English: Diolch, Llywydd, and I beg to move the amendments standing in my name. I agree with Darren Millar that this doesn't necessarily mean that devolution could have succeeded and that it's because we've had a Labour Government, propped up by Plaid Cymru, for the entire life of this Assembly in one shape or form - either in coalition with it or at the beginning of this Assembly, of course, they were instrumental in voting for the Labour Government to be put back into office under the former First Minister, so Plaid Cymru bear equal responsibility for the failures of the Labour Government. Dai Lloyd said in his speech that we should respect the result of the 2011 referendum, which raises a horse laugh in those who didn't want to respect the result of the referendum in 2016 and wanted to reverse the decision of the British and Welsh people before it had even been implemented. It took us 41 years from 1975 to get a new EU referendum. It's been a generation since the first referendum to establish an Assembly in Wales and I think, after 25 years of failure, unrelieved failure by a permanent Labour Government, it is time to allow the Welsh people to have their say once more. I wouldn't, personally, be against having a referendum on independence as part and parcel of that. I see no reason why that should not be put to the Welsh people as well. So I hope that Plaid Cymru will support me in a demand for a referendum on the various options that the Welsh people can decide between. There's no doubt that there's been considerable disaffection growing in Wales, from both ends of the spectrum here, in recent years. The latest YouGov poll, in January, had in its results that 21 per cent of those who responded favour independence but 24 per cent want to abolish this place. That's 46 per cent one way or another who express an extreme form of dissatisfaction with the performance of the Assembly. Until Gareth Bennett started to raise this issue a little time ago, there was nobody in this Assembly who was giving voice to that very substantial minority that now wants to see this place abolished. I'm pleased to see the Brexit Party following in our slipstream, but I'm not sure that the proprietor of the Brexit Party actually knows about the policy change that has been adopted. Maybe we'll find out about that later. There are arguments for devolution, of course - in fact, I've made them myself in this Assembly, earlier on. I have seen what devolution could have done from other parts of the world and, if we had had a Government that was prepared to put forward policies that could start to solve some of the problems that have been pointed out in this debate so far, then I could support it - [ Interruption.]
Welsh: Diolch, Lywydd, ac rwy'n cynnig y gwelliannau a gyflwynwyd yn fy enw. Rwy'n cytuno â Darren Millar nad yw hyn o reidrwydd yn golygu y gallai datganoli fod wedi llwyddo a'i fod oherwydd ein bod wedi cael Llywodraeth Lafur, wedi'i chynnal gan Blaid Cymru, am oes gyfan y Cynulliad hwn mewn rhyw ddull neu fodd - naill ai ar ffurf clymblaid â hi neu ar ddechrau'r Cynulliad hwn, wrth gwrs, roeddent yn allweddol wrth bleidleisio dros adael i'r Llywodraeth Lafur ddychwelyd i rym o dan y cyn Brif Weinidog, felly mae Plaid Cymru yr un mor gyfrifol am fethiannau'r Llywodraeth Lafur. Dywedodd Dai Lloyd yn ei araith y dylem barchu canlyniad refferendwm 2011, sy'n codi chwerthin ymhlith y rhai nad oedd am barchu canlyniad y refferendwm yn 2016 ac a oedd am wyrdroi penderfyniad pobl Prydain a Chymru cyn iddo gael ei weithredu hyd yn oed. Cymerodd 41 mlynedd i ni o 1975 ymlaen i gael refferendwm arall ar yr UE. Mae wedi bod yn genhedlaeth ers y refferendwm cyntaf i sefydlu Cynulliad yng Nghymru a chredaf, ar ôl 25 mlynedd o fethiant, methiant di-ildio gan Lywodraeth Lafur barhaol, ei bod yn bryd caniatáu i bobl Cymru fynegi eu barn unwaith eto. Yn bersonol, ni fuaswn yn gwrthwynebu cael refferendwm ar annibyniaeth fel rhan o hynny. Ni welaf unrhyw reswm pam na ddylid rhoi hynny gerbron pobl Cymru hefyd. Felly gobeithio y bydd Plaid Cymru yn cefnogi fy ngalwad am refferendwm ar yr opsiynau amrywiol y gall pobl Cymru benderfynu rhyngddynt. Nid oes amheuaeth fod dadrithiad sylweddol wedi tyfu yng Nghymru, o ddau ben y sbectrwm yma, yn y blynyddoedd diwethaf. Yn ôl yr arolwg barn diweddaraf gan YouGov, ym mis Ionawr, roedd 21 y cant o'r rhai a ymatebodd yn ffafrio annibyniaeth, ond roedd 24 y cant am gael gwared ar y lle hwn. Dyna 46 y cant y naill ffordd neu'r llall sy'n mynegi ffurf eithafol ar anfodlonrwydd â pherfformiad y Cynulliad. Hyd nes y dechreuodd Gareth Bennett godi'r mater beth amser yn ôl, nid oedd neb yn y Cynulliad yn rhoi llais i'r lleiafrif sylweddol iawn sydd bellach am weld y lle hwn yn cael ei ddiddymu. Rwy'n falch o weld Plaid Brexit yn dilyn yn ein sgilwynt, ond nid wyf yn siŵr a yw perchennog Plaid Brexit yn gwybod am y newid polisi sydd wedi'i fabwysiadu. Efallai y cawn wybod am hynny yn nes ymlaen. Ceir dadleuon o blaid datganoli, wrth gwrs - yn wir, rwyf wedi eu gwneud fy hun yn y Cynulliad hwn, yn gynharach. Gwelais yr hyn y gallai datganoli fod wedi'i wneud mewn rhannau eraill o'r byd, a phe bai gennym Lywodraeth a oedd yn barod i gyflwyno polisïau a allai ddechrau datrys rhai o'r problemau y tynnwyd sylw atynt yn y ddadl hon hyd yma, gallwn ei gefnogi - [ T orri ar draws.]