English: Or let me put it in a different way. There are over twice as many Tory MPs without confidence in the Prime Minister than there are of Senedd Members sitting here. Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd never refers to the devolution settlement in Wales because its been anything but settled. We've had at least four different versions. There are only two constants in the history of Welsh devolution. One is sitting next to me: the continued presence of four of my esteemed colleagues. Llywydd, if you'd served in each iteration of the Icelandic Parliament, you'd be over 1,000 years old by now. The other constant, of course, is the Senedd size. Despite the development from a glorified local government into today's modern Parliament, we have seen the Senedd remain exactly the same size. I could bring all the reports that Huw Irranca-Davies mentioned to this Siambr that have demonstrated the need for more Members, for proper scrutiny, but I wouldn't be able to carry them all in, they'd be too heavy for me. But they all agree that a larger Senedd is necessary to make life more difficult for people on those benches - to scrutinise the Welsh Government more effectively and more efficiently. Now, some people have criticised my party that these proposals do not go far enough, and they are right - they don't go far enough. We would prefer a single transferrable vote system. However, as Huw Irranca-Davies said - [ Interruption.] No, I won't take an intervention; you'll have plenty of time to talk. As Huw Irranca-Davies said, this is work in progress, as the story of Welsh devolution has been from the beginning. The ability of the closed list system to ensure gender equality is an excellent step forward. Our Senedd was the first legislature in the world to have gender parity and I look forward to that happening again in the next Senedd. And I hear the Conservatives talking against gender quotas - looking at those benches, I wonder why they are against gender quotas. And whilst the reforms may not go as far as we would like, sometimes, one needs to compromise to move things forward. If Members - well, some of us who can remember; maybe Luke Fletcher can't remember - cast their minds back to 1997, Plaid Cymru wanted to go much further than the proposals put forward by the New Labour Government, but we were willing to compromise, because we had to acknowledge that the people of Wales had voted for four Plaid MPs rather than the 40 - Alun Davies was not successful for us in Cynon Valley in that election. [ Laughter.]
Welsh: Neu gadewch i mi ei ddweud mewn ffordd wahanol. Mae dros ddwywaith cymaint o Aelodau Seneddol Torïaidd wedi colli hyder yn y Prif Weinidog nag sydd o Aelodau'r Senedd yn eistedd yma. Nid yw'r Arglwydd Thomas o Gwmgïedd byth yn cyfeirio at y setliad datganoli yng Nghymru am nad yw erioed wedi'i setlo. Rydym wedi cael o leiaf pedwar fersiwn gwahanol. Dim ond dau beth sy'n barhaus yn hanes datganoli yng Nghymru. Mae un yn eistedd wrth fy ymyl: presenoldeb parhaus pedwar o fy nghyd-Aelodau uchel eu parch. Lywydd, pe baech wedi gwasanaethu ym mhob iteriad o Senedd Gwlad yr Iâ, byddech dros 1,000 oed erbyn hyn. Yr elfen barhaus arall, wrth gwrs, yw maint y Senedd. Er y datblygiad o fod yn llywodraeth leol estynedig i fod yn Senedd fodern fel sydd gennym heddiw, rydym wedi gweld y Senedd yn aros yn union yr un faint. Gallwn ddod â'r holl adroddiadau a grybwyllodd Huw Irranca-Davies i'r Siambr hon, yr adroddiadau sydd wedi dangos yr angen am fwy o Aelodau er mwyn sicrhau craffu priodol, ond ni fyddwn yn gallu eu cario i gyd i mewn, byddent yn rhy drwm i mi. Ond maent i gyd yn gytûn fod angen Senedd fwy i wneud bywyd yn anos i bobl ar y meinciau hynny - i graffu ar Lywodraeth Cymru yn fwy effeithiol ac yn fwy effeithlon. Nawr, mae rhai pobl wedi beirniadu fy mhlaid nad yw'r cynigion hyn yn mynd yn ddigon pell, ac maent yn iawn - nid ydynt yn mynd yn ddigon pell. Byddai'n well gennym gael system bleidlais sengl drosglwyddadwy. Fodd bynnag, fel y dywedodd Huw Irranca-Davies - [ Torri ar draws.] Na, nid wyf am dderbyn ymyriad; bydd gennych ddigon o amser i siarad. Fel y dywedodd Huw Irranca-Davies, mae hwn yn waith sy'n mynd rhagddo, fel y mae hanes datganoli yng Nghymru wedi bod o'r dechrau. Mae gallu system rhestrau caeedig i sicrhau cydraddoldeb rhwng y rhywiau yn gam rhagorol ymlaen. Ein Senedd oedd y ddeddfwrfa gyntaf yn y byd i sicrhau cydraddoldeb rhwng y rhywiau ac edrychaf ymlaen at weld hynny'n digwydd eto yn y Senedd nesaf. A chlywaf y Ceidwadwyr yn siarad yn erbyn cwotâu rhywedd - o edrych ar y meinciau hynny, tybed pam eu bod yn erbyn cwotâu rhywedd. Ac er nad yw'r diwygiadau'n mynd mor bell ag yr hoffem weithiau o bosibl, mae angen cyfaddawdu i symud pethau yn eu blaenau. Os yw'r Aelodau'n cofio - wel, gall rhai ohonom gofio; efallai na all Luke Fletcher gofio - yn ôl ym 1997, roedd Plaid Cymru eisiau mynd yn llawer pellach na'r cynigion a gyflwynwyd gan y Llywodraeth Lafur Newydd, ond roeddem yn barod i gyfaddawdu, oherwydd roedd yn rhaid inni gydnabod bod pobl Cymru wedi pleidleisio dros bedwar Aelod Plaid Cymru yn hytrach na'r 40 - ni lwyddodd Alun Davies ar ein rhan yng Nghwm Cynon yn yr etholiad hwnnw. [ Chwerthin.]