English: Yes, absolutely, I agree. And I think I'm more offended by the fact that you're younger than me than anything else. Yes, I do think it was a missed opportunity - absolutely, it was. I think that Government between 1997 and 2007 did some fantastic things, but they also didn't do things they could have done, and I think this is one of the things they could have done and they didn't do and should have been done. But the Deputy Minister there today has the opportunity to do it and I know it is his intention to do it. We need that re-regulation. So, just coming back to the examples, the bus emergency scheme - and I can see Ken Skates there, who established the bus emergency scheme - that saved the bus industry. That saved the bus industry as it currently exists, following the pandemic. Without BES and without BES 2, you would not have a bus industry to build on right now, and that was because of the actions taken by the Welsh Government. So, we can look at our political predecessors and say, 'They should have done this' but that doesn't stop us doing things today and being bold. So, when you look at the routes that happen - . I'm fed up of negotiating, of begging private sector providers, like Carolyn Thomas said, to provide routes that are non-profitable. I'm fed up of it; I'm constantly doing it. We're looking towards private providers to provide a route to the Royal Gwent from Pontypridd through Nelson and Islwyn and Cwmbran. We are looking to do that. We can do it; we can work hard to achieve it. But what we really need is a publicly provided service to fill in those gaps for us, and I think the re-regulation of bus services would allow that and that is what that Bill needs to do. So, I say to James Evans, you can't help being younger than me, but you can make up for it by supporting our amendment. And I'd also like to say to Mabon ap Gwynfor, who is the only other non-Conservative, I think, whose signed the amendment - I think he's closing the debate today - [ Interruption.] Yes, Rhys, but you supported the amendment. I'd ask Mabon: come and support that amendment too. We object to the motion only in order to vote for that amendment. That's really important, that we get that amendment through, because I think it will make a significant difference. So, we look forward to support across the Chamber.
Welsh: Ydw, yn sicr, rwy'n cytuno. Ac rwy'n credu fy mod wedi digio mwy am y ffaith eich bod chi'n iau na fi na dim byd arall. Ydw, rwy'n credu ei fod yn gyfle a gollwyd - yn sicr. Rwy'n credu bod y Llywodraeth rhwng 1997 a 2007 wedi gwneud pethau gwych, ond hefyd ni wnaethant bethau y gallent fod wedi'u gwneud, a chredaf fod hwn yn un o'r pethau y gallent fod wedi'i wneud ac na wnaethant ac y dylent fod wedi'i wneud. Ond mae gan y Dirprwy Weinidog yno heddiw gyfle i'w wneud a gwn ei fod yn bwriadu ei wneud. Mae arnom angen yr ail-reoleiddio hwnnw. Felly, gan droi'n ôl at yr enghreifftiau, y cynllun argyfwng bysiau - a gallaf weld Ken Skates, a sefydlodd y cynllun brys ar gyfer y sector bysiau (BES) - a achubodd y diwydiant bysiau. Achubodd hwnnw y diwydiant bysiau fel y mae ar hyn o bryd, yn dilyn y pandemig. Heb BES a BES 2, ni fyddai gennych ddiwydiant bysiau i adeiladu arno ar hyn o bryd, a hynny oherwydd y camau a gymerwyd gan Lywodraeth Cymru. Felly, gallwn edrych ar ein rhagflaenwyr gwleidyddol a dweud, 'Dylent fod wedi gwneud hyn' ond nid yw hynny'n ein hatal ni rhag gwneud pethau heddiw a bod yn feiddgar. Felly, pan edrychwch ar y llwybrau sydd gennym - . Rwyf wedi cael llond bol ar negodi, ar erfyn ar ddarparwyr sector preifat, fel y dywedodd Carolyn Thomas, i ddarparu llwybrau nad ydynt yn broffidiol. Rwyf wedi cael llond bol ar hynny; rwy'n ei wneud o hyd. Rydym eisiau i ddarparwyr preifat ddarparu llwybr i Ysbyty Brenhinol Gwent o Bontypridd drwy Nelson ac Islwyn a Chwmbrân. Rydym eisiau gwneud hynny. Fe allwn ei wneud; fe allwn weithio'n galed i'w gyflawni. Ond yr hyn sydd ei angen arnom mewn gwirionedd yw gwasanaeth a ddarperir yn gyhoeddus i lenwi'r bylchau hynny i ni, a chredaf y byddai ail-reoleiddio gwasanaethau bysiau yn caniatáu hynny a dyna y mae angen i'r Bil hwnnw ei wneud. Felly, dywedaf wrth James Evans, ni allwch help eich bod yn iau na mi, ond gallwch wneud iawn am hynny drwy gefnogi ein gwelliant. A hoffwn ddweud hefyd wrth Mabon ap Gwynfor, sef yr unig Aelod arall a lofnododd y gwelliant nad yw'n Aelod Ceidwadol, rwy'n credu - credaf ei fod yn cloi'r ddadl heddiw - [ Torri ar draws.] Do, Rhys, ond cefnogi'r gwelliant a wnaethoch chi. Hoffwn ofyn i Mabon: dewch i gefnogi'r gwelliant hwnnw hefyd. Yr unig reswm pam ein bod yn gwrthwynebu'r cynnig yw er mwyn pleidleisio dros y gwelliant. Mae'n bwysig iawn fod y gwelliant hwnnw'n cael ei dderbyn, oherwydd credaf y bydd yn gwneud gwahaniaeth sylweddol. Felly, edrychwn ymlaen at gefnogaeth ar draws y Siambr.