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English: We understand your microphone is currently not working, Jack. Do you want to hang on a second, please?
Welsh: Rydym yn deall nad yw eich microffon yn gweithio ar hyn o bryd, Jack. A wnewch chi aros am eiliad, os gwelwch yn dda?
English: No problem, Presiding Officer.
Welsh: Dim problem, Lywydd.
English: Can we just check?
Welsh: A gawn ni edrych i weld?
English: Are we back on?
Welsh: A yw'n gweithio nawr?
English: Yes, it's back on now, Jack.
Welsh: Ydy, mae'n gweithio nawr, Jack.
English: Thank you. Sam Rowlands.
Welsh: Diolch. Sam Rowlands.
English: Diolch yn fawr, Deputy Presiding Officer. Can I thank all Members for their contributions today, particularly Vikki Howells, who spoke about the devastating impact of losing her student, Daniel, and the devastating impact on the community and wider community that had? Just touching on Huw Irranca-Davies and Sam Rowlands, as the Minister has said there, I too will be keen to work. I think I've already put on the record in a committee that I will meet with the outdoor activity sector cross-party group to discuss the report and perhaps where we can take that further. My thanks to Luke Fletcher and Joel James, again highlighting the importance of the evidence that we received in putting this report together, but also I think Luke was suggesting that this is just one more step in the right direction for campaigners like Leeanne, and we all have a duty, whether we're in Government or Members of the Senedd, to publish and promote those messages. Minister, I'm extremely grateful to you and your officials for engaging and accepting this report and agreeing with this report in the way that you have. Just to conclude, Deputy Presiding Officer, I can see time is up, but I do want to pay one final tribute, just this last time to Leeanne Bartley, her husband David, and everyone who signed this petition and who helped us along the way. This again demonstrates the importance of the Senedd Petitions Committee, and I would encourage everyone who wants to change policy to consider signing or submitting a petition. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Ddirprwy Lywydd. A gaf fi ddiolch i'r holl Aelodau am eu cyfraniadau heddiw, yn enwedig Vikki Howells, a soniodd am effaith ddinistriol colli ei disgybl, Daniel, a'r effaith ddinistriol a gafodd hynny ar y gymuned a'r gymuned ehangach? Os caf gyffwrdd â sylwadau Huw Irranca-Davies a Sam Rowlands, fel y mae'r Gweinidog wedi'i ddweud, byddaf innau hefyd yn awyddus i weithio. Credaf fy mod eisoes wedi cofnodi mewn pwyllgor y byddaf yn cyfarfod â grŵp trawsbleidiol y sector gweithgareddau awyr agored i drafod yr adroddiad, a lle gallwn fynd â hynny ymhellach efallai. Diolch i Luke Fletcher a Joel James am dynnu sylw unwaith eto at bwysigrwydd y dystiolaeth a gawsom wrth lunio'r adroddiad hwn, ond credaf hefyd fod Luke yn awgrymu mai un cam arall yn unig yw hwn i'r cyfeiriad cywir i ymgyrchwyr fel Leeanne, a'i bod yn ddyletswydd ar bob un ohonom, yn y Llywodraeth neu fel Aelodau o'r Senedd, i gyhoeddi a hyrwyddo'r negeseuon hynny. Weinidog, rwy'n hynod ddiolchgar i chi a'ch swyddogion am ymgysylltu a derbyn yr adroddiad hwn a chytuno â'r adroddiad yn y ffordd y gwnaethoch. I gloi, Ddirprwy Lywydd, gallaf weld bod yr amser ar ben, ond hoffwn dalu un deyrnged olaf i Leeanne Bartley, ei gŵr David, a phawb a lofnododd y ddeiseb hon ac a'n helpodd ar hyd y daith. Mae hyn eto'n dangos pwysigrwydd Pwyllgor Deisebau'r Senedd, a byddwn yn annog pawb sydd am newid polisi i ystyried llofnodi neu gyflwyno deiseb. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
English: The proposal is to note the committee's report. Does any Member object? No, and the motion is therefore agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid nodi adroddiad y pwyllgor? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Nac oes, felly derbynnir y cynnig yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36.
English: Item 8, debate on the Climate Change, Environment, and Infrastructure Committee report, 'Report on operation of the interim environmental protection measures'. I call on the Chair of the committee to move the motion. Llyr Gruffydd.
Welsh: Eitem 8, dadl ar adroddiad y Pwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, yr Amgylchedd, a Seilwaith, 'Adroddiad ar weithrediad y mesurau interim diogelu'r amgylchedd'. Galwaf ar Gadeirydd y pwyllgor i wneud y cynnig. Llyr Gruffydd.
English: In summary, this Welsh Government still has a long way to go in providing reassurance to the environmental sector with the leadership, the direction and certainty that they need. For the sake of future generations, we urgently need a proper framework in place. Diolch.
Welsh: I grynhoi, mae gan y Llywodraeth hon ffordd bell i fynd o hyd i ddarparu sicrwydd i'r sector amgylcheddol gyda'r arweinyddiaeth, y cyfeiriad a'r sicrwydd sydd ei angen arnynt. Er lles cenedlaethau'r dyfodol, mae angen fframwaith priodol ar waith ar frys. Diolch.
English: Thank you to the Chair, to all committee members and the interim assessor - I can't remember what the Welsh term for that is, I'm sorry.
Welsh: Diolch i'r Cadeirydd a diolch i bawb yn y pwyllgor ac i'r interim assessor - rwyf i'n methu cofio beth ydy hwnna'n Gymraeg, mae'n flin gen i.
English: Diolch, Llywydd. I too would like to begin by thanking the committee and Chair for their work and for the recent report on the interim environmental governance arrangements. I think the committee's report is well considered and balanced, and I'm very pleased to confirm that the Government accepts all of its recommendations. I would also like to take this opportunity to express my gratitude to Dr Nerys Llewelyn Jones for the valuable work that she has done as the interim environmental protection assessor for Wales over the last 20 months. I am particularly pleased with how she has reached out to a broad range of stakeholders to facilitate important conversations about the functioning of environmental law in Wales. One of the most important aspects of the interim assessor role is being a champion of robust environmental protection measures - an element of her role where Dr Llewelyn Jones, I think everyone would agree, has absolutely excelled. Over the past months, the interim assessor has hosted a number of stakeholder events aimed at gathering evidence on important environmental issues in Wales. These include hosting a panel discussion on the legal protection of hedgerows and a recent stakeholder round-table on the protected sites legislation in Wales. I very much look forward to seeing the recommendations resulting from these conversations, and just to confirm, Llyr, that we absolutely will be responding to them in the normal way.
Welsh: Diolch, Lywydd. Hoffwn innau ddechrau hefyd drwy ddiolch i'r pwyllgor a'r Cadeirydd am eu gwaith ac am yr adroddiad diweddar ar y trefniadau llywodraethu amgylcheddol interim. Rwy'n credu bod adroddiad y pwyllgor yn ystyrlon a chytbwys, ac rwy'n falch iawn o gadarnhau bod y Llywodraeth yn derbyn ei holl argymhellion. Hoffwn fanteisio ar y cyfle hwn hefyd i ddiolch o galon i Dr Nerys Llewelyn Jones am y gwaith gwerthfawr y mae wedi'i wneud fel asesydd interim diogelu'r amgylchedd ar gyfer Cymru dros yr 20 mis diwethaf. Rwy'n arbennig o falch o'r ffordd y mae wedi estyn allan at ystod eang o randdeiliaid i hwyluso sgyrsiau pwysig am weithrediad y gyfraith amgylcheddol yng Nghymru. Un o'r agweddau pwysicaf ar rôl yr asesydd interim yw bod yn hyrwyddwr mesurau diogelu'r amgylchedd cadarn - rwy'n meddwl y byddai pawb yn cytuno bod honno'n elfen o'i swyddogaeth lle mae Dr Llewelyn Jones wedi rhagori'n llwyr. Dros y misoedd diwethaf, mae'r asesydd interim wedi cynnal nifer o ddigwyddiadau i randdeiliaid gyda'r nod o gasglu tystiolaeth ar faterion amgylcheddol pwysig yng Nghymru. Mae'r rhain yn cynnwys cynnal trafodaeth banel ar ddiogelu gwrychoedd yn gyfreithiol a bwrdd crwn i randdeiliaid yn ddiweddar ar ddeddfwriaeth safleoedd gwarchodedig yng Nghymru. Edrychaf ymlaen yn fawr at weld yr argymhellion a fydd yn deillio o'r sgyrsiau hyn, a dim ond i gadarnhau, Llyr, y byddwn yn bendant yn ymateb iddynt yn y ffordd arferol.
English: I thank the Minister for giving way. Whilst we hate delay, one of the advantages is that we can look not only at Conference of the Parties 15 now, but also at what has happened elsewhere in the UK. Janet made the point that, yes, there are other governance structures that have been put in place in the UK, but they haven't been without criticism. So, if you can also give us the guarantee that you'll have a look at those, and when you come in front of the committee, we'll ask you questions about how you've learnt from them as well.
Welsh: Diolch i'r Gweinidog am ildio. Er ein bod yn casáu oedi, un o'r manteision yw y gallwn edrych nid yn unig ar Gynhadledd y Partïon 15 nawr, ond hefyd ar yr hyn sydd wedi digwydd mewn mannau eraill yn y DU. Fe wnaeth Janet y pwynt, do, fod yna strwythurau llywodraethu eraill sydd wedi cael eu rhoi ar waith yn y DU, ond nid ydynt wedi bod yn rhydd o feirniadaeth. Felly, os gallwch chi hefyd roi gwarant inni y byddwch yn edrych ar y rheini, a phan ddowch o flaen y pwyllgor, byddwn yn gofyn cwestiynau i chi ynglŷn â sut rydych chi wedi dysgu ganddynt hwy hefyd.
English: Thank you very much, Llywydd, and thank you to everyone who's contributed to the debate. A particular thanks to the Minister for her positive response in responding to the debate, which was also reflected in the fact that the recommendations have been accepted in full, and we appreciate that.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Lywydd, a diolch i bawb sydd wedi cyfrannu i'r drafodaeth. Diolch yn arbennig i'r Gweinidog am ei hymateb cadarnhaol, nawr, wrth ymateb i'r ddadl, ond hefyd wedi'i adlewyrchu yn y ffaith bod yr argymhellion wedi'u derbyn yn llawn - rŷn ni'n gwerthfawrogi hynny.
English: I'm going to say this in a positive way - please don't think I'm trying to make a broader point - but having a Brexiteer bemoan the loss of EU environmental governance and EU environmental protections should be seen as a positive thing, Minister, because we are where we are - you know, we're not revisiting that - but it shows that there's political unanimity behind you in moving on this. Maybe Government should have been awake to that earlier on and maybe had more confidence in moving sooner, because, of course, we've known for many, many years that this would need to be done. It isn't just now that we're coming to the conclusion that we need a permanent body; we've known for three, four or five years. Yes, there have been circumstances that have militated against the actions that many of us - yourself included, I'm sure, Minister - would have liked to have seen, and I accept, a well, the point made about, 'Actually, let's make that work, then, in our favour; let's learn the lessons and use the opportunity to incorporate other things that, maybe, we would have been oblivious to at that point'. So, I appreciate that the question isn't whether the Government, or any of us, want to move on this, it's 'When are we going to do it?' When are we finally going to get going on this and get it over the line?
Welsh: Rwy'n mynd i ddweud hyn mewn ffordd gadarnhaol - peidiwch â meddwl fy mod yn ceisio gwneud pwynt ehangach - ond dylai cael cefnogwr Bexit yn cwyno am golli llywodraethiant amgylcheddol yr UE ac amddiffyniadau amgylcheddol yr UE gael ei weld fel peth cadarnhaol, Weinidog, oherwydd rydym yn y sefyllfa rydym ynddi - wyddoch chi, nid ydym yn ailedrych ar hynny - ond mae'n dangos bod yna unfrydedd gwleidyddol y tu ôl i chi wrth ichi symud ar hyn. Efallai y dylai'r Llywodraeth fod wedi bod yn effro i hynny yn gynharach ac efallai y byddai ganddi fwy o hyder o fod wedi symud yn gynt, oherwydd, wrth gwrs, rydym wedi gwybod ers blynyddoedd lawer y byddai angen gwneud hyn. Nid nawr y down o'r casgliad fod angen corff parhaol arnom; rydym yn gwybod ers tair, pedair neu bum mlynedd. Do, cafwyd amgylchiadau sydd wedi milwrio yn erbyn y gweithredoedd y byddai llawer ohonom - chi eich hun hefyd, rwy'n siŵr, Weinidog - wedi hoffi eu gweld, ac rwy'n derbyn, wel, y pwynt a wnaed am, 'Gadewch inni wneud iddo weithio o'n plaid, felly; gadewch inni ddysgu'r gwersi a defnyddio'r cyfle i ymgorffori pethau eraill y byddem, efallai, yn anymwybodol ohonynt ar y pwynt hwnnw'. Felly, rwy'n derbyn nad mater o a yw'r Llywodraeth, neu unrhyw un ohonom, eisiau symud ar hyn ydyw, ond 'Pryd rydym yn mynd i'w wneud?' Pryd rydym ni o'r diwedd yn mynd i ddechrau symud ar hyn a'i gael ar waith?
English: I simply rise to join him in his acclamation of our committee colleague, Janet, because having that unanimity genuinely is a significant moment - it really is. If we're all agreed, across the Senedd Chamber, on the highest possible environmental governance and regulations to protect us, putting aside Brexit or whatever, my goodness, that's a good place to go forward behind the Minister. So, well done, Janet, as well as the Chair.
Welsh: Rwy'n codi i ymuno ag ef yn ei ganmoliaeth o'n cyd-aelodau ar y pwyllgor, Janet, oherwydd mae cael yr unfrydedd hwnnw'n foment arwyddocaol - ydy wir. Os ydym i gyd yn gytûn, ar draws Siambr y Senedd, ar y llywodraethu a'r rheoliadau amgylcheddol gorau posibl i'n diogelu, gan roi Brexit i'r naill ochr neu beth bynnag, mawredd, mae hwnnw'n lle da i fynd ymlaen ohono y tu ôl i'r Gweinidog. Felly, da iawn, Janet, yn ogystal â'r Gadair.
English: Yes, there we are. Well done. And that'll be on the record forever.
Welsh: Ie, dyna ni. Da iawn. A bydd hynny wedi'i gofnodi am byth.
English: And you'll have to stick at it.
Welsh: A bydd rhaid i chi gadw at hynny.
English: Yes. Thank you very much for that. [ Laughter.] I think the point made by Huw, actually - interim, yes; invaluable, no. We do want to say a hearty 'thank you' to the interim assessor for the work that she is doing. It is very much appreciated.
Welsh: Ie. Diolch yn fawr am hynny. [ Chwerthin.] Rwy'n meddwl mai'r pwynt a wnaed gan Huw, mewn gwirionedd - interim, ie; amhrisiadwy, na. Rydym eisiau dweud diolch o galon wrth yr asesydd interim am y gwaith y mae'n ei wneud. Mae'n cael ei werthfawrogi'n fawr.
English: It's an important point: we're not criticising the assessor here - to the contrary, in light of the capacity and the resources available to her, she is doing as much as we could expect and more, so we thank her for that. But I just want to conclude by saying that of course we as a committee will continue to scrutinise and be dissatisfied until we see legislation coming forward, and, of course, as part of that process,we will play a full part in ensuring that what we have at the end of the process will be as robust and muscular and effective and efficient as it can possibly be. I also want to echo my thanks to the assessor, but also to committee members for their work, to the stakeholders who contributed to the work, and also to our clerking team, who have been very supportive and a great support to us in undertaking this work. My thanks will be even greater to the Minister when we finally see legislation brought forward to this place. Thank you.
Welsh: Mae e'n bwynt pwysig: nid cerydd o'r asesydd sydd fan hyn - i'r gwrthwyneb, yng ngoleuni'r capasiti a'r adnoddau sydd ar gael iddi, mae hi'n gwneud cymaint ag y gallem ni ddisgwyl a mwy, felly diolch iddi hi am hynny. Ond dwi jest eisiau cloi drwy ddweud wrth gwrs y byddwn ni fel pwyllgor yn parhau i graffu ac i fod yn anniddig tan i ni weld bod deddfwriaeth yn dod ymlaen, ac, wrth gwrs, fel rhan o'r broses honno, mi fyddwn ni'n chwarae ein rhan yn llawn i sicrhau bod yr hyn fydd gennym ni ar ddiwedd y dydd mor gryf a mor gyhryog a mor effeithiol ac effeithlon ag y gallai fod. Dwi hefyd eisiau ategu fy niolch wrth gwrs i'r asesydd, ond hefyd i aelodau'r pwyllgor am eu gwaith nhw, i'r budd-ddeiliaid eraill a gyfrannodd i'r gwaith yma, a hefyd i'r tîm clercio yn y pwyllgor, sydd wedi bod yn gefnogol ac yn gefnogaeth fawr i ni wrth wneud y gwaith yma. Mi fydd fy niolch hyd yn oed yn fwy i'r Gweinidog pan welwn ni ddeddfwriaeth yn cael ei chyflwyno yn y lle yma. Diolch.
English: The proposal is to note the committee's report. Does any Member object? No. The motion is therefore agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn, felly, yw: a ddylid nodi adroddiad y pwyllgor? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Nac oes. Felly, mae'r cynnig yna wedi'i dderbyn.
English: Before we move to the next two debates, I want to reiterate comments that I made last week and remind Members that, where opposition groups use the time allocated to them to table two motions for 30-minute debates, guidance states that contributions during the debate should be limited to three minutes. I know Members can become frustrated by that fact. I'm going to ask the Business Committee, therefore, to revisit speaking times relative to the length of a debate and whether the use of 30-minute debates provides the Senedd with sufficient time to consider what are often significant topics. [Members of the Senedd: 'Hear, hear.'] We'll review this as a Business Committee early in the new year, and I've noted all your cheers on that basis, and I'll remember that.
Welsh: Cyn inni symud ymlaen at y ddwy ddadl nesaf, rwyf eisiau ailadrodd sylwadau a wneuthum yr wythnos diwethaf ac atgoffa'r Aelodau, lle mae grwpiau'r gwrthbleidiau'n defnyddio'r amser a ddyrannwyd iddynt i gyflwyno dau gynnig ar gyfer dadleuon 30 munud, mae'r canllawiau'n nodi y dylid cyfyngu cyfraniadau yn ystod y ddadl i dri munud. Rwy'n gwybod y gall Aelodau deimlo'n rhwystredig oherwydd y ffaith honno. Rwyf am ofyn i'r Pwyllgor Busnes, felly, i ailedrych ar amseroedd siarad mewn perthynas â hyd dadl ac i weld a yw'r defnydd o ddadleuon 30 munud yn rhoi digon o amser i'r Senedd ystyried yr hyn sy'n aml yn bynciau sylweddol. [Aelodau'r Senedd: 'Clywch, clywch.'] Byddwn yn adolygu hyn fel Pwyllgor Busnes yn gynnar yn y flwyddyn newydd, ac rwyf wedi nodi eich cymeradwyaeth ar y sail honno, ac fe gofiaf hynny.
English: So, thank you, therefore.
Welsh: Diolch i chi, felly.
English: We'll move on now to item 9.
Welsh: Symudwn ymlaen yn awr at eitem 9.
English: Item 9 is the debate on an independent review of children's social care, and I call on Gareth Davies to move the motion.
Welsh: Eitem 9 yw'r ddadl ar adolygiad annibynnol o ofal cymdeithasol plant, a dwi'n galw ar Gareth Davies i wneud y cynnig.
English: I have selected the amendment to the motion, and I call on the Deputy Minister for Social Services to move formally that amendment.
Welsh: Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliant i'r cynnig, a dwi'n galw ar y Dirprwy Weinidog Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol i gynnig y gwelliant hwnnw yn ffurfiol.
English: Thank you, Llywydd, and thank you to the Conservatives for bringing this debate forward today.
Welsh: Diolch, Llywydd, a diolch i'r Ceidwadwyr am roddi'r ddadl yma gerbron.
English: My apologies. I hadn't intended to speak in this debate, but I've read the report in great detail, and there are definitely criticisms of Bridgend social services. There's also observation, from the care inspectorate, that measures have been taken already to respond to those. What there is also criticism of is many other agencies, including the inability of nursing staff in Cwm Taf Morgannwg University Health Board to challenge authority above that. I listened to the previous debate on this as well, and found that was not being raised, so can we comprehensively look at the contributory factors? Because I think Ben Mwangi, in Logan's memory, deserves the whole picture of this, not just focusing on one stakeholder within this. Criticism as there was, there was a wide range of failures.
Welsh: Mae'n ddrwg gennyf. Nid oeddwn wedi bwriadu siarad yn y ddadl hon, ond rwyf wedi darllen yr adroddiad yn fanwl iawn, ac yn bendant mae yna feirniadaeth o wasanaethau cymdeithasol Pen-y-bont ar Ogwr. Hefyd, mae'r arolygiaeth gofal yn gwneud y sylw fod mesurau eisoes wedi'u cymryd i ymateb i'r rheini. Mae nifer o asiantaethau eraill wedi cael eu beirniadu hefyd, gan gynnwys anallu staff nyrsio ym Mwrdd Iechyd Prifysgol Cwm Taf Morgannwg i herio'r awdurdod. Gwrandewais ar y ddadl flaenorol ar hyn hefyd, a chanfod nad oedd hynny'n cael ei godi, felly a gawn ni edrych yn gynhwysfawr ar y ffactorau cyfrannol? Oherwydd rwy'n credu bod Ben Mwangi, er cof am Logan, yn haeddu'r darlun llawn ar hyn, yn hytrach na chanolbwyntio ar un rhanddeiliad yn unig. Roedd yna feirniadaeth o amrywiaeth eang o fethiannau.
English: Thank you very much. Thanks. - the tragic result of which allowed a young boy to be murdered by the very people supposed to look after and nurture him. The Deputy Minister has said that lessons will be learned from this tragedy, but I'm not convinced that they will, or that the same thing is not going to happen in other local authorities in my region or across Wales. The only way we can truly learn from this tragedy and ensure nothing like it ever happens again is to hold a root-and-branch inquiry into social services. Only then can people in Bridgend and across this nation be confident that children's social care is fit for purpose. Thank you very much.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Diolch. - gyda'r canlyniad trasig a ganiataodd i fachgen ifanc gael ei lofruddio gan yr union bobl a oedd i fod i ofalu amdano a'i feithrin. Mae'r Dirprwy Weinidog wedi dweud y bydd gwersi'n cael eu dysgu o'r drasiedi hon, ond nid wyf wedi cael fy argyhoeddi fod hyn yn wir, ac nid wyf wedi cael fy argyhoeddi na fydd yr un peth yn digwydd mewn awdurdodau lleol eraill yn fy rhanbarth i neu ledled Cymru. Yr unig ffordd y gallwn ni ddysgu'n iawn o'r drasiedi hon a sicrhau nad oes dim byd tebyg yn digwydd eto yw cynnal ymchwiliad o'r bôn i'r brig i'r gwasanaethau cymdeithasol. Dim ond wedyn y gall pobl ym Mhen-y-bont ac ar draws y wlad hon fod yn hyderus fod gofal cymdeithasol plant yn addas i'r diben. Diolch yn fawr iawn.
English: Diolch. I'll start by thanking the Welsh Conservatives for bringing forward this motion today, and also by thanking the Members for their contributions to the debate. I mean, this is such an important topic, and I know this is something where the concern is shared across the whole of the Chamber. Welsh Ministers are committed to protecting and supporting the health and well-being of all children and young people in Wales, and the murder of Logan has quite rightly prompted discussion and focus on child protection in Wales. That's why I delivered an oral statement in Plenary last week, following the publication of the child practice review, arising from what is a very shocking event. As part of my oral statement, I reiterated that I was convinced that now is not the time for an independent review of children's services in Wales, and I do remain of this view. And whilst Members have continued to call for a review, the argument to conduct such a review has simply not been made, in the Government's view. I know that Members have referred to the fact that other parts of the UK have done so, but I think there's no reason for us to do it just because other parts of the UK have had reviews. Services and structures in England and Scotland are different -
Welsh: Diolch. Rwyf am ddechrau drwy ddiolch i'r Ceidwadwyr Cymreig am gyflwyno'r cynnig hwn heddiw, a hefyd drwy ddiolch i'r Aelodau am eu cyfraniadau i'r ddadl. Hynny yw, mae hwn yn bwnc mor bwysig, ac rwy'n gwybod bod hwn yn rhywbeth lle mae'r pryder yn cael ei rannu ar draws y Siambr gyfan. Mae Gweinidogion Cymru wedi ymrwymo i ddiogelu a chefnogi iechyd a llesiant pob plentyn a pherson ifanc yng Nghymru, ac mae llofruddiaeth Logan wedi ysgogi trafodaeth a ffocws cwbl briodol ar amddiffyn plant yng Nghymru. Dyna pam y rhoddais ddatganiad ar lafar yn y Cyfarfod Llawn yr wythnos diwethaf, yn dilyn cyhoeddi'r adolygiad ymarfer plant, o ganlyniad i'r digwyddiad ysgytwol hwn. Fel rhan o fy natganiad llafar, ailadroddais fy mod yn argyhoeddedig nad nawr yw'r amser i gael adolygiad annibynnol o wasanaethau plant yng Nghymru, ac rwy'n parhau i gredu hynny. Ac er bod Aelodau wedi parhau i alw am adolygiad, nid yw'r ddadl dros gynnal adolygiad o'r fath wedi cael ei gwneud, ym marn y Llywodraeth. Rwy'n gwybod bod Aelodau wedi cyfeirio at y ffaith bod rhannau eraill o'r DU wedi gwneud hynny, ond nid yw'r ffaith bod rhannau eraill o'r DU wedi cael adolygiadau'n ddigon o reswm i ni wneud yr un peth. Mae gwasanaethau a strwythurau yn Lloegr a'r Alban yn wahanol -