English: Despite what we've heard from one direction this afternoon, there is a general consensus in Wales that policing should be devolved to Wales, as has happened in Scotland, Northern Ireland, London and Manchester. I want to focus on two arguments why it makes sense to devolve to Wales. Effective policing means an effective and close relationship with the devolved services in Wales, and devolving the police would reflect much better the circumstances that exist in Wales, and it would improve the essential dovetailing between the different emergency services and the public services. Ultimately, that would improve services, and, further still, it would improve the services in a way that would improve the quality of lives of people in Wales - something that, hopefully, everyone in this Chamber is eager to see happening. Another argument that we haven't heard yet this afternoon is that devolving police would also improve accountability. The Silk commission found that the current situation is unsatisfactory, noting that a great deal of the police funding comes from devolved sources, despite the fact that the strategic policies for policing issues are decided in Westminster. There's a mismatch there. There is an acknowledgement that accountability is a problem, and that's what lay behind the foundation of the police and crime commissioners. However, it could be argued that they should be got rid of if policing is devolved. I don't want to go there this afternoon, but deciding how local accountability would happen is a matter for further discussion. But, certainly, this does give us an opportunity to think about new ways of strengthening the accountability that is very much needed. So, in terms of improving that vital dovetailing between policing and public services, and to improve police accountability, it makes sense to devolve the police. Those are just two arguments. You've heard other arguments this afternoon, and there are many other reasons and a great deal of debate to be had to create the case for the devolution of policing to Wales. Thank you very much to Steffan Lewis, Mike Hedges, and Julie Morgan for bringing this forward this afternoon. I very much hope that we will at least have a very respectable majority in favour of this motion. Thank you.
Welsh: Er gwaethaf beth yr ydym ni wedi ei glywed o un cyfeiriad y prynhawn yma, mae yna gonsensws cyffredinol yng Nghymru y dylid datganoli heddlua i Gymru, fel sydd wedi digwydd yn yr Alban, Gogledd Iwerddon, Llundain a Manceinion. Rydw i am ganolbwyntio ar ddwy ddadl pam mae'n gwneud synnwyr i ddatganoli i Gymru. Mae plismona effeithiol yn golygu perthynas effeithiol ac agos efo'r gwasanaethau datganoledig yng Nghymru, ac mi fyddai datganoli'r heddlu yn adlewyrchu yn llawer gwell yr amgylchiadau sydd yn bodoli yng Nghymru, ac mi fyddai fo'n gwella'r plethiad angenrheidiol rhwng yr holl wasanaethau brys a'r gwasanaethau cyhoeddus. Ac, yn y pen draw, mi fyddai hynny'n gwella'r gwasanaethau, ac yn y pen draw un, mi fyddai gwella'r gwasanaethau yn gwella ansawdd bywyd pobl Cymru - rhywbeth, gobeithio, y mae pawb yn y Siambr yma yn ei ddeisyfu. A dyma gyflwyno dadl arall nad ydym ni wedi ei chlywed cyn belled y prynhawn yma. Mi fyddai datganoli'r heddlu hefyd yn gwella atebolrwydd. Roedd comisiwn Silk yn canfod bod y sefyllfa bresennol yn anfoddhaol, gan nodi bod llawer o gyllid yr heddlu'n dod o ffynonellau datganoledig, er gwaethaf y ffaith bod polisi strategol a materion yr heddlu yn cael eu penderfynu yn San Steffan. Mae yna 'mismatch' yn y fanna. Mae yna gydnabyddiaeth bod atebolrwydd yn broblem, a dyna oedd y tu ôl i greu'r comisiynwyr heddlu a throsedd. Er, mae modd dadlau y dylid, efallai, gael eu gwared nhw os byddai plismona'n cael ei ddatganoli. Nid wyf yn mynd i fynd i'r fanna y prynhawn yma, ond mi fyddai sut yn union y byddai'r atebolrwydd lleol yn digwydd yn fater ar gyfer trafodaeth bellach. Ond, yn sicr, mae hyn yn rhoi cyfle inni feddwl am ddulliau newydd o gryfhau'r atebolrwydd sydd fawr ei angen. Felly, o ran gwella'r plethiad angenrheidiol rhwng yr heddlu a'r holl wasanaethau cyhoeddus, ac er mwyn gwella atebolrwydd yr heddlu, mae'n gwneud synnwyr datganoli'r heddlu. Dwy ddadl yn unig - rydych chi wedi clywed dadleuon eraill hefyd, ac mae yna lawer mwy o resymau a llawer mwy i ddadlau yn ei gylch i greu'r achos dros ddatganoli heddlua i Gymru. Diolch yn fawr iawn i Steffan Lewis, Mike Hedges, a Julie Morgan am ddod â hwn gerbron heddiw, ac rydw i'n mawr obeithio y cawn ni o leiaf fwyafrif teilwng iawn o blaid y cynnig. Diolch.