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English: We're debating removing the defence of reasonable punishment here today, and if I can go on just to comment on the new curriculum, the curriculum guidance is clear: learners should develop an understanding of the range of legal rights and protections that they have. We will ensure that that happens as the curriculum is developed. Therefore, I urge Members to reject the amendments proposed by Janet Finch-Saunders, as I don't think they are helpful in terms of what the awareness-raising duty, which already exists, needs to achieve.
Welsh: Rydym yn trafod cael gwared ar yr amddiffyniad o gosb resymol yma heddiw, ac os gallaf fynd ymlaen dim ond i wneud sylwadau ar y cwricwlwm newydd, mae canllawiau'r cwricwlwm yn glir: dylai dysgwyr ddatblygu dealltwriaeth o'r ystod o hawliau cyfreithiol ac amddiffyniadau sydd ganddyn nhw. Byddwn yn sicrhau bod hynny'n digwydd wrth i'r cwricwlwm gael ei ddatblygu. Felly, anogaf yr Aelodau i wrthod y gwelliannau a gynigiwyd gan Janet Finch-Saunders, gan nad wyf yn credu eu bod yn ddefnyddiol o ran yr hyn y mae angen i'r ddyletswydd codi ymwybyddiaeth, sy'n bodoli eisoes, ei sicrhau.
English: The question is that amendment 1 should be agreed. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] I will move to the vote and open the vote on amendment 1. Close the vote. In favour 15, no abstentions, 38 against. And, therefore, amendment 1 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 1? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Dwi'n symud i'r bleidlais, felly, ac yn agor y bleidlais ar welliant 1. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 15, neb yn ymatal, 38 yn erbyn. Ac felly mae gwelliant 1 wedi ei wrthod.
English: Are you moving?
Welsh: A ydych chi'n cynnig?
English: The question is that amendment 2 be agreed. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] I will therefore open the vote on amendment 2. Close the vote. In favour 15, no abstentions, 38 against. Therefore, amendment 2 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid gwelliant 2? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Dwi'n agor y bleidlais, felly, ar welliant 2. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 15, neb yn ymatal, 38 yn erbyn. Felly, mae gwelliant 2 wedi ei wrthod.
English: The question is that amendment 3 be agreed. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] I will therefore open the vote on amendment 3. Close the vote. In favour 15, no abstentions, 38 against. And, therefore, amendment 3 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 3? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Felly, dwi'n agor y bleidlais ar welliant 3. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 15, neb yn ymatal, 38 yn erbyn. Ac felly mae gwelliant 3 wedi ei wrthod.
English: Amendment 4 is moved. The question is that amendment 4 be agreed. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] I will therefore open the vote on amendment 4. Close the vote. In favour 15, no abstentions, 38 against. Therefore, amendment 4 is not agreed.
Welsh: Mae gwelliant 4 wedi ei symud. Felly, y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 4? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Felly, dwi'n agor y bleidlais ar welliant 4. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 15, neb yn ymatal, 38 yn erbyn. Ac felly mae gwelliant 4 wedi'i wrthod.
English: The question is that amendment 5 be agreed. Is there any objection? [ Objection.] Therefore, I open the vote on amendment 5. Close the vote. In favour 15, no abstentions, 38 against. Therefore, amendment 5 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 5? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Felly, dwi'n agor y bleidlais ar welliant 5. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 15, neb yn ymatal, 38 yn erbyn. Felly, mae gwelliant 5 wedi'i wrthod.
English: That brings us to the second group of amendments, and this group of amendments relates to reporting requirements. Amendment 6 is the lead amendment in this group. I call on Janet Finch-Saunders to move the lead amendments and to speak to the other amendment in the group. Janet Finch-Saunders.
Welsh: Daw hyn â ni at yr ail grŵp o welliannau, ac mae'r grŵp yma yn ymwneud â gofynion adrodd. Gwelliant 6 yw'r prif welliant yn y grŵp yma. Dwi'n galw ar Janet Finch-Saunders i gynnig y prif welliant ac i siarad am y gwelliannau yn y grŵp yma. Janet Finch-Saunders.
English: The Plaid Cymru group will be supporting these amendments. I personally feel that the Government's been very generous in accepting them. I don't anticipate that there will be negative consequences for the Government to report upon. Certainly, the experience in the Republic of Ireland does not suggest this. Janet Finch-Saunders, in responding to the previous debate, referenced the poll in New Zealand. Of course, the poll in New Zealand was just that - it was an opinion poll commissioned by the campaign group that had campaigned against the repeal of the defence of reasonable chastisement, and there is a great historical trend here, is there not, Llywydd? There is always a tendency, from the time of Aristotle and Pliny, to reflect back on the generation below us and see them as worse behaved than we were. This, of course, is very rarely borne out by the facts. I would refer Members to the Irish experience, where none of the anticipated difficulties have occurred, but since the Government is prepared to accept this amendment, and since it's creating work for them and not for us, Plaid Cymru will happily support the amendments as they stand, though of course we would hope to be the responsible Government in some of the reporting period.
Welsh: Bydd grŵp Plaid Cymru yn cefnogi'r gwelliannau hyn. Yn bersonol, teimlaf fod y Llywodraeth wedi bod yn hael iawn wrth eu derbyn. Nid wyf yn rhagweld y bydd canlyniadau negyddol i'r Llywodraeth adrodd arnynt. Yn sicr, nid yw'r profiad yng Ngweriniaeth Iwerddon yn awgrymu hyn. Wrth ymateb i'r ddadl flaenorol, cyfeiriodd Janet Finch-Saunders at yr arolwg yn Seland Newydd. Wrth gwrs, dyna'n union oedd y bleidlais yn Seland Newydd - roedd yn arolwg barn a gomisiynwyd gan y grŵp ymgyrchu a oedd wedi ymgyrchu yn erbyn diddymu'r amddiffyniad o gosb resymol, ac mae tuedd hanesyddol gref yma, onid oes, Llywydd? Y mae tuedd bob amser, o amser Aristotle a Pliny, i fyfyrio ar y genhedlaeth iau na ni a'u gweld yn ymddwyn yn waeth nag yr oeddem ni. Anaml iawn y caiff hyn, wrth gwrs, ei gadarnhau gan y ffeithiau. Byddwn yn cyfeirio Aelodau at brofiad Iwerddon, lle nad oedd yr un o'r anawsterau a ragwelwyd wedi digwydd, ond gan fod y Llywodraeth yn barod i dderbyn y gwelliant hwn, a chan ei fod yn creu gwaith iddynt hwy ac nid i ni, bydd Plaid Cymru yn falch o gefnogi'r gwelliannau fel y maen nhw ar hyn o bryd, er y byddem, wrth gwrs, yn gobeithio mai ni fydd y Llywodraeth gyfrifol yn ystod rhywfaint o'r cyfnod adrodd.
English: Just to move to the vote.
Welsh: Dim ond i symud i'r bleidlais.
English: Okay. Response, therefore. If amendment 6 is not agreed, amendment 11 will fall. The question is that amendment 6 be agreed. Does any Member object? No. Therefore amendment 6 is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Welsh: Ocê. Ymateb, felly. Os gwrthodir gwelliant 6, bydd gwelliant 11 yn methu. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 6? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Nac oes. Felly derbynnir gwelliant 6 yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36.
English: Group 3 is our next group of amendments. The group relates to a duty to ensure sufficient funding. Amendment 7 is the lead amendment, and I call on Janet Finch-Saunders to move and speak to the lead amendment - Janet Finch-Saunders.
Welsh: Grŵp 3 yw'r trydydd grŵp o welliannau, sydd yn ymwneud â dyletswydd i sicrhau cyllid digonol. Gwelliant 7 yw'r prif welliant yn y grŵp yma, a dwi'n galw ar Janet Finch-Saunders i gynnig y prif welliant ac i siarad i'r gwelliannau - Janet Finch-Saunders.
English: You've talked about the additional costs. What about the savings that may occur because of a lack of psychological damage to children from being hit, and what about the savings that can be made in that parents not starting off with hitting a child lightly don't move on to hitting them more violently?
Welsh: Rydych chi wedi sôn am y costau ychwanegol. Beth am yr arbedion a all ddigwydd drwy osgoi'r niwed seicolegol y gall plant ei ddioddef yn sgil cael eu taro, a beth am yr arbedion y gellir eu gwneud o ran atal rhieni rhag dechrau taro plentyn yn ysgafn ac o bosib symud ymlaen i'w taro'n galetach?
English: Well, in respect of that, I think, if you'd been involved in the debates all through the Stages, one of the conflicting arguments is that children can be very badly psychologically damaged by coercive control and other forms of punishment that affect their mental health and well-being. So, I don't really want to agree about the psychological impact of a child having what is considered by many parents reasonable chastisement. Finally, I draw Members' attention to evidence from the Welsh Local Government Association, who said at Stage 1 that there must be 'a commitment that, whatever the costs are, those costs are met because it is legislation that is being led by the National Assembly for Wales.' We are in doubt that this should be the case. Therefore, I commend this amendment to be supported.
Welsh: Wel, o ran hynny, rwy'n credu, pe byddech chi wedi bod yn rhan o'r dadleuon drwy'r Cyfnodau i gyd, un o'r dadleuon croes yw y gall plant ddioddef niwed seicolegol mawr iawn yn sgil rheolaeth drwy orfodaeth a mathau eraill o gosbi sy'n cael effaith ar eu hiechyd meddwl a'u lles. Felly, dydw i ddim wir eisiau cytuno ynglŷn â'r effaith seicolegol pan fo plentyn yn cael yr hyn y mae llawer o rieni'n ei ystyried yn gosb resymol. Yn olaf, tynnaf sylw'r Aelodau at dystiolaeth gan Gymdeithas Llywodraeth Leol Cymru, a ddywedodd yng Nghyfnod 1 fod yn rhaid cael: ymrwymiad y caiff y costau hynny eu talu, beth bynnag yw'r costau, oherwydd ei bod yn ddeddfwriaeth y mae Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru yn arwain arni. Rydym yn amau mai dyma fel bydd hi. Felly, rwy'n argymell cefnogi'r gwelliant hwn.
English: Diolch, Llywydd. I would just like to put on record that, as the elected Member for Aberconwy, my own social services department, especially when it comes to work with families, is very overstretched, and that is plainly as a result of a lack of fair settlement to it. I can tell you, it does not really echo well for this Chamber that we are going to be passing legislation without amendments on cost, when one considers that, of 22 local authorities that have been approached for estimates, only three have been able to respond. I find that a very weak position for this Welsh Labour Government. But I will move to the amendments now, please.
Welsh: Diolch, Llywydd. Hoffwn ddweud ar goedd, fel yr aelod etholedig dros Aberconwy, fod fy adran gwasanaethau cymdeithasol fy hun, yn enwedig o ran gweithio gyda theuluoedd, dan bwysau mawr, ac mae hynny'n amlwg o ganlyniad i ddiffyg setliad teg iddo. Gallaf ddweud wrthych chi, nid yw'n adlewyrchu'n dda ar y Siambr hon a ninnau ar fin pasio deddfwriaeth heb welliannau ar gost, o gofio mai dim ond tri o'r 22 awdurdod lleol y gofynnwyd iddynt am amcangyfrifon sydd wedi gallu ymateb. Rwy'n gweld hynny'n sefyllfa wan iawn i'r Llywodraeth Lafur hon sydd gan Gymru. Ond symudaf ymlaen i'r gwelliannau nawr, os gwelwch yn dda.
English: The question is that amendment 7 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] I will therefore open the vote on amendment 7. Close the vote. In favour 15, no abstentions, 38 against. Therefore, amendment 7 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 7? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Felly, dwi'n agor y bleidlais ar welliant 7. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 15, neb yn ymatal, 38 yn erbyn. Ac felly, mae gwelliant 7 wedi'i wrthod.
English: Move?
Welsh: Cynnig?
English: The question is that amendment 8 be agreed. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] I will therefore open the vote on amendment 8. Close the vote. In favour 15, no abstentions, 38 against. Therefore, amendment 8 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 8? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Felly, dwi'n agor y bleidlais ar welliant 8. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 15, neb yn ymatal, 38 yn erbyn. Ac felly, mae gwelliant 8 wedi'i wrthod.
English: The next group of amendments is group 4, and the amendments relate to regulation-making powers in the Bill. Amendment 9 is the lead amendment and only amendment in this group. I call on Janet Finch-Saunders to move amendment 9 - Janet Finch-Saunders.
Welsh: Y grŵp nesaf o welliannau yw grŵp 4, a'r grŵp yma'n ymwneud â phwerau gwneud rheoliadau yn y Bil. Gwelliant 9 yw'r prif welliant, a'r unig welliant. Rwy'n galw ar Janet Finch-Saunders i gynnig gwelliant 9 - Janet Finch-Saunders.
English: Diolch, Llywydd. I speak to amendment 9, which my colleague Suzy Davies AM also tabled at Stage 2. This amends section 4 on regulation-making powers for Welsh Ministers. As Suzy noted in Stage 2, what is now section 4 is not a separate commencement power to section 1, and it is likely you will need regulatory powers to introduce the reports into the Bill's effectiveness as well as the awareness campaign. As it is drafted, section 4 may not give enough powers to the Deputy Minister during the course of the Bill to achieve her aims. As such, this amendment ensures the ability for the Assembly to bring anything the Deputy Minister wishes to introduce under section 1 of the Bill onto the floor of this Parliament. In her responses at Stage 2, the Deputy Minister noted that CLAC concluded there should be no Assembly procedure, and that wider powers were not necessary in her view. While I accept these points, we still aren't clear as to whether the provision she intends to introduce would be better suited to affirmative or negative procedures. Finally, the Deputy Minister confirmed that she would be keeping the powers under review coming up to Stage 3. Therefore, I would be grateful if she would update Members today on her thoughts about the implications of limited powers, especially if there are links between this Bill and other legislation that may require a wider power.
Welsh: Diolch, Llywydd. Siaradaf am welliant 9, a gyflwynwyd hefyd gan fy nghyd-Aelod Suzy Davies yng Nghyfnod 2. Mae hwn yn diwygio adran 4 o ran y pwerau sydd gan Weinidogion Cymru i wneud rheoliadau. Fel y dywedodd Suzy yng Nghyfnod 2, nid yw'r hyn sydd bellach yn adran 4 yn bŵer cychwyn ar wahân i adran 1, ac mae'n debygol y bydd angen pwerau rheoleiddio arnoch i gyflwyno'r adroddiadau i effeithiolrwydd y Bil yn ogystal â'r ymgyrch ymwybyddiaeth. Fe y mae wedi'i drafftio, mae'n bosibl na fydd adran 4 yn rhoi digon o bwerau i'r Dirprwy Weinidog yn ystod y Bil i gyflawni ei hamcanion. Fel y cyfryw, mae'r gwelliant hwn yn sicrhau gallu'r Cynulliad i gyflwyno unrhyw beth y dymuna'r Dirprwy Weinidog ei gyflwyno o dan adran 1 o'r Bil gerbron y Senedd hon. Yn ei hymatebion yng Nghyfnod 2, dywedodd y Dirprwy Weinidog fod y Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol wedi dod i'r casgliad na ddylid cael gweithdrefn Cynulliad, ac nad oedd angen pwerau ehangach yn ei barn hi. Er fy mod yn derbyn y pwyntiau hyn, nid ydym yn glir o hyd a fyddai'r ddarpariaeth y mae'n bwriadu ei chyflwyno yn fwy addas i weithdrefnau cadarnhaol neu weithdrefnau negyddol. Yn olaf, cadarnhaodd y Dirprwy Weinidog y byddai'n parhau i arolygu'r pwerau wrth nesáu at Gyfnod 3. Felly, byddwn yn ddiolchgar pe bai'n rhoi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf i Aelodau heddiw am ei barn am oblygiadau pwerau cyfyngedig, yn enwedig os oes cysylltiadau rhwng y Bil hwn a deddfwriaeth arall a allai fod angen pŵer ehangach.
English: It is of course the default position of these benches that we always want to be keeping an eye on whatever the Government is doing. From that point of view, I have some sympathy with what Janet Finch-Saunders is attempting to achieve with this amendment, but in this case it seems unnecessary. This is a simple repeal, this is not a complex piece of legislation, and if the Deputy Minister is content that this is unnecessary, then we are content to support her and not to support the amendment.
Welsh: Y sefyllfa naturiol ar y meinciau hyn, wrth gwrs, yw ein bod wastad eisiau cadw llygad ar beth bynnag y mae'r Llywodraeth yn ei wneud. Yn hynny o beth, mae gennyf rywfaint o gydymdeimlad â'r hyn y mae Janet Finch-Saunders yn ceisio'i gyflawni gyda'r gwelliant hwn, ond yn yr achos yma mae'n ymddangos yn ddianghenraid. Mae hyn yn ddiddymiad syml, nid yw hyn yn ddarn cymhleth o ddeddfwriaeth, ac os yw'r Dirprwy Weinidog yn fodlon bod hyn yn ddianghenraid, yna rydym yn fodlon ei chefnogi a pheidio â chefnogi'r gwelliant.
English: Thank you. The amendment is technical in nature and the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee were content that, in this case, no procedure was the appropriate procedure. The absence of an Assembly procedure does not mean that Ministers' decisions in relation to transitional powers cannot be scrutinised by Members. Any concerns about the Welsh Ministers' proposals could be put to me in the Senedd. This was a point made to the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee and, as I say, their final conclusion was: no procedure is the appropriate procedure for such a power. Introducing the possibility of annulment sends mixed messages to our key stakeholders when certainty has been given on the face of the Bill as to when the change in the law will commence. For this reason, I encourage Members to reject amendment 9 from Janet Finch Saunders, which goes against the Stage 1 report from the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee.
Welsh: Diolch. Mae'r gwelliant yn dechnegol ei natur ac roedd y Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol yn fodlon, yn hyn o beth, nad oedd yr un weithdrefn yn briodol. Nid yw'r ffaith nad oes gweithdrefn Cynulliad yn golygu na all Aelodau graffu ar benderfyniadau Gweinidogion mewn cysylltiad â phwerau trosiannol. Gallai unrhyw bryderon am gynigion Gweinidogion Cymru gael eu cyflwyno i mi yn y Senedd. Cyflëwyd hyn i'r Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol ac, fel y dywedais, eu casgliad terfynol oedd: nid oes unrhyw weithdrefn sy'n weithdrefn briodol ar gyfer pŵer o'r fath. Mae cyflwyno'r posibilrwydd o ddirymu yn anfon negeseuon cymysg i'n rhanddeiliaid allweddol pan fo sicrwydd wedi'i roi ar wyneb y Bil ynghylch pryd y bydd y newid yn y gyfraith yn dechrau. Oherwydd hyn, anogaf yr Aelodau i wrthod gwelliant 9 gan Janet Finch-Saunders, sy'n mynd yn groes i adroddiad Cyfnod 1 y Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol.
English: Move to the vote.
Welsh: Symud i'r bleidlais.
English: The question is that amendment 9 be agreed. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] Open the vote therefore on amendment 9. Close the vote. In favour 15, no abstentions, 38 against. Therefore, amendment 9 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 9? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Agor y bleidlais felly ar welliant 9. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 15, neb yn ymatal, 38 yn erbyn. Felly, gwrthodwyd gwelliant 9.
English: Do you move amendment 11?
Welsh: A ydych chi'n cynnig gwelliant 11?
English: The question is that amendment 11 be agreed. Does any Member object? Amendment 11 is therefore agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 11? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Felly, derbynnir gwelliant 11.
English: Group 5 is our final group of amendments, and the amendments relate to commencement. Amendment 10 is the lead amendment, and the only amendment. Janet Finch-Saunders to speak to amendment 10.
Welsh: Grŵp 5 yw'r grŵp nesaf, y grŵp olaf o welliannau, sy'n ymwneud â chychwyn. Gwelliant 10 yw'r prif welliant, yr unig welliant. Dwi'n galw ar Janet Finch-Saunders i gyflwyno gwelliant 10.
English: I read the amendment and was somewhat confused by its intent. I'd rather hoped that Janet Finch-Saunders's contribution to the debate might enlighten me. In fact, it has confused me further, because there were some points in her contribution when it sounded as if she was calling for the devolution of the criminal justice system to enable this place to have control over the Crown Prosecution Service and the police - and I would welcome that, of course, with open arms. And if Janet has reached that position, I am absolutely delighted. The amendment itself is muddled, and in Janet's contribution she shows remarkably little faith in the police service in Wales and in the Crown Prosecution Service here to work in a co-operative manner with the Welsh Government, with the devolved administration. The experience of this in other fields is quite the reverse; both the Crown Prosecution Service and the police are very open to being co-operative and supportive. I will happily give way.
Welsh: Darllenais i'r gwelliant a chefais i fy nrysu braidd gan ei fwriad. Roeddwn i wedi gobeithio y byddai cyfraniad Janet Finch-Saunders i'r ddadl yn fy ngoleuo. Mewn gwirionedd, mae hwnnw wedi fy nrysu i ymhellach, oherwydd yr oedd rhai pwyntiau yn ei chyfraniad pan oedd yn swnio fel pe bai'n galw am ddatganoli'r system cyfiawnder troseddol i alluogi'r lle hwn i gael rheolaeth dros Wasanaeth Erlyn y Goron a'r heddlu - a byddwn i'n croesawu hynny, wrth gwrs, gyda breichiau agored. Ac os yw Janet wedi dod i'r safbwynt hwnnw, rwyf wrth fy modd. Mae'r gwelliant ei hun yn ddryslyd, ac yng nghyfraniad Janet ychydig iawn o ffydd y mae hi'n ei ddangos yng ngwasanaeth yr heddlu yng Nghymru ac yng Ngwasanaeth Erlyn y Goron yma i weithio mewn modd cydweithredol gyda Llywodraeth Cymru, gyda'r weinyddiaeth ddatganoledig. Mae'r profiad o hyn mewn meysydd eraill yn gwbl groes; mae Gwasanaeth Erlyn y Goron a'r heddlu yn agored iawn i fod yn gydweithredol ac yn gefnogol. Rwy'n barod i ildio.
English: Thank you for giving way. As you noted, in the work that's been done on ACEs and prevention, but also on domestic abuse, the police indeed do work very much within policy frameworks set by Welsh Government. I've got no reason to anticipate they'd work in any different way with this.
Welsh: Diolch am ildio. Fel y gwnaethoch chi ei nodi, yn y gwaith a wnaed ar brofiadau niweidiol yn ystod plentyndod ac atal, ond hefyd ar gam-drin domestig, yn wir mae'r heddlu yn bendant yn gweithio o fewn fframweithiau polisi sydd wedi'u pennu gan Lywodraeth Cymru. Does gen i ddim rheswm i ragweld y bydden nhw'n gweithio mewn unrhyw ffordd wahanol gyda hyn.
English: I'm very grateful. I'm just a little bit confused by what appears to be a very different approach on the Plaid Cymru benches - and indeed on the Labour backbenches - towards this piece of legislation versus the EU withdrawal Bill that we were discussing earlier on this afternoon, where there have been some very clear statements about policy intention of the UK Government, and yet you all want amendments on the Bill in order to demonstrate that there's a clear commitment to those things, because you're afraid that people will roll back. And yet, on this particular Bill, there are some clear indications of policy intent from the Government, and it's quite clear that the Government has made its position -
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar iawn. Rwyf i wedi fy nrysu ychydig gan yr hyn sy'n ymddangos yn agwedd wahanol iawn ar feinciau Plaid Cymru - ac yn wir, ar feinciau cefn Llafur - tuag at y darn hwn o ddeddfwriaeth o'i gymharu â Bil ymadael yr UE yr oeddem ni'n ei drafod yn gynharach y prynhawn yma, lle y bu rhai datganiadau clir iawn am fwriad polisi Llywodraeth y DU, ac eto rydych chi i gyd eisiau gwelliannau ar y Bil er mwyn dangos bod ymrwymiad clir i'r pethau hynny, oherwydd mae arnoch chi ofn y bydd pobl yn mynd yn ôl ar bethau. Ac eto, ar y Bil penodol hwn, mae rhai arwyddion clir o fwriad polisi gan y Llywodraeth, ac mae'n eithaf amlwg bod y Llywodraeth wedi gwneud ei safbwynt -
English: Sorry, Darren, I need to continue my remarks. I take your point.
Welsh: Mae'n ddrwg gen' i, Darren, mae angen i mi barhau â fy sylwadau. Rwyf yn derbyn eich pwynt.
English: I appreciate that, but I'm just not sure why there is such a different approach.
Welsh: Rwy'n gwerthfawrogi hynny, ond nid wyf yn siŵr pam mae'r dull mor wahanol.
English: Well, allow me to explain.
Welsh: Wel, gadewch i mi egluro.
English: Please do.
Welsh: Gwnewch chi hynny.