English: Your point is made, but your point is incorrect. Unless you disbelieve Joyce Watson, Caroline Jones and others who have said in this Chamber that they did not receive a letter, amendment 2 is factually incorrect, and I invite you again to withdraw it, because it is just wrong. The Department for Work and Pensions have said that there were many women who were not corresponded with. Now, Mark Isherwood, you speak in one way and then the amendments that you're placing are contradictory, in a sense, to what you've said. You've described to us what you said was a historical case, you've described to us what should have happened, and on all of the points of legislation, yes, you were correct, but the issue is not the legislation, the issue is not equalising the age - the issue is that women should've been told when they had time to plan. And far be it for me to defend the Labour Party, because, as you know, this is not my habit, but on this occasion, it is not their fault. Goodness knows it often is - [ Laughter.] - but on this occasion, it is not their fault. To draw my remarks to a close, Llywydd, I again invite the Conservatives to withdraw their second amendment, because it is factually inaccurate. I urge this Assembly to oppose both their amendments. And my final message, Llywydd, is to all the women so affected. I urge every single woman in this age group who did not get a letter to register your complaint with the Department for Work and Pensions. Every one of those, if Jane Hutt's figures are correct - and I relied on figures from the House of Commons, so I suppose it's not surprising that it's an underestimate - every single one of those almost 200,000 women: register your complaint. By doing so you become by implication part of the process that's subject to judicial review. I would urge you to go and talk to your Assembly Member or MP to get some assistance with that process. You may consider that that isn't a very sensible thing to do if your Assembly Member or MP is a Conservative. I urge you, all these women, to demand your rights, and the majority of us will stand with you as you do. [ Applause.]
Welsh: Rydych wedi gwneud eich pwynt, ond mae eich pwynt yn anghywir. Oni bai eich bod yn amau Joyce Watson, Caroline Jones ac eraill sydd wedi dweud yn y Siambr hon na chawsant llythyr, mae gwelliant 2 yn ffeithiol anghywir, ac rwy'n eich gwahodd eto i'w dynnu'n ôl, oherwydd mae'n anghywir. Mae'r Adran Gwaith a Phensiynau wedi dweud nad anfonwyd gohebiaeth at lawer o fenywod. Nawr, Mark Isherwood, rydych yn siarad mewn un ffordd ac yna mae'r gwelliannau rydych yn eu cyflwyno'n gwrthddweud yr hyn a ddywedasoch, mewn un ystyr. Rydych wedi disgrifio'r hyn y dywedasoch ei fod yn achos hanesyddol, rydych wedi disgrifio beth ddylai fod wedi digwydd, ac ar bob un o'r pwyntiau cyfreithiol, oeddech, roeddech yn gywir, ond nid y ddeddfwriaeth yw'r broblem, nid cydraddoli'r oedran yw'r broblem - y broblem yw y dylid bod wedi dweud wrth fenywod pan oedd ganddynt amser i gynllunio. Ac nid fy lle i yw amddiffyn y Blaid Lafur, oherwydd, fel y gwyddoch, nid dyna fy arfer, ond ar yr achlysur hwn, nid eu bai hwy yw hyn. Dyn a ŵyr mae'n fai arnynt hwy yn aml - [ C hwerthin.] - ond ar yr achlysur hwn, nid eu bai hwy yw hyn. I ddod â fy sylwadau i fwcwl, Lywydd, rwyf eto'n gwahodd y Ceidwadwyr i dynnu eu hail welliant yn ôl am ei fod yn ffeithiol anghywir. Rwy'n annog y Cynulliad i wrthwynebu eu dau welliant. Ac mae fy neges i gloi, Lywydd, i'r holl fenywod yr effeithiwyd arnynt. Rwy'n annog pob dynes yn y grŵp oedran hwn na chafodd lythyr i gofrestru eich cwyn gyda'r Adran Gwaith a Phensiynau. Pob un o'r rheini, os yw ffigurau Jane Hutt yn gywir - ac rwy'n dibynnu ar ffigurau o Dŷ'r Cyffredin, felly mae'n debyg nad yw'n syndod ei fod yn amcangyfrif rhy isel - pob un o'r bron 200,000 o fenywod hynny: cofrestrwch eich cwyn. Drwy wneud hynny, byddwch yn dod yn sgil hynny'n rhan o'r broses sy'n ddarostyngedig i adolygiad barnwrol. Rwy'n eich annog i fynd i siarad â'ch Aelod Cynulliad neu eich Aelod Seneddol i gael rhywfaint o gymorth gyda'r broses honno. Efallai y byddwch yn ystyried nad yw hynny'n beth synhwyrol iawn i'w wneud os yw eich Aelod Cynulliad neu eich Aelod Seneddol yn Geidwadwr. Rwy'n eich annog, yr holl fenywod hyn, i fynnu eich hawliau, a bydd y rhan fwyaf ohonom yn sefyll gyda chi pan wnewch hynny. [ Cymeradwyaeth.]