Year: 1873

threw up his hat and was forever afterwards
warm admirer OF the Father OF His Country GEN
eral Grant smokes, but IKE him nevertheless y
al INFER then. Mr. Haskell, that this third term
question is little out of your line just at this
time?v


"That's it exactly. don't think we ought to
waste much time in talking about II now.


1T REMINDS ME


OF what some OF the Massachusetts, soldiers did in
the early war. large battalion was sent from
the eastern to reinforce some troops in the western
part Of the state, and when they got little ways
out or Boston they halted to discuss theology, and
one whole day was consumed In debating whether
or not the Lord assembled with His clothes on.n


AFTER rev more remarks not bearing particu-
larry upon C9sarism, lett Mr.. Haskell alone in Eis
sanctum, promising to come around again in the
t6ought abont e,an,ny yesas a anu nna out wnas ne
time.
EDWIN b. Haskell, Of the Boston Herald.


Mr. "Ned' Haskell, the managing editor OF the
Boston Herald, was not in his sanctum when
called, but one OF the sub-editors told me that
would probably find him rusticating somewhere
among the White Mountains OF New Hampshire.
AS the information was somewhat indefinite con.
cuied TO wait few days until his return. The
rigid weather caused him to linger among the
hills only few days, and he was among the influx
OF discouraged and disgusted tourists who came
down on the afternoon train yesterday imme.
diately called upon the distinguished journalist and
accomplished orator at his palatlal residence III
Chelsea. He had removed the dust of travel, par
taken OF an evening meal and was at the moment
OF my calling indulging IA la Grann In a fragrant
Havana upon the veranda OF the mansion.


The object OF my visit having been concisels
stated, Mr.. Haskell proceeded to express not only
his willingness to be freely interviewed but de.
cla2ed with much enthusiasm his anproyal OF the
HERALD's idea IN getting the views OF the journal
lists OF the country upon a question OF such grave
Importance. 'During my absence from editorial
labors for the past few days" he observed al have
given this third term question more consideration
than when was In the harness over In the ONCE"
al take it, then, you are not one of those who
sink the shop when you are or on vacation s''
observed inquiringy.


"Generally speaking do; but since have been
away to the mountains have had several Oppor-
tunities of


SEEING GENERAL GRANT, AND IN MEETING HIM


FACE TO FACE


could not help but think OF him as possible
not probabe-uture despot of the American peo-
pie. TO look at MIN he does not seem the hero that
he really Is Ispeak OF him as hero for consci-
entiousy believe him to be one. His career as a
soldier is too fresh in my mind to ignore the great
service which he has rendered all loyal Ameri-
cans"


.Yes, of course, but what do you think Of him as
President-as Chief Magistrate-as a ruler IN tlnes
OF peace9"


"There, now you are coming at it. like hard
questions like these. II you have ever read the
years you must have noticed tnat there have been
many Of mis- acts which have praised and many
which have condemned. The Boston Herald, as
you know, Is not party organ. but


and 1t discusses the acts OF public servants in
glad to see, is paper Of that description, and II
we had more Of them In the country political cor
ruption would be less unknown than during the
past few years. Grants reconstruction policy in
the South have freely criticised, and his milk and
water manner OF dealing with the noble red man
has frequently excited my indignation"


well, what have you ever found to admire In
his administrations"


business fixed up decently well, and, occasionally.
the financial policy OF his administration mas been
as near perfect as If had been running IT myself.
We won't talk now about the past Let US turn
atteAton to the pending questions OF the day."


1.-The matter OF his election to third tcrm has
attracted considerable attention lately" ] OBJ
served, ''and 1t Is upon this particular question
that would like to have you express yourself


eyes, suppose so,r smilingly "That HERALD OF
yours was the first to stir up the Cesarsm busi-
ness, ana looked upon 1t at the time as abOut
. AS HUGE A JOKE
as Wise's ocean balloon voyage. If the professor
finds that easterly current above shall be fearful
of q CRsarism current here below"
"But, Mr.. HASKELL thought from what you said
q few moments ago that Casarism in America was





Eyes, did intimate that, and you must rcmem-
ber that 1t Is not altogether impossible Wise
his crowd to go to London in a baIoOn.n


"Yet there are great many men who believe
seriously that the ocean balloon voyage Will be
successful aud also great many who believe that
1t is the intention OF Grant and his party TO cstab
lish political desp0tsm in America"


ut may be his purpose, but ! don't think he will
eyer To- s R s 70 nos se was to
is always thespoicy OF men in high Official positions
to distribute political patronage so itwi accrue
,asr nrrrah annA fan Ii ,nnv,
in the Senate, and Morrill, must be got out OF the
way somehow or other, and perhaps he may step
into the shoes of the late Chief Justice. But in all
this / don't see anything tending TO a future
despOtism, CRsarism or whatever you may call II.
l should not lear this, even IL Grant were elected
again. The people OF this country won't stand any
such nonsense"


But don't you think Grant is willing to serve his
country while longer Tor fifty thousand year2n


.sihat may all be; but what is the use OF begin
ming to borrow trouble about 1t now? II the people
want Grant for q third term, and ne Is alive when
the time cOIaes and willing to serve why, they will
IF THEY DON'T WANT GRANT THEY WILL


TAKE SOMEBODY ELSE,


and Ulysses can 60 back to Gaena, perhaps get
elected Mayor, and carry out his fond desire Of
eve ee w ,s Se
again. even If for no other reason than that there
are so many others who want the place.. Any how,
there Is no reason for worrying much about the
Presidential question either this year or next"


III remember right Mr. Haskell, there was
leader in your paper not long since, In which fears
of Cesarism were very seriously and boldly ex.
pressed.n


.If YOU read that article carefully you will notice
the fears expressed about despOtsm related to o
despOtisn OF the majority A great people, like
ours would not surrender its liberties 10 usurpel
or to General Grant, but we might sometimes yield
so far to the encroachments OF central power OF
he so far carried away by party spirit that we would
welcome some one to restore order ana carry 0ui
our IDEAS. despOtism Is always essentially OF the
same spirit. and the desp0tism OF majority Is al
WAYS easily conveyed to an agent. who then be.
comes dictator, The present phase OF the danger
In this country, you see, is


THE DEsPOTIsM OF A MAJORITY.
To carry out this purpose 1t has already violated
the constitution. 1t has packed the Supreme Court
and invaded the right OF the States. 1t has inter
iered in the local affairs OF States, and carried
elections by the free use of federal patronage and
federal bayOnets. But the people now are begin.
ming to wake up to the condition OF things. and
when the proper ume comes tney VIII oe neara Waae
herald


CAgsARIsM WILL NEVER CONE DURING THE PRESENT


GENERATION"


nd that all Mr. Haskeu had To saY ahQul