English: I think it's a different question altogether. The point at issue in relation to the autism Bill was, and the points that've been raised today by Andrew R.T. Davies, for example, were just about why have a trade union Bill rather than an autism Bill. That is a choice that has been made. In relation to what Lee Waters said - [Interruption.] I'm not going into the merits of that decision, I'm merely making a question about process. In relation to an intervention from Lee Waters in an earlier debate about the autism Bill, I think this is rather a different proposal, because this is an obligation to consult the people, not just a decision that is made by us as Members of this Assembly. This is a major constitutional change, the devolution of income-tax-raising powers. The people were promised, and it was enshrined in legislation, the right to decide for themselves, not us deciding on their behalf, whether this should be proceeded with. I think removing that provision is a constitutional deficiency so great that we are going to make a protest by voting against this motion today. Of course, we know that the motion will be passed, so our decision is not going to have any great effect in constitutional terms. But, nevertheless, I think it is an important principle that politicians should keep their promises and should be held to their word, and no reason that I've seen has been advanced for this decision. Nobody has made a positive case for not allowing the people to decide this issue - if so, I'd be happy to give way now. [Interruption.] Yes.
Welsh: Rwy'n credu ei fod yn gwestiwn hollol wahanol. Yr oll oedd y pwynt dan sylw ynglŷn â'r Bil awtistiaeth, a'r pwyntiau a godwyd heddiw gan Andrew R.T. Davies, er enghraifft, oedd pam cael Bil undeb llafur yn hytrach na Bil awtistiaeth. Mae hwnnw'n ddewis sydd wedi'i wneud. O ran yr hyn a ddywedodd Lee Waters - [Torri ar draws.] Nid wyf yn sôn am rinweddau'r penderfyniad hwnnw, dim ond gofyn cwestiwn am broses. O ran ymyriad gan Lee Waters mewn dadl gynharach am y Bil awtistiaeth, rwy'n credu bod hwn yn gynnig eithaf gwahanol, oherwydd mae hwn yn rhwymedigaeth i ymgynghori â'r bobl, nid dim ond penderfyniad sy'n cael ei wneud gennym ni fel Aelodau o'r Cynulliad hwn. Mae hwn yn newid cyfansoddiadol mawr, datganoli pwerau codi treth incwm. Addawyd i'r bobl, a chafodd hyn ei ymgorffori mewn deddfwriaeth, yr hawl i benderfynu drostynt eu hunain, yn hytrach na'n bod ni'n penderfynu ar eu rhan, pa un a ddylid bwrw ymlaen â hyn. Rwy'n credu bod cael gwared ar y ddarpariaeth honno yn ddiffyg cyfansoddiadol mor fawr fel ein bod yn mynd i wneud protest drwy bleidleisio yn erbyn y cynnig hwn heddiw. Wrth gwrs, rydym yn gwybod y caiff y cynnig ei basio, felly nid yw ein penderfyniad yn mynd i gael unrhyw effaith fawr ar y cyfansoddiad. Ond, serch hynny, rwy'n credu ei bod yn egwyddor bwysig y dylai gwleidyddion gadw eu haddewidion ac y dylid sicrhau eu bod yn cadw at eu gair, ac nid wyf wedi gweld rheswm yn cael ei gynnig am y penderfyniad hwn. Nid oes unrhyw un wedi gwneud achos cadarnhaol dros beidio â chaniatáu i'r bobl benderfynu ar y mater hwn - os oes, byddwn yn hapus i ildio nawr. [Torri ar draws.] Byddwn.