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English: - and so on and so forth. Isn't it reasonable then that people wish to see diagnosis happening sooner, and isn't it reasonable then that there's a Bill in front of us that has as one of its main themes ensuring that that diagnosis does happen sooner?
Welsh: - ac yn y blaen ac yn y blaen. Onid ydy hi'n rhesymol bod pobl yn dymuno gweld diagnosis yn digwydd yn gyflymach, ac onid ydy hi'n rhesymol felly fod yna Fil o'n blaenau ni sydd ag un o'i brif themâu o yn ymwneud â sicrhau bod y diagnosis yma'n cael ei wneud yn gynharach?
English: Okay. Is everyone happy? That's the end of the questioning. So, thank you very much for your attendance this morning, and also for your splendid answers to the questions and for the written submissions that you gave us beforehand. We will send you a transcript of today's proceedings for you to check for factual accuracy, but, with those concluding remarks, thank you very much for your attendance. Can I now announce to my fellow Members that we will break to have lunch and that we will return here by 1.40 p.m., please? Thank you very much.
Welsh: Ocê. Pawb yn hapus? Dyna ddiwedd y cwestiynu. Felly, diolch yn fawr i chi am eich presenoldeb y bore yma, a hefyd am eich atebion bendigedig i'r cwestiynau, hefyd am y dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig gwnaethoch chi ei gyflwyno ymlaen llaw. Byddwn ni yn danfon trawsgrifiad o'r trafodaethau yma heddiw er mwyn i chi allu gwirio eu bod nhw'n ffeithiol gywir, ond, gyda chymaint â hynny o ragymadrodd, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich presenoldeb. A allaf i gyhoeddi i fy nghyd-Aelodau y byddwn ni'n torri am egwyl i gael rhywfaint o ginio ac yn dod yn ôl i fan hyn erbyn 1.40 p.m., os gwelwch fod yn dda? Diolch yn fawr.
English: Welcome back to you all to the afternoon session. We're in the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee here at the National Assembly for Wales. We have reached item 5 on our agenda, and a continuation of our evidence-gathering session on the Autism (Wales) Bill, which is at Stage 1. We've reached the evidence session with the Royal College of Psychiatrists in Wales and the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health. I'm very happy to welcome Professor Alka Ahuja, consultant child and adolescent psychiatrist for Aneurin Bevan health board and the Royal College of Psychiatrists in Wales; Dr Amani Hassan, the chair of the faculty of child and adolescent psychiatry, the Royal College of Psychiatrists in Wales; also Dr Catherine Norton, consultant community paediatrician; and also Dr Martin Simmonds, community paediatrician, the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health. Welcome to you all. We've received your written evidence in advance. And given that time is short this afternoon for all our questions, we'll go straight into questions. The first questions come from Lynne Neagle.
Welsh: Croeso nôl i chi i gyd i'r prynhawn. Rydym ni yma nawr yn y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yng Nghynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru. Rydym ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 5 ar yr agenda, a pharhad o'n craffu ar y Bil Awtistiaeth (Cymru), Cyfnod 1. Rydym ni wedi cyrraedd y sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Choleg Brenhinol y Seiciatryddion a Choleg Brenhinol Pediatreg ac Iechyd Plant. I'r perwyl yna, rydw i'n falch iawn o groesawu'r Athro Alka Ahuja, seiciatrydd ymgynghorol plant a'r glasoed, bwrdd iechyd Aneurin Bevan a Choleg Brenhinol y Seiciatryddion; Dr Amani Hassan, cadeirydd cyfadran seiciatreg y plant a'r glasoed, Coleg Brenhinol y Seiciatryddion; hefyd Dr Catherine Norton, pediatrydd ymgynghorol cymunedol; a hefyd Dr Martin Simmonds, pediatrydd cymunedol Coleg Brenhinol Pediatreg ac Iechyd Plant. Croeso i chi i gyd. Rydym ni wedi derbyn tystiolaeth ysgrifenedig ymlaen llaw. Ac wedyn, yn ôl ein harfer, achos mae amser ychydig bach yn dynn gogyfer â'r holl gwestiynau sydd gyda ni i'w gofyn, mi awn i'n syth i gwestiynau. Mae'r cwestiynau cyntaf yng ngofal Lynne Neagle.
English: We will move on to Rhun. You have the rest of the questions.
Welsh: Symudwn ni ymlaen at Rhun. Mae gweddill y cwestiynau gyda ti.
English: Thank you very much. I have to praise the clarity of the evidence that we're receiving from you today and the consistency of that evidence. May I quote from a report of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, which states that, 'We believe Autism legislation will not necessarily drive good practice and could lead to a push for higher diagnosis rates rather than focus on meeting the needs of the individual'? Do you genuinely believe that there would be a push just for higher diagnosis rates in order to drive those support services, and so on?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi. Mae'n rhaid i mi ganmol eglurder y dystiolaeth rydym yn ei chael gennych chi yma heddiw a chysondeb y dystiolaeth yna. A gaf fi ddyfynnu o adroddiad Coleg Brenhinol y Seiciatryddion, sy'n dweud, 'Credwn na fydd deddfwriaeth awtistiaeth o reidrwydd yn ysgogi arfer da a gallai arwain at ymdrech i gael cyfraddau diagnosis uwch yn hytrach na chanolbwyntio ar ddiwallu ar anghenion yr unigolyn'? A ydych chi wir yn credu hynny - y bydd yna bwysau jest i gael cyfraddau uwch er mwyn gallu gwthio am wasanaethau cefnogi, ac yn y blaen?
English: Okay. Content? That's the end of the session. Thank you very much for your attendance this afternoon and for answering the questions so maturely and informatively. Thank you, also, for submitting the information beforehand. We'll take a break for five minutes before the next witnesses. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Ocê. Hapus? Dyna ddiwedd y sesiwn. Diolch yn fawr iawn ichi am eich presenoldeb y prynhawn yma a hefyd am ateb y cwestiynau mewn ffordd mor aeddfed a graenus. Diolch yn fawr iawn ichi, a hefyd am gyflwyno'r dystiolaeth ymlaen llaw. Cawn ni doriad am bum munud nawr cyn i'r tystion nesaf gyrraedd. Diolch yn fawr.
English: Welcome, everyone, back to the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee here at the National Assembly for Wales. We've reached item 6 on our agenda in our discussion and scrutiny of the Autism (Wales) Bill. This latest session is with the British Psychological Society and the Association of Educational Psychologists. So, it's my pleasure to welcome Nigel Atter, who is a policy officer with the British Psychological Society - welcome to you - also Dr Kate Swindon, educational psychologist, education services at Conwy County Borough Council, and also Andrea Higgins, who is the academic director and programme co-ordinator of the doctorate in educational psychology at the School of Psychology at Cardiff University. Thank you very much for your attendance and for providing us with written evidence in advance. As is customary - . We've been gathering evidence throughout the day and for a few weeks before, so Members have already received detailed evidence to do with autism and are seeking to refine their understanding. We will begin the questioning with Lynne Neagle.
Welsh: Croeso i bawb yn ôl i sesiwn ddiweddaraf y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yng Nghynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru. Rydym ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 6 ar yr agenda rŵan yn ein trafodaeth a chraffu ar Fil Awtistiaeth (Cymru). Mae'r sesiwn dystiolaeth ddiweddaraf yma gyda Chymdeithas Seicolegol Prydain a'r Gymdeithas Seicolegwyr Addysgol. Felly, i'r perwyl yna, rydw i'n falch iawn o groesawu i'r bwrdd Nigel Atter, swyddog polisi, Cymdeithas Seicolegol Prydain - croeso - a hefyd Dr Kate Swindon, seicolegydd addysgol, gwasanaethau addysg, Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Conwy, a hefyd Andrea Higgins, cyfarwyddwr academaidd a chydlynydd rhaglen doethuriaeth mewn seicoleg addysg, yr Ysgol Seicoleg, Prifysgol Caerdydd. Diolch yn fawr iawn ichi am eich presenoldeb ac am ddarparu tystiolaeth ysgrifenedig ymlaen llaw. Yn ôl ein harfer - . Rydym ni wedi bod wrthi drwy'r dydd ac am gwpwl o wythnosau cyn hyn, felly mae manylion popeth yn ymwneud ag awtistiaeth gydag Aelodau eisoes - dim ond i fireini eu gwybodaeth. Rydym ni'n mynd i ddechrau'r cwestiynu efo Lynne Neagle.
English: We move on to item 7, for my fellow Members, and papers to note. You will have read the letter from the Cabinet Secretary for Finance to the Chair of the Finance Committee concerning the definition of prevention in relation to spending. Are Members happy to note that letter? Everyone's happy. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Rwy'n symud ymlaen i eitem 7, i fy nghyd-Aelodau, a phapurau i'w nodi. Fe fyddwch wedi darllen y llythyr gan Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros gyllid ataf i fel Cadeirydd - na, at Gadeirydd y Pwyllgor Cyllid mae hwn - ynglŷn â'r diffiniad o atal mewn perthynas â gwario. A yw pawb yn hapus i nodi'r llythyr yna? Mae pawb yn hapus i'w nodi. Diolch yn fawr.
English: That takes us on now to item 8. I move a motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of today's meeting and also for the meeting on 17 October, when the committee will be undertaking engagement work with stakeholders as part of its inquiry on the impact of the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014 in relation to carers. Is everybody content? Everybody's content. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Fe symudwn ni ymlaen i eitem 8 a chynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill cyfarfod heddiw ac ar gyfer y cyfarfod wythnos nesaf, 17 Hydref, pan fydd y pwyllgor yn gwneud gwaith ymgysylltu â rhanddeiliaid fel rhan o'i ymchwiliad ar effaith Deddf Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol a Llesiant (Cymru) 2014 mewn perthynas â gofalwyr. A yw pawb yn hapus? Pawb yn hapus. Diolch yn fawr.
English: Thank you, Chair. Just further to that, some people want to see more powers, because, as it stands, people are complaining that there aren't enough services for people with autism, but also that there aren't powers in the right place. For example, a GP, who has doctors and nurses in the NHS, makes this diagnosis of autism, but the treatment is in the education sector or in the social care sector; the GP hasn't got the power to refer somebody to education or to social services, because it doesn't exist. When a GP - for example, when I do this - writes to the director of public services, nothing happens; they don't even acknowledge the referral. The same thing is true of education; we can't refer people to the field of education because that comes under local government. I can refer people to other areas of the NHS, such as child and adolescent mental health services, even if, perhaps, that isn't appropriate. Because the other point about autism is that it's unique. It is an emotional, social condition. It is not a mental health condition. It isn't always fair on the person to refer them to CAMHS, but that's the only place that GPs can refer them to. So, there is a weakness in the system currently. We cannot refer these people to either education or social services. If that is going to come about with your code, great, but it's not clear to me that it's going to happen in any code either, and that's why there's a call for legislation.
Welsh: Diolch, Gadeirydd. Yn bellach i hynny, mae rhai pobl eisiau gweld mwy o rymoedd, achos, fel y mae hi ar hyn o bryd, wrth gwrs, mae pobl yn cwyno nad oes digon o wasanaethau gogyfer pobl ag awtistiaeth ond hefyd nad oes grymoedd yn y lle iawn. Hynny yw, dywedwch, meddyg teulu, nawr, sydd â meddygon a nyrsys yn y gwasanaeth iechyd, sy'n gwneud y diagnosis am awtistiaeth, ond mae'r driniaeth yn y sector addysg, neu yn y sector gofal cymdeithasol; nid oes grym gan y meddyg teulu i arallgyfeirio rhywun i addysg, neu i arallgyfeirio rhywun i wasanaethau cymdeithasol, achos nid yw'n bod. Pan fydd meddyg teulu - er enghraifft, fi - yn ysgrifennu at gyfarwyddwr gwasanaethau cyhoeddus, nid oes dim byd yn digwydd; nid ydyn nhw hyd yn oed yn cydnabod y referral. Mae'r un peth efo addysg; nid ydym ni'n gallu arallgyfeirio pobl i fyd addysg achos mae o dan adain llywodraeth leol. Rwy'n gallu cyfeirio pobl i lefydd eraill yn y gwasanaeth iechyd - CAMHS ac ati, er bod hwnnw efallai'n amhriodol, achos y pwynt arall ynglŷn ag awtistiaeth ydy ei bod yn unigryw. Cyflwr emosiynol, cymdeithasol yw e. Nid yw o'n gyflwr afiechyd meddwl. Wedyn, mae'n gam ar y person, weithiau, i'w harallgyfeirio nhw i CAMHS, ond dyna'r unig le, fel meddygon, rŷm ni'n gallu arallgyfeirio. Felly, mae yna wendid yn y system fel y mae hi ar hyn o bryd. Nid ydym ni'n gallu arallgyfeirio'r bobl hyn i un ai addysg neu'r gwasanaethau cymdeithasol. Os ydy hynny'n mynd i ddod efo'ch cod chi, grêt, ond nid yw'n glir i fi bod hynny'n mynd i ddigwydd mewn unrhyw god ychwaith, a dyna pam mae yna alwad am ddeddfwriaeth yn hyn o beth.
English: Right. I take it that you don't agree with the Bill, but the fact is that we have to scrutinise the details of the Bill, so you'll have to stay with us for the moment on this. We're going into the technical details with regard to powers that have been delegated. Do you think that the Bill strikes the right balance between what is on the face of the Bill and what isn't on the face of the Bill?
Welsh: Reit. Rwy'n cymryd nad ydych chi'n cytuno â'r Bil, ond y ffaith ydy mai ein bwriad ni ydy craffu ar fanylion y Bil, felly fe fydd yn rhaid i chi aros efo ni am sbel fach nawr. Rydym ni'n mynd i mewn i'r manylion technegol ynglŷn â phwerau wedi eu dirprwyo. A ydych chi'n meddwl bod y Bil yn taro'r cydbwysedd cywir rhwng beth sydd ar wyneb y Bil a beth nad yw ar wyneb y Bil?
English: Okay, moving on now to section 9, subsection 1 of this legislation, it permits the Welsh Ministers to extend the range of relevant bodies beyond local authorities and the NHS bodies. Is this power needed?
Welsh: Ocê. Symud ymlaen i adran 9, is-adran 1 o'r ddeddfwriaeth yma, mae hwnnw'n caniatau i Weinidogion Cymru ymestyn yr ystod o gyrff perthnasol y tu hwnt i awdurdodau lleol a chyrff y gwasanaeth iechyd. A oes angen y pŵer yna?
English: My final point under these technical questions: we remain with section 9, subsection 1, with regard to the definition of an autism spectrum disorder, and, of course, the definition in the Bill refers people to the World Health Organisation's definition of what an autism spectrum disorder means. The Bill also allows that definition to be extended, as you've already referred to, for the purposes of other neurodevelopmental disorders. Now, of course, you can use that argument to answer your previous argument that this Bill is too restricted to autism alone. Now there is an attempt here, within the Bill itself, to extend the definition to include other neurodevelopmental disorders. Do you agree with that? What would be the weaknesses of that with regard to other disorders? Is the explanatory memorandum sufficient evidence to support the fact that this is only referring to autism? It could refer to other neurodevelopmental disorders.
Welsh: Fy mhwynt olaf i o dan y cwestiynau technegol yma: rŷm ni dal efo adran 9, is-adran 1, ynglŷn â diffiniad anhwylder sbectrwm awtistiaeth, ac, wrth gwrs, mae'r diffiniad yn y Bil yma yn cyfeirio pobl at ddiffiniad Sefydliad Iechyd y Byd o beth yw anhwylder sbectrwm awtistiaeth. Mae'r Bil yma hefyd yn caniatáu ymestyn y diffiniad, fel rydych chi wedi'i awgrymu eisoes, at ddibenion anhwylderau niwroddatblygiadol eraill. Nawr, wrth gwrs, mi fedrwch chi ddefnyddio'r ddadl yna i ateb eich dadl chi bod y Bil yma'n rhy gyfyngedig i awtistiaeth yn unig. Nawr mae yna ymgais yn fan hyn, o fewn y Bil, i ymestyn y diffiniad i gynnwys anhwylderau niwroddatblygiadol eraill. A ydych chi yn cytuno â hynny? A fuasai gwendid yn ei ymestyn o i gyflyrau eraill o dan yr un Mesur? A ydy'r memorandwm esboniadol yn ddigon o dystiolaeth i ychwanegu'r ffaith mai dim ond awtistiaeth yw hon? Mi allai o gael ei ddefnyddio at gyflyrau niwroddatblygiadol eraill.
English: On the back of that, a short supplementary question. Of course, one of the unique problems with regard to autism is the delay before diagnosis. I hear what you're saying and what other people are saying, that the important thing is that these people are assessed and that they're treated. But, when you come down to my level as a GP, the problem is that something is affecting this child, we do not know what it is, I don't know what it is, it could be autism; they need to see a specialist to confirm whether the child has ASD. But there's a delay, and people say, 'Well, it takes months'. Sometimes it takes years - I receive letters from people who've had to wait years for diagnosis. Because, on my level, on the ground, you have to have that diagnosis before you can access the assessments and the treatments. So, one follows on from the other. I understand the argument that we should be looking holistically and responding to need and treating the individual and the diagnosis isn't at all important. But, on the ground, diagnosis is important. If you don't have a diagnosis, you can't access treatment.
Welsh: Jest, ar gefn hynny, jest cwestiwn bach atodol. Wrth gwrs, un o'r problemau unigryw efo awtistiaeth ydy'r oedi cyn cael diagnosis. Rydw i'n clywed beth rydych chi'n ei ddweud a beth mae pobl eraill yn ei ddweud: y peth pwysig ydy bod y bobl yma'n cael eu hasesu a'u bod nhw'n cael eu trin. Ond pan ydych chi'n dod lawr i fy lefel i fel meddyg teulu, y broblem ydy - mae rhywbeth yn bod efo'r plentyn yma, nid ydym ni'n gwybod beth yw e, nid wyf i'n gwybod beth yw e, mi allai fod yn awtistiaeth; mae angen iddo fo weld arbenigwr i gadarnhau a oes awtistiaeth gyda'r plentyn yma. Ond, wrth gwrs, mae yna aros ac, wrth gwrs, mae pobl yn dweud, 'Duw, mae'n cymryd misoedd'. Weithiau mae'n cymryd blynyddoedd - rwy'n cael llythyrau gan bobl sy'n dweud eu bod nhw wedi bod yn aros blynyddoedd i gael diagnosis. Achos, llawr lle rwy'n gweithio, ar lawr gwlad, mae'n rhaid ichi gael diagnosis cyn ichi gael mynediad at y triniaethau a'r asesiadau. Felly, mae un yn dilyn y llall. Rydw i'n deall y ddadl y dylem ni fod yn edrych yn gynhwysfawr a jest ymateb i anghenion a thrin yr unigolyn ac nid yw'r diagnosis yn bwysig. Ond, ar lawr gwlad, mae diagnosis yn bwysig. Heb ddiagnosis, nid oes mynediad i driniaeth.
English: I'm aware of time, so I'll leave it there.
Welsh: Rwy'n ymwybodol o'r amser, so gwnaf ei adael e fanna.
English: Good afternoon, Permanent Secretary. Under the National Assembly for Wales (Official Languages) Act 2012, we have a right, as Assembly Members, to scrutinise on official documents from the Government in both official languages of the legislature. Why, then, haven't you provided the annual report and consolidated accounts in Welsh, as well as English?
Welsh: Prynhawn da, Ysgrifennydd Parhaol. O dan Ddeddf Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru (Ieithoedd Swyddogol) 2012, mae hawl gennym ni, fel Aelodau Cynulliad, i graffu ar ddogfennau swyddogol gan y Llywodraeth yn nwy iaith swyddogol y ddeddfwrfa. Pam, felly, nad ŷch chi wedi darparu'r adroddiad blynyddol a'r cyfrifon cyfunol yn Gymraeg, yn ogystal â Saesneg?
English: Excuse me, but I haven't been able to hear what you've said.
Welsh: Esgusodwch fi, ond nid ydw i wedi gallu clywed beth rydych chi wedi ei ddweud.
English: Can we delay while that is resolved?
Welsh: A ydym ni'n gallu oedi tra bod hynny'n cael ei ddatrys?
English: Okay. The irony won't be lost, of course, on some of those who could follow my comments. I'm asking why, in view of the fact that the official languages legislation, of course, imposes a requirement on the Welsh Government to submit any documentation in both official languages of the legislature, so that we, as Assembly Members, may scrutinise in both languages, you haven't provided the annual report and consolidated accounts in Welsh, as well as English?
Welsh: Iawn. Ni fydd yr eironi wedi cael ei golli ar y rhai a oedd yn gallu dilyn fy sylwadau i. Gofyn ydw i, a dweud y gwir, pam, yn wyneb y ffaith bod y Ddeddf ieithoedd swyddogol, wrth gwrs, yn gosod ar Lywodraeth Cymru y gofyniad i gyflwyno dogfennaeth yn nwy iaith swyddogol y ddeddfwrfa, fel ein bod ni, fel Aelodau Cynulliad, yn gallu craffu yn y ddwy iaith, nad ydych chi wedi darparu'r adroddiad blynyddol yma a'r cyfrifon cyfunol yn Gymraeg, yn ogystal â Saesneg?
English: Well, that's not good enough, Permanent Secretary, because not only have you broken the law of the official languages legislation, but you've also broken the standard. This report has been published on the website of the Assembly in English only - you're welcome to correct me - so, you've broken two Acts here. You're late, anyway, even with the English. Hasn't this process been a complete shambles?
Welsh: Wel, nid yw hynny'n ddigon da, Ysgrifennydd Parhaol, achos nid yn unig eich bod chi wedi torri'r Ddeddf ieithoedd swyddogol, rydych chi hefyd wedi torri safon. Mae'r adroddiad yma wedi'i gyhoeddi ar wefan y Cynulliad, rydw i'n deall, yn Saesneg yn unig - croeso ichi gywiro fi - felly, rydych chi wedi torri dwy Ddeddf. Rŷch chi'n hwyr, beth bynnag, hyd yn oed yn Saesneg. Onid yw'r broses yma wedi bod yn hollol shambolic?
English: The report itself, in the version that has been published, talks about the work that will be undertaken to promote and facilitate the use of Welsh in the internal arrangements of the institution during the next period. Now, we know, through documents that have been released to my colleague Siân Gwenllian, under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, that there was a draft report, established by your predecessor in the job, by a working group to look at this topic, and there were many draft recommendations in March 2017. The main recommendation was to make Welsh and English the official languages of the civil service by 2036, and formulate an action plan to implement that. Can you explain whether the final version of the working party on the facilitation and promotion of the Welsh language has been finalised, has it been submitted to the Government board, and have you made a decision on its recommendations?
Welsh: Mae'r adroddiad ei hun, yn y fersiwn sydd wedi'i chyhoeddi, yn sôn am waith sy'n mynd i gael ei wneud i hybu a hwyluso defnydd o'r Gymraeg yng ngweinyddiaeth fewnol y sefydliad yn ystod y cyfnod nesaf. Nawr, rŷm ni'n gwybod, eisoes, trwy ddogfennau sydd wedi'u rhyddhau i fy nghydweithiwr Siân Gwenllian, o dan Ddeddf Rhyddid Gwybodaeth 2000, fod yna adroddiad drafft, wedi cael ei sefydlu gan eich rhagflaenydd yn y swydd, gan weithgor i edrych ar y pwnc yma, ac mi oedd yna nifer of argymhellion drafft ym mis Mawrth 2017. Y prif argymhelliad oedd gwneud y Gymraeg a'r Saesneg yn ieithoedd gweinyddu swyddogol y gwasanaeth sifil erbyn y flwyddyn 2036, a llunio cynllun gweithredu i wireddu hynny. A allwch chi esbonio a ydy fersiwn derfynol y gweithgor hynny ar hybu, hwyluso a defnyddio'r Gymraeg yng ngweinyddiaeth fewnol y Llywodraeth wedi'i gwblhau, a yw e wedi ei gyflwyno i fwrdd y Llywodraeth, ac a ydych chi wedi gwneud penderfyniad ynglŷn â'i argymhellion?
English: Just to be clear about one of those elements, I think what you were referring to in terms of the ability to have a fundamental knowledge of the language - . That is, we in the Assembly, of course, have adopted a policy of a courtesy-level Welsh and basic Welsh to facilitate the use of Welsh for everyone. Perhaps I should declare an interest, because I am the Commissioner responsible for that. South Wales Police have done the same, and Carmarthenshire County Council and many other bodies in the public sector. Is that best practice what you're assessing at present? I think this was brought up in the Chamber. You haven't yet made a decision about introducing that approach to basic Welsh to everyone, but you're currently assessing it on the basis of best practice.
Welsh: Jest i fod yn glir ynglŷn ag un o'r elfennau yna, rydw i'n credu mai'r hyn roeddech chi'n cyfeirio ato fe o ran gallu iaith sylfaenol - . Hynny yw, rŷm ni yn y Cynulliad, wrth gwrs, wedi mabwysiadu polisi o Gymraeg cwrteisi neu Gymraeg sylfaenol i bawb, a hwyluso hynny i bawb. Efallai y dylwn i ddatgan buddiant fan hyn, achos fi ydy'r Comisiynydd sydd yn gyfrifol. Mae Heddlu De Cymru wedi gwneud yr un peth, a Chyngor Sir Gâr a nifer o gyrff yn y sector cyhoeddus. Ai dyna'r math o arfer gorau rydych chi yn ei asesu ar hyn o bryd? Rydw i'n credu bod hyn wedi codi yn y Siambr. Nid ydych chi wedi gwneud penderfyniad eto ynglŷn â chyflwyno'r math yna o ymagwedd ynglŷn â Chymraeg sylfaenol i bawb, ond rydych chi yn ei asesu ar sail yr arfer gorau.