English: Thank you, Presiding Officer. If I may, before I start my contribution, I do want to take issue with the contribution of the Member for Llanelli, accusing me of making an allegation from a sedentary position about Lynne Neagle, the Member for Torfaen. I did not make that. I hold the Member in the highest regard possible, and I do want the record to show that because I know full well that you are a Chair of a scrutiny committee that holds no quarter when that scrutiny is due, and you do make sure that the Government is held to account, and I have seen that in the 10 years that I have seen you here, performing your role as the Member for Torfaen. The debate today - [ Interruption. ] The debate today - [ Interruption. ] The debate today - [ Interruption. ] The debate today is quite clear. There is a role for this Assembly to play in scrutinising what has come to public attention over the last three weeks. It is unthinkable that any other organisation that had had these accusations made by senior people who worked at the heart of that organisation would not be called to account by this institution. It is regrettable that the house will divide along party lines, and I'm assuming that the party lines are being whipped from the Government's side for the division to take place. There are three inquiries that potentially, if this motion were to be carried forward, could happen. The first is the independent inquiry that the Permanent Secretary is working to establish with the family, and has no relevance to what we are debating here today. The second is the inquiry that the First Minister announced only on Thursday of last week, of the independent person to be put in charge of a referral by him over issues that he believes have been raised over the last 14 days. But, what is really important is that there is an inquiry of the Committee for the Scrutiny of the First Minister to look at the overall allegations, accusations - call them what you will - that have been levelled by many people, some anonymously, but by two people in particular who have first-hand experience stretching back to 2009 - not just 2014; 2009 - and for the entire period that they were in Government. I will be the happiest person in this Chamber if those allegations can be disproved. There is no one person in this Chamber, surely, who stands for bullying, intimidation and any of the other accusations that have been levelled by individuals during their time in Government. I do draw Members' attention to this fact: can you name another organisation that, if you had heard in your role as an Assembly Member - I will take the intervention in a minute - if you had heard of another organisation, where you sit on various committees and you scrutinise that organisation, that you would not be bringing forward that organisation to be held to account about the accusations that had been levelled and to take witness statements from the people who had made those accusations?
Welsh: Diolch i chi, Lywydd. Os caf, cyn i mi ddechrau fy nghyfraniad, hoffwn anghytuno â chyfraniad yr Aelod dros Lanelli, yn fy nghyhuddo o wneud honiad ar fy eistedd am Lynne Neagle, yr Aelod dros Dorfaen. Ni wneuthum hynny. Mae gennyf y parch mwyaf at yr Aelod, ac nid wyf am i'r Cofnod ddangos hynny gan fy mod yn gwybod yn iawn eich bod yn Gadeirydd pwyllgor craffu nad yw'n ymatal pan fo angen craffu, ac rydych yn sicrhau bod y Llywodraeth yn cael ei dwyn i gyfrif , ac rwyf wedi gweld hynny yn y 10 mlynedd y gwelais i chi yma, yn cyflawni eich rôl fel yr Aelod dros Dorfaen. Mae'r ddadl heddiw - [ Torri ar draws. ] Mae'r ddadl heddiw - [ Torri ar draws. ] Mae'r ddadl heddiw - [ Torri ar draws. ] Mae'r ddadl heddiw yn eithaf clir. Mae rôl i'r Cynulliad ei chwarae yn craffu ar yr hyn a ddaeth i sylw'r cyhoedd dros y tair wythnos diwethaf. Ni ellir dychmygu na fuasai unrhyw sefydliad arall a fuasai wedi cael y cyhuddiadau hyn gan uwch-swyddogion yn gweithio ynghanol y sefydliad hwnnw yn cael eu dwyn i gyfrif gan y sefydliad hwnnw. Mae'n drueni y bydd y tŷ'n rhannu ar hyd llinellau plaid, ac rwy'n rhagdybio bod llinellau plaid yn cael eu chwipio o ochr y Llywodraeth i'r rhaniad ddigwydd. Ceir tri ymchwiliad a allai ddigwydd, o bosibl, pe bai'r cynnig hwn yn cael ei dderbyn. Y cyntaf yw'r ymchwiliad annibynnol y mae'r Ysgrifennydd Parhaol yn gweithio i'w sefydlu gyda'r teulu, ac nid yw'n berthnasol i'r hyn rydym yn ei drafod yma heddiw. Yr ail yw'r ymchwiliad a gyhoeddwyd gan y Prif Weinidog ddydd Iau diwethaf, gyda'r person annibynnol i gael ei roi yng ngofal atgyfeiriad ganddo ynghylch materion y cred eu bod wedi cael eu codi dros y 14 diwrnod diwethaf. Ond yr hyn sy'n wirioneddol bwysig yw bod yna ymchwiliad gan y Pwyllgor Craffu ar Waith y Prif Weinidog i edrych ar yr honiadau cyffredinol, cyhuddiadau - beth bynnag yr hoffech eu galw - a wnaed gan lawer o bobl, rhai yn ddienw, ond gan ddau berson yn arbennig sydd wedi cael profiad uniongyrchol yn mynd yn ôl i 2009 - nid 2014 yn unig; 2009 - ac am yr holl gyfnod roeddent yn y Llywodraeth. Ni fydd neb yn hapusach na fi yn y Siambr hon os gellir gwrthbrofi'r honiadau hynny. Does bosibl fod yna unrhyw berson yn y Siambr hon sy'n goddef bwlio, bygythiadau ac unrhyw rai o'r cyhuddiadau eraill a wnaed gan unigolion yn ystod eu cyfnod yn y Llywodraeth. Rwy'n tynnu sylw'r Aelodau at y ffaith hon: a allwch enwi sefydliad arall, pe baech wedi clywed yn eich rôl fel Aelod Cynulliad - cymeraf ymyriad mewn munud - pe baech wedi clywed am sefydliad arall, lle rydych yn aelod o bwyllgorau amrywiol ac rydych yn craffu ar waith y sefydliad hwnnw, na fuasech yn dwyn y sefydliad hwnnw i gyfrif ynglŷn â'r cyhuddiadau a wnaed ac yn cymryd datganiadau tystion gan y bobl a wnaeth y cyhuddiadau hynny?