English: I'll try and keep it short, Dirprwy Lywydd. I might not succeed. This is a debate in two parts really, isn't it? It's a debate that comes from the committees' responses to the draft budget, and the committees making reasonable points, cross party, that are well made. Pered was the first to speak from his committee, and a very impressive contribution it was. I think that is where this debate should be. I wasn't going to make a speech, actually, until the amendments came in. I think the amendments are the second half of the debate, which is entirely political, entirely point scoring, and entirely pointless. What I wanted to do was to specifically speak, because I think, sometimes, there's an amendment that you want to speak to, because you want to explain to people who may be watching why you are voting against it, and I am going to vote against Plaid Cymru's amendment 2. The reason for this, I think, has already been laid out very well today on the Today programme by the Minister, who made an excellent contribution this morning, but also it's been laid out by politicians in Caerphilly. I'd like to read to you this statement. 'There surely can be no justification in the current climate for increasing the tax burden on hard-pressed residents of Caerphilly.' That comes from Lindsay Whittle, the leader of Plaid Cymru on Caerphilly County Borough Council. And the leader of Plaid Cymru was a little bit grumpy when I tried to intervene earlier, so I'm happy to take an intervention now if he wants to put Lindsay Whittle right. But Lindsay actually said that. Go for it.
Welsh: Fe wna i geisio cadw hyn yn fyr, Dirprwy Lywydd. Efallai na fyddaf i'n llwyddo. Mae hon yn ddadl mewn dwy ran mewn gwirionedd, onid yw? Mae'n ddadl sy'n dod o ymatebion y pwyllgorau i'r gyllideb ddrafft, a'r pwyllgorau sy'n gwneud pwyntiau rhesymol, trawsbleidiol, sydd wedi'u gwneud yn dda. Pered oedd y cyntaf i siarad o'i bwyllgor, a chyfraniad trawiadol iawn oedd hwnnw. Rwy'n credu mai dyna lle ddylai'r ddadl hon fod. Doeddwn i ddim yn mynd i wneud araith, mewn gwirionedd, tan i'r gwelliannau ddod i mewn. Rwy'n credu mai'r gwelliannau yw ail hanner y ddadl, sy'n gwbl wleidyddol, i sgorio pwyntiau, ac yn hollol ddibwrpas. Yr hyn yr oeddwn i eisiau ei wneud oedd siarad yn benodol, oherwydd rwy'n credu, weithiau, mae yna welliant yr ydych chi eisiau sôn amdano, oherwydd rydych chi eisiau egluro i bobl a allai fod yn gwylio pam eich bod chi'n pleidleisio yn ei erbyn, ac rwy'n mynd i bleidleisio yn erbyn gwelliant 2 Plaid Cymru. Mae'r rheswm dros hyn, rwy'n credu, eisoes wedi'i gyflwyno'n dda iawn heddiw ar y rhaglen Today gan y Gweinidog, a wnaeth gyfraniad ardderchog y bore 'ma, ond hefyd mae wedi ei gyflwyno gan wleidyddion yng Nghaerffili. Hoffwn ddarllen y datganiad hwn i chi. 'Siawns na all fod cyfiawnhad yn yr hinsawdd bresennol dros gynyddu'r baich treth ar drigolion Caerffili sydd dan bwysau mawr.' Daw hwn gan Lindsay Whittle, arweinydd Plaid Cymru ar Gyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Caerffili. Ac roedd arweinydd Plaid Cymru ychydig yn flin pan wnes i geisio ymyrryd ynghynt, felly rwy'n hapus i gymryd ymyrraeth nawr os ydy e am gywiro Lindsay Whittle. Ond fe wnaeth Lindsay ddweud hynny. Ewch amdani.