English: Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. First of all, can I welcome what the Cabinet Secretary has just said on behalf of the Government. I understand why the Government might do that, but I want to see the freely expressed views of her backbenchers on this issue, because this is not a motion in favour of Catalan independence, or even in support of the Catalan Government. It's a motion designed around parliamentary democracy and the expression of free will by the peoples of states, whether they're nation states or not. In that regard, I'm very pleased to have the support of a wide range of political voices, it has to be said - from Neil Hamilton to Lee Waters, Mick Antoniw, and others who have contributed to this debate and focused on the democratic rights of people to have their say. It is something that we've learnt over a long period in the United Kingdom to deal with, running up to the ability to give a referendum to the Scottish people, agreed between two Governments of equals. Perhaps we learnt it at the time that we lost the 13 colonies, if you want to go back that far. I invite David Melding to return to William and Mary college, where I know he goes every year, and give that speech to those naughty American communists who dared to declare independence and dared to secede from a state that wasn't providing for them. Because that's what's at the heart of this debate, and I very much regret David Melding's approach to this. I expected something stronger in terms of democratic principles - that he gave us earlier, if you like - but I think he was constrained by the fact that Rajoy and May have been dancing down Downing Street this week, and was forced to give a party-political line. [ Interruption.] I'm sorry, I really don't have time. I think we want, in this place, to unite as parliamentarians, and as people who agree with the right of a Parliament to express the will of and negotiate on behalf of its people. There is a personal element to this as well. There are four individuals still in prison in Catalunya due to the actions of the Spanish state, which everyone I think agrees has overreacted so far. We have to remember the names of Oriol Junqueras and Joaquim Forn, the two former Ministers still in prison - Oriol not able to see his children - and the two Jordis, of course, who are civil campaigners, not politicians but civil campaigners, who have also been imprisoned. We must remember them, particularly at this time of year, perhaps. But also, please unite as a Parliament to give an expression of solidarity, not taking sides but solidarity, with other Parliaments who express the will of their people.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Lywydd. Yn gyntaf oll, a gaf fi groesawu'r hyn a ddywedodd Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet yn awr ar ran y Llywodraeth? Gallaf ddeall pam y byddai'r Llywodraeth yn gwneud hynny, ond rwyf am weld barn Aelodau ei meinciau cefn a fynegir yn rhydd ar y mater hwn, gan nad cynnig o blaid annibyniaeth Catalonia yw hwn, na hyd yn oed cynnig o gefnogaeth i Lywodraeth Catalonia. Mae'n gynnig a luniwyd mewn perthynas â democratiaeth seneddol a mynegiant ewyllys rydd gan bobloedd mewn gwladwriaethau, pa un a ydynt yn genedl-wladwriaethau ai peidio. Yn yr ystyr honno, rwy'n falch iawn o gael cefnogaeth amrywiaeth eang o leisiau gwleidyddol, rhaid dweud - o Neil Hamilton i Lee Waters, Mick Antoniw, ac eraill sydd wedi cyfrannu at y ddadl hon ac wedi canolbwyntio ar hawliau democrataidd pobl i gael dweud eu dweud. Mae'n rhywbeth rydym wedi dysgu ymdopi ag ef dros gyfnod hir yn y Deyrnas Unedig, hyd at y gallu i roi refferendwm i bobl yr Alban, wedi'i gytuno rhwng dwy Lywodraeth yn gyfartal. Efallai ein bod wedi dysgu'r wers ar yr adeg y collasom y 13 trefedigaeth, os ydych am fynd yn ôl mor bell â hynny. Rwy'n gwahodd David Melding i ddychwelyd i goleg William a Mary, lle rwy'n gwybod ei fod yn mynd bob blwyddyn, a rhoi'r araith honno i'r comiwnyddion drygionus hynny yn America a feiddiodd ddatgan annibyniaeth ac a feiddiodd ymwahanu o wladwriaeth nad oedd yn darparu ar eu cyfer. Oherwydd dyna sydd wrth wraidd y ddadl hon, ac rwy'n gresynu at agwedd David Melding tuag at hyn. Roeddwn yn disgwyl rhywbeth cryfach o ran egwyddorion democrataidd - rhywbeth a roddodd i ni yn gynharach, os mynnwch - ond credaf ei fod wedi'i gyfyngu gan y ffaith bod Rajoy a May wedi bod yn dawnsio i lawr Stryd Downing yr wythnos hon, ac fe'i gorfodwyd i roi safbwynt gwleidyddol. [ Torri ar draws.] Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, nid oes gennyf amser o gwbl. Credaf fod arnom eisiau uno fel seneddwyr yn y lle hwn, ac fel pobl sy'n cytuno â hawl Senedd i fynegi ewyllys ei phobl a negodi ar eu rhan. Mae yna elfen bersonol i hyn yn ogystal. Mae pedwar unigolyn yn dal i fod yn y carchar yng Nghatalwnia oherwydd gweithredoedd gwladwriaeth Sbaen, ac rwy'n meddwl bod pawb yn cytuno ei bod wedi gorymateb hyd yma. Rhaid inni gofio enwau Oriol Junqueras a Joaquim Forn, y ddau gyn-Weinidog sy'n dal i fod yn y carchar - nid yw Oriol yn cael gweld ei blant - a'r ddau Jordi, wrth gwrs, sy'n ymgyrchwyr sifil, nid gwleidyddion ond ymgyrchwyr sifil, sydd hefyd wedi cael eu carcharu. Rhaid i ni eu cofio, yn enwedig ar yr adeg hon o'r flwyddyn efallai. Ond hefyd, os gwelwch yn dda, unwch fel Senedd i roi mynegiant o undod, nid i ddewis ochr ond i ddangos undod â Seneddau eraill sy'n mynegi ewyllys eu pobl.