English: Could I also welcome the new Minister to the post? Also, could I congratulate her for saying that she has an open mind? That has characterised her and her attitude towards politics generally, the fact that she does reach out to people. And we greatly need that, I think, in discussing where we go from here with this White Paper because the debate about the annual report, of course, naturally, on the Welsh language commissioner, is under the shadow of a policy, as it stands now in the White Paper, which talks of abolishing the commissioner. As we've heard already today from the leader of Plaid Cymru, the consensus of opinion in Wales - and as we heard from Siân Gwenllian, that is reflected outside Wales - is that that would be an empty step and would ruin the consensus on the language that has been built very carefully over the last decade. So, I would urge the Minister to think again about the way ahead. It was interesting, wasn't it, to see the 10 language commissioners across the world coming together feeling so passionately about this, because some of them do admire the progress that has been seen in Wales with language policy over the last few years, but they were concerned, to tell the truth, that there is an error being made here. Commissioners from Canada, Catalonia and the Basque Country and Flanders and so forth were saying that we have to protect the fundamental principle of the independence of the commissioner and that an independent commissioner individually is the best model that works across the board. They talked of the experiences of Canada in the 1970s, for example, where the fact that the commissioner was completely independent of the political process and the Government was a way to protect linguistic rights in that context. I was trying to understand what was driving this suggestion, which was stupid, in my opinion, to get rid of a structure that is starting to deliver, as we've heard through the assurance report already. What was driving that? Some reference - that is, not much of an evidence base, to tell you the truth - to weaknesses in terms of governance. But, if we look at page 108 onwards of the report, we see that there is robust governance - the need for a strategic plan and performance reviews, and a deputy commissioner there as well, a management team, a risk and assurance committee, external audit and so forth. So, in my opinion, there is quite robust governance there. Now, that doesn't mean that we are satisfied with the current situation. There is scope for progress, certainly, but I wouldn't say that the commissioner, perhaps, is to blame for that. For example, on page 58, there is talk of the private sector. It notes that, for example, with the water and sewerage companies, the commissioner has given a response to this consultation. In terms of the bus and train sector, which was mentioned earlier, the commissioner published a standards report on 1 July last year. That is, the Government is to blame that there's been no progress in this direction. When we look at the gas and electricity sector and the utilities, the standards report was published by the commissioner in February 2017, and it has been on the desk of the previous Minister. So, could I ask the Minister to say whether we can move on now and have the response of the Government to these standards? There is a reference on page 50 of the annual report to the freedom to use the Welsh language under section 111 of the Measure. It notes that, since the commissioner was established, 14 of the 18 requests under this Measure didn't align with the definition of the section. So, since the commissioner's role was established, there have only been two investigations into cases about the fundamental right to use our own language in our own country. So, there is scope for progress. There is scope in the new Bill to provide a fundamental right to people to speak Welsh. That's what the Government should focus on, not getting rid of a body, which, according to the evidence that we have, is succeeding very well under the framework that exists at present.
Welsh: A gaf i hefyd groesawu'r Gweinidog newydd i'w swydd, a hefyd ei llongyfarch hi am ddweud bod ganddi hi feddwl agored? Mae hynny wedi'i nodweddu hi a'i hagwedd at wleidyddiaeth yn gyffredinol, y ffaith ei bod hi yn ymestyn mas i bobl. Ac, mae mawr angen hynny, rwy'n credu, wrth nawr drafod ble rydym ni'n mynd o fan hyn gyda'r Papur Gwyn. Oherwydd mae'r drafodaeth ynglŷn â'r adroddiad blynyddol, wrth gwrs, wrth reswm, ar y comisiynydd Cymraeg, o dan gysgod polisi, fel y mae'n sefyll ar hyn o bryd yn y Papur Gwyn, sydd yn sôn am ddiddymu'r comisiynydd. Ac, fel rydym ni wedi clywed eisoes, yn gynharach heddiw, gan arweinydd Plaid Cymru, y consensws barn yng Nghymru - ac fel yr oeddem yn clywed gan Siân Gwenllian, mae'n cael ei adlewyrchu y tu fas i Gymru - yw y byddai hynny'n gam gwag, a dweud y gwir, ac yn chwalu consensws iaith sydd wedi cael ei adeiladu yn ofalus iawn dros y ddegawd ddiwethaf. Os felly, byddwn i yn ymbil i'r Gweinidog nawr i feddwl eto ynglŷn â'r ffordd ymlaen. Roedd e'n ddiddorol i weld y 10 comisiynydd iaith ar draws y byd yn dod at ei gilydd yn teimlo mor angerddol ynglŷn â hyn, a dweud y gwir, achos mae rhai ohonyn nhw yn edmygu'r cynnydd sydd wedi bod yng Nghymru gyda pholisi iaith yn y blynyddoedd diwethaf, ond yn ofni, a dweud y gwir, fod yna gamsyniad yn y fan hyn. Comisiynwyr o Ganada, i Gatalonia, Gwlad y Basg i Fflandrys ac yn y blaen yn dweud bod yn rhaid amddiffyn yr egwyddor sylfaenol yma o annibyniaeth y comisiynydd, ac mai comisiynydd annibynnol yn unigol ydy'r model sydd yn gweithio orau ar draws y byd. Maen nhw'n sôn am brofiad yng Nghanada yn y 1970au, er enghraifft, lle'r oedd y ffaith roedd y comisiynydd yn hollol annibynnol o'r broses wleidyddol ac o'r Llywodraeth yn ffordd o amddiffyn hawliau iaith yn y cyd-destun hwnnw. Roeddwn i'n ceisio deall, a dweud y gwir, beth oedd yn gyrru'r awgrym hurt, o'm rhan i, o gael gwared ar strwythur sydd yn dechrau delifro, fel ydym ni wedi clywed sôn, trwy'r adroddiad sicrwydd, yn barod. Beth oedd yn ei yrru fe? Rhyw gyfeiriad - hynny yw, dim lot o sylfaen dystiolaethol o gwbl, a dweud y gwir - at ddiffygion o ran llywodraethiant. Ond, os ŷm ni'n edrych ar dudalen 108 ymlaen yn yr adroddiad blynyddol, rydym ni'n gweld mae yna lywodraethiant cadarn yna, a dweud y gwir - yr angen am gynllun strategol ac adolygu perfformiad, dirprwy gomisiynydd yno hefyd, tîm rheoli, pwyllgor archwilio risg ac archwilio allanol ac yn y blaen. Felly, i'm tyb i, mae yna lywodraethiant eithaf cadarn yno. Nawr, nid yw hynny'n meddwl ein bod ni'n bodloni ar y sefyllfa sydd ohoni. Mae yna le ar gyfer cynnydd yn sicr, ond ni fuaswn i'n dweud mai'r comisiynydd, efallai, sydd ar fai am hynny. Er enghraifft, ar dudalen 58, mae yna sôn am y sector preifat. Mae'n nodi bod, er enghraifft, gyda'r cwmnïau dŵr a charthffosiaeth, y comisiynydd wedi cyflwyno ymateb i'r ymgynghoriad hwn. O ran y sector bysus a threnau - roedd yna sôn amdanyn nhw yn gynharach heddiw, wrth gwrs - fe gyhoeddodd y comisiynydd yr adroddiad safonau ar 1 Gorffennaf y llynedd. Hynny yw, ar y Llywodraeth mae'r bai bod yna ddim cynnydd wedi bod i'r cyfeiriad yma. Pan ydym ni'n edrych ar y sectorau nwy a thrydan a'r cyfleustodau cysylltiedig, fe gyhoeddwyd yr adroddiad safonau gan y comisiynydd ar 24 Chwefror 2017, ac mae wedi bod ar ddesg y Gweinidog blaenorol. Felly, a gaf i ofyn i'r Gweinidog ddweud a ydym ni'n gallu symud rhagddi nawr i gael ymateb y Llywodraeth i'r safonau yma? Mae yna gyfeiriad hefyd ar dudalen 50 yn yr adroddiad blynyddol i'r rhyddid i ddefnyddio'r Gymraeg o dan adran 111 y Mesur, ac mae'n nodi, ers sefydlu'r comisiwn, nad oedd 14 cais o'r 18 o geisiadau perthnasol o dan y Mesur yma yn cyd-fynd â diffiniad yr adran. Felly, ers sefydlu'r comisiynydd, dim ond ymchwiliad mewn i ddau achos sydd wedi bod i mewn i'r gallu sylfaenol i ddefnyddio ein iaith ein hunain yn ein gwlad ein hunain. Felly, mae yna le ar gyfer cynnydd. Mae yna le, yn y Mesur newydd, i roi hawl sylfaenol i bobl siarad Cymraeg. Ar hynny y dylai Llywodraeth Cymru ffocysu, nid cael gwared ar gorff sydd, yn ôl y dystiolaeth sydd gyda ni, yn llwyddo yn arbennig o dda o dan y fframwaith sydd yn bodoli ar hyn o bryd.