English: Well, can I thank Darren Millar for the very positive and the very constructive statement he's made, and a lot of very valid questions that have been asked? The issue of reform and the delivery of services, which is an issue that frequently gets raised within this Chamber, is one where I think it is well recognised now that there are levers that we just don't have in order to actually fulfil some of the policies that we are actually elected upon. We've argued for a long time, for example, in justice areas - a whole range of areas that are within our responsibility where, for example, key levers just aren't with us. We look at the areas of youth justice, of probation and family. Those things would just so naturally fall within one umbrella where some of the levers are with us, but some of the key ones aren't. And there is a logic to further progress within those areas. We've also looked at the area of the police on many occasions, and, of course, not only do we make a substantial financial contribution towards the cost of the police, and in addition towards community support officers - who, let us not forget, came in because of the reductions in police numbers, so we had to take that step - but when you discuss things like community safety and you realise that you don't have some of the key levers to engage with the police and in terms of the planning and the direction of community policing, then clearly there are real issues in terms of those particular levers. There are also key levers in respect of funding that have an impact. We have lost substantial amounts of money in funding by virtue of our leaving the European Union, and that money not being replaced and coming back to this place, where it would fund a comprehensive programme of implementation in terms of our public policy objectives. So, clearly there are issues there that are very important, and are among some of the many issues that would be the substance of what we would want to see the commission discussing. In terms of the timescale, I have delivered several lectures so far to talk about the general concept of the commission, and it seems to me that one of the objectives of the commission would be to try and complete work within about 18 to 24 months, but also to make a recommendation in terms of the establishment of a longer standing constitutional commission. Because, really, if they're going to come forward with a series of important recommendations and proposals, if they're able to build a consensus around key areas that could make governance within Wales better, then we need to have those carried through beyond that period of time. But the sort of citizens' commission that we're talking about at the moment would not be that particular body. And, in terms of co-chairs, well, whether it's a chair and a vice-chair to support, or co-chairs, those are options that are there to consider how the responsibility of leading such a commission might be shared, how it might be shared with better gender balance and so on. In terms of the issue of governance and devolution within Wales itself, I think one of the things it would want to look at certainly would be governance, not just in terms of this place, but in terms of local government, the decentralisation of policy, how governance might be better, brought closer to the people, more effective and so on. So, I think all those issues are issues I raised not so long ago within questions when I was asked about this as well. And, in terms of an expert panel, well, of course, in considering options, it is necessary also to look at the hard data to actually form a proper evaluation to test and to probe some of the ideas that may be coming forward, some of the things that people might suggest. So, I think that is important. In terms of the actual terms of reference, those are things I think that when we're able to identify a chair and vice-chair or co-chairs, and begin work in terms of drawing up a list of people that might be appropriate for the commission, that we will want to engage with those people in order to identify and develop what would be the sorts of terms of reference and what would be the mechanisms whereby the commission could go forward. So, as I said, the biggest challenge is going to be how we actually develop an engagement programme and how we actually put together a commission that is as diverse and representative as possible. The Member asked what size; the size isn't absolutely fixed. I suspect it's going to be a commission of around nine to 11 people, so there are going to be obviously difficult choices. That is not an absolute, but that would seem to me to be the sort of operational structure that we would want to see established. In terms of the conversation itself, well, you can't go out to the people of Wales and say, 'We're going to have a conversation about the future of Wales, the governance of Wales, the values of Wales' and to try and predetermine the parameters within which that can take place - that is in terms of excluding views that people would want to make. Because if you engage with people, they will come up with a whole variety of views, maybe things we've never thought of, but it is important that it is inclusive and that it is an open conversation, that it is a genuine conversation as well.
Welsh: Wel, a gaf i ddiolch i Darren Millar am y datganiad cadarnhaol iawn ac adeiladol iawn a wnaeth ef, a'r llawer iawn o gwestiynau dilys iawn a ofynnwyd ganddo? Mae diwygio a darparu gwasanaethau, sy'n fater a gaiff ei godi yn y Siambr hon yn aml, yn un yr wyf i o'r farn fod yna gydnabyddiaeth eang nad yw'r ysgogiadau gennym i gyflawni rhai o'r polisïau y cawsom ein hethol i'w cyflawni mewn gwirionedd. Rydym wedi dadlau ers tro byd, er enghraifft, ym meysydd cyfiawnder - ystod eang o feysydd sydd o fewn ein cyfrifoldeb ni lle, er enghraifft, nad yw'r ysgogiadau allweddol gennym ni. Rydym ni'n ystyried meysydd cyfiawnder ieuenctid, y gwasanaeth prawf a'r teulu. Fe fyddai mor naturiol gweld y pethau hynny'n dod o dan yr un ymbarél lle mae rhai o'r ysgogiadau gyda ni, ond nid rhai o'r rhai allweddol. Ac mae cynnydd pellach yn y meysydd hynny'n ddigon rhesymol. Rydym ni wedi edrych droeon hefyd ar faes yr heddlu. Ac, wrth gwrs, nid yn unig yr ydym yn gwneud cyfraniad ariannol sylweddol tuag at gost yr heddlu, a hefyd tuag at gost swyddogion cymorth cymunedol - a ddaeth i mewn, peidiwch ag anghofio, oherwydd y gostyngiadau yn niferoedd yr heddlu, felly bu'n rhaid inni gymryd y cam hwnnw - ond pan fyddwch chi'n trafod pethau fel diogelwch cymunedol a'ch bod chi'n sylweddoli nad yw rhai o'r ysgogiadau allweddol gennych chi i ymgysylltu â'r heddlu ac o ran cynllunio a chyfeiriad plismona cymunedol, yna mae'n amlwg fod yna broblemau gwirioneddol o ran yr ysgogiadau penodol hynny. Fe geir ysgogiadau allweddol hefyd o ran cyllid sy'n cael effaith. Rydym wedi colli symiau sylweddol o arian o ran cyllid yn sgil ein hymadawiad ni â'r Undeb Ewropeaidd, ac ni ddaeth arian yn ei le yn ôl i'r fan hon, lle byddai'n ariannu rhaglen weithredu gynhwysfawr o ran ein hamcanion polisi cyhoeddus ni. Felly, mae'n amlwg fod yna faterion sy'n bwysig iawn, ac sydd ymhlith y materion niferus a fyddai'n llunio sylwedd yr hyn y byddem ni'n awyddus i'r comisiwn ei drafod. O ran yr amserlen, rwyf wedi cyflwyno nifer o ddarlithoedd hyd yma i sôn am gysyniad cyffredinol y comisiwn, ac mae'n ymddangos i mi mai un o amcanion y comisiwn fyddai ceisio cwblhau'r gwaith o fewn tua 18 i 24 mis, ond i wneud argymhelliad hefyd o ran sefydlu comisiwn cyfansoddiadol hir sefydlog. Oherwydd, mewn gwirionedd, os ydyn nhw am gyflwyno cyfres o argymhellion a chynigion pwysig, os ydyn nhw am greu consensws ynghylch meysydd allweddol a allai sicrhau llywodraethu gwell yng Nghymru, yna mae angen dwyn y pethau hynny ymlaen y tu hwnt i'r cyfnod hwnnw. Ond nid y math o gomisiwn dinasyddion yr ydym ni'n sôn amdano ar hyn o bryd fyddai'r corff penodol hwnnw. Ac, o ran cyd-gadeiryddion, wel, boed hynny'n gadeirydd ac is-gadeirydd i gefnogi, neu'n gyd-gadeiryddion, mae'r rhain yn ddewisiadau sydd ar gael i ystyried sut y gellid rhannu'r cyfrifoldeb o arwain comisiwn o'r fath, a sut y gellid rhannu cyfrifoldebau gyda gwell cydbwysedd rhwng y rhywiau ac yn y blaen. O ran llywodraethu a datganoli yng Nghymru ei hun, credaf mai un o'r pethau y byddai am edrych arno fyddai llywodraethu, yn sicr, nid yn unig o ran gwaith y fan hon, ond o ran llywodraeth leol, datganoli polisi, a sut y gallai llywodraethu fod yn well, gan fod yn agosach at y bobl, a bod yn fwy effeithiol ac yn y blaen. Felly, rwy'n credu bod yr holl faterion hynny'n faterion a godais i ychydig yn ôl mewn cwestiynau pan ofynnwyd imi am hyn hefyd. Ac, o ran panel o arbenigwyr, wel, wrth gwrs, wrth ystyried dewisiadau, mae angen edrych ar y data caled hefyd i lunio gwerthusiad priodol i brofi ac ymchwilio i rai o'r syniadau a all gael eu cyflwyno, rhai o'r pethau y gallai pobl eu hawgrymu. Felly, rwy'n credu bod hynny'n bwysig. O ran y cylch gorchwyl gwirioneddol, yn fy marn i, pan fyddwn ni'n gallu canfod cadeirydd ac is-gadeirydd neu gyd-gadeiryddion, ac yn dechrau ar y gwaith o lunio rhestr o bobl a allai fod yn addas i'r comisiwn, yna fe fyddwn ni'n awyddus i ymgysylltu â'r bobl hynny i nodi a datblygu beth fyddai'r math o gylch gorchwyl a beth fyddai'r mecanweithiau i ganiatáu i'r comisiwn wneud ei waith. Felly, fel y dywedais, yr her fwyaf mewn gwirionedd fydd sut y byddwn ni'n datblygu rhaglen ymgysylltu a sut y byddwn ni'n ffurfio comisiwn sydd mor amrywiol a chynrychioliadol â phosibl. Fe ofynnodd yr Aelod am ei faint; nid yw ei faint wedi ei bennu'n gyfan gwbl. Rwy'n amau y bydd hwn yn gomisiwn o tua naw i 11 o bobl, felly fe fydd yna ddewisiadau anodd, yn amlwg. Nid yw hwnnw'n rhif absoliwt, ond mae'n ymddangos i mi mai dyna'r math o strwythur gweithredol y byddem ni'n dymuno ei weld yn cael ei sefydlu. O ran y sgwrs ei hunan, wel, ni allwch fynd at bobl Cymru a dweud, 'Rydym yn mynd i gael trafodaeth am ddyfodol Cymru, llywodraethu Cymru, gwerthoedd Cymru' a cheisio pennu'r paramedrau ar gyfer cyflawni hynny - hynny yw, o ran eithrio safbwyntiau y byddai pobl yn awyddus i'w mynegi. Oherwydd os ydych yn mynd i ymgysylltu â phobl, fe fyddan nhw'n cynnig amrywiaeth eang o safbwyntiau, a phethau nad ydym ni erioed wedi meddwl amdanynt efallai, ond mae'n bwysig ei bod yn gynhwysol a'i bod yn sgwrs agored, ac yn sgwrs ddilys hefyd.