English: The experience of Altaf Hussain is, I'm sure, repeated, and I know it's repeated, amongst many of my constituents, but that doesn't really get us very far, in the sense that we can acknowledge that the service is under huge strain at the moment, not least the pent-up demand from two years of lockdown, but also the reduced capacity of hospitals caused by the additional public health measures needed. It is no use operating on somebody for a particular complaint and then they get COVID during that intervention, because, obviously, the health outcomes from that are unlikely to be very good. And it's also the case that health staff catch COVID too, and we definitely don't want them coming into work when they've got COVID, and that reduces the capacity of professional staff. And these are not people we can just pick off the supermarket floor and get to come in and do the job in the hospital instead; these are trained people who need years of training in order to be able to do their jobs. So, I think we have to acknowledge the pain that everybody's going through, and the health Minister does that regularly, but we have to come up with solutions that are coherent and that are also doable. Because it is just two weeks and one day since the health Minister announced the recovery plan from COVID, and it's a little bit early at the moment to say, 'What's happening, and why isn't it working?' So, I think that we need to have a little bit more critical use of our faculties to work out what we need to be doing and how we're going to get there. Certainly, we had a broken system before. If we've got somewhere between 20 per cent and 25 per cent of the population waiting for a hospital appointment - and it was a bit unclear from Russell's contribution which it is, but it doesn't really matter, let's just say it's one in five - that is just a staggering figure. And we just have to tackle the cause of the problem, as well as treat the symptoms, so we have to get on with the prevention agenda. And my colleague Lynne Neagle is sitting next to me; nobody could be a better Deputy Minister for public health than Lynne Neagle, and we are definitely getting on with the business of supporting people with their mental health, of tackling the obesity crisis that we have and also tackling smoking, which is obviously a major cause of cancer and many other problems, as well as obesity. These causes of ill health undoubtedly cause huge problems for the individual and for the health service system. And the best time to intervene on that, in terms of a response to Rhun ap Iorwerth, is at the beginning of the journey, which is when women are pregnant. That's when they want to change, that's when they'll give up smoking, that's when they'll change their diet. And we have to ensure that people are picking up the money that they can get when they're pregnant to ensure that they eat a healthy diet. So, there are many, many things that we need to do on that, but we can't not do it, because it's completely unsustainable to just go on the way that we are going at the moment. One of the things we've got is - . It's no use asking for more beds - that's really not where it's at; if you've got beds, people will fill them. We need to do interventions differently, more effectively, with more skill, just like the north Wales orthopaedic surgeons who do day surgery of knee operations, enlisting the patient and their family in preparing for that operation to ensure its maximum outcome.
Welsh: Gwn fod llawer o fy etholwyr wedi cael yr un profiad ag Altaf Hussain, rwy'n siŵr, ond nid yw hynny'n mynd â ni'n bell iawn mewn gwirionedd, yn yr ystyr y gallwn gydnabod bod y gwasanaeth dan bwysau enfawr ar hyn o bryd, yn anad dim y galw enbyd wedi dwy flynedd o gyfyngiadau symud, ond hefyd y ffaith bod llai o gapasiti mewn ysbytai o ganlyniad i'r mesurau iechyd cyhoeddus ychwanegol sydd eu hangen. Nid oes unrhyw ddiben rhoi llawdriniaeth i rywun i fynd i'r afael â chwyn benodol a'u bod yn cael COVID yn ystod yr ymyrraeth honno, oherwydd yn amlwg, mae'r canlyniadau iechyd yn sgil hynny yn annhebygol o fod yn dda iawn. Ac mae hefyd yn wir fod staff iechyd yn dal COVID hefyd, ac yn sicr, nid ydym am iddynt ddod i'r gwaith pan fydd ganddynt COVID, ac mae hynny'n lleihau capasiti staff proffesiynol. Ac nid yw'r rhain yn bobl y gallwn ddod o hyd iddynt yn gweithio yn yr archfarchnad a gofyn iddynt ddod i wneud gwaith yn yr ysbyty yn lle hynny; mae'r rhain yn bobl hyfforddedig sydd angen blynyddoedd o hyfforddiant er mwyn gallu gwneud eu swyddi. Felly, credaf fod yn rhaid inni gydnabod y poen y mae pawb yn ei ddioddef, ac mae'r Gweinidog iechyd yn gwneud hynny'n rheolaidd, ond mae'n rhaid inni ddod o hyd i atebion sy'n gydlynol ac sydd hefyd yn bosibl. Oherwydd dim ond pythefnos a diwrnod sydd ers i'r Gweinidog iechyd gyhoeddi'r cynllun adfer ar ôl COVID, ac mae braidd yn gynnar ar hyn o bryd i ddweud, 'Beth sy'n digwydd, a pham nad yw'n gweithio?' Felly, credaf fod angen inni feddwl yn graff i weld beth sydd angen inni ei wneud a sut i'w wneud. Yn sicr, roedd gennym eisoes system a oedd wedi torri. Os oes rhwng 20 y cant a 25 y cant o'r boblogaeth yn aros am apwyntiad ysbyty - ac roedd braidd yn aneglur o gyfraniad Russell pa un ydyw, ond nid oes ots mewn gwirionedd, gadewch inni ddweud ei fod yn un ym mhob pump - mae hwnnw'n ffigur syfrdanol. Ac mae'n rhaid inni fynd i'r afael ag achos y broblem, yn ogystal â thrin y symptomau, felly mae'n rhaid inni fwrw iddi gyda'r agenda atal. Ac mae fy nghyd-Aelod, Lynne Neagle, yn eistedd wrth fy ymyl; ni allai unrhyw un fod yn well Dirprwy Weinidog iechyd y cyhoedd na Lynne Neagle, ac rydym yn sicr yn bwrw ymlaen â'r gwaith o gefnogi pobl â'u hiechyd meddwl, o fynd i'r afael â'r argyfwng gordewdra sydd gennym yn ogystal â mynd i'r afael ag ysmygu, sy'n amlwg yn un o brif achosion canser a llawer o broblemau eraill, yn ogystal â gordewdra. Mae'r achosion afiechyd hyn heb os yn achosi problemau enfawr i'r unigolyn ac i system y gwasanaeth iechyd. A'r adeg orau i ymyrryd ar hynny, os caf ymateb i Rhun ap Iorwerth, yw ar ddechrau'r daith, sef pan fydd menywod yn feichiog. Dyna pryd y maent yn dymuno newid, dyna pryd y maent yn rhoi'r gorau i ysmygu, dyna pryd y maent yn newid eu deiet. Ac mae'n rhaid inni sicrhau bod pobl yn manteisio ar yr arian y gallant ei gael pan fyddant yn feichiog i sicrhau eu bod yn bwyta deiet iach. Felly, mae llawer iawn o bethau y mae angen inni eu gwneud ar hynny, ond ni allwn beidio â'u gwneud, gan fod parhau ar y ffordd yr ydym arni ar hyn o bryd yn gwbl anghynaliadwy. Un o'r pethau sydd gennym yw - . Nid oes unrhyw ddiben gofyn am fwy o welyau - nid dyna'r broblem; os oes gennych welyau, bydd pobl yn eu llenwi. Mae angen inni wneud ymyriadau'n wahanol, yn fwy effeithiol, yn fwy medrus, yn union fel llawfeddygon orthopedig gogledd Cymru sy'n gwneud llawdriniaethau dydd ar y pen-glin, gan gynnwys y claf a'u teulu yn y broses o baratoi ar gyfer y llawdriniaeth honno er mwyn sicrhau'r canlyniad gorau posibl.