English: Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer, and thank you to everyone who has taken part in this debate this afternoon, and thank you to the Deputy Minister for his response. Thanks in particular to James Evans, the Member for Brecon and Radnorshire, for putting forward the motion in such a cross-party manner. It's a very important debate, because not only does it introduce a simple solution of how to connect people between point A and point B, but it does so much more than that. Providing effective and smooth-running public transport in rural areas also helps us to get to grips with some of the other fundamental problems facing us with regard to economic growth, providing employment, physical and mental health, and education and so much more. We heard many presentations by a number of people. I won't be able to go through every contribution, of course, but James opened the debate by talking about his conversations with that body that represents women here in Wales, the WI, and how members of the WI are dependent on public transport, very often, and specifically the way that they have looked at loneliness and isolation in our communities amongst older people, and how a lack of public transport is impacting that cohort. Jane Dodds spoke about her proposal that was discussed previously and the fact that we need free public transport on buses for those under 25 years of age, and she put forward alternative solutions to this problem. Carolyn spoke very powerfully about her personal experiences on the cabinet in Flintshire. She spoke about how bus companies now only look to make a profit, but we need more in terms of services, and that the demand for bus services to connect communities and ensure that people have access to services is more important than profit - people over profit, that's what she said. We heard very powerful contributions from Jack Sargeant and Hefin David talking about the deregulation that took place during Margaret Thatcher's time in office, and how that was damaging. I, certainly, therefore, will be supporting the amendment. Sam Kurtz spoke about the fact that public transport is vital for people in rural areas in order to access employment, and he spoke about his personal experience. And then, thank you to the Deputy Minister for his response. He talked about the roads review, of course. I, too, in the context of Llanbedr, am very aware of that, and I'd like to take this opportunity to welcome the Deputy Minister to come to Llanbedr with me so that we can try to find an alternative solution to the problem in that place. But, that aside, if we are serious about getting to grips with the climate change crisis and ensure that Wales plays its part, then we have to decrease our over-reliance on private transport, as a number of people have mentioned today. As things stand, there's no choice for people in rural areas but to use their cars. Between 2010 and 2018, public expenditure on buses declined by £10 million. According to figures from the Campaign for Better Transport, there was a decline of almost 70 per cent in public funding given to buses over this period across Wales, with Monmouthshire seeing a decline of over 65 per cent of cuts, Flintshire seeing a decline of 51 per cent, and, indeed, in some counties and rural areas, we saw a cut of 100 per cent in public subsidy, for example in Wrexham and Neath Port Talbot. This, therefore, isn't sustainable, and it's the poorest and most vulnerable in our society who are suffering the most. One of the best services is to be had in London, of course, where, as we know, deregulation didn't take place under Thatcher, and that case has been made. Over the past summer in Dwyfor Meirionnydd, we saw hospitality businesses having to close during the tourism season. Why? Well, when our office spoke to them, they told us that people couldn't get to their workplaces. There were restaurants that were unable to open because people lived far away and they didn't have transport. I spoke to the job centre in Porthmadog and they said that the major challenge for their clients in looking for work was the ability to reach those workplaces and the lack of public services to enable them to do so. I've spoken several times about the excellent work that the Gisda charity does. A consultation was undertaken with young people looking at mental health, and the young people of Gwynedd said that the major challenge in terms of their mental health is the lack of access to the services that they need because they're so far removed from them and they can't get transport to them. The case has been made clear and a number of people have given a number of solutions today. I would ask the Deputy Minister, as he prepares the White Paper - and fair play to the Deputy Minister for talking about rural areas - to consider Peter Fox's proposal that specific consideration be given to developing a rural strategy in that White Paper. So, thank you very much to James Evans for bringing forward this debate this afternoon and to everyone for their contribution. I'm very grateful for that. I will be supporting the amendment, and I would encourage everyone else to support the amendment, and, therefore, the motion. I look forward to the vote. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Dirprwy Lywydd, a diolch yn fawr iawn i bawb sydd wedi cymryd rhan yn y drafodaeth yma heddiw ac i'r Dirprwy Weinidog am ei ymateb. Diolch yn arbennig, wrth gwrs, i James Evans, yr Aelod dros Frycheiniog a Maesyfed, am gyflwyno'r ddadl mewn modd trawsbleidiol fel hyn. Mae hi'n ddadl hynod o bwysig oherwydd nid yn unig ei bod hi'n cyflwyno datrysiad syml a pharod i'r broblem o sut mae cysylltu pobl rhwng pwynt A a phwynt B, ond mae'n gwneud cymaint yn fwy na hynny. Mae sicrhau trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus effeithiol a llyfn yn ein cymunedau gwledig hefyd yn ein helpu i fynd i'r afael â rhai o'r trafferthion sylfaenol eraill sydd yn ein hwynebu, megis twf economaidd, sicrhau gwaith, sicrhau iechyd corfforol a meddyliol, addysg a llawer iawn yn fwy. Ddaru ni glywed nifer fawr o gyfraniadau gan nifer o bobl. Fyddaf i ddim yn medru mynd drwy bob un ohonyn nhw, ond, wrth gwrs, ddaru James agor y drafodaeth wrth sôn am ei sgyrsiau efo'r corff arbennig yna sy'n cynrychioli menywod yma yng Nghymru, y WI, a sut mae aelodau o'r WI yn ddibynnol ar drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus yn aml iawn, ac, yn benodol, y ffordd maen nhw wedi edrych ar unigrwydd yn ein cymunedau ymhlith y bobl hŷn a sut mae diffyg trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus yn effeithio arnynt hwythau. Ddaru Jane Dodds sôn am ei chynnig hi ddaru gael ei drafod o'r blaen a'r ffaith bod angen trafnidiaeth am ddim ar fysus i bobl o dan 25 oed, a chynnig datrysiadau amgen i'r broblem yma. Ddaru Carolyn sôn yn rymus iawn am ei phrofiad personol hi ar y cabinet yn Fflint a sôn am sut mae cwmnïau bysus erbyn hyn ond yn edrych i wneud elw ond bod yna angen mwy gan wasanaethau bysus, a bod y galw am wasanaethau bysus er mwyn cysylltu cymunedau a sicrhau bod gan bobl fynediad i wasanaethau yn bwysicach nac elw - pobl dros elw oedd hi'n ei ddweud. Ac yna, dyma ni'n gweld cyfraniadau pwerus iawn gan Jack Sargeant a Hefin David yn sôn am y dadreoleiddio a fu yn ystod cyfnod Margaret Thatcher a sut roedd hwnna wedi bod yn niweidiol, ac mi fyddaf i yn sicr, felly, yn cefnogi'r gwelliant. Roedd Sam Kurtz yn sôn am y ffaith bod trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus yn gwbl angenrheidiol i bobl mewn cymunedau gwledig er mwyn cael swyddi, er enghraifft, a'i brofiad personol o. Ac yna, diolch i'r Dirprwy Weinidog am ei ymateb, ac yntau, wrth gwrs, yn sôn am yr adolygiad ffyrdd. Rwyf innau, yng nghyd-destun Llanbedr, yn boenus o ymwybodol o hynny, a hoffwn i gymryd y cyfle yma, felly, i wahodd y Dirprwy Weinidog i ddod i Lanbedr efo fi er mwyn ein bod ni'n medru ceisio canfod datrysiad amgen i'r broblem yno. Ond ta waeth am hynny, os ydyn ni o ddifrif, felly, am fynd i'r afael â'r argyfwng newid hinsawdd a sicrhau bod Cymru'n chwarae ei rhan, yna mae'n rhaid i ni leihau ein gorddibyniaeth ar drafnidiaeth breifat, fel mae nifer fawr yma wedi sôn heddiw. Fel y saif pethau, does yna ddim dewis gan bobl yn ein cymunedau gwledig ond defnyddio car. Rhwng 2010 a 2018, fe ddisgynnodd y gwariant cyhoeddus ar fysiau o £10 miliwn. Yn ôl ffigurau Campaign for Better Transport, gwelwyd cwymp o bron i 70 y cant yn y pres cyhoeddus a roddwyd i fysiau yn y cyfnod yma ar draws Cymru. Mae sir Fynwy yn gweld cwymp o dros 65 y cant o doriadau; sir y Fflint yn gweld cwymp o 51 y cant; ac, yn wir, mewn rhai siroedd efo ardaloedd gwledig, gwelwyd toriad o 100 y cant yn y sybsidi cyhoeddus, er enghraifft yn Wrecsam a Chastell Nedd Port Talbot. Dydy hyn, felly, ddim yn gynaliadwy, a'r bobl dlotach a mwyaf bregus sydd yn dioddef. Ceir un o'r gwasanaethau gorau, wrth gwrs, yn Llundain, lle, fel rydyn ni'n gwybod, ni welwyd y dadreoleiddio yno o dan Thatcher, ac mae'r achos yna wedi cael ei roi. Dros yr haf diwethaf yma yn Nwyfor Meirionnydd, gwelwyd busnesau lletygarwch yn gorfod cau yn ystod brig y tymor twristiaeth. Pam hynny? Oherwydd, wrth i ni yn ein swyddfa ffonio'r busnesau yna, yr hyn a ddywedon nhw oedd bod pobl yn methu â chyrraedd eu gweithle. Roedd yna fwytai yn methu agor oherwydd roedd pobl yn byw ymhell i ffwrdd heb drafnidiaeth. Ddaru fi fynd i siarad efo'r ganolfan waith ym Mhorthmadog, a hwythau'n sôn mai'r her fwyaf sydd yn wynebu eu cleientiaid nhw wrth chwilio am waith oedd y gallu i gyrraedd gwaith a'r diffyg gwasanaethau trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus i'w cymryd nhw yna. Rwyf innau wedi sôn erbyn hyn sawl gwaith am y gwaith rhagorol mae elusen Gisda wedi'i wneud. Mae elusen Gisda wedi cynnal ymgynghoriad efo pobl ifanc yn edrych ar iechyd meddwl, a phobl ifanc Gwynedd yn dweud mai'r her fwyaf i'w iechyd meddwl ydy'r diffyg i gael mynediad i'r gwasanaethau oherwydd eu bod nhw mor bell i ffwrdd a methu â chael trafnidiaeth. Mae'r achos wedi cael ei wneud yn glir, felly, ac mae nifer o bobl yma wedi rhoi nifer o atebion. Buaswn i'n gofyn i'r Dirprwy Weinidog, wrth ei fod o'n paratoi'r Papur Gwyn - a chwarae teg i'r Dirprwy Weinidog am sôn am ardaloedd gwledig - i ystyried cynnig Peter Fox fod yna ystyriaeth benodol yn cael ei rhoi i ddatblygu strategaeth wledig yn y Papur Gwyn yna. Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn unwaith eto i James Evans am ddod â'r ddadl yma gerbron ac i bawb am eu cyfraniad. Dwi'n ddiolchgar iawn am hynny. Mi fyddaf i'n cefnogi'r gwelliant ac yn annog pawb i gefnogi'r gwelliant, ac, felly, y cynnig. Mae'r achos wedi'i wneud a dwi'n edrych ymlaen i'r bleidlais. Diolch yn fawr iawn.