ES2004a H00 MEO015 0.37 1.76 Hmm hmm hmm. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 10.99 14.53 Are we we're not allowed to dim the lights so people can see that a bit better? 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 17.88 18.14 Yeah. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 18.87 20.29 Okay, that's fine. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 22.37 23.81 Am I supposed to be standing up there? 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 25.15 26.83 So we've got both of these clipped on? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 25.18 25.6 Okay. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 29.12 30.48 She gonna answer me or not? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 29.86 32.29 Yeah, I've got 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 31.3 33.39 Right, both of them, okay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 34.26 34.72 Yes. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 42.63 43.29 God. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 49.75 53.18 Jesus, it's gonna fall off. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 63.81 64.2 Okay. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 64.2 66.33 Yep, yep. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 71.95 72.06 Okay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 83.82 91.96 Um I'm Sarah, the Project Manager and this is our first meeting, surprisingly enough. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 80.48 81.9 Okay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 91.96 94.74 Okay, this is our agenda, um 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 81.9 83.82 Hello everybody. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 80.5 81.66 Tu tu tu tu 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 83.22 84.03 Hi, good morning. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 108.14 115.89 discuss our own ideas and everything um and we've got twenty five minutes to do that, as far as I can understand. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 101.93 108.14 Um then we'll go do tool training, talk about the project plan,
ES2004a H01 FEE013 95.68 101.93 we will do some stuff, get to know each other a bit better to feel more comfortable with each other. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 121.54 126.99 Um, we want it to be original, something that's uh people haven't thought of,
ES2004a H01 FEE013 149.58 159.4 um what needs need to be fulfilled by the product, um what effects the product has to have and how it's actually going to do that. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 126.99 132.01 that's not out in the shops, um, trendy, appealing to a wide market,
ES2004a H01 FEE013 142.83 149.58 Okay, um, first is the functional design, um this is where we all go off and do our individual work,
ES2004a H01 FEE013 117.62 121.54 Now, we're developing a remote control which you probably already know. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 132.01 142.83 but you know, not a hunk of metal, and user-friendly, grannies to kids, maybe even pooches should be able to use it. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 159.4 160.94 Um, conceptual design, 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 162.31 167.8 what we're thinking, how it's gonna go and then the detailed design, how we're actually gonna put it into practice and make it work. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 168.79 168.88 'Kay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 184.1 186.12 So 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 170.38 172.03 Okay, right. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 172.03 184.1 We're gonna practice with the pens and draw our favourite animal on the white board, I'll go first, and um sum up the characteristics of that animal. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 188.28 188.43 Oops. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 188.83 192.07 Okay, I'll leave space for everyone else. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 192.07 192.97 Um 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 211.46 211.97 What's missing? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 243.22 244.33 We're running out of blue. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 246.93 247.89 Okay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 247.89 250.6 I'm not gonna ask you to guess, I'm going to tell you that's supposed to be a tiger. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 252.48 252.56 Mm. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 254.53 257.24 And I see them as majestic, 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 255.91 256.25 Oh sorry. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 258.31 258.64 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 259.89 262.25 and independent, 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 266.18 266.97 and 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 268.7 269.06 proud. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 272.31 275.42 Now, who would like to go next? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 275.42 275.8 'Kay. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 275.08 275.45 Yeah, me. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 277.31 279.75 Cat. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 285.14 286.61 Where did this come from? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 289.66 290.1 There you go. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 287.57 289.66 Is that your lapel then? 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 290.68 293.32 Thank you. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 293.32 296.02 Uh, maybe you can guess what I'm trying to make? 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 289.08 290.68 Uh, yep. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 306.38 307.2 A kind of dog? 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 309.22 310.08 Yep. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 319.14 321.86 Okay, I see it as one thing it's very supportive. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 313.47 319.14 It's actually sitting, so it's sitting, it's not standing. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 315.69 317.39 It's sitting down. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 315.85 316.3 Sorry? 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 317.89 318.62 Uh. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 340.96 351.06 dogs can som sometimes can make out between a thief and a person so basically these are the three unique features I think belong to a dog. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 324.13 327.73 It's your best friend and your you can talk to a dog, it can be your best friend,
ES2004a H00 MEO015 351.06 351.47 Thank you. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 331.36 340.96 Second it's loyal and third thing it's got intuition. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 327.73 331.36 it doesn't discriminate between you, based on what you are. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 344.91 345.36 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 350.01 351.09 Okay, thank you. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 353.48 355.55 Yeah I'll have a go. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 354.11 354.82 Okay. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 356.33 356.9 Sorry. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 356.51 362.14 Please, please leave me a space at the bottom, I'm little, you can get to the top, with standing on a chair. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 356.98 357.37 Thanks. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 361.74 367.65 Well since you guys have chosen the ones I wanted to do, I'll have to have to go for something a bit random. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 359.11 361.74 Alright, okay. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 364.33 367.84 Does it look like a dog actually? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 364.6 366.01 Okay. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 371.43 375.29 And also, my drawing skill isn't that great so, yeah. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 373.84 376.86 Well, as you can see, the quality of the work today is um 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 375.08 375.43 Mm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 376.8 378.94 I think it's outstandingly good. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 379.6 384.48 Okay, now I'm gonna have to change what is was originally gonna be because that looks like a beak now, so. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 397.95 406.27 Well it was it was an at first firstly it was an attempt at a T. Rex and then it sort of changed into a pelican but it can be a crocodile now actually. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 390.41 397.95 Yeah, it can be a crocodile, it can be a crocodile. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 391.13 391.74 Crocodile? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 393.99 394.92 Gonna be a bird. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 396.31 399.8 Is it gonna be it's gonna be a bird. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 403.24 403.35 O 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 420.11 420.95 That's lovely. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 425.97 426.55 Um 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 421.2 425.97 Yeah and uh I'll have to think on the spot of uh things that it is. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 421.44 422.34 Beauti that's 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 428.12 430.22 uh scary, 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 432.48 434.37 uh strong, 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 438.74 441.99 yeah that's about it I think. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 439.85 441.77 Okay it's fine. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 440.14 442.12 Okay. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 443.16 447.95 Um, I'm very impressed with your artistic skills, mine's are dreadful. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 447.95 450.85 Oops this is now coming apart, let me just put the top in. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 445.23 446.68 Uh uh 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 450.45 451.74 Wo 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 454 456.94 I hope that clicks in, I'll just I'll hold it on, okay. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 457.97 460.57 Oops, oh dear, what happened there? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 461.09 462.16 Technical help. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 465.38 468.51 Hopefully that'll stay on, two-handed version. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 468.51 470.88 Okay, uh 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 465.48 465.99 Hmm. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 467.94 468.7 Okay. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 474.41 479.35 Again this is off the top of my head, I was gonna do a big cat too, um. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 476.71 477.79 Uh 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 481.26 484.68 Oh dear, it doesn't look what like what I want it to be. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 481.27 481.66 Hmm. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 484.48 484.72 S 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 487.1 487.71 Uh. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 487.43 487.92 Uh 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 488.77 491.41 It's not a vampire bat honestly. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 489.66 491.34 Okay, yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 516.12 518.66 Da dum um. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 492.9 497.78 Uh and somewhere there's a body behind. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 499.96 508.09 that's it's meant to be an eagle you can tell it's a flying animal could have been a seagull, I never thought of a seagull. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 497.78 499.96 That's my dreadful that's the worst yet,
ES2004a H03 FEE016 511.49 516.12 I suppose they're all so independent, I'd put that one down again. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 508.09 511.49 An eagle, um again I'm thinking on my feet goodness. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 497.4 499.98 Okay, some sort of bird. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 501.19 504.66 A seagu right, not a seagull. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 501.76 503.22 Ah eagle, right okay. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 501.78 502.67 Eagle, okay. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 519.87 520.95 They're good at golf. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 526.24 526.91 Oh. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 520.28 524.92 Indepen independent, right, did you say they're good at golf? 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 524.92 526.24 Are they? 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 529.2 536.6 I'd say they're quite free-spirited, flying around everywhere, doing their own thing. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 526.91 529.2 Oh right, okay, I'm not good at golf. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 524.13 525.96 Eagle. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 524.3 528.63 Yeah, no yeah, an eagle. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 541.42 547.15 And uh, birds of prey aren't they, oh dear, intrepid. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 547.15 549.53 I'll put that, intrepid. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 545.3 545.64 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 553.66 556.77 There we go, hope that pen's gonna be okay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 554.48 555.15 That's lovely. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 558.66 559.33 Whoops. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 561.11 561.6 Okay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 565.46 574.64 Um finance-wise, we've got a selling price at twenty five Euros, which I don't actually know what that is in Pounds, at all. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 563.12 565.46 That was fun, right. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 574.64 575.32 Any ideas? 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 575.11 577.66 It's about mm, mm yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 576.51 577.21 Seventeen. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 576.76 578.71 One point four or something like that. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 578.71 581.5 One point four Euro would make a Pound or something like that. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 580.85 587.57 Yeah, yeah, something like that, so that yeah about seventeen, seventeen Pounds, something like that. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 582.6 582.91 Yeah. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 585.12 586.38 Seventeen. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 583.85 585.12 D fifteen? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 586.38 587.98 Okay, that's expensive. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 584.88 585.97 Seventeen Pounds. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 589.54 591.74 We can just refer to this later can't we? 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 588.37 589.54 Should we be making notes of this? 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 591.74 592.28 Yeah, okay. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 590.86 591.37 But 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 590.98 595.92 I think so, I think so, I'll be able to um pull it up, or I could put it in the shared folder or something. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 593.8 594.27 Okay. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 594.19 603.21 Havi having said that though, if you wanna get one of those the the ones on the market at the moment they're s they're about twenty pounds anyway. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 603.21 608.09 So, it'd still be yeah, we had to buy one. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 603.51 604.22 Right. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 603.88 604.22 Really? 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 605.84 606.02 So 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 606.66 607.02 Mm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 608.09 613.92 so I suppose later it depends if we want to undercut the price, we d or or is it going to make our product look a cheapie-cheapie option? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 608.13 609.29 I think 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 613.51 617.82 Yeah, um production cost's at twelve fifty, so 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 614.07 614.89 Hmm. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 617.54 619.59 Okay, pretty huge margin. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 624.26 629.44 Um, and profit aim is fifty million Euros, which is uh 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 619.13 624.26 half of the selling price is taken up by building it. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 621.46 622.16 Yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 622.02 622.23 Mm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 623.85 624.23 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 630.37 631.2 In our first year? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 631.29 636.42 Yi yes, um yeah, I presume so. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 636.42 637.19 Um 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 635.54 635.88 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 636.39 637.1 So then 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 648.23 651.11 any particular thing, it's everyone user-friendly to everyone. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 651.11 651.49 Okay. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 638.1 648.23 You've got market range international and you did say earlier it's got to be a um accessible and usable by sort of all age groups just t we're not focusing on business market,
ES2004a H01 FEE013 645.17 645.59 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 649.13 650.29 No, yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 653.41 655.4 Big target group. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 662.22 669.7 um making that a key point, just that it's going to be in the international market like Australia, America, things like that. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 669.7 670.24 Okay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 653.57 662.22 So yes, yes, I don't think we have to I don't think it's a case of worrying about different languages and things like that,
ES2004a H03 FEE016 661.85 662.2 No. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 666.69 666.94 Mm. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 702.7 704.83 but that was quite good, the fact that you could 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 699.39 702.7 I think it was quite a cheapie as well, so that might have had something to do with it,
ES2004a H01 FEE013 683.47 691.67 a T. V. and a sort of amp thing all set up so we got one of the universal remote controls,
ES2004a H01 FEE013 678.29 683.47 I mean I've got we got um we had three videos 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 691.67 699.39 um that you programme each of your things into, but that kept losing the signals so we'd have to re-programme it every now and again. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 675.2 678.29 What are your experiences with remote controls? 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 687.25 687.56 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 688.13 688.44 Yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 691.12 691.89 Alright. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 691.23 692.13 Yeah. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 691.49 692.22 Yeah, that c 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 701.09 701.69 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 701.1 701.88 Yeah uh. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 705.18 706.72 Use all the ones at the same time. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 705.96 708.91 You didn't have six remote controls sitting in front of you. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 708.07 708.55 Right. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 708.61 711.04 Okay, you wanna integrate everything into one like 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 711.24 713.32 Yeah, 'cause you 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 712.92 717.17 My experience has only been being given the remote control with the object I buy,
ES2004a H03 FEE016 717.17 722.44 not doing any tampering with it and programming, using it to programme T. V. and uh uh videos and things. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 722.44 727.68 But basically on, off, volume up and down, channel one, two, th that basic functions,
ES2004a H03 FEE016 711.88 712.92 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 727.68 736.05 I don't think I could go any further with it than that, so, I suppose it's got to be something usable by someone like me as well. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 712.33 712.72 Okay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 727.67 728.16 Mm. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 737.3 751.76 I mean and you don't want to I hate I hate looking at a control and seeing a million tiny little buttons with tiny little words saying what they all do and just sitting there searching for the teletext button or something like that. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 734.98 737.3 Yeah, the main that's the main stuff anyway 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 737.29 737.67 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 746.42 746.84 Mm. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 747.66 747.95 Yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 749.82 750.81 Mm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 750.81 755.29 And symbols that you don't necessarily understand, symbols you're meant to understand that you don't. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 752.59 752.95 Yeah. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 754.86 755.92 Um. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 755.18 758.06 So simplification of symbols you could think of. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 757.43 770.73 When they're when you've got the main things on the front of it and a section opens up or something to the other functions where you can do sound or options kind of recording 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 772.83 779.79 'Cause it doesn't make when you pick it up it doesn't make it really complicated to look at, it's obvious what you're doing, um. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 770.73 772.83 things like that inside it. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 768.52 768.98 Oh yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 772.32 772.69 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 775.6 775.84 Mm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 777.34 777.65 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 777.92 778.66 Mm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 787.04 794.48 it's got a menu display, I wonder if incorporating that into the design of a remote control might be useful, so you've got a little L. C. D. display. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 779.78 783.26 Actually that just raises a point, I wonder what our design people think,
ES2004a H03 FEE016 783.26 787.04 but you know on a mobile phone, you can press a key and it gives you a menu,
ES2004a H00 MEO015 784.99 785.28 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 787.08 787.74 Menu, alright. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 792.17 792.62 Yeah. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 792.89 793.6 Uh uh 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 800.57 806.03 may h maybe have an L. C. D. di display or something like that, like a mobile, yeah and with menus. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 806.03 812.03 And if it's s somewhat similar to what you have on mobile phone, people might find it easier to browse and navigate also maybe. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 794.46 800.57 Right, I was thinking on the same lines you, instead of having too many b buttons and make it complicated for the user,
ES2004a H03 FEE016 803.8 805.92 With menus, yeah, yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 811.15 811.49 Yeah. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 812.35 813.65 What about the older generation? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 813.65 815.09 What about granny and grandads? 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 815.21 818.96 You mean to save it lesser number. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 816.15 823.63 Um, my grandad can answer his mobile phone, but he couldn't even dream of texting or something like that. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 819.96 820.26 Yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 822.52 823.79 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 823.79 827.97 Can he programme his remote control or is it basic with that too? 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 821.35 822.52 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 826.06 826.35 Right. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 828.12 831.51 I don't think they tape things, I don't think they use 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 829.37 834.05 Yeah, my grandad's actually better than me at using teletext, so. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 830.05 830.6 Right. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 833.26 833.8 Right. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 839.27 844.64 that's gonna be a problem anyway with the older generation perhaps, and that's another issue how we tackle that. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 834.64 839.27 So that's a problem regardless of of any design modifications you you come up with,
ES2004a H02 MEE014 838.64 839 Yeah. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 841.2 843.24 Mm, yeah, the age gap. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 843.73 849.58 Yeah, what it just needs to be as long as it's sort of self-intuitive and you can can work out 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 850.98 852.79 what everything's doing, 'cause I mean 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 852.79 861.94 menus on sort of new phones now they've sort of got all these pictures and stuff which makes it fairly obvious what you're trying to do. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 862.33 862.76 Mm. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 863.21 863.53 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 864.3 871.74 I don't know, I d I don't like the, you know the new phones that have kind of got a Windows-based running system. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 864.43 865.88 But I don't know how 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 870.18 870.69 Oh yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 872.2 872.59 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 876.83 882.87 I di I've not got a new one but uh my friend got a new one and I was trying to do things with it and I just kept getting lost 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 882.87 883.24 but 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 872.95 876.83 I find it really confusing, I kept getting lost in the phone 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 878.36 878.8 Right. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 884.38 885.17 that's just me. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 893.7 899.31 you'd you'd have to sort of keep it down to a black and white L. C. D. thing anyway, I'd assume. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 885.18 893.7 Yeah, I don't I don't know how for twenty fi, or twelve Euros fifty how much of a excellent screen you could get,
ES2004a H01 FEE013 893.63 894.31 Yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 895.43 895.75 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 898.71 905.64 Is it possible that that for the older generation you could have like an extra button that you press for large print like you do in large print books? 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 905.64 911.78 Obviously it displays less on the screen, it displays less on the screen but as long as they can read it that's the main thing. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 905.32 905.7 Okay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 905.77 907.5 Teletext has got that option as well. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 911.86 912.35 Yeah. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 929.64 934.88 obvious symbols and that's where you control recording and things like that. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 913.69 917.37 Or what about kind of a dual function? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 917.37 929.64 In that you've got the basic buttons just for your play, volume, programme things and also and then a menu to go into with obvious pictures 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 923.65 924.04 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 930.7 931.44 Yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 932.99 933.37 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 934.74 935.18 Mm. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 940.12 943.53 it could have a flip top remote control so that when you flip over the top 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 935.18 940.12 The other thing is, just ch chucking into mobile phone f design features again 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 943.53 947.56 your screen is you can have a bigger screen in the the flip over. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 945.43 945.84 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 946.04 946.66 Mm, okay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 948.48 953.16 I think that's a cost thing, I don't I don't know how much we're gonna know about 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 948.6 949.09 S 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 949.9 950.21 Y 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 957.38 959.24 But it might have its cost implications. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 950.91 957.38 It might it might save a b bit of space, it's i instead of looking bulky, it might look small. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 951.06 951.41 Yeah? 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 954.93 955.27 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 956.02 958.07 Yes, no that's important. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 956.78 958.6 Yeah, like smaller. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 957.25 957.6 Yeah. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 959.48 960.29 Okay. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 969.16 972.45 Sorry I'm treading on your territory guys. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 966.35 969.16 Something that's easily moulded and produced. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 959.69 966.35 And there's no reason we need to make it look as fashionable and stylish as a mobile phone, it can still be lightweight plastic, you know? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 965.1 965.57 Mm. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 966.22 966.48 Right. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 968.84 969.23 Yeah. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 970.68 971.79 No uh uh 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 979.35 979.94 Um 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 970.97 979.35 Um, right, okay we've got half an hour before the next meeting, so we're all gonna go off and do our individual things. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 981.2 989.51 I think that's probably about it and then we'll come back and liaise again and I get to do another fantastic PowerPoint presentation. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 985.49 988.8 Yeah. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 1005.24 1014.84 so I think think the whole design thing might be qui I mean you don't you you can still have plastic and it'd look quite good but 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 996.66 1005.24 The sort of I I had a quick look at the company website and it's like the the uh we put the fashion into electronics 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 988.8 996.66 Just just a quick thing about the um about what you're saying about the uh does does it need to be fashionable? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 991.07 991.47 Sure. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1005.06 1005.74 Ah right. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 1005.79 1006.25 Okay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 1005.86 1006.44 Okay. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1006.9 1007.5 Okay. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1009.16 1011.3 Sure b y yeah. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1019.45 1022.1 I don't know if using plastic does make it cheaper, I presume it would. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1013.7 1017.2 But yeah, I mean it doesn't have to be that,
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1017.2 1019.45 you know th that was my main point, we don't have to use metal,
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1022.1 1024.41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 1018.54 1018.91 Yeah. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 1019.99 1020.49 Mm. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 1022 1022.74 Yeah. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 1022.74 1022.96 Yeah. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 1022.32 1023.99 I would it would probably. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 1025.04 1026.89 I mean there's Sky remote controls and everything. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 1026.89 1032.58 They're kind of moulded and look a bit different, and the Telewest remote controls are silver plastic,
ES2004a H01 FEE013 1038.65 1041.56 Okay, so let's break it up there. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 1032.58 1038.65 which looks a bit smarter, so yeah I guess that's stuff we can think about. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1032.93 1033.34 Right. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1037.32 1037.95 Okay. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1042.19 1042.3 'Kay. 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 1042.4 1043.13 Okay? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 1043.13 1044.16 So, see you in half an hour. 
ES2004a H02 MEE014 1042.58 1043.43 Okay. 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1046.42 1048.29 Do we go back to our room? 
ES2004a H03 FEE016 1048.29 1048.48 Yep? 
ES2004a H01 FEE013 1047.76 1049.04 I think so, yeah. 
ES2004a H00 MEO015 1048.05 1048.38 Mm, yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 0.2 4.83 Help. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 9.82 10.8 That screen's black. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 8.18 9.82 It's up there? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 37.04 38.83 Alright, okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 38.83 39.72 Okay, that's fine. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 47.68 49.18 Oh God. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 55.45 55.86 Are we done? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 74.2 78.86 Um, right our agenda for today, do you want us to give you a second? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 66.81 74.2 Right, okay um, this is our second meeting and I might be a bit all over the place. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 80.31 81.52 Uh, no that's okay, sorry. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 81.27 83.53 Okay, um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 85.93 88.7 I'll go over what we decided last meeting, 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 89.12 89.38 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 90.54 91.15 um, 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 92.63 99.12 we decided upon a universal control, one handset for all, T. V., video 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 100.62 101.81 equipment. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 112.16 120.23 We decided it was important to reflect the company's image in our product, we put fashion in electronics, you know that kind of s thing. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 101.81 112.16 Um, that it was important that the product was accessible to a wide range of consumers, wide age range, not limiting anyone. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 120.23 129.47 Um, our budget would have to affect um try not to reflect our budget, um that we might 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 100.7 100.94 Sorry. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 143.4 144.13 Um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 136.33 143.4 Um dissonance between what our budget was and what we want it to look like. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 131.41 136.33 have a bit of oh oh you can see it, okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 144.85 148.69 want it to look uncluttered, undaunting to the customer. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 148.69 159.36 We discussed a flip-open design, um reducing the size of the control and an electronic panel um for further features like programming, things like that. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 163.24 166.8 Um, three presentations, I've got written here so 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 161.19 163.24 Okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 168.66 170.62 shall we hear from Marketing first? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 171.01 175.84 Um is it okay if I postpone that til later, I just want to get access to a little bit more information, is that okay? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 175.03 177.32 No that's fine, that's fine. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 177.91 179.31 Can I grab the 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 176.5 177.91 Okay, yeah I'll go first. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 179.07 179.82 Unplug me. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 182.12 183.41 Thanks. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 191.55 192.24 What do I have to press? 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 192.24 193.32 Oh, F. eight? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 194 195.12 Um, F. N. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 195.96 197.26 function F. eight. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 196.84 197.89 Oh right, yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 200.97 201.45 Okay. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 203.67 204.61 Maybe 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 209.34 209.78 Yep. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 209.98 210.62 Yep there we go. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 212.5 218.49 Okay this is uh the working design, presented by me, the uh Industrial Designer extraordinaire. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 225.01 228.85 What the first thing question I asked was what are we trying to design? 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 228.85 233.58 Well, a device which basically just sends the signal to the T. V. to change its state,
ES2004b H02 MEE014 219.96 225.01 'Kay, this is where I went a bit mad with PowerPoint so. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 233.58 238.44 whether that be the power, or the channel um or the volume 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 238.44 246.92 everything is just um some sort of signal to change the state of the T. V. or other appliance that it's sending the signal to. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 257.38 260.06 But uh although we will want to be taking 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 249.03 257.38 Um, so I decided I'd have a look at what th other people have designed and try and take some inspiration from that. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 261.48 272.08 ideas from other people, we wanna make sure that our design stands out and I thought that was something that well it wasn't really my area because 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 321.73 322.22 Yeah sure. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 302.49 303.87 Now our one 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 298.52 302.49 Um, most of them are powered by some form of battery. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 294.82 298.52 wireless and, you don't need to send very much information. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 280.55 294.82 Um and uh I found out that most uh controls use some form of infrared to send signals to the T. V. presumably because of the cost issue of uh something like uh the same thing that computers use,
ES2004b H02 MEE014 303.87 321.73 I'm I'm not sure whether we want to look at the size issue because most of them are powered by triple A. batteries but those can be quite bulky so I d I didn't know if you wanted to look at something else um so we could shrink down the size of the control. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 272.66 274.89 I'm dealing with the inside really. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 274.89 280.55 So um, yeah I ran out of time so I couldn't do this one as fun as the last one. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 323.02 326.75 You're saying the triple A. batteries are small or the surrounding it? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 319.7 323.02 Could I can I interject to ask a question there, is that appropriate? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 319.14 319.7 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 321.51 321.97 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 326.17 332.53 if you if you look at if you look at most remote controls they're quite they're quite chunky and that's because of the size of the batteries 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 354.61 360.32 Um, now the ones at the moment are small but I was just wondering if we could look at something a bit smaller. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 347.54 354.61 Um, and d which leads sort of onto the next point about 'em being small and easy to carry round. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 332.53 337.69 they have to be obviously this certain size to fit those batteries in. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 337.69 347.54 Yeah the the well you can you can get the sort of circular round ones but I'm just wondering about power consumption and how much you need to send the data across. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 325.58 326.17 Um no no 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 330.58 330.96 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 335.95 338.76 Right, the triple A. s are the smallest you can get are they not, right? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 338.28 338.73 They are. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 338.55 338.75 Okay. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 341.57 342.56 Oh I see. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 345.51 345.9 Okay. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 361.19 368.8 Now the main components I came up with um were obviously the power source for the batteries 'cause otherwise it's not gonna work 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 373.34 392.12 we can uh discuss that later and then you obviously need something to decode the information that you're putting in from from the controller and to turn it into an i uh infrared signal which we're going to use to send the information. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 401.49 407.24 which not most people do so as we're applying to the most audience that should be fine. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 368.8 373.34 uh as I said about the w which batteries we were gonna choose 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 392.12 401.49 Now these have a wireless range of up to about five metres which is sort of suitable for anyone who's watching the T. V. unless they're in a cinema 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 407.24 417.86 And then I was uh just had a quick look at the external design but I d I left that mostly to the uh interface designer. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 433.07 441.8 we've just got the the power going to the infrared bulb with the chip and the uh U. I. interface um 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 419.18 422.76 And so this is what I had as the basic idea of what we wanna do. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 422.76 428.28 It's not a proper circuit, I'm not sure if it'd work or not 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 428.28 433.07 I'm not even confident that those are the real um the real way you'd wire it up but anyway 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 444.4 453.51 when you when you pressed anything it would the chip would convert it into some form of I. R. data which could be decoded by the T. V. receiver 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 453.51 458.81 which obviously means that we're gonna have to conform to whatever 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 443.35 444.4 which would basically 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 499.53 512.25 uh because they're small they're also easy to lose so if we could look into some way of d dunno some anti-going down the side of the sofa thing that you could have 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 472.4 473.88 And then finally 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 487.72 495.34 Um it should should be different enough um from the alternative products to get a good consumer base 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 473.88 487.72 um we want uh the it to be available to a wide audience at a low cost so all the components that I've put forward are uh low in cost so that that should be good. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 512.25 517.07 I th that was just sort of a general point there. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 459.92 472.4 um whatever form of communication that the T. V. s are already using and since that that's another use and reason to use that infrared because that's what all T. V. s use at the moment. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 517.07 519.03 And that's uh yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 495.34 499.53 we were talking about it before and also just something that I was thinking about 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 500.24 500.96 Mm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 509.72 510.23 Mm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 517.15 523.58 That's a very important part, it came up in our market research findings too so I can refer to that, whenever you like me to present. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 515.94 517.15 Mm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 521.71 528.65 Alright okay, and yeah, that's that's what I came up with there, so if you wanna 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 530.17 532.35 Um, would you like to continue on from that? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 527.66 530.17 Okay, thank you very much. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 531.35 531.92 Yep. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 534.45 534.6 Ooh. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 535.76 536.24 'Kay. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 536.24 538.99 It can be okay, that's okay with me. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 535.91 538.54 Or, maybe move the laptop over. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 544.49 545.49 further. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 572.79 572.98 Oops. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 591.04 593.21 Why's it not working? 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 593.21 593.79 F. eight, right? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 594.77 596.3 F. function. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 595.48 596.79 Function F. eight yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 596.59 597.13 Okay. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 602.55 604.16 Mm why's it in the right? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 602.63 602.91 No. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 604.86 607.28 The plug hasn't come out at the bottom, has it? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 607.28 607.59 No. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 606.73 608.14 Yeah, it's connecting. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 607.45 610.98 No, no yeah it's just. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 609.04 610 Meter adjusting. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 611.8 613.67 okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 612.74 613.55 Oh, there. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 625.15 635.47 just a couple of valuable points and started developing on that and there might be some missing loops in this thing which I think we'll uh take a feedback from the marketing because 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 614.77 616.2 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 616.2 625.15 Actually mm some of my points might overlap with what William's just mention, but basically my method was like uh whatever brainstorming we did in the last meeting 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 618.67 619.07 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 636.91 642.55 um, I haven't had some marketing data and basically every product is marketable. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 649.19 652.98 And to summarise I I would say it's it should be user-friendly by being easy to use, 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 642.55 649.19 So purpose, as William already said, I would put it to simplify the interaction with T. V. to make make it as simple as possible. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 654.04 661.92 rather than having a lot of complex button because you can have an engineering maybe having hundred buttons and maybe having uh a remote control which has the main features 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 663.15 666.22 like volume control or channel ch changing the channel or whatever. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 693.51 706.54 So it's like it could be accessed by a wide ra range of uh audience and we can punch in new f features such as uh added features such as shock proof body and maybe a design to appeal to a lot of people. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 677.37 690.35 The main functions such as which are like often used will be on the top and the complex functions which say you you can say like the y young generation or trendy generation want to pr say programme their favourite channels or whatever 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 674.62 677.37 So what the concept is to have a flip-top model. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 690.35 693.51 can be put in the middle part of the f flip-top. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 667.41 674.62 But we are to to make it unique so that people want to buy it, will this two features together. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 728.14 736.49 As we saw we we have to make a profit also so we we can maybe go for an economies of a higher production mm by fifty million we said? 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 736.49 743.78 Yeah, with that I think we'll be able to achieve economies of scale also, so we can give in add in more features and make it less costly. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 708.26 728.14 Findings most people prefer us user-friendly rather than complex remote controls because there are times like uh people have used a remote control for say a year or something and they they are not used maybe thirty to forty percent of the buttons so it's not of no use of punching in the uh trying to put in those things in on the top of the remote control and try to confuse the user. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 736.03 736.36 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 745.44 746.11 Um, 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 747.62 752.12 that's so this is if you ask me personally, I would make uh 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 754.47 767.62 flip-top with a trendy uh uh design and s maybe we we should look at also like the buttons whe whether they are like soft or little hard because they are times when the buttons tend to be a bit hard after uh continuous use usage and all that. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 767.62 769.03 So in overall a simple and uh 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 762.29 762.86 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 770.84 771.76 user-friendly design. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 772.45 773 Mm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 773.02 774.69 Uh any comments like, if you want? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 773.23 773.66 'Kay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 778.86 784.35 okay so if anyone wants to write something down that they want to bring up at the end, um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 775.51 778.86 Um, I think we'll chat about it at the end,
ES2004b H00 MEO015 778.4 779.37 Okay. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 782.79 783.21 'Kay. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 782.92 783.7 Yeah sure. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 788.55 790.91 Ooh, it's vibrating, that's strange. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 792.6 793.39 Oh, God. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 802.68 803.36 Right, okay. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 805.69 806.53 Does it matter? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 803.09 805.69 Have I got to keep this here? 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 803.45 804.68 I think you'll have to 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 805.44 806.61 You can't 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 807.27 809.5 It'll have to this can't be pulled. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 815.94 817.4 Will it manage? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 811.85 815.94 Uh, whoops. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 817.4 820.67 Bit more, oh dear. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 808.75 811.85 I'll have t I'll have to move it won't I? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 809.59 811.03 We just do the best we can. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 813 814.24 You'll have to push it a bit more. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 817.97 818.22 Yep. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 819.28 820.28 Yeah this is more than enough. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 826.6 828.31 There we go, I've got a bit more of the cable. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 827.03 827.85 Okay. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 828.11 828.82 Oh. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 830.72 830.98 There we go. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 831.36 832.35 Is that okay? 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 834.36 835.5 Yeah I think you can pull it out now. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 836.79 839.9 Thank you, just pull it closer a little bit. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 840.09 843.98 Uh you should be able to and yeah, there you go. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 841.3 841.97 Yeah, you might. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 841.71 843.87 Get it right over, okay, thank you. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 843.75 843.92 Ah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 844.9 845.43 Look at that. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 845.63 857.25 Okay, um, I'm going to look at the functional requirements from the marketing point of view and uh obviously our starting point with marketing is always market research. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 861.49 866.7 the company's usability lab, we did our usual selection methods to get a cross-section of the general public,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 857.25 861.49 Um, so that's where we started, we used our our usability lab,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 866.7 872.19 male and female, all age groups from fifteen upwards and um we observed them in the lab,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 872.19 876.26 just their general use of the remote control, you can see we had a hundred subjects there. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 876.33 880.97 Our findings, lots of findings, I've just summarised some of them here. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 888.14 890.76 so it has obvious design implications there. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 880.97 888.14 The overall thing which I've I've got at the top there in italics is that users dislike the look and feel of current remote controls 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 890.76 895.59 Um, we found that seventy five percent of users find most remote controls ugly. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 896.95 903.32 Eighty percent would spend more money when a remote control would look fancy, we were quite surprised by that finding,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 925.88 927.83 So again there's power implications there. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 917.9 925.88 For example, you can see below there, seventy five percent of users zap a lot, so you've got your person sunk back in the sofa channel-hopping. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 903.32 912.2 but um that's quite a high proportion of our our, you know, international target group are prepared to spend more money for something that's a bit nicer looking. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 912.2 917.9 Um, current remote controls do not match well with the operating behaviour of the user overall. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 922.62 922.74 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 942.52 943.05 Um 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 927.92 934.54 Um, fifty percent of users only use ten percent of the buttons, so again a big design issue there. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 934.54 942.52 Um and possibly we can also cut back on cost if we don't have so many functions actually on the remote control. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 946.9 955.91 the biggest frustrations that people found with regard to personal preferences were um something that you you mentioned earlier, uh remote controls are often lost in the room,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 962.72 972.38 Uh thirty four percent of people take said they take too much time to learn to use and I think that ties in with the um the previous finding of people only using ten percent of the buttons 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 955.91 962.72 it's a slipping down the back of the sofa type of thing, uh fifty percent were were particularly frustrated by that. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 972.38 975.21 they just can't be bothered to learn about the other functions. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1005.48 1013.64 but which I'm thinking of now is um even if perhaps the lost control can give off a bleep every now and again til you find it or a flashing light 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 983.56 988.96 You know those small movements of the remote control can lead to kind of shoulder and elbow problems. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1004.31 1005.48 Something we didn't put to them 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 988.96 996.89 Um the vast majority of the thirty five and under age group would like um a liquid crystal display and speech recognition,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 996.89 1004.31 again that was to aid I think in uh when they've lost the actual remote control, some kind of speech recognition. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1020.5 1026.45 that kind of evens out thirty five to forty five and in the older age group it kind of reverses, they're not so bothered with this. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 976.07 983.56 Um, um slightly more than a quarter of people said it was bad for uh repetitive strain injury. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1018.2 1020.5 So thirty fives and unders who would like those two features,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1013.64 1014.96 possibly. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1014.96 1018.2 Um, that trend reverses in the older age groups. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1027.24 1031.67 I had marvellous tables and things that I could show you, but I think I'll just keep it simple,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1031.67 1036.14 if there's any more information I can email you extra details, is that okay? 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1027.78 1027.96 'Kay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1035.91 1036.31 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1034.6 1035.91 Okay. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1034.76 1036.51 That's fine. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1035.23 1035.74 Okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1038.69 1040.58 Right, um 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1039.01 1039.27 Huh. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1041.72 1044.85 we have new project requirements, um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1060.34 1061.48 Um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1051.1 1060.34 we're not going to be using teletext, um apparently the consumers consider it outdated with the internet now. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1054.19 1054.57 Okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1062.4 1068.56 our control is only going to be for T. V., it's not going to be a combined control,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1068.56 1078.44 which limits you know all of the different things that it limits the cost for us, but it also makes it easier to understand for the consumer. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1074.54 1074.9 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1076.83 1080.58 Mm-hmm, so can we not programme a video with this remote control? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1080.57 1091.8 It says for T. V. only, so looks like it's just yeah, I think maybe Sky things like that might be incorporated into it, but 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1084.48 1085.35 Just channel-hopping. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1094.19 1095.5 I don't know, what do you think? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1097.81 1102.13 But I mean, general T. V. controls do do video as well. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1095.5 1097.81 It just said, for T. V. only. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1097.68 1099.31 Would that imply video use? 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1099.29 1100.99 T yeah yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1103.65 1105.86 I d well I dunno 'cause uh the w if you've g 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1104.44 1108.88 I mean you bu well som you get com you get combined T. V. and videos don't you? 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1108.33 1109.05 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1109.05 1115.1 If yeah and if you got if you got a Sky box, they have one of those plus boxes 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1115.1 1122.32 you can record straight off the T. V. anyway so on to on to like the T. V. hard drive or so. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1108.66 1110.06 Mm-hmm, yes. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1117.94 1118.4 Mm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1122.45 1127 I think we assume that it's still got play and stop functions and programming. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1125.84 1126.51 Yes. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1126.27 1133.86 Anything about that on the market research or something like regarding whether people want a combined something like that? 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1127.26 1127.68 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1142.81 1148.18 I think th th those do tend to be the basic channel-hopping things and on and off for the video, fast-forwarding 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1154.53 1156.69 So I don't know if that's something we need to look at. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1134.29 1142.81 Um we didn't really look into that but remember we found that finding that most people only use about uh ten percent of the buttons,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1148.18 1154.53 so on and I think it's sort of general knowledge that people do find programming their videos a nightmare. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1140.58 1140.9 Mm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1140.9 1141.29 Ten perc 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1142.71 1143.06 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1146.25 1146.53 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1154.29 1154.66 Okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1154.47 1155.08 Hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1155.83 1166.33 Ju um just as an idea on the uh speech recognition thing that pr it'd probably be quite expensive to incorporate an entire speech recognition thing and they're not that great anyway. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1159.75 1160.27 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1162.44 1162.7 Pens 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1179.28 1184.04 So you can see how the the yes no sort of varies across the age group there,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1184.04 1188.99 and a substantial number of don't knows in the older age group, I think that's just general fear of new technology. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1165.82 1172.4 In fact I've just called up that table there, we asked those two questions, the table relates to both questions, so we didn't differentiate. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1172.4 1179.28 Would you prefer an L. C. D. screen, that's multi-function remote and would you pay more for speech recognition in a remote control? 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1167.64 1168.44 Alright, okay. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1176.59 1177.63 Alright, okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1182.35 1182.72 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1182.75 1183.07 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1188.44 1190.2 Yeah, bu 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1188.63 1200.8 Yeah but um on on that again I just thought 'cause you can get those key chains now and you whistle and then it'll let off a loud noise to let you know where it is so I thought that could be quite a 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1189.31 1189.66 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1196.31 1197.03 Oh yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1199.17 1200.03 Right. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1206.46 1217.83 so I think when we can take a cheaper option which still does the same kinda thing um because it is something I it needs to be the thing that you 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1200.74 1206.46 We do have a budget limitation that we can't control ourselves 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1210.11 1210.55 Mm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1228.86 1233.85 you go and press the button on top of the T. V. and it beeps and you're like oh okay it's over there,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1223.67 1228.86 maybe on the T. V. you could put like a pack on the T. V. or something so you can't see the remote 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1218.65 1223.67 use to find it needs to be something that you don't lose, you were saying whistling 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1233.85 1237.11 something like that, but that's that sounds a lot cheaper to me. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1222.04 1222.95 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1222.95 1223.39 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1232.06 1232.55 Yes. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1232.15 1232.45 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1232.39 1232.88 Okay. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1233.66 1234.69 That's a super idea. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1234.92 1236.79 Hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1236.79 1237.15 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1237.49 1237.95 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1238 1247.66 Um the third thing was that we have to make sure the corporate image is very much incorporated into the handset. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1247.66 1252.53 Um so we want logo, we want um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1254.9 1258.56 fashionable, trendy, I mean what you were talking about with the marketing. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1259.31 1263.71 Um, people paying more for it to look good. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1264.92 1267.81 Um, we need to focus on that as well. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1277.82 1285.91 What is um attractive to a trendy New Yorker and what is attractive to a retired South African, I dunno, you get the idea. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1271.42 1277.82 it's gonna be different for a fifteen year old th for somebody who's sixty and also across the world if we're aiming at the international market. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1285.91 1287.72 It's it's gonna vary around the world. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1267.34 1271.42 Yes, further market research will be needed to kind of focus on what that is 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1291.54 1299.67 it's the user interface design that may and th the sort of you know fashionable aspect of it we might have to change for different markets round the world. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1287.72 1291.54 At the end of the day, th the engineering design is one thing 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1273.88 1274.46 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1283.54 1283.98 Mm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1294.11 1295.03 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1299.75 1300.24 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1300.21 1305.39 So are we talking of a single model or maybe five, six designs? 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1306.29 1306.56 Sure. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1306.3 1312.04 Well y yeah you could you could have a number of different designs I mean inside they'd be essentially exactly the same. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1308.81 1309 Alright. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1311.92 1312.16 Right. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1312.25 1312.61 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1313.27 1317.16 Just yeah, yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1313.49 1316.65 The features could be same and the body could look slightly different. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1313.86 1314.19 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1316.47 1316.75 Mm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1318.07 1318.64 So 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1320.38 1327.5 What about you were talking about the buttons, um the controls that are coming out now have kind of big,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1327.5 1334.69 rubber buttons, not tiny little one, big, rubber buttons, but what about, I mean, 'cause we got to make it original, 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1323.05 1323.26 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1335.28 1335.94 'Kay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1336.2 1337.36 what about 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1338.69 1342.01 um you know with the touch screen computers 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1340.69 1344.62 Yeah, yeah that's what I was just yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1343.34 1344.32 yeah? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1344.32 1353.94 Um so you it's like a little panel that you touch rather than a button which shouldn't wear out as much either, not sure about the 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1352.9 1356.25 No, well no 'cause you wouldn't have to you don't actually have to press them you just 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1358.4 1370.75 Um, think that might appeal I'm thinking kind of Japan, I'm thinking uh young, um office people, trendy kind of a thing. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1355.18 1358.4 You don't have to press it, you just have to put your thumb onto it. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1357.49 1357.84 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1367.66 1368.18 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1366.52 1367.66 Mm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1369.74 1370.17 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1370.01 1372.51 Yes it will appeal to sections of the market def 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1372.06 1375.31 Um, but quite, um,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1375.31 1385.64 easily labelled so that anyone can oh yeah that's obvious what that's for and it's not daunting to maybe the older generations, um 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1380.31 1380.86 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1383.37 1384.95 Mm-hmm, mm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1384.1 1384.96 Mm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1384.96 1389.17 But also er ergonomics as we're saying with the different designs 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1389.17 1406.03 ergonomics uh there's sort of physically different things 'cause um if you've ever seen the X. Box they had to make two different sized controllers because people in Japan wouldn't buy it because the controller was physically to big because um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1402.84 1403.57 Were too big. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1406.93 1423.76 they're c uh just generally Japanese people have smaller hands so they couldn't get round the controller which is uh so if you I don't know what 'cause you obviously you can have bigger buttons for some countries or something and smaller ones for others. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1410.76 1411.12 Mm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1424.36 1430.6 Yeah, uh maybe to as uh it it was indicated that uh uh risk uh of uh repeated use,
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1430.6 1434.27 the injuries, maybe a touch screen could be a better option for that. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1435.31 1435.73 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1433.94 1435.31 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1441.96 1446.33 you're desi uh dividing it according to the countries also, the market. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1446.33 1452.86 Maybe for U. S. and all you can have a slightly bigger remote control and maybe in Japan and all you need to have a small, yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1436.72 1441.96 So, a bigger b okay so y you're dividing designs based on not only segment age groups,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1445.71 1446.05 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1449.05 1449.47 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1452.19 1452.97 Hmm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1461.58 1465.4 or they can make it bigger or they can change the features slightly, um. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1452.56 1461.58 I think we have to design one product and then the company can take it wherever they want to uh in the sense that they can make it smaller,
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1454.52 1454.71 Huh. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1456 1456.55 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1461.7 1462.16 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1463.76 1464.14 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1464.74 1464.95 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1465.28 1469.51 Th the internal d engineering design has got to remain the same, yes, absolutely. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1467.96 1477.15 It's gonna be the same, so we need to focus on just one thing, not get bogged down in lots of different um possibilities, um. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1471.32 1471.69 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1471.32 1471.64 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1475.77 1476.17 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1477.56 1482.24 I'm concerned, when you read the the R. S. I. issue again, repetitive strain injury 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1489.82 1494.85 Um, R. S. I. tends to be caused by repetitive small movements. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1482.24 1485.81 I don't think just moving your finger around on a small screen is going to deal with that enough 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1485.81 1489.82 I think that is still a kind of a question mark issue how we deal with that. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1491.38 1492.01 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1496.07 1501.79 I'm j I really can't get my head round this one, this may have to be postponed to a future meeting but it's something we should think about. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1498.23 1498.64 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1501.92 1513.05 I yeah I was just thinking about how you could combat that 'cause without without doing something where you have to move your arm around to change the channel and it becomes yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1504.62 1505 Mm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1510.52 1513.22 I know, and it becomes ridiculous, yes I know. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1512.86 1519.74 Or a speech recognition, which is extremely expensive, I think that's the only way that you kind of avoid 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1514.24 1517.23 Yeah, speech recognition, but yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1514.44 1514.64 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1517.26 1517.82 Yes. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1519.63 1520.01 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1520.84 1521.77 that kind of issue. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1522.11 1528.75 Do we have to initially um, you know looking at the findings here, focus on 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1530.2 1534.26 a younger age group initially and then broaden out the market later. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1537.57 1538.03 Um. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1534.26 1537.57 Do we really have to go for everyone right away? 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1537.12 1537.34 Mm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1537.5 1539.4 We could focus on the biggest market. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1539.65 1540.2 Mm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1540.22 1541.51 Ge uh 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1540.4 1543.64 If say people between age group of twenty to thirty five are the biggest market? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1542.65 1547.87 And when we've been throwing up our ideas we're automatically talking about business people, young people, trendy people. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1547.52 1550.02 We are we're talking about um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1574.18 1579.83 but I don't think we're focusing on that, I think we are focusing on a sort of mid-range um, 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1554.96 1565.2 That they want um it to be fashionable, they want it to be trendy and you wouldn't automatically assume associate that with the older generations. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1565.2 1574.18 Now with the baby boomers, the older generations are actually larger, they have a greater population than us young people,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1552.03 1554.96 the type of company that we're working for as well. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1564.53 1564.93 Mm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1571.95 1572.37 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1572.74 1573.04 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1573.4 1573.94 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1578.56 1579.18 Mm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1581.24 1583.61 business kind of class type people. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1582.61 1583.4 Mm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1588.78 1593.35 we want to, you know, not waste money, not be profligate and uh 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1583.4 1588.78 I'm just thinking of budgetary issues too, for when it does get to the sort of broad scale marketing stage,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1592.2 1592.61 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1595.38 1597.72 you know focus on where the idea will be taken up 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1597.72 1602.76 first it's most likely to be taken up first of all where the main purchasing power is coming from for a product like this. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1609.42 1616.12 Um we've got the T. V., we've got the video, now there's um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1604.71 1609.42 Okay, so the remote control functions. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1612.5 1612.81 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1617.5 1623.92 I can't remember what it's called, the little code at the end of programme details, yes. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1622.4 1623.51 Video plus. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1625.8 1637.55 We could use that as an alternative to programming in times, things like that, is that I always found that really easy when I discovered it, um 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1631.98 1633.15 Yeah yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1635.41 1635.6 Mm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1636.65 1636.89 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1649.79 1654.02 you put the number in and it's just a number, it's not a date, it's not a time,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1638.84 1644.86 because you've got your general record anyway so if you there's a programme on you want to put record on,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1654.02 1658.77 it's not a channel, it's not when it finishes, it's not anything like that, it's just a number. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1644.86 1649.79 that's fine, but if you do want to tape something in two days time and you're not sure if you're going to,
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1647.81 1649.11 Just whack in the number. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1658.94 1662.37 And you wouldn't you wouldn't need uh a whole host of extra buttons for that,
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1662.37 1665.55 you just need one 'cause you've already got all the numbers there anyway, yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1656.87 1658.94 And you w yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1662.48 1662.86 No. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1664.23 1666.41 You've already got the numbers for typing in anyway. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1665.69 1670.39 Right, I've not come across that function but it sounds wonderful. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1675.75 1691.04 six digit number afterwards and that's the number you put in and it's recorded that it's going to be on on Tuesdays at ten o'clock on the seventeenth so you don't have to worry about dates and you don't have to worry about times 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1691.04 1694.55 um and it has been around for quite a long time. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1669.4 1675.75 It is after um if you look in the newspaper, T. V. guide or any T. V. guide there's a five 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1671.85 1672.8 It's not 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1675.91 1676.4 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1679.6 1680.27 Ah, hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1690.16 1690.56 Right. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1693.47 1699.12 It's been been around for a long time it's just it's not very well advertised as to how to use it and things. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1697.12 1702.88 No it's not um but I think if awareness was kind of brought to the forefront about that 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1698.1 1698.61 Superb. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1700.76 1701.18 Mm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1702.08 1703.3 Mm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1703.3 1714.57 Though if y if you've got something like Sky anyway you can just click on it you can just press the button on the programme once and it'll record that programme when it's on and you press it on it twice and it'll record the whole series. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1702.49 1703.17 Yes. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1711.46 1711.79 Mm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1711.5 1712.21 Right. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1714.61 1716.36 Excellent, mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1716.08 1718.63 So that yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1718.63 1722.03 But just to have that function would be would be really good. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1717.78 1718.01 Mm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1720.74 1721.28 Right. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1722.21 1722.99 Okay so 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1723.2 1728.08 Can I just run this past you while it occurs to me, I don't mean to quickly jump from one subject to another,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1728.08 1734.73 but just discussing the different age groups and targeting the different age groups it occurs to me, to produce our own mobile phones,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1759.85 1765.11 if they know they can just pop into one of our high street outlets, th you know, which button is it I press for this? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1747.4 1750.78 they'll phone the company, you can use their telephones. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1734.73 1743.07 that that's kind of what led us on to comparing T. V. remote controls with with their design features, um, chain companies like Carphone Warehouse 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1743.07 1747.4 you can pop in anytime with a phone that you bought for them w if you've got any problems with it and they'll fix it,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1765.11 1769.14 Th as free as a free aspect of our service, would that not make it more attractive to them? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1750.78 1759.85 Is it worthwhile with with our retail outlets having a a similar um kind of service so that if older users were deterred from buying this,
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1747.48 1747.84 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1748.56 1748.98 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1770.63 1794.51 But the only problem is that with a mobile phone you signed for a contract so they um the companies who uh who you deal with have actually they've they've got an obligation to to help you out and also I mean it's it's fair enough to have some sort of help service but I I'm not sure how much the cost would be of having 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1769.22 1770.63 Mm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1784.08 1784.38 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1782.86 1784.08 Mm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1793.81 1794.4 Right. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1794.43 1800.41 The functionality of it in the sense that you're sitting there, you're pressing this button and your T. V. 's not doing it. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1800.71 1801.17 Alright. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1801.25 1805.92 Taking your T. V. and your control and saying look this is what I'm doing, it's not working, what should I do? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1802.51 1803.54 Yes 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1808.28 1813.23 but I mean for if there were any more or are we absolutely definite it's only gonna be for T. V. and video,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1813.23 1816.22 we're not gonna put any okay, just a thought. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1804.7 1808.28 If it was something as simple as you couldn't change the channel 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1813.45 1814.12 Yeah, I mean 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1815.42 1816.12 Um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1813.66 1815.42 I think so. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1816.39 1820.14 I mean instru instruction books I feel c I reckon can cover that. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1818.27 1819.72 Instruction manuals. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1819.72 1823.07 But I mean they're there's customer service 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1831.25 1836.34 there's no extra, t the person has to walk to a shop on the high street, um. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1823.07 1831.25 there will be a customer service number thing that you can phone up and speak to and that way there's no call out charge,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1819.52 1820.01 Okay. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1823.19 1823.96 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1825.4 1826.49 Department, yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1825.64 1826.08 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1828.43 1829 Sure. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1832.9 1833.35 Mm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1835.6 1840.36 I think it will be too much of an effort for a person to for a phone maybe he might walk down the street 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1833.96 1835.6 Right. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1840.36 1843.27 but for a remote he will just refer to the manual and all that. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1834.89 1835.16 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1839.56 1840.04 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1841.9 1845.5 Not for such simple functions because we're focusing on that, yes okay. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1842.29 1845.1 And they're yeah, they should be f yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1844.69 1854.3 But we should focus on making the manual as user-friendly as possible because a lot of them are just tiny little writing and lots and lots of pages. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1861.23 1863.46 Um, what other functions? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1854.3 1858.16 It does, you just put it in the drawer until something goes wrong and then you try and search through it 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1844.07 1844.69 Mm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1863.46 1869.57 We need I'm not sure if we need a design um decision now,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1858.16 1861.23 so that should be something we think about. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1877.14 1879.22 Mobile phone batteries, what kinda battery is that? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1869.57 1877.14 but we should think about c 'cause you've got the dilemma between oh batteries, that's what I was thinking about. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1847.51 1847.87 Simple. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1848.6 1849.14 Mm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1848.94 1849.2 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1850.92 1851.67 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1853.34 1855.86 Puts people off reading them so they just do the obvious, yes. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1854.03 1854.87 It's the uh yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1858.4 1860.28 Sure, okay. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1860.91 1861.14 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1885.61 1889.87 but they come with a charger, I mean you could you could bundle a charger in with it but 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1879.56 1885.61 Um they're they're specially made for the for the mobile phones,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1897.72 1901.69 you sit it in its charger when you're not using it or t at night or something 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1901.69 1906.74 but it doesn't really matter 'cause it never really runs out 'cause it lasts a long time once it is charged. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1888.54 1897.72 Well they la they they last quite a long time, and if you had uh when you th the thing that you get with mobile house phones 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1906.74 1910.03 Um, something like that should reduce the size of it. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1891.37 1891.86 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1897.23 1897.87 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1900.46 1900.83 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1900.73 1901.39 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1904.96 1905.32 Yeah. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1909.09 1917.34 Yeah and if yeah if you if you had if you had one of those uh just coming back to your other point about pressing the button and setting off the bleeper in the room that could uh 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1918.2 1921.07 Yeah it could be on that yeah, okay. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1919.28 1920.56 Yeah on that as well so. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1922.51 1922.83 S 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1922.53 1926.16 So are we talking of a concept of a rechargeable something on the remote? 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1925.52 1929.7 Yeah some sort of docking station or yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1926.1 1926.66 Yes. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1927.73 1929.46 Rechargeable with a docking station. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1927.74 1928.16 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1930.74 1932.61 So the rechargeable which would be your 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1933.38 1939.63 Yeah yeah th yeah that that'd be fine, and also that would mean they wouldn't have to go out buying batteries all the time. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1934.02 1934.38 field. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1936.13 1936.67 Okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1942.91 1947.7 Um, th the shape you got trendy. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1939.52 1942.91 Yes, which it is cheaper in the long run as well. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1954.98 1962.49 because then you have got the repetitive strain injury no matter how many how much you try and make it simple, um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1947.7 1954.98 I don't wanna big box with lots of things, you don't want a tiny sort of little thing either,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1939.81 1940.56 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1939.86 1940.14 Right. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1941.38 1941.75 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1953.34 1953.66 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1954.73 1955 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1959.26 1959.62 Mm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1962.61 1966.62 And we don't w I mean so many remote controls look absolutely identical, these long 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1966.62 1970.58 brown things with the same coloured buttons all crammed in on the s the surface. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1970.58 1977.64 We definitely an ob an obvious thing, a very simple thing is to get away from these brown rectangles, we don't want that. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1966.09 1966.76 They do. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1966.24 1966.56 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1977.18 1978.75 Okay so we've got a flip-screen. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1977.87 1977.99 Okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 1980.08 1980.88 Um 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1988.46 1992.79 Basically we have a flat one it it looks like a box, like a chocolate. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1999.46 2002.18 and you don't have to you don't bend your thumb too much,
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1982.82 1988.46 What I was thinking of a design which Nokia h uh came up with almost six or seven years back. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2002.18 2005.88 so it's like uh you can say a banana shape kind of thing, curled up like a boat. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 1992.79 1999.46 That's very strenuous because your thumb is slightly up, so they came up with something like this, curled up, so here 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 1991.51 1992.52 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 1995.5 1995.84 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2003.79 2005.52 Slightly curved, curved. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 2005.14 2005.82 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2005.98 2006.53 Okay. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2007.44 2011.69 G uh so what happens is you don't have to press your thumb too down like. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2012.49 2019.01 So it's already curled up so your thumb doesn't y yeah so we can have a s like you know moulded according to your 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2013.17 2013.65 Mm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2013.81 2015.63 'Cause it's kind of moulded to your hand anyway. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2015.87 2016.37 Mm. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 2019.84 2020.13 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2019.97 2023.59 the way you h hold of it's kind of semi-circular in the bottom, something like that. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2024.01 2024.51 Okay. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2024.82 2027.46 I wouldn't say exactly semi-circular but yeah smooth. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2026.4 2030.26 Can you look into the company logo? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2040.79 2041.3 I mean 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2031.5 2040.79 Um, things that are associated with the company in view to trying to incorporate that into the design of the product. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2040.43 2041.23 Current. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2052.6 2058.75 or something, um something along those lines to be able to incorporate it quite 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2043.22 2052.6 for example, if it was a C. or something like that, you could have it in a vague C. shape that opens up kind of like a shell,
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2051.16 2052.42 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2052.42 2052.9 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2060.4 2066.44 um obviously into the design, while also making it quite different from anything else that's there. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2067.28 2068.56 We could look in at that but 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2067.8 2069.23 I mean look at the mobile. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 2069.52 2069.9 Mm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2069.81 2070.96 Mm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2070.96 2072.73 What we were talking is to make it more 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2079.89 2083.67 rather than you know, trying to make it like a sea shell or whatever you were ta telling like. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2074.1 2079.89 rather than like sea-shells, logo could become as you could put a logo in the corner of uh the model,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2083.41 2085.98 Well we need to think about how it's gonna look different. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2087.03 2090.17 I think that's that sounds a really attractive idea,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2114.41 2121.21 you can still I mean think of the designs you can get in plastic, we can do a nice conch shell or scallop shell exterior. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2103.38 2108.8 that's gonna take care of some of the repetitive strain injury trying p prevent a lot of that I would think. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2095.69 2098.33 Then it's nice t to h you can make it lightweight plastic 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2108.8 2114.41 I think it's a really nice idea and plus you can get you know even though we're using plastic,
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2098.33 2103.38 nice to hold in the palm of the hand and just because you're having to actually insert in between the two covers 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2090.17 2095.69 I've not come across anything like that before, if it kind of yeah and that opens out into your flip-top. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2090.25 2090.98 A sea shell? 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 2095.59 2096.08 Yeah. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2110.55 2111.71 Yeah we could look in at that. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2127.69 2131 You could have different kind of casings. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2121.65 2127.69 Or you could do um different, like you get with mobile phones, different fascias. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2131 2138.67 So you could have like psychedelic ones for younger people and sleek ones and 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 2127.44 2127.81 Mm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2127.8 2128.25 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2130.71 2131.09 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2133.19 2133.58 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2151.62 2155.53 It's easier to bit nice to handle. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2139.73 2151.62 it's not like a chocolate brown lozenge that's gonna go down the sofa and people might want to put it on their mantelpiece or whatever as a ki if it looks attractive enough as a kind of ornament they don't not gonna lose it so much either. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2138.3 2139.73 Less chance of it being lost too 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2142.98 2143.58 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2153.25 2153.73 Mm. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2156.28 2161.63 six des designs and then choose which are whichever appeals the most like, that could be the most common design. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2154.55 2156.28 Yeah maybe we could come at some say five,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2158.76 2159.23 Okay. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 2159.39 2159.79 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2159.41 2159.8 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2160.38 2160.83 Okay. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2161.98 2162.64 Okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2162.53 2162.91 Okay. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2162.83 2164.61 But we can like think of five, six designs. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2164.98 2167.76 Right, I think we have to round it up, um 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2167.98 2171.96 Can I just quickly um go over the new project requirements so that I haven't missed anything. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2171.96 2181.32 So it's no teletext, it's only for T. V. and by implication video, our corporate image should be incorporated in the remote control, um something about Videoplus. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2168.85 2169.25 Sure. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2175.08 2175.33 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2190.67 2196.18 making it simpler so instead of having lots of things you put in for date 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2182.36 2190.67 That was um in cutting down the number that was kinda separate that was cutting down the number of functions 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2188.73 2189.3 Right. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2190.19 2190.92 Right. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2194.12 2199.6 Right, so when they press for programming you it comes up on the L. C. D., a reminder about using Videoplus? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2199.6 2200.91 So that they have a look at the guide and 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2202.32 2206.65 Or was is this nothing to do with the project requirements, is this just that was an add-on feature? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2206.7 2214.44 It's kinda takes the place of having a button to press for the date and having the button to press for the channel, things like that. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2214.44 2215.89 Um it could be it c 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2208.79 2209.12 Uh-huh. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2211.55 2211.94 Right. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2217.38 2218.07 Right. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2213.46 2217.38 Right, so it's kind of doing away with the programming feature? 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2216.57 2226.02 It yes, it could be uh adv advertisement feature, um rather than design feature, you know, drawing attention to that. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 2216.73 2217.01 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2226.71 2235.57 And it also paid um lip service in the instruction manual, 'cause it's very simple so putting it down in words should be helpful. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2237.39 2241.92 Was there anything else there that we in the new new project requirements? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2235.19 2237.39 Mm, and the rechargeable batteries. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2237.11 2237.42 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2239.12 2240.48 Um 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2248.82 2249.81 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2249.64 2256.75 We've got the buttons but I think we'll work through that with the design of it, um. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2252.76 2253.06 Yeah. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2255.75 2257.09 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2259.35 2263.1 what preference so it may come round to market research at some point to see what people would like. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2257.09 2259.35 That's not at the moment a requirement, it's something we're looking at 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2260.09 2260.84 Yes. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2259.27 2260.09 Yes. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2261.98 2268.44 And we've talked about um there being an alarm or something, a beeping for being lost, um. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2265.42 2267.73 For detection, right. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 2265.44 2266.33 Yeah. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2270.05 2273.08 Learning how to use it should be as simple as possible. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2273.08 2280.85 But there aren't gonna be that func that many functions incorporated into it so it should be fine and the I the instruction manual,
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2280.85 2283.84 I don't know if we deal with that, um. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2285.94 2286.7 I think 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2292.66 2294.14 Yep, I think that's us. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2289.84 2292.66 Yep, and different from what's out there. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2290.3 2291.56 Yep, I think 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2292.21 2292.73 Okay. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2294.55 2297.31 What would you specifically like marketing to look at before the next meeting? 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2297.31 2300.04 Or shall I just sort of generally look at all the issues involved? 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2294.79 2295.02 True. 
ES2004b H02 MEE014 2295.26 2295.55 Okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2300.12 2303.75 I think you might get guidance, but um 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2305.5 2305.64 I th 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2307.17 2309.76 Instruction manuals, 'cause there tends to be a 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2308.52 2308.85 Okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2311.6 2318.51 demonised thing, u um, they're everyone's got like a big pile of them, but no one really uses them. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2318.57 2319.14 Okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2319.32 2319.73 Um. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2322.73 2324.23 Whoops, questionnaire four. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2323.04 2323.57 Oops. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2323.57 2324.11 We should f 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2325.55 2325.96 Okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2324.14 2325.55 Yes, right. 
ES2004b H03 FEE016 2325.3 2326.98 'Cause we're at lunchtime now I think. 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2325.59 2326.8 I think it's time for us to 
ES2004b H00 MEO015 2329.28 2329.67 get back to 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2330.87 2331.5 Right, okay. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2333.42 2337.39 I think you can email me, if there's any more questions. 
ES2004b H01 FEE013 2339.29 2341.96 Um and I'll be able to not answer them. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 0.02 2.02 I'll wait until you're all um hooked up. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 17.57 19.13 Oh good grief. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 22.85 23.19 'Kay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 29.76 30.24 Okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 50.13 50.55 Oh. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 54.47 54.75 Thanks. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 52.39 54.47 Put it on in that way. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 54.23 54.43 Oops. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 78.08 78.56 Okay. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 79.22 79.59 Mm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 80.08 83.87 Welcome back everybody, hope you've had fun. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 82.47 83.27 After lunch. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 85.13 85.36 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 85.44 93.52 Right um this is our conceptual design meeting, um I think we're slightly ahead of ourselves 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 89.18 89.94 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 94.77 99.69 from the last meeting, I th I I think yeah um. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 96.01 98.26 Yeah, yeah I was getting that impression as well. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 96.42 96.63 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 98.28 98.41 Mm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 101.04 111.6 This is where we talk about um properties, materials, user-interface and trend-watching. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 109.85 110.42 Etcetera. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 111.92 112.28 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 112.69 115.01 So I think we've touched on a few things 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 116.64 118.91 to do with that already, but we'll just go over it. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 120.4 121.07 Um 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 126.02 133.72 Um we had a couple of um changes in our plans in that we couldn't use teletext 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 133.72 142.8 it wasn't gonna be a control for everything um and that we had to incorporate the image of the company into it somehow. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 122.98 126.02 the minutes from the last time. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 142.8 143.36 Um 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 144.72 160.44 we have decided on a leaving out the voice recognition, we've decided on there being a flip design and um a different shape from what's normal. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 160.44 165.39 We were thinking a shell, but something along those lines, just a different shape from what's normal, um. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 168.97 172.1 You were going to look into the rechargeable batteries 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 172.32 172.65 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 188.62 191.93 Okay, so shall we start with the first presentation? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 191.93 192.84 Yes if you feel 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 173.31 179.39 and we were gonna think about the port and an alarm for getting it lost, things like that,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 179.39 188.62 um and our market was going to be young, business, kind of range. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 177.68 178.07 Yeah. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 188.1 188.36 'Kay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 193.33 194.51 We just connect up. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 192.1 193.33 Okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 191.24 192.1 Shall I? 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 191.78 192.17 Yep. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 201.1 201.44 Thank you. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 218.98 228 Okay um so we decided on our market and so this feedback from the marketing department is really about trend watching. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 217.91 218.98 There we go. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 228 228.53 Um 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 229.36 232.39 the methods we used to decide on uh 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 251.19 256.56 Um we decided on the most important aspect i uh required in a remote control device and we'll come to that later. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 236.78 249.33 were that we did our traditional uh our usual market research study uh with a hundred subjects and the the general feedback from them is that the most im uh w I'm sorry I'm slightly tongue-tied after lunch 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 256.56 258.49 So that was one of the first things we did. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 234.6 236.78 current trends and so on, market trends 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 258.49 263.7 Also with our company um being forerunners in uh putting fashion into technology 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 263.7 269.08 we also looked at a fashion update um using our consultants on fashion and design in Paris and Milan. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 249.33 251.19 sorry Project Manager. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 249.46 250.6 It's okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 281.44 285.99 rather than the the current functional look and feel of remote controls. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 285.99 289.55 They also also want a remote control to be technologically innovative, 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 270.29 281.44 Uh so the general findings from that was uh in the market trends the most important aspect for remote controls were people want a fancy look and feel 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 290.89 294.2 and of course, as we predicted, that it should be easy to use. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 299.74 306.39 is twice as important as the second, technologically innovative, which is in turn twice as important as being easy to use. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 294.2 299.74 Now I should point out that the first of those findings, fancy look and feel, is the most important,
ES2004c H03 FEE016 316.95 324.13 Okay, um, now the fashion update which relates to very personal preferences among our subject group 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 324.13 330.86 um we found from our um consultants in Paris and Milan who des attended all the design and fashion fairs there,
ES2004c H03 FEE016 335.05 339.12 So should we be thinking of using something like that in our remote control design too? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 307.83 312.18 So possibly that the feature that we put first is actually third is still important 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 312.18 316.95 but it's third in order of preference for the the subject group we looked at. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 330.86 335.05 that fruit and vegetables are going to be the theme for clothes, shoes and furniture. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 316.02 316.31 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 340.13 347.85 There also seems to be um a trend towards a spongy feel to materials, uh again in contrast to last year. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 354.32 356.54 Be interesting to see what our design people make of that. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 347.85 354.32 So a lot of interesting feedback there, both from our market research departments and from our people in Paris and Milan. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 356.94 357.17 'Kay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 359.65 360.19 Um 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 357.29 359.65 Okay thank you very much. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 360.73 360.82 Yep. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 361.49 363.91 let's start from the inside and work our way out. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 363.56 364.3 Fine. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 364.3 364.99 It's okay with me. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 364.29 365.82 Yeah, okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 369.01 369.44 'Kay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 365.43 367.42 Unless anyone has any questions about that? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 367.42 369.01 Not yet? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 367.55 369.49 I don't think so, not yet. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 371.04 373.09 Um, yes, thank you. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 380.97 383.52 That screwed in? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 381.15 381.79 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 388.56 389.72 I hate those little things 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 389.94 390.29 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 390.96 395.96 especially if you do them on too tight and you can't get the leverage on them to undo them. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 393.87 395.9 I know. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 403.02 404.72 'Kay, 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 410.79 411.24 Okay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 422.52 425.07 Okay, first uh the 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 410.83 411.88 Okay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 411.88 422.52 Um this is uh all about the design of the actual components and the availability of the components we have in stock at the moment. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 427.42 439.48 The the main idea of the whole thing is just so you sh you just press buttons and it should activate things on the T. V. and we discussed last meeting that it should be easy to find. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 426.23 427.42 Into the method. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 439.48 444.73 Um also in this study I've looked into the availability of some of the materials 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 444.73 450.55 'cause some of the things that we looked at last time aren't un unfortunately aren't available. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 451.06 451.4 'Kay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 452.66 455.96 Um, findings, I've got my nice little picture there. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 455.96 465.96 This is uh the chip called the T. A. double one eight three five which is what's used in pretty much every remote control 'cause it sends out standard signals 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 474.86 478.53 Um and then we we're loo looking into battery options. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 465.96 474.86 based on your input and um it's pretty much used for all all T. V. remotes at the moment. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 472.18 472.33 'Kay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 506.26 507.02 It might 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 493.7 502.19 dynamo charging, I thought that that might be a bit silly to be to be honest, people won't it's it's basically like wind-up radio. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 479.86 484.54 There's um actually no rechargeable option available 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 484.54 493.7 so we I saw the um the standard double A. and triple A. which we thought were a bit bit too bulky at the moment,
ES2004c H02 MEE014 502.19 506.26 So you wind up your remote control before you use it. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 497.45 498.86 Wa can you explain that? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 500.12 502.6 Like a right, okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 504.94 507.99 How what kind of how l long can you get out of that 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 507.99 512.23 I mean can you pick it up and then wind it for two minutes and then that's it for the night? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 512.23 512.97 Or 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 508.76 509.47 You 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 524.12 533.16 like the the solar charging, 'cause most people have the light on in the room anyway so they could get when when you got T. V. . 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 512.15 516.88 Yeah, yeah, oh yeah I presu you wouldn't have to wind it for very long 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 516.88 524.12 but I don't I don't think it's really sort of necessary when you th you think of the next two options,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 531.46 532.94 That doesn't count though does it? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 534.91 535.71 Artificial light? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 532.32 534.91 Does does light charge as as sunlight does? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 533.78 537.9 I thought it was U. V. like 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 535.19 535.53 No. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 537.42 539.1 Alright i 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 536.91 537.42 Is it? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 539.16 539.99 Has to be solar. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 539.61 540.86 Any, any 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 540.83 545.98 Regarding those sizes, which one you think will be light because we we have to take into consideration size also 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 540.57 540.83 Yep. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 545.98 552.16 so maybe a standard triple A. might take lesser space or and dynamo might take more space. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 551.03 557.25 Yeah it would the d yeah the dynamo would take more space 'cause you actually need a physical sort of handle to wind up. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 557.01 559.69 I'm pretty sure that solar is from the sun. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 559.77 560.85 Yeah, okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 560.34 560.67 Mm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 560.54 568.35 Uh, I don't think it counts electric lights no, but I mean not many you don't want to limit your market. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 568.35 573 I mean people who live in basement flats there's not that many people, but there are people. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 561.91 563.03 Artificial light, no. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 565.27 566.24 That's going to 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 571.16 575.32 I know, different parts of the world too, if we're if we're marketing internationally. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 571.57 571.97 Uh 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 571.73 572.04 But 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 575.14 580.39 Yeah and most people most people also watch T. V. in the in the night anyway. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 575.7 575.92 Right. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 579.55 580.19 Night. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 580.59 582.72 Mm, but then it would be charging through the day 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 582.72 588.72 I think the point is that it charges through the day and then you've got it charged for the evening. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 590.62 598.34 The the kinetic charging which is like you get it in r you get it in wrist watches and you d you don't even notice it. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 603.86 608.05 I don't think you'd ever need to actually physically start shaking it up to make it work. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 598.34 603.86 I mean the amount the amount of probably moving around you'd be doing all the time would would charge it up 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 587.25 590.62 But I I think I think the the next one's the best anyway. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 590.12 590.6 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 595.4 596.32 Yeah I've seen 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 608.54 613.53 And are these like uh what are the life of the kinetic battery, it like it runs for long time? 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 628.74 640.41 And that'll that would l would last for um well I do I d I'm not entirely sure how long it would last but I've never seen one run out. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 626.62 628.74 'cause they use them quite frequently in watches. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 613.51 626.62 Um yeah it's it charges into um some form of it's a smaller cell which it charges into and uh the si the size sort of a watch a watch battery 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 620.36 620.61 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 627.88 628.27 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 655.88 657.18 Is it really gonna be enough? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 647.29 650.14 you're doing things, it is moving a lot of the time. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 650.14 652.89 If you'd I mean you switch the T. V. on, then you put it on the side 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 640.02 647.29 But then if you think about a watch, it's on your wrist so it's on your whole bod it's on your body the whole time so you're walking around,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 652.89 655.88 then you pick it up to change it and then you put it on the side. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 640.27 640.66 We c 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 645.11 645.51 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 649.9 651.4 Yeah and 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 652.96 653.23 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 676.24 686.78 you're only using it for a v incredibly short amount of time just to send the signal and then you're finished with it and you put it no no I do I don't think the the draw on it would be 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 673.33 676.24 And th for the same the same reason 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 660.39 673.33 although it's only a tiny amount it's it's um it's always moving for the whole day and they don't run out over night when you leave them on the side. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 655.38 660.39 Yeah but then again I I think it is because if you think about it, the watch 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 672.45 672.94 Okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 681.63 683.23 Hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 684.37 685.04 Mm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 683.23 684.37 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 685.04 691.32 Could I just ask referring back to solar charging, is that compatible with um standard batteries? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 691.32 691.48 I mean 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 691.48 697.26 could people put standard batteries in but with a s you know they could leave it in the sunlight for solar charging or the two things not compatible? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 681.77 683.98 So it's not the draw on it isn't 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 684.92 685.39 Okay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 688.53 689.05 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 707.74 714.99 if you lie on a calculator they they're qui they're quite big and they all they all look i identical. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 695.82 707.74 Ye yeah I think I th uh g y you could have a dual um power thing but the the thing with the solar cells is you would need to put them on the case and they because 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 698.23 699.6 Like a dual kind of. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 710.58 711.07 Mm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 714.49 716.48 So that affects the exterior design. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 715.28 717.65 Solar would be slightly expensives. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 716.16 717.74 Expensive as well. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 717.74 723.11 What kind of price are we looking at for I presume the normal batteries are the cheapest? 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 717.25 719.15 They're they're expensive, they don't 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 720.58 722.05 It's twelve point f 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 722.99 731.32 Yeah the normal batteries would be the cheapest I'd presume then it would actually be the the solar charging ones, um but the 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 737.99 748.27 'cause if you drop stuff yeah if you if you have y the size you'd need to charge a remote wouldn't be that big but I mean if remotes always get thrown around and stuff 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 732.43 737.99 It's i I think they're not very resistant to dropping 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 748.27 748.5 so. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 738.35 738.94 Solar. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 740.29 741.61 Well they're not designed 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 749.9 751.89 Y I think yeah, practically. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 750.02 751.56 Practical-wise okay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 753.65 760.57 I mean calculators you don't really throw around a lot whereas remotes you do, they can t 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 759.16 763.08 You do get a bit of wear but don't calculators have a battery in them as well? 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 762.39 766.97 Yeah they do, they yeah they've got dual things, but they're the batteries are smaller I think. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 764.48 765.05 Mm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 764.85 765.29 Mm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 769.92 774.61 W w which one would last the longest, because we don't want customers to be like you know charging like a mobile phone every day. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 767.24 769.92 Another question is like sorry. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 767.35 767.99 Again it de 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 776.18 778.33 W m yeah so the 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 774.97 776.18 Mm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 775.96 779.34 A remote control, like, so we have to s look at the life also. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 777.13 777.27 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 779.62 784.79 Yeah the the s if you if you had something du uh using the standard 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 786 789.67 batteries and the solar charging, um 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 789.67 797.83 I don't think you'd I think the it would d well you know how long the standard double A. s would last in or triple A. s would last. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 796.5 801.6 It would just detract from the attractiveness of the of the whole feature, i it's not gonna add anything, okay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 799.32 801.95 Yeah I think i I think it would, yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 801.89 806.29 Okay, can we add in uh an attachment to closing feature? 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 806.95 807.27 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 809.78 814.33 'Cause if we're doing the kinetic thing and it's 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 807.99 809.78 Can we think about that? 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 811.75 812.25 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 812.31 818.53 Shouldn't we do some market research on that first before we add it in because I I personally right, okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 816.29 819.12 Well add it in to think about um 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 821.88 822.52 because, 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 825.09 845.53 If it is the kinetic thing and it is small and it is portable and it is a different shape and the kinetic is something people don't do kind of we're doing something original and different um but if you wore it if it's something you could just clip on your pocket then you would have that less 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 845.53 848.17 you you wouldn't lose it so much. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 823.7 825.09 where am I? 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 832.63 833.01 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 847.23 847.63 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 849.51 852.71 But then maybe that's looking at someone who's just sitting on their own rather than 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 849.84 850.14 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 854.12 856.59 the eternal battle for control of the controls. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 857.15 863.69 It's not something that's come up in any of our uh focus groups and market research, it's not a thing that people are looking for 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 861.8 862.37 No. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 864.04 864.52 Okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 864.84 866.45 when we threw it open to the field yeah. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 865.28 865.75 So 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 868.04 868.5 Okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 868.04 870.2 But it's something to put on the side to think about maybe. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 871.63 872.35 Okay, right. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 872.2 873.29 Okay, well I'll move on. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 873.37 873.7 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 895.5 917.68 it'll connect the circuit and each each switch is connected to two uh different legs on the chip and so sends a different message and that then uh gets translated by the chip into a code and then it's fired out of this L. E. D. in the sequence of l on and off bursts. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 888.99 895.5 which basically has these contacts that are really close together and then when you press down on the rubber button 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 874.85 888.99 Um, my second part of my findings uh the mo most current remotes use this silicone uh P. C. B. board which pr printed circuit board 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 919.88 928.07 Can we what kind of size, does it come in varying sizes or is it just one size and we would have to fit the design of 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 918.16 919.88 What kind of things do we have to consider there? 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 925.27 925.6 Well 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 927.14 930.13 well this the thi the thing about is um 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 931.57 943.54 they they can be as big or as small as you want them to be because you can you can print circuit board like that that it's it's simply spaced like that so you can have fit the n the size of the nine buttons in. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 952.11 962.16 if you if you wanted to but um the there is an option to do to do it like that, or you could have some sort of 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 943.54 946.03 If you if you see how thin the tracks are 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 946.03 952.11 you could you could s you could put them virtually right next to each other and have a much smaller switch on each one,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 945.64 946.04 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 952.22 952.62 Okay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 963.59 967.53 array of switches which I'll speak about in the next bit so that 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 966.52 966.91 Okay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 999.99 1003.04 if we decided to go for buttons that could light up. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 984.63 992.18 so you can see what all the buttons are, like on a mobile phone, they do it more often than on a than on a T. V. remote 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 992.18 999.99 but you could you could have lights behind the buttons and um after like five or ten seconds of not being used I'd have that turned off 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 969.08 976.66 And then to uh yeah, so to conserve battery life the remote should be in a standby mode no while not being used. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 976.66 984.63 Now what I was thinking about that was 'cause sometimes when y when you have these things, they've got little lights on behind the buttons,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 987.44 987.82 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 988.01 988.49 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1004.88 1005.47 Okay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1004.91 1014.17 Um, the case material, I've a been sent what the factory can actually give us 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1014.17 1023.27 the there's the plastic which I think we were gonna go for anyway as the main case case housing and 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1020.85 1021.35 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1024.59 1032.5 the the main problems with the well you could go for wood but I think it would be a bit impractical. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1043.24 1051.88 well you're saying that people like this uh spongy feel this year, so perhaps uh some something made of rubber,
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1032.5 1043.24 Titanium um very expensive just to process, which to make it is expensive, and rubber,
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1051.88 1056.5 but I was thinking more of the buttons, because the buttons which they've they've said 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1038.2 1038.58 Mm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1046.72 1047.07 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1057.85 1060.24 that they've they've put across 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1061.53 1069.91 are what is used in some stress ball manufacture and it's meant to be anti R. S. I. . 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1078.67 1084.82 Um the problem with the casing is that uh there's 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1069.91 1078.67 I'm no I'm not sure how that would work because surely your fingers would still be moving over the short distances but that's what they said. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1066.11 1066.43 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1069.33 1069.81 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1094.17 1098.18 If you go for titanium they can only do a standard box shape 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1098.18 1104.96 whereas if you come to plastic they can they can be a little more they can they can do sort of curved shapes. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1104.96 1109.2 But whether whether or not because we'd have it in two separate units 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1086.08 1094.17 quite um there's quite a few design restrictions that they've got on the shape of the case. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1123.63 1129.23 So is that feature available in like uh titanium, or it's like only specific to plastic or 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1117.63 1123.63 So in this case if you're looking at like a customer can change the colour like from green, parrot green to chilli red or something like that. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1111.24 1117.63 Second thing is yeah and second question is like, a mobile you can change the cover, you call it a skin or whatever. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1111.36 1112.42 for the flip phone. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1111.47 1112.76 Hinged, yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1116.01 1116.39 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1121.33 1121.56 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1123.21 1123.83 Yeah I th 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1126.8 1127.08 Uh. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1141.7 1151 because of the expense of how much titanium is is it's light and strong but I think it should be left for aircraft design rather than for 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1137.65 1141.7 it was just it would be so expensive to buy a new case for it 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1132.4 1137.65 the ju just it w well you could make it available in the titanium 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1128.23 1132.4 Yeah in in titanium I don't I don't think it would be available at all really 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1132.2 1132.29 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1141.18 1141.45 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1159.44 1165 I was just wondering if we make the basic mould out of plastic but have like a rubber cover that goes over,
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1154.44 1159.44 I've got a mobile phone myself which is titanium and it does mark very easily if you drop it. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1152.09 1154.44 It does mark quite easily too if you let it fall. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1165 1169.79 that would give the spongy feel, that also allows us to kind of have different fasciae for the phone. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1152.43 1153.11 for a remote. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1156.72 1158.51 Yeah, yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1163.88 1165.11 Rubber, yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1168.63 1170.08 And you can peel them off yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1176.21 1180.84 like those pens that you get with the grip, that you can you can pull that off. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1169.94 1176.21 So instead of the fascia that comes off being plastic, the fascia that comes off would be the rubber,
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1169.98 1170.21 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1174.31 1176.01 Like a rubber sleeve almost, yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1176.03 1176.74 Yeah. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1176.08 1177.18 Something like 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1178.32 1178.66 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1178.54 1178.94 Mm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1179.73 1180.68 That could be a good idea. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1178.63 1179.73 Alright. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1180.98 1181.26 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1181.26 1181.6 Hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1181.92 1183.95 It could it would be comfortable to hold on also. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1182.08 1182.52 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1183.71 1184.09 Mm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1184.63 1188.36 Very cheap way of changing the look of it and people can just buy a new one if they want to. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1184.81 1184.91 T 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1187.76 1188.24 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1188.72 1192.63 Well that's been really popular with mobile phones so I don't see why not. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1192.94 1193.2 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1191.82 1192.94 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1193.73 1204.82 Also the just just going back to the interface designs with the buttons, the I kno we were planning to do some sort of touch screen. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1204.82 1219.57 Now what I was saying before about instead of having you could have just a bare P. C. B. circuit board and I'm sure you could probably get it in different colours and so just by touching it with your finger it'd make the connection 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1195.06 1195.48 'Kay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1202.8 1203.22 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1228.35 1238.31 but I thought that an L. C. D. type of screen 'cause one they're incredibly thin um and don't take up much space 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1224.65 1228.35 Um the second option th they offer rubber buttons 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1238.31 1249.58 two they you can have them in a sort of array and you can arrange the buttons on the screen in a sort of set thing and you could have them like a touch 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1220.71 1224.65 over if you had them close enough, that would be one option. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1250.6 1253.1 Sorry I didn't get the last part, you're talking of 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1250.92 1251.55 display. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1254.32 1255.58 Uh what what 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1255.66 1259.97 Just what you said I I didn't get the uh meaning of it completely, you're saying like 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1259.1 1270.15 Oh on the on the L. C. D. screen you could becau you could fit it the problem with it basically is that it's flat and so you can't do lots of curve curved things with it,
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1270.15 1278.27 but um you can you wouldn't have with the L. C. D. you'd have the wires coming off, you wouldn't have that with the 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1261.19 1261.48 Uh-huh. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1268.11 1268.44 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1268.39 1268.77 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1279.4 1282.1 with the L. C. D., you'd only have that with the printed circuit board. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1281.44 1281.71 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1283.2 1283.92 With 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1285.04 1286.59 W also with the 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1288.76 1294.31 if we for example had a shell, once we open that yeah, so it'd be f yeah, yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1285.14 1288.76 I don't s sorry to interrupt, I don't see why the curved thing is a problem,
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1290.8 1291.38 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1291.4 1292.93 Oh it would be flat inside. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1305.71 1311.88 so you wouldn't be pressing down on 'em, w or we could have rubber buttons which are made of this material which is anti-R. S. I. . 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1292.64 1299.06 You could have a flat screen inside, yeah, but I'm just wondering whether we want an L. C. D. screen inside. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1299.06 1305.71 It wouldn't be like full colour, it would just be black and white, but there'd be touch touch buttons,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1294.34 1294.69 Mm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1295.95 1297.08 Have I misunderstood you? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1302.15 1302.5 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1305.92 1306.16 'Kay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1311.86 1312.08 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1314.49 1322.37 if the whole thing is gonna be this rubber thing it would be good to open it up and see something quite fancy looking inside. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1312.35 1314.49 I think it would be good to have a contrast between 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1322.37 1327.64 Now how would you distinguish, if you had it bare, how would you distinguish where you had to press, I mean 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1316.18 1316.78 Is rubber. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1321.04 1321.35 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1321.41 1321.89 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1328.39 1331.39 Yeah I hadn't I hadn't really thought of that to be honest. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1329.08 1329.65 Uh 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1345.16 1345.4 Mm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1329.81 1334.49 I just had another idea, I don't know if it helps with that, but just to do with the R. S. I. . 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1339.15 1345.16 or we have inside like a small pointer thing when people want to. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1334.49 1339.15 Is it possible, just as an option, when we open it up, people can use their fingers to press the button 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1341.3 1341.92 Yeah you could,
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1341.92 1350.48 you could have some sort of stylus that you could pull out but I I think they could get a bit easily lost, 'cause I had 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1343.28 1344.63 Like one of the palm pop thing. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1349.52 1350.41 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1350.41 1352.32 They're easy to replace as well, cheap. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1353.28 1364.85 if he would a person who switches channels very often or does use a particular function very often will find it very irritating to use a and he might spoil the touch-pad very fast compared to a button like 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1364.85 1367.41 if you keep punching with an pointer or whatever. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1349.89 1353.28 Absolutely, f for somebody who very often 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1350.45 1352.33 It would have to be attached. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1353.08 1353.52 Hmm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1357.41 1357.77 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1360.13 1360.71 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1360.96 1361.14 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1364.51 1364.97 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1364.93 1365.17 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1367.68 1368.55 Yeah okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1368.02 1371.75 Yeah just a thought they wouldn't actually need one and they could use anything they've got, couldn't they? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1371.75 1373.98 A pencil or a pen, so they wouldn't really need a 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1374.37 1379.23 Okay, we'll talk about that so if you finish your and we'll come back to that. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1379.23 1381.31 That's you, right okay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1377.38 1380.96 Yeah that's yeah that that's the end of m my 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1391.47 1393.04 so we can divide the circuit like you know. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1380.42 1385.03 And just one small question before like you are, regarding the circuit, since we are hav having a flip-top 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1385.03 1391.47 we can customise the two circuits for different type of buttons like we are keeping the standard buttons on the top and the more complex buttons under this thing 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1385.07 1385.28 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1389.91 1390.69 Uh yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1393.63 1395.73 Yeah yeah that that would be fairly simple 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1407.4 1411.12 'cause in the in the actual flip bit you'd have some linking. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1395.73 1407.4 I mean you'd you'd actually have two separate you'd have two separate circuit boards but they'd be joined by wires or like some cabling between them 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1395.98 1396.18 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1398.69 1398.97 Okay. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1403.89 1404.16 Okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1406.33 1406.7 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1413.28 1419.02 I'll just raise another point while it occurs to me, it kind of applies to both our designers here, so I'm not sure how it would fit in. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1419.02 1420.08 If we flip open 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1420.08 1427.21 now you know how you've got some mirrors in nightclubs that are mirrors when you turn to them and you turn away and it gives like an advertising display 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1427.21 1427.95 you seen those? 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1417.86 1418.4 Mm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1427.92 1428.45 No. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1431.38 1441.02 Is it possible that when we open our flip-top shell it's a little compact mirror and when you press a button it then goes onto the phone display th uh the remote control display thing. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1428.93 1431.38 And they kind of respond to the turn of your body. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1441.55 1444.95 We're marketing to guys as much as we are to women. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1441.72 1442.17 Um. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1445.33 1446.38 They don't look at themselves? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1447.73 1448.35 Just a thought. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1449.89 1457.72 you were sitting watching T. V. are you gonna want to sort of open it and say oh shit I should go and have a shower and do my hair before I put the T. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1448.66 1449.89 Well it's a remote control 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1451.08 1451.58 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1462.02 1466.11 trying to think of other features we can build in that wouldn't cost too much but maybe we'll leave that one on the side. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1454.24 1460.99 it's with us using the ideas for a mobile ph it's with us using the ideas for mobile phones I kinda got sidetracked onto that I think 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1460.99 1462.02 okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1453.41 1454.24 I know what you mean 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1459.52 1461.52 Yeah, no, no. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1464.63 1465.14 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1466.12 1466.63 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1467.27 1467.81 'Kay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1467.49 1467.92 Okay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1469.38 1470.93 I mean you can you could do it 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1470.93 1479.21 you could have a 'cause if you if you just put the full charge through an L. C. D. display it'll completely blank it out,
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1479.21 1482.33 but I don't know if you could get any mirror effect on it, I'm not sure about 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1478.47 1478.81 Mm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1481.17 1485.3 Oh I think forget about the mirror that was just a very quick passing thought yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1482.83 1485.97 Okay, okay. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1485.92 1487.38 Okay, uh 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1492.37 1496.77 First thing is uh basically on design we just took the input from the previous meeting,
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1496.77 1502.9 especially from the marketing and industrial design, to check on the customer needs and feasibility. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1489.98 1492.37 would like to share something which I did here. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1515.7 1521.16 So you generally see rectangular shape, very monotonous kind of designs here. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1502.9 1508.02 Second is we checked into competitors, the picture here shows one of the standard models offered by competitors here. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1508.02 1515.7 So y you generally see there's not much of variety and like marketing team said uh, people need trendy, they are bored of black and white. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1510.4 1510.77 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1515.72 1516.07 Yeah. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1527.29 1529.05 No particular remote is standard. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1522.92 1527.29 And uh second thing is there's too much of confusion here. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1527.27 1527.81 Mm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1531.18 1532.86 Like, some some people have a 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1535.91 1537.41 This is on a I I 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1534.41 1535.91 Here you see this? 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1542.92 1547.98 rest other buttons, they are in a very disorganized and they are not consistent th with other models and all. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1538.58 1542.92 I found th that uh only common feature is the ch uh channel control and uh volume control,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1548.32 1548.7 Okay. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1562.12 1565.05 have icons or touch pad or whatever, which is 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1549.28 1552.14 Okay, and second as already discussed with William 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1552.14 1562.12 we are going to have m maybe a G. G. U. I. interface in the f in the middle of the flip-top and g graphic user interface basically which is what we d do in computer,
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1555.92 1556.22 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1557.6 1558.81 Sorry what does that stand for? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1558.24 1559.38 Which means 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1560.36 1560.52 Okay. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1562.31 1562.73 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1564.18 1569.12 If you if yeah if you have like buttons that appear on the screen in this L. C. D. screen. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1568.91 1575.38 Like you have on a l uh icons or something y you have is a good example of G. U. I. graphic user interface. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1574.84 1575.7 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1575.51 1575.93 Okay. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1576.34 1579.21 So basically not point or click 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1592.81 1597.76 So he need not use a pointer to keep changing the channel if a person is frequent surfer. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1584.31 1592.81 And on the top m repetitive buttons which are like volume or channel changing and all could be on the pointing device, that means the use of button. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1580.12 1584.31 Press any particular device, he just has to click on that particular icon to simplify. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1582.98 1583.29 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1598.2 1598.6 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1603.12 1607.8 on the top we have this button, rubber buttons, to keep frequently changing the channels. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1598.78 1603.12 So we are having a combination of boards, so f on the s simpler board,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1609.46 1614.28 Can we swap that round so th that the ones that we use all the time are on the bottom part? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1615.64 1617.43 'Cause if you're thinking about holding it 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1618.77 1622.83 you would be using your thumbs to press, just like a mobile phone. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1622.52 1623.39 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1622.57 1624.92 No you'd hold it you don't if you flip it open then you'd be 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1628.68 1632.43 You us if we just use the shell as an example again, you open that,
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1627.03 1627.47 Wouldn't you? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1627.47 1628.68 Isn't that the idea? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1632.43 1636.6 you've got your L. C. D. display there and you've got the buttons there so you're holding it in the palm of your hand, yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1630.77 1631.32 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1635.08 1638.05 Yeah, yeah but you can do it with your thumb li 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1635.33 1644.42 That's what I was just saying, and then have the and then have the L. C. D. at the top and then be able to touch that for the other controls,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1644.42 1652.03 so have the um the volume and the programme, things like that, on the lower side. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1652.03 1652.41 Okay. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1636.8 1637.38 But 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1640.61 1640.95 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1640.82 1641.12 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1642.78 1643.18 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1643.44 1644.99 Okay and you mean to the 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1650.76 1651.65 Oh f perfect. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1649.49 1650.76 And the lower distance. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1651.84 1651.93 Hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1655.62 1657.74 So the findings are too many cluttered buttons. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1666.13 1669.12 Okay we had a latest finding of voice recognition, there was a mail 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1663.84 1666.13 All are confusing and in inconsistent. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1658.63 1663.84 Repetition of certain but buttons which I already explained, example the volume and channel control buttons. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1704.46 1706.64 And technologically innovative also. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1675.57 1682.73 We have to check into the for financial f feasibility whether we can incorporate it this at a low cost 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1682.73 1691.25 but for like we had g um s response from the customers that they would like to have the feature of finding it. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1695.27 1704.46 Some kind of thing or it gives a b bleep sound or some kind of sound and if this can be incorporated this would be more uh you can say trendy also? 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1691.25 1695.27 So it could be like, where is the remote, and the remote answers I am here. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1670.49 1675.57 which mentions that our division has developed a new speech recognition s feature. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1690.13 1690.48 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1694.76 1695.18 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1699.41 1699.84 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1708.38 1708.78 Yeah. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1708.98 1712.43 So we we can check into the financial feasibility of incorporating this. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1716.23 1721.53 My personal preferences would be like, as already uh marketing department 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1721.53 1725.55 they want something to do with fruit so I wouldn't say the design should be like a fruit,
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1725.55 1731.79 but yeah we can take inspiration from fruit colours, like the vibrant colours, uh red chilli uh 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1729.21 1729.61 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1730.76 1731.03 Yeah. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1733.01 1742.36 tomato red or whatever and second thing is cer certain standard buttons we should have, like for example, i if you see the previous slide uh 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1743.54 1745.37 Well, yeah we 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1746.09 1751.51 I think most of the users would now be well acquainted with this cer central pattern, here 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1751.51 1757.2 so we we we would not change h that particular pattern because i this is the most consistent thing in all remote controls. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1751.17 1751.55 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1757.45 1760.07 I can't see that, is that play and stop and things? 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1764.29 1771.06 So keep that m that standardised because that's the most common feature across all models, if you look at all the models, it's here. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1760.16 1764.29 This is central one, the one you yeah volume and channel. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1761.45 1763.43 Or is that volume and channel? 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1773.65 1774.17 This 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1776.98 1777.57 and 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1780.82 1781.57 voice recognition. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1782.75 1783.25 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1790.14 1790.69 Um 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1787.76 1788.65 Right. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1788.65 1790.14 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1792.03 1798.43 I'm not sure how long we've got left, but we need to make a decision about um 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1801.07 1802 the things we've discussed. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1802.7 1806.5 So, we agree on 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1807.81 1808.99 Do we agree on the battery? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1809.8 1810.4 Kinetic? 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1810.14 1810.81 The kinetic. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1813.06 1818.31 Um, that means that there's no function for li the port,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1824.25 1826.87 It's a bi i it's like a g it's a gadget, it's a 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1811.45 1813.06 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1818.31 1824.25 you know that it sits in, then pressing the button then having so we could incorporate voice recognition for the finding it. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1811.55 1812.07 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1819.91 1820.47 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1822.95 1824.73 Yeah I think I mean if 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1841.48 1846.62 So do you reckon that's a good idea that, where's the remote, I'm here thing? 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1835.73 1841.48 then it won't be cheap to re-manufacture them, uh or it will be cheap sorry to re-manufacture them. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1846.62 1847.93 I think that would be quite fun. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1827.07 1835.73 Yeah it is it is qui it's quite a cool feature to have and also if they've got it if they've got these parts already in stock,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1828.07 1828.92 selling point. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1835.22 1835.49 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1847.55 1847.95 Mm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1848 1849.21 I think the only 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1858.33 1865.2 but I think pretty much we've used cheap relatively cheap and simple things. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1865.2 1866.55 The L. C. D. 's not cheap. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1850.31 1858.33 I think the only pitfall that we would have would be how much it's going to cost if that means we have to cut down somewhere else 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1855.2 1855.57 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1863.14 1863.51 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1864.19 1864.61 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1865 1874.32 Yeah to s th well it's it's not as expensive as it would be if it was full colour 'cause if we've just got a black and white one 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1874.32 1876.68 I mean they use them in calculators so. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1866.87 1867.12 Hmm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1876.52 1877.65 Yeah, okay. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1877.46 1879.25 Maybe we could start with the black and white. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1880.02 1880.43 Yeah. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1880.73 1883.07 That that way we could upgrade later. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1880.79 1881.97 And you could yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1883.7 1889.58 Yeah, we talked about kinetic charging, we've deci seem to have decided on that, did we decide on double A. or triple A. batteries? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1884.08 1884.57 Okay. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1885.03 1885.11 Mm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1890.24 1890.56 Mm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1890.54 1892.28 Well you cou um. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1891.65 1893.12 Do you want like a back-up? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1893.87 1894.25 No 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1894.25 1900.16 one of the decisions we had to make was whether we had double A. or triple A. batteries 'cause they've still got to be charged this way haven't they? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1900.16 1900.91 I oh I see. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1899.26 1905.02 K no the kinetic ones come come with um a sort of w watch a battery that goes in a watch. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1905.07 1906.07 Right, okay, got you. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1906.15 1908.57 So it's a lot smaller, so it would 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1908.4 1910.62 Got you on that okay, didn't realise. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1912.74 1915.88 Um, okay so we've got battery. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1915.88 1920.62 The inside components is pretty standardised across the board isn't it? 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1921.17 1921.78 Yeah. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1921.81 1922.08 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1921.89 1925.92 So there's not a really a decision to be made there, um. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1928.08 1931.28 The buttons what did you give us as our 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1934.74 1937.16 The bare-board L. C. D. or 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1941.34 1947.7 on the on the on on the top one we're gonna yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1936.36 1941.34 Yeah the well I think were we're going for the L. C. D. on that one, on the buttons 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1944.71 1949.48 On the top one okay you've got the touch okay and then 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1950.04 1955.15 On the bottom we were gonna have the rubber, the rubber ones, the anti-R. S. I. ones. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1956.25 1958.47 Okay, okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1959.77 1961.7 Sorry could you repeat that last part? 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1961.78 1970.2 Um, okay on we've got the flip the flip-screen, the top one is gonna be the L. C. D. and the bottom one is gonna be the rubberised buttons. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1963.65 1964.64 L. C. D. screen. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1965.56 1965.89 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1969.83 1970.4 Okay. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1971.44 1972.6 And for the sorry. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1973.36 1974.15 No, it's fine. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1977.09 1982.66 For the body design I think plastic, uh w yeah we could use the body,
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1982.66 1987.82 for the inside and uh rubber as a padding or for the grip, something like to add to the design. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1980.19 1981.62 Plastic, okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1981.56 1982.56 For the inside. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 1983.35 1983.79 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1987.8 1988.09 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1988.2 1993.77 Mm-hmm, so we decided on a rubber casing for the plastic shell, a variety of designs, okay. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 1991.72 1992.64 Plast right. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 1992 1993.92 Oh I think so, I think so. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2001.8 2008.31 we're not gonna try and make it actually a vegetable or fruit design or anything else, like a shell that we discussed, just go for the colours. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 1995.97 2001.8 and it is just uh although it's rubberised and spongy, apart from that we're just going to go for sort of vegetable and fruit colours,
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2006.05 2006.49 Mm no. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2020.08 2027.7 we could make it um psychedelic, you know, we could make it black and white zebra stripes,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2027.7 2033.84 but that's not really what we're focusing on, what we're focusing on is the m you know yes. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2007.04 2018.58 No I think I we don't wanna be tacky if we've got a kind of different shape anyway um the fact the m the material that we would be using would be cheap 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2033.84 2036.62 So we could just pick anything. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2018.58 2020.08 so we could make it red,
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2008.16 2008.82 It's 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2010.38 2010.94 Okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2025.11 2025.45 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2031.8 2032.28 The feel. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2034.76 2035.14 'Kay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2044.29 2049.17 made of plastic, fits into the palm of the hand, rubberised cover that's spongy. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2037.64 2044.29 Is that going to be this image I've got in my head of something kind of shaped like that, maybe about that size,
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2049.17 2056.35 Is that really going to fit fancy look and feel which was the major thing that people wanted, market research, is that fancy? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2036.89 2037.64 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2064.23 2071.05 sort of beige and black um so you either want something that goes with that 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2072.94 2083.6 or you want something that contrasts as you know like you get clocks now that are more of a talking point than an actual clock because they're so interesting and 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2055.21 2064.23 It's just different it's just different from everything else and I mean, I'm trying to imagine um clean looking houses 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2071.05 2072.94 which is what's on the market anyway 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2055.44 2057.27 Uh I it's different. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2063.56 2063.96 Mm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2066.71 2067.11 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2071.57 2072.31 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2072.31 2072.65 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2075.42 2075.84 Mm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2078.48 2078.83 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2080.53 2081.13 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2082.3 2086.84 I'm just kind of pushing at that to see if you came out with anything else, but I mean I totally agree. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2090.8 2094.63 This would definitely be different enough, I just wondered if anybody could come up with something even more 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2086.84 2090.8 We looked at those remotes, I mean they are kind of anonymous, very similar looking things. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2090.17 2090.65 Mm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2094.28 2100.11 And you would just have an across the b you would have so many different options that you could do,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2100.11 2107.08 you could have um a plain black one, you could have sparkly pink glittery ones for your little 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2105.51 2108.71 Well the thing is the rubberised covers are going to be s relatively cheap to produce 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2116.62 2117.88 which is another beauty of it. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2108.71 2116.62 that if in a year's time we we get feedback from the design fairs that show something else is coming I mean it's so easy for us to just produce that and it can be slipped on 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2113.86 2114.36 Mm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2116.3 2124.56 And ones tha ones that have rubbery spikes y you know, you could just go so far with it,
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2124.56 2131.77 like a puffer fish, you could just, you could take it wherever, so I think that's quite a flexible thing. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2116.51 2116.73 Right. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2121.37 2122.51 You can you can just 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2122.88 2124.91 Acupressure, you could talk of acupressures. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2123.64 2123.92 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2128.75 2129.17 Yeah. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2137.42 2141.02 it should be moulded it with the design in such a way you can change it every time. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2130.84 2137.42 And finally the body should be retouchable, may maybe ch you can change the body or the case casing the case outside 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2136.69 2137.19 Yes. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2141.32 2151.32 Yeah, yeah j with these rubber these rubberised ca not the actual uh plastic outside case, just the rubber thing that goes round the outside. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2145.42 2145.81 Mm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2149.19 2149.66 The rubber. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2148.21 2149.19 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2149.62 2149.89 Yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2152.26 2157.1 Okay we've got five minutes, um, or that might've been up for a while. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2156.44 2163.82 Mm, so can I just recap uh Sarah, for the decisions that we've made, kinetic charging, the watch-type batteries 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2175.86 2178.53 That's how far we've got, what else do we have to add to our decisions here? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2168.71 2175.86 rubberised buttons on the bottom side, we're gonna use fruit and vegetable colours for the rubber cover, the case itself is plastic. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2163.82 2168.71 um L. C. D. display on th the top side of the flip top,
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2156.57 2156.81 Fine. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2159.26 2159.48 Yeah. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2180.25 2189.91 Fine, uh we were talking of voice recognition also because that we are not for how to look it uh remote control if it's lost. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2183.48 2183.88 Mm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2183.78 2184.19 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2190.83 2193.06 So, are we looking at voice? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2193.34 2196.36 but it's a good idea we just need to check on the cost, is that right? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2190.94 2193.34 Yes, it was just, there was just a cost issue with that,
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2195.78 2199.81 Or maybe like uh William was suggesting in the last thing some devices you put on key chains. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2204.25 2208.13 So we can if financially voice recognition is not feasible we could go for a whistle. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2201.36 2204.25 For l yeah, the whistle. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2201.54 2203.23 Oh yeah, yeah the whistle ones, yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2217.03 2219.64 And incorporating the company logo? 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2220.58 2220.75 Yep. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2221.33 2222.16 Have you 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2222.6 2225.4 Uh sorry I didn't mention this, but we'll be incorporating in the design. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2230.61 2235.85 it's not just a case of having a little R. R. hidden somewhere, they do want it to be obvious that it's our product don't they? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2226.56 2230.61 'Cause I took it from the feedback you gave in the last meeting from y from y your report,
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2225.71 2226.56 Mm. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2226.58 2227.15 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2254.19 2260.57 The point is that it's got to stand out somehow differently but I think it does, without that so I'm not worried about that. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2250.35 2254.19 Obviously it'll have a logo on it just like everything, but everything else has a logo on it. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2244.76 2250.35 Um, you associate the name with the individual product that it is and that does the work for you. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2235.57 2244.76 Well they do, but I think we can you could well it is, it is, I think you just address that with um advertising. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2238.38 2241.19 Since it's the only one of its kind on the market it's obviously gonna be ours. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2244.26 2244.55 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2247.83 2248.36 Yeah. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2248.51 2248.92 Okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2257.1 2257.55 Okay. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2264.32 2268.42 I think that was you talked about a beeper for a location, have we just rejected that in favour of voice recognition then? 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2261.5 2264.32 Did we I know at the last meeting we spoke about a beeper,
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2260.3 2261.5 Okay. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2268.77 2276.4 Depending on how i I mean we've got this memo saying that it's something that the company's looking into, so 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2269.86 2271.65 Yeah, depending on the expense of it. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2276.09 2277.79 And they've got in stock, so yeah. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2291.51 2293.25 Right I'm going to wrap it up there. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2286.98 2291.51 But I think we'll find out more about cost afterwards. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2277.63 2286.98 um that seems to make sense, but if it turns out that it's hugely expensive we'd have to cut down somewhere else, then it's worth thinking about. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2288.73 2289.04 Yeah. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2291.54 2291.89 Okay. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2295.07 2295.59 Fine. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2302.58 2303.34 Um 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2296.32 2302.58 I got a end meeting now message on my mo yeah so. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2298.53 2298.98 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004c H02 MEE014 2299.35 2299.94 Did it? 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2300.17 2300.92 Yeah. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2302.57 2303.55 Again a questionnaire huh? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2305.19 2312.55 so I think we've probably got it says, closing we have forty minutes so I um think we've probably got about that time before we come back. 
ES2004c H03 FEE016 2306.69 2307.56 You got to go through. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2314.36 2315.23 It's either that or 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2316.23 2321.1 we only had forty minutes to discuss what we just discussed and don't know how long that took. 
ES2004c H00 MEO015 2321.71 2323.96 I think we are pretty going in a clear direction now. 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2325.7 2326.77 Is everyone happy? 
ES2004c H01 FEE013 2328.67 2331.79 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 3.68 6.86 If you leave them on the whole time you get to look like a noodle the whole time. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 13.41 14.14 Hmm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 15.11 15.99 Is that someone's? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 19.95 20.74 Is that. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 22.99 23.44 Thank you. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 23.93 25.26 three, apparently. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 26.09 26.63 Hmm. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 26.63 26.84 Hmm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 27.38 28.56 Okay, you all switched on. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 27.86 28.38 Okay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 29.06 29.63 Yep, me too. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 33.9 35.52 Okay, um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 32.72 33.9 I presume we're good to go. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 36.64 39.52 minutes um we decided to use a kinetic charger, 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 39.85 40.11 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 40.93 45.64 standard chip, um 'cause it can come in various different sizes, it wasn't uh 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 76.31 82.03 Um and the rubber buttons that we'll use will be anti-R. S. I. . 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 51.94 56.72 The case material is gonna be soft, rubbery, changeable. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 56.72 61.22 Um buttons with a combination of L. C. D. and rubber according to the design. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 61.22 68.12 Um bright funky designs inspired by fruit, keeping with the hip kind of feel. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 47.09 49.97 uh gonna be a problem factor. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 82.03 82.47 Okay? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 49.97 51.94 We wanted a stand-by function. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 68.12 76.31 Um and to try and incorporate voice recognition software into our design until we can find out more about the cost of things like that. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 88.58 90.29 Prototype presentation. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 91.37 92.62 Is that for us? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 92.6 93.81 I think that would be you. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 92.85 93.32 Yep. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 94.1 94.48 Okay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 94.68 98.97 Me and William worked on a prototype, and I think William is going to make a p presentation on that. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 99.49 100.93 Yeah, shall I show? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 102 108.3 Though do you do you wanna do you wanna sh do you wanna hold it and I'll I'll show you the presentation. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 100.93 102 I'll show. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 108.3 109.82 Can I just nick your 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 100.76 101.1 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 103.25 105.86 Make sure the camera's 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 103.62 104.8 I can hold it like 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 106.05 108.22 Yeah, so 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 109.01 109.95 Yes, yes you can. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 109.95 110.86 Wait a second, I'll get it out. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 114.8 115.32 Whoa. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 115.96 116.57 It looks 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 116.05 116.56 Um 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 116.55 117.74 Going a bit crazy over here. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 117.88 118.82 crazy. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 119.25 119.67 Okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 120.76 121.4 Thank you. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 129.88 131.35 Ta-da. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 125.37 129.88 You should have one of those things and you can just take it off. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 125.65 126.23 Um not now. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 127.17 127.52 Oh. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 129.84 130.1 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 132.1 134.53 Oh, where are the hinges? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 138.63 144.53 Okay, so this is our look and feel presentation, the final our final presentation. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 150.93 151.53 Um 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 144.53 150.93 And we'll first look at the exterior of what we've uh come up with over there. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 139.4 139.74 Right. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 141.72 142.15 Mm 'kay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 151.19 151.91 'Kay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 178.38 187.31 Um the um wide choice of colours and sort of patterns, so you've got you've got a lot of customisation with it. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 165.55 175.82 This is underneath the rubberised the rubberised uh outer casing um which there'd be sort of a wide choice they would be attached 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 175.82 178.38 but we can we can come up with that. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 152.77 158.94 It's gonna have a a plastic body um with a sort of standard colour 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 187.31 202.59 Um it's obviously an a sort of clam-shell design and uh the um the top L. C. D. screen that you can see that would b would be sort of um 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 158.94 165.55 either we're thinking some something fairly neutral like a a white or a light blue or something. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 153.04 153.88 You able to look? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 155.57 155.91 Yep. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 168.24 168.62 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 178.12 178.46 Okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 206.7 215.49 it would be sort of inset into the into the top and the buttons at the bottom would d so so it'll fully close flat. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 226.66 234.22 thinking about it now, could y could also probably attach to the flipping open and shut as well, so that you could probably get a bit of 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 203.71 206.7 how do you say, it's yeah yeah 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 215.49 217.71 Yeah, yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 217.71 226.66 And working on the inside we've um already said d decided on the kinetic batteries, which actually,
ES2004d H00 MEO015 204.79 207.98 The black and white touch screen wherein people can 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 209.05 209.53 Mm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 209.53 210.5 So it's flush. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 211.03 211.32 Right. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 214.93 216.01 Oh right, okay, yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 233.26 238.77 So put it in the top section rather than the bottom sections, 'cause it's the top part that's okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 249.97 252.72 so we presumed that they'd also be quite cheap. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 243.62 249.97 it did actually say on the email that they were sort of coming in and they were fairly easy to get a-hold of 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 236.55 239.93 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 239.93 243.62 Um we decided that um the voice recognition system 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 235.49 236.55 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 252.72 257.8 So you'd have something like where you'd shout out, where where is the remote and 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 236.06 236.42 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 259.11 261.27 it'll shout back, I'm here, or something. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 262.14 267.08 Or something. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 284.76 291.74 Um the standard, there's be a standard transmission with the T. V. using using all the standard chips that we've talked about. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 263.45 267.23 And then yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 297.67 304.62 it would need two separate P. C. B. s, so it would be joined at the hinge through some sort of cabling. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 267.23 269.55 It wo it won't shout out I'm here or something. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 275.32 281.57 Uh yeah, if it was going like I d well tha that could be something for next time, maybe. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 269.55 275.32 It'll just shout out I'm here, or something to similar effect. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 304.62 316.57 And uh because, obviously, all T. V. s use this, the same infrared medium, we'd just be using using the same thing to transmit the data. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 291.74 297.67 Um it would it would have obviously 'cause it's split over two two different layers,
ES2004d H02 MEE014 316.57 318.36 And the infrared 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 281.57 284.76 You can have a remote that tells you exactly where it is. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 271.08 272.37 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 272.37 273.5 I'm under the sofa. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 271.77 272.07 'Kay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 274.29 275.32 Ah oka 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 274.64 275.93 Or, that would be too complicated. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 291.23 292.62 Infrared. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 319.88 325.52 um sender would be on the on one of the bot the bottom layer 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 325.52 329.72 just at the front of the we haven't I don't think we actually put it on. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 329.09 329.72 Like here. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 330.8 332.1 Yeah, yeah, something like that. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 332.89 336.62 Actually, no, it would be it would have to be on the on the front. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 332.1 332.89 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 336.62 338.4 Oh right, yeah, okay, yeah, I've got you. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 332.28 334.5 Infrared could be here also. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 334.5 335.33 Yeah, here. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 334.2 336.51 Yeah, on the front on the front side of that, yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 341.64 341.96 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 336.48 341.64 So when it's even if it's open here, the signals would go. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 339.8 341.52 It's still pointing, yes. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 339.9 343.91 So when you've actually got it open, it would be facing the T. V. . 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 343.91 348.01 And then finally um on to the interface. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 348.01 358.14 The top screen, as we said, is would be an inset um black and white L. C. D. s touch screen which yeah would 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 342.35 343.35 Yeah, that would make sense. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 356.66 357.39 This one right here. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 380.61 390.89 And now we've we also decided on the inside, we could possibly either have um some some kind of sort of bezzled 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 359.3 370.58 uh have all of all of the the available functions for for the remote on it, uh whereas the bot the bottom screen would just contain the standard buttons,
ES2004d H02 MEE014 370.58 380.61 like the vo volume up and down, channel up and down, power on and off, and uh things to that effect. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 375.28 375.7 Okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 392.4 397.83 uh logo on it, or something inset, or maybe an engraving of the logo on the top. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 398.96 399.71 Which is 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 399.04 403.03 But not interfering with the outside kind of look of the product once it's 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 400.04 402.29 No d not not actually. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 402.29 408.67 No, not uh interfering with l the whole look of the the product when it's uh on the thing. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 408.67 417.09 And finally that's how we put the fashion back into electronics, as that is that's the company logo. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 400.96 401.28 No. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 404.82 405.57 Look up to it. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 405.44 405.78 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 413.43 415.1 Thank you very much. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 415.27 416.22 Yay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 416.53 419.12 Wrapping it all up, okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 419.12 421.99 Um I've now got evaluation criteria. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 417.13 418.06 Well done. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 422.2 422.74 Certainly. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 426.75 427.56 Sorry. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 424.26 426.75 So this is the one. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 431.7 432.17 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 427.07 431.7 It's to be presented. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 428.81 431.05 There you go. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 428.82 429.34 Logged in? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 430.55 430.87 Oops. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 429.34 430.55 Thank you. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 438.47 439.06 Evaluation. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 448.34 450.37 Mm um I I think this is chip. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 452.26 454.15 It's quite similar to what it was before, though. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 469.75 472.49 So this is the first stage of the evaluation. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 454.21 456 Okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 472.49 475.47 Now, the collection of the criteria, as we saw in our previous meeting 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 481.58 486.19 So it's what we've discussed in the last meeting, are we actually meeting those trends and requirements? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 475.47 481.58 was based on the user requirements and trends found in the marketing reports and marketing strategy of our company. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 456 469.75 This stage of the evaluation is really for us as a team to evaluate if we have now got a product specification and prototype design that meets the the criteria that we got from our market research. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 455.38 455.63 Sorry. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 488.36 491.16 Now the findings that we came up with, just a recap, are here. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 508.45 517.64 The design should minimise R. S. I. and be easy to locate and we were still um uh slightly ambivalent as to whether to use voice recognition there,
ES2004d H03 FEE016 499.91 508.45 it should incorporate current fashion trends, and those the two main ones, they were the spongy texture and the fruit and vegetable strong design colours. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 517.64 523.17 though that did seem to be the favoured strategy, but there was also, on the sideline, the though of maybe having a beeper function. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 491.16 499.91 The criteria that we want in this remote control are a fancy look and feel, technological innovation, it should be easy to use,
ES2004d H00 MEO015 504.94 505.44 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 534.66 539.13 We're going to use a seven point scale, where one is true and seven is false. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 549.82 550.8 Any questions there? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 528.8 534.66 I'll just show you how we're going to evaluate our own feedback to this, to what we have so far. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 548.94 549.82 Does that seem clear? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 525.04 528.8 Okay, so we can come back to that slide, if you don't have a note of those. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 543.37 548.94 and I will just do a preliminary rating of all those criteria on the whiteboard here. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 539.13 543.37 We look at each of those criteria that I've just mentioned, I'll call that slide back up 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 543.83 544.45 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 548.5 548.84 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 550.79 551.82 Ah, it's perfect. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 552.41 553.77 So we're going to look at these crite 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 553.36 556.21 Is it everybody is going to evaluate, or just the Market okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 562.26 563.04 Is that okay? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 563.04 565.2 One is true, seven is false. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 555.19 562.26 Yes, we're going to come to w we'll discuss each one and we'll come to a consensus rating between one and seven. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 558.25 558.69 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 561.86 562.21 Okay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 562.82 563.02 'Kay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 570.98 574.36 It will just be criteria one, two, three, four, five, six, or A., B. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 574.36 577.67 C., D., E., F. to confuse it with the number rating. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 569.32 570.98 So I won't write all of that out again. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 567.16 569.32 Right. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 580.75 584.16 This is where I realise how tiny I actually am. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 577.67 580.75 B., C., D., E., F. . 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 582.97 585.33 Just write small. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 586.32 587.19 Criteria 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 590.99 592.04 and rating. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 600.22 601.52 How about that? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 595.77 600.22 Actually, it might be an idea, if we each did give our own individual rating, and we could take an average at the end. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 602.78 608.96 So I'll just separate the ratings by obliques, and if we go one, two, three, four, we know who's who. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 601.52 602.78 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 600.78 601.41 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 601.41 602.04 That works. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 600.95 602.28 Yeah, so you can 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 601 601.69 Yeah, okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 607.67 607.92 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 607.94 608.27 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 626.6 628.86 One is true, seven is false. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 621.47 626.6 How do we feel about this prototype model relating to fancy it is a fancy look and feel. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 617.53 621.47 Criteria A., the fancy look and feel. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 616.02 617.53 Okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 628.86 631.41 My own rating for that would be a two. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 632.52 634.48 One is true and seven is false. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 636.92 637.65 I would agree. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 646.42 646.76 Three. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 638.7 645.67 Yeah, I'd uh yeah I'd probably put it uh two yeah, two or three. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 645.67 646.42 No, three. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 638.8 639.62 I'll just go this way. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 639.49 639.79 Okay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 640.16 640.51 'Kay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 644.98 645.49 Two. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 646.79 647.44 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 649.51 650.04 I would say two. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 650.27 650.7 Two. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 654.95 655.22 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 653.08 654.95 I would say four. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 661.32 665.51 Uh two and three quarters, it that right. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 665.51 666.18 Two and three quarters? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 656.09 661.32 Adding those up, we've got a six and a five, eleven divided by four is what? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 654.1 656.09 A four, okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 662.78 663.75 Mm yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 663.23 663.78 Almost three. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 667.56 668.16 I think yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 668.39 669.52 Yeah, yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 669.39 669.77 Okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 671.92 674.63 Two point seven five, there we go. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 674.63 679.45 Okay, criteria B., criterion B., technologically innovative. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 680.8 683.7 I would give that a three. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 686.39 687.37 I'd give it a one. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 688.95 692.92 Not that you're biased in that it the designer. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 687.77 688.95 Okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 690.05 691.75 No, no, not at all. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 696.02 696.59 A two. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 701.23 702.98 The first one rating, I'm sorry. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 698.92 701.23 Oh sorry, I I got it wrong. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 702.98 704.29 Can you just make it two? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 705.32 707.18 The average oh, for you? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 707.18 708.63 You want your rating to be a two? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 706.03 707.57 Yeah, I I just it the other way. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 705.43 706.03 The first. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 708.98 709.95 Uh in 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 711.82 712.05 Okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 710.37 711.82 Is that what you're saying? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 711.17 712.42 Yep, I just got 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 716.65 718 It's a very slightly altered 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 714.96 716.65 So, I'll work out the average for that again at the end. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 719.59 721.77 Okay, and we're just waiting for your rating f 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 720.69 721.3 two point f 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 721.17 722.86 It's just two point five for that one. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 723.03 724.2 Two point five, okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 723.11 723.59 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 727.55 730.1 Losing one decimal place, that's okay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 728.78 730.85 One is a, seven is false, okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 733.13 734.05 Two, okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 730.99 733.13 So what are you rating for this one, Paw? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 732.46 732.69 Two. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 737.34 739.91 That brings it down to two, nice and simple, yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 735.81 737.34 So that is eight. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 738.4 738.67 Two. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 743.66 744.83 Easy to use? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 741.55 743.66 Okay, ease of use. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 745.99 749.46 Based on what you've said there, I would say a one, true. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 753.08 753.41 Two. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 753.92 754.53 Two. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 760.76 761.58 I would say a two. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 758.53 760.76 I would say a two. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 760.23 761.13 A two, okay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 763.62 764.08 Two. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 764.14 764.55 Two. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 774.83 775.66 Okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 770.76 774.83 We'll just put almost two, because I'm not gonna get into silly decimal places. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 778.98 784.92 Um mm now we're looking at it incorporates current fashion trends 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 784.92 793 now that's particularly in relation to our market research findings about the spongy texture to the exterior and the fruit and vegetable design colours. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 766.42 770.76 I should've said a two to make the arithmetic easy, shouldn't I? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 775.66 778.98 Or we or if we want to really bring it down, we can do later. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 774.43 775.62 Okay, mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 772.44 774.43 One point seven f five. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 774.15 774.47 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 779.76 780.28 D. . 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 785.53 785.85 One. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 793.57 793.84 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 794.46 795.43 Right. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 795.43 801.52 So I'm just thinking, before I give it my rating, you were limited in the use of materials for your prototype here. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 801.52 803.87 Is this actually going to be the colours that you would use? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 801.19 802.64 Yeah, that's 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 810.46 820.45 but the changeable fa faces would uh allow you to get any basically any one of a number of colours that uh th it's full sort of customised. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 803.4 810.46 No, no, the the base colour was um white or or like or l sort of a light blue 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 806.39 806.95 White. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 806.95 808 With for the plastic? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 808 808.61 Uh blue. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 810.67 810.96 Right. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 815.51 816.24 Any 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 824.05 825.85 And the spongy feel is no problem with that. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 818.61 823.12 So we could use any strong fruit and veg colours and that's what we're intending to do. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 823.12 824.05 Okay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 821.44 821.79 Right. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 821.54 824.82 Yeah, yeah, yeah and 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 822.51 822.86 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 822.98 823.21 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 825.89 832.08 No, no, 'cause th that's that's the the spongy feel would be in the rubber that you put round it 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 832.08 834.91 that otherwise it's just sort of hard plastic. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 826 827.71 Yeah, because you'll be having a 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 830.07 831.14 Because of the rubber case. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 832.09 832.68 Okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 835.01 836.83 In that case it's got to be a one for me. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 838.01 839.5 Yeah, I'll give it a one as well. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 839.38 840.46 Yep. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 840.46 840.98 Everybody? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 840.98 841.39 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 840.47 840.79 One. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 843.3 843.81 One. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 848.03 852.94 Uh moving on to does the design minimise repetitive strain injury. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 843.88 846.76 That part was nice and easy. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 846.76 848.03 Okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 845.87 846.71 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 846.15 846.46 Mm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 854.99 856.94 I don't think we've really touched on that a lot. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 856.94 860.08 We've we've discussed it, we haven't really come up with anything that 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 855.02 855.73 Mm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 856.55 857.08 No. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 867.08 871.78 who's sitting like that, and we found so many people did, how do you minimise that on such a small device? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 861.56 863.09 we felt could feasibly reduce that. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 863.09 867.08 We've talked about pointers, but the very use of a remote control, if you're someone who's zapping,
ES2004d H02 MEE014 867.46 868.03 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 878.89 879.57 Um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 871.36 878.89 Well the type of button that we're gonna use in the bottom half, the material, minimises R. S. I. it's meant to. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 875.92 876.62 It's meant to be. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 876.07 876.4 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 878.04 878.41 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 888.55 892.31 So maybe because there's more space, it's not kind of moving around trying to 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 881.91 888.55 maybe because it's slightl with the size that we've got it's quite small, but with the amount of stuff we're putting on it isn't that much. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 887.8 888.18 Mm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 893.07 893.54 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 895.72 899 It's quite obvious just big buttons. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 893.13 895.72 hit accurately the buttons in between. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 899 899.63 Um 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 895.2 895.62 Right. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 899.81 902.94 I think I'm gonna have to be neutral on that and give it a four. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 898.06 899.81 Right. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 902.31 902.87 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 905.59 909.65 Yeah, I'd uh I'd f I'd go for a five, actually, 'cause 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 908.14 909.58 A five, okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 911.53 911.87 Four. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 911.94 915.03 Four and a four okay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 913.17 913.62 Four. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 917.63 919.65 Twenty one is that twenty one? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 919.65 922.02 So that's four point two five. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 922.35 922.55 Yep. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 929.47 935.61 Now we talked about voice recognition, we talked about a beeper, have we really have the designers come to any dec real decision on that? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 925.61 929.47 And finally, last but not least, easy to locate. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 932.8 934.54 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 934.54 939.31 Yeah, it was it was uh a voice voice recognition, yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 936.01 937.54 Voice r recognition. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 942.37 944.33 That is going to be feasible, cost-wise. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 937.33 940.33 It was the I'm here thing, yep. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 940.33 942.37 And are we happy with the costs on that? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 942.76 945.35 Yeah, yeah, that yeah, that's feasible. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 946.41 950.29 I'd go for a I ca we can adjust the volume on that, just as we could volume on T. V. . 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 945.46 946.41 That sounds good then. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 951.26 953.45 Um I think it would r 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 952.16 955.36 So if sombody's in the other room or if T. V. s in different rooms, or. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 962.44 964.49 So it would be s p yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 956.02 962.44 I think it would probably be a a stand it would be a stand it would be quite loud. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 958.22 959.02 A standard. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 961.48 962.09 It would be. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 962.26 963.24 Okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 963.24 964.49 You built into the feature. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 961.68 962.26 Right. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 963.83 968.45 And if you didn't hear it in the room that you were standing in, then you'd realise that it wasn't in that room, you'd go into another room. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 967.33 967.76 Okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 968.07 968.29 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 970.72 971.57 That's a one for me. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 968.99 970.72 Logical. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 971.53 973.08 Yeah, one. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 972.8 975.64 One and one, good. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 973.73 973.97 One. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 976.8 982.5 I do realise that we might be being fairly biased, 'cause it is our product, but 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1017.57 1019.58 or do we have to make further modifications? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 985.82 995.08 We've got our our we've got the highest rating of meeting the specifications that is definitely true for two of the uh six criteria there. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1011.19 1017.57 Do we feel on the basis of tha of these evaluation findings that we can go ahead and now produce this as a prototype and market it 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 995.08 1001.02 That is for um incorporates current fashion trends and is easy to locate. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1001.02 1011.19 The lowest rating we've got, which is really n it's not terribly low, i it's close around neutral is for uh the minimisation of repetitive strain injury. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 980.73 985.82 So, how do we feel about this? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1021.4 1022.18 I don't think so. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1022.9 1026.04 W I thin yeah, I think yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1023.43 1024.4 We happy to go ahead? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1025.58 1026.27 I think we're set. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1024.31 1025.58 I think we yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1031.23 1032.01 and I really doubt if 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1026.9 1031.23 I think for most of those ratings that it's high enough at the upper end of the scale for us to go ahead with that 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1025.61 1026.9 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1033.08 1039.46 on the basis of current technology and our current capabilities, we could actually do much more to minimise that. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1037.84 1040.4 Do much apart from having a huge big 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1039.24 1039.85 Mm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1040.35 1041.99 I know. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1042.79 1045 Well, I hope that's uh clear to the team. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1041.99 1042.79 Okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1045 1048.17 Is there anything you would like to to ask me about the findings before I 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1049.28 1049.65 sum up? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1050.24 1050.81 Don't think so. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1050.44 1050.72 No. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1052.69 1053.57 Fine then. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1050.9 1052.69 Good. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1053.57 1054.64 I'll just leave it there. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1054.64 1055.9 Oops. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1054.33 1055.66 Okay, thank you. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1063.83 1067.22 Okay, I've got finance here now. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1067.22 1070.58 I'm gonna plug this in so you can all see it, if that's okay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1064.69 1065.23 Hmm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1072.23 1072.59 Um. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1072.25 1072.91 Oh yes. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1078.78 1080.04 You want me to b unplug that? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1096.98 1097.68 Yes. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1096.55 1096.98 That's all. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1098.28 1098.81 Thanks. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1108.89 1109.31 Right. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1110.38 1111.03 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1112.61 1113.73 Now I presume 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1115.56 1116.72 that the screen will go blank, 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1117.91 1119.63 that um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1126.68 1132.01 We just type numbers into this and we come out with the final value. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1132.01 1134.84 So are we still on for kinetic? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1126 1126.68 Okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1135.09 1135.43 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1135.45 1135.7 Yes. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1139.95 1142.17 Um it might have influenced our choice. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1136.15 1137.15 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1137.15 1139.95 See, it woulda been handy to have this at the beginning. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1145.09 1147.89 Right, what's happening with the electronics? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1148.34 1151.87 It was a regular chip on print and 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1150.01 1150.8 Chip on print. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1157.94 1158.86 Double-curved. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1158.09 1159.64 Oh, no, no, no, the um 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1161.33 1166.78 Yeah, it's you you've put in three for the number of kinetic cells, there should just be one. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1168.02 1171.13 In the top, it's the number of c yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1169.94 1171.2 Oh, right, okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1172.39 1172.95 Thanks. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1174.66 1179.55 Yeah, and yeah, just a no, one reg v uh 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1175.2 1176.28 So, would there be two? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1179.73 1180.28 One chip. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1180.64 1183.66 Yeah, one of them and one sample sensor and sample speaker. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1183.43 1183.92 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1183.81 1184.36 Okay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1187.64 1188.14 Yep. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1188.18 1189.49 And they're double curved. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1189.49 1190.83 No. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1190.83 1191.46 Y 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1190.93 1192.08 Single-curved. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1191.3 1192.1 One double curve. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1192.93 1194.43 Two, 'cause it's two. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1193.71 1194.32 Two curves, yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1194.81 1196.93 But it has a slightly flattened bottom so it can sit. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1196.93 1197.69 So it can rest. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1197.3 1198.68 So what's a single curve then? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1198.5 1202.57 Yeah, I'd say I'd say it was w yeah, I think I think it's 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1201.68 1202.83 like a domed thing. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1199.33 1201.68 It would just be a flat bottom with one curve. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1202.88 1204.38 So just one double 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1202.99 1203.67 Single-cu 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1204.42 1204.71 Mm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1204.64 1205.74 One double-curved. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1207.04 1207.82 Um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1205.48 1207.04 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1206.93 1211.71 And one no, 'cause one yeah, one's double-curved, and then the other one's 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1207.73 1208.65 Plastic and rubber. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1210.63 1214.04 The other curves at the sides, but it's slightly flattened at the bottom so it doesn't roll over. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1214.04 1214.24 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1213.84 1214.2 Mm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1216.44 1220.34 Um we've got plastic and rubber, haven't we? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1217.76 1218.46 a plastic. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1220.58 1220.8 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1221.78 1224.45 Plastic one and maybe rubber point five. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1221.03 1221.78 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1223.18 1224.13 And special colour. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1227.56 1230.99 No I think rubber, since it's being used just as a casing, we can put point five. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1227.88 1228.17 Um 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1232.31 1233.05 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1232.9 1233.29 Do you think? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1233.49 1234.43 Yeah, because there are 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1235.49 1238 I think it allows the point five, yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1238 1238.94 We can use that. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1239.11 1239.8 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1239.32 1239.72 Okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1240.69 1242.47 What does it mean if you put point five for that? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1244.59 1245.35 We're using just 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1242.52 1244.59 It means we are not using a lot of rubber actually. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1244.83 1246.48 It would be like saying we're using 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1246.79 1249.56 a very low quantity of rubber compared to plastic. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1250.74 1252.61 See, it says case material. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1253.4 1253.76 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1258.43 1260.08 It's including, it's including. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1253.85 1258.43 So we're not actually using plastic in the case, are we? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1257.14 1259.31 No, no, that's it's as an extra. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1259.48 1260.93 Right, okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1260.45 1266.79 So that shouldn't that shouldn't be actually on there, because that's not incorporated in the cost of the remote you get. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1267.28 1271.72 But it is gonna be part of the total cost, and there's nowhere else we can we can put that in, is there? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1274.84 1276.76 So do we not have to account for it in the cost somewhere there? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1271.72 1274.84 There's nowhere else we can code for the the rubber used in the casing. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1278.4 1281.24 Okay, we'll just put it in as we'll put in as half. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1281.25 1281.47 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1283.57 1286.36 Or sh we should just put it in as one, because the plastic is zero anyway. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1286.33 1287.64 Yeah, okay. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1286.7 1286.94 Mm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1289.38 1292.2 No, we don't step on anyone's toes. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1292.2 1293.94 Okay, special colour, do we need that? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1294.33 1299.34 Might do, if we go for some of the more exotic aubergines and such like colours. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1296.43 1297.34 N yeah, okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1300.33 1301.53 Interface. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1302.11 1302.72 Push-button. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1304.21 1308.25 Yeah, the push-button's one and L. C. display one. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1304.99 1305.32 One. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1306.94 1307.42 An 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1309.63 1310.08 One. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1311.34 1312.27 And buttons 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1311.8 1312.18 Buttons 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1370.74 1370.87 S 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1371.74 1373.58 I think we could change the battery also. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1373.58 1375.94 Instead of going for kinetic how about going for a standard battery. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1382.24 1383.83 Is it oh, it's brought it slightly down. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1377.35 1382.24 Has that not made any d if you click off that square now, has that not made any difference? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1382.03 1383.12 Well yes. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1383.15 1386.73 Oh no, it was seven five it's changed not a lot. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1382.35 1383.15 Has that not gone up? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1386.26 1391.26 So is is uncurved completely and just actually making the rubber case the curved thing, is that going to make a difference? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1390.02 1390.32 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1391.61 1392.63 Uncurved, flat. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1395.63 1397.85 Oh, it's not made any difference, has it? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1397.52 1398.57 No, we'll have 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1397.89 1399.6 No, it just surprises one. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1398.63 1400.57 Oh, it's not calculated it. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1399.38 1402.07 No, no, you've got to click off to calculate it again. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1400.02 1400.28 Oh. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1402.8 1403.55 Okay, there we go. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1403.46 1405.07 It's brought it down slightly. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1404.34 1406.39 It's not a lot though. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1412.79 1419.27 And then it would be fine, because the exchange range would make it about twelve. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1410.65 1412.79 It could be in Dollars. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1419.27 1420.12 No. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1405.18 1410.65 C it might uh you might you might be assuming that that is in Euros. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1415.67 1417.6 I don't think so. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1416.36 1417.73 Is there anything on the menu 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1416.42 1419.56 We haven't been dealin we haven't been dealing with dollars though, I think 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1418.58 1418.85 No. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1419.89 1421.14 Ri I think it's in Euro. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1421.12 1424 Okay, so the highest we've got is the electronics here. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1425.41 1426.01 Um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1427.23 1429.45 and the interface. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1427.47 1428.8 If we tr um. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1429.88 1436.45 If we moved away from our much loved idea of a kinetic battery and just went with the standard batteries, would that make a huge difference? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1433.73 1435.11 And going to a regular bat 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1440.16 1443.24 The biggest one would be taking away if you took away 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1436.48 1440.16 Yeah, the standard, it um it would make one difference. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1436.81 1437 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1444.22 1446.89 What I feel is, customers never said anything about the battery. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1449.39 1452.09 But shape and colours, that's something we shouldn't comprimi 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1446.89 1449.39 It's internal, nobody looks into the battery. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1445.43 1445.79 If you to 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1448.55 1448.92 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1450.29 1455.09 And people are used to buying batteries, they're not gonna say I'm not getting this, 'cause I've got to buy a battery for a remote control. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1450.99 1454.44 If if you take away the voice, I I do I don't like to say it,
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1454.44 1457.18 but if you take away the voice recognition, then you've got it. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1458.66 1460.22 Where's that special form? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1461.33 1463.05 Mm mm mm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1461.66 1463.38 Should we see what difference it makes? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1462.96 1463.49 Where's the 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1464.18 1468.69 No 'cause it's samples sens sample speaker. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1463.47 1464.18 Yeah i yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1468.69 1472.06 If you took away that, that'll make it twelve point three five. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1464.44 1465.67 where's the voice recognition? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1464.5 1464.97 Um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1468.64 1469.56 Right, okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1472.12 1473.61 Well the kinetic is three. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1473.61 1476.41 If we change it to the battery it's that's minus three. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1475.4 1480.15 They n n yeah, but you p minus three plus two. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1480.79 1482.41 I keep seeing zero. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1480.23 1480.79 Oh, right. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1483.56 1484.32 Um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1488.68 1493.09 We can do it some other way, we can do it doesn't have to be voice recognition. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1493.09 1500.37 We could do the voice recognition for, you know, business class or something, you know, like an upgraded version. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1500.37 1502.18 You could choose to have that or not. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1497.73 1498 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1501.54 1507.6 But they but I mean in I don't see why we have to sell it for twenty five Euros now 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1499.76 1501.54 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1507.6 1511.32 because they w they were saying they were quite willing to pay more for better product. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1499.95 1500.28 Sure. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1500.31 1500.59 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1511.8 1514.59 But we're still working to um head o 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1513.26 1516.59 So should we just change the design specification then? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1515.58 1517.53 Make it costly. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1527.56 1530.37 But we need to work to that specification to start with. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1517.1 1521.86 If we if we're working to head office specifications as this is what this project team's working for 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1533.09 1539.81 but our object is so distinctive that that in itself is gonna make it easier to locate as a f you know in a first instance. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1521.86 1527.56 we can put in our recommendations for what we've we've found and what we the consensus that we've come to as a result of the meetings. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1530.37 1533.09 And I think the voice recognition sounds wonderful 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1539.81 1544.91 Um as you say, we can offer the voice recognition initially to business class customers and so 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1515.68 1517.1 We can put in our recommendations. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1517.91 1518.33 Yes. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1522.07 1522.46 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1526.76 1527.14 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1526.84 1528.56 We c we could s 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1530.05 1531.28 Yeah, we could say 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1530.07 1530.52 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1544.93 1546.05 Okay, we can 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1547.13 1547.72 Yeah, I s 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1563.47 1564.67 Right, okay, so 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1556.25 1560.26 They like their gadgets, they like something that's completely different. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1547.48 1556.25 make the price fit, and then say if we'd had our budget, we would've had this, because it also sets it apart from the crowd. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1560.26 1563.47 It's s something completely different associated with your company. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1549.97 1552.03 And then say we recommend 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1552.07 1552.46 Mm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1553.35 1553.61 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1553.38 1553.63 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1555.06 1557.99 'Cause we've done all the background work to go for that if they want it. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1559.56 1559.83 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1560.27 1560.84 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1565.4 1567.96 So if we take voice recognition out 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1570.6 1573.89 Twelve point three five. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1567.94 1570.6 That'll do it. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1573.89 1576.88 Is it twelve point fif was it twelve point fifty? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1572.23 1573.5 Yeah we are close to the budget. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1572.58 1573.21 we are. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1575.01 1575.89 Two five. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1575.05 1577.21 It's two point five. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1577.21 1579.07 No, it's twelve point two five. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1579.89 1580.71 Are you sure? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1580.71 1582.61 Sorry, not meaning to doubt your words there. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1581.9 1584.82 Yeah well two, twelve point two five times two is 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1587.47 1589.64 Are they really going to quibble about ten P. ? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1586.28 1587.47 Right. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1586.69 1588.15 twenty five, isn't it? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1588 1589.33 It's twelve point five maybe, then. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1594.56 1595.66 Which is less than ten P. . 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1591.45 1594.56 Or point zero one of a Euro? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1604.73 1606.47 So half of the price would be 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1601.5 1604.73 I don't know what it said fifty percent of the cost. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1604.63 1608.41 I think the agenda one was where the um price was, wasn't it? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1608.41 1608.67 No. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1612.95 1613.88 I think it is the first one. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1614.53 1615.34 That's today's 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1619.4 1620.69 kick off meeting,. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1622.62 1623.38 Twelve point five. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1623.7 1625.01 Mm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1625.01 1626.18 I thought that's what it was. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1624.27 1625.13 Ah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1624.72 1626.1 So we are under the budget. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1626.45 1627.2 Well done, people. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1627.91 1628.73 So we're okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1630.55 1632.17 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1630.89 1634.18 So is that uh got us covered for the electronics then? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1634.18 1636.8 We don't need something else to take that place? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1636.8 1637.26 Okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1634.52 1634.81 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1637.76 1642.24 'Cause that that was just a bought-on extra, you could just take that out 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1636.26 1637.76 No. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1643.77 1645.35 and that would be fine, yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1644.7 1645.48 Okay. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1653.17 1653.75 Seems fine. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1655.05 1655.98 Yeah, I think that's brilliant. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1655.8 1658.07 Except voice recognition, everything is 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1657.33 1659.21 Right, so we've done that. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1663.72 1665.61 Product evaluation. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1662.03 1663.72 Okay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1669.48 1675.13 Because we've got decisions that we would have made that we weren't didn't feel able to make. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1675.13 1675.74 Um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1666.92 1669.48 We've done room for creativity, haven't we? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1669.25 1669.56 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1669.66 1669.97 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1677.48 1679.97 I presume we discussed leadership and teamwork. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1680.41 1680.67 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1683.69 1685.23 Yes. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1684.26 1684.48 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1685.36 1687.36 um in the sense that 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1689.15 1691.88 um did you feel like a team? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1691.88 1698.06 Or did you feel like uh autonomy? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1695.04 1696.24 Yeah, I'd say, as a team. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1703.15 1712.38 And I've certainly felt heard, listened to in that in relevant areas we've been able to, you know, give and take and adjust our remit where necessary. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1696.56 1703.15 Although we had our separate tasks, there was so much interaction, so much that we needed to um bounce off each other. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1697.03 1698.21 I think we had a nice time. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1698.48 1698.85 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1701.17 1703.07 Find out from each other, yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1711.3 1711.6 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1711.58 1711.97 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1720.27 1722.18 There is more of uh true cohesive teamwork. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1717.14 1720.27 It's not like people trying to cut each other. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1722.18 1725.57 We came to a very predic creative design, yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1713.31 1717.14 Yeah, I think there was uh very constructive feedback by everybody. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1726.72 1727.61 Yeah, and uh 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1729.64 1731.37 And Sarah, you coordinated the work very well. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1728.92 1729.64 Yeah, I think. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1731.84 1732.96 Thank you. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1732.96 1734.46 How did you find it? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1753.66 1762.75 I think it would have made it into the final product if it was actually if if if we'd seen the marketing before the initial specification was put out,
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1734.64 1739.55 Yeah, no, I thought it it went really well and I yeah 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1739.55 1748.93 I I feel that everyone was listened to and all the points that were raised seem to have been sorted out,
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1762.75 1767.99 I think maybe it would've come out a d little different, but yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1748.93 1753.66 although we didn't quite make the voice recognition in there, but that's that's good. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1753.18 1753.63 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1766.96 1768.32 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1788.28 1788.9 Um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1786.69 1788.28 I like that. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1783.99 1786.69 then it didn't matter, 'cause it was just another idea in the field. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1778.69 1783.99 you know, y it didn't matter it saying what you thought, because if it wasn't something that was that relevant,
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1768.32 1778.69 I liked the fact that we could say an idea and it'd be suggested that that wasn't the best idea, but no one felt like shot down,
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1778.02 1778.37 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1778.4 1778.8 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1786.58 1786.94 Mm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1787.34 1787.63 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1790.6 1794.86 Well you two created that wonderful specimen of a Play-Doh model. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1790.08 1790.6 teamwork. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1795.18 1796.01 Yeah, well. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1795.96 1799.2 I think that was the best part of the 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1805.51 1806 Um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1802.5 1805.51 But that's nothing to do with the teamwork at all. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1795.96 1802.5 Um uh I'm still not caught up. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1812.83 1814.19 And fake R. C. s. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1806.77 1812.83 Maybe we should think of branching out into children's toys and fake mobile phones as a side line. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1810 1810.65 Maybe. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1813.16 1813.39 'Kay. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1814.44 1815.97 No, that was quite fun. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1820.55 1821.33 Any ideas? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1815.97 1820.55 Um means, whiteboard, digital pens, etcetera, what does that mean? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1820.25 1823.33 Discuss which ones yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1820.59 1825.5 How do we evaluate the materials we had for communicating and sharing information? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1825.79 1826.1 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1826.9 1828.72 Could it've been better, was it adequate? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1829.63 1835.03 Yeah, I think I think we probably woulda used the outer email system more, had we actually 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1835.62 1836.67 Had time to kind of 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1836.52 1837.14 Mm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1837.06 1841.83 had had more time and if we'd been separated more. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1846.14 1848.42 rather than having to email it, yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1848.42 1849.84 But it was nice having it there. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1841.51 1846.14 Yeah, 'cause we could just sort of say, sorry what did you say about that or what do you think about that,
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1843.24 1843.52 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1845.84 1846.17 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1847.38 1847.86 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1847.92 1848.29 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1851.03 1853.5 Um like the whole picture of the thing. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1857.17 1862.63 But I think it's good, like uh we spent times individually. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1854.16 1857.17 Yeah, moving around the room. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1856.75 1857.08 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1894.74 1897.43 I never thought of a remote control with a flip top. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1899.96 1902.96 Yeah, I think it's new ideas in general, rather than 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1904.83 1909.22 it so it's I mean nothing is new, but it's applying it to a d in a different area. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1900.85 1904.83 It's really borrowing from other areas, it's, you know, bringing things from other areas in,
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1901.99 1902.3 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1906.99 1907.39 Mm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1909.27 1910.17 Vegetables. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1910.2 1912.04 That's mine. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1912.25 1912.7 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1915.75 1917.09 Yeah, no. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1917.09 1918.88 Well they have to come from somewhere, don't they? 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1916.64 1917.39 Yeah, it's 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1918.31 1919.44 Absolutely, yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1920.04 1920.79 The thing is 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1936.78 1942.16 'cause it's w something we should think about, but obviously no one's put any great deal of thought into it. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1931.97 1936.78 I mean they're slightly different, so if someone's been shut in the room and said make ours a bit different from everyone else's,
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1920.2 1922.99 And as sh as w sorry, you go. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1922.99 1931.97 Um as was shown by your presentation with all of the other controls, remote controls, no one's thought about it particularly. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1921.75 1922.51 Yep, sorry, go on Sarah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1930.56 1930.94 No. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1930.95 1931.27 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1937.5 1937.92 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1949.29 1952.22 Can't you get the one that we used for the last one? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1959.53 1962.77 They're trying to ship the D. V. D. player, the video player, the T. V. . 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1939.72 1944.51 Yeah, I do I don't think the the companies are really concerned. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1954.47 1959.53 Uh d they don't really think about it, because normally, the remote control isn't the product which they're trying to ship. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1944.51 1949.29 They're just like we've got a D. V. D. player, does anyone remember the remote control? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1952.22 1954.47 Yeah, just jazz it up a bit. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1952.42 1952.62 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1953.89 1954.23 Mm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1954.5 1955.26 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 1960.07 1962.02 Yeah, the focus isn't on to that, yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1977.13 1984.94 I mean they could even go into um you go in with an idea and they design it on Photoshop and then they just get it printed on the plastic,
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1984.94 1992.06 you would pray you would pay a lot extra, because it's individually being a plastic was being made for you. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1969.84 1977.13 I mean if you could have something that's a proper funky thing, a funky item that's individual, individual to you 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1992.06 1995.56 But people could have anything that they wanted. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1961.76 1969.84 But then when it everything is really smart, and you've just got this big chunk of black thing sitting on your coffee table, it doesn't go,
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1964.63 1964.92 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1967.13 1967.44 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1970.05 1970.65 No. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1972.82 1973.2 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1984.68 1985.01 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1991.38 1991.9 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 1995.45 1995.9 Mm. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 2011.18 2013.02 Like Sarah was telling, everything's 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 2006.13 2011.18 And new f television products coming up, but nobody giving uh much idea to this. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 1996.81 2006.13 Surprising to me is like uh people give a lot of attention to modifying mobile phones, like a real want to see a new launch or something like that. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 1997.12 1997.92 Because of the produ 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2002 2002.3 Mm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2005.7 2006.06 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2028.51 2031.37 There are innovations in that that people don't really want. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2031.37 2036.87 I see people wanting a model of the phone they were really happy with, and they can't get it anymore and it's innovation for innovation's sake 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2011.08 2018.17 I think it's really good that this has been very market research based, because just going back to mobile phones,
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2036.87 2039.61 and I think it's wonderful our company's so R. and D. based. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2024.07 2028.51 We see it in mobile phones a lot, and tha that's where we've borrowed a lot of our ide our ideas from. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2018.17 2024.07 I mean this is the first change in remote control devices that I can really, you know, say is is obvious and visible. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 2015.69 2015.97 Right. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2031.17 2031.83 Yes. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2031.37 2031.77 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2034.61 2035.07 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2039.73 2043.08 Well, it's innovation for money's sake. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2045.44 2045.99 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2043.08 2045.44 The the people have to keep buying. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 2040.11 2040.54 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2042.38 2044.21 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2044.21 2045.79 But forcing it onto people, yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2045.79 2048.92 It's things that, you know, they might want to buy the thing they really want. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2055.82 2056.42 Yes. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2052.9 2055.82 because the phones have moved on, things like that. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2048.06 2052.9 And you can't get you've got your handset that works fine, but you can't get the battery anymore for that type of phone,
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2051.83 2052.79 Mm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2052.79 2053.21 Mm. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2054.57 2056.62 Or there isn't a cover to fit it or whatever, yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2059.04 2059.58 Um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2057.78 2059.04 It's madness. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2059.06 2059.83 See I think 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2062.23 2063.61 In closing 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2064.6 2066.19 There we go. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2066.19 2075.14 Um our costs are below budget with recommendations that they the budget be increased, but I think I don't know, d what do you think? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2075.14 2077.52 Do you think that's takes into account um 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2079.96 2080.71 overheads 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2084.71 2089.83 And the heating for the building, do you think our budget includes everything, all the costs that are going out? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2081.56 2084.71 like us being well paid kind of a thing? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2085.81 2086.12 Well. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2089.6 2092.96 I think it was just the produc uh just the production cost of the phone. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2091.17 2093.27 I think that was just the the physical. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2099.94 2106.23 So maybe increasing it, you would also have to increase the price that it's sold at. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2106.23 2108.81 But I think but you were saying that that's quite 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2093.12 2099.94 So it looks well it looks like it's gonna be fifty percent profit, you've still got all of the overheads to come out of that. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2096.66 2096.96 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2097.23 2097.71 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2099.96 2100.23 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 2105.59 2107.07 Maybe fifty percent more. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2105.88 2110.64 Yeah, I think yeah I don't from the market research. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2108.55 2111.19 But I think in the remit that we were given, it was very specific. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2117.81 2122.44 I don't think that's something we have to look at and find a way of raising the cash for. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2111.19 2112.69 I think we've done what we were required to do 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2112.69 2117.81 and I think there'll have to be another project team or a new project for us to look at at those kind of things. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2112.64 2113.1 Hmm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2120.6 2120.88 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2120.85 2121.23 No. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2123.27 2124.44 Yeah, it was 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2123.98 2131.52 I think we've done very well to get within budget and it still makes such an innovative item that I think people are really gonna want. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2126.04 2126.37 Mm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2129.56 2130.04 Yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 2132.53 2132.96 Yeah. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2133.17 2136.46 It's a shame it won't ever get made. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2136.46 2137.44 Maybe it will. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2137.44 2139.84 Maybe someone'll r run down and patent it. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2136.92 2140.36 Maybe they are gonna steal our ideas and sell it. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2136.48 2136.92 Maybe it will. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2134.77 2136.48 I know. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 2136.65 2137.19 Who knows? 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2138.21 2139.94 I it's top secret. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2139.94 2142.79 Um it's it is it's a conspiracy going on here. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2142.79 2143.76 That's what it is. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2158.9 2164.5 so I'll be delegating in my um role as Project Supervisor, so good luck. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2152.14 2158.9 Oh, so we've got about fifty minutes to catch up with everything that I fell behind with,
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2142.71 2147.36 Um the project has been evaluated well and truly. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2147.36 2152.14 Um and we've got the meeting survey and questionnaire. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 2146.44 2146.76 Yeah. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2146.92 2147.39 Mm-hmm. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 2151.4 2152.34 There's a final questionnaire. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2160.25 2163.67 In your yeah. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 2167.51 2169.48 Celebration, you didn't talk about that. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2169.54 2172.03 I think the celebration is the twenty five pounds. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2172.88 2174.64 Either that or we'll be dancing on the desks. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2176.67 2176.91 Oh. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2176.91 2177.77 Questionnaire. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2182.56 2183.5 Okay. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2183.5 2184.23 Is that it then? 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2184.79 2186.77 Um yeah, just the last, I think. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2191.23 2192.53 Awesome. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2191.81 2195 I think I've got minutes for two of the meeting and the 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2196.19 2197.03 last thingy. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2197.92 2199.58 Questionnaire done. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2200.84 2204.92 Oh, I didn't have to rate you on how much you influenced the meeting this time. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2204.6 2208.81 Was that not the questionnaire for the how you felt you'd done in your 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2209.98 2210.17 thing? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2211.51 2213.79 But do we not sometimes evaluate in these meetings too? 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2210.77 2211.51 Oh, right. 
ES2004d H03 FEE016 2213.79 2214.31 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2211.56 2213.46 I don't think. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2213.46 2215.42 Yeah, the the s yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2215.42 2219.19 I think yeah, questionnaire seven was the one I did just before the meeting. 
ES2004d H00 MEO015 2220.03 2220.34 Yeah. 
ES2004d H02 MEE014 2221.15 2221.33 Mm. 
ES2004d H01 FEE013 2221.67 2222.25 I just got con 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 57.69 60.85 Uh I think the first thing we do is introduce ourselves 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 54.95 55.86 Okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 55.86 57.69 Everybody ready? 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 55.7 56.03 Okay. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 56.9 57.04 Yeah. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 57.25 57.7 I think so. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 61.54 62.57 Yeah, that's a good plan. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 62 65.47 and everybody's name and what your function is? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 65.47 67.29 So maybe we start with you? 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 67.39 69.09 Yeah, my name is Francina. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 76.61 80.83 And my role is to design uh a television remote control. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 66.63 67.39 Okay. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 69.09 76.61 And I'm uh an user interface my role is uh the main responsibility is user interface. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 76.08 76.43 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 81.04 81.69 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 81.69 82.05 Okay. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 83.39 85.33 And I'm a marketing person. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 85.33 86.94 I wanna figure out how to sell them. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 87.49 87.98 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 87.98 88.59 And your name is? 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 88.82 89.69 My name is Eileen. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 90.21 90.52 Okay. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 91.31 91.85 Yeah. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 92.69 107.4 Um uh my role is industrial designer and my responsibilities are uh uh um deal with the technical-functional designs and specifications of user interface and dealing with user interface design. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 91.85 92.69 Uh I'm Jeanne-Oui. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 113.07 118.17 So why don't we look at the presentation to see what we really are supposed to do. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 108.51 110.71 And as you already know I am Betty. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 110.71 113.07 I am the project manager for today. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 107.88 108.51 Very good. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 118.75 119.91 Um. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 118.76 119.05 Okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 126.11 132.38 the tools are, I think, we already I guess the tool is really our the computer, as far as I can see. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 121.34 126.11 Yes y opening, acquaintance, tool training well,
IS1009a H03 FIO089 131.13 131.49 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 140.97 146.16 Um, I don't think we have any great discussion at this point. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 132.87 138.04 Uh we get ins each of us will get instructions and we'll take it from there. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 146.16 146.77 Um. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 138.04 140.97 Project plan, that falls under the same heading pretty much. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 145.55 145.79 No. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 151.68 157.54 This thing we are gonna um uh design is a new remote control. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 149.44 151.68 Here is what this thing should be. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 157.54 162.32 Uh should be original, trendy, and, of course, user friendly. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 159.51 159.78 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 165.19 166.99 So maybe you wanna make some notes of that. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 188.06 188.34 Okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 195.04 195.27 Okay? 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 195.56 195.82 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 197.44 201.64 Here is what the functional design is supposed to achieve. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 196.38 197.44 All right. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 201.64 202.4 Um. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 211.57 218.2 The same goes for the conceptual design, there will be individual work whic and then discussion afterwards. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 203.78 211.57 That is it's gonna be individual work and then at the meeting we'll discuss what uh we have come up with. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 219.44 222.12 Detailed design, same thing basically. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 220.46 221.55 Mm 'kay so 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 222.76 226.45 Three different types of design that we're gonna be concerned with okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 226.94 227.27 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 225.98 226.94 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 236.11 238.38 Functional, conception 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 241.01 242.5 and detailed. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 243.94 245.45 I can't write with this thing. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 248.12 251.04 Maybe we should redesign it. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 249.48 252.7 Yes. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 252.79 254.69 After we've finished the remote control we'll get to that. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 254.68 257.36 Yeah, okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 257.36 257.74 All right? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 264.7 268.72 Does anybody want to go and see how the white board works? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 260.02 264.7 Then, tool training try out the white board, participant can draw their favourite animal. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 268.72 272.52 So that in case we have to, in the next meeting, present something on the white board. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 274.68 276.12 You wanna go Eileen and 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 276.23 278.52 Okay, I'll see what I can do. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 278.52 278.89 See if I r 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 277.58 279.86 Whether you without hanging yourself. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 280.08 285.51 See if I remember how to draw a kitty cat or a rabbit or something. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 290.82 291.14 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 288.1 290.82 And remember you have to press so it works. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 292.19 297.75 Um uh um traditional kitty cat. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 290.06 292.19 So that it will record okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 307.52 310.64 Fat, a fat cat. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 318.12 318.45 Okay. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 307.98 315.73 I've a very fat cat. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 315.73 318.12 And it likes to sit like that. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 317.63 318.04 Okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 320.52 322.58 And you're Francine, right? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 322.58 327.5 Would you like s like just to see um how it feels, so that you have a little idea? 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 322.23 324.16 Yes, I'm Francina. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 324.16 325.08 Yes, sure. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 328.77 332.82 Am I supposed to wipe off that or okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 329.04 329.43 In 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 330.83 331.53 No, that's okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 330.22 330.83 No, no. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 331.58 333.36 No, Okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 333.57 335.49 I don't know, we'll get to that later. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 336.02 336.43 Okay. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 337.47 339.63 What should I draw? 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 347.07 348.31 Snake. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 347.99 349.78 I'm going to draw a snake. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 355.86 358.95 How does it look like? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 359.98 360.45 Okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 355.92 359.98 Okay. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 357.32 358.06 Uh, okay. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 359.99 364.82 I hope the kitty cat is hungry 'cause I don't like snakes. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 367.25 372.72 Here's the project finance uh which, of course, we all have to think about when we design this thing. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 372.72 375.93 Um selling price is supposed to be twenty five Euro. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 377.25 386.09 Uh profit aim for the company is fifty million Euro, the market range unlimited meaning international 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 377.48 377.93 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 386.53 387.02 Okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 387.4 393.64 and the production cost should not exceed hopefully should be less than twelve fifty Euro. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 395.23 398.51 Mm 'kay that should keep everybody on their toes and challenged. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 398.76 399.29 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 400.24 400.93 Profit. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 402.86 406.48 Um is fifty mm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 403.81 412.67 So these are all things, of course, to remember with the budget and when you design to materials, cost, etcetera. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 419.16 427.58 Now, uh the discussion I guess is um does anyone of you have experience with remote control? 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 420.14 420.46 Oops. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 428.69 431.19 Yeah, of course, using remote control. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 431.19 431.54 Yeah. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 433.24 434.99 And um 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 428.95 433.24 I exp I s 'cause we we use 'em we use 'em, right, everyday. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 429.73 430.1 Yes. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 436.56 443.99 now having used a remote control for years does anybody already have like an idea like things you didn't like with it,
IS1009a H00 FIE088 443.99 449.23 things you would like to change, things you would like to improve with this thing ye any first ideas? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 450.37 460.58 Would you like it to be smaller, bigger, have more have more buttons on it or maybe clearly better marked buttons, you know, things like that? 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 451.06 451.37 Uh. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 453.94 454.42 Yeah, I 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 461.37 461.8 Yeah. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 459.86 461.37 Yeah. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 472.76 479.14 Like uh the remote control which we use for T. V., it shou uh it should be used f uh for some other purpose also,
IS1009a H01 FIO087 465.71 469.79 Yeah, those which we get here nowadays it's very long. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 469.79 472.76 And um and it should have multi-purpose. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 479.14 486.73 like controlling the uh temperature inside the house or for air-conditioners, or for heating system. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 461.46 465.71 Yes, I I feel that all the remote should be very compact. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 466.21 466.45 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 465.15 466.21 Small, right. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 469.29 469.68 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 481.37 482.62 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 483.66 484.34 Okay. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 481.7 482.73 Audio player. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 482.73 483.66 Oh. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 486.72 495.26 So it should be a multi-functional uh gadget that would um control all your household uh uh machines basically. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 488.48 489.46 Yes, exactly 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 489.97 490.4 Yes. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 490.4 490.46 Hmm. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 492.57 492.92 Yes. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 492.78 495.24 Divides us Yeah. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 495.24 495.51 Yeah. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 494.72 495.04 Yeah. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 495.04 495.68 Exactly. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 496.14 502.76 At um twelve fifty Euros per 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 502.77 503.46 Well. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 503.78 506.75 Well who knows if we get a really good designer maybe we can do that. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 506.18 506.79 Yeah. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 507.8 513.57 We certainly can try to I agree with her that to market something successfully it should do some more things. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 518.12 521.07 Now, of course, the other thing to think there is maybe the design. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 513.11 518.12 It should be something new it should be s it it should do something different than than just what we have. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 517.36 517.76 That's right. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 517.79 518.74 Yeah, of course. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 518.13 518.5 Yeah. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 523.26 525.44 All the almost all the remotes 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 521.05 523.26 Yeah, design should be, yeah it should be different. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 528.29 533.45 Maybe it should different colours or materials or you know. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 524.22 528.29 Like trendy no like f for earlier we saw maybe it should be something trendy you know. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 533.45 538.73 Um so yeah shapes right, you know, like kidney shape feels better in your hand or something, you know. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 532.65 533.04 Yeah. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 527.83 532.65 Yeah, maybe ten I do yeah, colours and al shapes also. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 527.9 528.82 Yes, exactly. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 530.67 532.46 Are different shapes. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 532.46 532.69 Yes. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 537.03 537.48 Yes. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 538.09 539.24 Yeah of course yeah. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 538.53 542.32 Yeah okay, friendly shape, that would help. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 550.25 551.13 They can't find it. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 542.32 550.25 I think another thing that would help is um if it beeps when you clap, because I think one of the big things that happens is people lose them. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 539.97 540.33 Yeah. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 544.12 544.57 Yes. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 558.27 565.64 And and they suddenly the phone rings and they want to turn the T. V. off and they say, where the hell is my my remote control yeah? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 551.23 558.27 That is true, because they put a newspaper or they put it behind a plant or, we you know, whatever. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 555.67 556.72 Yeah. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 558.16 558.63 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 566.02 567.12 So some 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 574.71 575.93 So if lost 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 573.17 573.73 Yeah. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 566.14 573.17 Well or yeah or if it's really, if it's really in a dark spot that it gives out a a sound or a signal. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 573.73 574.71 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 572.01 574.72 Yeah, some beep or something like that, so that we can go 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 572.64 576.76 Uh so, so it's really the beep or, or a light should blink. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 573.12 573.25 Or a b 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 576.74 581.45 If lost uh signal with b throw signal, you know. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 577.04 577.78 Should ha 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 577.05 577.37 Yeah. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 578.58 580.16 A fluorescent signal, yeah. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 580.39 580.91 Mm 'kay. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 585.88 586.34 Yeah, yeah. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 581.48 585.88 Yeah, maybe it should have a light so that we can, we can just recognise where it is. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 585.67 587.9 Exactly, I mean just that's what I'm saying. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 587.9 592.6 I'm just saying throw signal meaning just whether it's a beep or whether a light or 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 587 587.95 May not be beep. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 590.86 593.03 Beep or uh it's a light, maybe it's a light. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 592.25 605.71 And do you think a good c c um clue for that is that it would respond to a clap or it would respond to your voice or it would respond what what should you have to do to make it beep or blink? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 630.03 634.76 it ge has a sensor and it gives out a signal whether that be a light signal or a beep,
IS1009a H00 FIE088 625.75 630.03 In in that moment it has a sensor, i it it gets a certain darkness 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 605.67 609.57 Okay, my my idea is maybe that the minute it's really hidden,
IS1009a H00 FIE088 620.32 625.75 at that moment it's it's like, it's like um, what you call it a light s sensors, you know? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 609.57 616.46 in in other words if it's like in a dark spot, uh meaning you know like a newspaper is on top 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 634.76 637.21 I mean, that we can discuss that later, you know. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 616.46 620.32 a sweater is on top or it it's behind a plant,
IS1009a H03 FIO089 613.29 613.69 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 617.96 618.26 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 625.54 626.23 Okay so 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 627.79 628 Yes. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 628.29 628.66 Okay. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 634.3 637.63 Yeah, probably yeah, probably it's a yeah, yeah. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 638.22 638.66 Yeah. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 638.66 639.18 And uh 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 639.09 641.25 So the light sensor would activate the signal. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 650.78 658.48 Uh I know there are the lamps and stuff, you know, you can clap on and off, but I think they only work to certain degree and 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 642.24 650.78 You know there would be right you have to have some kind of sensor and I I think uh voice or clapping it's not specific enough. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 641.29 642.24 That's right. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 641.8 642.12 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 652.91 653.24 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 653.7 654.09 Yes. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 658.19 661.77 But it could be someplace really obvious and you still wouldn't be able to find it. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 663.98 665.28 Yeah, of course, that didn't 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 664.08 664.8 What with 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 666.89 667.93 Because people are silly. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 665.22 666.89 Well, because you're s because you're silly. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 665.4 666.38 Then, in that case 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 666.11 667.15 I i we can't do it. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 667.7 671.59 Oh yeah well, but then those people we can't help everybody. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 677.77 679.99 you know, well maybe we have to move along, okay. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 668.66 677.77 I mean it could be on well, i if it were like on top of your bookcase and you usually kept it on the coffee table um,
IS1009a H00 FIE088 678.08 683.95 Okay we have uh yeah, we have to move along, but I think we have some good good points to start with here. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 682.07 683.11 Yeah, good point. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 695.45 701.63 The working design, I guess that's the function I. D. uh who is this? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 688.49 692.12 I think you all did you get uh notices on your computer for this? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 701.63 703.98 The industrial designer That's you. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 685.84 688.49 Okay, the next meeting will be in thirty minutes. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 692.12 695.45 Okay so well, you got the notice um uh. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 691.65 692.33 Me yeah. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 693.82 693.97 Yes. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 702.97 703.28 Yeah. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 704.61 707.73 Yeah, it's functional de yeah, exactly, technical. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 706.82 707.46 Okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 707.46 711.13 So, we looking for a working design when we come back. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 710.26 710.7 Yeah. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 711.71 715.68 Uh working design, yeah, it's it's uh mainly technical-functional design. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 714.21 714.54 Then 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 735.94 738.24 And, of course, price. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 741.69 744.65 I mean, the price is given, but, that was 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 734.3 735.94 That would be your idea. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 720.11 724.39 So you have a working design and then a functional design. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 724.39 734.3 And the marketing manager is coming up with some user requirement specification, like friendliness, and what we just discussed in general. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 715.72 720.11 And then the technical funct you are the technical function, so so you are the working design. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 738.24 741.69 That it, that it, that the price is a good price. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 717.25 718.75 Yeah, functional design, and you 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 720.41 720.78 Okay. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 741.37 741.7 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 745.25 749.86 We have to justify that price by having sufficient features to make it sell at that price. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 746.33 746.79 That's right. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 749.44 750.08 That's right. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 757.84 758 Yeah. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 751.38 756.1 And, you know, specifi you you will get specific um instructions for that. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 756.1 757.84 I think that's the end of the show. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 770.87 773.57 Um any questions at this point? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 773.57 775.95 Or uh suggestions? 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 764.72 770.87 So um we have well, we have a twen two two two three minutes. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 777.27 777.82 Mm. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 777.8 787.16 I think basically basically you will get instructions to work with and if you have any questions uh, uh I guess, you can uh 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 782.9 783.2 Okay. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 784.26 784.46 Yeah. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 787.58 791.63 Okay, I think I have enough to think about 'til our next meeting. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 791.63 792.83 How about you people? 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 792.83 793.39 Really? 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 793.39 793.93 Okay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 790.95 791.28 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 792.6 793.95 Yeah, even I have, I think, yeah. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 791.25 792.6 Yeah, even I have. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 792.79 793.13 Yes. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 793.23 793.51 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 794.48 794.68 'Kay. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 795.57 795.88 Okay. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 796.5 797.74 Alright, well uh 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 796.52 797.81 Yeah, so let's see. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 801.94 803.61 And see what we can come up with. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 797.96 801.94 Then uh we see you in about thirty minutes. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 801.89 802.4 Yes. 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 803.39 803.68 Hmm. 
IS1009a H03 FIO089 803.8 804.53 Okay, very good. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 804.08 805.26 Okay. 
IS1009a H01 FIO087 805.26 805.72 Yes. 
IS1009a H00 FIE088 804.79 805.07 Okay? 
IS1009a H02 FIO084 805.49 805.68 Yeah. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 37.32 38.65 Okay, is everybody ready? 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 39.06 39.27 Yeah? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 39.72 42.79 Yeah I'd to just put on my microphone here and I'll be right with you. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 43.16 43.5 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 45.13 45.35 Okay? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 47.17 58.69 Um I take it you all have received instructions as to what you were supposed to do and um 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 55.21 55.44 Mm? 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 55.71 56.11 Yes. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 60.79 67.33 I think the Marketing Manager probably should go first, addressing the needs and desires. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 75.39 77.03 Okay you want me to start right now? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 78.43 79.03 Yeah, mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 79.31 79.98 Okay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 79.98 86.44 Well, could you um put my slides up 'cause I think it might be helpful if uh we looked at the slides at the same time. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 86.28 86.64 Okay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 95.59 97.05 You're participant four. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 98.3 98.86 Yes uh-huh. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 96.82 98.3 I'm participant four I believe. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 100.69 101.13 'Kay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 100.96 103.73 Okay, and now I can uh full screen. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 104.21 104.61 Open. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 106.29 107.53 Uh, okay, okay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 108.47 109.63 There we go. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 109.63 119.58 Okay well I think we have introduced ourselves, so the functional requirements are is is part of my goal but why don't we pass right to the second slide. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 110.39 111.17 And then full screen. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 130.3 136.19 Um I thought that the method I should follow would be gather suggestions from everybody 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 123.34 130.3 Right well um since I'm in charge of trying to figure out what we should put on this thing since I have to try to sell it. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 120.69 123.34 Cause that's where m my discussion starts. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 146.72 150.69 You know you can say anything you want no matter how silly it sounds you know it should run your car 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 136.19 146.72 and th the reason I just put that there like that is that uh in the init in the initial stage I think I should just be open to lots of suggestions. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 150.69 165.31 it should heat up your motor if should um turn on your C. D. whatever you want it to do um and then as we go on what we'll have to do is accept and eliminate these suggestions according to um design and budget feasibility. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 130.02 130.29 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 155.16 155.38 'Kay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 165.62 176.33 So I'll be coming to you um frequently as the Industrial Expert to tell me how hard it's gonna be to add a feature or how expensive it's gonna be or if your time 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 176.33 180.11 if it takes five years to develop this it's just something we can't do. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 208.87 213.22 because if we're gonna sell this thing, I think the best time to sell it is as a Christmas present. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 200.47 208.87 and as I said on the slide there consulting the Industrial Engineer about that and the other thing is timing is really gonna be as important as money,
IS1009b H03 FIO089 197.78 200.47 So that was um what I meant there 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 180.11 189.21 So in the beginning just have a big puddle of things that we anybody can th throw anything in and then just weed things out that can't be done for one reason or another 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 189.21 197.78 and then the things that seem the most attractive that to uh to a customer we'll try to then prioritise those. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 169.39 169.6 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 171.69 172.05 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 173.86 173.98 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 174.57 175.03 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 177.46 178.4 Hmm hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 179.12 179.32 Mm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 182.06 182.36 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 195.35 195.62 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 197.33 197.65 Yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 228.28 234.85 'cause anything that you don't already have out there in September showing it around, isn't gonna sell for Christmas. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 234.85 261.02 Um and then I'll be coming to you as the User Interface person to try to tell me from your point of view what are the most friendly features that we could put on it and try to prior help me with that prioritising of uh of the features and of the the look and the colour and I'll be coming back to you to help weed out those suggestions from that point of view. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 224.06 228.28 So it's gotta be really attractive and it but it's gotta go to market by September,
IS1009b H03 FIO089 222.22 224.06 And take out their wallet and buy it. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 213.64 218.01 Twenty five Euros makes a nice little present, and we want it to be an impulse purchase,
IS1009b H03 FIO089 218.01 222.22 we want somebody to see it and think it's, gee I just gotta have that. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 218.1 218.41 Mm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 232.67 233.02 Yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 250.63 250.89 Okay. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 260.98 261.32 Okay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 290.54 292.06 Okay can we go to the next slide please? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 278.51 290.54 A lot of times the thing that works the best from an engineering point of view isn't the thing that somebody's really just gonna take out their wallet and buy for Christmas for for their child or for their husband or whatever. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 261.31 265.63 So I'll be coming to you for how much is it gonna cost us and how long is it gonna take you 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 271.01 278.51 what what's what's gonna really be what they call a sizzle, 'cause we gotta sell this sizzle. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 265.63 271.01 and I'll be coming to you to tell me what's gonna make somebody take out their wallet you know,
IS1009b H02 FIO084 264.83 265.54 Mm mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 269.25 269.98 What features. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 276.85 277.41 Yes. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 275.7 276.85 S sellable. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 289.01 289.27 Yes. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 294.86 306.25 Alright I I already did a little bit of research after our first meeting where we threw out some ideas and it looks to me that within the budget that we're looking at the uh the whole house idea really isn't gonna be possible. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 343.81 344.59 I have to wind up? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 317.08 329.24 not something like you know whole house control what'll be And then I found on the internet from from my research that some extended electronic entertainment control should be possible. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 335.01 343.81 the stereo set um maybe something else cute like a coffee pot or one other appliance or maybe a lamp. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 329.24 335.01 At the budget that we're looking at and at the price point we're looking at, we should be able to make it work the T. V., the V. C. R. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 306.25 311.75 So I'd like your suggestions to come back to the other slide where I was saying we we could suggest anything. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 311.75 317.08 I'd like the suggestions to be really specific, so that we'll have a list of things we can cross off 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 353.55 362.62 Um the one thing for example something to eliminate maybe that's the teletext, because that's sort of outdated with the internet 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 362.62 370.62 and according to to higher management the it should only control the T. V. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 370.62 381.07 mostly because they feel that it's too comp complex a task to um to to include other things, and they are concerned with the time to market. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 346.86 353.55 Um we have received instruction from higher up that certain things should not be uh considered. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 341.3 346.86 Uh okay, can can I at this point interject um something? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 345.68 346.38 Yeah, sure. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 353.2 353.6 Okay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 361.11 361.46 Okay. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 361.5 361.68 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 374.39 375.82 Complicated, yeah, of course. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 381.27 381.44 Yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 381.32 382.12 Of course, yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 381.85 382.38 Okay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 391.12 395.08 and that the corporate colour and design are being used on the product 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 402.21 407.04 and that there's no mistake that it could be somebody else who is bringing this out. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 395.08 402.21 so that it's easy that that that they can be easily identified as a product of of of the company 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 382.85 391.12 Um and the and the third thing that they wanna make sure um that their that the corporate image is being maintained 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 381.97 382.85 Okay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 407.04 413.53 So I just wanted to interject this here so we're not getting too much off track here with uh with the things we wanna look at. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 413.53 419.95 These were instructions from higher up so we have to eliminate uh these things, so it's only gonna be T. V. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 419.95 425.1 but the one thing maybe that could be um eliminated is the teletext uh idea. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 383.08 384.4 Okay, so that's something 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 404.12 404.34 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 418.2 418.95 Okay so 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 425.4 425.74 Okay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 426.38 427.29 Mm 'kay. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 426.99 427.55 Okay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 477.34 478.73 'Kay can we go to the next slide please? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 460.99 471.6 and then the things about finding it we talked about the a light emitting thing as well as uh maybe a beep 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 471.6 477.34 and I think that those are things after my research that we definitely wanna try to incorporate. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 449 453.88 Um so those are two things that we definitely do wanna address,
IS1009b H03 FIO089 453.88 460.99 uh we wanna s make it as simple as possible, we wanna make it um obvious and intuitive to use 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 437.38 440.93 'Cause a lot of them take too much time to learn how to use 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 428.38 437.38 Um alright now other things that I found out on in my research is that the complaints that people have about the remote controls that are out there now. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 427 428.38 Alright, thanks for that. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 440.93 449 and that was thirty four percent but even more important the thing that we did address in our last meeting that frequently it's lost somewhere in the room. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 479.65 487.37 Okay, so, my personal preferences in this um project are really have to concentrate on the sizzle. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 498.02 501.07 If somebody says, oh I'll come back and get it next week you're dead. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 502.5 509.83 You've gotta make it attractive enough so they buy it now now now w now is a big word in in my book for selling this thing. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 501.07 502.5 They're never gonna come back and buy it. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 491.69 498.02 Uh because once there's no be-back, well in sales they always say you know, be-backs don't come back. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 487.37 491.69 That is the selling point, the thing that's gonna make it an impulse purchase. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 528.95 535.66 So we've gotta concentrate on the features that help you find it, and I've already said this several times but I put it down in writing here 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 556.96 558.95 Okay that's uh about it for me right now. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 539.11 544.76 So it has to have enough value that when somebody looks at it they say, uh twenty five Euros I'm not gonna take that. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 549.21 556.96 Um and then maybe a motto, like we put fashion in electronics might be something we can use in our marketing campaign. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 544.76 549.21 Has to be so great that they're gonna say, uh twenty five Euros isn't much. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 518.32 526.03 We have to have as few buttons as possible, because more buttons is more confusion, so that's why I'm saying, simplicity is good. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 510.54 518.32 And, in order to make it really sellable we've gotta shorten the learning curve, make sure it's really intuitive and easy to use. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 526.03 528.95 Finding it's important, obviously you can't use it if you can't find it. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 535.66 539.11 it should be an attractive impulse purchase at twenty five Euros. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 556.58 556.82 Yeah. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 559.53 560.07 Okay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 563.03 564.6 And uh 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 574.49 574.79 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 571.57 572.29 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 565.99 571.57 who would be next, uh, I guess that would be you. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 572.29 574.49 You want me to get your slide show up? 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 571.19 571.88 Yeah 'kay. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 574.54 574.98 Thank you. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 573.35 574.54 Yeah yeah sure. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 583.19 583.66 Number two. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 580.82 583.19 And you are number three? 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 582.47 583.79 Number two, yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 590.92 591.58 Yeah exactly. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 591.62 592.16 Okay. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 593.76 595.94 Uh can you make it uh full screen please? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 594.24 594.66 Okay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 595.82 596.14 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 598.28 598.62 Yep. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 598.41 601.25 No, it's like a well you you have to press here. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 605.21 605.92 The thir third. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 602.45 605.21 The cup cup shape here? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 604.54 605.26 Yeah yeah, uh-huh. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 607.71 609.94 Yeah exactly. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 609.94 613.73 Uh so today I'm going to talk about the working design of the remote controller. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 613.73 616.44 Um can you go to the next sli slide please? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 607.98 608.71 There, mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 613.29 613.63 Okay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 616.32 616.63 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 662.93 666.01 like a T. V. or a air conditioner, something like that so. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 639.41 662.93 It should be a battery because uh uh remote controller should be like you you you should take it t to wherever you want and then um uh th this integrated circuitry takes energy from the power source and whatever like if you press a button it's like a input for the remote controller and it takes the input and it it transforms into a infro infrared bits and it sends it into the device,
IS1009b H02 FIO084 625.92 639.41 It takes the power from a battery say a battery it it can be a elec an electric supply like you have to uh like uh switch connec connect connect your remote controller to uh power supply from the you know electricity or something like that. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 618.32 625.92 The metal is like uh in a remote controller you have a chip integrated circuit which is like a brain of the remote controller. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 645.78 646.16 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 666.43 670.27 Uh a remote controller is specifically designed to a single device. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 701.47 707.57 and the T. V. it should translate that into like change the channel or something like that 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 686.29 701.47 It should re re recognise the uh waves which are coming from the remote controller and it should take the action like if you press a button channel or something like that then uh the remote uh remote controller will send a send a se send a signal 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 707.57 716 change the volume control and uh so uh I think it's hard to design a remote controller for multiple uh devices. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 670.27 686.29 If you want to design it for multiple devices then you should make all the devices compatible with the frequency like uh th the remote controller it sends some bits some uh waves like with a particular frequency the device should know what the frequency is. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 699.77 700.61 Signal. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 703.62 704.2 Receive. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 707.08 707.38 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 708.64 708.93 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 715.86 716.43 Multi-purpose. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 716.5 722.92 Yeah well that's already been eliminated by management, so we're off the hook. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 716.92 722.5 Yo and it's yeah but it's so. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 718.51 719.05 Uh yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 723.52 724.03 Um. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 723.57 723.92 Yep. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 738.67 760.4 you want to change the channel you want to control the volume you you want to uh mute uh mute the uh T. V. or you want to have a child lock or you want to do some operations there's a there should be some device to tell what to do to the uh in uh integrated circuit so that the integrated circuit can s send the signals and T. V. can perform the actions. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 736.53 738.67 So uh you can control whatever you want 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 726.28 736.53 So uh user interface controls the chip and accordingly the messages like there should be a user user in interface like you know switch pad or something like that buttons should be there. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 753.99 754.59 Mm okay. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 761.11 763.15 So can you go to the next slide please? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 762.34 762.95 Okay. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 777.21 794.12 it's like el the text or buttons which uh which are there on the uh remote controller they those we can make uh um like fluorescent uh they'll be like light emitting if it is dark so that you can find your remote controller if it is dark. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 763.82 777.21 So I I just would like to uh add some extra features to the remote controller um I think these are the very simple features and uh they don't take much uh uh much of the um um investment also 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 768.59 769.11 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 787.47 787.8 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 795.06 812.11 And ther there should be a beep if many buttons are pressed if suppose a child is playing with the remote controller and a and she she or he is pressing the buttons all at the time then there should be a beep saying that it's this this is not a a you know a a action 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 815.15 816.9 And there should be a child lock 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 840.8 842.45 yeah, yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 842.45 853.64 And uh different shapes that we can do like uh we can have you know a all animals shapes or you know comfortable uh whi which can fit into your hands and um so that uh 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 831.82 840.8 If make it useable for more than one device it's a it's hard but I think it's possible but it uh yeah yeah yeah so it's it's okay,
IS1009b H02 FIO084 816.9 831.82 like uh uh you should be able to lock your remote controller so that uh um whatever buttons are pressed by a child they can't be like y you i you if you have ki kids and all then they'll be pl playing with the remote controllers so can lock the remote controller. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 812.11 815.15 there can be no action taking to that so. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 835.85 841.94 Yeah well yeah well that has been e that has been eliminated, so that's that's unfortunately a moot point now. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 841.94 842.36 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 837.1 839.26 Well we already eliminated that. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 838.76 839.27 Eliminated. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 853 857 Now that's good from a marketing point of view, the fun the fun shape. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 859.82 861.72 To d the shape is uh 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 857 859.82 And that you you say that won't add too much to the budget? 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 854.88 858.06 Yeah, yeah, yeah and colours also, different colours, and 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 857 857.44 Yeah I 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 857.27 857.77 Mm-hmm colours. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 860.09 865.77 No no no, it won't uh I don't think it will be like, you can have you know for uh if you want ther there to be more 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 864.37 867.48 It just build a mould basically and uh you know. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 866.83 869.26 It's it's just a s shape so it doesn't matter. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 866.27 866.83 Yeah yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 867.14 868.06 Yes exactly. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 869.28 874.68 As the budget we're looking at if you build one mould I don't think that's going to make a big difference whether it's gonna be square or 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 871.8 872.32 Yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 875.57 882.67 Do you think there's any chance of um having ser in having basically the same machine with the same buttons but maybe several different shapes? 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 883 885.7 Yeah that is also possible I uh yeah I I yeah. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 883.57 884.05 Oh yes. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 884.16 885.04 Is that gonna be a possible? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 885.04 886.82 'Cause that might help with the marketing. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 884.66 885.05 Yes. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 885.31 891.46 I think I think we will have to look at the budget on that but I think in principle that that would be that would be kind of fun 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 891.46 891.83 you know. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 887.13 887.92 Yeah that will be 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 891.2 892.05 Yeah yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 891.44 903.28 Because we had something sort of sexy for adults and we could have something sort of silly for children or a little animal shape or in a or a little elephant so they can remember where it is. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 892.83 893.09 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 894.05 894.33 Yeah. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 895.49 896.61 Silly for children. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 896.35 898.84 Yeah, for children, yeah exactly. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 898.84 900.28 Yeah, that's what, yeah. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 897.33 898.75 Like an animal or 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 898.13 899.69 Like a doll, or 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 899.65 900.04 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 902.1 903.71 Yeah, exactly. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 903.71 904.4 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 917.48 925.61 so I think uh we need to make some buttons which are which are like um uh f in uh in intended for two or three operations,
IS1009b H02 FIO084 911.06 913.92 If there are more buttons then it will be more complicated. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 904.4 911.06 And and the butto buttons also I think if you want to have more features in your remote controller then there should be more buttons. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 932.99 939.01 So if you want to have less buttons we can have that option but I think it will complicate the matter more I think so. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 925.61 932.99 like if you press one button in one mode then it will change the channel, if you press the other button in another mode it will change the colour. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 913.92 917.48 If you have less features then your remote controller won't be attractive 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 902.65 903.49 Yes. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 934.25 934.97 Mm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 963.16 966.72 changing modes is nothing for us, but people who 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 939.04 949.3 I think I think that that's something that we'll have to discuss um with the User Interface person because I think there's a lot of argument to be made for one button for one feature. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 957.05 963.16 The changing modes was something I mean you and I, all f all four of us we work with computers all the time,
IS1009b H03 FIO089 938.61 939.04 Well 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 949.3 957.05 Because I think one of the things were complaining about in my what I found out in my research is when they complained about how hard it is to learn a new one. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 941.96 943.11 Yep, yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 942 942.48 Yes. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 956.55 956.91 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 958.79 960.45 Yeah, it's like you know yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 961.79 962.01 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 962.56 963.37 Yeah, yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 963.2 963.79 Okay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 969.35 978.75 and and it's a small button and and it they don't press it exactly you know something else happens n not their favourite channel comes up but something else and they're very frustrated you know. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 966.71 969.35 Yeah, a little elderly, a little arthritic hand you know 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 968.45 969.54 N and 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 968.98 969.58 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 971.7 972.23 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 976.47 977.8 Yeah, yes. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 976.99 977.54 Something else. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 985.2 991.18 So um maybe having buttons be various shapes might be a help too. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1000.76 1002.51 But we'll get to that with you. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 977.52 985.2 And that's and that's the kind of thing people learn by feel, and um you don't feel the mode change. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 991.18 1000.76 You know, like the a triangle is for the volume and a square is for changing channels, so that people can uh develop a tactile sense of it. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 984.5 985.22 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 981.76 984.5 Yeah, yeah you don't us yeah yeah, usually. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 990.02 992.08 Yeah shapes also, different shapes. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 992.08 992.9 Yeah that will 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 993.71 994.06 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 996.23 996.87 Channels. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 996.41 996.77 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 998.44 998.73 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1000.79 1006.46 Yeah, yeah, and also text should be very clear so that there there won't be any ambiguities and uh 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1000.99 1001.91 Mm, mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1002.09 1002.43 Yes. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1005.87 1006.76 That's right, yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1006.76 1007.66 Now that's a good point. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1007.66 1007.88 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1007.06 1007.88 So yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1007.39 1007.74 Yes. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1008.93 1022.01 And uh display clock i if you want more features then we can display a clock it I I don't think it will take any money extra money because anyway we have an integrated circuit I think we can just definitely fit that feature into the circuit so it's 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1021.43 1029.05 Yeah, that's that's a good that's a good one, because the clock would be really friendly, and and when is your favourite show coming on and 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1022.84 1024.86 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1024.86 1025.29 Yes. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1023.13 1024.4 Yeah, and we display a clock. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1023.34 1023.75 Mm yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1025.61 1025.91 Yeah. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1026.92 1028.08 Yes. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1028.08 1031.54 Yeah you're sitting there already or maybe you have no other uh 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1027.53 1031.19 Yeah, and then you can just see your remote controller yeah yeah yeah so 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1028.08 1029.4 Yes. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1030.84 1032.93 Yeah, and a lot of time there's not a clock on the screen 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1035.59 1037.74 Yeah that's that's good, the clock is good. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1037.74 1038.1 Okay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1032.93 1035.59 and you have to go somewhere but you just wanna look at the news for a minute. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1033.16 1033.4 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1058.51 1062.65 then the remote controller should automatically have a b s light. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1050.3 1058.51 Like uh we can have a bulb like whenever we are operating a remote controller or uh whenever the T. V. is on suppose 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1048.8 1050.3 And uh bulbs. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1040.56 1048.8 Uh components uh the main components we need for uh it ha like buttons and uh underneath that there should be switch. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1038.11 1040.56 Uh can you go to the next slide please? 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1037.1 1038.11 Yeah. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1037.57 1039.39 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1058.33 1058.74 Hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1063.18 1063.51 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1067.96 1074.56 not from through a remote remote controller and you you lost your remote controller maybe you can find with the light. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1063.84 1067.96 Then it will be like if you switch on your T. V. through anoth another source 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1074.56 1075.78 Maybe we can have that. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1075.78 1078.8 Whenever the T. V. is on, remote controller will have a light. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1073.83 1074.15 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1079.18 1079.53 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1082.77 1085.76 Um this is like uh when it is dark. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1080.2 1082.77 And then uh infrared bulbs. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1082.71 1083.06 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1085.56 1086.34 Yeah, mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1086.32 1086.57 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1095.21 1100.74 and wires connecting all chips, which is uh lights, everything, so there should be wires. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1086.68 1091.43 And battery, there should be a battery for power supply, and a chip 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1091.43 1095.21 chip which is like a brain to the remote controller which does all the operations,
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1090.23 1090.6 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1093 1093.27 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1099.19 1099.43 Yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1099.88 1100.29 Okay. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1111.83 1112.03 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1106.52 1111.83 you know different shapes or whatever it is there should be a case to put to give a shape. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1101.67 1106.52 And uh uh of course there should be a case where we can keep all the things and 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1111.84 1112.46 Yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1110.68 1111.84 To keep the remote? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1113.08 1113.52 Case. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1115.19 1116.49 A holder remote holder. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1114.1 1115.19 A case holder. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1115.09 1115.79 Yeah, holder. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1116.13 1117.38 Holder, yeah, mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1120.17 1121.92 Um uh can you move onto the next slide. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1122.86 1124.64 Um next sli slide please. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1126.11 1138.5 Um I have referred the site uh the homepage of the um our website, uh from where I have uh uh I got s few points. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1139.48 1139.8 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1140.21 1141.47 That's it, that's it from me now. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1141.76 1142.16 Okay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1147.15 1150.75 So it um we should visit this site and have a look at uh what's up there? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1150.75 1151.46 Or 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1149.75 1151.39 Um. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1151.61 1152.74 Well, you don't have to. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1152.75 1153.7 Uh it's not like that 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1153.7 1161.72 I have referred the page to get new ideas or like what can be the working design to how it works and all and so and so. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1157.46 1157.86 Okay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1162.05 1163.75 So it might be helpful if we had a look at that. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1161.28 1162.05 Okay. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1164.5 1165.14 Yeah if you want. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1165.4 1166.34 Okay, thank you. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1165.68 1166.46 Yeah, it's okay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1172.84 1176.07 Could you go back to that slide where she had that uh s slide up Betsy? 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1176.36 1179.26 Uh, it's actually there now, there on the screen. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1179.44 1179.79 This one? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1180.11 1181.1 Yeah, okay, thank you. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1197.41 1199.18 And Francine? 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1199.03 1199.72 Participant two. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1200.4 1201.6 You are number two? 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1201.07 1202.08 Yes. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1202.08 1202.73 No no, I'm three. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1203.06 1203.41 You're three. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1224.22 1226.97 Yeah can you please go onto the next slide? 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1214.42 1224.22 As uh User Interface Designer I did a little research to find out what are the features which a user would like to have on their remote. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1211.46 1213.71 Yes yes yes. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1210.36 1211.46 I can make it full? 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1213.71 1214.42 Okay. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1226.97 1238.22 So I found out that uh but uh the main purpose of a remote is to uh f control the function of a television at a far off distance at remote distance. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1210.71 1212.45 Would you want it full full screen? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1213.18 1213.55 Okay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1212.45 1213.18 Mm-hmm? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1223.66 1224 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1225.44 1225.78 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1239.88 1240.81 Now for that 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1240.81 1253.32 uh a remote controller should have a switch on off button by which a user can sit anywhere in the room in front of the T. V. and he can control the functionalities different functionalities of the T. V. . 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1253.32 1267.93 There should be a signal uh something like a radio wave or a infrared light or a LED which can be used to change the different functionalities in the television if the user wants to uh change the channels or increase the volume he can change it. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1247.84 1248.08 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1268.25 1268.57 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1269.78 1279.65 Now there should be some timer to set for viewing a particular a particular programme or switching on and off a uh a particular programme according to the user choice. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1279.01 1281.11 On the on on the remote. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1281.11 1281.68 Yeah, mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1281.51 1281.95 Yes. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1280.74 1281.51 Yes. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1313.16 1321.53 And uh the uh the uh and the one of the feature a user would like to have is the compactness of the co remote. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1289.51 1293.89 and the T. V. will automatically it will switch on at that particular time. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1283.88 1289.51 So if if he want to view a particular programme at say nine o'clock he can set the time 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1306.58 1313.16 then the parents can lock that particular channel so that the ch children cannot view that channel. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1293.89 1306.58 So he can use that kind of uh uh properties of features and then there should be a child lock system if a particular channel is not to be viewed by a particular uh for a certain age 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1286.43 1286.64 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1287.71 1288.11 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1289.44 1289.65 Right. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1293.07 1293.44 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1302.86 1303.25 Yes. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1304.85 1305.98 By your child, mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1311.53 1311.82 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1312.63 1313.07 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1322.64 1323.12 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1323.11 1323.49 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1323.83 1333.47 Uh t the remote should be compact and it should ha it should have as many buttons as possible for controlling different functionalities of the T. V. television. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1333.47 1342.09 And um uh as uh uh this is my personal preference that it should be in the shape of a T. in alphabet for more compactability. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1342.32 1342.7 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1348.16 1359.89 like uh the material which which which is used for remotes should be human friendly it should not cause any skin disease or something some al allergy to either children or to um ad adult person. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1359.89 1371.24 And it should have an uh it can have an alarm clock a a person if some if somebody wants to get up at around eight eight P. M. then he can set the time and it can be used as an alarm clock 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1371.24 1375.23 and I don't think it will cost much to set an alarm clock inside a remote. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1343.53 1348.16 And uh and uh and it is one more point which I noted it down 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1356.24 1356.53 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1358.24 1358.86 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1358.86 1359.25 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1358.33 1358.85 Mm, 'kay. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1366.95 1367.25 Mm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1371.17 1371.47 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1374.91 1376.42 Yeah, sure. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1376.42 1378.9 If there is a clock then there can be a alarm clock. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1376.1 1376.9 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1378.02 1380.3 And an alarm clock, yeah that should that should be okay. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1378.3 1382.32 Yes, and as John Reece said the buttons can be 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1391.84 1397.73 So in even in the dark the user can know what buttons to use to switch on a particular channel. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1382.32 1391.84 uh can me we can use the fluorescence to light up the buttons so different uh buttons will glow differently. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1399.14 1408.86 And uh uh the design of the uh um remote should be in such a way that there should not be any sharp projections so that if a child plays with a remote 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1408.86 1411.38 he uh he should not be harmed in any way. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1408.89 1409.25 Hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1424.12 1434.43 there are remotes which use the infrared for controlling the different functionalities, there are remotes which use the radio waves to control the functions and there are uh 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1415.28 1424.12 And findings, uh I found out uh y um on different sites that uh there are different remotes which can be used,
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1436.08 1445.13 So uh there you have different uh types of remotes for different light source which are used which can be used for controlling the different functionalities of a television. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1453.25 1454.07 Next slide. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1461.51 1462.01 Not 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1462.01 1471.93 uh no uh like it can it can be used as a T. V. control as plus an alarm clock to set an alarm a timing and it should have a child lock 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1471.93 1479.88 and then to save electricity uh there should not be uh much s move uh lots of circuits and all that. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1489.61 1492.28 so that nobody else comes later and use it. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1456.32 1461.51 And these are my few personal preferences like it can be used for a multipurpose use. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1479.88 1489.61 And if a person if if if parents wants the television to be switched off by ten o'clock then it should be switched off ten o at ten o'clock automatically 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1491.24 1496.78 It's like a t okay, it's like a timer it's like a lock to the television. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1493.75 1495.15 Timer, yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1494.32 1495.47 Timer. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1495.47 1497.71 Yeah and then you can use a timer as well. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1499.36 1499.76 Yes. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1501.48 1501.98 Yeah that's it. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1502.88 1506.02 Uh okay, now I have 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1550.7 1557.34 And uh what function, working design, how how does it work. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1542.75 1550.7 However uh the decision we have to take in this meeting is who is our target group. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1533.84 1542.75 On my slide show basically we already we have already done the agenda, and uh on the closing uh basically there will be lunch break and all that. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1557.34 1560.64 So these are the two things we should come up wit with. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1560.64 1566.54 So uh the first thing is pro maybe a little easier on uh who is our target group. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1550.28 1550.95 Okay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1568.21 1568.83 Um. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1570.93 1572.63 I guess in many ways everybody. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1574.48 1576.21 Everybody who has a T. V. . 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1574.82 1576.85 Mm, T. V., yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1576.57 1577.92 T. V. television we was. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1583.14 1584.96 There are a few but in general not. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1577.98 1583.14 Yeah, and I think today there are probably not many people who don't have a T. V. . 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1581.7 1583.48 Don't T. V., yeah. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1595.2 1605.19 We have we have earlier it was mentioned about um for example elderly people who have limited function with their fingers and hands 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1624.55 1632.23 I mean that's a question um whether that's important that children can really use it or not. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1586.73 1595.2 Now, talking about the target group which is in a sense everybody, but I think within the target group we have subgroups. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1605.19 1609.75 so I think that's uh one group that's certainly important. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1618.45 1624.55 And uh I don't know how much we want to cater to children's use. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1609.75 1618.45 Um then we have just the nervous people who can never press a little button on anything um unless it's really very clear. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1601.54 1601.9 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1604.76 1605.06 Hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1617.66 1617.96 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1632.09 1632.3 Mm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1634.47 1637.14 So this these are just some thoughts I have on it 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1653.67 1662.25 whether that different shape also includes maybe different uh buttons uh for different groups. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1637.14 1653.67 and um I dunno what you feel about whether we can just say we have one target group and for this one target group we're gonna design this one thing or whether we're looking at what we like we we talking about different shapes 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1637.07 1637.63 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1647.59 1647.74 Yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1653.08 1653.51 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1658.74 1659.03 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1658.95 1659.33 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1667.37 1680.94 So if you've designed something that's very attractive to children um the mummy please mummy please um you know we want it now we wanna go to the store and see it um that has uh a lot of marketing pull. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1662.76 1667.37 Well you know there's the old motto, children under six never shop alone. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1666.88 1667.27 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1678.76 1688.47 That has a lot of that has a lot of appeal but I think uh I'm I'm talking about the functionality now on it whether we're looking at different groups. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1688.47 1693.22 I think the children issue can be addressed with the shape and with colours. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1693.22 1701.78 You know, like you make it nice and pink, fluorescent, banana colour or whatever you know yeah, for example you know. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1701.78 1704.67 But the question is really, who is our target group. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1681.65 1681.7 Mm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1691.42 1691.81 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1692.74 1693.14 That's right. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1692.92 1693.23 Yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1692.95 1693.74 Different colours. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1696.48 1696.91 Yes. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1697.62 1699.8 You can make a banana shaped one. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1699.07 1699.42 Yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1701.2 1701.59 Mm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1705.2 1705.71 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1706.23 1708.67 Do we look at one target group? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1709.84 1720.9 And with the twenty five Euros you know can we can we afford to have uh I'm asking the technical people here whether um to look at 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1722.97 1729.66 sort of subgroups with maybe different buttons for each group how much would that throw us 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1730.74 1734.9 out of the cost we are supposed to respect? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1734.63 1734.97 Mm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1733.47 1734.63 Respect. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1735.87 1736.96 Okay. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1736.96 1757.37 No uh generally we can we can design a remote which is mainly for people with uh f age from ten to um forty and and then we can add on uh specific functional buttons for children as well as the elderly people or the people wit with who have nervous problems 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1757.37 1757.77 yes. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1747.14 1747.51 Right. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1755.38 1756.28 With with 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1757.29 1757.65 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1764.17 1764.45 yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1757.67 1764.17 We can design different remotes for different people, like for aged people there will be big buttons and you know. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1762.98 1763.99 Well that's that's 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1763 1770.29 But in a family in a family there will be a aged person, children and a middle aged but they cannot buy three different remotes. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1770.29 1776.25 They would like to buy just one and um just one which can be used all the three uh 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1766.66 1768.09 Children and everybody, yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1777.28 1790.2 but specifically if y if like elderly people want big buttons then you can't really make a bi big remote controller so maybe specifically you can design a big con remote controller for elderly and for children 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1775.78 1777.28 Yeah of course that we can do 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1790.2 1791.23 like in a different you know. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1791.32 1793.23 That's not really gonna change much, is it? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1790.07 1791.32 What about the electronics? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1791.56 1792.08 Yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1792.21 1793.23 Cost effective. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1792.95 1794.46 No, it it doesn't cost, yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1794.06 1796.88 That that w that won't change much, will it uh? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1794.14 1795.02 No 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1797.28 1798.72 Doesn't doesn't doesn't matter. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1796.42 1797.28 Yeah. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1797.85 1803.8 The the quest the question to be addressed here is only who is the target group and how will it function,
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1822.18 1824.31 I mean the basic design I understand will be the same 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1812.72 1822.18 The question is only whether our budget will allow to have more than one design in a sense. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1824.31 1834.28 but the question is how much will that set us back if let's say uh forty percent we make large buttons and the rest we make regular buttons for example. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1803.8 1812.72 and I think the how will it function is probably the question of the buttons you know, within the target group or subgroups. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1798.08 1799.11 I d I wouldn't think so. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1803.33 1803.73 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1809.47 1809.8 Yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1821.76 1822.11 Yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1832.06 1832.46 Okay. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1832.99 1833.3 Yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1834.47 1834.81 Yeah. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1835.33 1843.53 So that remains to s to be seen but uh the target group as a whole is is basically everybody with a T. V. . 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1852.16 1856.58 or would we have to use the same electronics and make three different shapes? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1861.2 1865.75 And in that case we could probabl moulded plastic isn't all that expensive is it? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1856.58 1861.2 Um the same electronics and basically all that's gonna be different is the plastic case. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1865.75 1867.54 Um you as an industrial person? 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1843.62 1852.16 That's right, and can we can we is it even feasible to make one one remote control with something for everyone 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1844.23 1844.54 Yes. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1855.53 1857.47 Yeah, well that's that's the question. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1859.47 1860.82 Hmm hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1866.14 1866.61 Uh no. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1869.47 1870.15 It's not. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1866.61 1869.47 Mm, I I I don't think no. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1900.4 1903.71 And then if people really want more colours they can buy it separately. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1878.16 1884.77 so you can have a striped one or you can have a fluorescent blue one, or whatever, and maybe something like that 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1868.47 1874.26 Well maybe there's there's an idea you know t the new for example new portable phones? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1884.77 1900.4 that in each package you know you have you you have you have for example uh you have let's say a fluorescent blue on it but then you have uh another colour or stripe whatever that already comes in a package. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1874.26 1878.16 They have like removable plastic cases,
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1873.63 1874.03 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1877.89 1878.21 Yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1882.22 1882.55 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1882.63 1882.97 Okay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1887.25 1888.8 Well there's a real idea yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1894.73 1895.05 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1899.66 1899.95 Hmm. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1900.42 1900.67 Yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1904.39 1904.7 Right. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1904.62 1911.33 Yeah, like for mobile phones we have uh different you know covers, like designs and all so that w we can have that. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1905.07 1906.5 You know, yes. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1905.21 1905.7 Um 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1908.64 1909.09 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1909.04 1909.29 Yes. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1909.82 1916.94 and but like if if then everybody is is is tired of the fluorescent blue and of the striped or whatever they have as another one in the package 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1916.94 1926.96 then they can go to the store and for a few uh Francs or Euros whatever they can buy an alternate package with another two colours in it you know for example you know. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1909.27 1909.82 That's right 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1910.56 1911.12 Uh yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1919.19 1919.42 Yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1922.28 1923.22 An alternate package. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1926.71 1927.25 Okay. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1926.34 1926.71 Yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1927.75 1945.36 But uh yeah I I have a doubt like will it be cost wise effective if we if we design a remote having all the uh different features for different people or designing three different um remotes for three different categories of people. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1945.49 1961.11 Well I think I think the idea here is to uh to to d design one remote and what the only change is gonna be um the funct d t yeah uh the functional functional cosmetics if you want to put it that way 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1961.11 1970.66 um having maybe larger buttons or buttons that light up or buttons that are slightly differently shaped for people uh either for children um 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1945.88 1946.68 Yeah, but uh 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1946.15 1948.41 Well I think we can only aff, yeah. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1949.7 1950.09 Okay. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1950.04 1950.47 Yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1954.03 1954.73 Cosmetic. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1955.75 1956.59 Of th okay. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1959.47 1959.98 Okay. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1960.82 1961.16 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1972.87 1975.56 Five minutes that was I guess tha that's the old message. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1977.56 1979.05 Warning, finish meeting now. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1978.28 1979.44 Finish meeting now. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1979.44 1982.41 Um um. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1985.06 1989.18 Well we may have to come back to one or two of these points at our next meeting but um 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1986.68 1989.31 Yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 1989.31 1991.44 If we do some more research, maybe we. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1988.92 1994.52 But I think I I think to sum it up the target group is basically everybody. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 1994.52 2000.23 If money permits we can address some features for some subgroups within that. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 1999.16 1999.45 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 1999.39 2000.79 Okay, mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 2000.29 2007.53 Hmm yeah, I think maybe seventy percent is a unique uh uh remote controller and thirty percent is yeah it's sort of like yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 2001.14 2002.01 Okay but we have to l 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 2001.45 2002.47 Do we agree, do we? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 2004.74 2010.28 Do we agree on on that in principle, like money will tell whether we will be able to do that or not. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 2008.25 2009.91 Yeah, yeah, of course, yeah. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 2010.29 2011.59 Okay, fair enough. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 2010.48 2010.93 Yes. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 2011.26 2012.07 Okay? 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 2012.07 2014.47 So now I understand it's lunch break. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 2011.99 2012.19 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 2015.48 2016.31 And um. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 2017.78 2019.22 So that's what we will do. 
IS1009b H03 FIO089 2019.24 2019.68 Okay. 
IS1009b H01 FIO087 2020.18 2020.44 Okay. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 2022.2 2023.24 So hank you very much. 
IS1009b H02 FIO084 2022.8 2023.26 Thank you. 
IS1009b H00 FIE088 2024.39 2026.9 And we'll see you after lunch. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 40.24 40.69 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 42.16 42.99 Hello everyone. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 43.25 43.42 Hi. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 43.37 43.8 Hi. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 43.77 44.09 Hi. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 44.79 47.18 Um how uh how we doing? 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 48.29 48.77 Yeah, good. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 56.25 68.7 Um in the last meeting uh the marketing manager had presented uh her method of working, meaning gathering i suggestions 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 49.27 56.25 Uh first we going uh over the minutes of the last meeting, more or less. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 55.6 55.97 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 69.97 79.04 from everyone to see how she best could market uh this this product at the within the budget uh that was given. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 81.38 88.2 Uh in general the idea is that it should be something that is not difficult to use. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 89.75 94.57 Um it's also an item that people lose a lot. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 98.14 100.97 And, of course, it should be something 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 94.57 98.14 So we should address that. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 101.96 104.16 s s that is very simple to use. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 113.43 116.76 or like she says put some sizzle into it in one way or another 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 105.56 113.43 In addition to that to make it sell, of course, uh the marketing manager w wishes that it be very attractive 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 123.21 130.04 that's a very important fact, 'cause um if they say, well, I go home and think about it, that won't work. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 117.77 123.21 so that the people are buying it now because, in particular with smaller items,
IS1009c H00 FIE088 130.79 137.5 Um also mentioned was it should be uh it should have a very short learning curve. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 138.68 143.15 And maybe it could be sold by using a slogan. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 144.08 144.21 Hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 144.86 151.56 Our technical manager has then said that she feels it should have a chip 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 153.03 160.34 that has infra-red bits and it has an interface controls w interface that controls the chip. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 161.41 166.36 Therefore, messages uh will be controlled in the same manner. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 170.55 172.65 If too many buttons are pressed, 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 166.36 170.55 There should be extra features like lid buttons, maybe a beep. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 173.85 183.87 mm uh uh child lock um and uh maybe a display clock so that people could um 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 188.18 191.44 Also mentioned was uh maybe different shapes. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 184.93 188.18 you could see the time, you know, what show they want to watch. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 193.38 203.55 So the components of the thing should be button, bulbs, infra infra-red bulbs, battery, chips, wires, and maybe some kind of a holder 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 204.68 208.54 uh for the for the uh item. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 210.26 222.13 Francino who is our um interface designer um uh has mentioned that the that it,
IS1009c H00 FIE088 222.13 228.56 of course, should have an on-off button, and also has mentioned an interesting feature that it should have maybe a channel lock. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 213.74 214.88 Interface designer. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 240.93 243.26 And maybe have an anar alarm-clock. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 235.61 236.83 It should be compact. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 230.09 235.61 Particularly with maybe small children that they couldn't uh watch a channel that is undesirable. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 236.83 240.93 Her personal favourite was it should be T-shaped. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 243.26 247.94 And the material should possibly be not of non-allergic nature. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 250.22 256.99 Uh the different systems uh that exist are infra-red or radio-waves. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 258.04 264.8 Uh maybe it should have uh electri electrici electricity saving feature. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 265.83 277.22 And even possibly a timer to so that people can program their favourite uh uh program on th right from the remote. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 277.31 277.82 Yes. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 284.52 285.08 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 279.08 284.52 Uh are we all in agreement that that's about what we discussed last time? 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 284.08 284.29 Yeah. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 284.27 284.56 Yes. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 285.99 286.19 Yeah. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 284.68 285.99 Yeah, I think that pretty much is it. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 286.19 286.62 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 286.59 290.94 Okay, then we I'm looking for three presentations. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 290.94 299.75 And uh I don't know whether the order matters much uh, I don't I don't think so, so whoever w wants Yeah, okay. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 297.33 299.26 Okay, I can start first. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 299.97 300.43 Okay. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 305.45 306.74 Now my slide, please. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 307.33 309.2 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 306.1 307.33 Okay, your slides. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 314.19 315.52 Oh, come on, close already. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 321.45 323.61 And that's number two, right? 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 323.83 324.1 Three. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 324.58 324.83 Three. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 325.8 326.67 Participant three. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 328.02 328.41 Yes. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 335.7 336 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 337.53 337.75 Okay. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 341.96 347.11 how the remote looks like so that it is sellable, it is attractive to customers. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 337.56 341.96 Now as an interface designer, I would give more emphasis on the interface,
IS1009c H01 FIO087 349.04 350.03 Next, please. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 351.7 356.89 Now the function of a remote is to send messages to the television. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 356.89 367.77 This messages could be uh switch on-off message or switch to next channel message or swapping the channels or switching onto a particular channel,
IS1009c H01 FIO087 367.77 371.25 like you can have the numbers one, two, three, four, up to nine. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 351.32 351.7 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 373.38 373.92 Nine what? 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 373.92 376.33 Nine channel uh switches? 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 377.33 377.69 Pardon me? 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 379.11 379.95 Is Yeah. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 379.95 381 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 377.96 379.11 Nine channel switches? 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 381 381.29 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 379.14 380.91 Yes, nine numbers. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 382.97 393.13 And then you have swapping of uh button by which using which you can swap the channels if you don't want to see the third channel you can swap it to the fourth channel or vice versa. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 386.19 386.65 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 395.8 406.85 Then it should have a next button, and next button channel by which you can keep on uh v uh mm eh scrolling the channels one by one. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 406.85 407.93 Next slide, please. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 402.87 404.07 Going to the nex next. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 402.95 403.4 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 405.29 405.61 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 408.02 408.35 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 410.4 415.93 Then you should have a button which should which ca which can be used for increasing or decreasing the volume. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 416.14 416.57 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 418.1 424.59 Then, there should be a button which can give subtitles for a particular program which is going on a television. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 424.59 430.76 For example, if you are watching a French program and you would like to have a subtitles in English 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 430.76 439.69 then there should be a channel which can trigger this mechanism in the television so that the user can see uh the the subtitles on the screen. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 430.74 431.07 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 447.67 453.03 colour of the picture, the contrast, sharpness, brightness of the picture. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 441.93 447.67 Then there should d uh there should be some buttons which can control features like the colour,
IS1009c H01 FIO087 456.77 458.73 Now there should be a memory switch. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 473.01 482.36 but he he can reduce the sound, he can bring the volume down and he can watch he can uh while talking he can watch the T. V. . 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 482.36 488.84 Now the most important feature I would like to have in my remote would be the speech recognition feature. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 462.72 464.72 There should be a mute button. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 464.72 473.01 Suddenly if if if uh uh viewer he gets a telephone call, and if he want he doesn't want to switch off the uh T. V. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 490.45 495.72 It's an integrated progra programmable sample sensor speaker unit. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 498.52 507.09 So a remote can be th can be uh designed which can have the voice recognisers, you can record your own voice 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 509.48 509.95 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 535.86 539.3 So this is one of the very important feature a remote control can have. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 515.17 521.89 if you want to see we if you want to see the ninth channel if you say just say ninth channel,
IS1009c H01 FIO087 528.11 535.86 So the T. V. will have some recogniser which will recognise the user's voice and accordingly it will change its functionalities. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 510.39 515.17 which can be recognised by as voice recogniser in the television, for example 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 521.89 528.11 uh th now the the uh yeah, the remote will automatically it will switch to the ninth channel. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 524.19 524.51 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 527.63 527.98 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 535 535.66 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 535.66 536 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 541.17 545.27 So this is one one of the interface which can be created. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 546.82 547.17 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 547.2 552.29 A very simple interface which has all the t uh uh important features. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 553.37 554.42 Then, please, next slide. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 553.84 554.54 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 554.54 554.77 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 562.63 568.61 So uh sometimes the user finds it very difficult to recognise which button is for what function and all that. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 575.96 578.1 So can you go on t t uh to the next slide. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 555.73 562.63 Then, these are some of the remotes which are different in shape and colour, but they have many buttons. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 573.6 575.96 Even a kid can use that. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 568.61 573.6 So you can you can design an interface which is very simple, and which is user-friendly. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 562.14 562.64 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 575.77 576.11 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 585.05 592.82 And this has multi-purpose use, it can be used for T. V., it can be used for cable-satellite, it can be used for V. C. R., D. V. D. s and audio. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 579 585.05 Yeah, so this is one of the interface or one of the remote which has this vi voice recogniser. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 584.88 585.29 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 595.19 597.66 And this has in-built voice recogniser. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 601.65 603.35 Can you go on to the next slide? 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 610.14 616.64 Uh this is user-friendly, it's very attractive and uh children can use it as well as they can play with it. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 603.35 610.14 Yeah, now this is an interface for a chil uh for a remote uh uh which a child can use. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 616.64 620.22 And this comes with different colours, different shapes. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 609.9 610.25 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 620.84 620.95 Mm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 626.71 626.97 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 626.92 637.23 And this this uh child uh interface has minimum buttons and all the important uh buttons are there in this small, compact, 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 638.15 640.76 attractive child interface. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 646.55 647.79 Next slide, please. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 656.94 657.85 this. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 647.79 656.94 Now this is a big over-sized remote which cannot be misplaced or it's impossible to misplace. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 656.32 657.48 You don't know me. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 657.48 662.86 I could lose that in a minute. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 667.29 672.5 So this is a jumbo universal remote control and it's impossible to im misplace or lose. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 661.14 667.29 So this is No this is a very big, you cannot misplace it anywhere. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 672.77 673.22 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 673.89 676.48 This i this is one such interface which can be created. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 678.37 689.86 And the personal preference uh would be a spe uh uh to incorporate speech recognisers uh which will respond to user's voice for a particular uh function. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 688.49 688.84 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 690.57 690.76 Right. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 691.97 692.94 Thank you, that's 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 693.53 693.98 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 713.67 716.81 Uh any comments on uh her presentation? 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 711.48 713.67 Okay, thank you very much. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 731.78 740.06 I don't think that we can get uh The T-shape is good, the child one is good, the too big to misplace, I think it's just funny. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 748.14 750.47 It's it's gonna be a little bit too unwieldy. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 720.37 724.94 Well, um looks like we still have quite a choice of things out there. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 724.94 728.92 Um what uh I'm No suggestion's bad. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 740.06 748.14 Um I don't think that's gonna be our impulse purchase at the checkout counter. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 728.92 731.78 But uh we're gonna have to narrow it down a little more. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 724.39 724.67 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 728.73 728.96 Mm yes. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 740.4 742.56 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 742.29 744.11 Yeah, I I th I think 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 747.79 748.51 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 751.79 763.2 but uh as far as the decision making we getting to that after after but if I just wanted to know whether anybody had any any anything to add to her presentation. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 749.36 751.79 No, I think the these are her presentations 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 752.07 752.31 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 751.59 752.07 Yeah mm. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 754.76 756.17 Have to come back to that later. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 756.17 756.62 Okay. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 755.64 755.93 We can. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 766.43 766.69 Yeah. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 762.54 766.43 No, I think her presentation was good, and she really explored all the options. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 764.18 764.42 Mm right. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 766.47 767.35 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 767.35 769.47 Ho who wants to go next um? 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 770.14 770.7 Yeah, maybe. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 770.63 770.9 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 770.9 772.26 Okay, and you 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 772.09 772.82 Participant two. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 777.11 777.78 Uh okay. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 778.3 780.1 Uh the next one, sorry. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 780.1 781.22 It's it was the old one. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 779.59 780.01 Oops. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 787.59 788.21 Components. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 788.72 789.47 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 787.6 788.72 The components design. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 789.47 789.96 Okay. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 807.15 809.45 Uh, can you go on to the next slide, please. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 796.98 807.15 Um this time I'm I'm going to um concentrate more on the components and the technical side of the remote controller design. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 803.33 803.94 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 808.35 808.54 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 817.22 824.29 Uh the first one is case to keep all the components like integrated circuit, battery, etcetera, etcetera, it's like 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 810.13 817.22 I have just brief uh down few uh components which we require for the remote control uh construction. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 841.99 843.49 And it should be recyclable. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 829.74 835.49 even if you just uh uh, you know, if you if it falls down, then it doesn't break. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 824.52 829.74 Uh it can be a plastic one, hard plastic, so that it can be strong,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 837.53 841.99 And uh uh there are no harmful materials used in that. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 835.49 837.53 So it should be strong. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 837.36 837.74 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 844.73 845.18 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 845.23 852.3 Uh and uh, yeah, and also uh using of colouring compon components like uh if we want to have different colours,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 852.3 858.23 blue, red, green, so uh uh we have to use uh some colouring compone compone components. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 845.72 846.11 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 846.11 846.54 Good point. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 870.57 879.57 If it is not efficient then everything wi is going to be uh like um the lef ess less efficient so it you should we should have a highly sophisticated one. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 886.88 895.79 it should it should uh be able to re uh resist the uh temperature uh uh highs and uh high temperatures and low temperatures. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 895.79 900.48 And uh it should be with uh um equipped with timer and alarm facility. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 864.44 870.57 Uh which uh we can use a highly sophisticated one because it's like the it's like the heart of the remote controller. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 858.84 864.44 And uh the second important thing is uh uh uh integrated circuit. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 879.57 883.48 And it should be resistant to high as well as uh low temperatures. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 883.48 886.88 Suppose if it is thirty-eight degrees outside forty degrees outside 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 921.06 921.99 capacitor. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 921.99 923.6 Can you go on to the next slide, please? 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 901.4 921.06 And the uh other component we should uh we have in the remote controller is a resistor uh which is like uh uh i it is very very much important for the electricity uh flow through through through the uh remote controller and uh also a capacitor which is a b which is a m I think it's it's like a battery 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 922.16 922.43 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 923.64 924.03 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 926.05 930.19 Uh a diode, a transistor, a resonator 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 936.92 941.09 A battery uh, I would like to suggest one thing uh if we 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 930.19 936.92 these are all this uh technical uh electri electronic compons uh components which are which we have to use in a remote controller. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 954.34 956.28 It it it's not a high voltage battery. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 941.62 950.16 uh if we will be able to make a res rechargeable battery then we sh we need not go for a high performance battery 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 950.16 954.34 even if it is a low performance battery it ca it can't l it can't charge much. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 956.28 960.94 Then also we can If it is a rechargeable one, then uh people can use it for a long time,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 960.94 967.48 so in that way we can cut cut the cost, but w uh uh that we have to make the battery as rechargeable one. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 950.04 950.38 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 974.46 977.54 And how it works, how the remote controller works. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 977.54 978.52 When you press a button 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 972.15 974.46 Can you go to the next slide, please. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 968.32 972.15 And we we have a circuit board uh in a remote controller. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 984.52 984.89 Go away. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 987.14 989.82 Uh when you press a button, when you do that 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1013.97 1017.7 It pros produces a mors morse code line signal specific to that button. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1006.04 1013.97 Suppose you have pressed channel one button, number one you have pressed, then the uh chip will know that the number one button was pressed. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 989.82 997.92 you complete a specific connection that means when you when you press a button there will be a s a small circuit underneath the button,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 986.39 987.14 Thank you. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 997.92 1006.04 and it will send some signals through the wires, and then uh the chip will send start connection and knows that which button is pressed. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1018.28 1021.81 Every button, every individual button, has its own morse code. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1038.96 1042.47 Like you have got a signal by pressing a button. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1042.47 1046.33 That's a d a morse code has been generated by the integrated circuit. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1021.81 1031.51 Suppose uh the uh user has pressed butto button one, then it will have a spe the circuit will generate a specific morse code to b that that button 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1031.51 1038.96 and the transistor will amplify the signal and send then to the L. E. D. which translates the signal into infrared light. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1054.49 1062.05 It will amplify the signal and it will send it to the L. E. D. and which translates the signal into an infra infrared bits. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1078.71 1081 Then it will do the appropriate action. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1050.88 1054.49 That is the use of transist transistor we which we use in the remote controller. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1062.05 1069.14 The sensor on the T. V. can see the infrared light, and seeing the signal seeing the signal re it reacts appropriately,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1081 1084.06 So uh this is how the remote controller works. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1046.9 1050.88 Now, that signal, that morse code, has to be amplified by the transistor. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1069.14 1078.71 that when it sees the amplified mo morse code signal, then it will uh it will uh know which uh what what action it has to uh do. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1083.82 1084.16 It works. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1086.08 1087.39 Can you go to the next slide, please. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1096.02 1097.75 And to the next slide, please. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1089.5 1096.02 When you look at the uh um remote controller uh it's it's it this is a normal remote controller. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1088.18 1089.5 Yeah, I have few pictures. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1095.56 1095.83 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1112.06 1122.52 and also a capac uh a capacitor, three resistors and also a resonator uh um mm yeah, and di and a diode transistor. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1101.76 1107.81 And uh if you open the remote controller you have this circui circuit board and few electronic components 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1099.16 1101.76 And where we had a a few buttons and all. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1107.81 1112.06 like you can see a chip there which is having eighteen pins,
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1106.15 1106.45 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1109.75 1110.09 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1110.14 1110.38 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1123.59 1123.83 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1124.09 1131.65 The electronic components uh all of the electronic components have all those uh things like a chip and d diode transistors an 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1134.11 1141.56 Yeah, di um can y uh you can see the T. A. double one eight three five labelled uh chip um. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1138.92 1140.15 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1140.15 1140.46 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1139.58 1140.05 Mm yes. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1140.8 1141.08 Yes. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1149.4 1156.95 and uh just beside that you can see a transistor, and a uh uh cylinder shape, uh that one is a capacitor. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1156.95 1162.36 Uh and also there are uh um resistors uh sorry, ther there is a diode. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1142.74 1149.4 Uh you can also see the uh uh the green two green things are uh these are they are they are resistors,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1162.36 1163.86 Can you go go on to the next slide. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1149.28 1149.71 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1163.03 1163.34 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1161.97 1163.03 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1178.5 1184.89 because uh uh when you when you are building uh some circuits some um uh circuits and also wires,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1175.06 1178.5 Uh it's it costs less than what you print on a paper 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1168.61 1175.06 Actually, uh building a circuit bo board is pretty pretty uh easy and also it's a it's a l l inexpensive. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1184.89 1193.11 it's it's better to go for printing, because uh you can build these kind of k circuit boards on a on a bulk and it's just printing,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1164.98 1166.63 So uh this is the circuit board. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1201.32 1205.31 Tha tho those prints will acti act as wires and ci uh circuits. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1196.07 1198.42 It's not exactly wires we are using. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1166.63 1168.61 The green one is a circuit board. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1198.42 1201.32 It's just printing something on a board. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1193.11 1196.07 nothing like uh, you know, you don't need to use wires and all. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1193.38 1193.76 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1209.79 1217.09 and also you can see uh there are b s like uh um access for buttons, like when you press a button 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1229.29 1230.67 Can you go to the next slide, please. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1206.71 1209.79 So th that green uh thing is a circuit board,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1217.09 1227.49 the circuit under the button will be activated uh th it will it will he get some signals from it and it will uh it will ch its ch se send a signal signals to the,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1227.49 1229.29 yeah, um integrated circuit. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1224.56 1225 Transmit. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1235.28 1237.81 Uh can you see the black uh, round marks? 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1237.81 1239.04 They they are the circuits. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1231.24 1235.28 Uh so this is these are the circuits un underneath the buttons. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1237.53 1237.84 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1237.83 1238.13 Yes. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1279.68 1285.34 So that also we can have in a battery, uh or we can use solar sells. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1273.06 1279.68 um a kinetic provision of energy, more than what is that you shake casually to provide energy. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1285.34 1285.81 Uh. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1260.04 1266.66 Like for s scrolls we have to go for a sophisticated and and k uh uh uh full a complete chip. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1266.66 1273.06 Uh and a as energy source we offer a basic battery, a more ingenious uh hard dynamo,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1239.98 1241.13 Next, please. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1241.13 1250.76 And um like uh we have uh designed uh before we have seen some uh few things like instead off buttons we have some scrolls. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1250.76 1260.04 Uh b but a b a push-button requires a simple chip underneath it, but whereas a scroll wheel requires normally a regular chip which is a higher price range. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1259.97 1260.27 Okay. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1263.61 1263.83 Okay. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1285.3 1286.54 Hmm, that's interesting. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1287.33 1287.58 Yeah. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1293.58 1301.24 Uh usually, the cases and card flat that w we see usually uh d uh a normal remote controller. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1301.24 1301.61 Um. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1289.93 1293.58 Uh yeah uh the product can be de delivered into different cases. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1297.17 1297.47 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1302.83 1304.08 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1305.22 1307.39 Uh we have five minutes to the end of the meeting. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1304.08 1305.22 And you have more pictures. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1303.58 1303.93 Yeah. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1310.29 1310.79 Um. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1306.72 1310.29 Yeah, maybe d uh I have just one more slide, I think. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1318.05 1325.83 Um and also for electronics we can use a simple and regular um re or an advanced chip on the print 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1329.75 1335.92 Um yeah the uh for the movie just to j develop uh samples and so spe sample speaker. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1325.83 1329.75 um also infra it includes the infrared se sender. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1312.14 1318.05 Like we can have a ma material such as plastic, rubber, wood, titanium, but titanium we can't use. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1337.16 1338.3 An Yeah, that's it. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1339.22 1340.42 It's all for me now, thank you. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1340.33 1341.13 Okay, well thank you. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1342.48 1345.77 Any particular comments by anybody? 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1346.48 1352.75 Uh yeah, on the scroll and the push-button, um ca you can achieve scrolling by repeatedly pushing a button? 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1373.25 1373.96 Yeah. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1371.72 1373.25 Yeah uh yeah, push-buttons. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1367.83 1371.72 So I think it's better we go for uh um ordinary buttons. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1353.52 1359.67 No, no, no, th the the the scrolling wheels are different, like you can go for a sw switches like buttons or scrolls,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1363.26 1367.83 Now, nobody uses that because you need you need a a k sophisticated chip and all. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1359.67 1363.26 uh which which we used to do before ten ten years before, I think. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1373.96 1374.38 Yeah. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1359.27 1359.63 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1368.34 1368.52 Um. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1374.42 1374.69 Okay. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1371.09 1374.42 We'll just go for push buttons for in the interest of cost. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1372.41 1373.1 Push-buttons. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1374.98 1382.69 We don't have a lot of time left and we will still have to make a decision, and the marketing expert has to present her her thing. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1381.16 1381.88 Okay. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1381.88 1383.48 Go right to my first my next slide. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1383.83 1384.86 Uh okay. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1494.81 1499.39 And in my research this year I found out that fruit and vegetable shapes are really popular. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1438.39 1443.55 and they want um as few buttons as possible, and they don't care for the mode thing. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1426.85 1430.16 Um people like something that really fits in their hand. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1421.48 1426.85 Um and my findings from this is that, you know, small is beautiful. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1402.22 1407.93 I s I spend a lot of time on the internet um surfing around doing the same thing. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1468.4 1473.54 And we should develop one or two features we can really dwell on in our ad campaign. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1430.16 1431.44 Simple is beautiful. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1451.45 1457.82 Um and our preference is, as far as I'm concerned, are we got to get to the market before the competition. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1462.5 1468.4 so that we have a leg up on time to sell it and push it before other people get out their Christmas item. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1503.24 1509.82 They are more back into soft feel, spongy feeling things, things with maybe a little cloth on them. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1443.55 1445.58 They want each button to do something. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1418.86 1421.48 And I would encourage you all to do the same. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1407.93 1413.46 And then when I'm out um in people's houses or at meetings or anything like that,
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1395.91 1402.22 so I've really been looking at the press and the ads that are out there for other remote controllers. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1446.76 1449.23 It's gotta look cute, it's gotta look appealing. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1480.32 1488.72 So we've gotta narrow our selection down to li two things, I think, that we gonna say are really great about our our our new product. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1488.72 1494.81 And I've been looking around um at what designs every year different things are popular. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1431.44 1438.39 They don't want to have to squint at small print um, they want buttons whose functions are obvious,
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1499.39 1503.24 And people are tired of hard plastic and hard metal. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1413.46 1418.86 I try to notice what kind of remote controls people have, and if it's convenient in the conversation I ask about it. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1509.82 1514.7 So those are things maybe we wanna look at as far as saleability of the item. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1449.23 1451.45 Go ahead, I'm trying to finish fast for you. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1473.54 1480.32 If we try to tell people it has too many great features, um the consumer just gets confused and we don't get anywhere. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1386.41 1395.91 Um alright, my method is uh I'm interested in what the competition is doing, and wanna see how we can make ourselves different from the competition 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1457.82 1462.5 Ours has to be look really great and it has to come out before the others 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1445.58 1446.76 And eye-catching is important. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1429.75 1430.06 'Kay. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1514.93 1515.28 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1517.17 1518.2 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1518.2 1520.29 Uh that 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1524.85 1532.03 And what we really have to decide in this meeting is um the concept of the remote. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1522 1524.85 concludes the presentation of everyone. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1532.45 1532.84 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1533.62 1540.15 And uh so what do we think on the concept 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1541.12 1541.94 of the remote? 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1545.19 1548.97 You wanna try to come back to yours, and limit yours a bit? 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1547.66 1551.84 Uh yes, I would like to include this feature which is called as voice recogniser. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1547.99 1548.78 Y 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1552.18 1553.61 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1553.61 1554.46 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1552.21 1552.54 Okay. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1554.5 1554.81 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1556.31 1559.45 So speech recognition is most important as far as you're concerned? 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1559.51 1559.8 Yeah, but w 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1559.94 1562.54 This could be uh one feature which could be sellable. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1562.76 1565.29 Yeah h that could that could that could be our star feature. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1565.29 1567.93 That that be really good, yeah, I agree with that. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1563.53 1563.74 Yeah. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1563.7 1564.55 I think that's 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1572.87 1578.09 because a speech recogniser like i it it has its own uh uh problems, issues. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1566.82 1572.87 Yeah, but but I what I'm uh very very much doubtful how how uh far it will work,
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1566.99 1567.43 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1577.14 1578.17 Distance problem? 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1578.56 1581.96 Yeah, it's not distance problem it it's recognising a person's voice,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1581.96 1587.44 like maybe different people will be having different voices, so it like it's uh everything so i 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1580.06 1580.37 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1584.87 1585.27 Uh. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1586.54 1589.29 Well, you you teach You have to teach uh 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1588.75 1593.24 So to get a good recogni recognising system, it's a costly thing, I think. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1591.21 1598.44 No, it's it's, uh yeah, it it's like your recording of uh all uh um a question already,
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1617.56 1620.29 It will recognise my voice and will switch on. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1602.29 1609.92 I'm the user and my family members are the user, I will already record uh a question like,
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1614.38 1617.56 So I'll say just good morning and the T. V. will switch on. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1609.92 1614.38 uh good morning, like around eight o'clock I want to see the news in the television. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1598.44 1602.29 and then you're expecting an answer from th For example, you have a T. V. system,
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1603.38 1603.72 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1607.27 1608.14 Yeah, but Yeah. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1608.9 1609.19 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1613.06 1613.4 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1617.23 1617.66 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1619.41 1619.69 Yeah. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1626.07 1628.97 What kind of energy do we foresee? 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1619.98 1626.07 Okay, before we get too far off here um, the components of the concept is the energy. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1630.36 1633.63 I think I think battery, and I think we all agreed on that. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1633.63 1636.59 That that's that's gonna be most cost-effective and the best thing. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1631.75 1632.19 Battery. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1630.6 1631.75 Battery. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1631.84 1632.03 Battery. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1633.76 1634.1 Yes. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1635.15 1635.56 Yeah. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1634.35 1635.15 Yeah. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1636.99 1639.26 Okay then chip on print. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1639.36 1639.77 Yeah. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1639.78 1640.01 Yep. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1640 1640.32 Yes. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1640.48 1641.76 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1641.76 1642.67 And the case. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1642.67 1647.56 And I think we all agree on the case, we wanna have something uh maybe bright, colourful. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1647.65 1648.1 Yeah. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1648.16 1652.3 Bright, colourful, trendy trendy design, and strong. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1648.81 1649.7 And compact. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1649.14 1650.21 And also strong. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1650.87 1652.05 Trendy, yeah. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1651.19 1652.9 Trendy design and compact. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1653.08 1653.48 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1654.79 1657.39 Trendy design, compact and strong. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1657.31 1657.79 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1657.46 1657.93 Yes. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1660.28 1666.45 User interface concept, uh interface type, supplements. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1669.6 1672.5 That will be your area I think, right, Jana. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1670.1 1670.49 Uh. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1674.28 1678.85 Um like the switches, like we use buttons for user interface. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1678.85 1679.54 Push-buttons. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1679.51 1682.27 Put uh k I guess uh for yeah. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1679.92 1680.5 Push-buttons. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1685.19 1686.35 And 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1687.22 1689.21 Not sure what they mean by supplements. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1687.91 1688.09 And 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1689.26 1689.46 Yeah. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1689.45 1690.7 Well, I think that 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1689.78 1696.57 Supplements like different types of features buttons, like can have a f mute button or a swapping button. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1692.64 1696.94 Yeah, or or like her speech recognition would also be a supplement. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1696.94 1699.28 Her speech recognition feature would be a supplement. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1693.17 1693.82 Oh, like 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1694.98 1695.29 Oh. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1697.01 1698.02 A what? 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1698.02 1699.23 Right, right, right, mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1698.39 1699.39 Recogniser. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1699.39 1699.85 Yes. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1698.96 1699.37 Mm yeah. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1700.12 1707.26 Okay, so why don't we put down speech recognition if possible pending some more research from our industrial engineer on how expensive that is. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1703.14 1703.26 Hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1706.32 1707.23 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1707.23 1707.44 Yeah. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1707.41 1707.91 Right. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1707.57 1707.98 Yes. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1711.6 1712.59 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1712.59 1716.54 Uh our next meeting will be in thirty minutes,
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1716.54 1726.85 and the uh I. D. is to this is the individual actions to be taken until then, to have the look and feel design, 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1728.71 1737.24 and uh the U. I. D. is supposed to uh come up with the user interface design, 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1737.76 1738.11 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1738.47 1743.01 and the marketing expert with the product evaluation. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1752.88 1758.09 You will receive specific instructions will be sent to you by your coaches. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1743.01 1752.88 In this phase, the two of you, Jana and Francine, have to work together on a prototype using modelling clay, it says here. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1742.36 1742.8 Okay. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1748.75 1749.26 Okay. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1753.49 1753.58 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1758.32 1758.88 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1759.54 1771.11 Um if you have any questions, you know, you you can always uh contact me um or uh or your coach, I suppose. 
IS1009c H03 FIO089 1769.12 1774.06 Wherever they're hiding? 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1773.27 1783.98 Um so um I think we conclude the meeting here and we come back in uh uh thirty minutes, according to our timetable here. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1781.33 1781.58 Yeah. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1781.41 1781.77 Okay. 
IS1009c H00 FIE088 1787.52 1788.32 Thank you very much. 
IS1009c H02 FIO084 1788.31 1789.19 Thank you. 
IS1009c H01 FIO087 1788.37 1788.85 Thank you. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 39.38 41.33 Well hi everyone again. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 41.27 41.56 Hello. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 41.31 41.55 Hello. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 41.82 42.25 Hello 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 43.24 54.4 Um like before we uh I have to redo the meetings from n th the minutes from the last meeting and so here we go. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 50.89 51.34 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 55.91 64.64 Uh it was discussed in the last meeting uh which was opened by the presentation from the interface um 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 65.64 66.87 Designer. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 79.03 89.79 It should have nine channel buttons, a next button, volume buttons, subtitle buttons, switch to control features, colour contrast, sharpness etcetera. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 65.67 79.03 designer that uh looks would be very important on this new remote and um it is to send messages of course to the T. V. . 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 94.35 106.53 Uh speech recognition is one of her very f favourite personal uh features she would like see d d to be integrated in this um in this new remote. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 90.2 94.35 It should have a memory switch, a mute button in case the telephone rings or something. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 106.53 107.8 Um. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 110.91 120.13 Should be child friendly design with few buttons, colourful maybe with s star shaped or other shaped buttons. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 120.13 129.26 Um she uh presented also an oversized remote which she guarantees nobody will ever be able to lose. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 130.37 130.96 Um 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 130.37 135.22 And she was challenged on that point 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 132.17 133.32 that's right. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 132.27 134.57 Yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 134.85 144.1 But uh her very f personal favourite really she, she would very much like to see a speech recogniser integrated in this remote. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 144.1 153.15 The industrial designer um presented her uh thoughts on the issue. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 153.15 164.38 She would like a special case made out of plastic that is very strong, not using any harmful materials, should be recyclable and should be colourful. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 165.64 171.16 Should have an integrated circuit board that's highly sophisticated and temperature resistant. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 172.84 180.1 She would like to see a timer and or alarm facility integrated. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 180.1 191.44 Uh technically this thing would also have a resistor and a capacitor, diode transistor, resonator, and if possible a rechargeable battery. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 192.63 194.71 Uh and of course a circuit board. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 198.52 220.01 the chip is morse morse code related relays the uh to the generat to the generator amplification and uh the circuit board is very inexpensive to build and so she thinks this is a great feature uh to to to consider. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 195.99 198.52 And how it would works, you press the button 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 215.46 215.73 Okay. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 222.16 226.96 She would like uh this whole thing should be push buttons with a simple chip 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 228.04 232.64 uh scrolling method is more expensive and not that practical anymore. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 233.84 238.91 Should be battery operated and of course she would have the special cases. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 251.46 262.73 has done some research on the internet and also has used h her personal observations to come up with the fact that such a remote sh should be small, 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 240.4 251.46 The marketing expert uh who has to finally come up with to to to market this product has been watching the competition,
IS1009d H00 FIE088 264.31 266.54 easy to use and it should be eye catching. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 270.36 277.45 From her point of view of course one of the most important facts is that we should get to market before our competition does. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 280.58 290.57 To do that uh maybe one or two features should be developed on which we could dwell on or in other words on which our campaign could be built on. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 292.13 296.97 Too many new features or too many points would only confuse matter. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 296.97 301.49 So we prefer to have one or two features that can be really uh driven home. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 302.88 309.16 Um it should have a fruit and vegetable design and should have a soft feel. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 309.16 311.26 She feels that's really what people want today. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 312.93 320.97 And the decision that we took last time was that uh the special feature we would like to see is a speech recogniser, 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 322.18 331.89 the energy should be battery uh should be on a chip, should be trendy design, compact and strong, and should have buttons. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 333.25 337.98 And that concludes the presentation from the last minutes from the last meeting. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 340.72 345.35 Now uh we are ready for the presentation of the prototype. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 347.27 347.44 Yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 348.81 351.12 Just the look like, the button part I'll explain. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 347.73 348.81 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 351.32 351.57 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 381.47 384.29 Uh and also compact in shape. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 356.25 359.39 Uh so this is our what uh we have made. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 384.29 391.28 Uh um and also i it it will be easily fit into into the hands and you can access all the buttons easily. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 363.76 381.47 Uh this is us in a snail shape so uh it it is attractive um and it's it's blue in colour uh bright and uh it has yellow buttons and all the different colour buttons so it is a uh uh a looks-wise it is beautiful. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 359.39 363.76 This is a model of the remote control which we are going to build. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 363.39 363.7 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 366.74 367.11 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 372.4 372.79 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 377.8 378.07 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 381.16 381.43 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 383.89 384.22 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 388.95 389.28 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 391.48 392.09 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 392.09 392.98 Good. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 393 396.65 Yeah, oops, sorry. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 395.02 400.24 You used to have all the buttons 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 398.28 413.01 Um yeah and um uh the material which we are going to use for the case is uh plastic and uh w which which is s strong um uh and also uh for the 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 414.45 424.26 Um the material is plastic and uh for the buttons it is uh s soft rubber um and als yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 424.26 429.99 Yeah because uh uh you'll be touching the buttons more so it is soft when you touch it. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 422.28 424.51 Oh that's good, no, that's nice and friendly. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 427.43 427.68 Mm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 426.89 427.43 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 429.22 430.23 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 429.5 429.92 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 430.39 433.32 And then um uh for the for the led 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 433.32 442.39 for the light emitting diode it is a fluorescent green and it's a a it is a bulb like an ordinary infrared. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 434.93 435.27 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 436.74 437.16 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 444.13 448.78 And and the button button's part uh will be explained by F Francina. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 449.7 455.42 Now the um we decided upon including certain features on our remote. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 455.42 465.64 Now these features includes the s um signal emitting uh signal it's the led or L. E. D. the infrared. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 465.64 469.58 Now uh we have included the switch on and off button. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 448.91 449.7 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 449.1 449.52 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 462.89 463.97 Yeah, okay, mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 463.31 464.36 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 470.22 471.22 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 473.12 477.03 Now we have included another feature that is the mute button 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 479.57 480.36 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 481.12 483.63 on the side of the model. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 483.63 487.67 Then we have included one to nine buttons 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 483.18 483.51 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 488.9 491.9 for controlling the programmes the different channels. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 494.39 495.9 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 497.51 502.64 We have also included two buttons for increasing or decreasing the volume. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 506.23 506.93 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 507.38 512.94 And we have also included two buttons for scrolling up and scrolling down the programme channels. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 516.52 516.76 Mm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 516.9 521.36 Now our our model also contains a button which is called as the menu button. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 521.78 522.53 What kind of button? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 522.59 523.37 Menu button. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 523.67 523.99 Menu? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 523.99 526 Uh menu th menu, uh one one. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 524.16 525.02 Yes, menu 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 524.41 525.14 Menu button. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 526.13 526.95 At the centre 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 527.67 528.09 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 528.36 536.49 we have included a button which is fluorescent green colour and this is the menu button which will control the colour, sharpness, brightness 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 537.24 538.28 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 539.02 539.69 Mm, mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 538.28 539.02 Of the screen. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 538.96 540.05 of this uh picture. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 543 547.09 We have also included a button which is called as the swapping button. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 548.54 553.07 Now this is uh a special, special feature which we have included. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 553.07 553.79 Now this button 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 565.91 569.16 if it is turned towards the right it will take to the next channel. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 555.25 565.91 is an elongated shaped button and this is slightly flexible so if it is turned towards the right it will take to the previous channel 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 570.45 573.53 It will take the user to the previous and the next channel so this is a 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 576.62 577.55 swapping button. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 580.41 584.17 The next channel in the numeric pattern, or 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 594.2 594.57 Yes. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 593.16 594.2 this button. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 584.28 593.16 swapping is if if example you're you're watching the second channel and then you go to the tenth channel and if you want to go back to the second channel you can swap 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 584.12 584.28 No 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 587.78 588.33 Yeah, mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 590.61 590.83 Mm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 593.76 594.85 Okay, okay. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 599.19 609.01 And at the end, it this remote has inbuilt voice recogniser which c which will recognise the user's voice and then it'll act accordingly. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 604.16 604.29 Okay. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 607.11 607.41 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 612.53 613.09 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 617.73 619.87 Now the marketing expert has to 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 614.77 617.73 So this is our proposed model. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 614.87 615.29 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 617.29 617.57 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 620.3 621.28 Tell, yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 621.2 627.96 give her suggestion whether it'll be sellable or it'll be cost effective. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 628.21 629.82 Okay, well um 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 635.79 642.61 that you can really hold it in one h you don't need two hands and it's easily reachable even for somebody with a small hand, yeah? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 631.12 635.79 what what I really like a lot about it is that you can reach the whole thing with one thumb,
IS1009d H01 FIO087 635.32 636.28 Yes, yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 637.66 638 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 642.79 644.8 Yes the buttons are all raised, right? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 645.11 652.46 The buttons are all raised and if you hold it in the centre of your hand you can even reach it over here so you don't have to turn it around,
IS1009d H03 FIO089 656.53 661.94 You really did a good job on that, my little designers. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 661.94 669.48 Um and um I like the idea that the on-off button is in a really prominent place. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 669.48 671.18 That's that's a really good good thing. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 652.46 656.53 turn it upside down, move it up, up and down, I really like that. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 645.27 645.41 Yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 645.66 646.51 Are raised, mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 649.7 650.04 Right. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 653.17 655.22 Or have two hands to operate it, yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 656.85 657.11 Mm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 656.9 657.14 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 670.81 678.08 Yes, and it sort of sticks up so that you really you don't have to g first go like oh yeah here it's on and yeah, mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 672.2 673.46 Yeah, that's great. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 674.88 675.22 Hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 675.92 676.36 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 676.33 676.94 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 676.84 677.88 Abs okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 680.08 686.33 Um the um these buttons uh around here are the mute 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 677.86 680.08 The colour's very attractive. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 687.45 692.36 No, these the front buttons which are here, are the mute buttons. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 692.36 693.23 Yes, yes. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 687.59 690.52 and these mm-hmm 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 691.59 693.14 On both sides they're mute? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 693.14 695.19 So you can push either one? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 695.19 695.61 Okay. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 694.4 694.82 Yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 695.7 698.06 So if you're left-handed or right-handed it doesn't matter. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 699.48 703.93 This brings the menu up on the screen and the orange ones are 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 697.03 699.48 And this brings the menu up on the screen? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 699.16 699.48 Pardon me? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 699.86 701.47 This is the menu yes, yes. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 704.04 712.61 A the the these these two are th to increase or decrease the volumes, and these two are to uh scroll the programme channels. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 708.12 708.61 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 712.1 713.87 F f okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 713.87 714.89 Right, very good. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 714.08 715.69 Scroll up or scroll down the channels. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 715.89 718.43 Uh it looks mm looks like something I can sell. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 721.04 724.1 Okay and now I'm supposed to yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 722.55 728.83 Well, I have one question uh will there be anything written on the buttons,
IS1009d H00 FIE088 728.83 733.8 like that people know, or they have to learn that from a piece of paper which button does what? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 733.84 740.01 Yes, it will have uh these buttons will have the numbers and all the rest of the buttons will have symbols. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 740.01 742.03 Yes, which can be easily recognised. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 734.11 734.46 Ah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 735.22 736.05 Yeah, definitely. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 739.33 744.57 Will have symbols so that that that the user really knows you know and doesn't have to first learn it 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 740.48 740.64 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 740.51 741.38 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 741.38 741.59 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 742.46 742.95 Yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 742.93 743.28 Yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 743.52 743.87 Yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 743.73 749.71 Good point because we need the symbols 'cause we're going into an international market we can't have anything that's language dependent. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 744.74 745.12 Yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 746.14 747.75 Yeah of course, and also 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 747.97 748.2 Yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 748.42 748.65 Hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 749.76 756.13 But anyway it would ha i i i it has to have some kind of of symbols, text or something so that people kn 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 748.93 749.76 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 749.34 749.72 Yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 749.88 749.97 Yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 751.61 752.53 Yeah we can 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 753.56 754.47 Symbols on it. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 754.47 755.44 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 753.89 754.32 Text. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 754.68 755.18 Yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 760.79 761.33 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 755.41 760.79 Text that we can have on the case itself, we can it will be printed on the case and symbols as well as the buttons. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 757.69 758.17 Yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 757.72 758.05 That's right. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 758.1 758.33 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 759.24 761.55 Okay, yeah just wanted make sure of that mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 760.05 760.45 And 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 767.3 768.08 A shell shape. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 761.28 767.3 and one more feature is we we have a holder for this remote which is an oyster shape. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 761.58 762.17 Mm, 'kay, mm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 765.04 765.41 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 790.32 790.93 So 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 773.58 788.88 Well you know I think we could do something really funny with this too because the snail is known to be slow and we could have some sort of little comic effect on our marketing about how this is a rapid snail or something like that you know that would 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 771.67 773.58 He goes right back into his shell. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 768.55 771.67 For the snail, yeah, mm-hmm, we have the snail shell. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 788.88 790.32 that would really work. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 769.27 770 Right, mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 769.28 770.26 Yes, yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 769.42 769.72 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 770.42 773.18 So it is yeah, yeah shell. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 770.93 772.24 Yes, snail shell. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 770.97 771.11 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 772.92 773.31 Yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 773.28 773.56 Right. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 778.3 778.67 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 784.18 784.51 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 784.48 784.65 Mm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 786.78 788.22 Y Yes 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 786.99 789.21 Yeah, of course, yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 793.29 797.18 That's really the voice recognition that's really unusual 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 790.05 793.29 Now what, what are our special features for the marketing? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 796.32 802.57 I think voice recognition is our big selling point 'cause nobody else seems to have that in in this price range. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 799.16 799.6 Mm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 799.6 799.92 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 801.03 801.25 Mm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 802.76 809.37 And then, and then the other thing would basically be sh shape or practicality of use. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 809.81 815.79 Yep uh well I think that everybody's gonna say their remote control is practical. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 821.28 823.31 We're really gonna have the be the 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 815.79 821.28 I think we have to, we have to dwell on on on the appearance. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 811.09 811.59 You know. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 816.95 817.85 Colours. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 820.76 821.13 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 824.15 824.65 Cutest. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 837.13 837.62 The look 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 835.55 837.13 I think those are the two things to push. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 827.08 835.55 So I think we have to play with the image, play with the snail image um play with the visual and then the voice recognition. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 824.45 827.08 cutest remote control on the block. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 826.51 826.76 Mm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 826.94 827.1 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 835.61 835.99 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 838.97 840.11 and the voice recognition. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 840.11 841.85 They're gonna be our two selling points. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 842.93 845.75 Okay, now uh having said that 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 845.56 847.61 I'm supposed to make a little presentation, aren't I? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 848.64 852.97 No, now this was our evaluation criteria which we uh just have done. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 852.97 855.76 Now we're gonna talk about financing. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 851.4 852.43 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 856.63 862.59 Ah, but in my instructions I think it said I was supposed to go to the board and do something. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 862.59 862.75 No? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 861.84 864.37 Well, there is a production evaluation. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 864.37 864.85 Is that you? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 865.17 865.66 Yeah, that's me. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 868.09 868.72 See? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 866.04 868.09 But that's after the financing. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 868.72 869.29 Fi see? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 867.44 868.22 Oh, okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 868.22 870.76 Sorry, sorry. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 870.76 870.88 Mm-mm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 873.09 873.9 Um. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 875.39 879.96 Okay, we had looks and voice recognition. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 886.86 894.4 Okay uh energy source we say that's battery, right? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 879.96 886.86 Okay now on the financing we bring up the mm there it is. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 894.86 895.17 Mm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 895.56 895.98 That's right. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 896.37 897.62 Okay, now. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 900.85 902.81 So we I guess we use one. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 903.74 904.05 Yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 904.16 904.59 Yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 906.02 906.43 What? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 913.58 914.46 Well, that's nice. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 909.83 913.58 T cell or chart you are trying to change is protected. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 915.3 918.13 She told me I could just ch change it here and then it would 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 919.13 919.84 It doesn't work. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 922.01 922.4 Hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 924.77 926.77 Can you just fill it in in the yellow boxes? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 926.77 927.31 Or 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 927.31 929.79 Oh, okay yeah, okay, let's see. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 939.18 942.26 Uh electronics, simple chip on print? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 934.43 939.18 Um kinetic source so that's in the energy source that's all we need. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 933.28 934.43 Oh go away. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 943.56 944.32 One of those? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 942.26 943.56 Is that's what we're using? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 929.79 933.28 Okay, one, okay. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 927.88 928.42 Yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 929.83 930.35 Yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 938.34 938.61 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 942.38 943.52 Yeah, yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 942.55 942.68 Yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 945.59 946.85 Come on. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 951.21 951.58 No. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 946.85 948.72 Okay, one. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 948.72 951.21 Uh regular chip on print. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 952.51 952.8 No. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 952.86 958.59 That's all we need, the one case, uncurved flat, single curved, double curved. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 953.71 954.06 Yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 959.77 961.16 Well. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 962.77 963.47 This is a 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 963.6 964.59 Single curve? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 964.59 964.79 Mm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 965.33 966.73 I guess it's double curved. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 968.64 969.35 One of those? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 967.04 968.64 Double curved? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 969.48 969.95 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 972.23 974.44 Case materi s supplements. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 974.44 976.45 Plastic we said, right? 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 975.71 976.04 Yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 976.17 976.79 Plastic. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 978.26 979.62 Uh wood, rubber? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 979.75 981.64 Rubber, because we're gonna have the soft buttons. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 980.1 980.38 Yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 982.68 984.62 Uh but, yes but 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 985.01 989.36 I think uh that is uh f for rubbers that is uh yeah case material. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 987.22 992.64 That's just for the case material, so special colours though, we having that, right? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 988.78 989.91 Is this for the case? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 989.91 990.29 Yes. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 989.36 990.82 Oh okay, the mm-hmm, mm' kay. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 992.77 993.41 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 992.8 993.29 Yes. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 993.08 993.47 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 995.09 999.01 And then we have to interface push buttons. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 999.17 999.63 Yes. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 999.19 999.8 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1005 1007.7 Integrated scroll wheel, L. C. display? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1003.68 1005 Scroll wheel, no. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1007.97 1011.05 No, 'cause we didn't put the clock in it after all, right? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1008.24 1008.61 No. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1009.18 1009.97 Button. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1011.62 1011.93 No. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1011.72 1011.96 Yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1012.22 1012.53 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1013.19 1015.33 Uh, button supplement special colour? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1013.48 1014.26 Speci 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1015.54 1015.93 Yes 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1017.7 1018.56 Special form? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1019.3 1021.29 Yes d we do have special form. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1019.65 1020.17 Yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1022.76 1025.52 And special material, rubber, wood, yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1025.48 1025.64 Yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1027.27 1027.84 Okay. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1030.51 1034.17 Total seven point six whatever that means. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1035.08 1037.63 Uh, I think that's the price. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1036.65 1037.82 That's the price. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1036.69 1039.47 One two three four five six seven eight nine 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1039.15 1040.42 Maybe it is it just n 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1039.16 1039.34 Mm? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1040.79 1042.35 Eight, eight point two. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1046.63 1048.91 Nine points, okay, yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1046.83 1048.24 That's hmm? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1049.67 1050.54 Eight point two, right? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1052.36 1054.27 So, we looks like we are 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1055.64 1056.56 well within budget. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1056.69 1057.01 Yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1056.71 1057 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1057 1057.44 Okay. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1057.85 1058.42 Okay. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1060.93 1062.72 I guess I should save this I suppose, huh? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1062.93 1063.23 Yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1068.99 1069.33 Oops. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1079.99 1081.08 Uh-huh huh huh. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1084.98 1085.98 On the desktop. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1089.69 1091.44 My compu Ah oh here it is, yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1086.61 1088.07 I just tried that. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1088.07 1089.69 My documents, computer. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1088.15 1088.63 AMI. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1089.86 1091.01 AMI should for 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1096.83 1098.36 Okay, fine. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1098.36 1098.9 Save. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1108.34 1109.79 Um. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1101.4 1104.31 Okay good, so that's the good news. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1104.31 1108.34 We gonna be popular. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1105.97 1106.28 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1106 1106.65 Yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1111.64 1114.24 So that uh I think financing was pretty simple. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1114.59 1114.86 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1115.35 1121.65 Now we would like to have a presentation by the marketing expert on production evaluation. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1122.17 1124.48 Okay, I'll take my file down so you can bring it up. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1137.91 1138.89 'Kay should be able to get it now. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1142.72 1145.02 'Kay, why don't you move just to the next slide right away. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1146 1147.59 You wanna go to the next slide? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1147.59 1148 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1157.17 1168 And I think we should show this prototype to people from various age and socio-economic groups and see about any fine tuning that maybe little things we haven't thought of. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1168 1172.68 We can't accept every suggestion of course, but maybe we just need to get a few. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1175.52 1183.56 we don't s want somebody to suddenly come to us and tell us that this button is toxic and you know some child will swallow it and then we won't sell any. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1190.64 1193.88 we think it's good, we're gonna get behind it and sell it. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1193.88 1195.35 Um, next slide please. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1146.88 1148.46 Yeah right away. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1186.28 1190.64 And then after that we just have to go with our best intuition and you know we like it,
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1148.46 1157.17 Okay, well uh obviously my method for uh s m the marketing of this thing is first to ask the big question, will it sell? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1172.68 1175.52 And show the the prototype to consumer research groups 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1183.56 1186.28 So we have to get some input from those people. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1165.35 1165.86 Okay. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1166.99 1167.45 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1171.27 1171.58 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1180.33 1180.79 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1183.1 1183.43 Mm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1185.85 1186.18 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1222.39 1226.86 even though it's gonna be hard plastic, it feels good in your hand so that's nice. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1232.07 1241.24 So paradoxically the other features, in other words, the look, the feel um and the shape, that's what people are gonna get in the store. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1241.24 1243.44 They don't have a television in the store, they can't play with it. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1216.44 1222.39 We wanted the feel to be as soft as possible, we'll have the soft buttons and the way this is shaped,
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1212.83 1216.44 The size is small, the colour's bright and warm which is what we wanted. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1209.28 1212.83 I wanted it to be comfy and roundy so we we've got that. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1205.14 1209.28 I wanted the shape to be biomorphic, I didn't want anything with angles and all square 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1226.86 1232.07 And functionality I put last on my list because people aren't going to use it before they buy it. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1197.81 1205.14 Okay, now the things that I was thinking and th my wish list has really been realised in this prototype. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1220.78 1221.14 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1238.78 1240.32 Fee selling. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1240.75 1241.19 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1243.4 1243.75 Yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1243.74 1244.05 Yes. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1260.43 1263.01 That's really, really excellent shape. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1273.41 1279.67 I think that it's I think that it's plenty small enough to sell but I think we're sort of right the scale is one to seven. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1263.01 1273.41 The size is small um and th these points are in the importance for the, for the marketing, these aren't i in how I feel. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1279.67 1284.08 I think we're sort of right in the middle as far as c other competitors. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1243.78 1246.58 Um so they'll be our main selling points. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1254.17 1260.43 Okay, so um the shape um I think is a a one. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1246.58 1254.17 So um th those have been fulfilled by your prototype and go ahead to the next slide please. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1281.81 1282.78 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1286.2 1289.75 The colours are bright and warm and we really do great job there. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1284.56 1286.2 And our colour I think is great. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1295.52 1300.9 And then functionality um I think you did a really good job on functionality 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1300.9 1310.14 obviously we could have ad added different functions but then we'd disturb something else so I would say that we got to a five out of seven on on functionality. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1289.75 1295.52 And given um the constraints that we had I think we got it as soft as possible. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1310.14 1313.79 So I think that basically we've got a great product and we can get off and running with it. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1310.22 1310.65 Okay. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1310.32 1310.65 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1314.07 1314.26 Yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1314.19 1317.83 Um I just realised one thing. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1317.83 1321.8 In the financing there was no room for our voice recogniser. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1317.47 1317.85 Yes. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1322.5 1323.15 Yes. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1322.64 1323.04 Ah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1323.32 1323.67 Yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1324.29 1331.81 And uh I don't know how we can evaluate that or how we can include that, too. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1331.43 1335.82 Well, um we had what, eight eight euros twenty as our cost? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1335.54 1337.11 Eight, eight twenty, yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1336.75 1337.65 Eight twenty so 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1337.3 1341.07 And so we've got we've still got four euros to go to spend. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1338.22 1340.9 We have um four euros, yeah 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1341.16 1346.16 I mean maximum we have another four point three euros I mean four thirty. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1344.32 1344.61 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1346.02 1348.3 Well um that's 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1347.67 1355.22 But I mean we have no way of presenting that to management as you know as a f finished 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1355.22 1360.83 as a finished product and saying okay with the voice recogniser that costs so much. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1360.89 1361.32 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1366.54 1370.85 I mean and know whether the four thirty will really cover that. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1362.02 1366.54 So um we just have to beware of that. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1366.77 1367.24 Yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1371.5 1379.39 Well as we know in today's technic technological world you can do just about anything at any price, the the the problem is quality. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1391.03 1394.88 As we've seen with so many of these kinds of products. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1379.39 1383.51 So we're just gonna have to settle for whatever quality that will buy us. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1383.51 1391.03 And um it may not be the greatest quality but it may sell anyway. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1371.67 1371.88 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1379.2 1380.77 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1381.86 1383.15 Yeah, yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1382.5 1383.56 Yes, yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1389.53 1390.31 Yeah, still. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1389.87 1390.16 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1392 1392.15 Yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1409.07 1410.86 So to beware of that. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1394.88 1407.79 I'm sorry to interrupt then but I just uh recog I just remembered that there was no that that was not um included uh that there was no room for any special features 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1410.86 1413.28 You wanna go to this next slide, marketing expert? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1407.79 1409.07 okay? 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1402.4 1403.46 Included, yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1405.81 1407.42 Hmm, hmm 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1407.28 1407.66 Yeah mm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1415.34 1416.07 Maybe. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1416.07 1416.56 Go ahead. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1416.56 1418.44 I think that was my last slide, yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1418.44 1419.42 Um. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1412.52 1415.34 Uh, well I isn't this my last slide? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1415.4 1416.54 I dunno. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1416.54 1417.8 Yes it is. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1417.8 1418.15 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1422.74 1423.65 Mm okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1425.96 1429.34 And I'm supposed to present this scale on the whiteboard. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1429.34 1435.89 Um and we're supposed to talk about those things as a team now, so if you put my last slide back up there. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1436.69 1436.96 Oh. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1438.17 1442.41 I'm sorry I've um forgot to do that, um. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1442.55 1442.86 Why? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1442.86 1444.28 Wh why you need that up? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1446.12 1446.6 Hmm? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1446.6 1448.94 Well because I can't remember what I put on there. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1449.61 1453.1 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1453.1 1456.11 Now I'm supposed to see how long my leash is here. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1456.22 1457.36 I think you can make it there. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1457.61 1458.53 Mm 'kay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1463.95 1467.89 Um okay so on shape 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1460.5 1463.95 So now we're all supposed to say what we think. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1459.37 1460.5 You ready. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1472.27 1473.41 I gave it a one. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1474.8 1479.45 Wait what would you ra uh one being good and seven being the worst. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1479.45 1482.44 Um what do you think the shape is? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1482.44 1484.97 One, okay, and Be Betsy? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1478.47 1479.31 Worse, okay. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1482 1482.3 One. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1485.05 1486.64 Yes I think uh shape is one. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1486.66 1489.36 Yeah, even my yeah, shape is one. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1486.83 1490.6 Okay, uh-huh one, okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1490.6 1492.73 And how about on size? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1496.76 1497.85 On size 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1497.56 1498.86 You you gave it a four. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1498.63 1501.78 I gave it a four, yeah, I feel it's just average. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1502.47 1503.89 Um, I dunno. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1505.16 1506.99 I think I would give it at least a two. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1507.16 1507.69 Okay. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1509.75 1510.09 One. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1510.94 1511.4 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1513.64 1514.41 It's quite small. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1511.75 1513.64 Yeah, even I think it is one. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1513.38 1514.79 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1514.79 1520.66 Okay you're the designer, of course you wanna give it a one. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1520.66 1523.23 Um and then how about how we doing on colour? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1525.96 1527.25 Colour uh I 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1526.68 1528.19 Colour, I gave it a one. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1528.19 1530.59 I really like all those nice bright, warm colours. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1528.1 1528.4 One. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1529.88 1531.57 I I like the colours. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1531.57 1531.99 One. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1532.02 1532.2 Yes. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1531.22 1532.02 One. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1531.83 1532.3 One. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1532.66 1533.42 Yeah, one. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1534.05 1536.17 One, one, one, okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1536.17 1538.39 And how about the feel? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1541.26 1546.8 Taking into um consideration texture and comfort in the hand. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1547.76 1549.71 Uh, I think I would give it a two. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1554.1 1554.62 Three. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1550.51 1554.1 Okay, I gave it a three, two, yeah? 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1553.05 1553.81 I'll give three. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1555.7 1557.56 Uh maybe two, yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1556.87 1557.89 Two, okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1559.19 1566.91 And the next is functionality where I I admit I was a little hard on our team here, but 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1569.22 1577.88 Well it's also you can't really try it out uh the other things you have have more is are more tangible so from that point of view but um 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1571.89 1572.41 Yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1575.02 1575.5 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1580.88 1582.04 I'll give it a three. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1582.23 1583.4 Okay. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1586.28 1586.43 Two. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1586.86 1587.75 Two, okay. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1588.69 1590.19 Uh three, mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1589.55 1590.53 Three? 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1592 1592.62 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1594.32 1595.57 Well, um. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1613.62 1619.1 But um otherwise I think we're we're ready to go to go with this product. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1598.03 1601.56 It looks like we've got got ourselves a pretty good product. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1601.56 1613.62 Um the functionality's the only place where maybe we have to think about m m maybe, heaven forbid, having another meeting. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1611.6 1612.79 Yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1620.68 1625.01 Anybody else have any other comments or any other things that we feel we should evaluate? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1630.43 1630.87 Uh. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1637.65 1644.17 Here is what we looking at uh satisfaction on for example room for creativity. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1645.44 1646.35 Um. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1649.81 1653.91 Is there more room for creativity or are we absolutely happy? 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1655.33 1656.06 Maybe we can 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1655.36 1657.24 We can always improve, yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1661.06 1663.42 We can make the buttons few buttons smaller. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1663.42 1672.06 Uh I think they are quite big, so I think I I mean we can just have small buttons and more buttons in that case. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1656.82 1661.06 yeah, include some more buttons and uh um yeah features. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1672.06 1674.6 If we want to have more features than that. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1658.69 1659.78 Yes, features. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1674.44 1674.79 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1695.98 1702.93 And um then maybe we can do something with the um 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1687.75 1695.98 So that that's where we're gonna have to do maybe we can eliminate one of the mute buttons, instead of having two mute buttons. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1676.42 1687.75 Well then again if we're gonna um do the speech recognition thing we're gon there gonna be some buttons that are gonna have to be added for that for the recording of the the speech. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1681.21 1681.52 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1684.04 1685.17 Yeah, definitely. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1684.79 1685.36 Yes. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1687.27 1687.9 Voices. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1687.52 1687.74 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1693.38 1696.63 Yeah, definitely, yeah, two mu mute buttons. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1693.91 1694.5 Yes. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1695.75 1695.98 Yes. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1704.25 1705.35 the volume control. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1705.35 1707.89 Maybe we can put that all on one button. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1708.39 1708.79 Hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1709.18 1718.04 Um and a couple of other th maybe comp uh consolidate some of the usage an and see what we can do with that. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1718.32 1718.41 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1733.41 1743.95 Uh um we need uh you know we need to leave space money-wise for the voice recogniser. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1727.4 1733.41 with this particular item, we probably can't just uh add a whole lot of more things. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1718.58 1727.4 Y um al always bearing in mind that right now we are of course well within the budget and that we still you know we probably can't,
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1719.06 1720.54 And maybe 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1722.84 1723.16 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1732.91 1733.29 No. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1733.97 1734.38 Yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1741.45 1741.77 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1744.16 1744.55 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1744.56 1744.66 Yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1745.52 1746.61 Um. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1745.56 1745.91 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1754.38 1766.58 Uh, um are we happy with the creativity that has passed here or we're not happy with the new product we created or that was created? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1749.86 1754.38 So th the question really is how do we feel with the project process? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1768.06 1771.43 Uh I think personally I think uh I'm pretty happy. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1771.7 1775.76 I'm pretty happy with it too, yeah um, it's something I think I can market. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1775.76 1775.98 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1772.49 1773.31 Even I'm happy. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1772.58 1774.01 Um an 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1775.25 1775.52 Yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1776.13 1782.16 and then the next question is are we happy with the leadership of this project? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1782.16 1782.81 Uh 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1782.13 1786.97 I think you've done a good job, Miss leader. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1784.02 1786.68 Yes, yes you've done a good job. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1784.37 1786.46 Yeah, yeah, definitely. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1785.86 1791.68 And I think team work I think was very very good, I think we really yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1792.74 1793.02 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1789.81 1792.74 Yeah I d I do too I think we worked well together as a team, yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1790.06 1790.35 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1791.05 1791.37 Yeah. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1792.54 1792.94 Yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1792.57 1793.29 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1793.98 1798.99 And uh I think we are we happy with the means we used? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1798.99 1803.15 We used whiteboard, we didn't use digital p well digital pens I guess are these things. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1803.22 1808.11 Yeah maybe we could've used the whiteboard a little bit more, yeah, we didn't use that enough. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1804.93 1807.86 Whiteboard more, yes, yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1806.36 1807.57 Yeah, probably. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1809.27 1822.01 it's maybe not in the best position in the room um you know like sometimes it's positioned so that it's much better visible for everybody and I think from that point of view we sort of ignored it a little bit. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1808.64 1809.27 Uh 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1807.45 1808.64 Yes, we could. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1818.26 1818.72 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1822.05 1824.21 And we used the slide because it was better positioned. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1822.31 1822.78 Yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1831.35 1834.41 Um did we new did we find new ideas? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1823.03 1831.35 Yes, I think so, I think absolutely, and fortunately we all had slides presentation which made it a little easier. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1834.41 1835.27 I think we did. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1824.41 1824.71 Yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1824.98 1825.13 No. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1825.37 1826.7 Mm I think that's true mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1830.44 1830.72 Hmm. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1830.94 1831.38 Yes. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1830.94 1831.3 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1835.4 1836.77 Yeah, many. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1835.45 1837.98 I think we were we were very good, yeah, mm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1837.27 1844.71 I think we we did, uh in more than one respect and uh so I think we did very well here. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1840.43 1841 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1846.51 1846.73 Okay. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1852.32 1853.67 Yes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1849.47 1852.32 Uh is the project evaluated? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1847.19 1848.48 Are the costs within budget? 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1853.67 1858.61 Um then celebration. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1848.48 1849.47 Yes, yes. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1851.9 1852.6 Yes, yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1853.09 1853.39 Yeah. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1858.96 1865.54 Today we have apple juice and after we sell m million of 'em we have champagne. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1853.74 1858.96 Celebration. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1854.98 1858.49 Cel celebration yes, yes. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1855.9 1858.84 Ah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1864.64 1867.76 So I I thank you all very much. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1867.76 1871.53 Um, I think this was very good and um 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1869.94 1870.51 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1870.05 1870.45 Yeah. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1872.72 1876.69 I think we did come up with a new product that's uh feasible. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1876.69 1880.86 Feasible from the production point of view and feasible from a marketing point of view. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1876.62 1876.9 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1880.74 1880.95 Mm-hmm. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1882.8 1884.12 So, thank you. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1883.01 1883.25 Okay. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1883.61 1883.76 Yeah. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1884.29 1884.86 Thank you. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1884.33 1885.21 Thank you very much. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1884.76 1886.46 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1889.3 1889.53 Okay. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1886.46 1889.3 Watch I I have my cord behind you here. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1888.25 1888.7 Okay. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1894.21 1896.6 I always get it on here, but getting it off is 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1896.56 1898.82 Do we do we have some time left? 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1901.11 1902.91 Uh you have 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1902.92 1904.02 They say it's forty minutes. 
IS1009d H00 FIE088 1904.79 1905.98 Ah yes we have time later but we don't 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1905.01 1911.79 But we we were told we could end the final meeting at any time, whenever we felt we were finished. 
IS1009d H01 FIO087 1908.84 1909.11 Okay. 
IS1009d H02 FIO084 1909.08 1909.69 Oh, alright. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1918.56 1921.97 It'll take me the rest of the time to get my microphone out from my necklace. 
IS1009d H03 FIO089 1925.17 1925.75 Oh, there we go. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 21.25 23.32 Yeah? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 26.29 27.18 So 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 19.55 21.25 Is everybody sitting on the right place? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 13.46 16.73 So uh good morning. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 23.32 26.29 I guess so. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 16.73 19.55 I see you all find your places. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 15.34 15.56 Morning. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 15.37 15.81 Morning. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 16.42 16.7 Morning. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 19.67 20.03 Yep. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 32.64 33.36 Let's see. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 35.95 38.09 First I will introduce myself. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 42.74 43.81 Hello. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 44.41 45.35 Hello. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 38.09 42.74 I don't know if uh if everybody knows me, so I'm Bart, hello. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 43.81 44.41 Bart. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 45.9 47.03 Bart. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 47.03 48.42 Welcome. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 45.35 45.9 Hello. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 40.79 41.49 My name's Frank. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 42.99 43.62 I'm. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 48.1 48.44 Thank you. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 50.14 54.15 Uh let's see. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 54.15 58.01 Uh let's start off um with a little presentation. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 62.27 62.92 Uh 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 94.24 99.19 There are some notes in it already I see, some documents. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 90.14 94.24 So is there a project documents folder? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 65.58 68.34 Now first I'll tell you a little bit about the setting. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 70.37 77.97 They'll record uh our actions and you'll have wires and microphones that will record your voice. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 68.34 70.37 You can see there are a few cameras here. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 77.97 84.16 Uh there are also some microphones there but th um you don't have to pay a lot of attention on those 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 99.19 101.45 Uh I'll start with the presentation kick off. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 84.16 90.14 because it will uh disappear when you don't attend to it. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 112.06 113.75 Let's do it read only. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 109.68 112.06 Uh okay. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 106.87 109.68 Is being modified by the administrator. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 109.47 113.53 Hmm, that's interesting. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 134.76 138.65 I'm Bart the project manager so I'll direct you through the project. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 116.66 122.27 Well I don't know if you've noticed, but uh we're working for Real Reaction. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 125.29 134.76 We put fashion in electronics, uh we make it work, uh we put a lot of effort in design and in the product itself. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 122.27 125.29 Uh it's a company in uh electronics. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 140.63 141.77 This is our agenda. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 142.9 147.71 Uh we have our opening acquaintance, tool training, project plan description closing. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 149.66 159.02 Uh maybe I can sit down, then I can take some notes or Let's see. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 161.34 164.42 Maybe you can take the minutes once in a while. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 175.25 179.17 Aquaintance is a point we've done a bit. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 171.36 175.25 Uh as you can see uh it's the opening, aquaintance tool training. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 183.14 184.23 Yeah. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 164.42 171.36 I dunno it's not a lot of work, but just uh if you hear something uh you can write down, just write it down. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 189.49 190.52 No? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 187.01 189.49 I think I found one. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 179.17 183.14 Um have you all seen the corporate website already? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 184.23 187.01 Have you seen any flaws in it? 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 163.72 164 Sure. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 183.07 183.53 Visit it. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 182.45 183.07 Yep. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 182.69 182.86 Yep. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 189.69 189.83 Hmm? 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 190.89 192.67 Can't say I paid much attention to it, but 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 193.52 193.96 I can 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 203.35 212.74 But um on the corporate information side there's a th uh there was Real Remote instead of Real Reaction. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 246.29 252.14 And Industrial Designer uh there's also user friendly and a bit original. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 227.35 231.13 It has to be original, trendy, and user friendly. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 212.74 219.34 Real Remote is not really the company we're we are, but it's just a little fault. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 200.54 203.35 Okay no problem. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 231.13 238.11 So these are uh the points why uh we also hired you. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 223.35 227.35 Uh our project aim is as you can see a new remote control. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 238.11 246.29 We've got the Marketing Expert for uh the trendy and user friendly look. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 219.34 223.35 Um okay, what are we going to do? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 196.05 197.53 see if it works this way. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 197.53 200.54 No, it doesn't work here. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 212.16 212.68 Oh yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 216.48 216.79 Yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 216.09 216.48 Okay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 238.31 238.61 Okay. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 257.76 258.99 He's also uh 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 252.98 257.76 And we've got our User Interface Designer. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 257.2 257.32 Yep. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 260.37 262.06 That's about the new remote control. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 270.89 275.68 First is functional des uh design, individual work, meetings. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 263.16 270.89 Uh project method um is uh there are three phases we are going through. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 275.68 279.92 After the functional design, then the conceptual design and the detailed design. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 281.13 286.83 I had some role indications on here. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 321.89 324.73 So that's a bit what you're going to do. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 288.19 291.77 But I think you know it already by yourself. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 301.24 311.02 Uh the User Interface Designer is going to do the technical function design, user interface concept and user interface design. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 311.02 321.89 And the marketing expert is doing a little bit of user requirement specification, trend watching and project uh product ev evaluation. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 324.73 328.16 But that will be all worked out in uh other meetings. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 291.77 301.24 The Industrial Designer is going to work on the working design, uh components design and a bit of the look and feel design. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 342.63 348.7 As you can see we've got the smart boards here and here in the white board. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 332.18 335.24 Then we've got our first tool training. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 348.7 355.79 Um in the white board here there's a little tool bar on this side. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 357.9 362.51 N uh these functions we don't have anything to do with, only undo, you can undo a little 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 355.79 356.82 Here are some functions. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 356.82 357.9 You can save. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 335.24 342.63 We are going to work with a lot of high-tech tools here, so it's ab it's handy if we have a little bit of training first. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 378.67 380.05 This pen. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 380.05 389.28 It's really funny because you can draw with it on this page um in the think it is form of. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 389.28 393.05 You can also select the current colour and the line width. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 365.63 368.97 A blank new document for each person. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 371.44 374.23 Capture we don't have to do anything with. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 374.23 378.67 Uh then we've got our pen. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 400.11 402.61 So okay. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 402.61 408.73 Uh that's very simple and it's easy to uh draw your findings and drawings on there. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 393.05 396.73 But then first you have to select the pen function. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 368.97 371.44 Uh select a pen, eraser. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 363.9 365.63 uh piece of drawing. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 396.73 400.11 But we're going to work with it in a minute. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 380.19 380.66 'Kay. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 392.63 392.76 Hmm. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 409.65 410.81 Uh then 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 412.4 415.13 a short thing about documents. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 428.95 436.97 And these are available on the smart boards as well, so if you have a document you wanna show, just open it from the folder. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 419.35 422.79 Project documents I think. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 415.13 419.35 We've got our shared folder, uh project project what was it? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 422.79 428.95 But all you will found that already because there are a lot of documents in it already, so it will be okay. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 435.26 435.65 Okay. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 436.27 436.38 Yeah. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 447.51 449.47 You can switch between the different drawings. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 439.41 440.97 Here is a simple tool bar. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 440.97 447.51 It's what I just said, it's save, print, move back or forward one page. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 452.64 454.79 And then we're going to try out the white board. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 455.92 461.19 So as you can see we g all going to draw a animal. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 461.19 467.85 Just to uh uh just to get a bit familiar with it. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 467.85 469.32 Mouse wasn't running away. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 469.28 470.06 That was interesting. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 471.33 473.51 Is everybody is anybody playing with the mouse? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 473.51 473.94 No. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 475.34 477.21 We're going to uh draw animal. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 473.94 475.34 Okay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 473.11 475.78 Innocent. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 477.93 483.67 And uh just sum up a few of its favourite characteristics. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 496.07 497.87 I will. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 492.13 496.07 Uh there's I can start from now. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 501.77 508.01 Because if you hold it like this, the sensors will get blocked and then the drawing won't get good. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 497.87 501.77 You can use this pen by holding it like a like a little child. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 483.67 492.13 Um the only thing we have to uh look after is that we use different colours, and different line width. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 506.21 506.56 Okay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 506.74 506.93 'Kay. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 528.98 529.9 Then the line width. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 518.95 528.98 So we choose form of current colour uh I think grey is appropriate. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 535.02 538.63 Now you'll see my drawing capabilities. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 529.9 535.02 I think seven will be nice. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 513.66 518.95 'Cause if you're going to draw like really fast then um the pen won't hold up. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 509.3 513.66 Another thing is you have to be uh a bit slow. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 538.63 541.93 These are not very much, but uh 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 543.62 545.79 Uh, see you have to do it real slow. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 554.37 555.6 Oh 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 569.8 570.19 Sure. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 571.13 578 Ah I was trying to draw a dolphin, but I think his nose has to be a little bit But it's close. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 577.62 578.92 I'm thinking about a swordfish. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 579.62 582.04 So what yeah it's this is bit of the swordfish. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 582.04 583.3 Yeah, he hasn't got an eye. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 580.47 580.63 Yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 579.9 580.47 Yeah. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 583.64 585.16 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 587.75 590.63 We've got the eraser. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 584.94 586.54 Woah. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 590.63 591.97 And then you can undo 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 586.54 587.75 Now we've got another function. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 593.54 595.76 this easily. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 595.66 595.97 Meat. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 598.78 604.29 And I've got to write down a few of its characteristics. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 596.84 598.78 Ah it's okay. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 604.29 607.44 Uh is 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 612.41 614.69 They've got no text tool, no. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 617.55 617.71 Uh. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 630.66 636.77 This is typically a undo action, I think. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 636.77 637.6 Pen. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 627.18 630.66 Okay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 633.99 635.41 Yeah. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 639.89 641.07 Maybe you have to hold it a bit 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 643 644.08 upside-down. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 644.08 650.73 I think that's it because if you wan ar are going to do it like this then it will be a stripe. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 650.73 653.19 But I don't know, I'm just trying. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 655.68 661.82 This is not my work, okay. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 661.82 663.2 Maybe you have to use 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 661.22 661.5 Hmm. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 670.81 671.26 Oh. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 689.29 689.8 I don't know. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 684.57 684.84 Uh. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 684.84 689.29 I think it's a it wants to draw a another animal? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 691.57 693.19 It lives for the fun. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 694.96 695.79 So 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 700.24 703.19 It's my characteristic uh characteristic about the dolphin. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 703.19 704.77 It lives for the fun. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 704.77 711.94 So now I'm gonna hand over the pen on the new blank sheet to you. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 711.94 714.07 Go ahead. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 704.56 705.04 Okay. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 704.99 705.28 Okay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 712.06 712.46 Thank you. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 714.35 716.29 Okay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 721.27 722.5 Gonna use a different line width. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 724.63 726.13 And I'm gonna draw in black. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 729.64 732.28 There. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 732.28 735.84 'Kay, I'm not much of an artist, but here we go. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 748.38 751.26 Because this is going a lot better than uh I did. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 743.56 748.38 Maybe it's easier to draw the smaller line width, I think. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 748.2 748.37 Hmm. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 767.04 767.47 A sheep. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 783.14 783.53 Mm. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 801.39 805.4 Okay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 805.4 808.33 This is my um Hmm. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 812.21 812.59 Sheep. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 818.22 819.83 It's nice. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 820.5 821.63 With of course 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 829.94 833.2 little blue dot they always get sprayed on their butts. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 830.05 830.49 Uh. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 833.96 836.69 It's a real dead sheep, yeah. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 836.69 840.81 For recognition, yeah, I see. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 835.07 835.66 There. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 836.51 837.41 Yeah. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 845.51 846.28 On just a 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 843.07 845.51 Um maybe you can also write your name somewhere. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 843.57 843.8 'Kay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 846.48 847.05 They are 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 849.35 849.77 Come on. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 858.82 860.49 You have to go really slow when you're writing. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 861.61 862.42 Yeah. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 879.44 881.44 They're brilliant animal animals. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 881.44 883.16 And that's just a little me thingy. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 884.45 884.76 So. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 888.55 891.91 Guess I'll pass the pen to our User Interface Designer. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 889.6 890.86 Okay. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 890.86 895.95 Um I'm just gonna draw its uh head, but mm 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 889.79 890.21 Nice. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 897.9 898.39 Let's see. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 903.08 903.22 Mm. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 915.22 915.55 Uh. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 965.89 967.52 Okay. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 968.16 972.27 Sweet. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 968.53 968.9 Interesting. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 971.52 972.4 Yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 972.4 973.52 You know what that is? 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 975.03 975.36 Or who? 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 976.67 977.31 Garfield. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 977.31 977.6 Yeah. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 975.5 976.67 A rabbit? 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 975.72 976.31 Garfield. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 976.5 977.61 Ah okay, yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 978.48 978.94 Just a 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 983.17 983.96 Mm. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 983.96 984.3 Guess. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 986.52 988.03 So uh 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 990.99 991.54 That's enough. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 990.18 990.99 Yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 993.06 995.39 Um, you say a blank, or 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 994.96 996.66 Yeah, just a blank sheet. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 996.39 997.03 Okay. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1009.34 1014.47 Well I was gonna draw a cat too, so. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1018.12 1020.6 Something different than Garfield. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1014.47 1018.12 I'll just try something else. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1017.51 1017.69 No. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1039.83 1042.46 Mine is a bit more skinny. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1041.11 1043.51 Yeah, it's pretty skinny cat. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1041.64 1042.33 Yeah. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1042.56 1045.53 But uh 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1045.68 1047 And the most interesting tail. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1048.55 1052.83 Is your cat, or did you find him on the street? 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1059.71 1061.18 I like cats because uh 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1056.9 1059.71 Well, it's supposed to be a cat. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1064.07 1064.56 they are uh 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1067.52 1068.2 independent. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1071.46 1072.07 Ah. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1074.9 1075.25 The pen. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1080.77 1081.07 So. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1088.18 1095.08 So if you have any ideas or if you wanna draw anything on the white board, just ask and go ahead. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1084.95 1088.18 So everybody knows how to work with the white board now? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1083.74 1084.95 That's pretty clear. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1095.08 1096.79 It's pretty uh easy. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1081.6 1083.74 Okay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1088.79 1089.21 Yeah. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1090.49 1090.83 The pen. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1109.9 1110.14 We 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1098.96 1101.75 'Kay. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1106.77 1109.9 So we've got the tool uh introduction. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1101.75 1106.77 S haunted white board. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1102.15 1102.98 We're being haunted. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1126.48 1129.46 Uh our profit aim is fifty million Euros. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1147.17 1151.43 Um but that's all in the later stadium. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1115.06 1124.3 Um as you can see, we um for our remote control, a selling price is uh twenty five Euros. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1124.3 1126.48 Our selling price. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1111.25 1115.06 move along to the project finance. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1137.75 1147.17 Uh we can do it international, so we have to focus on different kind of users, different kind of cultures, and different kind of trends as well. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1129.46 1137.75 Uh that's the least we have to get from our remote controls, so we have to work together to reach our aims. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1173.94 1183.93 Selling price twenty five, profit aims fifty million um, but more important is the int international market we're trying to focus on. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1170.6 1173.94 So just try to remember these points. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1152.33 1159.33 Our production cost um can be maximal twelve and a half Euros,
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1159.33 1168.83 so that's also a point we have to keep in mind, that we won't make remote controls with small televisions inside, and stuff like that. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1183.93 1187.7 And production cost uh maximal twelve and a half Euros. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1168.83 1170.6 It won't work. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1201.4 1204.42 It's easier. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1206.22 1206.98 Five minutes. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1189.48 1192.75 So that's leads us to our little discussion. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1197.83 1201.4 So I'm gonna sit down, I think. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1192.75 1197.83 We've got about five or ten minutes left for discussion. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1204.42 1206.22 I've got a message. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1206.98 1211.18 Okay, that's uh good timing. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1201.97 1202.96 Yeah, you got a message. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1206.96 1208.02 Five minutes, okay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1210.06 1214.14 So just on a side note, why is it my laptop is only giving me a black screen? 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1214.55 1214.74 Mm? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1215.19 1219.52 Uh maybe you have to say the magic word. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1219.55 1219.9 Right. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1217.9 1219.55 Yeah. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1221.07 1222.08 Does it do anything? 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1222.74 1222.99 No. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1223.42 1225.53 Maybe you have to just clap it down? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1228.28 1229.14 Mm back up again. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1235.68 1235.96 Hmm. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1233.96 1235.68 No slide show. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1236.11 1236.67 It's off now. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1237.33 1237.99 It's off. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1239.48 1241.02 You'll be okay, I think. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1237.99 1239.48 Now you have to put it back o Oh yeah. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1240.53 1241.59 Well, it was on, but 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1243.81 1246.49 Well it's those laptops. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1247.08 1247.79 Ah, there we are. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1262.51 1265.55 Like you can use for other? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1248.38 1249.1 Nice. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1265.55 1267.17 No? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1267.17 1267.46 You? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1249.1 1249.98 Okay. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1249.98 1262.51 But so mm does everybody has um experiences with uh remote controls, and I mean not the ordinary mote controls, but also a little bit different ones? 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1261.99 1262.32 Mm. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1264.36 1264.74 Oh really? 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1266.08 1266.21 Huh. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1267.46 1268.2 Well, we have a 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1267.78 1268.43 No, me neither. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1267.79 1268.75 It's a 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1269.09 1275.08 kind of broad T. V. at home, and a D. V. D. player, so we got like a lot of remote controls,
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1280.3 1284.42 And I think it's it would be best to just make one remote control that can operate them all. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1275.08 1280.3 one for the T. V., one for the video recorder, one for the D. V. D. player. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1279.05 1279.58 Ah yeah. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1308.68 1317.16 So that's pretty handy when you have a video recorder or D. V. D. player downstairs and you've got a link to your T. V. on the second floor. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1296.53 1303.26 And it also operates on infra-red, so you have to got the little device inside your room 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1317.16 1318.93 So that's a pretty handy um 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1284.68 1285.64 Yep. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1287.77 1296.53 And you can uh program I think eight different devices in it, and you can use it for your television, anything else. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1303.26 1308.68 and then you can operate it from the third or th or second floor. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1285.64 1287.77 Yeah I've I've got one at home. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1286.22 1286.42 Yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1285.04 1286.22 Sure. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1294.79 1295.8 Okay, yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1295.8 1296.01 Yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1306.35 1307.51 Okay, yeah. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1308.08 1308.52 Oh really. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1308.88 1309.18 Hmm. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1313.86 1313.94 Oh. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1316.76 1316.98 Yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1317.12 1317.64 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1320.19 1320.53 thing. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1321.39 1324.6 Um but only the 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1334.01 1334.81 It's uh 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1325.68 1334.01 I think that if you can put different kind of devices in one remote control, it makes it a lot easier as well. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1334.2 1334.43 Yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1335.11 1335.24 Oh. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1336.45 1337.57 That's good to remember. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1337.75 1339.67 So I think you can take minutes again. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1339.89 1342.5 Yeah, that's nice, I think. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1342.5 1344.82 So we've we want different functions 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1341.55 1342.4 Since it's your job. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1346.08 1346.31 Yeah. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1346.76 1354.2 uh and we can maybe see if we can do something with the infra-red. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1357.2 1360.21 So that uh that's something we have to find out, I think. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1354.2 1357.2 But I don't know if that will exceed the production costs. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1357.36 1357.58 Mm. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1360.5 1361.38 Yeah. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1361.38 1364.78 But that would be really good if we could do that. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1365.91 1368.93 And other functions for a remote control? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1370.4 1373.29 Maybe we can make it uh uh 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1371.08 1371.55 Um. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1371.45 1371.8 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1374.24 1375.34 Think it has to be shock proof 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1376.04 1376.71 Sure, yeah. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1376.63 1376.89 'cause 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1377.25 1378.06 Shock proof. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1378.4 1380.45 my remote control tends to fall a lot. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1379.77 1381.1 Waterproof, or uh 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1381.02 1382.74 Sure. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1381.86 1382.24 So 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1382.19 1384.94 Uh, you never no know uh, I w I mean uh 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1386.87 1387.63 Waterproof. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1390.19 1395 So these are our um a few things we can think of. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1395 1400.3 Um I will put the minutes from this meeting uh in our project folder. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1389.76 1390.19 Okay. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1401.33 1401.52 'Kay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1403.81 1407.63 Thought it might be handy to put a battery status display on it. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1401.49 1403.81 Yeah, one other little thing. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1408.75 1409.4 So you can see 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1408.77 1410.4 That's a battery stays. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1410.37 1411.23 Okay, yeah. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1410.85 1412.13 how much is left in the battery. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1414.32 1419.94 But they'll also really drag up the production costs, so think we'll have to see about that too. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1418.64 1418.95 Yeah. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1420.32 1420.56 Mm. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1421.57 1421.73 Uh. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1422.16 1424.37 But maybe just a little LED, I don't know. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1425.62 1427.26 That's an idea as well. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1427.26 1427.92 Other ideas? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1429.28 1429.88 Quick ideas. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1430.42 1431.5 Nope. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1431.5 1432.56 They were all mentioned, so 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1431.86 1432.06 Mm. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1433.28 1436.8 Any questions about this uh presentation? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1432.47 1433.28 Okay. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1436.8 1437.93 Kick off presentation. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1432.6 1432.77 Yeah. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1438.47 1438.89 Um. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1440.83 1441.79 Nope, don't think so. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1442.45 1442.62 No? 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1443.76 1447.9 Okay, then I'll put the minutes from this meeting in the project folder, 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1449.35 1450.48 and then we can all work. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1455.18 1459.55 And we can all work uh on our own projects. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1454.05 1455.18 Okay. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1451.74 1454.05 Finish meeting now. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1453.73 1454.08 Okay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1455.29 1455.82 Aye sir. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1468.18 1474.55 Okay then I'll meet you in about a half an hour, I think. 
TS3003a H00 MTD009PM 1474.55 1476.39 So good luck. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1472.02 1472.5 Half an hour. 
TS3003a H02 MTD0010ID 1474.04 1474.3 Okay. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1475.42 1475.55 Yep. 
TS3003a H01 MTD011UID 1474.21 1475.42 Okay. 
TS3003a H03 MTD012ME 1474.28 1475.26 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 61.24 63.7 That's nice. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 60.02 61.24 Yeah? 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 67.77 71 And uh still failing? 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 57.51 60.02 Everybody found his place again? 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 63.7 67.77 Okay so this is our second meeting. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 57.11 57.51 Okay. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 60.55 60.96 Yes. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 71.8 72.11 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 72.76 77.26 Uh now we're going um into the functional design. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 77.26 92.45 Um important thing of this phase is that we're going to uh try to get an agreement about the user requirements, technical function design, and the working design. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 99.59 102.73 Um first an announcement. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 97.19 99.59 But first this phase. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 107.05 107.77 So 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 102.73 107.05 There's a little adaptation in the air conditioning system. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 93.12 97.19 So that we can move onto the second uh phase. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 109.14 112.88 There's our ghost mouse again. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 112.88 120.18 That that means that you can have a little trouble with, little trouble with the air conditioning, that's because of this uh 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 120.38 120.74 Okay. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 121.11 121.48 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 135.84 137.47 Now first the opening. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 134.38 135.84 Then our agenda. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 137.47 139.11 Uh this time I will take the minutes. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 123.39 128.53 So it should be over in a in a while, couple of days. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 121.57 123.39 It's in wing C. and E. . 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 128.53 134.38 But it's going to be cold anyway, so I don't think you're gonna need it. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 132.84 133.18 No. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 157.69 163.54 and then we can have a little discussion about the new project requirements uh which have been sent to me. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 143.75 145.02 All of you. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 153.65 157.69 So uh I suggest we take about seven minutes per presentation 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 145.02 153.65 Um and we've got forty minutes for the whole uh prese for the whole uh presentations. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 140.36 143.75 Uh you're going to have a presentation. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 172.91 175.11 So we've got forty minutes for all of it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 164.39 172.91 And then the decision on the control functions uh which we wanna include and those which we don't wanna include. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 179.47 181.34 Um who wants to be first? 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 175.11 179.47 So I suggest um let's start with the first presentation. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 178.78 179.07 Yes. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 182.76 183.55 Think I'll go first. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 183.74 185.62 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 185.62 186.21 So 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 193.37 197.87 Just which function you have and what you're gonna talk about. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 187.94 193.37 Just maybe it's easier if you um Yeah I think you will tell your presentation as well. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 208.13 209.65 I'm the Market Expert. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 209.65 210.91 But you already knew that. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 206.85 208.13 My name is Freek Van Ponnen. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 206.59 206.85 'Kay. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 212.1 214.26 Um I've done some research. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 214.26 223.02 We have we uh have been doing research in a usability lab where we observed um users operating remote controls. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 225.56 228.22 We had one hundred of these uh test subjects. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 223.02 225.56 Uh we let them fill out a questionnaire. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 229.36 232.2 Uh in addition we did some market research. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 235.26 236.64 What ages are involved. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 232.2 235.26 Uh see what the market consists of. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 247.53 249.63 F uh seventy five percent of the um 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 238.9 244.6 Well these are three quite astonishing results, I thought. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 244.6 247.53 Um remotes are being considered ugly. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 262.85 263.36 So 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 250.97 256.33 people questioned uh indicated that they thought their remote were was ugly. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 256.33 262.85 Um and an additional eighty percent indicated that they would spend more money on a fancy-looking remote control. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 264.67 267.33 Um in addition remotes were not very functional. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 267.33 273.32 Fifty percent of the people indicated they only loo used about ten percent of the buttons on a remote control. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 275.08 279.39 And fifty percent of the people indicated that their remote tended to get lost in their room. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 280.47 280.8 So 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 281.83 282.08 Mm. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 282.33 283.07 some things. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 298.67 301.17 And teletext got a six and a half. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 296.64 298.67 The power button got a nine. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 288.94 296.64 Channel selection and volume selection um both got a ten on a scale of one to ten for relevancy. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 285.33 288.94 Then we did some research to the most relevant functions. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 301.17 302.22 So these are the most 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 309.27 310.87 That's what I like to call them. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 307 309.27 Then there are some one-time use function. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 303.35 307 most uh important functions on a remote control. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 310.87 315.5 That uh audio settings, video settings, and channel settings buttons. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 315.5 320.74 Which are not really used very frequently, but are still considered to be of some importance. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 322.1 327.02 Um channel selection was also indicated to be used very frequently. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 327.02 329.43 One hundred and sixty eight times per hour. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 332.14 335.02 Then these are the This is the market. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 335.02 341.15 Um sixty percent of the market consists of users between the ages sixteen and forty f six. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 342.13 342.73 Um 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 356.37 356.95 So 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 354.38 356.37 They won't spend their money very easily. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 344.14 348.74 Main characteristic of this group is that they're very critical on the remote control. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 348.74 352.85 Um they like to use new f new functions. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 352.85 354.38 But they also are very critical. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 357.86 364.23 Um the users of forty six to sixty five years cons The make up forty percent of the market. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 367.31 369.97 But they do tend to spend their money a lot easier. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 365.24 367.31 They are not really very interested in features. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 373.83 374.38 Um 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 375.35 378.11 What I think this indicates for our um 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 383.36 384.8 And this means we would 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 379.43 380.68 design. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 380.68 383.36 I think we should make a remote for the future. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 386 389.84 um have to focus on the age ages sixteen to forty five. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 390.82 399.38 Uh this also makes up most the biggest part of the market, so that will also be where our main profit would be gettable. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 400.47 403.42 Um this would mean we would have to make a fancy design. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 404.85 405.59 Um 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 406.6 416.14 The results also indicated that um about one quarter of the people questioned thought that the remote control caused R. S. R. S. I. . 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 433.79 436.72 Besides of course that the remote must look very nice. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 429.21 433.79 So these are two factors that I think should be included in the design. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 422.17 429.21 And thirty four percent thought that it was hard to learn a n how to operate a new control, remote control. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 417.57 422.17 Um this is certainly something to take into account. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 438.07 439.33 And the functionality 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 447.27 451.75 Uh this will also be uh beneficial to the design of the remote. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 440.41 447.27 As a lot of people indicated, they only use about ten percent of the buttons, I think we should make very few buttons. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 465.39 466.95 They shouldn't break down easily. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 461.62 465.39 'Cause they're used most and so they should be robust. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 453.27 456.7 Uh I think the most frequently used buttons should be emphasised. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 456.7 461.62 Especially the channel selection and audio uh selection buttons. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 469.16 470.01 Um 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 471.64 478.51 Then as mo as a lot of people indicated that their um remote got lost in the room, it might be 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 489.85 496.29 And this would, could get a button in it which would send a signal to the remote which would then beep. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 479.62 486.78 and I say might be because it would um certainly boost the uh production costs a lot. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 486.78 489.85 But it might be a good idea to make a docking station. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 496.55 498.9 So you'd know where it is in the room. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 498.9 503.92 And in addition to this it could um recharge the batteries in the remote if you put it in. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 505.71 517.11 Then um a surprisingly great deal of people w indicated that um an L. C. D. screen in the remote control would be preferred. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 517.11 518.26 This was um 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 524.36 528.05 But up till forty five it remains feasible. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 528.05 535.74 This would also greatly increase the production costs but I think these are just some small factors we could consider. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 519.58 524.36 mostly people in the age of sixteen to twenty five. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 538.03 538.34 Okay. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 538.59 539.25 That would be all. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 540.04 541.03 Thank you. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 541.03 545.16 So anybody have um any questions until now? 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 544.2 544.9 Any questions? 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 546.16 546.78 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 546.23 548.29 About functional requirements? 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 548.29 549.05 Okay that's clear. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 547.87 548.25 No. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 549.92 551.6 Now to the second. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 550.33 550.53 'Kay. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 567.75 571.17 Um f for the techno f functions uh of of it. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 560.28 561.39 Uh okay. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 571.17 572.73 Um 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 561.39 567.75 Um I've been looking at uh the user interface of it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 567.51 567.66 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 574.62 575.71 Yeah you can take your time. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 575.71 578.6 We've got uh plenty of time, so 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 574.97 575.42 Okay. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 576.96 577.16 Mm? 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 577.41 580.5 Yeah you should go to the top thingy. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 580.5 581.5 Slide show. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 581.5 581.87 Oh yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 578.52 578.91 Oh. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 580.1 580.52 Uh. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 583.19 583.37 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 581.58 582.29 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 582.29 583.19 There it is. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 581.65 581.91 Okay. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 584.44 586.58 Um yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 592.15 609.63 Uh uh I've do I've uh done a little uh research on the internet and not much information about it, Um about uh interface but uh Uh 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 586.58 592.15 I think uh we uh must use the general functions uh of the uh remote control. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 611.58 621.13 Yeah I I've been thinking about a simple manner uh to put a lot of functions uh uh in one um in one uh remote control. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 628.44 629.48 So um 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 621.13 628.44 Uh so uh you've got a lot of devi uh devices like uh D. V. D. uh uh television, uh stereo. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 640.41 643.53 Uh uh uh Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 629.94 633.17 But uh it must be uh user-friendly. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 633.17 640.41 So um uh you c you can't put a a lot of uh functions uh in one uh Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 645.88 646.76 But um 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 643.53 645.88 In one um remote control. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 645.36 646.38 One remote. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 648.55 648.94 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 654.79 663.18 Got uh many functions in one uh remote control, um but um yeah you can see, this is uh quite simple uh remote control. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 651.28 654.79 Um yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 663.54 670.14 Um few uh buttons but uh This uh re uh remote control got a a lot of uh buttons. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 670.14 675.02 Um uh people uh don't like it, uh so um 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 683.47 686.65 So uh like uh the on-off uh button. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 695.96 696.95 Um 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 689.74 695.96 Uh everybody everybody knows it so uh uh you don't have to change that. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 686.65 689.74 Uh keep it uh yeah l like a red button. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 676.08 683.47 Well what uh I was uh thinking about was um uh keep the general functions uh like they are. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 707.06 707.92 So um 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 701.83 707.06 Use a display for uh specific uh functions of the different uh device. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 699.03 701.83 My personal uh preferences um. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 708.95 714.91 Wh what I was th uh thinking about was um you've got um 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 732.17 741.45 uh like uh the on-off button uh sound uh I dunno um And um here you've got a s kind of a display. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 725.51 732.17 Uh this the remote control uh and uh you got here the general functions 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 742.76 744.38 It's a touchscreen. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 759.19 764.52 And um you got here uh real buttons for uh selecting uh a device. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 744.38 759.19 So um yeah you got a general f uh f the functions of the device uh for a D. V. D. player or uh so um the pl yeah um f for uh playing uh reverse uh. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 780.34 786.21 So uh you you never got uh all the buttons uh on w one device. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 765.86 780.34 So um this button is for a D. V. D. or So um for every um device you've got a uh a f a b a part uh display of a part buttons. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 790.45 793.23 Um yeah and 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 786.21 790.45 So uh that's uh my uh idea about it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 786.48 787.63 Hmm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 790.17 790.44 'Kay. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 799.45 803.95 Uh and um th the buttons uh the real buttons uh we have to use um. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 798.09 799.45 So a touchscreen. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 797.06 798.09 Uh yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 803.95 809.94 We better c um uh use uh quite uh large buttons uh for um yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 794.56 797.06 Uh let's see. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 809.94 812.94 Everybody uh have to use it so 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 813.03 816.64 Uh ol even even old people um young people. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 816.64 822.68 So uh we must keep uh buttons uh quite s uh simple and quite large. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 822.68 825.77 So uh Um 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 823.58 823.86 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 828.33 828.96 Uh yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 826.98 828.33 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 832.37 832.94 So 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 830.42 832.37 That was uh my uh part of it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 831.72 833.06 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 833.06 836.1 Anybody has questions about the technical functions? 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 836.31 842.32 Well I think if we are gonna use a touchscreen uh we're gonna go way above the twelve and a half Euros. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 850.69 856.48 Uh it's just uh um one colo Uh yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 847.51 850.69 S um it's uh not uh in colour or something. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 842.51 844.27 N I I don't think so. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 844.27 847.51 Uh you got uh quite a cheap uh touchscreen. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 842.62 842.95 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 847.05 847.51 Touchscreen. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 857.68 866.83 Uh I seen uh w uh something on the internet uh not today but uh a few uh weeks ago. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 866.83 869.61 Uh you got uh yeah quite an uh 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 871.43 876.85 a kind of uh touchscreen um and it's uh for 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 882.87 885.15 So it's possible. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 878.16 882.87 uh twenty uh Euros or uh less uh. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 882.6 883.14 Huh. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 883.3 883.56 Hmm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 885.39 886.54 That's nice. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 884.94 885.39 'Kay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 886.54 887.26 Uh 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 886.27 888.37 Well it would certainly make a fancy design. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 888.56 888.78 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 889.59 889.99 Yeah. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 892.66 895.31 It's very fragile and you can get scratches on it. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 889.68 892.66 But the It wouldn't be very robust. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 889.9 890.6 So 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 895.44 896.06 That is true. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 901.3 906.69 Uh And then we have a little discussion about the requirements and uh design. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 896.05 897.27 That's right. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 897.27 901.3 Uh maybe we can first um listen to your presentation? 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 896.62 897.61 Yeah that's true. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 897.09 898.19 We would have to look into that. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 901.6 901.99 Uh. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 901.66 901.87 Yeah. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 901.68 902.16 That's. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 904.92 905.33 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 923.51 923.84 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 920.01 923.51 I think it's going to Uh it's not too much. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 932.85 934.68 The user presses a button. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 923.73 927.77 Okay I've got a presentation about the working design. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 939.99 943.01 The T. V. switches to the frequency, or what function it is. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 934.68 939.99 The remote determines what button it is, uses the infrared to send a signal to the T. V. . 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 930.99 932.85 Everybody knows how a remote works. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 930.03 930.99 It's really simple of course. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 927.77 930.03 Um first about how it works. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 948.11 952.06 It gots conductive disks for every button. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 944.22 948.11 So we've got um the the plate. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 952.06 959.83 When the user presses a button, a signal got sent, goes to the LED and transmits tranmi transmits its to the T. V. . 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 974.68 980.59 The chip uh controls the infrared bulb and perf perhaps a normal bulb. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 970.17 974.68 And uh when a button gets pressed, its goes to the chip. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 968.02 970.17 The power source. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 963.4 966.14 So this is a schematic overview. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 960.05 963.4 It's a very simple device, technically speaking. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 966.14 968.02 You've got the buttons. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 980.59 983.24 When you press a button you can actually see your pressed button. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 994.41 998.41 Uh I think we should focus on aesthetics, the design and the user interface 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 990.94 994.41 Keep the inner workings simple, so it's robust. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 985.58 990.94 Well um I think we should use default materials, simple plastics. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 998.41 1003.01 because if you're going to use high-tech materials the price is going to go sky-high. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1004.88 1011.05 And uh you only have to design a remote once, and if you use high-tech materials it come back in every product. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1012.08 1020.46 So it's, in my idea, it's uh it's gonna be smart to invest in di in design and not in uh in the product itself. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1021.92 1022.5 That's it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1023.58 1024.01 Thank you. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1023.16 1023.58 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1031.07 1031.57 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1038.36 1039.43 Uh 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1041.77 1049.26 Okay now I hope everybody has a little bit more insight in the functions we all have and what we are doing right now. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1049.26 1057.24 Um I'm the Project Manager so I'm here to mess things up and uh tell you some new uh requirements. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1067.39 1078.27 Um that's because uh it will be too complex and the time to market will be too big, if we wanna have it uh for more functions. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1058.24 1067.39 Um that's, we've uh got to design a um remote which is only suitable for T. V. . 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1068.8 1069.17 Okay. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1078.3 1078.53 Mm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1080.96 1086 Uh another point is we have to skip the teletext 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1086 1096.01 because in the world of uh upcoming internet uh we think teletext is going to be uh a thing of the past. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1078.78 1080.96 So it has to be simple. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1096.01 1100.69 And uh it's a function we don't need in our remote control. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1107.39 1110.63 Uh maybe also on televisions it will be available as well. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1101.83 1107.39 Um internet is also mentioned in a function we can use. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1116.72 1125.78 Uh that's the the market we have to to to target, because we are going to develop a new product which is specially designed for the younger customers. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1111.83 1116.72 Another one is uh the customer is uh forty plus. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1132.57 1136.82 Because he was uh aiming on the the younger persons. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1126.66 1132.57 Um this is uh a bit pity for the Marketing uh Expert. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1136.82 1142 So we have to find a market which is above forty plus uh but which will suit our 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1165.72 1167.21 So I suggest 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1160.26 1165.72 And uh we have to be uh very clear on this point as well. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1146.48 1154.49 And we have to be very uh attent in uh putting the corporate image uh in our product. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1143.04 1146.48 uh remote control, and the other way round. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1154.49 1160.26 So it has to be visible in our design, in the way our device works. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1168.78 1172.15 let's have a discussion on the control functions. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1173.66 1173.99 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1174.94 1177.96 So is there any discussion possible about the new product requirement? 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1176.32 1189.25 Uh we can see if we can find a way uh between the functions we wanna use and the market we wanna reach with our product. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1189.25 1190.03 Um 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1188.77 1188.95 Mm. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1198.96 1201.97 And new T. V. s will have internet access on them. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1189.33 1198.96 Yeah 'cause you're you're saying that teletext is gonna be an old feature and it's not gonna be used anymore anyway pretty soon. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1201.97 1208.63 But I think if you're targeting people of forty plus, the chance that they will have a T. V. with internet access 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1209.76 1212.78 within the next like twenty years is very slim. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1221.33 1225.43 So I think it's pretty dumb to put no teletext feature on it. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1214.14 1221.33 In addition people indicated that teletext simply was an important feature for the remote control. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1214.21 1214.6 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1227.36 1228.4 I'm pretty much against it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1229.56 1230.91 Against the no teletext? 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1230.07 1230.44 Mm. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1230.95 1232.67 Yes. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1232.98 1234.36 Um 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1235.33 1238.78 Besides that, I think the market for forty plus is like 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1239.83 1240.63 pretty small. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1243.2 1248.73 But I mean if I s if I see this, it's I think we're just gonna go for another 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1244.06 1245.93 forty 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1244.22 1245.59 Yeah it's it is 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1249.58 1251.07 Standard remote. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1250.42 1250.83 pretty 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1252.41 1253.83 No I think we can 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1252.92 1254.39 and not innovative 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1255.51 1262.38 I think we can do a lot with the design and the simple buttons which were also mentioned. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1262.38 1269.7 Uh if we put a lot of effort in those, we can make a remote control with uh just two or three buttons. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1269.7 1275.77 Or just a remote which is suitable for the market we wanna reach because it is forty percent of the market. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1255.65 1256.38 remote control. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1273.57 1274.15 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1276.6 1283.05 And um if you look in Holland at the whole generation of forty plus,
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1283.05 1289.92 fifty plus, it it's the the biggest share of the of the whole population now. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1291.04 1292.98 Yes but it's not the biggest part of the 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1294.2 1294.57 market. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1295.49 1295.84 No. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1295.58 1299.73 And besides that, they're not very critical so I mean they don't really care 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1300.7 1303.15 what the remote control is like. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1303.15 1306.88 They'll just pretty much take the first thing they see and which looks acceptable. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1308.73 1316.68 But don't you think that if we make a remote which is uh typically made for this market 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1316.68 1324.56 that people think the people think that's the the device I've looked for although I didn't realise it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1324.56 1326.04 So let's try it. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1326.95 1327.22 No. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1328.22 1329.61 I think that would be the case in the 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1331 1334.14 sixteen to forty five age category. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1336.26 1340.77 because they are critical and they they want to have a fancy remote control. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1340.71 1340.91 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1341.96 1346.05 People of forty plus, I mean they want it to work, but 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1347.53 1349.76 as soo as soon as it works it's okay with them. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1351.56 1351.91 Mm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1351.65 1352.06 Yeah. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1352.77 1360.73 I think that if we're If we put our marketing right um we can sell this just like um I don't know if you've heard about it in the news 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1360.73 1362.81 the the elderly mobile phone? 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1353.21 1353.79 So 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1363.53 1364.47 It's a big success. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1362.98 1363.53 Yeah. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1378.72 1379.4 We just 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1364.66 1372.49 Yeah if we if we make a remote control just l with that idea in mind, we could make tons of money, I think. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1372.49 1378.72 We don't have to focus on on on the on the design then but on functionality. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1365.09 1366.1 I haven't heard of it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1367.31 1367.68 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1365.52 1367.31 Very big success. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1371.93 1372.15 Hmm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1371.95 1372.51 Uh. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1372.51 1373.67 I think so as well. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1372.27 1372.64 Mm. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1380.68 1383.46 change our focus on the project, and I think 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1385.01 1386.36 we can uh we can sell this. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1387.22 1390.11 Uh I simply think um 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1398.3 1407.26 are designed for uh younger people, uh so maybe we can focus ourself on the elderly people. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1393.12 1398.3 uh that the new products we are gonna make, uh spef specifically design,
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1408.6 1419.18 And I think we have to um see what requirements we need for those um remote controls. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1419.18 1424.19 'Cause what you told is the channel selection is important. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1424.19 1428.09 Volume selection, power and teletext. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1428.09 1429.49 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1429.49 1430.4 Um 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1423.96 1424.26 Yes. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1424.61 1425 Mm. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1427.46 1427.89 Yes. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1427.63 1428.82 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1430.35 1432.75 But obviously the board tends to disagree. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1433.23 1440.55 No we we haven't voted yet, so Uh I think teletext can be uh 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1441.97 1445.87 um can be a function as well. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1445.87 1447.76 But only if uh if it won't 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1451.34 1457.05 because I don't know if it will be a lot more money to implement teletext as well, but I don't think it will be a problem. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1448.73 1451.34 higher the the cost,
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1458.56 1460.19 Or is teletext a 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1459.03 1463.95 But um deaf people need uh teletext for uh for subtitles. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1463.95 1465.06 So it's Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1463.25 1463.55 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1463.51 1464.43 Yeah, also. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1465.97 1467.51 So I suggest uh 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1465.48 1465.97 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1466.64 1469.71 I think it'd definitely be a bad idea not to include teletext. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1467.47 1468 It's 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1469.03 1469.34 Mm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1469.07 1469.45 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1470.57 1473.74 Is anybody um really against teletext? 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1474.4 1474.64 No. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1475.59 1479.56 Just that, that we just keep the teletext. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1475 1475.59 No? 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1481.67 1484.77 I think that's a good idea as well, especially for the subtitles. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1486.8 1487.86 Maybe we can 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1489.48 1491.23 make that um 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1493.46 1497.25 another point of advantage in our remote control,
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1497.25 1505.87 if we uh make a k a button ex for example for big subtitles, which is instantly on the remote control. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1505.87 1511.73 For elderly people they can think, oh I wanna have subtitles, and they push the button and they get the big subtitles. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1505.85 1506.6 Yeah yeah. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1512.2 1513.3 Uh that's a good idea. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1512.45 1513.22 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1513.22 1513.75 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1520.64 1521.68 Um 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1514.02 1520.64 Um so I think teletext can v can be very useful in our advantage. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1523.24 1526.17 Functionality should be few buttons, you said. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1527.62 1527.99 Yes. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1528.29 1532.39 I think uh that's very important we have a few buttons. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1528.52 1528.65 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1533.07 1533.33 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1535.32 1537.01 So to keep it simple. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1535.95 1536.25 But 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1537.94 1540.38 I don't think that's really an issue any more 'cause 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1541.63 1542.63 Well might be. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1543.91 1546.17 If it's only for televi Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1544.17 1548.58 But I mean it, if it's only for T. V. you're not gonna need a lot of buttons anyway. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1548.58 1553.29 You need a one to zero button, next channel, previous channel, 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1547.15 1547.36 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1548.69 1549.13 No. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1551.76 1552.25 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1554.41 1558.21 volume up, volume down, and some teletext buttons but 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1559.52 1559.77 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1562 1563.18 But do you need 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1562.13 1563.6 I think if you if you only l 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1562.51 1567.13 So we can s we can skip the display, so uh we don't need it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1566.54 1572.19 But do you need the buttons for one to zero. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1572.19 1573.39 Maybe c we can 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1567.41 1568.11 Nah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1572.47 1573.29 Uh 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1572.58 1575.08 Think if you're gonna include teletext you do. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1575.08 1577.4 I think many people like to use that. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1577.4 1585.06 'Cause if you should, if you want to switch from channel one to like thirty five, you don't wanna push the next channel button thirty five times. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1577.11 1579.11 Maybe we can use uh 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1577.63 1577.92 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1584.22 1584.39 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1584.91 1587.97 No, maybe we can implement the scroll button? 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1589.84 1591.54 Or a joystick like? 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1590.32 1590.72 Mm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1596.49 1601.68 The Sony telephone has a scroll button which is very useful in searching names or 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1594.5 1596.49 Just look if you look at telephones. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1593.04 1594.5 There are other ways too. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1595.7 1596.13 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1597.73 1598.1 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1600.07 1600.29 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1603.26 1605.25 That's true but um 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1606.99 1610.89 I don't think there are many T. V. s that can switch channels that fast. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1610.89 1612.38 And so you would need like 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1613.63 1618.99 the T. V. would need an a function where you can actually view all channels and scroll through it. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1620.25 1622.2 And I dunno if many channels would 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1625.08 1626.12 If many T. V. s have that. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1624.2 1625.08 do have that. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1632.75 1635.48 They're not used to using scroll buttons. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1635.48 1638.6 So perhaps we should s stick to the basic layout. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1626.93 1632.75 And besides that it's um If we're gonna focus on elderly people they'll have to adapt. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1626.06 1626.93 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1626.83 1627.25 Mm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1635.36 1635.9 That's right. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1635.81 1636.11 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1635.98 1636.18 Mm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1642.36 1650.76 Yeah they can see how much buttons there are going to be on on the display, and if it's too much we can uh reconsider it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1653.28 1654.93 Or there don't have to be a lot. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1640.05 1642.36 the numbers yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1650.76 1653.28 But I think there won't be very much buttons. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1651.31 1651.63 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1654.01 1660.63 But I don't think I think if you're gonna make a remote control only to operate a T. V., you there's not much you can gain on 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1673.13 1675.4 I don't think there's much to be gained in that area. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1661.67 1664.97 um having as few buttons as possible. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1664.97 1673.13 'Cause I think there are pretty many remote controls that can only operate a T. V., which already only have the minimum number of buttons. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1676.18 1678.13 The number of buttons? 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1678.13 1680.82 I think it's very important in the in the design. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1676.2 1676.8 Hmm. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1677.79 1678.03 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1687.63 1690.41 And if you have less buttons you can do a lot more with 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1681.93 1687.63 You can make a very fancy design uh with putting the buttons on the right places. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1691.61 1700.01 That is true but I think there's simply not much to gain on the competition when you when you're making a remote control only for to operate only the T. V. . 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1701.66 1703.39 To operate only the T. V. yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1702.17 1708.97 'Cause if you have a a remote control only to operate a T. V. there's simply not a lot of buttons required. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1710.06 1715.53 There's not a lot of functions required so most existing remote controls simply don't have a lot of buttons either. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1715.8 1716.11 No. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1716.14 1716.37 No. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1717.28 1717.91 So. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1717.66 1721.84 So I think it would be very hard to actually gain on the competition here. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1722.85 1723.93 So we can 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1722.53 1722.85 'Kay. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1723.04 1726.02 That would that would cost a a big marketing 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1728.15 1728.83 expedition 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1728.17 1728.77 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1729.82 1730.31 That's right. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1730.4 1730.99 which was 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1731.97 1736.63 one of the arguments to make it only for the T. V. because we didn't have the time to market a lot. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1738 1744.34 So you suggest we could better um focus on for example the docking station. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1737 1738 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1745.7 1747.17 Uh uh like other functions. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1749.59 1752.1 Instead of f of less buttons. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1749.74 1750.34 Maybe. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1752.79 1753.08 Well 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1754.13 1758.45 yeah I think, mean we obviously need a good way to position all the buttons and 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1759.39 1761.53 But I don't think we should spend very much time in that. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1762.38 1763.06 Mm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1764.56 1766.71 Do you think the docking station will 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1763.06 1764.56 No. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1767.88 1771.15 uh is allowed in the budget we have? 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1772.61 1774.26 It should be possible yes. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1776.04 1779.13 And if the remote stays rather small, it should be possible yeah. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1774.26 1776.04 If it's not too fancy. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1774.03 1775.04 'Cause it can be 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1774.35 1775.08 No. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1776.19 1776.6 No. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1778.99 1779.91 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1779.91 1781.53 Because I think that's uh 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1779.4 1779.57 No. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1782.56 1784.56 That's a good advantage point as well. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1784.56 1793.63 If we have a fancy-looking docking station or very That's a nice requirement. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1785.69 1786.12 Yes. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1789.09 1789.25 Hmm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1794.83 1795.8 Docking station. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1797 1799.02 So we're just gonna focus on the extras? 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1800.46 1801.12 I think so. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1801.24 1801.42 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1801.82 1802 Mm. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1801.92 1804.28 Yeah I think maybe we should do some research into 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1805.31 1807.33 what elderly people like to have in a 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1808.23 1808.65 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1808.5 1810.39 like to have extra in a new remote control. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1811.17 1812.59 That's a good point. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1812.59 1813.9 Um 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1816.42 1818.68 You said they easily get lost as well. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1820 1824.43 Yes well fifty percent of the people indicated that remote control tended to get lost. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1822.91 1823.22 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1824.57 1829.39 So maybe we should implement the audio sign, or something. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1839.19 1842.52 And you just press a button and the phone goes ringing. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1829.65 1831.88 Yeah that was what I suggested. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1831.88 1839.19 You have it on Yeah you have it's on some phones too, which have a docking station. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1831.03 1831.46 Yeah. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1831.58 1835.48 Like with your key-chain, if you whistle it goes uh it makes a sound. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1832.88 1833.49 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1834.41 1834.71 Hm. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1839.11 1839.36 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1847.06 1851.26 I think it's not too expensive. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1842.67 1843.23 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1843.23 1847.06 So audio signal should be possible as well. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1851.26 1852.79 Uh another 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1843.28 1844.03 So you know where it is. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1848.31 1848.83 No. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1854.3 1856.92 point is the L. C. D. screen. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1859.2 1865.91 Um I don't know if that will rise the cost too much, because 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1865.23 1869.74 Y i um I think we'll have to choose between the docking station or the screen, 'cause 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1871.66 1872.91 It will be too much as well. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1870.82 1871.66 Yeah. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 1871.19 1871.91 it's uh 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1871.5 1871.8 Mm. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1873.15 1877.01 I think since a lot of people indicated that a new remote control is hard to learn 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1889.28 1890.68 Which would tell you what it does. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1877.01 1883.55 and we're focusing on elderly people here which tend to have a hard time understanding new devices,
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1883.55 1889.28 it might be a good idea to have just a little screen on it, which would explain a button if you press it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1892.2 1892.48 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1893.11 1897.47 And it wouldn't have to be touchscreen or a very expensive screen, but 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1895.66 1896.1 Based. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1897.09 1897.56 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1895.96 1897.09 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1898.96 1900.15 Just the L. C. D. . 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1900.15 1901.7 Oh just the normal screen. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1902.38 1904.69 Just a small screen with two 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1906.79 1907.43 Feedback. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1904.17 1906.79 So Some extra info. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1903.17 1904.17 That's a good idea. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1906.96 1907.36 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1909.39 1910.6 I think that's a good idea as well. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1908.98 1909.39 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1909.01 1909.28 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1911.51 1913.07 But I dunno if that would 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1914.64 1915.84 As the small screen. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1915.19 1916.35 that would fit into the 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1919.72 1920.28 costs. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1924.27 1925.8 Extra button info. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1938.69 1942.33 Should be fancy to, fancy design, easy to learn. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1938 1938.69 More. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1929.41 1932.7 I think that should be possible as well. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1936.39 1938 Mm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1942.33 1944.69 Few buttons, we talked about that. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1944.69 1947.68 Docking station, L. C. D. . 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1932.7 1936.39 Um let's see what did we say. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1947.68 1950.87 Um general functions 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1952.5 1953.17 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1956.04 1956.46 'Kay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1960.37 1962.8 And default materials. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1974.89 1976.88 So that doesn't really matter. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1964.52 1974.89 I think that's a good idea as well, because um elderly people don't mind if it's a titanium cover or just a plastic one. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1976.88 1979.44 So I think we nee 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1975.2 1975.79 No. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 1975.67 1975.91 Mm. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1978.99 1984.37 I think probably elderly people would be a little bit more careful with their remote controls than 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 1985.53 1986.1 youngsters. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1999.66 2006.87 Because I think what we're going to design now is for people above sixty, maybe. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1988.8 1993.16 Uh let's um specify the target group. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 1993.16 1999.66 Because are we talking about elderly elderly people or people from forty to eighty. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2009.54 2009.7 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2009.07 2009.54 Mm. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2009.37 2009.54 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2010.43 2011.35 Uh what do we want? 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2011.35 2019.25 If we want um a with uh for example the the telephone for elderly people, we can 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2011.08 2011.83 I think 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2020.51 2022.52 target the real elderly people. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2024.27 2028.07 I think that would be a If we should do something like that it would be a 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2028.07 2031.98 I think it would be really good for uh for the image of the company. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2033.23 2033.52 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2033.79 2036.81 And I think, I think there would be a good market for it. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2038.01 2039.05 So that's the 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2038.5 2042.11 If we're able to really bring an innovative product. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2042.48 2045.35 Now you're talking about sixty to eighty for example. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2045.1 2046.48 Yeah the really 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2046.81 2048.71 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2048.71 2049.39 Sixty. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2047.35 2047.49 Mm. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2048.3 2048.56 But 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2050.42 2051.96 I'd have to look into that a little more. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2052.34 2053.44 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2056.42 2057.13 Are we 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2053.44 2056.42 And different cultures. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 2057.39 2060.94 Well I don't think they have different television sets uh 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2062.02 2062.55 Mm. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2062.21 2062.73 Okay. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 2062.34 2063.44 in uh every country. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2064.19 2064.62 No. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2064.8 2065.16 No. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 2065.46 2066.02 'Cause 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2067.61 2070.08 We've got five minutes left just now. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2070.08 2070.94 Small warning. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2068.42 2070 So 'Kay. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2069.67 2070.58 'Kay. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2070.58 2075.17 And with uh the little screen in it, which explains the buttons. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2075.17 2077.94 You could I think we n it would be a lot easier to 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2075.16 2075.67 Should 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2078.94 2081.13 adapt it to different cultures. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2083.6 2083.96 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2082.09 2083.6 In different languages, you know. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2081.65 2082.09 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2083.17 2083.46 Yeah. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 2083.37 2083.66 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2083.9 2084.14 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2098.8 2103.23 Uh then a few small things. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2094.64 2095.98 Okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2095.98 2098.8 So that's the the target. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2090.85 2094.64 It's better to put it on different markets with it all. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2085.21 2090.85 or you have to put a language button in it, but that will be a bit unnecessary I think. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2086.12 2086.46 Right. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2089.03 2089.85 No. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2089.85 2090.19 Yeah. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2090.25 2090.57 Yeah. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2093.64 2094.06 Yeah. 
TS3003b H02 MTD0010ID 2094.57 2094.82 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2105.96 2108.08 Uh okay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2112.26 2121.02 Um what we're going to do for the next meeting is the Industrial Designer will do the components concept,
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2108.08 2112.26 I will put the minutes in the project uh project document folder. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2121.02 2124.32 User Interface Designer the user interface concept, and the trend-watching. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2124.58 2134.92 So just keep in mind the things we've said about the target group, uh requirements, and the trends which are uh going on. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2134.92 2139.55 And uh specific instructions will be sent to you by uh the personal coach. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2140.48 2140.62 'Kay. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2140.81 2143.85 So um I thank you for this meeting. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2143.85 2146.56 And I think we have a lunch-break now. 
TS3003b H03 MTD012ME 2147.13 2147.75 That's good. 
TS3003b H01 MTD011UID 2147.67 2147.86 Yeah. 
TS3003b H00 MTD009PM 2147.94 2149.36 So that's a good thing. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 33.46 36.02 Um let's see. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 30.93 33.46 I did anyway. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 22.71 24.25 Uh good afternoon. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 21.26 22.71 Okay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 24.25 28.37 This is our third meeting already. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 28.37 30.93 I hope you enjoyed your lunch. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 24.09 24.64 Good afternoon. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 43.09 48.44 Okay this is um the second phase uh we're going to discuss today. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 51.62 60.95 And a few points of interest in this meeting um are the conceptual specification of components. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 39.61 43.09 Presentation three. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 48.44 51.62 It's the conceptual design meeting. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 64.09 66.22 And also trend-watching. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 66.22 75.8 Um these are hopefully the points you addressed in uh your pre uh presentations you're going to show me in a few minutes. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 61.25 64.09 Uh conceptual specification of design. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 93.83 96 And then we're closing. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 84.04 86.21 Then we have three presentations. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 91.42 93.83 How we're going to make it. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 86.21 91.42 Uh after that we have to come to a decision on remote control concepts. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 82.15 84.04 Uh first the opening. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 77.08 82.15 Um but first I'll show you the agenda. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 96 98 We have about forty minutes. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 99.11 102.21 Uh so I suggest let's get started. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 102.21 107.47 Uh did someone encounter any problems during the preparation? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 109.64 110.51 No? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 111.82 112.56 That's nice. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 110.51 111.82 Everything fine? 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 109.75 109.97 No. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 137.69 139.87 And we are going to use default materials. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 121.77 124.69 Uh these are the points um we agreed on. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 124.69 127.58 The requirements and the target market. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 114.8 121.77 Then a little uh thing about the last meeting. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 127.58 137.69 Uh requirements are uh teletext, docking station, audio signal, small screen, with some extras that uh button information. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 148.52 156.11 These are just the the things we thought of, so maybe if you figured something else or thought of something else, just let me know. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 156.11 157.55 And maybe we can uh work it out. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 146.61 147.91 Maybe? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 147.91 148.52 No? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 141.37 146.61 Um does somebody have any comments on these requirements? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 158.44 163.34 And we're going to target uh sixty to to eighty year old customers. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 165.11 174.02 So now everybody knows what we're do we're doing, um I suggest let's get started with the presentations. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 175.32 180.12 So shall we keep the same uh line-up as uh last time? 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 181.91 183 I'll start off then. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 180.27 181.91 Sure. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 180.89 181.24 Okay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 182.67 184.52 Good luck. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 192.77 193.34 Doh. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 209.95 212.24 Um we've done some market research. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 212.24 216.1 We distributed some more enquetes, questionnaires. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 203.97 209.95 'Kay I'm uh gonna inform you about the trend-watching I've done over the past few days. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 216.7 227.28 And um besides that um I deployed some trend-watchers to Milan and Paris to well get all of the newest trends. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 227.28 235.25 And I've consulted some additional trend-watch trend-watchers, after the original trend-watchers return, about what the 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 240.88 245.09 Um okay these are some overall findings. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 245.09 249.6 Um most important thing is the fancy design. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 249.6 254.62 Um the research indicated that that was by far the most important factor. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 236.85 240.88 the best design would be. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 262.39 267.76 By innovativeness this means um functions which are not featured in other remote controls. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 255.1 262.39 Um innovativeness was about half as important as the fancy design. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 268.97 278.39 Um about half of, half as important as the innovativeness was the was easy to use. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 278.39 291.93 Um for our um group, we're focusing on the people of sixty to eighty y years old, this is um, these factors are slightly more equal. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 298.3 301.02 Uh the older people prefer dark colours. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 305.33 310.93 And our surveys have indicated that especially wood is pretty much 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 295.07 298.3 'Kay these are some more group specific findings. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 301.02 305.33 Uh they like recognisable shapes, and familiar material. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 312 316.33 the material for older people. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 316.33 327.64 Um this is, this image will give you a little bit of an impression about um the look-and-feel that um the remote should have. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 331.07 335.2 Um this leads us to some personal preferences. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 335.2 339.33 Uh the remote control and the docking station should uh blend in in the 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 340.45 342.26 in the room. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 355.57 362.7 because this would be the These would uh be the innovativeness in the remote control. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 342.26 347.97 Um so this would mean no uh eye-catching designs. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 347.97 355.57 Just keep it simple and Well the docking station and small screen would be our main points of interest 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 363.93 368.96 So this would be very important that we at least include these features. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 368.96 379.01 Um well the trend-watchers I consulted advised that it b should be, the remote control and the docking station should be telephone-shaped. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 379.01 384.7 So you could imagine that uh the remote control will be standing up straight in the docking station. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 390.85 399.58 So they would prefer uh a design where the remote control just lies flat in the docking station. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 399.58 401.7 So it would be kinda more telephone-shaped. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 385.5 390.85 This is not really This is pretty much a new shape to uh older people. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 402.66 413.14 Um besides that we would advise um to bring two editions, one with a wood-like colour and maybe feel, and one with a grey-black colour. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 413.14 418.09 The wood-like for the more uh exclusive people. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 418.09 419.98 People with more money. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 419.98 422.27 Uh the grey-black colour for well 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 425.33 427.3 people with less means. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 430.97 432.03 That would be all. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 437.36 437.58 Mayb 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 434.95 437.36 Any questions about the the trends? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 433.09 434.95 Thank you. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 432.55 433.09 Okay. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 436.35 437.11 Any questions? 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 438.38 439.43 Mm no. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 442.22 443.65 Okay, we go on to the next one. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 440.59 442.22 No? 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 479.69 485.34 So uh um uh that's w what I what I want to uh 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 468.2 472.37 uh some uh research uh a about um designing of an interface. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 464.17 468.2 Um 'kay um yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 472.37 479.69 Um the uh last meeting uh we had a about um uh using a f few buttons. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 496.75 504.06 Um the uh I found some uh something about uh speech uh recognition. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 486.81 490.88 uh to do in uh our design. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 504.06 507.25 So maybe uh we can uh use uh that. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 507.25 509.31 Um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 490.88 496.75 So um finding an attractive uh way to control uh the remote control. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 509.39 512.41 Uh and uh using a little uh display. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 512.41 515.84 So um findings. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 515.84 522.63 Um yeah just um we have just to focus on the primary um functions. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 537.94 539.3 Um yeah and 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 533.86 537.94 Um uh let's see. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 522.79 533.86 So uh only uh buttons uh for uh sound, um for uh on-off, um uh shifting u up uh sa uh ca channel or uh down shifting down. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 550.76 559.04 So uh it's uh like a speak uh speech uh recognition and um a special button for selecting uh subtitles. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 559.04 562.47 Just uh what we uh mentioned uh last uh meeting. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 540.53 550.76 Uh we uh need some uh new a attractive functions uh uh which attract uh uh people for using it. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 567.36 570.79 So uh using uh large large buttons. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 570.79 571.76 Um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 563.4 567.36 Um and yeah overall um user-friendly. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 574.59 581.27 It's uh possible to uh uh to make um quite cheap uh system for uh speech uh recognition. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 590.78 593.15 So uh uh yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 581.27 590.78 Um you can think about um uh when you lost your um remote control, you can uh call it and um it gives an um sig signal. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 603.94 609.72 you can uh just give a sign uh say um sound off or 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 593.55 603.94 And and uh for uh shifting up a sen uh c ch channel or uh for um uh putting out uh sound or something 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 610.35 612.48 A and uh yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 616.66 617.9 Um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 612.48 616.66 Television uh put the sound off uh put the sound off uh. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 620.17 621.07 Uh yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 621.07 627.54 I was thinking about the special uh button for uh subtitles, um just one button to keep it uh simple. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 619.79 620.17 Let's see. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 627.54 631.87 Uh one push on the button uh you get uh uh small uh subtitles. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 632.53 642.04 Um double push push um, if double click, um so uh you get uh big uh subtitles, for uh people uh 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 643.28 649.65 um uh which c f uh who can't uh read small uh subtitles. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 649.65 651.67 So uh Um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 653 659.77 Yeah and w we have to keep uh in general buttons uh so um we've got um the buttons we have to use. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 659.77 666.08 The on-off, sound on-off, sound higher or lower, um the numbers, uh zero to uh uh nine. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 667.22 674.99 Um the general buttons m more general b one button for shifting up and shifting down uh channel. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 674.99 685.47 Um also we want to uh use a little d display uh for um for displaying the uh the functions of the buttons. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 686.09 695.46 And um we can uh build in a function f which uh shows the channel or some uh which the t television is on. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 701.61 702.33 Um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 695.46 701.61 So um made a little uh picture of uh it. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 703.62 704.29 See. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 712.19 718.24 Just um we can put uh the on-off button uh over in this uh corner 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 732.71 734.16 So um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 709.75 712.19 Um yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 725.71 732.71 Um so uh people uh will uh recognise uh um the button. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 718.24 725.71 um almost uh e all uh remote controls uh are using a on-off button on that place. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 740.43 743.12 Uh um you can put it uh on top. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 735.38 740.43 D display uh of it, it's uh just a small display. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 743.12 746.15 Um it's uh most uh 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 751.99 760.41 So uh um and a special uh button for shifting up uh and uh shifting down uh channel 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 760.41 765.85 um it's uh on place where um the thumb of of the 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 747.88 751.99 uh place where people uh, most of looks at. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 770.38 774.04 Um it's uh quite uh 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 767.21 770.38 So you you can uh easily uh shift up or shift down. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 776.23 783.16 So um and uh all the f functions for subtitle uh one button, uh for sound uh 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 775.6 776.23 handy place. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 784.71 793.04 Uh and uh for our design, um uh we have to discuss about it uh I think uh so uh the form of it so 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 794.24 794.55 Okay. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 794.71 795.73 And that's it. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 796.33 797.87 Uh thank you. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 807.71 808.33 Okay. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 833.6 836.01 So I don't think it's really an option. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 828.29 833.6 But if we choose for that option, the docking station would c become obsolete. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 816.73 823.21 Um for the energy source we can use a basic battery or, a as an optional thing,
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 814.38 816.73 About the components design. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 823.21 828.29 a kinetic energy, like in a watch, which you just shake and it produces energy. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 845.83 848.59 It's really up the the design that we're gonna use. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 836.87 845.83 Uh for the casing, uh the uh manufacturing department can deliver uh a flat casing, single or double curved casing. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 848.59 853.47 It's uh doesn't uh imply any technical restrictions. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 854.24 861.53 Uh as a case supplement, we could um, I thought of that l later, uh a rubber uh belt, like a anti-slip. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 863.41 866.77 Uh for the b buttons, we can use plastic or rubber. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 866.77 873.26 And the chip-set, um it says simple here, but it should be advanced, because we're using an L. C. D. uh screen. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 874.18 880.26 And as uh the trend-watcher presentation showed, um people like wood,
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 887.25 889.13 Form should follow function overall. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 880.26 887.25 but it raises the price and it doesn't really fit the image, unless we would start two product lines. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 915.23 915.76 And that's it. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 900.47 907.06 Um for the case, uh the supplement and the buttons, it really depends on the designer. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 889.7 895.54 Um well the kinetic energy source is rather fancy. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 907.06 915.23 And the chip-set uh really should be advanced because otherwise uh it would really be a simple uh remote control. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 895.54 898.17 But depends on what we want. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 898.17 900.47 I think we should disc discuss that. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 916.21 917.39 Okay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 917.39 917.84 Thank you. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 920.09 924.32 So that brings us to the discussion about our concepts. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 926.95 927.81 Mm. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 934.63 934.94 'Kay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 945.06 948.25 So these are the points we have to discuss. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 949.6 953.18 Um first 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 955.54 960.21 I think we can talk about the energy source, since that's um 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 969.08 970.11 Uh so 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 961.65 969.08 has a pretty big influence on production price, uh and image. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 971.25 979.27 uh f I think first of all we have to see uh it is possible to introduce kinetic energy in our budget, I think. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 987.19 991.13 You don't wanna swing before you can watch television. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 984.36 987.19 But I don't think that's really an option. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 992.61 996.67 But not every room is very light so it's not a very good option. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 996.67 997.67 Or the kinetic energy. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 977.98 979.92 Yes w there there are four options. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 991.13 992.61 Uh solar cells. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 982.73 984.36 Uh a hand dynamo. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 979.92 982.73 We could use the basic normal battery. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 982.32 982.66 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 984.83 987.78 Okay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 990.66 991.03 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 994.4 994.85 Mm. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 995.59 996.16 No. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 999.41 1000.38 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1000.38 1001.06 Okay. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1003.7 1004.24 You just 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1000.75 1003.7 And how exactly does the kinetic energy work? 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1003.6 1007.54 Well y you basically shake your remote, and then it powers up. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1007.54 1007.88 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1005.16 1007.47 You use it and it works. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1008.48 1008.84 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1010.1 1017.06 Well personally I don't think that older people like to shake their remote control before they use it. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1009.02 1010.1 Okay. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1009.07 1009.4 Nah. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1016.48 1017.42 Yeah. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1017.42 1018.16 That's true. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1024.99 1032.67 And I think our docking station could be one of the marketing issues with which we can um 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1019.23 1024.99 And besides that you mentioned it would make the docking station obsolete. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1023.66 1023.76 Oh. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1033.72 1035.59 get great popularity for our product. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1037.68 1038.13 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1038 1038.51 But 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1038.44 1040.07 Um wel 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1040.66 1043.74 Yeah f for loading up uh the batteries. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1039.73 1040.66 what's the function? 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1044.23 1051.96 Yeah you could load up the batteries, you could um insert the find the lost remote control function in there. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1045.02 1045.41 B b 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1072.93 1073.32 Uh so 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1058.64 1068.11 Uh it's uh just a small display so I believe uh it will run on one battery for um six months or f or or more. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1068.11 1072.93 So I believe one battery uh is just enough. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1052.8 1058.64 Okay but uh it won't use uh much e energy uh I I believe. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1068.73 1069.21 Uh 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1080.77 1087.73 And I don't think they they like uh remotes just laying everywhere in their rooms. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1073.99 1080.77 Uh well I think uh elderly people just like to have everything in place. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1087.73 1091.57 So maybe a docking station will help them give the remote a place. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1074.9 1077.2 That's true. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1087.18 1087.63 Okay. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1090.92 1091.11 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1091.11 1091.82 That's true. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1091.82 1092.03 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1093.69 1101.86 Um you can introduce voice recognition by uh finding back your remote. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1101.86 1109.64 But I think it's um more efficient and cheaper to put it in the docking station. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1092.41 1093.69 And also what you said. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1109.64 1114.41 So you have a but button on your docking station which you can push, and then it starts beeping. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1100.48 1100.7 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1101.7 1102.13 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1114.8 1115.65 Okay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1116.26 1122.14 And then we can we can still use the voice recognition, but maybe then for only the the channels. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1117.93 1118.58 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1122.65 1123.01 Uh. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1123.23 1123.96 That's safe. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1123.33 1129.54 I'm wondering um what will the voice recognition mean for the production price? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1130.83 1131.98 That's a good point. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1130.24 1130.83 Yeah. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1131.38 1134.02 Mm I don't have any information on pricing. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1134.02 1136.32 So I'll have to ask the manufacturing department. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1136.65 1136.96 Mm. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1137.33 1145.57 'Cause in our earlier um market research, if you'd allow me to go to the flat board, SMARTboard. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1144.38 1144.77 Go ahead. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1142.65 1144.38 Yeah, sure. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1150.58 1152.35 Um so it was open here. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1153.61 1155.94 Um we also um 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1168.27 1172.29 So if that would increase the price for which we're selling our remote control 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1159.13 1163.69 asked if w they would, if people would pay more for speech recognition in a remote control. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1163.69 1168.27 Well you can see here, our target group would not do that. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1167.86 1168.27 No. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1173.23 1173.36 Mm. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1173.92 1176.67 I would greatly advise not to do it. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1176.67 1181.75 I think that would be better to uh insert in our other product, that is meant for the 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1176.47 1176.9 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1183.13 1183.3 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1183.21 1183.91 younger people. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1185.32 1188.1 But that would also go for the L. C. D. screen then I guess. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1185.63 1186.21 'Kay. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1189.47 1191.65 It's a bit higher percentage, but 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1199.24 1202.5 So that doesn't really mean they wouldn't pay extra for it. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1193.11 1199.24 Um well this is Yeah but this is here the question was, would you prefer it. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1202.5 1209.7 And on top of that the L. C. D. screen would um help in making the remote control easier to use. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1210.7 1210.91 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1211.95 1212.66 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1212.14 1217.73 And I think a voice recognition function would not make the remote control much easier to use. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1212.3 1212.67 Okay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1217.91 1219.61 No, I think that's a good point. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1216.95 1217.91 Easier to use? 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1220.1 1230.74 But uh is uh our uh research um about um bi large uh L. C. D. sh uh display, or uh just a small one uh we want to uh use? 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1230.63 1237.44 Um well this was for like an L. C. D. screen like you would have on a on the the most advanced mobile phones. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1237.71 1238.2 Okay. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1238.48 1239.71 So pretty large. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1240.02 1240.26 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1240.35 1240.69 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1250.54 1255.07 Because it's just uh some extra information, and it's easy to ignore as well. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1255.07 1257.57 So if you don't wanna use it you just don't use it. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1243.48 1250.54 I personally think the L. C. D. screen we wanna use, with the extra information, I think nobody has anything against it. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1250.59 1250.82 No. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1254.68 1254.92 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1274.31 1279.46 And I don't think the I don't think it will be a lot easier to use, as well. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1268.89 1274.31 Because it will increase cost uh signifi uh significantly. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1258.42 1268.89 And um yeah I think the um Maybe we have to uh discard the voice recognition. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1280.08 1280.51 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1283.72 1291.26 If we don't have the voice recognition, it will it won't use a lot of energy to use. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1281.22 1283.72 So that brings us back to the energy. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1291.26 1292.27 Um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1289.74 1290.03 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1293.49 1303.56 So in that case we could use kinetic uh energy, but I think just a simple battery which you can reload on a docking station is just as good. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1303.56 1304.66 And much cheaper as well. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1304.78 1305 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1305.85 1306.5 So 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1305.9 1307.14 And that's the best choice. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1307.7 1313.53 Okay let me just choose for the battery. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1313.53 1314.84 That brings us to the chip. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1315.52 1319.47 Well there isn't any choice there because we're using the the the the display. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1319.47 1321 So it's gotta be advanced. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1317.5 1318.47 Just the advanced. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1321.27 1324.65 Okay, advanced chip. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1321.92 1322.25 'Kay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1330.09 1334.55 And then we get to the point of the case. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1346.52 1347.32 Or both? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1334.55 1341.19 Um which brings us a little bit back to marketing as well. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1341.19 1346.52 Uh if we wanna choose for wood or the black and grey. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1357.23 1370.33 Um but I think it will attract elderly people who wanna have something exclusive, which they can show off to their grandkids. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1349.08 1357.23 Um as we saw there is not Yeah wood is a lot more expensive to produce. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1370.33 1372.75 Look I've got a new remote control, and uh 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1355.35 1355.72 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1368.87 1369.36 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1371.39 1378.03 Well And I think most important factor there is the wooden colour. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1378.03 1381.36 So it wouldn't actually have to be wood, if it's just 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1371.88 1373.59 Uh I dunno. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1380.5 1380.85 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1383.51 1383.99 That's right. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1384.85 1385.58 wood-coloured. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1385.06 1385.49 Mm. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1388.5 1389.04 Or? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1386.17 1388.5 But with colour was a lot more expensive? 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1390.61 1393.05 I'll have to uh research. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1389.25 1390.61 Mm I dunno. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1389.87 1390.38 You don't know? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1392.12 1395.15 I think so because Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1395.15 1400.64 It's a lot more difficult to to handle and to to get in the right shape. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1394.59 1395.6 Probably. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1395.11 1395.44 Mm. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1417.83 1418.07 So 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1400.79 1404.97 Uh is it possible uh to make um changeable uh case. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1404.97 1417.83 So um uh you 'cause uh Yeah with uh mobile phones uh uh so uh like the Nokia mobile phones, uh when you can change the case of it. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1413.87 1414.21 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1417.83 1418.96 Change the cases. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1418.96 1419.39 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1421.43 1433.82 So um um you have just to make one um standard um remote control, and um yeah you can sell uh few uh Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1419.3 1421.43 maybe it's possible uh possibility. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1432.61 1434.13 You can sell the cases. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1434.13 1435.44 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1435.44 1437.94 I think that's a very good option. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1437.94 1447.68 Because um then you can advertise as well with the Give your grandfather a new case for his remote control, or whatever. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1444.43 1444.74 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1457.96 1459.59 So and then you can make them with colour. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1448.13 1457.96 Because that's a it's something extra, it's something other remotes don't have, which we can get a great advantage point. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1459.59 1461.45 Black and grey, other colours as well. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1452.67 1452.96 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1453.95 1455.74 Yeah that is true. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1460.62 1461.08 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1461.8 1462.46 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1462.46 1466.7 We would have to look carefully into the design though. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1466.05 1466.74 Costs. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1468.87 1475.17 'Cause we would have to make one w uh control which would fit in with a wooden cover and a 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1477.98 1481.53 The more original one, or the more standard one. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1476.46 1477.98 plastic cover. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1477.96 1478.2 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1483.57 1487.7 So you suggest we should design two different telephones 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1482.94 1483.57 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1483 1483.55 So that would 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1488.93 1498.3 on which you can apply, yeah remote controls, on which you can apply different case covers, for example. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1489.01 1491.84 Well I wouldn't design a telephone but 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1496.55 1500.94 Well no I think w we should just, we should then just design one um 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1502.18 1502.59 Remote. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1502.37 1508.67 one remote, but it would have to be fancy with either the wood cover or the plastic one. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1507.79 1508.12 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1509.86 1510.36 Okay. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1510.65 1513.05 So, but that shouldn't be too much of a problem. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1514.24 1517.67 So everybody's okay with the changing covers? 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1518.39 1518.62 Yes. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1518.53 1520.59 I think that's a good uh good option. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1518.57 1518.94 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1523.88 1525.55 Changing case covers. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1524.94 1531.51 Um I heard our Industrial Designer talk about uh flat, single and double curved. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1531.51 1533.12 Could you explain that a little more? 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1530.81 1531.23 Yes. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1531.23 1531.58 Yeah. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1533.41 1540.6 Well the the general like most older remotes are flat, just straight. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1540.6 1546.99 And uh our d manufacturing department can also deliver single curved or double curved ca curved cases. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1540.01 1540.34 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1547.27 1549.54 And what would single curved and double curved mean? 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1550.07 1556.22 Um it would just only affect the form, for as far as I know. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1560.03 1562.36 It doesn't really matter for the price or the functionality. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1556.22 1560.03 So it's j really just up to the design department what we're gonna use. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1559.92 1560.33 Okay. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1562.64 1565.39 So we can pretty much just do whatever we want. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1564.12 1565.37 Pick one you like, yes. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1566.62 1567.17 Mm. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1567.17 1567.61 Okay. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1566.64 1566.88 'Kay. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1567.88 1568.23 That's good. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1569.32 1573.18 Uh but the form has to be um It has to 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1576.77 1579.12 Or just only to lie down? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1574.41 1576.77 It's has to be possible to stand up? 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1578.46 1579.67 No just to lie down. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1579.66 1580.71 okay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1580.5 1584.16 And the the cover of the the docking station is also 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1581.25 1582.29 We'll go for that. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1587.49 1587.92 Or not? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1585.25 1587.49 on top of the television then? 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1587.87 1588.89 Well or besides it. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1597.22 1600.48 What type of interface do we want to use? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1589.91 1591.8 And you can just yeah then click it in. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1593.69 1597.22 Um so the interface. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1591.8 1593.69 That's okay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1601.88 1607.09 Um maybe you can make a little drawing of it on the 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1607.83 1608.32 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1611.44 1613.81 Does somebody have ideas for a form or 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1609.01 1611.44 on the the board. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1610.9 1611.31 Mm. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1615.37 1621.39 Uh we can just use the regular form of it, but it's um not quite uh fancy. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1621.39 1622.13 So um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1623.27 1623.65 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1641.56 1643.42 So that would be great for that. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1632 1641.56 so your thumb would be easily Well uh I think that was a very good point 'cause I pointed out earlier that a lot of remotes cause R. S. I. . 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1624.57 1632 Um you uh said you wanted to put the um changing channels button on the right side, so you could 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1643.42 1649 Um I thought maybe we could just make one of those buttons on both the left and the right side. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1632.95 1633.14 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1631.83 1632.95 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1650.67 1653.24 For uh Uh for Yeah yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1650.95 1653.55 For left-handed users also. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1653.43 1653.76 Yep. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1654.26 1654.49 Mm. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1655.76 1656.71 Yeah we um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1676.69 1679.29 Or Or isn't it? 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1667.15 1676.69 And on the uh other uh uh o other side uh buttons for uh shifting, uh for for the sound? 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1658.29 1667.15 Is it possible to um program it s so uh you got on the left side uh or on the right side uh buttons for for shifting u up and shifting up? 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1678.6 1679.85 Um well that could 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1676.54 1678.6 For the volume. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1679.16 1679.89 Mm. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1680.75 1687.21 Yeah we could do that but I'm not sure if that would be very good for the easy, ease of use. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1686.81 1692.52 Usabili Yeah ease of use will be a lot more difficult, and then it's 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1687.84 1688.51 Yeah okay. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1692.63 1692.96 Uh. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1693.96 1705.27 But if we would make um a changing channels and changing volume button on both sides, that would certainly yield great options for the design of the remote. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1706.79 1707.35 Mm. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1707.13 1709.4 'Cause it could be made all symmetrical and stuff. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1710.79 1711.66 Yeah but 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1711.51 1713.49 But you have extra buttons. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1713.49 1714.95 So people can get confused. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1713.34 1713.69 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1714.89 1715.29 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1715.52 1716.17 That is true. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1716.46 1716.7 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1717.73 1720.86 Especially if they have the same writings on it. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1722.36 1724.17 See um yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1724.17 1728.25 Or we have to make a left uh For lefties and 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1726.41 1732.34 Can't we make uh Can't we make a remote which you can flip over and use 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1733.4 1734.17 on the same 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1735.09 1735.93 Um 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1735.72 1737.89 functions as the normal one? 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1738.54 1739.8 You mean um 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1740.29 1741.94 Then you have to 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1740.74 1741.65 Yeah if 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1742.91 1743.98 Let's see if I ca 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1746.21 1747.48 A blank one. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1750.68 1752.92 And then you get 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1772.7 1774.82 Here's a little L. C. D. screen. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1777.72 1781.07 Uh now I have to think. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1804.34 1805.53 It's a plus and a min. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1810.69 1815.2 Because the plus and the min will be opposite and all kinds of 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1808.61 1810.69 No it's not very handy I think. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1810.3 1810.88 Mm no. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1813.07 1813.45 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1813.2 1813.51 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1816.98 1818.13 No that's not gonna work. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1823.49 1831.17 But is it a problem that left-handed persons use a different hand? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1831.17 1832.62 I think the functions are 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1821 1823.49 Maybe we should Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1819.82 1821 I guess. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1821.31 1822.36 Um 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1833.89 1839.81 that basic that nobody should have any problems with uh choosing a channel or 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1837.99 1839.3 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1839.3 1840.02 That is true. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1839.73 1840.2 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1844.86 1846.87 So um it's 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1841.79 1844.86 It's just uh u using uh your thumb. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1844.6 1845.89 Y yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1847.12 1849.61 I think we could just uh leave it a normal shape. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1845.89 1847.12 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1849.58 1849.92 Yeah. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1849.99 1850.35 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1851.92 1853.65 Uh but maybe we have to 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1857.83 1859.88 In one or ano another way. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1855.66 1857.83 make it a l a bit more fancy. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1860.34 1861.11 Um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1860.06 1860.34 Yeah. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1865.34 1867.85 Because that's the basis you're building on. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1861.94 1865.34 I think we should start by by choosing a case. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1866.91 1868.32 Yeah yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1868.74 1869.14 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1869.23 1869.37 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1871.44 1874.04 Um yeah just 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1871.76 1874.45 So I could draw them out. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1880.24 1881.51 Let's look at the flat case. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1882.71 1883.3 Oh. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1893.58 1899.93 The the single curved so I'm not really sure what they're gonna look like, but I think it's something like this. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1889.73 1893.58 It's from the side so it's rather normal. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1891.38 1892.05 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1891.82 1892.1 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1892.55 1892.91 Yeah. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1907.36 1916.32 So this type should be better for you or better Should prevent repetitive strain injury a bit. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1911.99 1912.48 Easier? 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1918.55 1922.74 And the double curved s looks something like this I guess. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1933.15 1933.41 Mm. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 1933.16 1936 So th those are the three options we have. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1947.09 1955.14 Uh so that elderly people can uh use the remote control and at the same time look easily at the screen,
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1938.28 1947.09 I suggest um the single curved, because maybe the curve is pretty good to put the the screen in. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1955.14 1957.59 because it's a bit, it has a bit of a angle. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1936.23 1938.28 'Kay. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1936.99 1937.19 Mm. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1955.79 1956.63 So um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1958.76 1960.4 Do you say this um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1963.28 1964.3 S uh 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1967.67 1972.66 Uh you got like uh sort of a I believe There? 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 1972.52 1972.77 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1978.49 1979.53 Or not? 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1979.53 1979.8 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1974 1978.49 So um you want to put a display over here? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1979.54 1980.3 I think so. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1980.3 1980.56 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1979.09 1979.54 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1981.41 1982.39 Um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1991.94 1992.83 This down. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1985.03 1989.45 Uh we can make it um Mm? 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1990.55 1991.94 So uh this top. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2000.43 2001.09 Um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1989.45 1990.55 That's the top. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1992.83 2000.43 Um maybe it's possible to uh make this side like um Let's see. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 1983.62 1985.03 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1984.97 1985.86 But now it's 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1986.88 1991.53 Do you have it upside down or Do you have it this that's top? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 1992.49 1992.9 Okay. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2001.96 2004.28 Colour uh okay. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2010.75 2014.25 Uh to make this side um like mm 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2018.5 2022.17 Um bit like so uh um in the form of your hand. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2022.17 2023.04 So um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2016.7 2018.5 the right colour. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2024.46 2025.45 Uh it's an 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2025.82 2026.22 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2026.95 2031.57 So so the remote control have to um lay in your hand. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2031.57 2035.36 So uh it's possib um yeah for s so and 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2034.61 2035.81 So get your mouse. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2035.81 2036.18 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2037.14 2041.51 And to put uh the the buttons for um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2042.86 2046.2 changing uh the channel uh over here uh 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2049.61 2053.86 But I think it's better to put the screen uh on top. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2046.92 2048.31 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2048.31 2049.61 That's a good one. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2049.46 2049.69 Yeah. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 2049.54 2049.69 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2054.6 2056.44 Uh rem 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2063.39 2065.92 If you can have this one, you turn it like this. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2055.63 2063.39 So just flip it a hundred and eighty degrees around then you get here. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2065.92 2067.61 And then flip it upside down. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2059.11 2061.5 Yeah but this place um 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2068.38 2070.6 Uh it's Yeah I dunno um 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2070.42 2074.9 Because uh maybe your hand is in the way, if you have the display here. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2074.03 2074.36 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 2074.3 2074.62 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 2076.52 2081.85 It's more logical to have it on top as well because, like on your mobile phone, it's always above. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2078.6 2079 I think i 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2079.05 2080.61 Yeah so 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 2081.37 2081.79 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2081.51 2081.88 On top. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2086.19 2086.69 So 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2086.92 2087.91 Yeah. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 2088.03 2090.3 Oh maybe you should just s start on a blank page. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2089.01 2092.88 So then we get 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 2090.56 2091.19 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2106.36 2108.38 Here's That's the curve. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2117.25 2118.75 Five minutes. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2122.81 2125.09 Here the display, and then buttons. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2125.09 2131.75 Yeah and then we can have a little bit off here and here maybe. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2131.75 2134.21 Just that's for left hand and right hand users. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2134.14 2134.89 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 2134.48 2134.8 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2136.08 2139.58 And then h the rest of the buttons over here. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2140.34 2144.63 But um the on-off button, um still on the top uh Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2138.92 2140.34 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2143.6 2144.98 Yeah still here jus 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2145.84 2146.11 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2146.53 2146.99 That's 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 2146.73 2149.19 And I'd prefer the corners to be round. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2149.44 2149.85 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2149.9 2150.63 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2150.63 2151.01 'Kay. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 2151.01 2151.91 Think that would be better. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2151.21 2153.44 Should be more bit more friendly, yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 2154.35 2155.16 Friendly on the eye. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2155.71 2156.25 'Kay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2159.51 2160.31 That's okay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2157.59 2159.51 Supplements. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2164.23 2164.97 Then 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2161.88 2164.23 Where's my mouse? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2180.81 2185.75 It's important that the corporate design image uh is going to be in the remote. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2175.12 2180.81 So now for the next meeting uh we'll have to look at the look-and-feel design. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2185.75 2188.19 So check out the corporate website maybe. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2169.54 2175.12 We've got a general idea of the concepts and the materials we're going to use. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2201.98 2207.71 But you're going to get your instructions I think sended by the coach. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2188.91 2192.86 The user interface design, it's the same story. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2192.86 2195.27 And product evaluation. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2195.27 2201.98 So the Industrial Designer and User Interface Designer are going to work together on this one. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2208.54 2216.42 So just um I will put these um minutes on the in the folder. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 2217.59 2217.83 Okay. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2230.07 2233.94 Which are Uh let's see. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2233.94 2242.33 I'm not sure if you're going to start right away to work together or I think you're going to fill in the questionnaires first. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2242.33 2243.61 And then you'll get a message. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2218.6 2230.07 And then we're going to uh try to finish our project, and uh make a good design for all the grandfathers and grandmothers, I think. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2241.48 2241.81 Yeah. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 2242.05 2242.54 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2243.54 2243.78 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2250.26 2252.4 Then we can save this one in the 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2244.81 2247.78 So that's uh basically it. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2247.78 2250.26 Maybe this one? 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2255.92 2256.85 folders group. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2261.73 2266.53 Uh yes, it's here. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2267.88 2272.35 So if you wanna have a look at it, it's over there in the projects folder. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2266.53 2267.88 SMARTboard, there it it. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 2263.6 2263.82 Yeah. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2272.21 2272.38 Yeah. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2274.52 2277.64 And then I guess we'll start in thirty minutes again. 
TS3003c H00 MTD009PM 2279.26 2280.11 Thank you. 
TS3003c H03 MTD012ME 2279.46 2279.88 Very good. 
TS3003c H02 MTD0010ID 2279.98 2280.28 Okay. 
TS3003c H01 MTD011UID 2280.01 2280.36 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 11.79 12.47 So 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 20.7 22.19 Hello. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 24.71 27.65 Sorry I'm a little late. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 27.65 28.91 Got stuck in the traffic. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 22.96 24.71 Good afternoon. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 26.98 27.56 No problem. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 35.51 36.65 Starts at three o'clock. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 36.65 42.11 Uh Uh, let me see. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 29.17 31.89 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 31.89 35.51 That's possible on uh this time of day. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 42.11 44.5 Our fourth and last meeting. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 37.42 37.78 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 47.74 48.7 There he is. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 51.99 52.65 Yes. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 74.73 80.27 So after this you will be uh free to go and uh spend all your money. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 62.36 70.73 And we will do some evaluation about the, not only the product, but also the project. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 70.73 74.73 And then we're going to close the project today as well. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 58.01 62.36 In this meeting we will discuss our final design. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 55.7 58.01 Okay this our last meeting. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 80.95 89.51 And this uh design, detailed design meeting uh we will discuss uh the look-and-feel of the design,
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 96.16 100.53 Um, in order to do that we have this agenda. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 89.51 96.16 the usability interface design, and we will do the product evaluation. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 108.47 111.28 Then we will look at the finance. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 104.31 108.47 Then we will set up some evaluation cri um criteria. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 118.51 122.64 Because everything costs money, and the more functions you wanna have the more money it will cost. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 122.64 128.97 So we have to see if it fits within the twelve and a half Euro per remote. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 111.28 118.51 Uh we will have to see if everything we wanna do is also possible within our budget. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 101.36 104.31 We'll have the prototype presentation first. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 131.06 136.08 Then we will do the project uh evaluation, and the closing after that. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 129.41 131.06 But we will see that later. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 143.13 144.58 But first um 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 136.08 137.97 We've got forty minutes. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 137.97 143.13 So we will be finished at half past three. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 145.8 150.59 we will do the this is prototype presentation. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 150.59 155.36 So, if some yeah if somebody wants step forward. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 153.33 153.97 Okay. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 157.91 163.18 Well this is what me and Richard came up with. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 169.14 171.43 Then there's the volume and channel selectors. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 166.3 169.14 The mute button just below that. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 163.18 166.3 The default spot for the on-off button. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 178.32 184.59 If you hold it and you press another button, uh the help goes to the L. C. D. screen. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 172.79 176.51 Simple plus-minus button. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 176.51 178.32 Uh we thought of a help button. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 192.1 194.12 A button for the subtitles. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 190.06 192.1 A button for teletext. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 194.12 195.47 And the company logo. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 185.33 190.06 Then there's the zero to one to zero buttons. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 201.08 205.09 And uh we'll have to see from testing uh how the users take it. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 196.65 201.08 So it's rather simple prototype. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 206.27 206.74 Okay. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 207.34 213.37 Um, is this the moment where we ask or can ask questions about the functionality? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 210.86 211.38 So 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 213.75 216.03 Sure uh just pop in at any time. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 214.36 214.56 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 213.99 214.36 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 216.29 225.26 Um, when you're in teletext there usually are buttons where you just you just press it and you g go to the next teletext page. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 226.94 235.2 Uh, that's just uh the normal uh as th as the normal uh remote controls uh So um 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 240.92 244.92 Now you can use the normal uh one to zero buttons. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 236.26 240.92 You put it uh you um came in uh page uh one hundred. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 244.92 252.51 And you But you can also uh use the um button th for uh changing the the channel. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 240.92 241.32 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 252.6 255.97 S so uh the shifting uh button. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 255.97 261.45 Uh for uh yeah shif shifting up in uh on t on t uh teletext, and shifting uh down. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 261.45 261.68 So 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 255.36 255.67 Okay. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 262.33 264.56 Okay. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 264.56 265.36 Um 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 267.26 267.54 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 280.33 283.64 Uh just a few buttons and large buttons. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 270.39 280.33 Uh but um I thought in a few meetings earlier we uh uh tried to keep it uh simple. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 269.19 270.39 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 283.64 289.14 But uh I think these are altogether quite a quite a few buttons. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 280.2 280.81 Oh yeah? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 291.07 295.58 So I'm wondering if we if we neely really need all of those buttons. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 297.38 298.57 I think if you look at 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 306.51 308.27 You can't drop that one. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 300 303.12 most controls, they've got more buttons than this. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 303.12 306.51 And well the on-off button, it's it's a necessity. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 308.27 313.05 The volume and channel buttons, you need you obviously need those those. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 302.83 303.38 That's right. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 303.27 303.52 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 306.52 306.69 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 306.6 306.95 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 313.43 313.92 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 322.95 331.98 I think the help button really is necessary because there's no other way to know when someone wants to know what a button does. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 314.35 320.14 The mute button could be replaced uh by pressing the volume-down button twice. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 320.14 322.95 So we could cancel that one. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 326.64 327.23 Yeah yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 334.71 335.5 Mm. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 348.41 353.36 So uh they just put in uh put press uh the button and uh 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 334.76 340.76 Uh, or you can build in uh when you press uh one button uh uh Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 344.3 348.41 But uh we think uh old people uh don't know that uh option. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 340.76 342.58 But m Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 342.58 344.3 We disc discuss that already. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 340.73 341.43 If you put 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 338.73 340.08 Long time. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 340.08 340.73 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 355.72 356.22 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 354.72 355.72 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 356.6 357.96 Well, you can't 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 359.3 361.07 leave out the number buttons I guess. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 361.06 361.42 And uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 365.67 366.08 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 362.78 365.67 Uh teletext and subtitles are yeah necessary. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 361.37 362.78 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 362.63 363.13 And 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 364.35 365.81 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 365.81 367.75 So it's rather basic already. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 364.71 364.98 Oh. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 365.09 365.37 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 368.18 368.94 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 370.09 371.27 That's what I pointed out earlier. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 368.94 370.09 Think so. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 371.27 375.8 If you just make a control for just the T. V. there's just not much to gain here. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 375.66 375.85 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 376.01 376.41 Yep. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 378.02 378.77 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 378.77 383 So we had somebody about th interfa Something about the design of the buttons there? 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 387.07 398.17 But they're supposed to be equal sized, round, with a with a little logo on it for the for the volume, the the triangle and stuff. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 398.17 399.22 Just for recognition. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 383.38 387.07 Yeah, they're It's rather hard to draw on the white-board. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 384.52 385.95 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 385.95 386.5 Yeah, it 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 384.53 386.6 Just n normal plain buttons. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 397.12 398.7 Just to recognise it, so uh 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 396.21 397.12 Yeah yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 396.54 398.01 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 398.01 398.43 'Kay. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 399.39 402.52 Uh yeah and now we don't need uh LEDs or um 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 402.83 403.3 No. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 403.56 412.16 Y uh s some uh remote controls uh do it also, but um uh because we use the little display we don't uh have to use it. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 412.16 413.53 Uh so 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 407.12 407.55 No. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 413.99 414.5 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 412.94 413.99 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 421.6 423.26 So they jump out. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 418.6 421.6 With a a different colour than the case. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 414.53 418.6 So and for the materials we've just chosen for rubber buttons. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 417.84 418.16 Nay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 418.75 418.95 Yep. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 435.83 441.03 which is pretty exciting, to see if it's all possible what we wanna do. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 428.59 435.83 Then because we only have thirty minutes left, I will move on to the finance part,
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 427.7 428.59 That's nice. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 441.03 443.13 And I can tell you 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 425.16 427.7 Okay. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 425.3 426.72 And uh that's about it. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 445.14 451.84 that we're going to have a pretty hard time producing this for twelve and a half Euros. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 453.54 453.85 Mm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 454.2 460.93 If we see I don't know if I've filled in correctly, so just correct me if you see uh something wrong. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 462.75 464.49 But maybe we can also use one. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 460.93 462.75 I counted two batteries. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 464.49 465.71 I don't know if it's possible. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 465.13 466.24 Since it rechargeable. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 466.88 467.78 It's rechargeable. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 467.78 468.29 That's right. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 467.88 469.89 Yeah we can u just uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 477.71 479.64 So there's not much to uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 471.59 472.8 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 472.8 475.69 That's two Euros off. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 475.69 477.71 We need the advanced chip. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 474.77 475.48 'Kay. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 478.04 478.45 Yep. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 481.84 484.45 to save there. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 486.74 493.3 Uh we can see that the difference between uncurved and the single curved is one Euro. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 484.45 486.74 Here we have the single curves. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 493.3 494.16 Um, 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 492.78 493.35 Mm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 495.67 506.3 I don't know, but I think the single curved is good for design, and also for the display to have a prominent place on the remote control. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 506.3 507.71 I think we have to keep that. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 500.35 500.83 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 505.85 506.25 Yes. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 507.6 507.79 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 508.94 512.07 Then we have the case material supplements. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 518.92 522.53 But then the biggest costs are the buttons. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 515.51 518.92 So that's uh not much to save either. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 512.07 512.88 It's plastic. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 512.88 515.51 It's the cheapest one we need. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 531.24 538.46 Because you have to we will have to get the twelve and a half Euros at the end. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 538.46 539.22 Um, 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 523.09 531.24 So maybe we really should try to discard some buttons to uh keep our costs low. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 527.01 527.66 Okay. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 530.79 531 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 544.98 547.41 Because I Sixteen. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 540.91 544.98 so if we Let's fir first count the buttons we have now. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 547.41 551.71 Nah, that will be even more then. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 551.71 552.82 Eighteen Euros. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 543.35 543.8 Uh 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 545.04 546.4 Sixteen, I believe so. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 556.26 556.97 So, 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 556.47 557.37 Uh seventeen. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 558.37 559.04 seventeen. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 558.84 559.37 Um 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 559.58 560.74 Uh with the help button. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 565.77 569.73 I think we can uh discard the help and the mute button 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 562.21 563.63 Okay, including the help? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 564.16 565.77 Uh seventeen. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 563.63 564.16 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 562.3 562.61 Yep. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 563.03 563.41 Damn. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 563.58 563.8 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 570.92 575.77 uh by pressing down volume long, or pressing down a a number 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 577.11 577.33 Yep. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 578.37 581.57 That saves us uh one Euro already. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 581.57 583.47 'Cause then we have got fifteen I think? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 577.58 578.37 long. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 583.29 583.54 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 584.79 586.04 Wouldn't Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 586.64 587.37 That wouldn't be an option. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 586.04 586.64 No. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 585.67 587.29 Fifteen buttons. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 589.11 590.03 And this is 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 589.28 594.35 Uh, d I assume you'd count the volume and channel thingies for two buttons each, right? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 594.59 596.38 No those are one, I think. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 595.75 596.09 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 597.66 600.16 Well, think actually there're two buttons, aren't they? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 597.97 598.9 Where did uh 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 599.55 601.7 Uh, it's just one button. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 601.7 603.36 But, um 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 605.12 608.09 There were uh two uh for one big button. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 608.09 612.78 But they are uh more expensive than the small ones. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 612.78 614.47 Uh, yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 604.47 605.12 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 614.47 615.12 So 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 614.4 617.61 Yeah but th it's not stated in this files. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 617.61 625.82 So maybe we can we can even make one button with the volume and the channel in one, by pressing 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 616.47 619.22 It's just a. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 625.1 628.91 Well I was thinking, maybe you could just integrate three of those numbers to one button. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 630.46 631.89 That's possibility as well. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 632.08 634.02 That would cut the cost. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 634.97 637.47 So And it's good for the design as well. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 637.47 638.44 So you can make 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 639.82 642.53 Uh let's see. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 642.53 643.73 If you make this 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 658.54 662.83 Looks a bit like uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 664.33 666.04 a cross. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 671.64 672.23 Min. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 670.56 671.64 Plus. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 674.62 678.14 But I don't don't know if if it's cheaper. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 678.14 685.08 So uh, we've still got four buttons, but just um So 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 679.38 679.94 Yeah w 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 677.33 679.38 Uh s yeah channel. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 685.02 687.55 Yeah th I think they count uh the materials. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 687.38 693.93 You got uh not not a butt button itself, but uh on the um 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 694.34 694.6 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 692.79 694.34 Yeah on the chip there. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 698.25 698.77 So 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 693.96 694.29 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 694.29 698.25 On the chip you've got still uh four uh four buttons. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 694.59 694.91 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 695.88 696.17 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 697.1 697.59 That's right. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 696.4 697.1 That's right. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 698.45 698.87 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 704.76 706.12 But No but I think 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 698.93 704.76 But I think because we have the advanced chip we can just count this as one button. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 701.87 702.7 Yeah, but 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 705.64 708.49 But, I think this really is four buttons anyhow. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 709.17 709.69 Yes. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 728.07 731.66 I think they uh try t 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 711.7 713.6 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 721.1 728.07 Also the L. C. display, I think it's, I think it's too expensive for the display we use. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 713.6 721.1 Maybe it is, but then it seems to me that it's impossible to get the twelve and a half Euros. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 721.44 721.99 Yes. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 723.86 725.31 Uh that's that's a big cost. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 731.67 735.89 If we leave out the display we can also save money on the chip. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 737.89 745.35 That's right, but what's the big advantage of our remote then? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 745.39 746.89 Only the docking station, I guess. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 747.79 748.31 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 749.86 754.02 Which isn't the the docking station isn't even in this c s schematic. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 755.41 756.79 No. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 759.46 759.92 That's right. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 758.58 759.46 That's extra. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 756.79 758.58 That's extra. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 755.42 757.99 So it's not even taken into the price. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 760.79 762.47 Maybe we should to a different supplier. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 771.08 776.25 Don't you think we can, if we can count this as v as one button,
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 776.25 783.35 and integrate th uh these buttons in three, then we save a lot of money as well. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 763.29 765.77 That's an option. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 768.64 771.08 Polish supplier. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 765.77 766.7 Poland. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 766.7 768.64 Something. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 767.74 768.76 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 784.39 789.09 But would it make the remote more usable for elderly people? 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 782.53 784.39 We we could save money on it. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 789.98 792.13 Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 791.61 794.32 My mother can't even send send an S. M. S. message. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 795.54 796.2 So 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 796.48 797.29 That's a point. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 795.71 796.48 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 798.12 798.77 Um 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 803.23 804.03 So um 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 798.53 803.23 Are we gonna buy a um a remote control uh when you can uh use it? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 805.86 806.28 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 807.95 819.05 We m uh we must um stay below the um below um twelve uh fifty or Can't uh go um 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 816.6 816.88 Yep. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 816.71 816.9 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 819.47 819.82 No. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 821.55 823.4 Well, since the market research 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 824.53 834.39 indicated that older people spend their money easier, more easy, maybe it's feasible to just put the price of the remote up a little. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 834.39 837.15 Especially since we have those nice features. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 835.49 835.78 Nay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 847.58 849.93 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 842.16 847.58 We don't have any more budget to develop it. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 838.22 842.16 Yeah but uh we have to stick to the twelve and a half Euros. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 849.93 850.56 So 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 847.16 847.41 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 845.37 847.16 The margin will get too small. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 845.65 846.75 Is it impossible to 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 849.79 853.08 But it is possible to make one uh for uh twelve fifty. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 854.05 854.86 I don't think so. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 859.13 861.88 And if you use less buttons. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 855.21 859.13 If you leave out the L. C. display. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 854.51 855.21 It is. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 855.27 857.61 It would be a be a pretty rigid one. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 856.51 856.81 S 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 860.45 860.73 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 863.08 868.24 Say Or you can take the single chip. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 864.45 864.72 Ten. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 864.75 867.69 But, you can't use uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 871.26 874.45 There it is. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 872.34 872.67 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 875.47 876.98 But we want to make a 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 877.08 883.26 uh so uh uh fancy and a good uh Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 877.71 878.76 But then w 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 883.91 884.66 Good looking. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 884.38 887.09 Uh, wi with n Oh, with uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 889.13 889.46 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 895.71 896.16 So 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 889.32 890.83 attractive uh o options. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 890.83 895.71 So uh, you can stay uh below uh twelve fifty. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 896.24 898.5 I think it's uh difficult as well, but 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 896.59 896.91 Or b 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 898.31 909.13 Basically becoming a choice between like either a good remote and a higher production cost, or just any other remote control. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 907.2 908.59 No remote. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 909.76 916.06 Or we can leave out the ten buttons and take one scroll wheel for the programme numbers. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 917.53 918.62 Scroll-wheel's one. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 917.65 919.92 That's 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 917.74 918.15 Then w 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 927.97 930.82 If we have this one and we've got the advanced 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 918.95 921.55 Because then we save ten buttons. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 926.04 927.97 And and see. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 921.55 926.04 Then we have five and one. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 919.64 920.17 No, it 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 921.62 921.96 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 933.81 936.74 W uh, we're getting close. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 934.3 935.35 We're getting closer. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 935.76 936.66 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 938.2 940.17 But how does scroll-wheel work here? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 943.14 944.54 Then you will 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 948.17 949.56 Or maybe you can 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 952.17 954.16 um scroll. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 954.16 958.56 If you scroll you will see the numbers on the L. C. D. display. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 958.56 960.61 Until you've got the right number, then you push it. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 958.91 959.18 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 961.46 964.47 That would bring up the price of the scroll-wheel also. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 965.64 965.99 Alright. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 965.99 968 It's gotta scroll and push. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 968 972.89 Okay but then you you can push uh some other button as well. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 965.74 968.36 Integrated scroll-wheel push-button. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 968.36 969.23 But Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 966.74 966.93 Mm. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 973.81 976.08 You could just not scroll for a half a second. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 976.69 977.73 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 978.11 982.88 So if you scroll to a number and then you wait a half second, then it g turns to that channel. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 977.73 978.11 That's right. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 977.48 979.15 So you won't need a button. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 982.58 985.23 I think that would be like the end of our usability. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 994.12 996.34 And we need the battery. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 985.34 994.12 But it would definitely crop cost, a lot. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 985.7 987.25 D yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 991.89 992.67 Yeah, but 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1004.4 1005.41 It has to be advanced? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1001.14 1004.4 And the regular chip is not possible? 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1006.79 1010.41 If you want to use an L. C. D. screen you you need an advanced chip, yes. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1008.79 1010.28 It has to be advanced. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1012.91 1016.74 And we can save a Euro by a flat design. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1010.28 1010.88 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1010.88 1012.91 Okay. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1010.19 1010.48 Hmm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1019.94 1025.1 That's an option we can Then we're almost there. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1021.27 1021.5 Yep. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1021.71 1022.09 Ja ja. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1026.11 1029.42 Yeah if you v could just leave out one more button. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1032.21 1033.13 So if we 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1030.78 1032.21 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1033.24 1036.43 Yeah, or we have to uh skip the subtitle uh button. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1036.59 1037.05 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1037.11 1040.97 Yeah but I think that's That is a big advantage, if we're 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1037.51 1038.96 So Yeah 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1040.4 1042.03 Yeah it's a big advantage. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1042.03 1044.45 But um, it's 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1042.21 1042.76 But 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1043.76 1047.8 Can we use can't we integrate the teletext and the subtitles in one button? 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1049.33 1049.57 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1048.45 1049.33 I think so. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1048.54 1049.24 Uh, yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1058.92 1060.58 But the subtitles stay there. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1049.8 1058.92 Well, think it's pretty much the teletext subtitles are right now you just push the teletext button, go to page eight eight eight, and teletext disappears. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1049.86 1051.81 If you push it three times? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1051.4 1051.85 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1057.14 1057.75 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1057.72 1058.02 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1061.63 1064.2 But if you push the teletext button twice 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1062.39 1063.87 I think that's the case on most 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1067.06 1070.15 Eight hundred eighty eight. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1062.63 1067.06 What if you have to scroll to page eighty eight? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1065.93 1066.49 It's uh 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1068.91 1071.8 One m uh one b uh, a few buttons. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1068.99 1070.35 Ah that's not really that 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1069.64 1074.98 Well, that could be just uh like the scroll to eight, click, scroll to eight, click, scroll to eight, click. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1075.4 1076.15 Okay. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1075.11 1075.4 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1076.92 1083.76 But then again that would be d j just pretty much not an option for older people, who don't even know what a scroll-wheel is. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1082.29 1083 No. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1084.15 1084.66 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1085.35 1086.04 Holding a 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1085.73 1086.23 No. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1087.79 1093.49 remote with which they expect to have like ten buttons for the numbers one to zero. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1096.35 1097.61 With only five buttons on it. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1099.76 1100.54 And a scroll-wheel. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1101.85 1114.58 I think if you make a good advertisement uh on television and in the in the guide, you can explain to the people how to use the scroll wheel. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1115.84 1117.38 If you just make it real simple. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1126.22 1127.98 How to use the scroll wheel. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1122.75 1126.22 And we can keep our L. C. D. screen, which can provide extra information. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1127.98 1130.97 How to use the other bu buttons as subtitles. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1120.92 1122.75 Because it saves it saves a lot of money. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1129.3 1129.59 True. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1128.74 1129.3 True. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1131 1131.18 Hmm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1138.7 1140.54 If you would erase these. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1133.17 1138.7 And it's good for the innovative design as well. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1142.66 1144.55 Mm eraser? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1157.61 1159.36 And we put uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1167.03 1169.7 Looks a bit odd maybe. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1170.02 1171.43 That's a pretty big scroll wheel. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1182.02 1182.83 That is 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1197.25 1203.01 One, two, three, four, five buttons, if we erase this one. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1191.1 1193.89 Something like that. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1193.89 1196.27 Then, yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1196.27 1197.25 We've got the scroll-wheel. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1215.15 1216.59 And these are two buttons then. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1227.25 1231.25 We could make two buttons out of that. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1231.25 1232.99 And just um 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1234.33 1238.2 If you press the volume button you can control the volume with the scroll-wheel. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1236.15 1236.35 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1239.89 1241.6 So that would save two buttons. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1241.6 1242.91 If you do the same for the channel. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1241.9 1242.35 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1243.84 1247.04 That's really a good good idea, I think. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1252 1257.42 And it will make the use of the scroll wheel uh more obvious indeed. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1255.41 1256.14 More obvious. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1259.8 1264.4 So we make one for the volume, one for the channel. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1271.82 1275.4 Plus scroll. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1276.16 1278.73 So we've got one, two, three. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1275.4 1276.16 That's right. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1278.73 1282.46 Yeah, we can leave the teletext in if we want. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1274.99 1275.88 So if we 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1283.84 1284.41 So 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1282.78 1283.84 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1283.14 1283.31 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1283.59 1284.84 That's m that's better. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1284.98 1286.21 So this is five buttons. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1285.75 1291.9 If we leave out all those buttons, perhaps you can go with the flat flat case. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1291.9 1293.5 And make it smaller overall. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1295.2 1304.93 So if you put the the volume and channel buttons on the same height as the on-off button, the screen right behi under that, than the scroll button 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1295.28 1295.8 Y yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1301.83 1302.36 Mm yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1305.25 1307.06 Uh yeah, and then you can 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1306.23 1308.01 you get a a much smaller remote. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1308.11 1308.45 Uh yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1308.48 1309.03 That's right. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1310.28 1310.56 And it 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1311.41 1312 So we can 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1311.62 1311.9 sh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1313.32 1315.99 decrease this one to four buttons. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1317.08 1317.39 Yeah? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1317.65 1318.84 Right now we have five. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1318.4 1327.37 But uh, you can make a f quite a big uh remote remote control for uh just the same price as a small one. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1331.54 1333.8 It uh it's a bit uh 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1327.37 1331.54 Just uh you only have to pay for the double curved or single curved. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1327.77 1328.65 That's no problem. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1327.12 1327.77 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1332.22 1332.71 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1338.91 1341.49 Single curved is really easy to just fill in. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1344.4 1349.32 And single curved you have to have a different uh different machine, than a flat one. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1334.1 1334.3 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1341.49 1344.4 And cases come right out of the machine. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1334.3 1338.91 It's uh it's more the moulds in which they are being made, I think. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1339.24 1339.67 Mm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1350.87 1353.49 I think this is a really easy one. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1353.49 1354.25 Um, 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1362.04 1363.68 Freek, what do you think? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1355.71 1362.04 what does everybody think about a flat or a single curved design? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1364.74 1368.03 Well, I still think we should go for the single curve design. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1368.03 1370.08 But then again, 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1368 1368.4 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1371.71 1372.23 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1370 1371.71 Richard's argument was very good. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1370.87 1374.51 all these changes are not really okay with me. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1374.51 1376.01 But since 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1370.99 1371.24 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1371.48 1371.73 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1373.9 1374.25 Yep. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1379.76 1380.75 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1377.07 1379.76 We have to cut costs. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1380.75 1381.34 Yeah I'm ag 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1377.69 1378.65 we just have to. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1378.52 1378.79 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1380.97 1382.55 I'd rather just go to the board and 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1384.48 1385.44 Ask for more money. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1384.9 1387.82 get us to spend eighteen dollars a a remote. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1386.93 1387.35 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1388.86 1390.61 I am agreeing with the usability. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1388.52 1388.86 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1390.61 1390.75 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1389.28 1392.28 Or do some market research and see what the options are. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1412.34 1415.83 It will be necessary to have good help function, as well. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1398.67 1404.23 Just to express our L. C. D. screen a bit more. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1404.23 1412.34 So people will use it more, and especially for the help functions, it will be good if we have scroll bar, scroll button. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1393.81 1395.63 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1395.63 1398.67 But th um I think we can then keep the single curved one. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1403.4 1403.68 Yep. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1403.4 1403.72 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1404.32 1404.57 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1423.86 1425.53 So this is scroll. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1440.3 1444.12 Before we went on to the to the whole design. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1436.29 1440.3 I think it was better to have this price list a bit earlier. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1440.44 1441.19 Yes. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1441.19 1442.04 Definitely. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1441.66 1442.15 The th 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1445.56 1445.98 But 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1446.94 1448.52 I'm glad we could make a bit. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1450.53 1450.89 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1451.38 1454.87 It's pretty different, if you saw the last one than this one. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1453.62 1459.59 But this is not really like for the group we were making our remote. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1459.59 1461.52 This will really require a lot of marketing 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1452.32 1453.62 It's pretty different. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1458.81 1459.03 No. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1463.01 1463.58 It will. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1462.52 1463.01 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1463.22 1464.82 to get this to sell. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1465.64 1465.85 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1467.18 1468.81 But um 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1467.99 1472.97 'Cause if older people like familiar forms and familiar stuff. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1472.97 1474.26 This is not familiar for them. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1475.66 1476.92 No, but I think 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1476.16 1478.3 So we're gonna have to do a lotta convincing them. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1478.24 1479.21 I think the most 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1486.9 1488.48 So maybe it's uh 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1482.45 1486.9 Uh they cal also uh buttons like that for uh changing uh channels. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1479.23 1482.45 But they know the scroll-buttons from uh old radios. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1485.53 1485.95 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1485.54 1487.13 That's right. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1490.57 1494.8 Like a old old buttons. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1487.13 1490.57 We can let l We can stick it out, a bit. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1497.09 1497.61 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1494.8 1497.09 Maybe that's recognisable for them as well. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1497.61 1498.82 That's a good one. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1491.45 1492.24 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1492.24 1492.56 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1496.68 1496.92 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1507.89 1514.61 If they see this design they think oh, there are only five buttons, and uh But we will see. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1503.8 1507.89 And it's uh it's b uh less frightening, I think. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1499.52 1503.8 So, I'm afraid we have to move on. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1513.69 1514.05 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1513.89 1514.36 That's true. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1514.36 1515.8 Might uh might be confusing too. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1516.15 1517.1 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1517.1 1518.04 That's definitely right. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1517.2 1518.05 They'd be like, what? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1518.05 1519.06 Only five buttons? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1517.25 1517.76 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1520.23 1520.65 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1521.56 1523.41 But very special, so uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1524.95 1527.52 I would buy it. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1527.3 1529.44 But you're not sixty. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1526.46 1527.3 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1531.82 1533.85 No I don't know. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1528.29 1529.52 That's right. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1535.83 1536.36 No? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1533.85 1535.83 What it costs under twelve and a half Euros? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1529.52 1531.82 I would buy it if I was six. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1537.54 1539.39 Uh, yes they are. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1539.98 1541.63 No. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1540.66 1541.28 No. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1541.28 1545.9 But we can go on with the project evaluation. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1546.63 1546.94 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1549.64 1550.7 Let's see. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1551.85 1555.19 We still have fifteen minutes left, so we're nice on schedule. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1550.7 1551.85 I can sit down I think. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1555.76 1556.32 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1557.34 1560.17 Um, the project process. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1560.26 1563.94 So um, I like set up all these criteria. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1564.62 1566.42 And evaluation of the 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1567.03 1569.72 That was the the point I forgot. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1564.73 1566.54 Evaluation criteria. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1566.54 1567.03 That's right. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1568.05 1568.46 thingy. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1570.73 1571.48 I should 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1576.98 1579.38 Go ahead. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1579.38 1584.06 We've got five minutes I think for those criteria. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1574.16 1576.98 Evaluation criteria. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1573.09 1574.16 There we are. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1584.06 1585.95 No we've got fifteen minutes but 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1575.64 1577.36 Thank you. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1582.26 1583.39 Five more minutes? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1585.68 1586.16 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1597.33 1597.42 What? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1596.54 1597.33 Uh yes. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1603.1 1608.65 'Kay so I did some literature study study, and analysis of the requirements we set up earlier. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1608.99 1609.39 Uh yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1621.37 1622.32 Uh, easy to use? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1619.05 1621.37 What new functions are there? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1609.7 1613.47 Translated it into criteria, which would be these. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1613.47 1615.84 Um, is the remote fancy? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1615.84 1617.56 The shape, look and feel. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1617.56 1619.05 Innovative? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1629.52 1633.17 Are there not too many functions uh among the functions? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1623.6 1627.41 Uh, learnability is a very important factor here. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1637.4 1638.25 And the cost. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1633.17 1637.4 And are the those functions that are there, are they useful? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1627.41 1629.52 Uh, is it functional? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1646.17 1649.98 And recognability. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1640.8 1641.62 The target group. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1641.62 1646.17 Is the remote really for the group we're making it for? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1649.98 1655.36 If our company is If it is easily recognisable that our company made it? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1657.05 1657.58 And 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1659.03 1660.81 So we're supposed to evaluate it right now. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1661.82 1662.15 Okay. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1664.23 1664.71 Let's see. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1667.41 1672.6 Oh I have to say this was a little hard, because the minutes of our last meeting 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1673.71 1674.25 were not here. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1679.47 1684.09 I tried to but it's uh it's giving errors by downloading the software. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1674.19 1679.47 Yeah, that's because my pen failed to upload his data. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1674.77 1674.99 Mm. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1677.99 1678.43 Okay. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1678.14 1678.87 Yeah? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1679.47 1680.09 Interesting. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1683.31 1685.04 So 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1684.08 1686.23 Mm. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1686.23 1686.98 'Kay. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1687.14 1690.01 Is the design fancy, on a scale of one to seven? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1690.37 1691.51 I think it's fancy. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1692.56 1693.14 Six. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1693.45 1693.58 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1694.28 1695.15 Uh six. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1695.15 1695.36 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1696.35 1696.6 Good. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1694.52 1696.35 We all go for six? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1695.27 1695.64 Six. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1701.05 1703.92 Um, is the design innovative? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1706.85 1709.12 Subtitles, buttons. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1709.12 1710.25 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1712.95 1717.63 So we've got twenty cents for our docking station, huh? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1711.89 1712.95 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1710.25 1711.89 Seven. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1704.37 1706.85 Very. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1704.43 1705.61 Mm. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1705.61 1706.1 Sh 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1705.1 1709.29 I think so, with our L. C. D. screen, docking station, scroll-buttons. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1709.82 1710.12 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1711.02 1711.41 Seven? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1711.66 1711.87 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1716.91 1720.3 Should be do-able. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1720.3 1721.81 Is the design easy to use? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1719.5 1720.07 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1720.07 1720.54 That's right. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1722.42 1722.93 Mm. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1722.93 1723.54 Not really. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1723.08 1725.77 That's a bit dodgy. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1725.62 1726.21 Well 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1727.8 1728.79 Would be for us. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1728.79 1729.29 But 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1729.71 1731.13 For old people I I 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1734.31 1735.28 Between four or five. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1732.79 1734.31 Four or five between. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1730.37 1732.79 I would say four. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1732.89 1733.19 Yes. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1732.11 1732.89 Four or five. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1733.79 1734.4 Four. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1732.14 1733.79 W Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1735.79 1736.66 I'd go for four, too. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1736.65 1736.85 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1736.91 1737.13 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1741.39 1742.36 Is it functional? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1744.38 1747.14 Um, do we have all functions that we want to include? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1742.71 1744.38 Is the design functional? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1747.81 1748.47 Yes. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1748.13 1748.66 N Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1749.43 1751.51 Do we have too many functions? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1752.35 1753.2 It's pretty slim. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1748.49 1749.43 I think we do. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1751.51 1752.35 I don't think so. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1750.88 1751.31 No. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1751.27 1751.75 No. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1751.36 1751.58 No. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1752.87 1754.1 Think it's uh seven. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1755.64 1756 Seven. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1758.44 1759.9 Oh, and do we um 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1766.76 1768.33 Like it getting lost and 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1762.01 1766.76 take care of the biggest frustrations of the remote control? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1769.28 1770.45 Mm m 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1769.83 1773.01 R. S. I. influences? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1773.01 1773.51 Think we do. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1769.88 1771.47 Mm, we haven't thought of that one. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1773.73 1775.14 I had them worked out. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1772.35 1773.73 It was. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1777.76 1779.05 Mm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1779.05 1782.76 They are ugly, not very functional, and getting lost. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1787.7 1788.49 Well they are now. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1785.13 1787.7 Are the production costs within the preset limits? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1785.3 1785.66 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1789.64 1789.85 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1794.99 1796.98 Does the design fit the group of focus? 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1798.51 1800.14 I think that's a three. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1798.81 1800.54 Mm, th yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1799.74 1801.38 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1801.38 1802.3 I think it doesn't. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1800.97 1804.96 No I think with our new radio button, I think it's uh 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1802.71 1803.05 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1805.61 1806.11 Uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1806.01 1806.79 I think it's better. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1807.49 1809.61 We have to test it s But 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1808.15 1808.79 I don't know. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1814.12 1815.85 Too too flashy. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1809.17 1814.12 I still I think it's too m too fancy. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1810.91 1811.52 I think 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1811.67 1812.28 I think it 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1815.18 1820.34 I think a radio button is not exactly what older people expect to have a remote control. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1820.37 1821.51 Uh, yeah, true. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1821.73 1822.03 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1823.91 1824.95 I would give it a four. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1830.36 1831.72 I think I'd go for two. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1829.89 1830.36 I'm not sure. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1832.16 1833.13 I go for three. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1833.13 1833.96 So 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1835.43 1836.56 It's the 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1833.65 1835.43 Then we have to do the three. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1835.63 1835.97 'Kay. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1846.32 1847.38 Well, we have the logo there. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1843.52 1846.32 Is the company company recognisable? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1847.37 1847.72 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1845.83 1847.37 Yes it is. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1846 1846.59 Yeah yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1848.82 1849.31 So 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1862.5 1865.26 So, I think it's very recognisable. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1858.2 1862.5 And we have the removable front cases. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1852.46 1856.57 And they wanna put fashion in their products. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1865.26 1865.42 Yep. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1856.57 1858.2 Uh in the slogan of the company. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1862.16 1862.36 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1862.62 1862.91 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1870.38 1871.39 So that will be this. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1875.47 1877.62 I was also supposed to calculate the score, but 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1879.04 1883.53 thought we would have another private thingy after this. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1881.92 1883.02 We've got a calculate it. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1884.46 1884.65 Mm? 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1885.3 1888.06 Twendag sieven an twendag. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1886.1 1887.85 Is this Like after this, are we done? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1887.85 1888.28 Or 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1889.13 1891.59 N We've gonna We're going to evaluate it. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1889.62 1891 We're gonna go to our other room again. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1892.54 1893.35 Well, anyhow. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1893.35 1895.67 These are seven factors times seven is forty 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1897.09 1897.81 something. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1897.81 1898.07 Two? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1899.7 1900.05 Nine? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1899.26 1899.7 No. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1899.78 1901.59 Forty nine. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1902.45 1903.56 Uh, minus one. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1906.99 1909.64 Minus three, minus four. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1910.89 1911.57 Minus four. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1913.32 1914.99 So that would be minus eight. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1916.35 1918.34 Forty one out of forty nine. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1916.94 1917.5 Forty one. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1919.69 1920.46 That's 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1927.23 1927.69 What is it? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1925.88 1927.23 Around eighty percent. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1926.12 1926.66 Okay. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1928.57 1931.34 Guess I'll just type that in on the bottom here. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1934.62 1937.34 That's eighty four percent. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1942.99 1945.31 I think that's a pretty nice score. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1943.01 1943.61 Hmm. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1945.66 1945.94 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1945.96 1946.19 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1959.15 1960.2 'Kay. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1957.45 1959.15 Hmm. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1960.2 1961.71 So that will be the evaluation. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1961.99 1962.64 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1962.64 1963.09 Thank you. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1966.32 1966.9 So, 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1968.33 1970.91 that brings us to the project evaluation. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1975.04 1975.23 Yep. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1976.29 1978.03 Thank you. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1978.03 1979.69 Project process. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1982.84 1983.84 Along the process? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1979.69 1982.84 Did we move through the right phases, you think? 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1984.74 1985.27 Yes. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1985.74 1986.55 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1986.55 1987.06 But it 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1986.76 1991.45 Think we should have a should have had the finance thingy a lot earlier. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1991.39 1991.61 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1992.15 1992.6 That's right. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1993.41 1994.42 In the design phase. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 1995.22 1997.92 So lack of information about prices. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 1998.36 1998.58 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1998.53 1999.91 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 1999.91 2000.38 That's true. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 1998.6 1998.79 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2000.08 2000.66 Definitely. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2000.83 2001.29 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2003.81 2004.84 Uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2010.44 2011.39 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2011.39 2013.27 Satisfaction. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2013.27 2014.62 Was there room for creativity? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2014.88 2015.09 No. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2016.36 2019.97 No? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2021.71 2021.85 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2019.97 2021.71 It's because of the finance sheet. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2018.4 2019.03 No. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2017.63 2018.4 Not too much. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2021.43 2021.8 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2021.82 2024.34 Yeah, there w there was enough room, but the finance uh 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2023.35 2023.82 But 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2022.78 2023.35 Yeah, true. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2023.94 2025.19 The room was Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2024.39 2024.71 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2029.86 2031.57 And I would've liked to go for the 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2032.74 2034.2 younger users also. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2036.38 2038.33 And just to be able to access internet and 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2040.02 2040.98 get something of your own. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2041.85 2042 Mm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2044.16 2045.3 Restrictions. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2049.85 2050.92 Internet access. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2053.33 2055.1 'Kay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2056.64 2062.92 Was it clear what everybody had to do uh according to their roles and functions? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2055.1 2056.64 Leadership. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2064.34 2064.83 Yes. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2064.36 2064.61 Yeah? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2064.37 2064.58 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2064.77 2065 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2069.16 2072.81 Also, you two of you with the uh last phase? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2068.19 2069.16 Working together? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2066.54 2067.02 Teamwork? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2067.02 2068.19 Did it work out? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2067.03 2067.71 So 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2071.48 2072.15 Yes, was okay. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2072.21 2072.54 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2074.65 2075.26 Nice. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2081.14 2086.87 The tasks are very structured, so you can just do step by step and it's very easy. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2085.52 2086.03 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2085.82 2086.15 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2089.23 2090.34 tasks. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2091.81 2092.15 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2096.65 2098.54 Or were they too much? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2093.63 2096.65 Were the means sufficient for the tasks uh we had to do? 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2099.5 2104.14 Well, the smart-board, the d d drawing is just a pain in the ass, but 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2099.91 2100.48 Mm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2105.36 2106.17 Smart-board. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2105.51 2107.73 The digital the digital pen is very nice. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2107.64 2107.85 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2108.71 2112.27 If it wants to download its uh data. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2109.12 2110.61 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2110.61 2111.21 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2109.31 2109.84 But 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2111 2111.25 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2110.55 2111 Yes. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2111.19 2111.78 Uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2117.92 2119.23 Failed download. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2123.84 2127.19 Smart-board was irritating. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2136.63 2138.62 Or something else? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2132.86 2136.63 So you rather wanted to have a flip-over? 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2138.11 2141.1 A flip-over or a more precise uh 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2138.4 2138.65 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2138.65 2140.34 A flipper's uh easier, so 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2141.52 2141.78 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2142.04 2142.32 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2142.35 2144.03 Faster as well, I think. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2144.03 2144.54 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2142.61 2143.61 digit Yes. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2149.52 2150.06 Flip-over. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2166.88 2173.21 or uh uh in shared f uh folder or uh sh uh shared directory. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2150.07 2159.98 But if you want to share uh of uh when you make um a picture like this uh on the presentation 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2163.02 2166.88 Uh so uh you can sh save it uh and uh put it on the internet 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2159.98 2163.02 it's easier to uh share it with uh other people. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2173.21 2173.62 So 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2164.01 2164.34 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2172.64 2175.73 Yeah, I tried to open the file on my laptop, but 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2176.17 2176.44 No? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2174.52 2176.17 So Yeah? 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2176.26 2176.9 Didn't work. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2175.73 2176.26 No. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2176.71 2177.62 not possible. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2177.29 2181.17 Uh you need a smart board uh application I think. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2179.8 2180.13 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2182.19 2185.71 T can uh can you export it uh like a Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2182.59 2184.63 But I think you can Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2184.63 2186.06 Should be possible. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2186.06 2187.6 Yeah you can export it as image. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2185.11 2185.78 no. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2188.65 2190.36 Must Yeah must be 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2190 2190.96 Should've done that then. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2193.71 2196.73 So the sharing of the information was uh was okay? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2198.12 2198.63 Pen is here. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2198.64 2199.15 Yes. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2199.73 2201.41 Yeah, pen is here on the table. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2198.65 2199.73 Uh, network. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2198.92 2199.31 Uh. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2206.88 2208.94 Uh, yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2211.44 2213.48 So you can Uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2212.56 2215.53 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2215.53 2216.16 It's possible. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2215.46 2216.27 Mm. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2216.27 2216.52 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2215.57 2216.19 It's possible. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2217.62 2217.96 Okay. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2218.91 2219.26 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2221.6 2223.83 Have we found new ideas for 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2220.26 2221.6 That's nice. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2225.51 2227.19 having this kind of meetings? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2227.19 2227.56 Or 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2228.3 2238.99 Um, yeah maybe um uh when we n uh just uh give the numbers of of uh 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2240.17 2250.98 Uh uh o one of uh out of s uh sev Um it's uh easier to uh to do the th things that are like that on a computer. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2250.98 2255.64 Uh, so uh just l uh like uh at u university uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2243.3 2243.75 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2250.87 2251.17 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2253 2253.49 So 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2266.29 2267.73 So that's uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2256.82 2258.53 So everybody puts his own score. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2256.09 2256.82 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2258.53 2264.38 And then it mediates the score, and you can get one Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2264.38 2266.29 That's better. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2256.73 2257.14 So 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2257.05 2257.42 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2258.54 2258.98 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2259.27 2259.89 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2261.71 2262.08 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2263.41 2263.78 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2269.02 2269.8 How do we call? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2281.37 2281.96 Evaluation 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2284.65 2285.48 criteria. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2294.79 2295.39 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2298.75 2300.35 Or questions about the project? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2296.67 2298.75 Mm, any more ideas? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2300.35 2301.87 Or about the product? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2304.52 2305.19 Mm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2308.37 2310.27 Because I think 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2315 2318.42 then that we get to our last sheet. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2320.98 2322.25 Are the costs within the budget? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2323.41 2323.75 Mm yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2324.36 2324.67 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2324.9 2325.32 They are. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2325.68 2330.23 Considering we are not going to make a docking station. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2326.48 2327.59 Do we 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2333.23 2339.42 But maybe because of the docking station the price of the remote can also be a little bit higher? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2331.84 2333.23 That's a good point. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2330.05 2331.84 Docking station. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2340.69 2341.05 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2341.46 2344.59 Uh and I think you can compensate that as well. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2341.57 2341.98 Perhaps. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2345.04 2345.31 Mm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2345.86 2350.53 So I think that shouldn't be the biggest problem, because it's very cheap to make as well. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2350.92 2351.35 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2351.62 2351.98 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2362.26 2364.21 If we gonna export this product. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2364.21 2366.31 It's innovative. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2355.36 2357.28 Or what was it? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2352.06 2355.36 Do we think we gonna get the twelve and a half million? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2357.28 2360.02 Fifteen fifteen million. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2360.02 2362.26 I think we will. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2367.96 2369.96 People are pretty decadent. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2366.31 2367.96 Especially in America. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2356.57 2357.67 Fifty grand. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2364.31 2364.58 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2369.57 2370.37 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2370.37 2370.66 Mm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2371.17 2371.85 Sometimes. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2372.64 2376.26 Yeah, still I think I mean if we're n gonna make a scroll-button anyway 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2373.13 2373.44 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2378.12 2379.23 You can do more. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2378.12 2382.44 it'd be more for the younger people than for the older people. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2382.44 2384.05 So maybe we should just re-focus. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2381.84 2382.16 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2381.92 2382.17 Ah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2396.48 2404.92 So you can also try to uh reach the younger people by uh putting fancy covers on on the market. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2394.21 2396.48 That's one thing you can change it with. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2405.96 2407.8 See how it works. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2385.17 2387.89 Just put it on the market for everybody. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2404.92 2405.96 Just as a test. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2407.8 2409.6 That's I think a good advantage. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2387.89 2394.21 You can you can change markets where by changing the front covers. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2387.96 2388 Ah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2387.96 2390.04 Or specifically for younger people. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2394.1 2394.28 Ah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2395.02 2395.63 That's true. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2409.19 2417.58 Yeah, I think then it would be way more uh popular with younger people than it is, than would be with 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2419.21 2419.96 older people. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2420.39 2420.73 Yeah. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2421.63 2423.25 Even if it were their covers. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2423.71 2423.91 Hmm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2423.84 2428.89 Uh, uh then I think we can have our little celebration, right now. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2425.58 2427.28 But 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2429.85 2431.21 Party party. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2430.08 2431.04 That's it. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2437.78 2439.07 I didn't get a message 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2436.41 2437.27 I think. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2437.27 2437.78 I don't know. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2431.04 2432 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2432 2436.41 I think we still have to fit in one more questionnaire. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2434.1 2434.96 Where's the champagne? 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2435.3 2435.57 'Kay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2446.44 2447.66 Five more minutes? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2447.66 2448.57 Oh that's nice. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2440.31 2446.44 from the from ending of the Oh I think I have one now. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2443.96 2444.98 Uh, I believe y uh 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2444.79 2445.21 Oh you did. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2448.15 2448.51 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2457.77 2461.88 Or we can put these in the project folder as well. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2461.88 2462.56 Maybe that's 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2451.41 2454.41 Then we still have some questions. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2454.41 2457.77 If somebody has some questions they can ask them now. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2461.76 2462.09 Mm-hmm. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2462.55 2462.76 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2478.33 2481.37 Export as picture, I think. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2482.15 2482.63 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2482.46 2482.76 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2496.69 2497.84 Hmm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2497.84 2499.96 This is another network, I guess. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2513.8 2514.5 I don't. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2509.42 2513.8 Does somebody see the project folder? 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2517.23 2517.52 Hmm. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2520.84 2521.82 My Documents. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2527.21 2528.75 Uh maybe uh they will save it. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2528.75 2529.54 So uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2529.39 2533.73 Yeah, I'll just put it in My Documents and uh That's okay. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2530.17 2531.06 Yeah, it probably will. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2542.04 2542.89 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2546.38 2550.73 I think I'm going to make our final presentation now. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2551.48 2555.15 Oh yeah, you're supposed to make a final 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2552.38 2559.94 And then I will be back in about ten minutes to show you the final presentation. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2560.07 2560.73 Okay. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2560.67 2561.44 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2561.44 2562.92 Summary of the project. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2564.21 2566.88 Are we supposed to go into our own rooms again? 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2567.01 2569.86 Uh maybe we have to fill uh another questionnaire. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2569.86 2570.44 So uh 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2574.55 2578.67 And then I'll meet you in I think about ten minutes, or something. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2569.79 2570.26 Questionnaire. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2579.11 2579.69 Thank you. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2568.98 2569.79 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2578.67 2579.11 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2570.26 2574.55 I think you all get a questionnaire in in your room. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2570.62 2571.02 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2571.69 2571.98 Yeah. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2573.21 2574.09 Yeah. 
TS3003d H02 MTD0010ID 2577.85 2578.35 Okay. 
TS3003d H01 MTD011UID 2578.16 2578.81 Okay. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2583.63 2586.76 Hopefully my pen will download its software. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2586.6 2587.42 Yeah. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2587.23 2587.39 Oh. 
TS3003d H00 MTD009PM 2587.98 2588.69 Or data. 
TS3003d H03 MTD012ME 2590.69 2591.56 That'd be nice. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 0.37 1.74 Funky sh stuff like that. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 6.65 6.85 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 0.96 6.65 Wonder how much of the meetings is talking about the stuff at the meetings. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 3.58 5.38 Yeah, exactly, yeah yeah yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 8.72 11.83 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 5.4 8.72 Look at all this stuff man. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 4.68 5.4 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 11.83 12.13 Right. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 3.61 4.68 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 7.89 8.94 Okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 12.32 15.22 So what do we need to talk about? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 13.2 13.72 Should we 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 14.98 15.62 Has anybody 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 15.21 24.17 Well should we just go around and everyone says what they d what they've been doing, how far they've got. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 24.17 25.22 Well I hope so. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 19.07 23.69 Has anybody done anything? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 21.47 23.11 Not a lot. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 23.11 23.29 No. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 26.44 27.07 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 25.5 26.44 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 28.2 30.16 So 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 27.07 28.2 Sounds like you've done some stuff. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 25.76 26.15 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 27.79 29.9 You better start. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 27.87 30.57 Okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 30.57 33.85 Well I've got a browser now, which Whoops. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 33.85 34.4 Already gone. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 28.01 30.73 Uh 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 32.53 32.71 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 32.58 32.71 'Kay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 38.04 43.72 Oh, I don't mind as well. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 34.04 38.04 Good start. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 43.72 45.5 This wasn't a good start. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 36.34 36.6 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 40.91 44.13 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 41.52 43.42 Good at this. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 49.32 49.78 Sorry. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 48.29 49.32 Okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 49.78 50.06 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 48.72 49.02 Okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 50.38 51.42 So yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 59.35 66.81 And then when you go on the menu, you can select a summarisation box, which pops up, and an audio player. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 51.42 59.35 We've go a browser we've um which comes up automatically with a transcription box and the topics. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 68.23 68.55 Right. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 73.04 79.75 And it loads up um just the background window is empty and um so when you start 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 68.79 73.04 Um and a s I think the search works as well, so you could pop up a search. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 79.75 84.75 you have to either open open a particular observation or do a search and open it through that. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 86.48 87.07 Does that make sense? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 88.61 96.03 Um the transcription box has got a summarise but button, which doesn't do anything yet. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 96.03 103.91 Um now I wonder wh how we wanna do, you know, we want a pop-up window with the speaker characterisation. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 123.13 128.38 but so like you click on a button and then that opens whatever that speaker characterisation is. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 115.82 123.13 or we can put an extra button extra few buttons next to the summarise button so that you actually in the transcription box 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 128.38 134.81 The problem is the r the left-click is already used because it highlights that um 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 109.58 115.82 Either we can when you click on the the I. D., any sort of I. D. in the transcription box 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 106.2 109.58 Um either we could do that you know, when does the pop-up come? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 106.38 106.62 D yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 106.69 106.87 Hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 152.91 155.79 Um I think so yeah, when you left-click it,
EN2002a H02 FEO072 136.62 142.63 that part of speech or whatever that what he's been saying, you know, the the left-click highlights it. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 147.55 152.91 but that'd be a bit annoying if you have left-click for one thing and double-click for something else. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 142.63 147.55 So that you can I don't know what happens when you double-click actually 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 155.79 160.74 you can for example set set the marker there so that the mm the audio goes from there, I think. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 138.78 140.55 The l the left-click or the right-click. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 140.88 141.12 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 142.16 142.51 Right. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 142.58 144.11 Can you use double-click or 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 152.4 152.8 Yeah, I don't know. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 162.68 164.34 Um so we can't put it on left-click. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 164.34 166.38 We could put it on a right-click. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 166.38 168.75 We could for example have a little menu that pops up. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 170.81 170.93 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 169.45 170.81 Yeah, it might be quite good, I suppose. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 170.64 176.69 So right-click on at menu, you know, and you can click on speaker characterisation, up pops the window. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 176.92 179.68 What else could we have in the menu? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 181.7 182.96 I don't know. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 182.96 183.64 Nothing else. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 180.03 181.7 That's a good point. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 181.36 183.02 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 183.02 186.99 So otherwise you just have a right-click or do you have have a 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 181.89 183.72 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 185.9 185.98 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 185.17 185.9 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 183.72 185.17 Everything. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 182.38 186.42 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 192.81 195.09 Yeah, so yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 195.09 196.85 So but that'd be yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 185.12 191.36 Yeah, yeah, but um I don't know about you, but uh usually in Windows right-click doesn't do anything, does it? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 196.85 197.89 If you just yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 191.36 192.81 It opens a menu. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 190.08 190.65 Is a window. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 192.31 193.24 A menu, yeah yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 193.24 194.05 Yeah, it's why. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 194.05 198.11 And so it might be a bit weird the fir to just start bringing up stuff and then it 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 192.99 193.42 And then 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 198 198.45 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 194.85 196.63 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 196.63 198 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 198.45 202.42 To just have the sort of main same sort of idiom throughout kinda. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 202.42 202.67 So 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 202.12 202.49 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 203.25 203.55 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 203.92 204.27 Hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 204.64 206.61 Um or just, you know, or just the button. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 207.6 207.8 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 220.21 220.56 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 217.98 220.21 It's like more if it's visual. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 207.74 217.98 I guess a button button makes a bit more sense, 'cause otherwise you don't really know that, oh, what if I right-click now, what happens then? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 218.28 221.61 Well no no, you still have the menu the menu pop up that 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 218.41 218.7 Hmm. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 219.6 220.78 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 218.99 219.6 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 220.78 221.49 It's more 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 223.03 224.15 Well oh, yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 229.16 231.24 That's true, yeah, it's more intuitive really, isn't it? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 227.81 229.16 Yeah, that's right. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 226.83 227.81 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 224.15 226.83 It's more obvious, isn't it, w what you can do. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 224.94 225.68 Do you see my 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 226.51 232.04 It's got a button. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 225.08 226.51 It's more idiot proof, isn't it. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 234.63 234.92 I don't know. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 230.5 231.88 But then it's not as extensible. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 234.92 238.04 Whereas a menu type thing is more flexible that way. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 228.14 229.8 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 238.04 240.42 But We're probably not gonna be adding too many things. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 231.88 234.63 Like if we wanna add more things in the future, then we have to well, new buttons. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 229.8 230.5 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 228.18 228.9 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 231.19 233.09 But well, we we can have both, but whatever. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 234.4 236.76 Maybe, maybe. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 234.62 235.39 Add more buttons. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 243.37 251.95 you can have a menu instead of a button but this why I don't think it Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 238.9 239.28 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 239.28 243.37 Well in uh I guess in in In meeting browser one point one 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 242.87 243.81 Okay, exactly. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 245.16 247.46 True, true. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 247.46 249.04 Yes. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 243.81 245.16 I know, I know. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 250.14 260.07 Um but actually what we could do is on in that menu as well we could have an option that pops up a window with all the all the meetings that that user has been in. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 245.6 250.14 In the beta version. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 261.14 261.44 Hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 264.38 266.35 Is that gonna be useful or too much? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 261.35 264.38 Like a search for that user. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 266.35 266.88 Or 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 263.41 263.8 Yep. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 268.07 272.89 So what did you part of the m the menu that comes down, it says give me all your meetings or something. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 267.62 268.07 I guess so. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 272.7 279.18 Yeah, so y when you right-click on it, one one option will be give me all your meetings, characterise the speaker 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 280.12 280.54 Yep. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 284.08 285.27 Or is that too much I mean? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 285.11 290.29 Yeah, um I don't I mean it w it's more like part of the 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 286.06 286.7 I guess so. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 286.7 287.89 It's an idea. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 287.89 288.85 Get to use my pen. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 293.82 297.82 More than the speaker characterisation, as m Steve mentioned. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 297.82 302.42 Um, I don't really know how to involve the speaker characterisation into the browsing. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 291.76 293.82 browsing sort of thingy. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 297.77 299.08 Yeah, that's true, yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 299.08 299.48 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 296.86 297.77 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 299.48 299.81 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 298.67 299.48 Hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 301.63 304.04 It'd nice to have it inconnec interconnected like 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 301.01 301.63 Yeah, that's true. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 301.45 302.44 Actually, 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 311.39 315.47 Like we have it, we're doing it, but what how does it help the browsing? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 308.99 311.39 Di Just some way to sort of leverage that information. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 315.47 317.89 Or what can it give us in the browsing? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 303.36 306.33 Yeah, but maybe tie that in with dialogue acts or something as well. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 317.89 319.23 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 306.33 308.99 I mean speaker characterisation tied into I don't know. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 319.23 319.49 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 316.61 318.55 Or you mean the the speaker characterisation? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 318.55 319.76 Oh well, yeah, I mean, 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 322.39 325.07 I mean it's the speaker characterisation is a bit like you said. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 325.07 327.31 I mean it's like a nice thing. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 321.38 322.39 I don't know about that. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 327.31 332.37 We don't we're not actually sure what the user wants with it, but it's interesting, so why not give it to him. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 325.97 326.17 Hmm. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 332.74 333.21 Yeah yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 333.3 333.54 Right. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 333.87 334.23 Yeah, well 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 335.13 335.55 I mean 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 334.08 335.13 I I think we should do it. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 341.02 347.49 well if you get the speaker characterisation that someone s talks a lot in uh a certain topic,
EN2002a H01 FEO070 336.48 341.02 I mean I guess maybe we could have that as another thing of like 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 354.95 356.33 And in that way but I don't know. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 335.38 336.48 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 347.49 354.95 and then if you, I don't know, click on that topic, you get everything that's in that topic or whatever. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 354.75 357.13 Yeah, I mean that's that's still another level further. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 361.32 364.19 Y we have to first define what what happens when you click on a user. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 358.49 361.32 You know, it doesn't even doesn't even pop up the speaker characterisation yet. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 357.13 358.49 I mean we're not even there yet. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 359.5 359.83 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 358.85 359.5 No no no. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 359.54 359.86 Oh yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 364.43 368.13 We have to have a speaker characterisation first before we cross any of the other bridges. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 368.13 370.31 So yeah, there you go. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 366.96 367.98 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 367.98 369.33 Yes. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 369.33 372.01 So should we try try to do a right-click when you then 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 368.44 369.14 True, yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 367.39 368.44 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 374.72 375.49 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 375.98 376.28 Why not. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 375.49 375.98 Alright. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 376.27 376.43 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 376.29 378.44 Is that just from the main main window? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 385.3 387.86 have a right-click from for these various things to yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 378.44 385.3 Is that is that from any particular window, like if we wanna sorta get like if we were on the users versus like topic or something 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 377.93 378.14 Sorry? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 378.12 379.41 Even if only one thing comes up. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 399.55 402.78 So we could do that in a similar way, do it right-click as well. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 402.78 405 And to have a different menu for our 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 387.53 387.86 Wait. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 391.2 398.59 We wanna somehow click be able to click on a topic and it pops up with all the meetings that contain that. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 387.86 391.2 Yeah, there's a second thing about the topics, the topic window. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 398.59 399.55 Yeah? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 385.7 386.86 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 386.86 387.53 Yes. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 399.03 399.22 Yep. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 397.67 399.03 Right, yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 398.18 398.42 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 400.01 401.43 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 401.43 404.98 So and so this lot is for um 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 402.28 403.05 Okay, yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 404.26 405.82 Now it's consistent throughout. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 405.82 406.71 So, yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 406.15 406.49 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 406.91 408.09 On the t speaker. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 409.63 411.28 So yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 411.28 420.77 So we have basically two options of of browsing the meetings is by either um searching and opening individual observations. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 420.77 424.13 And when then we have the interlinking by right-click basically. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 410.33 411.81 And then this lot is on th 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 424.58 424.81 Right. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 441.06 444.34 so it'll be like all the um cases of that topic,
EN2002a H00 MEE073 454.49 458.89 so if somebody knows exactly what they wanna do and we know that that's the most common thing that's gonna happen 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 448.82 452.91 and just show up the the particular instances of that topic in a meeting. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 432.6 436.22 I mean that's kind of a typical kinda action that would happen. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 426.11 428.16 Actually yeah, like um another common thing 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 458.89 462.71 so the double-click will do that and so save them the trouble of right-clicking and choosing the item on the menu. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 428.16 432.6 like if we have it so it's set up that um if you double-click and it goes to a default thing on the menu 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 452.91 454.49 Like I'm just thinking to have the default there 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 444.34 448.82 either whatever we decide the default to be, whether it's in all meetings or just in one meeting 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 436.22 441.06 If you double-click on a particular topic or something, then it goes to sort of a like a default view 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 435.4 436.01 Double-click 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 440.7 441.11 Oh. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 452.56 454.66 Hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 459.07 459.91 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 462.79 466.99 I don't see there's anything obvious that was that would be able, you know, that would be 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 462.9 463.26 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 466.05 469.33 Well, it might come to us as we start playing with it. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 469.41 469.71 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 471.16 471.68 Do you mean 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 469.52 470.16 What was that? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 470.16 471.16 I didn't quite understand. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 482.53 482.75 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 473.55 478.14 You'll have the menu, right-click it, but instead of like have a default double-click,
EN2002a H00 MEE073 478.14 482.53 so if there's a de so it'll be a choice from the menu but yeah, exactly. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 471.44 473.55 Um like we have the the right-click menu. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 471.86 472.57 Uh just let th 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 473.68 474.12 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 478.21 483.42 Oh, so and it figures out what's the most common use to double-click. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 483.63 484.06 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 483.42 483.63 Oh. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 478.66 478.94 Yep. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 481.62 481.86 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 486.84 487.84 Or just I don't know. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 483.7 486.84 Like, I don't know, show the speaker characterisation for instance. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 486.08 486.38 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 490.16 493.85 And they pop up without you even being quite sure what it is, you know what I mean? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 486.35 490.16 Yeah, but then then there's the problem with a lot of windows popping up again. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 486.57 486.93 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 491.57 491.97 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 494.7 496.88 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 496.88 497.2 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 496.26 502.03 But if you do double-click on something, don't you expect something to happen then? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 501.72 501.99 Hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 503.2 504.18 Mm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 502.31 503.2 Yeah, maybe. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 504.18 504.5 Hmm. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 503.47 505.18 Sort of well, I don't know. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 514.84 518.63 T throw stuff throwing out the window. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 504.56 505.74 Sometimes you do it by accident though. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 513.64 514.84 Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 509.01 511.26 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 507.17 509.01 Stop coming up. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 505.74 507.17 You, oh go away. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 511.26 513.64 No. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 506.51 510.22 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 517.63 521.98 Well I'll I'll check what it does on on um double-click at the moment. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 523.54 530.59 But but yeah, mm but I don't I don't I d really don't see anything obvious that that would 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 521.98 523.54 'Cause I think it might do something. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 506.61 513.19 Especially if you have a touch-pad. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 513.19 517.63 It just goes oh. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 508.71 509.01 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 507.87 508.71 Well then they close it. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 506.86 507.87 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 509.01 512.45 You know, it's not it's not the end of the world. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 513.65 517.59 Yeah,. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 517.59 517.79 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 521.62 522.55 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 522.55 526.54 Yeah, uh that was good start. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 521.78 522.08 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 526.91 527.2 Yep. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 532.32 533.73 I mean if you can think of something that 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 537.16 537.59 I don't know. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 538.67 539.14 Sorry. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 542.34 544.69 I guess it depends on the 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 546.29 548.23 Yeah, what you're clicking on. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 548.23 548.83 Obviously. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 548.61 549.42 Sorry. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 555.54 556.57 Do we wanna use them or not? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 553.67 555.54 Single audio files. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 549.42 553.67 Um yeah, another thing. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 549.83 550 Hmm. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 560.45 561.57 Do you mean the single channel? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 558.63 560.45 We don't know yet do we, I don't think. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 561.75 563.88 Yeah, single channel that's single channel files. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 564.82 565.39 I mean 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 563.88 564.82 Do we want them? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 561.92 562.52 Single channel. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 562.59 562.97 Mm. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 570.88 572.55 But at the moment, no. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 572.55 575 But yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 565.8 570.88 Probably not, but we might need them for disfluencies, if we try do it in audio. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 567.01 567.33 No. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 569.35 571.22 Well, yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 570.83 578.36 I mean we might use them while wo to work with them, but do we wanna integrate them in so that when you browse you can here's 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 569.35 570.83 Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 577.91 580.99 We might want to be able to say oh, just give me what that person's saying. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 581.75 585.29 I mean it's not gonna make much sense if you don't listen to it on its own d do you? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 585.29 585.66 Does it? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 581.38 581.75 Do you though? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 581.94 582.6 No. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 587.36 589.39 Somebody's talking over somebody else or something. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 585.05 587.36 Unless um you can't hear it properly or something. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 589.39 589.79 Well p 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 593.65 593.98 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 590.95 593.65 W we just say no for now and put it in later or something. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 592.9 594.32 No, hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 594.32 594.65 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 595.97 596.28 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 602.16 603.3 Therefore print will be bigger. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 596.79 602.16 Yeah, 'cause otherwise it will the it will increase the amount of data we need by a lot, won't it? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 601.54 601.88 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 604.34 604.66 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 606.79 607.49 Um 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 614.1 616.22 Do you think do you think it's really that bad? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 610.04 614.1 Yeah, wh what do people think in general about the windows cluttering that he's mentioned? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 615.25 620.63 I think we probably need that, though to have the f the full flexibility, we need to have that there, but um yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 618.02 620.25 That's what I feel as well. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 625.66 626.24 Um 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 620.25 625.66 I mean I'm I'm very much I w I wanna have everything customisable. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 625.1 625.3 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 630.79 636.5 Probably just two or two or three of whatever whatever they're looking at, like dialogue acts, to whatever, characterisations. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 626.35 630.79 Although the thing is typically though, is someone gonna have five windows open at the same time, probably not. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 631.86 632.71 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 635.46 639.67 But yeah, it depends, I mean I I really wanna put the summary in somewhere, you know. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 639.67 641.39 And the summary for example is typical. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 646.53 647.83 But it'd be good to have it there. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 641.39 646.53 You open the window, you read through it, you might click on you know, close it again straight-away. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 631 631.86 Probably not, no. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 632.71 635.46 Two or three maybe, but yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 639.89 640.04 Hmm. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 646.21 647.17 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 647.17 648.41 No, I think it's I think it's fine. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 648.62 649.69 I think what we're doing is fine. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 648.41 648.62 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 646.58 647.27 Yeah, true. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 646.99 647.28 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 648.34 656.36 But uh well, couldn't we I mean you probably I don't know if you wanna have like the the full transcription and the summary at the same time. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 657.56 663.43 So maybe you can just like choose the s same window for transcription and summary. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 661.99 662.36 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 663.63 664.73 So like have a tab there? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 664.73 666.6 For something like that choose on choose one. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 664.65 667.07 I was just thinking of tab. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 665.32 666.5 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 669.42 670.89 I like tabs. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 670.89 673.46 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 666.5 667.92 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 667.92 669.42 Tabs are nice. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 669.14 669.91 Yeah, tabs are good. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 671.05 671.31 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 669.91 671.05 Mozilla style. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 669.47 669.58 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 673.56 675.09 I'm not sure yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 670.15 670.93 That true. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 672.98 673.56 That's right. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 670.93 672.98 Yea yeah yeah yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 674.88 675.98 I don't know how easy it is. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 675.98 678.21 But I dunno, but 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 676.99 679.02 I don't think Java knows how to do that really. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 679.02 680.26 Maybe yeah, you probably can. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 676.2 676.99 Or can you do that in Java? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 675.17 676.2 Does anybody know how to do that? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 680.26 681.78 But but 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 680.28 681.45 I'm sure. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 676.27 677.74 No. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 677.74 678.16 I don't know. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 681.45 682.59 I'm sure you could do anything. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 678.16 680.28 Do you reckon? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 682.97 683.21 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 681.34 682.97 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 677.07 679.92 Oh you should be able to. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 679.92 681.34 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 680.74 681.2 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 687.85 690.57 The eight is sometimes it's a bit of a cripple. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 684.04 684.6 But I don't know. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 684.6 687.85 It's a bit of a cripple with Java's windowing tool-kit. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 682.94 684.04 If you really knew what you're doing. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 682.95 683.42 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 689.73 690.28 Hmm. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 690.97 691.3 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 691.93 692.8 I can have a look. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 694.14 694.45 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 695.3 697.23 Or just, I don't know. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 697.23 703.29 Yeah, uh change the contents of the same window, like from transcription to summary. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 694.84 695.3 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 696.94 698.76 But yeah, that that might be an idea, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 701.78 702.44 Yeah yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 704.35 704.66 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 704.53 704.96 Probably yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 706.29 706.51 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 707.76 712.51 Yeah, or even just have buttons on it, toggle buttons or something on the tool-bar for that window. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 713.14 713.48 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 714.44 714.96 Just something. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 715.98 716.61 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 716.61 717.29 That could probably 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 716.04 718.99 A lot of different ways we can do it, it doesn't doesn't have to be a tab or whatever. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 718.99 720.58 Just gonna be yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 720.58 720.74 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 719.03 725.56 No, no, it could be like transcription summary, like two buttons and you just press on which ever you want. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 721.89 722.15 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 722.15 722.84 Exactly. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 723.91 724.2 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 729.25 729.57 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 725.07 725.76 Or check-marks. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 725.76 729.25 Even have two of 'em checked and send Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 738.15 738.45 So 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 730.95 734.45 'Cause otherwise Photoshop has a lot of windows, if you ever use Photoshop it's got loads,
EN2002a H03 MEE071 730.07 730.95 Which is quite good. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 736.65 738.15 There's always stuff in the way, isn't there. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 726.15 730.07 Yeah, that will reduce the number of um windows we needed, wouldn't it? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 734.45 736.65 and you're always g forever going no, get out of the way. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 727.19 727.46 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 737.85 738.01 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 736.17 736.77 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 736.77 737.85 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 739.67 740.82 I don't like pop-ups. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 739.06 739.67 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 740.42 747.93 But I mean people get used to it, I mean when you use a Windows or Linux for that matter, you have a lot of windows open. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 747.93 748.7 And you manage them. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 741.39 741.58 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 749.38 749.67 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 747.77 749.38 You do, yeah? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 747.85 748.15 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 749.45 749.7 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 751.8 752.06 True. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 753.52 758.88 Unless, can you I don't suppose you can minimise them and stuff like that Can you can you do that? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 760.47 760.88 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 760.88 762.84 Of course you can actually, yeah, it's got everything. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 752.05 753.52 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 758.88 760.47 Okay, well it's alright then. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 753.87 754.84 I guess that yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 758.4 758.68 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 756.28 758.4 Oh yeah? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 757.7 758.25 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 756.37 757.7 Yeah, you can minimise 'em. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 765.81 770.06 have transcript without the disfluency, transcript with the disfluent disfluency. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 778.78 779.47 Exclusive, yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 770.06 770.98 Have all these, you know,
EN2002a H00 MEE073 761.36 762.19 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 770.98 778.78 have all these sort of using the same window and so we can put a lot of and probably mutually um whate distinct, yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 762.19 765.81 Yeah, like a lot of these can be, like once we get the disfluencies out, then we can you know,
EN2002a H01 FEO070 762.35 762.63 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 769.72 771.8 Yeah, that's true, they're they're definitely 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 773.12 775.25 Yeah, they're definitely gonna be in the same window, yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 777.78 778.21 He's close. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 779.61 782.25 Yeah, that that was the plan for the disfluencies anyway. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 778.22 779.61 Exclusive. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 782.25 782.73 So d 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 781.91 782.14 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 784.05 786.74 Yeah, do you wanna do that with summaries in? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 786.74 789.14 Put the summaries in in the same window. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 790.24 791.45 Mutually exclusive with 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 799.97 803.87 Like full meeting, meeting without disfluencies, and summarise. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 790.78 793.7 Yeah, um well could uh I don't know. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 793.7 799.97 Would transcripts uh b sounds reasonable to have like transcripts like maybe three alternatives then. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 795.73 796.03 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 800.36 800.68 Right. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 803.21 804.11 Summary. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 804.11 806.36 Yeah, you wanna do that? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 806.36 806.63 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 804.47 805.87 Yeah, that kinda makes sense. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 805.91 806.13 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 806.87 807.93 Yeah, sounds good. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 810.37 811.43 Um yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 820.25 822.38 What kind of prototype could we produce? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 816.58 820.25 And finally the prototype he spoke about. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 823.08 823.95 By the end of February. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 828.76 829.66 You know? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 835.21 836.48 Do we wanna aim for something? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 824.27 828.76 Because I'm I'm just, you know, I go into the lab and I say right, what am I gonna change today. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 829.66 835.21 And it kind of just it just develops, I'm not aiming for anything. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 828.7 830.07 Okay, right. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 837.78 839.04 Um 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 841.51 844.17 I'm I'm pretty much getting there anyway, to be honest. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 844.17 846.76 It's not it's not gonna be a lot more work. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 844.91 845.07 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 847.19 856.03 I mean just to try it and I mean for us to to be able to do something that we can include with your thing so so eas yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 856.03 856.32 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 846.63 847.19 I guess it is. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 855.85 856.08 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 855.25 855.85 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 854.58 855.25 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 856.53 859.83 Something just slightly more than just that on its own. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 854.7 856.53 Yeah, that's what we need, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 859.83 860.17 Yep. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 856.5 856.82 Oh. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 858.47 858.85 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 858.54 859.88 Yeah, so we can plug it in and 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 860.73 864.73 Just so see the integration works sort of between the different compo 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 858.82 860.08 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 860.08 860.73 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 865.12 865.75 Mm true. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 865.36 866.42 Yep, definitely. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 866.84 867.51 Um 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 868.45 868.89 Hmm. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 868.88 871.01 So I guess that's what we need to aim for. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 870.94 873.14 I think that's kinda as well, isn't it really? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 873.14 876.15 Seeing it seeing it sort of start to do stuff rather than just be 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 872.78 873.07 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 876.35 877.24 Oh right, I see. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 877.24 877.47 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 877.67 877.97 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 878.02 879.21 a prototype with a GUI. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 880.04 886.28 Well if I guess I mean that was probably our intention, but we might not have written it down. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 886.28 888.67 So I guess I know. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 879.32 880.04 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 886.42 887.21 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 887.21 889.76 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 887.36 887.45 Hmm. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 890.84 891.2 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 896.41 900.1 Like can we just like copy like the latest stuff out of your directory, somewhere? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 900.1 906.01 Or Like if we're gonna just try and like take a look or something, try and just plug some stuff I think you can if 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 891.97 896.41 Actually is the code accessible, like the the GUI stuff that you've done, yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 900.41 903.34 Um probably not. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 903.34 905.26 I don't know, can you access other people's 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 905.04 907.85 You can make it if you make it world readable, then anybody can access it. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 907.32 912.78 Well, if you just tell us the directory and just make the file readable, then we c know the directory to get in then and just 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 910.51 910.82 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 912.45 914.52 Yeah, sure. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 914.52 917.35 I don't know if it's readable at the moment, but you can sure have a d have a look. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 913.62 915.06 That might be might be an idea. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 917.05 919.85 I think by default they are I think really? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 919.85 920.28 Or 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 916.51 917.05 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 916.83 919.41 No, uh i i it no, they're not world-readable. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 924.09 925.44 You can see them but you can't read them. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 919.41 924.09 It not the default they're only default then only you can read them by default. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 918.33 918.63 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 920.16 920.5 Alright. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 922.51 923.82 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 923.82 924.21 Okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 923.63 924.22 Alright. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 926.32 928.84 Right, well I'll make that readable then. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 925.57 926.32 'Kay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 928.84 932.51 Um so the directory is my number 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 925.65 926.53 Okay, alright. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 927.86 928.13 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 927.99 928.35 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 935.31 936.27 Yeah, right, okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 932.61 933.98 Or you could just email to us. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 933.98 935.31 Okay, yeah, yeah, okay, right. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 937.81 939.53 It's in all the emails. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 943.25 946.77 O. four, five five five, 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 939.53 943.25 Not O. four. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 934.69 937.81 Well, this is not difficult. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 936.42 937.61 What's your number? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 937.27 937.79 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 940.5 943.74 Yes. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 939.19 940.5 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 940 941.35 Okay, your number. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 943.95 944.34 Okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 948.52 949.06 six O. . 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 949.81 950.82 Say that again, O. four. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 950.76 952.54 O. four five five five six O. . 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 952.96 953.88 And then it's 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 954.93 958.32 And then um there's a folder um N. L. S. S. D., 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 958.83 959.4 N. L. S. S. D. . 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 959.54 961.82 and it's called the M. browser. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 962.53 964.76 The M. browser, for meeting. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 963.72 966.33 Yes, M. for meeting. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 964.04 966.06 Lower case. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 966.03 968.61 Hope you hope you never have to look in my directory. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 968.61 969.96 It's just pure chaos. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 969.96 980.11 S Mine is serious chaos. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 980.11 982.36 Files everywhere. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 967.58 967.73 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 970.01 971.37 Really. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 971.37 974.08 No, I'm I'm extremely organised, you see. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 975.19 975.86 I love folders. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 974.08 975.19 I've got folders for everything. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 975.61 976.13 Oh yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 981.48 981.91 Mm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 984.87 985 Hmm. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 986.33 986.73 Okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 987.72 989.29 Someone else wanna talk about their stuff? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 986.53 987.72 Yep, so that's me done. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 991.94 994.73 Don't all jump at once. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 994.49 996.97 I could tell you what I done in S. P. two. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 996.5 998.78 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 996.64 999.13 Right. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1001.3 1011.6 I basi I s started like browsing a bit, just like trying to see if there's anything out there to use s sort of um just 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 999.98 1001.3 Oh um I don't know. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1009.94 1010.18 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1011.41 1012.94 W what where you doing again? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1017.92 1024.58 So it just found a tutorial but i inverted search in indexing, but I haven't read it yet. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1016.85 1017.92 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1024.58 1024.86 But 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1012.88 1015.85 yeah, searching, yeah well yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1015.85 1016.85 We're doing the. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1019.4 1019.63 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1014.89 1019.4 Like the the in inverted file stuff and um the next search query and all that. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1012.9 1014.89 Um all the searching stuff. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1013.83 1017.31 Yeah, what was on it. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1015.18 1016.03 The search, okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1018.98 1019.31 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1023.57 1027.31 So you could probably just use that code, like that was behind the question she asked him earlier. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1027.31 1031.49 Just You know, the re-using code and stuff was just like okay, good. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1022.55 1023.57 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1024.28 1024.76 Indexing. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1027.14 1028.68 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1028.68 1029.01 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1028.17 1028.75 Oh. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1030.1 1030.97 Oh right. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1030.97 1032.39 Oh that's pretty much there, is it? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1030.96 1031.11 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1031 1032.74 Oh you found some code for it. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1032.74 1033.43 For the inde 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1032.81 1034.73 Yeah, well I don't know if it's usable. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1040.72 1041.33 Uh whatever. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1041.33 1041.49 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1034.73 1036.08 I uh can have a look th at it. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1036.08 1040.72 But but I found some code for like from a tutorial about i indexing. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1032.86 1034.06 Um apparently 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1036.24 1037.67 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1037.67 1037.86 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1035.58 1036.24 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1035.83 1036.22 Alright. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1037.96 1038.92 Of making 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1041.46 1044.63 So even if it doesn't work, you can jiggery pokery around and make it work. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1040.86 1041.46 Cool, cool. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1044.63 1045.02 Y yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1039.77 1040.86 Alright. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1040.71 1041.39 Oh great. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1041.03 1041.27 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1048.72 1050.03 Messing around still, though. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1045.24 1048.72 We'll probably still have to do some other file manage while, I don't know, creation. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1044.22 1045.24 Yeah, probably. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1050.03 1050.19 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1044.58 1045.29 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1050.58 1052.19 By the basics is uh oh okay, that's good. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1048.33 1049.23 Yeah yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1049.99 1050.58 But yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1049.23 1049.99 All sorts of nonsense. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1050.6 1050.92 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1052 1052.44 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1052.1 1052.36 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1053.14 1053.91 Yeah, that's handy. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1053.76 1055.13 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1055.13 1055.62 Um 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1054.67 1056.81 Um yeah, I guess that's it. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1056.47 1058.01 So you think it shouldn't be too difficult? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1060.53 1068.54 Uh I'm I was a bit worried about when well when he talked about this with the mm file messing around with files. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1068.54 1072.49 I mean uh how much do we actually need to do. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1072.49 1077.71 Like extracting things from the X. M. L. files and stuff to be able to do the indexing? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1060.17 1060.53 I don't know. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1076.05 1076.34 Hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1079.29 1079.84 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1079.84 1082.54 You have to convert it to some sort of format, I suppose. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1077.96 1079.29 Oh, I see. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1079.61 1080.05 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1082.64 1082.84 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1100.41 1102.72 But I guess it's not very difficult. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1102.72 1103.61 Yeah, in Java, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1092.3 1100.41 So it will come up on the screen For the moment I haven't managed to put it into a vector or whatever in Java to play with it. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1089.07 1092.3 And I can get rid of it, but I'm having trouble putting it anywhere else. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1083.43 1089.07 I've been trying to g write something to read the X. M. L. and get rid of it. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1095.5 1095.9 Right. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1092.52 1093.89 Huh? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1093.89 1095.5 Okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1093.86 1096.13 Okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1104.83 1104.98 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1101.19 1104.83 What are you writing in Java or yeah, okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1099.61 1101.19 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1101.18 1101.5 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1103.91 1104.13 Right. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1104.75 1105.06 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1106.16 1108.41 you know a bunch about file things. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1115.08 1116.38 Put it into a window at least. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1106.73 1115.08 I mean you should look at look have a look at the the browser code then, because um, you know, they already extract for example transcripts. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1116.61 1117.5 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1114.4 1116.61 Yeah yeah, I'm sure they do. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1118.4 1119 Yeah, it's good idea. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1119.4 1121.75 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1121.75 1124.06 Oh yeah, I will. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1124.06 1125.04 I'm sure it's nothing difficult. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1125.04 1130.49 I'm sure I'm making a meal of it at the moment actually. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1133.94 1143.47 Um yeah, I guess I mean it was a good point you had that like collaborating with the file things. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1143.47 1148.48 I mean if you already started on on doing your stuff, I guess we can 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1142.23 1142.56 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1146.67 1147.52 Absolutely, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1145.72 1146.67 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1148.9 1150.25 Should share as much as possible. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1150.22 1150.72 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1150.78 1152.04 Mm-hmm, libraries. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1152.75 1153.26 Yeah 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1153.38 1155.19 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1155.19 1156.36 Should we, I don't know, 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1153.54 1153.71 Hmm. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1167.47 1168.42 Or what do we need. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1159.8 1167.47 I mean, I don't know, see what you've done and see what we need when we know more of what we need maybe? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1168.42 1169.61 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1158.29 1159.8 meet up and see what we could do? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1169.61 1169.72 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1164.63 1165.03 Yep. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1171.72 1171.96 I see. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1168.48 1170.33 Yeah, exactly, exactly. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1164.72 1167.34 Right. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1168.04 1168.48 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1170.33 1171.72 So you're still working? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1167.34 1168.04 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1168.52 1173.55 I actually haven't done anything this week 'cause this week's been manic. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1167.29 1168.52 Next week sometime, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1180.27 1183.67 The the the week as it as is rather than the proper week, do you know what I mean. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1173.55 1180.27 But well, whatever it was, last week then. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1183.67 1186.69 Do you know that, it's been all a bit manic, the last m the last yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1173.42 1174.63 Yep. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1174.63 1175.59 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1173.63 1175.33 Yes, exactly, same. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1175.33 1180.31 Yeah, I mean betwe um I sup yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1180.31 1180.48 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1175.65 1177.71 This week's only two days old. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1175.26 1175.65 What do you mean? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1178.03 1180.64 Well 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1178.86 1180.16 Oh. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1184.15 1184.29 Right. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1185.78 1188.35 Well well you're in S. P. N. L. P. and S. P. two, right? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1189.04 1189.86 Yeah, that's where I'm at. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1188.35 1189.04 So yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1189.66 1193.88 And then we had to do an I. R. P., whatever it was last week as well. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1188.21 1189.66 Yeah, that's right, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1193.88 1196.03 Which is only a page long, but it's quite difficult to write a page. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1188.61 1188.84 Yep. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1193.94 1194.08 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1196.51 1197.24 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1197.24 1197.72 Yeah, oh yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1200.83 1201.84 Just so stupid. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1199.4 1200.83 Never mind. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1196.9 1197.72 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1197.72 1199.4 Oh that's complete rubbish anyway. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1204.27 1207.74 Yeah, but S. P. N. L. P. . 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1197.96 1204.27 More diffi it was, it wasn't marked, but it was I had to sit there and think about it for a bit, which is a bit irritating. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1207.74 1210.27 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1205.85 1207.01 Yeah, that's fun. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1207.33 1210.28 Oh. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1209.32 1209.56 Oh yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1212.71 1218.56 Yeah, I was thinking that we can probably get uh start attacking this seriously and then just um,
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1225.04 1226.04 Think that should be possible. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1223.58 1225.04 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1218.56 1223.58 yeah, hopefully have something by next week that we can sorta try integrating into the GUI. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1212.25 1212.71 So. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1211.16 1212.25 Okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1211.82 1212.35 Um 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1214.16 1215.34 Yeah, we're gonna meet up. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1216.04 1216.26 Yep. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1223.08 1223.45 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1223.91 1224.18 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1240.17 1242.83 which I think is odd, but I'm not quite sure how it works yet. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1229.61 1240.17 it was there when I took it um uses the um the N. X. T. search to get the data out of the out the files,
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1242.83 1243.71 I don't quite understand it. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1225.09 1229.61 Well ye the browser as I use it now or as uh, you know 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1225.21 1226.04 'Cause it's now 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1237.91 1238.07 Why? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1236.97 1237.91 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1244.83 1246.42 So when it when it 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1255.44 1255.73 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1247.36 1255.44 To get the data i for example to get the summarisation data, you have to search for I think the I. D. s or something. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1258.66 1259.51 They've got d 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1256.45 1257.68 That's pretty bizarre, isn't it? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1257.68 1258.66 Well I guess that's how it works. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1257.54 1258.08 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1261.61 1262.73 That is pretty bizarre. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1263.72 1269.07 So they don't, you know, they don't say look in that and that folder, but they say search everything. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1267.18 1268.28 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1270.51 1271.29 That is pretty bizarre. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1280.03 1281.25 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1272.77 1273.78 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1277.95 1280.03 Very clearly, yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1273.78 1277.95 Well they did say it wasn't the most efficient. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1274.48 1279.16 Okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1275.99 1279.15 Oh it does load up quite quickly. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1280.9 1283 But you know, you could have a look at them. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1279.15 1280.9 So you know, it's not too bad. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1281.71 1286.15 But it what what is it like a window where you have to wr write the search query? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1286.15 1288 Or is it just what's behind it? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1288 1290.35 So or how does it work then? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1279.4 1281.71 Okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1290.35 1291.51 D Okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1297.92 1306.68 it does does an N. X. T. search for the string, I don't know, transcript or text or whatever. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1290.92 1297.92 This is just when you open what you know, to load the transcript for example, to find the transcript for a certain meeting,
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1289.16 1290.92 No, this is not the actual search. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1295.18 1295.41 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1296.98 1297.18 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1305.67 1305.86 Wh 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1306.05 1306.33 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1306.98 1313.8 Four, and it w it li it just has an open variable transparent s list, whatever, find everything that's got that and then load 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1310.69 1310.93 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1313.25 1320.73 Yeah, so I don't know if you've looked at the search query s language, but it's like a dollar A. text say. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1319.51 1320.84 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1320.84 1326.83 Yeah, yeah, 'cause that's the uh the declares a variable, doesn't it, and then they keep Okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1319.66 1319.87 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1319.85 1320.12 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1323.9 1325.17 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1325.17 1326.35 And then yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1326.35 1330.08 Because every every of all of these um 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1331.46 1333.67 these files have got um tha an I. D. . 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1337.78 1341.61 words or text or something in it, so it just searches for those files. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1333.67 1337.78 And all the transcript files have got the string, I don't know what it is,
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1342.37 1342.77 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1342.98 1343.4 Right. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1343.23 1343.67 Vaguely. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1345.6 1358.31 When you like you is there a open thingy or Like well what did you two do to like how did you figure out that this uses N. X. T. search like is it 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1345.68 1346.11 So 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1350.04 1350.28 Open. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1369.71 1370.45 That's how I 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1366.46 1369.71 I had to figure out how to how to do the same thing for the summary. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1357.49 1361.15 Um um well, it's in the code. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1361.15 1366.46 Just that it, you know, it yeah, you define a search object, and then you search on that string. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1361.22 1361.55 Okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1364.93 1365.22 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1371.98 1373.23 Oh see, obvious 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1371.99 1376.56 I had to I had to understand how to do the transcript how they did the transcript to do the summary myself. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1376.64 1379.28 So did you have to write it in the way that they wrote it, is that what you did? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1379.32 1383.02 Yeah, just search for a specific string. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1383.46 1383.79 Right. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1385.36 1385.8 Okeydoke. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1392.09 1392.37 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1385.39 1392.09 So you could just, you know, you could use that when you if you wanna um take the data out and put it somewhere. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1391.33 1393.28 Fish the data, I was just thinking that, yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1393.11 1393.46 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1403.26 1405.57 you know, whatever you wanna do, then just send me an email. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1396.68 1403.26 If you have a a question about w what the p the code means or where to find the code that you wanna,
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1397 1397.36 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1405.73 1405.97 Mm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1406.84 1407.67 I can explain it. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1408.29 1408.52 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1408.85 1411.14 Have you annotated your code nicely? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1411.14 1413.47 Not yet. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1410.2 1412.77 Okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1427.69 1428.91 Yes. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1418.61 1421.67 that they gave us, had a lot of extra stuff in,
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1431.71 1435.97 A lot of rubbish, but they will be get will be chucked out right at the end, I think. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1428.91 1431.71 So they're all in there ye still. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1410.71 1412.21 Oh yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1426.48 1427.69 Exactly. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1425.69 1426.48 Yeah, just in case. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1412.21 1418.61 Actually, in the moment it's got a load of rubbish because the the um the browser that I used from this from you know,
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1421.67 1425.69 and I haven't dared throwing out to through out all the functions I haven't you know, that I don't need. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1424.82 1426.47 Just in case. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1426.47 1429.36 mission critical. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1429.36 1429.57 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1425.05 1426.23 Hmm, right, right. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1440.45 1446.3 Okay, get rid of that, next. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1446.3 1447.09 Good fun, aye. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1436.27 1440.45 Commen commenting it out one bit at a time and running it, does it work, yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1442.48 1443.33 Precisely. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1439.28 1439.75 Yes. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1439.75 1441.43 Exactly, yes. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1441.43 1442.48 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1439.78 1440.17 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1441.15 1441.33 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1440.17 1441.15 M yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1444.48 1444.93 Oh yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1446.67 1446.93 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1448.67 1448.99 Oh no. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1448.83 1449.15 Hmm. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1452 1452.27 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1452.09 1457.14 So basically we go and go and do some work really, I think that's the um the um the answer to that, isn't it. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1457.14 1458.06 The long and the short of it. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1453.97 1455.76 Yeah, seriously, on the weekend. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1454.48 1458.54 The weekend? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1458.54 1460.61 The weekend's still four days off. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1458.73 1458.86 Well f 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1458.22 1458.73 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1460.04 1462.01 Uh Um Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1468.26 1468.38 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1462.01 1463.04 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1463.04 1468.26 How many hours is this? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1461.23 1461.77 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1461.77 1465.99 Proba I'm still at the bottom of the mountain. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1464.84 1465.7 Oh. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1467.43 1468.3 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1467.51 1469.53 I don't actually have that much to do at the moment. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1469.91 1484.09 Well, should you find you want to explore any other perhaps you as your um uh quantify raising. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1471.2 1474.59 Yeah, seriously. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1475.73 1476.17 Well 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1471.25 1475.73 Well Oh dear. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1472.51 1475.68 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1481.5 1482.12 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1480.13 1480.9 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1482.12 1482.93 That's what I gotta work on. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1480.9 1481.5 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1480.33 1484.94 I can't remember what I'm supposed to do, by the way. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1484.94 1487.52 Am I supposed to do the summarisation thingibob? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1488.73 1489.24 Mm. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1493.97 1494.37 I don't know. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1492.92 1493.97 Mm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1494.01 1494.36 No. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1495.54 1496.14 Who was doing that? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1498.8 1500.07 Oh really? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1499.32 1502.11 You do. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1502.11 1503 Well, I'll do that then. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1503.49 1504.82 Oh. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1500.22 1503.49 Oh. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1500.42 1501.92 You saw it, yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1500.91 1501 Damn. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1501.78 1502.7 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1502.88 1504.08 These can be changed as well. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1510.6 1512.2 You have some time, why not. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1505.46 1507.52 Um I don't know, it doesn't matter. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1508.39 1510.6 I mean it's just, you know, play around with some extra stuff. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1504.08 1505.46 Okay, yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1507.52 1508.39 If if you want to. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1505.41 1505.91 I mean 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1504.4 1505.41 Shall I do that then? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1507.01 1507.93 Or you know 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1513.24 1513.6 I mean 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1512.37 1513.24 It shouldn't be to difficult. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1516.15 1516.42 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1516.9 1521.41 So what courses should I pick to be not doing any work at the moment? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1519.14 1523.24 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1523.24 1524.1 That's nice. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1521.13 1528.02 Well I'm doing communications, which we had one exercise and I've done that like two weeks ago. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1528.02 1530.29 And that's in in two weeks. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1527.69 1527.84 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1532.72 1534.25 Or Oh. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1534.25 1537.39 Oh, it like digital, okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1530.25 1532.72 Was that in informatics course? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1537.39 1537.71 Okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1532.88 1537.4 Yeah, it's a nine nine course as well or ten or something. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1537.4 1537.62 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1533.19 1533.46 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1537.84 1539 Oh, so it's uh, yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1539.01 1547.81 And then then I'm doing parallel programming languages and systems, which we had one exercise as well, and that's in like Friday. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1539.77 1539.92 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1544.23 1544.43 Hmm. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1550.35 1557.05 Well I'm not doing any background reading, so you know. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1557.05 1557.63 Being lazy. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1553.64 1556.33 Alright. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1556.33 1556.6 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1558.07 1560.44 I'm just being yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1556.56 1558.07 Sorry. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1560.44 1561.91 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1559.54 1559.9 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1558.28 1559.54 Fine. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1561.58 1565.28 Yeah, me too. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1561.64 1562.46 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1562.46 1565.62 I'll be happy when this week is over. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1567.71 1570.64 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1564.11 1567.71 Have we these courses that we're okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1564.67 1565.12 Oh. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1570.02 1574.69 Well I don't know, is that about it then or anything else we need to discuss? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1567.12 1570.02 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1571.85 1572.08 No. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1574.37 1574.93 I don 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1576.52 1580.52 Did we wanna meet before we talk to Steve next week. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1584.34 1591.02 We'll probably get some work done over the weekend, so I dunno if after D. N. L. G. or something, maybe just have a little quick little update and just 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1582.98 1584.34 Well, I dunno. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1586.73 1587.07 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1592.33 1594.03 Yeah, if you like. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1596.64 1597.41 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1597.41 1599.94 Um so what what are you planning to do over the weekend then? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1594.03 1596.64 We can always decide then, I mean yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1593.44 1594.39 Yeah, I don't know. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1595.1 1595.65 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1596.11 1596.27 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1595.65 1596.11 True. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1594.14 1595.1 Well we can decide. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1593.85 1594.14 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1595.68 1595.97 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1619.79 1620.62 yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1615.24 1616.69 Won't be the whole thing then. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1619.48 1619.79 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1613.36 1615.24 But, no no. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1620.62 1622.39 Well, actually most are just dialogue acts. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1622.39 1623.86 And what else was there. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1607.82 1613.36 Well, it'll be, you know, still limited version of, you know, the next query search. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1606.05 1607.82 Couldn't be that hard. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1601.77 1606.05 And well sure, why not. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1616.69 1619.48 Um like we can just decide sort of things that we do wanna do. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1600.37 1601.77 Search. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1601.4 1603.27 You're gonna do the search. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1603.27 1605.22 You're gonna implement the search. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1605.22 1605.77 Everything? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1603.16 1605.88 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1607.62 1608 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1616.41 1616.76 No. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1620.66 1620.95 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1630.96 1633.52 summary topic 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1633.31 1633.94 Mm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1638.28 1638.56 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1638.91 1642.97 It's just that I think we need to set ourselves some milestones, because otherwise 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1639.14 1639.54 I don't know. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1642 1642.25 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1644.85 1645.37 You know 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1647.31 1651.15 Yeah, it'll get behind schedule, yeah, pretty quick. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1652.39 1655.81 Well actually, do we wanna set a date for interim prototype? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1651.15 1652.39 Like you're saying, yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1647.82 1649.07 Weeks will go by and 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1657.01 1658.2 Specifically a date? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1660.8 1661.48 Mine was 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1661.46 1664.11 Well you decide, I'm not doing much for that prototype. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1664.11 1664.36 So 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1663.87 1665.59 Um. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1667.78 1673.81 The progress report is due on twenty third February. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1673.81 1674.3 February. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1672.95 1673.42 Of 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1674.71 1675.02 Oh. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1675.35 1677.57 So so what's that, two weeks basically. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1677.3 1678.88 Um yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1678.93 1681.51 Well, how about we get it done by then? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1681.51 1681.88 I mean 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1682.79 1684.01 Ish yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1684.44 1689.72 Then we can write about it in the in the interim report, and s you know, and then we've got something to show. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1687.8 1688.18 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1689.04 1690.56 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1687.94 1689.04 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1697.01 1697.42 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1702.66 1702.94 See. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1699.2 1702.66 Just looking at my own deadlines. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1702.94 1705.94 Yeah, that would be fine. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1704.21 1708.24 Um oh and the the search interface. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1718.14 1723.95 And then if you want, you can give that to me and I'll I'll build a u nice, you know, a few tick-boxes and drop-down menus. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1710.85 1718.14 Maybe you should decide pretty pretty early what kind of things you wanna be able to search for. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1717.2 1717.38 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1724.94 1729.17 Wasn't like what you had now, wasn't that pretty much what we agreed on? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1729.17 1731.84 Or was it just like that one. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1728.51 1728.94 No. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1730.31 1733.65 Oh that's that's that doesn't exist. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1739.39 1743.31 Nicely done though, isn't it? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1753.77 1754.87 A screen-shot of Google. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1737.53 1739.39 That does not exist. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1733.65 1737.53 Tha that's completely cut and pasted. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1743.31 1753.77 It's actually all these all these um things are are nicked from um you know, all these drop-down menus and tick-boxes are nicked from Google online. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1733.1 1736.25 Okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1736.1 1737.63 Okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1739.1 1746.2 This is illusion or whatever. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1744.01 1744.16 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1740.2 1744.01 Is it semblance of reality. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1742.56 1743.63 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1740.55 1742.56 Yeah, that's it's quite impressive actually. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1752 1753.08 I see. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1755.09 1755.87 Oh mm. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1762.04 1763.14 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1756.67 1762.04 That's quite slow really. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1765.65 1773.17 Yeah, I mean I was going to, but you know, the whole drop-down menus and stuff, what we wanna search for is not quite agreed on. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1756.79 1763.58 It's just so much fun. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1763.58 1765.65 It's gonna be a little difficult more difficult. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1773.17 1776.53 We never agreed on what we wanna be able to search for. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1759.99 1762.66 Maybe you should make it exist then. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1757.7 1759.99 I'm impressed. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1756.91 1757.7 Nice thought. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1777.39 1777.65 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1776.6 1777.39 No, it's not, is it? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1777.89 1779.62 Mm decide on that on over the weekend. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1776.66 1777.89 Right, true. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1777.79 1778.4 So 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1779.8 1784.41 Yeah, do you wanna, you know, just get together and think about the different types of search we could possibly do 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1784.41 1789.29 and then then we could discuss it next meeting which options we really wanna include? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1781.11 1781.3 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1785.21 1785.36 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1791.17 1791.41 Right. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1791.35 1796.03 That would probably involve researching the query language a bit as well to see what that can do. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1794.95 1795.61 Yeah, totally. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1796.46 1796.74 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1798.71 1805.27 It would be nice to, I don't know, meet up and uh you can sort of show us a bit what you know already 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1805.27 1809.87 so we don't sort of have to do all the work again of just like figuring out stuff. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1811.37 1813.61 So like no. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1810.28 1811.37 Oh, just like the basic. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1813.61 1813.77 Sorry? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1810.62 1811.13 Know 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1812.11 1813.06 Know already what? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1813.91 1816.84 Just like accessing the corpus and stuff. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1816.28 1816.74 Oh. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1824.52 1824.97 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1816.85 1817.42 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1824.97 1827.7 Or like like, you know, the class paths all that sort of thing. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1817.42 1821.07 Just like all the and seeing the code, and just sort of how just see the basics of what you've done. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1821.07 1824.52 Like just get a a quick look over and just the basics. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1827.7 1833.32 Like just just say okay, well here's you know, everything's basic in set-up and then just yeah, just jump right in. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1823.06 1828.2 Can take us for a tutorial sometime. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1823.51 1823.7 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1824.67 1827.8 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1830.53 1831.3 Yeah, I can do that. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1829.7 1830.53 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1831.52 1831.8 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1832.47 1834.43 Show you what bits the code 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1834.42 1834.66 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1837.49 1839.76 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1839.76 1842.92 In the morning. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1836.44 1837.49 That's cool. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1835.77 1836.44 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1835.94 1838.65 Next week sometime. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1836.03 1836.22 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1843.9 1848.85 Well this time I'm dictating the time, 'cause I if I'm not there you can't do anything. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1840.62 1843.9 Ah, yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1848.62 1853.09 Well thing is, you know, if yeah, something like that could happen anytime 'cause uh yeah,
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1845.76 1847.35 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1864.48 1864.81 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1859.74 1863.64 So something like that and then if I have a class I can run off and do whatever. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1853.09 1856.9 like my schedule's like a class, break, class, break, class, you know, that sort of thing. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1856.9 1859.74 So so yeah, I know, exactly, exactly, that's what I'm thinking. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1863.64 1864.48 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1847.35 1848.62 Yeah, I know. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1845.02 1845.76 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1856.31 1858.65 Yeah, ah it's not gonna take an hour to explain it, you know. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1858.51 1859.28 Yeah, yeah yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1859.87 1860.47 I mean 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1862.6 1862.92 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1862.74 1864.4 Pick a time. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1864.4 1867.06 I I you know, let me know, whenever. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1865.13 1866.3 Um yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1866.12 1868.22 Actually Monday, Monday might be good d um. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1868.15 1868.41 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1870.3 1870.79 What did you say? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1868.66 1870.3 What Monday. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1870.25 1871.1 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1870.51 1871.92 Next yeah, this Monday. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1871.92 1872.14 Just 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1872.37 1877.67 Anytime um, not at n not at noon or two or four. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1877.67 1880.59 No, in between those is you know, like one or three or 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1873.12 1874.86 Mm Monday afternoon. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1880.93 1882.54 Uh 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1882.31 1883.16 Actually th yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1880.99 1882.31 Three o'clock. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1881.96 1882.12 Sure. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1886.27 1887.49 It was what time's D. N. L. G. ? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1883.55 1886.27 Three is alright. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1887.49 1888.25 Four, isn't it? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1884.28 1884.72 Possibly. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1886.9 1887.09 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1888.34 1889.02 It's full, yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1888.86 1892.28 Unless you wanna do it after the um after D. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1889.11 1889.41 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1892.86 1893.83 Yeah, after. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1891.57 1892.86 Yeah, that's an option too. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1893.27 1893.68 D. and A. . 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1895.96 1896.53 That's fine. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1895.31 1895.96 Sure. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1895.92 1896.78 Three's good though. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1899.03 1900.11 What's you what would you prefer? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1896.78 1899.03 I'll but we have s whatever. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1896.08 1896.29 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1900.13 1901.97 Or three thirty. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1903.45 1905.49 That'd be necessarily necessarily short. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1899.14 1900.13 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1901.97 1903.45 No, just yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1903.41 1904.31 Well, it doesn't matter for me. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1904.31 1906.58 I mean three three or after what? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1903.75 1904.67 That's gonna be tight. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1904.69 1911.33 We could three thirty in the in the computer room in here, and then we can just go stra if you can't can you get in the front door? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1912.9 1913.74 Can none of you get in there? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1911.33 1912.9 Oh, you haven't got a key, do you? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1907.27 1908.76 Actually we can't get in there though. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1910.51 1911.05 Maybe we ca 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1912.6 1917.91 W we well we can get in through the through the the card the card door. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1917.91 1918.1 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1913.93 1915.13 Yeah, it what front door? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1929.72 1930.82 It's got a lock door button. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1915.8 1920.89 The k the f there's computer rooms in here, the M. S. C. computer lab and uh is in here. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1927.91 1929.13 You do need to have a key for it. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1927 1927.91 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1920.89 1927 Well if you find me, I'll show you where I'll I'll let us all in there, and we can all go in there. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1929.13 1929.72 Like that's the thing. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1916.3 1917.08 In four Buccleuch. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1918.62 1919.8 I've not found that yet. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1923.73 1926.82 Yeah, right. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1920.04 1923.73 How about if we take uh a tour? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1926.82 1927.81 Yeah, yeah, exactly. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1927.75 1928.09 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1922.42 1927.75 We can go look we can look at now, afterwards. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1930.87 1932.79 Just sort bang on it. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1929.75 1930.87 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1935.62 1937.57 Whether he was gonna get us access into the 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1932.79 1935.62 Actually I was asking Steve about that, whether we can get in there. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1929.86 1930.2 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1932.21 1933.26 Yeah, somebody will answer it. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1938.05 1939.35 Into what? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1939.35 1940.28 Okay uh. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1938.69 1939.22 the computer room. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1940.37 1944.8 Yeah, it's only got it's crap, it's only got about four or five computers in But it would do quite good for our job 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1944.8 1947.96 'cause it has not very uh p not many people in it very often. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1942.95 1943.71 Yeah, print 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1945.11 1945.38 Okay. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1947.76 1948.2 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1948.72 1949.61 Is there a printer in there too? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1947.93 1948.72 Right. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1954.72 1958.77 It's cool, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1949.76 1950.55 Yeah, there's fridge there. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1950.55 1954.72 And there's a photo-copier with the code on it, yeah yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1952.68 1953.07 Really? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1955.37 1956.72 That would come in handy, yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1953.94 1955.37 A nice okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1954.72 1955.18 Really? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1957.73 1958.58 Well, I'm just 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1956.78 1957.73 Ah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1957.65 1960.6 Oh, is that the photo-copier I heard I heard about? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1960.6 1960.89 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1957.74 1964.06 Hey, we could we could photo-copy our um assignment if we wanted to. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1964.31 1965.75 Well the comments I'm thinking. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1964.06 1964.31 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1960.8 1964.23 I've got it in my computer. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1964.23 1965.24 Whatever is in my computer. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1963.02 1963.24 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1964.31 1964.64 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1965.89 1967.65 So what time do we say? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1969.6 1971.35 Then we have all the time we need. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1971.35 1974.13 Rather than have half an hour and then we'll surely run out. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1968.07 1969.6 I just think it's better to do it afterwards. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1968.08 1968.45 Um 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1971.25 1973.2 So after D. N. L. G. . 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1973.2 1973.51 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1970.63 1971.25 Yeah, that's true. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1971.01 1971.32 Oh right. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1971.37 1972.2 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1973.16 1973.67 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1973.31 1977.09 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1978.63 1979.06 Hmm. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1977.09 1978.63 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1978.79 1980.35 As long as D. N. L. G. doesn't go late. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 1981.32 1984.7 Hopefully it's not that man, so it won't matter. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1981.37 1981.65 Oh. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1988.6 1992.78 What was She doesn't even know what she's talking about yet, I think. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1986.23 1988.6 Actually it's not even confirmed yet. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1992.78 1994.52 Maybe it doesn't happen at all. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1988.65 1988.85 What? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1989 1989.27 Oh. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1990.88 1993.48 It's true. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1992.48 1993.06 So 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1994.74 1995.54 Yeah, I don't know. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1996.47 2001.93 It should be it shouldn't be any well, it's supposed to be next week. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2001.93 2003.08 It's week six next week. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 1995.54 1996.47 It's reading week next. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1995.14 1996.66 Sounds like me. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 1997.58 1998.15 Is it really? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1998.4 1999.17 Are you? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1999.17 1999.94 Next week? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2001.31 2001.73 How? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 1999.94 2001.31 Or the week? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2002.32 2002.88 Really? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2003.83 2004.1 Oh. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2004.09 2005.38 I don't think we have a reading week though. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2005.38 2006.03 The the 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2012.52 2015.45 So uh there's not point in having 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2005.54 2005.96 I don't know. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2005.96 2010.2 We have one class at least when we like speech perception, we don't have any lectures. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2010.2 2012.52 But I think we're having like all other classes. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2007.85 2008.43 That's cancelled? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2006.94 2007.85 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2009.79 2010.27 Oh really? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2012.8 2016.98 Yeah, I don't think there is an official I don't think there was an official one last semester. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2016.98 2018.7 I think it was just a bank holiday, wasn't it? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2013 2013.1 Hmm. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2019.01 2020.26 Um something like that. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2020.26 2021.88 I think one or couple classes were cancelled. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2020.17 2020.78 No, I think it w 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2020.8 2023.99 Some classes did and some classes didn't. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2025.22 2026.7 They didn't really know what was going on. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2023.99 2025.22 It's all a bit bizarre really. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2026.22 2026.5 I th 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2023.28 2023.92 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2023.92 2026.22 Exact Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2026.17 2030.04 I think the under-graduates had uh all were off totally. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2023.48 2026.17 Yeah, which are a bit crap, yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2026.63 2027.28 No, 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2028.12 2028.36 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2029.62 2032.57 I think it was up to the professor whether they did it or not. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2033.47 2034.66 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2036.1 2040.92 I think D. I. L. will probably have one to make up for missing classes. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2034.66 2036.1 I think yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2032.57 2033.47 Well, I don't feel like teaching. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2040.92 2044.31 D. I. L. will probably have classes, yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2034.37 2035.91 Nah, make 'em work. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2040.58 2040.82 What? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2045.78 2048.6 last week. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2048.6 2048.94 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2042.24 2045.78 Yeah, th we will probably have it, yeah yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2048.55 2049.37 Let's meet Monday. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2047.21 2048.55 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2048.07 2048.21 Yep. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2050.35 2051.14 Done. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2050.48 2055.23 Yeah, um I guess that's it. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2056.76 2060.48 Do anyone know you wanna like take care of this or should I take care of it? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2055.23 2056.76 Was there anything else? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2053.69 2053.86 Hmm? 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2060.74 2061.71 Oh, we trust you. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2060.79 2062.02 You can have it. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2062.02 2062.48 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2065.78 2067.31 Oh I think he basically said 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2062.28 2062.63 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2062.63 2065.78 I don't know if there was something. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2069.59 2074.89 um the same things as in the comments, if I could read it. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2076.01 2080.75 Can you read that? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2081.46 2082.1 Um 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2078.17 2079.28 Huh? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2079.28 2081.46 Which one, the top one? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2084.36 2087.31 Do you really want multiple windows from a single lap? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2086.54 2086.71 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2088.8 2090.62 From a single application 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2089.6 2092.41 But most will probably want to go with defaults. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2094.87 2096.9 Well, uh that was, I guess. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2094.39 2094.87 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2094.67 2095.77 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2096.92 2097.17 You'd be s 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2095.77 2096.92 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2098.66 2099 So it's 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2096.44 2098.66 Yeah, I think the comments are basically the same as what you said. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2098.73 2104.9 Yeah, exactly, and just the other comment about whether you wanna do both speaker characterisation and topic segmentation. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2098.91 2099.15 Oh. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2105.6 2105.87 No. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2107.66 2108.58 Nothing terribly exciting. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2106.21 2107.66 Yeah, yeah that's about it. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2115.32 2117.08 Is quite good. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2107.83 2108.62 Oh yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2117.08 2117.86 So if y 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2109.96 2115.32 And now we have seven percent of the course already done? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2108.62 2109.96 Yeah? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2109.84 2110.26 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2117.04 2117.76 So 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2112.13 2114.27 Yeah. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2114.27 2116.14 Alright. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2116.14 2117.04 Okay. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2113.82 2116.79 Yeah. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2117.13 2118.98 I think we need to tick the okay box, right? 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2116.83 2117.13 Right. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2119.14 2123.91 If you're okay with uh having Oh. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2121.65 2125.02 Exciting. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2120.07 2121.65 Ooh. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2121.77 2122.73 Bu buzzes. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2122.73 2122.94 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2121.21 2121.77 Oof. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2125.92 2127.38 Okay. 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2127.38 2127.67 Yeah. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2127.04 2127.67 Log off. 
EN2002a H03 MEE071 2126 2127.04 Signing off, innit? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2127.01 2129.89 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2126.26 2127.01 Who? 
EN2002a H00 MEE073 2129.89 2130.23 Okay. 
EN2002a H02 FEO072 2131.48 2132.62 Should we turn these off then or what? 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2133.91 2135.03 We're done now. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2135.03 2137.47 I uh 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2140.81 2141.59 Yes, you are. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2141.59 2142.37 Yeah. 
EN2002a H01 FEO070 2139.28 2140.81 Is she still here? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 4.48 4.59 No. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 4.83 4.95 No. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 16.64 16.92 Okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 24.8 28.51 Who wants to take notes today? 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 24.23 24.8 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 29.06 29.29 Oh. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 32.59 33.08 Channel. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 36.03 36.47 Okay. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 37.03 38.15 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 42.4 43.81 I'll takes notes this time, I guess. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 39.03 39.9 Mm 'kay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 39.9 42.4 L I could take notes this time, I guess. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 39.76 39.92 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 42.85 43.63 Th okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 41.99 42.85 What? 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 43.63 43.73 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 44.95 46.12 Actually, I suppose I'll use this. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 45.81 46.96 I'll make funny drawings. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 59.54 62.31 Um actually I can just take that if you want. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 47.45 59.54 Um actually first thing I just sorta did a really sorta brief um, yeah, version of what we have to do. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 58.73 58.93 Yep. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 62.02 62.52 Thank you. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 86.61 89.47 Everyone's looking down reading. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 81.66 86.61 Very interesting start of the meeting. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 84.75 85.74 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 93.22 93.48 Okay. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 93.68 93.93 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 123.13 124.14 I like the timeline. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 127.3 131.02 So it's all, whatever inaccurate and well 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 124.7 127.3 Actually for that I was just copying the one straight out of the other documents. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 138.5 139.46 Basically that's fine, yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 137.43 138.5 Okay, yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 137.72 138.22 But yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 139.44 139.77 Um 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 138.22 139.44 Okay. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 139.26 141.35 Uh, b Let me see it. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 142.22 142.65 Oh. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 142.65 142.94 Very good. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 141.35 142.22 Oh, that's the same. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 141.11 141.74 Oh she has. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 142.44 142.63 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 141.74 142.44 She has her own. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 141.47 143.12 Yep. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 144.37 148.5 Um I'm not sure uh if we need the outline of the prototype. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 148.5 150.21 I mean what what are we gonna put into that? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 144.51 144.85 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 150.04 151.84 Well, just sorta well the thing is, yeah 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 157.07 158.97 exact yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 164.26 167.28 and so I was just saying that, you know, we could potentially do that. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 167.92 168.98 It's not something we have to 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 149.11 150.04 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 151.84 157.07 we're gonna be touching on all that during the other part for the progress and putting screen-shots and all the rest yeah 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 158.97 164.26 Well it's something that he had mentioned in the um in the previous like just to sort of have a prototype together,
EN2002b H03 MEE073 167.28 167.92 I don't know. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 154.41 156.88 Yeah, because I mean that's basically what we're doing here, isn't it? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 156.88 157.53 The whole 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 167.42 175.26 Yeah, we could because this could be just some uh a little just just describe some screen-shots or something. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 170.46 170.58 Alter. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 174.69 175.27 Yeah, 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 177.3 177.85 Yeah, sure. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 185.19 185.6 So yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 185.6 188.29 Oh yes, oh actually I have a I have that at the very end screen-shots. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 183.95 185.19 It kinda makes sense. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 191.11 191.64 So 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 180.43 183.95 just throw the screen-shots in there when you talk about what you're doing, right. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 189.36 191.11 So it's not even relevant. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 177.85 180.43 Like the thing is I was thinking even in the stuff that I was doing, I mean,
EN2002b H03 MEE073 188.29 189.36 But that didn't show up on this page. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 185.35 186.1 Or you can have 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 183.61 185.35 Yeah, you can either have and we can just ignore that bit. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 190.18 190.52 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 200.1 200.78 It doesn't 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 191.59 193.91 Yeah, you can either have the Yeah, it says screen-shot there and stuff. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 193.91 200.1 But th you can either have screen-shots by the thing, each one, or um have just a bunch of 'em in one session. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 194.27 194.5 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 201.17 209.34 Anyways, so um so yeah, this just very general structure um, I guess from this we can just pop in our little blurbs and and uh. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 200.13 201.17 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 208.88 209.92 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 209.92 213.79 I've written the topic segmentation one. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 211.63 211.86 Cool. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 211.33 211.63 Oh yeah? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 212.47 213.66 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 222.93 229.53 Um did someone else wanna throw it togeth Actually I can probably still throw it together if you want, um put your parts into into this one. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 214.54 219.77 Um so I don't know if there's other stuff that you think should be done to this, I could do that before I mail it to you guys. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 213.13 214.54 I guess. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 219.77 222.93 Um otherwise yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 222.75 223.55 Uh it should be alright. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 223.55 223.75 Do we d 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 241.8 247.54 So I'm only joking. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 229.84 237.25 I think Pernilla should do it, yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 237.25 238.59 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 238.59 239.7 Uh yeah, exactly. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 239.7 241.8 She's only gonna tell us we got it wrong anyway. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 231.2 244.43 Hmm she never said that. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 244.43 248.53 And I'm being like I don't know not a native speaker of English. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 248.53 250.92 I think is But what whatever. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 231.25 233.29 I'm the perfectionist, right. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 233.29 233.49 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 232.49 233.58 Yes. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 233.58 236.6 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 231.69 232.49 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 235.13 236.3 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 237.45 242.14 Let's just cut out the middle man, you know. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 236.3 237.45 That's a good idea. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 242.14 244.4 Just yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 251.96 252.35 Um 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 252.07 252.33 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 255.08 255.38 We'll see. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 252.67 255.08 Oh. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 257.99 259.19 I have lots of time tonight. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 256.58 257.99 I'm happy to do some as well. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 253.79 256.58 Yeah well, I mean it's up to you if you wanna keep going with that. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 259.41 259.61 Hmm. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 266.64 267.3 I'm sure 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 260.45 266.64 Um and then uh we'll send it to you and you can do the final revisions. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 275.47 294.1 so if you can work on it that and then like No, actually not. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 302.27 302.61 Yep. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 266.75 275.47 I'll uh look at it like when my usual working hours are like from twelve o'clock till three o'clock or something,
EN2002b H00 FEO070 295.95 302.27 So Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 294.1 295.95 But I'm never online on the morning. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 264.08 266.75 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 264.08 268.89 Th you can you can perfect it and 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 266.76 266.97 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 277.39 280.52 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 275.26 277.39 Oh yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 278.52 284.36 You always make me feel bad, because uh when I go to bed at like one, you're still online. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 275.33 278.52 I know, you're always online. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 284.36 285.92 You never go to bed. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 282.61 289.66 Sleep, sleep, food, sleep. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 283.05 283.37 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 286.68 289.43 Or you just leave your computer on maybe. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 289.43 291.79 Logged in. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 291.79 292 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 290.45 291.33 Always busy. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 292.8 294.09 Yeah, so maybe 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 291.33 292.8 Yeah, right. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 288.65 290.45 Yeah, you pretend. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 293.52 293.62 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 296.83 297.31 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 301.1 302.38 Anyways, alright. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 297.31 301.1 Actually I noticed that no one is. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 296.91 302.75 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 302.75 303.52 So 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 304.1 304.88 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 304.88 306.19 So I'll send it off to you. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 306.19 306.54 Then um 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 305.45 305.87 Well 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 307.64 314.18 Yeah, do what you wanna do with it first, and then I'll will look at Yeah, uh yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 314.18 317.94 And I'll send it out to you again tomorrow or whatever. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 317.94 318.1 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 307.97 308.08 Yep. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 309.52 309.86 Okay. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 311.35 312.57 Sabotage it. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 312.57 313.87 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 311.61 311.86 Right. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 312.42 312.8 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 313.29 314.64 Actually d um 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 316.2 316.77 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 322.49 324.6 Here, I'll s here's the old one. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 330.27 330.78 Um 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 318.81 322.49 I mean essentially it was what like f um you can't see it right there. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 316.77 318.81 Was there anything else we wanted to add to the time-line? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 327.72 330.27 Yeah, yeah, which just copied straight out. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 324.6 327.72 Well, that's that's the orig this the original one. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 320.7 321.19 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 323.86 325.08 Oh, there's more. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 325.08 326.36 Oh, I see. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 326.36 328.1 Oh, this is the one that okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 335.91 345.74 I think it um one thing that we could probably skip uh totally is the removing things from the audio files. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 331.01 335.91 Probably wanna think about if we wanna change our goals and stuff. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 335.63 335.91 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 345.47 349.09 That's what I thought as well, I mean do we are we are we actually gonna attempt that? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 346.95 347.26 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 347.47 348.18 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 348.21 352.59 That's no, I don't th that's that's too big, yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 349.73 351.84 Nah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 352.47 355.73 I think that's gonna be a b we don't even know how to approach that at the moment, I think. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 350.6 352.47 I don't think so either, yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 351.95 352.35 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 355.59 355.86 No. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 356.11 356.39 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 357.38 361.07 It's a good thing to have, to say we cou what we could have done if we had more time. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 368.42 368.72 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 361.07 362.26 A good future work thing, isn't it? 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 364.72 368.42 Should if we had more time, this is what we would have done. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 362.26 364.72 Stick in the conclusion of the final report. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 363.29 363.61 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 363.35 363.69 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 367.88 372.58 Unless we d unless we discover some sorta time-warp thing, it's not gonna happen. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 372.58 372.89 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 365.94 367.88 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 366.3 367.15 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 379.35 382.66 but put it under changes since the initial specification. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 382.66 389.01 And say, you know, we didn't we decided the the r time is too short, whatever. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 369.28 379.35 Um um so maybe I mean we we should we should definitely well we could probably not put it under this heading 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 367.15 369.28 Yeah, yeah, that's right. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 370.97 373.6 Yeah, if Yeah if 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 372.81 375.8 Yeah, but that's definitely one thing we could just remove. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 382.32 382.47 Yep. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 380.13 381.42 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 381.42 382.32 Yeah, sure. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 382.41 382.7 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 385.04 386.24 We don't think there's enough time. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 388.37 391.36 Or we felt there were more important things to do with our time than 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 390.9 391.71 Yes,. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 391.92 392.22 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 392.95 394.68 than worry about 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 393.84 398.48 We would prefer to concentrate on the main 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 393.36 393.84 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 401.17 401.54 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 404.96 411 And I think we should probably uh comment explicitly on the milestones here as well and say we managed to do 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 409.14 409.48 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 411.12 411.6 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 412.86 415.66 Or some of them were later, some were yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 415.66 416.31 We could even 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 411.6 412.86 This, this, and this. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 412.52 415.05 M m meet these milestones at Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 416.27 417.84 You have should have a section probably. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 415.33 416.27 Yeah, that's a good idea. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 417.51 419.38 I mean we haven't really yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 424.35 424.5 Uh 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 417.58 419.2 Like, you know, develop prototype GUI. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 419.2 424.35 We t you know, ah yeah we managed that nicely. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 417.94 418.27 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 419.68 419.97 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 420.46 420.79 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 423.51 423.68 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 421.32 423.51 Exactly. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 423.75 426 The best file on target or something. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 429.68 433.51 P plus plus or minus three days to yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 433.51 435.05 Yeah, that's that that's true too. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 425.59 426.54 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 427.91 428.81 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 428.81 429.68 Search, yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 435.05 437.86 That's true, yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 426.54 427.91 More or less. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 426.09 427.19 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 427.19 428.56 Yeah, put it put it good. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 426.17 449.5 He he d he doesn't have to know exactly what I mean, yeah m I mean it's hot finished, but it doesn't really say 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 428.01 436.08 Or t Well 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 440.06 442.51 Conceptually. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 443.8 445.95 Jesus. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 441.05 443.8 And so I've only got six days to do the topic segmentation as well. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 446.24 450.64 You don't have any uh S. P. N. L. P. assignments, do you? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 443.31 446.24 Ah that's plenty. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 448.69 451.88 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 451.88 452.49 Uh 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 460.24 460.88 M. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 452.13 454.28 And you can say yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 454.28 460.24 We uh say we are still aiming for the development to be complete on the or something. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 454.39 455.74 Speaker characterisation. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 457.48 458.02 Jesus. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 463.24 465.75 Yeah, two days ago. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 460.16 463.24 Speaker characterisation's supposed to be done already. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 460.58 460.84 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 462.38 464.42 Oh really? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 465.02 471.18 H Um is are one of those something that you wanna change and delete from our list of expectations? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 464.42 465.02 Oh Jeez. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 463.74 464.39 Whoa. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 472.98 475.92 Give me a week and I'll tell you the answer to that. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 474.96 475.76 Alright. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 475.76 478.98 Like should we put i a hint that something like that might happen into the document? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 474.36 474.96 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 473.94 474.36 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 474.85 475.93 I yeah, I 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 479 481.45 Or maybe the speaker characterisation might get slimmer. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 493.66 495.23 So it's definitely gonna be something there. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 481.89 483.21 Yeah, that's right. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 483.21 484.39 I I really wanna do it. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 484.39 486.78 I mean it's not it's not gonna be difficult. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 486.78 491.61 If at least have all the information pop up that is already in the meta-data file. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 491.61 493.66 That's gonna be no work at all. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 481.94 482.56 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 484.84 485.61 Yeah, I know. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 482.56 483.21 Alright. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 485.61 485.88 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 483.21 484.84 Okay. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 483.22 485.8 Probably we won't disappear it, yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 492.18 492.77 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 493.43 493.66 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 492.77 493.43 Yeah, true. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 491.3 492.18 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 493.19 493.32 Yep. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 492.25 492.78 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 492.78 493.19 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 495.34 497.81 Yeah, we won't make it disappear, but we might thin it down a bit. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 495.42 496.39 Okay, sounds good. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 496.03 496.18 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 498.07 498.27 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 500.95 503.12 Depends how how how how things m 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 499.21 500.95 Um but we might not, you know, but we might have time. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 501.3 504.84 Yeah, it might turn out easier than thought. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 506.75 507.24 Um 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 508.61 513.48 The topic segmentation with the L. C. seg and text tiles basically done. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 520.69 522.98 Let's see what happens. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 513.48 517.44 It just needs to be done because you know what I mean, the co yeah, tuned, yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 517.44 520.69 A search through the parameters or something. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 515.51 516.85 Tuned I guess or yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 513.63 515.51 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 516.85 517.76 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 522.48 522.72 Cool. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 526.11 526.41 Mm. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 526.6 527.41 Yeah, sounds good. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 530.15 530.59 What else? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 530.52 530.7 Okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 534.29 534.52 Hmm. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 537.4 540.16 Shall we change the deadlines? 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 536.78 537.4 I don't know. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 537.74 543.53 We should probably d sorry, we should probably do another responsibility of packages as well. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 543.53 549.61 That's what he hinted that we should also um indicate who who is responsible for what from now on. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 555.19 557.66 Maybe more detailed specifically. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 549.45 549.84 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 548.33 549.45 Right. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 549.84 553.12 Well I could probably just copy that straight out of the other one as well. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 553.12 555.19 That's essentially the same as it was. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 552.4 553.41 Yeah, pretty much. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 557.64 560.02 Well you could put, you know yeah, I don't know. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 565.42 565.73 Mm. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 574.15 576.5 Should we I mean now, yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 567.91 569.05 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 576.5 580.7 I mean we have it now like inverted and you have the other But what about the m 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 569.05 574.15 Should we, I don't know, do you think, Mike, about our things that we had together? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 575.94 576.38 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 578.91 580.16 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 576.38 578.91 I think so, yeah, like, yeah, inverted file. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 575.04 575.94 Split those apart? 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 583.96 585.93 Shall we just 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 581.98 583.96 Removing disfluencies? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 584.7 587.57 Well if we're skipping the audio one, and then things got easier. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 583.51 584.7 Oh. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 587.57 588.17 Um 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 587.75 593.73 Yeah, we just keep it together on the the pap there right now and just see what what? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 597.49 598.52 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 589.79 591.14 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 591.59 593.83 Have you taken any more of a look at it? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 598.52 599.26 We could probably 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 593.83 595.45 Have you taken any more of a look at it? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 591.14 591.59 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 596.71 597.49 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 595.45 596.71 At the disfluenc okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 595.65 597.5 No, not the disfluencies. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 597.5 598.7 No, haven't. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 601.66 605.04 I know if we'll have time to look at that before tomorrow. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 607.24 611.47 Like I'll claim one, you'll claim the other for the search things, and then we could leave that one as a a joint one. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 605.04 607.24 We could just make it up. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 603.87 604.78 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 604.78 606.94 Yeah, might be yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 606.77 607.63 So um 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 612.23 612.47 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 613.94 614 'Kay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 612.95 613.94 And that'd be good? 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 614.41 614.94 Something 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 614.96 617.66 Have you managed any further on the search thing? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 617.8 623.65 Um I found finally today something that I can build it in and it uh I should have something for tomorrow. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 631.58 634.36 So I wanna get something I wanna see this, I wanna get it together. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 639.52 639.91 So 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 634.36 639.52 Have an image in my mind and I just wanna see it on the thing and then get a nice screen-shot. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 623.65 631.58 I should uh, you know, at least very least have uh um a GUI and uh wire I'll be wiring that in hopefully tomorrow morning. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 627.98 628.28 Alright. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 629.2 629.73 That's nice. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 636.13 637.08 Yeah yeah yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 639.41 639.63 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 640.95 641.4 Um 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 642.15 646.51 Yeah, my intent is to work on these things tomorrow a bit more. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 646.51 653.48 So also, I don't know if we send it in on the afternoon, maybe I can add a few sentences too when I'm done. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 647 647.36 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 650.78 655.57 W well well it doesn't really matter, I mean you could write the sentences first as well. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 665.37 668.01 well I'll do this, I'll do that, you know, it just all falls together. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 662.73 665.37 I mean you write down the words and the ideas as, oh, okay,
EN2002b H03 MEE073 648.6 650.78 Well. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 659.12 662.73 I mean and also some sometimes it's a bit of a motivating factor too. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 655.57 659.12 I mean with the intention that this is done. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 658.09 658.77 Yeah yeah yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 658.77 659.2 Certainly. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 662.81 663.43 Oh yep. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 659.68 662.81 And if it's not, Hopefully it won't be. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 658.42 659.68 Then it's done. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 666.23 666.94 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 666.94 667.65 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 667.65 668.01 We'll see. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 673.9 674.74 How's that coming along? 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 668.25 672.39 How about the underlying data for it? 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 672.39 673.9 For the d inverted file. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 672.54 672.77 Hmm. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 674.06 674.32 Oh. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 682.74 688.05 Um I think uh I was wondering about that is uh, I haven't looked at it so much 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 688.05 696.65 but if m any of you guys know how we could do the like from the uh extract words that you did,
EN2002b H00 FEO070 679.62 682.74 But yeah but I'll work on it. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 696.65 702.03 like also in uh in this extract t time stamps on stuff, so we can is it 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 675.81 679.62 Well, I was still like struggling with Java stuff. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 679.41 679.73 Oh yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 679.83 680.18 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 681.44 682.04 Coming along. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 734.37 735.34 I think it returns it double. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 701.41 712.09 Just yeah, well it just um when he pulls up the segments um part of that, one of the f one of the attributes you do get attributes. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 700.71 701.41 Easy, yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 714.56 719.27 Search through those and and then it just you can that will tell you what attributes it's got. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 724.35 731.45 So you just say um get attribute and put I think it's I think the method's called get attribute and just it's called start time and end time. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 731.45 734.37 And that will tell you the start times and end times. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 719.27 724.35 And then you can either do it automatically or you can just hard-code and say, look, get me the time stamps. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 712.09 714.56 get attributes, it returns a list of attributes. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 705.52 705.85 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 711.94 712.39 Okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 718.84 719.2 Okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 729.79 730.1 Okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 731.78 732.11 Okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 734.04 734.33 Okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 736.4 736.74 Okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 741 741.39 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 741.39 743.74 So now I could just put it in some 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 744.47 749.08 Yeah, that's on the um the n the the NOM right elements. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 749.08 752.3 The the the uh the object is a NOM right element, I think. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 745.04 746.06 Tuple or something, yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 748.44 749.02 What, on the 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 752.26 752.63 Okay. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 754.88 755.66 Mm. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 756.4 757.74 That should uh tell you what it is. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 757.76 758.83 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 758.83 759.62 I'll take a look at that. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 767.81 771.34 So w is there um did you have you made uh another M. browser? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 771.34 772.73 Is there something that I should 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 784.73 785.39 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 783.06 783.62 Oh really? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 783.62 784.73 Since Friday,? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 796.99 798.47 Alright, yeah, okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 801.42 809.66 Um yeah, so if you although there's stuff out there that actually I'm gonna try and minimise the amount of changes I make to M. browser anyways. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 788.17 788.56 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 776.21 779.69 so I might just um delete what I've done and copy again from yours. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 771.59 776.21 Um there is, but I w I haven't made a lot of changes to it 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 809.66 810.36 Shouldn't um 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 795.98 796.99 Alright. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 799.69 801.42 Okay, cool. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 786.76 788.17 Oh right, I see. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 785.39 786.76 I thought you said okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 798.47 799.69 Right. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 795.08 795.98 No, okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 779.69 783.06 'Cause I'm sure you've probably made some changes already. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 788.56 795.08 I thought you said that you had written some things that maybe have caused some bugs and that you were gonna fix those on the weekend or something. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 782.21 785.24 Not since you looked at it last, no. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 785.24 786.71 But I will tonight, that's the point. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 795.06 796.43 No. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 798.86 802.5 Weekend was out. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 796.43 798.86 After the weekend. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 830.92 834.71 So that when they, you know, click on that, it's gonna go to the relevant thing. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 815.82 820.29 um like if we have topics as well as transcripts as well as what was the other? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 811.65 812.48 shouldn't be an issue. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 820.29 821.14 Summaries. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 812.48 815.82 Actually just to clarify last week when we were talking about our search results 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 825.02 830.92 Or do we want them all in one pane with like an icon or a different colour or something to indicate what type of result they are? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 821.14 825.02 Um do we want separate result panes uh for each of those? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 834.71 839.98 Like just if they check all three say topics, summaries, blah blah blah, have three different windows come up? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 837.44 838.5 Mm-hmm, yeah, yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 841.48 843.59 Or three like sub sub-panes sort of. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 848.35 850.8 Or is there, you know does the window get larger? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 850.8 853.45 What's there kind of what are you thinking? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 846.27 848.35 Or is that a r a second results pane? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 842.13 846.27 Well at the moment is there at the moment is there a window that comes up? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 847.14 847.75 Um 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 872.55 873.84 One, two or three, depending on which ones you check. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 860.46 864.85 Um I don't know if we still wanna keep it that way, but that's uh that's what I was gonna be working. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 868.02 872.55 You know, splits that thing into like two or three or whatever that is. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 878.66 882.46 Just trying to think if there's gonna be any other issues down the road um depending on 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 864.85 868.02 So so it's just like you click those and it's just loads up. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 857.33 860.46 um so it'll be on the search window, bottom half of the search window. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 873.84 878.66 And then um so if we wanna do it that way, you know like it probably doesn't matter too much. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 850.39 857.33 What um I thought what we sorta discussed last week was to have it sort um the same window,
EN2002b H02 FEO072 859.8 860.16 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 864.63 865.01 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 869.5 869.86 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 868.49 869.5 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 872.08 872.66 Um 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 880.11 880.7 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 884.42 888.47 Do you have um three separate windows for the three separate different types of results? 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 882.4 884.42 What, have th th uh you confuse me. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 902.12 904.67 So for one for topics, one for I don't not really tabs. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 898.59 902.12 then it'll uh You know, there'll be two result panes. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 904.67 909.32 Um But then you can't see all of them at the same time, and it's just like 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 888.13 894.09 No, just just panes, just result panes for each of the three no no no, no No. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 895.03 898.59 So so it's just when we click, you know, topics and summaries for what we wanna search,
EN2002b H03 MEE073 894.09 895.03 No, no. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 893.34 893.86 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 894.8 895.29 Right, yep. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 893.86 894.8 Okay. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 890.21 893.34 Okay, not not three different okay, okay, cool. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 892.09 896.25 Pop-ups. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 897.7 897.85 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 902.04 902.99 Or tabs or something. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 901.32 902.04 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 904.05 906.83 Yeah, I quite like the idea of a tab in that case. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 907.55 908.62 All of them, no. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 908.55 913.54 But you wouldn't want to compare the result the topic one topic result with one summary result, would you? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 913.03 917.83 Well it's no, but the thing is if you're looking if you could check them both um you wanna see all the results. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 916.53 918.31 Actually mm, yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 918.31 921.68 Especially if you get if you get results for the same meeting. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 918.39 919.61 Yeah yeah, it's three panes. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 923.14 933.2 so the summary and the topic and the transcript are um So Um or we could just put them all into one result pane on that same window and just indicate 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 922.82 923.14 Yeah 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 921.78 922.82 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 924.17 925.58 Yeah, yeah, it's true. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 922.92 924.17 Maybe yeah, yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 932.13 934.92 I mean we could we could order them by meeting, for example. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 930.8 932.13 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 942.33 942.96 It's a lot of work. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 940.88 942.33 But that's a hassle too. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 935.86 936.2 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 934.92 935.86 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 936.2 940.88 Oh yeah, I guess that was the other thing whether we wanna have this reorder by columns and all that. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 939.86 944.97 Yeah well, I mean uh if, you know, that's uh you even a second step, the first question is do we want to order them. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 938.46 939.86 How to order it. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 944.97 946.59 How do we wanna order them in the first place. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 946.52 947.29 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 952.88 955.98 So yeah, that kinda makes most sense. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 947.29 949.78 I think, yeah, probably by meeting makes most sense. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 949.78 952.88 I mean essentially they're tem you know, in time order. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 950.34 950.82 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 957.25 958.42 Yeah, maybe we should do that. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 957.67 958.35 Least uh 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 964.58 965.85 Should be fairly easy, I guess. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 959.59 961.34 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 962.04 964.58 Should be an easy no, I don't know actually. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 961.34 962.04 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 982.04 984.33 Yeah, m why don't you just um 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 985.44 986.38 colour-code those. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 987.48 987.76 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 987.97 990.22 The results to three different colours. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1004.52 1012.6 it may be difficult to get that information back once it's just in a list-box, an item in a list-box. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1001.75 1004.52 And then if we're highlighting something in a transcript window,
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1012.6 1014.96 So let's there's yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 999.46 1001.75 It's hard to tell whether it was a a transcript or whatever. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1014.96 1015.99 Whereas if it's coming from 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 993.64 999.46 just that it's hard to tell what kind of object it was originally, once it's put into like a list-box or something. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 988.88 993.64 Thinking sometimes in a case like that, like a run across um in other languages,
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1013.5 1014.36 No, but if you 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1022.7 1029.35 rock bottom lev level saying if th if you found a segment, then colour it print it in red or whatever, and 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1019.36 1022.7 and then there's some if statement saying s straight on the, you know,
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1015.61 1019.36 If you if you do it straight from you know, you get th you get the result,
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1026.26 1026.52 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1027.72 1027.99 Right. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1029.22 1029.85 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1029.85 1030.36 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1030.36 1031.08 It's just silly. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1030.83 1031.79 As opposed to 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1033.29 1038.42 Um yeah, it's just like from past experience I've there's goofy little things that happen,
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1038.42 1045.99 and it just doesn't let you save certain things, and it's just kinda um trying to to do a different kind of to go to a different window. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1032.64 1033.29 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1045.99 1050.8 So if you wanna go to the actual highlight the transcript or highlight the topic or highlight the summary. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1053.08 1058.35 'cause you're working with an event handler within the one panel or list-box or whatever it is. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1050.8 1053.08 At that point, that's sorta where it starts getting a little bit tricky 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1058.35 1058.9 And uh 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1038.84 1039.24 Oh right. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1042.04 1043.3 Well, have a look. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1041.38 1042.04 Ah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1049.91 1050.85 Oh, mm-hmm. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1053.35 1054.52 Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1058.78 1060.13 Oh, oh, I see, yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1066.77 1069.52 Or delegates or whatever the all that stuff. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1069.52 1070.83 So Anyways 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1060.24 1066.77 So Um there are ways around it, but you know, whether I'll be able to figure something out like that till before tomorrow yeah, I know. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1063.58 1065.45 You you have to use actions. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1069.55 1075.83 Um yeah, I mean um at the moment it works it works with highlighting in in the transcript window, doesn't it? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1075.72 1075.88 Right. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1075.88 1076.56 I think so. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1077.17 1077.69 So 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1101.16 1101.58 I don't 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1078.51 1086.01 I think he was saying that as long as we implement that um interface um it should work with anything that we do. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1091.2 1093.43 Um wasn't Jonathan saying something about that. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1086.01 1087.63 Like highlighting the yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1100.58 1101.16 I don't know. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1093.43 1097.6 I think it was just like as long as we implement one of these interfaces for this particular type of window 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1087.63 1091.2 I think that was um who is saying that? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1097.6 1100.58 we should be able to have that highlighting happen. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1090.1 1091.45 What do you mean it should work with anything? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1100.2 1100.52 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1102.93 1103.35 Anyways 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1104.98 1105.24 Okay. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1105.72 1114.8 Yeah, I mean the whole um the m what fills the transcription box and all of these boxes is a special sort of pane made by NITE. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1116.76 1117.13 Um 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1114.8 1116.76 So I am not sure what it's called now. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1114.85 1115.4 Okay. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1119.51 1120.94 Um some 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1122.14 1124.78 Um no, but I know what it's called. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1128.78 1133.5 As I said, you know, if you if you left-click on something for example, it highlights automatically. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1133.5 1135.93 So maybe it comes with something clever as well. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1124.78 1128.78 And that comes with a whole load of highlighting extras as well. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1129.08 1129.86 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1128.53 1129.08 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1129.86 1130.11 Alright. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1132.98 1133.33 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1134.76 1139.68 Okay, maybe I should maybe I should use that as well in my Yeah, okay. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1138.11 1138.55 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1142.07 1142.25 Is it? 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1139.36 1142.07 It's called a NITE text pane or something, isn't it? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1144.64 1145.18 NITE 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1141.47 1144.64 No, I'm sure it hasn't got pane in it. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1149.09 1150.49 Might yep. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1146.35 1149.09 I don't know, text text yeah, something like that. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1150.49 1153.17 NOM text there is alright. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1155.47 1157.19 NITE Oh. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1153.17 1155.47 Yeah, why what's NOM anyway? 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1146.91 1149.55 Text area or something something like that, yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1150.51 1150.8 Hmm. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1152.08 1153.21 Mostly things are called NOM. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1151.39 1152.08 NOM text, yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1153.21 1153.64 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1155.04 1155.2 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1153.67 1155.04 Yeah, why. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1159.91 1164.32 NITE object model, I think that's what 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1155.33 1159.91 NITE object model, I think. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1157.04 1158.71 Okay, that makes sense. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1159.11 1159.74 What do you say? 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1165.4 1166.82 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1175.01 1175.58 Mm. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1178.69 1179.82 With the um 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1187.66 1196.75 'Cause um I was wondering how we're gonna write it back to H. T. M. L. I mean X. M. L., if we take if we did the processing. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1181.3 1185.69 The removing the disfluencies, have you done anything with that yet? 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1185.69 1187.66 Anybody. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1185.97 1186.46 No. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1186.46 1187.18 No, we haven't. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1198.28 1198.7 Um 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1198.29 1199.79 Writing it back to X. M. L. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1210.16 1213.39 transcript no, 'cause then we need all the other data if we wanna keep it a transcript, right. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1203.35 1210.16 Like not ev not as X. M. L., just sort of as a Was that What was that um What transcripts recent oh no,
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1199.68 1203.35 It's I thought we were just going to have that as words. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1201.59 1202.03 Seems 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1205.75 1206.91 There's a blop of text. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1208.2 1208.72 Text file. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1222.15 1222.4 But 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1218.28 1222.15 There is some bizarre method that puts things back into X. M. L. format. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1213.98 1218.28 You will very much limit what you can do with it if it's not in X. M. L. format. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1214.71 1215.02 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1216.31 1217.38 Yeah, that's true. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1217.83 1218.15 Good point. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1216.35 1217.83 Yeah, that's true, yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1221.44 1223.53 Why do you why do we want it in X. M. L. there? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1223.53 1228.57 I mean I thought we'd we'd just selectively selectively write the X. M. L. that we've got. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1230.28 1230.81 What 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1231.13 1233.03 So as as opposed to 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1231.4 1231.95 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1233.11 1237.83 Oh, select what we want, just take bits of the X. M. L. and take only it takes certain segments. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1237.83 1238.08 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1235.77 1236.1 Yeah t 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1236.72 1237.05 Hmm. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1249.1 1251.18 Not not store it at all whatsoever. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1244.85 1249.1 We'll just put an if loop in it that leaves out some of the print statements. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1243.13 1244.85 At the moment it prints out all of them. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1237.2 1243.13 Yeah, only only print out certain um certain segments, the segments that we want just selectively. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1237.24 1238.35 Yeah, like 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1249.17 1249.63 Alright. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1248.01 1249.17 Okay, yeah, yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1244.58 1246.17 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1246.17 1247.13 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1247.13 1248.01 Certain segments. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1243.83 1244.58 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1245.09 1245.34 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1248.04 1248.56 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1251.23 1251.99 Okay. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1251.99 1252.49 That 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1256.64 1259.02 That's sorta what we were thinking before. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1252.86 1255.31 Okay, then that's then that's not yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1259.02 1260.33 Actually, but this makes more sense. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1255.31 1256.64 Yeah, I know. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1252.52 1252.86 Oh yeah? 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1252.88 1255.3 Yeah, that's what and that's what I think we like 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1253.28 1253.8 Because 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1255.8 1256.4 That's what 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1254.58 1255.8 It says something different there. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1256.5 1256.83 Okay. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1257.24 1257.89 Oh right. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1261.2 1265.33 But that will mean that you can only do things on actually no uh, 'cause you need to do things on word level. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1265.33 1266.23 So yeah, that's fine. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1257.89 1259.42 Then written to a written to a file. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1259.42 1261.2 I kinda doubt just that it would ever be done. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1261.76 1262.08 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1266.24 1269.89 Yeah, if we're gonna do the X. M. L., then fine, that's that probably makes it easier. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1268.47 1268.9 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1268.96 1271.47 I mean, we're not really uh well, I mean 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1272.9 1275.71 we're not gonna do much more than just look at the 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1277.16 1284.5 the rem like the text problem with disfluencies, 'cause we're not gonna search it and we're not gonna like listen to it. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1285.46 1285.74 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1286.29 1286.58 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1286.44 1288.16 Since we're not doing the audio thing. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1289.53 1289.89 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1293.77 1295.03 But, well anyway, yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1289.89 1293.77 So I guess just to displaying it is a alright. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1290.48 1291.02 So what? 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1294.64 1295.08 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1293.16 1294.64 It's fine. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1293.44 1294.33 As text, you mean? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1296.17 1296.94 Yeah, that's right. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1294.04 1296.17 Yeah, yeah, you don't really need to do much more with it. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1296.06 1296.33 No. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1296.59 1297.57 Yeah, but it would 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1301.2 1304.71 create a text file, take the disfluencies out of the text file and then yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1297.04 1301.2 The thing is like well how would we display the like if we do take disfluencies out and just c you know,
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1309.75 1310 And 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1304.73 1309.75 It won't look like it won't say, speaker X. says this, speaker Y. says that, speaker Z. says this. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1303.01 1304.73 It would just be blurb like a summary. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1308.7 1309.29 Well that is true. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1314.86 1315.68 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1315.68 1316.31 That's true too. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1309.67 1314.86 Unless we extract that out of the file when we create the text file. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1312.87 1315.98 Then it will look ugly probably, 'cause it will look just black and white. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1312.41 1312.87 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1315.98 1317.25 Unless you want as dark colouring. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1318.91 1321.49 Like just like yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1322.9 1323.26 No. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1321.49 1322.9 No. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1316.77 1318.91 It's probably best and do as you said. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1319.3 1322.33 I don't think it's gonna take long to to produce anyway. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1322.33 1331.22 It's just another um I mean these meetings are not endlessly long, it's just words, and to print all of them out selectively 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1321.63 1323.82 No no, I don't think that's I think it's true. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1323.81 1324.12 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1332.36 1333.58 It does it on the fly anyway, didn't it. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1333.58 1333.85 So 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1334.08 1334.49 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1335.1 1338.59 So then just goes through it and says if this word equals that then print. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1335.23 1335.44 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1339.32 1339.5 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1339.47 1339.74 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1340.95 1341.48 Um 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1341.83 1343.37 Just a bunch of if statements is 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1344.16 1350.16 You could nearly do it together with with uh the transcription with the original transcription, have them run parallel. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1344.27 1344.44 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1355.9 1360.24 print it on both both panes, and if it's not a proper word, then print it only on one. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1351.86 1355.9 So if certain, you know if it's a proper word,
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1360.24 1362.32 But I mean that's that's, you know, fancy, but 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1361.79 1362.02 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1364.93 1365.7 But um 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1367.89 1369.55 You just fatten the code out a bit. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1365.98 1367.89 This is probably and that's probably not that much more difficult. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1369.55 1371.27 I It would be the same thing. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1365.01 1365.98 Yeah, you probably could actually. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1367.23 1367.7 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1370.75 1371.36 But then 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1369.52 1370.75 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1372.51 1381.84 you know, the the b the good way of doing it um not together is that you if someone doesn't wanna look at the the,
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1381.84 1384.07 you know, the chop file, then you don't ever have to produce it. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1383 1385.07 And they can't yeah, exactly. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1385.48 1388.26 So But I mean you can, you know 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1395.83 1401.4 If it's gonna take too long, we'll think about writing it to a file and doing it off-line. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1388.26 1395.83 you can write we can write something like um we'll try and do it on the fly and and observe if if that gonna is gonna take too long. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1397.63 1397.85 Right. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1400.51 1405.36 It's just uh they'd just be if statements when they fast if statements, aren't they. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1405.36 1406.96 This is loads of if statements. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1400.16 1400.51 Shouldn't, no. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1400.92 1401.09 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1402.99 1403.82 Yeah, i um. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1403.04 1404.01 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1439.63 1442.15 Although on the fly it's typic it's it's typically pretty fun. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1433.73 1437.25 And then that way we could even pre-process that before hand. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1421.95 1428.37 I mean to process X. M. L. into like in just creates whatever file it's gonna be in. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1411.01 1417.75 flip it into uh yeah, just uh transforms um like um style sheet, the um X. M. L. style sheet. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1417.75 1421.95 And then it's kinda like there's usually things built in to well should be built into Java 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1405.31 1411.01 I was just thinking as well, I mean we could probably even use like X. S. L. T. to kinda just transform it and, you know,
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1404.01 1405.31 Or I don't know. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1428.37 1431.07 Uh it's been a f couple of years since I've looked into anything like this. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1431.07 1433.73 But uh that might even be an easier way. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1437.25 1439.63 I don't know, do well we don't wanna have to do that, right? 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1412.46 1412.95 Well is that 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1416.84 1417.38 Oh right. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1442.61 1445.69 Even trying to read it in X. M. L. with Java was complicated enough. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1445.69 1451.37 I gave up doing that completely and just defaulted back to n uh NITE stuff, 'cause it was much much much easier. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1439.34 1442.61 I wouldn't wanna have to put it take to put it back into X. M. L. with Java. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1446.57 1447.31 Oh really? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1447.31 1448.9 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1445.32 1446.57 Oh right? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1448.9 1449.17 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1450.71 1450.99 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1451.46 1451.85 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1455.18 1459.69 Otherwise, you're gonna be s Java, trying to do s it was just so complicated it was ridiculous. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1452.83 1455.18 So if we can do it with NITE stuff, do it with NITE stuff, I think. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1455.24 1456 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1454.44 1455.24 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1461.61 1461.92 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1459 1461.61 Okay. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1470.04 1470.93 It was mad. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1461.8 1462.89 Don't believe it. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1462.89 1470.04 You have to d start defining object models like the NITE thing and getting all bizarre w weird things. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1465.96 1467.33 Are you serious? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1465.51 1465.96 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1468.95 1469.46 It's insane. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1492.02 1494.08 It'd be nice to just sorta see what they're doing. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1478.57 1486.85 'Cause it would be nice to have all the tools there and just like have the object model and just kind of like plug and play with everything and just to actually use the system,
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1475.22 1478.57 Like just to see h what they what system they used to develop this stuff. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1471.68 1475.22 Actually I was thinking I might try and talk to who is it, Jonathan and Jean? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1486.85 1489.21 you know, at a higher level rather than kinda, you know 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1494.08 1498.27 So I might uh try and contact them, see if there's, I don't know, 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1489.21 1492.02 playing around with a little bit of code and modifying their code and doing this and that. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1475.51 1475.84 Hmm. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1475.84 1476.08 Mm. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1502.25 1505.42 Just to get things, I don't know, moving at a higher level I guess. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1499.64 1502.25 any other hints they could give us. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1506.88 1511.37 It seems it'd be more interesting to use it as a a real developer would. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1517.43 1517.72 So 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1513.04 1517.43 'Cause just seems like a little tinkering here and there and just adding couple things and, I don't know. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1518.81 1521.03 That's what programming is all about, I'm afraid. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1518.89 1519.29 A channel. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1518.9 1519.07 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1533.16 1534.41 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1523.97 1533.16 It should be conceptual and, you know, coming up with the the brilliant ideas and then just, yeah, bringing those to reality. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1520.34 1523.05 N no no, it shouldn't be, no. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1523.05 1523.97 It should be higher level. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1534.41 1538.11 I don't know. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1533.23 1534.32 That's the higher people. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1531.59 1532.66 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1532.66 1533.23 Maybe. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1538.55 1540.32 I have a friend there too. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1538.95 1539.67 Well, I mean 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1548.1 1549.7 if you wanna do it. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1549.7 1554.09 I I personally don't wanna mess with uh writing files or anything the moment. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1540.87 1548.1 yeah, why don't you put both of both of those ideas in into that that paragraph and say you'll have a look at both or something 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1554.09 1555.26 I wanna do it superficially. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1547.56 1547.78 Hmm. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1549.41 1549.67 Hmm. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1551.52 1551.82 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1565.82 1570.89 But yeah, just, I don't know, just it doesn't make any difference really either way to me. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1564.3 1565.82 Text file or X. M. L. or whatever it is. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1563.72 1564.3 It's file. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1574.02 1577.49 Um that's about the only issue I have with on the fly, whether it's fast enough. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1558.64 1563.72 Like the thing that I was thinking there is well is that once it's done for a f you know, one meeting, it's done and it's there. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1570.89 1574.02 It's like hmm if it's fast enough on the fly, then sure. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1563.14 1563.48 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1578.06 1578.48 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1578.67 1579.39 I spoke to. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1578.82 1578.93 Hmm. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1581.82 1586.49 it's just if it's loading the file and doing all the rest and processing the p 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1579.56 1581.82 Especially with Java and all this other crap. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1586.43 1587.95 Well it has already learned it anyway. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1588.08 1588.36 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1589.08 1590.85 Yeah, it's always it's, is it. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1591.2 1591.4 Right. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1594 1594.94 Should be fine, yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1592.37 1594 It's just a it's just a for loop, really. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1594.84 1595.09 Yep. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1594.15 1594.84 Yep. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1598.38 1598.7 Hmm. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1594.23 1594.96 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1594.96 1598.38 Whether it runs out of memory. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1596.79 1597.24 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1600.22 1600.68 Um 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1603.86 1607.3 So should we all write um a letter or two about future work as well? 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1608.91 1611.31 Yeah, I included a future work in my own section. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1611.31 1611.61 But 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1609.14 1609.96 A word or two. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1611.8 1612.13 Oh right. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1611.81 1612.13 Yeah yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1612.82 1622.74 I just said I said what I've done so far and what I'm gonna do, and some pro some issues. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1615.22 1616.81 Yeah, well maybe you could 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1618.05 1619.22 Actually yeah, that makes sense. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1617.26 1618.05 Right. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1617.99 1619.36 Maybe you could split that up and 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1620.54 1623.83 Um oh like into each separate I know yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1622.74 1623.83 I think you lose the 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1622.78 1626.42 Yeah, like here is what we've done already, and then, you know, down here 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1625.6 1627.6 You might lose a bit of continuity if you do that, though. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1628.52 1631.94 But sometimes it's easier to have the top it in its own its sections, if you see what I mean. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1627.6 1628.52 That's what I was thinking. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1631.94 1634.17 So you talk about speaker characterisation, you say what you've done and 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1626.33 1626.67 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1631.46 1632.1 Yeah, act 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1632.73 1633.37 Mm. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1641.92 1642.04 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1633.26 1633.72 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1635.37 1640.18 But maybe at the end, maybe just uh a point form of, you know, things that we're still working on, things that we'll do. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1640.18 1641.92 Yeah, yeah yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1633.72 1635.37 I think that does make sense. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1639.19 1639.55 Maybe. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1643.81 1647.47 Because if you have a discursive thing here and then another discursive thing there,
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1641.01 1643.55 Something bullet pr bullet bullet points. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1639.85 1641.01 Goals or something. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1643.55 1643.81 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1647.47 1650.61 if they're not together you lose a lot of the um the continuity, I think. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1642.55 1643.57 Yeah, maybe. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1641.93 1642.55 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1641.06 1641.93 Yeah, that's right. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1643.57 1643.95 Maybe. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1643.59 1643.84 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1647.12 1648.01 Yeah, I know what you mean. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1649.3 1650.79 Mm yeah, maybe you're right. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1650.79 1651.14 No. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1649.68 1650.91 Yep. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1650.91 1651.41 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1651.41 1652.26 Actually I'll just 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1652.02 1652.43 But um 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1681.12 1682.1 Oh that's true. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1688.4 1690.92 We're all half-asleep, aren't we? 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1683.33 1685.47 Sounds good. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1685.47 1688.4 Anything else anyone wants to talk about? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1685.01 1685.96 Hmm 'kay. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1685.22 1686.75 So apart from that yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1693.39 1693.78 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1693.65 1694.26 Burnt out. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1704.05 1705.52 Yeah um 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1696.83 1704.05 Yeah, maybe asleep. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1700.46 1712.29 But uh So we're all still writing our um summaries, sending them to you, you send it on to Pernilla. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1697.06 1698.5 What. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1699.34 1700.46 Maybe asleep. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1698.5 1699.34 Huh. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1697.07 1702.68 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1705.25 1705.57 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1702.68 1705.25 Snore. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1701.24 1701.72 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1717.24 1721.14 Uh okay I c I can yeah sure, if you wanna send them to me that's fine. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1721.14 1724.73 Yeah, okay, actually no no n actually that's a good idea, I'll take one quick look over 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1715.16 1717.24 Or do you want to or no? 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1724.73 1727.28 try and get it as good as I think that we yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1711.65 1714.47 Or or she'll just take she can take it from now. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1714.47 1715.16 Doesn't matter. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1715.34 1716.16 How kind. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1716.87 1717.9 What? 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1723.38 1723.58 But 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1720.91 1723.38 It doesn't matter for me either. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1719.79 1720.91 I don't know. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1727.61 1730.69 I mean if we both yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1726.91 1727.61 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1727.03 1727.45 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1727.42 1728.28 You stick it together. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1728.28 1728.99 She'll shine it. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1729.42 1729.72 Okay. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1729.65 1730.65 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1730.65 1736.52 And then send it on to us so we can nod. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1732.72 1733.54 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1732.83 1736.28 Purely a formality. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1741.99 1743.81 It like no. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1736.6 1741.99 And correct back any he like things that I thought was wrong in English or whatever. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1733.04 1735.68 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1743.81 1747.03 That's not that or whatever. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1735.68 1736.6 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1735.97 1736.67 Yeah. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1740.89 1749.96 Okay. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1751.09 1754.52 I haven't used my pen. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1749.96 1751.09 Sounds good. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1740.99 1742.9 Right. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1749.86 1750.22 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1742.9 1748.48 Okay, we're changing dialogue back to hello Jean. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1748.48 1749.86 No. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1741.7 1742.08 Yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1744.93 1746.69 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1750.66 1750.97 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1752.19 1752.66 Oh. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1755.4 1759.83 I write wrote like four lines of whatever. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1753.96 1755.4 It's sad. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1759.83 1763.53 Um yeah, twelve thirty tomorrow with 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1752.51 1753.96 Oh. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1754.79 1755.81 I have. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1759.32 1759.95 Okay. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1763.64 1765.43 Oh, oh, right, okay. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1764.43 1767 S Steve-O. . 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1765.16 1765.68 Steve. 
EN2002b H02 FEO072 1765.67 1766.35 Oh God. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1772.67 1773.56 Yeah. 
EN2002b H00 FEO070 1768.73 1772.67 Yeah. 
EN2002b H03 MEE073 1768.82 1771.79 Well, I thought you had tomorrow off. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1782.73 1783.94 Twelve days and write, yeah. 
EN2002b H01 MEE071 1783.94 1786.59 Not much without any of us 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 20.66 23.06 Oops. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 25.41 27.56 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 23.06 25.41 Does it squeeze in, aye, like that? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 21.49 21.7 'Kay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 37.21 38.46 Okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 46.45 46.71 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 50.99 51.6 There's more uh 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 47.03 47.64 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 47.64 50.99 Did you wanna take a look at comments. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 53.27 56.56 Did we get seven out of ten for the other one? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 56.98 59.37 It's going uh. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 54.96 56.98 Yep. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 55.6 55.77 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 61.76 62.05 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 61.32 61.76 Oh? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 63.55 65.23 Excellent. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 64.31 65.31 Okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 67.06 67.31 Sure. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 67.11 68.2 Okay, right, see ya. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 67.59 67.93 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 76.13 76.38 Okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 91.79 93.53 just said the same things you just said. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 93.86 94.19 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 97.45 99.28 Yep. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 97.62 98.22 Mm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 103.84 103.98 'Kay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 103.98 105.16 So how we're getting along? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 107.14 107.59 Not bad. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 116.23 120.2 Like if you're in a topic and it goes and highlights the topic in the text or whatever,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 126.46 127.22 N. O. M. or 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 120.2 126.46 is there a particular type of control that like is there one of these N. X. T. or sorry, um NITE controls? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 107.69 116.23 Um one thing that I was wondering, is there a standard control that you use to connect the different things? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 146.26 148.56 So you should probably look at the 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 125.07 128.6 Um I think there is. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 143.33 146.26 Um it has some sort of highlighting stuff there. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 128.6 141.28 Just because um the the topic box and all this is um is based on um, oh what's it called, nom no, NITE text area or something. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 141.28 143.33 In text area, is that what it is? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 140.86 141.4 Okay. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 151.04 152 Um 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 155.36 157.31 I'm not sure if it's in-built though, to be honest. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 167.08 167.79 No. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 157.93 158.54 Mm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 162.28 166.69 Like other topics or well we're gonna do one for speaker I guess and all the rest, right? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 158.54 162.28 You haven't had to build any new windows to do that sort of thing. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 167.79 173.38 Well okay, um when we talk about speaker characterization, how are we accessing the list of speakers? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 166.69 167.08 Or no? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 166.68 167.86 What what what wh wh 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 208.77 215.28 So that the who the speakers that are at the meetings and the amount they speak, and then the averages are contained with the speakers. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 197.78 202.95 one that represents the meetings, and the meet and the information about both is contained within each object. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 219.65 227.09 and you can recall they can write the it writes the objects and then you call the objects back and they ha those returned objects have all the information that they need 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 218.12 219.65 And they all they're two different objects 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 202.95 208.77 So and then they wr it writes objects and the objects contain all the information about the meetings and the speakers. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 227.09 231.31 and then you can call methods to return whatever you want. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 183.97 191.86 If someo if you wanna do that, then then tell me how you want the data presented, how the 'cause Do you want me to tell you? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 182.62 183.97 No, not really. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 191.86 197.78 Okay, like, 'cause at the moment, the the the there is I've created two classes, one that represents speakers,
EN2002c H02 MEE071 173.38 174.86 T uh I wanted to talk about that actually. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 174.86 182.62 Um this speaker, um the data processing is fine, but uh we don't particularly want to do the b the the b the GUI for it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 215.28 218.12 So there's two separate class, aren't there. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 231.31 235.32 Or everything, but that's why I wanted to know how ho what's the easiest way to have the data. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 185.22 188.69 Yeah, I w I was thinking about uh I was going that direction anyway. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 183.39 185.22 Okay, I'll do it. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 182.5 183.39 You don't. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 183.87 184.08 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 186.7 186.88 Right. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 190.53 190.99 Yeah, that 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 218.36 218.75 So 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 216.98 218.36 Okay, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 232.37 232.67 I think. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 229.87 231.59 Okay, yeah, I see what you mean. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 231.59 232.37 I think. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 235.2 240.02 So um I uh have you already calculated all this data or are you supposed to do that? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 240.02 240.42 Oh right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 235.84 236.08 Hmm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 241.99 245.93 Um and all stored as objects, so dot object files. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 254.63 257.33 And then or just call them one at a time to populate window. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 245.93 253.89 Um which means that you just ret call constructor and call the load thing and call it there and you can create a list of them or a vector of them or whatever you wanna do 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 253.89 254.63 yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 261.49 267.83 'Cause it can come back as a almost anything. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 267.83 269.61 What's easiest to display on the screen. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 238.91 241.99 Yeah, supposedly all calculated, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 257.33 261.49 But that's what I wanted to how y how what format do you want the data to come back in. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 241.42 241.62 Okay. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 244.88 245.35 Alright. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 245.2 245.53 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 253.63 253.88 Okay. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 264.56 267.37 Uh what should it come back as? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 264.61 264.89 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 288.49 289.44 Whatever. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 273.29 277.98 I mean so that things are all modular, I mean it would be a good idea if we used that same idea for anything else we do. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 283.42 288.49 I mean search results, if they're all in a predictable thing with a name, certain properties or a list of properties, a vector. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 268.08 269.79 Actually, I know, that might also help. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 279.54 283.42 Um actually even the searches or whatever, you know, just any sort of thing. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 277.98 279.54 Or what else are we doing? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 289.44 289.83 Um 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 269.79 273.29 Like when he was talking about like have an architecture that things are gonna plug into,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 269.13 269.72 Numbers. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 273.14 273.48 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 280.2 280.81 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 282.39 283.28 Yeah, ca you could 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 286.72 288.02 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 342.4 343.12 Okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 326.89 329.77 It will say vector this cou I don't know, whatever. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 288.02 289.2 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 323.75 326.89 Uh just a string is noise w X. percent. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 290.41 291.02 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 309.13 316.95 So and then it's got inside it's got a link for it's got a it's got the n speaker's name, and then it's got their percentage for that thing. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 291.02 305.76 So um so I can have it so that it returns you a 'cause at the moment the main data structures are hash tables for the meetings that say it's got one that says percent it's called percent talk. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 316.95 323.75 So it can either come back as a you can have the hash table or you can have it returned as a vector, and it will say noise. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 289.2 290.41 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 305.76 308.6 One's percent noise and one is percent participation. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 308.6 309.13 Do you see what I mean? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 338.1 342.4 What the what the easiest thing dec how how you wanna display it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 329.77 338.1 W you can either have it th you could either have it you could i have it like an embedded in vector or array of strings and each one represents one person or whatever. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 316.24 316.95 Oh, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 337.45 338.49 Mm right. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 338.62 343.07 Um whatever you give me I can do it, I think. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 343.07 344 I mean um 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 340.53 343.42 H um yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 343.42 343.78 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 343.78 347.88 Just a matter of deciding what we what would be easiest, all the way around I mean. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 345.43 346.06 Um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 346.4 347.95 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 347.95 348.37 Exactly. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 348.63 357.1 Um so what will whenever we open a window for one speaker um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 355.18 355.48 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 359.62 363.17 See that's the ca How did we Can I have a look at that again? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 383.61 384.76 Some are quite amusing actually. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 365.17 366.22 Okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 389.41 391.37 Just spend too much time talking to Brits. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 384.76 389.41 The uh the influences of I lived in Germany for six months, don't know if that had any effect. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 403.36 404.28 I don't think that'll be difficult. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 391.37 393.81 That was bizarre thing. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 393.81 398.76 ,9 where did these people come from. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 381.91 383.61 Yeah, that's that's easy. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 370.82 377.1 It's speaker speaker is the uh controlling thing, not yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 377.1 377.68 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 377.68 381.91 So all of this uh all that's calculated as well, stored as speaker objects. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 398.76 401.67 So then the all that's calculated as well. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 366.22 370.82 S If it's in that format, it's speaker. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 401.67 403.36 All I have to do is get the dialogue acts. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 368.52 369.35 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 369.35 370.78 Sh pretty much, I would have thought. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 374.37 375.04 Yep. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 375.04 375.6 Definitely. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 373.36 374.37 Yep. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 381.46 381.9 Oh is it? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 388.99 391.8 Oh. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 394.58 394.99 Strange. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 391.8 392.78 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 392.78 394.58 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 404.9 405.1 Right. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 406.41 406.92 Um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 417.34 419.73 Is it populated by the one present or the one highlighted? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 414.34 417.34 So then does this how does is how is this box populated? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 421.22 423.47 Um the one present. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 423.47 427.47 Although we could do th mm we could do the one highlighted I suppose. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 422.37 423.39 The one present, okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 424.53 424.89 Hmm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 440.62 444.74 so that w could call that would call that and call the meetings method that said return that,
EN2002c H02 MEE071 435.46 440.62 So that's and it says like get get talk time, and you and y it takes a name 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 448.23 450.43 Um and the same for that, comes out there. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 444.74 448.23 and that would populate that, which should be an easy thing to do. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 429.5 435.46 'Cause at the moment I'm using there is there are methods that say um for the using, for other talks. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 429.63 429.72 Hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 441.29 441.6 Mm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 444.82 445.16 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 447.06 447.39 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 470.31 471.63 So do you wanna do that then? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 453.99 458.89 that you wanna see, per topic you wanna see which one spoken most, something like that. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 464.2 470.31 And um and it would come up with how much they spoke and you can pick the one that s looks the most interesting. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 458.89 464.2 So you could you could zap through these topics uh meetings, sorry. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 449.63 453.99 I mean that would um that would be um implementing what you said,
EN2002c H02 MEE071 463.52 463.9 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 461.99 463.52 Meetings. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 468.34 468.99 Yep. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 468.99 470.44 Yeah yeah, that would be easy as well, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 470.85 471.1 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 472.39 477.77 So I'll w I'll just leave in lots of methods that st that'll just return one number at a time. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 480.3 482 Okay, yeah, that's fine. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 471.99 472.39 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 477.77 480.3 That'll be the easiest way to do, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 478.43 479.36 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 477.15 478.43 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 479.36 480.04 Yeah, definitely. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 486.4 486.74 Or 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 481.66 486.4 So yeah, random things like just like return talking time. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 485.65 487 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 487 489.48 Get talk time I think it's called at the moment, something like that, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 489.73 490.05 Good. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 488.68 489.73 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 491.78 492.43 Yeah, I mean 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 499.65 500.04 Okay, right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 498.5 499.65 Okay, I see. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 497.57 498.5 Oh, I see. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 492.24 497.23 So each time are you going straight to the X. M. L. files for for the information or right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 497.23 497.57 Oh well. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 506.71 509.93 And then it's just each method object's got a return bunch of return methods. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 511.16 513.05 It's got a load method. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 520.52 523.55 And then um if you call a null constructor 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 497.13 501.4 It processes a whole lot off-line and stores it as an object, and then they're much much smaller. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 528.04 528.79 Go through a list. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 509.93 511.16 You have to g re-create the object. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 523.55 528.04 then you pr call load and you can call load and whatever one or all of them or anything like that. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 501.4 505.61 They're only like a one um one thou one K. . 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 513.05 517.69 So what you do is you call a null constructor, 'cause if you call the th proper constructor for each meeting 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 517.69 520.52 it goes off and does all the processing and stores own object. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 495.71 497.13 No, it's stored as an object file. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 505.61 506.71 Yeah, it's all pre-processed. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 508.13 509.1 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 512.27 513.09 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 510.55 512.27 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 504.22 506.63 So it's all just pre-processed and just okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 506.63 508.13 Thanks. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 502.58 504.22 Right, okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 509.1 510.55 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 513.09 513.45 That's cool. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 519.59 520.44 Yeah, right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 526.49 528.11 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 528.11 531.16 Is this is it for the entire corpus? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 531.16 534.76 Or is it just like individual ones, like t one fi one object for okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 534.76 535.4 That's nice. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 536.86 537.04 Alright. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 535.4 536.86 Oh, each meeting, okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 531.32 531.46 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 533.97 536.33 One object for each meeting. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 536.33 536.83 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 536.83 538.12 Although yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 538.12 539.41 Although you c 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 541.32 543.24 Well, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 543.24 543.55 No. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 543.85 544.32 Just 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 543.55 543.85 No no. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 539.19 541.32 Wonder if that would be useful for some of the other stuff we're doing. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 545.61 551.44 At the moment it tells you who participated and the amount they participated in percentages, and in time as well. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 543.24 543.55 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 543.55 545.61 It's just tell it tells you who participated. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 548.71 549.11 Right, okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 550.49 550.84 Okay. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 551.28 554.76 Can you put in there what topic was spoken about as well? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 554.76 558.29 Then I could use that for the for the topic pop up window. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 553.91 555.74 Yeah yeah, that'll be pro that'd be easy, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 555.02 555.25 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 558.45 558.72 Alright. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 559.03 560.71 Yeah, if that won't be too difficult. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 560.71 564.35 But that would be that would cause a problem with anything that wasn't annotated for topics. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 560.75 561.13 That'd be r 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 565.41 566.07 That wasn't what? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 566.09 570.22 Or just return a null or a blank or a blank string or something, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 570.22 571.09 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 577.1 577.36 But 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 567.52 567.95 Oh yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 573.73 577.1 The um a lot of people don't get their own ch and other stuff. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 567.95 571.41 No, topic specified, yeah have a default, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 571.41 573.73 There are some there are some default actually. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 571.47 571.71 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 574.34 574.58 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 575.92 576.14 Alright. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 576.65 577.3 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 577.3 580.78 Because at the moment if you right-click on a topic window on one of the topics 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 587.47 588.1 So 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 580.78 587.47 you have the option of pop popping open a window which gives you a list of all the meetings containing that topic. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 586.84 587.19 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 595.79 602.1 they can load each o all of the whole lot up and do a search of the whole lot to find who by who and what problem or what topics were in what. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 590.29 593.46 And then you could do a search over the meetings over the objects. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 593.46 595.79 'Cause that's the thing, these these are so small 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 589.24 590.29 Y oh yeah, that wouldn't be a problem. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 588.62 589.02 Okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 589.02 589.24 Right. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 602.1 603.21 So it doesn't crash the thing. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 598.8 599.04 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 600.36 601.47 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 602.08 602.58 It's a good idea. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 599.48 600.36 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 601.47 602.08 Okay. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 600.57 600.83 Yep. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 606.22 610.42 Would you do the summarisation as you populate it? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 610.42 612.59 You know, just yeah, for the global 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 603.66 606.22 So how how would you d how would you calculate that? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 610.27 613.53 What the global statistics come straight off of that, don't they. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 613.53 615.62 'Cause they're just for the meter met th the 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 615.53 620.05 Oh right, so oh, so that that is all sta stored together. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 620.05 621.72 Oh right, okay. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 621.72 622.1 Okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 618.22 622.25 The speaker class knows about all of that stuff, and the meeting class knows about that stuff. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 625.65 626.09 Um 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 627.08 630.54 So have you done these yet, the no. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 630.54 632.76 Mm just gotta decide on what we wanna 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 625.67 627.08 Sounds good. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 628.58 630.16 No no, but I don't think that'll be too difficult. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 635.28 638.05 I thought the other stuff was more important anyway, so I did that first. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 632.89 635.28 What we want, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 639.48 645.94 So it's all all usable now, can I do it tonight? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 638 639.48 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 635.27 638 Um Yeah, definitely. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 638.33 638.61 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 652.72 653.98 And I haven't quite finished it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 653.98 654.3 So 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 648.38 652.72 it the object's serial numbers change and you can't re-load the object, so all the processing has to be done over again. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 642.79 648.38 Mm no, design the GUI first, and uh 'cause it it w the problem is if you change the classes,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 645.51 646.94 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 655.42 655.69 Hmm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 656.05 659.49 It would become out of synch and get a bit funny. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 667.87 672.93 And you'd have to and then you'd have a v multiple copies of objects all over the place and it'd get silly, I think. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 659.49 662.89 If I gave you one if I gave you it one and you worked on it,
EN2002c H02 MEE071 662.89 667.87 and then I changed it and run the thing again, you wouldn't ever be able to load the objects back up. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 665.01 665.14 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 666.67 667.22 Oh, I see. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 667.22 667.36 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 673.08 676.48 Well, let me know when when it's sort of usable. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 676.48 677.1 Or at least 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 672.25 673.08 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 685.69 688.6 'Cause that doesn't Okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 684.59 685.69 The text box. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 676.37 682.65 But if you can if you wanna make the picture c you can do that without anything, I'm presuming. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 682.65 684.59 Ju just the That, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 681.38 682.32 What do you mean, a picture? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 686.07 687.83 I mean it's m yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 682.32 686.07 Do you mean just the yeah, but it's not gonna take very long. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 684.52 684.74 'Kay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 691.1 694.2 Well it won't take very long to get it all finished. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 694.2 697.66 But I think I'll need to have done all of this stuff too first. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 690.74 691.1 Alright. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 697.66 699.24 'Cause otherwise the objects won't be the same. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 697.18 697.47 Mm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 699.88 700.11 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 700.09 700.39 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 704.52 706.95 Is that stored in the uh 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 702.72 703.86 Sounds good. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 703.86 704.52 So where is that? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 706.56 707.93 No, it's on my home directory. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 708.98 711.35 On your home directory, not in the okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 710.77 712.12 No, I haven't global yet. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 710.15 710.77 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 712.12 714.34 When it's finished up global, otherwise it would get confusing. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 711.52 711.69 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 713.06 713.22 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 714.3 714.84 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 722.4 725.66 So it's two lines of code. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 714.84 719.09 Actually I can up-load my stuff as well, I just have to make one change to your file. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 719.09 722.4 Just to load this one instead of the the default. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 725.66 726.01 So 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 714.68 715.2 Sounds good. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 721.91 722.25 Alright. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 732.06 733.2 If you wanna change my code. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 725.63 732.06 Well, are you wanting to write that in directly or what what do you wanna do with that? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 725.14 725.63 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 730.7 731.63 Um what do you mean? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 733.36 736.98 Well yeah, just the one thing that's like the action for loading up the search thing. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 740.28 741.21 Or yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 735.52 740.28 You're yeah, but are you do you wanna change that m the original M. browser file then? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 740.58 741.14 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 744.27 746.93 I did in my directory, just uh just do that, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 741.14 743.11 Well your version, yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 743.92 744.27 No. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 743.11 743.92 Yes. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 743.56 743.98 Or 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 742.88 743.56 Have you done that now? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 745.68 748.31 Oh, okay, so not the actual one but a copy of it. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 759.06 759.31 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 752.45 759.06 But I will yeah, I was going to update that one just 'cause yeah, it just makes sense that then you then you can test out yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 748.76 751.76 Um I have a copy, yes. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 751.76 752.45 I'm yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 751.46 752.69 Okay, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 752.69 753.11 No, I just 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 756.9 758.18 Well just just tell me when 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 758.18 766.25 because I usually I usually work on my own copy for for the day and then update it without checking if th if the one in the one in the shared one has changed. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 766.25 767.83 So Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 761.14 763 Right, yeah, and then update. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 763 763.1 Yep. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 767.44 769.02 So yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 769.02 771.02 Um yeah, I'll just make that one and I'll let you know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 764.98 765.47 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 765.47 767.44 Yeah, I haven't I haven't made any changes to it yet. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 772.08 772.83 Yeah, let me know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 775.97 781.32 So, anyways um and then you can play. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 782.33 786.25 But Have to get better results, like better presented. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 773.11 775.97 'Cause yeah, like I say, two lines of code, if that. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 781.32 782.33 There's not much to do yet. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 775.24 775.5 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 778.13 778.4 Cool. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 785.79 789.92 So is that what you're working on now then, to in to rip to present the results nice overall? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 795.43 801.15 So um yeah, that's pr Well, also yeah, like that, that as well. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 808.74 813.04 So It goes in and highlights, 'cause that's I know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 789.38 795.43 Yeah, and just um to wire in the the topics and uh summaries. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 802.97 808.74 just wanna find out what kind of objects those were that um for the other ones. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 788.18 789.38 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 802.11 802.97 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 801.15 802.11 So yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 798.93 799.2 Or 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 797.26 798.93 You mean the hi highlighting stuff? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 828.47 834.07 They've got like user highlights, um selection highlights, time highlights and 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 813.52 822.92 Actually for um um for an N. text area, whatever it is, um they they defined some ha handy highlights on that. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 811.59 813.52 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 822.92 824.43 So you've got different different highlights. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 824.43 828.47 You've got just look at the the what they wrote about it. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 817.73 817.93 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 823.26 823.59 Oh yeah? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 835.64 836.48 something else. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 845.5 846.15 Something like that. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 838.66 845.5 So you can quite easily if your text area is called area, you just do area dot set highlights or something, you know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 845.21 845.69 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 847.8 848.17 Right. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 849.03 854.17 That's the way I did it to to highlight, to cross-highlight between topic and then transcripts. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 850.62 850.95 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 855.93 856.81 Okay, sounds good. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 856.47 856.85 Sorta thing. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 868.2 871.7 Like I'm just wondering, have you had to well the way you're doi I was gonna ask if the way you were doing it,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 875.88 882.89 So you don't need to just uh 'cause if we're if we do have t like if the inverted search says that there's, you know,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 882.89 890.01 ten documents, are we gonna have to load each of these ten corp corpora just to um do the individual next uh N. X. T. search? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 871.7 875.88 you were loading like a new corpus each time for each meeting, but you're doing the objects. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 865.48 868.2 um then that's gonna be kind of fun. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 858.92 865.48 Um so yeah, just a few more things to do with that and then uh once Pernilla gets the uh the index 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 918.01 918.84 Otherwise it goes oh no. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 903.05 905.83 But it can't do them it can't do them if it thinks one 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 900.63 903.05 it can do that fine. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 918.84 925.82 It talks to me, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 925.82 933.26 Say nice machine, it goes 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 905.83 911.42 'cause then it's about the amount that each if you you have to kinda call a new class and then it will do it fine,
EN2002c H02 MEE071 911.42 918.01 but if you don't then it won't l Yeah, it says okay, oh yeah, I've got all this space, you can use some. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 894.44 900.63 It it's a bit dumb, if you can fool it, if you c if you c load up ten different si engines simultaneously 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 890.41 894.44 That way it doesn't crash if you try and load all ten in one it crashes, doesn't it. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 893.8 895.33 Yeah, I think probably, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 903.73 904.06 That's a 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 901.5 903.73 Are you serious? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 902.39 904.31 Really? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 904.31 904.76 Really? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 908.6 912.94 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 914.08 914.85 'Kay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 912.94 914.08 That's insane. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 921.96 927.83 Does it talk to you now, does it? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 939.49 942.39 The windows are all there now after lots of fiddling. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 937.64 939.49 So I can feel that in now. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 927.83 929.12 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 911.33 914.66 Oh yeah, allocates more dat more room or whatever. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 929.12 931.9 Spent too much time in front of it, I think. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 931.9 932.87 Mm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 914.66 921.96 More memory. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 932.87 937.64 Right, well I've been uh I've been doing some random pop-up windows for the speaker characterisation, which is good. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 920.49 920.94 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 917.38 920.49 Right, okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 937.95 938.98 Oh yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 938.98 939.25 Okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 943.51 944.24 Okay, cool. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 942.76 943.51 Oh, they're done, are they? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 976.25 983.98 And I have uh a question about the we said we wanted a start screen. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 983.98 986.86 What kind of start screen do we want? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 986.86 999.1 I mean do we want some general blurb about welcome to the browser or something? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 958.52 976.25 because there's there might be ten speakers that all have to have different mee windows and Um and I'm working on when you click on a topic to see a list of the of the topics of of of the meetings that that topic was mentioned in. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 948.3 958.52 Because um it it m basically has to set up um like whatever ten pop-up windows in memory, as in already initialize them 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 999.1 1001.94 Some animation dancing on. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 944.47 948.3 Well, you know, just the pop uh pop-up window was difficult enough. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 946.45 946.93 They pop up. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 946.93 947.53 Uh yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 960.59 962 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 962 962.33 Oh. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 975 975.35 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 982.53 982.84 Hmm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 990.83 994.38 Welcome to the L. S. N. L. S. D. browser. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1000.82 1001.07 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1001.07 1001.49 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 994.38 1000.82 Some some some speech and some music, some drum rolls. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1001.49 1007.33 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1001.54 1005.9 Just we have to yeah, while we're debugging we'll probably be getting sick of it. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 999.59 1001.54 It doesn't take too long, no. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 991.12 997.25 Or just or is it more like right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1009.87 1010.11 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 997.25 999.59 Oh right, yeah, exactly. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1005.9 1009.87 Um but no, or something that just sort of guides them to the most obvious things. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1009.3 1010.16 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1010.16 1018.19 So do we want yeah, maybe we could write an on like the whatever it's called, the the top of the window saying welcome to the meeting browser. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1018.66 1018.9 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1017.6 1018.66 Hmm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1023.81 1027.17 Load me a meeting, load me a search, load me something else. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1027.17 1027.97 Whistle a tune. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1018.48 1019.25 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1019.25 1023.81 Or a switch-board that comes up that's just a blank form like that with some buttons on. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1023.06 1023.31 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1026.29 1026.58 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1030.36 1035.96 M I mean at the moment the way it is it's uh it's a drop down menu, as you've seen 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1028.24 1030.36 Yeah, but how? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1035.96 1043.8 um with all the and that because it's it's the dialogue class that you use there. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1034.4 1035.44 Yeah, right. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1035.08 1035.53 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1037.83 1039.49 Mm should mm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1049.05 1052.39 I guess if they're doing a search on the entire, yeah, corpus. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1045.15 1049.05 I was just gonna ask if we should assume that they all wanna load a meeting first, but not necessarily. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1044.59 1045.15 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1051.97 1058.14 I mean I think they should have two options, either load up a meeting that they choose or do a search. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1058.14 1061.46 And through that, once you've got the results, you click on something and that loads up the first 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1051.45 1051.97 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1057.65 1058.92 Yeah, that kinda makes sense. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1057.94 1059.45 Hmm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1059.45 1061.73 I that's cheaper than X. T. search. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1061.73 1065.36 It would need you to have a meeting loaded before it will start doing any searching at all, doesn't it? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1064.86 1065.55 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1065.55 1067.92 Well we can put the logic in a, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1066.41 1066.81 Does it? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1065.24 1066.41 Oh. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1066.81 1067.26 Oh. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1067.74 1072.96 You can't the the only thing you can search is a NITE object model, and the only time you get one of those if you've loaded an observation. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1068.46 1069.86 Oh ju just bec mm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1072.7 1077.14 I could probably even that s shouldn't be too hard to put a check in there. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1077.14 1078.84 And if it hasn't loaded then force him to load one. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1073.59 1074.48 Oh. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1079.42 1089.22 which we but doesn't that way c you cou you could use the inverted file search to return a list of of meetings and then use one of those to load a search. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1079.16 1079.42 Yeah 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1089.22 1090.64 But you won't 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1088 1088.29 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1090.93 1093.56 Can you not get this nom object um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1100.8 1106.75 The engine there's only one there's only one search method to the search engine. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1093.68 1097.43 It has to be an observation, and even if you go and se you can go and search the whole corpus from that 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1106.75 1108.86 Uh the engine class only has one search method. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1097.43 1100.8 but you have to have it has to start with something for some bizarre reason. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1102.48 1102.73 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1105.57 1105.83 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1104.85 1105.57 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1112.39 1115.97 because we don't wanna search um locally, we wanna search globally. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1115.97 1117.99 So d so let's say 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1108.08 1112.39 I suppose we wouldn't wanna use yeah, we yeah, we wouldn't wanna use N. X. T. at the beginning anyway,
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1114.83 1115.96 Yeah, yeah, globally, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1119.38 1120.83 Well yeah, it's hard to 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1117.23 1119.38 Unless they know what meeting it is. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1119.48 1119.74 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1120.36 1123.9 Well no, then they would open the meeting first, right? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1123.9 1130.79 So let's say they have two options, either pick one meeting or search globally to find a meeting that they like. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1122.75 1123.02 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1122.76 1123.01 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1131.17 1131.47 Yep. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1135.46 1141.27 Or well the things they may n just be looking for a word or whate you know, like and if it shows up ten different meetings 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1135.08 1135.46 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1148.68 1149.78 I mean then they have to go through the 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1141.27 1148.68 then at that point they'll probably wanna like we do we want to like if it dumped by default goes with the first one and they want number five of the ones that are returned 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1143.34 1143.64 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1149.8 1151.06 No, but why do we want default? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1151.06 1152.22 I mean just you know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1151.84 1154.31 Well no, t like to load up Like the thing is that I think 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1174.56 1178.35 I mean before you do a search at all on this. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1155.8 1160.03 Uh like when it loads up it'll load up the transcript window and the, whatever, other window. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1178.76 1179.53 Okay, right, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1178.35 1178.76 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1162.06 1168.26 Um Although the time is probably more um caused by loading the actual data. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1168.26 1174.56 So I'm just thinking if it's kinda like you were saying, you have to have a nom object, right? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1179.53 1180.07 That's true, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1160.03 1162.06 Right now I think just the topic ones. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1178.66 1181.49 We can't do global search without anything. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1181.49 1182.01 Pretty much. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1177.1 1178.66 Yeah, but local search. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1182.93 1184.86 You can load a dumb one up that doesn't have any 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1181.31 1182.93 It doesn't take long to load up anyway. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1184.53 1188.25 Yeah, but the okay, the global one feeds into the local. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1188.25 1193.18 Um so if we're getting any usable data it's it's gonna be doing a search on each of those files. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1193.18 1196.64 So it's gonna be loading up each of those one at a time to get the data that we wanna 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1189.03 1190.72 Yeah, I mean the local 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1194.39 1195.72 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1195.72 1203.92 But yeah, the the global um inverted file search gives the nom objects basically to the local search, right? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1203.72 1204.33 Exactly, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1204.28 1204.7 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1204.7 1208.96 But it's it could be time consuming, like if there are ten documents that hit with this thing, then 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1207.72 1209.79 Well yeah, th that's always gonna be the case with search. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1210.3 1210.92 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1210.92 1212.55 But only gives one at a time anyway, doesn't it? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1212.55 1213.88 'Cause otherwise you'll crash the thing. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1210.59 1210.75 Oh. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1230.43 1235.39 if uh if it's trying to show us where those were, if it's trying to highlight those in the text, transcript or whatever. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1214.24 1217.43 Um yeah, well I'm j just thinking of some way we could, you know 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1223.17 1230.43 But the thing is I mean if we've got that, then it's gonna be needing really really to load the entire corpus for that meeting,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1217.43 1223.17 st cash the results and in a nice little format that'll make things a bit easier. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1252.72 1253.38 Okay, right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1237.75 1240.48 So each time when we have a she search window and we have like, you know,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1235.39 1237.75 And we're gonna have to have all that other data in there. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1243.07 1246.88 go to meeting one, then it has to reload the nom object. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1246.88 1248.36 Next one. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1248.36 1252.72 I mean that's gonna that could be yeah? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1240.48 1243.07 ten different meetings, you know, with the word wireless comes up,
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1249.92 1251.39 It's not too slow though, that thing. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1251.39 1253.28 It shouldn't it's not it's not too bad on that. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1249.53 1249.92 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1253.28 1255.23 I don't think that will be a much of a problem. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1263.92 1269.75 But So um so just sorta based on that as a yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1255.39 1260.76 It always seems to be slow loading up the first time at least, like that's all I I've been doing lately is just sort of loading it up,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1269.75 1274.64 But uh if it doesn't take that long each time, then that should be f alright. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1260.76 1263.92 test it, try something else and then shut down, load it up. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1258.66 1259.36 Yeah yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1259.55 1259.93 Mm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1265.13 1265.63 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1296.71 1301.37 And then you can decide well I wanna search on this and this and this meeting, or only on this meeting, or 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1285.25 1292.36 as in they're not even the meetings but the name of the meetings, so you know, say you wanna search for the word language 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1282.57 1285.25 first as a first step, and you return the meetings,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1292.36 1296.71 then it gives you as a result all the meetings that contain the word language. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1275.54 1282.57 I mean you can uh you know, the option is to do a search in the way that you d if you do a global search,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1281.36 1281.6 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1287.41 1287.74 Yeah, right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1286.26 1287.41 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1295.78 1296.22 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1298.93 1299.73 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1299.73 1300.06 That's true. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1302.14 1302.71 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1308.17 1309.21 When it needs to be loaded. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1302.71 1308.17 Ma make it strings for as long as possible, and then only return the things when they actually needs to has to search. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1302.15 1302.84 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1302.84 1303.13 That 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1305.34 1305.68 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1318.8 1321.8 So yeah, or they could check mark against the ones they wanna check. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1310.6 1314.06 And that way if they know specifically which meaning it is then that'll save the time. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1308.24 1310.6 Yeah, that makes sense. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1314.06 1318.8 Because I'm sure they don't wanna have the extra loading time either if they could avoid it. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1321.8 1322.1 So 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1312.68 1313.05 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1313.99 1314.28 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1317.16 1317.54 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1318.46 1319.17 Definitely, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1319.11 1319.31 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1322.45 1324.71 Did we think about um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1326.81 1328.24 better names for the meetings? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1331.08 1338.38 We can probably do that ourselves and just sort of B. D. B., you know, just do a a string. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1329.88 1331.08 Well I think they were in the text. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1345.02 1351.59 Even w one of them is yeah, one of them is even even better understanding or something. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1353.28 1355.4 I love that. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1334.84 1345.02 There is um yeah, in the in in one of the papers they have m um names, such as um better understanding or whatever. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1352.96 1353.28 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1351.59 1352.96 I I love that. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1342.78 1344.41 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1340.88 1342.78 Yeah, the long names. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1346.49 1347.67 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1344.41 1346.49 Like the the working group that it's part of. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1347.67 1349.02 That probably even might have a. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1341.97 1343.54 Oh do they do they re-translate them? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1346.66 1347.93 Okay, well that's alright then. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1347.93 1348.75 We'll just use that then. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1346.07 1346.66 Do they? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1350.52 1351.27 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1353.32 1358.52 I wanna see the meetings about even better understanding. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1350.77 1353.05 Well that's what's the that's the working group, is it? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1353.05 1353.32 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1353.09 1353.94 Yeah, right. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1357.34 1359.23 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1359.23 1359.48 Yep. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1359.99 1361.07 See if it's accurate. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1361.3 1363.76 So I've yeah, I've put that in already to 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1364.33 1365.56 Okay, that's cool, that's good. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1365.13 1365.62 Sort of. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1367.97 1373.61 So yeah, again concretely to the start-up start-up um libraries window. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1376.16 1376.64 Um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1380.33 1383.14 So who would the the um I. D. F. s? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1385.21 1387.64 The document frequencies for each word in the corpus. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1383.14 1385.21 I mean the D. F. s. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1386.87 1387.99 Well, can I 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1387.12 1390.19 Um do we actually need the uh the frequencies? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1390.58 1393.44 Yeah, to do um what Steve's talking about you do. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1393.44 1395.09 To do the topic labelling. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1392.95 1393.15 Yeah? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1394.8 1395.54 Oh right, that. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1395.74 1396.34 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1396.34 1396.58 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1395.54 1395.74 Right. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1397.48 1400.9 I mean do you think you would have have time for that as well? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1396.54 1397.48 Yeah, how is that? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1401.6 1404.36 Well thing is if it's being done, there were there was 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1402.43 1407.9 If somebody's done the keywords or the the g I. D. F. s or the D. F. s already would. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1407.55 1410.96 There's a @'s trying to get uh to work on Friday. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1417.29 1422.05 Um but it had sort of all that standard sort of stuff, but it w it last I heard it wasn't working. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1410.96 1417.29 Um they did have all that and it was sorta built in and just uh had some trouble getting it running properly. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1406.51 1407.55 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1428.25 1431.25 But if we need the if we do need the frequencies, then 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1422.05 1428.25 So She was gonna look at, you know, more straight-forward sorta thing that really just fulfils what we need it to do. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1430.73 1433.04 Can't you do any better for our search without the T. F. I. D. F. ? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1433.68 1434.67 Um I don't know. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1440.32 1442.73 It's the amount that they occur over documents. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1442.73 1450.3 Basically, the amount they D. F. is the document frequency is the amount that each word occurs um no, what is it? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1450.3 1461.88 Term frequency is the amount that that it occurs in ea one of them is the amount it occurs in each document and the other one is the amount it g occurs generally. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1435.03 1440.32 I think you need to. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1461.88 1469.38 So if you so the more it occurs in specific documents, compared compared to its general score, the bet more informative it is about a certain 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1437.84 1440.54 Um well it was would've been like a list of 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1438.3 1440.3 Wha what does T. F. I. D. F. stand for? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1443.89 1444.52 What's it stand for? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1446.36 1446.47 Hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1463.14 1463.5 Okay. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1462.39 1463.14 Oh. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1465.28 1465.68 Mm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1465.33 1466.83 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1466.83 1467.11 Ah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1474.26 1475.43 Okay. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1476.21 1479.31 Well, you know, you can you might have some general frequencies. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1468.83 1474.26 So the general score, would that be a um for the whole of the language or the for all the whole of the corpus? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1475.43 1476.21 Okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1477.17 1477.75 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1477.75 1479.37 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1479.37 1485.48 But plus a stop list, so you remove stuff that doesn't ta it like yeah, and then the, which is gonna a a prob basically equal score. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1476.22 1477.17 No. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1473.03 1476.08 The corpus, the corpus, still data. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1476.08 1476.22 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1475.33 1478.25 So yeah, the probably probably term frequency. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1478.25 1481.87 Yeah, so the general one is pr yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1473.53 1475.33 Well the corpus yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1481.52 1482.72 Oh, I see. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1484.69 1484.85 Right. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1485.71 1490.86 So what would the if we had the these fake topics, what what would the what would they look like? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1492.96 1495.07 Just a list of like three words or something. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1490.86 1492.96 A bunch. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1487.43 1488.1 Or a massive 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1492.12 1494.16 That'd probably be easiest thing. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1499.64 1501.87 Yeah, term frequency inverse document frequency. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1495.07 1498.38 Yeah, key-words, three f three, five words. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1489.64 1492.12 Bunch of key-words. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1494.16 1495.07 Key-words. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1498.38 1499.64 In both documents. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1496.32 1499.22 Actually what's the I. in T. F. I. D. F. ? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1499.65 1500.08 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1499.22 1499.65 Really? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1504.29 1508.23 I did do it once, I do have a Java class that does it for something, I don't know whether it'll work with this. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1508.23 1508.48 But 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1506.68 1506.9 Oh yeah? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1517.21 1519.46 'Cause if you just have the segmentation, that's great,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1507.79 1508.92 Alright. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1508.92 1517.21 Because that would be really handy then, we can actually test it on the user, as opposed to just doing it and not using it. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1519.46 1526.12 but we can't we can't compare it to the to the uh hand annotated, you know, the hand segmented tool. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1508.55 1508.83 Alright. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1515.62 1516.01 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1520.32 1520.67 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1524.82 1525.13 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1534.54 1540.48 Instead uh it would just search for key-words when it when they you tell him that with topics, but actually get searching with key-words. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1531.09 1534.54 But you could do key-word search could be topic search, can they can be the same thing. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1527.22 1530.01 also key-words gives you a a whole new type of search. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1526.6 1527.22 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1530.01 1531.09 You do keyword search. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1527.18 1527.37 Uh-huh 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1542.03 1543.15 For each do you see what I mean? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1542.24 1543.66 Hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1543.66 1543.95 Mm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1546.4 1546.82 Hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1548.48 1549.29 Yeah, that would work. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1549.29 1550 That'd be really nice. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1562.22 1571.89 The easy bit is it's probably the easiest to calculate them based upon in their whole occurrences in i in the corpus than it is to calculate them per topic 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1553.41 1562.22 But I suppose even calculating the the w the the what's-its-faces themselves would be too much too long. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1571.89 1576.24 'cause you don't have to integrate as much information. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1573.47 1574.97 Mm, yeah, yeah, definitely. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1574.37 1574.64 Right. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1579.73 1583.59 No, you can do you can do search without T. F. I. D. F., you just can't rank the search. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1584.68 1585.25 Oh yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1585.25 1587.12 Well do we need to? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1590.14 1591.11 For topic with 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1587.12 1590.14 I mean we're just looking oh, for for your s for your stuff I guess, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1585.04 1587.55 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1587.55 1588.66 Well, do we want to? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1588.66 1589.46 Do we want to? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1589.7 1594.94 No no no, but that's what isn't that what the idea was in the first place to rank these rank the results so that 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1587.16 1589.7 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1594.88 1599.09 Sort of, but then the main idea was more like to to speed it up, speed the search up 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1599.09 1603.55 because N. X. T. over the over the whole of the corpus was just not feasible. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1603.55 1604.4 But it would be 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1595.83 1596.22 Um 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1600.62 1600.92 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1604.88 1606 Ranking it won't slow it down. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1602.64 1604.88 Yeah, but that won't slow it down. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1602.82 1603.04 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1607.37 1610.85 No, but the general inverted file. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1610.85 1611.77 Oh, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1614.02 1615.33 That would just be a nice extra. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1611.77 1614.02 Yeah yeah yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1611.07 1616.04 It still uses an inverted file, but it ranks the results by the amount by the higher yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1610.68 1611.07 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1616.04 1618.18 I thought that was part of it, but yeah, okay, it doesn't matter if it's not. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1623.22 1624.64 It's true. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1624.64 1626.31 So what, it's only interim. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1622.09 1623.22 True. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1618.26 1622.09 Yeah, I I wasn't sure if it was or not. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1627.18 1627.46 I know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1619.82 1625.91 I don't think we had that in the the document. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1625.91 1626.49 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1619.36 1619.82 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1626.49 1627.18 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1620.14 1620.61 Um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1622.42 1627.1 No, we did Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1629.77 1633.92 But yeah, I guess uh if you do if if that's not part of it, don't worry about it, it doesn't 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1630 1630.19 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1637.64 1637.84 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1635.04 1636.48 Yeah, b nice to have. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1633.65 1635.04 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1636.48 1637.64 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1633.67 1635.66 Yeah, I mean if you have time. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1641.55 1646.59 it would give you the the meetings, but also how often the w that word occurred in that meeting. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1635.66 1637.98 Do that as well, that'd be really nice, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1637.98 1641.55 'Cause I mean then then it would give you like if you searched for a word,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1648.87 1649.44 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1649.44 1649.98 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1646.59 1648.87 That would be so useful. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1637.5 1637.9 So 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1635.61 1637.5 'Cause I'm only gonna do this if I've got time anyway. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1646.84 1647.26 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1648.13 1652.82 It would that was the whole point was to if you say, this is your top one, this is your bottom. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1647.26 1648.13 Well it'd just give you a rank. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1649.6 1650.13 Well I don't know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1648.18 1649.6 Mm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1653.5 1658.97 But th um the thing is we're just looking for when it happens in a meeting, if they're looking for particular term or something,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1658.97 1663.17 they just wanna know if that term exists there and where does it exist and I wanna see it, you know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1650.13 1653.5 Actually 'cause the thing is I mean typically yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1652.87 1653.37 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1667.21 1667.56 So 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1664.92 1667.21 That T. F. I. D. F. is an informative score, isn't it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1662.34 1662.95 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1662.95 1664.92 But say but it's How how informative? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1662.54 1666.91 Yeah, but it would be useful if you yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1666.91 1671.33 You know, you c if you have a if if you search for language and you return like, you know,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1671.33 1676.54 basically all of the meetings, you wanna see where they actually spoke about it and where they just mentioned it once. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1667.09 1667.27 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1672.35 1672.62 'Kay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1692.8 1694.46 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1681.86 1685.29 It's not a compound noun, it's just two words together. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1685.29 1688.14 Um in f I don't know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1689.24 1692.8 Just something like uh Edinburgh University. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1694.46 1696.75 Well, essentially, I don't know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1698.03 1698.43 You know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1688.14 1689.24 I don't know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1675.71 1681.86 But if it's like a two word term, does the T. F. I. D. F. handle that? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1696.75 1698.03 Or sunny day. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1679.59 1682.3 Depends how you treat your compound nouns. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1680.99 1681.46 Ah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1684.16 1685.25 like what? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1690.68 1691.5 Language and 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1694.12 1698.92 Uh Sunny day, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1700.33 1701.07 Um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1698.92 1700.33 And like an adjective, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1693.08 1694.12 As a compound noun. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1699.64 1700.03 alright. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1696.07 1699.64 No, just like Edinburgh and language. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1703.03 1707.74 in its most simple form it would do a separate rank for each one, each term. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1707.74 1711.63 You could make it more complicated and make it do for th for the yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1707.51 1707.73 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1713.85 1717.39 Because the thing is the thing is that the way we were doing it we were just looking for the words,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1721.93 1725.08 And then then it's just saying were these two words in in any of these documents 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1720.55 1721.93 Well that's way we were thinking about it. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1717.39 1720.55 period, each word in the um in the index. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1712.22 1713.85 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1725.08 1732.38 and then if it was then we go closer and do the the N. X. T. search uh to look for the exact term or the regular expression or whatever. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1709.22 1712.22 Let's not make it more complicated. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1714.13 1715.47 How would you combine them, that's the question. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1713.47 1714.13 Or what? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1711.03 1713.47 And then and then ad add those up or something. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1714.08 1715.23 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1715.23 1717.1 You can just add 'em up, or you can 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1721.33 1722.83 Yeah, you don't wanna start looking for bo 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1720.42 1721.33 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1729.14 1729.85 Um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1728.47 1729.14 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1744.08 1747.74 and the higher the more uh more informative each term is for each thing would give you a 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1732.24 1740.08 I guess you just do a sum of the um of the the individual T. F. I. D. F. for each term returned,
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1740.08 1744.08 and that generally will be a bit crude, but it will give you a d score 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1740.26 1740.53 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1748.27 1748.48 Right. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1749.57 1750.23 a thing. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1750.23 1752.28 It's pretty crude anyway, but it's just looking for um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1764.03 1766.08 But um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1759.08 1761.37 So mm Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1761.37 1762.67 Yeah, yeah, that's true. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1762.67 1764.03 So yeah, that's less crude isn't it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1754.14 1759.08 if it's all it's gonna do is look for six separate c oh, 'cause then it's gonna go into the N. X. T. search and return that, isn't it. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1758.56 1759.14 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1761.7 1762.42 So yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1759.14 1761.7 Or we choose the list of meetings that we wanted to search to do that. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1764.13 1764.54 Um 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1766.17 1769.31 Like I'm just wondering if if it's gonna give us something cool, then yeah, absolutely,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1769.31 1776.52 but if it's sort like if the N. X. T. search has still gotta be run to find these terms or these, you know, these patterns, then uh 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1775.84 1780.53 Yeah, without doing any like um word pairs, which is just omission. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1774.87 1775.84 Groups of terms. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1788.89 1791.92 Not y actually, that's a problem for me too. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1783.33 1788.89 So if you're looking for wireless, wired, wire, blah, blah, blah, you do wire with a star and um no? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1793.24 1793.64 And uh 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1791.92 1793.24 So Or Pernilla. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1779.57 1783.33 Or also like do um wild cards work for something like that? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1788.51 1793.86 Yeah, I don't know how that works. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1802.1 1803.51 I guess it there's lots in the literature. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1813.93 1815.81 Basic information retrieval. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1797.09 1799.4 But then the idea is, that gives you an informative score. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1815.81 1817.29 They've got a big a good chapter on it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1803.51 1809.8 I if s if you were is there's a lo whole load about it in Manning and Schutz. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1819.28 1820.58 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1799.4 1802.1 How you combine that is is up to you. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1818.89 1819.28 ,4 yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1809.8 1813.93 So They've got a whole chunk about it's so just I. R., isn't this. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1817.29 1818.89 If you haven't got it, it's on Cognate. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1793.86 1797.09 That's how I remem Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1796.83 1798.7 Yeah, 'cause 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1804.67 1805.83 Okay, then I'm just yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1805.83 1806.53 Sure that's not too bad. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1803.29 1804.67 Actually it should work, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1810.36 1810.57 Oh yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1814.54 1815.3 Oh yeah? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1815.3 1816.46 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1818.8 1823.42 Yeah, I've got uh somewhere P. D. F. . 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1824.95 1825.81 Me too. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1824.21 1824.95 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1825.81 1828.78 Hundreds of P. D. F. s. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1825.91 1828.76 Yeah, what if it's yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1828.76 1831.63 Do the P. D. F. s, switch it to Postscript, switch it back to P. D. F., and then 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1830.97 1832.43 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1835.8 1836.4 Don't know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1836.4 1838.94 Okay, so that's okay, that might be good. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1841.83 1842.2 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1840.85 1841.83 Alright. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1866.24 1867.81 The users that took part. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1842.87 1850.68 So to come back to the start-up screen I'm I'm I'm I'm very unsure about what that should look like. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1867.81 1871.46 But then that's probably pretty much the same for the same group. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1857.39 1863.39 I mean the u the the longer name obviously, if there is one, 'cause they don't all have a longer name. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1850.68 1857.39 I mean we wanna for the part where you can choose choose the the meeting, what kind of information do you wanna have about the meeting? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1863.39 1866.24 What the users that spoke. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1845.22 1848.19 Oh, I thought we sort of dis you know what I mean. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1845.6 1847.52 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1861.15 1861.36 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1859.16 1861.15 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1868.35 1869.23 Or attended, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1867.65 1868.35 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1872.58 1877.97 P probably for the most part, I mean there'll be a set of people that do, and then a sub-set for each meeting probably. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1874.63 1875.23 Yeah, I'm not sure. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1879.06 1879.42 'Cause 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1876.27 1879.06 Do you want that on the start-up screen, yeah? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1878.75 1884.43 Yeah, just to give them an idea, general idea what there is and so they can pick a a to um a meeting. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1884.05 1887.59 Search for stuff or start working or No. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1887.59 1891.52 Or or browse okay, like search, browse um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1886.87 1887.48 Yeah, I guess so. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1887.48 1888.75 Yeah, yeah, I guess that's useful. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1904.01 1904.32 Um 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1893.49 1895.94 Like if you're looking for something speci like, is that what you're thinking? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1900.13 1904.01 and they just wanna go there and see stuff, then they can immediately go and browse that. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1895.94 1900.13 Like if they if they know exactly where they wanna go, they wanna go to, you know, that meeting on December third,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1900.45 1900.68 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1913.13 1913.58 Look at that. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1902.17 1903.6 Yeah, or w you kn yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1903.6 1911.68 I wanna look at the meeting where so-and-so spoke um of that, you know, sort of some sort of research group. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1911.68 1913.13 I want that first meeting. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1906.84 1907.08 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1911.7 1911.9 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1913.84 1914.08 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1939.05 1939.25 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1917.61 1919.72 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1926.79 1930.86 Like if they're looking for particular person, particular working group, particular whatever 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1923.04 1926.79 Like did no, I'm just thinking of different ways we can do that, like different buttons on the top. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1930.86 1936.71 I mean we just uh we could break things down like that to that level of detail if we want. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1936.71 1939.05 Or we could keep a more general. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1919.72 1923.04 Browse by meeting, browse by blah, browse by speaker. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1925.9 1926.24 Oh. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1925.04 1925.9 Oh. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1943.39 1950.69 Because as soon as they've got loaded their first meeting, y they can they can browse through that quite nicely. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1937.61 1939.44 Mm I don't think we need that, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1939.44 1943.39 Because we we just wanna have a way of of yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1956.27 1959.04 What are the range of things that they'd wanna do? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1959.04 1962.65 Like if they're part of X. working group, they'll wanna get in there. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1962.65 1964.81 Um do we wanna save preferences? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1951.77 1956.27 Um yeah, but I'm just thinking like initially, when they load up. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1958.34 1958.65 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1967.08 1967.61 What do you mean? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1967.86 1972.87 Well, if they're part of B. D. B. working group, they're gonna wanna look at the B. D. B. ones and so we'd default to that. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1972.87 1973.84 Or don't know. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1973.78 1975.09 W how how are we gonna know that? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1980.58 1980.85 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1976.1 1980.58 Based on what they did the last time. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1977.55 1979.83 Have a user model. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1980.7 1982.84 You could have a save preferenc preferences, I guess. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1978.8 1980.7 Uh you can have a save preferences. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1983.15 1983.41 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1984.18 1986.89 But that would defy the whole point of browsing, right? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1986.89 1989.79 If you only wanted to look at like five meetings. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1989.79 1996.84 Well you just you just uh you just scroll down the list and find your favourite one. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 1996.84 2002.95 I mean It's not like they come back every day and do the same browsing. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2002.95 2008.98 Let's see what's changed today. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2008.98 2009.39 Mm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1986.89 1990.05 Mm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1999.1 1999.36 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1994.24 1999.1 Yeah, okay yeah, that's yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1990.05 1992.8 Yeah, okay, right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 1992.8 1994.24 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1993.38 1994.48 You can have a favourites. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1987.95 1993.38 Well alright, call it favourites then. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 1997.22 2001.05 Yeah, it's not enough information, is it, to. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2044.96 2045.29 You know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2035.27 2036.3 then do this, blah blah blah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2015.41 2019.12 Like there is just a range of things we could do, we could have like search options, browse options. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2042.71 2043.83 Oh, p perfect. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2019.12 2024.45 I mean just I don't know, just playing around with ideas. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2005.85 2008.49 I forget. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2024.45 2035.27 Um and then we can tie this into our evaluation uh tasks and say well if you want to search for a meeting or search for a user in a particular meeting,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2004.57 2005.85 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2036.3 2039.68 So we can, yeah, sort of um, you know, guide them. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2045.29 2047.37 I don't know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2008.49 2009.22 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2010.65 2015.41 Well no I'm just getting back to sorta what could be on the the start-up screen. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2043.83 2044.96 You know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2009.22 2010.65 Um okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2002.39 2004.57 What was that? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2039.68 2042.71 And just like hey, my task is to do this and there's a button for it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2015.02 2015.61 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2015.11 2015.65 Yeah, yep. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2036.19 2038.67 Oh right, oh okay. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2040.49 2040.83 Well 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2044.33 2047.85 No, that's Um 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2042.19 2044.33 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2043.69 2046.25 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2048.03 2049.56 Yeah, it would be quite good if it has yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2050.23 2057.57 I w I wasn't gonna put any, you know, any any help in there any sort of a explanation of how the browser works, to be honest. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2057.57 2058.64 I wasn't oh right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2075.98 2076.33 So 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2056.82 2058.84 No no, that's not what I'm suggesting. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2065.58 2074.07 just 'cause they don't want people to have to go through all the menus and search themselves and just like do commonly used tasks or just exit and just let me use the programme,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2074.07 2075.98 you know, as well. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2058.84 2065.58 No, I'm just saying like these are just like a lot of programmes well kind of lame programmes do have that sort of thing first 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2057.19 2060.09 Just a b search buttons, so just 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2070.19 2070.91 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2070.91 2071.39 I see. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2072 2072.33 Mm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2074.56 2075.92 Yeah yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2075.92 2076.57 Doofus mode. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2076.16 2079.37 But I mean the main thing what you wanna do is to view a meeting, right? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2079.92 2082.11 Probably or search something. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2082.11 2082.37 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2089.9 2092.04 And then another that said search that loaded instantly. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2082.57 2084.41 So if even if it just had two things,
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2095.94 2098.56 Yeah yeah, or one that yeah, or one that 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2084.41 2089.9 just said one sai one said take me straight to this meeting and have a m text-box you can enter it, or a drop down menu. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2094.67 2095.94 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2092.04 2094.67 It loaded up the search screen. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2080.96 2082.57 Or search, yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2082.71 2084.31 S and both of those we have and 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2081.52 2082.71 Yeah, or search, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2096.91 2097.05 Mm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2091.37 2094.71 Yeah, like find specific meeting. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2094.71 2096.91 You know, that's an easy sort of thing and. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2101.17 2106.15 Basically, either the user wa knows which meeting he wants to look at and he just clicks on it 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2106.15 2110.23 or he doesn't and then he searches for one that sort of looks like 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2098.21 2101.17 Yeah, that uh all happens for the search basically. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2100.94 2101.19 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2108.71 2109.71 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2109.71 2110.77 Fits his criteria. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2110.13 2112.48 Or the other thing to do is just have search as the default. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2114.82 2117.98 And that's the interface, and you just go from there. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2112.48 2114.82 Just it opens and the search window opens. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2109.61 2110.13 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2118.69 2119.28 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2121.21 2125.16 And then that brings up the browser after you f searched for something. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2146.15 2151.64 It's just all here, and here is just go to wherever and a go button. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2144 2146.15 And so this is your search. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2133.48 2135.71 And so the f so the in yeah 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2155.14 2155.41 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2125.16 2133.48 Or or the search but the search window could have on it something that said just has a drop down menu that says just and a go button that said take me to this. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2135.71 2144 so the f only thing that comes up when you're finished is a um when you start it's just one window like that and it's got all the search stuff like down there. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2151.64 2155.14 And then from there it takes you to wherever else you wanna go. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2132.65 2134.15 Oh, I see what you mean. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2134.15 2135.51 Inside the search menu, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2145.27 2145.65 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2153.27 2154.67 Yeah, that's that's what yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2157.04 2160.48 And the other topic says welcome to welcome to our browser. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2175.77 2176.46 So how d how d 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2162.66 2168.11 Um but I'm I'm unsure about how to how to put all the information in there. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2159.17 2160.96 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2168.11 2175.77 Because we need drop-down menu, but we want all the information about the name, the longer name, and the sp and the users. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2160.96 2162.66 Yeah, that looks about right. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2168.13 2169.63 A drop drop-down menu. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2173.44 2176.56 Oh, you wanna have oh yeah, the users. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2175.77 2177.53 Well we don't actually have user names, do we? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2180.5 2180.71 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2177.53 2180.5 Aren't there all these codes like AMI eleven or whatever. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2178.31 2179.42 They're always nonsense, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2178.63 2185.69 No, but the codes I mean at least maybe if they know the codes and in or the to in or the corpus corpi? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2182.63 2182.98 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2184.38 2185.15 Yeah, that's true. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2186.57 2187.89 We don't want them to type them, do we? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2185.19 2186.57 In a case like that we do want drop-down. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2191.05 2192.4 Drop-down is definitely not 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2189.67 2191.05 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2190.79 2191.29 Yeah, it does. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2195.63 2198.65 Okay, you're just looking for one specific speaker, right? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2193.59 2195.25 Um and allow multiple? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2198.65 2198.8 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2191.8 2193.59 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2195.25 2195.63 No. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2197.33 2202.48 This is good, but if you wanna search a search, if you wanna look for one meeting and just look at it, then that's fine. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2211.65 2214.15 Or and you can choose, you can go go for go or go for the other. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2202.48 2207.21 Um that's that's true, that's or unless you have two. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2207.21 2211.65 One one is one one there where you got two, one for meeting, one to speak. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2214.15 2214.77 Go on go for both. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2214.77 2216.37 If you go for both, you're searching 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2200.84 2202.3 Yep, yep. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2202.3 2202.71 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2202.71 2204.56 But then yeah, as I said, how do you do it? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2201.39 2201.77 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2202.51 2202.78 Alright. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2206.19 2206.77 Um 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2210.52 2211.42 Oh for speakers. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2211.42 2211.46 M 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2227.77 2233.44 And then it gives you the longer name, blah, and then it gives you the, you know, the participants. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2221.19 2227.77 but an extended list of the of the meetings, so you know, you have B. D. R., whatever it was called, O. one. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2215.3 2221.19 No no no, I'm not I'm not saying you can you can pick a user, but you should come up with some list,
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2224.23 2224.62 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2233.69 2240.53 We could do Microsoft stylie and hold it over and it pops up a thing. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2269.94 2274.37 wait for it to pop up, hold your mouse on that one, wait for the pop Um 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2253.17 2259.63 Yeah, I'm not sure what th it is that very is that not annoying if you have to hold your m you know,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2236.37 2238.89 I was thinking that. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2239.59 2241.34 Tool tip. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2249.5 2253.17 I'm very yeah, very keen on that, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2263.86 2269.94 No, but you know, to to search for a u pecif pec specific user, you have to hold your mouse over that one,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2262.73 2263.86 They do that a lot, don't they? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2241.34 2243.16 But then yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2238.89 2239.59 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2259.63 2262.73 you ha you have t yeah, y yes. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2245.56 2246.92 A tool tip, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2243.16 2245.56 Uh no, it's not at all, I think. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2246.92 2249.5 I've not tried that yet, but I was I was gonna do that. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2236.87 2240.67 Oh. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2240.67 2240.98 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2242.02 2243.02 Is that complicated? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2245.81 2246.15 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2244.92 2245.81 A tool tip. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2250.23 2252.59 Actually in this n Oh let's do that then. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2248.83 2250.23 Mouse over, isn't it, or something. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2258.32 2264.09 You get out of the bloody way, I'm trying to do a search the damn thing. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2260.94 2261.16 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2264.19 2264.43 'Cause 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2270.69 2272.51 Yeah, that's true. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2272.51 2272.78 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2276.91 2279.42 And just you just say I wanna look for this user. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2279.42 2280.29 Go. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2280.29 2281.12 Find me. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2293.67 2295.94 It's not the same as doing a a quick access. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2286.98 2291.92 Maybe just leave it, just have them there, and don't worry about the speakers. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2284.71 2286.98 And then you search then but then you didn't search. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2270.76 2273.67 Yeah, that's true, that's annoying. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2291.92 2293.67 If they're doing speakers, they're doing search. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2281.12 2284.71 Find me, then then then it pulls up a list of all the ones who got that user in it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2273.67 2276.91 But that's why you could just have a list of your users then. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2292.46 2292.85 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2294.4 2294.67 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2296.14 2296.46 Mm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2308.07 2309.54 Yeah, maybe that's the best idea then. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2298.82 2302.9 It'd just be nice to have some basic information on on each of the meetings. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2298.16 2298.82 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2302.9 2308.07 Yeah, I'm thinking that that updates depending on what you've got highlighted. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2309.54 2314.87 So you've got a drop-down menu, a search a search button not search, go button. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2301.46 2306.59 Or you can have a f text box there that's got yeah, as you go over them. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2301.16 2301.46 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2306.59 2308.21 Then that doesn't get in your in the way. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2309.3 2309.54 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2307.31 2309.3 That's like nice and easy. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2305.48 2307.31 Yeah, just so yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2317.13 2317.88 And then 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2320 2323.66 Some sort of field which updates dynamically depending on what you've got highlighted. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2324.69 2326.17 The full name and then speakers. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2323.89 2324.69 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2327.1 2327.98 Yeah, that sounds good. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2326.36 2327.1 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2330.13 2332.94 We can do all of that without even ever going anywhere near loading up a 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2328.44 2330.13 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2334.65 2335.05 I think. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2336.35 2336.67 I think. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2337.23 2337.69 Oh cool. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2337.69 2339.29 And uh a thing. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2339.29 2340.25 A meeting, a nom. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2340.25 2342.64 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2343.46 2344.96 What does nom actually stand for? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2339.98 2343.46 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2338.78 2339.98 Nom. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2340.25 2341.41 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2341.41 2341.65 Right. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2345.38 2349.56 I think it's in the right object model, but I'm not sure. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2346.09 2348.15 Just yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2351.46 2352.08 Is that what it is? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2352.08 2354.17 Writable corpus or something. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2354.17 2354.42 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2348.15 2351.46 Just but it's I think in that case it's the wr write corpus? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2346.96 2349.3 NITE, oh yes. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2355.08 2357.96 It's the not right corpus and then you got not right elements in it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2357.96 2361.17 Got not right attributes in 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2351.75 2355.08 No uh yeah, is you're right, it's the right corpus, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2354.35 2355.23 Oh. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2358.92 2359.23 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2357.94 2358.92 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2358.11 2359.71 Oh, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2359.71 2363.58 You've got lots of nom something and then NITE something and then N. something. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2363.58 2365.13 And N. X. T. something and 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2361.91 2363.58 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2363.6 2364.08 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2374.98 2377.73 The A. P. I. is alright, but there's not a lot of description in it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2370.4 2374.98 Uh 'Cause you go back enough and the um the what's its name is not very good. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2379.59 2381.03 It tells you what 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2377.73 2379.59 It's very crude. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2364.08 2370.4 I think the N. ones are interfaces and the NITE one one of the ways round one's an interface and one's actually an implemented class. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2367.58 2368.69 Oh really? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2368.69 2369.01 Oh. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2369.01 2369.82 Oh. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2370.76 2371 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2369.3 2370.76 Oh. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2377.84 2378.23 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2388.98 2391.58 I know it is. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2385.29 2388.36 This is this is uni unintelligible. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2380.62 2385.29 In most of the descriptions are hints to each other saying you've gotta update this, Jonathan. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2378.92 2380.62 No. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2388.36 2388.98 Great. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2395.83 2401.06 It's a implementation of an N. text interface. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2394.8 2395.6 Okay, what's that? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2385.69 2386.33 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2395.6 2395.83 Doh. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2401.69 2411.98 Oh, it's a extended version of a Stop it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2386.33 2390.98 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2383.73 2385.69 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2390.98 2394.8 So you end up just it saying returns an N. text box. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2401.06 2401.69 What's that? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2389.46 2391.11 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2385.42 2388.62 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2388.62 2389.46 Right. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2396.65 2396.92 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2399.16 2400.31 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2400.31 2401.23 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2399.53 2400.51 Area, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2403.96 2406.35 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2410.21 2412.12 Not very fun. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2412.12 2416.19 Right, so anyone else got anything to say? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2406.35 2407.63 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2407.63 2410.21 Yeah, yep definitely. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2406.38 2409.14 Yeah, drove you crazy. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2409.14 2409.8 Oh God. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2413.38 2413.89 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2416.44 2419.21 Um not really, just gonna keep on going. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2421.19 2425.79 Do we yeah, do we want another meeting at the end of the week um with Pernilla? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2426.21 2430.25 Like Friday afternoon or something? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2427.6 2428.69 Might be useful, mightn't it? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2428.6 2430.33 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2430.33 2431.15 Yeah, something like that. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2431.15 2436.12 I mean uh I think I'm gonna do quite a bit of work this week, so I'll have probably more to talk about. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2436.94 2438.09 Yeah, I should have more to talk about. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2441.06 2441.59 Or at all. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2441.59 2442.41 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2438.77 2441.06 Then we won't have to have the meeting with Steve on Tuesday. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2446.28 2448.88 Three or I don't know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2438.08 2438.77 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2442.41 2446.28 So Do we wanna arrange this get this one earlier maybe? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2438.17 2438.98 I think yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2443.4 2443.7 Well 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2448.42 2449.07 If you like. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2449.07 2451.23 Well, we can disc uh discuss that on Friday if we have one. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2449.08 2450.11 Oh, for next week. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2450.98 2451.67 Yeah, that's true. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2453.86 2454.07 True. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2455.87 2456.78 Mm 'kay, yeah, sure. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2456.75 2457.56 What what time? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2455.91 2456.75 Friday? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2458.92 2459.89 Um 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2461.41 2461.93 Um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2461.77 2463.62 No, just after S. P. two. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2465.96 2467.06 Possibly, I don't know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2469.96 2475.96 Um although well, I don't know, 'cause it's the lab and try and get some work done for the the lab stuff. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2467.06 2469.96 Usually by then it's need a break. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2463.98 2465.96 Hmm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2469.73 2470.21 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2470.21 2471.44 I don't mean straight after. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2476.46 2477.42 Yeah, that could be quite good. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2474.6 2476.46 Yeah, for that. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2477.51 2477.82 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2477.55 2480.19 I've got a doctor's appointment at ten to two. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2482.16 2482.98 Ten to two. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2480.6 2482.16 Oh, okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2481.88 2482.78 Um 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2481.36 2481.88 Right. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2484.92 2486.71 Li 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2484.6 2484.92 What? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2484.92 2487.85 Friday morning? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2486.88 2489.4 Or th three o'clock? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2491.87 2493.53 Get away. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2489.4 2491.87 Or no or you wanna get out. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2493.53 2494.36 Okay, right. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2489.4 2489.94 Three o'clock. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2492.15 2494.91 Maybe I do, I'm not sure what I'm doing this weekend. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2491.48 2492.15 I don't know. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2494.91 2495.5 Um 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2503.71 2505.65 Um could go 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2499.98 2503.71 We've all got cla well three of us have class at twelve. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2497.67 2499.98 'Cause I think she's got a class at eleven. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2504.19 2505.44 W how about qui 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2505.17 2508.15 Should we say three o'clock and then if there's a v serious problem, I'll tell you. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2504.53 2505.17 Two. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2511.48 2513.39 Well it wouldn't be a long meeting then. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2510.01 2511.48 Well yea yeah well yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2513.79 2517.07 Would you wanna no, probably not. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2517.07 2519.21 If one's bad for you, then it won't okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2513.39 2513.79 Or no. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2507.76 2508.94 Or if we could try one. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2508.94 2510.01 We could try shortly after. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2510.67 2511.06 I can't. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2523.44 2525.92 Well what how about quite late? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2515.71 2523.44 Um what I oh, no no, that that would only give us like thirty five minutes or something. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2525.92 2527.53 Like you know, five or six. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2522.35 2522.78 Right, okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2524.39 2526.28 It's might not be too we th I don't think we need a probably 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2527.92 2529.04 Three's better than five or six. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2528.55 2529.33 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2531.17 2532.82 Well three o'clock, let's say three o'clock for now. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2541.65 2543.42 But I don't think that won't be I'm not sure. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2536.48 2541.65 then if three o'clock's a problem, five or six will be a problem, 'cause I won't be here. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2532.16 2536.48 three so say three o'clock and then um if there's a problem with that,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2541.57 2541.94 Okay. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2544.14 2545.17 Right. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2545.17 2548.73 I'll write um I'll write this meeting up and I'll send it to Pernilla as well. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2548.87 2549.96 Okay. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2563.27 2564.8 Well I thought somebody was collecting them. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2562.53 2563.27 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2560.03 2562.53 School for the gifted. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2552.15 2555.01 Oh, you're just sending it to No. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2558.98 2560.03 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2564.8 2566.48 But right, well that's what I thought when you said that. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2549.82 2552.15 Is she collecting them? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2555.01 2558.98 I mean, is she collecting oh right, oh yeah, sorry. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2551.44 2553.59 No. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2553.59 2560.31 Because she's not here. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2566.12 2568.34 Yeah, no, we should probably do that at end, depending on 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2560.31 2566.12 I collect meeting summaries. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2554.98 2555.14 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2568.46 2568.73 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2568.98 2572.62 Then we'd know who's missed them or who's if we've done any. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2581.17 2587.09 We've mentioned topic labelling with uh key-words. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2570.21 2575.01 So can we just can we just r repeat briefly what we've spoken about. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2587.09 2591.36 Um we discussed if the search should be ranked. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2591.36 2594.89 And Michael, did you have anything else? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2575.01 2581.17 So we've din done uh progress on the speaker characterisation, who does the speaker characterisation. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2570.42 2571.21 Right. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2578.94 2579.03 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2586.11 2586.37 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2607.98 2609.79 For now. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2598.73 2600.94 But um no, it should be fine. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2609.79 2610.08 'Cause 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2594.69 2598.73 Um there's just sorta the basic implementation stuff that I was wondering about. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2600.94 2603.76 Um it's just progressing. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2606.92 2607.98 No? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2603.76 2606.92 Um we d did we decide whether it should be ranked? 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2604.73 2605.41 And a start-up window. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2608.15 2608.46 No. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2608.48 2614.28 Oh well, basically not not unless you've got time for at the end. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2614.28 2615.48 It would be nice at the end. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2630.91 2635.26 Um I don't know, it just I just don't know if it would bring us that much. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2628.37 2630.91 Like if someone's looking for a particular term. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2613.98 2614.26 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2621.36 2628.37 Just because if it is like independently doing the words for a particular document, it's not it's not really getting them together. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2614.26 2621.36 Well I d I kinda think it would complicate things quite a bit and not bring us a lot. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2637.44 2638.85 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2638.85 2642.36 I think I think it w it would it would give you the most relevant result. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2635.46 2637.44 I think it would. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2636.68 2637.08 How so? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2651.79 2658.11 it just doesn't you're looking for that term and relevance is kind of irrelevant because if the term shows up, it shows up. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2640.93 2645.61 If if if they're looking for, like I say, sunny day and,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2645.61 2649.31 you know, sunny shows up in this document, day shows up, but they're not together. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2649.31 2651.79 Um or if if they are toge I don't know,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2680.69 2682.82 So you wanna distinguish those somehow. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2676.6 2680.69 you know, my language is German or something stupid that you don't really want. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2672.24 2676.6 And then you've got those that just mention, you know, mention it briefly, like once or twice saying,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2664.34 2672.24 you know n some some meetings which have as a topic language, they specifically speak about language, and they use that word like in every sentence. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2658.28 2664.34 No, but for things like if you search for language, then you might have you have some topics which have as a,
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2682.82 2683.79 Or would be nice anyway. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2672.39 2672.58 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2679.33 2679.52 Right. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2684.26 2688.32 Yeah, that would help a lot for that s for single terms it would be very useful. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2688.32 2694.19 For multiple terms, unless you wanna do something there will be a way of doing it for multiple terms. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2684.62 2688.12 In in that sense for single for single word yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2686.95 2687.92 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2697.66 2697.88 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2695 2697.66 Well, create a new yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2693.21 2695 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2696.23 2696.91 I mean 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2693.26 2696.23 Uh for multiple terms we can just do something really simple. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2697.67 2706.31 Or you could do it and override it by the you ca you could just ignore the d ranking if it doesn't show up together. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2697.24 2697.67 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2706.31 2709.75 Or you could perhap you could penalize it, you could just put a b weight against it. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2705.6 2705.87 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2707.57 2709.85 Well, but you still have to do the search. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2718.53 2722.07 Well it wouldn't show up on the search results if it if it didn't exist together. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2722.07 2722.43 So 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2709.85 2712.1 You still have to do the N. X. T. search then, right? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2715.99 2718.53 Oh yeah, yeah, it'll yeah,, yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2712.1 2713.67 If if it doesn't show up. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2713.67 2715.06 Yeah, yeah, I know. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2715.06 2715.99 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2712.07 2714.46 Yeah, you do the N. X. T. so so it doesn't show up together. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2714.46 2716.83 Either disregard it or put a weighting against it. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2716.83 2719.21 So if you g how many pairs you get, you can 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2716.44 2716.84 Yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2724.02 2727.61 Yeah, I mean you'd you'd just do it really simply, you know. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2720.28 2724.02 Yeah, just just just disregard it, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2732.28 2733.33 Can discuss it on Friday. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2727.61 2732.28 You'll have the results as before, but yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2721.31 2723.36 Yeah, so then just next. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2723.36 2723.73 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2724.28 2724.59 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2726.7 2727.58 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2732.25 2738.83 'Cause if we are using that, I mean it does make sense for that, but uh yeah, and just actually yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2738.83 2739.11 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2727.58 2728.13 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2728.13 2732.25 We'll have we'll have to talk to Pernilla about this then, just 'cause uh see how she's uh doing this. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2729.81 2730.98 Yeah, might have to talk to Pernilla about that. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2740.23 2742.17 It doesn't have to be all intelligent. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2743.05 2745.57 Well that's sorta what is yeah, that's true. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2742.49 2743.05 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2748.73 2750.08 something like that would just push it up. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2745.39 2748.73 And if the one that you got just happened to be at the bottom when it was actually the most relevant one 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2742.86 2745.39 'Cause some things you're gonna get a lot of results for. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2745.03 2745.84 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2754.34 2758.52 Um and then we could actually put that like on the list of um meetings that r get returned. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2758.52 2765.14 If there were fifteen meetings with language is in, then it's gonna show you those and rank them as to which is the highest. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2765.14 2766.25 So okay, I see that. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2748.79 2752.47 Well the thing is also I mean if it's well yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2752.47 2754.34 Yeah okay, I see what you mean. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2770.14 2776.4 the um if sunny and day aren't mentioned together a lot but sunny just happens to mentions once 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2764.54 2766.27 Which is the highest, exactly. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2779.42 2780.75 If you just dup add them together. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2766.27 2770.14 And um also with their something like sunny day 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2776.4 2779.42 then its term will be low and it will push down the other one if you combine them. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2762.82 2764.54 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2776.86 2777.02 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2780.4 2783.13 Well the thing is I mean that'll be exactly how we're doing it now,
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2783.13 2786.17 like we're just looking for the two words separately, see if they exist in the same document. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2779.57 2780.4 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2789.07 2791.11 And then we do the N. X. T. search on that document. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2786.17 2789.07 If they do, then there's a possibility that they c occur together. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2790.29 2790.56 Mm. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2791.24 2791.67 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2791.67 2797.38 But you have no ranking system at the moment, so if something's an amazing w highly ranked thing from T. F. I. D. F. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2797.38 2807.98 it could just be ignored because it falls off the bottom of the do you have a assuming you only have you have a return all results for all so you type language and it returns seventy five meetings. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2793.18 2793.73 Yeah, no. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2800.26 2800.58 Hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2813.44 2815.97 Well I thou yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2812.69 2813.44 But yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2808.21 2809.98 Um well right now it's not doing anything. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2817.5 2817.73 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2815.97 2817.5 Yeah, I think so. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2809.98 2812.69 So I don I don't know I don't know what what it's doing. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2816.27 2816.77 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2810.67 2816.27 Yeah, there are already seventy f but there are seventy five meeting. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2817.88 2818.21 Ooh. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2816.71 2817.88 Wow. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2811.42 2812.56 Well it's not that many meetings. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2812.56 2816.71 So that sh that shouldn't is there really? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2819.2 2819.41 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2831.07 2831.96 Something like that would be 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2825.59 2831.07 Or returns twenty, even if it returns twenty, do you cut off at ten, do you rank them, do you what's the threshold? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2819.96 2823.99 So if it m so yeah, if you return seventy five, wh where do you stop? 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2823.99 2825.59 How do you rank them or something. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2827.73 2828.91 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2829.54 2829.86 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2825.76 2827.73 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2828.91 2829.54 Yeah, that's true. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2831.54 2832.56 Hmm yeah, that's true. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2832.24 2837.32 Hmm look through them all. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2837.32 2837.6 Well 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2835.66 2836.69 One at a time and 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2834.25 2835.66 Look through them all, yeah. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2840.81 2845.42 But you wanna find the one that actually contains it usefully somehow. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2836.12 2840.81 It would be useful as well for a word like language that might occur in all of them. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2845.79 2846.2 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2846.79 2847.02 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2847.83 2848.13 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2849.34 2852.07 You know, you still wanna be able to search for for the word language. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2854.1 2854.98 In a sensible way. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2858.5 2860.22 Well we'll discuss it again on Friday. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2866.77 2867.19 Yeah. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2874.89 2875.36 So is that it? 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2876.28 2877.07 I think so. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2878.5 2878.81 Tick. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2877.32 2878.5 Yep. 
EN2002c H01 FEO072 2876.35 2877.32 Yep. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2880.7 2882.03 I've signed off already. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2879.45 2880.7 Tick. 
EN2002c H02 MEE071 2877.33 2879.45 We're done. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2880.18 2880.57 Okay. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2882.21 2882.9 Yeah. 
EN2002c H03 MEE073 2889.09 2889.64 Mm. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 20.63 25.11 Forget every time that the 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 23.12 25.62 Oh dear, this doesn't stick at all. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 29.52 31.33 What Rena. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 31.33 32.97 What, this bit or this b 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 34.94 35.47 Like this? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 41.28 47.07 Where did my oh, it's it's stuck here. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 42.01 43.36 wanna go today. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 49 52.15 Ooh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 49.96 53.68 I sabotaged it. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 51.4 52.79 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 76.77 84.25 or maybe if I set it here on the this brand thing. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 84.25 85.09 Are they on, yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 65.88 67.34 Okay. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 67.34 76.77 Keep an eye if I'm dropping this 'cause just seem ah, as I said, it doesn't seem very s Perhaps sweater 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 85.09 86.4 On. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 73.12 73.9 Doesn't wanna stay. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 70.53 73.12 Ooh, there you go. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 72.91 74.54 Yeah, mine doesn't stick today either. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 74.93 75.87 Yeah, seems slippery. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 86 86.43 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 88.72 90.62 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 91.33 92 What day is it? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 107.69 107.92 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 108.15 110.06 Who wants to write summary? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 111.45 111.84 Summary. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 113.27 114.2 What? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 114.2 120.24 Was that a answer? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 120.24 122.07 Well Okay. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 122.07 123.28 I was just about to 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 114.35 115.18 No, just the summary. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 115.18 116.96 No, that was just summary. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 116.96 117.54 No. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 117.54 119.82 Um no um okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 113.44 114.35 Um no. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 118.11 118.22 Oh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 118.88 119.39 I'll do it. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 119.17 121.47 No it won't. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 123.09 124.42 Oh, write the sum okay, right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 126.41 126.96 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 127.34 130.51 Um have you changed the the file yet? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 129.88 136.25 I did I was trying to I didn't have privileges to get in to update your file. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 136.25 140.6 I w I actually meant to I meant to send the email and then I was just c didn't get around to it. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 135.16 135.29 Oh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 136.94 138.06 Yeah, I forgot that actually. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 135.93 136.94 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 139.08 139.99 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 139.99 145.35 No, when we um when you said at the beginning I thought must check the read-write and then I never did it. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 148.43 150.02 Um so yeah, I was j yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 150.02 152.54 That was the main thing, so um as soon as that's in it'll be right out. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 161.88 164.78 So that's that's sorta tonight as well. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 154.16 156.72 So so those will be able to play with. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 152.54 154.16 I was making a couple of little change as well. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 169.66 173.4 Um getting a better feel for all these NITE objects. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 156.72 161.88 Still working on the um trying to get the topics and summary search implemented as well. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 143.24 148.43 Yeah, I had yeah, 'cause I forget mine as well, and it's just like, you know, every time put something in there. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 164.78 166.8 So Um yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 166.8 169.66 Other than that it's sorta coming along. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 145.97 146.37 No? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 146.37 146.62 Alright. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 164.51 164.72 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 175.58 175.94 Uh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 173.26 175.58 Mm g yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 174.7 177.72 The fun and games. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 173.26 174.7 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 177.72 179.17 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 182.72 186.12 then you t spend the time to invest and learn all about them, but it's like okay, wow. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 177.61 182.72 I don't know, it's just it's um I don't know, it's it's like if you're gonna use this stuff later on in your life,
EN2002d H03 MEE073 175.45 177.61 It's just I don't know, it seems a little chaos. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 186.12 189.24 What's the minimum I can get away with that that will get me what we need. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 189.24 194.19 So it's like, I don't know, unless I wanna do something with this in the future 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 178.31 178.87 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 186.98 188.94 Yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 188.94 191.51 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 189.57 190.79 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 187.49 189.57 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 193.88 196.71 Make browsers for the rest of the night. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 193.91 197.03 You could change your project. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 197.03 201.21 Do a P. H. D. or uh yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 194.95 196.01 Seems unlikely. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 201.17 202.97 Anyways, so um yeah, that's my bad. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 197.53 200.65 Yeah, mm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 200.65 201.17 I don't know. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 195.9 197.53 Yeah, right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 203.09 206.75 There is a file in the directory called disful. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 208.63 209.53 I ho what is it? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 209.34 209.62 I th 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 209.7 213.07 It's an Excel s S. X. dot X. S. L. . 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 212.08 215.06 I I saw that and I'm just trying to remember if I did create it,
EN2002d H03 MEE073 215.06 223.21 'cause I think I was 'cause I was trying some stuff uh a couple weeks ago, uh so that may be mine. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 211.06 212.08 I think I yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 223.21 223.88 Um 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 215.04 217 I haven't created it. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 224.1 230.01 Doesn't st have anything in it, Oh, it does, it has about three lines of X. M. L. that didn't do much, I think. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 232.14 232.73 What's that? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 230.01 232.14 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 225.49 226.01 Oh really? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 226.01 226.44 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 228.1 228.69 Oh right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 228.69 230.08 Yeah, that's right, yeah, yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 230.32 232.73 Yeah, 'cause I saw it again today and I was just won Was that me. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 228.63 229.4 Oh yeah? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 229.4 230.32 Okay okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 234.56 238.57 Um but yeah, I'll yeah that was that was and sure. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 232.73 234.56 Yeah, I think that was me, I think so. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 234.6 234.99 Well 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 233.8 234.6 Oh right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 236.21 240.47 j do you want remo move that just n just for nicety. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 243.02 244.19 There's plenty in there. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 237.75 241.83 It just seems to be occupied. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 241.83 243.02 The place is alright, doesn't matter really. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 240.32 241.62 No. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 241.62 241.69 G 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 242.7 247.14 Give you false impressions of what's hap s something's going on. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 253.1 256.43 Oh no, they live there, but there's I had even more stuff there yesterday. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 245.62 251.75 I had lots of stuff in there yesterday that Did you see? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 260.83 266.67 It's alright, but uh 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 251.75 253.1 Loads of stuff. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 259.52 260.83 I needed them, they were for this though. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 256.43 259.52 I was unzipping all this kind of crazy huge things that were enormous. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 250.08 252.38 Tons, tons. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 248.8 250.08 Yeah, I know it. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 252.38 253.33 All those objects, yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 249.53 254.51 I I do 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 250.12 253.12 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 253.12 256.61 And really. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 266.67 267.74 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 269.82 271.16 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 267.74 269.82 So we probably won't have to worry about that. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 262.32 263.77 How's our quota on that? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 271.16 273.89 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 263.77 266.67 What's what do actually do you know how much we have? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 258.8 262.32 Right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 273.89 274.39 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 264 268.58 Oh it's huge, several gig I think. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 268.82 269.83 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 272.18 274.89 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 269.83 272.18 Shoulda run the I. L. in that directory. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 273.57 274.76 So yeah, it's no problem. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 274.76 279.82 It's just much bigger than all of our home directories combined, isn't it? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 270.76 273.57 Yeah, it's uh it's about yeah, it's so I think there's about eight gigs on there. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 273.66 274.87 Yeah, something like that, yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 276.76 279.02 Yeah, exac exactly. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 280.23 281.42 Um I don't know. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 281.42 282.36 How's everything else going? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 280.81 281.33 Sounds good. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 282.44 284.56 Has anyone had time to to play with it? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 291.23 291.91 Yeah, I liked it. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 285.08 286.14 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 291.91 292.68 Um 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 289.45 291.23 Uh no, it was good really. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 286.14 289.45 I had a play with it um yesterday. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 286.77 287.02 Oh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 288.41 289.14 Any comments? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 294.08 294.49 uh 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 295.99 300.07 it uh generated a lot of exceptions in the background. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 300.07 302.05 But they didn't cause any problems, but it just 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 299.02 299.91 Oh, yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 299.91 300.27 Actually 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 300.04 300.51 Um 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 310.56 312.37 So it's just kinda doesn't really do anything. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 304.41 310.56 It just prints everything out in the in the shell as well, like as it does everything, it just kinda I guess that's its default behaviour anyway. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 301.89 302.81 Do we wanna keep that? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 302.81 304.41 Like are we keeping that how that happens? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 312.37 313.29 So, okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 302.1 302.51 Oh right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 310.13 311.19 Might as well, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 313.14 316.02 The thing is that, yeah, there is as I said a while ago 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 311.19 313.14 I mean yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 316.02 323.14 there is still this one error which is a bug in in N. X. T. um that r r always generates these. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 323.14 326.93 I think when you when you left-click or right-click or something, I can't remember now. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 320.07 320.77 Oh, right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 327.41 327.61 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 337.97 338.21 Good. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 335.93 336.75 Good. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 336.75 337.97 Good. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 328.35 335.93 Um but if it's a real error, then it it stops, so you can't do any any more. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 335.37 338.21 I did have a look. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 332.8 335.37 Uh yeah, I didn't discover any of those, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 344.04 346.74 And it the the th the start-up's great, looks quite good, looks alright. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 338.21 344.04 I prodded it to see if it'd break, but it didn't break too m I didn't play that long, but um it seemed alright really, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 346.74 347.83 And so yeah, yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 334.34 336.43 It's good thing. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 336.43 338.41 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 338.56 338.77 Right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 335.53 338.56 'Kay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 344.02 344.36 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 347.04 347.3 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 353.94 355.25 But uh I can do that. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 351.51 353.94 so I didn't didn't take it for a full test drive yet. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 355.25 357.15 That's well, right after this, yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 347.79 348.11 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 348.11 351.51 I was more or less just playing with the things that had to do directly with what I was doing 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 352.2 352.55 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 356.82 362.29 Is there any any comments you have about just like wording and or some sort of minor things? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 355.56 356.82 Yeah, be good. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 356.43 357.39 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 357.39 357.85 I'll do it. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 362.67 363.63 No, looked alright. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 368.35 371.11 But uh the the s It doesn't matter too much. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 363.63 368.35 The only the only thing is the it's not the start-up screen is not too pretty. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 363.49 363.67 Hmm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 368.63 371.15 A lot of this Java stuff isn't though. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 369.31 370.73 Yeah, I know. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 374.39 380.26 But um, you know, I would make them a bit nice if I had more time, but at the moment it doesn't look like that. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 370.73 374.39 At the moment as well the whole windows that pop up are not pretty at all. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 380.26 382.51 So I will if 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 379.93 380.21 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 380.21 383.52 No, it's not it's not it's not a um it's not the top priority, is it. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 387.18 387.53 Oh yeah? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 387.53 387.99 Okay, right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 381.83 386.03 If you if you ch if you change your window manager, it might look a little bit nicer. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 386.03 387.18 Just yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 385.29 385.66 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 387.73 390.24 'Cause um it Java uses the native Windows, doesn't it? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 385.66 387.73 I think it'd look better on Windows as well actually. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 390.24 390.68 So 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 390.81 391.05 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 391.81 392.12 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 392.81 393.72 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 393.72 397.78 Actually can we run it on Windows. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 393.43 394.28 But we don't 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 395.04 399.38 Hey Zoe. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 395.18 397.83 No. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 401.33 402.29 Nasty. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 397.15 401.33 But that took me so long to do this bloody start window. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 402.29 406.1 So I'm quite glad that it looks, you know, ni nice on one or this kind of thing. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 400.98 401.4 Do they? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 401.4 401.89 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 402.37 402.59 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 401.2 402.37 Oh yeah? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 405.89 408.79 Were you using like a GUI builder or just all from code? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 408.26 409.67 No, this is just yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 409.68 410.94 Okay, and that's 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 413.1 414.92 That's nasty. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 414.8 418.97 Well the um the um speaker characterisation is finished. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 420.27 420.63 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 419.87 420.27 Wow. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 418.92 419.87 Oh yeah? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 419.86 420.19 Alright. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 428.84 431.16 It runs it much faster than if I do it here. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 424.37 428.84 So I do it it's faster for some bizarre reason if I log in at home and then run the code. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 431.16 431.33 But 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 420.29 424.37 I haven't done it, I haven't updated all those object files though 'cause it takes ages on these computers. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 420.4 420.72 It's good. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 431.11 432.8 That's odd, yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 431.27 432.16 Hmm. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 432.76 436.66 But that's why I just can't to sit in the lab and wait half an hour or whatever it takes 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 446.25 446.53 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 446.53 452.56 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 452.56 453.37 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 439.09 442.53 I don't know. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 434.48 438.67 Well well can you can you connect to your home machine from here and then start it from there? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 438.67 439.09 Just yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 442.53 446.25 I've done stuff like that before, it's insane, it's insane. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 449.29 449.72 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 449.72 453.97 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 445.35 449.29 It'll really speed it up. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 438.29 438.89 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 438.89 445.35 No, I tried that, but l yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 438.72 441.86 Try that a few times. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 441.86 459.22 Yeah, I started I started using your um um the speak I don't know if you've seen that in the yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 459.16 466.46 I saw that it it doe it's tells tells you what speakers uh are in which meeting and then you can see which topics which topics yeah,
EN2002d H02 MEE071 466.46 467.15 something like that, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 458.39 459.16 I saw that, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 472.41 472.77 It's nice. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 469.85 472.41 It's got a good interface and easy to use. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 466.94 467.7 Yeah yeah yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 467.7 469.85 But it's good, your your stuff is really coo good. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 488.15 494.48 So the fir one statement is that it will b I'd removed it 'cause w it was like everything is prefixed by statement. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 500.88 501.29 So it 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 494.48 500.88 Every single dialogue act starts with statement and um so everybody's top statement. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 478.94 488.15 But there's some of them some of th the thing actually what I wanted to talk about dialogue acts was um there are some that occur all the time that I just and I don't know how interesting there are. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 473.8 478.94 The um th the dialogue acts are all done, and they're quite amusing some of them. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 473.22 473.8 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 488.3 488.63 Mm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 496.78 497.02 Right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 500.44 500.62 Right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 503.45 503.68 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 500.87 503.45 Well wouldn't won't we include that then? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 501.31 501.57 Who? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 506.82 507.92 Well I don't know what that means. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 507.92 509.52 Who knows what back-channel. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 503.14 506.82 And then everybody the next one seems to mostly be back-channel. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 502.45 503.14 So I got rid of that. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 508.22 508.56 What was it? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 508.48 508.66 What? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 509.83 511.83 It's when they say mm, uh-huh, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 512.1 512.77 Is that what that means? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 513.7 516.05 Um and then the others are quite 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 512.77 513.7 Oh, keep that then. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 512.59 512.77 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 513.66 513.9 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 515.21 517.91 I don't know if that's very useful, because everyone does it. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 517.91 518.7 It's very 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 517.33 517.85 Exactly. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 515.59 517.33 Well, it's kinda boring, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 519.47 520.95 There are some people who don't do that. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 524.11 525.23 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 528.76 532.88 Some people have and acknowledgement is a big one that comes up all the time, yes no questions. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 532.88 535.72 Um uh what else comes up? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 520.95 524.11 Actually yeah, you can see that they don't do that and it's the bottom of their list. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 518.84 519.47 Some people don't though. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 525.23 528.76 I know. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 518.66 518.84 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 520.8 521.16 Really? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 522.35 523.34 Hmm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 523.91 527.33 They're asleep, I think. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 525.24 528.65 It's just very quiet. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 525.38 527.02 Right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 535.28 540.2 So which you know, suggest maybe you can suggest a few that which which would be interesting to list. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 540.2 541.41 Like three or four or something. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 540.66 541.2 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 572.67 574.47 But I can change that. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 576.16 579.67 That's what I m That's what I'm asking you really. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 560.01 566.77 and will give you that in top order as well, or will give you or you can just search for each specific dialogue act. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 547.97 551.07 You give it any number and it will give you the top whatever for each person. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 551.07 560.01 And then each meeting knows about all the different dialogue acts for each person in the meeting, and the amount that that occurred,
EN2002d H02 MEE071 574.47 576.16 Um so I don't know what we want to display. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 541.2 547.97 But that's the thing and so I wanted to know whether or not we 'cause at the moment you can get there's a method that will just give you the top five for or the top X. . 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 566.77 572.67 Do you have to search on in B. s and K. s rather than real words right at the moment. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 548.74 548.97 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 549.13 549.79 Oh yeah, cool. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 549.99 550.42 Very nice. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 574.1 574.42 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 578.19 583.48 Or I don't know, if we have like uh a choice, so they can filter those out f the the top most common,
EN2002d H03 MEE073 583.48 587.83 just say okay all show all or show, you know, only the im interesting ones. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 577.59 578.19 Okay, right. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 587.05 589.34 All's a lot, all's like twenty five 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 589.91 590.16 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 590.21 590.53 But 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 590.98 592.76 Dialogue acts per b 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 591.49 596.84 I mean do we do we care if, you know why not w I think, you know, it'd be it'd be difficult 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 593.59 595.04 I don't know, yeah, it doesn't really matter. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 593.21 593.59 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 595.04 597.33 Well, if we just automatically filter these out. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 597.82 605.8 But it would be difficult if, you know, if in the um speaker characterisation window we had a heading, you know, top five dialogue acts. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 605.8 612.11 And then then the little brackets, but they're not actually the top five, but top five minus the most common ones, which are, you know 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 622.79 629.26 and then in the meeting you have what you could either have the most commonly occurring ones or you could have a list of each speaker's top dialogue acts. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 617.32 622.79 and so just say one of the boxes just explains does this is my top five dialogue acts for the speaker 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 612.7 617.32 I think we should have the global top five that cause it each speaker's got top a top whatever 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 612.12 612.7 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 612.16 613.03 They're boring. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 613.54 613.97 Because 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 622.33 622.61 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 621.3 622.33 For the speaker. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 631.46 633.42 But it would start take a lot of space if you have it 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 630.63 631.46 Either of those would do you. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 633.16 635.13 No, I wouldn't yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 636.54 639.91 So you s 'cause it's 'cause it's a speaker window, the speaker characterisation window comes up. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 644.04 649.62 And then then the top five in that meet in global, the top five this meeting, and then the rest is r obvious, isn't it. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 639.91 644.04 So you've got the global one there, and then here you can just have the top five in this meeting. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 635.41 636.54 Or you could have no, you don't need that. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 649.62 649.79 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 639.21 640.01 Exactly, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 643.52 644.4 Yep. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 644.4 644.82 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 645.29 645.45 Mm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 647.49 647.7 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 645.97 647.49 Yeah yeah, yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 647.1 647.29 Right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 649.08 649.27 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 649.97 654.04 Yeah, just do top five, both local and global, and then have another 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 655.11 661.37 Um but then we want a selection of three or four maybe interesting ones, and then 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 660.48 660.86 That occur. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 674.26 684.42 Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 670.23 671.7 One guy has top five joke. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 672.29 673.28 He's an undergrad. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 684.42 685.58 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 662.56 667.14 But you th some often the interesting ones don't occur, things like joke don't occur very often. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 673.96 674.26 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 673.28 673.96 That's quite funny. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 667.14 670.23 Well they do sometimes, but they're not that common. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 671.7 672.29 One of them is joke. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 685.58 686.33 He's the joker. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 673 678.32 Oh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 673.54 678.28 You followed all this up. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 681.06 681.52 It's perfect. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 681.52 684.07 I mean that's sorta exactly what you wanna do and look at these things. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 677.35 679.06 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 679.06 679.86 Actually yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 679.86 681.06 This is good for browsing though. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 684.07 685.48 And so Yeah, who's doing what. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 682.05 685.04 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 685.35 687.51 Yeah, see, and that's what speaker characterisation gives you. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 687.5 688.37 Exactly. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 688.37 688.9 It's fun. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 688.4 688.74 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 689.19 692.61 It's like I'm only interested in this guy, 'cause he seems to be funny. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 692.61 702.87 So what is it. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 689.33 689.99 Who's the one who dr 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 696.79 698.6 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 692.33 696.79 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 698.6 704.09 That'd be quite good, wouldn't it? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 694.93 697.49 Let's take 'em to the next joke. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 694.46 694.93 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 697.49 702.02 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 692.35 694.46 Right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 692.41 694.15 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 713.73 722.34 I don't know, twenty, is that the ho what percentage of his speech is joke, or w how what percentage of the jokes 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 702.91 713.73 Um so is is this percentage then um if you say like um joke for this speaker is percentage,
EN2002d H01 FEO072 696.74 702.91 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 715.16 715.5 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 728.46 728.72 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 720.44 728.46 What percentage of the dialogue acts that he makes are jokes, in the meeting and globally separately, so once globally. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 725.33 726.53 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 723.9 725.33 Are jokes. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 726.53 726.66 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 727.81 728.17 Okay. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 735.26 737.33 So I just ignored that as well. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 733.47 735.26 A lot of them are coded with Z., which means no label. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 730.56 733.47 Um I think most things are coded with a dialogue act. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 737.33 737.9 'Cause that's boring. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 736.63 736.85 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 756.39 757.72 Yeah yeah yeah, somebody else's joke. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 757.72 760.25 So yeah, you have to be original about your material. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 747.81 751.65 So they put they put the the dialogue act and then they put a double a colon and they put that aside. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 740.59 747.81 And also the other thing that they have is um if somebody quotes something, so if I quote a joke to you they separate that. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 751.65 756.39 Just ignored anyth any quoted material, 'cause it's got nothing to do with I just scrapped it. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 739.46 740.59 And statement, which is boring. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 760.25 764.04 Otherwise we don't credit it to you. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 753.58 754.62 Right, okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 755.13 756.42 Well it's not a real joke anyways. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 752.6 753.58 Hmm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 754.62 755.13 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 753.43 753.94 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 758.4 760.24 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 760.24 767.48 Yeah, I mean just keep it simple as 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 767.8 768.03 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 768.13 769.35 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 769.35 769.67 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 768.8 770.78 Um 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 775.7 776.67 Super. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 771.16 774.94 Okay, that sounds real so that's sort of implemented now or is that or is it close? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 777.64 778.29 Like to test that. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 776.67 777.64 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 774.94 775.7 Wow. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 774.23 775 Yeah, that's all done, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 775 775.59 All done, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 781.95 783.39 But I think it's pretty much complete done. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 784.93 786.83 So you can us start using that whenever. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 783.39 784.29 So I'll do that tonight. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 781.55 781.95 I can't remember. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 784.29 784.93 Just put it up there. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 776.73 781.55 Um yeah, I just have to I'll just finish there might be some polishing. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 783.19 783.48 Actually 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 782.98 783.19 Mm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 785.03 786.49 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 786.49 791.99 And when I update my N. L., just uh recompile the M. browsers and then just uh get that. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 801.03 803.84 Just prefix 'em with an M. and Or 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 791.99 792.8 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 792.8 796.99 Well, so it'll use as my part as well, my um the M. search. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 796.99 801.03 It w actually do we have like naming convention for s our sorts files? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 791.48 792.41 You will, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 794.79 794.92 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 796.55 797.01 Sounds good. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 802.98 806.35 Yeah, I was thinking that um it sort of turned out that way a bit, didn't it? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 806.78 806.9 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 807.98 810.25 It Like for your stuff do you have no. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 806.9 807.98 Well that's sorta what I was doing. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 805.78 806.78 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 812.61 813.62 Well, I can judge it if you want. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 809.41 812.61 No, I just well it's called meeting and speaker. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 811.63 812.49 Oh okay, alright. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 813.69 815.62 It doesn't really ma no, it doesn't matter at this point. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 815.62 817.01 No, I was just kinda curious. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 817.01 818.85 I'm thinking about future stuff maybe, if 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 813.93 814.35 I don't know. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 814.35 815.03 Does it matter? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 815.51 815.92 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 817.01 817.88 Oh, I was 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 818.63 820.71 We could put it in a sep in a p package. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 820.92 821.65 Yeah, that's true too. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 821.81 822.58 If you can be bothered. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 822.82 824.06 Yeah, yeah, doesn't matter. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 829.41 831.01 As long as in the same directory it works. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 824.1 826.79 Well it doesn't seem to make any differ I've never ever used Java packages. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 833.43 833.72 Right. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 826.79 829.41 Doesn't even make any difference. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 831.01 833.43 So sod it. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 827.7 829.39 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 829.39 829.83 'Cause 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 831.51 831.68 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 831.78 832.13 Mm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 834.35 834.65 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 836.04 841.56 I have one one m one little question that I reckon we should have a little icon for our browser. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 846.38 848.29 No. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 842.89 846.38 Well then you can double-click on and it oh, oh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 844.58 848.04 Well no, the thing is um in, yeah, in the the top left. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 855.04 855.57 So 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 848.04 855.04 At the moment they've got an X., which is, you know, N. X. T. and it's sort of a bit cheeky to use that. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 846.66 848.71 Like instead of the 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 849.66 850.49 Oh yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 850.49 850.74 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 853.42 855.1 Yeah, it will have something else. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 855.1 857.35 Just borrow a little Microsoft GIF like that. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 855.25 855.83 Hmm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 857.2 858.81 Mm yeah right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 866.06 869.31 We could the only thing I could think of was an M. . 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 869.31 869.83 But 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 857.48 862.28 No, we want something original. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 862.28 866.06 What do you suggest? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 860.16 867.31 Oh. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 868.48 869.49 Yeah, I know, yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 869.49 869.88 Same here. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 871.74 872.4 M. B. . 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 882.36 890.82 Yeah, that would be good. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 890.82 892.24 Ah no. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 871.92 874.6 We have the g big yellow one maybe. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 882.18 882.36 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 874.6 882.18 No Huh? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 874.58 878.87 Where have I seen that before. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 874.88 881.07 We'd be sued for that, I think. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 876.19 878.84 Oh right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 882.54 882.8 Well, it's. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 882.8 887 I don't know. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 880.88 882.54 Super-size meeting browser. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 882.62 883.98 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 882.79 887.65 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 888.44 889.12 Um 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 892.58 897.91 Just probably basic just text font, and just something nice, something solid maybe. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 897.91 898.34 Be a good 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 896.55 897.03 Yeah um 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 897.51 898.73 Yeah, anything you like, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 898.64 904.01 I mean it's tiny, so we can't really put more than one character really or one sort of simple GIF. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 901.32 902.02 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 908.08 909.36 No? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 909.36 909.71 No? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 904.02 908.08 Anybody have any um artistic talent? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 909.71 909.9 Ok 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 903.75 904.02 I know. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 908.92 909.96 No. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 909.96 910.65 Well, I can dr 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 909.54 914.34 Do you think we'd be doing uh M. S. C. s in Informatics if we did? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 914.34 920.82 Some people do, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 920.82 922.28 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 909.94 910.16 Oh. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 912.49 914.87 Oh it's possib some people are balanced. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 919.17 922.58 Maybe I'll check see if I can find anyone. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 914.87 918.4 Some people are No, I know some balanced people. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 911.77 912.49 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 922.58 923.08 Um 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 918.4 919.17 no. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 912.78 921.82 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 923.16 925.11 Well if you find anything, then send it to me. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 925.24 925.54 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 926.23 927.86 Otherwise I'll I'll make up some M. . 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 933.42 934.93 Uh-huh, yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 931.53 933.42 Is it just basic little Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 928.06 931.53 How do you s add that to the to the Java programme? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 932.22 933.99 I'm not sure actually. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 933.99 934.61 I'm thinking yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 934.5 940.76 You do it in um one of the w whatever the main is it you set w GIF or some Set f set set picture or something. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 933.51 934.5 That's really easy. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 940.76 941.3 It's really simple. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 939.78 940.1 Oh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 946.69 946.96 But 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 943.83 945.98 But I'll have to import it somehow. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 945.98 946.69 I'm not quite sure. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 940.07 943.83 Yeah, yeah yeah, I I know yeah, I know how to how to put it there. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 942.87 943.88 So just in the main frame. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 943.88 944.4 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 944.4 945.01 Okay, right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 946.88 947.29 Right, okay. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 947.23 949.95 Yeah, I think you just give it a file-name and it tells it it knows 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 949.12 950.78 Yeah, yeah, probably. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 952.51 953.2 Oh cool. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 953.2 953.8 Nice. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 950.16 952.51 Oh, so it'll do the automatic scrunching down if it's bigger? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 953.8 954.06 Super. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 951.98 953.45 Yeah, yeah, it just sticks it in the corner. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 954.69 955.01 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 953.45 954.69 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 953.03 953.39 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 954.46 963.25 We have to remember to include that in our evaluation, how they did the GIF improve your browsing experie 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 961.53 967.12 They know it's a distincting di distinctive experience, I guess. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 967.12 967.32 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 961.55 964.18 Yes. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 961.56 965.16 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 966.35 966.62 Sorry. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 966.98 968.91 Oh yes. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 970.42 975.88 It go welcome to the meeting browser. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 975.88 977.5 No, that's problem. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 968.62 970.42 It could even have some sound when it comes on. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 977.5 978.41 Have to do it in the 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 972.78 976.52 No uh 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 970.92 972.78 No. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 971.05 973.11 Can we g 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 974.51 976.1 Can we get sound on these machines? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 976.1 976.54 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 976.54 983.57 I wish Actually have you ever managed N oh yeah, you must have, yeah, got play any sort of music on the DICE machines? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 983.57 984.36 Right, okay. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 983.17 987.01 Not no, but I think if you put headphones in, it will just play just normally. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 986.76 987.58 Oh right right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 987.58 989.71 They have them on the front too, I think. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 989.71 989.99 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 986.87 987.97 If 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 989.36 998.1 if the sound-card is registered to your name, which it usually is not, and you have to re-boot, and sometimes it still doesn't work, then yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 994.27 994.84 Okay, right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 992.71 994.27 Mm. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 994.2 994.64 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 993.04 994.2 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 998.01 998.22 Right. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 998.42 999.51 Sometimes it works, yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1002.59 1003.05 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 999.02 1002.59 I guess that's why we have a separate speech lab. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1003.05 1006.61 Yeah, um 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 999.94 1000.03 Damn. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1002.54 1004.25 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1008.49 1009.72 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1006.12 1007.44 Get a lot of audio. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1002.54 1004.5 Yes. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1009.72 1012.47 Um okay, well this this looks good. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1004.5 1006.12 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1007.44 1008.49 No. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1011.66 1012.55 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1012.55 1012.97 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1010.82 1011.66 'Kay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1014.45 1014.99 Um 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1014.46 1022.53 I ran in some troubles with the indexing, but uh f found another package I instead of writing it from um the scratch,
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1027.5 1027.9 But 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1022.53 1027.5 'cause it well, I don't know um just now, but I haven't played around it that much. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1030.34 1034.25 We'll see what happens in the next few days. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1031.38 1031.67 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1033.14 1037.78 Are we gonna be uh trying to get the output from that and I don't know, still haven't found out if it's um 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1052.52 1058.82 just pick the top five to to do the the search and Since that's probably what we're looking for anyways. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1047.44 1051.04 like to be looking through the highest ranked ones first. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1039 1041.13 feasible to open up more than one well 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1058.82 1058.99 So 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1041.13 1047.44 as many mm NOM objects as we can for each meeting to do like we were gonna need like figure that the ranking did make sense 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1051.04 1052.52 So if we are gonna look through only five of them 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1040.85 1042.32 Yeah we'll think about that. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1054.85 1056.63 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1059.67 1061.08 I can send you right now. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1061.08 1061.49 Like 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1061.24 1061.46 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1062.77 1063.41 Um 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1065.75 1070.74 I still can't make it run T. N. T. from Java. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1071.4 1074.43 If you can make it work, then I'll be well chuffed. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1070.74 1071.4 Yeah, you try it. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1065.9 1066.42 C. . 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1073.77 1078.64 S Yeah, I'd That'd be a surprise 'cause I'm bad at Java. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1068.21 1069.75 Are you serious? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1080.08 1080.54 Um 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1078.64 1080.08 Yes. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1072.96 1073.77 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1072.55 1072.96 Yeah? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1069.75 1072.55 Maybe I'll try. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1073.18 1073.67 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1090.58 1092 It's just like 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1083.6 1090.58 But uh feels like it's it's a Java course more than anything else. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1080.83 1083.6 I didn't expect this course to be so much about Java. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1078.2 1080.83 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1083.83 1084.61 Yeah, seriously. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1088.05 1092.67 It's a Java course. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1089.65 1089.98 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1090.05 1091.26 Mm yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1091.26 1093 Practical Java. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1091.84 1097.34 In fact it's a N. X. T. package. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1094.84 1096.29 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1095.01 1098.08 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1098.08 1100.31 How do you guys find the documentation for N. X. T. and 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1095.98 1096.94 Course, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1100.38 1103.35 Right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1101.46 1102.31 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1103.04 1104.4 That's my belief as well. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1101.61 1103.04 Yeah, okay, good. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1103.71 1108.48 I mean sometimes they have methods that don't have any explanation to them at all. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1108.48 1114.27 So you just like right, I'll try this then and see what it gives me. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1107.99 1108.4 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1108.35 1109.27 Yeah, I think it was 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1112.99 1122.31 And it uh it's was apparently generated by going to d generate JavaDoc and it just went Spat it all out and they never bothered to uh d comment anything. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1110.6 1111.55 So what does. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1111.55 1112.99 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1113.08 1113.43 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1112.09 1113.08 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1122.18 1125.77 Well it's still I guess research platform. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1125.77 1126.11 Uh 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1121.03 1122.18 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1125.06 1125.54 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1125.54 1127.56 At least get to know what methods are there. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1129.04 1129.44 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1127.56 1129.04 So without having to look at the source codes. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1127.55 1127.82 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1132.11 1132.44 Well 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1131.22 1132.11 I was just curious. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1129.11 1130.66 Yeah, that's true. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1130.66 1131.22 Okay. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1131.22 1131.61 What? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1131.27 1131.6 Hmm. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1132.68 1133.7 Yes, that's it right here. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1138.48 1139.21 So 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1158.09 1159.32 Should we Um 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1144.58 1151.63 I thought I thought we said th I thought we ch yeah, I thought we change it to the tenth or something. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1151.63 1158.09 Um 'cause the thing is I mean we can keep working on little things f you know and sh Oh, well we should do this or do this. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1138.83 1144.58 So c did we have a date for when we actually want the system done? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1143.8 1144.19 Friday? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1145.92 1146.81 It's the eighth. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1144.42 1145.92 Today, wasn't it? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1150.39 1150.78 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1145.13 1150.39 We change it to Friday. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1145.94 1146.97 I thought it was Friday. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1149.77 1151.51 Okay. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1152.01 1153.11 I guess that's not 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1161.04 1169.33 so I don't know, do we want to set an actual hard deadline for like did when exactly were we gonna start the evaluation? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1165.65 1166.99 Yeah, I think we both should, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1169.32 1174.17 Well that's the problem, because Steve hasn't given us any details, has he? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1187.03 1188.05 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1185.04 1187.03 And could actually be fun. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1181.39 1185.04 I mean that's that's fairly straight-forward. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1179.2 1181.39 come up with scenarios, that sort of thing. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1190.34 1190.58 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1174.27 1179.2 Well we yeah, I guess well we can still come up with like test cases or whatever for for the people and just yeah,
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1173.58 1174.27 Mm 'kay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1188.05 1190.34 That's true, just brain-storm, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1180.45 1181.19 That's true. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1184.86 1186.81 I I'm sure we could do that in like a meeting 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1187.98 1189.57 and make it up together. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1189.57 1189.89 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1191.17 1191.47 Um 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1195.97 1203.1 but we won't be able to do any evaluation during the weekend anyway, so I think we could set Monday. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1193.08 1195.97 the thing is yeah, we had the the deadline last Friday,
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1193.34 1193.79 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1201.08 1201.89 So we 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1200.23 1201.08 No. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1200.63 1201.41 Yeah, that's true, yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1203.08 1205.94 Yeah, that would be more reasonable. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1205.94 1207.64 'Cause the I. L. is Friday. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1203.2 1203.52 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1205.4 1205.7 Right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1205.89 1207.27 And that would give us the whole weekend. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1208.99 1210.52 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1207.73 1208.99 To work on it as well. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1214.45 1217.59 I have to read the paper. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1210.52 1214.45 No, I've I've got my D. N. L. G. presentation on Monday. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1217.59 1218.02 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1209.18 1210.32 What? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1218.66 1220.45 Well but yeah, Monday 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1210.32 1215.96 Oh yeah, you have your presenta Right, whatever. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1215.96 1218.66 It's too much now. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1221.17 1221.47 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1222.11 1223.54 we'll try and do Monday. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1223.54 1224.57 Um I mean we could 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1222.68 1223.4 Yeah, I think so. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1226.13 1227.72 Should we meet up Monday? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1228.77 1229.34 Or 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1231.33 1233.83 We'll probably have to talk to Steve at some point as well I guess. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1233.83 1235.15 But um 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1232.08 1232.52 Should we 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1233.84 1234.19 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1235.81 1237.33 Just sh like w 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1242.67 1247.55 He's not around this week, is he or that's why I think that's why we didn't have the the meeting. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1239.49 1242.67 Like we can send him an email, but I don't know if he's around even. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1236.76 1239.49 I'll probably just have a regular Tuesday meeting with him. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1242.27 1242.68 Just 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1241.52 1242.27 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1245.04 1245.39 I don't know. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1245.39 1246.31 I think it was. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1246.3 1247.69 Don't know. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1247.69 1248.99 Maybe it's just a day, I don't know. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1249 1249.43 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1249.39 1250.03 Yeah, 'kay. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1249.7 1250 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1250.7 1251.8 He'll probably re-do it anyway. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1251.8 1252.05 So 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1250.11 1250.7 Send him an email. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1254.3 1257.86 S s So if we don't ask we can push it off and 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1252.61 1254.3 Although do we really want the answer. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1251.8 1252.61 Yeah, it's true. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1251.9 1252.04 Okay. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1255.64 1255.96 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1254.82 1255.64 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1258.14 1261.95 At the end we'll say, yeah but you never gave us any test subjects. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1256.96 1258.14 Exactly, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1255.43 1256.96 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1257.89 1258.22 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1260.3 1262.2 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1261.55 1262.35 Yeah w 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1264.47 1265.23 Did he say that or what? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1262.28 1264.47 Well so he's supposed to give us test subject. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1267.09 1269.33 He would he would make something up. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1269.33 1272.72 Ha yeah, find some people, that's how I understood it. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1264.39 1267.09 Well sort of, that's how I understood it. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1272.72 1274 Um the thing is, you know 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1265.63 1267.08 He said he might he would try. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1268.8 1269.16 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1270.1 1271.75 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1272.58 1273.12 Yeah, that's 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1271.75 1272.58 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1272.11 1282.1 'Cause we're gonna get an email on our uh M. S. C. list saying from Steve, we need volunt yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1272.11 1272.49 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1277.93 1279.17 We're looking for volunteers. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1276.3 1277.93 You're right, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1282.07 1290.05 Um I think if we if we don't get anything from him, then we should just do our friends basically. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1279.56 1282.07 Yes. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1281.17 1281.44 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1290.13 1290.28 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1290.36 1292.24 Yeah, if they have time. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1292.24 1293.46 It's hard finding people. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1305.1 1308.68 We need to use each other for those 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1296.3 1300.67 They're gonna need us for like perception projects and things like that. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1292.2 1296.3 Well th they gonna u need us. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1300.67 1305.1 So yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1294.26 1294.54 Hmm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1295.39 1297.86 Well they're your friends, so they should 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1296.74 1298.33 Yeah yeah I know, but 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1303.7 1305.04 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1302.1 1303.7 Yeah, that's true. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1300.6 1302.1 Yeah, that's true. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1299.97 1300.6 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1305.04 1305.31 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1300.84 1301.81 But it's not gonna take long. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1301.81 1303.89 It's only only gonna be half an hour maybe. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1306.49 1306.91 Um 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1325.65 1327.5 Set a wider range of people. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1323.3 1325.65 I think that might be good, as well. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1308.98 1313.1 Actually some other friends of mine in different programmes might might be more willing. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1313.1 1314.82 Have more of a break. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1306.8 1308.98 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1317.72 1323.3 Like not like highly computer lit like not, you know, Linux literate or yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1314.82 1317.72 So that might be an idea, get a range of types of people as well. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1312.25 1316.08 Yeah, that's true. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1321.02 1322.03 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1322.03 1323.02 It'll have to be, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1318.49 1320.05 Maybe, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1320.05 1321.02 Well it will be. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1325.04 1325.38 Hmm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1326.57 1327.31 So 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1327.51 1329.9 So how many people do we uh try and 'cause it 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1353.05 1354.07 Oh yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1354.07 1355.72 S We don't want to. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1338.72 1339.75 Yeah, exactly. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1329.5 1331.65 Uh no, I think like three or four maybe. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1347.18 1347.9 And that was fine. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1337.75 1338.72 No. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1339.75 1346.36 Like the thing like did an H. C. I. course a while ago and it's just that's what these yeah, there's three people. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1331.65 1337.75 Bet that would be a good yeah, I think that d No, that's that's a lot. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1346.36 1347.18 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1351.44 1352.2 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1352.2 1353.05 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1347.9 1351.44 Then you can do a massive amount of analysis on three people. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1332.65 1333.58 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1331.53 1332.65 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1332.63 1333.68 Really? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1335.54 1336.68 Fifteen. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1333.68 1335.54 I was thinking of like ten. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1335.28 1339.14 No, it'll take forever, and then you gotta analyse the results. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1339.14 1340.88 No no no no no, forget it. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1339.57 1340.2 Uh 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1345.97 1346.3 Really? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1350.96 1352.15 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1351.02 1351.48 Really? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1354.93 1357 How can you get a range of people if you have three? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1357.05 1369.41 Yeah, but one computer scientist one l and one dude off the street. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1360.76 1361.94 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1363.89 1365.92 And then one's supposed to be a woman. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1377.89 1378.1 Oh yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1365.92 1369.05 And one's supposed be a man. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1369.05 1377.89 And one, I don't know. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1357.69 1360.76 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1361.94 1363.89 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1358.48 1360.57 One art student. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1380.94 1382.15 M um 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1369.47 1374.25 yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1379.88 1380.94 If he finds the people. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1374.25 1376.28 Three or four. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1376.28 1377.69 Oh God. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1358.62 1369.47 Yeah, exact exact Mm visible minorities. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1377.69 1379.88 Um but yeah, if he finds them, then that's cool. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1362.75 1365.93 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1372.07 1376.86 Oh dear. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1370.42 1371.83 And hen we should just have two. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1371.83 1372.07 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1376.86 1377.48 Um 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1368.59 1370.42 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1371 1374.9 Yeah, one man, one woman, yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1379.88 1380.19 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1382.54 1382.91 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1383.06 1391.83 Another thing, um, we have the we have the um the presentation on like in one and a half weeks or something, whatever it is. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1391.83 1392.83 Or nearly two weeks. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1383.47 1384.39 Should we just yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1385.16 1385.78 Oh, writing up. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1391.57 1391.78 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1392.03 1392.71 Looks brilliant. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1393.59 1395.38 Yeah, it's Tuesday the twenty second. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1395.44 1396.77 Two two two weeks today. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1394.17 1395.44 Two weeks. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1394.7 1397.66 Oh is Tu yeah, it is two weeks then. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1397.66 1400.33 Do we have to have done the evaluation by then? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1397.11 1397.27 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1397.4 1397.81 Okay. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1400.88 1401.1 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1401.59 1402.13 I think so. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1408.82 1409.7 I is it? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1402.42 1406.1 Um I thought the evaluation maybe for the report. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1409.7 1410.8 That's what I understood. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1406.1 1407.52 So th and that's due on the twenty fifth. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1407.52 1408.82 Twenty fifth is is it? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1403.92 1404.48 Well uh 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1406.16 1407.12 When's the report hand-in? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1407.12 1409.62 Is oh right, is that th is that the Friday? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1412.16 1412.78 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1410.76 1412.16 Oh, it's a Thursday. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1412.78 1413.96 So it's not the yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1409.96 1410.76 What? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1410.01 1410.75 It's the Thursday. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1412.11 1412.99 I think it's the Thursday. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1410.75 1412.11 No, the Thursday, I think. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1411.19 1412.48 The twenty fourth then. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1424.03 1424.18 No. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1420.66 1421.63 Oh yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1426.56 1430.82 So Um Yeah, okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1432.47 1435.67 So that gives us two days to do the uh evaluation. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1412.47 1415 I thought it said twen I thought he said twenty fifth. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1430.82 1432.47 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1424.18 1426.56 Well it wasn't originally either. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1437.66 1438.3 And report. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1415 1419.52 Even though it's Good Friday, I thought okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1419.52 1420.66 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1435.67 1437.66 No evaluation I was gonna say. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1421.63 1424.03 Easter two days yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1417.41 1417.83 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1417.75 1421.84 It's not a good Friday if if that's 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1417.91 1419.25 Is that Good Friday already? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1419.4 1421.14 Yeah yeah, that's Good Friday. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1422.21 1422.71 Wow. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1422.76 1425.87 It's not a good Friday if it's a deadline. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1423.14 1423.48 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1424.31 1424.8 No. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1426.94 1429.74 Well it I'm sure on the web-site it says Thursday. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1429.74 1430.07 Hmm. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1427.88 1428.11 No. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1432.02 1432.53 Can have a look. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1434.46 1436.24 The report, yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1437.94 1438.28 No, we p 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1436.24 1437.38 No, okay. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1437.38 1437.94 Oh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1436.56 1441.09 Well, you know, the the question is, i do we need the evaluation for the presentation. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1445.37 1446.43 But we should ask him. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1441.44 1444.08 I didn't think so necessarily. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1444.08 1445.37 I wouldn't I wouldn't assume. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1448.07 1449.37 Because if not, then 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1446.73 1448.07 We should definitely ask him. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1448.42 1449.24 I thought we would. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1454.91 1458.68 Otherwise it will start to getting b bit tight otherwise. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1451.31 1451.49 Mm. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1451.49 1454.91 oh we should have it we should try and have at it done by then anyway, I think. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1456.41 1459.65 Yeah, that's probably c Like, it's a good target. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1459.65 1461.2 It's a good Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1459.48 1459.65 Oh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1460.55 1461.74 Yeah, you might be right. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1466.29 1468.85 A week no yeah well, basically for Tuesday. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1468.85 1472.14 Start the evaluation t pretty much straight-away and then get 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1462.47 1466.29 We should aim to be finished by Monday, this Monday coming. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1470.92 1472.05 Mm, right. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1473.64 1475.45 Get s yeah, and then get um 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1475.22 1477.5 Because we need to write a presentation as well. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1476.96 1478.72 We have to write the report, yeah, and everything. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1478.72 1479.5 We have to write everything. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1477.13 1477.37 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1482.76 1485.94 'Cause after Monday I'm pretty much free for about a week or so. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1480.58 1482.76 No, it's it just funny that, you know, have it finish by Monday. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1490.73 1491.02 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1485.94 1490.73 It's like it's like if we had, you know, a bit more time. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1479.02 1480.58 Actually it's fun No. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1485.22 1486.94 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1485.26 1486.68 Exactly, me too. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1486.68 1487.71 That's the point. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1489.16 1490.51 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1491.19 1495.85 Well, I'm not free after this Monday, but I'm free at like after the eighteenth. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1490.51 1491.19 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1493.04 1493.47 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1499.6 1503.59 What else uh that's that's easy compared to the other stuff. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1508.27 1508.9 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1507.24 1508.27 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1494.56 1495.58 Oh the next one, okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1495.58 1499.6 See, I'm yeah I'm free this after this Monday, and it's well, why? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1503.59 1505.94 I mean I'm not even worried about that. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1505.94 1507.24 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1495.6 1496.71 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1496.71 1499.79 Oh we have three? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1499.79 1500.56 S. P. two. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1500.22 1505.18 S. P. two. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1502.57 1507.82 Because because I don't have anything after the eighteenth apart from this. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1505.68 1506.21 Aren't you? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1507.8 1508.07 Oh yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1516.52 1520.09 I've not done at all, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1512.25 1514.32 Is that in on the eighteenth? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1508.13 1512.25 And you must have your research proposal. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1514.32 1516.52 Shit. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1510.57 1510.96 Oh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1510.69 1512.76 Well that's in on the eighteenth. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1512.76 1513.07 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1514.64 1516.92 Oh yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1513.78 1514.64 You didn't know that? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1516.92 1517.64 How's yours? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1517.63 1517.89 Oh yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1519.29 1520.96 Thank God. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1519.76 1520.22 Ooh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1521.63 1523.41 So um 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1522.81 1527.85 In our uh timeline we r put in twenty fifth and that's the Friday I think. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1531.43 1532.93 No actually I might have this stuff here. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1527 1527.73 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1527.73 1531.43 Maybe that was us then, not him. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1529.86 1535.81 I'm just that's why I'm trying to find his his dates. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1529.27 1529.86 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1535.81 1536.22 Whatever. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1535.71 1536.47 Schedule. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1536.47 1537.57 Yeah, Thursday twenty fourth. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1540.07 1541.64 Deadline for submission of final report. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1540.16 1542.52 We're planning on having a big party on the twenty fourth. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1542.52 1542.83 So 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1546.76 1547.07 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1545.02 1546.76 Well now you can. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1542.89 1545.02 Oh. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1545.57 1547.68 End of lectures. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1550.26 1551.5 So 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1552.09 1553.8 So twenty fourth so it we sh 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1553.38 1555.36 Anyone fancy writing him an email? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1556.06 1557.28 Oh, it's actually twenty fourth. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1558.84 1563.15 Um just to ask whether we need to have the evaluation done for the demonstration? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1563.15 1563.6 Or 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1557.56 1558.84 Yep. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1564.73 1565.59 And 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1563.42 1564.73 That, yep. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1567.53 1568.39 But okay, yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1568.39 1568.58 Sure. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1566.49 1567.53 We should have it done anyways. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1572.74 1577.47 Is is that is that a part of the demonstration, did they want that information, the evaluation as part of yep. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1571.28 1572.74 Hopefully, but yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1573.54 1574.36 So we would def 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1571.62 1573.54 But it's still important to know. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1577.93 1582.47 I mean we need to know that anyway to prepare the presentation in the first place. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1575.84 1577.93 Yeah, yeah yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1582.47 1583.53 And um 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1581.55 1581.73 Right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1586.6 1587.35 What was the other one. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1588.72 1595.99 Basically, how is how is it going with your evaluation proposal. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1595.99 1600.18 Have you got people yet for us, or what are you thinking, and when? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1595.77 1595.9 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1595.86 1596.28 Oh right. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1607.14 1608.55 Like length or 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1601.31 1607.14 Did he say anything about like h what he expects of the final report and stuff? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1607.42 1607.93 No. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1615.35 1616.57 But yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1611.85 1615.35 Just general, like how it all integrates, blah blah blah, all this kind of stuff. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1607.81 1609.38 Um there are a f a few little things. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1609.38 1611.85 Um just made some comments the last meeting. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1615.3 1618.7 Do we know did he ever say how long it was supposed to be? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1616.57 1616.95 Only 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1619.97 1622.16 I'd expect somewhere ten to fifteen pages. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1618.99 1619.97 No. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1621.81 1623.65 Mm it's gonna be a lot. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1623.02 1625.13 I mean how long we're this 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1624.06 1627.25 Although it's fifty percent of the mark I think, is it? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1627.25 1627.68 I think. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1627.25 1628.08 One, two 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1628.69 1631.2 I mean I think we should we should write everything. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1627.84 1628.69 But we can write a lot. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1628.87 1629.9 yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1631.74 1633.43 Well we have a bit of time to do the writing up. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1631.19 1631.74 Exactly. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1631.44 1632.58 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1642.52 1645.18 We could p probably just expand that. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1632.58 1642.52 'Cause this I mean We have interim report of seven pages, and that's we can y yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1634.73 1635.24 So that'll be good. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1640.08 1641.64 Seven pages? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1641.64 1641.77 Oh. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1646.6 1649.09 I mean 'cause it I mean a lot of it's gonna be the same thing. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1649 1649.78 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1649.78 1652.01 Just a fine-tuned or detailed and yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1650.51 1650.91 True. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1651.78 1652.29 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1658 1658.22 But 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1652.29 1656.33 And then I mean write about the evala evaluation and stuff. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1656.33 1658 That's gonna be quite a few pages. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1653.15 1653.59 More stuff. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1655.9 1656.76 Yeah, we can n 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1657.17 1660.13 Yeah, that could be yeah, that could easily be five or six pages. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1659.15 1661.12 So I don't think 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1662.37 1662.99 Yeah, should be good. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1662.61 1664.73 page is gonna be problem. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1666.26 1666.62 Okay. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1666.82 1667.22 But uh 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1672.84 1673.26 That'd be good. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1670.52 1672.84 So do you wanna write him an email then? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1672.53 1672.83 Sure. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1675.17 1675.86 Um 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1678.5 1682.96 And uh when I get home today, which will be before 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1684.37 1684.96 um 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1686.22 1691.92 before half past six, I will make that file readable, writable, everything. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1691.43 1692.62 Yeah, no no big rush. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1690.46 1691.43 Oh yeah, sure. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1693.18 1694.04 Uh-uh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1694.04 1695.17 Well I I will 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1695.01 1696.04 Although just to get it out of the way. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1696.04 1699.52 So I'll try and remember to do that to my own s 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1699.06 1706 Well I will I will need your snippets of code or it'd be good if I had them by tomorrow evening. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1704.28 1704.54 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1706.39 1706.63 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1708.21 1708.4 Yep. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1709.35 1711.05 Oh, I was gonna ask um 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1712.89 1714.34 at the moment your search window, 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1715.65 1716.57 how is it organised? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1722.01 1725.65 Just um sorta like Google type thing and just um Oh. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1717.32 1722.01 Just basic um pretty much like the interim do you wanna do you have the interim stuff? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1733.57 1733.95 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1725.07 1728.09 But at the beginning, it when you haven't searched yet 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1728.09 1733.57 is it is it just is it still divided into two and the bottom half is just just empty? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1732.66 1732.88 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1731.59 1732.66 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1735.17 1737.64 Then as these come up it'll just pop 'em in there. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1738.82 1741.81 And then if you, I don't know, double-click on one 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1747.44 1750.73 I mean how to get that that communication between the two different kinds of windows. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1742.33 1744.29 It doesn't do anything yet. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1744.29 1747.44 S like that's that's the other big part. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1744.58 1744.86 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1754.3 1754.62 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1759.46 1764.41 um that was why it was sorta deciding to get the three panes in there instead of just the one. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1754.61 1759.46 Because the thing is if we have different things in here, like transcripts versus summaries versus topics 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1764.41 1764.93 Um 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1758.87 1759.63 Yeah yeah yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1760.63 1760.86 Hmm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1766.99 1773.47 Yeah, so so there's a couple of those little things as we Yeah, exact It's beautiful. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1773.47 1775.29 Yeah, m M. makes more sense. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1768.02 1773.81 Well y y this this is the icon by the way. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1770.74 1771.1 Hmm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1775.59 1784.51 Um, yeah, maybe you wanna do um left-handed um yeah, one left-click um highlights the the result in whatever you've got open. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1784.84 1785.74 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1791.83 1792.19 Or 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1785.74 1787.79 Is that how it works in the other ones? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1787.79 1791.83 In like the other windows like the various like um if we're in the topic. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1788.05 1788.47 Which other ones? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1798.12 1798.47 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1791.85 1798.12 Usually one left click, it's highlights it cross-highlights everything, I think. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1789.69 1791.85 Um yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1799.27 1804.2 If you have like a particular w window that you want me to mimic its behaviour,
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1804.2 1808.25 then like just find it in the programme and just say, okay, just how this one does it. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1808.25 1810.51 So if it's like the topic window or the whatever. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1810.08 1811.85 Mm well it's difficult, because 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1816.63 1822.41 So then I can just sorta trace back and figure out what objects they are and bring 'em into here. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1822.41 1822.72 So 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1816.79 1817.67 Well you could look up 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1823.47 1825.33 Mm no, that's difficult. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1825.33 1827.97 Because it the transcription window does cross-highlighting. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1829.24 1832.9 In a very awkward way, because it has to find the topic first. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1832.9 1835.84 That was that was a pain. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1830.85 1831.1 Hmm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1832.82 1833.09 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1846.82 1853.63 And um and that works when you when you left-double-click on a topic oh, on a meeting, sorry, then it loads it. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1837.44 1846.82 And um when you when you g um right-click on a topic, it pops open the list of meetings that contain that pop po topic. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1854.42 1854.67 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1854.7 1855.3 So you could 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1856.45 1857.69 you could take that for loading. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1858.1 1858.27 Right. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1859.71 1865.25 So if we have that um the same on this one, at least that you if you double-left-lick, then it loads. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1867.23 1867.61 Okay. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1872.39 1872.7 Mm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1874.78 1875.24 Mm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1875.81 1878.63 So one left click just highlights Is that? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1879.94 1885.5 I mean a hi obviously highlights whatever you've clicked on here, but also highlights um 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1878.47 1879.94 Highlights um yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1883 1884.13 Oh just the item in 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1885.7 1886.95 The transcript or whatever it is. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1888.48 1889.69 Actually it's difficult, because 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1888.86 1889.14 The 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1893.09 1893.97 Can I have it? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1893.92 1895.61 If even if we could just 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1902.31 1903.33 then it could cross-highlight. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1894.84 1902.31 Because you n you don't you only ever have one meeting open and those results will be op I well I suppose if you have a if you have a local search 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1895.11 1896.05 Well, the one meeting. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1905.72 1906.94 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1906.94 1907.85 That should be possible. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1909.32 1915.06 Because you know, if you get back several different meetings here and you've only got one meeting open, then you can't cross out anything. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1909.61 1909.76 Right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1912.21 1912.42 Oh yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1920.57 1926.23 then we are gonna do it like how we said before and pop up a list of the various meetings that found those terms. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1928.99 1933.37 choose the one we wanna actually do this wi I think multi-select would make the most sense. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1955.71 1958.21 And if we can yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1926.23 1928.99 And then we'll either, you know, multi-select or, you know 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1915.5 1919.44 Although, yeah, this this will uh this is actually different from how we print it up here. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1940.86 1946.15 To actually look for the terms we're not loading it on a val of seventy six I mean or seventy five, whatever it is. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1963.72 1964.62 Yep. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1946.15 1953.08 Um so the r the results from that will, you know, narrow down what we're gonna use for the local search. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1937.27 1940.86 language, we're looking for the l word language and get the highest-rated ones. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1958.21 1963.72 So it it will be a bit different from from how that is right now when when we do the global search at least. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1933.37 1937.27 Well just um if there's like three of the top meetings, like like we said before,
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1919.44 1920.57 Like if we're doing a global search 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1953.08 1955.71 Then we'll just do the local search on those ones that are chosen. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1926.51 1926.86 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1932.67 1933.95 What do you mean by multi-select? 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1944.55 1945.06 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1945.06 1945.61 Oh, okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1956.63 1957.8 Oh, I see what you mean, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1957.8 1958.13 Okay. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1974.1 1974.42 So 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1972.95 1974.1 If not, it can't. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 1962.79 1972.95 Well i i i in any case, if you left-click on on a result that is contained in the meeting that is currently open, then it should cross-highlight. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1972.54 1974.07 Yes, yes. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1974.07 1975.08 Exactly, yep. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 1985.35 1985.5 Okay. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1985.55 1993.95 Um it should be fairly simple to just get the topics and the summaries fro using that text extractor thingy you wrote, Ray. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2000.97 2001.42 Uh yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1996.55 2000.97 It's just do topics instead of seg yeah, you have to get the topics out instead of the segments. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 1994.96 1996.55 Yeah, you have to start again. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 1996.31 1997.94 You just like or 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2000.66 2000.93 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2003.07 2004.35 Excuse me. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2004.35 2007.38 I just realised I haven't done that part yet. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2004.26 2004.71 Hmm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2006.17 2006.77 Can you make 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2007.81 2014.93 Is it d very difficult to make another another GUI, but only for a global search? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2016.65 2019.59 Um so that we search two different 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2019.3 2024.9 Just just take that away, the the local check-box. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2024.9 2026.5 Because um hmm? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2021.55 2022.78 Right. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2022.78 2024.22 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2024.22 2026.34 That's actually fairly 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2025.69 2026.81 Oh. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2024.66 2025.69 To have for the start-up. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2026.81 2027.85 To have for the start-up. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2027.85 2028.2 Uh-huh. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2027.72 2029.79 Yeah, because in the start-up screen you can't have a 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2031.43 2032.27 No, that's easy. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2030.17 2031.43 You know, local anyways, yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2033.93 2035.97 That's that's quite t straight-forward. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2032.27 2033.93 Sure, yep. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2037.98 2041.34 In fact you can just leave everything as it is and just remove the check-box. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2035.75 2037.98 Everything else can just stay the same, you know. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2033.42 2035.75 That'd be really handy. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2032.31 2033.42 Yeah, would you make that? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2037.78 2037.97 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2041.69 2042.17 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2045.84 2049.34 Radio button. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2046.69 2049.42 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2049.19 2051.71 To you're gonna be able to do a global search for topics? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2054.38 2059.32 Yeah g uh that was li like yeah, if I'll make a just index 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2060.73 2062.64 Yeah, I didn't think you'd bother with that, but yeah, cool. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2066.25 2067.26 Yeah, it does, isn't it. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2055.69 2057.67 Is that what you mean, yeah? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2062.64 2064.44 I didn't think we're gonna bother with that. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2059.65 2060.35 Yeah, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2067.26 2067.54 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2060.35 2060.73 Okay. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2064.44 2066.25 But yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2059.02 2059.65 Okay. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2057.67 2059.02 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2057.1 2058.44 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2058.44 2058.94 Exactly. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2062.62 2062.8 What? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2066.36 2067.34 It would be kinda cool 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2064.89 2066.36 Well it it kinda makes sense. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2065.07 2070.67 Well I I mean I I'm f it's not first priority maybe, but don't know. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2070.67 2071.27 But uh 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2079.15 2080.53 Well you are you are, I guess. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2073.1 2075.11 Or is that sorta gone like our own topic segment. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2075.11 2077.6 Like since we can't do the labelling and all the rest. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2077.6 2079.15 We are still doing our topic segment? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2069.01 2073.1 Actually, are we bothering with our topic stuff still? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2069.6 2069.89 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2073.15 2073.49 With 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2072.88 2073.15 What? 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2079.19 2084.41 Well we'll certainly do it enough to make it so we can do some numerical analysis on the Yeah, but at at the very least. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2090.96 2091.32 Probably? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2082.48 2083.16 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2096.73 2097.4 I don't know. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2099.51 2099.61 Mm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2097.4 2099.51 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2092.33 2094.91 La label all the label ones I'll open 'em. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2091.32 2092.33 Okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2083.16 2090.96 But we're not gonna be we won't be l doing a global search on the topics for our topics, since they don't have labels. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2094.91 2096.73 Yeah, all the label twos, yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2083.17 2083.42 Mm. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2094.08 2096.42 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2096.42 2098.21 Uh yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2107.05 2107.16 So 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2103.4 2107.05 I don't think we can expect you to also come up with the search thing for it as well. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2098.21 2099.34 No, we won't be doing that. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2092.46 2094.08 Exactly. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2099.34 2103.4 Well yeah, even if even if I happen to manage to make it decent keywords 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2090.6 2092.46 No. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2091.51 2094.29 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2105.77 2106.42 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2107.01 2108.71 Well no, it will be kind of straight-forward. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2108.71 2110.92 Like if you're creating if you're creating X. M. L. files of this 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2106.42 2107.01 Yeah, okay. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2109.98 2111.83 But if I collate yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2108.77 2109.98 Would, yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2125.31 2127.81 But it's but it's organising the segment data though. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2119.92 2122 It did look like a quite a a mission really. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2127.81 2130.44 It would just looks so complicated to get it from 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2111.83 2115.07 Yeah, if I create X. M. L. files, but if I m I'm not gonna do that. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2122 2125.31 I suppose it's not it's it's as straightforward as writing in X. M. L. files. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2115.07 2119.92 Um I did have a look at trying to create X. M. L. files. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2114.3 2114.61 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2147.71 2148.27 But 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2145.89 2147.71 But yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2142.88 2145.89 But Organise it by time not by speaker. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2132.03 2142.88 the um from a plain text file back into organise it by who which speaker speaks what and how n doing the segment I think that was the stupidest way they could ever have organised the whole thing if you ask me. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2135 2135.39 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2135.36 2135.62 Hmm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2147.17 2147.38 Hmm. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2149.59 2152.01 So I don't know really what we're gonna do about that. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2159.25 2159.61 Okay. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2160.53 2161.69 Yeah. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2162.8 2163.63 I guess we just 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2161.69 2162.8 Yeah. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2160.87 2161.23 Are we done? 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2164.82 2172.03 see what Steve says about the re-evaluation and then like we'll keep in touch by email if we need 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2166.41 2166.59 Yeah. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2169.42 2169.69 Yep. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2172.96 2173.14 Right. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2174.1 2175.55 I guess we will see you on Thursday. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2173.35 2174.1 anything. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2175.85 2177.17 Mm. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2177.89 2178.48 And Monday. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2179.27 2180.12 Mm-hmm. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2179.89 2180.44 D. N. L. G. . 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2181.05 2181.69 Yeah, we don't. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2181.69 2183.66 Do we need another meeting this week? 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2183.71 2184.35 Hmm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2184.98 2187.91 I mean just get work done. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2187.91 2189.84 I think that's what I've gotta do. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2184.35 2184.98 Probably not. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2190.12 2192.51 We can just email if we need other 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2190.35 2190.67 Mm. 
EN2002d H03 MEE073 2192.17 2192.42 Yeah. 
EN2002d H02 MEE071 2192.66 2192.96 Mm. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2193.62 2193.98 Hmm. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2195.89 2196.64 I guess. 
EN2002d H01 FEO072 2201.8 2202.21 Okay. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2202.81 2204.03 Hooray. 
EN2002d H00 FEO070 2207.62 2207.85 Okay.