English: Thank you for your statement, Cabinet Secretary, as well as your earlier written statement. Although I was not a Member of this Assembly when the Ockenden report was published, I remember the shock and outrage I felt when I learnt of what these poor people endured on the Tawel Fan ward. Listening, even last week, on the radio to families reliving their experiences and how they feel when they even have to pass the area concerned - which was more reminiscent of how people in mental ill health were treated in the eighteenth and nineteenth century, not the twenty-first. Three years later, we now have the findings of the Health and Social Care Advisory Service investigation. No-one can dispute the independence or expertise of HASCAS, with Dr Johnstone and her team carrying out the investigation and publishing the report. HASCAS found chaotic and poor governance and problems across all mental health services in north Wales. They found nine key factors that compromised patient care. However, there is a disconnect between the HASCAS findings and the earlier investigation conducted by Donna Ockenden, and it is this disconnect that has led families to reject the findings of the HASCAS report, branding it a whitewash and a cover-up. I agree with you, Cabinet Secretary, that we should avoid jumping to conclusions, but until we can fully address the concerns of the families involved in the Tawel Fan scandal, or those treated in the Ablett Unit at Ysbyty Glan Clwyd, we cannot move on from this. Cabinet Secretary, have you considered asking Donna Ockenden to work with HASCAS in order to address the concerns of the families? While I am pleased that Dr Johnstone and her team found no evidence of systemic abuse, they did find institutional failings in both the governance and care pathways at Betsi Cadwaladr. Cabinet Secretary, this is not the first report to highlight failings in clinical governance, not just in north Wales but across the NHS. Do you believe that the current governance model is fit for purpose in a modern healthcare system? I welcome the announcement that you will publish a special measures improvement framework for Betsi, and I look forward to seeing the first progress report in October. Cabinet Secretary, as Betsi are already in special measures, what recourse is open to you should they fail to make progress against the improvement framework? Finally, Cabinet Secretary, you have indicated that there are lessons for the wider NHS and that you expect NHS organisations to consider the report. With regard to social care implications, what discussions have you had with Social Care Wales, and do you expect local government to also consider the recommendations of the HASCAS report? I look forward to working with you to ensure that the events that occurred in the Ablett Unit can never happen again. Diolch yn fawr. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch i chi am eich datganiad, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, yn ogystal â'ch datganiad ysgrifenedig yn gynharach. Er nad oeddwn yn aelod o'r Cynulliad hwn pan gyhoeddwyd adroddiad Ockenden, rwy'n cofio'r sioc a'r dicter a deimlais pan ddysgais am yr hyn yr oedd y bobl hyn wedi ei ddioddef ar ward Tawel Fan. Wrth wrando, hyd yn oed yr wythnos diwethaf, ar y radio ar deuluoedd yn ail-fyw'r profiadau a chlywed sut y maen nhw'n teimlo pan mae hyd yn oed yn rhaid iddyn nhw fynd heibio'r ardal dan sylw - roedd yn debycach i sut y cai pobl ag afiechyd meddwl eu trin yn y ddeunawfed ganrif a'r bedwaredd ganrif ar bymtheg, nid yr unfed ganrif ar hugain. Dair blynedd yn ddiweddarach, mae gennym ni bellach ganfyddiadau ymchwiliad y Gwasanaeth Cynghori ar Iechyd a Gofal Cymdeithasol. Ni all unrhyw un anghytuno ag annibyniaeth neu arbenigedd HASCAS, gyda Dr Johnstone a'i thîm yn cynnal yr ymchwiliad ac yn cyhoeddi'r adroddiad. Canfu HASCAS lywodraethu anhrefnus a gwael a phroblemau â holl wasanaethau iechyd meddwl y gogledd. Canfuwyd naw ffactor allweddol a oedd yn peryglu gofal cleifion. Fodd bynnag, mae diffyg cysylltiad rhwng canfyddiadau HASCAS a'r ymchwiliad cynharach a gynhaliwyd gan Donna Ockenden, ac mae'r datgysylltiad hwn wedi achosi i deuluoedd wrthod canfyddiadau adroddiad HASCAS, a dweud ei fod yn ymgais i wyngalchu ac i gelu pethau. Rwy'n cytuno â chi, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, y dylem ni osgoi dod i gasgliadau byrbwyll, ond hyd nes y gallwn ni roi sylw llwyr i bryderon y teuluoedd sy'n rhan o sgandal Tawel Fan, neu'r rhai a gawsant eu trin yn Uned Ablett yn Ysbyty Glan Clwyd, ni allwn ni osod hyn o'r neilltu. Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, a ydych chi wedi ystyried gofyn i Donna Ockenden weithio gyda HASCAS er mwyn mynd i'r afael â phryderon y teuluoedd? Er fy mod yn falch na wnaeth Dr Johnstone a'i thîm ganfod unrhyw dystiolaeth o gam-drin systematig, fe wnaethon nhw ganfod methiannau sefydliadol yn nhrefniadau llywodraethu a gofal Betsi Cadwaladr. Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, nid dyma'r adroddiad cyntaf i dynnu sylw at fethiannau mewn llywodraethu clinigol, nid yn unig yn y gogledd ond ledled y GIG. A ydych chi'n credu bod y model llywodraethu presennol yn addas at y diben mewn system gofal iechyd modern? Rwy'n croesawu'r cyhoeddiad y byddwch yn cyhoeddi fframwaith gwella mesurau arbennig ar gyfer Bwrdd Iechyd Betsi Cadwaladr, ac rwy'n edrych ymlaen at weld yr adroddiad cynnydd cyntaf ym mis Hydref. Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, oherwydd bod Bwrdd Iechyd Betsi Cadwaladr eisoes mewn mesurau arbennig, pa ddewisiadau sydd ar gael i chi os byddant yn methu â gwneud cynnydd yn unol â'r fframwaith gwella? Yn olaf, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, rydych chi wedi nodi bod gwersi ar gyfer y GIG ehangach a'ch bod yn disgwyl i sefydliadau'r GIG ystyried yr adroddiad. O ran y goblygiadau gofal cymdeithasol, pa drafodaethau ydych chi wedi'u cael gyda Gofal Cymdeithasol Cymru, ac a ydych chi'n disgwyl i lywodraeth leol hefyd ystyried argymhellion adroddiad HASCAS? Edrychaf ymlaen at weithio gyda chi i sicrhau na all yr hyn a ddigwyddodd yn Uned Ablett fyth ddigwydd eto. Diolch yn fawr.