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English: I'm grateful to you for your words on that. My point was a distinct one - that we should be seeking the devolution of these matters, not simply calling on the UK Government to take action on these matters. If we're serious about having integrated public transport, then it is only the Welsh Government that has the position to be able to take decisions, both on rail infrastructure and on other areas of infrastructure, that can make integrated public transport a reality.
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar ichi am eich geiriau ynghylch hynny. Roedd fy mhwynt yn un pendant - y dylem fod yn ceisio datganoli'r materion hyn, nid dim ond galw ar Lywodraeth y DU i weithredu ar y materion hyn. Os ydym o ddifrif ynghylch cael trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus integredig, dim ond Llywodraeth Cymru sydd mewn sefyllfa i allu gwneud penderfyniadau, ar seilwaith y rheilffyrdd ac ar feysydd eraill o seilwaith, a all wneud trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus integredig yn realiti.
English: The proposal is to agree amendment 1. Does any Member object? [ Objection.] Object. I will therefore defer voting until voting time.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw: a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 1? A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [ Gwrthwynebiad.] Felly, gohiriaf y bleidlais tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: And that brings us to voting time for the debate on the M4 corridor around Newport. Therefore, the first vote is on amendment 1, tabled in the name of Caroline Jones. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 14, no abstentions, 37 against. Therefore, amendment 1 is not agreed.
Welsh: Ac rŷn ni yn cyrraedd y cyfnod pleidleisio ar gyfer y ddadl ar goridor yr M4 o gwmpas Casnewydd. Felly, mae'r bleidlais gyntaf ar welliant 1, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Caroline Jones. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 14, neb yn ymatal, 37 yn erbyn. Felly, gwrthodwyd gwelliant 1.
English: Amendment 2 is next. I call for a vote on amendment 2, tabled in the name of Darren Millar. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, no abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, amendment 2 is not agreed.
Welsh: Gwelliant 2 sydd nesaf. Galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 2, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Darren Millar. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 24, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Felly, mae gwelliant 2 wedi'i wrthod.
English: The next vote is amendment 3, tabled in the name of Darren Millar. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 24, no abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, amendment 3 is not agreed.
Welsh: Mae'r bleidlais nesaf ar welliant 3 a gyflwynwyd yn enw Darren Millar. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 24, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Felly, gwrthodwyd gwelliant 3.
English: Amendment 4 is next, tabled, again, in the name of Darren Millar. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 13, two abstentions, 36 against. Therefore, amendment 4 is not agreed.
Welsh: Gwelliant 4 yw'r nesaf, a gyflwynwyd, eto, yn enw Darren Millar. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 13, dau yn ymatal, 36 yn erbyn. Felly, gwrthodwyd gwelliant 4.
English: Amendment 5 is next, in the name of Caroline Jones. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 15, nine abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, amendment 5 is not agreed.
Welsh: Gwelliant 5 yw'r nesaf, yn enw Caroline Jones. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 15, naw yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Felly, gwrthodwyd gwelliant 5.
English: Amendment 6 - I call for a vote on amendment 6, tabled in the name of Rhun ap Iorwerth. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 19, one abstention, 31 against. Therefore, amendment 6 is not agreed.
Welsh: Gwelliant 6 - galwaf am bleidlais ar welliant 6, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Rhun ap Iorwerth. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 19, un yn ymatal, 31 yn erbyn. Felly, gwrthodwyd gwelliant 6.
English: The final vote is, therefore, on the motion unamended. So, a vote on the motion. Open the vote. Close the vote. In favour 27, 14 abstentions, 10 against. Therefore, the motion is agreed.
Welsh: Mae'r bleidlais olaf, felly, ar y cynnig heb ei ddiwygio. Felly, pleidlais ar y cynnig. Agor y bleidlais. Cau'r bleidlais. O blaid 27, 14 yn ymatal, 10 yn erbyn. Felly, mae'r cynnig wedi'i dderbyn.
English: I will now suspend the session for five minutes. We will recommence at 5.45 p.m. I suspend the session.
Welsh: Dwi'n gohirio'r sesiwn nawr am bum munud. Fe fyddwn ni'n ailddechrau am 5.45 p.m. Gohiriaf y sesiwn.
English: If I can call Members to order, then I will proceed with Stage 3 of the Legislation (Wales) Bill.
Welsh: Os gallaf alw'r Aelodau i drefn, yna byddaf yn bwrw ymlaen â Chyfnod 3 o Fil Deddfwriaeth (Cymru).
English: And we move to group 1, and the first group of amendments relate to the definitions in Part 1 of the Bill. The lead amendment in this group is amendment 13, and I call on Dai Lloyd to move and speak to the lead amendment and the other amendments in this group - Dai.
Welsh: A symudwn i grŵp 1, ac mae'r grŵp cyntaf o welliannau yn ymwneud â'r diffiniadau yn Rhan 1 y Bil. Y prif welliant yn y grŵp hwn yw gwelliant 13, a galwaf ar Dai Lloyd i gynnig a siarad am y prif welliant a'r gwelliannau eraill yn y grŵp hwn - Dai.
English: No, he's sat down. He's finished. Sorry. [ Interruption.] No, no, sorry. He's sat down. Sorry. Can I call the Counsel General?
Welsh: Na, mae e' wedi eistedd i lawr. Mae e' wedi gorffen. Mae'n ddrwg gen i. [ Torri ar draws.] Na, na, mae'n ddrwg gen i. Mae e'n eistedd i lawr. Mae'n ddrwg gen i. A gaf i alw'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol?
English: Thank you. Can I now call Dai Lloyd to reply to the debate?
Welsh: Diolch. A gaf i yn awr alw ar Dai Lloyd i ymateb i'r ddadl?
English: Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer. May I thank Suzy, Mark and the Counsel General for their comments on the amendments? I don't intend to speak again during this debate, so, as well as recognising that there has been some co-operation behind the scenes to adapt these amendments before us today, I would wish to see them passed, particularly the one in my name, which does emphasise and define accessibility, as the Counsel General has explained. I'd like to thank everyone for their supportive comments, and I thank the Counsel General too for his support. We will also be supporting other amendments, but we will push this to a vote and hope to see everyone supporting the amendment in my name. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Dirprwy Lywydd. A allaf i ddiolch i Suzy a Mark a hefyd i'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol am eu sylwadau ar y gwelliannau? Dwi ddim yn bwriadu siarad eto yn y drafodaeth yma chwaith, felly, yn ogystal â chydnabod unwaith eto fod yna gryn dipyn o gydweithio wedi bod yn mynd ymlaen y tu ôl i'r llenni i addasu'r gwelliannau yma sydd gerbron, mi fuaswn i'n dymuno gweld pasio'r gwelliant yn fy enw i, sydd yn pwysleisio ac yn diffinio hygyrchedd, fel y mae'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol wedi'i olrhain. Diolch i bawb am ei sylwadau cefnogol, a diolch i'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol hefyd am ei gefnogaeth. Byddwn ni hefyd yn cefnogi'r gwelliannau eraill, ond rwyf hefyd yn gwthio hwn i bleidlais ac yn dymuno gweld pawb yn cefnogi pasio'r gwelliant sydd yn fy enw i. Diolch yn fawr.
English: Thank you. The question is that amendment 13 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, in accordance with Standing Order 12.36, amendment 13 is agreed.
Welsh: Diolch. Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 13. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36, caiff gwelliant 13 ei dderbyn.
English: Group 2 - the next group of amendments relates to a programme to improve the accessibility of Welsh law. The lead and the only amendment in this group is amendment 1, and I call on Suzy Davies to move and speak to that amendment - Suzy.
Welsh: Grŵp 2 - mae'r grŵp nesaf o welliannau yn ymwneud â rhaglen i wella hygyrchedd cyfraith Cymru. Y prif welliant a'r unig welliant yn y grŵp hwn yw gwelliant 1, a galwaf ar Suzy Davies i gynnig a siarad am y gwelliant hwnnw - Suzy.
English: Can I call the Counsel General?
Welsh: A gaf i alw ar y Cwnsler Cyffredinol?
English: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd, and can I thank the Counsel General? I actually thought his letter to the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee was very helpful. It's always encouraging to get ministerial commitments to any activity that is promoted here by the Assembly Members themselves, but, again, I have to ask, as I would always do in these circumstances, if you're so prepared to commit, why not commit to the duty to do this. The only reason I was asking for this, really, was because when something is on the face of the Bill, it gives rise to the possibility for regulations under the secondary legislation being raised on the back of it, and, when that happens, it's another opportunity for Assembly Members to scrutinise what the Welsh Government is hoping to do. So, while, of course, I do welcome the commitment that you have given, I just think I could have tested your good graces that tiny bit further and asked you to have accepted this. Thank you.
Welsh: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd, ac a gaf i ddiolch i'r Cwnsler Cyffredinol? Roeddwn i'n credu bod ei lythyr at y Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol yn ddefnyddiol iawn mewn gwirionedd. Mae bob amser yn galonogol cael ymrwymiadau gweinidogol i unrhyw weithgaredd a hyrwyddir yn y fan yma gan Aelodau'r Cynulliad eu hunain, ond, unwaith eto, mae'n rhaid i mi ofyn, fel y byddwn bob amser yn ei wneud o dan yr amgylchiadau hyn, os ydych chi mor barod i ymrwymo, pam nad ymrwymo i'r ddyletswydd i wneud hyn. Yr unig reswm yr oeddwn i'n gofyn am hyn, mewn gwirionedd, oedd oherwydd pan fydd rhywbeth ar wyneb y Bil, mae'n peri'r posibilrwydd y bydd rheoliadau o dan yr is-ddeddfwriaeth yn cael eu codi ar sail hynny, a phan fydd hynny'n digwydd, mae'n gyfle arall i Aelodau'r Cynulliad graffu ar yr hyn y mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn gobeithio ei wneud. Felly, er fy mod i, wrth gwrs, yn croesawu'r ymrwymiad yr ydych chi wedi ei roi, rwy'n credu y gallwn i fod wedi rhoi ychydig bach mwy o bwysau ar ennill eich ffafr a gofyn i chi dderbyn hyn. Diolch.
English: The question is that amendment 1 be agreed to. Does any Member object? [ Objection. ] Therefore, we proceed to an electronic vote. Open the vote. Close the vote. For the amendment 24, no abstentions, 27 against. Therefore, amendment 1 is not agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 1. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? [ Gwrthwynebiad. ] Felly, symudwn ymlaen at bleidlais electronig. Agorwch y bleidlais. Caewch y bleidlais. O blaid gwelliant 24, neb yn ymatal, 27 yn erbyn. Felly, gwrthodwyd gwelliant 1.
English: The question is that amendment 14 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 14 is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 14. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbynnir gwelliant 14 yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36.
English: We move on to group 3. This next group of amendments relates to the effects of the provisions in Part 2 of the Bill. The lead amendment in this group is amendment 3. I call on the Counsel General to move and speak to the lead amendment and the other amendments in the group. Counsel General.
Welsh: Symudwn ymlaen i grŵp 3. Mae'r grŵp nesaf hwn o welliannau yn ymwneud ag effeithiau'r darpariaethau yn Rhan 2 o'r Bil. Y prif welliant yn y grŵp hwn yw gwelliant 3. Galwaf ar y Cwnsler Cyffredinol i gynnig a siarad am y prif welliant a'r gwelliannau eraill yn y grŵp. Cwnsler Cyffredinol.
English: Thank you. I have no speakers, therefore the question is that amendment 3 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, the amendment is agreed in accordance with Standing Order 12.36.
Welsh: Diolch. Nid oes gennyf siaradwyr, felly y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 3. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbynnir y gwelliant yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 12.36.
English: Counsel General, amendment 4.
Welsh: Cwnsler Cyffredinol, gwelliant 4.
English: Formally moved. Thank you. The question is that amendment 4 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 4 is agreed in accordance with Standing Orders.
Welsh: Wedi'i gynnig yn ffurfiol. Diolch. Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 4. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbynnir gwelliant 4 yn unol â'r Rheolau Sefydlog.
English: The final group of amendments relates to references to EU legislation. The lead amendment in this group is amendment 5, and I call on the Counsel General to move and speak to the lead amendments and other amendments in this group. Counsel General.
Welsh: Mae'r grŵp olaf o welliannau'n ymwneud â chyfeiriadau at ddeddfwriaeth yr UE. Y prif welliant yn y grŵp hwn yw gwelliant 5, a galwaf ar y Cwnsler Cyffredinol i gynnig ac i siarad am y prif welliannau a gwelliannau eraill yn y grŵp hwn. Cwnsler Cyffredinol.
English: Thank you. Suzy Davies. No? Okay. Thank you. As there are no speakers and therefore no need to reply to the debate, the question is that amendment 5 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 5 is agreed.
Welsh: Diolch. Suzy Davies. Na? Iawn. Diolch. Gan nad oes siaradwyr ac felly nad oes angen ymateb i'r ddadl, y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 5. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 5.
English: Counsel General, amendment 6.
Welsh: Cwnsler Cyffredinol, gwelliant 6.
English: Formally. The question is that amendment 6 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 6 is agreed.
Welsh: Yn ffurfiol. Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 6. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 6.
English: Counsel General, amendment 7.
Welsh: Cwnsler Cyffredinol, gwelliant 7.
English: The question is that amendment 7 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 7 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 7. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 7.
English: Counsel General, amendment 8.
Welsh: Cwnsler Cyffredinol, gwelliant 8.
English: The question is that amendment 8 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 8 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 8. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 8.
English: Counsel General, amendment 9.
Welsh: Cwnsler Cyffredinol, gwelliant 9.
English: The question is that amendment 9 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 9 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 9. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 9.
English: Counsel General, amendment 10.
Welsh: Cwnsler Cyffredinol, gwelliant 10.
English: The question is that amendment 10 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 10 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 10. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 10.
English: Counsel General, amendment 11.
Welsh: Cwnsler Cyffredinol, gwelliant 11.
English: The question is that amendment 11 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 11 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 11. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 11.
English: Counsel General, amendment 12.
Welsh: Cwnsler Cyffredinol, gwelliant 12.
English: The question is that amendment 12 be agreed to. Does any Member object? No. Therefore, amendment 12 is agreed.
Welsh: Y cwestiwn yw a ddylid derbyn gwelliant 12. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu? Na. Felly, derbyniwyd gwelliant 12.
English: We have reached the end of our Stage 3 consideration of the Legislation (Wales) Bill. I declare that all sections and schedules of the Bill are deemed agreed. That concludes Stage 3 proceedings, and it also concludes today's proceedings as well. Thank you.
Welsh: Rydym wedi dod i ddiwedd ein hystyriaeth Cyfnod 3 o Fil Deddfwriaeth (Cymru). Rwy'n datgan y bernir bod pob adran ac atodlen o'r Bil wedi'u derbyn. Daw hynny â thrafodion Cyfnod 3 i ben, ac mae hefyd yn dod â thrafodion heddiw i ben. Diolch.
English: What about the Welsh language in the health board?
Welsh: Beth am yr iaith Gymraeg yn y bwrdd iechyd?
English: There are two of us.
Welsh: Mae yna ddau ohonom ni.
English: Any declarations of interest to make? I see there are none.
Welsh: Datgan buddiannau - oes gan unrhyw un rhywbeth i'w ddatgan yma heddiw? Na.
English: So, we will move on immediately to item 2, which is the teaching of Welsh history, culture and heritage, an evidence session with Dr Elin Jones. Welcome once again today. As is our custom, if you are aware or not, we ask our questions on the basis of various themes. So, if you're happy, we'll dive straight into questions. And thank you once again for joining us. We spoke to you in Swansea when we had an engagement session in relation to Welsh history. And I'll begin by asking about the current curriculum. Do you believe that there has been an improvement since the task and finish group's report was published in 2013? And how do you believe that those improvements have affected schools in Wales?
Welsh: Felly, dŷn ni'n gallu symud ymlaen yn syth at eitem 2 - addysgu hanes, diwylliant a threftadaeth Cymru, sesiwn dystiolaeth gyda Dr Elin Jones. Croeso i chi atom heddiw. Dŷn ni fel arfer, os nad ŷch chi'n ymwybodol, yn gofyn cwestiynau ar sail themâu gwahanol. Felly, os yw hi'n iawn gyda chi, awn ni'n syth i mewn i gwestiynau. Diolch eto am ddod i mewn atom. Dŷn ni wedi siarad gyda chi yn Abertawe pan wnaethom ni gael sesiwn cysylltiol ynglŷn â hanes Cymru. Mae fy nghwestiwn cychwynnol i ynglŷn â'r cwricwlwm ar hyn o bryd. Ydych chi'n credu bod yna welliant wedi bod ers cyhoeddi adroddiad y grŵp gorchwyl a gorffen yn 2013? A sut ydych chi'n credu bod y gwelliannau hynny wedi effeithio ar ysgolion yng Nghymru?
English: That's an interesting question, Bethan, but I don't know exactly what you have in mind, because there has been no new curriculum published other than the one published in 2008. Some changes have been made, placing greater emphasis on numeracy, literacy and digital literacy. We now have a draft curriculum, but I'm not aware of any substantial changes from the point of view of the teaching of history over the past seven years.
Welsh: Mae hynny'n gwestiwn diddorol, Bethan, ond dwi ddim yn gwybod beth yn union sydd gyda chi mewn golwg, oherwydd does dim cwricwlwm arall gyda ni ond yr un gafodd ei gyhoeddi'n wreiddiol yn 2008. Mae newidiadau wedi cael eu gwneud, o ran rhoi pwyslais mwy ar lythrennedd a rhifedd a llythrennedd digidol. Mae gyda ni nawr gwricwlwm drafft newydd, ond dwi ddim yn ymwybodol o unrhyw newidiadau o sylwedd o safbwynt dysgu hanes yn y saith mlynedd diwethaf yma.
English: I know that certain things have happened, but not in terms of the formality of the curriculum or what happens within schools.
Welsh: Rwy'n gwybod bod yna bethau wedi digwydd, ond nid o ran ffurfioldeb y cwricwlwm a'r hyn sy'n digwydd mewn ysgolion.
English: Okay. So, just in terms of the present, would any changes be possible to the curriculum at is stands, given that there are going to be changes to the curriculum in 2022? Do you believe that there is a need for them? Perhaps you don't think there is a need.
Welsh: Ocê. Jest o ran y presennol, a fyddai unrhyw newidiadau yn bosibl i'r cwricwlwm ar hyn o bryd, o feddwl bod y newidiadau i'r cwricwlwm yn mynd i ddigwydd yn 2022? Neu ydych chi'n credu bod angen? Efallai eich bod chi o'r farn nad oes angen.
English: I do apologise, I'd never considered this point. Are you looking at history, or the curriculum as a whole?
Welsh: Mae'n flin gyda fi, doeddwn i byth wedi meddwl am hyn. O safbwynt hanes, neu o safbwynt y cwricwlwm cyfan?
English: History specifically.
Welsh: Hanes yn benodol.
English: We have written to the Minister, asking whether she would like to speak to Estyn in terms of a thematic review on this. Would you support that suggestion? Because if we don't know now what is happening with a more prescriptive education system, with Donaldson it's becoming even more flexible. So, would you agree that something like that would be useful?
Welsh: Rŷn ni wedi ysgrifennu at y Gweinidog yn gofyn a fyddai hi'n hoffi siarad ag Estyn ynglŷn â gwneud adolygiad thematig. Fyddech chi'n cefnogi hynny? Achos os nad ydyn ni'n gwybod nawr beth sy'n digwydd gyda'r system addysg yn fwy prescriptive, gyda Donaldson mae e'n mynd hyd yn oed yn fwy hyblyg. Felly, fyddech chi'n cytuno byddai rhywbeth fel yna'n ddefnyddiol?
English: I would urge you and the Minister to do that. Estyn did undertake specific subject reviews over a period of many years, but that came to an end years ago. I, personally, would welcome such an approach. And in the written evidence, I mentioned the risks of that debate, which can be highly emotional, and the lack of evidence to support any claims made, and that's what concerns me.
Welsh: Byddwn i'n crefu arnoch chi a chrefu ar y Gweinidog hefyd i wneud hynny. Roedd Estyn yn cynnal arolygon pwnc penodol am flynyddoedd, ond rhoddwyd y gorau i hynny flynyddoedd yn ôl. Byddwn i'n bersonol yn croesawu hynny. Ond yn y dystiolaeth ysgrifenedig, roeddwn i'n sôn am beryglon y drafodaeth, sydd yn gallu bod yn emosiynol iawn, a diffyg tystiolaeth i ategu unrhyw honiad, a dyna beth sydd yn fy mecso i.
English: Thank you very much. We'll move on, therefore, to history in the new curriculum. John Griffiths. Thank you.
Welsh: Grêt. Diolch yn fawr iawn. Symud ymlaen, felly, at hanes yn y cwricwlwm newydd. John Griffiths. Diolch.
English: Thank you very much, Chair. Thank you for the evidence you provided beforehand and also all the leadership you've shown in this area for some years.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, Gadeirydd. Diolch yn fawr iawn am eich tystiolaeth ymlaen llaw, a hefyd wrth gwrs am eich arweiniad yn y maes hyn dros rai blynyddoedd.
English: We won't go down that route now - too much chronological awareness. [ Laughter. ]
Welsh: Fe wnawn ni ddim mynd lawr y trywydd yna nawr - gormod o ymwybyddiaeth gronolegol. [ Chwerthin. ]
English: This is a hot topic, as you will know, and we have had quite heated debates in this place from time to time and we do often have discussions about how much encouragement there should be - setting specific subjects or areas of Welsh history to compare and contrast with the history of Britain, or the place of Welsh history within British history and empires and so forth. Now, in the context of the new curriculum, whenever we ask questions as AMs - because we do receive so many e-mails and correspondence, even letters, perhaps, as was the case before e-mails - about whether there should be more Welsh history being taught to Welsh pupils - . But whenever we raise those questions, they say, 'Well, there's a new curriculum and greater flexibility'. So, do you see opportunities with this new curriculum, something that offers an opportunity to be broader, or do you see this offering a challenge and being so flexible that no Welsh history is being taught? What do you think?
Welsh: Wrth gwrs, mae hyn, fel rŷch chi'n ei ddweud, yn bwnc llosg, a dŷn ni'n gallu cael trafodaethau gweddol danbaid yn y lle hwn o bryd i'w gilydd, a dŷn ni wastad yn cael rhyw fath o drafodaeth ynglŷn â faint o anogaeth ddylai fod - hynny yw, pennu pynciau penodol hanes Cymru i'w cymharu neu i'w cyferbynnu efo hanes Prydain, neu leoliad hanes Cymru o fewn hanes Prydain ac ymerodraethau ac ati. Nawr, wrth gwrs, yng nghyd-destun y cwricwlwm newydd, bob tro dŷn ni'n gofyn cwestiynau fel Aelodau Cynulliad - achos dŷn ni'n derbyn cynifer o e-byst ac ati, a llythyrau yn yr hen ddyddiau, wrth gwrs, cyn e-byst - ynglŷn ag a ddylen ni fod yn dysgu mwy o hanes Cymru i ddisgyblion Cymru - . Bob tro byddwn ni, yn naturiol, yn gofyn y cwestiwn yn fan hyn: 'Wel, mae'r cwricwlwm newydd, mae yna fwy o hyblygrwydd' ac ati. So, fyddech chi'n gweld cyfleon efo cwricwlwm newydd sydd yn cynnig cyfle i fod yn eang neu ydych chi'n gweld efallai bod yna her, ddywedwn ni, efo'r holl hyblygrwydd yma, i fod mor hyblyg fel bod yna nemor ddim o hanes Cymru yn cael ei addysgu? Beth dŷch chi'n ei feddwl?