English: I thank the Member for the comments. The first point you raise is actually a very fundamental one and perhaps, on reflection, I should have made more emphasis of it. It is absolutely vital and essential that we uphold and maintain the independence of Government of the judiciary and of the court system, and any Welsh system and aspects of a Welsh system will uphold those principles. One of the key issues, again within tribunal development, will be to ensure that is it, that our tribunal system, our embryonic justice system, is not an agency of Government, but is a body that is completely independent of Government in the way it operates. That does not contradict the concept and the role in terms of how justice is actually delivered and how justice actually engages. You raise valid points in terms of legal aid, and, of course, we have tried to ameliorate the impact of the legal aid cuts with the single advice fund. But you're absolutely right, there are two aspects to it: one is access to legal advice and legal support for those who need it; the other is the availability of those lawyers and advice workers who are capable of actually giving that support. And the fact is that, in some of our poorest communities and our rural communities, there is an increasing desert of availability, and that is why the developing of the Welsh legal economy is so important and why we are looking at things like apprenticeships and the way in which we might actually give further support to those particular firms, because they have a vital role to do as well. And, in fact, the role of those legal aid lawyers in communities is massively undervalued and under-represented when we talk about the justice system. You talked about virtual courts, and, of course, to some extent we have had the development of that during the COVID situation. They are not a substitute for everybody, and we have to be very aware of the potential inequalities that arise. We know that something like seven per cent of over-16s do not have digital access. Twenty-five per cent of many of our communities do not have adequate digital skills. So, we have to ensure that, where appropriate, and where virtual courts can take place - . And that has been developed, to some extent, within our tribunal system - that is a good thing and a progressive thing, but it is not something that on its own can solve the issues of access. So, the equality issue has to be considered very, very carefully within that development, and I know the Member has spoken about that in the past. You're absolutely right in terms of the issue you raise in terms of early intervention and the importance of that within the broader social and justice system. And in terms of resources, let's say this: isn't it about time we stopped investing in failure and started actually investing in prevention, in engagement and co-operation? What we have at the moment is enormous amounts of money being spent on a system that is failing, on a prison system that doesn't work, that doesn't achieve et cetera. You just think how much more effectively those resources could be used with a different direction in terms of social and justice policy. Diolch.
Welsh: Diolch i'r Aelod am y sylwadau. Mae'r pwynt cyntaf yr ydych chi'n ei godi mewn gwirionedd yn un sylfaenol iawn ac efallai, o ystyried, y dylwn i fod wedi rhoi mwy o bwyslais arno. Mae'n gwbl hanfodol ac yn angenrheidiol ein bod ni'n cefnogi ac yn cynnal annibyniaeth Llywodraeth y farnwriaeth a'r system lysoedd, a bydd unrhyw system Gymreig ac agweddau ar system Gymreig yn cynnal yr egwyddorion hynny. Un o'r materion allweddol, unwaith eto o fewn datblygu tribiwnlysoedd, fydd sicrhau hynny, nad yw ein system tribiwnlysoedd, ein system cyfiawnder embryonig, yn un o asiantaethau'r Llywodraeth, ond ei bod yn gorff sy'n gwbl annibynnol ar y Llywodraeth yn y ffordd mae'n gweithredu. Nid yw hynny'n gwrth-ddweud y cysyniad a'r rôl o ran sut mae cyfiawnder yn cael ei gyflawni mewn gwirionedd a sut mae cyfiawnder yn ymgysylltu mewn gwirionedd. Rydych chi'n codi pwyntiau dilys o ran cymorth cyfreithiol, ac, wrth gwrs, rydym ni wedi ceisio lleddfu effaith y toriadau mewn cymorth cyfreithiol gyda'r gronfa gynghori sengl. Ond rydych chi yn llygad eich lle, mae dwy agwedd arno: un yw mynediad at gyngor cyfreithiol a chymorth cyfreithiol i'r rhai sydd ei angen; y llall yw argaeledd y cyfreithwyr a'r gweithwyr cynghori hynny sy'n gallu rhoi'r cymorth hwnnw mewn gwirionedd. A'r ffaith yw, yn rhai o'n cymunedau tlotaf a'n cymunedau gwledig, fod anialwch cynyddol o ran argaeledd, a dyna pam mae datblygu economi gyfreithiol Cymru mor bwysig a pham rydym ni'n edrych ar bethau fel prentisiaethau a'r ffordd y gallem ni roi cymorth pellach i'r cwmnïau penodol hynny, oherwydd bod ganddyn nhw rôl hanfodol i wneud hefyd. Ac, mewn gwirionedd, mae rôl y cyfreithwyr cymorth cyfreithiol hynny mewn cymunedau yn cael ei thanbrisio a'i thangynrychioli'n aruthrol pan fyddwn ni'n sôn am y system gyfiawnder. Fe wnaethoch chi sôn am lysoedd rhithwir, ac, wrth gwrs, i ryw raddau rydym ni wedi datblygu hynny yn ystod sefyllfa COVID. Dydyn nhw ddim yn addas i bawb, a rhaid i ni fod yn ymwybodol iawn o'r anghydraddoldebau posibl sy'n codi. Rydym ni'n gwybod nad oes gan rywbeth fel saith y cant o bobl dros 16 mlwydd oed fynediad digidol. Nid oes gan 25 y cant o lawer o'n cymunedau sgiliau digidol digonol. Felly, rhaid i ni sicrhau, pan fo'n briodol, a lle y gall llysoedd rhithwir ddigwydd - . Ac mae hynny wedi'i ddatblygu, i ryw raddau, o fewn ein system tribiwnlysoedd - mae hynny'n beth da ac yn beth blaengar, ond nid yw'n rhywbeth a all, ar ei ben ei hun, ddatrys problemau mynediad. Felly, rhaid ystyried y mater cydraddoldeb yn ofalus iawn, iawn o fewn y datblygiad hwnnw, ac rwy'n gwybod bod yr Aelod wedi siarad am hynny yn y gorffennol. Rydych chi yn llygad eich lle o ran y mater yr ydych chi'n ei godi o ran ymyrraeth gynnar a phwysigrwydd hynny o fewn y system gymdeithasol a chyfiawnder ehangach. Ac o ran adnoddau, gadewch i ni ddweud hyn: onid yw'n hen bryd i ni roi'r gorau i fuddsoddi mewn methiant a dechrau buddsoddi mewn atal, ymgysylltu a chydweithredu? Yr hyn sydd gennym ni ar hyn o bryd yw symiau enfawr o arian yn cael ei wario ar system sy'n methu, ar system carchardai nad yw'n gweithio, nad yw'n cyflawni ac yn y blaen. Meddyliwch faint yn fwy effeithiol y gellid defnyddio'r adnoddau hynny gyda chyfeiriad gwahanol o ran polisi cymdeithasol a chyfiawnder. Diolch.