input: Project Manager: {vocalsound} So let's start our second me meeting on {vocalsound} conceptual design .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So ,
  Marketing: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: as the previous meeting I will be the secretary
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: and we will have three presentations and we'll have to decide on the remote control concept and finally we'll close the decision . So I will first uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No y you do the minutes first , or ?
  Project Manager: What ?
  Marketing: No ?
  Project Manager: I I think I will let uh our User Interface Designer speak first , Mister David Jordan .
  Marketing: Okay .
  User Interface: Yep .
  Project Manager: So , we'll {disfmarker} S
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: technical accessoire ?
  User Interface: No no no .
  Project Manager: Interface ?
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: This .
  User Interface: Mm . So uh first I will present the concept of user interface . Um there's three concepts in the user interface . So first one it's a Google controller . The second is a fancy controller . The last one is uh intelligent controller . So there are three concepts in our controller . Um n next I will explain one by one , the first is Google controller . Um , so I want the controller to be easy to use , but with sophisticated functions . So it's a combination of easy to use and um sophisticated functions . Uh this is a first concept of our controller . The second concept is a fancy controller , um so we want give the customers the impression that our controller is very attractive , um they can easy recognise our controller among a lot of products , so so the u the user f the the u user interface should be very very cute , very very g um
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: A nice one .
  User Interface: attractive . Such like this , there are several uh examples in the slides .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} I'm not sure the one in the middle {vocalsound} is very attractive .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah , it's very , you know
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} It's very big ,
  User Interface: if you're {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: It's hard f i it's easy for you to remember it . {vocalsound} Or to recognise it ,
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Okay .
  User Interface: yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah , why not . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
  Project Manager: We'll have big discussion I suppose after that ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: so .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: Mm .
  User Interface: So the last uh concept is intelligent . We want uh we want our controller to be smart ,
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: Mm .
  User Interface: so maybe we should uh use um uh technology , such as speech recognition technology and gesture recognition technology , so we need to have coop some cooperation with some research institute on speech recognition and um gesture recognition . Um With this advanced features we {disfmarker} I think we can attract a lot of user .
  Project Manager: Okay . Something else ?
  User Interface: Okay . No . There {disfmarker} this is the three concepts of our controller .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: I just have one question , because for the intelligent controller , {vocalsound} you said that we can use the voice recognition or the gesture recognition ,
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
  Project Manager: but as the um expert told us , most of the people want to use the remote control to zap t to zap between channels . Do you think they will be able to use gestures ?
  User Interface: Yeah , so {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Because , if they do all the time the same gesture , as you said previously in the last meeting , maybe they will get injuries because of that ?
  User Interface: Y
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . Maybe .
  Project Manager: or if you say channel three channel three two three four six five , I think they will be bored after a while . You don't think so ?
  User Interface: Uh I think some time it's very uh convenient to use voice interface and gesture interface than use button .
  Project Manager: Yeah , sure .
  User Interface: For example , if you cannot find your uh {vocalsound} controller , you can just uh {vocalsound} just just uh speak something such as , yeah , one two .
  Project Manager: I
  Industrial Designer: Oh yeah , {vocalsound} that's a good {disfmarker} that's a good point , so .
  Project Manager: That's true . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: One and {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah , but suppose you got a cold . You have a mute remote controller .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Mm .
  User Interface: So you can use your gesture . That's no problem . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah but how how is {disfmarker} how risky is it to trust like speech recognition or gesture recognition ?
  Project Manager: Broken arm ?
  User Interface: For limited vocabulary speech recognition is very reliable and for s limited vocabulary gesture recognition is also very {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Okay . Okay .
  Project Manager: Yeah , but suppose you have a family watching T_V_ , and if they want to use their private remote control in the same time , do you think it will work ? Everybody wanting to change channel in the same time ?
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yep . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: But this this {disfmarker} but this would never happen anyway .
  Project Manager: Why ?
  User Interface: Yeah , they cannot speak at the same time .
  Project Manager: If you have one brother and one sister
  Marketing: Yeah {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: and they want to watch their favourite uh T_V_ programme ,
  Marketing: Yeah , but the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: so they say oh channel four channel three channel four channel three all the time ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah but {vocalsound} Yeah
  User Interface: Yeah , it's very interesting . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah but this {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: so .
  Industrial Designer: but the same can happen even with it you know this kind of remote control
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: because the {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah ,
  Marketing: I don't think it {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: but you have the remote control , so maybe you can keep it f with you .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} That's right .
  Project Manager: You're not you're not obliged to share it .
  Marketing: Oh , okay , okay , you mean it could be a problem for this kind of stuff .
  Project Manager: Yeah , we can {disfmarker} yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah , that's that's the advantage of intelligent controller . Even you h you have the controller , I can {vocalsound} I can say channel three ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} It's {disfmarker} it's {gap} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: No .
  User Interface: so it's c come to channel three ,
  Marketing: No , but this is disadvant disadvantage .
  User Interface: I don't have to {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah , I think it's a disadvantage .
  User Interface: It's advantage .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: And mayb maybe we can have the switching mode to pass from you know voice controller to
  Project Manager: Yeah , but one other question .
  Industrial Designer: manual controllers , eh .
  Project Manager: How how much will it cost ?
  Industrial Designer: No , more expensive maybe .
  User Interface: How much ?
  Project Manager: Yeah . Because I suppose we need to do research to have something working .
  User Interface: No no we we d we we just are use um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Some some efficient .
  Marketing: Uh if you if if you use the basic {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No no we just um have some cooperation with some research institute , we don't have to do some basic research on this field .
  Project Manager: So you think it won't cost an {disfmarker} Not a lot for us ? Or ?
  User Interface: Yeah , I think it's uh {disfmarker} because uh this technology is uh um for limited wor or limited wor uh lexical recognition , it's very {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah , but uh uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: it's uh {disfmarker} yeah . It's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: But it's it's changing how the remote control is gonna be built . Because then you need uh {disfmarker} I mean this doesn't have uh the power to do recognition , for example .
  Industrial Designer: Well y y you have also the language problem ,
  User Interface: No it's uh {disfmarker} Even for the f um because the the vocabulary {disfmarker} the {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: you know when you {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Mm-mm .
  Industrial Designer: 'Cause it it have to be universal ,
  Project Manager: Yeah . I agree with uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: so .
  User Interface: The vocabulary is very small , so that's not a problem .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah , but there is one problem that uh Baba talked about is the international
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: remote control . We need something that is international . Suppose we're {disfmarker} we want to sell it in France .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: The recognition system will be able to understand French . If you want to go to England , it will be able to understand English ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: so .
  User Interface: Yeah , the key , the key um the key of our {disfmarker} the key feature of our controller is that it's it has some some um adaptation
  Marketing: Yeah , this could be downloaded by the web maybe , or {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah but you know . The product {disfmarker} The pro
  User Interface: mechanism . It's It's it means when you when you sell this controller in China it's can recognise Chinese . It's r if you sell this controller in France it can recognise French .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} It's a very smart , it's a very smart controller maybe {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Mm , okay .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah ,
  Project Manager: And with no increase in the pri production price of the remote control ?
  User Interface: it's {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah . But {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Because of this product uh this technology has already been developed .
  Project Manager: Yeah , but how will you {disfmarker}
  User Interface: So {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah but the problem is how to s you know if this is a push button controller , you can send this con this remote control everywhere in the world , the same one .
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: If you have the language , you have to develop for each country .
  Marketing: Mm .
  User Interface: Oh n Yeah , yeah tha that's why we have to do language adaptation .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but for each country you have to do one ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: because uh the for example for Se {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Even for each f for even for different family we have to do d yeah we would we have to do adaptation to {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Oh really ? {vocalsound} That's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Oh .
  Marketing: Yeah ,
  Project Manager: Seems to be quite complex .
  Marketing: but then w Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: Comple
  User Interface: No , it's not so complex {vocalsound} .
  Marketing: we have to take care of the twelve Euros
  Project Manager: And what about voice recognition , do we have microphones ?
  Marketing: problem .
  Project Manager: And where will be they ? Do you think if we're far from television it will work ?
  User Interface: No no no it's not {disfmarker} I think that's n that's not a problem because you you don't have to wear a microphone . It it just {disfmarker} the microphone is embedded in the controller .
  Project Manager: Yeah , but where is the controller ?
  Marketing: Okay .
  User Interface: Where is the controller ?
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: It's in your family , in your home . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah , but we're {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No , but then it's it's like this uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: here it's uh an object . But here you say you want to use i uh s technology .
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah you can you can embed it uh microphone here .
  Industrial Designer: A microphone maybe .
  Project Manager: Yeah , but wha what is the use of voice or gesture recognition if you have a remote control li like this , if you have an object . If you want to use voice or gesture you need to be free , without any object .
  Industrial Designer: To talk to the to the T_V_ maybe .
  Project Manager: You just want to interact with television .
  User Interface: Yeah yeah just {disfmarker} you just put the controller here , then you
  Industrial Designer: I if you say one , he switch to channel ,
  User Interface: you use your command
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: yeah .
  User Interface: and you do s your gesture .
  Project Manager: but you can lose it . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: No no it's n y {vocalsound} {disfmarker} if you lose it {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: So well for example if it is somewhere in the room if i maybe if it is in the table there you can always say s channel one and the t the remote control gives the order to the T_V_ to switch to channel one .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Okay you {disfmarker} so you can build a kind of black box
  Industrial Designer: Devic
  Project Manager: and put it on T_V_ and just to recognize gestures and voice .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah . Yeah but so you need a camera and you know a microphone {vocalsound} inside your remote control .
  Project Manager: Ah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: But you would still have the buttons . Or is it {disfmarker} do you think it should be only voice recognition and gesture recognition ? Or you you still have the possibility to use buttons ?
  User Interface: think it {disfmarker} we should give the uh flexibility to the user and we think {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Okay , so you {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah ,
  User Interface: yeah .
  Marketing: yeah .
  User Interface: You can see {disfmarker} they can switch form one modality to another .
  Project Manager: Mm .
  Marketing: Yeah , I dunno . It's a bit risky risky .
  Project Manager: I think so .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: No ,
  Project Manager: And maybe it will be quite {disfmarker}
  User Interface: that's quite inter quite attractive .
  Industrial Designer: But I think that , you know , switching from one country to to another will be a problem , so {disfmarker} although y y
  User Interface: Well , if you do language adaptation , there should be no problem . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah but i i {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I dunno .
  User Interface: We should have confidence in technology . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , we should . {vocalsound} Uh .
  Project Manager: Hmm . So , what do you think ? We'll try the controllers you'd prefer .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: What ?
  Project Manager: Which kind of controller would you prefer to use , you as a remote control user ?
  Marketing: If if {disfmarker} I mean , uh I'm sure if the user pays the same price , he's happy to have recognition .
  User Interface: More features , yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: But if if if it like doubles uh
  Industrial Designer: I think he need a control that is very reliable ,
  Marketing: no one would would be interested .
  Industrial Designer: so .
  Project Manager: So I think it would be better not to do any intelligent controller and to stay with the Google controller or a fancy controller . Maybe try to mix the Google controller and the fancy controller ? Hmm ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . Yeah .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Just want to have something {disfmarker} controller which is in a kind of intelligent controller , easy to use , sophisticated and fancy . You think it's possible ?
  User Interface: Yeah but if if you stick to um {disfmarker} stick to the first two parts . So what's the difference between our controller with other products in the market ? There's no k features of our controller , so is there is there any necessary to design new controller without any breakthrough features ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . No ,
  User Interface: Would y would you replace your controller with a controller with similar function if you do not have some some function inside it that {disfmarker}
  Marketing: I mean {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: It's not really the {disfmarker} we
  Marketing: Y
  Industrial Designer: we can add for example some function like for browsing in internet , so {disfmarker} or something like that . But uh I think a user need {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah , you y that's a fun that's not the function of the controller , that's a function of T_V_ . You can replace your T_V_ with a new T_V_ with internet browsing function ,
  Marketing: No ,
  User Interface: but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: but you need you need new remote controller then . Because if you wanna browse internet or , I don't know , if you wanna type something ,
  Industrial Designer: Don't have a {disfmarker} the the {disfmarker} Yeah
  User Interface: Okay .
  Marketing: or {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: if we can send email from it .
  User Interface: But it's not the {disfmarker} only the problem {disfmarker} only the issue of controller , it's it's also the issue of the T_V_ .
  Marketing: No . No .
  Industrial Designer: Because the p the problem I can see with with the voice or the gesture itself wh what can happen in a family i i for example if {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Cause for example {disfmarker} yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah , but we do we do we we we cannot rely one hundred percent on these features to u to use the controller ,
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah , but uh we want so
  User Interface: but with the features of our controller such as you have the feature of voice recognition in your mobile but you seldom use it , your mobile , but you when you choose a new mobile , you choose the one with voice recognition .
  Marketing: Yeah , you wou you would {disfmarker}
  User Interface: That's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: True .
  User Interface: the feature is not one hundred percent reliable , but it's a feature to distinguish our product from our {disfmarker} from other products .
  Project Manager: Yeah , but w we we want something th that works all the time , every day , every hour , for everyone .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And for all the person of the family maybe ,
  User Interface: Yeah , uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: You don't need to tune it .
  Industrial Designer: so , yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah , if if if if you're if you ar if you already have a product it works one hundred percent reliable , would you replace it with another one ?
  Project Manager: Yeah , why not ? If it's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: I mean , for example the goo y
  Industrial Designer: Because you have new {disfmarker}
  Marketing: you say we would we would to have a Google-like controller .
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
  Marketing: I don't see how adding speech or gesture recognition would make the remote control look more like Google . Google is {vocalsound} is simple , works fine ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: so I I guess if can have a remote control that is really basic , simple and works fine , it's already a lot .
  User Interface: Yeah . Oh yes , but there's no big difference between the traditional controller .
  Marketing: Uh thi this {disfmarker} I mean , the user is not only interested in having speech or gesture recognition
  User Interface: The {disfmarker} then nn
  Marketing: or {disfmarker}
  User Interface: no .
  Marketing: if he has something that works fine and is really {vocalsound} fancy , looks nice and it's easy easy to use , easy to use .
  User Interface: Tha
  Project Manager: Not too expensive too .
  User Interface: But the there's there's n there's n not enough motivation for them to replace their old controller with a new one if there's no key feature in the new controller .
  Marketing: See {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  User Interface: That's the same {disfmarker}
  Marketing: That's the problem ,
  User Interface: yeah .
  Marketing: yeah . I mean , I I know it's more interesting to develop a remote controller with speech and gesture and whatever .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Ye {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: But you have to think , the user is the one who gonna buy the product
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: and so .
  Project Manager: Okay . So
  Marketing: I mean , that's the point .
  Project Manager: let's go to the Industrial Designer .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Project Manager: Maybe we'll be able to take a decision after that , so .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Two ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , participant two um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Working ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , working design ,
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: so .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: So I think {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: I can {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Can you go to the {vocalsound} next one ? I uh {disfmarker} it's not this one .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: It's uh oth the oth {vocalsound} so I {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: It's the working design . Sorry . {vocalsound} Component design .
  Project Manager: It's okay {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: So this yeah {disfmarker} so this is the described use {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: What ? Are you inst
  Project Manager: Uh I think there's something wrong with your {disfmarker}
  User Interface: It did didn't r receive it . Didn't receive it .
  Project Manager: Maybe you you record it somewhere else .
  Industrial Designer: I don't think so .
  User Interface: Participant one . Participant one .
  Project Manager: Interface concept . No .
  Marketing: Hmm .
  Project Manager: Mm mm .
  Industrial Designer: Oh . Maybe I record recorded directly on the {disfmarker} Computer .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh . {vocalsound} Nope . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Dunno .
  Industrial Designer: Okay , okay . Yes .
  Project Manager: It seems that we have a problem with the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: I dunno if you remember what you had to say or {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I can say it to you without .
  Project Manager: Yeah , so {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , maybe we can first come to
  Project Manager: No , I think it will be more interesting to start with uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: uh to Frahan . With Frahan , then you can prepare your slides ,
  Marketing: I think it's more interesting what he says ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah ,
  User Interface: then present it later .
  Marketing: okay .
  Industrial Designer: exac
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: You will had s some more information in {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: I think it will be interesting after your presentation to have um Baba's presentation .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah , true .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  User Interface: Okay . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: In fact , I don't know ,
  Project Manager: So . Okay .
  Industrial Designer: I s because i in my presentation I don't have here with {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay , never mind .
  Industrial Designer: so {disfmarker} It was in fact the design use to show you the design of what is inside a what is inside and what are the different component of the r
  User Interface: Okay .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: of the remote control . So it will be interesting so I could show you some some picture of what is inside
  User Interface: Okay . Okay .
  Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker} so . So I {disfmarker} in fact the the {disfmarker} f something I want to discuss is which kind of material are we going to use ,
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: so will {disfmarker} it will be wooden wooden di wooden remote control or a a plastic remote control like this one . So and {vocalsound} in which which which kind will be the the different bu button ,
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: so it can be some , you know , classic pushbutton like this one , or you have also some button like L_C_D_ where you know , the button the buttons are unlighted during the night ,
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: or , you know , you can see them in the darkness .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: And the other thing I want to discuss also is which kind of alimentation , electric alimentation do you want to have , so will it be for example uh d uh solar energy alimentation
  User Interface: Uh-huh .
  Industrial Designer: or will it be a battery like the classical battery so . And I think that for example for the alimentation it would be good to have uh both of them , so so for example in some country where you are in the the countryside and you are far from , you know , the cities uh for example in some place in in S Senegal , so if you have electric if you have solar alimentation , you just , when you want to have recharger or remote control power you just put it on the sun and after one hour you can come
  User Interface: Mm-hmm . Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker} so it can be interesting for people to have this kind of remote con It can be something interesting to make people buy it , for example .
  Project Manager: Yeah , I think it's an added value to the remote control
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah , yeah mm .
  Project Manager: and maybe it can attract all the ecological k yeah consumers
  Industrial Designer: Ecologists , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . Yeah .
  Project Manager: and but about the the price of adding this solar battery , would it be something really that will increase the price of production more ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: no ?
  Industrial Designer: Alrigh In fact , having them both will {disfmarker} if we want to have battery , regular battery and and {vocalsound} the solar energy battery it could be {disfmarker} it'll it will add a little bit of the price ,
  Project Manager: So .
  Industrial Designer: but it will be an added value also that will be compensated ,
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: so hmm .
  Project Manager: And what tha what about the uh materials ?
  Industrial Designer: And the materials , it depends for example you {disfmarker} if you have a wooden material it can be more {disfmarker} the plastic material is more common
  Project Manager: Impersonal , mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: it's very resistant but , you know , something wooden will be like , I don't know high cl so a special high class ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: Special for {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: or you know , you can have some {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah , and i if you {disfmarker} we want to put fashion in electronics maybe we can try to do something with wood .
  Marketing: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , even if it is not completely wood , but just a part of the , you know , will be wooden , in wood
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Mm .
  Industrial Designer: and it can be interesting .
  Project Manager: Mm okay , seems to be interesting , mm .
  Industrial Designer: And so the last point is y also would do you want to have some very cheap integrated cir circuits , chips , or do you have low level or or very very expensive , it depends , but I think that low level will be , you know , it is an interim module .
  Project Manager: Yeah , we want something easy to use and {disfmarker} so I think maybe something very low level wou would be enough .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah . Yeah , yeah .
  Project Manager: And you think that we will be {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think it will fit on the price we want , twel twelve Euros ,
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: so .
  Project Manager: So wood .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Project Manager: And what about the buttons ?
  Industrial Designer: I think the buttons I pr I prefer , you know , the L_C_D_ you know {vocalsound} lighted buttons because , you know , it's {disfmarker} I don't know {vocalsound} um yeah , in the dark , it's fashion
  Project Manager: No it's fashion , yeah .
  Industrial Designer: and it's related to how beautiful it is or uh if you want to watch T_V_ in the darkness or if you want to lo find your find your your remote control that is lost , you know in the darkness it's very easy so , right .
  Marketing: What about the touch scr touch screen ? For example . It's it's expensive I I guess .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I think a touch screen {vocalsound} will be t as expensive as the L_C_D_ buttons so .
  Marketing: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: But {disfmarker} And it is a kind of other design , I mean . It can also be interesting to have this kind of {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: So you got email ?
  Project Manager: I dunno . {vocalsound} I think we have only {vocalsound} {vocalsound} uh five minutes left .
  Marketing: Okay .
  Project Manager: Participant four ? Functional requirements ?
  Marketing: Uh no , trend watching . {vocalsound} The other one . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: This one ?
  Marketing: Yeah . Uh , I think so , just {disfmarker} Yeah , so just to meet the user requirements I would just do a s short anal analysis of the remote control market and to kind of um have a better overview of what's the fashion in general I've checked more than only the remote control market , so next .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So again , it's pretty much similar to what I've said in the previous meeting . Um user really really want a fancy look and feel . They're not so so interested in uh functional look and feel , okay . Like the one you've shown , David , with all the buttons and {disfmarker} I mean {vocalsound} i i it sounds good technically
  User Interface: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: but it's it's not what they want and uh {disfmarker} So , second point is they still want it it to be technologically innovative , so maybe it's sort of related to what you've said with the speech recognition and so on .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Marketing: At the same time , it's important that it's easy to use . So that were the three first points from the remote control uh analysis .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: Now i if we look at fashion in general um {disfmarker} Okay . Wha what we really see this year is that uh everything from clothes to shoes and furniture is is inspired by fruits and vegetables ,
  Industrial Designer: Ah yes .
  Marketing: okay , so I think we really have to take this into account for the design of the the thing .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah . Okay , yeah .
  Marketing: 'Cause it's it's really what people want . Even if it's in general fashion , we want it to be in the remote control . And then uh if if we take the ordering or the ranking of all the points , fancy look and feel has , on a score of seven would have six as importance . Uh the remote control has to be technologically innovative , it's three . Then easy to use uh it's not so important actually with respect to other y other ones .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Marketing: So we see fancy look an look and feel is the most important one , and then if we combine this with the fashion uh from Milan and Paris
  Industrial Designer: And fruit and vegetables yeah .
  Marketing: we go to the fruits and vede vegetables . And the other point I haven't mention is people wan want to have a spongy touch ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Spongy {vocalsound} 'Kay .
  Marketing: okay so this is this maybe doesn't really fit with the wooden design .
  Industrial Designer: Okay , yeah , yeah .
  Marketing: I dunno .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but the problem is which kind of material do you need to to be spongy ?
  Marketing: Yeah thi this is this would be like um
  Industrial Designer: Pla S
  Marketing: plastic-like , but rubber , mayb maybe , you know , rubber-like uh
  Industrial Designer: Very stuff {disfmarker} Okay , rubber rubber desi okay , yeah . Yeah .
  Marketing: device , so um
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: Okay , tha tha that was the main point , I think , from the trend in fashion .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: So we have to take decisions about the component concepts , about the energy . So , {vocalsound} as you say you want something technologically innovative , maybe using solar energy and {disfmarker} with battery would be something interesting ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Solar .
  Marketing: Yeah , so when I think it's {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: maybe will attract
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: Mm-hmm
  Industrial Designer: It will be a {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: pro-ecology consumers .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh cheap imprint so you s you propose low level chips would be uh enough to have something working well .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think {vocalsound} {disfmarker} Yeah , yeah . Yeah .
  Project Manager: Case .
  User Interface: Later ? {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So you think {gap} case . Something spongy . {vocalsound} Someth no wood .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No wood but {disfmarker} Plastic ?
  Marketing: Maybe not no wood , but I mean ma maybe not the part you touching you know .
  Industrial Designer: Would some {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Pla
  Project Manager: Maybe you {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I think we can have wood for example in the bottom and , you know . It depends on the design we want ,
  Marketing: Yeah , maybe the base .
  Industrial Designer: so .
  Project Manager: It's it's natural .
  Marketing: But still y
  Project Manager: Th The feeling is natural ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , it's natural
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: and i
  Project Manager: so maybe we can stay with wood .
  Industrial Designer: And it can be correlated to energy , solar energy , so for the marketing aspect , you know , saying that it's ecol
  Marketing: Yeah , I mean it's not exactly right for the spongy point of view .
  Industrial Designer: Mm , yeah , it's not right , so .
  Project Manager: But it's still fashion .
  Marketing: But we could maybe have both like part of wood and some rubber for the buttons ,
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Marketing: or
  Project Manager: Yeah ,
  Marketing: I dunno .
  Project Manager: something that you can {vocalsound} into it .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh and what about the user interface concept ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Google and {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Google and fancy ?
  Industrial Designer: and fancy , f how about the the voice ? {vocalsound} And {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Because I think that with the voice and gesture recognition there are still some disadvantages with this .
  Industrial Designer: Uh maybe we can do some marketing studies asking people if they're interested
  User Interface: Uh yes .
  Industrial Designer: and how {disfmarker} {vocalsound} It It is an an interesting concept to see {disfmarker} to have uh voice control .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Mm . Yeah .
  User Interface: The smart controller . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But {disfmarker} and the problem is I I'm we can infer i if you have v voice control why not to put it directly on the the T_V_ , so speak directly to the T_V_ and you don't need a remote control actually ,
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: so .
  Project Manager: but you need a receiver to recognize the gestures and the voice .
  Industrial Designer: But it will be embedded on the T_V_ and not on the remote control , so .
  Project Manager: That's true .
  Marketing: Yeah {disfmarker} d
  User Interface: Okay .
  Project Manager: So maybe we'll just focus on the Google controller plus the fancy controller ,
  Marketing: I dunno .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Project Manager: maybe try to mix them these two concepts together , just in one and do a remote control with solar energy and batteries and with lev low level chips and wood .
  User Interface: Yeah . It's good .
  Project Manager: And L_C_D_ buttons .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , L_C_D_ .
  Project Manager: Yeah , I think for these supplements the solar energy would be something quite interesting and not maybe too difficult to add .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah , yeah . And pf what can we think a supplement to {disfmarker}
  Marketing: What interface ?
  Project Manager: Yeah , for the interface something {disfmarker} added value .
  Industrial Designer: I think the supplement can be the voice {vocalsound} . It is just , you know , it is not the most important , but it can be a part of {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: With a module ? You mean the remote control with a mur module if you want you can just use
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , yeah .
  Project Manager: commands , words and use them when you don't want to use your fingers .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Mm .
  User Interface: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: To push button , yeah , yeah . Even it is for s just some kids , you know , switching channels one two three four .
  Project Manager: Turning the T_V_ o on o or off .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , turning {vocalsound} {disfmarker} yeah , yeah . Not very complex commands , but easy commands ,
  Project Manager: So ,
  Industrial Designer: so .
  Project Manager: adding some vocal commands .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Simple ones ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , simple ones for {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay . {vocalsound} So the next meeting will start in thirty meeti minutes {vocalsound} so {vocalsound} we'll {disfmarker} you will all have to work in in your direction . So you will have to work on the look and feel design , to have the easy to use , powerful and fancy remote control with some added value such as the uh simple vocal commands recognition .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yep . Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh you will have to work more , Baba , on the um spongy way to to add spongy um touch to the buttons {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} expensive buttons {gap} {vocalsound} Yeah , to make some new {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: and try to find maybe a nice shape for the wooden remote control .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} And I sup I think we'll have to evaluate th the product too .
  Marketing: Yeah , no not forgetting about the fruits and vegetables trends .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Okay , fruits .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: If possible .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: And remember as as I said last meeting , we really have to build a fashion remote control and uh the colour of the um the society will be really {disfmarker} it will be seen in the remote control .
  Industrial Designer: Need it to be , okay .
  Project Manager: So you will have {disfmarker} Baba and David Jordan you will have to work together on the prototype and you will have next time to show us um modelling a cl a clay remote control ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Okay .
  Project Manager: so you will have to model model something .
  User Interface: Okay . Yep
  Project Manager: And I think that some specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: So ,
  User Interface: Okay .
  Project Manager: no more questions , we can close the session .
  Industrial Designer: Sounds good , mm-hmm .
  Marketing: Hmm .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Okay , cool .
  Marketing: Okay .
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