English: Diolch. Well, firstly, thank you very much to Mike Hedges for your support for this proposal. As he said, deaf communities use BSL as their main means of communication and, for deaf communities, this is an important piece of legislation. Thank you to Laura Anne Jones for her comments. As she said, this would bring a positive change in BSL in education. She highlighted the increase in numbers of people using BSL, the need to adapt to using BSL in public services and daily life, and the need to allow students to take qualifications through the medium of BSL. Joel James - again, thank you for your contribution - hopes, as do I, that the BSL Bill will eventually be introduced in Wales to help deaf people, to empower deaf people and to remove barriers that they identify. As he said, the Act would have profound positive impacts on marginalised deaf people, including access to healthcare provision, and he explained that currently, the lack of support is impacting on mental health and well-being amongst deaf people, which is six times higher than in the general population. Thank you to the Minister for her comments. As she said, it's important that all deaf people should have access to information and services. The Minister referred to the 'Locked out' report and disability rights taskforce. She may recall that, during the first months of lockdown, I was approached by the Royal National Institute for Deaf People, the Royal National Institute of Blind People, Guide Dogs Cymru and I had meetings online with groups of adults with learning disabilities, and they identified the barriers that they had encountered since lockdown, which hadn't been designed in from the beginning of the changes introduced post lockdown, because there weren't duties on Ministers or other public bodies in Wales to do this proactively, to co-produce these things automatically. And the Minister did attend, when I raised this, the cross-party group on disability, and did attend the Equality and Social Justice Committee when I also raised this, and did respond, but I hope that the Minister would agree that it shouldn't have happened in the first place. We shouldn't have had to get to that point. And that's what this Bill seeks to do, at least for d/Deaf people and BSL users. We welcome the audit that the BDA have been doing for the Welsh Government on these matters. Of course, the BDA have been keeping me informed, and the cross-party group on deaf issues informed of this throughout. Despite that, they're supporting my proposal for a Bill and, in fact, today's motion was crafted with them, ensuring that the views of the people they represent are articulated within it. The Minister referred to the need for - I'll finish with this - BSL interpreters. I remember, during my first term, your second term, you had a programme of BSL interpreters, and a lot more people were brought in and trained up to a high level, but it's not working now. There are huge shortages, exemplified by the fact that, last week, I asked the Senedd to provide a simultaneous translation for this debate. And I know from the communications that I've had that there are a lot of very upset deaf people outside this Senedd who wanted to follow this debate live, who feel that we have breached our duties under the social model of disability and the Equality Act 2010 to them, and they will have to tune in separately later to see if they can look at a subsequent translation. I regret that that's happened. But notwithstanding that, I welcome the support that we've heard from the few speakers today. I wish we'd had longer to debate this. And, please, please, Members, I urge you to allow this, at least in principle, to go forward, adding to the positive vote that we had in February last year. Diolch yn fawr.
Welsh: Diolch. Wel, yn gyntaf, diolch yn fawr iawn i Mike Hedges am eich cefnogaeth i'r cynnig hwn. Fel y dywedodd, mae cymunedau byddar yn defnyddio BSL fel eu prif ddull o gyfathrebu ac i gymunedau byddar, mae'r ddeddfwriaeth hon yn bwysig. Diolch i Laura Anne Jones am ei sylwadau. Fel y dywedodd, byddai hyn yn creu newid cadarnhaol ar gyfer BSL mewn addysg. Tynnodd sylw at y cynnydd yn nifer y bobl sy'n defnyddio BSL, yr angen i addasu i ddefnyddio BSL mewn gwasanaethau cyhoeddus a bywyd bob dydd, a'r angen i ganiatáu i fyfyrwyr gael cymwysterau drwy gyfrwng BSL. Mae Joel James - eto, diolch am eich cyfraniad - yn gobeithio, fel rwyf innau, y bydd y Bil BSL yn cael ei gyflwyno yng Nghymru yn y pen draw i helpu pobl fyddar, i rymuso pobl fyddar ac i gael gwared ar rwystrau a nodir ganddynt. Fel y dywedodd, byddai'r Ddeddf yn cael effeithiau cadarnhaol iawn ar bobl fyddar sydd ar y cyrion, gan gynnwys mynediad at ddarpariaeth gofal iechyd, ac esboniodd fod y diffyg cymorth ar hyn o bryd yn effeithio ar broblemau iechyd meddwl a lles meddyliol ymhlith pobl fyddar, sydd chwe gwaith yn uwch nag yn y boblogaeth gyffredinol. Diolch i'r Gweinidog am ei sylwadau. Fel y dywedodd, mae'n bwysig fod pob unigolyn byddar yn cael mynediad at wybodaeth a gwasanaethau. Cyfeiriodd y Gweinidog at yr adroddiad 'Drws ar Glo' a'r tasglu hawliau pobl anabl. Efallai y bydd yn cofio, yn ystod misoedd cyntaf y cyfyngiadau symud, fod Sefydliad Cenedlaethol Brenhinol Pobl Fyddar a Thrwm eu Clyw, Sefydliad Cenedlaethol Brenhinol Pobl Ddall, Cŵn Tywys Cymru a minnau wedi cael cyfarfodydd ar-lein gyda grwpiau o oedolion ag anableddau dysgu, a nodwyd y rhwystrau roeddent wedi dod ar eu traws ers y cyfyngiadau symud na chynlluniwyd ar eu cyfer o ddechrau'r newidiadau a gyflwynwyd ar ôl y cyfyngiadau symud am nad oedd dyletswyddau ar Weinidogion na chyrff cyhoeddus eraill yng Nghymru i wneud hyn yn rhagweithiol, i gydgynhyrchu'r pethau hyn yn awtomatig. A phan godais hyn, fe fynychodd y Gweinidog y grŵp trawsbleidiol ar anabledd, ac fe wneuthum innau fynychu'r Pwyllgor Cydraddoldeb a Chyfiawnder Cymdeithasol pan godais hyn hefyd, ac fe wneuthum ymateb, ond rwy'n gobeithio y byddai'r Gweinidog yn cytuno na ddylai fod wedi digwydd yn y lle cyntaf. Ni ddylem fod wedi gorfod cyrraedd y pwynt hwnnw. A dyna beth mae'r Bil hwn yn ceisio ei wneud, ar gyfer pobl f/Fyddar a defnyddwyr BSL, o leiaf. Rydym yn croesawu'r archwiliad y bu Cymdeithas Pobl Fyddar Prydain yn ei wneud dros Lywodraeth Cymru ar y materion hyn. Wrth gwrs, mae'r Gymdeithas wedi bod yn rhoi gwybodaeth i mi a'r grŵp trawsbleidiol ar faterion byddar am hyn drwy gydol y broses. Er hynny, maent yn cefnogi fy nghynnig ar gyfer Bil ac mewn gwirionedd, cafodd cynnig heddiw ei saernïo gyda hwy, gan sicrhau bod safbwyntiau'r bobl y maent yn eu cynrychioli'n cael eu mynegi o'i fewn. Cyfeiriodd y Gweinidog at yr angen - fe wnaf orffen gyda hyn - am ddehonglwyr BSL. Rwy'n cofio, yn ystod fy nhymor cyntaf, eich ail dymor chi, roedd gennych raglen o ddehonglwyr BSL, a chafodd llawer mwy o bobl eu derbyn a'u hyfforddi i lefel uchel, ond nid yw'n gweithio nawr. Ceir prinder enfawr, fel y dangoswyd gan y ffaith fy mod, yr wythnos diwethaf, wedi gofyn i'r Senedd ddarparu cyfieithiad ar y pryd ar gyfer y ddadl hon. A gwn o'r cyfathrebiadau a gefais fod llawer o bobl fyddar gofidus iawn y tu allan i'r Senedd a oedd eisiau dilyn y ddadl hon yn fyw, sy'n teimlo ein bod wedi torri ein dyletswyddau iddynt o dan y model cymdeithasol o anabledd a Deddf Cydraddoldeb 2010, a bydd rhaid iddynt edrych i weld yn nes ymlaen a allant edrych ar gyfieithiad dilynol. Rwy'n gresynu at y ffaith bod hynny wedi digwydd. Ond er hynny, rwy'n croesawu'r gefnogaeth a glywsom gan yr ychydig siaradwyr heddiw. Hoffwn pe baem wedi cael mwy o amser i drafod hyn. Ac os gwelwch yn dda, Aelodau, rwy'n eich annog i ganiatáu i hyn ddigwydd, mewn egwyddor o leiaf, i ategu'r bleidlais gadarnhaol a gawsom ym mis Chwefror y llynedd. Diolch yn fawr.