English: I must say that this proposal does have laudable aims, and thanks, Sam, for bringing this forward for a discussion. I think trying and learning new skills in our wonderful outdoor environment of independence, bonding with others in a day at camp or an outdoor activity are ones you do remember, and it's great for physical and mental health and well-being. I don't remember going to one with school, but I went with the Brownies and Sunday school, and I remember reading to children who were missing their parents, and I know that that is an issue that has been brought up - being away from parents as well is a bit of an issue, but it is good to build that confidence. I think it's so important for children to connect with nature, because if they don't do so as a child, then they won't do as an adult. So, that's really, really important going forward. And I think, with there being a nature emergency as well as a climate emergency, I would like any programme and the curriculum to educate and teach children about the importance of the variety of wildlife and habitats, connecting to nature, and I think that the forest schools initiative is really good. So, I think it's a really great proposal if there was the funding, and the situation is dire. And according to the new Prime Minister, it's going to get even worse, and I think that there needs to be a reality check here. As you know, I was a Flintshire councillor for 14 years and I was a member of the education scrutiny committee, and I recall that, when we were looking at funding cuts over the years, we looked at the cost of giving that funding to the outdoor education centres. I know that each authority used to give towards Pentre-llyn-cymmer and Nant Bwlch yr Haearn, but, in the end, we had to look at the core funding of education, so we had to remove that funding bit by bit, which was terrible. I remember, under that austerity, every year, we sliced 30 per cent off each budget, and I remember being in the chamber facing opposition members as I was trying to introduce garden waste charges and car park increases, but I was being told by my fellow cabinet members, 'It's either do that, or we cut education.' Now, I couldn't cut education, because it's so important, but I know that other local authorities did and, I'm afraid, Sam, Conwy did cut the core funding for education and caused dire issues there, where they've had to cut teaching assistants and staff, and I just can't support this if there isn't that money going forward. Councils are facing even more funding cuts now because of what's happened over the last few weeks, because of fuel increases, inflationary pressures, and people are talking about going out on strike. I know that Cardiff is facing a £53 million funding gap, Flintshire £26 million, Conwy is about the same, and I think Denbighshire is about £10 million. It's really, really worrying. They're looking at rationalisation of play areas even - play areas; we need them on doorstep play. Closure of swimming baths, public rights of way maintenance, and countryside services - that was on the table to be cut when I was a cabinet member - access to rights of way and country parks. So, without those, what are we going to do? And those are what are on the table now. It's so worrying. We're in such a dire situation. Children are going hungry and cold. It's a matter of priorities, and this is why - . Thank goodness we've got these universal free school meals coming forward; that's so much more important. Schools are looking at wrap-around care, providing that childcare so that mothers can go out to work as well - [ Interruption.] Sorry, I'm in full flow at the moment - and becoming warm hubs. That's so important. Further education are providing breakfast because people are turning up at those hungry. These are young adults starving - [ Interruption.] I'm sorry, that wasn't a proper intervention, so I won't reply to that. Speaking briefly to the WLGA education member -
Welsh: Rhaid i mi ddweud bod yna amcanion canmoladwy i'r cynnig hwn, a diolch, Sam, am gyflwyno'r mater hwn i'w drafod. Rwy'n credu bod dysgu sgiliau newydd yn ein hamgylchedd awyr agored, sgiliau fel annibyniaeth a meithrin perthynas well ag eraill mewn diwrnod mewn gwersyll neu weithgaredd awyr agored yn rhai a gofiwch, ac mae'n wych ar gyfer iechyd corfforol a meddyliol a llesiant. Nid wyf yn cofio mynd i un gyda'r ysgol, ond euthum gyda'r Brownis a'r ysgol Sul, ac rwy'n cofio darllen i blant a oedd yn gweld colli eu rhieni, ac rwy'n gwybod bod hwnnw'n fater sydd wedi cael ei godi - mae bod i ffwrdd oddi wrth rhieni yn dipyn o broblem hefyd, ond mae'n dda i fagu hyder. Rwy'n credu ei bod mor bwysig i blant gysylltu â byd natur, achos os nad ydynt yn gwneud hynny'n blentyn, ni fyddant yn gwneud hynny'n oedolyn. Felly, mae hynny'n bwysig iawn wrth symud ymlaen. Ac o gofio bod yna argyfwng natur yn ogystal ag argyfwng hinsawdd, rwy'n credu y byddwn yn hoffi i unrhyw raglen a'r cwricwlwm addysgu plant am bwysigrwydd amrywiaeth o fywyd gwyllt a chynefinoedd, cysylltu â natur, ac rwy'n credu bod menter ysgolion y goedwig yn dda iawn. Felly, credaf y byddai'n gynnig gwych iawn pe bai'r cyllid yn bodoli, ac mae'r sefyllfa'n enbyd. Ac yn ôl y Prif Weinidog newydd, bydd yn mynd i fod yn waeth byth, ac rwy'n credu bod angen wynebu gwirioneddau yma. Fel y gwyddoch, roeddwn yn gynghorydd yn sir y Fflint am 14 mlynedd ac roeddwn yn aelod o'r pwyllgor craffu ar addysg, ac rwy'n cofio, pan oeddem yn edrych ar doriadau cyllid dros y blynyddoedd, ein bod wedi edrych ar y gost o roi'r arian hwnnw i'r canolfannau addysg awyr agored. Rwy'n gwybod bod pob awdurdod yn arfer rhoi tuag at Pentre-llyn-cymmer a Nant Bwlch yr Haearn, ond yn y diwedd, roedd yn rhaid inni edrych ar gyllid craidd addysg, felly roedd yn rhaid inni dorri'r cyllid hwnnw fesul tipyn, ac roedd hynny'n ofnadwy. Rwy'n cofio, yn ystod y cyni hwnnw, bob blwyddyn, roeddem yn torri 30 y cant oddi ar bob cyllideb, ac rwy'n cofio bod yn y siambr yn wynebu aelodau'r gwrthbleidiau wrth imi geisio cyflwyno taliadau gwastraff gardd a chynnydd i ffioedd parcio, ond roedd fy nghyd-aelodau cabinet yn dweud wrthyf, 'Naill ai hynny, neu dorri ar addysg.' Nawr, ni allwn dorri ar addysg, oherwydd mae mor bwysig, ond rwy'n gwybod bod awdurdodau lleol eraill wedi gwneud ac mae arnaf ofn, Sam, fod Conwy wedi torri'r cyllid craidd ar gyfer addysg gan achosi problemau enbyd yno, lle bu'n rhaid iddynt gael gwared ar gynorthwywyr addysgu a staff, ac ni allaf gefnogi hyn os na fydd yr arian hwnnw gennym yn y dyfodol. Mae cynghorau'n wynebu mwy byth o doriadau cyllid yn awr oherwydd yr hyn sydd wedi digwydd dros yr wythnosau diwethaf, oherwydd cynnydd ym mhris tanwydd, pwysau chwyddiant, ac mae pobl yn sôn am fynd ar streic. Rwy'n gwybod bod Caerdydd yn wynebu bwlch cyllid o £53 miliwn, sir y Fflint £26 miliwn, mae Conwy mewn sefyllfa debyg, ac rwy'n credu bod sir Ddinbych oddeutu £10 miliwn. Mae'n bryderus iawn. Maent yn edrych ar resymoli meysydd chwarae hyd yn oed - meysydd chwarae; mae eu hangen arnom fel bod plant yn gallu chwarae'n lleol. Cau pyllau nofio, cynnal hawliau tramwy cyhoeddus a gwasanaethau cefn gwlad - roedd rheini ar y bwrdd i'w torri pan oeddwn yn aelod cabinet - mynediad at hawliau tramwy a pharciau gwledig. Felly, heb y rheini, beth a wnawn? A dyna sydd ar y bwrdd yn awr. Mae'n peri cymaint o bryder. Rydym mewn sefyllfa mor enbyd. Mae plant yn llwglyd ac yn oer. Mae'n fater o flaenoriaethu, a dyma pam - . Diolch byth ein bod wedi sicrhau prydau ysgol am ddim i bawb; mae hynny'n gymaint pwysicach. Mae ysgolion yn edrych ar ofal cofleidiol, ar ddarparu'r gofal plant hwnnw fel y gall mamau fynd allan i weithio hefyd - [ Torri ar draws.] Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, mae pethau'n llifo'n dda ar hyn o bryd - ac ar ddod yn ganolfannau clyd. Mae hynny mor bwysig. Mae addysg bellach yn darparu brecwast oherwydd bod yna bobl yn mynychu'r rheini sy'n llwglyd. Oedolion ifanc sy'n llwgu yw'r rhain - [ Torri ar draws.] Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, nid oedd hwnnw'n ymyriad priodol, felly ni wnaf ateb. Wrth siarad yn fyr ag aelod addysg o CLlLC -