English: Llywydd, can I thank Mark Reckless for his opening remarks? The relationship between Wales and the rest of the United Kingdom in the coronavirus crisis is one in which I believe that working alongside the other Governments is a strength, that, when we can do things together and send a single message out to the public, that makes that message simpler and therefore more readily heard and understood. But, where there are things that we need to do differently to meet Welsh circumstances, then of course we will do that as well. But I always go into the room with other UK Governments looking for common ground and trying to craft a way forward in which we can all sign up to it together. I agree with what Mr Reckless said about following European evidence, about looking at experience elsewhere. Other European countries are coming out of coronavirus ahead of us, are lifting restrictions before we are able to do so. We need to capture the learning that they will have about what the impact of that will be. On immunity, my understanding of this is that we don't have good enough evidence from anywhere in the world that having coronavirus gives you a level of immunity that means that you can confidently go and provide services to people who have the virus, knowing that you can't be reinfected, or that you can't be a source of difficulties to others. There is a huge amount of work going on in many countries to try and establish that evidence, but, today, you couldn't confidently say to somebody who'd been tested, who the test demonstrates that they've had the virus, that that now means that they can safely go and put themselves in places that otherwise would be a source of risk to them. The pattern for the future that we are anticipating in Wales depends a great deal on the rate of conformity with the current lockdown arrangements. If it was only 40 per cent, the virus could still be rising. If it's 60 per cent, then we can be pretty confident that the virus rate of spread in the community will be going down. If it's 75 per cent, we may well see a very real suppression of the virus that will last into the weeks ahead. So, the modelling depends upon the extent to which we can go on persuading people to abide by the restrictions. As you know, in Wales, we've had a fantastic response to that, but we need to make sure that that continues. On testing and on the data-sharing issue particularly, the Information Commissioner put out guidance very early on that said that his office would look sympathetically on measures that were being taken to make sure the data was properly shared, while making it clear that the law has not changed. Therefore, when organisations are sharing data - and remember the data belongs to the patient, not to the organisations; so, it's your data and my data, and the person being tested's data that is being shared - there is still an obligation on organisations to make sure that that is being done in a way that is careful and proportionate. While I don't want general data protection regulation and data-sharing issues to get in the way of doing the right thing, I do understand why people who will be held responsible for the way in which they have made those decisions on our data need to make sure that they are doing it in a way that would continue to stand up to scrutiny from the Information Commissioner and any court of law.
Welsh: Lywydd, a gaf fi ddiolch i Mark Reckless am ei sylwadau agoriadol? Mae'r berthynas rhwng Cymru a gweddill y Deyrnas Unedig mewn perthynas ag argyfwng y coronafeirws yn un lle credaf fod gweithio ochr yn ochr â'r Llywodraethau eraill yn gryfder, a phan allwn wneud pethau gyda'n gilydd a chyfleu un neges i'r cyhoedd, mae hynny'n gwneud y neges honno'n symlach ac felly mae'n cael ei chlywed a'i deall yn haws. Ond lle mae pethau y mae angen i ni eu gwneud yn wahanol i gyd-fynd ag amgylchiadau Cymru, yna wrth gwrs, byddwn yn gwneud hynny hefyd. Ond rwyf bob amser yn mynd i mewn i'r ystafell gyda Llywodraethau eraill y DU gan chwilio am dir cyffredin a cheisio creu ffordd ymlaen y gallwn oll ei dilyn gyda'n gilydd. Cytunaf â'r hyn a ddywedodd Mr Reckless ynglŷn â dilyn tystiolaeth Ewropeaidd, ynglŷn ag edrych ar brofiadau mewn mannau eraill. Mae gwledydd Ewropeaidd eraill yn dod allan o'r coronafeirws o'n blaenau ni, yn codi cyfyngiadau cyn y gallwn ni wneud hynny. Mae angen inni sicrhau ein bod yn dysgu ganddynt beth fydd effaith hynny. Ar imiwnedd, fy nealltwriaeth o hynny yw nad oes gennym dystiolaeth ddigon da o unrhyw le yn y byd fod cael y coronafeirws yn rhoi lefel o imiwnedd i chi sy'n golygu y gallwch fod yn ddigon hyderus i ddarparu gwasanaethau i bobl sydd â'r feirws, gan wybod na allwch gael eich ail-heintio, neu nad ydych yn mynd i beri anawsterau i eraill. Mae llawer iawn o waith yn mynd rhagddo mewn sawl gwlad i geisio sefydlu'r dystiolaeth honno, ond heddiw, ni allech ddweud yn hyderus wrth rywun sydd wedi cael eu profi, lle mae'r prawf yn dangos eu bod wedi cael y feirws, fod hynny bellach yn golygu ei bod yn ddiogel iddynt fynd i leoedd a fyddai fel arall yn peri risg iddynt. Mae'r patrwm rydym yn ei ragweld yng Nghymru ar gyfer y dyfodol yn dibynnu i raddau helaeth ar y gyfradd sy'n cydymffurfio â'r cyfyngiadau symud cyfredol. Pe bai hynny ond yn 40 y cant, gallai'r feirws fod yn cynyddu o hyd. Os yw'n 60 y cant, gallwn fod yn eithaf hyderus y bydd cyfradd lledaeniad y feirws yn y gymuned yn gostwng. Os yw'n 75 y cant, mae'n ddigon posibl y gwelwn y feirws yn cael ei atal, ac y bydd hynny'n para yn yr wythnosau i ddod. Felly, mae'r modelu'n dibynnu ar i ba raddau y gallwn barhau i berswadio pobl i gadw at y cyfyngiadau. Fel y gwyddoch, yng Nghymru, rydym wedi cael ymateb gwych i hynny, ond mae angen inni sicrhau ei fod yn parhau. Ar brofi a mater rhannu data yn arbennig, cyflwynodd y Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth ganllawiau yn gynnar iawn a ddywedai y byddai ei swyddfa'n dangos cydymdeimlad wrth ymdrin â mesurau a oedd yn cael eu cymryd i sicrhau bod y data'n cael ei rannu'n iawn, gan ddweud yn glir nad yw'r gyfraith wedi newid. Felly, pan fydd sefydliadau'n rhannu data - a chofiwch fod y data'n eiddo i'r claf, nid i'r sefydliadau; felly, eich data chi a fy nata i, a data'r person sy'n cael y prawf sy'n cael ei rannu - mae rhwymedigaeth o hyd ar sefydliadau i sicrhau bod hynny'n digwydd mewn ffordd sy'n ofalus ac yn gymesur. Er nad wyf am i'r rheoliad cyffredinol ar ddiogelu data a materion rhannu data atal unrhyw un rhag gwneud y peth iawn, rwy'n deall pam fod angen i bobl a fydd yn cael eu dwyn i gyfrif am y ffordd y maent wedi gwneud y penderfyniadau hynny ynglŷn â'n data sicrhau eu bod yn gwneud hynny mewn ffordd a fyddai'n parhau i wrthsefyll craffu gan y Comisiynydd Gwybodaeth ac unrhyw lys barn.