English: I recognise what you said at the start of your third question about stigma. There's still an unfinished journey in tackling stigma, both in the way people see themselves and mental health, as well as the way other people see mental health challenges, and in how we normalise the conversation about mental health in exactly the same way as we do with physical health challenges. I remember and recognise the Gellinudd Recovery Centre opening. It was a very enjoyable day with an enormous cake, I seem to recall, and I actually went through some of the rooms that they were looking to open. And there was a conversation there about making sure that health service commissioners and others were aware of the spaces they had. And I looked at the layout, and it does look like somewhere you would choose to stay as opposed to somewhere where people are hidden away and that's a really important part about the feel of the place when you go in, and this really is all about recovery and that's the point; they refer to it as the Gellinudd Recovery Centre, because they want to look at how people are helped in that journey as well. It is a journey; there isn't a simple point at which you say a specified period of time will resolve all ills. We recognise that that isn't the case. So, there's something about how we continue to look at what people commission, about the help and support that is there, and then making sure that, if there was a challenge in that work not being commissioned, that we would bring people together in exactly the same way we have done with other facilities as well. We bring commissioners together to look at the services that are already there to make sure they're properly aware of it and to think about how they are otherwise meeting the needs of their population, because that is the point: how does the health board, together with their duties with local authorities, plan together to understand people's needs and then do something to meet the needs that they identify?
Welsh: Rwy'n cydnabod yr hyn a ddywedoch chi ar ddechrau eich trydydd cwestiwn ynglŷn â stigma. Mae yma daith anorffenedig o hyd o ran mynd i'r afael â stigma, o ran y ffordd y mae pobl yn meddwl am eu hunain ac am iechyd meddwl, yn ogystal â'r ffordd y mae pobl eraill yn meddwl am heriau iechyd meddwl, ac o ran sut rydym yn normaleiddio'r sgwrs am iechyd meddwl yn yr un ffordd yn union ag y gwnawn gyda heriau iechyd corfforol. Rwy'n cofio Canolfan Adferiad Gellinudd yn agor. Roedd yn ddiwrnod pleserus iawn gyda chacen enfawr, tueddaf i gofio, ac euthum drwy rai o'r ystafelloedd roeddent yn bwriadu eu hagor. A chafwyd sgwrs yno ynglŷn â sicrhau bod comisiynwyr y gwasanaeth iechyd ac eraill yn ymwybodol o'r mannau a oedd ganddynt. Ac edrychais ar y cynllun, ac mae'n edrych fel rhywle y byddech yn dewis aros yn hytrach na rhywle lle mae pobl yn cael eu cuddio ac mae hynny'n rhan bwysig iawn o naws y lle pan ewch i mewn, ac mae hyn oll yn ymwneud â gwella, a dyna'r pwynt; maent yn cyfeirio ati fel Canolfan Adferiad Gellinudd, gan eu bod yn dymuno edrych ar sut y cynorthwyir pobl ar y daith honno hefyd. Taith yw hi; nid oes pwynt syml lle rydych yn dweud y bydd cyfnod penodedig o amser yn datrys yr holl broblemau. Rydym yn cydnabod nad yw hynny'n wir. Felly, mae rhywbeth yn hyn o beth sy'n ymwneud â sut rydym yn parhau i edrych ar yr hyn y mae pobl yn ei gomisiynu, y cymorth a'r gefnogaeth sydd ar gael yno, ac yna sicrhau, pe bai her yn yr ystyr nad oedd gwaith yn cael ei gomisiynu, y byddem yn dod â phobl at ei gilydd yn yr un ffordd yn union ag y gwnaethom gyda chyfleusterau eraill hefyd. Rydym yn dod â chomisiynwyr ynghyd i edrych ar y gwasanaethau sydd yno eisoes i sicrhau eu bod yn gwbl ymwybodol ohonynt ac i feddwl sut y maent yn diwallu anghenion eu poblogaeth fel arall, oherwydd dyna'r pwynt: sut y mae'r bwrdd iechyd, ynghyd â'u dyletswyddau gydag awdurdodau lleol, yn cynllunio ar y cyd i ddeall anghenion pobl a gwneud rhywbeth i ddiwallu'r anghenion a nodir ganddynt?