Table:
|  |  |  | Payments due by period |  |  |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
|  | Total | 2020 | 2021-2022 | 2023-2024 | 2025-beyond |
| Long-term debt, including interest | $111,586 | $2,807 | $5,876 | $102,903 | $— |
| Operating lease payments | 37,610 | 4,467 | 8,764 | 7,813 | 16,566 |
| Retirement obligations | 6,447 | 757 | 1,429 | 1,328 | 2,933 |
| Total | $155,643 | $8,031 | $16,069 | $112,044 | $19,499 |
Paragraphs:
Contractual Obligations
Our contractual obligations as of December 31, 2019, were:
We have no off-balance sheet arrangements that have a material current effect or are reasonably likely to have a material future effect on our financial condition or changes in our financial condition.
Management believes that existing capital resources and funds generated from operations are sufficient to finance anticipated capital requirements.
Question:
What was the difference between payments due in 2023-2024 between Long-term debt, including interest and  Operating lease payments ?
Answer: 102903-7813 = 95090