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English: Before you go on to the third barrier, I've just asked the Minister whether he had had any input into this situation. He said that there was no bid to assist from yourselves to the Government in terms of the infrastructure or the funds to be able to afford that. Why hadn't that happened on your part?
Welsh: Roeddwn i jest eisiau gofyn i chi, cyn i chi fynd ymlaen at y trydydd rhwystr - . Roeddwn i jest wedi gofyn i'r Gweinidog os oedd e wedi cael unrhyw fewnbwn i'r sefyllfa yma. Roedd e'n dweud nad oedd cais i helpu gennych chi wedi mynd at y Llywodraeth o ran y seilwaith neu ariannu er mwyn gallu fforddio hynny. Pam nad oedd hynny wedi digwydd, ar eich rhan chi?
English: It is relevant to the next point that I was going to make.
Welsh: Mae'n berthnasol i'r pwynt nesaf, a dweud y gwir.
English: I'm trying to understand - because reliance is very different to initial support. So, why didn't you think it would be an idea to ask the Government, 'Can we have initial support with core costs so that we can continue ourselves?' Wasn't that a discussion that you had?
Welsh: Rwyf jest yn trio deall - mae dibyniaeth yn wahanol i gefnogaeth gychwynnol, er enghraifft. Felly, pam nad oeddech chi'n meddwl y byddai'n syniad i ofyn i'r Llywodraeth, 'A allwn ni gael help cychwynnol neu help gyda chostau craidd er mwyn ein bod ni'n gallu parhau ar ein pennau'n hunain?' Onid oedd hynny'n drafodaeth roeddech chi wedi ei chael?
English: There was initial assistance from the fund that existed at that time in order to raise the profile and to take the debate out there. What we did was - . It was a relatively small sum, £10,000, but it was funding that made a very real difference and did assist us to build the foundations. But, the process of going further than that - . We did look into the possibility of compromising on our vision. We did the same with local authorities too, particularly within local authorities in terms of their dealings with European funding, and we hit a problem there, which, I'm happy to say, is no longer a problem in west Wales. But we had to discuss with each and every local authority separately, on terms that were slightly different in each case, and particularly in terms of European funding. Although each of the local authorities and each of the committees that were responsible for European funding wanted to collaborate, it couldn't happen at that time - there was this silo problem that we faced. By now, of course, we are in discussions on LEADER funding in each of the three counties, and I'm pleased to say that that process of collaboration is now working and those barriers have been removed.
Welsh: Mi oedd yna help cychwynnol o'r gronfa a oedd yn bodoli ar gyfer help i godi'r proffil ac i fynd â'r drafodaeth mas. A beth wnaethom ni oedd - . Arian cymharol fach o £10,000 oedd e, ond roedd e'n arian a wnaeth wahaniaeth mawr. Roedd yn help i ni, i ddweud y gwir, i adeiladu'r seilwaith. Ond, roedd y broses o fynd ymhellach - . Fe wnaethom ni edrych i mewn i'r posibilrwydd o gyfaddawdu a datblygu ac fe wnaethom ni'r un peth gydag awdurdodau lleol hefyd, yn enwedig o fewn awdurdodau lleol o safbwynt eu perthynas ag arian Ewropeaidd, ac fe fwriom ni broblem yn fanna, sydd, rydw i'n hapus i ddweud, ddim yn broblem bellach yng ngorllewin Cymru. Ond roeddem ni'n gorfod trafod gyda phob un awdurdod ar wahân, ar delerau ychydig yn wahanol, ac yn enwedig o ran arian Ewrop. Er bod pob un o'r awdurdodau a phob un o'r pwyllgorau oedd yn bugeilio arian Ewrop eisiau cydweithio, nid oedd e ddim yn gallu digwydd - roedd y broblem seilos yma gyda ni. Erbyn hyn, wrth gwrs, rydym ni mewn trafodaeth gydag arian LEADER ar y foment, ym mhob un o'r tair sir, ac rydw i'n hapus i ddweud fod y broses o gydweithio - bellach mae'r rhwystrau yna wedi'u hysgubo o'r ffordd.
English: Thank you for that. We will move on now to Suzy Davies.
Welsh: Diolch am hynny. Rydym ni'n symud ymlaen. Mae gan Suzy Davies gwestiwn.
English: Thank you very much. Can I just ask, just to be clear - at heart, what's been the problem in going online rather than via traditional transmitters? Because I've just been on the website here. It's possible for me, in Cardiff, to look and watch and listen to what's happening with Radio Beca. More and more people are using their phones and aux cables in their cars - you can access radio from here. Has that been an unexpected success?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. A alla i jest ofyn, i fod yn glir - yn y bôn, beth sydd wedi bod yn broblem drwy fynd ar-lein yn lle dros transmitters traddodiadol? Achos rydw i jest wedi edrych ar eich gwefan fan hyn nawr. Mae'n bosibl i fi yn fan hyn, yng Nghaerdydd, edrych a gwylio ar beth sy'n digwydd gyda Radio Beca. A gyda mwy a mwy o bobl yn iwsio eu ffonau ac aux cables yn y car - mae'n bosibl i mi fynd i'r radio o fan hyn. A ydy hyn wedi bod yn unexpected success?
English: Well, that perhaps is what the basis of my question is. What do you think is the specific purpose of community radio now? Are we talking about the audience? Perhaps those who aren't quite so young, because young people go online for almost everything. Or is there another purpose for it?
Welsh: Wel, dyna efallai beth yw sail y cwestiwn, mewn ffordd. Beth ydych chi'n ei feddwl yw pwrpas penodol radio cymunedol nawr? A ydyn ni'n sôn am y gynulleidfa? Efallai pobl sydd ddim yn ifanc, achos maen nhw'n mynd ar-lein ar gyfer bron popeth. A oes yna bwrpas arbennig?
English: Very interesting. That was like a speech in the Chamber here. You've used the word 'practical' in your speech, and it's far easier to be practical if there's some funding on the table. So, have you benefitted from the community radio fund?
Welsh: Diddorol iawn, achos roedd hwnnw fel araith yn y Siambr yma. Rydych chi wedi sôn am fod yn - rŷch chi wedi iwsio'r gair 'ymarferol' yn eithaf diweddar yna, ac wrth gwrs mae'n lot haws i fod yn ymarferol os mae tipyn bach o arian ar y bwrdd. A ydych chi wedi cael lles o'r gronfa, y community radio fund?
English: In the old model, at the outset - that was the initial £10,000 I referred to earlier. I think, within the process that currently exists, it's something that we'd need to look at, but, from our understanding, we wouldn't qualify for that now.
Welsh: Ar y cychwyn, yn yr hen fodel, ar y cychwyn, do - dyna beth oedd y £10,000 cychwynnol a oedd ar gael. Rydw i'n meddwl, o fewn y broses sydd ohoni, mae'n rhywbeth bod yn rhaid i ni edrych arno, ond, o'n dealltwriaeth ni, fyddem ni ddim yn gymwys ar gyfer hynny ar hyn o bryd.
English: Well, that's why I ask, because I knew, actually, that you'd had money. But the fund has been scrapped now. What's going to happen now, in your opinion, to anyone who wants to implement your vision in other parts of Wales? Because there's no fund available at present. There is a United Kingdom fund, but it's not clear to us yet that everyone is aware of that.
Welsh: Wel, dyna pam rydw i'n gofyn - achos roeddwn i'n gwybod, actually, eich bod chi wedi cael yr arian. Ond mae e wedi diflannu erbyn hyn. Beth sy'n mynd i ddigwydd, yn eich barn chi, i unrhyw un sydd eisiau gweithredu eich gweledigaeth mewn llefydd eraill o Gymru? Achos nad oes yna ddim cronfa ar gael ar hyn o bryd. Mae un yn y Deyrnas Unedig, ond nid yw'n glir i ni eto bod pobl yn ymwybodol o honno.
English: We received information through the WCVA reminding us that this fund was available. That is, it is generally available, but not specifically for Wales as it was.
Welsh: Roeddem ni'n cael gwybodaeth trwy'r WCVA yn ein hatgoffa ni fod y gronfa ar gael. Hynny yw, mae ar gael yn gyffredinol, ond nid yn benodol i Gymru, fel yr oedd.
English: Did you bid for that?
Welsh: A oeddech chi wedi gwneud cais am hwnnw?
English: No. I want to see - I'm not making any assumptions, but I do think that, because we are not working within the Ofcom licensing system, that we wouldn't qualify.
Welsh: Na. Rydw i eisiau edrych i weld - nid ydw i'n ei gymryd yn ganiataol, ond rydw i'n ryw feddwl, efallai, oherwydd nad ydym ni'n gweithredu o fewn system trwyddedu Ofcom, fyddem ni ddim yn gymwys.
English: But, of course - sorry to cut across - if the Welsh Government were to establish a fund then they could set criteria that are different, and perhaps - . Do you think is there a role for Government to to support the type of vision that you're trying to put forward?
Welsh: Ond, wrth gwrs - sori i dorri ar draws - petai Lywodraeth Cymru yn sefydlu cronfa, mi allan nhw roi meini prawf a llinyn a mesur gwahanol, ac efallai byddai - . A ydych chi'n credu efallai a oes yna le i Lywodraeth fod yn cefnogi'r math o weledigaeth yr ydych chi'n trio rhoi ymlaen?
English: Well, you mentioned criteria, and I was going to respond by saying 'or freedom', because it's as few criteria as possible that would make it work - from our point of view, at least.
Welsh: Pan oeddech chi'n sôn am feini prawf, roeddwn i'n mynd i ateb nôl gan ddweud 'neu ryddid', achos cyn lleied o feini prawf â phosib y byddai'n gwneud y peth i weithio, efallai - o'n safbwynt ni, o leiaf.
English: Well, along those same lines, is there room within the vision for public sector advertisements, particularly, let's say, public health campaigns, as Siân mentioned earlier?
Welsh: Wel, ar y tir yna, oes yna le yn y weledigaeth am adverts sector cyhoeddus, yn arbennig ymgyrchoedd iechyd cyhoeddus, er enghraifft, fel mae Siân wedi awgrymu?
English: Certainly. What is developing, and we have that evidence, even on the limited scale that we're working on currently, where we're building that capacity to spread that vision, to grow the centres, the disparate centres of broadcasting, increasingly. But what's there, of course, is that connectivity, because of that ownership, because it's not your radio, but we are the radio. It's crossed that important threshold. Because we are it, that level of connection and relationship and discussion is very intensive and it's very real. And, so, use of public funding - . Those advertisements are also an investment in that process, and enable the process to go further and show faith in that process, of course.
Welsh: Yn sicr. Yr hyn sydd yn datblygu, ac mae'r dystiolaeth yna gyda ni, hyd yn oed ar y raddfa gyfyngedig rŷm ni'n gweithio arni ar hyn o bryd, lle rŷm ni'n adeiladu'r capasiti i ledu'r weledigaeth yn fwy, i ni dyfu'r canolfannau, y man ganolfannau yma o ddarlledu, yn fwyfwy. Ond yr hyn sydd yna, wrth gwrs, yw ymgysylltiad oherwydd y berchnogaeth, oherwydd nid eich radio chi yw o, ond ni yw'r radio. Rwyt ti'n croesi ffin bwysig iawn, iawn. Oherwydd mai ni yw e, mae'r lefel o ymgysylltu a thrafodaeth yn ddwys iawn, iawn, ac yn real iawn. Ac, felly, mae defnydd o arian cyhoeddus drwy - . Mae'r hysbysebion yna hefyd yn fuddsoddiad yn y broses yna, yn galluogi'r broses yna i fynd ymhellach, ac yn dangos ffydd yn y broses yna, wrth gwrs.
English: In Cardiff.
Welsh: Yng Nghaerdydd.
English: That's in Cardiff, yes. So, we've lost that young man for a while, but he has gone and seen the opportunity to use the media now to discuss what needs to be discussed, and I know that he is -
Welsh: Yng Nghaerdydd, ie. Felly, rŷm ni wedi colli'r boi am dipyn bach, ond mae e wedi mynd ati a gweld y cyfle i ddefnyddio'r cyfryngau i drafod rhywbeth sydd angen ei drafod, ac rwy'n gwybod ei fod e wrthi'n -
English: That's an important element in terms of your question, because, for us, the fact that he's taken that concept and taken ownership of it and, to all intents and purposes, may have forgotten everything about Radio Beca doesn't concern us at all. The important thing is that he's doing it - he's taken the idea and he's developing it himself. So, our work is encouraging, enabling and supporting. Radio Beca is a movement, and that movement is at the heart of any movement. It's not an institution. We want to ensure that things are moving forward, that that difficult dynamic, that bloody nuisance that simply won't remain static, is there, and is moving, developing and changing into something creative continually.
Welsh: Mae honno'n elfen bwysig o ran eich cwestiwn chi, achos i ni, mae'r ffaith ei fod e wedi mynd â'r cysyniad ac wedi ei berchnogi e ac, i bob pwrpas, efallai wedi anghofio unrhyw beth amboutu Radio Beca yn becso dim arnom ni. Y peth pwysig yw y mae e'n ei wneud e. Mae e wedi mynd â'r syniad ac mae e'n ei ddatblygu e ei hunan. Felly, ein gwaith ni yw'r ysgogi, galluogi, cefnogi. Mudiad yw Radio Beca - mudiad - a mudo, symud, yw peth sylfaenol mudiad - nid sefydliad. Rŷm ni eisiau gwneud yn siŵr bod pethau'n symud, bod y ddeinameg anodd yna - y blydi niwsans yna, sy'n pallu aros yn llonydd - ac yn symud, yn newid ac yn datblygu mewn i rywbeth creadigol yn barhaus.
English: Once again, there are two aspects to this. The first is what we need is those motivators and enablers. The leadership is what we need, so we're not looking to employ broadcasters or technicians, but that enabling team is crucially important. At the moment, we are seeking to develop - with LEADER funding, the seed funding - these teams that will then operate as cultural pollinators. That is, their work will be - . There will be no offices, there will be no studios - their work will be being out there. If we hear that they are turning their home into an office I wouldn't be happy at all, because their job is to be out there among people and working with people - young people, particularly, but not exclusively - developing, and enhancing the awareness of what is possible.
Welsh: Unwaith eto, mae yna ddwy agwedd i hyn. Yr agwedd gyntaf yw mai beth rŷm ni ei angen yw'r ysgogwyr a'r galluogwyr. Yr arweinyddiaeth yw beth sydd ei angen, felly nid ydym ni'n edrych i gyflogi darlledwyr na thechnegwyr, ond mae'r tîm ysgogi yna yn hollbwysig. Rŷm ni ar hyn o bryd yn edrych i ddatblygu - gydag arian LEADER, yr arian had - a sefydlu'r timoedd yma, a fydd wedyn yn gweithredu yn wenyn diwylliannol. Hynny yw, eu gwaith nhw - bydd yna ddim swyddfeydd a bydd yna ddim stiwdios - fydd bod mas. Pe baem ni'n clywed eu bod nhw yn troi eu cartref i mewn i swyddfa neu rywbeth, fyddem ni ddim yn hapus, achos eu gwaith nhw yw bod mas yng nghanol pobl yn gweithio gyda pobl - pobl ifanc, yn arbennig, ond ddim yn ecsgliwsif - yn datblygu, yn codi ac yn lledu yr ymwybyddiaeth o'r hyn sydd yn bosib.
English: But where that leads is - if we can increase that level of activity to a sufficient level, on the basis of the three years of seed funding, then I am confident that we will come into a situation where commercial funds will be available in terms of sponsorship, where businesses within the community would become involved, once again, in order to reinforce their position and their profile within their own communities, and within our society. And we would do that, not from the point of view of something that we hope will happen, but on the basis of activity that is already successful within theatre, where we are -
Welsh: Ond ble mae hynny'n arwain yw - os y gallwn ni godi'r lefel yna o weithgaredd yn ddigon uchel, ar sail y tair blynedd o arian had, wedyn rydw i'n ffyddiog ein bod ni yn dod mewn i sefyllfa o nawdd, o arian masnachol ar lun nawdd, lle mae busnesau yn gweithredu, unwaith eto, i atgyfnerthu eu lle o fewn eu proffeil o fewn y gymdogaeth ac o fewn ein cymdeithas ni. Ac rŷm ni'n gwneud hynny, nid o safbwynt rhywbeth rŷm ni'n gobeithio bydd yn digwydd; rŷm ni'n gwneud hynny ar sail gweithgaredd sydd eisoes yn llwyddiannus o fewn maes theatr, lle rŷm ni yn -
English: Indeed, yes. The boundary between them -
Welsh: Ydw. Mae'r ffin rhwng y ddau -
English: We do need some briefer responses because we don't have a great deal of time left, if that's okay by you, or we won't be able to cover everything. Thank you. Jenny.
Welsh: Mae angen i ni gael atebion byrrach achos nid oes lot o amser gyda ni ar ôl. So, os yw hynny'n iawn, achos byddwn ni ddim yn gallu cyfro popeth. Diolch. Jenny.
English: All right. The difference between sponsorship and advertising - that is, it's not sponsorship as in 'Please help us' but sponsorship in terms of 'Be part of something dynamic that represents us all', and the voice of telling people, 'This is what is of interest to us', is a positive dynamic that is already in place and is already working.
Welsh: Yn iawn. Mae'r ffin rhwng hysbysebu a nawdd yn fan hyn - hynny yw, nid nawdd 'Helpwch ni' ond nawdd 'Byddwch yn rhan o rywbeth deinamig sydd yn siarad ar ein rhan ni i gyd', ac mae'r llais o ddweud wrth bobl, 'Dyma beth yw'n diddordeb ni' yn ddeinameg bositif sydd eisoes ar waith ac yn gweithio.
English: There won't be any RAJAR figures, but what we do have is that we include everyone within that conversation. From the very outset, entrepreneurship, at whatever level within these communities, has been at the heart of the conversation. So, it's not as if we're going to someone else. We are ensuring that that conversation includes that element of entrepreneurship and seeks out the potential of entrepreneurship, particularly, of course, in social terms. That is ongoing. So, we're not going to an external organisation; we are including and finding these solutions within our communities.
Welsh: Ni fydd ffigurau RAJAR, ond yr hyn sydd gyda ni yw ein bod ni'n cynnwys pawb o fewn y drafodaeth. Ers y cychwyn, mae entrepreneuriaeth, ar ba bynnag lefel yw e o fewn y cymdeithasau hyn, wedi bod yn rhan ganolog o'r drafodaeth. Felly, nid yw fel pe baem ni yn mynd at rywun gwahanol. Rŷm ni'n gwneud yn siŵr bod y drafodaeth yn cynnwys yr elfen yna o entrepreneuriaeth, ac yn holi am anghenion a photensial entrepreneuriaeth, yn enwedig, wrth gwrs, yn nhermau cymdeithasol. Mae hynny yn barhaus. Felly, nid ydym ni yn mynd at rywun tu fas; rŷm ni'n cynnwys yr atebion hyn o fewn y drafodaeth.
English: That's possible, but in the work that we're developing -
Welsh: Mae e'n bosibl, ond o fewn y gwaith rŷm ni'n ei ddatblygu -
English: Truth be told, we operate on the basis of an extension of the natural way of working within the industry, which means that we operate within the boundaries of society and societal norms. Society sets the boundaries for us.
Welsh: I ddweud y gwir, rŷm ni'n gweithredu ar sail neu fel estyniad ar ffurf naturiol y diwylliant, sydd yn golygu ein bod ni'n gweithredu o fewn ffurfiau cymdeithas ac o fewn ffiniau cymdeithas. Y gymdeithas ei hunan sydd yn gosod y ffiniau.
English: Thank you very much. Just a few things from what you've had to say this morning. I've been looking at the website and your Twitter feed while you have been talking, and it looks extremely interesting and very valuable indeed, I think, and perhaps provides a solution to some of the problems that we've been hearing about, as well as the wider vision. So, there are two things. Are you aware that there are similar models in other nations where radio is used in a similar way? Then, you did mention that you receive funding, or intend to bid for LEADER funding, for example. So, you must have a business plan of some sort, so there was no barrier for you in applying for funds from the Welsh Government's economic development pot either. Because it's a business plan that you need, and that doesn't have to include detailed figures on listenership and so on. But in terms of these models, are there nations - ? I'm sure that you are aware of other nations that are working in a similar way.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Jest cwpwl o bethau o beth rydych chi wedi'i ddweud y bore yma, felly. Rydw i wedi bod yn edrych ar y safle we ac ar eich trydar tra eich bod chi wedi bod yn siarad, ac mae'n edrych yn hynod o ddiddorol ac yn werthfawr iawn, rydw i'n meddwl, ac yn cynnig, efallai, ateb i beth o'r problemau yma rydym ni'n clywed amdanyn nhw, yn ogystal â'r weledigaeth fwy eang. So, dau beth, mewn ffordd. A ydych chi'n ymwybodol bod yna fodelau tebyg mewn gwledydd eraill lle mae radio'n cael ei ddefnyddio yn yr un ffordd? Wedyn, roeddech chi yn sôn eich bod chi yn cael arian, neu'n bwriadu ceisio am arian, gan y cynllun LEADER, er enghraifft. Felly, mae'n rhaid bod gennych chi gynllun busnes o ryw fath, felly nid oed yna ddim byd i'ch rhwystro chi rhag ymgeisio am arian o bot datblygu economaidd Llywodraeth Cymru chwaith. Achos cynllun busnes rydych chi ei angen, ac nid ydy hwnnw'n gorfod cynnwys ffigurau manwl ynglŷn â gwrandawyr ac yn y blaen. Ond o ran y modelau yma, a oes yna wledydd - ? Rydw i'n siŵr eich bod chi'n gwybod am wledydd eraill sydd yn gwneud gwaith tebyg.
English: Just one question on the BBC to close from Neil Hamilton in terms of local journalism.
Welsh: Jest un cwestiwn ar BBC i glou gan Neil Hamilton o ran y stwff ar newyddiaduraeth leol.
English: Well, to be honest, at the time, it was quite clear that, from the BBC's point of view, Welsh-medium broadcasting was the property of Radio Cymru and there was no role for anyone else to threaten that hegemony. But I do emphasise that, in terms of our relationship with Radio Cymru, that has been transformed, I'm very pleased to say. I do anticipate and I do hope that we, at some point, will hear about things that are being developed though Radio Beca being broadcast on Radio Cymru.
Welsh: Wel, i fod yn hollol onest, ar y pryd, mi oedd hi'n eithaf clir, o safbwynt y BBC, mai eiddo Radio Cymru oedd darlledu yn y Gymraeg ac nad oedd lle gydag unrhyw un arall, mewn gwirionedd, i fygwth yr hegemoni hynny. Ac rwyf i'n pwysleisio hyn: o safbwynt y berthynas â Radio Cymru, mae hynny wedi newid yn llwyr, ac rydw i'n falch iawn o hynny. Hynny yw, rydw i'n rhagweld, a byddem yn gobeithio y byddwn ni, ar ryw adeg yn clywed pethau sy'n cael eu datblygu o dan adain a thrwy ysgogiad Radio Beca yn cael eu darlledu ar Radio Cymru.
English: Well, as you've mentioned, that independence is what we would be concerned about in that regard. It sounds great having a lot of people and resources being shared, but they're still going to be operating within the editorial system of the BBC. So, it's that freedom, perhaps, that we would have doubt about. A better way of doing it would be from the bottom up.
Welsh: Ie, wel, fel gyda beth rydych chi wedi sôn amdano, yr annibyniaeth honno yw beth y byddem ni yn pryderu amdano gyda hynny, efallai. Hynny yw, mae'n swnio'n grêt cael lot o bobl ac adnoddau yn cael eu rhoi mas, ond maen nhw'n dal yn mynd i fod o fewn system dilyn golygyddiaeth y BBC, am wn i. Felly, y rhyddid hwnnw y byddwn i'n amau, efallai. Hynny yw, ffordd well o'i wneud e fyddai ei wneud e o'r gwaelod lan.
English: We have to draw the session to a close now, and we have to bring the committee meeting itself to a close. So, thank you very much for providing evidence. If there is anything you'd like to add, please write to us. We would welcome that, if there's anything you haven't had an opportunity to say. Thank you for your evidence this morning.
Welsh: Ocê. Mae'n rhaid inni ddod â hyn i ben nawr, ac mae'n rhaid inni ddod â'r pwyllgor ei hun i ben. Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn ichi am roi gwybodaeth inni. Os oes unrhyw beth ychwanegol, plis ysgrifennwch atom ni. Byddem ni'n croesawu unrhyw beth nad ydych chi wedi cael amser i'w ddweud. Diolch am ddod mewn i roi tystiolaeth heddiw.
English: Thank you very much.
Welsh: Diolch i chi.
English: That's okay. Thank you.
Welsh: Iawn. Diolch yn fawr.
English: We'll move on to item 5, which is a motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. Is everyone content? Thank you.
Welsh: Symudwn ymlaen at eitem 5, sef cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i wahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod. A ydyw pawb yn hapus gyda hynny? Diolch.