Year: 1873

intense
at time when the powers welded by Chief
Magistrate we e not tthe OF those he now holds
don't think 0ne-term President would act as no
New Orleans or would do what he has done In our
own Custom House here And II such things would
have been subject OF anxiety to the able minds
OF those days do not see why they should not be
viewed with equal apprehension now. Mind, do
not exactly anticipate coerciye subverslon OF
usurpatlon OF our government by an individual,
but through Just such measures as would achieve
grasped by large combination Of adherents Of
any party IN power and TINS leads me TO the oe"ei
that they should be closely scrutnized; 80.
REPORTER-DO you not think. Mr.. Brooks' tnAs
the whole growth OF


has in late years tended in the same directon-A
mean with reference to the consultations anu aD-
sorptions OF private corporations so as to attain
the magnitude Of gigantic monopollesf
MIR. BRooKs-I do In large measure but must must
say here that do not think that, 80 far as these
should be repressed. They should rather be regu-
lated, watched, placed under ample restriction.
harm, would In no wise limit their power for good
This was always o matter or deep concern Win
n w9S 1en an win II hs an Intimate ms
friends But to return more closely to the Original
subject OF conversation: think such thing as
THIS SALARY BUSINESS
| would never have resulted under one-term sys:
tenn. No President but second term one would
readily seen in the thea acton Of Congress in the
back pay aiiair-they had precedent and READY


REPoRrER-Have you any idea that there is any
man in America who, in the face or our 4O 900 0Oo
mehts


Mr.. BRooKs-while do not think it likely. J
do not doubt what the result weuld be but we do
not want even the attempt. And it IS to guard
funess Should De exercised in regard to the CON
ferring or assumption OF power. AS the OppOr-
tunitles grow before the mind OF an ambitious man
ne may be led to do that which at another time
HE NEVER DREAMED
Of and not altogether even with personal motives
hE xuafh ilfa lion a a w
the public benefit that he should 80 exercise hS nnu-
ence and will. In regard to the lengthening OF tho
Titles, must say that have found rapidly
/ growing dislike among the people OF these fire.
ali commercial interests and there are thousands
OF people who would almost prefer 0 permanehe
four years. i have heard people express the belief
that an enlightened ogarchy would, IN their opin-
ion: be preferable to tins system OF periodicaV
This closed the interview, substantially; ana.
thanking Mr.. Brooks Tor his patience and courtesy,
the reporter withdrew.


Mr. Hugh Hastings, OF the New YorA
Commercial Advertiser.
No Danger OF Grant Becoming u Caesar
Andy johnson .sthe Frightful Ex-
ample'-NOthing Would Be Left OF
Grant II He Tried 1t.


Mr.. Hugh Hastings, editor and proprietor OF the
Commercial Advertiser, sat in his office writing
some letters in hurry preparatory to taking the
boat to Long Branch, when the HERALD reporter
was ushered into his sanctum. On hearing the
reporters mission Mr.. Hastings said, with great
cOrdiality:-


s'Sit down. take chair and I'll tell you what !
think of this subject. But, first OF all, what do you
want to knOw9"


"Your opinion OF what has OF late been called
Cgsarism, or, IN other words, OF the third term
principle"


Mr.. HAsTINGs-To me all this discussion is to-
tally unnecessary ana actually without weight.
hold that IL the people want General Grant for
third term they VIII have him. Ifthey don't they
will put him out. 1t Is In the nature of our peo-
pie, it Is in the nature OF our government, not to
suffer Tor one moment man In power whom they
do not want. IL would be the height Of folly for
President like Grant, popular rs he has shown him.
sell to be- to endeavor to advance himself at tho
expense Of our institutions His popularity, his
power would disappear


LIKE CHAFP BEFORE THE WIND.
We have good enough example, 1t seems to me,
in Andy Johnson. When he attempted to run
against the will OF the people see how Congress
up and tied him so, hand and foot, that he was
Just as powerless in his high position Assist
ant Alderman in this city.


"But then," ventured the HERALD reporter,
'Johnson went back as it were, on his own
party"





doing the same thing should he decide to go against
the will of the people? Andy Johnson was elected
by the majority, and yet 1t was this same majority
that corked him up was 1t nots When he grew
erratc and went against the will OF those who
elected him he was made to feel how utterly pow
erless he was. The man who does this In such
q country as ours becomes


IMMEDIATELY NONENTITY.


His will is as nothing, and our own laws give m
the ways and means by which we can stop the course
OF sucn man at days notice."


kEPoRrER-But do you not think, in spite of all
this, that the third-term principle is vicious one
in practice and would be gradually introducing
system which IN the end might be prolonged indef-


MIR. HAsrrNos-No cannot look at this matter
seriously. l cannot Tor q moment allow that any
danger can threaten this Republic in sue man.
ner for the that have explained-that our
laws do not permit Its possibility. On the other


NO OBJECTION TO GENERAL GRANT


being once more or twice more President If the
people so please. SO long as they want MIN they
60. No amount OF terms can weaken the principle.
And II the people OF the United states really looked
at this matter serlousy-that is, in the light Of
Grant wanting to consolidate his own power-he
would be defeated in such manner that moth
ing would be left of him. l am republican, and.
but II | supposed he intended any such thing
would oppose him Immediately. only stand by
him as long as he does rignt-not moment
longer; and know that this Is the sentiment Of
all those who claim the slightest amount OF inde-
THE TENDENCY OF ALL OUR PAPERS
at present to be more or less independent. We
nave not at present any partisan papers, as we
understood the word in the olden time. Even the
paper which pretends TO be the chief organ OF
Grant and the government does not spare censure
occasionally so IS to give IL an appearance OF I'M
paTtality. l think this discussion OF C9sarsm by
the HERALD at the present time is wise, 1t IS
continuation Of the system Of the elder Bennett
filing up q lul IN politics. IL makes people talk
aoout Ciesarism and it makes them talk about the
HERALD. All the country papers IN the land are ar
present filled with the HERALD. But still can see
nothing serious in the discussion because know
that 1t Is not consistent with the opinion OF the
country that any such thing should take place as
is threatened.


REpoRTER-Do you mean TO say that 1t is impos-
sble General Grant should be re-eectedg


Mr.. HAsTINGs-I do not say that; think It pos
sble and even probable but deny its possibility
II the people do not wish II So General Grant was


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