English: It is. I mean, from the UK Government perspective, this is seen as a minor issue. From our perspective it's a very major issue. As I say, there's no - . An agreement on their part doesn't cost them anything at all; there's no penalty. But there's an enormous penalty as far as Wales is concerned. Part of the difficulty here lies in the fact that there's a difficulty on the part of the UK Government at the moment in understanding how important this issue is to us and Scotland. I don't think they get it, but, certainly, we get it, and the people of Wales get it. That is the fundamental principle that powers should come to rest in those places that are appropriate when it comes to devolved areas: in the devolved institutions. From our perspective, it cannot be right that UK Ministers can interfere with or change Welsh law passed by this Assembly, potentially, without reference to this Assembly, nor, indeed, to the UK Parliament. I well remember some of the arguments that were being rehearsed during the referendum to bring powers back to - they said 'parliament' as if it was one: 'to Parliament'. Then, of course, the first thing that happens as part of the repeal Bill is that Parliament doesn't get those powers; it just sits in the hands of the Government. There are issues for us as a Welsh Government, because as powers return to us, it's hugely important that those powers return, as far as they possibly can do, to this institution, and not to Government, as the elected institution. The Government's powers necessarily need to be as limited as they can be, given the fact that the institution here, of course, is elected. But the opposite approach has been taken by the UK Government, where it went to court to fight on this point. But the powers should rest with the executive and not with the legislature. That, surely, must be wrong in principle as well. One of the themes that has arisen today from so many speakers is that there were many better ways of doing this than the way that has been produced currently by the UK Government. It's fair to say, I think, that there are many on the Conservative benches who recognise that. I can understand that there's a time and a place for saying things; I understand that. This is an issue that can be resolved, but we need the UK Government to get engaged, and that does mean the Prime Minister, it does mean those people who are taking these decisions. The Welsh Office is not the decision taker in this regard; the Welsh Office, effectively, is - I'm saying it myself; it was the Welsh Office 20 years ago - The Wales Office itself is a kind of advocate in that sense. If this was in the hands of the Wales Office, then perhaps we could have better engagement, but it isn't. This is a fundamental junction in the journey of devolution. Either we move to a situation where powers are kept by the UK Government in areas that we currently control, or we move to a situation where powers come to rest where they should and we have a better structure, not just for Wales, but the whole of the UK, that represents the partnership of nations that exists within the UK.
Welsh: Ydy. Hynny yw, o safbwynt Llywodraeth y DU, mater bach yw hwn. O'n safbwynt ni mae'n fater pwysig iawn. Fel y dywedais, nid oes - . Nid yw cytundeb ar eu rhan nhw yn costio dim iddyn nhw o gwbl; nid oes unrhyw bris i'w dalu ganddyn nhw. Ond mae pris enfawr i Gymru. Rhan o'r anhawster yma yw'r ffaith bod Llywodraeth y DU ar hyn o bryd yn ei chael yn anodd deall pa mor bwysig yw'r broblem hon i ni a'r Alban. Nid wyf i'n credu eu bod nhw'n deall, ond, yn sicr, rydym ni'n deall, ac mae pobl Cymru yn deall. Dyna'r egwyddor sylfaenol, sef y dylai pwerau ddod i'r mannau hynny sy'n briodol o ran meysydd datganoledig: yn y sefydliadau datganoledig. O'n safbwynt ni, ni all fod yn iawn i Weinidogion y DU allu ymyrryd â chyfraith Cymru a basiwyd gan y Cynulliad hwn, neu ei newid, o bosibl, heb gyfeirio at y Cynulliad hwn, nac, yn wir, at Senedd y DU. Rwy'n cofio'n dda rai o'r dadleuon a oedd yn cael eu hymarfer yn ystod y refferendwm i ddod â phwerau yn ôl i'r - 'senedd' meddan nhw, fel pe bai'n un: 'i'r Senedd'. Yna, wrth gwrs, y peth cyntaf sy'n digwydd yn rhan o'r Bil diddymu yw nad yw'r Senedd yn cael y pwerau hynny; maen nhw'n aros yn nwylo'r Llywodraeth. Mae yna faterion i ni fel Llywodraeth Cymru, oherwydd wrth i bwerau ddychwelyd atom ni, mae'n hynod bwysig bod y pwerau hynny yn dychwelyd, i'r graddau y mae'n bosibl gwneud hynny, i'r sefydliad hwn, ac nid i'r Llywodraeth, fel y sefydliad etholedig. O reidrwydd, mae angen i bwerau'r Llywodraeth fod mor gyfyngedig â phosibl, o ystyried y ffaith bod y sefydliad hwn, wrth gwrs, wedi ei ethol. Ond mae Llywodraeth y DU wedi mynd yn groes i hyn, drwy fynd i'r llys i ymladd y pwynt hwn. Ond dylai'r pwerau fod yn nwylo'r weithrediaeth, nid yn nwylo'r ddeddfwrfa. Mae'n rhaid bod hynny yn anghywir mewn egwyddor. Un o'r themâu sydd wedi codi heddiw gan gynifer o siaradwyr yw bod llawer o ffyrdd gwell o wneud hyn na'r ffordd y mae Llywodraeth y DU wedi'i chymryd ar hyn o bryd. Mae'n deg dweud, rwy'n credu, bod llawer ar feinciau y Ceidwadwyr sy'n cydnabod hynny. Gallaf ddeall bod amser a lle ar gyfer dweud pob peth; rwy'n deall hynny. Mae hwn yn fater y gellir ei ddatrys, ond mae angen i Lywodraeth y DU ymgysylltu, ac mae hynny yn cynnwys Prif Weinidog y DU, mae'n cynnwys y bobl hynny sy'n gwneud y penderfyniadau hyn. Nid y Swyddfa Gymreig sy'n penderfynu ar hyn; y Swyddfa Gymreig, i bob pwrpas, yw - rwy'n dweud hyn fy hun; y Swyddfa Gymreig 20 mlynedd yn ôl - Mae'r Swyddfa Gymreig ei hun yn fath o eiriolwr yn yr ystyr hwnnw. Pe bai hyn yn nwylo'r Swyddfa Gymreig, efallai y gallai fod gwell ymgysylltiad, ond nid dyna'r sefyllfa. Mae hwn yn gyffordd sylfaenol ar daith datganoli. Rydym naill ai yn symud tuag at sefyllfa lle mae Llywodraeth y DU yn cadw pwerau mewn meysydd yr ydym yn eu rheoli ar hyn o bryd, neu rydym yn symud tuag at sefyllfa lle mae pwerau'n dod i'r man priodol ac mae gennym well strwythur, nid yn unig i Gymru, ond i'r DU gyfan, sy'n cynrychioli partneriaeth y cenhedloedd sy'n bodoli yn y DU.