English: Well, I thank Jenny Rathbone very much for her support and the support she has given to this as well in the past. I certainly agree that becoming a parent doesn't come easily and you're not given something that tells you how you should be a parent. Obviously, there are many stresses on parents, and she refers to the changes in welfare benefits, which, of course, does bring additional stress. I think the point that she makes about the child being defenceless is a very strong point, because I think that's what really got me involved in this in the beginning - the thought of a big person using physical punishment against a little person. I mean, it just does not seem right that that should happen. That's really what made me feel very strongly right from the beginning that this is something that we should legislate about. So, I certainly support her in the fact that children are so defenceless. And, it does seem to me, why is it necessary to think that you do need to be able to use physical punishment in order to bring up your child? So, I am hoping that when we have the opportunity to discuss these issues widely - and I think during the passage of this Bill, we will have that opportunity to discuss all aspects of parenting, which I think will be a help to families and children - people who are very concerned about it perhaps will be able to change their views. And I'm thinking of her constituent, who, I concur, I'm sure is a very good parent, but obviously feels the need to be able to use physical punishment against her child. In terms of the research, I think I did say when I was responding to the research that the majority of researchers in the field make the judgment that all physical punishment under all conditions is potentially harmful to children and there is no need to take this risk when there are non-physical approaches to discipline available. Obviously, there is a variety of views; researchers do present a variety of views, but that is the overall conclusion. But, there has been more recent research that has come out, which is quite wide research, bringing in different pieces of research, which does say that anti-social behaviour, particularly among young teenagers, can be associated with using physical punishment at an early age - that they are more likely to get involved in fights. So, that is a fairly recent bit of research. But, once again, I thank Jenny Rathbone for her support and her contribution.
Welsh: Wel, rwy'n diolch yn fawr i Jenny Rathbone am ei chefnogaeth a'r cymorth a roddwyd ganddi hi i hwn yn ogystal ag yn y gorffennol. Rwy'n sicr yn cytuno nad peth hawdd yw bod yn rhiant ac nid ydych yn cael unrhyw beth sy'n dweud wrthych chi sut mae bod yn rhiant. Yn amlwg, ceir llawer o bwysau ar rieni, ac mae hi'n cyfeirio at y newidiadau mewn budd-daliadau lles, sydd, wrth gwrs, yn dod â straen ychwanegol. Rwy'n credu bod y pwynt a wna am blant yn ddiamddiffyn yn bwynt cryf iawn, oherwydd credaf mai dyna mewn gwirionedd a barodd imi ymwneud â hyn ar y cychwyn - meddwl am berson mawr yn defnyddio cosb gorfforol yn erbyn person bach. Hynny yw, nid yw'n iawn o gwbl fod hynny'n gallu digwydd. Dyna'r hyn a wnaeth i mi deimlo'n gryf iawn iawn o'r cychwyn cyntaf mewn gwirionedd fod hwn yn rhywbeth y dylem ni ddeddfu yn ei gylch. Felly, rwy'n sicr yn ei chefnogi hi yn y ffaith bod plant mor ddiamddiffyn. A pham mae angen tybio bod yn rhaid ichi allu defnyddio cosb gorfforol er mwyn magu eich plentyn? Felly, rwy'n gobeithio pan gawn ni'r cyfle i drafod y materion hyn yn eang - ac yn ystod hynt y Bil hwn rwy'n credu y bydd gennym ni'r cyfle i drafod pob agwedd ar rianta, ac rwy'n credu y bydd hynny'n gymorth i deuluoedd a phlant - a bydd y bobl sy'n ofidus iawn am hyn efallai yn gallu newid eu meddwl. Ac rwy'n meddwl am ei hetholwraig, sydd, rwy'n cytuno, yn siŵr o fod yn rhiant da iawn, ond mae'n amlwg ei bod yn teimlo'r angen i allu defnyddio cosb gorfforol yn erbyn ei phlentyn. O ran yr ymchwil, rwy'n credu fy mod i wedi dweud pan oeddwn i'n ymateb i'r ymchwil fod y rhan fwyaf o'r ymchwilwyr yn y maes yn dyfarnu bod pob cosb gorfforol o bosibl yn niweidiol i blentyn mewn unrhyw amgylchiad ac nid oes angen cymryd y risg hwn pan fo dulliau ar gael nad ydyn nhw'n ddisgyblaeth gorfforol. Yn amlwg, ceir amrywiaeth o safbwyntiau; mae ymchwilwyr yn cyflwyno amrywiaeth o safbwyntiau, ond dyna yw'r casgliad yn gyffredinol. Ond cafodd ymchwil mwy diweddar ei gyhoeddi, sef ymchwil eithaf eang, gan ddwyn ynghyd wahanol ddarnau o ymchwil, sy'n dweud y gall ymddygiad gwrthgymdeithasol, yn enwedig ymhlith pobl ifanc yn eu harddegau, fod yn gysylltiedig â defnyddio cosb gorfforol ar oedran cynnar - a'u bod nhw'n fwy tebygol o gymryd rhan mewn ysgarmesoedd. Felly, mae hwnnw'n ddarn gweddol ddiweddar o ymchwil. Ond, unwaith eto, rwy'n diolch i Jenny Rathbone am ei chefnogaeth a'i chyfraniad.