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English: The next vote is on the Welsh Conservatives' debate on coronavirus and the December restrictions. The first and only vote under this item is a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Darren Millar. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 17, nine abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.
Welsh: Mae'r bleidlais nesaf ar ddadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig ar goronafeirws a chyfyngiadau mis Rhagfyr. Mae'r bleidlais gyntaf a'r unig bleidlais ar y ddadl yma yn bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Darren Millar. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 17, naw yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Ac felly, mae'r cynnig wedi'i wrthod.
English: The next vote is on the Standards of Conduct Committee report 03-20. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Jayne Bryant. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 45, two abstentions and six against. Therefore, the motion is agreed.
Welsh: Mae'r bleidlais nesaf ar adroddiad y Pwyllgor Safonau Ymddygiad, adroddiad 03-20. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Jayne Bryant. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 45, dau yn ymatal, chwech yn erbyn. Ac felly, mae'r cynnig wedi'i gymeradwyo.
English: And that brings today's proceedings to a close. Thank you.
Welsh: A dyna ni'n dod at ddiwedd ein gwaith ni am y dydd. Diolch yn fawr.
English: A very good morning to you all, and a warm welcome to Members and witnesses to this meeting of the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee. In accordance with Standing Order 34.19, I have determined that the public are excluded from attending this committee meeting in order to protect public health. The meeting is being broadcast live on Senedd.tv and all participants are joining virtually. A transcript of the meeting will be published as usual. Aside from the procedural adaptations relating to conducting proceedings remotely, all other Standing Order requirements remain in place. If for any technical reason I drop out of the meeting, David Melding has very kindly agreed to take the Chair temporarily whilst I try and rejoin. We've received apologies this morning from Mick Antoniw. May I ask my fellow Members if they have any declarations of interest? I see that there are none.
Welsh: Bore da, bawb, a chroeso cynnes i Aelodau a thystion i gyfarfod y Pwyllgor Diwylliant, y Gymraeg a Chyfathrebu. Yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 34.19, dwi wedi gwahardd y cyhoedd rhag bod yn rhan o'r cyfarfod yma er mwyn diogelu iechyd y cyhoedd. Mae'r cyfarfod yn cael ei ddarlledu yn fyw ar Senedd.tv, ac mae pawb yn ymuno trwy ddulliau rhithiol. Bydd trawsgrifiad yn cael ei gyhoeddi fel arfer. Ar wahân i'r pethau y mae'n rhaid i ni wneud yn wahanol gan ein bod ni'n cwrdd o bellter, mae'r holl Rheolau Sefydlog eraill yn eu lle. Os am unrhyw reswm technegol dwi'n cwympo allan o'r cyfarfod, mae David Melding yn garedig iawn wedi cytuno i gadeirio tra fy mod i'n trio ailymuno. Dŷn ni wedi derbyn ymddiheuriadau gan Mick Antoniw heddiw. A gaf i ofyn i'm cyd-Aelodau os oes unrhyw ddatganiadau o fuddiant? Dwi'n gweld nad oes.
English: Therefore I move on to item 2, which is evidence gathering in our inquiry into who gets remembered in our public spaces. I'm very pleased to welcome Sara Huws, Dr Sarah May and Helen Molyneux. If I could ask you to introduce yourselves as you appear on my screen.
Welsh: Felly dwi'n symud i eitem 2, sef eitem o dystiolaeth yn ein hymchwiliad ni yn edrych ar bwy sy'n cael eu coffáu yn ein llefydd cyhoeddus ni. Dwi'n falch iawn i groesawu Sara Huws, Dr Sarah May a Helen Molyneux. A gaf i ofyn ichi gyflwyno eich hunain jest fel rŷch chi'n ymddangos ar fy sgrin i?
English: Good morning. I'm Sara Huws. I've been researching, writing and broadcasting about statues of women for some 10 years now. I'm also the joint founder of the only museum commemorating women's history, the East End Women's Museum in London, which was established as an act of positive protest with the opening of the Jack the Ripper Museum to show that we can commemorate women in different ways, in playful ways, in meaningful ways, and in their lives, not just in their deaths.
Welsh: Bore da. Sara Huws ydw i. Dwi wedi bod yn ymchwilio, ysgrifennu a darlledu am gerfluniau o fenywod ers tua 10 mlynedd nawr. Dwi hefyd yn gydsefydlydd unig amgueddfa hanes menywod Cymru a Lloegr, yr East End Women's Museum yn Llundain, a gafodd ei sefydlu fel gweithred o brotest positif gydag agor Amgueddfa Jack the Ripper, i ddangos ein bod ni'n gallu coffáu menywod mewn ffyrdd amgen a ffyrdd chwareus, mewn ffyrdd ystyrlon, ac yn eu bywydau nhw, nid jest yn eu marwolaethau.
English: A very warm welcome to all.
Welsh: Croeso cynnes atom ni.
English: Thank you very much, Chair, and good morning, everybody.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Gadeirydd, a bore da i bawb.
English: I would certainly endorse Sarah's point. The discussion on commemoration, in statues particularly, has focused this year on a very specific sub-genre, namely statues that are representative and on a pedestal. They're almost like a meme or an imprint more than anything else, and perhaps it isn't representative of all the other forms of commemoration in our communities at the moment. Or indeed in terms of art - if you're trying to recruit a sculptor or a sculptress to do this kind of work, you would have problems in finding more than a handful of female artists, so it is a genre that doesn't even belong to the previous century, but the century before that. So, I would think, yes, that we need to broaden the horizons and look upwards and outwards. The question I asked in 2011 was: given that people still wanted to commission these, where are the women? And may I just say on a more general point - ? I will be discussing statues of women this morning, and I'm using the inclusive definition here, which includes trans women.
Welsh: Byddwn i'n ategu pwynt Sarah. Yn y drafodaeth ynglŷn â choffáu a choffadwriaeth, mewn cerfluniau yn benodol, rydyn ni wedi bod yn ffocysu eleni ar is-genre penodol iawn, sef cerfluniau sydd yn gynrychioladol, sydd yn efydd, sydd ar bedestal - maen nhw bron fel meme neu imprint neu rywbeth yn fwy nag unrhyw beth arall. Efallai dyw e ddim yn gynrychioladol o'r holl ffyrdd mae coffadwriaeth yn digwydd yn ein cymunedau ni ar hyn o bryd, na chwaith y maes celf. Buaswn i'n meddwl, os rydych chi'n trio recriwtio, er enghraifft, cerfwraig neu gerfiwr i wneud y math yma o waith erbyn hyn, byddech chi'n cael trafferth ffeindio mwy na llond llaw artistiaid benywaidd, er enghraifft, felly mae e'n genre sydd ddim hyd yn oed yn eiddo i'r ganrif ddiwethaf, ond y ganrif gynt. A hefyd y confensiynau enwi rydyn ni'n eu trafod. Felly, buaswn i'n meddwl bod eisiau ehangu ac edrych i fyny ac allan. Y cwestiwn y gwnes i holi yn 2011 oedd: gyda bod pobl yn dal i weld eisiau comisiynu'r rhain, ble mae'r menywod? A gaf i jest ddweud ar bwynt mwy cyffredinol - ? Byddaf i'n trafod cerfluniau menywod y bore yma, a dwi'n defnyddio'r diffiniad cynhwysol o fenywod, ac yn hynny yn cynnwys menywod traws hefyd.
English: Sara after Helen.
Welsh: Sara ar ôl Helen.
English: Sara, you can come in after. Helen.
Welsh: Sara, ti wedyn hefyd. Helen.
English: That's very interesting. Anything further, John?
Welsh: Diddorol. Unrhyw beth pellach, John?
English: And Sara, if you want to contribute, you can come in after Sarah. Sarah.
Welsh: Ac efallai Sara, os ŷch chi'n moyn cyfrannu hefyd. Sarah.
English: Sara, did you want to come in at this point?
Welsh: Sara, ydych chi am ddod i mewn fan hyn, hefyd?
English: Yes. We're just pleased to see discussion on participation in this process. In terms of the project I jointly established in London, we have used seed funding - not much at all - and we have succeeded, through participative approaches and slightly more playful approaches, perhaps, to engage with over 20,000 people over the past few years, and have been able to highlight women's histories in more established collections - so, working with partners in local authorities, such as Barking and Dagenham, Hackney, Tower Hamlets, to search their archives, and to bring these stories to the fore, and to share them locally, and also to find stories that perhaps have more of a national resonance that will inspire. And that has certainly been inspired by the work of the Wales Women's Archive, and I think it's worth acknowledging the contribution that they have made in their original research to create the foundation that we can all work from today.
Welsh: Ie. Dwi jest yn falch o weld trafodaeth o gyfranogaeth yn y broses yma. O ran y prosiect dwi wedi cyd-sefydlu yn Llundain, dŷn ni wedi defnyddio hadau o arian - dim llawer o gwbl - a dŷn ni wedi llwyddo, trwy ffyrdd cyfranogol a ffyrdd efallai ychydig bach yn fwy chwareus, i ymgysylltu â thros 20,000 o bobl dros y blynyddoedd diwethaf, a hefyd wedi gallu amlygu hanesion menywod mewn casgliadau mwy sefydlog - felly gweithio gyda phartneriaid mewn awdurdodau lleol fel Barking and Dagenham, Hackney, Tower Hamlets, i dyrchio yn eu harchifau nhw ac i ddod â'r straeon yma i'r wyneb, ac i'w rhannu nhw yn lleol, a hefyd i ffeindio straeon efallai sydd â mwy o adlais cenedlaethol, a fydd eto yn ysbrydoli. Ac felly, mae hynny'n sicr wedi ei ysbrydoli gan waith Archif Menywod Cymru, a dwi'n credu ei bod hi'n werth cydnabod yn y cyfarfod yma heddiw y cyfraniad y mae'n nhw wedi ei wneud yn eu hymchwil gwreiddiol nhw, i greu'r sylfaen dŷn ni i gyd yn gallu gweithio ohoni heddiw.
English: Thank you very much for referring to them, because their work is extremely important. We do have so many questions to get through; we are short of time, but if we run slightly over, by five or 10 minutes, would you as witnesses be okay to remain with us for slightly longer? We'll see how things go, but I am very aware that people's time is precious. So, if I could invite David Melding to ask questions now. David.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn am gyfeirio atyn nhw, achos mae eu gwaith nhw'n hynod o bwysig, yn dydy? Mae gyda ni gymaint o gwestiynau dŷn ni am eu gofyn, a dŷn ni yn brin o amser. Os dŷn ni'n rhedeg dros amser o ryw bum neu 10 munud, ydych chi fel tystion yn iawn i aros gyda ni jest dipyn bach yn fwy? Gawn ni weld sut mae'n mynd, ond dwi'n ymwybodol iawn bod amser pobl yn werthfawr. Gaf i ofyn i David Melding ddod i mewn nawr? David.
English: Very briefly, I'm very pleased that that detail is contained within the report because as one who is regularly trying to raise funds for initiatives celebrating women's history, getting those statistics is extremely important. It can tell us that, for example, there are only three statues of black women in the whole of the UK - there are more named statues of goats than there are of women of ethnic minorities. Nine per cent of statues in Britain are of named women. So, these statistics help us to highlight these issues, and help with campaigns such as the one Helen has led, and they can convince people. So, it's very important that we bring those statistics to the fore.
Welsh: Yn gryno iawn, dwi'n falch iawn bod y manylder yna yn yr adroddiad oherwydd fel rhywun sydd yn gyson yn trio codi arian ar gyfer mentrau sydd yn dathlu hanes menywod, er enghraifft, mae cael yr ystadegau yna yn hynod o bwysig. Mae gallu dweud, er enghraifft, mai dim ond tri cherflun sydd yna o fenywod du ym Mhrydain i gyd; mae mwy o gerfluniau o eifr gydag enwau na sydd yna o fenywod o leiafrifoedd ethnig. Mae gyda ni 9 y cant o gerfluniau Prydain sydd o fenywod gydag enw. Mae'r ystadegau yma yn ein helpu ni i amlygu'r math yma o achos, ac ar gyfer ymgyrchoedd fel yr un y mae Helen wedi ei harwain hefyd, yn gallu argyhoeddi pobl. Felly, mae'n bwysig iawn dod â'r ystadegau yna i'r wyneb.
English: Thank you. Any ideas on what you would like to see happening next following the work done by Gaynor and Cadw?
Welsh: Diolch. Unrhyw syniadau ynglŷn â beth y byddech chi am ei weld nesaf ar ôl y gwaith y mae Gaynor a Cadw wedi ei wneud ar y cyd?
English: That was a general comment. I think this idea of, 'Well, put them in a museum' has been used as a panacea. Certainly, organisations such as Amgueddfa Cymru and the archives in Wales - there's a great deal of work happening to look at history that makes us uncomfortable. We don't want to coddle anyone. There are objects that could be problematic in all collections in Wales, but on occasion, if we look at Colston in Bristol, the work of recovering that statue from the harbour, to clean it for conservation, to store it, and to place it on a plinth in a museum - you're talking about hundreds of thousands of pounds. And I would say, in the case of Colston - because what happened to that statue, that is important, it has historical significance. But if you're talking about 200 statues of people that people didn't really notice until now, and we've decided we don't really like them - we don't want to create a graveyard of Lenin statues, for example. And we do need to bear in mind that attracting people is an important part of our heritage culture, and that enjoyment is an important part of people's motivation for participating. So we don't want to make people feel uncomfortable and guilty about everything. But I do take your point - we also need to challenge people to face up to these more difficult histories too.
Welsh: Sylw cyffredinol oedd hynny. Dwi'n meddwl, weithiau, mae'r syniad o, 'Rhowch nhw mewn amgueddfa' wedi cael ei ddefnyddio fel rhyw banasea. Yn sicr, mae sefydliadau fel Amgueddfa Cymru ac Archifau Cymru - mae lot o waith yn digwydd yn y fan yna i edrych ar hanes sydd yn ein gwneud ni'n anghyfforddus. Dwi ddim eisiau 'coddle-o' neb. Mae yna wrthrychau rydyn ni'n gallu problemateiddio ym mhob un casgliad yng Nghymru, ond beth dwi'n meddwl yw, weithiau, wrth i ni feddwl am rhywbeth fel Colston ym Mryste, mae'r gwaith o adfer y cerflun yna o'r harbwr, ei lanhau e i lefel cadwraeth, i'w storio fe, ac yna ei roi e ar blinth mewn amgueddfa - rydych chi'n sôn am gannoedd o filoedd o bunnoedd. Byddwn i'n dweud, yn achos Colston - achos beth ddigwyddodd i'r cerflun yna, mae hynny'n bwysig, mae hynny'n hanesyddol. Ond os ydych chi'n sôn am efallai 200 o gerfluniau o bobl doedd pobl ddim cweit yn sylwi arnyn nhw tan nawr, ond rŷn ni wedi penderfynu nad ydyn ni'n licio nhw - dŷn ni ddim eisiau creu rhyw fynwent o gerfluniau Lenin math o beth. Ac mae eisiau cofio bod atynnu pobl yn rhan bwysig o'n diwylliant treftadaeth ni, a bod mwynhad yn rhan bwysig o gymhelliad pobl i gymryd rhan. Felly dŷn ni ddim eisiau gwneud i bobl deimlo'n euog ac yn anghynnes am bopeth. Ond dwi'n cymryd y pwynt - mae eisiau i ni hefyd fod yn rhoi sialens i bobl i wynebu'r straeon mwy anodd yma hefyd.
English: There is a tendency to answer people in the language the question was asked - that's what I tend to do.
Welsh: Wel, mae tueddiad, onid oes, i ateb y person yn yr iaith maen nhw - so, dyna beth dwi'n tueddu i wneud.
English: Just to echo what I said in response to a previous question, these systems are in place already; there is no additional moral or ethical stance to take here. We have policies related to equality, dignity, conduct, anti-slavery, anti-violence against women and so on and so forth. So, I think there's plenty of paper out there already, and the principles are already put in place in those papers.
Welsh: Jest i ategu beth ddywedais i mewn ateb i gwestiwn blaenorol, mae'r cyfundrefnau yma'n bodoli'n barod; does yna ddim safiad moesol ychwanegol i'w wneud fan hyn, dwi'n meddwl. Mae gyda ni bolisïau i wneud gyda chydraddoldeb, urddas, ymddygiad, gwrth-gaethwasiaeth, gwrth-drais yn erbyn menywod ac ati. Felly, dwi'n credu bod digon o bapur yn bodoli'n barod, a bod yr egwyddorion wedi eu gosod yn rheini.
English: There is -
Welsh: Mae yna -
English: Sara, because you've had this experience that you referred to in London.
Welsh: Sara, achos chi wedi cael y profiad yma roeddech chi'n cyfeirio ato yn Llundain.
English: There is regulation in place, there are codes of ethics for working with collections - International Council of Museums, for example, working on a global level. These regimes are already in place within the heritage sector as to how this should be done, especially if you're talking about something that is legally on council land, but that someone has paid for, and you're not quite sure how to get in touch with that person's estate and what to do with their view. So, there are procedures already in place for doing this, and I would just say that we should be wary of tokenistic participation. If you are going to bring the community in, then do it in a careful way. Ask whether having this debate is going to cause more split than it will in bringing communities closer together. Because, sometimes, doing that can be slightly ad hoc to make it look as if we've consulted, and that can do more damage than actually getting rid of the statue itself.
Welsh: Mae yna reolaethau, mae yna codes of ethics ar gyfer gweithio gyda chasgliadau - mae International Council of Museums, er enghraifft, sy'n gweithio'n fyd eang. Mae yna gyfundrefnau yn bodoli o fewn y sector treftadaeth ynglŷn â sut i wneud hyn, yn enwedig os ydych chi'n sôn, efallai, am rhywbeth sydd yn gyfreithiol ar dir y cyngor, ond mae rhywun wedi talu amdano fe a dydych chi ddim cweit yn siŵr sut i gysylltu gydag ystâd y person yna a beth i wneud gyda'u barn nhw. Mae yna weithdrefnau yn bodoli'n barod ar gyfer gwneud hyn, a byddwn i jest yn gochel rhag cyfranogaeth docenistig. Os ydych chi yn mynd i ddod â'r gymuned mewn, gwnewch e mewn ffordd ofalus. Gofynnwch: a yw cynnal y drafodaeth yma'n mynd i achosi mwy o hollt, neu yw e'n mynd i ddod â rhagor o ddealltwriaeth rhwng cymunedau? Achos, weithiau, mae gwneud hynny bach yn hap a damwain er mwyn gwneud iddo fe edrych fel ein bod ni wedi ymgynghori, efallai'n gallu creu mwy o niwed na diddymu'r cerflun ei hunan.
English: It has been an extremely interesting session, and there's a great deal for us to think about. We're very grateful to you for your time. We truly appreciate the very useful information you've provided. We will be sending a transcript of this part of the meeting to you in order for you to check that it's been recorded accurately, but also as you read the transcript and you think, 'Well, I should have said this', or, 'Could I add that?', then you're more than welcome to e-mail us. And, again, with those examples that you mentioned in terms of how they've dealt with this elsewhere and any further ideas that you may have, if there are references to ways of consulting with people and drawing people in, that would be most useful indeed. So, thank you very much to the three of you for a very interesting session. Members, I'm very aware that we are running over time, but we do need to take a short break. So, I'll draw this session to a close and ask you to return by 10:40, if that's okay. So, if we can bring the broadcast to an end for a break.
Welsh: Mae wedi bod yn sesiwn hynod o ddiddorol, a lot o bethau inni feddwl amdanyn nhw. Rydyn ni'n hynod o ddiolchgar ichi am eich amser. Rydyn ni wir yn ei werthfawrogi - profiad defnyddiol iawn. Byddwn ni'n anfon trawsgrifiad o'r rhan yma o'r cyfarfod ichi er mwyn ichi sicrhau ein bod ni wedi cofnodi popeth yn gywir. Hefyd, os ydych chi'n darllen hyn ac rydych chi'n meddwl, 'Dylwn i fod wedi dweud hyn', neu, 'Allaf i ychwanegu rhywbeth?', mae croeso cynnes ichi ein e-bostio ni. Ac eto, yr enghreifftiau roeddech chi'n sôn amdanyn nhw am weithrediadau yn llefydd eraill ac unrhyw syniadau pellach sydd gennych chi, os oes yna references i ffyrdd o wneud y prosesau yma o ymgynghori â phobl a thynnu pobl i mewn mewn ffordd effeithiol, byddai hynny'n ddefnyddiol iawn i ni. Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn i'r tair ohonoch chi am sesiwn ddiddorol iawn. Aelodau, dwi'n ymwybodol iawn ein bod ni'n rhedeg dros amser, ond mae angen inni gael brêc bach. So, gwnaf i dynnu'r sesiwn yma i ben a gofyn ichi ddod nôl erbyn 10:40, os yw hynny'n iawn gyda chi. So, os gwnawn ni ddod â'r darllediad i ben nawr am y toriad.
English: Good morning once again, and welcome back to the meeting of the Senedd's Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee. We move now to item 3 on our agenda, again gathering evidence as part of our inquiry into who gets commemorated in public spaces. I'm very grateful to Councillor Cefin Campbell who is joining us this morning from Carmarthenshire County Council. Cefin has been leading a process looking into these issues at the council. So, I will just ask you to introduce yourself first of all. Tell us who you are and what your role is on the council, and then we'll move to questions.
Welsh: Bore da eto, a chroeso cynnes yn ôl i gyfarfod Pwyllgor Diwylliant, y Gymraeg a Chyfathrebu y Senedd. Dŷn ni'n symud i eitem 3 ar yr agenda, eto yn cymryd tystiolaeth ar yr ymchwiliad mewn i bwy sy'n cael eu coffáu yn ein llefydd cyhoeddus ni. Dwi'n ddiolchgar iawn i'r Cynghorydd Cefin Campbell sy'n ymuno â ni y bore yma o Gyngor Sir Gâr, ac mae Cefin wedi bod yn arwain y broses sydd yn edrych mewn i'r materion yma. So, mi wnaf i jest ofyn i ti gyflwyno dy hunan i ddechrau, Cefin, a jest dweud pwy wyt ti, a dy rôl di ar y cyngor, ac wedyn mi wnawn ni ddechrau'r cwestiynau.
English: Well, thank you very much, Chair, and thank you to the committee for inviting me to share evidence with you this morning. I am a county councillor on Carmarthenshire County Council. I'm a member of the executive board with responsibility for communities and rural affairs, and I chair a task and finish group, looking into issues around racism and discrimination, and how the BAME community in Carmarthenshire are treated.
Welsh: Wel, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi, Gadeirydd, a diolch i'r pwyllgor am fy ngwahodd i rannu tystiolaeth gyda chi y bore yma. Rwy'n gynghorydd sir ar gyngor sir Gaerfyrddin, yn aelod o'r bwrdd gweithredol gyda chyfrifoldeb am faterion gwledig a chymunedau, a dwi'n cadeirio grŵp tasg a gorffen ar hyn o bryd, sydd yn edrych i mewn i faterion yn ymwneud â hiliaeth a gwahaniaethu, a sut mae'r gymuned BAME yn sir Gaerfyrddin yn cael eu trin.
English: Thank you very much for that introduction, Cefin. Members will be asking questions on the process - other Members - but I am given to understand that you're almost ready to publish the report, and you've agreed just to tell us a little bit about what the consultation has thrown up in terms of conclusions. So, if we can start there, then I will bring Members in to discuss procedural issues.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn am y cyflwyniad yna, Cefin. Mae'r Aelodau'n mynd i ofyn cwestiynau i chi ynglŷn â'r broses - yr Aelodau eraill - ond rydw i'n deall eich bod chi bron â bod yn barod i gyhoeddi'r adroddiad, ac rwyt ti wedi cytuno i ddweud tipyn bach wrthym ni ynglŷn â beth mae'r ymgynghoriad wedi ffeindio mas, y casgliadau. So, os ydyn ni'n dechrau fanna, wedyn mi wnaf i dynnu'r Aelodau i mewn i drafod mwy o'r broses.
English: And then I'll -
Welsh: Ac wedyn mi wnaf i -
English: That's fine.
Welsh: Iawn. Perffaith.
English: Cefin, sorry to interrupt, but can you just briefly, for the record, describe what you're talking about, because it is quite striking? It's not your usual statue, is it? And perhaps many people won't be as familiar with the area as you and I perhaps are.
Welsh: Cefin, sori i dorri ar draws, ond allet ti, jest yn fyr, ddisgrifio for the record beth rwyt ti'n sôn amdano fe, achos mae'n eithaf striking? Dyw e ddim yn gerflun arferol, nag yw e? Efallai bydd lot o bobl ddim mor gyfarwydd â'r ardal â thithau a minnau.