Year: 1876

o What time IN the evening Il when you saw
this and glrlf A. IL was between SIX and seven


o What did the man say when you asked him wher,
he was eoingY A. He said that he was going 10 look
! for place for his cousin.


Q What did you say whom he told you he was going
70 look for place for his cousinf A. l laughed al
him. and said was not necessary for him TO be out
late in the evening TO look for a place for a girl


q What else occurred? A. told the girl she should
depend on me TO find her place, and asked her for
her reslaence she gave II 10 me, saying, My dear
man, you VIII be kind enough 60 TO No 80 Essex
street New York, on the third nOor;' spoke them
| N the German language am an Israelte and knew
that they were of the same belief


Was there no more talk between you? A. No;
.hen went on my way piece, and then turned round
10 see where that man wanted go with the girl at
tnat hour IN the evening; then saw that he went
back about one hundred yards and heard some kind
OF noise then heard the girl cry
AT this point Of the narrative the prisoners lips
parted widely and he showed all his teeth in most
CHASTITY attempt al humor as he leaned over and said
Q What did you do thenV A. went of and took
the cars and returned to my heme; the cry a
went toward, because ! have often passed IL; the
Monday following in Brooklyn, and the noise |
had heard in my head; / thought ought 10 do
something about It; on Tuesday i went about
my business and took toward Jamaica;
on the plank road ! waited ior some min
utes, when a man informed me that there was a
dead girl lying in the lot there went with Others
to where the body of the girl was lying she lying
on her back, with her hands raised and her
half open; when went to the jail 10 the prsoner
/ identified him as the man saw on the plank road
with the girl on Sunday December l2 / shook han Dis
with him ana asked II he did recollect seeing
on the plank road; he shook his head, and said, ~
don't know you any more'' ! am quite sure very
sure, the man saw at the Jail is the same man
A sEvERR CROSS EXAMINATION


Cross-examned by Mr.. Beach, am a licensed
pedler; by rade am tanner; have wife and keep
house; sixty years OF age on last Christmas; l
first talked with pedler named Solomon Goldstrom
about this circumstance; Godsrom lives at No 80
Essex street, the fourth floor; 1t was on Friday,
four or FIVE weeks ago, that told him.


Jacob Rubensein, brother of the prisoner, at this
juncture took seat by the side OF the counsel, and,


listening attentvey TO the responses OF the witness
given by the interpreter, frequently corrected the In
terpretations of the latter


Witness said-It was on Thursday, the day before
New Years, that told Mrs Goldstrom of the
renee; that the very nrst time spoke about IT.
there present on that occasion MRS Godstrom's
daughter and child of Nh Alexander (wtness then
accounted for his movements); never met Rubensten
in New York; had him often, but never knew who
he was; had met him peddling out around East New
York, but could not give any month place when
where meetings occurred; never met him in any
house, saw Rubenstein about ten O'Clock the fore
noon, on December 9, on n car out near Broadway
good way out from the city, while going to East New
York; was in the car good half hour; it about
nine O'Clock in the morning when he got OF witness
asked TO describe the passengers who the
car at the time and he did give the attire Of several
saying IL was fashion he had OF notcngth the people
on the carsl the conductor who had on short thick
coat carried his money between his fingers, and asked
me whether had any buttons TO SELL said the wit
ness.


O. What you doing at Cypress Hills Cemetery
on December l2f A. There was funeral at the GENE
terry and requested 60 there; the funeral was
that OF poor man; don't know his name; there
holy man at the grave-nothing OF the kind; went
there a carriage Witness here corrected himself
saying IL a child who buried, and the father
was poor man. He rode in the carriage with the
father He was not acquainted with the other persons
who were in the carriage) do not know the number
of the house in Graham avenue from which the
riage left, but II a frame house in the rear the
front house was also frame the house is five or six
blocks from where live went there the invita-
tion of the father, who met me in the school, Johnson
street, corner of Even street, and told his child
was dead; he said Brother, my child is dead, - and
asked me TO come TO the funeral had worked with
this man before but did not know where he lived till
he told me- went home another route because II was
fine day, and walked because don't like riding;


left the cemetery before the carriage they were put
ing the child In the grave and washed my hands and
went away; that is the custom to wash the hands at
burial; going home took the road where there is a
bridge where they take the money; the only man |
met the road home that man pointing TO Ru-
benstein); met the tollman and went on further
till met that man there; had travelled that road
before often twelve O'Clock night; there are
buildings between the cemetery and the tolgate it
may have been fifteen or sixteen PAGES beyond
in the face; / the tolman in his room; a
wagon passing at the time; then saw girl with
the prisoner Witness then described the position OF
the houses the road that vicinity, becoming
what confused in his description


Q When you met the man and girl did they pass on


A. When we met they stopped; when they walked
away was toward the dollhouse; when l left
The cemetery il was between six and
O'Clock; the tolgate is about eight or nine
blocks from the cemetery: IL there
mel this man and woman; IL took about half an hour
to walk there, as | walked slow; did not carry
watch IL was quarter past four O'Clock when left
the cemetery; saw the clock IN the kitchen where
the lady lives that has charge Of the cemetery IL
between six and seven when ! met the lady and gen.
tlemen; i went and got glass OF beer at n saloon
after leaving the cemetery; remained some time in
the saloon, winch is right from the cemetery;
saw nobody but the who keeps the saloon had
frequently stopped there before but did not know the
mans name stopped there about quarter of hour
heading a paper; after passing the man and girl
I went straight home; there is house right across
from the place where ! met the man and woman |
asked the where he going this time In the
evening and he told get place for his cousin |
told him, so late in the evening you don't look a
place and ! told the girl to depend upon me and
would get her place and asked her to give me her
address; she said 'lf you will be kind enough you
will come TO No, 80 Essex street, up three flights Of
stairs )" she did not say


DEAR, GOOD NAN"


they then went on thought would see where they
would CO. turned round and saw the man getting
over a fence; when | walked back 100 PAGES heard
those cries, Fire hrep "Helpl hepl' then |
went homo didn't say before that walked straight
home can swear by God IN heaven that walked back
100 paces stood far enough away so that could hear
all the hallooing was good distance OF after speak
ing TO them when ! turned back TO see where they
Went; the tolgate was between me and the man when
/ saw HIM getting the fence; did not so back at
ali tMr Britton remarked that the witness meant
going back toward East New York;; did not hear the
expression my life Is gomez ala not see the man
after be got the fence nor did see the woman;
the walked over toward the corn hed, and then
walked away about my busincss had
got 100 PAGES away When saw tne nun
get over the fence; l was scared about getting
licked; you are not very safe in that part
of the country; If they get nybody out there night
they give them a licking; pretty nervous Kind
OF man; / the getting over the fence before


heard the noise; got home about seven O'Clock that
evening" thought some harm being done TO her,
but did not tn nix she being murdered didn't 60
into any house 20 tell them as the people were all
asleep scared 90 back alone; II had had some
one with me would have gone back; had met man
would have gone back again


o. why didn't YOU tell your wife about it, A. She
don't know anything about these things Uaughterl;
didn't tell any body Monday; the noise was all in
my head did not say anything TO anybody about IL
before Saturday, January I; viii swear before God
aud the synagogue did not mention 1t when saw
the BODY in the corn field because | poor man,
and had to 20 and get money for my rent and to
make my living; II was last Friday that l saw
Rubenstein at the jail


iourned tll ten O'Clock this morning


rs RuBRNsTKIN MRDITAIIsG sUTcipRY


II Is said that extra precautions are deemed neces-