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English: It's difficult to answer that question at the moment, isn't it? There is a four-region regional structure in existence in other areas in Wales already. And what's important in planning particularly - . Over previous years, planning has been led at a local authority level, with local development plans. And that's where the policies impacting on Welsh-speaking communities sit. Now, I think we welcome the national development framework. As we discussed earlier, it does put in place a consistent national structure. There are then linkages with Welsh language strategies. But there is a question mark as to the regional level. Now, it's possible for local authorities to come together to draw up strategic development plans at a regional level, but, to date, I don't think we have seen any such plans. So, there is concern, and I think there is some question and some uncertainty as to how exactly the regional level will work, what will fit in the middle between the LDPs and the national development framework. And I'm not entirely sure how that will work, but it's a concern because the information simply isn't there at the moment.
Welsh: Mae'n anodd ateb y cwestiwn yna, onid ydy, ar hyn o bryd. Mae yna strwythur rhanbarthol o bedair rhanbarth yn bodoli mewn meysydd eraill yng Nghymru yn barod. Beth sy'n bwysig yn y maes cynllunio yn benodol - . Dros y blynyddoedd diwethaf, mae'r maes cynllunio wedi cael ei arwain yn weddol sirol, felly cynlluniau datblygu lleol. Ac yn fanna, mewn gwirionedd, mae'r polisïau sydd yn effeithio ar gymunedau Cymraeg. Dwi'n meddwl rydyn ni'n croesawu'r fframwaith datblygu cenedlaethol, ac fel rydyn ni wedi trafod yn gynharach, mae o yn gosod strwythur cyson cenedlaethol. Mae yna gysylltiadau wedyn efo strategaethau o ran y Gymraeg. Ond mae yna gwestiwn ynglŷn â'r lefel rhanbarthol. Mae o'n bosib i awdurdodau ddod at ei gilydd i lunio cynlluniau datblygu strategol sydd ar lefel rhanbarthol, ond hyd yma, dwi ddim yn meddwl ein bod ni wedi gweld unrhyw gynllun o'r fath. Felly, mae yna bryder, ac mae yna gwestiwn ac ansicrwydd, dwi'n meddwl, ynglŷn â sut yn union bydd y lefel rhanbarthol yn gweithio, beth fydd yn ffitio yn y canol rhwng y cynlluniau datblygu lleol â'r fframwaith datblygu cenedlaethol. A dwi ddim yn sicr eto sut fydd hynna'n gweithio, ond mae o'n gonsérn achos dydy'r wybodaeth ddim yna ar hyn o bryd.
English: Thank you. Does Dylan or Robat have anything to add to this? Robat.
Welsh: Diolch. Oes gyda Dylan neu Robat unrhyw beth i'w ychwanegu at hyn? Robat.
English: Only to repeat what I said earlier, that we do anticipate that this whole context will militate against the Welsh language, for the reasons I've already set out. And I think there is a possibility that if they had been drawn up in a different way, that they could support the Welsh language, but as things stand, they won't help, I'm afraid.
Welsh: Dim ond i ddweud beth ddywedais i o'r blaen, a dweud y gwir, ein bod ni'n rhagweld bod yr holl syniad yma yn mynd i filwrio yn erbyn y Gymraeg, am y rhesymau dwi wedi'u dweud yn barod. Ac mae yna bosibilrwydd, pe bai nhw wedi eu llunio mewn ffordd wahanol, y gallen nhw helpu'r Gymraeg, ond fel mae nhw'n sefyll rŵan, fyddan nhw ddim, mae arna i ofn.
English: Thank you very much to our three witnesses. We will be sending you a transcript of the meeting so you can check it for accuracy. Thank you very much for a very interesting session, and apologies once again for the technical problems during the session. So, thank you very much, and goodbye. You're welcome to leave us when you're ready to do so. So, I'll suggest to fellow Members that we now have a 10-minute break - a little less than 10 minutes, perhaps. I think it's important that we do have a short break. And if we could return by 10.55.
Welsh: Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn i'n tri tyst ni. Diolch yn fawr iawn i'n tystion. Byddwn ni'n danfon trawsgrifiad o'r cyfarfod atoch chi er mwyn i chi sicrhau ein bod ni wedi cofnodi popeth yn gywir. Diolch yn fawr iawn am sesiwn ddiddorol, ac ymddiheuriadau eto am y problemau technegol yn y canol. So, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi, a hwyl fawr. Croeso cynnes i chi ein gadael ni pan dŷch chi'n barod. So, dwi'n mynd i awgrymu i'm cyd-Aelodau ein bod ni'n cael 10 munud o doriad - jest llai na 10 munud o doriad rŵan. Dwi'n credu ei bod hi'n bwysig ein bod ni'n cael brêc bach. Ac os gallwn ni drio dod nôl tua 10:55.
English: Good morning once again and welcome back to this meeting of the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee meeting. We move now to item 3 on our agenda, where we are returning to the work that we've already done on live music and focusing specifically on the impact of the current public health crisis on live music. We are very pleased to welcome our four witnesses.
Welsh: Bore da eto, bawb, a chroeso nôl i gyfarfod Pwyllgor Diwylliant, yr Iaith Gymraeg a Chyfathrebu. Dŷn ni'n symud nawr at eitem 3 ar yr agenda, lle dŷn ni'n ailedrych ar y gwaith dŷn ni wedi'i wneud yn barod ar gerddoriaeth fyw ac yn canolbwyntio'n benodol ar effaith y crisis presennol ar y diwydiant cerddoriaeth fyw. Dŷn ni'n falch iawn o groesawu pedwar tyst atom ni.
English: I will just go around the screen as I see it and ask you to introduce yourselves. So, we could start with Guto Brychan.
Welsh: Gwnaf i fynd o gwmpas y sgrin fel dwi'n ei weld e, a gofyn i chi gyflwyno eich hunain. So, dechrau gyda Guto Brychan.
English: I will start with some general questions. Could you just set out what the state of your businesses is? And, Sam, perhaps you could refer more generally to similar businesses across Wales. Once the pandemic allows us to do so, how easy would it be to recommence live music in Wales? So, if you could set out the current position. I'll start with Guto.
Welsh: Fe wnaf i ddechrau gyda rhai cwestiynau eithaf mawr, eithaf cyffredinol. So, os dŷch chi jest yn gallu disgrifio i ni beth yw sefyllfaoedd eich busnesau chi. A, Sam, efallai gallwch chi ychwanegu, yn fwy cyffredinol, am fusnesau tebyg dros Gymru. Pa mor hawdd fyddai, pan fydd y pandemig yn ei ganiatau, ailgychwyn â cherddoriaeth byw yng Nghymru? Felly, ar y sefyllfa bresennol, gwnaf ddechrau efo Guto.
English: Yes, I would agree with Sam there. The idea of socially distanced gigs isn't about making money; it's bound to make a loss. But we've already put a plan in place in order to do so, but to date, we haven't found a way to make it work. So usually, if you arrange a gig - and I'm sure everybody would agree with this - it's very seldom that you'd make a lot of money from ticket sales. We want to be fair and support artists too, so you are going to make a loss if you're just going to take that risk upon yourself. Well, it's not a risk; you know you're going to make a loss, because you're not going to be able to get the numbers in. But we've looked at a plan where we could have a very small number of people in. Our venue holds 400 people, so before the Government changed the rules a few weeks ago, we believed that we could get 32 people in safely. Now, that's a very small number, but it would be a start, and we could then build on that.
Welsh: Dwi'n cytuno efo Sam yn fan yna. Dydy'r syniad o wneud gigs efo social ' distance-io', dydy o ddim yn syniad o wneud pres; mae'n syniad i wneud colled. Dŷn ni'n barod wedi rhoi cynllun at ei gilydd ar gyfer gwneud hynny, ond hyd yma, dydyn ni ddim wedi ffeindio ffordd o wneud iddo weithio. Felly, fel arfer, os dŷch chi'n trefnu gig - a dwi'n siŵr y gwnaiff pawb arall gytuno - anaml iawn dŷch chi'n mynd i wneud lot o bres allan o docynnau beth bynnag. Rydyn ni eisiau bod yn deg a chefnogi artistiaid hefyd, felly dŷch chi yn mynd i golli pres os ydych chi jest yn mynd i gymryd risg eich hunan. Wel, dydy o ddim yn risg, a dweud y gwir; dŷch chi'n gwybod eich bod chi'n mynd i wneud colled os ydych chi'n mynd i - dŷch chi ddim yn mynd i allu cael digon o bobl i mewn. Ond dŷn ni wedi edrych ar gynllun lle buasem ni'n gallu cael nifer fach iawn o bobl i mewn. Mae ein venue ni yn dal 400, so roedden ni wedi cyfrif, cyn i'r Llywodraeth newid y rheolau ychydig o wythnosau yn ôl, roedden ni'n gallu cael 32 o bobl i mewn yn saff. A dwi'n meddwl bod hwnna'n nifer fach, ond buasai fo'n fan cychwyn, a buasem ni'n gallu adeiladu ar hynny wedyn.
English: Yes, I agree. If people are successful in getting funding from the culture fund, then there would be an opportunity to trial socially distanced gigs, and that would be something the sector would welcome. One of the things that's worth noting too, as well as Sam's comments on staging events for the community, I think artists themselves have been suffering greatly over this period, so it's an opportunity to provide some money for the artists. But another factor that's worth considering is that, at the moment, the sector in Britain, particularly the grass roots, is starting to arrange tours again. A lot of the bands that would play in Clwb or Le Pub are now touring on a socially distanced basis in England, and we can't offer them dates in Wales. So, there is a risk that if this discrepancy remains in place for too long, then we are going to lose touch with the broader sector, and it's going to make it much more difficult for us to rebuild the strong sector that we had for new music in Wales once we have an opportunity to stage events in future.
Welsh: Ie, dwi'n cytuno. Os yw pobl lwyddiannus yn cael nawdd o'r gronfa ddiwylliannol, yna mi fuasai'r cyfle i dreialu gigs socially distancing yn rhywbeth y buasai'r sector yn ei groesawu. Un o'r pethau mae'n werth nodi hefyd, yn ogystal â'r pwyntiau roedd Sam yn eu gwneud o ran rhoi digwyddiadau ymlaen yn y gymuned eto, mae artistiaid eu hunain wedi bod yn dioddef yn fawr dros y cyfnod hyn, so mae'n gyfle i roi rhywfaint o bres yn ôl i'r artistiaid. Ond ffactor arall sy'n werth ystyried ydy ar hyn o bryd, mae'r sector ym Mhrydain, yn enwedig o ran y grass roots, yn dechrau trefnu teithiau eto. Mae lot o'r bandiau buasai yn chwarae yn rhywle fel Clwb neu Le Pub a ballu yn gwneud teithiau socially distanced yn Lloegr, a dŷn ni methu cynnig dyddiadau iddyn nhw yng Nghymru. So, mae yna beryg, os yw'r discrepancy yma'n mynd ymlaen yn rhy hir, dŷn ni'n mynd i golli cysylltiad efo'r sector ehangach, ac mae'n mynd i'w wneud e lot yn anoddach inni ailadeiladu'r sector cryf oedd efo ni'n bodoli ar gyfer cerddoriaeth newydd yng Nghymru unwaith y mae'r cyfle i wneud y digwyddiadau'n dod i ni eto.
English: I just wanted to agree with the comments made by Gary and Sam. One factor that we need to take into account also is that the costs of reopening under these current restrictions are going to be higher. You will need more staff to ensure that venues are compliant with the new rules. When we reopened, we were operating with table service, so we needed so many staff to open on the Saturday evening where the capacity was only 25 per cent of what we would usually get on a Saturday, so the income, of course, is a lot lower. So, I would agree with allowing venues to trade according to their current licensing hours, in order to ensure those differences in terms of closing time could be in place to avoid pinchpoints. That would allow more venues to open and to open safely.
Welsh: Roeddwn i jest eisiau cytuno efo beth roedd Gary a Sam yn ei ddweud. Un ffactor sydd angen ei ystyried hefyd ydy bod y costau o ailagor o dan y mesuriadau ychwanegol yma yn mynd i fod yn uwch ar gyfer cwmnïau. Mae angen mwy o staff i wneud yn sicr bod y lleoliadau yn cydymffurfio efo'r rheolau newydd. Pan oeddem ni ar agor, roeddem ni'n gweithredu table service, so roedd yna sut gymaint o staff efo ni ar gyfer agor ar nos Sadwrn lle'r oedd y capasiti chwarter beth yw e yn normal, beth fuasem ni'n ei gael ar nos Sadwrn normal, ond yn amlwg mae'r incwm yn dipyn is. Buaswn i'n cytuno, felly, efo gadael i leoliadau fasnachu tuag at yr oriau yn eu trwydded bresennol er mwyn sicrhau y gwahaniaethau yna yn yr amser mae'r llefydd yn cau fel does yna ddim pinchpoints yn digwydd. Dyna fuasai'n galluogi mwy o lefydd i agor ac i agor yn saff.
English: I just wanted to agree with all the comments made. I just wanted to say that our situation is slightly different because we're in a town rather than a city, so the situation is different. We don't get so much passing trade; we just get the people who attend the gig. But I think there's also scope for venues and audiences to be flexible, and I think safety is the most important thing for all of us. We don't want to reopen and then see that actually having an impact on people's health, but I do think the restrictions on time and the curfew - I don't understand how that is going to help. Even in a venue in a small place such as ours, but in urban areas certainly, being able to manage people within a venue is easier than actually managing people outside a venue.
Welsh: Roeddwn i jest yn cytuno efo pawb, a dweud y gwir. Ond mae ein sefyllfa ni - . Roeddwn i jest eisiau dweud bod ein sefyllfa ni ychydig bach yn wahanol achos rydym ni mewn tref ac mae pawb arall efo venue mewn dinas, felly mae'r sefyllfa yn wahanol. Dydym ni ddim yn cael cymaint â hynna o passing trade; rydym ni jest yn cael y bobl sy'n dod i'r gig. Ond dwi'n meddwl bod yna le, hefyd, i venues a'r gynulleidfa fod yn hyblyg, a dwi'n meddwl diogelwch ydy'r peth mwyaf pwysig inni i gyd. Dydym ni ddim eisiau ein bod ni'n ailagor a bod hynna yn creu mwy o ddifrod ac amharu ar iechyd bobl, ond dwi'n meddwl bod cyfyngu o ran amseroedd - dwi ddim yn deall sut mae hynna yn mynd i helpu. Hyd yn oed mewn venue lle bach fath â un ni, ond yn sicr yn ddinesig, dwi'n meddwl bod gallu rheoli pobl mewn sefyllfa mewn venue yn haws na'u rheoli nhw pan fyddan nhw'n gadael y venue.
English: Yes. Unlike Sam - apologies, Sam, but we thought that creating those groups would be a good thing. I think the original question, the way I see that is, because we are going to limit numbers, so we have a venue with a capacity of 400 and we can only take 32 people at the moment, if you measure out the room capacity, so, it's easier to market things locally and attract people to a gig locally because, if the numbers are small, then you don't need to have a broad reach to your marketing. But, Sam, we felt that a cabaret-type scenario would work for us, so we could accommodate family groups or other bubbles, and that would be more secure. Of course, I understand Sam's point; I'm not going against that, but what I'm saying is that was part of our plan. But another part of our plan was to stagger arrival times, as Sam said, and we've also made an application to see if we can have an app in order to order drinks and so on. And because the numbers are so small, we believe that we could be in regular contact with all bookings to say, 'Well, this is your arrival time, this is where you'll sit, tell us, through the app, what drinks you want' so that everything can be booked beforehand and then there will be so much less contact. They'll walk in, the drinks will be available. If they want more, then we have a system in place that they can have those drinks in a safe way.
Welsh: Ie. Roeddem ni wedi gweld, yn wahanol i Sam, a dweud y gwir - sori, Sam - . Roeddem ni wedi meddwl efallai creu math o grwpiau. So, dwi'n meddwl y cwestiwn gwreiddiol, y ffordd dwi'n gweld hwnna ydy, gan ein bod ni'n mynd i gyfyngu niferoedd, felly mae venue sy'n dal 400 dim ond yn gallu cymryd 32 o bobl ar y funud, os ydych chi'n mesur allan yr ystafell, felly, mae'n hawsach cyfyngu ei farchnata fo a denu pobl i gig yn lleol achos dydych chi ddim angen mynd allan ymhellach. Felly, os ydy'r niferoedd yn fach rydych chi'n gallu eu cael i mewn, dydych chi ddim angen cael reach mawr iddo fe. Ond, Sam, roeddwn i'n teimlo bod sefyllfa yr un fath â cabare yn mynd i weithio i ni, fel ein bod ni yn creu math o grwpiau teuluol neu bubble efo'i gilydd, a bod hynna'n fwy diogel. Dwi'n deall pwynt Sam; dwi ddim yn mynd yn erbyn beth mae Sam yn ei ddweud, ond beth dwi'n ei ddweud ydy: roedd hynna'n rhan o'n cynllun ni. Ond hefyd, rhan o'n cynllun ni oedd ein bod ni'n stagro faint o'r gloch mae pobl yn ei gyrraedd, fel roedd Sam yn ei dweud, ac wedyn ein bod ni - . Rydym ni newydd wneud cais i weld os gallen ni gael ap ar gyfer bwcio diodydd ac yn y blaen. A gan fod y niferoedd mor fach, roeddem ni'n amcangyfrif ein bod ni'n gallu bod mewn cyswllt cyson, yn y cychwyn, efo pob un booking i ddweud, 'Dyma faint o'r gloch rydych chi'n cyrraedd; yn fan hyn rydych chi'n mynd i eistedd; dywedwch wrthon ni, drwy'r ap, pa ddiodydd rydych chi eu heisiau' fel eu bod nhw'n gallu bwcio pob dim o flaen llaw. Felly, mae yna gymaint llai o contact yn mynd i fod. Maen nhw'n mynd i gerdded mewn, mae yna ddiodydd yna. Os ydyn nhw eisiau mwy, bydd yna system yn ei lle i ofalu eu bod nhw cael nhw mewn ffordd ddiogel.
English: I would endorse Gary's comments. Generally speaking, the message has been consistent and clear, in contrast perhaps with the situation over the border, but, when it comes to detail and interpretation of the regulations, that is where there has been some discrepancy. We were in a situation where we tried to put DJs on when we reopened as a bar, because we understood that recorded music was allowed, but then it became apparent that the local authority, the regulatory services, defined a DJ as a live performer, and therefore we couldn't do that. As we had previously advertised that we would have a DJ, it meant that we were contacted by regulatory services beforehand, but there were a number of other venues in Cardiff that also weren't aware of the interpretation of the regulations and had been putting DJs on. So, it created a level of inconsistency, just because of the way in which the guidance was interpreted by the authorities in our area, which was different in other areas. And that's part of the challenge, I think. These changes will have to be made quite regularly, and drilling down to the detail in order to ensure that all possible scenarios for all industries are covered is going to be a very difficult, if not impossible, task, and it will mean, to a certain extent, that we as a sector will have to try and interpret the rules ourselves and that has created some difficulty in the past.
Welsh: Buaswn i'n ategu beth mae Gary yn ei ddweud. Ar y cyfan, mae'r neges wedi bod yn gyson ac yn glir mewn cymhariaeth eithaf amlwg efo'r sefyllfa dros y ffin, ond lle mae'r manylion a dehongli'r rheoliadau, dyna lle mae yna rywfaint o wahaniaeth wedi bod. Roeddem ni mewn sefyllfa lle'r oeddem ni wedi trio rhoi DJs ymlaen pan wnaethon ni ailagor fel tafarn, achos roeddem ni'n deall bod cerddoriaeth wedi ei recordio yn cael ei ganiatáu, ond daeth yn amlwg wedyn bod yr awdurdod lleol sydd yn gwneud regulatory services yn diffinio'r DJ fel perfformiwr byw, ac felly doedd e ddim yn bosib i'w wneud. Gan ein bod ni wedi hysbysebu o flaen llaw ein bod ni'n bwriadu rhoi DJ ymlaen, roedd hynny'n golygu y gwnaethom ni gael cysylltiad gan regulatory services cyn eu bod nhw wedi dechrau gweithredu, ond mi oedd yna sawl lleoliad arall yng Nghaerdydd hefyd nad oedd yn ymwybodol o sut oedd y rheolau yn cael eu dehongli ac wedi bod yn rhoi DJs ymlaen. So, mi oedd e'n creu lefel o anghysondeb, jest oherwydd, dwi'n meddwl, y ffordd roedd y rheolau yn cael eu dehongli gan yr awdurdodau yn ein hardal ni ac yn wahanol mewn awdurdodau eraill. A dyna rhan o'r sialens sydd yn mynd i fod, dwi'n meddwl: mae newidiadau yn gorfod dod yn eithaf rheolaidd ac mae drilio lawr arnyn nhw i wneud yn siŵr bod pob sefyllfa posib ar gyfer pob diwydiant posib yn mynd i fod yn job anodd, os nad amhosib, ac mae yn golygu i ryw raddau wedyn ein bod ni fel sector yn gorfod ceisio dehongli'r rheolau ein hunain, ac mae hynny wedi creu rhyw faint o drafferth yn y gorffennol.
English: I agree with Sam. Our experience has been that we are more of a music venue than we are anything else, but one of our streams is cinema, and we've had great support from Film Hub and Film Cymru, but in relation to music and that sector, we've had virtually no support. I do think it's very positive that Creative Wales has launched what they did in January. That was very positive, and thank goodness that that happened in January, because they've come in just at the right time to support us, or I think certain venues would have been lost already. But the support simply hasn't been there to date as compared with other sectors. In many ways, we've been left to figure it all out for ourselves.
Welsh: Dwi'n cytuno efo Sam. Y profiadau rydyn ni wedi eu cael ydy ein bod ni'n fwy o music venue na dim byd arall, ond un o'n ffynonellau ni ydy sinema, ac rydyn ni wedi cael llwyth o gefnogaeth gan Film Hub a Ffilm Cymru, ond gyda cherddoriaeth a'r sector yna, dydyn ni ddim wedi cael fawr ddim, a dweud y gwir. Dwi'n meddwl ei bod hi'n bositif iawn bod Creative Wales wedi lansio beth wnaethon nhw ym mis Ionawr. Mae hynny'n bositif, a diolch byth bod hynny wedi digwydd ym mis Ionawr, achos maen nhw wedi dod mewn jest ar yr amser iawn i gefnogi, neu dwi'n meddwl y bydden ni wedi colli rhai venues yn barod. Ond dydy'r gefnogaeth ddim wedi bod yna hyd yma i gymharu â llefydd eraill. Dwi'n meddwl mewn lot o ffyrdd rydyn ni jest wedi cael ein gadael i'w ffigro fo i gyd allan ein hunain.
English: I think, with the arts council, they were slightly sluggish at the outset and Creative Wales did offer assistance at the very outset. But I think, with Creative Wales, I wasn't aware of those meetings that Guto has been mentioning today, and we've been in contact with them throughout the year. We weren't invited to any of those meetings. So that's one point. And I also think that, at some point, I do think that they were just overwhelmed and that department isn't sufficiently experienced at the minute to deal with the situation. We've had some poor advice from them, too, where they said, 'Well, that's the kind of thing that we can fund', and then they backtracked on that. So I think that they are a department that's still in the developmental phase, to be honest, and I do look forward to working with them in future, but I'm not 100 per cent convinced that they are on it at the moment. I think they're clutching at straws a little, if I'm honest.
Welsh: Dwi'n meddwl, efo'r cyngor celfyddydau, roedden nhw ychydig bach yn araf deg ar y cychwyn, ac roedd Creative Wales yn cynnig ychydig o help reit ar y cychwyn. Ond dwi'n meddwl, efo Creative Wales, doeddwn i ddim yn ymwybodol o'r cyfarfodydd mae Guto wedi bod yn sôn amdanyn nhw heddiw, ac rydyn ni wedi bod mewn cyswllt â nhw drwy'r flwyddyn. Felly, doedden ni ddim wedi cael gwahoddiad i'r cyfarfodydd yna. Mae hynny'n un pwynt. Ond, hefyd, dwi'n meddwl, ar ryw bwynt, dwi'n meddwl eu bod nhw jest wedi cael gormod i'w wneud a bod yr adran yna ddim yn ddigon profiadol ar y funud i ddelio efo'r sefyllfa. Rydyn ni wedi cael rhywfaint o gyngor drwg ganddyn nhw, hefyd, lle roedden nhw wedi dweud, 'Dyma'r math o beth y gallwn ni ariannu', ac wedyn maen nhw wedi 'backtrack-io'. Felly, ie, dwi'n meddwl eu bod nhw'n adran sydd yn dal i ddatblygu, i fod yn onest, a dwi yn edrych ymlaen at gydweithio efo nhw yn y dyfodol, ond dwi ddim 100 y cant yn siŵr os ydyn nhw on it ar y funud. Dwi'n meddwl eu bod nhw'n clutching at straws ychydig bach, a bod yn onest.
English: Interesting. Sam.
Welsh: Diddorol. Sam.