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English: Thank you very much for that. I think that Joyce Watson wants to ask a question about Hywel Dda specifically, but isn't there a case to think, especially looking at Betsi Cadwaladr and Hywel Dda, which are relatively similar boards, that there is something wrong in the baseline that is set for them? I'm thinking of Betsi Cadwaladr as a board that sees a huge increase in the population it serves during the holiday period, and that has a far older population than the average for Wales. Isn't it time to look, Minister or officials, at this? Are the expectations on these boards fair?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn am hynny. Dwi'n meddwl bod Joyce Watson eisiau holi cwestiwn ynglŷn â Hywel Dda yn benodol, ond onid oes yna achos i feddwl, yn enwedig, o bosibl, yn edrych ar Betsi Cadwaladr a Hywel Dda, sydd yn fyrddau eithaf tebyg, bod yna rywbeth o'i le yn y baseline sy'n cael ei osod ar eu cyfer nhw? Dwi'n meddwl am Betsi Cadwaladr, er enghraifft, fel bwrdd sydd yn gweld ymchwydd enfawr yn y boblogaeth mae o'n ei gwasanaethu yn ystod tymhorau gwyliau, ac sydd â phoblogaeth llawer hŷn na phoblogaeth gyfartaledd Cymru. Onid ydy hi, o bosibl, yn amser i edrych, Weinidog neu swyddogion - ? Ydy'r disgwyliadau ar y byrddau hynny yn deg?
English: Thank you very much. A question now - and perhaps this is related - regarding the reserves. I know that written evidence from the Welsh Government states that funding is being kept centrally to support the deficits in Swansea bay and Hywel Dda. So, how much is held in reserve, and is funding being reserved to cover the possible deficits in 2022-23?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Cwestiwn nawr - mae'n bosib bod hyn yn gysylltiedig - ynglŷn ag arian sy'n cael ei gadw wrth gefn. Dwi'n meddwl bod tystiolaeth ysgrifenedig Llywodraeth Cymru yn dweud bod arian yn cael ei ddal yn ganolog i gefnogi'r diffygion sy'n parhau ym mae Abertawe ac yn Hywel Dda. Faint sydd yn cael ei ddal wrth gefn, ac oes yna arian yn cael ei ddal wrth gefn i gyfro diffygion posib yn 2022-23?
English: Another question that is related to this, and, actually, it's related to an earlier question that I asked is this: how are you as Minister going to ensure that health boards spend the money that they are supposed to spend on transforming services on that specific purpose, rather than just paying to continue with what they're doing at the moment?
Welsh: Ac un cwestiwn arall sy'n gysylltiedig, am wn i, ac mae'n gysylltiedig efo cwestiwn wnes i ofyn yn gynharach, a dweud y gwir: sut ydych chi fel Gweinidog yn mynd i wneud yn siŵr bod byrddau iechyd yn gwario'r arian maen nhw'n fod i'w wario ar drawsnewid gwasanaethau ar wneud hynny, yn hytrach nag i jest dalu am gario ymlaen i wneud y pethau maen nhw'n eu gwneud ar hyn o bryd?
English: That's what we'll be looking at in their integrated medium-term plans. We'll be looking in detail. If they propose to do more of the same, then we will be able to send the plans back but work with them, too, to adapt the plans. I think it's important that it's them who take ownership of these plans. We've made it clear and we've set out the priorities that we want to see, and they are all looking to the future. So, there will be an expectation to respond to what we have asked them to do, and, if they don't, we can just work with them to adapt their plans.
Welsh: Dyna beth fyddwn ni'n edrych arno yn eu IMTPs nhw, yn eu cynlluniau nhw. Fe fyddwn ni'n edrych mewn manylder. Os byddan nhw'n cynnig gwneud mwy o'r un peth, mi fyddwn ni yn gallu jest anfon y cynlluniau nôl ond gweithio gyda nhw i addasu'r cynlluniau yna. Dwi'n meddwl ei bod hi'n bwysig mai nhw sydd biau'r cynlluniau yma. Rŷm ni wedi gwneud yn glir ac rydym ni wedi setio allan y blaenoriaethau rŷm ni eisiau eu gweld, ac mae rhai o'r rhain - . Maen nhw i gyd yn edrych at y dyfodol, ac felly fe fydd yna ddisgwyliad iddyn nhw i ymateb i'r hyn rŷm ni wedi gofyn iddyn nhw wneud. Os na fyddan nhw, wrth gwrs, fe allwn ni wedyn weithio gyda nhw i newid eu cynlluniau nhw.
English: Finally from me, you're seeking efficiency savings, and I'm going to ask two different questions. There's an expectation, according to your evidence paper, that NHS organisations should plan to deliver around 1.5 per cent of efficiency savings as a minimum, and to continue to do so in following years. Considering that a number of health boards have failed to deliver that over the past years, is that target too ambitious? But then, to turn that around, is it even close to being enough in terms of what we should be seeking with regard to efficiency savings in order to stabilise the NHS for the future?
Welsh: Ac yn olaf gen i, arbedion effeithiolrwydd rydach chi'n chwilio amdanyn nhw, a dwi'n mynd i ofyn dau gwestiwn gwahanol. Y disgwyliad, yn ôl eich papur tystiolaeth chi, ydy y dylai sefydliadau'r NHS gynllunio i ddelifro tua 1.5 y cant o arbedion effeithlonrwydd fel lleiafrif, ac i gario ymlaen i wneud hynny mewn blynyddoedd wedyn. O ystyried bod nifer o fyrddau iechyd wedi methu â delifro hynny dros y blynyddoedd diwethaf, ydy'r targed hwnnw yn rhy uchelgeisiol? Ond, i'w droi o ar ei ben, ydy o'n hanner digon faint rydyn ni angen bod yn chwilio amdano fo go iawn mewn arbedion effeithlonrwydd er mwyn sefydlogi'r NHS ar gyfer yr hirdymor?
English: I think that ensuring that they are more effective and efficient is vital, and that's why, for me, it is crucial that we do include this target. We haven't put as much pressure on them this year as we would have in a typical year, but, despite that, they have still been able to make £110 million-worth of savings during this financial year, and that is twice what they'd managed to do in the previous year. So, that's around 1.5 per cent of the budget. So, they've succeeded in doing that this year, and this year has been quite a tough year. So, I don't think it is asking too much for 1.5 per cent. I suppose the question then is: why don't you go further? I am very aware that there's been huge pressure on these people over the past year. I think we do have to push them, but I don't want to push them too far so that they topple. So, I think that striking that balance is very difficult.
Welsh: Dwi'n meddwl bod sicrhau eu bod nhw'n fwy effeithiol yn hollol bwysig, a dyna pam, i fi, mae'n hollbwysig ein bod ni'n rhoi hwn i fewn. Dŷn ni ddim wedi rhoi cymaint o bwysau arnyn nhw eleni ag y byddem ni mewn blwyddyn typical, ond, er hynny, maen nhw'n dal wedi gallu gwneud gwerth £110 miliwn o arbedion yn ystod y flwyddyn ariannol yma, ac mae hwnna'n ddwbl beth roedden nhw wedi llwyddo i'w wneud llynedd. So, mae hwnna tua 1.5 y cant o'r gyllideb. Felly, maen nhw wedi llwyddo i'w wneud e eleni, ac mae eleni wedi bod yn flwyddyn eithaf tyff. So, dwi ddim yn meddwl ei fod e'n gofyn gormod am 1.5 y cant. I suppose y cwestiwn wedyn yw: pam nad ewch chi ymhellach? Dwi'n ymwybodol dros ben fod yna bwysau aruthrol wedi bod ar y bobl yma dros y flwyddyn ddiwethaf yma. Dwi'n meddwl bod yn rhaid i ni eu gwthio nhw, ond dwi ddim eisiau eu gwthio nhw'n rhy bell fel eu bod nhw'n 'topple-o'. Felly, mae cael y balans yma'n iawn yn anodd dros ben.
English: I suppose what I'm referring to is savings through transformation. So, we should be aiming not to spend more and more and more, but spending less and less. I remember one previous Labour Minister criticising me for saying that I'd like to spend less on health. I didn't want to cut health budgets as health spokesperson for my party at the time, but I wanted us to be in a situation where we didn't have to spend so much on the expensive stuff.
Welsh: Ac am wn i, beth dwi'n gyfeirio ato fo ydy arbedion drwy drawsnewid, onid e? Hynny ydy, mi ddylem ni fod yn anelu nid i drio gwario mwy a mwy a mwy ar iechyd, ond i wario llai a llai a llai. Dwi'n cofio un cyn-Weinidog Llafur yn fy meirniadu i am ddweud y byddwn i'n licio gwario llai ar iechyd. Nid eisiau torri cyllideb iechyd oeddwn i fel llefarydd iechyd fy mhlaid ar y pryd, ond eisiau inni fod mewn sefyllfa lle dydyn ni ddim yn gorfod gwario cymaint ar y stwff drud.
English: For me, an important part of that is that we look at prevention and that we spend more on the preventative agenda. That's certainly something that I've asked them to do, to ensure that we do learn lessons from this pandemic. As you mentioned in the debate yesterday in the Senedd, if we don't do something to genuinely tackle inequality, then we will continue to be in this situation and it will be the same people calling on the NHS's services time after time. So, for me, I think that's vital in terms of where our priorities lie. Is that an efficiency? Yes, I think it is, ultimately, but perhaps you won't see the funding coming back this year or the next year.
Welsh: I fi, rhan bwysig o hynny, felly, yw ein bod ni'n edrych ar prevention a'n bod ni'n gwario mwy o arian ar prevention. Mae hwnna'n sicr yn rhywbeth dwi wedi gofyn iddyn nhw wneud - mae'n rhaid i ni ddysgu gwersi o'r pandemig yma. Fel gwnaethoch chi gyfeirio ato yn y drafodaeth ddoe yn y Senedd, os nad ydyn ni'n mynd ati i wneud rywbeth gwirioneddol i daclo'r anghydraddoldeb, wedyn fe fyddwn ni yn cario ymlaen yn yr un sefyllfa, a'r un bobl fydd yn dod nôl at yr NHS dro ar ôl tro. So, i fi, mae hwnna'n hollbwysig hefyd o ran ble mae'n blaenoriaethau ni. Ydy hwnna'n efficiency? Dwi'n meddwl ei fod e, yn y pen draw, ond efallai wnewch chi ddim gweld yr arian yn dod nôl y flwyddyn yma neu'r flwyddyn nesaf.
English: Thank you, Minister. Thank you, Chair.
Welsh: Diolch, Weinidog. Diolch, Gadeirydd.
English: Thank you very much, Chair. One thing that is holding us back in the battle against COVID is the too high percentage of people who haven't yet been vaccinated. Nobody here wants to compel people to be vaccinated or to make it mandatory. I don't think that appeals to anyone as a matter of principle. But there are many options being implemented by several nations worldwide. We know about Canada now looking at taxation and how that can be used as an incentive for people to be vaccinated. We know about the private sector, businesses changing terms of employment in sickness pay and so on. We know of other nations that offer incentives for people to be vaccinated. Does the Government have any intention of looking at strengthening COVID passes, other ways of encouraging take-up of vaccines?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn, Cadeirydd. Un peth sydd yn ein dal ni yn ôl yn y frwydr yn erbyn COVID ydy'r ganran rhy uchel o bobl sydd ddim wedi cael eu brechu, wrth gwrs. Does yna neb yn y fan hon eisiau mynd i lawr y llwybr o orfodi brechu, ei wneud o'n fandadol. Dwi ddim yn meddwl bod hynny'n rhywbeth sy'n apelio at unrhyw un ar fater o egwyddor. Ond mae yna lawer o opsiynau yn cael eu gweithredu gan nifer o wledydd. Rydyn ni'n gwybod bod Canada rŵan yn edrych ar drethiant a sut mae hynny'n gallu cael ei ddefnyddio fel anogaeth i bobl gael eu brechu. Rydyn ni'n gwybod am hyd yn oed, yn y sector breifat, y busnesau yn newid amodau tâl salwch. Rydyn ni'n gwybod am wledydd eraill sydd yn cynnig incentives i bobl gael y brechiad mewn gwahanol ffyrdd. Oes gan y Llywodraeth fwriad o edrych ar gryfhau COVID passes, defnyddio unrhyw arfau eraill er mwyn annog take-up uwch o frechu?
English: Thank you. Certainly, what we are looking at at the moment is to focus on those things that can be done easily. We still have a long way to go in terms of vaccination, because there are many people who haven't yet received the booster, particularly in that age range between 20 to 40, and that corresponds with how many people were suffering from omicron, so they can't have the vaccine within 28 days, so the programme will have to last for slightly longer than we had hoped, perhaps. But we still have more boosters to do. We have boosters for 16 to 17-year-olds, we have 12 to 15-year-olds at risk, we have a second dose for those between 12 and 18, we have a first dose to start for those between five and 11 years of age who are clinically at risk. So, we do have a long way to go with those cohorts that haven't had that offer yet, and we need to work on that. Once we have gone through those cohorts - . And we are still chasing those who haven't received the first dose; what's been positive is that we have seen more people coming forward for their first and second dose during this booster campaign, so that's been a help too. We will be continuing to look at this issue, because, if people aren't protected, then it's more likely to have an impact on the NHS, so we have a responsibility, all of us, as residents of Wales, to protect the NHS and to understand our own responsibilities. So, certainly, we will be continuing to look at COVID passes, as you suggested, and we will be considering whether we need to demonstrate or exhibit the booster on the pass.
Welsh: Diolch. Yn sicr, beth dŷn ni'n ei wneud ar hyn o bryd yw jest i ganolbwyntio ar y pethau hawdd i wneud, ac rŷn ni'n dal gyda phroses eithaf pell i fynd o ran brechu, achos mae lot o bobl sydd heb gael y booster, yn arbennig yn yr oedran yna 20 i 40, ac mae hwnna yn cyferbynnu â faint o bobl oedd yn dioddef o omicron, felly dŷn nhw ddim yn gallu cael y brechlyn o fewn 28 diwrnod, so efallai bydd hi tamaid bach yn hirach - felly bydd y rhaglen yn gorfod mynd yn hirach nag oedden ni'n gobeithio, efallai. Ond mae hefyd gyda ni lot mwy o boosters i'w gwneud. Mae gyda ni boosters ar gyfer 16 and 17-year-olds, mae gyda ni 12 to 15-year-olds at risk, mae gyda ni ail ddos i 12 to 18-year-olds, mae gyda ni dos cyntaf sydd i ddechrau ar gyfer plant pump i 11 oed clinically at risk. So, mae ffordd bell gyda ni i fynd gyda'r bobl nad ydynt wedi cael y cynnig yna eto, ac mae'n rhaid inni weithio ar hynny. Unwaith rŷn ni wedi mynd trwy hynny - . Ac rŷn ni yn dal i fod, trwy'r amser, yn rhedeg ar ôl rheini sydd ddim wedi cael y brechiad cyntaf; beth sydd wedi bod yn bositif yw dŷn ni wedi gweld lot mwy o bobl yn dod ymlaen am eu dos cyntaf a'u hail ddos yn ystod y cyfnod booster yma, so mae hwnna wedi bod yn help. Mi fyddwn ni'n cario ymlaen i edrych ar hwn, achos os nad yw pobl yn cael eu diogelu, mae'n fwy tebygol o gael effaith ar yr NHS, felly mae cyfrifoldeb gyda ni i gyd fel trigolion i ofalu am yr NHS a deall ein cyfrifoldeb ni. Felly, yn sicr, fe fyddwn ni'n dal i edrych ar COVID passes, ac, wrth gwrs, rŷn ni'n ystyried os y bydd angen dangos y booster nawr ar y COVID pass yna.
English: Thank you very much and good afternoon to all of you. I'll ask a question first of all, if I may -
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn a phrynhawn da i chi gyd. Fe wnaf i ofyn cwestiwn yn gyntaf, os caf i, i -
English: No problem at all. Can you hear me now?
Welsh: Dim problem. Ydych chi'n fy nghlywed i erbyn hyn?
English: Thank you very much. Just a question first of all to the Royal College of Surgeons. In your report, which is before me on the screen and was published during the pandemic, you set as recommendation 2 to the Welsh Government to make it a priority immediately to ensure that health boards considered what measures could be put in place to support patients as they await treatment and surgery. Did the Welsh Government respond to that, very simply?
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn. Jest eisiau gofyn cwestiwn yn gyntaf i Goleg Brenhinol y Llawfeddygon. Yn eich adroddiad chi, sydd o'm mlaen i ar y sgrin yn fan hyn ac a gafodd ei gyhoeddi yn ystod y pandemig, fe ofynasoch chi fel argymhelliad 2 i Lywodraeth Cymru i'w gwneud hi'n flaenoriaeth yn syth i sicrhau bod byrddau iechyd yn ystyried pa fesurau a all gael eu rhoi mewn lle i gefnogi cleifion tra eu bod nhw'n aros am lawdriniaeth. A wnaeth Llywodraeth Cymru ymateb i hynny, yn syml iawn?
English: Good morning, welcome and a happy new year to you all. I'm pleased to see you all here in our first Finance Committee meeting of the year. I'm just going to read this. This meeting is being broadcast live on Senedd.tv, and the Record of Proceedings will be published as usual. Aside from the procedural adaptations relating to conducting proceedings remotely, all other Standing Order requirements for committee remain in place. Does any Member have any interests to declare? Peter.
Welsh: Bore da, croeso, a blwyddyn newydd dda i chi i gyd. Mae'n dda bod yma ym Mhwyllgor Cyllid cyntaf y flwyddyn fel hyn. Dwi jest yn mynd i ddarllen hwn. Mae'r cyfarfod hwn yn cael ei ddarlledu'n fyw ar Senedd.tv, a bydd cofnod o'r trafodion yn cael ei gyhoeddi yn ôl yr arfer. Ar wahân i'r addasiad gweithdrefnol sydd yn ymwneud â chynnal trafodion o bell, mae'r holl ofynion eraill o ran Rheolau Sefydlog ar gyfer y pwyllgor yn aros yn eu lle. Oes gan unrhyw un unrhyw fuddiannau i'w nodi? Peter.
English: Thank you very much for your time this morning.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn am eich amser y bore yma.
English: Welcome back, and welcome to the three of you joining us this morning. It's great to see you here this morning. Would you be able to state your names and your roles for the record? And if we started with Cian.
Welsh: Croeso nôl, a chroeso i chi'ch tri am ymuno â ni. Da eich gweld chi y bore yma. Fyddech chi'n gallu dweud pwy ydych chi ac eich rolau chi? Os ydym ni'n cychwyn efo Cian.
English: I'm Cian Sion. I'm a research assistant on the Welsh Fiscal Analysis programme at Cardiff University.
Welsh: Cian Sion ydw i. Dwi'n gynorthwyydd ymchwil ar raglen Dadansoddi Cyllid Cymru, Prifysgol Caerdydd.
English: Good morning, Chair. I'm Ed Gareth Poole, senior lecturer at Cardiff University and academic lead of Wales Fiscal Analysis, which is the project that's relevant to today.
Welsh: Bore da, Cadeirydd. Ed Gareth Poole ydw i, uwch ddarlithydd ym Mhrifysgol Caerdydd, ac arweinydd academaidd Dadansoddi Cyllid Cymru, wrth gwrs, y prosiect sy'n berthnasol heddiw.
English: Thank you very much. Great. And David. Could we unmute David? There we go, great.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr. Gwych. A David. Gawn ni ddad-fudo David? Dyna fo, grêt.
English: Thank you very much, and thank you for joining us this morning to assist the committee with its work.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr, a diolch ichi i gyd am ddod y bore yma i gynorthwyo'r pwyllgor yma â'i waith.
English: Thank you very much to the three of you for joining us this morning. It has been very interesting to see your take on the budget and to understand more about the information that's in it and your opinion on different issues. So, thank you on behalf of the committee for joining us and we'll take a short break now. We'll be back at 11:35.
Welsh: Diolch yn fawr iawn i'r tri ohonoch chi am ddod atom ni y bore yma. Mae wedi bod yn ddiddorol iawn gweld eich take chi ar y gyllideb ac i ddallt mwy ynglŷn â'r wybodaeth sydd ynddi a'ch barn chi ynglŷn â gwahanol bethau. Felly, diolch yn fawr i chi ar ran y pwyllgor am ddod. Mi wnawn ni gymryd toriad byr rŵan ac mi fyddwn ni nôl am 11:35.
English: A warm welcome back to the meeting, and it's excellent to be with you here and for you to rejoin us again. And I offer a warm welcome to the three of you to this meeting. Would you be able to introduce yourselves and state your names and roles for the record, please? I'll start with Huw.
Welsh: Croeso cynnes yn ôl i'r cyfarfod, ac mae'n braf bod yma gyda chi ac ichi ddod yn ôl atom ni rŵan. A chroeso cynnes i'r tri ohonoch chi i'r cyfarfod yma. Fyddech chi'n gallu cyflwyno eich hunain a beth ydy'ch swyddogaeth chi, os gwelwch yn dda? Cychwyn efo Huw.
English: Thank you very much to you all for a very interesting session this morning, and thank you for giving your time to us, and thank you for letting us go over time a little as well. That was very beneficial for us. And I thank my fellow Members for asking such good questions.
Welsh: Wel, diolch yn fawr iawn, iawn ichi am sesiwn hynod o ddiddorol a difyr y bore yma, a diolch ichi am roi eich amser a diolch ichi am adael inni fynd dros yr amser ychydig bach, hefyd. Mae hynny'n fuddiol iawn i ni. A diolch i fy nghyd-Aelodau am ofyn cwestiynau mor dda.
English: And so, in accordance with Standing Order 17.42, I propose that the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting. Are Members content? Excellent. We'll go into private session, therefore.
Welsh: Felly, dwi rŵan, yn unol â Rheol Sefydlog 17.42, yn cynnig bod y pwyllgor yn penderfynu gwahardd y cyhoedd o weddill y cyfarfod hwn. Ydy pawb yn hapus efo hynny? Ie. Gwych. Dyna ni. Awn ni'n breifat, felly.
English: Welcome to this Plenary session. Before we begin, I want to set out a few points. A Plenary meeting held by video-conference, in accordance with the Standing Orders of the Welsh Parliament, constitutes Senedd proceedings for the purposes of the Government of Wales Act 2006. Some of the provisions of Standing Order 34 will apply for today's Plenary meeting, and these are noted on your agenda. And I would remind Members that Standing Orders relating to order in Plenary meetings apply to this meeting.
Welsh: Croeso, bawb, i'r Cyfarfod Llawn. Cyn inni ddechrau'r cyfarfod yma o'r Senedd, dwi angen nodi ychydig o bwyntiau. Mae Cyfarfod Llawn a gynhelir drwy gynhadledd fideo, yn unol â Rheolau Sefydlog Senedd Cymru, yn gyfystyr â thrafodion y Senedd at ddibenion Deddf Llywodraeth Cymru 2006. Bydd rhai o ddarpariaethau Rheol Sefydlog 34 yn gymwys ar gyfer y cyfarfod yma heddiw, ac mae'r rheini wedi eu nodi ar eich agenda chi. A dwi eisiau atgoffa'r Aelodau fod y Rheolau Sefydlog sy'n ymwneud â threfn yn y Cyfarfod Llawn yn berthnasol i'r cyfarfod yma.
English: The first item is questions to the First Minister, and the first question is from Joel James.
Welsh: Yr eitem gyntaf, felly, yw'r cwestiynau i'r Prif Weinidog, ac mae'r cwestiwn cyntaf gan Joel James.
English: Llywydd, in our assessment, the positive gains of the active travel action plan far outweigh any negative repercussions. It's a requirement of the Active Travel (Wales) Act 2013 that it be reviewed by the end of 2022. That review will identify any implementation issues that need to be addressed.
Welsh: Llywydd, yn ein hasesiad ni, mae enillion cadarnhaol y cynllun gweithredu teithio llesol yn llawer mwy nag unrhyw sgil-effeithiau negyddol. Mae'n un o ofynion Deddf Teithio Llesol (Cymru) 2013 ei fod yn cael ei adolygu erbyn diwedd 2022. Bydd yr adolygiad hwnnw yn nodi unrhyw faterion gweithredu y mae angen mynd i'r afael â nhw.