English: Well, thank you for that clarification. It would be useful to know from the Minister, at the end of this debate, if that remains the Government's position as well. In terms of the other airport that Carwyn Jones mentioned, of course that was purchased for a fair price. I don't know the details of that particular airport, but what I will say is this: we, on these benches here, do believe that Cardiff Airport would be best run in private ownership. We don't believe that Governments are good - . They're not aviation experts and we believe that the airport is better run in private ownership. But I appreciate, as Mick Antoniw said, that there's a difference of philosophy in terms of where we stand on this. You can still support an airport without buying an airport, of course. But let's also have an honest debate in this Chamber about where we're at as well. Previously the Government has talked about the increase in passenger numbers. Yes, it's great that the passenger numbers are growing, but let's remember that in 2007 passenger numbers were at 2.1 million and the Government's own plans and projections tell us that we'll hit that 2 million figure, which is an important figure in terms of the break-even point we're told, when the airport will return back to making a profit, we were told originally that that would be in 2021, now we're told that that will be in 2025. So, we've got to put into context some of these figures. There's often a lot of spin, I'm afraid, around some of the statistics that we see in terms of the airport. Let's also be realistic about the financial position of the airport. Since it's been in Government ownership, there's been pre-tax losses that have been made every single year whilst it's been in the Government's ownership, and £18.5 million of pre-tax losses last year. Also, of course, in 2014 the net assets of the airport were worth £48 million and now they're worth - according to the balance sheet of the airport - £15.7 million. I appreciate what the Government Minister says in terms of the value of the airport in terms of other wider economic benefits, but let's also remember these statistics at the same time. I appreciate that I'm running out of time, but I think I took an intervention. Am I allowed a couple more minutes?
Welsh: Wel, diolch am yr eglurhad yna. Byddai'n ddefnyddiol cael gwybod gan y Gweinidog, ar ddiwedd y ddadl hon, os mai dyna yw safbwynt y Llywodraeth hefyd. O ran y maes awyr arall y soniodd Carwyn Jones amdano, wrth gwrs, fe brynwyd hwnnw am bris teg. Nid wyf yn gwybod beth yw manylion y maes awyr penodol hwnnw, ond yr hyn a ddywedaf yw hyn: rydym ni, ar y meinciau hyn yn y fan yma, yn credu y byddai Maes Awyr Caerdydd yn cael ei redeg orau mewn perchenogaeth breifat. Dydym ni ddim yn credu bod Llywodraethau'n dda - . Dydyn nhw ddim yn arbenigwyr ar hedfan a chredwn fod y maes awyr yn cael ei redeg yn well mewn perchnogaeth breifat. Ond rwy'n sylweddoli, fel y dywedodd Mick Antoniw, bod gwahaniaeth athroniaeth o ran ein safbwynt ar hyn. Gallwch barhau i gefnogi maes awyr heb brynu maes awyr, wrth gwrs. Ond gadewch i ni hefyd gael dadl onest yn y Siambr hon am ble yr ydym ni arni hefyd. Yn y gorffennol mae'r Llywodraeth wedi sôn am y cynnydd yn nifer y teithwyr. Ydy, mae'n wych bod niferoedd y teithwyr yn cynyddu, ond gadewch i ni gofio bod nifer y teithwyr yn 2007 yn 2.1 miliwn ac mae cynlluniau ac amcanestyniadau'r Llywodraeth ei hun yn dweud wrthym y byddwn yn cyrraedd y ffigur hwnnw o 2 filiwn, y dywedir wrthym sy'n ffigur pwysig o ran y trothwy elw, pan fydd y maes awyr yn gwneud elw drachefn, dywedwyd wrthym yn wreiddiol y byddai hynny yn 2021, nawr dywedir wrthym y bydd hynny yn 2025. Felly, mae'n rhaid i ni roi rhai o'r ffigurau hyn mewn cyd-destun. Yn aml mae llawer o ystumio, mae arnaf ofn, ynghylch rhai o'r ystadegau a welwn yn nhermau'r maes awyr. Gadewch i ni fod yn realistig hefyd am sefyllfa ariannol y maes awyr. Ers iddo fod ym mherchnogaeth y Llywodraeth, bu colledion cyn treth bob blwyddyn tra bu ym mherchnogaeth y Llywodraeth, a £18.5 miliwn o golledion cyn treth y llynedd. Hefyd, wrth gwrs, yn 2014 roedd asedau net y maes awyr yn werth £48 miliwn ac erbyn hyn maen nhw'n werth - yn ôl mantolen y maes awyr - £15.7 miliwn. Rwy'n sylweddoli'r hyn y mae Gweinidog y Llywodraeth yn ei ddweud o ran gwerth y maes awyr o ran manteision economaidd ehangach eraill, ond gadewch inni gofio'r ystadegau hyn hefyd ar yr un pryd. Rwy'n sylweddoli bod fy amser yn prinhau, ond rwy'n credu fy mod wedi derbyn ymyriad. A yw hi'n iawn imi gael ychydig funudau yn fwy?