English: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. I move amendments 3 and 4 formally. May I congratulate the Independent Alliance for Reform group on securing this debate? May I also thank them for pushing it forward a week from last week, which gave me the opportunity to have my short debate on constitutional developments in Wales in prime time, for which I'm grateful? I'd also like to say that we're supportive of their motion. Others may find reasons not to support it, or vote against so they can vote for their own amendments, but, notwithstanding our later amendments, we support the motion, so we will be voting for it. I had thought that in our amendments we might add a favourable reference to motherhood and apple pie as point 5, because I think the motion, as is, is uncontroversial and I think we can all pretty much agree with its content. The introductory speech from David Rowlands, though - there were significant parts of that that I really didn't agree with. Firstly, I think the idea that it's not a real pandemic, I just don't - . I think that's wrong, and, if you look at the excess deaths for the past year, they're very significant - in the 100,000 region. And if you compare back to the past five years, as is normally done, they are really quite significant - perhaps a sixth or so higher than they usually would be. I don't know about other - . Coronavirus has clearly - . SARS had a high death rate and a higher one than this does and I accept that the death rate on this is not up to that level, but it's clearly a lot worse than the common cold, which is a coronavirus, and, in my view, at least, significantly worse than we usually see with flu. So, to that extent, I have supported restrictions where it's about flattening the curve, and I was against the failed suppression strategy, particularly when Welsh Government was keeping stuff locked down for longer, through into the summer. But, overall, I support the concept of flattening the curve to protect the NHS and keep to capacity and be able to deal with the situation. And yes, there are issues in terms of capacity and beds, but also it's very much staffing that I put the focus on, rather than the beds. Similarly, I think, the issue with the PCR test. I think, when rates were lower, yes, the false positives on PCR were perhaps an issue worthy of an investigation, but I think when prevalence is anywhere near as high as it now is - that becomes now a much smaller issue, when many, many more people are positive. So, I can see why we might have talked about that some months back, but I just don't see it as a material issue in assessing the overall problem now. Overall, I just think the problem with what Welsh Government has done and why we say we want a UK approach is firstly in terms of communication, because I think it's much clearer if people have a consistent approach, and I think compliance with restrictions would have been higher if that were the case. Secondly, I think there have been issues - I mentioned the failed suppression strategy through the summer, but, even more, I think, when we had the two-week firebreak in Wales and then that was lifted, with quite a lot of self-satisfaction, I think, from Welsh Government about how they'd done it so much better than in England. Yet then they lifted the internal travel restrictions and, at the time, I criticised them for having this border with England. Their key thing - enforce a border with England and everything will be okay - was actually allowing people from Merthyr in my constituency to travel to Monmouth, from high-infection to low-infection, yet blocking travel between Monmouth and Ross-on-Wye. It made no sense, and we then saw Wales have, I think, virtually the highest prevalence in the world coming out of that period. So, I think we'd have been much, much better with a UK-wide policy, a single national health service tackling COVID across the United Kingdom, with people coming together. Now we've got the vaccination on stream, there's not long to go. Get on with that vaccination in Wales. Let's lift these restrictions as soon as possible and look forward to the rest of our lives. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Rwy'n cynnig gwelliannau 3 a 4 yn ffurfiol. A gaf fi longyfarch grŵp y Gynghrair Annibynnol dros Ddiwygio ar sicrhau'r ddadl hon? Hoffwn ddiolch iddynt hefyd am ei ohirio am wythnos o'r wythnos diwethaf, a roddodd gyfle imi gael fy nadl fer ar ddatblygiadau cyfansoddiadol yng Nghymru ar amser brig, ac rwy'n ddiolchgar am hynny? Hoffwn ddweud hefyd ein bod yn cefnogi eu cynnig. Efallai y bydd eraill yn dod o hyd i resymau dros beidio â'i gefnogi, neu bleidleisio yn erbyn fel y gallant bleidleisio dros eu gwelliannau eu hunain, ond er ein gwelliannau diweddarach, rydym yn cefnogi'r cynnig, felly byddwn yn pleidleisio drosto. Roeddwn wedi meddwl y gallem ychwanegu cyfeiriad ffafriol yn ein gwelliannau at werthoedd traddodiadol fel pwynt 5, oherwydd nid wyf yn credu bod y cynnig fel y mae yn ddadleuol a chredaf y gallwn i gyd gytuno â'i gynnwys at ei gilydd. Ond yr araith ragarweiniol gan David Rowlands, serch hynny - roedd rhannau sylweddol ohoni nad oeddwn yn cytuno â hwy o gwbl. Yn gyntaf, nid wyf yn credu bod y syniad nad yw'n bandemig go iawn - . Credaf fod hynny'n anghywir, ac os edrychwch ar y marwolaethau ychwanegol dros y flwyddyn ddiwethaf, maent yn sylweddol iawn - oddeutu 100,000. Ac os cymharwch â'r pum mlynedd diwethaf, fel y gwneir fel arfer, maent yn eithaf arwyddocaol - tua un ran o chwech yn uwch nag y byddent fel arfer. Nid wyf yn gwybod am - . Mae'n amlwg fod y coronafeirws - . Roedd gan SARS gyfradd farwolaethau uchel ac uwch na'r haint hwn ac rwy'n derbyn nad yw'r gyfradd farwolaethau hon yn cyrraedd y lefel honno, ond mae'n amlwg yn llawer gwaeth nag annwyd cyffredin, sy'n goronafeirws, ac yn fy marn i o leiaf, mae'n llawer gwaeth nag a welwn fel arfer gyda'r ffliw. Felly, i'r graddau hynny, rwyf wedi cefnogi cyfyngiadau lle maent yn ymwneud â gwastadu'r gromlin, ac roeddwn yn erbyn y strategaeth atal aflwyddiannus, yn enwedig pan oedd Llywodraeth Cymru yn cadw pethau dan gyfyngiadau am fwy o amser, i mewn i'r haf. Ond yn gyffredinol, rwy'n cefnogi'r cysyniad o wastadu'r gromlin i ddiogelu'r GIG a chadw o fewn y capasiti a gallu ymdopi â'r sefyllfa. Ac oes, mae problemau gyda chapasiti a gwelyau, ond hefyd rwy'n rhoi ffocws ar staffio, yn hytrach na'r gwelyau. A'r un yw'r broblem gyda'r prawf PCR yn fy marn i. Pan oedd y cyfraddau'n is, efallai fod y canlyniadau positif ffug gyda'r PCR yn broblem a haeddai ei harchwilio, ond pan fo nifer yr achosion mor uchel â'r hyn ydyw ar hyn o bryd - mae hynny'n mynd yn broblem lawer llai nawr, pan fo llawer iawn mwy o bobl yn bositif. Felly, gallaf weld pam y gallem fod wedi siarad am hynny rai misoedd yn ôl, ond nid wyf yn ei weld fel mater perthnasol wrth asesu'r broblem gyffredinol nawr. At ei gilydd, rwy'n credu bod y broblem gyda'r hyn y mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi'i wneud a pham ein bod yn dweud ein bod am gael dull o weithredu ar draws y DU yn ymwneud yn gyntaf â chyfathrebu, oherwydd rwy'n credu ei bod yn llawer cliriach os oes gan bobl ddull cyson o weithredu, a chredaf y byddai lefelau cydymffurfiaeth â chyfyngiadau wedi bod yn uwch pe bai hynny'n wir. Yn ail, credaf fod problemau wedi bod - soniais am y strategaeth atal aflwyddiannus drwy'r haf, ond hyd yn oed yn fwy, rwy'n meddwl, pan gawsom y cyfnod atal byr o bythefnos yng Nghymru ac yna cafodd hwnnw ei godi, gyda chryn dipyn o hunanfoddhad ar ran Lywodraeth Cymru ynglŷn â sut roeddent wedi'i wneud gymaint yn well nag yn Lloegr. Ac eto, gwnaethant godi'r cyfyngiadau teithio mewnol ac ar y pryd, fe'u beirniadais am gael ffin â Lloegr. Eu prif beth - gorfodi ffin â Lloegr a bydd popeth yn iawn - oedd caniatáu i bobl o Ferthyr yn fy etholaeth deithio i Drefynwy, o ardal haint uchel i ardal haint isel, ond eu rhwystro rhag teithio rhwng Trefynwy a Rhosan-ar-Wy. Nid oedd yn gwneud unrhyw synnwyr, ac yna gwelsom fod gan Gymru, rwy'n credu, y gyfradd uchaf o achosion yn y byd i bob pwrpas wrth ddod allan o'r cyfnod hwnnw. Felly, rwy'n credu y byddem wedi bod yn llawer iawn gwell gyda pholisi ar gyfer y DU gyfan, un gwasanaeth iechyd gwladol i fynd i'r afael â COVID ar draws y Deyrnas Unedig, gyda phobl yn dod at ei gilydd. Gan fod y brechiad wedi dod erbyn hyn, nid oes llawer o amser i fynd. Bwriwch ati i roi'r brechiad yng Nghymru. Gadewch inni godi'r cyfyngiadau cyn gynted â phosibl ac edrych ymlaen at weddill ein bywydau. Diolch.