input: User Interface: It's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Bonjour .
  User Interface: It won't wake up . Yeah . I was a bit early . Like {disfmarker} What ?
  Marketing: Why ?
  User Interface: No , I just came in . Uh normally I was one of them .
  Marketing: Okay .
  User Interface: Come on .
  Project Manager: Hello .
  Marketing: Check check check check .
  Project Manager: Oop .
  User Interface: Why won't it wake up ? Is it on ?
  Marketing: The power light doesn't work . You turned it off .
  User Interface: But how ? Ah , there it is .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: Uh .
  Industrial Designer: I received an email with uh a few possibilities on uh the materials . So I'll discuss them with you .
  Project Manager: Okay , we're just going to the {gap} later .
  Marketing: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah , I received an email as well .
  Project Manager: So we're going to talk about the conceptual model .
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Oh .
  Project Manager: {gap}
  Marketing: Hmm .
  User Interface: Which one was mine ?
  Project Manager: So that's me .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh okay . So {disfmarker} Uh okay . Okay , so I just show you the m the no mm mm the the the the the the minutes , minute . {gap} What's it called , I dunno . Whatever .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: The minutes .
  Project Manager: Okay , so we just talked about uh {disfmarker} Oh you want me to show that there or {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No ,
  Industrial Designer: Mm no .
  Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay ,
  User Interface: just tell us .
  Project Manager: we just talked about it looks . Has to look nice . Usability is very important . People don't want to spend money on something that's similar to cheaper ones . Um {disfmarker} It has to be very basic , not too many buttons . Light switches on if you use a button . Uh text T_V_ still has to be a possibility . And it has to be easy to learn . That were the things I uh make minutes of . And the functions are volume , channel to choose channels , an on-off , a mute uh button , and a text T_V_ button . That are the functions . That right ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: Yes .
  Project Manager: So I just want to give you uh Mike again , the first uh presentation of your {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Shall I start ?
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: {gap} {vocalsound} No . Okay well {disfmarker} I received an email {disfmarker} Okay . I searched the web , uh and uh I searched uh on this d document , recent investigation of the remote control market . It has been done in Italy uh Italy and in uh another country in Europe , I forget it . Uh but uh they found out the most important aspect for remote controls happens to be a fancy look-and-feel , instead of the current functional look and feel . So it's very important for us to create something new . So what Michael just said , it must be uh some very different from ordinary uh remote controls . Fancy stands for an original look-and-feel of the case and interface . Uh this uh aspect is the most important one . Uh it came out of the research . It uh is twice important as the following . {vocalsound} The second uh most important aspect is that a remote control should it uh technological innovative . Uh that stands for uh uh new technical uh features . And then uh that uh {disfmarker} This is a point of discussion , because we just decided that we don't make use of uh L_C_D_ or uh speech recognition .
  User Interface: Hmm .
  Marketing: But um {vocalsound} this is the second uh important uh aspect , and I think uh we must use some of the new technology , to be uh innovative .
  Project Manager: But we already have the flashing flashing light on the {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Uh maybe maybe something new .
  User Interface: Yeah , more .
  Industrial Designer: Hmm .
  Marketing: We have to discuss about it s uh {disfmarker} Okay , uh {gap}
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: Well , I'll I'll get back on it .
  Marketing: features not uh do not exist in current remote controls . And that's very hard I think . Uh the third one is the aspect of the remote control should be easy to use . But uh that was an overall uh point . We already discussed that . Um I've got one picture . Uh d our our target group uh we thought about was young and trendy .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: So I took uh that part of the webpage . And it says uh fashion-watchers of uh uh Pari {vocalsound} uh France and uh Italy , yeah , uh have detected the following trends . This trends I th uh trend I think it's not um that meaningful for us , maybe . But it's about uh clothes and shoes .
  Project Manager: Hmm .
  Marketing: But the uh the next uh aspect also in contrast to last year , the feel of material is expe uh uh is expected to be spongy .
  User Interface: Spongy .
  Marketing: But spongy , what what does spongy says ?
  Industrial Designer: Spongy .
  User Interface: Spongy , like sponge .
  Marketing: Spongy . Okay . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: So rubber , kind of .
  User Interface: Uh soft materials .
  Project Manager: But maybe th that's al definitely a good idea ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: because you've you're you drop y your remote control very often on the ground . So it has to be {vocalsound} flexible .
  User Interface: Yeah , but {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: Yeah . Yeah , it's something that uh it stand there . But I didn't knew uh knew what it means . So spongy means y Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: It's like a sponge .
  User Interface: Soft , sponge .
  Marketing: So it's also a stress-ball .
  Project Manager: That's a good {disfmarker} That's a good idea . If it's de like that . That's good , a good idea .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , somewhat like {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , but {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Project Manager: Is it a bit like like the the the the {gap} remote control ?
  User Interface: How are you gonna make it ?
  Project Manager: R_ soft .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
  Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I've some uh material uh information , but I'll give you it later in my presentation .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Marketing: Okay ?
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: What do I think ? Uh because a fancy look is the most important thing uh for remote control uh control , I think about changeable fronts .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: Uh maybe a see-through one in a a fruit front . Because it's uh it's hot .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: And uh some basic uh colour fronts . {vocalsound} Uh so we can make uh five different fronts to start with or something . Uh maybe an extraordinary shape , like a sponge . {vocalsound} Uh or uh , yeah , just another shape than a normal uh remote control ha uh has .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: Just uh something round in it , or uh maybe not uh not uh {disfmarker} Yeah , I dun dunno . We have to discuss about that . Uh y yeah . Main point uh still uh is the technolo technological innovative . Yeah , how do we do that ? Maybe speech ? We ma must have some kind of gadget .
  User Interface: Yeah , I'll get back on that .
  Industrial Designer: Hmm .
  Marketing: So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} It's very uh difficult to to to do it .
  Marketing: Intro
  Project Manager: Because it's only twelve and a half Euros you have to spend on every remote control .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: Well ,
  Marketing: Yeah , that's the problem . That's the main problem .
  User Interface: I got f also an email from the the technology department .
  Marketing: So {disfmarker} Maybe we watch the first uh the next two presentations .
  User Interface: They have done uh research about it , and uh even more possibilities now with speech . So they recommended using it .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: Well {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Hmm .
  Marketing: Okay .
  User Interface: I'll check what they exact mean .
  Marketing: Uh let's first watch Paul's presentation first then .
  User Interface: So uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , well actually we have don't have an idea how much it's gonna cost . But maybe it's cheap
  User Interface: Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: and it's easy to implement .
  User Interface: th that's the only problem . I d They don't say how much it will cost , so {disfmarker} Um but uh
  Marketing: {gap}
  User Interface: if we implement uh speech recognition , I think it would be better to implement L_C_D_ as well .
  Marketing: Oh . It's mass production . So you can say , you can {gap} {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Since you have to uh configure speech thing .
  Project Manager: But that's definitely more expensive than {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah , that's that's something I dunno .
  Marketing: Yeah . But how uh we we're gonna make many of those . So we can start a mass production , and then the cost will still will be {gap} .
  Project Manager: Yeah , but a telephone {gap} {disfmarker} Okay , yeah . But a telephone also have a L_C_D_ and and it's about t two hundred Euros .
  User Interface: Yeah , so uh we gotta de
  Project Manager: So uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: We have to decide on that .
  Marketing: Yeah . Okay . That was this ?
  User Interface: Mm uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Oh I got an email uh {disfmarker} And it says uh the chip can be uh simple , regular or advanced . And {disfmarker} Um {disfmarker} They say uh a display requires an advanced chip . And this is more expensive than all the other chips . So
  User Interface: L_D_C_ doesn't require {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: it's m the most expensive . Yeah , it says in the email . The display requires an advanced chip .
  User Interface: Okay . And speech recognition ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , probably too .
  User Interface: Advanced {gap} . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I I haven't got anything about speech recognition , but {disfmarker}
  User Interface: I'll I'll give you my design .
  Industrial Designer: Well it d That's that's the most expensive chip , we need . If we're doing uh if we're doing a display .
  User Interface: Yeah okay . So we {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Well we can {disfmarker} I had uh to make a sort of a design . So I did some searching on the internet . I watched the old remote controls and news com remote como uh remote controls . I think we should um {disfmarker} This is one of the modern remote controls of the moment . I think we should go more to the iPod and M_P_ three players . Mobile phones .
  Project Manager: Yeah , just modern modern but still uh basic .
  User Interface: More modern . Y yes . Um you probably have to make it a bit bigger and a bit smaller . 'Cause remote con control , you can see it here , you have to bo reach both out {disfmarker} both sides . And here you just have one , few buttons . So that's that's the main difference . But looks uh I definitely think we should go like this . And then changeable fonts , so {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Hmm .
  User Interface: It's the most important part , I think . But {disfmarker} And the home base is something like that , something simple . Well and then I just ordered the the buttons a bit . Uh basic buttons . On-off , mute . And th maybe two others , I dunno . Text buttons .
  Project Manager: Yeah , maybe the teletext tel
  User Interface: Yeah , text button , maybe there and there . And then the colour buttons , if we want it on . I don't find it very usable ,
  Project Manager: No .
  User Interface: but it's {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No , I don't uh {disfmarker} I don't like it .
  User Interface: Uh I don't think it's fits in the the modern theme as well . So {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Hmm .
  User Interface: and then yeah we saw the the pla display , in the the iPod . They can put the basic buttons , one , two , three , four . And uh f above ten . {vocalsound} And I think {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: But it {disfmarker} That's on on the display .
  User Interface: No no . That th there is no display there . But it's on the place of the display . And I think we should uh light this up much more than that part .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: So the focus is on these two parts .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: So you don't see all the buttons you else need .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} But it sounds very difficult to use . Because um the volume and channel is on the on the the bottom of it .
  User Interface: Uh well um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So you can't use your thumb for it .
  User Interface: This is how it is now . Um {disfmarker} Here uh {disfmarker} Well we have volume .
  Project Manager: Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: I think it is on uh on the bottom too .
  Project Manager: down there . But it's not not the best best .
  User Interface: Yeah . Well here we have also side scrolls . I dunno if we can use that . Do we want to use {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , okay .
  Project Manager: Yeah , for volume . For volume , or a channel .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I've I've got something of that uh too .
  Project Manager: Yeah , why not .
  User Interface: For volume ? Well then we can even simplify it more .
  Industrial Designer: Scroll .
  User Interface: By just putting the volume on the side .
  Project Manager: And the channels as well .
  User Interface: And and just channel buttons here .
  Project Manager: Oh yeah .
  User Interface: But I think uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , or uh maybe uh {disfmarker} The channel buttons are often used . And you can't use them now with your thumb , because the thing is not , it's not easy to control .
  User Interface: Well . Yeah , well it's {disfmarker} Basically it's it's here .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah okay , m maybe we cho should put that on top , and buttons we we don't use on , in the bottom .
  Project Manager: Yeah , that's better .
  User Interface: They're on top ?
  Project Manager: Yeah , just th th th other buttons like text T_V_ . Put that on the button bottom .
  Industrial Designer: Because uh you can't hold it . You can't hold it th the control and push the buttons .
  User Interface: You mean uh these to the low ?
  Project Manager: Mm-hmm . Yeah . Except from the on-off button .
  User Interface: Oh okay . Well , yeah .
  Industrial Designer: But I I think w you'll use uh the switch channels buttons uh more often than the normal uh channel buttons , like one two three . So maybe we can put that on the bottom .
  User Interface: Mm {disfmarker} Maybe . I dunno , but yeah we'll {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Like zapping is just switching one channel at a time .
  User Interface: Yeah , maybe it's not easy if it's below . It's harder to zap . So I think uh it should be should be easy to {gap} . I think it's pretty standard , these rubber buttons on the top .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah okay .
  User Interface: And uh if you don't light 'em up , they don't uh {vocalsound} you don't see 'em very good .
  Industrial Designer: That's that's good , but {disfmarker}
  User Interface: {vocalsound} I think it's modern to light this area up , and to light this area up . So the focus gets on these parts and not on there .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah okay .
  User Interface: But uh the position of course can be different . It's s We have to look uh what's easy to use , and how it's easier to use .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: So we can uh switch these to {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Hmm .
  User Interface: I dunno if it l will look good , if you put those on t on the bottom half .
  Industrial Designer: No , I think th the the top buttons are okay . They sh Those should be on top .
  User Interface: Okay . Yeah , maybe {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: But uh we we can switch those two ,
  User Interface: Those two , yeah .
  Industrial Designer: yeah .
  User Interface: And uh , yeah , you have to make sure it's easy to uh {disfmarker} Yes , it has to be big enough so you can hold it , right . {gap}
  Marketing: Okay .
  User Interface: Well that's that's my findings . So uh my personal opinion is that we should go more modern look . M_P_ three player . And uh well um if we want to put in speech rec recognition or something , we {disfmarker} I don't think we should put it on top then . I think that , if we're gonna put in more technology , that you need to be able to uh switch it open .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah , that's cool .
  User Interface: To use {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: So if you put in uh speech recognition , you need so more uh many more buttons . Which won't look good on the front side I think .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: No .
  User Interface: So that's something we have to decide on .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , we have to keep it simple .
  Project Manager: We have to decide this this lecture , or this this this uh fifty minutes , yeah , how it is gonna look .
  User Interface: Yeah . What we're gonna do . Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Okay , the component design . I looked at uh some similar devices , and uh my own common knowledge . So uh this was on the web site . If you aim at a young public , you should use materials that are soft with primary colours like green , blue , red . So flashy kinda colours . Uh shapes should be curved , so round shapes . Not {disfmarker} Nothing square-like .
  Project Manager: Okay , so {disfmarker} Hmm , okay . {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Yeah well uh iPod is trendy . And it is well curved {gap} square .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Marketing: Square . Like .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but mm is uh has round corners I think .
  User Interface: Okay . So not {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: So we shouldn't have too square corners and that kind of thing .
  User Interface: Yeah okay . Not uh the old uh box look .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . And um sports and gaming device style characteristics . I don't know exactly what that means , but it should be , well yeah , popular kind of
  Project Manager: Yeah , we have to put our Real Reaction logo as well on the on the {vocalsound} remote control .
  Industrial Designer: looking , I think .
  Marketing: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: So the colours also .
  User Interface: Mm {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Yeah , it's {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So we have ha to ma make it in black , black , yellow .
  User Interface: Black yellow control . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Maybe the sides in yellow and the the the top in black .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , mm n Not that weird , because we definitely want to make it kind of flashy , to attract a young public .
  User Interface: Yeah , but uh {vocalsound} I don't think the the colours black and yellow go well together . But {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: We make i Maybe you can put yellow on the side and black on the on the front .
  Industrial Designer: No , okay . That's a that's a sen That's just a matter of tastes , but {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , okay .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: We have to use uh kind of flashy colours , I think .
  User Interface: Uh can't we use um different uh fron uh fronts , with all with the the logo on it ? Can we do that ? So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah , it's cool . Yep .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah . Like fronts in in red and yellow and blue
  Project Manager: And still trans
  User Interface: Yes .
  Project Manager: Still still transparent .
  User Interface: So {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: and {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Oh yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah . But with all with logo on it .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Well this is a remote control , a very old one . Um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Then the components . The case has just a {disfmarker} Here's black .
  Project Manager: Yeah , we make it som Maybe we have to make it from soft material . Uh I'm not sure .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I dunno .
  User Interface: {gap} Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Maybe . But anyways uh it should be transparent . We decided that , huh ?
  User Interface: Well one of the options .
  Industrial Designer: S
  User Interface: You can {disfmarker} Just like a mobile phone , you can make um different fronts on it .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  User Interface: So you can just replace them I think . That was the idea ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , we could do that .
  User Interface: or just uh release one .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Just give five with them , just in a box . {vocalsound} Five different {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , uh {disfmarker} Or just uh sell different ones .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but y you could you could make 'em uh uh like blue and transparent .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Cool .
  Industrial Designer: So you can still th look through it .
  User Interface: Yeah . Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Um the buttons . Normal rubber I think . Like normal ordinary buttons . Soft .
  User Interface: Yeah ,
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: I uh I dunno .
  Project Manager: It it could be like a Nokia , like {gap} plastic .
  User Interface: A more {disfmarker} Yeah , just uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Uh uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: That's better prob
  Industrial Designer: With the hard hard buttons .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: I think uh rubber really has an odd look .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Marketing: Yeah . The the the new uh new modern uh remote controls , uh the buttons are part of the {vocalsound} uh the style , I think is part of the remote control itself .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: It it's one uh a one uh out of one shape . Uh it's n doesn't {disfmarker} Is {vocalsound} uh a button uh um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} How do you say it ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , it's it's all on one level .
  Marketing: It it didn't it i it don't come out of the {vocalsound} on the background .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , on one level .
  Marketing: It is in uh the c a remote control uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I know what you mean . So we have to keep it on the one level . Like th the top it's {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah ,
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: like mobile phones . Like uh the iPod .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: Uh just {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , okay .
  Project Manager: Yeah , that's cool .
  Industrial Designer: Okay , it's chos So that should be hard plastic . Then the buttons ?
  User Interface: {vocalsound} I dunno what uh kind of material it is .
  Industrial Designer: I think . Or maybe {disfmarker}
  User Interface: But {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: But maybe you can m make a uh round fluff or soft material . Just only the basic uh
  User Interface: Oops .
  Project Manager: basic remote control from normal plastic ,
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: and
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: the rounds of it from softer s
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: And um {disfmarker} {vocalsound} Then the L_E_D_ . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: I dunno .
  Industrial Designer: The normal infrared L_E_D_ I think s sufficient . And back light L_E_D_s .
  Project Manager: Y
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Cool .
  Industrial Designer: But I think we have to make the case transparent , otherwise the back light won't work .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: So if you put {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Y i if you {disfmarker} The numbers could be can be {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Uh you can just make them around the buttons uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah , that's right .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  User Interface: Or it runs the whole {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but we can still make it transparent . So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: They can choose .
  User Interface: Yeah , you can halfs transparent ,
  Industrial Designer: Or no
  User Interface: or just that it's comes out a bit .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah okay . Good . And in green colour , the back lights
  User Interface: Different , I think , also .
  Industrial Designer: or {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Blue . {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ?
  User Interface: Blue or red .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Whatever you want it , I think .
  Marketing: {gap} Yeah .
  User Interface: Uh depends on the colour of the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah , but you can't choo You can't choose it when you buy it .
  Marketing: Uh i {gap} {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: You have to choose {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , that's true . But {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: No , but I think there are multiple colour LEDs . So {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Is it {disfmarker} Okay .
  Marketing: Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: I I know {disfmarker} I dunno . Is {vocalsound} {disfmarker}
  Marketing: but can you change it if you already bought the the remote control ?
  User Interface: Yeah , it can .
  Project Manager: Yeah , okay .
  User Interface: 'Cause this a mo mib uh mobile phone as well .
  Marketing: You {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Maybe it's it's more impor more expensive .
  Project Manager: Maybe put some different ones in it . Doesn't matter . It's just {disfmarker} No , just some LED .
  User Interface: I have the mo mi I have a blinking light on my phone .
  Industrial Designer: I think it's {disfmarker}
  User Interface: And I can change the colour of it .
  Project Manager: Okay , cool . Just make it some different colours . Blue , red and green , or something .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I dunno . Maybe it's too expensive , but it {disfmarker} I th I don't think so .
  User Interface: Well , we don't put put in any fancier technology yet . So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Hmm .
  Industrial Designer: Then uh some more technical things .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: I don't know what it is , but it should be there {vocalsound} I think .
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Um this is the normal circuit board , like a chip board in in a lot of uh things .
  Project Manager: Yeah , we have to hurry up a bit , so {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: W {vocalsound} So we d we just need this and {vocalsound} this transistors and resonators . There's all these kind of things .
  User Interface: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Um they they basically said that that's almost the same on any uh remote controls .
  User Interface: I'm sure we can fit in .
  Industrial Designer: So I guess we j we just need that .
  Marketing: {gap}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: I don't know what they do or {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah okay .
  Marketing: Okay yeah ,
  User Interface: We just {disfmarker}
  Marketing: you can you can change {disfmarker} Yeah . No .
  Industrial Designer: Nah , but they just said we need it .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Uh the battery contacts , like normal batteries ca you can put in .
  Project Manager: Yeah , a recharger maybe .
  User Interface: Yeah , we have to make sure to uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah okay .
  Project Manager: We still want to have a recharger , don't we ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah but {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Is that still the {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yes . Yes .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but it i We don't wanna have a ar an {disfmarker} How do you call it ? Accu .
  Project Manager: A recha Oh no . Uh {disfmarker} Battery . It's just a battery . Yeah .
  User Interface: Re recharger . Base station .
  Industrial Designer: Y uh just just batteries , rechargeable batteries .
  User Interface: Yeah , batteries . Yes , rechargeable batteries , I think's best .
  Industrial Designer: Okay . Not a separate {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: No , just rechargeable batteries .
  Industrial Designer: Okay . And uh a chip , that's this one .
  Project Manager: {gap}
  Industrial Designer: Then uh I received some possibilities . Um for the energy source we can use batteries or a kinetic uh {disfmarker} Like with the pulse watch . So it operates on your wrist kinda .
  Marketing: Ah cool . Okay .
  Project Manager: But normally you put a remote control on the table or on the couch .
  User Interface: So if you hold it , it gets powered .
  Industrial Designer: If you hold it . Yeah , I don't think it will work , and {disfmarker} Or we can also use solar cells . But you mostly use it indoors ,
  Project Manager: It's dark in the room . No .
  User Interface: {gap}
  Project Manager: It's just batteries ,
  Industrial Designer: so {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: that's cheaper {gap} .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , and and we can use the home station kind of thing .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Um cases , flat , so uncurved . Uh two D_ curved is um like front to the back . And three D_ curved is also in depth .
  Marketing: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: So that's possible . Uh but with three D_ uh curved uh remote controls , we must use rubber buttons .
  User Interface: Mm . So
  Industrial Designer: So we can't use the flat buttons .
  User Interface: we need uh two D_ .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Definitely .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think . Um these kinda materials can be used .
  Project Manager: But it doesn't really matter , we just make it plastic .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I think so too .
  Project Manager: The scroll wheels , that's cool . That's for the volume .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , scroll wheels um {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , that's good . We can use multiple scroll wheels , w if we want to .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: But I think just the volume is enough .
  User Interface: {gap} Uh {disfmarker} For channels it's not handy ,
  Project Manager: Okay .
  User Interface: because you scroll too fast .
  Industrial Designer: And uh the L_C_D_ . So we need uh the expensive , most expensive chip , if we use an L_C_D_ .
  Marketing: Mm {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: I don't think that's an opportunity . Just skip it . Because we don't have time for that to to put it in .
  Industrial Designer: Okay , then we we use m must use the second most expensive chip . So th so the regular chip . Because we use scroll wheels .
  Project Manager: Yeah , okay .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: And um {disfmarker} Yeah , that was it I guess .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Uh are are we using a a rubber case , or {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Oh just sk
  Industrial Designer: We haven't decided yet .
  Project Manager: Maybe you have to skip that one as well . It's {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Uh I don't think a rubber case looks {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: L
  Marketing: Uh but we have to do something about the trend .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , i it it should be soft . You said so ?
  Marketing: The trend is uh spong spongy uh and uh fruit or fresh fresh .
  User Interface: Yeah , okay . That {disfmarker} Uh fruit and veg , or {disfmarker}
  Marketing: And uh now we have nothing about uh about those those two .
  User Interface: Yeah , fruit and veg can be just the covers .
  Marketing: Uh yeah i Just {disfmarker} Just on front .
  User Interface: So you can {gap} the the spongy {disfmarker} yeah , I dunno . I can't imagine a soft remote control .
  Project Manager: No .
  Marketing: Neith uh I don't like it uh neither .
  Project Manager: No . {gap} {vocalsound}
  User Interface: I just can't imagine it .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} So just hard plastic ?
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah , I think .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  User Interface: Titanium . It's mentioned here uh .
  Industrial Designer: Titanium , uh I think it's too expensive .
  Project Manager: But maybe the form has to be a bit different . Not the sh the square form . Just a bit
  Industrial Designer: Yeah ,
  Project Manager: more rounded .
  Industrial Designer: you can make it curved or mm round . But just in two D_ , not in depth .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Yeah , that's right .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker} We have to decide which one we're going to choose from these . What exactly . Because we have to know it . So the energy uh is the recharger .
  User Interface: {gap}
  Project Manager: We already know that . Just a normal battery .
  User Interface: Yeah . We have batteries .
  Project Manager: Okay . The chip-on-print is a normal one .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: Regular .
  Project Manager: Okay , the case is just a plastic one .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah th yeah , the chip is the the regular one .
  Project Manager: Yeah , re Yeah , regular . Yeah , okay . Yeah , regular .
  Industrial Designer: You have the simple one , regular and advanced . So it's b should be regular uh the second .
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: I think I'll just check it .
  Project Manager: And we need a plastic case , with a scroll wheel . {gap}
  User Interface: Yes .
  Project Manager: That's pretty much it .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: And a flashy light .
  User Interface: User interface concept .
  Project Manager: So uh I'm not sure . But we do I don't know if we expected to draw on this one at this moment . But {gap}
  User Interface: I dunno either .
  Industrial Designer: Mm . Or should we do it in the next meeting ?
  User Interface: Uh I_D_ and U_I_D_ work together on prototype drawing on smart board .
  Project Manager: Yeah . That's for the next one .
  Industrial Designer: So we should did it here ?
  Project Manager: That's for th
  User Interface: So we're staying here ?
  Project Manager: Uh that {disfmarker} I think that's the next next meeting .
  Industrial Designer: Or should we do it in the next meeting ? Okay .
  Project Manager: But you definitely get a specific instruction . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Okay , so now we're ka thirty minutes alone again ?
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: But th think about something that's more rounded . Just {disfmarker} And more {disfmarker} It has to be {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , uh I dunno . But the iPod and etcetera , M_P_ three players , mobile phones .
  Project Manager: Uh a bit . Just just on the top or on the bottom .
  User Interface: Just a bit cur Okay , I'll see if I can see any of those .
  Project Manager: Maybe the wheel can be uh like uh like this . O um if you draw it like this , you get a {disfmarker} What the fuck is it ? {vocalsound} Okay . Mm {disfmarker} Doesn't work . {vocalsound} You see what I mean ?
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} What ?
  Project Manager: If I draw here {disfmarker} {vocalsound} It draws about four centimetres lower than {disfmarker} {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Oh . Okay .
  Project Manager: Nah okay . Just {gap} . Maybe you can make it like this . And this is all the wheel for volume . So that you just um {disfmarker} It's all rounded , so you can do uh turn this one .
  Industrial Designer: Like a very big scroll-wheel . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Yeah , but just not on the top , but uh on the side of it .
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: Maybe , I dunno .
  Industrial Designer: Hmm .
  Project Manager: Okay , so we {vocalsound} have this at the moment .
  Industrial Designer: I think uh you'll get a a lot of uh volume changing when it's not wanted .
  User Interface: Yeah , you {gap} {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay , so
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: we'd have this . Is that okay ?
  User Interface: Yeah ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: that's a little problem , of course , as well .
  Industrial Designer: I think it's probably better .
  Project Manager: And {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but maybe we can make a a plastic , so that you i if you like drop it , it won't change the volume . Only if you use your finger .
  User Interface: Yeah , maybe you just have to make it uh {disfmarker} That's not scrollable too easy .
  Project Manager: Like this . And uh what's the channel choose ? Where do we uh put that ? Still on the bottom
  Industrial Designer: I think in middle .
  Project Manager: or {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Uh wh what is the middle part ?
  Project Manager: That's the numbers .
  User Interface: Numbers , okay .
  Industrial Designer: Uh I think th the numbers should be in the bottom , and and the switch channel in the middle .
  User Interface: Yeah , I agree as well .
  Project Manager: It doesn't make a difference , if you put the s uh the switch channels on side of each other or on top of each other .
  User Interface: Use the dz
  Project Manager: Because you already have the volume here , so {disfmarker} You can also put it here one butt and the other one there . Next to each other . {gap} back and forth .
  User Interface: Yeah , that's right .
  Project Manager: So you can also can put it all on the top , and this , you keep this empty . Because you have to hold it as well .
  Industrial Designer: Or you could do the switch channel up button above the the numbers and switch channel down button below .
  Project Manager: But that's not {gap} want to zap very quick , so {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , I think uh zapping is the highest priority .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , okay .
  Project Manager: Yeah ? Is this a opportunity ,
  User Interface: And then you use those uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: or you don't want a different {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , of course uh .
  Industrial Designer: Uh but I think we we should bu uh put 'em on top of each other , so {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Why ?
  Industrial Designer: Because then it's it's easy to know m if I push the the the up {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: But still the next {disfmarker} It's still the next one . Doesn't make {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but the top the top button is is like you switch channel up , and down button is {disfmarker} {vocalsound} If you put them {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah , but fo from left to right is exactly the same . It ma it doesn't make a big difference .
  User Interface: Yeah . I I think it's {disfmarker} It's it's obvious , I think .
  Industrial Designer: But uh but I I think uh left to right is more often associated with volume , and top down is more with uh channel changing .
  Marketing: Yeah , that's not not {disfmarker} It's not al uh always the same .
  Project Manager: But it's exactly th
  Industrial Designer: In uh {disfmarker} On most on most remote controls .
  Marketing: Every remote control's uh different .
  User Interface: Yeah , I think {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: So so if we use that , they will probably have a long learning uh time .
  Project Manager: I dunno . I {disfmarker} You already have the volume on the side ,
  User Interface: No , uh I think {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: so you can't make it you can't ma make a mistake .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: So it's uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: I think it's s so simple
  Industrial Designer: I dunno .
  User Interface: you just {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So but that's for that's for you ,
  Industrial Designer: Okay .
  Project Manager: 'cause it's {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , okay I'll d I'll take a look at it .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Okay , so hmm . What did {disfmarker} What else we have to discuss about ? I dunno .
  User Interface: Think we need to work uh thirty minutes again ?
  Marketing: Yeah , we have to care that it r uh looks really new . Because uh we still hold on to the uh ordinary uh uh square uh remote control .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: 'Cause wha what I see the only difference i i i in fact is that we use a scroll-wheel on the outside .
  Project Manager: And the LED .
  User Interface: No , you have uh {disfmarker} It is {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but i i it should be round in in shape .
  User Interface: Uh the current uh controllers are all black and plastic .
  Industrial Designer: So {disfmarker}
  User Interface: You have to look at that image of the iPod .
  Marketing: Yes . Okay .
  User Interface: More that uh kind of style .
  Marketing: And a bit uh {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Not not the old grey black {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Uh {disfmarker} Yeah .
  Marketing: Some some kind of bling bling uh mm can we have {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Where you can put a ve Uh we have {disfmarker} If we do it like that we have below have we uh a lot of room to put a nice logo .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Uh the logo was has to be on there . Yeah , that's right .
  Marketing: Uh and how many uh fronts uh fronts do we put on the market then ? Uh five or something ?
  Project Manager: Yeah , five . Let's give five .
  User Interface: {gap}
  Marketing: Or more or {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Maybe you can buy separate ones and uh {disfmarker}
  Marketing: And um uh {vocalsound} uh buy the product . You buy , you get one . And uh basic .
  User Interface: Yeah . Um
  Marketing: Or you can choose one uh if you buy the project .
  User Interface: I think {disfmarker} Yeah . That's your choice , I think huh .
  Industrial Designer: No , tha that will be {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So y you can put the bottom of the remote control in recharger ? Is that is that a good good opportunity ?
  User Interface: Yes .
  Project Manager: So you could put it like that ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , so top down .
  Project Manager: okay .
  Industrial Designer: Hmm ?
  Marketing: Yeah , you sl uh you let it slide in the docking station .
  Industrial Designer: Do we have to design that w as well ?
  Marketing: Yeah . {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: Uh I'm not sure .
  Industrial Designer: The docking station ?
  User Interface: Yeah , I think so .
  Industrial Designer: Hmm .
  User Interface: But th Yeah , that can be very simple . Least .
  Marketing: Yeah , we can b It c it could be just just a square , just a packet .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , just a recharger .
  User Interface: Yeah , just where you're around something . Li Yeah , we had one example .
  Industrial Designer: But we have to make contacts on the on the remote control and the recharger as well .
  User Interface: Mm . Mm .
  Marketing: Yeah ,
  User Interface: Which w
  Marketing: but that's a round one . Maybe we can choose then .
  User Interface: Here you see one that's very round .
  Industrial Designer: Oh yeah , okay .
  User Interface: So I think that can be all kind of shapes .
  Project Manager: But maybe you can just round up the corners a bit . That's all .
  Industrial Designer: Of the remote control ?
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Just round it up {gap} .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: Yeah , so y you don't want uh this uh like the iPod {gap} . But {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: No . Yeah . Yeah .
  User Interface: More rounded . Yeah , I think it will just look like more like this one . Since it's {disfmarker} This is also rounded .
  Project Manager: No , just just the corners .
  User Interface: I think i
  Marketing: {gap}
  User Interface: Yeah okay , tho those are al already a bit cornered . Mm {gap} {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but we can we can do all kinds of uh {disfmarker} As long as it isn is in two D_ we can use all kind of round shapes .
  Project Manager: Shapes .
  User Interface: Yeah okay , but then we have to think of something totally new .
  Industrial Designer: Not in depth . Yeah , but {vocalsound} {disfmarker} Yeah , if if we want to make it kind of , yeah , new .
  User Interface: I've uh {disfmarker} I had a lot of picture of old ones . And all curves have already been done .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: It's a bit annoying , isn't it ?
  Marketing: Yeah . What do we do wrong ? Hmm . Just just more like this and not uh a square .
  User Interface: Yeah okay , yeah well {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but we could do a lot of , lot more curving . I would do it {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah . I know we can do a lot more , but {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah , it {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Like in this kind of shape or {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Uh it's very annoying . Okay .
  Industrial Designer: I dunno . I dunno if it's handy .
  User Interface: {gap} I think it will only look more like the old remote controls .
  Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: This ?
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Industrial Designer: The olden the olden ones had looked like just a square thing .
  User Interface: Yeah okay . But uh I had a lot of pictures {disfmarker} Oh I can show you here {vocalsound} what the old ones look like .
  Industrial Designer: Mm .
  User Interface: Curves , curves .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: You've more {gap} there as well .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , okay .
  User Interface: It wasn't very small one . {gap} very simple .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  User Interface: That is for elderly .
  Project Manager: So we have to make a decision , what kind of form it's gonna have t going to have .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I don't know .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: I think if w My opinion . If we just uh take the iPod , and the same look .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  User Interface: So uh light or just whatever colour , but the same light colours . And uh just with uh together with uh the back-lights b look will look very new .
  Industrial Designer: Mm-hmm .
  User Interface: No rubber buttons or something . Just together with the back-lights you'll get a totally new look . More like the M_P_ three player M_ um P_ M_ P_ three player .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} Yeah .
  Project Manager: And you have the scroll button inside . {gap} Okay .
  User Interface: Yes . Just a simple scrollb
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: But why do we have to round it on the t bottom then ? Of {disfmarker} Skip that one as well .
  User Interface: Doesn't have to be .
  Project Manager: Okay . Yeah , it's cool .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , though that's a trend . If we want to make it . But yeah , I'm not a Trendwatcher , you are . {vocalsound} So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Uh the t the trend is
  Project Manager: Rubber spongy .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound} {vocalsound}
  Marketing: spongy and fruity .
  User Interface: Yeah . No . Spongy
  Marketing: But yeah .
  Industrial Designer: Spongeball kinda .
  User Interface: and {disfmarker}
  Marketing: It's not not a lot of trends I uh I found uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Okay , so we have s still one minute left . So just {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: I think it's okay if you just keep it a bit square .
  User Interface: Mm .
  Industrial Designer: Okay . Yeah ,
  Marketing: It {disfmarker} The th th
  Industrial Designer: I d I don't know n something about ergonomic kind of fits-in-the-hand uh stuff .
  Project Manager: No .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: But I I think it's still for older people . You j still have older people . It's only annoying if it if it's like that f formed like that , like f Whatever . Just you have a normal {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , but we're we're aiming at a young public .
  Marketing: There is one {disfmarker} There's just one overall important aspect is that we must make it fancy and it looks original , and I hope we can uh make it look not like the iPod itself . It must have uh uh uh a very different {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , {gap} idea . But {vocalsound} you're {disfmarker} If you look at the way remote controls are now {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: But i it is it is it is already fancy . Because of the lights on the bottom of it . That's already fancy .
  User Interface: And if you make it look like the iPod {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Yeah , they're all the same .
  User Interface: Yeah okay . So that's already a very big change
  Project Manager: Uh maybe maybe make the the mm the {vocalsound} wha what's it called uh scroll wheel . Make it in in yellow or something . Just like the colours of Real Reaction .
  User Interface: compared to {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Hmm .
  User Interface: Ye yeah . Well uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , we could do that .
  User Interface: Could .
  Marketing: Uh yeah , but uh if you the f uh front , the scroll wheel will still uh be yellow .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: No , I think {disfmarker} Oh .
  Project Manager: It's right .
  User Interface: Think the scroll wheel {vocalsound} won't be very big . Since if you put it uh somewhere , the chances that it will scroll are too big .
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: So it will just be a small small scroll wheel . So it won't uh stick out much .
  Project Manager: Yeah . Maybe the ones we are going to draw there . Maybe we have to ask uh to the the mm to her if it has {vocalsound} if it can work better than this . Because it doesn't work properly . So maybe you have to ask her .
  User Interface: Yeah okay . Well ,
  Marketing: No .
  User Interface: maybe we can just open images there , and I'll paint and paint .
  Project Manager: Okay . Yeah . That's probably {disfmarker}
  User Interface: I'll be able to do a better job .
  Marketing: If you set the pen yeah , he will draw here . Doesn't work .
  Project Manager: {vocalsound} Okay , so just finish it . So we make it a bit like m that one probably . Yeah . Is that okay ?
  Marketing: Yeah , I'll see it .
  User Interface: Bu Yeah , I agree more like iPod {gap} .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Okay , only the colour and the flashy light and the {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yes .
  Project Manager: We just we just skip the the the voca or was it the the speech recognition .
  User Interface: Just a {disfmarker} Speech . Yeah , do we s keep that ? Yeah , I think {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Or keep that ? It's okay . But you'd definitely need a
  Industrial Designer: S {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well uh
  Project Manager: advanced chip .
  User Interface: then it w {vocalsound}
  Industrial Designer: Uh yeah , I don't know . Yeah , I think so .
  Marketing: Uh {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: And we we have to build in a microphone and {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Well that's very easy . We already have uh the beeping of the {gap} home station ,
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , and I do I don't know anything about that .
  User Interface: so {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I d I didn't receive any information on speech recognition ,
  Marketing: No .
  User Interface: Uh strange that I received {vocalsound} the information about that .
  Industrial Designer: so {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Oh that's hard . But {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: So {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Uh the ma the main points I I I uh just said . We have to be original and uh technological innovative . Becau
  Project Manager: Can we just put it speech recognition in it as well ,
  Marketing: Yeah . But {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: okay ?
  User Interface: So
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Ma
  User Interface: shall we {gap} it open then ?
  Project Manager: Yeah .
  User Interface: So we can put all the {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: The function of that in there . Yeah .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Project Manager: And we need a {disfmarker} Probably we need a uh advanced chip then .
  Industrial Designer: Fine . Yeah , we probably do .
  Project Manager: But it doesn't say anything about it ,
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Project Manager: does it ?
  Industrial Designer: No .
  User Interface: Oh yeah , I {disfmarker}
  Marketing: But we don't have any f information about the cost .
  User Interface: No .
  Marketing: We started with information about the cost was now th
  User Interface: I just I just received the {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , uh I have I have some some information about the cost . But just a about the chip .
  User Interface: Yeah .
  Marketing: And how much is the chip ? The the the {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: I don't know how much , but {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Yeah , our division has developed a new speech recognition feature , the integrated programmable sample sensor simple speaker u unit .
  Industrial Designer: Just in inexpensive or {disfmarker}
  User Interface: This is a very small electronic unit , will give a standard answer after it recognise a question .
  Marketing: And how how does it work ? Is it {disfmarker}
  User Interface: Doesn't say . Just {disfmarker} You say record , followed by your question sample , and after a few seconds the answer uh sample . Because uh {disfmarker} So it works like uh good morning remote control , and then the remote control says good morning .
  Project Manager: It doesn't has to say anything . Just {disfmarker} You have to just talk to {disfmarker}
  Marketing: No .
  User Interface: Yeah uh th that's just {disfmarker} It's a {disfmarker}
  Marketing: Does it say does it say something back ?
  Project Manager: Okay , we have to stop it now . So just {disfmarker}
  User Interface: No . Yeah , it {disfmarker} Well that's integrated in the chip , so if you use the speech recognition , that's in it .
  Project Manager: Okay , that's a r That's that's a advanced {disfmarker}
  Industrial Designer: But i it's a separate chip .
  User Interface: I dunno , but if we use speech recognition , that will be in it as well .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Marketing: {vocalsound} Okay .
  Industrial Designer: Yeah , I don't know anything about this ,
  Marketing: Um {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: Yeah , we just decide not to put it in ,
  Industrial Designer: but {disfmarker} Nah .
  Project Manager: because it's too difficult .
  Industrial Designer: I dunno . {vocalsound}
  User Interface: Well it it would be would be a good feature feature .
  Marketing: Yeah .
  Project Manager: Okay , we just put it in , because it's a good feature .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Industrial Designer: {vocalsound}
  Project Manager: We have to stop now .
  User Interface: No no worries about the cost , etcetera .
  Project Manager: Okay , just {disfmarker}
  User Interface: And there's a chip in it that will {disfmarker}
  Project Manager: We have to stop it now .
  User Interface: Okay .
  Marketing: Fine .
input_prefix: What did Project Manager think of the shape of the remote when discussing the remote and the recharger contact?