English: I only rise to make a very brief contribution in this debate, which I've really enjoyed, actually. What it's thrown up for me, as I anticipated, is this real conflicted thinking that we struggle with - not just as a Senedd here, but also in the wider public - between our desire to be sitting in a warm car, on our own, with the radio turned on, with the heater on, driving wherever we want to, and actually the recognition that the poorest people in society don't actually rely on cars at all. What they rely on is good public transport. They don't have the option of having a car, even to get to a minimum-paid job. So, that's where the sustainable transport pyramid really plays very, very effectively. If we accept in this Senedd, as we did - [ Interruption.] I will in a moment - just in a moment. If we accept, as we did when we brought through not only the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015 but, actually, the Active Travel (Wales) Act 2013, which envisaged Wales becoming a nation where it would be natural to walk and cycle first - and that's the top of the pyramid; it's the walking and cycling - and then you work your way down, and you work your way through public transport and mass-transport systems, through shared cars and shared taxis, through things like community transport initiatives and so on. And then you get down to the unmistakable question that there will be some people who cannot do anything but get into their own car, at this moment in time with the technology we have. And we have to accept that. But surely we have to work through the others first, and what this debate sometimes misses is that wider thinking about how we shift things up that pyramid to make it easier, much more attractive, much more affordable, so that Suzy as well, not just me, as I can nip down to the train station - [ Interruption.] Just to mention to you, by the way, what I found, since travelling more and more by train, is that despite the issues that we've recently had through December with the 06:44 train in the morning - despite that, when I was travelling by car, I was stuck much more in delays, in traffic, in accidents, time after time after time, than the odd occasional train that gets cancelled. But I will give way.
Welsh: Rwyf ond yn codi i wneud cyfraniad byr iawn yn y ddadl hon, dadl rwyf wedi'i mwynhau'n fawr iawn mewn gwirionedd. Yr hyn y mae wedi tynnu fy sylw ato, fel y rhagwelais, yw'r gwrthdaro gwirioneddol hwn rydym yn brwydro ag ef - nid yn unig fel Senedd yma, ond hefyd ymhlith y cyhoedd yn gyffredinol - rhwng ein dyhead i fod yn eistedd mewn car cynnes, ar ein pen ein hunain, gyda'r radio ymlaen, gyda'r gwresogydd ymlaen, yn gyrru i ble bynnag y dymunwn, a'r sylweddoliad nad yw'r bobl dlotaf mewn cymdeithas yn dibynnu ar geir o gwbl. Yr hyn y maent yn dibynnu arno yw trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus dda. Nid yw cael car yn opsiwn iddynt, hyd yn oed i gyrraedd swydd sy'n talu'r lleiafswm cyflog. Felly, dyna ble mae'r pyramid trafnidiaeth gynaliadwy yn effeithiol iawn. Os derbyniwn yn y Senedd hon, fel y gwnaethom - [ Torri ar draws.] Gwnaf mewn munud - mewn munud. Os derbyniwn, fel y gwnaethom pan gyflwynasom Ddeddf Llesiant Cenedlaethau'r Dyfodol (Cymru) 2015, a Deddf Teithio Llesol (Cymru) 2013 hefyd, a oedd yn rhagweld Cymru'n dod yn genedl lle byddai'n naturiol cerdded a beicio'n gyntaf - a dyna frig y pyramid; y cerdded a'r beicio - ac yna rydych yn gweithio'ch ffordd i lawr, ac rydych yn gweithio'ch ffordd drwy drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus a systemau trafnidiaeth dorfol, drwy rannu ceir a rhannu tacsis, drwy bethau fel mentrau cludiant cymunedol ac ati. Ac yna rydych yn cyrraedd y cwestiwn digamsyniol y bydd rhai pobl na allant wneud unrhyw beth ond defnyddio eu car eu hunain gyda'r dechnoleg sydd gennym ar hyn o bryd. Ac mae'n rhaid inni dderbyn hynny. Ond does bosibl nad oes yn rhaid inni weithio drwy'r lleill yn gyntaf, a'r hyn y mae'r ddadl hon yn ei fethu weithiau yw'r syniadau ehangach ynglŷn â sut y symudwn bethau i fyny'r pyramid hwnnw i'w gwneud yn haws, yn llawer mwy deniadol, yn llawer mwy fforddiadwy, fel bod Suzy hefyd, nid fi'n unig, gan y gallaf daro i'r orsaf drenau - [ Torri ar draws.] Hoffwn ddweud wrthych, gyda llaw, ers imi deithio mwy a mwy ar y trên, er gwaethaf y problemau a gawsom yn ddiweddar drwy fis Rhagfyr gyda thrên 06:44 yn y bore - er gwaethaf hynny, pan oeddwn yn teithio mewn car, roeddwn yn sownd yn llawer amlach mewn tagfeydd, mewn traffig, mewn damweiniau, dro ar ôl tro ar ôl tro, na'r ambell drên achlysurol sy'n cael ei ganslo. Ond fe ildiaf.