English: I agree 100 per cent with what you say. There's been a shift, partly because people have chosen that shift within education, and because local government - sometimes voluntarily, and sometimes not so voluntarily - have responded to it. And the Government have responded to it too, ultimately. So, much of it has happened, but in reality, there has been no appropriate planning carried out in that area on a national scale. You're entirely right that we need to see a plan. Because, as I've said, it's one thing to respond to demand in an area such as Cardiff, but there are some complex problems outwith Cardiff, although there are hopeful signs. But to do that, you have to have a workforce that is appropriate. There is a huge risk, if teachers don't have the appropriate skills, and if there isn't the appropriate ethos within the school, that a Welsh-medium school could be very superficially successful, but in reality, not achieving its objectives. There are excellent examples the length and breadth of Wales in the secondary sector. Ysgol Gyfun Gwynllyw, for example - I'm not saying it's unique, but it stands out as a school that, one way or another, produces bilingual confident, fluent speakers, and that is all about the ethos of the school. You need that kind of ethos in all schools - all the Welsh-medium schools - because it's not easy, particularly when the vast majority of the pupils come from non-Welsh speaking backgrounds. So, the staff, the head and all of the support services must be very clear as to how they achieve that task. To do that, you have to have a very clear vision from the centre, I would argue. The county councils, at the moment, don't have the resources or the expertise to ensure that that happens.
Welsh: Ond rydw i'n cytuno 100 y cant efo'r hyn yr ydych chi'n ei ddweud. Mae yna shifft wedi digwydd, yn rhannol oherwydd bod pobl wedi dewis shifft o fewn byd addysg, a bod llywodraeth leol - weithiau yn wirfoddol, a weithiau ddim mor wirfoddol - wedi ymateb iddo fo. Ac mae'r Llywodraeth wedi ymateb iddo fo hefyd, yn y pen draw. Felly, mae yna lot ohono fo wedi digwydd, ond mewn gwirionedd, nid oes yna gynllunio priodol wedi ei wneud yn y maes hwnnw ar raddfa genedlaethol. Rydych chi'n hollol iawn bod angen inni weld cynllun. Oherwydd fel yr oeddwn i'n ei ddweud, un peth ydy ymateb i'r galw mewn lle fel Caerdydd, ond mae yna broblemau pur dyrys y tu allan i Gaerdydd, er bod yna arwyddion gobeithiol. Ond i wneud hynny, mae'n rhaid ichi gael gweithlu sydd yn gallu gwneud y gwaith. Mae yna beryg mawr, os nad oes gan athrawon y sgiliau priodol, a bod yna ethos briodol yn yr ysgol, y gall ysgol gyfrwng Cymraeg fod yn arwynebol lwyddiannus ond, mewn gwirionedd, ddim yn cyflawni ei gwaith. Mae yna enghreifftiau gwych ar hyd a lled Cymru o ran y sector uwchradd. Mae ysgol Gwynllyw, er enghraifft - nid wyf yn dweud ei bod hi'n unigryw, ond mae'n sefyll allan fel ysgol sydd, rywsut neu'i gilydd, yn cynhyrchu siaradwyr dwyieithog rhugl, hyderus, ac y mae hynny'n ymwneud ag ethos yr ysgol. Rydych chi angen y math yna o ethos mewn ysgolion - ym mhob un ysgol cyfrwng Cymraeg - achos nid ydyw'n hawdd, yn enwedig pan fo mwyafrif llethol y plant yn dod o gefndir di-Gymraeg. Felly, mae'n rhaid ichi - mae'n rhaid i'r staff, y pennaeth, a'r holl wasanaethau cefnogol fod yn glir iawn sut y mae cyflawni'r dasg yma. I wneud hynny, mae'n rhaid ichi gael gweledigaeth glir iawn, iawn o'r canol, byddwn i'n ei ddadlau. Nid oes gan y cynghorau sir, ar hyn o bryd, yr adnoddau na'r arbenigedd i sicrhau bod hynny'n digwydd.