English: I start my contribution this afternoon by thanking the Minister for laying the second supplementary legislative consent memorandum and for tabling the motion we're debating today. As the Minister knows, and the Chair of the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee has indicated, this actually comes from correspondence from the External Affairs and Additional Legislation Committee, and I'm glad we're able to debate and consider the question of consent for provisions that were inserted into the Trade Bill by an amendment at a late stage in the Westminster scrutiny process. I will try and avoid duplicating anything that my colleague the Chair of the Constitutional and Legislative Affairs Committee has said, because we have very similar views in our committee to his committee. But I want to remind Members that this is the second time during the Brexit process where we've had new provisions inserted into a Westminster Bill at the eleventh hour that require the consent of this Assembly. We regret that we were unable to consider our consent in relation to the first such instance, which was during the end of the European Union (Withdrawal) Bill's passage through Parliament, but I'm pleased we're able to do so today and that we have an opportunity to actually debate the Trade Bill amendments. I do accept the Minister's position where we have given consent to the previous aspects and we should therefore technically be looking at the amendments inserted by the Lords in that Bill. But the practicalities of considering issues of legislative consent that arise at the end of a Westminster Bill scrutiny process does require further consideration. It strikes me that this is a weakness in the current arrangements, particularly, as the Minister has inferred, when we're in a situation of ping-pong, where it's going back and fore like a yo-yo. We don't know where we will end up, but we do need to look at where is the process of scrutiny for this Assembly if additional amendments are made and approved after we have given consent to an LCM. The whole process of Brexit has actually shown us the weaknesses in the current scrutiny process. Now, the External Affairs and Additional Legislation Committee considered the second supplementary legislative consent memorandum yesterday, and whilst this afternoon we've heard from the Minister the details of that amendment made in the Lords, with the timescales allowed to us, clearly we have not been able to provide a report on our consideration, but we are content to say that no further substantive points of scrutiny have arisen for us based upon the amendment we considered. I'd like to close by thanking the Minister again for laying the memorandum. It is important that this institution does have an opportunity to debate supplementary amendments to LCMs that we have already given consent to. Because otherwise, we are not having an opportunity to comment upon something that will impact upon devolved competencies. The action is as important in terms of the principle of upholding that consent convention as it is in terms of the details of the amendments that gave rise to this debate. So, please, whenever we can, continue laying supplementary LCMs, but perhaps, as an Assembly, we also need to make representations to Westminster to look at the process, so that we have that opportunity even more.
Welsh: Dechreuaf fy nghyfraniad y prynhawn yma drwy ddiolch i'r Gweinidog am osod yr ail femorandwm cydsyniad deddfwriaethol atodol ac am gyflwyno'r cynnig yr ydym ni'n ei drafod heddiw. Fel y gŵyr y Gweinidog, ac fel mae Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol wedi ei nodi, mae hyn mewn gwirionedd yn deillio o ohebiaeth gan y Pwyllgor Materion Allanol a Deddfwriaeth Ychwanegol, ac rwy'n falch ein bod ni'n gallu trafod ac ystyried y cwestiwn ynghylch cydsyniad ar gyfer darpariaethau a ychwanegwyd i'r Bil Masnach gan welliant yn hwyr yn y dydd ym mhroses graffu San Steffan. Ceisiaf osgoi ailadrodd unrhyw beth y mae fy nghyd-Aelod Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor Materion Cyfansoddiadol a Deddfwriaethol wedi'i ddweud, oherwydd mae gennym ni farn debyg iawn yn ein pwyllgor ni i'w bwyllgor ef. Ond rwyf eisiau atgoffa'r Aelodau mai dyma'r ail dro yn ystod y broses Brexit pan fo darpariaethau newydd wedi'u hychwanegu mewn Mesur yn San Steffan ar yr unfed awr ar ddeg sydd angen cydsyniad y Cynulliad hwn. Rydym ni'n gresynwn nad oeddem ni'n gallu ystyried rhoi ein cydsyniad ynglŷn â'r enghraifft gyntaf o'r fath, a oedd ar ddiwedd taith Mesur yr Undeb Ewropeaidd (Ymadael) drwy'r Senedd, ond rwy'n falch ein bod ni'n gallu gwneud hynny heddiw a bod gennym ni gyfle gwirioneddol i drafod y gwelliannau i'r Bil masnach. Rwyf yn derbyn safbwynt y Gweinidog ein bod ni wedi rhoi cydsyniad i'r agweddau blaenorol ac felly y dylem ni yn dechnegol fod yn edrych ar y gwelliannau a ychwanegwyd gan Dŷ'r Arglwyddi yn y Mesur hwnnw. Ond mae'n rhaid rhoi sylw manylach i ba mor ymarferol yw ystyried materion sy'n ymwneud â chydsyniad deddfwriaethol sy'n codi ar ddiwedd proses graffu Bil San Steffan. Mae'n fy nharo i fod hyn yn wendid yn y trefniadau presennol, yn enwedig, fel y mae'r Gweinidog wedi casglu, pan fyddwn ni mewn sefyllfa lle mae pethau'n mynd hwnt ac yma, lle mae pethau'n mynd yn ôl ac ymlaen fel io-io. Ni wyddom ni beth fydd terfyn pethau, ond mae angen i ni edrych ym mha le y mae'r broses graffu ar gyfer y Cynulliad hwn os caiff gwelliannau ychwanegol eu gwneud a'u cymeradwyo ar ôl i ni gydsynio â memorandwm cydsyniad deddfwriaethol. Mae holl broses Brexit mewn gwirionedd wedi dangos i ni y gwendidau yn y broses graffu bresennol. Nawr, ystyriodd y Pwyllgor Materion Allanol a Deddfwriaeth Ychwanegol yr ail femorandwm cydsyniad deddfwriaethol atodol ddoe, ac er inni glywed y prynhawn yma gan y Gweinidog am fanylion y gwelliant hwnnw a wnaethpwyd yn Nhŷ'r Arglwyddi, gyda'r amserlenni a ganiateir i ni, yn amlwg nid ydym ni wedi gallu darparu adroddiad ar ein hystyriaeth, ond rydym ni'n fodlon dweud nad oes unrhyw bwyntiau craffu sylweddol pellach inni graffu arnyn nhw yn seiliedig ar y gwelliant a ystyriwyd gennym ni. Fe hoffwn i gloi drwy ddiolch i'r Gweinidog unwaith eto am osod y memorandwm. Mae'n bwysig bod y sefydliad hwn yn cael cyfle i drafod gwelliannau atodol i femoranda cydsyniad deddfwriaethol yr ydym ni eisoes wedi rhoi cydsyniad iddyn nhw. Oherwydd fel arall, nid ydym ni'n cael cyfle i wneud sylwadau ar rywbeth a fydd yn effeithio ar gymwyseddau datganoledig. Mae'r camau gweithredu yr un mor bwysig o ran yr egwyddor o gynnal y confensiwn cydsyniad hwnnw ag ydyw o ran manylion y gwelliannau a arweiniodd at y ddadl hon. Felly, os gwelwch yn dda, pa bryd bynnag y gallwn ni, gadewch inni barhau i osod memoranda atodol, ond efallai, fel Cynulliad, bod angen inni gyflwyno sylwadau i San Steffan i edrych ar y broses, er mwyn inni gael y cyfle hwnnw hyd yn oed yn fwy.