English: It's not a specific objective of the development bank to increase food security in the country. It's not a specific objective that we've set. However, we have set objectives around helping to transition Wales to a more sustainable economy and plans around net zero. Lesley Griffiths, as you know, is the Minister who leads on the food sector. I mentioned this last week, and Alun Davies noted his lifetime's work in supporting the food and drink sector, sometimes personally - that actually we have seen a real growth in the sector from an export point of view. But there is something also about what we do need to do, and we recognise this within the Government, in broader food security for how food is produced, where it's produced, and how local it is as well. I'm not trying to avoid the issue; I just think that it's not the development bank that is the primary lever in doing that. It doesn't mean that projects that will help food security will not be supported. In fact, in the food and drink sector we have supported a number of projects to grow and to expand. At the economic summit it was much more about businesses in survival mode and wanting to understand what is likely to happen, and trade unions being interested in the terms and conditions of workers moving forward and what that means, but positively wanting to support businesses to have a good future. So, I think we're potentially talking at cross purposes about what the point and purpose of the summit was, because there wasn't a particular business that talked about food security in that event, and I wouldn't have necessarily expected there to be. I do take on board your point around pension funds, both the level of debt that they had and the level of risk they had. And of course what really changed and was very unexpected just a few weeks ago is actually that Government debt changed its profile as well. So, the value of that Government debt and that Government investment was a real factor for pension funds that were looking to provide a stable return for pension holders. I certainly hope, from the point of view of businesses, pensioners, and indeed householders, that we will see more stability from the UK market. It has a real impact not just on individual families but on individual businesses, because the terms of debt available are a real factor in holding off investment in the Welsh economy.
Welsh: Nid yw cynyddu diogelwch bwyd yn y wlad yn amcan penodol i'r banc datblygu. Nid yw'n amcan penodol y gwnaethom ni ei bennu. Er hynny, rydym ni wedi pennu amcanion ynghylch helpu Cymru i bontio i economi fwy cynaliadwy a chynlluniau ynghylch sero net. Lesley Griffiths, fel gwyddoch chi, yw'r Gweinidog sy'n arwain y sector fwyd. Fe soniais i am hynny'r wythnos diwethaf, ac fe nododd Alun Davies waith o ran cefnogi'r sector bwyd a diod ar hyd ei oes, mewn ffordd bersonol weithiau - ein bod ni mewn gwirionedd wedi gweld twf gwirioneddol yn y sector o safbwynt allforio. Ond mae yma rywbeth hefyd ynglŷn â'r hyn sydd ei angen i ni ei wneud, ac rydym ni'n cydnabod hynny yn y Llywodraeth, yng nghyd-destun diogelwch bwyd ehangach o ran sut caiff bwyd ei gynhyrchu, ymhle y caiff ei gynhyrchu, a pha mor lleol hefyd. Nid wyf i'n ceisio osgoi'r mater; dim ond mai fy marn i yw nad y banc datblygu yw'r prif ysgogydd yn hyn o beth. Nid yw hynny'n golygu na fydd yna gefnogaeth i brosiectau sy'n cynnig diogelwch bwyd. Yn wir, yn y sector bwyd a diod rydym ni wedi cefnogi nifer o brosiectau i dyfu ac ehangu. Yn yr uwchgynhadledd economaidd roedd llawer mwy o sôn am fusnesau yn ceisio goroesi ac yn awyddus i ddeall yr hyn sy'n debyg o ddigwydd, ac undebau llafur â diddordeb yn nhelerau ac amodau gweithwyr sy'n symud ymlaen a'r hyn y mae hynny'n ei olygu, ond yn sicr yn dymuno cefnogi busnesau i fwynhau dyfodol llewyrchus. Felly, rwy'n credu ein bod ni'n siarad yn groes i'n gilydd o ran diben a phwrpas yr uwchgynhadledd, oherwydd ni wnaeth unrhyw fusnes arbennig sôn am ddiogelwch bwyd yn y digwyddiad hwnnw, ac ni fyddwn i wedi disgwyl hynny o reidrwydd. Rwy'n deall eich pwynt chi ynglŷn â chronfeydd pensiynau, maint y ddyled a oedd ganddyn nhw a chyfradd y risg a oedden nhw'n ei hwynebu hefyd. Ac wrth gwrs yr hyn a newidiodd mewn gwirionedd ac a oedd yn annisgwyl iawn ychydig wythnosau yn ôl, yw bod dyled y Llywodraeth wedi newid ei phroffil. Felly, roedd gwerth dyled y Llywodraeth honno a buddsoddiad y Llywodraeth yn ffactor gwirioneddol ar gyfer cronfeydd pensiynau a oedd yn ceisio darparu elw sefydlog i ddeiliaid y pensiynau. Rwyf i'n sicr yn gobeithio, o safbwynt busnesau, pensiynwyr, a deiliaid tai, yn wir, y byddwn ni'n gweld mwy o sefydlogrwydd o du marchnad y DU. Mae ganddo effaith wirioneddol nid yn unig ar deuluoedd unigol ond ar fusnesau unigol, oherwydd mae amodau'r ddyled sydd ar gael yn ffactor gwirioneddol wrth rwystro buddsoddi yn economi Cymru.