English: Diolch. I'd like to thank the Minister for his statement and put on record, too, my thanks to Lord Burns and his team for their work in completing the report. M4 commuters and the communities surrounding this stretch of the M4 deserve action after years of discussion that began, of course, in the 90s. Now, we in Plaid Cymru welcome the recommendations of this report. For some time, Plaid Cymru has maintained that the solution to solving the Brynglas congestion problem is to invest in the public transport network around Newport. Simply building a new road will not solve the issue, and I'm glad to see so many recommendations reflecting this in the report. Anyone with an understanding of induced demand would appreciate this. We're also living, of course, in the midst of a climate emergency. If we're serious in tackling that emergency, the logical conclusion when it comes to transport is investing in sustainable modes of public transportation. Recommendations for solving congestion problems on the M4, of course, could be implemented immediately if Wales had powers over rail infrastructure. The Burns commission has recommended, as has been set out, that congestion issues could be targeted with an investment of around £600 million to £800 million in public transport. As you've outlined, Minister, this could include building six new train stations, upgrading existing tracks, and so on, but rail infrastructure is not devolved, which means some of the main recommendations would require the agreement and support of the UK Government to implement, as you've just been setting out. Now, this does concern me. The recent UK Government spending review showed a huge reduction in the relative transport funding that Wales receives from Westminster, due to HS2 being designated as an England and Wales project, which suggests improving the Welsh rail network is not a priority for the UK Government. Let's remember that the required investment set out by Burns is tiny compared with HS2 at less than 1 per cent of the cost of that project and, indeed, less than the amount by which HS2 has increased since last September. And it represents excellent value for money, delivering transport and wider environmental benefits for a region that's been so neglected for too long. Now, Minister, the sad reality is that had Labour and the Tories supported rail devolution as part of the St David's Day process, the Welsh Government could have started implementing these recommendations immediately. But as things stand, we must hope that the UK Government does the right thing, a deeply precarious situation to be in, to put it mildly. So, M4 commuters, I'm sure you would agree, deserve action after so long of discussion with this, so I'd urge the UK Government, as you said, to meet you and the Welsh Government as soon as possible to discuss how they'll implement the recommendations, because if they refuse to do so, it will be further proof that Westminster will never work for Wales. But Minister, I close by asking you: how confident are you that the UK Government will be keen to work with the Welsh Government on this, and what contingency plans can you put in place if they are not keen to work with the Welsh Government to take these recommendations forward?
Welsh: Diolch. Fe hoffwn i ddiolch i'r Gweinidog am ei ddatganiad a mynegi ar goedd hefyd fy niolch i Arglwydd Burns a'i dîm ef am eu gwaith nhw wrth gwblhau'r adroddiad. Mae cymudwyr ar yr M4 a'r cymunedau o amgylch y rhan hon o'r M4 yn haeddu gweld camau gweithredu ar ôl blynyddoedd o drafod a ddechreuodd, wrth gwrs, yn y 90au. Nawr, rydym ni ym Mhlaid Cymru yn croesawu argymhellion yr adroddiad hwn. Ers cryn amser, mae Plaid Cymru wedi dweud mai'r ateb i ddatrys problem tagfeydd Bryn-glas yw buddsoddi yn y rhwydwaith trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus o amgylch Casnewydd. Ni fyddai cael ffordd newydd yn datrys y mater, ac rwy'n falch o weld cynifer o argymhellion yn adlewyrchu hyn yn yr adroddiad. Fe fyddai unrhyw un sydd ag unrhyw ddealltwriaeth o alw a ysgogwyd yn gwerthfawrogi hyn. Rydym yn byw, wrth gwrs, yng nghanol argyfwng hinsawdd hefyd. Os ydym o ddifrif wrth fynd i'r afael â'r argyfwng hwnnw, y casgliad rhesymegol o ran trafnidiaeth yw buddsoddi mewn dulliau cynaliadwy o drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus. Fe ellid gweithredu argymhellion ar gyfer datrys problemau tagfeydd ar yr M4 ar unwaith, wrth gwrs, pe bai gan Gymru bwerau dros seilwaith y rheilffyrdd. Mae comisiwn Burns wedi argymell, fel y nodwyd, y gellid targedu materion tagfeydd gyda buddsoddiad o tua £600 miliwn i £800 miliwn mewn trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus. Fel yr amlinellwyd gennych chi, Gweinidog, fe allai hyn gynnwys adeiladu chwe gorsaf drenau newydd, uwchraddio cledrau sy'n bodoli eisoes, ac yn y blaen, ond ni chafodd seilwaith y rheilffyrdd ei ddatganoli, sy'n golygu y byddai rhai o'r prif argymhellion hyn yn gofyn am gytundeb a chefnogaeth gan Lywodraeth y DU i'w gweithredu, fel yr ydych chi newydd ei fynegi. Nawr, mae hyn yn peri pryder i mi. Fe ddangosodd adolygiad diweddar o wariant Llywodraeth y DU ostyngiad enfawr yn y cyllid trafnidiaeth cymharol a gaiff Cymru o San Steffan, gan fod HS2 wedi ei ddynodi'n brosiect ar gyfer Cymru a Lloegr, sy'n awgrymu nad yw gwella rhwydwaith rheilffyrdd Cymru yn flaenoriaeth i Lywodraeth y DU. Gadewch inni gofio bod y buddsoddiad gofynnol a nodwyd gan Burns yn fach iawn o'i gymharu ag HS2 ac ar gyfradd lai nag 1 y cant o gost y prosiect hwnnw ac, yn wir, mae'n llai na swm y cynnydd sydd wedi bod yng nghost HS2 ers mis Medi diwethaf. Ac mae'n cynrychioli gwerth rhagorol am arian, gan ddarparu trafnidiaeth a manteision amgylcheddol ehangach i ranbarth sydd wedi cael ei esgeuluso i'r fath raddau ers llawer gormod o amser. Nawr, Gweinidog, yn drist iawn, y realiti yw hyn. Pe bai Llafur a'r Torïaid wedi cefnogi datganoli'r rheilffyrdd yn rhan o'r broses Dydd Gŵyl Dewi, fe allai Llywodraeth Cymru fod wedi dechrau ar y gwaith o weithredu'r argymhellion hyn ar unwaith. Ond fel y mae pethau ar hyn o bryd, mae'n rhaid inni obeithio y bydd Llywodraeth y DU yn gwneud y peth iawn, sy'n sefyllfa ansicr iawn i fod ynddi hi, a dweud y lleiaf. Felly, mae cymudwyr yr M4, rwy'n siŵr y byddech chi'n cytuno, yn haeddu gweld camau gweithredu ar ôl cymaint o drafod â hyn. Fe fyddwn i'n annog Llywodraeth y DU, fel y gwnaethoch chi ddweud, i gwrdd â chi a Llywodraeth Cymru cyn gynted â phosibl i drafod sut y byddan nhw'n gweithredu'r argymhellion, oherwydd os byddan nhw'n gwrthod gwneud hynny, fe fyddai hynny'n brawf eto nad yw San Steffan byth yn gweithio i Gymru. Ond Gweinidog, rwyf i am orffen drwy ofyn i chi: pa mor hyderus ydych chi y bydd Llywodraeth y DU yn awyddus i weithio gyda Llywodraeth Cymru yn hyn o beth, a pha gynlluniau wrth gefn sydd gennych chi y gallwch eu rhoi ar waith os nad ydyw San Steffan yn awyddus i weithio gyda Llywodraeth Cymru i ddatblygu'r argymhellion hyn?