English: Darren Millar, in his contribution, said that the Conservatives had argued a month ago that this would set a precedent, and that was the argument that they pursued. Actually, the argument that was pursued by Russell George a month ago was that the introduction of these COVID passes would be a 'disaster'. That was the word he used, and he based his analysis on the experience of Scotland. He argued that we couldn't cope with any of these additional passes. The experience has been entirely different, of course, and the experience of introduction of the COVID passes, as Rhun ap Iorwerth has explained in his contribution, has been relatively smooth, has been implemented relatively easily, as far as I can see, by the institutions and organisations who've been required to do so. Like Darren, I enjoyed the rugby on the weekend, and I showed my COVID pass on the way in and it caused no difficulty at all for me. I've also used my COVID pass, I regret to say, to watch Cardiff City - [ Laughter. ] - in recent weeks, and it's been far easier to get in than to stay in my seat and watch. I have to say that there haven't been the difficulties that were expressed in the debate we had a month ago, but it's right and proper that those potential problems are pointed out to Government, and Government should respond on how they're dealing with that. I feel far more confident now, having seen the COVID pass in action over the last month or so, to be able to vote very easily to extend its use, because we have the experience and the knowledge that we didn't have a month ago, and the experience and the knowledge have been positive and have demonstrated that organisations and businesses can implement these requirements with the minimum of difficulty. But the other argument that was pursued a month ago, of course, was that of civil liberty and personal freedom, and we argue these things, and to some extent Darren Millar has done so this afternoon, on the basis of my freedoms, of my rights, of my entitlements. Why don't we think of other people's rights? Why don't we think of other people's freedoms? Why don't we think of other people's entitlements? We're used to selfishness from the party opposite, but when we talk about the rights of Government and the rights of Government to impose restrictions upon us, Government must prove its case to do so, and I think the Government has proved its case. It proved it a month ago, and the experience we've had over the last month has actually demonstrated the power of that argument. I give way.
Welsh: Dywedodd Darren Millar, yn ei gyfraniad, fod y Ceidwadwyr wedi dadlau fis yn ôl y byddai hyn yn gosod cynsail, a dyna'r ddadl yr aethon nhw ar ei hôl. Mewn gwirionedd, y ddadl yr aeth Russell George ar ei hôl fis yn ôl oedd y byddai cyflwyno'r pasys COVID hyn yn 'drychineb'. Dyna'r gair a ddefnyddiodd, a seiliodd ei ddadansoddiad ar brofiad yr Alban. Dadleuodd na allem ni ymdopi ag unrhyw un o'r pasys ychwanegol hyn. Mae'r profiad wedi bod yn gwbl wahanol, wrth gwrs, ac mae'r profiad o gyflwyno'r pasys COVID, fel yr eglurodd Rhun ap Iorwerth yn ei gyfraniad, wedi bod yn gymharol esmwyth, wedi ei weithredu'n gymharol hawdd, hyd y gwelaf i, gan y sefydliadau a'r lleoliadau y bu'n ofynnol iddyn nhw wneud hynny. Fel Darren, fe wnes i fwynhau'r rygbi dros y penwythnos, a dangosais fy mhàs COVID ar y ffordd i mewn ac ni achosodd unrhyw anhawster o gwbl i mi. Rwyf i hefyd wedi defnyddio fy mhàs COVID, mae'n flin gen i ddweud, i wylio Dinas Caerdydd - [ Chwerthin. ] - yn ystod yr wythnosau diwethaf, ac mae wedi bod yn llawer haws mynd i mewn nag aros yn fy sedd a gwylio. Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud na fu'r anawsterau a fynegwyd yn y ddadl a gawsom ni fis yn ôl, ond mae'n iawn ac yn briodol bod y problemau posibl hynny yn cael eu dwyn i sylw'r Llywodraeth, a dylai'r Llywodraeth ymateb ynglŷn â sut y bydd yn ymdrin â hynny. Rwy'n teimlo'n llawer mwy hyderus nawr, ar ôl gweld y pàs COVID ar waith dros y mis diwethaf, i allu pleidleisio'n hawdd iawn i ymestyn ei ddefnydd, oherwydd bod gennym ni'r profiad a'r wybodaeth nad oedd gennym ni fis yn ôl, ac mae'r profiad a'r wybodaeth wedi bod yn gadarnhaol ac wedi dangos y gall sefydliadau a busnesau weithredu'r gofynion hyn gyda chyn lleied o anhawster â phosibl. Ond y ddadl arall a gafodd ei drafod fis yn ôl, wrth gwrs, oedd rhyddid sifil a rhyddid personol, ac rydym yn dadlau'r pethau hyn, ac i ryw raddau mae Darren Millar wedi gwneud hynny y prynhawn yma, ar sail fy rhyddid, fy hawliau, fy hawliadau. Pam nad ydym ni'n meddwl am hawliau pobl eraill? Pam nad ydym ni'n meddwl am ryddid pobl eraill? Pam nad ydym ni'n meddwl am hawliadau pobl eraill? Rydym ni wedi arfer â hunanoldeb gan y blaid gyferbyn, ond wrth sôn am hawliau'r Llywodraeth a hawliau'r Llywodraeth i osod cyfyngiadau arnom, mae'n rhaid i'r Llywodraeth brofi ei hachos i wneud hynny, ac rwyf i'n credu bod y Llywodraeth wedi profi ei hachos. Fe wnaeth ei brofi fis yn ôl, ac mae'r profiad yr ydym ni wedi ei gael dros y mis diwethaf wedi dangos grym y ddadl honno mewn gwirionedd. Fe wnaf ildio.