English: I just want to speak briefly, really, to say 'thank you' to Sarah Rochira for being a fantastic older people's commissioner over these past six years. I held the older people's brief for a number of years in the previous Assembly, and it was an absolute joy to be able to work with the commissioner, and indeed the rest of her team, and to get alongside her and see just how hard she worked to engage with older people across the country. She made a number of visits up to my constituency. We did some bus surgeries, so we both got on the buses and, indeed, visited care homes in my constituency too. I've been very grateful for the way in which she has engaged with voluntary groups in the area too. So, I want to put on record my thanks for her efforts. We can see from yet another report just that great level of activity that is under way in Wales in terms of the way that she is reaching out and trying to be that champion of older people that she has been over the past six years. She's not shied away either from taking a nip at the heels of Government and local authorities and independent care providers and hospitals over the years. She's rolled her sleeves up and she's produced some excellent reports that have been, frankly, very hard-hitting at times and that have been very difficult reading, but each of those has had with it some very useful recommendations in terms of being able to take the dignity and respect agenda in particular forward, and I know that she can be proud of the legacy that she will leave behind when she vacates this post and passes it on to the next person. Just two very brief comments if I may: you made reference earlier on, Minister, to the older people's rights agenda and the fact that we are all on the same side in terms of the outcomes that we want to achieve but that you don't feel that there's a need to actually legislate in order to achieve those outcomes. But you will know that, via an amendment that was tabled by the Welsh Conservatives, we do have reference to the UN principles for older persons on the face of the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act 2014, and I think that it's necessary, frankly, to have more of an umbrella piece of legislation on which to hang all of the things that you want to do as a Government so that older people can trace straight back to a piece of legislation their rights and, indeed, the responsibilities of others towards them. Children and young people have that; older people don't, and I think it sends a very negative message to older people with the Government's stubbornness to move forward with a piece of legislation on this. One of the rights that I would like to see on the face of a piece of legislation - and you're only able to do this with legislation - is a clear right to respite. We've seen the older people's commissioner report on the importance of respite with her 'Rethinking Respite' report, particularly around dementia. The number of people who come into our surgeries as Assembly Members who are facing burnout because of the lack of access to respite has only grown in recent years - people who need to be resilient for the sake of their loved ones and who are doing a very hard and very difficult job that is not always properly recognised by the authorities with which they're engaged, particularly social service departments in some parts of the country. We know that that can destroy their relationships with the older people who they are caring for - some of whom, they may have been married tens of years, decades under their belt, and, as a result of that burn-out, the frustration that can often be caused, it just destroys the love in those relationships. So, we've got to work harder on respite, and I think that you ought to take on board one of the suggestions that our party put forward at the last Assembly elections, which was to have, in statute, a clear right to respite for older people and others caring for their loved ones, because it really is the only way we're going to secure the change in attitude that we need. So, in closing, once again I'd like to thank Sarah Rochira for her work, and I look forward to being able to engage further with the Government on this important agenda in order that we can get the rights for older people realised here in Wales.
Welsh: Dim ond am gyfnod byr yr wyf eisiau siarad, mewn gwirionedd, i ddweud 'diolch' wrth Sarah Rochira am fod yn gomisiynydd pobl hŷn gwych dros y chwe blynedd diwethaf. Fi oedd yn gyfrifol am y briff pobl hŷn am nifer o flynyddoedd yn y Cynulliad blaenorol, ac roedd yn llawenydd pur gallu gweithio gyda'r comisiynydd, ac yn wir gweddill ei thîm, a gweithio ochr yn ochr â hi a gweld pa mor galed yr oedd hi'n gweithio i ymgysylltu â phobl hŷn ledled y wlad. Ymwelodd sawl gwaith â fy etholaeth i. Fe wnaethom ni rai cymorthfeydd bws, felly roedd y ddau ohonom ni yn mynd ar y bysiau ac, yn wir, fe wnaethom ni ymweld â chartrefi gofal yn fy etholaeth i hefyd. Rwyf wedi bod yn ddiolchgar iawn iddi am y ffordd y mae hi wedi ymgysylltu â grwpiau gwirfoddol yn yr ardal hefyd. Felly, hoffwn ddiolch ar goedd iddi am ei hymdrechion. Gallwn weld o adroddiad arall eto y lefel wych honno o weithgarwch sydd ar waith yng Nghymru o ran y ffordd y mae hi'n estyn allan ac yn ceisio eiriol dros bobl hŷn fel y bu dros y chwe blynedd diwethaf. Nid yw hi wedi ymatal rhag cadw'r Llywodraeth ac awdurdodau lleol a darparwyr gofal annibynnol ac ysbytai ar flaenau eu traed dros y blynyddoedd. Mae hi wedi torchi ei llewys ac mae hi wedi cynhyrchu rhai adroddiadau ardderchog sydd wedi bod, a dweud y gwir, yn ddeifiol iawn ar adegau ac y bu eu darllen yn anodd iawn, ond mae pob un o'r rheini wedi cynnwys rhai argymhellion defnyddiol iawn o ran gallu bwrw ymlaen â'r agenda urddas a pharch yn arbennig, ac rwy'n gwybod y gall fod yn falch o'r gwaddol y bydd hi'n gadael ar ei hôl pan fydd hi'n gadael y swydd hon ac yn ei throsglwyddo i'r person nesaf. Dim ond dau sylw cryno iawn os caf i: fe wnaethoch chi gyfeirio yn gynharach, Gweinidog, at agenda hawliau pobl hŷn a'r ffaith ein bod ni i gyd o'r un farn o ran y canlyniadau yr ydym ni eisiau eu cyflawni ond nad ydych chi'n teimlo bod angen deddfu mewn gwirionedd er mwyn sicrhau'r canlyniadau hynny. Ond byddwch chi'n gwybod, drwy welliant a gyflwynwyd gan y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, bod gennym ni gyfeiriad at egwyddorion y Cenhedloedd Unedig ar gyfer pobl hŷn ar wyneb Deddf Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol a Llesiant (Cymru) 2014, a chredaf ei bod hi'n angenrheidiol, a dweud y gwir, i fod â darn mwy eang o ddeddfwriaeth i fod yn gysgod dros y pethau yr ydych chi eisiau eu gwneud fel Llywodraeth, fel y gall pobl hŷn olrhain eu hawliau yn uniongyrchol i ddarn o ddeddfwriaeth ac, yn wir, cyfrifoldebau eraill tuag atynt. Mae gan blant a phobl ifanc hynny; does gan bobl hŷn ddim, ac rwy'n credu ei bod hi'n anfon neges negyddol iawn at bobl hŷn yn sgil ystyfnigrwydd y Llywodraeth i gyflwyno darn o ddeddfwriaeth ynglŷn â hyn. Un o'r hawliau yr hoffwn i ei weld ar wyneb darn o ddeddfwriaeth - a dim ond â deddfwriaeth yr ydych chi'n gallu gwneud hyn - yw hawl glir i gael gofal seibiant. Rydym ni wedi gweld adroddiad y comisiynydd pobl hŷn ynglŷn â phwysigrwydd gofal seibiant yn ei hadroddiad 'Ailystyried Seibiant', yn enwedig ynghylch dementia. Mae nifer y bobl sy'n dod i'r cymorthfeydd yr ydym ni, Aelodau Cynulliad, yn eu cynnal, wedi gorflino'n llwyr oherwydd nad ydyn nhw'n gallu manteisio ar ofal seibiant wedi cynyddu yn y blynyddoedd diwethaf - pobl y mae angen iddyn nhw fod yn gadarn er lles eu hanwyliaid ac sy'n gwneud gwaith caled ac anodd iawn na chaiff ei gydnabod yn briodol bob amser gan yr awdurdodau y maen nhw'n ymwneud â nhw, adrannau gwasanaethau cymdeithasol yn enwedig mewn rhai rhannau o'r wlad. Gwyddom y gall hynny ddinistrio eu perthynas â'r bobl hŷn y maen nhw'n gofalu amdanynt - rhai ohonyn nhw y mae'n bosibl y buont yn briod am ddegau o flynyddoedd, sydd â degawdau o flynyddoedd priodasol o dan eu hadain, ac, o ganlyniad i'r gorflinder llwyr hwnnw, y rhwystredigaeth y gall ei achosi yn aml, mae'n dinistrio cariad yn y perthnasoedd hynny. Felly, mae'n rhaid inni weithio'n galetach ar ofal seibiant, a chredaf y dylech chi ystyried un o'r awgrymiadau y mae ein plaid ni wedi ei chyflwyno yn etholiadau diwethaf y Cynulliad, sef i fod â hawl glir, mewn statud, i ofal seibiant ar gyfer pobl hŷn ac eraill sy'n gofalu am eu hanwyliaid, oherwydd dyma'r unig ffordd mewn gwirionedd yr ydym ni'n mynd i sicrhau'r newid mewn agwedd sydd ei angen arnom ni. Felly, i gloi, unwaith eto hoffwn ddiolch i Sarah Rochira am ei gwaith, ac edrychaf ymlaen at allu ymwneud ymhellach â'r Llywodraeth ar yr agenda bwysig hon fel y gallwn ni wireddu'r hawliau ar gyfer pobl hŷn yma yng Nghymru.