English: Thank you. So, here we have the passing of a Bill that didn't have an in-depth costing for public services from the start, and that doesn't give us complete confidence in how the Bill's consequences will be communicated to parents and children, and one that doesn't give us, a devolved Parliament, any control over how its enforcement will be applied by two reserved institutions - the Crown Prosecution Service and the police. I say again that there must be a commitment from the Government to continually place this at the forefront of parents and the public's minds. Despite the Deputy Minister's clear commitment to have a long awareness campaign, if we are going to use the example of New Zealand as a reason to introduce the Bill, we should also heed the warning signs coming from that country. As I mentioned last week, 13 years after their smacking ban, a survey found that almost 40 per cent of mothers would still smack their child, and 70 per cent would not report a parent if they witnessed a parent smacking their child on the backside or the hand. So, this may not even have as much of an impact as you had intended. Furthermore, there has been a decline in discipline in New Zealand, with 15 per cent of parents with young children saying they were aware of a family that had been negatively affected by the law, and 17 per cent said it had made them less confident as a parent. We cannot allow this to be repeated in Wales. Deputy Presiding Officer, I agree entirely with the Finance Committee's concerns. And as I said during the passage of the Childcare Funding (Wales) Bill last year, this Parliament's concerns should not be continually dismissed by the Welsh Government, and we would take no more. Deputy Minister, as I said last week, it is your duty to take the Welsh public along with you, rather than to create an atmosphere of hostility and resistance. I don't think this has been achieved yet, but I also do know you have enough votes for the Bill to pass. As I said to the former Deputy Minister for Children and Social Services last year, it is also for you to convince your own constituents that this was the right course of action to take and that you have listened to scrutiny. I don't believe that to be the case.
Welsh: Diolch. Felly, yr hyn sydd gennym yn y fan yma yw pasio Bil nad oedd wedi ei gostio'n fanwl ar gyfer gwasanaethau cyhoeddus o'r cychwyn cyntaf, ac nid yw hynny'n rhoi llawn ffydd i ni o ran sut y bydd canlyniadau'r Bil yn cael eu cyfleu i rieni a phlant, ac mae'n un nad yw'n rhoi i ni, fel Senedd ddatganoledig, unrhyw reolaeth dros sut y caiff yr orfodaeth ohono ei weithredu gan ddau sefydliad a gadwyd yn ôl - Gwasanaeth Erlyn y Goron a'r heddlu. Dywedaf eto fod yn rhaid i'r Llywodraeth ymrwymo i roi hyn ar y tu blaen i feddyliau rhieni a'r cyhoedd yn barhaol. Er gwaethaf ymrwymiad clir y Dirprwy Weinidog i gynnal ymgyrch ymwybyddiaeth hir, os ydym ni'n mynd i ddefnyddio enghraifft Seland Newydd fel rheswm dros gyflwyno'r Bil, dylem ni hefyd wrando ar yr arwyddion rhybudd sy'n dod o'r wlad honno. Fel y soniais yr wythnos diwethaf, 13 mlynedd ar ôl iddyn nhw wahardd smacio, canfu arolwg y byddai bron i 40 y cant o famau yn dal i smacio eu plentyn, ac ni fyddai 70 y cant yn achwyn ar riant pe bydden nhw'n gweld rhiant yn smacio eu plentyn ar y pen-ôl neu'r llaw. Felly, efallai na fydd hyn hyd yn oed yn cael cymaint o effaith ag yr oeddech chi wedi ei fwriadu. Hefyd, bu dirywiad mewn disgyblaeth yn Seland Newydd, gyda 15 y cant o rieni â phlant ifanc yn dweud eu bod yn ymwybodol o deulu yr oedd y gyfraith wedi effeithio'n negyddol arnyn nhw, a dywedodd 17 y cant ei fod wedi eu gwneud yn llai hyderus fel rhieni. Ni allwn ganiatáu i hyn gael ei ailadrodd yng Nghymru. Dirprwy Lywydd, rwy'n cytuno'n llwyr â phryderon y Pwyllgor Cyllid. Ac fel y dywedais yn ystod hynt Bil Cyllido Gofal Plant (Cymru) y llynedd, ni ddylai Llywodraeth Cymru ddiystyru pryderon y Senedd hon yn barhaus, ac ni fyddem ni'n cymryd mwy. Dirprwy Weinidog, fel y dywedais yr wythnos diwethaf, eich dyletswydd chi yw mynd â chyhoedd Cymru gyda chi, yn hytrach na chreu awyrgylch o elyniaeth a gwrthwynebiad. Nid wyf i'n credu bod hyn wedi'i gyflawni eto, ond rwyf hefyd yn gwybod bod gennych chi ddigon o bleidleisiau i'r Bil basio. Fel y dywedais wrth y cyn Ddirprwy Weinidog Plant a Gwasanaethau Cymdeithasol y llynedd, mater i chi hefyd yw argyhoeddi eich etholwyr eich hun mai dyma'r cam cywir i'w gymryd a'ch bod wedi gwrando ar y broses graffu. Nid wyf i'n credu bod hynny'n wir.