Year: 1867

Questions Involved in the Tornado Case-Ac-


tion of the Derby Cnbinet-A New Insult to


the Flag.


In the House Of Lords on the sth Of April the Earl OF
Malmesbury said-I appeal to the noble marquis oppo
site whose notice stands on the paper 70 the
effect that he shall call the attention of the House to
My reason for making the appeal Is tha. since the
respecting the Tornado have been laid on the
tabe our relations with SPAN have become still more
in fact, arisen, which appears 70 me TO be
portant than that connected with tho rornado aude
70 the Of the Victoria British trader which has
been seized by Spanish vessel fourteen fifteen miles
from the coast and has been taken TO Cadiz and sold
There may perhaps in the Of the Tornado be agn
mens which may reasonably be advanced both sides
of the question: but ii seems 10 her Majesys govern.
that there is paation excuse for what has
been done with reference TO the Victoria. IL is more
than q common outrage that Spanish ship should attack
on the high seas British trader and insult the British
fax and her Majesty government have deemed neces.
sary TO take the erayest notice Of the matter despatch
which has been written by my noble friend the secrc-
tary for Foreign Affairs To the despatch to which al
lude her MRjestys government have not yet had any
answer from the Spanish government Lord Stanley
asked as your lordshp knows that pensaton should
DC made for the loss and injury sustained, and that
apology should be offered to this country No answer
having yet p,en received TO tna' despatch hope the
noble marquis will not at this enter into the
question with regard TO the Tornado until we ascertain
what spirit the Spanish will evinca with
reference 70 the question OF the Victoria help
beng convinced, considering the proyerba sense OF
honor which the spaniards feel with respect TO their
national credit, aud knowing that they would not
hear of such outrage being committed upon Span-
is ship in the Channel without raising cry from Cadz
to the yrences that when their goyernment learns sc
facts it will not hesitate to concede the reparatou hr
has been asked and will not seek shield subord-
nate officer who was in tho wrong l therefore -lst
that after the Easter shall be able say that
this affair has ceased to serious an aspect but
am afraid that If the noble marquis TO ra se any
discussion at this moment in your lordshps House il
would rather be prejudcal than beneficial TO the ne
EQUATIONS which are taking place. tHear. hear


The Marquis of Cianrcarde said that Of course when
his noble friend, speaking minister OF the Crown
said that II would be better upon public grounds
to enter into discussion with respect relations
WIN Spain he could not refuse 10 accede 10 his request
Tor iurher posponement. At the time he must
protest against those British subjects who were con.
cerned in the question which he wished TO bring bfore
their ordships being made suffer by reason OF that
postponeinenI III their case mndc out, as he be-
iieved eventually would be- and the spanish Govern
mcnt should find that its officers had been IN the wrong
he claimed that every British seaman who had been
wronged, and the owners OF the British ship which had
been detained should be indemnied up the hour
and to the u extent Of the injury inflicted upon them
Hc could only express his satisfaction at the they
had all heard tnat day, namely that the Mediterranean
feet had received orders 10 move from Malta


The Earl OF Clarendon was glad that the noble mar.
quis had thought Il consistent with his duty comply
with the request made to him by noble earl oppo
site, and he should also be exceedingly glad IL the result
OF the discussion which TO take place after Easter
suspicion which now attached to them There were 90
facilities in this country for evadng the law and
many persons had little scrupe in resorting TO
those evasons in order to bring their into
discussion II not into trouble with other governments
that he thought an opinion could be strongly ex





could be too clearly made known that those who for
Their own private gan aided and abested foreign Powers
at war with each other but with both OF which England
was ut peace did that NJ their own risk Of being treated
as begerents by the Power against which they were
acting and that they had forfeited all claim 10 protcc
ton assuredv thcy would not receive IL from their
own government except IN so far might be necce-
say TO secure that the proceedings taken agana them
did not affirm that the owners or the Tornado we're In
that position would he now enter into that case III
he did enter into IT. he thought he should be able 70
show that the gravest suspicion attached TO them.
Of far grave and serious Character he could not
believe that there had been any intentional hostility
towards this country the part Of the Spanish govern
ment There was no reason for believing that; and he
spirit He had no doubt, therefore, that when the
gravity OF the became fully Appreciated By shom
the satisfaction which England was entitled 10 claim
would not be withheld. But At the same time he could
spatch sent by his noble friend at the head OF the For
eign Ofice, and which he thought the circumstances
perfectly justified, should have been published soon
after u was written knowing he did that through
70 DO applied 10 them, how exceedingly difncun IL
might be for the Spanish government TO give sAtissc
tory answer TO It.


Tho Marquis Of CtAsmcARps would bring forward the
case OF the Tornado on the first day after the Easter
vacation and must say he did not think II quite fair
on the part OF the noble earl .ord Clarendon before
ne had heard what there 10 be said In that NATTER
wnetner Tor or against the OF the vessel 70 assert
that the suspicion attached TO them Of having violated
or evaded the law Anybody who looked through the
documents would see that they had had no fair trial.
tnnt our Foreign Office had declared 60 and that NOT one
scrap OF evidence had been given that side OF the
question. but more than that he asked the nopsc
earl whether u upon suspicion that British sailors
were 70 be put In irons and iltreated whether u vas
upon suspicion that British ship was b. sessd upon
! NE nSen eaA and nrtish sh,uowuers wsrs N 10