English: Firstly, can I thank you for that very important supplementary question? Just to say in starting that I, of course, met with Sir Christopher Bellamy and many of the points that you're raising are points that I have raised. And I'm also very grateful to the Member that you regularly raise this issue because access to justice is, to some degree, dependent upon having an effective and working legal aid system. Sir Christopher Bellamy, of course, identified a whole series of access to justice issues in terms of accessibility of lawyers, the desert of legal advice that exists, and also the funding system. But it was quite limited in respect of criminal legal aid. In respect of the Hillsborough law campaign, it is one I am very, very interested in. In my past life, I was involved, of course, in the Orgreave cases and the demand for an inquiry, for example, into Orgreave, which, had lessons been learnt from that, might well have impacted on the way Hillsborough developed and so on. Now, the proposals, as I understand them, have come, actually, from the Bishop of Liverpool, and three of the key ones were that there'd be a public advocate, representation at inquests, which is something that I've always argued for, and the duty of candour. And, of course, there are others. So, I think that this is something that is a very, very important call, and I understand why it has come. It relates right to the base of people in communities having access to justice and I think it is an issue I would really like to explore further. It is of course aimed in terms of a UK Government piece of legislation, but there may well be relevant lessons in respect of Wales, and if the Member is happy, I'm more than happy to meet with him, and with, in fact, other Members, in order to explore how the importance of the calls for a Hillsborough law could be relevant to Wales and also relevant to justice that takes place in Wales. And, of course, justice is not devolved. Were it devolved, I think we might be able to move far more progressively and more quickly on this issue. But I'm certainly exploring it; I'm very interested in it, and I'm happy to engage with the Member and others to look further at it.
Welsh: Yn gyntaf, a gaf fi ddiolch ichi am y cwestiwn atodol pwysig iawn hwnnw? Hoffwn ddweud i ddechrau fy mod, wrth gwrs, wedi cyfarfod â Syr Christopher Bellamy ac mae llawer o'r pwyntiau rydych chi'n eu codi yn bwyntiau rwyf finnau wedi'u codi. Ac rwyf hefyd yn ddiolchgar iawn i'r Aelod am godi'r mater hwn yn rheolaidd oherwydd mae mynediad at gyfiawnder, i ryw raddau, yn dibynnu ar gael system cymorth cyfreithiol effeithiol sy'n gweithio. Nododd Syr Christopher Bellamy gyfres gyfan o broblemau sy'n ymwneud â mynediad at gyfiawnder gan gynnwys hygyrchedd cyfreithwyr, y diffyg cyngor cyfreithiol sy'n bodoli, a'r system ariannu hefyd. Ond roedd yn eithaf cyfyngedig mewn perthynas â chymorth cyfreithiol troseddol. Ar ymgyrch cyfraith Hillsborough, mae gennyf ddiddordeb mawr iawn ynddi. Yn y gorffennol, bûm yn ymwneud ag achosion Orgreave a'r galw am ymchwiliad i Orgreave, er enghraifft, a phe bai gwersi wedi cael eu dysgu o hynny, gallai fod wedi cael effaith ar y ffordd y datblygodd Hillsborough ac yn y blaen. Nawr daeth y cynigion, yn ôl fel rwy'n eu deall, gan Esgob Lerpwl mewn gwirionedd, a thri o'r rhai allweddol oedd y dylid cael eiriolwr cyhoeddus, cynrychiolaeth mewn cwestau, sy'n rhywbeth rwyf bob amser wedi dadlau o'i blaid, yn ogystal â dyletswydd gonestrwydd. Ac mae yna rai eraill wrth gwrs. Felly, rwy'n credu bod hon yn alwad bwysig iawn, ac rwy'n deall pam ei bod wedi digwydd. Mae'n ymwneud â sicrhau bod gan sylfaen y bobl mewn cymunedau'n cael mynediad at gyfiawnder ac rwy'n credu ei fod yn fater yr hoffwn ei archwilio ymhellach. Deddfwriaeth gan Lywodraeth y DU ydyw wrth gwrs, ond mae'n bosibl iawn y bydd gwersi perthnasol i Gymru eu dysgu, ac os yw'r Aelod yn hapus, rwy'n fwy na pharod i gyfarfod ag ef, a chydag Aelodau eraill mewn gwirionedd, er mwyn archwilio sut y gallai pwysigrwydd y galwadau am gyfraith Hillsborough fod yn berthnasol i Gymru a hefyd yn berthnasol i gyfiawnder sy'n digwydd yng Nghymru. Ac wrth gwrs, nid yw cyfiawnder wedi'i ddatganoli. Pe bai wedi'i ddatganoli, rwy'n credu efallai y gallem symud yn gynt ac mewn modd llawer mwy blaengar mewn perthynas â'r mater hwn. Ond rwy'n sicr yn ei archwilio; mae gennyf ddiddordeb mawr ynddo, ac rwy'n hapus i ymgysylltu â'r Aelod ac eraill i edrych arno ymhellach.