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English: You're out of time.
Welsh: Mae eich amser ar ben.
English: I would have taken it, but I'm not allowed to. This is just a step towards a mature and sensible democracy that scrutinises Government well. It is not controversial and it should go forward.
Welsh: Byddwn wedi'i gymryd, ond nid wyf yn cael gwneud hynny. Nid yw hyn ond cam tuag at ddemocratiaeth aeddfed a synhwyrol sy'n craffu'n dda ar y Llywodraeth. Nid yw'n ddadleuol a dylai fynd yn ei flaen.
English: For the purposes of Members, the clock unfortunately was reset after he had started, and therefore he had additional time. James Evans. [ Interruption.]
Welsh: Er gwybodaeth i'r Aelodau, yn anffodus cafodd y cloc ei ailosod ar ôl iddo ddechrau, ac felly fe gafodd amser ychwanegol. James Evans. [ Torri ar draws.]
English: No, thank you. You say the public voted for this in your manifestos, but there is nothing in your manifestos to say that we're going to have 96 more Members. Plaid Cymru came third in the last election - not first, not second, but third - so I don't think anybody on that side of this Chamber has got a mandate for change. We, on these benches, trust the public to make big decisions. We believe in empowering the people of Wales, and we believe that the public want and deserve a say on these matters. So, I say to Labour, Plaid Cymru and the Liberal Democrats, 'Pull the cotton wool out of your ears, stop hiding behind the sofa and let's have a referendum'.
Welsh: Na, diolch. Fe ddywedwch fod y cyhoedd wedi pleidleisio dros hyn yn eich maniffestos, ond nid oes dim yn eich maniffestos i ddweud y byddwn yn cael 96 yn fwy o Aelodau. Daeth Plaid Cymru yn drydydd yn yr etholiad diwethaf - nid yn gyntaf, nid yn ail, ond yn drydydd - felly nid wyf yn credu bod gan neb ar yr ochr honno i'r Siambr fandad ar gyfer newid. Rydym ni ar y meinciau hyn yn ymddiried yn y cyhoedd i wneud penderfyniadau mawr. Credwn mewn grymuso pobl Cymru, a chredwn fod y cyhoedd yn dymuno ac yn haeddu cael llais ar y materion hyn. Felly, dywedaf wrth Lafur, Plaid Cymru a'r Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol, 'Tynnwch y gwlân cotwm allan o'ch clustiau, rhowch y gorau i guddio y tu ôl i'r soffa a gadewch inni gael refferendwm'.
English: Simply, the Senedd should reflect the Wales that it serves. Its Members, those who speak for their communities in this place, those who scrutinise the impact of policy and legislation, and the way in which our nation is governed, must be representative of those communities. Currently, only 26 of the 60 Members sitting in this Chamber are women, although over half the population of Wales is female. Plaid Cymru has long argued for gender quotas as one approach that we can use to create a Senedd that is truly representative of the people of Wales. And the committee's recommendation for statutory gender quotas, given that this is the best way to promote gender equality among the elected Members, within all parties, is therefore to be greatly welcomed.
Welsh: Yn syml, dylai'r Senedd adlewyrchu'r Gymru y mae'n ei gwasanaethu. Rhaid i'w Haelodau, y rhai sy'n siarad dros eu cymunedau yn y lle hwn, sy'n craffu ar effaith polisi a deddfwriaeth a'r ffordd y caiff ein cenedl ei llywodraethu, fod yn gynrychioliadol o'r cymunedau hynny. Ar hyn o bryd, dim ond 26 o'r 60 sy'n eistedd yn y Siambr hon sy'n fenywod, er bod hanner poblogaeth Cymru - dros hanner poblogaeth Cymru - yn fenywod. Mae Plaid Cymru wedi dadlau ers tro dros gwotâu rhywedd fel un dull y gallwn ei ddefnyddio i greu Senedd sy'n wirioneddol gynrychioliadol o bobl Cymru. Ac mae argymhelliad y pwyllgor ar gyfer cwotâu rhywedd statudol, gan mai dyma'r dull gorau o hyrwyddo cydraddoldeb rhywedd ymhlith Aelodau etholedig, o fewn pob plaid, felly i'w groesawu'n fawr.
English: So, why are gender quotas a necessary step? How will they be effective? Well, gender quotas will provide a quick and simple solution to the unjustifiable fact of women's under-representation, or potential under-representation, in elected politics. International research shows that they are the single most effective tool for fast-tracking women's representation in elected bodies for Government, and they are used worldwide by over 100 countries. They are backed by the UN Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women, and, of course, the findings of the expert panel on Assembly electoral reform. So, the question, really, is: why aren't we doing this already, if we believe in equality?
Welsh: Felly, pam y mae cwotâu rhywedd yn gam angenrheidiol? Sut y byddant yn effeithiol? Wel, bydd cwotâu rhywedd yn rhoi ateb cyflym a syml i'r ffaith na ellir ei chyfiawnhau nad yw menywod wedi'u cynrychioli'n ddigonol, neu y gallent fod heb eu cynrychioli'n ddigonol, mewn gwleidyddiaeth etholedig. Dengys ymchwil ryngwladol mai hwy yw'r offeryn unigol mwyaf effeithiol ar gyfer cyflymu cynrychiolaeth menywod mewn cyrff etholedig ar gyfer Llywodraeth, ac fe'u defnyddir yn fyd-eang gan dros 100 o wledydd. Fe'u cefnogir gan Bwyllgor y Cenhedloedd Unedig ar Ddiddymu Gwahaniaethu yn erbyn Menywod, ac wrth gwrs, canfyddiadau'r panel arbenigol ar ddiwygio etholiadol y Cynulliad. Felly, y cwestiwn, mewn gwirionedd, yw: pam nad ydym yn gwneud hyn eisoes, os ydym yn credu mewn cydraddoldeb?
English: No, you've had enough say this afternoon, Darren. Well, there are those who believe that the playing field - [ Interruption.] There are those who believe that the playing field is already level -
Welsh: Na, rydych wedi cael digon o gyfle i roi eich barn y prynhawn yma, Darren. Wel, mae yna rai sy'n credu bod pethau - [ Torri ar draws.] Mae yna rai sy'n credu bod pethau eisoes yn deg -
English: We don't have the powers.
Welsh: Nid oes gennym y pwerau.
English: Again, we need timescales for this crucial work. It must not be swept aside. Hybrid working is also a key component of workplace practice, and it isn't mentioned, unfortunately, in the committee report. So, I would like to hear if the Government would consider addressing this as a part of Senedd reform.
Welsh: Unwaith eto, mae arnom angen amserlenni ar gyfer y gwaith hollbwysig hwn. Rhaid peidio â'i ysgubo o'r neilltu. Mae gweithio hybrid hefyd yn elfen allweddol o arfer y gweithle, ac yn anffodus, nid yw'n cael ei grybwyll yn adroddiad y pwyllgor. Felly, hoffwn glywed a fyddai'r Llywodraeth yn ystyried mynd i'r afael â hyn fel rhan o ddiwygio'r Senedd.
English: Can you conclude, because I have many Members who want to speak?
Welsh: A wnewch chi ddod i ben, oherwydd mae gennyf lawer o Aelodau sydd am siarad?
English: Yes. I hope this is only the first step of many towards a Senedd that truly reflects and represents the citizens it serves. As Mary Wollstonecraft said, 'The beginning is always today.' I'm glad to see that today is dawning.
Welsh: Gwnaf. Rwy'n gobeithio mai dim ond cam cyntaf o lawer yw hwn tuag at Senedd sy'n adlewyrchu ac yn cynrychioli'r dinasyddion y mae'n eu gwasanaethu. Fel y dywedodd Mary Wollstonecraft, 'Heddiw yw'r dechrau bob amser.' Rwy'n falch o weld heddiw'n gwawrio.
English: I've heard the diversity put to me. I turn around and look at the diversity on the backbench of the Conservative benches, and, I have to say, two female Members who occupy the frontbench here are away sick today and they have permission to be away sick. So, when you look at your own benches, where is the diversity there from ethnic minorities? Where are they? Where are they, John?
Welsh: Rwyf wedi clywed yr amrywiaeth yn cael ei ofyn i mi. Rwy'n troi ac yn edrych ar yr amrywiaeth ar feinciau cefn y Ceidwadwyr, ac mae'n rhaid imi ddweud, mae dau Aelod benywaidd sydd ar y fainc flaen yma yn sâl heddiw ac maent wedi cael caniatâd i fod yn absennol am eu bod yn sâl. Felly, pan edrychwch ar eich meinciau eich hun, ble mae'r amrywiaeth o leiafrifoedd ethnig? Ble maent? Ble, John?
English: There is further progress to be made, Andrew, but, come on, if you look at the diversity on the Labour benches now and throughout the history of devolution and compare it to your benches now and before, there's absolutely no comparison. [ Interruption.] Darren, there's no point labouring the point, just look to your own performance and your own party, organisations and structures. Dirprwy Lywydd, I know that we only have five minutes, so let me just say again that this is about better strategy, better policy and better delivery for the people of Wales. It's about better outcomes. There's a huge job to be done. I believe we can be a lot more radical - a lot more radical - in Wales. I believe we need to be, I believe we can be, but we need the resource to do that, and this further step that we will be taking today, and building on what I hope is the vote that will approve this next stage of Senedd reform today, will give us new opportunities to be that radical, reforming force and body that can properly deliver for our people in Wales.
Welsh: Mae cynnydd pellach i'w wneud, Andrew, ond dewch, os edrychwch ar yr amrywiaeth ar feinciau Llafur yn awr a thrwy gydol hanes datganoli a'i gymharu â'ch meinciau chi yn awr ac o'r blaen, nid oes cymhariaeth o gwbl. [ Torri ar draws.] Darren, nid oes diben dadlau'r pwynt, edrychwch ar eich perfformiad eich hun a'ch plaid, eich sefydliadau a'ch strwythurau chi eich hun. Ddirprwy Lywydd, gwn mai dim ond pum munud a gawn, felly gadewch imi ddweud eto fod a wnelo hyn â gwell strategaeth, gwell polisi a chyflawni'n well dros bobl Cymru. Mae'n ymwneud â chanlyniadau gwell. Mae gwaith enfawr i'w wneud. Credaf y gallwn fod yn llawer mwy radical - yn llawer mwy radical - yng Nghymru. Credaf fod angen inni fod, credaf y gallwn fod, ond mae arnom angen yr adnodd i wneud hynny, a bydd y cam pellach y byddwn yn ei gymryd heddiw, ac adeiladu ar yr hyn a fydd, gobeithio, yn bleidlais dros gymeradwyo'r cam nesaf o'r broses o ddiwygio'r Senedd heddiw, yn rhoi cyfleoedd newydd inni fod y grym a'r corff radical, arloesol a all gyflawni'n briodol ar gyfer ein pobl yng Nghymru.
English: I wasn't going to start with this, but I have to say that I'm saddened and quite sickened by some of the fake anger that I'm hearing from some contributors to this debate, where they berate increasing the size of the Senedd and the cost that comes with that. Those very same politicians don't bat an eyelid when the British Prime Minister wholesomely swells the ranks of the House of Lords. No calls for a referendum there, of course. And those, of course, are unelected representatives -
Welsh: Nid oeddwn am ddechrau gyda hyn, ond mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud fy mod wedi fy nhristáu a fy mlino gan beth o'r dicter ffug a glywaf gan rai o'r cyfranwyr yn y ddadl hon, lle maent yn grwgnach ynglŷn â chynyddu maint y Senedd a'r gost a ddaw yn sgil hynny. Nid yw'r gwleidyddion hynny'n poeni dim pan fydd Prif Weinidog Prydain yn chwyddo rhengoedd Tŷ'r Arglwyddi yn helaeth. Ni cheir galwadau am refferendwm yno, wrth gwrs. A chynrychiolwyr anetholedig yw'r rheini wrth gwrs -
English: No, I won't, sorry, because people have had their opportunity to contribute. They're unelected and, of course, many of them are appointed against the recommendation and advice of the appointments commissioner. Well, who was on about jobs for the boys five minutes ago? Who's been on about backroom deals and dark corridors? And when it comes to cost, we know that the House of Lords costs taxpayers £15 million a year in daily allowances alone. 'How many doctors and nurses is that?' I don't hear you say. You know, the refurbishment of the Palace of Westminster is going to be in the billions - some figures up to £18 billion. Eighteen billion pounds. That's eighteen thousand million pounds. And you're not bothered by that, but yet, when we talk about strengthening Welsh democracy, 'Oh, no. No, no, no. We can't have that, it costs too much. We need a referendum.' Come on. Your hypocrisy absolutely turns my stomach. Right, I'm going to say what I was supposed to say now.
Welsh: Na wnaf, mae'n ddrwg gennyf, oherwydd mae pobl wedi cael eu cyfle i gyfrannu. Nid ydynt wedi'u hethol ac wrth gwrs, penodir llawer ohonynt yn erbyn argymhelliad a chyngor y comisiynydd penodiadau. Wel, pwy oedd yn rhefru am swyddi i'r bechgyn bum munud yn ôl? Pwy oedd yn rhefru am fargeinion ystafell gefn a choridorau tywyll? A phan ddaw'n fater o gost, gwyddom fod Tŷ'r Arglwyddi yn costio £15 miliwn y flwyddyn i drethdalwyr mewn lwfansau dyddiol yn unig. Nid wyf yn eich clywed yn gofyn 'Faint o feddygon a nyrsys yw hynny?'. Wyddoch chi, mae'r gwaith o adnewyddu Palas San Steffan yn mynd i fod yn y biliynau - mae rhai ffigurau'n dweud hyd at £18 biliwn. Deunaw biliwn o bunnoedd. Mae hynny'n ddeunaw mil o filiynau o bunnoedd. Ac nid yw hynny'n eich poeni, ond eto, pan soniwn am gryfhau democratiaeth Cymru, 'O, na. Na, na, na. Ni allwn gael hynny, mae'n costio gormod. Mae arnom angen refferendwm.' Dewch wir. Mae eich rhagrith yn troi fy stumog yn llwyr. Iawn, rwy'n mynd i ddweud yr hyn roeddwn i fod i'w ddweud yn awr.
English: Now, I'm not supporting additional Members because I want to see more politicians, but we all have to accept that we need greater capacity to deal with the increased powers and responsibilities that we have. It stands to reason that additional devolved powers and additional law-making powers and additional tax-varying powers mean that there will be a greater pressure on existing capacity, and if you don't increase capacity to deal with that then what you're doing is you're diminishing the ability of the Senedd to use those powers effectively. I don't want a diminished Senedd. I don't want a Senedd that's less able to maximise its potential to improve the lives of the people of Wales. I want a Senedd that's firing on all cylinders and that's able to turn every stone in its scrutiny of Government, in its fulfilling of its legislative and fiscal responsibilities and, of course, in its ability to articulate the voices of the people of Wales in all of its diversity. So, less of the fake anger - support these proposals, because that is the way that will make all of that happen.
Welsh: Nawr, nid am fy mod am weld mwy o wleidyddion rwy'n cefnogi Aelodau ychwanegol, ond rhaid i bawb ohonom dderbyn bod arnom angen mwy o gapasiti i ymdrin â'r pwerau a'r cyfrifoldebau cynyddol sydd gennym. Mae'n gwneud synnwyr fod pwerau datganoledig ychwanegol a phwerau deddfu ychwanegol a phwerau ychwanegol i amrywio trethi yn golygu y bydd mwy o bwysau ar y capasiti presennol, ac os na chynyddwch y capasiti i ymdrin â hynny, yr hyn a wnewch yw lleihau gallu'r Senedd i ddefnyddio'r pwerau hynny'n effeithiol. Nid wyf am weld Senedd wedi'i lleihau. Nid wyf am gael Senedd sy'n llai abl i fanteisio i'r eithaf ar ei photensial i wella bywydau pobl Cymru. Rwyf am gael Senedd sydd mor effeithiol ag y gall fod ac sy'n gwneud popeth yn ei gallu i graffu ar y Llywodraeth, wrth iddi gyflawni ei chyfrifoldebau deddfwriaethol a chyllidol ac wrth gwrs, yn ei gallu i fynegi lleisiau pobl Cymru yn eu holl amrywiaeth. Felly, llai o'r dicter ffug - cefnogwch y cynigion hyn, am mai dyna'r ffordd o wneud i hynny i gyd ddigwydd.
English: According to my calculations, we are coming close to the end of the time. I have three speakers left. I intend to call all three speakers to have a full debate on this report, so I do apologise if we go over, but that is my intention. Alun Davies.
Welsh: Yn ôl fy nghyfrifiadau, rydym yn dod yn agos at ddiwedd yr amser. Mae gennyf dri siaradwr ar ôl. Bwriadaf alw ar y tri siaradwr i gael dadl lawn ar yr adroddiad hwn, felly rwy'n ymddiheuro os awn dros yr amser, ond dyna yw fy mwriad. Alun Davies.
English: When we considered these matters as a committee, it was actually the case that flexible lists could also allow for the zipping of candidates whilst still giving that direct accountability link. So, you could still have gender quotas if that's what people were persuaded that they wanted, but you could also have the opportunity to give that direct link to an individual to their constituents. Don't you think that that is a better system than closed lists?
Welsh: Pan oeddem yn ystyried y materion hyn fel pwyllgor, roedd yn wir y gallai rhestrau hyblyg ganiatáu ar gyfer creu rhestrau ymgeiswyr 'am yn ail' gan barhau i gynnig y cyswllt atebolrwydd uniongyrchol hwnnw. Felly, gallech ddal i gael cwotâu rhywedd os mai dyna oedd pobl am eu cael, ond gallech hefyd gael cyfle i roi cyswllt uniongyrchol rhwng unigolyn a'i etholwyr. Onid ydych yn credu bod honno'n system well na rhestrau caeedig?
English: No, I've listened to you too much - is to read out the speeches that were written all for you. And Darren Millar accepted in his introduction that he didn't really think about a referendum. It hadn't occurred to him that it was important until he was told it was important by the Secretary of State. And let me say this, and let me say this in closing -
Welsh: Na, rwyf wedi gwrando gormod arnoch - yw darllen yr areithiau a ysgrifennwyd ar eich rhan. Ac fe dderbyniodd Darren Millar yn ei gyflwyniad nad oedd yn meddwl am refferendwm mewn gwirionedd. Nid oedd wedi meddwl ei fod yn bwysig nes i'r Ysgrifennydd Gwladol ddweud wrtho ei fod yn bwysig. A gadewch imi ddweud hyn, a gadewch imi ddweud hyn wrth gloi -
English: I can see the time. The Conservatives have never ever recognised the democratic mandate of the people of Wales. When the people of Wales - [ Interruption.] When the people of Wales - [ Interruption.] When the people of Wales - [ Interruption. ] When the people of Wales - [ Interruption.] I'll carry on, I've got the microphone working now.
Welsh: Gallaf weld yr amser. Nid yw'r Ceidwadwyr erioed wedi cydnabod mandad democrataidd pobl Cymru. Pan fydd pobl Cymru - [ Torri ar draws.] Pan fydd pobl Cymru - [ Torri ar draws.] Pan fydd pobl Cymru - [ Torri ar draws. ] Pan fydd pobl Cymru - [ Torri ar draws.] Fe wnaf barhau, mae'r microffon yn gweithio yn awr.
English: I want to hear him finish so that we can get other speakers in.
Welsh: Rwyf am ei glywed yn gorffen er mwyn inni gael siaradwyr eraill i mewn.
English: When the people of Wales voted for devolution in September 1997, the Conservative Party in the Westminster Parliament voted against the legislation in December 1997, and you need to remember that. And the people of Wales also elected a Government and a Parliament committed to reform. You can either come down the route with us and ensure that that reform is agreed across the whole of this Chamber -
Welsh: Pan bleidleisiodd pobl Cymru dros ddatganoli ym mis Medi 1997, pleidleisiodd y Blaid Geidwadol yn Senedd San Steffan yn erbyn y ddeddfwriaeth ym mis Rhagfyr 1997, ac mae angen ichi gofio hynny. Ac fe wnaeth pobl Cymru ethol Llywodraeth a Senedd hefyd a oedd wedi ymrwymo i ddiwygio. Gallwch naill ai ddod ar hyd y llwybr gyda ni a sicrhau ein bod yn cytuno ar y diwygiad hwnnw ar draws y Siambr gyfan -
English: Alun, you need to finish now.
Welsh: Alun, mae angen ichi orffen yn awr.
English: - which is what I would prefer, or I'm afraid you're on the route to irrelevance.
Welsh: - sef yr hyn yr hoffwn ei weld, neu mae arnaf ofn eich bod ar y llwybr tuag at fod yn amherthnasol.
English: I want to express my absolute disappointment at the proposals of Welsh Labour and Plaid Cymru to increase the number of Senedd Members in this place, and I want to do so for three main reasons. Firstly, you have to be well aware that the UK Government is not going to increase the Welsh Government budget to reflect this increase in Members, so what Welsh Labour and Plaid Cymru are proposing is to take an estimated £100 million out of the funds available for healthcare, out of the funds available for education, and out of the funds available for far more vital services, to pay - and let's be honest - for more politicians. It is incredible that this Government's response to the worst education standards in the UK, the lowest pay for people in every sector compared to the rest of the UK - and even before COVID, almost a quarter of the population of Wales were in poverty - is to take £100 million off these people so that this place can presumably talk more about how they can try and help them. Secondly, I'm appalled that the First Minister would not even consider giving the people of Wales a say on this matter. Yesterday the First Minister, in response to my colleague Darren Millar, said that the people of Wales had chosen this when they voted in the last Senedd elections, but this is simply not the case. There was no mention whatsoever in the Welsh Labour manifesto, and let's be honest, this was not even widely discussed as an issue during the campaign on the doorstep. This Government needs to ground itself -
Welsh: Hoffwn fynegi fy siom lwyr ynghylch cynigion Llafur Cymru a Phlaid Cymru i gynyddu nifer yr Aelodau o'r Senedd yn y lle hwn, ac rwyf am wneud hynny am dri phrif reswm. Yn gyntaf, rhaid eich bod yn ymwybodol iawn nad yw Llywodraeth y DU yn mynd i gynyddu cyllideb Llywodraeth Cymru i adlewyrchu'r cynnydd yn nifer yr Aelodau, felly yr hyn y mae Llafur Cymru a Phlaid Cymru yn ei gynnig yw tynnu tua £100 miliwn allan o'r arian sydd ar gael ar gyfer gofal iechyd, o'r arian sydd ar gael ar gyfer addysg, ac o'r arian sydd ar gael ar gyfer gwasanaethau llawer mwy hanfodol, i dalu - a gadewch inni fod yn onest - am fwy o wleidyddion. Mae'n anhygoel mai ymateb y Llywodraeth hon i'r safonau addysg gwaethaf yn y DU, y cyflogau isaf i bobl ym mhob sector o'i gymharu â gweddill y DU - a hyd yn oed cyn COVID, roedd bron i chwarter poblogaeth Cymru yn byw mewn tlodi - yw mynd â £100 miliwn oddi ar y bobl hyn fel y gall y lle hwn, mae'n debyg, siarad mwy ynglŷn â sut y gallant geisio eu helpu. Yn ail, rwy'n arswydo na fyddai'r Prif Weinidog hyd yn oed yn ystyried rhoi llais i bobl Cymru ar y mater hwn. Ddoe, dywedodd y Prif Weinidog, mewn ymateb i fy nghyd-Aelod, Darren Millar, fod pobl Cymru wedi dewis hyn pan wnaethant bleidleisio yn etholiadau diwethaf y Senedd, ond nid yw hyn yn wir. Nid oedd sôn o gwbl ym maniffesto Llafur Cymru, a gadewch inni fod yn onest, nid oedd hyn yn cael ei drafod yn eang hyd yn oed yn ystod yr ymgyrch ar garreg y drws. Mae angen i'r Llywodraeth hon wynebu -
English: Joel, will you take an intervention?
Welsh: Joel, a wnewch chi dderbyn ymyriad?
English: How long - ? No, sorry. Go on, yes.
Welsh: Pa mor hir - ? Na, mae'n ddrwg gennyf. Ewch ymlaen.
English: Please be brief, because we are going beyond time.
Welsh: Byddwch yn fyr, oherwydd rydym yn mynd dros yr amser.
English: I've listened with interest, as I always do, to the Conservative Members, but can I ask, if it is your view that it is not legitimate to introduce a change to the electoral system without a referendum, why did your Conservative Government at Westminster not introduce that clause into the Wales Act 2017? What you did was you said that it was subject to two thirds of the Members of this Senedd voting in favour. Why didn't you do it then, if it's such an important principle now?
Welsh: Rwyf wedi gwrando gyda diddordeb, fel y gwnaf bob amser, ar yr Aelodau Ceidwadol, ond a gaf fi ofyn, os mai eich barn chi yw nad yw'n ddilys cyflwyno newid i'r system etholiadol heb refferendwm, pam na chyflwynodd eich Llywodraeth Geidwadol yn San Steffan y cymal hwnnw yn Neddf Cymru 2017? Yr hyn a wnaethoch oedd dweud ei fod yn amodol ar ddwy ran o dair o'r Aelodau o'r Senedd hon yn pleidleisio o blaid. Pam na wnaethoch chi hynny bryd hynny, os yw'n egwyddor mor bwysig yn awr?