English: Mark Isherwood used his contribution to highlight, in large part, evidence that we've received from Remploy in regard to apprentices and in regard to disabled people. This is an area where we need to see some real progress being made; the Minister's acknowledged that and accepted that recommendation in that regard as well. Joyce Watson, Rhianon Passmore and Siân Gwenllian also raised issues around gender, disabled people, Welsh speaking, and I should say that, as a committee, we did decide not to ask for specific targets in this regard; we didn't want to create a tick-box culture. We did have some discussion around that, and we are keen for those regular updates. But I think as we come back as a committee to look at this work again, and we will do, then I suppose if we feel that progress isn't being made in those areas, it might be a case where the committee are minded to look at recommending specific targets in those areas. Jack Sargeant, you should join our committee. We've just started a piece of work on automation this morning - a real fascinating session this morning, and I agree with all the points you made in that regard. And, of course, you talked about your own experience as an apprentice yourself - so, so much in common with what our committee's looking at. You'd be very welcome to join our committee, but that would mean I'd have to choose one Member on your side to leave, and I wouldn't be able to do that either. David Rowlands and Mohammad Asghar - I'll just say Oscar; I'll just call you Oscar - were also pointing out the requirements for independent career advice and getting the correct balance for the Welsh economy, and also highlighting our recommendations for equivalent support to be made, of course, between apprentices and that also available to students. If I could thank Vikki Howells, of course, for raising the issues of awareness of encouraging younger people, I suppose, and bringing your own experience as a teacher yourself - of course, I'm disappointed, like yourself, that the Government didn't accept recommendation 3 in this regard. Thank you, Nick Ramsay, for your intervention as well and for rooting through your wardrobe this afternoon to pull out an old committee paper. I think it's important that we do look at our previous committees' work and not let them gather dust; I'm certainly a big believer in that. Can I thank my colleagues on the committee for their work and their contribution, and also Members who have left our committee now? Two Members have now joined the Government since we started this piece of work. I particularly wanted to thank BT and the Prince's Trust for hosting the committee and showcasing us the work of their apprentices and young people respectively - that was a very valuable meeting for us, and we thank you for that - and also the other organisations who also submitted evidence to the committee's inquiry. So, today's debate, I think, has showcased the passion that Members have in our committee but also from Members not sitting on our committee as well. It's encouraging that a lot of Members who took part in today's debate are not members of the committee, and that's the way I think it should be; that should be the norm. And I do appreciate the Minister's enthusiasm as well in regard to apprenticeships; I can certainly agree and see that. So, I can say to the Minister the committee won't be leaving apprenticeships behind after this debate, you'll be pleased to know. We'll be publishing our thoughts on the first year of the levy later this term, and this is an issue that Hefin David and Siân Gwenllian also mentioned. So, I'm pleased to say that some of the issues around policing that were mentioned in today's debate will be addressed then as well. But I can say to the Minister we'll certainly be keeping up the pressure on the Government in regard to the support for apprenticeships and support packages for apprentices equivalent to those that are available to students as well.
Welsh: Defnyddiodd Mark Isherwood ei gyfraniad i dynnu sylw, i raddau helaeth, at dystiolaeth a gawsom gan Remploy mewn perthynas â phrentisiaid a phobl anabl. Mae hwn yn faes lle mae angen inni weld cynnydd gwirioneddol yn cael ei wneud; mae'r Gweinidog wedi cydnabod hynny ac wedi derbyn yr argymhelliad yn y cyswllt hwnnw yn ogystal. Crybwyllodd Joyce Watson, Rhianon Passmore a Siân Gwenllian faterion yn ymwneud â rhywedd, pobl anabl, siarad Cymraeg, a dylwn ddweud, fel pwyllgor, ein bod wedi penderfynu peidio â gofyn am dargedau penodol yn hyn o beth; nid oeddem eisiau creu diwylliant ticio blychau. Cawsom rywfaint o drafodaeth ynglŷn â hynny, ac rydym yn awyddus i gael y diweddariadau rheolaidd hynny. Ond wrth inni ddod yn ôl fel pwyllgor i edrych eto ar y gwaith hwn, a byddwn yn gwneud hynny, os byddwn yn teimlo nad oes cynnydd yn cael ei wneud yn y meysydd hynny, efallai y gallai'r pwyllgor ystyried argymell targedau penodol ar eu cyfer. Jack Sargeant, dylech ymuno â'n pwyllgor. Rydym newydd ddechrau gwaith ar awtomatiaeth y bore yma - cawsom sesiwn hynod ddiddorol y bore yma, ac rwy'n cytuno gyda'r holl bwyntiau a wnaethoch yn hynny o beth. Ac wrth gwrs, fe sonioch am eich profiad fel prentis eich hun - felly, cymaint yn gyffredin â'r hyn y mae ein pwyllgor yn edrych arno. Byddai croeso mawr i chi ymuno â'n pwyllgor, ond byddai hynny'n golygu y buaswn yn gorfod dewis un Aelod ar eich ochr chi i adael, ac ni allwn wneud hynny ychwaith. Roedd David Rowlands a Mohammad Asghar - fe ddywedaf Oscar; fe wnaf eich galw chi'n Oscar - hefyd yn nodi'r gofynion ar gyfer cyngor gyrfaoedd annibynnol a sicrhau'r cydbwysedd cywir ar gyfer economi Cymru, ac yn tynnu sylw hefyd at ein hargymhellion ar gyfer sicrhau cymorth i brentisiaid, wrth gwrs, sy'n cyfateb i'r hyn sydd ar gael i fyfyrwyr. Os caf ddiolch i Vikki Howells, wrth gwrs, am godi'r materion yn ymwneud ag ymwybyddiaeth i annog pobl iau, mae'n debyg, a'ch profiad eich hun fel athro - wrth gwrs, rwy'n siomedig, fel chi, na dderbyniodd y Llywodraeth argymhelliad 3 yn hyn o beth. Diolch, Nick Ramsay, am eich ymyriad yn ogystal ag am fynd drwy eich wardrob y prynhawn yma i dynnu hen bapur pwyllgor allan ohono. Mae'n bwysig ein bod yn edrych ar waith ein pwyllgorau blaenorol ac nad ydym yn gadael iddynt hel llwch; rwy'n gredwr mawr yn hynny. Hoffwn ddiolch i fy nghyd-Aelodau ar y pwyllgor am eu gwaith a'u cyfraniad, ac i'r Aelodau sydd wedi gadael ein pwyllgor bellach? Mae dau Aelod wedi ymuno â'r Llywodraeth ers i ni ddechrau'r gwaith hwn. Roeddwn eisiau diolch yn arbennig i BT ac Ymddiriedolaeth y Tywysog am wahodd y pwyllgor i arddangosiad o waith eu prentisiaid a'u pobl ifanc - roedd hwnnw'n gyfarfod gwerthfawr iawn i ni, ac rydym yn diolch ichi am hynny - ac i'r sefydliadau eraill a gyflwynodd dystiolaeth i ymchwiliad y pwyllgor. Felly, credaf fod y ddadl heddiw wedi arddangos brwdfrydedd aelodau ein pwyllgor ond hefyd, brwdfrydedd yr Aelodau nad ydynt yn aelodau o'n pwyllgor yn ogystal. Mae'n galonogol nodi bod llawer o'r Aelodau a gymerodd ran yn y ddadl heddiw heb fod yn aelodau o'r pwyllgor, a dyna'r ffordd y credaf y dylai fod; dylai hynny fod yn norm. Ac rwy'n gwerthfawrogi brwdfrydedd y Gweinidog hefyd mewn perthynas â phrentisiaethau; gallaf yn sicr gytuno a gweld hynny. Felly, gallaf ddweud wrth y Gweinidog y byddwch yn falch o wybod na fydd y pwyllgor yn gadael prentisiaethau ar ei hôl hi ar ôl y ddadl hon. Byddwn yn cyhoeddi ein barn ar flwyddyn gyntaf yr ardoll yn ddiweddarach yn ystod y tymor hwn, ac mae hwn yn fater a grybwyllwyd gan Hefin David a Siân Gwenllian. Felly, rwy'n falch o ddweud y caiff rhai o'r materion sy'n ymwneud â phlismona a grybwyllwyd yn y ddadl heddiw eu trafod bryd hynny hefyd. Ond gallaf ddweud wrth y Gweinidog y byddwn yn sicr yn dal ati i roi pwysau ar y Llywodraeth o ran y gefnogaeth i brentisiaethau a'r pecynnau cymorth i brentisiaid sy'n cyfateb i'r rhai sydd ar gael i fyfyrwyr yn ogystal.