English: Whilst I can understand why the Member has tabled amendment 143, I cannot support it and call on Members to reject it. The amendment proposes setting in legislation a requirement to reimburse costs without any acknowledgement of the benefits, financial or otherwise. It does not draw a distinction between set-up costs and the costs and opportunities arising from a new but enduring way of working. It also implies that councils and the Welsh Government would have to identify those costs directly applicable to this legislation forever and a day, no matter how small or inconsequential they might be, therefore creating a need for a new and bureaucratic system to record and track costs by setting up a specific hypothecated funding mechanism. I do not think that is the Member's intention, but it would be an inevitable consequence of setting such a provision in the legislation. However, let me be clear that we do recognise there will be a need to invest in the implementation of some aspects of this Bill. For example, we've already provided additional funding in recognition of the impacts of electoral reform amounting to some £2.2 million over the last two financial years. We will continue to discuss with local government through the WLGA what further support is needed to implement other changes. There is also an important principle here about the funding of local government that we should not lose. The majority of our funding for local government is unhypothecated. Unlike grants, where we can, and often do, require some activities to be prioritised and done in a certain way, funding through the local government settlement is there for councils to make their own decisions about delivering statutory duties and non-statutory services. We already have an agreed arrangement, tried and tested, with local government, which considers all aspects of principal council funding in the round. This includes identifying and considering any significant new ongoing costs faced by principal councils, whether from wage inflation or arising from legislation. The finance sub-group of the partnership council exists to ensure appropriate consideration is given to these matters, and I therefore cannot support this amendment. Diolch, Llywydd.
Welsh: Er fy mod i'n deall pam y mae'r Aelod wedi cyflwyno gwelliant 143, ni allaf ei gefnogi a galwaf ar yr Aelodau i'w wrthod. Mae'r gwelliant yn cynnig gosod gofyniad mewn deddfwriaeth i ad-dalu costau heb unrhyw gydnabyddiaeth o'r buddion, ariannol neu fel arall. Nid yw'n gwahaniaethu rhwng costau sefydlu a'r costau a'r cyfleoedd sy'n deillio o ffordd newydd ond parhaus o weithio. Mae hefyd yn awgrymu y byddai'n rhaid i gynghorau a Llywodraeth Cymru nodi'r costau hynny sy'n uniongyrchol berthnasol i'r ddeddfwriaeth hon byth a beunydd, ni waeth pa mor fach nac amhendant y gallen nhw fod, gan greu angen felly am system newydd a biwrocrataidd i gofnodi ac olrhain costau drwy sefydlu trefn ariannu benodol wedi'i neilltuo. Nid wyf i'n credu mai dyna yw bwriad yr Aelod, ond byddai'n ganlyniad anochel i osod darpariaeth o'r fath yn y ddeddfwriaeth. Fodd bynnag, gadewch i mi fod yn glir ein bod ni yn cydnabod y bydd angen buddsoddi mewn gweithredu rhai agweddau ar y Bil hwn. Er enghraifft, rydym ni eisoes wedi darparu cyllid ychwanegol i gydnabod effeithiau diwygio etholiadol sydd â chyfanswm o tua £2.2 miliwn dros y ddwy flynedd ariannol ddiwethaf. Byddwn yn parhau i drafod gyda llywodraeth leol drwy CLlLC pa gymorth ychwanegol sydd ei angen i weithredu newidiadau eraill. Mae egwyddor bwysig yma hefyd ynglŷn ag ariannu llywodraeth leol na ddylem ei cholli. Nid yw'r rhan fwyaf o'n cyllid ar gyfer llywodraeth leol wedi'i neilltuo. Yn wahanol i grantiau, lle gallwn ni ac yn aml yr ydym ni, yn ei gwneud yn ofynnol i rai gweithgareddau gael eu blaenoriaethu a'u gwneud mewn ffordd benodol, mae cyllid drwy'r setliad llywodraeth leol yno i gynghorau wneud eu penderfyniadau eu hunain ynghylch cyflawni dyletswyddau statudol a darparu gwasanaethau anstatudol. Mae gennym ni drefniant y cytunwyd arno eisoes ac wedi ei brofi, gyda llywodraeth leol, sy'n ystyried pob agwedd ar gyllid prif gyngor yn ei gyfanrwydd. Mae hyn yn cynnwys nodi ac ystyried unrhyw gostau parhaus newydd sylweddol a wynebir gan brif gynghorau, boed hynny yn sgil chwyddiant cyflogau neu sy'n deillio o ddeddfwriaeth. Mae is-grŵp cyllid y cyngor partneriaeth yn bodoli i sicrhau yr ystyrir yn briodol y materion hyn, ac felly ni allaf gefnogi'r gwelliant hwn. Diolch, Llywydd.