English: Thank you for the motion in front of us today to the Member for Aberconwy. I see value in considering how we could draw together the different elements with regard to planning related to the marine environment, even though, like the Member for Ogmore, I'm not entirely sure that we need to take that further step for legislation. I do think that we need to consider that and see how we can press further on this, as it is important. There are elements of the motion in front of us that I believe I would have put in a slightly different way. It talks about sea birds and wind farms and so on, but perhaps what we need to do is to set it out more widely than that. There is more to sea life than birds, and there is more to energy plans than wind farms offshore. But, despite that, there are important principles here. What we need, of course, is to strike the correct balance between use and exploiting our marine resources and having a sufficiently robust level of conservation too. The Morlais scheme, off the coast of my constituency, is a very good example of what we're trying to achieve. It's an innovative scheme, to develop tidal energy technologies, with the aim of facilitating experimentation in that area through facilitating the consent process for individual developers, and it's very clear at the same time in terms of its conservation duties, and does that, of course, as a social enterprise, which is very important. But it has been a far longer process than it should have been. And if we can have legislation that assists in that regard, then do let us look at that. I know that the Government, the Minister and the Deputy Minister, are supportive of that scheme - and I'm grateful for that - but we need to make it clear that the processes of Natural Resources Wales, for example, work constructively and effectively with schemes such as Morlais, in order to achieve them in a way, yes, that caters for our natural environment. May I refer to one clause in this motion - that we need to be very aware of the cumulative effect of schemes? That concerns me particularly with regard to solar developments on Anglesey - offshore and on land. And I have a direct question to the Minister: does the Minister agree that planning decisions with regard to the Welsh environment should look at the cumulative impact of the large numbers of solar applications on Môn, before we reach the point, inevitably, where there will be that negative cumulative impact? The principle, as I say, is the same, with regard to on-land or offshore developments. To conclude, I'm surprised that the Member for Aberconwy continues to oppose the devolution of the Crown Estate. Wouldn't that encourage better use and more innovative use of the seas around us, and would encourage accountability? But to summarise, we need a vision, we need a plan, we need a clear action plan. And if a new legislative framework would help in that regard, then do let us bear that in mind.
Welsh: Diolch am y cynnig sydd o'n blaenau ni heddiw yma i'r Aelod dros Aberconwy. Dwi yn gweld gwerth ystyried sut y gellid tynnu ynghyd y gwahanol elfennau sy'n ymwneud â chynllunio mewn perthynas â'r môr mewn fframwaith deddfwriaethol newydd, er fy mod i, fel Aelod Ogwr, ddim yn hollol eglur bod angen gwneud hynny. Mae ystyried hynny a gwthio'r ffiniau ynghylch beth sy'n bosibl, dwi'n meddwl, yn rhywbeth pwysig. Mae yna elfennau o'r cynnig sydd o'n blaenau ni dwi'n meddwl y buaswn i wedi'u cyflwyno mewn ffordd wahanol. Mae o'n sôn am adar y môr a ffermydd gwynt, lle mae beth sydd angen ydy ei osod o, o bosib, mewn ffordd dipyn ehangach na hynny. Mae yna fwy i fywyd môr nag adar. Mae yna fwy i gynlluniau ynni na ffermydd gwynt ac yn y blaen. Ond, er hynny, mae yna egwyddorion pwysig yma. Beth sydd angen, wrth gwrs, ydy cael y cydbwysedd iawn rhwng defnyddio a manteisio ar ein hadnoddau morol ni a chael lefel ddigon cadarn o warchodaeth iddyn nhw hefyd. Mae cynllun Morlais, oddi ar arfordir fy etholaeth i, yn enghraifft dda iawn, dwi'n meddwl, o beth dŷn ni'n trio ei gyflawni - cynllun arloesol i ddatblygu technolegau ynni llif llanw, cynllun sydd â'r diben o hwyluso arbrofi yn y maes hwnnw drwy hwyluso'r broses ganiatáu i ddatblygwyr unigol, ac yn glir iawn ar yr un pryd ynglŷn â'i ddyletswyddau o ran gwarchodaeth, ac yn gwneud hynny hefyd, wrth gwrs, fel menter gymdeithasol, sy'n bwysig iawn. Ond mae hi wedi bod yn broses llawer hirach nag y dylai hi fod. Ac os gallwn ni gael deddfwriaeth sy'n helpu yn hynny o beth, wel, gadewch inni edrych ar hynny. Dwi'n gwybod bod y Llywodraeth, y Gweinidog a'i Dirprwy, yn gefnogol i'r cynllun hwnnw - dwi'n ddiolchgar iawn am hynny - ond mae angen gwneud yn gwbl glir bod prosesau Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru, er enghraifft, yn gweithio'n adeiladol ac yn effeithiol efo cynlluniau fel cynllun Morlais, er mwyn gallu eu gwireddu nhw mewn ffordd, ie, sydd yn gydnaws â'n hamgylchedd naturiol ni. Gaf i roi sylw i un cymal penodol yn y cynnig yma - yn cyfeirio at yr angen i fod yn ymwybodol iawn o effaith gronnol datblygiadau? Mae hynny'n gonsérn gwirioneddol i fi yng nghyd-destun datblygiadau solar yn Ynys Môn - yr egwyddor yr un fath, dwi'n meddwl, ar y tir ac yn y môr. A chwestiwn yn y fan hyn yn uniongyrchol gen i i'r Gweinidog: ydy'r Gweinidog yn cytuno y dylai penderfyniadau cynllunio ac amgylchedd Cymru rŵan edrych ar effaith gronnol y nifer uchel o geisiadau ynni solar yn Ynys Môn cyn i ni jest gyrraedd at y pwynt, yn annatod, lle y bydd yna effaith gronnol negyddol? Fel dwi'n ei ddweud, yr un fyddai'r egwyddor, pa un ai ar ddatblygiadau tir neu fôr. Ond i gloi, dwi'n synnu bod yr Aelod dros Aberconwy yn parhau i wrthwynebu datganoli Ystad y Goron. Onid ydy hi'n amlwg y byddai hynny'n annog defnydd gwell a mwy arloesol o'r môr o'n cwmpas ni ac yn annog atebolrwydd? Ond i grynhoi, mae angen gweledigaeth, mae eisiau cynllun, mae eisiau rhaglen weithredu glir. Ac os ydy rhoi fframwaith deddfwriaethol newydd yn helpu yn hynny o beth, wel, gadewch inni edrych ar hynny.