English: Since 2018, the policy in Wales is that eye care and the kind of care that is provided is based on the level of risk. It was innovative in that regard, with patients being seen according to how much risk they face. And the highest risk factor is for those who face the risk of irreversible harm. And for people with eye problems, that means the risk of losing their sight. Now, in order for a system like that to work, people have to be seen within a specific time frame. It's as simple as that, and that's why the target notes that 95 per cent of patients need to be seen within that time frame. It should be 100 per cent as far as I'm concerned, but that 95 per cent is statistically quite close. But we hear now that 65,000 people aren't being seen within that specific time frame: 65,000 people facing losing their sight. I drew attention to this in the middle of the dark months of the pandemic, in February of last year. I was concerned about the impact of the pandemic, but we're hopefully moving out of the pandemic now and the problems are intensifying. It's bad enough when people are waiting in pain for orthopaedic treatment, perhaps, but we're talking here about people who are losing their sight. We've heard about the NHS starting to receive post-COVID targets, therefore, may I ask the Minister, very simply, when does she commit not to decreasing the number of people who are waiting longer than they should, but to getting rid of these waiting times entirely? There's no point having a system that is based on risk measures if you then leave tens of thousands of people open to the highest level of risk.
Welsh: Ers 2018, y polisi yng Nghymru ydy bod gofal llygaid a'r math o ofal sy'n cael ei gynnig yn seiliedig ar y lefel o risg. Mi oedd yn arloesol yn hynny o beth, efo cleifion i gael eu gweld yn ôl faint o risg maen nhw'n ei wynebu. Ac mae'r ffactor risg uchaf ar gyfer y rheini sy'n wynebu'r risg o newid di droi nôl, neu irreversible harm. Ac i bobl sydd â problem efo'u golwg, mae hynny yn golygu risg o golli eu golwg. Rŵan, er mwyn i system fel yna weithio, mae'n rhaid i bobl gael eu gweld o fewn amser penodedig. Mae mor syml â hynny, a dyna pam bod y targed yn nodi bod angen i 95 y cant o gleifion gael eu gweld o fewn yr amser hwnnw. Mi ddylai fod yn 100 y cant, am wn i, ond mae 95 y cant yn ystadegol yn eithaf agos ati. Ond rŵan rydyn ni'n clywed bod 65,000 o bobl ddim yn cael eu gweld o fewn yr amser penodedig: 65,000 o bobl yn wynebu colli eu golwg. Mi wnes i dynnu sylw at hyn yng nghanol misoedd tywyll y pandemig ym mis Chwefror y llynedd, yn poeni am effaith y pandemig, ond rŵan ein bod ni'n symud allan, gobeithio, o'r pandemig, mae'r problemau yn dwysáu. Mae'n ddigon drwg pan fydd pobl yn aros mewn poen am driniaeth orthopedig, o bosibl, ond rydyn ni yn sôn fan hyn, fel dwi'n dweud, am bobl sy'n colli eu golwg. Rydyn ni wedi clywed am yr NHS yn dechrau cael targedau newydd ôl COVID, felly, Llywydd, a gaf i ofyn i'r Gweinidog yn syml iawn pa bryd fydd hi'n ymrwymo nid i leihau faint o bobl sy'n aros yn hirach nag y dylen nhw, ond i gael gwared ar yr amseroedd aros yma'n llwyr? Does yna ddim pwynt i chi gael system sy'n seiliedig ar fesur risg os ydych chi wedyn yn gadael degau o filoedd o bobl yn agored i'r lefel uchaf posibl o risg.