English: Thank you, Llywydd. I'm pleased to open this debate and I'm particularly pleased that the debate is supported by Members of all opposition parties at least, here, and is an attempt, I hope, to put before the Senedd a picture of what is happening today on the ground in our rural communities - the threat to the livelihoods of many families and farms and to community life that this disease poses. We look forward to the statement in around three weeks' time, I believe, from the Government on their TB eradication plan, and I hope that this debate will assist the Government by giving a broad-ranging and in-depth picture of the problems that farmers are currently facing. May I just say something about the wording of the motion in case people are wondering why it is worded in the way that it is? It is based on the advice given to the Government by its own consultative group on animal health, including farm stock, the report on which was published on 28 July at the time of the Royal Welsh Show. That paper specifically requested that there should be a TB eradication programme that would be a combination of different measures aimed at all sources of TB - those within the herd and with the wildlife reserve - which would allow us to eradicate bovine TB.The report also asked for the introduction of some kind of programme to deal with bovine TB that included a different assessment in those areas where incidents were low, and to look at rules that were proportionate to the status of the disease in the various areas of Wales. So, that's the purpose of the debate, and I do very much hope that the whole Assembly will be able to unite around a motion that is so important to our farmers. There's no doubt about the impact that bovine TB has on dairy farms and on beef producers at the moment, not just in financial terms, but also in emotional terms, because entire families, farm workers and, quite, often generations invest their time in the development of these herds. Although the numbers of herds affected by TB has reduced recently - and that's positive in terms of the number of herds - I do think it's important that we look at the percentage. Each one of us who has been looking at the situation in relation to dairy farms know that a number of farms have gone out of business over the last decade. I think it's important to place on record that, this year, 56 per cent of all dairy herds in Wales have been affected by some sort of restrictions emerging from an incidence of this disease - that's 56 per cent. Ten years ago, that figure stood at 38 per cent. So, yes, there's a reduction in the number, but there's an increase in the percentage. There's a particular increase, of course, in those areas that are intensive action areas against TB: north Pembrokeshire, parts of Carmarthenshire, and there's been a shocking increase in the Vale of Clwyd recently, which is quite a blow to those who think that the disease is under some sort of control in Wales. There is a significant cost to the taxpayer because compensation is paid to farmers, and rightly so. That cost is somewhere in the region of £100 million across the whole of Britain, and a significant proportion of that - tens of millions of pounds - is relevant to Wales. There is one other aspect that I would like to mention at the very beginning of this debate, so that Members are cognisant of it, and that is, of course, now that we have now decided to leave the European Union, there is a question about the status in trade terms between Wales, the rest of the UK, and what remains of the European Union. The TB eradication programme is a Welsh Government programme. It's a Welsh programme, but, importantly, it's also a European Commission programme. It's been approved by the European Commission, and it's been funded, to a great extent, by the European Commission. Because we have a programme in place that has been approved by the Commission, there is no way in which other nations in the European Union can question produce from Wales. Welsh produce is accepted everywhere in the single market, and there can be no objections to that. But, once we have exited the single market, as has been proposed by the Government at present, then questions could be raised about Wales's status. We do have an enhanced level of TB in our cattle herd and, therefore, questions could be asked as to whether Welsh dairy and beef produce should be received into nations such as France or any other part of the single market. So, there are no guarantees that the rest of the European Union will accept that. That was reinforced just this morning by Peter Midmore from Aberystwyth University, who gave evidence to the Climate Change, Environment and Rural Affairs Committee. Professor Midmore was asked whether there was a risk of this happening, and he said quite clearly that there was a real risk that this would happen, because, under the World Trade Organization rules, exports can be prevented if there is a problem relating to a certain disease in a particular nation.
Welsh: Diolch, Lywydd. Mae dda gen i agor y ddadl yma. Rwy'n arbennig o falch bod y ddadl yn un sydd yn cynnwys nifer o bob plaid - gwrthblaid, beth bynnag - yma, ac yn ymgais, rwy'n gobeithio, i roi gerbron y Senedd ddarlun o'r hyn sydd yn digwydd nawr, heddiw, ar lawr gwlad yn ein cymunedau gwledig ni a'r bygythiad i fywyd teuluol, i fywyd fferm ac i fywyd cymunedol y mae'r clefyd yma'n ei gynrychioli. Rydym ni'n edrych ymlaen at y datganiad mewn rhyw dair wythnos, rwy'n credu, gan y Llywodraeth ynglŷn â'u cynllun nhw ar gyfer difa'r diciáu mewn gwartheg. Rwy'n gobeithio y bydd y ddadl yma yn rhoi cymorth i'r Llywodraeth drwy roi darlun eang a dwfn iddyn nhw o'r problemau y mae amaethwyr yn eu hwynebu ar hyn o bryd. A gaf i jest ddweud gair am eiriad y cynnig rhag ofn bod pobl yn gofyn pam mae'r cynnig wedi ei eirio fel y mae? Mae wedi ei seilio ar y cyngor a gafodd y Llywodraeth gan ei grŵp ymgynghorol hithau ynglŷn â lles anifeiliaid, gan gynnwys lles anifeiliaid fferm, a gyhoeddodd ei adroddiad ar 28 Gorffennaf, adeg y sioe fawr. Yn y papur hwnnw, fe ofynnwyd yn benodol am gynllun i ddifa TB a fyddai'n gyfuniad o wahanol fesurau wedi eu hanelu at bob ffynhonnell - ffynonellau yn y buchesi a ffynonellau bywyd gwyllt - ac a fyddai'n caniatáu i ni ddifa TB buchod. Ar yr un pryd, roedd yr adroddiad yn gofyn am gyflwyno rhyw fath o raglen ar y dicáu mewn gwartheg a oedd yn cynnwys asesiad gwahanol yn yr ardaloedd yna lle oedd y digwyddiadau yn isel, ac i edrych ar reolau ar gyfer TB a oedd yn gymesur â statws y clefyd yn y gwahanol ardaloedd yng Nghymru. Felly, dyna bwrpas y ddadl, ac rwy'n gobeithio y bydd modd i'r Cynulliad cyfan uno o gwmpas dadl sydd mor bwysig i'n hamaethwyr ni. Does dim dwywaith am yr effaith y mae TB yn ei chael ar ffermydd godro a ffermydd cig eidion ar hyn o bryd, nid jest yn gyllidol ac yn ariannol, ond yn emosiynol hefyd, achos mae cymaint o fuddsoddiad o ran amser teuluoedd cyfan, gweithwyr a chenedlaethau, weithiau, yn y buchesi. Er bod nifer y buchesi sydd wedi'u heffeithio gan TB wedi gostwng yn ddiweddar - a da o beth yw hynny, o ran nifer - rwy'n credu ei bod hi'n bwysig edrych ar y ganran. Mae pob un ohonom ni sydd wedi bod yn edrych ar y sefyllfa gyda ffermydd godro yn gwybod yn iawn fod nifer o ffermydd wedi mynd allan o fusnes dros y degawd diwethaf. Mae'n bwysig rhoi ar gofnod bod 56 y cant o'r holl fuchesi godro yng Nghymru eleni wedi cael eu heffeithio gan ryw fath o gyfyngiadau yn deillio o ddigwyddiad o'r clefyd hwn - 56 y cant. Ddeng mlynedd yn ôl, 38 y cant o'r holl fuchesi a gafodd eu heffeithio. Felly, ie, mae gostyngiad yn y nifer, ond mae yna gynnydd yn y ganran. Mae cynnydd arbennig, wrth gwrs, yn yr ardaloedd hynny sydd i fod yn ganolbwynt ar gyfer gweithredu dwys yn erbyn y clefyd yma: gogledd sir Benfro, rhannau o sir Gâr, a chynnydd syfrdanol yn nyffryn Clwyd yn ddiweddar, sydd yn dipyn o ergyd i'r rhai sy'n meddwl bod y clefyd o dan ryw fath o reolaeth yng Nghymru. Mae yna gost sylweddol iawn i'r trethdalwr, achos fe delir - ac fe ddylid eu talu, wrth gwrs - y ffermwyr ar gyfer eu colled o dda, ac mae'r gost honno tua £100 miliwn y flwyddyn dros Brydain gyfan. Mae canran sylweddol o hynny - degau o filiynau - yn deillio o Gymru. Mae yna un agwedd arall yr hoffwn ei hagor reit ar ddechrau'r ddadl hon, i'r Aelodau fod yn hysbys yn ei chylch, sef, nawr ein bod wedi penderfynu gadael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd, mae yna gwestiwn ynglŷn â'r statws marchnata rhwng Cymru a gweddill Prydain a gweddill yr hyn sy'n weddill o'r Undeb Ewropeaidd. Mae'r cynllun difa TB yn gynllun Llywodraeth Cymru - mae'n gynllun Cymru - ond y mae hefyd, yn bwysig iawn, yn gynllun y Comisiwn Ewropeaidd; mae wedi'i gymeradwyo gan y Comisiwn Ewropeaidd, mae wedi'i dalu amdano, yn helaeth iawn, gan y Comisiwn Ewropeaidd. Oherwydd bod gennym ni gynllun yn ei le sydd wedi'i gymeradwyo gan y Comisiwn, nid oes unrhyw ffordd i wledydd eraill yn yr Undeb Ewropeaidd gwestiynu cynnyrch o Gymru. Mae cynnyrch o Gymru yn cael ei dderbyn ym mhob man yn y farchnad sengl, ac nid oes modd gwrthwynebu hynny. Ond, unwaith yr ydym ni wedi gadael y farchnad sengl, fel sy'n cael ei gynnig gan y Llywodraeth ar hyn o bryd, mae modd cwestiynu Cymru wedyn. Mae gennym lefel uwch o TB yn ein gwartheg ni, ac mae modd cwestiynu, felly, a ddylid derbyn cynnyrch llaeth a chynnyrch biff o Gymru i wledydd fel Ffrainc, neu unrhyw ran arall o'r farchnad sengl. Nid oes sicrwydd y bydd gweddill yr Undeb Ewropeaidd yn awr yn derbyn hynny, ac fe atgyfnerthwyd hynny ddim ond y bore yma gan Peter Midmore. Fe ddaeth Peter Midmore o Brifysgol Aberystwyth i roi tystiolaeth i'r Pwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, Amgylchedd a Materion Gwledig, a gofynnwyd i'r Athro Midmore a oedd yna risg o hyn yn digwydd, a dywedodd e, yn blwmp ac yn blaen, 'Real risk' - risg go iawn y bydd hyn yn digwydd, achos mae modd caniatáu o dan reolau'r WTO, atal allforion os oes yna broblem clefyd mewn gwlad neilltuol.