English: Diolch. Thank you everybody who's spoken in this debate. Thank you to Russell George for opening this by welcoming the economic boost to the Welsh economy being delivered by the UK Government's abolition of the Severn crossing tolls, showing that Wales is open for business. And also for emphasising the need for north and mid Wales growth deals, where people and businesses in north and mid Wales not only look south to Government, but in terms of their economic and social lives, they look east for their cross-border movements, and also west to Ireland. We need to, as he said, cement north Wales as an intrinsic part of an exciting cross-border economic region linked up to the Northern Powerhouse. He said the Welsh Government must also devolve economic levers to mid Wales. Dai Lloyd supported the abolition of the Severn crossing tolls and the devolution of powers to the Welsh regions - it's very heartening to hear that - and shared his in-depth knowledge of bridge tolls across Britain. I suggest he writes more about that; I'd actually be very interested to read about that. Of course, there are no tolls on the Menai bridge, but we do need the third Menai crossing, something that Ken Skates, of course, referred to. It is nearly a decade since the Welsh Government last commissioned an independent report on options for that, which made recommendations. It's a shame we've had to wait this long for groundhog day to arrive all over again, but I hope the Minister's aspiration of having a decision to move forward by 2021 is reached for all concerned. Dai Lloyd extolled the virtues of the Swansea bay tidal lagoon, as did many others, and emphasised the need to electrify the Valleys lines and the north Wales coast line, something the Welsh Conservatives certainly strongly support. Nick Ramsay referred again to the Prime Minister's decision to scrap tolls on the Severn crossing as a game-changer, with exciting prospects for the good people and economy of Monmouthshire. He referred to the GVA figures in the south Wales Valleys, of course, part of the west Wales and Valleys sub-region, which has had the lowest value of goods and services produced per head of population, or GVA, across the 12 UK nations and regions for almost now 20 years - for 19 years; the whole period of devolution. Unfortunately, the relative gap has widened, and even the most prosperous corner of north Wales and the north-east has seen the relative figure against the UK level fall from almost 100 per cent of UK GVA to just 84 per cent. He's emphasised the need for the Welsh Government to work closely with the UK Government. It is critical that the next UK Government is seen, whatever its colour, as a positive partner with the Welsh Government and by the Welsh Government. Jayne Bryant again emphasised the importance of the Severn crossing, in this case to Newport, another wonderful place not so far from here. I regret the partisan comments that followed - I won't respond to those other than to acknowledge we are in a general election period. The UK Government, in fact, announced tolls in 1962. It is this UK Government that has announced it's going to scrap them. As she said, there are risks - or possibly costs and benefits - of attracting people from Bristol, which might have an impact on house prices, and there is a need to support local young people onto the housing ladder here and everywhere else, especially given that Wales had the largest cuts in affordable housing budgets after devolution of any UK nation. It's important you referred to another u-turn, but in my mind it's strong leaders who listen and decide; it's weak leaders who ignore the facts and shoot the messenger, sadly something we hear too often in certain other places. Neil Hamilton again welcomed Theresa May's announcement, with a few added generous comments to my party and his former party. As he said, political independence for Wales would be a disaster - as it would be, may I add, for the rest of the UK. Mark Reckless pointed out it was the Conservative Government in 1992 that legislated to scrap the tolls following the return of the bridges to the public sector and that the Conservative Government was now delivering on that. He said that this will add to a return of confidence along the M4 corridor, strengthening links between south Wales, Bristol and London. He referred to the sensitive and flexible way the UK Government was approaching regional development in Wales as encouraging, but it needs to be matched by the Welsh Government. Suzy Davies said the post-Brexit regional policy may look very different in the future, but it was right for Wales to take advantage of UK regional policy now. As she said - the wonderful phrase - big thinkers in a small country. We should welcome the commitment coming from the Prime Minister rather than go, as she said, into a bit of a sulk. Welsh Conservatives are committed to the Swansea bay tidal lagoon, as acknowledged by the Prime Minister to us, as Suzy emphasised. The last thing, as she said, the lagoon needs now is Corbynomics. The Cabinet Secretary then responded by saying the Welsh Government is determined to spread prosperity across Wales - it's just a shame that since 1998, we've remained the part of the UK with the lowest GVA. As he said, the Severn bridge tolls are a barrier, which is why Theresa May has announced she's removing them. He then made a weak and wobbly proposition that confidence is returning to south Wales thanks to the Welsh Government. In reality, most things have been going backwards since devolution - not because of devolution but because of government - but it's interesting that the improvement in jobs and employment and inward investment has happened since the Conservative Prime Minister and Conservative-led Government took office in 2010. It certainly wasn't happening beforehand. I regret he resorted to a petty personalised attack against a colleague. I'll say no more about that. He referred to the north Wales and Mersey Dee cross-party group meeting today. I also attended. I welcome his attendance. I think I was elected as a joint deputy chair of that group. There's critical work to do. The growth deals on each side of the border, the Cabinet Secretary said, must be complementary. No, Cabinet Secretary - this is a single growth deal for both sides of that border. That's why we have the Mersey Dee Alliance, that's why Warrington were represented there today but why also Gwynedd was represented there today. We wonder, in the future, perhaps if Ireland could be engaging with us as well. He referred to the Deeside corridor consultation. In fact, it's nine years, I believe, since the last scheme had to be scrapped by the Welsh Government after its proposals were - [Interruption.] Would you like to stand?
Welsh: Diolch. Diolch i bawb sydd wedi siarad yn y ddadl hon. Diolch i Russell George am agor hyn drwy groesawu'r hwb economaidd i economi Cymru sy'n cael ei gyflawni drwy fod Llywodraeth y DU yn dileu'r tollau ar bontydd Hafren, gan ddangos bod Cymru ar agor ar gyfer busnes. A hefyd am bwysleisio'r angen am fargeinion twf gogledd a chanolbarth Cymru, lle mae pobl a busnesau yng ngogledd a chanolbarth Cymru, nid yn unig yn edrych i'r de tuag at y Llywodraeth, ond o ran eu bywyd economaidd a chymdeithasol, eu bod yn edrych tua'r dwyrain o ran eu symudiadau trawsffiniol, a hefyd i'r gorllewin i Iwerddon. Fel y dywedodd, mae angen inni gadarnhau gogledd Cymru fel rhan gynhenid o ranbarth economaidd trawsffiniol cyffrous sydd wedi'i gysylltu â Phwerdy Gogledd Lloegr. Dywedodd fod yn rhaid i Lywodraeth Cymru ddatganoli ysgogiadau economaidd i ganolbarth Cymru hefyd. Roedd Dai Lloyd yn cefnogi dileu tollau pontydd Hafren a datganoli pwerau i'r rhanbarthau Cymreig - mae'n galonogol iawn clywed hynny - a rhannodd ei wybodaeth drylwyr am dollau pontydd ar draws Prydain. Rwy'n awgrymu ei fod yn ysgrifennu mwy am hynny; byddai gennyf ddiddordeb mawr mewn darllen am hynny. Wrth gwrs, nid oes unrhyw dollau ar bont Menai, ond mae angen trydedd groesfan ar draws y Fenai, rhywbeth y cyfeiriodd Ken Skates ato, wrth gwrs. Mae bron i ddegawd ers i Lywodraeth Cymru gomisiynu'r adroddiad annibynnol diwethaf a wnaeth argymhellion ar yr opsiynau ar gyfer hynny. Mae'n drueni ein bod wedi gorfod aros cyhyd i weld y diwrnod ailadroddus hwn yn cyrraedd eto fyth, ond rwy'n gobeithio y caiff dyhead y Gweinidog i gael penderfyniad ar gyfer symud ymlaen erbyn 2021 ei wireddu i bawb. Clodforodd Dai Lloyd rinweddau morlyn llanw bae Abertawe, fel y gwnaeth sawl un arall, a phwysleisiodd yr angen i drydaneiddio rheilffyrdd y Cymoedd a rheilffordd arfordir gogledd Cymru, rhywbeth y mae'r Ceidwadwyr Cymreig yn sicr yn ei gefnogi'n gryf. Cyfeiriodd Nick Ramsay unwaith eto at benderfyniad y Prif Weinidog i ddileu tollau ar bont Hafren fel rhywbeth a fydd yn newid pellgyrhaeddol, gyda rhagolygon cyffrous i bobl ac economi Sir Fynwy. Cyfeiriodd at ffigurau gwerth ychwanegol gros yng Nghymoedd de Cymru, wrth gwrs, yn rhan o is-ranbarth gorllewin Cymru a'r Cymoedd, sydd wedi bod â'r gwerth isaf y pen o'r boblogaeth o ran nwyddau a gwasanaethau a gynhyrchir, neu'r gwerth ychwanegol gros, ar draws 12 gwlad a rhanbarth y DU ers bron i 20 mlynedd bellach - ers 19 mlynedd; holl gyfnod datganoli. Yn anffodus, mae'r bwlch cymharol wedi lledu, ac mae hyd yn oed y gornel fwyaf llewyrchus o ogledd Cymru a'r gogledd-ddwyrain wedi gweld y ffigur cymharol yn erbyn lefel y DU yn gostwng o bron i 100 y cant o werth ychwanegol gros y DU i 84 y cant yn unig. Pwysleisiodd yr angen i Lywodraeth Cymru weithio'n agos gyda Llywodraeth y DU. Mae'n hanfodol fod Llywodraeth nesaf y DU yn cael ei gweld, beth bynnag fo'i lliw, fel partner cadarnhaol gyda Llywodraeth Cymru a chan Lywodraeth Cymru. Pwysleisiodd Jayne Bryant eto bwysigrwydd pont Hafren, yn yr achos hwn i Gasnewydd, lle hyfryd arall heb fod mor bell o'r fan hon. Rwy'n gresynu at y sylwadau pleidiol a ddilynodd - nid wyf am ymateb i'r rheini ar wahân i gydnabod ein bod yn wynebu etholiad cyffredinol. Llywodraeth y DU a gyhoeddodd y tollau yn 1962 mewn gwirionedd. Y Llywodraeth hon yn y DU sydd wedi cyhoeddi ei bod yn mynd i gael gwared arnynt. Fel y dywedodd, mae perygl - neu gostau a buddion o bosibl - o ddenu pobl o Fryste, a allai effeithio ar brisiau tai, ac mae angen cynorthwyo pobl ifanc lleol i fynd ar yr ysgol dai yma ac ym mhob man arall, yn enwedig o ystyried mai Cymru sydd wedi cael y toriadau mwyaf i gyllidebau tai fforddiadwy ar ôl datganoli o blith unrhyw un o wledydd y DU. Mae'n bwysig eich bod wedi cyfeirio at dro pedol, ond yn fy marn i, arweinwyr cryf sy'n gwrando ac yn penderfynu; arweinwyr gwan sy'n anwybyddu'r ffeithiau a saethu'r negesydd, rhywbeth a glywn yn rhy aml, yn anffodus, mewn rhai mannau eraill. Croesawodd Neil Hamilton gyhoeddiad Theresa May eto, gydag ychydig o sylwadau hael wedi'u hychwanegu am fy mhlaid a'i gyn-blaid. Fel y dywedodd, byddai annibyniaeth wleidyddol i Gymru yn drychineb - fel y byddai, os caf ychwanegu, i weddill y DU. Nododd Mark Reckless mai'r Llywodraeth Geidwadol yn 1992 a ddeddfodd i ddileu'r tollau ar ôl i'r pontydd ddychwelyd i'r sector cyhoeddus, a bod y Llywodraeth Geidwadol bellach yn cyflawni hynny. Dywedodd y bydd hyn yn ychwanegu at adfer hyder ar hyd coridor yr M4, cryfhau cysylltiadau rhwng de Cymru, Bryste a Llundain. Dywedodd fod agwedd sensitif a hyblyg Llywodraeth y DU tuag at ddatblygu rhanbarthol yng Nghymru yn galonogol, ond bod angen i Lywodraeth Cymru feithrin agwedd debyg. Dywedodd Suzy Davies y gallai'r polisi rhanbarthol ar ôl Brexit edrych yn wahanol iawn yn y dyfodol, ond ei bod yn iawn i Gymru fanteisio ar bolisi rhanbarthol y DU yn awr. Fel y dywedodd - yr ymadrodd hyfryd - meddylwyr mawr mewn gwlad fach. Dylem groesawu'r ymrwymiad gan y Prif Weinidog yn hytrach na phwdu, fel y dywedodd. Mae'r Ceidwadwyr Cymreig wedi ymrwymo i forlyn llanw bae Abertawe, fel y cydnabu'r Prif Weinidog wrthym, fel y pwysleisiodd Suzy. Y peth olaf sydd ei angen ar y morlyn llanw yn awr, meddai, yw Corbynomeg. Yna ymatebodd Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet drwy ddweud bod Llywodraeth Cymru yn benderfynol o ledaenu ffyniant ledled Cymru - mae'n drueni mai ni, ers 1998, yw'r rhan o'r DU sydd wedi parhau i fod â'r gwerth ychwanegol gros isaf. Dywedodd fod tollau pontydd Hafren yn rhwystr, a dyna pam y cyhoeddodd Theresa May ei bod yn eu dileu. Yna gwnaeth osodiad gwan a sigledig fod hyder yn dychwelyd i dde Cymru, diolch i Lywodraeth Cymru. Mewn gwirionedd, mae'r rhan fwyaf o bethau wedi bod yn mynd tuag at yn ôl ers datganoli - nid oherwydd datganoli ond oherwydd y llywodraeth - ond mae'n ddiddorol fod y gwelliant mewn swyddi a chyflogaeth a mewnfuddsoddi wedi digwydd ers i'r Prif Weinidog Ceidwadol a Llywodraeth dan arweiniad y Ceidwadwyr ddod i rym yn 2010. Nid oedd yn digwydd cyn hynny yn sicr. Rwy'n gresynu at y ffaith ei fod wedi ymostwng i ymosodiad personol pitw yn erbyn cyd-Aelod. Ni ddywedaf fwy am hynny. Cyfeiriodd at gyfarfod grŵp trawsbleidiol gogledd Cymru a Mersi a'r Ddyfrdwy heddiw. Roeddwn innau'n bresennol hefyd. Rwy'n croesawu'r ffaith ei fod yn bresennol. Rwy'n credu fy mod wedi fy ethol yn ddirprwy gyd-gadeirydd o'r grŵp hwnnw. Mae yna waith hanfodol i'w wneud. Rhaid i'r bargeinion twf ar bob ochr i'r ffin ategu ei gilydd, meddai Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet. Na, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet - un bargen dwf ar gyfer y ddwy ochr i'r ffin honno yw hon. Dyna pam y mae gennym Gynghrair Mersi a'r Ddyfrdwy, dyna pam y cynrychiolwyd Warrington yno heddiw ond dyna pam y cafodd Gwynedd ei chynrychioli yno heddiw hefyd. Tybed a allem ymgysylltu ag Iwerddon yn ogystal yn y dyfodol. Cyfeiriodd at yr ymgynghoriad ar goridor Glannau Dyfrdwy. Yn wir, mae naw mlynedd, rwy'n credu, ers y bu'n rhaid dileu'r cynllun diwethaf gan Lywodraeth Cymru ar ôl i'w argymhellion gael eu - [Torri ar draws.] A hoffech sefyll?