English: Thank you, Llywydd, and thank you for the opportunity to provide - the opportunity to debate and talk about hate crime, and the positive steps we're taking here in Wales. First of all, I sat and listened slightly astounded by the contribution that Neil made, and his colleague, around there, because you, like Paul Nuttall, describe the position of hate crime technically as a fabricated event, fabricated figures that the UK Government police agencies have published. And we can't get away from the fact that you can have an opinion on that, like I do, but the figures speak for themselves. I was taken aback at your comment - and maybe you'd want to clarify that, but you said about, in other countries, people burning down mosques. Then you went on to clarify that as being racist, but then you went on to say, shouting abuse on a bus, is that a real crime? I would say, 'Yes, it was', because if you look at YouTube videos - . The assault of individuals on buses is unacceptable wherever that is, to whatever race, colour or creed a person is. We cannot have and should not have a measured approach to what's acceptable and what isn't acceptable. This is all unacceptable Let me just put on record the figures that the Member quoted in terms of detail. I'm genuinely concerned about what's been happening since 2015, and the crime survey won't give us all the 2015-18 data until next year, but what we do have to hand are reliable figures of the number of reported hate crimes from the police forces in Wales, and from our national hate crime report and support centre. Both of these sources showed a clear spike in reported hate crime last summer around the time of the referendum. Since March this year, following the terror attacks in London and Manchester, these figures also show that there has also been another spike, albeit smaller, particularly in racially motivated hate crime. The Member cannot disagree with those figures. They are factual, and I'm really surprised - [Interruption.] Sorry, if the Member wishes to intervene, I'm more than happy for - .
Welsh: Diolch i chi, Llywydd, a diolch am y cyfle i ddarparu - y cyfle i drafod a siarad am droseddau casineb, a'r camau cadarnhaol rydym yn eu rhoi ar waith yma yng Nghymru. Yn gyntaf oll, eisteddais a gwrandewais wedi fy syfrdanu braidd gan gyfraniad Neil, a'i gyd-Aelod yno, oherwydd eich bod chi, fel Paul Nuttall, yn disgrifio troseddau casineb yn dechnegol fel digwyddiadau ffug, ffigurau ffug y mae asiantaethau heddlu Llywodraeth y DU wedi'u cyhoeddi. Ac ni allwn ddianc rhag y ffaith y gallwch gael barn ar hynny, fel sydd gennyf fi, ond mae'r ffigurau'n siarad drostynt eu hunain. Roeddwn yn synnu at eich sylw - ac efallai yr hoffech egluro hynny, ond fe sonioch am bobl yn llosgi mosgiau mewn gwledydd eraill. Yna aethoch yn eich blaen i egluro hynny fel rhywbeth hiliol, ond yna aethoch ymlaen i ddweud fod cam-drin geiriol wedi'i weiddi ar fws, a yw hynny'n drosedd go iawn? Byddwn yn dweud, 'Ydy, mae'n drosedd', oherwydd os edrychwch ar fideos YouTube - . Mae ymosod ar unigolion ar fysiau yn annerbyniol lle bynnag y bo hynny'n digwydd, pa hil, lliw neu gred bynnag yw'r unigolyn. Ni allwn gael, ac ni ddylwn gael ymagwedd fesuredig at yr hyn sy'n dderbyniol a'r hyn nad yw'n dderbyniol. Mae hyn i gyd yn annerbyniol. Gadewch i mi gofnodi'r ffigurau a ddyfynnodd yr Aelod o ran y manylion. Rwy'n pryderu o ddifrif am yr hyn sydd wedi bod yn digwydd ers 2015, ac ni fydd yr arolwg troseddau yn rhoi'r holl ddata rhwng 2015 a 2018 inni tan y flwyddyn nesaf, ond yr hyn sydd gennym wrth law yw ffigurau dibynadwy o nifer y troseddau casineb a gofnodwyd gan yr heddluoedd yng Nghymru, ac o'n canolfan genedlaethol cymorth ac adrodd am droseddau casineb. Dangosodd y ddwy ffynhonnell gynnydd sydyn a chlir yn nifer y troseddau casineb a gofnodwyd yr haf diwethaf oddeutu adeg y refferendwm. Ers mis Mawrth eleni, yn dilyn yr ymosodiadau terfysgol yn Llundain a Manceinion, mae'r ffigurau hyn hefyd yn dangos bod cynnydd sydyn arall, er yn llai, yn enwedig mewn achosion o droseddau casineb ar sail hil. Ni all yr Aelod anghytuno â'r ffigurau hynny. Maent yn ffeithiol, ac rwy'n synnu o ddifrif - [Torri ar draws.] Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, os yw'r Aelod yn dymuno ymyrryd, rwy'n fwy na bodlon i - .