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English: Apologies. I move formally. Sorry.
Welsh: Ymddiheuriadau. Rwy'n cynnig yn ffurfiol. Mae'n ddrwg gennyf.
English: I was ready to go. I was too keen - my apologies.
Welsh: Roeddwn yn barod i fwrw iddi. Roeddwn yn rhy awyddus - rwy'n ymddiheuro.
English: Yes. It's to formally move it, so -
Welsh: Iawn. I'w gynnig yn ffurfiol, felly -
English: Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer. I want to focus my comments on the need to ensure equal access for children to early-years education. I will start by sharing a statistic with you: over half of children from disadvantaged areas in Wales will start school with deficient communication skills. Indeed, children from the poorest 20 per cent of the population, by the time they are three years old, will be almost a year and a half behind the better-off children in terms of language development. Think about that; when you're just three years old, you're already 18 months behind. This is important, because this is one of the most certain measures of the outlooks for individuals later in life. Weak skills, in terms of communication and vocabulary, have a huge impact on lifelong outcomes in terms of behaviour, mental health, preparedness for school and employment too. Bethan made reference earlier to the justice system and young people within the justice system. Sixty per cent of the young people on the youth justice estate have communication difficulties. Almost 90 per cent of young men who have been unemployed in the long term have communication and vocabulary problems. Without effective communication, a third of children will need treatment for mental health problems when they become adults. The evidence is clear that the provision of early-years education of a high quality, available to all, is the best way of bringing children out of poverty - and that's what Plaid Cymru wants to see.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Dirprwy Lywydd. Rydw i am ganolbwyntio fy sylwadau i ar yr angen i sicrhau mynediad cyfartal i blant i addysg blynyddoedd cynnar. Mi gychwynnaf i drwy rannu ystadegyn gyda chi: mi fydd dros hanner y plant o ardaloedd difreintiedig Cymru yn cychwyn ysgol efo sgiliau cyfathrebu diffygiol. Yn wir, mi fydd plant o'r 20 y cant mwyaf tlawd o'r boblogaeth, erbyn eu bod nhw'n dair oed, bron i flwyddyn a hanner y tu ôl i'r plant cyfoethocaf o ran datblygiad iaith. Nawr, meddyliwch am hynny; pan rydych chi ddim ond yn dair oed, rydych chi eisoes blwyddyn a hanner ar ei hôl hi. Mae hyn yn bwysig oherwydd dyma un o'r mesurau sicraf sydd yna o ragolygon rhywun nes ymlaen mewn bywyd. Mae sgiliau gwan plant o ran lleferydd, iaith a chyfathrebu yn cael effaith mawr ar ystod eang o ganlyniadau nes ymlaen mewn bywyd, yn cynnwys ymddygiad, iechyd meddwl, parodrwydd ysgol a chyflogadwyedd hefyd. Nawr, mi oedd Bethan yn cyfeirio yn gynharach at y system gyfiawnder a phobl ifanc o fewn y system gyfiawnder. Mae 60 y cant o'r bobl ifanc sydd yn yr ystâd gyfiawnder ieuenctid ag anawsterau cyfathrebu. Mae gan bron i 90 y cant o'r dynion ifanc sydd wedi bod yn ddiwaith am yr hirdymor anghenion lleferydd, iaith a chyfathrebu. Heb gymorth effeithiol, mi fydd treian o blant ag anawsterau cyfathrebu heddiw angen triniaeth ar gyfer problemau iechyd meddwl pan fyddan nhw'n oedolion. Mae'r dystiolaeth yn glir mai darpariaeth addysg blynyddoedd cynnar o ansawdd ar gael i bawb yw'r ffordd orau i godi plant allan o dlodi - a dyna beth mae Plaid Cymru eisiau ei weld.
English: Will you not accept that progress has been made with Flying Start in actually getting children from two to three? And what you said at the very beginning is something that I've written about and said for the last seven years: too many children are starting school and are a year or two years behind, and they've got to try and make it up in the next seven. But surely Flying Start must be seen as progress.
Welsh: Oni wnewch chi dderbyn bod cynnydd wedi'i wneud gyda Dechrau'n Deg i gael plant o ddwy i dair? Ac mae'r hyn a ddywedoch ar y dechrau yn rhywbeth rwyf wedi ysgrifennu amdano ac wedi ei ddweud dros y saith mlynedd diwethaf: mae gormod o blant yn dechrau yn yr ysgol flwyddyn neu ddwy flynedd ar ei hôl hi, ac mae'n rhaid iddynt geisio cau'r bwlch yn y saith mlynedd nesaf. Ond mae'n rhaid ystyried bod Dechrau'n Deg yn gynnydd.
English: Well, if you've written and spoken about it for seven years, you don't need to tell me; you should tell your own Government. I'll come on to Flying Start in a minute, because you do make a valid point, but I'll address that in a moment.
Welsh: Wel, os ydych wedi ysgrifennu ac wedi siarad amdano am saith mlynedd, nid oes angen ichi ddweud wrthyf fi; dylech ddweud wrth eich Llywodraeth eich hun. Fe ddof at Dechrau'n Deg mewn munud, oherwydd rydych yn gwneud pwynt dilys, ond fe ddof at hynny mewn munud.
English: Therefore, I've outlined why I believe it's important that we commit to provide free childcare for all children at three and four years old, as a means of tackling this inequality that I have referred to. This debate is timely because just this morning we started to scrutinise the childcare funding Bill that this Government has brought forward, and that policy, brought forward by Government, limits free childcare to working families. One could argue - and the Government does argue - that that brings benefits to them, although there are questions, in my mind and in other people's minds, as to the evidence to support that, but in my view it also increases the risk that those children from the most disadvantaged families, the unemployed families, will be left even further behind. Plaid Cymru wants to break that vicious circle of disadvantage and low attainment. The children's commissioner, Save the Children and others share Plaid Cymru's view that excluding children from non-working families from this childcare offer will expand the education gap rather than narrow it. Some of the evidence that we've heard is damning. The children's commissioner said, for example:
Welsh: Felly, rydw i wedi amlinellu pam rydw i'n meddwl ei bod hi'n bwysig ein bod ni'n ymrwymo i ddarparu gofal plant am ddim i bob plentyn tair i bedair oed yng Nghymru, fel ffordd i fynd i'r afael â'r anghyfartaledd yma rydw i wedi cyfeirio ato fe. Ac mae'r ddadl yma yn amserol, oherwydd dim ond y bore yma roeddem ni'n cychwyn ar graffu'r Bil cyllido gofal plant y mae'r Llywodraeth yma yn ei gyflwyno, ac mae'r polisi hwnnw, wrth gwrs, gan y Llywodraeth, yn cyfyngu'r gofal plant am ddim i deuluoedd sy'n gweithio. Nawr, fe fyddai rhywun yn dadlau - mae'r Llywodraeth yn dadlau - bod hynny'n dod â budd iddyn nhw, er bod yna gwestiynau, yn fy marn i ac eraill, ynglŷn â'r dystiolaeth i danlinellu hynny, ond mae e hefyd, yn fy marn i, yn cynyddu'r risg y bydd y plant yna o'r teuluoedd mwyaf difreintiedig, y teuluoedd di-waith, yn cael eu gadael hyd yn oed ymhellach ar ei hôl hi. Mae Plaid Cymru eisiau torri'r cylch dieflig yna o ddifreintedd a chyrhaeddiad isel. Mae'r comisiynydd plant, Achub y Plant ac eraill yn rhannu safbwynt Plaid Cymru fod allgau plant o gartrefi di-waith o'r cynnig gofal yma yn mynd i ehangu'r bwlch addysg yn lle ei gau. Ac mae'n rhaid imi ddweud, mae peth o'r dystiolaeth rŷm ni wedi ei chlywed yn ddamniol. Mi ddywedodd y comisiynydd plant, er enghraifft:
English: 'Not only is this Bill likely to disadvantage children of non-working household disproportionately, it is also unlikely to achieve its main aim.'
Welsh: Nid yn unig fod y Bil hwn yn debygol o roi plant o aelwydydd heb waith o dan anfantais anghymesur, mae hefyd yn annhebygol o gyflawni ei brif nod.
English: She also says:
Welsh: Mae hi hefyd yn dweud:
English: 'I am therefore unconvinced that this investment is evidence-based or well-targetedI do not believe that the policy behind this Bill shows that the scheme will be suitable for the long-term.' Now, those are the children's commissioner's views. Do you know, by the way, that couples who earn up to £199,000 a year will be eligible for the free childcare offer? Now, the Government tells us that those who are less well-off have access to Flying Start - and I'm now addressing the point you made, Mike. Most disadvantaged children, of course, don't live in Flying Start areas, and that's the problem: it's geographically limited. Half of our poorest, most disadvantaged, most fragile, most at risk of being left behind children will be shut out by this policy because they won't be able to access free childcare, whilst families earning potentially £199,000 a year are given free childcare by this Labour Government. Is it really what Labour now represents? Because if it is, you've clearly lost your way. Listen to the children's commissioner, listen to Save the Children and others, listen to Plaid Cymru: make the childcare offer universal so that everyone, including our poorest children, can equally have the best start in life.
Welsh: Felly, nid wyf wedi fy argyhoeddi bod y buddsoddiad hwn yn seiliedig ar dystiolaeth nac wedi'i dargedu'n dda Nid wyf yn credu bod y polisi sy'n sail i'r Bil hwn yn dangos y bydd y cynllun yn addas ar gyfer y tymor hir. Nawr, safbwynt y comisiynydd plant yw hwnnw. A wyddoch chi, gyda llaw, y bydd cyplau sy'n ennill hyd at £199,000 y flwyddyn yn gymwys ar gyfer y cynnig gofal plant am ddim? Nawr, mae'r Llywodraeth yn dweud wrthym fod gan y rheini sy'n llai cefnog fynediad at Dechrau'n Deg - ac rwy'n mynd i'r afael â'r pwynt a wnaethoch, Mike. Nid yw'r mwyafrif o blant dan anfantais, wrth gwrs, yn byw yn ardaloedd Dechrau'n Deg, a dyna'r broblem: mae'n gyfyngedig yn ddaearyddol. Bydd y polisi hwn yn cau'r drws ar hanner ein plant tlotaf, mwyaf difreintiedig, mwyaf bregus, sydd mewn perygl o gael eu gadael ar ôl am na fyddant yn gallu cael gofal plant am ddim, tra bo teuluoedd sy'n ennill £199,000 y flwyddyn o bosibl yn cael gofal plant am ddim gan y Llywodraeth Lafur hon. Ai dyna yw Llafur bellach? Oherwydd, os felly, rydych yn amlwg wedi colli eich ffordd. Gwrandewch ar y comisiynydd plant, gwrandewch ar Achub y Plant ac eraill, gwrandewch ar Blaid Cymru: sicrhewch fod y cynnig gofal plant ar gael i bawb, fel y gall pawb, gan gynnwys ein plant tlotaf, gael y dechrau gorau mewn bywyd hefyd.
English: I'm happy to intervene. You won't be surprised that I don't know how many times the word 'poverty' is used in that plan, but, actually, the child poverty strategy is still in place and we'll be reporting in 2019, as my predecessor in this role said. Also, the attack on poverty and the raise in prosperity is not only articulated within that plan, but also with the employment plan that we'll be bringing forward, and every strand of Government thinking. It is embedded across Government. So, I can't play the game of how many words are within a document, but I can say that tackling poverty goes right across this Government's thinking.
Welsh: Rwy'n hapus i ymyrryd. Ni fyddwch yn synnu nad wyf yn gwybod sawl gwaith y defnyddir y gair 'tlodi' yn y cynllun, ond mewn gwirionedd, mae'r strategaeth tlodi plant yn dal ar waith a byddwn yn cyflwyno adroddiad yn 2019, fel y dywedodd fy rhagflaenydd yn y swydd hon. Hefyd, nid yn unig ein bod yn diffinio'r ymosodiad ar dlodi a'r cynnydd mewn ffyniant yn y cynllun hwnnw, ond hefyd gyda'r cynllun cyflogaeth y byddwn yn ei gyflwyno, a phob elfen o feddwl y Llywodraeth. Mae wedi'i ymgorffori ar draws y Llywodraeth. Felly, ni allaf chwarae gêm faint o eiriau sydd mewn dogfen, ond gallaf ddweud bod mynd i'r afael â thlodi yn rhedeg drwy holl feddwl y Llywodraeth hon.
English: Well, I can help you. I can tell you that your economic action plan, which you rely upon heavily to reduce poverty, has a mention just once of 'poverty'. It's on page 24, and it's in a list. Now, it's the poverty of ambition from this Government that is leading to the poverty of our children. Just last week I called on the Minister to join Plaid Cymru in supporting the devolution of welfare administration, and what was this Labour Government's response to that? Pretty much that the Conservatives in Westminster are more able than yourselves to deliver benefits for those people. Now, let me just make a few facts clear regarding the devolution of welfare administration. It will be - [ Interruption.] Go on.
Welsh: Wel, gallaf eich helpu. Gallaf ddweud wrthych fod eich cynllun gweithredu economaidd, y byddwch yn dibynnu'n helaeth arno i leihau tlodi, yn sôn unwaith yn unig am 'dlodi'. Mae ar dudalen 24, ac mae'n ymddangos mewn rhestr. Nawr, tlodi uchelgais y Llywodraeth hon sy'n arwain at dlodi ein plant. Yr wythnos diwethaf gelwais ar y Gweinidog i ymuno â Phlaid Cymru i gefnogi datganoli'r gwaith o weinyddu lles, a beth oedd ymateb y Llywodraeth Lafur hon i hynny? Fwy neu lai fod y Ceidwadwyr yn San Steffan yn fwy abl na chi eich hunain i ddarparu budd-daliadau ar gyfer y bobl hynny. Nawr, gadewch imi wneud ychydig o ffeithiau'n glir ynglŷn â datganoli'r gwaith o weinyddu lles. Bydd yn - [ Torri ar draws.] Ewch ymlaen.
English: I didn't say that the UK Government was more able to administer welfare, I was saying the Welsh Government doesn't want to be administering the UK Government's Tory cuts.
Welsh: Ni ddywedais fod Llywodraeth y DU yn fwy abl i weinyddu lles, roeddwn yn dweud nad yw Llywodraeth Cymru eisiau gorfod gweinyddu toriadau Torïaidd Llywodraeth y DU.
English: You've refused to take responsibility and you are more than happy to keep blaming the Tories for something that you could have within your gift. Also, the devolution of benefits would be cost neutral because the block grant to the Scottish Government was adjusted upwards to reflect the transfer of responsibility for welfare. By making some changes, we could alleviate pressure on the NHS and other devolved services, actually leading to money being saved. The conclusion has to be a simple one: Labour is not a party of principle but of political expediency, shunning responsibility in favour of helpful political ambiguity. I want to finish my speech by calling for action from this Government. I call on you to stop abdicating responsibility. You are the Government. You are responsible. Take control of the administration of welfare and lift these children out of poverty.
Welsh: Rydych wedi gwrthod cymryd cyfrifoldeb ac rydych yn fwy na pharod i barhau i feio'r Torïaid am rywbeth a allai fod gennych chi i'w roi. Hefyd, byddai datganoli budd-daliadau'n niwtral o ran cost oherwydd fe addaswyd y grant bloc i Lywodraeth yr Alban ar i fyny er mwyn adlewyrchu trosglwyddo'r cyfrifoldeb dros les. Drwy wneud rhai newidiadau, gallem liniaru pwysau ar y GIG a gwasanaethau eraill sydd wedi'u datganoli, gan arwain at arbed arian mewn gwirionedd. Rhaid bod y casgliad yn un syml: nid plaid egwyddor yw Llafur ond yn hytrach, plaid hwylustod gwleidyddol, sy'n gwrthod cyfrifoldeb er mwyn sicrhau amwysedd gwleidyddol defnyddiol. Rwyf am orffen fy araith drwy alw am weithredu gan y Llywodraeth hon. Galwaf arnoch i roi'r gorau i esgeuluso eich cyfrifoldeb. Chi yw'r Llywodraeth. Chi sy'n gyfrifol. Cymerwch reolaeth ar weinyddu lles a chodwch y plant hyn allan o dlodi.
English: Thank you. Can I now call the Minister for Children, Older People and Social Care, Huw Irranca-Davies?
Welsh: Diolch. A gaf fi alw yn awr ar y Gweinidog Plant, Pobl Hŷn a Gofal Cymdeithasol, Huw Irranca-Davies?
English: I will take the intervention.
Welsh: Fe gymeraf yr ymyriad.
English: Will you agree that the End Child Poverty local authority data published in January, which broadened the definition of child poverty to take account of wider demographic factors, found that, in fact, Wales did have the highest child poverty in the UK? The reduction in child poverty I referred to came from Government statistics, from Government databases, and not from something I pulled out of the air or from some party briefing document.
Welsh: A wnewch chi gytuno bod data awdurdodau lleol Dileu Tlodi Plant a gyhoeddwyd ym mis Ionawr, a ehangai'r diffiniad o dlodi plant er mwyn ystyried ffactorau demograffig ehangach, wedi canfod mewn gwirionedd mai Cymru oedd â'r lefel uchaf o dlodi plant yn y DU? Daeth y lleihad mewn tlodi plant y cyfeiriais ato o ystadegau'r Llywodraeth, o gronfeydd data'r Llywodraeth, ac nid o rywbeth rwyf wedi'i dynnu o'r aer neu o ddogfen friffio un o'r pleidiau.
English: But what we also have, Siân, is a cross-Government programme of raising prosperity for all. You also raised the issue, by the way - . I'm not sure if I have time to -
Welsh: Ond yr hyn sydd gennym hefyd, Siân, yw rhaglen drawslywodraethol ar gyfer cynyddu ffyniant i bawb. Fe godoch chi'r mater hefyd, gyda llaw - . Nid wyf yn siŵr a oes gennyf amser i -
English: Are you willing to take an intervention?
Welsh: A ydych yn barod i dderbyn ymyriad?
English: I will in a moment. Siân, you also raised the issue of the school uniforms grant. Well, the Cabinet Secretary for Education has already made clear her intention to introduce an improved scheme from September 2018 - a scheme that will be more flexible, more relevant for the needs of disadvantaged learners. My officials have already been involved in discussions regarding the development of this new scheme with the Cabinet Secretary for Education, who will make an announcement during the coming weeks. And I'm happy to take the intervention.
Welsh: Gwnaf mewn munud. Siân, fe wnaethoch chi hefyd grybwyll mater y grant ar gyfer gwisg ysgol. Wel, mae Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros Addysg eisoes wedi egluro ei bwriad i gyflwyno cynllun gwell o fis Medi 2018 - cynllun a fydd yn fwy hyblyg, yn fwy perthnasol i anghenion dysgwyr dan anfantais. Mae fy swyddogion eisoes wedi cymryd rhan mewn trafodaethau ynglŷn â datblygu'r cynllun newydd hwn gydag Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros Addysg, a fydd yn gwneud cyhoeddiad yn ystod yr wythnosau sy'n dod. Ac rwy'n hapus i dderbyn yr ymyriad.
English: I am talking about a strategic plan across Government - an overview across Government with clear targets on tackling poverty. Now, I recognise that there's a child poverty strategy but, of course, children are part of families and we need a strategy to tackle poverty that is over and above that. There isn't one, and it's scandalous that there isn't one.
Welsh: Sôn ydw i am gynllun strategol ar draws Llywodraeth - trosolwg efo targedau clir ynglŷn a thaclo tlodi. Rwy'n cydnabod bod yna strategaeth taclo tlodi plant ond, wrth gwrs, mae plant yn rhan o deuluoedd ac mae'n rhaid cael strategaeth taclo tlodi sydd uwchben hynny. Ac nid oes yna un, ac mae'n sgandal o beth nad oes yna un.
English: You can have about 30 seconds to wind up.
Welsh: Gallwch gael tua 30 eiliad i ddirwyn i ben.
English: Okay. Well, let me turn to the aspect of devolution of welfare or administrative control. We do not support this for reasons of principle and hard-headed practicality. On principle, we believe that we should all be entitled to an equal claim from a welfare state to provide support when needed and to tackle poverty in Swansea and in Swindon, in Bangor but also in Bognor. In practical terms also, a broader based welfare support system provides resilience against localised economic shocks and cyclical downturns that a smaller system simply cannot, and we should, Dirprwy Lywydd, be extremely cautious of rushing to changes in the social security system before assessing the costs. The costs to Scotland are significant, including £66 million for administration and a one-off amount of £200 million for implementation of their newly devolved welfare powers. Should we be putting those into front-line services that tackle poverty? We can do more, Dirprwy Lywydd, without seeking further devolution. We can do more, and we intend to. Breaking the cycle of deprivation -
Welsh: Iawn. Wel, gadewch imi droi at ddatganoli lles neu reolaeth weinyddol. Nid ydym yn cefnogi hyn ar sail egwyddor ac ymarferoldeb clir. O ran yr egwyddor, credwn y dylem oll gael hawl i hawliad cyfartal gan wladwriaeth les sy'n darparu cymorth pan fo angen ac yn mynd i'r afael â thlodi yn Abertawe ac yn Swindon, ym Mangor, ond hefyd yn Bognor. Yn ymarferol hefyd, mae system cymorth lles ar sylfaen ehangach yn gallu gwrthsefyll ergydion economaidd a dirywiadau cylchol lleol na all system lai ei wneud, a dylem fod yn hynod o ofalus, Ddirprwy Lywydd, rhag rhuthro i newidiadau yn y system nawdd cymdeithasol cyn asesu'r costau. Mae'r costau i'r Alban yn sylweddol, gan gynnwys £66 miliwn ar gyfer gweinyddu a swm untro o £200 miliwn ar gyfer gweithredu eu pwerau lles datganoledig newydd. Oni ddylem roi hwnnw i wasanaethau rheng flaen sy'n trechu tlodi? Gallwn wneud mwy, Ddirprwy Lywydd, heb geisio datganoli pellach. Gallwn wneud mwy, ac rydym yn bwriadu gwneud mwy. Mae torri'r cylch amddifadedd -
English: You've had longer than 30 seconds.
Welsh: Rydych wedi cael mwy na 30 eiliad.
English: I'm closing, Dirprwy Lywydd. But breaking that cycle, Dirprwy Lywydd, of deprivation and poverty is a long-term commitment of this Welsh Government. It underpins our national strategy and our responsibility to make a difference to people's lives. It's a moral imperative too, but the UK Government must play its part.
Welsh: Rwy'n cloi, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Ond mae torri'r cylch o amddifadedd a thlodi, Ddirprwy Lywydd, yn ymrwymiad hirdymor i'r Llywodraeth hon. Mae'n ategu ein strategaeth genedlaethol a'n cyfrifoldeb i wneud gwahaniaeth i fywydau pobl. Mae'n rheidrwydd moesol hefyd, ond mae'n rhaid i Lywodraeth y DU chwarae ei rhan.
English: Diolch. Thank you to everybody who has contributed here today. I'd just like to start on the point that was made with regard to the devolution of administration of welfare and the points that were made in interventions by Rebecca Evans and Huw Irranca-Davies. I don't understand the rationale, because it seems to suggest - . We're in the situation where these welfare reform cuts will be going ahead anyway and, surely, if we recognise the fact that we don't have control over what happens in the rest of the UK, then we'd want to have control over the proportion of welfare that we could possibly have influence over. In fact, we recognise that on the equalities committee. We recognise the fact that, when we had evidence from those who came down from Scotland to give evidence, you could change the nature of the debate by having those powers within your grasp. Please read that evidence - we're all about telling each other to read specific documents in this Chamber - please read that evidence to show how we can do things differently, because, no, of course we don't want those welfare reforms to happen, but they are going to happen, and surely you would want to have those powers here in Wales as opposed to them being delivered upon us by those who are not in touch, who are not able to understand the lives of the people of Wales.
Welsh: Diolch. Diolch i bawb sydd wedi cyfrannu yma heddiw. Hoffwn ddechrau ar y pwynt a wnaed mewn perthynas â datganoli'r gwaith o weinyddu lles a'r pwyntiau a wnaed mewn ymyriadau gan Rebecca Evans a Huw Irranca-Davies. Nid wyf yn deall y rhesymeg, oherwydd mae i'w weld yn awgrymu - . Rydym mewn sefyllfa lle bydd y toriadau diwygio lles hyn yn digwydd beth bynnag ac yn sicr, os ydym yn cydnabod y ffaith nad oes gennym reolaeth dros yr hyn sy'n digwydd yng ngweddill y DU, yna byddem am gael rheolaeth dros y gyfran o les y gallai fod yn bosibl i ni gael dylanwad arni. Yn wir, rydym yn cydnabod hynny yn y pwyllgor cydraddoldebau. Pan gawsom dystiolaeth gan y rhai a ddaeth i lawr o'r Alban i roi tystiolaeth, rydym yn cydnabod y gallech newid natur y ddadl drwy gael y pwerau hynny yn eich gafael. Darllenwch y dystiolaeth honno os gwelwch yn dda - rydym yn dweud wrth ein gilydd am ddarllen dogfennau penodol yn y Siambr hon - darllenwch y dystiolaeth honno i ddangos sut y gallwn wneud pethau'n wahanol, oherwydd na, wrth gwrs nad ydym am i'r diwygiadau lles ddigwydd, ond maent yn mynd i digwydd, ac yn sicr byddech am gael y pwerau hynny yma yng Nghymru yn hytrach na'u bod yn cael eu darparu ar ein cyfer gan rai nad ydynt mewn cysylltiad, nad ydynt yn gallu deall bywydau pobl Cymru.