English: Can I thank the Deputy Minister for his statement this afternoon? Also, can I acknowledge both Lee Waters's and Ken Skates's personal commitment to the cause of carbon-free transport? One cannot doubt that the aims outlined in this report are, indeed, laudable aims. We all want to see a greater use of public transport, more active travel and less use of cars, and where it is not possible to replace car transport, as many as possible should be electric. In fact, my colleague Caroline Jones has just shown her commitment by purchasing such a vehicle. It is comforting to see that there will be substantial financial backing towards achieving these ambitious goals. I particularly welcome the £70 million interest-free loan to Blaenau Gwent borough council to make improvements to the Ebbw Vale line, but can I ask whether this loan will be ring-fenced? As one can see, I wish to support these ambitions in their entirety. However, can I issue a note of warning? The transition from car to alternative forms of transport must be gradual. People must be encouraged to make the switch, not penalised for not doing so. There are many who will never be able to use public transport for work purposes, and many more outside urban areas who will not be able to switch to the bicycle to access their work. It is therefore essential that any punitive measures taken by the Government to help implement their ambitions must take these factors into consideration. Would the Minister, please, address this? We must remember that there are many in society who would relish the opportunity to switch to a brand-new electric car, but who are far too financially impoverished to be able to do so. We have to accept that there will be many old cars on our roads for some time to come, simply because many cannot afford better but will still have to use them for both leisure and work. Focusing on electric cars, we will have to have a substantial increase in charging facilities across not only Wales but the UK as a whole if we are to see an exponential take-up in their use. We also have to contend with the fact that the grid system in Wales will not -
Welsh: A gaf i ddiolch i'r Dirprwy Weinidog am ei ddatganiad y prynhawn yma? Hefyd, a gaf i gydnabod ymrwymiad personol Lee Waters a Ken Skates i achos trafnidiaeth ddi-garbon? Ni ellir amau nad yw'r nodau a amlinellir yn yr adroddiad hwn, yn wir, yn nodau canmoladwy. Rydym ni i gyd eisiau gweld mwy o ddefnydd o drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus, mwy o deithio llesol a llai o ddefnydd o geir, a lle nad yw'n bosibl disodli trafnidiaeth ceir, dylai cynifer â phosibl fod yn drydanol. Yn wir, mae fy nghyd-Aelod Caroline Jones newydd ddangos ei hymrwymiad drwy brynu cerbyd o'r fath. Mae'n gysur gweld y bydd cefnogaeth ariannol sylweddol tuag at gyflawni'r nodau uchelgeisiol hyn. Croesawaf yn arbennig y benthyciad di-log o £70 miliwn i gyngor bwrdeistref Blaenau Gwent i wneud gwelliannau i reilffordd Glynebwy, ond a gaf i ofyn a fydd y benthyciad hwn yn cael ei neilltuo? Fel y gwelir, hoffwn gefnogi'r uchelgeisiau hyn yn eu cyfanrwydd. Fodd bynnag, a gaf i roi gair o rybudd? Rhaid i'r newid o gar i fathau amgen o drafnidiaeth fod yn raddol. Rhaid annog pobl i wneud y newid, nid eu cosbi am beidio â gwneud hynny. Mae llawer na fyddant byth yn gallu defnyddio trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus at ddibenion gwaith, a llawer mwy y tu allan i ardaloedd trefol na fyddant yn gallu newid i'r beic i gael mynediad i'w gwaith. Felly, mae'n hanfodol bod yn rhaid i unrhyw gosbi y mae'r Llywodraeth yn ei wneud i helpu i weithredu eu huchelgeisiau ystyried y ffactorau hyn. A wnaiff y Gweinidog, os gwelwch yn dda, fynd i'r afael â hyn? Rhaid inni gofio bod llawer mewn cymdeithas a fyddai'n mwynhau'r cyfle i newid i gar trydan newydd sbon, ond sy'n llawer rhy dlawd yn ariannol i allu gwneud hynny. Rhaid inni dderbyn y bydd llawer o hen geir ar ein ffyrdd am beth amser i ddod, dim ond oherwydd na all llawer ohonyn nhw fforddio rhai gwell ond y bydd yn rhaid iddyn nhw eu defnyddio o hyd ar gyfer hamdden a gwaith. Gan ganolbwyntio ar geir trydan, bydd yn rhaid inni gael cynnydd sylweddol mewn cyfleusterau gwefru ar draws nid yn unig Cymru ond y DU gyfan os ydym ni eisiau gweld cynnydd mawr yn eu defnydd. Rhaid inni hefyd ymgodymu â'r ffaith na fydd y system grid yng Nghymru -