English: I would just like to start, perhaps, by reflecting on Logan Mwangi's former headteacher's words about him, calling him 'a gorgeous little boy' with a 'cheeky smile' who 'loved to talk'. Often, we forget about Logan himself. We've all seen pictures of him, but to hear about his personality and how he was happy at school, contrary to what his mother was saying, was behaving in school and enjoying himself, and yet, his life was cut tragically short from those who should have been protecting him and loving him and caring for him - . I echo all the sentiments already expressed by the Deputy Minister and by Gareth Davies in terms of thinking of his father in particular, and his family and friends, wishing that they too would have been able to intervene, as many, many of those who came into contact with him, I'm sure, are reflecting on from reading the review. I think the thing that struck me reading the review was the fact that a series of opportunities were missed to protect, and crucially that it was expressed that Logan's voice was not heard, that we weren't listening to this little boy, whereas we are trying to ensure here in Wales that absolutely the rights of the child - that every child is aware of those. Yet, here we are: a child whose voice wasn't heard. So for me, I would like to get greater clarity today. I know that you have responded in terms of Gareth Davies's point in terms of an independent inquiry, but I don't understand why that independent inquiry isn't taking place. It doesn't stop you from being able to implement the recommendations if there are further reviews taking place. And, time and time again since I've been elected here, I've heard the First Minister say that we won't have an independent inquiry into COVID, and rejecting calls for an independent inquiry into the 2020 floods, though we do have a review in the co-operation agreement between both our parties. So, what are the circumstances when Welsh Government will actually instigate an independent inquiry, if not in cases like this? This is so that we look at the breadth of things, and that can take into account as well the steps that are already being taken, that have been learnt from other reviews. But worrying for me was hearing the children's commissioner state that these recommendations we've seen before in previous reports. We've heard commitments previously saying that lessons will be learned and we'll have changes, and yet these recommendations are still coming through. I think we need to understand from an inquiry why that's the case. So, I would ask you, Deputy Minister, to reconsider, because it's not a political point; I'm not saying this, this is what experts are telling us, this is what social workers on the ground are telling us, this is what the NSPCC have been telling us. So, this is very much something that I think every one of us should be open to - scrutiny and independent inquiries - and I'm concerned, yet again, to hear the Deputy Minister state that this isn't something that the Welsh Government is going to be taking forward. I would also like to mention NSPCC Wales's call for a clear and resourced road map to transform children's social care. They've asked in the briefing that they supplied to all of us for Welsh Government to commit to publishing a detailed, entirely resourced road map transforming children's social care, with measurable outcomes, within the next six months. Is this something that the Deputy Minister can commit to today? I also wanted to reflect on the worrying aspect of the report where it referenced Logan's race and ethnicity in particular, mentioning his father Ben Mwangi's Kenyan heritage, and the part in the report that says, 'Professionals did not fully explore the context ofrace and ethnicity' in this case. Well, we know that, across Government, we are committed to working towards an anti-racist Wales, but yet again, in this case, it's not something that comes through strongly in the statement today either, but something that we truly need to consider and ensure that that is at the forefront of the minds of everyone who comes into contact with a child in circumstances such as this. So, in terms of Plaid Cymru's position, we do want to see an independent inquiry. We fully support the changes that are being implemented, but we are concerned, knowing, as has been raised by agencies with us, the concerns around the lack of a child poverty strategy here in Wales, knowing, with the cost-of-living crisis as well, that more families are going to be placed in difficult circumstances, with an increased risk of abuse and neglect for children. So, therefore, can I please ask that you do reconsider your position in terms of that independent inquiry, implement the recommendations, but please also progress on that independent inquiry?
Welsh: Fe hoffwn i ddechrau, efallai, trwy fyfyrio ar eiriau cyn-brifathro Logan Mwangi amdano, a oedd yn ei alw yn 'fachgen bach annwyl' gyda 'gwên ddireidus' a oedd 'wrth ei fodd yn siarad'. Yn aml, rydym ni'n anghofio am Logan ei hun. Rydym ni i gyd wedi gweld lluniau ohono, ond roedd clywed am ei bersonoliaeth a pha mor hapus yr oedd yn yr ysgol, yn wahanol iawn i'r hyn yr oedd ei fam yn ei ddweud, roedd yn ymddwyn yn yr ysgol ac yn mwynhau ei hun yno, ac eto, fe ddaeth ei fywyd i ben yn resynus o ifanc gan y rhai hynny a ddylai fod wedi bod yn ei warchod a'i garu ac yn gofalu amdano - . Rwy'n adleisio'r holl deimladau a fynegwyd eisoes gan y Dirprwy Weinidog a Gareth Davies o ran meddwl yn arbennig am ei dad, a'i deulu a'i ffrindiau, gan deimlo trueni nad oedden nhw wedi gallu ymyrryd ychwaith, fel llawer, llawer iawn o'r rhai a ddaeth i gysylltiad ag ef, rwy'n siŵr, yn ei deimlo hefyd o ddarllen yr adolygiad. Rwy'n credu mai'r hyn a'm trawodd i wrth ddarllen yr adolygiad oedd y ffaith bod llawer o gyfleoedd wedi eu colli i'w amddiffyn, ac yn hollbwysig fe fynegwyd nad oedd llais Logan wedi cael ei glywed, nad oeddem ni wedi gwrando ar y bachgen bach hwn, er ein bod ni yng Nghymru yn ceisio sicrhau bod hawliau'r plentyn yn llwyr - bod pob plentyn yn ymwybodol o'r rhain. Ac eto, dyma ni: dyma blentyn na chlywyd ei lais. Felly i mi, fe hoffwn i fod â mwy o eglurder heddiw. Rwy'n gwybod eich bod chi wedi ymateb o ran pwynt Gareth Davies o ran ymchwiliad annibynnol, ond nid wyf i'n deall pam nad yw'r ymchwiliad annibynnol hwnnw'n mynd rhagddo. Nid yw bodolaeth adolygiadau pellach cyfredol yn eich rhwystro chi rhag gallu rhoi'r argymhellion hyn ar waith. A thro ar ôl tro ers i mi gael fy ethol yma, rwyf i wedi clywed y Prif Weinidog yn dweud na fydd gennym ni ymchwiliad annibynnol i COVID, ac yn gwrthod galwadau am ymchwiliad annibynnol i lifogydd 2020, er bod adolygiad gennym ni yn y cytundeb cydweithredu rhwng ein dwy blaid. Felly beth allai'r amgylchiadau fod a fyddai'n gwneud i Lywodraeth Cymru sefydlu ymchwiliad annibynnol, os nad mewn achosion fel hyn? Mae hyn er mwyn edrych ar bethau yn eu llawnder, ac fe all hynny ystyried hefyd y camau a gymerwyd eisoes, a ddysgwyd o adolygiadau eraill. Ond yr hyn sy'n fy mhoeni i oedd clywed y comisiynydd plant yn dweud ein bod ni wedi gweld yr argymhellion eisoes mewn adroddiadau blaenorol. Rydym ni wedi clywed ymrwymiadau o'r blaen yn dweud y bydd gwersi yn cael eu dysgu ac y bydd newidiadau, ac eto mae'r argymhellion hyn yn parhau i ddod i'r golwg. Rwy'n credu bod angen i ni ddeall o ymchwiliad pam allai hynny fod. Felly, rwyf i am ofyn i chi, Dirprwy Weinidog, ailystyried, oherwydd nid pwynt gwleidyddol mohono; nid y fi sy'n dweud hyn, dyma y mae arbenigwyr yn ei ddweud wrthym ni, dyma y mae gweithwyr cymdeithasol ar lawr gwlad yn ei ddweud wrthym ni, dyma y mae'r NSPCC wedi bod yn ei ddweud wrthym ni. Felly, mae hynny'n rhywbeth pwysig rwy'n credu y dylai pob un ohonom ni fod yn agored iddo - craffu ac ymchwiliadau annibynnol - ac rwy'n bryderus, unwaith eto, o glywed y Dirprwy Weinidog yn dweud nad yw hyn yn rhywbeth y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn ei ddatblygu. Fe hoffwn i sôn hefyd am alwad NSPCC Cymru am fap ffordd eglur a llawn o ran adnoddau ar gyfer trawsnewid gofal cymdeithasol plant. Maen nhw wedi gofyn yn y briff a roddwyd ganddyn nhw i bob un ohonom ni i Lywodraeth Cymru ymrwymo i gyhoeddi map ffordd manwl, cwbl eglur o drawsnewid gofal cymdeithasol plant, gyda chanlyniadau mesuradwy, o fewn y chwe mis nesaf. A yw hyn yn rhywbeth y gall y Dirprwy Weinidog ymrwymo iddo heddiw? Roeddwn i'n awyddus i ystyried hefyd un agwedd bryderus yn yr adroddiad lle'r oedd yn cyfeirio yn arbennig at hil ac ethnigrwydd Logan, gan sôn am dreftadaeth ei dad, Ben Mwangi, sy'n dod o Kenya, a'r rhan yn yr adroddiad sy'n dweud, 'Nid oedd gweithwyr proffesiynol wedi archwilio yn llawn gyd-destunhil ac ethnigrwydd' yn yr achos hwn. Wel, fe wyddom ni, ar draws y Llywodraeth, ein bod ni wedi ymrwymo i weithio tuag at Gymru wrth-hiliol, ond unwaith eto, yn yr achos hwn, nid yw hynny'n rhywbeth sy'n dod drwodd yn gryf yn natganiad heddiw ychwaith, ond mae'n rhywbeth y mae gwir angen i ni ei ystyried a sicrhau ei fod yn flaenaf ym meddyliau pawb sy'n dod i gysylltiad â phlentyn mewn amgylchiadau fel hyn. Felly, o ran safbwynt Plaid Cymru, rydym ni'n dymuno gweld ymchwiliad annibynnol. Rydym ni'n llwyr gefnogi'r newidiadau sy'n cael eu gweithredu, ond rydym ni'n pryderu, o wybod, fel roedd asiantaethau yn eu codi nhw gyda ni, y pryderon ynghylch diffyg strategaeth tlodi plant yma yng Nghymru, gan wybod, gyda'r argyfwng costau byw hefyd, y bydd mwy o deuluoedd yn eu cael eu hunain mewn amgylchiadau anodd, gyda pherygl mwy o gamdriniaeth ac esgeulustod i blant. Felly, a gaf i ofyn i chi ailystyried eich safbwynt o ran yr ymchwiliad annibynnol hwnnw, a gweithredu'r argymhellion, ond, os gwelwch yn dda, symudwch ymlaen hefyd o ran yr ymchwiliad annibynnol hwnnw?