English: I thank the Cabinet Secretary for his statement this afternoon, and I must say that I continue to be in awe of the Cabinet Secretary's relatively sunshine disposition. I can't imagine what a frustrating and painstaking process this has been, yet he always seems to get the word 'constructive' into a statement about the JMC (EN), although trying to find anything constructive can sometimes be a challenge, but that's something I very much admire about the Cabinet Secretary. Obviously, I very much welcome the decision to go ahead to publish a continuity Bill, not because, as the Cabinet Secretary says, it's desirable but because it is the right thing to do, it is the measured thing to do, and, in fact, it is the necessary thing to do if we want to preserve the will of the people of Wales that was expressed in two referenda, not just to establish a Parliament for Wales but to have a Parliament for Wales with the powers that we enjoy today. I also would be interested to hear the Cabinet Secretary's views on whether he believes that the mishandling - shall I put it politely - on the part of the UK Government of the relations more generally with the devolved Governments is a conspiracy, or is it incompetence? I keep going from one to another; I can't believe at some points that a Government could possibly be so incompetent, but then I listen to some of their Ministers and then I can quite easily believe it. I also think that as well as this being a necessary step to legislate pre-emptively, if necessary, in terms of our constitution and preserving it, that, actually, this is an important moment for this National Assembly and for the national character of Wales, because, if we have to press ahead with emergency legislation to defend our constitution, then I hope that it'll mark the beginning of the end of Wales being perceived as the pushover of these islands, and that any Government in Westminster in the future, of whatever colour, will think twice before they start pushing us around and believe that they can play hard and fast with our constitution. I'd like just to have clarification from the Cabinet Secretary in terms of the future discussions that are being planned for the JMC (EN), particularly next week. The word 'negotiation' is thrown around a lot these days, for obvious reasons, but, in terms of the bar that the Welsh Government has set in terms of what would be acceptable in an improved EU withdrawal Bill, can he just reassure this Assembly that any negotiation will not amount to Wales being stripped of powers, that there is a need for discussion and a need for collaboration and negotiation, but that he is prepared to push through this legislation and that it won't just be enough for Westminster to move a little bit, that there would have to be a fundamental change to the legislation as far as devolution is concerned? Also - my colleague and friend Simon Thomas touched on this in his contribution, but the Cabinet Secretary and the Scottish Government have been so busy firefighting the potential damage of the withdrawal Bill, I wonder whether he can update us further on any progress that there might have been in terms of common frameworks. It's something touched on by other Members too. Because, if we don't have a paradigm shift at the UK Government level when it comes to the withdrawal Bill, I fear that we definitely won't get one when it comes to future frameworks, although there was talk in the past that there had been some progress, at least a concession that frameworks could be jointly composed and jointly agreed, which was a landmark moment for the Westminster Government. But I'd be very interested to hear from the Cabinet Secretary if there's been any further discussion on those common frameworks. Just finally, does the Cabinet Secretary agree with me that discussions such as this, and agreements between the devolved Governments, should have concluded long before a group of people met at Chequers to decide our fates without our country being represented in that group?
Welsh: Rwy'n diolch i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet am ei ddatganiad y prynhawn yma, ac mae'n rhaid imi ddweud fy mod i'n parhau i fod wedi fy syfrdanu gan hwyliau lled rhadlon Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet. Ni allaf ddychmygu pa mor rhwystredig a phoenus o drwyadl y bu'r broses hon, ac eto ymddengys ei fod bob amser yn llwyddo i gynnwys y gair 'adeiladol' mewn datganiad ynglŷn â'r Cyd-bwyllgor Gweinidogion (Negodiadau'r UE), er y gall ceisio dod o hyd i unrhyw beth adeiladol fod yn her weithiau. Ond mae hynny'n rhywbeth yr wyf yn ei edmygu llawer am Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet. Yn amlwg, rwy'n croesawu'n fawr y penderfyniad i fwrw ymlaen i gyhoeddi Bil parhad, nid oherwydd, fel y dywed Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, ei fod yn ddymunol ond am mai dyna'r peth iawn i'w wneud, a dyna'r peth pwyllog i'w wneud, ac, yn wir, dyna'r peth angenrheidiol i'w wneud os ydym eisiau anrhydeddu ewyllys pobl Cymru a fynegwyd mewn dau refferendwm, nid yn unig i sefydlu Senedd i Gymru ond i gael Senedd i Gymru gyda'r pwerau sydd gennym ni heddiw. Hefyd byddai gennyf ddiddordeb mewn clywed barn Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet ynghylch a yw'n credu bod ffordd y mae Llywodraeth y DU wedi camdrafod - o'i fynegi'n gwrtais - y cysylltiadau yn fwy cyffredinol gyda'r llywodraethau datganoledig yn gynllwyn, neu ai anallu ydyw? Rwy'n pendilio rhwng y naill a'r llall byth a beunydd; ni allaf gredu mewn rhai agweddau fod modd i Lywodraeth fod mor ddi-glem, ond yna gwrandawaf ar rai o'i Gweinidogion ac yna gallaf gredu hynny'n bur hawdd. Rwyf hefyd yn credu, yn ogystal â bod hwn yn gam angenrheidiol i ddeddfu yn gyflym, os oes angen, o ran ein cyfansoddiad a'i ddiogelu, yn wir, fod hon yn adeg bwysig ar gyfer y Cynulliad Cenedlaethol hwn a chymeriad cenedlaethol Cymru. Os ydym yn mynd i fwrw ymlaen â deddfwriaeth frys i amddiffyn ein cyfansoddiad, yna gobeithio y bydd hynny'n nodi dechrau diwedd sefyllfa lle caiff Cymru ei gweld fel doli glwt yr ynysoedd hyn, ac y bydd unrhyw Lywodraeth yn San Steffan yn y dyfodol, beth bynnag ei lliw, yn meddwl ddwywaith cyn dechrau ein cam-drin a chredu y gallant wneud fel y mynnant â'n cyfansoddiad. Hoffwn i gael eglurhad gan Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet o ran y trafodaethau sydd ar y gweill ar gyfer y Cyd-bwyllgor Gweinidogion (Negodiadau'r UE), yn enwedig yr wythnos nesaf. Mae'r gair 'negodi' yn air poblogaidd iawn y dyddiau hyn, am resymau amlwg. Ond, o ran y nod y mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi ei osod o ran yr hyn fyddai'n dderbyniol mewn Bil ymadael yr UE sydd wedi'i wella, a all ef sicrhau'r Cynulliad hwn na fydd unrhyw negodi yn gyfystyr â chymryd grymoedd oddi ar Gymru, bod angen trafod a bod angen cydweithio a negodi, ond ei fod yn barod i wthio'r ddeddfwriaeth hon, ac na fydd yn ddigon i San Steffan ildio ychydig, y byddai'n rhaid cael newid sylfaenol yn y ddeddfwriaeth cyn belled â bod datganoli yn y fantol? Hefyd - soniodd fy nghyd-Aelod a'm cyfaill Simon Thomas am hyn yn ei gyfraniad, ond mae Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet a Llywodraeth yr Alban wedi bod mor brysur yn gwarchod rhag difrod posib y Bil ymadael, tybed a all ein diweddaru ni ymhellach ynglŷn ag unrhyw gynnydd sydd wedi bod o bosib o ran fframweithiau cyffredin. Mae'n rhywbeth y mae Aelodau eraill wedi ei grybwyll hefyd. Oherwydd, os nad oes gennym ni newid safbwynt yn Llywodraeth y DU ar fater y Bil ymadael, mae arnaf ofn na chawn ni byth newid ar fater fframweithiau yn y dyfodol, er y bu sôn yn y gorffennol y bu rhywfaint o gynnydd, o leiaf consesiwn y gellid llunio a chytuno ar y cyd ar gynnwys fframweithiau, a oedd yn adeg nodedig i Lywodraeth San Steffan. Ond byddai gennyf ddiddordeb mawr mewn clywed gan Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet a fu unrhyw drafodaeth bellach ynglŷn â'r fframweithiau cyffredin hynny. Ac yn olaf, a yw Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet yn cytuno â mi y dylai trafodaethau fel hyn, a chytundebau rhwng y Llywodraethau datganoledig, fod wedi dirwyn i ben ymhell cyn i grŵp o bobl gyfarfod yn Chequers i benderfynu ar ein tynged heb fod cynrychiolaeth i'n gwlad yn y grŵp hwnnw?