English: I'm grateful, Deputy Presiding Officer. I'm grateful to the Minister as well for his statement and I've been enjoying the discussion that's taking place here, but I find that the discussion is all about what Government is doing, and nobody has asked, 'Why is Government doing this?' I wonder whether Government has asked that question itself, because I've looked throughout the statements you've made through the programme for government, and I can't see any statement of intent. What is the point or purpose of policy, for example? It's surprising that there is no mention of poverty in your policy at the moment. Now, if the reduction of poverty were a driver of policy, then you would take different decisions than if, for example - . Simply an emphasis on growth or GDP would drive very different decisions again. And unless we understand what the purpose of policy is, it's very difficult for us to hold you to account, Minister, and, at the same time, I see no objectives or targets of policy. So, you know, we've seen and there has been agreement across the Chamber that we want to see a fairer Wales, a greener Wales and the rest of it, but there is no idea anywhere about what that actually means in practice. What is the objective that you're seeking to achieve? How will you know if you've achieved a fairer Wales? How will we hold you to account for doing that? There is no timetable. There are no deadlines. There are no targets in the policy. And therefore, I find myself, both as a member of the Welsh Labour Party and as a Member of this place, at a bit of a loss as to how, over the four years, we can hold you to account for what you're saying today, what you said in October, what was published by the Government in December, and how, by the end of this five-year period, we will know, or you will know, whether you've achieved any of these ambitions or not.
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar, Dirprwy Lywydd. Rwy'n ddiolchgar i'r Gweinidog hefyd am ei ddatganiad ac yr wyf i wedi bod yn mwynhau'r drafodaeth sy'n digwydd yma, ond gwelaf i fod y drafodaeth yn ymwneud â'r hyn y mae'r Llywodraeth yn ei wneud, ac nid oes neb wedi gofyn, 'Pam mae'r Llywodraeth yn gwneud hyn?' Tybed a yw'r Llywodraeth wedi gofyn y cwestiwn hwnnw ei hun, oherwydd yr wyf i wedi edrych drwy gydol y datganiadau yr ydych wedi'u gwneud drwy'r rhaglen lywodraethu, ac ni allaf i weld unrhyw ddatganiad o fwriad. Beth yw pwynt neu ddiben polisi, er enghraifft? Mae'n syndod nad oes sôn am dlodi yn eich polisi ar hyn o bryd. Nawr, pe bai lleihau tlodi yn sbardun i bolisi, yna byddech chi'n gwneud penderfyniadau gwahanol na phe baech, er enghraifft yn - . Byddai pwyslais ar dwf neu gynnyrch domestig gros yn llywio penderfyniadau gwahanol iawn eto. Ac oni bai ein bod ni'n deall beth yw diben polisi, mae'n anodd iawn i ni eich dwyn i gyfrif, Gweinidog, ac, ar yr un pryd, ni welaf unrhyw amcanion na thargedau polisi. Felly, yr ydym ni wedi gweld, ac mae cytundeb wedi bod ar draws y Siambr ein bod ni eisiau gweld Cymru decach, Cymru wyrddach ac ati, ond nid oes syniad yn unman ynghylch yr hyn y mae hynny'n ei olygu'n ymarferol mewn gwirionedd. Beth yw'r amcan yr ydych chi'n ceisio'i gyflawni? Sut y byddwch chi'n gwybod a ydych chi wedi cyflawni Cymru decach? Sut y byddwn ni'n eich dwyn i gyfrif am wneud hynny? Nid oes amserlen. Nid oes terfynau amser. Nid oes targedau yn y polisi. Ac felly, yr wyf i'n cael fy hun, fel aelod o Blaid Lafur Cymru ac fel Aelod o'r lle hwn, yn methu deall sut, yn ystod y pedair blynedd, y gallwn ni eich dwyn chi i gyfrif am yr hyn yr ydych chi'n ei ddweud heddiw, yr hyn a ddywedoch chi ym mis Hydref, yr hyn a gafodd ei gyhoeddi gan y Llywodraeth ym mis Rhagfyr, a sut, erbyn diwedd y cyfnod hwn o bum mlynedd, y byddwn ni'n gwybod, neu y byddwch chi'n gwybod, a ydych chi wedi cyflawni unrhyw un o'r uchelgeisiau hyn ai peidio.