English: I'll be supporting the motion. Just to outline my experience of dealing with Natural Resources Wales, back in September 2017 - the very first meeting about the nuclear mud. Honestly, I really had absolute confidence that the officials of NRW would be able to assuage my concerns about the mud and the testing regime, and so on. They knew nothing about the testing, despite being the body issuing the licence. They didn't know what kind of testing was done. They didn't know where the testing was done. They couldn't tell me to what depth. They couldn't tell me where the mud would end up. But they assured me nevertheless that it was safe, without knowing any of the detail. It was so bad it was the only time in my professional career where I offered to adjourn the meeting until I could maybe get an answer. The Roath brook campaign - the desolation, the desecration of a park in Cardiff, and the destruction of very valuable trees. I went to a meeting with NRW with the new Minister. You could tell she was new because she just accepted what the officials were saying - that there was no alternative. [ Interruption.] With respect, all the meetings I've attended - . [ Interruption.] I'll give way if you wish. I'll happily give way. What we were told in the meeting was that there was no alternative. Again, in my entire career, I've never had an official tell me there's no alternative and not challenge it. That's what we were told. But, as time has transpired, as matters have moved on, we've seen that there are in fact very good alternatives to what is proposed at the Roath brook. If we look at the wood contracts, I'll tell you what, I would commend NRW, because they've done pretty well in awarding a contract to a company that didn't even apply for it. Well done. Well done on that. Seriously, Grant Thornton found that their behaviour had heightened exposure to the risk of fraud. I remember being criticised back in the autumn of, I think it was 2017, again, when I objected to the shotgun retirement of the chief executive when there was this matter of the accounts not being qualified and, as I said, the company that hadn't applied for the contract being awarded the contract. Yet, the chief executive was allowed to swan off into the sunset with a package. I really didn't understand why I was criticised back then for attacking that. I still don't know. On a personal level - I don't think Members will know this - Natural Resources Wales have breached my data protection personally as a politician in Wales. I phoned up one time and was considering making a complaint about a particular matter, and then I found out later that a Member of this Assembly, a politician here, was briefed about my call - unbelievable. Unbelievable, and that matter has still not been resolved yet. I know that the person was briefed because I saw the e-mail that somebody wrote about the briefing. So, you've got all these things swirling around. This is an extremely serious matter. The nuclear mud will be coming back to - [ Interruption.] I know it's a bit of a grind for some of you to listen to this, but please, please bear with me. As I said, this is a really important matter. The issue of the nuclear mud will be coming back. You may not like it coming back, but it will be coming back. I fully support this motion. Diolch yn fawr.
Welsh: Byddaf yn cefnogi'r cynnig. I amlinellu fy mhrofiad o ymdrin â Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru, yn ôl ym mis Medi 2017 - y cyfarfod cyntaf un am y mwd niwclear. I fod yn onest, roedd gennyf hyder llwyr y byddai swyddogion Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru yn gallu lleddfu fy mhryderon am y mwd a'r drefn cynnal profion, ac yn y blaen. Nid oeddent yn gwybod dim am y profion, er mai hwy oedd y corff a oedd yn rhoi'r drwydded. Nid oeddent yn gwybod pa fath o brofion a gâi eu gwneud. Nid oeddent yn gwybod ble y câi'r profion eu cynnal. Ni allent ddweud wrthyf ar ba ddyfnder. Ni allent ddweud wrthyf lle byddai'r mwd yn y pen draw. Ond gwnaethant fy sicrhau serch hynny ei fod yn ddiogel heb wybod dim o'r manylion. Roedd mor ddrwg fel mai dyna'r unig dro yn fy ngyrfa broffesiynol y cynigiais ohirio'r cyfarfod hyd nes y gallwn gael ateb. Ymgyrch nant y Rhath - y niwed, difetha parc yng Nghaerdydd, a dinistrio coed gwerthfawr iawn. Euthum i gyfarfod â Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru gyda'r Gweinidog newydd. Gallech ddweud ei bod hi'n newydd oherwydd roedd hi'n derbyn popeth roedd y swyddogion yn ei ddweud - nad oedd dewis arall. [ Torri ar draws.] Gyda phob parch, roedd yr holl gyfarfodydd a fynychais - . [ Torri ar draws.] Fe ildiaf os dymunwch. Rwy'n hapus i ildio. Yr hyn a ddywedwyd wrthym yn y cyfarfod oedd nad oedd unrhyw ddewis arall. Unwaith eto, yn fy ngyrfa gyfan, nid wyf erioed wedi cael swyddog yn dweud wrthyf nad oes dewis arall heb ei herio. Dyna a ddywedwyd wrthym. Ond fel y mae amser wedi dangos, wrth i bethau symud yn eu blaenau, rydym wedi gweld bod dewisiadau eraill da iawn i'r hyn a gynigir o ran nant y Rhath. Os edrychwn ar y contractau pren, wyddoch chi beth, fe fuaswn yn canmol Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru, oherwydd maent wedi gwneud yn bur dda yn dyfarnu contract i gwmni na wnaeth gais amdano hyd yn oed. Da iawn. Da iawn ar hynny. O ddifrif, canfu Grant Thornton fod eu hymddygiad wedi cynyddu'r risg o dwyll. Rwy'n cofio cael fy meirniadu yn ôl ym mis hydref 2017, rwy'n credu, unwaith eto pan wrthwynebais ymddeoliad dan orfodaeth y prif weithredwr pan gododd mater gosod amodau ar gyfrifon, ac fel y dywedais, dyfarnu'r contract i gwmni nad oedd wedi gwneud cais am y contract. Eto, caniatawyd i'r prif weithredwr hwylio tuag at y gorwel gyda'i becyn tâl. Nid oeddwn yn deall pam y cawn fy meirniadu yn ôl bryd hynny am ymosod ar hynny. Nid wyf yn gwybod hyd y dydd heddiw. Ar lefel bersonol - nid wyf yn credu y bydd yr Aelodau'n gwybod hyn - mae Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru wedi tramgwyddo yn erbyn fy niogelwch data personol fel gwleidydd yng Nghymru. Ffoniais ar un adeg ac roeddwn yn ystyried gwneud cwyn am fater penodol, ac yna cefais wybod yn nes ymlaen bod Aelod o'r Cynulliad hwn, gwleidydd yma, wedi cael eu briffio ynglŷn â fy ngalwad - anghredadwy. Anghredadwy, ac nid yw'r mater hwnnw byth wedi'i ddatrys. Rwy'n gwybod bod y person wedi cael ei friffio oherwydd gwelais yr e-bost a ysgrifennodd rhywun am y sesiwn friffio. Felly, mae gennych yr holl bethau hyn yn chwyrlïo o'n cwmpas. Mae hwn yn fater eithriadol o ddifrifol. Bydd y mwd niwclear yn dod yn ôl - [ T orri ar draws.] Gwn ei fod yn dreth braidd ar rai ohonoch i wrando ar hyn, ond byddwch yn amyneddgar os gwelwch yn dda. Fel y dywedais, mae hwn yn fater hynod bwysig. Bydd mater y mwd niwclear yn dychwelyd. Efallai na fyddwch yn hoffi'r ffaith y bydd yn dychwelyd, ond fe fydd yn dychwelyd. Rwy'n cefnogi'r cynnig hwn yn llwyr. Diolch yn fawr.