English: Well, I thank again the leader the opposition for that. I am very familiar with the second-offer scheme that we had here in Wales over a decade ago, having been heavily involved in it at the time. We already use capacity outside the area in which somebody lives in order to be able to accelerate treatment wherever we can. We are using capacity in the not-for-profit sector. We are encouraging health boards to make sure that if they are able to, they work collaboratively together, so if there is capacity in a neighbouring health board, that becomes used for patients as well. There were downsides to the second-offer scheme that those of us involved will remember. Many patients are very reluctant to travel long distances for treatment. What they look for is effective treatment as close to home as possible, and not everybody is resourced - not simply in monetary terms, but just in terms of having somebody who can go with you. Our second-offer scheme paid for you to be accompanied by a family member or a friend if you were going a long distance for an orthopaedic operation, for example. Not everybody's in a position to be able to find somebody in a position to do all of that, so what you found was that some people were able to take advantage of the second-offer scheme - not always the people who were in greatest clinical need - whereas other people, their circumstances simply meant that the scheme wasn't useable by them. So, a simple return to a scheme of the sort we had before, I don't think that is what we will be looking for. But we do expect the health service to use every available piece of capacity, and not simply to expect that people will use the capacity directly available in their own local health board area.
Welsh: Wel, diolch eto i arweinydd yr wrthblaid am hynna. Rwy'n gyfarwydd iawn â'r cynllun ail gynnig a oedd gennym ni yma yng Nghymru dros ddegawd yn ôl, ar ôl cymryd rhan fawr ynddo ar y pryd. Rydym ni eisoes yn defnyddio capasiti y tu allan i'r ardal lle mae rhywun yn byw er mwyn gallu cyflymu triniaeth lle bynnag y gallwn. Rydym ni'n defnyddio capasiti yn y sector di-elw. Rydym ni'n annog byrddau iechyd i wneud yn siŵr eu bod nhw'n cydweithio os ydyn nhw'n gallu, felly os oes capasiti mewn bwrdd iechyd cyfagos, mae hwnnw cael ei ddefnyddio ar gyfer cleifion hefyd. Roedd anfanteision i'r cynllun ail gynnig y bydd y rhai ohonom ni a gymerodd ran ynddo yn eu cofio. Mae nifer o gleifion yn amharod iawn i deithio pellteroedd maith i gael triniaeth. Yr hyn y maen nhw'n chwilio amdano yw triniaeth effeithiol mor agos at adref â phosibl, ac nid oes gan bawb adnoddau - nid yn unig o safbwynt ariannol, ond dim ond o ran cael rhywun sy'n gallu mynd gyda chi. Roedd ein cynllun ail gynnig ni yn talu i aelod o'r teulu neu ffrind fynd gyda chi os oeddech chi'n teithio pellter maith i gael llawdriniaeth orthopedig, er enghraifft. Nid yw pawb mewn sefyllfa i allu dod o hyd i rywun mewn sefyllfa i wneud hynny i gyd, felly'r hyn a welsoch chi oedd bod rhai pobl yn gallu manteisio ar y cynllun ail gynnig - nid y bobl a oedd â'r angen clinigol mwyaf bob amser - tra bod pobl eraill, roedd eu hamgylchiadau yn golygu'n syml nad oedd modd iddyn nhw ddefnyddio'r cynllun. Felly, dychweliad syml i gynllun o'r math a oedd gennym ni o'r blaen, dydw i ddim yn meddwl mai dyna fyddwn ni'n chwilio amdano. Ond rydym ni'n disgwyl i'r gwasanaeth iechyd ddefnyddio pob darn o gapasiti sydd ar gael, ac nid disgwyl yn syml y bydd pobl yn defnyddio'r capasiti sydd ar gael yn uniongyrchol yn eu hardal bwrdd iechyd lleol eu hunain.