English: Thank you for the very positive remarks with which you, Mr Reckless, opened your contribution, and for drawing attention quite rightly to the four harms of coronavirus. We should be reflecting on them all today. I thought he made some very interesting points about the way in which different countries across the globe, at different points, have had successful periods in their management of the virus, and yet the virus comes back in ways that manage to subvert the different defences that different governments have built. That has been a common experience, and it probably is a salutary thing to reflect on the limitations that any one - any one - government has had in being able to find a full set of successful measures. In relation to the points we came back to when we heard from Mr Reckless again, when I look back over the firebreak period, the thing that strikes me the most is that we were reopening society here in Wales at a time when we were unaware of the fact that the Kent variant was already making its way across the country to us. The additional transmissibility of that variant made a difference to the rate at which the flow of coronavirus happened in the post-firebreak period. The firebreak period itself, according to The Lancet, was the most successful in Wales of any part of the United Kingdom, because we embarked on that earlier than anywhere else and we went deeper than anywhere else, but we were facing a set of circumstances, as we came out of it, that we simply hadn't anticipated and didn't know about either. The Member's obsession with the border is absolutely not one that I share. I've tried to make the point all the way through that, for me, this is never a matter of the border; it's a matter of trying to make sure that we protect lower incidence areas from higher incidence areas wherever they may be, and that's how I will go on approaching this. It's never been for me a matter of England and Wales; it's a matter of trying to make sure that we don't reimport the virus into parts of Wales that have worked so hard and sacrificed so much to get those numbers under control. I absolutely want to welcome visitors from other parts of the United Kingdom back to Wales when it is safe to do so. At the moment, both the UK Government for England and the Scottish Government for Scotland, as well as the Northern Ireland Executive, don't regard it as safe for their citizens to travel. Now, when those things improve, then I very much look forward to welcoming people back to Wales, because then it will be safe to do so. And, as the Member will know, we have to take into account the sensibilities of those parts of Wales that haven't seen visitors for a long time, where the indigenous population is relatively low in numbers but swells greatly during the tourist season. So, we've got to think of all of that as well. I'm afraid the Member betrayed his own way of thinking, certainly, and, if he was accurately quoting the Prime Minister, then I'm afraid the Prime Minister's way of thinking as well. It is not for the Prime Minister to allow the directly elected Senedd here in Wales or the Parliament in Scotland to exercise the powers that are devolved to us. It is such a cast of mind that believes that we are somehow some sort of subsidiary body where the Prime Minister allows us to do certain things or not. I'm sure there were other ways in which the coronavirus crisis could have been approached, and the huge powers that were exercised would have had to have been exercised by somebody here in Wales. I believe it has been better for the decisions that affect people in Wales to be made by people in Wales elected by the people of Wales to make those decisions on their behalf. We are grown up enough to do it, and we don't need anybody else to tell us what we are allowed and not allowed to do.
Welsh: Diolch i chi am y sylwadau cadarnhaol iawn, Mr Reckless, ar ddechrau eich cyfraniad ac am dynnu sylw, a hynny'n gwbl briodol, at bedwar drwg coronafeirws. Fe ddylem ni i gyd fod yn myfyrio arnyn nhw heddiw. Roeddwn i'n credu ei fod wedi gwneud rhai pwyntiau diddorol iawn ynglŷn â'r ffordd y mae gwahanol wledydd ledled y byd, ar wahanol adegau, wedi gweld cyfnodau llwyddiannus o ran rheoli'r feirws, ac eto fe ddaeth y feirws yn ei ôl mewn ffyrdd sy'n llwyddo i danseilio'r gwahanol amddiffynfeydd a adeiladodd gwahanol lywodraethau. Mae hwnnw wedi bod yn brofiad cyffredin, ac mae'n debyg y byddai'n dda o beth ystyried y cyfyngiadau a brofodd unrhyw un - unrhyw un - lywodraeth o ran gallu dod o hyd i gyfres lawn o fesurau llwyddiannus. O ran y pwyntiau y daethom ni'n ôl atyn nhw pan glywsom ni gan Mr Reckless wedyn, wrth edrych nôl dros y cyfnod atal byr, yr hyn sy'n fy nharo i fwyaf yw ein bod ni wedi ailagor y gymdeithas yma yng Nghymru ar adeg pan nad oeddem yn ymwybodol o'r ffaith bod amrywiolyn Caint yn ymledu trwy'r wlad. Fe wnaeth natur drosglwyddadwy ychwanegol yr amrywiolyn hwnnw wahaniaeth i'r gyfradd y digwyddodd llif coronafeirws ynddi yn ystod y cyfnod yn dilyn y cyfnod atal byr. Y cyfnod atal byr ei hun, yn ôl The Lancet, oedd y mwyaf llwyddiannus yng Nghymru o bob rhan o'r Deyrnas Unedig, oherwydd fe wnaethom ni ddechrau arno'n gynharach nag unman arall ac roeddem ni'n fwy trylwyr nag unman arall. Ond roeddem ni'n wynebu cyfres o amgylchiadau, wrth ddod allan ohono, nad oeddem wedi eu rhagweld nac yn gwybod amdanynt chwaith. Nid yw obsesiwn yr Aelod ynglŷn â'r ffin yn un yr wyf fi'n ei rannu o gwbl. Rwyf wedi ceisio gwneud y pwynt hwn ar hyd y daith. I mi, nid mater sy'n ymwneud â'r ffin yw hwn byth; ond mater o geisio sicrhau ein bod ni'n diogelu ardaloedd lle mae yna lai o achosion rhag ardaloedd lle mae yna fwy o achosion, ble bynnag y bônt, a dyna sut y byddaf i'n parhau i ymdrin â hyn. Nid yw hwn erioed wedi bod yn fater o Gymru a Lloegr, yn fy marn i; ond yn fater o geisio sicrhau nad ydym ni'n mewnforio'r feirws unwaith eto i rannau o Gymru sydd wedi gweithio mor galed ac wedi aberthu cymaint i reoli'r niferoedd hynny. Rwy'n awyddus iawn i groesawu ymwelwyr o rannau eraill o'r Deyrnas Unedig yn ôl i Gymru pan fydd hi'n ddiogel inni wneud hynny. Ar hyn o bryd, nid yw Llywodraeth y DU ar gyfer Lloegr na Llywodraeth yr Alban ar gyfer yr Alban, na Gweithrediaeth Gogledd Iwerddon ychwaith, yn ystyried ei bod yn ddiogel i'w dinasyddion nhw deithio. Nawr, pan fydd y pethau hynny'n gwella, yna rwy'n edrych ymlaen yn fawr iawn at groesawu pobl yn ôl i Gymru, oherwydd dyna pryd y bydd yn ddiogel inni wneud hynny. Ac, fel gŵyr yr Aelod, mae'n rhaid inni ystyried teimladau'r rhannau hynny o Gymru nad ydyn nhw wedi gweld ymwelwyr ers amser maith, lle mae niferoedd y boblogaeth frodorol yn gymharol isel ond yn chwyddo llawer iawn yn ystod y tymor ymwelwyr. Felly, mae'n rhaid inni feddwl am hynny i gyd hefyd. Rwy'n ofni bod yr Aelod wedi datgelu ei feddylfryd ef ei hunan, yn sicr, ac, os oedd yn dyfynnu Prif Weinidog y DU yn gywir, meddylfryd y Prif Weinidog hefyd. Nid lle'r Prif Weinidog yw caniatáu i'r Senedd a etholir yn uniongyrchol yma yng Nghymru neu'r Senedd yn yr Alban arfer y pwerau a ddatganolwyd inni. Meddylfryd fel hyn sy'n credu mai rhyw fath o is-gorff ydym ni, rywsut, lle mae Prif Weinidog y DU yn rhoi ei ganiatâd ef i ni wneud rhai pethau neu beidio. Rwy'n siŵr y gallai dulliau eraill o weithredu fod wedi digwydd yn ystod argyfwng coronafeirws, ac fe allai'r pwerau enfawr a gafodd eu hymarfer fod wedi cael eu hymarfer gan rywun yma yng Nghymru. Rwyf i o'r farn ei bod wedi bod yn well i'r penderfyniadau sy'n effeithio ar bobl Cymru fod wedi cael eu gwneud gan bobl yng Nghymru a etholwyd gan bobl Cymru i wneud y penderfyniadau hynny ar eu rhan nhw. Rydym ni'n ddigon aeddfed i wneud hynny, ac nid oes angen i neb arall ddweud wrthym beth allwn ni a beth na allwn ni ei wneud.