English: I'll join with other Members in the Chamber in saying what lovely people the Conservatives are and how wonderful it would be to see them engaging with this. Llyr, don't say, 'Don't go that far' - I think it would be a really good thing if they engaged. [ Laughter.] Llywydd, I'll use your words that you said to the committee, and the Chair has already mentioned it. You said of Westminster MPs that, of the over 600 MPs, over 100 sit on no committees at all, and in your words, you said they 'take no part in Government or shadow Government, and - . I wouldn't know what they do.' You said: 'I wouldn't know what that life must be like, to turn up to the Parliament and then not have anything to do for the week.' And that is quite a long way from our experiences. Of every single person in this Chamber, that is quite a very, very big distance from our experiences, being on two or more committees, spending weekends getting your head around your papers for two committees in the following week, for those of us who are on committees. And I can't imagine, then, how Government Ministers balance both constituency work and being in Government. It must be absolute hell for work-life balance. I cannot imagine ever being in that position, especially with two young children. I can't imagine how it's done with the numbers we currently have and the workload we currently have. But with regard to the more popular argument for persuading people, I think you need to say to people, 'If a Government Minister is under scrutiny, what would you prefer? Would you prefer them to have lots of people scrutinising what they do, or fewer people scrutinising what they do?' And I would say that people would say, 'Well, I'd rather there were lots of people who are experts in small, limited areas scrutinising Government, rather than a few people trying to do everything.' You get better scrutiny, I believe, with more Members - [ Interruption.] - and also the depth of the scrutiny becomes better as well. I'm sorry, I'd love to take an intervention, but it's a statement, so I can't do that. But I don't know you've just said, Janet Finch-Saunders, I'm sorry. And the other issue is electoral fairness and clarity. Electoral fairness and clarity. I've had complaints, Delyth Jewell, from constituents in Nelson who've said they've received Plaid Cymru leaflets saying that I was no longer the Assembly Member and Delyth Jewell was the Assembly Member. And they were complaining to me, 'When did you stand down?' Well, of course, that wasn't what you did, you just put a leaflet out saying, 'I'm the Assembly Member for South Wales East and I'm here to help you.' Of course you did, I don't think you did anything wrong. Delyth, if you'd have done anything wrong, I'd have gone straight to the standards commissioner. [ Laughter. ]
Welsh: Fe ymunaf ag Aelodau eraill yn y Siambr i ddweud pobl mor hyfryd yw'r Ceidwadwyr a pha mor wych fyddai eu gweld yn ymwneud â hyn. Llyr, peidiwch â dweud, 'Peidiwch â mynd mor bell â hynny' - rwy'n credu y byddai'n beth da iawn pe baent yn cymryd rhan. [ Chwerthin.] Lywydd, fe ddefnyddiaf eich geiriau chi i'r pwyllgor, ac mae'r Cadeirydd eisoes wedi sôn am hyn. Fe ddywedoch chi am ASau San Steffan fod dros 100 o'r dros 600 o Aelodau Seneddol heb fod yn aelodau o unrhyw bwyllgorau o gwbl, ac yn eich geiriau chi, fe ddywedoch chi nad ydynt yn cymryd unrhyw ran yn y Llywodraeth na'r wrthblaid, ac - . Nid wyf yn gwybod beth y maent yn ei wneud. Fe ddywedoch chi: Nid wyf yn gwybod sut beth yw'r bywyd hwnnw, dod i'r Senedd a pheidio â chael dim i'w wneud am yr wythnos. Ac mae hynny'n bell iawn o'n profiadau ni. Mae hynny'n bell iawn o brofiad pob un yn y Siambr hon, a ninnau ar ddau neu fwy o bwyllgorau, yn treulio penwythnosau'n ceisio deall ein papurau ar gyfer dau bwyllgor yr wythnos ganlynol, i'r rheini ohonom sydd ar bwyllgorau. Ac ni allaf ddychmygu, felly, sut y mae Gweinidogion y Llywodraeth yn cydbwyso gwaith etholaethol a bod mewn Llywodraeth. Mae'n rhaid ei fod yn uffern llwyr o ran cydbwysedd gwaith a bywyd. Ni allaf ddychmygu bod yn y sefyllfa honno byth, yn enwedig gyda dau o blant ifanc. Ni allaf ddychmygu sut y caiff ei wneud gyda'r niferoedd sydd gennym ar hyn o bryd a'r llwyth gwaith sydd gennym ar hyn o bryd. Ond o ran y ddadl fwy poblogaidd dros berswadio pobl, credaf fod angen ichi ddweud wrth bobl, 'Os yw Gweinidog Llywodraeth yn destun craffu, beth fyddai orau gennych? A fyddai'n well gennych iddynt gael llawer o bobl yn craffu ar yr hyn a wnânt, neu lai o bobl yn craffu ar yr hyn a wnânt?' A buaswn yn dweud y byddai pobl yn dweud, 'Wel, byddai'n well gennyf fod llawer o bobl yn arbenigwyr mewn meysydd bach, cyfyngedig yn craffu ar y Llywodraeth, yn hytrach na bod ychydig o bobl yn ceisio gwneud popeth.' Rwy'n credu eich bod yn cael craffu gwell gyda mwy o Aelodau - [ Torri ar draws.] - a hefyd mae dyfnder y craffu yn dod yn well yn ogystal. Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, buaswn wrth fy modd yn derbyn ymyriad, ond datganiad ydyw, felly ni allaf wneud hynny. Ond nid wyf yn gwybod beth rydych newydd ei ddweud, Janet Finch-Saunders, mae'n ddrwg gennyf. A'r mater arall yw tegwch etholiadol ac eglurder. Tegwch etholiadol ac eglurder. Rwyf wedi cael cwynion, Delyth Jewell, gan etholwyr yn Nelson sydd wedi dweud eu bod wedi derbyn taflenni gan Blaid Cymru yn dweud nad fi oedd yr Aelod Cynulliad mwyach ac mai Delyth Jewell oedd yr Aelod Cynulliad. Ac roeddent yn cwyno wrthyf, 'Pa bryd y rhoesoch chi'r gorau iddi?' Wel, wrth gwrs, nid dyna a wnaethoch, dim ond dosbarthu taflen wnaethoch chi, yn dweud, 'Fi yw'r Aelod Cynulliad dros Ddwyrain De Cymru ac rwyf yma i'ch helpu.' Wrth gwrs mai dyna a wnaethoch, nid wyf yn credu i chi wneud unrhyw beth o'i le. Delyth, pe baech chi wedi gwneud unrhyw beth o'i le, buaswn wedi mynd yn syth at y comisiynydd safonau. [ Chwerthin. ]