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English: We know the initial rate the Government is setting when it comes to land transaction tax, and it does seem odd to have this debate on this hugely important principle, which I broadly support, but we can't do anything to set the original rate. So, you can go high, you can go middle, you can go low. We can't say. You'll have this power immediately from regulation to do that and that does not get the full force of scrutiny in this Chamber, as you well know.
Welsh: Rydym ni'n gwybod beth yw'r gyfradd gychwynnol y mae'r Llywodraeth yn ei gosod o ran treth trafodiadau tir ac mae hi yn ymddangos yn rhyfedd i gael y ddadl hon ar yr egwyddor hynod o bwysig hon, rwy'n gefnogol iddo ar y cyfan, ond ni allwn ni wneud unrhyw beth i osod y gyfradd wreiddiol. Felly, fe allwch chi ei osod yn uchel, tua'r canol, neu yn isel. Allwn ni ddim dweud dim ynghylch hynny. Bydd gennych chi'r pŵer hwn ar unwaith o dan y rheoliad i wneud hynny ac all y Siambr hon ddim craffu ar hynny mewn manylder, fel y gwyddoch chi'n dda.
English: I'll briefly respond, Presiding Officer, because, as I've said on a number of occasions, we are committed to undertaking a significant amount of consultation before setting the initial minimum unit price that Ministers will recommend and this place will have to decide whether to support or not. I believe that that is an entirely appropriate method and an entirely appropriate way to proceed, and I look forward to implementing a minimum unit price regime across Wales to make real public health gains in every single community.
Welsh: Fe wnaf i ymateb yn fyr, Llywydd, oherwydd, fel yr wyf i wedi dweud ar sawl achlysur, rydym ni wedi ymrwymo i wneud cryn dipyn o ymgynghori cyn gosod yr isafbris uned cychwynnol y bydd Gweinidogion yn ei argymell ac y bydd angen i'r lle hwn benderfynu a ddylid ei gefnogi neu beidio. Rwy'n credu fod hynny yn ddull cwbl briodol ac yn ffordd gwbl briodol i fwrw ymlaen, ac rwy'n edrych ymlaen at weithredu cyfundrefn isafbris uned ledled Cymru i wneud cynnydd gwirioneddol yn iechyd y cyhoedd ym mhob un cymuned.
English: You said that you fear that this will hit a particular group disproportionately. You know what? You're right. This Bill, this piece of legislation, will hit disproportionately the people who drink too much very strong high-volume alcohol and who are harming their health in the process. And it will affect disproportionately the chances that young people will start drinking high alcohol high-volume drinks in the same way that high cigarette prices are part of the weaponry in public health to try to tackle smoking amongst young people. So, we have to be realistic about who it is we are trying to help through this legislation. We are looking to create as much armoury as we can when it comes to improving the health of our nation, and this is one element.
Welsh: Fe wnaethoch chi ddweud eich bod yn ofni y bydd hyn yn taro grŵp penodol yn anghymesur. Wyddoch chi beth? Rydych chi'n gywir. Bydd y Bil hwn, y darn hwn o ddeddfwriaeth, yn rhoi ergyd anghymesur i bobl sy'n yfed gormod o alcohol cyfaint uchel cryf iawn ac sy'n niweidio eu hiechyd wrth wneud hynny. A bydd yn effeithio'n anghymesur ar y siawns y bydd pobl ifanc yn dechrau yfed diodydd cyfaint uchel o alcohol yn yr un modd ag y mae prisiau uchel ar sigaréts yn rhan o'r arfogaeth ym maes iechyd y cyhoedd i geisio mynd i'r afael ag ysmygu ymhlith pobl ifanc. Felly, mae'n rhaid inni fod yn realistig ynghylch pwy rydym ni'n ceisio eu helpu drwy'r ddeddfwriaeth hon. Rydym ni'n ceisio creu cymaint o arfogaeth ag y gallwn ni o ran gwella iechyd ein cenedl, a dyma un elfen.
English: The question is that amendment 4 be agreed to. Is there any objection? [ Objection.] We will proceed, therefore, to an electronic vote on amendment 4. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 17, four abstaining, 29 against. Therefore, amendment 4 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 4? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn, felly, i bleidlais electronig ar welliant 4. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 17, pedwar yn ymatal, 29 yn erbyn. Felly, gwrthodwyd gwelliant 4.
English: The question is that amendment 1 be agreed to. Is there any objection? [ Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote on amendment 1. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 17, four abstentions, 29 against. Amendment 1 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 1? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig ar welliant 1. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 17, pedwar yn ymatal, 29 yn erbyn. Gwrthodwyd gwelliant 1.
English: The next group of amendments is the group in relation to the report on operation and effect of the Act. Amendment 2 is the lead amendment in the group, and I call on Angela Burns to move and speak to this amendment and the other amendment in the group. Angela Burns.
Welsh: Y grŵp nesaf o welliannau yw'r grŵp sy'n ymwneud â'r adroddiad ar weithrediad ac effaith y Ddeddf. Gwelliant 2 yw'r prif welliant yn y grŵp yma, ac rydw i'n galw ar Angela Burns i gynnig y prif welliant ac i siarad am y gwelliant yma a'r gwelliant arall yn y grŵp. Angela Burns.
English: The question is that amendment 2 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote on amendment 2 tabled in the name of Angela Burns. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 17, four abstentions, 29 against. Therefore, amendment 2 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 2? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig ar welliant 2 yn enw Angela Burns. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 17, pedwar yn ymatal, 29 yn erbyn. Felly, gwrthodwyd gwelliant 2.
English: The question is that amendment 5 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote, therefore, on amendment 5. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 45, four abstentions, one against. Therefore, amendment 5 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 5. A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig, felly, ar welliant 5. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 45, pedwar yn ymatal, un yn erbyn. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 5.
English: The next group of amendments is group 3, and this group of amendments relates to the limitation of profit-making opportunities. Amendment 6 is the lead and only amendment in this group, and I call on Rhun ap Iorwerth to move and speak to his amendment. Rhun ap Iorwerth.
Welsh: Y grŵp nesaf o welliannau yw grŵp 3, ac mae'r grŵp yma o welliannau yn ymwneud â chyfyngu ar y cyfleoedd gwneud elw. Gwelliant 6 yw'r prif welliant, a'r unig welliant, yn y grŵp yma. Rydw i'n galw ar Rhun ap Iorwerth i gynnig y gwelliant a gynigiwyd yn ei enw ef. Rhun ap Iorwerth.
English: We will not be supporting amendment 6. We feel that the terminology is highly subjective and is unsuitable for the face of a Bill. The Cabinet Secretary did state at Stage 2 that the Welsh Government was already working with the Welsh Retail Consortium on this issue and was awaiting Wales-specific evidence to identify the impact this legislation will have on both public health and business profits, and we are content to wait for such an analysis. You are absolutely right, Rhun ap Iorwerth: there may well be additional profits made by retailers. There may also be additional costs by retailers. There may also be different ways of being able to look at this whole and bring back moneys into the public purse to help to defray the costs of this Bill or, indeed, to support what I would like to see supported, which is alcohol and drug treatment centres. So, we will not be taking this forward. We do have a concern that this legislation may have unintended consequences, but with the monitoring in place that the Welsh Government has undertaken, this should address such concerns.
Welsh: Ni fyddwn ni'n cefnogi gwelliant 6. Rydym ni'n teimlo bod y derminoleg yn oddrychol iawn ac yn anaddas ar gyfer wyneb y Bil. Nododd Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet yng Nghyfnod 2 bod Llywodraeth Cymru eisoes yn gweithio gyda Chonsortiwm Manwerthu Cymru ar y mater hwn ac yn aros am dystiolaeth benodol i Gymru i nodi'r effaith y bydd y ddeddfwriaeth hon yn ei chael ar iechyd y cyhoedd ac elw busnes, ac rydym yn hapus i aros am y dadansoddiad hwnnw. Rydych chi yn llygad eich lle, Rhun ap Iorwerth: efallai'n wir y bydd elw ychwanegol i fanwerthwyr. Efallai hefyd y bydd costau ychwanegol i fanwerthwyr. Efallai hefyd fod yna ffyrdd gwahanol o allu ystyried hyn yn ei gyfanrwydd a dod ag arian yn ôl i'r pwrs cyhoeddus i helpu i dalu costau'r Bil hwn neu, yn wir, i gefnogi yr hyn yr hoffwn ei weld yn cael eu cefnogi, sef canolfannau triniaeth ar gyfer alcohol a chyffuriau. Felly, ni fyddwn yn bwrw ymlaen â hyn. Mae gennym bryder y bydd i'r ddeddfwriaeth hon efallai ganlyniadau anfwriadol, ond fe ddylai'r monitro sydd ar waith gan Lywodraeth Cymru ymdrin â phryderon o'r fath.
English: Thank you very much for your responses and your comments on this amendment. I think that, in my opening remarks, I did say that we had been unable to do what we truly wanted to here, but that we did feel that it was very important to bring forward an amendment that would keep this issue alive into the future. It doesn't surprise me, in a way, that you, as other parties, have been able to find weaknesses in the way that we brought forward this amendment, because this is an issue that it isn't easy to find a solution for. Nonetheless, we will push it to a vote, and during that vote we will show how determined we are as a party to keep the pressure on, to seek and find a process in the future, with, hopefully, additional powers coming to this place, where we can draw money into the Welsh Treasury to spend on health measures and to address alcoholism and problems with drinking. May I express my appreciation that the Cabinet Secretary himself does see a benefit in trying to draw in this money? The way that he wishes to look into it is to develop some sort of voluntary levy. I am sure that we will play our part in scrutinising that type of levy as it is developed. But, certainly, we know that there will be additional profits being made as a result of this Bill, should it be passed, and there is a need to use every opportunity to ensure that the pockets of the large supermarkets do not grow larger because of that money. And if it is possible that we can divert that money to spend on improving the health of our nation, then we should seek ways to do so.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn am eich ymatebion chi a'ch sylwadau chi ar y gwelliant yma. Rydw i'n meddwl, yn fy sylwadau agoriadol, beth ddywedais a oedd ein bod ni mewn difrif wedi methu â chyflawni'r hyn yr oeddem ni wirioneddol eisiau ei wneud yn fan hyn, ond roeddem ni yn credu ei bod hi'n bwysig iawn cyflwyno gwelliant a fyddai'n trio cadw'r mater yma yn fyw at y dyfodol. Nid oedd yn fy synnu, mewn ffordd, eich bod chi, fel pleidiau eraill, yn gallu ffeindio gwendidau yn y ffordd y gwnaethom ni gyflwyno'r gwelliant yma oherwydd bod hwn yn fater nad yw'n hawdd ffeindio datrysiad iddo fo. Serch hynny, mi awn ni i bleidlais, ac mi nodwn ni yn y bleidlais honno, fel plaid, pa mor benderfynol ydym ni o gadw'r pwysau am chwilio am broses a fydd yn y dyfodol, efo pwerau ychwanegol yn dod i'r lle yma, gobeithio, lle gallwn ni dynnu arian i mewn i'r Trysorlys Cymreig i'w wario ar fesurau iechyd a brwydro goryfed ac alcoholiaeth. Ac mi wnaf i hefyd nodi fy ngwerthfawrogiad bod yr Ysgrifennydd Cabinet yntau yn gweld budd mewn ceisio hawlio'r arian yma nôl. Y ffordd y mae o'n dymuno edrych i mewn iddo fo ydy datblygu rhyw fath o levy wirfoddol. Mi chwaraewn ni, rydw i'n siŵr, ein rhan mewn sgrwtineiddio'r math yna o levy wrth iddi gael ei datblygu. Ond, yn sicr, rydym ni'n gwybod y bydd yna broffidio, bydd yna elwa ychwanegol yn sgil y Mesur yma os daw yn Ddeddf, ac mae angen defnyddio pob cyfle i sicrhau nad i bocedi archfarchnadoedd mawr y mae'r arian yna'n mynd. Ac os oes modd tynnu'r arian hwnnw i'w wario ar fentrau i wella iechyd ein cenedl ni, yna y dylid chwilio am ffyrdd o sicrhau hynny.
English: The question is that amendment 6 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] We'll proceed to an electronic vote on amendment 6. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 7, four abstentions, 39 against. And therefore amendment 6 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 6? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig ar welliant 6. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 7, pedwar yn ymatal, 39 yn erbyn. Ac felly gwrthodwyd gwelliant 6.
English: Not moved.
Welsh: Ni chynigir.
English: Therefore, with the Assembly's consent, we won't consider that amendment, unless anybody opposes the fact that it isn't being moved.
Welsh: Ac felly, gyda chydsyniad y Cynulliad, wnawn ni ddim cymryd y gwelliant hwnnw, os nad oes unrhyw un yn gwrthwynebu i'r ffaith nad yw e'n cael ei symud.
English: So, we move on to group 4, the final group of amendments, relating to promoting public awareness of minimum pricing of alcohol. Amendment 7 is the lead amendment in this group, and I call on Rhun ap Iorwerth to move and speak to the lead amendment in his name. Rhun ap Iorwerth.
Welsh: Felly, rŷm ni'n symud ymlaen nawr at grŵp 4, y grŵp olaf o welliannau, sy'n ymwneud â hybu ymwybyddiaeth y cyhoedd o'r isafbris am alcohol. Gwelliant 7 yw'r prif welliant yn y grŵp yma, ac rydw i'n galw ar Rhun ap Iorwerth i gynnig y prif welliant yn ei enw e. Rhun ap Iorwerth.
English: We will be supporting both amendments 7 and 8. At Stage 2, my colleague Suzy Davies raised concerns that the promotion plan was yet to be shared, which is of great concern to us, and we need to take every opportunity that we can to reinforce the public health message. We all talk about it here an awful lot; we need to start talking about it out there.
Welsh: Byddwn ni'n cefnogi gwelliannau 7 ac 8. Yng Nghyfnod 2, cododd fy nghyd-Aelod Suzy Davies bryderon nad oedd y cynllun hyrwyddo wedi'i rannu hyd yn hyn, sy'n peri pryder mawr i ni, ac mae angen inni fanteisio ar bob cyfle posibl i atgyfnerthu'r neges o ran iechyd y cyhoedd. Rydym ni i gyd yn sôn llawer iawn amdano yn y fan hon; mae angen inni ddechrau sôn amdano allan yn y fan yna hefyd.
English: Very briefly, politics and politicians can be accused sometimes of being out of touch with the public who elect us. It is an accusation that may be fair at times, and sometimes I believe it can be unfair. But, in this case, with this amendment, what we have is a bridge, directly between this piece of legislation that we are discussing as parliamentarians and our electors - the people of Wales, who will live with and come to understand, I'm sure, this legislation, in due course, because of the communication that will take place by including these amendments on the face of the Bill. I move the amendments formally.
Welsh: Yn fyr iawn, mae gwleidyddiaeth a gwleidyddion yn gallu cael ein cyhuddo weithiau o fod allan o gysylltiad â'r cyhoedd sy'n ein hethol ni. Mae'n gyhuddiad, rwy'n siŵr, sy'n deg weithiau ac yn annheg droeon eraill. Ond, yn yr achos yma, efo'r gwelliant yma, beth sydd gennym ni ydy pont uniongyrchol rhwng y darn yma o ddeddfwriaeth rŷm ni'n ei drafod fel seneddwyr ac ein hetholwyr ni - pobl Cymru a fydd yn byw efo ac yn dod i ddeall, rwy'n siŵr, y ddeddfwriaeth yma, maes o law, oherwydd y cyfathrebu fydd yn digwydd drwy gynnwys y gwelliant yma ar wyneb y Bil. Rwy'n cynnig y gwelliannau yn ffurfiol.
English: The question is that amendment 7 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote on amendment 7. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 45, four abstentions, one against. Therefore, amendment 7 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 7? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig ar welliant 7. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 45, pedwar yn ymatal, un yn erbyn. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 7.
English: Formally. The question is that amendment 8 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote on amendment 8. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 45, four abstentions, one against. Therefore, amendment 8 is agreed.
Welsh: Yn ffurfiol. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 8? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad. [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn felly i bleidlais electronig ar welliant 8. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 45, pedwar yn ymatal, un yn erbyn. Derbyniwyd gwelliant 8.
English: We have, therefore, reached the end of our Stage 3 consideration of the Public Health (Minimum Price for Alcohol) (Wales) Bill and I declare that all sections and Schedules of the Bill are deemed agreed.
Welsh: Dyma ni felly wedi dod i ddiwedd ystyriaeth Cyfnod 3 o Fil Iechyd y Cyhoedd (Isafbris am Alcohol) (Cymru) ac rwy'n datgan y bernir pob adran o'r Bil a phob Atodlen wedi'u derbyn.
English: And that concludes the Stage 3 proceedings.
Welsh: A dyna ni'n dod â thrafodion Cyfnod 3 y prynhawn yma i ben.
English: It's just picking up from that final point that you made. What you're saying is that there are two Acts, and so there are two boards. But really, would it not make more sense for us to have the strategic work taking place at the PSB level, and the delivery, then, if you are going to make a difference, happening through the Part 9 board? Is there a way - and I do accept that we're talking about two pieces of legislation - of reconciling them or bringing them together? Does what I'm suggesting make sense, and is there a point in looking at whether we can do this in this manner, just so that the two things align together better?
Welsh: Jest i bigo fyny o'r pwynt olaf, mewn ffordd. Beth rydych chi'n ei ddweud ydy bod yna ddwy Ddeddf, ac felly mae yna ddau fwrdd. Ond mewn gwirionedd, oni fyddai'n gwneud mwy o synnwyr i ni fod efo'r gwaith strategol yn digwydd drwy lefel y PSB, a'r delivery wedyn, os ydych chi'n mynd i wneud gwahaniaeth, drwy'r bwrdd Rhan 9? A oes yna ffordd - ac rwy'n derbyn fod yna ddau ddarn o ddeddfwriaeth - o drio dod â nhw at ei gilydd? A ydy o'n gwneud synnwyr, beth rwy'n ei awgrymu, ac a oes pwrpas trio gweld os oes yna ffordd o'i wneud o fel yna, jest er mwyn ei wneud o'n fwy - bod y ddau beth yn alinio â'i gilydd yn well?
English: I can speak Welsh,
Welsh: Rwy'n gallu siarad Cymraeg,
English: I was just going to raise a question in relation to engagement and the consultation process. Obviously, you have a role to help that happen, but do you feel as if the boards, across Wales, have done enough consultation with stakeholders and citizens? Who would like to begin?
Welsh: Roeddwn i'n mynd i jest godi cwestiynau ynglŷn ag ymgysylltu ac ymgynghori. Yn amlwg, mae gennych chi rôl i helpu hynny i ddigwydd, ond a ydych chi'n teimlo bod y byrddau, ar draws Cymru rŵan, wedi gwneud digon o drafod efo rhanddeiliaid a dinasyddion? Pwy sy'n mynd i ddechrau?
English: Good morning, and welcome to this meeting of the Finance Committee. I welcome everyone to the meeting. Could I just remind Members that interpretation is available on channel 1 and amplification on channel 0? Could you put any electronic devices on mute, please, particularly those who have had new phones recently and forgotten to turn them off in committees? Do any Members have any declarations of interest to make? No. We're okay, I think, at the start of the meeting.
Welsh: Bore da, a chroeso i gyfarfod y Pwyllgor Cyllid. Rwy'n croesawu pawb i'r cyfarfod. A gaf fi jest atgoffa Aelodau bod cyfieithu ar y pryd, wrth gwrs, ar gael - cyfieithu ar sianel 1, a'r sain wreiddiol ar sianel 0? A wnewch chi dawelu unrhyw ddyfeisiadau electronig, yn enwedig y rhai sydd wedi cael ffonau newydd yn ddiweddar ac efallai yn anghofio eu troi nhw off mewn pwyllgorau? A oes gan unrhyw Aelodau fuddiannau i'w datgan? Buddiannau. Na. Rŷm ni'n ocê, rydw i'n meddwl, ar ddechrau'r cyfarfod.
English: While we're waiting for the Minister to arrive - he has a meeting until 9 a.m., I know that - we'll just look at the papers to note. Could I ask you to note the papers that are presented, starting with a letter from the Secretary of State to me, on your behalf, on the inquiry that we're doing this morning into what will replace EU funding for Wales post Brexit? The letter states that the Secretary of State, Alun Cairns, is not willing to come to give evidence to the committee. I'm disappointed about that because it means that we won't have the UK Government's perspective in the evidence to the committee. So, I don't know whether Members have any comments to make about that. I would propose that we at least write back to the Secretary of State and ask for written evidence from him. David.
Welsh: Tra ein bod ni'n aros i'r Gweinidog gyrraedd - mae gyda fe gyfarfod tan 9 a.m., rwy'n gwybod hynny - gwnawn ni jest edrych ar y papurau i nodi. A gaf fi ofyn ichi ystyried a nodi papurau sydd wedi'u cyflwyno, gan ddechrau gyda llythyr gan yr Ysgrifennydd Gwladol ataf fi, ar eich rhan chi, ynglŷn â'r ymchwiliad rŷm ni'n ei gynnal ac yn ei wneud y bore yma ynglŷn â beth fydd yn disodli ffrydiau cyllido'r Undeb Ewropeaidd ar ôl gadael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd? Mae'r llythyr yn datgan nad yw'r Ysgrifennydd Gwladol, Alun Cairns, yn fodlon dod i roi tystiolaeth i'r pwyllgor. Rydw i'n siomedig yn hynny o beth achos mae'n golygu nad oes gyda ni agwedd Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Gyfunol yn y pwyllgor ac yn y dystiolaeth, felly. Nid ydw i'n gwybod a oes gan Aelodau unrhyw sylwadau ar hynny. Byddwn i'n cynnig ein bod ni o leiaf yn ysgrifennu yn ôl at yr Ysgrifennydd Gwladol yn gofyn am dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig ganddo fe. David.