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English: Diolch yn fawr iawn. In the first instance, I want to thank all the industry leaders who contributed to this particular inquiry and everybody who gave evidence. I'd also like to thank the Government for their response to the film and television industry report that we produced. The committee was fortunate to see the up-and-coming talent at the University of South Wales when we launched our report, and we were able to use the green screens there to be creative ourselves, so we enjoyed that. It was very impressive to see the number of high-profile productions and the range of jobs the students are involved in. So, well done to the students there. There is, obviously, good reason to celebrate the success of the film industry in this country. Over the last decade, growth has outstripped that across the UK, and studios here are responsible for international hits such as Doctor Who, His Dark Materials and Hinterland. But we have to move more swiftly and react faster to the demands of industry in a more agile way, and I simply don't believe that that's happening to the best of our abilities at the moment here in Wales. So, this report covers the whole spectrum of the industry, from funding, training, production and promotion. But I want to concentrate on funding and the Welsh Government's approach to support for the sector, and I know that other Members will talk about other elements of the report.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. I gychwyn, hoffwn ddiolch i holl arweinwyr y diwydiant a gyfrannodd at yr ymchwiliad penodol hwn a phawb a roddodd dystiolaeth. Hoffwn ddiolch hefyd i'r Llywodraeth am eu hymateb i'r adroddiad a gynhyrchwyd gennym ar y diwydiant ffilm a theledu. Roedd y pwyllgor yn ffodus i weld y dalent ddiweddaraf ym Mhrifysgol De Cymru pan lansiwyd ein hadroddiad, a chawsom ddefnyddio'r sgriniau gwyrdd yno i fod yn greadigol ein hunain, felly gwnaethom fwynhau hynny. Roedd yn wych gweld nifer y cynyrchiadau proffil uchel a'r amrywiaeth o swyddi y mae'r myfyrwyr yn rhan ohonynt. Felly, llongyfarchiadau i'r myfyrwyr yno. Yn amlwg, mae rheswm da i ddathlu llwyddiant y diwydiant ffilm yn y wlad hon. Dros y degawd diwethaf, mae'r twf wedi bod yn fwy na'r twf ledled y DU, ac mae stiwdios yma yn gyfrifol am lwyddiannau rhyngwladol fel Doctor Who, His Dark Materials a Hinterland. Ond mae'n rhaid i ni symud yn gynt ac ymateb yn gyflymach i ofynion y diwydiant mewn ffordd fwy ystwyth, ac ni chredaf fod hynny'n digwydd hyd eithaf ein gallu ar hyn o bryd yma yng Nghymru. Felly, mae'r adroddiad hwn yn mynd i'r afael â phob agwedd ar y diwydiant, o ariannu, hyfforddi, cynhyrchu a hyrwyddo. Ond hoffwn ganolbwyntio ar ariannu ac ymagwedd Llywodraeth Cymru tuag at gefnogaeth i'r sector, a gwn y bydd Aelodau eraill yn siarad am elfennau eraill o'r adroddiad.
English: Turning to the media investment budget, we are pleased to finally see the figures on the media investment budget. I understand that some of the projects are yet to reach their full commercial potential. but having waited so long for this information, it is disappointing to see that the actual performance of the fund is so far from initial projections. Of the seven projects managed by the Welsh Government, only one has recouped any money. For a total investment of over £5.1 million, only £75,000 profit has been made, and this is insufficient The picture looks a little better if we look at the projects previously managed by Pinewood, but it still shows that less than half of the nearly £10 million invested has been recouped. It's not a case of regretting the fact that the profits are so little after all this time. Rather, it's a shock to see the losses are so great, and I would like to understand the Deputy Minister's view on the reality of the situation. The media investment budget was supposed to be an investment fund, generating profits that were to be reinvested in further productions, but it was also meant to guarantee spend by major productions in Wales. The Wales Audit Office report states the intention of establishing a £30 million fund was to generate a £90 million spend in Wales. But, since 2014, only half of the budget has been spent, and it generated just over £25 million in Welsh spend.
Welsh: Cyllideb buddsoddi yn y cyfryngau - dŷn ni'n falch o weld y ffigurau ar y gyllideb buddsoddi yn y cyfryngau o'r diwedd. Deallaf nad yw rhai o'r prosiectau wedi cyrraedd eu potensial masnachol llawn eto, ond ar ôl aros mor hir am y wybodaeth hon, mae'n siomedig gweld bod gwir berfformiad y gronfa mor wahanol i'r rhagamcanion cychwynnol. O'r saith project a reolir gan Lywodraeth Cymru, dim ond un sydd wedi adennill unrhyw arian. Am gyfanswm o fwy na £5.1 miliwn o fuddsoddiad, dim ond elw o £75,000 sydd i'w ddangos, ac nid yw hwn yn ddigonol. Mae'r darlun yn edrych ychydig yn well os edrychwn ni ar y projectau a reolwyd yn flaenorol gan Pinewood, ond mae'n dal i ddangos bod llai na hanner y bron i £10 miliwn a fuddsoddwyd wedi'i adennill. Nid yw'n fater o ddifaru bod yr elw mor fach ar ôl cymaint o amser. Mae'n sioc gweld bod y colledion mor fawr, a hoffwn ddeall barn benodol y Gweinidog, yn y man, am realiti'r sefyllfa yma. Roedd y gyllideb buddsoddi yn y cyfryngau i fod yn gronfa fuddsoddi, gan gynhyrchu elw a fyddai'n cael ei ailfuddsoddi mewn cynyrchiadau eraill, ond y nod arall oedd gwarantu gwariant gan gynyrchiadau mawr yng Nghymru. Mae adroddiad Swyddfa Archwilio Cymru yn nodi mai'r bwriad o sefydlu cronfa gwerth £30 miliwn oedd cynhyrchu £90 miliwn o bunnoedd o wariant yng Nghymru. Ond, ers 2014, dim ond hanner y gyllideb sydd wedi'i wario, ac fe gynhyrchodd ychydig dros £25 miliwn o wariant yng Nghymru.
English: So, I would like the Deputy Minister to set out why the investment budget has generated only 15 per cent of the Welsh spend anticipated, and what he is doing to change this particular situation. This budget, after all, has existed for five years. Something, I believe, has gone very wrong. Either the initial estimates were wildly optimistic, or the performances of the projects have been exceptionally poor. Given that concerns about the budget were first raised by the creative industries sector panel in August 2016, there has been plenty of time to learn from mistakes and put things right. The issues with the Pinewood 'collaboration agreement' have been well documented by the Wales Audit Office and the Public Accounts Committee. Has anything changed as a result of these reports?
Welsh: Felly, hoffwn i'r Dirprwy Weinidog nodi pam mai 15 y cant yn unig o'r gwariant Cymreig a ragwelir a gynhyrchwyd gan y gyllideb fuddsoddi, a beth y mae'n ei wneud i newid y sefyllfa hon. Wedi'r cyfan, mae'r gyllideb hon wedi bodoli ers pum mlynedd. Credaf fod rhywbeth mawr wedi mynd o'i le. Naill ai fod yr amcangyfrifon cychwynnol yn ofnadwy o obeithiol, neu mae perfformiad y prosiectau wedi bod yn eithriadol o wael. O gofio bod panel y sector diwydiannau creadigol wedi mynegi pryderon am y gyllideb yn gyntaf ym mis Awst 2016, mae digon o amser wedi bod i ddysgu o'r camgymeriadau ac i unioni pethau. Mae'r problemau gyda 'chytundeb cydweithredu' Pinewood wedi cael llawer o sylw gan Swyddfa Archwilio Cymru a'r Pwyllgor Cyfrifon Cyhoeddus. A oes unrhyw beth wedi newid o ganlyniad i'r adroddiadau hyn?
English: In terms of Creative Wales, every time I talk about Creative Wales in the sector, there's a sharp intake of breath, waiting for further details. During the growth of the film industry, the Welsh Government has had several initiatives designed to boost the sector. But stakeholders felt that this action lacked focus. Screen Alliance Wales told us that projects have been funded randomly based on the profile of the company, without looking at a long-term, sustainable legacy for Wales. Whenever the committee has asked for greater focus, we have been told this leadership will be found in the yet-to-be-established body called Creative Wales. Since it was first announced in 2016, we are still waiting for the details of Creative Wales. We were told in February that the Minister would announce details on the form, function, preferred board members and the governance arrangements of Creative Wales in April of this year. The statement that was released in April gives no more information on any of these issues. It's filled with well-meaning phrases such as, 'Partnership and collaboration are key to successful delivery', and that Creative Wales will embrace the synergies between the economy and culture of Wales. But there was no mention of how this will be done, and the sector is asking how they can be engaged in this process and how they can bid to Creative Wales so that they can benefit from what you as a Government want to do.
Welsh: O ran Cymru Greadigol, bob tro dwi'n siarad am Gymru Greadigol yn y sector, mae pobl yn tynnu gwynt rhywfaint, yn aros am ryw fath o fanylion pellach. Yn ystod twf y diwydiant ffilmiau, mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi cyflwyno sawl menter i hybu'r sector. Ond, roedd rhanddeiliaid yn teimlo nad oedd ffocws i'r mentrau hyn. Dywedodd Screen Alliance Wales wrthym fod prosiectau wedi'u hariannu ar hap yn seiliedig ar broffil y cwmni, ond heb edrych ar etifeddiaeth gynaliadwy, hirdymor i Gymru. Pryd bynnag y mae'r pwyllgor wedi gofyn am fwy o ffocws, dywedwyd wrthym mai corff sydd eto i'w sefydlu, sef Cymru Greadigol, fyddai'n rhoi'r arweinyddiaeth hon. Ers iddo gael ei gyhoeddi'n gyntaf yn 2016, rydym ni'n dal i aros am fanylion am Gymru Greadigol. Dywedwyd wrthym ym mis Chwefror y byddai'r Gweinidog yn cyhoeddi manylion am ffurf, swyddogaeth, aelodau'r bwrdd a ffafriwyd a threfniadau llywodraethu Cymru Greadigol ym mis Ebrill eleni. Nid yw'r datganiad a ryddhawyd yn rhoi rhagor o wybodaeth am unrhyw un o'r materion hyn. Mae'n llawn ymadroddion sydd â bwriadau fel, 'Mae partneriaethau a chydweithio yn allweddol i unrhyw gyflawni llwyddiannus', ac y bydd Cymru Greadigol yn cofleidio synergeddau rhwng yr economi a diwylliant Cymru. Ond dyw e ddim yn datblygu'r ateb am sut bydd hynny yn digwydd, ac mae'r sector yn gofyn sut maen nhw'n gallu ymwneud a sut maen nhw'n gallu rhoi ceisiadau gerbron Cymru Greadigol, iddyn nhw allu buddio o'r hyn dŷch chi fel Llywodraeth eisiau gwneud.
English: I now call on the Deputy Minister for Culture, Sport and Tourism, Dafydd Elis-Thomas.
Welsh: Galwaf ar y Dirprwy Weinidog Diwylliant, Chwaraeon a Thwristiaeth, Dafydd Elis-Thomas.
English: Could you just explain to us when Creative Wales will therefore be operational? That's the question that's asked of me. People in the sector don't know when it will start its work. Has it started its work? If so, how will you promote that?
Welsh: Allwch chi jest esbonio i ni pryd fydd Cymru Greadigol felly yn weithredol? Dyna sydd yn dod ataf i - bod lot o bobl yn y sector ddim yn siŵr pryd fydd e'n cychwyn ei waith. A yw e wedi cychwyn y gwaith? Os felly, sut byddwch chi'n hybu hynny?
English: Can I ask the Minister: can he draw his remarks to a conclusion, please?
Welsh: A gaf fi ofyn i'r Gweinidog ddirwyn ei sylwadau i ben, os gwelwch yn dda?
English: Yes, I think it's a good place to draw my remarks to a close, by celebrating commercial success in a place where some Members insisted it could never happen.
Welsh: Gwnaf, credaf fod hynny'n lle da i ddirwyn fy sylwadau i ben, drwy ddathlu llwyddiant masnachol mewn man lle mynnodd rhai Aelodau na allai fyth ddigwydd.
English: Thank you very much, and thank you to the Assembly Members who had thought that this debate was important enough to contribute to. Certainly, it's very important to the economy here in Wales, but it's also very important to the creative industries.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, a diolch i'r Aelodau Cynulliad hynny a oedd wedi meddwl bod y ddadl yma'n ddigon pwysig i gyfrannu ati. Yn sicr, mae e'n bwysig iawn i'r economi yma yng Nghymru, ond yn sicr yn bwysig iawn i'r sector creadigol.
English: I hope that people can be engaged in what we're doing as a committee in the world of film in future, and realise that it's important that we don't just grow and develop talent from Wales here in Wales, but that we ensure that the world, globally, sees Wales as a location for filming, and sees it as somewhere that's positive to work in. The process needs to develop more swiftly to promote these opportunities for Wales to be seen as somewhere that's excellent to film in. With the beauty that we have in our landscape, why not come to Wales to film? It's something for us all to celebrate, and something for us all to be promoting when we meet people on the street, or when we meet businesses in our local areas as well. So, thank you very much to everyone.
Welsh: Gobeithio y bydd pobl yn gallu ymwneud yn fwy gyda'r hyn dŷn ni'n gwneud fel pwyllgor yn y byd ffilm, a sylweddoli ei bod yn bwysig ein bod ni nid yn unig yn tyfu talent o Gymru yma yng Nghymru, ond ein bod ni'n sicrhau bod y byd rhyngwladol yn gweld Cymru fel lle i ddod i ffilmio, ac yn ei gweld fel rhywle positif i weithio ynddi. Mae angen i brosesau symud yn glouach, dwi'n credu, er mwyn hybu hynny, a hybu'r posibiliadau fod Cymru yn gallu cael ei gweld fel rhywle gwych i ffilmio. Gyda'r prydferthwch sydd o'n cwmpas ni yn ein hardaloedd lleol, pam ddim dod i Gymru i ffilmio? Mae e'n rhywbeth i ni i gyd ddathlu, ac mae'n rhywbeth i ni i gyd fod yn lladmeryddion ar ei gyfer pan dŷn ni'n cwrdd â phobl ar y stryd, neu phan dŷn ni'n cwrdd â busnesau yn ein hardaloedd lleol hefyd. Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn i bawb.
English: We now move on to item 7 on the agenda, which is a debate on the general principles of the Senedd and Elections (Wales) Bill. I call on the Llywydd to introduce the debate.
Welsh: Symudwn ymlaen at eitem 7 ar yr agenda, sef dadl ar egwyddorion cyffredinol y Bil Senedd ac Etholiadau (Cymru). Galwaf ar y Llywydd i gyflwyno'r ddadl.
English: Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. This is a major piece of Welsh constitutional legislation, and it was given very careful and serious attention by the committee, as would be expected. The Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee scrutinised the Bill between February and June of this year. We undertook a public consultation and we heard oral evidence in formal meetings. We also sought the views of young people about votes at 16, using an online forum, Senedd Dialogue, and during a visit to Ysgol Gyfun Gymraeg Bro Edern in Cardiff, and we'd like to thank all of those who contributed to that work and to the various evidence sessions that were involved. We made 19 recommendations in our report, aimed mainly at improving the legislation and delivering it effectively with a focus on good legislative practice. Whilst we had some reservations about the approach to legislating adopted in bringing the Bill forward, we nevertheless recommended that its general principles do be agreed. So, turning to Part 2 of the Bill and the proposals to rename the National Assembly as the 'Senedd', we heard evidence making the case for the monolingual name 'Senedd' or 'Senedd Cymru' or the bilingual name of 'Senedd Cymru' and 'Welsh Parliament'. However, we deliberately did not express a view on a preferred name, as we believe that the choice of name must be a decision that is taken by the National Assembly as a whole, and what I do do is draw the Members' attention to the evidence we have heard on this, which has been set out within our report.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Mae hwn yn ddarn mawr o ddeddfwriaeth gyfansoddiadol Gymreig, a chafodd sylw gofalus a difrifol iawn gan y pwyllgor, fel y gellid disgwyl. Craffodd y Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol ar y Bil rhwng mis Chwefror a mis Mehefin eleni. Cynhaliwyd ymgynghoriad cyhoeddus a chlywsom dystiolaeth lafar mewn cyfarfodydd ffurfiol. Hefyd, gofynnwyd am farn pobl ifanc ynglŷn â phleidleisio yn 16 oed, gan ddefnyddio fforwm ar-lein Dialogue y Senedd, ac yn ystod ymweliad ag Ysgol Gyfun Gymraeg Bro Edern yng Nghaerdydd, a hoffem ddiolch i bawb a gyfrannodd at y gwaith hwnnw ac i'r rhai a gymerodd ran yn y gwahanol sesiynau tystiolaeth. Gwnaethom 19 o argymhellion yn ein hadroddiad, argymhellion a anelai'n bennaf at wella'r ddeddfwriaeth a'i chyflwyno'n effeithiol gan ganolbwyntio ar arferion deddfwriaethol da. Er bod gennym rai amheuon ynghylch y dull o ddeddfu a fabwysiadwyd ar gyfer cyflwyno'r Bil, serch hynny, fe wnaethom argymell y dylid cytuno ar ei egwyddorion cyffredinol. Felly, gan droi at Ran 2 o'r Bil a'r cynigion i ailenwi'r Cynulliad Cenedlaethol yn 'Senedd', clywsom dystiolaeth yn cyflwyno achos dros yr enw uniaith 'Senedd' neu 'Senedd Cymru' neu'r enw dwyieithog 'Senedd Cymru' a 'Welsh Parliament'. Fodd bynnag, yn fwriadol ni wnaethom fynegi barn ar enw a ffefrir, gan ein bod yn credu bod yn rhaid i'r dewis o enw fod yn benderfyniad a wneir gan y Cynulliad Cenedlaethol yn ei gyfanrwydd, a'r hyn a wnaf yw tynnu sylw'r Aelodau at y dystiolaeth a glywsom am hyn, sydd wedi'i nodi yn ein hadroddiad.
English: My indulgence is moving.
Welsh: Mae pall ar fy ngoddefgarwch.
English: I know I'm out of time, but can I just record my gratitude, as a former Chair of CLAC, that the recommendations on disqualification will now take forward quite fully the work of that committee in the fourth Assembly? I'm grateful to see that.
Welsh: Rwy'n gwybod bod fy amser ar ben, ond a gaf fi gofnodi fy niolch, fel cyn Gadeirydd y Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol, y bydd yr argymhellion ar anghymhwyso yn mynd ati'n eithaf llawn yn awr i ddatblygu gwaith y pwyllgor yn y pedwerydd Cynulliad? Rwy'n falch o weld hynny.
English: I'd like to know the Brexit Party's position - . We know the Brexit Party's position on Europe but not much else. Is it the Brexit Party's position now to rule out ever taking up the UKIP policy of abolishing the Assembly? So, you're absolutely not in favour of ever abolishing the Assembly.
Welsh: Hoffwn wybod beth yw safbwynt plaid Brexit - . Gwyddom beth yw safbwynt plaid Brexit ar Ewrop ond fawr o ddim arall. Ai safbwynt plaid Brexit yn awr yw diystyru mabwysiadu polisi UKIP o ddiddymu'r Cynulliad? Felly, nid ydych yn llwyr o blaid diddymu'r Cynulliad.
English: Will the Member take a point?
Welsh: A wnaiff yr Aelod gymryd pwynt?
English: Yes, go on.
Welsh: Iawn, o'r gorau.
English: Well, English, for a legislature, uses the French loanword 'parliament', and in Welsh we use the Latin loanword 'senedd'.
Welsh: Wel, mae'r Saesneg am ddeddfwrfa yn defnyddio'r gair benthyg 'parliament' o'r Ffrangeg, ac yn y Gymraeg, rydym yn defnyddio gair benthyg o'r Lladin, 'senedd'.
English: Well, thank you, but I don't really think that helps because the point I'm trying to make is that 'Senedd', although it's a perfectly acceptable word, it's not accessible for a lot of people. I mean, how many people out there actually instantly understand what 'Member of the Senedd' means? If you've been in connection with the Assembly for some time, yes, you might - you'll be familiar with the word, but - . This is about understandability and accessibility. So, however, having said all that, I do actually support the general principles of the Bill, and with that, I'll finish.
Welsh: Wel, diolch, ond nid wyf yn credu bod hynny'n helpu oherwydd y pwynt rwy'n ceisio ei wneud yw bod 'Senedd', er ei fod yn air hollol dderbyniol, nid yw'n hygyrch i lawer o bobl. Hynny yw, faint o bobl allan yno mewn gwirionedd sy'n deall ar unwaith beth y mae 'Member of the Senedd' yn ei olygu? Os ydych chi wedi bod mewn cysylltiad â'r Cynulliad ers peth amser, iawn, fe allech chi - fe fyddwch yn gyfarwydd â'r gair, ond - . Mae hyn yn ymwneud â bod yn ddealladwy ac yn hygyrch. Felly, fodd bynnag, wedi dweud hynny i gyd, rwy'n cefnogi egwyddorion cyffredinol y Bil mewn gwirionedd, a chyda hynny, fe ddof i ben.
English: I just want to speak very briefly about this Bill. I rise with a heavy heart to say that I'll be voting against the general principles today, not because I don't agree with most of what's in this Bill, as I've had many conversations with the Llywydd in the past, but because of this principle of extending the franchise to younger voters aged 16 and 17. And it's not because - [ Interruption.] Well, that's not the case, and it's quite an assumption for you to draw on. I'm happy to take an intervention if you want to make one. But we know that having the opportunity to vote is one of the most important privileges in our society and the vote has provided men and women with real power, giving them the ability to topple governments, to turf out local councillors and politicians, to establish new parliaments, and decide our fortunes, of course, with regard to EU membership. And the way it's always worked in our democracy is that adults have the right to vote and children don't, and as has already been said, there's been a common accepted age of responsibility for most things, and that has been at the age of 18. Of course, when I was younger, even when I was 18, I wasn't able to vote - stand for elections, rather - [ Interruption.] - because you have to be 21 to be able to stand for election, even though I was able to vote at 18. [ Interruption.] I'll happily take an intervention.
Welsh: Hoffwn siarad yn fyr iawn am y Bil hwn. Rwy'n codi gyda chalon drom i ddweud y byddaf yn pleidleisio yn erbyn yr egwyddorion cyffredinol heddiw, nid oherwydd nad wyf yn cytuno â'r rhan fwyaf o'r hyn sydd yn y Bil hwn, gan fy mod wedi cael llawer o sgyrsiau gyda'r Llywydd yn y gorffennol, ond oherwydd yr egwyddor hon o ymestyn yr etholfraint i bleidleiswyr iau 16 a 17 oed. Ac nid oherwydd - [ Torri ar draws.] Wel, nid yw hynny'n wir, ac mae'n dipyn o honiad i chi ei wneud. Rwy'n hapus i dderbyn ymyriad os ydych am wneud un. Ond rydym yn gwybod bod cael cyfle i bleidleisio yn un o'r breintiau pwysicaf yn ein cymdeithas ac mae'r bleidlais wedi rhoi grym go iawn i ddynion a menywod, gan roi'r gallu iddynt gael gwared ar lywodraethau, i luchio cynghorwyr lleol a gwleidyddion allan, i sefydlu seneddau newydd, a phenderfynu ar ein tynged, wrth gwrs, mewn perthynas â'n haelodaeth o'r UE. A'r ffordd y mae bob amser wedi gweithio yn ein democratiaeth yw bod gan oedolion hawl i bleidleisio ac nad oes gan blant hawl i wneud hynny, ac fel y dywedwyd eisoes, mae oedran cyfrifoldeb cyffredin wedi'i dderbyn ar gyfer y rhan fwyaf o bethau, sef 18 oed. Wrth gwrs, pan oeddwn i'n iau, hyd yn oed pan oeddwn i'n 18, ni chawn bleidleisio - sefyll etholiadau, yn hytrach - [ T orri ar draws.] - oherwydd mae'n rhaid ichi fod yn 21 oed i allu sefyll etholiad, er fy mod yn cael pleidleisio'n 18. [ Torri ar draws.] Rwy'n fodlon derbyn ymyriad.
English: I dare him to make that speech in front of the Youth Parliament.
Welsh: Rwy'n ei herio i wneud yr araith honno gerbron y Senedd Ieuenctid.
English: You know what I find fascinating? I hear this challenge on a regular basis. When I go to schools and people ask me what my views are on this, and I explain to them - [ Interruption. ] - and I explain to them that my principal point is this: it's not that I'm necessarily against 16 and 17-year-olds having the vote, it's that I'm for a common age of responsibility in this country, and that's what we don't have at the moment, because we have different ages of responsibilities - [ Interruption.] - for all sorts of different things - . I'll happily take an intervention.
Welsh: A wyddoch chi beth sy'n ddiddorol i mi? Clywaf yr her hon yn rheolaidd. Pan af i ysgolion ac mae pobl yn gofyn i mi beth yw fy marn ar hyn, ac rwy'n egluro wrthynt - [ T orri ar draws. ] - ac rwy'n egluro wrthynt mai fy mhrif bwynt yw hwn: nid fy mod o reidrwydd yn gwrthwynebu i bobl 16 a 17 oed gael y bleidlais, ond fy mod o blaid cael oedran cyfrifoldeb cyffredin yn y wlad hon, ac nid oes gennym hynny ar hyn o bryd, oherwydd mae gennym wahanol oedrannau cyfrifoldeb - [ T orri ar draws.] - ar gyfer pob math o wahanol bethau - . Rwy'n fodlon derbyn ymyriad.
English: Would you therefore be opposed to anybody under the age of 18 being allowed to join the British military?
Welsh: A fyddech chi felly'n gwrthwynebu caniatáu i unrhyw un o dan 18 oed i ymuno â'r lluoedd arfog ym Mhrydain?
English: Can I now call on the Llywydd to reply to the debate? Llywydd.
Welsh: A gaf fi alw ar y Llywydd yn awr i ymateb i'r ddadl? Lywydd.
English: Of course, yes.
Welsh: Ie, ie. Wrth gwrs, ie.