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English: Welcome back to the Climate Change, Environment and Infrastructure Committee. We come to our sixth item today, which is scrutiny of the chair designate of the National Infrastructure Commission for Wales. We welcome this afternoon the chair designate, Dr David Clubb. Today, of course, is a session for us, with the Deputy Minister's preferred candidate, to ask about Dr Clubb's suitability for the role and his ambitions for the commission also. We have around 50 minutes earmarked for this session, and we'll begin by asking some questions. Before that, may I just say that I have a declaration of interest to make, which is that my partner and Dr Clubb are business partners? I just wanted to make that clear on the record. Thank you very much. I will begin, if I may, Dr Clubb, by asking the question that people always ask first in a situation like this, which is: what are the skills and the experience you have and the reason you believe that you are suitable for this role?
Welsh: Croeso nôl i gyfarfod y Pwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, yr Amgylchedd a Seilwaith. Rŷn ni'n dod at y chweched eitem ar ein hagenda ni yn y cyfarfod heddiw, sef gwaith craffu ar ddarpar gadeirydd Comisiwn Seilwaith Cenedlaethol Cymru. Rŷn ni'n croesawu atom ni y darpar gadeirydd, sef Dr David Clubb. Mae heddiw, wrth gwrs, yn sesiwn ar gais y Dirprwy Weinidog, sydd wedi ysgrifennu at y pwyllgor yn gofyn i ni am ein barn ni ar addasrwydd Dr Clubb ar gyfer y rôl a'i uchelgeisiau ar gyfer y comisiwn hefyd. Felly, mae gennym ni ryw 50 munud wedi'i glustnodi, ac mi wnawn ni gychwyn drwy ofyn rhai cwestiynau. Cyn hynny, a gaf i jest ategu'r datganiad o ddiddordeb y gwnes i yn gynharach, sef, wrth gwrs, fod fy mhartner i a Dr Clubb yn bartneriaid busnes gyda'i gilydd, fel bod hynny'n glir ar y record? Iawn, diolch yn fawr. Mi wnâi gychwyn, felly, os y caf i, drwy ofyn y cwestiwn, efallai, Dr Clubb, y mae pobl wastad yn ei ofyn gyntaf mewn sefyllfaoedd fel hyn, sef: beth yw'r sgiliau a'r profiadau sydd gennych chi a'r rheswm rydych chi'n credu eich bod chi'n addas ar gyfer y rôl yma?
English: Well, first of all, thank you very much for the opportunity to come here today. I'm glad to have the opportunity to talk about my experience and what I think about the future of the commission. I have a 20-year background in the renewables sector. I have worked in Spain, Wales, England and Denmark in so many different institutions - public sector, third sector and private sector. I understand a lot about the energy sector. I've managed major projects. I've been chair of a board and I've been a member of several boards. I'm very supportive of the latest statement from the Government regarding the climate change and nature emergency, and I look forward to undertaking the work to think about the long term and to help prepare Wales for what is to come. Unfortunately, there's going to be a lot of complications through climate change, and I think a lot about that, and I hope that I'll undertake work that is going to help people, communities and the Welsh Government to prepare for that.
Welsh: Wel, yn gyntaf, diolch yn fawr iawn am y gwahoddiad i ddod yma heddiw. Dwi'n falch o gael y cyfle i sôn am fy mhrofiad a beth dwi'n ei feddwl am ddyfodol y comisiwn. Mae gen i gefndir o tuag at 20 mlynedd yn y sector ynni adnewyddadwy. Dwi wedi gweithio yn Sbaen, yng Nghymru, yn Lloegr ac yn Nenmarc dros bob math o sefydliad - sector cyhoeddus, preifat a'r trydydd. Dwi'n deall lot am y sector ynni. Dwi wedi rheoli prosiectau mawr. Dwi wedi bod yn gadeirydd bwrdd ac yn aelod o sawl bwrdd. Dwi'n gefnogol iawn o'r datganiad diweddar gan y Llywodraeth gyda newid hinsawdd - yr argyfwng hinsawdd a'r argyfwng natur - a dwi'n rili edrych ymlaen at wneud gwahaniaeth drwy weithio i'r comisiwn i helpu i feddwl am y tymor hir ac i helpu i baratoi Cymru am beth sy'n mynd i ddod, sef, yn anffodus, lot o drafferth drwy newid hinsawdd. Dwi'n meddwl lot am hynny ac dwi'n gobeithio gwneud gwaith sydd yn rili helpu pobl, cymunedau a Llywodraeth Cymru i baratoi am bethau fel hyn.
English: Thank you very much, and I know that Members will have specific questions on those routes, so thank you very much for that. We move on, therefore, to Janet Finch-Saunders.
Welsh: Iawn, diolch yn fawr, ac mae yna bethau penodol dwi'n gwybod y bydd Aelodau eisiau gofyn ynglŷn â'r gwahanol drywyddau posibl yna, felly diolch am hynny. Ymlaen â ni nesaf at Janet Finch-Saunders.
English: Thank you. Janet has referred to two things there. Are there any other conflicts of interest that you think that we should be aware of?
Welsh: Diolch. Mae Janet wedi cyfeirio at ddau beth yn benodol fanna. A oes unrhyw conflicts of interests eraill rydych chi'n meddwl efallai, yn sgil y rôl, y dylem ni fod yn ymwybodol ohonynt?
English: Definitely. Afallen works with energy projects and, in principle, infrastructure as well. So, we have decided, as a company, that I'm not going to work on projects that include energy or infrastructure over the next three years, while I am chair of the commission. The second thing is: Afallen is a partner in projects that are trying to develop wind energy at sea, and, because of this, I'm not going to work for Hiraeth Energy on anything that's related to stakeholder engagement. So, I can't see any information through Afallen about renewable energy or infrastructure, and I'm not going to lobby or have a relationship with the stakeholders of Hiraeth either. I've had conversations with the Welsh Government, and they are happy with this arrangement. And, if there's anything that does change in terms of my work, I'll go straight back to the Government and explain what I'm going to do to keep a difference, to keep that line, between the commission's work and private work.
Welsh: Oes, yn bendant. Mae Afallen yn gweithio efo prosiectau ynni ac, mewn egwyddor, seilwaith hefyd. Felly, dŷn ni wedi penderfynu, fel cwmni, fy mod i ddim yn mynd i weithio ar brosiectau sy'n cynnwys ynni neu seilwaith dros y tair blynedd nesaf, tra fy mod i'n gadeirydd y comisiwn. Yr ail beth yw: mae Afallen yn bartner mewn prosiect sy'n trio datblygu ynni gwynt ar y môr - cwmni o'r enw Hiraeth Energy. Achos hwn, dwi ddim yn mynd i weithio dros Hiraeth Energy ar unrhyw beth sy'n ymwneud â stakeholder engagement. Felly, dwi ddim yn gallu gweld unrhyw wybodaeth drwy Afallen am ynni adnewyddadwy neu seilwaith, a dwi ddim yn mynd i lobïo neu gael perthynas rhanddeiliaid efo Hiraeth chwaith. Dwi wedi cael sgyrsiau efo Llywodraeth Cymru yn barod, ac maen nhw'n hapus efo'r trefniant hwn. Ac os oes unrhyw beth sy'n newid yn unrhyw ran o fy ngwaith i, dwi'n mynd yn syth yn ôl at y Llywodraeth i egluro beth dwi'n mynd i wneud i gadw gwahaniaeth rhwng gwaith preifat fy nghwmni fi a gwaith y comisiwn.
English: Thank you, Chair. Dr Clubb, the remit of this role is broad, so what stakeholders do you think will be the most crucial for the commission to be engaged with, and how would you, in this post, create and maintain relationships with the stakeholders?
Welsh: Diolch, Cadeirydd. Dr Clubb, mae remit y rôl yma yn eang iawn. Pa randdeiliaid ydych chi'n meddwl bydd y rhai mwyaf crucial ichi fod yn ymwneud â nhw, wel, i'r comisiwn fod yn ymwneud â nhw, a sut fyddwch chi yn y rôl yma yn mynd ati i greu a chynnal perthnasau gyda'r rhanddeiliaid hynny?
English: Yes, we would be very keen too, of course, when it's timely and when it's relevant to invite you for scrutiny, and hopefully, as you've suggested, you will accept those invitations, if they are convenient, of course. I think we are moving now to the final question from Delyth.
Welsh: Wel, ie, byddem ninnau'n awyddus hefyd, wrth gwrs, pan fydd hi'n amserol a phan fydd hi'n berthnasol i'ch gwahodd chi, a byddem ni'n gobeithio, fel rydych chi wedi awgrymu, y byddech chi'n derbyn y gwahoddiadau, os ydy'r rheini'n gyfleus, wrth gwrs. Rydyn ni'n symud, dwi'n meddwl, o bosib, at y cwestiwn olaf. Delyth.
English: Thank you, Chair. Just the final question. How would you guarantee the commission's independence from the Welsh Government, please?
Welsh: Diolch, Cadeirydd. Ie, jest y cwestiwn olaf. Sut y byddech chi'n mynd ati i warantu annibynniaeth y comisiwn o Lywodraeth Cymru, plis?
English: Well, it's something that is quite complicated because it hasn't been set up like every other commission in the world. So, what I can promise is that it's going to be independent in terms of the thought process of the commission and what we will suggest for our work plan over three years. Of course, if we are reliant on Government for what they are prepared to pay for, it's not completely independent in the conventional sense. But, as a commission, I do feel that we need to be very robust, because we want to support the Government, but we also want to challenge them, and we need the kind of commission that can refuse to accept plans or statements from Government and also that can see where things are going really well. So, we have to wait and see. Maybe next year , hopefully, I'll return and feel confident that we have done a good job to keep us as independent as we can be.
Welsh: Wel, mae'n rhywbeth sydd ychydig yn anodd, achos dyw e ddim wedi ei setio i fyny fel pob comisiwn arall yn y byd. Beth rydw i'n gallu addo yw ei fod yn mynd i fod yn annibynnol o ran proses meddwl y comisiwn a beth fyddwn ni'n awgrymu o ran cynllun gwaith dros dair blynedd. Wrth gwrs, os ydyn ni'n ddibynnol ar y Llywodraeth o ran beth maen nhw'n hapus i dalu amdano, dyw e ddim yn hollol annibynnol in the conventional sense. Ond, fel comisiwn, dwi'n teimlo bod angen inni fod yn gryf iawn achos, wrth gwrs, rydyn ni eisiau cefnogi'r Llywodraeth, ond hefyd rydyn ni eisiau rhoi her, ac mae angen cael comisiwn sydd yn gallu gwrthod derbyn cynlluniau neu ddatganiad y Llywodraeth a hefyd sydd yn gallu gweld lle mae pethau'n mynd yn rili dda. Felly, mae'n rhaid inni aros i weld. Efallai flwyddyn nesaf, gobeithio, gallaf i ddod yn ôl a theimlo'n hyderus ein bod ni wedi gwneud swydd dda o'n cadw ni mor annibynnol ag y gallwn.
English: Thank you very much. Are there any further questions for Dr Clubb? No. That's it. Well, thank you very much, and may I thank you for being with us this afternoon? The responses and the information you've provided will help us as we communicate our opinion to the Deputy Minister as regards the possible appointment, and if the appointment is confirmed, we would be very keen to wish you well, but maybe we'll have an opportunity to do so more formally if the appointment is confirmed. So, in the meantime, I remind you that you'll receive a draft transcript to check and thank you, once again, for joining us this afternoon. Thank you.
Welsh: Ocê. Diolch yn fawr. Oes unrhyw gwestiynau pellach i Dr Clubb? Na. Dyna ni. Ocê. Iawn. Wel, gaf i ddiolch ichi am fod gyda ni prynhawn yma? Mi fydd yr ymatebion a'r wybodaeth rŷch chi wedi eu rhoi i ni yn help i ni wrth i ni gyfathrebu ein barn ni i'r Dirprwy Weinidog ynglŷn â'r penodiad posib, ac â bod y penodiad yn cael ei gadarnhau, yna mi fyddem ni'n awyddus i ddymuno'n dda ichi, ond mi wnawn ni gael cyfle efallai i wneud hynny'n fwy ffurfiol â bod y penodiad yn cael ei gadarnhau. Felly gyda hynny, a gan eich atgoffa chi y bydd yna gopi drafft o'r trawsgrifiad hefyd yn cael ei ddarparu ichi i'w tsiecio, gaf i ddiolch ichi am ymuno â ni y prynhawn yma? Diolch yn fawr.
English: That's it. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Dyna ni. Diolch yn fawr.
English: We'll go on to the seventh item on our agenda this afternoon, which is to note a number of papers today that are in your packs. We will take them together and note them together, unless any Member wants to draw attention to something specific in any of those papers. No, therefore, we will note those.
Welsh: Mi awn ni ymlaen at y seithfed eitem felly ar ein hagenda ni y prynhawn yma, sef i nodi nifer o bapurau sydd yn y pecyn. Mi wnawn ni eu cymryd nhw gyda'i gilydd a'u nodi nhw, oni bai bod Aelod eisiau tynnu sylw at unrhyw beth yn benodol oddi mewn i'r papurau hynny. Na. Dyna fe, mi wnawn ni nodi rheini, felly.
English: I suggest therefore that we move into a private session for the remainder of the meeting. So, in line with Standing Order 17.42 (vi) and (ix), I suggest that the rest of the meeting will be private. Are Members content with that? Yes, thank you very much. That's it, then. We will wait for confirmation that we are in a private session. Thank you very much.
Welsh: A wedyn, dwi'n cynnig ein bod ni'n symud i sesiwn breifat ar gyfer gweddill y cyfarfod yma. Felly, yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42 (vi) ac (ix), dwi'n cynnig bod y pwyllgor yn penderfynu cynnal gweddill y cyfarfod yma yn breifat. Ydy Aelodau'n fodlon â hynny? Ydych, diolch yn fawr iawn. Dyna ni. Mi wnawn ni aros tan i ni gael cadarnhad ein bod ni mewn sesiwn breifat. Diolch yn fawr.
English: Good morning. I'd like to welcome everyone to this third meeting of the Senedd's Economy, Trade and Rural Affairs Committee, and the first to meet in a hybrid format. Some Members are attending in the room, and others are on Zoom. All witnesses are attending via Zoom, and the committee meeting will as usual be broadcast live on Senedd.tv. We've received one apology, from Sarah Murphy, who is unwell and we wish her a speedy recovery. I'm very pleased to welcome Carolyn Thomas, who is substituting on behalf of Sarah. So, a warm welcome to you. Are there any declarations of interest? Sam.
Welsh: Bore da a chroeso, bawb, i drydydd cyfarfod Pwyllgor yr Economi, Masnach a Materion Gwledig y Senedd, a'r cyntaf i gwrdd ar ffurf hybrid. Mae rhai Aelodau yn bresennol yn yr ystafell, ac mae eraill ar Zoom. Mae'r holl dystion yn bresennol trwy Zoom, a bydd cyfarfod y pwyllgor fel arfer yn cael ei ddarlledu yn fyw ar Senedd.tv. Cafwyd un ymddiheuriad, a hwnnw gan Sarah Murphy, sy'n sâl ac rŷm ni'n dymuno gwellhad buan iddi hi. Dwi'n falch iawn i groesawu Carolyn Thomas, sydd wedi cytuno i ddirprwyo ar ran Sarah heddiw. Croeso cynnes i chi. Oes yna unrhyw fuddiannau hoffai Aelodau eu datgan? Sam.
English: Thank you very much. Any other declarations of interest Members would wish to declare? Carolyn Thomas.
Welsh: Dyna ni, diolch yn fawr iawn. Oes yna unrhyw fuddiannau eraill hoffai Aelodau eu datgan? Carolyn Thomas.
English: Okay. We'll move on, therefore, to item 2, papers to note. We've received two pieces of correspondence: a letter from the Competition and Markets Authority; and a letter from the Chair of the Legislation, Justice and Constitution Committee in relation to scrutiny of common frameworks. Are there any issues that Members would wish to raise in light of these two papers? Anything? No, I don't see that anyone wishes to make a contribution there.
Welsh: Dyna ni. Symudwn ni, felly, ymlaen at eitem 2, papurau i'w nodi. Rŷm ni wedi derbyn dau lythyr: llythyr oddi wrth yr Awdurdod Cystadleuaeth a Marchnadoedd; ac rŷm ni wedi derbyn llythyr oddi wrth Gadeirydd Pwyllgor Deddfwriaeth, Cyfiawnder a'r Cyfansoddiad mewn perthynas â sgrwtineiddio fframweithiau cyffredin. Oes yna unrhyw fater hoffai Aelodau ei godi yn sgil y ddau bapur yma? Unrhyw beth o gwbl? Na, dwi ddim yn gweld neb sydd eisiau dod i fewn.
English: So, we will move on to item 3, which is the review of the Water Resources (Control of Agricultural Pollution) (Wales) Regulations 2021. In June, the Senedd unanimously voted for the responsible committee to urgently review the Water Resources (Control of Agricultural Pollution) (Wales) Regulations 2021, and present recommendations to the Senedd. This committee will be taking forward that review. In July of this year, NFU Cymru issued proceedings in the High Court for permission to challenge the regulations. The High Court decided to accept their application for judicial review, and a hearing has now been listed for 26 and 27 October of this year. The legal proceedings do add a level of complexity to this review. The committee will not be looking at the legality of these regulations. We will be undertaking this review from a purely policy perspective. Members have also chosen to hear initial evidence from Natural Resources Wales today, in line with the urgency noted in the Plenary resolution. However, to help witnesses to give better evidence, we will hear from the farming unions and environmental organisations in November. So, may I welcome representatives of NRW to our first session, and perhaps you could introduce yourselves for the Record, and then we will move immediately to questions? So, if I could ask you to introduce yourselves for the Record, starting with Mr Vaughan.
Welsh: Felly, symudwn ni ymlaen at eitem 3, a hynny yw adolygiad o'r Rheoliadau Adnoddau Dŵr (Rheoli Llygredd Amaethyddol) (Cymru) 2021. Ym mis Mehefin pleidleisiodd y Senedd yn unfrydol i'r pwyllgor cyfrifol fynd ati ar fyrder i adolygu'r Rheoliadau Adnoddau Dŵr (Rheoli Llygredd Amaethyddol) (Cymru) 2021, a chyflwyno argymhellion i'r Senedd. Bydd y pwyllgor hwn nawr yn bwrw ymlaen â'r adolygiad hwnnw. Ym mis Gorffennaf eleni, gwnaeth NFU Cymru ddwyn achos yn yr Uchel Lys i geisio caniatâd i herio'r rheoliadau yma. Penderfynodd yr Uchel Lys ganiatáu y cais am adolygiad barnwrol, ac mae gwrandawiad nawr wedi ei restru ar gyfer 26 a 27 Hydref eleni. Mae'r trafodion cyfreithiol hyn yn ychwanegu lefel o gymhlethdod at yr adolygiad hwn. Ni fydd y pwyllgor yn ystyried cyfreithlondeb y rheoliadau hyn. Bydd yn cynnal yr adolygiad hwn o safbwynt polisi yn unig. Mae'r Aelodau hefyd wedi dewis clywed tystiolaeth gychwynnol gan Gyfoeth Naturiol Cymru heddiw, yn unol â'r brys a nodwyd ym mhenderfyniad y Cyfarfod Llawn. Fodd bynnag, i helpu tystion i roi tystiolaeth well, byddwn ni nawr yn clywed gan yr undebau amaethyddol a chyrff amgylcheddol ym mis Tachwedd. Felly, a gaf i groesawu heddiw gynrychiolwyr Cyfoeth Naturiol Cymru i'n sesiwn cyntaf ni, ac efallai y gall y cynrychiolwyr gyflwyno eu hunain ar gyfer y Record, ac wedyn gallwn ni symud yn syth i gwestiynau? Felly, os caf i ofyn i'r cynrychiolwyr ddim ond i gyflwyno eu hunain, a dechrau gyda Mr Vaughan.
English: Welcome back to the Economy, Trade and Rural Affairs Committee. This is the first of two introductory sessions today where we will examine the issues facing the hospitality, tourism and retail sectors in light of the pandemic, and the best ways of assisting these sectors, now and in the future. Could I welcome our witnesses to this session? And if I could ask them to introduce themselves for the Record, and then we can move on to questions. So, if I could ask Mr Cottam to start.
Welsh: Croeso yn ôl i Bwyllgor yr Economi, Masnach a Materion Gwledig. Hon yw'r gyntaf o ddwy sesiwn ragarweiniol sy'n cael eu cynnal heddiw pan fyddwn yn ystyried y problemau sy'n wynebu'r sector lletygarwch, twristiaeth ac adwerthu oherwydd y pandemig, a'r ffordd orau o gynorthwyo'r sectorau hyn, yn awr ac yn y dyfodol. Gaf i groesawu'r tystion i'r sesiwn yma? Ac os caf i ofyn iddyn nhw gyflwyno eu hunain i'r Record, a gallwn wedyn symud yn syth i gwestiynau. Felly, os caf i ofyn i Mr Cottam i ddechrau.
English: Welcome back to the Economy, Trade and Rural Affairs Committee. We'll move on now to item 5. This is the second of our introductory sessions today examining the issues facing the hospitality, tourism and retail sectors in light of the pandemic, and the best way to support these sectors now and in the future. Could I welcome the witnesses to the session? If I could ask them to introduce themselves for the record, and then we'll move straight into questions. Maybe I'll ask Suzy Davies to start.
Welsh: Croeso yn ôl i gyfarfod y Pwyllgor Economi, Masnach a Materion Gwledig. Fe symudwn ni ymlaen nawr i eitem 5. Hon yw'r ail o'r ddwy sesiwn ragarweiniol sy'n cael eu cynnal heddiw i ystyried y problemau sy'n wynebu'r sector lletygarwch, twristiaeth ac adwerthu oherwydd y pandemig, a'r ffordd orau i gynorthwyo'r sectorau hyn yn awr, ac yn y dyfodol. A gaf i groesawu'r tystion i'r sesiwn yma? Os caf ofyn iddyn nhw gyflwyno eu hunain i'r record, a gallwn ni, wedyn, symud yn syth i gwestiynau. Efallai caf i ofyn i Suzy Davies i ddechrau.
English: The new chair of the Wales Tourism Alliance.
Welsh: Cadeirydd newydd Cynghrair Twristiaeth Cymru.
English: Therefore, we move on to item 6 on our agenda, which is consideration of the legislative consent memorandum on the Animal Welfare (Kept Animals) Bill. We should note, of course, that 14 October is the deadline for reporting on this. The committee intends to consider the draft report on this LCM in private later today, but are there any comments that Members would like to make for the public Record? Any comments? There are none.
Welsh: Felly, symudwn ni ymlaen at eitem 6 ar ein hagenda ni, i ystyried y memorandwm cydsyniad deddfwriaethol ar gyfer y Bil Lles Anifeiliaid (Anifeiliaid a Gedwir). Mae'n rhaid inni nodi, wrth gwrs, taw 14 Hydref yw'r dyddiad cau ar gyfer cyflwyno'r adroddiad yma. Mae'r pwyllgor yn bwriadu ystyried yr adroddiad drafft ar y memorandwm hwn yn breifat yn ddiweddarach heddiw, ond oes yna unrhyw sylwadau yr hoffai Aelodau eu gwneud ar gyfer y Cofnod cyhoeddus? Unrhyw sylwadau o gwbl? Nac oes.
English: We'll therefore move on to item 7 on our agenda, which is consideration of the legislative consent memorandum on the Advanced Research and Invention Agency Bill. Again, we should note that 21 October is the reporting deadline and, again, the committee, of course, intends to consider its draft report on this LCM in private later this afternoon. But are there any comments that Members would like to put on the public Record? There are none.
Welsh: Felly, symudaf ymlaen i eitem 7 ar ein hagenda, sef ystyried y memorandwm cydsyniad deddfwriaethol ar gyfer Bil yr Asiantaeth Ymchwil a Dyfeisio Blaengar. Unwaith eto, mae'n rhaid inni nodi taw 21 Hydref yw'r dyddiad cau ar gyfer cyflwyno'r adroddiad yma, ac mae'r pwyllgor, wrth gwrs, yn bwriadu, unwaith eto, ystyried yr adroddiad drafft ar y memorandwm hwn yn breifat yn ddiweddarach y prynhawn yma. Ond oes yna unrhyw sylwadau yr hoffai Aelodau eu gwneud ar gyfer y Cofnod cyhoeddus? Nac oes.
English: Therefore, I will move on to item 8 and, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42, I propose that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting. Are Members content? Yes, I see that Members are content. Therefore, the motion is carried, and that brings our public meeting to a close. Thank you.
Welsh: Felly, symudaf ymlaen i eitem 8 ac, yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42, dwi'n cynnig bod y pwyllgor yn gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod hwn. A yw Aelodau i gyd yn fodlon ar hynny? Ydyn, dwi'n gweld bod yr Aelodau i gyd yn fodlon. Felly, mae'r cynnig wedi'i dderbyn, a daw hynny â'r cyfarfod cyhoeddus heddiw i ben. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
English: Good afternoon. I just wanted to look at this in a little more depth and to ask how Shelter specifically has been helping people with debt during the pandemic. How have people been made aware of the services that you provide, or how can you signpost people to more specialist help where necessary? And what level of engagement has there been in that regard?
Welsh: Helo. Prynhawn da. Ie, jest eisiau, efallai, mynd ychydig yn ddyfnach a gofyn sut mae Shelter yn benodol wedi helpu pobl gyda dyled yn ystod y pandemig. Sut mae pobl wedi dod i wybod am y gwasanaethau ŷch chi'n eu cynnig, neu sut ŷch chi'n medru eu cyfeirio nhw at gymorth arbenigol? A faint o ymgysylltu sydd wedi cael ei wneud yn hynny o beth?
English: Thank you. So, you feel that that's worked effectively. Do you think that the way people have been made aware of these services has worked or has the pandemic demonstrated to you that you need to work in a different way, perhaps?
Welsh: Diolch. Felly rŷch chi'n teimlo bod hynny wedi bod yn effeithiol. Ŷch chi'n teimlo bod y ffordd mae pobl wedi cael gwybod am y gwasanaethau wedi gweithio neu ydy'r pandemig wedi dangos ichi fod angen gweithio mewn ffordd wahanol?