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English: And that concludes today's proceedings. Thank you all.
Welsh: A daw hynny â'n cyfarfod i ben am y dydd. Diolch i bawb.
English: Welcome, everyone, to this latest meeting of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee here in a virtual capacity via Zoom at Senedd Cymru. Under item 1, we have introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest. May I welcome in the first instance my fellow Members to the screen and note that this is a virtual meeting with Members and witnesses participating via video-conference? The meeting is, of course, bilingual, and simultaneous translation is available from Welsh to English. There may sometimes be a slight delay between a contribution in Welsh and the next speaker coming back up to full volume, so do please be patient. The microphones are being controlled centrally behind the scenes, as it were. You might receive a prompt on your screen asking you to unmute as required. And for the Record, if I as Chair were to lose my internet connection, as can happen on occasion, then we have agreed ahead of time as a committee that Rhun ap Iorwerth will step into the breach as interim Chair until my internet connection can be re-established. Of course, it is Armistice Day today, so we do intend at 11 o'clock to have a two-minute silence to remember all of the fallen. And with those few words of introduction, may I ask for any declarations of interest from any of the Members? I see that there are none.
Welsh: Croeso i bawb i gyfarfod diweddaraf y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yn rhithiol drwy gyfrwng Zoom yn Senedd Cymru. O dan eitem 1, cyflwyniadau, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau, a allaf i groesawu yn y lle cyntaf fy nghyd-Aelodau i'r sgrin? Yn naturiol, nodir taw cyfarfod rhithwir ydy hwn gyda'r Aelodau a'r tystion yn cymryd rhan trwy fideo-gynadledda. A allaf i ymhellach esbonio bod y cyfarfod yma'n naturiol ddwyieithog a bod gwasanaeth cyfieithu ar y pryd ar gael o'r Gymraeg i'r Saesneg? Weithiau mae yna ychydig bach o oedi ar ôl i rywun fod yn siarad yn Gymraeg cyn i lefel y sain ddod nôl yn uchel i'r cyfrannwr nesaf, felly ychydig bach o amynedd. Mae'r meiciau yn cael eu rheoli'n ganolog tu ôl i'r llenni, ac efallai bydd yna neges fach yn ymddangos ar eich sgrin i ddad-fudo pan fydd angen. Er mwyn y Cofnod, os byddaf i fel y Cadeirydd yn colli fy nghyswllt rhyngrwyd, fel sydd yn gallu digwydd o bryd i'w gilydd, yna rydym ni wedi cytuno fel pwyllgor cyn hyn y bydd Rhun ap Iorwerth yn camu i mewn i'r bwlch fel Cadeirydd nes bydd fy system rhyngrwyd i nôl yn gweithio. Yn naturiol, Dydd y Cadoediad yw hi heddiw, felly mae gen i fwriad am 11 o'r gloch i fynd i mewn i ddau funud o dawelwch i gofio'r sawl a gwympodd mewn rhyfel. Gyda chymaint â hynny o ragymadrodd, a allaf i ofyn am unrhyw ddatganiad o fuddiannau gan unrhyw un o'r Aelodau? Dwi'n gweld nad oes.
English: So, we'll move straight on to item 2, and an evidence session with regard to COVID-19. Our global audience all know what we're doing at the moment as a committee on a weekly basis during this pandemic. We are scrutinising the response of the Welsh Government, and all other agencies, to the COVID-19 pandemic. So, today, we have an evidence session with the Welsh Government's technical advisory cell, and to that end, I'm very pleased to welcome to our screens Dr Rob Orford, co-chair of the technical advisory cell and chief scientific adviser for health with the Welsh Government; Fliss Bennee, co-chair of the technical advisory cell of the Welsh Government; Dr Brendan Collins, chair of the policy modelling sub-group, a member of the technical advisory cell, head of health economics at the Welsh Government; Craiger Solomons, chair of the all-Wales national modelling forum, a member of the technical advisory cell, and lead analyst, primary care and health service directorate at the Welsh Government; and also Dr Andrew Goodall, director general of health and social services and chief executive of NHS Wales. A very warm welcome to all of you. We have a vast number of questions to ask you on modelling and so on this morning. And we have five witnesses too, so we'll see how it goes. It's a very important issue. Rhun ap Iorwerth to begin with.
Welsh: Felly awn ni'n syth ymlaen i eitem 2, sesiwn dystiolaeth COVID-19. Mae ein cynulleidfa fyd-eang yn amlwg yn gwybod beth rydym ni'n gwneud fel pwyllgor bob wythnos rŵan yn y pwyllgor iechyd, yn craffu ar ymateb y Llywodraeth - a phawb arall, a dweud y gwir - i'r pandemig COVID. Felly, heddiw, mae gyda ni sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda chell cyngor technegol Llywodraeth Cymru. Ac i'r perwyl yna, dwi'n falch iawn i groesawu i'n sgrin Dr Rob Orford, cyd-gadeirydd y gell cyngor technegol a phrif gynghorydd gwyddonol iechyd Llywodraeth Cymru; Fliss Bennee, cyd-gadeirydd y gell cyngor technegol Llywodraeth Cymru; Dr Brendan Collins, cadeirydd is-grŵp modelu polisïau, aelod o'r gell cyngor technegol, pennaeth economeg iechyd Llywodraeth Cymru; Craiger Solomons, cadeirydd fforwm modelu cenedlaethol Cymru gyfan, aelod o'r gell cynghori technegol, dadansoddwr arweiniol cyfarwyddiaeth gofal sylfaenol a gwyddor iechyd Llywodraeth Cymru; a hefyd Dr Andrew Goodall, cyfarwyddwr cyffredinol iechyd a gwasanaethau cymdeithasol a phrif weithredwr y gwasanaeth iechyd yng Nghymru. Croeso i chi i gyd. Mae gyda ni nifer helaeth o gwestiynau ar fodelu ac ati'r bore yma, ac yn naturiol, mae gyda ni bump o dystion hefyd, felly fe gawn ni weld sut aiff hi. Mater hynod bwysig. Rhun ap Iorwerth i ddechrau.
English: That was a good start, wasn't it? I want to start, if I may, with the questions that everyone will want the answer to, namely when we'll know whether the firebreak has succeeded. It's an obvious question, isn't it? We are waiting for an update on the reasonable worst-case scenario modelling by Swansea University. So, when will we receive that, so we can know what the impact of the firebreak was?
Welsh: Roedd hwnna'n ddechrau da, onid oedd? Rydw i am ddechrau, os caf i, efo'r cwestiynau rydw i'n meddwl bod y rhan fwyaf o bobl yn mynd i fod eisiau chwilio am yr ateb iddyn nhw rŵan, sef pryd ydyn ni'n mynd i wybod ydy'r firebreak wedi gweithio. Mae hynna'n gwestiwn eithaf amlwg. Mi rydym ni'n aros am ddiweddariad ar senarios, reasonable worst-case scenario Prifysgol Abertawe. Pryd gawn ni hwnnw, yn gyntaf, er mwyn gwybod beth oedd impact y clo dros dro?
English: - I call whoever is controlling the sound to direct us for the two minutes' silence. Thank you.
Welsh: - a allaf i alw ar bwy bynnag sydd yn rheoli'r sain i'n rheoli ni nawr am y ddau funud o dawelwch? Diolch yn fawr.
English: So, that concludes the session. Thank you very much to all of you. That brings the two minutes' silence to a close. Thank you very much. I also take it that that concludes the questioning. Are you content, Rhun? I see that you are. So, may I conclude this session by thanking all of you very much for your contributions? It's been an exceptionally interesting session. Thank you. You will, as is customary, receive a transcript of the discussion, for you to check for factual accuracy. But with those few words, thank you very much to all of you. And that brings that session to an end - you can go. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Felly, dyna ddiwedd y sesiwn. Diolch yn fawr i chi i gyd. Dyna ddiwedd y ddau funud o dawelwch, unwaith eto, am flwyddyn arall. A dwi hefyd yn cymryd mai dyna ddiwedd y cwestiynau. Oeddet ti'n hapus yn fanna, Rhun? Dyna ti. Felly, gallaf i gloi'r sesiwn yma drwy ddiolch yn fawr iawn i bob un ohonoch chi am eich cyfraniad y bore yma - mae wedi bod yn sesiwn hynod ddiddorol. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi. Yn ôl ein harfer, mi fyddwch chi'n derbyn trawsgrifiad o'r trafodaethau, er mwyn i chi allu gwirio eu bod nhw'n ffeithiol gywir. Ond gyda chymaint â hynna o ragymadrodd, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi i gyd. A dyna ddiwedd yr eitem yna, ac rydych chi'n gallu mynd yn awr. Diolch yn fawr.
English: To my fellow Members, we've reached item 3, and a motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting. Is everyone content? I see that everyone is indeed content. Thank you very much. And that brings the public meeting to a close.
Welsh: I'm cyd-Aelodau, rydyn ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 3, a chynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 (ix) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod yma. Ydy pawb yn gytûn? Dwi'n gweld bod pawb yn gytûn. Diolch yn fawr. Ac felly, dyna ddiwedd y cyfarfod cyhoeddus.
English: A warm welcome to this Plenary session. Before we begin, I want to set out a few points. This meeting will be held in a hybrid format, with some Members in the Senedd Chamber and others joining by video-conference. A Plenary meeting held using video-conference, in accordance with the Standing Orders of the Welsh Parliament, constitute Senedd proceedings for the purposes of the Government of Wales Act 2006. Some of the provisions of Standing Order 34 will apply for today's Plenary meeting, and these are set out on your agenda. I would also remind Members that Standing Orders relating to order in Plenary meetings apply to this meeting, and apply equally to Members in the Chamber as to those joining virtually.
Welsh: Croeso, bawb, i'r Cyfarfod Llawn. Cyn i ni ddechrau, dwi eisiau nodi ychydig o bwyntiau. Cynhelir y cyfarfod hwn ar ffurf hybrid, gyda rhai Aelodau yn Siambr y Senedd ac eraill yn ymuno drwy gyswllt fideo. Mae Cyfarfod Llawn a gynhelir drwy gynhadledd fideo, yn unol â Rheolau Sefydlog Senedd Cymru, yn gyfystyr â thrafodion y Senedd at ddibenion Deddf Llywodraeth Cymru 2006. Bydd rhai o ddarpariaethau Rheol Sefydlog 34 yn gymwys ar gyfer y Cyfarfod Llawn heddiw, ac mae'r rhain wedi'u nodi ar yr agenda. Dwi eisiau atgoffa Aelodau hefyd fod y Rheolau Sefydlog sy'n ymwneud â threfn yn y Cyfarfod Llawn yn berthnasol i'r cyfarfod yma, ac yr un mor berthnasol i'r Aelodau yn y Siambr ag ydyn nhw i'r Aelodau sy'n ymuno drwy gyswllt fideo.
English: The first item on our agenda this afternoon is questions to the Minister for Economy, Transport and North Wales, and the first question is from Mark Isherwood.
Welsh: Felly, yr eitem gyntaf ar ein hagenda ni y prynhawn yma yw'r cwestiynau i Weinidog yr Economi, Trafnidiaeth a'r gogledd, ac mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf gan Mark Isherwood.
English: The pandemic, along with the imminent end of the European Union transition period, is causing a very uncertain and worrying period for businesses across north Wales. The greatest risk, of course, to the economy is in not doing enough, soon enough, which is why our £1.7 billion package of support is the most generous anywhere in the United Kingdom.
Welsh: Mae'r pandemig, ynghyd â diwedd cyfnod pontio'r Undeb Ewropeaidd sydd ar fin digwydd, yn golygu ei bod yn gyfnod ansicr a phryderus iawn i fusnesau ledled gogledd Cymru. Y risg fwyaf i'r economi wrth gwrs yw peidio â gwneud digon yn ddigon buan, a dyna pam mai ein pecyn cymorth gwerth £1.7 biliwn yw'r mwyaf hael yn unrhyw ran o'r Deyrnas Unedig.
English: Thank you. Last week, a survey on the impact of lockdowns on the tourism, hospitality, retail, leisure sectors and their supply chains in north Wales, conducted by North Wales Tourism with support from the North Wales Mersey Dee Business Council, was published. Carried out over four days, from 21 October, with 364 businesses responding from across the region, this found that 31 per cent would be making further staff redundancies before the end of March 2021, that 39 per cent would cease trading if there are any further national or local lockdowns before then, and that 81 per cent of respondents stated that their mental health had been negatively impacted running a business under pandemic circumstances. How do you therefore respond to their call for meaningful regional and local business engagement with you, across all sectors, before any more lockdowns come, to include the outlining of the process of entering the next new lockdowns, the evidence for the decision making, operational guidance for businesses and details of the business support available, before any lockdowns begin?
Welsh: Diolch. Yr wythnos diwethaf, cyhoeddwyd arolwg o effaith cyfyngiadau symud ar y sectorau twristiaeth, lletygarwch, manwerthu, hamdden a'u cadwyni cyflenwi yng ngogledd Cymru, arolwg a gynhaliwyd gan Twristiaeth Gogledd Cymru gyda chymorth Cyngor Busnes Gogledd Cymru a Merswy Dyfrdwy. Fe'i cynhaliwyd dros bedwar diwrnod, o 21 Hydref ymlaen, gyda 364 o fusnesau'n ymateb o bob rhan o'r rhanbarth, a chanfu y byddai 31 y cant yn diswyddo rhagor o staff cyn diwedd mis Mawrth 2021, y byddai 39 y cant yn rhoi'r gorau i fasnachu os oes unrhyw gyfnodau pellach o gyfyngiadau symud cyn hynny, a bod 81 y cant o ymatebwyr wedi dweud bod eu hiechyd meddwl wedi'i effeithio'n negyddol wrth redeg busnes o dan amgylchiadau pandemig. Sut rydych chi'n ymateb felly i'w galwad am ymgysylltiad busnes ystyrlon â chi, yn rhanbarthol a lleol, ar draws pob sector, cyn y daw rhagor o gyfyngiadau symud, i gynnwys amlinellu'r broses o fynd i mewn i gyfnodau newydd sydd i ddod o gyfyngiadau symud, y dystiolaeth ar gyfer gwneud penderfyniadau, canllawiau gweithredol i fusnesau a manylion y cymorth busnes sydd ar gael, cyn i unrhyw gyfnodau o gyfyngiadau symud ddechrau?
English: Can I thank Mark Isherwood for his supplementary question and say that we are acutely aware of the very severe effects of coronavirus not just in terms of public health, but also in terms of the mental and emotional resilience of citizens and, of course, those people in charge of businesses across the length and breadth of Wales? The survey does point to many factors that need to be addressed not just by the Welsh Government, but also, of course, by the UK Government. And in my engagement with representative organisations and businesses direct, the primary call in recent months has been for the furlough scheme to be extended through to March. That has now happened. We wish it would have happened earlier because, of course, businesses need certainty. I can say, with regard to tourism and hospitality businesses in north Wales, that more than 1,200 micro- and small and medium-sized enterprise businesses in those sectors in north Wales have succeeded in drawing down funding from the first two phases of the economic resilience fund, and in north Wales, a further 105 businesses within tourism and hospitality have been successful in drawing down funding from the Development Bank of Wales. This points to the most comprehensive and generous package of support anywhere in the United Kingdom. Of course, the 17-day firebreak was difficult for businesses, there is no doubt about that, but it's better to have a 17-day firebreak than a four-week lockdown, which was necessitated by the UK Government delaying its actions.
Welsh: A gaf fi ddiolch i Mark Isherwood am ei gwestiwn atodol a dweud ein bod yn ymwybodol iawn o effeithiau difrifol iawn coronafeirws nid yn unig o ran iechyd y cyhoedd, ond hefyd o ran cadernid meddyliol ac emosiynol dinasyddion ac wrth gwrs, y bobl sy'n gyfrifol am fusnesau ar hyd a lled Cymru? Mae'r arolwg yn cyfeirio at lawer o ffactorau y mae angen i Lywodraeth Cymru fynd i'r afael â hwy, a Llywodraeth y DU hefyd wrth gwrs. Ac wrth ymgysylltu'n uniongyrchol â sefydliadau a busnesau cynrychioliadol, y brif alwad yn ystod y misoedd diwethaf oedd i'r cynllun ffyrlo gael ei ymestyn hyd at fis Mawrth. Mae hynny wedi digwydd erbyn hyn. Byddai'n dda gennym pe bai wedi digwydd yn gynharach oherwydd, wrth gwrs, mae angen sicrwydd ar fusnesau. O ran busnesau twristiaeth a lletygarwch yng ngogledd Cymru, gallaf ddweud bod dros 1,200 o ficrofusnesau a busnesau bach a chanolig eu maint yn y sectorau hynny yno wedi llwyddo i gael arian o ddau gam cyntaf y gronfa cadernid economaidd, ac yng ngogledd Cymru, mae 105 o fusnesau eraill ym maes twristiaeth a lletygarwch wedi llwyddo i gael cyllid gan Fanc Datblygu Cymru. Dyma'r pecyn cymorth mwyaf cynhwysfawr a hael yn unrhyw ran o'r Deyrnas Unedig. Wrth gwrs, roedd y cyfnod atal byr o 17 diwrnod yn anodd i fusnesau, nid oes amheuaeth am hynny, ond mae'n well cael cyfnod atal byr o 17 diwrnod na chyfyngiadau symud am bedair wythnos, fel y bu'n rhaid i Lywodraeth y DU ei wneud ar ôl gohirio camau gweithredu.
English: I welcome the funding provided to businesses across north Wales, and in my constituency, through the various phases of the economic resilience fund. But I still see businesses who can't access support because, for example, they aren't registered for VAT or because they don't employ people through PAYE. Now, I welcome the fact that there will be a fourth phase of the ERF, but can the Minister tell us what assessment he wants to see made of those businesses, or those business sectors, who have lost out on all opportunities to access support to date? And will it be possible to change the requirements in the future so that those businesses can bid for funding from the next rounds of support available?
Welsh: Dwi'n croesawu'r arian sydd wedi cael ei roi i fusnesau ar draws y gogledd, ac yn fy etholaeth i, drwy wahanol gamau y gronfa cadernid economaidd. Ond dwi'n dal i weld busnesau sy'n methu â chael cymorth, er enghraifft oherwydd nad ydyn nhw wedi cofrestru ar gyfer treth ar werth neu dydyn nhw ddim yn cyflogi pobl drwy PAYE. Rŵan, dwi'n croesawu'r ffaith y bydd yna bedwerydd cam o'r gronfa cadernid economaidd, ond a all y Gweinidog ddweud wrthym ni pa asesiad y mae o am ei weld yn cael ei wneud o'r busnesau, neu'r sectorau o fusnesau, sydd wedi colli ar bob cyfle, mae'n ymddangos, i gael cymorth hyd yma? Ac a fydd yna fodd i newid y gofynion yn y dyfodol er mwyn i'r busnesau hynny allu gwneud cais am arian o'r rowndiau nesaf o gymorth sydd ar gael?
English: Can I thank Rhun ap Iorwerth for his question? A number of Members have asked similar questions in recent weeks, and I can confirm that there is discretion within the third phase of the economic resilience fund, within that £200 million of lockdown business grants that are available across Wales, to enable those businesses that have fallen through the gap, so far, to get necessary support. I'm also pleased to be able to tell the Member for Ynys Môn today that, with regard to the third phase of the economic resilience fund, more than 940 awards have already been made to businesses in his constituency, supporting and securing work for more than 3,500 people. That shows the value of the latest phase of the economic resilience fund, a fund that is part of the most comprehensive and generous package of support for businesses anywhere in the UK.
Welsh: A gaf fi ddiolch i Rhun ap Iorwerth am ei gwestiwn? Mae nifer o'r Aelodau wedi gofyn cwestiynau tebyg yn ystod yr wythnosau diwethaf, a gallaf gadarnhau bod disgresiwn yn nhrydydd cam y gronfa cadernid economaidd, o fewn y £200 miliwn o grantiau i fusnesau dan gyfyngiadau sydd ar gael ledled Cymru, i alluogi'r busnesau sydd wedi disgyn drwy'r rhwyd hyd yma i gael y cymorth angenrheidiol. Mewn perthynas â thrydydd cam y gronfa cadernid economaidd, rwy'n falch hefyd o allu dweud wrth yr Aelod dros Ynys Môn heddiw fod dros 940 o ddyfarniadau eisoes wedi'u gwneud i fusnesau yn ei etholaeth, er mwyn cefnogi a diogelu gwaith i fwy na 3,500 o bobl. Mae hynny'n dangos gwerth cam diweddaraf y gronfa cadernid economaidd, cronfa sy'n rhan o'r pecyn cymorth mwyaf cynhwysfawr a hael i fusnesau yn unrhyw ran o'r DU.
English: Minister, coronavirus has, quite clearly, taken its toll on businesses in north-east Wales, and I have been calling on the UK Government to support the industry in this area, and their failure and slowness to react has cost jobs. Now, the Welsh Government must do all it can to continue to help. Since being elected to this Senedd, I've been a big supporter of the Heathrow logistics hub, that could be sited at Tata steelworks in Shotton, and the advanced technology research area and the Northern Gateway at Sealand. Can you update the Chamber on how the Welsh Government can support projects such as these?
Welsh: Weinidog, mae'n amlwg fod y coronafeirws wedi cael effaith ar fusnesau yng ngogledd-ddwyrain Cymru, ac rwyf wedi bod yn galw ar Lywodraeth y DU i gefnogi'r diwydiant yn yr ardal hon, ac mae eu methiant a'u harafwch i ymateb wedi costio mewn swyddi. Nawr, rhaid i Lywodraeth Cymru wneud popeth yn ei gallu i barhau i helpu. Ers cael fy ethol i'r Senedd hon, rwyf wedi bod yn gefnogwr mawr i ganolfan logisteg Heathrow, y gellid ei lleoli yng ngwaith dur Tata yn Shotton, a'r ardal ymchwil technoleg uwch a Phorth y Gogledd yn Sealand. A allwch roi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf i'r Siambr ynglŷn â sut y gall Llywodraeth Cymru gefnogi prosiectau fel y rhain?
English: Yes, of course. We're doing everything possible to support businesses across all parts of Wales. In the Vale of Glamorgan, for example, 612 microbusinesses and small and medium-sized enterprises have been awarded funding through the Wales-only economic resilience fund, securing thousands of jobs, and, of course, our £200 million-package of lockdown business grants is still open for applications.
Welsh: Gwnaf wrth gwrs. Rydym yn gwneud popeth posibl i gefnogi busnesau ar draws pob rhan o Gymru. Ym Mro Morgannwg, er enghraifft, mae 612 o ficrofusnesau a busnesau bach a chanolig eu maint wedi cael arian drwy'r gronfa cadernid economaidd i Gymru'n unig, gan sicrhau miloedd o swyddi, ac wrth gwrs, mae ein pecyn gwerth £200 miliwn o grantiau i fusnesau dan gyfyngiadau symud yn dal ar agor i geisiadau.
English: Thank you, Minister, for that answer. Obviously, regrettably, one line of support - the business development grant - was closed after 24 hours. In one message it said that it was for assessment of the bids, and the other message said that it had been fully subscribed. Can the Minister give any confidence today to the argument that this fund should be reopened, if it attracts additional funding from within Government, and that those that had applied and, sadly, had not been successful will get a second chance if the fund is reopened?
Welsh: Diolch am yr ateb hwnnw, Weinidog. Yn anffodus wrth gwrs, caewyd un edefyn o gymorth - y grant datblygu busnes - ar ôl 24 awr. Dywedai un neges fod hynny wedi digwydd er mwyn asesu'r ceisiadau, a dywedai neges arall nad oedd rhagor o arian ar gyfer ceisiadau pellach. A all y Gweinidog roi unrhyw hyder heddiw i'r ddadl y dylid ailagor y gronfa hon, os yw'n denu cyllid ychwanegol gan y Llywodraeth, ac y bydd y rhai a wnaeth gais aflwyddiannus yn cael ail gyfle os caiff y gronfa ei hailagor?