English: We've just had two very interesting speeches from Mark Reckless and Mike Hedges, all of which I agree with. I often think, if Mike Hedges were the leader of a political party, I might be tempted to join it, because I often agree with a lot of what he says in the Chamber. I hope that doesn't do fatal damage to your career. But I think he made some very positive, practical points. It's too easy to talk about how Wales is at the bottom of the league of so many of the economic tables and how it's gone backwards in the last 20 years, and how there is an enormous disparity of income between, for example, west Wales and Cardiff and we need to plug the gap. But the reality is that what Wales needs to do is to raise the level of wealth creation in the economy and therefore to raise income levels more generally. [ Interruption. ] Sorry, I didn't - . I'm sorry. So, this is something that has spectacularly failed to happen over the last 20 years. Now, I'm not going to heap all the blame on the Welsh Labour Government because, obviously, it doesn't have all the levers of economic power in its armoury. Unlike the Irish Republic, for example, it can't reduce corporation tax, or change the structure of the tax to favour certain growth industries of the future. And I've actually, over the years, become more positive towards devolution than I was 20 years ago, not just because I've got elected to this place, but because, if devolution were used in an imaginative way, and even extended in certain respects, then I can see that we could change the overall economic background in terms of taxation and regulation to give ourselves a relative advantage - [ Interruption.] - compared with our neighbours. Yes, sure.
Welsh: Rydym newydd gael dwy araith ddiddorol iawn gan Mark Reckless a Mike Hedges, ac rwy'n cytuno â'r cyfan. Pe bai Mike Hedges yn arweinydd plaid wleidyddol, rwy'n aml yn meddwl y gallwn gael fy nhemtio i ymuno, oherwydd rwy'n aml yn cytuno â llawer o'r hyn a ddywed yn y Siambr. Gobeithiaf nad yw'n hynny gwneud niwed angheuol i'ch gyrfa. Ond fe wnaeth rai pwyntiau cadarnhaol ac ymarferol iawn. Mae'n rhy hawdd siarad ynglŷn â sut y mae Cymru ar waelod y gynghrair mewn cymaint o'r tablau economaidd a sut y mae wedi mynd tuag yn ôl yn yr 20 mlynedd diwethaf, a sut y ceir gwahaniaeth enfawr o ran incwm rhwng gorllewin Cymru a Chaerdydd, er enghraifft, a bod angen inni lenwi'r bwlch. Ond y gwir amdani yw bod angen i Gymru godi lefel creu cyfoeth yn yr economi a chodi lefelau incwm yn fwy cyffredinol. [ Torri ar draws. ] Mae'n ddrwg gennyf, ni wneuthum - . Mae'n ddrwg gennyf. Felly, mae hyn yn rhywbeth sydd wedi methu digwydd i raddau syfrdanol dros yr 20 mlynedd diwethaf. Nawr, nid wyf am lwytho'r bai i gyd ar Lywodraeth Lafur Cymru oherwydd, yn amlwg, nid yw'n meddu ar yr holl ysgogiadau a phwerau economaidd. Yn wahanol i Weriniaeth Iwerddon, er enghraifft, ni all leihau'r dreth gorfforaeth na newid strwythur y dreth i ffafrio rhai o ddiwydiannau twf y dyfodol. Ac mewn gwirionedd, dros y blynyddoedd, rwyf wedi dod i deimlo'n fwy cadarnhaol tuag at ddatganoli nag yr oeddwn 20 mlynedd yn ôl, nid yn unig oherwydd fy mod wedi fy ethol i'r lle hwn, ond o ddefnyddio datganoli mewn ffordd sy'n llawn dychymyg, a'i ymestyn mewn rhai ffyrdd hyd yn oed, gallaf weld y gallem newid y cefndir economaidd cyffredinol o ran trethiant a rheoleiddio i roi mantais gymharol i ni ein hunain - [ T orri ar draws.] - o'i gymharu â'n cymdogion. Iawn, wrth gwrs.