English: Sorry, I pressed the wrong button. [ Laughter.] I was getting overexcited with my own rhetoric. [ Laughter.] But we also need to learn lessons. This was in many ways a lesson-learning investigation and inquiry for many of us. The idea of a Welsh tax policy is new to us in Wales, but the idea of differential tax policy within federal states is not a new one across the world. And we need to be looking where different states have different tax policies in different places, levied by different Governments, and how they, taken together, help shape that territory, that community. And let me finish by saying this: in having this debate, we need to have an honest debate. I've heard speakers in different parts of the Chamber talk about a low-tax Wales versus a high-tax Wales, and we've had that conversation before. The reality is we've got a very low tax base at the moment. We've got both a low tax base and low taxation levels, and we've always fooled ourselves - this extraordinarily dishonest approach that we can have Scandinavian-level services with American levels of taxation. And that's a debate we've not actually had, and we've believed it - we've been daft enough to believe our own rhetoric. And I believe we need to move away from that and to have a very real debate about where taxation lies in Wales, where it should lie. We're always home to the national health service when we want to be proud of it, but are we prepared to spend money on the national health service? We clapped this year, but will we put our hands -
Welsh: Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, pwysais y botwm anghywir. [ Chwerthin.] Cefais fy nghyffroi ormod gan fy rhethreg fy hun. [ Chwerthin.] Ond mae angen inni ddysgu gwersi hefyd. I lawer ohonom, ymchwiliad ac ymholiad i ddysgu gwersi oedd hwn mewn sawl ffordd. Mae'r syniad o bolisi treth i Gymru yn newydd i ni yng Nghymru, ond nid yw'r syniad o bolisi treth gwahaniaethol mewn gwladwriaethau ffederal yn un newydd ledled y byd. Ac mae angen inni edrych lle mae gan wahanol wladwriaethau bolisïau treth gwahanol mewn gwahanol leoedd, treth a godir gan wahanol Lywodraethau, a sut y maent, gyda'i gilydd, yn helpu i siapio'r diriogaeth honno, y gymuned honno. A gadewch i mi orffen drwy ddweud hyn: wrth gael y ddadl hon, mae angen inni gael dadl onest. Rwyf wedi clywed siaradwyr mewn gwahanol rannau o'r Siambr yn sôn am Gymru dreth isel yn erbyn Cymru dreth uchel, ac rydym wedi cael y sgwrs honno o'r blaen. Y realiti yw bod gennym sylfaen drethi isel iawn ar hyn o bryd. Mae gennym sylfaen drethi isel a lefelau trethiant isel, ac rydym bob amser wedi twyllo ein hunain - yr ymagwedd hynod anonest hon y gallwn gael gwasanaethau lefel Sgandinafaidd gyda lefelau trethiant Americanaidd. Ac mae honno'n ddadl nad ydym wedi'i chael mewn gwirionedd, ac rydym wedi'i gredu - rydym wedi bod yn ddigon gwirion i gredu ein rhethreg ein hunain. A chredaf fod angen inni symud oddi wrth hynny a chael dadl go iawn ynglŷn â ble mae trethiant yng Nghymru, ble y dylai fod. Rydym bob amser yn gartref i'r gwasanaeth iechyd gwladol pan fyddwn am fod yn falch ohono, ond a ydym yn barod i wario arian ar y gwasanaeth iechyd gwladol? Buom yn curo dwylo eleni, ond a wnawn ni roi ein dwylo -