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English: So, with that much of a preface, we have reached item 3, which is the impact of the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 in relation to carers. Does this Act make a real difference to carers? In front of us, we have an evidence session with children's organisations, so I'm very pleased to welcome Sarah Crawley, director of Barnardo's Cymru, Lynne Hill, who is policy director for Children in Wales, and Geraint Turner, who is a project co-ordinator for YMCA. Welcome to all three of you. We have received your written evidence beforehand, and time is very short this morning, so we will go straight into questions, as usual. Lynne will start.
Welsh: Felly, gyda chymaint â hynny o ragymadrodd, rydym ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 3, ac effaith Deddf Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol a Llesiant (Cymru) 2014 mewn perthynas â gofalwyr. Hynny yw, a ydy'r Ddeddf yma wedi gwneud gwahaniaeth go iawn i ofalwyr? O'n blaenau ni mae gyda ni sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda sefydliadau plant, felly rydw i'n falch iawn i allu croesawu Sarah Crawley, cyfarwyddwr Barnardo's Cymru, Lynne Hill, cyfarwyddwr polisi, Plant yng Nghymru, a Geraint Turner, cydlynydd prosiect, YMCA. Croeso i'r tri ohonoch chi. Rydym ni wedi derbyn eich tystiolaeth ysgrifenedig ymlaen llaw. Mae amser yn rhyfeddol o brin y bore yma, ac felly awn ni'n syth i gwestiynau, sydd yn ôl ein traddodiad, ac mae Lynne Neagle yn mynd i ddechrau.
English: Welcome back, everyone, to the latest meeting of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee here in the National Assembly for Wales. We have reached item 4 on our agenda now, and we continue with our discussion about the effect of the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 in relation to carers, and now we have reached the evidence session with Alzheimer's Society Cymru. Welcome, everyone - specifically, then, Huw Owen, policy adviser for Alzheimer's Society Cymru, Dawn Walters, who is an advocate for Alzheimer's Society Cymru, Jayne Goodrick, who is a carer of a person living with dementia, and also Ceri Higgins, who is also a carer for a person living with dementia. Welcome to all of you. Thank you very much for your written evidence submitted beforehand. As usual, as time is always a problem in this place, we'll go straight into questions based on the evidence that we have. Helen Mary Jones will start.
Welsh: Croeso yn ôl i bawb i'r sesiwn ddiweddaraf o'r Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yng Nghynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru. Rydym ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 4 ar ein hagenda rŵan, ac yn dal ar ein trafodaeth ar effaith Deddf Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol a Llesiant (Cymru) 2014 mewn perthynas efo gofalwyr, ac erbyn rŵan rydym ni wedi cyrraedd sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chymdeithas Alzheimer's Cymru. Croeso i bawb - yn benodol, felly, Huw Owen, swyddog polisi Cymdeithas Alzheimer's Cymru, Dawn Walters, eiriolwr, Cymdeithas Alzheimer's Cymru, Jayne Goodrick, sy'n gofalu am berson efo demensia, a hefyd Ceri Higgins, sydd hefyd yn gofalu am berson efo demensia. Croeso i chi i gyd. Diolch yn fawr iawn am y dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig a gyflwynwyd ymlaen llaw. Ac yn ôl ein harfer, achos mae amser wastad yn pwyso arnom ni yn y lle yma, fe awn ni'n syth i mewn i gwestiynau yn seiliedig ar y dystiolaeth rydym ni wedi ei derbyn. Felly, mae Helen Mary Jones yn mynd i ddechrau. Helen.
English: Welcome back, everyone, to this latest session of the Heath, Social Care and Sport Committee here at the National Assembly for Wales. We've reached item 5 now, and we're continuing our discussions and our inquiry into the impact of the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 in relation to carers, namely whether the Act has worked or is in the process of working or not. Before us now we have an evidence session with the Association of Directors of Social Services Cymru and the Welsh Local Government Association. So, in that regard, I'm very pleased to welcome Damien McCann, corporate director for social services at Blaenau Gwent County Borough Council; Kim Sparrey, carers' services development manager from Monmouthsire County Council; Councillor Susan Elsmore, deputy spokesperson for social care and health at the WLGA - welcome; also Naomi Alleyne, director of social services and housing at the WLGA. Good morning to you. Thank you very much for your written evidence, which we've received beforehand. We've also received a whole host of other evidence with regard to how the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act is working. So, as is customary, we'll go straight to questions. The first question is from Rhianon.
Welsh: Croeso yn ôl i bawb i adran ddiweddaraf y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yng Nghynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru. Rydym ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 5 rŵan ac yn parhau efo'n trafodaethau a'n hymchwiliad i mewn i effaith Deddf Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol a Llesiant (Cymru) 2014 mewn perthynas â gofalwyr. Hynny yw, a ydy'r Act wedi gweithio neu yn y broses o weithio ai peidio - y Ddeddf yma? O'n blaenau rŵan, mae'r sesiwn dystiolaeth ddiweddaraf gyda Chymdeithas Cyfarwyddwr Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol Cymru a Chymdeithas Llywodraeth Leol Cymru. Felly, i'r perwyl yna, rydw i'n falch iawn o groesawu i'r bwrdd Damien McCann, cyfarwyddwr corfforaethol gwasanaethau cymdeithasol Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Blaenau Gwent; Kim Sparrey, rheolwr datblygu gwasanaethau gofalwyr Cyngor Sir Fynwy; y Cynghorydd Susan Elsmore, dirprwy lefarydd iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol Cymdeithas Llywodraeth Leol Cymru - croeso; a hefyd Naomi Alleyne, cyfarwyddwr gwasanaethau cymdeithasol a thai Cymdeithas Llywodraeth Leol Cymru. Bore da hefyd. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich tystiolaeth ysgrifenedig rydym ni wedi'i derbyn ymlaen llaw. Rydym ni hefyd wedi derbyn toreth o dystiolaeth arall ynglŷn â sut mae'r Ddeddf gwasanaethau cymdeithasol a llesiant yn gweithio. Felly, yn ôl ein traddodiad, awn ni'n syth i mewn i'r cwestiynau. Y cwestiwn cyntaf - Rhianon.
English: Moving on to item 6, papers to note. My fellow Members will have noted those particular papers.
Welsh: Symud ymlaen i eitem 6, papurau i'w nodi. Fe fydd fy nghyd-Aelodau wedi nodi y papurau yna.
English: We now move on to item 7, motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting. Is everyone content? Thank you very much. We'll go into private session.
Welsh: Wedyn, symud i eitem 7, cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod. Pawb yn cytuno? Diolch yn fawr. Fe awn ni i sesiwn breifat.
English: The first item on our agenda is questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Education, and the first question is from Joyce Watson.
Welsh: Yr eitem gyntaf ar ein hagenda ni y prynhawn yma yw'r cwestiynau i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros Addysg, ac mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf gan Joyce Watson.
English: Parents can request that their summer-born child starts school aged five in a reception class. The code is clear that admission authorities should consider requests carefully and make decisions on a case-by-case basis, in consultation with parents and the school, and specifically in relation to the best interests of the child.
Welsh: Gall rhieni ofyn am ganiatâd i'w plentyn a aned yn yr haf gael dechrau'r ysgol yn bump oed mewn dosbarth derbyn. Mae'r cod yn glir y dylai awdurdodau derbyn ystyried ceisiadau'n ofalus a gwneud penderfyniadau ar sail achos mewn ymgynghoriad â rhieni a'r ysgol, ac yn benodol mewn perthynas â buddiannau gorau'r plentyn.
English: I thank you for the answer, and I'm sure you're aware that the first day of school is an anxious time for parents and their children, and they often look at them and think that they're not ready; they're too little. But the parents of summer-born children in some cases might have genuine cause for concern, and they're now calling for more flexibility on those start dates. Cabinet Secretary, in response to a recent news report, the Welsh Government has said that a school admission code review would start this month. Are you able to update the Assembly on that? Is it under way and who is leading it, and what might the scope be of that review?
Welsh: Diolch i chi am yr ateb, ac rwy'n siŵr eich bod yn ymwybodol fod y diwrnod cyntaf yn yr ysgol yn amser pryderus i rieni a'u plant, ac yn aml byddant yn edrych arnynt ac yn meddwl nad ydynt yn barod; maent yn rhy fach. Ond mae'n bosibl y bydd pryder rhieni plant a gaiff eu geni yn yr haf yn ddilys mewn rhai achosion, ac maent bellach yn galw am fwy o hyblygrwydd o ran y dyddiadau cychwyn. Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, mewn ymateb i adroddiad newyddion diweddar, mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi dweud y byddai adolygiad o'r cod derbyn i ysgolion yn cychwyn y mis hwn. A allwch chi roi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf i'r Cynulliad ar hynny? A yw ar y gweill a phwy sy'n ei arwain, a beth fyddai cwmpas yr adolygiad hwnnw?
English: Thank you, Joyce. I would agree that the start of a child's schooling can be an anxious time as well as an exciting time, and sometimes even more so for parents than it is for the individual child. I remember being left devastated at the school gates as my daughter tripped into school without a look backward, leaving me feeling very inadequate. Of course, our youngest children are entitled to schooling from our foundation phase, which offers a unique education experience for children aged three to seven. It's an innovative framework designed to meet the diverse needs of each individual child regardless of their stage of development. It is intended that this framework for our youngest learners is appropriate to their stage of learning rather than focusing solely on age-related activities. You are right to say that I have given a commitment for the code to be reviewed. That review has begun. In the first instance, my officials are discussing with each of the admissions authorities - i.e. each of our local education authorities - how they have been using the code over the last five years, and I have asked my officials to contact members of the summer-born campaign group to ascertain their views. If it is the intention to amend the code, there would be a requirement for a statutory consultation period. So, if I decide to amend the code after this review, then that would be open to further consultation.
Welsh: Diolch, Joyce. Buaswn yn cytuno y gall dechrau addysg ysgol plentyn fod yn amser pryderus, yn ogystal ag amser cyffrous. A hyd yn oed yn fwy felly weithiau i rieni nag i'r plentyn unigol. Rwy'n cofio fy ngofid wrth giatiau'r ysgol wrth i fy merch sgipio i'r ysgol heb edrych yn ôl, gan fy ngadael yn teimlo'n annigonol iawn. Wrth gwrs, mae gan ein plant ieuengaf hawl i addysg ein cyfnod sylfaen, sy'n cynnig profiad addysg unigryw i blant rhwng tair a saith oed. Mae'n fframwaith arloesol a gynlluniwyd i ddiwallu anghenion amrywiol pob plentyn unigol ar ba gam bynnag o'u datblygiad. Y bwriad yw i'r fframwaith hwn ar gyfer ein dysgwyr ieuengaf fod yn briodol i'w cam dysgu yn hytrach na chanolbwyntio'n unig ar weithgareddau sy'n berthnasol i oedran. Rydych yn iawn i ddweud fy mod wedi ymrwymo i adolygu'r cod. Mae'r adolygiad hwnnw wedi dechrau. Yn y lle cyntaf, mae fy swyddogion yn trafod gyda phob un o'r awdurdodau derbyn, h.y. pob un o'n hawdurdodau addysg lleol, ynglŷn â sut y buont yn defnyddio'r cod dros y pum mlynedd diwethaf, ac rwyf wedi gofyn i fy swyddogion gysylltu ag aelodau'r ymgyrch dros ddisgyblion a anwyd yn ystod yr haf i weld beth yw eu barn. Os mai'r bwriad yw diwygio'r cod, byddai gofyn cael cyfnod o ymgynghori statudol. Felly, os penderfynaf ddiwygio'r cod ar ôl yr adolygiad hwn, byddai hynny'n agored i ymgynghoriad pellach.
English: Cabinet Secretary, I was born on 28 August. I think I first raised this issue over 10 years ago, and I think we need to be even more radical, because I was young for my physical age as well as being born on 28 August. I think I was often 18 months behind many of the people that were in the same class year as me. It caused reading and writing difficulties when I was in primary school, and it wasn't until the very end of secondary school that I started to achieve close to my intellectual potential. This is a real issue, and we need to have children in the appropriate year group, which may not be exactly what's determined by the strict criteria of their age.
Welsh: Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, cefais fy ngeni ar 28 Awst. Rwy'n credu fy mod wedi sôn am y mater hwn yn gyntaf dros 10 mlynedd yn ôl, a chredaf fod angen i ni fod hyd yn oed yn fwy radical, oherwydd roeddwn yn ifanc o ran fy oedran corfforol yn ogystal â chael fy ngeni ar 28 Awst. Rwy'n credu fy mod yn aml 18 mis y tu ôl i lawer o'r bobl a oedd yn yr un flwyddyn â fi. Achosodd anawsterau darllen ac ysgrifennu pan oeddwn yn yr ysgol gynradd, ac ni ddechreuais gyflawni yn agos at fy mhotensial deallusol hyd nes ddiwedd yr ysgol uwchradd. Mae hon yn broblem go iawn, ac mae angen inni gael plant yn y grŵp blwyddyn priodol, ac efallai na fydd modd pennu hynny'n union yn ôl meini prawf eu hoedran yn unig.
English: Well, David, as I said, the current code does allow for school admission authorities to be flexible in responding to requests from parents. As we carry out this review, we will be analysing how many requests have been made, how those requests have been dealt with, and, as I said, we are keen to hear the view from parents who have concerns in this area. And should I deem it necessary, then we can take the opportunity, following consultation, to amend the code. But, at this moment, we're still in the process of gathering evidence.
Welsh: Wel, David, fel y dywedais, mae'r cod cyfredol yn caniatáu i awdurdodau derbyn i ysgolion fod yn hyblyg wrth ymateb i geisiadau rhieni. Wrth inni gynnal yr adolygiad hwn, byddwn yn dadansoddi faint o geisiadau a wnaed, sut yr ymdriniwyd â'r ceisiadau hynny, ac fel y dywedais, rydym yn awyddus i glywed barn rhieni sydd â phryderon yn y maes hwn. Ac os penderfynaf fod angen gwneud hynny, gallwn fanteisio ar y cyfle, yn dilyn ymgynghoriad, i ddiwygio'r cod. Ond ar hyn o bryd, rydym yn dal i fod yn y broses o gasglu tystiolaeth.
English: I was born on 1 September. [ Laughter.] [ Interruption.] No, we won't go on.
Welsh: Cefais fy ngeni ar 1 Medi. [ Chwerthin.] [ Torri ar draws.] Na, nid awn ymlaen.
English: Presiding Officer, it clearly hasn't done you or David Melding any harm as to when you were born. Thank you, Rhun. The Cabinet Secretary for health provided a detailed update on medical education in Wales in his letter to Assembly Members sent on 13 November. This confirmed that the first full programme of medical education to be offered in north Wales will commence in 2019.
Welsh: Lywydd, mae'n amlwg nad yw wedi gwneud unrhyw niwed i chi na David Melding o ran pryd y cawsoch eich geni. Diolch, Rhun. Darparodd Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros iechyd ddiweddariad manwl ar addysg feddygol yng Nghymru yn ei lythyr at Aelodau'r Cynulliad a anfonwyd ar 13 Tachwedd. Cadarnhaodd hyn y bydd y rhaglen lawn gyntaf o addysg feddygol i gael ei chynnig yng ngogledd Cymru yn dechrau yn 2019.
English: Thank you very much. I celebrated as though it were my birthday - 27 August, by the way - when we heard the news just a few weeks ago that medical education was going to be provided in Bangor from this next academic year onwards. Siân Gwenllian, I and the Plaid Cymru team more broadly have fought hard for this, and we were very pleased that we had reached agreement with the Government to secure the funding to push this forward. I'm extremely grateful to everyone who's been involved in making this happen, none less than those in the teams at Bangor University and Cardiff University, given that this exciting development will be a partnership between both those universities. My question today is what work is the Welsh Government and your department considering doing in order to notify young people locally that this is happening, so that they can start to make educational decisions that may be different in preparing the ground to study this course. Furthermore, what work can be done to promote this option for students and graduates in Wales?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Mi wnes i ddathlu fel pe bai'n ben-blwydd arnaf i - 27 Awst, gyda llaw - pan gawsom ni'r newyddion ychydig wythnosau yn ôl fod addysg feddygol yn mynd i gael ei chyflwyno ym Mangor o'r flwyddyn academaidd nesaf yma. Mae Siân Gwenllian a finnau, a thîm Plaid Cymru yn ehangach, wedi brwydro'n galed iawn am hyn, ac roeddwn i'n falch iawn ein bod ni wedi gallu dod i gytundeb efo'r Llywodraeth i sicrhau'r arian i wthio hyn yn ei flaen. Mae fy niolch i'n fawr i bawb sydd wedi bod yn rhan o wneud i hyn ddigwydd, neb llai, wrth gwrs, na'r timau ym Mhrifysgolion Bangor a Chaerdydd, gan mai partneriaeth rhwng y ddwy brifysgol fydd y datblygiad cyffrous yma. Fy nghwestiwn i heddiw yma ydy pa waith y mae Llywodraeth Cymru a'ch adran chi yn ystyried ei wneud er mwyn hysbysu pobl ifanc yn lleol fod hyn yn digwydd, fel eu bod nhw'n gallu dechrau gwneud penderfyniadau addysgol gwahanol o bosib, er mwyn paratoi'r llwybr at y cwrs yma. Yn ehangach na hynny, pa waith a all gael ei wneud i hyrwyddo'r opsiwn yma ar gyfer myfyrwyr a graddedigion yng Nghymru ar hyn o bryd?
English: It's 18 months since I asked the First Minister here to ensure that the business case for a new medical school in Bangor included dialogue with Liverpool medical school, after the north Wales local medical committee had expressed concern that the previous supply from there, where many of their generation of GPs had come from, had largely been severed. In addition, therefore, to the medical education to be provided in Bangor through the collaborative approach with Cardiff and Swansea, which I welcome, how do you respond to the continuing calls by the north Wales local medical committee to incorporate connections with Liverpool and Manchester medical schools and also, therefore, restore the supply of new young doctors into north Wales from there, when many trainee doctors may still choose to study there alongside their studies within Wales?
Welsh: Mae'n 18 mis ers i mi ofyn i'r Prif Weinidog yma i sicrhau bod yr achos busnes ar gyfer ysgol feddygol newydd ym Mangor yn cynnwys deialog gydag ysgol feddygol Lerpwl ar ôl i bwyllgor meddygol lleol gogledd Cymru fynegi pryder fod y cyflenwad blaenorol oddi yno, o ble y daeth llawer o'u cenhedlaeth hwy o feddygon teulu, wedi cael ei atal i raddau helaeth. Felly yn ogystal â'r addysg feddygol sydd i'w darparu ym Mangor trwy'r dull cydweithredol â Chaerdydd ac Abertawe, darpariaeth sydd i'w chroesawu'n fawr, sut rydych yn ymateb i'r galwadau parhaus gan bwyllgor meddygol lleol gogledd Cymru i ymgorffori cysylltiadau ag ysgolion meddygol Lerpwl a Manceinion ac adfer y cyflenwad o feddygon ifanc newydd i ogledd Cymru o'r fan honno, pan fo llawer o feddygon dan hyfforddiant yn dal i ddewis astudio yno o bosibl ochr yn ochr â'u hastudiaethau yng Nghymru?
English: Well, of course, Mark, as I have said, we have seen a record number of Welsh students gaining a place at medical school, whether that be medical schools here in Wales or, indeed, in the rest of the UK, which shows the strength and the ability of our A-level students to secure those places. I have not been personally involved in those discussions with providers across the border. My priority is to support the intense work that is going on between Cardiff and Bangor universities, which is at an advanced stage and shows two institutions working really closely together. And let's be absolutely clear, this new expansion will provide pathways for doctors being trained completely in north Wales, enabling medical students to study in north Wales for the entirety of their degree and to plan for their postgraduate training, and I think that's very much to be welcomed.
Welsh: Wel, wrth gwrs, Mark. Fel y dywedais, rydym wedi gweld nifer uwch nag erioed o fyfyrwyr o Gymru yn ennill lle mewn ysgol feddygol, boed hynny mewn ysgolion meddygol yma yng Nghymru, neu yn wir, yng ngweddill y DU, sy'n dangos cryfder a gallu ein myfyrwyr safon uwch yn llwyddo i ennill y llefydd hynny. Nid wyf wedi cymryd rhan yn bersonol yn y trafodaethau â darparwyr ar draws y ffin. Fy mlaenoriaeth yw cefnogi'r gwaith caled sy'n digwydd rhwng Prifysgolion Caerdydd a Bangor, gwaith sydd ar gam datblygedig ac yn dangos dau sefydliad yn gweithio'n agos iawn gyda'i gilydd. A gadewch i ni fod yn hollol glir: bydd yr ehangiad newydd hwn yn darparu llwybrau i feddygon gael eu hyfforddi'n gyfan gwbl yn ngogledd Cymru, gan alluogi myfyrwyr meddygol i astudio yng ngogledd Cymru ar gyfer eu gradd yn llawn ac i gynllunio ar gyfer eu hyfforddiant ôl-raddedig, a chredaf fod hynny i'w groesawu'n fawr iawn.
English: Thank you, madam Presiding Officer. Minister, the German vocational education and training system, also known as the dual training system, is highly recognised worldwide due to its combination of teaching and training embedded in the real work environment. The main characteristic of the dual system is co-operation between companies and colleges, regulated by law. Businesses that take part in the dual training scheme consider it to be the best form of personal recruitment by saving on recruitment costs required for the skills and labour needed. What study has the Welsh Government made of the German system to see if there are lessons to be learned that could benefit us in Wales?
Welsh: Diolch, Madam Lywydd. Weinidog, mae system addysg a hyfforddiant galwedigaethol yr Almaen, a elwir hefyd yn system hyfforddi ddeuol, yn cael cydnabyddiaeth ym mhob cwr o'r byd oherwydd ei chyfuniad o addysg a hyfforddiant wedi'u hymgorffori yn yr amgylchedd gwaith go iawn. Prif nodwedd y system ddeuol yw cydweithrediad rhwng cwmnïau a cholegau, a reoleiddir gan y gyfraith. Mae busnesau sy'n cymryd rhan yn y cynllun hyfforddi deuol yn ystyried mai dyma'r math gorau o recriwtio personol am ei fod yn arbed costau recriwtio sydd eu hangen ar gyfer y sgiliau a'r llafur gofynnol. Pa astudiaeth y mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi'i wneud o system yr Almaen i weld a oes gwersi i'w dysgu a allai fod o fudd i ni yng Nghymru?
English: Thank you very much. I met recently with the German industry to discuss this very issue. They came in and put forward their model of what is a successful model in Germany. I know that my predecessor in this role actually went to Germany and looked at the model and tried to understand if there was anything that we could pick up from the system. I think the nature of the education systems are very, very different, and they don't have the same number of local authorities. So, it's very difficult to pick up one model and plant it on here, but I do think that what we have recognised is learning on the job and really understanding that practical application of education is something that is beneficial. I've just been to an engineering presentation upstairs where they were saying precisely that - experiential learning actually really engrains the learning in the student. That's why we have really put the emphasis on the apprenticeship model. That's why I think we're very proud of what we've been able to deliver on this and why we are very keen to make sure that we deliver on the 100,000 apprenticeships that we promised during this Assembly term.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Cyfarfûm yn ddiweddar â diwydiannau o'r Almaen i drafod y mater hwn. Fe wnaethant gyflwyno eu model o'r hyn sy'n fodel llwyddiannus yn yr Almaen. Gwn fod fy rhagflaenydd yn y rôl hon wedi bod yn yr Almaen mewn gwirionedd ac wedi edrych ar y model a cheisio deall a oedd unrhyw beth y gallem ei ddysgu o'r system. Rwy'n credu bod natur y systemau addysg yn wahanol iawn, ac nid oes ganddynt yr un nifer o awdurdodau lleol. Felly, mae'n anodd iawn dewis un model a'i blannu yma, ond credaf mai'r hyn rydym wedi'i gydnabod yw bod dysgu yn y swydd a deall y ffordd honno o gymhwyso addysg yn ymarferol yn rhywbeth sy'n fuddiol. Rwyf newydd fod mewn cyflwyniad peirianneg i fyny'r grisiau lle roeddent yn dweud yn union hynny - fod dysgu trwy brofiad o'r fath yn gwreiddio'r dysgu yn y myfyriwr. Dyna pam y rhoesom bwyslais go iawn ar y model prentisiaeth. Dyna pam rwy'n credu ein bod ni'n falch iawn o'r hyn y gallasom ei gyflawni ar hyn a pham ein bod yn awyddus iawn i sicrhau ein bod yn cyflawni'r 100,000 o brentisiaethau a addawyd gennym yn ystod tymor y Cynulliad hwn.