English: I'm grateful to the Counsel General for his reply. I'm afraid he might be getting rather fed up with me this afternoon. I would like to take this opportunity, Llywydd, just to remind the Chamber of the scale of this problem. We have an estimated 195,000 women across Wales affected by that - over 41,000 in the region that I represent. I'd like to ask the Counsel General this afternoon - he mentioned in his response the ongoing appeal - to look and see whether there is any way that he and the Welsh Government, given the impact of that loss of income to Wales from those women who are not receiving those pensions, could look again to see if there's any way that he can provide any support to the appeal, or perhaps produce some evidence - and that would be another part of the Welsh Government rather than him himself - to support that appeal. And can I also ask him to have discussions, particularly depending on the outcome of the general election, of course, with his colleagues in the Labour Party at UK level? Now, they have already pledged to extend pension credit to the women affected, but that's a means-tested benefit and it is not fair to ask those women who have lost a benefit to which they're entitled to ask for means-tested benefits in order to get redress. So, can I ask the Counsel General if he or the appropriate person in the Welsh Government will make representations on behalf of these women should his party find itself in Government? Nobody underestimates the scale of the problem, but I'm sure that he would agree with me that it's also difficult to underestimate the scale of the injustice.
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar i'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol am ei ateb. Rwy'n ofni y bydd wedi cael llond bol arnaf i'r prynhawn yma. Fe hoffwn i achub ar y cyfle hwn, Llywydd, i atgoffa'r Siambr o raddfa'r broblem hon. Amcangyfrifir bod hyn yn effeithio ar 195,000 o fenywod ledled Cymru - dros 41,000 yn y rhanbarth yr wyf i'n ei gynrychioli. Fe hoffwn i ofyn i'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol y prynhawn yma - fe soniodd ef yn ei ymateb am yr apêl sy'n mynd rhagddi - i edrych ac ystyried unwaith eto a oes unrhyw ffordd y gall Llywodraeth Cymru ac yntau, o gofio effaith colli'r incwm hwnnw i Gymru o ran y menywod hynny nad ydynt yn cael y pensiynau hyn, ac a oes yna unrhyw ffordd y gallai ef roi cymorth i'r apêl, neu gyflwyno rhywfaint o dystiolaeth efallai - a rhan arall o Lywodraeth Cymru yn hytrach nag ef ei hunan fyddai'n gwneud hynny - i gefnogi'r apêl honno. Ac a gaf i ofyn iddo gynnal trafodaethau hefyd, yn enwedig yn dibynnu ar ganlyniad yr etholiad cyffredinol, wrth gwrs, gyda'i gyd-aelodau ef yn y Blaid Lafur ar lefel y DU? Nawr, maen nhw eisoes wedi addo ymestyn credyd pensiwn i'r menywod y mae hyn yn effeithio arnynt, ond budd-dal prawf modd yw hwnnw ac nid yw'n deg gofyn i'r menywod hynny sydd wedi colli budd-dal y mae ganddyn nhw'r hawl iddo ofyn am fudd-daliadau prawf modd er mwyn cael cyfiawnder. Felly, a gaf i ofyn i'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol a fydd ef neu'r unigolyn priodol yn Llywodraeth Cymru yn cyflwyno sylwadau ar ran y menywod hyn pe byddai ei blaid ef mewn grym? Mae pawb yn gwerthfawrogi maint y broblem hon, ond rwy'n siŵr y byddai ef yn cytuno â mi ei bod hefyd yn anodd peidio â sylweddoli graddfa'r anghyfiawnder.