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English: This week is Apprenticeship Week - an opportunity to celebrate apprentices, celebrate employers and celebrate training providers. As a former apprentice myself, I know how important the apprenticeship system is for developing technical expertise and professional competence, and it is a key part to preparing the workforce of the future. As well as developing learners' technical skills, apprenticeships must also equip people with the employability and transferrable skills needed for working life and to manage career transitions in an ever-changing labour market. Good apprenticeships provide balance of on-the-job experience with technical training. Deputy Llywydd, the apprentices of today are the leaders of tomorrow, and we must equip them with those skills. An apprentice, Michael Halliday, who served his time alongside me, is now the head of engineering at a significant employer in my own constituency. Michael oversees a large number of projects and manages a team of experienced engineers; a true success story of the Welsh apprenticeship system. So, Deputy Llywydd, let's celebrate Apprenticeship Week by saying 'Thank you' to all our apprentices, to all the employers, and to all our training providers, like Coleg Cambria, Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol and so many others, who support apprenticeships throughout Wales and ensure that, in Wales, we do have the best apprentices and we do have the best apprenticeship system in the world. Diolch yn fawr.
Welsh: Yr wythnos hon yw Wythnos Prentisiaethau - cyfle i ddathlu prentisiaid, dathlu cyflogwyr a dathlu darparwyr hyfforddiant. Fel cyn brentis fy hun, gwn pa mor bwysig yw'r system brentisiaethau ar gyfer datblygu arbenigedd technegol a chymhwysedd proffesiynol, ac mae'n rhan allweddol o'r gwaith o baratoi gweithlu'r dyfodol. Yn ogystal â datblygu sgiliau technegol dysgwyr, mae'n rhaid i brentisiaethau hefyd arfogi pobl â'r sgiliau cyflogadwyedd a'r sgiliau trosglwyddadwy sydd eu hangen ar gyfer bywyd gwaith ac i lwyddo i bontio rhwng gyrfaoedd mewn marchnad lafur sy'n newid yn barhaus. Mae prentisiaethau da'n darparu cydbwysedd rhwng profiad yn y gwaith a hyfforddiant technegol. Ddirprwy Lywydd, prentisiaid heddiw yw arweinwyr yfory, ac mae'n rhaid i ni eu harfogi â'r sgiliau hynny. Mae prentis, Michael Halliday, a fu'n bwrw ei brentisiaeth gyda mi, bellach yn bennaeth peirianneg i gyflogwr pwysig yn fy etholaeth. Mae Michael yn goruchwylio nifer fawr o brosiectau ac yn rheoli tîm o beirianwyr profiadol; enghraifft wych o lwyddiant system brentisiaethau Cymru. Felly, Ddirprwy Lywydd, gadewch i ni ddathlu Wythnos Prentisiaethau drwy ddweud 'Diolch' wrth ein holl brentisiaid, diolch i'r holl gyflogwyr, ac i'n holl ddarparwyr hyfforddiant, fel Coleg Cambria, y Coleg Cymraeg Cenedlaethol a chymaint o rai eraill sy'n cefnogi prentisiaethau ledled Cymru ac yn sicrhau bod gennym ni, yng Nghymru, y prentisiaid gorau a bod gennym y system brentisiaethau orau yn y byd. Diolch yn fawr.
English: Item 6 on the agenda this afternoon is the debate on a Member's legislative proposal: electric vehicle charge points. I call on David Melding to move the motion.
Welsh: Eitem 6 ar yr agenda y prynhawn yma yw'r ddadl ar gynnig deddfwriaethol gan Aelod: pwyntiau gwefru cerbydau trydan. Galwaf ar David Melding i gyflwyno'r cynnig.
English: - are fired up by renewable energy. [ Interruption. ] I will take an intervention, yes.
Welsh: - yn cael eu pweru gan ynni adnewyddadwy. [ Torri ar draws. ] Gwnaf, fe dderbyniaf ymyriad.
English: Yes, but you are out of time, you realise, don't you?
Welsh: Ie, ond a ydych chi'n sylweddoli bod eich amser wedi dod i ben?
English: Okay. All right. Well, I'll have to not take the intervention.
Welsh: O'r gorau. Iawn. Wel, bydd yn rhaid i mi beidio â derbyn yr ymyriad.
English: Just in a second. In years to come, no doubt when people insist on having charging points in their homes, builders will put them in. But what Government can do is insist that that happens through legislation now, in order to drive that culture change, which will lead us to that point in the not-too-distant future.
Welsh: Mewn eiliad. Yn y blynyddoedd sydd i ddod, pan fydd pobl yn mynnu cael pwyntiau gwefru yn eu cartrefi, mae'n siŵr y bydd adeiladwyr yn eu rhoi i mewn. Ond gall y Llywodraeth fynnu bod hynny'n digwydd drwy ddeddfwriaeth yn awr, er mwyn sbarduno'r newid diwylliant a fydd yn ein harwain at y pwynt hwnnw yn y dyfodol gweddol agos.
English: Do you agree that these new electric charging points need to be generated by renewable energy? Otherwise we're simply not actually moving the dial on our carbon emissions.
Welsh: A ydych chi'n cytuno bod angen i'r pwyntiau gwefru trydan newydd hyn gael eu cynhyrchu gan ynni adnewyddadwy? Fel arall, nid ydym yn ennill tir o ran ein hallyriadau carbon.
English: To keep my answer short, electric vehicles are still more efficient than internal-combustion-engine-driven cars even if they're fuelled by electricity generated by fossil fuels, because they're more efficient. But you're absolutely right, of course: that's where we need to get to, that we're using clean electricity to drive the car. So it's a central point. There's much that we need to do in Wales. I published this report along with my team member, Jamie Thomas, last year, looking at lessons from Scotland, and there's so much that we can learn from what they did in Scotland. They took this seriously years ago. They put measures in place through central Scottish Government, and through local councils such as Dundee, in order to drive that culture change, and there are so many questions for Welsh Government to look at. What incentives can people be given to make the switch? Who can they work in partnership with to make ULEVs more attractive to people? How will the benefits of ULEVs be communicated to people? How can Wales innovate and normalise in the ULEV field? How can we control things centrally, as they've done in Scotland, in having a central, publicly owned hub to which data from private companies are fed in so that they know how people in Scotland are behaving in relation to electric vehicles? So, this is another important piece of legislation being proposed by David Melding. I hope the Government really run with this.
Welsh: Er mwyn cadw fy ateb yn fyr, mae cerbydau trydan yn dal i fod yn fwy effeithlon na cheir a yrrir gan beiriant tanio mewnol, hyd yn oed os ydynt yn cael eu tanio gan drydan a gynhyrchir gan danwydd ffosil, am eu bod yn fwy effeithlon. Ond rydych yn llygad eich lle, wrth gwrs: dyna lle mae angen inni gyrraedd, ein bod yn defnyddio trydan glân i yrru'r car. Felly mae'n bwynt canolog. Mae llawer angen ei wneud yng Nghymru. Cyhoeddais yr adroddiad hwn gydag aelod o fy nhîm, Jamie Thomas, y llynedd, i edrych ar wersi o'r Alban, ac mae cymaint y gallwn ei ddysgu o'r hyn a wnaethant yn yr Alban. Roeddent o ddifrif ynglŷn â hyn flynyddoedd yn ôl. Rhoesant fesurau ar waith trwy Lywodraeth ganolog yr Alban a chynghorau lleol fel Dundee er mwyn gyrru'r newid diwylliant hwnnw, ac mae cymaint o gwestiynau i Lywodraeth Cymru edrych arnynt. Pa gymhellion y gellir eu rhoi i bobl newid? Gyda phwy y gallant weithio mewn partneriaeth i wneud cerbydau ULEV yn fwy deniadol i bobl? Sut y gellir cyfleu manteision cerbydau ULEV i bobl? Sut y gall Cymru arloesi a normaleiddio ym maes ULEV? Sut y gallwn reoli pethau'n ganolog, fel y gwnaethant yn yr Alban, drwy gael canolbwynt canolog, dan berchnogaeth gyhoeddus y caiff data gan gwmnïau preifat ei fwydo iddo fel eu bod yn gwybod sut y mae pobl yn yr Alban yn ymddwyn mewn perthynas â cherbydau trydan? Felly, dyma ddeddfwriaeth bwysig iawn arall yn cael ei chynnig gan David Melding. Rwy'n gobeithio y bydd y Llywodraeth yn bwrw iddi go iawn ar hyn.
English: Can I now call on the Minister for Housing and Local Government, Julie James?
Welsh: A gaf fi alw yn awr ar y Gweinidog Tai a Llywodraeth Leol, Julie James?
English: Just to give you some context there, Minister, if I drive an electric vehicle up from Pembrokeshire to Cardiff Bay and then back again, I have to stop at the services on the M4 in order to re-zap myself to continue on my journey home. That charge itself takes half an hour, so it just lengthens the whole process.
Welsh: I roi rhywfaint o gyd-destun i chi, Weinidog, os byddaf yn gyrru cerbyd trydan o sir Benfro i Fae Caerdydd ac yn ôl eto, rhaid i mi stopio yn y gwasanaethau ar yr M4 er mwyn ailwefru i barhau fy nhaith adre. Mae ailwefru'n cymryd hanner awr, felly mae'n gwneud yr holl broses yn hwy.
English: Thanks for giving way. It's been a really productive debate so far. I agree with Members who've said that we need to, as the Minister has said, really ramp up the charging point infrastructure - that's clearly important. As to the future, in Europe there have been some prototype towns where they're looking at Wi-Fi charging, which might be one way of continually charging vehicles along roads in the future. I know that's some way off in Wales, and what you're doing in prioritising the current structure is right, but are you paying any attention to future innovations that might mean that some of these issues in the future resolve themselves?
Welsh: Diolch am ildio. Mae wedi bod yn ddadl gynhyrchiol iawn hyd yn hyn. Rwy'n cytuno â'r Aelodau sydd wedi dweud bod angen i ni, fel y dywedodd y Gweinidog, wella'r seilwaith pwyntiau gwefru'n helaeth - mae'n amlwg fod hynny'n bwysig. O ran y dyfodol, yn Ewrop gwelwyd trefi prototeip lle maent yn edrych ar wefru Wi-Fi, a allai fod yn un ffordd o wefru cerbydau'n barhaus ar hyd y ffyrdd yn y dyfodol. Rwy'n gwybod bod hynny'n bell i ffwrdd yng Nghymru, ac mae'r hyn a wnewch drwy flaenoriaethu'r strwythurau presennol yn iawn, ond a ydych chi'n rhoi unrhyw sylw i ddatblygiadau arloesol yn y dyfodol a allai olygu y bydd rhai o'r problemau hyn yn datrys eu hunain yn y dyfodol?
English: Can I now ask David Melding to reply to the debate?
Welsh: A gaf fi ofyn yn awr i David Melding ymateb i'r ddadl?
English: Thank you, and the proposal is to note the proposal. Does any Member object?
Welsh: Diolch, a'r cwestiwn yw a ddylem nodi'r cynnig. A oes unrhyw Aelod yn gwrthwynebu?
English: I'm afraid I am objecting; we need to abstain.
Welsh: Mae arnaf ofn fy mod yn gwrthwynebu; mae angen inni ymatal.
English: Okay. So, we defer voting under this item, then, until voting time.
Welsh: O'r gorau. Felly, gohiriwn y pleidleisio o dan yr eitem hon tan y cyfnod pleidleisio.
English: Item 7 has had no motion tabled.
Welsh: Ni chyflwynwyd cynnig ar gyfer eitem 7.
English: So, we move to item 8, which is the Plaid Cymru debate on air pollution. I call on Rhun ap Iorwerth to move the motion.
Welsh: Felly, symudwn at eitem 8, sef dadl Plaid Cymru ar lygredd aer. Galwaf ar Rhun ap Iorwerth i gyflwyno'r cynnig.
English: Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I'm very pleased to be able to open this debate on a very important issue in terms of public health, and very important in terms of the environment as well, namely air pollution. The evidence is very clear. I think that this is a significant problem. Air pollution will kill 2,000 people every year in Wales - think about that.
Welsh: Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. Dwi'n falch iawn o allu agor y ddadl yma am fater pwysig iawn, iawn o ran iechyd y cyhoedd a phwysig iawn o ran yr amgylchedd hefyd, sef llygredd awyr. Mae'r dystiolaeth yn glir iawn. Dwi'n credu bod hon yn broblem sylweddol tu hwnt. Mi fydd llygredd awyr yn lladd 2,000 o bobl y flwyddyn yng Nghymru - meddyliwch am hynny.
English: Thank you. I have selected the five amendments to the motion. Can I call on the Minister for the Environment, Energy and Rural Affairs to move amendments 1 and 3, formally tabled in the name of Rebecca Evans?
Welsh: Diolch. Rwyf wedi dethol y pum gwelliant i'r cynnig. A gaf fi alw ar Weinidog yr Amgylchedd, Ynni a Materion Gwledig i gynnig gwelliannau 1 a 3, a gyflwynwyd yn ffurfiol yn enw Rebecca Evans?
English: Thank you. I call on Andrew R.T. Davies to move amendments 2, 4 and 5, tabled in the name of Darren Millar.
Welsh: Diolch. Galwaf ar Andrew R.T. Davies i gynnig gwelliannau 2, 4 a 5, a gyflwynwyd yn enw Darren Millar.
English: Will the Member take an intervention? I'm grateful, Jenny, for you taking the intervention. You highlighted exclusion zones around schools. We focus on the combustion engine, but you and I have heard evidence on the Climate Change, Environment and Rural Affairs Committee about particulate matter from tyres and other substances, brake pads as well, that account for 40 per cent of the particles we inhale. So, it's not just focusing on the combustion engine, which can be overcome by electric cars; it's looking at the whole mobile movement of people around, as you're identifying today.
Welsh: A wnaiff yr Aelod dderbyn ymyriad? Rwy'n ddiolchgar i chi, Jenny, am gymryd yr ymyriad. Fe dynnoch chi sylw at barthau gwahardd ceir o amgylch ysgolion. Rydym yn canolbwyntio ar yr injan tanio mewnol, ond rydych chi a minnau wedi clywed tystiolaeth yn y Pwyllgor Newid Hinsawdd, Amgylchedd a Materion Gwledig ynghylch deunydd gronynnol o deiars a sylweddau eraill, padiau brêc hefyd, sy'n 40 y cant o'r gronynnau a anadlwn. Felly, nid yw'n fater o ganolbwyntio'n unig ar yr injan tanio mewnol, y gellir ei oresgyn gan geir trydan; mae'n fater o edrych ar holl symud pobl o le i le, fel rydych chi'n ei nodi heddiw.
English: I absolutely agree with that, and that is one of the reservations I have about the electric vehicle charging focus, because electric vehicles are still going to have brakes and tyres, and they're still going to be emitting particulate matter.
Welsh: Rwy'n cytuno'n llwyr â hynny, a dyna un o'r amheuon sydd gennyf ynglŷn â'r ffocws ar wefru cerbydau trydan, oherwydd mae cerbydau trydan yn dal i fod â breciau a theiars, ac maent yn mynd i ddal i allyrru mater gronynnol.
English: Will you take a brief intervention? I'd make a point that electric vehicles that use the power from the moving vehicle to charge the battery - and in so doing it slows the car down electrically, if you like - are much better than current vehicles in terms of the emissions from brake pads that we currently see.
Welsh: A wnewch chi dderbyn ymyriad byr? Buaswn i'n gwneud y pwynt fod cerbydau trydan sy'n defnyddio'r pŵer o'r cerbyd sy'n symud i wefru'r batri - ac wrth wneud hynny, yn arafu'r car yn drydanol, os mynnwch - yn llawer gwell na cherbydau presennol o ran yr allyriadau o badiau brêc a welwn ar hyn o bryd.
English: I wouldn't disagree with that, but I still think that you have to take account of the fact that electric vehicles are not carbon neutral. They're part of the solution more than part of the problem. But I really think that we absolutely have to keep on debating this issue in order to make it higher up on the agenda, because it simply isn't registering at the moment sufficiently in people's conscience that we absolutely have to change the way we are doing things. So, we certainly need to pay much greater attention to this matter, because if we had as many people dying on the roads as we do having their lives shortened by air pollution, we'd have a lot more people demanding change.
Welsh: Ni fuaswn yn anghytuno â hynny, ond rwy'n dal i feddwl bod yn rhaid i chi ystyried y ffaith nad yw cerbydau trydan yn niwtral o ran carbon. Maent yn rhan o'r ateb yn fwy na rhan o'r broblem. Ond rwy'n credu o ddifrif fod yn rhaid inni barhau i drafod y mater hwn er mwyn sicrhau ei fod yn uwch ar yr agenda, oherwydd nid yw'n gadael ei farc yn ddigonol ar hyn o bryd yn ymwybyddiaeth pobl fod yn rhaid inni newid y ffordd y byddwn yn gwneud pethau. Felly, yn sicr mae angen inni roi llawer mwy o sylw i'r mater hwn, oherwydd pe bai gennym gynifer o bobl yn marw ar y ffyrdd ag sydd o fywydau'n cael eu byrhau gan lygredd aer, byddai gennym lawer mwy o bobl yn mynnu newid.
English: In preparation for this debate, I read the 'Clean Air Plan for Wales' consultation document, and I also had a meeting with Public Health Wales to talk through some of the issues that are in the motion. And having done that, framing Public Health Wales as independent experts, I don't share the pessimism of Plaid Cymru, but I do welcome some of the words that are in the motion. So, I support the thrust of the motion but I don't feel as pessimistic, and I reflect on Jenny Rathbone's optimism, actually, that the Welsh Government will engage and have a clean air Act before the end of this Assembly term. I think that's likely to happen.
Welsh: Wrth baratoi ar gyfer y ddadl hon, darllenais y ddogfen ymgynghori 'Cynllun Aer Glân i Gymru', a chefais gyfarfod hefyd ag Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru i drafod rhai o'r pethau sydd yn y cynnig. Ac wedi gwneud hynny, gan ystyried Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru yn arbenigwyr annibynnol, nid wyf yn rhannu pesimistiaeth Plaid Cymru, ond rwy'n croesawu rhai o'r geiriau sydd yn y cynnig. Felly, rwy'n cefnogi byrdwn y cynnig ond nid wyf yn teimlo mor besimistaidd, ac rwy'n meddwl am optimistiaeth Jenny Rathbone y bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn ymroi i hyn ac y bydd ganddi Ddeddf aer glân cyn diwedd y tymor Cynulliad hwn. Rwy'n credu bod hynny'n debygol o ddigwydd.
English: That isn't - . As I said in my contribution, that wasn't the figure that Public Health Wales gave me. They said the 1,000 to 1,400 aggregated range was based on life expectancy. So, the 2,000 deaths isn't currently - it's not a set-in-stone figure; the public health advice is the one that I've proposed.
Welsh: Nid yw hynny'n - . Fel y dywedais yn fy nghyfraniad, nid hwnnw oedd y ffigur a roddodd Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru i mi. Dywedasant fod y 1,000 i 1,400 o ystod gyfanredol yn seiliedig ar ddisgwyliad oes. Felly, nid yw'r 2,000 o farwolaethau ar hyn o bryd - nid yw'n ffigur pendant; y cyngor iechyd cyhoeddus yw'r un a nodais i.
English: I'm sorry to interrupt, but one of the things - he makes the point about idling vehicles - one of the points that I've heard as well, from public health officials, is it isn't just idling vehicles; the actual act of turning off your vehicle while outside a school could be just as polluting when you turn it back on again. So, you might as well leave it idling as turning it off and on in many cases; it depends how long you leave it idling for. So, actually, the more effective thing is, as Jenny Rathbone said, not to have those cars near the school in the first place.
Welsh: Mae'n ddrwg gennyf dorri ar draws, ond un o'r pethau - mae'n gwneud y pwynt am gerbydau'n segura - un o'r pwyntiau a glywais hefyd gan swyddogion iechyd cyhoeddus yw nad cerbydau'n segura yn unig yw'r broblem; gallai'r weithred o ddiffodd eich cerbyd tra'n aros y tu allan i ysgol fod yr un mor llygrol pan fyddwch yn ei ailgychwyn eto. Felly, mewn llawer o achosion, waeth i chi ei adael i segura fwy na'i ddiffodd a'i ailgychwyn; mae'n dibynnu am ba hyd rydych chi'n ei adael i segura. Felly, mewn gwirionedd, y peth mwy effeithiol i'w wneud, fel y dywedodd Jenny Rathbone, yw peidio â gadael ceir yn agos at yr ysgol yn y lle cyntaf.
English: I just wondered if you've thought of having any conversation with the UK Government about removing VAT from electric vehicles, because that's not something that we have the powers to do, and that would enable them to be promoted by making them cheaper.
Welsh: Tybed a ydych wedi meddwl am gael sgwrs gyda Llywodraeth y DU ynglŷn â chael gwared ar y TAW ar gerbydau trydan, oherwydd nid yw hynny'n rhywbeth y mae gennym bwerau i'w wneud, a byddai'n ei gwneud hi'n bosibl eu hyrwyddo drwy eu gwneud yn rhatach.
English: Thanks for giving way, Rhun. I quite agree with you and other Members that a clean air Act is certainly a positive way to go, but would you agree with me that we've had Acts such as the active travel Act before, and, of course, the future generations Act, all of which are well meaning and have a good basis for the future, but, if you don't actually have those practical measures on the ground and those proper monitoring devices and mechanisms in place to feed back when things aren't working, then, actually, progress is terribly slow and you have to revisit these Acts over and over again? So, would you agree that we need some teeth to this on the ground?
Welsh: Diolch am ildio, Rhun. Cytunaf yn llwyr â chi ac Aelodau eraill fod Deddf aer glân yn sicr yn ffordd gadarnhaol o'i wneud, ond a fyddech yn cytuno â mi ein bod wedi cael Deddfau fel y Ddeddf teithio llesol o'r blaen, ac wrth gwrs, Deddf cenedlaethau'r dyfodol, sydd oll yn rhai da eu bwriad ac sy'n cynnig sylfaen dda ar gyfer y dyfodol, ond os nad oes gennych fesurau ymarferol ar lawr gwlad a dyfeisiau a dulliau monitro priodol ar waith i roi adborth pan na fydd pethau'n gweithio, mae'r cynnydd yn araf ofnadwy a rhaid ichi ailedrych ar y Deddfau hyn drosodd a throsodd? Felly, a fyddech yn cytuno bod angen dannedd arnom i wneud hyn ar lawr gwlad?
English: I agree with you, and there are other legislative tools that we have that can help take us to where we want to go, and the well-being of future generations Act is one of those. What we would have through this clean air Act is a real focus on a particular job that we need to do in cleaning up the air that we breathe, and it has to be legislation that certainly would have teeth and would demand action on the ground.
Welsh: Rwy'n cytuno â chi, ac mae arfau deddfwriaethol eraill gennym a all helpu i fynd â ni i'r fan lle rydym am fynd, ac mae Deddf llesiant cenedlaethau'r dyfodol yn un o'r rheini. Yr hyn a fyddai gennym drwy'r Ddeddf aer glân hon yw ffocws go iawn ar waith penodol sy'n rhaid inni ei wneud er mwyn glanhau'r aer a anadlwn, ac mae'n rhaid iddi fod yn ddeddfwriaeth a fyddai'n bendant â dannedd ac a fyddai'n galw am weithredu ar lawr gwlad.
English: Dai Lloyd mentioned in more detail the impact that pollution has on our bodies, and why this is such an urgent issue. Delyth Jewell was right to think of breathing clean air as a basic human right, and Caroline Jones was right to say that this is one of the biggest challenges that face us in terms of public health. I listened very carefully to the comments made by Hefin David. We are not being pessimistic, I don't think, but ready to realise the severity of the situation as it stands today. That's what I heard from the debate here in the Chamber. In terms of the figure, and the dispute about the figures of 2,000 early deaths per year, and then between 1,000 and 1,400, I think, which is the figure that you mentioned, I will quote from a paper that was presented to the Cabinet of the Welsh Government in January 2018. So, here are the most recent figures that the Welsh Government have been using:
Welsh: Mi wnaeth Dai Lloyd sôn yn fwy manwl am yr effaith mae llygredd yn ei gael ar ein cyrff ni, a pham bod hwn yn fater o gymaint o frys. Roedd Delyth Jewell yn iawn i feddwl am anadlu awyr lân fel hawl dynol sylfaenol. Roedd Caroline Jones yn iawn i ddweud mai dyma un o'r heriau mwyaf sydd yn ein hwynebu ni o ran iechyd y cyhoedd. Mi wrandawais i yn ofalus iawn ar sylwadau Hefin David. Nid bod yn besimistaidd ydym ni, dwi'n credu, ond bod yn barod i sylweddoli difrifoldeb y sefyllfa fel y mae heddiw. Dyna beth roeddwn i'n ei glywed gan y rhelyw yma yn y Siambr heddiw yma. O ran y ffigur hwnnw - yr anghydfod bach rhwng y ffigur o 2,000 o farwolaethau cynnar y flwyddyn, a rhywle rhwng 1,000 a 1,400, dwi'n meddwl, roeddech chi'n ei grybwyll, mi wnaf i ddyfynnu o bapur gafodd ei gyflwyno i Gabinet Llywodraeth Cymru ym mis Ionawr 2018. Felly, dyma'r ffigurau lled ddiweddar mae Llywodraeth Cymru wedi bod yn gweithio ohonyn nhw:
English: 'Public Health Wales estimates that the equivalent of around 1,600 deaths are attributable to fine particulate matterexposure and around 1,100 deaths to nitrogen dioxideexposure each year in Wales.' So, actually, the Government figures that we are given from that paper given to Cabinet are actually higher than quoted originally by us and by yourself.
Welsh: 'Mae Iechyd Cyhoeddus Cymru yn amcangyfrif y gellir priodoli tua 1,600 o farwolaethau i gysylltiad â mân ddeunydd gronynnola thua 1,100 o farwolaethau i gysylltiad â nitrogen deuocsidbob blwyddyn yng Nghymru.' Felly, mewn gwirionedd, mae ffigurau'r Llywodraeth a roddir inni o'r papur a roddwyd i'r Cabinet yn uwch na'r hyn a ddyfynnwyd yn wreiddiol gennym ni a gennych chi.