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English: Therefore, I'd like to move a motion under Standing Order 17.22, I believe, to elect a temporary Chair. I propose David Melding, if that's okay. Is everyone content? Thank you very much. I thought that somebody was going to disagree with that nomination, then. [ Laughter.]
Welsh: Felly, hoffwn i symud cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.22, rwy'n credu, i ethol Cadeirydd dros dro yn y cyfarfod nesaf. Dwi'n cynnig David Melding, os yw pawb yn hapus gyda hynny, ar gyfer wythnos nesaf. Ocê? Diolch. Roeddwn i'n meddwl bod rhywun yn mynd i anghytuno, wedyn. [ Chwerthin.]
English: Everyone was just smiling.
Welsh: Roedd pawb jest yn gwenu.
English: Everyone was just smiling to give their consent - [ Interruption.] Yes, a hustings. No, thank you. Right, thank you very much.
Welsh: Jest yn gwenu mewn hapusrwydd - [ Torri ar draws.] Ie, hustings. Dim diolch. Reit, felly, diolch am hynny.
English: We'll move on now to item 5, which is the motion under Standing Order to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting. Thank you.
Welsh: Symud ymlaen at eitem 5, cynnig o dan Reol Sefydlog i wahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod. Diolch.
English: The first item on our agenda is questions to the finance Minister. The first question [OAQ54853] has been withdrawn, and therefore question 2 from Darren Millar.
Welsh: Yr eitem gyntaf ar ein hagenda ni yw'r cwestiynau i'r Gweinidog cyllid. Mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf [OAQ54853] wedi cael ei dynnu yn ôl, ac felly cwestiwn 2 gan Darren Millar.
English: Llywydd, I understand you've given your permission for questions 2 and 8 to be grouped. The Welsh Government's draft budget follows the UK Government's one-year spending round, which does not turn the page on austerity. Our budget in 2020-21 will be £300 million less in real terms than 2010-11, but, nonetheless, the Welsh Government is investing in a more prosperous, more equal and greener Wales.
Welsh: Lywydd, deallaf eich bod wedi rhoi eich caniatâd i gwestiynau 2 ac 8 gael eu grwpio. Mae cyllideb ddrafft Llywodraeth Cymru yn dilyn cylch gwario un flwyddyn Llywodraeth y DU, nad yw'n newid y sefyllfa o ran cyni. Bydd ein cyllideb yn 2020-21 £300 miliwn yn llai mewn termau real nag yn 2010-11, ond serch hynny, mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn buddsoddi mewn Cymru fwy llewyrchus, fwy cyfartal a gwyrddach.
English: Well, thanks to the UK Government, of course, you've got an extra £600 million in the budget for 2021 - 2020, is that right - 2020-21, compared to the previous financial year. And that gives you some great opportunities. One of those opportunities, of course, is to mitigate the impact of climate change, particularly around the coasts of Wales, which are at risk of flooding. Now, I do welcome the investment that has been made available for the Old Colwyn promenade in my constituency in recent months. It's not quite the amount that the local authority, Conwy County Borough Council, were looking for in order to do the proper job that is required in the longer term, but it at least will make some sort of difference to the flood risk in that particular community. But, of course, there are other parts of the north Wales coast that are also at risk, including in the Towyn and Kinmel Bay area, which, of course was devastated by floods 30 years ago this year. Can I ask specifically what resources you've made available for flood defences in the Welsh Government's budget for 2020-2021, and whether any of that which has been allocated is going to go to shore up those defences in the Towyn and Kinmel Bay area, so that we can prevent the sort of devastation we saw 30 years ago?
Welsh: Wel, diolch i Lywodraeth y DU, wrth gwrs, mae gennych £600 miliwn yn ychwanegol yn y gyllideb ar gyfer 2021 - 2020, ydy hynny'n iawn - 2020-21, o gymharu â'r flwyddyn ariannol flaenorol. Ac mae hynny'n rhoi cyfleoedd gwych i chi. Un o'r cyfleoedd hynny, wrth gwrs, yw lliniaru effaith y newid yn yr hinsawdd, yn enwedig ar arfordiroedd Cymru, lle ceir perygl o lifogydd. Nawr, croesawaf y buddsoddiad a ddarparwyd ar gyfer promenâd Hen Golwyn yn fy etholaeth yn ystod y misoedd diwethaf. Mae ychydig yn brin o'r swm y gofynnodd yr awdurdod lleol, Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Conwy, amdano er mwyn gwneud y gwaith priodol sy'n ofynnol yn y tymor hwy, ond bydd o leiaf yn gwneud rhywfaint o wahaniaeth i'r perygl llifogydd yn y gymuned honno. Ond wrth gwrs, mae rhannau eraill o arfordir gogledd Cymru mewn perygl hefyd, gan gynnwys ardal Tywyn a Bae Cinmel, a gafodd ei distrywio gan lifogydd 30 mlynedd yn ôl i eleni wrth gwrs. A gaf fi ofyn pa adnoddau penodol rydych wedi'u darparu ar gyfer amddiffynfeydd rhag llifogydd yng nghyllideb Llywodraeth Cymru ar gyfer 2020-2021, ac a fydd unrhyw gyfran o'r hyn a ddyrannwyd yn mynd tuag at wella'r amddiffynfeydd yn ardal Tywyn a Bae Cinmel, fel y gallwn atal y math o ddinistr a welsom 30 mlynedd yn ôl?
English: I'm grateful for the question, and, as I was able to set out in my statement on the draft budget yesterday, additional funding has been found for next year to provide funding to support communities at particular danger in terms of climate change and flooding, but that's on top of the additional funding that we're putting through our innovative housing programme for coastal risk management. And that's a programme worth £150 million over the course of this Assembly, which has been previously announced by my colleague the Minister for Environment and Rural Affairs. The schemes that we support are clearly the ones where the evidence base says the most need is there, but obviously I'd be happy to have conversations with Members if they have got particular concerns about areas within their own constituencies.
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar am y cwestiwn, ac fel y gallais nodi yn fy natganiad ar y gyllideb ddrafft ddoe, cafwyd cyllid ychwanegol ar gyfer y flwyddyn nesaf i ddarparu cyllid i gefnogi cymunedau sydd mewn perygl arbennig yn sgil newid hinsawdd a llifogydd, ond mae hynny ar ben yr arian ychwanegol rydym yn ei ddarparu drwy ein rhaglen tai arloesol ar gyfer rheoli risg arfordirol. Ac mae honno'n rhaglen gwerth £150 miliwn yn ystod y Cynulliad hwn, sydd wedi'i chyhoeddi eisoes gan fy nghyd-Aelod, Gweinidog yr Amgylchedd, Ynni a Materion Gwledig. Y cynlluniau rydym yn eu cefnogi, yn amlwg, yw'r rhai lle mae'r sylfaen dystiolaeth yn dweud bod yr angen mwyaf, ond yn amlwg, buaswn yn fwy na pharod i gael sgyrsiau gyda'r Aelodau os oes ganddynt bryderon penodol am ardaloedd yn eu hetholaethau eu hunain.
English: I'm grateful to you for that earlier answer, Minister. In terms of the overall budget, during our conversation in the Finance Committee before Christmas, you confirmed that there would be a real-terms cut to the funds being available to support and to sustain bus services across the country. This is something that I think many of us will find very difficult, because a Government that is committed to climate change - and I think I welcomed yesterday the funds available for climate policy - and committed also to public transport, with the legislation that the First Minister referred to yesterday as well, means that we do need to be able to provide real support for public transport, and particularly public transport in communities such as those that I and yourself represent. There is already a great deal of funding going into active travel, which I support; there is a great deal of support going to rail, which I also support. But I'm increasingly concerned that the Government does not regard bus services as a sufficient priority. The fact that it's being cut in real terms in next year's budget will be a grave disappointment to many of us on all sides of this Chamber. I'd therefore be extremely grateful, Minister, if you would consider reviewing this element of the budget to ensure that we do have the funds available to support and to sustain the bus services that link sometimes some very fragile communities with the services that they require.
Welsh: Rwy'n ddiolchgar i chi am yr ateb cynharach hwnnw, Weinidog. O ran y gyllideb gyffredinol, yn ystod ein sgwrs yn y Pwyllgor Cyllid cyn y Nadolig, gwnaethoch gadarnhau y byddai toriad mewn termau real i'r arian sydd ar gael i gefnogi ac i gynnal gwasanaethau bysiau ledled y wlad. Credaf y bydd hyn yn anodd iawn i lawer ohonom, gan fod Llywodraeth sydd wedi ymrwymo i achos newid hinsawdd - a chredaf i mi groesawu'r arian sydd ar gael ar gyfer polisi hinsawdd ddoe - ac sydd wedi ymrwymo hefyd i drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus, gyda'r ddeddfwriaeth y cyfeiriodd y Prif Weinidog ati ddoe, yn golygu bod angen i ni allu darparu cefnogaeth go iawn i drafnidiaeth gyhoeddus, ac yn arbennig, trafnidiaeth gyhoeddus mewn cymunedau fel y rhai rydych chi a mi yn eu cynrychioli. Mae llawer iawn o gyllid eisoes yn cael ei ddarparu i deithio llesol, a chefnogaf hynny; mae llawer iawn o gefnogaeth yn mynd i'r rheilffyrdd, a chefnogaf hynny hefyd. Ond rwy'n poeni fwy a mwy nad yw'r Llywodraeth yn ystyried gwasanaethau bysiau yn flaenoriaeth ddigonol. Bydd y ffaith y byddant yn cael eu torri mewn termau real yng nghyllideb y flwyddyn nesaf yn siom fawr i lawer ohonom ar bob ochr i'r Siambr hon. Buaswn yn ddiolchgar iawn felly, Weinidog, pe baech yn ystyried adolygu'r elfen hon o'r gyllideb i sicrhau bod gennym arian ar gael i gefnogi a chynnal y gwasanaethau bysiau sy'n cysylltu cymunedau bregus iawn weithiau â'r gwasanaethau sydd eu hangen arnynt.
English: It's okay. I'll move on.
Welsh: Mae'n iawn. Fe symudaf ymlaen.
English: It's not me, sorry.
Welsh: Nid fi sydd i fynd, mae'n ddrwg gennyf.
English: Question 3, David Rowlands.
Welsh: Cwestiwn 3, David Rowlands.
English: The Welsh Government operates within the budget regime set by the UK Government. Budgets are monitored closely by officials, and this includes forecasting and explaining budget variances. I receive monthly reports from the finance director, and discuss financial performance with officials. I am responsible for approving budget amendments during the year.
Welsh: Mae Llywodraeth Cymru yn gweithredu o fewn y drefn gyllidebol a bennir gan Lywodraeth y DU. Mae cyllidebau'n cael eu monitro'n agos gan swyddogion, ac mae hyn yn cynnwys rhagfynegi ac egluro amrywiannau yn y gyllideb. Rwy'n derbyn adroddiadau misol gan y cyfarwyddwr cyllid, ac yn trafod perfformiad ariannol gyda swyddogion. Rwy'n gyfrifol am gymeradwyo diwygiadau i'r gyllideb yn ystod y flwyddyn.
English: I thank you for that answer, Minister. I'd like to examine one aspect of your budget, and that is the local government settlement. With regard to that, I'd like to quote some figures to you: 2 per cent, 4.2 per cent, and 6.5 per cent. The first figure, of 2 per cent, is the UK inflation rate; the second figure, of 4.2 per cent, is the generous average increase in the budget allocated by your Government to local authorities. So, why is it, Minister, that the third figure, of 6.5 per cent, indicates the average increase in local authority council tax charges? Does this not point to poor financial management by local authorities, and should you revise your reward with regard to that?
Welsh: Diolch am eich ateb, Weinidog. Hoffwn archwilio un agwedd ar eich cyllideb, sef y setliad llywodraeth leol. Mewn perthynas â hynny, hoffwn ddyfynnu rhai ffigurau i chi: 2 y cant, 4.2 y cant, a 6.5 y cant. Y ffigur cyntaf, 2 y cant, yw cyfradd chwyddiant y DU; yr ail ffigur, 4.2 y cant, yw'r cynnydd cyfartalog hael yn y gyllideb a ddyrannwyd gan eich Llywodraeth i awdurdodau lleol. Felly pam, Weinidog, fod y trydydd ffigur, 6.5 y cant, yn nodi'r cynnydd cyfartalog yn nhreth gyngor awdurdodau lleol? Onid yw hyn yn awgrymu rheolaeth ariannol wael gan awdurdodau lleol, ac a ddylech adolygu'ch dyfarniad yn unol â hynny?
English: Well, of course, the setting of council tax is a matter for local councils themselves. And I have to say the Welsh Local Government Association have recognised the settlement that local authorities have received this year as being an exceptionally good one. And we've worked really closely with the WLGA and others in terms of setting the budget and understanding the pressures that they're under. And it was our commitment at the start to give local authorities the best possible settlement, and I think it's fair to say that many local authorities have been pleasantly surprised at the settlements that they've been able to receive. And some have indicated that the increases in council tax in their local areas won't be as large as they perhaps had first envisaged, because of the support Welsh Government has been able to give.
Welsh: Wel, wrth gwrs, mater i'r cynghorau lleol eu hunain yw pennu'r dreth gyngor. Ac mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud, mae Cymdeithas Llywodraeth Leol Cymru wedi cydnabod bod y setliad y mae awdurdodau lleol wedi'i dderbyn eleni yn un eithriadol o dda. Ac rydym wedi gweithio'n agos iawn gyda CLlLC ac eraill wrth bennu'r gyllideb, a deall y pwysau sydd arnynt. A'n hymrwymiad ers y dechrau oedd rhoi'r setliad gorau posibl i awdurdodau lleol, a chredaf ei bod yn deg dweud bod llawer o awdurdodau lleol wedi cael siom ar yr ochr orau ynghylch y setliadau y maent wedi gallu eu derbyn. Ac mae rhai wedi nodi efallai na fydd y cynnydd yn y dreth gyngor yn eu hardaloedd lleol mor fawr ag y rhagwelwyd ganddynt i ddechrau, oherwydd y gefnogaeth y mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi gallu ei rhoi.
English: Minister, the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales has said that there's still a disconnect between budget allocations and our quite proper aspirations to reach a low-carbon and carbon-neutral Wales. And I notice the committee also said that the draft budget should explain and demonstrate clearly how funding allocations will support the decarbonisation priority. So, can we expect that future budgets will be more transparent and clear in this regard, or do you think that this year's one is best practice?
Welsh: Weinidog, mae Comisiynydd Cenedlaethau'r Dyfodol Cymru wedi dweud bod datgysylltiad o hyd rhwng dyraniadau'r gyllideb a'n dyheadau priodol iawn i ddod yn Gymru garbon isel a charbon niwtral. A sylwaf fod y pwyllgor hefyd wedi dweud y dylai'r gyllideb ddrafft egluro a dangos yn glir sut y bydd dyraniadau cyllid yn cefnogi'r flaenoriaeth ddatgarboneiddio. Felly, a allwn ddisgwyl y bydd cyllidebau'r dyfodol yn fwy tryloyw a chlir yn hyn o beth, neu a ydych yn credu bod cyllideb eleni yn enghraifft o ymarfer gorau?
English: I certainly don't think we've got to the point where we can say we have achieved complete best practice yet, and that's been very clear, because we've set an ambitious budget improvement plan. I see that as a five-year rolling plan in terms of how we can continually strive to improve the way that we set our budget and the way that we can make considerations about where we put Welsh Government - or the Welsh public's - money. In terms of developing that budget improvement plan, we did so with the future generations commissioner, who, I have to say, has commended the Welsh Government on taking a good step towards creating a greener Wales. Obviously, we recognise we have some way to go yet. But that budget improvement plan takes on board the journey checker, which the future generations commissioner developed, and that's all about how you can demonstrate in practice, and how you can ensure, that the Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Act 2015 is right there, front and centre, at the decision-making point, throughout the budget process and its monitoring and assessment.
Welsh: Yn sicr, ni chredaf ein bod wedi cyrraedd y pwynt lle gallwn ddweud ein bod wedi cyflawni ymarfer gorau yn gyfan gwbl eto, ac mae hynny wedi bod yn glir iawn, gan ein bod wedi llunio cynllun uchelgeisiol i wella'r gyllideb. Rwy'n ei weld fel cynllun treigl pum mlynedd, o ran sut y gallwn ymdrechu'n barhaus i wella'r ffordd rydym yn gosod ein cyllideb a'r ffordd y gallwn ystyried ble rydym yn rhoi arian Llywodraeth Cymru - neu arian cyhoedd Cymru. O ran datblygu'r cynllun hwnnw i wella'r gyllideb, gwnaethom hynny gyda chomisiynydd cenedlaethau'r dyfodol, sydd, mae'n rhaid i mi ddweud, wedi canmol Llywodraeth Cymru am gymryd cam da tuag at greu Cymru wyrddach. Yn amlwg, rydym yn cydnabod bod gennym lawer i'w wneud o hyd. Ond mae'r cynllun hwnnw i wella'r gyllideb yn ystyried y gwiriwr siwrnai, a ddatblygwyd gan gomisiynydd cenedlaethau'r dyfodol, ac mae hynny'n ymwneud â sut y gallwch ddangos yn ymarferol, a sut y gallwch sicrhau bod Deddf Llesiant Cenedlaethau'r Dyfodol (Cymru) 2015 wrth wraidd y gwaith o wneud penderfyniadau, drwy gydol proses y gyllideb, a'r gwaith o'i monitro a'i hasesu.
English: Certainly. Only yesterday I was able to announce, as part of the budget 2020-21, that we would be continuing to extend our high street and retail rate relief scheme into 2020-21. So, that's more than £24 million of funding, which supports over 15,000 businesses with their rates. I think that's really important, but, actually, that goes alongside £230 million of other relief for businesses in Wales, meaning that around half of businesses in Wales pay absolutely no rates at all.
Welsh: Yn sicr. Ddoe ddiwethaf, fe gyhoeddais i, fel rhan o gyllideb 2020-21, y byddem yn parhau i ymestyn ein cynllun rhyddhad ardrethi'r stryd fawr ac ardrethi manwerthu i 2020-21. Felly, mae hynny'n fwy na £24 miliwn o gyllid, sy'n cefnogi dros 15,000 o fusnesau gyda'u hardrethi. Credaf fod hynny'n bwysig iawn, ond mewn gwirionedd, mae hynny ochr yn ochr â £213 miliwn o ryddhad arall i fusnesau yng Nghymru, sy'n golygu nad yw oddeutu hanner busnesau Cymru yn talu unrhyw ardrethi o gwbl.
English: Well, of course, we welcome any business rate relief, but the fact of the matter is that, in spite of that relief, which you are extending, we've still got the most punitive business rates regime in the whole of the United Kingdom. And, of course, in addition to having the highest business rates in Great Britain, we also have very high land transaction tax for non-commercial properties, and they will continue to be higher than in either Scotland or England for the foreseeable future. Why is it that you didn't take the opportunity to have a look at reducing those taxes in order to promote investment and to promote business as the wealth creators in Wales in your budget, and will you reconsider that position before bringing the final budget to this Chamber later in the year?
Welsh: Wel, wrth gwrs, rydym yn croesawu unrhyw ryddhad ardrethi busnes, ond y gwir amdani yw, er gwaethaf y rhyddhad hwnnw rydych yn ei ymestyn, ni sydd â'r drefn ardrethi busnes fwyaf cosbol yn y Deyrnas Unedig o hyd. Ac wrth gwrs, yn ogystal â'r ardrethi busnes uchaf ym Mhrydain, mae gennym hefyd dreth trafodiadau tir uchel iawn ar gyfer eiddo anfasnachol, a byddant yn parhau i fod yn uwch na'r Alban a Lloegr hyd y gellir rhagweld. Pam na wnaethoch chi achub ar y cyfle i ystyried lleihau'r trethi hynny er mwyn hyrwyddo buddsoddiad ac i hyrwyddo busnes fel y crewyr cyfoeth yng Nghymru yn eich cyllideb, ac a wnewch chi ailystyried y safbwynt hwnnw cyn cyflwyno'r gyllideb derfynol i'r Siambr yn ddiweddarach yn y flwyddyn?
English: Well, I'd start, of course, by suggesting that Darren Millar is wrong to suggest we have punitive business rates in Wales, because, actually, a larger proportion of businesses in Wales pay no rates at all than do across the border in England. And the place where we set our business rates really does reflect the fact that our average rateable value in Wales is different to in England. So, in England, it is around £50,000, and only £30,000 in Wales, so I think it is only right that our system reflects the different rateable values and the different picture that we have here in Wales. In terms of land transaction tax, obviously we do have a different, higher rate for non-residential taxes. And those are for purchases of over £1 million. When you get to £1.1 million, the land transaction tax does start to become higher than stamp duty land tax. Of course, that rate was agreed by the Assembly when we voted on that. I think it's important to recognise that this is the first year of those particular rates, so we are obviously keeping a close eye on them, but we're also keeping a close eye on what is happening in Ireland and Scotland as well. Because we've all set out on different paths and we have no indication thus far that those rates are putting off businesses from locating in Wales, because, when businesses locate, it's for a multitude of reasons, one of which will be the land transaction tax, but, obviously, other issues such as skills and Government support for business will obviously be factors.
Welsh: Wel, buaswn yn dechrau, wrth gwrs, drwy awgrymu bod Darren Millar yn anghywir i awgrymu bod gennym ardrethi busnes cosbol yng Nghymru, oherwydd mewn gwirionedd, ceir cyfran fwy o fusnesau yng Nghymru nad ydynt yn talu unrhyw ardrethi o gwbl nag a geir dros y ffin yn Lloegr. Ac mae'r man lle rydym yn pennu ein hardrethi busnes yn adlewyrchu'r ffaith bod ein gwerth ardrethol cyfartalog yng Nghymru yn wahanol i'r hyn a geir yn Lloegr. Felly, yn Lloegr, mae oddeutu £50,000, a dim ond £30,000 yng Nghymru, felly credaf ei bod ond yn deg fod ein system yn adlewyrchu'r gwahanol werthoedd ardrethol a'r darlun gwahanol sydd gennym yma yng Nghymru. O ran y dreth trafodiadau tir, yn amlwg, mae gennym gyfradd wahanol, uwch ar gyfer trethi amhreswyl. Ac mae'r rheini ar gyfer pryniannau dros £1 miliwn. Pan gyrhaeddwch £1.1 miliwn, mae'r dreth trafodiadau tir yn dechrau dod yn uwch na threth dir y dreth stamp. Wrth gwrs, cytunwyd ar y gyfradd honno gan y Cynulliad pan wnaethom bleidleisio ar hynny. Credaf ei bod yn bwysig cydnabod mai hon yw blwyddyn gyntaf yr ardrethi penodol hynny, felly rydym yn amlwg yn cadw llygad barcud arnynt, ond rydym hefyd yn cadw llygad barcud ar yr hyn sy'n digwydd yn Iwerddon a'r Alban hefyd. Oherwydd mae pob un ohonom wedi dilyn gwahanol lwybrau ac nid oes gennym unrhyw arwydd hyd yn hyn fod yr ardrethi hynny'n atal busnesau rhag lleoli yng Nghymru, oherwydd pan fydd busnesau'n lleoli, maent yn gwneud hynny am lu o resymau, a bydd y dreth trafodiadau tir yn un ohonynt, ond yn amlwg, bydd materion eraill fel sgiliau a chefnogaeth y Llywodraeth i fusnes yn ffactorau.