English: What we want to see is timescales. We're not seeing adequate timescales for delivery on these things. We're seeing the surgical hubs some of us don't have; we're not seeing when surgical hubs are going to be delivered right the way across Wales. There's no time frame for that - it's in the plan. We're not seeing where all this money is actually going to be invested. We want to see that so that we can scrutinise it properly. Because we do welcome surgical hubs, Minister. That's something that you and I, and Russell George and my party, have been calling for for many years, because we want to see the number of people going into the NHS increasing. But when those people go in, we need to ensure there is adequate staff there to make sure that people are getting seen. I've said to you, and I'll say it again: I do think we need to have a radical look at how we get people into the NHS, whether that's through degree apprenticeships or having a radical overhaul of how people become nurses or doctors. A lot of people have mentioned in this Chamber - [ Interruption. ] I'll make a bit of progress, Carolyn, and I will come back to you. Prevention is better than cure. Many people have said that. And I do respect the Deputy Minister's position here of trying to address that, but we need to push this faster, quicker, to make sure it's delivered. We don't want to see people who are suffering with obesity on waiting lists, because that puts pressure on the NHS in terms of delays in discharge. Public health needs to be prioritised and that means closer integration with our local authorities. I do want to talk about discharge. Social care and the health sector working together isn't working at the moment. We have seen too many people sat in hospitals bed blocking, and the link between the health boards and our councils needs to be more integrated. I know, Minister, you will say that we now have the regional partnership boards in place to help deliver that, but with 1,000 people still waiting in beds, as Russell George has said, I'm not sure if that integration is working. And something I'd like to push you on is to make sure the regional partnership boards are delivering that. Minister, I don't want you to see this motion as an attack. I think emotions got very high earlier around this. Russell George, my colleague, put in some very good points on how we would like to see things improve across Wales, and that's what I want us to do here. The NHS isn't Labour's, it's not the Conservatives', it's not Plaid's, it's not the Liberal Democrats', it's the public's NHS. They pay their taxes, they expect a decent service, and that's why we as Welsh Conservatives will hold the Government to account on this. That is what we are here for, and that is why I urge all Members to support this motion in front of them today.
Welsh: Yr hyn yr ydym am ei weld yw amserlenni. Nid ydym yn gweld amserlenni digonol ar gyfer cyflawni'r pethau hyn. Rydym yn gweld yr hybiau llawfeddygol nad oes gan rai ohonom mohonynt; nid ydym yn gweld pryd y bydd hybiau llawfeddygol yn cael eu hagor ledled Cymru. Nid oes amserlen ar gyfer hynny - mae yn y cynllun. Nid ydym yn gweld lle mae'r holl arian hwn yn mynd i gael ei fuddsoddi. Rydym am weld hynny er mwyn inni allu craffu arno'n briodol. Oherwydd rydym yn croesawu hybiau llawfeddygol, Weinidog. Mae hynny'n rhywbeth rydych chi a minnau, a Russell George a fy mhlaid, wedi bod yn galw amdano ers blynyddoedd lawer, gan ein bod am weld nifer y bobl sy'n mynd i mewn i'r GIG yn cynyddu. Ond pan fydd y bobl hynny'n mynd i mewn, mae angen inni sicrhau bod digon o staff yno i sicrhau bod pobl yn cael eu gweld. Rwyf wedi dweud wrthych, ac fe'i dywedaf eto: rwy'n credu bod angen inni feddwl yn radical sut y cawn bobl i mewn i'r GIG, boed hynny drwy radd-brentisiaethau neu drwy ailwampio'n sylweddol y ffordd y daw pobl yn nyrsys neu'n feddygon. Mae llawer o bobl wedi sôn yn y Siambr hon - [ Torri ar draws.] Fe wnaf ychydig o gynnydd, Carolyn, a dof yn ôl atoch. Mae atal yn well na gwella. Mae llawer o bobl wedi dweud hynny. Ac rwy'n parchu safbwynt y Dirprwy Weinidog yma o geisio mynd i'r afael â hynny, ond mae angen inni wthio hyn yn gyflymach, yn gynt, i sicrhau ei fod yn cael ei gyflawni. Nid ydym am weld pobl sy'n dioddef o ordewdra ar restrau aros, gan fod hynny'n rhoi pwysau ar y GIG gydag oedi cyn rhyddhau. Mae angen blaenoriaethu iechyd y cyhoedd ac mae hynny'n golygu integreiddio'n agosach â'n hawdurdodau lleol. Hoffwn sôn am ryddhau o'r ysbyty. Nid yw gofal cymdeithasol a'r sector iechyd yn gweithio gyda'i gilydd yn gweithio ar hyn o bryd. Rydym wedi gweld gormod o bobl yn eistedd mewn ysbytai yn blocio gwelyau, ac mae angen i'r cysylltiad rhwng y byrddau iechyd a'n cynghorau fod yn fwy integredig. Weinidog, rwy'n gwybod y byddwch yn dweud bod gennym y byrddau partneriaeth rhanbarthol ar waith erbyn hyn i helpu i gyflawni hynny, ond gyda 1,000 o bobl yn dal i aros mewn gwelyau, fel y mae Russell George wedi dweud, nid wyf yn siŵr fod yr integreiddio hwnnw'n gweithio. A hoffwn bwyso arnoch i sicrhau bod y byrddau partneriaeth rhanbarthol yn cyflawni hynny. Weinidog, nid wyf am ichi ystyried y cynnig yn ymosodiad. Credaf fod cryn dipyn o gynnwrf yn gynharach mewn perthynas â hyn. Cyflwynodd Russell George, fy nghyd-Aelod, bwyntiau da iawn ynglŷn â sut yr hoffem weld pethau'n gwella ledled Cymru, a dyna yr hoffwn i ni ei wneud yma. Nid yw'r GIG yn eiddo i Lafur, nid yw'n eiddo i'r Ceidwadwyr, nid yw'n eiddo i Blaid Cymru, nid yw'n eiddo i'r Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol, mae'r GIG yn eiddo i'r cyhoedd. Maent yn talu eu trethi, maent yn disgwyl gwasanaeth addas, a dyna pam y byddwn ni fel Ceidwadwyr Cymreig yn dwyn y Llywodraeth i gyfrif ar hyn. Dyna pam ein bod ni yma, a dyna pam fy mod yn annog pob Aelod i gefnogi'r cynnig hwn sydd ger eu bron heddiw.