English: Can I welcome the fact that the Welsh Government is now moving to adopt a housing first policy, or at least to extensively pilot it? It's something the Welsh Conservatives have been urging for some time, and I'm pleased to see it. I do have some specific questions, however. First of all, how many of the pilots will be on a county basis, or are they on a smaller scale? I think we need to know how comprehensive the pilots will be in the areas where they are applied. I would urge us looking at a county level to really see whether this type of policy is going to work if we roll it out across Wales. I would like more detail on when the pilots will be evaluated so that we can make that determination, because many of us believe, from the evidence that we've observed, that this offers the best hope for the future. Surely the Government now needs to review its attitude to the Supporting People fund. It's at the heart of the housing first approach, the support services that people receive, and you will know that those in the sector, like the Wallich, have been urging an urgent review and a reversal of Government policy in this area. I must commend the Minister. You did say in touching on this subject that putting a roof over someone's head is the first vital step but it's not the most challenging thing. In sustaining that improvement, it's the support that people get. So, I just want to know how coherent the Government's approach is. Obviously, if you're going to re-badge it and call it something else, I'm not particularly bothered, but at the moment there's been a reversal out of this type of approach by the Welsh Government. Can I say, Deputy Presiding Officer, that I think we do need a target date for ending rough-sleeping? We know that, in Manchester, they've set a highly ambitious target of 2020. The UK Government target is for mid-2020s - 2027, I think. I would like to see a more ambitious target than that, but it's perhaps somewhere in between - maybe an interim target that we could initially establish. And if we do see successful policy development here - and you will get widespread support, I think, for the innovations that are seen to be working - then we could, perhaps, advance that target and really be a leader in this sector, as Manchester at the moment are hoping to be. Regarding the independent private sectors, I will give you credit for at least, in the statement, mentioning this because it is an important part of the solution, and I would like to know if you've been having any direct discussions, particularly with the private sector, because you do refer to the Wallich and other charities like Shelter, but I do think that private providers are going to be part of the solution as well, and I'd like to know what sort of discussions you're having. And I'm not quite sure of the rationale behind what you're saying in terms of you not intending to spell out the budget in great detail. I mean, the one advantage of being more candid on your spending commitments is that you will give much more information to the independent private sectors, so that they can then plan their services in terms of expansion for the future. Finally, on house building, I'm not going to rehearse the whole argument. Of course, we need more supply, and for that, given that we're talking about medium and longer term targets here - well into the 2020s and even beyond - you do need to return to the assessment of housing need, and I think the Holmans projection is the one we should be adopting and working towards fulfilling, and I'd urge you to do that as soon as possible.
Welsh: A gaf i groesawu'r ffaith bod Llywodraeth Cymru bellach yn mynd ati i fabwysiadu polisi Tai yn Gyntaf, neu o leiaf i arbrofi'n helaeth gyda'r polisi hwnnw? Mae'n rhywbeth y bu'r Ceidwadwyr Cymreig yn ei annog ers peth amser, ac rwy'n falch o weld hynny. Mae gennyf rai cwestiynau penodol, fodd bynnag. Yn gyntaf oll, faint o'r cynlluniau arbrofol fydd ar sail sirol, neu a ydyn nhw ar raddfa lai? Rwy'n credu bod angen inni wybod pa mor gynhwysfawr y bydd y cynlluniau arbrofol yn yr ardaloedd lle y byddan nhw ar waith. Rwy'n ein hannog i edrych ar lefel sirol er mwyn gweld mewn gwirionedd a yw'r math hwn o bolisi yn mynd i weithio petaem ni yn ei gyflwyno ledled Cymru. Fe hoffwn i fwy o fanylion ynglŷn â phryd y caiff y cynlluniau arbrofol eu gwerthuso fel y gallwn ni wneud y penderfyniad hwnnw, oherwydd mae llawer ohonom ni'n credu, o'r dystiolaeth y gwelsom ni, mai hyn sy'n cynnig y gobaith gorau ar gyfer y dyfodol. Siawns fod angen i'r Llywodraeth adolygu ei hagwedd tuag at y gronfa Cefnogi Pobl erbyn hyn. Mae wrth wraidd y dull Tai yn Gyntaf, y gwasanaethau cymorth y mae pobl yn eu derbyn, a byddwch yn gwybod y bu'r rheini yn y sector, fel y Wallich, yn pwyso am adolygiad brys ac am wrthdroi polisi'r Llywodraeth yn y maes hwn. Mae'n rhaid imi ganmol y Gweinidog. Fe wnaethoch chi sôn wrth grybwyll y pwnc hwn mai rhoi to uwchben rhywun yw'r cam cyntaf hanfodol ond nad dyna'r peth mwyaf heriol. Mae a wnelo cynnal y gwelliant hwnnw â'r cymorth y mae pobl yn ei gael. Felly, dim ond eisiau gwybod yr wyf i pa mor eglur yw ffordd y Llywodraeth o ymdrin â hyn. Yn amlwg, os ydych chi'n mynd i roi gwisg ac enw newydd iddo, does fawr o ots gennyf i, ond ar hyn o bryd bu Llywodraeth Cymru yn cefnu ar ffyrdd fel hyn o weithio. A gaf i ddweud, Dirprwy Lywydd, fy mod i'n credu bod angen dyddiad targed arnom ni ar gyfer rhoi terfyn ar gysgu ar y strydoedd? Rydym ni'n gwybod, ym Manceinion, eu bod nhw wedi gosod targed uchelgeisiol iawn o 2020. Targed Llywodraeth y DU yw canol y 2020au - 2027, rwy'n credu. Fe hoffwn i weld targed mwy uchelgeisiol na hynny, ond efallai fod hynny rywle yn y canol - efallai targed dros dro y gallem ni ei sefydlu i ddechrau. Ac os gwelwn ni ddatblygiad polisi llwyddiannus yma - a byddwch yn cael cefnogaeth eang, rwy'n credu, o ran y syniadau arloesol sydd i'w gweld yn gweithio - yna fe allem ni, efallai, gynyddu'r targed hwnnw a bod yn arweinydd yn y sector hwn yng ngwir ystyr y gair, fel mae Manceinion ar hyn o bryd yn gobeithio bod. Ynghylch y sectorau preifat annibynnol, byddaf yn eich canmol am grybwyll hyn o leiaf yn y datganiad, oherwydd mae'n rhan bwysig o'r ateb, ac fe hoffwn i wybod a ydych chi wedi cael unrhyw drafodaethau uniongyrchol, yn enwedig gyda'r sector preifat, oherwydd rydych chi yn cyfeirio at y Wallich ac elusennau eraill megis Shelter, ond rwyf yn credu y bydd darparwyr preifat yn rhan o'r ateb hefyd, ac fe hoffwn i wybod pa fath o drafodaethau yr ydych chi'n eu cael. Ac nid wyf i'n hollol siŵr o'r rhesymeg sydd wrth wraidd yr hyn yr ydych chi'n ei ddweud o ran nad ydych chi'n bwriadu sôn am y gyllideb yn fanwl iawn. Yr hyn rwy'n ei olygu yw, y fantais o fod yn fwy gonest am eich ymrwymiadau gwario yw y byddwch chi'n rhoi llawer mwy o wybodaeth i'r sector preifat annibynnol, fel y gallan nhw yna gynllunio eu gwasanaethau o safbwynt ehangu ar gyfer y dyfodol. Yn olaf, ynglŷn â chodi tai, nid wyf am ailadrodd y ddadl gyfan. Wrth gwrs, mae angen mwy o gyflenwad arnom ni, ac er mwyn cyflawni hynny, o ystyried ein bod ni'n siarad am y targedau tymor canolig a mwy hirdymor yma - ymhell i'r 2020au a hyd yn oed y tu hwnt - mae angen i chi ddychwelyd at yr asesiad o'r angen am dai, a chredaf mai amcanestyniad Holmans yw'r un y dylem ni fod yn ei fabwysiadu ac yn gweithio tuag at ei gyflawni, ac rwy'n eich annog i wneud hynny cyn gynted â phosib.