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English: Is it possible for the committee to receive the assessment for the next five years, the breakdown on that? Because it's one thing to have a target and a scheme, you need to see where the funding is going to support the delivering of that objective. If we see that you're doing it on a five-year term, is it appropriate for the committee to ask for that five-year assessment?
Welsh: A ydy'n bosibl i'r pwyllgor gael yr asesiad ar gyfer y pum mlynedd nesaf, y toriad ynglŷn â hynny? Achos un peth ydy cael cynllun a thargedau, ond mae angen gweld lle mae'r cyllid yn mynd i gefnogi cyrraedd y targedau yna. Os ydyn ni'n gweld eich bod chi'n ei wneud o fesul pum mlynedd, a ydy'n briodol i'r pwyllgor ofyn am yr asesiad pum mlynedd?
English: What's difficult with that is, because so much of this is related to education, we would have to look at education funding too. But, perhaps it would be an idea for us to look across Government. It is important that we deal with this in a cross-governmental way, because it clearly is one of the challenges for future generations and so on and so forth. So, everyone does have to collaborate towards this aim. I would see part of my role as Minister now being securing that co-ordination across Government.
Welsh: Beth sy'n anodd gyda hynny yw, achos bod cymaint o hwn ynghlwm wrth addysg, byddai'n rhaid i ni edrych ar y cyllid addysg hefyd. Felly, efallai y byddai'n syniad i ni edrych ar draws y Llywodraeth. Mae'n bwysig ein bod ni'n delio gyda hwn mewn ffordd draws-lywodraethol, achos mae'n amlwg yn un o'r heriau hefyd ar gyfer future generations ac ati. Felly, mae'n rhaid i bob un gydweithredu tuag at y nod yma a chydlynu. Fe fyddwn i'n gweld rhan o'm rôl i nawr fel Gweinidog yw sicrhau'r cydlyniant yna.
English: Thank you. I'll turn to Lee now to ask detailed questions.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Fe wnaf i droi at Lee rŵan i ofyn cwestiynau mewn manylder.
English: Before we move away from this area, I'd like to ask about the three additional posts to support the promotion functions of the Welsh Government. What exactly are those three posts, and who are they accountable to, or what expenditure line?
Welsh: Cyn i ni symud o'r maes yma, byddwn i'n licio gofyn ynglŷn â'r dair swydd ychwanegol i gefnogi swyddogaethau hyrwyddo Llywodraeth Cymru. Beth yn union ydy'r dair swydd yna, ac i bwy mae nhw'n atebol, neu ba linell gwariant?
English: Well, there's an additional £2 million to promote the language, and this is part of the additional £5 million. There are two direct posts in marketing - that's their area of expertise. That's what we've done. We've brought marketing expertise into the Welsh Government, and, in addition to that, we have appointed someone who is a specialist in language planning.
Welsh: Wel, mae £2 filiwn ychwanegol i hybu'r iaith, ac mae hwnnw yn rhan o'r £5 miliwn ychwanegol. Mae dwy swydd uniongyrchol ar gyfer arbenigedd marchnata, a dyna beth sydd wedi digwydd. Rŷm ni wedi dod ag arbenigedd marchnata i mewn i Lywodraeth Cymru, ac, yn ogystal â hynny, rŷm ni wedi penodi rhywun sydd yn arbenigo mewn cynlluniau ieithyddol.
English: Therefore, that £2 million is being used in part for those three posts. And this is promotion and marketing on a general level, nothing to do with the standards - it's promotional and marketing work in general, about the advantages, for example, of a bilingual education.
Welsh: Felly, mae'r £2 filiwn yna yn cael ei ddefnyddio yn rhannol ar gyfer y dair swydd yma - marchnata. Ac mae hwn yn farchnata a hybu cyffredinol, ddim yn ymwneud â'r safonau - mae o'n waith hyrwyddo marchnata cyffredinol ynglŷn â manteision addysg ddwyieithog, er enghraifft.
English: Yes. There is an element of education, so there's the Cymraeg i Blant programme, and we're also doing further research on the Cymraeg brand, and the various messages for the different sectors and the different domains within the sector, for example, parents. In the parental sector, there are different messages to be conveyed, depending where that particular parent is on their own language journey. So, yes, it's a general budget, it's general funding for promoting the work in education particularly, and language usage too.
Welsh: Ydy. Mae yna elfen o addysg, felly mae'r rhaglen Cymraeg i Blant a'i thwf hi. Hefyd, rydym ni wedi gwneud gwaith ymchwil pellach ar y brand Cymraeg, a'r negeseuon gwahanol i'r sectorau a'r peuoedd gwahanol o fewn y sector, er enghraifft, rhieni. Ac ymhellach o fewn y sector rhieni, mae yna negeseuon gwahanol yn dibynnu lle mae'r rhiant hwnnw ar ei daith iaith ei hun. Felly, ie, mae o'n gyllid cyffredinol ar gyfer hybu ac hyrwyddo'r gwaith addysg yn benodol, ac, wrth gwrs, y defnydd o iaith.
English: And just one further question: the review of the Welsh in education strategic plans has been completed and the plans have gone back to be strengthened. What are the financial implications of that?
Welsh: Jest un cwestiwn arall: mae'r adolygiad o'r cynlluniau strategol Cymraeg mewn addysg wedi cael ei gwblhau, ac mae'r cynlluniau wedi mynd yn ôl ac yn cael eu cryfhau. Beth ydy goblygiadau ariannol hynny?
English: Well, we are still looking at those. We haven't had an opportunity to go into them in detail as of yet, but what's important is that they concord with twenty-first century schools. That's a crucial part of this. So, until we get a better idea of how they can run parallel with twenty-first century schools, it will be difficult to see how we can do that planning. So, we now need to have a discussion between local authorities, and with the local authorities, to ensure that everything dovetails.
Welsh: Wel, rŷm ni'n dal yn edrych ar y rheini, so nid ydym ni wedi cael cyfle i fynd mewn iddyn nhw mewn manylder eto. Ond beth sy'n bwysig yw eu bod nhw'n cyd-fynd â twenty-first century schools. Mae hwnnw'n rhan hanfodol. Felly, tan ein bod ni'n cael gwell syniad o sut mae nhw'n mynd i gydweithredu gyda twenty-first century schools, bydd e'n anodd i weld sut rydym ni'n gallu gwneud y cynllunio yna. Felly, mae angen nawr i ni gael trafodaeth rhwng cynghorau lleol, a sicrhau eu bod nhw i gyd yn plethu i fewn gyda'i gilydd.
English: But there will be no additional money from the Government to councils in order for them to strengthen. It's expected that the councils strengthen their plans, in line with Aled Roberts's recommendations.
Welsh: Ond fydd dim arian ychwanegol gan y Llywodraeth i gynghorau er mwyn iddyn nhw fedru cryfhau. Mae disgwyl i'r cynghorau ganfod yr arian i gryfhau cynlluniau yn unol ag argymhellion Aled Roberts.
English: Yes. There is funding within the EIG, and then the funding available to the consortia to improve workforce training. So, as the Minister has said, there is funding available in the wider education budget, because Welsh-medium and bilingual education is an integral part of that budget. As the Minister has stated, with the band B programme for twenty-first century schools, there has been some delay in terms of our discussions with councils, because until they know where they are in terms of their band B provision - because that is crucially important in terms of any new schools, or any change in school category, or any development in terms of the seedling schools in progressing - . So, that is the important funding in terms of progressing the WESPs.
Welsh: Oes. Mae yna arian o fewn yr EIG, ac wedyn yr arian mae'r consortia yn ei gael i wella ac hyfforddi'r gweithle. Felly, fel y mae'r Gweinidog wedi'i ddweud, mae yna arian ar gael yng nghyllid ehangach yr adran addysg, wrth gwrs, achos mae addysg Gymraeg a dwyieithog yn rhan anorfod o'r gyllideb honno. Fel y mae'r Gweinidog wedi'i ddweud, o ran rhaglen band B ysgolion yr unfed ganrif ar hugain, mae yna ychydig o oedi wedi digwydd yn ein trafodaethau ni efo'r cynghorau, achos nes eu bod nhw'n gwybod lle mae nhw arni ar ei band B - achos mae hwnnw'n holl, holl allweddol o ran unrhyw ysgolion newydd, neu newid gategori ysgol o bosib, neu dyfu o ran y seedling schools wrth fynd ymlaen - . Felly, hwnnw ydy'r arian mawr pwysig o ran symud y WESPs yn eu blaenau.
English: Are we therefore likely to see a change in prioritisation within the budget of twenty-first century schools to respond to the increase that's needed to achieve the aims of the 2050 strategy?
Welsh: A ydym ni felly'n debygol o weld newid blaenoriaeth o fewn y gyllideb twenty-first century schools i ateb y cynnydd sydd ei angen er mwyn cyrraedd y nodau yn strategaeth 2050?
English: Well, ideally, we have to see both things dovetailing effectively. So, our strategy is clear, in terms of the direction of travel that we expect of the local authorities, and we would hope that that would then feed into the councils' priorities.
Welsh: Wel, yn ddelfrydol, mae'n rhaid i ni weld y ddau beth yn plethu gyda'i gilydd. Felly, mae'n strategaeth ni yn glir, o ran y cyfeiriad rŷm ni'n awyddus i'r cynghorau fynd iddo, ac, felly, byddwn ni'n gobeithio byddai hwnnw jest yn bwydo i fewn i flaenoriaethau'r cynghorau.
English: This committee has had some discussions with the commissioner and we've scrutinised the budget of the language commissioner specifically. Do you have any more questions in this area?
Welsh: Mae'r pwyllgor yma wedi cael trafodaethau efo'r comisiynydd, ac wedi craffu cyllideb y comisiynydd iaith yn benodol. A oes gennych chi fwy o gwestiynau ar y maes yma?
English: I would like to ask, in terms of the Welsh Language Commissioner and the Welsh Language Bill: has there been a financial assessment of the implications of moving towards creating new legislation?
Welsh: Buaswn i'n hoffi gofyn, o ran Comisiynydd y Gymraeg a Bil y Gymraeg: a oes yna asesiad cyllidol wedi'i wneud ynglŷn â goblygiadau symud i greu deddfwriaeth newydd?
English: I think that it all depends on what the structure will look like, but I do think that's it's likely, whatever happens in future, there will be some sort of agency external of Government. Whether that's a commissioner or a different agency, the idea is that the promotion of the language becomes something that is outwith Government, in a way. So, that agency would have the responsibility for driving that strategy in terms of language promotion. So, that's my thinking at the moment. Now, clearly, I need more time to read the Bill and to consider the responses to the consultation.
Welsh: Rydw i'n meddwl ei fod i gyd yn dibynnu ar beth mae'r strwythur yn mynd i edrych fel, ond rydw i yn meddwl mae'n debygol, beth bynnag fydd yn digwydd yn y dyfodol, bydd yna rhyw fath o asiantaeth allanol o'r Llywodraeth. Nawr, p'un ai os mae honno'n gomisiynydd neu'n asiantaeth wahanol, y syniad yw bod hybu'r iaith yn dod yn rhywbeth sydd y tu fas i'r Llywodraeth, mewn ffordd. So, mae'r asiantaeth yna'n cael y cyfrifoldeb am wthio'r strategaeth yna o ran hybu'r iaith. So, dyna'n meddylfryd i ar hyn o bryd. Yn amlwg, mae eisiau i mi gael mwy o amser jest i ddarllen drwy'r Bil ac ystyried yr ymatebion i'r ymatebion sydd i ddod.
English: And, clearly, a financial assessment will be part of that assessment as well.
Welsh: Ac, yn amlwg, bydd asesiad cyllidol yn rhan o'r asesiad yna hefyd.
English: Well, if you look at the budget now in terms of promotion activity, then I think if you took into account the funding available to the commissioner for that and what's within Government, we're looking at around £7 million. So, that, broadly speaking, is the figure, I would have thought.
Welsh: Wel, os rŷch chi'n edrych ar y gyllideb nawr o ran hybu a hyrwyddo, buaswn i'n meddwl os buasech chi'n cymryd yr arian sydd gyda'r comisiynydd ar gyfer hynny ac sydd y tu fewn i'r Llywodraeth, rŷm ni'n edrych ar tua £7 miliwn. Felly, dyna, yn fras, yw'r ffigwr, buaswn i'n meddwl.
English: But what about the process itself of creating a new Bill? That costs money in a time where, perhaps, it's not necessary to have that structural change. Perhaps it would be better to concentrate on keeping the structure as it is at the moment and using any money that would be tied in with those changes in order to promote the 2050 strategy.
Welsh: A beth am y broses ei hun o greu Bil newydd? Mae hynny'n costio arian mewn cyfnod lle, efallai, nad ydy hi'n angenrheidiol i wneud y newid strwythurol. Oni fyddai'n well canolbwyntio ar gadw'r strwythur fel y mae o ar hyn o bryd a defnyddio unrhyw arian fyddai'n cael ei glymu i mewn efo'r newidiadau yna er mwyn hyrwyddo strategaeth 2050?
English: May I say at this point what I've said to all departments? We're very good at drawing up strategies within the Welsh Government, but what's important for me is that we don't lose sight of what's happening now, and we must focus on this generation going through the system now. What I don't want to see happening is that by focusing so much on ensuing years that we lose sight of what is immediately in front of us, and that is something I'm always concerned about with new strategies - that that's going to be a panacea for all things. But we must keep a close eye on what's happening here and now, so for me, that's very important.
Welsh: A gaf i ddweud yn fan hyn yr un peth rydw i wedi'i ddweud wrth bob adran? Rydym ni'n dda iawn yn gwneud strategaethau yn Llywodraeth Cymru, ond beth sy'n bwysig i fi yw nad ydym ni'n colli llygad ar beth sy'n digwydd nawr, ac mae'n rhaid i ni ganolbwyntio ar y genhedlaeth yma sydd yn mynd trwy'r system nawr. Beth nad ydw i eisiau ei weld yw ein bod ni, trwy ganolbwyntio cymaint ar beth sy'n mynd i ddod, yn colli golwg ar beth sydd o'n blaenau ni. Felly, mae hwn yn rhywbeth rydw i yn meddwl - . Rydw i wastad yn poeni am hynny, gyda strategaethau newydd - mai'r rheini sy'n mynd i fod yn ateb i bopeth. Mae'n rhaid i ni gadw llygad ar beth sy'n digwydd nawr, felly mae hynny, i fi, yn eithaf pwysig.
English: Thank you, and that brings today's session to an end. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Diolch, a dyna ddod â'r sesiwn yma i ben. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi.
English: We'll go on to item 6. There are papers to note, namely 'Non-public Funding of the Arts: Additional Evidence', and 'The Independent Review of Support for Publishing and Literature in Wales: Additional Evidence'. Are you content to note the papers? Does anybody have any comments on any of those papers? No. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Fe awn ni ymlaen i eitem 6. Mae yna bapurau i'w nodi, sef 'Cyllid heblaw cyllid cyhoeddus ar gyfer y celfyddydau: Tystiolaeth Ychwanegol', ac 'Yr Adolygiad Annibynnol o Gymorth ar gyfer Cyhoeddi a Llenyddiaeth yng Nghymru: Tystiolaeth Ychwanegol'. A ydych chi'n hapus i nodi'r papurau? A oes unrhyw un efo unrhyw sylwadau ar unrhyw un o'r papurau? Na. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
English: Therefore, we'll now go into private session. But before that, I move the motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. Okay? Thank you.
Welsh: Felly, fe awn ni i mewn i sesiwn breifat. Cyn hynny, rhaid i mi gynnig o dan Rheol Sefydlog 17.42 i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod. Iawn? Diolch.
English: Thank you very much, Chair. In the same way as David Melding, may I also welcome you as the new Chair of this committee, following the great chairmanship of Huw Irranca-Davies? I also welcome the Minister to her new post. Congratulations to her as well. Moving on to the issue of directions, section 5 inserts a new section 13A into the 1996 Act. Also, section 14 replaces the wording of section 9 of the 1996 Act. However, there isn't a way of directing the way that these changes happen - either coming before the Assembly or Ministers. Therefore, do you think it would be appropriate for the Assembly procedure to be applied to these directions due to the importance of the content of the directions to RSLs?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Gadeirydd. Yn yr un modd â fy nghyfaill David Melding, a allaf fi hefyd eich croesawu chi i fod yn Gadeirydd newydd y pwyllgor yma, yn dilyn cadeiryddiaeth fendigedig Huw Irranca-Davies? Ac yn yr un modd hefyd, rwy'n croesawu'r Gweinidog i'w swydd newydd. Llongyfarchiadau iddi hi hefyd. Symudaf ymlaen at y mater o gyfarwyddiadau. Mae adran 5 yn rhoi adran newydd 13A i mewn i Ddeddf 1996. Hefyd, mae adran 14 yn newid y geiriad yn hen adran 9 o Ddeddf 1996. Ond, nid oes yna ffordd o gyfarwyddo sut y mae'r fath newidiadau'n digwydd - un ai i ddod o flaen y Cynulliad neu i Weinidogion. Felly, a ydych chi'n credu y byddai'n briodol cymhwyso gweithdrefn y Cynulliad i'r cyfarwyddiadau yma oherwydd pwysigrwydd eu cynnwys i landlordiaid cymdeithasol cofrestredig?
English: Thank you for that. Moving on to the use of primary legislation, why has the Welsh Government chosen to address the issue of local government control by using primary legislation rather than regulations?
Welsh: Diolch am hynny. Gan symud ymlaen at y defnydd o ddeddfwriaeth gynradd, pam mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi dewis defnyddio deddfwriaeth sylfaenol yn hytrach na rheoliadau i ymdrin â mater rheolaeth llywodraeth leol?
English: Moving on, therefore, to constitutional matters. We've been discussing in this committee - and, of course, the Chair in his previous post has talked about this - the need to make legislation more open and easier to understand for the public, and to bring things together, and to consolidate matters. Of course, we're talking here about an opportunity, perhaps, to do that, in looking forward. So, why has the Welsh Government not taken this opportunity to draft consolidating legislation in this area?
Welsh: Symudaf ymlaen, felly, at faterion cyfansoddiadol. Rŷm ni wedi bod yn trafod yn y pwyllgor hwn - ac, wrth gwrs, mae'r Cadeirydd yn ei swydd o'r blaen wedi sôn hefyd am hyn - am yr angen inni wneud deddfwriaeth yn fwy agored ac yn haws i'r cyhoedd ei deall, ac i ddod â phethau at ei gilydd ac i gydgrynhoi, felly. Wrth gwrs, rŷm ni'n sôn yn fan hyn am gyfle efallai i wneud y fath y beth, o edrych ymlaen. So, pam nad yw Llywodraeth Cymru wedi manteisio ar y cyfle yma i ddrafftio deddfwriaeth gydgrynhoi yn y maes yma?
English: Right, we'll move on to the next section, which talks about the requirement on landlords to notify Ministers of any changes in their projects. So, may I ask whether the Minister is of the opinion that provision should be inserted on the face of the Bill to ensure compliance with the Welsh Ministers' requirements regarding the timing, delivery, form and content of notifications, to make it clear that any failure to comply with the directions would constitute a failure to comply with an enactment?
Welsh: Reit, symudwn ni ymlaen i'r adran nesaf sydd yn sôn am y gofyniadau ar landlordiaid i ddweud wrth Weinidogion am unrhyw newidiadau yn eu prosiectau. Felly, a gaf i ofyn: a ydy'r Gweinidog o'r farn y dylid rhoi darpariaeth ar wyneb y Bil i sicrhau y cydymffurfir â gofynion Gweinidogion Cymru o ran amseru, cyflawni, ffurf a chynnwys hysbysiadau, gan ei gwneud yn glir y byddai methu â chydymffurfio â'r cyfarwyddiadau yn golygu methu â chydymffurfio â'r deddfiad?
English: Right, and you are certain enough and sure that people are going to understand that, even though it's not on the face of the Bill.
Welsh: Reit, ac rydych yn ddigon cadarn a sicr bod pobl yn mynd i ddeall hynny, er nad yw e ar wyneb y Bil.
English: Okay. Moving on to the last question that I have with regard to the appointment of officers or a manager by Government Ministers, would it not be clearer to state that any appointments made under section 6 or 8 of the Bill will end when the requirement is complied with or the failure has been remedied to the satisfaction of the Welsh Ministers? How would you respond to that?
Welsh: Ocê. Symud ymlaen i'r cwestiwn olaf sydd gennyf i yn nhermau apwyntiad o swyddogion neu o reolwr gan Weinidogion y Llywodraeth - onid cliriach fyddai nodi y bydd unrhyw benodiadau a wneir o dan adrannau 6 neu 8 o'r Bil yn dod i ben pan fo Gweinidogion Cymru yn fodlon y cydymffurfiwyd â'r gofyniad neu y gwnaed yn iawn am y methiant? Sut ydych chi'n ymateb i hynny?
English: May I just say once again that we've had this issue before about things not being provided bilingually because they go to Westminster as well as this place? We've accepted that, naturally, but it's still happening. Of course, this is a bilingual Assembly. I can understand the argument on both sides, but things that come before us here should be bilingual, so I don't know whether we can persuade the Government here to persuade those in Westminster too, that if they want to legislate for Wales, that those laws should be bilingual.
Welsh: A allaf jest adrodd eto, achos rydym wedi cael yr issue yma o'r blaen, o bethau nad ydynt yn ddwyieithog achos maen nhw'n mynd i San Steffan yn ogystal â fan hyn? Rydym wedi derbyn hynny, yn naturiol, ond mae e'n dal i ddigwydd. Wrth gwrs, mae fan hyn yn Gynulliad sydd yn ddwyieithog. Rwyf yn gallu deall y ddadl y ddwy ffordd, ond mae pethau sy'n dod i fan hyn i fod yn ddwyieithog, so nid wyf yn gwybod os ydym yn gallu trio dwyn unrhyw fath o berswâd ar y Llywodraeth lawr fan hyn i geisio rhagor o berswâd i fyny yn San Steffan. Os ydynt yn mynnu deddfu dros Gymru, rhaid i'r deddfau hynny fod yn ddwyieithog.
English: I'd like to turn briefly to a new subject, namely the ugly word for a very important idea - co-production, which is, broadly, the idea that people and communities and different stakeholders take part in the process of delivering policy and services. There is a reference in the auditor general's report to the opinion of the Welsh Government that moving towards the principle of co-production explains some of the lack of progress that there has been in terms of tackling some of the issues that were identified in previous reports. Do you accept the Welsh Government's view, namely that moving towards co-production, as some kind of quid pro quo, can sometimes decelerate progress in a programme?
Welsh: Hoffwn i droi yn fyr at bwnc newydd, sef gair hyll am syniad arbennig o bwysig, sef cydgynhyrchiant, neu co-production yn Saesneg, sef, yn fras, y syniad bod pobl a chymunedau a gwahanol randdeiliaid yn cymryd rhan yn y broses o ddelifro polisi a gwasanaethau. Mae yna gyfeiriad yn adroddiad yr archwilydd at farn Llywodraeth Cymru fod symud tuag at egwyddor o gydgynhyrchu yn esbonio peth o'r diffyg cynnydd sydd wedi bod wrth fynd i'r afael â rhai o'r materion a oedd wedi cael eu hadnabod gan adroddiadau o'r blaen. A ydych chi'n derbyn y farn gan Lywodraeth Cymru, hynny yw bod symud tuag at gydgynhyrchiant, fel rhyw fath o quid pro quo, hefyd weithiau, wrth gwrs, yn gallu arafu cynnydd rhaglen?
English: But do you also think - ? I accept what you say, of course - including more people in the discussions, of course, naturally means decelerating the process of making decisions. But is there a responsibility on the Welsh Government to ensure that the procedures and structures are in place to ensure that that kind of inclusive discussion can happen, and as quickly as possible?
Welsh: Ond a ydych chi hefyd yn meddwl bod - ? Rwy'n derbyn beth rydych chi'n ei ddweud, wrth gwrs - wrth gynnwys mwy o bobl mewn trafodaethau, wrth gwrs, mae hynny wedyn, wrth reswm, yn golygu arafu'r broses o wneud penderfyniadau. Ond a oes cyfrifoldeb ar Lywodraeth Cymru hefyd i sicrhau bod y gweithdrefnau a'r strwythurau mewn lle ar gyfer sicrhau bod y math yna o drafodaeth fwy cynhwysol yn medru digwydd, ac yn medru digwydd mor gyflym ag y gellir ei wneud?