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English: I think the point I was making was the land. The land price will not increase. The money people will pay for the land will not increase. What will happen to that share of that market price is that more of it will go into taxation, and less of it will go into large profits for the owner. I think that's the difference. I believe that people shouldn't have this bit of serendipity or, 'I'm very lucky, I've got this bit of land, it's worth £1 million, if nobody collects tax on it, I get £1 million in my back pocket.' I think that we should get higher taxation on it, and I agree entirely with what the Cabinet Secretary has done. If land transaction tax above £1 million is reduced - from listening to others earlier, they'd abolish it altogether - who pays to make up this shortfall? Do we wish to raise it from those - ? [ Interruption.] Or do the Welsh Conservatives want to reduce public expenditure? I congratulate the finance Minister and Government on making land transaction tax more progressive. You don't know what people - . The rate is a very minor part when land is exchanged; it's who wants to buy it, why they want to buy it and what's available. With planning permission on 10 acres of land in the Vale of Glamorgan, it wouldn't matter if you were paying 50 or 100 per cent taxation, people would want to sell it and people would want to buy it.
Welsh: Credaf mai'r pwynt yr oeddwn yn ei wneud oedd y tir. Ni fydd pris y tir yn codi. Ni fydd yr arian y mae pobl yn ei dalu am y tir yn codi. Yr hyn fydd yn digwydd i'r gyfran honno o bris y farchnad yw y bydd mwy ohono'n mynd ar drethiant, a llai ohono'n mynd yn elw mawr i'r perchennog. Rwy'n credu mai dyna'r gwahaniaeth. Credaf na ddylai pobl gael serendipedd o'r fath, neu'r 'Rwy'n ffodus iawn, mae gennyf y darn hwn o dir, ac os nad oes neb yn casglu treth arno, bydd gennyf £1 filiwn yn fy mhoced ôl.' Credaf y dylem gael trethiant uwch arno, ac rwy'n cytuno'n llwyr â'r hyn a wnaeth Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet. Os gostyngir y dreth trafodiadau tir ar dir sy'n werth mwy nag £1 filiwn - o wrando ar eraill yn gynharach, byddent yn ei ddiddymu'n llwyr - pwy sy'n talu am y diffyg? A ydym yn dymuno ei godi gan y bobl - ? [ Torri ar draws.] Neu a yw'r Ceidwadwyr Cymreig am leihau gwariant cyhoeddus? Rwy'n llongyfarch y Gweinidog cyllid a'r Llywodraeth ar wneud y dreth trafodiadau tir yn un sy'n effeithio mwy ar y bobl gefnog. Nid ydych yn gwybod pa bobl - . Rhan fach iawn yw'r gyfradd pan fydd tir yn cael ei gyfnewid; mae'n fater o bwy sydd am ei brynu, pam y maent am ei brynu a beth sydd ar gael. Gyda chaniatâd cynllunio ar 10 erw o dir ym Mro Morgannwg, ni fyddai ots pe baech yn talu trethiant ar 50 neu 100 y cant, byddai pobl yn dymuno ei werthu a byddai pobl yn dymuno ei brynu.
English: Your future ambition is to move on. So, that's your future ambition.
Welsh: Eich uchelgais chi ar gyfer y dyfodol yw symud ymlaen. Felly, dyna yw eich uchelgais chi ar gyfer y dyfodol.
English: I think that perhaps one thing we should look at is reducing the tax burden on commercial investment by rewarding environmentally sensitive building techniques and practices and how they're going to use the building and other facilities they may have there that will be environmentally sustainable. Perhaps you could offer a few incentives there to mitigate the unfortunate decision you've made in this case.
Welsh: Credaf mai un peth y dylem edrych arno efallai yw lleihau baich y dreth ar fuddsoddiad masnachol drwy wobrwyo arferion a thechnegau adeiladu amgylcheddol sensitif a sut y maent yn mynd i ddefnyddio'r adeilad a chyfleusterau eraill a allai fod ganddynt yno a fydd yn gynaliadwy yn amgylcheddol. Efallai y gallech gynnig cymhellion yn hynny o beth i liniaru'r penderfyniad anffodus rydych wedi'i wneud yn yr achos hwn.
English: It's very fortunate, is it not, that the Tories are not in charge of Welsh Government finances? I just wanted to pick up on this fundamental mistake that the Conservatives have made in the second part of their motion, because it indicates that they have simply no grasp of the status of the Welsh Government or the purposes of the taxes that they are now so deriding. It's just lamentable really that you've been unable to check the accuracy of your own assertions before you submitted the motion. There can be no sensible suggestion of the Welsh Government seeking to avoid land transaction tax because the tax implications of both the stamp duty land tax and land transaction tax are exactly the same: nil. There is no tax liable where a purchase is made by the Crown, and that includes Welsh Ministers. So, I think to suggest that Welsh Ministers were trying to engage in the deliberate act of tax avoidance only months after we, the Assembly, considered legislation in which anti-avoidance rules formed a prominent part of the debate is pretty desperate. The exemption is clear on the face of the legislation. In Schedule 3 to the Act, entitled 'Transactions Exempt From Charge', under 'Acquisitions by the Crown', it states that paragraph 2 lists Government bodies that are exempt. This is consistent with the exact same rules of the stamp duty tax that preceded the land transaction tax.
Welsh: Mae'n ffodus iawn, onid yw, nad y Torïaid sy'n gyfrifol am gyllid Llywodraeth Cymru? Roeddwn am nodi'r camgymeriad sylfaenol hwn a wnaeth y Ceidwadwyr yn ail ran eu cynnig, oherwydd mae'n dangos nad oes ganddynt unrhyw ddealltwriaeth o statws Llywodraeth Cymru na dibenion y trethi y maent yn eu dibrisio i'r fath raddau. Mae'n druenus yn wir eich bod wedi methu gwirio cywirdeb eich honiadau eich hunain cyn ichi gyflwyno'r cynnig. Ni all fod unrhyw awgrym synhwyrol fod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi ceisio osgoi'r dreth trafodiadau tir oherwydd mae goblygiadau treth dir y dreth stamp a'r dreth trafodiadau tir yn union yr un fath: dim. Nid oes unrhyw dreth yn daladwy lle y gwneir pryniant gan y Goron, ac mae hynny'n cynnwys Gweinidogion Cymru. Felly, credaf fod awgrymu bod Gweinidogion Cymru yn ceisio cymryd rhan mewn gweithred fwriadol i osgoi treth fisoedd yn unig ar ôl i ni, y Cynulliad, ystyried deddfwriaeth lle'r oedd rheolau i atal osgoi talu trethi yn rhan amlwg o'r ddadl, yn crafu'r gwaelod braidd. Mae'r esemptiad yn glir ar wyneb y ddeddfwriaeth. Yn Atodlen 3 i'r Ddeddf, dan y teitl 'Trafodion sy'n esempt rhag codi treth arnynt', o dan 'Caffaeliadau gan y Goron', mae'n dweud bod paragraff 2 yn rhestru cyrff Llywodraeth sy'n esempt. Mae hyn yn gyson â'r un rheolau'n union â threth dir y dreth stamp a ragflaenodd y dreth trafodiadau tir.
English: Not at the moment. It's really disappointing that, after the passage of the Act, we are still having to clarify the purpose of the legislation in this way, particularly in response to a motion that proposes that this Government would engage in tax avoidance. As Mike Hedges has already made abundantly clear, that's absolutely not what is being spoken about, and instead we are looking at ways in which we can fund the ongoing wealth of our country. So -
Welsh: Ddim ar hyn o bryd. Mae'n wirioneddol siomedig, ar ôl pasio'r Ddeddf, ein bod yn dal i orfod egluro diben y ddeddfwriaeth yn y modd hwn, yn enwedig mewn ymateb i gynnig sy'n awgrymu y byddai'r Llywodraeth yn mynd ati i osgoi talu trethi. Fel y mae Mike Hedges eisoes wedi'i gyfleu'n gwbl glir, yn sicr ddigon nid siarad am hynny yr ydym, ac yn hytrach, rydym yn edrych ar ffyrdd y gallwn ariannu cyfoeth parhaus ein gwlad. Felly -
English: I'll give way now, yes.
Welsh: Fe ildiaf yn awr, gwnaf.
English: But is it not the case that, by stepping in and buying this site, the Welsh Government, which doesn't pay tax because of its Crown exemption, is avoiding tax that would be paid potentially by another of its partners? The guidance on the LTT says that if it's bought jointly with another public authority not so exempt, e.g. a local authority, the exemption won't apply, and then later the Welsh Government says it's going to be buying the offices. So, instead of the private sector, who may not want to pay the 6 per cent, Welsh Government, it says here, will buy the offices on the site, stepping in to avoid the tax.
Welsh: Ond onid yw'n wir, drwy gamu i mewn a phrynu'r safle hwn, fod Llywodraeth Cymru, nad yw'n talu treth oherwydd esemptiad y Goron, yn osgoi treth a fyddai'n cael ei thalu o bosibl gan un arall o'i phartneriaid? Dywed y canllawiau ar y dreth trafodiadau tir os caiff y tir ei brynu ar y cyd ag awdurdod cyhoeddus arall nad yw'n esempt yn y fath fodd, e.e. awdurdod lleol, ni fydd yr esemptiad yn gymwys, ac yna, yn ddiweddarach mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn dweud ei bod hi'n mynd i fod yn prynu'r swyddfeydd. Felly, yn hytrach na'r sector preifat, nad ydynt am dalu'r 6 y cant o bosibl, mae'n dweud yma y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn prynu'r swyddfeydd ar y safle, gan gamu i mewn i osgoi'r dreth.
English: Will the Minister give way? The purchase of this site, I understand, on 28 March, and then the granting of the 999-year lease on 29 March, took place under the SDLT regime. If it had taken place three days later, Ministers would not have avoided their own regime. I have raised very serious points about what happens to local authorities, what happens to other public sector bodies, why the Government is then coming in to look to buy the offices on this site, avoiding tax that the private sector would have to pay. Is it because of this 6 per cent rate, which means fewer private sector people will want to buy offices in Wales?
Welsh: A wnaiff y Gweinidog ildio? Rwy'n deall bod prynu'r safle hwn ar 28 Mawrth, a rhoi'r brydles 999 mlynedd ar 29 Mawrth, wedi digwydd o dan drefn treth dir y dreth stamp. Pe bai wedi digwydd dri diwrnod yn ddiweddarach, ni fyddai Gweinidogion wedi osgoi eu cyfundrefn eu hunain. Rwyf wedi codi pwyntiau difrifol iawn ynglŷn â beth sy'n digwydd i awdurdodau lleol, beth sy'n digwydd i gyrff sector cyhoeddus eraill, pam y mae'r Llywodraeth yn dod i mewn wedyn gyda bwriad i brynu'r swyddfeydd ar y safle hwn, gan osgoi treth y byddai'r sector preifat wedi gorfod ei thalu. Ai oherwydd y gyfradd hon o 6 y cant, sy'n golygu y bydd llai o bobl yn y sector preifat am brynu swyddfeydd yng Nghymru?
English: Had those been the points that the Member wished to concentrate on in this debate, he could have put them in the motion; he didn't. Instead, he put something else in on which he has been found out, and no amount of standing up here and spraying a set of other accusations around the room will detract from the point that his motion is defective; he knows it is, he's been found out in doing so. And the accusation is a serious one. Let's be clear about this: if it were true that a Welsh Government had deliberately set out to avoid tax, that is not -
Welsh: Pe bai'r Aelod wedi dymuno canolbwyntio ar y pwyntiau hynny yn y ddadl hon, gallai fod wedi eu rhoi yn y cynnig; ni wnaeth hynny. Yn lle hynny, rhoddodd rywbeth arall i mewn ac mae wedi cael ei ddal yn gwneud hynny, ac ni fydd codi ar ei draed a chwistrellu cyfres o gyhuddiadau eraill o amgylch yr ystafell yn tynnu sylw oddi ar y ffaith bod ei gynnig yn ddiffygiol; mae'n gwybod ei fod, mae wedi cael ei ddal yn gwneud hynny. Ac mae'r cyhuddiad yn un difrifol. Gadewch inni fod yn glir am hyn: pe bai'n wir fod Llywodraeth Cymru wedi mynd ati'n fwriadol i osgoi treth, nid yw hynny -
English: I'm grateful to the Cabinet Secretary for taking an intervention. Do you recognise, though, that whilst the percentage terms of number of deals is relatively small, this is the most mobile sector of the market, which can invest that money elsewhere, and, in the letter that you received from the industry itself, it says: 'As industry experts, we are already seeing reducing asset valuations and investors who no longer consider Wales as a direct consequence of this policy.' Do you recognise those concerns, Cabinet Secretary?
Welsh: Diolch i Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet am dderbyn ymyriad. A ydych yn cydnabod, fodd bynnag, er bod canran y nifer o gytundebau yn gymharol fach, dyma'r sector mwyaf symudol yn y farchnad, a gall fuddsoddi'r arian hwnnw mewn mannau eraill, ac yn y llythyr a gawsoch gan y diwydiant ei hun, mae'n dweud: Fel arbenigwyr diwydiant, rydym eisoes yn gweld gostyngiad ym mhrisiadau asedau a buddsoddwyr nad ydynt yn ystyried Cymru mwyach o ganlyniad uniongyrchol i'r polisi hwn. A ydych yn cydnabod y pryderon hynny, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet?
English: Llywydd, the Government will oppose the Conservative motion today. We're pleased to support the Plaid Cymru amendments. We are already committed to keeping under review all of the taxes for which we have responsibility. We will seek to do that at the earliest practical opportunity and, most importantly of all, we will do it on the basis of the actual evidence, which only experience itself can provide.
Welsh: Lywydd, bydd y Llywodraeth yn gwrthwynebu cynnig y Ceidwadwyr heddiw. Rydym yn falch o gefnogi gwelliannau Plaid Cymru. Rydym eisoes yn ymrwymedig i gadw'r holl drethi y mae gennym gyfrifoldeb drostynt dan adolygiad. Byddwn yn ceisio gwneud hynny ar y cyfle ymarferol cyntaf ac yn bwysicaf oll, byddwn yn gwneud hynny ar sail y dystiolaeth go iawn na all ond profiad yn unig ei darparu.
English: Diolch, Llywydd. Well, we may well have emerged, on this side, from the dark side of planet Thatcher, but this afternoon we've well and truly landed on planet Corbyn, haven't we? Can I thank everyone who contributed to this afternoon's debate? There are many of you; I'll try and mention as many of you as I can, but it may be difficult to include everyone. As the Cabinet Secretary has reminded us in the past and again reminded us today, phase 1 of tax devolution is over; the next stage is implementation and the all-important monitoring. Mark Reckless, in opening, highlighted the need to listen to the sector, to listen to businesses and their concerns and to then respond to those. And we are concerned, on this side of the Chamber at least, that the higher 6 per cent rate on commercial transactions over £1 million will harm businesses. It's not only us who're saying that; it's also the sector. Businesses are telling us that, our post bags are telling us that; I'm sure that AMs in other parties are also getting the same concerns. Maybe it's not in their interest to listen - [ Interruption.] - one minute - to those in the same way, but, certainly, it is disingenuous to say that those concerns are not being made. Mike Hedges.
Welsh: Diolch, Lywydd. Wel, efallai'n wir ein bod, ar yr ochr hon, wedi dod o ochr dywyll planed Thatcher, ond y prynhawn yma rydym wedi glanio'n bendant iawn ar blaned Corbyn, onid ydym? A gaf fi ddiolch i bawb a gyfrannodd at y ddadl y prynhawn yma? Mae yna lawer ohonoch; fe geisiaf sôn am gynifer ohonoch ag y gallaf, ond gallai fod yn anodd cynnwys pawb. Fel y cawsom ein hatgoffa gan Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet yn y gorffennol ac unwaith eto heddiw, mae cyfnod 1 o ddatganoli trethi ar ben; y cyfnod nesaf fydd gweithredu a'r monitro hollbwysig. Wrth agor, amlygodd Mark Reckless yr angen i wrando ar y sector, i wrando ar fusnesau a'u pryderon ac ymateb i hynny wedyn. Ac rydym yn pryderu, ar yr ochr hon i'r Siambr o leiaf, y bydd y gyfradd uwch o 6 y cant ar drafodiadau masnachol dros £1 filiwn yn niweidio busnesau. Nid ni yn unig sy'n dweud hynny; mae'r sector yn dweud hynny hefyd. Mae busnesau'n dweud hynny wrthym, mae ein bagiau post yn dweud hynny wrthym; rwy'n siŵr fod yr un pryderon gan ACau yn y pleidiau eraill hefyd. Efallai nad yw o fudd iddynt wrando - [ Torri ar draws.] - un funud - ar y rheini yn yr un modd, ond yn sicr, nid yw'n onest i ddweud nad yw'r pryderon hynny'n cael eu lleisio. Mike Hedges.
English: Can you give me an example of a sector asking to pay more tax?
Welsh: A allwch roi enghraifft i mi o sector sy'n gofyn am gael talu mwy o dreth?
English: Well, that's a typical Mike Hedges comment, isn't it? So, basically, you're not denying that you've also had concerns from the sector about a higher rate.
Welsh: Wel, dyna sylw nodweddiadol o Mike Hedges, onid e? Felly, yn y bôn, nid ydych yn gwadu eich bod chi hefyd wedi clywed pryderon o'r sector ynglŷn â chyfradd uwch.
English: But all sectors ask to pay less tax.
Welsh: Ond mae pob sector yn gofyn am gael talu llai o dreth.
English: Yes, okay. I'll touch on it when I come to your comments later. I've lost my place now. And, yes, my former colleague on the Finance Committee will remember his drive and our drive to get the rates on the face of the Bill, because even back then - . I understand that there were concerns from some of the civil servants to do that, and from the Government to do that, but, at that time, we thought that that was a way to provide clarity to the sector, to reassure the sector, that this difficult time of a change in - I hate to use the word - regime, which has caused so much unpleasantness here this afternoon, but in that change from the UK tax regime to the new Welsh tax regime, we thought that there was a merit in having a certain sort of stability at that point. That was the point that we were trying to make.
Welsh: Iawn. Fe soniaf am hynny pan ddof at eich sylwadau yn nes ymlaen. Rwyf wedi colli fy lle nawr. A, ie, bydd fy nghyn gyd-aelod o'r Pwyllgor Cyllid yn cofio ei ymgyrch a'n hymgyrch ni i gael y cyfraddau ar wyneb y Bil, oherwydd hyd yn oed bryd hynny - . Rwy'n deall bod pryderon gan rai o'r gweision sifil ynglŷn â gwneud hynny, a chan y Llywodraeth ynglŷn â gwneud hynny, ond ar y pryd, roeddem yn meddwl bod honno'n ffordd o ddarparu eglurder ar gyfer y sector, o dawelu meddwl y sector, fod yr adeg anodd hon o newid - mae'n gas gennyf ddefnyddio'r gair - cyfundrefn, sydd wedi achosi cymaint o annifyrrwch yma y prynhawn yma, ond yn y newid hwnnw o gyfundrefn dreth y DU i gyfundrefn dreth newydd Cymru, roeddem yn tybio bod yna rinwedd mewn cael rhyw fath o sefydlogrwydd ar yr adeg honno. Dyna oedd y pwynt yr oeddem yn ceisio ei wneud.
English: The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] I will therefore defer voting under this item until voting time.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Felly, gohiriaf y bleidlais ar yr eitem tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: That brings us to the next item, with is the United Kingdom Independence Party debate on a minimum price for alcohol, and I call on Neil Hamilton to move the motion.
Welsh: Mae hynny'n dod â ni at yr eitem nesaf, sef dadl Plaid Annibyniaeth y Deyrnas Unedig ar isafbris am alcohol, ac rydw i'n galw ar Neil Hamilton i wneud y cynnig.
English: You said at the beginning of this speech that this was akin to a tax. Isn't the big difference with Scandinavia that, there, it is a tax, and at least the revenues can be used to support high-quality public services? Here, the money raised would just go as higher profits to the private companies who produce them and sell them.
Welsh: Fe ddywedoch ar ddechrau'r araith hon fod hyn yn debyg i dreth. Onid y gwahaniaeth mawr o gymharu â Sgandinafia yw ei bod hi'n dreth yno, ac o leiaf fe ellir defnyddio'r refeniw i gefnogi gwasanaethau cyhoeddus o ansawdd uchel? Yma, byddai'r arian a godir ond yn creu elw uwch i'r cwmnïau preifat sy'n eu cynhyrchu a'u gwerthu.
English: I have selected the three amendments to the motion. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be deselected. If amendment 2 is agreed, amendment 3 will be deselected. I call on Suzy Davies to move amendment 1 tabled in the name of Paul Davies.
Welsh: Rwyf wedi dethol y tri gwelliant i'r cynnig. Os derbynnir gwelliant 1, caiff gwelliannau 2 a 3 eu dad-ddethol. Os derbynnir gwelliant 2, caiff gwelliant 3 ei ddad-ddethol. Galwaf ar Suzy Davies i gynnig gwelliant 1 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies.
English: I call on the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Services to formally move amendment 2, tabled in the name of Julie James.
Welsh: Galwaf ar Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol i gynnig yn ffurfiol welliant 2 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Julie James.
English: Thank you, Llywydd, and I formally move the amendment. I'm pleased to participate in this debate, because I do think it's an opportunity for us to explain some of the principles at the heart of what we are discussing. I was reading an interesting article earlier today on the relationship between the price of tobacco in the US and smoking habits and on the population there. It takes us back to the 1880s, when production methods for the American Tobacco Company enabled them to corner the market. It then takes us through to the 1960s and the first medical reports on the dangers of smoking and the increasing taxation that came as a result of that. The conclusion of the report is no surprise at all:
Welsh: Diolch, Llywydd, ac rwy'n cynnig y gwelliant yn ffurfiol. Rwy'n falch o gael cymryd rhan yn y ddadl yma achos rwy'n meddwl ei bod yn gyfle inni egluro rhai o'r egwyddorion sydd wrth wraidd yr hyn yr ydym yn ei drafod. Roeddwn yn darllen erthygl ddifyr yn gynharach heddiw am y berthynas rhwng pris tybaco yn America ac arferion ysmygu'r boblogaeth. Roedd yn mynd â ni yn ôl i'r 1880au, pan wnaeth dulliau cynhyrchu newydd sigaréts gan yr American Tobacco Company eu galluogi nhw i gorneli'r farchnad. Mae'n mynd â ni wedyn drwodd i'r 1960au a'r adroddiadau meddygol cyntaf am beryglon smocio a'r cynnydd ddaeth mewn trethi wedyn. Nid yw casgliad yr adroddiad yn synnu dim arnom ni:
English: 'Pricing and price related promotions are among the most important marketing tools employed by tobacco companies. Future tobacco control efforts that aim to raise prices and limit price related marketing efforts are likely to be important in achieving reductions in tobacco use'.
Welsh: Roedd prisio a hyrwyddiadau sy'n gysylltiedig â phris ymhlith yr arfau marchnata pwysicaf a gâi eu defnyddio gan gwmnïau tybaco. Mae ymdrechion i reoli tybaco yn y dyfodol sy'n anelu i godi prisiau a chyfyngu ar ymdrechion marchnata sy'n gysylltiedig â phris yn debygol o fod yn bwysig i sicrhau lleihad yn y defnydd o dybaco. '.
English: Do you understand that this piece of legislation isn't really aimed at getting alcoholics to stop drinking? Alcoholics will, you're quite right, seek alcohol out in any way they can. Efforts need to be made - more efforts - from Government to help alcoholics come off alcohol, but we are talking here about hazardous drinkers, who can be persuaded through price incentives to perhaps behave in a different way.
Welsh: A ydych yn deall nad yw'r darn hwn o ddeddfwriaeth wedi'i anelu go iawn at gael alcoholigion i roi'r gorau i yfed? Rydych yn llygad eich lle, bydd alcoholigion yn dod o hyd i alcohol mewn unrhyw ffordd y gallant wneud hynny. Rhaid i'r Llywodraeth wneud ymdrech - mwy o ymdrech - i helpu alcoholigion i roi'r gorau i alcohol, ond rydym yn sôn yma am rai sy'n yfed i raddau peryglus, pobl y gellir eu darbwyllo drwy gymhellion pris i ymddwyn mewn ffordd wahanol o bosibl.
English: - certainly - given the drink patterns that we're familiar with. I give way to Simon Thomas.
Welsh: - yn sicr - o ystyried y patrymau yfed rydym yn gyfarwydd â hwy. Ildiaf i Simon Thomas.