English: Well, the Member is unfortunate in his choice of words, because what he described at the very beginning is a power grab. What he said was that these matters would now be dealt with in UK law. Well, UK law doesn't actually exist in reality. But, secondly, it is not a matter for the UK Parliament in its entirety in terms of what happens with EU law. Much law is devolved, and it will be wholly unacceptable for the UK Parliament to have a role in terms of dealing with devolved administration in any of the devolved nations. That is a matter entirely for this institution, and those who are elected to serve in it. He mentions farming. This work is already ongoing. The Minister has met with farming unions on a number of occasions. But, again, the uncertainty we face is that we do not know whether there will be any money available for farming subsidies post 2020. That certainty has not been given. For me, the issue of tariffs looms very, very large. Many, many businesses have expressed to me their great concern at the possibility of tariffs, and their great concern about the possibility of diverging regulatory regimes, if that were to happen in the future. The reality is, if there is free and unfettered access to the European market without tariffs, then that would be immensely helpful. There's no question about that. That, for me, is an absolute red line as far as Wales and Britain are both concerned. If, however, there are tariffs, then that will mean that much of what we produce will become uncompetitive. We will find ourselves in a position where a market that's bigger than America and Russia combined is not as open to us as once it was, and I don't think economically that makes any sense at all. What does worry me is that there are some on the right of the Conservative Party who seem to think - and I don't mention him, because it's not something that he's said, but I've heard Peter Lilley say it, John Redwood and Patrick Minford, who've all basically said that we should have tariff-free access for all manufactured goods and all food. That would destroy farming, I'll tell you that now, and it would destroy our manufacturing industry. The quid pro quo would be access to new markets for financial services. In other words, as long as the City of London's alright, then no-one else matters. That can never be an acceptable situation to any of us in Wales. It's not a view shared, in fairness, by everybody in his party, but it is nevertheless a view that I've heard expressed by many on the right wing of his party.
Welsh: Wel, mae dewis geiriau yr Aelod yn anffodus, oherwydd cydio pŵer yw'r union beth a ddisgrifiodd ar y cychwyn. Yr hyn a ddywedodd oedd y byddai cyfraith y DU yn ymdrin â'r materion hyn nawr. Wel, nid yw cyfraith y DU yn bodoli mewn gwirionedd. Ond, yn ail, nid yw'n fater i Senedd y DU yn ei chyfanrwydd o ran yr hyn sy'n digwydd gyda chyfraith yr UE. Mae llawer o ddeddfau wedi'u datganoli, a bydd yn gwbl annerbyniol i Senedd y DU fod â swyddogaeth o ran ymdrin â gweinyddiaeth ddatganoledig mewn unrhyw un o'r cenhedloedd datganoledig. Mater i'r sefydliad hwn yn gyfan gwbl yw hynny, ac i'r rhai sydd wedi eu hethol i wasanaethu ynddo. Mae'n sôn am ffermio. Mae'r gwaith hwn eisoes ar y gweill. Mae'r Gweinidog wedi cyfarfod ag undebau ffermio ar sawl achlysur. Ond, unwaith eto, yr ansicrwydd sy'n ein hwynebu yw nad ydym yn gwybod a fydd unrhyw arian ar gael ar gyfer cymorthdaliadau ffermio ar ôl 2020. Nid yw'r sicrwydd hwnnw wedi ei roi. I mi, mae'r mater o dariffau yn flaenllaw dros ben. Mae llawer iawn o fusnesau wedi mynegi i mi eu pryder mawr am y posibilrwydd o dariffau, a'u pryder mawr am y posibilrwydd o wahanol drefniadau rheoleiddio, pe byddai hynny'n digwydd yn y dyfodol. Y gwir amdani yw, os ceir mynediad rhydd a dilyffethair at farchnad Ewrop heb dariffau, yna byddai hynny'n hynod ddefnyddiol. Nid oes unrhyw amheuaeth am hynny. Mae honno, i mi, yn llinell goch bendant cyn belled ag y mae Cymru a Phrydain yn y cwestiwn. Os, fodd bynnag, y bydd tariffau, yna bydd hynny'n golygu y bydd llawer o'r hyn yr ydym ni'n ei gynhyrchu yn dod yn anghystadleuol. Byddwn yn canfod ein hunain mewn sefyllfa lle nad yw marchnad sy'n fwy nag America a Rwsia gyda'i gilydd mor agored i ni ag yr oedd ar un adeg, ac nid wyf yn credu bod hynny'n gwneud unrhyw synnwyr economaidd o gwbl. Yr hyn sydd yn fy mhoeni i yw bod rhai ar asgell dde y Blaid Geidwadol y mae'n ymddangos eu bod yn meddwl - ac nid wyf yn sôn amdano fe, oherwydd nid yw'n rhywbeth y mae wedi ei ddweud, ond rwyf wedi clywed Peter Lilley yn ei ddweud, John Redwood a Patrick Minford, sydd i gyd wedi dweud yn y bôn y dylem ni gael mynediad di-dariff ar gyfer yr holl nwyddau a weithgynhyrchir a phob math o fwyd. Byddai hynny'n dinistrio ffermio, mi ddywedaf i hynny wrthych chi nawr, a byddai'n dinistrio ein diwydiant gweithgynhyrchu. Y quid pro quo fyddai mynediad at farchnadoedd newydd ar gyfer gwasanaethau ariannol. Mewn geiriau eraill, cyn belled bod Dinas Llundain yn iawn, yna nid oes ots am neb arall. Ni all hynny byth fod yn sefyllfa dderbyniol i unrhyw un ohonom ni yng Nghymru. Nid yw'n farn a rennir, er tegwch, gan bawb yn ei blaid, ond, serch hynny, mae'n farn yr wyf i wedi ei chlywed yn cael ei mynegi gan lawer ar asgell dde ei blaid.