input: Project Manager: Okay . Uh door is closed . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well , let's begin . Because if we have as much time as the last uh meeting , we'll have to hurry up .
  Marketing: I'm listening .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Right .
  Project Manager: Um well I'll start with the presentation again , the agenda .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Great .
  Project Manager: Yo . So . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} This one I think .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh yeah . Well alright . Um well , I'll show you the notes . It's not as uh interesting as it should be because we just uh had the meeting ,
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: but I'll show them . We'll get your presentations again on the conceptual design . Um {disfmarker} Then we'll have to dec decide about the control , the remote control concepts . I've put a f uh a file in the project management folder , which says exactly uh what kind of decisions we should take .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: So {vocalsound} this time we exactly know what to decide about .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright , great .
  Project Manager: And then we'll close again .
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker} Well these are some examples , but we'll talk about them later . We'll {vocalsound} first look at your uh presentations . Alright ?
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: Walter will uh start again this time ?
  Marketing: Yeah , great .
  Project Manager: Yo .
  Marketing: Alright , Trendwatch .
  Project Manager: 'Kay .
  Marketing: {gap}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Right . I will speak about uh latest trends trends , latest fashion updates , and uh things we must not do .
  Project Manager: 'Kay .
  Marketing: Uh the trends . {vocalsound} It's very important that uh the control is fancy looking and good uh feeling . Uh this because of our last model was very functional , but {vocalsound} it uh people didn't like that , so our new mo model must be very good-looking . That's uh something you uh have to take a look at .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . Alright .
  Marketing: And uh the feeling has to be very great . Also the menus and things like that they have to they have to feel great .
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Marketing: Um there's a minus uh two times here , because this is the most important point . This is uh two times as less important ,
  Project Manager: Less . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: and uh same for this one . {vocalsound} Um , technological technological innovations , that's uh regarded very highly too .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Uh such as an uh L_C_D_ screen , uh speech uh acknowledgement , as we uh talked about earlier .
  Project Manager: Well , yeah .
  Marketing: So we have to have uh something like that , like we uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: L_C_D_ and our uh our fronts .
  Marketing: Right . {vocalsound} Uh the last point is easy to use . Well I think that uh speaks for s for itself . I don't know who's uh who's going to look at that .
  Industrial Designer: Easy to use ?
  Project Manager: Well , easy to use uh s is a bit uh contradictionary with the first uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah ?
  Industrial Designer: I think that's your ta
  User Interface: {gap}
  Project Manager: Functional is not an issue , and then easy to use .
  Marketing: Yeah , I know .
  Project Manager: Well we have to choose one of them . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I think we have to go for the first one .
  Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: It's the most important one . So {gap} we have to uh take that one .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Marketing: So it it {vocalsound} it isn't very important that {vocalsound} that it works easy .
  User Interface: Well something fancy looking can be can be easy to use .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} But {vocalsound} it has to look great .
  Project Manager: Yeah . We'll we'll look at uh {gap} .
  Industrial Designer: You {disfmarker} Yeah . Yeah , yeah ,
  Marketing: We'll see . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: you can make a very complicated uh uh remote anyway , so ease of use {disfmarker} {vocalsound} It's not a very comp complicated device .
  Marketing: Yeah , right . But the most important thing is that it looks great and people say {gap} wow , that's real great uh great concept .
  Project Manager: 'Kay .
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Marketing: Alright . Uh these are the new colours of this year .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So it must be very bright , very colourful .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: People like this .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So we we have to think uh in this direction .
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: So i set your mind to it .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Findings ? Fashion update ? Fruit and vegetables are cool .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh you think ?
  Marketing: I am told . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: The group we are targeting is uh very pleased with fruit and vegetables .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So {vocalsound} we we we might cons consider in front of uh in in that sort of uh way .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah , well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Bananas .
  Marketing: Uh furthermore uh material , that's your part , should be very strong . I was thinking of something like uh {vocalsound} well uh iron plate over it ,
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: maybe in a colour or something ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: that looks so f really flashy but it it is also strong .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Project Manager: B
  Marketing: And that's uh also for the younger public .
  Project Manager: Well the the handy thing about our fronts is that we can follow these trends e ev every year . Th this year it's fruits but next year it's it's something totally different .
  Marketing: Yeah , that's great .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: But I think we can all make the the fronts of titanium or something uh really thin .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Marketing: So it looks very heavy but you can still uh use it very easily .
  Project Manager: Yep , alright .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: Well , the don'ts . Older people like dark colours and simple shapes . Well we don't want uh older people ,
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: we want young people .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap}
  Marketing: So uh we're gonna turn that around .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Marketing: We're gonna have real uh cool shapes and lots of colours . Right ?
  Project Manager: Wood is popular . Aha .
  Marketing: Okay . We don't want wood .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah yeah yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , among the old people , yeah .
  Marketing: Old people . So , that's it for me .
  Project Manager: Alright . Nice , uh well {gap} show us .
  Industrial Designer: Right , I am going to tell you something about the components design . Uh again I have uh put up the specification properties . This uh so um uh the different uh components of the of of the device . And the materials ? Um I have heard several things , so I uh I'll have to change that on the way . But uh the case ? Uh I suggested uh in the previous meeting hard plastic . But uh as you indicated uh it should be strong .
  Marketing: Yeah , we should change that .
  Industrial Designer: It should feel strong . So maybe plastic is not uh sufficient .
  Project Manager: Well maybe it it it is ,
  Industrial Designer: We should move to uh something {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: but it doesn't look strong . So maybe {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Well yeah . Y Hard plastic i is of course uh pretty pretty tough , but it doesn't have a really really tough look . So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No no no .
  Project Manager: But we still have to look at our price of course . Because uh if we want an L_C_D_ uh window etcetera uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Also {disfmarker} Yeah . Mm-hmm . But we'll return to that .
  Project Manager: Yeah ?
  Industrial Designer: Uh the buttons of course rubber , I think everyone agrees . And electrical cables , copper is all pretty basic stuff . The chips made of silicon , I guess . I think that's the best uh way to do it .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: And infra infrared l LED is uh just a simple bulb .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Then I've uh {vocalsound} had a few findings , made a few findings . Uh the target audience product style . Um it's uh um generally the case that uh senior and wealthy people above uh forty five years old uh like , as you said , uh particularly the traditional materials as such as wood and materials such as that . They also like straightforward shapes and luxurious style . But of course that's not our uh things this . So this is things we must not do .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: And then we have uh young uh and dynamic uh people , which is of course our uh group , the people we aim at . Um under forty five years old . Uh they like soft materials uh with primary colours . Soft materials is of course uh agai again a bit a contradiction with uh our uh material choice of what you said , that uh it should be hard an and and and and strong looking .
  Marketing: Mm . Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: But they like soft materials , uh so we might uh we have to consider that . And also they like curved round shapes . So not uh too formal like like uh the older people want . And if uh also a finding but not very ap applicable here , that sports and gaming devices such as uh discmans for jogging and that those kind of devices , gaming devices , should define the characteristics of the device . But uh since we don't have a really a sports or gaming device , so we don't really have to consider that .
  Project Manager: Sports uh , they're uh that uh are accessible on on your L_C_D_ uh window uh
  User Interface: Soccer fronts . {vocalsound} Mm .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {disfmarker} Huh ? {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Project Manager: That's nice . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Project Manager: All the {gap} results ?
  Industrial Designer: Well I also have um several examples of uh styles ,
  Marketing: We keep coming back to the fronts . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: so you can get a clear picture of uh what I mean .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh {vocalsound} these are the basic uh older older peoples' stuff .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: It was not very uh interesting uh , very classical looking ,
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound} Nai . Uh no .
  Industrial Designer: but that's n that's not what we want .
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Industrial Designer: We have these kind of things . I don't know what exactly they are .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Fruity . {vocalsound} Fruity .
  Industrial Designer: It looks like {disfmarker} Well you know uh you recognise the shapes ,
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: it's very primary colours , uh bright colours and uh round shapes .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: You also uh {vocalsound} see uh this device , it's not very round and {disfmarker} Fruity of course . Yeah , it uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: It's t terrible .
  Industrial Designer: That's true .
  Project Manager: Alright .
  Industrial Designer: And uh well round shapes , primary colours .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: You can see it all here . And of course uh this famous device .
  Project Manager: Hmm ?
  Industrial Designer: I think as you know something uh some devices like this .
  Project Manager: Yeah , alright .
  Industrial Designer: So to give you an idea of uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Well it's got a strong look , this . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: This has a strong look . Although it's plastic , it's it's grey to to to give it iron look .
  Marketing: Yeah , it still has a strong look .
  Project Manager: Yeah . And it's round .
  Industrial Designer: That's uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: But then you are losing your fruity colours .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Well we have to make a {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well you can make th th th that middle ring can you you can make another colour . So uh those kind of things you can you can combine .
  Marketing: That's true .
  Industrial Designer: Well we can't really make a round uh a round remote control . I don't think that's very practical ,
  Project Manager: No , it isn't .
  Industrial Designer: but {disfmarker} But uh it's important to to uh to think about the colour .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Because if we make it grey or or silvery looking , it it does make it a lot more uh does make it looking a lot more stronger .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: 'Cause if you look at this , it it doesn't look very very strong ,
  Marketing: Yeah but the {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: becau But this is plastic , and and this too , but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: But it doesn't have to look strong . The the results are , the feel of the material is expected to be strongy .
  Industrial Designer: The feel ? Uh alright .
  Marketing: The feel .
  Project Manager: So , if you ti
  Industrial Designer: Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: And it it doesn't have to be strong , also .
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Nah yeah the feel {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: You you {disfmarker} Maybe you should have uh some some coloured titanium or something .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Only the feel . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So it it looks pretty but it feels strong .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: Right .
  User Interface: Oh .
  Industrial Designer: And I {disfmarker} Then I have some more findings . Um {vocalsound} uh about the energy energy source of the of the device ,
  Marketing: I agree .
  Industrial Designer: uh I uh suggest uh the basic battery . I uh got some other um uh uh energy sources of course . But solar energy is not very practical inside a house , because you don't have a have a lot of uh sun .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: And uh kinetic and and and dynamos are are not very practical , I think , for uh for a simple remote ,
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: that's a bit , oh , that's a bit uh {disfmarker} That's a bit uh much .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap} No titanium . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: And I also suggest uh as a shape uh a double curved case .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Uh the disadvantage of that that you can use no titanium . That that's the information I received . If you use the curved case , uh a curved case , double curved then you can't use titanium .
  Project Manager: What do you exactly mean with double curved ?
  Industrial Designer: Now uh this uh to give it a more modern look .
  User Interface: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: And uh {vocalsound} now the the shape , yeah , {gap} a curved case . Um yeah I think uh sort of triangle-shaped bottom or something . Uh {gap} a more modern look not plain , long box style , but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} I dunno .
  Project Manager: Double curved ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I'll draw it ,
  Project Manager: It it mean {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah , well okay . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: but maybe later .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And it makes uh it gives it a more u user friendly shape , than if you have uh {gap} . Um anyway {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Um f as uh for the buttons , simple push buttons . No uh otherwi uh no um difficult scroll things or some uh things like that , because it makes more complex and expensive . And , uh as we agreed , we don't use a speaker or a sensor or um {vocalsound} uh speak uh speech uh controlled {vocalsound} device .
  Marketing: Yeah right . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Because it makes it also more complex and expensive . But we do use an L_C_D_ screen , so we uh we do have to consider uh of we have to use a more advanced chip , which is more complex and expensive . But {disfmarker} It's worth the trouble I think ,
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: The buttons can be made of an uh a soft material .
  Industrial Designer: because {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Because people like that .
  Project Manager: This soft material thing from uh {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh rubber is a soft material , I guess .
  User Interface: Yeah . Right . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh soft enough .
  Marketing: Yeah . Right .
  Industrial Designer: So that's uh basically what I want to talk about .
  Project Manager: Alright . Okay . We will take that . And then uh Mike ? Okay .
  User Interface: Yeah . Well um nah the method um we will um include the buttons as we discussed uh earlier . Um an L_C_D_ s screen will be implemented . Um we must decide where , this meeting .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Um there are new developments in speech recognition um systems , {vocalsound} um and they are already being uh used on uh coffee machines . And um well they're cheap , so we could use them now .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Oh {disfmarker} That's interesting .
  User Interface: Um it's not really speech recognition , it's more um like you can um talk to the chip , uh record the message and record an answer , and then once you uh talk to the remote , then um he will a answer with the the prerecorded message that you left . So if I say hi Mike , and you have recorded uh hi Mike back , then you will get that .
  Industrial Designer: Oh , yeah , I understand . Yeah .
  Marketing: Oh okay . {gap}
  Project Manager: Okay . But you can also say that , when you say something , it does some function .
  Marketing: Right .
  User Interface: No it doesn't does not do anything .
  Marketing: No .
  Project Manager: Oh . That's a bit uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: But i it's just a {disfmarker}
  Marketing: But that that makes it cheap .
  Project Manager: Yes . I understand .
  User Interface: Yeah it's it's cheap .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: It's {vocalsound} it's just a an extra function ,
  Project Manager: But {vocalsound} it has no functionality for our remote at all .
  Marketing: and it's cheap .
  User Interface: No
  Marketing: No but {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  User Interface: but that's the gadget they want , or the gimmicks .
  Marketing: Yeah , right . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But it it's n nice for young people .
  Marketing: Young people love them .
  User Interface: Yes , we we should really uh include that one , I think . Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: They like gadgets . Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah , ple Right .
  Project Manager: Hmm .
  Industrial Designer: If it's cheap . Yeah .
  User Interface: Well , as I said uh earlier I think the uh L_C_D_ screen should be uh positioned at the lower end of the remote .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Um the buttons for screen width and general settings and {gap} uh and that kind of stuff {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: um we can also do let that kind of functions um be shown in the L_C_D_ screen , uh instead of uh extra buttons .
  Project Manager: So you put a menu in the L_C_D_ ?
  User Interface: I think young people and yeah w well every user would like that . Um the buttons um should be positioned uh positioned the same way as they are on a , well , conventional remote , I think . For the learnability and uh well to keep it recognisable . A voice recognition can be uh implemented . And uh I drew an example ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: but it did not work quite the well uh the way I wanted it to do .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright .
  Industrial Designer: Can you draw it now of uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: How {disfmarker} How {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Ah .
  User Interface: Hmm ? Well I have the {disfmarker} I can draw it again ,
  Industrial Designer: Can you draw it now ?
  User Interface: and I know what I did wrong . I didn't tick the note bo box in the {gap} . Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Mm . Alright .
  Marketing: How do you uh uh give input to the menu on the L_C_D_ screen ?
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Um with the uh the up and down and and well buttons and the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Alright . So you have a menu button , and then you can go up and down .
  Project Manager: But then we should also have an uh an Okay button .
  User Interface: Well I will draw what I had drawn on the screen . Yes .
  Marketing: Yeah right .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Um I shall draw this . If it uh works .
  Industrial Designer: {gap} button , yeah .
  Project Manager: Just uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} There is already a blank . Yes ? So {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Mm so have I .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Nah .
  Marketing: {gap} . {gap} You have to push hard .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: I suggest a banana shape .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Because of the fruity uh fashion .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: No m Next year that's out .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yellow and {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah alright , yeah . Just a hunch . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well these little buttons are a bit difficult to uh draw uh correct .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Those are the the cha the channel buttons of course ?
  User Interface: Yeah just uh the numbers . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: And then below is the L_C_D_ screen ?
  User Interface: These these will be bigger in the the real design .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Alright , yeah .
  User Interface: This must be the Okay button used to uh interact with the L_C_D_ screen .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  User Interface: And with this you can uh , yes , go to through the menus
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: and that can Um the video button should be uh an apart button ,
  Marketing: You've {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yes .
  User Interface: because you want it to uh t , yeah , to use it fast within one uh click .
  Marketing: Right .
  Project Manager: And what's the menu button ?
  User Interface: Um it's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: And you you need a you need a speaker .
  User Interface: Hmm ?
  Marketing: For the {disfmarker} {gap}
  User Interface: This button can also be the Menu button , we use in the menus {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But how did {disfmarker} How do you get out of the menu then ? Yeah .
  User Interface: Well we we can add another button here , but {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Maybe I you could j just do an an exit with Okay . Uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Uh by pe pressing the menu button again . By pressing the menu button again , you go uh out .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: It's usual the the the d kind of the way it works .
  Project Manager: Yes , well but bec because when you {vocalsound} push Menu you get in ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ? Yeah ?
  Project Manager: and then you have to push Okay when you get to a choice .
  User Interface: Ah right . Well you you {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . But you can men you can press menu again to get out .
  Project Manager: Well that's also the Okay button . That's you you should have uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No no , we we we should uh add uh a extra Menu button
  Industrial Designer: No .
  Project Manager: Or you can put in the L_C_D_'s uh window an option Get Out .
  User Interface: and this the Okay button .
  Marketing: Exit .
  Project Manager: Exit {gap} .
  User Interface: Ah once you have an extra Menu button , you don't need that that extra option .
  Project Manager: Well , it's just a choice .
  User Interface: You have uh redundancy .
  Marketing: But we need a we need a a recording recording button for the speech uh part .
  User Interface: Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: Or don't {disfmarker}
  User Interface: if we decide to uh to implement that , maybe we should .
  Industrial Designer: Why would you put it uh then , and where is the recording uh the microphone ?
  User Interface: Well they that could be anywhere .
  Industrial Designer: Where would you put it ?
  User Interface: That's very small . It could be uh down here . {vocalsound} Um . Well , not here .
  Industrial Designer: Uh-huh .
  User Interface: I {vocalsound} yeah I suggest here . But that's just a little {vocalsound} gap . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Microphone , yeah .
  Marketing: Right , and spea speaker at the back , or something .
  User Interface: Well the speaker and the microphone , I think , are the same uh little hole thingy .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah I understand .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright .
  Industrial Designer: Uh but uh we could uh d do , but it's perhaps more expensive , uh the speaker on the back or something .
  User Interface: Well i Um there are a all already being implemented in in coffee machines , so they won't be uh very expensive . But {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Huh ?
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Marketing: Alright .
  Project Manager: Yeah ? Okay .
  User Interface: This is my suggested design .
  Project Manager: Well , okay , alright . Um then let's have a look at the decisions we are going to have to make .
  User Interface: Um {disfmarker} Yes . And oh I think as you can see so , the L_C_D_ screen does look better uh at the lower end , or at the bottom .
  Project Manager: I'd {disfmarker} I agree .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} But {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah , fine . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Fine . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well yeah yeah yeah .
  Marketing: Move on . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: Oh , um I had some uh examples .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: I can live with it .
  Project Manager: Yes ?
  User Interface: You can uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} But {disfmarker} I did not like it very much , but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well these are quite obvious , very ugly remote . {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Too big . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: They do they don't look fruity enough .
  User Interface: No , well th
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Nei They're n they're not trendy .
  Project Manager: They're all black .
  User Interface: Yeah . Well not all . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Hey , that one I like . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Uh this is for children but {vocalsound} th
  Industrial Designer: Tho Yeah those {disfmarker}
  Marketing: It doesn't look strong . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: No .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} No .
  Industrial Designer: But it doesn't uh the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} The remote . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: W but with the colours i it's a bit the way we're going to .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , ok Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah right .
  User Interface: Well this is a terrible {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Terrible .
  Marketing: This is just crazy .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But it it must not look too childish of course huh ?
  Project Manager: It's it's all too much buttons .
  User Interface: Um this looks {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Too many buttons . That's {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah . This uh these are the L_C_D_ screens . I think we should , if it's um possible , uh one with colours , but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Nah th It's too expensive .
  User Interface: I don't know uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well , that's too expensive I think .
  User Interface: Too expensive ? Alright .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Alright . Yeah .
  User Interface: Well {disfmarker} Nah .
  Industrial Designer: But it {disfmarker} Yeah . {gap}
  Project Manager: Okay . Huh .
  User Interface: Ha , even more . N
  Project Manager: Mm no . {vocalsound} 'Kay .
  Marketing: But are we going for a strange uh form ?
  Project Manager: No , not very strange .
  Marketing: 'Cause people like that .
  Industrial Designer: Not not too strange . No .
  Marketing: Not too strange .
  Project Manager: It still has t
  Marketing: You can make the the underside , you can make it more round , where the L_C_D_ is .
  Project Manager: Yes . Th a a kind of bridge . So it f falls over the hand .
  User Interface: Well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: I dunno if you know the No Nokia telephone , with uh the round uh thing at at the bottoms , s something like that .
  Project Manager: Yeah ? Yeah ? Yeah .
  Marketing: You know ? {gap}
  Project Manager: Well I have at home {vocalsound} a remote with a bridge . It's just a half round half half circle at {disfmarker} And then it falls exactly over the hand , and that's very nice . That's {disfmarker} It feels comfortable .
  Marketing: Yeah , but people like something uh new you know .
  Industrial Designer: Exotic yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah , different .
  Industrial Designer: We have t Yeah , yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I will design it , we design it later .
  Marketing: Y yis
  Industrial Designer: So we'll get to that later I guess .
  Marketing: Alright . Great .
  Project Manager: Yeah , alright . Um where did I put it ? Um conceptual phase , I think this is it .
  Industrial Designer: The specific shape . The {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I got this from our friends .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Uh yeah the conceptual design .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Our sources .
  Project Manager: These are a few examples which we have to decide about . All the the materials from the case , uh the electric cable that's all your uh your side of the story . Um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Your bag . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . Um now from the user interface , your uh package ? {vocalsound} Um where {disfmarker} No well , that's more like the buttons where they have to come . And um {disfmarker} B a bit of , yeah well , a bit of uh design .
  User Interface: Yeah , this is what we've just done . Right ?
  Project Manager: Yes , but we have to decide about these now .
  Industrial Designer: But uh we should decide now .
  User Interface: Ah right .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: And uh the trend-watching .
  Marketing: Materials are the most , most impor
  Project Manager: So as you said , fruity is in , well {gap} sells good .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Wow .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh these things .
  Industrial Designer: So we have to uh put it in one uh document . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh yes . Um so if we uh go through them {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Copy paste uh this story into a into a Word document , and then uh put the answers after the subjects . {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Not everything .
  Industrial Designer: Well we have to decide all these things ?
  User Interface: Yeah but {vocalsound} all these examples are uh of a coffee machine .
  Project Manager: Yeah well uh {disfmarker} Why should I uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: W we can uh override them ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Well a case ? Uh that's me . Uh I suggest {disfmarker} Well what do I suggest actually ? {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: What what kind of properties should it have ? Well we just listened .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh s solid ,
  User Interface: I think we {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: yeah . Yeah .
  User Interface: Why don't we um use uh titanium or or a hard , yeah , some kind of metal for the uh the the whole remote except the front .
  Marketing: Do you know the new uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: That {disfmarker} Just like um most cell phones are .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I understand .
  Marketing: No {vocalsound} no {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . So we have titanium . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: The front is the most important .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah but the non-removable elements of the of the remote , so not the front , could be titanium ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: to give that uh strong look .
  Project Manager: You know what ?
  Industrial Designer: And then the front is made of plastic . And you can put that on and off , and switch it .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: But the feel of plastic isn't strong . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No but you have titanium of course .
  User Interface: No but you you have this {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh you have the best of both worlds .
  Marketing: Yeah alright , alright . 'Kay .
  User Interface: Yeah , you have the re remote in your hand like this . So you feel titanium . {gap}
  Industrial Designer: And of course , yeah , you have the the the plastic front end . But you also have the titanium .
  Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} Fronts are are cheaper than when they're from plas
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah of course , but yeah {vocalsound} you have to make a decision .
  User Interface: And I don't know if you can make steel just any way you want it to .
  Marketing: Yeah , but it it's expensive .
  Industrial Designer: I guess so .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh titanium I sh I think uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Bendable .
  Industrial Designer: Huh ? Well , well the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Bendable .
  User Interface: Well any colour {gap} {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: According to my sources , uh it's it's totally possible to make an entire uh uh uh {disfmarker} Titanium is available , and uh we can uh make uh an entire remote out of it , if we want .
  User Interface: Yeah , then you you paint it in the colour you want it . The plastic is is the colour you want it .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: Yeah . Paint spray .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: Yeah alright .
  User Interface: So {gap} {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Project Manager: Alright .
  Marketing: So , we're going for a titanium back and a plastic front ?
  Project Manager: I've uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
  Project Manager: Titanium back , plastic front .
  Industrial Designer: I think that's a nice trade-off .
  Project Manager: Okay . Um well I am going to put it in here , uh because we can uh look .
  Marketing: Yeah , great .
  Project Manager: I {disfmarker} Um solid feel and trendy look .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Project Manager: So material , um hard plastic for the front ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , for the front and then titanium for the back .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: For the non-removable uh part .
  Marketing: But then you have the problem , when you have a titanium back , you can't switch it . When you want an other colour on the front , it doesn't match .
  User Interface: Well titanium is neutral . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: You know ?
  Industrial Designer: The titan titanium isn't isn't v very {disfmarker} Yeah , i it doesn't uh {vocalsound} curves .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} I understand .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No uh I nei . {vocalsound} Titanium is very {disfmarker} No no no , but you know b Titanium is very basic colour ,
  Marketing: Yeah , yeah , yeah . Yeah .
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Industrial Designer: and it doesn't really matter if we have a purple front on it or a orange front .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I dunno if if you disagree ,
  Marketing: Alright .
  User Interface: Well {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: but I think it's doesn't matter very much .
  User Interface: Our customers will use those uh funky uh trendy colours ,
  Marketing: Yeah . Alright .
  User Interface: and they don't use uh wood .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Funky customers .
  Industrial Designer: And even if it does uh doesn't match , it will uh {disfmarker} People like mm colours that don't match .
  User Interface: Mm . Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay . And well
  Marketing: Alright . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: the the electrical cable is just normal uh {gap} . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Cop copper uh material .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Excuse me ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: The electrical cable uh does {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: It's uh from uh our coffee uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah copper i just a ba basic uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No we don't use an electrical cable .
  Project Manager: {gap} {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah inside , but this is for the coffee uh machine .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah in {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah well inside the remote control we use a couple of uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Of course .
  User Interface: Yeah , but that's not what's meant here , I think . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Nei .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: So external .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Oh external ?
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Well {gap} {vocalsound} A coffee grind doesn't have {disfmarker} Na ja . Never mind the coffee grind .
  Project Manager: Well uh
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: all the all the inside work of our remote is uh standard work . So {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Right ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: The chip is normal silicon .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh the buttons are normal , etcetera .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay ? So that's just easy .
  Industrial Designer: Alright . Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: Uh we decide about that just by looking at our competitors and our {vocalsound} earlier uh remotes . The conceptual specification of the user interface ? Um well we have our beautiful drawing .
  User Interface: Well I got a better one here
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright .
  User Interface: and I will um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well you can put that in uh into the shared folder ,
  User Interface: The shared folder .
  Project Manager: and then I'll put it in our end report .
  User Interface: I will work this out uh for the uh next meeting .
  Project Manager: Yes , you can {disfmarker} Mm yeah . You can uh put some uh which button is what .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay . Um
  User Interface: Yeah yeah yeah .
  Project Manager: the trend-watching {disfmarker} {gap} included these days . And what do we ?
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: We thing that fruit and bright colours are {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah the the the front w
  Marketing: I think we can launch a couple of packages . You can buy a different kind of of of machine ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: but it's the same thing , but with another front .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: We can also uh implement um we can also implement fronts from um movies that are very hot .
  Marketing: So {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah that's the whole idea of the front .
  Marketing: And you can you can {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
  User Interface: Yes .
  Project Manager: Uh those kind of things .
  Marketing: Yeah right .
  User Interface: But that's for later on . The fronts y you can do anything with them .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah but if you if you launch uh five different packages like iPod mini {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , right {disfmarker} For the uh initiative uh launch .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: For the for the launch , yeah .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Marketing: It's good marketing .
  Project Manager: Launch different lines at once .
  Industrial Designer: So e th then a c couple of basic colours . Not not very uh {vocalsound} sim Not {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah , n not too heavy . You can always take another pick . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: We should not give them the m the most lovely front when they buy it for the first time .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} They have to buy it later on .
  User Interface: Oh yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah . {gap} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah right .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah . Yeah .
  Project Manager: Come on . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} More basic .
  Project Manager: We still have to make those fifty million , yeah ? {vocalsound} .
  Industrial Designer: Very boring , yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well you can you can give them uh s s three or so ,
  Industrial Designer: The most boring fronts possible .
  Project Manager: The most ugly .
  User Interface: so that they can uh experiment with it and that they want more .
  Marketing: Yeah , right .
  Project Manager: Two .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah but you you can have some basic colours , and then we come with the special patterns on them ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: Red red , blue and green you give them or something ,
  Industrial Designer: and and uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: and then you can give them {gap} uh other ones .
  Industrial Designer: And uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah . Alright . Um well the buttons etcetera , we get from Mike . Uh this fruit and bright colours , yeah well I think we'll have to in the next uh half an hour , we'll have to uh s s specify the different uh types we want to launch , when we uh {vocalsound} well introduce our remote .
  Industrial Designer: Uh we still have to make {disfmarker} We have still have to make the es the the real basic design . {vocalsound} Because yeah we have the sketch but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah . But we we must remember that {vocalsound} fancy look-and-feel is the most important thing .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Marketing: Else it w won't sell .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: Alright , yeah .
  Project Manager: Well I'll have to , before I get another warning for five minutes , I'm going to get {disfmarker} Where is my mouse ? Uh where is my mouse ? {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Lost my mouse . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Oh yeah . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um this is it .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Unbelievable . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well , um this we have .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh basic stuff . Interface we have . Supplements , L_C_D_ . Maybe a a cheap voice recording . Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah we should do that .
  Industrial Designer: The price ?
  Project Manager: Yes . Alright . Individual actions .
  Industrial Designer: We all agree on that . Yeah .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Project Manager: Industry designer , {gap} . User Interface , Mike . You're going to work together on a prototype drawing on the SMARTboard .
  User Interface: Yeah , we can do that .
  Industrial Designer: Together or uh {disfmarker} Yeah together .
  Marketing: Yeah togeth {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} That's what I got uh to hear .
  Industrial Designer: How {disfmarker} Yeah yeah , but how do I {disfmarker}
  User Interface: But bu we stay we stay here or something ?
  Project Manager: Yes well we'll get it to hear that I think .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But I think so . Th they're saying SMARTboard and that's it {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} You can take the SMARTboard . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: This is the SMARTboard , so {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Ah right . {vocalsound} And take it to our rooms and uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um so you can uh you you are going to make a prototype , and y Well that's includes uh specifying the buttons etcetera .
  User Interface: Ah , specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah . So you'll get it on your em on your laptop . Um well you will go and do something else uh on the project {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Some {disfmarker} Some non functional tasks .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Have fun {vocalsound} .
  Project Manager: yeah project evaluation . So um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: 'Kay .
  Project Manager: {gap} , what are you going to do ? Uh I don't know what product evaluation exactly means , but uh you'll get uh the specifications .
  Marketing: We don't have produ product yet ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: so kind of difficult . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: That's why I uh {disfmarker} But uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You're fired . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: How long do we still have ? {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well , can we talk about something else ? Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah . {gap}
  Industrial Designer: Uh no I don't know anything , but maybe uh anyone else uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {gap} Ajax . Nah .
  User Interface: Yeah . Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ?
  User Interface: Will we use uh round buttons or square ones for the for the numbers ?
  Industrial Designer: Round I think .
  Marketing: Um round .
  User Interface: Yeah I I I also uh thought {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . Round .
  Industrial Designer: To make it as uh as round as possible .
  User Interface: And these uh these s these buttons {vocalsound} uh are more uh triangle-ish shaped
  Project Manager: Why does {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Curvy . Yeah .
  User Interface: with a square one in the middle .
  Marketing: So you can see you have to up or down .
  Project Manager: Ah f fuck you .
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: But now I see the {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: And this must be uh volume I think ,
  Project Manager: Heh ?
  Marketing: and this programme .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} We can't get {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Well most of the time uh up and down is programme and left and right are volume , I think .
  Industrial Designer: Well th th th th th that depends uh .
  Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah , it depends , but {disfmarker} If you turn up the volume , you always see this thingy go up . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well we uh {disfmarker} We we j we'll just give them an uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah , that's right .
  Industrial Designer: We'll design it ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: and then they can give comments on it .
  Project Manager: Ts
  User Interface: Yeah alright .
  Marketing: Yeah . Okay .
  Project Manager: It doesn't work any more . We can't save them . So we'll just have them uh standing there .
  Marketing: Yeah , I noticed . You can't uh click the corners .
  Project Manager: No . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: It's a bit uh bit a pity .
  Marketing: It's a real real great thing .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well we still have uh more than five minutes . Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So {vocalsound} what are we going to do ? {vocalsound} I as Project Manager ha don't have a clue . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Let's start the design .
  Project Manager: Oh we can uh decide how we implement {vocalsound} the feeling from our company into the remote .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: Well yeah . Um I think um {vocalsound} a logo , our company logo , and the slogan should be or could be {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Also the slogan ? On the {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , why not ? {vocalsound} If there's enough space , {vocalsound} you can put uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Uh I I'd say only the logo .
  Industrial Designer: We'll we'll {disfmarker}
  Marketing: O Yeah . Me too .
  User Interface: Too much text and it gets too too busy .
  Industrial Designer: Well , our slogan is not very long . It's just a simple {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: We put the fashion in electronics .
  User Interface: Well {vocalsound} it's quite a long phrase .
  Industrial Designer: What is it ? {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: We put the fashion in electronics .
  Marketing: But we kree we keep adjusting to the fashion with our fronts . So {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You c {vocalsound} But you can put it on the back , on the titanium part . The logo and the and the {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Ah the logo should be on the top I think .
  Marketing: Yeah , right . The logo {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: On the top . Yeah . Well in in in the right top corner ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah they do . Well yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: Right corner , yes .
  Project Manager: And well you c On the back , you can put uh h {vocalsound} At the bottom , you can put the logo with the {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Right corner , or maybe here in the middle ?
  User Interface: {gap} uh the text ?
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Just just small .
  User Interface: Uh yeah , at the back ?
  Marketing: But the logo the logo shouldn't be exchangeable , when you get off the front .
  User Interface: Well you c Well uh {disfmarker} Yes .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah it it should be hard on the on the on the board ,
  Project Manager: Yeah well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} Yeah .
  User Interface: You can {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: and you can remove the front .
  User Interface: The logo can be on on every uh front .
  Marketing: Yeah ,
  User Interface: Yeah , but then you must uh really uh yeah {vocalsound} push it in or something .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Carved into the material . {vocalsound} No , you you can carve it into the titanium at the back .
  Industrial Designer: I l I like the idea of the of the slogan on the on the on the thing .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But {vocalsound} am I the only one , or uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , on the backside .
  Project Manager: Well , management would like it . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well n n not not on the front side , I think .
  Project Manager: The front side , no no l no slogan .
  Industrial Designer: No not on the front ,
  User Interface: {vocalsound} On the back {disfmarker} Yes , you you can , yeah , push that in ,
  Industrial Designer: but on the backside . Uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Sorry .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} so that it is always be there .
  Industrial Designer: I think it's a nice idea , {vocalsound} to make it more recognisable , that the next to the logo you have the slogan .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: I agree .
  Industrial Designer: To make more uh of an impression .
  Marketing: But not too big .
  Industrial Designer: Not too big . No ,
  Marketing: Just uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: very small . Not {vocalsound} on the entire back , but uh just very small .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} You have to make this titanium too .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But readable enough of course .
  Marketing: Okay .
  Project Manager: Yes , slogan from company on the back with logo
  Industrial Designer: But we'll uh we'll take that uh with us into the design .
  User Interface: Yeah I think over here the logo . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Lo Uh yeah . Or maybe here in the middle , but we'll decide later .
  Project Manager: and logo also on the front but not exchange uh {disfmarker} Uh ? Hmm ? {vocalsound} {gap} Uh when changing fronts .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Alright , that's decided .
  Industrial Designer: Do you do you see a bit of the of the um of the uh titanium ? O on the front ?
  Project Manager: Five minutes left .
  Industrial Designer: Uh maybe if we make this this this lower part titanium ,
  User Interface: Yes we could {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {gap} the front is the the upper part , and the the bit with the with the L_C_D_ screen . So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So a bit of titanium between ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . No no betwe
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: That's a bit {disfmarker} Oh that that's that's pretty cool .
  Industrial Designer: of between we can do but {disfmarker} But then you have two parts of front , two fronts that {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No , they have two fronts ,
  Marketing: No no no no .
  User Interface: that . You you can {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: No ?
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah . {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: This enti entire bottom ?
  Marketing: Else you you get problems with the L_C_D_ . Like dust in it and so things like that .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: When you exchange all the fronts and it's open .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I already have uh all kinds of uh filth between the mobile .
  User Interface: No , you can you can just {disfmarker} And then not a straight line but uh some sort of wave or something .
  Marketing: you can make it go round this corner too where the logo is . Because it has to be uh there all the time you know .
  Industrial Designer: And then the lower part is titanium ?
  User Interface: This is titanium . And this is uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I think that's nice , yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . Some some kind of wei weight in it . Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Round forms .
  User Interface: F front .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . I like that bit of uh titanium also on the uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah . With the with the curved edge .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yep .
  Industrial Designer: A bit like uh a bit like your mobile phone .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Maybe you can show it . It also has the those {vocalsound} two distinct uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Tada .
  Industrial Designer: Mm bit like this .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh it's uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah ,
  Project Manager: What ? {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Ah .
  Industrial Designer: That uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So round where ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Maybe a nice touch , yeah .
  Marketing: So uh a little corner of titanium . We can't uh take a blank one .
  User Interface: Yeah , that's nice finishing touch you need .
  Project Manager: Oh , yeah .
  Marketing: Or can we ?
  Project Manager: Yes , {gap} that also sounds uh pretty uh neat .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: So this this is the exchangeable part .
  Industrial Designer: I think I'm going to buy it .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} We want it .
  User Interface: Yeah , this is the front .
  Project Manager: And it's only f twenty five Euros .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Come on .
  Industrial Designer: That's a bit too much , but {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: No that's nothing .
  Industrial Designer: No , no no no , but {vocalsound} I think uh this looks uh pretty nice actually .
  Project Manager: The Phillips remote uh costs more . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Of course , because it's my design but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Right .
  User Interface: My design . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No our d our design , alright .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Taking all the credit . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well uh you two are going to work together . You'll get your uh specifications on your uh laptop , and then uh {vocalsound} you uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah . We'll stay here I guess ?
  Marketing: But there's a problem .
  Project Manager: Well I think we can , I just {gap} {disfmarker} It's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: It's not relaxing .
  User Interface: Well we can uh erase an animal I guess . Uh the fourth one .
  Marketing: Yeah . Nah that's alright , that's alright .
  Industrial Designer: But don't erase my cat .
  Project Manager: Yeah , o
  User Interface: Uh the fourth one is empty , isn't it ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Oh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I want to preserve it .
  Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {gap}
  Marketing: {gap} This one is empty .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: You have to empty one huh ?
  Project Manager: Oh , we have a {gap} one . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: What are you doing chief ?
  Project Manager: So , you can uh draw a {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Marketing: Alright .
  User Interface: Yeah I think we have to wait ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah
  Project Manager: Well I'll get a {disfmarker} I'll get the message .
  Industrial Designer: until the until the beep goes .
  Marketing: No {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But I don't uh {disfmarker} Do we have to stay here ,
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: No , I think uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: or I think we have to return first .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Well you'll {disfmarker} Maybe you can uh keep your uh laptop here . {gap}
  User Interface: Maybe .
  Project Manager: Or get your mouse . Because it's little bit uh hard to work with these uh plates .
  Industrial Designer: The high powers from above {vocalsound} will have to tell us , yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: I always have a mouse next to my laptop .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Dream on . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I hate these {disfmarker}
  Marketing: I I don't have a laptop .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , touch-pads , yeah .
  Project Manager: Ugh .
  Industrial Designer: We can uh do a touch-pad on our remote .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah right .
  User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No just kidding . Well we have uh b you have to have a bit of humour in the in the discussions too ,
  Marketing: You just have to push harder .
  Industrial Designer: because it becomes too too too too stressy .
  Project Manager: And in your remote control . So we put a touch pad on it , and say ha ha .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Aha . This has no function . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Half
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: We know you'll you'll you'll hate it but {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: But uh th youth doesn't care about functio functionality , so {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No .
  Project Manager: But they do want some gadgets . So that's wha what we're doing .
  Marketing: It's all about cool things .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: And it will sell .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: We will be rich .
  Industrial Designer: Bless you . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well we won't . Our bosses will be rich .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  User Interface: We've done too much in the previous meetings .
  Industrial Designer: Too much ?
  User Interface: Yes , we've got nothing to do now . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well , that's not bad , is it ?
  Industrial Designer: Well they uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No .
  Industrial Designer: I think that's good . We all had uh our talk and we agree I guess on uh several thing , on most uh on things .
  Project Manager: Mm .
  User Interface: Its the best remote ever .
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Pinball .
  Project Manager: Oh {gap} . Oh he's totally off again . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No man .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah you have to push harder . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But when I start here , it's here .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: So is it {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yes , but you you get really close to the screen with your hand ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: and I don't think that's {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Mm .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Project Manager: Nope .
  Marketing: Recalibrate it .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Where's the good old chalk board with the the green board with the , how do you call it , chalk , yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: We can better uh draw a design on this . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , maybe .
  User Interface: Yeah , but we can't .
  Industrial Designer: Maybe if i if that thing is recalibrated , we can draw a thing quick , and then before it uh {vocalsound} goes off again .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Let's go .
  User Interface: Well {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Finish meeting now .
  Project Manager: Finish the meeting now . Alright now we know what to do , so
  User Interface: We'll stay here ?
  Project Manager: Um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah . Oh .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Message ?
  User Interface: Or we'll get the email .
  Industrial Designer: Maybe w maybe we maybe w m Can we get email here ?
  Project Manager: No , get away . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Huh ? Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Guess so .
  Project Manager: Um I I'm not sure . Maybe you {disfmarker} Yeah . Well you'll have to work on this one .
  User Interface: Well we'll wait a few seconds
  Project Manager: Yeah . That's a good idea .
  User Interface: and then we'll get an email .
  Marketing: Alright . Have fun lads .
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} A happy hol happy holidays . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Good luck . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} but you can scratch it off or something . It's better if you have it uh {disfmarker}
input_prefix: What does the group discuss on the problem of dust in the control?
output: Marketing thinks that if they don't have a bit of titanium between the two fronts, users may get problems with the LCD screen, like some dust in it — because people have always all kinds of filth between the mobile, when people exchange all the fronts, the control is open. And the group decides to have a bit of titanium in between, and with the curved edge.