English: I am pleased that the Labour Member supports the fact that a checkpoint society is the wrong approach, so I look forward to him voting against the regulations this afternoon. There is a real risk here that the implementation of COVID passes could be a complete disaster. In Scotland, we have seen the roll-out has been a disaster there - I don't use that word lightly; it has been a disaster there - and the Labour Party conference in Brighton was plagued with problems; we know that as well. The Welsh Government - I would really urge them to think again before bringing forward these regulations. The roll-out of the vaccination programme has been a success across the UK and here in Wales, and that is to the credit of our key workers across the UK. The majority of the UK population are now vaccinated. So, all this amazing effort, I think, negates the need for COVID passes, which impact so much on people's freedoms. I have to say, as well, I've had contacts from groups this week, from those representing disability groups, those with disabilities and those that are unable to take the vaccination, about the consequences on those people as well. We mustn't become a two-tiered society, and this is - [ Interruption.] Yes, I do, Joyce Watson. Yes, I believe that we will become a two-tiered society, and this is what this issue is, Joyce. You need to listen to this debate this afternoon. The introduction of this policy puts Wales at a real risk of becoming exactly that, and it simply undermines the freedom of choice. I don't think this is a party political issue as well; I think that views across this transcend party lines. I listened to what the Minister said in her opening comments about that particular age group as well, those under-25s, but I note that the Welsh Government's own technical advisory cell advises against using vaccination passports, stating that the studies have shown that their use could backfire. The study produced many points as to why vaccine passports are a bad idea. This is the Welsh Government's own technical advisory cell. They concluded that they have had a detrimental effect on people's motivation and willingness to have the vaccination. And's it's important to note that the study also said that vaccination passports will have an effect on people's relationship with local government and health authorities as well. We don't want people to lose that trust in Government officials or our health boards and our health and care workers. We don't want that to happen, and we don't want to have a checkpoint society. I really think that these regulations will be a stumbling block to so many groups of people, and I think there's a real danger here if they are agreed this afternoon, which is why I strongly urge Members to vote against these regulations today. Diolch yn fawr.
Welsh: Rwy'n falch bod yr Aelod Llafur yn cefnogi'r ffaith mai cymdeithas reolfa yw'r dull anghywir, felly edrychaf ymlaen ato'n pleidleisio yn erbyn y rheoliadau y prynhawn yma. Mae perygl gwirioneddol yma y gallai gweithredu pasys COVID fod yn drychineb llwyr. Yn yr Alban, rydym ni wedi gweld y bu'r cyflwyno yn drychineb yno - nid wyf i'n defnyddio'r gair hwnnw'n ysgafn; bu'n drychineb yno - ac roedd cynhadledd y Blaid Lafur yn Brighton yn frith o broblemau; rydym ni'n gwybod hynny hefyd. Llywodraeth Cymru - byddwn i'n ei hannog yn daer i ailystyried cyn cyflwyno'r rheoliadau hyn. Mae cyflwyno'r rhaglen frechu wedi bod yn llwyddiant ledled y DU ac yma yng Nghymru, ac mae hynny er clod i'n gweithwyr allweddol ledled y DU. Mae mwyafrif poblogaeth y DU wedi eu brechu erbyn hyn. Felly, mae'r holl ymdrech ryfeddol hon, yn fy marn i, yn negyddu'r angen am basys COVID, sy'n effeithio cymaint ar ryddid pobl. Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud, hefyd, fod grwpiau wedi cysylltu â mi yr wythnos hon, y rhai hynny sy'n cynrychioli grwpiau anabledd, y rhai hynny ag anableddau a'r rhai hynny nad ydyn nhw'n gallu cael y brechiad, am y canlyniadau i'r bobl hynny hefyd. Mae'n rhaid i ni beidio â dod yn gymdeithas ddwy haen, a dyma - [ Torri ar draws.] Ydw, yn wir, Joyce Watson. Ydw, rwyf i yn credu y byddwn yn dod yn gymdeithas ddwy haen, a dyma beth yw'r mater hwn, Joyce. Mae angen i chi wrando ar y ddadl hon y prynhawn yma. Mae cyflwyno'r polisi hwn yn rhoi Cymru mewn perygl gwirioneddol o ddod yn union hynny, ac mae'n tanseilio'r rhyddid i ddewis. Nid wyf i'n credu bod hwn yn fater plaid wleidyddol hefyd; rwy'n credu bod safbwyntiau ar draws hyn yn croesi llinellau pleidiol. Fe wnes i wrando ar yr hyn a ddywedodd y Gweinidog yn ei sylwadau agoriadol am y grŵp oedran penodol hwnnw hefyd, y rhai dan 25 oed, ond rwy'n sylwi bod cell cyngor technegol Llywodraeth Cymru ei hun yn cynghori yn erbyn defnyddio pasbortau brechlyn, gan ddweud bod yr astudiaethau wedi dangos y gallai eu defnyddio gael effaith groes i'w bwriad. Gwnaeth yr astudiaeth lawer o bwyntiau ynghylch pam mae pasbortau brechlyn yn syniad gwael. Dyma gell cyngor technegol Llywodraeth Cymru ei hun. Daethon nhw i'r casgliad eu bod wedi cael effaith andwyol ar gymhelliant a pharodrwydd pobl i gael y brechiad. Ac mae'n bwysig nodi bod yr astudiaeth hefyd wedi dweud y bydd pasbortau brechlyn yn cael effaith ar berthynas pobl â llywodraeth leol ac awdurdodau iechyd hefyd. Nid ydym ni eisiau i bobl golli'r ymddiriedaeth honno yn swyddogion y Llywodraeth na'n byrddau iechyd a'n gweithwyr iechyd a gofal. Nid ydym ni eisiau i hynny ddigwydd, ac nid ydym ni eisiau cymdeithas reolfa. Rwy'n credu yn wirioneddol y bydd y rheoliadau hyn yn rhwystr i gynifer o grwpiau o bobl, ac rwy'n credu bod perygl gwirioneddol yma os cytunir arnyn nhw y prynhawn yma, a dyna pam yr wyf i'n annog yr Aelodau yn gryf i bleidleisio yn erbyn y rheoliadau hyn heddiw. Diolch yn fawr.