English: Thank you, Llywydd. I think that helps explain something for me. I think we genuinely have a misunderstanding. What this Bill is about is the checking of eligibility and the application, through the mechanism of HMRC, of eligibility for parents to access the childcare offer. What you were talking about, Janet, then was the aspect of actually delivering the offer. I will be back in front of Assembly Members - well, if I'm still in this post - some time in the future when we come to the full roll-out to do what local authorities have asked us to do, which is then to put in place the structure of how we actually co-ordinate delivery across the whole of Wales. It's separate. So, let me just turn to the amendments here. You rightly restate what I've said previously in terms of amendment 26 - I don't see what's to be gained by restating a duty that local authorities already have in respect of ensuring sufficient childcare is available within their areas. The existing duty, as you said, is also broader than what is proposed, as it requires local authorities to have regard to the need for childcare suitable for disabled children, and for childcare using the Welsh language. Amendment 27 seems to be seeking to bring within the scope of subordinate legislation much of the operational detail we're planning to include in the administrative scheme. We're going to learn, we're going to continue to learn, from experience with this offer, and the administrative scheme is exactly the mechanism that gives us the important flexibility to adjust and review those administrative, operational, front-end arrangements as we go. The administrative scheme is not some excuse to hide issues from Assembly Members. I've already brought it forward in framework form to share with Members, and I would genuinely welcome further scrutiny of the scheme in the spring. In terms of amendment 28, I'd like to reiterate what I've said previously about the need for providers to be registered and inspected to take part in the offer. We've always been clear about that and our reasons for this. And simply to refer to the remarks you made in closing a moment ago on the previous bunch of amendments: if there are relatives, grandparents and others out there who want to actually make use of this scheme - including in provision for their own children as well as others, because I've seen some very good provision of people operating in houses with six children, two of which are maybe their own grandchildren and so on - they can do that. They just need to register as well. And there are grandparents who do that, I have to say. Now, I think we should also keep in mind that there are already a suite of standards that childcare providers are required to comply with. They're fully detailed in our national minimum standards, and they were only revised, in fact, in April 2016. So, on this basis, with those explanations, I hope that's explained why we can't support amendments 26, 27 or 28.
Welsh: Diolch ichi, Lywydd. Credaf fod hynny'n helpu i egluro rhywbeth i mi. Credaf o ddifrif fod gennym gamddealltwriaeth. Yr hyn y mae'r Bil hwn yn ei wneud yw gwirio cymhwysedd rhieni, drwy fecanwaith CThEM, i fanteisio ar y cynnig gofal plant. Yr hyn roeddech chi'n sôn amdano yno, Janet, oedd yr agwedd o ddarparu'r cynnig mewn gwirionedd. Byddaf yn ôl o flaen Aelodau'r Cynulliad - wel, os wyf yn dal i fod yn y swydd hon - rywbryd yn y dyfodol pan fyddwn yn cyflwyno'r hyn y mae awdurdodau lleol wedi gofyn inni ei wneud, sef gosod strwythur y ffordd yr ydym yn cydgysylltu'r ddarpariaeth ar draws Cymru gyfan mewn gwirionedd. Mae hynny'n rhywbeth ar wahân. Felly, gadewch imi droi at y gwelliannau. Rydych yn gywir yn ailddatgan yr hyn a ddywedais o'r blaen mewn perthynas â diwygio gwelliant 26 - nid wyf yn gweld beth sydd i'w ennill o ailddatgan dyletswydd sydd gan awdurdodau lleol eisoes mewn perthynas â sicrhau bod digon o ofal plant ar gael yn eu hardaloedd. Mae'r ddyletswydd bresennol, fel y dywedasoch, yn ehangach hefyd na'r hyn a gynigir, gan ei bod yn ei gwneud hi'n ofynnol i awdurdodau lleol roi sylw i'r angen am ofal plant sy'n addas ar gyfer plant anabl, ac ar gyfer gofal plant sy'n defnyddio'r Gymraeg. Mae'n ymddangos bod gwelliant 27 yn ceisio dwyn llawer o'r manylion gweithredol rydym yn bwriadu eu cynnwys yn y cynllun gweinyddol o fewn cwmpas is-ddeddfwriaeth. Rydym yn mynd i ddysgu, rydym yn mynd i barhau i ddysgu o brofiad gyda'r cynnig hwn, a'r cynllun gweinyddol yw'r union fecanwaith sy'n rhoi hyblygrwydd pwysig inni allu addasu ac adolygu'r trefniadau gweinyddol, gweithredol, rheng flaen hynny wrth i ni fwrw ymlaen. Nid rhyw fath o esgus yw'r cynllun gweinyddol i guddio problemau rhag Aelodau'r Cynulliad. Rwyf eisoes wedi'i gyflwyno ar ffurf fframwaith i'w rannu gydag Aelodau, a buaswn o ddifrif yn croesawu craffu pellach ar y cynllun yn y gwanwyn. O ran gwelliant 28, hoffwn ailadrodd yr hyn a ddywedais o'r blaen am yr angen i gofrestru ac arolygu darparwyr er mwyn iddynt allu cymryd rhan yn y cynnig. Rydym bob amser wedi bod yn glir ynglŷn â'n rhesymau dros wneud hyn. Ac os caf gyfeirio at y sylwadau a wnaethoch wrth orffen eiliad yn ôl ar y set flaenorol o welliannau: os oes perthnasau, neiniau a theidiau ac eraill allan yno sydd eisiau gwneud defnydd o'r cynllun hwn mewn gwirionedd - gan gynnwys darparu ar gyfer eu plant eu hunain yn ogystal ag eraill, oherwydd rwyf wedi gweld darpariaeth dda iawn gan bobl sy'n gweithredu mewn tai gyda chwech o blant, dau ohonynt efallai'n wyrion iddynt hwy ac ati - fe allant wneud hynny. Mae angen iddynt hwy gofrestru hefyd, dyna i gyd. Ac mae yna neiniau a theidiau sy'n gwneud hynny, rhaid imi ddweud. Nawr, rwy'n credu y dylem gadw mewn cof hefyd fod yna eisoes gyfres o safonau y mae'n ofynnol i ddarparwyr gofal plant gydymffurfio â hwy. Cânt eu rhestru'n fanwl yn ein safonau gofynnol cenedlaethol, a chawsant eu hadolygu ym mis Ebrill 2016. Felly, ar y sail hon, gyda'r esboniadau hynny, rwy'n gobeithio bod hynny wedi egluro pam na allwn gefnogi gwelliannau 26, 27 na 28.