English: Thanks, Lee. [ Laughter. ] I'm delighted to speak to Lee Waters and to the rest of the Assembly as well. I'm pleased to subscribe to this motion. Roads are an issue close to my heart, whether I'm supporting them or opposing them, with some of my colleagues sometimes. And at the heart of this motion is the fact that, when you leave the beaten track of our motorways and our A roads and B roads, many of our rural roads and also, as we've heard, our urban roads are indeed way below the standard that we would expect, and many speakers have already spoken about those problems. I was looking at the website of the Resident Adoption Action Group, which outlines some of the issues affecting our unadopted roads in Wales, including the fact that regular health and safety inspections are not being undertaken to ensure that the roads are being kept safe. And as this is a national issue, there are countless road users who are regularly driving on unsafe and unregulated roads. As Mike Hedges and other speakers have mentioned, developers can often save thousands by dodging the legal agreements that pass the roads on to local authority control - an issue that seemingly has no repercussions for those developers. And I support Mike Hedges's call and others to perhaps put this on a statutory footing to make sure that road adoption is part of that planning process at the outset. Clearly, we need to make unadopted roads a priority, and in order to fully do that, we do need up-to-date statistics. I'm still laughing, amused, at Dai Lloyd's mention of the 1972 Department for Transport survey that found that there were then approximately 40,000 unadopted roads in England and Wales. I think it would be helpful if we did have some Welsh statistics. So, I support the call for a taskforce and ask the economy and infrastructure Secretary to look into getting some up-to-date statistics on that infrastructure. I do think that there is light at the end of this tunnel - pardon the pun - and if we look back through history, as David Melding did, there is good reason to be hopeful for the future. In fact, roads in the UK were not classified at all until the 1920s, and the classification itself was not tidied up until the 1930s. In those days, they had a rolling, yearly reassessment of the classification of roads - probably far more up-to-date than it has been since 1972, but they recognised the importance of a good road structure. And when we went into the second world war, the road network was in a shambolic state, and after that war, it was clear that something - [ Interruption. ] Tory Government - get over yourself. [ Laughter. ] After the second world war, it was clear that something needed to be done, and there was that programme of road building and road improvements that has been going on since then. But throughout all of the time, under Labour Governments and Conservative Governments and coalition Governments, the issue of unadopted roads was not addressed, and maybe that's because it was seen to be too difficult to deal with, or just easier to ignore, and it wasn't necessary to the national infrastructure of the country. But, of course, we now know that many of these roads are not just unsuitable for emergency vehicles - and I was looking at a case where an ambulance actually got lodged in a pothole on one of these roads back in 2014 - but, of course, those road surfaces aren't even suitable for modern motor vehicles of any standard. So, this is a problem that has existed for far too long. I'm delighted that Dai Lloyd asked me to be a subscriber. I think there is general agreement in this Chamber that something does now need to be done. So, let's get on with the job of doing that, let's get a proper survey, get that taskforce under way, get a survey to see what were actually dealing with, and then look to bring all our roads up to a satisfactory standard so that motorists and emergency vehicles can drive on safe roads.
Welsh: Diolch, Lee. [ Chwerthin.] Rwy'n falch o gael siarad â Lee Waters a gweddill y Cynulliad yn ogystal. Rwy'n falch o gefnogi'r cynnig hwn. Mae ffyrdd yn fater sy'n agos at fy nghalon, pa un a wyf yn eu cefnogi neu'n eu gwrthwynebu, gyda rhai o fy nghyd-Aelodau weithiau. Ac wrth wraidd y cynnig hwn mae'r ffaith, pan fyddwch yn gadael lonydd prysur ein traffyrdd a'n ffyrdd A a ffyrdd B, mae llawer o'n ffyrdd gwledig a hefyd, fel y clywsom, ein ffyrdd trefol ymhell islaw'r safon y byddem yn ei disgwyl, ac mae llawer o siaradwyr eisoes wedi siarad am y problemau hynny. Roeddwn yn edrych ar wefan y Resident Adoption Action Group, sy'n amlinellu rhai o'r materion sy'n effeithio ar ein ffyrdd heb eu mabwysiadu yng Nghymru, gan gynnwys y ffaith na chynhelir archwiliadau iechyd a diogelwch rheolaidd i sicrhau bod y ffyrdd yn cael eu cadw'n ddiogel. Ac mae hon yn broblem genedlaethol, mae defnyddwyr ffyrdd di-rif yn rheolaidd yn gyrru ar ffyrdd anniogel a heb eu rheoleiddio. Fel y soniodd Mike Hedges a siaradwyr eraill, gall datblygwyr arbed miloedd yn aml drwy osgoi'r cytundebau cyfreithiol sy'n trosglwyddo'r ffyrdd i reolaeth yr awdurdod lleol - mater heb unrhyw sgil-effeithiau i'r datblygwyr hynny yn ôl pob golwg. Ac rwy'n cefnogi galwad Mike Hedges ac eraill i roi hyn ar sail statudol o bosibl i wneud yn siŵr fod mabwysiadu ffyrdd yn rhan o'r broses gynllunio honno ar y cychwyn. Yn amlwg, mae angen inni wneud ffyrdd heb eu mabwysiadu yn flaenoriaeth, ac er mwyn gwneud hynny'n llawn, rydym angen ystadegau cyfredol. Rwy'n dal i chwerthin am y modd y soniodd Dai Lloyd am arolwg yr Adran Drafnidiaeth yn 1972 a ganfu fod oddeutu 40,000 o ffyrdd heb eu mabwysiadu yng Nghymru a Lloegr. Credaf y byddai'n ddefnyddiol pe bai gennym ystadegau ar gyfer Cymru. Felly, rwy'n cefnogi'r alwad am dasglu ac yn gofyn i Ysgrifennydd yr economi a seilwaith i edrych ar gael ystadegau cyfredol ar y seilwaith hwnnw. Credaf fod yna olau ar ben draw'r twnnel hwn - maddeuwch y chwarae ar eiriau - ac os edrychwn yn ôl drwy hanes, fel y gwnaeth David Melding, mae rheswm da i fod yn obeithiol ar gyfer y dyfodol. Mewn gwirionedd, nid oedd ffyrdd yn y DU yn cael eu dosbarthu o gwbl tan y 1920au, ac ni chafodd y dosbarthiad ei dacluso tan y 1930au. Yn y dyddiau hynny, byddent yn cynnal ailasesiad treigl blynyddol o ddosbarthiad ffyrdd - ac mae'n debyg ei fod yn llawer mwy cyfredol nag y bu ers 1972, ond roeddent yn cydnabod pwysigrwydd strwythur ffyrdd da. Ac ar ddechrau'r ail ryfel byd, roedd y rhwydwaith ffyrdd mewn cyflwr gwael, ac ar ôl y rhyfel honno, roedd hi'n glir fod rhywbeth - [ Torri ar draws.] Llywodraeth Dorïaidd - peidiwch â bod mor hunandybus. [ Chwerthin.] Ar ôl yr ail ryfel byd, roedd hi'n amlwg fod angen gwneud rhywbeth, a chafwyd y rhaglen adeiladu ffyrdd a gwelliannau ffyrdd sydd wedi bod yn digwydd ers hynny. Ond drwy gydol yr amser, o dan Lywodraethau Llafur a Llywodraethau Ceidwadol a llywodraethau clymblaid, ni aethpwyd i'r afael â mater ffyrdd heb eu mabwysiadu, ac efallai mai'r rheswm am hynny oedd oherwydd y teimlid ei fod yn fater rhy anodd ymdrin ag ef, neu'n haws ei anwybyddu, ac nid oedd yn angenrheidiol i seilwaith cenedlaethol y wlad. Ond wrth gwrs, fe wyddom bellach fod llawer o'r ffyrdd hyn yn gwbl anaddas ar gyfer cerbydau brys - ac roeddwn yn edrych ar achos yn ddiweddar pan aeth ambiwlans yn sownd mewn twll ar un o'r ffyrdd hyn yn ôl yn 2014 - ond wrth gwrs, nid yw'r arwynebau ffordd hynny'n addas hyd yn oed ar gyfer cerbydau modur modern o unrhyw safon. Felly, mae hon yn broblem sydd wedi bodoli ers llawer gormod o amser. Rwy'n falch fod Dai Lloyd wedi gofyn imi gefnogi'r cynnig. Credaf y ceir cytundeb cyffredinol yn y Siambr hon bellach fod angen gwneud rhywbeth. Felly, gadewch inni fwrw ymlaen â'r gwaith o wneud hynny, gadewch i ni gael arolwg priodol, cael y tasglu ar ei draed, cael arolwg i weld beth yn union rydym yn ymdrin ag ef, ac yna sicrhau bod ein holl ffyrdd yn cyrraedd safon foddhaol fel y gall modurwyr a cherbydau brys yrru ar ffyrdd diogel.