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English: I just wanted to say that it's very appropriate that we acknowledge the support of the Deputy Minister for this project. They have allocated £1 million and we are receiving every possible support and encouragement from the Welsh Government to proceed with this project.
Welsh: Roeddwn i jest am ddweud mai priodol iawn ydy cydnabod cefnogaeth y Dirprwy Weinidog i'r prosiect yma. Maen nhw wedi neilltuo £1 miliwn, ac rydyn ni'n derbyn pob cefnogaeth a phob anogaeth gan Lywodraeth Cymru i fwrw ymlaen â'r prosiect yma.
English: I'm very pleased to hear that. One final question from me. There is another very important institution in Aberystwyth, the university. And I just wanted to know to what extent you are working with the university and are there opportunities in terms of funding. Are there partnerships that could be created that would benefit both important national institutions? Are there opportunities there to collaborate in general terms, but specifically in financial terms?
Welsh: Rwy'n falch iawn i glywed hynny. Un cwestiwn olaf sydd gyda fi. Wrth gwrs, mae yna sefydliad pwysig cenedlaethol arall yn Aberystwyth, sef y brifysgol. Roeddwn i jest am wybod i ba raddau rydych chi'n cydweithio â'r brifysgol, ac a oes yna gyfleon o ran ariannu. A oes yna bartneriaethau a allai gael eu creu rhyngoch chi fyddai o les i'r ddau sefydliad pwysig cenedlaethol, yn fy nhyb i, wrth gwrs? A oes yna gyfleon yna i gydweithio'n gyffredinol, ond yn benodol a oes yna gyfleoedd ariannol?
English: Thank you, Helen Mary, for that question. There are two important public bodies who are neighbours of ours, if truth be told, namely the Hywel Dda trust and the university. Now, I will look to the university first of all. There is a collaborative agreement in existence, and we do have an excellent relationship with Elizabeth Treasure, the vice-chancellor. We are working together at a number of different levels and there are members of their staff who are trustees of the library. So it is a constructive, collaborative relationship at many levels. I'm also pleased to say that that is true of the Hywel Dda health trust. We have assisted them a great deal during the COVID-19 pandemic, and at the moment we are considering the possibility of seeing the Hywel Dda health trust establishing some kind of teaching academy here in the library. We are looking at that possibility as we speak. That's important for two reasons: it does demonstrate that the national library can work in partnership with organisations outwith the cultural sector as well as within it, but also it can generate a very important income source for the library, too.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Helen Mary, am y cwestiwn yna. Mae yna ddau gorff cyhoeddus pwysig yn gymdogion inni, mewn gwirionedd, sef y brifysgol ac ymddiriedolaeth Hywel Dda hefyd. Mi af i i'r brifysgol i ddechrau. Mae yna gytundeb cydweithredol yn bodoli rhyngon ni, mae gennym ni berthynas ardderchog efo Elizabeth Treasure, yr is-ganghellor, ac rydyn ni'n gweithio ar sawl lefel. Ac mae yna aelodau o'u staff nhw hefyd yn ymddiriedolwyr yn y llyfrgell. Felly, mae hi'n berthynas ddyddiol, gydweithredol, adeiladol iawn ar sawl lefel. Mae'n dda gen i ddweud hefyd bod hynny'n wir am ymddiriedolaeth iechyd Hywel Dda. Rydyn ni wedi eu cynorthwyo nhw'n helaeth yn ystod y cyfnod COVID-19 yma, ac mi ydyn ni ar hyn o bryd yn ystyried y posibilrwydd o weld ymddiriedolaeth Hywel Dda yn sefydlu rhyw fath o academi ddysgu yma yn y llyfrgell. Rydyn ni'n edrych ar y posibilrwydd yna ar hyn o bryd. Mae hynny'n bwysig am ddau reswm: mae'n dangos bod y llyfrgell genedlaethol yn medru gweithio mewn partneriaeth gyda chyrff tu allan i'r sector ddiwylliannol yn ogystal â'r sector ddiwylliannol, ond hefyd mi all ddod ag incwm pwysig iawn i'r llyfrgell.
English: Thank you very much, Pedr. I will now draw this agenda item to a close. Thank you very much to both of you for your attendance and for your evidence. We will, of course, be sending you a transcript of this morning's session just so you can check it for accuracy. So thank you very much and goodbye. For fellow Members, can we now take a break of around 10 minutes before we're joined by the Deputy Minister? So, if I could ask the broadcasters to bring the broadcast to an end.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Pedr. A gyda hynny, fe wnaf i dynnu'r eitem yma ar yr agenda i ben. Diolch yn fawr iawn i'r ddau ohonoch chi am eich presenoldeb a'ch tystiolaeth. Byddwn ni'n danfon atoch chi, fel arfer, drawsgrifiad o beth sydd wedi cael ei ddweud er mwyn ichi allu bod yn sicr ein bod ni wedi cofnodi popeth yn iawn. Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn a hwyl fawr ichi. I'm cyd-Aelodau, gallwn ni gael brêc bach o ryw 10 munud cyn inni weld y Dirprwy Weinidog. Felly os caf i ofyn i'r darlledwyr ddod â'r darllediad i ben.
English: Good morning and welcome back to this meeting of our Senedd's Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee, with apologies that we are slightly late in recommencing. We have had some technical difficulties, but everything seems to be working now. So, I turn to item 3 on our agenda, which is further discussions on the tailored review of the national library. We welcome the Deputy Minister Dafydd Elis-Thomas and two of his officials. So, if I could just ask you to introduce yourselves, officials, and then, if it's okay with you, Dafydd, we will move immediately to questions.
Welsh: Bore da a chroeso nôl i gyfarfod Pwyllgor Diwylliant, y Gymraeg a Chyfathrebu ein Senedd ni, gydag ymddiheuriadau ein bod ni'n ailgychwyn tipyn bach yn hwyr. Dŷn ni wedi cael problemau technegol, ond mae popeth yn iawn nawr. So, dwi'n troi at eitem 3 ar yr agenda, sef i drafod ymhellach yr adolygiad o'r llyfrgell genedlaethol. Dŷn ni'n croesawu atom ni y Dirprwy Weinidog Dafydd Elis-Thomas a dau o'i swyddogion. So, os caf i jest ofyn i chi gyflwyno eich hunain, y swyddogion, a wedyn, os mae hynny'n iawn gyda chi, Dafydd, awn ni'n syth mewn i gwestiynau.
English: Thank you. I hope you can still hear me.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Dwi'n gobeithio eich bod chi'n dal yn fy nghlywed i.
English: Yes, we can.
Welsh: Yn dal i'ch clywed chi.
English: Welcome. Steffan.
Welsh: Croeso. A Steffan.
English: Good morning. I'm Steffan Roberts, deputy director of culture and sport.
Welsh: Bore da. Steffan Roberts, dirprwy gyfarwyddwr diwylliant a chwaraeon.
English: Thank you, Chair. Good morning, Minister.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Gadeirydd. Bore da, Weinidog.
English: Steffan, did you want to come in, and then I will turn to Jason?
Welsh: Steffan, ydych chi am ddod mewn, ac wedyn mi wnaf droi at Jason?
English: Good morning. Thank you, Chair. If I could just add, the shadow of austerity is cast over all of these budgets, and now the challenges of COVID are in addition to that. Just to echo what the Deputy Minister's just said, we haven't cut budgets. The budgets have been stable, but we haven't been in a position to provide real term budgets that would have increased with inflation. So, there are challenges in looking to the past, there are also current challenges and challenges for the future. We don't yet know what the budget is for next year, for example, and we also know that next year's budget will be a one-year budget. So, there are historical financial challenges, and challenges for the present and the future too.
Welsh: Bore da. Diolch, Gadeirydd. Jest i ychwanegu, yn amlwg mae cysgod y cyfnod o gyni yn amlwg dros y cyllidebau i gyd, a nawr mae'r heriau COVID ar ben hynny. Felly, yn sicr, jest i atgyfnerthu beth mae'r Dirprwy Weinidog wedi ei ddweud fanna, dŷn ni ddim wedi torri'r cyllidebau. Mae'r cyllidebau wedi bod yn sefydlog, ond dŷn ni eto ddim wedi bod mewn sefyllfa i ddarparu cyllidebau mewn termau real sydd wedi tyfu gyda chwyddiant, wrth gwrs. Felly, mae yna heriau yn edrych yn ôl i'r gorffennol, mae yna heriau presennol, ac mae yna heriau i'r dyfodol. Dŷn ni ddim yn gwybod eto beth yw'r gyllideb ar gyfer y flwyddyn nesaf, er enghraifft, a dŷn ni hefyd yn gwybod mai cyllideb ar gyfer un flwyddyn fydd y gyllideb flwyddyn nesaf. Felly, mae yna heriau cyllidol hanesyddol, ac yn edrych i'r presennol a'r dyfodol hefyd.
English: Minister, are you in a position to stay with us for an additional five or 10 minutes?
Welsh: Gweinidog, ydych chi mewn sefyllfa i aros gyda ni am ryw bum neu 10 munud ychwanegol?
English: I will stay with you as long as you wish to speak to me. I think that's the response to that.
Welsh: Mi arhosa i gyda chi cyhyd ag yr ydych chi'n dymuno siarad efo fi, dwi'n meddwl ydy'r ateb i hwnna.
English: Thank you. Because we need to -
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, achos mae eisiau i ni -
English: And I'm following my usual practice of responding to questions in the language that they're asked, so I do look forward to a Welsh question so I can respond to it in Welsh, but that's been my practice and I do tend to adhere to it.
Welsh: A dwi'n dilyn fy arfer o ateb cwestiynau yn yr iaith maen nhw'n cael eu gofyn, felly dwi'n edrych ymlaen at gwestiwn Cymraeg fel y gallaf i ei ateb o'n Gymraeg, ond dyna ydy fy arfer i wedi bod a dwi'n tueddu i lynu wrth arferion fel yna.
English: Likewise for me. John.
Welsh: A finnau'r un peth. John.
English: I see that Steffan wants to come in.
Welsh: Dwi'n gweld bod Steffan eisiau dweud rhywbeth.
English: Steffan, do you want to come in?
Welsh: Steffan, ydych chi eisiau dod i mewn?
English: That's good to hear.
Welsh: Mae hwnna'n dda i glywed.
English: I have two questions. First of all, on the library's engagement with people, I know that the report had said that the library's location in Aberystwyth was a challenge, as well as a benefit. But, Minister, how do you think the library can improve its engagement across Wales?
Welsh: Gaf i droi, felly - ? Dau gwestiwn sydd gen i. Yn gyntaf, ynglŷn â'r ffordd mae'r llyfrgell yn cysylltu â phobl, rwy'n gwybod bod yr adroddiad wedi dweud ei fod e'n her bod y llyfrgell yn Aberystwyth, ond hefyd bod yna fanteision i hynny hefyd. Ond yma mha ffordd, Weinidog, ydych chi'n credu gall y llyfrgell wella ei gwaith ymgysylltu ledled Cymru?
English: Thank you. In terms of the commercial and digital performance of the national library, we heard earlier from the library that they would like to improve their performance there, but, referring to what you said earlier, they said that they needed more funding to do that. So, how so you think that they can improve their digital and commercial performance, and what's your response to the request, because that's what it was, for enhanced funding?
Welsh: Diolch. Ynglŷn â pherfformiad masnachol a digidol y llyfrgell, fe glywon ni'n gynharach wrth y llyfrgell a oedd yn dweud yr hoffan nhw wella eu perfformiad ynglŷn â hwnna, ond, yn sôn am beth a ddywedoch chi'n gynharach, roedd eisiau mwy o gyllid arnyn nhw. Nawr, ym mha ffordd ydych chi'n credu y gallan nhw wella'u perfformiad digidol a hefyd masnachol, a beth yw'ch ymateb chi i'r alwad, achos dyna beth oedd e, mwy neu lai, am fwy o arian?
English: Well, my response to the request for further funding is that I wouldn't agree with that request, because I don't think that that should be the ambition. If memory serves me correctly, and Jason will correct me if I'm wrong, 93 per cent of all library revenue is accrued from Welsh Government. That is an unacceptable situation for a public body that should have international standing and commercial partnerships with all sorts of different possibilities available to it. In comparing what the museums and galleries have done with the library, there is a greater understanding of the importance of commercial investments, commercial partnerships, and funding and revenue coming from those sources. I'm not talking here of changing the free-admission policy, because that's also very important in terms of what I was talking about earlier, namely the accessibility of these sites. So, I do very much hope that, as the library, the museums, and galleries work more closely together, we will be able to see the possibilities of investment in commercial partnership, in cultural national institutions, similar to what has developed superbly, as far as I can see, under the leadership of Huw Francis at the National Botanic Garden of Wales. So, these things are possible if there is clear leadership in place and there is that possibility of collaboration. But the vision must be more open than it perhaps has been in the past, and it shouldn't return to Government habitually to seek support. I think Jason does want to contribute to this point.
Welsh: Wel, mae fy ymateb i i'r alwad am fwy o arian yn un nad ydw i ddim yn cytuno ag o, am nad ydw i'n meddwl mai dyna y dylai fod yn uchelgais. Naw deg tri y cant, os dwi'n cofio'n iawn - mi gaiff Jason fy nghywiro fi - ar hyn o bryd, o holl refeniw y llyfrgell, sydd yn deillio o Lywodraeth Cymru. Mae honno'n sefyllfa annerbyniol i gorff cyhoeddus a ddylai fod â statws rhyngwladol a phartneriaethau masnachol o ddifrif gyda phob math o bosibiliadau. Mae'n rhaid i mi gael cymharu beth mae'r amgueddfeydd a'r orielau wedi bod yn ei wneud efo'r llyfrgell; mae yna fwy o ddealltwriaeth o bwysigrwydd buddsoddiadau masnachol, partneriaethau masnachol, a chyllid a refeniw yn dod o fanno. Dwi ddim yn sôn rŵan am newid y drefn o fynediad am ddim, oherwydd mae hynny'n bwysig iawn, hefyd, fel rhan o beth rydym ni wedi sôn amdano fo yn gynharach, sef hygyrchedd y llefydd yma. Ac felly, dwi'n gobeithio y bydd modd inni, wrth i'r llyfrgell a'r amgueddfeydd a'r orielau weithio'n agosach gyda'i gilydd, weld patrwm o bosibilrwydd buddsoddiad mewn partneriaethau masnachol, mewn sefydliadau cenedlaethol diwylliannol, rhywbeth tebyg i beth sydd wedi datblygu yn rhagorol, hyd y gallaf i ei weld, dan arweiniad Huw Francis, yng Ngardd Fotaneg Genedlaethol Cymru. Felly, mae'r peth yma yn bosib os yw'r arweiniad clir yna a'r posibilrwydd o gydweithio. Ond mae'n rhaid i'r weledigaeth fod yn un fwy agored nag y mae'r weledigaeth, o bosib, wedi bod yn y gorffennol, a pheidio â dod yn ôl at y Llywodraeth yn gyson i chwilio am gefnogaeth. Dwi'n gweld bod Jason eisiau dweud rhywbeth.
English: If I could just add to that, Deputy Minister, just to note that the library is working on a new strategy for this ensuing period, so that is a focus of ours at the moment. And you've hit upon two important themes there, which will be prominent in the strategy, looking forward. The digital strategy is crucial, as is the development of the library as a destination, which would then be a way of generating income. As we said earlier, we don't know what the funding situation will be for next year, but in terms of capital, those are two very clear and important themes for the future, and we will certainly be looking at them.
Welsh: Jest i ychwanegu, Dirprwy Weinidog, jest i nodi, mewn ffordd, hefyd, fod y llyfrgell yn gweithio ar ei strategaeth newydd ar gyfer y tymor nesaf, felly mae hwnna'n faes sy'n ffocws i ni ar hyn o bryd. Ac rŷch chi wedi taro fanna ar ddwy thema bwysig iawn sydd yn amlwg ar gyfer y strategaeth o edrych ymlaen. Felly, mae'r strategaeth ddigidol yn hanfodol a hefyd datblygu'r llyfrgell yn gyrchfan sy'n fodd, wedyn, i greu incwm. Felly, fel dywedon ni yn gynharach, dydyn ni ddim yn gwybod beth yw'r sefyllfa gyllidol ar gyfer y flwyddyn nesaf, ond o ran cyfalaf, mae'r rheina yn ddwy thema glir a phwysig ar gyfer y dyfodol, ac fe fyddwn ni, yn sicr, yn edrych ar y rheina.
English: If I may just add to that.
Welsh: A gaf i jest ychwanegu at hynna?
English: Aberystwyth is a cultural western capital, or that's what it should be, in my view, for the future, and the fact that we will have further investment, I hope, on the capital side, through the development of a contemporary art gallery, which will be devolved throughout Wales, then there is an opportunity for Aberystwyth to develop further in that sense, in partnership with the space provided within the national library and the vast collection of contemporary art that they already hold. These artworks shouldn't be held within the stacks; they should be available for the public to view them, either digitally or physically, or by actually taking this artwork around Wales. That is the vision we hope to announce before the end of this year, or certainly early in the next year.
Welsh: Oherwydd mae Aberystwyth yn rhyw fath o brifddinas orllewinol ddiwylliannol, neu felly dylai hi fod, dwi'n meddwl, at y dyfodol, ac mae'r ffaith y bydd gyda ni fwy o fuddsoddiad eto, dwi'n gobeithio, ar yr ochr gyfalafol, drwy'r cynllun ynglŷn â'r oriel gelf gyfoes ddatganoledig drwy Gymru, mae yna gyfle i Aberystwyth dyfu eto yn y cyfeiriad yna, mewn partneriaeth rhwng gofod y llyfrgell genedlaethol a'r casgliad sylweddol o gelf gyfoes sydd yno. Nid i mewn yn y stacs y mae'r gweithiau celf yma i fod; maen nhw i fod allan i gael eu gweld gan y cyhoedd yng Nghymru, naill ai'n ddigidol neu drwy ymweliadau, neu drwy gylchdroi y gwahanol gelfweithiau o gwmpas Cymru. Honna ydy'r weledigaeth y byddwn ni yn ei chyhoeddi, rydw i'n gobeithio, cyn diwedd y flwyddyn yma neu yn sicr yn gynnar yn y flwyddyn nesaf.
English: Thank you very much for that, Deputy Minister, and thank you to your officials too. I will draw this item to a close at that point. I'm sure we will want to discuss the situation further with you as the process of responding to the review progresses, as you've described it to us previously. Thank you very much, and as usual, of course, we will send you a transcript of this conversation so that you can check it for accuracy. So, with those few words, I will draw that item to a close. Thank you very much. Fellow Members, I do apologise, the break will have to be reduced to five minutes now. So, if you could return just after half past.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi, Ddirprwy Weinidog, a diolch yn fawr iawn i'ch swyddogion. Gwnaf i dynnu'r eitem yma, felly, i ben. Dwi'n siŵr y byddwn ni am drafod y sefyllfa ymhellach gyda chi fel mae'r broses o ymateb i'r adolygiad yn mynd yn ei blaen, fel dŷch chi wedi disgrifio i ni yn y gorffennol. Diolch yn fawr iawn, a byddwn ni fel arfer, wrth gwrs, yn anfon trawsgrifiad o'r sgwrs yma atoch chi er mwyn ichi sicrhau ein bod ni wedi cofnodi popeth yn gywir. So, gyda hynny i gyd, gwnaf i ddod â'r eitem yna i ben. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi. I'm cyd-Aelodau, mae'n ddrwg gen i, mae'n rhaid i fi dynnu'r brêc i lawr. Cawn ni bum munud rŵan. So, gobeithio byddwch chi'n gallu dod nôl jest ar ôl hanner awr wedi.
English: Good morning, once again, and welcome back to this meeting of the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee at the Senedd. We turn now to item 4 on our agenda, which is support for news media in Wales. I'm pleased to welcome our witnesses.
Welsh: Bore da, eto, a chroeso nôl i gyfarfod y Pwyllgor Diwylliant, Iaith Gymraeg a Chyfathrebu ein Senedd. Dŷn ni'n troi rŵan at eitem 4 ar ein hagenda ni, sef cefnogaeth i newyddiaduriaeth yng Nghymru. Dwi'n faich iawn o groesawu'r tystion sydd gyda ni.
English: Thank you very much, and welcome to you all.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi, a chroeso i chi i gyd.
English: Ifan, over to you now.
Welsh: Ifan, drosodd i chi nawr.
English: It emerges from what you said, Ifan. Now, we take the arm's-length principle for granted in this conversation. You wouldn't want to receive funding directly from any specific Minister, but you also said that whatever body distributed the funding it should have some level of understanding of what good journalism looks like. And if I could refer this to you first of all, but of course others are welcome to contribute. Do you think that a new body would need to be created? At the moment, the funding provided to Golwg360 is provided through the Books Council of Wales. So, would the Government need to create a new body, because I know that they're not going to be very eager to do that, or could we build that journalistic capability into one of the institutions we already have - the arts council, the books council, perhaps? Do you have any ideas on that?
Welsh: Mae'n deillio o rywbeth y dywedoch chi, Ifan, ynglŷn â - . Rydyn ni'n cymryd y principle hyd braich yn ganiataol yn y sgwrs yma. Dydych chi ddim eisiau derbyn pres yn uniongyrchol gan unrhyw Weinidog penodol. Ond dywedoch chi fod angen i ba bynnag corff oedd yn dosbarthu'r arian fod â rhyw lefel o allu a dealltwriaeth o beth yw newyddiaduraeth dda. Rwy'n cyfeirio hwn atoch chi i ddechrau, ond os yw pobl eraill eisiau cyfrannu hefyd - . Ydych chi'n credu y bydd eisiau creu corff newydd? Ar hyn o bryd, mae'r arian sy'n mynd i Golwg360 yn mynd trwy Cyngor Llyfrau Cymru. A fydd angen i'r Llywodraeth greu corff newydd, achos dwi'n gwybod nad ydyn nhw'n mynd i fod yn awyddus iawn i wneud hynny, neu oes yna fodd i adeiladu'r gallu newyddiadurol yna i mewn i un o'r sefydliadau sydd gennym ni ar hyn o bryd - y cyngor llyfrau, y cyngor celfyddydau, beth bynnag? Oes gennych chi unrhyw syniad ynglŷn â hyn?
English: Thank you very much. That's very helpful.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Mae hwnna'n help mawr.
English: So, we will send a transcript of proceedings to you so you can check it for accuracy, and may I say thank you very much and goodbye?
Welsh: So, gyda hyn i gyd, byddwn ni'n danfon trawsgrifiad i chi o'r rhan yma o'r cyfarfod, fel eich bod chi'n gallu sicrhau ein bod ni wedi nodi popeth yn iawn, ac a gaf i ddweud diolch yn fawr eto i chi a hwyl fawr?
English: We will move to item 5 on our agenda, Members, which is papers to note. So, our witnesses are welcome to leave us at this point, and thank you, once again. So, item 5.1 is the Welsh Government's response to the short report on the impact of the COVID-19 outbreak on the creative industries. Are we content to note? Yes. And 5.2 is the Welsh Government's response to the short report on the impact of COVID-19 on journalism and local media. Mick.
Welsh: Gwnawn ni symud at eitem 5 ar ein hagenda ni, Aelodau, sef y papurau i'w nodi. So, mae croeso cynnes i'r tystion ein gadael ni nawr, a diolch eto. So, eitem 5.1 yw ymateb y Llywodraeth i'r adroddiad byr ar effaith y pandemig ar y diwydiannau creadigol. Ydym ni'n hapus i'w nodi? Ydym. A 5.2 yw ymateb gan y Llywodraeth i'r adroddiad ar effaith y pandemig ar newyddiaduraeth a chyfryngau lleol. Mick.
English: Item 5.3, correspondence from the Welsh Government on music education. Happy to note? Thank you. Item 5.4, now, this is a new item. It's a letter from the FDA on the possibility of job losses at the national museum and national library, and may I suggest that we discuss this in private session, if we do wish to respond? Is that acceptable to Members? Thank you very much.
Welsh: Eitem 5.3, sef gohebiaeth gan y Llywodraeth ar addysg gerddoriaeth. Hapus i nodi? Diolch. Ac eitem 5.4, mae hon yn eitem newydd, sef y llythyr gan yr undeb perthnasol ynglŷn â'r posibiliad o golli swyddi yn yr amgueddfa ac yn y llyfrgell genedlaethol. Ac a gaf i awgrymu ein bod ni'n trafod hwn yn y sesiwn breifat, os ydym ni am ymateb iddyn nhw o gwbl? Ydy hynny'n dderbyniol? Diolch yn fawr.
English: If we're content to note those papers, I suggest that we move to item 6, which is a motion under Standing Order 17.42 (ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. Everyone content? May I ask, therefore, that we bring the broadcast to an end?
Welsh: Felly, os ydym ni'n hapus i nodi'r papurau, dwi'n awgrymu ein bod ni'n symud i eitem 6 ar yr agenda, sef cynnig oddi wrthyf i, o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 (ix), ein bod ni'n gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod. Ydym ni'n hapus? Felly, a gaf i ofyn ein bod ni'n dod â'r darlledu i ben?
English: Thank you very much, Chair. I am aware that time is against us and a number of questions that I was going to ask have been partly answered already. But good afternoon to you, Lord True.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Gadeirydd. Dwi yn ymwybodol o amser, ac mae nifer o'r cwestiynau roeddwn i'n mynd i'w gofyn wedi cael yn rhannol eu hateb yn barod. Ond prynhawn da i chi, yr Arglwydd True.