English: I thank Delyth for her contribution and the points she's made. I think the opportunity costs are something that we should be looking at, because I don't hear any Brexiteers challenging the costs that have been put towards leaving the EU, other than the divorce bill. But there are additional costs behind that. We all talked in the referendum about the costs of being in the EU, but we don't get any figures for how much it's actually costing us now, the amount of money that's being spent, the departmental disruption that's being caused, and those figures. That's something perhaps we will want to ask the Welsh Government at some point, as to the types of figures that they're spending on this, irrespective of the transformation fund, Minister, because I can see you looking there, but the amount of money that you're spending on other activities as well. I'd also agree with Delyth on the EU nationals - they're still in limbo. We are not a nation of Donald Trumps, where people say, 'Go home.' People come here and are welcome here and want to be a part of here, and we want them to be part of here. I think we've always been a multicultural society. I'll open up. My mother's from Belgium. She came over just after the second world war. We are a nation of people who've always welcomed others, and we should never, ever, ever change from that. If anyone wants to emulate Donald Trump, I suggest you go to America and not be here. The future of the union is a very strong thing. We may have different views on what a constitutional convention should be, but at some point, we do really need to get to grips with: what will the union look like? And if we don't do it, what could it look like? We need to get to that position, because I do fear that there are some ostriches in Westminster who keep burying their heads, who do not want to know and don't want to look at what it could look like if we don't take action now.
Welsh: Diolch i Delyth am ei chyfraniad a'r pwyntiau a wnaeth. Rwy'n credu bod y costau cyfle yn rhywbeth y dylem fod yn edrych arno, oherwydd ni chlywaf unrhyw rai sydd o blaid Brexit yn herio'r costau a glustnodwyd ar gyfer gadael yr UE, heblaw'r bil ysgariad. Ond mae costau ychwanegol y tu ôl i hynny. Siaradodd pawb ohonom yn y refferendwm am gostau bod yn yr UE, ond nid ydym yn cael unrhyw ffigurau ar gyfer faint y mae'n ei gostio i ni yn awr mewn gwirionedd, yr arian sy'n cael ei wario, yr aflonyddwch adrannol a achosir, a'r ffigurau hynny. Dyna rywbeth y byddwn am ei ofyn i Lywodraeth Cymru ar ryw bwynt o bosibl, ynglŷn â'r math o ffigurau y maent yn eu gwario ar hyn, ar wahân i'r gronfa drawsnewid, Weinidog, oherwydd gwelaf chi'n edrych yno, ond y swm o arian rydych yn ei wario ar weithgareddau eraill yn ogystal. Buaswn yn cytuno â Delyth ynglŷn â ddinasyddion yr UE hefyd - maent yn dal i fod mewn limbo. Nid ydym yn genedl o Donald Trumps, lle mae pobl yn dweud, 'Ewch adref.' Mae pobl yn dod yma ac mae croeso iddynt yma ac maent eisiau bod yn rhan o fywyd yma, ac rydym am iddynt fod yn rhan o fywyd yma. Rwy'n credu ein bod bob amser wedi bod yn gymdeithas amlddiwylliannol. Daw fy mam o Wlad Belg. Daeth hi drosodd ar ôl yr ail ryfel byd. Rydym yn genedl o bobl sydd bob amser wedi croesawu eraill, ac ni ddylem byth, byth, byth newid o hynny. Os oes unrhyw un eisiau efelychu Donald Trump, rwy'n awgrymu eich bod yn mynd oddi yma i America. Mae dyfodol yr undeb yn beth cryf iawn. Efallai fod gennym farn wahanol ar yr hyn y dylai confensiwn cyfansoddiadol fod, ond ar ryw adeg, mae angen i ni fynd i'r afael â: sut olwg fydd ar yr undeb? Ac os na wnawn hynny, sut olwg a allai fod arno? Mae angen inni gyrraedd y fan honno, gan fy mod yn ofni bod yna estrysod yn San Steffan sy'n dal ati i gladdu eu pennau, heb fod eisiau gwybod a heb fod eisiau edrych ar sut y gallai edrych os nad ydym yn gweithredu yn awr.