English: I'm very pleased to follow my colleague Darren Millar, and I largely agree with everything he says on this occasion, as indeed with Joel James, because I think this is a really important issue and it's excellent that this petition has enabled us to discuss it. I agree that there are some really complicated issues here, but, as with Darren Millar and the chapel in Loughor, I've got a particular pub in my constituency, the Roath Park Hotel, which is the last Victorian pub in City Road - the last of eight. Unfortunately, the planning system isn't sufficiently in line with the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015 to enable local authorities to refuse permission to demolish in order to create a hideous modern building in its place. It has happened so often around Cardiff that we have lost the vernacular of our historic architecture, and modern buildings, unfortunately, in general, are not nearly as elegant or well built. That doesn't mean to say that we are philistines - that we don't want change - but I just think this building in particular is so important because it's only one of five left of 95 examples of a girls' school that was purpose built for this reason. I've been trying to find out a bit more about Robert Williams, the architect who built it. Because I learnt from the petition that the buildings he went on to build in London and in Egypt have been preserved and yet, here in Wales, we are considering demolishing this fine example of his work. Given that he was a pioneer of building conservation and of social housing, and was setting up the Welsh school of architecture, and the need to use the Welsh language in building the architects of the future, this is a really rich history that we are in danger of losing. The well-being of future generations Act simply doesn't capture the importance of all of these relevant facts, because we're in danger of simply having a system that's based on the cost of everything and the value of nothing. And so, I just think that we really have to change things. The planning decisions, for example, don't have to pay any regard to the carbon emissions involved in demolishing this perfectly usable building that could easily be converted into some extremely fine and much-needed social housing, because, after all, this is a building that had accommodation involved from day one for girls who couldn't travel that far to Cowbridge on a daily basis. So, I think there are huge reasons why we need to revisit this as a matter of urgency, because carbon emissions are a very significant issue in line with the well-being of future generations Act, but it also touches on the cultural importance of this building, of the language of involvement of Robert Williams in promoting the Welsh language in architecture. And I just think that the system is absolutely not right, not fit for purpose at the moment, otherwise we're going to have more disasters like this.
Welsh: Rwy'n falch iawn o ddilyn fy nghyd-Aelod, Darren Millar, ac rwy'n cytuno i raddau helaeth â phopeth a ddywed y tro hwn, fel yn wir gyda Joel James, oherwydd credaf fod hwn yn fater pwysig iawn ac mae'n wych fod y ddeiseb hon wedi ein galluogi i'w drafod. Rwy'n cytuno bod rhai materion cymhleth iawn yma, ond fel gyda Darren Millar a'r capel yng Nghasllwchwr, mae gennyf dafarn benodol yn fy etholaeth i, y Roath Park Hotel, sef y dafarn Fictoraidd olaf ar Heol y Ddinas - yr olaf o wyth. Yn anffodus, nid yw'r system gynllunio yn cyd-fynd yn ddigonol â Deddf Llesiant Cenedlaethau'r Dyfodol (Cymru) 2015 i alluogi awdurdodau lleol i wrthod caniatâd i ddymchwel er mwyn creu adeilad modern hyll yn ei le. Mae wedi digwydd mor aml o amgylch Caerdydd, ein bod wedi colli ein pensaernïaeth hanesyddol gynhenid, ac at ei gilydd nid yw adeiladau modern, yn anffodus, hanner mor gain nac wedi'u hadeiladu cystal. Nid yw hynny'n golygu ein bod yn philistiaid - nad ydym am weld newid - ond credaf fod yr adeilad hwn yn arbennig mor bwysig am ei fod yn un o ddim ond pump sy'n weddill o 95 enghraifft o ysgol i ferched a adeiladwyd yn bwrpasol at y diben hwnnw. Rwyf wedi bod yn ceisio darganfod ychydig mwy am Robert Williams, y pensaer a'i hadeiladodd. Oherwydd dysgais o'r ddeiseb fod yr adeiladau yr aeth rhagddo i'w hadeiladu yn Llundain ac yn yr Aifft wedi'u cadw ac eto, yma yng Nghymru, rydym yn ystyried dymchwel yr enghraifft wych hon o'i waith. O ystyried ei fod yn arloeswr ym maes cadwraeth adeiladau a thai cymdeithasol, a'i fod wedi sefydlu ysgol bensaernïaeth Cymru, a'r angen i ddefnyddio'r Gymraeg wrth ddatblygu penseiri'r dyfodol, mae hwn yn hanes cyfoethog iawn yr ydym mewn perygl o'i golli. Nid yw Deddf llesiant cenedlaethau'r dyfodol yn cyfleu pwysigrwydd yr holl ffeithiau perthnasol hyn, oherwydd rydym mewn perygl o gael system sy'n seiliedig ar gost popeth a gwerth dim. Ac felly, rwy'n credu bod yn rhaid inni newid pethau o ddifrif. Nid oes rhaid i'r penderfyniadau cynllunio, er enghraifft, roi unrhyw ystyriaeth i'r allyriadau carbon sydd ynghlwm wrth y broses o ddymchwel yr adeilad cwbl ddefnyddiadwy hwn y gellid yn hawdd ei droi'n dai cymdeithasol eithriadol o dda a mawr eu hangen, oherwydd, wedi'r cyfan, dyma adeilad a oedd yn cynnig llety o'r diwrnod cyntaf i ferched na allent deithio mor bell â'r Bont-faen yn ddyddiol. Felly, credaf fod rhesymau enfawr pam y mae angen inni ailedrych ar hyn fel mater o frys, oherwydd mae allyriadau carbon yn broblem sylweddol iawn yn unol â Deddf llesiant cenedlaethau'r dyfodol, ond mae hefyd yn cyffwrdd ar bwysigrwydd diwylliannol yr adeilad hwn, ar gyfraniad Robert Williams i hyrwyddo'r Gymraeg mewn pensaernïaeth. A chredaf nad yw'r system yn iawn o gwbl, nad yw'n addas i'r diben ar hyn o bryd, ac fel arall byddwn yn cael mwy o drychinebau fel hyn.