input: Project Manager: If you leave them on the whole time you get to look like a noodle the whole time .
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Marketing: Is that someone's ?
  Project Manager: Is that {gap} .
  User Interface: Thank you .
  Project Manager: {gap} three , apparently .
  User Interface: Hmm . Hmm .
  Project Manager: Okay , you all switched on .
  Marketing: Okay .
  User Interface: Yep , me too .
  Project Manager: I presume we're good to go . Okay , um minutes um we decided to use a kinetic charger ,
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: standard chip , um 'cause it can come in various different sizes , it wasn't uh uh gonna be a problem factor . We wanted a stand-by function . The case material is gonna be soft , rubbery , changeable . Um buttons with a combination of L_C_D_ and rubber according to the design . Um bright funky designs inspired by fruit , keeping with the hip kind of feel . Um {vocalsound} and to try and incorporate voice recognition software into our design until we can find out more about the cost of things like that . Um {vocalsound} and the rubber buttons that we'll use will be anti-R_S_I_ . Okay ? Prototype presentation .
  Industrial Designer: Is that {gap} for us ?
  User Interface: Yep .
  Project Manager: I think that would be you .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  User Interface: Me and William worked on a prototype , and I think William is going to make a p presentation on that .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , shall I show ?
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I'll show . Though do you do you wanna do you wanna sh do you wanna hold it
  User Interface: I can hold it like {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Make sure the camera's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: and I'll I'll show you the presentation .
  User Interface: so {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Can I just nick your {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yes , yes you can . Wait a second , I'll get it out .
  User Interface: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: Whoa .
  User Interface: It looks
  Project Manager: Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Going a bit crazy over here .
  User Interface: crazy {gap} .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Thank you .
  User Interface: Um not now . Oh .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} You should have one of those things and you can just take it off .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Ta-da .
  User Interface: Oh , where are the hinges ? {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Okay , so
  Project Manager: Right .
  Industrial Designer: this is our look and feel presentation , the final {disfmarker} our final presentation .
  Project Manager: Mm 'kay .
  Industrial Designer: And we'll first look at the exterior of what we've uh come up with over there . Um
  User Interface: 'Kay . You able to look {gap} ?
  Industrial Designer: It's gonna have a a plastic body {vocalsound} um with a sort of standard colour , either we're thinking some something fairly neutral like a a white or a light blue or something .
  User Interface: Yep . {gap}
  Industrial Designer: This is underneath the rubberised the rubberised uh outer casing
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: um which there'd be sort of a wide choice {disfmarker} they would be attached , but we can we can come up with that .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Um the um wide choice of colours and sort of patterns , so you've got you've got a lot of customisation with it . Um {vocalsound} it's obviously an a sort of clam-shell design {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {gap} .
  Industrial Designer: and uh {vocalsound} the um the top L_C_D_ screen that you can see that would b would be sort of um {vocalsound} how do you say , it's {disfmarker} yeah yeah , it would be sort of inset into the into the top
  User Interface: The black and white touch screen wherein people can {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Mm . So it's flush .
  Industrial Designer: and the buttons at the bottom would d
  User Interface: Right .
  Industrial Designer: so so it'll fully close flat .
  Project Manager: Oh right , okay , yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah .
  User Interface: {gap} {gap}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And working on the inside we've um already said {disfmarker} d decided on the kinetic batteries , which {disfmarker} actually , thinking about it now , could y could also probably attach to the flipping open and shut as well , so that you could probably get a bit of {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So put it in the top section rather than the bottom sections ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: 'cause it's the top part that's {disfmarker} okay .
  Industrial Designer: Um we decided that um the voice recognition system , it did actually say on the email that they were sort of coming in {vocalsound} and they were fairly easy to get a-hold of , so we presumed that they'd also be quite cheap . So you'd have something like where you'd shout out , where where is the remote and it'll shout back , I'm here , or something .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Or something . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And then {disfmarker} yeah . It wo it won't shout out I'm here or something . It'll just shout out I'm here , or something to similar effect .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: 'Kay .
  Project Manager: I'm under the sofa .
  User Interface: Ah oka
  Project Manager: Or , that would be too complicated .
  Industrial Designer: Uh yeah , if it was going like I d well tha that could be something for next time , maybe . You can have a remote that tells you exactly where it is . Um the standard , there's {disfmarker} be a standard transmission with the T_V_ using using all the standard chips that we've talked about .
  Project Manager: Infrared {gap} .
  Industrial Designer: Um it would it would have {disfmarker} obviously 'cause it's split over two two different layers , it would need two separate P_C_B_s , so it would be joined at the hinge through some sort of cabling . {vocalsound} And uh because , obviously , all T_V_s use this , the same infrared medium , we'd just be using using the same thing to transmit the data . And the infrared um sender would be on the {disfmarker} on one of the bot the bottom layer , just at the front of the {disfmarker} we haven't {disfmarker} I don't think we actually put it on .
  Project Manager: Like here .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah , something like that .
  User Interface: Infrared could be here also . Yeah , here .
  Project Manager: Okay . Actually , no , it would be {disfmarker} it would have to be on the on the front .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , on the front on the front side of that , yeah .
  User Interface: {gap} . So when it's {disfmarker} even if it's open here , the signals would go {gap} .
  Project Manager: Oh right , yeah , okay , yeah , I've got you . It's still pointing ,
  Industrial Designer: So when you've actually got it open , it would be facing the T_V_ .
  Project Manager: yes .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah , that would make sense .
  Industrial Designer: And then finally um on to the interface . {vocalsound} The top screen , as we said , is {disfmarker} would be an inset um black and white L_C_D_ s touch screen
  User Interface: {gap} This one right here .
  Industrial Designer: which {disfmarker} yeah would uh have all of all of the the available functions for for the remote on it , uh whereas the bot the bottom screen would just contain the standard buttons , like the vo volume up and down , channel up and down , power on and off , and uh things to that effect .
  User Interface: {gap} .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: And now we've {disfmarker} we also decided on the inside , we could possibly either have um some some kind of sort of bezzled uh logo on it , or something inset , or maybe an engraving of the logo on the top .
  User Interface: Which is {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: But not interfering with the outside kind of look of the product
  Industrial Designer: No d not not actually . No , not uh interfering with l the whole look of the the product when it's uh on the thing .
  User Interface: No .
  Project Manager: once it's {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Look up to it .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: And finally that's how we put the fashion back into electronics ,
  Project Manager: Thank you very much .
  Industrial Designer: as that is {disfmarker} that's the company logo {gap} .
  User Interface: Yay .
  Project Manager: Wrapping it all up , okay .
  Marketing: Well done .
  Project Manager: Um I've now got evaluation criteria .
  Marketing: Certainly .
  User Interface: So this is the one . Sorry .
  Project Manager: It's to be presented {gap} .
  Industrial Designer: There you go . {gap} .
  Marketing: Logged in ? Thank you . Oops .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: Evaluation . {gap} .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Mm um I I think this is {gap} chip .
  Project Manager: It's quite similar to what it was before , though .
  Marketing: Okay .
  Project Manager: Sorry .
  Marketing: This stage of the evaluation is really for us as a team to evaluate if we have now got a product specification and prototype design that meets the the criteria that we got from our market research . {vocalsound} So this is the first stage of the evaluation . Now , the collection of the criteria , as we saw in our previous meeting , was based on the user requirements and trends found in the marketing reports and marketing strategy of our company . So it's what we've discussed in the last meeting , are we actually meeting those trends and requirements ? Now the findings that we came up with , just a recap , are here . The criteria that we want in this remote control are a fancy look and feel , technological innovation , it should be easy to use , it should incorporate current fashion trends , and those {disfmarker} the two main ones , they were the spongy texture and the fruit and vegetable strong design colours .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} The design should minimise R_S_I_ and be easy to locate and we were still um uh slightly ambivalent as to whether to use voice recognition there , though that did seem to be the favoured strategy , but there was also , on the sideline , the though of maybe having a beeper function . {vocalsound} Okay , so we can come back to that slide , if you don't have a note of those . I'll just show you how we're going to evaluate our own feedback to this , to what we have so far . We're going to use a seven point scale , where one is true and seven is false . We look at each of those criteria that I've just mentioned , I'll call that slide back up ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: and I will just do a preliminary rating of all those criteria on the whiteboard here .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: Does that seem clear ? Any questions there ?
  User Interface: Ah , it's perfect .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: we're going to look at these crite So
  User Interface: Is it everybody is going to evaluate , or just the Market {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yes ,
  User Interface: okay .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: we're going to come to {disfmarker} w we'll discuss each one
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: and we'll come to a consensus rating between one and seven .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Marketing: Is that okay ?
  User Interface: 'Kay .
  Marketing: One is true , seven is false . Right . So I won't write all of that out again . It will just be criteria one , two , three , four , five , six , or A_ , B_ , C_ , D_ , E_ , F_ to confuse it with the number rating . B_ , C_ , D_ , E_ , F_ . {vocalsound} This is where I realise how tiny I actually am . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Just write small .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Criteria and rating . Actually , it might be an idea , if we each did give our own individual rating , and we could take an average at the end . How about that ?
  User Interface: Yeah , so you can {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah . That works .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , okay .
  Marketing: Okay . So I'll just separate the ratings by obliques , and if we go one , two , three , four , we know who's who .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: Okay . Criteria A_ , the fancy look and feel . How do we feel about this prototype model relating to fancy {disfmarker} it is a fancy look and feel . One is true , seven is false . My own rating for that would be a two . One is true and seven is false .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} I would agree .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I'd uh yeah I'd probably put it uh {vocalsound} two {disfmarker} yeah ,
  Marketing: I'll just go this way .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: 'Kay .
  Industrial Designer: two or three .
  Marketing: Two .
  Industrial Designer: No , three . Three .
  Marketing: Okay .
  Project Manager: I would say two .
  Marketing: Two .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} I would say four .
  Marketing: A four , okay .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: Adding those up , we've got a six and a five , eleven divided by four is what ? Uh two and three quarters , it that right .
  User Interface: Almost three .
  Industrial Designer: Mm yeah .
  Marketing: Two and three quarters ?
  User Interface: I think yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah .
  Marketing: Okay . Two point seven five , there we go . {vocalsound} Okay , criteria B_ , criterion B_ , technologically innovative . I would give that a three .
  Industrial Designer: I'd give it a one .
  Marketing: Okay . Not that you're biased {vocalsound} in that it {disfmarker} the designer .
  Industrial Designer: No , no , not at all .
  Project Manager: A two .
  User Interface: Oh sorry , I I got it wrong . The first one rating , I'm sorry . Can you just make it two ? The first .
  Marketing: The average {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , I I just {gap} it the other way .
  Marketing: oh , for you ? You want your rating to be a two ? Is that what you're saying ?
  User Interface: Uh in {gap} Yep , I just got {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Okay .
  User Interface: {gap}
  Marketing: So , I'll work out the average for that again at the end . It's a very slightly altered {disfmarker} Okay ,
  User Interface: two point f
  Marketing: and we're just waiting for your rating
  Project Manager: It's just two point five for that one .
  Marketing: f
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: Two point five , okay . Losing one decimal place , that's okay .
  User Interface: One is a {gap} , seven is false , okay .
  Marketing: So what are you rating for this one , Paw ?
  User Interface: Two .
  Marketing: Two , okay . So that is eight . That brings it down to two ,
  Industrial Designer: Two .
  Marketing: nice and simple , yeah . Okay , ease of use . Easy to use ? Based on what you've said there , I would say a one , true .
  Industrial Designer: Two .
  Marketing: Two .
  Project Manager: I would say a two . I would say a two .
  Marketing: A two , okay .
  User Interface: Two .
  Marketing: Two . I should've said a two to make the arithmetic easy , shouldn't I ?
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} We'll just put almost two ,
  Project Manager: One point seven f five .
  Marketing: because I'm not gonna get into silly decimal places .
  Project Manager: Okay , mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: Okay . Or we {disfmarker} or if we want to really bring it down , we can do later . Um mm now we're looking at
  Industrial Designer: D_ .
  Marketing: it incorporates current fashion trends , now that's particularly in relation to our market research findings about the spongy texture to the exterior and the fruit and vegetable design colours .
  Industrial Designer: One . Yeah .
  Marketing: Right . So I'm just thinking , before I give it my rating , you were limited in the use of materials for your prototype here .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , that's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Is this actually going to be the colours that you would use ?
  Industrial Designer: No , no , the the base colour was um {vocalsound} white or or like or l sort of a light blue ,
  User Interface: White . With {disfmarker} for the plastic ? Uh blue .
  Industrial Designer: but the changeable fa faces would uh allow you to get any {disfmarker} basically any one of a number of colours that uh th it's full sort of customised .
  Marketing: Right .
  User Interface: Any {disfmarker}
  Marketing: So we could use any strong fruit and veg colours and that's what we're intending to do .
  User Interface: Right .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah , yeah
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker}
  Marketing: And the spongy feel is no problem with that .
  User Interface: Yeah , because you'll be having a {disfmarker} Because of the rubber case .
  Industrial Designer: No , no , 'cause th that's that's the the spongy feel would be in the rubber that you put round it , that {disfmarker} otherwise it's just sort of hard plastic .
  Marketing: Okay . In that case it's got to be a one for me .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I'll give it a one as well .
  Marketing: Yep .
  Project Manager: One .
  Marketing: Everybody ? Okay .
  User Interface: One .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} That part was nice and easy .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Okay . Uh moving on to does the design minimise repetitive strain injury .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: I don't think we've really touched on that a lot .
  Industrial Designer: No .
  Marketing: We've we've discussed it , we haven't really come up with anything that we felt could feasibly reduce that . We've talked about pointers , but the very use of a remote control , if you're someone who's zapping , who's sitting like that , and we found so many people did , how do you minimise that on such a small device ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Well the type of button that we're gonna use in the bottom half , the material , minimises R_S_I_
  Industrial Designer: It's meant to be .
  Marketing: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: it's meant to . Um
  Marketing: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: maybe because it's slightl
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Project Manager: with the size that we've got it's quite small ,
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Project Manager: but with the amount of stuff we're putting on it isn't that much .
  Marketing: Mm .
  Project Manager: So maybe because there's more space , it's not kind of moving around trying to hit accurately the buttons in between .
  Marketing: Mm-hmm . Right .
  Project Manager: It's quite obvious just big buttons . Um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Right . I think I'm gonna have to be neutral on that and give it a four .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah , I'd uh I'd f I'd go for a five , actually ,
  Marketing: A five , okay .
  Industrial Designer: 'cause {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Four .
  Marketing: Four and a four okay .
  User Interface: Four .
  Marketing: Twenty one {disfmarker} is that twenty one ?
  User Interface: {gap}
  Marketing: So that's four point two five .
  Industrial Designer: Yep .
  Marketing: And finally , last but not least , easy to locate . Now we talked about voice recognition , we talked about a beeper , have we really {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: have the designers come to any dec real decision on that ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , it was it was uh a voice voice recognition ,
  User Interface: Voice r recognition .
  Marketing: It was the I'm here thing ,
  Industrial Designer: yeah .
  Marketing: yep . And are we happy with the costs on that ? That is going to be feasible , cost-wise .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah , that {disfmarker} yeah , that's feasible .
  Marketing: That sounds good then . I'd go for a {disfmarker} I ca we can adjust the volume on that , just as we could volume on T_V_ . So if sombody's in the other room or if T_V_s in different rooms , or .
  Industrial Designer: Um I think it would r I think it would probably be a a stand it would be a stand
  Project Manager: A standard .
  Industrial Designer: it would be quite loud .
  Project Manager: It would be .
  Marketing: Right . Okay .
  Industrial Designer: So it would be s p
  Marketing: You built into the feature .
  Project Manager: And if you didn't hear it in the room that you were standing in , then you'd realise that it wasn't in that room , you'd go into another room .
  Industrial Designer: yeah .
  Marketing: Okay . Logical . That's a one for me .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , one .
  Marketing: One
  Project Manager: One .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: and one , good .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I do realise that we might be being fairly biased , 'cause it is our product ,
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} So ,
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: how do we feel about this ?
  Industrial Designer: {gap} {gap}
  Marketing: We've got our our {disfmarker} we've got the highest rating of meeting the specifications that is definitely true for two of the uh six criteria there . That is for um incorporates current fashion trends and is easy to locate . The lowest rating we've got , which is really n it's not terribly low , i it's close around neutral is for uh the minimisation of repetitive strain injury . {vocalsound} Do we feel on the basis of tha of these evaluation findings that we can go ahead and now produce this as a prototype and market it , or do we have to make further modifications ?
  Project Manager: I don't think so .
  Industrial Designer: W I thin yeah , I think {disfmarker}
  Marketing: We happy to go ahead ?
  Project Manager: I think we {disfmarker} yeah . I think we're set .
  Industrial Designer: yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . I think for most of those ratings that it's high enough at the upper end of the scale for us to go ahead with that , and I really doubt if on the basis of current technology and our current capabilities , we could actually do much more to minimise that .
  Project Manager: Do much apart from having a huge big {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: I know . Okay . Well , I hope that's uh clear to the team . Is there anything you would like to to ask me about the findings before I sum up ?
  Project Manager: Don't think so .
  Industrial Designer: No .
  Marketing: Good . Fine then . I'll just leave it there .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay , thank you .
  Marketing: Oops .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay ,
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Project Manager: I've got finance here now . I'm gonna plug this in so you can all see it , if that's okay . Um .
  Marketing: Oh yes .
  User Interface: You want me to b unplug that ?
  Industrial Designer: {gap} {gap}
  User Interface: That's all . Yes .
  Project Manager: Thanks . Right .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Project Manager: Now I presume that the screen will go blank ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: that um {disfmarker} Okay . We just type numbers into this and we come out with the final value . So are we still on for kinetic ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yes .
  Project Manager: Okay . See , it woulda been handy to have this at the beginning . Um it might have influenced our choice . Right , what's happening with the electronics ?
  Industrial Designer: It was a regular chip on print
  User Interface: Chip on print .
  Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Double-curved .
  Industrial Designer: Oh , no , no , no , the um {disfmarker} Yeah , it's {disfmarker} you you've put in three for the number of kinetic cells , there should just be one . In the top , it's the number
  Project Manager: Oh , right ,
  Industrial Designer: of c yeah {gap} .
  Project Manager: okay . Thanks .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
  Project Manager: So , would there be two ?
  Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker} yeah , just a {disfmarker} no , one reg v uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: One chip .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , one of them and one sample sensor and sample speaker .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: Yep .
  Industrial Designer: And they're double curved . No .
  User Interface: Single-curved .
  Project Manager: One double curve .
  Industrial Designer: Y Two ,
  User Interface: Two curves , yeah .
  Industrial Designer: 'cause it's two .
  Marketing: But it has a slightly flattened bottom so it can sit . So it can rest .
  Project Manager: So what's a single curve then ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I'd say I'd say it was w
  Marketing: It would just be a flat bottom with one curve . {gap} like a domed thing .
  Industrial Designer: yeah , I think I think it's {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Single-cu
  Project Manager: So just one double {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: One double-curved .
  Marketing: Mm .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Um {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {gap} .
  Industrial Designer: And one {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Plastic and rubber .
  Industrial Designer: no , 'cause one {disfmarker} yeah , one's double-curved , and then the other one's
  Marketing: The other curves at the sides , but it's slightly flattened at the bottom so it doesn't roll over . Yeah .
  Project Manager: Mm . {vocalsound} Um we've got plastic and rubber ,
  Industrial Designer: a plastic .
  Project Manager: haven't we ?
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: Plastic one and maybe rubber point five .
  Industrial Designer: And special colour .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap} .
  User Interface: No I think rubber , since it's being used just as a casing ,
  Project Manager: Um {disfmarker}
  User Interface: we can put point five .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Do you think ?
  User Interface: Yeah , I think it allows the point five , yeah . We can use that .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: What does it mean if you put point five for that ?
  User Interface: It means we are not using a lot of rubber actually . We're using just a very low quantity of rubber compared to plastic .
  Project Manager: It would be like saying we're using {disfmarker} See , it says case material . So
  Marketing: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: we're not actually using plastic in the case , are we ?
  Industrial Designer: No , no , that's {disfmarker} it's as an extra .
  Project Manager: It's including , it's including .
  Marketing: Right , okay .
  Industrial Designer: So that shouldn't that shouldn't be actually on there , because that's not incorporated in the cost of the remote you get .
  Marketing: But it is gonna be part of the total cost , and there's nowhere else we can we can put that in , is there ?
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: There's nowhere else we can code for the the rubber used in the casing . So do we not have to account for it in the cost somewhere there ?
  Project Manager: Okay , we'll just put it in as we'll put in as half .
  Marketing: Okay .
  Project Manager: Or sh we should just put it in as one , because the plastic is zero anyway .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , okay .
  Marketing: Mm .
  Project Manager: No , we don't step on anyone's toes . Okay , special colour , do we need that ?
  Marketing: Might do , if we go for some of the more exotic aubergines and such like colours .
  Project Manager: N yeah , okay . {vocalsound} Interface .
  User Interface: Push-button .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
  User Interface: One .
  Industrial Designer: the push-button's one and L_C_ display one .
  User Interface: An One .
  Project Manager: Buttons {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: And buttons {disfmarker}
  Marketing: S
  User Interface: {vocalsound} I think we could change the battery also . Instead of going for kinetic how about going for a standard battery .
  Marketing: Has that not made any d if you click off that square now , has that not made any difference ?
  Project Manager: Has that not gone up ?
  Industrial Designer: Well yes .
  Marketing: Is it {disfmarker} oh , it's brought it slightly down .
  Project Manager: Oh no , it was seven five it's changed not a lot .
  Marketing: So is is uncurved completely and just actually making the rubber case the curved thing ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: is that going to make a difference ?
  User Interface: Uncurved , flat .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Oh , it's not made any difference , has it? .
  User Interface: No ,
  Industrial Designer: No ,
  User Interface: it just surprises one .
  Industrial Designer: we'll have {disfmarker}
  Marketing: It's gone up again .
  Project Manager: Oh , it's not calculated it .
  Industrial Designer: No , no , you've got to click off to calculate it again .
  Marketing: Oh .
  Project Manager: Okay , there we go .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} It's brought it down slightly .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} It's not a lot though .
  User Interface: {gap} . {vocalsound} I don't think so .
  Industrial Designer: C it might uh you might you might be assuming that that is in Euros . It could be in Dollars . And then it would be fine , because the exchange range would make it about twelve .
  Project Manager: We haven't been dealin we haven't been dealing with dollars though ,
  Marketing: Is there anything on the menu {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: I think {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No .
  User Interface: Ri I think it's in Euro {gap} .
  Project Manager: Okay , so the highest we've got is the electronics here . Um {vocalsound} and the interface .
  Marketing: If we tr um . If we moved away from our much loved idea of a kinetic battery and just went with the standard batteries , would that make a huge difference ?
  User Interface: And going to a regular bat Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , the standard , it {vocalsound} um it would make one difference . The biggest one would be taking away {disfmarker} if you took away {disfmarker}
  User Interface: What I feel is , customers never said anything about the battery {gap} .
  Industrial Designer: If you to
  User Interface: It's internal , nobody looks into the battery .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: But shape and colours , that's something we shouldn't comprimi
  Marketing: And people are used to buying batteries ,
  Industrial Designer: If if you take away the voice ,
  Marketing: they're not gonna say I'm not getting this , 'cause I've got to buy a battery for a remote control .
  Industrial Designer: I I do I don't like to say it , but if you take away the voice recognition , then you've got it .
  User Interface: Where's that special form ? Mm mm mm .
  Marketing: Should we see what difference it makes ?
  Project Manager: Where's the
  Industrial Designer: Yeah i yeah .
  Project Manager: where's the voice recognition ?
  Industrial Designer: No 'cause it's samples sens sample speaker .
  Marketing: Um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Right , okay .
  Industrial Designer: If you took away that , that'll make it twelve point three five .
  Project Manager: Well the kinetic is three . If we change it to the battery it's {disfmarker} that's minus three .
  Industrial Designer: They {vocalsound} n n yeah , but you p minus three plus two .
  Project Manager: Oh , right . I keep seeing zero . Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} We can do it some other way ,
  User Interface: {gap}
  Project Manager: we can do {disfmarker} it doesn't have to be voice recognition . We could do the voice recognition for , you know , business class or something , you know , like an upgraded version .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: You could choose to have that or not .
  Marketing: Sure .
  Industrial Designer: But they {disfmarker} but I mean in {disfmarker} I don't see why we have to sell it for twenty five Euros now , because they w they were saying they were quite willing to pay more for better product .
  Marketing: But we're still working to um head o
  Project Manager: So should we just change the design specification then ? {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Make it costly .
  Marketing: We can put in our recommendations . If we if we're working to head office specifications as {disfmarker} this is what this project team's working for , we can put in our recommendations for what we've we've found and what we {disfmarker} the consensus that we've come to as a result of the meetings .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: We c we could s
  Marketing: But we need to work to that specification to start with .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , we could say {disfmarker}
  Marketing: And I think the voice recognition sounds wonderful , but our object is so distinctive that that in itself is gonna make it easier to locate as a f you know in a first instance . Um as you say , we can offer the voice recognition initially to business class customers
  Project Manager: Okay , we can make the price fit ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I s
  Project Manager: and then say if we'd had our budget , we would've had this ,
  Industrial Designer: And then say we recommend {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Mm .
  Project Manager: because it also sets it apart from the crowd .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . 'Cause we've done all the background work to go for that if they want it .
  Project Manager: They like their gadgets , they like something that's completely different .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: It's {vocalsound} s something completely different associated with your company .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Right , okay , so {disfmarker}
  Marketing: So if we take voice recognition out {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: That'll do it . Twelve point three five .
  User Interface: Yeah we are close to the budget .
  Marketing: {gap} we are .
  Industrial Designer: Is it twelve point fif was it twelve point fifty ?
  User Interface: Two five .
  Project Manager: It's two point five . No , it's twelve point two five .
  Marketing: Are you sure ? Sorry , not meaning to doubt your words there .
  Project Manager: Yeah well two , twelve point two five times two is twenty five ,
  Marketing: Right . {vocalsound} Are they really going to quibble about ten P_ ? Or point zero one of a Euro ?
  User Interface: It's twelve point five maybe , then .
  Project Manager: isn't it ?
  Marketing: Which is less than ten P_ .
  User Interface: I don't know what {disfmarker} it said fifty percent of the cost . So half of the price would be {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} I think the agenda one was where the um price was , wasn't it ? No .
  User Interface: I think it is the first one .
  Marketing: That's today's kick off meeting , {gap} .
  Project Manager: Twelve point five .
  Marketing: Mm . {gap} I thought that's what it was .
  User Interface: So we are under the budget .
  Project Manager: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: Ah .
  Project Manager: Well done , people .
  Marketing: So we're okay .
  Project Manager: So
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: is that uh got us covered for the electronics then ? We don't need something else to take that place ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . No .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: 'Cause that that was just a bought-on extra , you could just take that out and that would be fine , yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
  User Interface: Seems fine .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think that's brilliant .
  User Interface: Except voice recognition , everything is {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Right , so we've done that . Okay . Product evaluation . We've done room for creativity , haven't we ?
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Because we've got decisions that we would have made that we weren't {disfmarker} didn't feel able to make . Um
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: I presume we discussed leadership and teamwork .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: Yes . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: um in the sense that um did you feel like a team ? Or did you feel like {vocalsound} uh autonomy ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I'd say , as a team .
  User Interface: I think we had a nice time .
  Marketing: Although we had our separate tasks ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: there was so much interaction , so much that we needed to um bounce off each other .
  Industrial Designer: Find out from each other , yeah .
  Marketing: And I've certainly felt heard , listened to in that in relevant areas we've been able to , you know , give and take and adjust our remit where necessary .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah , I think there was uh very constructive feedback by everybody . It's not like people trying to cut each other . There is more of uh true cohesive teamwork . We came to a very predic creative design , yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah , and uh {disfmarker} Yeah , I think . And Sarah , you coordinated the work very well .
  Project Manager: Thank you . How did you find it ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , no , I thought it it went really well and I yeah , I I feel that everyone was listened to and all the points that were raised seem to have been sorted out , although we didn't quite make the voice recognition in there , but that's that's good .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I think it would have made it into the final product if it was actually {disfmarker} if if if we'd seen the marketing before the initial specification was put out , I think maybe it would've come out a d little different ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: but {disfmarker} yeah .
  Project Manager: I liked the fact that we could say an idea and it'd be suggested that that wasn't the best idea , but no one felt like shot down ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: you know , y it didn't matter it saying what you thought , because if it wasn't something that was that relevant , then it didn't matter , 'cause it was just another idea in the field . I like that . Um
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: teamwork . Well you two created that wonderful specimen of a Play-Doh model .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , well .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: I think that was the best part
  Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} uh I'm still not caught up .
  User Interface: of the {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {gap} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} But that's nothing to do with the teamwork at all . Um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: Maybe we should think of branching out into children's toys and fake mobile phones as a side line . And fake R_C_s .
  Project Manager: Maybe .
  User Interface: 'Kay .
  Project Manager: No , that was quite fun . Um {vocalsound} means , whiteboard , digital pens , etcetera , what does that mean ? Any ideas ?
  User Interface: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: {gap} Discuss which ones {disfmarker}
  Marketing: How do we evaluate the materials we had for communicating and sharing information ?
  Industrial Designer: yeah . Yeah .
  Marketing: Could it've been better , was it adequate ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think I think we probably woulda used the outer email system more , had we actually had had more time and if we'd been separated more .
  Project Manager: Had time to kind of {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Mm .
  Project Manager: Yeah , 'cause we could just sort of say , sorry what did you say about that or what do you think about that , rather than having to email it ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
  Project Manager: yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: But it was nice having it there . Um like the whole picture of the thing .
  User Interface: Yeah , {gap} moving around the room . {vocalsound} But I think it's good ,
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: like uh we spent times individually . I never thought of a remote control with a flip top . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah , I think it's new ideas in general ,
  Marketing: It's really borrowing from other areas , it's , you know , bringing things from other areas in ,
  Project Manager: rather than {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: it so it's {disfmarker} I mean nothing is new ,
  Project Manager: Mm .
  Marketing: but it's applying it to a d in a different area .
  Industrial Designer: Vegetables .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} That's mine .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah , no . Well
  User Interface: Yeah , it's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: they have to come from somewhere , don't they ?
  Marketing: Absolutely , yeah .
  User Interface: The thing is {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: And as sh as w sorry ,
  User Interface: Yep , sorry ,
  Project Manager: you go .
  User Interface: go on Sarah .
  Project Manager: Um as was shown by {vocalsound} your presentation with all of the other controls , remote controls , no one's thought about it particularly .
  Industrial Designer: No .
  Marketing: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: I mean they're slightly different , so if someone's been shut in the room and said make ours a bit different from everyone else's , 'cause it's w something we should think about ,
  Marketing: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: but obviously no one's put any great deal of thought into it .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , I do I don't think the the companies are really concerned . They're just like we've got a D_V_D_ player , does anyone remember the remote control ? Can't you get the one that we used for the last one ? Yeah , just jazz it up a bit .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: Uh d they don't really think about it ,
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: because normally , the remote control isn't the product which they're trying to ship . They're trying to ship the D_V_D_ player , the video player , the T_V_ .
  Marketing: Yeah , the focus isn't on to that , yeah .
  Project Manager: But then when it everything is really smart , and you've just got this big chunk of black thing sitting on your coffee table , it doesn't go ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
  Project Manager: I mean if you could have something that's a proper funky thing , a funky item that's individual , individual to you ,
  Industrial Designer: No .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: I mean they could even go into um you go in with an idea and they design it on Photoshop and then they just get it printed on the plastic , you would pray {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: you would pay a lot extra , because it's individually being {disfmarker} a plastic was being made for you .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: But people could {gap} have anything that they wanted .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  User Interface: Surprising to me is like uh people give a lot of attention to modifying mobile phones , like a real want to see a new launch or something like that .
  Project Manager: Because of the produ Mm .
  User Interface: And new f television products coming up ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: but nobody giving uh much idea to this . Like Sarah was telling , everything's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: I think it's really good that this has been very market research based ,
  User Interface: Right .
  Marketing: because {vocalsound} just going back to mobile phones , I mean this is the first change in remote control devices that I can really , you know , say is is obvious and visible . We see it in mobile phones a lot , and tha that's where we've borrowed a lot of our ide our ideas from . There are innovations in that that people don't really want .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} I see people wanting a model of the phone they were really happy with , and they can't get it anymore
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: and it's innovation for innovation's sake , and I think it's wonderful our company's so R_ and D_ based .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: Well , it's innovation for money's sake .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: The the people have to keep buying .
  Marketing: But forcing it onto people ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: yeah . It's things that , you know , they might want to buy the thing they really want .
  Project Manager: And you can't get {disfmarker} you've got your handset that works fine , but you can't get the battery anymore for that type of phone ,
  Marketing: Mm . Mm .
  Project Manager: because the phones have moved on , things like that .
  Marketing: Or there isn't a cover to fit it or whatever ,
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Marketing: yeah .
  Project Manager: It's madness . Um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: See I think {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: In closing {disfmarker} There we go .
  User Interface: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um {vocalsound} our costs are below budget with recommendations that they {disfmarker} the budget be increased , but I think {disfmarker} I don't know , d what do you think ? Do you think that's takes into account um overheads like us being well paid kind of a thing ? And the heating for the building , do you think our budget includes everything , all the costs that are going out ?
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Well .
  Marketing: I think it was just the produc uh just the production cost of the phone .
  Industrial Designer: I think that was just the the physical .
  Project Manager: So it looks {disfmarker} well it looks like it's gonna be fifty percent profit , you've still got all of the overheads to come out of that .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: So maybe increasing it , you would also have to increase the price that it's sold at .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: Maybe fifty percent more .
  Project Manager: But I think {disfmarker} but you were saying that that's quite {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think {disfmarker} yeah I don't {disfmarker} from the market research .
  Marketing: But I think in the remit that we were given , it was very specific . I think we've done what we were required to do ,
  Project Manager: Hmm .
  Marketing: and I think there'll have to be another project team or a new project for us to look at at those kind of things . I don't think that's something we have to look at and find a way of raising the cash for .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: No . Yeah , it was {disfmarker}
  Marketing: I think we've done very well to get within budget
  Project Manager: Mm .
  Marketing: and it still makes such an innovative item
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: that I think people are really gonna want .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: It's a shame it won't ever get made . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I know .
  User Interface: Who knows ?
  Project Manager: Maybe it will .
  Marketing: Maybe it will . Maybe they are gonna steal our ideas
  Project Manager: Maybe someone'll r run down and patent it .
  Industrial Designer: I it's top secret . Um it's it is it's a conspiracy going on here . That's what it is .
  Marketing: and sell it . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um the project has been evaluated well and truly .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Um and we've got the meeting survey and questionnaire .
  Marketing: Mm-hmm .
  User Interface: There's a final questionnaire .
  Project Manager: Oh , so we've got about fifty minutes to catch up with {vocalsound} {vocalsound} everything that I fell behind with ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} In your {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: so I'll be delegating in my um role as Project Supervisor ,
  Industrial Designer: yeah . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: so good luck .
  User Interface: Celebration , you didn't talk about that .
  Project Manager: I think the celebration is the twenty five pounds .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Either that or we'll be dancing on the desks .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Oh .
  Marketing: Questionnaire .
  Industrial Designer: Okay . Is that it then ?
  Project Manager: Um yeah , just the last , I think .
  Industrial Designer: Awesome .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} I think I've got minutes for two of the meeting and the last thingy .
  Marketing: Questionnaire done . Oh , I didn't have to rate you on how much you influenced the meeting this time .
  Industrial Designer: Was that not the questionnaire for the {disfmarker} how you felt you'd done in your thing ?
  Marketing: Oh , right .
  Industrial Designer: I don't think .
  Marketing: But do we not sometimes evaluate in these meetings too ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , the the s
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: yeah . I think {disfmarker} yeah , questionnaire seven was the one I did just before the meeting .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Project Manager: I just got con
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