English: I last spoke with Steffan on his last visit to the Assembly before Christmas, when I remember speaking to him outside the Chamber here in a break in debate. It was clear at that point how ill he was. I told him that we were - all of us, every one of us in the Chamber - rooting for him. He thanked me for that and he said it was the work as an Assembly Member that was keeping him going, that was inspiring him, and the affection, the love, that he felt from all of us Assembly Members was making that difference to him. As has been said by his own party, who he loved dearly, and other Members in this Chamber, he was a boy of Gwent. He used to call me 'the boy of Monmouthshire'. I did point out that I was from Cwmbran originally and I could see his little eyes light up as he could think of all sorts of new insults or expressions that he could use in debate across the Chamber. [ Laughter. ] Sadly, those debates are not to be. But the legacy he leaves, and the feeling that he inspired all of us to feel, from whatever part of Wales that was, is something that will live with me forever. Mike Hedges mentioned the Finance Committee. I had the privilege of sitting next to Steffan - it seems for a very long time, but, of course, it was only a couple of years since 2016 that we were on that committee together. And you're right, Mike, he used to love talking about the border, or, really, attacking people who wanted to talk about the border, and he would point out there were borders all across the world that didn't cause any problems at all in terms of trade and in terms of countries being separate. He was right there. Also, whenever there were discussions about Brexit or austerity, I'd hear this little voice in my ear, which was his voice, and he'd be prodding me, and he'd say, 'That's your lot, again, that is, isn't it? That's your lot in Westminster. How can you live with yourself?' Eventually, I just used to move the chair slightly to the right so he couldn't quite reach any more. But it was a privilege to know Steffan since he got elected in 2016. I think it is very easy to say that people leave a legacy, but I think, as the former First Minister, Carwyn Jones, said earlier, his legacy is an immense one. I think, in his own way, he has had an effect on everyone in Wales, and, whether you agreed in the nationalist policy, or whatever party political view you aspire from, I think that he sold the message of his party so well that he drew everyone else in Wales a little nearer to his dreams, and I think, whatever happens down the road for this great country of ours that he was so proud of, he brought his dream a little closer to everyone's reality.
Welsh: Siaradais ddiwethaf â Steffan yn ystod ei ymweliad olaf â'r Cynulliad cyn y Nadolig, pryd yr wyf yn cofio sgwrsio ag ef y tu allan i'r Siambr hon mewn toriad yn y ddadl. Roedd yn amlwg y pryd hwnnw pa mor sâl yr ydoedd. Dywedais i wrtho ein bod ni i gyd - pob un ohonon ni yn y Siambr - yn ei gefnogi. Diolchodd i mi am hynny a dweud mai ei waith fel Aelod Cynulliad a oedd yn ei gynnal, a oedd yn ei ysbrydoli, ac roedd yr anwyldeb, y cariad, yr oedd e'n ei deimlo gan bob un ohonom ni Aelodau'r Cynulliad yn gwneud y gwahaniaeth hwnnw iddo. Fel y mae ei blaid ei hun, yr oedd ef yn meddwl y byd ohoni, ac Aelodau eraill yn y Siambr hon wedi ei ddweud, bachgen Gwent oedd ef. Roedd e'n arfer fy ngalw i yn 'bachgen Mynwy'. Fe wnes i dynnu sylw at y ffaith mai o Gwmbrân oeddwn i'n dod yn wreiddiol a gwelais ei lygaid bach yn goleuo wrth feddwl am bob math o bethau sarhaus neu ymadroddion newydd y byddai'n gallu eu defnyddio mewn dadleuon ar draws y Siambr. [ Chwerthin. ] Yn anffodus, ni fydd y dadleuon hynny'n digwydd. Ond bydd ei etifeddiaeth, a'r teimladau y gwnaeth ef annog pob un ohonom ni i'w teimlo, o ba ran bynnag o Gymru fyddai hynny, yn rhywbeth a fydd yn aros gyda fi am byth. Soniodd Mike Hedges am y Pwyllgor Cyllid. Ces i'r fraint o eistedd wrth ochr Steffan - sydd i'w weld yn amser hir iawn, ond, wrth gwrs, dim ond cwpl o flynyddoedd, ers 2016, yr oeddem ni ar y pwyllgor hwnnw gyda'n gilydd. Ac rydych chi'n iawn, Mike, roedd ef wrth ei fodd yn sôn am y ffin, neu, mewn gwirionedd, ymosod ar bobl a oedd yn dymuno siarad am y ffin, a byddai'n tynnu sylw at y ffaith fod yna ffiniau ledled y byd nad ydyn nhw'n achosi unrhyw broblemau o gwbl o ran masnachu ac o ran gwledydd yn bodoli ar wahân. Roedd e'n iawn yn hynny o beth. Hefyd, pryd bynnag y byddai trafodaethau ynghylch Brexit neu gyni, byddwn i'n clywed y llais bach hwn yn fy nghlust, ei lais ef ydoedd, a byddai ef yn fy mhrocio i, a byddai'n dweud, 'Dy griw di yw hyn eto, yntê? Dyna dy griw di yn San Steffan. Sut galli di fyw 'da dy hunan?' Yn y pen draw, byddwn i'n symud y gadair ychydig i'r dde fel nad oedd yn bosibl iddo gyrraedd mwyach. Ond roedd yn fraint adnabod Steffan ers iddo gael ei ethol yn 2016. Rwy'n credu ei bod yn hawdd iawn dweud bod pobl yn gadael etifeddiaeth, ond, yn fy marn i, fel y dywedodd y cyn Brif Weinidog, Carwyn Jones gynnau, mae ei etifeddiaeth ef yn un enfawr. Rwy'n credu, yn ei ffordd ei hun, ei fod wedi effeithio ar bawb yng Nghymru, a pha un a ydych chi'n cytuno â'r polisi cenedlaetholaidd ai peidio, neu o ba blaid wleidyddol bynnag yr ydych chi wedi dod, rwy'n credu iddo fe werthu neges ei blaid mor dda fel ei fod wedi denu pawb arall yng Nghymru ychydig yn nes at ei freuddwyd, ac rwy'n credu, beth bynnag fydd yn digwydd yn y dyfodol i'n gwlad odidog yr oedd ef mor falch ohoni, daeth ef â'i freuddwyd ychydig yn nes at realiti pawb.