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English: Yes. I understand, of course, and am sensitive to that issue, as we all are. I would say, first, that we've tried to do this in the most prudent way possible by looking to be as effective as possible in terms of reducing costs by doing things such as changing the name, not changing the logo and changing all the things relating to a full rebrand - so, quite a cautious element in terms of that spending. But what we're trying to achieve through this more generally is that the people of Wales become more familiar with the difference between what's Parliament and what's Government, and that we now call ourselves what we are and make that clear to the people of Wales and make sure that they better understand what is being delivered on their behalf in this place. We hope that this change will last for a century and more, and is not something that Assemblies in five, 10 or 15 years' time will need to look at again.
Welsh: Ie. Dwi'n deall, wrth gwrs, ac yn sensitif i'r mater yna, fel mae pob un ohonon ni. Byddwn i'n dweud, yn gyntaf, ein bod ni wedi ceisio gwneud hyn yn y ffordd mwyaf darbodus posib drwy edrych ar fod mor effeithiol â phosib ynglŷn â chyn lleied o gost byddai hyn yn ei olygu drwy wneud rhai materion fel newid enw, ddim newid logo a newid yr holl faterion sy'n mynd o gwmpas rhyw rebrand llawn - felly, elfen weddol o ofalus ar sut rŷn ni yn gwario ar hyn oll. Ond, yn fwy cyffredinol, wrth gwrs, beth rŷn ni'n edrych i gyflawni drwy hyn yw bod pobl Cymru yn dod yn fwy cyfarwydd â'r gwahaniaeth rhwng beth sy'n Senedd a beth sy'n Lywodraeth, ac ein bod ni nawr yn galw ein hunain yr hyn yr ydyn ni ac yn gwneud hynny'n glir i bobl Cymru fel bod dealltwriaeth pobl Cymru o'r hyn sy'n cael ei gyflawni yn y lle yma ar eu rhan nhw yn well. Gobeithio fydd hwn yn para am ganrif a mwy i ddod, a dyw e ddim yn rhywbeth bydd Cynulliadau yn y pump, 10, 15 mlynedd nesaf yn gorfod edrych arno eto.
English: Amen. [ Laughter.] But the fact of the matter is, whatever you do as a Commission to raise awareness and to run a public education campaign, the majority of people hear about this place through different sources - through conversations, through news, through discussing what actually happens here - rather than looking at the name. Have you also had discussions with the broadcasters, for example? I hear people on the BBC - for the most part from London, not from Cardiff - who clearly don't understand the governance structure here in Wales after 20 years of devolution, and I would have thought that it was important that we not only scrutinise what's happening here and the costs of this - . And I don't think there are ongoing costs to this, as it happens. I know that you have estimated £1,600 or something - I don't understand that; this place will have a name, whatever that name is. But the truth is: the most important thing that the Commission can do is to have discussions with those people who report on our work.
Welsh: Amen. [ Chwerthin.] Ond y gwir yw, beth bynnag dŷch chi'n ei wneud fel Comisiwn i godi ymwybyddiaeth ac i redeg rhyw raglen o addysg gyhoeddus, bydd y rhan fwyaf o bobl yn clywed amboutu'r lle yma drwy ffynonellau gwahanol - trwy sgwrsio, trwy newyddion, trwy drafod beth sy'n digwydd yma - ac nid yn trafod enw'r lle. Ydych chi hefyd yn trafod, ac wedi cael trafodaethau, gyda'r sefydliadau darlledu, er enghraifft? Dwi'n clywed pobl yn y BBC - y rhan fwyaf o Lundain, nid o Gaerdydd - sydd yn amlwg ddim yn deall strwythur llywodraethol yng Nghymru ar ôl 20 mlynedd o ddatganoli, ac mae'n bwysig, buaswn i'n meddwl, ein bod ni ddim jest yn craffu ar beth sy'n digwydd fan hyn, y costau o wneud hyn - . A dwi ddim yn credu bod yna gostau parhaol i hyn, fel mae'n digwydd. Dwi'n gwybod eich bod chi wedi amcangyfrif £1,600 neu rhywbeth - dwi ddim yn deall hynny; mae'r lle yma yn mynd i fod ag enw, beth bynnag yw e. Ond y gwir yw: y peth pwysig gall y Cynulliad, neu'r Comisiwn, ei wneud yw cynnal trafodaethau gyda'r bobl sy'n adrodd ar ein gwaith.
English: And I do agree with you, but I want to return to that. You're doing that along with the London-based organisations. Because there are more people reading the Daily Mail than the Western Mail. There are more people listening to Radio 2 than listen to Radio Cymru or Radio Wales. So, it is important, my view, at least, that the Commission does look at where the people of Wales actually receive their news.
Welsh: A dwi'n cytuno gyda chi. Ond dwi jest eisiau mynd yn ôl at hynny. Ac rŷch chi'n gwneud hynny gyda sefydliadau yn Llundain hefyd. Mae mwy o bobl yn darllen y Daily Mail na'r Western Mail. Mae mwy o bobl yn gwrando ar Radio 2 na sy'n gwrando ar Radio Cymru neu Radio Wales. Felly, mae'n bwysig, yn fy marn i, bod y Comisiwn yn edrych ar ble mae pobl Cymru'n actually derbyn eu newyddion.
English: I agree with you. We are now working on a programme of work that is increasing and improving our communication work. We've started on that with the media within Wales. It is an additional issue, with more resources, we could do more with that, but, of course, the points that you make are right and it's something for me to have further discussions on with the officials who are responsible for communication.
Welsh: Dwi'n cytuno gyda chi. Rŷn ni wrthi'n gweithio ar raglen o waith sydd yn cynyddu ac yn gwella ein helfennau cyfathrebu ni. Rŷn ni wedi cychwyn dipyn ar hynny gyda'r cyfryngau o fewn Cymru. Mae'n fater ychwanegol, gyda mwy o adnoddau, fe fyddem ni'n gallu gwneud mwy, wrth gwrs, ond mae'r pwyntiau rŷch chi'n eu gwneud yn iawn ac maen nhw'n rhywbeth i fi drafod ymhellach gyda'r swyddogion sydd yn gyfrifol am gyfathrebu.
English: Given that we've been discussing Scotland, a number of the cost estimates are based on the Scottish experience and the costs included in the Scottish Elections (Reduction of Voting Age) Bill. It's worth noting, however, that those figures at that time didn't have scrutiny from the finance committee in the Scottish Parliament and that a long time has passed since then. So, what work has been done to ensure that those figures and the Welsh implications are accurate and are relevant to our situation?
Welsh: Gan ein bod ni wedi bod yn trafod yr Alban, mae nifer o'r amcangyfrifon cost sydd wedi cael eu gwneud yn seiliedig ar brofiad yr Alban a'r costau oedd wedi cael eu cynnwys yn Bil etholiadau'r Alban - y Scottish Elections (Reduction of Voting Age) Bill. Mae'n werth nodi, serch hynny, na chafodd y ffigurau bryd hynny sgrwtini y pwyllgor cyllid yn Senedd yr Alban a bod yna sbel wedi pasio ers hynny. Felly, pa waith sydd wedi'i wneud i sicrhau bod y ffigurau a bod deilliannau Cymreig yn gywir ac yn berthnasol i'n cyd-destun ni ac yn gyfoes?
English: Well, of course, the Scottish experience, and the costs in the original Bill and so on, have been useful for us as we have developed our analysis of the costs emerging from the introduction of this kind of Bill in Wales too. The Bill in Scotland was introduced in something of a hurry, so the elements of scrutiny weren't perhaps carried out in the same way as we're doing here on this particular Bill. And, of course, from what I understand, I'm not aware that any post-legislative scrutiny happened in Scotland either on that particular Bill, but I will ask someone here just to provide a little more information as to how we have used the Scottish figures.
Welsh: Wel, wrth gwrs, mae profiad yr Alban, a'r costau yn y Mesur cychwynnol ac yn y blaen, wedi bod yn ddefnyddiol i ni wrth ddatblygu y gwaith dadansoddi o ran beth yw'r costau sy'n deillio o gyflwyno Mesur o'r math yma yng Nghymru hefyd. Fe oedd yna rywfaint o frys, os dwi'n cofio'n iawn, ar gyflwyno'r Mesur yn yr Alban, felly doedd yr elfennau o'r sgrwtini efallai ddim i gyd wedi cael eu gwneud yn yr un ffordd a dŷn ni'n ei wneud fan hyn ar y Mesur yma. Ac, wrth gwrs, o beth dwi'n deall, dwi ddim yn ymwybodol bod yna unrhyw waith post-legislative wedi digwydd yn yr Alban ar y gwaith yna, ond gwnaf i ofyn i rywun fan hyn roi mwy o wybodaeth ynglŷn â sut dŷn ni wedi defnyddio'r ffigurau o'r Alban.
English: So, we're scrutinising figures from Scotland here in Wales. In terms of awareness raising and any lessons that you've tried to learn from Scotland, the context was very different in Scotland. There was a very high level - . Some of us who were in Scotland at the time will remember this - there was a very high level of awareness anyway among the population there, including the young people who were being invited to vote for the first time. Are you confident that we have taken that into consideration? There will be a higher level of work to be done by the Commission and others, such as the Government, to do proactive work in terms of awareness raising, rather than just being able to rely on what happened naturally in Scotland.
Welsh: Felly, dŷn ni'n sgrwtineiddio'r ffigurau o'r Alban yma yng Nghymru. Ar y cwestiwn o godi ymwybyddiaeth ac unrhyw wersi dŷch chi wedi ceisio eu dysgu o'r Alban, mi oedd y cyd-destun yn wahanol iawn yn yr Alban. Mi oedd yna lefel uchel iawn, iawn, iawn - . Mi fydd rhai ohonom ni fuodd yn yr Alban ar y pryd yn cofio hynny - mi oedd yna lefel uchel iawn o ymwybyddiaeth beth bynnag ymhlith y boblogaeth, yn cynnwys y rhai ifanc oedd yn cael eu gwahodd i bleidleisio am y tro cyntaf. Ydych chi'n hyderus ein bod ni wedi cymryd hynny i ystyriaeth? Bydd yna lefel uwch o waith gan y Comisiwn a gan eraill - y Llywodraeth, er enghraifft - i wneud gwaith rhagweithiol i godi ymwybyddiaeth, yn hytrach na gallu dibynnu ar y don oedd yn digwydd ymhlith y boblogaeth yn naturiol, rhywsut, yn yr Alban.
English: In terms of the two figures that you mentioned there - the £150,000 in terms of cost that was identified for the Commission - that £895,000 figure from the Government wasn't published at the same time. That will cause alarm bells to ring for some people, as to why that figure wasn't included with the figures that were published initially. Are you comfortable or content that that large figure, nearly £1 million, wasn't published with the awareness raising figures initially?
Welsh: O ran y ddau ffigur gwnaethoch chi sôn amdanyn nhw yn y fanna - y £150,000, y gost a gafodd ei adnabod ar gyfer y Comisiwn - chyhoeddwyd ddim o'r ffigur £895,000 gan y Llywodraeth ar yr un pryd. Mi fydd hynny'n canu larymau i rai pobl - pam na allwyd wedi cynnwys y ffigur hwnnw efo'r ffigurau a gafodd eu cyhoeddi. Ydych chi'n gyfforddus na chafodd y ffigur mawr hwnnw o bron £1 filiwn ei gynnwys ochr yn ochr â ac ynghlwm â'r ffigurau ynglŷn â chodi ymwybyddiaeth gychwynnol?
English: Well, I'm comfortable in the fact that I have had discussions with the Welsh Government and Welsh Ministers, one of whom is now sitting at this very table, during the past few months - I've had discussions with Kirsty Williams, Alun Davies, now Julie James, who has jointly signed that most recent letter - and that led me to be comfortable that their commitment in terms of supporting the policy was very robust and that that was going to be reflected in a financial contribution. It was a matter for them as to when they were able to bring those figures forward and to present them to me, and to us, for publication. I think the Counsel General, in his evidence, referred to certain aspects of this funding too. Therefore, it's a significant contribution, but of course they were developing their figures not just for the franchise in terms of 16 and 17-year-olds for National Assembly elections - this budget from Government is a budget for three years of work, which will include that year that will lead up to the local government elections in 2022.
Welsh: Wel, dwi'n gyffyrddus yn y ffaith fy mod i wedi cael trafodaethau gyda Llywodraeth Cymru, Gweinidogion, un ohonyn nhw sydd erbyn hyn yn eistedd o gwmpas y bwrdd hwn, yn ystod y misoedd diwethaf - Kirsty Williams, Alun Davies, nawr Julie James, wrth gwrs, sydd wedi cydlofnodi'r llythyr mwyaf diweddar yna - a oedd yn fy arwain i i fod yn gyfforddus bod eu ymrwymiad nhw o ran cefnogi'r polisi yn un cadarn iawn a bod hynny'n mynd i gael adlewyrchiad, hefyd, mewn cyfraniad ariannol. Mater iddyn nhw oedd pryd roedden nhw'n gallu dod â'r ffigurau yna a'u cyflwyno nhw i fi, ac i ni, i'w cyhoeddi nhw maes o law. Dwi'n meddwl gwnaeth y Cwnsler Cyffredinol, hefyd, yn ei dystiolaeth i chi, gyfeirio at agweddau ar y cyllid yma hefyd. Felly, mae e'n gyfraniad sylweddol, ond, wrth gwrs, roedden nhw'n datblygu eu ffigurau nid dim ond ar gyfer yr etholfraint - ychwanegu pobl 16 ac 17 i'r etholfraint ar gyfer y Cynulliad Cenedlaethol - mae'r gyllideb yma, cofiwch, oddi wrth y Llywodraeth, yn gyllideb ar gyfer tair blynedd o waith, sydd yn cynnwys y flwyddyn yna fydd yn arwain lan at etholiadau llywodraeth leol yn 2022.
English: But they are saying:
Welsh: Ond maen nhw yn dweud:
English: What consideration has been given to that?
Welsh: Pa ystyriaeth sydd wedi cael ei rhoi i hynny?
English: Sorry, who says what?
Welsh: Mae pwy yn dweud, sori?
English: that you mentioned
Welsh: grybwylloch chi
English: Yes, well, they are aware of our contribution to this work. It's now a matter of co-ordinating and dovetailing the work so there is no duplication and that everyone is agreed on a work programme and the expenditure made. We are currently providing some structure as to how that work will commence.
Welsh: Ie, wel, maen nhw'n ymwybodol o'r arian rŷn ni'n rhoi at y gwaith yma. Nawr mater o gydlynu a chydblethu'r gwaith fel nad oes yna ddim dyblygu a bod pawb yn cytuno ar ei rhaglen waith a'r gwariant y byddan nhw'n ei wneud. Rŷn ni wrthi yn rhoi rhyw strwythur i sut mae'r gwaith yna'n mynd i gychwyn.
English: I just wanted to say: we won't be contributing to those costs, in terms of the £900,000. As the Presiding Officer says, the Commission has its own funding that will be targeted in a way that's consistent with the objectives.
Welsh: Roeddwn i jest eisiau dweud: fyddwn ni ddim yn cyfrannu tuag at y costau yna, y £900,000. Fel mae'r Llywydd yn ei ddweud, fe fydd gan y Comisiwn ei arian ei hun fydd yn cael ei dargedu mewn ffordd sy'n gyson â'r amcanion.
English: Okay. I don't want to pursue that any further - I think we've given that enough of an airing. But just to return to these figures from the Government in terms of raising awareness. The letter was received on 30 January. The Bill was tabled on 12 February. I suspect that you thought there wasn't enough time to include them in the RIA.
Welsh: Ocê. Dwi ddim eisiau mynd ar ôl hwnna ymhellach - dwi'n credu ein bod ni wedi gwyntyllu hwnna. Ond jest i fynd nôl at y ffigurau yma gan y Llywodraeth ynglŷn â chodi ymwybyddiaeth, felly. Fe dderbyniwyd y llythyr ar 30 Ionawr. Gwnaethoch chi osod y Bil ar 12 Chwefror. Dwi'n tybio nad oeddech chi ddim yn teimlo bod yna ddigon o amser i'w cynnwys nhw, felly, yn yr asesiad effaith rheoleiddiol.
English: That assumption is correct, but I will ask an official. But I would refer to the point that I made earlier, of course, that the figures that we have in the Bill refer to extending the franchise to 16 and 17-year-olds for the 2021 election; the figures for the Government's expenditure are for a more comprehensive programme in terms of their work over a period of three years. So, the read across isn't direct in that regard.
Welsh: Rwy'n tybio bod hwnna'n gywir, ond gwnaf ofyn i swyddog. Ond byddwn i'n mynd yn ôl at y pwynt gwnes i ynghynt, wrth gwrs: mae'r ffigurau sydd gyda ni yn y Bil yn cyfeirio at ymestyn yr etholfraint i 16 ac 17 ar gyfer etholiadau 2021; mae'r ffigurau dwi newydd eu cyflwyno, gwaith y Llywodraeth, yn rhaglen fwy cynhwysfawr na hynny o'u gwaith nhw dros gyfnod o dair blynedd. Felly, dyw'r read across ddim yn uniongyrchol.
English: So, just to be clear, if an amended RIA were to be tabled, would you be looking to include any relevant elements stemming from the Government's figures on that?
Welsh: Felly, jest i fod yn glir, petai yna asesiad effaith rheoleiddiol diwygiedig yn cael ei gyflwyno, a fyddech chi'n edrych i gynnwys unrhyw elfennau perthnasol sy'n deillio o ffigurau y Llywodraeth yn hwnnw, efallai?
English: We would have to look at what percentage of that spend we could say was relevant to the work of this Bill. So, again, we would be reliant on Government to provide that assessment to us.
Welsh: Byddai'n rhaid inni edrych ar sut dŷn ni'n edrych ar ba ganran o'r gost yna y buasem ni'n medru dweud sy'n berthnasol i waith y Bil yma. Felly, buasem ni eto'n ddibynnol ar y Llywodraeth i roi'r asesiad yna i ni.
English: To provide that, yes.
Welsh: I ddarparu hynny, ie.
English: But, certainly, we can discuss that further with them. It has been difficult to get accurate figures in that regard that include percentages.
Welsh: Ond, yn sicr, gallwn ni drafod hynny ymhellach gyda nhw. Mae wedi bod yn anodd cael y ffigurau sydd yn dod â chanrannau i mewn.
English: Okay. Thank you very much. We've discussed the costs of registering 16-year-olds at length, so we'll go on perhaps, Rhun, to oversight of the Electoral Commission.
Welsh: Ocê. Diolch am hynny. Dŷn ni wedi gwyntyllu tipyn ar gostau cofrestru pobl 16 oed, felly fe awn ni ymlaen efallai, Rhun, i oruchwylio'r Comisiwn Etholiadol.
English: This committee has been critical of the Government in the past for making changes at Stage 2 that have financial implications - implications that are sometimes significant. Could you explain the changes or amendments that you, at this point, intend to introduce at Stage 2 in terms of the oversight arrangements of the Electoral Commission?
Welsh: Mae'r pwyllgor yma wedi bod yn feirniadol o Lywodraeth yn y gorffennol am wneud newidiadau yng Nghyfnod 2 sydd â goblygiadau ariannol, weithiau sylweddol, iddyn nhw. A wnewch chi egluro'r newidiadau neu'r gwelliannau dŷch chi, ar y pwynt yma, yn bwriadu eu cyflwyno yng Nghyfnod 2 o ran trefniadau goruchwylio y Comisiwn Etholiadol?
English: To return to the Wales Act 2017, this is where the powers were provided to us for the first time, as an Assembly, to legislate on financial issues and issues related to the oversight of the Electoral Commission. Following that, there was a debate commenced between myself, the Electoral Commission and then the Welsh Government too on delivering this within the proposed Bills. And there are two Bills, of course: the Government's Bill on local government and the Commission's Bill on Assembly elections. We reached the conclusion - and it was quite late in the day to be included in this Bill in a meaningful way in terms of its introduction - that it was through this Bill that we could consider introducing amendments at Stage 2. In introducing the Bill and before introducing the Bill, I made that intention clear: that we were considering this and that we hoped that committees, in taking evidence at Stage 1, would be discussing these issues, and the Electoral Commission, clearly, has a contribution to make in that regard. So, I accept that, ideally, we would say that this should have been included in a comprehensive Bill from the very outset, but of course, we are working to a timetable and we have elections on the horizon, and if we do want to introduce the change to the franchise, then we have to work to a very specific timetable to do that. We could have considered a separate Bill for that - we did consider that - but, of course, we did feel that an entirely separate Bill just to introduce these arrangements would possibly not be the most appropriate way when we had an opportunity to legislate through this Bill.
Welsh: I fynd nôl i Ddeddf Cymru 2017, dyna le deilliodd y pwerau am y tro cyntaf i ni, fel Cynulliad, fod â'r hawl i ddeddfu ar faterion ariannol a throsolwg o'r Comisiwn Etholiadol. Yn dilyn hynny, fe fuodd yna gychwyn ar drafodaeth rhyngof i, rhwng y Comisiwn Etholiadol ac yna Llywodraeth Cymru hefyd ar wireddu hyn o fewn y Mesurau arfaethedig. Ac mae dau Fesur, wrth gwrs: mae un y Llywodraeth ar lywodraeth leol ac un y Comisiwn ar etholiadau'r Cynulliad. Fe ddaethpwyd i'r casgliad - ac yr oedd hi braidd yn hwyr yn y dydd i gyrraedd y Mesur yma mewn ffordd lawn ar gyfer cyflwyno'r Mesur - taw drwy'r Mesur yma y gellid ystyried cyflwyno gwelliannau yn ystod Cyfnod 2. Wrth gyflwyno'r Mesur a chyn cyflwyno'r Mesur, fe wnes i'r bwriad yna'n glir: ein bod ni'n ystyried hyn a'n bod ni'n gobeithio y byddai pwyllgorau, wrth gymryd tystiolaeth yn ystod Cyfnod 1, yn trafod y materion yma, ac mae gan y Comisiwn Etholiadol, yn amlwg, gyfraniad i'w wneud yn hynny o beth. Felly, dwi'n derbyn, yn ddelfrydol, y byddwn i'n dweud y dylai hyn fod yn rhan o Fil sydd yn llawn o'r cychwyn, ond, wrth gwrs, mae gennym ni amserlen ac mae gennym ni etholiadau, ac os ydyn ni eisiau cyflwyno newid yn yr etholfraint, fe oedd yna amserlen benodol i'w chwrdd â hi. Gallem ni fod wedi ystyried Mesur ar wahân ar gyfer hynny - gwnaethon ni feddwl am hynny - ond, wrth gwrs, roeddem ni'n teimlo bod Mesur cyfan gwbl ar wahân dim ond ar gyfer cyflwyno'r trefniadau yma o bosib ddim y ffordd fwyaf priodol pan fod gennym ni'r cyfle i ddeddfu drwy'r Mesur yma.
English: And given that we're not in an ideal situation with everything in place, what will you do to ensure that there's enough opportunity to ensure transparency and to scrutinise the new estimates that come before us?
Welsh: Gan nad ydyn ni mewn sefyllfa ddelfrydol lle roedd popeth yno, beth fyddwch chi'n ei wneud i sicrhau bod yna ddigon o gyfle i sicrhau tryloywder ac i graffu ar yr amcangyfrifon newydd a ddaw?
English: This committee will take a view, as will the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee, on some of these issues as to how the legislation and the amendments should be introduced, and the Welsh Government will also take a view on that, of course. But, in bringing forward amendments at Stage 2, if we were to do that, then the financial assessment will also have to be introduced in full along with that.
Welsh: Fe fydd yna farn gan y pwyllgor yma a'r Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol hefyd ar rai o'r materion yma ynglŷn â sut y dylid cyflwyno'r union ddeddfwriaeth a'r gwelliannau, a Llywodraeth Cymru hefyd, wrth gwrs. Ond, wrth gwrs, o gyflwyno gwelliannau yn ystod Cyfnod 2, os byddwn ni'n gwneud hynny, fe fydd yn rhaid i'r asesiad ariannol gael ei gyflwyno'n llawn wrth ochr hynny.
English: Could I just ask, then, in terms of funding the Electoral Commission? Will it be funded through the Assembly Commission budget, or as a direct payment through the Welsh consolidated fund?
Welsh: Gaf i jest ofyn, te, ynglŷn ag ariannu'r Comisiwn Etholiadol? A fydd e'n cael ei ariannu drwy gyllideb Comisiwn y Cynulliad, neu fel tâl uniongyrchol o gronfa gyfunol Cymru, y consolidated fund?
English: Well, we're currently doing some work on how this work, how these responsibilities can be brought forward, and the funding that will be provided to the Commission from the consolidated fund. I think direct funding of the Electoral Commission from the consolidated fund is not possible - I think I'm right in saying that. So how do we anticipate that this will happen? I'll ask that question. [ Laughter.]
Welsh: Wel, rŷn ni wrthi'n gwneud rhywfaint o waith ar sut gallai'r gwaith yma gael ei gyflwyno, y cyfrifoldebau yma gael eu cyflwyno, a'r ariannu a fydd yn dod i'r Comisiwn o'r consolidated fund. Dyw ariannu uniongyrchol o'r Comisiwn Etholiadol o'r consolidated fund ddim yn bosib - dwi'n meddwl fy mod i'n gywir i ddweud hynny. Felly, sut ŷn ni'n rhagweld y bydd hyn yn digwydd? I fi gael ofyn cwestiwn ohonot ti. [ Chwerthin.]
English: Thank you for asking a question. [ Laughter.]
Welsh: Diolch am ofyn cwestiwn. [ Chwerthin.]