English: There are two broad points that I'd make in response to the Member. The first is that I completely agree with him - I think that's the best use of the whole system. Neath Port Talbot Hospital is a good example of a minor injuries unit where people sometimes underestimate the range of services that are available. There's often easier transport than going to either the Princess of Wales or indeed to Morriston, and there is often a much shorter wait as well. Actually, making available publicly some of the tracker times about how fast you're likely to be seen has been helpful in diverting people to those areas. There's also, of course, the job of the ambulance service to work together with the health board and make sure they take people to the appropriate setting. On your second point about beds across the system, there is a challenge here, and I know you've set out both in private and in this place your view on the previous exercise undertaken by the health board, but it's actually about capacity across the whole system. Because what's been really interesting for me in meeting with lots of emergency department clinicians is they do have a view on capacity within the hospital system, but they actually have a view about flow within the hospital part of the system and in and out of the hospital setting itself as well. I think it's really important to set out not just what happens with a number of the beds within one part of our health and care system, but actually to be sure that it's a joint plan between health and social care about how capacity is going to be met. Because often the right place to treat someone is not in a hospital bed - it's often somewhere else, but you need to plan for that and not simply talk about it. When reducing capacity in one part, if you haven't then also planned to increase and improve capacity in another part of our wider health and care system - . That is a conversation I've had this morning with a range of local authority members.
Welsh: Mae dau bwynt cyffredinol yr hoffwn eu gwneud mewn ymateb i'r Aelod. Y cyntaf yw fy mod yn cytuno'n llwyr ag ef - credaf mai dyna yw'r defnydd gorau o'r system gyfan. Mae ysbyty Castell-nedd Port Talbot yn enghraifft dda o uned mân anafiadau lle y mae pobl weithiau'n tanbrisio'r ystod o wasanaethau sydd ar gael. Mae'n aml yn haws teithio yno na theithio i Ysbyty Tywysoges Cymru neu, yn wir, i Dreforys, ac mae'r amser aros yn aml yn llawer byrrach hefyd. Mewn gwirionedd, mae cyhoeddi rhai o'r amseroedd aros sy'n dangos pa mor gyflym rydych yn debygol o gael eich gweld wedi helpu i gyfeirio pobl i'r mannau hynny. Yn ogystal â hynny, wrth gwrs, mae gwaith y gwasanaeth ambiwlans yn gweithio gyda'r bwrdd iechyd i sicrhau eu bod yn mynd â phobl i'r lleoliad priodol. Ar eich ail bwynt ynglŷn â gwelyau ar draws y system, mae yna her yma, a gwn eich bod wedi nodi eich barn, yn breifat ac yn y lle hwn, ar yr ymarfer blaenorol a gynhaliwyd gan y bwrdd iechyd, ond mae'n ymwneud â chapasiti ar draws y system gyfan mewn gwirionedd. Oherwydd yr hyn sydd wedi bod yn ddiddorol iawn i mi, wrth gyfarfod â llawer o glinigwyr adrannau damweiniau ac achosion brys, yw'r ffaith bod ganddynt farn ar gapasiti o fewn system yr ysbyty, a barn hefyd mewn gwirionedd ar lif cleifion o fewn rhan yr ysbyty o'r system ac i mewn ac allan o leoliad yr ysbyty ei hun hefyd. Credaf ei bod yn wirioneddol bwysig nodi nid yn unig yr hyn sy'n digwydd gyda nifer o'r gwelyau mewn un rhan o'n system iechyd a gofal, ond i sicrhau hefyd ei fod yn gynllun ar y cyd rhwng iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol o ran sut i ddiwallu capasiti. Oherwydd, yn aml, nid gwely ysbyty yw'r man cywir ar gyfer trin claf - dylent gael eu trin yn rhywle arall yn aml, ond mae angen i chi gynllunio ar gyfer hynny yn hytrach na siarad am y peth yn unig. Wrth leihau capasiti mewn un rhan, os nad ydych wedi cynllunio hefyd i gynyddu a gwella capasiti mewn rhan arall o'n system iechyd a gofal ehangach - . Mae honno'n sgwrs a gefais y bore yma gydag amryw o aelodau awdurdodau lleol.