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English: May I turn to you, Dr Shelton? Because, this morning, we have heard two different versions of evidence, or claims of there being evidence - . Your network claims that there is broad evidence showing that physical punishment can cause significant harm and that it's also ineffective in managing children's behaviour. Now, we heard in the previous session a claim that there was evidence to the contrary, and we have been given examples this morning, and I look forward to looking at those in greater detail and perhaps getting your response to some of the studies that were referenced in the previous session. But we also know that the Bill's own explanatory memorandum says that there is no definitive evidence that physical punishment affects children negatively. Now - forgive us - we as a committee need to see the evidence, but the evidence is not entirely robust or entirely clear, so can you perhaps help us to work our way through the evidence and help us to find which of these we are going to accept? Or is it your view that it is not entirely clear one way or the other, and that the committee will have to accept that and park that to one side, perhaps, and think of other reasons or alternative reasons as to why we should accept or reject this legal change that we are looking at? I'm sorry to be lengthy, but I think that I am summarising what the committee has started to gather up till now, and I hope you, as an academic, could perhaps help us in this.
Welsh: Gaf i droi atoch chi, Dr Shelton? Achos, bore yma, dŷn ni wedi clywed dau fersiwn gwahanol o dystiolaeth, neu'r honiad bod yna dystiolaeth sydd - . Mae eich rhwydwaith chi yn honni bod yna dystiolaeth helaeth yn dangos bod cosbi corfforol yn gallu achosi niwed sylweddol, a'i fod o hefyd yn aneffeithiol i reoli ymddygiad plant. Dŷn ni wedi clywed yn y sesiwn flaenorol honiad bod yna dystiolaeth i'r gwrthwyneb, a dŷn ni wedi cael enghreifftiau'r bore yma, a dwi'n edrych ymlaen i edrych yn fwy manwl ar y rhain, ac efallai cael eich ymateb chi i rai o'r astudiaethau y cyfeiriwyd atyn nhw yn y sesiwn flaenorol. Ond dŷn ni hefyd yn gwybod bod memorandwm esboniadol y Bil ei hun yn dweud nad oes yna ddim tystiolaeth bendant bod cosb gorfforol resymol yn effeithio'n negyddol ar blant. Felly - maddeuwch i ni - dŷn ni fel pwyllgor angen gweld y dystiolaeth, ond dydy'r dystiolaeth ddim yn hollol gadarn, ddim yn hollol glir, felly fedrwch chi helpu ni i weithio'n ffordd drwy'r dystiolaeth a'n helpu ni i ffeindio pa un o'r rhain dŷn ni'n mynd i dderbyn? Ynteu ydych chi o'r farn nad ydy o ddim yn hollol glir naill ffordd neu'r llall, a bod yn rhaid i'r pwyllgor dderbyn hynny hefyd a pharcio hwnna i'r naill ochr, efallai, a meddwl am resymau eraill neu resymau gwahanol ynglŷn â derbyn neu wrthod y newid cyfraith sydd o dan sylw? Sori i fod yn hir, ond dwi'n meddwl fy mod i'n crynhoi beth mae'r pwyllgor wedi dechrau ei gasglu i'r pwynt yma, a gobeithio fyddwch chi, fel academydd, efallai, yn gallu ein helpu ni ynglŷn â hyn.
English: Yes. Well, there are other aspects, delving more deeply into your evidence. Can you explain to us why you believe that there is evidence to show that using variable levels of violence can lead to physical abuse or to more serious sexual or physical abuse - that is, saying that one leads to something more serious? There is evidence for that, obviously.
Welsh: Ie. Wel, mae yna agweddau eraill, yn treiddio mwy i mewn i'ch tystiolaeth chi. Fedrwch chi egluro wrthon ni pam rydych chi'n credu bod yna dystiolaeth i ddangos bod defnyddio lefel mympwyol o drais yn gallu arwain at gam-drin corfforol neu rywiol mwy difrifol - hynny yw, bod un yn arwain at rywbeth mwy difrifol? Mae yna dystiolaeth i hynny hefyd, yn amlwg.
English: Good afternoon. I know that you are in favour of this new legislation. So, could you explain why, and why you feel that the current law is not effective? And could you also explain - ? I think you also believe that the legislation needs to be simpler as well?
Welsh: Prynhawn da. Dwi'n gwybod eich bod chi o blaid y ddeddfwriaeth newydd yma. Fedrwch chi egluro pam, a pham rydych chi'n meddwl nad ydy'r gyfraith bresennol yn effeithiol? A hefyd, fedrwch chi esbonio - ? Dwi'n credu eich bod chi'n credu bod angen i'r ddeddfwriaeth fod yn syml hefyd?
English: What some people would say, of course, is, 'What about parents' rights as compared to children's rights?' What is your response to that?
Welsh: Beth fyddai rhai pobl yn dweud, wrth gwrs, ydy, 'Beth am hawliau rhieni o gymharu efo hawliau plant?' Beth ydy'ch ateb chi i hynny?
English: As well as the rights aspects of this that you emphasise, do you believe that reasonable physical chastisement has a negative impact on children?
Welsh: Yn ogystal â'r agwedd hawliau dŷch chi'n pwysleisio arno fo, ydych chi'n credu bod cosb gorfforol rhesymol yn effeithio'n wael ar blant?
English: May I just interrupt? So, you don't accept the Welsh Government interpretation in the explanatory memorandum accompanying the Bill, where they state that there is, 'no definitive evidence that "reasonable" physical punishment causes negative outcomes for children'. That's what the Government is saying. You challenge that. You don't agree with that statement.
Welsh: Felly, gaf i jest dorri ar draws? Felly, dŷch chi ddim yn derbyn dehongliad Llywodraeth Cymru sydd yn y memorandwm esboniadol yn mynd efo'r Bil yma, lle maen nhw'n dweud, 'nad oes tystiolaeth bendant bod cosb gorfforol "resymol" yn effeithio'n negyddol ar blant'. Dyna mae'r Llywodraeth yn ei ddweud. Dŷch chi'n herio hynny. Dŷch chi ddim yn cytuno efo'r gosodiad yna.
English: Yet again, the Welsh Government says to the contrary. It says: 'there is unlikely to be any research evidence which specifically shows the effects of a light infrequent smack as being harmful to children'. So, why does the Government come to that conclusion and you come to an entirely different conclusion?
Welsh: Ac eto, mae'r Llywodraeth yn dweud yn wahanol. Mae'r Llywodraeth yn dweud: 'nad yw'n debyg bod unrhyw dystiolaeth ymchwil sy'n dangos yn benodol bod effeithiau smacio ysgafn ac anaml yn niweidiol' i blant. Pam fod y Llywodraeth wedi dod i'r casgliad yna a dŷch chi'n dod i gasgliad cwbl, cwbl wahanol?
English: So, is adopting a cautious approach appropriate in this particular case? Does it help us? Or does being cautious mean that it's going in the wrong direction in a way in terms of the evidence? Would you argue with the Government that its explanation isn't correct here, or its interpretation rather, that that isn't correct? You say that it's cautious, but it is cautious because of - is it incorrect, therefore?
Welsh: Ydy cymryd agwedd cautious yn briodol yn yr achos yma? Ydy o'n helpu ni? Neu ydy ' cautious ' yn golygu ei fod o'n mynd i'r cyfeirid anghywir mewn ffordd o ran y dystiolaeth? Fyddech chi'n dadlau yn ôl efo'r Llywodraeth nad ydy ei esboniad nhw'n gywir, neu ei dehongliad nhw ddim yn gywir? Dŷch chi'n dweud ei fod o'n cautious, ond cautious oherwydd - felly, dyw o ddim yn gywir.
English: Moving on, therefore, to a few other issues. This idea of the nanny state. What's your response to that? Some people argue that this is an example yet again of the Government intervening too much in people's lives.
Welsh: Symud ymlaen felly i gwpwl o faterion eraill. Y busnes yma o'r nanny state. Beth ydy eich ymateb chi i hynny? Mae yna rai pobl yn dadlau bod hwn yn enghraifft eto o Lywodraeth yn ymyrryd yn ormodol ym mywydau pobl.
English: In terms of public opinion, are you out of step with what people think?
Welsh: O ran barn y cyhoedd, ydych chi allan o sync efo beth mae pobl yn meddwl?
English: Okay. In terms of what has happened in New Zealand, it appears that it has polarised public opinion, which is another reason for doing nothing. It's created a great deal of debate and tension there. Do you agree with that?
Welsh: Ocê. Yr hyn sydd wedi digwydd yn Seland Newydd - mae o'n ymddangos bod o wedi creu hollt yn y farn, sydd eto'n rheswm dros beidio â gwneud dim byd. Mae o wedi creu rhyw ffraeo mawr, ac wedi creu tensiynau. Ydych chi'n cytuno?
English: So, the lesson to learn in your view is that we shouldn't try to do too much with this new legislation - we shouldn't include too much in it, we shouldn't add other issues with regard to chastisement and parenting; we should keep it simple, to abolish the defence.
Welsh: Felly, y wers i'w dysgu dŷch chi'n teimlo ydy i ni beidio â thrio gwneud gormod efo'r ddeddfwriaeth newydd yma - peidio â rhoi gormod i mewn yna, peidio ag ychwanegu materion eraill yn ymwneud â disgyblaeth a rhianta; cadw fo'n syml i ddileu'r gosb.
English: And just to conclude, you've emphasised the rights and that side of this particular issue - in your opinion would failing to legislate to abolish the defence of reasonable chastisement leave the Welsh Government open to legal challenge? I don't think you went as far as to say that in your opening remarks, but do you believe that that could possibly happen under the 2011 Measure?
Welsh: A jest i gloi, dŷch chi wedi pwysleisio'r hawliau ar ochr yna o'r pwnc - yn eich barn chi, byddai methu â deddfu i ddileu'r amddiffyniad o gosb resymol yn gadael Llywodraeth Cymru yn agored i her gyfreithiol. Dwi ddim yn meddwl a wnaethoch chi fynd mor bell a dweud hynny yn eich sylwadau agoriadol. A ydych chi'n credu byddai hynna'n gallu digwydd o dan Ddeddf Hawliau Dynol 1998?
English: We'll move on, therefore, swiftly to item 2: Count me in! Inquiry into the role of arts and culture in addressing poverty and social exclusion. We're looking at public funding this morning. A very warm welcome to Diane Hebb, director of engagement and participation at the Arts Council of Wales, and Richard Bellamy, director of the Heritage Lottery Fund. Thank you for very much for joining us this morning. I don't know if you understand how we work as a committee, but usually we move immediately to questions based on different themes. So, if that's okay with you, we will ask Assembly Members to question you in that manner. If I could start, then. I wanted to ask how you engage with people in poverty and social exclusion, and considering specifically funding allocations to cultural organisations. So, when you do provide that funding to organisations and bodies, how do you assess poverty and social exclusion, either in your briefing letters to those organisations or in your discussions with them? Thank you.
Welsh: Symudwn ymlaen, felly, yn gyflym i eitem 2: Minnau hefyd! Ymchwiliad i rôl y celfyddydau a diwylliant wrth fynd i'r afael â thlodi ac allgáu cymdeithasol. Dŷn ni'n trafod cyllid cyhoeddus yma heddiw, a chroeso i Diane Hebb, sef cyfarwyddwr ymgysylltu a chyfranogi, Cyngor Celfyddydau Cymru, a hefyd i Richard Bellamy, cyfarwyddwr Cronfa Dreftadaeth y Loteri. Diolch ichi am dreulio amser gyda ni y bore yma. Dwi ddim yn siŵr os ydych chi'n deall sut rŷm ni'n gweithredu fel pwyllgor ond, fel arfer, dŷn ni'n gofyn cwestiynau ar sail themâu gwahanol ac felly, os yw hynny'n iawn, byddwn ni'n gofyn i Aelodau Cynulliad ofyn cwestiynau. Os gwnaf i gychwyn, felly. Roeddwn i eisiau gofyn sut ydych chi'n ymgysylltu â phobl sydd wedi cael eu hallgau yn gymdeithasol, wrth ystyried yn benodol dyraniadau cyllid i sefydliadau diwylliannol. Felly, pan fyddwch chi'n rhoi'r arian hwnnw i sefydliadau, ym mha ffordd ydych chi'n cymryd hyn i ystyriaeth, naill ai yn eich llythyrau briff i'r sefydliadau hynny neu yn eich trafodaethau gyda'r sefydliadau hynny? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
English: Thank you. I was just looking for an initial response in that regard. We will be going into more detail as we proceed. Richard.
Welsh: Diolch. Jest ateb cychwynnol oedd angen ar hynny. Bydd pobl yn gofyn mwy o gwestiynau mewn dyfnder. Richard.
English: Just one further question from me, which is perhaps more specifically to the arts council. I respect the fact that you will be going into more detail as to what exactly you're funding and why, but could you just give us some sort of idea if you have different criteria for different groups? For example, if that were a particularly large group, would you expect more from them in terms of doing more with communities that are difficult to access?
Welsh: Jest un cwestiwn clou gen i, sydd efallai'n fwy penodol i'r cyngor celfyddydau. Rwy'n parchu eich bod chi'n mynd i fynd mewn i fwy o fanylder ynglŷn â beth yn gwmws dŷch chi'n ei ariannu a pham, ond a allech chi jest roi rhyw fath o syniad i ni os oes gennych chi criteria gwahanol i wahanol grwpiau? Er enghraifft, os oedd y grŵp hwnnw'n un mawr, a fyddech chi'n disgwyl mwy ganddyn nhw o ran gwneud mwy gyda chymunedau sydd yn anodd mynd atyn nhw?
English: If it was a larger organisation, do you have different criteria for those larger organisations that can afford to do more, where you would have perhaps different criteria for a smaller group that perhaps couldn't access every part of Wales to discuss or to work with people in poverty?
Welsh: Os oedd e'n un o'r mudiadau mwy, oes gennych chi criteria gwahanol i'r rhai mwy a fyddai efallai'n gallu fforddio gwneud mwy, lle bod criteria gwahanol i fudiad neu grŵp llai na fyddai'n bosib iddyn nhw fynd i bob rhan o Gymru i drafod neu weithredu gyda phobl mewn tlodi?
English: Do you have any plans to change that or to adapt the way you work?
Welsh: Oes yna gynlluniau i newid hynny neu i addasu'r hyn dŷch chi'n ei wneud?
English: Just a final quick question on evaluation, because we do need to cover that area. So, if we don't have enough time to go through it in detail, perhaps you could write to us with more information. Delyth.
Welsh: Jest cwestiwn olaf clou ar werthuso, achos bod angen inni gyfro gwerthuso. Felly, os nad oes digon o amser i fynd trwyddo fe'n llwyr, os allech chi ysgrifennu atom ni gyda mwy o wybodaeth, byddai hwnna'n helpu. Delyth.
English: Thank you very much for joining us and providing evidence. That's all the time we have, but if you do have further information on the timings of some of the reviews or the outcomes of some of the reviews that you're conducting, or any of the work that the lottery is doing in encouraging people to come together to share best practice in terms of how they can make applications, that would help us as a committee. So, thank you very much for joining us.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn ichi am ddod mewn i roi tystiolaeth. Dyna'r oll sydd ar gael o ran amser. Os oes mwy o wybodaeth gyda chi ynglŷn ag amseroedd rhai o'r adolygiadau neu ganlyniadau rhai o'r adolygiadau rydych chi'n eu gwneud, neu rywfaint o'r gwaith mae'r loteri yn ei wneud trwy hybu pobl i ddod at ei gilydd i rannu sut maen nhw'n gallu rhoi cais ger bron, byddai hwnna'n helpu ni fel pwyllgor yn fawr iawn. Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn ichi am ddod mewn.
English: We will take a two-minute break. Thank you.
Welsh: Byddwn ni'n cymryd seibiant o ddwy funud nawr. Diolch.
English: Thank you, and welcome back to the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications committee. Item 3 on the agenda is 'Count me in! - Inquiry into the role of arts and culture in addressing poverty and social exclusion'. And today, we have a panel of academics: Dr Eva Elliott, Honorary Research Fellow, School of Social Sciences at Cardiff University, as well as Professor Morag McDermont, Professor of Socio-Legal Studies at the University of Bristol Law School. They are very lengthy titles, both. But thank you very much for joining us this morning. In case you don't know how we work, we tend to have themed questions from different Members. So, if it's okay with you, we'll move immediately to those questions. And to kick off, we have Mick Antoniw.
Welsh: Diolch, a chroeso i'r Pwyllgor Diwylliant, y Gymraeg a Chyfathrebu. Eitem 3 ar yr agenda yw 'Minnau hefyd! - Ymchwiliad i rôl y celfyddydau a diwylliant wrth fynd i'r afael â thlodi ac allgáu cymdeithasol'. A heddiw, dŷn ni'n trafod hyn gyda'r academyddion. Yn ein mysg mae Dr Eva Elliott, sef Cymrawd Ymchwil Mygedol, Ysgol y Gwyddorau Cymdeithasol, Prifysgol Caerdydd, a hefyd yr Athro Morag McDermont, Athro Astudiaethau Cymdeithasol-Gyfreithiol, Ysgol y Gyfraith, Prifysgol Bryste. Teitlau hir gyda chi'ch dwy. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am ddod mewn atom heddiw. Os nad ydych yn deall sut dŷn ni'n gweithredu, dŷn ni'n cael cwestiynau ar sail themâu gwahanol, gan Aelodau gwahanol. Felly, os yw'n iawn gyda chi, awn ni'n syth mewn i'r cwestiynau hynny. Ac i gychwyn gyda ni y bore yma, Mick Antoniw.
English: Cais. No application has been made to Ofcom as yet. So, I think we should focus on the BBC for the time being. Thank you. Item 4.6, additional evidence from Age Cymru. Anything else that Members have to say on that? Okay. We move on, therefore, to item 4.7, correspondence with the Welsh Government regarding the teaching of Welsh history and culture in schools. Once again, we'll discuss that in private session.
Welsh: Cais. Does dim llythyr wedi mynd at Ofcom eto. Felly, ffocysu ar y BBC ar hyn o bryd. Diolch. Eitem 4.6 wedyn, tystiolaeth ychwanegol gan Age Cymru. Oes unrhyw beth arall gan Aelodau i'w ddweud ar hynny? Iawn. Felly symud ymlaen wedyn at eitem 4.7, gohebiaeth â Llywodraeth Cymru ynghylch addysgu hanes a diwylliant Cymru mewn ysgolion. Eto, fe wnawn ni drafod hynny yn breifat.
English: Item 5, motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. Are Members content?
Welsh: Eitem 5: cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i wahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod. Ydy pawb yn hapus â hynny?
English: Thank you very much, Chair. Well, the questions that I have have partly been answered already, but just to push the Minister a little bit further on this, because the Electoral Reform Society Cymru found that year 9 pupils felt that they didn't receive a lot of political education and that it was very ad hoc. The society also referred to a direct correlation between the amount of accessibility you can have to young people and the information we can give them and their propensity to turn out to vote. So, how will the new curriculum address the need for political and citizenship education?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Gadeirydd. Wel, mae'r cwestiynau sydd gyda fi yn rhannol wedi eu hateb eisoes, ond jest i wthio'r Gweinidog ychydig bach yn fwy, achos canfu Cymdeithas Diwygio Etholiadol Cymru fod disgyblion blwyddyn 9 yn teimlo nad oeddent yn cael llawer o addysg wleidyddol a'i bod yn ad hoc iawn. Cyfeiriodd y gymdeithas hefyd at gydberthynas uniongyrchol rhwng faint o fynediad y gallwch ei gael at bobl ifanc a'r wybodaeth y gallwch ei rhoi iddyn nhw a'r tuedd iddyn nhw droi allan i bleidleisio wedyn. Sut fydd y cwricwlwm newydd, felly, yn mynd i'r afael â'r angen am addysg wleidyddol a dinasyddiaeth?
English: Thank you very much for that. And following on from that, of course, we're talking here about a new national framework, and also a new national framework where schools can develop local curricula. So, within that context, how can you ensure that all children receive political and citizenship education and receive consistent messages?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr am hynna. Hefyd, ar gefn hynna, wrth gwrs, dŷn ni'n sôn yn fan hyn am fframwaith cenedlaethol newydd, ond hefyd fframwaith cenedlaethol newydd lle gall ysgolion ddatblygu cwricwla lleol. Felly, o fewn y cyd-destun yna, sut y gallwch chi sicrhau bod pob plentyn yn cael addysg wleidyddol a dinasyddiaeth a negeseuon cyson?
English: Thank you, and good morning, Llywydd. I'm sure you would be pleased to take through legislation on re-establishing local government. [ Laughter.] I'm sure that would be something you'd welcome. May I ask several questions with regard to the name of the institution ultimately? We've received evidence in favour of 'Senedd Cymru' and 'Welsh Parliament', which is the bilingual title, of course. What's your opinion now about what the name should be?
Welsh: Diolch, a bore da, Lywydd. Rwy'n siŵr byddai'n bleser i chi i gymryd deddfwriaeth drwyddo ar ailsefydlu llywodraeth leol. [ Chwerthin.] Rwy'n siŵr y byddai hwnna'n rhywbeth y byddech chi'n ei groesawu. Gaf i ofyn sawl cwestiwn ynglŷn ag enw'r sefydliad yn y pen draw? Dŷn ni wedi cael lot o dystiolaeth o blaid yr enw 'Senedd Cymru' a 'Welsh Parliament', sef enw dwyieithog, wrth gwrs. Beth yw'ch barn chi nawr ynglŷn â beth ddylai'r enw fod?
English: Well, clearly, there's a diversity of opinion on the name. It's important to state that there is no difference of opinion, it appears to me, on the principle of changing the name, changing from 'National Assembly'. The difference of opinion is on what the new name should be. And there are a few versions, as you've already suggested in your question. I remain of the opinion that we should rename the National Assembly 'Senedd' and that the proper description in English would be 'Welsh Parliament'. That's what I believe is the best way of securing the supermajority required in the National Assembly in support of that. But you have gathered evidence, you are a cross-party committee, and you will come to your own views on what you believe the name should be, and that will be an issue that I will take a great deal of interest in, in terms of what name you as a committee believe would be most appropriate in the final wording, because you reflect the Assembly as a whole.
Welsh: Wel, mae'n amlwg bod yna amrywiaeth barn ar yr enw. Mae'n bwysig i ddweud does yna ddim amrywiaeth barn - dyw e ddim yn ymddangos i fi fod yna amrywiaeth barn - ar yr egwyddor o newid yr enw, sef o 'Cynulliad Cenedlaethol'; mae'r amrywiaeth barn ar newid e i beth. Ac mae yna ambell i fersiwn, fel rŷch chi wedi ei awgrymu. Yr hyn - . Dwi'n dal i fod o'r farn i ailenwi'r Cynulliad Cenedlaethol yn 'Senedd', ac yna taw'r disgrifiad cywir yn y Saesneg o 'Senedd' yw 'Welsh Parliament'. A dyna dwi'n credu yw'r ffordd fwyaf hwylus o sicrhau cefnogaeth y mwyafrif mawr sydd ei angen yn y Cynulliad Cenedlaethol yma. Ond, wrth gwrs, rŷch chi wedi cymryd tystiolaeth, rŷch chi'n bwyllgor trawsbleidiol, ac fe ddewch chi i'ch barn eich hunain ar beth rŷch chi'n credu y dylai'r enw fod, ac fe fydd hwnna'n fater y bydd gen i dipyn o ddiddordeb ynddo, ynglŷn â pha enw y byddwch chi fel pwyllgor yn credu y dylid ei gyflwyno'n derfynol, oherwydd rŷch chi'n adlewyrchiad o'r Cynulliad yn llawn yn y lle yma.
English: Okay. With regard to the fact that there is no territorial indicator attached to the name 'Senedd', does that create any problem?
Welsh: Ocê. Ynglŷn â'r ffaith bod dim tiriogaeth yn berchen i'r enw 'Senedd', a ydy hynny'n creu unrhyw fath o broblem?