English: Well, we're talking about the devolution of the police to Wales, and there is much discussion to be had about that. This discussion is about the concept, the principle of aligning that as a collective of this Assembly. The First Minister has been quite clear that we believe, alongside our police and crime commissioners here in Wales already, in providing a space of planning in order for devolution to come at the appropriate time by the Government that wishes to do that. The other sense of irony was that the Conservative Party also opposed this principle, yet Nick Bourne, who stood on the Silk Commission, endorsed the principles of Silk - an honourable Conservative Member. So, I'm again surprised that the Member wishes to speak out against him also. I'll pick up the UKIP contribution. He started off with the comments that it was an important issue - a very important issue - 'but we don't have a firm view on this'. He then continued to argue against the whole case for making this, which gave me some doubt on his coherence of the concept of devolution. He doubts the funding formula that Steffan Lewis put forward very strongly. This is one of the Members who argued about £340 million for NHS spend in Brexit - and then can't get his head round the fact of devolution and the Barnett formula for police spending here in Wales. I'd urge the Member just to do a little bit more research on that issue, if he may. Llywydd, as I said earlier, the Government have been very clear on this. I also, to finish, must pay tribute to the operational staff on the ground - the unsung heroes and heroines who work behind the scenes. They are all willing to go beyond the call of duty to keep our communities safe, and I wish to thank them on behalf of the Government and this Assembly. No-one should forget how much we owe to their goodwill and dedication. There are also lots of issues around funding, which will have to be considered for the future, but I can give the assurance and clarity from this Government's position: that we are keen to devolve policing to this institution.
Welsh: Wel, rydym yn sôn am ddatganoli'r heddlu i Gymru, ac mae llawer o drafodaethau i'w cael am hynny. Mae'r drafodaeth yn ymwneud â'r cysyniad, yr egwyddor o alinio hynny fel gwaith ar y cyd i'r Cynulliad hwn. Mae'r Prif Weinidog wedi bod yn eithaf clir ein bod yn credu, ochr yn ochr â'r comisiynwyr heddlu a throseddu sydd gennym yma yng Nghymru eisoes, mewn darparu gofod yn y cynlluniau er mwyn i ddatganoli ddod ar yr adeg briodol i'r Llywodraeth sy'n dymuno gwneud hynny. Yr eironi arall oedd bod y Blaid Geidwadol hefyd yn gwrthwynebu'r egwyddor hon, ac eto roedd Nick Bourne, a oedd yn aelod o Gomisiwn Silk, yn cymeradwyo egwyddorion Silk - Aelod Ceidwadol anrhydeddus. Felly, unwaith eto, rwy'n synnu bod yr Aelod yn dymuno siarad yn ei erbyn ef hefyd. Rwyf am nodi cyfraniad UKIP. Dechreuodd gyda'r sylwadau fod y mater yn un pwysig - yn fater pwysig iawn - 'ond nid oes gennym safbwynt cadarn ar hyn'. Yna parhaodd i ddadlau yn erbyn yr achos dros wneud hyn, a pharodd hynny i mi amau cysondeb ei ddadl ar y cysyniad o ddatganoli. Mae'n amau'r fformiwla ariannu a gyflwynodd Steffan Lewis yn gryf iawn. Dyma un o'r Aelodau a ddadleuodd ynglŷn â £340 miliwn i'r GIG ei wario drwy Brexit - ac yna ni all ddeall y cysyniad o ddatganoli a'r fformiwla Barnett ar gyfer gwariant yr heddlu yma yng Nghymru. Byddwn yn annog yr Aelod i wneud ychydig bach mwy o waith ymchwil ar y mater, os gall. Llywydd, fel y dywedais yn gynharach, mae'r Llywodraeth wedi bod yn glir iawn ar hyn. I gloi, mae'n rhaid i mi hefyd dalu teyrnged i'r staff gweithredol ar lawr gwlad - yr arwyr ac arwresau di-glod sy'n gweithio y tu ôl i'r llenni. Maent i gyd yn barod i fynd y tu hwnt i'w dyletswyddau i gadw ein cymunedau'n ddiogel, a hoffwn ddiolch iddynt ar ran y Llywodraeth a'r Cynulliad hwn. Ni ddylai unrhyw un anghofio faint ein dyled iddynt am eu hewyllys da a'u hymroddiad. Mae yna lawer o faterion yn ymwneud â chyllid hefyd, y bydd yn rhaid eu hystyried ar gyfer y dyfodol, ond gallaf roi sicrwydd ac eglurder gan y Llywodraeth hon: ein bod yn awyddus i ddatganoli plismona i'r sefydliad hwn.