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English: Can I thank Russell George for his questions? I have every confidence in the commission looking at this important subject matter, and developing not just the proposals that are put forward potentially into a combination, a package, of interventions, but also in looking at potential new innovations and interventions that were not considered back in 2010 to 2014, when the black route emerged as the favoured option. There were, of course, more than 20 alternatives recommended to the planning inspector, but, in addition to that, the Welsh Government had considered 200 or so solutions back in 2010 to 2014. We're in the process of providing technical briefings to the chair of the commission. We're also in the process of identifying and appointing additional commission members. They'll have support from Welsh Government in scrutinising all of the traffic modelling, all of the data that exists, and I do have confidence in them reporting back in six months with strong recommendations that this Government will be able to take forward. I recognise that the figure attached to the development cost of the proposed black route is significant, but it does represent something in the order of just 6 per cent of the overall project cost that was estimated, and that, as I've said in this Chamber, compares very favourably to other projects. You only need to look at development costs of projects such as HS2 to appreciate that you cannot deliver a major infrastructure project in the western world without incurring significant development costs.
Welsh: A gaf fi ddiolch i Russell George am ei gwestiynau? Mae gennyf bob ffydd yn y comisiwn sy'n edrych ar y pwnc pwysig hwn ac sy'n datblygu nid yn unig y cynigion a gyflwynir yn gyfuniad, yn becyn, o ymyriadau o bosibl, ond sydd hefyd yn edrych ar ddatblygiadau ac ymyriadau newydd posibl na chawsant eu hystyried yn ôl yn 2010 i 2014, pan ddaeth y llwybr du i'r amlwg fel yr opsiwn a ffafriwyd. Wrth gwrs, roedd mwy nag 20 o ddewisiadau amgen wedi'u hargymell i'r arolygydd cynllunio, ond yn ogystal â hynny, roedd Llywodraeth Cymru wedi ystyried 200 neu fwy o atebion yn ôl yn 2010 i 2014. Rydym wrthi'n darparu briffiau technegol i gadeirydd y comisiwn. Rydym hefyd yn y broses o nodi a phenodi aelodau ychwanegol i'r comisiwn. Byddant yn cael cefnogaeth gan Lywodraeth Cymru i graffu ar yr holl fodelu traffig, yr holl ddata sy'n bodoli, ac mae gennyf ffydd y byddant yn adrodd yn ôl mewn chwe mis gydag argymhellion cryf y bydd y Llywodraeth hon yn gallu bwrw ymlaen â hwy. Rwy'n cydnabod bod y ffigur sydd ynghlwm wrth gost ddatblygu'r llwybr du arfaethedig yn un sylweddol, ond mae oddeutu 6 y cant yn unig o holl gost amcangyfrifedig y prosiect, ac mae hynny, fel y dywedais yn y Siambr hon, yn cymharu'n ffafriol iawn â phrosiectau eraill. Nid oes ond angen ichi edrych ar gostau datblygu prosiectau fel HS2 i ddeall na allwch gyflawni prosiect seilwaith mawr yn y byd gorllewinol heb wynebu costau datblygu sylweddol.
English: Well, you mentioned that the bar has been raised and you mentioned the climate emergency that the Welsh Government has declared in the meantime. That does, of course, bring me back to my question again about the need for changes in legislation. I appreciate the answer that you have given, but it's difficult to understand how a change in those circumstances cannot affect future schemes, and I appreciate the answers you've given. Now, section 6 of the report of the public inquiry notes that the M4 is the most strategically important road in Wales and is the primary route in and out of the country for the movement of goods, and that capacity constraints are currently imposing costs on economic activity. Now, the inspector also agreed with the Welsh Government's own economic appraisal of the scheme, showing that it would provide good value for money, which shows a cost benefit ratio of 2:1. Now, the economic impact of not proceeding has also been estimated as being £134 million a year to Cardiff and £44 million a year to Newport. Incidentally, the same cost as the public inquiry. Now, given, of course, the uncertainty by recent announcements at Tata Steel and Ford, amongst others, do you not agree with the inspector that the economic impact of further delays for a relief road will strangle the Welsh economy? And, finally, if the First Minister was the decision maker, as he says he was, not you, nor this Assembly, what input did you have into that final decision?
Welsh: Wel, fe sonioch chi fod y bar wedi'i godi ac fe sonioch chi am yr argyfwng hinsawdd a ddatganwyd gan Lywodraeth Cymru yn y cyfamser. Daw hynny â mi yn ôl at fy nghwestiwn eto wrth gwrs ynglŷn â'r angen am newidiadau i'r ddeddfwriaeth. Rwy'n derbyn yr ateb a roesoch, ond mae'n anodd deall sut na all newid yn yr amgylchiadau hynny effeithio ar gynlluniau yn y dyfodol, ac rwy'n gwerthfawrogi'r atebion a roesoch. Nawr, mae adran 6 o adroddiad yr ymchwiliad cyhoeddus yn nodi mai'r M4 yw'r ffordd fwyaf strategol bwysig yng Nghymru a'r prif lwybr i mewn ac allan o'r wlad ar gyfer symud nwyddau, a bod cyfyngiadau ar gapasiti ar hyn o bryd yn creu costau i weithgarwch economaidd. Nawr, cytunai'r arolygydd hefyd â gwerthusiad economaidd Llywodraeth Cymru ei hun o'r cynllun, gan ddangos y byddai'n darparu gwerth da am arian, sy'n dangos cymhareb cost a budd o 2:1. Nawr, amcangyfrifwyd bod yr effaith ar yr economi o beidio â bwrw ymlaen yn £134 miliwn y flwyddyn i Gaerdydd a £44 miliwn y flwyddyn i Gasnewydd. Yr un gost â'r ymchwiliad cyhoeddus fel mae'n digwydd. Nawr, o gofio'r ansicrwydd wrth gwrs yn sgil cyhoeddiadau diweddar Tata Steel a Ford ymysg eraill, onid ydych yn cytuno â'r arolygydd y bydd effaith economaidd oedi pellach cyn cael ffordd liniaru yn llesteirio economi Cymru? Ac yn olaf, os mai'r Prif Weinidog oedd yn penderfynu, fel y mae'n dweud, yn hytrach na chi na'r Cynulliad hwn, pa fewnbwn a oedd gennych yn y penderfyniad terfynol hwnnw?
English: The decision was just for the First Minister, and as the promoter of the scheme I could take no part in that. As the First Minister has said, the issue of affordability of major infrastructure projects was discussed at Cabinet, and that helped to inform the First Minister's decision, but insofar as that decision actually being taken, that was something specifically and solely for the First Minister. I think Russell George makes a very valuable point that doing nothing would have a major impact - a pretty devastating impact on the south Wales economy, and that's why we have to ensure that the recommendations that the commission comes forward with are implemented at speed with sufficient resource, and, in turn, that's why we said that we will utilise part of the money that would have been attributed to the M4 relief road, that original envelope, for, first and foremost, interventions in and around Newport, in order to reduce congestion to an acceptable level.
Welsh: Penderfyniad i'r Prif Weinidog yn unig oedd hwn, ac fel hyrwyddwr y cynllun ni allwn gymryd unrhyw ran yn hynny. Fel y dywedodd y Prif Weinidog, trafodwyd fforddiadwyedd prosiectau seilwaith mawr yn y Cabinet, ac roedd hynny'n cynorthwyo i lywio penderfyniad y Prif Weinidog, ond o ran gwneud y penderfyniad, y Prif Weinidog yn unig ac yn benodol oedd yn gyfrifol am ei wneud. Credaf fod Russell George yn gwneud pwynt gwerthfawr iawn y byddai gwneud dim yn cael effaith fawr - effaith go ddinistriol ar economi de Cymru, a dyna pam y mae'n rhaid inni sicrhau bod yr argymhellion y bydd y comisiwn yn eu cyflwyno yn cael eu gweithredu'n gyflym a chyda digon o adnoddau, ac yn ei dro, dyna pam y dywedasom y byddwn yn defnyddio rhan o'r arian a fyddai wedi'i neilltuo ar gyfer ffordd liniaru M4, yr amlen wreiddiol honno, ar gyfer ymyriadau yng Nghasnewydd a'r cyffiniau yn gyntaf oll, er mwyn lleihau tagfeydd i lefel dderbyniol.
English: Diolch, Llywydd. Can I return to the theme of rail transport, Minister? Since the announcement of the new rail franchise, there has been a great deal of discussion about the announcements to the schedules and stock of the core Valleys lines, and, indeed, you've just given us some very welcome news about the proposed announcements to the Ebbw Vale line. But could the Minister give us some indication of any such announcements to the rail services serving Pontypool and Cwmbran?
Welsh: Diolch, Lywydd. A gaf fi ddychwelyd at thema trafnidiaeth rheilffyrdd, Weinidog? Ers cyhoeddi'r fasnachfraint reilffyrdd newydd, mae llawer o drafod wedi bod ar y cyhoeddiadau i amserlenni a stoc rheilffyrdd craidd y Cymoedd, ac yn wir, rydych newydd roi newyddion da iawn inni am y cyhoeddiadau arfaethedig i reilffordd Glynebwy. Ond a allai'r Gweinidog roi rhyw syniad inni am unrhyw gyhoeddiadau o'r fath i'r gwasanaethau rheilffordd sy'n gwasanaethu Pont-y-pŵl a Chwmbrân?
English: I think it might be beneficial if I was to update all Members on all services across Wales and the acquisition of additional rolling stock in the delivery of new rolling stock, rather than specifying certain services and certain lines, but I'd very gladly do that.
Welsh: Credaf y byddai'n fuddiol pe bawn yn rhoi'r wybodaeth ddiweddaraf i'r holl Aelodau am bob gwasanaeth ledled Cymru ac am gaffael cerbydau ychwanegol i ddarparu cerbydau newydd, yn hytrach na nodi rhai gwasanaethau a rhai rheilffyrdd, ond buaswn yn falch iawn o wneud hynny.
English: I thank you, Minister, for that, but, obviously, it is of concern to us in south-east Wales. This is a prime railway line that leads into Cardiff, as you know, and into Newport. So, can you give us some idea about the proposed announcements to the rolling stock on that line? After all, the metro gives South Wales East very little in the way of structural commitment. So, let's lump that into the structural commitment with regard to South Wales East. Could you give us some - ?
Welsh: Diolch ichi, Weinidog, ond yn amlwg, mae'n peri pryder inni yn ne-ddwyrain Cymru. Dyma brif reilffordd sy'n arwain i mewn i Gaerdydd, fel y gwyddoch, ac i mewn i Gasnewydd. Felly, a allwch roi rhyw syniad inni ynglŷn â'r cyhoeddiadau arfaethedig i'r cerbydau ar y rheilffordd honno? Wedi'r cyfan, nid yw'r metro'n rhoi llawer iawn o ymrwymiad strwythurol i Ddwyrain De Cymru. Felly, gadewch inni gynnwys hynny hefyd yn yr ymrwymiad strwythurol ar gyfer Dwyrain De Cymru. A allech roi - ?
English: Well, I can assure the Member that all trains on the network, including those in the metro area, will be replaced, and that there are new trains, many of which will be built in Wales, that will be up to today's modern standards in terms of disabled access. We're also determined, where possible, to increase capacity on railway lines right now, and that's why we've been able to introduce additional rolling stock onto the core Valleys lines in recent months. We're also looking at how we can improve capacity elsewhere across Wales. So, I can assure the Member that we are doing everything we can to identify where rolling stock can be introduced, albeit on a temporary basis, to alleviate congestion whilst those brand-new trains are being constructed.
Welsh: Wel, gallaf sicrhau'r Aelod y bydd yr holl drenau ar y rhwydwaith, gan gynnwys y rhai yn ardal y metro, yn cael eu newid, a bod yna drenau newydd, gyda llawer ohonynt yn cael eu hadeiladu yng Nghymru, a fydd yn cyrraedd safonau modern heddiw o ran mynediad ar gyfer pobl anabl. Rydym hefyd yn benderfynol, lle bo modd, o gynyddu capasiti ar reilffyrdd ar hyn o bryd, a dyna pam ein bod wedi gallu cyflwyno rhagor o gerbydau ar reilffyrdd craidd y Cymoedd dros y misoedd diwethaf. Rydym hefyd yn edrych ar sut y gallwn wella capasiti mewn mannau eraill ledled Cymru. Felly, gallaf sicrhau'r Aelod ein bod yn gwneud popeth yn ein gallu i nodi lle gellir cyflwyno cerbydau, er mai ar sail dros dro y gwnawn hynny, er mwyn lliniaru tagfeydd tra bydd y trenau newydd sbon hynny'n cael eu hadeiladu.
English: Yes. Last month, I published our updated national transport finance plan, and that sets out our priorities over the next two years. As these projects are dependent on funding being available and, where necessary, obtaining statutory consents, the planned programme of improvements will be kept under constant review.
Welsh: Gwnaf. Y mis diwethaf, cyhoeddais ein cynllun cyllid trafnidiaeth cenedlaethol wedi'i ddiweddaru, ac mae hwnnw'n nodi ein blaenoriaethau dros y ddwy flynedd nesaf. Gan fod y prosiectau hyn yn ddibynnol ar fod cyllid ar gael a lle bo angen, ar gael caniatadau statudol, bydd y rhaglen arfaethedig o welliannau'n cael ei hadolygu'n gyson.
English: Thank you, Minister, for that. We now know, obviously, that one of the commitments that was in your manifesto, the M4 relief road, will not proceed, which is to much regret, I have to say, and real anger over the weekend. I appreciate your deputy is from a sedentary position heckling; if he wants to take the question, I'll happily direct the question to him. But it'd be better if you actually listened, Deputy Minister; you might learn something. You might learn something about keeping commitments.
Welsh: Diolch, Weinidog. Gwyddom yn awr, yn amlwg, na fydd un o'r ymrwymiadau a oedd yn eich maniffesto, ffordd liniaru'r M4, yn mynd rhagddo, sy'n destun gofid mawr, mae'n rhaid imi ddweud, a dicter gwirioneddol dros y penwythnos. Rwy'n gweld bod eich dirprwy yn heclo o'i sedd; os yw am ateb y cwestiwn, rwy'n hapus i ofyn y cwestiwn iddo ef. Ond byddai'n well pe baech yn gwrando, Ddirprwy Weinidog; efallai y dysgwch rywbeth. Efallai y dysgwch rywbeth am gadw ymrwymiadau.
English: Carry on with the question and no heckling from Ministers, Deputy Minister.
Welsh: Parhewch â'r cwestiwn a dim heclo gan Weinidogion, Ddirprwy Weinidog.
English: It is unfortunate that manifesto commitment was broken, but what you have done, Minister, is obviously commit that there will be improvements put in place to make some short-term gains. A lot of people have been anxious why these short-term gains weren't achieved in the shorter period of time when the inquiry was meeting, for example, or when the Government was deliberating over this matter, when a considerable amount of time was lost, I would suggest. What assurance can you give to people who are disappointed that this decision hasn't been taken in a positive way that these short-term gains will actually alleviate the congestion around Newport, which, as we know, is the entry and exit point for two thirds of the goods in and out of Wales that are so important to our economy?
Welsh: Mae'n anffodus fod yr ymrwymiad yn y maniffesto wedi'i dorri, ond yr hyn a wnaethoch, Weinidog, yw ymrwymo y bydd gwelliannau'n cael eu rhoi ar waith i sicrhau rhai manteision tymor byr. Mae llawer o bobl wedi bod yn bryderus pam na chafodd y manteision tymor byr hyn eu cyflawni yn y cyfnod byrrach o amser pan oedd yr ymchwiliad yn cyfarfod, er enghraifft, neu pan oedd y Llywodraeth yn ystyried y mater hwn, pan gollwyd cryn dipyn o amser, buaswn yn awgrymu. Pa sicrwydd y gallwch ei roi i bobl sy'n siomedig nad yw'r penderfyniad hwn wedi cael ei wneud mewn ffordd gadarnhaol y bydd y manteision tymor byr hyn yn lliniaru'r tagfeydd o amgylch Casnewydd, sef y man cyrraedd a gadael ar gyfer dwy ran o dair o'r nwyddau i mewn ac allan o Gymru sydd mor bwysig i'n heconomi fel y gwyddom?
English: It's not unusual for commitments made by parties and governments to change over time, and often they are changed as a consequence of an evaluation of value for money for those interventions that are promised. The electrification - I don't want to be political, but I must say that the question about the electrification of the south Wales line and the cancellation of that programme was put down to the value for money for that particular project, and the argument made by the Department for Transport that, actually, new technology could offer the same improvements and the same time savings as overhead electrification. So, it's not unusual for manifesto pledges to change over time as new technology and as fuller consideration of value for money is made. In terms of the M4 around Newport, our proposal was the black route - that was what we were pursuing and promoting. However, now that the decision has been made not to proceed with that particular solution, we are examining all short-term measures that are available to alleviate congestion. I'm pleased that we are able to introduce additional patrol services and breakdown recovery services. These will not come without cost; these are expensive services, but they are tried and tested. They were deployed first on the A55 as part of the A55 resilience programme, and they are proven to work. That's why I was able to say last week, when the decision was made by the First Minister, that we would be able to deploy that particular solution with immediate effect.
Welsh: Nid yw'n anarferol i ymrwymiadau a wnaed gan bleidiau a llywodraethau newid dros amser, ac yn aml cânt eu newid o ganlyniad i werthusiad o werth am arian ar gyfer yr ymyriadau a addawyd. Y trydaneiddio - nid wyf am fod yn wleidyddol, ond rhaid imi ddweud bod y cwestiwn ynghylch trydaneiddio rheilffordd de Cymru a chanslo'r rhaglen honno yn seiliedig ar werth am arian ar gyfer y prosiect arbennig hwnnw, a'r ddadl a gyflwynwyd gan yr Adran Drafnidiaeth y gallai technoleg newydd gynnig yr un gwelliannau a'r un arbedion amser â thrydaneiddio llinellau uwchben. Felly, nid yw'n anarferol i addewidion maniffesto newid dros amser wrth i dechnoleg newydd gael ei llunio, ac wrth ystyried gwerth am arian yn llawnach. O ran y M4 o amgylch Casnewydd, ein cynnig oedd y llwybr du - dyna'r llwybr yr aethom ar ei drywydd a'i hyrwyddo. Fodd bynnag, gan fod y penderfyniad wedi'i wneud bellach i beidio â bwrw ymlaen â'r ateb penodol hwnnw, rydym yn archwilio'r holl fesurau tymor byr sydd ar gael i liniaru tagfeydd. Rwy'n falch ein bod yn gallu cyflwyno gwasanaethau patrolio ychwanegol a gwasanaethau adfer cerbydau sydd wedi torri. Bydd y rhain yn costio; mae'r rhain yn wasanaethau drud, ond maent wedi'u profi. Cawsant eu defnyddio yn gyntaf ar yr A55 fel rhan o raglen gydnerthedd yr A55, a phrofwyd eu bod yn gweithio. Dyna pam y gallais ddweud yr wythnos diwethaf, pan wnaethpwyd y penderfyniad gan y Prif Weinidog, y byddem yn gallu defnyddio'r ateb penodol hwnnw ar unwaith.
English: In terms of transport infrastructure, one issue that's important in my constituency at the moment is that the Welsh Government should be doing as much as it can to extend the rail system. Can you give me an assurance that you will support me in my bid to Network Rail to invest in putting in place the railway bridge in Glanhwfa Road, Llangefni after it was struck by a lorry last year?
Welsh: O ran isadeiledd trafnidiaeth, un mater sy'n bwysig yn fy etholaeth i ar hyn o bryd ydy bod Llywodraeth Cymru yn mynd i'r eithaf ar yr hyn y gellir ei wneud i ymestyn y system rheilffordd. A allwch chi roi sicrwydd i fi y byddwch chi'n fy nghefnogi i yn fy nghais ar Network Rail i fuddsoddi mewn ailosod pont rheilffordd Glanhwfa yn Llangefni ar ôl iddi gael ei tharo gan lori'r llynedd?
English: Yes, of course. Any network improvements, any improvements to rail infrastructure that can be made in Wales will have this Welsh Government's support, and I'd support the Member's endeavours in this regard. It does concern me how little investment has been made in the Wales route network and in our stations and in the services that have operated in Wales. But this is something that we're determined to see resolved; that's why we've made a very powerful submission to the Williams review and why I hope that Keith Williams will be making the case for devolution of responsibility for infrastructure, and for fair funding over it, so that we directly can intervene in those sorts of problems that the Member for Ynys Môn has identified today.
Welsh: Wrth gwrs. Caiff unrhyw welliannau i'r rhwydwaith, unrhyw welliannau i seilwaith rheilffyrdd y gellir eu gwneud yng Nghymru, gefnogaeth Llywodraeth Cymru, a buaswn yn cefnogi ymdrechion yr Aelod yn hyn o beth. Mae'n peri pryder i mi cyn lleied o fuddsoddiad a wnaethpwyd yn rhwydwaith llwybrau Cymru ac yn ein gorsafoedd ac yn y gwasanaethau sydd wedi bod ar waith yng Nghymru. Ond mae hyn yn rhywbeth rydym yn benderfynol o'i weld yn cael ei ddatrys; dyna pam y gwnaethom gyflwyniad grymus iawn i adolygiad Williams a pham y gobeithiaf y bydd Keith Williams yn dadlau'r achos dros ddatganoli'r cyfrifoldeb dros seilwaith, ac am ariannu teg ar ei gyfer, fel y gallwn ymyrryd yn uniongyrchol yn y mathau o broblemau y mae'r Aelod dros Ynys Môn wedi'u nodi heddiw.
English: Yes. Can I thank the Member for his question? Transport for Wales is reviewing how bus services could be delivered in the future to ensure that urban and rural communities across Wales benefit from a modern, integrated public transport service. This work will support proposals being taken as a result of the 'Improving public transport' White Paper that has recently been consulted on.
Welsh: Gwnaf. A gaf fi ddiolch i'r Aelod am ei gwestiwn? Mae Trafnidiaeth Cymru yn adolygu sut y gellid darparu gwasanaethau bws yn y dyfodol er mwyn sicrhau bod cymunedau trefol a gwledig ledled Cymru yn cael budd o wasanaeth trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus integredig a modern. Bydd y gwaith hwn yn cefnogi'r argymhellion a wneir o ganlyniad i'r Papur Gwyn 'Gwella trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus' yr ymgynghorwyd yn ei gylch yn ddiweddar.
English: Thank you for those remarks just then, I thought they were very useful, and I'm also looking forward to the White Paper. In the meantime though, in 2016 you announced a five-point plan to support bus routes, offering all bus companies in Wales assistance through Business Wales and Finance Wales, and, at the same time, you called upon - as you've done again today - local authorities to make every effort to protect the funding for bus services. You may be aware that Bridgend county borough councillors have recently called in a decision by their cabinet to stop subsidising public transport, full stop. Bearing in mind you've got additional moneys, they must have had some of that, and you were expecting it to be used additionally to their own bus subsidies, it doesn't sound like even that's getting to the bus companies in this case. I wonder if you could tell me whether you know whether bus operators in the Bridgend area knew about the offer of Business Wales and Finance Wales help and whether, in fact, the local authority knew about that as well, because they could have encouraged operators to take up that offer, thereby avoiding what is a very, very harsh cabinet decision.
Welsh: Diolch i chi am y sylwadau hynny, roeddwn yn meddwl eu bod yn ddefnyddiol iawn, ac rwy'n edrych ymlaen at y Papur Gwyn hefyd. Yn y cyfamser, fodd bynnag, yn 2016, fe gyhoeddoch chi gynllun pum pwynt i gefnogi llwybrau bysiau, gan gynnig cymorth i bob cwmni bysiau yng Nghymru drwy Busnes Cymru a Cyllid Cymru, ac ar yr un pryd, fe alwoch - fel rydych wedi'i wneud eto heddiw - ar awdurdodau lleol i wneud pob ymdrech i ddiogelu'r cyllid ar gyfer gwasanaethau bysiau. Efallai eich bod yn ymwybodol fod cynghorwyr bwrdeistref sirol Pen-y-bont ar Ogwr wedi galw am edrych eto ar benderfyniad gan eu cabinet i roi'r gorau i sybsideiddio trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus. O gofio bod gennych arian ychwanegol, mae'n rhaid eu bod wedi cael rhywfaint o hwnnw, ac roeddech yn disgwyl iddo gael ei ddefnyddio'n ychwanegol at eu cymorthdaliadau bysiau eu hunain, nid yw'n swnio fel pe bai hwnnw hyd yn oed yn cyrraedd y cwmnïau bysiau yn yr achos hwn. Tybed a allech ddweud wrthyf a ydych yn gwybod a oedd gweithredwyr bysiau yn ardal Pen-y-bont ar Ogwr yn gwybod am y cynnig o gymorth gan Busnes Cymru a Cyllid Cymru ac a wyddai'r awdurdod lleol am hynny hefyd, gan y gallent fod wedi annog gweithredwyr i fanteisio ar y cynnig hwnnw, ac osgoi penderfyniad cabinet llym iawn trwy wneud hynny.