Year: 1874

have to apprehend in the future, we have
hundreds of millions of claims OF that klnd
presented or to be presented for payment


Reporter-What is your view regarding
reciprocity and the claims involved IN
that treaty?


Mr., C.EMy opinion is that we ought to
,belse care of eur own people the best way
<@e can. Whether we can make more Dy
The terms of that treaty or not do not
know. 1 am in favor of any reasonable
measure that will secure to us the opening
of the lake route, and theSt Lawrence route,
or even any reasonable concessions whereby
we can get permanent and ample
way out to che ocean for our products. 10
obtain this we can afford to make some sac
rifices. My opinion is we ought to take the
duty off the lumber. The lumber trade IN
stead of increasing itself is constantly de-
stroylng itself. We are continually dlmln-
ishing our supply of timber. ANY other
branch of trade builds up by means
of protection. / am decidedly in favor
of securing this outlet through the lakes TO
the st. Lawrence, through which the larger
class of vessels will have a right 10 pass.
This would be great advantage. Suppose
our vessels could land at Chicago, Mllwau-
Kee, Toledo and Buffalo and load and unload
their goods, it would be of immense Valae
to the country. And then suppose schoon-
ers and sloops could come down py
means of ship canal from Lake Michigan to
the Wabash river and load and unload their
cargos, that itself would almost solve the
question of transportation. BY that means
vessels could come down to Lafayette ana
Terre Haute, and load and unload in the
heart of our region of coal and iron. What
an enormous advantage such a system
would bel think that day is coming.
R.-General, how is that plan re-
ceived by congressman?


| Mr.. CA great many are in favor oil IL,
but il will involve a very laIge expense.
Little petty, local measures, or measures OF
| immediate Importance to the govern
ment, seem to absorb the attention OF the
members mainly, and if they can get them
| though they are satisfied. Not until the
demand for an outlet becomes universal In
this region and cOnsolidates the people
of the entire Mississippi Valley will any
thing be done that is substantial;
therefore regard the agitation OF
this question OF transportation as
largely beneficial in securing any
thing in that direction. This will tend 10
consolidate the efforts of the people through
out that whole extent of country in favor
of some comprehensive measure. The men
that are opposed to a Niagara ship canal,
| are the men living in New York and Buf-
falo, who are largely interested in other
outlets. But there is going to be enough
/ business tor them all.


r. What do you think are Gen. Grants s
cnances for a third term?


Mr.. G.. do not think with the present
feelings of the people on the subject of cur
rency that he could command a very large
vote in the region in favor of additional cur
rency. do not see how he could get any
majorities there. Regarding the talk about
his being candidate, do not know person
ally anything about it. Some Of the news
papers are favoring that project. NV notion
| is that it will be totally Ineffective and


should be abandoned. dc not think it will
| be seriously thought of. The sentiment OF
| tHo lie ico haf hirH h.
out any reference to his personal popularity,
or the success of his administration, think
the people are averse to the policy of the


two terms administration. L do not
think it will be a serious question


in politics. 1 do not think the people will


have to meet anything of that kind. Some


public men have been very appreheDsive OF


his desire to continue in power. Grant has


not been much of a political schemer. He


has rather seemed to evade political in


trigues, He has done some unpop-


ular things for one who wants


future nomination. That leads me to


thiuk that he does not. do not think Grant


can be seriouslyin anybody's way.


R.-What is your opinion regarding


Dawes retirement2


Mr.. CT know of fnothing in his action in


congress that would indicate that he mas


a distaste for politics. His recent candidacy
for senator shows that he had a desire tC


continue in public life. Whether he is un
popular in his district or not, he occupies


certainly very fair position in the House


and in the country. His long term in the
House has given him an enviable posi-
.tion, think it is more powerful than any


he could hope to accept in the senate any


time within his term of six years. If he de


sired prominence he has IL in the highest de


gree. He has got gift, and training anC


knowledge enough to be pretty formidable
in debate.