English: So, not just ethnic minorities, but others as well. I think the Member would have been better using that contribution to apologise to the people in Cardiff, rather than make opportunities there. And the issue that Michelle Brown raised as well, I listened very carefully to that. She belittles the issue around carrier bag charges. Long gone are the days, I hope, where we saw trees covered in carrier bags. We used to grow them in Wales, but now that doesn't seem to appear. We've managed to control that issue. There is also the issue that we have to be responsible for the population, but everybody's got a responsibility around waste. In my contribution, at the start, I did mention to the Member and the Chamber about enhanced producer responsibility and the issue around food waste as well, so I would hope that I've given the Member some confidence in terms of what we're able to do here in Wales. Simon Thomas, again, very supportive with his contribution, and is long a campaigner on environmental standards. Can I just pick up on the last two points with the Conservative Members? Russell George gave me some challenges. Well, I'll give him some responses, and Darren Miller, his companion, the chewing gum champion from the north. They say one thing, but really they mean another. They say that they're supportive of recycling and it's going really well, but, actually, when it comes to the proof of the pudding, they want to object to all the changes that local authorities need to do in that process. [Interruption.] It is true, because let's take the Russell George. I understand, Russell. You asked me about what can Powys do - you're a councillor in the authority - and what else we can do to help. What it does help with Powys council is when they're able to spend their budget, but I believe that you voted against their budget in terms of allowing them to create a better environment for recycling.
Welsh: Felly, nid dim ond lleiafrifoedd ethnig, ond eraill hefyd. Rwy'n meddwl y byddai wedi bod yn well i'r Aelod ddefnyddio'r cyfraniad yna i ymddiheuro i bobl Caerdydd, yn hytrach na gwneud cyfleoedd yn y fan yna. A'r mater a gododd Michelle Brown yn ogystal, gwrandewais yn astud iawn ar hynny. Mae hi'n bychanu'r mater o amgylch taliadau am fagiau siopa. Mae'r dyddiau wedi hen fynd, rwy'n gobeithio, pan oedden ni'n gweld coed wedi'u gorchuddio â bagiau plastig. Roedden ni'n arfer eu tyfu nhw yng Nghymru, ond nawr nid yw'n ymddangos bod hynny i'w weld. Rydym wedi llwyddo i reoli'r mater hwnnw. Mae yna hefyd y mater bod yn rhaid inni fod yn gyfrifol am y boblogaeth, ond mae gan bawb gyfrifoldeb ynglŷn â gwastraff. Yn fy nghyfraniad, ar y dechrau, soniais wrth yr Aelod a'r Siambr am fwy o gyfrifoldeb i gynhyrchwyr a'r mater yn ymwneud â gwastraff bwyd hefyd, felly byddwn yn gobeithio fy mod wedi rhoi rhywfaint o hyder i'r Aelod o ran yr hyn y gallwn ei wneud yma yng Nghymru. Simon Thomas, unwaith eto, yn gefnogol iawn gyda'i gyfraniad, ac mae wedi ymgyrchu ers amser maith ar safonau amgylcheddol. A gaf i sôn am y ddau bwynt olaf gyda'r Aelodau Ceidwadol? Rhoddodd Russell George rai heriau i mi. Wel, rhof innau rai atebion iddo ef, a Darren Miller, ei gydymaith, yr hyrwyddwr gwm cnoi o'r gogledd. Maen nhw'n dweud un peth, ond mewn gwirionedd maen nhw'n golygu rhywbeth arall. Maen nhw'n dweud eu bod yn gefnogol i ailgylchu a'i fod yn mynd yn ei flaen yn dda iawn, ond, a dweud y gwir, yn y pen draw, maen nhw eisiau gwrthwynebu'r holl newidiadau y mae angen i awdurdodau lleol eu gwneud yn y broses honno. [Torri ar draws.] Mae'n wir, oherwydd gadewch inni sôn am Russell George. Rwy'n deall, Russell. Holasoch fi am yr hyn y gall Powys ei wneud - rydych yn gynghorydd yn yr awdurdod - a beth arall y gallwn ni ei wneud i helpu. Beth sydd yn helpu gyda Chyngor Powys yw eu bod yn gallu gwario eu cyllideb, ond rwy'n credu eich bod wedi pleidleisio yn erbyn eu cyllideb o ran caniatáu iddyn nhw greu gwell amgylchedd ar gyfer ailgylchu.