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English: Yes, thank you, Dawn. I fully appreciate that, but we are talking about people who are casual shoppers most of the time, and they would not be wanting to get one of these monthly tickets. The increases in Newport beggars belief, given that the town has lost out to Cwmbran town centre, which has offered free parking for many years, and resulting in Newport, as Asghar has already pointed out, having the highest shop vacancy figure of any town in Wales. And returning to Carmarthen, when the parking meters were vandalised, resulting in a two-week absence of parking fees, retailers in the town reported an increase of between 15 and 25 per cent in sales. Parking fees are being reinstated in full by Carmarthenshire County Council. Some councils attempt to legitimise this tax by pointing to upkeep costs for car parks - one even suggesting that it costs them £145 per parking space per year. Well, personally I've not come across one of what must be a gold-plated parking space. Whilst we realise that parking fees are the responsibility of local authorities, there are many ways the Welsh Government can use to - well, let's put it as mildly as possible - encourage those authorities to review their car park policies. I urge the Welsh Government to look again at what it can do to take away this blight on the high street business. Thank you.
Welsh: Ie, diolch, Dawn. Rwy'n derbyn hynny'n llwyr, ond rydym yn sôn am bobl sy'n siopwyr achlysurol y rhan fwyaf o'r amser, ac ni fyddent yn dymuno cael un o'r tocynnau misol hyn. Mae'n anodd credu'r cynnydd yn y ffioedd yng Nghasnewydd, o gofio bod y dref yn llusgo ar ôl canol tref Cwmbrân, sy'n cynnig parcio am ddim ers blynyddoedd lawer, gan olygu bod gan Gasnewydd, fel y nododd Asghar eisoes, nifer uwch o siopau gwag na holl drefi eraill Cymru. Ac i ddychwelyd at Gaerfyrddin, pan gafodd y clociau parcio eu fandaleiddio, gan arwain at golli pythefnos o ffioedd parcio, nododd manwerthwyr yn y dref gynnydd o rhwng 15 y cant a 25 y cant yn eu gwerthiant. Mae ffioedd parcio yn cael eu hadfer yn llawn gan Gyngor Sir Caerfyrddin. Mae rhai cynghorau yn ceisio cyfreithloni'r dreth hon drwy bwyntio at gostau cynnal a chadw ar gyfer meysydd parcio - gydag un hyd yn oed yn awgrymu ei bod yn costio £145 y flwyddyn iddynt am bob lle parcio. Wel, yn bersonol nid wyf wedi dod ar draws un o'r llefydd parcio hyn sydd wedi'u gorchuddio ag aur, mae'n rhaid. Er ein bod yn sylweddoli mai cyfrifoldeb awdurdodau lleol yw ffioedd parcio, mae yna lawer o ffyrdd y gall Llywodraeth Cymru eu defnyddio i - wel, gadewch i ni ei roi mor ysgafn â phosibl - i annog yr awdurdodau hynny i adolygu eu polisïau parcio. Rwy'n annog Llywodraeth Cymru i edrych eto ar yr hyn y gall ei wneud i gael gwared ar y malltod hwn ar fusnesau'r stryd fawr. Diolch.
English: Thank you very much, and I call on the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government, Mark Drakeford.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, a galwaf ar Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros Gyllid a Llywodraeth Leol, Mark Drakeford.
English: I'm grateful to you for taking an intervention. Obviously it's been touched on in the debate - business rates and the valuation of property are a longstanding tax system in this country. Therefore, by your comments, do you believe that any reform of that system would rely on a property base to it, rather than maybe a turnover tax system or some form of recognition of the internet? Because you're alluding to the fact that maybe any reform would be property based in its foundation.
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar i chi am dderbyn ymyriad. Yn amlwg mae wedi'i grybwyll yn y ddadl - mae ardrethi busnes a phrisio eiddo yn system dreth hirsefydlog yn y wlad hon. Felly, yn eich sylwadau, a ydych yn credu y byddai unrhyw ddiwygio ar y system honno yn dibynnu ar fod yn seiliedig ar eiddo, yn hytrach na system dreth drosiant efallai neu ryw fath o gydnabyddiaeth o'r rhyngrwyd? Oherwydd rydych yn cyfeirio at y ffaith efallai y byddai unrhyw ddiwygio'n seiliedig ar eiddo yn ei hanfod.
English: Thank you very much. I call on Nick Ramsay to reply to the debate - Nick.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Galwaf ar Nick Ramsay i ymateb i'r ddadl - Nick.
English: Thank you very much. The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [Objection.] Thank you. Therefore, we defer the voting under this item until voting time.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Y cynnig yw derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [Gwrthwynebiad.] Diolch yn fawr. Felly, gohiriwn y pleidleisio o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. I move the motion and ask for support for the motion tabled in Rhun ap Iorwerth's name. At a time of austerity, when public services are being slashed to the bone, youth and play centres are being closed, leisure centres are being privatised in Cardiff, it's not surprising that the public is outraged by the wages being earned by a new Labour elite in the public sector - many people being paid in excess of £100,000 a year. Plaid Cymru is using this debate today to try to tackle runaway senior management salaries and deliver fair pay in the public sector. Local authorities should be the benchmark of fair and consistent pay, but the inconsistency within local government over pay ratios remains alarming and unjust. [Interruption.] Not for the moment. Plaid Cymru is already leading by example. The median average salary for chief executives running Plaid Cymru councils is nearly £20,000 less than those running Labour councils, and that figure includes the highest chief executive salary in Wales, which was set by a Labour council before Plaid took office.
Welsh: Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Rwy'n cynnig y cynnig ac yn gofyn am gefnogaeth i'r cynnig a gyflwynwyd yn enw Rhun ap Iorwerth. Ar adeg o galedi, pan fo gwasanaethau cyhoeddus yn cael eu torri at yr asgwrn, canolfannau ieuenctid a chanolfannau chwarae yn cael eu cau, a chanolfannau hamdden yn cael eu preifateiddio yng Nghaerdydd, nid yw'n syndod fod y cyhoedd wedi'u cythruddo gan y cyflogau sy'n cael eu hennill gan elît newydd Llafur yn y sector cyhoeddus - gyda llawer o bobl yn cael cyflogau o dros £100,000 y flwyddyn. Mae Plaid Cymru yn defnyddio'r ddadl hon heddiw er mwyn ceisio mynd i'r afael â chyflogau gormodol uwch reolwyr a sicrhau cyflogau teg yn y sector cyhoeddus. Dylai awdurdodau lleol fod yn feincnod ar gyfer cyflogau teg a chyson, ond mae'r anghysondeb o fewn llywodraeth leol mewn perthynas â chymarebau cyflog yn parhau i fod yn frawychus ac yn anghyfiawn. [Torri ar draws.] Nid ar hyn o bryd. Mae Plaid Cymru eisoes yn arwain drwy esiampl. Mae canolrif cyfartalog cyflogau prif weithredwyr sy'n rhedeg cynghorau Plaid Cymru bron £20,000 yn is na'r rhai sy'n rhedeg cynghorau Llafur, ac mae'r ffigur hwnnw'n cynnwys y cyflog uchaf i brif weithredwr yng Nghymru, a osodwyd gan gyngor Llafur cyn i Blaid Cymru ddod i rym.
English: On a point of order, Chair. I'm new to this place, so I don't know what the rules are, but is it in order for a Minister of the Welsh Government to heckle from a sedentary position a backbench Member who is trying to be heard? Could you rule on that?
Welsh: Ar bwynt o drefn, Gadeirydd. Rwy'n newydd i'r lle hwn, felly nid wyf yn gwybod beth yw'r rheolau, ond a yw'n briodol i Weinidog yn Llywodraeth Cymru heclo ar ei eistedd Aelod o'r meinciau cefn sy'n ceisio cael eu clywed? A allech ddyfarnu ar hynny?
English: We always try and ensure that anyone who wishes to make an intervention does it from a standing position, but we do invite lively debate here as well. I just hope that nobody here oversteps the mark in future.
Welsh: Rydym bob amser yn ceisio sicrhau bod unrhyw un sy'n dymuno ymyrryd yn gwneud hynny ar ei draed, ond rydym yn gwahodd trafodaeth fywiog yma hefyd. Rwy'n gobeithio na fydd neb yma yn mynd dros ben llestri yn y dyfodol.
English: I'll willingly give way to the Minister, who once upon a time had three jobs -
Welsh: Rwy'n barod i ildio i'r Gweinidog, a oedd â thair swydd ar un adeg -
English: You won't give way to me; I've given my council salary back.
Welsh: Nid ydych yn ildio i mi; rwyf wedi rhoi fy nghyflog cyngor yn ôl.
English: [Continues.] - whilst being an Assembly Member. Would you like to speak, Minister? You've got enough to say shouting. No? Okay, fine.
Welsh: [Yn parhau.] - tra oedd yn Aelod o'r Cynulliad. A hoffech siarad, Weinidog? Mae gennych ddigon i'w ddweud wrth weiddi. Na? O'r gorau, iawn.
English: It really would be fantastic to see the wages of top - [Interruption.]
Welsh: Byddai'n wirioneddol wych gweld cyflogau'r uwch - [Torri ar draws.]
English: Can we please have no more interventions from a seated position? Thank you.
Welsh: A gawn ni beidio â chael rhagor o ymyriadau ar eich eistedd? Diolch.
English: I think, colleagues, the way that Government Ministers behave sometimes is shameful - [Interruption.]
Welsh: Rwy'n meddwl, gyd-Aelodau, fod y ffordd y mae Gweinidogion y Llywodraeth yn ymddwyn weithiau'n gywilyddus - [Torri ar draws.]
English: Not from a sitting position.
Welsh: Nid ar eich eistedd.
English: [Continues.] - and demeaning to this institution. [Interruption.]
Welsh: [Yn parhau.] - ac yn diraddio'r sefydliad hwn. [Torri ar draws.]
English: Could the Member please continue with his contribution? Thank you.
Welsh: A wnaiff yr Aelod barhau â'i gyfraniad? Diolch.
English: I'll make progress, because I think it would be fantastic that the top earners and lowest earners in the public sector - if their salaries were linked. In that way, Nick Bennett and others who give themselves pay rises would see the lowest-paid people in the organisation increase their pay also. If there was a pay cut at the bottom, there would also be a pay cut at the top. Now, I would urge this Assembly and the Government to support Plaid Cymru's motion and consider, in future, introducing a fair pay Act. Diolch yn fawr. Thank you.
Welsh: Fe wnaf barhau, gan fy mod yn credu y byddai'n wych pe bai'r rhai sy'n ennill y cyflogau uchaf a'r cyflogau isaf yn y sector cyhoeddus - pe bai eu cyflogau wedi'u cysylltu. Yn y ffordd honno, byddai Nick Bennett ac eraill sy'n rhoi codiadau cyflog i'w hunain yn gweld cyflogau'r bobl ar y cyflogau isaf yn y sefydliad yn cynyddu hefyd. Pe bai toriad cyflog ar y gwaelod, byddai toriad cyflog ar y brig hefyd. Nawr, byddwn yn annog y Cynulliad hwn a'r Llywodraeth i gefnogi cynnig Plaid Cymru ac ystyried cyflwyno Deddf cyflogau teg yn y dyfodol. Diolch yn fawr. Diolch.
English: I have selected the six amendments to the motion. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendment 2 will be deselected. If amendment 3 is agreed, amendment 4 will be deselected. I call on the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and Local Government to formally move amendments 1 and 2 tabled in the name of Jane Hutt.
Welsh: Rwyf wedi dethol y chwe gwelliant i'r cynnig. Os derbynnir gwelliant 1, bydd gwelliant 2 yn cael ei ddad-ddethol. Os derbynnir gwelliant 3, bydd gwelliant 4 yn cael ei ddad-ddethol. Galwaf ar Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros Gyllid a Llywodraeth Leol i gynnig gwelliannau 1 a 2 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Jane Hutt yn ffurfiol.
English: Thank you. I call on Janet Finch-Saunders to move amendments 2, 3, 5 and 6 tabled in the name of Paul Davies.
Welsh: Diolch. Galwaf ar Janet Finch-Saunders i gynnig gwelliannau 2, 3, 5 a 6 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies.
English: Thank you, deputy - . [Assembly Members: 'Chair.'] Chair. [Laughter.] I would like to move the amendments tabled in the name of Paul Davies AM. Those amendments state quite clearly, 'Delete point 2, and replace with: 'Recognises Welsh Conservative proposals, which called on the Welsh Government to place a binding limit on senior office holder salaries to ensure that local authorities enforce effective caps on pay.' Amendment 3: 'Delete Point 3 and replace with: 'Calls on the Welsh Government to consider legislation introduced in other Commonwealth jurisdictions, which has enshrined the responsibilities of local government chief executives in law, such as Section 94 A of the Australian Local Government Act 1989.' Now, we welcome this debate from Plaid Cymru, but with some bemusement, really, because many will remember the local democracy (Wales) Act in 2003, to which amendment 2 refers. At Stage 2, it was the Welsh Conservatives who, with the first group of amendments, were calling for the consent of Welsh Ministers to be given prior to a local authority paying a salary to any officer higher than the recommendation of Independent Remuneration Panel for Wales. This was opposed quite clearly by Plaid Cymru, as well as Labour and the Liberal Democrats. Then, at Stage 3, we tabled an amendment calling for the panel to recommend a maximum amount to be paid to any senior officer by a local authority. Again, this was opposed by Plaid Cymru, Labour and the Liberal Democrats, so it's interesting -
Welsh: Diolch i chi, Ddirprwy - . [Aelodau'r Cynulliad: 'Cadeirydd'] Gadeirydd. [Chwerthin.] Hoffwn gynnig y gwelliannau a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies AC. Mae'r gwelliannau hynny'n datgan yn glir iawn, 'Dileu pwynt 2, a rhoi yn ei le: 'Yn cydnabod cynigion y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, a oedd yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i osod cyfyngiad gorfodol ar gyflogau deiliaid swyddi uwch i sicrhau bod awdurdodau lleol yn gorfodi uchafswm effeithiol ar gyflogau.' Gwelliant 3: 'Dileu Pwynt 3 a rhoi yn ei le: 'Yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i ystyried deddfwriaeth a gyflwynwyd yn awdurdodaethau eraill y Gymanwlad, sydd wedi corffori cyfrifoldebau prif weithredwyr llywodraeth leol yn y gyfraith, fel Adran 94 A o Ddeddf Llywodraeth Leol Awstralia 1989.' Nawr, rydym yn croesawu'r ddadl hon gan Blaid Cymru, ond gyda pheth dryswch, mewn gwirionedd, gan y bydd llawer yn cofio Deddf democratiaeth leol (Cymru) yn 2003 y mae gwelliant 2 yn cyfeirio ati. Yng Nghyfnod 2, y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig, gyda'r grŵp cyntaf o welliannau, a oedd yn galw am gydsyniad Gweinidogion Cymru i gael ei roi cyn i awdurdod lleol dalu cyflog i unrhyw swyddog a oedd yn uwch nag argymhelliad Panel Annibynnol Cymru ar Gydnabyddiaeth Ariannol. Cafodd hyn ei wrthwynebu yn eithaf clir gan Blaid Cymru, yn ogystal â'r Blaid Lafur a'r Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol. Yna, yng Nghyfnod 3, cyflwynasom welliant yn galw ar y panel i argymell uchafswm i'w dalu i unrhyw uwch swyddog gan awdurdod lleol. Unwaith eto, gwrthwynebwyd hyn gan Blaid Cymru, y Blaid Lafur a'r Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol, felly mae'n ddiddorol -
English: Yes, okay.
Welsh: Gwnaf, iawn.
English: Well, there used to be the joint negotiating committee, which set the limit. The Conservative Government in Westminster did away with it. Do you regret that?
Welsh: Wel, roedd yna gydbwyllgor negodi'n arfer bodoli a oedd yn gosod y cyfyngiad. Cafodd ei ddiddymu gan y Llywodraeth Geidwadol yn San Steffan. A ydych yn gresynu hynny?
English: Can I say I was very much looking forward to speaking in this debate? As a long-standing trade union official who was dealing with these issues over many years in the public sector, I very much welcomed the debate coming forward. So, I do think it's a shame that the Member had to stoop to the kinds of comments that he was making - the cheap kind of political jibes. Because we all know that this is not just a problem for Labour councils, this is a problem across the board, including Plaid-controlled Gwynedd and Ceredigion and other areas, which all have chief executives earning in excess of £100,000. The Member himself has two jobs where he pulls in in excess of £100,000 a year. [Interruption.] So, I really don't think that was helpful. [Interruption.] I really don't think that was helpful, Chair, because I can't imagine anyone would disagree that the pay gap between - [Interruption.]
Welsh: A gaf fi ddweud fy mod yn edrych ymlaen yn fawr at siarad yn y ddadl hon? Fel swyddog undeb llafur hirsefydlog a oedd yn ymdrin â'r materion hyn dros nifer o flynyddoedd yn y sector cyhoeddus, rwy'n croesawu'r ddadl sy'n cael ei chyflwyno yn fawr iawn. Felly, rwy'n meddwl ei bod yn drueni fod yr Aelod wedi gorfod iselhau ei hun i'r mathau o sylwadau a wnaeth - y math gwael o wawd gwleidyddol. Oherwydd rydym i gyd yn gwybod nad problem i gynghorau Llafur yn unig yw hon, mae'n broblem gyffredinol, gan gynnwys Gwynedd a Cheredigion dan reolaeth Plaid Cymru ac ardaloedd eraill sydd â phrif weithredwyr sy'n ennill mwy na £100,000. Mae gan yr Aelod ei hun ddwy swydd lle y mae'n cael mwy na £100,000 y flwyddyn. [Torri ar draws.] Felly, nid wyf yn meddwl bod hynny o gymorth o gwbl. [Torri ar draws.] Nid wyf yn meddwl bod hynny o gymorth, Gadeirydd, oherwydd ni allaf ddychmygu y byddai neb yn anghytuno bod y bwlch cyflog rhwng - [Torri ar draws.]
English: No, I'm not taking an intervention. I can't imagine that anyone would disagree -
Welsh: Na, nid wyf yn cymryd ymyriad. Ni allaf ddychmygu y byddai unrhyw un yn anghytuno -
English: Sit down. Sit down, please.
Welsh: Eisteddwch. Eisteddwch, os gwelwch yn dda.
English: [Continues.] - that the gap between the highest-paid officers and the lowest-paid workers in local authorities and in other public services in Wales is regrettable, and that is the issue that we should be addressing here today. Unfortunately, the motion only focuses on one aspect of that pay differential, and that is the relationship to the pay of senior and chief officers. There's certainly a key issue in looking at any comparison, but surely of equal relevance here is tackling the issue of low pay amongst some of those workers, more often than not largely part-time women employees -
Welsh: [Yn parhau.] - fod y bwlch rhwng y swyddogion a gaiff y cyflogau uchaf a'r gweithwyr a gaiff y cyflogau isaf mewn awdurdodau lleol ac mewn gwasanaethau cyhoeddus eraill yng Nghymru yn destun gofid, a dyna'r mater y dylem fod yn rhoi sylw iddo yma heddiw. Yn anffodus, nid yw'r cynnig ond yn canolbwyntio ar un agwedd ar y gwahaniaeth cyflog hwnnw, sef y berthynas â chyflog uwch swyddogion a phrif weithredwyr. Yn sicr mae yna broblem allweddol wrth edrych ar unrhyw gymhariaeth, ond yn sicr mae mynd i'r afael â chyflogau isel ymhlith rhai o'r gweithwyr hynny, menywod rhan-amser yn bennaf yn amlach na pheidio, yr un mor berthnasol yma -
English: Chair, a statement has been made about me that was factually incorrect. I ask the Member to be called to order, please.
Welsh: Gadeirydd, gwnaed datganiad amdanaf a oedd yn ffeithiol anghywir. Gofynnaf i'r Aelod gael ei alw i drefn, os gwelwch yn dda.
English: The Member will have the opportunity to address this when he sums up at the end of the debate.
Welsh: Bydd cyfle i'r Aelod roi sylw i hyn wrth iddo grynhoi ar ddiwedd y ddadl.
English: Thank you, Chair. I'm sure many of you will remember the issue that arose in Caerphilly council in December 2012, when it came to light that some chief officers had been party to drafting and taking to a council committee a report recommending pay rises of more than 20 per cent for the chief executive and other chief officers. If you were to talk to the hundreds of trade union members at Caerphilly who staged a lunch-time walk out, of course they were angry at the scale of the proposed awards. But what really outraged them was that this had come on the back of a three-year pay freeze for all other local authority staff. It was pleasing that the trade union campaign there did lead to an early settlement of that dispute. They were able to negotiate an agreement, which led to the removal of a substantial part of those pay awards, but this was only possible through the willingness of the Labour group in Caerphilly council to engage constructively with the trade unions, facilitated by the then chair of Caerphilly's policy and resources scrutiny committee, who now sits in this Chamber as the Assembly Member for Caerphilly. That is the reality of what transpired, and not the distorted version that was given by Caerphilly Plaid in statements to the media today.
Welsh: Diolch, Gadeirydd. Rwy'n siŵr y bydd llawer ohonoch yn cofio'r mater a gododd yng nghyngor Caerffili ym mis Rhagfyr 2012, pan ddaeth yn amlwg fod prif swyddogion wedi bod yn rhan o'r gwaith o ddrafftio adroddiad a gyflwynwyd gerbron pwyllgor y cyngor yn argymell codiadau cyflog o fwy nag 20 y cant ar gyfer y prif weithredwr a phrif swyddogion eraill. Pe baech yn siarad â'r cannoedd o aelodau undeb llafur yng Nghaerffili a gynhaliodd streic hanner diwrnod, wrth gwrs eu bod yn ddig ynglŷn â maint y taliadau a argymhellwyd. Ond yr hyn a'u cynddeiriogodd mewn gwirionedd oedd bod hyn yn dilyn rhewi cyflogau holl staff arall yr awdurdod lleol am dair blynedd. Roedd hi'n dda bod ymgyrch yr undebau llafur yno wedi arwain at setliad cynnar yn yr anghydfod hwnnw. Roeddent yn gallu negodi cytundeb, a arweiniodd at gael gwared ar ran sylweddol o'r taliadau cyflog hynny, ond nid oedd hyn ond yn bosibl drwy barodrwydd y grŵp Llafur yng nghyngor Caerffili i ymgysylltu'n adeiladol â'r undebau llafur, proses a hwyluswyd gan gadeirydd pwyllgor craffu polisi ac adnoddau Caerffili ar y pryd, sydd erbyn hyn yn eistedd yn y Siambr hon fel yr Aelod Cynulliad dros Gaerffili. Dyna realiti'r hyn a ddigwyddodd, ac nid y fersiwn lurguniedig a roddwyd gan Blaid Cymru Caerffili mewn datganiadau i'r cyfryngau heddiw.
English: Thank you for taking the intervention. I notice that Neil McEvoy didn't want to, and I can give you a corrected statement. He is taking a £13,000 councillor's salary, the same councillor's salary that I've given back. So, he could start a saving today of £13,000 if he'd be willing to give it back. What I also had regarding your statement is that the deputy leader of Plaid in Caerphilly did know about the decision when it was made. He was in the meeting, yet he chose not to raise it publicly for three months, and only commented when it was reported in the press, which was when I found out. So, since then, Caerphilly Plaid have shamelessly capitalised on -
Welsh: Diolch i chi am gymryd yr ymyriad. Sylwaf nad oedd Neil McEvoy eisiau gwneud, a gallaf roi datganiad wedi'i gywiro i chi. Mae'n cymryd cyflog cynghorydd o £13,000, yr un cyflog ag a ddychwelwyd gennyf fi. Felly, gallai ddechrau arbed £13,000 heddiw pe bai'n barod i'w ddychwelyd. Yr hyn a oedd gennyf hefyd mewn perthynas â'ch datganiad yw bod dirprwy arweinydd Plaid Cymru yng Nghaerffili yn gwybod am y penderfyniad pan gafodd ei wneud. Roedd yn y cyfarfod, ac eto dewisodd beidio â'i ddwyn i sylw cyhoeddus am dri mis, ac ni ddywedodd ddim hyd nes y cafwyd adroddiad am y mater yn y wasg, sef pan gefais i wybod. Felly, ers hynny, mae Plaid Cymru Caerffili wedi elwa'n warthus ar -
English: It's a bit long for an intervention, Mr David.
Welsh: Mae hyn braidd yn hir i fod yn ymyriad, Mr David.
English: [continues.] - but haven't acknowledged their role in the whole process.
Welsh: [Yn parhau.] - ond nid ydynt wedi cydnabod eu rôl yn y broses.