English: Neil started with a walk through the streets of Cardiff, and I think that's a very evocative and appropriate way to start. I think the third sector are vital partners coming up with some good solutions. I don't have great sympathy with your remarks on that side of things, but I did think that tone of reminding us, really, of our own capital city was important. Leanne, I didn't mention uncooperativeness, which I should have, actually, in my speech. So, I think you did put your finger there on a real policy challenge and flaw in the current housing legislation, and all the groups tell us that. I do agree that it is the housing shortage, however that's come about, that has driven a lot of the challenges we face in terms of homelessness. You then made some very sharp comments about the benefits system; several other Members did, including the Minister, who specifically quoted the local housing allowance. Now, I think we would benefit from a whole debate on this and how it has affected this vital area we're responsible for - housing policy and homelessness. Obviously, we don't set benefits policy, but it clearly has to be assessed on how it has impacted on the most vulnerable, and I think we do need to have a real good examination of this, and I think some of the points that were made were perhaps not entirely based on accurate analysis at the moment. But we should be open to it; that is definitely the criteria to judge any reform. Suzy mentioned that any rights approach needed to focus on the enforceability of rights, and I thought that was an interesting point - I completely agree - and then talked about the need for post-legislative scrutiny of the 2014 Act, which would then bring into play things like uncooperativeness. So, I thought that was an important contribution. Mike, it's always a pleasure to listen to you in terms of housing and related issues because you have a wealth of experience, and a generosity of heart, if I may say so, in terms of welcoming ideas wherever you find them, and the whole range of homelessness - the different types of homelessness, from inappropriate to housing to sleeping on the streets, and the lack of affordable housing, which I know is a real passion that you have. That is really something we need to unite on and put right. Mark gave us a really historical analysis, including the approach in the early Assembly and his contributions, and talked about hidden homelessness in particular, which I thought was really key. This problem has been around a long time - we all own it I think is the honest answer. Caroline talked about the right to a roof over your head - that's the way I want to term it as well - and welcomed our action plan and the role a tsar might play. Mohammad then: we're the fifth richest group, and I think that is something always to bear in mind when many of our citizens don't have such a basic right as housing. You made the point - I don't think anyone else made this - that rough-sleepers often do not want to, for various reasons that I completely understand, access emergency hostels. John I thought made an excellent contribution as the Chair of the local government and housing committee, and was generous enough to balance his remarks with quite sharp criticism, but then also with where he thought that we were making a valuable contribution. He welcomed the human rights approach and then talked about things like assertive outreach, which we're not always comfortable about, but it is something that's raised with us and is important. Then Mandy I thought made the most powerful speech in many ways, because you were generous again in reflecting on your own experience as a 15-year-old, and goodness knows the thought of someone at 15 in that situation - inadequate housing, imposing yourself on friends or going back to a family situation that was truly wretched for you. I'm sure there are many people that would have heard that who have been in that situation, or even experiencing it now, and would get great support at least from knowing that someone in our Chamber has had such direct experience of this issue. The position of veterans I think is really key and, as I said, earlier this week I was looking at that in Pontypridd. And, again, you endorse the housing first approach. And I do welcome the Minister's response in saying that we should make this a shared agenda. We should cherish all good ideas and use them. And, again, you were kind enough to balance your remarks with those areas where you do feel that our side have more to answer for than perhaps you feel has been raised this afternoon. But I think the general constructiveness is a good foundation for us to ensure that we debate this subject often in all its intricacies. I thank you for you indulgence, Deputy Llywydd.
Welsh: Dechreuodd Neil gyda thaith ar hyd strydoedd Caerdydd, ac rwy'n meddwl bod honno'n ffordd deimladwy a phriodol iawn i ddechrau. Rwy'n credu bod y trydydd sector yn bartneriaid hanfodol sy'n cynnig atebion da. Nid oes gennyf gydymdeimlad mawr â'ch sylwadau ar yr ochr honno i bethau, ond roeddwn yn meddwl bod ein hatgoffa, mewn gwirionedd, am ein prifddinas ein hunain yn bwysig. Leanne, ni soniais am fod yn anghydweithredol yn fy araith, ac fe ddylwn fod wedi gwneud mewn gwirionedd. Felly, rwy'n meddwl eich bod wedi rhoi eich bys ar her polisi go iawn a gwendid yn y ddeddfwriaeth dai gyfredol, ac mae'r holl grwpiau'n dweud hynny wrthym. Rwy'n cytuno mai'r prinder tai, sut bynnag y mae hynny wedi digwydd, sydd wedi sbarduno llawer o'r heriau sy'n ein hwynebu o ran digartrefedd. Yna gwnaethoch sylwadau miniog iawn am y system fudd-daliadau; gwnaeth nifer o'r Aelodau eraill yr un fath, gan gynnwys y Gweinidog, a gyfeiriodd yn benodol at y lwfans tai lleol. Nawr, rwy'n credu y byddem yn elwa o ddadl gyfan ar hyn a sut y mae wedi effeithio ar y maes hanfodol rydym yn gyfrifol amdano - polisi tai a digartrefedd. Yn amlwg, nid ydym yn gosod polisi budd-daliadau, ond mae'n amlwg fod rhaid ei asesu o ran y modd y mae wedi effeithio ar y rhai mwyaf agored i niwed, a chredaf fod angen inni ei archwilio'n dda iawn, a chredaf efallai nad oedd rhai o'r pwyntiau a wnaethpwyd wedi'u seilio'n llwyr ar ddadansoddiad cywir ar hyn o bryd. Ond dylem fod yn agored iddo; dyna'n bendant yw'r meini prawf ar gyfer barnu unrhyw ddiwygio. Soniodd Suzy fod angen i unrhyw ddull yn seiliedig ar hawliau ganolbwyntio ar y gallu i orfodi hawliau, ac roeddwn o'r farn fod hwnnw'n bwynt diddorol - rwy'n cytuno'n llwyr - a soniodd wedyn am yr angen i graffu ar ôl deddfu ar Ddeddf 2014, a fyddai wedyn yn arwain at gynnwys pethau fel bod yn anghydweithredol. Felly, roeddwn yn meddwl bod hwnnw'n gyfraniad pwysig. Mike, mae bob amser yn bleser gwrando arnoch yn siarad am dai a materion cysylltiedig gan fod gennych gyfoeth o brofiad, a chalon garedig, os caf ddweud, o ran croesawu syniadau lle bynnag y dowch o hyd iddynt, a'r holl ystod o ddigartrefedd - y gwahanol fathau o ddigartrefedd, o dai anaddas i gysgu ar y strydoedd, a diffyg tai fforddiadwy, rhywbeth y mae gennych ddiddordeb angerddol ynddo. Mae hynny'n bendant yn rhywbeth y mae angen i ni ddod at ein gilydd yn ei gylch a'i ddatrys. Rhoddodd Mark ddadansoddiad hanesyddol iawn i ni, gan gynnwys y dull gweithredu yn y Cynulliad cynnar a'i gyfraniadau, a soniodd am ddigartrefedd cudd yn benodol, a chredwn fod hynny'n allweddol iawn. Mae'r broblem hon wedi bod gennym yn hir iawn - rwy'n credu mai'r ateb gonest yw ei bod hi'n broblem sy'n eiddo i bawb ohonom. Soniodd Caroline am yr hawl i gael to dros eich pen - dyna'r ffordd rwyf am ei roi hefyd - ac roedd yn croesawu ein cynllun gweithredu a'r rôl y gallai tsar ei chwarae. Mohammad wedyn: ni yw'r pumed grŵp cyfoethocaf, ac rwy'n credu bod hynny'n rhywbeth i'w gofio bob amser pan nad oes gan lawer o'n dinasyddion hawl mor sylfaenol â thai. Fe wnaethoch y pwynt - nid wyf yn credu bod neb arall wedi dweud hyn - nad yw'r rhai sy'n cysgu ar y stryd eisiau mynd i hostel argyfwng bob amser, a hynny am wahanol resymau rwy'n eu deall yn iawn. Roeddwn yn credu bod John wedi gwneud cyfraniad rhagorol fel Cadeirydd y pwyllgor llywodraeth leol a thai, ac roedd yn ddigon hael i gydbwyso ei sylwadau gyda beirniadaeth eithaf miniog, ond hefyd gyda lle credai ein bod yn gwneud cyfraniad gwerthfawr. Roedd yn croesawu'r elfen hawliau dynol ac yna siaradodd am bethau fel allgymorth grymusol, nad ydym bob amser yn gyfforddus yn ei gylch, ond mae'n rhywbeth sy'n cael ei godi gyda ni ac mae'n bwysig. Wedyn, roeddwn yn credu bod Mandy wedi rhoi araith bwerus iawn mewn sawl ffordd, oherwydd roeddech yn hael eto wrth fyfyrio ar eich profiad eich hun fel person 15 mlwydd oed, a phwy all wybod beth sydd ym meddwl rhywun 15 oed yn y sefyllfa honno - tai annigonol, rhoi eich hun ar drugaredd ffrindiau neu fynd yn ôl i sefyllfa deuluol a oedd yn wirioneddol enbyd i chi. Rwy'n siŵr bod llawer o bobl a fyddai wedi clywed hynny sydd wedi bod yn y sefyllfa honno, neu hyd yn oed yn mynd drwyddi yn awr, ac a fyddai'n cael cryn dipyn o gymorth o wybod o leiaf fod rhywun yn ein Siambr wedi cael profiad uniongyrchol o'r broblem hon. Credaf fod sefyllfa cyn-filwyr yn allweddol iawn ac fel y dywedais, yn gynharach yr wythnos hon roeddwn yn edrych ar hynny ym Mhontypridd. Ac unwaith eto, rydych yn cefnogi'r dull tai yn gyntaf. Ac rwy'n croesawu ymateb y Gweinidog pan ddywedodd y dylem wneud hon yn agenda ar y cyd. Dylem goleddu pob syniad da a'u defnyddio. Ac unwaith eto, roeddech yn ddigon caredig i gydbwyso'ch sylwadau â'r meysydd lle teimlwch fod gan ein hochr ni fwy i ateb drosto nag y teimlwch iddo gael ei godi y prynhawn yma efallai. Ond rwy'n credu bod y natur adeiladol yn gyffredinol yn sylfaen dda inni sicrhau ein bod yn trafod y pwnc yn aml yn ei holl gymhlethdodau. Diolch i chi am eich amynedd, Ddirprwy Lywydd.