English: Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd. And I move amendment 5. Before I speak to amendment 5, can I just say a few words about Carl Sargeant, who was, of course, the Cabinet Secretary at Stages 1 and 2 of this Bill? I have to say, after concluding Stage 2, in which there were many very serious debates around issues of principle, I never for a moment thought that I would be in this position of having to push at Stage 3 my amendments and have a different person respond. I found Carl throughout the debate courteous, fair and formidable, it has to be said. And there weren't many responses made in terms of conceding to what we were calling for at Stage 2, but I'm sure he would've expected me to have made the full argument here in Plenary for genuine points of principle where we disagree, but, in respect of this Bill, where we believe it would improve the Bill, given that the Assembly is now minded to have some form of abolition. So, then, if I may move, Llywydd, to the purpose of amendment 5, which is to remove the suspensions of the right to buy and associated rights in the areas that are currently designated as suspended under the Housing (Wales) Measure 2011. Currently, they are Cardiff, Anglesey, Carmarthenshire, Swansea, Flintshire and Denbighshire. This will allow qualifying tenants in those areas to exercise their rights like any other qualifying tenants across Wales, up until the abolition comes into effect. Amendments 14, 9, 11, 1 and 3 are consequential amendments that are required to make the lead amendment effective. Llywydd, I've submitted amendment 5 because of how unfair I believe the Abolition of the Right to Buy and Associated Rights (Wales) Bill would be if it were implemented as it currently stands. If the Government is intent on completely removing the right to utilise the right to buy for those tenants in the six suspended authorities, whilst extending a grace period to tenants in the remaining 16 authorities, then effectively the Government would be creating two categories of tenants on this fundamental matter. There could be, in my view, serious human rights implications on this issue, and I don't think the Government has adequately yet responded to these concerns at any stage of consideration so far. During the Stage 1 evidence sessions of the committee, we saw how much of an issue this was. Some of the contributors highlighted that, in areas where a suspension was currently in place, not allowing tenants the opportunity to purchase their home prior to abolition could be seen as unfair. I think this point was impressed on all members of the committee, even if they didn't move their position ultimately. The evidence was strong. During the evidence sessions, the representatives of the City and County of Swansea stated that they had already experienced tenants who were voicing complaints over the unfairness of not being given the opportunity to buy their homes before abolition comes into effect. Other respondents, including Shelter Cymru, stressed that more consideration should be given to this issue of equity. The Welsh Government has conceded that representations have been received from individual tenants, and I know we all can appreciate that because we've received many responses as well from concerned constituents. Indeed, the Cabinet Secretary, when he replied to this amendment at Stage 2, conceded the point and said that he understood the reasoning behind these amendments in respect of making representations of individuals. I believe that this amendment is vital if we are to be fair to all tenants across Wales, in offering them one last opportunity to purchase their home, and I hope that the Chamber bears this in mind when considering this amendment. I so move.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd. Ac rwyf yn cynnig gwelliant 5. Cyn imi siarad am welliant 5, a gaf i ddweud ychydig eiriau am Carl Sargeant, a oedd, wrth gwrs, yn Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet yng Nghyfnodau 1 a 2 y Bil hwn? Rhaid imi ddweud, ar ôl cwblhau cyfnod 2, lle'r oedd llawer o ddadleuon difrifol iawn ynghylch materion o egwyddor, ni chredais am eiliad y byddwn yn y sefyllfa hon o orfod gwthio fy ngwelliannau yng Nghyfnod 3 a chael person gwahanol yn ymateb. Drwy gydol y ddadl, roeddwn yn ystyried Carl i fod yn gwrtais, yn deg ac yn anodd ei drechu, rhaid dweud. Ac ni chafwyd llawer o ymatebion o ran ildio i'r hyn yr oeddem yn galw amdano yng Nghyfnod 2, ond rwy'n siŵr y byddai wedi disgwyl imi roi'r ddadl lawn yma yn y cyfarfod llawn ar gyfer pwyntiau dilys o egwyddor lle'r ydym yn anghytuno, ond, mewn perthynas â'r Bil hwn, lle credwn y byddai'n gwella'r Bil, o ystyried bod y Cynulliad yn awr yn ystyried rhyw fath o ddiddymu. Felly, os caf gynnig, Llywydd, i bwrpas gwelliant 5, sydd yn cael gwared ar ataliadau dros dro ar yr hawl i brynu a hawliau cysylltiedig yn yr ardaloedd sydd wedi'u dynodi i fod wedi'u hatal dros dro ar hyn o bryd dan Fesur Tai (Cymru) 2011. Ar hyn o bryd, y rhain yw Caerdydd, Ynys Môn, Sir Gaerfyrddin, Abertawe, Sir y Fflint a Sir Ddinbych. Bydd hyn yn galluogi tenantiaid cymwys yn yr ardaloedd hynny i arfer eu hawliau fel unrhyw denantiaid cymwys eraill ledled Cymru, hyd nes bydd y diddymiad yn dod i rym. Mae gwelliannau 14, 9, 11, 1 a 3 yn welliannau canlyniadol y mae eu hangen i wneud y prif welliant yn effeithiol. Llywydd, rwyf wedi cyflwyno gwelliant 5 oherwydd credaf y byddai Bil Diddymu'r Hawl i Brynu a Hawliau Cysylltiedig (Cymru) wedi bod yn annheg, pe byddai'n cael ei weithredu fel y saif ar hyn o bryd. Os yw'r Llywodraeth yn benderfynol o gael gwared yn gyfan gwbl ar yr hawl i ddefnyddio'r hawl i brynu ar gyfer y tenantiaid hynny yn y chwe awdurdod a ataliwyd dros dro, tra'n ymestyn cyfnod gras i denantiaid yn yr 16 awdurdod sy'n weddill, yna i bob pwrpas byddai'r Llywodraeth yn creu dau gategori o denantiaid ar y mater sylfaenol hwn. Gallai fod, yn fy marn i, oblygiadau hawliau dynol difrifol ar y mater hwn, ac nid wyf yn credu bod y Llywodraeth wedi ymateb yn ddigonol hyd yma i'r pryderon hyn yn ystod unrhyw gam o'r ystyriaethau hyd yn hyn. Yn ystod sesiynau tystiolaeth Cyfnod 1 y Pwyllgor, gwelsom gymaint o broblem oedd hyn. Amlygodd rhai o'r cyfranwyr, mewn ardaloedd lle'r oedd ataliad dros dro ar waith ar hyn o bryd, y gellid ystyried bod peidio â rhoi'r cyfle i denantiaid brynu eu cartref cyn diddymu yn annheg. Credaf fod y pwynt hwn wedi cael ei bwysleisio ar bob aelod o'r Pwyllgor, hyd yn oed os na wnaethant newid eu safbwynt yn y pen draw. Roedd y dystiolaeth yn gryf. Yn ystod y sesiynau tystiolaeth, dywedodd cynrychiolwyr o Ddinas a Sir Abertawe eu bod eisoes wedi cael profiad o denantiaid oedd yn mynegi cwynion ynghylch annhegwch peidio â chael cyfle i brynu eu cartrefi cyn i'r diddymu ddod i rym. Pwysleisiodd ymatebwyr eraill, gan gynnwys Shelter Cymru, y dylid rhoi mwy o ystyriaeth i'r mater hwn o ecwiti. Mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi cyfaddef ei bod wedi cael sylwadau gan denantiaid unigol, a gwn y gall pob un ohonom werthfawrogi hynny oherwydd rwyf i wedi derbyn llawer o ymatebion hefyd gan etholwyr pryderus. Yn wir, fe wnaeth Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, pan ymatebodd i'r gwelliant hwn yng Nghyfnod 2, ildio'r pwynt a dweud ei fod yn deall y rhesymeg y tu ôl i'r gwelliannau hyn mewn cysylltiad â gwneud sylwadau unigolion. Credaf fod y gwelliant hwn yn hanfodol os ydym i fod yn deg â'r holl denantiaid ledled Cymru, wrth gynnig iddynt un cyfle olaf i brynu eu cartref, a gobeithio y bydd y Siambr yn cadw hyn mewn cof wrth ystyried y gwelliant hwn. Rwy'n gwneud y cynnig felly.