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English: Lynne Neagle mentioned earlier the Children, Young People and Education Committee report, which in very strong terms criticised both Governments regarding school funding. The UK Government has responded and increased the Welsh block as a result of increasing its own UK schools budgets by £14 billion. So, we do now need to see action on this from Welsh Government, and I'm afraid, Minister, you can't just justify years of underfunding in our schools in Wales - this is a point made by unions, not just this side of the Chamber - by pointing at another Government that's taken immediate action to reverse the dangers that were affecting them. Lynne Neagle asked about early years, but can you confirm that most if not all of the money will go to schools or local authorities for their school budgets? I appreciate you can't give details on that, but in principle. And, if that money does go to local authorities for their school budgets, will it be protected so that councils won't be tempted to divert that money into other areas of need and priority?
Welsh: Soniodd Lynne Neagle yn gynharach am adroddiad y Pwyllgor Plant, Pobl Ifanc ac Addysg, a oedd yn beirniadu'r ddwy Lywodraeth yn hallt mewn perthynas â chyllid ysgolion. Mae Llywodraeth y DU wedi ymateb ac wedi cynyddu bloc Cymru o ganlyniad i ddarparu cynnydd o £14 biliwn i'w chyllideb ysgolion ei hun ar gyfer y DU. Felly, mae angen i Lywodraeth Cymru roi camau ar waith ar hyn, ac mae arnaf ofn, Weinidog, na allwch gyfiawnhau blynyddoedd o danariannu yn ein hysgolion yng Nghymru - mae hwn yn bwynt a wnaed gan undebau, nid ar yr ochr hon i'r Siambr yn unig - drwy dynnu sylw at Lywodraeth arall sydd wedi gweithredu ar unwaith i wyrdroi'r peryglon a oedd yn effeithio arnynt. Gofynnodd Lynne Neagle am y blynyddoedd cynnar, ond a allwch gadarnhau y bydd y rhan fwyaf os nad yr holl arian yn mynd i ysgolion neu awdurdodau lleol ar gyfer eu cyllidebau ysgolion? Rwy'n derbyn na allwch roi manylion am hynny, ond mewn egwyddor. Ac os bydd yr arian hwnnw'n mynd i awdurdodau lleol ar gyfer eu cyllidebau ysgolion, a fydd yn cael ei warchod fel na fydd cynghorau'n cael eu denu i ddargyfeirio'r arian hwnnw i feysydd blaenoriaeth ac angen eraill?
English: Well, I can't agree that the UK Government's taken immediate action to address funding in schools. They've been in power for a decade, so it has taken them some time to wake up to the importance of education and also they gave schools in England and the NHS the certainty of a three-year outlook for their spending. They didn't have the courtesy to do that here in Wales, where we had been promised a three-year spending review. So, in terms of making announcements today and pledges today, I'm not in a position to do that. We've only had our spending allocations for next year, with two years to do that. But I would just reassure people that we are listening to all the arguments that you made, which local authorities made, which different sectors are making, and all of that will be considered as we look to set the budgets in future.
Welsh: Wel, ni allaf gytuno bod Llywodraeth y DU wedi gweithredu ar unwaith i fynd i'r afael â chyllid mewn ysgolion. Maent wedi bod mewn grym ers degawd, felly mae wedi cymryd cryn dipyn o amser iddynt gydnabod pwysigrwydd addysg, ac maent hefyd wedi rhoi sicrwydd o ragolwg gwariant tair blynedd i ysgolion a'r GIG yn Lloegr. Nid oedd ganddynt y cwrteisi i wneud hynny yma yng Nghymru, lle yr addawyd adolygiad gwariant tair blynedd. Felly, o ran gwneud cyhoeddiadau heddiw ac addewidion heddiw, nid wyf mewn sefyllfa i wneud hynny. Rydym newydd gael ein dyraniadau gwariant ar gyfer y flwyddyn nesaf, gyda dwy flynedd i wneud hynny. Ond hoffwn sicrhau pobl ein bod yn gwrando ar yr holl ddadleuon a wnaed gennych chi, yr awdurdodau lleol, a'r gwahanol sectorau, ac ystyrir hynny i gyd wrth i ni osod y cyllidebau yn y dyfodol.
English: Minister, within this austerity context, if could we have some clarity as to the financial situation, perhaps you could tell us how much money we've lost since 2010 when the Tories came into power, perhaps you could tell us what guarantees you've had in respect of European Union funding were we to leave the European Union, and, in respect of the additional money that's being promised, have we actually seen any of this money or is it still as imaginary - [ Interruption.] Is it still as imaginary as the Prime Minister's Brexit deal?
Welsh: Weinidog, yng nghyd-destun y cyni hwn, os gallwn gael rhywfaint o eglurder ynghylch y sefyllfa ariannol, efallai y gallech ddweud wrthym faint o arian a gollwyd gennym ers 2010 pan ddaeth y Torïaid i rym, efallai y gallech ddweud wrthym pa warantau a gawsoch mewn perthynas â chyllid yr Undeb Ewropeaidd pe baem yn gadael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd, ac o ran yr arian ychwanegol sy'n cael ei addo, a ydym wedi gweld rhywfaint o'r arian hwn mewn gwirionedd, neu a yw'n dal i fod yr un mor ddychmygol - [ Torri ar draws.] A yw'n dal i fod yr un mor ddychmygol â chytundeb Brexit Prif Weinidog y DU?
English: Thank you very much. Young people are at the heart of Cymraeg 2050. We're working with schools and FE colleagues to increase opportunities for young people to use Welsh. Of course, we've also expanded the role of the Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol, but we also acknowledge that there is a need for us to do more.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Mae pobl ifanc with galon Cymraeg 2050 ac rŷn ni'n gweithio gydag ysgolion a cholegau addysg bellach i gynyddu'r cyfleoedd i bobl ifanc i gael defnyddio'r Gymraeg. Rŷn ni hefyd, wrth gwrs, wedi ehangu rôl y Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol, ond rŷn ni hefyd yn cydnabod bod angen inni wneud mwy.
English: Can you tell me, therefore, what's the purpose of expanding provision when more and more young people contact me saying that they can't access that provision? Many of us in this Chamber, I'm sure, have seen an increase in the casework that we receive from sixth-form students in Welsh-medium schools who are facing a situation where the transport that was provided to those schools by local authorities is being cut. I've dealt with cases in Wrexham, Flintshire, Denbighshire and in other counties across north Wales. Some of them have been resolved; others, unfortunately, have not. So, can I ask you what you're going to do to ensure that students can access, through transport, those schools where this additional provision that you mention is provided?
Welsh: A wnewch chi ddweud wrthyf fi, felly, beth yw pwrpas ehangu'r ddarpariaeth pan fo mwy a mwy o bobl ifanc yn cysylltu â mi yn dweud eu bod nhw'n methu â chael at y ddarpariaeth honno? Mae nifer ohonon ni yn y Siambr fan hyn, dwi'n siŵr, wedi gweld cynnydd yn y gwaith achos rŷn ni'n ei dderbyn gan fyfyrwyr chweched dosbarth mewn ysgolion Cymraeg sydd yn wynebu sefyllfa lle mae'r drafnidiaeth oedd yn cael ei ddarparu i'r ysgolion hynny gan yr awdurdodau lleol yn cael ei thorri. Dwi wedi delio ag achosion yn Wrecsam, yn sir y Fflint, yn sir Ddinbych ac mewn siroedd eraill ar draws y gogledd - rhai ohonyn nhw wedi'u datrys; yn anffodus, rhai ohonyn nhw ddim. Felly, a gaf i ofyn beth ydych chi am ei wneud i sicrhau bod myfyrwyr yn gallu cael mynediad trwy drafnidiaeth i'r ysgolion hynny lle mae'r ddarpariaeth ychwanegol yma rŷch chi'n sôn amdano fe yn cael ei darparu?
English: Well, we are spending quite a lot of time at present trying to ensure that we improve the situation. I have had another meeting this morning with the Minister responsible for education, and both of us have written to the Minister with responsibility for transport, and so there is an effort being made to ensure that we are able to come to a different place as regards this problem. There will be a refresh of Learner Travel (Wales) Measure 2008, and that'll be happening in the autumn, and, of course, that's an opportunity for people to respond to the consultation, but we do acknowledge that there is a problem and that, particularly, there is a problem in Flintshire, and also in the Neath area.
Welsh: Wel, rŷn ni'n treulio eithaf lot o amser ar hyn o bryd yn treial sicrhau ein bod ni yn gwella'r sefyllfa sydd wrthi ar hyn o bryd. Dwi wedi cael cyfarfod arall y bore yma gyda'r Gweinidog sydd â chyfrifoldeb dros addysg. Mae'r ddwy ohonon ni wedi ysgrifennu at y Gweinidog sydd â chyfrifoldeb dros drafnidiaeth, felly mae yna ymgais nawr i fynd ati i sicrhau ein bod ni'n gallu dod i le gwahanol gyda'r broblem yma. Mae yna refresh yn mynd i fod o'r Learner Travel (Wales) Measure 2008 - mae hwnna'n digwydd yn yr hydref. Wrth gwrs, mae hwnna'n gyfle i bobl ymateb i ymgynghoriad, ond rŷn ni yn cydnabod bod yna broblem, ac, yn arbennig, fod yna broblem yn sir y Fflint a hefyd yn ardal Castell Nedd hefyd.
English: Minister, Llyr Gruffydd made a very valid point about the importance of being able to access those Welsh-medium services when they are provided. And whilst we all welcome the 1 million Welsh-speaker target and recognise the importance of Welsh-medium education in delivering that, I think the pressures that Llyr has alluded to are probably even more pressing in anglicised areas of Wales, such as the area that I represent, than they are in some of the more Welsh-speaking areas. So, referring to the answer you gave to Llyr in terms of the transport that Welsh-medium - I didn't quite catch your answer there, but the answer you gave - can you say what particular focus you're putting on making sure that my constituents who wish to access Welsh services in an area where, traditionally, that hasn't been the case, they will get specific support to make sure that Welsh-medium education and Welsh-medium services are available to all?
Welsh: Weinidog, gwnaeth Llyr Gruffydd bwynt dilys iawn ynghylch pwysigrwydd gallu cael mynediad at y gwasanaethau cyfrwng Cymraeg hynny pan gânt eu darparu. Ac er bod pob un ohonom yn croesawu'r targed o 1 miliwn o siaradwyr Cymraeg ac yn cydnabod pwysigrwydd addysg cyfrwng Cymraeg i'r gwaith o gyflawni hynny, credaf ei bod hi'n debygol fod y pwysau y cyfeiriodd Llyr ato'n waeth byth mewn ardaloedd o Gymru sydd wedi'u Seisnigeiddio, fel yr ardal rwy'n ei chynrychioli, na'r hyn ydyw yn rhai o'r ardaloedd lle y ceir mwy o siaradwyr Cymraeg. Felly, gan gyfeirio at yr ateb a roesoch i Llyr ynglŷn â'r drafnidiaeth y gall myfyrwyr cyfrwng Cymraeg - ni chlywais eich ateb, ond yr ateb a roesoch - a allwch ddweud pa ffocws penodol yr ydych yn ei roi ar sicrhau bod fy etholwyr sy'n dymuno cael mynediad at wasanaethau Cymraeg, mewn ardal lle na fu modd gwneud hynny yn draddodiadol, yn cael cymorth penodol i sicrhau bod addysg cyfrwng Cymraeg a gwasanaethau Cymraeg ar gael i bawb?
English: When local authorities are developing their Welsh in education strategic plans, they do have to be cognisant of the transport issues in relation to how those children get to school. There is, of course, a statutory requirement for them to provide that to Welsh-speaking schools under the age of 16. There is an issue for those over 18, and this is where the issue comes in, because it is not a statutory situation at the moment, and we are assessing what are the possibilities to re-look at that situation. It is quite complex and, obviously, there may be some knock-on effects. We are actually spending a lot of time now trying to address this very issue.
Welsh: Pan fydd awdurdodau lleol yn datblygu eu cynlluniau strategol Cymraeg mewn addysg, mae'n rhaid iddynt fod yn ymwybodol o'r materion trafnidiaeth mewn perthynas â sut y mae'r plant hynny'n cyrraedd yr ysgol. Wrth gwrs, mae gofyniad statudol iddynt ddarparu hynny i ysgolion cyfrwng Cymraeg ar gyfer myfyrwyr o dan 16 oed. Ceir problem i rai dros 18 oed, a dyma lle y cyfyd y broblem hon, oherwydd nid yw'n sefyllfa statudol ar hyn o bryd, ac rydym yn asesu beth yw'r posibiliadau i ailedrych ar y sefyllfa honno. Mae'n eithaf cymhleth, ac yn amlwg, gall fod rhai sgil effeithiau. Rydym yn treulio cryn dipyn o amser ar hyn o bryd yn ceisio mynd i'r afael â'r union fater hwn mewn gwirionedd.
English: You would agree with me, Minister, I'm sure, that it's important in areas where the Welsh language isn't as deeply rooted that we do more to help to root it more firmly. So, how will the Welsh Government work with local authorities and local communities in Ogmore to promote the Welsh, and how ambitious will the education targets and the early years targets be in assisting with this?
Welsh: Byddech chi'n cytuno gyda fi, Gweinidog, dwi'n siŵr, bod hi'n bwysig mewn ardaloedd lle nad oes gan y Gymraeg wreiddiau mor ddwfn, sy'n gwneud mwy i helpu i dyfu'r gwreiddiau hynny. Felly, sut y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn gweithio gydag awdurdodau lleol a chymunedau lleol yn Ogmore i hyrwyddo'r Gymraeg? A pha mor uchelgeisiol fydd targedau addysg ar flynyddoedd cynnar i helpu gyda hyn?
English: Thank you very much, and may I thank you for posing that question in Welsh? Of course, we do set targets for local government. My officials have been busy over the summer holding discussions with the officers in some of the local authorities, including Bridgend, and, of course, what we're trying to do is ensure that we lead the demand and not just react to the demand. In Bridgend, we hope that we will attain a target of approximately 30 per cent over the ensuing decade. What we've been doing is offering additional support to try and promote the Welsh language in those areas and to try and engender more interest from local people. What's also important is that there is progression or continuity, that people go from primary school on to the secondary schools, and that has been a problem in the past - particularly in your area, I'm afraid. But, of course, we're not just talking about schools; there are other things that we are doing to promote the Welsh language in areas such as Bridgend, such as the mentrau iaith that give people a lot of support to have the opportunity to speak Welsh socially.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. A gaf i ddiolch i chi am ofyn y cwestiwn yn Gymraeg? Wrth gwrs, rŷm ni yn gosod targedau ar lywodraethau lleol. Mae ein swyddogion ni wedi bod wrthi dros yr haf yn trafod gyda swyddogion ar draws rhai awdurdodau lleol, yn cynnwys ym Mhen-y-bont. Wrth gwrs, beth rŷn ni'n ceisio'i wneud yw sicrhau ein bod ni'n arwain y galw nawr, nid jest yn ymateb i'r galw. Ym Mhen-y-bont, dwi'n meddwl ein bod ni'n gobeithio y byddwn ni'n cyrraedd targed o tua 30 y cant dros y 10 mlynedd nesaf. A beth rŷn ni wedi bod yn ei wneud yw cynnig cefnogaeth ychwanegol i geisio hyrwyddo'r Gymraeg yn yr ardaloedd hynny a cheisio ennyn mwy o ddiddordeb oddi wrth y bobl leol. Beth sy'n bwysig hefyd, wrth gwrs, yw bod yna ddilyniant, bod pobl sy'n mynd i ysgolion cynradd yn symud ymlaen i'r ysgolion uwchradd. Mae hynny wedi bod yn broblem yn y gorffennol - yn arbennig yn eich ardal chi, mae arnaf i ofn. Ond, wrth gwrs, nid jest ysgolion rŷn ni'n sôn amdano; mae yna bethau eraill rŷn ni'n eu gwneud i hybu'r Gymraeg mewn ardaloedd fel Pen-y-bont, fel y mentrau iaith sydd yn rhoi lot o gefnogaeth i bobl i gael cyfleoedd i siarad Cymraeg yn gymdeithasol.
English: Thank you very much, Joyce. Encouraging our communities to become more active is a Welsh Government priority. In the year 2018-19, our delivery partner, Sport Wales, provided around £16 million to local authorities, national governing bodies of sport and other partners specifically for community sport development and to support them in delivering sport and physical activity opportunities reflecting local needs.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Joyce. Mae annog ein cymunedau i fod yn fwy egnïol yn flaenoriaeth i Lywodraeth Cymru. Yn y flwyddyn 2018-19, darparodd ein partner cyflenwi, Chwaraeon Cymru, oddeutu £16 miliwn i awdurdodau lleol, cyrff llywodraethu chwaraeon cenedlaethol a phartneriaid eraill yn benodol er mwyn datblygu chwaraeon cymunedol ac i'w cynorthwyo i ddarparu cyfleoedd chwaraeon a gweithgarwch corfforol sy'n adlewyrchu anghenion lleol.
English: I thank you for that answer. I recently visited Open Newtown project in Powys and it's part of a community asset transfer project of 130 acres of green space that secured a 99-year lease from Powys and Newtown councils. And there are many elements to this project and they'll be delivered over five years, with funding from many sources. But the main aim of the project is to enhance green spaces in Newtown for both the community and the visitor, and it has a very strong emphasis on improving and enhancing sport and recreation for all. It's being done in many ways: improving pathways, football pitches, play areas and building a footbridge for pedestrians and cyclists. Have you made any assessment, Minister, of whether the community asset transfer projects are a possible way of enhancing and improving activity, sport and recreation within those communities?
Welsh: Diolch am eich ateb. Yn ddiweddar, ymwelais â phrosiect Agor Drenewydd ym Mhowys ac mae'n rhan o brosiect trosglwyddo asedau cymunedol gyda 130 erw o fannau gwyrdd a sicrhaodd brydles 99 mlynedd gan gynghorau Powys a'r Drenewydd. Ac mae sawl elfen i'r prosiect hwn, a byddant yn cael eu cyflawni dros bum mlynedd, gyda chyllid o sawl ffynhonnell. Ond prif nod y prosiect yw gwella mannau gwyrdd yn y Drenewydd ar gyfer y gymuned ac ymwelwyr, ac mae'n cynnwys pwyslais cryf iawn ar wella chwaraeon a hamdden i bawb. Mae'n gwneud hynny mewn sawl ffordd: gwella llwybrau, caeau pêl-droed, mannau chwarae ac adeiladu pont droed ar gyfer cerddwyr a beicwyr. A ydych wedi gwneud unrhyw asesiad, Weinidog, o'r defnydd posibl o brosiectau trosglwyddo asedau cymunedol i wella gweithgarwch corfforol, chwaraeon a hamdden yn y cymunedau hynny?
English: I think we all have experience in our regions and constituencies in this place of the success of community asset transfers. It is a way of taking on the activity of public authorities in a way that links with the community needs. So, we will certainly continue to assess the effectiveness of both community asset transfer and trust models, and, in our work with Sport Wales and others of the public bodies for which I have responsibility, we work to ensure that the effectiveness of community asset transfer is made aware to people. And I would recommend to you, if you haven't been on it already, the Club Solutions website of Sport Wales, which emphasises how community asset transfer and trust models can be a very effective way of managing facilities for sport and other activities by communities for themselves. I haven't mentioned, of course, the wonderful swimming pool and climbing wall in Harlech, and I shouldn't have done that.
Welsh: Credaf fod gan bob un ohonom yn y lle hwn brofiad yn ein rhanbarthau a'n hetholaethau o lwyddiant trosglwyddo asedau cymunedol. Mae'n ffordd o ymgymryd â gweithgarwch awdurdodau cyhoeddus mewn ffordd sy'n cysylltu ag anghenion y gymuned. Felly, byddwn yn sicr yn parhau i asesu effeithiolrwydd modelau ymddiriedolaeth a throsglwyddo asedau cymunedol, ac yn ein gwaith gyda Chwaraeon Cymru a chyrff cyhoeddus eraill y mae gennyf gyfrifoldeb amdanynt, rydym yn gweithio i sicrhau bod pobl yn ymwybodol o effeithiolrwydd trosglwyddo asedau cymunedol. Ac os nad ydych wedi gwneud hynny eisoes, buaswn yn argymell i chi ymweld ag Atebion Clwb ar wefan Chwaraeon Cymru, sy'n pwysleisio sut y gall modelau ymddiriedolaeth a throsglwyddo asedau cymunedol fod yn ffordd effeithiol iawn i gymunedau reoli cyfleusterau chwaraeon a gweithgareddau eraill eu hunain. Nid wyf wedi sôn, wrth gwrs, am y pwll nofio bendigedig a'r wal ddringo yn Harlech, ac ni ddylwn fod wedi gwneud hynny.
English: Deputy Minister, you may be aware of the long-established partnership between the Valero refinery in Pembroke and Sport Pembrokeshire, which has supported sport across Pembrokeshire for many years. This is an excellent example of businesses working with the local authorities and the local communities to support community sport, and certainly the partnership has had a real impact on community sport throughout Pembrokeshire. Now, in light of this, can you tell us what the Welsh Government is doing to encourage more relationships between businesses and local authorities to develop sports programmes in the community?
Welsh: Dirprwy Weinidog, efallai y byddwch chi yn ymwybodol o'r bartneriaeth hirsefydlog rhwng purfa Valero, Penfro a Chwaraeon Sir Benfro, sydd wedi cefnogi chwaraeon cymunedol ledled sir Benfro ers blynyddoedd bellach. Mae hyn, dwi'n credu, yn enghraifft arbennig o fusnesau yn gweithio gyda'r awdurdod lleol a chymunedau lleol i gefnogi chwaraeon cymunedol, ac yn sicr mae'r bartneriaeth wedi cael effaith wirioneddol ar chwaraeon cymunedol ledled sir Benfro. Yn sgil hyn, a allwch chi ddweud wrthym ni beth mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn ei wneud i annog mwy o berthnasoedd fel hyn, rhwng busnesau ac awdurdodau lleol, i ddatblygu rhaglenni chwaraeon cymunedol?
English: I am most grateful for that specific information. I'm familiar with Pembrokeshire - in fact, I was there this week. It's always a pleasure to see how major international companies, such as Valero, invest back into the community. I will look in greater detail at that. I'm certainly most willing to draw local government and local communities' attention towards the possibility of improving their services by receiving effective commercial sponsorship. This is true in the field of the arts, and it's also true in the field of sports. The Valero company, as you know very well yourself, has contributed in those two directions - to increase and augment the arts and sports community provision.
Welsh: Dwi'n ddiolchgar iawn am y wybodaeth benodol yna. Dwi'n gyfarwydd â sir Benfro - yn wir, roeddwn i yno yr wythnos yma. Mae'n bleser wastad i weld fel y mae cwmnïau mawr rhyngwladol, megis Valero, yn buddsoddi yn ôl yn y gymuned. Fe edrychaf i yn fwy manwl ar hynna. Ac yn sicr dwi'n barod iawn i dynnu sylw llywodraeth leol a chymunedau lleol tuag at y posibilrwydd cyson o wella eu gwasanaeth drwy gael nawdd masnachol effeithlon. Mae hyn yn wir ym maes y celfyddydau, ac mae o hefyd yn wir ym maes chwaraeon. Ac y mae cwmni Valero, fel y gwyddost ti yn dda iawn, wedi cyfrannu yn y ddau gyfeiriad yna - i ddatblygu'r ddarpariaeth gelfyddydol, a'r ddarpariaeth o fewn chwaraeon a'r ddarpariaeth gymunedol.
English: It is important that we ensure that our principles and our values are seen throughout the world. I do think it's important that, together with that strategy, it also states clearly that cyber security is one of the main issues where people understand that Wales has expertise in this field. It's important for us to highlight that. And it is difficult - . Because there is a close relationship, and we have to acknowledge that, between what occurs in the field of defence and what happens in commercial cyber security. So, it's very difficult to separate the two things. There is a relationship, but I think it's important we do not detract from pushing cyber security when we have the opportunity to do so.
Welsh: Mae hi'n bwysig ein bod ni yn sicrhau bod ein hegwyddorion a'n gwerthoedd yn cael eu gweld drwy'r byd. Dwi yn meddwl ei bod hi'n bwysig, ynghyd â'r strategaeth yna, i ddweud yn glir hefyd bod cyber security yn un o'r prif bethau rŷm ni eisiau sicrhau bod pobl yn ei ddeall - bod Cymru yn un o'r llefydd lle mae yna arbenigrwydd yn y maes yma. A dyma'r peth dwi'n meddwl ei bod hi'n bwysig ein bod ni'n amlygu. Ac mae yn anodd gweld ble - . Mae yna berthynas agos, dwi'n meddwl bod yn rhaid i ni gydnabod, rhwng beth sy'n digwydd ym maes amddiffyn a cyber security commercial. Ac felly, wrth gwrs, mae'n anodd i ni dynnu'r rheini oddi wrth ei gilydd. Mae yna berthynas, ond dwi'n meddwl ei bod hi'n bwysig nad ydym ni'n tynnu i ffwrdd o wthio cyber security pan mae yna gyfle gyda ni.