English: I'd like to thank the Minister for bringing forward this statement today, the content of which is very welcome to us, because you have pinpointed with accuracy that lifestyle, transport, housing and design are vital elements of how we're going to be able to move forward in a more integrated way and to have a healthier Wales. It's very vital because home is going to be increasingly the place where our health and our social care needs are delivered, and of course, no single part of the system can possibly hope to answer all of our needs. Michael Marmot's 'Fair Society, Healthy Lives' really highlighted the significance of the wider issues that impact on health. In fact, they say often, don't they, that housing, employment and education are the causes of the causes of ill health. So, I think anything that Welsh Government, with the support of the Assembly, can do to tackle some of these issues is incredibly important. Having said all the nice words - and you'd be disappointed by anything else - I just want to challenge you on a couple of points and ask for some explanations in a couple of other areas. The parliamentary review of social care did indeed recognise the role that housing can play, however, your response, or the Government's response - 'A Healthier Wales' - your plan in response to that parliamentary review, had very, very little on housing. You talked about new partnerships between health and housing, you talked about area plans that would provide a robust platform, but perhaps you can give us a little bit more information about how crucial a role housing will be enabled to play in delivering this vision of a healthier Wales. You do make a very strong assertion that there's been a marked decrease in delayed transfers of care and I'd be really interested to know where those statistics have come, from because I've yet to be able to put my hand on my heart to say that that is there, because of course it's been one of the key components of our winter pressures and all the rest of it. We don't see it out there on the street and I'd like to know how you have that. You talk about upping the game with the fund and delivering larger projects and you talked about going out with the Minister for Children, Older People and Social Care and seeing new plans. Can you please tell us how you're going to ensure that local authority planning departments come on board with this? Time and time again in my area, I know of great initiatives that bring together housing and care that are being turned down by local planning authorities because they don't meet some criteria in the planning documentation. We've got to get over this and start building the houses that people really need. I absolutely welcome the £105 million of extra money to support this more scalable approach and it's really good to see that it's tying in across the whole of the United Kingdom, isn't it, because the UK Government have also announced this better care fund with a significantly larger sum of money, but they're a slightly larger country. So, it's good to see that everyone's going down - this is a good direction of travel. I would ask you to perhaps cast your eyes over David Melding's White Paper 'Liveable Cities', because it's from the Welsh Conservative think tank and it does, very much, focus on socially inclusive and environmentally sustainable homes and cities and environments that can be built on the principles of the health and well-being of the citizens. Going back to what are the causes of the causes of ill health - it is your home, it is your environment, your education and your employment prospects. Also, could you please, actually, just give us a quick bit of an overview on the adaptation side? You talk about the new fund, but we do, very often, have this scenario where a house is very expensively adapted for somebody who has needs, and when they move out, those adaptations are then ripped out, at great cost to us all, and then somebody else moves in to get a sort of baseline home. This is nonsense; surely we should just be making sure the appropriate person moves into that. Two more questions. What measurements do you have in place to measure the success of this extra funding? How will you know if it's hitting the nail on the head and doing what it should be doing and how are you going to apportion it across the areas of greatest needs or across the areas of Wales? And, finally, I come back to that planning authority and planning permission again. We do need different types of houses and we should be building homes that already have - either bungalows, or, if we're tight on space, we should have extra wide stairs going up so that you can put a stairlift in if you need to, because people want to stay in their home and they want to remain in that home. We're trying to encourage them to do that. We need to build homes where it is easier to put in hoists. We need to build homes where it is easier to adapt a kitchen. And those are the things that we need to start looking at in the design principles for our housing stock going forward if we truly want to buy in to the fact that people are going to stay in their home, they're going to receive their healthcare in their home, they're going to receive their social care in their home, hopefully until the end of their days. This is a great direction of travel, it's a good initiative, but I'd really like to see some teeth put into this, because it's a lot of money and I'm worried that we won't achieve what we need to achieve.
Welsh: Hoffwn ddiolch i'r Gweinidog am gyflwyno'r datganiad hwn heddiw, ac rydym yn croesawu'r cynnwys yn fawr, oherwydd rydych chi wedi taro'r hoelen ar ei phen, o ran y ffaith bod ffordd o fyw, trafnidiaeth, tai a dylunio yn elfennau hanfodol o sut yr ydym ni'n mynd i allu symud ymlaen mewn ffordd fwy integredig, ac i greu Cymru iachach. Mae'n hanfodol iawn oherwydd gartref fydd anghenion iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol yn cael eu darparu yn gynyddol, ac wrth gwrs, ni all unrhyw un rhan o'r system obeithio ateb ein holl anghenion. Gwnaeth 'Fair Society, Healthy Lives' Michael Marmot amlygu arwyddocâd y materion ehangach sy'n effeithio ar iechyd. Yn wir, maen nhw'n dweud yn aml, on'd ydyn nhw, mai tai, cyflogaeth ac addysg sy'n achosi'r hyn sy'n achosi salwch. Rwy'n credu felly, bod unrhyw beth y gall Llywodraeth Cymru ei wneud, gyda chefnogaeth y Cynulliad, i fynd i'r afael â rhai o'r materion hyn, yn eithriadol o bwysig. Ar ôl dweud yr holl eiriau caredig - a byddech yn cael eich siomi gan unrhyw beth arall - rwyf eisiau eich herio chi ar un neu ddau o bwyntiau a gofyn am rai esboniadau mewn ychydig o feysydd eraill. Fe wnaeth yr arolwg seneddol o ofal cymdeithasol yn wir gydnabod y rhan y gallai tai ei chwarae, ond, nid oedd llawer iawn o gwbl am dai yn eich ymateb chi, neu ymateb y Llywodraeth - 'Cymru Iachach' - eich cynllun chi yn ymateb i'r adolygiad seneddol hwnnw. Fe wnaethoch chi sôn am bartneriaethau newydd rhwng iechyd a thai, ac fe wnaethoch chi sôn am gynlluniau ardal a fyddai'n darparu cyfrwng cadarn, ond efallai y gallwch chi roi ychydig bach mwy o wybodaeth inni am ba mor allweddol fydd swyddogaeth tai yn gallu bod wrth gyflawni'r weledigaeth hon o Gymru iachach. Rydych chi'n gwneud honiad cryf iawn y bu gostyngiad nodedig o ran oedi wrth drosglwyddo gofal a byddai gennyf wir ddiddordeb mewn gwybod o ble y daeth yr ystadegau hynny, oherwydd dydw i ddim hyd yn hyn yn gallu rhoi fy llaw ar fy nghalon a dweud eu bod yn bodoli, oherwydd, wrth gwrs, bu'n un o elfennau allweddol y pwysau yn ystod y gaeaf ac yn y blaen. Dydyn ni ddim yn ei weld allan yn y fan honno ar y stryd a hoffwn i wybod sut y mae gennych chi. Rydych chi'n sôn am wella perfformiad gyda'r gronfa a chyflawni prosiectau mwy o faint ac fe wnaethoch chi sôn am fynd allan gyda'r Gweinidog Plant, Pobl Hŷn a Gofal Cymdeithasol a gweld cynlluniau newydd. A allwch chi ddweud wrthym ni sut yr ydych chi'n mynd i sicrhau bod adrannau cynllunio awdurdodau lleol yn ymuno â ni ar hyn? Dro ar ôl tro yn fy ardal i, rwy'n gwybod am fentrau gwych sy'n dwyn ynghyd tai a gofal sy'n cael eu gwrthod gan awdurdodau cynllunio lleol oherwydd nad ydyn nhw'n bodloni ryw faen prawf yn y dogfennau cynllunio. Mae'n rhaid inni oresgyn hyn a dechrau adeiladu'r tai y mae pobl eu hangen mewn gwirionedd. Rwy'n croesawu'n fawr y £105 miliwn o arian ychwanegol i gefnogi'r dull mwy ymestynnol hwn ac mae'n dda iawn gweld ei fod yn cysylltu â gweddill y Deyrnas Unedig, on'd yw, oherwydd mae Llywodraeth y DU hefyd wedi cyhoeddi'r gronfa gofal gwell hon gyda swm llawer mwy o arian, ond maen nhw'n wlad ychydig yn fwy. Felly, mae'n dda gweld bod pawb yn dilyn - mae hwn yn gyfeiriad da i fynd iddo. Byddwn yn gofyn i chi efallai fwrw golwg ar Bapur Gwyn David Melding 'Dinasoedd Byw', oherwydd mae wedi dod o felin drafod y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig ac mae'n canolbwyntio'n helaeth ar gartrefi sy'n gynhwysol yn gymdeithasol ac sy'n amgylcheddol gynaliadwy a dinasoedd ac amgylcheddau y gellir eu hadeiladu ar egwyddorion iechyd a lles dinasyddion. Gan fynd yn ôl i'r hyn sy'n achosi yr hyn sy'n achosi afiechyd - eich cartref, eich amgylchedd, eich addysg a'ch rhagolygon o ran cyflogaeth yw hynny. Hefyd, os gwelwch yn dda, a wnewch chi, mewn gwirionedd, roi ychydig o drosolwg cyflym ar yr ochr ymaddasu? Rydych chi'n sôn am y gronfa newydd, ond mae gennym ni, yn aml iawn, y senario hwn lle caiff tŷ ei addasu yn gostus iawn i rywun sydd ag anghenion, a phan fydd yn symud allan, caiff yr addasiadau hynny wedyn eu rhwygo allan, ar gost fawr i ni i gyd, ac yna bydd rhywun arall yn symud i mewn i gael ryw fath o gartref sylfaenol. Mae hyn yn nonsens; siawns na ddylem ni fod yn gwneud yn siŵr bod yr unigolyn priodol yn symud i mewn i hwnnw. Dau gwestiwn arall. Pa fesuriadau sydd gennych ar waith i fesur llwyddiant yr arian ychwanegol hwn? Sut y byddwch chi'n gwybod a yw'n taro'r hoelen ar ei phen ac yn gwneud yr hyn y dylai ei wneud a sut rydych chi'n mynd i'w ddosrannu ar draws y meysydd lle ceir yr anghenion mwyaf neu ar draws ardaloedd Cymru? Ac, yn olaf, rwy'n dod yn ôl i'r awdurdod cynllunio hwnnw a chaniatâd cynllunio unwaith eto. Mae angen gwahanol fathau o dai arnom ni a dylem ni fod yn adeiladu cartrefi sydd eisoes â - naill ai byngalos, neu, os ydym ni'n brin o le, dylai fod gennym risiau llydan iawn yn mynd i fyny er mwyn gallu gosod lifft grisiau os bydd angen i chi wneud hynny, oherwydd mae pobl eisiau aros yn eu cartref ac maen nhw eisiau parhau i fyw yn y cartref hwnnw. Rydym ni'n ceisio eu hannog i wneud hynny. Mae angen inni adeiladu cartrefi lle mae'n haws gosod teclynnau codi ynddynt. Mae angen inni adeiladu cartrefi lle mae'n haws i addasu cegin. A dyna'r pethau y mae angen inni ddechrau eu hystyried yn yr egwyddorion dylunio ar gyfer ein stoc dai yn y dyfodol os ydym ni wir eisiau cefnogi'r ffaith bod pobl yn mynd i aros yn eu cartrefi, eu bod nhw'n mynd i gael eu gofal iechyd yn eu cartrefi, eu bod nhw'n mynd i gael eu gofal cymdeithasol yn eu cartrefi, gobeithio tan ddiwedd eu hoes. Mae hwn yn gyfeiriad gwych i fynd iddo, mae'n fenter dda, ond mewn gwirionedd, hoffwn i ei gweld yn cael ei chryfhau, oherwydd mae'n llawer o arian ac rwy'n poeni na fyddwn ni'n cyflawni'r hyn y mae angen inni ei gyflawni.