Year: 1873

IciOrIn ana pure governments. The en0 OI
Grantism would be like the downfall OF the Tam
many klng, but on larger scale, for believe that
ultimately the wrong would be righted and the lost
hoers'es OF tne people restored to them.
Mr.. Theodore TiltOn, of the Golden Ago.
Mr. Theodore Tilton was found at his house in
Livingston street, brooklyn. A reporter OF the
HERALD called uDon him In the evening and found
him In his study busly engaged in writing. Mr..
T1lton conducted the reporter to an easy chair,
seat In which was accepted, and Mr.. Tilton
stretched himself out on the lounge. Thus pre-
pared in bodily comfort the pains and perls OF an
interview were encountered and overcome.


"Mr. Tilton, have called to ask you to give to
the HERALD your views in reference to o third
term, and the great topic Of the day, 'C9sarlsm."


II AM IN FAVOR OF ONE TERM.n


my views are pretty well known as to that; I
have written and spoken long ago in favor of q
oneterm principle. On that point thoroughly
agree with Mr.. Sumner. l have, however, views
in reference to this that are thought to be some
what peculiar. l think the Presidential term
should be five years. that the Presidential election
should occur at half decades: that Is. that there
should be, for example, Presidential election in
1875 and another IN $780, That there should also
be law prohibiting re-electlon."sa


"ln what do you TANK consists the value OF the
decade principle 2" inquired the reporter.


HALF DECADE FOR A TERM


~ think we should get the people famiiarized
with the time o. the recurrence OF the Presiden tal
election, and that as we have adopted the decimal
system in our currerc, and found it easy of COM
putatiOn, 80 we might as easily be able TO compute
the Presidential period. regard the Presidential
election as q great educator OF the people. The
people in this country are so absorbed IN material
pursuits, In money making and III occupations
that are 80 essentially personal, that 1t Is only the
stimulates them to the active consideration Of
political questions Therefore, because regard
that election as great educator In politics,
nvV1h hrv1o oka a m r a
and would give TO 1t also tile stimulus OF eecting
different citizen for President on the recurrence


THE CHANCES OF GRANTS REFLECTION.


ri need scarcely ask .yeu. after that, II You are
opposed to the reelection Of President Grant; but
chances Of his reelection"


u am very glad that this question Of C@sarism,
as 1t is called or third term discussion has been
originated. / never thought, until lately. that
there was any seriousness In It, The talk about 1t
has, however, developed the fact that there are re-
publicans, who are not flce-h0lders, who cOntem-
plate with seriousness the reelection Of Grant Tor
the third term. A friend OF mine whose position
South, told me, only few days ago, that the South
mean to re-eect Grant: MY FREUD, 1t Is true, Is
warm supporter OF the administration, and
thought his zeal had Outrun his knowledge, but, on
further questioning, found 1t was not So he spoke
seriously, and wnen you remember that the ad-
South such remark has great iorce.5


THE POWER OF THE ADMINISTRATION TO RE- ELECT


ITSELF.


"Do you think the administration can elect for
the Presidency any one whom 1t decides up0nS"


"The President and his party have great control.
ling power in the Presidential election and can no
doubt reseat itself IN tine government II 1t 50 Wills
l had personal evidence OF that In New England
during the last Presidential campaign. 1t has
65, QUO office holders, who do its bidding unhestat
ingly and without scrIple. In addition to this
personal agency 1t has unlimited funds at its COM
mand. 1t can do as it did IN the last campaign
send the Postmaster of some small New England
town, with a wagon and TWO men, through his dis
trict, distributing campaign documents IN favor of
1 70 donn n of n
effectual at the last election"


''But what will the great republican party say to
q proposal for the reelection Of Grant, do you
REPUBLICANS OPPOSED TO THIRD TERM FOR GRANT.
'srhere are three years before US. It is not easy
to forecast the future as to that AS far as my
knowledge extends am OF the opinion that ln1u-
ential republicans, men on whose judgment the
country could rely, are opposed to third term.
They think that Grant does not desire 1t, and until
recently have not entertained the suggestion Sc
riousy. In this think they are mistaken. said
to gentleman at Long Branch who asked me this
very question, DO you think Grant is anxious
about third terms' that thought Gant's anxiety
Major Bundy, OF the New York Evening


Mail.


Grant Not Dangerous Man-Patronnge
a Source of Weakness-Our Army Sys-
tenn Respects Law, Not Men-Public
Opinion Not Yet Ripe.


Major Jonas NJ. Bundy, editor-in-chief OF the
Euening Mail, was found In the office Of that jour-
na busy the midst of his editorial duties. After
the reporter had stated to him the object of his
visit Major Bundy settled himself more comfortably
in his leather cushioned chair and adjusted his eye
glasses ready for the ordeal unusual to a news
paper man, Of 'being interviewed" The following
dialogue then ensued:-


REPoRrER-Major, snail first ask you in
stereotyped phrase What do you think about the
third term agitaton9


AN IMPRACTICAL QUESTION.


Major BUNDY-Wel, l think that 1t is certainly q
very good question TO dscuss-tne question of a
third term-but one which is yet scarcely practi-
cable. When the people, as now, have nothing
else in the political category to talk about any dis
cussion that will disturb the national habits of
thought that are too apt to fall into straight and
rigid grooves Is useful. There is at least no harm
in IT, and think much good.


REPoRTER-How do you look upon the rumors OF
approaching Casaric despotismS


Major BUNDY-I don't believe in any analogies
drawn from Roman history which compare this
epoch of our Republic with the last OF the Latin Re.
public. II any American President should attempt
to usurp power not c0nstitutionally appertaining
unto him he would be summarily taken care OF by
the first mob that could reach him. 1t would not
require any uprising of the people. His functions





fined. The President in fact and in reality has no
power whatever, except so far as he represents
and follows the best public sentiment.


REPoRrER-But cannot such man as Grant, with
his military preudices his strong will and tenacity
Of purpose, easily create power, OF which he is
the central motor, In the midst OF an unsuspectng
and confding people, who have not yet felt the
bitter treachery OF ambition2


MILITARY EDUCATION AND CIVIL LAWS.


Major BUNDY-We have an army, and our officers
educated to give their allegiance to the law Of
the land. The whole tendency OF West Point
education is to create and foster respect OF the law
and the students there do not imagine themselves
servants Of any one, not even of the President.
In times OF peace even the General OF the Army has
to stick to law as closely any corporal orderly
in his rank, and no President could expect any
help from the army even II 1t took sides In the ag
tatl0n.


THE FEDERAL PATRONAGE AN ELEMENT OF WEAK.


NESS.


REPORTER-HOw about his control OF public senti-
meut tnrOulh the UatrOnaQe q ha Office