English: We are looking to review the whole concept of priority. We've got a review ongoing at the moment, which I inherited from my predecessor in post, Rebecca Evans. I share entirely the sentiments that the Member is expressing there in terms of homelessness. It's a really complex problem, as she knows. I know that she knows that. I completely agree with the statement about warehousing and so on. It's completely unreasonable to expect somebody to go into a 15-bed hostel with people they don't know, leaving their pet outside, for example, and cope with their substance misuse as well. For some people, that will not be the answer. For others, it is the answer temporarily, because they can access other services. She's right: we need to make sure that we have a housing sector fit for purpose, with a proper pipeline - it's a terrible word, but you know what I mean - the proper path, that's a better word, a proper path of people to get their lives back, with all of the things that they need, and we know that a secure home is the absolute core of that. So, making sure that people get into that secure home as fast as possible, because a hostel, where it is suitable for somebody, will only ever be a temporary stopgap to getting them into that secure home, and, actually, making sure that secure home is a home that that person would actually choose for themselves, so they have some volition in it; they're not just pushed into something that they just would never have chosen. I visited a housing first project run by the Salvation Army in Cardiff last week - my time sense is very bad, as the Member knows; I think it was last week - and it was very impressive indeed. And I met a gentleman there who said that without the housing first strategy, he personally would never have got from his position - which was actually sleeping in a vehicle, but that's just as rough-sleeping as any other sort - into the permanent and secure housing he had because he would not have been able to access the hostel system. So, I agree entirely. We are looking to reassess our systems and our social housing grant, and see how it can best be used to get that proper path, and to actually build the housing, and assisted housing and sheltered housing that people need sometimes in order to be able to cope with the circumstances they find themselves in. And just to be absolutely clear and cover off all the bits she said: it's quite obvious that it's not something that somebody's choosing, it's just sometimes they're choosing it because the alternatives available to them are even worse. And that's a completely different use of the word 'choice'.
Welsh: Rydym yn gobeithio adolygu'r cysyniad o flaenoriaeth. Mae gennym adolygiad ar waith ar hyn o bryd, un a etifeddais gan fy rhagflaenydd yn y swydd, Rebecca Evans. Rwy'n cytuno'n llwyr â'r teimladau a fynegodd yr Aelod o ran digartrefedd. Mae'n broblem wirioneddol gymhleth, fel y gŵyr. Gwn ei bod yn gwybod hynny. Rwy'n cytuno'n llwyr â'r datganiad ynglŷn â phentyrru ac ati. Mae'n gwbl afresymol disgwyl i rywun fynd i hostel 15 gwely gyda phobl nad ydynt yn eu hadnabod, gan adael eu hanifail anwes y tu allan, er enghraifft, ac ymdopi â'u problem camddefnyddio sylweddau hefyd. I rai pobl, nid dyna fydd yr ateb. I eraill, mae'n ateb dros dro, gan y gallant gael mynediad at wasanaethau eraill. Mae'n llygad ei lle: mae angen inni sicrhau bod gennym sector tai sy'n addas i'r diben, gyda llif priodol, neu lwybr priodol, er mwyn i bobl allu cael eu bywydau yn ôl, gyda'r holl bethau sydd eu hangen arnynt, a gwyddom fod cartref diogel yn gwbl greiddiol i hynny. Felly, sicrhau bod pobl yn llwyddo i fynd i'r cartref diogel hwnnw cyn gynted â phosibl, gan na fydd hostel, os yw'n addas i rywun, ond yn rhywbeth dros dro cyn iddynt allu mynd i'r cartref diogel hwnnw, ac mewn gwirionedd, sicrhau bod cartref diogel yn gartref y byddai'r unigolyn yn ei ddewis eu hunain, fel eu bod â rhywfaint o lais yn y mater; nid cael eu gwthio i mewn i rywbeth na fyddent byth wedi'i ddewis. Ymwelais â phrosiect tai yn gyntaf sy'n cael ei redeg gan Fyddin yr Iachawdwriaeth yng Nghaerdydd yr wythnos diwethaf - mae fy synnwyr o amser yn wael iawn, fel y gŵyr yr Aelod; yr wythnos diwethaf oedd hi, rwy'n credu - ac roedd yn drawiadol iawn. A chyfarfûm â gŵr bonheddig yno a ddywedodd, heb y strategaeth tai yn gyntaf, na fyddai ef yn bersonol byth wedi mynd o'r sefyllfa roedd ynddi - roedd yn arfer cysgu mewn cerbyd, ond mae hynny lawn cyn waethed ag unrhyw fath o gysgu allan - i'r cartref parhaol a diogel a gafodd gan na fyddai wedi gallu cael mynediad at y system hostelau. Felly, rwy'n cytuno'n llwyr. Rydym yn gobeithio ailasesu ein systemau a'n grant tai cymdeithasol, a gweld sut y gellir eu defnyddio yn y ffordd orau i sicrhau'r llwybr priodol hwnnw, ac adeiladu'r tai, a'r tai â chymorth a'r tai gwarchod sydd eu hangen ar bobl weithiau er mwyn gallu ymdopi â'u hamgylchiadau. Ac i fod yn gwbl glir ac i ateb pob rhan o'r hyn a ddywedodd: mae'n amlwg iawn nad yw'n rhywbeth y mae rhywun yn ei ddewis, ond weithiau maent yn ei ddewis am fod yr opsiynau eraill sydd ar gael iddynt hyd yn oed yn waeth. Ac mae hwnnw'n ddefnydd cwbl wahanol o'r gair 'dewis'.