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English: We'll therefore move on to our third item, which is scrutiny of the Senedd Commission draft budget for 2021-22. Time flies; it's a year since we last did this. And may I extend a warm welcome to Suzy Davies, MS, commissioner? And joining her are Manon Antoniazzi, Chief Executive and Clerk of the Senedd, and Nia Morgan, director of finance. So, a warm welcome to all three of you We'll move immediately to questions, if that's okay, and I'll start by asking you, first of all: you told the Public Accounts Committee recently that you're working on cost and savings relating to the pandemic up to 30 September. I think that's the period you were looking at. So, can you tell us what you've learned from your experience up to that point, and what areas are showing significant savings or additional costs, and how you hope to manage this? You will need to unmute.
Welsh: Ymlaen â ni, felly, at y trydydd eitem, a dŷn ni heddiw yn craffu ar gyllideb ddrafft Comisiwn y Senedd ar gyfer 2021-22. Mae amser yn hedfan, i feddwl bod blwyddyn wedi mynd ers i ni wneud hyn y tro diwethaf. A gaf i estyn croeso arbennig i Suzy Davies, Aelod o'r Senedd, a chomisiynydd wrth gwrs, atom ni heddiw? A gyda hi mae Manon Antoniazzi, Prif Weithredwr a Chlerc y Senedd, a Nia Morgan, y cyfarwyddwr cyllid. Croeso i'r tair ohonoch chi. Mi awn ni'n syth i gwestiynau, os ydy hynny'n iawn, ac mi ddechreuaf i drwy ofyn i ddechrau: mi ddywedoch chi wrth y Pwyllgor Cyfrifon Cyhoeddus yn ddiweddar eich bod chi'n gweithio ar gostau ac arbedion yn ymwneud â'r pandemig, i fyny at ddiwedd Medi, rwy'n credu, oedd y cyfnod roeddech chi'n edrych arno fe'n benodol. Felly, a allwch chi ddweud wrthym ni ar y dechrau fel hyn beth ydych chi wedi'i ddysgu, efallai, o'r profiad yn y cyfnod yna, a pha feysydd efallai sy'n dangos arbedion sylweddol, ond hefyd pa feysydd sy'n dangos costau sylweddol a sut rydych chi'n gobeithio gallu rheoli hynny? Mae angen i chi 'unmute-o', neu 'dad-dewi' efallai yw'r gair Cymraeg.
English: ' Unmute-o' - I do like that word. Thank you, Chair.
Welsh: 'Unmute-o' - dwi'n licio'r gair yna. Diolch, Gadeirydd.
English: Could you perhaps tell us a little more about how that's reached that point? Clearly, circumstances have played a part, but don't you think that that could have been better managed?
Welsh: Allwch chi efallai ddweud ychydig bach ynglŷn â sut mae hynny wedi dod i'r lefel yna? Hynny yw, mae'n amlwg bod amgylchiadau, ond onid ydych chi'n teimlo y gellid bod wedi rheoli hwnna'n well?
English: Okay. Well, that's clearly something that we'd be eager to have an update on as we proceed. One does recognise that we are in unprecedented and difficult times, but I'm sure we would be interested in getting updates occasionally on that, if that's okay.
Welsh: Iawn, ocê. Wel, mae hwnna'n rhywbeth yn amlwg y byddem ni'n awyddus i gael ein diweddaru arno fe, dwi'n siŵr, wrth i ni fynd yn ein blaenau. Mae rhywun yn cydnabod ein bod ni mewn dyddiau gwahanol, dyddiau anodd, ond yn sicr mae rhywbeth fel yna yn rhywbeth, dwi'n siŵr, y byddai diddordeb mawr gennym ni ynddo, jest i gael ein diweddaru yn achlysurol ynglŷn ag e, os ydy hynny'n iawn.
English: Chair -
Welsh: Cadeirydd -
English: - if I could just build on what Nia and Suzy have said, from the perspective of the well-being of my colleagues, we have made it clear throughout this period that we expect people to take leave. And we have been seeking to manage the situation as carefully as we can, because, clearly, it's an issue not just of dealing with this financial issue, but of people's health and safety; they need to take their leave in order to maintain well-being, although perhaps they wouldn't have been able to travel as they had planned to. But what we have seen is, because we didn't have the usual lengthy break over the summer months, there has been additional pressure on certain departments. And I think it's tribute to all of our staff, if I could just take this opportunity to thank them once again for their commitment over the summer months. But it has left us with this problem, and it is a particular matter for management focus, to ensure that everyone is able to take leave, and that we do keep this under the spotlight for the rest of the financial year and into the next financial year.
Welsh: - gaf i adeiladu ar beth ddywedodd Nia a Suzy? Jest o safbwynt lles fy nghydweithwyr, rŷn ni wedi ei gwneud hi'n glir drwy gydol y cyfnod yma ein bod ni'n disgwyl i bobl gymryd gwyliau. Ac rŷn ni wedi bod yn ceisio rheoli'r sefyllfa mor agos ag y gallwn ni, achos, yn amlwg, nid yn unig er mwyn osgoi'r mater lled ariannol yma, ond er mwyn iechyd a diogelwch pobl; mae angen iddyn nhw gymryd eu gwyliau i gynnal eu lles, fel y mae'n nhw'n gallu, er eu bod nhw ddim, o bosibl, yn gallu teithio fel yr oedden nhw wedi ei fwriadu. Ond beth rŷn ni wedi ei weld yw, oherwydd nad ydym ni wedi cael y toriad hir arferol dros yr haf, fod yna bwysau ychwanegol wedi bod ar rai adrannau. A dwi'n meddwl ei bod hi'n deyrnged i'r staff cyfan - os caf i fanteisio ar y cyfle jest i ddiolch iddyn nhw eto am eu hymroddiad dros yr haf. Ond mae e wedi ein gadael ni gyda'r broblem yma nawr, ac mae e'n fater o ffocws rheoli arbennig, i ni wneud yn siŵr bod pawb yn cael gorffwys yn eu tro, a'n bod ni'n cadw'r mater yma dan chwyddwydr am weddill y flwyddyn ariannol ac i fewn i'r flwyddyn nesaf.
English: Well, yes, that's a cause of concern, I would say. As the finance director has said, there are so many balls in the air at the moment and there isn't that long period of recess until after the election, to all intents and purposes. So, that's been a cause of concern and it's important that we keep a close eye on this. I know that you as a Commission will do so, but it's up to us as Members too, with the broader responsibilities that we have, to be aware of that. Okay. Thank you for that. You have said that you undertook zero-based budgeting, or a zero-based budgeting exercise, in order to fully analyse the non-staff budget and the impact of COVID. Can you tell us how that's impacted the figures in this budget, because there's very little clear difference in terms of some of the budgets? We're looking at cleaning, furnishings, parking costs - and the income from that. There doesn't seem to be much change in many of those areas.
Welsh: Wel, ie, mae hwnna'n destun pryder, fydden i'n dweud, achos, fel mae'r cyfarwyddwr cyllid wedi ei ddweud, mae yna gymaint o beli yn yr awyr ar hyn o bryd a does yna ddim cyfnod o doriad amlwg nawr tan ar ôl yr etholiad, i bob pwrpas. Felly mae hwn wedi bod yn destun gofid ac mae'n bwysig ein bod ni'n cadw llygad. Dwi'n gwybod y byddwch chi, fel Comisiwn, ond i ni fel Aelodau hefyd, a'r cyfrifoldeb ehangach sydd gyda ni, dwi'n siŵr, i fod yn ymwybodol iawn o hynny. Iawn, ocê. Diolch am hynny. Dŷch chi wedi dweud eich bod chi wedi ymgymryd â zero-based budgeting, neu ymarferiad zero-based budgeting, er mwyn dadansoddi'n llawn y gyllideb non-staff, a'r impact sy'n dod o COVID. Allwch chi ddweud sut y mae hynny wedi dylanwadu ar y ffigurau yn y gyllideb yma, oherwydd bach iawn o wahaniaeth amlwg sydd yna o safbwynt rhai o'r cyllidebau? Dŷn ni'n edrych ar bethau fel glanhau, a chelfi swyddfa, a chostau parcio - yr incwm o hynny hefyd. Dyw hi ddim yn edrych yn debyg fod yna lot o newid mewn rhai llefydd.
English: I was anticipating that process would have led to more far-reaching changes in the next year, but you're explaining perhaps that this is a longer term process.
Welsh: Fi oedd yn rhagweld y byddai'r broses yna yn arwain at newidiadau mwy sylweddol yn y flwyddyn nesaf, ond rydych chi yn esbonio efallai mai proses mwy hirdymor yw hynny, ie?
English: That's entirely fair and I accept that. Are you still on target, therefore, to spend the allocation in the project fund and the capital spend for 2020-21?
Welsh: Mae hynny'n ddigon teg; mae hynny'n ddigon teg. Dwi'n derbyn hynny'n llawn. Ydych chi'n dal i fod ar darged, felly, i wario'r allocation sydd yna yn y gronfa prosiectau - y project fund - ac arian cyfalaf hefyd ar gyfer 2020-21?
English: Thank you very much and good afternoon. As the term of the current Commissioners draws to a close, how can the Commission be sufficiently flexible for the future in setting priorities and influencing resource allocations, so that any new priorities that new Commissioners may have can be part of developments for the future too?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr a phrynhawn da. Wrth i dymor y Comisiynwyr presennol ddirwyn i ben, sut mae hi'n bosib i'r Comisiwn fod yn ddigon hyblyg i'r dyfodol wrth bennu blaenoriaethau ac yn enwedig dyraniadau adnoddau, fel y bydd blaenoriaethau newydd, efallai, fydd gan Gomisiynwyr newydd yn gallu bod yn rhan o bethau i'r dyfodol hefyd?
English: I suppose it's the same for a number of organisations when changes happen as a result of elections. In terms of long-term project planning, can you commit that you will provide a planning session with the Finance Committee - the next Finance Committee? At the moment, of course, the Finance Committee can scrutinise the budget, but the committee did recommend last year that there should be joint planning also. So, can you give that commitment on the record?
Welsh: Iawn. Mae'n debyg ei fod o'r un peth i sawl sefydliad, onid ydy, pan fydd newidiadau yn digwydd yn sgil etholiad? O ran cynllunio prosiectau hirdymor, fedrwch chi ymrwymo y byddwch chi yn darparu sesiwn gynllunio efo'r Pwyllgor Cyllid - y Pwyllgor Cyllid nesaf mewn ffordd? Ar hyn o bryd, wrth gwrs, mae'r Pwyllgor Cyllid yn gallu craffu ar y gyllideb, ond mae'r pwyllgor wedi argymell bod yna gynllunio ar y cyd yn digwydd hefyd. Fedrwch chi roi yr ymrwymiad yna ar record?
English: Alun has indicated that he wants to come in at this point.
Welsh: Mae Alun wedi gofyn os caiff e ddod i mewn ar y pwynt yma.
English: Thank you, Chair. I don't want to make a mountain out of a molehill in terms of the windows. I know that we sometimes need to make these investments to ensure that the estate is operating as it should. But the question for me in having listened to your comments is whether the Commission has any plans to take advantage of the recess and dissolution during the election period to invest in the estate at all. In the past, the Commission has taken the opportunity of the politicians being away for a lengthy period of time to invest in the estate, and I just wanted to know whether you have any plans to do anything of that kind after March.
Welsh: Diolch i ti, Cadeirydd. Dwi ddim eisiau gwneud môr a mynydd amboutu'r ffenestri. Dwi'n gwybod bod angen, ambell waith, gwneud y buddsoddiadau yma i sicrhau bod yr estate dal yn gweithredu fel y dylai fe. Cwestiwn i mi wrth wrando ar y sgwrs sy'n digwydd yn fan hyn yw: oes gan y Comisiwn unrhyw gynlluniau i gymryd mantais o'r recess a'r dissolution yn ystod cyfnod yr etholiad i fuddsoddi yn yr estate o gwbl? Yn y gorffennol, mae'r Comisiwn wedi bachu ar y cyfle, os dŷch chi'n licio, o'r gwleidyddion yn bod i ffwrdd am gyfnod hir i fuddsoddi yn yr estate, ac roeddwn i jest eisiau gwybod os oes gennych chi unrhyw gynlluniau i wneud unrhyw beth o'r fath ar ôl mis Mawrth.
English: Well, yes, Alun did mention the window replacement project and you've just said that it will be considered by Commissioners in the future, but this project has been discussed for quite some time now. Wouldn't this particular period when there aren't so many people on the estate be an ideal opportunity to ensure that that project could proceed? And secondly, can you be clear that decisions on the funding and the process for making decisions on this project will be entirely transparent for the future because it is a major project?
Welsh: Mae Alun wedi sôn am y prosiect newid y ffenestri ac rydych chi'n dweud rŵan y bydd o'n cael ei ystyried mewn cyfarfod gan Gomisiynwyr yn y dyfodol, ond mae'r prosiect yma - mae yna sôn am hwn wedi bod ers tro. Oni fyddai'r cyfnod yma lle does yna ddim llawer o bobl ar yr ystâd wedi bod yn gyfnod da ar gyfer sicrhau bod y prosiect yna'n mynd ymlaen? Ac yn ail beth, wnewch chi fod yn glir y bydd y penderfyniadau ynglŷn â'r cyllid a'r broses ar gyfer gwneud penderfyniadau ynghylch y prosiect yma'n hollol dryloyw i'r dyfodol achos mae o'n brosiect mawr iawn?
English: Okay. You mentioned a feasibility study. Has that taken account of the ventilation system in the Senedd? Because recycling the air and the way all of that happens has become an important issue during this recent period. Is that something that you're considering or has it been considered already?
Welsh: Ocê. Roeddech chi'n sôn am astudiaeth ddichonolrwydd. Ydy honno wedi cymryd i ystyriaeth y system awyru yn y Senedd? Oherwydd mae ailgylchu'r aer a'r ffordd mae hynny i gyd yn digwydd wedi dod yn fater pwysig yn ystod y cyfnod diwethaf yma. Ydy hwnna'n rhywbeth rydych chi'n ystyried neu ydy o wedi cael ystyriaeth yn barod?
English: Just to apologise, Chair. The work of drawing that report up in its final form was too much for us to deliver by the end of September, so I do apologise for that. But there is a draft, which is almost a final draft, so, although we did miss that deadline in discussing that with you today, I hope we have been able to put a body of evidence together that will provide you with assurances as to how that worked and how it's been something that's contributed to the flexibility that we, as a body of staff, have been able to show over the past six months.
Welsh: Dim ond i ymddiheuro, Gadeirydd. Mae'n ddrwg gen i, mi brofodd y gwaith o ddod â'r adroddiad yna i'w ffurf derfynol yn ormod i ni ei wneud erbyn diwedd mis Medi. Mae'n ddrwg gen i. Ond mae yna ddrafft sydd bron yn derfynol, felly, er ein bod ni wedi colli'r dedlein o drafod hwnna gyda chi heddiw, dwi'n gobeithio ein bod ni wedi gallu rhoi corff o dystiolaeth at ei gilydd fydd yn rhoi sicrwydd i chi ynglŷn â sut weithiodd y cynllun yna a sut mae e wedi bod yn rhywbeth sydd wedi cyfrannu at yr hyblygrwydd i ni gael corff o staff felly sydd wedi gallu dangos hynny yn ystod y chwe mis diwethaf.
English: There we are. Okay, we look forward -
Welsh: Dyna fe. Iawn, edrychwn ni ymlaen -
English: Just to respond to Nick's point on working from home, we do have a group of colleagues who are particularly focused at the moment on how we will change our patterns of work for the future and on developing options to enable people to have a better pattern in terms of work-life balance. I do hope that that will enable us, among other things, to employ people from a broader area of Wales, so that we can employ people who don't necessarily live in Cardiff.
Welsh: Jest i ateb y pwynt, hefyd, wnaeth Nick ynglŷn â gweithio gartref, mae gyda ni grŵp o gydweithwyr sydd yn ffocysu yn benodol ar hyn o bryd ar sut y byddwn ni'n newid ein gwaith ni yn y dyfodol ac ar ddatblygu opsiynau i alluogi pobl gael patrwm cyfoethocach o gydbwyso gwaith a bywyd tu allan. Dwi'n gobeithio y bydd hwnna, ymhlith pethau eraill, yn ein galluogi ni i gyflogi pobl o ardal ehangach yng Nghymru, fel ein bod ni'n gallu cyflogi pobl sydd ddim, o anghenraid, yn byw yng Nghaerdydd.
English: So, on the back of that point on staffing capacity and staff numbers, can you tell us what influence that has had in your estimates for next year in terms of the budget?
Welsh: A gaf i jest ofyn te, ar gefn y pwynt ynglŷn â chapasiti staffio, nifer y staff ac yn y blaen, a allwch chi ddweud rhywbeth ynglŷn â pha ddylanwad mae hynny wedi ei gael ar eich amcanu chi ar gyfer y flwyddyn nesaf o safbwynt y gyllideb?
English: We have drawn up the budget on the basis that we would remain broadly within the staffing total that we currently have. I would add one thing, which is it was a valuable discipline for us to remain within that establishment number within the organisation as we analysed our capacity as a staffing body over the past three years. If we do adhere to the number of posts as the crucial measure, then we may miss out on some other benefits in terms of flexibility and developing our capacity as an organisation. So, what I would like to do is keep an eye on the total staffing budget as we move forward, and then we will report back to you annually and to the Public Accounts Committee as to how we need to vary that in moving forward.
Welsh: Rŷn ni wedi rhoi'r gyllideb at ei gilydd ar y sail ein bod ni'n aros o fewn, fwy neu lai, y cyfanswm staffio sydd gyda ni nawr. Byddwn i yn ychwanegu un peth, sef mi oedd e'n ddisgyblaeth werthfawr i ni i gadw o fewn uchafswm swyddi o fewn y sefydliad wrth inni ddadansoddi ein capasiti ni fel corff staffio yn ystod y dair mlynedd ddiwethaf. Os rŷn ni'n glynu at nifer y swyddi fel y mesur hollbwysig, yna mae'n bosib ein bod ni'n colli rhai manteision eraill o hyblygrwydd a datblygu'n capasiti ni fel corff. Felly, beth fyddem ni'n hoffi ei wneud yw cadw'n llygaid ni ar gyfanswm y bil staffio, fel petai, y gyllideb staffio, wrth symud ymlaen, ac wedyn mi fyddwn ni'n adrodd nôl i chi bob blwyddyn ac i'r Pwyllgor Cyfrifon Cyhoeddus ar sut mae angen amrywio hynny wrth symud ymlaen.
English: I understand the point that you're making. The question I have, if truth be told, is: in looking back over the period that you will be covering in your correspondence before too long, how is that experience of striking a balance between the numbers and the skills mix that you have within your staff being reflected for next year? That's what I was driving at.
Welsh: Dwi'n deall y pwynt rydych chi'n ei wneud. Hynny yw, y cwestiwn sydd gyda fi mewn gwirionedd yw: o edrych yn ôl ar y cyfnod byddwch chi'n cyfathrebu arno yn eich gohebiaeth cyn bo hir, sut mae'r profiad yna o daro cydbwysedd rhwng y niferoedd a'r cymysgedd sgiliau sydd gyda chi o fewn y staff yn cael ei adlewyrchu yn y flwyddyn nesaf i ddod? Dyna beth roeddwn ni'n trio ei ofyn.
English: I do think that our experience has been positive over the past six months. We have been able to keep operating and support the Senedd in its chosen means of operation over a very unusual time. I would say that it wouldn't be responsible for me to recommend that we would reduce our staffing levels any further. I think we've reached the boundaries of what's sustainable in terms of the demands on staff. Therefore, we will be looking at maintaining that skills mix into the next financial year. We do know that we have certain areas that will be challenging. Looking to next year, we will need some specialist resources towards the end of this year and the beginning of next year to deal with exiting the European Union and the work arising from that. But we are looking at all sorts of ways of accessing external resources where necessary, if it is just a matter of short-term expansions in order to provide you with the services that you need as Members.
Welsh: Dwi'n meddwl bod ein profiad ni yn un cadarnhaol o safbwynt y chwe mis diwethaf. Rŷn ni wedi gallu cadw i fynd a chefnogi'r Senedd yn ei dewis ffurf o weithredu drwy gyfnod hynod o anarferol. Byddwn i yn dweud dydw i ddim yn teimlo y byddai fe'n gyfrifol i ni fod yn argymell ein bod ni'n lleihau ein hadnoddau staff ni pellach. Dwi'n meddwl ein bod ni wedi cyrraedd ffiniau yr hyn sy'n gynaliadwy o safbwynt y gofynion sydd ar staff. Felly, mi fyddwn ni yn edrych ar ffyrdd o gynnal y gymysgedd yna i fewn i'r flwyddyn ariannol nesaf. Rŷn ni'n gwybod bod gyda ni rai mannau sydd yn mynd i fod yn heriol, rhai meysydd sydd yn mynd i fod yn heriol. Yn edrych ar y flwyddyn nesaf, mi fydd angen tipyn o adnoddau arbenigol arnom ni, er enghraifft, tuag at ddiwedd eleni a dechrau blwyddyn nesaf i ddelio efo gadael yr Undeb Ewropeaidd a'r gwaith fydd yn deillio o hynny. Ond rŷn ni'n edrych ar bob math o ffyrdd o allu cael mynediad at adnoddau allanol lle bod angen, os yw jest yn fater o ehangu yn y byr dymor i roi'r gwasanaethau sydd angen arnoch chi fel Aelodau.
English: Yes, and I think what you said at the very outset in terms of staff having problems in taking their leave also tells us something, and that's a very clear message, if anything. Sorry, Nick.
Welsh: Ie, a dwi'n meddwl bod yr hyn ddywedoch chi reit ar gychwyn y cyfarfod ynglŷn â'r diffyg cyfle i gymryd amser bant gan staff yn dweud rhywbeth wrthym ni hefyd, onid yw e, yn glir ac yn uchel, os rhywbeth. Sori, Nick.
English: 'I'm not sure' is the honest answer because we have missed some opportunities during the year, opportunities such as the Eisteddfod and the Royal Welsh and so on - possibly the usuals that you mentioned in your previous response. But, for me, I'm eager to understand the Commission's objectives when it comes to engagement and communication. What's the message and what's its purpose and how is that reflected in the budget that we're discussing? For example, I see the point and the purpose in having a bus travelling around the country, as was, communicating messages about what the Senedd does. I'm more than happy with that. But, I think it's more valuable for the Commission to start to invest in promoting the reports of the Senedd's committees - what's the work of the Senedd, what happens in Plenary, what happens when we meet as committees. And I do want to see where that balance sits and what the Commission's thinking is at the moment on the way forward.
Welsh: 'Dwi ddim yn siŵr' ydy'r ateb go iawn achos dŷn ni wedi colli rhai cyfleoedd yn ystod y flwyddyn, y cyfleoedd a fuasai wedi cael eu gwneud yn yr Eisteddfod a'r Sioe a phethau felly, ac efallai'r pethau arferol y gwnes di sôn amdanyn nhw yn dy ymateb blaenorol. Ond, i fi, dwi'n awyddus i ddeall beth yw amcanion y Comisiwn pan mae'n dod i ymgysylltu a chyfathrebu. Beth ydy'r neges a beth ydy'r pwrpas a sut mae hynny'n cael ei adlewyrchu yn y gyllideb, wedyn - y gyllideb dŷn ni'n ei thrafod? Er enghraifft, dwi'n gweld pwrpas, y pwynt o gael carafán neu beth bynnag oedd e - bws, dwi'n meddwl - yn mynd o gwmpas y wlad yn trosglwyddo neu'n cyfathrebu negeseuon amboutu beth mae'r Senedd yn ei wneud. Dwi'n hapus iawn gyda hynny. Ond, dwi'n meddwl ei fod yn fwy gwerthfawr i'r Comisiwn, efallai, i ddechrau buddsoddi yn adroddiadau pwyllgorau'r Senedd - beth ydy gwaith y Senedd, beth sy'n digwydd yn Plenary, beth sy'n digwydd pan dŷn ni'n cyfarfod fel pwyllgorau. Dwi eisiau gweld ble mae cydbwysedd y Comisiwn a beth mae'r Comisiwn yn meddwl ar hyn o bryd amboutu'r ffordd ymlaen.
English: Okay. I'm grateful for that. Perhaps we could ask the Commission to write to us with the details that Suzy and Manon have outlined in their responses this afternoon, so that we could actually understand what that means in real terms. And I'm also very pleased that Manon mentioned people who don't live in the digital world as some tend to do. I represent a constituency where there isn't much - well, no, that's not quite the case - but not everyone has the same access to the digital world as others, and there is a percentage of the population, those who are older, over 70 perhaps, who don't have the same kind of access. And, of course, there is an issue around poverty too, where people can't afford to buy the broadband packages that everyone's talking about. So, I am very interested in the way we operate this policy, that we look across the whole population rather than going down a path where we are simply targeting one group of people.
Welsh: Ocê. Dwi'n ddiolchgar am hynny. Efallai bydd e'n hwylus i ofyn i'r Comisiwn ysgrifennu atom ni gyda'r manylion rwyt ti a Manon wedi'u disgrifio yn y ddau ateb y prynhawn yma, i ni actually deall beth mae hynny'n meddwl mewn termau real. Dwi'n falch iawn hefyd fod Manon wedi sôn amboutu pobl sydd ddim yn byw yn y byd digidol fel mae rhai yn tueddu ei wneud. Dwi'n cynrychioli etholaeth ble does dim lot - dyw hynny ddim yn wir - dyw pawb ddim yn cael yr un access i'r byd digidol ag eraill, ac mae yna ganran o'r boblogaeth, y rhai sydd yn hŷn, dros eu 70, sydd ddim yn cael yr un fath o fynediad. A hefyd, wrth gwrs, mae yna rywbeth amboutu tlodi hefyd lle y gall pobl ddim fforddio prynu'r pecynnau broadband yma mae pobl yn sôn amdanyn nhw. Felly, dwi'n awyddus iawn yn y ffordd dŷn ni yn gweithredu'r polisïau yma, ein bod ni'n edrych ar draws y boblogaeth a ddim yn mynd lawr y llwybr lle dŷn ni'n targedu un grŵp o bobl.