input: Project Manager: Uh fourth meeting . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: We have to do what ?
  Project Manager: Some extra deciding .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} W what ? Alri alright . We'll see .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Oh .
  Project Manager: {gap} I'll show you the notes again . Very interesting .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well you'll you two will uh present us your prototype .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Then um {disfmarker} I guess that's your bit ? I I didn't s see anything about it ,
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: so {vocalsound} I already uh thought you uh you were {gap} to do that .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So the you're uh {gap} .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I'll show you how we're going to do with financing this uh design .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , that's important too . Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: And then we'll evaluate , after after we have redesigned it .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Bit late . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Because uh well we'll see about the costs . Um we'll uh evaluate our p our uh production and then uh we can close .
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Project Manager: Well the finance uh we'll do later , so um firstly uh {vocalsound} I'll show you the notes . {vocalsound} I don't think it's very interesting . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: I think it is .
  Project Manager: Oh nei . Uh no . {vocalsound} Alright . This is copy paste . So {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: From me of course , yeah .
  Project Manager: Of course . You had some very strange layout .
  Industrial Designer: Well from us all , yeah , from all of us . Yeah . {vocalsound} It's a nice chorus , yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well um {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: We ge we went through the agenda ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: and well we had some uh some presentations from you three . And uh I summarised what you said to us . So uh I don't think it's very interesting and go through it again .
  Industrial Designer: Repeat it yeah . Alright .
  Project Manager: So uh {disfmarker} This is what we decided . It's also copy paste from what we made together . So we still know that .
  Marketing: Okay .
  Project Manager: And then uh we can we can uh use the time better . Well uh next you two will uh present uh the pot prototype for us .
  Industrial Designer: Alright , we both uh will ?
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Or one of us will ?
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Alright .
  Industrial Designer: Uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No you go and I'll uh supplement you .
  Industrial Designer: Alright . If I make mistakes uh you'll uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: Correct . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Right . Uh well this is our design .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Uh it's pretty uh much uh like uh Mike draw uh drew uh the in the during the last meeting . With uh the different uh perspectives of it . Uh we'll begin uh with the front . We have of course uh the the round shape uh the round uh basic shape . Um with uh the upper part being the front . Th So there's this part um {vocalsound} which is made of hard plastic , the front . And uh we're we're using different colours . Of course for the launch we use the basic ugly colours ,
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: and later we'll put out uh more interesting covers with different patterns and pictures and everything .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: But basically , different colours , bright colours not black , too dark . Fancy colours . {vocalsound} Um then we have uh the lower part {vocalsound} of the of the device . Uh which is of course um part of the back actually , because it's also titanium . You can see it also on the on the on the side view , that only this part is the front , and the rest of it , the under uh the under side uh of it , yeah , the back side and the lower part of the front is of course titanium made of titanium , and has the titanium colour of course , the look . Um then we have uh on back on the front uh the logo in the upper corner ,
  Project Manager: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: uh which is uh made uh which is also part of the back , part of the titanium uh titanium part .
  User Interface: Yeah , it's a double R_ , but {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ?
  User Interface: It's a double R_ .
  Industrial Designer: It's a double R_ . Yeah the logo {disfmarker}
  User Interface: But {vocalsound} it's very difficult to to draw that in {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah , alright .
  Industrial Designer: Uh uh it's difficult to draw so small , but it's our double R_ uh logo is in there .
  Project Manager: Okay . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Um so that's the logo in the upper lef uh right corner . Then we have the buttons . Uh it's difficult to draw again the little oval or round {disfmarker} I think oval will be better for the for the d for the different uh channel buttons .
  User Interface: Oval yeah .
  Project Manager: Alright .
  Industrial Designer: So {gap} uh oval , n those are here . And then we have the m The m
  User Interface: Channel up and volume ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah the the con the the the , yeah , the t volume and the channel controls uh in the middle here . Um um with kind of arrow shapes , which makes it also a bit more exciting than basic round or um uh {vocalsound} uh square buttons . And also here are the two uh buttons we agreed on . We have the Okay button . Oh nei we uh the Okay button's here in the middle of the of the operators , of the channel and uh volume um changers .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: And then we've here the Menu button and the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Alright .
  User Interface: Menu for the L_C_D_ screen .
  Industrial Designer: And the video button . The {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Mm right .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . And of course this low part , this is the L_C_D_ screen .
  Project Manager: 'Kay .
  Industrial Designer: Uh this is what we made of it . You can make uh suggestions uh if you want .
  Project Manager: Well if I look at it , the side the side view {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Well , at the back {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Maybe we maybe we should finish first uh our talk
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: and then you can add suggestions .
  Project Manager: Oh yeah alright . Yeah {gap} .
  Industrial Designer: Maybe I I don't want to {disfmarker} {vocalsound} I don't want to suppress you but n I'll uh finish this uh quick .
  Project Manager: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: Um okay I've had everything I guess on the front ?
  User Interface: No the back . With the logo and our uh l uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah the back . Yeah . {vocalsound} We thought about {disfmarker} Yeah , uh the back is of course totally titanium . {vocalsound} And we thought about the logo big in the middle .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: Just so again the double R_ . We have then the logo on front and on the back .
  Marketing: Mm-hmm .
  Industrial Designer: Maybe that's too much
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: but you have to say uh say that if you think that way .
  User Interface: No I don't think {disfmarker} And the {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: And the company slogan , we thought in a kind of arc shape uh above the logo .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: That's basically what we were thinking about ,
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay .
  Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: W
  User Interface: And about the side view um {disfmarker} This the front won't be as thick ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: but again th the the drawing technique makes it very difficult to to really uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well I see , but {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Oh and uh before I forget . Yeah the the voice , of course ,
  Project Manager: Well . Yeah I see it .
  Industrial Designer: the voice recorder is uh at the bottom .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: And you can record it uh using , yeah , the the the back of the f w device .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: When I look at uh when I look at this side view , I think w when I have that in my hand , it's terrible .
  User Interface: Well , it won't be visible . Mm ?
  Project Manager: If if you look if if this this is thick , and this is thin , th th then it that it lies over your hands . But {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Why ? {vocalsound} Well it fits uh it it it it fits the hand , {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: mean uh the the the the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well what what what I what I agree is that when uh when um you have such of uh an arc in the middle , so that the the a the ends and the fronts is a bit thicker , so th then it falls over your hands .
  Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
  User Interface: {gap} If y {vocalsound} If you handle a remote , you you usually don't have your hand straight like this .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} In the middle in the {disfmarker}
  User Interface: You you have it a bit uh {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Marketing: It depends on the size . If it's kinda small , this is is great . But if it's it's larger , then you want to grab it .
  Project Manager: And how large is it ?
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah , that's the question .
  Industrial Designer: That's the question .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Uh well {disfmarker} Yeah . H What do you suggest I mean we do ? {gap} This was Mike's prototype ,
  Project Manager: Well uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: and y you seemed to agreed on it .
  Project Manager: Well the sides I haven't seen yet , uh {gap} ?
  Industrial Designer: But now you have a totally different {gap} .
  User Interface: Well , they lay there all the time .
  Industrial Designer: The size ? Yeah well the size doesn't really matter w I mean {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: They the the the the the side view ,
  Industrial Designer: Side ? Uh oh the side ?
  Project Manager: we didn't uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: W we we he drew the s the side ,
  User Interface: Yeah yeah .
  Industrial Designer: but you d you weren't paying attention as usual .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well any case , we'll discuss it now . Uh I think uh this is a pretty good uh good idea {gap} .
  Marketing: Yeah , I agree with the L_C_D_ screen . You have it in your palm like this , and you can watch uh watch the screen . And if you have it li in the middle , your hand might be over it .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But you you hold it like this .
  User Interface: Yeah you you don't you don't grab it ,
  Industrial Designer: You're not holding it like this or something .
  User Interface: you you {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: You , yeah , y How do you call it ? Yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well y y y you don't have it like this .
  Project Manager: No no no .
  Industrial Designer: You have it more like this .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {gap} You you you're using buttons this way , or if you're right-handed , this way .
  Marketing: Like you're holding your telephone .
  Project Manager: Yep .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: So you {disfmarker} Yeah . So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Because if you have a screen on it , you wanna look at your screen .
  User Interface: Hmm . That way , it it falls into your hand . I think . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah well {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: And maybe you can you can grab it a bit higher ,
  Marketing: Yeah , I agree on this .
  Industrial Designer: so {disfmarker} Well {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: No , I don't think so . That's not uh the point {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No but but {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Well the the {disfmarker} Well that's a reason to to to put the L_C_D_ screen uh of course on the upper side , but {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Well f for as far as I can see , three of us agree
  Project Manager: Yeah well
  User Interface: and only Nils {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: uh I think uh if you t if you three uh agree then then that's it .
  User Interface: But you're the Project Manager , you can make the hard decisions . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yes . So uh I c I c
  Industrial Designer: If necessary .
  Project Manager: Well , we'll we we'll do it like this .
  Industrial Designer: But uh are d Can you live with it ? Uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Alright , if you think that that's the way it should {gap} {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah ?
  Industrial Designer: Y Yeah , y y y y you said it was totally uh unusable .
  Project Manager: No {disfmarker} No ,
  Industrial Designer: But do you
  Project Manager: when I I my personal taste is that I want it to fall over my hands with a thick {disfmarker} But {disfmarker} In the market uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: But d you don't think this is completely unusable I guess . I think .
  Project Manager: No not totally .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Not totally , well {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} For me , I I wouldn't buy it . Let's say it like that .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah but of course y you are also human . We have to take uh {vocalsound} every everyone into account . So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: No {gap} {disfmarker}
  Marketing: And you might be uh {disfmarker} You might be target customer .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yes but {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Well uh who who else thinks like you ?
  User Interface: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: We don't know .
  Project Manager: Yeah , we don't know ,
  Industrial Designer: Maybe a thousand people ,
  Project Manager: but that's uh that's that's that's more market research .
  Industrial Designer: or a million people .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So {vocalsound} let it be like this at uh at this moment .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Let it be .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay ?
  Industrial Designer: Alright . So that's that .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Uh any other suggestions ?
  Project Manager: No , I think it's great .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: But what about the redesigning ?
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Comes to that later .
  User Interface: Okay . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um you . Uh c You can uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Walter . {vocalsound} You can do the evaluation uh criteria on this ?
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You're very personal again .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright . Great .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: That's more useful than just {vocalsound} speaking .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Well , this is just a short intro .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Marketing: I'm going to do uh the ev evaluation . That's gonna be done at the end of seven point skill criteria .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So I made a {disfmarker} I made a few questions on the hand of uh uh the impor most important requirements and trends .
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: And we have to look if our uh if our device uh is working correctly . Well , I put some questions in a Word file . See if I can find them . Uh uh uh uh mm .
  Project Manager: 'Kay .
  Marketing: Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Marketing: I uh think you have all seen uh this kind of evaluation , so uh I don't have to explain it . Uh the first question is , uh is the device good-looking ? Because normal p uh most people thought that um earlier devices were ugly ugly . Seventy five percent of them . So what do we think ?
  Industrial Designer: Well d we designed it , so of course we are very {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Mm .
  Project Manager: Yeah , we're we're not quite uh objective about this .
  Marketing: Yeah {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Well we designed it to be good-looking .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: No , I know , but {vocalsound} I have to uh evaluate it . So I have to take this questionnaire .
  Project Manager: To the customers ?
  Industrial Designer: So and we ha we have answer now ?
  Project Manager: To potential customers who have to take this questionnaire ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . {gap}
  Marketing: Yeah {vocalsound} {disfmarker} Yeah , but I can't can s
  Project Manager: Nei . Oh no . I know , I know , I know .
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Project Manager: But um {disfmarker} Well {vocalsound} we can go , uh because of the time , uh pretty quick through this . Uh do we find it good-looking ? Well we think so . Uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah . We designed it to be good-looking , so {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I {disfmarker} Yeah , I think it {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah , but uh , you know {disfmarker} We dis we di {vocalsound} we designed it to be perfect .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So {vocalsound} {disfmarker} But we have to be critic critical about it . And I have to uh take all these points and get a average at the end . So we {vocalsound} we know where we stand .
  Project Manager: Well , one .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: 'Cause th there are some things we might have uh bi might have forgotten .
  Project Manager: Well so it's point four . Easy to find t
  Industrial Designer: Well l well let's start with the beginning , just one by one . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Right , so {disfmarker} Right . Uh is it good-looking ?
  Industrial Designer: Well , I guess uh I think uh {vocalsound} it's uh it's it's um pointed towards the youth of course , uh if you look at the design and and the colours and everything . {gap}
  Project Manager: Two . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: That was our target audience of course . But it's also not completely um {vocalsound} uh u unacceptable for older people I guess . Uh it's it's not f a device that {disfmarker}
  Marketing: The titanium might be uh f for older people .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , that's that's uh for older people , it's it's more that classical look . So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: It you put uh put a black front on it or something .
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Industrial Designer: Uh no . {vocalsound} I think {disfmarker} Yeah they like black of course , but I think they'll uh they they think uh the the titanium look of it is also {disfmarker} Uh I think it's also good for them , so I think we both uh have uh consider considered uh the youth and also a bit older people . So I think it's very good-looking
  Marketing: Right .
  Industrial Designer: and not only for youth uh young people .
  User Interface: I think we shouldn't discuss any points points that long , because I don't know how how many points there are but uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: No . I totally agree .
  Marketing: Right .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , the fourteen yeah .
  Project Manager: We we have to get get on , go through this .
  Marketing: Right , a number please .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Is it easy to t change channels ? Yeah well I think so .
  Marketing: So the last one is seven .
  User Interface: Um , no it's uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Easy to change channels ?
  Project Manager: No , not false . It's one .
  Marketing: Oh , sorry .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah , right .
  Project Manager: Well uh two ? Y Well we have to go through it {gap} .
  Marketing: Change channels ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I think it's uh as easy as uh can be made . Uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Right .
  Industrial Designer: So I {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yeah . You {disfmarker} How can you make it any easier ? {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} With two huge buttons .
  Marketing: The power , channel and volume buttons are easy accessible ?
  Project Manager: Yep .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , huge is a {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Project Manager: Two .
  Marketing: Two ? Alright . The uh device is easy to find if you lose it ?
  Project Manager: Well , no . We didn't implement anything about that . {gap}
  Industrial Designer: D we d we don't we don't have uh that s
  User Interface: Well it's easier to find than a a normal black one or something ,
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well six then . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: because of the colour . But {disfmarker} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . Six ? Right .
  Industrial Designer: Well we don't have the device that beeps uh when you lost it or so ,
  Project Manager: Are the functions easy to learn ?
  Industrial Designer: but um um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well w I we do want we have a l f f less of an {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {gap} We have so few functions , so {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
  Project Manager: And the device R_S_I_ sensitive ?
  User Interface: Well , I should {disfmarker} I think two ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: because {vocalsound} the voice recorder is n not self learning . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Ah .
  Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
  Project Manager: {gap}
  Marketing: Alright . Two ?
  Industrial Designer: Mm ?
  Project Manager: Yeah , but just do some {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {gap} We we {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} I th I th I think this is too time consuming .
  Industrial Designer: Are we take too much time ?
  Project Manager: Uh not not towards you ,
  Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
  Project Manager: but towards this all .
  Marketing: No .
  Project Manager: Th this is {gap} {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: We you have to put it to the customers .
  Marketing: Right , R_ R_S_I_ sensitive ? {vocalsound} R_S_I_ sensitive ?
  Project Manager: Uh well well a bit , so four .
  Marketing: Four . Um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yes .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , very much . One .
  Project Manager: One . And features included also one . And {disfmarker} {vocalsound} One .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh those uh nine uh is the fancy-looking . Uh we still think so .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Device fancy feeling .
  Industrial Designer: And I think fancy-feeling too ,
  Project Manager: Yeah , cool man .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: because of the titanium back . Yeah .
  Marketing: Right .
  Project Manager: Are there enough technology ? Yeah well also we have two .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , that's great .
  Project Manager: Is the device easy to use ?
  User Interface: The {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yes we have {vocalsound} not many buttons .
  Industrial Designer: So well maybe two
  Project Manager: Two , three .
  User Interface: Two {vocalsound} two .
  Industrial Designer: because of the voice recorder .
  Marketing: Well , with the uh {disfmarker} Three .
  Project Manager: Are the trends about fruit and vegetables implemented ?
  User Interface: T
  Industrial Designer: F
  Project Manager: Well in our covers , in our fronts .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: So yes , one .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . One or two . Yeah .
  User Interface: One or two , another two .
  Marketing: Nah f four I think .
  Industrial Designer: Four ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound} If you look at this {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well , it doesn't really resemble any fruit , uh that's true .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But but we have the the the the the sparkly fruity colours of course .
  Marketing: No .
  Project Manager: Oh okay . Okay {gap} .
  User Interface: Well three .
  Marketing: Three , alright .
  Industrial Designer: And you can also have {gap} front with uh with fruit on it . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah , that's true .
  Project Manager: Is the material attractive ?
  Marketing: But {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Mm . Yeah .
  Project Manager: Well the titanium is strong , and uh the rest f uh the buttons feel soft . So I would say at least two .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Right .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well {disfmarker} Yeah .
  User Interface: This is the last meeting ?
  Project Manager: Yes , but we we have to design much more ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: The average will uh come later .
  Project Manager: because there was some irritating account manager coming to me . {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I knew things uh were going uh too smoothly .
  Project Manager: Oh . Uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: There had to be some kind of trouble along the way .
  User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yes . Well , look at the costs at this point .
  Industrial Designer: My god .
  Project Manager: I had to fit it in .
  Marketing: It has to go to twelve , right ?
  Project Manager: I twelve and a half .
  Marketing: Twelve and a half .
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker} Well what costs a lot ? The sample spea costs four .
  Industrial Designer: The what ?
  Project Manager: The sample speaker ,
  Industrial Designer: The {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Out .
  Project Manager: the s sensor .
  Marketing: That's easy . Kick it out .
  Project Manager: Kick it out .
  User Interface: The what ?
  Project Manager: We have to go to twelve and a half .
  Marketing: Yeah . The speaker .
  Project Manager: The speaker costs far , by far the most .
  User Interface: Oh .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah w tha that's uh that's a bit an optional option .
  Marketing: That's some wrong info , man . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: It it isn't worth it .
  Industrial Designer: No . No , d th No .
  Marketing: No .
  Project Manager: We could make two different versions , one with and one without .
  Marketing: It's uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: But for this {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: It's just extra . Kick it out .
  Project Manager: So , zero .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Then we go to fourteen point six .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Well the titanium I don't want to lose actually .
  Marketing: What more ?
  Industrial Designer: No .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Batteries are uh quite {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: L_C_ three ? Yeah hand dynamo ? Y t come on ,
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Uh no , no no no .
  Project Manager: w a remote control has a battery .
  User Interface: Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: N Uh well we have a bit of a problem I think .
  User Interface: Well well why why why should we use a advanced chip ?
  Industrial Designer: Because uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well be for the L_C_D_ uh you had said .
  Industrial Designer: {gap} the L_C_D_ screen . Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah ?
  Marketing: Hmm .
  User Interface: Can't we do that with a regular chip ?
  Industrial Designer: No .
  User Interface: Why not ?
  Industrial Designer: Because uh that uh y {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well what what's the difference between simple and regular ?
  Industrial Designer: because my information says it .
  Project Manager: What's the difference between a simple and a regular chip ?
  Industrial Designer: Huh ?
  User Interface: Yeah . Regular is normal .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: And simple ?
  Industrial Designer: Uh well yeah I I read something about it , but {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Simple .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Nothing .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Elementary .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well {gap} ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah ,
  Project Manager: Your part .
  Industrial Designer: I I read something about it , but it wasn't very clear . I d I didn't in include it in my report .
  Project Manager: What happens if we do {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Single {disfmarker} Well you have to use a chip . So {disfmarker} Well you have to use the advanced chip , if you have the L_C_D_ screen .
  Project Manager: How much do we win ? One .
  User Interface: We we we {disfmarker} Why ?
  Project Manager: {gap}
  User Interface: We have very little options furthermore , for the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: But if you have a regular chip , you can't have the L_C_D_ screen .
  User Interface: Uh well we have to put that in .
  Marketing: Yeah , we need to have the {vocalsound} the L_C_D_ screen .
  Industrial Designer: That that's a fact . Uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well , we could say , well this special colour , that isn't that that isn't there ,
  Marketing: No {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: because the the fronts they will buy it . The special colour .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but it's only one half .
  Marketing: Yeah , but {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Nah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh it d it doesn't {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No , that's n It's not relevant .
  Project Manager: Yeah ,
  User Interface: Yeah , you must change the chip uh back .
  Project Manager: then you s then you only have one half left .
  User Interface: You must change the chip back , Nils .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh yeah .
  Industrial Designer: But we d Then we have to lose the L_C_D_ screen .
  Marketing: No , {vocalsound} {disfmarker} Then the whole concept is uh
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I know but that's what my information says . I di I didn't uh put uh the advanced chip in there for fun . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Hmm . {vocalsound} No {vocalsound} we oh {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Marketing: You {disfmarker} You can make you can make it cheaper .
  Industrial Designer: You have to use it .
  Marketing: But if you don't sell
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: You you we have an advanced chip-on-print ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: and we have an L_C_ display . I think that's a bit double .
  Project Manager: Yeah ? No , {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Y we don't need both .
  Project Manager: the advanced chip is needed to have an L_C_D_ display .
  Industrial Designer: For the L_C_D_ screen . Yeah . Yeah .
  User Interface: Says {gap} .
  Project Manager: Says , his {disfmarker} Uh that was in the second meeting , I think .
  Industrial Designer: Well uh and what do they mean with curves uh again ? Because we you have uncurved {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well I I did single curve to {disfmarker} Well you said s double curved ,
  User Interface: I ?
  Project Manager: uh he ,
  User Interface: {gap} ?
  Project Manager: because uh I thought it's a b a bit cheaper already .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: We can also make it flat .
  Industrial Designer: Well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {gap} No
  Industrial Designer: But what what did what do n
  Marketing: no no no .
  Project Manager: But {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Sorry , but {disfmarker} {vocalsound} What do they mean with the curves ?
  Project Manager: Curved ?
  Industrial Designer: Is th Is this a curve ?
  Project Manager: Yes , that's curved .
  Industrial Designer: One curve ?
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , this is actually two curves , yeah .
  Project Manager: No , it's one curve .
  Industrial Designer: It's how you {disfmarker} It's how you look at it .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} One curve . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: One curve , simple .
  Industrial Designer: Well then we have a huge problem I think .
  Marketing: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: W t we can never get uh below the twelve and a half .
  Project Manager: We have a big financial problem .
  User Interface: Well we make it more expensive to buy .
  Project Manager: Well , then we have two dollars less profit . Come on , if we if we if we make this fifty million , they won't hesitate to uh congratulate us , so uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} {gap}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: If if you make people brand-aware , they are willing to pay more . But {disfmarker} Because we we use a brand at the front and uh I dun at the back . If you have uh lots of uh marketing people might buy .
  Industrial Designer: But uh I {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah or we could replace it {disfmarker}
  Marketing: If you if you make it cool to have {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: By the way , we also have this one .
  Marketing: Oh , that's just great .
  Project Manager: Oh , costs nothing . That's nice . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Oh , alright . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Hey but uh I think you'll agree that uh that we that now we have this uh screen , it's it's very uh not practical to ha to consider this after we have designed the entire thing .
  Project Manager: Plastic is {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yes , but I just got it .
  Marketing: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Well that's pretty uh l
  User Interface: Why why don't we replace the titanium with uh plastic coloured titanium ,
  Marketing: That is pretty stupid . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: N not very practical . {vocalsound} Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: uh titanium-coloured plastic ?
  Project Manager: Who ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: You want to dump the titanium ?
  User Interface: Yeah well if we uh we we have to get cheaper .
  Project Manager: And make all plastic , then we ha then we're there .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But I'm n I don't agree .
  User Interface: But then we we've got to uh run through the eval evaluation process again .
  Industrial Designer: I think {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Th then you have a ugly , stupid , l ugly looking , dumb remote that that no-one would buy .
  User Interface: Ah no no .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: It's not ugly looking . The looks remain the same .
  Project Manager: No , I don't think so .
  User Interface: Well , I do think so .
  Industrial Designer: I think the titanium just uh provided the the tough look and the and the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Y
  Project Manager: Yes . And the feel ,
  User Interface: {gap} feel .
  Project Manager: and th that it is strong , and {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: And also the the older people will like it because of that . And because i
  Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
  Industrial Designer: Alright it's not our target audience , but it's it's useful if it's uh important for old people .
  Project Manager: We still {vocalsound} we had to focus to get more people from the younger group ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: but not lose the one {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I think the titanium is very important .
  User Interface: Yeah alright but then we we won't get there .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah we have a problem , yeah . W But you can better , yeah , dump the L_C_D_ screen then .
  User Interface: We can dump the special colour . We l we use plastic . And plastic is already in colour I think .
  Marketing: I don't think you should dump the L_C_D_ screen .
  Industrial Designer: Well what else ?
  User Interface: No , nothing .
  Industrial Designer: W I mean uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Or you shou {vocalsound} It's {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Amen .
  Marketing: Or change the titanium or dump the L_C_D_ screen . But I think you could better change uh titanium to hard a hard kind of plastic looking like titanium than lose the L_C_D_ screen .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: Because you have lots of functions {vocalsound} in it too .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , well yeah . Alright .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Why can't I {disfmarker}
  User Interface: But {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I agree with that . So we u we use uh {disfmarker} Unfortunately . Um . Titanium-coloured plastic .
  Project Manager: I'll put in the report we that we think that fourteen point one is the l m lowest price you can make a remote for that's trendy d these days .
  Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
  Industrial Designer: So titanium-coloured plastic for the back .
  Project Manager: I I'll talk to the managers . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: No no no no . W Titanium stays there .
  Project Manager: Titanium , I thi I think this this is this is e really good re remote . But {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah this is good ,
  Marketing: Osl {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: but it it's not good enough . {vocalsound} So we have to use the ditch the titanium , I'm afraid .
  Project Manager: Ah those {gap} those account managers , what do th d what do they know ?
  User Interface: Well {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Come on . Riot . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: What do we {disfmarker} Well what do we know ? All we want is a is a fancy design but we don't really consider the costs . So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yes , yes .
  User Interface: No because we did not know anything about it .
  Project Manager: One and a half Euros . Hmm ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah al alright , yeah .
  Marketing: If you don't have the money , you can't make it .
  Industrial Designer: But we have to deal with it now . So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: So s If you don't have the money , you can't make it . So this is too expensive .
  Project Manager: So ?
  Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: So we have to make it cheaper .
  Industrial Designer: Titanium gone and add plastic .
  User Interface: Yeah , but then we've got money left .
  Marketing: Right .
  Industrial Designer: And on plastic times two and then we uh are there ?
  Project Manager: Well , no it's just uh all plastic .
  Industrial Designer: No {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well alright . Huh .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No yeah well {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Oh six . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} It's just free , man .
  Industrial Designer: A lot of plastic , yeah . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Four . So {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: No two for the to make it clear .
  Project Manager: But then we can add the special colour ? As we have money over uh left . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: And we still have money left .
  User Interface: Yeah . W
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: What do we want , guys ?
  Industrial Designer: I want gold plating .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No no um {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah right . I want chrome . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well I think uh the case is double curved then .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  User Interface: Because you y have that curve
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} We have we have to uh fill {disfmarker}
  User Interface: and you have that curve .
  Project Manager: Y Oh no . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Well , th that that is the problem .
  User Interface: Yeah well uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: W we ha {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Alright .
  Industrial Designer: No no no , but th that's not f um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Safe .
  User Interface: Well y we have curves in all directions .
  Industrial Designer: Well you can you can double curve , if you don't have titanium . And that we dropped ,
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker} alright .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: so it it can be done . {vocalsound} But it's pretty funny . We we do want to reach twelve point five . But it isn't bad to to to stay at eleven .
  Project Manager: Finance ?
  User Interface: I mean , this this ain't titanium , but it looks like it .
  Project Manager: Well , guys ?
  Industrial Designer: We get more salary , if we make if cheaper than twelve uh twelve and a half .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: Guys ?
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: We have to dump our titanium ,
  Marketing: Shoot .
  Project Manager: and we'll hate the managers for that , but now we're going to evaluate our project , of uh project ,
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Objection .
  User Interface: Pro project . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} project . {vocalsound} Well , {vocalsound} satisfaction on for example , are we satisfactory about our creativity ?
  Industrial Designer: Well I can't get no satisfaction , but uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: I think it's uh {disfmarker} Well in in if we consider the costs then this is the best , yeah .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I think it's terrible that we got uh those costs at the last moment .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah , me too .
  Project Manager: That's really bad . But that that that's that , yeah that's a reason ,
  Industrial Designer: Its it's uh ridiculous actually , but {disfmarker}
  User Interface: And uh unrealistic .
  Project Manager: but also for our creativity . We had um nice design , and then you get the cost , and you had to dump all your creativity .
  User Interface: Well we we we used our creativity ,
  Marketing: Right .
  User Interface: but we just had to adapt it to the costs .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Which isn't very practical ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Nei . Uh no . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: but {vocalsound} that's the way .
  Project Manager: Well , alright .
  Industrial Designer: Uh-huh . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh leadership next .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Terrible . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh teamwork ? {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Leadership .
  User Interface: Leadership ? Well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Well it's {vocalsound} {disfmarker} It was very democratic . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh yeah well {vocalsound} I think so also .
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
  Project Manager: I al I I've uh filled that in in a the questionnaires uh each time , so {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well the managers were terrible . So , with their all their useless requirements .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But o alright , the teamwork ?
  Industrial Designer: Well uh they they didn't think of the requirements .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: It's the requirements of the user , uh I guess .
  Project Manager: No they said , oh we won't d uh we won't uh use teletext , uh we won't use the D_V_D_ . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . Yeah but they base that on on the user specifications .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Alright , teamwork ? Well great I think .
  Marketing: Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Right yeah . {gap}
  Marketing: Yeah , think so too .
  Project Manager: Uh well what do you , what did you think about the SMARTboard ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} It was a complete disaster .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , I don't like it . Yeah ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No {disfmarker} Uh it it it uh it is uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No , that's a SMARTboard , and that's a digital pen .
  Project Manager: It's also a It's both the SMARTboards .
  User Interface: Or not ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No it's other way around . That's the SMARTboard .
  Project Manager: I liked this SMARTboard ,
  Industrial Designer: That's the digital panel .
  Project Manager: but I hated that one .
  Marketing: This this this isn't a SMARTboard , right ?
  Project Manager: Well it's both a SMARTboard .
  Industrial Designer: That's that's the smart
  Marketing: Yeah right . B but you {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Oh they're both SMARTboards . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: This is just a large t large television .
  Project Manager: No .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} A televi Yeah .
  Marketing: You u you use the {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: It's both a SMARTboard , but this one is used for a desktop , and that one is used to to draw .
  Marketing: Yeah , but you ca This is just a beamer function . And here , on this one , you can uh draw the pictures and things like that . But {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well , wi w which one did you like ?
  User Interface: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . Left or right ? {vocalsound}
  Marketing: That one .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} That one . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} That one isn't accurate . {vocalsound} It just doesn't work .
  Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: But I I think this is meant by the digital pen .
  Marketing: You can {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yes . Th that is so .
  Industrial Designer: Well I didn't use uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah , but I think there's a big distinction between the {vocalsound} these th
  Project Manager: We're now talking about the SMARTboards .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: I don't need a SMARTboard .
  User Interface: {gap} Well we we used that one ,
  Industrial Designer: Nei It it's much m {vocalsound}
  User Interface: and we needed it . I think .
  Marketing: Yeah , but {vocalsound} give me a beamer . That's uh that's much uh much cheaper .
  User Interface: Yeah alright , but {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Or install a laptop to a beamer , or have this one standing here in an {disfmarker} I I like it .
  Marketing: Right .
  Project Manager: Okay , alright .
  User Interface: Yeah I like that one , but that one is terrible .
  Industrial Designer: But uh you can uh {disfmarker} I I sent it about three times now . Uh {vocalsound} a green uh board with uh chalk is much more useful than that thing .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah , it is .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: The simple uh sch school board .
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: I agree .
  Project Manager: And uh the digi the digital pen ? Did uh did you like that one ?
  Industrial Designer: I I didn't use it .
  Marketing: No .
  Industrial Designer: I wrote things down but I didn't import it into my laptop .
  Project Manager: I used it uh just to check it out , but uh {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} That's the {gap} {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: You you can't send that to anyone , because you you've scrabbled something on a page for yourself ,
  User Interface: {gap}
  Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} It isn't practical . Right .
  Project Manager: and then you're going to send it , yeah . Well , no .
  Industrial Designer: W {vocalsound} But also y you write things down . And i you can also bring your your your note block .
  Marketing: Your notepad . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: So what's the what's the th what's the point of importing it into {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: It's , no , it it's useless .
  User Interface: Well I I drew this . {gap} Mm . And I made a mistake . But it it would have been uh useful , if I I could show this on the screen .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah alright . For drawings ,
  Project Manager: For drawings , yes .
  User Interface: Yeah for drawings .
  Industrial Designer: but not for personal notes . I think that's not very {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {gap} N notes mm .
  Industrial Designer: Uh I mean {vocalsound} you can bring your paperwork along and p Well of course if you have a lot of paper {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: But {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah , it might be useful for drawings . I I agree on that .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: If you've {disfmarker} If you've {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But for notes , it i you you have to put that in a strict {disfmarker} Uh you have to put a name , standard date , and all those things . And notes uh for a meeting are very strict . So if you uh were to write them down for yourself , and then put that in your computer , you still have to type it over to Word .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So it doesn't d doesn't have any {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah , right .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah I understand .
  Marketing: That Stefan use .
  Industrial Designer: But I think uh d this option is only useful if you've got a lot of paperwork . {vocalsound} You can't {disfmarker} It's not very uh ni Yeah well a lot of documents are {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Marketing: No , I don't think so . It's it's only useful if you have to draw something .
  User Interface: Yeah . But then uh it's really useful , I think .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yep . Alright . Um etcetera ? Well uh the laptops ?
  Industrial Designer: Mu Yeah right .
  Project Manager: Of course great .
  Marketing: Yeah , great . Yeah . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah . Hmm .
  Industrial Designer: Can we keep them ? Uh .
  Project Manager: Yeah . You can .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: B by my {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Wireless uh wireless things .
  User Interface: Thanks Project Manager . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . Other uh things we used here ? I hated the cameras , I hated the microphones . But {disfmarker} {vocalsound} No {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Well these chairs , man . {vocalsound} Really great .
  Industrial Designer: Well did you really uh {disfmarker} Did you really take uh take those in account ? {vocalsound} I {vocalsound} half of time I didn't notice they were there . So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: No . No . I haven't looked w one time directly at the camera . {vocalsound} I don't care about it . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But we shouldn't talk about that .
  User Interface: Well I did .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Because {vocalsound} this is a realistic environment .
  Project Manager: Well w why not ? Uh etcetera {gap} {disfmarker} We {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} N new ideas found ?
  Industrial Designer: Right . Okay . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: What kind of ideas for n a future schedule {vocalsound} {disfmarker} What ? {vocalsound} For future um meetings {vocalsound} you have got ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well I missed uh the option to uh to email ,
  Marketing: Communicate in between .
  User Interface: yeah .
  Project Manager: Chatting and emailing .
  User Interface: Email or chat or something .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But yeah . W well th that's just the the environment they set us up f with . So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah , right . Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah alright , but that's one n new idea . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
  Project Manager: Well , new ideas found by this .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Not . Nothing .
  Marketing: Well , more more information in the beginning .
  Project Manager: We don't want this . We hate this .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: That's {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Digital pen is useless . So {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No it isn't .
  Project Manager: Yeah , for drawings .
  Industrial Designer: Well , for drawing for drawings . Yeah .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah . So it isn't useless .
  Project Manager: But uh two t But uh th then you have to have a lot of drawings , because if I had a company and I'm going to uh buy those expensive huge expensive uh things , I and I have to w pay those uh papers uh that are expensive , I'm not going to uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well {disfmarker} No {disfmarker}
  Marketing: For people who uh sketch th the whole day , I can imagine that it's useful .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well th then still they they they should have a a nice graphics programme on the laptop .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: But it's still an expensive uh expensive {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Because this is huge
  Marketing: Well {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: uh this v very very uh expensive paper .
  User Interface: Well you you can't you can't draw on a laptop like you like you paint of or draw with your hand .
  Marketing: Yeah , I agree .
  User Interface: With the mouse it is {disfmarker} No . {gap}
  Industrial Designer: But if w Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Well and if {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Mouse is ju just isn't working if you're sketching .
  User Interface: Uh indeed .
  Industrial Designer: And but what if uh maybe this this board uh SMARTboard is malfunctioning or someone . But suppose it was working correctly , what uh would it be useful then , if it wasn't off all the time ? {vocalsound} A
  Project Manager: Well no . I hated to draw like that . You you can't draw anything uh neat .
  Industrial Designer: Really ?
  Marketing: Yeah , but he's saying if it is correct , and you can draw very , {vocalsound} yeah , very precise {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Anything you want . Any b b Yeah . L li li
  Project Manager: I if it if it would be perfect following .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well th th then still it's it's it's very expensive uh towards a a just a green {gap} uh {gap} school board .
  Industrial Designer: Well it isn't , but maybe that thing is uh is {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah , mu
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , board , a school board , yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah , but but then you can uh save it in instantly , and and and re-use it , and uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yep .
  Industrial Designer: I it has {disfmarker} It is useful . Yeah .
  Marketing: It saves time .
  Project Manager: Yeah yeah .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: This uh if it works correct , maybe this thing this thing is just malfunctioning .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: So uh if we get in uh if we get another one and you make sure it does work ,
  Project Manager: Yep .
  Industrial Designer: I think then it's pretty useful .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Because uh yeah you can draw t things quickly and uh clearly for anyone uh in the discussion room .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: And then you can save it immediately .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well , they are now .
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Marketing: Celebration .
  Project Manager: It is . So , congratulations crew .
  Industrial Designer: Did you type that ?
  User Interface: Hmm . Celebration . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Se {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah , we can go to the bar and uh with our {vocalsound} newly earned money . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Well {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Finally my beer . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well , that's it I think .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: Um I don't know how long we still have . {vocalsound} I dunno how long uh we had for this last meeting . But uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Maybe till four o'clock or something ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well dunno . Yeah .
  Project Manager: Well yeah , it is a bit uh {disfmarker} Well we still have to make the end report and uh all those things . {gap} I have to do that .
  User Interface: {gap}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: I {disfmarker} Di did you um save this one in the folder ?
  Marketing: You better get started . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Oh .
  Project Manager: Can you do that ?
  User Interface: No . No no no no .
  Industrial Designer: No we must save this thing , yeah . In the shared map map .
  User Interface: But Nils you've got some work left . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I don't know what you have to do .
  Industrial Designer: Map , is it a good word ? The folder , yeah .
  Marketing: Huh .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: I have to go to a physiotherapy . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Oh it worked . Two times quick . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Wow . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Oh , alright . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Cool . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: So it is useful , yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound} It is handy .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} This is nice .
  Industrial Designer: No but uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Oh great , man .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I'm gonna buy one buy one for my bedroom .
  Industrial Designer: Radical . {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: D design .
  Industrial Designer: Do you believe it yourself ?
  Project Manager: S Oh . He saved them all ten . Well alright . Um {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Well they they wanted everything we produced , so {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: They also want to see my cat and his rabbit , and uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} My big bird . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Your big beautiful bird .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Where is this {gap} ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Maybe the pen is just uh uh broken and the board isn't .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Of or the other way around uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Maybe you are broken .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah I think so too .
  User Interface: I think you have we have to make clear to her that we are ready . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: You know . I think she's listening . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} I also think so . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Who is she you're talking about ?
  Project Manager: She already knows . She ? Big brother .
  Industrial Designer: Oh you mean our uh coach , our f personal coach .
  Project Manager: Our manager .
  Industrial Designer: Is she also our accountant ?
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Is she responsible for sending that information so late ? Oh .
  Project Manager: I don't think so .
  User Interface: Close your laptop .
  Industrial Designer: Because then we have to confront her with our {disfmarker}
  User Interface: So she can see we're ready .
  Marketing: I feel watched . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: We put the fashion in electronics ,
  User Interface: Yeah . Let's take this remote into uh production .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: but we couldn't because of the costs . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: That that's the title of our uh end document .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} {gap}
  Industrial Designer: That that's our new slogan .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah , I like that . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} We couldn't put the fashion into the electronics .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Blame our accountants .
  Marketing: Do that .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah , that's a nice title . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But we couldn't , yeah . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Very catching . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Oh .
  Industrial Designer: Well I th Yeah .
  Marketing: I'm sure management would like that . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: She's on the move .
  Project Manager: I'm going to resign after this project anyway , so {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Oh , that's just great .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
input_prefix: Summarize the Project Manager's perspective on the prototype.
output: The Project Manager thought the prototype was basically the same with the former one, and the thickness was not suitable for the target customers. Then the LCD screen might be covered when held by hands, so the users couldn't figure out what happened on the screen. Therefore from this perspective the screen was totally unusable, still needing marketing research.