Year: 1874

"a NJ 4alCGQCcB
dsh prison and lound TO be failure. Since then
bv psriismentary enactment no convict can be
keps In solitude longer than the time have just
aWSnt .essment does the convict receive after
his release from solitary confinement ?"


ana having deported himself In an unexception. !.
sbie manner during that time, he Is transferred to
GRADArIoN OF CLASSES,


from that or probation TO class No. 8, each time
bettering his condition, until by uniformity Of
good conduct he reaches the highest class. Alter
Remaining Tor two years In this sphere he Is trans
lerred to large farm at Lusk, where there are
Where he is thrown exclusively on his good con.
duct. Should he at this stage violate any rule he


nows hsre tnss ne WIN oe sent sen back again to Mount
making Tor himself good prison record.


.Do you approve OF the Irish systemf"


Known. Under its workings the government has
succeeded in causing the absorption OF most OF its
that the tcket-of-leave system would not be prac.
fcable here OWING to the extent OF our territory.
AZ proof Of the efficiency Of the Irish system in
euppressing crime 1t Is matter OF record that
during the first twelve years OF It's existence the
1umber OF convicts was reduced from i've thou


"What would be your plan II permitted to have q
voice IN the alteration OF our prison nagementf


A REFORMATION SUGGESTED


I'm the first place would divide the prisoners
mo three classes. Again, would not have a prison
that would accommodate more than five hundred
convicss IN any one locality would have first
their nrst offences. l would have in that mixed
system OF solitude and congregate. would place
~ new prisoners IN solitary confinement and keep
1nom there sufacfent time to prepare them for
months In association l would have system
OF advancement somewhat similar to the Irish
plan. Although 1t ts pOpuarly supposed that
am IN favor Of very mild treatment towards con-
victs, ] would exact thorough discipline, and tor
q violation Of any rule / would punish severely,
Without for moment losing sight Of justice to the
= ''what measures would you adopt towards tho
second grade OF criminals ?"


'The second prison that would have would be
Tor men who are considered hardened In wrong
doing and who are In prison lor the second or
third time, or those who relapsed into crime alter
going through the first prison. The third prison
would devote to old, incOrrigibe criminals, who
were known to be such, and to professional bur-
men. These would keep plainly and comfortably.
without ever expecting to make ANYTHING out OF
3hem except what they really were."


s'rhen you don't expect to witness any material
reform IN prison management under tho present
system ~


"I do not The enlargement Of the prisons and
Sne prevaltlng system nave proved great mis-,
take The State should build smaller prisons, and
In places where supplies could be procured at
much cheaper rates than here. Again, there are
TOO many convicts to find work for. We cannot
employ more than seven hundred or eight hundred
convicts here out Of the entire number IN the
prison. The remainder do little except to SOW the
seeds Of decentralization"


Here the interview terminated, and the HERALD
representative after being conducted through the
prison by Warden Hubbell, who pointed out the
various improvements recently effected, took
leave OF that Oflcial and wended his way to the
railroad depot.