English: I, too, would like to offer my condolences to those who lost their lives in this tragic circumstance. I'd also like to praise the Welsh volunteers who were in the media today and who have gone and helped those at Grenfell, and I would like to encourage that to happen. Where we can see that there is human tragedy across borders, then we should try and help others, as far as I'm concerned. But it is also a message to us all that we need to be proactive in these issues, and we shouldn't be reactive when it comes to issues like safety. It's important that we are at the front of the political agenda in this regard. Many of my comments or questions are in relation to your consultation on 'Building Regulations Update - Approved Documents A, B & C' from last year. Part B relates to fire safety in particular. In that consultation, it was noted that the consultation proposed, and I quote, the same changes as the Department of Communities and Local Government have made in England. The English impact assessment identified significant benefits, one of those being reduced costs to development and manufacturers, together with energy efficiency and carbon savings. Now, can you tell me that you're absolutely satisfied that these savings do not compromise safety in England and would not compromise safety here in Wales? We know, sometimes, that costs seem to override other things, and, in this instance, as we know from this occasion, it should not come before safety. The sections relating to lighting notes there are some issues, because certain types of lighting are more susceptible to causing fire, yet are more energy efficient, and I quote: 'This presents a growing conflict between the provisions for fire safety and those for energy efficiency.' Can the Cabinet Secretary clarify the regulations and any plans relating to lighting installation safety in particular? In this particular consultation, as well, you responded as a Government saying that it was awaiting outcomes from a European Commission project into the regulation of smoke and toxic gas before making any revisions regulating this. Has your position now changed on that particular issue? As has been mentioned earlier, Wales has led the way in terms of sprinkler provision to some extent, and I know that Ann Jones deserves praise for that. We know, as David Melding has said, that housing authorities are installing sprinkler systems in many areas, and Community Housing Cymru has sent us that briefing. But this still hasn't happened in many of them and we need to make sure that this does happen. So, do you have any plans to strengthen regulations regarding the installation of sprinklers, and have you had any discussions regarding making more funding available for that to take place in older buildings? In the communities committee, you came and we scrutinised you last September, and I asked you specifically about safety regulations regarding appliance and device fires, as there has been a rise in fires relating to these issues. It was also noted that Electrical Safety First has been lobbying you on this for some time. You implied to the committee that you didn't see legislation as being required as certain aspects were covered previously as part of the wider housing Bill. As a precautionary measure - as I started this statement by saying - to try and be proactive, will you now commit to looking into how electrical safety and the risks associated with appliance and device fires potentially need changing, or if there's anything you can do in terms of improved regulation? I note that there is going to be an inquiry in London, of course, and I would be interested to find out, when the parameters of that inquiry come into play, how you will be feeding into that inquiry on a Wales basis. I note too that Scotland has set up its own review. I'm wondering why you've opted for an expert group over carrying out a root-and-branch review in Wales. I understand that they will be trying to do that in a different way, but can you just satisfy me as to why you haven't decided to do a review in and of itself, and how this expert group will take into regard the issues with regard to this consultation? Because I, personally, don't know where many of the issues that were raised in the building regulations update consultation have gone, and I don't think we can now rest on our laurels. We have to make sure that this becomes a political priority, perhaps in tragic circumstances, yes, but then it can stop anything like this ever happening again, and make sure as well that tenants feel listened to. Because I think, from watching the news, that seemed to be one of the biggest concerns - tenants did raise concerns. We have to make sure that we have avenues in place for tenants to feel that they can make those complaints without feeling that they will be reprimanded in any way, because they're only raising those concerns for the safety of themselves and for the safety of their neighbours.
Welsh: Hoffwn i hefyd estyn fy nghydymdeimlad â'r rhai a gollodd eu bywydau yn yr amgylchiadau trasig. Hoffwn i hefyd ganmol y gwirfoddolwyr o Gymru a oedd yn y cyfryngau heddiw ac sydd wedi mynd i helpu'r rheini yn Grenfell, a hoffwn i annog hynny. Pan allwn weld bod trasiedi ddynol mewn gwlad arall, yna fe ddylem ni geisio helpu eraill. Dyna fy marn i. Ond mae hefyd yn neges i bawb ohonom fod angen i ni fod yn rhagweithiol yn y materion hyn, ac na ddylem ni fod yn adweithiol gyda materion fel diogelwch. Mae'n bwysig ein bod ar flaen yr agenda wleidyddol yn hyn o beth. Mae llawer o fy sylwadau neu gwestiynau mewn cysylltiad â'ch ymgynghoriad ar y ddogfen 'Diweddariad ynglŷn â Rheoliadau Adeiladu - Dogfennau Cymeradwy A, B ac C' ers y llynedd. Mae Rhan B yn ymwneud â diogelwch tân yn benodol. Yn yr ymgynghoriad hwnnw, nodwyd bod yr ymgynghoriad arfaethedig yn cynnig, ac rwy'n dyfynnu, yr un newidiadau a wnaed gan yr Adran Cymunedau a Llywodraeth Leol yn Lloegr. Nododd yr asesiad effaith yn Lloegr fanteision sylweddol. Un o'r rhain oedd llai o gostau i ddatblygu ac i weithgynhyrchwyr, ynghyd ag effeithlonrwydd ynni ac arbedion carbon. Nawr, a allwch chi ddweud wrthyf i eich bod yn hollol fodlon nad yw'r arbedion hyn yn cyfaddawdu diogelwch yn Lloegr ac na fydden nhw'n peryglu diogelwch yma yng Nghymru? Rydym ni'n gwybod, weithiau, bod y costau yn ymddangos yn bwysicach na phethau eraill, ac, yn yr achos hwn, fel y gwyddom ni o'r achlysur hwn, ni ddylai ddod o flaen diogelwch. Mae'r adrannau sy'n ymwneud â goleuadau yn nodi bod peth problemau, gan fod rhai mathau o oleuadau yn fwy tebygol o achosi tân, ac eto yn fwy effeithlon o ran ynni, ac rwy'n dyfynnu: 'Mae hyn yn creu gwrthdaro cynyddol rhwng y darpariaethau ar gyfer diogelwch tân a'r rhai ar gyfer effeithlonrwydd ynni.' A all Ysgrifennydd y Cabinet egluro'r rheoliadau ac unrhyw gynlluniau yn ymwneud â gosod goleuadau diogelwch yn benodol? Yn yr ymgynghoriad penodol hwn, hefyd, ymatebodd y Llywodraeth gan ddweud ei bod yn aros am ganlyniadau o brosiect y Comisiwn Ewropeaidd ynghylch rheoleiddio mwg a nwyon gwenwynig cyn gwneud unrhyw ddiwygiadau ynglŷn â rheoleiddio hyn. A yw eich safbwynt wedi newid bellach ar y mater penodol hwnnw? Fel y soniwyd yn gynharach, mae Cymru wedi arwain y ffordd o ran darparu system chwistrellu i ryw raddau, ac fe wn i fod Ann Jones yn haeddu clod am hynny. Rydym ni'n gwybod, fel y mae David Melding wedi dweud, bod awdurdodau tai yn gosod systemau chwistrellu mewn sawl ardal, ac mae Cartrefi Cymunedol Cymru wedi ein diweddaru. Ond mae hyn yn dal heb ddigwydd mewn llawer lle ac mae angen i ni wneud yn siŵr bod hyn yn digwydd. Felly, oes gennych chi unrhyw gynlluniau i gryfhau rheoliadau ynghylch gosod chwistrellwyr, ac a ydych chi wedi cael unrhyw drafodaethau ynghylch sicrhau mwy o arian er mwyn gwneud hynny mewn adeiladau hŷn? Fe wnaethoch chi ddod i'r pwyllgor cymunedau fis Medi diwethaf ac fe holon ni chi yno, ac fe ofynnais i chi'n benodol am reoliadau diogelwch o ran tanau oherwydd peiriannau neu ddyfeisiau, oherwydd bu cynnydd mewn tanau o'r fath. Nodwyd hefyd y bu Electrical Safety First yn eich lobïo ers peth amser ynghylch hyn. Fe wnaethoch chi awgrymu i'r pwyllgor nad oeddech chi'n gweld bod angen deddfwriaeth oherwydd bod rhai agweddau wedi'u cynnwys yn flaenorol fel rhan o'r Mesur Tai ehangach. Fel rhagbaratoad - ac fel y soniais ar ddechrau'r datganiad hwn - i geisio bod yn rhagweithiol, a fyddwch chi nawr yn ymrwymo i edrych ar sut o bosib mae angen newid diogelwch trydanol a'r peryglon sy'n gysylltiedig â thanau yn ymwneud â pheiriannau neu ddyfeisiau, neu a oes unrhyw beth y gallwch chi ei wneud o ran gwell rheoleiddio? Nodaf y bydd ymchwiliad yn Llundain, wrth gwrs, a byddai gennyf ddiddordeb gwybod, pan sefydlir rhychwant yr ymchwiliad hwnnw, sut y byddwch chi'n cyfrannu at yr ymchwiliad o safbwynt Cymru. Nodaf hefyd fod yr Alban wedi sefydlu ei adolygiad ei hun. Pam y gwnaethoch chi ddewis grŵp arbenigol yn hytrach na chynnal adolygiad cynhwysfawr yng Nghymru. Deallaf y byddant yn ceisio gwneud hynny mewn ffordd wahanol, ond allwch chi fy sicrhau i ynghylch pam nad ydych chi wedi penderfynu gwneud adolygiad yn ei hawl ei hun ac o ran ei hun, a sut y bydd y grŵp arbenigol hwn yn ystyried y materion mewn perthynas â'r ymgynghoriad hwn? Oherwydd, yn bersonol, wn i ddim beth sydd wedi digwydd i lawer o'r materion a godwyd yn yr ymgynghoriad ar y diweddariad ynghylch rheoliadau adeiladu, ac nid wyf yn meddwl y gallwn ni nawr orffwys ar ein rhwyfau. Mae'n rhaid i ni wneud yn siŵr bod hyn yn dod yn flaenoriaeth wleidyddol, efallai mewn amgylchiadau trasig, ie, ond fe all hynny atal unrhyw beth fel hyn rhag digwydd byth eto, a gwneud yn siŵr yn ogystal, bod tenantiaid yn teimlo eu bod yn cael gwrandawiad teg. Oherwydd rwy'n credu, o wylio'r newyddion, mai dyna oedd un o'r pryderon ymddangosiadol mwyaf - roedd tenantiaid wedi codi pryderon. Mae'n rhaid i ni wneud yn siŵr bod gennym ni fodd i alluogi tenantiaid i deimlo y gallan nhw wneud y cwynion hynny heb deimlo y byddan nhw'n cael eu collfarnu mewn unrhyw ffordd. Maen nhw ond yn codi'r pryderon hynny er eu diogelwch eu hunain ac er diogelwch eu cymdogion.