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English: I don't know, because it's too early yet to say what the impact will be. Certainly, we do accept the fact that we are living in a period where public funding is tight, is being restricted, and, indeed, reduced. That is part of the devolution process, and this emerges from the budget that the Welsh Government receives from the UK Government and that is a political matter for you to discuss with Members of Parliament and, indeed, UK Government Ministers, because we operate within the restricted budget that we have and what we're looking for is value for money and innovation in modus operandi in very difficult circumstances. We regularly have discussions with the bodies that we fund - the Arts Council, the museums, Ffilm Cymru, whom I was with at the end of last week - and we seek to ensure that the expenditure that these organisations are responsible for - . Their priorities are their own decisions, of course, but we do have discussions with them, and the appointed members of these boards are directly responsible for their own budgets and for controlling expenditure within those organisations.
Welsh: Dwi ddim yn gwybod, oherwydd mae hi'n gynnar eto i weld beth fydd yr effaith. Yn sicr, rydyn ni'n derbyn y ffaith ein bod ni'n byw mewn cyfnod lle mae cyllid cyhoeddus yn dynn ac yn cael ei gyfyngu, ac, yn wir, yn cael ei leihau. Mae hynny'n rhan o'r drefn ddatganoli, ac mae hyn yn deillio o'r gyllideb y mae Llywodraeth Cymru'n ei dderbyn oddi wrth Lywodraeth y Deyrnas Unedig, ac mae hwnna'n fater gwleidyddol i chi drafod gydag Aelodau Seneddol, ac, yn wir, Gweinidogion yn y Deyrnas Unedig, oherwydd rydym ni'n gweithredu o fewn y gyllideb gyfyngedig sydd gyda ni, a beth dŷn ni'n edrych amdano fo ydy gwerth am arian bob amser ac arloesedd mewn ffyrdd o weithredu mewn sefyllfaoedd anodd. Rydym ni'n trafod yn gyson gyda'r cyrff rydym ni'n eu cyllido - yr amgueddfeydd, Cyngor y Celfyddydau, Ffilm Cymru, yr oeddwn i efo nhw ddiwedd yr wythnos diwethaf - ac rydym ni'n ceisio gweld sut rydym ni'n gallu sicrhau bod y gwariant yma y mae'r cyrff yma'n gyfrifol amdano fo - . Eu penderfyniadau nhw yw eu blaenoriaethau nhw. Dŷn ni, wrth gwrs, yn trafod gyda nhw, ac mae aelodau penodedig y byrddau yma yn gyfrifol yn uniongyrchol am eu cyllidebau ac am reoli'r gwariant yn y cyrff.
English: Can you explain - ? You said that you haven't been able to look at the impact. Why do you say that? Because some of these cuts had happened not during the last review by the arts council, but during the one before that - a number of years ago, therefore. Why wouldn't the Welsh Government, therefore, have made some sort of assessment of the impact on these communities in terms of social exclusion?
Welsh: Allwch chi esbonio beth - ? Roeddech chi wedi deud eich bod chi ddim eto wedi gallu edrych i mewn i'r impact. Pam dŷch chi'n dweud hynny? Oherwydd roedd rhai o'r toriadau yma wedi digwydd nid yn ystod yr adolygiad diwethaf gan gyngor y celfyddydau, ond yr un cyn hynny - nifer o flynyddoedd yn ôl, felly. Felly, pam na fyddai Llywodraeth Cymru wedi gwneud rhyw fath o asesiad o'r impact ar y cymunedau yma o ran allgáu cymdeithasol?
English: I'm not sure if that is the responsibility of this department of Government - to carry out an inquiry into the way that other organisations spend their money. I think it's our responsibility to secure appropriate funding so that we can, within our budget, provide for those organisations. And if they want to discuss any practical issues with us on their budget, then they are welcome to do so.
Welsh: Dwi ddim yn siŵr os ydy hwnnw yn gyfrifoldeb i'r adran yma o'r Llywodraeth - i wneud ymchwiliad ar y ffordd y mae cyrff eraill yn gwario eu harian. Dwi'n meddwl mai ein dyletswydd ni ydy sicrhau cyllid priodol fel y gallwn ni, o fewn ein cyllideb, i'r cyrff. Ac yna, os ydyn nhw am drafod gyda ni unrhyw faterion ymarferol ynglŷn â'u cyllideb, maen nhw'n agored i wneud hynny.
English: But you'd have discussions with them? For example, the arts council had told us that they hadn't done enough over the years in terms of social exclusion. Wouldn't you say, therefore 'Why? What is the rationale behind that? What are you going to change in your ways to close that gap?'?
Welsh: Ond byddech chi'n cael trafodaethau gyda nhw? Er enghraifft, roedd y cyngor celfyddydau wedi dweud wrthym ni nad ydyn nhw wedi gwneud digon dros y blynyddoedd o ran allgáu cymdeithasol. Oni fyddech chi'n dweud, 'Wel, pam felly? Beth yw'r rationale y tu ôl i hynny? Beth ydych chi'n mynd i'w newid o ran eich ffyrdd er mwyn cau'r gagendor hynny?'?
English: My relationship is directly with the chair of the council and the members of the council, and of course the chief executive. And there are regular discussions taking place between us, usually at events that I seek to attend as a practical way of supporting what the council funds. And in those discussions and negotiations we do discuss the way we seek to ensure that the social objectives of the arts and culture are being delivered. And indeed, that is a very clear desire among these organisations, because their attitude and our attitude towards the role of a constructive culture within society - . And I think it's very important that we're clear in this issue. This isn't a matter of culture being used to tackle poverty - it's a matter of constructive culture. There is more than one kind of culture - it's a matter of progressive culture, if you like - being used as a means of identifying social inequality. And you don't need a better example of that than the artwork that has just been unveiled by the National Trust in the wash-house in Tredegar House, where there is a wonderful mural by Geraint, an artist from Cardiff, which has been commissioned by the trust, which emphasises how every regime that includes large buildings and great wealth is a system that in and of itself is an example of a classed society. And these things are part of the nature of our art - it's radical art such as that that we have here in Wales.
Welsh: Mae fy mherthynas i yn uniongyrchol efo cadeirydd y cyngor ac efo aelodau'r cyngor, ac wrth gwrs efo'r prif weithredwr. Ac mae yna drafodaethau cyson yn mynd ymlaen rhyngom ni, a hynny, fel arfer, mewn digwyddiadau y bydda i'n ceisio eu mynychu fel ffordd ymarferol o gefnogi'r hyn y mae'r cyngor yn ei gyllido. Ac yn y trafodaethau yna rydym ni yn trafod y modd y mae ceisio sicrhau bod amcanion cymdeithasol celfyddyd a diwylliant yn cael eu cyfleu. Ac yn wir, mae hynny yn awydd clir iawn gan y cyrff yma, oherwydd mae eu hagwedd nhw a'n hagwedd ninnau tuag at rôl diwylliant adeiladol mewn cymdeithas - . A dwi'n meddwl ei bod hi'n bwysig iawn i ni fod yn glir yn y mater yma. Nid mater o ddiwylliant yn gallu cael ei ddefnyddio i fynd i'r afael â thlodi yw hyn - mae'n fater o ddiwylliant adeiladol. Mae yna fwy nag un math o ddiwylliant - mater o ddiwylliant progressive, os liciwch chi - yn cael eu defnyddio fel ffordd o ddangos anghyfartaledd cymdeithasol. A does dim eisiau enghraifft well o hynny na'r gwaith celf sydd newydd gael ei ddadorchuddio gan yr Ymddiriedolaeth Genedlaethol yn yr achos yma, yn y golchdy yn Nhŷ Tredegar, lle mae yna furlun rhagorol gan Geraint, arlunydd o Gaerdydd, wedi'i gomisiynu gan yr ymddiriedolaeth, sy'n pwysleisio fel y mae pob cyfundrefn sydd yn cynnwys adeiladau mawr a chyfoeth yn gyfundrefn sydd ynddo'i hun yn enghraifft o gymdeithas ddosbarth. Ac mae'r pethau yma yn rhan o natur ein celfyddyd ni - celfyddyd radical fel yna sydd gyda ni yng Nghymru.
English: Final question from me. We've heard a lot of evidence from organisations that say that when there are cuts, those have happened across the sector - some sort of top slicing - rather than looking at the organisations themselves and seeing who's working on a community level, who's doing more in terms of helping to tackle poverty. What do you say in reaction to that? Shouldn't there be a system where, if you are making more of an effort to go out to those communities that some people define as being difficult to reach - some would argue that just going there is important - what would you say to the arts council if they are going to change the structure of how they fund some of these groups?
Welsh: Cwestiwn olaf gen i. Rŷm ni wedi clywed lot o dystiolaeth gan fudiadau sy'n dweud pan fo yna doriadau, bod hynny wedi digwydd ar draws y sector - rhyw fath o top slicing - yn hytrach nag edrych ar y mudiadau eu hunain a gweld pwy sy'n gweithio'n gymunedol, pwy sy'n gwneud mwy o ran helpu i fynd i'r afael â thlodi. Beth dŷch chi'n ddweud i hynny? Oni ddylai fod yna system lle os dŷch chi yn gwneud mwy o ymdrech i fynd mas i'r cymunedau yna y mae rhai pobl yn eu diffinio fel anodd i ymestyn atyn nhw - er, byddai rhai yn dadlau dim ond angen mynd mas yna sy'n bwysig - beth fyddech chi'n ei ddweud wrth y cyngor celfyddydau os ydyn nhw'n mynd i newid strwythur sut maen nhw'n ariannu rhai o'r grwpiau yma?
English: Well, that's not how we work. You have to understand that I'm old-fashioned - I believe in the arm's-length principle in terms of -
Welsh: Wel, nid fel yna ydym ni'n gweithio. Mae'n rhaid i chi ddeall fy mod i'n hen ffasiwn - dwi'n credu yn yr egwyddor hyd braich yn y berthynas rhwng -
English: Not in terms of the relationship with the national library.
Welsh: Ddim o ran y berthynas gyda'r llyfrgell genedlaethol.
English: Do you want to discuss the national library?
Welsh: Ydych chi eisiau trafod y llyfrgell genedlaethol?
English: We will be discussing it later, but you don't believe in an arm's-length principle in that sense, because you have intervened in certain other areas. So you can't have it both ways.
Welsh: Byddwn ni yn ei thrafod hi, ond dŷch chi ddim yn credu yn y polisi hyd braich, achos dŷch chi wedi ymyrryd mewn rhai ardaloedd eraill. Felly dŷch chi ddim yn gallu cael un enghraifft mewn un ardal a ddim mewn ardal arall.
English: We're talking about two entirely different things, and with all due respect -
Welsh: Dŷn ni'n sôn am ddau beth hollol wahanol, a gyda phob parch -
English: They are two arm's-length organisation, with all due respect, Deputy Minister.
Welsh: Maen nhw'n ddau fudiad hyd braich, gyda phob parch, Dirprwy Weinidog.
English: If you wish to continue to have a reasonable discussion with me in this committee, then I would ask you to let me answer the questions that you're asking. I'm now discussing the arm's-length relationship with the arts council. The arts council is a statutory body that has been established under royal charter, and the independence of that body is crucial in safeguarding freedom of expression in Wales. Therefore, it's not the role of a Minister, in my view - and I would never do it, certainly, and I wouldn't approve of it, as a former member of the Arts Council of Wales and its committees in the past - I believe that it's a matter for the council to decide how the funding that we've allocated to the council is spent.
Welsh: Os ydych chi'n dymuno parhau trafodaeth resymol efo fi yn y pwyllgor yma, dwi'n gofyn i chi adael i mi ateb y cwestiynau dŷch chi'n eu gofyn yn eu trefn. Dwi rŵan yn trafod fy mherthynas hyd braich gyda'r cyngor celfyddydau. Mae'r cyngor celfyddydau yn gorff statudol sydd wedi'i sefydlu gan siarter brenhinol, ac mae annibyniaeth y corff yna'n hanfodol i ddiogelu rhyddid mynegiant yng Nghymru. Felly, dydy o ddim yn rôl Gweinidog, yn fy marn i - a buaswn i byth yn ei wneud o, beth bynnag, nac yn ei gymeradwyo, fel cyn-aelod o Gyngor Celfyddydau Cymru ac o'i phwyllgorau hi yn y gorffennol - dwi'n credu mai mater i'r cyngor ydy penderfynu sut mae arian rydym ni wedi'i roi i'r cyngor yn cael ei wario.
English: Thank you, and thank you for your response, Deputy Minister, but with all respect, I'm chairing this committee, therefore, if I need to intervene on what you're saying because of the nature of the discussion, then I think you should also respect the process of this Senedd. Thank you very much. Huw Irranca-Davies.
Welsh: Diolch, a diolch ichi am yr ateb, Ddirprwy Weinidog. Ond, gyda phob parch, fi sydd yn cadeirio'r pwyllgor yma, ac felly, os ydw i angen ymyrryd ar yr hyn dŷch chi'n ei ddweud oherwydd natur y drafodaeth, yna dwi'n credu y dylech chi hefyd parchu proses y Senedd yma hefyd. Diolch yn fawr iawn. Huw Irranca-Davies.
English: Good morning. You said earlier that there was more than one culture. Do you think there is a danger sometimes - that there is room for two things? It's one thing to use organisations such as the WNO to take great art to the people, but also we need to recognise that there different types of art and culture can be art, and that there is a need for some large organisations, especially those that are funded through Fusion, to be working with small organisations in these communities and therefore need to look at culture not just as culture with a capital 'C' but as something that's an integral part of the different communities in Wales.
Welsh: Bore da. Roeddech chi'n dweud yn gynharach fod yna fwy nag un diwylliant. Ydych chi'n meddwl bod yna beryg weithiau - wel, bod yna le i ddau beth? Mae'n un peth i ddefnyddio sefydliadau fel y WNO i gymryd celfyddyd mawr at y bobl, ond hefyd ein bod ni angen cydnabod bod celfyddyd a diwylliannau gwahanol yn gallu bod yn gelfyddyd, a bod angen i rai sefydliadau mawr, yn enwedig y rhai sydd wedi eu hariannu drwy Fusion, i fod yn gweithio gyda'r sefydliadau bach sydd yn y cymunedau yma ac sydd felly angen edrych ar ddiwylliant, nid jest fel diwylliant ' capital D' math o beth, ond hefyd rhywbeth sydd yn rhan annatod o'r cymunedau gwahanol yng Nghymru?
English: Just to make it clear, I didn't mean that I consider culture as having a capital C, but there is that perception amongst some people and some people think - . You said that the Government hasn't perhaps been able to be innovative enough in attempting to reach not just different communities, but to ensure that different communities not only feel that they own culture but that their culture is owned by everybody else in Wales. What else do you think the Government could be doing in order to be more innovative in that sense?
Welsh: Dylwn i jest ei gwneud hin glir, dôn i ddim yn golygu fy mod fi yn meddwl bod yna ddiwylliant gyda D mawr, ond y perception gyda rhai pobl am hynny a bod rhai pobl yn meddwl bod - . Roeddech chi'n dweud efallai nad yw'r Llywodraeth wedi gallu bod yn ddigon beiddgar nid jest wrth gyrraedd cymunedau gwahanol ond wrth wneud yn siŵr fod cymunedau gwahanol yn teimlo nid yn unig fod diwylliant yn eiddo iddyn nhw ond hefyd bod eu diwylliant nhw yn eiddo i bawb arall yng Nghymru. Beth arall dŷch chi'n meddwl y gall y Llywodraeth fod yn ei gwneud er mwyn bod yn fwy beiddgar gyda hynny?
English: Supporting events, that's the important thing - events that have been arranged on a community level, not trying to provide for people. It's important to support events and reforms that provide opportunities for people to participate. That's the important thing. That has to happen within a community or happen within a certain area of life or within a certain linguistic group. I think we have improved, if I may say so, or the culture through the medium of Welsh has improved in its inclusivity over the years. But I think there is a long way to go to be more inclusive on a Welsh level, or on an international level. I think that's another important element, to realise that diverse communities within the citizenship of Wales are also a transition towards the whole international sphere. That has always been our tradition, in a way.
Welsh: Cefnogi digwyddiadau ydy'r peth pwysig - digwyddiadau wedi eu trefnu'n gymunedol, nid ceisio darparu ar gyfer pobl. Cefnogi diwygiadau a digwyddiadau sydd yn rhoi cyfle i bobl gyfranogi ydy'r peth pwysig. Rhaid i hwnna ddigwydd o fewn cymuned neu ddigwydd o fewn ardal arbennig o fywyd neu grŵp ieithyddol arbennig. Dwi'n credu ein bod ni wedi gwella, os caf i ddweud, neu mae'r diwylliant trwy gyfrwng y Gymraeg wedi gwella yn ei gynhwysedd dros y blynyddoedd. Ond, mae yna ffordd bellach i fynd eto, dwi'n meddwl, i fod yn gynhwysol yn Gymreig, neu yn rhyngwladol, oherwydd mae honno'n elfen bwysig arall hefyd, i sylweddoli bod cymunedau amrywiol o fewn dinasyddiaeth Cymru hefyd yn bont tuag at yr holl fyd rhyngwladol. Dyna ydy'n traddodiad ni wedi bod erioed, mewn ffordd.
English: In terms of Fusion - what is Fusion in Welsh? Cyfuno. In terms of Fusion, what do you think the major organisations, or small organisations, could be doing in order to collaborate with people within their communities when they design the cultural activities provided for those communities?
Welsh: O ran Fusion - beth ydy Fusion yn Gymraeg? Cyfuno. O ran hwnna yn arbennig, beth ydych chi'n meddwl y gall sefydliadau mawr fod yn ei wneud, neu sefydliadau bach, er mwyn cydweithio â phobl mewn cymunedau pan fyddan nhw'n dylunio'r gwaith celfyddydol sy'n cael ei ddarparu ar gyfer y cymunedau hynny?
English: We do provide substantial funding for this programme. It emanates, of course, from the report prepared by Baroness Kay Andrews for the Welsh Government, and the projects that have emerged from Fusion are all assessed to see how effective they are as a means of reaching different communities. Anything to add to that?
Welsh: Dŷn ni yn darparu cyllid sylweddol tuag at y rhaglen yma. Mae'r rhaglen yn deillio, wrth gwrs, allan o'r adroddiad a baratowyd gan y Farwnes Kay Andrews ar gyfer y Llywodraeth, ac mae'r projectau sydd yn dilyn Cyfuno i gyd yn cael eu hasesu i weld beth yw ei heffeithlonrwydd nhw fel ffyrdd o gyrraedd cymunedau gwahanol. Ti eisiau ychwanegu rhywbeth fanna?
English: Lesley-Ann Kerr wants to come in quickly, if that's okay.
Welsh: Mae Lesley-Ann Kerr eisiau dod mewn yn glou, os yw hynna'n iawn.
English: In your evidence - just to continue with one question on this - you say that an evaluation of Fusion is coming out in June, so could you just explain what work you've undertaken in terms of working with people who've taken part in the scheme to come to conclusions in your final evaluation?
Welsh: Yn eich tystiolaeth - jest i barhau ag un cwestiwn gyda hwn - dŷch chi'n dweud bod gwerthusiad o Cyfuno yn dod mas ym mis Mehefin, felly a allech chi jest esbonio i ni pa waith dŷch chi wedi'i wneud o ran gweithio gyda phobl sydd wedi cymryd rhan yn y cynllun i ddod at gasgliadau yn eich gwerthusiad terfynol?
English: Well, I don't think the evaluation is to be published in June. We are working on the evaluation and as soon as that work is completed we can share it with you.
Welsh: Wel, dwi ddim yn meddwl bod y gwerthusiad yn dod allan ym mis Mehefin. Dŷn ni'n gweithio ar y gwerthusiad, a chyn gynted ag y bydd y gwaith wedi'i gwblhau, allwn ni ei rannu fo efo chi.
English: I received something from the researchers that said that something would come to us - not to us, but to the public - in June. What's that, then? Is that wrong?
Welsh: Fe wnes i gael rhywbeth gan yr ymchwilwyr a oedd yn dweud bod yna werthusiad yn mynd i ddod atom ni - sori, dim atom ni; at y cyhoedd - ym mis Mehefin. Beth ydy hynny, te? A ydy hynny'n anghywir?
English: Just before moving on to Delyth Jewell, I wanted to ask about your response on the Ofcom fund. We've heard from many of the community radio stations that they have applied, and because it's a British system, they're not always successful in gaining that funding. They had said that they would wish to have that fund from Welsh Government reopened, because that had helped them in particular in the past. As a result of that, would you not look into this definition of 'strong case' in terms of reopening the fund, as there is a demand for it in the sector?
Welsh: Jest cyn symud ymlaen at Delyth Jewell, dwi jest eisiau gofyn ynglŷn â'ch ateb ar gronfa Ofcom. Dŷn ni wedi clywed gan lot o'r gorsafoedd radio cymunedol eu bod nhw wedi ceisio am hynny, ac oherwydd ei bod yn system Brydeinig, dŷn nhw ddim wastad yn llwyddiannus yn ennill yr arian hynny. Maen nhw wedi dweud eu bod nhw eisiau i gronfa Llywodraeth Cymru gael ei hailagor, gan bod hynny wedi'u helpu nhw yn wefreiddiol yn y gorffennol. Yn sgil hynny, oni wnewch chi o leiaf edrych i mewn i beth yw'r diffiniad yma o 'achos cryf' i ailagor y gronfa, gan bod yna ofyn amdano yn y sector?
English: Well, I will see what evidence you as a committee produce, but I do believe that it is the responsibility of Ofcom. I'm more than happy to discuss this with them, and I do have regular discussions with Ofcom and we have a more direct relationship now with our appointment to the Ofcom board, which has at last been confirmed in David Jones. Therefore I will discuss this issue with Ofcom. Our relationship with Ofcom was not satisfactory in the past, and that was for reasons that weren't to do with us, but we won't pursue that at the moment. But, the situation is improved and I am surprised that people have told you that Ofcom is a British body, because it serves the whole of the UK and we need to ensure that the Ofcom consultative committee for Wales deals with that issue. And that's where the message should be conveyed.
Welsh: Wel, mi wnaf i weld pa dystiolaeth y gwnewch chi ei gynhyrchu fel pwyllgor, ond dwi yn credu mai cyfrifoldeb Ofcom ydy hyn a dwi'n hapus iawn i drafod y mater. Dwi'n trafod yn gyson gydag Ofcom ac mae gyda ni berthynas mwy uniongyrchol rŵan gyda'n penodiad ni ar fwrdd Ofcom, sydd o'r diwedd wedi cael ei gadarnhau yn David Jones, ac felly mi fydda i'n trafod y mater yma gydag Ofcom. Doedd ein perthynas ni gydag Ofcom ddim yn foddhaol am resymau nad oedd a wnelo â ni, ond awn ni ddim ar ôl hynny. Ond, mi fydd y sefyllfa yn gwella ac mi fydd - . Dwi'n synnu bod pobl wedi dweud wrthych chi bod Ofcom yn Brydeinig, oherwydd mae Ofcom yn gwasanaethu'r Deyrnas Unedig yn gyfan, ac os nad ydyn nhw, yna mae eisiau sicrhau bod pwyllgor ymgynghorol Cymru Ofcom yn delio â'r materion yma. Dyna ydy'r lle i anfon y neges yna.
English: Well, no - that is, that they're competing with community radio from across the whole of the UK. That's what I was trying to say in that question. Delyth Jewell.
Welsh: Wel, na - hynny yw, eu bod nhw'n cystadlu gyda radio cymunedol o dros Brydain oll. Dyna roeddwn i'n trio ei ddweud yn y cwestiwn hynny. Delyth Jewell.
English: Okay. Just on the same theme of news, we had some sort of idea that S4C is going to reduce news coverage, not this year, but next year, and on Friday nights, perhaps, we are hearing that there will be less news. Does the Government have a view on that, if those changes happen, and what sort of input would you have into that process?
Welsh: Ocê. Jest ar yr un thema o newyddion, gwnaethon ni gael rhyw fath o syniad bod S4C yn mynd i leihau newyddion, nid yn y flwyddyn yma, ond y flwyddyn nesa, ac ar nosweithiau Gwener, efallai, dŷn ni'n clywed, bydd llai o newyddion. Oes barn gyda'r Llywodraeth ynglŷn â hynny, os bydd y newidiadau hynny yn digwydd, a beth fyddech chi'n cael o ran mewnbwn i mewn i'r broses hynny?