English: I thank Lynne Neagle for those questions. I've also visited the young offenders unit at Parc prison, and I think the fact that 40 per cent of those young people placed there have been formerly looked after is an absolute reason why we have to do something about this. And that's why we're taking action, for that very sort of reason, because that is the consequence of the care system as we've been running it so far. So, I feel deeply committed to trying to stop that sort of thing happening. And, really, that's why we're doing what we're doing. I know Lynne Neagle says that she's uneasy about the setting of targets or expectation of reductions - whatever expression we use. And again, as I did with Helen Mary Jones, I'd like to reassure her that this setting of targets is being done by the local authorities - they are setting their own targets. We are going along to support them and discuss it with them. And the whole purpose of doing it is to do it in a co-productive way. I think further along in her statement she said she felt that it hadn't been done in a co-productive way, so I'd be really interested if she could perhaps explain that to me in more detail, because, certainly, the intention has been for the officials from Welsh Government to work with the local authorities in a co-productive way to come forward with something that is jointly accepted. And with the majority of local authorities, that has happened. So, I'd be grateful if she would discuss that with me. In the care crisis report, yes, absolutely, I know that there is no one simple explanation as to why there had been this big rise in children coming into care. And I think we'd all agree that it's a whole mass of reasons, including austerity and poverty and many, many things that you can't pin down to one thing. There isn't, as she says, a simple answer. So, what we can do is do our best to prevent that happening by doing what we can to prevent those children coming into care, stop them coming in, and to help some of the other children to be reunited with their families, to prevent the re-entering of care. For example, in terms of extra resources - which I think she mentioned further on - we have put this £2.3 million into the adoption services, which is tremendously important and has been so welcomed by the sector, acknowledging the huge need there is for support to be given after adoption actually takes place in order to prevent re-entry into the care system, which does sometimes happen when adoptive parents take on very difficult, damaged children. So, I think that's a huge step that this has finally been acknowledged and money has gone in and that money is to support the adoption services. To go on further with her questions, who was responsible for the risk assessing, well, the local authorities are risk assessing while they're doing things all the time. We are not trying to take away anything from local authorities; we want to help support them to achieve the Wales-wide aim of trying to reduce the number of children who are coming in. We have agreed that there would be regular visits and regular monitoring by the Welsh Government. I repeat the co-production. Perhaps I could have a discussion with her about how she would see children's rights impact assessments and how she would see those operating in these sorts of circumstances. And, absolutely, local authorities are placing children out of county and out of country because the places are absolutely not available in Wales. One of the things that we are doing is trying to get the children's agenda on the agenda for the regional partnership boards in order to develop facilities within Wales, and also the ICF fund, which is also being used to develop facilities. Some regions have got plans that have been agreed in order to try to fill in the gaps that undoubtedly exist. She's absolutely right: we have to put more resources in. We are providing resources via those boards. Some regions have already started them. So, I don't think we should get really too hung up on the numbers thing. It's an overall effort that we want to try to reduce the numbers of children in care and I think what we must do is look at it in an overall way in terms of trying to get a movement in this field, which as I say is rapidly escalating.
Welsh: Rwy'n diolch i Lynne Neagle am y cwestiynau hynny. Rwyf innau hefyd wedi ymweld â'r uned troseddwyr ifanc yng ngharchar y Parc, ac rwy'n credu bod y ffaith bod 40 y cant o'r bobl ifanc a leolwyd yno yn arfer derbyn gofal yn rheswm pendant pam mae'n rhaid inni wneud rhywbeth ynglŷn â hyn. A dyna pam rydym ni'n cymryd camau, am yr union reswm hwnnw, oherwydd dyna ganlyniad y system ofal yr ydym ni wedi bod yn ei rhedeg hyd yn hyn. Felly, rwy'n teimlo'n ymroddedig iawn i geisio atal peth fel hyn rhag digwydd. Ac, mewn gwirionedd, dyna pam rydym ni'n gwneud yr hyn a wnawn ni. Gwn fod Lynne Neagle yn dweud ei bod yn anesmwyth ynglŷn â gosod targedau neu ddisgwyliadau o ran gostyngiadau - beth bynnag fo'r mynegiant a ddefnyddiwn. Ac unwaith eto, fel y gwnes i gyda Helen Mary Jones, hoffwn ei sicrhau hi y bydd yr awdurdodau lleol yn gosod y targedau hyn - maen nhw'n gosod eu targedau eu hunain. Rydym am fynd atyn nhw i'w cefnogi nhw a thrafod hynny gyda nhw. A holl ddiben gwneud hyn yw ei wneud mewn ffordd gyd-gynhyrchiol. Rwy'n credu ei bod hi ymhellach yn ei datganiad wedi dweud ei bod yn teimlo nad oedd hyn wedi cael ei wneud mewn ffordd gyd-gynhyrchiol. Felly byddwn i'n falch iawn pe gallai hi egluro hynny'n fanylach, oherwydd, yn sicr, y bwriad fu i swyddogion o Lywodraeth Cymru weithio gyda'r awdurdodau lleol mewn modd cyd-gynhyrchiol ar gyfer cyflwyno rhywbeth sy'n dderbyniol ar y cyd. A chyda'r rhan fwyaf o awdurdodau lleol, mae hynny wedi digwydd. Felly, byddwn i'n ddiolchgar pe byddai hi'n trafod hynny gyda mi. Yn yr adroddiad ar yr argyfwng o ran gofal, ie, yn hollol, gwn nad oes unrhyw esboniad syml ynghylch pam y cafwyd y cynnydd mawr yn nifer y plant sy'n cael eu derbyn mewn gofal. Ac rwy'n credu y byddem ni i gyd yn cytuno fod yna doreth o resymau, gan gynnwys cyni a thlodi a llawer, llawer o bethau na allwch chi eu cyfyngu nhw i un peth. Nid oes ateb syml, fel y mae hi'n dweud. Felly, yr hyn y gallwn ni ei wneud yw gwneud ein gorau i atal hynny rhag digwydd drwy wneud popeth o fewn ein gallu i atal y plant sy'n cael eu derbyn i ofal, eu hatal rhag dod i mewn, a helpu rhai o'r plant eraill i gael eu hailuno â'u teuluoedd, i'w hatal rhag ailymuno â gofal. Er enghraifft, o ran adnoddau ychwanegol - y credaf iddi sôn amdanyn nhw ymhellach ymlaen - rydym wedi rhoi'r £2.3 miliwn hwn i'r gwasanaethau mabwysiadu. Mae hyn yn eithriadol o bwysig a chafwyd croeso iddo gan y sector, gan gydnabod yr angen dirfawr am roi cymorth ar ôl mabwysiadu er mwyn atal ailymuno â'r system gofal, sy'n digwydd weithiau pan fydd rhieni sy'n mabwysiadu yn ymgymryd â phlant anufudd ac anystywallt iawn. Felly, rwy'n credu bod hwn yn gam enfawr a gafodd ei gydnabod o'r diwedd a bod arian wedi cael ei wario a bod arian i gefnogi'r gwasanaethau mabwysiadu. I fwrw ymlaen ymhellach gyda'i chwestiynau hi, pwy oedd yn gyfrifol am yr asesiad o'r risgiau, wel, mae'r awdurdodau lleol yn asesu risg drwy'r amser wrth wneud pethau. Nid ydym yn ceisio cymryd unrhyw beth oddi ar yr awdurdodau lleol; rydym yn awyddus i helpu i'w cefnogi nhw i gyflawni'r nod ledled Cymru, sef ceisio lleihau nifer y plant sy'n dod i mewn. Rydym wedi cytuno y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn ymweld yn rheolaidd ac yn monitro'n rheolaidd. Rwy'n codi cyd-gynhyrchiad eto. Efallai y gallwn i gael trafodaeth â hi ynglŷn â sut y byddai hi'n gweld asesiadau o'r effaith ar hawliau plant a sut y byddai hi'n gweld y rhain yn gweithredu mewn amgylchiadau fel hyn. Ac, yn sicr, mae awdurdodau lleol yn lleoli plant y tu allan i'r sir a thu allan i'r wlad am nad oes lleoedd ar gael yng Nghymru o gwbl. Un o'r pethau yr ydym ni'n ei wneud yw ceisio sicrhau bod yr agenda blant ar agenda'r byrddau partneriaeth rhanbarthol er mwyn datblygu cyfleusterau yng Nghymru, a hefyd y gronfa ICF, sy'n cael ei defnyddio hefyd i ddatblygu cyfleusterau. Mae gan rai rhanbarthau gynlluniau y cytunwyd arnyn nhw i geisio llenwi'r bylchau sy'n sicr yn bodoli. Mae hi'n hollol iawn: mae'n rhaid inni ddarparu mwy o adnoddau. Rydym yn darparu adnoddau drwy'r byrddau hyn. Mae rhai rhanbarthau eisoes wedi cychwyn arnyn nhw. Felly, nid wyf yn credu y dylem ofidio'n ormodol am y rhifau. Ymdrech gyffredinol yw hon, sef ein bod ni'n ceisio lleihau nifer y plant sydd mewn gofal, a chredaf mai'r hyn sy'n rhaid i ni ei wneud yw edrych ar hyn mewn ffordd gyffredinol o ran ceisio cael ysgogiad yn y maes hwn, sydd fel rwy'n dweud yn prysur waethygu.