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English: The twenty-second of September 1934 was a Saturday. Some miners at the Gresford Colliery had swapped shifts so that they'd be able to go and watch Wrexham play football that afternoon. But, of course, they were never to make the match as an explosion 2,000 ft underground ripped open the Dennis shaft in the early hours of that morning. The disaster claimed 266 lives, all local colliers, whose families rushed to the colliery pithead. Only six men, on a break, escaped from that shift. Volunteer rescuers, armed with only nose clips and canaries against deadly carbon monoxide gas, went down to try and save any survivors. Three of the rescue brigade from the nearby Llay colliery also perished. The families waited in vain until Sunday night, when it became apparent that nobody was coming up from that Dennis shaft alive. Popular reaction was immense and immediate: £566,000 was raised for widows and the children of those lost - the equivalent of around £30 million today. The surviving miners were effectively abandoned by the pit owners and had to sign on the dole at a time of mass unemployment. The Gresford Colliery is now closed, the tip its only visible reminder of a pit that employed 2,200 workers. But a lasting memorial to the 266 lives lost stands outside the Gresford colliery club, and this statement is also testimony to their sacrifice and the sacrifice made by countless Welsh miners over the years. The bodies of those caught in the explosion remain entombed deep underground, but they will never be forgotten.
Welsh: Dydd Sadwrn oedd yr ail ar hugain o Fedi 1934. Roedd rhai glowyr ym Mhwll Glo Gresffordd wedi cyfnewid shifftiau er mwyn iddynt allu mynd i wylio Wrecsam yn chwarae pêl-droed y prynhawn hwnnw. Ond wrth gwrs, ni lwyddasant i gyrraedd y gêm am fod ffrwydrad 2,000 troedfedd o dan y ddaear wedi rhwygo siafft Dennis ar agor yn oriau mân y bore hwnnw. Collodd 266 o bobl eu bywydau yn y trychineb, glowyr lleol bob un, a rhuthrodd eu teuluoedd at ben y pwll glo. Chwech o ddynion yn unig, ar doriad, a ddihangodd o'r sifft. Aeth gwirfoddolwyr, wedi'u harfogi â chlipiau trwyn a chaneris yn unig yn erbyn nwy marwol carbon monocsid i lawr i geisio achub unrhyw oroeswyr. Bu farw tri o frigâd achub pwll glo Llai gerllaw hefyd. Arhosodd y teuluoedd yn ofer tan nos Sul, pan ddaeth yn amlwg nad oedd neb yn dod i fyny o siafft Dennis yn fyw. Roedd adwaith y cyhoedd yn aruthrol ac uniongyrchol: codwyd £566,000 i weddwon a phlant y rhai a gollwyd - sy'n gyfwerth â thua £30 miliwn heddiw. Trodd perchnogion y pwll eu cefnau i bob pwrpas ar y glowyr a oroesodd a bu'n rhaid iddynt fynd ar y dôl mewn cyfnod o ddiweithdra enfawr. Mae Pwll Glo Gresffordd wedi cau erbyn hyn, a'r domen yw'r unig atgof gweladwy o bwll a gyflogai 2,200 o weithwyr. Ond mae cofeb barhaol i'r 266 o fywydau a gollwyd i'w gweld y tu allan i glwb y glowyr Gresffordd, ac mae'r datganiad hwn hefyd yn tystio i'w haberth a'r aberth a wnaed gan lowyr di-ri yng Nghymru dros y blynyddoedd. Mae cyrff y rhai a ddaliwyd yn y ffrwydrad yn parhau i fod wedi'u claddu'n ddwfn o dan y ddaear, ond ni fyddant byth yn angof.
English: The next item is a debate on the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee's report on medical recruitment and I call on the Chair of the committee to move the motion. Dai Lloyd.
Welsh: Yr eitem nesaf yw'r ddadl ar adroddiad y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon ar recriwtio meddygol, ac rydw i'n galw ar Gadeirydd y pwyllgor i wneud y cynnig. Dai Lloyd.
English: Thank you very much, Llywydd. I'm very pleased to open this debate today on the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee's report on medical recruitment. As background, earlier this year we debated the committee's first major report of the fifth Assembly, which focused on winter preparedness for 2016-17. As part of that inquiry, we heard a strong and consistent message that sufficient service capacity and enough staff are vital components in any effective healthcare system. We therefore agreed that, over the course of this Assembly, we would review the sustainability of the health and social care workforce. Our inquiry into medical recruitment in Wales is the first part of this broader review.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Llywydd, ac rydw i'n falch iawn o gael agor y ddadl yma y prynhawn yma ar adroddiad y Pwyllgor Iechyd, Gofal Cymdeithasol a Chwaraeon ar recriwtio meddygol. Fel cefndir, yn gynharach eleni cynhaliwyd dadl ar adroddiad sylweddol cyntaf y pwyllgor yn y pumed Cynulliad yma a oedd yn canolbwyntio ar barodrwydd ar gyfer y gaeaf 2016-2017. Yn ystod yr ymchwiliad hwnnw, clywsom neges gref a chyson bod niferoedd digonol o staff a gallu'r gwasanaethau i ymdopi â'r galw yn elfennau hanfodol mewn unrhyw system gofal iechyd effeithiol. Cytunwyd felly y byddem, yn ystod y Cynulliad hwn, yn adolygu pa mor gynaliadwy yw'r gweithlu iechyd a gofal cymdeithasol. Ein hymchwiliad i recriwtio meddygol yng Nghymru yw'r rhan gyntaf o'r adolygiad eang yma.
English: I restate my commitment to providing a further response back to Members this year on that work - [Interruption.]
Welsh: Rwy'n ailddatgan fy ymrwymiad i ddarparu ymateb pellach yn ôl i'r Aelodau eleni ar y gwaith hwnnw - [Torri ar draws.]
English: Who are you giving way to?
Welsh: I bwy rydych chi'n ildio?
English: Well, I saw Rhun. I'll take one, and then I might take another.
Welsh: Wel, fe welais i Rhun. Fe gymeraf un, ac yna efallai y cymeraf un arall.
English: Go on then.
Welsh: Ewch ymlaen felly.
English: Will you confirm that you will look at going down the route of accepting undergraduates from year 1 right the way through, which I am told without any shadow of a doubt is possible in Bangor, through a collaborative approach between Cardiff, Swansea, Bangor, whoever might want to get involved?
Welsh: A wnewch chi gadarnhau y byddwch yn ystyried mynd ar drywydd derbyn israddedigion o flwyddyn 1 yr holl ffordd drwodd, rhywbeth y dywedwyd wrthyf a fyddai heb unrhyw amheuaeth yn bosibl ym Mangor, drwy ddull cydweithredol rhwng Caerdydd, Abertawe, Bangor, pwy bynnag fyddai eisiau cymryd rhan?
English: We need to look at what is possible. I don't want to rule anything in or out at this point. I need to see what is possible, and equally not just what is possible, but what will provide us with the greatest return for the service. I'll take a brief intervention and then I'll make some more progress.
Welsh: Mae angen i ni edrych ar yr hyn sy'n bosibl. Nid wyf am dderbyn na gwrthod unrhyw beth ar y pwynt hwn. Mae angen i mi weld beth sy'n bosibl, ac yn yr un modd, nid yn unig yr hyn sy'n bosibl, ond yr hyn a fydd yn cynnig fwyaf yn ôl inni am y gwasanaeth. Fe gymeraf ymyriad byr ac yna byddaf yn bwrw ymlaen.
English: How do you respond to the statement made to those AMs in north Wales who were able to attend a meeting with the north Wales medical committee last week that they would want that collaboration - this is the GPs medical committee - to include the neighbouring universities in north-west England, which have also provided student doctors and doctors to the region in the past?
Welsh: Sut ydych chi'n ymateb i'r datganiad a wnaed i'r ACau yng ngogledd Cymru a oedd yn gallu mynychu cyfarfod gyda phwyllgor meddygol gogledd Cymru yr wythnos diwethaf y byddent am i'r cydweithio hwnnw - pwyllgor meddygol y meddygon teulu yw hwn - gynnwys y prifysgolion cyfagos yng ngogledd-orllewin Lloegr, sydd hefyd wedi darparu myfyrwyr meddygol a meddygon i'r rhanbarth yn y gorffennol?
English: Thank you very much. I now call Dai Lloyd to reply to the debate.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Galwaf yn awr ar Dai Lloyd i ymateb i'r ddadl.
English: Thank you very much. The proposal is to agree to note the committee's report. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, the motion is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Y cynnig yw cytuno i nodi adroddiad y pwyllgor. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Nac oes. Felly, derbyniwyd y cynnig yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36.
English: We now move on to the Welsh Conservative debate on community health councils, and I call on Mark Isherwood to move the motion.
Welsh: Symudwn ymlaen yn awr at ddadl y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig ar gynghorau iechyd cymuned, a galwaf ar Mark Isherwood i gynnig y cynnig.
English: I have selected the two amendments to the motion, and I call on the Cabinet Secretary for Health, Well-being and Sport to move formally amendment 1, tabled in the name of Jane Hutt.
Welsh: Rwyf wedi dethol y ddau welliant i'r cynnig, a galwaf ar Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet dros Iechyd, Llesiant a Chwaraeon i gynnig gwelliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Jane Hutt, yn ffurfiol.
English: Can I welcome the White Paper, which addresses the issue of how we should engage better with citizens in terms of service delivery? I think it's clear that the more we work with service users, the more likely it is that we are going to get a better and successful model of service delivery. The recent experience, for example, of the Gellinudd Recovery Centre, where patients have a say in everything from policy to the decorations, has led to not just a better service, but also to predicted savings of £300,000 to the NHS. So, one of the areas that's being suggested in this White Paper that is ripe for reform is that body of community health councils, which are embedded in local communities around Wales. That's clearly where we have all focused our attention today. I think the community health councils themselves would be the first to put up their hands and agree that there is a need for reform. An obvious point is the fact that, at the moment, they have the right to speak on behalf of the public in relation to health but not in relation to social care. It's clear that we want to see better integration, and so there's an example of where something needs to change. I think if we are honest, we would have to admit that, in general and certainly in some areas, members of the public have no idea that community health councils exist to speak on their behalf. I had not heard of them before I was elected to this Chamber last year. So, if we are going to have a patient voice organisation -
Welsh: A gaf fi groesawu'r Papur Gwyn, sy'n mynd i'r afael â sut y dylem ymgysylltu'n well â dinasyddion mewn perthynas â'r modd y darparir gwasanaethau? Rwy'n credu ei bod yn amlwg, po fwyaf y byddwn yn gweithio gyda defnyddwyr gwasanaethau, y mwyaf tebygol yw hi ein bod yn mynd i gael model gwell a llwyddiannus o ddarparu gwasanaethau. Mae profiad diweddar Canolfan Adferiad Gellinudd, er enghraifft, lle mae gan gleifion lais ym mhob dim o bolisi i'r addurniadau, wedi arwain nid yn unig at wasanaeth gwell, ond hefyd at arbedion a ragwelir o £300,000 i'r GIG. Felly, un o'r meysydd yr awgrymir yn y Papur Gwyn hwn ei fod yn aeddfed ar gyfer ei ddiwygio yw'r corff o gynghorau iechyd cymuned a sefydlwyd mewn cymunedau lleol ledled Cymru. Mae'n amlwg mai dyna ble rydym i gyd wedi canolbwyntio ein sylw heddiw. Rwy'n credu mai'r cynghorau iechyd cymuned eu hunain fyddai'r cyntaf i godi eu dwylo a chytuno bod angen diwygio. Un pwynt amlwg yw'r ffaith fod ganddynt, ar hyn o bryd, hawl i siarad ar ran y cyhoedd mewn perthynas ag iechyd, ond nid mewn perthynas â gofal cymdeithasol. Mae'n amlwg ein bod am weld gwell integreiddio, ac felly dyna enghraifft o ble mae angen i rywbeth newid. Os ydym yn onest, rwy'n credu y byddai'n rhaid i ni gyfaddef, yn gyffredinol, ac yn sicr mewn rhai ardaloedd, nad oes gan aelodau o'r cyhoedd unrhyw syniad fod cynghorau iechyd cymuned yn bodoli i siarad ar eu rhan. Nid oeddwn i wedi clywed amdanynt cyn i mi gael fy ethol i'r Siambr hon y llynedd. Felly, os ydym yn mynd i gael sefydliad sy'n rhoi llais i gleifion -
English: That's a lack of curiosity.
Welsh: Diffyg chwilfrydedd yw hynny.
English: I've got to say, Eluned Morgan, I listen closely to your arguments, and you have very many sensible things to say, but that wasn't one of them. I'm a bit concerned about your argument that just because people aren't aware of community health councils, they shouldn't exist. If you use -
Welsh: Rhaid i mi ddweud, Eluned Morgan, rwy'n gwrando'n astud ar eich dadleuon, ac mae gennych lawer iawn o bethau synhwyrol i'w dweud, ond nid oedd hynny'n un ohonynt. Rwy'n poeni braidd ynglŷn â'ch dadl na ddylai cynghorau iechyd cymuned fodoli a hynny'n unig am nad yw pobl yn ymwybodol ohonynt. Os ydych yn defnyddio -
English: Well, you said something that could be confused as saying that.
Welsh: Wel, fe ddywedoch rywbeth y gellid credu ei fod yn dweud hynny.
English: I actually said they should be better resourced.
Welsh: Fe ddywedais mewn gwirionedd y dylent gael rhagor o adnoddau.
English: Are you taking an intervention from the Member?
Welsh: A ydych yn derbyn ymyriad gan yr Aelod?
English: No, not yet. I'm not.
Welsh: Nac ydw, ddim ar hyn o bryd. Nac ydw.
English: No, sorry; you can't shout out.
Welsh: Na, mae'n ddrwg gennyf; ni chewch weiddi.
English: I will, yes.
Welsh: Fe wnaf.
English: I just want to talk about the fit for the future paper in its generality. You talk about the fact that it's bringing together everything and it's going to bring forward a new method of governance, et cetera. So, can you tell me, Cabinet Secretary, why does it make only, I think, one mention of the regional partnership boards and why is there absolutely no mention of how GP clusters should be governed?
Welsh: Hoffwn sôn am y papur 'addas i'r dyfodol' yn gyffredinol. Rydych yn siarad am y ffaith ei fod yn dwyn popeth at ei gilydd a'i fod yn mynd i gyflwyno dull newydd o lywodraethu ac yn y blaen. Felly, a allwch ddweud wrthyf, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, pam nad yw ond yn sôn un waith am y byrddau partneriaeth rhanbarthol a pham nad oes unrhyw sôn o gwbl ynglŷn â sut y dylid llywodraethu clystyrau meddygon teulu?
English: Could she allude to how we've indicated that we are supportive of the prison? What documentation has the Member got to show?
Welsh: A allai gyfeirio at sut yr ydym wedi dynodi ein bod yn gefnogol i'r carchar? Pa ddogfennau sydd gan yr Aelod i'w dangos?
English: I have selected the amendment to the motion, and I call on Suzy Davies to move amendment 1, tabled in the name of Paul Davies.
Welsh: Rwyf wedi dethol y gwelliant i'r cynnig, a rydw i'n galw ar Suzy Davies i gynnig gwelliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Paul Davies.
English: No, I won't. You ought to intervene on your party, actually, Leanne. You've worked in the probation service, and you're allowing members of your party to talk about importing prisoners as if they're some kind of toxic English commodity. I think it's disgraceful. You have been absolutely right to criticise how careless tongues have dehumanised refugees and asylum seekers, yet I see no intervention from you on the casual way that you've allowed prisoners to be dehumanised in this debate on the new prison. Our Victorian prisons also dehumanise people. In Swansea prison, the staff have tried very, very hard to mitigate pretty grim conditions, but the space just does not lend itself to rehabilitation. The facilities for prisoners' families are better than they were, not least because of the work of FFOPS, which I mentioned earlier, but I suspect that most of us here would recognise that it's far from ideal. This new facility - and there are three others to be built in England - is not a wicked alternative to prison reform -
Welsh: Na, ni wnaf. Dylech ymyrryd ar eich plaid eich hun, Leanne. Rydych wedi gweithio yn y gwasanaeth prawf, ac rydych yn caniatáu i aelodau o'ch plaid siarad am fewnforio carcharorion fel pe baent yn rhyw fath o nwydd Seisnig gwenwynig. Rwy'n credu ei fod yn warthus. Rydych wedi bod yn hollol iawn i feirniadu'r modd y mae tafodau diofal wedi dad-ddyneiddio ffoaduriaid a cheiswyr lloches, ac eto ni welaf unrhyw ymyriad gennych o ran y ffordd ddidaro rydych wedi caniatáu i garcharorion gael eu dad-ddyneiddio yn y ddadl hon ar y carchar newydd. Mae ein carchardai Fictoraidd hefyd yn dad-ddyneiddio pobl. Yng ngharchar Abertawe, mae'r staff wedi ymdrechu'n galed iawn i liniaru cyflwr llwm iawn y lle, ond nid yw'r gofod yn addas ar gyfer adsefydlu. Mae'r cyfleusterau ar gyfer teuluoedd carcharorion yn well na'r hyn oeddent, nid yn lleiaf oherwydd gwaith Cymdeithas Teuluoedd a Ffrindiau Carcharorion, a grybwyllais yn gynharach, ond rwy'n amau y byddai'r rhan fwyaf ohonom yma yn cydnabod ei fod yn bell o fod yn ddelfrydol. Nid ateb amgen dieflig yn lle diwygio carchardai yw'r cyfleuster newydd hwn - ac mae tri arall i gael eu hadeiladu yn Lloegr -
English: Maybe at the end. [Continues.] - and stopping re-offending, as Bethan Jenkins suggested in March and today. It's incorrect. It is part of that reform.
Welsh: Ar y diwedd efallai. [Yn parhau.] - ac atal aildroseddu, fel yr awgrymodd Bethan Jenkins ym mis Mawrth a heddiw. Mae'n anghywir. Mae'n rhan o'r diwygio hwnnw.
English: Would you allow an intervention?
Welsh: A wnewch chi ganiatáu ymyriad?
English: We've all seen the economic and social pain that Port Talbot has suffered of late. I have to say that turning Wales's industrial heartland into an industrial-sized penal colony is not the solution to years of neglect that that community has suffered. I want to concentrate in my remarks on the economic dimension, but I would say to the Conservative Member: look, it's not humane to dragoon people - prisoners - and move them hundreds of miles away from their family. The evidence shows that rehabilitation is far less successful if people are moved hundreds of miles away from their families, and that's what the superprison concept essentially represents. Let's look at the real motivating factor behind this Conservative policy - [Interruption.] If you'd like to intervene on me, I'll take your intervention. Let's look at the real motivation. This is austerity - [Interruption.] All right, okay, I'll take an intervention. Go on.
Welsh: Rydym i gyd wedi gweld y boen economaidd a chymdeithasol y mae Port Talbot wedi'i dioddef yn ddiweddar. Mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud nad troi cadarnleoedd diwydiannol Cymru yn wladfa gosbi ddiwydiannol ei maint yw'r ateb i'r blynyddoedd o esgeulustod y mae'r gymuned honno wedi'u dioddef. Hoffwn ganolbwyntio yn fy sylwadau ar y dimensiwn economaidd, ond buaswn yn dweud wrth yr Aelod Ceidwadol: edrychwch, mae'n annynol i orfodi pobl - carcharorion - i symud gannoedd o filltiroedd oddi wrth eu teuluoedd. Mae'r dystiolaeth yn dangos bod adsefydlu'n llawer llai llwyddiannus os yw pobl yn cael eu symud gannoedd o filltiroedd oddi wrth eu teuluoedd, a dyna yw'r cysyniad sy'n sail i'r uwch garchar yn ei hanfod. Gadewch i ni edrych ar y ffactor ysgogol go iawn sy'n sail i'r polisi hwn gan y Ceidwadwyr - [Torri ar draws.] Os hoffech ymyrryd, fe gymeraf eich ymyriad. Gadewch i ni edrych ar y cymhelliant go iawn. Cyni yw hyn - [Torri ar draws.] O'r gorau, iawn, fe gymeraf ymyriad. Ewch ymlaen.
English: I'm looking forward to what you are going to say, but I hope you will provide evidence for what you are about to assert.
Welsh: Rwy'n edrych ymlaen at yr hyn yr ydych yn mynd i'w ddweud, ond rwy'n gobeithio y byddwch yn rhoi tystiolaeth dros yr hyn yr ydych ar fin ei honni.
English: Will you take an intervention? I just wonder if you can clarify whether this land has been designated as where the Swansea metro is due to pass through, and therefore if we were to put a prison onto this site, that would obviously have smooth implications for the smooth running of the Swansea metro.
Welsh: A wnewch chi dderbyn ymyriad? Roeddwn yn meddwl tybed a allwch egluro a yw'r tir hwn wedi ei ddynodi fel y man ble mae metro Abertawe i fod i basio drwyddo, ac felly pe baem yn rhoi carchar ar y safle hwn, byddai hynny'n amlwg â goblygiadau enfawr o ran rhediad esmwyth metro Abertawe.
English: It's a pleasure to take part in this debate. I'm grateful to follow David Rees's strong contribution there, because obviously it was a shock to us all when Carl Sargeant, the Cabinet Secretary, announced the intention to build a superprison potentially housing 1,600 prisoners in Baglan earlier this year. We did not see it coming. Welsh Government obviously were not involved in any discussions prior -
Welsh: Mae'n bleser cymryd rhan yn y ddadl hon. Rwy'n falch o ddilyn cyfraniad cryf David Rees yno, oherwydd yn amlwg roedd yn sioc i bawb ohonom pan gyhoeddodd Carl Sargeant, Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet, y bwriad i adeiladu uwch garchar a allai roi llety i 1,600 o garcharorion ym Maglan yn gynharach eleni. Ni welsom hynny'n dod. Yn amlwg, nid oedd Llywodraeth Cymru yn rhan o unrhyw drafodaethau cyn -
English: Will the Member give way? I don't wish to disparage anything, but, just for clarification, actually the announcement came from the MOJ, not Carl Sargeant. I don't want to defend him, but it was theirs, unfortunately.
Welsh: A wnaiff yr Aelod ildio? Nid wyf yn dymuno dibrisio unrhyw beth, ond er mwyn eglurder, daeth y cyhoeddiad gan y Weinyddiaeth Gyfiawnder, nid gan Carl Sargeant. Nid wyf am ei amddiffyn, ond eu cyhoeddiad hwy ydoedd, yn anffodus.
English: I am very uncomfortable with the proposal to build a large prison in Port Talbot and with the political games that are accompanying it. I don't buy the argument that this is a non-devolved issue. This is about the type of country we want Wales to be, and Monday's announcement of a commission on justice in Wales, led by Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd, the current Lord Chief Justice, offers us an opportunity to have greater devolution of the judicial system in Wales and also to have the debate about the kind of picture that Welsh justice looks like. I'd like to see a prison system that doesn't warehouse people but focuses on rehabilitation. That is my strong instinct, but in reflecting on what to say in today's debate I looked at some of the evidence, and the evidence is mixed. I think we do need to weigh the importance of keeping prisoners close to their families with the other evidence that shows that separating offenders from their peer group can help with the cycle of reoffending. Evidence shows that prisoners in newer prisons have better outcomes than those housed in older prisons, and this is a much bigger factor in recidivism than the size of the institution. Many argue that larger prisons are too impersonal to support effective rehabilitation, whilst others argue that the economies of scale provided by larger prisons mean better and wider training and employment facilities can be provided. So, the evidence is mixed. The economic case isn't clear cut either. People argue -
Welsh: Rwy'n anghyfforddus iawn gyda'r cynnig i adeiladu carchar mawr ym Mhort Talbot a'r gemau gwleidyddol sy'n mynd gyda hynny. Nid wyf yn derbyn y ddadl fod hwn yn fater sydd heb ei ddatganoli. Mae'n ymwneud â'r math o wlad yr ydym am i Gymru fod, ac mae cyhoeddiad dydd Llun ynglŷn â chomisiwn ar gyfiawnder yng Nghymru, dan arweiniad yr Arglwydd Thomas o Cwmgiedd, yr Arglwydd Brif Ustus presennol, yn cynnig cyfle inni ddatganoli mwy o'r system farnwrol yng Nghymru a hefyd i gael trafodaeth ynglŷn â sut beth yw cyfiawnder yng Nghymru. Hoffwn weld system garchardai nad yw'n gosod pobl mewn warysau, ond sy'n canolbwyntio, yn hytrach, ar adsefydlu. Dyna fy ngreddf, ond wrth fyfyrio ar beth i'w ddweud yn y ddadl heddiw edrychais ar beth o'r dystiolaeth, ac mae'r dystiolaeth yn gymysg. Rwy'n credu bod angen i ni bwyso a mesur pwysigrwydd cadw carcharorion yn agos at eu teuluoedd gyda'r dystiolaeth arall sy'n dangos y gall gwahanu troseddwyr oddi wrth eu grŵp cyfoedion helpu gyda'r cylch o aildroseddu. Mae tystiolaeth yn dangos bod carcharorion mewn carchardai mwy newydd yn cael canlyniadau gwell na'r rhai sydd wedi'u lleoli mewn carchardai hŷn, a bod hwn yn ffactor llawer mwy mewn perthynas ag aildroseddu na maint y sefydliad. Mae llawer yn dadlau bod carchardai mwy o faint yn rhy amhersonol i gefnogi adsefydlu effeithiol, tra bod eraill yn dadlau bod yr arbedion maint a ddarperir gan garchardai mwy o faint yn golygu y gellir darparu hyfforddiant a chyfleusterau cyflogaeth gwell ac ehangach. Felly, mae'r dystiolaeth yn gymysg. Nid yw'r achos economaidd yn glir chwaith. Mae pobl yn dadlau -
English: I'd be happy to give way.
Welsh: Rwy'n hapus i ildio.