English: Well, it's interesting you mentioned part of that report. Of course, another part of the select committee's report that was issued in January 2017 concludes that investment in Welsh rail has been consistently mismanaged by the Welsh Government over the past decade. So, we can all be selective, can't we, on which parts of the report we want to read. With regard to the work - as I move on now - by Professor Mark Barry, the report takes a detailed look at the long-term strategic interventions that could be made on the rail network in Wales to improve connectivity and to ultimately deliver economic benefits. I certainly think that there's much in what he says that is to be welcomed and I think is sensible. But there are no costings, of course, in his report, and the report focuses more on presenting a vision for the future of rail infrastructure in Wales rather than a realistic pathway towards that vision. I accept that that clearly needs to be fleshed out in more detail. Of course, Deputy Presiding Officer, the fact is that the Welsh Government has many levers at its disposal, and I think the Minister started off by saying so as well. The reality is that, in many cases, the buck does stop here with the Welsh Government in relation to the state of trains in Wales. There are levers that the Welsh Government do have at its disposal in regard to passenger experience. The Welsh Government-run Transport for Wales took over the rail services in Wales, as we know, last year. We're all aware of the huge number of cancelled trains, whilst running services have become significantly overcrowded due to the rolling stock being removed from operation. The Welsh Government handover strategy, I think, does have to be questioned in this regard. What we did see last autumn was not the transformational improvements to services that the Welsh Government promised, and neither does it represent the additional capacity or the vision of future rail services in Wales that Professor Barry describes. Responsibility, I think, for the current fiasco we saw last autumn does lay squarely with the Welsh Government, and their attempt, I think, to shuffle the blame is unacceptable in this debate today.
Welsh: Wel, mae'n ddiddorol eich bod wedi crybwyll rhan o'r adroddiad hwnnw. Wrth gwrs, mae rhan arall o adroddiad y pwyllgor dethol a gyhoeddwyd ym mis Ionawr 2017 yn dod i'r casgliad bod buddsoddi mewn rheilffyrdd yng Nghymru wedi'i gamreoli'n gyson gan Lywodraeth Cymru dros y degawd diwethaf. Felly, fe allwn ni i gyd ddewis a dethol, oni allwn ni, pa rannau o'r adroddiad yr ydym ni eisiau eu darllen. O ran y gwaith - wrth imi symud ymlaen yn awr - gan yr Athro Mark Barry, mae'r adroddiad yn edrych yn fanwl ar ymyriadau strategol hirdymor y gellid eu gwneud ar y rhwydwaith rheilffyrdd yng Nghymru i wella cysylltedd a sicrhau manteision economaidd yn y pen draw. Rwy'n sicr yn credu bod llawer yn yr hyn a ddywed i'w groesawu ac rwy'n credu ei fod yn synhwyrol. Ond nid oes costau, wrth gwrs, yn ei adroddiad, ac mae'r adroddiad yn canolbwyntio mwy ar gyflwyno gweledigaeth ar gyfer dyfodol seilwaith rheilffyrdd yng Nghymru yn hytrach na ffordd realistig o gyflawni'r weledigaeth honno. Rwy'n derbyn bod eisiau rhoi mwy o gig ar yr asgwrn yn amlwg. Wrth gwrs, Dirprwy Lywydd, y ffaith yw y gall Llywodraeth Cymru wneud sawl peth, ac rwy'n credu i'r gweinidog ddechrau drwy ddweud hynny hefyd. Y gwir amdani yw, mewn llawer o achosion, yn y pen draw yma yn Llywodraeth Cymru y mae'r cyfrifoldeb o ran sefyllfa'r trenau yng Nghymru. Mae yna bethau y gall Llywodraeth Cymru ei wneud o ran profiad teithwyr. Trafnidiaeth Cymru, sy'n cael ei redeg gan Lywodraeth Cymru, sydd ers y llynedd yn gyfrifol am wasanaethau rheilffyrdd yng Nghymru, fel y gwyddom ni. Rydym ni i gyd yn ymwybodol o'r nifer enfawr o drenau a gafodd eu canslo, tra bo gwasanaethau sy'n dal i redeg yn orlawn erbyn hyn oherwydd peidio â defnyddio llawer o gerbydau. Rwy'n credu bod yn rhaid inni gwestiynu strategaeth drosglwyddo Llywodraeth Cymru o ran hyn. Yr hyn a welsom ni yr Hydref diwethaf oedd nid y gwelliannau trawsffurfiol i wasanaethau a addawodd Llywodraeth Cymru, ac nid yw ychwaith yn cynrychioli'r capasiti ychwanegol neu'r weledigaeth o wasanaethau rheilffyrdd y dyfodol yng Nghymru y mae'r Athro Barry yn eu disgrifio. Llywodraeth Cymru sydd heb os yn gyfrifol am y llanast presennol a welsom ni'r Hydref diwethaf ac mae ei hymgais i fwrw'r bai yn annerbyniol yn y ddadl hon heddiw.