input: Project Manager: G good morning .
  User Interface: Good morning , Flores . Marketing Expert .
  Project Manager: Oh yeah .
  User Interface: Right .
  Project Manager: Are you ready ? You should put the laptop uh right into the square .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: For i for the cameras , yes .
  User Interface: For the cameras Alright .
  Project Manager: Good morning , Sebastian .
  Industrial Designer: Good morning , {vocalsound} Mister P_M_ .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {gap} {disfmarker} I'm fine .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} How are you today ? How was your business trip to Boston ? {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um well , actually I didn't go , didn't feel like it .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Geez .
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker} Do you want to open it as read-only .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um I guess I should close it here .
  User Interface: You have the same message of uh Windows cannot um
  Marketing: {gap}
  User Interface: sen oh stand-by . Close the the window .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay .
  Project Manager: Okay , the waiting is for our Marketing Expert , Ruud .
  User Interface: So {disfmarker} That's right . Ruud .
  Project Manager: Um project kick-off .
  Industrial Designer: Is there a schedule for this meeting ?
  Project Manager: Yes , there is actually . Um I will li list the agenda for today . For this meeting . Good morning , Ruud .
  Marketing: Good morning . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh it's important um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I shall close the door .
  Project Manager: yeah , great . It's important that the laptops are um exactly on the square , um for the cameras . Okay . Okay . Um we're here to develop uh a new product .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um I'm sure you've had a mail from our account manager about it .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} and um this is the first meeting to to generate some uh uh some ideas about it . Um you are here in a specific role . Uh Ruud is here as the Marketing Expert , Roo is here as the User Interface Designer and Sebastian is here uh in the role of Industrial Designer . Is that correct ?
  Industrial Designer: That's correct .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} we're going to do um uh uh a little tool training uh for the tools we are going to use uh during uh the meetings we are going to have here . Um then I will tell you a little bit about my idea of the project plan , uh and we will have a discussion . Uh this meeting should take no more than twenty five minutes , so we should keep that in mind .
  User Interface: Alright .
  Industrial Designer: Okay . Um is there any room for a little presentation ? Uh maybe during the discussion uh section ?
  Project Manager: There is ? Yeah , there is .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} No problem .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um okay , this new product we are are g are going to develop , um it's a remote control , a television remote control . Um and first of all it should be original , it should be trendy and user-friendly . Those are kind of easy um uh uh goals , um and I'm sure we can find more goals for the for the product we are going to develop . {vocalsound} Um we will discuss uh later on more ideas about uh how the remote should look and how it sh it should function and all those kind of things .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Project Manager: The market , we should have a look at the market . Um {vocalsound} we are going to use a a pred a project method uh during uh this development , um which consists of three different design stages . Uh the functional design , the conceptual design and the detailed design , um all of these stages um um mean that we do some individual work , prepare , and then uh meet to discuss our uh uh the {gap} {disfmarker} the the progressions , yes .
  User Interface: Progressions . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um the first stage , the functional design um we are going to search for the user requirements , and we will um make a specific {disfmarker} uh specification of that . Um {vocalsound} the second is the technical functional design , um what effect should the remote have ? Well in this case control t the the television I think .
  User Interface: It's for the vision . Yeah .
  Project Manager: Um and the last one is the working design . How exactly does it work in the technical sense . Um the other design stages , uh we will discuss that later . So we'll kop it {disfmarker} keep it with the functional design . {vocalsound} Okay , um before we think about remote control we will um work with some of the tools we have uh here . Um as you see now I can give a presentation . {vocalsound} Um it's also possible to use this one as well . You can uh uh display pr uh two presentations if you want to . Um {vocalsound} to um presentate , to show us uh a file you'll need to uh place it in your project documents folder , which is on your desktop , at least it should be . Um then we have this electronic white-board system . {vocalsound} Um yeah , I will show that now . Um you can draw on the board using this pen . There are little um uh
  User Interface: Sensors .
  Project Manager: sensors , so do not grab it here , but a lit more a little bit more to the uh to the end . Um well , it {disfmarker} it's on the um eraser now , so we click the pen button . Okay , so not too fast writing . Um {vocalsound} you can insert a new um slide or or white-board uh uh file um by either using the insert function or by clicking the next button or the blank button . It's quite the same . Um all our um whi um uh SMARTboard um notes should be kept in the same file . So do not m make a new file . Just use this one uh during the day . {vocalsound} Um you can use the eraser to make something go away .
  User Interface: But we all use the same white-board file
  Project Manager: Yes .
  User Interface: So we can work together on it while we're {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: or should we only use it in the in the meetings ?
  Project Manager: Yeah , in the meetings , only in the meetings .
  User Interface: Yeah , okay .
  Project Manager: It's really like like a regu regular whiteboard .
  User Interface: Yeah , alright . Yep .
  Project Manager: Um you can choose the format , um {disfmarker} sorry . Uh {disfmarker} Let me see . Um {disfmarker} Well {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I guess it's maybe because I'm not s uh pen selected . Yep . Current colour , you can choose another colour . And um for example black , and you c I can choose the line width . Um so now I d have a different line width and uh colour . Okay . Quite easy , if you uh do have any questions , just c ask me . Um {vocalsound} to um {disfmarker} oh well , I'm {disfmarker} I wrote down the documents uh should be in the project documents folder if you want to uh discuss it with us . Um as a little training {vocalsound} um I will ask Ruud first to draw uh uh your own animal on a new slide uh with uh a different colour and a different line width than the one uh now selected . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Okay . Um green .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: An animal . Okay . Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Uh a wee rabbit .
  User Interface: It's a bunny . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: A rabbit . Okay , well great .
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um Roo , could you do the same please ? But a different animal with a different colour and a different line width .
  User Interface: But of course , Flores .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Blank .
  Project Manager: Sebastian is thinking about the animal .
  Industrial Designer: I'm just uh guessing what should be my favourite animal . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: Yeah , I'm think about it too . {vocalsound} Format {gap} . Well , it looked more than a bunny than a cat , but {vocalsound} it works ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Well , I'll give it a try . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: It it should be a cat .
  User Interface: right ?
  Project Manager: Okay ?
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Mm .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} I'm guessing a horse .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Very good . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: With a very small {vocalsound} legs . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I was very good in drawing . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: You should feed that uh that animal . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Well , I guess you uh get the idea . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yes , okay . {vocalsound} Beautiful .
  Industrial Designer: Beautiful .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay , so um you can use this at any time during the presentation if you want to . Um any questions {disfmarker} well , just just let me know . Um okay , back to our project . Um {vocalsound} the remote control we are going to develop um will have a selling price of about twenty five Euros . Uh the profit we are looking for for this product is fifty million Euros , which is quite a number . {vocalsound} Um
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: we uh we will focus this internationally , so the product will be sold um , if there is market uh interest , uh in in more than one country . And um the production costs should not be more than uh twelve Euro fifty , so we should keep that in mind by uh w w during the development , {vocalsound} um because uh , well , those are important numbers . Um then the discussion , maybe the time for Sebastian to show his presentation .
  Industrial Designer: Yes , um I have some technical uh issues which I would like to present to you uh before we start the discussion , because uh there might be some uh
  Project Manager: Limitations .
  Industrial Designer: influations influences .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Project Manager: Okay , great .
  Industrial Designer: Okay ? {vocalsound} Okay . Um first about my role , role of the Industrial Designer . I would like to think about uh the implementation of uh of things , and the technical possibilities and impossibilities . So if someone of you comes up with uh ideas , uh I'll try to translate them in technical functions , but uh there might be some impossibilities . So that's one . {vocalsound} Uh I also will propose some uh um uh some implementations for that , but {disfmarker} well , these are quite the same . Sorry about that . Um and I also will remind people of some new technical possibilities which are available and which might be interesting to implement in our product .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: I have some uh initial ideas about some things um which are maybe nice to take with you in the upcoming uh discussion . One thing about uh interopera operability . Um I think a modern uh remote control should uh control a device {disfmarker} diverse subset of equipment . Uh for instance , uh D_V_D_ players , cell phones , video and audio equipment . So one re uh one remote control for all your equipment .
  User Interface: And for a cell phone ?
  Industrial Designer: Well , there should be some interoperabi interoperability between them .
  User Interface: Yeah , okay . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I think it could come in handy . We should discuss that . Um and we should think about the way how these things uh should communicate with each other . We're not uh living in the uh nineteen eighties anymore , so infrared is not uh
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: is not really uh hot uh technical stuff anymore . But you should uh think about the things like uh Bluetooth .
  User Interface: But {disfmarker} Yeah , but the infrared , it's uh , well , a little bit old-fashioned , if you would call it like that .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  User Interface: But all the T_V_s are uh equipped with infrared , so
  Industrial Designer: But it's cost-effective . Yes . Mm-hmm . Well , not all , not all .
  User Interface: y you you can {disfmarker} Most of them .
  Industrial Designer: So that's the point .
  User Interface: Or you shou sh use a {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: you should equip infrared and Bluetooth together in one remote .
  Industrial Designer: Maybe , but that's uh something we should discuss
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: and uh about every everybody should think about it . So that's just my role , I'll just uh give you uh everybody some technical input , and I think now the time is to have a little discussion about what uh the product should be and how it should look ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: but take these things into account when you start the discussion .
  Project Manager: Okay , so the the main por uh the main points you are uh telling us are focus on the inter uh operability ,
  Industrial Designer: Yes ,
  Project Manager: and {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: so one thing uh one remote control should uh control one or more uh pieces of equipment ,
  Project Manager: Okay , and and uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: and the way of communicating with these equipments .
  Project Manager: Okay . Okay , good .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} that was your presentation ? Okay , okay .
  Industrial Designer: That's it .
  Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} okay . Great . Um {vocalsound} I'll go back to my own presentation . Um {disfmarker} Mm . Okay . Um I I do think it's time now to to discuss uh mm some things .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um Sebastian told us a few things about the technical implemen uh implications . Um there are other things like um {vocalsound} how to make it trendy , which is I think uh um most uh Ru uh Ruud's uh role . Um the way how it should be controlled by the user , which is uh Roo uh r uh during this part . Um so let's start with you .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: H how do you think the remote should um function for the user ?
  User Interface: Well , I had a few uh things in mind . Um well , the interoperability , just like uh Sebastian said , um the remote should work on different T_V_s or even different uh um {disfmarker} Yeah uh , what is it , devices ?
  Project Manager: Yep .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Um so i i I think it's a universal remote control for customers to buy just new in uh a store .
  Industrial Designer: Yes , I think it should be something like that .
  User Interface: It's not for uh for uh for uh Philips or whatever to buy our remote for their own product ,
  Project Manager: Okay , so we're we're going business to consumer ,
  User Interface: right ?
  Project Manager: not {disfmarker} we're we're {disfmarker} it's not a {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , I do I don't know that . It's no I have uh {disfmarker} don't have the information for it .
  Industrial Designer: We're not developing this product for a specific vendor , are we ?
  Project Manager: No . No .
  Industrial Designer: No ,
  User Interface: No , okay .
  Industrial Designer: we're just developing this product , and we want to sell it to a very broad uh public , so it should fit to every device .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh Ruud , y do you agree ?
  Marketing: Yeah , I think I think they're right , yeah .
  Project Manager: Okay . Okay .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker} Well , the techni fu technical function uh {gap} {disfmarker} what you said is just by pressing the button you should change the state of the T_V_ . That's just the basic f technical function .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: So that was my {disfmarker} really my part for uh this session . Um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So is that ease of use or uh is that more like um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well , that's just the fu the technical function is {vocalsound} pure what should the remote control do , wh what is his task uh as an uh as an uh device .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  User Interface: It just should change the T_V_'s state .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: So that's it . Um but furthermore {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: And you you see uh the buttons as a as a means of doing this ?
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah , with buttons .
  Industrial Designer: Or are there any o other controls ?
  User Interface: Yeah , or maybe you want a touch-screen or {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Are there only {disfmarker} any other cont Well , {vocalsound}
  User Interface: But {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I I've seen these remote controls with uh this little stick uh which you can move forward , sidewords .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh-huh .
  Industrial Designer: You know these things . And um it's very easy for a user to to switch {disfmarker}
  User Interface: They're very vu vulnerable .
  Industrial Designer: w yes ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: to to switch b uh between uh channels or uh change uh between tracks on a on a C_D_ , on on a chapters , you know , on a D_V_D_ player . So maybe that's an idea ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I don't know .
  User Interface: And for other user interface I had um , well , it's more industrial thing . Uh point at a T_V_ , I think it's it's quite disturbing when you always have to point directly to the T_V_ ,
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  User Interface: so you must {vocalsound} point everywhere , so maybe infrared is {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: Maybe not even pointed . Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah , just don't even point it , so in that case infrared should uh maybe uh be restriction to that .
  Project Manager: Okay
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: {disfmarker} Uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Uh is that uh {disfmarker} are there restriction for the range , the operating range too ? So when you're not able to point at the device um the range is very limited .
  User Interface: Yeah , if you g if you go to radio or or {disfmarker} yeah . For T_V_ , you're always in in the neighbourhood of a T_V_ , so I don't think think the range should be a problem to that ,
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  User Interface: but if you want to uh get it working with a radio , and you're in {disfmarker} outside your garden with just one uh speaker , then maybe the range should be uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: Okay , gentlemen , um uh just a reminder , we d we have five minutes left for this meeting
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  User Interface: But {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: um {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Two more things .
  Project Manager: okay .
  User Interface: Um You should able to feel the buttons without uh it mis um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} you have to know what you do without looking at the buttons , so it should be as user interface um for feeling should be uh good to understand .
  Project Manager: Okay , s yeah .
  User Interface: You must feel the buttons for volume or whatever , I think .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: And of course you don't always know where all buttons are , so it should be visible al um {vocalsound} in dark too .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: So when it's dark {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Those are two really uh user interface {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Uh I'll write down glow in the dark . Is tha {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah . {gap} {disfmarker} That's perfect . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: Okay , um uh I just want to hear uh Ruud's um input for this meeting .
  Industrial Designer: Do do you {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Um do you have anything already w um ab idea about how the market uh will respond to the {disfmarker} such a product ? Or what we should take um in account when developing such a product ?
  Marketing: Uh I think most most things have already been said , like uh control multiple devices .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: And uh , yeah , infrared might be an issue .
  Project Manager: Because ?
  Marketing: Uh well , he said about n abo what he said about pointing .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: But uh lots of devices already use infrared . So {disfmarker} we'll probably have to implement that .
  Project Manager: Okay . Okay . Okay , Sebastian , did you have any other ideas ?
  Industrial Designer: Um well yes , I had , uh about three minutes ago ,
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: but I've seem to forget them {disfmarker} {vocalsound} forgot them . Um {disfmarker} oh yes , I remember . Um you said something about visibility in the dark .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Um uh would it be nice for a user to have display on this uh remote control , on which you can see functions ? Which makes it easier to operate it .
  User Interface: Yeah . Well , maybe I um {disfmarker} but it it can be quite simple ,
  Industrial Designer: I I don't know .
  User Interface: you can just have white buttons with a black mark on it .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . Okay .
  User Interface: The uh the the digits in black .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  User Interface: Uh then it's already visible in dark . So it it don't have to be a lightning or or a fancy
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {disfmarker} well , it can be for design , of course .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: Yeah , yeah , okay , because because we wa we want to develop a trendy product . So {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yes , but there's a cost limitation too .
  Project Manager: Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: Well , that's more {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: twelve Euro fifty , yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: So that's a big problem , I think . I think the the financial part of this project uh implicates that it's not going to be a high high-end product .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: The cost price is very low .
  User Interface: Just remind something .
  Industrial Designer: Um {disfmarker}
  User Interface: The digits of uh the the painting on the buttons should not fade .
  Project Manager: Okay , okay .
  User Interface: You have a m uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Okay . Very good point . Yeah .
  User Interface: Always have s the soft buttons , always uh clear the the the paint on it . The marks .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: Okay , um I ha I have one point f um which which comes in mind now . Um uh d I think the device should either be rechargeable very easily
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . Okay .
  Project Manager: um or it should not consume too much um power . Because it's very annoying if you need to change the batteries every s uh uh every other week .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} So um maybe we could um for example uh only light the buttons that are um uh applicable at that moment or {disfmarker}
  User Interface: But um {disfmarker} Necessary , yeah .
  Project Manager: yeah . I dunno , it's uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} that's more Sebastian's uh um {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah . But then Bluetooth uh might be problem .
  Industrial Designer: Hmm .
  User Interface: 'Cause I think Bluetooth uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} It's use uh a lot of uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well does it ?
  User Interface: Yeah , I know it from the cell phone .
  Industrial Designer: well {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: I'm not sure . Uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Well , cell phones have uh integrated Bluetooth also and , well , it's {disfmarker} it seems to work uh quite okay .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: So uh technically it will be possible .
  User Interface: But you can't you can't use Bluetooth all the time , twenty four hours a day .
  Project Manager: Okay . Gentlemen , I'm afraid we do not have any more time .
  User Interface: Does it {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: No , you cannot .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} It's over ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Okay .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} so we will go back to our own uh work . Um next meeting starts in thirty minutes and um , well , you know your o your individual actions or your personal coach will probably email you about th it . Um so this was it .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Project Manager: See you in thirty minutes .
  User Interface: Great .
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