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English: Diolch, Llywydd. Thank you, Hannah, for your whistle-stop tour of the response to our recommendations, and we'll obviously have to consider them in detail subsequently. But we very much thank the Deputy Minister for engaging constructively during the Stage 1 process, as well as those 31 organisations and individuals who submitted written evidence, all the witnesses who gave evidence to the committee, both employers and employee representatives, as well as experts involved in the public procurement of goods and services, as well as, I must mention, the excellent support we've had from the Research Service and the committee clerks who supported our work. The Bill's overarching aim, to improve and enhance public services through partnership working, fair work and socially responsible procurement, is one that the committee supports, in general, the principles of this Bill, apart from one Member. But the Welsh Government does need to set out how it intends to achieve clear and tangible outcomes in more detail, some of which the Deputy Minister may have highlighted earlier today. Placing social partnership on a legal footing would mirror the situation in several neighbouring European countries who have strong workforces and productive economies. And it was notable that representatives of large organisations supported the principles of the Bill, but I can understand why representatives of small businesses didn't see much virtue in it, as they have much less difficulty communicating with their workforces.
Welsh: Diolch, Llywydd. Diolch, Hannah, am eich crynodeb o'r ymateb i'n hargymhellion, ac yn amlwg bydd yn rhaid i ni eu hystyried yn fanwl wedi hyn. Ond rydym ni'n diolch yn fawr i'r Dirprwy Weinidog am ymgysylltu'n adeiladol yn ystod proses Cyfnod 1, yn ogystal â'r 31 sefydliad ac unigolion hynny a gyflwynodd dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig, yr holl dystion a roddodd dystiolaeth i'r pwyllgor, cyflogwyr a chynrychiolwyr gweithwyr, yn ogystal ag arbenigwyr sy'n ymwneud â chaffael nwyddau a gwasanaethau cyhoeddus, yn ogystal â, mae'n rhaid i mi sôn, am y gefnogaeth ardderchog rydyn ni wedi'i chael gan y Gwasanaeth Ymchwil a chlercod y pwyllgor oedd yn cefnogi ein gwaith. Mae nod cyffredinol y Bil, i wella ac ehangu gwasanaethau cyhoeddus drwy weithio mewn partneriaeth, gwaith teg a chaffael sy'n gymdeithasol gyfrifol, yn un mae'r pwyllgor yn ei gefnogi, yn gyffredinol, egwyddorion y Bil hwn, ar wahân i un Aelod. Ond mae angen i Lywodraeth Cymru nodi sut mae'n bwriadu sicrhau canlyniadau clir a diriaethol mewn mwy o fanylder, gallai'r Dirprwy Weinidog fod wedi amlygu rhai ohonyn nhw'n gynharach heddiw. Byddai gosod partneriaeth gymdeithasol ar sail gyfreithiol yn adlewyrchu'r sefyllfa mewn sawl gwlad Ewropeaidd gyfagos sydd â gweithluoedd cryf ac economïau cynhyrchiol. Ac roedd yn nodedig bod cynrychiolwyr sefydliadau mawr yn cefnogi egwyddorion y Bil, ond gallaf ddeall pam nad oedd cynrychiolwyr busnesau bach yn gweld llawer o rinwedd ynddo, gan eu bod yn cael llawer llai o anhawster cyfathrebu â'u gweithluoedd.
English: Huw Irranca-Davies now, the Chair of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee.
Welsh: Huw Irranca-Davies nawr, Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor Deddfwriaeth, Cyfiawnder a'r Cyfansoddiad.
English: Thank you, Llywydd. I welcome the opportunity to participate in this debate on the general principles of the Welsh Government's third Bill of this sixth Senedd. In our report, we came to one conclusion, and we made nine recommendations. To start, I'd like to thank the Deputy Minister for writing to us with further information to assist our scrutiny of the Bill, in lieu of the evidence session that was cancelled in September.
Welsh: Diolch, Llywydd. Rwy'n croesawu'r cyfle i gymryd rhan yn y ddadl hon ar egwyddorion cyffredinol trydydd Bil Llywodraeth Cymru yn ystod y chweched Senedd. Yn ein hadroddiad, daethom i un casgliad, a gwnaethom naw argymhelliad. I ddechrau, hoffwn ddiolch i'r Dirprwy Weinidog am ysgrifennu atom gyda gwybodaeth bellach i gynorthwyo ein gwaith craffu ar y Bil, yn lle'r sesiwn dystiolaeth a gafodd ei chanslo ym mis Medi.
English: Right, I'm trying to land this plane by 6 o'clock, so that those of us who are still in the Chamber can reach somewhere to watch kick-off by 7 o'clock. So, of the speakers I have in front of me, I'll be keeping you to five minutes. Joel James.
Welsh: Iawn, rwy'n trio glanio'r awyren hon erbyn 6 o'r gloch, fel bod y rhai ohonom ni sy'n dal yn y Siambr yn gallu cyrraedd rhywle i wylio'r gic gyntaf erbyn 7 o'r gloch. Felly, o'r siaradwyr sydd gen i o fy mlaen, byddaf yn eich cadw chi i bum munud. Joel James.
English: You need to bring your comments to a close now.
Welsh: Mae angen i chi ddod â'ch sylwadau i ben nawr.
English: Thank you, Llywydd. On these grounds, I therefore encourage Members not to support the general principles of this Bill.
Welsh: Diolch, Llywydd. Ar y sail hyn, rwyf felly'n annog Aelodau i beidio â chefnogi egwyddorion cyffredinol y Bil hwn.
English: Thank you, Llywydd, and thanks to Jenny Rathbone as Chair of the ESJ committee, my fellow Members and the clerking team and research service for their collaboration in the process of scrutinising this Bill; also thank you to the Deputy Minister for her willingness to engage on this important legislation, and for what she said this afternoon. It's also encouraging to hear some of the things that she's committed to doing, and to discuss.
Welsh: Diolch, Llywydd, a diolch i Jenny Rathbone fel Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor ESJ, fy nghyd-Aelodau, a'r tîm clercio ac ymchwil am eu cydweithrediad yn y broses o sgrwtineiddio'r Bil yma; hefyd i'r Dirprwy Weinidog am ei pharodrwydd i gysylltu ar y ddeddfwriaeth bwysig yma, a beth mae wedi dweud y prynhawn yma. Mae hefyd yn galonogol i glywed rhai o'r pethau mae wedi ymrwymo i'w gwneud ac i'w trafod.
English: Minister, I want to thank you for bringing this statement to the Chamber today. Before being elected, I was a volunteer at Sustainable Wales, based in Porthcawl, who are a grass-roots charity that encourage people to work as community leads on sustainable development. Working in social partnership is at the core of their work within such communities, and it's also about advocating for ethical behaviour in procurement. So, this legislation is an opportunity to enhance its framework throughout public services across Wales. I know that non-governmental organisation such as WWF Cymru, Amnesty International, Oxfam, Fair Trade Wales and others have engaged in equality and social justice on the Bill, and I know they have also worked collaboratively to put together a number of recommendations, including on ethical and sustainable procurement. So, Minister, I was wondering, what engagement has the Welsh Government had with NGOs working on this Bill, and what can Welsh Government learn from NGOs who have already incorporated social partnership into their working models? Diolch.
Welsh: Gweinidog, rwyf eisiau diolch i chi am ddod â'r datganiad hwn i'r Siambr heddiw. Cyn cael fy ethol, roeddwn yn gwirfoddoli yn Cymru Gynaliadwy, ym Mhorthcawl, sydd yn elusen ar lawr gwlad sy'n annog pobl i weithio wrth i gymuned arwain ar ddatblygu cynaliadwy. Mae gweithio mewn partneriaeth gymdeithasol yn greiddiol i'w gwaith o fewn cymunedau o'r fath, ac mae hefyd yn ymwneud â dadlau dros ymddygiad moesegol ym maes caffael. Felly, mae'r ddeddfwriaeth hon yn gyfle i wella ei fframwaith drwy gydol gwasanaethau cyhoeddus ledled Cymru. Rwy'n gwybod bod sefydliad anllywodraethol fel WWF Cymru, Amnest Rhyngwladol, Oxfam, Masnach Deg Cymru ac eraill wedi cymryd rhan mewn cydraddoldeb a chyfiawnder cymdeithasol ar y Bil, ac rwy'n gwybod eu bod hefyd wedi cydweithio i lunio nifer o argymhellion, gan gynnwys ar gaffael moesegol a chynaliadwy. Felly, Gweinidog, roeddwn i'n pendroni, pa ymgysylltu mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi'i gael gyda chyrff anllywodraethol yn gweithio ar y Bil hwn, a beth y gall Llywodraeth Cymru ei ddysgu gan gyrff anllywodraethol sydd eisoes wedi ymgorffori partneriaeth gymdeithasol yn eu modelau gwaith? Diolch.
English: Yes, briefly, if you will, Minister. You are out of time.
Welsh: Ie, yn gryno, os allwch chi, Gweinidog. Rydych chi allan o amser.
English: I'm getting there, don't worry. Thank you very much for that, Peredur. That commitment there is to work on those shared ambitions we have, to actually make that impact on - . Like you said, I never thought I'd get so excited talking about public procurement, but it is one of the levers that has that huge potential to make a real difference in communities across Wales. Very quickly, because I don't want to leave Sarah Murphy out, can I thank Sarah for her contribution? I know it refers to an element of the legislation, and I think it's about actually how it applies for organisations out of Wales, whereas, actually, it doesn't exclude organisations from including their socially responsible procurement - things like tackling modern slavery, but also around environmental outcomes. I've seen the report that I think Members were talking about, and not just the recommendation, but the letter that came in from a number of organisations, and I commit to meet with them to discuss that further, as we move to the next stages of the legislation. Can I just close by saying, 'thank you very much' to Members for their contributions today? I look forward to continuing to work in partnership, as we move forward with this important piece of legislation. Diolch yn fawr.
Welsh: Rwyf bron â gorffen, peidiwch â phoeni. Diolch o galon am hynny, Peredur. Mae'r ymrwymiad hwnnw yno i weithio ar yr uchelgeisiau cyffredin hynny sydd gennym ni, i gael yr effaith hwnnw mewn gwirionedd - . Fel y gwnaethoch chi ddweud, doeddwn i erioed wedi meddwl y byddwn i'n cynhyrfu cymaint wrth siarad am gaffael cyhoeddus, ond mae'n un o'r ysgogiadau sydd â'r potensial enfawr hwnnw i wneud gwahaniaeth gwirioneddol mewn cymunedau ledled Cymru. Yn gyflym iawn, oherwydd dydw i ddim eisiau gadael Sarah Murphy allan, a gaf i ddiolch i Sarah am ei chyfraniad? Rwy'n gwybod ei fod yn cyfeirio at elfen o'r ddeddfwriaeth, ac rwy'n credu ei fod yn ymwneud â sut mae'n berthnasol i sefydliadau y tu allan i Gymru, ond, mewn gwirionedd, nid yw'n eithrio sefydliadau rhag cynnwys eu caffael sy'n gymdeithasol gyfrifol - pethau fel mynd i'r afael â chaethwasiaeth fodern, ond hefyd yn ymwneud â chanlyniadau amgylcheddol. Rwyf wedi gweld yr adroddiad rwy'n credu yr oedd yr Aelodau yn sôn amdano, ac nid yr argymhelliad yn unig, ond y llythyr a ddaeth gan nifer o sefydliadau, ac rwy'n ymrwymo i gwrdd â nhw i drafod hynny ymhellach, wrth i ni symud i gamau nesaf y ddeddfwriaeth. A gaf i gau drwy ddweud, 'diolch yn fawr' i'r Aelodau am eu cyfraniadau heddiw? Rwy'n edrych ymlaen at barhau i weithio mewn partneriaeth, wrth i ni symud ymlaen gyda'r darn pwysig hwn o ddeddfwriaeth. Diolch yn fawr.
English: The proposal is to agree the motion under item 9. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] Yes, there is an objection, and as there is objection to that, we will defer voting, and the vote on the financial resolution, until voting time.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig o dan eitem 9? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Oes, mae yna wrthwynebiad, a gan fod yna wrthwynebiad i hynny, byddwn ni'n gohirio'r bleidlais, a hefyd y bleidlais ar y penderfyniad ariannol, tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: That brings us to voting time. Unless three Members wish for the bell to be rung, and I very much hope that there aren't, we will move immediately to voting time.
Welsh: Dyma ni'n cyrraedd y cyfnod pleidleisio. Oni bai fod tri Aelod yn dymuno i fi ganu'r gloch, a dwi'n mawr obeithio nad oes, byddwn ni'n symud yn syth i'r cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: So, the first vote this afternoon is on the the Renting Homes (Wales) Act 2016 (Amendment of Schedule 12 and Consequential Amendment) Regulations 2022. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Lesley Griffiths. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 36, no abstentions, 15 against. Therefore, the motion is agreed.
Welsh: Felly, mae'r bleidlais gyntaf y prynhawn yma ar Reoliadau Deddf Rhentu Cartrefi (Cymru) 2016 (Diwygio Atodlen 12 a Diwygiad Canlyniadol) 2022. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lesley Griffiths. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 36, neb yn ymatal, 15 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig yna wedi ei dderbyn.
English: The next vote is on the Marine, Fisheries and Aquaculture (Financial Assistance) Scheme (Wales) Regulations 2022. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Lesley Griffiths. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 41, 10 abstentions and none against. Therefore, the motion is agreed.
Welsh: Y bleidlais nesaf yw'r Rheoliadau Cynllun Morol, Pysgodfeydd a Dyframaethu (Cymorth Ariannol) (Cymru) 2022. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lesley Griffiths. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 41, 10 yn ymatal, neb yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig yna wedi ei dderbyn.
English: The next vote is on item 9 - the general principles of the Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill. And I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Lesley Griffiths. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 36, no abstentions, 15 against. Therefore, the motion is agreed.
Welsh: Eitem 9 yw'r bleidlais nesaf - egwyddorion cyffredinol y Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru) yw hwn. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lesley Griffiths. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 36, neb yn ymatal, 15 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig yna wedi ei dderbyn.
English: The final vote is on the motion to agree the financial resolution in respect of the Social Partnership and Public Procurement (Wales) Bill. I call for a vote on the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 36, no abstentions, 15 against. Therefore, the motion is agreed.
Welsh: Y bleidlais olaf yw'r cynnig i gytuno ar y penderfyniad ariannol mewn perthynas â'r Bil Partneriaeth Gymdeithasol a Chaffael Cyhoeddus (Cymru). Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 36, neb yn ymatal, 15 yn erbyn. Mae'r cynnig yna hefyd wedi ei dderbyn.
English: Good morning. I'd like to welcome Members to this meeting of the Culture, Communications, Welsh Language, Sport and International Relations Committee. May I ask if there are any declarations of interest from Members? I see that there are none. We have received apologies temporarily from Heledd Fychan; she is running late due to traffic, she will be joining us soon.
Welsh: Bore da. Hoffwn i groesawu'r Aelodau i'r cyfarfod hwn o'r Pwyllgor Diwylliant, Cyfathrebu, y Gymraeg, Chwaraeon a Chysylltiadau Rhyngwladol. Allaf i ofyn a oes gan unrhyw Aelodau fuddiannau i'w datgan? Na, dwi ddim yn gweld bod yna. Rydyn ni wedi cael ymddiheuriadau dros dro gan Heledd Fychan; mae hi'n rhedeg yn hwyr oherwydd traffig, fe fydd hi yma gyda ni cyn hir.
English: We'll go straight to item 2 on the agenda, which is the challenges facing the creative industry workforce. We have an evidence session this morning with trade unions and employee representatives. May I ask the witnesses to introduce themselves for the record, please?
Welsh: Rydyn ni'n symud yn syth ymlaen at eitem 2, sef yr heriau sy'n wynebu gweithlu'r diwydiant creadigol. Mae gyda ni sesiwn dystiolaeth y bore yma gydag undebau llafur a chynrychiolwyr gweithwyr. A gaf i ofyn i'r tystion gyflwyno eu hunain ar gyfer y record?
English: Your Welsh is excellent.
Welsh: Mae eich Cymraeg yn dda iawn.
English: Perhaps I should respond in English today, because I need to get this right.
Welsh: Well i fi siarad yn Saesneg heddiw, achos mae'n rhaid i fi gael hyn yn iawn.
English: Alun, are you happy?
Welsh: Alun, ydych chi'n hapus?
English: Thank you very much for that. I'm very sorry, we do have to move on, because time is so tight. I'm sorry about that. We'll move on to Hefin David.
Welsh: Diolch am hynny. Mae'n flin iawn gen i, bydd yn rhaid inni symud ymlaen nawr, achos mae amser mor brin. Mae'n flin gen i am hynny. Gwnawn ni symud at Hefin David.
English: Great. Unless anybody has something brief they want to say, we have less than a minute left. I don't see that you do. So, thank you very much for your evidence this morning. A transcript of everything that has been said will be sent to you to check for accuracy. There are some questions that we haven't been able to reach, so if you'd be willing we'd be very grateful to have a response in writing to those. But, thank you very much for your evidence. I'm so sorry that we ran out of time, but everything that you did say was very useful to our inquiry. Thank you very much for your time. Members, we'll take a short 10-minute break to prepare for the next session.
Welsh: Grêt. Oni bai fod gan unrhyw un unrhyw beth brys maen nhw eisiau dweud, mae gyda ni funud ar ôl. Dwi ddim yn gweld eich bod chi. Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am y dystiolaeth y bore yma. Bydd transgript o'r hyn sydd wedi cael ei ddweud yn cael ei ddanfon atoch chi i chi wirio. Mae yna rai cwestiynau dydyn ni ddim wedi gallu cyrraedd, felly os ydych chi'n fodlon byddem ni'n ddiolchgar iawn i gael atebion mewn ysgrifen ar y rheini. Ond, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich tystiolaeth. Sori roeddem ni wedi rhedeg mas o amser, ond roedd popeth roeddech chi wedi'i dweud yn rili, rili ddefnyddiol i ni. Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich amser. Thank you so much. Aelodau, byddwn ni nawr yn cymryd egwyl fer o 10 munud er mwyn paratoi am y sesiwn nesaf.
English: Welcome back. We are continuing with our inquiry into the challenges facing the creative industry workforce. We now are having an evidence session with screen industries organisations. I'll ask the witnesses to introduce themselves for the record. I'll go to Richard first of all, in the room.
Welsh: Croeso'n ôl. Rŷn ni'n dal i edrych ar yr heriau sydd yn wynebu gweithlu'r diwydiant creadigol. Rŷn ni nawr yn cael sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda sefydliadau'r diwydiannau sgrin. Fe wnaf i ofyn i'r tystion gyflwyno eu hunain ar gyfer y record. Fe wnaf i fynd at Richard yn gyntaf, yn yr ystafell.
English: Thank you very much to you all. We'll go straight to questions from Members. I'll go to Tom Giffard, first of all.
Welsh: Diolch i chi i gyd. Fe wnawn ni fynd yn syth at y cwestiynau. Fe wnaf i fynd yn gyntaf at Tom Giffard.
English: We will move on to Alun Davies.
Welsh: Fe wnawn ni symud ymlaen at Alun Davies.
English: Thank you, Richard. Did anyone online want to add something there or answer the question? Pauline.
Welsh: Diolch, Richard. Unrhyw un ar-lein eisiau ychwanegu neu eisiau ateb y cwestiwn? Pauline.
English: Alun, are you happy for us to move on?
Welsh: Alun, ydych chi'n hapus i ni symud ymlaen?
English: Did anybody want to add anything?
Welsh: A oedd unrhyw un eisiau ychwanegu rhywbeth?
English: Thank you. I'm happy with that.
Welsh: Diolch. Dwi'n hapus efo hwnna.
English: I've finished.
Welsh: Dwi wedi gorffen.
English: Great. Thank you, Hefin. I'll just check whether any Members want to ask any further questions. I see that they don't, so may I thank witnesses for their evidence? A transcript of what you've said will be sent to you to check for accuracy.
Welsh: Grêt. Diolch, Hefin. Gwnaf i jest tsiecio os oes unrhyw Aelod eisiau gofyn unrhyw beth ychwanegol. Dwi ddim yn gweld bod, felly gaf i ddiolch i'r tystion am eu tystiolaeth? Bydd transgript o'r hyn rydych chi wedi ei ddweud yn cael ei ddanfon atoch chi ichi wirio.
English: A transcript will be sent to you to check for factual accuracy. There may be some other questions that we might want to ask you in writing, but thank you very much for your evidence this morning. It's wonderful to meet you all.
Welsh: Bydd transgript yn cael ei ddanfon atoch chi ichi wirio. Efallai fydd rhai pethau ychwanegol bydden ni eisiau codi gyda chi'n ysgrifenedig, ond diolch yn fawr iawn am eich tystiolaeth y bore yma. Mae'n lyfli i gwrdd â chi i gyd.
English: To Members, we are moving straight on to item 4, which is papers to note. Paper 4.1 is a letter from the Chair of Finance Committee to the First Minister regarding scrutiny of the financial implications of Bills; 4.2, a letter from the Chair of the Economy, Trade, and Rural Affairs Committee to the First Minister regarding the second additional protocol to the Council of Europe convention on cybercrime; 4.3, a letter from the Chair of the Children, Young People, and Education Committee to us regarding the Welsh Government's draft budget for 2023-24; 4.4 is additional information from Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol following our evidence session with them; and finally 4.5, a letter from the director of Creu Cymru to us regarding a possible takeover by a commercial organisation of St David's Hall in Cardiff. Are Members content to note those papers? Is there anything that they want to say on them? Yes, Heledd.
Welsh: Aelodau, rydyn ni'n symud yn syth ymlaen at eitem 4, sef papurau i'w nodi. Papur 4.1, llythyr oddi wrth Gadeirydd y Pwyllgor Cyllid at y Prif Weinidog ynghylch goblygiadau ariannol Biliau; 4.2, llythyr oddi wrth Gadeirydd Pwyllgor yr Economi, Masnach, a Materion Gwledig at y Prif Weinidog ynghylch yr ail brotocol ychwanegol i gonfensiwn Cyngor Ewrop ar seiberdroseddu; 4.3, llythyr oddi wrth Gadeirydd y Pwyllgor Plant, Pobl Ifanc, ac Addysg atom ni am gyllideb ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru ar gyfer 2023-24; 4.4, gwybodaeth ychwanegol gan y Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol yn dilyn ein sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda nhw; ac, yn olaf, 4.5, llythyr gan gyfarwyddwr Creu Cymru atom ni ynghylch y posibilrwydd o sefydliad masnachol yn cymryd rheolaeth dros Neuadd Dewi Sant yng Nghaerdydd. Ydy Aelodau'n fodlon nodi'r papurau? Oes unrhyw beth mae unrhyw un eisiau ei ddweud? Ie, Heledd.
English: Just on item 4.5, I just wanted to note my own concern on that issue. Clearly, this was raised in the Senedd by many Members yesterday, but I do think it's something that I would like us as a committee to ask some questions on too, because clearly there is a very important national role for St David's Hall. It's not just a place to go to attend concerts; it provides unforgettable opportunities for people of all ages to be on stage, and I am concerned that, if a commercial route alone is followed, maybe some great opportunities will be lost to the children and young people of Wales, as well as the issues around staff pay and conditions and so on. So, hopefully, we as a committee could ask some questions and ask for updates on this.
Welsh: Dim ond ar eitem 4.5, dwi jest eisiau nodi fy mhryder i o ran hynny hefyd. Yn amlwg, mi gafodd hyn ei godi yn y Senedd gan nifer o Aelodau ddoe, ond dwi'n meddwl ei bod hi'n rhywbeth byddwn i'n hoffi os bydden ni fel pwyllgor hefyd yn gallu holi cwestiynau ynglŷn â fo, oherwydd yn amlwg mae yna rôl genedlaethol bwysig iawn i Neuadd Dewi Sant. Nid dim ond lle i fynd am gyngherddau mae o; mae'n cynnig profiadau bythgofiadwy o bobl o bob oed i fod ar lwyfan ac ati, a dwi yn pryderu os oes yna lwybr masnachol yn unig yn cael ei ddilyn, efallai fydd yna gyfleoedd mawr yn cael eu colli i blant a phobl ifanc Cymru, ynghyd â'r telerau o ran staff ac ati. Felly, rwy'n gobeithio y byddwn ni efallai'n gallu, fel pwyllgor, hefyd ofyn cwestiynau a gofyn am ddiweddariadau o ran hyn.
English: I'll see whether anybody else wants to contribute on that point. I tend to agree, and perhaps we could talk about this in more detail in private, but I want to put it on the record too that I have concerns about this too. Does anybody else want to say anything in public on this? No. Oh, yes, Carolyn.
Welsh: Gwnaf i weld os ydy unrhyw un arall eisiau dweud unrhyw beth ar hyn yn gyntaf. Dwi'n tueddu i gytuno ac efallai fydden ni'n gallu sôn mwy am hyn yn breifat, ond buaswn i eisiau rhoi ar y record hefyd fod gen i bryderon am hyn hefyd. Oes unrhyw un arall eisiau dweud unrhyw beth yn gyhoeddus ar hyn? Na. O, ie, Carolyn.
English: Okay. Right. Thank you for that, Carolyn. I don't see that anybody else wants to contribute on this point.
Welsh: Ocê. Iawn. Diolch am hynny, Carolyn. Dwi ddim yn gweld unrhyw un arall yn dweud eu bod nhw eisiau dod i mewn ar hyn.