Year: 1868

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can alter the whole institutions Of country and tha s
Will produce no eecti really astonished that gen,
year. and then believe that they go with the old
stock arguments, inviting as they do our synpatnes
told tho proposed resolutions are contrary TO the
Act OF Union. should like 10 ask whence the Parla


Lament. why we who succeed to all the powers and
privileges ever possessed by predecessors are 70 90
did Then would also say this There s an argument
now called the garrison argument That IS that we must @
keep up the Protestant Church in order to keep up tn
Protestant influence in Ireland The answer to that Ia
my opinion very short We are strong enough at pres
ent In Ireland to enforce act OF injustice on tuo
majority Of the people Don't you think we are strong
enough when we get the majority on our SIDE TO oonpt


that wish to present to the House in support OF tne
proposition would make one criticism on all tns Cas tss
when we argue in order to persuade person we
start at common tnsy 1 adM1 beeTe
and your antagonist does not agree TO, your arga-
msnt Snns IS t fqs sSora ny srsmept that has
adduced in the Of this debate or that can Dc
adduced BY any human ingenuity in support OF the IRISH
Church which ought to convince Roman Catholic Can
any one say that the Roman Catholic Is obstinate OF
wrongheaded because he does not feel any OF the ar


ments that brought forward It is not go know
argument that be put that sincere Roman Catno
viii not grant you and II you cannot possibly convince
him. that is not his fault, but you' Then you MAINTAIN
to be defensbie by argument and which you maintain by
bare force. How can you expect to tranqulnze coun
try the most prominent institution Of which s main
alned by main force and is totally opposed to the wishes
and desires OF more than three ourhs Of the populaton
conduct OF the Government 1 think they have con-
trived by kind OF zgZag policy, TO make IT so exces


trouble to eiscldate @ IT. but hope have succeeded
doing It, and invite the House to follow me through the
is what / have alluded to before the declaration
Of the First Minister Of the Crown that MS MS
words he used and they had very reassuring effect


Then he took another step The noble lord the Ghs 81
saying that the Government would not listen to any plan
for disestablishng the Church. or indeed for making
any serious changes in it, except internal ones. IL
seemed TO me that noble lord also admitted another
statement not with regard to the Irish Church and that
statement inconsistent in itsolf perhaps
but utterly inconsistent with the policy Of the Govern
proposed that we should grant charter 10 ne unqer te
Roman Catholic bishops, for the education OF the Roman
but let me say so much Every sincere Catholic appre
hend-certanly every sincere Catholic eccesastics an
AT time when you protesting the most unbounded
affection for the Establishment you propose to hand
over education OF the middle and upper classes OF the
great majority Of the country TO persons OF whom II ID no
dscredt to that they are necessarily the enc
That zgzag the first. The next one was sti more
striking The right sa tne nS reseyed
from the House the attention it deserved The right hon
orabe geneman in that memorable letter says tnat no
approval OF her Majesty" Then he says: "Such ex-
pressons on the part Of influential bodies OF our
| men encouragingy opportune;" and he adds we
have heard something lately OF tho crisis In Ireland IN
my opinion the crisis OF England Is rather at hand, for
the purpose avowed and that by powerful party
of destroying the sacred union between Church and
state which has hitherto been the chief Of
civilization and Is only security for religious liberty


Those the words What Churchf and what Statef VI
course 1t Ia perfectly clear II is inference Of his own
what ayow is the intention OF breaking tho union be-


is represented if this party. this Influential party


tween Church and state altogether lCheers There IS
| no qualification whatever. Then the right honorable


nion Why the sacred union between Church and state
effected in the year 1900 by the Act of Union which
aughterl | ask the right honorable gentleman TO make
OF this and when he comes to speak TO answer t
! The House viii ask him how things which did not exist
before the Unon and which were done by inc nhi0n can
possibly no sacred. Cheers and aughter.I lie knows
sSnp Winch that i Parliament act; but do not think
he will call them sacred. 1.-THE chief means OF our
OF ireiand-augh ghterl-for that s what the right hon.
gentleman speaking ofthe chief means OF our cyiliza
rity for our religious liberty" is that very Church Of


small minority against which the religious liberty unable
TO destroy lCheersl. That letter was no doubt IN
tended TO serve purpose ont 40 NOT Ih % , VIII S
gentleman. who in his time has play ed many parts in
champion Of England lIaughterl. The experience the


night hon genteaan has had OF mankind has taught hG
contributed little to that experience: Laughter. H.
however he thinks that with the amendment OF the noble
Lord IN one hand and the charter Of the Roman Catholic


University the other he s going by this letter TO place
himself the head OF the great Protestant party OF En-
gland attract their confidence and persuade them TO
him Office, he has, say II with fear ana trembling,





| Here YOU have Government acting In most neon
sstent manner setting up at one moment hea ior the
Church. and the next ntrusung tne educao1 % pI sne
youngthe most sacred thing connected win he Chuieh
into the hands Of s bltterest enemies You nave the
right honorable gentleman at the head OF the Govern
mcnt coming forward with letter which out-ierods
Herod In the extraordinary hight TO which II eevates
the principle OF Church Establishment ana on the very
he lord the secretary OF state for Foreign Affairs,
which y "B Ss OF


which the principle for the neHt ana
IOpposton cheers.l As IL that were not enough you
have another Minister who looks codly on the matter
argues the matter from his own point OF view,
and in the manner and the spirit OF the reson,
oTs ,Sa,her Minister to deny everything the other
alleges and 70 say on behalf of you the Government


fore ioppostlon cheers You have Minister to assert
what he donied your behalf and another to deny what
i'm which YOU think right and decorous TO treat
this House Of Commons IL Is nothing new 70 US ners
and tactics We now find the Government Instead OF IN
iatng measures throwing out bills like the cuttensh
and dbers with OF catching up something that
may appropriate-not being It's own. Loud Opposition
not take il s withdrawn immediately and the Minister
repudiates IT, and dsayows those who threw ~ OUT
larry In which mud soubriquet for the right non
orabe gentleman the member for Buckinghamshire
have pointed out to the House-yOu could not over


step the Inconsistencies OF last year You did your best





does not admit it-you have initiated new idea You
have actually put forward two gentlemen hoii9g
the highest offices. except in your Government 10
contradict each othert0 submit contradictory nes OF
policy lIaughter One holds out that you are In favor
Of making any modification in the Irish Church, and the
other you will not listen 10 such proposal at


So that those who will not vote with the noble LORD the
retary OF State for the Home Department the question
before the House beng the same all the time lOppos
mons has endured good deal OF this kind OF thing
we have been all permanently lowered Dy IT,
and
position cheers-and the estimation OF public men In the
country has fear been irretrievably lost 10 u.s. Top
position cheers But the Right Honorable gentle
man is a man of rare and daring genius, and lie
must soar little higher and he reached the eliminating
..t a,lneitr rGnn he nlaced Ministers before