English: Well, I can be even briefer than Simon Thomas, considering that there are fewer unanswered questions left by the time you get to me. But I welcome the statement, and I would also like to put on record my opinion that the Cabinet Secretary has been very constructive in the way in which she has developed policy in this area and the farming community is very appreciative of the openness that she has shown and her willingness to listen and to engage them in practical discussions about dealing with this terrible disease. It is as important to the farming community and, indeed, the country as a whole that this be dealt with as it was when we had BSE. Certainly, as for the future, and for the marketing potential of agricultural products in Wales, dealing with TB and eradicating it, so far as we can, is going to be vital in the post-Brexit world. I know the Cabinet Secretary shares my view on that. To that end, although I'm a strong believer, as she knows, in proportionate regulation, the change in the regulations in relation to pre-movement testing in low TB areas is something that needs to be kept under review, and I'd like to know whether that will be done. I'd like to add my voice to what has already been said in relation to compensation for farmers for animals that are worth more than £5000, and I know that the Cabinet Secretary has just said that the compensation on average is 60 per cent more in England - I heard Llyr Gruffydd say a moment ago that that's because we have 60 per cent better cattle. I don't know whether that is actually true, but nevertheless, obviously, we don't want to pay over the odds for cattle, but nevertheless, we have to recognise that farm incomes are under extreme pressure and this does impose a real cost upon people in the real world. So, I do hope that, again, she will keep that under review. One of the big problems, of course, is the infection of animals in the wild, off farms. I do acknowledge the significant step that she has taken, which, in proper Sir Humphrey language, must have been regarded as courageous, to decide to have a limited cull where infected badgers can be found and to dispatch them humanely. That is a very significant step forward in principle, and I think she deserves our congratulations for that. As regards badger vaccination, I wonder whether she will agree with me that this doesn't really, I think, constitute a practical step for the eradication of this disease. We all remember that when vaccines were available, the cost per badger for those that were vaccinated was extortionate: getting on towards, I think, from memory, something like £1,000. So, it's very expensive and the badger population is difficult to monitor, so I think it's a bit of a blind alley to think that if the vaccine ever becomes available again in significant quantities it's going to be the answer to this disease. My last point is in relation to the role of the Animal and Plant Health Agency and the requirement, therefore, to have two vets on the farm to inspect animals. I know that this is a step forward in many ways, but this does impose an extra cost upon the farmer. His own vet is likely to know his own farm and his animals better than an APHA vet, so I wonder, therefore, whether, in order to assist, the Government might be able to pay for the cost of the APHA vet as well. One more point I would like some assurance on is that I know that the Cabinet Secretary can't give us exact timings, and increased cattle controls have been introduced this autumn, but can she confirm that the trapping and testing of badgers will also take place simultaneously with that this autumn, in line with the additional controls being placed on Welsh farmers? The farming industry has said it couldn't accept further cattle controls without action being taken concurrently, and I hope she can assure me today that that's likely to be the case.
Welsh: Wel, gallaf i fod hyd yn oed yn fwy cryno na Simon Thomas, o ystyried bod llai o gwestiynau heb eu hateb erbyn i chi ddod ataf i. Ond rwy'n croesawu'r datganiad, ac fe hoffwn i hefyd gofnodi fy marn bod Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet wedi bod yn adeiladol iawn yn y ffordd y mae hi wedi datblygu polisi yn y maes hwn ac mae'r gymuned ffermio yn gwerthfawrogi'n fawr y natur agored y mae wedi ei dangos a'i pharodrwydd i wrando ac ymgysylltu â nhw mewn trafodaethau ymarferol ynglŷn ag ymdrin â'r afiechyd ofnadwy hwn. Mae yr un mor bwysig i'r gymuned ffermio ac, yn wir, y wlad gyfan, y dylid ymdrin â hyn fel yr ymdriniwyd â BSE bryd hynny. Yn sicr, o ran y dyfodol, a photensial marchnata cynhyrchion amaethyddol yng Nghymru, bydd ymdrin â TB a'i ddileu, cyn belled ag y gallwn ni, yn hanfodol yn y byd ar ôl Brexit. Rwy'n gwybod bod Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet yn rhannu fy marn i ar hynny. I'r perwyl hwnnw, er fy mod yn credu'n gryf, fel y gŵyr hi, mewn rheoleiddio cymesur, mae'r newid yn y rheoliadau sy'n ymwneud â phrofion cyn symud mewn ardaloedd TB isel yn rhywbeth y mae angen ei adolygu yn barhaus, ac fe hoffwn i wybod a fydd hynny'n digwydd. Fe hoffwn i ychwanegu at yr hyn a ddywedwyd eisoes ynglŷn ag iawndal i ffermwyr ar gyfer anifeiliaid sydd gwerth mwy na £5,000, ac fe wn i fod Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet newydd ddweud bod yr iawndal ar gyfartaledd 60 y cant yn fwy nag yn Lloegr - fe glywais i Llyr Gruffydd yn dweud ychydig yn ôl bod hynny oherwydd bod gennym ni wartheg sydd 60 y cant yn well. Nid wyf i'n gwybod a yw hynny'n wir mewn gwirionedd, ond serch hynny, yn amlwg, nid ydym ni eisiau talu'n fwy na'r angen am wartheg, ond serch hynny, mae'n rhaid i ni gydnabod bod incwm ffermydd o dan bwysau eithafol ac mae hyn yn gosod cost wirioneddol ar bobl yn y byd go iawn. Felly, rwy'n gobeithio, unwaith eto, y bydd hi'n parhau i adolygu hynny. Un o'r problemau mawr, wrth gwrs, yw anifeiliaid y gwyllt, oddi ar ffermydd sydd wedi eu heintio. Rwyf i'n cydnabod y cam sylweddol y mae hi wedi'i gymryd, ac mae'n rhaid, yn iaith briodol Syr Humphrey, yr ystyrid hynny yn ddewr, i benderfynu difa hyn a hyn o foch daear ble maent i'w canfod gyda'r haint arnyn nhw, ac i wneud hynny mewn modd gwaraidd. Mae hynny yn gam ymlaen arwyddocaol iawn mewn egwyddor, ac, yn fy marn i, mae hi'n haeddu ein llongyfarchiadau am hynny. O ran brechu moch daear, tybed a yw hi'n cytuno â mi nad yw hyn mewn gwirionedd, yn fy marn i, yn gam ymarferol i ddileu'r clefyd hwn. Rydym ni i gyd yn cofio pan oedd y brechlynnau ar gael, roedd y gost am bob mochyn daear a frechwyd yn rhyfeddol: cymaint â, rwy'n credu, os cofiaf yn iawn, rhywbeth fel £1,000. Felly, mae'n ddrud iawn ac mae poblogaeth y moch daear yn anodd ei monitro, felly rwy'n credu mai gam gwag yw meddwl os bydd y brechlyn erioed ar gael eto mewn niferoedd sylweddol, y bydd hynny'n ateb i'r clefyd hwn. Mae fy mhwynt olaf yn ymwneud â swyddogaeth yr Asiantaeth Iechyd Anifeiliaid a Phlanhigion a'r gofyniad, felly, i gael dau filfeddyg ar y fferm i archwilio anifeiliaid. Fe wn i fod hwn yn gam ymlaen mewn sawl ffordd, ond mae hyn yn gost ychwanegol i'r ffermwr. Mae'n debygol y bydd ei filfeddyg ei hun yn adnabod ei fferm a'i anifeiliaid ei hun yn well na milfeddyg yr Asiantaeth, tybed felly, er mwyn cynorthwyo, a allai'r Llywodraeth dalu am gost milfeddyg yr Asiantaeth hefyd. Un pwynt arall yr hoffwn i gael rhywfaint o sicrwydd yn ei gylch yw fy mod i'n gwybod na all Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet roi union amseroedd i ni, ac fe wn i y cyflwynwyd rheolaethau uwch ar gyfer gwartheg yr hydref hwn, ond a all hi gadarnhau y bydd y broses o ddal a phrofi moch daear hefyd yn digwydd ar yr un pryd yr hydref hwn, yn unol â'r rheolaethau ychwanegol sy'n cael eu rhoi ar ffermwyr Cymru? Mae'r diwydiant ffermio wedi dweud na allai dderbyn rhagor o reolaethau ar wartheg heb fod hynny'n digwydd ar yr un pryd, ac rwy'n gobeithio ei bod hi'n gallu rhoi sicrwydd i mi heddiw fod hynny'n debygol.