English: Well, yes, but I would emphasise, as you have done, the importance of education. I would argue that there is a need, if you are talking about this, to legislate on the right to Welsh-medium education, and that would then ensure the kind of prioritisation that Huw and Elin have been outlining within Government, because it is something that would have to be delivered, and it would also ensure prioritisation, and the enabling of central Government to prioritise, to enable local government to deliver. Local government in a number of areas of Wales is doing excellent work, despite austerity, in order to respond to the increasing demand for Welsh-medium education. But it's clear that they are a long way behind when you look at the figures. We have to look at education, I think, almost in a box - not entirely separate, but in a separate box to the rest of these discussions. I think there's one other aspect that I don't think we've touched upon, and I think it's important that we do, namely that we recognise something that's in the White Paper, and it also arose from the commissioner's evidence, and it's an important, valuable point that needs to be made, which is that there's a difference between promoting on the one hand and facilitation on the other. So, it's the difference between 'promote' and 'facilitate'. Okay? Whatever you say about promotion in relation to language planning and so on and so forth, this question of facilitating or enabling those who are subject to standards, in order to help them to comply with those standards, is an important function. And I think that that relates, more than anything, to the regulatory style. Because good regulators do both things - they put best practice in place, they help with training or seminars or whatever else, so that compliance can happen. We looked, for example, at the various commissions dealing with equalities that have been created over the years. Those two things went hand in hand. They provided support and assistance as well as regulation. And I think, again, we need to give the commissioner an opportunity to do this work. It's clear that there is a discourse between the commissioner and those who are regulated, and this was one of the strengths, if I may say so, of the Welsh Language Board, in terms of their approach. And you can maintain that arm's-length relationship whilst still being a critical friend. And I do think it's important that we don't confuse that difference between promotion and facilitation. I think that's one of the things that this White Paper has been very clear about, in drawing out that distinction.
Welsh: Wel, ie, ond mi fuaswn i'n pwysleisio, fel rydych chi wedi ei wneud, bwysigrwydd addysg. Buaswn i'n dadlau bod angen - os ydych chi yn sôn am hyn - mae angen deddfu am yr hawl i addysg Gymraeg, a byddai hynny wedyn yn sicrhau y math o flaenoriaethu y mae Huw ac Elin wedi bod yn sôn amdano oddi mewn i'r Llywodraeth, oherwydd y mae'n rhywbeth y mae'n rhaid ei ddelifro, ac mi fyddai hefyd yn sicrhau blaenoriaethu, a galluogi blaenoriaethu gan y Llywodraeth ganolog, i alluogi llywodraeth leol i'w ddelifro. Mae llywodraeth leol mewn nifer o fannau yng Nghymru yn gwneud gwaith ardderchog, er gwaetha'r caledi, er mwyn ymateb i'r galw cynyddol am addysg Gymraeg. Ond mae'n eglur eu bod nhw ymhell ar ei hôl hi pan ydych chi'n edrych ar y ffigurau. Mae'n rhaid inni edrych ar addysg, rydw i'n credu, bron â bod mewn bocs - ddim yn gwbl ar wahân, ond mewn bocs ar wahân i weddill y trafodaethau yma. Rydw i'n credu bod un agwedd arall nad ydym ni wedi sôn amdani, ac rydw i'n credu ei bod hi'n bwysig ein bod ni'n gwneud, sef ein bod ni'n cydnabod rhywbeth sydd yn y Papur Gwyn, a hefyd mi gododd o dystiolaeth y comisiynydd, sydd yn bwynt gwerthfawr sydd angen ei wneud, sef bod yna wahaniaeth rhwng hybu a hyrwyddo ar y naill law a hwyluso ar y llaw arall, rhwng ' promote ' a ' facilitate '. O'r gorau? Beth bynnag rydych chi'n ei ddweud ynglŷn â hybu a hyrwyddo sy'n ymwneud â chynllunio ieithyddol ac yn y blaen, ac yn blaen ac yn y blaen, mae'r cwestiwn yma o alluogi rhai sydd sy'n ddarostyngedig i safonau, er mwyn eu helpu nhw i gydymffurfio â nhw, yn swyddogaeth bwysig. Ac rydw i'n credu bod hynny'n ymwneud, yn anad dim, â steil rheoleiddio. Achos mae rheoleiddwyr da yn gwneud y ddau beth - maen nhw'n gosod arfer gorau, maen nhw'n helpu drwy gynnig hyfforddiant neu seminarau neu beth bynnag, fel bod cydymffurfiaeth yn gallu digwydd. Edrychom ni, er enghraifft, ar y gwahanol gomisiynau hawliau cyfartal sydd wedi cael eu creu dros y blynyddoedd. Mi oedd y ddau beth yn mynd law yn llaw. Mi oedden nhw'n helpu ac yn rheoleiddio. Ac rydw i'n credu, unwaith eto, fod angen cyfle i'r comisiynydd gael gwneud y gwaith. Mae'n eglur bod yna ddisgẃrs yn digwydd rhwng y comisiynydd a'r rhai sy'n cael eu rheoleiddio, ac mi oedd hyn yn un o gryfderau eto, os caf i ddweud, Bwrdd yr Iaith Gymraeg, a sut roedden nhw'n mynd o gwmpas pethau. Ac mae modd cynnal y berthynas hyd braich yma, ond ar yr un pryd fod yn gyfaill beirniadol o sut mae mynd ati. Ac rydw i'n credu ei bod hi'n bwysig nad ydym yn drysu rhwng y gwaith hwyluso yna a'r gwaith hybu arall. Rydw i'n credu mai un o'r pethau y mae'r Papur Gwyn yma wedi bod yn groyw iawn yn ei gylch, yn tynnu allan y gwahaniaeth yma.