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English: The Welsh Government has put a pledge on the table that if the Westminster Government increases their contribution, then the Welsh Government will match that. Politically, and as someone one who is quite new to the relationship with politicians of both Governments, it has been an interesting experience. What I would ask for is that: in the discussions that we have, can we establish some sort of system or arrangements for those discussions? It has been - what's the word? I'll use a commonly used word - it's been quite random. We have discussions with one Minister, there's no agenda and there's no report on progress. I did ask for that from one of the Ministers in Westminster. Of course, it hasn't been of great assistance that we've had five Ministers to deal with from Westminster. But there we go - that was the situation that we had to work with. But it wasn't ideal. Some were easier to deal with than others, and one occasionally felt that we had reached some particular marker of success and that we had to step back and another barrier was placed before us. I would just ask for a well-managed relationship and a professional relationship, if you like, between the three players involved. I didn't see that in the past. Perhaps, there will be better arrangements in place for the future.
Welsh: Mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi rhoi addewid ar y bwrdd: os yw Llywodraeth Westminster yn cynyddu eu cyfraniad nhw, yna bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn cyfateb â'r cyfraniad hwnnw. Yn wleidyddol, ac fel rhywun sy'n weddol newydd yn y berthynas gyda gwleidyddion o'r ddwy Lywodraeth, mae wedi bod yn brofiad diddorol. Yr hyn y buaswn i'n gofyn amdano fo ydy: yn y trafodaethau rydym ni'n eu cael, allwn ni sefydlu rhyw fath o drefn i'r trafodaethau hynny? Mae o wedi bod yn - beth ydy'r gair? Wel, a defnyddio gair sy'n cael ei ddefnyddio'n gyffredin - mae wedi bod braidd yn random. Rydym ni'n cael trafodaethau gydag un Gweinidog, does yna ddim agenda a does yna ddim adroddiad ar gynnydd. Mi wnes i ofyn am hynny, a dweud y gwir, wrth un o'r Gweinidogion yn Westminster. Wrth gwrs, dydy o ddim wedi bod yn help ein bod ni wedi cael pum Gweinidog i ddelio efo nhw o Westminster. Wel, dyna fo - dyna oedd y sefyllfa yr oedd yn rhaid i ni weithio hefo fo. Ond doedd o ddim yn help. Roedd yna ambell un yn haws i ddelio efo fo na'r lleill, ac roedd rhywun yn teimlo weithiau ein bod ni wedi cyrraedd rhyw bwynt o lwyddiant, ac wedyn yn gorfod camu'n ôl a bod yna rhyw rwystr arall yn cael ei roi o'n blaenau ni. Buaswn i jest yn gofyn am berthynas drefnus, broffesiynol, os liciwch chi, rhwng y tair haen yma. Doeddwn i ddim yn gweld hynny yn y cyfnod a fu. Hwyrach y cawn ni well trefn yn y dyfodol.
English: Thank you all very much.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr i chi i gyd am eich gwrandawiad.
English: As you know, Mr Chairman, the commission has worked very hard and very enthusiastically with the Assembly and with the Assembly Commission on the legislation that is currently passing - indeed, the legislation that I believe comes into force today, if I understand things correctly. So, I'd like to congratulate everyone involved on that. And of course, we have worked with the Welsh Government and everyone else on this particular Bill, and we are very prepared to continue collaborating into the future. As a matter of principle, the commission constantly calls for the reform of elections and we are always willing to collaborate to ensure that arrangements are easier and more modern.
Welsh: Fel rydych chi'n gwybod, Mr Cadeirydd, mae'r comisiwn wedi gweithio yn ddyfal ac yn frwdfrydig iawn efo'r Cynulliad ac efo Comisiwn y Cynulliad ar y ddeddfwriaeth sydd yn mynd drwodd ar hyn o bryd - yn wir, y ddeddfwriaeth dwi'n credu sy'n dod i rym heddiw, os ydw i'n deall yn iawn. Llongyfarchiadau mawr i bawb ar hynny. Ac wrth gwrs, rydym ni hefyd wedi gweithio gyda Llywodraeth Cymru a phawb arall ar y Mesur hwn, ac rydym ni'n barod iawn i gydweithio i'r dyfodol. Fel mater o egwyddor, mae'r comisiwn yn galw yn gyson am ddiwygio etholiadau, ac rydym ni bob amser yn barod i gydweithio i sicrhau bod y trefniadau yn hwylusach ac yn fwy modern.
English: Good morning. Welcome to the Finance Committee in the Assembly today. Can I welcome each and every one of you and note, as usual, that headphones are available for interpretation or to amplify the sound? May I also remind Members to turn off the sound on any electronic devices? Can I ask if any Members have any declarations of interest to declare? No. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Bore da. Croeso i Bwyllgor Cyllid y Cynulliad y bore yma. A gaf i groesawu pob un ohonoch chi a nodi fel arfer, wrth gwrs, bod yna glustffonau ar gael ar gyfer y cyfieithu neu i addasu lefel y sain? Ac a gaf i atgoffa Aelodau hefyd i ddiffodd y sain ar unrhyw ddyfeisiadau electronig? A gaf i ofyn a oes gan unrhyw Aelod fuddiannau i'w datgan? Nac oes. Iawn. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
English: The next item is papers to note. We have three papers to note. The first is a letter from the Minister for Health and Social Services on the National Health Service (Indemnities) (Wales) Bill from 7 January 2020. The second letter is the letter from the Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services on the Children (Abolition of Defence of Reasonable Punishment) (Wales) Bill from 7 January 2020. And we note that the costs for that Bill have been amended and that we as a committee will, therefore, write to the Minister to emphasise the fact that there has been a change and that it's been quite a bit more significant than we had expected. The third letter to note is the letter from the Chair of the Public Accounts Committee on the ministerial direction for NHS pension arrangements 2019-20 from 8 January 2020. Are Members happy to note all three papers? Thank you very much.
Welsh: Yr eitem nesaf, felly, yw papurau i'w nodi. Mae yna dri phapur. Y papur cyntaf yw'r llythyr gan y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol ynghylch Bil y Gwasanaeth Iechyd Gwladol (Indemniadau) (Cymru) o 7 Ionawr 2020. Yr ail bapur yw llythyr gan y Dirprwy Weinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol ynghylch Bil Plant (Diddymu Amddiffyniad Cosb Resymol) (Cymru) o 7 Ionawr 2020. Ac rydym ni'n nodi bod y costau ar gyfer y Bil hwnnw wedi cael eu diwygio ac mi fyddwn ni fel pwyllgor, felly, yn ysgrifennu at y Gweinidog i danlinellu, efallai, y ffaith bod yna newid wedi bod a'i fod yn fwy sylweddol, efallai, nad oedd rhai ohonom ni wedi ei ddisgwyl. Y trydydd papur i'w nodi yw llythyr gan Gadeirydd y Pwyllgor Cyfrifon Cyhoeddus ar y cyfarwyddyd gweinidogol ar gyfer trefniadau pensiwn y gwasanaeth iechyd cenedlaethol ar gyfer 2019-20, yn ddyddiedig 8 Ionawr 2020. A ydy Aelodau yn hapus i nodi'r tri phapur yna? Diolch yn fawr iawn.
English: We'll move on, therefore, to the first evidence session this morning. We welcome the panel here, who are: David Phillips, who is the associate director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies; Guto Ifan and Cian Sion, who are research associates with the Wales Governance Centre - welcome to both of you too - and to Michael Trickey, who is programme director for Wales Public Services 2025, from Cardiff University [correction: honorary senior research fellow, Wales fiscal analysis programme, Cardiff University]. Welcome to every one of you. We'll go straight into questions because we do have some time restrictions this morning. I'll start, if I may, by asking the Wales Governance Centre specifically, in the first instance: in your recent report, 'Austerity is over - for now', you describe the real-terms increase for 2019-20 and 2020-21 as a step change in the path of the Welsh resource budget. Could you explain a little more about what you mean by this and the impact that you think that will have on the funding available for public services?
Welsh: Ymlaen â ni, felly, at y sesiwn dystiolaeth gyntaf y bore yma. Rydym ni'n croesawu y panel, sef: David Phillips, sy'n gyfarwyddwr cyswllt y Sefydliad Astudiaethau Cyllid; Guto Ifan a Cian Sion, sy'n gymrodorion ymchwil gyda Chanolfan Llywodraethiant Cymru - croeso i'r ddau ohonoch chi hefyd - ac i Michael Trickey, cyfarwyddwr rhaglen Gwasanaethau Cyhoeddus Cymru 2025 o Brifysgol Caerdydd [cywiriad: uwch gymrawd ymchwil er anrhydedd, rhaglen dadansoddi cyllidol Cymru, Prifysgol Caerdydd]. Croeso i bob un ohonoch chi. Mi awn ni'n syth i gwestiynau oherwydd bod tipyn o ymrwymiadau amser arnom ni y bore yma. Mi wnaf i gychwyn, os caf i, gan ofyn yn benodol i Ganolfan Llywodraethiant Cymru yn y lle cyntaf: yn eich adroddiad diweddar chi, 'Austerity is over - for now', rŷch chi'n disgrifio'r cynnydd mewn termau real ar gyfer 2019-20 a 2020-21 fel newid sylweddol - ' step change ' yw'r term dŷch chi'n ei ddefnyddio - yn llwybr cyllideb adnoddau Cymru. Allwch chi egluro, efallai, ychydig mwy ynglŷn â beth rŷch chi'n ei olygu wrth hynny a'r effaith rŷch chi'n meddwl bydd hynny'n ei gael ar y cyllid sydd ar gael ar gyfer gwasanaethau cyhoeddus?
English: This year, namely 2019-20, the budget is growing by 1 per cent - the day-to-day budget and expenditure are growing by 1 per cent. Next year, the budget will grow by 2.3 per cent in real terms. Compared with the budgets that we've seen over the last 10 years, that's the biggest increase, certainly since 2010 and maybe since 2008-09. That's going to allow the Welsh Government, as they've set out in their draft budget, to invest in many more areas and priorities than was possible before that increase came in. In the context of the cuts that have been made since 2010, we're still well below where we were in real terms, particularly considering the ageing population and population growth in that period.
Welsh: Eleni, sef 2019-20, mae'r gyllideb yn tyfu o tua 1 y cant - mae'r gyllideb a'r gwariant o ddydd i ddydd yn tyfu o 1 y cant. Blwyddyn nesaf, bydd y gyllideb yn tyfu o tua 2.3 y cant mewn termau real. O'i gymharu â'r cyllidebau rŷm ni wedi'u gweld dros y 10 mlynedd diwethaf, dyna'r cynnydd mwyaf, yn sicr ers 2010 ac efallai ers 2008-09. Mae hynny'n mynd i alluogi Llywodraeth Cymru, fel maen nhw wedi gosod allan yn y gyllideb ddrafft, i fuddsoddi mewn llawer mwy o feysydd a blaenoriaethau nag oedd yn bosibl cyn i'r cynnydd hwnnw ddod. Wrth gwrs, yng nghyd-destun y toriadau sydd wedi cael eu gwneud ers 2010, rŷm ni'n dal ymhell islaw lle'r oeddem ni mewn termau real, yn enwedig o ystyried y twf yn y boblogaeth a'r heneiddio yn y boblogaeth dros y cyfnod yna hefyd.
English: So, how sustainable do you think that kind of increase is, going forward, bearing in mind the Government's manifesto commitments and also the fiscal forecasts within the United Kingdom?
Welsh: So, pa mor gynaliadwy ydych chi'n meddwl yw cynnydd o'r fath yn mynd ymlaen, o gofio addewidion maniffesto'r Llywodraeth a hefyd, wrth gwrs, y rhagolwg cyllidol ehangach o fewn y Deyrnas Unedig?
English: I think a lot will become more clear over the next year, as we have a new set of forecasts from the Office for Budget Responsibility. The budget is based on commitments that were made in the 2019 spending round in September, but that was without a new set of forecasts, so when they come through, and perhaps when the UK Government sets out its priorities in terms of taxation and expenditure over the next two or three years, I think maybe David might like to - .
Welsh: Rwy'n credu y bydd lot yn dod yn gliriach dros y flwyddyn nesaf wrth inni gael set newydd o ragolygon o'r Office for Budget Responsibility. Mae'r gyllideb yma yn seiliedig ar addewidion a gafodd eu gwneud yn y cylch gwario 2019 ym mis Medi. Roedd hynny heb set o ragolygon newydd, felly pan ddaw'r rheini drwyddo, ac efallai pan fydd Llywodraeth Prydain yn gosod allan eu blaenoriaethau nhw o ran treth a gwariant dros y ddwy neu dair blynedd nesaf, rwy'n credu efallai y bydd David yn moyn - .
English: Very quickly, in your opinion, does the increase in the Welsh block grant going to health, given that it's not as high as it would have been had it continued to increase as it was 15 years ago - ? In seeing that increase, does it feel sustainable to you, considering the percentage of the entire budget that's going to this?
Welsh: Jest yn sydyn iawn, ydy'r lefel o wariant sydd yn mynd i iechyd, gan eto dderbyn nad ydy o mor uchel ag y byddai o wedi bod pe bai o wedi parhau i gynyddu fel oedd o 15 mlynedd yn ôl - ? Ydy gweld cynnydd o hyd yn teimlo'n gynaliadwy i chi, o ystyried y gyfran o'r holl gyllideb sydd bellach yn mynd i'r maes hwnnw?
English: I think it's worth noting that this is the first year for many years that we haven't seen health taking a higher share of the Welsh budget - it's staying quite flat this year, at 48 per cent of the entire budget day to day. If you compare the increase in health this year - which is about 2.8 per cent, I think, in Wales - with the increase that we saw over the first decade of devolution in Wales, where there was a much bigger increase than that - . So, in the historical context, it's not a particularly high increase. But, certainly, there is a question as to how sustainable that is with our demographics, which are ageing.
Welsh: Dwi'n meddwl ei fod o'n werth nodi - hon ydy'r flwyddyn gyntaf ers llawer o flynyddoedd dydyn ni ddim wedi gweld iechyd yn cymryd siâr uwch o'r gyllideb Gymreig, felly mae'n aros yn weddol fflat y flwyddyn yma, ar 48 y cant o'r gyllideb gyfan ddydd i ddydd. Os ydych chi'n cymharu'r cynnydd mewn iechyd y flwyddyn yma - sydd tua 2.8 y cant, dwi'n credu, yng Nghymru - gyda'r cynnydd roedden ni'n ei weld dros y ddegawd gyntaf o ddatganoli yng Nghymru, lle'r oedd cynnydd llawer uwch na hynny - . Felly, yn y cyd-destun hanesyddol, dydy o ddim wir yn gynnydd hynod o uchel. Ond, yn sicr, mae yna gwestiwn o ran pa mor gynaliadwy ydy hynny gyda'n demograffeg ni sy'n heneiddio.
English: Health on the whole has grown by about 16 per cent in real terms since 2010, but everything but 7 per cent of that has gone towards costs related to a growing and ageing population, so it's not a very big increase. As a share of the economy, it's back to about the level it was at 2010, and given that we're a richer country, there is an argument to say that, for every £1 that the economy grows, you should give more towards health, because that is a priority for people. I think there is a natural tendency for health to grow as a share of the economy over time. But that also comes down to the fact that the population is ageing and that there is pressure, which is not demographic as well, in terms of new technology and so forth, and that, given that the technology is available, you're going to invest in that technology and use that technology, even though it is more costly.
Welsh: Mae iechyd ar y cyfan wedi tyfu gan tua 16 y cant mewn termau real ers 2010, ond mae popeth ond 7 y cant o hynny wedi mynd tuag at gostau ynghlwm â'r boblogaeth yn tyfu ac yn heneiddio. Felly, dyw e ddim yn gynnydd mawr iawn. Fel siâr o'r economi, mae e'n ôl i tua lefelau lle'r oedd e yn 2010, ac o ystyried ein bod ni'n wlad gyfoethocach, mae yna ddadl, dwi'n credu, i ddweud, am bob £1 mae'r economi'n tyfu, eich bod chi'n rhoi mwy tuag at iechyd, achos bod hynny'n flaenoriaeth i bobl. Dwi'n credu bod yna duedd naturiol i iechyd dyfu fel siâr o'r economi dros amser. Ond mae hynny hefyd yn dod i lawr at y ffaith bod y boblogaeth yn heneiddio a bod yna bwysau, sydd ddim yn ddemograffeg hefyd, o ran technoleg newydd sy'n dod, a gan fod y dechnoleg ar gael eich bod chi'n mynd i fuddsoddi yn y dechnoleg yna a defnyddio'r dechnoleg yna, er ei fod e'n fwy costus.
English: The reason I'm concentrating on health is because what goes to health affects what goes to each and every other one. So, is it fair to say, therefore, that there aren't some alarm bells ringing in your minds that the level is much higher or much lower than it should or that it could be as a percentage now of the entire budget?
Welsh: Y rheswm dwi'n canolbwyntio ar iechyd ydy oherwydd mae beth sy'n mynd i iechyd yn effeithio ar beth sy'n mynd i bob un arall oherwydd ei fod o mor fawr. Ydy o'n deg dweud, felly, nad oes yna ddim ryw alarm bells mawr yn canu efo chi bod y lefel yn llawer uwch neu'n llawer is nag y dylai neu y gallai o fod rŵan fel cyfran o'r holl gyllideb? David.
English: I'm afraid we'll have to draw this session to an end. Can I thank you for your evidence? It's been very valuable. You will have a copy of the transcript to check. And with that, could I thank you very much for your evidence? We will be hearing from the Minister in our next session. We'll have a break now as a committee for two minutes and then we'll restart in order to scrutinise the Minister at 09:50.
Welsh: Dwi'n ofni bydd yn rhaid i ni dynnu'r sesiwn i'w therfyn. Gaf i ddiolch i chi am eich tystiolaeth? Mae wedi bod yn hynod werthfawr. Mi gewch chi gopi o'r trawsgrifiad, wrth gwrs, i'w wirio. A gyda hynny, gaf i ddiolch o galon i chi am eich tystiolaeth? Mi fyddwn ni'n clywed gan y Gweinidog yn y sesiwn nesaf. Mi dorrwn ni fel pwyllgor yn llythrennol am ddwy funud er mwyn cychwyn craffu ar y Gweinidog am 09:50.
English: Good morning, all, and welcome to the latest meeting of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee here in the Senedd. Under item 1, may I welcome, first of all, my fellow Members? All are in attendance. I can further explain that, naturally, this meeting is bilingual. Headphones can be used for simultaneous translation from Welsh to English on channel 1, or for amplification on channel 2. We're not expecting a fire alarm this morning, so in the event of a fire alarm, directions from the ushers should be followed. The microphones do operate automatically, as we all know, so there's no need to touch them at all.
Welsh: Bore da i bawb, a chroeso i gyfarfod diweddaraf y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yn y Senedd. O dan eitem 1, gaf i groesawu yn gyntaf oll fy nghyd-Aelodau? Mae pawb yma'n bresennol. Gallaf i'n bellach egluro, yn naturiol, fod y cyfarfod yma yn ddwyieithog. Gellir defnyddio clustffonau i glywed cyfieithu ar y pryd o'r Gymraeg i'r Saesneg ar sianel 1, neu i glywed cyfraniadau yn yr iaith wreiddiol yn well ar sianel 2. Dydyn ni ddim yn disgwyl larwm tân y bore yma, felly os bydd y larwm tân yn canu, dylid dilyn cyfarwyddiadau'r tywyswyr. Mae'r meicroffonau yn gweithio yn awtomatig, fel mae pawb yn gwybod, felly nid oes angen eu cyffwrdd o gwbl.
English: With those few words of introduction, we'll move on straight away, because time is tight this morning, to item 2: Welsh Government draft budget 2020-1. This is the evidence session with the Deputy Minister for Culture, Sport and Tourism. And to that end, I'm very pleased to welcome to the table Dafydd Elis-Thomas, the Deputy Minister for Culture, Sport and Tourism; David Rosser, chief regional officer, Welsh Government; and Jon Beynon, deputy head of sport branch, Welsh Government. Thank you very much for your attendance and thank you very much for the paper that we received beforehand. And as usual, and in accordance with our tradition, we'll go straight into questions, and the first question is from Lynne Neagle. Lynne.
Welsh: Gyda chymaint â hynny o ragymadrodd, mi wnawn ni symud ymlaen yn syth, achos mae amser yn dynn y bore yma, i eitem 2: cyllideb ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2020-1 - sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Dirprwy Weinidog Diwylliant, Chwaraeon a Thwristiaeth. Ac i'r perwyl yna, dwi'n falch iawn o groesawu at y bwrdd Dafydd Elis-Thomas, y Dirprwy Weinidog Diwylliant, Chwaraeon a Thwristiaeth; David Rosser, prif swyddog rhanbarthol Llywodraeth Cymru; a Jon Beynon, dirprwy bennaeth cangen chwaraeon Llywodraeth Cymru. Diolch yn fawr am eich presenoldeb a diolch yn fawr am y papur ymlaen llaw. Ac yn ôl ein harfer a thraddodiad, felly, awn ni'n syth i mewn i gwestiynau, ac mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf gan Lynne Neagle. Lynne.
English: Okay. Thank you very much. That's the end of the session. Thank you for your attendance once more and also for the evidence on paper in advance. Naturally, you will receive a transcript of the proceedings so that you can check them for factual accuracy. But, with those few words, thank you very much, and that's the end of the item.
Welsh: Ocê. Diolch yn yn fawr. Dyna ddiwedd y sesiwn. Diolch am eich presenoldeb unwaith eto a hefyd am y dystiolaeth ar bapur ymlaen llaw. Mi fyddwch, yn naturiol, yn derbyn trawsgrifiad o'r trafodaethau er mwyn i chi allu gwirio eu bod nhw'n ffeithiol gywir. Ond, gyda hynny o ragymadrodd, diolch yn fawr, a dyna ddiwedd yr eitem.
English: Moving on to item 3 - for my fellow Members now - and a motion under Standing Order 17.42 (vi) to resolve to exclude the public from item 4 of today's meeting. All agreed that we go private? Thank you very much.
Welsh: Symud ymlaen i eitem 3 - i'm cyd-Aelodau rŵan - a chynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 (vi) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o eitem 4 y cyfarfod yma heddiw. Ydy pawb yn gytûn i fynd yn breifat? Diolch yn fawr.
English: Welcome back, everyone, after the break to this meeting of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee here in the Senedd. We've reached item 5, on the Welsh Government's draft budget for 2020-21, and this is an evidence session with the Minister for Health and Social Services and the Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services. So, to that end, I'm very pleased to welcome to the table Vaughan Gething, Minister for Health and Social Services; Julie Morgan, Deputy Minister for Health and Social Services; Dr Andrew Goodall, director general health at the Welsh Government; Alan Brace, director of finance at the Welsh Government; and Albert Heaney, director of social services and integration at the Welsh Government. We're very grateful to you for the written evidence you've submitted ahead of time, and, so, as is customary, we have an hour and a half of scrutiny time. We'll go straight to questions. David Rees.
Welsh: Croeso yn ôl i bawb ar ôl y toriad i gyfarfod y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yn y Senedd. Dŷn ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 5 erbyn rŵan: cyllideb ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru 2020-21, sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda'r Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol a'r Dirprwy Weinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol. Felly, i'r perwyl yna, dwi'n falch iawn o groesawu i'r bwrdd Vaughan Gething, y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol; Julie Morgan, y Dirprwy Weinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol; Dr Andrew Goodall, cyfarwyddwr cyffredinol iechyd Llywodraeth Cymru; Alan Brace, cyfarwyddwr cyllid Llywodraeth Cymru; ac Albert Heaney, cyfarwyddwr gwasanaethau cymdeithasol ac integreiddio Llywodraeth Cymru. Dŷn ni'n ddiolchgar iawn am y dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig ymlaen llaw. Felly, yn ôl ein harfer, mae gyda ni rhyw awr a hanner o graffu. Awn ni'n syth fewn i gwestiynu. David Rees.
English: Okay. We're out of time; we're not quite out of questions, so I'll write a letter to you, as Chair, with the two questions that remain to be asked. With your agreement and consent, we'll arrange things in that way. So, that brings us to the end of the session. Thank you very much for your attendance and for providing the written evidence ahead of time. And you will, as usual, receive a transcript of the meeting to check for factual accuracy. So, thank you very much for your attendance. Thank you.
Welsh: Ocê. Rydym ni allan o amser; dydyn ni ddim cweit allan o gwestiynau, felly fe wnaf i ysgrifennu llythyr atoch chi o'r Gadair efo'r ddau gwestiwn sydd ar ôl i'w gofyn. Felly, gyda'ch cytundeb a'ch caniatâd, fe wnawn ni drefnu pethau felly. Felly, dyna ddiwedd y sesiwn. Felly, gallaf ddiolch i chi am eich presenoldeb, a hefyd am ddarparu'r wybodaeth ysgrifenedig ymlaen llaw, ac, wrth gwrs, yn dilyn y traddodiad, byddwch yn derbyn trawsgrifiad o'r cyfarfod yma i allu gwirio ei fod yn ffeithiol gywir. Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich presenoldeb. Diolch yn fawr.
English: And to my fellow Members, we'll move on to item 6, and another motion under Standing Order 17.42 (vi) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting. Everyone content? Content. We'll go to private session.
Welsh: Ac i'm cyd-Aelodau, gwnawn ni symud ymlaen at eitem 6, a chynnig arall o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 (vi) i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod. Pawb yn gytûn? Cytûn. I sesiwn breifat felly.