English: Well, Llywydd, let me put the record straight here. When Lee Waters was reported, he was speaking in an unscripted way in a discussion with an audience, and I want Ministers in a Welsh Government who are able to debate issues with others and who are able to provide challenge to Government itself in the way that our policies are carried out. The truth about the Welsh economy over that 20 years is that we end it with the highest levels of employment we have ever had. We end it with the lowest levels of economic inactivity we have ever had. We end it with one of the highest levels of business growth that we have ever had. We have the best regional performance in creating jobs through inward investment of any part of the United Kingdom. We have exports rising in Wales again last year, by 7.5 per cent. These are the facts of the Welsh economy, and I was very pleased to meet Ieuan Wyn Jones again last night and to hear him talk about the time that he was in charge of the Welsh economy and the policies that he pursued there. I noticed that when the Member, as he does, casts his wide glance across 20 years, he never reminds us of the fact that his party was in charge of the economy during the time that he just told me everything was failing throughout. I don't agree with him. It wasn't failing then. It hasn't failed through the 20 years either. Where Lee Waters was absolutely correct was to point to the fact that, in an economy that is challenged by austerity, that is challenged by Brexit, that is challenged by automation, that is challenged by globalisation, the ways in which all Governments have responded to economic challenges over the last 20 years will not themselves be sufficient for the next 20 years, and therefore we will need new solutions, new experimentation, different ways of addressing these challenges, and, in that, he was absolutely correct.
Welsh: Wel, Llywydd, gadewch i mi nodi'r gwir yn y fan yma. Pan adroddwyd geiriau Lee Waters, roedd yn siarad mewn modd heb ei sgriptio mewn trafodaeth gyda chynulleidfa, ac rwyf i eisiau Gweinidogion mewn Llywodraeth Cymru sy'n gallu trafod materion ag eraill ac yn gallu herio'r Llywodraeth ei hun o ran y ffordd y mae ein polisïau'n cael eu gweithredu. Y gwir am economi Cymru dros yr 20 mlynedd hynny yw ein bod ni'n eu cloi gyda'r lefelau cyflogaeth uchaf a fu gennym erioed. Rydym ni'n eu cloi gyda'r lefelau isaf o anweithgarwch economaidd a fu gennym erioed. Rydym ni'n eu cloi gydag un o'r lefelau twf busnes uchaf a fu gennym erioed. Mae gennym ni'r perfformiad rhanbarthol gorau o ran creu swyddi drwy fewnfuddsoddiad o'i gymharu ag unrhyw ran o'r Deyrnas Unedig. Mae gennym ni allforion a gynyddodd yng Nghymru unwaith eto y llynedd, 7.5 y cant. Dyma ffeithiau economi Cymru, ac roeddwn i'n falch iawn o gyfarfod â Ieuan Wyn Jones unwaith eto neithiwr a'i glywed yn siarad am yr adeg pan yr oedd ef yn gyfrifol am economi Cymru a'r polisïau a ddilynodd bryd hynny. Sylwais pan fydd yr Aelod, fel y mae'n arfer ei wneud, yn bwrw ei olwg eang ar draws 20 mlynedd, nad yw byth yn ein hatgoffa o'r ffaith bod ei blaid ef yn gyfrifol am yr economi yn ystod yr adeg y mae newydd ddweud wrthyf fi bod popeth yn methu drwyddi draw. Nid wyf i'n cytuno ag ef. Nid oedd yn methu bryd hynny. Nid yw wedi methu drwy'r 20 mlynedd ychwaith. Lle'r oedd Lee Waters yn gwbl gywir oedd i dynnu sylw at y ffaith, mewn economi sy'n cael ei herio gan gyni cyllidol, sy'n cael ei herio gan Brexit, sy'n cael ei herio gan awtomeiddio, sy'n cael ei herio gan bwysau globaleiddio, na fydd y ffyrdd y mae pob Llywodraeth wedi ymateb i heriau economaidd dros yr 20 mlynedd diwethaf yn ddigonol ynddynt eu hunain ar gyfer yr 20 mlynedd nesaf, ac felly byddwn ni angen atebion newydd, arbrofi newydd, gwahanol ffyrdd o fynd i'r afael â'r heriau hyn, ac yn hynny o beth, roedd yn llygad ei le.