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English: Two things to conclude from me. I understand that, back in November 2018, you appeared before the committee. I wasn't on the committee then, obviously, but two things that you said at the time - you spoke about Creative Wales and you said at that time that you were determined to see things moving in terms of Creative Wales and to initiate the process and launch the body. I understand that there is a response now, a letter has been sent to the Chair of the committee that confirms that there will be a launch event for Creative Wales on 29 -
Welsh: Dau beth, felly, i gloi, gyda fi. Rwy'n deall, nôl ym mis Tachwedd 2018 roeddech chi o flaen y pwyllgor, ac roeddwn i, yn amlwg, ddim ar y pwyllgor bryd hynny. Dau beth a ddywedoch chi ar y pryd - gwnaethoch chi sôn am Cymru Creadigol ac fe ddywedoch chi bryd hynny eich bod chi'n ddiamynegddar i weld pethau'n dechrau symud gyda Cymru Creadigol ac i ddechrau'r broses a lansio'r corff. Rwy'n deall bod yna ateb nawr, bod yna lythyr wedi mynd at Gadeirydd y pwyllgor sydd yn cadarnhau bod Cymru Creadigol yn cael ei lansio ar 29 -
English: And you're all invited to attend, not just the Chair.
Welsh: Ac mae gwahoddiad ichi gyd i ddod, nid jest y Cadeirydd.
English: As long as we're not all in the Senedd at the time, we will all be there. It's on a Wednesday evening.
Welsh: Os byddwn ni'n gallu peidio â bod yn y Senedd ar yr un pryd, byddwn ni i gyd oll yno. Mae e ar nos Fercher -
English: It's on a Wednesday, is it?
Welsh: Ai nos Fercher yw e?
English: One of the things I have to ask, of course, is that it took over a year to reach this particular situation. What was the reason for the time that it took?
Welsh: Un o'r pethau mae'n rhaid i fi eu gofyn, wrth gwrs, yw - halodd e dros flwyddyn i gyrraedd y sefyllfa hon. Beth oedd y rheswm am yr amser a gymerodd e?
English: Well, the Westminster general election wasn't a great help, because there was a period of two months when we couldn't act publicly. But we have been taking action internally, and Gerwyn Evans was appointed to be responsible for Creative Wales, and I have a huge level of trust in him, given his great success in working with me in tourism before he took responsibility for Creative Wales. We have also made progress internally, and perhaps Jason can say a few words about this, in terms of the process of ensuring that we do have qualified staff in place to work with Gerwyn in the role of deputy director, although it is a directorship to all intents and purposes, with Creative Wales. So, we will be moving forward, and I do hope that by the launch at the end of this month, we will be in a position to advertise the posts of chair and board members, and to do just as we did with Cadw: to advertise them simultaneously in the hope that we can get qualified individuals in place, and I know that there are qualified individuals who are eager to be part of this exciting body.
Welsh: Wel, doedd etholiad cyffredinol San Steffan ddim yn help, oherwydd roedd yna gyfnod o ddau fis pan oeddem ni'n methu â gweithredu'n gyhoeddus. Ond roeddem ni wedi gallu gweithredu yn fewnol ac fe benodwyd Gerwyn Evans i fod yn gyfrifol am Cymru Creadigol, ac mae gen i ymddiriedaeth mawr ynddo fo ar sail ei lwyddiant arbennig yn cydweithio â fi ym maes twristiaeth cyn iddo fo gymryd cyfrifoldeb am Cymru Creadigol. Rydyn ni hefyd wedi symud ymlaen yn fewnol, ac efallai y gall Jason ddweud rhyw gymaint am hyn wrthych chi, ynglŷn â'r broses o sicrhau bod gyda ni staff cymwys i weithio gyda Gerwyn yn y teitl o ddirprwy gyfarwyddwr, er cyfarwyddwr ydy'r swydd, wrth gwrs, gyda Cymru Creadigol. Ac felly, mi fyddwn ni'n symud ymlaen a dwi'n gobeithio, erbyn y lawnsiad ddiwedd y mis yma, y byddwn ni mewn sefyllfa i hysbysebu'r swyddi o gadeirydd ac aelodau'r bwrdd a'i gwneud yn union fel wnaethom ni gyda Cadw: eu hysbysebu nhw ar yr un pryd yn y gobaith y gallwn ni gael pobl cymwys, a dwi'n gwybod bod yna bobl cymwys sydd yn awyddus iawn i fod yn rhan o'r corff cynhyrfus yma.
English: And the final question from me: in the same committee meeting, you spoke about the budget for Creative Wales, and you said at that time that there would be a clear budget within the department of around £30 million. If we look at this draft budget, of course, £7.7 million is the budget, looking at the capital and revenue. So it's nowhere near the £30 million. Is there a reason for that? Is that figure correct, first of all? Secondly, of course there are financial reasons, I understand that, but are there any other reasons?
Welsh: A'r cwestiwn diwethaf, felly, wrthyf fi: yn yr un pwyllgor, fe wnaethoch chi sôn am gyllideb Cymru Creadigol, ac fe ddywedoch chi ar y pryd y byddai cyllideb glir yn yr adran o tua £30 miliwn. Os edrychwn ni ar y gyllideb ddrafft hon, felly, £7.7 miliwn yw'r gyllideb, wrth edrych ar y gyllideb gyfalaf a refeniw. So felly, dim yn agos i'r £30 miliwn. Oes yna reswm am hwnna? Yn gyntaf, ydy'r ffigyrau yn iawn, ond yn ail, oes yna reswm? Wrth gwrs, mae yna resymau ariannol, rwy'n deall hynny fy hun, ond oes yna unrhyw resymau eraill o gwbl?
English: I'm sure that there could have been further questions asked, but we are short of time because we do have another scrutiny session, so we will be writing to you if we have any questions, if that's okay with you. But, thank you very much to you for joining us today. Thank you. We'll take a short break of five minutes if that's okay with Members. Thank you.
Welsh: Dwi'n siŵr byddai mwy o gwestiynau wedi gallu dod, ond dŷn ni'n brin o amser gan bod sesiwn sgrwtini arall gyda ni, felly byddwn ni'n ysgrifennu atoch chi os oes mwy o gwestiynau, os yw hynny'n iawn gyda chi. Ond diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am ddod atom ni heddiw. Diolch. Byddwn ni'n cymryd seibiant o bum munud os yw hynny'n iawn i Aelodau. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
English: Thank you and welcome back to the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee. We move now to item 3 on the agenda, which is scrutiny of the Welsh Government's draft budget for the financial year 2020-21. This session is with the Minister for International Relations and the Welsh Language. So, welcome to Eluned Morgan and also welcome to Bethan Webb, who is deputy director for the Welsh language. Happy new year; it feels as though the year has long since started, but happy new year anyway. We are, as usual, as you know, going to ask questions on specific themes and other Members will come in in due course, but just in terms of a first question from me, in terms of setting out the agenda for the budget, we've heard a great deal of concern from a number of people that the settlement for the Welsh language budget is flat and that it's less than inflation and less than the relative increase in the budget in general, and much less than the increase of 21.8 per cent for your department in general, Minister. Can you explain why that is, and why there is less investment in this field particularly?
Welsh: Diolch a chroeso yn ôl i Bwyllgor Diwylliant, y Gymraeg a Chyfathrebu. Rydym yn symud ymlaen yn awr at eitem 3 ar yr agenda, sef craffu ar gyllideb ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru ar gyfer y flwyddyn 2020-21, gyda Gweinidog y Gymraeg a Chysylltiadau Rhyngwladol. Felly, croeso i Eluned Morgan a hefyd croeso i Bethan Webb, sef dirprwy gyfarwyddwr y Gymraeg. Blwyddyn newydd dda; rwy'n teimlo fel tasai'r flwyddyn wedi cychwyn yn barod, ond blwyddyn newydd dda ta beth. Dŷn ni fel arfer, fel dŷch chi'n gwybod, yn mynd i ofyn cwestiynau ar sail themâu gwahanol. Bydd Aelodau Cynulliad eraill yn dod i mewn maes o law. Jest o ran cwestiwn cyntaf gen i, felly, o ran gosod yr agenda o ran y gyllideb, dŷn ni wedi cael cryn gonsyrn gan nifer o bobl bod y setliad ar gyfer cyllideb y Gymraeg yn un fflat a'i fod yn llai na chwyddiant ac yn llai na'r cynnydd cyfartalog yn y gyllideb yn gyffredinol, ac yn llawer llai na'r cynnydd o 21.8 y cant i'ch adran chi yn gyffredinol, Gweinidog. A ydych chi'n gallu esbonio pam felly mae yna lai o fuddsoddiad yn y maes yma'n benodol?
English: I think it's important that we highlight that it isn't a reduction - it's remaining consistent. But one of the main things that we are doing within the Welsh language department is mainstreaming the Welsh language, and therefore, you shouldn't look at this budget in isolation in terms of the funding spent on the Welsh language. That is spent across Government. If you look at all sorts of different things, particularly if you look, for example, at the capital funding into the development of schools last year, an additional £45 million had been introduced that directly assisted the Welsh language. So, just focusing on these budget lines would be a mistake in my view.
Welsh: Dwi'n meddwl ei fod yn bwysig i danlinellu bod yna ddim llai - mae'n cadw'n gyson. Ond un o'r prif bethau rŷm ni'n trio ei wneud yn yr adran Gymraeg nawr yw sicrhau ein bod ni'n prif ffrydio'r Gymraeg, ac felly dylech chi ddim edrych ar y gyllideb yma jest fel un rhan o'r arian sy'n mynd ar y Gymraeg. Mae hwn yn mynd ar draws y Llywodraeth yn gyffredinol. Os ydych chi'n edrych ar bob math o bethau, yn arbennig os ydych chi'n edrych, er enghraifft, ar yr arian cyfalaf a aeth i mewn i ddatblygu ysgolion y flwyddyn ddiwethaf, roedd £45 miliwn ychwanegol wedi dod i mewn a oedd yn uniongyrchol yn helpu'r Gymraeg. Felly, byddai jest ffocysu ar y llinellau yma, rwy'n meddwl, yn gamgymeriad.
English: Okay, thank you for that, but I think we've heard again from Cymdeithas yr Iaith, which has said that the Welsh Government doesn't consider the Welsh language a sufficient priority and that there needs to be a real-terms increase to move spending levels towards those seen in the Basque Country. I acknowledge what you say in terms of mainstreaming, but do you agree with what Cymdeithas yr Iaith say in terms of priorities in this budget specifically - that they could have been greater?
Welsh: Ocê, diolch am hynny, ond rwy'n credu ein bod ni wedi clywed eto gan Gymdeithas yr Iaith - maen nhw wedi dweud bod Llywodraeth Cymru ddim yn gweld y Gymraeg yn ddigon o flaenoriaeth a bod angen cynnydd mewn termau real i symud lefelau gwariant tuag at y rhai a welir yng Ngwlad y Basg. Rwy'n cydnabod beth rŷch chi'n ei ddweud o ran prif ffrydio, ond ydych chi'n cytuno â'r hyn y maen nhw'n ei ddweud o ran y blaenoriaethau yn y gyllideb yma yn benodol, y gallent fod wedi bod yn uwch?
English: I do think that you have to look across Government. If you look at what we're doing in health, for example, you will have seen a substantial increase in the funds provided to health and you will now see that language standards are being applied in health. So, a lot more of the Welsh language will be seen in those areas. And, of course, that funding and that additional work isn't reflected in this particular budget. So, I do think it's important that people - Cymdeithas yr Iaith and others - do understand that the situation is a lot more complex than simply looking at these budget lines.
Welsh: Dwi yn meddwl bod yn rhaid ichi edrych ar draws y Llywodraeth, fel rwy'n ei ddweud. Os ydych chi'n edrych ar beth rŷm ni'n ei wneud, er enghraifft, yn y maes iechyd hefyd, rŷch chi wedi gweld cynnydd sylweddol yn yr arian sy'n mynd i iechyd a rŷch chi wedi gweld nawr bod safonau iaith yn dod i mewn i'r adran iechyd. Felly, bydd yna lot fwy o Gymraeg yn cael ei gweld yn yr adrannau yna. Ac, wrth gwrs, dyw'r arian a'r gwaith ychwanegol yna ddim yn mynd i gael eu hadlewyrchu yn y gyllideb yma. Felly, dwi yn meddwl ei fod yn bwysig bod pobl - Cymdeithas yr Iaith a phobl eraill - yn deall bod y sefyllfa'n lot fwy cymhleth na jest edrych ar y llinellau yma.
English: So, you would disagree that you're not making the Welsh language a priority because you're mainstreaming the language and you're confident that other departments of Government are doing that work of mainstreaming.
Welsh: Felly, byddech chi'n anghytuno, felly, eich bod chi ddim yn rhoi'r flaenoriaeth, oherwydd y ffaith eich bod chi'n prif ffrydio a'ch bod chi'n hyderus bod adrannau eraill y Llywodraeth yn gwneud y gwaith hwnnw o brif ffrydio.
English: I do think that that is happening, and of course, we are eager to ensure that more of it happens. On occasion, our aim is to lead to try and push some of the other departments into doing things and then withdrawing the budgets that we're using and getting them to use their own budgets. So, that's part of our strategy. For example, with the new helpline, which is about to be launched, we are providing funding, yes, but in the longer term we hope that the economy department will take the reins in that particular area.
Welsh: Dwi yn meddwl bod hynny'n digwydd, ac wrth gwrs rŷm ni'n awyddus bod mwy o hynny'n digwydd. Ambell waith, ein nod ni yw arwain i geisio gwthio rhai o'r adrannau i mewn i wneud pethau ac wedyn tynnu nôl o ran y cyllidebau rŷm ni'n eu defnyddio a'u cael nhw i ddefnyddio eu cyllidebau eu hunain. Felly, mae hynny'n rhan o'r strategaeth rŷm ni'n ei ddefnyddio. Er enghraifft, gyda'r llinell gyswllt newydd, sydd ar fin cael ei lansio, rŷm ni'n rhoi arian i mewn, ond yn y tymor hir rŷm ni'n gobeithio y bydd adran yr economi yn cymryd yr awenau yn y maes yna.
English: Thank you. Good morning. I'm just going to ask some questions about the allocations from the budget and the relationship with the 'Cymraeg 2050' strategy - I don't know exactly how we should be pronouncing that title, but I'll say '2050'. Do you believe that the allocations are sufficient for you as a Government to achieve the milestones this year for that strategy?
Welsh: Diolch. Bore da. Rwy'n mynd i ofyn rhai cwestiynau ynglŷn â dyraniadau'r gyllideb a'r berthynas gyda strategaeth 'Cymraeg 2050' - dwi ddim yn siŵr sut dylwn i fod yn ynganu hwnna, ond '2050' wna i ddweud. Ydych chi'n meddwl bod y dyraniadau'n ddigonol i chi fel Llywodraeth i gyflawni'r cerrig milltir eleni ar gyfer y strategaeth yna?
English: Thank you for that. Sorry, did you want to say anything?
Welsh: Ocê, diolch am hynny. Ydych chi - ? Sori, ydych chi eisiau dweud rhywbeth?
English: Okay. You've already referred, for example, to the education department, and clearly, different departments - . The Welsh language is going to dovetail with every department, indeed, of Government. How much influence do you have in terms of how the budgets of other departments, such as education - ? In terms of the allocations, how much influence do you have, and is it sufficient?
Welsh: Ocê. Rŷch chi wedi cyfeirio'n barod at, er enghraifft, yr adran addysg, ac, yn amlwg, bydd nifer fawr iawn o adrannau gwahanol - . Mae'r Gymraeg yn mynd i blethu i mewn i sawl - wel, pob - adran yn y Llywodraeth. Faint o ddylanwad sydd gennych chi o ran sut mae cyllidebau'r adrannau eraill, fel addysg - ? O ran yr allocations, faint o ddylanwad sydd gennych chi? Ydych chi'n meddwl bod hynny'n ddigonol?
English: I meet the education Minister on a monthly basis, and we do have an agenda that we go through, so, if there is anything specific that arises, then we discuss that. So, we're on the same page, and I think there is an understanding that we need to do a lot more in certain areas. The fact that we have looked at the WESPs and that we now have a programme for the longer term is of great assistance. One of the things concerns me and the education Minister is how we get enough teachers in place to teach through the medium of Welsh. There are now 10 points that we have put in place in order to see what we can do to expand the number of teachers who are trained through the medium of Welsh. So, we are doing all sorts of different things in collaboration. So, certainly, in terms of work with the education Minister, we are working very closely indeed. But not just the education Minister, of course - one of the things that concerns me is the use of the Welsh language in our heartland areas, and how we encourage young people to remain in those heartlands or to return to them. So, I have been working with the Deputy Minister for the economy to consider how we can do more to ensure that there are jobs available in those areas so that we can encourage Welsh speakers to remain or to return to those areas.
Welsh: So, dwi'n cwrdd â'r Gweinidog Addysg yn fisol, ac mae gyda ni agenda rŷn ni'n mynd drwyddi, felly os oes rhywbeth penodol yn dod i fyny, rŷn ni'n trafod hynny. So, rŷn ni ar yr un dudalen, a dwi'n meddwl bod yna ddealltwriaeth bod yn rhaid i ni wneud lot mwy mewn rhai meysydd. Mae'r ffaith ein bod ni wedi edrych ar y WESPs a'n bod ni wedi cael cynllun nawr ar gyfer y tymor hir yn helpu lot. Un o'r pethau sy'n fy ngofidio i a'r Gweinidog Addysg yw sut rŷn ni'n cael digon o athrawon i ddysgu drwy gyfrwng y Gymraeg. Mae yna nawr 10 o bwyntiau rŷn ni wedi'u rhoi mewn lle i weld beth allwn ni ei wneud i ehangu nifer yr athrawon sy'n cael eu hyfforddi drwy gyfrwng y Gymraeg. Felly, rŷn ni'n gwneud pob math o bethau i helpu i gydweithredu. Felly, yn sicr, o ran y Gweinidog Addysg, rŷn ni'n cydweithredu'n agos iawn. Ond nid jest y Gweinidog Addysg - un o'r pethau sy'n fy mhoeni i yw'r defnydd o'r Gymraeg yn ein cadarnleoedd ni, a sut rydyn ni'n cael pobl ifanc i beidio â gadael neu i ddod yn ôl i'n cadarnleoedd ni. Felly, dwi wedi bod yn gwneud gwaith gyda Dirprwy Weinidog yr economi i edrych ar sut allwn ni wneud mwy i sicrhau bod gwaith ar gael yn ein cadarnleoedd ni fel ein bod ni'n gallu cadw pobl sy'n medru'r Gymraeg yn yr ardaloedd yna.
English: Thank you for that. Do you think, in terms of the co-ordination that happens between the different departments, or between you and the different Ministers, that that should be done on a more structured footing, or is it already a structural process that happens, or does it happen on an ad hoc basis as things arise?
Welsh: Diolch am hynny. Ydych chi'n meddwl - ? O ran y cydlynu sy'n digwydd rhwng yr adrannau gwahanol, neu rhyngoch chi a'r Gweinidogion gwahanol, ydych chi'n meddwl y dylai hynny fod ar fwy o footing strwythurol, neu ydy e'n barod yn broses strwythurol sy'n digwydd, neu ydy e'n digwydd mwy ar hap pan fo pethau'n codi, buasech chi'n ei ddweud?
English: Well, you have to bear in mind that anyone who develops policy within the Welsh Government has to comply with the well-being of future generations Act, and, within that, the Welsh language is a key component. So, every department should be doing this in a structured manner. But, of course, one of the things that we're going to do differently this year is that we're going to start Prosiect 2050, which, hopefully, will ensure that we provide language planning across Government in a more strategic manner. So, that is a shift that will be introduced, hopefully, at the beginning of the next financial year.
Welsh: Mae'n rhaid i chi gofio bod yn rhaid i bob un sy'n datblygu polisi yn Llywodraeth Cymru nawr - mae'n rhaid iddyn nhw gydymffurfio â'r well-being of future generations Act, ac, o fewn hynny, mae'r Gymraeg yn rhan hanfodol o hynny. Felly, mi ddylai pob adran fod yn gwneud hyn mewn ffordd strwythurol, ond, wrth gwrs, un o'r pethau rŷn ni'n mynd i'w wneud yn wahanol eleni yw ein bod ni'n mynd i ddechrau Prosiect 2050, sydd yn mynd i, rŷn ni'n gobeithio, sicrhau ein bod ni'n cynllunio yn ieithyddol ar draws y Llywodraeth mewn ffordd fwy strategol. Felly, mae hynny'n newid fydd yn dod i mewn, gobeithio, gyda dechrau'r flwyddyn ariannol newydd.
English: Thank you for that. Finally from me, in terms of the general budget that we have, are you content that that is working towards the aim behind the strategy at present, in terms of responding to the different milestones? Are you content with how the budget in general looks at that?
Welsh: Diolch am hynny. Yn olaf gennyf i, o ran y gyllideb gyffredinol sydd gennym ni, ydych chi'n hapus bod hynny yn gweithio tuag at gyflawni'r nod sydd y tu ôl i'r strategaeth ar hyn o bryd, o ran ateb y cerrig milltir gwahanol? A ydych chi'n hapus gyda'r ffordd mae'r gyllideb yn gyffredinol yn edrych ar hynny?
English: One of the things I've done this year is to really start to look at baseline budgeting - are we doing the right things in terms of our aims and objectives? I did have a meeting with the partnership council to ask them for their views as to whether we are spending the money in the right places at the moment. This is a process, and I am eager to ensure that we continue with the process, but I also think it's important that we don't simply look at how much goes into the system but what the outcomes and the outputs are, and that is something that we must ensure that we are focused on.
Welsh: So, un o'r pethau dwi wedi eu gwneud eleni yw rili dechrau edrych ar baseline budgeting - ydyn ni'n gwneud y peth cywir o ran beth yw'n nodau ni? Mi wnes i gael cyfarfod gyda'r cyngor partneriaeth i ofyn iddyn nhw am eu barn nhw a ydyn ni'n gwario'r arian yn y llefydd cywir ar hyn o bryd. Mae hon yn broses dwi'n awyddus i sicrhau ein bod ni'n parhau â hi, ond dwi yn meddwl mai beth sy'n bwysig hefyd yw ein bod ni ddim jest yn edrych ar faint sy'n mynd mewn i'r system ond beth sy'n dod allan o'r system, ac mae hynny'n rhywbeth y mae'n rhaid inni sicrhau ein bod ni'n canolbwyntio arno hefyd.
English: Can I just ask a quick supplementary question in terms of the milestones? They appear to be relatively small increases, from 10 per cent to 11 per cent in terms of using the language, and then maintaining the increase in the percentage of learners in Welsh-medium education from 22 to 24 per cent. Is there scope for you to have allocated further funding for those milestones to achieve higher percentages more quickly, or had you undertaken an assessment that this is what was realistic in terms of the timescale in front of you?
Welsh: A allaf jest ofyn cwestiwn ychwanegol cyflym, os yw'n iawn, o ran y cerrig milltir? Maen nhw i weld yn gynyddiadau gweddol fychan, o 10 y cant i 11 y cant o ran defnyddio'r iaith, ac wedyn o ran cadw'r cynnydd yng nghanran y dysgwyr a fydd mewn addysg cyfrwng Cymraeg o 22 y cant i 24 y cant. Oes yna sgôp i chi fod wedi gallu rhoi mwy o arian ar gyfer y cerrig milltir hynny er mwyn cyrraedd canrannau uwch yn gyflymach, neu a oeddech chi wedi gwneud asesiad mai hyn oedd yn realistig ar gyfer yr amseroedd oedd o'ch blaen chi?
English: Well, we've made it clear from the outset that in these early years what's important is that we put the structures in place so that we can ultimately reach our targets. So, ensuring that the foundations are right has been crucial, and we have focused on that. That is why the milestones at the outset aren't quite as ambitious as you may want to see. Do you want to add anything to that?
Welsh: Wel, dwi'n meddwl ein bod ni wedi dweud yn glir o'r dechrau bod y blynyddoedd cynnar yma - beth sy'n bwysig yw ein bod ni'n rhoi'r strwythurau yn eu lle fel ein bod ni'n gallu cyrraedd y nod yn y pen draw. Felly, mae cael y cynsail yn iawn wedi bod yn hanfodol, ac rŷn ni yn canolbwyntio ar hynny. Dyna pam dyw'r nod ar y dechrau, efallai, ddim cweit mor uchelgeisiol ag y byddech chi'n hoffi ei weld. Wyt ti eisiau ychwanegu at hynny?
English: Yes, in terms of the WESPs, certainly, they are realistic because it takes a great deal of time to establish a new school, because you have to go through the statutory processes. So, perhaps 2 per cent looks relatively small, but it's based on one school year, which is age seven. So, the growth is hundreds of children, so that's a number of classes.
Welsh: Ie. O ran y WESPs, yn sicr, maen nhw yn realistig achos mae'n cymryd eithaf lot o amser i sefydlu ysgol newydd, achos mae'n rhaid mynd drwy'r prosesau statudol. So, efallai bod 2 y cant yn edrych yn fach, ond mae e wedi'i seilio ar un flwyddyn ysgol, sef saith oed. Felly, mae'r twf yn gannoedd o blant, felly mae hynny'n nifer o ddosbarthiadau.
English: Okay. It's just that when you look at the percentages, they seem very small -
Welsh: Ocê, jest pan ŷch chi'n edrych ar y canrannau, maen nhw'n edrych yn eithaf bach -
English: The percentages look low.
Welsh: Mae'r canrannau'n edrych yn isel.