English: I'm very pleased to take part in this discussion because I think we need to have more discussions in generalities about expected expenditure rather than talking about lines of expenditure and whether there should be an extra £10 to £15 million here or there, but actually talking about it as a general point. I was also very pleased we had a finance meeting in Aberystwyth, meeting with members of the public. It was very helpful to me, because I met with people from the environment groups, from local government, and further and adult education, but I met with them outside what I would describe as my comfort zone of Swansea. It was interesting to have views from people in the same areas that I've taken an interest in and have a small amount of knowledge on, but who actually live in another area, and I certainly learnt a lot from that. I think the one thing that we should all remember all the time is it's the public's money we are spending. Far too often, we talk about Government money and we talk about Assembly money, but it's the public's money and we are responsible to them. It was very interesting to talk to them. We talked about, basically, the effect of austerity and cutbacks on public services, that local government has borne the brunt of public sector cuts, whilst social care has the greatest pressures of any service - and I include health in that. Social care is under tremendous pressure. And it's so incredibly important. If you don't fund social care then people will end up in hospital. If you support them in their homes, give them that little bit of help they need, then they will not be falling, they will not reach that stage where they need to end up in hospital. So, you're actually helping health by keeping people in their homes. The local government representative, coming from the Ceredigion/Powys area, was very keen to point out - and I wish Russell George was here, because he keeps on pointing it out as well - the cost of providing rural services, and they're absolutely right about the cost of providing rural services. I counted with him, and I count them in here regularly - they're the additional demand in areas where you have social deprivation. So, it's the difficulty of providing the services, and the demand. But, basically, we're not - . It's not a debate between Blaenau Gwent and Powys for the money; it's really a debate that we need additional money into the system. Cutbacks have had a huge effect on education. Local authorities have generally tried to protect social services and education, but that's been at - . What's been affected? Library services, leisure services, leisure centres, sports facilities - all the things that are non-statutory services, they've been cut back. And some of the statutory services have been pared back. So, I think it really is important that we realise just how important these non-statutory services are in basically keeping people well and getting them out of the house. The importance of school transport was highlighted - or, as the Conservatives have said in here fairly regularly, 'bureaucracy'; that money held by local authorities centrally that pays for school buses, they describe as money being held back for bureaucracy. I think that they need to give further thought to what money being held by local authorities centrally is actually being spent on. Adult and further education - that again has borne more than its fair share of any cuts. Whilst we've given protection to schools and we've given protection within further education to 16 to 18-year-olds, those people who are going into - they want to stay on and retrain and reskill - . And we talk a lot, don't we, about giving people a second chance and people getting the opportunity to reskill in a changing world? Those courses have been cut dramatically, because the money going into further education is being cut dramatically, and what has gone in has been mainly aimed at 16 to 18-year-olds. That's been a conscious decision of the Government. In fact, they actually sent letters out saying that - that's not just of this Government now, it goes back to the 2007-2011 Government, who sent exactly those letters out. On the environment, there was a call for more trees. I always call for more trees. I got into trouble with the Farmers Union of Wales when I said, 'We need more trees everywhere', but we need to protect the environment. The budget does not allocate anywhere near enough resources for environmental matters, and we also have the situation that Natural Resources Wales is massively underfunded. I don't think it was a good idea merging the three organisations together, and merging the three organisations together and then not funding them adequately has only led to problems. I've got two things I would like to finish with. As we know, we've got real growth of 2.3 per cent in income next year. I would like to see the Welsh Government now say that no service will get an increase less than in line with inflation, and that includes every local authority. There is no reason why that can't be done, because you've still got the growth area to give to Government priorities, but let's protect everybody. We talk about preventive spend - and we always talk about preventive spend - can we put some money into public health? Because we lost the public health part of Communities First, which did a tremendous job on things like physical activity and promoting healthy eating, but we do need to get people better rather than waiting until they get ill and treating them.
Welsh: Rwy'n falch iawn o gymryd rhan yn y drafodaeth hon oherwydd rwy'n credu bod angen i ni gael mwy o drafodaethau yn gyffredinol ynghylch gwariant disgwyliedig yn hytrach na siarad am linellau gwariant ac a ddylid cael £10 i £15 miliwn ychwanegol yma neu acw, ond siarad amdano fel pwynt cyffredinol mewn gwirionedd. Roeddwn innau hefyd yn falch iawn ein bod wedi cael cyfarfod cyllid yn Aberystwyth, gan gyfarfod ag aelodau o'r cyhoedd. Roedd yn ddefnyddiol iawn i mi, oherwydd cyfarfûm â phobl o'r grwpiau amgylcheddol, o lywodraeth leol, ac addysg bellach ac addysg i oedolion, ond cyfarfûm â hwy y tu allan i'r hyn y buaswn yn ei ddisgrifio fel fy nghornel gysurus yn Abertawe. Roedd yn ddiddorol cael barn pobl yn yr un meysydd ag y bu gennyf ddiddordeb ynddynt a meysydd y mae gennyf ychydig o wybodaeth amdanynt, ond sy'n byw mewn ardal arall, ac rwy'n sicr wedi dysgu llawer o hynny. Credaf mai'r un peth y dylem i gyd ei gofio drwy'r amser yw mai arian y cyhoedd a werir gennym. Yn rhy aml o lawer, rydym yn sôn am arian y Llywodraeth, a siaradwn am arian y Cynulliad, ond arian y cyhoedd ydyw ac rydym yn atebol iddynt. Diddorol iawn oedd siarad â hwy. Buom yn sôn, yn y bôn, am effaith cyni a thoriadau ar wasanaethau cyhoeddus, mai llywodraeth leol sydd wedi ysgwyddo'r baich mwyaf o doriadau yn y sector cyhoeddus, ac mai gofal cymdeithasol sy'n wynebu'r pwysau mwyaf ar unrhyw wasanaeth - ac rwy'n cynnwys iechyd yn hynny. Mae gofal cymdeithasol o dan bwysau aruthrol. Ac mae'n hynod o bwysig. Os nad ydych yn ariannu gofal cymdeithasol yna bydd pobl yn mynd i'r ysbyty yn y pen draw. Os ydych yn eu cefnogi yn eu cartrefi, yn rhoi'r mymryn bach o gymorth y maent ei angen, yna ni fyddant yn cwympo, ni fyddant yn cyrraedd y cam hwnnw lle bydd angen iddynt fynd i'r ysbyty. Felly, rydych chi'n helpu iechyd mewn gwirionedd drwy gadw pobl yn eu cartrefi. Roedd y cynrychiolydd llywodraeth leol, a oedd yn dod o ardal Ceredigion/Powys, yn awyddus iawn i dynnu sylw - a byddai'n dda gennyf pe bai Russell George yma, oherwydd mae'n ei nodi'n gyson hefyd - at gost darparu gwasanaethau gwledig, ac maent yn gwbl gywir ynghylch cost darparu gwasanaethau gwledig. Cyfrifais gydag ef, ac rwy'n eu cyfrif yma'n rheolaidd - dyma'r galw ychwanegol mewn ardaloedd lle mae gennych amddifadedd cymdeithasol. Felly, mae gennych yr anhawster o ddarparu'r gwasanaethau, a'r galw. Ond yn y bôn, nid ydym - . Nid yw'n ddadl rhwng Blaenau Gwent a Phowys am yr arian; mae'n ddadl fod angen arian ychwanegol arnom yn y system. Mae toriadau wedi cael effaith enfawr ar addysg. Yn gyffredinol, mae awdurdodau lleol wedi ceisio diogelu gwasanaethau cymdeithasol ac addysg, ond mae hynny wedi bod yn - . Ar beth yr effeithiwyd? Gwasanaethau llyfrgell, gwasanaethau hamdden, canolfannau hamdden, cyfleusterau chwaraeon - yr holl bethau sy'n wasanaethau anstatudol, maent wedi'u torri'n ôl. Ac mae rhai o'r gwasanaethau statudol wedi cael eu cwtogi. Felly, rwy'n credu ei bod yn bwysig iawn ein bod yn sylweddoli pa mor bwysig yw'r gwasanaethau anstatudol hyn yn y bôn yn cadw pobl yn iach a'u cael allan o'r tŷ. Tynnwyd sylw at bwysigrwydd cludiant i'r ysgol - neu, fel y mae'r Ceidwadwyr wedi dweud yn y fan hon yn weddol reolaidd, 'biwrocratiaeth'; maent yn disgrifio'r arian a gedwir gan awdurdodau lleol yn ganolog i dalu am fysiau ysgol fel arian a gedwir ar gyfer biwrocratiaeth. Credaf fod angen iddynt ystyried ymhellach ar beth y gwerir yr arian sy'n cael ei gadw gan awdurdodau lleol yn ganolog mewn gwirionedd. Addysg i oedolion ac addysg bellach - mae'r rheini eto wedi ysgwyddo mwy na'u cyfran deg o unrhyw doriadau. Er ein bod wedi diogelu ysgolion ac wedi diogelu addysg bellach i bobl ifanc rhwng 16 a 18 oed, mae'r rheini sy'n mynd i mewn - maent am aros ymlaen ac ailhyfforddi ac ailsgilio - . Ac rydym yn siarad llawer, onid ydym, am roi ail gyfle i bobl, a phobl yn cael cyfle i ailsgilio mewn byd sy'n newid? Mae'r cyrsiau hynny wedi'u torri'n ddramatig, oherwydd mae'r arian sy'n mynd tuag at addysg bellach yn cael ei gwtogi'n ddramatig, ac mae'r hyn sydd wedi mynd i mewn wedi'i anelu'n bennaf at bobl ifanc 16 i 18 oed. Mae hwnnw wedi bod yn benderfyniad ymwybodol gan y Llywodraeth. Mewn gwirionedd, anfonasant lythyrau allan yn dweud hynny - nid y Llywodraeth hon yn awr yn unig, mae'n mynd yn ôl i Lywodraeth 2007-2011, a anfonodd yr union lythyrau hynny allan. O ran yr amgylchedd, cafwyd galw am fwy o goed. Rwyf bob amser yn galw am fwy o goed. Cefais drafferthion gydag Undeb Amaethwyr Cymru pan ddywedais, 'Mae arnom angen mwy o goed ym mhobman', ond mae angen inni warchod yr amgylchedd. Nid yw'r gyllideb yn neilltuo agos digon o adnoddau ar gyfer materion amgylcheddol, ac mae gennym sefyllfa hefyd fod Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru'n cael ei danariannu'n aruthrol. Nid wyf yn meddwl bod uno'r tri sefydliad gyda'i gilydd yn syniad da, ac mae cyfuno'r tri sefydliad a pheidio â'u hariannu'n ddigonol wedyn wedi arwain at broblemau. Mae gennyf ddau beth yr hoffwn eu dweud i orffen. Fel y gwyddom, rydym wedi cael twf gwirioneddol o 2.3 y cant yn yr incwm ar gyfer y flwyddyn nesaf. Hoffwn weld Llywodraeth Cymru yn dweud yn awr na fydd yr un gwasanaeth yn cael cynnydd is na chwyddiant, ac mae hynny'n cynnwys pob awdurdod lleol. Nid oes unrhyw reswm pam na ellir gwneud hynny, oherwydd mae gennych yr ardal twf o hyd i'w roi tuag at flaenoriaethau'r Llywodraeth, ond gadewch i ni amddiffyn pawb. Rydym yn sôn am wariant ataliol - ac rydym bob amser yn siarad am wariant ataliol - a allwn roi rhywfaint o arian tuag at iechyd cyhoeddus? Oherwydd collasom y rhan iechyd cyhoeddus o Cymunedau yn Gyntaf, a wnaeth waith aruthrol ar bethau fel gweithgarwch corfforol a hybu bwyta'n iach, ond mae angen inni gael pobl yn well yn hytrach nag aros nes eu bod yn mynd yn sâl a'u trin wedyn.