English: Thank you. I have considered the arguments that some politicians have made, and others in the political sphere, that we should keep our noses out of this deal currently being offered by Tata to its workforce. I can see what they say, but then I was considering when it has ever been the case that politicians have not taken a view on such issues. Adam Price referred to miners' pensions. ASW workers - Adam again mentioned John Benson, who was here in the Assembly today, lobbying people as they came in. Visteon, Tata. Politicians in Port Talbot were on the platform, if I recall, when we first had this debate over pensions, taking a view on the way forward. I think there is a moral obligation on us as politicians to lead in this regard, and to show that we have an opinion and a way forward. I am not saying that we should dictate to workers how they should vote, but I am saying that we need to be part of the discussion on how that process takes place. And I do believe - and I do firmly believe - that the trade unions have not taken on that responsibility. I am speaking to workers almost on a daily basis, who are saying, 'I want them to tell me. I want them to take a view, so that I can have all the information to hand in a cohesive and constructive way. We go to the Tata Steel roadshows - that is good, the workforce needs to have that information from Tata Steel. But we need to therefore have guidance from the trade unions as to how we should vote'. I think it's not taking the responsibility that they should be taking, and they're not representing their workers as they should be doing so. David Rees.
Welsh: Diolch. Rwyf wedi ystyried y dadleuon y mae rhai gwleidyddion wedi'u gwneud, ac eraill yn y byd gwleidyddol, y dylem gadw ein trwynau allan o'r cytundeb hwn sy'n cael ei gynnig ar hyn o bryd gan Tata i'w weithlu. Gallaf weld yr hyn y maent yn ei ddweud, ond wedyn roeddwn yn ystyried pa bryd erioed y bu'n wir nad oedd gan wleidyddion farn ar faterion o'r fath. Cyfeiriodd Adam Price at bensiynau glowyr. Gweithwyr ASW - soniodd Adam eto am John Benson, a oedd yma yn y Cynulliad heddiw, yn lobïo pobl wrth iddynt ddod i mewn. Visteon, Tata. Roedd gwleidyddion ym Mhort Talbot ar y platfform, os cofiaf, pan gawsom y ddadl hon dros bensiynau gyntaf, gyda barn ar y ffordd ymlaen. Rwy'n meddwl bod rhwymedigaeth foesol arnom fel gwleidyddion i arwain yn hyn o beth, ac i ddangos bod gennym farn a ffordd ymlaen. Nid wyf yn dweud y dylem ddweud wrth y gweithwyr sut y dylent bleidleisio, ond rwy'n dweud bod angen i ni fod yn rhan o'r drafodaeth ar sut y bydd y broses honno'n digwydd. Ac rwy'n credu - ac rwy'n credu'n gadarn - nad yw'r undebau llafur wedi ymgymryd â'r cyfrifoldeb hwnnw. Bron yn ddyddiol, rwy'n siarad â gweithwyr sy'n dweud, 'Rwyf am iddynt ddweud wrthyf. Rwyf am iddynt gymryd safbwynt, er mwyn i mi gael yr holl wybodaeth mewn modd cydlynol ac adeiladol. Rydym yn mynd i sioeau teithiol Tata Steel - mae hynny'n dda, mae angen i'r gweithlu gael y wybodaeth honno gan Tata Steel. Ond mae angen felly i ni gael arweiniad gan yr undebau llafur ynglŷn â sut y dylem bleidleisio'. Rwy'n credu nad ydynt yn cymryd y cyfrifoldeb y dylent ei gymryd, ac nid ydynt yn cynrychioli eu gweithwyr fel y dylent fod yn ei wneud. David Rees.