English: I am very confident that the costs are as accurate as possible. The estimated cost of this Bill is £7.5 million over five years. The regulatory impact assessment does note the best estimates of the cost impact of the options with the information available to us. There was a lack of information available on the number of people with autism. There was a lack of information about waiting times and there was a lack of information about services provided across Wales. Of course, this has been a cause of great concern to me during this process. But to help to shape the detailed costs, we performed our own research: we got in touch with local health boards directly for data regarding waiting times; we got in touch with Dr Dawn Wimpory for detailed discussions on how the system for gathering data can work and how much it would cost. We got in touch with a number of prominent academics involved with autism costs, and we got in touch with the Welsh Government for estimates of the administrative costs as well. In terms of the Welsh Government's costs in providing current services and changes within the Bill, the Welsh Government did say to us in an e-mail - and I am quoting here: 'Just to confirm our conversation that, following the recent exchange of letters between the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Services and Paul Davies AM, the Cabinet Secretary is not minded to provide any further information at this time. As I mentioned in my earlier email, costs associated with delivering similar actions may be found in Explanatory Memorandum laid alongside government Bills in the recent past'. So, it was disappointing to know that the Government has failed or has refused to give us any further information, so we have referred to the previous explanatory memoranda by the Welsh Government, and other information that can be found, in order to shape our estimates on the current situation and the costs of this Bill. We also got in touch with ASDinfoWales for information in relation to training resources and the training provided for professionals in education, health and social care, and our costs are based on their information too. There's a lack of information also about the number of children and adults who do have autism, and the services that are available and the outcomes of those services. That shows, I think, the need for this Bill, but it also leads to challenges in terms of costing the impact of the Bill, because of the lack of information that we have received. But I am very confident that we have had a lot of information and that these costs are realistic.
Welsh: Rwy'n hyderus iawn fod y costau mor gywir ag sydd yn bosib. Amcangyfrif cost y Bil hwn yw £7.5 miliwn dros bum mlynedd. Mae'r asesiad effaith rheoleiddiol yn nodi'r amcangyfrifon gorau o effaith cost yr opsiynau gyda'r wybodaeth sydd ar gael i ni. Nawr, roedd yna ddiffyg gwybodaeth ar gael ar y nifer o bobl ag awtistiaeth. Roedd yna ddiffyg gwybodaeth ynglŷn ag amserau aros ac roedd yna ddiffyg gwybodaeth ynglŷn â gwasanaethau a ddarperir ledled Cymru. Wrth gwrs, mae hyn wedi peri pryder mawr i mi yn ystod y broses yma. Ond, er mwyn helpu llywio costau manwl, fe wnaethom ni berfformio ein hymchwil ein hunain: fe gysylltom ni â byrddau iechyd lleol yn uniongyrchol ar gyfer data amseroedd aros; fe gysylltom ni â Dr Dawn Wimpory ar gyfer trafodaethau manwl ar sut y gall y system gasglu data weithio a beth y gallai hi gostio. Fe gysylltom ni â nifer o academyddion blaenllaw sy'n ymwneud â chostau awtistiaeth ac fe gysylltom ni â Llywodraeth Cymru am amcangyfrifon o'r costau gweinyddol hefyd. O ran costau Llywodraeth Cymru o ran darparu gwasanaethau cyfredol ac effaith newidiadau o fewn y Bil, dywedodd Llywodraeth Cymru wrthym ni mewn e-bost - ac rydw i'n dyfynnu yn y fan hyn: Dim ond i gadarnhau ein sgwrs yn dilyn y cyfnewid llythyrau diweddar rhwng Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol a Paul Davies nad yw Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet o blaid darparu unrhyw wybodaeth bellach ar hyn o bryd. Fel y soniais yn fy e-bost cynharach, gellir dod o hyd i'r costau sy'n gysylltiedig â chyflawni gweithredoedd tebyg yn y memorandwm esboniadol a osodwyd ochr yn ochr â Biliau'r Llywodraeth yn y gorffennol. Felly, roedd hi yn siomedig iawn fod y Llywodraeth wedi methu neu wedi gwrthod rhoi rhagor o wybodaeth i ni, felly rydym ni wedi cyfeirio at femoranda esboniadol blaenorol Llywodraeth Cymru, a gwybodaeth arall y gallem ei ganfod, er mwyn llywio ein hamcangyfrifon ar y sefyllfa bresennol a chostau'r Bil hwn. Cysyllton ni hefyd gyda ASDinfoWales am wybodaeth mewn perthynas ag adnoddau hyfforddi a hyfforddiant a ddarparwyd ar gyfer gweithwyr proffesiynol addysg, iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol, ac mae ein costau ni yn seiliedig ar eu data nhw hefyd. Mae'r diffyg gwybodaeth ynghylch nifer y plant ac oedolion sydd ag awtistiaeth, y gwasanaethau sydd ar gael, a chanlyniadau'r gwasanaethau hyn yn dangos, rydw i'n credu, angen am y Bil hwn, ond mae hefyd yn arwain at heriau o ran costio effaith y Bil, oherwydd y diffyg gwybodaeth rŷm ni wedi ei gael. Ond rydw i'n hyderus iawn ein bod ni wedi cael llawer o wybodaeth a bod y costau yma yn realistig.