English: Amendment 9, proposed by Rhys ab Owen, would add disposable e-cigarettes to the Schedule, meaning that they would be banned. Amendments 6, 8 and 10 are consequential to this amendment. Of course we recognise that there's anecdotal evidence of an increased littering problem with single-use e-cigarettes, but this is a complex area, as Rhys himself has just set out, and requires much further evidence gathering before we consider whether a ban is the most appropriate action. From a health perspective, we have indeed historically had a cautious approach to e-cigarette products in Wales, given that the evidence on their long-term effects is developing and given their potential appeal to children and young people. Just to be absolutely clear, Llywydd, e-cigarettes should never be used by children, young people, or anyone who is a non-smoker. However, we recognise that, for some people, e-cigarettes and other nicotine products are useful tools to help them stop smoking, with current evidence suggesting that they're substantially less harmful than smoking tobacco. In the 2018-19 national survey for Wales, which is the most recent survey where people were asked why they used e-cigarettes, 76 per cent of current e-cigarette users stated their reason for using e-cigarettes was to help them quit smoking tobacco products. We very much need to investigate and balance these factors before coming to a decision on what action to take on the littering of e-cigarettes. So, for this reason, I'm unable to support amendments 6, 8, 9 or 10. Turning to amendment 7, which seeks to add disposable e-cigarettes to the list of products appearing in section 4, which relates to the requirement to consider and then report on the potential banning of disposable e-cigarettes, while I agree in principle at looking at e-cigarettes further, I cannot accept this amendment at this time, as the Member has not defined 'disposable'. Further consideration of these products' current use and the type of products marketed as 'disposable' would be required. We do need to be clear about which products we're actually looking at. I therefore cannot support amendment 7, although, of course, the absence of a specific reference to e-cigarettes in section 4 will not preclude us from considering whether certain single-use plastic types of e-cigarettes should be banned, nor from reporting to the Senedd on that consideration, as we will do with other products in respect of which we're considering taking action in the future. I will certainly be asking my policy officials to work with their colleagues in health to begin the work needed, as we consider this matter from both a health and an environmental perspective. Diolch.
Welsh: Byddai gwelliant 9, a gynigiwyd gan Rhys ab Owen, yn ychwanegu e-sigaréts tafladwy at yr Atodlen, sy'n golygu y byddent yn cael eu gwahardd. Mae gwelliannau 6, 8 a 10 yn ganlyniadol i'r gwelliant hwn. Wrth gwrs rydym yn cydnabod bod tystiolaeth anecdotaidd o broblem sbwriel gynyddol gydag e-sigaréts untro, ond mae hwn yn faes cymhleth, fel nododd Rhys ei hun, ac yn gofyn am gasglu llawer mwy o dystiolaeth cyn i ni ystyried ai gwaharddiad yw'r cam mwyaf priodol. O safbwynt iechyd, yn wir, rydym yn hanesyddol wedi bod ag agwedd bwyllog tuag at gynhyrchion e-sigarét yng Nghymru, o ystyried bod y dystiolaeth am eu heffeithiau hir dymor yn datblygu ac o ystyried eu hapêl bosibl i blant a phobl ifanc. Dim ond i fod yn hollol glir, Llywydd, ni ddylai e-sigaréts fyth gael eu defnyddio gan blant, pobl ifanc, nac unrhyw un nad yw'n ysmygu. Fodd bynnag, rydym yn cydnabod, i rai pobl, fod e-sigaréts a chynhyrchion nicotin eraill yn offer defnyddiol i'w helpu i roi'r gorau i ysmygu, gyda'r dystiolaeth bresennol yn awgrymu eu bod yn sylweddol llai niweidiol nag ysmygu tybaco. Yn arolwg cenedlaethol Cymru 2018-19, sef yr arolwg diweddaraf pan ofynnwyd i bobl pam yr oedden nhw'n defnyddio e-sigaréts, nododd 76 y cant o ddefnyddwyr e-sigaréts presennol mai eu rheswm dros ddefnyddio e-sigaréts oedd i'w helpu nhw i roi'r gorau i ysmygu cynhyrchion tybaco. Mae angen dybryd i ni ymchwilio a chydbwyso'r ffactorau hyn cyn dod i benderfyniad ar ba gamau i'w cymryd ynghylch taflu sbwriel e-sigaréts. Felly, am y rheswm hwn, nid wyf yn gallu cefnogi gwelliannau 6, 8, 9 na 10. Gan droi at welliant 7, sy'n ceisio ychwanegu e-sigaréts tafladwy at y rhestr o gynhyrchion sy'n ymddangos yn adran 4, sy'n ymwneud â'r gofyniad i ystyried ac yna adrodd ar y posibilrwydd o wahardd e-sigaréts tafladwy, tra fy mod i'n cytuno mewn egwyddor ar edrych ar e-sigaréts ymhellach, ni allaf dderbyn y gwelliant hwn ar hyn o bryd, gan nad yw'r Aelod wedi diffinio 'tafladwy'. Byddai angen ystyriaeth bellach o ddefnydd presennol y cynhyrchion hyn a'r math o gynhyrchion sy'n cael eu marchnata fel 'tafladwy'. Mae angen i ni fod yn glir ynglŷn â pha gynhyrchion yr ydym ni'n edrych arnyn nhw mewn gwirionedd. Felly, ni allaf gefnogi gwelliant 7, er, wrth gwrs, ni fydd absenoldeb cyfeiriad penodol at e-sigaréts yn adran 4 yn ein hatal rhag ystyried a ddylid gwahardd rhai mathau o e-sigaréts plastig untro, na chwaith rhag adrodd i'r Senedd ar yr ystyriaeth honno, fel y byddwn yn ei wneud gyda chynhyrchion eraill y byddwn yn ystyried gweithredu yn eu cylch yn y dyfodol. Byddaf yn sicr yn gofyn i fy swyddogion polisi weithio gyda'u cydweithwyr ym maes iechyd i ddechrau'r gwaith sydd ei angen, gan ein bod yn ystyried y mater hwn o safbwynt iechyd ac o safbwynt amgylcheddol. Diolch.