English: It's difficult to say. We have been working closely with the arts council for a number of years, particularly as we're looking into redeveloping Clwb Ifor Bach, and the arts council has been very supportive of that work. They gave us some funding for the first stage - the feasibility study - and we are receiving further support with regard to preparing the planning application, and they have been great on that side of things. We've also received support from them for specific projects. There's one tour that we're doing in October with Blodau Papur, which will take us to five different venues around Wales. But what isn't there at the moment - . This comes to a wider question, I think, and it's something that I have put forward in my response to the inquiry, in terms of how live music venues are viewed. The problem that we have in terms of the licensing, the funding and the arts council side of things as well is that we're not seen as arts centres or cultural centres in the same way as places like Chapter or St David's Hall are seen. That has implications for us in terms of licensing, because there are more stringent rules in terms of safety and security that we have to adhere to, and that has an impact on us in terms of costs for organising events. It also has an impact in terms of our ability to draw down core funding to hold a programme of events. I think there's still a perception of grass-roots venues as commercial entities. But the truth is that, in the case of Clwb y Bont and us, we're not-for-profit organisations. It's not a sector that you go into to make a lot of money; it's increasingly difficult to support and maintain these venues and, traditionally, the majority of these places have operated without any regular funding to support what they do.
Welsh: Mae'n anodd. Dŷn ni wedi bod yn gweithio'n agos efo'r cyngor celfyddydau dros y cwpwl o flynyddoedd diwethaf, yn enwedig efo edrych i mewn i ailddatblygu Clwb Ifor Bach, ac mae cyngor y celfyddydau wedi bod yn gefnogol iawn o'n gwaith fanna. Fe wnaethon nhw roi nawdd i ni ar gyfer y cam cyntaf - yr astudiaeth ddichonoldeb - a hefyd dŷn ni wedi cael nawdd pellach ganddyn nhw nawr ar gyfer paratoi cyflwyno'r cais cynllunio, ac maen nhw wedi bod yn grêt ar yr ochr hynny. Dŷn ni hefyd wedi cael nawdd ganddyn nhw ar gyfer prosiectau penodol. Mae yna un daith y byddwn ni'n ei gwneud ym mis Hydref efo Blodau Papur - taith sy'n mynd â ni i bump lleoliad gwahanol o amgylch Cymru. Ond beth sydd ddim yna ar hyn o bryd - . Mae hyn yn dod i gwestiwn ehangach, dwi'n meddwl, ac mae'n rhywbeth dwi wedi ei ddodi yn fy ymateb i i'r ymgynghoriad, o ran sut mae canolfannau cerddoriaeth fyw yn cael eu gweld. Y broblem fawr sydd gennym ni o'r ochr drwyddedu, yr ochr nawdd, yr ochr cyngor y celfyddydau, o bosibl hefyd, ydy dydyn ni ddim yn cael ein gweld fel canolfannau celfyddydol yn yr un ffordd ag mae lleoedd megis Chapter neu Neuadd Dewi Sant yn cael eu gweld. Mae hynny â goblygiadau mawr i ni o ran yr ochr drwyddedu, achos mae yna reolau fwy caeth o ran nifer y bobl diogelwch mae'n rhaid i ni eu darparu, ac mae hynna yn cael effaith, yn amlwg, o ran costau trefnu digwyddiadau. Mae hefyd yn cael effaith o ran ein gallu ni i gael nawdd craidd i gynnal rhaglen o ddigwyddiadau. Dwi'n meddwl bod yna dal perception o leoedd grass-roots fel commercial entities. Ond y gwirionedd amdani, yn ein hachos ni a Chlwb y Bont, yw ein bod ni'n fudiadau nid-er-elw, a dyw e ddim yn sector rwyt ti'n mynd iddo i wneud arian; mae'n gynyddol anodd i gynnal y lleoedd yma ac, yn draddodiadol, mae'r rhan fwyaf o'r lleoedd yma wedi bod yn gweithredu heb unrhyw nawdd rheolaidd i gefnogi yr hyn maen nhw'n ei wneud.