Year: 1872

General Whipper-Yes, I think they would.
From my knowledge of Mr. Greeley 1 don't
think he will ever 60 back on the negro. l
like his letters of acceptance; they are able
papers, and l do not think there is anything
Objectionable in the Cincinnati platform, and
if he remained governed by these and not by
the democrats, who would swarm around him
the next four years, his administration might
be as peaceful, happy and prosperous, and
perhaps, more so than any we have ever en-
joyed.


II see it mentioned in the newspapers that
there is probability of Mr.. Sumner coming
down here to canvass the State for Greeley:
Do you think he would exercise any decided
influence among the colored people in favor Of
Mr.. Greeley?"


General Whipper-I hardly think he would:


"The man that has done so much for them :"


General Whipper-Yes; in the present
condition of affairs it would be useless and &C
tually ridiculous for any one to appeal to the
colored people here to vote for Mr. Greeley,
and 1 should be sorry, for Mr.: Summers sake,
if he did come here with that purpose. l
have the highest regard for Mr.. Sumner, and
fully appreciate how deeply indebted my
race are to him. If he came here he would
only be mortified and perhaps disgusted, and
I hope he will have better sense than to risk
either indignities or insults being offered him,
for possibly both might occur.


"Does it not seem as if the colored race
were unfit to exercise the rig ght of suffrage in
dependently when they unanimously refuse to
vote for Greeley, or to follow the advice of
such man as Summer"


General Whipper-No, it does not. On
the contrary, it shows that they do exercise
considerable degree Of independence when
they solidly oppose the two men whom they
know to be their greatest benefactors. Every
allowance must be made for their ignorance
and lack of experience, and also on account
of their peculiar relations to the white people
here They feel grateful to both Mr.. Greeley
and Mr.. Sumner, but they deem it their duty
as Republicans to support the Philadelphia
nominees in the coming campaign.


"Would it not be better for your race to
divide their votes between the two great po-
litical parties of the country, and thus make
each as much interested as the other in the
maintenance and protection oftheir rights and
privileges?"


General Whipper-Yes, I think it would;
but it will be years yet before such great
change as that can take place, on account OF
the existing prejudices of both races in the
South, which time only will ultimately oblit-
crate.


"Are the white people in this State gener-
ally disposed to accord the negroes their full
rights and privileges as guaranteed by law ?"


General Whipper-Well, can't say they
are They have not arrived at that stage of
Republican progress yet. Ostensibly they
would now but in various ways, particular
" in the Courts colored men would not have
Justice done them, and hence they would be
deprived of their most vital right 1t is rare
that you can punish white man for an Of
fense against negro; but let negro come
before white jury in the State Courts charg-
ed with crime or misdemeanor against a
white man, he is sure to be punished accord
ing to the fullest extent specified by law. ,


"Do the negro juries not retaliate in kind
when white man is on trial before them, no
matter what the charges may beT


General Whipper-No, they do not. Their
susceptibilities are more easily influenced,
their sympathies are stronger and their pas
sions more easily excited. Hence they can be
prevailed upon by expert counsel very often
in cases where they should not. l do not know
of single case where a colored jury rendered
q partial verdict on account of either politics
or color. The mass of them are honestly dis
posed to do right if they only knew how, and
whenever perfect confidence exists between
them and the white people they will be found
to be as good citizens as the Republic boasts Of.


"What do you suppose there is in General
Grants record that commands such intense
admiration, such implicit devotion, on the
part of the negroes"


General Whipper-There is nothing in
General Grants record politically to COM
mand their friendship. There is where the
great mistake is made when making compari-
sons between Grant and Greeley in connec-
ton with the negro vote. It is not Grant as
a man or politician they are so devoted to,
but it is Grant as the suppressor of the ku-
klux and the nominee Of the party to which
they are indebted for their freedom, enfran-
chisement and all other political rights and
privileges.


"What do you think will result from the
bolt just made from the Republican conven.
tion?'


General Whipper-Well, it is impossible
to say. They have everything on their side,
no load of fraud and corruption to carry, and
I think if they nominate good, straightfor-
ward Republican ticket they can carry the
State handsomely in October. The people
are clamorous for reform, and they will be
eager to vote for any other Republican ticket
than the oGe with Franklin j. Moses, the cor
ruptionist, at its head.


"Will the bolt have any effect in favor of
the Greeley movement"


General Whipper-not the slightest what
ever.


The last reply of General Whipper was
pronounced with such marked and decided
emphasis that, finding there was no chance of
gaining any expression from him in favor of
the Sage of Chappaqua, I wished him good
morning as he entered the doors of the Boil
ter's Convention


FORTY MILES OF HoRsE-RIDE IN Two
HoURs-The announcement that Chan Ritz
ker, better known as the "California Boy"
whose wonderful performances in the saddle
have won for him wide celebrity, would ride
fifty miles in three hours, drew quite fair
number of ladies and gentlemen to the Ham.
tranck Race Course Saturday afternoon. To
enable the young horseman to execute his ar
duous undertaking, dozen fleet California
ponies were in waiting near the grand stand,
thus enabling the rider to change horses at
the end of each mile. Mr.. Reticker has up
ward of thirty of these ponies, all selected for
their speed and bottom, which he takes with
him wherever he goes; but it was not neces-
sary to bring them all into requisition for this