English: I will be voting in support of introducing the COVID pass, and I want to repeat that: it is a COVID pass. It isn't a vaccination certificate, it isn't any of these elaborate names that it's been given today, and it's almost like, somehow, we've been talking about something that doesn't exist and that's the truth. I don't, however, dismiss the unease that some people feel about the civil liberties debate, but I'm content that the inclusion of the lateral flow test result deals with that. And if we're talking about rights - and we've heard a lot about rights today - we don't actually have an automatic right to go to a nightclub. I don't ever remember that being written into the human rights legislation that you have a human right to go to a nightclub. But we do have, and it's been quoted here - and I prefer the Tony Blair to Thatcher, I have to tell you - we do have some responsibility as individuals to other people. I've heard the debate about needing an extra member of staff that was put through by Janet Finch-Saunders. If we don't check people who are coming into venues - and we do know there is sufficient evidence that tells us that these can be become superspreaders - I can assure you of one thing, Janet, you'll have fewer staff the next week because they will have caught COVID, so they'll be running a little bit on empty, and we've seen that happen where people have opened up already. There is plenty of evidence there already that tells you that people are being infected in their place of work. So, what we're trying to do is actually protect those workers and we're also trying to protect people. If you want evidence about people's behaviour after they pile out of or towards a nightclub, come with me on Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday night in Haverfordwest when I take somebody to work at 11 o'clock. It seems that people think that they become superhuman, they're hanging off each other, and I'm sure that they're talking really closely, and I can guarantee that they don't remember the next day who they've been talking to. Some of them won't even remember where they were going to or coming from. My experience in the licensed trade tells me that that will be the case. So, let's be clear that this is not a vaccine certificate, and I think I'm going to keep repeating it as many times as it was already repeated. I don't buy the argument either that I've heard that this measure is the thin edge of the wedge, nor that it's a checkpoint Government. Let's be clear, these are very silly words to bandy about in this debate. We've all made extraordinary sacrifices and compromises. We've stuck to the rules and followed advice in order to stay safe and to look out for each other, and we all know that people have made huge sacrifices, and that is really how we've managed to get through this together as a community. But requiring people to prove they're COVID free or vaccinated or both to attend social events is not the biggest ask that we've made of people so far, and I think that's an important point to make here now. It is not the biggest ask. It isn't the majority of people who go into nightclubs. So, let's just keep this in perspective. As far as I know, most of my constituents don't head off to the nightclub, and again I can relate back to the evidence I've already given. But, let's also be clear that many have already actually asked for COVID passes, and at the Green Man that happened in my region, they actually asked for a pass, and thousands more have used COVID passes to travel abroad this summer. In fact, they couldn't wait to get those to get out of the country and come back so they could have a holiday. It didn't stop those people.
Welsh: Byddaf i'n pleidleisio i gefnogi cyflwyno'r pàs COVID, ac rwyf i eisiau ailadrodd hynny: pàs COVID ydyw. Nid yw'n dystysgrif frechlynnau, nid yw'n unrhyw un o'r enwau cymhleth hyn sydd wedi ei roi iddo heddiw, ac mae bron fel, rhywsut, ein bod ni wedi bod yn sôn am rywbeth nad yw'n bodoli a dyna'r gwir. Fodd bynnag, nid wyf i'n diystyru'r anesmwythyd y mae rhai pobl yn ei deimlo ynghylch y ddadl ar ryddid sifil, ond rwy'n fodlon bod cynnwys canlyniad y prawf llif unffordd yn ymdrin â hynny. Ac os ydym ni'n sôn am hawliau - ac rydym ni wedi clywed llawer am hawliau heddiw - nid oes gennym ni hawl awtomatig i fynd i glwb nos mewn gwirionedd. Nid wyf i byth yn cofio hynny wedi ei ysgrifennu yn y ddeddfwriaeth hawliau dynol, bod gennych chi hawl ddynol i fynd i glwb nos. Ond mae gennym ni, ac mae wedi ei ddyfynnu yn y fan yma - ac mae'n well gen i fersiwn Tony Blair i Thatcher, mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud wrthych chi - mae gennym ni rywfaint o gyfrifoldeb fel unigolion i bobl eraill. Rwyf i wedi clywed y ddadl ynghylch angen aelod ychwanegol o staff a gafodd ei chyflwyno gan Janet Finch-Saunders. Os nad ydym ni'n gwirio'r bobl sy'n dod i mewn i leoliadau - ac rydym ni yn gwybod bod digon o dystiolaeth sy'n dweud wrthym ni y gall y rhain fod yn archledaenwyr - gallaf eich sicrhau am un peth, Janet, bydd gennych chi lai o staff yr wythnos nesaf oherwydd byddan nhw wedi dal COVID, felly byddan nhw'n brin o staff, ac rydym ni wedi gweld hynny'n digwydd lle mae pobl wedi agor yn barod. Mae digon o dystiolaeth yno eisoes sy'n dweud wrthych chi fod pobl yn cael eu heintio yn eu gweithle. Felly, yr hyn yr ydym ni'n ceisio ei wneud yw diogelu'r gweithwyr hynny mewn gwirionedd ac rydym ni hefyd yn ceisio amddiffyn pobl. Os ydych chi eisiau tystiolaeth o ymddygiad pobl ar ôl iddyn nhw hyrddio allan o glwb nos neu tuag ato, dewch gyda mi ar nos Iau, nos Wener, nos Sadwrn neu nos Sul i Hwlffordd pan fyddaf i'n mynd â rhywun i'r gwaith am 11 o'r gloch. Mae'n ymddangos bod pobl yn meddwl eu bod yn dod nhw'n uwchddynol, maen nhw'n hongian oddi ar ei gilydd, ac rwy'n siŵr eu bod nhw'n siarad yn agos iawn, a gallaf i warantu nad ydyn nhw'n cofio'r diwrnod nesaf â phwy y maen nhw wedi bod yn siarad. Ni fydd rhai ohonyn nhw hyd yn oed yn cofio i ble roedden nhw'n mynd neu o ble roedden nhw'n dod. Mae fy mhrofiad i yn y fasnach drwyddedig yn dweud wrthyf y bydd hynny'n wir. Felly, gadewch i ni fod yn glir nad tystysgrif frechlynnau yw hon, ac rwy'n credu fy mod i'n mynd i barhau i ailadrodd hynny gynifer o weithiau ag yr oedd wedi ei ailadrodd eisoes. Nid wyf i'n derbyn y ddadl ychwaith yr wyf i wedi ei chlywed mai blaen y gyllell yw'r mesur hwn, na'i fod yn Llywodraeth reolfa. Gadewch i ni fod yn glir, mae'r rhain yn eiriau gwirion iawn i'w defnyddio yn y ddadl hon. Rydym ni i gyd wedi gwneud aberth a chyfaddawdau eithriadol. Rydym ni wedi cadw at y rheolau ac wedi dilyn cyngor er mwyn cadw'n ddiogel a gofalu am ein gilydd, ac rydym ni i gyd yn gwybod bod pobl wedi gwneud aberth enfawr, a dyna mewn gwirionedd sut yr ydym ni wedi llwyddo i ddod drwy hyn gyda'n gilydd fel cymuned. Ond nid yw ei gwneud yn ofynnol i bobl brofi eu bod yn rhydd rhag COVID neu eu bod wedi eu brechu neu'r ddau i fynychu digwyddiadau cymdeithasol y peth mwyaf yr ydym ni wedi ei ofyn gan bobl hyd yn hyn, ac rwy'n credu bod hynny'n bwynt pwysig i'w wneud yma nawr. Nid dyma'r peth mwyaf sydd wedi ei ofyn. Nid yw'r bobl sy'n mynd i glybiau nos yn fwyafrif. Felly, gadewch i ni gadw persbectif yn hyn i gyd. Hyd y gwn i, nid yw'r rhan fwyaf o fy etholwyr i yn mynd i glybiau nos, ac eto gallaf i ddilyn y dystiolaeth yr wyf i eisoes wedi ei rhoi. Ond, gadewch i ni hefyd fod yn glir bod llawer eisoes wedi gofyn am basys COVID, ac yn y Dyn Gwyrdd a ddigwyddodd yn fy rhanbarth i, gwnaethon nhw ofyn am bàs, ac mae miloedd mwy wedi defnyddio pasys COVID i deithio dramor yr haf hwn. Yn wir, ni allen nhw aros i'w cael nhw i gael mynd allan o'r wlad a dod yn ôl fel y gallen nhw gael gwyliau. Nid oedd yn atal y bobl hynny.