English: Alun, I'm delighted that you brought this to the Chamber today. Nothing is more powerful than personal testimony, personal experience that has inspired you to try and change something that really does need changing. Unfortunately, as you said, 97 per cent of those people who suffer a cardiac arrest aren't here to share testimony in the way that you've been able to do. I think your call for a strategy and a pathway is really well made. Personally, I'd like to see it sit alongside a new disease-specific heart condition delivery plan. Cardiology is not something that can be cut and shut with other delivery plans, and yet what you're talking about should certainly be part of this, because cardiac arrest is not the same as heart failure or a heart attack. You can be as fit as a flea, as you discovered, and you can still have this. You can't prepare for it, and that's why I'm going to be supporting these proposals. In so doing, though, I hope you won't mind, Alun, allowing me to remind you all that I introduced some very compatible legislative proposals right at the beginning of the process when you were able to do that. And one of the elements of that - because there were many that were in common with what you're asking for today - was for basic lifesaving skills to be mandatory on the curriculum. And, at the time, the Assembly was in favour of that, which is why I'm pleased you've raised in the debate today the need for Welsh Government to explain what it would do instead - something that would achieve the same results as efficiently and as cost-effectively. To be honest, I'm not sure that anything would be quite as efficient and effective in overcoming the bystander CPR problem, as two hours of training every year in schools is a pretty tiny amount of time to be spent on it. I think two hours is not cluttering up a curriculum. And what it does, of course, is introduce or create that ability to step in, just like the people who stepped in to save you. And I don't think a general availability of training will quite create that. The Members of the Youth Parliament get that and that's why it's their top ask in terms of curriculum - delivering on a promise to give young people the skills for adult life. And I suppose the question that springs from that is: why should delivery of their top ask be pretty much a postcode lottery, where Scotland and England are making sure that their children know how to step in and save a life? Denmark is an exemplar in this - mandatory curriculum training is part of why they are so great at this and why their survival rates are so high. But I want to finish, if you don't mind, Llywydd, with a big shout out to all our communities who actually put their money where their heart is. You'll know what I mean, Alun: hundreds and hundreds of people in our communities have been fundraising to put defibrillators into places where the community can benefit from them? I wouldn't want any legislative proposals to take away from the social capital, and I'm sure that's not your intention. Let our constituents be active players in solving a problem, and I'm sure that anyone watching today will be more than willing to support your legislative proposals. Thank you. Oh, I only had three minutes.
Welsh: Alun, rwy'n falch iawn eich bod wedi dod â hyn i'r Siambr heddiw. Nid oes dim yn fwy pwerus na thystiolaeth bersonol, profiad personol sydd wedi eich ysbrydoli i geisio newid rhywbeth y mae gwir angen ei newid. Yn anffodus, fel y dywedoch chi, nid yw 97 y cant o'r bobl sy'n dioddef ataliad y galon yma i rannu tystiolaeth yn y ffordd rydych chi wedi gallu ei wneud. Credaf fod eich galwad am strategaeth a llwybr wedi'i gwneud yn dda iawn. Yn bersonol, hoffwn ei weld ochr yn ochr â chynllun cyflawni newydd penodol ar gyflyrau'r galon. Nid yw cardioleg yn rhywbeth y gellir ei dorri a'i gau gyda chynlluniau cyflawni eraill, ac eto dylai'r hyn rydych yn sôn amdano fod yn rhan o hyn yn sicr, oherwydd nid yw ataliad y galon yr un fath â methiant y galon neu drawiad ar y galon. Gallwch fod mor heini â wiwer, fel y darganfuoch chi, a gallwch ddal i'w gael. Ni allwch baratoi ar ei gyfer, a dyna pam rwy'n mynd i gefnogi'r cynigion hyn. Ond wrth wneud hynny, Alun, gobeithio na fydd ots gennych ganiatáu imi eich atgoffa i gyd fy mod wedi cyflwyno cynigion deddfwriaethol tebyg iawn ar ddechrau'r broses pan oeddech yn gallu gwneud hynny. Ac un o elfennau'r cynigion hynny - oherwydd roedd llawer a oedd yn debyg i'r hyn y gofynnwch amdano heddiw - oedd y dylai sgiliau achub bywyd sylfaenol fod yn orfodol yn y cwricwlwm. Ar y pryd, roedd y Cynulliad o blaid hynny, a dyna pam rwy'n falch eich bod wedi nodi yn y ddadl heddiw yr angen i Lywodraeth Cymru egluro beth fyddai'n ei wneud yn lle hynny - rhywbeth a fyddai'n cyflawni'r un canlyniadau yr un mor effeithlon a chost-effeithiol. I fod yn onest, nid wyf yn siŵr a fyddai unrhyw beth mor effeithlon ac effeithiol i oresgyn problem gwylwyr a CPR, gan fod dwy awr o hyfforddiant bob blwyddyn mewn ysgolion yn amser byr iawn i'w dreulio arno. Ni chredaf fod dwy awr yn gorlenwi'r cwricwlwm. A'r hyn y mae'n ei wneud, wrth gwrs, yw cyflwyno neu greu'r gallu i gamu i mewn, yn union fel y bobl a gamodd i mewn i'ch achub chi. Ac nid wyf yn credu y bydd i hyfforddiant fod ar gael yn gyffredinol yn creu hynny'n llwyr. Mae'r Aelodau o'r Senedd Ieuenctid yn deall hynny a dyna pam mai dyna yw eu prif ofyniad o ran y cwricwlwm - cyflawni addewid i roi sgiliau i bobl ifanc ar gyfer bywyd fel oedolion. Ac mae'n debyg mai'r cwestiwn sy'n deillio o hynny yw: pam y dylai cyflawni eu prif ofyniad fod yn loteri cod post fwy neu lai, lle mae'r Alban a Lloegr yn sicrhau bod eu plant yn gwybod sut i gamu i mewn ac achub bywyd? Mae Denmarc yn enghraifft dda o hyn - mae hyfforddiant gorfodol yn y cwricwlwm yn rhan o'r rheswm pam y maent mor dda am wneud hyn a pham y mae eu cyfraddau goroesi mor uchel. Ond rwyf am orffen, os nad oes ots gennych, Lywydd, drwy ganmol ein holl gymunedau a roddodd eu harian lle mae eu calon. Fe fyddwch yn gwybod beth rwy'n ei olygu, Alun: mae cannoedd a'r gannoedd o bobl yn ein cymunedau wedi bod yn codi arian i roi diffibrilwyr mewn mannau lle gall y gymuned elwa arnynt. Ni fyddwn am i unrhyw gynigion deddfwriaethol leihau dim ar y cyfalaf cymdeithasol, ac rwy'n siŵr nad dyna yw eich bwriad. Gadewch i'n hetholwyr fod yn chwaraewyr gweithgar yn datrys problem, ac rwy'n siŵr y bydd unrhyw un sy'n gwylio heddiw yn fwy na pharod i gefnogi eich cynigion deddfwriaethol. Diolch. O, dim ond tair munud oedd gennyf.