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English: Can I just add, briefly, a great deal of attention has been given to the educational workforce in the statutory sector, but if you're looking at how many people can teach through the medium of Welsh in the further education sector and the work-based learning sector, the truth is that we don't have the data, because it's only now that the Education Workforce Council is about to publish those data. So, at present, we're not able - or, certainly, I'm not aware of a data source where we can see what percentage can teach through the medium of Welsh. Now, we know that the coleg has identified that as a problem and intends to get to grips with it, but, at the moment, a great deal of attention is given to the statutory sector, but in terms of work-based learning and the post-16 sector, then we know, for example, that there's a problem in terms of providing apprenticeships through the medium of Welsh, but we don't know the scale of the problem. And this is clearly a barrier if we're trying to get to grips with the problem of planning effectively for increasing the number of Welsh speakers.
Welsh: Gaf i jest ychwanegu hyn - gair sydyn iawn: mae lot o sylw wedi bod ar y gweithlu addysg yn y sector statudol. Nawr, os ydych chi'n chwilio am faint o bobl sy'n medru dysgu trwy gyfrwng y Gymraeg yn y sector addysg bellach a dysgu seiliedig ar waith, y gwir amdani yw does gennym ni ddim data eto achos dim ond nawr mae'r Cyngor Gweithlu Addysg ar fin cyhoeddi'r data yma. Felly, ar hyn o bryd, dydyn ni ddim - o leiaf, dwi ddim yn ymwybodol o ffynhonnell data sydd yn gallu gweld pa ganran sy'n medru dysgu trwy gyfrwng y Gymraeg. Nawr, rydym ni'n gwybod bod y coleg wedi adnabod hynny fel problem ac yn bwriadu mynd i'r afael â'r broblem yma, ond ar hyn o bryd, mae lot o sylw ar y sector addysg statudol, ond o ran addysg bellach a dysgu seiliedig ar waith, rydym ni'n gwybod, er enghraifft, fod argaeledd tiwtoriaid yn broblem o ran cynnig prentisiaethau cyfrwng Cymraeg, ond nid dŷn ni ddim yn gwybod beth yw graddfa'r broblem, fel petai. Ac mae hyn, yn amlwg, yn rhwystr os ydym ni'n ceisio mynd i'r afael â'r broblem o gynllunio'n effeithiol ar gyfer y cynnydd.
English: I think a lot of the questions have already been asked, but perhaps you can expand a little just in terms of - we are aware that within the workforce there are some sectors that are prioritised for women or men, and that then happens in the apprenticeship field. Do you have an opinion on what the skills partnerships should be doing to make this more consistent or to draw attention to the fact that different apprenticeships are available for all genders? For example, there are still some courses that men wouldn't feel comfortable in following due to the stigma or due to it being related to women, and the other way around perhaps women wouldn't be incentivised to follow an apprenticeship in a specific field. So, what role do the partnerships have to draw attention to the different options in these different areas?
Welsh: Dwi'n credu bod lot o'r cwestiynau wedi cael eu gofyn, ond efallai gallwch chi ehangu arno fe jest o ran - dŷn ni'n ymwybodol o fewn y gweithle fod yna rai sectorau sydd yn cael eu blaenoriaethu ar gyfer menywod neu ddynion, ac mae hynny wedyn yn digwydd yn y maes prentisiaethau. Oes gennych chi farn ynglŷn â beth ddylai'r partneriaethau sgiliau fod yn ei wneud i gysoni hyn neu i amlygu'r ffaith bod prentisiaethau gwahanol ar gael i bob rhyw? Er enghraifft, mae yna'n dal rhai cyrsiau lle na fyddai dynion, efallai, yn teimlo'n gyfforddus i ymwneud â nhw oherwydd y stigma neu oherwydd eu bod yn ymwneud â menywod, a'r ffordd arall o gwmpas lle bod menywod efallai ddim yn cael eu cymell i wneud prentisiaeth mewn maes penodol. Felly, pa rôl sydd gan y partneriaethau i geisio tynnu sylw i'r opsiynau yn y meysydd gwahanol?
English: You talked about skills partnerships, but I was talking to the University of South Wales the other day and they were saying that we need to go into schools with five or six-year-olds possibly, to give children these options. They were talking about the digital gaming industry. Unless you're immersed or unless you see that this is an option for you from an early age, you may not ever, perhaps, by the time you're 16, even think of going into this sector. My question, therefore, is: is planning on the regional skills partnerships level too late in terms of some of the things we discuss here with gender, in terms of where people are going? Doesn't it need to start much earlier?
Welsh: Dŷch chi'n sôn am y partneriaethau sgiliau, ond roeddwn i'n siarad â Phrifysgol De Cymru y diwrnod o'r blaen ac roedden nhw'n dweud bod angen mynd mewn i ysgolion gyda phlant pump neu chwech oed hyd yn oed, i roi'r opsiynau yma i blant. Roedden nhw'n siarad am y diwydiant gemau digidol. Os nad ydych chi'n cael eich trywtho neu'n gweld bod hyn yn opsiwn i chi pan ydych yn oedran ifanc, dŷch chi byth yn mynd i, efallai, erbyn cyrraedd oedran 16 ta beth, hyd yn oed feddwl mynd i mewn i'r sector yma. Fy nghwestiwn i yw, felly: ydy cynllunio ar lefel partneriaethau sgiliau rhanbarthol yn rhy hwyr ar gyfer rhai o'r pethau dŷn ni'n trafod yma o ran rhywedd, o ran lle mae pobl yn mynd? Onid oes angen iddo fe gychwyn yn lot cynharach?
English: Just one final question. This is the big question, really, in terms of learner's choice and then what the institution or what the partnerships recognise as being vital for the economy or for the future. You could put an engineering course on, but if nobody wants to do it because they want to do something else, where do you stand then? So, what do you think that the skills partnerships can do to shape, perhaps, the options, so that some of them, perhaps, become more attractive, rather than doing something that is interesting for them to do, but isn't going to lead to employment, ultimately?
Welsh: Jest cwestiwn gen i o ran - . Hwn yw'r cwestiwn mawr, rili, o ran dewis dysgwr ac wedyn beth mae'r sefydliad neu beth mae'r partneriaethau yn cydnabod neu'n adnabod sy'n angenrheidiol i'r economi neu i'r dyfodol. Gallech chi roi cwrs peirianneg arno, ond os nad oes neb eisiau ei wneud e achos eu bod nhw eisiau gwneud rhywbeth arall, wedyn ble dŷch chi'n sefyll, wedyn? Felly, beth dŷch chi'n credu mae'r partneriaethau sgiliau yn gallu ei wneud er mwyn, efallai, siapio'r opsiynau, fel bod, efallai, rhai ohonyn nhw'n dod yn fwy deniadol, yn hytrach na'u bod nhw'n gwneud rhywbeth sy'n ddiddorol iddyn nhw ei wneud, ond, efallai, sydd ddim y mynd i arwain at swydd ar ddiwedd y dydd?
English: Good morning, everyone, and welcome to this meeting of the Finance Committee at the National Assembly. Could I say that the headsets are available for interpretation and that you can use those also to amplify the sound, if you need to do that? Could I also remind Members to ensure that any electronic devices are on silent, and could I ask whether Members have any interests to declare? No. Thank you very much. Could I also note that we have had apologies from Nick Ramsay, who can't join us this morning?
Welsh: Wel, bore da, bawb, a chroeso i gyfarfod Pwyllgor Cyllid y Cynulliad Cenedlaethol. Gaf i nodi bod y clustffonau ar gael ar gyfer y cyfieithu fel arfer, wrth gwrs, a bod modd hefyd defnyddio'r rheini i addasu lefel y sain, os oes angen? Gaf i hefyd atgoffa Aelodau i ddiffodd y sain ar unrhyw ddyfeisiadau electronig sydd gennych chi ac a gaf i ofyn a oes gan unrhyw Aelod unrhyw fuddiannau i'w datgan? Nac oes. Diolch yn fawr. Gaf i nodi hefyd ein bod ni wedi derbyn ymddiheuriad gan Nick Ramsay, sydd yn methu â bod gyda ni'r bore yma? Mi symudwn -
English: Okay, we'll go to item 3 on our agenda, namely a scrutiny session on the Senedd and Elections (Wales) Bill, and I welcome representatives from the Assembly Commission: Manon Antoniazzi, Chief Executive and Clerk to the Assembly and Nia Morgan, director of finance. Welcome to both of you. We'll go straight into questions if that's okay, and I will start by noting that many of the costs identified in the regulatory impact assessment for the Assembly relate to staff time. I just want to ask what your opinion is of the methodology that was used to arrive at those estimates and has that methodology been used consistently throughout the RIA.
Welsh: Iawn, mi awn ni at eitem 3 ar ein hagenda ni, felly, sef sesiwn graffu ar y Bil Senedd ac Etholiadau (Cymru), a dwi'n croesawu cynrychiolwyr Comisiwn y Cynulliad atom ni: Manon Antoniazzi, Prif Weithredwr a Chlerc y Cynulliad a Nia Morgan, y cyfarwyddwr cyllid. Croeso i'r ddwy ohonoch chi. Mi awn ni'n syth i gwestiynau os ydy hynny'n iawn, ac mi gychwynnaf i os caf i drwy nodi bod yna lawer o gostau yn yr asesiad effaith rheoleiddiol ar gyfer y Cynulliad sy'n ymwneud ag amser staff. Dwi jest eisiau gofyn, mewn gwirionedd: beth yw'ch barn chi ynglŷn â'r fethodoleg sydd wedi cael ei defnyddio i ddod i'r symiau hynny ac ydy'r fethodoleg yna wedi cael ei defnyddio'n gyson drwy'r asesiad?
English: I do think that the methodology is robust and is one that has been applied consistently. I can only speak of the Commission costs, but I know that you will have had an opportunity, on other occasions, to question other stakeholders about their costs. But I do know that there was quite a thorough exercise undertaken within the Commission in consulting with a number of heads of department, and also ensuring that those heads did consult with each other at meetings to ensure that the assumptions were common among them all and that no costs have been duplicated. So, I am comfortable that that methodology was accurate, and, where possible within the explanatory memorandum, that that methodology and the assumptions have been properly set out so that they can be scrutinised more effectively now and after legislating.
Welsh: Dwi yn meddwl bod y fethodoleg wedi bod yn un cadarn ac yn un sydd wedi cael ei gweithredu'n gyson hefyd. Gallaf i dim ond siarad, wrth gwrs, ynglŷn â'r costau ar gyfer y Comisiwn, ond fe fyddwch chi wedi cael cyfle, dwi'n gwybod, ar achlysuron eraill, i holi rhanddeiliaid eraill ynglŷn â'u costau nhw. Ond dwi'n gwybod bod yna ymarferiad weddol drylwyr wedi digwydd o fewn y Comisiwn yn ymgynghori â sawl pennaeth adran, a hefyd yn gwneud yn siŵr bod y penaethiaid adran yn ymgynghori â'i gilydd mewn cyfarfodydd i wneud yn siŵr bod tybiaethau yn gyffredin rhyngddyn nhw i gyd a bod yna ddim costau wedi cael eu dyblygu, fel petai. So, dwi'n gyfforddus bod y fethodoleg yna'n gywir, a hefyd, lle mae'n bosib o fewn y memorandwm esboniadol, fod y fethodoleg yna a'r tybiaethau wedi cael eu gosod allan fel bod modd craffu'n fwy effeithiol nawr ac ar ôl deddfu.
English: Fine. Alun, do you want to come in?
Welsh: Iawn. Alun, ŷch chi eisiau dod i mewn?
English: When I look at costs, when it talks about staff time, I always ask myself the question: is that a real cost? Are you employing extra staff, are they doing different things, or are these staff members who are existing members of staff and who are going to be staff members during the period that we're discussing here?
Welsh: Pan fyddaf i'n edrych ar gostau, pan fo sôn amboutu amser staff, dwi wastad yn gofyn i fy hun y cwestiwn: ydy honno yn gost go iawn? Ydych chi'n cyflogi staff ychwanegol ac ydyn nhw'n gwneud pethau gwahanol, neu ydy'r rhain yn staff sy'n bodoli ar hyn o bryd, sy'n aelodau o staff ar hyn o bryd, ac yn mynd i fod yn aelodau o staff trwy gydol y cyfnod dŷn ni'n ei drafod fan hyn?
English: On a practical level, you make a good point - I think many of the staff costs will be subsumed within the usual budget, but I do understand that, throughout the explanatory memorandum, there has been a prudent approach towards cost estimates, and, in order to make best use of best practice and to ensure transparency to allow scrutiny, then we have gone into those staff costs and set them out so that they can be scrutinised. You could ask the same of Members' time, but there's no possibility of having more Members to be doing scrutiny work later on in this process. What we do year on year, of course, in the Commission is to estimate the business needs that will arise, and, on occasion, we do vary staff numbers within strict limits. But, certainly, we've taken a cautious approach, and we thought that was best in preparing this Bill, because we do want to be an exemplar and to respond to comments made by this committee and others in scrutinising other Bills.
Welsh: Yn ymarferol - . Rŷch chi'n gwneud pwynt da - yn ymarferol, dwi'n meddwl y bydd llawer iawn o'r costau staff yn cael eu cynnwys, eu llyncu, o fewn y gyllideb arferol, ond dwi'n deall, drwy gydol y memorandwm esboniadol, fod yna agwedd bwyllog wedi cael ei chymryd tuag at amcangyfrif costau, ac felly, er mwyn defnyddio arfer gorau a bod yn hollol dryloyw fel bod modd craffu, yna rŷn ni wedi mynd i mewn i'r costau staff yna a'u gosod nhw allan fel bod modd cwestiynu hynny. Mi allech chi ofyn yr un peth am amser Aelodau, ond wrth gwrs does yna ddim posibilrwydd o gael mwy o Aelodau i fod yn gwneud gwaith craffu yn hwyrach yn y broses. Beth rŷn ni'n ei wneud o flwyddyn i flwyddyn, wrth gwrs, yn y Comisiwn yw amcangyfrif yr anghenion busnes sydd yn mynd i fod yn codi, ac, ambell i waith, rŷn ni yn amrywio niferoedd y staff o fewn cwmpawd bach o safbwynt hwnnw. Ond, yn sicr, cymryd agwedd bwyllog roedden ni'n meddwl oedd orau wrth baratoi Bil, achos rŷn ni eisiau bod yn enghreifftiol ac ymateb i sylwadau mae'r pwyllgor yma ac eraill wedi eu gwneud wrth graffu Biliau eraill yn mynd trwyddo.
English: I understand and appreciate that; I don't challenge that at all. But I just want to understand whether this is - it's not an additional cost.
Welsh: Dwi'n deall hynny a dwi'n gwerthfawrogi hynny; dwi ddim yn herio hynny o gwbl. Ond dwi eisiau deall ydy hyn yn - dyw hon ddim yn gost ychwanegol.
English: Very possibly - well, it is going to be a cost, and we have put a price on it because it's going to be a real need. Whether we'll employ additional staff, I can't tell you at the moment.
Welsh: Posib iawn - wel, mae hi'n mynd i fod yn gost. Rŷn ni wedi rhoi pris ar y gost oherwydd mae e'n mynd i fod yn angen gwirioneddol. P'un ai fyddwn ni'n cyflogi staff ychwanegol, allaf i ddim dweud ar hyn o bryd.
English: But it sounds to me that it's a soft cost rather than a hard cost.
Welsh: Ocê, ond mae'n swnio i fi fel ei bod hi'n gost feddal yn lle cost galed.
English: Very possibly.
Welsh: Posib iawn.
English: Yes.
Welsh: Dyna chi, ie.
English: How robust do you think that the costs are that have been provided for that aspect of the Bill?
Welsh: Pa mor gadarn ŷch chi'n credu yw'r costau sydd wedi cael eu darparu ar gyfer yr agwedd yna'n benodol?
English: Well, once again, I do feel that these costs are quite robust. I am quite comfortable, once again, that the exercise that took place to assess those costs has been thorough, and that all parts of the organisation have looked at that and gone through the costs in detail. This may be an appropriate time to note that we did take opportunities, where possible, to reduce the costs. The Commission agreed that we wouldn't have a full graphic rebranding exercise, so there will be no new logo to go along with the new name. We have looked at signage, which can be expensive, of course, around the estate, and where we can do without a sign, for example on the side of this building, Tŷ Hywel, we will simply withdraw the current sign and not replace it. At the moment, when a need has arisen for items such as carpets, for example - we needed to replace one carpet in the entry because it had been damaged by water, then we had a new carpet that didn't have any wording, just the logo and the word, 'Croeso/Welcome' so we're not putting extra costs on ourselves if this Bill passes.
Welsh: Wel, unwaith eto, dwi yn teimlo bod y costau yma yn weddol gadarn. Dwi'n reit gyfforddus, unwaith eto, bod yr ymarferiad ddigwyddodd i asesu'r costau wedi bod yn un trwyadl, a bod pob rhan o'r mudiad wedi edrych ar rheina - o'n sefydliad ni - wedi edrych ar rheina ac wedi mynd trwyddyn nhw. Efallai mae hwn yn foment i nodi ein bod ni wedi cymryd cyfleoedd, lle'n bosib, i leihau'r gost. Mi gytunodd y Comisiwn, wrth gwrs, dŷn ni ddim yn mynd i gael ymarferiad ail-frandio graffeg llwyr, felly, fydd yna ddim logo newydd ar gyfer enw newydd. Rŷn ni wedi edrych ar arwyddion a phethau, sydd yn bethau drud, o gwmpas yr ystâd, a lle mae'n bosib hepgor arwydd, er enghraifft, ar ochr yr adeilad hwn, Tŷ Hywel, mi fyddwn ni jest yn tynnu'r enw cyfredol o yna a ddim yn rhoi un arall nôl. Ar hyn o bryd, pan fo yna angen wedi codi ar gyfer eitemau fel carpedi, er enghraifft - roedd angen i ni adnewyddu un carped yn y fynedfa oherwydd bod dŵr wedi niweidio fe, yna mi wnaethon ni gael carped newydd oedd heb eiriau, jest efo'r logo a'r gair 'Croeso' fel dŷn ni ddim yn rhoi cost i ni'n hunain os bydd y Bil yma'n pasio.
English: There's also been a point made that there is this date of May 2020 for adopting the new name, but there's no expectation, necessarily, that that will be adopted in the signage until 2021. Is there potential for confusion in there and costs being spent before you expect? Because it's quite significant, and I'm sure that some Members would like to see that reflected.
Welsh: Mae yna bwynt wedi cael ei wneud hefyd, wrth gwrs, fod y dyddiad yma o fis Mai 2020 ar gyfer mabwysiadu'r enw newydd, ond bod dim disgwyl, o reidrwydd, i hynny gael ei adlewyrchu mewn arwyddion, ac yn y blaen, o safbwynt Aelodau, tan 2021. Oes yna botensial am ddryswch yn y cyfnod yna a chostau, efallai, yn cael eu gwario'n gynt nag oeddech chi'n rhagweld? Oherwydd mae'n eithaf arwyddocaol - rwy'n siŵr y byddai rhai Aelodau yn dymuno cael hynny wedi'i adlewyrchu.
English: Well, many of the costs we anticipate - . Many of the changes will be able to happen immediately - things such as using the terminology on letterheads, electronically on websites, and business cards and so on, where there is quite a quick turnover and the stocks will be properly managed and they're easily replenished and are often replenished. In terms of the cost of signage, then, it's a matter for the remuneration board, ultimately, and it has been built into the costs that the signage will remain in place for a year, because, in some cases, the names will change, so it will be a way of reducing costs. If we can wait until the year 2021, then we will be able to start the sixth Assembly with a whole new collection of signage without cost to the public purse. But that will be a matter for individual Members to decide.
Welsh: Wel, mi fydd tipyn o'r costau rŷn ni'n tybio - . Mi fydd tipyn o'r newidiadau yn gallu digwydd yn syth - pethau fel defnyddio'r derminoleg ar lythyron ac yn electronig ar wefannau ac ati, a chardiau busnes a'r math yma o beth, lle mae yna turnover eithaf sydyn ac mae'r stociau'n mynd i fod yn cael eu rheoli'n iawn ac mae'n hawdd i'w hadnewyddu nhw ac maen nhw'n cael eu hadnewyddu'n aml. O safbwynt costau arwyddion, yna mater i'r bwrdd taliadau bydd talu am arwyddion yn y pen draw, ac mae yna dybiaethau wedi cael eu hadeiladu i mewn i'r costau bydd arwyddion yn aros am flwyddyn, achos, wrth gwrs, mewn rhai achosion, efallai na fydd yr un enw ar yr arwyddion, felly mi fydd yn fodd i leihau'r costau. Os gallwn ni aros tan y flwyddyn 2021, yna mi fydd modd dechrau'r chweched Cynulliad efo set gyfan o arwyddion heb gost ychwanegol i'r pwrs cyhoeddus. Ond, yn amlwg, mi fydd hwnna'n fater i Aelodau unigol i benderfynu.
English: Fine. Alun wants to come in here too.
Welsh: Iawn. Mae Alun eisiau dod i mewn ar hwn hefyd.
English: I think that we need to change the image anyway, if I could be quite frank with you. I don't think the image says anything about this place and what it does. I don't think it communicates the nature of the institution at all, but I think that's a debate for another day. I take it that the costs remain the same whatever the new name is. I don't think that there is an additional cost to one option, in terms of one name or another. I take it that the cost is the cost.
Welsh: Dwi'n meddwl bod angen newid y ddelwedd ta beth, os dwi'n hollol frank gyda chi. Dwi ddim yn credu bod y ddelwedd bresennol yn dweud dim byd amboutu'r lle yma a beth mae'n ei wneud. Dwi ddim yn credu ei bod yn help i gyfathrebu neu nodi'r sefydliad mewn unrhyw ffordd o gwbl, ond dwi'n cymryd bod honno'n ddadl i ddiwrnod arall i heddiw. Dwi'n cymryd bod y costau'n aros yr un peth beth bynnag ydy unrhyw enw newydd; dwi ddim yn credu bod yna gost ychwanegol i un opsiwn na'r llall. Rwy'n cymryd bod y gost yw'r gost.
English: No. You're right, yes.
Welsh: Na. Dyna chi, ie.
English: You mentioned stationery, and so forth, and up to 95 per cent of the £100,000 in the budget for stationery is spent every year. I was just wondering - . You're using that as a baseline costing for each of the five years. Is it fair to assume that £95,000 will be the cost for each of the five years? It is possible that there will be a variation, or is that the peak cost?
Welsh: Fe sonioch chi am ddeunydd ysgrifennu, ac yn y blaen, ac, wrth gwrs, mae hyd at 95 y cant o'r £100,000 yn y gyllideb ar gyfer deunydd ysgrifenedig yn cael ei wario bob blwyddyn. Roeddwn i jest yn cysidro - . Rŷch chi'n defnyddio hwnna fel cost sylfaenol - y 95 y cant yma - ar gyfer pob un o'r pum mlynedd. Ydyw e'n deg tybio mai £95,000 fydd y gost bob blwyddyn am bum mlynedd? Hynny yw, does posib bod yna ryw elfen o amrywio, neu ai hwnna yw'r gost uchaf rŷch chi wedi'i chynnwys?
English: That is the peak cost; that's our best estimate on the basis of current spend. We, of course, have to put a specific figure in our draft budget rather than a range of figures, and, as that range is very small in relation to legislation, as you can see, this has been a practice that we have adopted throughout the explanatory memorandum, namely, providing a maximum rather than a range of costs.
Welsh: Hwnna yw'r gost uchaf; dyna'r amcangyfrif gorau y gallwn ni ei wneud ar sail gwariant cyfredol. Mae'n rhaid inni, wrth gwrs, roi ffigur penodol yn ein cyllidebau drafft ni yn hytrach nag ystod o ffigurau, a gan fod yr ystod yn un bach iawn yn nhermau deddfu, unwaith eto, mae hwn, fel y gwelwch chi, wedi bod yn arfer rŷn ni wedi mabwysiadu drwy gydol y memorandwm esboniadol, sef rhoi'r uchafswm yn hytrach nag ystod o gostau.
English: Okay. The final question from me for now: which costs have the least certainty in terms of the costs you're responsible for? And wouldn't it have been useful to have a sensitivity analysis in the regulatory impact assessment so that we could test the impact of changing some of the key assumptions in the costs?
Welsh: Ocê. Y cwestiwn olaf gen i am y tro: pa gostau ŷch chi'n meddwl sydd â'r sicrwydd lleiaf o safbwynt y costau rŷch chi'n gyfrifol amdanyn nhw? Ac oni fyddai wedi bod yn ddefnyddiol cael dadansoddiad sensitifrwydd yn yr asesiad effaith rheoleiddiol er mwyn i ni allu testio impact, efallai, newid rhai o'r assumptions allweddol sydd yn y costau?