English: Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer. Minister, I'm delighted to see this report today. I called for an independent review of this case and was excoriated - not by the Minister, who gently let me down in this Chamber, but by members of Ceredigion and Pembrokeshire county councils - for calling for an independent review. My reason for calling for an independent review was because of the very point that was raised here: multi-agency communication and working together. Joyce Watson has raised a part of it, but let's be really clear, Minister, there was a ministerial advisory group in place, Pembrokeshire County Council was in special measures, it had been crawled all over by Estyn, it had been crawled all over by the Care and Social Services Inspectorate Wales, and none of those organisations thought, 'Oh gosh, there is the death of a child and no-one's conducting any review on it'. No-one thought that was out of the ordinary; no-one thought that was extraordinary. Finally, Dylan Seabridge is the saddest victim in this case, but there is another victim and that is the whistleblower, who should've been protected by all the whistleblowing policies and protocols that we have in place. A whistleblower who has been, again, excoriated themselves - and it's mainly one, but there is a second - who's had a terrible time of it in their job. I can't mention their name. They were treated quite badly as well by this very review body, which gave them a very limited amount of time - offered to meet, withdrew the offer to meet, and all this kind of nonsense. We're here to protect our whistleblowers; we need whistleblowers to operate in all large organisations, public and private, to tell us when we're doing wrong. Somebody tried to tell us we were doing wrong; we didn't listen.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Weinidog, rwyf wrth fy modd o weld yr adroddiad hwn heddiw. Gelwais am adolygiad annibynnol o'r achos hwn a chefais fy nghystwyo - nid gan y Gweinidog, a adawodd fi i lawr yn ysgafn yn y Siambr hon, ond gan aelodau cynghorau sir Ceredigion a Sir Benfro - am alw am adolygiad annibynnol. Fy rheswm dros alw am adolygiad annibynnol oedd yr union bwynt a godwyd yma: cyfathrebu amlasiantaethol a chydweithio. Mae Joyce Watson wedi sôn am ran ohono, ond dewch inni fod yn wirioneddol glir, Weinidog; roedd grŵp cynghori gweinidogol ar waith, roedd Cyngor Sir Benfro mewn mesurau arbennig, roedd Estyn wedi mynd drwyddo â chrib fân, roedd Arolygiaeth Gofal a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol Cymru wedi mynd drwyddo â chrib fân, ac ni wnaeth dim un o'r sefydliadau hynny feddwl, 'O diar, dyma farwolaeth plentyn ac nid oes neb yn cynnal adolygiad arno'. Ni wnaeth neb feddwl bod hynny'n anghyffredin; ni wnaeth neb feddwl bod hynny'n anhygoel. Yn olaf, Dylan Seabridge yw'r dioddefwr tristaf yn yr achos hwn, ond mae yna ddioddefwr arall, sef y sawl a chwythodd y chwiban, a ddylai fod wedi'i warchod gan yr holl bolisïau a phrotocolau chwythu'r chwiban sydd gennym ar waith. Chwythwr chwiban sydd, unwaith eto, wedi cael ei gystwyo ei hun - gan un yn bennaf, ond mae ail - sydd wedi cael amser ofnadwy yn ei swydd. Ni allaf enwi'r unigolyn. Cafodd yr unigolyn ei drin yn eithaf drwg hefyd gan yr union gorff adolygu hwn, a roddodd ychydig iawn o amser i'r unigolyn - cynnig cyfarfod, tynnu'r cynnig hwnnw'n ôl, a phob math o nonsens felly. Rydym yma i warchod ein chwythwyr chwiban; mae arnom angen chwythwyr chwiban ym mhob sefydliad mawr, cyhoeddus a phreifat, i ddweud wrthym pan fyddwn yn gwneud drwg. Ceisiodd rhywun ddweud wrthym ein bod yn gwneud drwg; wnaethom ni ddim gwrando.