Year: 1873

Government with the Roman Catholic Bishops and into


vndicaton of the principle OF concurrent endowment
In the middle Of these negotiations he sad, In came Mr.
Gladstone with the policy OF con6scation The Roman
Catholics fell the trap. and lest sight Of university
education in the prospect Of destroying Protestant
Church But the country had had enough OF this policy
of conscation and vote he expected, would show
that 1t suffering the Inconvenience of safety. Mr.
Disrael concluded hie speech as follows:


confess that 1 was myself unwilling TO make this
question anything like struggle OF parties on the con
trary have endeavored to prevent it, but have been
hndered in that behest by the right honorable gentle
man. IL is the right honorable gentleman tMr. Glad
stone who has introduced much passion and 30 much
personal struggle po this question IL Is the right non


question somewhat abstruse and complicated In It's ma
ture commenced his harangue by saving that 1t was
OF his Government That was, in my opinion, most
unwise declaration. ! hope that the right honorable
been made in the course of this debate and that he is
what intemperate No wishes to disturb the right
honorable gentleman IN bis place He came INTO once


do not wish that he shall ever have say that he has
not had fair trial for his policy Let the country and
the House fully comprehend all the bearings OF the pol
icy OF the night honorable gentleman. But Sir although


have not wished TO make this party question al
though have wsh certainly. 10 disturb the right
honorable gentleman IN his seat; although have had
communication with any section, or with any party
but my immediate colleagues, must do my duty when


am asked do you or do you not approve of this meas
slider to be monsrous both in principle and detail and
utterly futile as piece OF practical legislation


Loud long-continued applause marked the cOnolu
sion OF Mr.. Disraelis speech, and this was hnaily
mingled with the cheers from the Ministerial benches
which welcomed the appearance Of Mr. Gladstone at the
table. The Premier began in a manner more hurried
and mphac than his habit when entering upon what
is intended to long and great oraton He remarked
that twothrds OF the speech just delivered had no con-
nection with the bill, and drew down loud cheers by
calling the House TO note that, though Mr.. Dis
raeh had declared concurrent endowment TO be
dead it yet lived In his mind, and
might revive under his magical touch. The
attitude taken by the Government in reference TO the
BILL was what had happened during the last three
years Mr.. Fawcetts BILL Mr.. Gladstone said lie de-
precated sincerely the introduction of religious heat and
party temper into the subject feeling convinced that 1t
must insure failure, and this led him to animadvert
sharply on the tone Of Mr. Horsmans speech. He re-
peated once the grounds which the measure had
been introduced-the grievance OF the Catholics, and
the necessity for Academic Reform in Ireland.


To any one with an eye for situation Mr. Gladstone
said the history of bill had dramatic features
He admitted that it had suffered catastrophe; on its
introduction all the walters Providence" in London
were favor of it, not an individual OF the species
had word to say for il. But now the question was,
shall the House 90 into Committee on the bill In de-
Gliding that the House ought to have no other motive but
TO endeavor TO do that which few years hence II





the reasons given why the House should not 80 into
Committee Mr.. Gladstone denied that the Bin
would lower the standard OF education. urging that
the London University-a mere examining body-had
certainly raised education The opposition In Ireland
had been exaggerated and msrepresented but in deal
ing with measure like this 1t would be impoitc and
unparamentary on that account to withdraw the bill
before 1t had been considered in committee The general
effect OF Mr. Cardwes speech he entirely indorsed that
the House should 90 into committee 10 compare opinions
on all the divergepces of views which had been ex-
pressed; and he retorted Mr. Dsraei that the ex-
perience of his Reform bill showed how effective an
instrumen committee may be for Transforming bill.


On two of these pointsthe banishment OF Ethics and
Modern History from the curriculum and the ntroduc-
ton OF collegiate members into the Counc1-Mr GLAD
stone stated distinctly that he woud not adhere 10 the


and with regard the Others, he said generally that
the Government would not stand on its dignity, but
would meet the House equal terms. 1t would well
come any amendments which were improvements,
and even those which were not improvements
they wOuld accept If the House should de-
sire so long as they did not impair the vitality
OF the bin Answering the question so often raised
what the vital principle OF the b-Mr Gladstone SAID
there must he complete removal OF the admitted reu-
cous grievance by opening degrees under an impartial
and unsectaTan authority TO men OF all opinions whether
educat4d under the mixed separate system The Uni
versity must be relieved from the monopoly of Trinity
College and must have an independent Governing
Body and a competent endowment; and the bacmty
Of Theology must be separated from IT, After some OBJ
seryaous in condemnation of the principle Of con-
current endowment. which gave him the opportunity
of pacng on record his belief that IL would be serious


error IN give the slightest 20 system Of
seDarate endowment Ireland reversing the policy OF
1sGo Mr. Gladstone earnestly entreated the House TO
meet the threatened agitation by removing the grew
ance rather than follow Mr.. DisraePs alternative OF
withdrawing from the task Finally in discussing the


otrhto mil o.
mentary concord of the Tory party and the Roman Cath
ocs MI. Gladstone said


hone this House OF Commons which has successfully
orappled with the difficulties Of the Irish Church and
the Irish Land questions win not allow itself to be led
into An abandonment Of its present task But the
division about be taken viii not only oe "atcheo auo
examined, it will be remembered ana judged lhe
narty which is called the Tory party powerful as sltls
in this House is not powerful enough to give effect TO
,,s ,,isbes nv a majority; but there Is the hope
that BY the acquisition OF those VINO thinK
,ye cornmit q gross injustice in declining
70 give separate religious endowment tne
Roman Catholics, that minority may be conVeFte"
into majority and the bill may be rejected is that
saf foundation on which build the hope OF future
nopers Do not let il be supposed am casting stigma
on the votes of those who on tins occasion urge the
ponan Catholic demands. IL will ever be grateful
recollection OF my public life to have been united WIN
them I'm honorable cooperation for purposes on WHICH


We were both agreed; but the relation OF ths ooVern


ert N those honorable members never was built Oh
she sandy foundation of their aGsdenta concurrence IN
the cry of NAY" to measure Oh
the essential merits Of which they were
entirely disagreed. Because the bill detaches ana
emancipates the University of Dublin from TRINITY oor
leoe and claims for the whole Irish nation ana he


hydren the Conservative party oppose this measure
Cncord no doubt there will be in the lobby but Tor
how many momentsi Concord winch begins with ihe
crv of "Nay" and ends when the telers come 10 the
90 ,bo Marty of Office. i see the re-