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English: Thank you to James Evans for putting forward this debate. I'm pleased to see this discussion about public transport continuing, after my debate last week. It's a vitally important issue, for a number of reasons, and it's important to those communities that I represent here in the Senedd. I'd also like to thank the Deputy Minister for his response to my debate last week, and for confirming that the Welsh Government is considering the motion put forward by the Liberal Democrats to introduce free public transport for every young person under the age of 25.
Welsh: Diolch i James Evans am gyflwyno'r ddadl yma. Dwi'n falch o weld y drafodaeth am drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus yn parhau, ar ôl fy nadl yr wythnos diwethaf. Maen fater hollbwysig am nifer o resymau, ac yn hollbwysig i'r cymunedau hynny rydw i'n eu cynrychioli yma yn y Senedd. Hoffwn ddiolch i'r Dirprwy Weinidog hefyd am ei ymateb i fy nadl yr wythnos diwethaf, ac am gadarnhau bod Llywodraeth Cymru yn ystyried cynnig y Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol i gyflwyno trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus am ddim i bob person ifanc o dan 25.
English: So, I call on the Deputy Minister now, we've had enough talk, let's please see some actions. Diolch.
Welsh: Felly, galwaf ar y Dirprwy Weinidog yn awr, rydym wedi cael digon o siarad, gadewch inni weld rhywfaint o weithredu. Diolch.
English: Thank you, Hefin. No offence taken. I'm glad you used to use those buses; I wish more people would use public transport to help us reduce the climate crisis. But one question I would ask you: do you then agree that the Labour Government failed then, between 1997 and 2009, in not re-regulating the bus service, and Gordon Brown and Tony Blair both failed in this sphere?
Welsh: Diolch, Hefin. Nid wyf wedi digio. Rwy'n falch eich bod yn arfer defnyddio'r bysiau hynny; hoffwn pe bai mwy o bobl yn defnyddio trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus i'n helpu i leihau'r argyfwng hinsawdd. Ond un cwestiwn y byddwn yn ei ofyn i chi: a ydych yn cytuno felly fod y Llywodraeth Lafur wedi methu bryd hynny, rhwng 1997 a 2009, drwy beidio ag ail-reoleiddio'r gwasanaeth bws, a bod Gordon Brown a Tony Blair wedi methu yn hyn o beth?
English: Before I call the Deputy Minister, could I remind everyone that, as well as examples from Conservative and Labour Members and Liberal Democrats, there are Plaid Cymru Members also in this debate and I can see them on the screen, to be fair to all?
Welsh: Cyn imi alw ar y Dirprwy Weinidog, a gaf fi atgoffa pawb, yn ogystal ag enghreifftiau o blith Aelodau Ceidwadol a Llafur a'r Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol, fod Aelodau Plaid Cymru hefyd yn y ddadl hon a gallaf eu gweld ar y sgrin, i fod yn deg â phawb?
English: Thank you very much to the Members who've spoken and for bringing this debate. Again, I think we've shown in this Chamber cross-party concern and support for the plight of public transport and a will to improve it. I think that that is a precious thing that we should nurture. No doubt, we will disagree on some of the details and much of the debate has been spent on diagnosing who is to blame for past failures. But I think what we can all agree on is that it is through collective action that we can make things better, and I can assure Members that this Government is determined to do that. Jane Dodds did say that she was worried that bus policy is not being treated with the urgency it needs, and I can assure her that is not the case. We will be bringing forward a bus White Paper, 'Bus Cymru', in the coming months, and we're taking a bit of time to do it, because we are working genuinely collaboratively with local authorities and with operators to design something that is going to work.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn i'r Aelodau sydd wedi siarad a diolch iddynt am gyflwyno'r ddadl hon. Unwaith eto, credaf ein bod wedi dangos yn y Siambr hon fod yna gefnogaeth a phryder trawsbleidiol am drafferthion trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus ac ewyllys i'w gwella. Credaf ei fod yn beth gwerthfawr y dylem ei feithrin. Mae'n siŵr y byddwn yn anghytuno ar rai o'r manylion ac rydym wedi treulio llawer o'r ddadl yn ceisio penderfynu pwy sydd ar fai am fethiannau yn y gorffennol. Ond rwy'n credu y gallwn i gyd gytuno mai drwy weithredu ar y cyd y gallwn wella pethau, a gallaf sicrhau'r Aelodau bod y Llywodraeth hon yn benderfynol o wneud hynny. Dywedodd Jane Dodds ei bod yn poeni nad yw polisi bysiau'n cael ei drin â'r brys angenrheidiol, a gallaf ei sicrhau nad yw hynny'n wir. Byddwn yn cyflwyno Papur Gwyn ar fysiau, 'Bws Cymru', yn ystod y misoedd nesaf, ac rydym yn cymryd ychydig o amser i'w wneud, oherwydd rydym yn gweithio'n wirioneddol gydweithredol ag awdurdodau lleol a chyda gweithredwyr i gynllunio rhywbeth a fydd yn gweithio.
English: The proposal is to agree the motion without amendment. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] I see that there is objection, therefore I will defer voting on the motion until voting time.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Oes. Felly, gohiriaf y bleidlais ar yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I move this Welsh Conservative motion in the name of my colleague Darren Millar. I welcome this opportunity today to open this incredibly important debate at a critical time for education in Wales. I do find it concerning that the Welsh Conservatives have had to use their time allocation to talk about education as it's the only opportunity that we've had to highlight concerns to the Minister for education who, apart from the questions earlier, has been hiding behind written statements so far this year. With the restrictions remaining in place in our schools in Wales, unlike in England, it is arguably of paramount importance that, as a Senedd, we have the opportunity to scrutinise current restrictions and concerns in arguably one of, if not the most important responsibilities of this Government. The motion aims to highlight the adverse effect that COVID-19 and restrictions have had on children and young people across Wales and the persistent per-pupil funding shortfall between Wales and other parts of the UK. Crucially, this motion calls on the Welsh Government to take action to overcome the impact of the pandemic on Welsh learners. Deputy Presiding Officer, do I see a problem?
Welsh: Diolch, Ddirprwy Lywydd. Rwy'n cyflwyno'r cynnig hwn gan y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig yn enw fy nghyd-Aelod, Darren Millar. Rwy'n croesawu'r cyfle heddiw i agor y ddadl hynod bwysig hon ar adeg dyngedfennol i addysg yng Nghymru. Mae'n destun pryder fod y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig wedi gorfod defnyddio eu dyraniad amser i siarad am addysg gan mai dyma'r unig gyfle rydym wedi'i gael i ddwyn pryderon i sylw'r Gweinidog addysg sydd, ar wahân i'r cwestiynau yn gynharach, wedi bod yn cuddio y tu ôl i ddatganiadau ysgrifenedig hyd yn hyn eleni. Gyda'r cyfyngiadau'n parhau yn ein hysgolion yng Nghymru, yn wahanol i Loegr, gellid dadlau ei bod yn hollbwysig ein bod ni, fel Senedd, yn cael cyfle i graffu ar y cyfyngiadau a'r pryderon presennol mewn perthynas ag un o gyfrifoldebau pwysicaf y Llywodraeth hon, gellid dadlau, os nad y pwysicaf. Nod y cynnig yw tynnu sylw at yr effeithiau andwyol y mae COVID-19 a chyfyngiadau wedi'u cael ar blant a phobl ifanc ledled Cymru a'r diffyg parhaus mewn cyllid fesul disgybl yng Nghymru o gymharu â rhannau eraill o'r DU. Yn hollbwysig, mae'r cynnig hwn yn galw ar Lywodraeth Cymru i gymryd camau i oresgyn effaith y pandemig ar ddysgwyr Cymru. Ddirprwy Lywydd, a oes problem?
English: Yes, we haven't got the Minister, so I'd rather hold until we have the Minister.
Welsh: Oes, nid yw'r Gweinidog yn bresennol, felly byddai'n well gennyf aros nes y bydd y Gweinidog yn bresennol.
English: No worries. I could see by your face that something was wrong.
Welsh: Peidiwch â phoeni. Gallwn weld ar eich wyneb fod rhywbeth o'i le.
English: Yes, the Minister doesn't seem to be visible on my screen, so I want to make sure he's here to be taking in the full debate. Ah, here he comes. So, Laura, I'm going to ask you to start again. I'm sorry, but I think it's important that you start from the beginning so the Minister's in fully and up to date totally, okay.
Welsh: Ie, nid yw'n ymddangos bod y Gweinidog ar fy sgrin, felly rwyf eisiau sicrhau ei fod yma i glywed y ddadl lawn. A, dyma fe'n dod. Felly, Laura, rwyf am ofyn i chi ddechrau eto. Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, ond credaf ei bod yn bwysig eich bod yn dechrau o'r dechrau fel bod y Gweinidog yn clywed y cyfan, o'r gorau.
English: I have selected the amendments to the motion. If amendment 1 is agreed, amendments 2 and 3 will be deselected. I call on the Minister for Education and Welsh Language to formally move amendment 1 tabled in the name of Lesley Griffiths.
Welsh: Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliannau i'r cynnig. Os derbynnir gwelliant 1, caiff gwelliannau 2 a 3 eu dad-ddethol. Galwaf ar Weinidog y Gymraeg ac Addysg i gynnig yn ffurfiol gwelliant 1 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Lesley Griffiths.
English: I move formally the amendments tabled in the name of Siân Gwenllian. As is apparent from the motion and the two amendments, our three parties are agreed that we regret the detrimental impact that the COVID-19 restrictions have had on children and young people across Wales. It has been, and continues to be, a period of great uncertainty for all of them and it is important that we prioritise providing the vital support that they need. However, even though COVID has brought additional challenges, it is important today that we also acknowledge that things weren't perfect before the pandemic. Schools' budgets were already under pressure, and, as we all know, child poverty continues to be a pressing problem that impacts learners. And listening to Laura Jones talking about children being cold in the classrooms because of the need for ventilation, what about the role of UK Government now in terms of the fact that they are cold at home too? We've seen the shortfall in retaining that £20 uplift in universal credit and the rising cost of living. This is a wider problem. It's not just because of COVID, and there is a responsibility on the UK Government in terms of supporting our children here in Wales.
Welsh: Rwy'n cynnig yn ffurfiol y gwelliannau a gyflwynwyd yn enw Siân Gwenllian. Fel sydd yn amlwg o'r cynnig a'r ddau welliant, rydym fel tair Plaid yn gytûn ein bod yn gresynu at effaith andwyol cyfyngiadau COVID-19 ar blant a phobl ifanc ledled Cymru. Mae wedi bod, ac yn parhau i fod, yn gyfnod o ansicrwydd mawr iddynt oll ac mae'n bwysig ein bod yn blaenoriaethu a sicrhau y gefnogaeth angenrheidiol iddynt. Ond er bod COVID wedi dod â heriau ychwanegol, mae'n bwysig heddiw hefyd cydnabod nad oedd pethau'n berffaith cyn y pandemig. Roedd cyllidebau ysgolion wedi cael eu gwasgu, ac fel rydym i gyd yn gwybod, mae tlodi plant yn broblem enbyd sydd hefyd yn effeithio ar ddysgwyr. A rhaid cyfaddef, wrth wrando ar Laura Jones yn sôn am blant yn oer yn y dosbarth oherwydd yr angen am awyru ac ati, beth am rôl Llywodraeth y Deyrnas Unedig rŵan o ran y ffaith eu bod nhw'n oer gartref hefyd? Rydym wedi gweld y diffyg o ran cadw'r £20 ychwanegol yma o ran y credyd cynhwysol a'r costau byw cynyddol. Mae hon yn broblem ehangach. Dydy o ddim jest oherwydd COVID, ac mae yna gyfrifoldeb ar Lywodraeth y Deyrnas Unedig o ran cefnogi ein plant ni yma yng Nghymru hefyd.
English: I think there also needs to be some myth busting here regarding some of the claims in the Conservative motion. The motion notes a so-called 'persistent per pupil funding shortfall between Wales and other parts of the UK.' In 2018, Institute of Fiscal Studies analysis concluded that once London is discounted, there is virtually no difference in per-pupil funding between Wales and England. In terms of recovery funding, let's get our facts straight: the Welsh Government has allocated a further £38 million in 2022-23 for the education sector's response to the pandemic, which follows around £190 million in 2021-22 and £220 million in 2020-21. While this level of funding is less than what some experts warn is needed, the Education Policy Institute estimated in April 2021 that the Welsh Government needs to spend £600 million to £900 million. The EPI also reported in June 2021 that funding for COVID educational recovery per learner in Wales is the highest of the four UK nations. In this regard, the EPI wrote that total education recovery 'planned spending per pupil is currently highest in Wales (£400 per pupil), followed by England (£310 per pupil), whilst it is about £230 in Scotland and Northern Ireland.' So, some of the claims made in the Conservative motion are just false. While the Welsh Government could of course go much, much further, the funding is to be welcomed.
Welsh: Credaf fod angen herio rhai o'r honiadau yng nghynnig y Ceidwadwyr hefyd. Mae'r cynnig yn nodi 'diffyg parhaus o ran cyllid fesul disgybl yng Nghymru o'i chymharu â rhannau eraill o'r DU.' Yn 2018, daeth dadansoddiad y Sefydliad Astudiaethau Cyllid i'r casgliad nad oes fawr ddim gwahaniaeth rhwng Cymru a Lloegr, ac eithrio Llundain, o ran cyllid fesul disgybl. O ran cyllid adfer, gadewch inni gael y ffeithiau'n iawn: mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi dyrannu £38 miliwn pellach yn 2022-23 ar gyfer ymateb y sector addysg i'r pandemig, sy'n dilyn oddeutu £190 miliwn yn 2021-22 a £220 miliwn yn 2020-21. Er bod y lefel hon o gyllid yn llai na'r hyn y mae rhai arbenigwyr yn rhybuddio sydd ei hangen, amcangyfrifodd y Sefydliad Polisi Addysg ym mis Ebrill 2021 fod angen i Lywodraeth Cymru wario rhwng £600 miliwn a £900 miliwn. Nododd y Sefydliad Polisi Addysg hefyd ym mis Mehefin 2021 mai'r cyllid ar gyfer adferiad addysg ar ôl COVID fesul dysgwr yng Nghymru yw'r uchaf o bedair gwlad y DU. Yn hyn o beth, ysgrifennodd y Sefydliad Polisi Addysg mai 'yng Nghymru y mae'r gwariant a gynlluniwyd uchaf ar hyn o bryd ar adferiad addysg fesul disgybl (£400 y disgybl), ac yna Lloegr (£310 y disgybl), tra'i fod oddeutu £230 yn yr Alban a Gogledd Iwerddon.' Felly, mae rhai o'r honiadau a wneir yng nghynnig y Ceidwadwyr yn ffug. Er y gallai Llywodraeth Cymru, wrth gwrs, fynd ymhellach o lawer, mae'r cyllid i'w groesawu.
English: The pandemic and subsequent school closures have had a devastating effect on the mental health of children and young people. Parents have said that, among children and young people, suicidal thoughts, self-harm, eating disorders, excessive exercise and anxiety all started as a result of uncertainty about school life, school work, exams and fear during the pandemic. Children now need professional mental health help but are hampered by long waiting lists for appointments with child and adolescent mental health services. We know that the data shows that the waiting times are far too long. So, today, I would ask all of us to set aside any political point-scoring the original motion and the Government amendment may be trying to achieve and that we unite behind Plaid Cymru's amendments that recognise the crisis and commit us all to working together to find both short-term and long-term solutions to support our children and young people.
Welsh: Mae'r pandemig a chau ysgolion yn sgil hynny wedi cael effaith ddinistriol ar iechyd meddwl plant a phobl ifanc. Mae rhieni wedi dweud bod meddwl am hunanladdiad, hunan-niweidio, anhwylderau bwyta, ymarfer corff gormodol a gorbryder wedi dechrau ymhlith plant a phobl ifanc o ganlyniad i ansicrwydd ynglŷn â bywyd ysgol, gwaith ysgol, arholiadau ac ofn yn ystod y pandemig. Bellach, mae angen cymorth iechyd meddwl proffesiynol ar blant ond cânt eu rhwystro gan restrau aros hir am apwyntiadau gyda gwasanaethau iechyd meddwl plant a'r glasoed. Gwyddom fod y data'n dangos bod yr amseroedd aros yn rhy hir o lawer. Felly, heddiw, hoffwn ofyn i bob un ohonom anghofio unrhyw bwyntiau gwleidyddol y gallai'r cynnig gwreiddiol a gwelliant y Llywodraeth fod yn ceisio'u sgorio, ac uno y tu ôl i welliannau Plaid Cymru sy'n cydnabod yr argyfwng ac yn ymrwymo pob un ohonom i gydweithio i ddod o hyd i atebion yn y tymor byr ac yn hirdymor i gefnogi ein plant a'n pobl ifanc.
English: Okay. Just to say that it is completely untrue that Wales has lower funding. As the Labour motion points out, we are spending much more money on trying to repair the inevitable damage that has taken place amongst our children and we should all regret that. But the things that we need to do: employing more youth workers, employing more counsellors, ensuring that we are promoting play as a way of recovering from COVID are really important ways of helping young people and children recover from the appalling pandemic.
Welsh: Iawn. Dylwn ddweud ei bod yn gwbl anghywir fod gan Gymru lai o gyllid. Fel y mae cynnig Llafur yn ei nodi, rydym yn gwario mwy o arian o lawer ar geisio atgyweirio'r niwed anochel a ddigwyddodd ymhlith ein plant, a dylai hynny fod yn destun gofid i bob un ohonom. Ond mae'r pethau sydd angen inni eu gwneud, sef cyflogi mwy o weithwyr ieuenctid, cyflogi mwy o gwnselwyr a sicrhau ein bod yn hyrwyddo chwarae fel ffordd o wella yn sgil COVID yn ffyrdd hynod bwysig o helpu pobl ifanc a phlant i wella ar ôl y pandemig echrydus.
English: From the outset, it must be noted that there has been chronic underfunding from the Welsh Labour Government in our schools and education system. For every £1 spent in England, Wales receives £1.20. As a result, education spending per pupil in Wales should be at least £1,000 per annum more, compared to England. However, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies, every young person in Wales receives £100 less than their counterparts in England, mostly because of Welsh Government bureaucracy. As announced in the recent UK budget, the UK Conservative Government has committed to increasing the Welsh Government budget by £2.5 billion per year on average for the next three years. This is the largest annual funding settlement increase since devolution began and on top of an additional baseline funding of £1.9 billion, and let's hope that that money goes into our schools. Turning to the current restrictions in place in our education establishments, the lack of Welsh Government preparation is having a negative impact on the education of our children and young people in Wales. Welsh Conservatives would end the mandatory wearing of face masks in our schools. Masks in a classroom stop children and young people in Wales enjoying a normal experience in the classroom. It continues to stifle their development. The mental health of children has suffered enough -
Welsh: O'r cychwyn cyntaf, mae'n rhaid nodi bod Llywodraeth Lafur Cymru wedi tanariannu ein hysgolion a'n system addysg yn ddifrifol. Am bob £1 a werir yn Lloegr, mae Cymru'n cael £1.20. O ganlyniad, dylai gwariant addysg fesul disgybl yng Nghymru fod o leiaf £1,000 y flwyddyn yn fwy, o gymharu â Lloegr. Fodd bynnag, yn ôl y Sefydliad Astudiaethau Cyllid, mae pob unigolyn ifanc yng Nghymru yn derbyn £100 yn llai na'u cyfoedion yn Lloegr, yn bennaf oherwydd biwrocratiaeth Llywodraeth Cymru. Fel y cyhoeddwyd yng nghyllideb ddiweddar y DU, mae Llywodraeth Geidwadol y DU wedi ymrwymo i gynnydd o £2.5 biliwn y flwyddyn ar gyfartaledd i gyllideb Llywodraeth Cymru am y tair blynedd nesaf. Dyma'r cynnydd mwyaf yn y setliad cyllid blynyddol ers dechrau datganoli, a hynny ar ben cyllid sylfaenol ychwanegol o £1.9 biliwn, a gadewch inni obeithio y bydd yr arian hwnnw'n mynd i mewn i'n hysgolion. Gan droi at y cyfyngiadau presennol sydd ar waith yn ein sefydliadau addysg, mae diffyg paratoi gan Lywodraeth Cymru yn cael effaith negyddol ar addysg ein plant a'n pobl ifanc yng Nghymru. Byddai'r Ceidwadwyr Cymreig yn cael gwared ar fasgiau wyneb gorfodol yn ein hysgolion. Mae masgiau mewn ystafelloedd dosbarth yn atal plant a phobl ifanc yng Nghymru rhag mwynhau profiad normal yn yr ystafell ddosbarth. Maent yn parhau i lesteirio eu datblygiad. Mae iechyd meddwl plant wedi dioddef digon -
English: Yes, two seconds. Children in Wales deserve to live in an open and inclusive environment. I will take an intervention from Jenny Rathbone, yes.
Welsh: Iawn, dwy eiliad. Mae plant Cymru yn haeddu byw mewn amgylchedd agored a chynhwysol. Fe dderbyniaf ymyriad gan Jenny Rathbone, gwnaf.
English: Thank you, James. Did you not hear me when I said earlier: we need face masks in order to prevent COVID spreading in the classroom, both to fellow pupils and also to protect staff? Otherwise, we'll have the situation we've got in parts of England where there are just swathes and swathes of children and staff off with COVID.
Welsh: Diolch, James. Oni wnaethoch fy nghlywed pan ddywedais yn gynharach: mae angen masgiau wyneb arnom er mwyn atal COVID rhag lledaenu yn yr ystafell ddosbarth, i gyd-ddisgyblion a hefyd i ddiogelu staff? Fel arall, bydd gennym y sefyllfa sydd gennym mewn rhannau o Loegr lle mae nifer enfawr o blant a staff gartref gyda COVID.
English: Yes, why not?
Welsh: Gwnaf, pam lai?
English: Thank you. Does James Evans have any concerns around the impact of long COVID on children? I'm not sure if you heard yesterday Adam Price state that research estimates that between 10 and 20 per cent of children who contract COVID-19 developed paediatric long COVID. Are you so cavalier with the health of our children that you don't care, and say that we have to live with this?
Welsh: Diolch. A oes gan James Evans unrhyw bryderon ynghylch effaith COVID hir ar blant? Nid wyf yn siŵr a glywsoch chi Adam Price yn datgan ddoe fod ymchwil yn amcangyfrif bod rhwng 10 ac 20 y cant o blant sy'n dal COVID-19 wedi datblygu COVID hir pediatrig. A ydych mor ddi-hid gydag iechyd ein plant fel nad oes ots gennych, a dweud bod yn rhaid inni fyw gyda hyn?