English: Well, I thank Nick Ramsay for that and I thank the PAC for the work that they're doing in looking at the model. I'm sure there will be things that we will want to learn from the work that the committee is undertaking. Llywydd, I hope to make a statement very shortly, updating Members on the latest developments in relation to the mutual investment model, including some close interest which has been taken in it at the United Nations in looking at ways in which the ground that we have been able to break in creating that model might be of interest to other countries who are also involved in looking for innovative ways to expand capital investment programmes. Specifically in relation to band B of the twenty-first century schools programme, I think the correct analogy for local authorities to be looking at is not PFI, where we have very little use of it, but the way in which using ideas developed by my predecessor, Jane Hutt, we have been able to use local authorities' ability to make things happen, and then to fund the revenue consequences of that to allow them to use the capacity that they have to invest in the capital field, and that's what we would look to do in the twenty-first century schools programme. As to the argument about locking in local authorities to assets that they may not need in the long run, that's an important point. Local authorities need to think carefully about that in the way in which they bring forward proposals to use the mutual investment model in the twenty-first century schools area. For example, I think it is unlikely that special schools would be suitable for this model, because the nature of special education changes, and the intensity of use of a special school in terms of the physical fabric, inevitably, given the nature of the pupil population that they serve, is intense as well, and so the model will be suitable for some aspects of the school estate but not necessarily for all.
Welsh: Wel, diolch i Nick Ramsay am hynny a diolch i'r Pwyllgor Cyfrifon Cyhoeddus am eu gwaith yn archwilio'r model. Rwy'n siŵr y bydd pethau y byddwn yn awyddus i'w dysgu o'r gwaith y mae'r pwyllgor yn ei wneud. Lywydd, gobeithiaf wneud datganiad cyn bo hir, yn rhoi diweddariad i'r Aelodau ar y datblygiadau diweddaraf mewn perthynas â'r model buddsoddi cydfuddiannol, gan gynnwys y diddordeb mawr a fynegwyd ynddo gan y Cenhedloedd Unedig wrth archwilio'r ffyrdd y gallai ein harloesedd wrth greu'r model hwnnw fod o ddiddordeb i wledydd eraill sydd hefyd yn chwilio am ffyrdd arloesol o ehangu rhaglenni buddsoddi cyfalaf. Mewn perthynas â band B rhaglen ysgolion yr unfed ganrif ar hugain yn benodol, yn hytrach na mentrau cyllid preifat lle nad oes gennym fawr o ddefnydd ohonynt, credaf mai'r gyfatebiaeth gywir i awdurdodau lleol ei hystyried yw'r ffordd yr ydym, drwy ddefnyddio syniadau a ddatblygwyd gan fy rhagflaenydd, Jane Hutt, wedi gallu defnyddio gallu awdurdodau lleol i wneud i bethau ddigwydd, ac yna ariannu canlyniadau refeniw hynny i'w galluogi i ddefnyddio'r gallu sydd ganddynt i fuddsoddi ym maes cyfalaf, a dyna y byddem yn awyddus i'w wneud yn rhaglen ysgolion yr unfed ganrif ar hugain. O ran y ddadl ynglŷn â chloi awdurdodau lleol i mewn i asedau na fyddant eu hangen, o bosibl, yn y tymor hir, mae hwnnw'n bwynt pwysig. Mae angen i awdurdodau lleol feddwl yn ofalus ynglŷn â'r ffordd y maent yn cyflwyno cynigion i ddefnyddio'r model buddsoddi cydfuddiannol mewn perthynas ag ysgolion yr unfed ganrif ar hugain. Er enghraifft, credaf ei bod yn annhebygol y byddai ysgolion arbennig yn addas ar gyfer y model hwn, gan fod natur addysg arbennig yn newid, ac mae dwysedd y defnydd o ysgol arbennig o ran yr adeiladwaith ffisegol, yn anochel, o gofio natur y boblogaeth ddisgyblion y maent yn eu gwasanaethu, yn ddwys hefyd, ac felly bydd y model yn addas ar gyfer rhai agweddau ar yr ystâd ysgolion, ond nid pob un o reidrwydd.