English: Now, there was a series of points made that I will try to address in turn. I was struck by Joel James's argument. He said he's in favour of a clean air Act but he's against disincentives, and his account of what cycling was like left me quite puzzled. We heard about people ending up in verges surrounded by dead animals and litter, which, I must say, has not been my experience of riding a bike, and that's fairly untypical, I would suggest. I did see that he was out with Sustrans over the summer, which I was encouraged to see, but I'm not sure if he actually got on the bike. But I would say in all seriousness, adult cycle training is a really important part of what we have to do, because lots of people have got perceptions of what it's like to ride short journeys that are not grounded in reality, and those false perceptions are real barriers to people taking up behaviour change. So, one of the things we are looking at through our record investment in active travel, the most per head in any part of the UK, is how we can enable adults to retrain, to ride a bike safely and comfortably, so that the myths that Joel James has been spouting can be put to bed. It also became clear from Gareth Davies's remarkable contribution that his conception of a clean air Act, which they keep telling us they want to introduce, is that we should build more roads as a result. So, that is a very interesting set of proposals, because more roads produce more carbon and produce more nitrogen dioxide from the induced traffic they unleash. I'd be delighted to hear more.
Welsh: Nawr, gwnaed cyfres o bwyntiau y ceisiaf fynd i'r afael â hwy yn eu tro. Fe'm trawyd gan ddadl Joel James. Dywedodd ei fod o blaid Deddf aer glân ond ei fod yn erbyn datgymhellion, ac roedd ei ddisgrifiad o sut brofiad oedd beicio yn destun penbleth i mi. Clywsom am bobl yn glanio ar ymylon ffyrdd wedi'u hamgylchynu gan anifeiliaid marw a sbwriel, a rhaid imi ddweud, nid dyna fy mhrofiad i o feicio, a byddwn yn awgrymu bod hynny'n eithaf anghyffredin. Gwelais ei fod allan gyda Sustrans dros yr haf, ac fe'm calonogwyd yn fawr gan hynny, ond nid wyf yn siŵr a aeth ar gefn y beic mewn gwirionedd. Ond o ddifrif, hoffwn ddweud bod hyfforddiant beicio i oedolion yn rhan bwysig iawn o'r hyn y mae'n rhaid inni ei wneud, oherwydd mae gan lawer o bobl ganfyddiadau ynglŷn â sut brofiad yw beicio ar deithiau byr nad ydynt wedi'u gwreiddio mewn realiti, ac mae'r canfyddiadau ffug hynny'n rhwystrau gwirioneddol i newid ymddygiad pobl. Felly, un o'r pethau yr ydym yn edrych arno drwy ein buddsoddiad mwy nag erioed mewn teithio llesol, y mwyaf y pen mewn unrhyw ran o'r DU, yw sut y gallwn alluogi oedolion i ailhyfforddi, i feicio'n ddiogel ac yn gyfforddus, fel y gellir chwalu'r mythau y mae Joel James wedi bod yn eu lledaenu. Daeth yn amlwg hefyd o gyfraniad rhyfeddol Gareth Davies mai ei gysyniad o Ddeddf aer glân, y maent yn dal i ddweud wrthym eu bod am ei chyflwyno, yw y dylem adeiladu mwy o ffyrdd o ganlyniad. Felly, mae honno'n gyfres ddiddorol iawn o gynigion, oherwydd mae mwy o ffyrdd yn cynhyrchu mwy o garbon ac yn cynhyrchu mwy o nitrogen deuocsid o'r traffig y maent yn ei ysgogi. Byddwn wrth fy modd yn clywed mwy.