English: Minister, I've listened very carefully to what you have said to Darren Millar, however I do have two other points I would like to make. The first is that Dyfed-Powys Police were aware of these allegations themselves in both 2014 and again in 2016. The reason they did not move to prosecution was they said there was little point because the monk in question had since died - he'd passed away. However, there should still have been some form of investigation, because how did they know that he was the only one? How did they know that he didn't have conspirators in terms of a cover-up? How did they know that there may not be other children put at risk? I'm not overly impressed with the actions of Dyfed-Powys Police on this matter, and I would like to ask you, as the Minister, to write to them in the strongest terms for them to actually investigate how they acted and whether or not they took the appropriate action at the time, because I think that they have been found wanting on this matter. They should have looked at it and not just said, 'Well, never mind, the chap's dead, it's an irrelevancy.' And I do not think that they should be allowed off the hook on this. The second point I'd like to talk about is the fact that I wrote last week to the abbot at Caldey Island and I asked him if he would refer himself or set up a full investigation to be carried out by another independent organisation. I appreciate that you feel that you cannot move forward because of the current police investigation, however I've thought on this further, and, as I'm sure you are aware, the Catholic Church themselves have an ongoing independent inquiry into the sexual abuse and exploitation of children in the Roman Catholic Church. I appreciate that, at the moment, they are looking at the Benedictine congregation, but I wondered whether you, in your capacity as Minister, would write to that inquiry, and ask them whether they would also look at the Cistercian Order on Caldey Island, because they do have a wider remit than just the Benedictine congregation. And I think it's very important that the Catholic Church are struggling with this issue, and that this is yet another example of where, I think, they should be looking at it to ensure that there is not systemic abuse going on within any of these organisations.
Welsh: Weinidog, rwyf wedi gwrando'n ofalus iawn ar yr hyn a ddywedasoch wrth Darren Millar, ond mae gennyf ddau bwynt arall yr hoffwn eu gwneud. Y cyntaf yw bod Heddlu Dyfed-Powys wedi dod yn ymwybodol o'r honiadau hyn yn 2014 ac eto yn 2016. Y rheswm na wnaethant erlyn oedd oherwydd eu bod yn dweud nad oedd llawer o bwynt gan fod y mynach dan sylw wedi marw. Fodd bynnag, dylai rhyw fath o ymchwiliad fod wedi cael ei gynnal, oherwydd sut y gwyddent mai ef oedd yr unig un? Sut y gwyddent nad oedd ganddo gynllwynwyr a oedd yn cuddio pethau? Sut y gwyddent na fyddai plant eraill yn cael eu rhoi mewn perygl? Nid wyf yn hapus iawn gyda chamau gweithredu Heddlu Dyfed-Powys ar y mater hwn, a buaswn yn hoffi gofyn i chi, fel Gweinidog, i ysgrifennu atynt yn y modd cryfaf posibl fel eu bod yn ymchwilio i'r modd y gwnaethant weithredu ac i weld a roddwyd y camau priodol ar waith ganddynt ar y pryd ai peidio, oherwydd credaf fod eu perfformiad yn is na'r safon ar y mater hwn. Dylent fod wedi edrych ar y mater a gwneud rhywbeth mwy na dweud, 'Wel, ta waeth, mae'r dyn wedi marw, mae'n amherthnasol.' Ac rwy'n credu y dylent gael eu dwyn i gyfrif am hyn. Yr ail bwynt yr hoffwn siarad amdano yw'r ffaith fy mod wedi ysgrifennu at yr abad ar Ynys Bŷr yr wythnos diwethaf i ofyn iddo a fuasai'n cyfeirio'i hun neu'n sefydlu ymchwiliad llawn i'w gynnal gan gorff annibynnol arall. Rwy'n derbyn eich bod yn teimlo na allwch symud ymlaen oherwydd ymchwiliad cyfredol yr heddlu, ond rwyf wedi meddwl mwy am hyn, ac fel y gwyddoch rwy'n siŵr, mae gan yr Eglwys Gatholig eu hunain ymchwiliad annibynnol ar y gweill ar gam-drin a chamfanteisio'n rhywiol ar blant yn yr Eglwys Gatholig. Rwy'n deall, ar hyn o bryd, eu bod yn edrych ar y cynulliad Benedictaidd, ond tybed a fuasech chi, yn rhinwedd eich swydd fel Gweinidog, yn ysgrifennu at yr ymchwiliad hwnnw, a gofyn iddynt a fuasent hefyd yn edrych ar yr Urdd Sistersaidd ar Ynys Bŷr, oherwydd mae ganddynt gylch gwaith ehangach na'r cynulliad Benedictaidd yn unig. Ac rwy'n credu ei bod yn bwysig iawn fod yr Eglwys Gatholig yn mynd i'r afael â'r mater hwn, a bod hon yn enghraifft arall o ble y credaf y dylent fod yn edrych arno er mwyn sicrhau nad oes cam-drin systemig yn digwydd yn unrhyw un o'r sefydliadau hyn.