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English: Do you want me to start, Gethin? I think I'll start with examples, as you said, that are specific. When we were involved with the Wylfa Newydd process, and when we were involved specifically with the building of another line of pylons across the island, we had a lot of involvement with the commissioner's office and a lot of support, naturally, through the lawyers that were there, and we had support to undertake a workshop with stakeholders and National Grid when we were talking about how the Act could be embedded in decisions in the context of constructing another line of pylons. We had a lot of practical support at that time. It does depend, I would have thought, on the subject. I've started with those two examples as I was involved personally. Gethin.
Welsh: Wyt ti eisiau i fi ddechrau, Gethin? Dwi'n meddwl y gwnaf i ddechrau efo enghreifftiau, fel rydych chi'n dweud, penodol. Pan oedden ni'n ymwneud â phroses Wylfa Newydd, a phan oedden ni'n ymwneud yn benodol gydag adeiladu llinell arall o beilonau ar draws yr ynys, mi gawsom ni lot o ymwneud efo swyddfa'r comisiynydd ac mi gawsom ni lot o gefnogaeth, yn naturiol, drwy'r twrneiod oedd yna, ac mi gawsom ni gymorth, yn wir, i gynnal gweithdy gyda rhanddeiliad a chwmni'r National Grid pan oedden ni'n sôn am sut oedd gwreiddio'r Ddeddf mewn penderfyniadau pan yn ymwneud ag adeiladu llinell arall o beilonau. Mi gawsom ni lot o gymorth ymarferol ar yr adeg hynny, felly. Mae'n dibynnu, mae'n siŵr, ar y pwnc. Dwi wedi dechrau efo dwy enghraifft yn fanna am fy mod i'n bersonol wedi bod yn ymwneud â'r ddau fater yna, wrth reswm. Gethin.
English: Thank you, Annwen. Yes, I think that the support that we've had from the office has been very useful, because they have been willing - at the time, when this was happening - to travel up to north Wales to give us presentations and additional support as regards how to embed different elements or the tools that they'd established within the office. I think that that's seen as a very supportive way of working by all the authorities in north Wales. The one thing that we've been able to offer in retrun, in terms of constructive feedback, is that we need to think more carefully about the timing of the office's help and support, and the expectations, given that such a complex body as a local authority has other statutory responsibilities. I think that there was some expectation some years ago for us to be reporting back, or giving feedback, on our own self-assessments, at a time when the budget was being put in place and we were planning for the next year, and so forth. But, without doubt, the support that we've had has been seen as being very useful on the whole.
Welsh: Diolch, Annwen. Ie, dwi'n meddwl bod y cymorth a'r gefnogaeth rydym ni wedi eu cael gan y swyddfa wedi bod yn ddefnyddiol, achos maen nhw wedi bod yn barod - ar y pryd, pan oedd hyn yn digwydd - i deithio i fyny i'r gogledd i roi cyflwyniadau i ni a rhoi cymorth ychwanegol ar sut i wreiddio gwahanol elfennau neu'r tŵls yna roedden nhw wedi eu sefydlu o fewn y swyddfa. Mae hynny, dwi'n meddwl, wedi cael ei weld yn rhywbeth cefnogol iawn gan yr holl awdurdodau yng ngogledd Cymru. Yr un peth dwi'n meddwl rydym ni wedi medru ei gynnig yn ôl fel adborth adeiladol, dwi'n gobeithio, ydy bod angen meddwl yn ddwysach, weithiau, ar ba bryd mae'r cymorth a'r gefnogaeth, a'r disgwyliadau mae'n siŵr, sydd gan y swyddfa yn digwydd, o gofio bod gan gorff mor gymhleth ag awdurdod lleol ddisgwyliadau statudol eraill. Dwi'n meddwl roedd yna ddisgwyliad ychydig o flynyddoedd yn ôl inni fod yn adrodd yn ôl, neu'n rhoi adborth, ar ein hunanasesiadau ein hunain, mewn cyfnod pan oedd y gyllideb yn cael ei rhoi mewn lle ac roeddem yn cynllunio ar gyfer y flwyddyn wedyn, ac yn y blaen. Ond, heb os, mae'r gefnogaeth dŷn ni wedi'i chael wedi cael ei gweld yn ddefnyddiol iawn ar y cyfan.
English: It has varied, of course, last year, because of the pandemic, but I think what's important now is ensuring that where we go in the future is constructive, and what the next steps are in terms of our partnership. As far as I'm concerned personally, as someone who works across the council with Alun to try and embed the Act and ensure that every member of staff understands what the Act means for them, I think what I would hope to get out of that support from the commissioner's office over the period to come is how to transpose the future generations report into smaller pieces of information that can be of benefit to the people working in their different departments across the council. We have a very constructive relationship with members of staff who work for the commissioner. And, like Ynys Môn, we've had experiences of working closely with the commissioner in the past, where we were a core part of developing the framework for scrutiny, for members, and we did a lot of work with the members and held workshops in order to feed into that framework. So, I would just echo the fact that we do see it as a constructive relationship. Thank you.
Welsh: Dim ond cytuno, a dweud y gwir. Mae wedi amrywio, y llynedd, wrth gwrs, oherwydd y pandemig, ond rwy'n credu mai beth sy'n bwysig nawr yw gwneud yn siŵr bod lle rŷn ni'n mynd yn y dyfodol yn mynd i fod yn adeiladol a beth yw'r camau nesaf o ran ein partneriaeth. Mor belled ag yr ydw i yn y cwestiwn, ac yn bersonol fel rhywun sy'n gweithio ar draws y cyngor gydag Alun i drio treiddio'r Ddeddf, fel bod pob aelod o staff yn sylweddoli beth mae'r Ddeddf yn ei olygu iddyn nhw, rwy'n credu mai beth fyddwn i'n gobeithio ei gael allan o'r gefnogaeth yna o swyddfa'r comisiynydd dros y cyfnod sydd i ddod yw sut i gyfieithu'r future generations report i mewn i ddarnau bach o wybodaeth sy'n mynd i fod o fudd i'r bobl sy'n gweithio yn eu hadrannau gwahanol ar draws y cyngor. Mae gyda ni berthynas adeiladol iawn gydag aelodau o staff sy'n gweithio i'r comisiynydd. Ac rŷn ni hefyd, yn debyg i Ynys Môn, wedi cael profiadau o weithio'n agos gyda'r comisiynydd yn y gorffennol, lle'r oeddem yn rhan greiddiol o ddatblygu'r fframwaith ar gyfer aelodau ar gyfer craffu. Fe wnaethom ni dipyn o waith gyda'n haelodau ni a thipyn o weithdai er mwyn bwydo i mewn i'r fframwaith hwnnw. Felly, byddwn i'n ategu ein bod ni'n ei gweld yn berthynas adeiladol. Diolch.
English: Should I start? Okay, I'll start and Gethin can come in, perhaps. I think the barriers will be trying to understand the impact of COVID on all our communities and the impact of Brexit. I think that's very important. And I think that, for the future, having a representative of the commissioner's office, rather than them being in Cardiff, in every region so that we can have even easier access to each member of the commissioner's office - . If they were present in every region, if not in every county should they have enough staff, would be very welcome. That's the headline issue that I wanted to raise. Gethin.
Welsh: Dŷch chi eisiau i fi gychwyn? Ocê, so gwnaf i gychwyn a chaiff Gethin ddod i mewn. Dwi'n meddwl y barriers, rŵan, fydd trio deall effaith COVID ar ein holl gymunedau ni ac effaith Brexit. Mae hynny'n bwysig iawn. A dwi'n meddwl y byddai, ar gyfer y dyfodol, cael cynrychiolydd o swyddfa'r comisiynydd, yn hytrach na'u bod nhw yng Nghaerdydd, ym mhob un rhanbarth fel ein bod ni'n gallu cael mynediad hyd yn oed yn haws, at bob un aelod o swyddfa'r comisiynydd - . Buasai eu presenoldeb nhw ym mhob rhanbarth, os nad ym mhob sir os oes ganddyn nhw ddigon o staff, yn dra derbyniol gennym ni. Dyna ydy'r headline mawr gennyf i. Gethin.
English: I would agree with Annwen. I think what we want to see, perhaps to a greater degree, is that we can see a national organisation, such as the commissioner's office, being able to help us as bodies that, basically, have adopted a mindset of ongoing improvement or continuous improvement, to be able to borrow different ideas from different organisations across the sector in Wales. And I think that there is a vital role there for the commissioner's office to be able to help us realise the expectations of the Act, and then meet their expectations of the Act as well.
Welsh: Buaswn i'n cytuno efo Annwen. Dwi'n meddwl mai'r hyn dŷn ni eisiau ei weld, efallai'n fwy, ydy ein bod ni'n medru gweld sefydliad cenedlaethol, fel swyddfa'r comisiynydd, yn medru ein helpu ni fel cyrff sydd, yn eu hanfod, wedi mabwysiadu'r mindset yna o fod efo gwelliant parhaus, i fedru dwyn - benthyg - syniadau gwahanol gan gyrff gwahanol ar draws y sector yng Nghymru. A dwi'n meddwl bod yna rôl hanfodol yn fanna i swyddfa'r comisiynydd fedru'n helpu ni er mwyn gwireddu disgwyliadau'r Ddeddf ac, o ganlyniad, diwallu eu disgwyliadau nhw o'r Ddeddf hefyd.
English: Before we move on to Ceredigion, I think one place where we do need a discussion is between the UK Government and the Welsh Government to have a better understanding in England of the importance and the status of the Act in Wales. I won't expand here, but we hear from developers from England that, 'The Act is not relevant to us', but I say, 'Well, you're in Wales, you're in Anglesey; the Act is relevant to us.' I think that's something that we need to tackle. Thank you.
Welsh: Cyn inni symud at Geredigion, dwi'n meddwl mai un lle sydd angen trafodaeth yn blaen ydy rhwng Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Unedig a Llywodraeth Cymru i gael gwell dealltwriaeth o Loegr o bwysigrwydd a statws y Ddeddf yng Nghymru. Wnaf i ddim mynd i ymhelaethu fan hyn rŵan, ond pan oeddwn i'n cael pobl yn dweud, 'Ond rydym ni'n ddatblygwyr o Loegr, dyw'r Ddeddf ddim yn berthnasol i ni, felly', 'Ond rydych chi yng Nghymru' meddaf i. 'Rydych chi yn Sir Fôn; mae'r Ddeddf yn berthnasol i ni.' Dwi'n meddwl bod hynny yn rhywbeth y bydd yn rhaid ei thaclo ar ei phen. Diolch yn fawr.
English: I would echo that point. In terms of the barriers, one of the things that the commissioner would perhaps say is that perhaps how she is funded isn't adequate in terms of resources for them. I think that what Annwen said about having people in every part of the country is that it would cost her more to do that, and that's the balance that she needs to examine. So, I agree with what Annwen says about other national agencies in the UK not perhaps understanding the importance of the Act, and that is a barrier for her, I would say, yes.
Welsh: Byddwn i'n ategu'r pwynt yna, rwy'n credu. O ran barriers, rwy'n credu un o'r pethau efallai byddai'r comisiynydd yn ei ddweud yw efallai dyw fel mae hi'n cael ei hariannu ddim yn ddigonol, o ran adnoddau iddyn nhw. Rwy'n credu mai beth roedd Annwen yn ei ddweud amboutu cael pobl ym mhob cwr o'r wlad oedd y byddai'n costio'n fwy iddi wneud hynny, a dyna'r balans mae'n rhaid iddi hi edrych arno fe hefyd. So, rwy'n cytuno yn gywir gyda beth roedd Annwen yn ei ddweud ynglŷn ag asiantaethau eraill cenedlaethol UK efallai ddim yn sylweddoli pwysigrwydd y Ddeddf, ac mae hwnna'n barrier iddi hi, byddwn i'n ei ddweud. Definite.
English: Just to echo that, I think, the way in which the Act is structured, the commissioner's role is one part of the jigsaw. And to get the Act to succeed, the individual bodies and the commissioner and the auditor general and the Welsh Government - we all need to take a step up to ensure that this is an Act that does make a difference, the difference that it was designed for. I don't think that we can just look at one part of the Act without looking at it as a whole and the opportunity that that gives us as a nation.
Welsh: Jest i ategu, rwy'n credu, fel mae'r Ddeddf wedi'i strwythuro, mae rôl y comisiynydd yn un rhan o'r jig-so; i gael y Ddeddf i lwyddo, mae eisiau i'r cyrff unigol, y comisiynydd, yr archwilydd cyffredinol a Llywodraeth Cymru - mae eisiau i ni i gyd, efallai, i gymryd cam lan er mwyn gwneud yn siŵr bod hon yn Ddeddf sydd yn gwneud gwahaniaeth, y gwahaniaeth mae hi wedi cael ei deddfu ar ei gyfer. Felly, dwi ddim yn credu ein bod ni yn gallu edrych ar un rhan o'r Ddeddf heb edrych arni yn ei chyfanrwydd a'r cyfle mae hwnna'n ei roi i ni fel cenedl, rili.
English: Well, I think that I'm once again going to echo - . Naturally, I think all of our roles will change in the future - the leader of any public body - and I think the role of the Welsh Government will change in the future as well. So, it's not just the commissioner, but everyone. The role of the commissioner, yes, is having a greater presence, I would say, in specific areas in Wales, certainly, and, in the post-pandemic period, to come back and relaunch and be more visible, as she was initially, and the office as well. But, as Alun says, they've been quite quiet, but we understand why, during this period. Thank you. I don't know if Alun wants to add anything.
Welsh: Wel, dwi'n meddwl fy mod i'n mynd i ategu eto - . Yn naturiol, dwi'n meddwl bydd rôl pob un ohonom ni yn newid i'r dyfodol - yn arweinydd unrhyw gorff cyhoeddus - a dwi'n meddwl bydd rôl Llywodraeth Cymru yn newid i'r dyfodol. Felly, dim jest y comisiynydd - pawb, dwi'n meddwl. Rôl y comisiynydd ydy cael mwy o bresenoldeb, buaswn i'n ei ddweud, mewn ardaloedd penodol yng Nghymru, yn sicr, ac, ar ôl y cyfnod pandemig yma rŵan, dod yn ôl, os liciwch chi, i ail-lansio a bod yn fwy gweladwy, fel ag yr oedd hi i gychwyn, a'r swyddfa i gyd. Ond, fel dywedodd Alun, mae wedi mynd dipyn bach yn dawel, yn naturiol, ac mae rhywun yn deall pam, yn ystod y cyfnod hwn. Diolch. Alun, wyt ti eisiau dweud rhywbeth?
English: Yes, we agree. Over the last year, with Brexit and COVID, we've been making more here and now decisions on a daily basis. And that side, in terms of looking forward, isn't quite as prominent as it was and should be under this Act. And getting that back as part of everyone's mindset is going to be a challenge, but something that I would be supportive of in terms of what the commissioner should do, and I would support that.
Welsh: Ie, cytuno. Yn amlwg, dros y flwyddyn ddiwethaf, gyda Brexit a phethau eraill, mae llawer fwy o here and now decisions yn ddyddiol. Ond dyw'r ochr yna, o edrych ymlaen, efallai ddim cweit mor flaengar ag oedd e ac y dylai fe fod o dan yr Act. Mae ategu yna a chael hwnna yn ôl ym meddylfryd pob un yn mynd i fod yn sialens, ond yn rhywbeth byddwn i'n gefnogol i'r comisiynydd ei wneud, a byddwn i'n ei gefnogi e.
English: Thank you, Chair. I wanted to ask - well, this follows on quite well - about the role of the Welsh Government in this. You mentioned the commissioner and how we need to bring back a different focus, which has, understandably, changed because of the pandemic. Do you want to add anything else in terms of how the policies or the decisions made by the Welsh Government reflect the requirements of the Act? Or, if you don't want to talk about that, I wanted to ask you - this has arisen already - whether there are any inconsistencies in terms of how this Act aligns with other pieces of legislation by the Welsh Government? For example, one example that we've heard about in a number of pieces of evidence is the fact that some pieces of legislation, such as the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 - there is funding allocated to that in a way that it isn't for this Act. So, people think that we need to prioritise the Act that is more associated with specific funding. So, in terms of anything that you want to add, either in terms of how the policies and the decisions of the Government are aligned or are not aligned with the Act, and also in terms of how this Act is aligned with other pieces of legislation. Whoever wants to go first on that.
Welsh: Diolch, Cadeirydd. Roeddwn i eisiau gofyn - wel, mae hwn yn dilyn ymlaen mewn ffordd reit dda - am rôl Llywodraeth Cymru yn hyn i gyd. Roeddech chi jest yn sôn am y comisiynydd ac fel mae angen efallai dod yn ôl â ffocws gwahanol, sydd, yn ddealladwy, wedi newid oherwydd y pandemig. Ydych chi eisiau ychwanegu unrhyw beth arall ynglŷn â fel mae polisïau a phenderfyniadau Llywodraeth Cymru yn adlewyrchu gofynion y Ddeddf? Neu, os nad ydych chi eisiau ategu mwy am hynny, dŷn ni hefyd eisiau gofyn ichi - mae hyn wedi codi ychydig yn barod - os oes yna unrhyw anghysondebau o ran sut mae'r Ddeddf hon yn cyd-fynd â darnau gwahanol o ddeddfwriaeth gan Lywodraeth Cymru. Er enghraifft, un esiampl dŷn ni wedi'i chlywed mewn nifer o ddarnau o dystiolaeth ydy'r ffaith bod gan rai darnau o ddeddfwriaeth, fel Deddf Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol a Llesiant (Cymru) 2014 - . Mae yna arian yn cyd-fynd â honno mewn ffordd dyw e ddim yn cyd-fynd â'r Ddeddf hon. So, mae rhai pobl yn meddwl bod angen blaenoriaethu'r Ddeddf lle mae yna fwy o arian yn gysylltiedig gyda hi. Felly, o ran unrhyw beth rydych chi eisiau ei ychwanegu, naill ai o ran sut mae polisïau a phenderfyniadau'r Llywodraeth yn cyd-fynd, neu ddim yn cyd-fynd, â'r Ddeddf, a hefyd o ran sut mae'r Ddeddf yma yn cyd-fynd neu, fel mae rhywun yn ei ddweud yn Saesneg, how they align, â darnau eraill o ddeddfwriaeth. Pwy bynnag sydd eisiau mynd yn gyntaf.
English: I would say that the Welsh Government has a specific role in promoting the Act and accelerating the emphasis and importance of the Act. I'll give you an example of what you're asking about in terms of decisions being made. Sometimes - and we understand this - as Alun said, urgent decisions are made. It appears - and I emphasise the word 'appears' - to me that there are decisions, for example, on travel and buses and so forth, and maybe the solution with the bus companies and the bus transport system is ideal for Cardiff, but, believe me, for Llanfair-yng-nghornwy and Llannerch-y-medd and so forth in rural areas, it's not ideal, and we need to use the Act to make decisions where you can include everyone, and consult and ask them what you think the long-term solutions are for people who don't have a bus or a means of travel, and what's the impact on mental health, not being able to get to shops and so forth. This is a very simple example. Does every official - ? I'm not talking about elected members, but does every official within every organisation in government, whether local authority or national Government, respond to the Act? I have to say my views in terms of the Welsh language. That's one of the goals. I don't think that's been embedded in every official in the Welsh Government, and I'm not scared of saying that either, and we need to promote that. It's not an add-on - it needs to be a core part of every decision to ensure that the Welsh language and our Welsh culture prosper. Gethin, do you have any specific examples?
Welsh: Byddwn i'n dweud bod gan Lywodraeth Cymru rôl bendant i hyrwyddo'r Ddeddf ac efallai cyflymu pwyslais a phwysigrwydd y Ddeddf. Mi rof i enghraifft i chi pan fyddwch chi'n gofyn am benderfyniadau. Weithiau - ac mae rhywun yn deall pam - fel dywedodd Alun, mae yna benderfyniadau brys yn cael eu gwneud. Mae'n ymddangos - a dwi'n pwysleisio'r gair 'ymddangos' - i mi fod yna benderfyniadau, er enghraifft, efo teithio a'r holl fusnes efo teithio a bysus a ballu, ac efallai fod yr ateb efo cwmnïau bysus a'r drefn teithio bysus yn ddelfrydol i Gaerdydd, ond, credwch chi fi, i Lanfair-yng-nghornwy a Llannerch-y-medd yng nghanol cefn gwlad, dydy o ddim. Ac mae eisiau defnyddio'r Ddeddf i wneud penderfyniadau lle rydych chi'n gallu cynnwys pawb, ymgynghori ar beth rydych chi'n meddwl ydy'r ateb hirdymor i bobl heb fws, heb ffordd o deithio, beth ydy effaith hynny ar iechyd meddwl, methu â chael mynd at siopau ac yn y blaen. Mae hyn jest yn enghraifft syml, syml iawn. Ydy pob swyddog - ? Dwi ddim yn sôn am aelodau etholedig - ydy bob swyddog o fewn bob sefydliad ym mhob llywodraeth, boed hi'n haen llywodraeth leol neu Lywodraeth Cymru, yn ymateb i'r Ddeddf? Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud fy marn am ochr y Gymraeg. Mae honno'n un o'r nodau. Dwi ddim yn meddwl bod honno wedi'i gwreiddio ymhlith bob swyddog Llywodraeth Cymru, a does gen i ddim ofn ei ddweud o, ac mae yna angen hyrwyddo hynny. Nid add-on ydy o - mae o i fod yn greiddiol i bob penderfyniad i sicrhau bod y Gymraeg a'n diwylliant Cymreig ni yn ffynnu. Gethin, oes gen ti unrhyw enghraifft bendant?
English: Sorry, I hadn't muted or unmuted myself before then, so I apologise for that. I want to agree with what Annwen has said. One of the things that is necessary now in moving forward is to see the leadership role of the Welsh Government coming into force in terms of realising the Act. It returns to what we mentioned previously in terms of the Act being a core part of how policies are implemented across the sector. And I think it's vital, with the examples or with the way in which the Government does operate, in terms of putting policies in place that have specific targets, that there is some kind of resource or match funding that comes with it and tools up local authorities to be able to realise the expectations. I'll give you two examples: one, evidently, where we're working well in terms of Ynys Môn, is the recycling rate. We've set the target that we'll recycle 70 per cent by 2025, but we've also set the target that we'll be carbon neutral by 2030. Resource and a pot of money needs to be available in order to tool up organisations to realise that kind of expectation, I would say.
Welsh: Sori. Doeddwn i ddim yn 'unmute-io' na 'mute-io' fy hun cyn rŵan, so dwi'n ymddiheuro. I gytuno efo beth mae Annwen wedi'i nodi, dwi'n meddwl mai un o'r pethau sydd yn angenrheidiol rŵan, yn symud ymlaen, ydy i weld rôl arweinyddiaeth Llywodraeth Cymru yn dod i rym o safbwynt gwireddu'r Ddeddf. Mae'n mynd yn ôl eto at beth roeddwn i'n sôn amdano - bod y Ddeddf yn greiddiol i fel mae polisïau'n cael eu gweithredu ar draws y sector. A dwi'n meddwl ei fod o'n bwysig tu hwnt, gyda'r enghreifftiau neu gyda'r ffordd mae'r Llywodraeth yn gweithredu, o safbwynt rhoi polisïau mewn lle sydd efo targedau penodol, fod yna wedyn ryw fath o adnodd neu arian cyfatebol yn dod gyda fo ac yn arfogi llywodraethau lleol i fedru gwireddu eu disgwyliad. Gwnaf i roi dwy enghraifft benodol. Un, yn amlwg, lle rydym ni'n gweithredu'n dda, o safbwynt Ynys Môn, ydy'r un o safbwynt y gyfradd ailgylchu. Rydym ni wedi gosod y targed ein bod ni'n ailgylchu 70 y cant erbyn 2025, ond rydym ni hefyd wedi gosod y targed ein bod ni'n mynd i fod yn garbon niwtral erbyn 2030. Mae angen i adnodd a phot o arian fod ar gael er mwyn arfogi sefydliadau i wireddu'r math yna o ddisgwyliad, buaswn i'n ei nodi.
English: Thank you, Gethin. Alun or Diana, did you want to add anything?
Welsh: Diolch, Gethin. Alun neu Diana, oeddech chi eisiau ategu unrhyw beth?