IBAMA, ALEMANHA E OS CHEFES DE UC FEDERAIS DO BRASIL
Autor: Jovelino Muniz de Andrade Filho | Publicado: 2015-08-22T13:16:00+02:00


Ainda
na época do IBAMA, fomos participar de uma reunião para estabelecer o contexto
das UC no Brasil e verificar o que era prioritário fazer para melhorar e/ou
minimizar os problemas das áreas naturais protegidas. Participaram alguns amigos chefes de
unidades de conservação na natureza (UC), técnicos da Diretoria de Ecossistemas
(DIREC) - que cuidava da conservação da biodiversidade - representantes do banco alemão KFW e técnicos da GTZ (órgão técnico de
apoio ao governo alemão) e que ajudavam os projetos brasileiros. O evento ocorreu na Ermida Dom Bosco em Brasília.



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Todo o grupo foi dividido em subgrupos para
discutir temas diferentes. Em cada grupo haviam técnicos da DIREC, da GTZ, do
banco alemão e chefes de UC. As discussões iam acontecendo com utilização do
sistema ZOPP, que utiliza fichas e quadros dinâmicos. Nossa tarefa em um dos
momentos era de definir os grandes problemas das UC com colocação de ideias nas
fichas e afixar no quadro mostrando uma relação de causa e efeito. Todos do
subgrupo no qual participei, principalmente os técnicos da DIREC, iam
discutindo e colocando no quadro as sugestões que iam surgindo. As ideias eram
aquelas convencionais (falta de recursos, falta de infraestrutura, falta de....)
e as causas eram ainda mais conservadoras. Eu já tinha alguma experiência e
achava, por exemplo, que haviam recursos disponíveis e que a “falta de
recursos” era em função da baixa preparação e capacitação dos chefes de UC -
bem como dos técnicos da DIREC - dentro de uma visão poliperceptiva /
interdisciplinar. Os técnicos da DIREC não aceitavam. Além disso, grande parte
das minhas sugestões não eram aceitas. Na hora do intervalo tive uma ideia.
Todos tinham ido fazer um lanche. Na volta, um deles ia descrever a relação
entre as ideias. Perguntei ao facilitador da reunião se eu podia fazer uma
coisa que era importante. Eu queria mudar a ordem das fichas com as ideias que
estavam no afixadas no quadro. O facilitador perguntou o que eu queria provar.
Eu contei a história e disse que queria mostrar que os técnicos estavam fazendo
aquele trabalho condicionados por uma visão burocrática e não baseada na
prática real do dia-a-dia das UC. Ele concordou e numeramos as fichas atrás
para guardar o formato original elaborado pelo grupo. E misturamos todas as
fichas aleatoriamente. Em poucos minutos estavam todos de volta. Uma pessoa
então começou a explicar a relação de causa e efeito entre as ideias. Tudo que
falava tinha sentido e a pessoa foi descrevendo as relações. Depois de um tempo
o facilitador falou pra mim: - “Jovelino, acho que é melhor falar agora”.
Então eu pedi a palavra e disse ao grupo que eu havia trocado a ordem das
fichas. A pessoa que estava apresentando disse: - Jovelino você é tão brincalhão!!!
E ia continuar apresentando. Ninguém acreditou que eu havia trocado as fichas.
Então o facilitador interrompeu a apresentação e informou a todos que eu
realmente havia mudado as ordem das fichas. Ficaram todos de boca aberta. Os
gringos do banco alemão e da GTZ tentavam entender o que estava acontecendo. Cochichavam entre si em alemão: o que se passa!?!?!? &nbsp;Eu disse então que achava que o grupo estava estabelecendo relações sem considerar a
realidade do campo (aliás os chefes de UC tinham ido para a esse encontro para
levar essa realidade). Então o facilitador colocou as fichas na ordem que o
grupo havia deixado antes do intervalo. A pessoa que estava apresentando disse:
-
Poxa, o formato modificado&nbsp;parecia bem melhor!!! E sorriu. Eu havia
convencido o grupo e&nbsp;os chefes passaram a ser mais respeitados.
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