English: Well, as I said earlier, I don't quite follow the rationale of Government in this regard. The Minister said that they wanted to retain the standards where they have already been imposed, and that suggests that the Government believes that they are working. If you think that they don't work, then they should be scrapped. The legislation should be repealed and there should be a return to the Welsh Language Act 1993, if you think that it simply isn't working. Having said that she is going to retain the standards imposed on the 107 bodies - or however many it is - already subject to them, she then says that she isn't going to extend them to the utilities and telecommunication. I will repeat what I said: there was some lobbying from these sectors against legislation at the time, because companies usually don't want any sort of legislation that restricts their ability to do what they want to do. But the First Minister of the day, Rhodri Morgan, was determined not only that we were going to legislate, but to include the utilities too. So, I don't understand. If it succeeds in one sector, why wouldn't you roll it out to another sector that the public has to deal with? You don't choose to have electricity at home, or you don't choose to have water at home, they are necessary, and, therefore, you deal with those companies, and I would say the same about telecommunications. I would like to expand it then to areas such as banking and so on, but they aren't included within the scope of the legislation. The Government or the Minister then says that we need a shift. She talks about a carrot and stick, doesn't she? Well, all our experience of the financial sector tells us that the carrot without the stick doesn't work particularly well, as far as I can see. Then she goes on to say that we need more emphasis on promotion and less on regulation, as if she were shifting a great pot of money. There isn't a huge amount of money involved here. The Commissioner doesn't have a huge budget. What is that budget? Three million pounds. Well, £3 million isn't going to make much difference in terms of promoting the Welsh language. Therefore, this idea that you are shifting major resources from regulation to promotion is a false option. It's not rational; it's not based on anything. I think this choice between regulation or promotion is a nonsense. If you follow film at all, you will know that there is a trick that scriptwriters use. They call it a MacGuffin, and what a MacGuffin is is when you want a twist in the plot but you're not quite sure what to do, so either you do it and hide it or you put it front and centre for the viewer and they simply accept it because it is so apparent. The famous one is Casablanca, but I won't go into that, where they say something as a fact in the beginning that isn't true at all, but the whole plot of Casablanca relies on this untruth at the beginning. David Melding is clearly a cultured man -
Welsh: Wel, fel rydw i wedi dweud yn gynt, nid ydw i cweit yn dilyn rhesymeg y Llywodraeth yn hyn o beth. Mi ddywedodd y Gweinidog eu bod nhw eisiau cadw'r safonau ar y cyrff sydd wedi eu derbyn nhw yn barod. Mae hynny'n awgrymu bod y Llywodraeth yn meddwl eu bod nhw'n gweithio. Os ydych chi'n meddwl nad ydyn nhw'n gweithio, dylech chi eu dileu nhw. Dylech chi jest ddileu'r ddeddf a mynd yn ôl i Ddeddf yr Iaith Gymraeg 1993 os ydych chi'n credu nad ydyn nhw'n gweithio. Ar ôl dweud ei bod hi'n cadw'r safonau ar y 107 - neu beth bynnag ydy o - o gyrff sydd wedi eu derbyn nhw, mae hi wedyn yn dweud nad ydy hi'n mynd i'w ehangu nhw i'r cyfleustodau a thelegyfathrebu. Mi wnaf i ailadrodd yr hyn a ddywedais i: mi oedd yna lobïo gan y sectorau yma yn erbyn deddfu ar y pryd, oherwydd nad ydy cwmnïau, fel arfer, eisiau unrhyw ddeddf sydd yn cyfyngu ar eu hawl nhw i wneud beth maen nhw eisiau ei wneud. Ond roedd Prif Weinidog y dydd, Rhodri Morgan, yn bendant nid yn unig ein bod ni'n mynd i ddeddfu ond ein bod ni'n mynd i gynnwys y cyfleustodau. Felly, nid ydw i'n deall sut - os ydy o'n llwyddiant mewn un sector, pam nad ydych chi'n ei ehangu o i sector arall y mae'r cyhoedd yn gorfod delio â hi? Nid dewis cael trydan ydw i yn y tŷ, nid dewis cael dŵr yn y tŷ ydw i, mae'n rhaid imi eu cael nhw, felly, rydw i'n delio â rheini, ac mi allwch chi wneud yr un ddadl am delegyfathrebu. Buaswn i'n licio ei hehangu hi wedyn i feysydd fel banciau ac yn y blaen, ond nid ydyn nhw o fewn sgôp y ddeddf. Mae'r Llywodraeth wedyn, neu'r Gweinidog, yn dweud bod eisiau sifftio wedyn. Mae hi'n sôn am carrot and stick, onid ydy hi? Wel, wyddoch chi, mae profiad pawb ohonom ni efo'r sector ariannol yn dweud wrthych chi nad ydy carrot heb y stick yn gweithio'n dda iawn, hyd y gallaf i weld. Wedyn, mae hi'n symud ymlaen i ddweud bod eisiau mwy o bwyslais ar hyrwyddo a llai ar reoleiddio, fel petasai hi'n sifftio rhyw arian mawr. Wel, nid oes yna arian mawr yn y rheoleiddio yma. Nid oes arian mawr gan y comisiynydd. Beth ydy cyllideb y comisiynydd? Tair miliwn o bunnoedd. Nid ydy £3 miliwn yn mynd i wneud llawer o wahaniaeth o ran hyrwyddo'r Gymraeg. Felly, mae'r syniad yma eich bod chi'n symud rhyw adnoddau mawr o reoleiddio i hyrwyddo yn - wel, mae o'n ddewis ffals. Nid ydy o'n rhesymegol; nid ydy o'n seiliedig ar ddim byd. Rydw i'n meddwl bod y dewis yma o ddweud 'rheoleiddio neu hyrwyddo' yn nonsens. Os ydych chi'n dilyn ffilm o gwbl, fe fyddwch chi'n gwybod bod yna dric y mae sgriptiwr yn ei wneud. Mae'n nhw'n ei alw fo'n MacGuffin, a beth ydy MacGuffin ydy pan ydych chi eisiau creu tro yn y plot ond nid ydych chi'n siŵr iawn beth i'w wneud. Felly, un ai rydych chi'n ei wneud o a'i guddio fo, neu rydych chi'n ei roi o yn wyneb y gwyliwr ac mae e jest yn ei dderbyn o achos mae o mor amlwg. Yr un enwog ydy Casablanca, ond af i ddim i mewn i hwnnw. Achos maen nhw'n dweud rhywbeth fel ffaith ar y dechrau nad yw'n wir o gwbl, ond mae holl blot Casablanca yn dibynnu ar y celwydd yma ar y dechrau. Mae'n amlwg bod David Melding yn ddyn diwylliedig -