English: Llywydd, I thank Paul Davies for those points, and I want to agree with him: it is very important indeed that Ministers and people in Wales can be confident that information that is published by our system is accurate and reliable. That is why, as soon as I was alerted to the fact that there had been an under-reporting of deaths from Betsi Cadwaladr, I instituted the review that was published by the health Minister yesterday. I do want to just correct some of the detail in the leader of the opposition's question, because the sequence of events was in this way: Betsi Cadwaladr had been reporting information into Public Health Wales. Up until 18 April, Public Health Wales published only a global Wales-wide figure of deaths, and Betsi Cadwaladr assumed - as I think they were entitled to do - that their figures were being reflected in that global Welsh figure. On 18 April, Public Health Wales moved to publishing deaths at a disaggregated, health board level, and immediately Betsi Cadwaladr alerted Public Health Wales to the fact that the figures that they had been submitting did not appear to be reflected in the figure that Public Health Wales published at the disaggregated level. Now, it then did take from 18 April to 23 April for Public Health Wales to work with BCU to discuss what had gone on and to carry out a data validation process, and we were informed on 24 April of the results of that discussion. That is the point that I said that I wanted further assurances from Public Health Wales that the detail that they were publishing stood up to scrutiny. And then - . So, I just want to be clear with the Member that a month didn't go by while people knew about this and did nothing about it. Betsi Cadwaladr alerted Public Health Wales on the day that disaggregated data was published, when they could see that something had gone wrong, and then it took until 23/24 April for that to come to the Welsh Government's attention. Paul Davies, Llywydd, then asked me what has been done to make sure that figures from now on are accurately reported. He will see there are eight actions set out in the report published. Here are some of the most significant: weekly telephone calls between Public Health Wales and all local health boards to make sure that nothing is going astray; confirmation from the chief medical officer to each health board that they are to use the new electronic reporting system; increased local quality assurance; a further quality assurance check by Public Health Wales; and now, for the first time, the whole system to be overseen by the chief statistician, an individual independent of the health service itself and now involved in making sure that the figures published are ones in which we can all have confidence.
Welsh: Llywydd, diolchaf i Paul Davies am y pwyntiau yna, a hoffwn gytuno ag ef: mae'n bwysig iawn yn wir bod Gweinidogion a phobl Cymru yn gallu bod yn ffyddiog bod y wybodaeth a gyhoeddir gan ein system yn gywir ac yn ddibynadwy. Dyna pam, cyn gynted ag y tynnwyd fy sylw at y ffaith y bu tangofnodi marwolaethau gan Betsi Cadwaladr, y gwnes i sefydlu'r adolygiad a gyhoeddwyd gan y Gweinidog iechyd ddoe. Mi ydw i'n awyddus i gywiro rhai o'r manylion yng nghwestiwn arweinydd yr wrthblaid, gan mai fel hyn yr oedd trefn y digwyddiadau: roedd Betsi Cadwaladr wedi bod yn cofnodi gwybodaeth gydag Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru. Tan 18 Ebrill, roedd Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru yn cyhoeddi ffigur Cymru gyfan cyffredinol o farwolaethau yn unig, a thybiodd Betsi Cadwaladr - fel yr oedd ganddyn nhw hawl i'w wneud yn fy marn i - bod eu ffigurau'n cael eu hadlewyrchu yn y ffigur cyffredinol hwnnw ar gyfer Cymru. Ar 18 Ebrill, symudodd Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru i gyhoeddi marwolaethau ar lefel byrddau iechyd wedi'u dadgyfuno, a thynnodd Betsi Cadwaladr sylw Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru yn syth at y ffaith nad oedd yn ymddangos bod y ffigurau yr oedden nhw wedi bod yn eu cyflwyno yn cael eu hadlewyrchu yn y ffigur a gyhoeddodd Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru ar y lefel ddatgyfunedig. Nawr, fe wnaeth hi gymryd o 18 Ebrill i 23 Ebrill wedyn i Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru weithio gyda Bwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Betsi Cadwaladr i drafod yr hyn oedd wedi digwydd ac i gynnal proses dilysu data, a chawsom wybod ar 24 Ebrill beth oedd canlyniadau'r drafodaeth honno. Dyna'r pwynt y dywedais fy mod i eisiau cael sicrwydd pellach yn ei gylch gan Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru bod y manylion yr oedden nhw'n eu cyhoeddi yn gwrthsefyll craffu. Ac yna - . Felly, hoffwn fod yn eglur gyda'r Aelod na aeth mis heibio pan oedd pobl yn gwybod am hyn a ddim yn gwneud dim am y peth. Rhybuddiodd Betsi Cadwaladr Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru ar y diwrnod y cyhoeddwyd y data datgyfunedig hynny, pan roedden nhw'n gallu gweld bod rhywbeth wedi mynd o'i le, ac yna cymerodd hyd at 23/24 Ebrill i hynny ddod i sylw Llywodraeth Cymru. Gofynnodd Paul Davies i mi wedyn, Llywydd, beth sydd wedi cael ei wneud i wneud yn siŵr bod y ffigurau o hyn ymlaen yn cael eu hadrodd yn gywir. Bydd yn gweld bod wyth cam gweithredu wedi'u nodi yn yr adroddiad a gyhoeddwyd. Dyma rai o'r rhai mwyaf arwyddocaol: galwadau ffôn wythnosol rhwng Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru a phob bwrdd iechyd lleol i wneud yn siŵr nad oes dim yn mynd ar gyfeiliorn; cadarnhad gan y prif swyddog meddygol i bob bwrdd iechyd y dylen nhw ddefnyddio'r system adrodd electronig newydd; mwy o sicrhau ansawdd lleol; archwiliad sicrhau ansawdd pellach gan Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru; a nawr, am y tro cyntaf, bydd y system gyfan yn cael ei goruchwylio gan y prif ystadegydd, unigolyn sy'n annibynnol ar y gwasanaeth iechyd ei hun ac sydd bellach yn rhan o'r gwaith o wneud yn siŵr bod y ffigurau a gyhoeddir yn rhai y gallwn ni i gyd fod â ffydd ynddyn nhw.