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English: Thank you. I will now call Members who've indicated they wish to make an intervention of up to one minute. Llyr Gruffydd.
Welsh: Diolch. Rwy'n galw yn awr ar yr Aelodau sydd wedi dweud eu bod yn dymuno gwneud ymyriad o hyd at funud. Llyr Gruffydd.
English: Thank you, Dirprwy Lywydd. I just wanted to pick up on the assertion that the Welsh Government is actually providing sufficient funds for farmers to respond to these new requirements. I make it around £11.5 million that's being provided. According to the Government's own estimates, that would just about cover the needs of Anglesey alone, let alone the rest of Wales. The low-cost-scenario estimates from the Welsh Government make it £109 million required, the high cost is £360 million, and you're providing £11.5 million, I think. So, let's not believe what we heard from some Members in this debate - that the Government is providing the support required.
Welsh: Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Roeddwn am fynd ar drywydd yr honiad fod Llywodraeth Cymru yn darparu digon o arian i ffermwyr allu ymateb i'r gofynion newydd hyn. Rwy'n credu bod oddeutu £11.5 miliwn yn cael ei ddarparu. Yn ôl amcangyfrifon y Llywodraeth ei hun, byddai hynny'n ddigon i dalu am anghenion Ynys Môn yn unig, heb sôn am weddill Cymru. Mae'r amcangyfrifon senario cost isel gan Lywodraeth Cymru yn dweud bod angen £109 miliwn, a'r senario cost uchel yn £360 miliwn, ac rydych yn darparu £11.5 miliwn, rwy'n meddwl. Felly, gadewch inni beidio â chredu'r hyn a glywsom gan rai o'r Aelodau yn y ddadl hon - fod y Llywodraeth yn darparu'r cymorth sydd ei angen.
English: Can the Member come to a conclusion, please?
Welsh: A wnaiff yr Aelod ddirwyn i ben, os gwelwch yn dda?
English: Thank you, Presiding Officer. I met with Montgomery Young Farmers last night, making many of the points, I think, that Paul Davies and Angela did - Angela Burns made - in terms of the health and safety implications of rushing in terms of managing that slurry and the timetable involved. In coming to a conclusion, Deputy Presiding Officer, I urge you, Minister, to rethink about this. I'd urge Labour backbenchers to examine the evidence, examine how proportionate this is, examine whether the targeted approach is correct or not. And I would urge Dafydd Elis-Thomas as an independent Member of the Government to think very independently when he comes to vote next week, and I'd urge Kirsty Williams to listen -
Welsh: Diolch, Lywydd. Cyfarfûm â Ffermwyr Ifanc Maldwyn neithiwr, ac roeddent yn gwneud llawer o'r pwyntiau y credaf fod Paul Davies ac Angela - Angela Burns - wedi'u gwneud ar y goblygiadau i iechyd a diogelwch o ruthro mewn perthynas â rheoli slyri a'r amserlen sydd ynghlwm wrth hynny. Wrth ddod i ben, Ddirprwy Lywydd, rwy'n eich annog chi, Weinidog, i ailfeddwl ynglŷn â hyn. Hoffwn annog aelodau o feinciau cefn Llafur i archwilio'r dystiolaeth, i archwilio pa mor gymesur ydyw, i archwilio a yw'r dull wedi'i dargedu yn gywir ai peidio. A hoffwn annog Dafydd Elis-Thomas fel Aelod annibynnol o'r Llywodraeth i feddwl yn annibynnol iawn pan fydd yn pleidleisio yr wythnos nesaf, ac annog Kirsty Williams i wrando -
English: Yes. The Minister -
Welsh: Ie. Mae'r Gweinidog -
English: - and support our motion -
Welsh: - a chefnogi ein cynnig -
English: The Member does need to close. Thank you. The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] I see objections, therefore we will vote under the item in voting time.
Welsh: Mae angen i'r Aelod ddod i ben. Diolch. Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Gwelaf wrthwynebiadau, felly pleidleisiwn o dan yr eitem hon yn ystod y cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: We'll now move on to item 8, which is the Plaid Cymru debate on free school meals eligibility. And I call on Siân Gwenllian to move the motion. Siân.
Welsh: Symudwn yn awr at eitem 8, sef dadl Plaid Cymru ar gymhwystra prydau ysgol am ddim. A galwaf ar Siân Gwenllian i wneud y cynnig. Siân.
English: The reality is that Wales provides fewer cooked free school meals to its children at the moment than any other nation within the UK. In Scotland and England, every child of school age, in the first three years of their education, is in receipt of free school meals, whatever the family income. In Northern Ireland, the earnings threshold for those in receipt of universal credit is set far higher, helping to support more working families. Providing a balanced, nutritious meal, locally sourced, would improve child health and educational attainment. A sufficient free school meal will enhance concentration throughout the day and will give children an opportunity to taste new foods. Expanding eligibility, and, in future, moving forward to introducing a universal approach, would reduce inequality related to education, health and other areas. It would be a means of supporting the foundational or circular economy that this Government is so determined to promote. It would create jobs locally, support farmers to take foods from farm to fork, supporting local businesses, creating local food chains, and contributing to reducing emissions. We would be doing all of this and providing nutritious food for Welsh children. I urge you to support our motion today.
Welsh: Y realiti ydy bod Cymru yn darparu llai o brydau wedi eu coginio am ddim i'w phlant ysgol ar hyn o bryd nag unrhyw genedl arall y Deyrnas Unedig. Yn yr Alban a Lloegr, mae pob plentyn oedran ysgol yn nhair blynedd cyntaf eu haddysg yn derbyn prydau ysgol am ddim, beth bynnag fo incwm y teulu. Yng Ngogledd Iwerddon, mae'r trothwy enillion i'r sawl sy'n derbyn credyd cynhwysol wedi'i osod yn llawer uwch, gan helpu i gefnogi mwy o deuluoedd sy'n gweithio. Mi fyddai darparu pryd cytbwys, maethlon, lleol yn yr ysgol yn gwella iechyd plant ac yn hybu cyrhaeddiad dysgu ac addysgol. Mae pryd ysgol digonol yn helpu cynyddu lefelau canolbwyntio drwy gydol y dydd, ac yn rhoi cyfle i blant brofi bwyd newydd. Byddai ehangu cymhwyster, ac, yn y dyfodol, hefyd symud ymlaen i gyflwyno dull cyffredinol - mi fyddai hynny yn lleihau anghydraddoldeb sy'n ymwneud ag addysg ac iechyd a meysydd eraill. Mi fyddai fo'n fodd o gefnogi'r economi sylfaenol neu gylchol y mae'r Llywodraeth hon mor daer i'w hannog. Creu gwaith yn lleol, cefnogi ffermwyr i fynd â bwyd o'r fferm i'r fforc, cefnogi busnesau lleol, creu cadwyni bwyd lleol, a chyfrannu at leihau newid hinsawdd - hyn oll a darparu bwyd maethlon i blant Cymru. Dwi'n erfyn arnoch chi i gefnogi ein cynnig ni heddiw.
English: I have selected the amendment to the motion, and I call on the Minister for Education to move that amendment formally.
Welsh: Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliant i'r cynnig, a dwi'n galw ar y Gweinidog Addysg i symud y gwelliant hwnnw yn ffurfiol.
English: The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] Yes, there is an objection, and therefore I will defer voting under this item until voting time.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Oes, mae yna wrthwynebiad, ac felly dwi'n gohirio'r bleidlais ar yr eitem tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: That brings us to voting time, but we will take a short break to ensure that the technology is working properly. So, we'll take a break.
Welsh: Dyma ni'n cyrraedd y cyfnod pleidleisio, ond cyn hynny, fe fyddwn ni'n cymryd toriad byr i sicrhau bod y dechnoleg yn gweithio'n llawn. Toriad, felly.
English: That brings us to voting time. The first vote this evening is on the debate on a Member's legislative proposal, a British Sign Language Bill. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Mark Isherwood. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 37, 15 abstentions and none against. Therefore, the motion is agreed.
Welsh: Dyma ni'n cyrraedd y cyfnod pleidleisio. Mae'r bleidlais gyntaf heno ar y ddadl ar gynnig deddfwriaethol gan Aelod, sef Bil Iaith Arwyddion Prydain, BSL. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Mark Isherwood. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 37, 15 yn ymatal, neb yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig wedi ei gymeradwyo.
English: The next vote is on the Welsh Conservatives debate on the Wales-wide nitrate vulnerable zone. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Mark Isherwood. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, two abstentions and 27 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.
Welsh: Mae'r bleidlais nesaf ar ddadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig ar y parth perygl nitradau Cymru gyfan. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Mark Isherwood. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 24, dau yn ymatal a 27 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig wedi ei wrthod.
English: The next vote is therefore on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Rebecca Evans. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 28, four abstentions and 21 against. Therefore, amendment 1 is agreed.
Welsh: Mae'r bleidlais nesaf, felly, ar welliant 1. Gwelliant 1 yn enw Rebecca Evans. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 28, pedwar yn ymatal, 21 yn erbyn. Felly, mae gwelliant 1 wedi ei gymeradwyo.
English: I now call for a vote on the motion as amended.
Welsh: Dwi nawr yn galw, felly, am bleidlais ar y cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio.
English: Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 28, 12 abstentions and 13 against. The motion as amended is therefore agreed.
Welsh: Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 28, 12 yn ymatal, 13 yn erbyn. Mae'r cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio wedi ei dderbyn.
English: The next vote is on the Plaid Cymru debate on free school meals eligibility. I call for a vote on the motion tabled in the name of Siân Gwenllian. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 20, two abstentions and 31 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.
Welsh: Mae'r bleidlais nesaf ar ddadl Plaid Cymru ar gymhwystra prydau ysgol am ddim. Dwi'n galw am bleidlais ar y cynnig yn enw Siân Gwenllian. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 20, dau yn ymatal, 31 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig wedi ei wrthod.
English: Our next vote is on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Rebecca Evans. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 31, three abstentions, 19 against. Therefore, amendment 1 is agreed.
Welsh: Gwelliant 1 yw'r bleidlais nesaf, yn enw Rebecca Evans. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 31, tri yn ymatal, 19 yn erbyn, ac felly mae gwelliant 1 wedi ei dderbyn.
English: A vote, therefore, on the motion as amended.
Welsh: Pleidlais, felly, nawr ar y cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio.
English: Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 31, three abstentions, 19 against. Therefore, the motion as amended is agreed.
Welsh: Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 31, tri yn ymatal, 19 yn erbyn. Felly mae'r cynnig wedi ei ddiwygio wedi ei dderbyn.
English: That concludes voting for today. But it doesn't conclude our business for the day, and we will move to the short debate.
Welsh: Dyna ddiwedd y pleidleisiau am y dydd heddiw, ond nid dyna ddiwedd y busnes, felly rydyn ni'n symud ymlaen nawr i'r ddadl fer.
English: Thank you. Can I now call the Minister for Health and Social Services to reply to this debate, Vaughan Gething?
Welsh: Diolch. A gaf fi alw yn awr ar y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol i ymateb i'r ddadl hon, Vaughan Gething?
English: We'll now move to item 11, which is the second short debate this afternoon, and I call on Llyr Gruffydd to speak on the topic he has chosen. Llyr.
Welsh: Symudwn ymlaen yn awr at eitem 11, sef yr ail ddadl fer y prynhawn yma, a galwaf ar Llyr Gruffydd i siarad am y pwnc y mae wedi'i ddewis. Llyr.
English: Thank you very much, and thank you for the opportunity to bring forward this short debate on the future of sea fishing in Wales, and I have agreed to give a minute of my time to Janet Finch-Saunders, who will contribute to this debate too.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Dirprwy Lywydd, a diolch am y cyfle i gyflwyno'r ddadl fer yma ar ddyfodol y diwydiant pysgota môr yng Nghymru, a dwi wedi cytuno rhoi munud o fy amser i Janet Finch-Saunders i gyfrannu i'r ddadl yma hefyd.
English: Thank you. I call on the Minister for the Environment, Energy and Rural Affairs, Lesley Griffiths.
Welsh: Diolch. Galwaf ar Lesley Griffiths, Gweinidog yr Amgylchedd, Ynni a Materion Gwledig.
English: Thank you very much. And that brings today's proceedings to a close. Thank you very much. Thanks.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. A daw hynny â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Diolch yn fawr iawn. Diolch.
English: Good morning. Just to turn to the infrastructure that is needed at a national level to move this catch-up work forward, what do you think is the role of the Minister for Education and the role of the Government during this next period?
Welsh: Bore da. Jest i droi at y seilwaith sydd ei angen ar lefel genedlaethol i symud y gwaith yma ymlaen, beth ydych chi'n meddwl ydy rôl y Gweinidog Addysg a rôl y Llywodraeth yn y cyfnod nesaf?
English: Okay, thank you very much. Clearly, the key to this is the funding, and Luke has done work on this recently and has demonstrated, of course, that the catch-up funding is less per head in Wales as compared to the other nations of the United Kingdom. So, how much additional funding is needed? Do we know what interventions are ready to go, effectively, that that could be spent on?
Welsh: Ocê, diolch yn fawr. Yn amlwg, yr allwedd ydy yr arian, ac mae Luke wedi gwneud gwaith ar hyn yn ddiweddar ac wedi darganfod, wrth gwrs, bod yr arian catch-up yn llai y pen yng Nghymru nac ydy o yn y gwledydd eraill yn y Deyrnas Unedig. Faint o gyllid ychwanegol sydd ei angen? Ydyn ni yn gwybod pa ymyriadau sy'n barod i fynd, yn effeithiol, y gellid gwario'r arian yma arnyn nhw?
English: - recruit, recover and raise standards.
Welsh: - recriwtio, adfer a chodi safonau.
English: May I ask about the pupil development grant? What is your view on this grant during the COVID-19 pandemic? And are there arguments to be made to use this funding in terms of some sort of catch-up fund?
Welsh: A gaf i ofyn am y grant datblygu disgyblion? Beth ydy eich barn chi am hwn yn ystod y cyfnod COVID-19? Ac a oes yna ddadleuon dros ddefnyddio'r arian yma ar ffurf rhyw fath o gronfa dal i fyny?
English: Thank you, Chair, and good morning. The first question is to Gareth, perhaps. What is the role of the education Minister at present, and of the new Minister after May, in terms of co-ordinating the national level response that we need with regard to this plan? It's not a recovery plan; I will call it a plan to support the schools and pupils in moving forwards. I accept that you place a great deal of emphasis on the work in the schools themselves, of course, and that's where the work is going to be taking place, but what is the national role in this and do we need some sort of new infrastructure? There is a catch-up tsar in England. What is your opinion on that particular role? Do we need that specific role in Wales?
Welsh: Diolch, Gadeirydd, a bore da. Mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf i Gareth, efallai. Beth ydy rôl y Gweinidog Addysg ar hyn o bryd, a'r Gweinidog Addysg newydd ar ôl mis Mai, o ran cydgordio'r lefel genedlaethol sydd ei angen efo'r cynllun? Nid cynllun adfer ydy o; mi wnaf i ei alw fo, felly, yn gynllun i gefnogi'r ysgolion a'r disgyblion wrth symud ymlaen. Dwi'n derbyn eich bod chi'n rhoi lot o bwyslais ar y gwaith yn yr ysgolion eu hunain, wrth gwrs, a dyna lle mae'r gwaith yn mynd i fod yn digwydd, ond beth ydy'r rôl genedlaethol ac oes angen rhyw fath o seilwaith newydd? Mae yna tsar yn Lloegr. Beth ydy eich barn chi ar hynny? Oes angen rôl benodol yng Nghymru?
English: I'm pleased that Gareth hasn't said, 'I'm sure that Dylan would agree', because I do disagree on this point - a healthy disagreement, of course. There are plenty of voices, I'm afraid, being heard, and adding another voice is going to be too much. To go back to the question about the Minister for Education, I think that would be a sign that the national leadership had failed - that you couldn't draw everyone together to ensure that we collaborate on this to support schools. I think that, if there is a role, it would be, from my past as a headteacher, to ensure that there is a national response so that we don't slip back to having regional or local competition, or whatever you want to call it, which dilutes the impact and the response. I think that there is a role for the education Minister, and the team supporting the Minister, to ensure that there is that national response, and I think that the responsibility is on us, on the middle tier, to ensure that we collaborate and that we don't allow what Gareth has identified. I'd agree that if that were to happen, then that would be very disappointing. But I think that, if the central education Minister couldn't do that, then there would be a role for you, as Members, to ensure that that was resolved. But I'm not sure whether we need another voice centrally. There are plenty of voices there that don't co-operate at present.
Welsh: Dwi'n falch bod Gareth heb ddweud, 'Dwi'n siŵr y bydd Dylan yn cytuno', achos dwi'n anghytuno - anghytundeb iach, wrth gwrs. Mae yna ddigon o leisiau, mae gen i ofn, yn y canol yma, ac mae ychwanegu llais arall yn mynd i fod yn ormod. I fynd yn ôl at y cwestiwn ynglŷn â'r Gweinidog Addysg, dwi'n credu y byddai hwnna'n arwydd bod yr arweiniad cenedlaethol wedi methu - ein bod ni wedi methu â chael pawb ynghyd i wneud yn siŵr ein bod ni'n cydweithio i gefnogi ysgolion. Dwi'n credu, os oes yna rôl, o fy hanes fel prifathro, byddai hynny yn sicrhau bod yna ymateb cenedlaethol a'n bod ni ddim yn llithro yn ôl i gael cystadleuaeth ranbarthol neu leol, neu beth bynnag rydych chi eisiau ei alw fo, sydd yn llesteirio'r ymateb a'r gefnogaeth yna. Dwi'n credu bod yna rôl i'r Gweinidog Addysg, a'r tîm sy'n cefnogi'r Gweinidog, i wneud yn siŵr bod hynny'n digwydd. Dwi'n credu bod y cyfrifoldeb arnom ni yn y canol, megis, i wneud yn siŵr ein bod ni'n cydweithio a'n bod ni ddim yn caniatáu'r hyn y mae Gareth yn ei adnabod. Ac dwi'n cytuno; pe bai hynny'n digwydd, byddai hwnna'n drist iawn. Ond dwi'n credu os na all y Gweinidog Addysg a'r canol wneud hynny, wel, bydd yna rôl i bobl fel chithau i wneud yn siŵr bod hwnna'n cael ei ddatrys. So, dwi ddim yn siŵr os oes angen llais arall yn y canol. Mae yna ormod o leisiau yna sydd ddim yn cydgordio ar hyn o bryd.
English: Thank you for that. In terms of the middle tier, Dylan, you've mentioned that we need to avoid duplication and putting too much pressure on the schools from the middle tier. How much planning work is happening at present within that middle tier in collaboration, of course, with that national level and with the schools themselves, on the work, on the interventions and so on? How much preparation is being done?
Welsh: Diolch am hynny. O ran yr haen ganol, Dylan, rydych chi wedi sôn bod eisiau osgoi dyblygu a rhoi gormod o bwysau ar yr ysgolion o dŷ'r haen ganol. Faint o gynllunio sydd yn digwydd ar hyn o bryd o fewn yr haen yna mewn cydweithrediad, yn amlwg, efo'r lefel genedlaethol ac efo'r ysgolion ar y gwaith, ar ymyriadau ac yn y blaen? Faint o baratoi sy'n digwydd?
English: Well, I would go back a little bit to the working group or the committee that I chair. A great deal of work is being done to try to bring everyone together to agree on what everyone's roles are, to ensure that there isn't too much competition, and that did lead to some very heartening results, of course. But the pandemic has impacted that slightly. There has been a framework agreed, or partly agreed, in terms of how we lead on this work. We did meet in October, following the OECD report, to see how that action plan would work and the recovery plan, if you will, would dovetail. There is another meeting next week, and the focus of that meeting will be to ensure that we do collaborate. On a personal level, not in terms of my role, has that happened historically as it should have done? Perhaps not. And I think the main responsibility for us is to ensure that we do collaborate, because the future of young people in our schools is more important than the self-importance of the middle tier, if you will. We have to ensure that we are here for the schools and the children, and nobody else.
Welsh: Wel, os awn ni'n ôl ychydig at y gweithgor neu'r pwyllgor rydw i'n cadeirio, roedd yna lot o waith yn cael ei wneud yn ceisio dod â phawb i gytundeb ar beth oedd rôl pawb, i wneud yn siŵr nad oedd yna gystadlu, ac roedd hwnna wedi cymryd camau calonogol iawn, mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud. Ond, wrth gwrs, mae'r pandemig yma wedi llesteirio rhywfaint ar hynny. Mae yna fframwaith wedi cael ei gytuno, neu ryw led-gytuno, ar sut rydym ni'n arwain hyn, ac mi wnaethom ni gwrdd ym mis Hydref, yn dilyn adroddiad yr OECD, i weld sut byddai'r cynllun gweithredu hwnnw a'r cynllun adfer, os mynnwch chi, yn cydblethu. Mae yna gyfarfod arall yr wythnos nesaf, a ffocws y cyfarfod yna fydd gwneud yn siŵr ein bod ni'n cydweithio. Ar lefel bersonol, nid yn fy rôl, nid yw hynny wedi digwydd yn hanesyddol fel y dylai fe wedi digwydd, a dwi'n credu mai'r cyfrifoldeb pennaf ydy gwneud yn siŵr ein bod ni yn cydweithio, achos mae dyfodol pobl ifanc ac ysgolion yn fwy pwysig na hunanbwysigrwydd y tir canol, os mynnwch chi. Mae'n rhaid i ni wneud yn siŵr ein bod ni yma i'r ysgolion ac i'r plant, ac nid i neb arall.
English: Do you see, perhaps, that this is an opportunity, truth be told, to have that collaboration, to have it taking place better and to take away that duplication from the system?
Welsh: Ydych chi'n gweld, efallai, bod hwn yn gyfle, mewn gwirionedd, i gael y cydweithio yna'n digwydd yn well ac i dynnu'r dyblygu allan o'r system?
English: Yes, certainly. As a number of other things, the pandemic has driven changes that have had to happen in terms of how we collaborate, socially, and I think that one of the things that we have to learn from this in planning ahead is to ensure that there isn't that duplication in future. Gareth has said that there will be a demand for resources. It would be very sad if we were to misuse those resources by duplicating work and, ultimately, we put more pressure on schools then. So, we do need to ensure that we make the best use of the scarce resources that we have for the benefit of the schools and their work. Not to step back - there has to be accountability, of course - but we're there to support and that there is that sensible accountability.
Welsh: Ydw, yn bendant. Fel nifer o bethau eraill, mae'r pandemig wedi rhoi tân yn y newidiadau sydd wedi gorfod digwydd - y ffordd rydym ni'n cydweithio, yn gymdeithasol, a dwi'n credu ei fod yn un o'r pethau y dylem ni ddysgu ohonyn nhw wrth gynllunio ymlaen i wneud yn siŵr bod hynny ddim yn digwydd. Mae yna alw, fel y dywedodd Gareth, yn mynd i fod ar adnoddau. Wel, byddai fe'n drist iawn ein bod ni'n camddefnyddio'r adnoddau hynny drwy ddyblygu'r gwaith. Ac yn y pen draw, rydym ni'n rhoi mwy o bwysau ar ysgolion. So, mae'n rhaid i ni wneud yn siŵr ein bod ni'n gwneud y defnydd gorau o'r adnoddau prin sydd ar gael, er lles yr ysgolion a'u gwaith. Nid i gamu'n ôl a rhoi rhwydd hynt - bydd rhaid bod yna atebolrwydd, wrth reswm - ond ein bod ni yna i gefnogi a bod yr atebolrwydd hynny'n gall ac yn synhwyrol.
English: Is there a practical role too in terms of the middle tier? Is there an argument for secondments for former teachers, who aren't teaching at the moment, to go back to schools for a period? And would that assist them as well?
Welsh: Oes yna rôl gwbl ymarferol hefyd o dŷ'r haen ganol? Oes yna ddadl dros secondio rhai cyn-athrawon, sydd ddim yn dysgu ar hyn o bryd, yn ôl i'r ysgol am gyfnod? Ac a fyddai hynny'n gwneud lles iddyn nhw hefyd?