English: I thank the Cabinet Secretary for his statement today. Can I say I find it quite amusing - that's probably not the right word - when Conservatives squawk and croak about funding formulas, when Wales has been shafted by the Barnett formula for many, many years with very little protest from the benches opposite? Clearly, there's an agreement between Plaid Cymru and Welsh Government on the fundamental principle in terms of regional policy, that leaving the European Union should not mean that Wales is left short, either financially or in terms of responsibilities. As the Cabinet Secretary has said, Wales receives an annual amount of £370 million in European structural and investment funds and we should not lose a single penny of that money. That was the promise made by the separatists during the referendum and they should keep their promises. It is however worth remembering that Wales qualifies for so much regional aid from the EU because of its historic economic neglect at the hands of Westminster Governments of all shades, who have never fully addressed our economic needs. They have some cheek in Westminster now if they're showing an interest in stealing powers back over regional policy, when they have repeatedly shown no interest in regional policy, not just in Wales but in deprived parts of England as well and Scotland, over decades, particularly since they intentionally deindustrialised our communities. Llywydd, the stakes could not be higher when it comes to regional aid and the Welsh economy. It was sober reading recently to pick up the report by the Financial Inclusion Centre. In it, they list Wales as being one of the most vulnerable regions and nations in the UK to leaving the European Union when it comes to regional policy and wider economic policy. They said, and I quote: 'In the worst case scenario, some of the most vulnerable regions' - including Wales - 'could face a "triple whammy"a very significant loss of potential economic outputthe loss of EU funding. Third, unless fiscal transfers from stronger parts of the UK economy can be maintained at the same level to mitigate these impacts, the combined economic shock could be severe.' Those are the words of the Financial Inclusion Centre report. In terms of today's statement, I welcome the announcement that steps will be taken to create the infrastructure for a new Welsh regional policy post separation. I cannot however help but be concerned that all of this preparation will be done only to have the rug pulled from under its feet when the Westminster Government announced that regional policy will be centralised in London. I will be interested to know what the Cabinet Secretary makes of the comments expressed by the Prime Minister during the Tory Party conference to the media. As far as I could understand from what she was saying, she was insinuating that far from simply providing the money promised to Wales, new regional policy through the so-called shared prosperity fund would include a UK rulebook, decided in Westminster, enforced by Westminster, and spending will be decided upon in Whitehall as well. I found that very alarming. Far from being - . If we want to talk about parallel universes, talking about guaranteeing every single penny and power we have now goes completely contrary to what the Prime Minister said in statements to the media, as far as I could read in any case. In his statement, the Cabinet Secretary says that he does not expect meaningful discussions on successor funding arrangements to take place until the 2019 spending review. Can he clarify, does he believe that there won't be any discussions about the policy itself, or does he mean how that policy would be financed? I.e. is he expecting there to be meaningful discussion on the policy, i.e. that it is devolved and shall remain devolved, and then we will have a better idea for the precise nature of the funding at around the time of the 2019 spending review? Because we need to know fairly swiftly exactly the policy intentions of the UK Government. It's not acceptable to kick this can down the end of the road, pushing devolved Governments, as they are, into making preparations based on the best-case scenario, when I unfortunately fear that the worst-case scenario might come to pass. So, are formal discussions under way? Are more scheduled? Is there a clear timetable for deciding the shape of future regional policy as soon as possible? Also, in terms of the wider political debate that will happen now in the UK as this becomes an issue of increasing importance, can I ask the Cabinet Secretary: what is the policy of the UK Labour Party? Are they going to be batting in the same team as the Welsh Labour Government here when it comes to regional policy on the Labour front benches in Westminster? Will they vote down any attempts in the House of Commons to take regional policy powers away from Wales? What discussions has he had with party counterparts at the UK level in that respect? Crucially to all of this, if there are discussions under way, or if discussions will take place soon, can the Cabinet Secretary make a cast-iron promise to Members here today that, in any discussions on negotiations with the UK Government, he will not give our money away in the way he gave away some of our powers the last time he struck a deal with Westminster?
Welsh: Diolch i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet am ei ddatganiad heddiw. Gallaf ddweud fy mod i'n ei chael hi'n eithaf doniol - mae'n debyg nad dyna'r gair cywir - pan fo'r Ceidwadwyr yn grwgnach a rhygnu am fformiwlâu cyllido, pan fo Cymru wedi ei hesgeuluso gan fformwla Barnett ers blynyddoedd meithion gydag ychydig iawn o wrthwynebiad o'r meinciau gyferbyn? Yn amlwg, ceir cytundeb rhwng Plaid Cymru a Llywodraeth Cymru ar yr egwyddor sylfaenol o ran polisi rhanbarthol, na ddylai gadael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd olygu y bydd Cymru ar ei cholled, yn ariannol neu o ran cyfrifoldebau. Fel y dywedodd Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, mae Cymru yn cael swm blynyddol o £370 miliwn drwy gronfeydd strwythurol a buddsoddi Ewropeaidd ac ni ddylem ni golli ceiniog o'r arian hwnnw. Dyna'r addewid a wnaeth yr ymwahanwyr yn ystod y refferendwm ac fe ddylen nhw gadw at eu haddewidion. Mae hi fodd bynnag yn werth cofio bod Cymru'n gymwys am gymaint o gymorth rhanbarthol o'r UE oherwydd yr esgeulustod economaidd hanesyddol y mae hi wedi ei ddioddef dan law Llywodraethau o bob lliw yn San Steffan, nad ydyn nhw erioed wedi rhoi sylw llawn i'n hanghenion economaidd. Mae ganddyn nhw dipyn o wyneb yn San Steffan yn awr os ydyn nhw'n dangos diddordeb mewn dwyn pwerau dros bolisi rhanbarthol, pan nad ydyn nhw dro ar ôl tro wedi dangos unrhyw ddiddordeb mewn polisi rhanbarthol, nid yn unig yng Nghymru ond mewn rhannau difreintiedig o Loegr a'r Alban, dros ddegawdau, yn arbennig ers iddyn nhw ddad-ddiwydiannu ein cymunedau yn fwriadol. Llywydd, ni allai llawer mwy bod yn y fantol o ran cymorth rhanbarthol ac economi Cymru. Digalon yn ddiweddar oedd darllen adroddiad y Ganolfan Cynhwysiant Ariannol. Ynddo, maen nhw'n rhestru Cymru fel un o ranbarthau a chenedloedd mwyaf bregus yn y DU sy'n gadael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd o ran polisi rhanbarthol a pholisi economaidd ehangach. Roedd yr adroddiad yn dweud: 'Yn y sefyllfa waethaf, gallai rhai o'r rhanbarthau mwyaf bregus' - gan gynnwys Cymru - 'wynebu "ergyd driphlyg" colled sylweddol iawn o allbwn economaidd posibcolli cyllid yr UE. Yn drydydd, oni bai y gellir parhau i drosglwyddo cyllid o rannau cryfach o economi'r DU i'r un graddau er mwyn lliniaru'r effeithiau hyn, gallai'r ysgytwad economaidd, rhwng popeth, fod yn ddifrifol.' Dyna eiriau adroddiad y Ganolfan Cynhwysiant Ariannol. O ran datganiad heddiw, rwy'n croesawu'r cyhoeddiad y bydd camau'n cael eu cymryd i greu'r seilwaith ar gyfer polisi rhanbarthol newydd i Gymru wedi inni ymadael. Fodd bynnag, ni allaf beidio â phryderu y gwneir yr holl waith paratoi hwn dim ond i gael ein bwrw oddi ar ein hechel pan gyhoeddodd Lywodraeth San Steffan y caiff polisi rhanbarthol ei ganoli yn Llundain. Bydd yn ddiddorol gwybod beth yw barn Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet am y sylwadau a wnaeth Prif Weinidog y DU yn ystod cynhadledd y Blaid Dorïaidd i'r cyfryngau. O'r hyn a ddeallais o'r hyn a ddywedodd, roedd hi'n awgrymu yn hytrach na darparu'r arian a addawyd i Gymru, y byddai polisi rhanbarthol newydd drwy'r gronfa ffyniant gyffredin honedig yn cynnwys rheolau ar gyfer y DU, wedi eu penderfynu yn San Steffan, yn cael eu gorfodi gan San Steffan, ac y penderfynir ar wario yn Whitehall hefyd. Roedd hynny yn ddychrynllyd iawn. Ymhell o fod - . Os ydym ni eisiau sôn am fydoedd cyfochrog, mae sôn am warantu pob un geiniog a phŵer sydd gennym ni ar hyn o bryd yn gwbl groes i'r hyn a ddywedodd Prif Weinidog y DU mewn datganiadau i'r cyfryngau, cyn belled ag y gwelaf i, beth bynnag. Yn ei ddatganiad, mae Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet yn dweud nad yw'n disgwyl trafodaethau ystyrlon ar drefniadau cyllido olynol tan adolygiad gwariant 2019. A all egluro, a yw'n credu na fydd unrhyw drafodaethau ynghylch y polisi ei hun, neu a yw'n golygu sut caiff y polisi hwnnw ei gyllido? Hynny yw, a yw'n disgwyl cael trafodaeth ystyrlon ar y polisi, hynny yw, ei fod wedi'i ddatganoli ac y bydd yn aros wedi ei ddatganoli, ac yna bydd gennym ni well syniad o union natur y cyllid oddeutu adeg adolygiad gwariant 2019? Oherwydd mae angen inni wybod yn eithaf buan beth yn union yw bwriadau polisi Llywodraeth y DU. Nid yw'n dderbyniol llusgo traed ar hyn, gan roi pwysau ar lywodraethau datganoledig, fel y maen nhw, i wneud paratoadau yn seiliedig ar y sefyllfa orau, pan rwyf yn anffodus yn ofni y gallai'r sefyllfa waethaf ein hwynebu. Felly, a yw trafodaethau ffurfiol ar y gweill? Oes mwy wedi eu trefnu? A oes amserlen glir ar gyfer penderfynu ar ffurf polisi rhanbarthol y dyfodol cyn gynted â phosib? Hefyd, o ran y ddadl wleidyddol ehangach a fydd yn digwydd bellach yn y DU wrth i hyn ddod yn fater o bwysigrwydd cynyddol, a gaf i ofyn i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet: beth yw polisi Plaid Lafur y DU? A fyddan nhw yn cydweithio gyda Llywodraeth Lafur Cymru yn hyn o beth o ran polisi rhanbarthol ar feinciau blaen Llafur yn San Steffan? A fyddan nhw'n pleidleisio yn erbyn unrhyw ymdrechion yn Nhŷ'r Cyffredin i gymryd pwerau polisi rhanbarthol o Gymru? Pa drafodaethau y mae wedi'u cael â'i gymheiriaid yn ei blaid ar lefel y DU yn hynny o beth? Yn hanfodol i hyn i gyd, os oes trafodaethau ar y gweill, neu os caiff trafodaethau eu cynnal yn fuan, a all Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet wneud addewid pendant i Aelodau yma heddiw, mewn unrhyw drafodaethau ar negodi gyda Llywodraeth y DU, na fydd yn ildio ein harian yn y ffordd yr ildiodd rai o'n pwerau y tro diwethaf iddo daro bargen â San Steffan?