English: Well, Llywydd, of course there are alternatives to the policies that entrench poverty, and my party has consistently advocated for those policies. Devolution is the line of defence against the worst impacts of those policies. Our policies are supplementing the social wage of families here in Wales - all the things that we collectively provide, which otherwise people would have to find from their own pockets. Free prescriptions is just a single example of that. We've forgotten what it's like in Wales to have to weigh up which of three prescriptions you can afford to pay for because you cannot afford to pay for them all, because families in Wales no longer face that dilemma. Families in Wales are up to £2,000 every year better off because of that string of decisions that successive Governments have made here in Wales that leaves money in people's pockets. That's a real defence. That's a real defence that, every single day, families in Wales feel, because they have money to do things that, in other circumstances - were it not for the actions that the Senedd has taken, that money would not be there for them to make those decisions. So, I don't think that it helps anybody to act as though devolution had been no help to anybody, because it has been an enormous help, year in and year out, to families in every part of Wales. Llywydd, I do believe that, properly run, the benefits system should be part of what binds the United Kingdom together. The fact that pensions are paid in Wales in the way that they are does not depend for a moment on Wales alone. It depends upon that far bigger pool of risks that are placed into that pool, and then rewards shared out between us. That's just one example of the way in which a UK-wide benefits system continues to be to the advantage of Welsh people. It could be far more to our advantage, of course, if there was a Government with a genuine commitment to redistribution, to using the engine of redistribution that the social security system should be. But, the fact that a temporary occupation of Government by a single party doesn't deliver that should not be mistaken for the potential that that system has to deliver those benefits for Welsh people.
Welsh: Wel, Llywydd, wrth gwrs mae dewisiadau amgen i'r polisïau sy'n ymwreiddio tlodi, ac mae fy mhlaid i wedi dadlau'n gyson dros y polisïau hynny. Datganoli yw'r llinell amddiffyn yn erbyn effeithiau gwaethaf y polisïau hynny. Mae ein polisïau yn ychwanegu at gyflog cymdeithasol teuluoedd yma yng Nghymru - yr holl bethau yr ydym yn eu darparu ar y cyd, y byddai'n rhaid i bobl ddod o hyd iddyn nhw fel arall o'u pocedi eu hunain. Dim ond un enghraifft o hynny yw presgripsiynau am ddim. Rydym wedi anghofio sut beth yw gorfod pwyso a mesur pa un o dri phresgripsiwn y gallwch fforddio talu amdano oherwydd na allwch fforddio talu amdanyn nhw i gyd, oherwydd nad yw teuluoedd yng Nghymru bellach yn wynebu'r cyfyng-gyngor hwnnw. Mae teuluoedd yng Nghymru hyd at £2,000 bob blwyddyn yn well eu byd oherwydd y gyfres honno o benderfyniadau y mae Llywodraethau olynol wedi'u gwneud yma yng Nghymru sy'n gadael arian ym mhocedi pobl. Mae hwnnw'n amddiffyniad gwirioneddol. Mae hwnnw'n amddiffyniad gwirioneddol y mae teuluoedd yng Nghymru yn ei deimlo, oherwydd bod ganddyn nhw arian na fyddai ganddyn nhw mewn amgylchiadau eraill - oni bai am y camau y mae'r Senedd wedi'u cymryd, ni fyddai'r arian hwnnw yno iddyn nhw allu gwneud y penderfyniadau hynny. Felly, nid wyf i'n credu ei fod yn helpu neb i weithredu fel pe na byddai datganoli wedi bod o gymorth i neb, oherwydd mae wedi bod o gymorth enfawr, flwyddyn ar ôl blwyddyn, i deuluoedd ym mhob rhan o Gymru. Llywydd, rwy'n credu y dylai'r system fudd-daliadau, o gael ei rhedeg yn briodol, fod yn rhan o'r hyn sy'n rhwymo'r Deyrnas Unedig gyda'i gilydd. Nid yw'r ffaith fod pensiynau yn cael eu talu yng Nghymru yn y ffordd y maen nhw yn dibynnu am eiliad ar Gymru yn unig. Mae'n dibynnu ar y gronfa lawer mwy honno o risgiau sy'n cael eu rhoi yn y gronfa honno, ac yna gwobrau yn cael eu rhannu rhyngom. Dim ond un enghraifft yw honno o'r ffordd y mae system fudd-daliadau ledled y DU yn parhau i fod er budd pobl Cymru. Gallai fod yn llawer mwy manteisiol i ni, wrth gwrs, pe byddai Llywodraeth gydag ymrwymiad gwirioneddol i ailddosbarthu, i ddefnyddio'r peiriant ailddosbarthu y dylai'r system nawdd cymdeithasol fod. Ond, ni ddylid camgymryd y ffaith fod un blaid mewn Llywodraeth dros dro yn methu â chyflawni hynny am y potensial sydd gan y system honno i sicrhau'r manteision hynny i bobl Cymru.