English: I thank the Member for her intervention, and it's in a similar vein to the Member in front of me for Ogmore's interventions - 'Why do we need these? These things can be done anyway.' But I think that's missing the point in terms of what this does. It's a catalyst. Yes, it's potentially possible that these industries can thrive and survive without a free-port bid and without the benefits that a free port brings. But what it does is it catalysts it at one precise moment, so that these opportunities aren't lost. We are able to see local businesses and industries at the forefront of technology and industries, and I think that's what's really important is that if we don't take these opportunities, it's quite likely that companies outside of Wales, outside of the United Kingdom, can be at the forefront exploiting the opportunities that are afforded to local companies and local businesses. And that's why I think there isn't going to be that dispersal of jobs in Wales through a free-port bid, especially the Celtic free-port bid. I think that's really apparent and needs to be really clear, because there is real opportunity. But the Celtic free port isn't just about bringing economic investment. It's critical to the component in securing the UK's energy security, with the added benefit of decarbonising existing industries, keeping employment whilst granting us the ability to meet our net-zero ambitions. I too take optimism from the fact that the UK and Welsh Governments have worked together on this, making sure that the free-port policy in Wales is right for Wales. And as Paul Davies, my constituency neighbour in Preseli Pembrokeshire, has rightly highlighted in his opening remarks, Wales's potential is second to none. And while I may disagree with him on Preseli Pembrokeshire being the energy capital, with RWE power station and Valero oil refinery in my constituency, that's an argument he and I can have on another day. But it's really important that we can see the ability that's here, so while I take that optimism - and I see the Minister in front of me smiling - from this collaboration, I look up the M4 and urge all key decision makers to ensure that Wales's potential can be unleashed through two successful free-port bids. This can ensure that the opportunities unlocked via free-port status can be applied right across Wales from one corner to the other. We can work cross-party on this, with the UK Government and Welsh Government working hand in hand, supercharging Wales's green economy, ensuring that Wales can become the beating heart of the United Kingdom's energy security, with all corners of Wales playing their part. It's with that that I urge Members to support not only our motion here today, but also the Celtic free-port bid. Diolch yn fawr.
Welsh: Diolch i'r Aelod am ei hymyriad, ac mae'n debyg i ymyriadau'r Aelod dros Ogwr o fy mlaen - 'Pam fod angen y rhain arnom? Gellir gwneud y pethau hyn beth bynnag.' Ond credaf fod hynny'n camddeall y pwynt o ran yr hyn y mae'n ei wneud. Mae'n gatalydd. Ydy, mae'n bosibl y gall y diwydiannau hyn ffynnu a goroesi heb gais porthladd rhydd a heb y buddion a ddaw yn sgil porthladd rhydd. Ond yr hyn y mae'n ei wneud yw ei wneud yn gatalydd ar un eiliad benodol, fel nad yw'r cyfleoedd hyn yn cael eu colli. Gallwn weld busnesau a diwydiannau lleol ar flaen y gad o ran technoleg a diwydiannau, a chredaf mai'r hyn sy'n wirioneddol bwysig yw ei bod hi'n bur debyg, os nad ydym yn achub ar y cyfleoedd hyn, mai cwmnïau y tu allan i Gymru, y tu allan i'r Deyrnas Unedig, a fydd ar flaen y gad yn manteisio ar y cyfleoedd a gynigir i gwmnïau lleol a busnesau lleol. A dyna pam fy mod yn credu na fydd swyddi'n cael eu gwasgaru yng Nghymru drwy gais porthladd rhydd, yn enwedig cais y porthladd rhydd Celtaidd. Credaf fod hynny'n wirioneddol amlwg ac mae angen iddo fod yn glir iawn, gan fod cyfle gwirioneddol i'w gael. Ond mae'r porthladd rhydd Celtaidd yn ymwneud â mwy na sicrhau buddsoddiad economaidd yn unig. Mae'n hanfodol i'r elfen o ddiogelu ffynonellau ynni'r DU, gyda'r fantais ychwanegol o ddatgarboneiddio diwydiannau presennol, a chadw swyddi gan roi'r gallu inni gyflawni ein huchelgeisiau sero net. Mae'n galonogol i minnau fod Llywodraethau'r DU a Chymru wedi cydweithio ar hyn, gan sicrhau bod y polisi porthladdoedd rhydd yng Nghymru yn iawn i Gymru. Ac fel y mae Paul Davies, fy nghymydog etholaethol ym Mhreseli Sir Benfro, wedi nodi'n gwbl gywir yn ei sylwadau agoriadol, mae potensial heb ei ail gan Gymru. Ac er fy mod yn anghytuno ag ef efallai mai Preseli Sir Benfro yw'r brifddinas ynni, gyda gorsaf ynni RWE a phurfa olew Valero yn fy etholaeth i, mae honno'n ddadl y gall ef a minnau ei chael rywbryd eto. Ond mae'n bwysig iawn ein bod yn gallu gweld y gallu sydd yma, felly er bod y cydweithio hwn yn galonogol - a gwelaf y Gweinidog o fy mlaen yn gwenu - edrychaf i fyny'r M4 ac annog pawb sy'n gwneud y penderfyniadau allweddol i sicrhau y gellir rhyddhau potensial Cymru drwy ddau gais porthladd rhydd llwyddiannus. Gall hyn sicrhau y gellir rhoi'r cyfleoedd a gaiff eu datgloi drwy statws porthladd rhydd ar waith ledled Cymru o un gornel i'r llall. Gallwn weithio'n drawsbleidiol ar hyn, gyda Llywodraeth y DU a Llywodraeth Cymru yn gweithio law yn llaw, gan roi hwb i economi werdd Cymru, a sicrhau y gall Cymru fod wrth wraidd y gwaith o ddiogelu ffynonellau ynni'r Deyrnas Unedig, gyda phob rhan o Gymru yn chwarae eu rhan. Gyda hynny, rwy'n annog yr Aelodau i gefnogi nid yn unig ein cynnig yma heddiw, ond hefyd cais y porthladd rhydd Celtaidd. Diolch yn fawr.