English: I'm a member of the committee and I found the scrutiny process productive and collegiate, as other members of the committee have said today. I'd like to concentrate my remarks on two areas: smoking and the provision of public toilets. I welcome the extension of protection from smoking, particularly for children, that is in the Bill. I think those are absolutely crucial steps forward, and other Members have already referred to recommendation 3, which is absolutely key to enable smoking restrictions to be extended to early years childcare educational settings. It's very pleasing that the Minister has said that that is something that she intends to do. I'd also like to draw attention to recommendation 5, which recommends 'that the Minister works with Local Health Boards to ensure smoking cessation support and advice is promoted extensively in healthcare settings' and, this should be particularly emphasised, in 'external smoking areas where these are provided.' I do think that that is the opportunity, when people are in health service settings, to very strongly promote advice and help for smoking cessation. I think that we felt in the discussions in the committee that this is something that could be done to a much greater extent. There is also the issue, of course, of staff who are in healthcare settings, because we do know a considerable number of healthcare staff do smoke, and so I think every effort should be made to offer opportunities to them. I think that, in the Bill, it leaves it up to the local health boards to decide, or the local hospitals to decide, whether they do have smoking shelters on their grounds, and it is quite a difficult decision, this, for the hospitals to make. Certainly, in my own constituency, Velindre hospital has no smoking at all in the hospital or in the grounds and doesn't have a shelter. I understand absolutely why that is the case, because it is a cancer hospital, it sees the terrible danger that smoking causes and it is saying 'no' to smoking on its grounds. But it does cause a problem for people who are living beyond the hospital grounds. For example, a constituent has contacted me saying, 'On a daily basis, as a result of the smoking ban there is a steady and continuous stream of hospital staff, visitors and patients who congregate outside our houseto smoke. 'Cigarette butts are consistently discarded in our garden which is distressing. There is also a fire riskOn a number of occasionspatients and visitors have even sat on the wall of my garden and smoked. For my children therefore, smoking is very much a 'normal' part of everyday life.' So, although I do support the decision of Velindre hospital, which has tried very hard to stop patients, visitors and staff from going outside and smoking on people's grounds, we have to look at the consequences of this. Where hospitals do provide an area for people to smoke in the grounds, I think the committee felt that we should make absolutely every effort to give advice in those shelters about where help can be obtained and that it is a place where people are there as a captive audience. So, I think this is something we've got to look at very carefully. I also want to raise concerns about the provision of public toilets. I've recently campaigned on this issue with an 82 year-old constituent after the last public toilet in Whitchurch was closed. I think we've already heard how important public toilets are for the public. But I do feel that this is a step forward, and I do think that there are suggestions in this public health Bill that will improve the situation for access to public toilets for the general public. Obviously, if money was no object, we could go a lot further, we could build public toilets and we could make sure that they were well maintained. I think that would be the ideal, but we're just not in that situation. So, I think it's a bit churlish, really, to say that there's absolute disappointment that this Bill is not doing anything, because I do think it is making some very sensible suggestions. For example, the proposal that public toilets in all public buildings could be accessible for the public - I think that is a very positive step forward, because, in most areas, there is one public building or another. I went, at lunchtime, to the opening of the new Llandaff North hub, which is the old library and the day centre coming together to provide a hub of facilities for the area, and they've got toilets in the hub, and I think that we need to have a notice on the door, which I'm sure we will have, to say these toilets are available for the public, regardless of whether you're going in to use the hub in any other way or not.
Welsh: Rwy'n aelod o'r pwyllgor ac roeddwn yn ystyried y broses graffu yn gynhyrchiol a cholegol, fel y dywedodd aelodau eraill y pwyllgor heddiw. Hoffwn ganolbwyntio fy sylwadau i ar ddau faes: smygu a darparu tai bach cyhoeddus. Rwy'n croesawu ymestyn y diogelwch rhag smygu sydd yn y Bil, yn enwedig i blant. Rwy'n credu bod y rhain yn gamau ymlaen sy'n gwbl hanfodol, ac mae Aelodau eraill eisoes wedi cyfeirio at argymhelliad 3, sy'n gwbl allweddol i alluogi cyfyngiadau ar smygu i gael eu hymestyn i leoliadau addysgol gofal plant blynyddoedd cynnar. Mae'n braf iawn bod y Gweinidog wedi dweud bod hynny'n rhywbeth y mae'n bwriadu ei wneud. Hoffwn hefyd dynnu sylw at argymhelliad 5, sy'n argymell bod y Gweinidog yn gweithio gyda Byrddau Iechyd Lleol i sicrhau bod cymorth a chyngor ar roi'r gorau i smygu yn cael eu hyrwyddo'n helaeth mewn lleoliadau gofal iechyd ac y dylai hyn gael ei bwysleisio yn arbennig, mewn ardaloedd smygu allanol lle mae'r rhain yn cael eu darparu. Rwy'n credu mai dyna'r cyfle, pan fydd pobl mewn lleoliadau gwasanaeth iechyd, i hyrwyddo cyngor a chymorth yn gryf iawn i roi'r gorau i smygu. Rwy'n credu ein bod yn teimlo yn y trafodaethau yn y pwyllgor fod hyn yn rhywbeth y gellid ei wneud i raddau llawer mwy. Hefyd, wrth gwrs, ceir problem staff sydd mewn lleoliadau gofal iechyd. Rydym yn gwybod bod nifer sylweddol o staff gofal iechyd yn smygu, ac felly rwy'n meddwl y dylid gwneud pob ymdrech i gynnig cyfleoedd iddynt. Credaf, yn y Bil, mai'r byrddau iechyd lleol sydd i benderfynu, neu'r ysbytai lleol sydd i benderfynu, a oes ganddynt lochesi smygu ar eu tir. Mae hwn yn benderfyniad eithaf anodd i'r ysbytai ei wneud. Yn sicr, yn fy etholaeth i fy hun, ni chaiff unrhyw un smygu o gwbl yn Ysbyty Felindre, nac ar dir yr ysbyty, ac nid oes ganddo loches i smygu. Gallaf ddeall yn iawn pam, gan ei fod yn ysbyty canser, mae'n gweld y perygl ofnadwy y mae smygu yn ei achosi ac mae'n dweud 'na' i smygu ar ei dir. Ond mae'n achosi problem i bobl sy'n byw y tu hwnt i dir yr ysbyty. Er enghraifft, mae etholwr wedi cysylltu â mi gan ddweud, O ddydd i ddydd, yn sgil y gwaharddiad ar smygu, mae llif cyson a pharhaus o staff, ymwelwyr a chleifion yr ysbyty sy'n ymgynnull y tu allan i'n tŷ ni i smygu. Mae stympiau sigaréts yn cael eu taflu yn gyson yn ein gardd ac mae hyn yn peri gofid. Mae hefyd risg tân Ar sawl achlysur mae cleifion ac ymwelwyr wedi eistedd ar wal fy ngardd hyd yn oed a smygu. I fy mhlant i, felly, mae smygu yn sicr yn rhan 'arferol' o fywyd bob dydd. Felly, er fy mod yn cefnogi penderfyniad Ysbyty Felindre, sydd wedi ymdrechu'n galed iawn i atal cleifion, ymwelwyr a staff rhag mynd y tu allan a smygu ar dir pobl, mae'n rhaid i ni edrych ar ganlyniadau hyn. Lle mae ysbyty'n darparu ardal ar gyfer smygu i bobl ar y tir, rwy'n meddwl bod y pwyllgor yn teimlo y dylem wneud pob ymdrech i roi cyngor yn y llochesi hynny ar y ffynonellau cymorth sydd ar gael iddynt. Mae yno gynulleidfa barod. Felly, rwy'n credu bod hyn yn rhywbeth y mae'n rhaid i ni edrych arno yn ofalus iawn. Rwyf hefyd yn awyddus i godi pryderon am y ddarpariaeth o dai bach cyhoeddus. Rydw i wedi bod yn ymgyrchu yn ddiweddar ar y mater hwn gydag etholwr 82 mlwydd oed ar ôl i'r tŷ bach cyhoeddus olaf yn yr Eglwys Newydd gau. Rwy'n credu ein bod wedi clywed eisoes pa mor bwysig yw tai bach cyhoeddus i'r cyhoedd. Ond rwy'n teimlo bod hwn yn gam ymlaen, ac rwy'n credu bod awgrymiadau yn y Bil iechyd y cyhoedd a fydd yn gwella'r sefyllfa o ran mynediad i dai bach cyhoeddus ar gyfer y cyhoedd yn gyffredinol. Yn amlwg, os na fyddai arian yn broblem, gallem fynd yn llawer pellach, gallem adeiladu tai bach cyhoeddus a gallem wneud yn siŵr eu bod yn cael eu cynnal a'u cadw'n dda. Dyna fyddai'n ddelfrydol, ond nid ydym yn y sefyllfa honno. Felly, rwy'n credu y byddai'n anfoesgar, mewn gwirionedd, i ddweud bod siom anferthol nad yw'r Bil hwn yn gwneud unrhyw beth, gan fy mod yn credu ei fod yn gwneud rhywfaint o awgrymiadau synhwyrol iawn. Er enghraifft, y cynnig y gallai tai bach cyhoeddus ym mhob adeilad cyhoeddus fod yn hygyrch ar gyfer y cyhoedd - credaf fod hwnnw'n gam cadarnhaol iawn ymlaen, oherwydd, yn y rhan fwyaf o ardaloedd, mae yna o leiaf un adeilad cyhoeddus. Amser cinio, euthum i agoriad y ganolfan newydd yn Ystum Taf, sef yr hen lyfrgell a'r ganolfan ddydd yn dod at ei gilydd er mwyn creu canolfan o gyfleusterau ar gyfer yr ardal, ac mae ganddyn nhw dai bach yn y ganolfan. Rwy'n meddwl bod angen i ni gael hysbysiad ar y drws, ac rwy'n siŵr y bydd yna un, i ddweud bod y tai bach hyn ar gael at ddefnydd y cyhoedd, p'un a ydych yn defnyddio'r ganolfan mewn unrhyw ffordd neu beidio.