English: What I do have a note of - [ Interruption.] - what I do have a note of is the result, and two thirds of people in Wales rejected wholeheartedly abandoning the first-past-the-post system. Two thirds of the people who voted rejected that idea, and that is why they must have the opportunity to vote and say whether they want to reject first-past-the-post here in the Senedd. Because the ability for people to vote for a person, not just a party, is very, very important, and that's why these closed list systems, frankly, are inappropriate. There are other ways - there are other ways - assuming that you want to introduce a list-based system, and we explored these in the committee. We explored these in the committee. If you want to introduce a list-based system, then why not introduce a flexible list-based system? There's a slight reference to it in the report. There's no explanation as to why that system was abandoned. I'll tell you why it was abandoned, because that was not the deal that was struck between the two individuals that seemed to be instructing their party members on the way that these things are going to work out. It's not a good system for democracy; flexible lists allow people to vote for either a party or a person. They are much, much better. We also have concerns about the recommendation in this report for gender quotas, and I have concerns for two reasons: (1) it could scupper your Bill completely, because it could well be - . In fact, we were told - the legal advice to us was that it would be outside the competence of the Senedd to be able to legislate for gender quotas. That's one reason why that shouldn't go forward in any package of reforms, because equal opportunities are an entirely reserved matter to the UK Parliament. The second reason that we do not support or advocate gender quotas is because they promote one aspect of diversity over another. It doesn't address issues of diversity - [ Interruption.] It doesn't address issues - . I'm happy to take an intervention. Would you like to make an intervention? [ Interruption.] Would you like to make an intervention? Yes.
Welsh: Ond mae gennyf nodyn o - [ Torri ar draws.] - mae gennyf nodyn o'r canlyniad, a gwrthododd dwy ran o dair o bobl Cymru gael gwared ar y system cyntaf i'r felin. Gwrthododd dwy ran o dair o'r bobl a bleidleisiodd y syniad hwnnw, a dyna pam y mae'n rhaid iddynt gael cyfle i bleidleisio a dweud a ydynt am wrthod y system cyntaf i'r felin yma yn y Senedd. Oherwydd mae'r gallu i bobl bleidleisio dros unigolyn, nid plaid yn unig, yn bwysig iawn, a dyna pam fod y systemau rhestrau caeedig hyn yn amhriodol a dweud y gwir. Mae yna ffyrdd eraill - mae yna ffyrdd eraill - gan ragdybio eich bod am gyflwyno system sy'n seiliedig ar restr, a buom yn archwilio'r rhain yn y pwyllgor. Buom yn archwilio'r rhain yn y pwyllgor. Os ydych am gyflwyno system sy'n seiliedig ar restr, beth am gyflwyno system hyblyg sy'n seiliedig ar restr? Mae cyfeiriad bychan ato yn yr adroddiad. Nid oes esboniad pam y diystyrwyd y system honno. Fe ddywedaf wrthych pam y'i diystyrwyd, am nad dyna'r fargen a gafodd ei tharo rhwng y ddau unigolyn a oedd i'w gweld yn cyfarwyddo aelodau eu pleidiau ar y ffordd y bydd y pethau hyn yn gweithio. Nid yw'n system dda ar gyfer democratiaeth; mae rhestrau hyblyg yn caniatáu i bobl bleidleisio dros blaid neu unigolyn. Maent yn llawer gwell. Mae gennym bryderon hefyd ynglŷn â'r argymhelliad yn yr adroddiad hwn ar gyfer cwotâu rhywedd, ac mae gennyf bryderon am ddau reswm: (1) gallai ddifetha eich Bil yn llwyr, oherwydd gallai fod - . Yn wir, dywedwyd wrthym - y cyngor cyfreithiol i ni oedd y byddai gallu deddfu ar gyfer cwotâu rhywedd y tu hwnt i gymhwysedd y Senedd. Dyna un rheswm pam na ddylai hynny fod yn rhan o unrhyw becyn o ddiwygiadau, oherwydd mae cyfle cyfartal yn fater a gadwyd yn ôl yn llwyr i Senedd y DU. Yr ail reswm pam nad ydym yn cefnogi nac yn hybu cwotâu rhywedd yw eu bod yn hyrwyddo un agwedd ar amrywiaeth dros un arall. Nid yw'n mynd i'r afael â materion amrywiaeth - [ Torri ar draws.] Nid yw'n mynd i'r afael â materion - . Rwy'n hapus i dderbyn ymyriad. A hoffech chi wneud ymyriad? [ Torri ar draws.] A hoffech chi wneud ymyriad? Iawn.