English: This would feel like groundhog day if it wasn't in the context of the cataclysmic storms and floods that we've had in the last few weeks, which makes it astonishing to me that we are debating whether or not to invest in more roads, when it's absolutely clear that the climate emergency requires us to find different solutions to the congestion problems that we have. We know, from the Government's own evidence to the planning inquiry that the effect of investing £1.5 billion in 14 miles of road would be to increase the traffic on the M4 and simply to move it further along that road. This is not a good use of public money at all, and the First Minister took absolutely the right decision. I find it astonishing that the Conservatives would argue that a solution to actually just move the congestion further down the road and to bring more people into Cardiff and Newport by car is a solution that we should be considering. It simply doesn't sit well with the Welsh Conservatives' call for a clean air Act, because the proposal in this motion would be to simply make the problem much worse. Declaring a climate emergency has consequences, and I believe that the Conservatives need to start catching up with the need to do things differently rather than promoting more of the car-centric policies that have led us to the current deplorable and unsustainable despoiling of the world's resources. We simply can't go on like this. I would like to see the Welsh Conservatives concentrating on getting the UK Government to rectify the historic underfunding of our rail system, which is the reason why 43 per cent of the people using the M4 are simply commuting into work. It is really not a good use of a car to be driving it to work, parking it for eight hours and then driving out again. We must have a better public transport system. We absolutely can agree on that. But we simply need to reflect on the fact, as the economy Minister said in an earlier question this afternoon, that Wales has 11 per cent of the stations and the signalling across England and Wales, but only 2 per cent of the funding. So, there's clearly plenty of money around when London-focused projects are being decided on. I remain to be convinced that HS2 will have any benefit for Wales, but I can see that it might, if it led to the electrification and extension of the hi-speed line to Holyhead. But -
Welsh: Byddai hyn yn teimlo fel pe bai wedi digwydd droeon o'r blaen pe na bai'n digwydd yng nghyd-destun y stormydd a'r llifogydd trychinebus rydym wedi'u cael dros yr wythnosau diwethaf, sy'n gwneud i mi ryfeddu ein bod yn trafod a ddylid buddsoddi mewn rhagor o ffyrdd ai peidio, pan fo'n gwbl amlwg fod yr argyfwng hinsawdd yn ei gwneud yn ofynnol inni ddod o hyd i atebion gwahanol i'r problemau tagfeydd sydd gennym. O dystiolaeth y Llywodraeth ei hun i'r ymchwiliad cynllunio, gwyddom mai effaith buddsoddi £1.5 biliwn mewn 14 milltir o ffordd fyddai cynyddu'r traffig ar yr M4 a'i symud ymhellach ar hyd y ffordd honno. Nid yw hyn yn ddefnydd da o arian cyhoeddus o gwbl, ac fe wnaeth y Prif Weinidog y penderfyniad cywir. Rwy'n rhyfeddu bod y Ceidwadwyr yn dadlau y byddai ateb sy'n symud y tagfeydd ymhellach i lawr y ffordd a dod â mwy o bobl i Gaerdydd a Chasnewydd mewn ceir yn ateb y dylem ei ystyried. Nid yw'n gyson â galwad y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig am Ddeddf aer glân, oherwydd yr argymhelliad yn y cynnig hwn fyddai gwneud y broblem yn waeth o lawer. Mae datgan argyfwng hinsawdd yn arwain at ganlyniadau, a chredaf fod angen i'r Ceidwadwyr ddechrau dal i fyny â'r angen i wneud pethau'n wahanol yn hytrach na hyrwyddo mwy o'r polisïau sy'n canolbwyntio ar geir sydd wedi ein harwain at y sefyllfa druenus ac anghynaliadwy rydym ynddi ar hyn o bryd, lle rydym yn anrheithio adnoddau'r byd. Ni allwn barhau fel hyn. Hoffwn weld y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig yn canolbwyntio ar sicrhau bod Llywodraeth y DU yn unioni tangyllido hanesyddol ein system reilffyrdd, sef y rheswm pam fod 43 y cant o'r bobl sy'n defnyddio'r M4 yn cymudo i'r gwaith. Nid yw gyrru car i'r gwaith, ei barcio am wyth awr cyn ei yrru oddi yno wedyn yn ddefnydd da o gar. Mae'n rhaid inni gael gwell system drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus. Gallwn yn sicr gytuno ar hynny. Ond fel y dywedodd Gweinidog yr economi mewn cwestiwn cynharach y prynhawn yma, rhaid inni ystyried bod gan Gymru 11 y cant o'r gorsafoedd a'r signalau ar draws Cymru a Lloegr, ond ni chaiff ond 2 y cant o'r cyllid. Felly, mae'n amlwg fod digon o arian o gwmpas pan wneir penderfyniadau ynglŷn â phrosiectau sy'n canolbwyntio ar Lundain. Nid wyf wedi fy argyhoeddi eto y bydd HS2 yn arwain at unrhyw fudd i Gymru, ond gallaf weld y gallai, pe bai'n arwain at drydaneiddio ac ymestyn y rheilffordd gyflym i Gaergybi. Ond -