Year: 1872



 Papago Indians with the Apache

 Indians at Grant. CONTINUED FROM LAST WEEK.

 Santos (Apache Chief said as far as they were concerned, there would be no trouble. That there were bad h. dians roaming through the mountains, and committing depredations, was no fault of theirs.

 General Howard said he did not wish them (the ones with whom he was treating) to be fired upon by mistake.

 Eskevanzin did not want the h. dians in the mountains to do any more mischief, and if they did. he was ready to go with the soldiers to help chastise them.

 Jesus Maria Elias was now invited to come forward. He wanted Eske- vanzin to understand that he spoke at the request of Gen. Howard and Gov. Stafford, and that he spoke for the whole Mexican people. The time had come when Eskevanzin and his people must recognize the natural, light of the sun and moon. The time had now arrived when they must not hide in the mountains and caves. They must come out into the plains and travel by the highways to where they want ed to go. They must be careful to obey the orders of the general and of- ficers placed over them. This would be for their welfare. They must not believe that the Government, which is over him as well as over them, did not possess the power and soldiers and money, to compel their obedience. The Government can place @ soldier on every stone and surround and de- stroy them. But 1t does not want to harm a child.

 Eskevanzin said they had talked Sufficiently of peace. That, which vElias was saying, looked as if he was trying to intimidate them.

 General Howard told him, that if he had come to intimidate him, he would have come with large army. ! Some time ago he had had an army of &O,000 men under him, and could have sNch an army again.

 Eskevanzin responded, that he knew Cd neral Howard had no intention to intimidate him but he thought Elias hAd.

 r Mir. Elias said if Eskevanzin had Awaited until he had got through, he would not have thought so. Had he not told Eskevanzin and Capitan Chi quito that the Government had the power to destroy them all; but that 1t did not want to do so; but wanted to save them, and have them live as other people lived The people in this Territory, Americans and Mex jeans, told the Government that the Apaches had killed their fathers and brothers, and had stolen their property, and that they desired to make cam paigns against them and be revenged upon them. But the Government al- ways said "no" that it would ar range tEis matter. The time had now arrived when the Government could carry out its desires. It would gather the Apaches all together and put them where they could be cared for; and not single child should be lost. The Government had means to support them two, three or four years; and there would be no necessity on their part to go anywhere to look for sub sistence. It was a matter of no con- sequence for the Government to spend money in supporting them, until, and to the end that they might become civilized, and learn to live by their labor and come to know the lnatural light. This was the last he nd to say. They were now all friends. If the Apaches desired to visit the citizens they could come. But they must be careful to commit \no depredations on the people of the Territory; if they should, their trails would be followed and 1t would be fixed upon them. If any trails were found crossing the Reservation. the Apaches on it would be asked to help follow them. Eskevanzin an- swered Yes.

 General Crook than spoke: He said that last summer he went out to Camp ! Apache, and there got friendly h. diens to assist him in fighting the h97 ile ones. After he had killed a few the Government stopped him. Y had been out all winter, he Vuld have killed A. great many by