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English: Well, to be fair, the easiest route would be to accept the other proposals in terms of the Llywydd's options, but, as it happens, this is also the route taken by Scotland - not that that answers the question in any way. But I do think that it is evidence of the fact that we have looked at all of the options. If you look in detail at the other options, I don't see a clear pathway through those. There's no other body that would be appropriate to fund. I think there is a constitutional question with the Government paying, because the accountability for the body is not to the Government. That's a very important principle, and I'm sure you would agree with that. And there are issues of competence as to how we can make amendments to other legislation in order to pay directly, and there are processes where people are paid directly because there is no route of accountability to the Assembly - that is, you need distance between the body and the Assembly. So, personally, I don't see that any of those approaches are entirely appropriate for the relationship we'll have as an institution with the commission in the future. I suppose that's why Scotland's followed the same kind of route.
Welsh: Wel, i fod yn deg, y llwybr hawsaf fuasai derbyn y dadleuon eraill o ran beth yw'r drafodaeth o'r Llywydd ac ati, ond dyma hefyd, fel mae'n digwydd, y llwybr mae'r Alban yn ei gymryd - nid bod hynny yn ateb hefyd i'r cwestiwn. Ond rwy'n credu ei fod e'n dystiolaeth o'r ffaith ein bod ni wedi edrych ar yr opsiynau ar y cyd. Os edrychwch chi mewn manylder ar yr opsiynau eraill, dwi ddim yn gweld llwybr clir trwyddyn nhw. Does dim corff arall a fyddai'n addas i ariannu. Mae cwestiwn, rwy'n credu, cyfansoddiadol o ran y Llywodraeth yn talu, oherwydd dyw atebolrwydd y corff ddim i'r Llywodraeth. Buasai honno'n egwyddor bwysig iawn, rwy'n siŵr y byddech chi'n cytuno â hynny. Ac wedyn mae cwestiynau o gymhwysedd ynglŷn â sut ŷn ni'n gallu gwneud gwelliannau i ddeddfwriaeth arall er mwyn sicrhau talu'n uniongyrchol, a hefyd mae prosesau lle mae pobl yn cael eu talu yn uniongyrchol oherwydd does dim atebolrwydd i'r Cynulliad - hynny yw, mae angen pellter rhwng y corff a'r Cynulliad. Felly, dwi ddim fy hun yn gweld bod unrhyw un o'r patrymau hynny yn gwbl addas i'r berthynas fydd gyda ni fel sefydliad â'r comisiwn yn y dyfodol. Am wn i, dyna hefyd pam mae'r Alban wedi mynd ar hyd yr un llwybr.
English: That's fair enough; I don't find that difficult at all. Have you discussed - ? Well, it's evident that you have discussed this with the Commission.
Welsh: Ac mae hynny'n ddigon teg; dwi ddim yn ffeindio hynny'n anodd o gwbl. Ydych chi wedi trafod - ? Mae'n amlwg eich bod chi wedi trafod hyn gyda'r Comisiwn.
English: With the commission?
Welsh: Gyda'r comisiwn?
English: The Commission - sorry, the Assembly Commission.
Welsh: Y Comisiwn - sori, Comisiwn y Cynulliad.
English: Yes, we have. There have been discussions between officials, and I met with the Llywydd last week to go through the various options, and you will know, of course, that the Llywydd has some questions on our proposals. So, we have agreed to look at ways of making our proposed process a little simpler, perhaps, from the Commission's point of view. But we've discussed - I've had direct discussions with the Llywydd, but there have also been discussions over a period of time.
Welsh: Do, do. Mae trafodaethau wedi bod rhwng swyddogion, ond gwnes i gwrdd gyda'r Llywydd wythnos diwethaf i fynd trwy'r opsiynau ac i drafod - rydych chi'n gwybod, wrth gwrs, fod gan y Llywydd gwestiynau ynglŷn â'r hyn ŷn ni'n cynnig, felly, ar un neu ddau o'r mannau yna, rŷm ni wedi cytuno i edrych ar ffyrdd o wneud y broses ŷn ni'n ei hargymell ychydig yn haws, yn symlach efallai, o safbwynt y Comisiwn. Ond rŷn wedi trafod - rydw i wedi trafod yn uniongyrchol â'r Llywydd, ond mae trafodaethau wedi bod yn digwydd ers sbel am hyn.
English: Thank you. You say you looked at four options before coming to this decision. Had you developed costings around the four options, and, if you have, will they be publicly available?
Welsh: Diolch. Rydych chi'n dweud eich bod chi wedi edrych ar bedwar opsiwn cyn dod i'r penderfyniad. Oeddech chi wedi datblygu costiadau o gwmpas y pedwar opsiwn, ac, os oeddech chi, a fydd y rheini ar gael i'r cyhoedd?
English: We didn't reach that point. They fell at earlier hurdles, in terms of constitutional issues or the accountability relationship, so we didn't get to the point where it made sense to carry out an assessment of cost. There were other reasons that took them off the list from our perspective.
Welsh: Wnaethon nhw ddim cyrraedd y cam hwnnw. Gwnaethon nhw syrthio ar yr hurdles cyn hynny, fel petai, o ran pethau cyfansoddiadol neu o ran y berthynas atebolrwydd, felly wnaethon ni ddim cyrraedd y pwynt lle'r oedd e'n gwneud synnwyr i wneud asesiad o gost. Roedd rhesymau eraill yn eu tynnu nhw i ffwrdd o'r rhestr o'n safbwynt ni.
English: You referred a couple of times to the way they do things in Scotland. But, of course, the corporate body in Scotland already directly funds external bodies, namely the role that the Finance Committee carries out here. So, you can't make that comparison simply, I would suspect, because the context is different.
Welsh: Gwnaethoch chi gyfeirio cwpwl o weithiau at y ffordd maen nhw'n ei wneud e yn yr Alban. Wel, wrth gwrs, mae'r corporate body yn yr Alban eisoes yn ariannu'n uniongyrchol gyrff allanol, sef y rôl mae'r Pwyllgor Cyllid yn ei gyflawni fan hyn. Felly, dyw e ddim yn gymhariaeth - allwch chi ddim gwneud y gymhariaeth yn syml, byddwn i'n tybio, oherwydd mae'r cyd-destun yn wahanol.
English: Well, the Assembly Commission funds external organisations too, so that comparison applies there.
Welsh: Wel, mae Comisiwn y Cynulliad yn ariannu cyrff allanol hefyd, felly mae'r gymhariaeth honno'n gymwys i'r pethau hynny.
English: Have you had - or what discussions have you had with the Auditor General for Wales on the appropriateness of what you're recommending?
Welsh: Oes yna - neu ba drafodaethau sydd wedi bod efo Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru ynglŷn â phriodoldeb yr hyn yr ydych chi'n ei argymell?
English: There have been some discussions and I am confident that our recommendations as a set of amendments are something that they would be comfortable with. But I'm sure you'd need to seek those assurances yourselves. But, from our perspective, those discussions support our proposed route.
Welsh: Mae trafodaethau wedi bod, ac rwy'n sicr bod yr hyn rŷm ni'n ei argymell fel set o welliannau yn rhywbeth buasen nhw'n gyfforddus gyda fe. Ond rwy'n sicr y byddwch chi eisiau cael sicrhau hynny eich hunan, efallai gyda thrafodaeth gyda nhw. Ond, o'n safbwynt ni, mae'r drafodaeth yna yn cefnogi'r llwybr rŷm ni'n ei argymell.
English: Could you tell us whether the other routes were discussed with the auditor general? Did the advice that you had, or the answers that you had to the questions, point in the same direction that you settled on, or did the auditor say, 'Well, all of them are possible'?
Welsh: Ydych chi'n gallu dweud wrthym ni a drafodwyd y llwybrau eraill posib efo'r archwilydd cyffredinol? A oedd y cyngor a dderbynioch chi, neu'r atebion a dderbynioch chi i'r cwestiynau, yn pwyntio i'r un cyfeiriad yr ydych chi wedi setlo arno fo, ynteu oedd yr archwilydd yn dweud, 'Wel, mae pob un ohonyn nhw'n bosib'?
English: Well, some of the objections to the other routes related to competence or broader questions, but, in terms of detailed discussions, perhaps I could ask Chris to comment on that in terms of the WAO.
Welsh: Wel, roedd rhai o'r gwrthwynebiadau i lwybrau eraill yn wrthwynebiadau o ran cymhwysedd neu o ran cwestiynau ehangach na hynny, ond, o ran trafodaethau manwl, efallai y gallwn i ofyn i Chris roi sylwad ar hynny o ran yr WAO.
English: Okay. Thank you. In giving new responsibilities to the Assembly Commission, you say that there would be a need to change the Standing Orders of the Assembly. How would you do that? How have you satisfied yourself that it would be possible to change the Standing Orders in a way that allows you to follow the route that you recommend?
Welsh: Ocê. Thank you - diolch yn fawr. O gael proses o roi cyfrifoldebau newydd i Gomisiwn y Cynulliad, mi ydych chi'n dweud y byddai angen newid Rheolau Sefydlog y Cynulliad. Sut fyddai gwneud hynny? Sut ydych chi wedi bodloni'ch hun bod modd newid y Rheolau Sefydlog hynny mewn ffordd sy'n caniatáu dilyn y llwybr rydych chi'n ei argymell?
English: Well, the first thing to say, of course, is that this is a question for the Assembly and the Business Committee in terms of the detail. But, in terms of some broad ideas in terms of what would need to be done in terms of the goal, at least, I think we would need to change Standing Orders in order to secure a clear role for this committee on the one hand, and the Assembly body, whatever that may be, on the other, so that it is clear what the relationship there would be. We need to describe a process as to how Electoral Commission funding would become part of the ambit or the remit of the Assembly committee, and the parallel process of scrutinising the figures in terms of the Electoral Commission and the broader budget of the Commission itself, and then to describe the process as to how those two things would dovetail and how this committee would scrutinise that. So, we need to describe those specific steps in Standing Orders, but I do think that's perfectly possible if the Assembly's willing to do that.
Welsh: Wel, y peth cyntaf i'w ddweud wrth gwrs yw mai cwestiwn i'r Cynulliad, y Pwyllgor Busnes ac ati, yw manylder hynny, ond, o ran syniadau bras am beth fuasai angen ei wneud o ran nod, o leiaf, rwy'n credu y byddai angen newid y Rheolau Sefydlog i sicrhau rôl eglur i'r pwyllgor hwn ar yr un llaw, a chorff y Senedd, corff y Cynulliad - beth bynnag fyddai'r corff hwnnw - ar y llaw arall, fel ei fod e'n glir beth yw perthynas un â'r llall, disgrifio'r broses o sut byddai arian Comisiwn Etholiadol yn dod yn rhan o ambit neu gylch gorchwyl Comisiwn y Cynulliad a'r broses baralel o sgrwtineiddio'r ffigurau o ran Comisiwn Etholiadol a chyllideb ehangach y Comisiwn ei hun, ac wedyn disgrifio'r broses sut byddai'r ddau yn dod at y cyd a'r broses o gael hynny yn cael ei graffu gan y pwyllgor hwn. Felly, mae angen disgrifio'r camau penodol hynny, rwy'n credu, yn y rheolau, ond rwy'n credu bod hynny'n berffaith bosib os ydy'r Cynulliad yn hapus i wneud hynny.
English: The only thing that you have to consider is the legality of those steps, and you're satisfied there's no problem in that regard. But one important question, I think, in terms of the process that we're pursuing as a legislature is: do you think it's appropriate for the statutory remit of the Assembly Commission to be extended in a way that is very different to the current situation without an opportunity to undertake Stage 1 scrutiny on this fundamental change?
Welsh: Yr unig beth rydych chi'n gorfod ei ystyried ydy cyfreithlondeb y camau, ac rydych chi wedi bodloni eich hunan nad oes yna ddim problem yn y fan honno. Un cwestiwn pwysig iawn, dwi'n meddwl, o ran y broses rydym ni'n ei dilyn fel deddfwrfa: a ydych chi wir yn credu ei bod hi yn briodol i gylch gwaith statudol Comisiwn y Cynulliad gael ei ymestyn mewn ffordd sydd yn dra gwahanol i'r sefyllfa bresennol heb gyfle i graffu Cyfnod 1 ar y newid sylfaenol hwnnw?
English: Well, yes, if the Assembly believes that to be appropriate. I certainly think it's possible. Although we are discussing the detail of this now, as you say, there was a broader discussion on the Commission's role in relation to the Electoral Commission at Stage 1. So, I do think that that is a precedent for the discussion that we'll have.
Welsh: Wel, ydw, os ydy'r Cynulliad yn credu bod hynny'n addas. Rwyf yn sicr yn credu bod hynny yn bosib. Er mai nawr rŷm ni'n trafod manylder y peth, fel dŷch chi'n ei ddweud, roedd trafodaeth ehangach am rôl i'r Comisiwn o ran y perthynas gyda'r Comisiwn Etholiadol yn Gyfnod 1. Felly, rwy'n credu bod hynny'n gynsail i'r drafodaeth y byddwn ni'n ei chael.
English: Well, there is some detail here, but in terms of the point of principle raised in your question, I think there has been a broader discussion earlier in the process. This isn't the first time that the idea has been flagged up in relation to the Bill as to the role and the relationship between the institution and the Electoral Commission. So that broader discussion has been happening for some time. The detail arises now because specific amendments are in the pipeline, but I think that the discussion on the principle has happened at an earlier stage.
Welsh: Wel, mae manylder yma, ond o ran y pwynt o egwyddor y gwnaethoch chi godi yn y cwestiwn, rwy'n credu bod trafodaeth ehangach wedi bod ynghynt yn y broses. Nid dyma'r tro cyntaf y mae'r syniad wedi codi yn ystod trafodaeth ar y Bil ynglŷn â'r rôl a'r berthynas rhwng y sefydliad a'r Comisiwn Etholiadol. Felly mae'r drafodaeth ehangach honno wedi bod yn digwydd ers amser. Mae'r manylder yn codi nawr gan fod gwelliannau penodol ar y gweill. Ond rwy'n credu bod y drafodaeth o ran egwyddor wedi bod yn digwydd yn gynt na hyn.
English: Don't you think that there's an element of over-complication, that the Assembly Commission stands between the Electoral Commission and this committee and the Assembly in its entirety? Wouldn't it be easier just to make the Electoral Commission accountable to a committee here, just like the majority of other external bodies that receive funding from us in other contexts?
Welsh: Chi ddim yn meddwl bod yna elfen o or-gymhlethu'r sefyllfa, fod Comisiwn y Cynulliad yn rhyw fath o sefyll rhwng y Comisiwn Etholiadol a'r pwyllgor yma a'r Cynulliad yn ei gyfanrwydd? Hynny yw, oni fyddai'n haws jest gwneud y Comisiwn Etholiadol yn atebol i bwyllgor yn fan hyn, fel mae cyrff allanol sy'n derbyn cyllid gennym ni'n gwneud yn y rhan fwyaf o gyd-destunau eraill?
English: Well, the Electoral Commission don't believe that. They have said at Stage 1 that, in terms of constitutional principle, they would prefer to be accountable to a body that has an element of party political independence. So the proposal that we make in terms of a body headed by the Llywydd or within the Commission answers that. In terms of making things more complex, we always want to ensure that our processes aren't overly complicated, but that's one of the fundamental principles in the mix with many others, and I think this is an area where there are a lot of competing priorities. So I myself don't think that there is too much complexity here that would outweigh the other important principles on the table.
Welsh: Wel, dyw'r Comisiwn Etholiadol ddim yn credu hynny. Maen nhw wedi dweud yng Nghyfnod 1 bod yn well ganddyn nhw o ran egwyddor gyfansoddiadol fod yn atebol i gorff sydd ag elfen o annibyniaeth wleidyddol, hynny yw, pleidiol. Felly, mae'r cynnig sydd gennym ni o gorff gyda'r Llywydd neu gorff o fewn y Comisiwn yn ateb hynny. O ran y cwestiwn ehangach o ran cymhlethu pethau, rŷm ni wastad eisiau sicrhau bod ein prosesau ni ddim yn gor-gymhlethu pethau, wrth gwrs, ond un o'r egwyddorion pwysig yw hynny yn y mix gydag egwyddorion eraill, ac rwy'n credu bod hwn yn faes lle mae lot o egwyddorion yn cystadlu am flaenoriaeth. Felly dwi ddim fy hunan yn credu bod gormod o gymhlethdod yma i orbwyso yr egwyddorion pwysig eraill sydd ar y bwrdd.
English: I have one further question. It's a bit marginal, but it does stem directly from the amendments that we have before us here. In the English text that I have before me, the 'Senedd' word, of course, is what's used in terms of the Senedd body - 'the relevant Senedd body' and so on. The First Minister has stated that he supports the principle of an official monolingual Welsh name, as you use in these amendments. Can you confirm whether that's still the Government's policy, or whether there's going to be any slippage on that?
Welsh: Mae gen i un cwestiwn. Mae o ychydig yn ymylol, ond mae o'n deillio'n uniongyrchol o'r gwelliannau sydd o'n blaenau ni fan hyn. Yn y testun Saesneg sydd o fy mlaen i fan hyn, yr enw 'Senedd', wrth gwrs, ydy'r gair sy'n cael ei ddefnyddio - ' the relevant Senedd body ' ac yn y blaen. Mae'r Prif Weinidog wedi datgan ei fod o yn cefnogi'r egwyddor o enw swyddogol uniaith Gymraeg, fel rydych chi'n ei ddefnyddio yn y gwelliannau yma. Allwch chi gadarnhau mai dyna ydy polisi'r Llywodraeth o hyd, ac nad oes yna lithro, neu yn mynd i fod, ar hynny?
English: We have mentioned that we either intend to table or support amendments to change the name 'Senedd', and we will present further detail on that in due course.
Welsh: Rŷn ni wedi sôn ein bod ni'n bwriadu naill ai gyflwyno neu gefnogi gwelliannau i newid enw'r Senedd, o'r gair 'Senedd' sydd yn y Ddeddf nawr. Byddwn ni'n cyflwyno manylion pellach am hynny.
English: That is, not to have a monolingual Welsh name.
Welsh: Hynny ydy, i beidio â chael enw uniaith Gymraeg.
English: Okay. Could I thank you for your evidence and thank your officials for being with us this morning? Evidently, we'll hear from the Llywydd later on, and although there might not be agreement on everything, I'm sure that we're all eager to see the highest level of scrutiny and overview of the Electoral Commission budget and responsibilities in Wales. So, thank you for joining us.
Welsh: Iawn. Gaf i ddiolch i chi am eich tystiolaeth ac i'ch swyddogion am fod gyda ni y bore yma? Yn amlwg, byddwn ni'n clywed gan y Llywydd yn nes ymlaen, ac er efallai na fydd yna gydweld ar bob dim, dwi'n siŵr ein bod ni i gyd yn awyddus i weld y lefel uchaf o graffu a throsolwg ar gyllidebau a chyfrifoldebau'r Comisiwn Etholiadol yng Nghymru. Felly, diolch yn fawr iawn i chi am fod gyda ni.
English: Thank you. The committee will have a short break, and we will reconvene at 10.00 a.m. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Mi wnaiff y pwyllgor dorri nawr, ac mi wnawn ni ailymgynnull am 10.00 a.m. Diolch.
English: Welcome back to the Finance Committee for the third item on the agenda this morning, which is to continue with the further scrutiny on the Senedd and Elections (Wales) Bill. Could I welcome the Llywydd for this session? And could I ask the Llywydd to introduce her officials?
Welsh: Croeso nôl i'r Pwyllgor Cyllid ar gyfer trydedd eitem ein cyfarfod ni y bore yma, sef i barhau â'r craffu pellach ar y Bil Senedd ac Etholiadau (Cymru). A gaf i groesawu'r Llywydd atom ni ar gyfer y sesiwn yma? A gaf i ofyn, efallai, i'r Llywydd gyflwyno ei swyddogion?
English: Thank you very much. I am here as Llywydd, yes, but I'm also the Member in charge of the Senedd and Elections (Wales) Bill. I'm joined by Manon Antoniazzi, chief executive of the Commission and the accounting officer. Nia Morgan is the director of finance at the Commission, and Anna Daniel is the head of strategic transformation for the Commission.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Dwi yma fel Llywydd, ydw, ond dwi hefyd yma fel yr Aelod sy'n gyfrifol am y Mesur Senedd ac Etholiadau (Cymru). Mae Manon Antoniazzi yma fel prif weithredwr y Comisiwn, a hefyd swyddog cyllideb y Comisiwn. Nia Morgan yw cyfarwyddwr cyllid y Comisiwn, ac Anna Daniel yw pennaeth trawsnewid strategol y Comisiwn.
English: Thank you very much. We'll go straight into questions, if that's okay? And I'll ask you at the outset: will you be supporting the Counsel General's proposed amendments to section 27, as they've been currently drafted?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Fe awn ni'n syth i gwestiynau, os ydy hynny'n iawn gyda chi? Ac fe wnaf i ofyn yn blwmp ac yn blaen ar y dechrau: a fyddwch chi'n cefnogi gwelliannau'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol i adran 27, fel y maen nhw wedi cael eu cyflwyno?
English: Indeed, it is. Okay, thank you very much. Could I just also ask: what work has been undertaken to develop costings in relation to the amendments that the Counsel General has tabled? Are you aware of the costings that have been undertaken, and have there been discussions between the Welsh Government and the Assembly Commission on those costings? Because the only thing that we've seen, officially, of course, is the general cost of administering the Electoral Commission. The Counsel General tells us that there are specific costings on the amendments. Have you been part of those discussions?
Welsh: Ydy, wir. Ocê, diolch yn fawr iawn. Gaf i jest ofyn hefyd: pa waith sydd wedi cael ei wneud o ran costiadau ar y gwelliannau drafft yma y mae'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol wedi'u gosod? Ydych chi'n ymwybodol o'r costiadau sydd wedi cael eu gwneud, ac a oes yna drafodaethau wedi bod rhwng Llywodraeth Cymru a Chomisiwn y Cynulliad ar y costiadau hynny? Oherwydd yr unig beth rŷn ni wedi gweld yn swyddogol, wrth gwrs, yw'r gost eang, gyffredinol o weinyddu'r Comisiwn Etholiadol. Mae'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol yn dweud wrthym ni fod yna gostiadau penodol wedi'u gwneud ar y gwelliannau. Ydych chi wedi bod yn rhan o'r drafodaeth yna?
English: I haven't directly participated in those. We do have our own estimates on the costings of the Counsel General's amendments and the model proposed by the Counsel General. And, of course, as that would be a model funded through the Assembly Commission - I need to make that distinction in this discussion.
Welsh: Dwi ddim yn uniongyrchol wedi bod yn rhan o'r rheini. Mae gyda ni ein hamcangyfrifon ein hunain ynglŷn â'r costiadau o ddarparu gwelliannau'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol a'r model y mae'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol yn ei awgrymu. Fe fyddai hynny, wrth gwrs, oherwydd y byddai'n fodel sy'n dod drwy'r Comisiwn - Comisiwn y Cynulliad, mae'n rhaid i fi ddweud hynny drwy'r amser yn y drafodaeth yma.
English: Yes, to differentiate.
Welsh: Ie, i wahaniaethu.
English: I am talking here of the Assembly Commission. We would then have to provide our officials to ensure that the accounting elements that our accounting officer would be responsible for are properly implemented. So, at the moment, our estimate of that, which is the Counsel General's model, is that we would need to provide something in the region of half an official at - how is it described?
Welsh: Comisiwn y Cynulliad. Fe fyddai'n rhaid inni fod wedyn yn darparu gwaith ein swyddogion ni i sicrhau bod yr elfennau cyfrifo y byddai ein swyddog cyfrifo ni yn gyfrifol amdanynt yn cael eu gweithredu. Felly, ar hyn o bryd, ein hamcangyfrif ni o hynny, sef model y Cwnsler Cyffredinol, yw y byddai'n rhaid inni fod o leiaf yn darparu rhywbeth rhwng hanner swyddog ar lefel - beth ŷch chi'n ei alw?
English: Senior.
Welsh: Hŷn.
English: Senior level - to undertake that work. That's half an official to a full-time official, which takes us to something in the region of £35,000 to £70,000 to provide work that we're not currently responsible for.
Welsh: Hŷn - i fod yn gwneud y gwaith yna. Hanner swyddog i swyddog llawn, sy'n mynd â ni o rywle rhwng £35,000 i £70,000 o werth arian swyddog, i ddarparu gwaith rŷn ni ddim yn gyfrifol amdano ar hyn o bryd.
English: Okay, because the Counsel General said this morning that he would share those costs with us by next week, so we'd be eager to see those before we're in a situation to undertake a vote on funding the Bill. Okay, thank you. Alun.
Welsh: Iawn, achos mi ddywedodd y cwnsler y bore yma y byddai'n rhannu'r costau hynny gyda ni cyn wythnos nesaf, felly byddem ni'n amlwg yn awyddus i weld y rheini cyn ein bod ni mewn sefyllfa i wneud pleidlais ar ariannu'r Bil. Iawn, diolch yn fawr. Alun.
English: Are you intending to continue discussions with the Government and with the Counsel General to resolve this dispute between you?
Welsh: Ydych chi'n bwriadu parhau â'r trafodaethau gyda'r Llywodraeth a gyda'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol i ddatrys yr anghytundeb yma rhyngoch chi?