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English: I thank the Member for the question. There are some details in there that he'll understand I'm not likely to have immediate access to. He made an important point in the beginning, that some of this is legacy stuff from those years of Arriva and their underinvestment and the decisions that they made about rolling stock. I'm told by my colleague, the transport Minister, that safeguards are built into the contracts that have been signed by Transport for Wales in relation to the new rolling stock that we're going to have here in Wales. I told the Chamber last week of my meeting with CAF, who have set up their train manufacturing centre in Newport, and how those trains, made in Wales by Welsh workers, will be running on Welsh railways before next year is out. I will check the detail of the Member's question, of course, and make sure that he has an answer to the specific points he's raised with me.
Welsh: Diolchaf i'r Aelod am y cwestiwn. Mae rhai manylion yn y fan yna y bydd ef yn deall nad ydyn nhw'n debygol o fod ar gael i mi ar unwaith. Gwnaeth bwynt pwysig ar y cychwyn, sef bod rhywfaint o hyn yn stwff etifeddiaeth o'r blynyddoedd hynny o Arriva a'u tanfuddsoddi a'r penderfyniadau a wnaed ganddyn nhw am gerbydau. Mae fy nghydweithiwr, y Gweinidog trafnidiaeth, yn dweud wrthyf bod camau diogelu wedi eu cynnwys yn y contractau a lofnodwyd gan Trafnidiaeth Cymru o ran y cerbydau newydd yr ydym ni'n mynd i'w cael yma yng Nghymru. Dywedais wrth y Siambr yr wythnos diwethaf yn fy nghyfarfod â CAF, sydd wedi sefydlu eu canolfan gweithgynhyrchu trenau yng Nghasnewydd, a sut y bydd y trenau hynny, sy'n cael eu gwneud yng Nghymru gan weithwyr Cymru, yn rhedeg ar reilffyrdd Cymru cyn diwedd y flwyddyn nesaf. Byddaf yn edrych ar fanylion cwestiwn yr Aelod, wrth gwrs, ac yn sicrhau ei fod yn cael ateb i'r pwyntiau penodol y mae wedi eu codi gyda mi.
English: What I actually said was that it doesn't appear to be a legacy problem. If you - through Transport for Wales, if the Government has procured a technology that doesn't actually work, then it's you who should have done the due diligence, and the responsibility lies with you. Now, transforming our twentieth-century rail infrastructure demands a radical approach overall. If I wanted to make the 36-mile journey from Pontypool to Treherbert without going by car, I'd almost be better going by bike as by train at the moment. At this time, on a Tuesday afternoon, the train journey takes over two hours. Now, travelling east-west within the south Wales Valleys is as difficult as travelling north-south in Wales as a whole, and for the same reasons - Beeching and the legacy of an extractive economy that prioritised moving product over people. Isn't now the time, First Minister, to turn that on its head and, as Mark Barry and my party have proposed, connect the Heads of the Valleys not just by road but by rail, creating a new corridor of development with a 50 km rapid-transit crossrail for the Valleys?
Welsh: Yr hyn a ddywedais mewn gwirionedd oedd nad yw'n ymddangos mai problem etifeddiaeth yw hon. Os ydych chi - trwy Trafnidiaeth Cymru, os yw'r Llywodraeth wedi caffael technoleg nad yw'n gweithio mewn gwirionedd, yna chi ddylai fod wedi gwneud y diwydrwydd dyladwy, a chi sy'n gyfrifol. Nawr, mae gweddnewid ein seilwaith rheilffyrdd ugeinfed ganrif yn galw am ddull radical yn gyffredinol. Pe byddwn i eisiau gwneud y daith 36 milltir o Bont-y-pŵl i Dreherbert heb fynd mewn car, byddai bron yn well i mi fynd ar feic nag ar drên ar hyn o bryd. Ar yr adeg hon, ar brynhawn dydd Mawrth, mae'r daith drên yn cymryd dros ddwy awr. Nawr, mae teithio o'r dwyrain i'r gorllewin yng Nghymoedd y De mor anodd â theithio o'r gogledd i'r de yng Nghymru gyfan, ac am yr un rhesymau - Beeching ac etifeddiaeth economi echdynnol a roddodd flaenoriaeth i symud cynnyrch dros bobl. Onid nawr yw'r amser, Prif Weinidog, i weddnewid hynny'n llwyr ac, fel y mae Mark Barry a'm plaid i wedi ei gynnig, cysylltu Blaenau'r Cymoedd nid yn unig trwy ffyrdd ond drwy reilffyrdd, gan greu coridor newydd o ddatblygiad gyda chroes-reilffordd cludiant cyflym 50 cilomedr i'r Cymoedd?
English: Well, first of all, Llywydd, the Member is quite wrong if he thinks that the legacy of Arriva, and the years of neglect that were inflicted on Wales by that franchise and by the failure to account for any growth in passenger numbers during it - if he thinks there isn't a legacy issue there that has to be dealt with, then I'm afraid he needs to read up a bit on the history of that. I don't accept that the technology doesn't work. I've said that I will investigate his questions. That doesn't mean for a minute that I accept that there is a problem simply because he asserts that there may be one. And the Welsh Government is investing enormous sums of money to complete the Heads of the Valleys road so that there is a link across east-west in that part of Wales. That demonstrates completely this Government's commitment to Valleys communities and to connectivity between them.
Welsh: Wel, yn gyntaf oll, Llywydd, mae'r Aelod yn hollol anghywir os yw'n credu nad yw etifeddiaeth Arriva, a'r blynyddoedd o esgeulustod a orfodwyd ar Gymru gan y fasnachfraint honno, a chan y methiant i fod yn gyfrifol am unrhyw dwf i nifer y teithwyr yn ei hystod - os yw'n credu nad oes problem etifeddiaeth yn y fan yna y mae'n rhaid ymdrin â hi, yna mae arnaf ofn bod angen iddo ddarllen ychydig am hanes hynny. Nid wyf i'n derbyn nad yw'r dechnoleg yn gweithio. Rwyf i wedi dweud y byddaf yn ymchwilio i'w gwestiynau. Nid yw hynny'n golygu am funud fy mod i'n derbyn bod problem dim ond am ei fod ef yn honni y gallai fod un. Ac mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn buddsoddi symiau enfawr o arian i gwblhau ffordd Blaenau'r Cymoedd fel bod cyswllt o'r dwyrain i'r gorllewin yn y rhan honno o Gymru. Mae hynny'n dangos yn llwyr ymrwymiad y Llywodraeth hon i gymunedau'r Cymoedd ac i gysylltedd rhyngddynt.
English: First Minister, your future generations commissioner, Sophie Howe, has announced that GCSEs are not fit for purpose and should be scrapped. She claims this is necessary as the new curriculum replaces what she characterised as the 'silos' of traditional subjects with six areas of learning and experience. The co-author of her White Paper, Professor Calvin Jones, says they struggle with the idea of a public standardised exam that gives pupils a grade. Instead, they want schools to focus on teaching the skills of empathy, emotional intelligence, artistry, creativity, care giving and carbon cutting. Does the First Minister agree with their vision for the future of education in Wales?
Welsh: Prif Weinidog, mae eich comisiynydd cenedlaethau'r dyfodol, Sophie Howe, wedi cyhoeddi nad yw cymwysterau TGAU yn addas i'w diben ac y dylid eu diddymu. Mae'n honni bod hyn yn angenrheidiol gan fod y cwricwlwm newydd yn disodli'r hyn a briodolwyd ganddi fel 'seilos' pynciau traddodiadol gyda chwe maes dysgu a phrofiad. Mae cyd-awdur ei Phapur Gwyn, yr Athro Calvin Jones, yn dweud eu bod yn cael trafferth gyda'r syniad o arholiad safonedig cyhoeddus sy'n rhoi gradd i ddisgyblion. Yn hytrach, maen nhw eisiau i ysgolion ganolbwyntio ar addysgu sgiliau empathi, deallusrwydd emosiynol, artistiaeth, creadigrwydd, rhoi gofal a thorri carbon. A yw'r Prif Weinidog yn cytuno â'u gweledigaeth ar gyfer dyfodol addysg yng Nghymru?
English: Well, I agree that the introduction of the new curriculum requires a new qualifications framework to go with it - it's why Qualifications Wales is doing exactly that. I thought the contribution from the future generations commissioner, as ever, is an important contribution to the debate, as I thought the report today from the Welsh Youth Parliament on the same subject was particularly interesting and useful. It describes the danger that Welsh schools produce 'A* robots', by which it means that they teach their pupils very well to pass exams, but those children aren't necessarily equipped with the sort of thinking skills, the sort of critical capacity, that we know employers tell us that they are looking for in young people entering the workplace. I thought it was particularly interesting that that point of view comes from young people themselves. The Minister is meeting the Youth Parliament on Friday to discuss their report. Taking that and the work of the commissioner together, they will be important contributions to thinking about the way in which we have a qualifications approach that goes with the radical new curriculum we are introducing in Wales.
Welsh: Wel, rwy'n cytuno bod cyflwyno'r cwricwlwm newydd yn gofyn am fframwaith cymwysterau newydd i gyd-fynd ag ef - dyna pam mae Cymwysterau Cymru yn gwneud yn union hynny. Roeddwn i'n meddwl bod y cyfraniad gan gomisiynydd cenedlaethau'r dyfodol, fel arfer, yn gyfraniad pwysig at y ddadl, gan fy mod i'n meddwl bod yr adroddiad heddiw gan Senedd Ieuenctid Cymru ar yr un pwnc yn arbennig o ddiddorol a defnyddiol. Mae'n disgrifio'r perygl y bydd ysgolion Cymru yn cynhyrchu 'robotiaid A*', sy'n golygu eu bod nhw'n addysgu eu disgyblion yn dda iawn i lwyddo mewn arholiadau, ond nad yw'r plant hynny o reidrwydd yn meddu ar y math o sgiliau meddwl, y math o allu beirniadol, yr ydym ni'n gwybod bod cyflogwyr yn dweud wrthym ni y maen nhw'n chwilio amdanynt ymhlith pobl ifanc sy'n dechrau yn y gweithle. Roeddwn i'n meddwl ei bod yn arbennig o ddiddorol bod y safbwynt hwnnw'n dod gan bobl ifanc eu hunain. Mae'r Gweinidog yn cyfarfod â'r Senedd Ieuenctid ddydd Gwener i drafod eu hadroddiad. Gan ystyried hynny a gwaith y comisiynydd gyda'i gilydd, byddan nhw'n gyfraniadau pwysig at feddwl am y ffordd y mae gennym ni ddull cymwysterau sy'n cyd-fynd â'r cwricwlwm newydd radical yr ydym ni'n ei gyflwyno yng Nghymru.
English: But do our schools teach pupils very well to pass exams - or at least sufficiently - on the current results? One change we are having, which I should welcome, which the education Secretary put out this morning, is we are seeing a 2.75 per cent increase in teachers' pay and 5 per cent for the newly qualified, and, I think, £12.8 million in the current year to support that. However, would the First Minister agree that this may be too little, too late to address the deep crisis we see in teacher recruitment currently? Will he also consider whether lower standards of education in Wales compared to England, at least on the results that we are able to compare and the Programme for International Student Assessment ratings, reflect more than just relative spending priorities? May they not also reflect progressive policy and a lack of rigorous comparison of achievement among pupils, schools and UK nations? Estyn reports have dropped their key stage 2 comparisons among schools; Welsh Government has got rid of their target for five good GCSEs, including Maths and English or Welsh; and we've seen our GCSE A to G grades diverging from the 1 to 9 they now have in England. Is the final stage in ending accountability for this Government's failure in education simply to abolish GCSEs?
Welsh: Ond a yw ein hysgolion yn addysgu disgyblion yn dda iawn i lwyddo mewn arholiadau - neu o leiaf yn ddigonol - ar sail y canlyniadau presennol? Un newid yr ydym ni'n ei gael, y dylwn i ei groesawu, a gyhoeddwyd gan yr Ysgrifennydd addysg y bore yma, yw ein bod ni'n gweld cynnydd o 2.75 y cant i gyflogau athrawon a 5 y cant i'r rhai sydd newydd gymhwyso, ac, rwy'n credu, £12.8 yn y flwyddyn gyfredol i gefnogi hynny. Fodd bynnag, a yw'r Prif Weinidog yn cytuno y gallai hyn fod yn rhy ychydig, yn rhy hwyr i fynd i'r afael â'r argyfwng dwys yr ydym ni'n ei weld o ran recriwtio athrawon ar hyn o bryd? A wnaiff ef hefyd ystyried a yw safonau addysg is yng Nghymru o'u cymharu â Lloegr, o leiaf ar sail y canlyniadau y gallwn ni eu cymharu a sgoriau'r Rhaglen Ryngwladol Asesu Myfyrwyr, yn adlewyrchu mwy na dim ond blaenoriaethau gwario cymharol? Onid ydyn nhw hefyd yn adlewyrchu polisi blaengar a diffyg cymhariaeth lem o gyflawniad ymhlith disgyblion, ysgolion a chenhedloedd y DU? Mae adroddiadau Estyn wedi cael gwared ar eu cymariaethau cyfnod allweddol 2 ymhlith ysgolion; mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi cael gwared ar ei tharged ar gyfer pum TGAU da, gan gynnwys Mathemateg a Chymraeg neu Saesneg; ac rydym ni wedi gweld ein graddau TGAU A i G yn ymwahanu oddi wrth yr 1 i 9 sydd ganddyn nhw yn Lloegr erbyn hyn. Ai'r cam olaf o ran rhoi terfyn ar atebolrwydd am fethiant y Llywodraeth hon ym maes addysg yw cymryd y cam syml o ddiddymu cymwysterau TGAU?
English: Well, I certainly don't agree with that, of course, Llywydd. A* grades in A-levels in Wales in the summer were the best in any part of the United Kingdom - the very best, better than any part of England, better than Scotland. Welsh young people achieving the very top grades in examinations and outstripping anybody else - I don't regard that as a failure of our system. And his Gradgrind approach to education, that it's simply there to factorise children through a system so they come out at the end of it, not as young people who've had a breadth of education, not as young people who are taught to think critically, not as young people who are able to understand, argue and to participate in that wider way, but just have a set of qualifications, that's not my idea of education, because I want our children to have both. I want them to have successful qualifications, but I want them to have an education experience that will fit them for life in the twenty-first century, and that's what our curriculum will provide.
Welsh: Wel, yn sicr, nid wyf yn cytuno â hynny, wrth gwrs, Llywydd. Roedd y graddau A* mewn cyrsiau Safon Uwch yng Nghymru yn yr haf y gorau o unrhyw ran o'r Deyrnas Unedig - y gorau oll, yn well nag unrhyw ran o Loegr, yn well na'r Alban. Pobl ifanc Cymru yn ennill y graddau uchaf oll mewn arholiadau ac yn gwneud yn well na neb arall - nid wyf i'n ystyried hynny'n fethiant yn ein system. Ac mae ei agwedd Gradgrind tuag at addysg, ei bod yn bodoli'n syml i ffactoreiddio plant drwy system fel eu bod yn dod allan ar ei diwedd, nid fel pobl ifanc sydd wedi cael addysg eang, nid fel pobl ifanc sy'n cael eu haddysgu i feddwl yn feirniadol, nid fel pobl ifanc sy'n gallu deall, dadlau a chymryd rhan yn y ffordd ehangach honno, ond dim ond i gael cyfres o gymwysterau, nid dyna fy syniad i o addysg, oherwydd rwyf i eisiau i'n plant gael y ddau. Rwyf i eisiau iddyn nhw gael cymwysterau llwyddiannus, ond rwyf i eisiau iddyn nhw gael profiad o addysg a fydd yn eu paratoi ar gyfer bywyd yn yr unfed ganrif ar hugain, a dyna fydd ein cwricwlwm ni yn ei ddarparu.
English: I thank the Member for that question, Llywydd. Over the next 12 months, our skills training will see the introduction of Job Support Wales, simplifying and consolidating the current suite of employability programmes. That will take place in the context of the impact that Brexit has produced on the skill needs of Welsh employers.
Welsh: Diolchaf i'r Aelod am y cwestiwn yna, Llywydd. Dros y 12 mis nesaf, bydd ein hyfforddiant sgiliau yn arwain at gyflwyno Cymorth Swyddi Cymru, gan symleiddio a chyfnerthu'r gyfres bresennol o raglenni cyflogadwyedd. Bydd hynny'n digwydd yng nghyd-destun yr effaith y mae Brexit wedi ei chael ar anghenion sgiliau cyflogwyr Cymru.
English: Thank you very much, First Minister, for the answer. The UK Conservative Government has announced it is to invest £120 million to establish eight new institutes of technology in England. This is in addition to the 12 institutes already in operation there. These institutes are a partnership between further education colleges, universities and employers, offering higher education technical qualifications for students in areas such as digital, construction, manufacturing and engineering. First Minister, given that the Confederation of British Industry in Wales has called for a greater focus on vocational qualifications, what consideration have you given to opening institutes of technology to improve the skill set base for workers in Wales, please?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Prif Weinidog, am yr ateb. Mae Llywodraeth Geidwadol y DU wedi cyhoeddi y bydd yn buddsoddi £120 miliwn i sefydlu wyth o sefydliadau technoleg newydd yn Lloegr. Mae hyn yn ychwanegol at y 12 o sefydliadau sydd eisoes yn weithredol yno. Partneriaeth rhwng colegau addysg bellach, prifysgolion a chyflogwyr yw'r sefydliadau hyn, ac maen nhw'n cynnig cymwysterau technegol addysg uwch i fyfyrwyr mewn meysydd fel digidol, adeiladu, gweithgynhyrchu a pheirianneg. Prif Weinidog, o gofio bod Cydffederasiwn Diwydiant Prydain yng Nghymru wedi galw am fwy o bwyslais ar gymwysterau galwedigaethol, pa ystyriaeth ydych chi wedi ei rhoi i agor sefydliadau technoleg i wella'r sail sgiliau i weithwyr yng Nghymru, os gwelwch yn dda?
English: Llywydd, it's good to see the system in England catching up with what we've been doing here in Wales. We don't need to invent new centres in Wales, because we already have centres doing what the new technology centres purport to do across our border. That's why we have been increasing higher level apprenticeships in our further education colleges. It's why we have degree apprenticeships, level 6 apprenticeships, for the first time starting work in September of this year with £20 million-worth of new investment. We are serious here in Wales about vocational qualifications, and the importance that they play in the Welsh economy. As I say, they're catching up across our border, and it's good to see them doing it.
Welsh: Llywydd, mae'n braf gweld y system yn Lloegr yn dal i fyny â'r hyn yr ydym ni wedi bod yn ei wneud yma yng Nghymru. Nid oes angen i ni ddyfeisio canolfannau newydd yng Nghymru, gan fod gennym ni ganolfannau eisoes sy'n gwneud yr hyn y mae'r canolfannau technoleg newydd yn honni eu bod yn ei wneud dros y ffin. Dyna pam yr ydym ni wedi bod yn cynyddu prentisiaethau lefel uwch yn ein colegau addysg bellach. Dyma pam mae gennym ni brentisiaethau gradd, prentisiaethau lefel 6, am y tro cyntaf yn dechrau gweithio ym mis Medi eleni gyda gwerth £20 miliwn o fuddsoddiad newydd. Rydym ni o ddifrif yma yng Nghymru ynglŷn â chymwysterau galwedigaethol, a'u pwysigrwydd yn economi Cymru. Fel rwy'n dweud, maen nhw'n dal i fyny dros y ffin, ac mae'n braf eu gweld nhw'n gwneud hynny.
English: There's been a great deal of focus on teachers' skills in the statutory sector in terms of teaching through the medium of Welsh, but there hasn't been as much focus on the skills of those in FE in terms of how they can teach through the medium of Welsh. During a recent meeting of the Economy, Infrastructure and Skills Committee, the Welsh Language Commissioner joined us and told us that there was a lack of data about what level of skill exists within the sector in terms of the tutors, and that there is a shortage of tutors who have the capacity to teach through the medium of Welsh. So, what is your Government doing to try and change that, and what plans are in place to ensure that those teaching in FE have those necessary skills?
Welsh: Mae yna lot o ffocws ar sgiliau athrawon yn y sector statudol o ran dysgu drwy gyfrwng y Gymraeg, ond does dim cymaint o ffocws ar sgiliau y rheini sy'n dysgu yn addysg bellach o ran sut maen nhw'n medru'r Gymraeg. Yn ystod y Pwyllgor Economi, Seilwaith a Sgiliau yn ddiweddar, daeth Comisiynydd y Gymraeg i mewn atom i ddweud bod yna ddiffyg data yn bodoli ynglŷn â faint o sgiliau sydd yn bodoli yn y sector o ran y tiwtoriaid, a bod yna ddiffyg tiwtoriaid sydd â'r capasiti i ddysgu drwy gyfrwng y Gymraeg. Beth mae'ch Llywodraeth chi wedi'i wneud i geisio newid hynny, a pha gynlluniau sydd ar waith i sicrhau bod y rheini sydd yn dysgu ym maes addysg bellach yn gallu meddu ar y sgiliau hynny?
English: Thank you very much for that question. Of course, I agree on the work we are doing to invest in people's skills in the classroom, that's vital to help people with the confidence to use the language and to create an atmosphere where they can use the skills that they have already to help young people. That's why we're investing the greatest amount of money in our history in the people in the workforce in schools, and we want to do more in FE as well to use the lessons that we've seen in the classrooms in our schools, and to do more with the FE colleges as well.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr am y cwestiwn. Wrth gwrs, dwi'n cytuno am y gwaith rydym ni'n ei wneud i fuddsoddi mewn sgiliau pobl yn y dosbarth, mae hwnnw'n hollbwysig i helpu pobl gyda'u hyder i ddefnyddio'r iaith ac i greu awyrgylch ble maen nhw'n gallu defnyddio y sgiliau sydd ganddyn nhw yn barod i helpu pobl ifanc. Dyna pam rydym ni'n buddsoddi y swm mwyaf yn ein hanes ni yn y gweithlu mewn ysgolion, ac rydym ni eisiau gwneud mwy yn addysg bellach hefyd i ddefnyddio'r gwersi rydym wedi eu gweld yn y dosbarth yn ein hysgolion ni, ac i wneud mwy gyda'r colegau addysg bellach hefyd.
English: We must rightly acknowledge the recent extensive work put in by the Welsh Government in putting in place the infrastructure that will produce a better skilled workforce for the future. Can I ask, however, what progress has been made by local authorities in developing skill pathways by integrating vocational training into the wider education system?
Welsh: Mae'n rhaid i ni gydnabod yn briodol y gwaith helaeth a wnaeth Llywodraeth Cymru yn ddiweddar wrth sefydlu'r seilwaith a fydd yn creu gweithlu mwy medrus ar gyfer y dyfodol. A gaf i ofyn, fodd bynnag, pa gynnydd sydd wedi ei wneud gan awdurdodau lleol o ran datblygu llwybrau sgiliau trwy integreiddio hyfforddiant galwedigaethol i'r system addysg ehangach?
English: Well, Llywydd, we work with our local authority colleagues, of course, to make sure that the contribution they can make through their representation at further education, and in the schools that they themselves run, to make sure that the skills agenda is understood and implemented there. It's one of the key things that Government does, Llywydd, to invest in people and to provide them with the skills that they need for the future. We expect all local authorities to work with local employers as well as listening to the voice of the learners themselves. When my colleague Ken Skates commissioned an independent review of regional skills partnerships, one of the things that that report said was that as well as listening to the voice of professionals, we need to learn from the learners as well. Because they will often tell us important things about the quality of the experience in the classroom, the quality of the experience they get when out on the job, and by learning from their experience, we can improve the experience for others who come after them.
Welsh: Wel, Llywydd, rydym ni'n gweithio gyda'n cydweithwyr mewn awdurdodau lleol, wrth gwrs, i sicrhau bod y cyfraniad y gallan nhw ei wneud drwy eu cynrychiolaeth mewn addysg bellach, ac yn yr ysgolion y maen nhw eu hunain yn eu rhedeg, i sicrhau bod yr agenda sgiliau yn cael ei deall a'i gweithredu yno. Mae'n un o'r pethau allweddol y mae Llywodraeth yn ei wneud, Llywydd, i fuddsoddi mewn pobl ac i roi iddyn nhw y sgiliau sydd eu hangen arnynt ar gyfer y dyfodol. Rydym ni'n disgwyl i bob awdurdod lleol weithio gyda chyflogwyr lleol yn ogystal â gwrando ar lais y dysgwyr eu hunain. Pan gomisiynodd fy nghyd-Weinidog Ken Skates adolygiad annibynnol o bartneriaethau sgiliau rhanbarthol, un o'r pethau yr oedd yr adroddiad hwnnw'n ei ddweud oedd bod angen i ni ddysgu gan y dysgwyr yn ogystal â gwrando ar lais gweithwyr proffesiynol. Oherwydd byddan nhw'n aml yn dweud pethau pwysig wrthym ni am ansawdd y profiad yn yr ystafell ddosbarth, ansawdd y profiad y maen nhw'n ei gael pan fyddan nhw allan yn gweithio, a thrwy ddysgu o'u profiad, gallwn wella'r profiad i eraill sy'n dod ar eu holau.