English: Well, I think the Member has made his points very, very well, and they're ones that, certainly, I'm very focused on. And perhaps to add to some of the examples that he gave, I would also express concern that some of those pieces of legislation that we will need to consider, because of their implications for devolution, actually go to the heart of our democracy and the democracy of the United Kingdom - the proposals in respect of judicial review, the worst of which were actually removed by the previous Lord Chancellor. And I have this great fear that, from indications of things that are being said by the new Lord Chancellor, there is an intention to reintroduce that; the issue of the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Sentencing Bill, which would be a significant restriction on the right of civic protest. And we see now even the intention to introduce legislation to actually significantly restrict the issue of human rights within our legal system. These are all things that I think we regard as very, very significant and very important, whether it be democracy within Wales, or whether it be democracy within the United Kingdom. What I can tell the Member is that, in terms of the legislative consent system, of course there are areas where - pieces of legislation - there will be potential overlaps and so on, and so the process is one that is important, in considering where there may be mutual benefits or not, or where there may be intrusions into devolved responsibilities. But the fact of the matter is that what is happening at the moment, I believe, is an onslaught on devolved responsibilities, it is an attempt to undermine devolved responsibilities, and I believe it actually undermines the democratic mandate that we have. So, in considering all legislative consent memoranda, and to get an understanding of the global impact of them collectively, as well as those other processes, such as memoranda of understanding, the sort of despatch box agreements, is to evaluate the impact that they have in every respect in terms of the devolution settlement, with a view that legislation on Welsh matters should be pursued within Wales itself. Where there are areas of common interest, it's on the proviso, except in exceptional circumstances, that it does not undermine devolution or result in a transfer of powers from this place. It is a very, very difficult environment. I am hopeful that maybe the inter-governmental review, and the outcome of that, may improve the situation. But, as I said yesterday in discussing these matters, they do not provide the fundamental constitutional floor that I think is one that we actually need, and one that the commission we were referring to just earlier I think will no doubt consider.
Welsh: Wel, rwy'n credu bod yr Aelod wedi gwneud ei bwyntiau'n dda iawn, ac maent yn rhai yr wyf fi, yn sicr, yn canolbwyntio'n fawr arnynt. Ac efallai, i ychwanegu at rai o'r enghreifftiau a roddodd, byddwn hefyd yn mynegi pryder fod peth o'r ddeddfwriaeth y bydd angen inni ei hystyried, oherwydd ei goblygiadau i ddatganoli, yn mynd at wraidd ein democratiaeth a democratiaeth y Deyrnas Unedig - yr argymhellion mewn perthynas ag adolygiad barnwrol, y cafodd y gwaethaf ohonynt eu dileu gan yr Arglwydd Ganghellor blaenorol. Ac mae gennyf ofn mawr, o'r math o bethau a ddywedir gan yr Arglwydd Ganghellor newydd, fod bwriad i ailgyflwyno hynny; mater Bil yr Heddlu, Troseddu, Dedfrydu a'r Llysoedd, a fyddai'n gyfyngiad sylweddol ar yr hawl i brotest gyhoeddus. A gwelwn yn awr y bwriad hyd yn oed i gyflwyno deddfwriaeth i gyfyngu'n sylweddol ar fater hawliau dynol o fewn ein system gyfreithiol. Mae'r rhain i gyd yn bethau y credaf ein bod yn eu hystyried yn arwyddocaol a phwysig tu hwnt, boed yn ddemocratiaeth o fewn Cymru, neu'n ddemocratiaeth o fewn y Deyrnas Unedig. Yr hyn y gallaf ei ddweud wrth yr Aelod, mewn perthynas â system y cydsyniad deddfwriaethol, yw bod yna feysydd wrth gwrs - darnau o ddeddfwriaeth - lle bydd gorgyffwrdd posibl ac yn y blaen, ac felly mae'r broses yn un sy'n bwysig, wrth ystyried ble y gallai fod manteision i'r ddwy ochr ai peidio, neu ble y gallai fod ymyrraeth i gyfrifoldebau datganoledig. Ond y gwir amdani yw bod yr hyn sy'n digwydd ar hyn o bryd yn fy marn i yn ymosodiad ar gyfrifoldebau datganoledig, mae'n ymgais i danseilio cyfrifoldebau datganoledig, ac rwy'n credu mewn gwirionedd ei fod yn tanseilio'r mandad democrataidd sydd gennym. Felly, i ystyried yr holl femoranda cydsyniad deddfwriaethol, ac i gael dealltwriaeth o'u heffaith gyffredinol gyda'i gilydd, yn ogystal â'r prosesau eraill, megis memoranda dealltwriaeth, y math o gytundebau blwch dogfennau, golyga werthuso'r effaith a gânt ym mhob ystyr o ran y setliad datganoli, gyda'r farn mai yng Nghymru ei hun y dylid mynd ar drywydd deddfwriaeth ar faterion Cymreig. Lle ceir meysydd o ddiddordeb cyffredin, mae ar yr amod, ac eithrio mewn amgylchiadau eithriadol, nad yw'n tanseilio datganoli nac yn arwain at drosglwyddo pwerau o'r lle hwn. Mae'n amgylchedd anodd tu hwnt. Rwy'n obeithiol y gallai'r adolygiad rhynglywodraethol a'i ganlyniad wella'r sefyllfa. Ond fel y dywedais ddoe wrth drafod y materion hyn, nid ydynt yn darparu'r sylfaen gyfansoddiadol hanfodol sydd ei hangen arnom mewn gwirionedd yn fy marn i, ac un y bydd y comisiwn yr oeddem yn cyfeirio ato ychydig yn gynharach yn sicr o'i ystyried.