Year: 1875

cew and TO discover the whereabouts or the
fugitive The Sheriff and his assistants also doing
their best to discover the hiding place OF the
exBo Tho facts continually coming to light
MS hour by hour passes indicate that the
theory advanced by the HERALD is the true one
namely, that Tweed is either in New York city
or its immediate vicinity. All the information that
be CLEANED clearly points in this direction and that the
fallen chieftain can hope much longer to eude cap
ture is very doubtful unless he has simply retired from
his seml-captvity at Ludlow Street Jail to as
sumo more advantageous position from which
TO negotiate a compromise, as well as TO secure
revenge upon some of his former companions, who
have of late to the vernacular ''gono back on
him" This is the view taken by many high and prom
inent politicians and that it is probably
every circumstance that has happened during the past
few days is evidence


The opinions of the existing condition OF affairs OF
Hon Thurlow Weed and County Clerk Walsh, which
herewith given will be found OF peculiar pernencc
and interest at this moment


THURLow WEEDS VIEWS


HERALD reporter last night called upon Mr. Thur
low Weed at his residence and held extended con-
vcrsation with him in reference to the flight of William
M Tweed In answer TO some preliminary questions
Mr. Weed said


'The presumption is strong, even II the fact be not
assured, that Mr. Tweed has not left the country
and indeed, that he is not very far away
from us That no remains near by to negotiate
more effectively outside jail than in II, very
strongly convinced The HERALD am convinced, is
right in this regard might say more did l deem IL
wise at this particular time"


The conversation then continued as folows:-


"Mr. Weed any information which you may be able
to give to the public through the HERALD will be
highly appreciated -


81 aware Of that and wish to make IL clear to
myselfjust how far ought to go-that is the pres
ent time"


"Well, Mr.. Weed go just far as you can no man
can have higher appreciation than you have OF just
how much the public has right TO know to the
isting conditions in the Of the fugitive Tweed"


'Well concerning his retirement from Ludlow street
Jail simply for advantageous position for ne
gotiation for himself and perhaps, somo Of his
former friends, l would say, now, SIM
ply, that during Mr.. Tweed's involuntary
residence the Island Imprisonment there is called
called him three times You will understand that
did not go there to him without hope Of ben
eft to this city growing out of my visit nor did 60
without consultation with others Let think for
moment how far am at liberty to speak of that y


with whom did you consult'n


II consulted with the Mayor OF this city and also
with the Governor, had come TO know the latter
very well, having met with and conversed with him
often and feeling that had come to know some
the government had TO contend in this
case, thought might perhaps, be able to simplify
the interests Of the public AS result OF such con-
sutatons visited MI Tweed at his island residence,


"we, what were the particulars and result OF your
conversations with him2n


THAT is exactly what ! am hesitating to tell You
about, until the present condition OF Tweed, and the
reasons therefor are better known from others than
from myself


well do your best in the interest OF the public
Mr.. Weed"


That is just exactly what proposing to myself
10 do You see unless developments should clear the
way for me to speak fully in that regard not feel
that ought TO do SO; for, you must understand my
conversations with him we're to degree coutdentiaI
and II is only because that the HERALD has
information involving in some degree the object of my
visits there, that am led to feel that free to say
anything about them at all !"


"How far can you speak OF what occurred without
sacrihcing anything of what you consider due Mr.
Tweed, who, as prisoner, talked with youfn


"Wel, let me see You say that IT is reported that
MIR. Tweed dissatisfied with the way in which he
has been treated by somo in both parties, who
worked with him in his erroneous career has
determined to make clean breast oft far as him.
self and themselves arc concerned provided he can
freedom from persecution for himself and for
Bomo Of his particular friends Now that is very
likely. First let Lae say that feel certain that Mr.
Tweed has not gone abroad. Then have be.
heving that before making public declaration
OF all the pecuares of the cases. with the conduct of
which the people have serious cause for complaint he
would insist upon seeing free from trouble his
count at least two OF his co-workers for instance
Woodward and-well, can't remember his name-but
another OF those who be supposed have acted
under his control and by his direction in much that
they did feel that have right TO say that Mr.
Tweed would not like TO see any or the relatives
any one suffer because Of following his direction while
occupying position toward him Of being subject to
his direction. Then, to others who were
with him when in success as you intimate
but who have been bitterly against HIM
since his fall, l think IL is probable that
he may have something to reveal concerning them,
should the negotiations now presumed to be under
way result satisfactorily to himself and friends How
ever, may say that in very few days. should mat
ters cuminate as they seem likely to do, shall
be aolc 10 give you more information Of IN
terest in relation TO Tweed and his cases
than ! now feel at liberty 10 do Let me
say again in conclusion, however that feel that
tho HERALD Is right in believing that Mr. Tweed has
not gone abroad, am in full accord with the HERALD,
and there s very good ground for the suspicion that
Mr. Tweed has made his last strategic movement more
20 gain a commanding position for the protection OF
subordinate friends aud the punishment Of upgrateul
coadIutors than to get permanently away from home
friends and familiar scenes | think do not care to
say that am sure-that the HERALD is on the right
trail, and If all occurs that expect shall be pleased
in very few days to give all the information i nave
that the public can be Interested in knowing
ing Tweed The prospect 10 certainly good for addi-
h0nal information at an early day.


ANDREW H. GREEN'S OPINION


Comptroller Green said he felt that there must be
some foundation Tor the reports which had reached the
HERALD Office. Mr. Green remembered distinctly that
he had been informed by some gentlemen
who were apt to know that IL was not
likely that Tweed had yet left the country
and that attempts negotiation had been said to
have been made n was more than probable that Tweed





under stronger probabilities OF freedom, should he
~ desire, than he could have done had he remained
under care OF his friends in Ludlow Street Jail


How long since you received that information, Mr.
GreenYn


~ should say about week ago, but gave the in
formation very serious attention at the timc.n


"Havo you any definite information TO the progress
Of negotiations since the escape q fwecdr'


~ have not II had would give 1t to you eagerly
! only know that was informed that 10 secure
suitable place for effective negotiation had been Tweeds
chief object in retiring from Ludlow Street jail Now
that hear what the HERALD tells me feel moro
certain than before that what heard had respect
able foundation In truth or tho progress Of negota-
tons, however, know nothing, nor do know OF a
certainty that they have as yet been commenced,
though, should they reach given point l shall ex-
,pect TO be informed Of their progress At present,
however, know only what have told you, and that
is in condensed FORM that Tweeds escape
OF flank movement for compromise than with a view
30 permanent escape


County Clerk Walsh being visited said 81 have
not heard that Mr. Tweed proposed to make e1post
OF those who were connected with him in any way as
regards the crime charged against him. But think u
would be perfectly Justhable in fact II would be more