Year: 1877

ever hereafter) to attain that great end. The
gentleman with whom endeayored to make
the negation Il am happy to ssy) informed me
that our positions been reversed Qf he had
been IN my place and L in his) he would have
done precisely what did.


Q-The thing which he proposed to you was
that you should make the necessary negotia-
tions to get Wells aud the returning board to
give the state to Tilden. Is that it?


Ale informed me that Louisiana was GER
talnly Democratic by from 5000 to 10000 or
1000 votes, but that it would be counted for
Hayes by that returning board. He knew its
complexion. He had been acquainted with
Wells 2S years, he said, and with Anderson
nearly as long. To get them to do what was
right l assented to see these parties at his in
stance and endeavor to see if the negotiation
could be made


Q-In other words the object was to raise
money.


A-Most undoubtedly, not for myself, but for
this great object.


Q-And the money wal to be given to Mad
cox.


A-No, not to be given to him. A stake
holder would have been sent down.


Q-Wbo was to be stakeholder?


A-Fhat was to be determined by those aho
would supply the sinews of war


Q-Whom did you see in New York.


Al endeavored first to see MIR. Hewitt.
He was out of town that day, Sunday but a
note was sent in the evening that he had re-
turned and 1 did no. see him. Previously
saw ME- John Morrissey With whom had
some sllgnt acquaintance. stated these facts
to him. He said that while he had no particu-
lar compuLctloDs in paying man to do what
was light be did not feel that he was in that
necessity You must remember that this was
on SUNDAY and it was not in bar room. He
said he would buy these fellows as readily as


he would buy pigs, or words to that effect. 1


concided with him in the interest of 40 900 900


of people, but he seid that we all knew that


Tilden was elected and that he had just recelv-


ed, or the public had just received, information


from oregon which made it unnecessary to re-
sort to any such measure. That was about the
purport OF my conversation with Morrissey.
Odd you receive any money from him?
A.-Not any.


Odd you see Hewitt?
Ain the evening saw Hewitt and went
over the whole story to him, to which he listen
ed very patiently and kindly. I told him til at
while had beeu an attorney at law for a great


many years, and for ten or twelve years in
Washington. had never used dollar corrupt


ly and never expected to, but in this instance
felt the approval of my conscience upheld by
duty, in presenting the thing to him, and he
SAID, were our positions reversed he would have
done precisely the same. He said tn 1T this was
the third proposition of this kind that had been
made to him on the part of the returning board
in Louisiana, but that mine appeared the most
plausible and authentic, and that under no cir
cumstances would they entertain any such prop.
osition; that if We bought them row we would
have to buy them ever hereafter; that if the
country was going into civil war we might as
| well let it come ard be done with it, but he
had no apprehension of any such result, and
| the country knew that Tilden was elected
That was about the purport of our conyersa.
| tiCn.


said that had S55O,OOO; would lay down
| $500,000 which was the minimum pile these
gentlemen wanted, and be contented to live the
| remainder OF my days on $4,000, to live in
saek-cloth and ashes if necessary.
Q-Was anything said between you and
| Maddox as to how much of the money he
should have or how much you should have.
A-There was nothing said as to how much
be should have That was his affair." He
| said il succeeded in making the negotiations
he should see me handsomely compensated and


that l should have certain percentage. I said


1 would take money for would regard it as q


Spelling of the Egyptians aud would dis
| tribute it among the widows ard orphans of the
| South.


| In conclusion he submitted several kilograms
| letters, &C., in relation to the matter between
him and Maddox.