English: On borders, my frustration is that we have tried to engage with UK Ministers on the rapidly evolving situation, and we have not made progress because there has not been a willingness to engage with us, as the Member recognised in his opening, and recognised that meaningful dialogue has not taken place with devolved Governments. I've indicated that my recent letter was to the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs on 24 March, and I still haven't had the courtesy of a response. In terms of what the future model should look like, well, we're really, in many ways, interested, with, of course, devolved responsibilities, around sanitary and phytosanitary checks - essentially, plant and animal health, and products based on them. Now, the difficulty, in terms of what the future model will look like, is that that's all been put off. We were going to have a model, we were looking to spend money on creating border control posts, and in many ways it was worse than in England, with more money having been spent on both recruiting staff and also creating physical facilities. We were due to be letting a contract to Kier construction, which I've announced publicly before, to create permanent facilities in Holyhead in spring 2023. We're now not sure if we're going to go ahead with those, because we don't have the certainty on what we're going to need to create to maintain what should be an effective and coherent system across Britain for imports. So, I can't honestly tell you what the new model will look like because we haven't had those discussions and the UK Government haven't given us a clear idea what they think a new model should look like, other than it will be technology based. That's why we can't engage in detail with stakeholders following the announcement. It's also why I can't tell you about your further question about the new technology to ease the flow of goods, and an update on it. We've only been told it will be technology, not what the technology is, not how far advanced it is, nor even how it could be procured, nor even what the cost would be for nations within the UK for a new form of system. Because, actually, we have devolved responsibilities, but there's a great deal of sense in having a common approach in each part of the UK. And it goes on to the point you made about African swine fever that I'll come to. So, we want to be collaborative, but it does require people to talk with us, to share information and for there to be genuine engagement on what a technology answer will be and how much it can do. It could speed up the flow of some goods, but, actually, there may well be limits. And it comes to some of the points that you have made on swine fever, for example. We currently have destination checks on 5 per cent of livestock coming in. That means 19 out of 20 aren't checked at destination. There have, though, in conversation - you asked me about conversation with the chief vet and with Lesley Griffiths, in her role as Minister for rural affairs - . I had a conversation last week with Lesley Griffiths and I spoke with the chief vet this morning, and, indeed, we are aware that some of those destination checks are revealing challenges. Now, the challenge is that, actually, currently in continental Europe, there are more risks. The destination checks pick up some of those but not all of them. So, actually, from a biosecurity point of view, having checks at borders is more important because we have left the European Union. And, as the British Veterinary Association have pointed out, we now no longer have access to the early surveillance and warning system that EU member states have; they have an integrated and highly responsive surveillance system that we're not part of. And we don't then have the border control checks to try to add to our own protections now we're not part of that system - we don't have a line of sight in it. So, we actually have a worsened position in not being part of that without, then, creating the import infrastructure to provide greater protection for farming communities. I know the Member will be aware of that from his own constituency. When it comes to challenges for import and export businesses - and not just for the farming community, but it's an obvious example, which is why the NFU have been so clear and critical on the decision - goods that come in from the European Union are not going to be subject to checks, whereas, actually, British farmers looking to export their produce will be subject to those checks. So, there's an uneven playing field that has been extended for a range of businesses, and it's understandable why the NFU have been sharply critical of the move that has taken place at very short notice. I'll deal with your final points about border control sites. Well, Johnston is off the agenda. We've explained why that is, previously, in the statement that I've made. We will of course need to look at alternative sites, but, to do that, we need to understand what the future infrastructure is going to be. I can hardly set out and direct officials to go and look at those without there being an understanding of what future border controls are going to look like, how much physical infrastructure will be needed and where it would need to be and how close to our ports. That also goes to your point about future costs. The UK Treasury will need to take a view on future costs. We want them to properly fund the costs of border controls that come directly from the UK decision to introduce any form of leaving the European Union with the new checks that we are required to undertake. It is entirely likely that construction costs will rise. I'm not sure we'll need to retender for the exercise we've already undertaken, but all of these uncertainties do neatly encapsulate the challenge in a very short notice and late decision and an entirely new policy direction with an end date in mind without a clear understanding on how to get there.
Welsh: O ran ffiniau, fy rhwystredigaeth i yw ein bod ni wedi ceisio ymgysylltu â Gweinidogion y DU ar y sefyllfa sy'n datblygu'n gyflym, ac nid ydym ni wedi gwneud cynnydd oherwydd nid oes parodrwydd wedi bod i ymgysylltu â ni, fel yr oedd yr Aelod wedi cydnabod yn ei agoriad, gan gydnabod nad oes deialog ystyrlon wedi digwydd gyda Llywodraethau datganoledig. Rwyf i wedi nodi mai ar 24 Mawrth y cafodd fy llythyr diweddar ei anfon at Adran yr Amgylchedd, Bwyd a Materion Gwledig, a dim ymateb hyd yn hyn, sy'n anghwrtais. O ran sut y dylai'r model yn y dyfodol edrych, wel, mewn sawl ffordd mae gennym ni diddordeb, mewn gwirionedd, mewn cyfrifoldebau datganoledig, wrth gwrs, yn ymwneud ag archwiliadau iechydol a ffytoiechydol - yn y bôn, iechyd planhigion ac anifeiliaid, a chynhyrchion sy'n seiliedig arnyn nhw. Nawr, yr anhawster, o ran sut y bydd y model yn y dyfodol yn edrych, yw bod hynny i gyd wedi'i ohirio. Roeddem ni'n mynd i gael model, yr oeddem ni'n bwriadu gwario arian ar greu safleoedd rheoli ffiniau, ac mewn sawl ffordd yr oedd yn waeth nag yn Lloegr, gyda mwy o arian wedi'i wario ar recriwtio staff a hefyd creu cyfleusterau ffisegol. Roeddem i fod i roi contract i Kier Construction, yr wyf i wedi'i gyhoeddi'n gyhoeddus o'r blaen, i greu cyfleusterau parhaol yng Nghaergybi yng ngwanwyn 2023. Nid ydym ni'n siŵr nawr a ydym ni'n mynd i fwrw ymlaen â'r rheini, oherwydd nid oes gennym ni'r sicrwydd ynghylch yr hyn y bydd angen i ni ei greu i gynnal yr hyn a ddylai fod yn system effeithiol a chydlynol ledled Prydain ar gyfer mewnforion. Felly, ni allaf i ddweud wrthych chi yn ddiffuant sut olwg fydd ar y model newydd gan nad ydym ni wedi cael y trafodaethau hynny ac nid yw Llywodraeth y DU wedi rhoi syniad clir i ni sut y dylai model newydd edrych yn eu barn nhw, ar wahân i'r hyn a fydd yn seiliedig ar dechnoleg. Dyna pam na allwn ni ymgysylltu'n fanwl â rhanddeiliaid yn dilyn y cyhoeddiad. Dyna hefyd pam na allaf i ddweud dim i ateb eich cwestiwn arall am y dechnoleg newydd i leddfu llif nwyddau, a diweddariad arno. Nid ydym ni ond wedi cael gwybod mai technoleg fydd hi, nid beth yw'r dechnoleg, nid pa mor bell ymlaen ydyw, na hyd yn oed sut y mae modd ei chaffael, na hyd yn oed beth fyddai'r gost i genhedloedd yn y DU ar gyfer math newydd o system. Oherwydd, mewn gwirionedd, mae gennym ni gyfrifoldebau datganoledig, ond mae'n gwneud llawer iawn o synnwyr i gael dull gweithredu cyffredin ym mhob rhan o'r DU. Ac mae'n mynd ymlaen at y pwynt y gwnaethoch chi ynghylch clwy moch Affricanaidd y byddaf i'n dod ato. Felly, rydym eisiau bod yn gydweithredol, ond mae angen i bobl siarad â ni, i rannu gwybodaeth ac yn wir i ymgysylltu go iawn ynghylch beth fydd yr ateb technolegol a faint y gall ei wneud. Gallai gyflymu llif rhai nwyddau, ond, mewn gwirionedd, mae'n ddigon posibl y bydd terfynau. Ac mae'n dod at rai o'r pwyntiau yr ydych wedi'u gwneud ynghylch clwy moch, er enghraifft. Ar hyn o bryd mae gennym ni archwiliadau cyrchfan ar 5 y cant o dda byw sy'n dod i mewn. Mae hynny'n golygu nad yw 19 allan o 20 yn cael eu harchwilio yn y gyrchfan. Er hynny, mewn sgwrs - gwnaethoch chi ofyn i mi am sgwrs gyda'r prif filfeddyg a gyda Lesley Griffiths, yn rhinwedd ei swydd yn Weinidog materion gwledig - . Cefais i sgwrs yr wythnos diwethaf â Lesley Griffiths a siaradais â'r prif filfeddyg y bore yma, ac, yn wir, rydym ni'n ymwybodol bod rhai o'r archwiliadau cyrchfannau hynny'n datgelu heriau. Nawr, yr her yw bod mwy o risgiau, mewn gwirionedd, ar gyfandir Ewrop ar hyn o bryd. Mae'r archwiliadau cyrchfannau'n codi rhai o'r rheini ond nid pob un ohonyn nhw. Felly, mewn gwirionedd, o safbwynt bioddiogelwch, mae cael archwiliadau ar ffiniau yn bwysicach oherwydd ein bod ni wedi gadael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd. Ac, fel y mae Cymdeithas Milfeddygon Prydain wedi'i nodi, nid oes gennym ni nawr fynediad i'r system arolygu a rhybuddio cynnar sydd gan aelod-wladwriaethau'r UE; mae ganddyn nhw system wyliadwriaeth integredig ac ymatebol iawn nad ydym ni'n rhan ohoni. Ac nid oes gennym ni wedyn archwiliadau mesurau rheoli ffiniau i geisio ychwanegu at ein hamddiffyniadau ein hunain gan nad ydym ni nawr yn rhan o'r system honno - nid oes gennym ni gyfle i fanteisio arni. Felly, mae gennym ni sefyllfa sy'n gwaethygu o ran peidio â bod yn rhan o hynny heb, felly, greu'r seilwaith mewnforio i ddarparu mwy o ddiogelwch i gymunedau ffermio. Rwy'n gwybod y bydd yr Aelod yn ymwybodol o hynny o'i etholaeth ei hun. O ran heriau i fusnesau mewnforio ac allforio - ac nid i'r gymuned ffermio'n unig, ond mae'n enghraifft amlwg, a dyna pam mae'r NFU wedi bod mor glir a beirniadol ynglŷn â'r penderfyniad - ni fydd nwyddau sy'n dod i mewn o'r Undeb Ewropeaidd yn destun archwiliadau, ond, mewn gwirionedd, bydd ffermwyr Prydain sy'n dymuno allforio eu cynnyrch yn destun yr archwiliadau hynny. Felly, mae sefyllfa annheg wedi'i hymestyn ar gyfer amrywiaeth o fusnesau, ac mae'n ddealladwy pam y mae'r NFU wedi bod yn feirniadol iawn o'r newid sydd wedi digwydd ar fyr rybudd. Fe wnaf ymdrin â'ch pwyntiau olaf am safleoedd rheoli ffiniau. Wel, nid yw Johnston ar yr agenda. Rydym ni wedi esbonio'r rheswm am hynny, o'r blaen, yn y datganiad yr wyf i wedi'i wneud. Wrth gwrs, bydd angen i ni edrych ar safleoedd eraill, ond, er mwyn gwneud hynny, mae angen i ni ddeall beth fydd y seilwaith yn y dyfodol. Prin y gallaf i osod a chyfarwyddo swyddogion i fynd i edrych ar y rheini heb ddeall sut y bydd mesurau rheoli ffiniau yn y dyfodol yn edrych, faint o seilwaith ffisegol fydd ei angen a ble y byddai angen iddyn nhw fod a pha mor agos at ein porthladdoedd. Mae hynny hefyd yn mynd at eich pwynt am gostau yn y dyfodol. Bydd angen i Drysorlys y DU lunio barn ar gostau yn y dyfodol. Rydym ni eisiau iddyn nhw ariannu'n briodol gostau mesurau rheoli ffiniau sy'n deillio'n uniongyrchol o benderfyniad y DU i gyflwyno unrhyw ffurf o adael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd gyda'r archwiliadau newydd y mae'n ofynnol i ni eu cynnal. Mae'n gwbl debygol y bydd costau adeiladu'n codi. Nid wyf i'n siŵr a fydd angen i ni aildendro ar gyfer yr ymarfer yr ydym ni eisoes wedi'i wneud, ond mae'r holl ansicrwydd hwn yn crisialu'n daclus yr her o fyr rybudd a phenderfyniad hwyr iawn a chyfeiriad polisi cwbl newydd gyda dyddiad terfynu mewn golwg heb ddealltwriaeth glir o sut i gyrraedd yno.