English: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Dirprwy Lywydd. I'm delighted to sum up with a few comments here on the debate we've just heard and first of all to welcome the fact that this debate has been called and we've had so many contributions. I, like many Assembly Members, have been in many touchline discussions with mums and dads, players, coaches and others over the last few weeks and months about the future of regional rugby, and I think it's a good opportunity, I have to say, for some of those views to be aired now in the Senedd. And that's what we've heard here today. I thought at one point, Dirprwy Lywydd, it was going to be entirely an Ospreys-led debate, but thank goodness we then had interventions from north Wales and other areas as well, otherwise it would indeed have been parochial, as the Minister said. But I thank Andrew R.T. Davies for opening this debate. He used those words there about having a clever, nimble and creative solution for regional rugby. That does actually reflect some discussions I've been having today with some very good clubs at grass-roots level who've come through difficult times but have put themselves on a good footing: a very good structure at national level with the WRU, but a real fragility and issues around sustainability at the regional level. I think the Minister's closing remarks there about not being parochial in this are the ones we need to listen to, which is: can we look at what is good for the game for supporting that regional basis in Wales, right across Wales? But also, as many Members have rightly pointed out, that regional basis, if we get it right, also sustains huge impact within community outreach, support for clubs within that region and so on. So, we do need to get this right. I think most Members remarked in their comments that they were glad to see that Project Reset has been temporarily shelved. This gives us an opportunity - this gives the WRU, professional players, associations, the players themselves, but also the fans, I think - to get involved now in looking at what the structure going forward could be. Ultimately, these are commercial and business decisions, of course, at a regional level, but, as was remarked there by Andrew R.T. Davies in his opening remarks, the importance of this, which has come through consistently here, is about taking the fans with them. That of course includes my own region, with the Ospreys, but all the regions, and of course it includes those regions where there is great potential as well, including in north Wales. I think this opportunity now of taking a temporary pause and having a really good look at what is in the best interests of all of Wales in terms of regional rugby, but taking the fans with you, is critical. And I think that's the thing that caused some consternation for supporters, whether they were lifetime debenture holders of Bonymaen or Bethesda or, as I am, president of Maesteg Rugby Football Club, and so on - all of us concerned about the speed and in some ways the chaotic nature of day after day announcements around Project Reset. At least now things can be calm and go forward with some consideration. Dai Lloyd - again an Ospreys season ticket holder, and a Dunvant club regular as well - mentioned very much the role, that the club does act very much as a youth club, in effect, as well, as so many of our grass-roots rugby clubs do, indeed. He remarked on the fact, in terms of the Ospreys-Scarlets merger - in his words, ditching your best region was never a clever idea. Mike absolutely turned to the successes that are currently there, and we do have many - as others have remarked, it is our women's rugby that is going from strength to strength, and we need to make sure that that is not only at a national and regional level, but also at that club level as well - and junior rugby success as well in participation, but also in the success on the field as well. But he did point out the challenge that we have - those low crowds in regional rugby, particularly in Wales, compared to what is happening in France and England and Ireland and elsewhere. Something is going wrong in terms of the audience's willingness to attend and stand on the touchline and support these clubs. That is different from being on tv. Mike, I'll happily give way.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Rwy'n falch iawn o grynhoi gydag ychydig o sylwadau yma ar y ddadl rydym newydd ei chlywed ac yn gyntaf oll i groesawu'r ffaith bod y ddadl hon wedi ei galw a'n bod wedi cael cymaint o gyfraniadau. Rwyf fi, fel llawer o Aelodau'r Cynulliad, wedi bod mewn llawer o drafodaethau ar y llinell ystlys gyda mamau a thadau, chwaraewyr, hyfforddwyr ac eraill dros yr wythnosau a'r misoedd diwethaf am ddyfodol rygbi rhanbarthol, a chredaf ei fod yn gyfle da, rhaid imi ddweud, i rai o'r safbwyntiau hynny gael eu gwyntyllu yn awr yn y Senedd. A dyna a glywsom yma heddiw. Ar un pwynt, Ddirprwy Lywydd, roeddwn yn credu ei bod yn mynd i fod yn ddadl a gâi ei harwain gan y Gweilch yn llwyr, ond diolch byth cawsom ymyriadau o ogledd Cymru wedyn ac ardaloedd eraill hefyd, neu fel arall byddai wedi bod yn blwyfol yn wir, fel y dywedodd y Gweinidog. Ond diolch i Andrew R.T. Davies am agor y ddadl. Defnyddiodd y geiriau ynglŷn â chael ateb clyfar, heini a chreadigol ar gyfer rygbi rhanbarthol. Mae hynny'n adlewyrchu rhai o'r trafodaethau a gefais heddiw gyda rhai clybiau da iawn ar lawr gwlad sydd wedi dod drwy gyfnod anodd ond wedi sicrhau sylfaen dda iddynt eu hunain: strwythur da iawn ar lefel genedlaethol gydag Undeb Rygbi Cymru, ond ansefydlogrwydd go iawn a phroblemau'n ymwneud â chynaliadwyedd ar y lefel ranbarthol. Credaf fod sylwadau'r Gweinidog i gloi am beidio â bod yn blwyfol yn hyn yn rhai y bydd angen inni wrando arnynt, sef: a allwn edrych ar beth sy'n dda ar gyfer y gêm er mwyn cefnogi'r sylfaen ranbarthol yng Nghymru, ar draws Cymru? Ond hefyd, fel y nododd llawer o'r Aelodau'n gywir, mae'r sylfaen ranbarthol honno, o'i chael yn iawn, hefyd yn hynod o effeithiol o fewn gwaith cymunedol allanol, cymorth i glybiau o fewn y rhanbarth hwnnw ac ati. Felly, mae angen inni gael hyn yn iawn. Credaf fod y rhan fwyaf o'r Aelodau wedi dweud yn eu sylwadau eu bod yn falch o weld bod 'Project Reset' wedi'i roi o'r neilltu am y tro. Mae hyn yn rhoi cyfle inni - mae hyn yn rhoi cyfle i Undeb Rygbi Cymru, chwaraewyr proffesiynol, cymdeithasau, y chwaraewyr eu hunain, ond hefyd y cefnogwyr, rwy'n credu - gymryd rhan yn awr yn y gwaith o edrych ar beth allai'r strwythur fod yn y dyfodol. Yn y pen draw, mae'r rhain yn benderfyniadau masnachol a busnes, wrth gwrs, ar lefel ranbarthol, ond fel y dywedodd Andrew R.T. Davies yn ei sylwadau agoriadol, mae pwysigrwydd hyn, sydd wedi'i wyntyllu'n gyson yma, yn ymwneud â chario'r cefnogwyr gyda hwy. Wrth gwrs mae hynny'n cynnwys fy rhanbarth fy hun, gyda'r Gweilch, ond y rhanbarthau i gyd, ac wrth gwrs mae'n cynnwys y rhanbarthau lle mae potensial mawr hefyd, gan gynnwys yng ngogledd Cymru. Credaf fod hwn yn gyfle yn awr i gymryd saib dros dro ac edrych yn fanwl iawn ar beth sydd er budd gorau pawb yng Nghymru o ran rygbi rhanbarthol, ac mae cario'r cefnogwyr gyda chi yn hollbwysig. A chredaf mai dyna'r peth sydd wedi achosi rhywfaint o ofid i gefnogwyr, boed yn ddeiliaid dyledeb oes ym Môn-y-maen neu Fethesda neu, fel minnau, yn llywydd Clwb Rygbi Maesteg, ac ati - mae pob un ohonom yn pryderu ynglŷn â chyflymder, a natur anhrefnus mewn rhai ffyrdd, y cyhoeddiadau ddydd ar ôl dydd ynghylch 'Project Reset'. O leiaf nawr gall pethau fod yn dawel a symud ymlaen yn weddol ystyrlon. Soniodd Dai Lloyd - deiliad tocyn tymor y Gweilch unwaith eto, ac un o selogion clwb Dynfant hefyd - yn helaeth am y rôl, fod y clwb yn gweithredu'n debyg iawn i glwb ieuenctid i bob pwrpas, fel cynifer o'n clybiau rygbi ar lawr gwlad. Soniodd am y ffaith, o ran cynlluniau i uno'r Scarlets a'r Gweilch - yn ei eiriau ef, nid oedd troi cefn ar eich rhanbarth gorau byth yn syniad clyfar. Trodd Mike at y llwyddiannau sydd yno ar hyn o bryd, ac mae gennym lawer - fel y mae eraill wedi dweud, mae ein rygbi menywod yn mynd o nerth i nerth, ac mae angen inni wneud yn siŵr nad ar lefel genedlaethol a rhanbarthol yn unig y mae hynny'n digwydd, ond hefyd ar lefel clwb - a llwyddiant rygbi iau hefyd, o ran y nifer sy'n cymryd rhan, ond o ran llwyddiant ar y cae yn ogystal. Ond fe nododd yr her sy'n ei hwynebu - y niferoedd isel sy'n gwylio rygbi rhanbarthol, yn enwedig yng Nghymru, o'i gymharu â beth sy'n digwydd yn Ffrainc a Lloegr ac Iwerddon a mannau eraill. Mae rhywbeth yn mynd o'i le o ran parodrwydd y gynulleidfa i fynychu a sefyll ar ochr y cae a chefnogi'r clybiau hyn. Mae hynny'n wahanol i fod ar y teledu. Mike, rwy'n hapus i ildio.