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English: Well, thank you for that question, of course. The process that we have this time, like last time, is one where we table a draft budget before the Assembly in October and, at the end of the month, the UK budget will be tabled, on 29 October, and that cuts across our process in a way. I remember that, at this committee last year, we discussed how we could deal with that. Is it preferable just to retain what we have, where the Assembly committees have the optimum time in order to scrutinise the draft budget, or is it preferable to do it as they do it in Scotland, where they wait until the Chancellor has laid his budget and then the process starts immediately after that, when they are in possession of all the facts, as it were? But, of course, that cuts down on the time available - they only have a very few weeks to do the scrutiny work. So, last time, having discussed this with the committee, the committee's advice to me was to adhere to our current process and just deal with the uncertainty that that obviously creates.
Welsh: Wel, diolch am y cwestiwn, wrth gwrs. Y proses sydd gyda ni, y tro yma, fel y tro diwethaf, yw un ble rŷm ni'n rhoi cyllideb ddrafft o flaen y Cynulliad ym mis Hydref a, diwedd y mis, bydd cyllideb y Deyrnas Unedig i lawr ar 29 Hydref, ac mae hynny'n torri ar draws ein proses ni. Rydw i'n cofio, yma yn y pwyllgor y flwyddyn ddiwethaf, roeddem ni'n trafod sut rŷm ni'n gallu delio â hynny. A ydy'n well jest cadw beth sydd gyda ni, ble mae pwyllgorau'r Cynulliad yn cael yr amser ehangaf i graffu ar y gyllideb ddrafft, neu a ydy'n well i'w wneud e fel maen nhw'n ei wneud e yn yr Alban, lle maen nhw'n aros nes bod y Canghellor yn rhoi ei gyllid ef i lawr ac maen nhw'n dechrau'r broses ar ôl hynny, pan fydd popeth gyda nhw? Ond, wrth gwrs, mae hynny'n torri i lawr - dim ond rai wythnosau sydd gyda nhw i wneud y gwaith craffu. So, y tro olaf, ar ôl ei drafod e gyda'r pwyllgor, cyngor y pwyllgor i mi oedd cadw beth sydd gyda ni ar hyn o bryd a jest delio â'r ansicrwydd mae hynny'n ei greu.
English: Could I thank you, Cabinet Secretary, and your officials for your evidence this morning and for putting us on course as we start to scrutinise the budget before us? So, thank you very much. A copy of the transcript will be shared with you for you to ensure that it is factually accurate. So, thank you very much.
Welsh: A gaf fi ddiolch ichi, Ysgrifennydd Cabinet, a'ch swyddogion am eich tystiolaeth inni'r bore yma ac am ein rhoi ni ar ben y ffordd wrth inni ddechrau'r broses o graffu ar y gyllideb sydd ger ein bron ni? Diolch o galon ichi. Mi fydd copi o'r trawsgrifiad hefyd yn cael ei rhannu â chi wrth gwrs, ichi gael sicrhau ei fod yn gywir. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
English: The committee will now move to private session. Could I propose. in accordance with Standing Order 17.42 (vi), that the committee intends to undertake the rest of the meeting in private? Are Members content? Okay. Thank you very much. We'll move to private session. Thank you.
Welsh: Mi symuda'r pwyllgor nawr i mewn i sesiwn breifat. Felly a gaf fi gynnig yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42 (vi) fod y pwyllgor yn penderfynu cynnal gweddill y cyfarfod yn breifat? A ydy Aelodau'n fodlon â hynny? Iawn. Diolch yn fawr. Mi symudwn ni i sesiwn breifat. Diolch.
English: Good morning everyone and welcome to the latest meeting of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee here in the National Assembly for Wales. Under item 1, introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest, I can announce that we have received apologies from Rhun ap Iorwerth and there is no substitute today. Dawn Bowden is on her way but has been caught up in traffic. I think as a committee we should formally thank Jayne Bryant for her contribution over the last few years, and also say that it's a pleasure to welcome Rhianon Passmore as a member of this committee in her place. So, welcome, Rhianon. Moving on, therefore, to the rest of the meeting, naturally, you'll know that this meeting is held bilingually. You can use the headphones to hear the interpretation on channel 1, or to hear contributions in the original language amplified on channel 2. The microphones work automatically, so you do not need to touch them. If you hear the fire alarm, we should follow the instructions of the ushers.
Welsh: Bore da i chi i gyd a chroeso i gyfarfod diweddaraf y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yng Nghynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru. O dan eitem 1, dirprwyon a datgan buddiannau ac ati, fe allaf i gyhoeddi ein bod wedi derbyn ymddiheuriadau oddi wrth Rhun ap Iorwerth ac nid oes neb yn dirprwyo. Mae Dawn Bowden ar ei ffordd ond wedi cael ei dal ar yr hewl. Rwy'n credu fel pwyllgor y dylem ni fod yn diolch yn ffurfiol i Jayne Bryant am ei chyfraniad dros y blynyddoedd diwethaf, ac mae hefyd yn bleser croesawu Rhianon Passmore fel aelod o'r pwyllgor yma yn ei lle hi. Felly, croeso, Rhianon. Symudwn ni ymlaen felly i feddwl am weddill y cyfarfod. Yn naturiol, mae pobl yn gwybod bod y cyfarfod yma'n ddwyieithog. Gellir defnyddio clustffonau i glywed cyfieithu ar y pryd o'r Gymraeg i'r Saesneg ar sianel 1, neu i glywed cyfraniadau yn yr iaith wreiddiol yn well ar sianel 2. Mae'r microffonau yn gweithio yn awtomatig, felly nid oes yn rhaid i neb eu cyffwrdd nhw. Os byddwch chi'n clywed larwm tân fe ddylem ni ddilyn cyfarwyddiadau'r tywyswyr.
English: So, with that much of a preface, we move on to item 2, which is the Autism (Wales) Bill. This is an evidence session with the National Autistic Society Cymru and Autistic Spectrum Connections Cymru. So, I would like to welcome Jane Harris, who is the director of external affairs and social change, National Autistic Society Cymru; Meleri Thomas, who is the external affairs manager for the National Autistic Society Wales; and Gareth Morgan, who is the project manager, Autism Spectrum Connections Cymru. Welcome to you all and thank you for your written evidence that you submitted beforehand. We have received quite a lot of evidence and we've been going through it as Members as part of this journey in dealing with the autism Bill. So, as usual, we'll go straight into questions, because time is a little tight this morning. So, Angela Burns will start.
Welsh: Felly, gyda cymaint â hynny o ragymadrodd, fe symudwn ni ymlaen at eitem 2, Bil Awtistiaeth (Cymru). Mae hon yn sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Chymdeithas Genedlaethol Awtistiaeth Cymru ac Autistic Spectrum Connections Cymru. Felly, i'r perwyl yna rydw i'n falch iawn o groesawu i'r bwrdd Jane Harris, cyfarwyddwr materion allanol a newid cymdeithasol, Cymdeithas Genedlaethol Awtistiaeth Cymru; Meleri Thomas, rheolwr cysylltiadau allanol Cymru, Cymdeithas Genedlaethol Awtistiaeth Cymru; a hefyd Gareth Morgan, rheolwr prosiectau, Autism Spectrum Connections Cymru. Croeso i chi i gyd a diolch am y dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig rydym ni wedi ei derbyn ymlaen llaw. Mae yna gryn dipyn o dystiolaeth rydym ni wedi bod yn mynd drwyddi fel Aelodau fel rhan o'r siwrnai yma rŵan i ymdrin â'r Bil awtistiaeth. Felly, yn ôl ei harfer, fe awn ni'n syth mewn i gwestiynu, achos mae amser ychydig bach yn brin y bore yma. Felly, Angela Burns sy'n mynd i ddechrau.
English: Thank you very much to you all, and I also thank you for your written evidence submitted beforehand. Just to confirm, you will receive a transcript of these discussions to ensure that they are factually accurate. But with that much of a summary, I thank you for your attendance. We will have a five-minute break now, before the next witness comes in. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn i chi i gyd, a hefyd diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich tystiolaeth ysgrifenedig ymlaen llaw. Hefyd, i gadarnhau, byddwch chi'n derbyn trawsgrifiad ffurfiol o'r trafodaethau yma i allu cadarnhau eu bod nhw'n ffeithiol gywir. Ond gyda hynny, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich presenoldeb. Gallaf gyhoeddi i'm cyd-Aelodau y cawn ni doriad o bum munud rŵan er mwyn i'r tyst nesaf ddod i mewn. Diolch yn fawr.
English: Welcome back, everyone, to the latest session of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee here in the National Assembly for Wales. We've now reached item 3, which is a continuation of the discussion of the Autism (Wales) Bill. The next evidence session is with Dr Duncan Holtom. We have received written evidence beforehand. It's a pleasure to welcome Dr Duncan Holtom, who is the head of research at People and Work. You will be aware that the Assembly operates bilingually and also that the microphones work automatically and so you don't need to touch them. Therefore, as is usual in this committee, we will go straight into questions. We have around three quarters of an hour. So, Julie Morgan will start.
Welsh: Croeso yn ôl, bawb, i sesiwn ddiweddaraf y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yng Nghynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru. Rydym ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 3 rŵan, ac mae trafodaeth ar Fil Awtistiaeth (Cymru) yn parhau. Nesaf y mae'r sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dr Duncan Holtom. Rydym ni wedi derbyn tystiolaeth ysgrifenedig ymlaen llaw. Mae'n bleser croesawu Dr Duncan Holtom yma, sef pennaeth ymchwil Pobl a Gwaith. Mi fyddwch chi'n ymwybodol bod y Cynulliad yn rhedeg yn ddwyieithog a hefyd fod y meicroffonau yn gweithio'n awtomatig - nid oes eisiau cyffwrdd â nhw, felly. Wedyn, fel sy'n draddodiadol yn y pwyllgor yma, rydym ni'n mynd yn syth i mewn i gwestiynau, ac mae gyda ni ryw dri chwarter awr. So, Julie Morgan sy'n mynd i ddechrau.
English: Great, thank you. Thank you very much for your presence this morning and thanks for responding to our questions and providing this very factual information. Of course, matters of opinion are up to us, aren't they? But thank you for the facts. I will confirm that you will receive a transcript of the meeting to check for factual accuracy. With that much of a summary, thank you very much for your presence. To my fellow Members, we will now break for five minutes as we prepare for the next witnesses. Thank you.
Welsh: Grêt, diolch yn fawr. Diolch yn fawr am eich presenoldeb y bore yma a diolch yn fawr am ateb y cwestiynau a darparu'r wybodaeth ffeithiol. Wrth gwrs, mae materion o opiniwn lan i ni, onid ydyn nhw? Ond diolch am y ffeithiau. Fe wnaf i gadarnhau y byddwch chi'n derbyn trawsgrifiad o'r cyfarfod yma hefyd i allu cadarnhau i chi ei fod yn ffeithiol gywir. Gyda hynny o ragymadrodd, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am eich presenoldeb. I'm cyd-Aelodau, fe wnawn ni dorri nawr am bum munud i gael paratoi gogyfer y tystion nesaf. Diolch yn fawr.
English: Welcome back to the latest session of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee here in the National Assembly for Wales. We have reached item 4 on the agenda this morning, and it's a continuation of our discussions and our scrutiny into the Autism (Wales) Bill. The latest evidence session is with Dr Dawn Wimpory and Dr Elin Walker-Jones. Thank you for your written evidence submitted beforehand. So, if I may introduce you both: first of all, Dr Dawn Wimpory, who is a consultant clinical psychologist, the lead for autism spectrum disorder in Betsi Cadwaladr University Local Health Board and a lecturer at Bangor University - welcome to you - and also Dr Elin Walker-Jones, who is a consultant clinical psychologist at Betsi Cadwaladr University Local Health Board. Welcome to you both. The microphones work automatically; you do not need to touch anything. Members have read all reports beforehand in detail, so, as usual in this committee, we'll go straight into questions, and the first questions are from Julie Morgan.
Welsh: Croeso nôl i sesiwn ddiweddaraf y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon yma yng Nghynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru. Rydym ni wedi cyrraedd eitem 4 ar yr agenda rŵan y bore yma, ac rydym yn parhau efo'n trafodaethau ni yn craffu i mewn i Fil Awtistiaeth (Cymru). Mae'r sesiwn dystiolaeth ddiweddaraf yma gyda Dr Dawn Wimpory a Dr Elin Walker-Jones. Diolch i chi am eich tystiolaeth ysgrifenedig ymlaen llaw. Felly, os caf i gyflwyno'r ddwy ohonoch chi: yn gyntaf, Dr Dawn Wimpory, seicolegydd clinigol ymgynghorol, arweinydd anhwylder sbectrwm awtistiaeth Bwrdd Iechyd Lleol Prifysgol Betsi Cadwaladr a darlithydd ym Mhrifysgol Bangor - croeso i chi - a hefyd Dr Elin Walker-Jones, seicolegydd clinigol ymgynghorol Bwrdd Iechyd Lleol Prifysgol Betsi Cadwaladr. Croeso i'r ddwy ohonoch chi. Bydd y meicroffonau yn gweithio yn awtomatig; nid oes eisiau i chi gyffwrdd â dim byd. Mae'r Aelodau wedi darllen yr adroddiadau i gyd mewn manylder, felly, fel sy'n draddodiadol yn y pwyllgor yma, rydym ni'n mynd yn syth i mewn i gwestiynau, ac mae'r cwestiynau cyntaf dan ofal Julie Morgan.
English: If I could endorse everything that Dawn has already said. I support every word of it.
Welsh: A gaf i ategu pob dim mae Dawn wedi ei ddweud eisoes? Rwy'n hollol gefnogi pob dim.
English: How many years have passed since the strategy? I think it was published in 2008.
Welsh: Faint o flynyddoedd sydd ers y strategaeth - 2008?
English: I hope that makes sense.
Welsh: Gobeithio bod hynny'n gwneud synnwyr.
English: Again, I agree with Dawn's comments. At least by having robust legislation in place, it would mean that there are legal obligations on everyone to provide services, rather than it being reliant on arbitrary decisions. At the moment, the funding for autism isn't ring-fenced within local government, and therefore that funding can be provided to any other areas, because there are so many needs out there. So, in order to ensure that that funding is spent on the needs of people with ASD, then you do need legislation. I have to say that I would like to see more emphasis in the legislation on support services, treatment and so on, rather than this huge emphasis on diagnosis. I've mentioned in my evidence the development of resilience skills, and that's something that may be for consideration across the population. That may not be for this committee today, but it's certainly something that needs to be considered for the future.
Welsh: Eto, rwy'n cytuno â beth mae Dawn yn ei ddweud. O leiaf drwy gael deddfwriaeth gadarn, mae'n golygu bod yna oblygiadau cyfreithiol ar bawb i ddarparu gwasanaethau, yn hytrach na bod yn ddibynnol ar fympwy. Ar hyn o bryd, nid ydy'r arian ar gyfer awtistiaeth wedi ei ring-fence- o mewn llywodraeth leol, ac felly mae modd rhoi'r pres i unrhyw beth arall, achos mae yna gymaint o anghenion mas yna. So, er mwyn sicrhau bod y pres yn cael ei wario ar anghenion pobl ag awtistiaeth, mae angen deddfwriaeth. Mae'n rhaid i fi ddweud, buaswn i'n licio gweld mwy o bwyslais yn y ddeddfwriaeth ar wasanaethau cefnogaeth, triniaeth ac yn y blaen, yn hytrach na'r pwyslais aruthrol yma ar ddiagnosis. Rwyf wedi sôn yn fy adborth ynglŷn â datblygu sgiliau gwytnwch ac efallai bod hynny'n rhywbeth i'w ystyried ar draws y boblogaeth. Efallai nad yw hynny o ran remit y pwyllgor yma heddiw, ond, yn sicr, mae e'n rhywbeth i'w ystyried yn y dyfodol.
English: But the NICE guidance says that you need a paediatrician or a child psychiatrist to be part of the core team for - .
Welsh: Ond mae canllawiau NICE yn dweud bod angen pediatrydd neu seiciatrydd plant i fod yn un o'r tîm creiddiol ar gyfer - .
English: It's hugely important. The proposed legislation also mentions - .
Welsh: Mae'n bwysig iawn. Mae'r ddeddfwriaeth arfaethedig hefyd yn sôn am - .
English: The proposed legislation does name the various professions that need to be part of that multidisciplinary team. Perhaps it is overly specific, in all honesty. I'm not sure what your thoughts are on that, Dawn. But again, I agree; the NICE guidelines state that it's right to have that 13-week period between the referral and the first appointment. That's what it says; it's not down to diagnosis, and that's important. But we must also bear in mind - . Okay, let's give a scenario: a mother turns up with a child at the GP surgery and says, 'I'm really struggling with this child; his behaviour is difficult', and so on and so forth. And what's the GP going to do? Well, he'll be referred for an autism assessment, because that's simply what is available. There is a care pathway in terms of having an autism assessment, and perhaps there aren't any behavioural support services available to the same extent as are available for autism. So, it is seen as a golden ticket, and that means that it clogs up the system. You need a variety of services, not just an assessment for autism. I'm sorry to hear that a child has waited for seven years.
Welsh: Mae'r ddeddfwriaeth arfaethedig yn enwi'r gwahanol broffesiynau sydd angen bod yn rhan o'r tîm amlddisgyblaethol. Efallai ei bod yn or-benodol, a dweud y gwir. Nid ydw i'n siŵr beth wyt ti'n meddwl am hynny, Dawn. Ac eto, rwy'n cytuno; mae canllawiau NICE yn dweud bod angen 13, ei bod yn iawn cael 13 wythnos o amser rhwng y cyfeirio â'r appointment cyntaf. Dyna beth mae'n ei ddweud, nid diagnosis, ac mae hynny'n bwysig. Ond mae eisiau cofio hefyd - . Ocê, senario: mae mam yn troi i fyny gyda phlentyn gyda'r GP ac mae'n dweud, 'Rwy'n rili stryglo gyda'r plentyn yma; mae ei ymddygiad e yn anodd', ac yn y blaen. A beth mae'r GP yn mynd i'w wneud? Caiff e ei gyfeirio ar gyfer asesiad awtistiaeth, achos dyna beth sydd ar gael. Mae yna lwybr gofal ynglŷn â chael asesiad ar gyfer awtistiaeth, ac efallai nad oes yna unrhyw fath o wasanaethau cefnogaeth ymddygiad ac yn y blaen i'r un graddau ag sydd ar gael ar gyfer awtistiaeth. So, mae yn cael ei weld fel y tocyn aur, ac mae hynny'n golygu ei bod yn clogio lan y system. Mae eisiau amrywiaeth o wasanaethau, nid dim ond asesiad ar gyfer awtistiaeth. Mae'n ddrwg iawn gyda fi glywed bod plentyn wedi aros am saith mlynedd.
English: Can I add something, please?
Welsh: A gaf i ychwanegu rhywbeth, os gwelwch yn dda?
English: I do also feel that it's important to collect data, and that it is the correct data - we need to ensure it's the correct data. At the moment, we are collecting data on the longest wait, and that doesn't necessarily reflect how long other children are waiting, and what the average number is. Also, we need to emphasise consistency across counties. But, I also noticed that, on the database - and what's being collated in the autism Bill - there's no reference to collecting data on Welsh speakers. I would suggest that that should also be included - that we do need to collect data on languages that are used by either the service user, or by the family, or by the school, in order to ensure that we can plan for those services and to ensure that those people can have those services in the language of their choice.
Welsh: Rwy'n teimlo hefyd ei bod hi'n bwysig casglu data, a bod y data yn gywir - bod eisiau sicrhau y data cywir. Ar hyn o bryd, rŷm ni'n casglu data, er enghraifft, ar longest wait, ac nid yw hynny, o reidrwydd, yn adlewyrchu pa mor hir y mae plant eraill yn aros, a beth yw'r rhif cymedr. Hefyd, mae angen pwysleisio cysondeb ar draws siroedd. Ond, roeddwn hefyd yn sylwi yn y bas data - y stwff sydd yn y Bil awtistiaeth - nad oes yna ddim cyfeiriad at gasglu data ynglŷn â siaradwyr Cymraeg. Mi fuaswn i yn awgrymu bod hynny'n cael ei gynnwys hefyd - bod eisiau casglu data ar ieithoedd sy'n cael eu defnyddio, naill ai gan y defnyddiwr gwasanaeth, neu'r teulu, neu'r ysgol, er mwyn sicrhau bod modd blaengynllunio ar gyfer gwasanaethau a sicrhau bod pobl yn gallu cael gwasanaethau yn yr iaith o'u dewis. Diolch.
English: Thanks for that; it's an important point. We move on now to the last section, which is other neurodevelopmental disorders. Dawn's going to ask these questions.
Welsh: Diolch am hynny; pwynt pwysig. Rŷm ni'n dod rŵan at yr adran olaf, a chyflyrau niwroddatblygiadol eraill. Mae Dawn yn mynd i ofyn cwestiynau ar hyn.
English: Would you like to go first, or shall I?
Welsh: Wyt ti eisiau mynd gyntaf, neu wyt ti eisiau i mi?
English: I'm not speaking out of turn here, am I?
Welsh: Dydw i ddim yn siarad mas o dro nawr, ydw i?
English: Everyone content? No other questions? Great. We have come, therefore -
Welsh: Pawb yn hapus? Dim cwestiynau eraill? Grêt. Rydym ni wedi dod, felly -
English: Thank you very much for summarising the evidence in such an effective way and thank you very much for your presence and also for providing the written evidence beforehand and for responding to the questions in such a way. We've learned a lot. So, thank you very much to you both.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr am gloriannu'r dystiolaeth mewn ffordd mor effeithiol yn y fan yna a diolch yn fawr am eich presenoldeb ac hefyd am ddarparu'r dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig ymlaen llaw ac hefyd am ateb y cwestiynau mewn modd rydym ni wedi dysgu cryn dipyn ohono. Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn i'r ddwy ohonoch chi.
English: To my fellow Members now, I think we will move on to item 5 which is a motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. Is everyone content? Everyone is. Thank you.
Welsh: I'm cyd-Aelodau rŵan, rydw i'n credu yr awn i eitem 5 a chynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42 i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod. Pawb yn gytûn? Pawb yn gytûn. Diolch yn fawr ichi.
English: The first item on the agenda this afternoon's questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Energy, Planning and Rural Affairs, and the first question is from Llyr Gruffydd.
Welsh: Yr eitem gyntaf ar ein hagenda ni'r prynhawn yma yw'r cwestiynau i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros Ynni, Cynlluniuo a Materion Gwledig, ac mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf gan Llyr Gruffydd.
English: Diolch. I continue to press for a permanent solution to this long-standing inequity. I'm extremely disappointed that, following my requests, measures to ensure a fairer distribution of the red meat levy were not included on the face of the UK agriculture Bill at introduction. I've made my views clear there should now be a Government amendment to address this issue.
Welsh: Diolch. Rwy'n parhau i bwyso am ateb parhaol i'r annhegwch hwn sydd wedi bodoli ers tro. Rwy'n hynod o siomedig, yn dilyn fy ngheisiadau, nad oedd mesurau i sicrhau dosbarthiad tecach o'r ardoll cig coch wedi eu cynnwys ar wyneb Bil amaethyddiaeth y DU pan gafodd ei gyflwyno. Rwyf wedi dweud fy marn yn glir fod angen gwelliant gan y Llywodraeth yn awr i fynd i'r afael â'r mater hwn.
English: Well, I share your frustration, because I've been a Member of this Assembly for seven years and I'm sure I've been asking the same question regularly over that period of time. But the agricultural unions are also concerned that changes in farm payments that you're proposing in 'Brexit and our land' are going to lead to less red meat being produced in Wales and, as a result, there will be fewer animals going through Welsh abattoirs, which will mean that less money will come from the levy to promote Welsh meat. As a result, they will be less promotion of that meat. So, you can see that vicious circle that would develop in light of that possibility. So, can I ask what consideration you have given to the impact that 'Brexit and our land' have on meat production in Wales? And what assurance can you give to our producers that the Government will continue to support the red meat industry?
Welsh: Wel, rydw i'n rhannu eich rhwystredigaeth chi, oherwydd rydw i'n Aelod o'r Cynulliad yma ers saith mlynedd ac rydw i'n siŵr fy mod i wedi bod yn gofyn yr un cwestiwn yn gyson ers y cyfnod yna. Ond mae undebau amaeth hefyd yn bryderus bod newidiadau yn y taliadau i ffermwyr yr ŷch chi'n eu cynnig yn 'Brexit a'n tir' yn mynd i arwain at lai o gig coch yn cael ei gynhyrchu yng Nghymru. O ganlyniad, wrth gwrs, mi fydd llai o anifeiliaid yn mynd trwy ladd-dai Cymru. Bydd hynny'n golygu bod llai o bres yn dod o gyfeiriad y lefi i hybu cig Cymru ac, o ganlyniad, bydd yna lai o hyrwyddo o'r cig hwnnw yn digwydd, ac rydych chi'n gweld y cylch dieflig ddaw yn sgil y posibiliad yna. Felly, a gaf i ofyn pa ystyriaeth sydd wedi bod o'r effaith y bydd 'Brexit a'n tir' yn ei gael ar gynhyrchu cig coch yng Nghymru? A pha sicrwydd allwch chi ei roi i'n cynhyrchwyr ni y bydd y Llywodraeth yn parhau i gefnogi'r diwydiant cig coch?