techiaith/cofnodycynulliad_en-cy huggingface dataset:
English: You're asking me this. Fine. I don't think - . Bear in mind that we're not talking about history as a subject under Professor Donaldson. In that report, we're talking about the humanities, and that includes geography, history, religious education, sociology, if I remember rightly, and economics. They're all intertwined. And, therefore, Donaldson doesn't provide a basis for teaching the history of Wales as such. It provides a basis to teach humanities. But I have taught humanities myself about 40 years ago, and I didn't find that I was succeeding to convey those subjects effectively, although primary school teachers very often do that in an excellent manner. So, I feel that Donaldson doesn't provide the guidance on how you integrate the local element and the Welsh element into the humanities. If you read that part of the report, there is no guidance on history at all, and that is a great deficiency, because this is one of the very controversial subjects in Wales, as we see from the response to Elfed's petition, and from the response to when I was consulting on this as well. It's not going to go away. It is part of the political discussion, and I think they've missed an opportunity when they were drawing up the Donaldson report not to provide much clearer guidance on this.
Welsh: Rydych chi'n gofyn hwn i fi. Siŵr. Nid wyf yn credu - . Cofiwch chi nawr, nid ydym ni'n siarad am hanes fel pwnc dim ragor o dan yr Athro Donaldson. Yn yr adroddiad yna, rydym ni'n siarad am y dyniaethau, ac mae hynny'n cynnwys daearyddiaeth, hanes, addysg grefyddol, cymdeithaseg, os rwy'n cofio'n iawn, ac economeg. Maen nhw wedi plethu mewn i'w gilydd. Felly, nid yw Donaldson yn gosod sylfaen o gwbl i ddysgu hanes Cymru fel y cyfryw. Mae e'n gosod sylfaen i ddysgu'r dyniaethau. Ond rwyf i wedi dysgu'r dyniaethau fy hunan rhyw 40 mlynedd yn ôl ac nid oeddwn i'n ffeindio fy mod i'n gallu llwyddo i gyfleu y pynciau yna'n effeithiol, er mae athrawon cynradd yn gwneud hynny yn wych yn aml iawn. Felly, rwy'n teimlo nad yw Donaldson yn rhoi arweiniad ar fel yr ŷch chi'n integreiddio'r elfen leol a'r elfen Gymreig i fewn i'r dyniaethau. Os darllenwch chi y rhan honno o'r adroddiad, nid oes arweiniad ar hanes o gwbl, ac mae hynny'n ddiffyg mawr yn yr adroddiad, oherwydd dyma un o destunau llosg Cymru ar hyn o bryd, fel yr ŷm ni'n gweld oddi wrth yr ymateb i ddeiseb Elfed, ac oddi wrth yr ymateb pan oeddwn i'n ymgynghori ar hwn hefyd. Nid yw'n mynd i ffwrdd. Mae e yn rhan o'r drafodaeth wleidyddol, ac rwy'n meddwl bod nhw wedi colli cyfle pan oedden nhw'n llunio adroddiad Donaldson i beidio â rhoi arweiniad llawer cliriach ynddo fe.
English: Well, I have nothing to add, really.
Welsh: Nid oes gen i ddim byd i'w ychwanegu, a dweud y gwir.
English: There we go. Thank you very much, Elfed.
Welsh: Dyna ni. Diolch yn fawr, Elfed.
English: I have no confidence in that at all - none at all. I have seen some of the work that's been done, and the teachers who are working on the curriculum at the moment, and the civil servants with them - they are doing their best. But without clear guidance, and without examples of good practice, and without evidence, they're in the dark, and I don't know whether they'll be any the wiser when they finish this in terms of how to teach history. There is no evidence that history has been taught as some of you clearly, and both of us certainly, feel that it should be taught. There's no evidence that that has been done under a curriculum that gave clear guidance. So, I'm not confident at all that the current developments, under a report that doesn't provide clear guidance, will be any better, unfortunately.
Welsh: Nid oes dim hyder gyda fi yn hynny o gwbl - dim o gwbl. Rwyf i wedi gweld peth o'r gwaith sydd yn cael ei wneud, ac mae'r athrawon sydd yn gweithio ar y cwricwlwm ar hyn o bryd, a'r gweision sifil sydd gyda nhw - maen nhw'n gwneud eu gorau. Ond heb arweiniad clir a phendant, heb enghreifftiau arfer da, heb dystiolaeth, maen nhw yn y tywyllwch, ac nid wyf i'n gwybod a fyddan nhw damaid callach pan fyddan nhw'n cwpla hwn o ran sut mae dysgu hanes. Nid oes tystiolaeth gyda ni bod hanes wedi cael ei ddysgu fel y mae rhai ohonoch chi yn amlwg, a ni'n dau yn sicr, yn teimlo dylai fe gael ei ddysgu. Nid oes tystiolaeth bod hynny wedi cael ei wneud o dan gwricwlwm oedd yn rhoi arweiniad clir. Felly, nid wyf i'n hyderus o gwbl y bydd y datblygiadau presennol, o dan adroddiad sydd ddim yn rhoi arweiniad clir, damaid yn well, gwaetha'r modd.
English: We need to reform the system again, I think, and to go further, but, again, I don't know how much time it's going to take. Perhaps it will take another 10 years. Maybe I'll be sitting here in 10 years' time, saying the same thing.
Welsh: Mae angen diwygio'r drefn eto, rwy'n meddwl, ac angen mynd yn bellach, ond, eto, nid ydw i'n gwybod faint o amser buasai hwnnw'n ei gymryd. Hwyrach, byddai'n cymryd rhyw 10 mlynedd arall. Hwyrach, y byddaf i'n eistedd yn fan yma mewn 10 mlynedd arall, yn ailadrodd yr un peth.
English: And legislating isn't always the answer. We've legislated for 30 years and we still think - . There are still complaints about what's happening, despite a specific curriculum.
Welsh: Ac nid yw deddfu'n ateb pethau. Rŷm ni wedi deddfu ers 30 mlynedd ac rydym ni'n dal i feddwl - . Mae dal cwynion am yr hyn sy'n digwydd, er gwaethaf cwricwlwm pendant.
English: So, what is there -
Welsh: Felly, beth sydd yna -
English: I feel that you need clearer leadership about the importance of history to the people of Wales. It's not a matter for a small group of extremists; there are a number of people across Wales - . I went out to public libraries to talk to people when I was preparing this report, and so many people told me, just as some of you have said, 'I didn't do Welsh history; I feel that I've missed out on something.' There is a need to acknowledge that from the Government and there is a need to provide much clearer leadership on the role of Welsh history in Wales. They need to find out what exactly is happening and why teachers aren't teaching the current curriculum in terms of local history and Welsh history, and why they avoid doing that. There is a need for evidence and then I feel that there needs to be clearer celebration from the Government of the good practice that exists. I've just come from a committee where we were discussing these annual awards and some of that work was fantastic. The schools were discussing their local history in a wider context, using the latest digital technology, and it was great.
Welsh: Rwy'n teimlo eich bod chi eisiau arweiniad cliriach a phendant amboutu pwysigrwydd hanes i bobl Cymru. Nid yw'n fater i grŵp bach o eithafwyr; mae nifer o bobl ledled Cymru - . Es i mas i lyfrgelloedd cyhoeddus i siarad gyda phobl pan oeddwn i'n paratoi'r adroddiad yma, ac roedd cymaint ohonyn nhw yn dweud, fel y mae rhai ohonoch chi wedi'i ddweud: 'Wnes i ddim hanes Cymru; rwy'n teimlo fy mod i wedi colli rhywbeth.' Mae eisiau cydnabod hynny gan y Llywodraeth ac mae eisiau iddyn nhw roi arweiniad llawer cliriach ar rôl hanes Cymru yng Nghymru. Mae eisiau iddyn nhw ffeindio mas beth yn union sy'n digwydd a pham nad yw athrawon yn dysgu'r cwricwlwm presennol o ran hanes Cymru a hanes lleol, a pham maen nhw'n osgoi gwneud hynny. Mae eisiau tystiolaeth ac wedyn rwy'n teimlo bod eisiau dathlu cliriach gan y Llywodraeth o'r arfer da sydd yna. Rwyf i newydd ddod o bwyllgor lle roeddem ni'n trafod y gwobrau blynyddol yma ac roedd peth o'r gwaith yr oedd yn cael ei wneud yn ffantastig. Roedd yr ysgolion yn trafod eu hanes lleol nhw mewn cyd-destun ehangach, gan ddefnyddio'r dechnoleg ddigidol ddiweddaraf, ac roedd e'n grêt.
English: When I was going around with this petition, I was collecting on paper and online, so I was sharing it online and just going around collecting names. I'd say that almost half the people we collected names from weren't nationalists - they were just people who were saying, 'I haven't learnt my own history.' I was talking to people in north Wales and, even in my own village, they didn't understand the history of Hedd Wyn properly. So, that was very disheartening.
Welsh: Pan oeddwn i'n mynd rownd efo'r ddeiseb, roeddwn i'n casglu ar bapur ac ar y we, felly roeddwn i'n ei rhannu ar y we a jest yn mynd rownd yn hel enwau. Buaswn i'n dweud bod dros hanner y bobl yr oeddwn i wedi casglu eu henwau nhw ddim yn genedlaetholwyr - roedden nhw jest yn bobl a oedd yn dweud, 'Nid ydw i wedi cael dysgu fy hanes fy hun.' Roeddwn i'n siarad â phobl o gwmpas ardaloedd y gogledd, ac, hyd yn oed pobl yn fy mhentref fy hun, nid oedden nhw hyd yn oed yn deall hanes Hedd Wyn yn iawn. Roedd hynny'n ddigalon.
English: Yes, fair play, but the older generation, unfortunately, didn't get - . I was surprised because they were saying, 'I still don't know what's happened in the Ysgwrn; there are so many developments and I don't know why. I see just it every morning; I still don't understand it'. That's why they were signing this petition. It's just been an eye-opener to the desire that people have to learn their own history and the importance of everyone being given the opportunity to know that. I want to thank Dafydd Thomas also and Anwen Jones - they were just two people who've been very active with this petition, so I just wanted to acknowledge them. And Siân Teleri Jones, my sister. I promised I'd say happy birthday to her, as well.
Welsh: Do, chwarae teg, ond y genhedlaeth hŷn, yn anffodus, oedd heb gael - . Roedd yn fy synnu i achos roedden nhw'n dweud, 'Dydw i'n dal ddim yn gwybod beth sydd wedi digwydd yn Yr Ysgwrn; mae yna lot o ddatblygiadau mawr ac nid ydw i'n gwybod pam. Rydw i jest yn ei weld e bob bore ac nid ydw i'n ei ddallt.' Dyna pam roedden nhw'n arwyddo'r ddeiseb yma wedyn. Mae jest yn agoriad llygad i'r awch sydd yna i wybod hanes ein hunain a'r pwysigrwydd sydd yna i bawb cael y cyfle i wybod hynny. Rydw i eisiau diolch hefyd i Dafydd Thomas ac Anwen Jones - dau a oedd wedi bod yn weithgar iawn efo'r ddeiseb, felly roeddwn i'n meddwl buaswn i jest yn eu cydnabod nhw. A Siân Teleri Jones, fy chwaer. Rydw i wedi gaddo ddweud pen-blwydd hapus iddi hi, gyda llaw.
English: Thank you very much. You're not going to be in her bad books, hopefully, after that. [ Laughter.]
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Nid wyt ti'n mynd i fod yn y bad books, gobeithio, ar ôl hynny. [ Chwerthin.]
English: He can go home tonight.
Welsh: Bydd e'n cael mynd tua thref heno.
English: It's an interesting point and I think politics does play into this. It will be interesting how the translation works on this, but you say that half of the people whom you spoke to weren't nationalists. There is a translation of ' cendlaetholwyr ', nationalists - it sounds a very different word in English to what it is in Welsh. To me, as a nationalist, Wales is my nation; Wales is my context. Nationalism means something else, and I'm worried that people are thinking about that in trying to keep the nation out of our history. At the end of the day, there is a need for political will across every party, whether they are nationalist parties or unionist parties, and I'm sure you'd agree.
Welsh: Mae o'n bwynt diddorol a rydw i'n meddwl bod yna wleidyddiaeth yn chwarae mewn i fan hyn. Bydd yn ddiddorol sut mae'r cyfieithiad i hwn yn gweithio, ond rwyt ti'n dweud bod hanner y bobl wnes ti siarad â nhw, nad oedden nhw'n genedlaetholwyr. Mae yna gyfieithiad i 'genedlaetholwyr' sy'n swnio'n air gwahanol iawn yn Saesneg nag ydy o yn Gymraeg. I fi, fel cenedlaetholwr, Cymru ydy fy nghenedl i; Cymru ydy fy nghyd-destun i. Mae cenedlaetholdeb yn golygu rhywbeth gwahanol, ond rydw i'n ofni fod pobl yn meddwl am hynny wrth drio cadw'r genedl allan o'n hanes ni. Ar ddiwedd y dydd, mae angen ewyllys gwleidyddol ar draws bob plaid, p'un ai a ydyn nhw'n bleidiau unolaethol neu genedlaetholgar wrth inni dyfu ein cenedl ni, ac rydw i'n siŵr y buasech chi'n cytuno.
English: Yes, and we need those historical skills too. I feel they're very important, otherwise we're teaching propaganda, and I don't want to do that at all.
Welsh: Oes, ac mae angen y sgiliau hanesyddol hefyd. Rwy'n teimlo eu bod nhw'n bwysig iawn neu, fel arall, rŷm ni'n dysgu propaganda ac nid ydw i eisiau gwneud hynny o gwbl.
English: We have to understand that history is something neutral. It's something that political parties can't argue over, because history is just something that's happened - it's just there to be interpreted; it's not a weapon.
Welsh: Mae'n rhaid i ni ddeall bod hanes yn rhywbeth niwtral. Fedrith pleidiau gwleidyddol ddim frwydro dros hanes, achos mae hanes yn rhywbeth sydd wedi digwydd - mae jest yno i gael ei ddehongli; nid yw fel arf.
English: I'd like to say thank you very much for bringing this petition forward. It's so important.
Welsh: Hoffwn i ddweud diolch o galon am wneud y deiseb. Mae mor bwysig.
English: And we have to remember the history of Wales, certainly. So, thank you very much.
Welsh: Ac mae'n rhaid inni gofio hanes Cymru, yn bendant. Wedyn, diolch.
English: Thank you very much. But keep it balanced - the good and the bad, remember, the good and the bad. And make it fun, make it interesting. Yes.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn ichi. Ond ei gofio fe'n iawn ac yn gytbwys - y drwg a'r da, cofiwch, y drwg a'r da. A'i bod hi'n hwyl, ei bod hi'n sbort, ei bod hi'n ddifyr. Ie.
English: Thank you. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Diolch yn fawr iawn ichi.
English: Thank you very much.
Welsh: Diolch o galon.
English: The first item on our agenda this afternoon is questions to the First Minister, and the first question is from Dawn Bowden.
Welsh: Yr eitem gyntaf ar ein hagenda'r prynhawn yma yw'r cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog, a'r cwestiwn cyntaf, Dawn Bowden.
English: Thank you, First Minister, and given that this is tourism week, it's probably timely to remind ourselves that tourism, culture, our environment and our heritage will play a major part in securing a successful future for our Valleys communities as they make a valuable contribution to securing a diverse economy alongside the traditional sectors like manufacturing, public services and now an ever stronger retail offer. With this in mind, can you assure me that the recent 'Crucible' report, published by the Design Commission for Wales, which provides us all with a big vision for the huge future potential for Merthyr Tydfil's industrial heritage, will receive a full and proper consideration by the Welsh Government in order that all partners can work together to drive forward this ambitious project, which has the potential to provide us with a major Valleys attraction that could be as successful as Titanic Belfast or even the Eden Project in Cornwall?
Welsh: Diolch, Prif Weinidog, ac o gofio ei bod hi'n wythnos twristiaeth, mae'n debyg ei bod hi'n amserol i atgoffa ein hunain y bydd twristiaeth, diwylliant, ein hamgylchedd a'n treftadaeth yn chwarae rhan bwysig o ran sicrhau dyfodol llwyddiannus i'n cymunedau yn y Cymoedd gan eu bod nhw'n gwneud cyfraniad gwerthfawr at sicrhau economi amrywiol ochr yn ochr â sectorau traddodiadol fel gweithgynhyrchu, gwasanaethau cyhoeddus a chynnig manwerthu cynyddol gryfach erbyn hyn. Gyda hyn mewn golwg, a allwch chi fy sicrhau y bydd adroddiad diweddar 'Crucible', a gyhoeddwyd gan Gomisiwn Dylunio Cymru, sy'n cyflwyno gweledigaeth fawr ar gyfer y potensial enfawr ar gyfer treftadaeth ddiwydiannol Merthyr Tudful yn y dyfodol, yn derbyn ystyriaeth lawn a phriodol gan Lywodraeth Cymru fel y gall yr holl bartneriaid weithio gyda'i gilydd i fwrw ymlaen â'r prosiect uchelgeisiol hwn, sydd â'r potensial i gynnig atyniad mawr i ni yn y Cymoedd a allai fod mor llwyddiannus â Titanic Belfast neu hyd yn oed yr Eden Project yng Nghernyw?
English: Well, I'm aware of the report. It does call for around £50 million to be spent on Merthyr's industrial past to make it a major tourist destination with the focus, of course, on Cyfarthfa castle. I do look forward to being kept up to date with progress on developing the offer that was set out in the report. I understand that you met recently with the Minister for Culture, Tourism and Sport to discuss the report, and that is something, of course, that will continue, no doubt, in the future. I know that officials are also working on a number of exciting private sector proposals that will continue to develop the offer in the area. So, a great deal of interest and, of course, a great deal to offer, as far as Merthyr and Rhymney are concerned.
Welsh: Wel, rwy'n ymwybodol o'r adroddiad. Mae yn galw am i tua £50 miliwn gael ei wario ar orffennol diwydiannol Merthyr i'w wneud yn atyniad mawr i dwristiaid gyda'r pwyslais, wrth gwrs, ar Gastell Cyfarthfa. Edrychaf ymlaen at dderbyn y wybodaeth ddiweddaraf am y cynnydd o ran datblygu'r cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn yr adroddiad. Rwy'n deall eich bod chi wedi cyfarfod yn ddiweddar gyda'r Gweinidog Diwylliant, Twristiaeth a Chwaraeon i drafod yr adroddiad, ac mae hynny'n rhywbeth, wrth gwrs, a fydd yn parhau, heb amheuaeth, yn y dyfodol. Gwn fod swyddogion hefyd yn gweithio ar nifer o gynigion sector preifat cyffrous a fydd yn parhau i ddatblygu'r cynnig yn yr ardal. Felly, llawer iawn o ddiddordeb ac, wrth gwrs, llawer iawn i'w gynnig, cyn belled ag y mae Merthyr Tudful a Rhymni yn y cwestiwn.
English: The report for the Design Commission for Wales has highlighted that there is a huge benefit that could be gained from the marketing of Merthyr Tydfil's industrial heritage, making the town a major tourist destination. Does the First Minister agree with me that a marketing strategy covering all industrial heritage sites of south Wales, including canals such as Monmouthshire and Brecon, has the potential of providing a massive boost to the tourism sector of our economy? Thank you.
Welsh: Mae'r adroddiad ar gyfer Comisiwn Dylunio Cymru wedi amlygu bod budd enfawr y gellid ei gael o farchnata treftadaeth ddiwydiannol Merthyr Tudful, gan droi'r dref yn gyrchfan dwristiaeth flaenllaw. A yw'r Prif Weinidog yn cytuno â mi bod gan strategaeth farchnata sy'n cynnwys holl safleoedd treftadaeth ddiwydiannol y de, gan gynnwys camlesi fel Mynwy ac Aberhonddu, y potensial i roi hwb enfawr i sector dwristiaeth ein heconomi? Diolch.
English: Yes, because I think what's important is that we link what Merthyr has to offer with other attractions in the area as well. So, the centrepiece of the 'Crucible' report is regenerating Cyfarthfa castle, but there are wider opportunities to bring together other local heritage landmarks, including, of course, the furnaces at Blaenavon, Big Pit and the National Waterfront Museum as well, and being able to offer a collection of experiences to potential tourists of high quality will be important in the future.
Welsh: Ydw, oherwydd rwy'n credu mai'r hyn sy'n bwysig yw ein bod ni'n cysylltu'r hyn sydd gan Merthyr i'w gynnig gydag atyniadau eraill yn yr ardal hefyd. Felly, canolbwynt adroddiad 'Crucible' yw adfywio castell Cyfarthfa, ond mae cyfleoedd ehangach i ddod â thirnodau treftadaeth leol eraill at ei gilydd, gan gynnwys, wrth gwrs, y ffwrneisi ym Mlaenafon, Big Pit ac Amgueddfa Genedlaethol y Glannau hefyd, a bydd gallu cynnig casgliad o brofiadau o ansawdd uchel i ddarpar ymwelwyr yn bwysig yn y dyfodol.
English: Well, via Sport Wales, we are providing over £570,000 this year to Newport City Council to support the development of sport in the area. The council has a contract with Newport Live to deliver a range of sport and physical activity programmes, allowing people of all ages to take part.
Welsh: Wel, drwy Chwaraeon Cymru, rydym ni'n darparu dros £570,000 eleni i Gyngor Dinas Casnewydd i gynorthwyo datblygiad chwaraeon yn yr ardal. Mae gan y cyngor gontract gyda Casnewydd Fyw i ddarparu amrywiaeth o raglenni chwaraeon ac ymarfer corff, gan alluogi pobl o bob oed i gymryd rhan.
English: Yes, First Minister, sport and fitness are obviously vital for health and general quality of life and, thankfully, Newport is building a strong reputation in terms of its activities and facilities. As you mentioned, Newport Live is the bedrock, really, of delivery in Newport with over 1.6 million participants at leisure facilities annually and they work in close partnership with Newport City Council and many other organisations to reach every community in the city. Soon, they will be on the public service board and they are very keen to support the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015. They also helped with the delivery of the recent Newport marathon and 10K, which saw several thousand runners on the route, including the vibrant riverfront and the wonderful Gwent levels. It was a great occasion for the city, First Minister, as I know you are aware, and it saw a really good turnout of local people in support. And the really good news is that there is almost a year to go before next year's event, which gives plenty of time for you and any others who may be considering participation to prepare. I'm sure, First Minister, you'll join me in recognising the sport and leisure activity in Newport at a scale that I think shows a good example to many others.
Welsh: Ydy, Prif Weinidog, mae chwaraeon a ffitrwydd yn amlwg yn hanfodol ar gyfer iechyd ac ansawdd bywyd cyffredinol, a diolch byth, mae Casnewydd yn datblygu enw da am ei weithgareddau a'i gyfleusterau. Fel y soniasoch, Casnewydd Fyw yw sylfaen, mewn gwirionedd, y ddarpariaeth yng Nghasnewydd gyda dros 1.6 miliwn o gyfranogwyr mewn cyfleusterau hamdden bob blwyddyn ac maen nhw'n gweithio mewn partneriaeth agos â Chyngor Dinas Casnewydd a llawer o sefydliadau eraill i gyrraedd pob cymuned yn y ddinas. Yn fuan, byddan nhw ar y bwrdd gwasanaethau cyhoeddus, ac maen nhw'n awyddus iawn i gefnogi Deddf Llesiant Cenedlaethau'r Dyfodol (Cymru) 2015. Fe wnaethant helpu hefyd gyda darpariaeth rasys marathon a 10 cilomedr diweddar Casnewydd, pryd yr oedd sawl mil o redwyr ar y ffordd, gan gynnwys ardal fywiog glan yr afon a gwastatiroedd godidog Gwent. Roedd yn achlysur gwych i'r ddinas, Prif Weinidog, fel y gwn eich bod yn ymwybodol, a chafwyd niferoedd da o bobl leol a ddaeth allan i gefnogi. A'r newyddion da iawn yw bod bron i flwyddyn i fynd cyn digwyddiad y flwyddyn nesaf, sy'n rhoi digon o amser i chi ac unrhyw un arall a allai fod yn ystyried cymryd rhan i baratoi. Rwy'n siŵr, Prif Weinidog, y gwnewch chi ymuno â mi i gydnabod y gweithgarwch chwaraeon a hamdden yng Nghasnewydd ar raddfa sy'n dangos esiampl dda i lawer o bobl eraill, yn fy marn i.