English: Because I don't regard the constitutional arrangements of Belgium has remotely comparable to the constitution of the United Kingdom. And the position that she's advocating is consistent with the question of independence, and that's where the question starts and ends, and she knows that these benches to not support that constitutional objective. I will just point out to her that the example that is most often held up as an exemplar of the involvement of, as they are often described, sub-state Governments in the negotiation of arrangements with the European Union, is the Canadian example, where some of the provinces of Canada were effectively directly involved in those negotiations. Canada's constitution, as I understand it, does not reflect the principles that she is advocating, and Plaid Cymru are advocating in their motion today, and yet, the provinces in that example were involved in those discussions. And those are the sorts of arrangements that we think are substantively effective, and that is what we should focus on. We have repeatedly called on the UK Government to put in place a pragmatic and sensible set of arrangements that would allow us significant involvement in agreeing the mandate. And I will also say that, from the point of view of our European Union partners, they recognise very well that there are implications as to how the contents of relationships in the future are implemented and given reality within the devolved constitution of the United Kingdom. So, our argument is, it's in the interest of the UK Government, and its credibility in those discussions, for our Government to have a voice in settling those mandates and negotiations.
Welsh: Oherwydd nad wyf o'r farn fod unrhyw fodd cymharu trefniadau cyfansoddiadol Gwlad Belg â chyfansoddiad y Deyrnas Unedig. Ac mae'r safbwynt y mae'n dadlau o'i blaid yn gyson â'r cwestiwn ynghylch annibyniaeth, a dyna lle mae'r cwestiwn yn dechrau ac yn gorffen, ac mae hi'n gwybod nad yw'r meinciau hyn yn cefnogi'r amcan cyfansoddiadol hwnnw. Hoffwn dynnu ei sylw at y ffaith mai'r enghraifft a nodir amlaf fel esiampl o gyfranogiad Llywodraethau is-wladwriaethol, fel y'u gelwir yn aml, wrth negodi trefniadau gyda'r Undeb Ewropeaidd, yw enghraifft Canada, lle bu rhai o daleithiau Canada yn rhan uniongyrchol o'r trafodaethau hynny i bob pwrpas. Nid yw cyfansoddiad Canada, yn ôl yr hyn a ddeallaf, yn adlewyrchu'r egwyddorion y mae hi'n dadlau o'u plaid, ac mae Plaid Cymru yn dadlau o'u plaid yn eu cynnig heddiw, ond serch hynny, roedd y taleithiau yn yr enghraifft honno'n rhan o'r trafodaethau hynny. A dyna'r mathau o drefniadau y credwn eu bod yn effeithiol o ran eu sylwedd, a dyna ddylem ganolbwyntio arno. Rydym wedi galw dro ar ôl tro ar Lywodraeth y DU i roi set bragmatig a synhwyrol o drefniadau ar waith a fyddai'n caniatáu inni gymryd rhan arwyddocaol yn y gwaith o gytuno ar y mandad. A dywedaf hefyd, o safbwynt ein partneriaid yn yr Undeb Ewropeaidd, eu bod yn cydnabod bod goblygiadau i'w cael o ran sut y caiff cynnwys unrhyw berthynas yn y dyfodol ei weithredu a'i wireddu yng nghyfansoddiad datganoledig y Deyrnas Unedig. Felly, ein dadl ni yw ei bod o fudd i Lywodraeth y DU, a'i hygrededd yn y trafodaethau hynny, i'n Llywodraeth ninnau gael llais wrth drafod y mandadau a'r trafodaethau hynny.