English: - not at the moment, no - us accessing the highly trained medical staff that we need and the experiences that those staff might gain from other parts of the world. So, I'm going to bring that into the mix, because it is very definitely in the mix at the moment. What I think we need out of this consultation at the moment is some real meat on the bones. What really does it look like? When we talk about community hubs, exactly what are we talking about? Where are they going to be, and what is it that they're going to deliver for people that is different to now? Is that also going to help with retaining and gaining GPs in our communities, which is also another huge, huge challenge? Do we need to go to hospital all of the time for all of the appointments that people go for at the moment and travel the miles that they do at the moment? I think we need a reasoned debate here in looking at the genuine reconfiguration that has to happen. And the other question that I ask is this: should we, without thought, be turning down what could be an absolute opportunity to build a hospital in west Wales that might solve all of the problems and bring massive investment in the change that people will need in 10 or 20 years' time that will last for the next, maybe, 30, 40 or 50 years, when, probably, a lot of us in this Chamber won't be around to see that change? We need to think now, clearly, for the people who will need us to do that now, to be a little bit brave, but at the same time to ensure that there is no change at the moment to services before there is an opportunity to take advantage of the new systems in place.
Welsh: - nid ar hyn o bryd, na wnaf - cael gafael ar y staff meddygol hyfforddedig sydd eu hangen arnom a'r profiadau y gallai'r staff hynny eu cael o rannau eraill o'r byd. Felly, rwy'n mynd i gynnwys hynny yn y gymysgedd, oherwydd mae'n bendant iawn yn rhan o'r gymysgedd ar hyn o bryd. Yr hyn y credaf sydd ei angen arnom o'r ymgynghoriad hwn ar hyn o bryd yw ychydig o gig ar yr esgyrn. Sut beth ydyw mewn gwirionedd? Pan fyddwn yn sôn am ganolfannau cymunedol, beth yn union a olygwn? Ble maent yn mynd i fod, a beth y maent yn mynd i'w ddarparu ar gyfer pobl sy'n wahanol i nawr? A yw hynny hefyd yn mynd i helpu i gadw a dod o hyd i feddygon teulu yn ein cymunedau, sydd hefyd yn her anferth arall? A oes angen inni fynd i'r ysbyty bob tro ar gyfer pob un o'r apwyntiadau y bydd pobl yn eu cael ar hyn o bryd a theithio'r milltiroedd y maent yn eu teithio ar hyn o bryd? Credaf fod angen inni gael dadl resymegol yma ac edrych ar yr ad-drefnu go iawn y bydd yn rhaid ei gael. A'r cwestiwn arall rwy'n ei ofyn yw hwn: a ddylem wrthod yn ddifeddwl yr hyn a allai fod yn gyfle pendant i adeiladu ysbyty yng ngorllewin Cymru a allai ddatrys yr holl broblemau a dod â buddsoddiad enfawr yn y newid y bydd pobl ei angen mewn 10 neu 20 o flynyddoedd a fydd yn para am y 30, 40 neu 50 mlynedd nesaf, pan na fydd llawer ohonom yn y Siambr o gwmpas i weld y newid hwnnw, mae'n debyg? Rhaid inni feddwl yn awr, yn amlwg, a ran y bobl a fydd angen inni wneud hynny yn awr, i fod ychydig yn ddewr, ond i sicrhau ar yr un pryd nad oes newid ar hyn o bryd i wasanaethau cyn bod cyfle i fanteisio ar y systemau newydd sydd ar waith.