English: I wish to speak to two of the amendments, tabled in the name of Siân Gwenllian - amendment 4 with regard to supporting the police and crime commissioners and the chief constables in their wish for higher fines for breaches of the health regulations, and amendment 9, which talks about the need for a universal basic income as we move out of the lockdown. I'd like to begin by commending the approach that the Welsh Government has taken. I think a more cautious and more sensible approach is certainly what I hear from my constituents across mid and west Wales that they believe is right. It's also what I hear from my friends and from my daughter's friends. We don't think it's safe - as a nation, we don't think it's safe to lift the lockdown too quickly. And while I hear what Nick Ramsay says about a four-nations approach and I know that that's what the First Minister and his colleagues seek to achieve, if the UK Government, acting as the Government of England, gets things wrong, then the First Minister is obviously, in my view, right to disagree. I want to talk about the situation in mid and west Wales with regard to people's fears in terms of tourism kicking off again. And I need to say to the First Minister that my constituents across mid and west Wales are frightened. Many of them are lucky enough to live in parts of Wales where the R rate has remained really, really low and we really, really want to keep it that way. They also know that they are very lucky to live in some of the most beautiful communities and most beautiful places in these islands, and I feel proud to represent them. But this is not the time for people to be coming. Now, the vast majority of our regular visitors to Wales, and to rural Wales from urban Wales as well - because this is not about Wales and England; this is about keeping the rural communities safe - are being respectful; they are staying away and we look forward to welcoming them back. But our police service are making it really clear to us that there is a small minority of people who are flouting those regulations. I think we would all agree, and I'm sure in this the First Minister would agree with me, that the approach the police service is taking in terms of educating and informing is the right one, and the vast majority of people, last weekend, who were confused because of the changes of regulation in England, which didn't apply in Wales in terms of being able to drive to take a walk, for example, were happy to turn around and go back. But the police are telling us that there is a small minority of people who simply appear not to care. There are police officers in the north of my region who are telling me that they have seen repeat offenders - people who have driven repeatedly, not one weekend, but weekend after weekend, back into the area, because the fines just simply don't put them off - they don't provide a deterrent. Now, I know that this Welsh Government prides itself rightly on listening to people on the front line, and when we are in a situation where the police and crime commissioners - all four of them - and the chief constables - all four of them - tell us that, in dealing with that recalcitrant small minority, their hands are tied behind their back because the punishments available are not sufficiently severe to act as a deterrent, I really, really ask the First Minister to explain to me why he won't listen to them, and, more importantly, to explain to my constituents and to the police officers who have to implement these polices, why he appears not to be listening to them. I've heard what he's said; I don't understand his reasoning. But I turn to an area where I hope that we can agree, and that is the idea of moving in the post-COVID era to a universal basic income. Now, this is an idea that I've been advocating for a very long time, and it has seen sometimes like a romantic idea that would be nice at some point in the future, but we have, of course, seen the Spanish Government introduce this. In response to the crisis, we must commend the efforts of Welsh Government and UK Government in terms of supporting people's livelihoods, but, as we've just heard in the statement from the economy Minister, that's left us with a very complex picture. It's left people confused about what they're eligible to and what they're not eligible to, and it has left some people, through no fault or through no intention, I don't think, on the part of the Government, without support. We talk a lot about building back better, about living our lives in a different way, about perhaps being able to learn some positives about what we've all had to live through in this crisis. And we, in Plaid Cymru, believe that now is the time - and we accept that, with the physical settlement as it is, it would have to be at a UK level, but that we would aspire in the longer term for Wales to be able to do this ourselves - for our nation to provide all citizens with a basic income so that they know that they are safe. Now, where this has been introduced, there is no evidence whatsoever that it has stopped people from wanting to work, and, where it's been piloted, it's had the opposite effect. It's enabled people to work in different ways. It's enabled them to take risks - entrepreneurial risks - that they might otherwise be afraid to do. It's enabled them, for example, to work in the creative sector, where their contribution is huge but where the pay is low. It's enabled people to provide a better balance between work and family life, and it's enabled people to take on civic responsibilities like doing unpaid public work as a community councillor, for example. We really need to be thinking differently now, and I think most of us, though perhaps not all of us in this Chamber, would acknowledge that the current benefits system is unfair, is divisive. It's also very expensive to implement, very expensive to police. I've lost track of the number of people who've never come across the benefits system but who are now having to in the last few weeks and who've said to me, 'I cannot live on this', when they're talking about the level of universal credit. And, yet, the truth is, as the First Minister knows, that there are many of our citizens that have no choice. I hope that perhaps, in this greater understanding where more people who perhaps would never have expected to find themselves in economic hardship, find themselves in difficulties, where we are all rightly praising a lot of very low-paid staff who could also be helped by a universal basic income, like carers, one of the good things that will come out of this dark time is a stronger sense of social solidarity and a chance for us to live our lives in a different way. A citizen-based universal income that was available to all of us and, for those of us who didn't need it, would be repaid through the tax system, would be the best and clearest indication of that new social solidarity and would put everybody on a firm footing to enable them to really be part of the process of building back better. Diolch yn fawr.
Welsh: Hoffwn siarad am ddau o'r gwelliannau, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Siân Gwenllian - gwelliant 4 mewn perthynas â chefnogi'r comisiynwyr heddlu a throseddu a'r prif gwnstabliaid a'u dymuniad am ddirwyon uwch am dorri'r rheoliadau iechyd, a gwelliant 9, sy'n sôn am yr angen am incwm sylfaenol cyffredinol wrth inni symud allan o'r cyfyngiadau symud. Hoffwn ddechrau drwy ganmol y dull o weithredu y mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi'i fabwysiadu. Yn sicr, credaf mai dull mwy gofalus a mwy synhwyrol yw'r hyn a glywaf sy'n iawn ym marn fy etholwyr ledled canolbarth a gorllewin Cymru. Dyma hefyd a glywaf gan fy ffrindiau a chan ffrindiau fy merch. Nid ydym yn credu ei bod yn ddiogel - fel gwlad, nid ydym yn credu ei bod hi'n ddiogel inni godi'r cyfyngiadau symud yn rhy gyflym. Ac er fy mod yn clywed yr hyn a ddywed Nick Ramsay am ddull pedair gwlad, a gwn mai dyma mae'r Prif Weinidog a'i gyd-Aelodau'n ceisio'i gyflawni, os yw Llywodraeth y DU, gan weithredu fel Llywodraeth Lloegr, yn gwneud pethau'n anghywir, mae'r Prif Weinidog yn amlwg yn gywir i anghytuno yn fy marn i. Hoffwn sôn am y sefyllfa yng nghanolbarth a gorllewin Cymru mewn perthynas ag ofnau pobl ynglŷn â thwristiaeth yn ailgychwyn. Ac mae angen i mi ddweud wrth y Prif Weinidog fod fy etholwyr ledled canolbarth a gorllewin Cymru yn ofnus. Mae llawer ohonynt yn ddigon ffodus i fyw mewn rhannau o Gymru lle mae'r gyfradd R wedi aros yn isel iawn, ac rydym yn awyddus dros ben i'w chadw felly. Maent hefyd yn gwybod eu bod yn ffodus iawn i fyw yn rhai o'r cymunedau harddaf a'r lleoedd harddaf ar yr ynysoedd hyn, ac rwy'n falch o'u cynrychioli. Ond nid dyma'r amser i bobl fod yn dod yma. Nawr, mae mwyafrif helaeth ein hymwelwyr rheolaidd â Chymru, ac ymwelwyr a ddaw i gefn gwlad Cymru o drefi Cymru hefyd - oherwydd nid mater o Gymru a Lloegr yw hwn, ond mater o gadw'r cymunedau gwledig yn ddiogel - yn bod yn barchus; maent yn cadw draw ac edrychwn ymlaen at eu croesawu yn ôl. Ond mae ein gwasanaeth heddlu yn dweud yn wirioneddol glir wrthym fod lleiafrif bach o bobl yn anwybyddu'r rheoliadau hynny. Credaf y byddai pob un ohonom yn cytuno, ac rwy'n siŵr y byddai'r Prif Weinidog yn cytuno â mi yn hyn o beth, mai dull y gwasanaeth heddlu o addysgu a hysbysu yw'r un cywir, ac roedd y mwyafrif helaeth o bobl, y penwythnos diwethaf, a oedd mewn penbleth oherwydd y newidiadau i'r rheoliadau yn Lloegr, nad oeddent yn berthnasol yng Nghymru o ran gallu gyrru i fynd am dro, er enghraifft, yn fwy na pharod i droi rownd a mynd yn ôl. Ond dywed yr heddlu wrthym fod yna leiafrif bach o bobl nad ydynt i'w gweld yn malio dim. Mae swyddogion yr heddlu yng ngogledd fy rhanbarth yn dweud wrthyf eu bod wedi gweld pobl yn troseddu fwy nag unwaith - pobl sydd wedi gyrru dro ar ôl tro, nid ar un penwythnos yn unig, ond ar un penwythnos ar ôl y llall, yn ôl i'r ardal, gan nad yw'r dirwyon yn eu rhwystro - nid ydynt yn ataliad. Nawr, gwn fod Llywodraeth Cymru yn ymfalchïo, yn hollol briodol, yn y ffaith ei bod yn gwrando ar bobl ar y rheng flaen, a phan ydym mewn sefyllfa lle mae'r comisiynwyr heddlu a throseddu - y pedwar ohonynt - a'r prif gwnstabliaid - y pedwar ohonynt - yn dweud wrthym, wrth ymdrin â'r lleiafrif bach ystyfnig hwnnw, fod eu dwylo ynghlwm gan nad yw'r cosbau sydd ar gael yn ddigon difrifol i fod yn ataliad, rwy'n gofyn o ddifrif i'r Prif Weinidog esbonio i mi pam nad yw'n gwrando arnynt, ac yn bwysicach, esbonio i fy etholwyr ac i swyddogion yr heddlu sy'n gorfod gweithredu'r polisïau hyn, pam nad yw i'w weld yn gwrando arnynt. Rwyf wedi clywed yr hyn y mae wedi'i ddweud; nid wyf yn deall ei resymeg. Ond fe drof at faes lle rwy'n gobeithio y gallwn gytuno, sef y syniad o symud yn yr oes ôl-COVID tuag at incwm sylfaenol cyffredinol. Nawr, mae hwn yn syniad rwyf wedi dadlau o'i blaid ers peth amser, ac mae wedi cael ei weld ar brydiau fel syniad rhamantus a fyddai'n braf ar ryw adeg yn y dyfodol, ond wrth gwrs, gwelsom Lywodraeth Sbaen yn cyflwyno hyn. Mewn ymateb i'r argyfwng, mae'n rhaid inni ganmol ymdrechion Llywodraeth Cymru a Llywodraeth y DU yn cefnogi bywoliaeth pobl, ond fel rydym newydd glywed yn y datganiad gan Weinidog yr economi, mae hynny wedi rhoi darlun cymhleth iawn i ni. Mae'n gwneud pobl yn ddryslyd ynglŷn â'r hyn y maent yn gymwys i'w gael a'r hyn nad ydynt yn gymwys i'w gael, ac mae wedi gadael rhai pobl heb gymorth, a hynny'n anfwriadol, rwy'n credu, a heb fod unrhyw fai ar ran y Llywodraeth. Rydym yn sôn yn aml am ailadeiladu'n well, am fyw ein bywydau mewn ffordd wahanol, am ddysgu rhai pethau cadarnhaol, efallai, am yr hyn y mae pob un ohonom wedi gorfod byw drwyddo yn yr argyfwng hwn. Ac rydym ni, ym Mhlaid Cymru, yn credu mai nawr yw'r amser - ac rydym yn derbyn, gyda'r setliad cyllidol fel y mae, y byddai'n rhaid iddo fod ar lefel y DU, ond byddem yn dyheu yn y tymor hwy i Gymru allu gwneud hyn ein hunain - nawr yw'r amser i'n gwlad ddarparu incwm sylfaenol i bob dinesydd fel eu bod yn gwybod eu bod yn ddiogel. Nawr, lle mae hyn wedi'i gyflwyno, nid oes unrhyw dystiolaeth o gwbl ei fod wedi atal pobl rhag bod eisiau gweithio, a lle mae wedi'i dreialu, mae wedi cael effaith i'r gwrthwyneb. Mae wedi galluogi pobl i weithio mewn gwahanol ffyrdd. Mae wedi eu galluogi i fentro - mentro'n entrepreneuraidd - mewn ffordd y byddent yn ofni ei wneud fel arall. Mae wedi eu galluogi, er enghraifft, i weithio yn y sector creadigol, lle mae eu cyfraniad yn enfawr ond lle mae'r cyflog yn isel. Mae wedi galluogi pobl i ddarparu gwell cydbwysedd rhwng gwaith a bywyd teuluol, ac mae wedi galluogi pobl i ysgwyddo cyfrifoldebau dinesig fel gwneud gwaith cyhoeddus di-dâl fel cynghorydd cymunedol, er enghraifft. Mae gwir angen inni feddwl yn wahanol bellach, a chredaf y byddai'r mwyafrif ohonom, er nad pob un ohonom yn y Siambr hon efallai, yn cydnabod bod y system fudd-daliadau bresennol yn annheg, yn ymrannol. Mae hefyd yn ddrud iawn i'w gweithredu, yn ddrud iawn i'w phlismona. Rwyf wedi colli cyfrif ar nifer y bobl nad ydynt erioed wedi dod ar draws y system fudd-daliadau ond sydd bellach yn gorfod gwneud hynny yn ystod yr wythnosau diwethaf ac sydd wedi dweud wrthyf, 'Ni allaf fyw ar hyn', pan fyddant yn sôn am lefel y credyd cynhwysol. Ac eto, y gwir amdani, fel y gŵyr y Prif Weinidog, yw nad oes dewis gan lawer o'n dinasyddion ond gwneud hynny. Yn y ddealltwriaeth well hon, lle mae mwy o bobl na fyddent erioed wedi disgwyl wynebu caledi economaidd yn ei chael hi'n anodd, lle mae pob un ohonom, yn gwbl briodol, yn canmol llawer o staff ar gyflogau isel iawn a allai hefyd gael eu cynorthwyo gan incwm sylfaenol cyffredinol, megis gofalwyr, rwy'n gobeithio efallai mai un o'r pethau da a ddeillia o'r amser tywyll hwn yw ymdeimlad cryfach o undod cymdeithasol a chyfle inni fyw ein bywydau mewn ffordd wahanol. Incwm cyffredinol i ddinasyddion ac sydd ar gael i bob un ohonom, a fyddai'n cael ei ad-dalu drwy'r system dreth gan y rheini ohonom nad oes arnom ei angen, fyddai'r arwydd gorau a chliriaf o'r undod cymdeithasol newydd hwnnw, a byddai'n rhoi pawb ar sylfaen gadarn i'w galluogi i fod yn rhan o'r broses o ailadeiladu'n well. Diolch yn fawr.