English: Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd. I raise a point of order under Standing Order 13.9, Maintenance of Order, and I do so to support your position, Llywydd. If we look at Standing Order 13.9 (i), Members are required to be called to order if they engage 'in conduct which would, in the opinion of the Presiding Officer, constitute a criminal offence or contempt of court'. I remind Members that privilege does not apply to the commission of criminal offences in this Chamber. It applies only when it comes to civil matters and not to do with criminal matters. I have heard from Mark Reckless today, and I ask him to reflect on this, a question that was put to the First Minister about the Minister for Finance and Trefnydd, Rebecca Evans, about data that could only have been obtained in a way that had come from a covert recording. If data from a covert recording, which mentions a third party, is made public, that is potentially an offence, and I ask you to reflect on that and to rule on that. I also draw your attention to 13.9 (iv): a Member who 'is guilty of discourteous or unbecoming conduct'. We are all in this Chamber, from time to time, pushed to behave in a way that we wouldn't otherwise. It's part of the normal workings of democracy. We know that this Chamber is a lively place, but it is not becoming, nor is it discourteous, to accuse the Presiding Officer of bias and then offer weasel words - weasel words - and fail to withdraw that allegation. SO 13.9 (v) deals with 'using disorderly, discriminatory or offensive language'. Well, disorderly language, I think, was implicit and explicit in what was said by Mark Reckless. SO 13.9 (vi): 'refuses to conform to any Standing Order or other requirement for the conduct of Members'. He did not comply with the request that you made to him that he should withdraw the allegation of bias. He would not have been allowed to do that in any other place, and I do not want this Chamber to be seen as somewhere where people can get away with things. Otherwise, that is a road to complete chaos. And, finally, 13.9 (vii): disregarding the authority of the chair. I've seen two Members do that in this Chamber this afternoon. I saw the Member, Neil McEvoy, who incidentally is not here, and I wouldn't refer to that otherwise, but I think it's worth referring to the tweet he's just sent out. A tweet sent out by Neil McEvoy: '@yLlywydd should have declared an interest today, before discussing the recordings I made. She was mentioned in them. Questions to answer.' Not even in the Chamber, but he's attacking you, Llywydd, and I saw him effectively shout you down or try to shout you down this afternoon, and that is behaviour that all of us in this Chamber, I know, would utterly condemn. And I have to say, Mark Reckless, in what he said when he failed to withdraw on your specific request an allegation of bias in a way that was unconditional, and again I ask him to reflect on that, that I thought was a complete disregard, almost a contempt, for the Presiding Officer of the National Assembly for Wales. And I say all these things to support you, Llywydd. I ask you, then, to look at Standing Order 13.9 (i) and consider your powers under that Standing Order to deal with a situation, the like of which I have not seen in 20 years in this Chamber.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd. Rwy'n codi pwynt o drefn o dan Reol Sefydlog 13.9, Cadw Trefn, a gwnaf hynny i gefnogi eich safbwynt, Llywydd. Os edrychwn i ar Reol Sefydlog 13.9 (i), mae'n ofynnol bod yr Aelodau'n cael eu galw i drefn os ydyn nhw'n 'ymddwyn mewn ffordd a fyddai, ym marn y Llywydd, yn gyfystyr â thramgwydd troseddol neu ddirmyg llys'. Rwy'n atgoffa'r Aelodau nad yw braint yn berthnasol i awdurdodi troseddau yn y Siambr hon. Dim ond pan ddaw'n fater o faterion sifil nad ydyn nhw'n ymwneud â materion troseddol y mae'n berthnasol. Rwyf wedi clywed gan Mark Reckless heddiw, a gofynnaf iddo fyfyrio ar hyn, cwestiwn a gyflwynwyd i'r Prif Weinidog ynghylch y Gweinidog Cyllid a Threfydd, Rebecca Evans, am y data nad oedd modd ei gael ond trwy recordio'n gudd. Os yw data o recordiad cudd, sy'n sôn am drydydd parti, yn cael ei roi ar goedd, gall hynny fod yn drosedd, a gofynnaf ichi ystyried hynny a dyfarnu ar hynny. Tynnaf eich sylw hefyd at 13.9 (iv): Aelod 'sy'n euog o ymddygiad anghwrtais neu amhriodol'. Rydym ni i gyd yn y Siambr hon, o bryd i'w gilydd, yn cael ein gwthio i ymddwyn mewn ffordd na fyddem ni fel arall. Mae'n rhan arferol o weithredu democratiaeth. Gwyddom fod y Siambr hon yn lle bywiog, ond nid yw'n weddus, nac yn anghwrtais ychwaith, i gyhuddo'r Llywydd o ragfarn ac yna gynnig geiriau camarweiniol - geiriau camarweiniol - a methu â thynnu'r honiad hwnnw'n ôl. Mae Rheol Sefydlog 13.9 (v) yn ymdrin â 'defnyddio iaith sy'n groes i'r drefn, iaith sy'n gwahaniaethu neu sy'n peri tramgwydd'. Wel, roedd iaith sy'n groes i drefn, fe gredaf i, ymhlyg ac yn eglur yn yr hyn a ddywedwyd gan Mark Reckless. Rheol Sefydlog 13.9 (vi): 'gwrthod cydymffurfio ag unrhyw Reol Sefydlog neu ag unrhyw ofyniad arall ynglŷn ag ymddygiad Aelodau'. Nid oedd ef wedi cydymffurfio â'r cais gennych iddo dynnu'r honiad o ragfarn yn ôl. Ni fyddai wedi cael gwneud hynny mewn unrhyw le arall, ac nid wyf eisiau i'r Siambr hon gael ei gweld fel rhywle lle y gall pobl gael rhwydd hynt i wneud unrhyw beth. Fel arall, mae hynny'n arwain at anhrefn lwyr. Ac, yn olaf, 13.9 (vii): diystyru awdurdod y Cadeirydd. Rwyf i wedi gweld dau aelod yn gwneud hynny yn y Siambr hon y prynhawn yma. Gwelais yr Aelod, Neil McEvoy, nad yw yma gyda llaw, ac ni fyddwn yn cyfeirio at hynny fel arall, ond rwy'n credu ei bod yn werth cyfeirio at y trydariad y mae newydd ei anfon. Trydariad wedi'i anfon gan Neil McEvoy: dylai @yLlywydd fod wedi datgan diddordeb heddiw, cyn trafod y recordiadau a wnaed gennyf i. Cyfeiriwyd ati hi ynddyn nhw. Cwestiynau i'w hateb. Nid yw hyd yn oed yn y Siambr, ond mae'n ymosod arnoch chi, Llywydd. Ac i bob pwrpas, fe'i gwelais yn gweiddi ar eich traws neu'n ceisio gweiddi ar eich traws y prynhawn yma, a dyna ymddygiad y byddai pob un ohonom ni yn y Siambr hon, gwn hynny, yn ei gondemnio'n llwyr. Ac mae'n rhaid imi ddweud, Mark Reckless, yn yr hyn a ddywedodd pan fethodd â thynnu'n ôl, ar eich cais penodol chi, gyhuddiad o ragfarn mewn modd a oedd yn ddiamod, ac unwaith eto gofynnaf iddo ef fyfyrio ar hynny, ac roedd yn diystyru'n llwyr, yn fy marn i, bron yn ddirmygus o, Lywydd Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru. A dywedaf yr holl bethau hyn i'ch cefnogi chi, Llywydd. Gofynnaf i chi, felly, edrych ar Reol Sefydlog 13.9 (i) ac ystyried eich pwerau o dan y Rheol Sefydlog honno i ymdrin â sefyllfa nad wyf wedi gweld ei thebyg mewn 20 mlynedd yn y Siambr hon.