English: Well, my own view is that the issue around COVID and the response to COVID is immeasurably more important in the lives of most people than the point that he has, with respect, just raised. I don't dismiss the point at all, because he raises an important point about the impact of Brexit into the future. My own view is that the question should be posed slightly differently, which is: given the immense challenges and the immense damage that COVID and corona is going to inflict on all parts of the UK, why would one voluntarily choose to overlay on top of that the economic damage caused by Brexit? That seems to me to be - . My own view is that would be irresponsible. But on a more pragmatic basis, I think there are two fundamental questions that even someone who takes his view, as distinct to mine, ought to be persuaded by, if I may put it like that. And the first is: all Governments in the UK rightly are focused on the task of dealing with and tackling the consequences of living with COVID; that is obviously the overriding priority of all Governments in the UK, as it should be. What that means necessarily, and incidentally, in Europe - . What that means is that the bandwidth and the capacity to pursue the negotiations over a very complex set of future relationships simply isn't available to anybody in the way that it would need to be for those negotiations to lead to the best available outcome, whatever perspective you have of Brexit. So, it seems to us as a Government that the sensible thing in the interest of good governance is for there to be a pause in those negotiations and an extension until Governments have more capacity to be able to engage with those negotiations. And the last point I'll make - and it's really not on my own behalf, but on behalf of all those businesses that have furloughed their staff, or organisations across the UK who have furloughed their staff - I'm not sure how any Government says to people in that situation that it's time to start preparing for whatever Brexit brings. I, obviously, take a very different view from him of what Brexit brings, but plainly it requires significant preparation, whatever it is, and I'm not sure how we say to people in that situation that it's time for them to start preparing, because many of them will just hear that and not understand how they can get to grips with that at this point. So, that points to a very pragmatic, common-sense approach, which is to pause and delay and solve and address the challenge that lies most immediately ahead of us before we come back and conclude those negotiations.
Welsh: Wel, fy marn i yw bod mater COVID a'r ymateb i COVID yn anhraethol bwysicach ym mywydau'r rhan fwyaf o bobl na'r pwynt y mae ef, gyda phob parch, newydd ei godi. Nid wyf yn diystyru'r pwynt o gwbl, oherwydd mae'n codi pwynt pwysig am effaith Brexit yn y dyfodol. Yn fy marn i, dylid gofyn y cwestiwn mewn ffordd ychydig yn wahanol, sef: o ystyried yr heriau enfawr a'r niwed aruthrol y mae COVID a'r coronafeirws yn mynd i'w achosi i bob rhan o'r DU, pam y byddai rhywun o'i wirfodd yn dewis gosod ar ben hynny y difrod economaidd a achosir gan Brexit? Ymddengys hynny i mi - . Fy marn i yw y byddai hynny'n anghyfrifol. Ond ar sail fwy pragmataidd, rwy'n meddwl bod yna ddau gwestiwn sylfaenol y dylai hyd yn oed rhywun sy'n rhannu ei farn ef, yn hytrach na fy un i, gael eu perswadio ganddynt, os caf ei roi felly. A'r cyntaf yw: mae pob Llywodraeth yn y DU yn canolbwyntio'n briodol ar y dasg o fynd i'r afael â chanlyniadau byw gyda COVID; mae'n amlwg mai dyna brif flaenoriaeth pob Llywodraeth yn y DU, fel y dylai fod. Beth y mae hynny'n ei olygu, o reidrwydd, a gyda llaw, yn Ewrop - . Yr hyn y mae hynny'n ei olygu yw nad yw'r lled band a'r capasiti i fynd ar drywydd y negodiadau ynglŷn â chyfres gymhleth iawn o gysylltiadau yn y dyfodol ar gael i neb yn y ffordd y byddai angen iddynt fod er mwyn i'r negodiadau hynny arwain at y canlyniad gorau sydd ar gael, pa bersbectif bynnag sydd gennych ar Brexit. Felly, mae'n ymddangos i ni fel Llywodraeth mai'r peth synhwyrol i'w wneud er mwyn sicrhau llywodraethu da yw cael saib yn y negodiadau hynny ac estyniad hyd nes y bydd gan Lywodraethau fwy o gapasiti i allu cymryd rhan yn y trafodaethau hynny. A'r pwynt olaf a wnaf - ac nid yw ar fy rhan fy hun, ond ar ran yr holl fusnesau sydd wedi gosod eu staff ar ffyrlo, neu sefydliadau ar draws y DU sydd wedi bod yn gosod eu staff ar ffyrlo - nid wyf yn siŵr sut y mae unrhyw Lywodraeth yn dweud wrth bobl yn y sefyllfa honno ei bod hi'n bryd dechrau paratoi ar gyfer beth bynnag a ddaw yn sgil Brexit. Yn amlwg, mae gennyf farn wahanol iawn i'w un ef am yr hyn a ddaw yn sgil Brexit, ond mae'n amlwg fod angen paratoi sylweddol, beth bynnag a ddaw, ac nid wyf yn siŵr sut y gallwn ddweud wrth bobl yn y sefyllfa honno ei bod yn bryd iddynt ddechrau paratoi, oherwydd bydd llawer ohonynt yn clywed hynny heb ddeall sut y gallant fynd i'r afael â hynny ar hyn o bryd. Felly, mae hynny'n awgrymu dull pragmataidd a synhwyrol iawn o weithredu, sef oedi a gohirio a datrys a mynd i'r afael â'r her sy'n fwyaf uniongyrchol o'n blaenau cyn inni ddod yn ôl a chwblhau'r negodiadau hynny.