English: First of all, can I thank the Minister for her statement and welcome the second supplementary budget? I just want to make two very brief points, both following on from things that have been said earlier. On 3 February, the UK Government announced measures to help with the cost of living in light of the rise in the energy price cap. This included £150 council tax rebate from April 2022 for households in England that are in council bands A to D. The UK Government announcement stated that the Welsh Government would receive £175 million in consequential funding as a result of this decision, noting that the devolved administration would be able to choose whether to spend this funding this year or next year. On 9 February, the First Minister stated that Wales would not receive any additional funding as a result of this decision. In response, the Chief Secretary to the Treasury reported this was not the case and that Welsh Government would receive £180 million of Barnett consequentials as a result of the council tax rebate. Transparency is required on the amounts received from UK Government, including whether they relate to new money or not. The issues surrounding the consequential funding received by the Welsh Government in light of the council tax rebate announced in England is a very good case in point. What both the Welsh Government and the Westminster Government have in common is an unwillingness to show their calculations. Without calculations, it's not possible for the Finance Committee or Senedd to know who is correct. Whilst I will believe the Welsh Government, and others in here will believe the Westminster Government, no-one has the facts to support them. I'm sure I'm getting boring saying this to Welsh Government Ministers, as I was in my previous job to my students: 'Show your working; show how you reach these figures.' I share the committee's disappointment that the Minister continues to face difficulties in obtaining timely and accurate information from the Treasury about changes to the Welsh Government budget, and a particular difficulty can be experienced by the Minister towards the end of the financial year. Despite over 20 years of devolution, the Treasury still appears to treat the devolved Government as another Westminster spending department, and I think there's an incredible lack of respect from the Treasury on this. The second point I want to raise is related to the first. We don't get a Barnett consequential on HS2, because rail is not devolved, and that does not generate a consequential for the Welsh budget. If, however, it was treated as transport, we would get a consequential, because transport is partially devolved. This leads to my major concern: in-year movement of money between Government departments from, for example, non-devolved areas to areas that are devolved, e.g. foreign affairs to health, in order to balance the budget; how do we know we get what we should be getting? I understand the Welsh Government civil service believes the Treasury, who are reallocating money, ensures the devolved Governments get their correct share. Unfortunately, I am less trusting; I would like to see the figures - returning again to my, 'Show your workings.' Finally, when money is written off, like the health board overspends in England from the English health budget, I'd like to see how that money got into the English health budget. Because what we actually had as a situation was that the English health budget was under huge pressure, they had all these overspends, and, all of a sudden, one year, when we didn't appear to have a very large increase, they seemed to have enough money given to them in order to write off several years' worth of overspends, and so I just want to see the workings. I'm not saying people are wrong, but I think there is a bit of opaqueness in this, and I think it would be of benefit to everybody, especially Members of the Senedd and Members of Parliament, to actually see the numbers, and then we could have a more informed debate.
Welsh: Yn gyntaf, a gaf i ddiolch i'r Gweinidog am ei datganiad a chroesawu'r ail gyllideb atodol? Hoffwn i wneud dau bwynt byr iawn, a'r ddau yn dilyn pethau sydd wedi eu dweud yn gynharach. Ar 3 Chwefror, cyhoeddodd Llywodraeth y DU fesurau i helpu gyda chostau byw yng ngoleuni'r cynnydd yn y terfyn uchaf ar brisiau ynni. Roedd hyn yn cynnwys ad-daliad treth gyngor o £150 o fis Ebrill 2022 ymlaen ar gyfer aelwydydd yn Lloegr sydd ym mandiau cyngor A i D. Nododd cyhoeddiad Llywodraeth y DU y byddai Llywodraeth Cymru yn cael £175 miliwn o gyllid canlyniadol o ganlyniad i'r penderfyniad hwn, gan nodi y byddai'r weinyddiaeth ddatganoledig yn gallu dewis gwario'r arian hwn eleni neu'r flwyddyn nesaf. Ar 9 Chwefror, dywedodd y Prif Weinidog na fyddai Cymru'n cael unrhyw arian ychwanegol o ganlyniad i'r penderfyniad hwn. Mewn ymateb, adroddodd Prif Ysgrifennydd y Trysorlys nad oedd hyn yn wir ac y byddai Llywodraeth Cymru yn cael £180 miliwn o symiau canlyniadol Barnett o ganlyniad i ad-daliad y dreth gyngor. Mae angen tryloywder o ran y symiau yr ydym yn eu cael gan Lywodraeth y DU, gan gynnwys a ydyn nhw'n ymwneud ag arian newydd ai peidio. Mae'r materion sy'n ymwneud â'r cyllid canlyniadol a gafodd Llywodraeth Cymru yng ngoleuni'r ad-daliad treth gyngor a gyhoeddwyd yn Lloegr yn enghraifft dda iawn. Yr hyn sy'n gyffredin i Lywodraeth Cymru a Llywodraeth San Steffan yw amharodrwydd i ddangos eu gwaith cyfrifo. Heb y gwaith cyfrifo, nid yw'n bosibl i'r Pwyllgor Cyllid na'r Senedd wybod pwy sy'n gywir. Er y byddaf i'n credu Llywodraeth Cymru, ac y bydd eraill yn y lle hwn yn credu Llywodraeth San Steffan, nid oes gan neb y ffeithiau i'w cefnogi. Rwy'n siŵr fy mod i'n eich diflasu wrth ddweud hyn wrth Weinidogion Llywodraeth Cymru, fel yr oeddwn i'n ei wneud yn fy swydd flaenorol i fy myfyrwyr: 'Dangoswch eich gwaith cyfrifo; dangoswch sut yr ydych yn cyrraedd y ffigurau hyn.' Rwy'n rhannu siom y pwyllgor bod y Gweinidog yn parhau i wynebu anawsterau o ran cael gwybodaeth amserol a chywir gan y Trysorlys am newidiadau i gyllideb Llywodraeth Cymru, a gall y Gweinidog wynebu anhawster arbennig tua diwedd y flwyddyn ariannol. Er gwaethaf dros 20 mlynedd o ddatganoli, mae'n ymddangos bod y Trysorlys yn dal i drin y Llywodraeth ddatganoledig fel adran arall o wariant San Steffan, ac rwy'n credu bod diffyg parch anhygoel gan y Trysorlys ynghylch hyn. Mae'r ail bwynt yr hoffwn i ei godi yn gysylltiedig â'r cyntaf. Nid ydym yn cael swm canlyniadol Barnett ar HS2, gan nad yw'r rheilffyrdd wedi eu datganoli, ac nid yw hynny'n arwain at swm canlyniadol i gyllideb Cymru. Fodd bynnag, pe bai'n cael ei drin fel trafnidiaeth, byddem yn cael swm canlyniadol, gan fod trafnidiaeth wedi ei datganoli'n rhannol. Mae hyn yn arwain at fy mhryder mawr: symud arian yn ystod y flwyddyn rhwng adrannau'r Llywodraeth, er enghraifft o feysydd nad ydyn nhw wedi eu datganoli i feysydd sydd wedi eu datganoli, e.e. materion tramor i iechyd, er mwyn cydbwyso'r gyllideb; sut ydym ni'n gwybod ein bod ni'n cael yr hyn y dylem ni fod yn ei gael? Rwy'n deall bod gwasanaeth sifil Llywodraeth Cymru yn credu bod y Trysorlys, sy'n ailddyrannu arian, yn sicrhau bod y Llywodraethau datganoledig yn cael eu cyfran gywir. Yn anffodus, mae gen i lai o ymddiriedaeth ynddyn nhw; hoffwn i weld y ffigurau - gan ddychwelyd eto at fy mhwynt, 'Dangoswch eich gwaith cyfrifo.' Yn olaf, pan gaiff arian ei ddileu, fel gorwariant byrddau iechyd yn Lloegr o gyllideb iechyd Lloegr, hoffwn i weld sut y gwnaeth yr arian hwnnw gyrraedd cyllideb iechyd Lloegr. Oherwydd y sefyllfa a oedd gennym ni mewn gwirionedd oedd bod cyllideb iechyd Lloegr o dan bwysau enfawr, roedd ganddyn nhw'r holl orwariant hwn, ac, yn sydyn, un flwyddyn, pan nad oedd hi'n ymddangos ein bod ni wedi cael cynnydd mawr iawn, roedd yn ymddangos fel bod digon o arian wedi ei roi iddyn nhw er mwyn dileu gwerth sawl blwyddyn o orwariant, ac felly hoffwn i weld y gwaith cyfrifo. Nid wyf i'n dweud bod pobl yn anghywir, ond rwy'n credu bod ychydig o anhryloywder yn hyn o beth, ac rwy'n credu y byddai o fudd i bawb, yn enwedig Aelodau'r Senedd ac Aelodau Seneddol, weld y rhifau gwirioneddol, ac yna gallem ni gael dadl fwy gwybodus.