English: Llywydd, unlike the Member and, presumably, his party, we on these benches believe in investing in businesses here in Wales. I certainly don't apologise, for a single moment, for the fact that successive Welsh Governments have seen it as their duty to assist Welsh firms, to help them to grow to create work here in Wales, and if you're going to do that on an entirely risk-averse basis, where you're never willing to take a chance on a company that might turn out to be a really important part of our economic future here in Wales, then, of course, you can eliminate every possibility of something going wrong by never doing anything. If that's the policy of his party, he should tell us here. If he doesn't believe that we should ever be prepared to invest in a business that may, in the end, not turn out to do everything that both it says to us, our expert panels who review every single one of these cases and the decisions that Ministers make, then people in the future will know that were his party ever to find itself in a position to make decisions here in Wales, then they wouldn't be a Government prepared to do those things that allow businesses here in Wales to prosper. The Member said to me that there was a lack of transparency and then proceeded to reel off a list of things that he could only possibly know as a result of information that the Welsh Government itself had placed in the public domain. My colleague Ken Skates says that he has no difficulty in publishing the report to which the Member referred, so there will be another report that he will be able to read, and we look forward to his views on transparency when another piece of information that is only available because this Government is prepared to make it available falls into his hands.
Welsh: Llywydd, yn wahanol i'r aelod ac, mae'n debyg, ei blaid, rydym ni ar y meinciau hyn yn credu mewn buddsoddi mewn busnesau yma yng Nghymru. Yn sicr, nid wyf i'n ymddiheuro, am un eiliad, am y ffaith bod Llywodraethau Cymru olynol wedi ei hystyried yn ddyletswydd arnyn nhw i gynorthwyo busnesau yng Nghymru, i'w helpu i dyfu i greu gwaith yma yng Nghymru, ac os ydych chi'n mynd i wneud hynny ar sail hollol ddi-risg, lle nad ydych chi byth yn barod i gymryd siawns ar gwmni a allai droi'n rhan bwysig iawn o'n dyfodol economaidd yma yng Nghymru, yna, wrth gwrs, gallwch ddileu pob posibilrwydd o rywbeth yn mynd o'i le trwy beidio byth â gwneud dim. Os mai dyna yw polisi ei blaid ef, dylai ddweud wrthym ni yn y fan yma. Os nad yw'n credu y dylem ni fyth fod yn barod i fuddsoddi mewn busnes a allai, yn y pen draw, fethu â gwneud popeth y mae'n ei ddweud wrthym ni, wrth ein panelau arbenigol sy'n adolygu pob un o'r achosion hyn a'r penderfyniadau y mae Gweinidogion yn eu gwneud, yna bydd pobl yn y dyfodol yn gwybod pe byddai ei blaid ef erioed wedi canfod ei hun mewn sefyllfa i wneud penderfyniadau yma yng Nghymru, yna ni fyddai'n Llywodraeth a fyddai'n barod i wneud y pethau hynny sy'n caniatáu i fusnesau yma yng Nghymru ffynnu. Dywedodd yr Aelod wrthyf bod diffyg tryloywder ac yna aeth ymlaen i roi rhestr o bethau y gallai ddim ond fod wedi gwybod amdanynt o ganlyniad i wybodaeth yr oedd Llywodraeth Cymru ei hun wedi ei chyhoeddi. Mae fy nghyd-Aelod, Ken Skates, yn dweud nad yw'n ei chael hi'n anodd o gwbl cyhoeddi'r adroddiad y cyfeiriodd yr Aelod ato, felly bydd adroddiad arall y bydd ef yn gallu ei ddarllen, ac edrychwn ymlaen at ei safbwyntiau ar dryloywder pan fydd darn arall o wybodaeth sydd ar gael dim ond oherwydd bod y Llywodraeth hon yn barod i'w rhoi ar gael yn syrthio i'w ddwylo.