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English: We have heard from every party present in the Chamber today and we have run out of time, but there's an opportunity for the final speaker to ask a swift question, please - Jayne Bryant.
Welsh: Rydym wedi clywed gan bob plaid sy'n bresennol yn y Siambr heddiw ac rydym wedi rhedeg mas o amser, ond mae siawns i'r siaradwr olaf ofyn cwestiwn clou, os yn bosib - Jayne Bryant.
English: Thank you for your statement, Minister. I welcome your words and your genuine enthusiasm for our historic environment. Last week, I had the great privilege of joining you on a visit to the remarkable Newport transporter bridge, one of only six bridges still operating in the world today and the best transporter bridge in the world. I know we both had the privilege of driving the gondola across the river - something that I will truly remember. Along with Newport City Council, Friends of Newport Transporter Bridge and Heritage Lottery, I fully support the campaign to help secure the future of the bridge. Opened in 1906, it's a distinctive industrial landmark and a much-loved icon on Newport's skyline. It's a symbol of our proud industrial and maritime heritage -
Welsh: Diolch ichi am eich datganiad, Gweinidog. Rwy'n croesawu eich geiriau a'ch brwdfrydedd diffuant ar gyfer ein hamgylchedd hanesyddol. Yr wythnos diwethaf, cefais y fraint fawr o ymuno â chi ar ymweliad â phont gludo ryfeddol Casnewydd, un o ddim ond chwe phont yn y byd sy'n dal i weithredu heddiw a'r bont gludo orau yn y byd. Rwy'n gwybod bod y ddau ohonom wedi cael y fraint o yrru'r gondola ar draws yr afon - rhywbeth y byddaf wirioneddol yn ei gofio. Ynghyd â Chyngor Dinas Casnewydd, Cyfeillion Pont Gludo Casnewydd a Chronfa Dreftadaeth y Loteri, cefnogaf yn llwyr yr ymgyrch i helpu i sicrhau dyfodol y bont. Fe'i hagorwyd ym 1906 ac mae'n garreg filltir ddiwydiannol nodedig ac yn eicon a werthfawrogir yn fawr yng Nghasnewydd. Mae'n symbol o'n treftadaeth ddiwydiannol a morol balch -
English: Could I ask you to come to the question, please?
Welsh: A gaf i ofyn ichi ddod at y cwestiwn, os gwelwch yn dda?
English: My question is: does the Minister agree that more must be done to promote the unique heritage we have in south-east Wales, and not just to the tourists but to local residents and young people everywhere, so that they can enjoy and appreciate our historic sites?
Welsh: Fy nghwestiwn i yw: a yw'r Gweinidog yn cytuno bod yn rhaid gwneud mwy i hyrwyddo'r dreftadaeth unigryw sydd gennym yn y de-ddwyrain, nid yn unig i'r twristiaid ond i drigolion lleol a phobl ifanc ym mhob man, fel y gallant fwynhau a gwerthfawrogi ein safleoedd hanesyddol?
English: Thank you. It was great to be in Newport. I've spent probably more time in Newport than anywhere else, apart from my own patch, in the last few months. But thank you for driving the gondola so much better than the poor Minister. This was remarked upon - I won't mention the name, but, well, you know who it is that drives the bridge. That bridge is driven; it's not just an automatic thing, it's a proper living monument. So, to me - I think I said this to you on the day - I want to promote industrial heritage as the next phase of what I try and do in my role as Minister, as long as I have this opportunity. I think I've done castles, I've done a few abbeys and now I want to do industrial heritage in a much bigger way, and the Blaenavon visit the other day, the Big Pit visit, and various things - but the transporter bridge to me, if you'll allow me to borrow it, has to be our symbol, our icon of industrial heritage and what it means to us in Wales. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch. Roedd hi'n wych cael bod yng Nghasnewydd. Rwyf wedi treulio mwy o amser yng Nghasnewydd nag yn unman arall, fwy na thebyg, ar wahân i fy ardal i fy hun, yn yr ychydig fisoedd diwethaf. Ond diolch i chi am yrru'r gondola gymaint yn well na'r Gweinidog druan. Cafodd hyn sylw - wnaf i ddim sôn am yr enw, ond, wel, fe wyddoch pwy sy'n gweithio'r bont. Mae'r bont honno'n cael ei gweithio; nid yw'n rhywbeth awtomatig yn unig, mae'n heneb byw wirioneddol. Felly, i mi - credaf imi ddweud hyn wrthoch chi ar y diwrnod - rwyf eisiau hybu treftadaeth ddiwydiannol fel cam nesaf yr hyn y byddaf yn ceisio ei wneud yn fy swyddogaeth i fel Gweinidog, cyn belled ag y caf i'r cyfle hwn. Credaf fy mod wedi ymwneud â chestyll, rwyf wedi ymwneud rhywfaint ag ambell abaty, ac rwyf bellach eisiau ymwneud â threftadaeth ddiwydiannol mewn ffordd lawer mwy, yr ymweliad â Blaenafon y diwrnod o'r blaen, yr ymweliad â'r Big Pit ac amrywiol bethau - ond i mi, y bont gludo, os caniatewch imi gael ei fenthyg, yw ein symbol, hon yw eicon ein treftadaeth ddiwydiannol, a'r hyn y mae'n ei olygu i ni yng Nghymru. Diolch.
English: Welcome to the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee. Item 1 is introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest. Are there any declarations of interest this morning? We've had apologies from Jenny Rathbone and we're not expecting any substitutions today.
Welsh: Croeso i'r Pwyllgor Diwylliant, y Gymraeg a Chyfathrebu. Eitem 1 yw cyflwyniad, ymddiheuriadau, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau. A oes gan unrhyw un rywbeth i'w ddatgan y bore yma? Rydym wedi cael ymddiheuriadau gan Jenny Rathbone ond nid ydym ni'n disgwyl unrhyw ddirprwyon yma heddiw.
English: We move on to items 2 and 3 - we're combining the scrutiny on S4C and the annual scrutiny of BBC Cymru Wales, to flow conveniently between both themes. And we're looking first of all at Euryn Ogwen Williams's independent review, and then evidence session 4, as I said, on the annual scrutiny of the BBC. Welcome to the witnesses: Rhodri Talfan Davies, head of BBC Cymru Wales; Elan Closs Stephens, BBC board member for Wales; and Nick Andrews, head of commissioning. Thank you very much for giving us your time, as always, and for coming to committee. Our format is to ask questions on different themes, if that's okay with you, and then we'll have different Members to ask different questions. So, I'll start, with a question about S4C, and the independent review. There has been quite some discussion about the funding system that's come out of the review, and then a discussion around the funding model that's based on a plurality of funding sources. Do you still believe that it's important that there are two separate budgets funding S4C or do you think that you've changed your view? Are you content that everything is going through the licence, or not? What are your views now on that?
Welsh: Rydym ni'n symud ymlaen at eitemau 2 a 3 - rydym yn cyfuno sgrwtini ar S4C a gwaith craffu blynyddol ar y BBC, er mwyn llifo'n gyfleus rhwng y ddwy thema. Felly, rydym yn edrych yn gyntaf ar adolygiad annibynnol Euryn Ogwen Williams, a wedyn sesiwn dystiolaeth 4, fel y dywedais, ar y gwaith craffu blynyddol ar y BBC. Croeso i'r tystion yma heddiw: Rhodri Talfan Davies, pennaeth BBC Cymru Wales; Elan Closs Stephens, aelod o fwrdd y BBC ar gyfer Cymru; a wedyn Nick Andrews, pennaeth comisiynu. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am wneud yr amser bob tro i ddod mewn atom fel pwyllgor. Ein fformat ni yw gofyn cwestiynau ar themâu gwahanol, os yw hi'n iawn gyda chi, a wedyn byddwn ni'n cael Aelodau gwahanol i ofyn cwestiynau. Felly, mi wnaf i gychwyn, gyda chwestiwn ynglŷn ag S4C a'r adolygiad annibynnol. Mae yna gryn drafodaeth wedi bod ynglŷn â'r system ariannol sydd wedi dod mas o'r adolygiad, a wedyn trafodaeth ynglŷn â'r model ariannu sy'n seiliedig ar luosogrwydd yr arian hynny. A ydych chi'n dal i gredu ei bod hi'n bwysig bod dwy gyllideb gwahanol yn ariannu S4C, neu a ydych chi'n credu eich bod wedi newid eich barn a'ch bod yn hapus fod popeth yn mynd drwy'r drwydded, ai peidio? Beth yw eich barn chi nawr ar hynny?
English: Thank you for that. I just want to go back to a point that you made at the beginning that perhaps you were concerned about the independence of S4C if all the money went through the licence fee. That wasn't a concern of the BBC when part of that funding was going through the licence. Everybody was content about that. So, why was there a new concern that all the money going through the licence would undermine the independence?
Welsh: consérnDiolch am hynny. Roeddwn i jest eisiau mynd yn ôl at bwynt wnaethoch ei wneud ar y cychwyn, sef eich bod chi efallai yn poeni rhywfaint am annibyniaeth S4C pe byddai'r holl arian yn mynd drwy'r drwydded. Nid oedd hynny'n gonsérn i'r BBC pan oedd rhan o'r arian hwnnw'n mynd drwy'r drwydded. Roedd pawb yn hapus fod hynny'n mynd i fod yn annibynnol. Felly, pam roedd yna gonsérn newydd fod yr holl arian yn mynd drwy'r drwydded yn mynd i fod yn rhywbeth a fyddai'n tanseilio'r annibyniaeth?
English: There have been many perceptions about the fact - . People have said, for example, that the BBC is taking over S4C or is subsuming S4C and you always have to present the other side of that argument. Although the perception is not correct, it was out there as a myth, and we didn't want to see that myth expanded. As I say, as the Secretary of State has made it so clear that their independence is robust, then I hope that the public will accept that and that we will be able to discuss the way their are funded in the near future.
Welsh: Mae yna lawer o ganfyddiadau wedi bod o'r ffaith - . Mae yna bobl wedi sôn, er enghraifft, bod y BBC yn cymryd drosodd S4C neu yn eu traflyncu nhw ac rydych chi wastad yn gorfod rhoi ochr arall y ddadl. Er bod y canfyddiad yn un ffug, mae o allan yna fel rhyw fyth, ac nid oeddem am ehangu'r myth hwnnw. Ond fel rydw i'n ei ddweud, gan bod yr Ysgrifennydd Gwladol wedi ei gwneud hi mor glir bod eu hannibyniaeth nhw'n gadarn, rwy'n gobeithio y bydd y cyhoedd yn derbyn hynny ac y byddwn yn gallu trafod pa ffordd bynnag maen nhw'n cael eu hariannu yn y dyfodol agos.
English: Okay. Rhodri?
Welsh: Iawn. Rhodri?
English: No, I don't have anything -
Welsh: Na, nid oes gen i -
English: Just another small point. Are there any risks at all for the BBC, if we did move to the model of all of S4C's funding coming through the licence fee? Do you see any problem at all for the BBC in that?
Welsh: Un peth bach. A oes risgiau o gwbl ar gyfer BBC pe baem yn symud i fodel lle mae arian S4C i gyd yn dod drwy ffi'r drwydded? A ydych chi'n gweld unrhyw broblem o gwbl i'r BBC yn hynny o beth?
English: I don't see any problem, because ultimately, S4C, as an independent body, will have to make its case with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of State will then have to decide what he or she believes is adequate funding for the channel. The BBC, in its negotiation with the same Secretary of State, will have to make a case for a sufficient licence fee so that the funding is available both for the BBC and for S4C.
Welsh: Nid wyf yn gweld unrhyw broblem achos, yn y pen draw, mi fydd rhaid i S4C, fel corff annibynnol, ddadlau ei achos gyda'r Ysgrifennydd Gwladol ac fe fydd yr Ysgrifennydd Gwladol yn gorfod pennu beth y mae o neu hi'n ei feddwl sydd yn arian digonol i'r sianel. Mi fydd y BBC wedyn, yn eu trafodaeth nhw gyda'r un Ysgrifennydd Gwladol, yn gorfod dadlau am ffi drwydded ddigonol i gael yr arian iddyn nhw ac i S4C.
English: But you could be in a position where you'd have to find at least an additional £6 million through the licence fee, and that would be some sort of risk or might lead to a cut somewhere, wouldn't it?
Welsh: Ond gallech chi fod mewn sefyllfa lle rydych chi angen ffeindio o leiaf £6 miliwn yn ychwanegol drwy ffi'r drwydded, felly mae hwnnw'n mynd i olygu rhyw fath o risg neu doriad neu rywbeth yn rhywle, onid ydy?
English: Well, it is one risk amongst a whole host of other risks, if I may say so. Without taking too much of your time, this slightly crosses over into the second part of the session. Inflation within the industry is higher than day-to-day inflation, and in addition to that, there are the large behemoths, such as Netflix and so on, who are out there and can spend exceptional amounts of money, and on top of that, the Government is bringing in a concession for the licence fee for those over 75 years old. That'll come to an end in 2020, placing that responsibility on the BBC to put in place whatever new policy will emerge from that. So, we may be paying for the entirety of that, or we may be paying a percentage of that, or none of that, but it is a major financial risk, and having a BBC that is sufficiently funded is a very good starting point for S4C, I would say.
Welsh: Wel, mae'n risg ynghanol llu o risgiau, os caf i ddweud. Er enghraifft, heb gymryd eich amser chi'n ormodol, mae hwn tipyn bach yn llifo i mewn i'r ail ran. Mae chwyddiant y diwydiant yn uwch na chwyddiant normal, ac ar ben hynny, mae behemothiaid mawr, megis Netflix ac yn y blaen, sydd allan yna ac yn gallu gwario'n eithriadol, ac ar ben hynny, wrth gwrs, mae'r Llywodraeth yn dod â chonsesiwn ffi drwydded i bobl dros 75 oed. Maen nhw'n dod â fo i ben yn 2020 ac yn rhoi'r cyfrifoldeb i'r BBC i drefnu pa bynnag bolisi newydd a fydd yn dod allan. So, mi allem ni fod yn talu'r cyfan o hynny, neu mi allem ni fod yn talu ychydig o hynny, neu ddim o hynny, ond mae yn risg ariannol fawr, ac mae cael BBC sydd wedi'i ariannu'n ddigonol yn fan da iawn hefyd i S4C, buaswn i'n dweud.
English: Can you just expand, perhaps, on what your views are, if you have a view at all, on what S4C will now do with their new remit in terms of digital work, the new commercial freedom? They've raised with us the fact that they might want to share analytic knowledge from the BBC iPlayer to see who is viewing. Do you have a view on those changes or developments?
Welsh: A allwch chi jest ehangu, efallai, ar beth yw eich barn chi, os oes barn gyda chi o gwbl, am beth y bydd S4C nawr yn ei wneud gyda'i chylch gwaith newydd o ran y gwaith digidol, o ran y rhyddid masnachol newydd? Maen nhw wedi codi gyda ni'r ffaith eu bod nhw eisiau efallai rhannu dadansoddiad iPlayer er mwyn deall pwy sydd yn gwylio. A oes yna farn gyda chi am y newidiadau neu'r datblygiadau hyn?
English: Well, clearly, S4C wanted a change to its remit, because they didn't feel that their remit was appropriate for the twenty-first century, and we are very pleased that they do now have that new remit and that they are able to move into the digital age with confidence and on a firm legal basis - and that's the most important point. Likewise, they have had additional commercial freedoms and so on. So, I would say that I'm just very pleased, as someone who chaired the channel, that that new freedom is available to them. In terms of the iPlayer, we are exceptionally pleased at the success of the channel on the iPlayer. I think it's 4 million views in 12 months, and it's around 120,000 viewers per week on iPlayer viewing S4C output. So, we are extremely pleased and proud of that relationship between us. And, if I may say, it has been a very good relationship over the past years, and I would very much hope that that would continue, because it's Wales that benefits when there is a good relationship between the two broadcasters.
Welsh: Wel, yn amlwg, roedd S4C eisiau cylch gorchwyl gwahanol, achos nid oedden nhw ddim yn teimlo bod eu cylch gorchwyl nhw yn addas ar gyfer yr unfed ganrif ar hugain. Rydym ni'n falch iawn, iawn eu bod nhw wedi cael cylch gorchwyl gwahanol a'u bod nhw felly yn gallu mynd i mewn i'r oes ddigidol yn hyderus ac yn gyfreithiol gywir - dyna'r pwynt pwysicaf. Ac yn yr un modd, maen nhw wedi cael pethau fel rhyddid masnachol ychwanegol ac yn y blaen. So, buaswn i'n dweud fy mod i jest yn falch iawn, fel rhywun a fu'n cadeirio'r sianel, fod y rhyddid newydd yma wedi dod iddyn nhw. O ran iPlayer, rŷm ni'n falch iawn, iawn o lwyddiant y sianel ar yr iPlayer. Rwy'n credu bod 4 miliwn o ddarnau o wylio wedi bod mewn blwyddyn, ac mae tua 120,000 o wylwyr bob wythnos ar yr iPlayer yn gwylio S4C. Felly, rŷm ni'n hynod o falch o'r berthynas sydd rhyngom ni. Ac os caf i ddweud, mae hi wedi bod yn berthynas dda dros y blynyddoedd diwethaf. Byddwn i'n gobeithio'n fawr fod honno'n parhau, achos Cymru sydd yn elwa pan mae yna berthynas dda rhwng y ddau ddarlledwr.
English: And just in terms of the collaboration in the development of the Welsh language, clearly, there is an onus now on S4C to do more, I would say, in terms of reaching a million Welsh speakers. Do you think, perhaps, there is room for the BBC to do more - I know that you are doing it to some extent - by mainstreaming things through the medium of Welsh, and with more Welsh being heard on the BBC? Do you think there's a role for S4C, and also a role for you to show that the Welsh language is alive and - ?
Welsh: A jest o ran y cydweithredu o ran datblygu'r iaith Gymraeg, yn amlwg, mae yna onus nawr ar S4C i wneud mwy, buaswn i'n dweud, o ran cyrraedd y miliwn. A ydych chi'n credu bod, efallai, yna le i'r BBC wneud mwy, efallai - rwy'n gwybod eich bod chi yn ei wneud e i ryw raddau - i brif-ffrydio pethau drwy'r Gymraeg, a bod yna fwy o Gymraeg yn cael ei chlywed ar y BBC? A ydych chi'n credu ei bod yn rôl i S4C, ond bod yna rôl hefyd i chi ddangos bod y Gymraeg yn fyw ac yn - ?
English: Most certainly - and I'll ask Rhodri to expand on this - because the close relationship that exists between us as two broadcasters is crucially important for reaching that figure of a million Welsh speakers, and, as you've said, Radio Cymru, Radio Cymru 2, Cymru Fyw, Bitesize and so on are all opportunities for expanding the use of the Welsh language. Perhaps Rhodri wants to come in.
Welsh: Yn sicr - fe wna i ofyn i Rhodri ehangu - achos mae'r berthynas agos sydd rhyngom ni fel dau ddarlledwr yn hollbwysig ar gyfer cyrraedd y miliwn, ac, fel yr ydych chi wedi ei ddweud, gyda Radio Cymru, Radio Cymru 2, Cymru Fyw, Bitesize ac ati, mae yna bob math o gyfleoedd ar gyfer ehangu'r iaith Gymraeg. Efallai y bydd Rhodri eisiau dweud rhywbeth.
English: I was just going to say thank you for the invitation first and to add that the BBC's commitment to the Welsh language isn't something that's on the periphery; it's at the core of what we do. We provide some of the most popular programmes for S4C. Radio Cymru is responsible for about 70 per cent of all use of the Welsh language in the media. It is a main station; it has over ten hours' use every week by over 100,000 people who reach that station over the week. So, the contribution of the BBC to the Welsh language is important in terms of provision for S4C, but it goes beyond that, online and through the radio.
Welsh: Roeddwn i jest am ddweud diolch am y gwahoddiad yn gyntaf. Roeddwn i jest yn mynd i ychwanegu: nid yw ymrwymiad y BBC i'r Gymraeg yn rhywbeth ymylol; mae'n greiddiol i beth ydym ni'n ei wneud. Rydym ni'n darparu rhai o raglenni mwyaf poblogaidd S4C. Mae Radio Cymru'n gyfrifol am ryw 70 y cant o holl ddefnydd Cymraeg y cyfryngau. Mae'n brif orsaf; mae'n cael dros 10 awr yr wythnos o ddefnydd gan y dros 100,000 o bobl sy'n dod i mewn i'r orsaf yna bob wythnos. Felly, mae cyfraniad y BBC i'r Gymraeg yn bwysig o ran darpariaeth i S4C, ond mae'n mynd y tu hwnt i hynny, ar-lein a thrwy'r radio.
English: Just to go back to the point you're making - his important point that so many people watch S4C on iPlayer across the world now. But that's not reflected in the report, is it? We're talking about viewing figures for series on S4C, and when people look at these stark figures in this report, it doesn't look as if many people are viewing. So, isn't it time that you reflected the iPlayer trend in these figures?
Welsh: Jest i fynd yn ôl at y pwynt rydych chi'n ei wneud a'r pwynt pwysig yma bod yna gymaint o bobl yn gwylio S4C ar iPlayer ar draws y byd erbyn hyn. Ond nid yw hynny'n cael ei adlewyrchu yn yr adroddiad, nac ydy? Hynny yw, rydym ni'n sôn am ffigurau gwylio cyfresi S4C, a phan mae rhywun yn edrych ar y ffigurau moel sydd yn yr adroddiad yma, nid yw'n edrych fel bod yna lawer yn gwylio. Onid ydy hi'n bryd ichi adlewyrchu'r tueddiad iPlayer yma ac yn y blaen yn y ffigurau yma?
English: Sorry - are you talking about the BBC report?
Welsh: Sori - a ydych chi'n sôn am adroddiad y BBC?
English: No, we don't report on S4C iPlayer figures in our report because that's a recognition of the independence of the channel. S4C reports on their own viewing figures rather than the BBC doing so. The only broadcasting figures that we provide in the report are the BBC programming produced by the BBC and broadcast on S4C. I don't think it would be appropriate for us to report on their figures in terms of on-demand services.
Welsh: Nid ydym yn adrodd ar ffigurau iPlayer S4C yn yr adroddiad achos mae o'n gydnabyddiaeth o annibyniaeth y sianel. Hynny yw, S4C sy'n adrodd ar eu ffigurau gwylio nhw, yn hytrach na'r BBC. Yr unig ffigurau darlledu rŷm ni'n eu cynnig yn yr adroddiad yw rhaglenni sy'n cael eu cynhyrchu gan y BBC a'u darlledu ar S4C. Nid wyf yn meddwl y byddai'n briodol i ni adrodd ar eu ffigurau nhw o ran gwasanaethau ar alw.
English: But some of these figures about your programmes - they reach many more people than is being reported here.
Welsh: Ond mae rhai o'r ffigurau yma am rai o'ch rhaglenni chi - maen nhw'n cyrraedd llawer iawn mwy o bobl na sy'n cael ei adrodd yn y fan hyn.
English: No, no; the broadcast figures are the highest figures. The online figures would be lower than the broadcast figures. Live broadcasting still represents 80 to 90 per cent of all the viewing that happens.
Welsh: Na, na; y ffigurau darlledu yw'r ffigurau mwyaf. Byddai'r ffigurau ar lein yn llai na'r ffigurau gwylio darlledu. Mae darlledu byw yn dal yn cynrychioli rhyw 80 i 90 y cant o'r holl wylio sy'n digwydd.
English: Can I just ask a quick question on the independent sector? Is something that is going to be affordable for them going to go to the new building in Cardiff?
Welsh: A allaf i jest ofyn cwestiwn clou ynglŷn â'r sector annibynnol? A ydy unrhyw beth sydd yn mynd i fod yn fforddiadwy iddyn nhw i fod yn mynd i'r adeilad newydd yng Nghaerdydd?
English: In what way? Affordable in terms of the cost?
Welsh: Ym mha ffordd? Yn fforddiadwy o ran y gost?
English: Cost to them -
Welsh: O ran cost iddyn nhw -
English: There is no cost to them.
Welsh: Nid oes dim cost iddyn nhw.
English: So, if they want to do something in Cardiff and base themselves there, there'd be no cost to them.
Welsh: So, os maen nhw eisiau gwneud rhywbeth yng Nghaerdydd a seilio eu hunain yna, bydd dim cost iddyn nhw.
English: No. What we've done is, on the top floor, it's an open space, which is also flexible, and we're discussing that with the sector at the moment. The intention is for all of our partners who provide programming for us that they should have access to the building and to that fifth floor. So, if they have meetings with their own clients, rather than with us, there is somewhere in the centre of Cardiff that they can use for those meetings. So, it will be healthy in terms of their proximity to us, but it will also just be a resource for them.
Welsh: Na. Beth rydym ni wedi gwneud yw, ar y llawr top, mae o'n ofod agored ac yn hyblyg, a rydym ni'n trafod hynny gyda'r sector ar hyn o bryd. Y bwriad yw i'n holl bartneriaid ni sy'n darparu'r rhaglenni i ni, fod ganddyn nhw fynediad i'r adeilad ac i'r bumed llawr yna. Felly, os oes ganddyn nhw gyfarfodydd gyda'u cleientiaid nhw, nid gyda ni, mae yna rhywle yng nghanol Caerdydd maen nhw'n gallu'i ddefnyddio ar gyfer y sesiynau yna. Felly, bydd o'n iachus o ran eu hagosatrwydd atom ni, ond bydd o hefyd jest yn adnodd iddyn nhw.
English: Well, no. Of course, if they use technical resources, there would be a cost attached to that, but it is a meeting space for them in the centre of Cardiff.
Welsh: Na, na, na. Wrth gwrs, os ydyn nhw'n defnyddio adnoddau technolegol mae yna gost ynghlwm â rheini, ond mae o'n ofod cyfarfod iddyn nhw reit yng nghanol Caerdydd.