English: I disagree that sustainable communities for learning will cost more in the long term, because there may be a short-term cost, as builders become familiar with all the new ways of building that we've already demonstrated can work in social housing, but, in the longer term, I agree absolutely with the Minister - we cannot afford to do nothing, simply because schools will simply be left with massive energy bills and water bills that they could otherwise be spending on books and learning. So, I absolutely welcome the statement from the Minister. There's a great deal that we're going to need to do, but there are an awful lot of schools with generous parcels of land attached that have really boring outdoor learning environments, and they can do more about that without massive sums of money, they've just got to give their thought to it. And just think that, instead of having to spend £600 a year on a school bus, you could spend £600 - sorry, £400 a year - on buying a bike. The long-term benefits to the individual and to that family are just huge. I do think that special attention needs to be given to the Victorian or Edwardian inner-city schools, because retrofitting is going to be really complicated and, in addition to that, they don't have the capacity to expand, because they're surrounded by other buildings, so creating the learning environment that we need to ensure that all young people realise the challenges and the opportunities of the net-zero Wales is just that much more challenging. So, I suppose I want to know how you're going to use all this excellent initiative to ensure that new green jobs are not just for those who are the academically less able, but are for everybody, that this is the future if we are really going to make a difference to our society: good design, good buildings, good communities. So, therefore, there's an awful lot of work that needs to be done in schools.
Welsh: Rwy'n anghytuno y bydd cymunedau cynaliadwy ar gyfer dysgu yn costio mwy yn y tymor hir, oherwydd efallai y bydd cost tymor byr, wrth i adeiladwyr ymgyfarwyddo â'r holl ffyrdd newydd o adeiladu yr ydym eisoes wedi dangos eu bod yn gallu gweithio mewn tai cymdeithasol, ond, yn y tymor hwy, cytunaf yn llwyr â'r Gweinidog - ni allwn fforddio gwneud dim byd, oherwydd bydd ysgolion yn cael biliau ynni a biliau dŵr enfawr pryd y gallen nhw fel arall fod yn gwario'r arian ar lyfrau a dysgu. Felly, yr wyf yn croesawu'n llwyr y datganiad gan y Gweinidog. Mae llawer iawn y bydd angen i ni ei wneud, ond mae llawer iawn o ysgolion sydd â darnau o dir sylweddol ynghlwm wrthyn nhw sydd ag amgylcheddau dysgu awyr agored diflas iawn, a gallan nhw wneud mwy ynghylch hynny heb symiau enfawr o arian, mae'n rhaid iddyn nhw feddwl ychydig amdano. A meddyliwch, yn hytrach na gorfod gwario £600 y flwyddyn ar fws ysgol, y gallech wario £600 - mae'n ddrwg gennyf, £400 y flwyddyn - ar brynu beic. Mae'r manteision hirdymor i'r unigolyn ac i'r teulu hwnnw yn enfawr. Credaf fod angen rhoi sylw arbennig i ysgolion canol dinas Fictoraidd neu Edwardaidd, oherwydd bydd ôl-osod yn gymhleth iawn ac, yn ogystal â hynny, nid oes ganddyn nhw'r capasiti i ehangu, oherwydd maen nhw wedi'u hamgylchynu gan adeiladau eraill, felly mae creu'r amgylchedd dysgu sydd ei angen arnom i sicrhau bod pob person ifanc yn sylweddoli heriau a chyfleoedd y Gymru sero-net yn llawer mwy heriol. Felly, am wn i hoffwn wybod sut yr ydych yn mynd i ddefnyddio'r holl fenter ragorol hon i sicrhau nad yw swyddi gwyrdd newydd ar gyfer y rhai sy'n llai abl yn academaidd yn unig, ond i bawb, mai dyma'r dyfodol os ydym mewn gwirionedd yn mynd i wneud gwahaniaeth i'n cymdeithas: dylunio da, adeiladau da, cymunedau da. Felly, mae llawer iawn o waith y mae angen ei wneud mewn ysgolion.