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English: Hello, how are you all? I'm Ceri Cunnington from Blaenau Ffestiniog in north Wales. I work as a development officer for a community initiative called Cwmni Bro Ffestiniog. We're a network of 15 community initiatives and enterprises, with activities ranging from opera to a mountain biking centre, and we employ over 150 people in the local community.
Welsh: Hello, sut mae, bawb? Ie, Ceri Cunnington o Flaenau Ffestiniog yng ngogledd Cymru. Dwi'n gweithio fel gweithiwr datblygu i fenter gymunedol o'r enw Cwmni Bro Ffestiniog. Rydyn ni'n rhwydwaith o 15 o fentrau cymunedol, efo gweithgareddau yn amrywio o opera i ganolfan beicio mynydd. Rydyn ni'n cyflogi dros 150 o bobl yn y gymuned leol.
English: Thank you, Chair. If I could begin with Ceri, please. I have an interest in understanding what challenges are facing the community enterprises that make up your membership and how the Welsh Government or local authorities can support them through the cost-of-living pressures.
Welsh: Diolch, Cadeirydd. Os gallaf ddechrau gyda Ceri, os gwelwch yn dda. Mae diddordeb gyda fi i ddeall pa heriau sy'n wynebu mentrau cymunedol sy'n rhan o'ch aelodaeth a sut gall Llywodraeth Cymru neu awdurdodau lleol eu cefnogi gyda phwysau costau byw.
English: Thank you for that, Ceri. Just in terms of what you've said regarding opening the door to discussion, am I right to take from that that there is room for improvement in terms of the communication between you and the Government and local authorities?
Welsh: Diolch am hynny, Ceri. Jest o ran beth oeddech chi wedi'i ddweud ynglŷn ag agor y drws i drafodaeth, ydw i'n iawn i gymryd o hynny, felly, fod yna le i wella o ran y cyfathrebu rhyngoch chi a'r Llywodraeth ac awdurdodau lleol?
English: Ironically, during the crisis, communication has improved. We do have to recognise that. I'm in Gwynedd and there's a new regeneration framework that puts the communities first. And I do have to say that I have quite a good relationship with the Government in Cardiff too. They've been very supportive in terms of planning, such as the foundational economy, the collaborative centre and so on. So, there is room for improvement. Yes, there is room for improvement, but I wouldn't say that it's a particularly bad picture. There are things that are quite good - there are good communication methods, I would say.
Welsh: Yn eironig, yn ystod y creisis, mae cyfathrebu wedi gwella. Mae'n rhaid cydnabod hynny. Yng Ngwynedd ydw i, ac mae yna fframwaith adfywio newydd sy'n rhoi'r cymunedau'n gyntaf. Ac mae'n rhaid imi ddweud, mae gen i berthynas eithaf da efo Llywodraeth Caerdydd hefyd. Maen nhw wedi bod yn gefnogol iawn o ran cynlluniau fel yr economi sylfaenol, y ganolfan gydweithredol a ballu. So, mae yna o hyd lle i wella. Ie, mae yna o hyd lle i wella, oes, ond buaswn i ddim yn dweud ei fod o'n ddrwg. Mae yna berthynas eithaf da - mae yna ddulliau cyfathrebu eithaf da, buaswn i'n dweud.
English: We run a visitor centre and a mountain biking centre that are dependent on tourism. At present, things don't seem to be all bad there. But what we've been doing, for a decade now, is using tourism funding and investing it back into the community. So, at the moment, we buy high-street buildings - we've bought four such buildings - to turn them into homes for local people and a business unit for somebody to start their own business. That doesn't answer your question in terms of how dependent we are on tourism, but what we need is to be creative and not look at things just in siloes in terms of the tourism industry. I don't think that we are going to suffer in terms of tourism. I don't think that that's the case. Last week, we had 3,000 people visiting the site of Zip World in Llechwedd. What will have an impact is if the funding derived from that tourism leaves the area. There's enough to go around, we just need to divide it better. Sorry, that doesn't answer your question. We can't look at tourism in a silo as compared to the wider economy in this area. It's all inextricably linked. So, I'm not overly concerned about tourism, because we can't be dependent on it.
Welsh: Dŷn ni'n rhedeg canolfan ymwelwyr a chanolfan feicio mynydd sydd yn ddibynnol ar dwristiaeth. Ar y funud, dydy pethau ddim i'w weld yn ddrwg i gyd. Ond beth dŷn ni wedi bod yn gwneud, ers degawd bellach, ydy defnyddio arian twristiaeth a'i fuddsoddi fo nôl yn y gymuned. So, ar hyn o bryd, dŷn ni'n prynu adeiladau ar y stryd fawr - pedwar adeilad - a dŷn ni'n eu troi nhw i mewn i dai i bobl leol ac uned fusnes i rywun gael cychwyn busnes. Dydy hynny ddim yn ateb y cwestiwn o ran faint yn ddibynnol ydyn ni ar dwristiaeth, ond beth dŷn ni angen bod ydy bod yn greadigol a ddim edrych ar bethau mewn seilos o ran y diwydiant twristiaeth. Dwi ddim yn meddwl ein bod ni'n mynd i ddioddef o ran twristiaeth, dwi ddim yn meddwl. Wythnos diwethaf, roedd gennym ni 3,000 o bobl yn ymweld â safle Zip World yn Llechwedd. Ble dŷn ni'n mynd i ddioddef ydy os ydy'r arian yn mynd oddi yma. Mae yna ddigon i fynd o gwmpas, jest ein bod ni angen ei rannu fo'n well. Sori, dydy hynny ddim yn ateb. Fedrwn ni ddim edrych ar dwristiaeth mewn seilo i gymharu â'r economi ehangach yn yr ardal yma. So, dwi ddim yn poeni'n ormodol am dwristiaeth, achos dŷn ni ddim yn gallu bod yn ddibynnol arno fo.
English: No, thank you, Ceri. I think you've answered the question - don't worry about that.
Welsh: Na, diolch, Ceri. Rwy'n credu iti ateb y cwestiwn - paid poeni am hynny.
English: We'll move on, therefore, to item 6 on our agenda, so looking at the free trade agreement between the UK and New Zealand. Because some of our witnesses cannot be with us today, we will therefore be rearranging this session in future.
Welsh: Symudwn ni ymlaen, felly, i eitem 6 ar ein hagenda, sef edrych ar y cytundeb masnach rydd rhwng y Deyrnas Unedig a Seland Newydd. Oherwydd bod rhai o'n tystion yn methu â bod gyda ni heddiw, fe fyddwn ni felly yn aildrefnu'r sesiwn yma i'r dyfodol.
English: I'll move on, therefore, to item 7, and I propose, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42, that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the rest of the meeting. Are Members content? Yes, I see that they are. The motion has been passed and we'll move into private session.
Welsh: Fe symudaf ymlaen wedyn, felly, i eitem 7 ar ein hagenda, a dwi'n cynnig, o dan Reol Sefydlog 17.42, i benderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod. A ydy Aelodau'n fodlon? Ydyn, dwi'n gweld eu bod nhw. Felly, derbyniwyd y cynnig ac fe symudwn ni i'n sesiwn breifat.
English: Thank you, Chair, and good afternoon. You've already touched on this in your previous response to Altaf Hussain's question and, Sara, you mentioned the recent publication of the new VAWDASV strategy for 2022-26. So, I wanted your general views first of all on the strategy. Now, we've already mentioned some gaps in terms of the intervention and prevention agenda. We've already mentioned language barriers. We've also mentioned some deficiencies in terms of funding in certain areas, and perhaps this need for some kind of fund to assist those who have no recourse to public funds. So, what are the gaps? You will have seen the strategy, and I'm sure you will have fed into it also, hopefully. So, what are the gaps in your view, having read that new strategy?
Welsh: Diolch, Cadeirydd. Prynhawn da. Rŷch chi wedi dechrau cyffwrdd ar hyn yn barod yn yr ateb diwethaf i Altaf Hussain, ond, Sara, mi wnaethoch chi sôn am gyhoeddi diweddar y strategaeth newydd VAWDASV ar gyfer 2022-26. Felly, eisiau cael eich barn chi yn gyffredinol ar hynny. Rŷn ni wedi sôn yn barod am ddiffygion o ran yr agenda ymyrraeth ac ataliaeth. Rŷn ni wedi siarad am y rhwystrau o ran iaith. Rŷn ni wedi siarad am ddiffygion o ran cyllid ar gyfer rhai o'r pethau hynny, ac yn y blaen, ac efallai'r angen yma am ryw fath o gronfa i helpu'r rheini sydd ddim yn medru cael - wel, y rhai sydd â no recourse to public funds. Felly, beth yw'r bylchau? Rŷch chi wedi gweld y strategaeth, ac rwy'n siwr wedi bwydo mewn iddi hi, gobeithio, hefyd. Felly, beth yw'r bylchau, yn eich barn chi, o weld y strategaeth newydd?
English: So, I suppose, the issues that we've already discussed this afternoon, the things you want to see the Welsh Government doing, are you not confident that that's been covered in this strategy?
Welsh: Felly, am wn i, y pethau rŷn ni wedi'u trafod y prynhawn yma rŷch chi'n moyn gweld Llywodraeth Cymru yn eu gwneud, ydych chi ddim yn ffyddiog bod hynny wedi cael ei gyfro yn y strategaeth newydd?
English: Of course, just raise your hand. Sara.
Welsh: Wrth gwrs, jest codwch eich llaw. Sara.
English: On that, I was actually going to ask about this: are there any examples of best practice in Wales or beyond Wales? We did mention Scotland earlier, of course. But are there specifics that you could point to that we should be learning from?
Welsh: Ar hynny, roeddwn i yn mynd i ofyn, a dweud y gwir, a oes yna enghreifftiau o arfer gorau yng Nghymru neu du hwnt. Gwnaethon ni siarad yn gyflym am yr Alban, wrth gwrs. A oes pethau penodol y gallech chi bwyntio atyn nhw y dylem ni fod yn dysgu ohonyn nhw ac yn eu lledaenu?
English: Just one final question. I know that we're almost out of time, but I do think this is very important. I think it's something that has struck us all as members of this committee in hearing from those people affected by this violence, and I just wanted to ask you specifically to what extent you feel that migrant women and girls have been involved in the development of the VAWDASV strategy, particularly given what we've discussed in terms of issues around not wanting to share data and so on. Are you content that those voices have been heard beyond the focus groups that we know these women and girls often don't want to be involved with?
Welsh: Un cwestiwn bach i gloi. Dwi'n gwybod ein bod ni mas o amser, mwy neu lai, ond dwi'n meddwl bod hwn yn bwysig iawn. Dwi'n gwybod mai rhywbeth sydd wedi ein taro ni i gyd fel aelodau o'r pwyllgor yma yw clywed gan y bobl sy'n cael eu heffeithio gan y trais yma, ac roeddwn i jest eisiau gofyn i chi yn benodol i ba raddau ydych chi'n teimlo bod menywod a merched yn y gymuned fudol wedi cymryd rhan yn y gwaith o ddatblygu'r strategaeth trais newydd, yn enwedig o gofio am yr hyn rydyn ni wedi ei drafod o ran y materion o ran eisiau cuddio a ddim eisiau rhannu data, ac yn y blaen. Ydych chi'n fodlon bod y lleisiau yna wedi cael eu clywed y tu hwnt, fel roeddech chi'n sôn, i'r grwpiau ffocws rydyn ni'n gwybod dyw'r merched yma'n aml ddim eisiau bod yn rhan ohonyn nhw?
English: Sara, did you want to come in there?
Welsh: Sara, oeddech chi eisiau dod i mewn fanna?
English: Thank you, Chair. I want to look to the future, if I may. We've discussed what, perhaps, hasn't worked in the past, and some of the steps that have been taken more recently, and I wanted to ask specifically about your view. I think, Naomi, you made reference to the new refreshed strategy - the VAWDASV strategy. So, what are the gaps in that strategy? What are your views on it? Jo, I think you mentioned that that looking at it through the lens of migrant women was, perhaps, missing. And also, perhaps, if you could mention an issue that you touched on in terms of that deficiency in terms of the acute response to traumatic experiences. So, anything that you feel is perhaps missing or hasn't been adequately covered in that new strategy.
Welsh: Diolch, Cadeirydd. Ie, eisiau edrych ymlaen ydw i, mewn gwirionedd, i'r dyfodol. Rydyn ni wedi trafod tipyn ynglŷn â'r hyn sydd heb weithio yn y gorffennol, ac yn y blaen, a rhai o'r camau sydd wedi digwydd yn ddiweddar, ac eisiau gofyn am eich barn chi yn benodol. Fe wnaethoch chi gyfeirio ato fe, Naomi, dwi'n meddwl, at y strategaeth, y refresh newydd - y strategaeth VAWDASV newydd. Beth yw'r bylchau? Beth yw'ch barn chi arni hi? Jo, dwi'n meddwl wnaethoch chi sôn tipyn bach am y ffaith roeddech chi'n teimlo efallai bod edrych trwy'r lens yna o safbwynt profiadau menywod mudol ar goll. Ac efallai hefyd y gallwch chi sôn tipyn bach am y ffaith y gwnaethoch chi gyffwrdd arno o ran y diffyg yna o ran yr ymateb acíwt sydd yna ar gyfer profiadau trawmatig. Felly, unrhyw beth rydych chi'n teimlo sydd efallai ar goll neu heb ei gyfro yn ddigonol yn y strategaeth newydd.
English: Thank you. We are short of time and I did want to ask you more specifically about those examples of best practice outwith Wales perhaps in terms of supporting migrant women that the Welsh Government could perhaps learn from. We don't have time this afternoon to discuss that, so if I could ask you to write to the committee with any examples that you would like to highlight in that regard. And I just wanted to ask Jo very briefly, you have mentioned this issue, so I was just wondering if you had anything to add in terms of this idea of a public health approach to tackling VAWDASV, in terms of addressing those underlying risk factors that increase the likelihood that an individual will become a survivor or a perpetrator. We haven't really talked much about that this afternoon. So, I was wondering whether you had anything to add to what you've already mentioned.
Welsh: Diolch. Rydyn ni yn brin o amser, felly roeddwn i eisiau gofyn i chi yn fwy penodol am yr enghreifftiau yna o'r arfer gorau y tu hwnt i Gymru o ran cynorthwyo menywod mudol y gallai Llywodraeth Cymru efallai ddysgu ohonyn nhw. Does dim amser gyda ni y prynhawn yma efallai i drafod hynny, felly, os gallaf i ofyn i chi i gysylltu â'r pwyllgor gydag unrhyw enghreifftiau y byddech chi'n hoffi eu huwcholeuo o ran hynny. A dwi jest eisiau gofyn yn sydyn iawn i Jo, rydych chi wedi sôn am hyn, felly jest os oes gyda chi rywbeth i'w ychwanegu o ran y syniad yma o ddefnyddio dull iechyd cyhoeddus o ran mynd i'r afael â thrais domestig, o ran rhoi sylw i'r ffactorau risg sylfaenol yma sy'n cynyddu'r tebygolrwydd y bydd unigolyn yn dod yn oroeswr neu'n gyflawnwr. Dydyn ni ddim wedi siarad lot am hynny y prynhawn yma. Felly, oes gyda chi rywbeth i'w ychwanegu at yr hyn rydych chi wedi sôn amdano fe'n barod?
English: Thank you, Chair, and thank you, Kirsty. You've mentioned a number of examples of good practice already, but I just wanted to ask you to tell us about the aspects of policy and support in your nation that the Welsh Government could learn from. We heard in an earlier evidence session how the Scottish Government is working strategically in partnership with the Scottish Refugee Council, for example. So, I'd like to hear your views on that. You have mentioned how the Government deals with no recourse to public funds, which isn't something that happens in Wales, so any aspects on best practice that you think that we could learn from.
Welsh: Diolch, Gadeirydd, a diolch, Kirsty. Rŷch chi wedi sôn am nifer o achosion o arfer gorau yn barod, ond rôn i jest eisiau gofyn ichi archwilio, efallai, yr agweddau ar bolisi a chymorth y gallai - yn eich cenedl chi - Llywodraeth Cymru ddysgu ohonyn nhw. Rhywbeth wnaethom ni glywed yn un o'n sesiynau tystiolaeth cynharach oedd sut mae Llywodraeth yr Alban yn gweithio'n strategol, mewn partneriaeth strategol, â Chyngor Ffoaduriaid yr Alban, er enghraifft. Felly, byddwn i'n hoffi clywed eich barn chi ar hynny. Rŷch chi wedi sôn tipyn bach am sut mae'r Llywodraeth yn delio â no recourse to public funds, sydd ddim yn rhywbeth sy'n digwydd yng Nghymru, felly unrhyw agweddau ar hynny, unrhyw agweddau ar arfer gorau rŷch chi'n meddwl y gallem ni ddysgu ohonyn nhw.
English: Welcome to you all.
Welsh: Croeso i chi i gyd.
English: Good afternoon, and welcome to this Plenary session. Before we begin, I want to set out a few points. This meeting will be held in hybrid format, with some Members in the Senedd Chamber and others joining by video-conference. All Members participating in proceedings of the Senedd, wherever they may be, will be treated equally. A Plenary meeting held using video-conference, in accordance with the Standing Orders of the Welsh Parliament, constitutes Senedd proceedings for the purposes of the Government of Wales Act 2006. Some of the provisions of Standing Order 34 will apply for today's meeting, and these are set out on your agenda.
Welsh: Prynhawn da. Croeso, bawb, i'r Cyfarfod Llawn. Cyn i ni ddechrau, dwi angen nodi ychydig o bwyntiau. Cynhelir y cyfarfod hwn ar ffurf hybrid, gyda rhai Aelodau yn Siambr y Senedd ac eraill yn ymuno trwy gyswllt fideo. Bydd yr holl Aelodau sy'n cymryd rhan yn nhrafodion y Senedd, ble bynnag y bônt, yn cael eu trin yn gyfartal. Mae Cyfarfod Llawn a gynhelir drwy gynhadledd fideo, yn unol â Rheolau Sefydlog Senedd Cymru, yn gyfystyr â thrafodion y Senedd at ddibenion Deddf Llywodraeth Cymru 2006. Bydd rhai o ddarpariaethau Rheol Sefydlog 34 yn gymwys ar gyfer y Cyfarfod Llawn heddiw, ac mae'r rheini wedi'u nodi ar eich agenda chi.
English: Before we start the meeting, and before any of you try and get in on being the first to congratulate the Welsh football team, let me the person to do that on our behalf, and to say to the football team, and the Football Association of Wales, how proud we all are as a Senedd of their tremendous success. [ Applause.] And I can tell Members that I'm already looking into whether there's a conflict of timing between games and Plenary sessions in order to see how we can sort that out later on in the year.
Welsh: Cyn i ni ddechrau'r cyfarfod, a chyn i unrhyw un ohonoch chi geisio neidio i mewn fel y cyntaf i longyfarch tîm pêl-droed Cymru, gadewch i mi fod y person i wneud hynny ar ein rhan, a dweud wrth y tîm pêl-droed, a Chymdeithas Bêl-droed Cymru, pa mor falch yr ydym ni i gyd fel Senedd o'u llwyddiant aruthrol. [ Cymeradwyaeth.] A gallaf ddweud wrth yr Aelodau fy mod i eisoes yn ystyried a oes gwrthdaro o ran amseru rhwng gemau a Chyfarfodydd Llawn er mwyn gweld sut y gallwn ni ddatrys hynny yn ddiweddarach yn y flwyddyn.
English: We'll move on to our first item this afternoon, which is questions to the First Minister, and the first question is from Darren Millar.
Welsh: Felly, awn ni ymlaen i'r eitem gyntaf y prynhawn yma, sef y cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog, ac mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf gan Darren Millar.
English: Llywydd, the Welsh Government will seek to implement the conclusions of the Senedd on this matter.
Welsh: Llywydd, bydd Llywodraeth Cymru yn ceisio gweithredu casgliadau'r Senedd ar y mater hwn.
English: Thank you for that response. Of course, the conclusions of the Senedd committee tie in very well with the conclusions of the discussions between you and the leader of Plaid Cymru. And, of course, if those conclusions and recommendations are implemented, it will be the most significant shake-up to elections to the Senedd since it was founded back in 1999, scrapping the current system whereby 40 Members are elected on a first-past-the-post basis. Now, when such significant changes to voting systems have been presented in the past, they have been put to the public vote, for the public to have a say via a referendum. Back in 2011, when there was a proposal to scrap the first-past-the-post system for Westminster elections, quite rightly, the UK Prime Minister, David Cameron, put that decision into the hands of the public via a referendum. Given that there was no specific mention of an increase in Members of the Senedd in your party's manifesto for the last Senedd election, do you accept that there is a need for the public to have a direct say on the package of proposals that is being put forward before this Senedd and will be debated tomorrow?
Welsh: Diolch am yr ymateb yna. Wrth gwrs, mae casgliadau pwyllgor y Senedd yn cyd-fynd yn dda iawn â chasgliadau'r trafodaethau rhyngoch chi ac arweinydd Plaid Cymru. Ac, wrth gwrs, os caiff y casgliadau a'r argymhellion hynny eu gweithredu, hwn fydd yr ad-drefnu mwyaf sylweddol o etholiadau i'r Senedd ers ei sefydlu yn ôl ym 1999, gan ddileu'r system bresennol lle caiff 40 o Aelodau eu hethol ar sail y cyntaf i'r felin. Nawr, pan gyflwynwyd newidiadau mor sylweddol i systemau pleidleisio yn y gorffennol, fe'u gwnaed yn destun pleidlais gyhoeddus, er mwyn i'r cyhoedd gael lleisio eu barn drwy refferendwm. Yn ôl yn 2011, pan oedd cynnig i gael gwared ar y system y cyntaf i'r felin ar gyfer etholiadau San Steffan, rhoddodd Prif Weinidog y DU, David Cameron, y penderfyniad hwnnw, a hynny'n gwbl briodol, yn nwylo'r cyhoedd drwy refferendwm. O gofio nad oedd unrhyw gyfeiriad penodol at gynnydd i nifer yr Aelodau o'r Senedd ym maniffesto eich plaid ar gyfer etholiad diwethaf y Senedd, a ydych chi'n derbyn bod angen i'r cyhoedd gael leisio barn uniongyrchol ar y pecyn o gynigion sy'n cael ei gyflwyno gerbron y Senedd hon ac a fydd yn cael ei drafod yfory?
English: Llywydd, the public have already had their say. They elected Members to this Senedd in a sufficient number to bring about, as Darren Millar said, the greatest reform of the Senedd since its inception. Those of us who stood on manifestos in favour of reform look forward to taking this to a conclusion.
Welsh: Llywydd, mae'r cyhoedd eisoes wedi lleisio eu barn. Fe wnaethon nhw ethol Aelodau i'r Senedd hon mewn niferoedd digonol i sicrhau, fel y dywedodd Darren Millar, y diwygiad mwyaf i'r Senedd ers ei sefydlu. Mae'r rheini ohonom ni a safodd ar faniffestos o blaid diwygio yn edrych ymlaen at gyflawni'r broses hon.
English: I don't know what you were doing, First Minister, in 1973; I was in Dukestown Junior School in Tredegar. I'm not sure what Darren Millar was doing in 1973, but I'm sure he wasn't reading the report of Lord Kilbrandon, who reported at that time that Wales needed a Parliament of 100 members. Since then, we've had reports from Ivor Richard, from Laura McAllister, from everybody who's looked at these matters, and they've all come to the same conclusion. And yet, for most of, in fact all of Darren Millar's lifetime, the time has never been right. The reality is they stuff the House of Lords, as they have already today, with unelected peers. They put them straight in the UK Government without any democratic accountability, and they come here seeking a referendum, not because they believe it - and I don't believe any of them believe the nonsense they talk on these matters - but because they simply don't like Welsh democracy. Do you agree with me, First Minister?
Welsh: Wn i ddim beth roeddech chi'n ei wneud, Prif Weinidog, ym 1973; roeddwn i yn Ysgol Iau Dukestown yn Nhredegar. Dydw i ddim yn siŵr beth yr oedd Darren Millar yn ei wneud ym 1973, ond rwy'n siŵr nad oedd yn darllen adroddiad yr Arglwydd Kilbrandon, a ddywedodd bryd hynny bod Cymru angen Senedd o 100 o aelodau. Ers hynny, rydym ni wedi cael adroddiadau gan Ivor Richard, gan Laura McAllister, gan bawb sydd wedi edrych ar y materion hyn, ac maen nhw i gyd wedi dod i'r un casgliad. Ac eto, yn ystod y rhan fwyaf o oes Darren Millar, y cwbl mewn gwirionedd, nid yw'r amser erioed wedi bod yn iawn. Y gwir amdani yw eu bod nhw'n stwffio Tŷ'r Arglwyddi, fel y maen nhw eisoes wedi ei wneud heddiw, gydag Arglwyddi anetholedig. Maen nhw'n eu rhoi nhw yn syth yn Llywodraeth y DU heb unrhyw atebolrwydd democrataidd, ac maen nhw'n dod yma i ofyn am refferendwm, nid am eu bod nhw'n ei gredu - a dydw i ddim yn credu bod yr un ohonyn nhw'n credu'r nonsens y maen nhw'n ei siarad am y materion hyn - ond gan nad ydyn nhw'n hoffi democratiaeth Cymru. A ydych chi'n cytuno â mi, Prif Weinidog?