English: No, no, the definitions of 'childcare' are actually correct, and what flows from this currently-being-piloted childcare offer, that definition is the basis of the 'childcare' definition that we use. And it also then has guidance that is supplementary to this, which has been shared with the committee as well, which shows where there are any additional costs, for example, what the guidance says around those. But childcare is childcare, and it's very clearly understood and we don't need to redefine it on the front of this Bill. So, look, in bringing forward amendment 4, we've provided greater clarity and certainty about the Government's commitment to meet its manifesto commitment, and I welcome the fact that you won't be pushing the other amendments related to that because we're trying to achieve the same thing here. And let's not forget that the Welsh Ministers will be required, as I say, to set out the detail of the offer in detail, in terms of the number of hours, how many weeks, et cetera, in regulation. So, amendment 4, alongside the other Government amendment, which builds into the Bill, Suzy and Janet, a requirement to review the effectiveness of the legislation, means that this Government is fully committed not only to the manifesto commitment, but also to transparency about the effectiveness of this offer as well. And one important point, Llywydd, just to reflect on at the outset of these Stage 3 proceedings, is that it is important to reflect again on the purpose of this legislation. Its purpose is to give the legislative mechanism we need to engage HM Revenue and Customs in administering the application and eligibility-checking process for the offer. It isn't about the offer per se, although I recognise that Members understandably have focused a great deal on the wider offer more broadly throughout the scrutiny stages, and we've been happy to address those issues. And as the responsible Minister, I've tried in every way possible to address those broader issues. But, in respect of this set of amendments, I would urge Members in light of my comments to reject those other amendments - although if the Member is choosing not to push them, I think that would be excellent because we're trying to achieve the same aim here - and to support Government amendment 4 as the amendment that strikes that right balance between providing greater clarity and certainty, and giving this and future administrations discretion over how that duty is defined in the future.
Welsh: Na, na, mae'r diffiniadau o 'ofal plant' yn gywir mewn gwirionedd, a'r hyn sy'n deillio o'r cynnig gofal plant sy'n cael ei dreialu ar hyn o bryd yw mai'r diffiniad hwnnw yw sail y diffiniad o 'ofal plant' a ddefnyddiwn. Ac mae canllawiau ynddo hefyd sy'n atodol i hyn, ac sydd wedi'i rannu gyda'r pwyllgor yn ogystal, sy'n dangos beth y mae'r canllawiau yn ei ddweud ynglŷn ag unrhyw gostau ychwanegol, er enghraifft. Ond gofal plant yw gofal plant, ac mae'n ddealladwy iawn ac nid oes angen inni ei ailddiffinio ar flaen y Bil hwn. Felly, edrychwch, wrth gyflwyno gwelliant 4, rydym wedi darparu mwy o eglurder a sicrwydd ynglŷn ag ymrwymiad y Llywodraeth i gyflawni ei hymrwymiad maniffesto, ac rwy'n croesawu'r ffaith na fyddwch yn gwthio'r gwelliannau eraill sy'n ymwneud â hynny oherwydd rydym yn ceisio cyflawni'r un peth yma. A gadewch i ni beidio ag anghofio, fel rwy'n dweud, y bydd gofyn i Weinidogion Cymru nodi manylion y cynnig yn fanwl, o ran nifer yr oriau, faint o wythnosau, ac ati, mewn rheoliadau. Felly, mae gwelliant 4, ochr yn ochr â gwelliant arall y Llywodraeth, sy'n ymgorffori gofyniad yn y Bil, Suzy a Janet, i adolygu effeithiolrwydd y ddeddfwriaeth, yn golygu bod y Llywodraeth hon wedi ymrwymo'n llwyr nid yn unig i ymrwymiad y maniffesto, ond hefyd i dryloywder ynghylch effeithiolrwydd y cynnig hwn yn ogystal. Ac un pwynt pwysig i'w ystyried, Lywydd, ar ddechrau'r trafodion Cyfnod 3 hyn, yw ei bod yn bwysig myfyrio eto ar ddiben y ddeddfwriaeth hon. Ei diben yw rhoi'r mecanwaith deddfwriaethol sydd ei angen arnom i ymgysylltu â Chyllid a Thollau EM ar gyfer gweinyddu'r broses ymgeisio a gwirio cymhwysedd ar gyfer y cynnig. Nid yw'n ymwneud â'r cynnig fel y cyfryw, er fy mod yn cydnabod bod yr Aelodau, yn ddealladwy, wedi canolbwyntio llawer ar y cynnig ehangach yn fwy cyffredinol drwy gydol y cyfnodau craffu, ac rydym wedi bod yn hapus i fynd i'r afael â'r materion hynny. Ac fel y Gweinidog cyfrifol, rwyf wedi ceisio mynd i'r afael â'r materion ehangach hynny ym mhob ffordd bosibl. Ond mewn perthynas â'r set hon o welliannau, buaswn yn annog yr Aelodau yng ngoleuni fy sylwadau i wrthod y gwelliannau eraill hynny - ond os yw'r Aelod yn dewis peidio â'u gwthio, credaf y byddai hynny'n ardderchog oherwydd rydym yn ceisio cyrraedd yr un nod yma - a chefnogi gwelliant 4 y Llywodraeth fel y gwelliant sy'n taro'r cydbwysedd cywir rhwng darparu gwell eglurder a sicrwydd, a rhoi disgresiwn i'r weinyddiaeth hon a gweinyddiaethau'r dyfodol o ran sut y diffinnir y ddyletswydd honno yn y dyfodol.