Year: 1874

toen or seventeen Gays, instead OF ten or eleven,
Is II should be.


HERALD CoRREsPoNpENT-what reason does Dr.
Seville, the Agent. give for not issuing sugar ane
bacong


RED CLoUD-He says that the rations are al
bought at one time for the year. and that they
have given out and we must wait for new appro-
priatlon. MY men do NOT understand that. and
think the Great Father would not keep then
without sugar and bacon II he knew it
The ration OF corn has been all right
For long time they used to deliver then
cattle without weighing them, and very small cat
tie; and when Commissioner walker came they
put up scales and began to weigh them. They
generally issue from three to four head OF cattle
every ten days to about 100 people. That, when
slaughtered by the heads OF families, only gives
them enough beef for four or five days. They got
more in the old Agents time.


HERALD CoRREsPoNDEST-Ask him how he liked
his visit to New York.


THE GREAT FATHERS GOOD PArrH


RED CLoUD-He was well treated in New York
saw q great many people. Sorry to have am
trouble with the white people, All the In
dams belonging to this Agency have been quiet
and done no mischief. The white men that have
died were killed by northern Indians, aud they
had also stolen some OF his ponies Anything the
Great Father had told him he always tried to do.
He told him farm, and his people are now farming
and growing corn. The Great Father gave him
forty-our ponies; but they were very wild ponies.
He has got seven now; seven ran away and the
rest were traded away by the Agent.


HERALD CORREsPoNDENT-Wha equivalent did
the Agent give him for the ponies he traded away7


RED CLoUD-Nothng am quite satisfied with
the land here, and wish to stop here There is not
much game here, but that does not matter. Some
years ago, across the Platte, there were plenty OF
buraloes but the white people come and settle ana
kill and drive the bufaloes away, and now, it does
not matter where one goes the game Is scarce. He
might as well remain where he is.


THE SUPPLY OF CLOTHING.


HERALD CoRREsPONDENT-Ask HIM II the last
issue Of clothing was atisfactory.


RED CLoUD-Last fall there was big issue or
clothing, but not enough for his people. The
bucks got one blanket piece and a few of the
squaws and many OF the young women and boys
and girls got nothing at all. Some time ago some
men come to me and bring me talk from the
Great Father They want to trade with me, and
offer goods to sign away the right to hunt bualoes
south Of the Platte. 1t is too soon to do that.
Ogallala, Brule and others have no place to hunt
buraoes unless they 90 south Of the Platte, the
northern Indians hunt the buffaloes on the Pow
der River and the Yellowstone. He thought It
would be better to put it on for little, and when
the young men got more settled down perhaps
they would sell the right.


''SOLDIERS SPEAK TRUTH"


HERALD CoRREsPONDENT-Ask him II he has any.
thing more to sayS


RED CLoUD-He is glad to see the man from New
York and the soldiers, as he thinks the Great
Father will then hear what he has got to say. He
tells the Agent some things and he goes to Chey.
enne and not any farther, and he does not think
the Grea, Father ever hears what he has to say.
He thinks soldiers speak truth; everything he tells
them Is told to the Great Chief. That Is good.


The conversation was then supposed to be ar an
end and / was getting up to bid the chief goodby
when the interpreter stopped me and said he had
something more to say.


THE MOVING OF THE SPOTTED TAIL AGENCY.


RED CLouD-It is not q good thing to make Q
new agency for spotted Tail, as he does not like II
and will, not 60 away TO new country. They want
to turn him out, and he does not like 1t, and his
Indians do not like 1t. We Indians have been born
and raised In this country, and we know where
the best land is and the Great Father told US to sc
and pick out the country we wished to live In, and
we did, aud we want to remain there. spotted
Tail does not want to move away, and If they move
his Agency he and his people will come down here
to live 1t would be better to make the two agen.
cies into one down here, and we would like
| man as trader-a man like Colonel Bull.
lock- who has lived among US for years,
and whom we know Will not cheat u.s.
If they let Spotted Tail live here his people can
farm all the way down the river. My people d.
not like the Rees and Yankton Indians going will
Custer to the Black Hills, as that is the country
OF the ORallaas.


THE DEPARTING.


Red Cloud then said that he had done, but woulc
like to talk some more again. We asked him II ne
could not get up an Omaha or lightning dance,
and he SAID he would consult with his people and
let US know. We then shook hands with the chief
and his family and rode back to camp.


The above conversation is very similar to one
held here a short time ago, when Bishop Hare DR..
Cox and Mr.. Hinman were present. The old cniel
appears pretty well satisfied with the genera
run OF things but evidently is anxious for new
AGENT and more regular distribution OF snpnlIes.