English: Thanks to the Minister for bringing today's debate, and I think there have been very interesting contributions from everyone so far. I agree with the Minister that we do need a rehabilitative system as well as a punitive system, and I look forward to reading his blueprint for female and youth offenders. Hopefully that will take the debate forward, and we can look at things in a little bit more detail. I'm not convinced, though, that we can't address the problems in the criminal justice system on a UK-wide basis. Mark Isherwood did raise the issue that there are similar problems in the Scottish prison service where the issue is devolved, so I think we do need to bear that in mind. Where I do disagree with the Conservatives, in terms of what they are doing on a UK-wide basis, is over the privatisation of the prison service. There's no real evidence that we've seen that supports the view that private prisons are run any better than those run by the prison service. In fact, the evidence tends to suggest the opposite. So, in UKIP, we certainly aren't in favour of any system of moving towards more private prisons. The points that several people have made I would tend to agree with: many people in prison are not violent and do not pose any physical menace to society at large, so we can agree that efforts should be made to rehabilitate those offenders who can be rehabilitated, as the cost to society as a whole may well be reduced if there is some form of relatively early intervention in the lives of these people. In terms of female prisoners, we should consider the need for rehabilitation of them, of course, and it may well be the case that many of them do not need to be imprisoned in the first place. But, while we agree that we need to look at that, certainly, if there is a need to have a women's prison in Wales because of the difficulties of female prisoners being only able to be imprisoned in England, then we do have to look at possibly building that prison in Wales, and of course we're not averse to the idea of building more prisons if that is necessary for the safety of the community. So, those are the broad points that I would like to make today, and thank you. Diolch yn fawr.
Welsh: Diolch i'r Gweinidog am gyflwyno'r ddadl heddiw, ac rwy'n credu y bu cyfraniadau diddorol gan bawb hyd yma. Rwy'n cytuno â'r Gweinidog bod angen system adsefydlu yn ogystal â system gosbol, ac edrychaf ymlaen at ddarllen ei lasbrint ar gyfer troseddwyr benywaidd ac ifanc. Gobeithio y bydd hynny'n symud y ddadl yn ei blaen, ac y gallwn edrych ar bethau ychydig yn fanylach. Nid wyf yn argyhoeddedig, fodd bynnag, na allwn ddatrys y problemau yn y system cyfiawnder troseddol ar sail y DU gyfan. Fe wnaeth Mark Isherwood godi'r mater bod problemau tebyg i'w cael yng ngwasanaeth carchardai'r Alban lle mae'r mater wedi'i ddatganoli, felly rwy'n credu bod angen inni gadw hynny mewn cof. Y rheswm yr wyf yn anghytuno gyda'r Ceidwadwyr, o ran beth y maen nhw'n ei wneud ar sail y DU gyfan, yw'r mater o breifateiddio gwasanaeth carchardai. Nid oes unrhyw dystiolaeth go iawn yr ydym wedi'i gweld sy'n cefnogi'r farn bod carchardai preifat yn cael eu rhedeg yn well na'r rhai sy'n cael eu rhedeg gan y gwasanaeth carchardai. Yn wir, mae'r dystiolaeth yn tueddu i awgrymu'r gwrthwyneb. Felly, yn UKIP, yn sicr nid ydym o blaid unrhyw system sy'n symud tuag at fwy o garchardai preifat. Byddwn yn tueddu i gytuno â'r pwyntiau a wnaeth nifer o bobl: ceir llawer o bobl yn y carchar nad ydyn nhw'n dreisgar ac nad ydyn nhw'n peri unrhyw fygythiad corfforol i gymdeithas yn gyffredinol, felly gallwn gytuno y dylid gwneud ymdrechion i adsefydlu'r troseddwyr hynny y gellir eu hadsefydlu, oherwydd gellid gostwng y gost i gymdeithas yn gyffredinol drwy ryw fath o ymyrraeth gymharol gynnar ym mywydau'r bobl hyn. O ran carcharorion benywaidd, dylem ystyried yr angen i'w hadsefydlu, wrth gwrs, ac mae'n ddigon posibl yn wir nad oes angen carcharu llawer ohonynt yn y lle cyntaf. Ond, er ein bod yn cytuno bod angen inni edrych ar hynny, yn sicr, os oes angen cael carchar i fenywod yng Nghymru oherwydd yr anawsterau a geir yn sgil carcharorion benywaidd yn gorfod cael eu carcharu yn Lloegr, yna rhaid inni edrych ar adeiladu'r carchar hwnnw yng Nghymru o bosibl, ac wrth gwrs nid ydym yn gwrthwynebu'r syniad o adeiladu rhagor o garchardai os yw hynny'n angenrheidiol ar gyfer diogelwch y gymuned. Felly, dyna'r pwyntiau eang yr hoffwn eu gwneud heddiw, a diolch i chi. Diolch yn fawr.