English: He's a Canadian, as well as speaking Gaelic and Welsh. I think we are at risk of seeking salvation outwith our own borders. We're too willing to do that on occasion rather than looking at our own strengths, and perhaps it's part of our legacy as people who have a lack of confidence in governing ourselves. I think one thing that perhaps is a truism, but deserves to be said, is that it's impossible to make direct comparisons of any minority language against another. The political circumstances, the economic, social and governance structures, are so very different that it's very difficult to make those meaningful comparisons. The Basque language is compared to the Welsh language because of the number of speakers, the socioeconomic profile of the Welsh language and the Basque language, and the fact that they are languages that are not similar to their main contact language, or neighbouring language. But the recent history of the Basque Country and the oppression that they have suffered is very different to the recent history of the Welsh language. Although we feel that we have been oppressed, what they suffered under Franco is nothing like what's been experienced here. So, I think it's very difficult for you to draw close comparisons. I worked for 12 years as a member of the European Council expert panel on the charter for minority languages, and one thing I learned was that there is great diversity not only in the situation of languages, but also in the attitudes of Governments in how to deal with minority languages. There were some Governments who placed huge importance on this - the Swedish Government, for example, in their attitude towards Sami and Finnish - and other Governments saw it as an absolute nuisance. Therefore, it's very difficult, I think, for us to generalise on this point.
Welsh: Mae o'n Ganadiad yn ogystal â rhywun sy'n siaradwr Gaeleg a Chymraeg. Rydw i'n credu bod yna beryg inni wylio am waredigaeth y tu hwnt i ffiniau Cymru. Rydym ni'n rhy barod i wneud hynny weithiau, rwy'n credu, yn hytrach nag edrych ar ein cryfder ein hunain, ac efallai ei bod hi'n rhan o'n hetifeddiaeth ni fel pobl sydd â diffyg hyder yn ein gallu ni i reoli ein hunain. Un peth rydw i'n credu sydd efallai yn wireb, ond sy'n werth ei ddweud serch hynny, yw nid oes dim modd gwneud cymhariaeth un am un o sefyllfa unrhyw iaith leiafrifol yn erbyn unrhyw un arall. Mae'r amgylchiadau gwleidyddol, llywodraethiant, cymdeithasol-economaidd mor wahanol i'w gilydd fel ei bod hi'n anodd iawn i wneud cymariaethau. Mae'r Fasgeg yn cael ei chymharu â'r Gymraeg oherwydd nifer y siaradwyr, proffil socioeconomaidd yr ieithoedd, y ffaith eu bod nhw'n ieithoedd sydd ddim byd tebyg i'w prif iaith gyswllt nhw. Ond mae hanes diweddar Gwlad y Basg a'r gorthrwm y maen nhw wedi dioddef yno yn gyfan gwbl wahanol i hanes diweddar y Gymraeg. Er gwaethaf y ffaith ein bod ni'n teimlo fel rydym ni wedi bod dan orthrwm, nid ydy'r hyn a ddioddefan nhw dan Franco dim byd tebyg i beth rydym ni wedi'i ddioddef. Felly, rydw i'n credu ei bod hi'n anodd iawn, iawn ichi dynnu cymariaethau rhy agos. Bues i'n gweithio am 12 mlynedd fel aelod o banel arbenigwyr Cyngor Ewrop ar siartr yr ieithoedd lleiafrifol, ac un peth a ddysgais i oedd bod yna amrywiaeth ryfeddol, nid yn unig yn sefyllfaoedd ieithoedd, ond hefyd yn agweddau Llywodraethau tuag at y cwestiwn o sut i ddelio ag ieithoedd lleiafrifol. Mi oedd rhai Llywodraethau yn cymryd hwn fel mater o'r pwys mwyaf - er enghraifft, Llywodraeth Sweden, yn ei hagwedd tuag at y Ffinneg a'r Sami. Mi oedd Llywodraethau eraill yn gweld hwn fel niwsans, ac felly mae'n anodd iawn, iawn, iawn, rydw i'n credu, inni gyffredinoli.