English: Well, I think that reinforces two points. The first is that I still don't think it's helpful to try and say there is a good community health council and that others aren't. I think that's problematic. It's not a view that the national board of community health councils themselves take. And the second is, of course, that, in talking about wanting to have different ways of working, there's a point about whether you want to have a national model, where you say you want some consistency on a national level with local standing, or whether or not you want to have different ways of working across the region. The approach we're taking is actually to say that we want a national model that is consistent, with local standing and local representation. I've indicated I'll bring forward amendments to set that out. And, again, to underscore the independence of the new body, it will be significantly more independent than current community health councils, and I don't believe it will be remote. I will confirm, briefly, in terms of Angela Burns's point, that the consultation responses - there will be a consultation and it'll be published, as is the normal matter of working, on the statutory guidance that I've indicated. On your point about whistleblower protection, I don't think that the face of the Bill is the place to do that, actually. You're talking about employment rights in some of the cultural change. It is important, though, that the duties of quality and candour move us to a position where people are more likely to raise concerns and the organisational response will actually make real the current rights people are supposed to have. And I say that as someone who used to be a former employment lawyer and dealt with the reality of people who had been whistleblowers and the way that they'd been dealt with in their workplace, in the public and the private sector. I hope that in the opening I did demonstrate that I have listened to what committees have had to say, and I'm genuinely interested in developing the best possible piece of legislation. Of course, other people may not agree, and that is part of the point of the scrutiny process and the votes that we cast in this place. But I do hope we'll have the best possible piece of legislation, the response to the recommendations and the approach I've set out for statutory guidance, and I look forward to continuing this debate into Stage 2, and I hope we can have a proper, modern and fit-for-purpose piece of legislation on the statute book here in Wales.
Welsh: Wel, rwy'n credu bod hynny'n atgyfnerthu dau bwynt. Y cyntaf yw nad wyf yn credu ei bod hi'n ddefnyddiol ceisio dweud bod y fath beth â chyngor iechyd cymuned da ac eraill nad ydynt cystal. Rwy'n credu bod hynny'n broblem. Nid yw'n farn y mae bwrdd cenedlaethol y cynghorau iechyd cymuned eu hunain yn ei harddel. A'r ail, wrth gwrs, yw, wrth sôn am fod eisiau gwahanol ffyrdd o weithio, fod pwynt ynghylch a ydych chi eisiau model cenedlaethol, pryd yr ydych chi'n dweud bod arnoch chi eisiau rhywfaint o gysondeb yn genedlaethol gyda statws lleol, neu pa un a ydych chi eisiau ffyrdd gwahanol o weithio ar draws y rhanbarth ai peidio. Y ffordd yr ydym ni'n mynd ati mewn gwirionedd yw dweud ein bod eisiau model cenedlaethol sy'n gyson, gyda statws lleol a chynrychiolaeth leol. Rwyf wedi dweud y byddaf yn cyflwyno gwelliannau i egluro hynny. Ac, unwaith eto, i danlinellu annibyniaeth y corff newydd, bydd yn llawer mwy annibynnol na'r cynghorau iechyd cymuned presennol, ac nid wyf yn credu y bydd yn ynysig. Cadarnhaf, yn fyr, o ran pwynt Angela Burns, y bydd yr ymatebion i'r ymgynghoriad - cynhelir ymgynghoriad ac fe gaiff ei gyhoeddi, yn ogystal â'r mater arferol o weithio, ar y canllawiau statudol yr wyf wedi'u nodi. O ran eich pwynt am ddiogelu chwythwr chwiban, nid wyf yn credu mai wyneb y Bil yw'r lle i wneud hynny, mewn gwirionedd. Rydych chi'n sôn am hawliau cyflogaeth yn rhywfaint o'r newid diwylliannol. Mae'n bwysig, fodd bynnag, fod y dyletswyddau o ran ansawdd a gonestrwydd yn ein symud i sefyllfa pryd y bydd pobl yn fwy tebygol o godi pryderon ac y bydd ymateb y sefydliad mewn gwirionedd yn gwireddu'r hawliau presennol sydd i fod gan bobl. Ac rwy'n dweud hynny fel rhywun a arferai fod yn gyfreithiwr cyflogaeth ac a oedd yn ymdrin â realiti pobl a chwythodd y chwiban a'r ffordd yr ymdriniwyd â nhw yn eu gweithle, yn y sector cyhoeddus a phreifat. Rwy'n gobeithio imi ddangos yn yr agoriad fy mod wedi gwrando ar yr hyn y mae'r pwyllgorau wedi'i ddweud, ac mae gennyf ddiddordeb gwirioneddol mewn datblygu'r darn gorau posibl o ddeddfwriaeth. Wrth gwrs, efallai nad yw pobl eraill yn cytuno, ac mae hynny'n rhan o ddiben y broses graffu a'r pleidleisiau a fwriwyd yn y fan yma. Ond rwyf yn gobeithio y bydd gennym ni'r darn gorau posibl o ddeddfwriaeth, yr ymateb i'r argymhellion a'r dull gweithredu yr wyf wedi'i amlinellu ar gyfer canllawiau statudol, ac edrychaf ymlaen at barhau â'r ddadl hon yng Nghyfnod 2, a gobeithiaf y gallwn ni gael darlun cywir, modern a deddfwriaeth addas i'r diben ar y llyfr statud yma yng Nghymru.