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English: Do you accept that the will of the people as conveyed in the 2011 referendum on powers should also be respected?
Welsh: Ydych chi'n derbyn y dylid parchu ewyllys y bobl hefyd fel y mynegwyd hynny yn refferendwm 2011 ar bwerau?
English: Thank you very much for taking an intervention. If the Welsh Government was so concerned about this lack of action on the part of the UK Government, why didn't they introduce this sooner?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn ichi am dderbyn ymyriad. Os oedd Llywodraeth Cymru yn pryderu cymaint am y diffyg gweithredu ar ran Llywodraeth y DU, pam na wnaethon nhw gyflwyno hyn ynghynt?
English: As the person chairing discussions between the UK Government and the devolved Governments on the EU withdrawal Bill, Cabinet Minister David Lidington MP stated, at Airbus Broughton in Flintshire last week, we must protect the UK internal market whilst respecting devolution. As I noted last week, he also said that eight out of 10 goods lorries leaving Wales go to the rest of the UK, highlighting the importance of the UK common market for Wales, as well as the rest of the UK. Mr Lidington, in Broughton, added that 'we have to ensure, as we are determined to do, that Brexit means more powers going to the devolved governments and not fewerSo our proposal is to amend the Bill before Parliament to make clear that while frameworks are being agreed, the presumption would now be that powers returning from the EU should sit at a devolved level. Westminster would only be involved where, to protect the UK common market or to meet our international obligations, we needed a pause - I stress pause - to give the governments time to design and put in place a UK-wide framework.' Governments - in plural. Responding to me in the - [ Interruption.] Sorry?
Welsh: Yn rhinwedd ei swyddogaeth yn cadeirio trafodaethau rhwng Llywodraeth y DU a'r Llywodraethau datganoledig ar Fil ymadael yr UE, dywedodd Gweinidog y Cabinet, yr Aelod Seneddol David Lidington, yn Airbus ym Mrychdyn, sir y Fflint yr wythnos diwethaf, fod yn rhaid inni warchod marchnad fewnol yn y DU gan barchu datganoli. Fel y dywedais yr wythnos diwethaf, dywedodd hefyd fod wyth o bob 10 lori nwyddau sy'n gadael Cymru yn mynd i weddill y DU, gan bwysleisio pwysigrwydd marchnad gyffredin y DU i Gymru, yn ogystal â gweddill y DU. Ychwanegodd Mr Lidington, ym Mrychdyn, fod rhaid inni sicrhau, fel yr ydym ni'n benderfynol o wneud, fod Brexit yn golygu mwy o bwerau i'r llywodraethau datganoledig ac nid llai Felly ein cynnig ni yw diwygio'r Bil gerbron y Senedd i'w gwneud hi'n glir tra cytunir ar fframweithiau, y rhagdybiaeth bellach fyddai y dylai pwerau sy'n dychwelyd o'r UE fynd i'r llywodraethau datganoledig. Byddai gan San Steffan ran yn hyn dim ond pan fyddai, er mwyn amddiffyn y farchnad gyffredin yn y DU neu gyflawni ein rhwymedigaethau rhyngwladol, angen saib arnom - rwy'n pwysleisio saib - i roi amser i'r llywodraethau gynllunio a gweithredu fframwaith ar gyfer y DU gyfan. Lywodraethau - yn y lluosog. Wrth ymateb i mi yn y - [ Torri ar draws.] Mae'n ddrwg gen i?
English: I'm grateful. Just on that very point, he's talked about a pause, a need to look at this new creature called a UK common market, but, more importantly, who decides if that pause is needed and who decides whether we need to retain powers at Westminster? Is it just Westminster, which I think he's suggesting, or is it the four countries together agreeing that? If it's the four countries, I'm with him, but I think he's suggesting Westminster.
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar. Ynglŷn â'r union sylw hwnnw, mae wedi sôn am saib, am yr angen i edrych ar y creadur newydd hwn sy'n cael ei alw yn farchnad gyffredin y DU, ond, yn bwysicach fyth, pwy sy'n penderfynu a oes angen y saib hwnnw a phwy sy'n penderfynu a oes angen inni gadw'r pwerau yn San Steffan? Ai dim ond San Steffan, fel rwy'n tybio ei fod yn awgrymu, neu ai'r pedair gwlad yn cytuno ar hynny gyda'i gilydd? Os yw'n golygu y pedair gwlad, rwy'n cytuno ag ef, ond rwy'n credu ei fod yn awgrymu San Steffan.
English: I assume you've given way. [ Laughter. ]
Welsh: Rwy'n tybio eich bod wedi ildio. [ Chwerthin. ]
English: I certainly do.
Welsh: Do, yn sicr.
English: I apologise. In our view, it's simply not plausible for a UK EU withdrawal Bill to operate if it doesn't get the express consent of this place and the Scottish Parliament. That's the reality of the political situation, and that's what we should rely on.
Welsh: Mae'n ddrwg gennyf. Yn ein barn ni, nid yw'n gredadwy o gwbl y gellid gweithredu Bil ymadael yr UE y DU os nad yw'n cael cydsyniad pendant y lle hwn a Senedd yr Alban. Dyna realiti'r sefyllfa wleidyddol, a dyna'r hyn y dylem ni ddibynnu arno.
English: The proposal is to agree the motion under item 9. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] I will defer voting on this item until voting time. As we have not disposed of the vote under item 9, I will defer the vote under item 10 until voting time.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig o dan eitem 9? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Gohiriaf y bleidlais ar yr eitem yma tan y cyfnod pleidleisio. Gan nad ydym wedi gwaredu'r bleidlais o dan eitem 9, gohiriaf y bleidlais o dan eitem 10 tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: And unless three Members wish for the bell to be rung, I will move immediately to voting time.
Welsh: Ac oni bai fod tri Aelod yn dymuno imi ganu'r gloch, rwy'n symud yn syth i'r pleidleisio.
English: The first vote is on the debate on the second supplementary budget 2017-18. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Julie James. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 29, 23 abstentions, none against, and therefore, the motion is agreed.
Welsh: Mae'r bleidlais gyntaf ar y ddadl ar yr ail gyllideb atodol 2017-18. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Julie James. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 29, 23 yn ymatal, neb yn erbyn, ac felly, derbyniwyd y cynnig.
English: The next vote is the motion under Standing Order 26.95 on the Bill to be known as the Law Derived from the European Union (Wales) Bill, and that that should be treated as an emergency Bill. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Julie James. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 44, no abstentions, 10 against, and therefore, the motion is agreed.
Welsh: Y bleidlais nesaf yw'r cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 26.95 am y Bil a elwir yn Fil Cyfraith sy'n Deillio o'r Undeb Ewropeaidd (Cymru), a bod hynny'n cael ei drin fel Bil brys. Rwy'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Julie James. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 44, neb yn ymatal, 10 yn erbyn, ac felly derbyniwyd y cynnig.
English: The next vote is to agree the timetable for the Bill to be known as the Law Derived from the European Union (Wales) Bill, and I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Julie James. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 43, no abstentions, 11 against. The motion is therefore agreed.
Welsh: Y bleidlais nesaf yw i gytuno'r amserlen ar gyfer y Bil a elwir yn Fil Cyfraith sy'n Deillio o'r Undeb Ewropeaidd (Cymru), ac rydw i'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Julie James. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 43, neb yn ymatal, 11 yn erbyn. Derbyniwyd y cynnig.
English: And that brings today's proceedings to a close.
Welsh: A dyna ddod â'n trafodion am y dydd i ben.
English: Welcome, everyone.
Welsh: Croeso, pawb.
English: Good morning, and welcome to the meeting of the Finance Committee. Welcome to you all. I just remind Members to put any electronic devices on silent and, of course, interpretation is on channel 1 and amplification on channel 0. I've received apologies from Steffan Lewis. Also, are there any declarations of interest in the issues at hand? Everyone is happy.
Welsh: Bore da, felly, a chroeso i gyfarfod y Pwyllgor Cyllid. Croeso mawr i bawb. Gwnaf i jest atgoffa Aelodau i dawelu unrhyw ddyfeisiadau electronig ac, wrth gwrs, mae cyfieithu ar sianel 1 a'r sain wreiddiol ar sianel 0. Wedyn, rydw i wedi derbyn ymddiheuriadau gan Steffan Lewis. Hefyd, a oes angen i unrhyw Aelod ddatgan unrhyw fudd neu ddiddordeb yn y materion dan sylw? Pawb yn hapus, felly.
English: If so, we'll turn to the witnesses for the Finance Committee inquiry into the costs of caring for an ageing population. Welcome to you all. Could you please introduce yourselves and your roles for the record? Thank you. Starting with Carol.
Welsh: Os felly, gwnawn ni droi at y tystion ar gyfer ymchwiliad y Pwyllgor Cyllid i gost gofalu am boblogaeth sy'n heneiddio. Croeso mawr i chi gyd. Os caf i jest ofyn i ddechrau eich bod chi'n datgan eich enw a'ch swyddogaethau jest ar gyfer y cofnod, os gwelwch yn dda - gan ddechrau gyda Carol.
English: Thank you very much for that, and thank you for the comprehensive evidence that you've already sent to us. If you are content, we'll go straight into questions on the basis of that evidence. Could I start, as Chair, and use a bit of the Chair's prerogative, just to put on record myself, as a Member representing Powys, of course, but also for other members of the committee, that we are very grateful for the work that NHS staff have striven to do in the inclement weather recently and the efforts to continue with services. Whatever the political arguments we have about the NHS, we are very grateful to staff. I'm sure you would like to relay that to your members and the people that you represent. So, thank you for that. We'll turn to the evidence, and can I ask to start - ? Clearly, from the evidence, the demand for social care services has changed - the nature of that demand - over the years and this in turn has affected the provision and the way in which it is provided. Could you just outline how that demand has changed and the way that you have had to change services or the way that you deliver funding to meet that demand?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr ichi am hynny, a diolch am y dystiolaeth gynhwysfawr iawn rŷm ni wedi ei derbyn gennych chi hefyd. Os ŷch chi'n hapus, byddwn ni'n mynd ati yn syth i holi cwestiynau ar sail y dystiolaeth honno. Os caf i ddechrau, serch hynny, fel Cadeirydd a defnyddio tipyn bach o hawl y Cadeirydd, dim ond i roi ar gofnod ar ran fy hunan, yn Aelod sy'n cynrychioli Powys hefyd, wrth gwrs, ond mae'n siŵr o ran aelodau'r pwyllgor hefyd, ein bod ni'n ddiolchgar iawn am y ffordd mae gweithwyr yr NHS wedi ymdrechu drwy'r tywydd garw yn ddiweddar a'r holl ymdrechion sydd wedi eu gwneud i barhau â gwasanaethau. Beth bynnag yw'r dadleuon gwleidyddol rydym ni'n eu cael o bryd i'w gilydd ynglŷn â'r gwasanaeth iechyd, mae ein diolchiadau yn fawr iawn i'r aelodau staff. Mae'n siŵr y byddwch chi'n cyflwyno hynny'n ôl i'ch aelodau a'r bobl yr ŷch chi'n eu cynrychioli hefyd. So, diolch am hynny. Os gwnawn ni droi at y dystiolaeth, os caf i ofyn i ddechrau, mae'n amlwg o'r dystiolaeth bod y galw am wasanaethau gofal cymdeithasol wedi newid - natur y galw - dros y blynyddoedd a bod hyn yn ei dro wedi effeithio ar y ddarpariaeth a'r ffordd mae'n cael ei darparu ar ei chyfer. A fedrwch chi jest amlinellu sut y mae'r galw yna wedi newid a ffordd rŷch chi wedi gorfod newid y gwasanaethau neu newid y ffordd rŷch chi'n darparu neu'n dosbarthu arian i gwrdd â'r galw yna?
English: Thank you. We will go into private session.
Welsh: Diolch. Awn ni i mewn i sesiwn breifat.
English: Welcome everyone to the latest meeting of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee here in the National Assembly for Wales. Under item 1, apologies, we have received apologies from Angela Burns for the meeting this morning, and Dawn Bowden and Lynne Neagle are running a little late. May I welcome Dr Jones and Dr Payne, and more from them soon? Can I further explain that this meeting is held bilingually, and you can use the interpretation equipment on channel 1 or hear the contributions in original language amplified on channel 2. You should follow the instructions of ushers if a fire alarm sounds and you do not need to touch the microphones as they work automatically. So that's everything under item 1.
Welsh: Croeso i bawb i gyfarfod diweddaraf y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yng Nghynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru. O dan eitem 1, ymddiheuriadau, rydym ni wedi derbyn ymddiheuriadau oddi wrth Angela Burns am y cyfarfod y bore yma, ac mae Dawn Bowden a Lynne Neagle yn rhedeg ychydig yn hwyr. A gaf i groesawu Dr Jones a Dr Payne, ond mwy amdanyn nhw yn y man? A gaf i egluro, fel rydych chi'n gwybod, fod y cyfarfod yma yn ddwyieithog? Gellir defnyddio clustffonau i glywed cyfieithu ar y pryd o'r Gymraeg i'r Saesneg ar sianel 1 neu i glywed cyfraniadau yn yr iaith wreiddiol yn well ar sianel 2. Dylid dilyn cyfarwyddiadau'r tywyswyr os bydd y larwm tân yn canu ac nid oes angen cyffwrdd â'r microffonau - maen nhw'n gweithio yn awtomatig. Felly dyna bob peth o dan eitem 1.
English: Under item 2, this item is the contract procurement of general medical services (GMS), which is an evidence session with the Royal College of General Practitioners Wales and General Practitioners Committee (Wales), and all the e-mails that we have received regarding EMIS. As a bit of background, Members will know, on 29 January, the procurement result was announced for GMS systems framework for GPs for the national health service in the future. Following the announcement, the Committee received concerns from the Royal College and individual GPs about the fact that EMIS Health Limited - the current provider for many GPs in Wales - was unsuccessful in its bid to continue to provide systems services for GPs in Wales. So, this is an opportunity for Members to explore the rationale for the contract award decision and to hear more about the concerns of GPs. We have received many papers on this subject and Members have read every word in detail. And so, can I extend a welcome to Dr Charlotte Jones, who is the chair BMA Cymru? Good morning Charlotte. And also to Dr Rebecca Payne, who is the chair of the Royal College of General Practitioners Wales. Can I introduce you and ask you to hold a short presentation and we'll go on until 9.30 a.m., and then on to the next meeting? And you will be in that part also, so everything will work, hopefully. So, can I ask Charlotte to start, and then Rebecca, on EMIS?
Welsh: O dan eitem 2: yr eitem hon ydy caffael contract fframwaith systemau gwasanaethau meddygol teulu - GMS - sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Choleg Brenhinol Meddygon Teulu Cymru a Phwyllgor Meddygon Teulu Cymru. Mae hyn ynglŷn â'r holl e-byst a galwadau ffôn rydym ni wedi eu cael ynglŷn ag EMIS. Fel cefndir, bydd Aelodau'n gwybod, ar 29 Ionawr, cyhoeddwyd canlyniad caffael fframwaith systemau GMS ar gyfer darparu systemau clinigol a gwasanaethau meddygon teulu i wasanaeth iechyd gwladol Cymru yn y dyfodol. Yn dilyn y cyhoeddiad, derbyniodd y pwyllgor bryderon gan Goleg Brenhinol y Meddygon Teulu a meddygon teulu unigol ynghylch y ffaith bod EMIS Health - darparwr presennol gyda nifer o feddygon teulu yng Nghymru, yn cynnwys nifer sylweddol yn y gogledd - wedi bod yn aflwyddiannus yn ei gais i barhau i ddarparu gwasanaethau systemau meddygon teulu yng Nghymru. Felly, mae hwn yn gyfle i Aelodau archwilio'r rhesymeg dros benderfyniad dyfarnu'r contract a chlywed mwy am bryderon meddygon teulu. Rydym ni wedi derbyn llond llwyth o bapurau ar y pwnc yma ac mae Aelodau wedi darllen pob gair mewn manylder, ac a gaf i estyn croeso i Dr Charlotte Jones, cadeirydd GPC Cymru, BMA Cymru? Bore da, Charlotte. A hefyd Dr Rebecca Payne, cadeirydd Coleg Brenhinol y Meddygon Teulu Cymru. A gaf i wahodd chi eich dwy i wneud cyflwyniad byr ac wedyn cawn ni gwestiynau a bydd yr adran hon drosodd erbyn 9.30 a.m., cyn inni fynd ymlaen i weddill y cyfarfod? Chi ydy'r tystion cyntaf i'r rhan hynny hefyd, felly bydd popeth yn gweithio, gobeithio. Felly, a gaf i ofyn i Charlotte i ddechrau, ac wedyn Rebecca, ar EMIS?
English: Item 3, therefore, is the one-day inquiry into the all-Wales medical performers list. It is evidence session 1. It's the first of four sessions this morning, and so the first witnesses, of course, are the witnesses in front of us. People will again have received letters and attended meetings on the separate medical performers lists for England and Wales, ease of access to MPL registration for doctors returning to Wales, and how the MPL registration process assesses the equivalence of medical training undertaken outside the UK. Those are the themes that have been highlighted over the past few months. Therefore, may I welcome, again, Dr Charlotte Jones, who is the chair of BMA Wales, and Dr Rebecca Payne, who is the chair of the Royal College of General Practitioners Wales? We've also read all the papers regarding this subject, so we'll go straight into questioning. The first two questions are from Caroline Jones.
Welsh: Eitem 3, felly: ymchwiliad undydd i restr cyflawnwyr meddygon Cymru gyfan a sesiwn dystiolaeth rhif 1. Rhif 1 o bedwar o sesiynau'r bore yma. So, y rhai cyntaf, wrth gwrs, y tystion cyntaf, ydy'r tystion sydd o'n blaenau ni. Bydd pobl wedi cael, eto, llythyrau ac ati a hefyd cyfarfodydd ynglŷn â rhestri cyflawnwyr meddygol ar wahân ar gyfer Cymru a Lloegr, mynediad rhwydd i gofrestru gyda'r rhestr cyflawnwyr meddygol ar gyfer meddygon sy'n dychwelyd i Gymru, a sut mae'r broses gofrestru gyda'r rhestr cyflawnwyr meddygol yn asesu cywerthedd hyfforddiant meddygol y tu allan i'r Deyrnas Unedig. Dyna'r themâu sydd wedi dod i'r amlwg dros y misoedd diwethaf. Felly, a gaf i groesawu eto, Dr Charlotte Jones, cadeirydd GPC Cymru, BMA Cymru, a hefyd Dr Rebecca Payne, cadeirydd coleg brenhinol meddygon teulu Cymru? Rydym hefyd wedi darllen yr holl bapurau ynghlwm â'r issue yma, felly fe awn ni'n syth i mewn i gwestiynau. Mae'r ddau gwestiwn cyntaf gan Caroline Jones.
English: Welcome back everyone after that break. We are back as the Health, Social Care and Sports Committee here in the National Assembly for Wales. We have reached item 4 on the agenda this morning, which is a continuation of our one-day inquiry into the all-Wales medical performers list. This is the second evidence session. In front of us we have the General Medical Council. It is therefore a pleasure to welcome Clare Barton, who is the assistant director of registration for the General Medical Council. The microphones work automatically, therefore you don't need to touch anything. We have read all the papers that have been submitted on this subject and, therefore, with your permission, we'll go straight into questions. Therefore, Caroline Jones.
Welsh: Croeso nôl i bawb ar ôl yr egwyl yna. Rydym yn ôl fel cyfarfod o'r Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yng Nghynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru. Rydym ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 4 ar yr agenda y bore yma rŵan a pharhad efo ein hymchwiliad un-dydd i restr cyflawnwyr meddygol Cymru gyfan. Hwn ydy'r ail sesiwn dystiolaeth. O'n blaenau mae'r Cyngor Meddygol Cyffredinol. Mae'n bleser i fi felly groesawu Clare Barton, cyfarwyddwr cofrestru cynorthwyol y Cyngor Meddygol Cyffredinol. Mae'r meicroffonau'n gweithio'n awtomatig - nid oes angen cyffwrdd â dim byd. Rydym ni wedi darllen yr holl bapurau wrth gefn ynglŷn â'r pwnc yma, felly, gyda'ch caniatâd, awn ni'n syth i mewn i gwestiynau. Felly, Caroline Jones.
English: Great, thank you very much. That's the end of this evidence session - people are keeping to time very well, so we're ahead of time. But may I say thank you to you for your evidence? You will receive a transcript of these discussions so that you can confirm that it is factually correct. We will take a break now, of five minutes, before we start the question session with the Wales Deanery at 10:45. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Grêt, diolch yn fawr. Dyna ddiwedd y sesiwn yma o dystiolaeth - pobl yn cadw at amser yn fendigedig, felly rydym ni o flaen amser. Ond a allaf i gyhoeddi diolch yn fawr i chi unwaith eto am eich tystiolaeth? Byddwch chi'n derbyn trawsgrifiad o'r trafodaethau yma er mwyn i chi allu cadarnhau ei fod o'n ffeithiol gywir. Gwnawn ni dorri rŵan am egwyl o bum munud, a gwnawn ni ddechrau efo sesiwn holi Deoniaeth Cymru am 10:45. Diolch yn fawr.
English: So, welcome back, everyone, to this latest item of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, here at the National Assembly for Wales. We are moving on now to item 5 - the continuation of our one-day inquiry into the all-Wales medical performers list. This is evidence session No. 3, out of four. Before us, we have the Wales Deanery. We've had all sorts of written evidence, and everybody has read that in great detail. I'm very pleased to welcome an old friend of the committee, namely Professor Malcolm Lewis from the Wales Deanery. You don't need to touch the microphones; everything operates automatically. We do have a loose list of questions, so we'll go straight to the questions. Caroline Jones.
Welsh: Croeso'n ôl i bawb i'r eitem diweddaraf yma o'r Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon, yma yng Nghynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru. Rydym ni'n symud ymlaen rŵan i eitem 5 - parhad efo'n ymchwiliad undydd i restr cyflawnwyr meddygol Cymru gyfan. Hwn ydyw sesiwn dystiolaeth rhif 3, allan o bedwar. O'n blaenau ni y mae Deoniaeth Cymru. Rydym wedi derbyn pob math o dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig y mae pawb wedi ei darllen, yn naturiol, mewn manylder. Rwy'n falch iawn croesawu hen ffrind o'n blaenau ni - yr Athro Malcolm Lewis, Deoniaeth Cymru. Nid oes angen cyffwrdd â'r meicroffonau na dim byd; mae popeth yn digwydd yn awtomatig. Mae gyda ni restr o gwestiynau weddol llac ac, wedyn, awn ni'n syth i mewn i'r cwestiynau, yn y bôn. Caroline Jones.
English: It is possible, but if that does happen, some will stay in Wrexham. So, it works both sides of the border, I'd say, if that's true. But the thing is, as I said earlier, if there is a problem, it happens once. Once you've done it, it's happened; you're on both lists and you can move anyway.
Welsh: Mae'n bosib, ond hefyd os ydy hynny'n digwydd, bydd rhai yn aros yn Wrecsam. So, mae'n gweithio y ddwy ochr i'r ffin, fel y gelli di feddwl, os ydy hynny'n wir. Ond y peth yw, fel y dywedais i'n gynharach, os oes yna broblem, mae'r broblem yn digwydd unwaith. Ar ôl gwneud y peth, mae wedi digwydd, ac rydych chi ar y ddau list ac fe allwch chi symud beth bynnag.
English: In a way, I think what we're going to be asking for as a committee is just a joint understanding between these lists on both sides of the border so that they respect each other, they recognise each other, and that the process is much easier to register on the other side of the border. Now, of course, you support that kind of step being taken.
Welsh: Mewn ffordd, rwy'n meddwl mai beth rydym ni'n mynd i ofyn amdano fel pwyllgor ydy jest cyd-ddealltwriaeth rhwng y listiau ar ddwy ochr y ffin fel bod y naill yn parchu'r lllall, yn cydnabod y llall, ac felly bod y broses yn hawdd iawn i gofrestru ar ochr arall y ffin. Rydych chi, wrth gwrs, yn cefnogi y math yna o gam - y 'streamline-io'.
English: Yes, and I certainly think this could happen easily, as long as people notice that some small things will be different, and that we get a joint understanding between both that that's okay and that you agree that both things do the same thing - then, why not?
Welsh: Yn wir, ac rwy'n sicr y gallai hyn ddigwydd yn rhwydd, dim ond bod pobl yn sylwi bod rhai pethau bach yn wahanol, a'n bod ni'n cael rhyw ddealltwriaeth rhwng y ddau bod hynny'n beth iawn a'ch bod chi'n cytuno bod y ddau beth yn gwneud yr un peth - wedyn, pam lai?