English: Diolch. Since the announcement of a new major Titan or superprison was announced back in March of this year, it has alarmed people across the communities I represent in Port Talbot and the wider area too. It's galvanised a wide cross section of the community and led to a genuine cross-party effort in Port Talbot to say 'no' to this prison. It's led to people getting involved in democracy who have never done so before, and I'm pleased to be able to have this debate today so we can outline why I think all Members of this Assembly should join those of us campaigning against this prison by saying 'no' - not just here, but anywhere in Wales. There are a multitude of reasons why we should reject this plan. They range from the problems with the site itself through to wider concerns about what we want our criminal system to look like. What do we want from Government spending in our communities? Just because we have an offer from Government of 'investment', is it the right kind of investment for our community? The site itself, proposed on Baglan Moors in Port Talbot, is deeply problematic. It sits in a flood-risk zone, and according to Welsh Government's own technical advice note 15 development policies, there should be no building of the scale of this prison on the land in question. It will do nothing to aid the sustainable development and improvement of the area, and so should be avoided. I understand that the designation of this land was changed from a C2 flood-risk designation to a C1 zone, so perhaps the Cabinet Secretary could clarify what the reasons for these changes are. The site is in the middle of the Baglan industrial park, part of the enterprise zone, clearly earmarked for development of enterprise. This prison will not build on the entrepreneurial potential of the area, and one major local employer in advanced manufacturing has said they will seriously consider leaving the area if the prison goes ahead. We need to have answers to questions about what we are supposed to do about prisoners who are released on probation and into the community. As far as I could see from a letter that was sent to the MP for the area, it was particularly why Port Talbot was chosen for this site, as opposed to other sites in Wales. It's also worth pointing out that the Welsh Government passed the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Bill to ensure sustainable development, which, at its heart, is supposed to emphasise developments that are beneficial for the long-term well-being of local communities. I fail to see how building this prison doesn't fly in the face of that legislation. We are talking, amongst other things, of building a prison in the flood-risk zone in a ward in which 42 per cent of homes are at risk already. This prison has also, at least for my party, become a symptom of the failures of the UK criminal justice policy: the failure to change course and focus on proper rehabilitation with a goal of keeping those who don't need to go to prison out of prison. Instead, the superprison programme is intended to deal with as many offenders as possible in the cheapest possible way: prisons outsourced to private contractors where, then, there is a financial incentive for those companies to work against reducing the prison population. The UK Government is starting down the road of the United States and potentially igniting a problem that will be extremely difficult to eradicate in future: the beginnings of the UK's very own mini prison industrial complex. I have been encouraged by the cross-party nature of the opposition to the prison in Port Talbot, but - and there is a 'but' - the Welsh Government needs to own up to what its angle is on the prison, because what's truly perplexing is that a Labour Welsh Government, supposedly committed to the ideals of social justice, is backing this at all. We also need to consider what kind of economic message this sends. The Welsh Government is content for Wales, is it, to import prisoners from other parts of the UK when we don't need those extra places here in Wales. The Minister, the Cabinet Secretary, is shaking his head, and, if he wishes to intervene, then I will, of course, be happy to take that intervention. The suggested site for the prison is part of the Port Talbot enterprise zone, which is owned by the Welsh Government and was created at the height of the steel crisis as an attempt to encourage business activity in the area. Boosting business, encouraging exports, and strengthening Wales's heavy industry should be the Welsh Government's priority for the area, but instead it has thrown its weight in support of the superprison, and, if it has not, then I would like to see clarification of that today. A prison -
Welsh: Diolch. Ers y cyhoeddiad am y Titan mawr newydd neu'r uwch garchar yn ôl ym mis Mawrth eleni, mae wedi dychryn pobl ar draws y cymunedau rwy'n eu cynrychioli ym Mhort Talbot a'r ardal ehangach hefyd. Mae wedi grymuso croestoriad eang o'r gymuned ac wedi arwain at ymdrech drawsbleidiol go iawn ym Mhort Talbot i ddweud 'na' wrth y carchar hwn. Mae wedi arwain at bobl yn cymryd rhan mewn democratiaeth er na wnaethant hynny erioed o'r blaen, ac rwy'n falch o allu cael y ddadl hon heddiw er mwyn i ni amlinellu pam y credaf y dylai holl Aelodau'r Cynulliad hwn ymuno â'r rheini ohonom sy'n ymgyrchu yn erbyn y carchar hwn drwy ddweud 'na' - nid yn unig yma, ond yn unrhyw le yng Nghymru. Ceir llu o resymau pam y dylem wrthod y cynllun hwn. Maent yn amrywio o broblemau gyda'r safle ei hun i bryderon ehangach ynglŷn â sut yr hoffem i'n system droseddol fod. Beth rydym ei eisiau o wariant Llywodraeth yn ein cymunedau? Nid yw'r ffaith ein bod wedi cael cynnig 'buddsoddiad' gan y Llywodraeth yn golygu mai dyma'r math cywir o fuddsoddiad ar gyfer ein cymuned. Mae'r safle arfaethedig ei hun ar Rosydd Baglan ym Mhort Talbot, yn broblemus tu hwnt. Mae'n gorwedd mewn parth risg llifogydd, ac yn unol â pholisïau datblygu nodyn cyngor technegol 15 Llywodraeth Cymru ei hun, ni ddylai fod unrhyw adeilad o faint y carchar hwn ar y tir dan sylw. Ni fydd yn gwneud dim i helpu datblygu cynaliadwy a gwella'r ardal, ac felly dylid ei osgoi. Deallaf fod dynodiad y tir hwn wedi'i newid o ddynodiad risg llifogydd C2 i barth C1, felly efallai y gallai Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet egluro'r rhesymau dros y newidiadau hyn. Mae'r safle yng nghanol parc diwydiannol Baglan, rhan o'r ardal fenter, wedi'i glustnodi'n glir ar gyfer datblygu menter. Ni fydd y carchar yn adeiladu ar botensial entrepreneuraidd yr ardal, ac mae un cyflogwr lleol mawr ym maes gweithgynhyrchu uwch wedi dweud y bydd yn ystyried yn ddwys a ddylai adael yr ardal os yw'r carchar yn mynd yn ei flaen. Mae angen i ni gael atebion i gwestiynau ynglŷn â'r hyn rydym i fod i'w wneud ynglŷn â charcharorion sy'n cael eu rhyddhau ar brawf ac i mewn i'r gymuned. Cyn belled ag y gallwn weld o lythyr a anfonwyd at yr AS dros yr ardal, dyna'n benodol pam y dewiswyd Port Talbot fel safle, yn hytrach na safleoedd eraill yng Nghymru. Mae hefyd yn werth nodi bod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi pasio'r Bil Llesiant Cenedlaethau'r Dyfodol (Cymru) er mwyn sicrhau datblygu cynaliadwy, sydd, yn y bôn, i fod i bwysleisio datblygiadau sy'n fuddiol i lesiant hirdymor cymunedau lleol. Rwy'n methu gweld sut nad yw adeiladu'r carchar hwn yn mynd yn groes i'r ddeddfwriaeth honno. Rydym yn sôn, ymhlith pethau eraill, am adeiladu carchar yn y parth risg llifogydd mewn ward lle mae 42 y cant o gartrefi'n wynebu perygl yn barod. Mae'r carchar hefyd, i fy mhlaid i o leiaf, wedi dod yn symptom o fethiant polisi cyfiawnder troseddol y DU: y methiant i newid llwybr a chanolbwyntio ar adsefydlu priodol gyda'r nod o gadw'r rhai nad oes angen iddynt fynd i'r carchar allan o garchar. Yn lle hynny, nod rhaglen yr uwch garchar yw ymdrin â chymaint o droseddwyr â phosibl yn y ffordd rataf sy'n bosibl: rhoi carchardai ar gontract allanol i gontractwyr preifat lle mae cymhelliant ariannol wedyn i'r cwmnïau hynny weithio yn erbyn lleihau poblogaeth y carchardai. Mae Llywodraeth y DU yn dechrau mynd ar hyd y ffordd y mae'r Unol Daleithiau yn ei theithio ac o bosib yn creu problem y bydd yn anodd iawn cael gwared arni yn y dyfodol: dechreuad cymhlyg carchar diwydiannol bach y DU ei hun. Cefais fy nghalonogi gan natur drawsbleidiol y gwrthwynebiad i'r carchar ym Mhort Talbot, ond - ac mae yna 'ond' - mae angen i Lywodraeth Cymru gyfaddef beth yw ei safbwynt ar y carchar, oherwydd yr hyn sy'n peri dryswch go iawn yw bod Llywodraeth Cymru Lafur, sydd i fod wedi ymrwymo i ddelfrydau cyfiawnder cymdeithasol, yn rhoi unrhyw gefnogaeth i hyn. Mae angen inni ystyried hefyd pa fath o neges economaidd y mae hyn yn ei rhoi. Mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn fodlon i Gymru, ydy, i fewnforio carcharorion o rannau eraill o'r DU pan nad oes angen y lleoedd ychwanegol hynny yma yng Nghymru. Mae'r Gweinidog, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, yn ysgwyd ei ben, ac os yw'n dymuno ymyrryd, yna, wrth gwrs, byddaf yn falch o dderbyn yr ymyriad hwnnw. Mae'r safle a awgrymwyd ar gyfer y carchar yn rhan o ardal fenter Port Talbot, sy'n eiddo i Lywodraeth Cymru a chafodd ei chreu yn anterth yr argyfwng dur fel ymgais i annog gweithgaredd busnes yn yr ardal. Dylai hybu busnes, annog allforion, a chryfhau diwydiant trwm Cymru fod yn flaenoriaeth i Lywodraeth Cymru ar gyfer yr ardal, ond yn lle hynny mae wedi dewis cefnogi'r uwch garchar, ac os nad yw wedi gwneud, yna hoffwn weld hynny'n cael ei egluro heddiw. Mae carchar -