English: I think we all share some gratitude to the Wales Governance Centre for the work they're doing in the reports and analysis that they've published, but also in publishing Welsh stats and an understanding of the secure estate, and how the prison and probation service works and serves Wales. Taken together, all of this work is describing a failing system. The system is failing, and it is our job here today and here in this place to fix that. We have to ask the fundamental question: why is this system failing and why is it failing so consistently and over time? My answer to that question is that it's because we have a broken settlement. Until the settlement is fixed, we are unable to solve the problems that are endemic in the criminal justice system. The England and Wales jurisdiction is a relic of history. That is what the Welsh Government says in its evidence to the Thomas Commission on Justice in Wales. It describes how the system - the final legacy of the Acts of Union, the Tudor Acts of Union - how it today creates a system that is failing people in Wales. The Welsh Government was very clear, in the evidence that I gave to the Thomas commission, the evidence that the former First Minister gave to the commission, and the evidence that the Counsel General, who is in his place today, gave to the commission - that the system is failing Wales, it's failing the people of Wales, and that the criminal justice system must be devolved to Wales. We were very clear about that. We need to understand the real implications of this. If a jurisdiction, and if policy over criminal justice, was simply some sort of dusty, academic subject, I frankly wouldn't be that interested in the devolution of it. It's because of its human impact on people today that I've been persuaded that this is not simply a matter that is important, but a matter that is urgent. [ Interruption.] I will give way.
Welsh: Rwy'n credu bod pawb ohonom yn rhannu diolch i Ganolfan Llywodraethiant Cymru am y gwaith y maent yn ei wneud yn yr adroddiadau a'r dadansoddiadau a gyhoeddwyd ganddynt, ond hefyd am gyhoeddi ystadegau ar gyfer Cymru a dealltwriaeth o'r ystâd ddiogeledd, a sut y mae'r gwasanaeth carchardai a phrawf yn gweithio ac yn gwasanaethu Cymru. Gyda'i gilydd, mae'r holl waith hwn yn disgrifio system sy'n methu. Mae'r system yn methu, a'n gwaith ni yma heddiw ac yma yn y lle hwn yw datrys hynny. Rhaid inni ofyn y cwestiwn sylfaenol: pam y mae'r system yn methu a pham y mae'n methu mor gyson a dros amser? Fy ateb i'r cwestiwn hwnnw yw am fod gennym setliad sydd wedi torri. Hyd nes y caiff y setliad ei drwsio, ni allwn ddatrys y problemau sy'n endemig yn y system cyfiawnder troseddol. Mae awdurdodaeth Cymru a Lloegr yn perthyn i hanes. Dyna y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn ei ddweud yn ei thystiolaeth i Gomisiwn Thomas ar Gyfiawnder yng Nghymru. Mae'n disgrifio sut y mae'r system - gwaddol derfynol y Deddfau Uno, y Deddfau Uno Tuduraidd - sut y mae heddiw'n creu system sy'n gwneud cam â phobl yng Nghymru. Roedd Llywodraeth Cymru yn glir iawn, yn y dystiolaeth a roddais i gomisiwn Thomas, yn y dystiolaeth a roddodd y cyn-Brif Weinidog i'r comisiwn, a'r dystiolaeth a roddodd y Cwnsler Cyffredinol, sydd yn ei sedd heddiw, i'r comisiwn - fod y system yn gwneud cam â Chymru, mae'n gwneud cam â phobl Cymru, a bod yn rhaid datganoli'r system cyfiawnder troseddol i Gymru. Roeddem yn glir iawn ynglŷn â hynny. Mae angen inni ddeall gwir oblygiadau hyn. Pe bai awdurdodaeth, a phe bai polisi cyfiawnder troseddol, yn ddim mwy na rhyw fath o bwnc academaidd llychlyd, a dweud y gwir ni fyddai gennyf gymaint â hynny o ddiddordeb yn ei ddatganoli. Oherwydd ei effaith ddynol ar bobl heddiw y cefais fy narbwyllo nad mater pwysig yn unig ydyw, ond mater sy'n rhaid ei ddatrys ar frys. [ Torri ar draws.] Fe ildiaf.