English: Diolch, Deputy Presiding Officer. Thank you, Minister. We wholeheartedly support your statement from these benches, as we share your sentiments, your aims and objectives that you have outlined in your statement. Lowering the impact on the environment and fighting climate change needs to be at the heart of everything that we do now. We all have a responsibility to play our part to leave the world in the best condition that we possibly can for future generations, so the aim of making our children and young people's school environments net zero is absolutely the right thing to do, as is increasing their input in their developments. The additional costs are significant, though, and to achieve becoming net-zero schools, you will need an extra 10 or 15 per cent on top of the cost of building the school anyway. We have seen really great commitments to the aim of net zero from our local authorities, and as a current councillor in Monmouthshire County Council, I should declare that, but I know that Monmouthshire County Council have shown their absolute commitment to achieving net zero by committing themselves to a net-zero carbon school in Abergavenny. But they're obviously going to struggle, in this current climate, to afford this ambition. Do you believe, Minister, that local authorities should have to struggle when their commitment to our shared objective is clear? If this Government is truly committed to the objectives and desires set out in this statement, surely it is the Welsh Government that needs to cover all costs to boost new builds to being net zero and to enable schools to adapt to achieve the same goal. You say within your statement that you understand that achieving this goal may impact the overall costs of projects, with the significant costs that achieving net zero has, I think this, perhaps, is an understatement, Minister. While your plans are ambitious, they are also desirable, but they will be destined to fail, Minister, without making additional funding available to schools and local authorities for the biodiversity projects and electric vehicle charging facilities among the myriad of other changes you expect to be made in any new plans. On top of the extra costs for schools to become net zero, establishing new baseline requirements from 2022 onwards will all come with a cost attached. Who is going to foot this bill? You say that you're expanding the net-zero carbon pilot, but how long for? Only for the next two years and this current wave under band B, or will this continue through band C at 100 per cent? And will there be a band C? I think we need a bit more clarity on that, Minister, please. And when will you be in a position to set out what your plans will be for that band C if it is to continue so that local authorities are able to prepare? Band B of twenty-first century schools, of course, was announced in 2017. Local authorities submitted their strategic outline plans for the schools they wanted to build or renovate between 2019-24. Net zero was not even then amongst the terms and conditions, and many of these schools have now been completed. And while I agree with you that those in development should be now net zero, the reality is that this will add an extra 10 to 15 per cent on top of the cost, as I've said, which is quite a hefty price tag. So, can you confirm, Minister, whether the Welsh Government will cover those additional costs? You've announced also that new schools will be net zero by the month after next. What about schools that are already under construction? These schools have been in development for years. Their plans can't change just on a whim, however newsworthy and welcome such a statement today might be. Whilst some schools benefit from the twenty-first century schools programme, the percentage of the overall estate is really small still. So, Minister, in order to achieve our joint aims, all schools need adaptations and money to become net zero. So, how does the Minister envisage a programme to help more schools become energy efficient - retrofitting old boilers, installing LED lighting and installing sources of power? Working with our children and young people on these projects is absolutely fundamental to success, as you've outlined, and I totally agree with you on that, and it's fantastic that sustainability is embedded in our new curriculum. I'd welcome the idea for a sustainable schools challenge fund that you've just announced and its intentions, but how much money is going to be in this fund, Minister? Roughly how many schools will be able to take up the fund, as isn't this something you want all schools to achieve, not just the few that, perhaps, will benefit from achieving it? Although this sounds great, we need more detail, and I look forward to that detail, going forward. Some of the schools that have come out of this joint collaborative working with local authorities, the WLGA, schools and colleges across Wales have produced some incredible schools. I visited Monmouth, in Caldicot Comprehensive School, in my colleague Peter Fox's constituency recently, and they're really impressive. Is there going to be extra funding for them to now develop further to get that net-zero status? It's not fair to, once again, issue directives from this Welsh Government at this late stage in the scheme and put new financial burdens on local authorities and schools. So, I'm hoping that you can now confirm to me, Minister, that your objectives laid out in this statement will actually, even though you haven't stated it, be backed up with moneys to cover all costs to cover all aims and objectives. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. Diolch i chi, Gweinidog. Rydym yn llwyr gefnogi eich datganiad o'r meinciau hyn, gan ein bod yn rhannu eich teimladau, eich nodau a'ch amcanion yr ydych wedi'u hamlinellu yn eich datganiad. Mae angen i ostwng yr effaith ar yr amgylchedd ac ymladd newid hinsawdd fod wrth wraidd popeth a wnawn nawr. Mae gan bob un ohonom ni gyfrifoldeb i chwarae ein rhan i adael y byd yn y cyflwr gorau posibl ar gyfer cenedlaethau'r dyfodol, felly'r nod o wneud amgylcheddau ysgol ein plant a'n pobl ifanc yn sero-net yw'r peth iawn i'w wneud, felly hefyd cynyddu eu mewnbwn yn eu datblygiadau. Fodd bynnag, mae'r costau ychwanegol yn sylweddol, ac er mwyn dod yn ysgolion sero-net, bydd angen 10 neu 15 y cant yn ychwanegol arnoch ar ben cost adeiladu'r ysgol beth bynnag. Rydym wedi gweld ymrwymiadau gwirioneddol wych i'r nod o sero-net gan ein hawdurdodau lleol, ac fel cynghorydd presennol yng Nghyngor Sir Fynwy, dylwn ddatgan hynny, ond gwn fod Cyngor Sir Fynwy wedi dangos ei ymrwymiad llwyr i sicrhau sero-net drwy ymrwymo i ysgol garbon sero-net yn y Fenni. Ond mae'n amlwg ei fod yn mynd i wynebu brwydr, yn yr hinsawdd bresennol, i fforddio'r uchelgais hwn. A ydych yn credu, Gweinidog, y dylai awdurdodau lleol orfod wynebu trafferthion pan fydd eu hymrwymiad i'n hamcan cyffredin yn glir? Os yw'r Llywodraeth hon wedi gwir ymrwymo i'r amcanion a'r dymuniadau a nodir yn y datganiad hwn, onid Llywodraeth Cymru ddylai dalu'r holl gostau i hybu adeiladau newydd sero-net ac i alluogi ysgolion i addasu i gyflawni'r un nod? Dywedwch yn eich datganiad eich bod yn deall y gallai cyflawni'r nod hwn effeithio ar gostau cyffredinol prosiectau, gyda'r costau sylweddol a ddaw yn sgil cyflawni sero-net, credaf fod hyn, efallai, yn danddatganiad, Gweinidog. Er bod eich cynlluniau'n uchelgeisiol, maen nhw hefyd yn ddymunol, ond byddan nhw'n methu, Gweinidog, os na sicrheir bod cyllid ychwanegol ar gael i ysgolion ac awdurdodau lleol ar gyfer y prosiectau bioamrywiaeth a'r cyfleusterau gwefru cerbydau trydan ymhlith y llu o newidiadau eraill yr ydych yn disgwyl eu gwneud mewn unrhyw gynlluniau newydd. Ar ben y costau ychwanegol i gael ysgolion yn sero-net, bydd sefydlu gofynion sylfaenol newydd o 2022 ymlaen i gyd yn dod gyda chost ynghlwm. Pwy sy'n mynd i dalu am hyn? Dywedwch eich bod yn ehangu'r cynllun treialu carbon sero-net, ond am ba hyd? Dim ond am y ddwy flynedd nesaf a'r don bresennol hon o dan fand B, neu a fydd hyn yn parhau drwy fand C ar 100 y cant? Ac a fydd band C? Rwy'n credu bod arnom angen ychydig mwy o eglurder ynglŷn â hynny, Gweinidog, os gwelwch yn dda. A phryd y byddwch mewn sefyllfa i nodi beth fydd eich cynlluniau ar gyfer y band C hwnnw os yw am barhau fel y gall awdurdodau lleol baratoi? Cyhoeddwyd Band B o ysgolion yr unfed ganrif ar hugain, wrth gwrs, yn 2017. Cyflwynodd awdurdodau lleol eu cynlluniau amlinellol strategol ar gyfer yr ysgolion yr oeddent eisiau eu hadeiladu neu eu hadnewyddu rhwng 2019-24. Nid oedd sero-net hyd yn oed bryd hynny ymhlith y telerau ac amodau, ac mae llawer o'r ysgolion hyn bellach wedi'u cwblhau. Ac er fy mod yn cytuno â chi y dylai'r rhai sy'n cael eu datblygu fod yn sero-net erbyn hyn, y realiti yw y bydd hyn yn ychwanegu 10 i 15 y cant yn ychwanegol ar ben y gost, fel yr wyf wedi dweud, sy'n gost eithaf swmpus. Felly, a wnewch chi gadarnhau, Gweinidog, a fydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn talu'r costau ychwanegol hynny? Rydych chi hefyd wedi cyhoeddi y bydd ysgolion newydd yn sero-net erbyn y mis ar ôl nesaf. Beth am ysgolion sydd eisoes yn cael eu hadeiladu? Mae'r ysgolion hyn wedi bod yn cael eu datblygu ers blynyddoedd. Ni all eu cynlluniau newid ar fyr rybudd, ni waeth pa mor deilwng o sylw yw datganiad o'r fath heddiw, datganiad sydd i'w groesawu. Er bod rhai ysgolion yn elwa ar raglen ysgolion yr unfed ganrif ar hugain, mae canran yr ystad gyffredinol yn fach iawn o hyd. Felly, Gweinidog, er mwyn cyflawni ein nodau ar y cyd, mae angen addasiadau ac arian ar bob ysgol i ddod yn sero-net. Felly, sut y mae'r Gweinidog yn rhagweld rhaglen i helpu mwy o ysgolion i fod yn effeithlon o ran ynni, ôl-osod hen foeleri, gosod goleuadau LED a gosod ffynonellau ynni? Mae gweithio gyda'n plant a'n pobl ifanc ar y prosiectau hyn yn gwbl sylfaenol i lwyddiant, fel yr ydych wedi'i amlinellu, ac rwy'n cytuno'n llwyr â chi ar hynny, ac mae'n wych bod cynaliadwyedd yn rhan annatod o'n cwricwlwm newydd. Byddwn yn croesawu'r syniad am gronfa her ysgolion cynaliadwy yr ydych newydd ei chyhoeddi a'i bwriadau, ond faint o arian fydd yn y gronfa hon, Gweinidog? Yn fras faint o ysgolion fydd yn gallu manteisio ar y gronfa, oherwydd onid yw hyn yn rhywbeth yr ydych eisiau i bob ysgol ei gyflawni, nid dim ond yr ychydig a fydd, efallai, yn elwa ar ei gyflawni? Er bod hyn yn swnio'n wych, mae arnom angen mwy o fanylion, ac edrychaf ymlaen at y manylion hynny, wrth symud ymlaen. Mae rhai o'r ysgolion sydd wedi deillio o'r cydweithio hwn gydag awdurdodau lleol, CLlLC, ysgolion a cholegau ledled Cymru wedi cynhyrchu rhai ysgolion anhygoel. Ymwelais â Threfynwy, ag Ysgol Gyfun Cil-y-coed, yn etholaeth fy nghyd-Aelod Peter Fox yn ddiweddar, ac maen nhw'n wirioneddol drawiadol. A fydd cyllid ychwanegol iddyn nhw ddatblygu ymhellach i gael y statws sero-net hwnnw? Nid yw'n deg cyhoeddi cyfarwyddebau gan Lywodraeth Cymru unwaith eto yn ystod y cyfnod hwyr hwn yn y cynllun a rhoi beichiau ariannol newydd ar awdurdodau lleol ac ysgolion. Felly, rwy'n gobeithio y gallwch gadarnhau yn awr i mi, Gweinidog, y bydd eich amcanion a nodir yn y datganiad hwn mewn gwirionedd, er nad ydych wedi'i ddatgan, yn cael eu hategu gan arian i dalu'r holl gostau i dalu am bob nod ac amcan. Diolch.