English: We absolutely do acknowledge that there's potential for a real problem here, but at the same time we currently provide support to landowners if they want to plant trees on their land, and they have to do that in accordance with a tree planting plan. So, you can't just whack any old tree over any old land; you must actually get your tree planting plan approved. Actually, one of the things we discussed - . My colleague Lee Waters, as you know, has just done a deep dive into trees, and one of the things that came up there was the exact opposite of that, which is that sometimes the tree planting plans are a barrier to tree planting. We've obviously got to get the balance just right. Just to be really clear before we start the conversation, we don't think that offsets are the way to go. Obviously, what you should do is reduce your emissions, so it's not okay to just pollute as much as you like and plant some trees. So, we're very clear that the offsets are for companies that have already reduced their emissions to the point where they can't be reduced any more with current technologies, and therefore some offsetting is necessary. We are part of the four-nation woodland group at the moment. The Scottish Government provides the secretariat for that. I'm very happy to speak with the Scottish Government, who will have similar problems to us. We certainly do not want to see good agricultural land bought up for this purpose and covered in trees for no good reason. What we want is to make sure that the right tree is planted in the right place on the right land in Wales, and that good agricultural land is continued to be used for food production. So, we will be looking at it. I had a very good meeting with the FUW as well, earlier, about this very point. I'm very aware of how concerned people are about this, so we will continue to monitor it. There isn't an enormous amount of it happening at the moment, but I absolutely do see the possibility for it. So, we will continue to monitor it. I'm also very keen at looking at ways that the Welsh Government can acquire land of that sort for community purposes and for young farmer schemes and so on. I'm very happy to work with you and with others to make sure that we have all of the right protections in place, whilst encouraging the planting of the right tree in the right place by the right people. The last thing I would like to say is that there is a lot of money available for this. We would very much like to help our farmers lever that money into their farms, again to plant the right tree in the right place for the right purpose. So, it's not that we don't want the money of the trading emissions market; we just want it in the right place and for the right people and to benefit the right communities. So, there's a balance to be found here. I'm very happy to work with you and others across Wales to make sure that we get that right balance - that we both get the benefit of the money that's available and that we use it to the right effect in Wales.
Welsh: Rydym yn sicr yn cydnabod bod perygl o broblem go iawn yma, ond ar yr un pryd rydym yn rhoi cymorth i dirfeddianwyr ar hyn o bryd os ydynt am blannu coed ar eu tir, ac mae'n rhaid iddynt wneud hynny yn unol â chynllun plannu coed. Felly, ni allwch dorri unrhyw hen goeden ar unrhyw hen dir; rhaid i chi gael eich cynllun plannu coed wedi'i gymeradwyo. Mewn gwirionedd, un o'r pethau a drafodwyd gennym - . Mae fy nghyd-Aelod, Lee Waters, fel y gwyddoch, newydd wneud astudiaeth ddofn o goed, ac un o'r pethau a gododd ynddi oedd y gwrthwyneb llwyr i hynny, sef bod y cynlluniau plannu coed weithiau'n rhwystr i blannu coed. Mae'n amlwg fod yn rhaid inni gael y cydbwysedd yn iawn. I fod yn glir iawn cyn inni ddechrau'r sgwrs, nid ydym yn credu mai gwrthbwyso yw'r ffordd i fynd. Yn amlwg, yr hyn y dylech ei wneud yw lleihau eich allyriadau, felly nid yw'n iawn llygru cymaint ag y mynnwch a phlannu coed. Felly, rydym yn glir iawn fod gwrthbwyso ar gyfer cwmnïau sydd eisoes wedi lleihau eu hallyriadau i'r pwynt lle na ellir eu lleihau ymhellach gyda thechnolegau cyfredol, ac felly mae angen rhywfaint o wrthbwyso. Rydym yn rhan o grŵp y pedair gwlad ar goetiroedd ar hyn o bryd. Mae Llywodraeth yr Alban yn darparu'r ysgrifenyddiaeth ar ei gyfer. Rwy'n hapus iawn i siarad â Llywodraeth yr Alban, a fydd â phroblemau tebyg i ni. Yn sicr, nid ydym am weld tir amaethyddol da yn cael ei brynu at y diben hwn a'i orchuddio â choed heb unrhyw reswm da dros wneud hynny. Rydym am sicrhau bod y goeden gywir yn cael ei phlannu yn y lle iawn ar y tir cywir yng Nghymru, a bod tir amaethyddol da yn parhau i gael ei ddefnyddio ar gyfer cynhyrchu bwyd. Felly, byddwn yn edrych arno. Cefais gyfarfod da iawn gyda Undeb Amaethwyr Cymru yn gynharach hefyd ar yr union bwynt hwn. Rwy'n ymwybodol iawn o bryder pobl ynglŷn â hyn, felly byddwn yn parhau i'w fonitro. Nid oes llawer iawn ohono'n digwydd ar hyn o bryd, ond rwy'n gweld y perygl y gallai ddigwydd. Felly, byddwn yn parhau i'w fonitro. Rwyf hefyd yn awyddus iawn i edrych ar ffyrdd y gall Llywodraeth Cymru gaffael tir o'r math hwnnw at ddibenion cymunedol ac ar gyfer cynlluniau ffermwyr ifanc ac yn y blaen. Rwy'n hapus iawn i weithio gyda chi a chydag eraill i sicrhau bod gennym yr holl amddiffyniadau cywir ar waith, gan annog y bobl iawn i blannu'r goeden gywir yn y lle iawn. Y peth olaf yr hoffwn ei ddweud yw bod llawer o arian ar gael ar gyfer hyn. Hoffem helpu ein ffermwyr i ddenu'r arian hwnnw i'w ffermydd, unwaith eto er mwyn plannu'r goeden gywir yn y lle iawn at y diben cywir. Felly, nid nad ydym eisiau arian o'r farchnad masnachu allyriadau; rydym am ei gael yn y lle iawn ac i'r bobl iawn ac er budd y cymunedau cywir. Felly, mae cydbwysedd i'w daro yma. Rwy'n hapus iawn i weithio gyda chi ac eraill ledled Cymru i sicrhau ein bod yn cael y cydbwysedd cywir hwnnw - ein bod yn elwa ar arian sydd ar gael a'n bod yn ei ddefnyddio i'r perwyl cywir yng Nghymru.