Review (4/5): Best pins outthere
just the right size to hold the bun with 4-6 pins for medium length thick hair. Very sturdy. won't see the pins - 2.5" is the best length i find. I wish pins had the round plastic tips on ends, so I dont' poke my daughter every time i make her bun. The ends are kind of sharp, if you make a bun on yourself, you could feel it, but it's hard when you make it for someone else...