English: A view from outside the area, but a view from somebody else who was on the Petitions Committee: one thing we know from the petition is that there are a very large number of people who want an A&E service at Withybush. A petition of 40,045 signatures is unprecedented. You actually need 5,000 signatures for the Petitions Committee to ask the Business Committee if we can have a debate on it. We could have eight debates on this, because it beats it by more than eight times. I think it does show the amount of interest there is and the amount of opposition there is to the idea of closing A&E in Withybush. And I can understand it. The idea is that there will no longer be a functioning A&E department within Pembrokeshire; it'll be replaced by a minor injury unit on the Withybush site. In doing so, patients requiring emergency care in Pembrokeshire will be facing a substantial journey. And I speak as somebody who quite often travels to north Wales, because my daughter is at Bangor University, and I know that, in 2.5 hours, I can get to Machynlleth, or, in 2.5 hours from where I live, I can get to Birmingham. I know which is the furthest away, but, if anybody can manage an average speed of over 40 mph in rural areas, I congratulate you, and can you explain how you manage it? The tractors - ambulances haven't got an ability to fly over tractors, have they? The problem you get with Mansel Davies lorries - no offence to Mansel Davies, but your lorries do clog up the road - and trailers, especially in the summer, when you've got lots of caravanners moving caravans. The road network is appalling. To Angela Burns - and Paul Davies will bear this out - you're not the only people who've been asking for the A40 to be dualled. I've asked for it, I've written about it, I've called for it. [ Interruption.] Certainly.
Welsh: Safbwynt o'r tu allan i'r ardal, ond safbwynt rhywun arall a oedd ar y Pwyllgor Deisebau: un peth a wyddom o'r ddeiseb yw bod nifer fawr iawn o bobl eisiau gwasanaeth damweiniau ac achosion brys yn Llwynhelyg. Mae deiseb o 40,045 o lofnodion yn ddigynsail. Mae angen ichi gael 5,000 o lofnodion er mwyn i'r Pwyllgor Deisebau ofyn i'r Pwyllgor Busnes os gallwn gael dadl ar y mater. Gallem gael wyth dadl ar hyn, oherwydd mae'r ddeiseb yn fwy nag wyth gwaith hynny. Rwy'n meddwl ei bod yn dangos faint o ddiddordeb sydd yn hyn a faint o wrthwynebiad a geir i'r syniad o gau'r adran damweiniau ac achosion brys yn Llwynhelyg. A gallaf ei ddeall. Y syniad yw na fydd adran damweiniau ac achosion brys weithredol yn Sir Benfro mwyach; caiff ei disodli gan uned mân anafiadau ar safle Llwynhelyg. Wrth wneud hynny, bydd cleifion sydd angen gofal brys yn Sir Benfro yn wynebu taith sylweddol. Ac rwy'n siarad fel rhywun sy'n aml yn teithio i ogledd Cymru, am fod fy merch ym Mhrifysgol Bangor, ac rwy'n gwybod, o fewn dwy awr a hanner, gallaf gyrraedd Machynlleth, neu o fewn dwy awr a hanner i lle rwy'n byw, gallaf gyrraedd Birmingham. Rwy'n gwybod pa un sydd bellaf, ond os gall unrhyw un deithio ar gyflymder cyfartalog o dros 40 mya mewn ardaloedd gwledig, hoffwn eich llongyfarch, ac a allwch chi egluro sut y llwyddwch i wneud hynny? Y tractorau - ers pryd y mae ambiwlansys yn gallu hedfan dros ben tractorau? Y broblem a gewch gyda lorïau Mansel Davies - heb amarch i Mansel Davies, ond mae eich lorïau'n creu tagfeydd ar y ffordd - a threlars, yn enwedig yn yr haf, pan fydd gennych lawer o garafanwyr yn symud carafanau. Mae'r rhwydwaith ffyrdd yn warthus. Angela Burns - a bydd Paul Davies yn ategu hyn - nid chi yw'r unig bobl sydd wedi bod yn gofyn am ddeuoli ffordd yr A40. Rwyf wedi gofyn am hynny, rwyf wedi ysgrifennu yn ei gylch, rwyf wedi galw am wneud hynny. [ Torri ar draws.] Yn sicr.