Year: 1872

General. I pledge you my life you are safe; of what are you afraid2 Cqekise. I do not eat meat. | GeaernI There is coffee ard sugar for you. Cqchiss do not know the talk of yes terday and do not know what you have said.

 Generdl did not say a word, waited for you.

 Crctise. am glad to talk to you and would talk to you all day if possible. l General. 1 want you to come down to town. l Caclise would rather talk on the top of q mountain than in town. General and Col. Pope. We both promise you that you will be safe in town. Cdchise. Women and children may sleep in the corral but I have been used to go where pleased; this country was once full of Apaches, they have been crowded out by the white men, so that there are but few of us, so that there is no room for us here. General. l want to put you in a place where the white man cannot put his foot. Canhse Why can we not have all the mountains among which we talk they be- long to us General. These are the words of the great father, I cannot say more (here followed some conversation in Spanish between the General and Cachise). 1 Cachise Ny country is full of gold and they are building towns and driving my peo- ple off and have to kill coyote for food

 General. (Aside) Such is destiny!

 CachiSe The people who come to this country find gold and get rich and then con- plain if get a horse.

 General. Let us get ready to go to town and your people may camp where they want to.

 Caeaise My people have come up here but they have not stolen anything; they have been others who have done it. General. The government understands this and for that reason they have fed and clothed you, and they want you to have a place where bad men cannot come and where you can have place to live.

 Cdchise. There are plenty of Apaches who are at war and who are killing off the people,; this must look strange to you, but they are not my people; I would like to go to them and tell them of what you said good.

 General. The great father will thank you very much if you will bring about such re- suit.

 Cachise. am living some way off because l find deer and 1 want to go among those people in the - will you give me a letter so that 1 can go2

 General. Yes, but you must not go with out authority for they will kill youif you do | want you to go down to town for Loco and Victoria are waiting for you.

 Cdchise. Sonora is not good country

 General. 1 want to go and want you to go with me-

 Cachise Will you let me send one of my men to town for cattle2

 General. It will look we'll to see us come together; the people will know then that all is right and good.

 Cdchise. Will you give my people some thing to eat if send them?

 General. Yes, but 1 want you to go and see my people2 I want you to ride down in in my ambulance.

 CachiSe When shall you go away from here ? Gen. Tomorrow morning, have to get corn and build houses and get things to eat at Tuarosa

 C. Will you take all your people with you7

 Gen. Yes.

 C. Why do you get up so often? What is that for?

 Gen. We are hungry and thirsty, we have nothing to eat or drink. 1 C. You have all been looking for me a long time, why don't you stay and talk2

 Gen. We want to go and have a talk all together. | Pope. We are here to have talk with all we want to have talk with Loco and Victoria and all the people. l Gen. We gave Loco and Victoria beef and l they cooked it at the soldiers fires. C. Can I cook where l want to. | Pope. Yes.