English: Thank you. I can confirm that in relation to your last point, and I'll link that to the cross-border work on evidence and progress, as I indicated in response to the first set of questions, the audit being undertaken in England is on an experimental basis and has not been undertaken in that way before. And I will, of course, be interested in the evidence provided by that and officials are engaged around the review being undertaken by the Department of Health. I would not expect there to be a significant difference in the number of problems that arise from these procedures. So, we have to start by recognising that there is a problem here in Wales. We know that because we have people who have survived complications and are living with them now. And part of our challenge is understanding the number of people and understanding the reluctance of some people to come forward. It is quite easy to understand why some people do not wish to highlight the problems that they have, particularly if they feel that they've not been believed at an early stage when complications were arising. And removal can be complicated and difficult and not always completely successful surgery. There are risks in that too. As I've said in response to a number of people already and I tried to say at the outset, I'm not in a position to ban mesh. I'm not in a position to suspend its use either. What the report, though, does make clear is it should be a last resort. As I said, people then say, 'Well, what is a last resort?' Well, it's something about making sure that all of those conservative non-surgical treatment options are exhausted first, and that's why there has to be a proper focus on making sure that we have a more consistent arrangement surrounding the multidisciplinary teams to make sure those options are provided early, and then, when going through any treatment options, that the potential consequences of each of them are highlighted to the women involved. Because as I've said, I do recognise that some of the real challenges that we have understood are not that the risks have been explained and people have gone in with their eyes open about those risks, many women have said they were simply not given a genuinely informed basis upon which to make that choice about whether to consent to surgery or not. In terms of the attempt that was made in attempting to try and have people who were living with the complications of mesh engaged in the task and finish group, having decided to set up the task and finish group, I wanted to make sure that there were people living with those complications who could input into that work. That meant the invitation was at relatively short notice, with the terms of reference, the people involved and indeed the evidence they would be considering. It wasn't just at that early stage, though, that an attempt was made to involve women in that work. Throughout the life of the task and finish group, for a number of months, we've tried to find a way in which they could have a real input, either to the whole group or to members of it. That proved not to be possible. I absolutely do not wish there to be any kind of criticism inferred or taken from that at all as to the decision that those women made not to engage directly in the work of the task and finish group. I think it's easy to understand why they chose not to do that. But, they did however continue to have an input around that. As you are aware, we met your constituents to have that conversation and their accounts and the written evidence they provided were taken into account and were provided to the task and finish group, and it's part of the reason why the work of the task and finish group was extended, because they did consider the evidence that was provided by both Jemima Williams and Nicola Hobbs, and it's referenced in the report. So, I hope that does help provide some assurance that their evidence was taken seriously. And in taking forward the work of the implementation group, we need to find a way for women themselves who are living with complications to actually have an input into the work of that implementation group, as well as those people who are on the pathway already and are undergoing conservative treatment options in the here and now. So, there is much more for us to do and, as I've said in an earlier response, I will happily report back to Members on the work that is being undertaken and the progress that we're making.
Welsh: Diolch. Gallaf gadarnhau o ran eich pwynt olaf, a byddaf yn cysylltu hwnnw â'r gwaith trawsffiniol ar dystiolaeth a chynnydd, fel y nodais mewn ymateb i'r gyfres gyntaf o gwestiynau, fod yr archwiliad a gynhelir yn Lloegr ar sail arbrofol ac ni chafodd ei gynnal yn y ffordd honno o'r blaen. Wrth gwrs, bydd gennyf ddiddordeb yn y dystiolaeth a ddarperir ac mae swyddogion yn cymryd rhan yn yr adolygiad a gynhelir gan yr Adran Iechyd. Ni fyddwn yn disgwyl y byddai gwahaniaeth sylweddol yn nifer y problemau sy'n deillio o'r triniaethau hyn. Felly, mae'n rhaid inni ddechrau drwy gydnabod bod yna broblem yma yng Nghymru. Rydym ni'n gwybod hynny oherwydd bod gennym ni bobl sydd wedi goroesi cymhlethdodau ac sy'n byw gyda nhw yn awr. A rhan o'r her i ni yw deall nifer y bobl a deall amharodrwydd rhai pobl i ddod ymlaen. Mae'n ddigon hawdd deall pam nad yw rhai pobl am dynnu sylw at y problemau sydd ganddyn nhw, yn enwedig os ydyn nhw'n teimlo nad ydyn nhw wedi cael eu credu ar gam cynnar pan oedd cymhlethdodau'n codi. A gall tynnu rhwyll fod yn llawdriniaeth gymhleth ac anodd nad yw bob amser yn gwbl lwyddiannus. Mae yna risgiau yn hynny hefyd. Fel yr wyf wedi dweud mewn ymateb i nifer o bobl eisoes a cheisiais ddweud ar y dechrau, nid wyf mewn sefyllfa i wahardd rhwyll. Nid wyf mewn sefyllfa i atal ei ddefnydd dros dro ychwaith. Yr hyn y mae'r adroddiad yn ei egluro yw y dylai fod yn ddewis olaf. Fel y dywedais, mae pobl yn dweud wedyn, 'Wel, beth yw dewis olaf?' Wel, mae'n ymwneud â sicrhau y rhoddir cynnig ar bob un o'r opsiynau triniaeth ceidwadol hynny nad ydynt yn llawfeddygol yn gyntaf, a dyna pam y mae'n rhaid rhoi pwyslais priodol ar sicrhau bod gennym drefniant mwy cyson â'r timau amlddisgyblaethol i wneud yn siŵr y darperir yr opsiynau hynny yn gynnar, ac yna, wrth fynd trwy unrhyw opsiynau triniaeth, y tynnir sylw'r menywod hynny at ganlyniadau posibl pob un opsiwn. Fel y dywedais, rwy'n cydnabod mai rhai o'r heriau gwirioneddol yr ydym ni wedi'u deall yw nid fod y risgiau wedi'u hegluro a bod pobl wedi bwrw ymlaen yn gwbl ymwybodol o'r risgiau hynny, ond bod llawer o fenywod wedi dweud na roddwyd sail wirioneddol ddeallus iddyn nhw er mwyn gwneud y dewis hwnnw ynghylch rhoi caniatâd i lawdriniaeth neu beidio. O ran yr ymgais a wnaed i geisio cael pobl a oedd yn byw gyda chymhlethdodau rhwyll i gymryd rhan yn y grŵp gorchwyl a gorffen, ar ôl penderfynu sefydlu'r grŵp hwnnw, roeddwn i eisiau gwneud yn siŵr bod pobl sy'n byw gyda rhai o'r cymhlethdodau hynny a allai gyfrannu at y gwaith hwnnw. Roedd hynny'n golygu bod y gwahoddiad wedi bod yn fyr rybudd, gyda'r cylch gorchwyl, y bobl dan sylw ac yn wir y dystiolaeth y byddent yn ei hystyried. Nid dim ond yn y cyfnod cynnar hwnnw yn unig, er hynny, y gwnaed ymgais i gynnwys menywod yn y gwaith hwnnw. Trwy gydol oes y grŵp gorchwyl a gorffen, am nifer o fisoedd, ceisiwyd dod o hyd i ffordd y gallen nhw gael mewnbwn gwirioneddol, naill ai i'r grŵp cyfan neu i aelodau ohono. Nid oedd hynny'n bosibl. Yn sicr, nid wyf yn dymuno gweld unrhyw fath o feirniadaeth o gwbl ynghylch penderfyniad y menywod hynny i beidio ag ymwneud yn uniongyrchol â gwaith y grŵp gorchwyl a gorffen. Rwy'n credu ei bod hi'n hawdd deall pam y gwnaethon nhw ddewis peidio â gwneud hynny. Ond fe wnaethon nhw, er hynny, barhau i gyfrannu. Fel y gwyddoch chi, cawsom gyfarfod â'ch etholwyr i gael y sgwrs honno a chymerwyd i ystyriaeth eu straeon a'r dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig a ddarparwyd ganddyn nhw a'u rhoi i'r grŵp gorchwyl a gorffen, ac mae'n rhan o'r rheswm pam yr estynnwyd gwaith y grŵp gorchwyl a gorffen. Oherwydd fe wnaethon nhw ystyried y dystiolaeth a ddarparwyd gan Jemima Williams a Nicola Hobbs, a chyfeirir ati yn yr adroddiad. Gobeithio felly bod hynny yn helpu i roi rhywfaint o sicrwydd bod eu tystiolaeth yn cael ei ystyried o ddifrif. Ac wrth ddatblygu gwaith y grŵp gweithredu, mae angen inni ddod o hyd i ffordd y gall y menywod eu hunain sy'n byw gyda'r cymhlethdodau gyfrannu mewn gwirionedd i waith y grŵp gweithredu, yn ogystal â'r bobl hynny sydd ar y llwybr eisoes ac sy'n ymgymryd ag opsiynau triniaeth geidwadol ar hyn o bryd. Felly, mae llawer mwy i ni ei wneud ac, fel y dywedais mewn ateb cynharach, byddaf yn hapus i adrodd yn ôl i'r Aelodau ar y gwaith a wneir a'r cynnydd yr ydym ni'n ei wneud.