English: Off to a blazing start, Llywydd - off to a blazing start. [ Laughter.] Can I thank Llyr Huws Gruffydd for his support for all of the amendments that I've tabled in this group? And can I start on an area of agreement, Cabinet Secretary, if I can? And that is that, given that amendment 28 achieves precisely the policy aim of amendment 4, I'm more than happy not to move my amendment 4 and to support amendment 28 instead. Both you and I agree on one thing, and that is that we must make sure that there's independent advice and that that is not tainted in any way by local authorities in a way that does a disservice to the children and young people that we want this Bill to support and to help. In terms of an accessible version of the code, you set out very clearly that that code is there for professionals, not for children and young people; it's for the use of professionals. But the reality is that, if we want people to know what their rights are, if we want people to be able to access the support that they should be entitled to, then people have to be able to understand the whole of the system in its entirety, and sometimes that might mean that they want access to more of the detail, not just the information and advice leaflets, for example, that might be available from a local authority. So, I'm afraid I will still be wishing to move amendment 4 and to put that to the vote, because I think it is an important principle. I know that you agree that information should be available, but I do think that having an accessible version of the code is one way of making sure that that information is readily available to children and young people in a national format, available across the whole of the country. Because let's not forget: at the moment, as it stands, each individual local education authority will be able to produce different versions of the code - of the information and advice literature that they might want to distribute, rather - and that, I think, will take away, perhaps, some of the levelling that can by done by having a national, accessible version of the code for children and young people. I'm also a little disappointed that you've rejected recommendation 5 on key transitions and making sure that people are prompted with the fact that there is an additional learning needs system at those key transitions, because, of course, as I said earlier, this was a recommendation of the Children, Young People and Education Committee. We studied the code in detail, we heard evidence from a range of stakeholders, and they were very clear that they felt that it was worth reminding people, at those key transitions - and not just at the point of key decisions, which is the phrase that you used - that there are support services available, particularly advocacy services, should they require them. Now, that could be someone moving from one area to another; it could mean someone moving up a school within an existing local authority area; it could mean people progressing from primary to secondary or secondary on to a further education institution. And I think it is important, actually, to make sure that people are reminded of the availability of information on the additional learning system that we will hopefully have as a result of this important legislation at those key points of transition. I also note that you're going to encourage people to reject amendments 6, 7, 8, 9, 14 and 15. You've quite rightly agreed with my policy objective here, and that is that people are fully informed prior to making a choice to not give consent to have either an assessment or to receive any additional learning needs support. But I'm afraid my reading of sections 6 and 7 doesn't give me the same confident assurances that you have. It talks, yes, about giving people information, but doesn't necessarily say anything about specific information at the time that that young person is choosing not to consent. So, the Bill, as it's currently written, does potentially allow some abuse of those clauses, and that's why I've sought to improve them by inserting the words that that person must have 'been informed of the significance and implications of their decision' prior to that point of not giving their consent. So, I still want to move those as well, and I very much hope that Members will agree with the arguments I've put forward.
Welsh: Dyna ddechrau gwych, Llywydd - dyna ddechrau gwych. [ Chwerthin.] A gaf i ddiolch i Llyr Huws Gruffydd am gefnogi pob un o'r gwelliannau yr wyf wedi eu cyflwyno yn y grŵp hwn? Ac a gaf i ddechrau ar agwedd y mae cytundeb yn ei gylch, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, os caf? A hynny yw, oherwydd bod gwelliant 28 yn cyflawni union nod polisi gwelliant 4, rwyf yn fwy na pharod i beidio â chynnig fy ngwelliant 4 ac i gefnogi gwelliant 28 yn hytrach. Rydych chi a minnau yn cytuno ar un peth, a hynny yw bod yn rhaid inni wneud yn siŵr bod cyngor annibynnol ar gael ac nad awdurdodau lleol wedi dylanwadu ar hwnnw mewn modd sy'n gwneud anghymwynas â phlant a phobl ifanc yr ydym ni eisiau i'r Bil hwn eu cefnogi a'u helpu. O ran fersiwn hygyrch o'r cod, fe wnaethoch chi egluro'n glir iawn bod y cod ar gyfer gweithwyr proffesiynol, nid ar gyfer plant a phobl ifanc; mae i'w ddefnyddio gan weithwyr proffesiynol. Ond y gwir amdani yw, os ydym eisiau i bobl wybod beth yw eu hawliau, os ydym eisiau i bobl allu manteisio ar y cymorth y dylai fod ganddyn nhw'r hawl iddo, yna mae'n rhaid i bobl allu deall yr holl system yn ei chyfanrwydd, ac weithiau fe allai hynny olygu yr hoffen nhw weld mwy o fanylion, nid yn unig yr wybodaeth a'r taflenni cyngor, er enghraifft, a allai fod ar gael gan yr awdurdod lleol. Felly, mae arnaf ofn fy mod yn dal i ddymuno cynnig gwelliant 4 a gofyn am bleidlais ar hynny, oherwydd rwy'n credu ei fod yn egwyddor bwysig. Rwy'n gwybod eich bod yn cytuno y dylai gwybodaeth fod ar gael, ond rwyf yn credu bod cael fersiwn hygyrch o'r cod yn un ffordd o wneud yn siŵr bod yr wybodaeth honno ar gael yn hawdd i blant a phobl ifanc mewn fformat cenedlaethol, sydd ar gael ledled y wlad. Oherwydd gadewch i ni beidio ag anghofio: ar hyn o bryd, fel y mae hi, bydd pob awdurdod addysg lleol unigol yn gallu cynhyrchu fersiynau gwahanol o'r cod - o'r wybodaeth a'r cyngor yr hoffen nhw o bosib eu dosbarthu, yn hytrach - a bydd hynny, rwy'n credu, yn ei gwneud hi'n fwy anodd cael y tir cyffredin a fyddai'n bodoli drwy gael fersiwn hygyrch, cenedlaethol o'r cod ar gyfer plant a phobl ifanc. Rwyf hefyd braidd yn siomedig eich bod wedi gwrthod argymhelliad 5 ynglŷn ag adegau pontio allweddol, a gwneud yn siŵr y caiff pobl eu hatgoffa o'r ffaith bod system anghenion dysgu ychwanegol ar gael ar yr adegau pontio allweddol hynny, oherwydd, wrth gwrs, fel y dywedais yn gynharach, roedd hwn yn argymhelliad a wnaed gan y Pwyllgor Plant, Pobl Ifanc ac Addysg. Fe wnaethom ni astudio'r cod yn fanwl, fe glywsom ni dystiolaeth gan amrywiaeth o randdeiliaid, ac roedden nhw'n glir iawn eu bod yn teimlo ei bod hi'n werth atgoffa pobl, ar yr adegau pontio allweddol hynny - ac nid dim ond ar adeg y penderfyniadau allweddol, sef yr ymadrodd a ddefnyddiwyd gennych chi - bod yna gwasanaethau cymorth ar gael, gwasanaethau eiriolaeth yn arbennig, pe byddai arnyn nhw eu hangen. Nawr, fe allai hynny olygu rhywun yn symud o un ardal i'r llall; gallai olygu rhywun symud i fyny'r ysgol mewn ardal awdurdod lleol; fe allai olygu pobl yn symud o ysgol gynradd i ysgol uwchradd neu o addysg uwchradd ymlaen i sefydliad addysg bellach. Ac rwy'n credu ei bod hi yn bwysig, mewn gwirionedd, i wneud yn siŵr bod pobl yn cael eu hatgoffa o'r wybodaeth fydd ar gael ynglŷn â'r system dysgu ychwanegol y bydd gennym ni, gobeithio, o ganlyniad i'r ddeddfwriaeth bwysig hon ar yr adegau pontio allweddol hynny. Nodaf hefyd y byddwch chi'n annog pobl i wrthod gwelliannau 6, 7, 8, 9, 14 a 15. Rydych chi wedi cytuno'n gwbl briodol â'm hamcan polisi yn y fan yma, a hynny yw bod pobl yn meddu ar yr holl wybodaeth cyn gwneud dewis i naill ai wrthod cydsynio i gael asesiad neu i dderbyn unrhyw gymorth anghenion dysgu ychwanegol. Ond yn anffodus nid yw'r ffordd yr wyf yn darllen adrannau 6 a 7 yn rhoi imi yr un sicrwydd hyderus sydd gennych chi. Mae'n sôn, ydy, am roi gwybodaeth i bobl, ond nid yw o reidrwydd yn dweud unrhyw beth am wybodaeth benodol ar yr adeg mae person ifanc yn dewis peidio â chydsynio. Felly, mae'r Bil, fel y'i hysgrifennwyd ar hyn o bryd, o bosib yn caniatáu camarfer rhai o'r cymalau hynny, a dyna pam yr wyf i wedi ceisio eu gwella drwy fewnosod y geiriau hynny bod yn rhaid i'r person hwnnw 'gael ei hysbysu am arwyddocâd a goblygiadau ei benderfyniad' cyn yr adeg honno o beidio â rhoi eu cydsyniad. Felly, rwyf yn dal i fod eisiau cynnig y rheini hefyd, ac rwy'n gobeithio'n fawr y bydd yr Aelodau'n cytuno â'r dadleuon yr wyf i wedi eu cyflwyno.