Year: 1867

TwEsTERE ASSOCIATED PRESS REPoETs.l


NEW YORK, November 25.-A Herald
Havana special of the oath, says the OIL
cial burial returns show that one thou
sand and fourteen persons lost their
lives in the late hurricane at the Island
Of st. Thomas. We have the announce
n1ent from Santiago yesterday, that the
cholera reports from Havana were ere
ating considerable excitement and fear
there, so much SO that the Spanish
steamer Barcelona, from this port, was
forbidden to enter.


The Tribune publishes the testimony oi
Gen. Grant, Judge Chase and Secretary
Seward in the impeachment case. Gen.
Grant said I have seen the President
very frequently in reference to the con-
dition Of affairs in the rebel States.
When | was asked to be at Cabinet
meeting, it was because some ques-
ton was up in which, as General OF
the army, l was interested; am not
aware of any interview with the Presl-
dent on amnesty; l have occasionally
recommended persons for amnesty /
thought myself, at that time, there was
no reason because q person had risen 70
the rank of General he should be eX-
cluded from amnesty; there were many
who had failed to reach that rank; ]
spoke on that point; | did not see much
use for the twenty thousand dollar clause
these are the only two points that | re-
member to have spoken on at that time
I afterwards, however, told him that !
thought he was much more right on the
500, coo clause than l was; was present
when the proclamation was read IN Cab
met, but nv views were not asked;
never gave any opinion TO the Presi-
dent that it would be better at that time
to issue a proclamation of general am
nesty.


Question Did you ever give your opin'
lou to the President that his prOelama-
ton interfered with the stipuiatiOns be-
tween yourself and Gen. Lee2


AnsWer-No, sir; / frequently had tc
intereede for Gen. Lee and other paroled
officers, on the ground that their parole
so long as they obeyed the laws Of the
United States, protected them from ar
rest and trial. The President at that
time occupied exactly the other ground
viz: that they should be tried and pun
ished. He wanted to know when the
time would come that they should be-
punished. I told him not so long 81
thew obeyed the laws and complied with
the stipulations, That was the ground
took.


Questionable you not also insist thai
applied as well to the common soldiers


AHSCer-Of course it applied to every
one who took the parole. That was no
canvassed. Except in case of some lead
ers, claimed that in surrendering theil
arms they had done what a portion o
them could have escaped; btt they sur
rendered in consideration Of the fact tha
they were to be exempt from trial a
long as they cOnfOrmed TO the obligations
they had taken, and they were entitled
to that. Grant said that was his view
Still the President disagreed with him
He insisted that the leaders should b
punished, and was very anxious to know
when the time for their trial would come
Grant replied, when they violated thel
parole; but these terms did not apply Il
Mr.. Davis, as he did not take any parole
The President contended for the trial o
Gen. Lee, but Gen. Grant insisted that i
would be a violation of the parole. Gen
Grant had urged nothing, but had only
given his opinion when asked for it.