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English: I now call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Huw Irranca-Davies. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 40, no abstentions, 14 against. Therefore, the motion is agreed.
Welsh: Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar y cynnig, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Huw Irranca-Davies. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid 40, dim yn ymatal, 14 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig wedi'i dderbyn.
English: We'll now move to the vote on the Welsh Conservatives' debate. I call for a vote on the motion, tabled in the name of Darren Millar. If the motion is not agreed, we will then vote on the amendment tabled to the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 14, 13 abstentions, and 27 against. Therefore, the motion is not agreed.
Welsh: Nesaf, pleidleisiwn ar ddadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig. Galwaf am bleidlais ar y cynnig, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Darren Millar. Os caiff y cynnig ei wrthod, byddwn yn pleidleisio ar y gwelliant a gyflwynwyd i'r cynnig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid 14, roedd 13 yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig wedi'i wrthod.
English: I now call for a vote on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Siân Gwenllian. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 27, no abstentions, and 27 against. As is required under Standing Order 6.20, I exercise my casting vote against the amendment. Therefore, in favour 27, no abstentions, and 28 against. Therefore, the amendment is not agreed.
Welsh: Galwaf nawr am bleidlais ar welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Siân Gwenllian. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid 27, dim yn ymatal, yn erbyn 27. Fel sy'n ofynnol o dan Reol Sefydlog 6.20, defnyddiaf fy mhleidlais fwrw i bleidleisio yn erbyn y cynnig. Felly, o blaid 27, dim yn ymatal, a 28 yn erbyn, ac mae'r gwelliant wedi'i wrthod.
English: As the Senedd has not agreed the unamended motion or the amendment proposed to the motion, the motion is therefore not agreed. And that brings voting time to a close for today.
Welsh: Gan nad yw'r Senedd wedi derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio, nac wedi derbyn y gwelliant ar gyfer y cynnig, caiff y cynnig, felly, ei wrthod. A daw hynny â'r pleidleisio i ben am heddiw.
English: We'll move now to the shorts debates, and I call on Joel James to speak to the topic he has chosen.
Welsh: Symudaf yn awr i'r ddadl fer, a galwaf ar Joel James i siarad am y pwnc a ddewiswyd ganddo.
English: And if Members are leaving, please do so quietly. Joel.
Welsh: Ac os oes Aelodau'n gadael, gwnewch hynny'n dawel. Joel.
English: Thank you, Dirprwy Llywydd, and I'd like to confirm that I've agreed to give my colleagues Altaf Hussain and Russell George a minute each. As many here will know, the subject of deafness and the issues facing the deaf community are very close to my heart, and I wanted to take the opportunity of -
Welsh: Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd, a hoffwn gadarnhau fy mod wedi cytuno i roi munud yr un i fy nghyd-Aelodau, Altaf Hussain a Russell George. Fel y gŵyr llawer yma, mae byddardod a'r problemau sy'n wynebu'r gymuned fyddar yn agos iawn at fy nghalon, ac roeddwn am fanteisio ar y cyfle -
English: Yes, a minute each.
Welsh: Ie, munud yr un.
English: Thank you, Joel, for this debate and for giving me a minute - I may take more. In many cases, people with hearing loss are forced to wait significantly longer for an appointment with their GP. Many GP surgeries can't offer same-day appointments because they lack staff who are trained interpreters or can use sign language. Patients could wait two weeks or more as they wait for an interpreter to be arranged. This is a significant time for a vulnerable person who needs to see their doctor. At a cross-party group, a person with hearing loss described how they were cut off during a 111 call, as it took so long to find someone who could communicate with them over the phone. If this was a 999 call, this could have been catastrophic. Regulations need to be tightened by the Welsh Government for over-the-counter hearing aids, as users could experience further isolation and hearing loss due to overamplification. The Welsh Government needs to invest in hearing loss services so that all people receive equal treatment. Ultimately, this could save lives. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch am y ddadl hon, Joel, ac am roi munud i mi - efallai y cymeraf fwy. Mewn llawer o achosion, mae pobl sydd â cholled clyw yn gorfod aros llawer mwy am apwyntiad gyda'u meddyg teulu. Mae llawer o feddygfeydd meddygon teulu yn methu cynnig apwyntiadau ar yr un diwrnod am nad oes ganddynt staff sy'n ddehonglwyr hyfforddedig neu sy'n gallu defnyddio iaith arwyddion. Gallai cleifion aros pythefnos neu fwy wrth iddynt aros i ddehonglwr gael ei drefnu. Mae hwn yn gyfnod hir i rywun agored i niwed sydd angen gweld ei feddyg. Mewn grŵp trawsbleidiol, disgrifiodd unigolyn â cholled clyw sut y cawsant eu torri i ffwrdd yn ystod galwad 111, am ei bod wedi cymryd cymaint o amser i ddod o hyd i rywun a allai gyfathrebu â hwy dros y ffôn. Pe bai hon yn alwad 999, gallai hynny fod wedi bod yn drychinebus. Mae angen i Lywodraeth Cymru dynhau rheoliadau ar gyfer cymhorthion clyw dros y cownter, gan y gallai defnyddwyr gael eu hynysu ymhellach a cholli mwy o'u clyw o ganlyniad i chwyddo'r sain yn ormodol. Mae angen i Lywodraeth Cymru fuddsoddi mewn gwasanaethau colled clyw fel bod pawb yn cael triniaeth gyfartal. Yn y pen draw, gallai hyn achub bywydau. Diolch.
English: Can I thank my colleague Joel James for his contribution and for giving me a moment of his time as well? In Wales, hearing loss services are exclusively provided by NHS hospital-based services. We also know that there is a huge unacceptable level of waiting times for some patients, forcing patients to either go private, or if they can't afford it, to suffer or not know where to turn to. When I go for my appointment for an eyesight test, I also get offered a hearing test, as well, at Specsavers in Newtown. They offer a hearing test and also - [ Interruption.] A two-for-one - absolutely. But my colleague Joel James has pointed this out and I would put to you, Minister, that there's an opportunity here to save the NHS money, to improve access to services and also to take the pressure off the NHS, and that is by commissioning existing providers of community services in Wales to provide NHS services using a model based on existing primary care optometry in Wales. Optometrists play a huge role, of course, in reducing the burden upon GP primary care services and the NHS as a whole in Wales, so I would ask the Minister to consider this as a similar model for NHS hearing loss services in Wales.
Welsh: A gaf fi ddiolch i fy nghyd-Aelod, Joel James, am ei gyfraniad ac am roi eiliad o'i amser i minnau hefyd? Yng Nghymru, gwasanaethau'r GIG mewn ysbytai yn unig sy'n darparu gwasanaethau colled clyw. Gwyddom hefyd fod lefel amseroedd aros i rai cleifion yn annerbyniol o faith, gan orfodi cleifion naill ai i fynd yn breifat, neu os na allant ei fforddio, i ddioddef neu fethu gwybod lle i droi. Pan fyddaf yn mynd am fy apwyntiad i gael prawf golwg, rwyf hefyd yn cael cynnig prawf clyw, yn Specsavers yn y Drenewydd. Maent yn cynnig prawf clyw a hefyd - [ Torri ar draws.] Dau am bris un - yn hollol. Ond mae fy nghyd-Aelod, Joel James, wedi tynnu sylw at hyn a hoffwn ddweud wrthych, Weinidog, fod cyfle yma i arbed arian i'r GIG, i wella mynediad at wasanaethau a hefyd i dynnu'r pwysau oddi ar y GIG, a hynny drwy gomisiynu darparwyr gwasanaethau cymunedol presennol yng Nghymru i ddarparu gwasanaethau'r GIG gan ddefnyddio model sy'n seiliedig ar optometreg gofal sylfaenol presennol yng Nghymru. Mae optometryddion yn chwarae rhan enfawr wrth gwrs, yn lleihau'r baich ar wasanaethau gofal sylfaenol meddygon teulu a'r GIG yn ei gyfanrwydd yng Nghymru, felly gofynnaf i'r Gweinidog ystyried hyn fel model tebyg ar gyfer gwasanaethau colled clyw y GIG yng Nghymru.
English: I call on the Minister for Health and Social Services to reply to the debate - Eluned Morgan.
Welsh: Galwaf yn awr ar y Gweinidog Iechyd a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol i ymateb i'r ddadl - Eluned Morgan.
English: All-Wales standards give guidance to health service staff on how to ensure that patients' needs for support and communications are met, and that includes BSL. Every health board and every trust is expected to put arrangements in place to deliver the standards in order to ensure that all services are available and are accessible, including for those experiencing hearing loss. If you remember in December of last year, when we marked International Day of Persons with Disabilities, Jane Hutt, the Minister for Social Justice, had made a statement in the Senedd, highlighting the way the COVID pandemic has had a very negative impact on disabled people. The lack of equality, which already existed, had contributed to that, and that lack of equality was intensified during the pandemic. The 'Locked Out' report focused on the clear unfairness faced by disabled people and highlighted the barriers for those experiencing hearing loss, and this has encouraged the Welsh Government to establish a disability rights task force. To conclude, I think we can be agreed that a broad range of activities are in place in order to tackle the hidden issues impacting those experiencing hearing loss. However, there is more to come, and I will continue to welcome innovative solutions to support these citizens in Wales. Thank you.
Welsh: Mae safonau Cymru gyfan yn rhoi arweiniad i staff y gwasanaeth iechyd ar sut i sicrhau bod anghenion cleifion am gymorth o ran gwybodaeth a chyfathrebu yn cael eu diwallu, ac mae hynny'n cynnwys BSL. Mae disgwyl i bob bwrdd iechyd ac ymddiriedolaeth roi trefniadau ar waith i gyflawni'r safonau er mwyn sicrhau bod yr holl wasanaethau ar gael yn hygyrch, gan gynnwys ar gyfer y gymuned fyddar. Byddwch yn cofio fis Rhagfyr diwethaf, yn ystod yr wythnos pan oedden ni yn nodi Diwrnod Rhyngwladol Pobl ag Anableddau, fod Jane Hutt, y Gweinidog Cyfiawnder Cymdeithasol, wedi gwneud datganiad yn y Senedd, yn tynnu sylw at y ffordd mae'r pandemig COVID wedi cael effaith wael iawn ar bobl anabl. Roedd y diffyg cydraddoldeb sy'n bodoli'n barod wedi cyfrannu at hynny, a chafodd y diffyg cydraddoldeb hwnnw ei ddwysáu yn ystod y pandemig. Roedd yr adroddiad 'Drws ar Glo' yn canolbwyntio ar yr annhegwch amlwg mae pobl anabl yn ei wynebu, ac yn tynnu sylw at y rhwystrau i bobl fyddar, sydd wedi ysgogi Llywodraeth Cymru i sefydlu tasglu hawliau anabledd. I gloi, dwi'n credu y gallwn fod yn gytûn bod ystod eang o weithgaredd ar y gweill i fynd i'r afael â'r materion cudd sy'n effeithio ar bobl fyddar, a'r rhai sy'n byw gyda cholli clyw. Er hynny, mae mwy i ddod, a byddaf yn parhau i groesawu atebion arloesol pellach i gefnogi'r dinasyddion hyn yng Nghymru. Diolch yn fawr.
English: A very warm welcome to you all this morning. It's great to see you. We are here for a meeting of the Finance Committee. We will be considering Stage 2 of the Bill. A very warm welcome to the Minister, and I welcome Llyr Gruffydd also, who has come here to speak on the Bill. We're just checking that the headphones are working in terms of the interpretation - that's fine. If you could turn any sound equipment off so that we have silence. I just need to ask if there are any declarations of interest. No. Great. We haven't received any apologies, everybody's here and it's great to see everybody at the meeting.
Welsh: Croeso cynnes iawn i chi gyd y bore yma. Mae'n dda eich gweld chi. Rydyn ni yma ar gyfer cyfarfod o'r Pwyllgor Cyllid. Rydyn ni'n mynd i mewn i Gyfnod 2 y Bil. Croeso cynnes i'r Gweinidog a chroeso i Llyr Gruffydd sydd yma i siarad ynglŷn â'r Bil. Rydyn ni jest yn tsiecio bod y clustffonau yn gweithio o ran cyfieithu - mae hynny'n iawn. Os buasech chi'n troi unrhyw offer sain i ffwrdd fel ein bod ni'n cael distawrwydd. Dwi jest angen gofyn oes yna unrhyw un angen datgan unrhyw fuddiannau. Na. Grêt. Dydyn ni ddim wedi cael unrhyw ymddiheuriadau, mae pawb yma ac mae'n dda gweld pawb yma.
English: Before moving on, Chair, given that my amendment, amendment 7, has fallen, I'll ask you not to move amendment 20, because it's a consequential amendment to amendment 7, and the same, given that amendment 9 has fallen, to not move amendment 21, for the same reason.
Welsh: Cyn symud ymlaen, Gadeirydd, gan fod fy ngwelliant i, rhif 7, wedi disgyn, fe wnaf i ofyn ichi beidio â symud gwelliant 20, gan ei fod e'n ganlyniadol i welliant 7, a'r un fath hefyd, gan fod gwelliant 9 wedi disgyn, i beidio â symud gwelliant 21, am yr un rheswm.
English: Just to say that I feel that the Government's amendments respond well to the recommendations that emanated from the committee's work, and I'll be happy to support both amendments.
Welsh: Dim ond i ddweud fy mod i'n teimlo bod gwelliannau'r Llywodraeth yn ymateb yn foddhaol i'r argymhellion sydd wedi codi o waith y pwyllgorau, ac felly fe fyddaf i'n hapus i gefnogi'r ddau welliant.
English: Both amendments. Anyone else want to speak? No. So, I'll call on the Minister to respond.
Welsh: Y ddau welliant. Ocê. Unrhyw un arall eisiau siarad? Na. Felly, fe wnaf i alw ar y Gweinidog os ydy hi eisiau ymateb.
English: Yes, thank you, Chair. That is, I don't have any opposition, obviously, to what's being proposed; I would be happy to support the amendment as it is, but, in the light of the Minister's offer to look at the length of the extension beyond five years, maybe we would need to reflect a little on whether those four years are still appropriate in that context. I don't know whether that is something that the Minister would be willing to consider. I'm not asking her to make a commitment, but perhaps, in light of any changes to the previous timetable that we discussed in terms of the extension and the sunset clause, maybe we would need to reflect on the four years to ensure that that is appropriate as well. But, as I said, I'm going to support the amendment as it is, because I do recognise that it's a very positive step.
Welsh: Ie, diolch, Gadeirydd. Hynny yw, does gen i ddim gwrthwynebiad, yn amlwg, i'r hyn sy'n cael ei gynnig; byddaf i'n hapus i gefnogi'r cynnig fel y mae e, ond, yng ngoleuni cynnig y Gweinidog yn gynharach i edrych ar hyd yr estyniad y tu hwnt i bum mlynedd, efallai fyddai angen jest adlewyrchu ychydig ar a ydy'r pedair blynedd yna yn dal i fod yn addas yn y cyd-destun hwnnw. Dwi ddim yn gwybod a ydy hynny'n rhywbeth y byddai'r Gweinidog yn barod i'w ystyried. Dwi ddim yn gofyn iddi wneud ymrwymiad, ond jest amlygu, efallai, yng ngoleuni unrhyw newid i'r amserlen flaenorol y trafodom ni ynglŷn â'r cymal machlud a'r estyniad, o bosib byddai angen ystyried adlewyrchu ar y pedair blynedd i wneud yn siŵr bod hynny'n addas hefyd. Ond, fel dwi'n ei ddweud, dwi'n mynd i gefnogi'r gwelliant fel y mae e, achos dwi'n cydnabod ei fod yn gam positif iawn.
English: Thank you very much. Does anyone else want to speak? No. So, back to the Minister to respond.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Unrhyw un arall sydd eisiau siarad? Na. Felly, drosodd i'r Gweinidog i ymateb.
English: So, I now propose a motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting. Are you all content? Yes. So, we'll go into private session.
Welsh: Felly, dwi'n cynnig, o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42, i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod hwn. Ydy pawb yn gytûn? Ydyn. Felly, fe fyddwn ni'n mynd i mewn i breifat.
English: Thank you, Carolyn. I will be contributing in Welsh, so can I just check once again that the interpretation is working? Excellent, yes. I'd just start by saying thank you very much for coming today. I'm sorry that I can't be in the room in person this morning; I have commitments in my constituency. It's very sad to hear evidence once again before us of racism against people who are Travellers or who are from Gypsy or Roma backgrounds. It's heartbreaking to hear that. Last week, we had the Urdd Eisteddfod in Denbighshire, where children from across Wales were competing in competitions such as folk singing, folk dancing, and so on. None of those traditions here in Wales would exist if it weren't for the Roma, for example. It was the Roma and Gypsies that ensured that those traditions continued. So, there are lessons for us to learn, and we need to ensure that the people and children of Wales know about that history. And I wanted to put that on record, and regret that we're having to have this conversation once again. But you have, Allison specifically, talked about the racism heard and experienced by people, officials and elected representatives when it comes to discussion of sites. When it comes to culturally appropriate sites, be they transit sites or permanent sites, are there sufficient numbers of those sites in Wales at the moment, in your view? I suspect I know what the answer is, but let's have it on the record.
Welsh: Diolch, Carolyn. Mi fyddaf i yn cyfrannu'n Gymraeg, felly os gallaf wirio unwaith eto fod y cyfieithu yn gweithio. Dyna ni, ardderchog. Dim ond i ddweud ar y cychwyn diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am fynychu. Ymddiheuriadau fy mod i'n methu bod yna mewn person y bore yma - ymrwymiadau yn yr etholaeth. Mae'n drist iawn i glywed tystiolaeth unwaith eto ger ein bron o hiliaeth yn erbyn pobl sydd yn Deithwyr neu o gefndir Roma a Sipsiwn. Mae'n dorcalonnus i glywed hynny. Wythnos diwethaf, roedd gennym ni Eisteddfod yr Urdd yn Ninbych lle roedd plant bach ar draws Cymru yn cystadlu mewn cystadlaethau fatha canu gwerin, dawnsio gwerin, ac yn y blaen. Fuasai dim o hwnna, o'n traddodiadau ni yng Nghymru, fuasai dim ohono fo'n bodoli heblaw am Roma, er enghraifft. Y Roma a'r Sipsiwn ddaru sicrhau bod y traddodiadau yna'n parhau. Felly, mae yna wersi gennym ni, ac mae angen i ni sicrhau bod plant a phobl Cymru yn gwybod am hynny. Felly, roeddwn i eisiau rhoi hynny ar y record, a gresynu ein bod ni'n clywed am hyn unwaith eto. Ond, mi rydych chi, Jo, ac Allison yn benodol, wedi sôn yn barod am yr hiliaeth sy'n cael ei glywed gan bobl, swyddogion a phobl etholedig pan fydd hi'n dod i drafod safleoedd. Pan fydd hi'n dod i safleoedd sy'n ddiwylliannol briodol, boed yn rhai sydd yn rhai tramwy neu'n rhai parhaol, oes yna ddigon ohonyn nhw yng Nghymru ar hyn o bryd, yn eich barn chi? Dwi'n cymryd fy mod i'n gwybod beth fydd yr ateb, ond gadewch i ni ei gael o ar y record.
English: Before we go on to Allison, one thing that you've raised there, Jo, is that you talk about the need for affordable sites. Could you define what you mean by that in terms of affordability, please?
Welsh: Jo, cyn i ni fynd ymlaen i Allison, un peth rydych chi wedi'i godi yn fanno, Jo, yw rydych chi'n sôn bod angen safleoedd fforddiadwy. Fedrwch chi ddiffinio ychydig beth rydych chi'n golygu wrth fforddiadwyedd, os gwelwch yn dda?
English: Thank you, Allison. If I can just ask further to that point on affordability. Some of us visited sites recently and we discussed with some residents, and one of the issues was that residents said that there was an electricity supply to the site - it was a council site - but that electricity supply reached one point on the site and it was shared by all of the other units, and all of them had to pay the same, but that the price was very, very high, and higher than it would be for somebody living in a house. So, do you see that kind of situation? And thinking of affordability in its fuller sense, not just paying for the pitch, but all of the other costs associated with that. Is that a factor in your experiences too?
Welsh: Diolch, Allison. Os caf i jest ofyn ymhellach ar y fforddiadwyedd yna. Fe ddaru rhai ohonom ni wneud ymweliadau safle yn ddiweddar a mynd i drafod efo rhai preswylwyr, ac yn un ohonyn nhw roedd y preswylwyr yn sôn bod yna drydan yn dod mewn i'r safle - safle cyngor oedd hwn - ond bod y trydan yn dod mewn i un pwynt ar y safle ac yna'n cael ei rannu rhwng yr unedau eraill i gyd, a bod pob un ohonyn nhw yn gorfod talu'r un faint, ond bod y pris hefyd yn uchel iawn, yn uwch na fuasai hwyrach rhywun mewn tŷ yn gorfod talu. Ydych chi'n gweld y math yna o beth? O feddwl am fforddiadwyedd yn ei ystyr lawn, nid jest talu am y pitch, ond am yr holl gostau ychwanegol yna. Ydy hynny'n ffactor yn eich astudiaethau neu yn eich profiadau chi?
English: Thank you very much. You raise a very important and interesting point there, something that some have already told us about in their evidence. And I'd like to perhaps expand on this point of the suitability of sites, before going on to talk about how much consultation and discussion there is between local authorities and the communities that we're talking about. A great deal of the evidence that we've received, and certainly that I've seen, says that the current sites just aren't appropriate. They're at the sides of very busy roads, so children have to cross very busy roads to go nearby parks, for example; they're secluded and far away from shops or social centres. That was true of the evidence that we received. Allison and Jo, do you think that that is true in general in Wales? Is that a common picture that you're aware of, and how can we improve that situation? What do we need to do to change that? Allison.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Rydych chi'n codi pwynt difyr yn fanno hefyd, rhywbeth mae rhai wedi sôn wrthym ni yn eu tystiolaeth. A hoffwn i, os yn bosib, ymhelaethu ychydig ar y pwynt yma o addasrwydd safle i gychwyn, cyn mynd ymlaen i drafod faint o ymgynghori a faint o drafodaeth sydd rhwng awdurdodau lleol â'r cymunedau rydyn ni'n sôn amdanynt. Mae lot fawr o'r dystiolaeth rydyn ni wedi'i chael, neu dwi'n sicr wedi'i chael, yn sôn bod y safleoedd presennol jest ddim yn addas. Maen nhw ar ochr ffyrdd prysur iawn, felly mae plant yn gorfod croesi ffyrdd prysur er mwyn mynd i barc cyfagos, er enghraifft; maen nhw'n ddiarffordd ac yn bell o siopau neu ganolfannau cymdeithasol. Roedd hwnna'n wir yn y dystiolaeth rydym ni wedi'i derbyn. Ydych chi'n meddwl, Allison a Jo, fod hwnna'n gyffredinol wir yng Nghymru? Ydy hwnna'n ddarlun cyffredin, a sut fedrwn ni wella hynny? Beth sydd angen ei wneud er mwyn newid? Allison.