English: Diolch, Llywydd, and can I thank Members for that thoughtful discussion? I think, with one exception, there was support in principle for the proposal we've brought forward this afternoon. But Members are right, it's the job of the Senedd now to scrutinise the detail of this, to stress-test it, to kick the tyres, if you like, to make sure that this is as strong as it can be, and I'm certainly keen to work with all Members to try and answer questions and concerns they have so that we get this right. It's the reason why I set up an expert panel over the course of a year to rigorously go through this, to understand how we can make it workable. Alongside the report today, we are publishing an evidence review by Dr Adrian Davis, as well as a report by the Public Policy Institute for Wales, also looking at the evidence. So, the claim by David Rowlands that this is based on just a few months' research and that the evidence is far from proven, I'm afraid is not the case, and I was disappointed by his contribution. I'm just trying to work through the issues that have been raised. Russell George asked, 'Are we using a sledgehammer to crack a nut?' It's interesting, isn't it, if 800 children a year were killed or seriously injured in any other setting, I wonder what the response of the Senedd would be. FootnoteLink I wonder what the response of the newspapers and the media would be. I wonder if we'd see mass demonstrations. But somehow we've come to accept road casualties and deaths on our roads from cars as commonplace, as something we just accept as a price of doing business. I notice the Brexit Party have put out a tweet this afternoon saying Wales can't afford to go any slower. I deprecate the tendency by some on the right to try and use this as part of the culture wars that they're trying to fight out here. I know David Rowlands - apart from the issue of Europe, which I profoundly disagree with him on - to be a reasonable man. So, to hear the speech he gave, which started off reasonable enough but turned into a contribution on a radio phone-in by the end, I thought, was surprising. Rhun ap Iorwerth said the evidence is clear and the evidence is strong. Janet Finch-Saunders made the point it's a commonsense and safe move, and I think the opinion polls bear this out. This is a widely welcomed and accepted intervention. There are concerns around resources and concerns around enforcement, and I think those are legitimate concerns. At the moment, we spend an awful lot of resources but on engineering, on hard interventions, and the evidence is that we've probably achieved as much as we're going to achieve from that approach. The road casualty reduction figures have slowed and there's now a stubborn residual level of casualties that that approach does not seem to be able to tackle with any great dynamism.
Welsh: Diolch, Llywydd, ac a gaf i ddiolch i'r Aelodau am y drafodaeth feddylgar honno? Rwy'n credu, gydag un eithriad, bod cefnogaeth mewn egwyddor i'r cynnig yr ydym ni wedi ei gyflwyno y prynhawn yma. Ond mae'r Aelodau yn iawn, gwaith y Senedd yn awr yw craffu ar fanylion hyn, profi straen, cicio'r teiars, os mynnwch chi, i sicrhau bod hyn mor gryf ag y gall fod, ac rwy'n sicr yn awyddus i weithio gyda phob Aelod i geisio ateb y cwestiynau a'r pryderon sydd ganddyn nhw er mwyn i ni wneud hyn yn iawn. Dyma'r rheswm i mi gymryd blwyddyn i sefydlu panel arbenigol i fynd drwy hyn yn drylwyr, er mwyn deall sut y gallwn ni ei wneud yn ymarferol. Ynghyd â'r adroddiad heddiw, rydym ni'n cyhoeddi adolygiad o dystiolaeth gan Dr Adrian Davis, yn ogystal ag adroddiad gan Sefydliad Polisi Cyhoeddus Cymru, sydd hefyd yn edrych ar y dystiolaeth. Felly, mae'r honiad gan David Rowlands bod hyn wedi ei seilio ar ychydig fisoedd yn unig o ymchwil a bod y dystiolaeth ymhell o fod wedi ei phrofi, mae arnaf ofn yn anghywir, a chefais fy siomi gan ei gyfraniad. Rwy'n ceisio gweithio drwy'r materion sydd wedi eu codi. Gofynnodd Russell George, 'A ydym ni'n defnyddio gordd i dorri cneuen?' Mae'n ddiddorol, onid yw, pe byddai 800 o blant y flwyddyn yn cael eu lladd neu eu hanafu'n ddifrifol mewn unrhyw sefyllfa arall, tybed beth fyddai ymateb y Senedd. Footnotelink Tybed beth fyddai ymateb y papurau newydd a'r cyfryngau. Tybed a fyddem ni'n gweld torfeydd yn protestio. Ond rhywsut rydym ni wedi dod i dderbyn bod anafiadau ar ein ffyrdd a marwolaethau ar ein ffyrdd gan geir yn rhywbeth cyffredin, fel rhywbeth yr ydym ni'n ei dderbyn fel pris gwneud busnes. Rwy'n sylwi bod plaid Brexit wedi cyhoeddi neges trydar y prynhawn yma i ddweud na all Cymru fforddio mynd yn arafach. Rwy'n gwrthwynebu'r duedd gan rai ar y dde i geisio defnyddio hyn yn rhan o'r rhyfeloedd diwylliant y maen nhw'n ceisio eu hymladd yn y fan yma. Rwy'n gwybod bod David Rowlands - ar wahân i fater Ewrop, yr wyf i'n anghytuno'n llwyr ag ef yn ei gylch - yn ddyn rhesymol. Felly, roedd clywed yr araith a roddodd, a ddechreuodd yn ddigon rhesymol ond a drodd yn gyfraniad at raglen ffonio'r radio erbyn y diwedd, yn syndod i mi. Dywedodd Rhun ap Iorwerth fod y dystiolaeth yn glir a bod y dystiolaeth yn gryf. Gwnaeth Janet Finch-Saunders y pwynt ei fod yn synnwyr cyffredin ac yn gam diogel, ac rwy'n credu bod yr arolygon barn yn cadarnhau hyn. Caiff yr ymyriad hwn ei groesawu a'i dderbyn yn eang. Ceir pryderon ynghylch adnoddau a phryderon ynghylch gorfodi, ac rwy'n credu eu bod nhw yn bryderon dilys. Ar hyn o bryd, rydym ni'n gwario llawer iawn o adnoddau ond ar beirianneg, ar ymyriadau caled, a'r dystiolaeth yw ein bod ni fwy na thebyg wedi cyflawni cymaint ag y gallwn ei gyflawni o'r dull hwnnw. Mae'r ffigurau ar gyfer lleihau nifer y bobl a gaiff eu hanafu mewn damweiniau ar y ffyrdd wedi arafu ac erbyn hyn mae lefel weddilliol ystyfnig o bobl sy'n cael eu hanafu nad yw'n ymddangos bod y dull hwnnw yn gallu ei lleihau â rhyw lawer o ddynamiaeth.