input: Project Manager: Okay . Uh door is closed . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well , let's begin . Because if we have as much time as the last uh meeting , we'll have to hurry up .
  Marketing: I'm listening .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Right .
  Project Manager: Um well I'll start with the presentation again , the agenda .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Great .
  Project Manager: Yo . So . {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} This one I think .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Uh yeah . Well alright . Um well , I'll show you the notes . It's not as uh interesting as it should be because we just uh had the meeting ,
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: but I'll show them . We'll get your presentations again on the conceptual design . Um {disfmarker} Then we'll have to dec decide about the control , the remote control concepts . I've put a f uh a file in the project management folder , which says exactly uh what kind of decisions we should take .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: So {vocalsound} this time we exactly know what to decide about .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright , great .
  Project Manager: And then we'll close again .
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker} Well these are some examples , but we'll talk about them later . We'll {vocalsound} first look at your uh presentations . Alright ?
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: Walter will uh start again this time ?
  Marketing: Yeah , great .
  Project Manager: Yo .
  Marketing: Alright , Trendwatch .
  Project Manager: 'Kay .
  Marketing: {gap}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Right . I will speak about uh latest trends trends , latest fashion updates , and uh things we must not do .
  Project Manager: 'Kay .
  Marketing: Uh the trends . {vocalsound} It's very important that uh the control is fancy looking and good uh feeling . Uh this because of our last model was very functional , but {vocalsound} it uh people didn't like that , so our new mo model must be very good-looking . That's uh something you uh have to take a look at .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm . Alright .
  Marketing: And uh the feeling has to be very great . Also the menus and things like that they have to they have to feel great .
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Marketing: Um there's a minus uh two times here , because this is the most important point . This is uh two times as less important ,
  Project Manager: Less . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: and uh same for this one . {vocalsound} Um , technological technological innovations , that's uh regarded very highly too .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Uh such as an uh L_C_D_ screen , uh speech uh acknowledgement , as we uh talked about earlier .
  Project Manager: Well , yeah .
  Marketing: So we have to have uh something like that , like we uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: L_C_D_ and our uh our fronts .
  Marketing: Right . {vocalsound} Uh the last point is easy to use . Well I think that uh speaks for s for itself . I don't know who's uh who's going to look at that .
  Industrial Designer: Easy to use ?
  Project Manager: Well , easy to use uh s is a bit uh contradictionary with the first uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah ?
  Industrial Designer: I think that's your ta
  User Interface: {gap}
  Project Manager: Functional is not an issue , and then easy to use .
  Marketing: Yeah , I know .
  Project Manager: Well we have to choose one of them . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: I think we have to go for the first one .
  Project Manager: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: It's the most important one . So {gap} we have to uh take that one .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Marketing: So it it {vocalsound} it isn't very important that {vocalsound} that it works easy .
  User Interface: Well something fancy looking can be can be easy to use .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} But {vocalsound} it has to look great .
  Project Manager: Yeah . We'll we'll look at uh {gap} .
  Industrial Designer: You {disfmarker} Yeah . Yeah , yeah ,
  Marketing: We'll see . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: you can make a very complicated uh uh remote anyway , so ease of use {disfmarker} {vocalsound} It's not a very comp complicated device .
  Marketing: Yeah , right . But the most important thing is that it looks great and people say {gap} wow , that's real great uh great concept .
  Project Manager: 'Kay .
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Marketing: Alright . Uh these are the new colours of this year .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So it must be very bright , very colourful .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: People like this .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So we we have to think uh in this direction .
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: So i set your mind to it .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Findings ? Fashion update ? Fruit and vegetables are cool .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh you think ?
  Marketing: I am told . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: The group we are targeting is uh very pleased with fruit and vegetables .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So {vocalsound} we we we might cons consider in front of uh in in that sort of uh way .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah , well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Bananas .
  Marketing: Uh furthermore uh material , that's your part , should be very strong . I was thinking of something like uh {vocalsound} well uh iron plate over it ,
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: maybe in a colour or something ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: that looks so f really flashy but it it is also strong .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Project Manager: B
  Marketing: And that's uh also for the younger public .
  Project Manager: Well the the handy thing about our fronts is that we can follow these trends e ev every year . Th this year it's fruits but next year it's it's something totally different .
  Marketing: Yeah , that's great .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: But I think we can all make the the fronts of titanium or something uh really thin .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Marketing: So it looks very heavy but you can still uh use it very easily .
  Project Manager: Yep , alright .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: Well , the don'ts . Older people like dark colours and simple shapes . Well we don't want uh older people ,
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: we want young people .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {gap}
  Marketing: So uh we're gonna turn that around .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Marketing: We're gonna have real uh cool shapes and lots of colours . Right ?
  Project Manager: Wood is popular . Aha .
  Marketing: Okay . We don't want wood .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah yeah yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , among the old people , yeah .
  Marketing: Old people . So , that's it for me .
  Project Manager: Alright . Nice , uh well {gap} show us .
  Industrial Designer: Right , I am going to tell you something about the components design . Uh again I have uh put up the specification properties . This uh so um uh the different uh components of the of of the device . And the materials ? Um I have heard several things , so I uh I'll have to change that on the way . But uh the case ? Uh I suggested uh in the previous meeting hard plastic . But uh as you indicated uh it should be strong .
  Marketing: Yeah , we should change that .
  Industrial Designer: It should feel strong . So maybe plastic is not uh sufficient .
  Project Manager: Well maybe it it it is ,
  Industrial Designer: We should move to uh something {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: but it doesn't look strong . So maybe {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Well yeah . Y Hard plastic i is of course uh pretty pretty tough , but it doesn't have a really really tough look . So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No no no .
  Project Manager: But we still have to look at our price of course . Because uh if we want an L_C_D_ uh window etcetera uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Also {disfmarker} Yeah . Mm-hmm . But we'll return to that .
  Project Manager: Yeah ?
  Industrial Designer: Uh the buttons of course rubber , I think everyone agrees . And electrical cables , copper is all pretty basic stuff . The chips made of silicon , I guess . I think that's the best uh way to do it .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: And infra infrared l LED is uh just a simple bulb .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Then I've uh {vocalsound} had a few findings , made a few findings . Uh the target audience product style . Um it's uh um generally the case that uh senior and wealthy people above uh forty five years old uh like , as you said , uh particularly the traditional materials as such as wood and materials such as that . They also like straightforward shapes and luxurious style . But of course that's not our uh things this . So this is things we must not do .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: And then we have uh young uh and dynamic uh people , which is of course our uh group , the people we aim at . Um under forty five years old . Uh they like soft materials uh with primary colours . Soft materials is of course uh agai again a bit a contradiction with uh our uh material choice of what you said , that uh it should be hard an and and and and strong looking .
  Marketing: Mm . Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: But they like soft materials , uh so we might uh we have to consider that . And also they like curved round shapes . So not uh too formal like like uh the older people want . And if uh also a finding but not very ap applicable here , that sports and gaming devices such as uh discmans for jogging and that those kind of devices , gaming devices , should define the characteristics of the device . But uh since we don't have a really a sports or gaming device , so we don't really have to consider that .
  Project Manager: Sports uh , they're uh that uh are accessible on on your L_C_D_ uh window uh
  User Interface: Soccer fronts . {vocalsound} Mm .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {disfmarker} Huh ? {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Project Manager: That's nice . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Project Manager: All the {gap} results ?
  Industrial Designer: Well I also have um several examples of uh styles ,
  Marketing: We keep coming back to the fronts . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: so you can get a clear picture of uh what I mean .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh {vocalsound} these are the basic uh older older peoples' stuff .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: It was not very uh interesting uh , very classical looking ,
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm . {vocalsound} Nai . Uh no .
  Industrial Designer: but that's n that's not what we want .
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Industrial Designer: We have these kind of things . I don't know what exactly they are .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Fruity . {vocalsound} Fruity .
  Industrial Designer: It looks like {disfmarker} Well you know uh you recognise the shapes ,
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: it's very primary colours , uh bright colours and uh round shapes .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: You also uh {vocalsound} see uh this device , it's not very round and {disfmarker} Fruity of course . Yeah , it uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: It's t terrible .
  Industrial Designer: That's true .
  Project Manager: Alright .
  Industrial Designer: And uh well round shapes , primary colours .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: You can see it all here . And of course uh this famous device .
  Project Manager: Hmm ?
  Industrial Designer: I think as you know something uh some devices like this .
  Project Manager: Yeah , alright .
  Industrial Designer: So to give you an idea of uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Well it's got a strong look , this . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: This has a strong look . Although it's plastic , it's it's grey to to to give it iron look .
  Marketing: Yeah , it still has a strong look .
  Project Manager: Yeah . And it's round .
  Industrial Designer: That's uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: But then you are losing your fruity colours .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Well we have to make a {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well you can make th th th that middle ring can you you can make another colour . So uh those kind of things you can you can combine .
  Marketing: That's true .
  Industrial Designer: Well we can't really make a round uh a round remote control . I don't think that's very practical ,
  Project Manager: No , it isn't .
  Industrial Designer: but {disfmarker} But uh it's important to to uh to think about the colour .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Because if we make it grey or or silvery looking , it it does make it a lot more uh does make it looking a lot more stronger .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: 'Cause if you look at this , it it doesn't look very very strong ,
  Marketing: Yeah but the {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: becau But this is plastic , and and this too , but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: But it doesn't have to look strong . The the results are , the feel of the material is expected to be strongy .
  Industrial Designer: The feel ? Uh alright .
  Marketing: The feel .
  Project Manager: So , if you ti
  Industrial Designer: Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: And it it doesn't have to be strong , also .
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Nah yeah the feel {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: You you {disfmarker} Maybe you should have uh some some coloured titanium or something .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Only the feel . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So it it looks pretty but it feels strong .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  Marketing: Right .
  User Interface: Oh .
  Industrial Designer: And I {disfmarker} Then I have some more findings . Um {vocalsound} uh about the energy energy source of the of the device ,
  Marketing: I agree .
  Industrial Designer: uh I uh suggest uh the basic battery . I uh got some other um uh uh energy sources of course . But solar energy is not very practical inside a house , because you don't have a have a lot of uh sun .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: And uh kinetic and and and dynamos are are not very practical , I think , for uh for a simple remote ,
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: that's a bit , oh , that's a bit uh {disfmarker} That's a bit uh much .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap} No titanium . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: And I also suggest uh as a shape uh a double curved case .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Uh the disadvantage of that that you can use no titanium . That that's the information I received . If you use the curved case , uh a curved case , double curved then you can't use titanium .
  Project Manager: What do you exactly mean with double curved ?
  Industrial Designer: Now uh this uh to give it a more modern look .
  User Interface: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: And uh {vocalsound} now the the shape , yeah , {gap} a curved case . Um yeah I think uh sort of triangle-shaped bottom or something . Uh {gap} a more modern look not plain , long box style , but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} I dunno .
  Project Manager: Double curved ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} I'll draw it ,
  Project Manager: It it mean {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah , well okay . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: but maybe later .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} And it makes uh it gives it a more u user friendly shape , than if you have uh {gap} . Um anyway {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Um f as uh for the buttons , simple push buttons . No uh otherwi uh no um difficult scroll things or some uh things like that , because it makes more complex and expensive . And , uh as we agreed , we don't use a speaker or a sensor or um {vocalsound} uh speak uh speech uh controlled {vocalsound} device .
  Marketing: Yeah right . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Because it makes it also more complex and expensive . But we do use an L_C_D_ screen , so we uh we do have to consider uh of we have to use a more advanced chip , which is more complex and expensive . But {disfmarker} It's worth the trouble I think ,
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: The buttons can be made of an uh a soft material .
  Industrial Designer: because {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Because people like that .
  Project Manager: This soft material thing from uh {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh rubber is a soft material , I guess .
  User Interface: Yeah . Right . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh soft enough .
  Marketing: Yeah . Right .
  Industrial Designer: So that's uh basically what I want to talk about .
  Project Manager: Alright . Okay . We will take that . And then uh Mike ? Okay .
  User Interface: Yeah . Well um nah the method um we will um include the buttons as we discussed uh earlier . Um an L_C_D_ s screen will be implemented . Um we must decide where , this meeting .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Um there are new developments in speech recognition um systems , {vocalsound} um and they are already being uh used on uh coffee machines . And um well they're cheap , so we could use them now .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Oh {disfmarker} That's interesting .
  User Interface: Um it's not really speech recognition , it's more um like you can um talk to the chip , uh record the message and record an answer , and then once you uh talk to the remote , then um he will a answer with the the prerecorded message that you left . So if I say hi Mike , and you have recorded uh hi Mike back , then you will get that .
  Industrial Designer: Oh , yeah , I understand . Yeah .
  Marketing: Oh okay . {gap}
  Project Manager: Okay . But you can also say that , when you say something , it does some function .
  Marketing: Right .
  User Interface: No it doesn't does not do anything .
  Marketing: No .
  Project Manager: Oh . That's a bit uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: But i it's just a {disfmarker}
  Marketing: But that that makes it cheap .
  Project Manager: Yes . I understand .
  User Interface: Yeah it's it's cheap .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: It's {vocalsound} it's just a an extra function ,
  Project Manager: But {vocalsound} it has no functionality for our remote at all .
  Marketing: and it's cheap .
  User Interface: No
  Marketing: No but {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  User Interface: but that's the gadget they want , or the gimmicks .
  Marketing: Yeah , right . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But it it's n nice for young people .
  Marketing: Young people love them .
  User Interface: Yes , we we should really uh include that one , I think . Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: They like gadgets . Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah , ple Right .
  Project Manager: Hmm .
  Industrial Designer: If it's cheap . Yeah .
  User Interface: Well , as I said uh earlier I think the uh L_C_D_ screen should be uh positioned at the lower end of the remote .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Um the buttons for screen width and general settings and {gap} uh and that kind of stuff {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: um we can also do let that kind of functions um be shown in the L_C_D_ screen , uh instead of uh extra buttons .
  Project Manager: So you put a menu in the L_C_D_ ?
  User Interface: I think young people and yeah w well every user would like that . Um the buttons um should be positioned uh positioned the same way as they are on a , well , conventional remote , I think . For the learnability and uh well to keep it recognisable . A voice recognition can be uh implemented . And uh I drew an example ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: but it did not work quite the well uh the way I wanted it to do .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright .
  Industrial Designer: Can you draw it now of uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: How {disfmarker} How {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Ah .
  User Interface: Hmm ? Well I have the {disfmarker} I can draw it again ,
  Industrial Designer: Can you draw it now ?
  User Interface: and I know what I did wrong . I didn't tick the note bo box in the {gap} . Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Mm . Alright .
  Marketing: How do you uh uh give input to the menu on the L_C_D_ screen ?
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Um with the uh the up and down and and well buttons and the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Alright . So you have a menu button , and then you can go up and down .
  Project Manager: But then we should also have an uh an Okay button .
  User Interface: Well I will draw what I had drawn on the screen . Yes .
  Marketing: Yeah right .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Um I shall draw this . If it uh works .
  Industrial Designer: {gap} button , yeah .
  Project Manager: Just uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} There is already a blank . Yes ? So {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Mm so have I .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Nah .
  Marketing: {gap} . {gap} You have to push hard .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {gap}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: I suggest a banana shape .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Because of the fruity uh fashion .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: No m Next year that's out .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yellow and {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah alright , yeah . Just a hunch . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well these little buttons are a bit difficult to uh draw uh correct .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Those are the the cha the channel buttons of course ?
  User Interface: Yeah just uh the numbers . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: And then below is the L_C_D_ screen ?
  User Interface: These these will be bigger in the the real design .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Alright , yeah .
  User Interface: This must be the Okay button used to uh interact with the L_C_D_ screen .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  User Interface: And with this you can uh , yes , go to through the menus
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: and that can Um the video button should be uh an apart button ,
  Marketing: You've {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yes .
  User Interface: because you want it to uh t , yeah , to use it fast within one uh click .
  Marketing: Right .
  Project Manager: And what's the menu button ?
  User Interface: Um it's {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: And you you need a you need a speaker .
  User Interface: Hmm ?
  Marketing: For the {disfmarker} {gap}
  User Interface: This button can also be the Menu button , we use in the menus {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But how did {disfmarker} How do you get out of the menu then ? Yeah .
  User Interface: Well we we can add another button here , but {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Maybe I you could j just do an an exit with Okay . Uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Uh by pe pressing the menu button again . By pressing the menu button again , you go uh out .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: It's usual the the the d kind of the way it works .
  Project Manager: Yes , well but bec because when you {vocalsound} push Menu you get in ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ? Yeah ?
  Project Manager: and then you have to push Okay when you get to a choice .
  User Interface: Ah right . Well you you {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . But you can men you can press menu again to get out .
  Project Manager: Well that's also the Okay button . That's you you should have uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No no , we we we should uh add uh a extra Menu button
  Industrial Designer: No .
  Project Manager: Or you can put in the L_C_D_'s uh window an option Get Out .
  User Interface: and this the Okay button .
  Marketing: Exit .
  Project Manager: Exit {gap} .
  User Interface: Ah once you have an extra Menu button , you don't need that that extra option .
  Project Manager: Well , it's just a choice .
  User Interface: You have uh redundancy .
  Marketing: But we need a we need a a recording recording button for the speech uh part .
  User Interface: Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: Or don't {disfmarker}
  User Interface: if we decide to uh to implement that , maybe we should .
  Industrial Designer: Why would you put it uh then , and where is the recording uh the microphone ?
  User Interface: Well they that could be anywhere .
  Industrial Designer: Where would you put it ?
  User Interface: That's very small . It could be uh down here . {vocalsound} Um . Well , not here .
  Industrial Designer: Uh-huh .
  User Interface: I {vocalsound} yeah I suggest here . But that's just a little {vocalsound} gap . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Microphone , yeah .
  Marketing: Right , and spea speaker at the back , or something .
  User Interface: Well the speaker and the microphone , I think , are the same uh little hole thingy .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah I understand .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright .
  Industrial Designer: Uh but uh we could uh d do , but it's perhaps more expensive , uh the speaker on the back or something .
  User Interface: Well i Um there are a all already being implemented in in coffee machines , so they won't be uh very expensive . But {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Huh ?
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Marketing: Alright .
  Project Manager: Yeah ? Okay .
  User Interface: This is my suggested design .
  Project Manager: Well , okay , alright . Um then let's have a look at the decisions we are going to have to make .
  User Interface: Um {disfmarker} Yes . And oh I think as you can see so , the L_C_D_ screen does look better uh at the lower end , or at the bottom .
  Project Manager: I'd {disfmarker} I agree .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} But {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah , fine . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Fine . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well yeah yeah yeah .
  Marketing: Move on . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: Oh , um I had some uh examples .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: I can live with it .
  Project Manager: Yes ?
  User Interface: You can uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound} But {disfmarker} I did not like it very much , but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well these are quite obvious , very ugly remote . {vocalsound} Um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Too big . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: They do they don't look fruity enough .
  User Interface: No , well th
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Nei They're n they're not trendy .
  Project Manager: They're all black .
  User Interface: Yeah . Well not all . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Hey , that one I like . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Uh this is for children but {vocalsound} th
  Industrial Designer: Tho Yeah those {disfmarker}
  Marketing: It doesn't look strong . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: No .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} No .
  Industrial Designer: But it doesn't uh the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} The remote . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: W but with the colours i it's a bit the way we're going to .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , ok Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah right .
  User Interface: Well this is a terrible {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Terrible .
  Marketing: This is just crazy .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But it it must not look too childish of course huh ?
  Project Manager: It's it's all too much buttons .
  User Interface: Um this looks {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Too many buttons . That's {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah . This uh these are the L_C_D_ screens . I think we should , if it's um possible , uh one with colours , but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Nah th It's too expensive .
  User Interface: I don't know uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well , that's too expensive I think .
  User Interface: Too expensive ? Alright .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Alright . Yeah .
  User Interface: Well {disfmarker} Nah .
  Industrial Designer: But it {disfmarker} Yeah . {gap}
  Project Manager: Okay . Huh .
  User Interface: Ha , even more . N
  Project Manager: Mm no . {vocalsound} 'Kay .
  Marketing: But are we going for a strange uh form ?
  Project Manager: No , not very strange .
  Marketing: 'Cause people like that .
  Industrial Designer: Not not too strange . No .
  Marketing: Not too strange .
  Project Manager: It still has t
  Marketing: You can make the the underside , you can make it more round , where the L_C_D_ is .
  Project Manager: Yes . Th a a kind of bridge . So it f falls over the hand .
  User Interface: Well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: I dunno if you know the No Nokia telephone , with uh the round uh thing at at the bottoms , s something like that .
  Project Manager: Yeah ? Yeah ? Yeah .
  Marketing: You know ? {gap}
  Project Manager: Well I have at home {vocalsound} a remote with a bridge . It's just a half round half half circle at {disfmarker} And then it falls exactly over the hand , and that's very nice . That's {disfmarker} It feels comfortable .
  Marketing: Yeah , but people like something uh new you know .
  Industrial Designer: Exotic yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah , different .
  Industrial Designer: We have t Yeah , yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I will design it , we design it later .
  Marketing: Y yis
  Industrial Designer: So we'll get to that later I guess .
  Marketing: Alright . Great .
  Project Manager: Yeah , alright . Um where did I put it ? Um conceptual phase , I think this is it .
  Industrial Designer: The specific shape . The {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I got this from our friends .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Uh yeah the conceptual design .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Our sources .
  Project Manager: These are a few examples which we have to decide about . All the the materials from the case , uh the electric cable that's all your uh your side of the story . Um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Your bag . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . Um now from the user interface , your uh package ? {vocalsound} Um where {disfmarker} No well , that's more like the buttons where they have to come . And um {disfmarker} B a bit of , yeah well , a bit of uh design .
  User Interface: Yeah , this is what we've just done . Right ?
  Project Manager: Yes , but we have to decide about these now .
  Industrial Designer: But uh we should decide now .
  User Interface: Ah right .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: And uh the trend-watching .
  Marketing: Materials are the most , most impor
  Project Manager: So as you said , fruity is in , well {gap} sells good .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Wow .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh these things .
  Industrial Designer: So we have to uh put it in one uh document . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh yes . Um so if we uh go through them {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Copy paste uh this story into a into a Word document , and then uh put the answers after the subjects . {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Not everything .
  Industrial Designer: Well we have to decide all these things ?
  User Interface: Yeah but {vocalsound} all these examples are uh of a coffee machine .
  Project Manager: Yeah well uh {disfmarker} Why should I uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: W we can uh override them ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Well a case ? Uh that's me . Uh I suggest {disfmarker} Well what do I suggest actually ? {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: What what kind of properties should it have ? Well we just listened .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Uh s solid ,
  User Interface: I think we {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: yeah . Yeah .
  User Interface: Why don't we um use uh titanium or or a hard , yeah , some kind of metal for the uh the the whole remote except the front .
  Marketing: Do you know the new uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: That {disfmarker} Just like um most cell phones are .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I understand .
  Marketing: No {vocalsound} no {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah . So we have titanium . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: The front is the most important .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah but the non-removable elements of the of the remote , so not the front , could be titanium ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: to give that uh strong look .
  Project Manager: You know what ?
  Industrial Designer: And then the front is made of plastic . And you can put that on and off , and switch it .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: But the feel of plastic isn't strong . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No but you have titanium of course .
  User Interface: No but you you have this {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh you have the best of both worlds .
  Marketing: Yeah alright , alright . 'Kay .
  User Interface: Yeah , you have the re remote in your hand like this . So you feel titanium . {gap}
  Industrial Designer: And of course , yeah , you have the the the plastic front end . But you also have the titanium .
  Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} Fronts are are cheaper than when they're from plas
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah of course , but yeah {vocalsound} you have to make a decision .
  User Interface: And I don't know if you can make steel just any way you want it to .
  Marketing: Yeah , but it it's expensive .
  Industrial Designer: I guess so .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh titanium I sh I think uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Bendable .
  Industrial Designer: Huh ? Well , well the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Bendable .
  User Interface: Well any colour {gap} {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: According to my sources , uh it's it's totally possible to make an entire uh uh uh {disfmarker} Titanium is available , and uh we can uh make uh an entire remote out of it , if we want .
  User Interface: Yeah , then you you paint it in the colour you want it . The plastic is is the colour you want it .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: Yeah . Paint spray .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: Yeah alright .
  User Interface: So {gap} {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Project Manager: Alright .
  Marketing: So , we're going for a titanium back and a plastic front ?
  Project Manager: I've uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
  Project Manager: Titanium back , plastic front .
  Industrial Designer: I think that's a nice trade-off .
  Project Manager: Okay . Um well I am going to put it in here , uh because we can uh look .
  Marketing: Yeah , great .
  Project Manager: I {disfmarker} Um solid feel and trendy look .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Alright .
  Project Manager: So material , um hard plastic for the front ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , for the front and then titanium for the back .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: For the non-removable uh part .
  Marketing: But then you have the problem , when you have a titanium back , you can't switch it . When you want an other colour on the front , it doesn't match .
  User Interface: Well titanium is neutral . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: You know ?
  Industrial Designer: The titan titanium isn't isn't v very {disfmarker} Yeah , i it doesn't uh {vocalsound} curves .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} I understand .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No uh I nei . {vocalsound} Titanium is very {disfmarker} No no no , but you know b Titanium is very basic colour ,
  Marketing: Yeah , yeah , yeah . Yeah .
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Industrial Designer: and it doesn't really matter if we have a purple front on it or a orange front .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I dunno if if you disagree ,
  Marketing: Alright .
  User Interface: Well {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: but I think it's doesn't matter very much .
  User Interface: Our customers will use those uh funky uh trendy colours ,
  Marketing: Yeah . Alright .
  User Interface: and they don't use uh wood .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Funky customers .
  Industrial Designer: And even if it does uh doesn't match , it will uh {disfmarker} People like mm colours that don't match .
  User Interface: Mm . Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay . And well
  Marketing: Alright . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: the the electrical cable is just normal uh {gap} . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Cop copper uh material .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Excuse me ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: The electrical cable uh does {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: It's uh from uh our coffee uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah copper i just a ba basic uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No we don't use an electrical cable .
  Project Manager: {gap} {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah inside , but this is for the coffee uh machine .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah in {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah well inside the remote control we use a couple of uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Of course .
  User Interface: Yeah , but that's not what's meant here , I think . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Nei .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: So external .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Oh external ?
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Well {gap} {vocalsound} A coffee grind doesn't have {disfmarker} Na ja . Never mind the coffee grind .
  Project Manager: Well uh
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: all the all the inside work of our remote is uh standard work . So {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Right ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: The chip is normal silicon .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh the buttons are normal , etcetera .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay ? So that's just easy .
  Industrial Designer: Alright . Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: Uh we decide about that just by looking at our competitors and our {vocalsound} earlier uh remotes . The conceptual specification of the user interface ? Um well we have our beautiful drawing .
  User Interface: Well I got a better one here
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Alright .
  User Interface: and I will um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Well you can put that in uh into the shared folder ,
  User Interface: The shared folder .
  Project Manager: and then I'll put it in our end report .
  User Interface: I will work this out uh for the uh next meeting .
  Project Manager: Yes , you can {disfmarker} Mm yeah . You can uh put some uh which button is what .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay . Um
  User Interface: Yeah yeah yeah .
  Project Manager: the trend-watching {disfmarker} {gap} included these days . And what do we ?
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: We thing that fruit and bright colours are {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah the the the front w
  Marketing: I think we can launch a couple of packages . You can buy a different kind of of of machine ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: but it's the same thing , but with another front .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  Project Manager: We can also uh implement um we can also implement fronts from um movies that are very hot .
  Marketing: So {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah that's the whole idea of the front .
  Marketing: And you can you can {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Yeah .
  User Interface: Yes .
  Project Manager: Uh those kind of things .
  Marketing: Yeah right .
  User Interface: But that's for later on . The fronts y you can do anything with them .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah but if you if you launch uh five different packages like iPod mini {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , right {disfmarker} For the uh initiative uh launch .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: For the for the launch , yeah .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Marketing: It's good marketing .
  Project Manager: Launch different lines at once .
  Industrial Designer: So e th then a c couple of basic colours . Not not very uh {vocalsound} sim Not {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah , n not too heavy . You can always take another pick . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: We should not give them the m the most lovely front when they buy it for the first time .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} They have to buy it later on .
  User Interface: Oh yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah . {gap} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah right .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Yeah . Yeah .
  Project Manager: Come on . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} More basic .
  Project Manager: We still have to make those fifty million , yeah ? {vocalsound} .
  Industrial Designer: Very boring , yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well you can you can give them uh s s three or so ,
  Industrial Designer: The most boring fronts possible .
  Project Manager: The most ugly .
  User Interface: so that they can uh experiment with it and that they want more .
  Marketing: Yeah , right .
  Project Manager: Two .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah but you you can have some basic colours , and then we come with the special patterns on them ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: Red red , blue and green you give them or something ,
  Industrial Designer: and and uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: and then you can give them {gap} uh other ones .
  Industrial Designer: And uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah . Alright . Um well the buttons etcetera , we get from Mike . Uh this fruit and bright colours , yeah well I think we'll have to in the next uh half an hour , we'll have to uh s s specify the different uh types we want to launch , when we uh {vocalsound} well introduce our remote .
  Industrial Designer: Uh we still have to make {disfmarker} We have still have to make the es the the real basic design . {vocalsound} Because yeah we have the sketch but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah . But we we must remember that {vocalsound} fancy look-and-feel is the most important thing .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Marketing: Else it w won't sell .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yes .
  Industrial Designer: Alright , yeah .
  Project Manager: Well I'll have to , before I get another warning for five minutes , I'm going to get {disfmarker} Where is my mouse ? Uh where is my mouse ? {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Lost my mouse . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Oh yeah . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um this is it .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Unbelievable . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well , um this we have .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Uh basic stuff . Interface we have . Supplements , L_C_D_ . Maybe a a cheap voice recording . Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah we should do that .
  Industrial Designer: The price ?
  Project Manager: Yes . Alright . Individual actions .
  Industrial Designer: We all agree on that . Yeah .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Project Manager: Industry designer , {gap} . User Interface , Mike . You're going to work together on a prototype drawing on the SMARTboard .
  User Interface: Yeah , we can do that .
  Industrial Designer: Together or uh {disfmarker} Yeah together .
  Marketing: Yeah togeth {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} That's what I got uh to hear .
  Industrial Designer: How {disfmarker} Yeah yeah , but how do I {disfmarker}
  User Interface: But bu we stay we stay here or something ?
  Project Manager: Yes well we'll get it to hear that I think .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But I think so . Th they're saying SMARTboard and that's it {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} You can take the SMARTboard . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: This is the SMARTboard , so {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Ah right . {vocalsound} And take it to our rooms and uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Um so you can uh you you are going to make a prototype , and y Well that's includes uh specifying the buttons etcetera .
  User Interface: Ah , specific instructions will be sent to you by your personal coach . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah . So you'll get it on your em on your laptop . Um well you will go and do something else uh on the project {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Some {disfmarker} Some non functional tasks .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Have fun {vocalsound} .
  Project Manager: yeah project evaluation . So um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: 'Kay .
  Project Manager: {gap} , what are you going to do ? Uh I don't know what product evaluation exactly means , but uh you'll get uh the specifications .
  Marketing: We don't have produ product yet ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: so kind of difficult . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: That's why I uh {disfmarker} But uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You're fired . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No but {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: How long do we still have ? {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well , can we talk about something else ? Uh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah . {gap}
  Industrial Designer: Uh no I don't know anything , but maybe uh anyone else uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {gap} Ajax . Nah .
  User Interface: Yeah . Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ?
  User Interface: Will we use uh round buttons or square ones for the for the numbers ?
  Industrial Designer: Round I think .
  Marketing: Um round .
  User Interface: Yeah I I I also uh thought {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . Round .
  Industrial Designer: To make it as uh as round as possible .
  User Interface: And these uh these s these buttons {vocalsound} uh are more uh triangle-ish shaped
  Project Manager: Why does {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Curvy . Yeah .
  User Interface: with a square one in the middle .
  Marketing: So you can see you have to up or down .
  Project Manager: Ah f fuck you .
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: But now I see the {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: And this must be uh volume I think ,
  Project Manager: Heh ?
  Marketing: and this programme .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} We can't get {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Well most of the time uh up and down is programme and left and right are volume , I think .
  Industrial Designer: Well th th th th th that depends uh .
  Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah , it depends , but {disfmarker} If you turn up the volume , you always see this thingy go up . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Well we uh {disfmarker} We we j we'll just give them an uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah , that's right .
  Industrial Designer: We'll design it ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: and then they can give comments on it .
  Project Manager: Ts
  User Interface: Yeah alright .
  Marketing: Yeah . Okay .
  Project Manager: It doesn't work any more . We can't save them . So we'll just have them uh standing there .
  Marketing: Yeah , I noticed . You can't uh click the corners .
  Project Manager: No . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: It's a bit uh bit a pity .
  Marketing: It's a real real great thing .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Well we still have uh more than five minutes . Um {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: So {vocalsound} what are we going to do ? {vocalsound} I as Project Manager ha don't have a clue . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Let's start the design .
  Project Manager: Oh we can uh decide how we implement {vocalsound} the feeling from our company into the remote .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: Well yeah . Um I think um {vocalsound} a logo , our company logo , and the slogan should be or could be {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Also the slogan ? On the {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , why not ? {vocalsound} If there's enough space , {vocalsound} you can put uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Uh I I'd say only the logo .
  Industrial Designer: We'll we'll {disfmarker}
  Marketing: O Yeah . Me too .
  User Interface: Too much text and it gets too too busy .
  Industrial Designer: Well , our slogan is not very long . It's just a simple {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: We put the fashion in electronics .
  User Interface: Well {vocalsound} it's quite a long phrase .
  Industrial Designer: What is it ? {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: We put the fashion in electronics .
  Marketing: But we kree we keep adjusting to the fashion with our fronts . So {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} You c {vocalsound} But you can put it on the back , on the titanium part . The logo and the and the {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Ah the logo should be on the top I think .
  Marketing: Yeah , right . The logo {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: On the top . Yeah . Well in in in the right top corner ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah they do . Well yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: Right corner , yes .
  Project Manager: And well you c On the back , you can put uh h {vocalsound} At the bottom , you can put the logo with the {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Right corner , or maybe here in the middle ?
  User Interface: {gap} uh the text ?
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Just just small .
  User Interface: Uh yeah , at the back ?
  Marketing: But the logo the logo shouldn't be exchangeable , when you get off the front .
  User Interface: Well you c Well uh {disfmarker} Yes .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah it it should be hard on the on the on the board ,
  Project Manager: Yeah well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound} Yeah .
  User Interface: You can {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: and you can remove the front .
  User Interface: The logo can be on on every uh front .
  Marketing: Yeah ,
  User Interface: Yeah , but then you must uh really uh yeah {vocalsound} push it in or something .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Carved into the material . {vocalsound} No , you you can carve it into the titanium at the back .
  Industrial Designer: I l I like the idea of the of the slogan on the on the on the thing .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But {vocalsound} am I the only one , or uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , on the backside .
  Project Manager: Well , management would like it . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well n n not not on the front side , I think .
  Project Manager: The front side , no no l no slogan .
  Industrial Designer: No not on the front ,
  User Interface: {vocalsound} On the back {disfmarker} Yes , you you can , yeah , push that in ,
  Industrial Designer: but on the backside . Uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Sorry .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} so that it is always be there .
  Industrial Designer: I think it's a nice idea , {vocalsound} to make it more recognisable , that the next to the logo you have the slogan .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: I agree .
  Industrial Designer: To make more uh of an impression .
  Marketing: But not too big .
  Industrial Designer: Not too big . No ,
  Marketing: Just uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: very small . Not {vocalsound} on the entire back , but uh just very small .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} You have to make this titanium too .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} But readable enough of course .
  Marketing: Okay .
  Project Manager: Yes , slogan from company on the back with logo
  Industrial Designer: But we'll uh we'll take that uh with us into the design .
  User Interface: Yeah I think over here the logo . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Lo Uh yeah . Or maybe here in the middle , but we'll decide later .
  Project Manager: and logo also on the front but not exchange uh {disfmarker} Uh ? Hmm ? {vocalsound} {gap} Uh when changing fronts .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {gap} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Alright , that's decided .
  Industrial Designer: Do you do you see a bit of the of the um of the uh titanium ? O on the front ?
  Project Manager: Five minutes left .
  Industrial Designer: Uh maybe if we make this this this lower part titanium ,
  User Interface: Yes we could {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {gap} the front is the the upper part , and the the bit with the with the L_C_D_ screen . So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So a bit of titanium between ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . No no betwe
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: That's a bit {disfmarker} Oh that that's that's pretty cool .
  Industrial Designer: of between we can do but {disfmarker} But then you have two parts of front , two fronts that {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No , they have two fronts ,
  Marketing: No no no no .
  User Interface: that . You you can {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: No ?
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah . {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: This enti entire bottom ?
  Marketing: Else you you get problems with the L_C_D_ . Like dust in it and so things like that .
  Project Manager: Yes .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: When you exchange all the fronts and it's open .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I already have uh all kinds of uh filth between the mobile .
  User Interface: No , you can you can just {disfmarker} And then not a straight line but uh some sort of wave or something .
  Marketing: you can make it go round this corner too where the logo is . Because it has to be uh there all the time you know .
  Industrial Designer: And then the lower part is titanium ?
  User Interface: This is titanium . And this is uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I think that's nice , yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah . Some some kind of wei weight in it . Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Round forms .
  User Interface: F front .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . I like that bit of uh titanium also on the uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah . With the with the curved edge .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Yep .
  Industrial Designer: A bit like uh a bit like your mobile phone .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Maybe you can show it . It also has the those {vocalsound} two distinct uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound} Tada .
  Industrial Designer: Mm bit like this .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Uh it's uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah ,
  Project Manager: What ? {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah yeah . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Ah .
  Industrial Designer: That uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So round where ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Maybe a nice touch , yeah .
  Marketing: So uh a little corner of titanium . We can't uh take a blank one .
  User Interface: Yeah , that's nice finishing touch you need .
  Project Manager: Oh , yeah .
  Marketing: Or can we ?
  Project Manager: Yes , {gap} that also sounds uh pretty uh neat .
  Industrial Designer: {gap}
  Marketing: So this this is the exchangeable part .
  Industrial Designer: I think I'm going to buy it .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} We want it .
  User Interface: Yeah , this is the front .
  Project Manager: And it's only f twenty five Euros .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Come on .
  Industrial Designer: That's a bit too much , but {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: No that's nothing .
  Industrial Designer: No , no no no , but {vocalsound} I think uh this looks uh pretty nice actually .
  Project Manager: The Phillips remote uh costs more . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Of course , because it's my design but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Right .
  User Interface: My design . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: No our d our design , alright .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Taking all the credit . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well uh you two are going to work together . You'll get your uh specifications on your uh laptop , and then uh {vocalsound} you uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah . We'll stay here I guess ?
  Marketing: But there's a problem .
  Project Manager: Well I think we can , I just {gap} {disfmarker} It's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: It's not relaxing .
  User Interface: Well we can uh erase an animal I guess . Uh the fourth one .
  Marketing: Yeah . Nah that's alright , that's alright .
  Industrial Designer: But don't erase my cat .
  Project Manager: Yeah , o
  User Interface: Uh the fourth one is empty , isn't it ?
  Marketing: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Oh {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I want to preserve it .
  Project Manager: {gap} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {gap}
  Marketing: {gap} This one is empty .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: You have to empty one huh ?
  Project Manager: Oh , we have a {gap} one . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: What are you doing chief ?
  Project Manager: So , you can uh draw a {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Marketing: Alright .
  User Interface: Yeah I think we have to wait ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah
  Project Manager: Well I'll get a {disfmarker} I'll get the message .
  Industrial Designer: until the until the beep goes .
  Marketing: No {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But I don't uh {disfmarker} Do we have to stay here ,
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: No , I think uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: or I think we have to return first .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Well you'll {disfmarker} Maybe you can uh keep your uh laptop here . {gap}
  User Interface: Maybe .
  Project Manager: Or get your mouse . Because it's little bit uh hard to work with these uh plates .
  Industrial Designer: The high powers from above {vocalsound} will have to tell us , yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: I always have a mouse next to my laptop .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Dream on . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I hate these {disfmarker}
  Marketing: I I don't have a laptop .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , touch-pads , yeah .
  Project Manager: Ugh .
  Industrial Designer: We can uh do a touch-pad on our remote .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah right .
  User Interface: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} No just kidding . Well we have uh b you have to have a bit of humour in the in the discussions too ,
  Marketing: You just have to push harder .
  Industrial Designer: because it becomes too too too too stressy .
  Project Manager: And in your remote control . So we put a touch pad on it , and say ha ha .
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Aha . This has no function . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Half
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: We know you'll you'll you'll hate it but {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: But uh th youth doesn't care about functio functionality , so {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No .
  Project Manager: But they do want some gadgets . So that's wha what we're doing .
  Marketing: It's all about cool things .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Marketing: And it will sell .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: We will be rich .
  Industrial Designer: Bless you . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well we won't . Our bosses will be rich .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  User Interface: We've done too much in the previous meetings .
  Industrial Designer: Too much ?
  User Interface: Yes , we've got nothing to do now . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well , that's not bad , is it ?
  Industrial Designer: Well they uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No .
  Industrial Designer: I think that's good . We all had uh our talk and we agree I guess on uh several thing , on most uh on things .
  Project Manager: Mm .
  User Interface: Its the best remote ever .
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} Pinball .
  Project Manager: Oh {gap} . Oh he's totally off again . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No man .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah you have to push harder . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: But when I start here , it's here .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: So is it {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yes , but you you get really close to the screen with your hand ,
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: and I don't think that's {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Mm .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Project Manager: Nope .
  Marketing: Recalibrate it .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Where's the good old chalk board with the the green board with the , how do you call it , chalk , yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: We can better uh draw a design on this . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , maybe .
  User Interface: Yeah , but we can't .
  Industrial Designer: Maybe if i if that thing is recalibrated , we can draw a thing quick , and then before it uh {vocalsound} goes off again .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Let's go .
  User Interface: Well {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Finish meeting now .
  Project Manager: Finish the meeting now . Alright now we know what to do , so
  User Interface: We'll stay here ?
  Project Manager: Um {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah . Oh .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Message ?
  User Interface: Or we'll get the email .
  Industrial Designer: Maybe w maybe we maybe w m Can we get email here ?
  Project Manager: No , get away . {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Huh ? Yeah .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Guess so .
  Project Manager: Um I I'm not sure . Maybe you {disfmarker} Yeah . Well you'll have to work on this one .
  User Interface: Well we'll wait a few seconds
  Project Manager: Yeah . That's a good idea .
  User Interface: and then we'll get an email .
  Marketing: Alright . Have fun lads .
  Project Manager: Well {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} A happy hol happy holidays . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Good luck . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} but you can scratch it off or something . It's better if you have it uh {disfmarker}
input_prefix: What is User Interface's presentation mainly about?
output: User Interface talked about the method of including the buttons and the implementation of LCD screens. And he mentioned there are new developments in speech recognition systems as they are already being used on uh coffee machines; and since they're cheap, so he thinks they could use them now, as a small gimmick. As for mic and speaker, User Interface thinks that they are the same little hole things.