English: Minister, thank you for the statement today and for publishing the delivery plan yesterday on World Mental Health Day. I have a number of questions I just want to ask you about this. Going back to a question I asked the First Minister, in your statement, in the area where you have your three bullet points, you talk about emphasising the areas that are important to us and you particularly talk about building resilience in individuals and communities to tackle poor mental health and well-being when it occurs. You also go on to talk about the piloting of a social prescription scheme. I raised concerns this morning with the First Minister, so I'd like to ask you directly: can you tell us how much read-across there was between this mental health delivery plan and other Welsh Government Acts, particularly the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act? I think there are some tensions between this implementation plan and that Act, in terms of one consolidating and encouraging individuals to very much do things and be responsible for themselves, and yet the social prescription and the comment about individuals and communities talks very much about actually relying on your community and getting involved in your community. I cited one particular area, but it's about where you get organisations or community groups that are being closed down under the social services Act, because people are being told to be empowered and to take charge themselves, and yet this mental health delivery plan is all about how we integrate people with mental health, how we build them into communities and how we sustain and support them. So, I would just like to understand the read-across between different Government objectives. Moving swiftly on, a very brief question: I think the Welsh Government's Healthy Working Wales awards are an absolutely excellent idea. I just wanted to understand if you were able to offer guidance and mentoring funds to the small workplaces to ensure that the mental health stigma really is removed, because it sounds like a great idea, but we need to bring small organisations as well as large corporates with us. I finally want to turn to the area of child and adolescent mental health services. I really welcome the fact that you say here, 'When young people need more specialist mental health services, we are investing almost £8 million annually in specialist CAMHS'. You also talk about the fact that you are putting together a plan that's working with partners across agencies to best consider how to meet the emotional and mental health requirements of young people. CAMHS is a great service. I'm glad that you're putting more money into it, but the problem is that there's such a gap between the services that can be offered by local government, by partner organisations and by health boards and the kinds of services or conditions that a young person needs to have in order to access CAMHS. First Minister - . I keep calling you 'First Minister'. I must have a prescience about this. [Interruption.] It is. [Laughter.] Cabinet Secretary, can you confirm or give an opinion as to whether or not you think that this is enough to try to close that gap, because young people need to have an incredibly wide range of conditions in order to be able to access CAMHS? What is happening is that a great many young people with suicidal tendencies, who are self-harming or have multiple conditions or multiple disabilities with conditions are being denied access to CAMHS because they don't fit those strict criteria. I cannot see in the mental health implementation plan that you'll be able to actually close that gap that well. Finally, Presiding Officer, because I know I did just say 'finally'. [Interruption.] I did. This is my last 'final'. In the plan you talk an awful lot about measuring outcomes, which is something that is very dear to a Conservative's heart. What is less clear is how you're going to measure those outcomes. You talk about asking for people's views. There's not much clarity over whether it's quantitative research or qualitative research. On an awful lot of the outcomes, where you're going to do the measurements, you don't identify what people are going to be measured against and what their baselines are. So, I'd like your view on how well we think we can really monitor this plan to ensure that it does deliver for the people of Wales.
Welsh: Weinidog, diolch ichi am y datganiad heddiw ac am gyhoeddi'r cynllun cyflawni ddoe ar Ddiwrnod Iechyd Meddwl y Byd. Mae gennyf nifer o gwestiynau yr wyf eisiau eu gofyn i chi am hyn. Gan fynd yn ôl at gwestiwn a ofynnais i'r Prif Weinidog, yn eich datganiad, yn y man lle mae gennych chi eich tri phwynt bwled, rydych yn sôn am bwysleisio'r meysydd sy'n bwysig i ni ac roeddech yn siarad yn arbennig am adeiladu cydnerthedd mewn unigolion a chymunedau i fynd i'r afael ag iechyd meddwl a lles gwael pan fydd yn digwydd. Rydych hefyd yn mynd ymlaen i sôn am dreialu cynllun presgripsiwn cymdeithasol. Codais bryderon y bore yma gyda'r Prif Weinidog, felly hoffwn ofyn i chi yn uniongyrchol: a allwch chi ddweud wrthym faint o gydberthynas oedd rhwng y cynllun cyflawni iechyd meddwl hwn a Deddfau eraill Llywodraeth Cymru, yn enwedig Deddf Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol a Llesiant (Cymru)? Rwy'n credu bod rhai tensiynau rhwng y cynllun cyflawni hwn a'r Ddeddf honno, o ran cael rhywun yn cyfnerthu ac yn annog unigolion i wneud pethau a bod yn gyfrifol amdanynt hwy eu hunain, ac eto mae'r rhagnodi cymdeithasol a'r sylwadau am unigolion a chymunedau yn siarad i raddau helaeth iawn am ddibynnu ar eich cymuned a chymryd rhan yn eich cymuned. Cyfeiriais at un maes penodol, ond mae'n ymwneud â phan fod gennych sefydliadau neu grwpiau cymunedol sy'n cael eu cau o dan y Ddeddf gwasanaethau cymdeithasol, oherwydd bod pobl yn cael eu gorchymyn i fod wedi eu grymuso ac i gymryd cyfrifoldeb eu hunain, ac eto mae'r cynllun cyflawni iechyd meddwl hwn yn ymwneud i raddau helaeth â sut yr ydym yn integreiddio pobl ag iechyd meddwl, sut yr ydym yn eu cynnwys mewn cymunedau a sut yr ydym yn eu cynnal ac yn eu cefnogi. Felly, hoffwn ddeall y gydberthynas rhwng gwahanol amcanion y Llywodraeth. Gan symud ymlaen yn gyflym, cwestiwn byr iawn: rwy'n meddwl bod gwobrau Cymru Iach ar Waith Llywodraeth Cymru yn syniad cwbl ardderchog. Roeddwn eisiau deall os oeddech chi'n gallu cynnig cyllid ar gyfer arweiniad a mentora i'r gweithleoedd bach i sicrhau bod y stigma iechyd meddwl yn cael ei waredu mewn gwirionedd, gan fod hwn yn swnio'n syniad gwych, ond mae angen i ni fynd â mudiadau bach yn ogystal â chorfforaethau mawr gyda ni yn hyn o beth. Rwyf yn olaf am droi at faes gwasanaethau iechyd meddwl plant a'r glasoed. Rwyf wir yn croesawu'r ffaith eich bod yn dweud yn y fan yma, Pan fydd pobl ifanc angen gwasanaethau iechyd meddwl mwy arbenigol, rydym yn buddsoddi bron i £8 miliwn yn flynyddol mewn CAMHS arbenigol. Rydych hefyd yn siarad am y ffaith eich bod yn llunio cynllun sy'n gweithio gyda phartneriaid ar draws asiantaethau i ystyried orau sut i fodloni gofynion emosiynol ac iechyd meddwl pobl ifanc. Mae CAMHS yn wasanaeth gwych. Rwy'n falch eich bod yn rhoi mwy o arian i mewn iddo, ond y broblem yw bod cymaint o fwlch rhwng y gwasanaethau y gellir eu cynnig gan lywodraeth leol, gan sefydliadau partner a gan fyrddau iechyd a'r mathau o wasanaethau neu gyflyrau y mae angen i berson ifanc eu cael er mwyn cael mynediad at CAMHS. Brif Weinidog - . Rwy'n mynnu eich galw yn 'Brif Weinidog'. Mae'n rhaid fy mod i'n cael rhagwelediad ynglŷn â hyn. [Torri ar draws.] Dyna ydyw. [Chwerthin.] Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, a allwch chi gadarnhau neu roi barn ynghylch pa un a ydych yn credu bod hyn yn ddigon i geisio cau'r bwlch hwnnw, gan fod angen i bobl ifanc gael amrywiaeth anhygoel o eang o gyflyrau er mwyn gallu cael mynediad at CAMHS? Yr hyn sy'n digwydd yw bod nifer fawr o bobl ifanc gyda thueddiadau hunanladdol, sy'n hunan-niweidio neu sydd â chyflyrau lluosog neu anableddau lluosog gyda chyflyrau yn cael eu gwrthod rhag cael mynediad at CAMHS am nad ydynt yn cyd-fynd â'r meini prawf caeth hynny. Ni allaf weld yn y cynllun gweithredu iechyd meddwl y byddwch yn gallu mewn gwirionedd gau'r bwlch hwnnw mewn modd mor dda â hynny. Yn olaf, Lywydd, oherwydd gwn fy mod i newydd ddweud 'yn olaf'. [Torri ar draws.] Mi wnes i. Dyma fy 'olaf ' terfynol. Yn y cynllun yr ydych yn siarad llawer iawn am fesur canlyniadau, sef rhywbeth sy'n agos iawn at galon Ceidwadwr. Yr hyn sy'n llai clir yw sut yr ydych yn mynd i fesur y canlyniadau hynny. Rydych yn sôn am ofyn am farn pobl. Does dim llawer o eglurder ynghylch a yw'n ymchwil meintiol neu ymchwil ansoddol. Ar lawer iawn o'r canlyniadau, lle yr ydych yn mynd i wneud y mesuriadau, nid ydych yn nodi beth mae pobl yn mynd i gael eu mesur yn ei erbyn a beth yw eu llinellau sylfaen. Felly, hoffwn eich barn ar ba mor dda yr ydym yn credu y gallwn ni wir fonitro'r cynllun hwn i sicrhau ei fod yn cyflawni dros bobl Cymru.