English: I think that's a really important point to make. It was part of the terms of reference for the expert group and review we had here in Wales, and it's really important not to undersell the importance of informed consent, because different people faced with the same information will make different choices about the risks they're prepared to take in treatment and, indeed, on the condition they currently have and the impact that that has upon their lives. It, of course, has been incredibly not just disappointing but really upsetting to hear people describe mesh procedures that have been undertaken and they say they have not consented to them, or they've consented but they do not believe it was informed consent. And all of that matters; we shouldn't try and brush that away. But the point about all forms of medical intervention is that it is about it being a genuine conversation and decision that the patient makes, as opposed to the clinician making it for them, and understanding, 'What matters to me as the person who is potentially undergoing that treatment.' When you look at the expert report that we have had undertaken in Wales, it is genuinely reflective on past practice, and part of their recommendations are about making sure there is genuine and informed consent for any procedures that take place, as well as making sure that in the pathway to a potential operation, all other treatment options are provided first so that it is a genuine last resort, if it is used at all. And, in fact, what should give people comfort about that is that in Wales, there's been a significant reduction in mesh procedures, as our clinical community have recognised some of the challenges that have existed. That will continue to be the case, as we work through with colleagues across the United Kingdom on what could and should happen in the future. It is, of course, possible still that the regulator will decide to take a different step and to withdraw this as a treatment option, but that is a matter for the regulator, not for an elected politician.
Welsh: Credaf fod hwnnw'n bwynt pwysig iawn i'w wneud. Roedd yn rhan o'r cylch gorchwyl ar gyfer y grŵp arbenigol a'r adolygiad a gawsom yma yng Nghymru, ac mae'n bwysig iawn nad ydym yn bychanu pwysigrwydd cydsyniad ar sail gwybodaeth, oherwydd bydd gwahanol bobl sy'n cael yr un wybodaeth yn gwneud penderfyniadau gwahanol am y risgiau y maent yn barod i'w cymryd mewn perthynas â thriniaeth ac yn wir, mewn perthynas â'r cyflwr sydd ganddynt ar hyn o bryd a'r effaith a gaiff ar eu bywydau. Wrth gwrs, mae wedi bod yn hynod o siomedig a diflas, mewn gwirionedd, i glywed pobl yn disgrifio'r llawdriniaethau rhwyll a gawsant, a'u bod heb gydsynio iddynt, neu eu bod wedi cydsynio iddynt ond nad ydynt yn credu ei fod yn gydsyniad ar sail gwybodaeth. Ac mae hynny i gyd yn bwysig; ni ddylem geisio diystyru hynny. Ond y pwynt yw, gyda phob math o ymyrraeth feddygol, mae'n ymwneud â chael sgwrs go iawn ac mae'n ymwneud â'r penderfyniad y mae'r claf yn ei wneud, yn hytrach na bod y clinigydd yn ei wneud drostynt, a deall, 'Beth sy'n bwysig i mi fel yr unigolyn a fydd, o bosibl, yn cael y driniaeth honno.' Pan edrychwch ar yr adroddiad arbenigol rydym wedi'i wneud yng Nghymru, mae'n ystyried arferion y gorffennol yn fanwl, ac mae rhan o'u hargymhellion yn ymwneud â sicrhau bod yna gydsyniad dilys ar sail gwybodaeth ar gyfer unrhyw lawdriniaethau sy'n digwydd, yn ogystal â sicrhau, ar y llwybr tuag at lawdriniaeth bosibl, fod yr holl opsiynau triniaeth eraill yn cael eu darparu yn gyntaf fel ei fod yn ddewis olaf go iawn, os caiff ei ddefnyddio o gwbl. Ac yn wir, dylai roi cysur i bobl fod gostyngiad sylweddol wedi bod yn nifer y llawdriniaethau rhwyll yng Nghymru, gan fod ein cymuned glinigol wedi cydnabod rhai o'r heriau sy'n bodoli. Bydd hynny'n parhau i fod yn wir, wrth i ni weithio gyda chydweithwyr ledled y Deyrnas Unedig ar yr hyn a allai ac a ddylai ddigwydd yn y dyfodol. Wrth gwrs, mae'n bosibl o hyd y bydd y rheoleiddiwr yn penderfynu gweithredu mewn modd gwahanol a diddymu hwn fel dewis ar gyfer triniaeth, ond mae hwnnw'n fater ar gyfer y rheoleiddiwr, nid gwleidydd etholedig.