English: Carl Sargeant would've been disappointed had David Melding not put forward this amendment. I'm sure that he respected David's position completely, whilst he did not agree with it. And, what he said at the time was, 'I accept the Member's points regarding the need to build more houses, but while we're building them, we are still haemorrhaging them in terms of the right to buy and that cannot continue.' So, as a Member for Cardiff, I would be very alarmed at the proposal to delete the suspension of the right to buy in Cardiff. We have over 8,000 people on Cardiff's housing waiting list and this amendment would instantly invite the vultures to descend on Cardiff and start harassing people to exercise, so to speak, their right to buy, give them the deposit money and then move them to accommodation elsewhere, so that the vultures could then use this house, built with public funds, for private profit. So, I cannot support this amendment, and I hope that we will not, as a collective, either. There's a huge difference between council house rents in Cardiff and average rents in private rented accommodation in Cardiff, which is, unfortunately, way beyond what is affordable for people on low wages, and that is what prompts this inevitable level of exploitation. In my view, social housing in this level of a shortage has to be allocated on the basis of need, not on the basis of income. So, until we have no or negligible numbers on the housing waiting list, I do not think we can afford to let go of the valuable assets of council housing that we have, so I hope that we will defeat this amendment.
Welsh: Byddai Carl Sargeant wedi bod yn siomedig pe na fyddai David Melding wedi cyflwyno'r gwelliant hwn. Roedd yn parchu sefyllfa David yn llwyr, rwy'n siŵr, er nad oedd yn cytuno ag ef. A'r hyn a ddywedodd ar y pryd oedd, 'Rwy'n derbyn pwyntiau'r Aelod ynghylch yr angen i adeiladu mwy o dai, ond tra'r ydym ni'n eu hadeiladu, rydym yn dal i'w colli nhw drwy'r hawl i brynu ac ni all hynny barhau.' Felly, fel Aelod dros Gaerdydd, byddwn yn bryderus iawn ynghylch y cynnig i gael gwared ar atal yr hawl i brynu yng Nghaerdydd. Mae gennym fwy na 8,000 o bobl ar y rhestr aros am dai yng Nghaerdydd. Byddai'r gwelliant hwn ar unwaith yn gwahodd y fwlturiaid i ddisgyn ar Gaerdydd a dechrau poeni pobl i arfer eu hawl i brynu, yn rhoi'r arian blaendal iddynt ac yna'n eu symud i lety mewn mannau eraill, fel y gall y fwlturiaid ddefnyddio'r tŷ hwn, a adeiladwyd ag arian cyhoeddus, ar gyfer elw preifat. Felly, ni allaf gefnogi'r gwelliant hwn, ac rwy'n gobeithio na fyddwn ni, ar y cyd, yn gwneud hynny ychwaith. Mae gwahaniaeth enfawr rhwng rhenti tai cyngor yng Nghaerdydd a rhenti cyfartalog mewn llety rhent preifat yng Nghaerdydd, sydd, yn anffodus, ymhell y tu hwnt i'r hyn sy'n fforddiadwy i bobl ar gyflogau isel, a dyna sy'n ysgogi'r lefel anochel hon o gam-fanteisio. Yn fy marn i, gan fod cymaint o brinder, mae'n rhaid i dai cymdeithasol gael eu neilltuo ar sail angen yn hytrach nag ar sail incwm. Felly, hyd nes y bydd gennym neb, neu nifer fach iawn yn unig, ar y rhestr aros am dai, nid wyf yn credu y gallwn fforddio gollwng ein gafael ar yr asedau gwerthfawr o dai cyngor sydd gennym. Felly, rwy'n gobeithio y byddwn yn trechu'r gwelliant hwn.