English: I recognise the challenge that you put and it's part of our informed healthcare digital plan for the future. We expect more people to be able to routinely use remote access and remote consultation with the healthcare profession, in both primary care and also in secondary care. I certainly wouldn't want to give the impression that none of this had taken place. Some of that can be done by telephone now and some of it can be done by video call as well. For example, when I was in Ysbyty Gwynedd on Monday, I had a very interesting presentation from the Cartref project, which is the future hospital project sponsored by the Royal College of Physicians. They were able to show me an active clinic where someone was actually based in the hospital, and they had people who were attending a clinic in a more remote hospital for people who didn't have access in their own homes to IT facilities, and they were having their consultation remotely. That was a regular feature and a regular part of it. And actually, the individual citizens using the service in that way were quite happy to do so because they recognised it saved them a long and difficult journey to do so. So, I recognise the point you make and, in particular, as we reform out-patient services across the NHS in Wales, when you think not just about people who don't need to use out-patients at all, where the follow-ups aren't necessary, but those people who do need an out-patients follow-up in particular, what do they need to do and where can they be seen? Certainly, in eye-care, for example, we've already seen significant improvements in actually seeing people in different parts of our healthcare system by transferring images to make sure that the person doesn't need to physically arrive. And actually, it is not just a significant use of time, but it isn't always a good use of time either for the individual citizen or, sometimes, for the clinician to move around doing it from a remote clinic. So, there are significant opportunities for gain and a much better use of everyone's resource.
Welsh: Rwy'n cydnabod yr her yr ydych yn ei gosod ac mae'n rhan o'n cynllun gofal iechyd digidol ar sail gwybodaeth ar gyfer y dyfodol. Rydym yn disgwyl i fwy o bobl allu defnyddio mynediad o bell ac ymgynghori o bell gyda'r proffesiwn gofal iechyd fel mater o drefn, mewn gofal sylfaenol a hefyd mewn gofal eilaidd. Yn sicr ni fyddwn am roi'r argraff nad oes dim o hyn wedi digwydd. Gellir gwneud peth ohono dros y ffôn yn awr a gellir gwneud rhywfaint ohono drwy alwad fideo yn ogystal. Er enghraifft, pan oeddwn yn Ysbyty Gwynedd ddydd Llun, cefais gyflwyniad diddorol iawn gan y prosiect Cartref, sef prosiect ysbyty'r dyfodol a noddir gan Goleg Brenhinol y Meddygon. Roeddent yn gallu dangos clinig gweithredol i mi lle roedd rhywun wedi'i leoli yn yr ysbyty mewn gwirionedd, ac roedd ganddynt bobl a oedd yn mynychu clinig mewn ysbyty mwy anghysbell i bobl nad oedd ganddynt fynediad yn eu cartrefi eu hunain at gyfleusterau TG, ac roeddent yn cael ymgynghoriad o bell. Roedd honno'n nodwedd reolaidd ac yn rhan reolaidd ohono. Ac mewn gwirionedd, roedd y dinasyddion unigol a oedd yn defnyddio'r gwasanaeth yn y ffordd honno yn ddigon hapus i wneud hynny am eu bod yn cydnabod ei fod yn arbed taith hir ac anodd iddynt. Felly, rwy'n cydnabod y pwynt a wnewch ac yn benodol, wrth i ni ddiwygio gwasanaethau cleifion allanol ar draws y GIG yng Nghymru, pan feddyliwch nid yn unig am bobl nad oes angen iddynt ddefnyddio gwasanaethau cleifion allanol o gwbl, lle nad oes angen ymgyngoriadau dilynol, ond y bobl sydd angen ymgynghoriad dilynol ar gyfer cleifion allanol dilynol yn benodol, beth sydd angen iddynt ei wneud a ble y gallant gael eu gweld? Yn sicr, ym maes gofal llygaid, er enghraifft, rydym eisoes wedi gweld gwelliannau sylweddol o ran gweld pobl mewn gwahanol rannau o'n system gofal iechyd drwy drosglwyddo delweddau i wneud yn siŵr nad oes angen i'r person ddod yno'n gorfforol. Ac mewn gwirionedd, nid yn unig y mae'n ddefnydd sylweddol o amser, ond nid yw bob amser yn ddefnydd da o amser ychwaith i'r dinesydd unigol nac i'r clinigydd, weithiau, i fod yn symud o gwmpas a'i wneud o glinig o bell. Felly, mae yna gyfleoedd sylweddol ar gyfer elwa a llawer gwell defnydd o adnoddau pawb.