y gyd-fenter hon. Felly, pa drafodaethau y bwriadwch eu cael gyda Tata? Soniasoch am Hans Fischer, ond efallai fod angen inni fynd uwchben Hans Fischer i weld lle mae dyfodol Tata yn y lle hwn. Oherwydd rwy'n bryderus iawn na châi Tata ei gynrychioli yn y DU i bob pwrpas pan adawodd Bimlendra Jha ei swydd, yn enwedig yng Nghymru; cafodd ei adael wedyn i Martin Brunnock, efallai, i fod yn brif berson yma. Felly, mae angen inni edrych ar gael trafodaethau gyda Tata yn India, o bosibl, i drafod beth yw eu cynlluniau yn y dyfodol ar gyfer y diwydiant yng Nghymru yn ei chyfanrwydd, gan fod hyn yn dod fel pecyn. Hefyd, a ydych wedi cael trafodaethau o gwbl gyda'r Comisiwn? Oherwydd mae hyn yn dibynnu ar reolau'r Comisiwn ac edrych ar ddull y gyd-fenter yn ei gyfanrwydd a'r ochr fonopoli i bethau. Felly, a ydych wedi cael unrhyw gyfle i siarad â'r Comisiwn o gwbl o ran edrych ar y prosiect hwn? Rwy'n llawn sylweddoli faint o fuddsoddiad y mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi'i wneud mewn dur dros y blynyddoedd diwethaf. Mae wedi bod yn fuddiol iawn. Mewn gwirionedd dyna oedd un o'r rhesymau pam fod gennym ddiwydiant dur yma yng Nghymru o hyd. Ond mae'n bwysig cadw'r diwydiant hwnnw, a'n bod yn pwyso ar Tata i sicrhau bod eu holl ymrwymiadau i ddur Cymru'n parhau, ac os yw'n mynd i werthu - roeddwn yn casglu o'ch ateb i Helen Mary Jones ei fod yn mynd i werthu Trostre, mae'n ymddangos, neu dyna'r argraff a gefais o'ch ateb - fod angen inni sicrhau bod contractau sydd ar waith gyda Phort Talbot yn aros gyda Phort Talbot, fel nad ydynt yn mynd i rywle arall, ac felly ein bod yn cadw'r diwydiant yma yng Nghymru.