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English: Minister, I very much look forward to scrutinising this Bill at Stage 1 in the Equality and Social Justice Committee. I think it's a very exciting Bill. I wanted to look at the public procurement aspects, and particularly the reporting duties on public bodies and Welsh Ministers in relation to socially responsible procurement. I just want to query why only socially responsible procurement, because the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015 obviously isn't just about social responsibility. And as public bodies prepare to invest many millions of pounds, quite rightly, in the healthy eating habits of children as we roll out the universal free school meals programme, what role do you expect this Bill to play in ensuring that this particular additional procurement strengthens a prosperous, cohesive and resilient Wales, fundamental to the foundational economy objectives, as well as, of course, making an important contribution to a healthier Wales?
Welsh: Gweinidog, rwy'n edrych ymlaen yn fawr at graffu ar y Bil hwn yng Nghyfnod 1 yn y Pwyllgor Cydraddoldeb a Chyfiawnder Cymdeithasol. Rwyf i o'r farn ei fod yn Fil cyffrous iawn. Roeddwn i'n awyddus i ystyried yr agweddau ar gaffael cyhoeddus, a'r dyletswyddau sydd gan gyrff cyhoeddus a Gweinidogion Cymru i adrodd o ran caffael sy'n gyfrifol yn gymdeithasol yn arbennig. Fe hoffwn i holi pam mai dim ond caffael sy'n gyfrifol yn gymdeithasol yn unig, oherwydd mae'n amlwg nad yw Deddf Llesiant Cenedlaethau'r Dyfodol (Cymru) 2015 yn ymwneud â chyfrifoldeb cymdeithasol yn unig. Ac wrth i gyrff cyhoeddus baratoi i fuddsoddi miliynau lawer o bunnoedd, a hynny'n gwbl briodol, yn yr ymarfer o roi bwyd iach i blant wrth i ni gyflwyno'r rhaglen prydau ysgol am ddim i bawb, pa swyddogaeth sydd gan y Bil hwn o ran sicrhau bod y caffael ychwanegol penodol hwn yn cryfhau Cymru lewyrchus, gydlynus a chydnerth, sy'n hanfodol i amcanion sylfaenol yr economi, yn ogystal â gwneud cyfraniad pwysig i Gymru iachach, wrth gwrs?
English: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. I thank you for the statement today, Deputy Minister, and I want to completely dissociate myself from the comments of Joel James and his anti-trade-union stand, and accusing them of all sorts of unsubstantiated statements. I'm a proud member of a trade union myself. So, I do welcome this Bill. It is a key component of a wider push to make work in Wales much fairer, and it's a timely intervention too, when Tory taxes, benefit cuts and economic mismanagement are increasingly eroding pay and pensions across the board. And as always, the constructive model of social partnership here in Wales is in direct contrast with the Tories' failed confrontational approach. They're currently picking fights with rail workers as they have with teachers and junior doctors in the past. So, my question to you, Deputy Minister, is: when we're talking about procurement and social partnerships, which you are here, that we will fully engage with everybody and also, I want to reinforce the question that Mike Hedges asked previously, that anybody that benefits from public funds in Wales both looks after the staff, but more importantly, that we keep the majority of that money here in Wales as well. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. Diolch i chi am y datganiad heddiw, Dirprwy Weinidog, ac rwy'n dymuno datgysylltu fy hunan yn llwyr oddi wrth sylwadau Joel James a'i safbwynt gwrthwynebus ef o ran yr undebau llafur, gan eu cyhuddo nhw â phob math o ddatganiadau heb unrhyw sail. Rwyf i'n aelod balch o undeb llafur fy hunan. Felly, rwy'n croesawu'r Bil hwn. Dyma elfen allweddol o ymgyrch ehangach i wneud gwaith yng Nghymru yn llawer tecach, ac mae hwn yn ymyriad amserol hefyd, wrth i drethi'r Torïaid, toriadau mewn budd-daliadau a chamreoli economaidd erydu cyflogau a phensiynau yn gynyddol ym mhobman. Ac fel pob amser, mae'r model adeiladol o bartneriaeth gymdeithasol yma yng Nghymru yn gwbl groes i ddull gwrthdrawiadol aflwyddiannus y Torïaid. Ar hyn o bryd maen nhw'n ymladd gyda gweithwyr rheilffordd fel maen nhw wedi gwneud gydag athrawon a meddygon iau yn y gorffennol. Felly, fy nghwestiwn i chi, Dirprwy Weinidog, yw hwn: pan fyddwn ni'n sôn am gaffael a phartneriaethau cymdeithasol, fel gwnewch chi yma, ein bod ni'n ymgysylltu yn llawn â phawb a hefyd, fe hoffwn i atgyfnerthu'r cwestiwn a ofynnodd Mike Hedges yn gynharach, sef bod unrhyw un sy'n elwa ar arian cyhoeddus yng Nghymru i ofalu am ei staff, ond yn bwysicach na hynny, ein bod ni'n cadw'r rhan fwyaf o'r arian hwnnw yma yng Nghymru hefyd. Diolch i chi.
English: Can I thank Joyce Watson for the contribution? I know it's something you've particularly been involved with in the past, particularly within the construction sector too, in terms of tackling unjust and unfair work practices, and I know you've worked with both colleagues and me in terms of actually how to take forward codes of practice around this. This legislation seeks to strengthen the work that's gone before by, for the first time, legislating around procurement and how we strengthen not just socially responsible procurement, but going back to what we said previously around using all the levers we do have at our disposal, whilst recognising the constraints of the current devolution settlement, and using the power of the public purse to leverage, particularly in those sectors like construction and also more broadly around socially responsible procurement, which encapsulates fair work as part of that.
Welsh: A gaf i ddiolch i Joyce Watson am y cyfraniad? Rwy'n gwybod mai rhywbeth yw hwn yr ydych chi wedi bod yn ymwneud yn benodol ag ef yn y gorffennol, yn arbennig felly yn y sector adeiladu hefyd, o ran mynd i'r afael ag arferion gwaith anghyfiawn ac annheg, ac fe wn i eich bod chi wedi gweithio gyda'ch cydweithwyr a minnau o ran sut i fwrw ymlaen â chodau ymarfer yn hyn o beth. Mae'r ddeddfwriaeth hon yn ceisio cryfhau'r gwaith sydd wedi cael ei wneud o'r blaen gan, am y tro cyntaf, ddeddfu ynghylch caffael a sut yr ydym ni nid yn cryfhau caffael sy'n gyfrifol yn gymdeithasol yn unig, ond yn mynd yn ôl at yr hyn y gwnaethom ni ei ddweud yn flaenorol ynglŷn â defnyddio'r holl ddulliau sydd ar gael i ni, gan gydnabod cyfyngiadau'r setliad datganoli presennol, a defnyddio pŵer pwrs y wlad i ysgogi, yn arbennig yn y sectorau hynny fel adeiladu ac yn fwy cyffredinol hefyd o ran caffael sy'n gyfrifol yn gymdeithasol, sy'n crynhoi gwaith teg yn rhan o hynny.
English: Item 4 on the agenda is withdrawn.
Welsh: Mae eitem 4 ar yr agenda wedi ei thynnu yn ôl.
English: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. Further to ongoing concerns at Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board, many of which have been raised in this Siambr, I asked the chief executive of NHS Wales to hold an extraordinary tripartite meeting on 26 May as part of the NHS Wales escalation framework. The situation in Betsi is unacceptable and it needs serious work and effort to correct. Services are not as good as they should be, and we are determined to improve the situation for the thousands of people in north Wales who rely on these services.
Welsh: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. Yn dilyn pryderon parhaus ym Mwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Betsi Cadwaladr, y codwyd llawer ohonyn nhw yn y Siambr hon, fe ofynnais i i brif weithredwr GIG Cymru gynnal cyfarfod teirochrog neilltuol ar 26 o fis Mai yn rhan o fframwaith dwysáu GIG Cymru. Mae'r sefyllfa yn Betsi yn annerbyniol ac mae angen gwaith ac ymdrech ddifrifol arni i'w hadfer. Nid yw'r gwasanaethau cystal ag y dylen nhw fod, ac rydym ni'n benderfynol o wella'r sefyllfa i'r miloedd o bobl yn y gogledd sy'n ddibynnol ar y gwasanaethau hyn.
English: I have been generous to the Member.
Welsh: Rwyf i wedi bod yn hael wrth yr Aelod.
English: - that we need. We need that action now, sooner rather than later.
Welsh: - sydd ei angen arnom. Mae angen y gweithredu hwnnw arnom ni nawr, cyn gynted â phosibl.
English: Thank you for the statement. I fear that, however you look at this, the timing of this today doesn't reflect well on the Welsh Government. Indeed, it demonstrates once again how little understanding and how little appreciation there is within the Welsh Government of the gravity of the situation at Betsi Cadwaladr health board.
Welsh: Diolch am y datganiad. Dwi'n ofni, dim ots sut ydych chi'n edrych ar hyn, nad ydy amseru hyn heddiw ddim yn adlewyrchu'n dda ar Lywodraeth Cymru. A dweud y gwir, mae o'n dangos unwaith eto gymaint o ddiffyg dealltwriaeth a diffyg gwerthfawrogiad sydd yna yn Llywodraeth Cymru ynglŷn â difrifoldeb y sefyllfa ym mwrdd iechyd Betsi Cadwaladr.
English: This is a very weak response to an extremely serious situation, I fear - an extension of targeted intervention, rather than a real rolling up of sleeves to deal with a problem that is causing so much anguish to staff and patients across the north. An extension of targeted intervention - why end here when there are so many problems right across Betsi Cadwaladr? The problems I've brought to your attention among nurses at Ysbyty Gwynedd and the fears of bullying and intimidation and working conditions that are not up to it in terms of retaining the staff, their knowledge and experience - why not include Ysbyty Gwynedd? And in terms of the timing, which one is it? Is this yet another example of Welsh Government acting at the eleventh hour to try to take the sting out of a Senedd debate and a potentially difficult vote, acting because they have to to try to avoid embarrassment? Welsh Government does this all the time. It's a Government dragging its heels. Or is it that the Minister really failed to register the seriousness of report after report - that damning report on vascular in particular - and she decided to see how things went for another three months before deciding on the next step and if action was required, when it was pretty obvious that we needed further intervention? Government failed to act in a way that reflected the urgency of the situation.
Welsh: Mae hwn yn ymateb gwan iawn i sefyllfa eithriadol o ddifrifol, mae arnaf i ofn - ymestyn ymyrraeth wedi'i thargedu, yn hytrach na mynd i'r afael o ddifri â phroblem sy'n achosi cymaint o ofid i staff a chleifion ar draws y gogledd. Ymestyn ymyrraeth wedi'i thargedu - pam gorffen yn y fan yna pan fod cynifer o broblemau ar draws Betsi Cadwaladr? Y problemau yr wyf i wedi'u dwyn i'ch sylw ymhlith nyrsys yn Ysbyty Gwynedd a'r ofnau ynghylch bwlio a bygythiadau ac amodau gwaith nad ydyn nhw'n ddigon da o ran cadw'r staff, eu gwybodaeth a'u profiad - pam na wnewch chi gynnwys Ysbyty Gwynedd? Ac o ran yr amseru, p'un ydyw? A yw hyn yn enghraifft arall eto o Lywodraeth Cymru yn gweithredu ar yr unfed awr ar ddeg i geisio lliniaru dadl yn y Senedd a phleidlais a allai fod yn anodd, gan weithredu oherwydd bod yn rhaid iddyn nhw geisio osgoi embaras? Mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn gwneud hyn drwy'r amser. Mae'n Llywodraeth sy'n llusgo'i thraed. Ynteu ai'r Gweinidog a fethodd mewn gwirionedd â deall difrifoldeb adroddiad ar ôl adroddiad - yr adroddiad damniol hwnnw ar y gwasanaeth fasgwlaidd yn benodol - a phenderfynodd hi weld sut y byddai pethau'n mynd am dri mis arall cyn penderfynu ar y cam nesaf ac a oedd angen gweithredu, pan oedd yn eithaf amlwg bod angen ymyrraeth arall arnom ni? Methodd y Llywodraeth â gweithredu mewn ffordd a oedd yn adlewyrchu brys y sefyllfa.
English: I've had a request for a point of order. Darren Millar.
Welsh: Rwyf i wedi cael cais am bwynt o drefn. Darren Millar.
English: Thank you, Deputy Llywydd. Can I just express my concern about a remark that the Minister made suggesting that this statement has been planned for a number of weeks? I'm a member of the Business Committee. The Business Committee look at the forward work programme each time we meet. We were not notified of any changes until today in respect of this statement; it was not agreed until today. Papers were circulated yesterday to the Business Committee, confirming this change. That suggests to me that the Minister may have inadvertently misled the Senedd.
Welsh: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. A gaf i fynegi fy mhryder ynghylch sylw a wnaeth y Gweinidog yn awgrymu bod y datganiad hwn wedi'i gynllunio ers nifer o wythnosau? Rwy'n aelod o'r Pwyllgor Busnes. Mae'r Pwyllgor Busnes yn edrych ar y flaenraglen waith bob tro y byddwn ni'n cyfarfod. Ni chawsom ni wybod am unrhyw newidiadau tan heddiw o ran y datganiad hwn; ni chafodd ei gytuno arno tan heddiw. Cafodd papurau eu dosbarthu i'r Pwyllgor Busnes ddoe, gan gadarnhau'r newid hwn. Mae hynny'n awgrymu i mi y gallai'r Gweinidog fod wedi camarwain y Senedd yn anfwriadol.
English: Thank you for that point of order. I'm sure the Minister will reflect upon when the Government had decided it would introduce such a statement. Perhaps that may be an issue rather than simply the business statement. Before we move on to the -
Welsh: Diolch i chi am y pwynt o drefn yna. Rwy'n siŵr y bydd y Gweinidog yn ystyried pryd yr oedd y Llywodraeth wedi penderfynu y byddai'n cyflwyno datganiad o'r fath. Efallai fod hynny'n fater yn hytrach na'r datganiad busnes yn unig. Cyn i ni symud ymlaen at -
English: If you don't mind, I would like to respond to that.
Welsh: Os nad oes ots gennych chi, hoffwn i ymateb i hynna.
English: Minister, I will in a second. But before we move on, can I remind all other contributors of the timescales, please? We have already used up a large proportion of our time, so can everyone keep to their timescales, please? Minister.
Welsh: Gweinidog, fe wnaf i mewn eiliad. Ond cyn i ni symud ymlaen, a gaf i atgoffa'r holl gyfranwyr eraill o'r amserlen, os gwelwch yn dda? Rydym ni eisoes wedi defnyddio cyfran fawr o'n hamser, felly a wnaiff pawb gadw at eu hamserlenni, os gwelwch yn dda? Gweinidog.
English: If you don't mind, I would like to respond to that. This is a statement that we've been preparing. Clearly, I did not want to put that on any agenda until I had the opportunity to speak to the chair and the chief executive of the health board, and that happened last week. And since then, we've been working very hard since that meeting last Tuesday to put in place these measures. So, we've been working this up. You might have noticed, Darren, that, actually, there's been a four-day bank holiday, so maybe that is part of the reason why you haven't heard anything about it. [ Interruption.]
Welsh: Os nad oes ots gennych, hoffwn ymateb i hynna. Mae hwn yn ddatganiad yr ydym ni wedi bod yn ei baratoi. Yn amlwg, nid oeddwn i eisiau rhoi hynny ar unrhyw agenda nes i mi gael cyfle i siarad â chadeirydd a phrif weithredwr y bwrdd iechyd, a digwyddodd hynny yr wythnos diwethaf. Ac ers hynny, rydym ni wedi bod yn gweithio'n galed iawn ers y cyfarfod hwnnw ddydd Mawrth diwethaf i roi'r mesurau hyn ar waith. Felly, rydym ni wedi bod yn gweithio ar hyn. Efallai eich bod chi wedi sylwi, Darren, fod gŵyl banc pedwar diwrnod wedi bod, mewn gwirionedd, felly efallai fod hynny'n rhan o'r rheswm pam nad ydych chi wedi clywed dim amdano. [ Torri ar draws.]
English: The Minister has given her response - [ Interruption.] The Minister has given her response, and we will now move on to the next person. Janet Finch-Saunders.
Welsh: Mae'r Gweinidog wedi rhoi ei hymateb - [ Torri ar draws.] Mae'r Gweinidog wedi rhoi ei hymateb, a symudwn ni ymlaen nawr at y person nesaf. Janet Finch-Saunders.
English: Thank you. Whilst I thank you for the statement, Minister, I would like to thank my colleagues Darren Millar and Rhun ap Iorwerth more for actually calling you out on this statement, because it's far too inadequate. I've been here 11 years, and, prior to that, I had dealings, going back over the years, with the Betsi health board, under the late Mary Burrows, when she was the chief executive. And we've had countless numbers of chief executives since, we've had countless numbers of chairs, and we've had several health Ministers, and yet, the fundamental problem we have here is that this health board is going backwards. There are no improvements that I believe that will be forthcoming. I, like other Members, have undertaken numerous meetings with the chief exec, deputy chief exec, and listened to several statements here since first being elected in 2011. The responses to serious casework issues are abysmal -
Welsh: Diolch. Er fy mod i'n diolch i chi am y datganiad, Gweinidog, hoffwn i ddiolch yn fwy i fy nghyd-Aelodau Darren Millar a Rhun ap Iorwerth am eich herio chi ar y datganiad hwn, oherwydd mae'n rhy annigonol o lawer. Rwyf i wedi bod yma 11 mlynedd, a chyn hynny, roedd gennyf i gysylltiadau, yn mynd yn ôl dros y blynyddoedd, â bwrdd iechyd Betsi, o dan y diweddar Mary Burrows, pan oedd hi'n brif weithredwr. Ac rydym ni wedi cael prif weithredwyr di-rif ers hynny, rydym ni wedi cael cadeiryddion di-rif, ac rydym wedi cael sawl Gweinidog iechyd, ac eto, y broblem sylfaenol sydd gennym ni yma yw bod y bwrdd iechyd hwn yn mynd tuag yn ôl. Nid wyf yn credu bod unrhyw welliannau ar ddod. Rwyf i, fel Aelodau eraill, wedi cynnal nifer o gyfarfodydd gyda'r prif weithredwr, y dirprwy brif weithredwr, ac wedi gwrando ar sawl datganiad yma ers cael fy ethol gyntaf yn 2011. Mae'r ymatebion i faterion gwaith achos difrifol yn druenus -
English: You do need to ask the question. I did ask Members to be succinct.
Welsh: Mae angen i chi ofyn y cwestiwn. Gofynnais i'r Aelodau fod yn gryno.
English: Yes, I know. I've got to be honest, things are so bad, Deputy Llywydd -
Welsh: Oes, rwy'n gwybod. Mae'n rhaid i mi fod yn onest, mae pethau mor wael, Dirprwy Lywydd -
English: I will get to it. But it's a fact, and it's been raised by Plaid Cymru, the current model simply doesn't work. I asked you two weeks ago, Minister, whether we could have a meeting of north Wales Members, yourself, the chairman and the chief executive, and then we could have some full and frank discussions. Will you now agree to that meeting, please? That's all I have to ask.
Welsh: Fe wnaf i ddod ato. Ond mae'n ffaith, ac mae Plaid Cymru wedi'i godi, nid yw'r model presennol yn gweithio. Gofynnais i chi bythefnos yn ôl, Gweinidog, a allem ni gael cyfarfod o Aelodau'r gogledd, chi, y cadeirydd a'r prif weithredwr, ac yna gallem ni gael trafodaethau llawn a diffuant. A wnewch chi gytuno'n awr i'r cyfarfod hwnnw, os gwelwch yn dda? Dyna'r cyfan sydd gennyf i'w ofyn.
English: Yes, I'm happy to have that meeting.
Welsh: Ydw, rwy'n hapus i gael y cyfarfod hwnnw.
English: Well, if we need any proof, this statement, in my view, shows that the Welsh Government is going round and round in circles on Betsi Cadwaladr. You're tinkering with the symptoms rather than fundamentally tackling the illness that is stifling services in north Wales.
Welsh: Wel, os oes angen prawf, mae'r datganiad yma, yn fy marn i, yn dangos bod Llywodraeth Cymru yn mynd rownd a rownd mewn cylchoedd ar Betsi Cadwaladr. Rŷch chi'n tincro gyda'r symptomau yn lle mynd i'r afael yn fwy sylfaenol â'r salwch sy'n llethu gwasanaethau ar draws y gogledd.
English: How many times have we been here before on Betsi Cadwaladr, Minister? How many times do we have to come here, and, quite frankly, listen to your cut-and-paste statements about more targeted interventions, more new directors, more tripartite meetings? You're like a broken record. It's a statement that you and your predecessors have made in various forms time after time, month after month, for the best part of the last decade. Front-line workers in north Wales are doing heroic work, but their Government is fiddling whilst Rome burns. Will you accept that the time has now come for a more fundamental consideration of how services are configured across north Wales? And, look, if the conclusion is that this current model is the best that we can be, then so be it - I'll accept that. But until you as a Government instigate that discussion, then you will have to be dragged back to this Chamber month after month, to give us more of the same excuses and more of the same guff.
Welsh: Sawl gwaith ydym ni wedi bod yma o'r blaen o ran Betsi Cadwaladr, Gweinidog? Sawl gwaith y mae'n rhaid i ni ddod yma, ac, a dweud y gwir, gwrando ar eich datganiadau torri a gludo am ymyraethau mwy penodol, mwy o gyfarwyddwyr newydd, mwy o gyfarfodydd teirochrog? Rydych chi fel record wedi torri. Mae'n ddatganiad yr ydych chi a'ch rhagflaenwyr wedi'i wneud ar wahanol ffurfiau dro ar ôl tro, fis ar ôl mis, am y rhan fwyaf o'r degawd diwethaf. Mae gweithwyr rheng flaen yn y gogledd yn gwneud gwaith arwrol, ond mae eu Llywodraeth yn poeni am fanion wrth i ni wynebu argyfwng. A wnewch chi dderbyn bod yr amser wedi dod nawr i ystyried yn fwy sylfaenol sut y caiff gwasanaethau eu cyflunio ledled y gogledd? Ac, edrychwch, os y casgliad yw mai'r model presennol hwn yw'r gorau y gallwn ni fod, yna boed felly - fe wnaf i dderbyn hynny. Ond tan i chi fel Llywodraeth gychwyn y drafodaeth honno, yna bydd yn rhaid i chi gael eich llusgo'n ôl i'r Siambr hon fis ar ôl mis, i roi mwy o'r un esgusodion a mwy o'r un rwtsh i ni.
English: I believe that reorganisation at this point would be costly, it would be a distraction from the significant issues in relation to planned care, it would divert resources, and my focus at the moment is on patient care. There is nothing 'cut and paste' about this statement; I can assure you I've spent a lot of time working on it. I think that I will retain my focus, as I'm sure the board will, on ensuring that we are doing the very best for the people of north Wales, and a costly reorganisation is not the answer.
Welsh: Rwy'n credu y byddai ad-drefnu ar hyn o bryd yn gostus, byddai'n tynnu sylw oddi wrth y materion pwysig sy'n ymwneud â gofal wedi'i gynllunio, byddai'n dargyfeirio adnoddau, ac mae fy ffocws ar hyn o bryd ar ofal cleifion. Nid oes dim byd wedi'i 'dorri a'i gludo' ynghylch y datganiad hwn; gallaf i eich sicrhau chi fy mod i wedi treulio llawer o amser yn gweithio arno. Rwy'n credu y byddaf i'n parhau i ganolbwyntio, fel y gwnaiff y bwrdd, rwy'n siŵr, ar sicrhau ein bod ni'n gwneud y gorau dros bobl y gogledd, ac nid ad-drefnu costus yw'r ateb.