English: Well, I'll reassure the Member that it's exactly that kind of close engagement and involvement into the future with the various Europe-wide law enforcement bodies and agencies - . It's exactly that kind of relationship that I was advocating in that ministerial forum and I and other Ministers have continued to press for in the interim period. As she says, whether it is Europol or Schengen, the SIS II system, whether it is about sharing passenger name records or criminal records, there is a multiplicity of EU-wide law enforcement and security arrangements from which we benefit at the moment, and from which exclusion will have a real impact on us and on our security. Now, of course, the ambition that the UK Government has is to negotiate the best available relationships with those organisations after Brexit. But the reality is that there are several obstacles in the path of those negotiations delivering the same level of engagement and involvement that we currently have, not least amongst them the question of the UK's data adequacy. All of this is shared data, and, as we know in this Chamber, if we become a third country, we'll have to restart a process of qualifying to access data of any sort. It's a major stumbling block. As a non-Schengen third country our access to a number of these arrangements will, even at best, be depleted. And there's a third dimension here as well, which is that many of them require a level playing field in terms of human rights protection, and losing the benefit and the shelter of the EU charter and fundamental rights may itself pose an obstacle to getting the kind of arrangements we would want to see in place in those negotiations.
Welsh: Wel, gallaf roi sicrwydd i'r Aelod mai dyna'r union fath o ymwneud ac ymgysylltu agos yr hoffem ei gael yn y dyfodol gyda'r gwahanol gyrff ac asiantaethau gorfodi'r gyfraith ledled Ewrop - . Dyna'r union fath o berthynas roeddwn yn dadlau drosti yn y fforwm gweinidogol hwnnw ac rwyf fi a Gweinidogion eraill wedi parhau i bwyso amdani yn y cyfamser. Fel y dywed, boed yn Europol neu'n Schengen, system SIS II, boed yn ymwneud â rhannu cofnodion enwau teithwyr neu gofnodion troseddol, mae llu o drefniadau gorfodi'r gyfraith a diogelwch ledled yr UE rydym yn elwa arnynt ar hyn o bryd, a bydd cael ein heithrio rhagddynt yn cael effaith wirioneddol arnom ni a'n diogelwch. Nawr, wrth gwrs, uchelgais Llywodraeth y DU yw negodi'r berthynas orau sy'n bosibl gyda'r sefydliadau hyn ar ôl Brexit. Ond y gwir amdani yw bod y negodiadau hynny'n wynebu sawl rhwystr o ran sicrhau'r un lefel o ymwneud ac ymgysylltiad ag sydd gennym ar hyn o bryd, yn enwedig y cwestiwn ynghylch digonolrwydd data'r DU. Mae hwn oll yn ddata a rennir, ac fel y gwyddom yn y Siambr hon, pe baem yn dod yn drydedd gwlad, byddai angen inni ailgychwyn proses gymhwyso er mwyn cael mynediad at ddata o unrhyw fath. Mae'n faen tramgwydd mawr. Fel trydedd gwlad nad yw'n wlad Schengen, byddai ein mynediad at nifer o'r trefniadau hyn, hyd yn oed ar y gorau, yn cael ei leihau. Ac mae trydedd agwedd i hyn hefyd, sef bod llawer ohonynt yn mynnu cyfartalwch o ran amddiffyn hawliau dynol, a gallai colli budd ac amddiffyniad siarter yr UE a hawliau sylfaenol fod yn rhwystr ynddo'i hun rhag sicrhau'r math o drefniadau y byddem am eu cael ar waith yn y negodiadau hynny.