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English: Of course, the convention and the Human Rights Act 1998 are rights that we have to incorporate into our own Welsh legislation. In fact, the UK Government has to do the same with its own legislation. Of course, we had the comments today from the Secretary of State for Wales that there was going to be the introduction of a bill of rights. I imagine that you as well, along with many others, met with the original committee that was set up to look at a bill of rights. It actually came to the conclusion that they could not fulfil their function without undermining some of the fundamental rights that were already in place. I think that the European convention on human rights is one of the great legacies that the United Kingdom has given to Europe. It was drafted by European lawyers; it was drafted and had the involvement of some great and well-established Welsh lawyers - persons who quite often learnt their trade and their understanding of the importance of these principles during the Nuremberg trials. Of course, among them was Lord Elwyn-Jones, and many others from Wales who made that. So, I think the contribution we have made to it - . We have actually set the standards. We have set the legislative framework by it. It was promoted by Winston Churchill, and it is recognised internationally as one of the great contributions to the establishment of standards, of rights, across the world. It would be, in my view, a very serious step indeed to actually do anything that undermined or withdrew from those particular standards.
Welsh: Wrth gwrs, mae'r confensiwn a Deddf Hawliau Dynol 1998 yn hawliau sy'n rhaid i ni eu hymgorffori yn ein deddfwriaeth Gymreig ein hunain. Mewn gwirionedd, rhaid i Lywodraeth y DU wneud yr un peth gyda'i deddfwriaeth ei hun. Wrth gwrs, cawsom y sylwadau heddiw gan Ysgrifennydd Gwladol Cymru fod deddf hawliau dynol yn mynd i gael ei chyflwyno. Tybiaf eich bod chi hefyd, ynghyd â llawer o rai eraill, wedi cyfarfod â'r pwyllgor gwreiddiol a sefydlwyd i edrych ar ddeddf hawliau dynol. Daeth i'r casgliad mewn gwirionedd na allent gyflawni eu swyddogaeth heb danseilio rhai o'r hawliau sylfaenol a oedd eisoes yn eu lle. Credaf fod y confensiwn Ewropeaidd ar hawliau dynol yn un o'r trysorau mawr a roddodd y Deyrnas Unedig i Ewrop. Cafodd ei ddrafftio gan gyfreithwyr Ewropeaidd; cafodd ei ddrafftio a bu rhai cyfreithwyr gwych a sefydledig o Gymru ynghlwm wrth y gwaith - yn aml, pobl a oedd wedi dysgu eu crefft a meithrin eu dealltwriaeth o bwysigrwydd yr egwyddorion hyn yn ystod treialon Nuremberg. Wrth gwrs, yn eu plith roedd yr Arglwydd Elwyn-Jones, a llawer o bobl eraill o Gymru a luniodd hwnnw. Felly, rwy'n meddwl bod y cyfraniad a wnaed gennym iddo - . Rydym wedi gosod y safonau mewn gwirionedd. Rydym wedi sefydlu'r fframwaith deddfwriaethol arno. Cafodd ei hyrwyddo gan Winston Churchill, a chaiff ei gydnabod yn rhyngwladol fel un o'r cyfraniadau mawr i sefydlu safonau, hawliau, ar draws y byd. Yn fy marn i, byddai'n gam difrifol iawn yn wir i wneud unrhyw beth sy'n tanseilio neu'n tynnu'n ôl o'r safonau hynny mewn gwirionedd.
English: I think the Member will appreciate that I've only been in position for seven days, so it'll be no surprise that I have had no discussions with other law officers on this matter, but it is clear that withdrawal from the EU is a massive constitutional shift for the UK. It will also have far-reaching implications for the devolution settlement.
Welsh: Rwy'n credu y bydd yr Aelod yn sylweddoli mai saith diwrnod yn unig sydd yna ers i mi ddechrau yn y swydd, felly ni fydd yn syndod nad wyf wedi cael unrhyw drafodaethau gyda swyddogion y gyfraith eraill ar y mater hwn, ond mae'n amlwg bod gadael yr UE yn newid cyfansoddiadol enfawr i'r DU. Bydd iddo oblygiadau pellgyrhaeddol hefyd o ran y setliad datganoli.
English: I thank the Counsel General for his response. May I tell him at the outset that his answers have been far more comprehensive than those I've received over the past five years, and that he himself received, on occasion, over the past five years? I respect the fact that there hasn't been a great deal of time since his appointment, or since the referendum itself, of course. But, in terms of the debate that we've just had in this Chamber, it is clear that the way in which European law has been transposed into Welsh law and UK law is going to be a very complex question to be resolved over the next few years. May I refer to an article in today's 'Western Mail' by the barrister Emyr Lewis, who looks at how Welsh law will be part of the very complex question facing the legal profession over the next few years? What steps will be in place? For example, does the Counsel General intend to announce some sort of scoping exercise that could cover the various directives that impact on law here, so that we can at least understand the scope of the work before we try and understand how to withdraw?
Welsh: Diolch i'r Cwnsler am ei ateb, ac a gaf i ddweud wrtho ar y cychwyn fod ei atebion eisoes wedi bod llawer yn fwy cynhwysfawr nag a gefais i yn ystod y pum mlynedd diwethaf - nag a gafodd ef, o bryd i'w gilydd, yn ystod y pum mlynedd diwethaf hefyd? Rwy'n parchu'r ffaith nad oes llawer o amser wedi pasio ers iddo gael ei benodi, a'r refferendwm, wrth gwrs. Ond, o safbwynt y drafodaeth yr ydym newydd ei chael yn y Siambr hon, mae'n amlwg bod y ffordd y mae'r gyfraith Ewropeaidd wedi'i phlethu i mewn i gyfraith Cymru a chyfraith y Deyrnas Gyfunol yn mynd i fod yn gwestiwn dyrys yn ystod y blynyddoedd nesaf. A gaf i gyfeirio at erthygl sydd yn y 'Western Mail' heddiw gan y bargyfreithiwr Emyr Lewis, sydd yn edrych ar sut y bydd cyfraith Cymru yn rhan o'r cwestiynau dyrys iawn i'r proffesiwn cyfreithiol yn ystod y blynyddoedd nesaf? Felly, beth fydd y camau? Er enghraifft, a ydy'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol â golwg ar gyhoeddi, o leiaf, ryw fath o 'scoping exercise' sydd yn sôn am y gwahanol 'directives' a phethau sy'n effeithio ar gyfraith fan hyn, fel ein bod ni o leiaf yn gallu deall swmp y gwaith cyn mynd ati i ddeall sut i dynnu allan?
English: Thank you. Thank you very much, Counsel General.
Welsh: Diolch. Diolch yn fawr iawn, Gwnsler Cyffredinol.
English: Thank you for taking the intervention. Do you therefore regret the role UKIP MEPs took in 2014 when they didn't support the modernisation and movement of trade tariff and trade defence mechanisms? The words were, by a UKIP representative: 'UKIP does not vote for the EU doing things on our behalf.' They did not care for the steel industry.
Welsh: Diolch i chi am gymryd yr ymyriad. A ydych, felly, yn gresynu at rôl ASEau UKIP yn 2014 yn peidio â chefnogi moderneiddio a symud mecanweithiau tariff masnach ac amddiffyn masnach? Dyma eiriau cynrychiolydd UKIP: Nid yw UKIP yn pleidleisio o blaid yr UE yn gwneud pethau ar ein rhan. Nid oeddent yn malio am y diwydiant dur.
English: You don't have to have a conversation across the Chamber. Just carry on with your speech, please.
Welsh: Nid oes rhaid i chi gael sgwrs ar draws y Siambr. Parhewch â'ch araith os gwelwch yn dda.
English: I have selected the seven amendments to the motion. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be deselected. If amendment 2 is agreed, amendment 3 will be deselected. I call on Bethan Jenkins to move amendments 1, 4, 5, 6 and 7 tabled in the name of Simon Thomas.
Welsh: Rwyf wedi dethol y saith gwelliant i'r cynnig. Os derbynnir gwelliant 1, bydd gwelliannau 2 a 3 yn cael eu dad-ddethol. Os derbynnir gwelliant 2, bydd gwelliant 3 yn cael ei ddad-ddethol. Galwaf ar Bethan Jenkins i gynnig gwelliannau 1, 4, 5, 6 a 7 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Simon Thomas.
English: I thank the Member for taking the intervention. Do you therefore agree that it's important that we reuse that waste gas, and that it's important therefore that we keep the heavy end in the steelworks to actually produce that waste gas, so that the integrated works stays as an integrated works?
Welsh: Diolch i'r Aelod am dderbyn yr ymyriad. A ydych yn cytuno felly ei bod yn bwysig ein bod yn ailddefnyddio nwy gwastraff, a'i bod yn bwysig felly ein bod yn cadw'r pen trwm yn y gwaith dur i gynhyrchu'r nwy gwastraff hwnnw mewn gwirionedd, fel bod y gwaith integredig yn parhau'n waith integredig?
English: Thank you, we won't have - . I've said once before we won't have conversations across the Chamber. If you wanted to intervene you should have stood up and intervened on the Member, but we've lost that one. I call on Russell George to move amendment 2, tabled in the name of Paul Davies.
Welsh: Diolch, nid ydym eisiau - . Rwyf wedi dweud unwaith o'r blaen nad ydym am gael sgyrsiau ar draws y Siambr. Pe baech chi eisiau ymyrryd dylech fod wedi sefyll ar eich traed ac ymyrryd ar yr Aelod, ond rydym wedi colli'r un honno. Galwaf ar Russell George i gynnig gwelliant 2, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies.
English: You've got to wind it up now.
Welsh: Mae'n rhaid i chi ddirwyn i ben yn awr.
English: Yes, I will, in that case, wind up, Deputy Presiding Officer. Just to say that, from my perspective, I hope the Welsh and UK Governments continue to work together towards a positive outcome.
Welsh: Iawn, fe wnaf ddirwyn i ben felly, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Dim ond dweud, o fy safbwynt i, fy mod yn gobeithio y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru a Llywodraeth y DU yn parhau i weithio gyda'i gilydd tuag at ganlyniad cadarnhaol.
English: Thank you very much. I call on the Cabinet Secretary for Economy and Infrastructure to formally move amendment 3 tabled in the name of Jane Hutt. You can stand to do it; it's very nice. [Laughter.]
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Galwaf ar Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros yr Economi a'r Seilwaith i gynnig gwelliant 3 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Jane Hutt yn ffurfiol. Gallwch sefyll i wneud hynny; mae'n neis iawn. [Chwerthin.]
English: Move, formally.
Welsh: Cynnig, yn ffurfiol.
English: Move formally, thank you. David Rees.
Welsh: Cynnig yn ffurfiol, diolch. David Rees.
English: Does the Member recognise that, since the Brexit vote, the level of the pound has now declined by some 10 per cent and will that not flow through into significantly improved competitiveness for the Welsh and UK steel industry?
Welsh: A yw'r Aelod yn cydnabod, ers y bleidlais i adael yr UE, fod lefel y bunt bellach wedi gostwng oddeutu 10 y cant ac oni fydd hynny'n llifo drwodd i welliant sylweddol yng nghystadleurwydd y diwydiant dur yng Nghymru a'r DU?
English: Yes, I accept that point that the pound is down, therefore the exports are cheaper and possibly more enticing to buyers, but, of course, we are buying raw materials in dollars, and the pound has dropped like a rock to a 31-year low against the dollar, so the consequences are that we've probably got, perhaps, a worse situation, not necessarily a better situation.
Welsh: Ydw, rwy'n derbyn y pwynt fod y bunt yn is, felly mae'r allforion yn rhatach ac o bosibl yn fwy deniadol i brynwyr, ond wrth gwrs, rydym yn prynu deunyddiau crai mewn doleri, ac mae'r bunt wedi suddo fel plwm i bwynt is nag y gwnaeth ers 31 o flynyddoedd yn erbyn y ddoler, felly mae'r canlyniadau sydd gennym, yn ôl pob tebyg efallai, yn sefyllfa waeth, nid yn sefyllfa well o reidrwydd.
English: The steel industry in Wales is facing a crisis, which threatens jobs and livelihoods. So, I feel it is right and proper that we do deliberate on this issue in the Assembly. My UKIP colleague Caroline Jones has already pointed to the issue of tariffs and the way in which membership of the EU has constrained the UK's ability to respond to Chinese steel dumping. This point is, as ever, contentious in this Chamber. I personally endorse the point Caroline made, but I won't go over it again now as it's been argued several times in this Chamber. Obviously, we will never come -
Welsh: Mae'r diwydiant dur yng Nghymru yn wynebu argyfwng sy'n bygwth swyddi a bywoliaeth. Felly, rwy'n teimlo ei bod yn iawn ac yn briodol i ni ystyried y mater hwn yn y Cynulliad. Mae fy nghyd-Aelod UKIP, Caroline Jones, eisoes wedi tynnu sylw at fater tariffau a'r ffordd y mae aelodaeth o'r UE wedi cyfyngu ar allu'r DU i ymateb i ddympio dur o Tsieina. Mae'r pwynt, fel bob amser, yn ddadleuol yn y Siambr hon. Yn bersonol, rwy'n cymeradwyo'r pwynt a wnaeth Caroline, ond nid wyf am ymhel ag ef eto yn awr gan ei fod wedi bod yn destun dadl sawl gwaith yn y Siambr hon. Yn amlwg, ni fyddwn byth yn dod -
English: Go on. Go ahead, then.
Welsh: Iawn. Ewch ymlaen felly.
English: The point is the British Government also opposed those amendments.
Welsh: Y pwynt yw bod Llywodraeth Prydain hefyd wedi gwrthwynebu'r gwelliannau hynny.
English: Yes, I am coming to that.
Welsh: Do, rwy'n dod at hynny.
English: Why is, therefore, better in the hands of the British Government if they also voted in that way?
Welsh: Felly, pam y mae'n well yn nwylo Llywodraeth Prydain os ydynt hwy hefyd wedi pleidleisio yn y ffordd honno?
English: I'm just coming to the end, so, sorry. Their energy costs are relatively much lower than ours. So, we must look to regain control of our steel industry from the tentacles of EU bureaucracy, but we also need to legislate sensibly at home. Thank you.
Welsh: Rwy'n dod at y diwedd, felly, mae'n ddrwg gennyf. Mae eu costau ynni yn is o lawer o gymharu â'n rhai ni. Felly, rhaid i ni geisio adennill rheolaeth dros ein diwydiant dur o fachau biwrocratiaeth yr UE, ond mae angen i ni hefyd ddeddfu'n synhwyrol gartref. Diolch.
English: Oh, here we go again.
Welsh: O, dyma ni eto.
English: Last November the UK Government Minister asked Brussels to convene a meeting to discuss the tariffs. They agreed to that, but the time delays after that led to the outgoing economy Minister here, Edwina Hart, saying two months ago the rules were 'rather inflexible' and had driven her mad. When I raised this with the First Minister and what discussions he had had with the European Commission when we were recalled at the beginning of April, all he said was, 'we have been in correspondence with the Commission'. Do you agree with me that we need to know what dialogue has been occurring between the Welsh Government and the European Commission over these months?
Welsh: Fis Tachwedd diwethaf, gofynnodd Gweinidog Llywodraeth y DU i Frwsel alw cyfarfod i drafod y tariffau. Cytunasant i wneud hynny, ond parodd oedi ar ôl hynny i Edwina Hart, Gweinidog yr economi ymadawol y lle hwn, ddweud ddeufis yn ôl fod y rheolau braidd yn anhyblyg a'u bod wedi ei gyrru'n wallgof. Pan ofynnais i'r Prif Weinidog am hyn a pha drafodaethau a gafodd gyda'r Comisiwn Ewropeaidd pan gawsom ein galw yn ôl ddechrau mis Ebrill, y cyfan a ddywedodd oedd, rydym wedi bod yn gohebu â'r Comisiwn. A ydych yn cytuno bod angen i ni wybod pa ddeialog sydd wedi bod yn digwydd rhwng Llywodraeth Cymru a'r Comisiwn Ewropeaidd dros y misoedd hyn?
English: I must confess that when I first read the motion, that, following Brexit, Tata Steel in Port Talbot has a better chance of survival, I thought it was a sick joke. I don't want to begrudge those who campaigned to leave the EU their moment to enjoy their victory, but I would ask them not to be flippant. I have constituents working in Port Talbot, and hundreds of families reliant on the Trostre works in Llanelli who are deeply worried about the fallout from the decision to leave the EU, and today's motion is insensitive to their concerns. The early signs, I must say, are not encouraging. The downgrading of the UK's credit rating has already led to a halt in business investment in Wales. Just yesterday, I was told that a major pension fund had pulled out of a development in south Wales because they cannot put money into an economy that does not have a AAA rating. Grand claims about the benefits that will flow to us from being outside the EU already appear hollow, and the backtracking on the promise of extra money for the NHS is not encouraging. Of course, the truth is we don't know what the trade and tariff arrangements will be. It is possible they might be better. I doubt it, but let's be generous and optimistic; they might be. But the fact is that it's uncertain and is likely to be uncertain for several years to come. That uncertainty poses a significant risk to the future of the steelworks in the short term.
Welsh: Rhaid i mi gyfaddef pan ddarllenais y cynnig yn gyntaf sy'n dweud bod gwell gobaith i Tata Steel ym Mhort Talbot oroesi yn sgil gadael yr UE, roeddwn yn meddwl mai jôc sâl oedd hi. Nid wyf am warafun i'r rheini a ymgyrchodd i adael yr UE eu heiliad i fwynhau eu buddugoliaeth, ond byddwn yn gofyn iddynt beidio â bod yn anystyriol. Mae gennyf etholwyr sy'n gweithio ym Mhort Talbot, a channoedd o deuluoedd sy'n dibynnu ar waith Trostre yn Llanelli ac sy'n poeni'n fawr am ganlyniadau'r penderfyniad i adael yr UE, ac mae cynnig heddiw yn ansensitif i'w pryderon. Nid yw'r arwyddion cynnar, mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud, yn galonogol. Mae israddio statws credyd y DU eisoes wedi arwain at atal buddsoddiad busnes yng Nghymru. Ddoe ddiwethaf, dywedwyd wrthyf fod cronfa bensiwn fawr wedi tynnu allan o ddatblygiad yn ne Cymru oherwydd na allant roi arian i mewn i economi sydd heb statws AAA. Mae honiadau aruchel am y buddion a fydd yn llifo i ni o fod y tu allan i'r UE eisoes yn ymddangos yn wag, ac nid yw'r cefnu a wnaed ar yr addewid o arian ychwanegol ar gyfer y GIG yn galonogol. Wrth gwrs, y gwir yw nad ydym yn gwybod beth fydd y trefniadau masnach a thariff. Mae'n bosibl y gallent fod yn well. Rwy'n amau hynny, ond gadewch i ni fod yn hael ac yn optimistaidd; gallent fod. Ond y ffaith yw ei bod yn sefyllfa ansicr ac yn debygol o fod yn ansicr am nifer o flynyddoedd i ddod. Mae'r ansicrwydd hwnnw'n creu risg sylweddol i ddyfodol y gwaith dur yn y tymor byr.
English: I'm surprised by his comment about pension funds. France and the US have been downgraded from AAA - there are very few AAA economies out there. Surely, the one thing we do know is that exports from these plants are now 10 per cent cheaper than they were two weeks ago. We heard from Bethan that there are two and a half times more exports than imports. Surely, that's already improved competitiveness, and that's why our motion is a very serious motion - it should be addressed as such.
Welsh: Rwy'n synnu at ei sylw am gronfeydd pensiwn. Mae Ffrainc a'r Unol Daleithiau wedi cael eu hisraddio o statws AAA - ychydig iawn o economïau AAA sydd i'w cael. Yn sicr, yr un peth y gwyddom yw bod allforion o'r gweithfeydd hyn bellach 10 y cant yn rhatach nag yr oeddent bythefnos yn ôl. Clywsom gan Bethan fod dwywaith a hanner yn fwy o allforion na mewnforion. Yn sicr, mae hynny eisoes wedi gwella cystadleurwydd a dyna pam y mae ein cynnig yn un difrifol iawn - dylid ei drin felly.
English: I'm simply reflecting the views of business, and he's taking a very selective view of the economic picture to justify the hell that has been unleashed on the markets. An economic policy based simply on the cheap exchange rate is a very short-sighted one, I would argue. A few weeks ago, as David Rees, the Member for Aberavon, has already said, he and I met with the chief executive of Tata Steel in the UK, Mr Bimlendra Jha, here in the Assembly. It was clear from his conversation that if he was able to put a deal together to persuade the board of Tata in India to retain ownership of the UK plants, he would do his best, but he was worried about the liabilities of the pension fund and he was worried about the UK pulling out of the EU. Indeed, it is rumoured that a rescue deal was on the cards, but was pulled the morning after the vote. It is now harder to raise investment, so we cannot know whether the other bidders can proceed. The future of all the works in Wales and the workers' pensions is in doubt. So much for a better chance of survival being outside the EU. The Welsh Government, we know, has put money on the table, and Mr Jha made clear to us that Tata warmly welcomed that, in contrast to the lack of forthcoming information from the UK Government, who've yet to make good on their promises of help. But, the Brexiteers now need to deliver, and UKIP would do well to stop treating people's fears as a political plaything.
Welsh: Rwy'n adlewyrchu safbwyntiau busnesau, dyna'i gyd, ac mae ef yn rhoi safbwynt dethol iawn o'r darlun economaidd i gyfiawnhau'r uffern a ryddhawyd ar y marchnadoedd. Byddwn yn dadlau bod polisi economaidd sy'n seiliedig yn unig ar y gyfradd gyfnewid rad yn un annoeth iawn. Ychydig wythnosau yn ôl, fel y dywedodd David Rees, yr Aelod dros Aberafan, eisoes, cyfarfu ef a minnau â phrif weithredwr Tata Steel yn y DU, Mr Bimlendra Jha, yma yn y Cynulliad. Roedd yn amlwg o'i sgwrs, pe bai'n gallu rhoi pecyn at ei gilydd i ddwyn perswâd ar fwrdd Tata yn India i gadw perchnogaeth ar weithfeydd y DU, byddai'n gwneud ei orau, ond ei fod yn poeni am rwymedigaethau'r gronfa bensiwn ac yn poeni ynglŷn â'r DU yn gadael yr UE. Yn wir, mae si ar led fod pecyn achub yn yr arfaeth, ond iddo gael ei dynnu'n ôl y bore ar ôl y bleidlais. Mae bellach yn fwy anodd sicrhau buddsoddiad, felly ni allwn wybod pa un a yw'r cynigwyr eraill yn gallu bwrw ymlaen. Mae dyfodol yr holl weithfeydd yng Nghymru a phensiynau gweithwyr dan amheuaeth. Naw wfft i'r gobaith gwell o oroesi o fod y tu allan i'r UE. Gwyddom fod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi rhoi arian ar y bwrdd, a dywedodd Mr Jha wrthym yn glir fod Tata wedi croesawu hwnnw'n gynnes, yn wahanol i'r diffyg gwybodaeth gan Lywodraeth y DU, sydd eto i wireddu eu haddewidion o gymorth. Ond yn awr mae angen i'r rhai a oedd am adael yr UE gyflawni, a byddai'n dda pe bai UKIP yn rhoi'r gorau i drin ofnau pobl fel pethau i chwarae gwleidyddiaeth â hwy.
English: Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. Can I thank Members for their contributions today? I do know that everyone will be concerned about the impact that the referendum has had on the UK's steel industry, and there is no doubt that the referendum result has created considerable uncertainty, but also a deep sense of anxiety. I endorse the contribution made by Lee Waters, who I think captured the degree of anxiety that steelworkers and their families now face. I'm not at all convinced by UKIP's strategy that killing the national currency is the best way to grow an economy. I don't recall the Member who currently sits here today, but was in another place for many years, celebrating the devaluation of the pound back in the 1990s.
Welsh: Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. A gaf fi ddiolch i'r Aelodau am eu cyfraniadau heddiw? Rwy'n gwybod y bydd pawb yn pryderu am yr effaith y mae'r refferendwm wedi ei chael ar y diwydiant dur yn y DU, ac nid oes amheuaeth fod canlyniad y refferendwm wedi creu cryn ansicrwydd ac ymdeimlad dwfn o bryder hefyd. Ategaf gyfraniad Lee Waters, a ddisgrifiodd faint y pryder y mae gweithwyr dur a'u teuluoedd bellach yn ei wynebu. Nid wyf wedi fy argyhoeddi o gwbl gan strategaeth UKIP mai lladd arian cyfredol cenedlaethol yw'r ffordd orau i dyfu economi. Nid wyf yn cofio'r Aelod sy'n eistedd yma heddiw ar hyn o bryd, ond a oedd mewn man arall am nifer o flynyddoedd, yn dathlu'r gostyngiad yng ngwerth y bunt yn ôl yn y 1990au.
English: Yes, of course I will.
Welsh: Gwnaf, wrth gwrs y gwnaf.
English: On the contrary, I think it was the most extraordinary moment, which I've always called 'White Wednesday' rather than 'Black Wednesday'. However, unlike then, on the latest data, we have a current account deficit of 7 per cent of gross domestic product. His boss has gone on about how the high pound has handicapped steel production. Surely, in order to become more competitive, we need a lower currency.
Welsh: I'r gwrthwyneb, rwy'n meddwl ei bod yn adeg ryfeddol tu hwnt, ac rwyf bob amser wedi ei alw'n 'Ddydd Mercher Gwyn' yn hytrach na 'Dydd Mercher Du'. Fodd bynnag, yn wahanol i'r adeg honno, ar y data diweddaraf, mae gennym ddiffyg cyfrif cyfredol o 7 y cant o gynnyrch domestig gros. Mae ei bennaeth wedi sôn llawer am y modd y mae'r bunt uchel wedi bod yn anfantais i gynhyrchiant dur. Yn sicr, er mwyn dod yn fwy cystadleuol, mae arnom angen arian cyfredol is.
English: Thank you very much. I call on David Rowlands to reply to the debate. David Rowlands.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Galwaf ar David Rowlands i ymateb i'r ddadl. David Rowlands.