English: This has been a very interesting debate and I've learned quite a lot from the speeches that have been made on all sides of this Chamber. I'm very pleased, on behalf of my party, to support the Plaid Cymru motion today. I was very pleased to hear the note of optimism that Dai Lloyd struck a moment ago and the point he made about the connection between Welsh and the Basque language and Hebrew and the way the situation has been turned around in those two other cases. It gives us a great deal of hope for Wales as well. We've certainly come a long way from 'Brad y Llyfrau Gleision', when it was the policy of the Government of the day to try and wipe the language out. Today, fortunately, we have a completely different attitude. I'm surprised, actually, that the Government has sought to amend this motion in the way that it has because there is a consensus around the house that we should support the aims of the Welsh Government. I think it is a noble endeavour that they've engaged in to have this aspiration for 1 million Welsh speakers by 2050, and I think we should acknowledge that the Welsh Government has made a huge contribution towards turning the language situation around. I think, in the form of the current Minister, as I've said before, there is nobody better suited to drive this measure through. So, I don't think the Government needs to be defensive in any way and I don't see point 2 in this motion as being critical of the Government. I think Plaid Cymru probably deliberately decided not to introduce a note of confrontation into this debate in order to encourage the consensus that we all need to show towards the outside world. If it hadn't been for the Government wanting to delete that pure statement of fact in point 2, then we could all engage in this debate on a note of complete agreement. So, it's regrettable therefore that this debating point type of approach has been adopted. But I think we're all agreed on what we want to achieve and so there's no disagreement there. I think what Llyr Gruffydd said in his opening speech today was right. We all acknowledge the enormity of the task to achieve 1 million Welsh speakers by 2050. It may be more of an aspiration than a reality, in a sense, but I think if we can make significant strides towards achieving that, then that in itself would be well worth doing. It does require the change of attitude that he described, about promoting the use of Welsh. I think we all have, as individuals, to do our bit in that respect. I'm struggling my way through the learning books at the minute because I didn't have the great advantage of Dai Lloyd and others of growing up in a Welsh-speaking household - neither of my parents spoke Welsh. We lived in Monmouthshire, which was monoglot English at that time, until I was 11 years old, then moved to Carmarthenshire. I was 11 before I had any instruction in Welsh at all. Two years later, I had to choose between Welsh and German and I opted for German. So, in the course of my school career, I learnt French and German and Russian, and I did German and Russian at university as well, but unfortunately I didn't take the opportunity to use Welsh when I had it. But I'm pleased to say -
Welsh: Mae hon wedi bod yn ddadl ddiddorol iawn ac rwyf wedi dysgu cryn dipyn o'r areithiau a wnaed ar bob ochr i'r Siambr. Rwy'n falch iawn, ar ran fy mhlaid, o gefnogi cynnig Plaid Cymru heddiw. Roeddwn yn falch iawn o glywed y nodyn o optimistiaeth gan Dai Lloyd funud yn ôl a'r pwynt a wnaeth am y cysylltiad rhwng y Gymraeg a'r iaith Fasgeg a'r Hebraeg a'r ffordd y mae'r sefyllfa wedi cael ei gwrthdroi yn y ddau achos arall hwnnw. Mae'n rhoi llawer iawn o obaith i Gymru hefyd. Rydym yn sicr wedi dod yn bell oddi wrth 'Frad y Llyfrau Gleision', pan oedd yn bolisi gan y Llywodraeth ar y pryd i geisio cael gwared ar yr iaith. Heddiw, yn ffodus, mae gennym agwedd hollol wahanol. Rwy'n synnu, mewn gwirionedd, fod y Llywodraeth wedi ceisio diwygio'r cynnig hwn yn y modd y mae wedi gwneud oherwydd ceir consensws o gwmpas y tŷ y dylem gefnogi amcanion Llywodraeth Cymru. Rwy'n credu eu bod wedi ymrwymo i ymdrech glodwiw i gael y dyhead hwn am 1 filiwn o siaradwyr Cymraeg erbyn 2050, ac rwy'n meddwl y dylem gydnabod bod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi gwneud cyfraniad enfawr tuag at wrthdroi sefyllfa'r iaith. Rwy'n meddwl, ar ffurf y Gweinidog presennol, fel rwyf wedi dweud o'r blaen, nad oes neb yn fwy addas i hybu'r mesur hwn. Felly, nid wyf yn credu bod angen i'r Llywodraeth fod yn amddiffynnol mewn unrhyw ffordd ac nid wyf yn ystyried bod pwynt 2 yn y cynnig yn feirniadol o'r Llywodraeth. Rwy'n meddwl efallai fod Plaid Cymru yn ôl pob tebyg wedi penderfynu yn fwriadol i beidio â chyflwyno nodyn o wrthdaro i'r ddadl hon er mwyn annog y consensws sydd angen i ni i gyd ei ddangos i'r byd y tu allan. Oni bai bod y Llywodraeth eisiau dileu'r datganiad pur o ffaith ym mhwynt 2, yna gallem i gyd gymryd rhan yn y ddadl hon ar nodyn o gytundeb llawn. Felly, mae'n anffodus fod y math hwn o ddadlau pwynt wedi cael ei fabwysiadu. Ond rwy'n credu ein bod i gyd yn cytuno ar yr hyn rydym am ei gyflawni ac felly nid oes unrhyw anghytundeb yno. Rwy'n credu bod yr hyn a ddywedodd Llyr Gruffydd yn ei araith agoriadol heddiw yn iawn. Rydym i gyd yn cydnabod anferthedd y dasg i gyrraedd 1 filiwn o siaradwyr Cymraeg erbyn 2050. Gall fod yn fwy o ddyhead na realiti, ar un ystyr, ond rwy'n meddwl os gallwn wneud camau sylweddol tuag at gyflawni hynny, yna byddai hynny ynddo'i hun yn werth ei wneud. Mae'n galw am y newid agwedd a ddisgrifiodd, am hyrwyddo'r defnydd o'r Gymraeg. Rwy'n credu bod yn rhaid i ni i gyd, fel unigolion, wneud ein rhan yn hynny o beth. Rwy'n straffaglu drwy'r llyfrau dysgu ar y funud am na chefais y fantais fawr a gafodd Dai Lloyd ac eraill o dyfu i fyny ar aelwyd Gymraeg - nid oedd y naill na'r llall o fy rhieni yn siarad Cymraeg. Roeddem yn byw yn Sir Fynwy, a oedd yn uniaith Saesneg ar y pryd, hyd nes fy mod yn 11 oed, ac yna symudais i Sir Gaerfyrddin. Roeddwn yn 11 oed cyn i mi gael unrhyw wersi Cymraeg o gwbl. Ddwy flynedd yn ddiweddarach, roedd rhaid i mi ddewis rhwng y Gymraeg a'r Almaeneg a dewisais Almaeneg. Felly, yn ystod fy ngyrfa ysgol, dysgais Ffrangeg ac Almaeneg a Rwsieg, ac fe astudiais Almaeneg a Rwsieg yn y brifysgol yn ogystal, ond yn anffodus ni fanteisiais ar y cyfle i ddefnyddio'r Gymraeg pan gefais ei gynnig. Ond rwy'n falch o ddweud -