FGC6064 in Western Iberia and Portugal-Brazil
Autor: Ricardo Costa de Oliveira | Publicado: 2016-10-29T15:36:00-07:00


By 2006 I discovered I was J1 and positive to M365. A thousand years ago Iberia was divided into three different religions and now we know divided into different types of J1 as well.&nbsp;The Christians won the war in Iberia and the Catholic Kingdom of Portugal won the war in Western Iberia. I belong to a male line of Cristãos Velhos - Old Christians shaped by the Portuguese National State first and then by the worldwide Portuguese Empire. After ten years of intense and extremely difficult research we know the STR and SNPs of our very ancient J1 line. I discovered with my FGC test our own J1 Paleolithic line estimated to be 15000 years old, what few genetic genealogists could dare to do as a project ten years ago. We are beggining to discover some very ancient J1-FGC6064 nodes in Western Asia and in Western Europe. The Portuguese-Brazilian cluster has been the most investigated with a very good expansion in the last 1000 years of wars and moving frontiers and one easily recognizable ethnohistorical cluster with defined STR modal and SNPs. I also discovered the existence of matches in Northern Iran, a Caspian cluster and some European dispersed cases. Now we have an original English from Devon J1-M365 at YFull with an estimated TMRCA of 5500 years in relation to our Portuguese cluster. If our common ancestor 5500 years ago had already arrived in Atlantic Western Europe he could be related to some movements and migrations associated with the Atlantic Megalithism, just before Bell Beakers and the big R1b-P312 expansion. Perhaps our ancestor could be from a small Neolithic wave related to the early navigation, early boats and Atlantic fisheries or seafood because our group has been found only close to the Atlantic in Western Iberia and Devon. If our groups arrived independently in Western Europe in any other maritime movements we would need more elements and differents matches to know, what we don't have right now. We still need to test Northern Iranian J1 types with STR matches to our results but in terms of NGS-Y DNA to understand the TMRCA between our Western European groups and the Caspian groups. Unfortunately no Iranian J1 samples have ever been tested with FGC6064 and no full Iranian Y DNA sequences are available, with the isolated exception of Darwish FTDNA#M9697, from the Persian Gulf, 9000-10000 years of distance. There's a taboo or impediment to investigate Iranian and Caspian haplogroups via NGS what would elucidate lots of questions. If we can get NGS-SNPs and Iranian matches with the European groups we still can think in the Alans as a possible source of&nbsp; the dispersion of some types of J1 to Western Iberia.



https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-FGC6064/



1- SNPs of Anatolian, Iranian and European lines: J-FGC6064 FGC6064 Y19466 FGC5993 FGC6067 FGC6102 FGC6065. Formed 15000 ybp, TMRCA 14500 ybp



2 - SNPs of the Iranian Persian Gulf Qatari and the Western European lines: M365, FGC6020, FGC6027-FGC6031, FGC6034, FGC6036, FGC6044, FGC6045, FGC6048, FGC6051, FGC6057, FGC6068, FGC6069, FGC6076, FGC6080, FGC6096, FGC6098, FGC6099, FGC6101, FGC6103, FGC6104, FGC6112, FGC6113, FGC6115, FGC6118, FGC6125-FGC6127, FGC6130, FGC6141, FGC6142, FGC6144, FGC6145, FGC6150, FGC6153, FGC6156, FGC6159, FGC6167, FGC6169, FGC6170, FGC6174

By YFull - J-FGC6031 ZS4173 FGC6117 FGC6174 FGC6167 FGC6031 FGC6038 FGC6126 FGC6153 FGC6080 FGC6113 FGC6060 FGC8030 ZS4152 • FGC8032 FGC6073 FGC6137 FGC6130 M365.1 • M365.4 • M365.2 • M365 • M365.3 FGC6125 FGC5989 ZS4129 FGC6027 FGC6103 FGC6114 FGC6150 FGC6119 FGC6096 FGC6033 FGC6048 FGC6170 FGC6088 FGC6081 FGC6158 FGC6169 FGC6071 FGC6124 FGC6143 FGC6069 FGC6118 FGC6127 FGC6018 FGC6165 FGC6159 FGC6149 FGC6141 FGC6057 FGC6091 FGC6029 FGC6144 FGC6151 ZS4130 FGC6030 FGC6104 FGC6156 FGC6099 FGC6136 FGC6123 FGC6076 FGC6133 ZS4148 FGC6084 FGC6045 FGC6028 FGC6112 FGC6044 FGC6034 FGC6142 FGC6068 FGC6023 FGC6020 FGC6098 FGC6074 FGC6120 FGC6070 FGC6037 FGC6101 FGC6146 FGC6145 FGC6019 FGC6090 FGC6115 FGC6036 FGC6055



3 - SNPs of the Western European lines from England-Devon and Portugal: FGC5987-FGC6019, FGC6021-FGC6026, FGC6032, FGC6033, FGC6035, FGC6037-FGC6043, FGC6046, FGC6047, FGC6049, FGC6050, FGC6052- FGC6056, FGC6058-FGC6063, FGC6065-FGC6067, FGC6070-FGC6075, FGC6077-FGC6079, FGC6081-FGC6095, FGC6097, FGC6100, FGC6102, FGC6105-FGC6111, FGC6114, FGC6116, FGC6117, FGC6119-FGC6124, FGC6128, FGC6129, FGC6131-FGC6140, FGC6143, FGC6146-FGC6149, FGC6151, FGC6152, FGC6154, FGC6155, FGC6157, FGC6158, FGC6160- FGC6166, FGC6168, FGC6171-FGC6173, FGC6175



4 - SNP's of the Portuguese Sousa Lara and Ricardo Costa de Oliveira's line: J-Y19467 FGC6041 FGC6109 Y19468 FGC6040 FGC6035 FGC6085 FGC6107 FGC6026 FGC5992 FGC6168 FGC6066 FGC6025 Y19467 FGC6128 FGC6166 FGC6132 FGC6024 FGC5988 FGC5990 FGC6083 FGC6032 FGC6139 FGC6075 FGC6111 FGC6147 FGC8031 FGC6097 FGC6095 FGC6077 FGC6056 FGC6157 FGC6039 FGC6094 FGC6134 FGC6047. Formed 5500 ybp, TMRCA 1250 ybp



5 - SNPs private of Ricardo Costa de Oliveira's&nbsp;FGC#F7S61A; FTDNA#73612 line: FGC6046 FGC6053 FGC6062 FGC6078 FGC6082 FGC6131 

We observed a YHRD 17/16 match between a Brazilian haplotype and an Iranian Caspian haplotype, what confirms the regularity of the Portuguese-Brazilian cluster and the Iranian cluster in different databases.
Location -&nbsp;&nbsp; 19&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;389i&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;389ii&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;390&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;391&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;392&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;393&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;385&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;438&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;439&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;437&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;448&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;456&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;458&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;635&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;GATA h4
Rasht Gilaki Iran &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -&nbsp; 15&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;13&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;29&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;22&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;10&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;11&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;13&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;12-20&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;10&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;11&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;14&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;20&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;15&nbsp;&nbsp; 18.2&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;21&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;10
Mato Grosso do Sul, Brazil - 15&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;13&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;29&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;22&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;10&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;11&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;13&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;12-19&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;10&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;11&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;14&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;20&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;15&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;18.2&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;21&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;10

https://www.academia.edu/5889836/Western_European_J1-M365_position_in_the_J1_haplogroup_Y_chromosome_phylogenetic_tree

So we still urgently need NGS of the Northern Iranian J1-FGC6064 M365 cases.

Ricardo Costa de Oliveira