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English: Thank you to Siân Gwenllian for bringing forward this very important subject at the Senedd today. I'd also like to thank and pay tribute to my former colleague and Member, Steffan Lewis, for the excellent work that he did in this field, shining a light on the need to ensure mental health support in the perinatal phase. Childbirth is an exciting time for many people, but it is a time that places a great deal of strain on others, and what we must ensure is that the level of service provided is sufficient and is consistent in all parts of Wales. It's clear, as we've heard from Siân this evening, that there's a lack of provision across the north of Wales in particular. I agree that the model, if it is the model we will have, of service provision over the border is the wrong one. We know that there's an ongoing conversation about provision of cross-border services, and where expertise has been rooted for many years, such as in Alder Hey hospital, of course, there is an important relationship to foster there. But this is exactly the kind of service that we could and should be providing within north Wales, and why not offer services to those from over the border to come here? The linguistic element is such an important part of it - not just giving geographical proximity, but cultural proximity, at a time when people are at their most vulnerable. So, I too call on the Deputy Minister to ensure that we don't let these women down at such an important time for them.
Welsh: Diolch i Siân am ddod â'r pwnc pwysig yma i'r Senedd heddiw. Buaswn i hefyd yn licio diolch a thalu teyrnged i'm cyn-gyfaill a chyd-Aelod, Steffan Lewis, am y gwaith rhagorol a wnaeth o yn y maes yma, yn rhoi sylw i'r angen am sicrhau gofal iechyd meddwl amenedigol o safon uchel. Mae amser genedigaeth yn amser cyffrous i lawer o bobl, ond mae'n amser sy'n rhoi straen enfawr ar eraill, a beth sydd angen ei sicrhau ydy bod y lefel o wasanaeth yn ddigonol ac yn gytbwys ym mhob rhan o Gymru. Mae'n berffaith amlwg, fel rydyn ni wedi'i glywed gan Siân heddiw yma, fod yna ddiffyg ar draws y gogledd yn benodol. Dwi'n cytuno'n llwyr bod y model, os mai dyna gawn ni, o gyflwyno'r gwasanaeth dros y ffin yn fodel anghywir. Rydyn ni'n gwybod bod yna drafodaeth sy'n barhaus ynglŷn â darparu gwasanaethau dros y ffin, a lle mae yna arbenigedd wedi'i gwreiddio ers blynyddoedd mawr, fel ysbyty Alder Hey ac ati, wrth gwrs fod yna berthynas bwysig i'w chael. Ond dyma'r union fath o wasanaeth y gallem ni ac y dylem ni fod yn ei ddarparu o fewn y gogledd, a pham lai cynnig gwasanaethau i'r rhai o dros y ffin i ddod iddyn nhw? Mae'r elfen ieithyddol yn rhan mor bwysig ohono fo - nid yn unig i roi'r agosatrwydd daearyddol, ond yr agosatrwydd diwylliant yna i bobl ar adeg pan fyddan nhw ar eu mwyaf bregus. Felly, dwi innau yn galw ar y Gweinidog i sicrhau nad ydyn ni'n gadael i lawr y merched yma ar adeg lle maen nhw'n fwyaf angen ein cymorth ni.
English: Thank you, Dirprwy Lywydd. Can I thank Siân Gwenllian for bringing forward this debate today? I know that Siân has a long-standing interest in and commitment to perinatal mental health. I'd also like to thank Jane and Rhun, who've contributed to the debate, and to recognise Rhun's acknowledgement of the role that Steffan played in raising this issue up the agenda in the Senedd. It was incredibly important. I also want to take this opportunity to restate my commitment to doing everything I can to ensure that mothers and families get the perinatal mental health support in Wales they need and deserve. As Siân knows, I chaired the Children, Young People and Education Committee's inquiry into perinatal mental health in the last Senedd. I am acutely aware of how vital perinatal mental health support is, not just for mothers, but for the babies who are in that precious first 1,000 days of their life. We know that their development in that time can be critical for their lifelong life chances. I'm also committed to ensuring the recommendations that came from the inquiry are implemented.
Welsh: Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. A gaf fi ddiolch i Siân Gwenllian am gyflwyno'r ddadl hon heddiw? Gwn fod gan Siân ddiddordeb hirsefydlog mewn iechyd meddwl amenedigol a'i bod wedi ymrwymo i'r mater. Hoffwn ddiolch hefyd i Jane a Rhun, sydd wedi cyfrannu at y ddadl, a chydnabod cydnabyddiaeth Rhun i'r rôl a chwaraeodd Steffan yn codi'r mater hwn ar yr agenda yn y Senedd. Roedd yn hynod o bwysig. Rwyf hefyd am achub ar y cyfle hwn i ailddatgan fy ymrwymiad i wneud popeth a allaf i sicrhau bod mamau a theuluoedd yn cael y gefnogaeth iechyd meddwl amenedigol y maent ei hangen ac yn ei haeddu yng Nghymru. Fel y gŵyr Siân, cadeiriais ymchwiliad y Pwyllgor Plant, Pobl Ifanc ac Addysg i iechyd meddwl amenedigol yn y Senedd ddiwethaf. Rwy'n ymwybodol iawn o ba mor hanfodol yw cymorth iechyd meddwl amenedigol, nid yn unig i famau, ond i'r babanod sydd yn y 1,000 diwrnod cyntaf gwerthfawr hynny o'u bywydau. Gwyddom y gall eu datblygiad yn yr amser hwnnw fod yn allweddol i'w cyfleoedd bywyd gydol oes. Rwyf hefyd wedi ymrwymo i sicrhau bod yr argymhellion a ddaeth o'r ymchwiliad yn cael eu gweithredu.
English: Did you look at the alternative model, which was the one that the committee recommended in the report that you chaired - the alternative model of providing the unit in Wales, and therefore the Welsh language needs would be met and it would obviously be nearer to home for many women, rather than the model that is now on offer, which is going to create a lot of problems around the linguistic needs of mothers and their families? And to be honest, Chester is a really long way from Amlwch.
Welsh: A wnaethoch chi edrych ar y model amgen, sef yr un roedd y pwyllgor yn ei argymell yn yr adroddiad a gadeiriwyd gennych - y model amgen o ddarparu'r uned yng Nghymru, ac felly byddai anghenion iaith Gymraeg yn cael eu diwallu ac yn amlwg byddai'n nes at adref i lawer o fenywod, yn hytrach na'r model sydd bellach yn cael ei gynnig, sy'n mynd i greu llawer o broblemau gydag anghenion ieithyddol mamau a'u teuluoedd? Ac i fod yn onest, mae Caer yn bell iawn o Amlwch.
English: Well, Siân, when I came into post, the plans for the unit over the border were already in train, with WHSSC having done a piece of analysis to identify the potential levels of need in north Wales. So, it was on that basis that the decision was taken to have the unit just over the border. And I know that Jane made the point about having these readily accessible services, but they are specialist services, so we would never be in a position where we'd have MBUs scattered all over the place in Wales. They're highly specialised, with multidisciplinary teams, and they serve the women who have the most acute problems - so, as Jane said, postpartum psychosis, which is incredibly serious. So, it preceded my time, the analysis of it, but that is my understanding of the work that was undertaken to identify need. And from my point of view, Siân, I want there to be a service now as quickly as we can get it, and scrapping everything that's been done would be a very lengthy process, and I want the women in north Wales to have access to a service as soon as we possibly can. I recognise that, despite the strong work that has been undertaken by services, there is more to do, and we need to make further progress to ensure that services are of the high standard that mothers in Wales deserve. This includes the work to ensure that mother and baby unit provision meets the needs of mothers in north Wales. I look forward to working together to further develop perinatal mental health services in Wales. Diolch.
Welsh: Wel, Siân, pan ddeuthum i'r swydd, roedd y cynlluniau ar gyfer yr uned dros y ffin eisoes ar y gweill, gyda Phwyllgor Gwasanaethau Iechyd Arbenigol Cymru wedi gwneud dadansoddiad i nodi'r lefelau posib o angen yng ngogledd Cymru. Felly, ar y sail honno y gwnaed y penderfyniad i gael yr uned ychydig dros y ffin. Ac rwy'n gwybod bod Jane wedi gwneud y pwynt am gael gwasanaethau hygyrch, ond maent yn wasanaethau arbenigol, felly ni fyddem byth mewn sefyllfa lle byddai gennym unedau mamau a babanod wedi'u gwasgaru ar hyd y lle yng Nghymru. Maent yn arbenigol iawn, gyda thimau amlddisgyblaethol, ac maent yn gwasanaethu'r menywod sydd â'r problemau mwyaf dwys - felly, fel y dywedodd Jane, seicosis ôl-enedigol, sy'n hynod o ddifrifol. Felly, roedd y dadansoddiad ar y gweill cyn fy amser i, ond dyna fy nealltwriaeth i o'r gwaith a wnaed i nodi angen. Ac o'm safbwynt i, Siân, rwyf am weld gwasanaeth yno nawr mor gyflym ag y gallwn ei gael, a byddai cael gwared ar bopeth sydd wedi'i wneud yn broses hir iawn, ac rwyf eisiau i'r menywod yng ngogledd Cymru gael mynediad at wasanaeth cyn gynted ag y gallwn. Er gwaetha'r gwaith cadarn a wnaed gan wasanaethau, rwy'n cydnabod bod mwy i'w wneud, ac mae angen inni wneud cynnydd pellach er mwyn sicrhau bod y gwasanaethau o'r safon uchel y mae mamau yng Nghymru'n ei haeddu. Mae hyn yn cynnwys y gwaith i sicrhau bod darpariaeth yr uned mamau a babanod yn diwallu anghenion mamau yng ngogledd Cymru. Edrychaf ymlaen at gydweithio i ddatblygu gwasanaethau iechyd meddwl amenedigol ymhellach yng Nghymru. Diolch.
English: I thank the Deputy Minister. And that brings today's proceedings to a close.
Welsh: Diolch i'r Dirprwy Weinidog. A daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben.
English: Thank you very much. Welcome and good afternoon.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Croeso a phrynhawn da.
English: Thank you, Chair. I just wanted to note paper 3.3 from the Minister, Julie James. I want to express my appreciation that she's provided us with some information, and I'll read that sentence: 'In the interest of being as open as possible with the Committee, I understand that UK Ministers are due to table further amendments to the [Social Housing (Regulation) ] Bill at House of Commons Report stage.' So, we will have to continue the legislative consent motion process. But I do appreciate that she forewarned us of that.
Welsh: Diolch, Gadeirydd. Dim ond i nodi papur rhif 3.3 gan y Gweinidog, Julie James. Dwi eisiau mynegi gwerthfawrogiad ei bod hi'n rhoi gwybodaeth i ni rhag blaen, a gwnaf i ddarllen y frawddeg hynny: 'Er mwyn bod mor agored â phosibl â'r Pwyllgor, rwyf ar ddeall y bydd Gweinidogion y DU yn cyflwyno gwelliannau pellach i'r Bil [Tai Cymdeithasol (Rheoleiddio) Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Gyfunol] yn ystod y cyfnod Adrodd yn Nhŷ'r Cyffredin.' Felly, byddwn ni'n gorfod mynd drwy'r broses a pharhau â'r broses cynnig cydsyniad deddfwriaethol unwaith eto. Ond dwi'n gwerthfawrogi ei bod hi wedi rhoi rhagrybudd i ni am hynny.