English: I just want to speak very briefly in respect of the amendment that has been tabled by the Welsh Conservatives in respect of the Hendy windfarm. The Cabinet Secretary will be aware that she made a very similar decision to this earlier this year in respect of a windfarm application in my own constituency, in the Denbigh moors area, the Pant y Maen windfarm, which was subject to a planning application that was submitted to Denbighshire County Council. That application was refused, an appeal was made to the Welsh Government, and the inspectorate then produced a report that recommended refusal - very strongly recommended refusal. Other Welsh Government-sponsored bodies, including Cadw, also objected to the development on the basis that it would impact on the view from nearby Bronze Age barrows and burial mounds, and that it would have a devastating impact on the landscape of the nearby Clwydian range area of outstanding natural beauty as well. And yet, for some reason, the Welsh Government - or the Welsh Minister - decided that her view was different to that of the inspector, different to that of the local authority and, unfortunately, this windfarm is now going to be developed. I appreciate the point that Llyr Gruffydd made about the need for a national strategy perspective from the Welsh Government from time to time on issues that are significant, but this is a very small windfarm that is being developed, just seven turbines - just seven individual turbines. It's not huge at all. You could hardly say that seven turbines individually are of strategic importance nationally in the same way that Wylfa Newydd or a much more sizeable offshore windfarm, like the Gwynt y Môr windfarm, might be. So I am concerned that this is riding roughshod, frankly, over local democracy. I think that the people in the area of the Hendy windfarm are facing now precisely the same sort of scenario. I don't think that it's appropriate and I think we need a planning system that is much more balanced and much more reflective of local people's views. So I would urge the Welsh Government to look again at the Hendy windfarm decision. We've already had one wrong, what we don't want are two, three, four, five or many others in the future. Let's get this right, let's sort the balance in the system out, so that we can have some confidence in it going forward. [ Interruption.] I'll take the intervention.
Welsh: Hoffwn i siarad yn fyr ynghylch y gwelliant a gyflwynwyd gan y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig ynglŷn â fferm wynt Hendy. Bydd Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet yn ymwybodol ei bod hi wedi gwneud penderfyniad tebyg i hwn yn gynharach eleni ynglŷn â chais fferm wynt yn fy etholaeth i, yn ardal Mynydd Hiraethog, fferm wynt Pant y Maen, a oedd yn destun cais cynllunio a gafodd ei gyflwyno i Gyngor Sir Ddinbych. Gwrthodwyd y cais hwnnw, gwnaed apêl i Lywodraeth Cymru, ac yna lluniwyd adroddiad gan yr arolygiaeth a oedd yn argymell gwrthod y cais - argymhelliad cryf iawn i wrthod. Roedd cyrff eraill a noddir gan Lywodraeth Cymru, gan gynnwys Cadw, hefyd yn gwrthwynebu'r datblygiad ar y sail y byddai'n effeithio ar yr olygfa o feddrod o'r Oes Efydd a thomenni claddu gerllaw, ac y byddai'n cael effaith ddinistriol ar dirwedd bryniau Clwyd gerllaw, ardal o harddwch naturiol eithriadol hefyd. Ac eto, am ryw reswm, penderfynodd Llywodraeth Cymru - neu Weinidog Cymru - fod ei barn yn wahanol i un yr arolygydd, yn wahanol i un yr awdurdod lleol ac, yn anffodus, mae'r fferm wynt hon bellach yn mynd i gael ei datblygu. Rwy'n gwerthfawrogi'r pwynt hwnnw a wnaeth Llyr Gruffydd am yr angen am bersbectif strategaeth genedlaethol gan Lywodraeth Cymru o bryd i'w gilydd ar faterion arwyddocaol, ond fferm wynt fach iawn yw hon sy'n cael ei datblygu, dim ond saith tyrbin - dim ond saith tyrbin unigol. Nid yw'n enfawr o gwbl. Go brin y gallech chi ddweud bod saith tyrbin unigol o bwysigrwydd strategol cenedlaethol yn yr un modd ag y byddai Wylfa Newydd neu fferm wynt sylweddol, megis fferm wynt Gwynt y Môr. Felly yr wyf yn bryderus mai sathru democratiaeth leol dan draed yw hyn a dweud y gwir. Rwy'n credu bod y bobl yn ardal fferm wynt Hendy yn wynebu'r un math o sefyllfa yn union. Nid wyf i'n credu bod hyn yn briodol ac rwy'n credu bod arnom ni angen system gynllunio sy'n llawer mwy cytbwys ac sy'n adlewyrchu safbwyntiau pobl leol yn well o lawer. Felly fe fyddwn i'n annog Llywodraeth Cymru i edrych eto ar y penderfyniad ynghylch fferm wynt Hendy. Rydym ni eisoes wedi cael un yn anghywir, yr hyn nad ydym ni eisiau ei weld yw dau, tri, pedwar, pump neu lawer mwy yn y dyfodol. Gadewch i ni gael hyn yn iawn, gadewch inni ddatrys y cydbwysedd yn y system, fel y gallwn gael rhywfaint o ffydd wrth inni symud ymlaen. [ Torri ar draws.] Derbyniaf yr ymyriad.