English: I'd like to contribute only briefly to this debate. Like others, I warmly welcome the motion that the Government and opposition parties have placed before us this afternoon, and I'm very happy to endorse and support that. I think we should also welcome the work of the Welsh Affairs Select Committee. Now, I accept I have somewhat of an interest in this matter, but it is one of the instruments of the House of Commons and of the Westminster system that has been consistently supportive of the work of this place and which has recognised how we need and can develop institutional scrutiny and democracy across the United Kingdom. Now, I believe that we should be devolving this particular tax because I believe that we should ensure that we have a coherence of structural devolution. I'm not one of these people who believes that we should devolve any particular matter unless there's something we especially want to do with it that is different to that which is done in England. I've never been one of those devolutionists who simply want to define what we are here in Wales as being different to the other side of Offa's Dyke. I believe that we should have coherence in the settlement. I believe that, at present, the settlement is a broken settlement. You only have to listen to any debate on transport to look at that. You have the issues that I have with the railway from Ebbw Vale to Cardiff, which are matters that are ignored by the Department for Transport in England, and the Government here do not have sufficient powers to progress matters as we would choose to do. There is a structural issue there with the settlement, and I believe there's a structural issue here with the settlement as well. I believe that, if the Welsh Government - and the Welsh Government is the only authority that has the ability to properly manage transport policy in Wales, so if it is to do that in a coherent fashion then it must have the powers available to it to deliver that policy, whatever that policy happens to be. And air passenger duty is a part of that. It's part of a suite of different powers that should be available to the Government to enable it to deliver a holistic policy. So, I believe that we should support the work of the select committee in this matter, and I believe we should support the long-standing view of the Welsh Government that this is devolved as part of a wider fiscal framework, which will establish a very different financial relationship between the different institutions of the United Kingdom. We've already seen this argument made coherently by both Silk and by Holtham. Both have been very, very clear that, if we are seeking to devolve issues of taxation then we should do it, not on a piecemeal basis but in order to deliver a stable settlement where both Governments in England and here in Wales are able to deliver their policy in a holistic manner. We've already seen this failure with the judicial system, where criminal justice again represents a part of a broken settlement. I hope that, in resolving these matters, we may reach a point whereby we have a stable and coherent settlement before either I retire or my constituents decide it is time for me to retire. I hope that, in taking this matter forward, the United Kingdom Government will take a more rounded view on these matters. I'm not sure if I share the optimism of Andrew R.T. Davies and Nick Ramsay that a new Prime Minister later this year will lead to such a happy outcome, but what I hope we'll be able to do - and the former First Minister has spoken clearly about this, our new First Minister has spoken very convincingly about this as well - is to arrive at a point where the settlement works and the settlement no longer becomes the point of debate but how we operate the settlement and the policy options that we have become the area of debate, and that is how any democracy should properly operate. So, I don't wish to enter into a debate, and I hope we don't cloud the debate this afternoon with questions about how the Government would operate this taxation. That is a matter for manifestos, election and political debate in this place. What this place has a responsibility to do - and we failed with the last Wales Bill or Wales Act process because of the lethargy in Whitehall in delivering a devolved settlement that enables us to take these matters forward. I hope now that through this report and other reports we'll be able to ensure that we do have a devolved settlement that enables both Governments to deliver their policy.
Welsh: Hoffwn gyfrannu'n fyr at y ddadl hon. Fel eraill, rwy'n croesawu'n fawr y cynnig y mae'r Llywodraeth a'r gwrthbleidiau wedi'i roi ger ein bron y prynhawn yma, ac rwy'n falch iawn o gymeradwyo a chefnogi hynny. Credaf y dylem ni hefyd groesawu gwaith y Pwyllgor Dethol ar Faterion Cymreig. Nawr, rwy'n derbyn bod gennyf rywfaint o ddiddordeb yn y mater hwn, ond mae'n un o offerynnau Tŷ'r Cyffredin a system San Steffan sydd wedi bod yn gyson gefnogol i waith y lle hwn ac sydd wedi cydnabod sut y mae arnom ni angen a sut y gallwn ni ddatblygu craffu a democratiaeth sefydliadol ar draws y Deyrnas Unedig. Nawr, credaf y dylem ni fod yn datganoli'r dreth benodol hon oherwydd credaf y dylem ni sicrhau bod datganoli strwythurol yn cael ei gydlynu. Dydw i ddim yn un o'r bobl hyn sy'n credu y dylem ni ddatganoli unrhyw fater penodol oni bai fod rhywbeth yr ydym ni eisiau ei wneud yn arbennig gyda'r mater hwnnw yn wahanol i'r hyn a wneir yn Lloegr. Nid wyf erioed wedi bod yn un o'r datganolwyr hynny sydd eisiau diffinio'r hyn yr ydym ni yma yng Nghymru fel rhywbeth gwahanol i'r hyn a geir dros Glawdd Offa. Credaf y dylem ni gael cydlyniad yn y setliad. Credaf fod y setliad, ar hyn o bryd, yn setliad diffygiol. Nid oes ond rhaid ichi wrando ar unrhyw ddadl am drafnidiaeth i weld hynny. Dyna ichi'r problemau sydd gennyf ynghylch y rheilffordd o Lynebwy i Gaerdydd, sy'n faterion sy'n cael eu hanwybyddu gan yr adran drafnidiaeth yn Lloegr, ac nid oes gan y Llywodraeth yn y fan hon ddigon o bwerau i fwrw ymlaen â materion fel y byddem yn dewis ei wneud. Mae problem strwythurol yn y fan yna o ran y setliad, a chredaf fod problem strwythurol yma o ran y setliad hefyd. Credaf, os byddai Llywodraeth Cymru - a Llywodraeth Cymru yw'r unig awdurdod sydd â'r gallu i reoli polisi trafnidiaeth yng Nghymru yn briodol, felly os yw am wneud hynny mewn modd cydlynol yna mae'n rhaid iddi gael y pwerau i gyflawni'r polisi hwnnw, beth bynnag yw'r polisi hwnnw. Ac mae toll teithwyr awyr yn rhan o hynny. Mae'n rhan o gyfres o bwerau gwahanol a ddylai fod ar gael i'r Llywodraeth i'w galluogi i gyflawni polisi cyfannol. Felly, credaf y dylem ni gefnogi gwaith y pwyllgor dethol yn y mater hwn, a chredaf y dylem ni gefnogi barn hirsefydlog Llywodraeth Cymru bod hwn i'w ddatganoli yn rhan o fframwaith cyllidol ehangach, a fydd yn sefydlu perthynas ariannol wahanol iawn rhwng gwahanol sefydliadau'r Deyrnas Unedig. Rydym ni eisoes wedi gweld y ddadl hon yn cael ei chyflwyno'n gydlynol gan Silk a gan Holtham. Mae'r ddau wedi bod yn glir iawn iawn petaem yn ceisio datganoli materion trethiant yna dylem wneud hynny, nid yn dameidiog ond er mwyn cyflwyno setliad sefydlog pryd gall y Llywodraeth yn Lloegr ac yma yng Nghymru gyflawni eu polisi mewn ffordd gyfannol. Rydym ni eisoes wedi gweld y methiant hwn gyda'r system farnwrol, lle mae cyfiawnder troseddol eto'n cynrychioli rhan o setliad diffygiol. Gobeithiaf y byddwn, wrth ddatrys y materion hyn, yn gallu cyrraedd sefyllfa pryd y bydd gennym ni setliad sefydlog a chydlynol cyn imi ymddeol neu cyn i fy etholwyr benderfynu ei bod yn bryd imi ymddeol. Gobeithiaf, wrth fwrw ymlaen â'r mater hwn, y bydd Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Unedig yn cymryd safbwynt mwy cyflawn ynghylch y materion hyn. Nid wyf i'n siŵr os ydw i'n rhannu optimistiaeth Andrew R.T. Davies a Nick Ramsay y bydd Prif Weinidog newydd y DU yn ddiweddarach eleni yn arwain at ganlyniad mor hapus, ond yr hyn yr wyf yn gobeithio y byddwn yn gallu ei wneud - ac mae cyn Brif Weinidog Cymru wedi siarad yn glir am hyn, mae Prif Weinidog newydd Cymru wedi siarad yn hynod o argyhoeddiadol am hyn hefyd - yw cyrraedd sefyllfa lle mae'r setliad yn gweithio ac nad y setliad bellach yw'r pwynt trafod, ond mai sut rydym ni'n gweithredu'r setliad a'r dewisiadau polisi sydd gennym fydd maes y drafodaeth, a dyna sut y dylai unrhyw ddemocratiaeth weithredu'n briodol. Felly, nid wyf eisiau dechrau dadl, ac rwy'n gobeithio na fyddwn yn cymylu'r ddadl y prynhawn yma gyda chwestiynau ynghylch sut y byddai'r Llywodraeth yn gweithredu'r trethiant hwn. Mae hynny'n fater ar gyfer maniffestos, etholiadau a dadleuon gwleidyddol yn y fan hon. Yr hyn y mae'r lle hwn yn gyfrifol am ei wneud - ac fe wnaethom ni fethu gyda phroses Deddf Cymru y tro diwethaf oherwydd y syrthni yn Whitehall wrth gyflawni setliad datganoledig sy'n ein galluogi i fwrw ymlaen â'r materion hyn. Rwy'n gobeithio nawr y byddwn ni, drwy'r adroddiad hwn ac adroddiadau eraill, yn gallu sicrhau bod gennym ni setliad datganoledig sy'n galluogi'r ddwy Lywodraeth i gyflawni eu polisi.