English: My friend is absolutely right. I think there has been acknowledgement here in the Chamber today of the good work that is going on, but it is not universal. That is the issue that the ministerial advisory group are looking at. This report is a welcome contribution to that. But it is true that we know, actually, what works, and we can see it working, and we funded much of that. We now need to see it rolled out much better, and I'll turn to some of the other issues. But, you're right, and I commend my friend Joyce on the commitment she's shown to this, pushing this agenda forward over several years. On the issue of the statutory duty, if I can turn to that, to provide debrief interviews to missing children equivalent to the existing provisions in England - by the way, the approach in England is very different. It's noticeably different. England don't have national procedures, as we do, and that necessitates they have to have individual protocols. There are no national procedures. We're actually ahead of the game here, and it is acknowledged. But on that issue, I remain concerned that this in and of itself as a focus may not improve safeguarding responses to individual children, and in fact, if I can draw Llyr's attention to a Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary report published just last year, it suggested that the implementation of the statutory duty in England is inconsistent, and that - and I'll quote briefly - 'while there are many examples of positive practice and initiatives through multi-agency working' - in England, this is, by the way - 'we have found no evidence that the police service and the other organisations with responsibilities for the welfare of children understand the outcomes this achieves for children, or use this understanding to inform their planning and operational practice'. We have to be an intelligent intervention and make it work for the outcomes, not simply tick the box, 'We've done it', debrief done, and so on. The criticism is there. Now, there is good evidence, by the way, that in some parts it is working. I think the report refers to Worcester and elsewhere. But there's also evidence it's very variable, and it's the ability there to say, 'We've done it. Good. Done'. I firmly believe that a multi-agency child-centred approach based on individual needs within the operation of the Social Services and Well-being (Wales) Act, supported here in this Assembly, offers a much more robust and child-centred safeguarding response. You will also be aware, and it's been mentioned in the Chamber today, of existing good practice in Wales, through services, as Dawn mentioned, such as the Gwent missing project, and, as David mentioned, the south Wales independent child advocacy missing service, which provide debrief services and ongoing support. We know there's good practice out there. It provides advocacy and they provide referral to ensure that those children at the greatest risk have strong safety plans in place. On the issue of looked-after children going missing from out-of-area placements, the ministerial advisory group on improving outcomes for children includes a work programme looking specifically at residential care, including out-of-area placement. This includes work on notifications, placement planning and placement choice. This work programme is well advanced, and resources have been made available from central Government for research and scoping work to inform a way forward, and we will ensure, by the way, that the Children's Society report is taken into account as that work is developed. I'm not sure if I responded to my friend when she was asking about the timetable, but, as I made clear in my earlier remarks, by 2018 we hope to have the outcomes for all of this work so we can then say, 'This is the way to proceed'. So, I would like to thank the Children's Society for their report and the contribution that it makes to informing the evidence that it provides as part of this strategic approach to improving the real outcomes of all children in Wales. I'm sure that Members will agree that the breadth of actions that we've heard from today that this Government, with partners on the ground, has put in place, will help both children but also the professionals who work tirelessly to support them to achieve their outcomes. I would like to thank once again all the Members - Llyr and all others who've contributed to this - and I think it's notable to see how many Members are here at the close of play today to hear this debate, how important this is, and how, actually, we can do things differently and better in Wales, and we need to drive this good practice right out across the land. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Welsh: Mae fy nghyfaill yn hollol gywir. Credaf y bu cydnabyddiaeth yma yn y Siambr heddiw o'r gwaith da sy'n mynd rhagddo, ond nid yw'n digwydd ym mhobman. Dyna'r mater y mae grŵp cynghori'r Gweinidog yn edrych arno. Mae'r adroddiad hwn yn gyfraniad at hynny sydd i'w groesawu. Ond mae'n wir ein bod yn gwybod beth sy'n gweithio, a gallwn ei weld yn gweithio, a ni sydd wedi ariannu llawer ohono. Bellach mae angen inni ei weld yn cael ei gyflwyno'n well o lawer, ac rwyf am droi at rai o'r materion eraill. Ond rydych yn llygad eich lle, ac rwy'n canmol fy nghyfaill, Joyce, ar yr ymrwymiad y mae wedi'i ddangos i hyn, gan wthio'r agenda hon ymlaen dros nifer o flynyddoedd. Ar fater y ddyletswydd statudol, os caf droi at hynny, a darparu cyfweliadau ôl-drafod i blant coll sy'n cyfateb i'r darpariaethau presennol yn Lloegr - gyda llaw, mae'r dull o weithredu yn Lloegr yn wahanol iawn. Mae'n amlwg wahanol. Nid oes gan Loegr weithdrefnau cenedlaethol fel sydd gennym ni, ac mae hynny'n golygu bod yn rhaid iddynt gael protocolau unigol. Nid oes unrhyw weithdrefnau cenedlaethol. Rydym ar y blaen yma mewn gwirionedd, a chaiff hynny ei gydnabod. Ond ar y mater hwnnw, rwy'n parhau'n bryderus nad yw hyn yn ffocws ohono'i hun ac efallai na fydd yn gwella ymatebion diogelu i blant unigol, ac yn wir, os caf dynnu sylw Llyr at adroddiad Arolygiaeth Cwnstabliaeth ei Mawrhydi a gyhoeddwyd y llynedd, roedd yn awgrymu bod gweithredu'r ddyletswydd statudol yn Lloegr yn anghyson, a hefyd - a dyfynnaf yn fyr - er bod llawer o enghreifftiau o ymarfer cadarnhaol a mentrau drwy weithio amlasiantaethol - yn Lloegr mae hyn gyda llaw - nid ydym wedi dod o hyd i unrhyw dystiolaeth fod gwasanaeth yr heddlu a sefydliadau eraill sydd â chyfrifoldebau am les plant yn deall y canlyniadau y mae hyn yn eu sicrhau i blant, neu'n defnyddio'r ddealltwriaeth hon i lywio eu harferion cynllunio a gweithredu. Rhaid inni fod yn ymyrraeth ddeallus a'i wneud i weithio er mwyn y canlyniadau, nid er mwyn rhoi tic yn y blwch yn unig, 'rydym wedi'i wneud', wedi ôl-drafod, ac yn y blaen. Mae'r feirniadaeth yno. Nawr, ceir tystiolaeth dda, gyda llaw, ei fod yn gweithio mewn rhai mannau. Rwy'n credu bod yr adroddiad yn cyfeirio at Gaerwrangon a mannau eraill. Ond ceir tystiolaeth hefyd ei fod yn amrywiol iawn, ac mae'n ymwneud â'r gallu yno i ddweud, 'Rydym wedi ei wneud. Da iawn. Wedi'i wneud'. Rwy'n credu'n gryf fod dull amlasiantaethol sy'n canolbwyntio ar y plentyn ac sy'n seiliedig ar anghenion unigolion o fewn gweithrediad Deddf Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol a Llesiant (Cymru), a gefnogir yma yn y Cynulliad hwn, yn cynnig ymateb diogelu llawer mwy cadarn sy'n canolbwyntio mwy ar y plentyn. Fe fyddwch yn gwybod hefyd, ac mae wedi'i grybwyll yn y Siambr heddiw, am arferion da sydd eisoes yn bodoli yng Nghymru, drwy wasanaethau, fel y soniodd Dawn, fel prosiect plant coll Gwent, ac fel y soniodd David, gwasanaeth eiriolaeth annibynnol de Cymru i blant coll, sy'n darparu gwasanaethau ôl-drafod a chymorth parhaus. Gwyddom fod arferion da i'w cael ar lawr gwlad. Mae'n darparu eiriolaeth ac maent yn atgyfeirio er mwyn sicrhau bod gan y plant sydd fwyaf mewn perygl gynlluniau diogelwch cadarn ar waith. Ar fater plant sy'n derbyn gofal sy'n mynd ar goll o leoliadau y tu allan i'r ardal, mae grŵp cynghori'r Gweinidog ar wella canlyniadau i blant yn cynnwys rhaglen waith sy'n edrych yn benodol ar ofal preswyl, gan gynnwys lleoli y tu allan i'r ardal. Mae hyn yn cynnwys gwaith ar hysbysu, cynllunio lleoliadau a dewis lleoliadau. Mae'r rhaglen waith hon yn datblygu'n dda, ac mae adnoddau ar gael gan y Llywodraeth ganolog ar gyfer gwaith ymchwil a chwmpasu gwaith i lywio'r ffordd ymlaen, a byddwn yn sicrhau, gyda llaw, bod adroddiad Cymdeithas y Plant yn cael ei ystyried wrth i'r gwaith hwnnw ddatblygu. Nid wyf yn siŵr a ymatebais i fy nghyfaill pan oedd hi'n gofyn am yr amserlen, ond fel yr eglurais yn fy sylwadau cynharach, erbyn 2018 rydym yn gobeithio cael y canlyniadau ar gyfer yr holl waith hwn fel y gallwn ddweud wedyn, 'Dyma'r ffordd ymlaen'. Felly, hoffwn ddiolch i Gymdeithas y Plant am eu hadroddiad a'r cyfraniad y mae'n ei wneud i lywio'r dystiolaeth y mae'n ei darparu fel rhan o'r dull gweithredu strategol hwn i wella canlyniadau real i holl blant Cymru. Rwy'n siŵr y bydd yr Aelodau'n cytuno bod ehangder y camau y clywsom amdanynt heddiw ac a roddwyd ar waith gan y Llywodraeth hon gyda phartneriaid ar lawr gwlad yn helpu plant ond hefyd y gweithwyr proffesiynol sy'n gweithio'n ddiflino i'w helpu i gyflawni eu canlyniadau. Hoffwn ddiolch i'r holl Aelodau unwaith eto - Llyr a phawb arall sydd wedi cyfrannu at hyn - a chredaf fod y nifer o'r Aelodau sydd yma ar ddiwedd y chwarae heddiw i glywed y ddadl hon yn dangos pa mor bwysig yw hyn, a sut y gallwn wneud pethau'n wahanol ac yn well yng Nghymru mewn gwirionedd, ac mae angen inni ledaenu'r arferion da hyn ledled y tir. Diolch yn fawr iawn.