English: On the final point, it's difficult to answer that without some particular examples. So, if you want to come to me with particular examples of where the third sector have been engaged or not engaged, that would be helpful, rather than more general involvement and engagement with the third sector in a wide variety of services, which I can't properly respond to. On the point about the four-hour deterioration, we have seen a deterioration, and it's due to a range of factors that affect the health service around the UK. It's partly about an increase in demand, it's partly about the ability to have a more joined-up approach with primary care and social care. It's also partly about changing some of the leadership and the challenges within those departments. That's part of the improvement work that we've been doing. Again, going back to the visit that I had in Ysbyty Glan Clwyd, they recognised that the work that was being done there - they could recognise that it was improving the position for them as staff and the care that they were able to provide. But if we're not able to have something to keep more people in their own homes successfully and get them out of hospital appropriately as well, then we'll continue to see a deterioration that is most recognised at the front door of our hospitals. So, actually, being able to deliver more effectively on resolving delayed transfers of care and moving people out of the hospital sector is a big challenge in the front-door problems that we see in every part of our system where we recognise it, including, and in particular, in north Wales. And again, I've never tried to hide from the fact that the challenges in the four-hour figure are there and are real for staff and patients as well. I simply reject your assertion that we've seen enhanced suffering from the way in which we're trying to support a shift in local healthcare arrangements. The investment we're making in joint health and social care centres is delivering better care closer to home, and actually, we need to carry on with that journey - it's been validated by the advice and the challenge that we've had in the parliamentary review. We're not going to take a step back to the older provision that we have had, but we do need to think about how we invest in different capacity within our system. Some of that will be in social care, some of that will be in the residential sector, or in step-up and step-down facilities. And that's also why health and local government need to work more effectively together to commission and agree on the funding and provision of those services. In terms of your point about Tawel Fan families and the report and the difference in the conclusion of the Ockenden and HASCAS reports, we've run through this on a previous occasion when I actually made a statement and answered questions on the HASCAS report. And again I've been clear that there was further information available in much greater clarity, volume and certainty to the HASCAS organisation, and it is understandable to see why, with different information being provided to them that was not available to Donna Ockenden, to be fair to her, when she undertook her first report, different conclusions have been reached. Individual families are still being worked through to have their individual reports provided to them and an explanation from HASCAS about the individual-level challenges they've seen. That is a process that will need to continue and is being worked through with the help of HASCAS and the families in question.
Welsh: Ynglŷn â'r manylyn olaf, mae'n anodd ateb hynny heb rai enghreifftiau penodol. Felly, os hoffech chi sôn wrthyf i am enghreifftiau penodol o ble mae'r trydydd sector wedi cymryd rhan neu heb gymryd rhan, byddai hynny'n ddefnyddiol, yn hytrach na chyfranogiad ac ymgysylltiad mwy cyffredinol â'r trydydd sector mewn amrywiaeth eang o wasanaethau, na allaf ymateb yn briodol iddo. Ynglŷn â'r pwynt ynghylch y dirywiad pedair awr, rydym ni wedi gweld dirywiad, ac mae hynny oherwydd amrywiaeth o ffactorau sy'n effeithio ar y gwasanaeth iechyd ledled y DU. Mae'n rhannol ynglŷn â chynnydd mewn galw, yn rhannol ynglŷn â gallu cydweithio'n well â gofal sylfaenol a gofal cymdeithasol. Mae hefyd yn rhannol ynglŷn â newid elfennau o'r arweinyddiaeth a'r heriau yn yr adrannau hynny. Mae hynny'n rhan o'r gwaith gwella yr ydym wedi'i wneud. Unwaith eto, i ddychwelyd at yr ymweliad y bûm i arno yn Ysbyty Glan Clwyd, roedden nhw'n cydnabod bod y gwaith a oedd yn cael ei wneud yno - gallent gydnabod ei fod yn gwella'r sefyllfa ar eu cyfer nhw fel staff a'r gofal roedden nhw'n gallu ei ddarparu. Ond os nad ydym ni'n gallu gwneud rhywbeth i gadw mwy o bobl yn eu cartrefi eu hunain yn llwyddiannus a'u cael allan o'r ysbyty yn briodol yn ogystal, yna byddwn yn parhau i weld dirywiad sydd ar ei fwyaf amlwg ym mannau aros yr ysbytai. Felly, mewn gwirionedd, mae gallu darparu yn fwy effeithiol o ran datrys achosion o oedi wrth drosglwyddo gofal a symud pobl allan o'r sector ysbyty yn her fawr o ran y problemau a welwn ni o ran amseroedd aros ym mhob rhan o'n system pan rydym ni'n cydnabod hynny, gan gynnwys, ac yn benodol, yn y gogledd. Ac eto, nid wyf erioed wedi ceisio celu'r ffaith bod heriau yn y ffigur pedair awr a bod hynny yn effeithio ar staff a chleifion hefyd. Rwy'n gwrthod eich honiad ein bod ni wedi gweld mwy o ddioddef oherwydd y modd yr ydym ni'n ceisio cefnogi newid yn y trefniadau gofal iechyd lleol. Mae'r buddsoddiad yr ydym ni'n ei wneud mewn canolfannau iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol ar y cyd yn darparu gwell gofal yn nes i'r cartref, ac i ddweud y gwir, mae angen inni barhau'r â'r daith honno - mae wedi'i dilysu gan y cyngor a'r her a gawsom ni yn yr arolwg seneddol. Nid ydym ni'n mynd i ddychwelyd i'r ddarpariaeth hŷn a oedd gennym ni, ond mae angen inni feddwl ynglŷn â sut yr ydym ni'n buddsoddi yng ngalluoedd gwahanol ein system. Bydd rhywfaint o hynny ym maes gofal cymdeithasol, bydd rhywfaint o hynny yn y sector preswyl, neu mewn cyfleusterau cam-i-fyny neu ofal llai dwys. A dyna hefyd pam mae angen i iechyd a llywodraeth leol gydweithio'n fwy effeithiol i gomisiynu a chytuno ar gyllido a darparu'r gwasanaethau hynny. O ran eich sylw ynghylch teuluoedd Tawel Fan a'r adroddiad a'r gwahaniaeth yng nghasgliadau adroddiadau Ockenden a'r Gwasanaeth Cynghori ar Iechyd a Gofal Cymdeithasol, rydym ni wedi trafod hyn ar achlysur blaenorol pan roddais ddatganiad ac ateb cwestiynau ynglŷn ag adroddiad y Gwasanaeth Cynghori. Ac unwaith eto rwyf wedi bod yn glir bod gwybodaeth ychwanegol ar gael i sefydliad y Gwasanaeth Cynghori, a honno'n llawer mwy eglur, cynhwysfawr a sicr, ac mae'n ddealladwy gweld pam, gyda gwahanol wybodaeth wedi ei roi iddynt nad oedd ar gael i Donna Ockenden, i fod yn deg â hi, pan wnaeth hi ei hadroddiad cyntaf, y daethpwyd i gasgliadau gwahanol. Mae'r broses yn dal i fynd rhagddo o ran gweithio gyda theuluoedd unigol er mwyn darparu eu hadroddiadau unigol iddynt ac i gael esboniad gan y Gwasanaeth Cynghori am yr heriau a welson nhw ar lefel unigol. Mae hynny'n broses y bydd angen parhau ag ef ac mae'r Gwasanaeth Cynghori a'r teuluoedd dan sylw yn helpu yn hynny o beth.