English: I'm not a member of the committee, but I'm very interested in this issue and I'd like to congratulate you for taking on this particular inquiry, because I think it's absolutely vitally important. Obviously, because of all the recent news of unaccompanied children arriving in the UK, I think that is one of the issues that's foremost in our minds. I was very dismayed this morning - other Members may have heard it - on the Radio 4 programme, when there was a debate going on about whether the unaccompanied children who were arriving were over 18 or not, and there were talks of dental scans and bone scans to try to identify whether they were children or not. It just seemed to me that we know that these young people who are arriving are traumatised, we know that they have lost family and it seems to me that this is an incredibly awful way to start the debate of them coming. So, I wondered if the committee was going to look at some of the attitudes that there are around - whether there was any way of looking at people's views of refugees. Because, I suppose, when you think of a child refugee, people think of a small child, and we that know most of them are teenagers - teenage boys. I was just very shocked at that, so I hope the committee will take that on board. Bearing in mind that many of these children and young people will be traumatised, they will need access to counselling and post-traumatic stress treatment, and I hope the committee will be looking into that as well. Yesterday, I was at the Radio Wales and BBC World Service programme over in the Pierhead - I think others were there - and one of the speakers who came from Syria six years ago made the point that people who come from Syria, his fellow countrymen and women, aren't unskilled, on the whole. They are mainly doctors, teachers, architects and engineers - they were the professions that he listed - and they're very keen to work, because when you don't work, very often you do lose your sense of self-esteem and you do lose the sense that you are contributing to the community. Also, he did say, if you work in a community and that community extends the hand of friendship to you, you're loyal to that community in the future, because of what it's done to you. So, in terms of the Syrian resettlement scheme, I wondered if the committee could look at what opportunities for work there would be available, because we do know that, under the vulnerable persons resettlement scheme, refugees will be allowed to work for five years, but that is not actually true of other refugees and asylum seekers in the UK. Over the years, I've met many, many asylum seekers, as the rest of us have, who are - well, the meaning of their life is gone, because they are unable to work. So, I think many of the people who come in on the Syrian scheme will actually have a lot of attention and support, but I wonder if the committee could bear in mind as well that there are other asylum seekers who are here who do not have that type of support that the Syrian scheme will have, which I applaud, and we want to do all we can to help them. But there are other people there, and there are people who are destitute who are asylum seekers and who are seeking jobs in this country and who are actually on the streets in Cardiff. There was a sleep-out last weekend to note the fact that there are homeless, destitute people on the streets in Cardiff. Finally, the last point I wanted to make was: I know that we talk about the resources that are needed to be put into the communities to help refugees settle and integrate, and I do believe that very strongly - we need to do that - but I also think that we must recognise the strengths that those families bring. I'm particularly thinking in terms of schools, because in Cathays High School in my constituency, where a lot of asylum-seeking children and economic migrants, as we call them, are, there are 63 different languages spoken and children from many different communities, including Somali, Czech, Slovak, Roma, Bangladeshi, Pakistani - you can go on listing where they come from. All the staff and the school say that they bring enormous energy to the school, they really enrich the school, the parents are so keen for the children to succeed because many of them have gone to many great lengths to get to this country, and I think, as part of your report, it would be good to see some of that enormous enrichment that it's brought to this country.
Welsh: Nid wyf yn aelod o'r pwyllgor, ond mae gennyf ddiddordeb mawr yn y mater hwn a hoffwn eich llongyfarch am ymgymryd â'r ymchwiliad penodol hwn, gan fy mod yn credu ei fod yn hanfodol bwysig. Yn amlwg, oherwydd yr holl newyddion diweddar ynglŷn â phlant ar eu pen eu hunain yn cyrraedd y DU, credaf fod hwnnw'n un o'r materion sydd ar flaen ein meddyliau. Roeddwn yn siomedig iawn y bore yma - efallai fod Aelodau eraill wedi'i glywed, ar y rhaglen ar Radio 4, a oedd yn cynnwys dadl ynglŷn ag a yw'r plant ar eu pennau eu hunain sy'n cyrraedd dros 18 oed ai peidio, ac roedd sôn am sganiau deintyddol a sganiau esgyrn i geisio canfod a ydynt yn blant ai peidio. Roedd yn ymddangos i mi ein bod yn ymwybodol fod y bobl ifanc sy'n cyrraedd wedi dioddef trawma, a'n bod yn gwybod eu bod wedi colli eu teuluoedd ac ymddengys i mi fod hyn yn ffordd ofnadwy o gychwyn y drafodaeth ynglŷn â'r bobl hyn yn cyrraedd yma. Felly, roeddwn i'n meddwl tybed a oedd y pwyllgor yn mynd i edrych ar rai o'r agweddau sy'n bodoli - a oes unrhyw ffordd o edrych ar agweddau pobl at ffoaduriaid. Oherwydd, am wn i, pan fyddwch yn meddwl am ffoadur sy'n blentyn, bydd pobl yn meddwl am blentyn ifanc, a gwyddom fod y rhan fwyaf ohonynt yn eu harddegau - yn fechgyn yn eu harddegau. Parodd hynny gryn sioc i mi, felly gobeithiaf y bydd y pwyllgor yn ystyried hynny. Gan gofio y bydd llawer o'r plant a'r bobl ifanc hyn wedi dioddef trawma, byddant angen mynediad at wasanaeth cwnsela a thriniaeth ar gyfer straen wedi trawma, a gobeithiaf y bydd y pwyllgor yn edrych ar hynny hefyd. Ddoe, roeddwn gyda'r rhaglen Radio Wales a'r BBC World Service yn y Pierhead - credaf fod eraill yno hefyd - a gwnaed pwynt gan un o'r siaradwyr a ddaeth o Syria chwe blynedd yn ôl nad yw pobl sy'n dod o Syria, ei gydwladwyr, yn bobl heb sgiliau ar y cyfan. At ei gilydd, maent yn feddygon, athrawon, penseiri a pheirianwyr - dyna'r proffesiynau a restrwyd ganddo - ac maent yn awyddus iawn i weithio, oherwydd pan na fyddwch yn gweithio, yn aml iawn rydych yn colli eich hunan-barch ac yn colli'r teimlad eich bod yn cyfrannu at y gymuned. Dywedodd hefyd, os ydych yn gweithio mewn cymuned a bod y gymuned honno'n cynnig cyfeillgarwch i chi, fe fyddwch yn ffyddlon i'r gymuned honno yn y dyfodol, oherwydd yr hyn y mae wedi ei wneud i chi. Felly, o ran y cynllun i adsefydlu pobl o Syria, roeddwn i'n meddwl tybed a allai'r pwyllgor ystyried pa gyfleoedd i weithio a fyddai ar gael, gan y gwyddom, o dan y cynllun i adsefydlu pobl sy'n agored i niwed, y bydd ffoaduriaid yn cael caniatâd i weithio am bum mlynedd, ond nid yw hynny'n wir mewn gwirionedd ar gyfer ffoaduriaid a cheiswyr lloches eraill yn y DU. Dros y blynyddoedd, rwyf fi, fel pawb arall yma, wedi cyfarfod â nifer fawr o geiswyr lloches sydd - wel, heb ystyr i'w bywydau gan nad ydynt yn gallu gweithio. Felly, credaf y bydd llawer o'r bobl a ddaw yma o dan gynllun Syria yn cael llawer o sylw a chymorth, ond tybed a fyddai modd i'r pwyllgor gofio hefyd fod yna geiswyr lloches eraill yma heb y math o gefnogaeth y bydd cynllun Syria yn ei chynnig, cynllun rwy'n ei gymeradwyo, a'n bod yn dymuno gwneud popeth a allwn i'w helpu. Ond mae pobl eraill yno hefyd, ac mae yna bobl amddifad sy'n geiswyr lloches ac sy'n chwilio am swyddi yn y wlad hon ac sydd ar y strydoedd yng Nghaerdydd. Cafwyd noson o gysgu ar y stryd y penwythnos diwethaf i nodi'r ffaith fod pobl ddigartref ac anghenus ar y strydoedd yng Nghaerdydd. I gloi, y pwynt olaf rwyf am ei wneud yw hwn: gwn ein bod yn siarad am yr adnoddau sydd angen eu rhoi i'r cymunedau i helpu ffoaduriaid i setlo ac integreiddio, a chredaf hynny'n gryf iawn - mae angen i ni wneud hynny - ond credaf hefyd fod yn rhaid i ni gydnabod cryfderau'r teuluoedd hynny. Rwy'n meddwl yn benodol am ysgolion, oherwydd yn Ysgol Uwchradd Cathays yn fy etholaeth i, lle y ceir llawer o blant sy'n ceisio lloches ac ymfudwyr economaidd, fel rydym yn eu galw, mae 63 o wahanol ieithoedd yn cael eu siarad ac mae yno blant o lawer o gymunedau gwahanol, gan gynnwys cymunedau Somalïaidd, Tsiecaidd, Slofacaidd, Roma, Bangladeshaidd, Pacistanaidd - gallwch barhau i restru o ble y maent yn dod. Mae'r holl staff a'r ysgol yn dweud eu bod yn dod ag egni anferthol i'r ysgol, eu bod yn wirioneddol gyfoethogi'r ysgol, a bod y rhieni yn awyddus iawn i'r plant lwyddo gan fod llawer ohonynt wedi mynd i lawer o drafferth i gyrraedd y wlad hon, a chredaf, yn rhan o'ch adroddiad, y byddai'n dda gweld peth o'r cyfoeth enfawr sydd wedi dod i'r wlad hon.