English: I thank Gareth very much for his comments and thank him for the sorrow that he has expressed for this tragedy, recognising that, ultimately, the responsibility is with those three people who are incarcerated. I think the issue of COVID is an important issue and, certainly, the review refers to COVID on a number of occasions. I think it did make it more difficult because, certainly, all of the case conferences were taking place virtually and, in terms of actually speaking to Logan, it did make for some difficulties - the fact that COVID was operating. But, I think there are clear guidelines about how you should operate, looking at child protection, so I don't think that we can say that COVID is entirely to blame for what happened. But, COVID certainly took its toll on the workforce. We know that many people were off sick, so the strain on the workforce was worse than in normal times. But, again, there's no way that you can say that if something there had been different, this wouldn't have happened. There is an over-reliance on agency staff, and we are doing our utmost to attract more social workers. As you'll know, we have introduced the bursary in order to encourage social workers to join and to remain, trying to give it more of an alliance with the bursaries in the health service. We've also given support for social workers, because I think we do all recognise what a difficult job social work is. I was a social worker myself, so I certainly do know the huge strain that social workers are put under, and I think it's essential that we do all that we can to support them in such a difficult job. Gareth referred to information sharing, which is an absolutely key issue, and also about junior staff being afraid to challenge, which was referred to in the report. I think this is one of the learnings that has to come out of the report; there were learning themes that came out of the report and we've got to make sure that there is a different culture within the organisations that are referred to. In terms of the Wales-wide review of children's services, I've already said that I'm accepting all of the recommendations that are in the report. Certainly, they don't all apply to the Welsh Government, so I will have to accept them and work with the partner agencies to make sure that we move forward to implement those recommendations. I feel at this stage that it wouldn't help to actually address these issues if we were to go for a children's social services-wide review, because the one in England took 16 months; I anticipate the one that's going to happen in Northern Ireland will take 16 months. A lot of the things that came out in those reports are ones that are echoed in the work that we are doing and are echoed in this review. So, the recommendations that we are taking on board are far-reaching, looking at how case conferences are chaired and many other very important recommendations. I think that that, along with the work and the reviews that we've already done, gives us a really good base to start working on this now. And I don't think that having a further review at this stage will actually help, so I think we need to start work now. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr i Gareth am ei sylwadau a diolch iddo am fynegi ei dristwch am y drasiedi hon, gan gydnabod mai, yn y pen draw, y tri unigolyn hynny a garcharwyd sy'n gyfrifol. Rwy'n credu bod mater COVID yn fater pwysig ac, yn sicr, mae'r adolygiad yn cyfeirio at COVID ar sawl achlysur. Rwy'n credu ei fod wedi ei gwneud hi'n fwy anodd oherwydd, yn sicr, roedd pob un o'r cynadleddau achos yn rhai rhithwir ac, o ran siarad â Logan yn y cnawd, fe achosodd rai anawsterau - y ffaith bod cyfyngiadau COVID yn weithredol. Ond, rwy'n credu bod yna ganllawiau clir ynglŷn â sut y dylech chi weithredu, o ran amddiffyn plant, felly nid wyf o'r farn y gallwn ni ddweud mai ar COVID yr oedd y bai i gyd am yr hyn a ddigwyddodd. Ond, yn sicr fe effeithiodd COVID yn sylweddol ar y gweithlu. Fe wyddom ni fod llawer wedi bod yn absennol oherwydd salwch, felly roedd y straen ar y gweithlu yn waeth nag arfer. Ond, eto, nid oes unrhyw ffordd y gallwch chi ddweud, pe byddai rhywbeth wedi bod yn wahanol, yna ni fyddai hyn wedi digwydd. Mae yna orddibyniaeth ar staff asiantaeth, ac rydym ni'n gwneud ein gorau glas i ddenu mwy o weithwyr cymdeithasol. Fel y gwyddoch chi, rydym ni wedi cyflwyno'r bwrsari i annog gweithwyr cymdeithasol i ymuno ac aros, gan geisio rhoi mwy o gysylltiad rhyngddo a'r bwrsariaethau yn y gwasanaeth iechyd. Rydym ni wedi rhoi cefnogaeth i weithwyr cymdeithasol hefyd, oherwydd rwy'n credu ein bod ni i gyd yn cydnabod pa mor anodd yw swyddi gwaith cymdeithasol. Roeddwn i'n weithiwr cymdeithasol fy hunan, felly yn sicr rwy'n gwybod am y straen enfawr sydd ar weithwyr cymdeithasol, ac rwy'n credu ei bod hi'n hanfodol ein bod ni'n gwneud popeth yn ein gallu i'w cefnogi nhw mewn swydd sydd mor anodd. Roedd Gareth yn cyfeirio at rannu gwybodaeth, sef mater cwbl allweddol, a hefyd bod staff iau ag ofn herio, ac fe gyfeiriwyd at hynny yn yr adroddiad. Rwy'n credu mai dyma un o'r gwersi y mae'n rhaid ei dysgu o'r adroddiad; roedd yna themâu o ran dysgu yn codi o'r adroddiad ac mae'n rhaid i ni wneud yn siŵr bod y diwylliant yn newid yn y sefydliadau yr atgyfeirir atynt. O ran adolygiad o wasanaethau plant ledled Cymru, rwyf i eisoes wedi dweud fy mod i'n derbyn yr holl argymhellion sydd yn yr adroddiad. Yn sicr, nid ydyn nhw i gyd yn berthnasol i Lywodraeth Cymru, felly fe fydd yn rhaid i mi eu derbyn a gweithio gyda'r asiantaethau partner i wneud yn siŵr ein bod ni'n symud ymlaen i weithredu'r argymhellion hynny. Rwy'n teimlo ar hyn o bryd na fyddai adolygiad o wasanaethau cymdeithasol i blant o gymorth i fynd i'r afael â'r materion hyn mewn gwirionedd, oherwydd cymerodd yr un yn Lloegr 16 mis; rwy'n rhagweld y bydd yr un sydd am ddigwydd yng Ngogledd Iwerddon yn cymryd 16 mis. Mae llawer o'r pethau a ddaeth i'r amlwg yn yr adroddiadau hynny yn rhai sy'n cael eu hadleisio yn y gwaith yr ydym ni'n ei wneud ac yn cael eu hadleisio yn yr adolygiad hwn. Felly, mae'r argymhellion yr ydym ni'n eu derbyn yn rhai pellgyrhaeddol, sy'n ystyried sut mae cynadleddau achos yn cael eu cadeirio a llawer o argymhellion pwysig iawn eraill. Rwy'n credu bod hynny, ynghyd â'r gwaith a'r adolygiadau a wnaethom ni eisoes, yn rhoi sylfaen dda iawn i ni ddechrau gweithio ar hyn nawr. Ac nid wyf i o'r farn y byddai cael adolygiad pellach ar hyn o bryd o gymorth gwirioneddol, felly rwyf i o'r farn mai dechrau gweithio nawr sydd ei angen arnom ni. Diolch i chi.