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English: I don't intend to move amendment 60.
Welsh: Nid ydw i'n bwriadu cynnig gwelliant 60.
English: With the consent of the Assembly, therefore, we won't move to a vote on amendment 60.
Welsh: Gyda chydsyniad y Cynulliad, felly, ni fyddwn ni'n pleidleisio ar welliant 60.
English: The question is that amendment 19 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, no abstentions, and 27 against. Therefore, the amendment is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 19? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 24, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Gwrthodwyd y gwelliant.
English: The question is that amendment 20 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, no abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, the amendment is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 20? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 24, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Gwrthodwyd y gwelliant.
English: The question is that amendment 42 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 42 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 42? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 42.
English: The next group and the final group is the group relating to young persons lacking capacity. Amendment 67 is the lead amendment and I call on the Cabinet Secretary to move the amendment.
Welsh: Y grŵp nesaf a'r grŵp olaf yw'r grŵp sy'n ymwneud â phersonau ifanc nad oes ganddynt alluedd. Gwelliant 67 yw'r prif welliant ac rydw i'n galw ar Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet i gynnig y gwelliant.
English: Thank you, Presiding Officer. As you say, this is the last group of amendments and the last amendment that we will discuss this afternoon. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank both Darren Millar and Llyr Gruffydd for their contribution to the debate this afternoon. I think we've been able to make real progress and have added value to the legislation by the engagement that we've had across the Chamber. I would ask Members to support amendment 67. Its purpose is to put it beyond doubt that the regulations that must be made in respect of young people who lack capacity may include reference to a young person's parent or the representative of the parent. It would allow the regulations to provide for the involvement of parents of young people and their representatives in an appropriate way. This would enable the regulations to reflect recent and evolving case law in respect of parental involvement where young people of 16 or 17 lack capacity, including a very, very recent decision at the Court of Appeal, which has led the tabling of this amendment to sit outside the normal processes. But, given the decision by the Court of Appeal, it was necessary to act accordingly, and I hope Members will support the amendment.
Welsh: Diolch i chi, Llywydd. Fel y dywedwch, hwn yw'r grŵp olaf o welliannau a'r gwelliant olaf y byddwn yn ei drafod y prynhawn yma. Hoffwn achub ar y cyfle hwn i ddiolch i Darren Millar a Llyr Gruffydd am eu cyfraniad i'r ddadl y prynhawn yma. Credaf ein bod wedi gallu gwneud cynnydd gwirioneddol ac wedi ychwanegu gwerth at y ddeddfwriaeth drwy'r ymgysylltu a gawsom ar draws y Siambr. Rwyf yn gofyn i'r Aelodau gefnogi gwelliant 67. Ei ddiben yw rhoi tu hwnt i amheuaeth y caiff y rheoliadau y mae'n rhaid eu gwneud ar gyfer pobl ifanc nad oes ganddynt alluedd gynnwys cyfeiriad at riant person ifanc neu gynrychiolydd ar ran y rhiant. Byddai'n caniatáu i'r rheoliadau ddarparu ar gyfer cyfranogiad rhieni pobl ifanc a'u cynrychiolwyr mewn ffordd briodol. Byddai hyn yn galluogi'r rheoliadau i adlewyrchu'r gyfraith achosion ddiweddar ac sy'n datblygu o ran cynnwys rhieni pan nad oes gan bobl ifanc 16 neu 17 oed alluedd, gan gynnwys penderfyniad diweddar iawn, iawn yn y Llys Apêl, sydd wedi arwain at gyflwyno'r gwelliant hwn i fod y tu allan i'r prosesau arferol. Ond, o ystyried y penderfyniad gan y Llys Apêl, roedd angen gweithredu yn unol â hynny, a gobeithiaf y bydd yr Aelodau yn cefnogi'r gwelliant.
English: We have no speakers, so I'm sure that the Cabinet Secretary doesn't wish to reply. The question is that amendment 67 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 67 is agreed.
Welsh: Nid oes siaradwyr, felly rydw i'n siŵr nad yw'r Ysgrifennydd Cabinet eisiau ymateb. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 67? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbynnir gwelliant 67.
English: The question is that amendment 43 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] We'll proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 30, no abstentions, 20 against. Therefore, the amendment is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 43? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 30, neb yn ymatal, 20 yn erbyn. Ac felly, derbyniwyd y gwelliant.
English: The question is that amendment 44 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 44 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 44? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 44.
English: Cabinet Secretary, amendment 45.
Welsh: Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, gwelliant 45.
English: The question is that amendment 45 be agreed. Does any Member object? Amendment 45 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 45? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 45.
English: Cabinet Secretary, amendment 46.
Welsh: Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, gwelliant 46.
English: The question is that amendment 46 be agreed. Does any Member object? Amendment 46 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 46? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 46.
English: The question is the amendment 21 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] We'll proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, no abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, amendment 21 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 21? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 24, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Felly, gwrthodwyd gwelliant 21.
English: The question is that amendment 22 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] We'll proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, no abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, the amendment is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 22? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Symudwn i bleidlais electronig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 24, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Gwrthodwyd gwelliant 22.
English: Yes, I move.
Welsh: Ydw, rwy'n cynnig.
English: The question is that amendment 23 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] We'll proceed to a vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, no abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, the amendment is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 23? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Pleidlais, felly. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 24, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Gwrthodwyd y gwelliant.
English: The question is that amendment 47 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 47 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 47? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 47.
English: The question is that amendment 63 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 63 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 63? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 63.
English: The question is that amendment 48 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 48 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 48? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 48.
English: Cabinet Secretary, amendment 49.
Welsh: Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, gwelliant 49.
English: If amendment 49 is not agreed to, amendments 50 and 51 will fall. The question is that amendment 49 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 49 is agreed.
Welsh: Os na dderbynnir gwelliant 49, bydd gwelliannau 50 a 51 yn methu. Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 49? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 49.
English: Cabinet Secretary, amendment 50.
Welsh: Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, gwelliant 50.
English: The question is that amendment 50 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 50 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 50? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 50.
English: Cabinet Secretary, amendment 51.
Welsh: Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, gwelliant 51.
English: The question is that amendment 51 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 51 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 51? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 51.
English: Cabinet Secretary, amendment 52.
Welsh: Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, gwelliant 52.
English: The question is that amendment 52 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 52 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 52? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 52.
English: Cabinet Secretary, amendment 53.
Welsh: Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, gwelliant 53.
English: The question is that amendment 53 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 53 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 53? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 53.
English: The question is that amendment 25 be agreed to. Does any Member object? Amendment 25 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 25? A oes unrhyw wrthwynebiad? Derbyniwyd gwelliant 25.
English: We have, therefore, reached the end of our Stage 3 consideration of the Additional Learning Needs and Education Tribunal (Wales) Bill. I declare that all sections and Schedules of the Bill are deemed agreed, and that concludes today's proceedings.
Welsh: Rydym ni felly wedi cyrraedd diwedd ein hystyriaeth o Gyfnod 3 y Bil Anghenion Dysgu Ychwanegu a'r Tribiwnlys Addysg (Cymru). Datganaf y bernir pob adran o'r Bil yma a phob Atodlen wedi'u derbyn, a daw hynny â'r trafodion am heddiw i ben.
English: Thank you, Chair. In the same manner, may I also congratulate Hannah Blythyn on her promotion? Along the lines of what were just discussing in terms of Brexit and new responsibilities - things that have been funded by Europe before, but not in the future - could you explain how the coastal risk management programme is going to be funded?
Welsh: Diolch, Gadeirydd. Yn yr un modd, a gaf i hefyd longyfarch Hannah Blythyn ar ei dyrchafiad? I ddilyn yr un trywydd â beth rydym ni wedi bod yn sôn amdano rŵan yn nhermau Brexit a chyfrifoldebau newydd - pethau sydd wedi cael eu hariannu gan Ewrop o'r blaen ond nid yn y dyfodol - a allwch chi egluro sut y caiff y rhaglen rheoli perygl arfordirol newydd ei hariannu, os gwelwch yn dda?
English: Thank you, Chair. Just turning briefly, because I'm aware of time, Chair, to the marine and fisheries budget, and more specifically whether the extra £0.5 million is sufficient to address the extensive work of the marine and fisheries division. Can you explain how much funding will be available for the different elements of this division's work, for example implementing the marine plan and identifying and managing marine protected areas?
Welsh: Diolch, Gadeirydd. Jest i droi yn fyr, achos rwyf yn ymwybodol o amser, Gadeirydd, at gyllideb môr a physgodfeydd, ac yn benodol felly p'un ai yw'r £0.5 miliwn ychwanegol yn ddigon i fynd i'r afael â gwaith helaeth is-adran y môr a physgodfeydd. A allwch chi egluro faint yn union o gyllid fydd ar gael ar gyfer gwahanol elfennau o waith yr is-adran yma, er enghraifft, gweithredu'r cynllun morol a nodi a rheoli ardaloedd morol gwarchodedig?
English: Thank you for that. I'm sure, speaking as a champion of the grey seal - we always have these discussions on the rocks down in Rhossili on the Gower peninsula - they'll be very pleased to hear of all the work that's going on. But, just one technical issue to finish: could you explain the process to identify departmental priorities to support the work of reallocating from the rural development plan technical assistance budget expenditure line to the marine and fisheries budget expenditure line, please?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr am hynny. Rwyf yn siŵr, yn siarad fel pencampwr rhywogaeth y morlo llwyd - ac rydym wastad yn cael y trafodaethau yma ar y creigiau lawr yn Rhosili ar benrhyn Gŵyr - y byddan nhw'n falch iawn o glywed yr holl waith sydd yn mynd ymlaen. Ond, jest un mater technegol i orffen: a allwch chi esbonio'r broses dan sylw i nodi blaenoriaethau adrannol er mwyn cefnogi'r gwaith o ailddyrannu o linell wariant yn y gyllideb cymorth technegol y cynllun datblygu gwledig i linell wariant yn y gyllideb y môr a physgodfeydd, os gwelwch chi'n dda?
English: Good morning, and welcome to this meeting of the Culture, Welsh Language and Communications Committee. You may need the headsets.
Welsh: Bore da a chroeso i gyfarfod y Pwyllgor Diwylliant, y Gymraeg a Chyfathrebu. Rydych chi angen yr headsets, efallai.
English: So, we will proceed immediately to our inquiry, which has begun already, as a committee, into the historic environment. We have evidence session 3. So, I'd like to extend a warm welcome to you as representatives. Could you introduce yourselves, starting with Christian here?
Welsh: Felly, gwnawn ni symud ymlaen yn syth i'r ymchwiliad sydd wedi bod yn cael ei gynnal yn barod gan y pwyllgor yma ar yr amgylchedd hanesyddol. Mae gennym ni sesiwn dystiolaeth 3. Felly, croeso cynnes i chi, gynrychiolwyr. A wnewch chi gyflwyno eich hunain, yn dechrau efo Christian yn fan hyn?
English: Do I need to press the button?
Welsh: Iawn. A oes eisiau i fi wasgu hwn?
English: And Gethin Rhys, Cytûn - Churches Together in Wales policy officer, and in some sense, therefore, I represent the denominations that are not here.
Welsh: A Gethin Rhys, swyddog polisi Cytûn - Eglwysi Ynghyd yng Nghymru, ac ar ryw ystyr, felly, yn cynrychioli'r enwadau sydd ddim yma.
English: Thank you very much. We will begin, therefore, with the Historic Environment (Wales) Act 2016, which was passed in March 2016. The committee has an interest in seeing how the consultation in relation to that Act is taking and has taken place and the overall impact of the Act. So, I will begin - well, it doesn't matter who. So -
Welsh: Iawn. Diolch yn fawr. Cychwynnwn ni felly efo Deddf yr Amgylchedd Hanesyddol (Cymru) 2016, a gafodd ei phasio ym Mawrth 2016. Mae gan y pwyllgor ddiddordeb mewn gweld sut mae'r ymgynghori ynghylch y Ddeddf yna'n digwydd ac effaith gyffredinol y Ddeddf. Gwnaf i ddechrau efo - nid oes ots. Felly -
English: May I turn to Cytûn, therefore, and ask the same question? In terms of the consultation, to begin with - has that been effective?
Welsh: A gaf i droi at Cytûn, felly, a gofyn yr un cwestiwn? Yr ymgynghori, i ddechrau - a ydy hynny wedi bod yn effeithiol?
English: Yes, it's been very effective, and one of the upshots of that was to establish the forum of places of worship for Wales, which has continued, so there is consultation not just around the wording of the Act - and that was very important, and we appreciated that - but that it is ongoing in terms of the issues that still need to be discussed. That has deepened the relationship between ourselves and Cadw, and we're very pleased about that.
Welsh: Ydy, mae wedi bod yn effeithiol iawn, ac un o ganlyniadau hynny oedd sefydlu'r fforwm addoldai hanesyddol i Gymru, sydd wedi parhau, fel bod yna ymgynghoriad nid yn unig o gwmpas geiriad y Ddeddf - ac roedd hynny'n bwysig, ac roeddem ni'n gwerthfawrogi hynny - ond ei fod yn parhau ynglŷn â'r materion sy'n parhau sydd angen eu trafod. Mae hynny wedi dyfnhau'r berthynas rhyngom ni a Chadw, ac rŷm ni'n falch iawn o hynny.
English: And what about the overall impact of that Act?
Welsh: A beth am effaith cyffredinol y Ddeddf?
English: I agree with Alex. It's difficult to put one's finger on it in terms of any major difference apart from that difference in mindset and thinking. But the denominations using the secular system and those using the exempt system - I get the impression that they haven't had to change their modus operandi because of such and such a clause in the Act. But the improvements in relationships and the improved understanding of the needs of places of worship has, I believe, brought about a better environment and decision making on these individual buildings.
Welsh: Rwy'n cytuno ag Alex. Mae'n anodd rhoi bys arno, mewn gwirionedd, o ran bod yna ryw wahaniaeth mawr wedi bod heblaw'r gwahaniaeth yna mewn meddylfryd. Ond i'r enwadau sy'n defnyddio'r system seciwlar, a'r rhai sydd yn defnyddio'r system exempt - rydw i'n cael yr argraff nad ydyn nhw wedi gorfod newid eu ffyrdd o weithredu oherwydd y cymal yma neu'r cymal yna yn y Ddeddf. Ond mae'r gwelliant yn y berthynas, a'r gwell dealltwriaeth, rydw i'n credu, ynglŷn ag anghenion addoldai, wedi cynhyrchu gwell awyrgylch o ran gwneud y penderfyniadau ynglŷn ag adeiladau unigol.
English: And the Baptist union? Do you agree with that?
Welsh: A ydy undeb y Bedyddwyr yn cytuno â hynny?
English: Yes, we would agree with what Alex and Gethin have said, and that there is an opportunity for us to collaborate more closely, and that is certainly a pleasant experience.
Welsh: Buaswn i'n cytuno'n union â beth mae Alex a Gethin wedi dweud, a bod cyfle i gydweithio yn agosach - mae hynny'n sicr yn brofiad braf.
English: Thank you. There is a view out there that there may be a need for consolidation Bill to bring these things together. What is your view about that suggestion? I'll begin with Alex, perhaps.
Welsh: Diolch. Mae yna farn, efallai, fod angen Bil i ddod â'r materion yma ynghyd - consolidation Bill. Beth ydy'ch barn chi am hynny? Fe wnaf i ddechrau efo Alex, efallai.
English: So, you would put the emphasis on the guidance rather than the content of the legislation. What is your view of the guidance that has been published already?
Welsh: Felly, rydych chi'n rhoi'r pwyslais ar y canllawiau yn fwy na chynnwys y Ddeddf. Beth ydy'ch barn chi am y canllawiau sydd wedi cael eu cyhoeddi yn barod?
English: I believe that they are a significant improvement. Once again, Cadw has taken the opportunity to consult very broadly on all new pieces of guidance, and we've had an input to all of those consultations, I think. Many of our comments were taken on board and had an impact on the final wording. Once again, that constructive and ongoing relationship with Cadw is extremely important in ensuring that that continues. But I truly believe that the documentation available now is far easier for people on the ground to have to make decisions on historic places of worship to understand and read them without them being experts in architecture. We do greatly priase the work undertaken by Cadw in this area. It's a significant improvement.
Welsh: Rydw i'n credu eu bod nhw'n welliant sylweddol. Unwaith eto, mae Cadw wedi achub ar y cyfle i ymgynghori yn eang iawn ynglŷn â phob canllaw newydd, ac rŷm ni wedi rhoi mewnbwn, rydw i'n credu, i bob un o'r ymgynghoriadau yna. Mae llawer o'n sylwadau ni wedi effeithio ar y geiriad terfynol. Unwaith eto, mae'r berthynas adeiladol a pharhaus yma gyda Cadw yn hynod o bwysig i sicrhau bod hynny'n parhau. Ond rydw i wir yn credu bod y dogfennau sydd ar gael nawr yn llawer iawn rhwyddach i bobl ar lawr gwlad sy'n gorfod gwneud penderfyniadau ynglŷn ag addoldai hanesyddol i'w darllen a'u deall, heb eu bod nhw'n arbenigwyr mewn pensaernïaeth. Rŷm ni yn mawrygu'r gwaith mae Cadw wedi'i wneud yn y maes yma. Mae'n welliant sylweddol iawn.
English: Before we move on into greater detail, is there something general that this committee should be informed about, or are you content with how things have been arranged in terms of the implementation of the Act by now? Excellent. We will move to the protection for listed buildings and scheduled monuments, and the Ecclesiastical Exemption (Listed Buildings and Conservation Areas) Order 1994, which is an important exemption. There's an intention to review the ecclesiastical exemption Order and the guidance associated with it. What are the implications of that?
Welsh: Cyn i ni fynd i fanylder, a oes yna unrhyw beth cyffredinol ddylai'r pwyllgor yma wybod amdano fo, ynteu a ydych chi'n hapus efo fel mae'r drefn wedi digwydd ac fel mae'r Ddeddf yn gweithredu erbyn hyn? Ardderchog. Fe drown ni at ddiogelu adeiladau rhestredig a henebion cofrestredig, a'r Gorchymyn Eithriad Eglwysig (Adeiladau Rhestredig ac Ardaloedd Cadwraeth) 1994, sydd yn eithriad pwysig. Mae yna fwriad i adolygu'r Gorchymyn eithriad eglwysig a'r canllawiau sy'n gysylltiedig ag o. Beth ydy oblygiadau hynny?
English: Do you have a view on that?
Welsh: A oes gennych chi farn ar hynny?
English: I would agree entirely with that and, of course, because the exemption is in subordinate legislation, the main legislation had to be passed first. There was an effort to place some issues surrounding places of worship in the main Act, but those amendments failed. If they had passed, the subordinate legislation would be different, quite naturally. But once again, we were part of the consultation on that at the time, and we do understand, although it is slightly frustrating, the delay that has been. We do understand that, for practical reasons, it couldn't be any different, if truth be told.
Welsh: Byddwn i'n cytuno'n llwyr â hynny, ac, wrth gwrs, gan mai is-ddeddfwriaeth yw'r drefn exempt, roedd rhaid i'r brif Ddeddf gael ei phasio gyntaf. Fe fuodd yna ymgais i roi rhai pethau ynglŷn ag adeiladau eglwysig yn y brif Ddeddf, ond fe fethodd y gwelliannau hynny. Petaent wedi pasio, byddai'r is-ddeddfwriaeth yn wahanol, yn naturiol. Ond unwaith eto, fe fuom ni'n rhan o'r ymgynghori ynglŷn â hynny ar y pryd, ac rydym yn deall, er ei fod ychydig bach yn rhwystredig, yr oedi sydd wedi bod. Rydym yn deall, am resymau ymarferol, na allai fod yn wahanol, mewn gwirionedd.
English: The majority of people wouldn't be aware that this ecclesiastical exemption was in existence, probably. So, is it advantageous for it to continue, or would it be better if it were to disappear and for the church bodies to be treated like everyone else, in a way? What are the advantages of continuing with this exemption?
Welsh: Byddai'r rhan fwyaf o bobl ddim yn ymwybodol bod yr eithriad eglwysig yma yn bodoli, mae'n debyg. A ydy o'n fanteisiol ei fod o'n parhau, neu a fyddai o'n fwy manteisiol petai o'n diflannu a bod y cyrff eglwysig yn cael eu trin fel pawb arall, mewn ffordd? Beth ydy manteision cynnal yr eithriad?
English: Certainly, there is a benefit for the taxpayer, isn't there, that this is dealt with? In terms of the Baptists, there is a committee administered by the Baptist Union of Great Britain, and they administrate it on behalf of those churches. But it only impacts on a small percentage of churches, because they have to have been listed. The union must also act as a trustee, and it only relates to around 20 of 350 churches.
Welsh: Yn sicr, mae yna fantais, onid oes, i'r trethdalwr fod hyn yn cael ei ddelio ag e? O ran y Bedyddwyr, mae yna bwyllgor sy'n cael ei weinyddu gan Undeb Bedyddwyr Prydain, a nhw wedyn sy'n ei weinyddu fe ar ran yr eglwysi hynny. Ond mae ond yn effeithio ar ganran fechan iawn o'r eglwysi gydag undeb y Bedyddwyr, oherwydd mae'n rhaid eu bod nhw wedi cael eu rhestru. Mae'n rhaid bod yr undeb hefyd yn gweithredu fel ymddiriedolwr, ac felly dim ond i ryw 20 allan o ryw 350 o eglwysi y mae'n berthnasol.
English: But it is a system that depends on volunteers to a large extent, and therefore do they have the right skills and sufficient training supporting them and the capacity to make decisions?
Welsh: Ond mae'n system sydd yn ddibynnol ar wirfoddolwyr i raddau helaeth, ac a oes ganddyn nhw ddigon o sgiliau a digon o hyfforddiant tu ôl iddyn nhw a'r gallu i wneud y penderfyniadau?