Year: 1862

| assertion because they say our commerce wou q


go on without any interruption whatever, and a.


which IL 1owel would be changed, and that CONNER
| would be carried through the neutras with much


greater saeiy than IN our own ships. that be 80, 80


fsr our commerce is concerned there is ground for


complaint (ear, hear) II must be admitted that that


'ncipe would increase the nconvcnences when the


sh powners would feel VIXEN broke out Bus unlOr-


tuney is of tho natBro Of that cannot be car


rie on without embarrassment suering and loss TO oil


partAs concerned you make war without any ealler-


ing AMI any loss to any party whatever it would become


mere chids play, and II might last forever without CON-


ing to any result ear) ~ is said that all our cos


morec wond Immediately be carried on by neutras, but


how that made out pre,ume it may be asserted


that the commerce of the world carried on by the ships
OF tho world, and believe our commercial ships form
largs proportion or the shpS which carry on that
commerce, suppose that our ships thrown out Of
employ nent, where will you 1nd ships 70 take their
place Shps are not things which can be created on
sudden: j. takes time create mercantile marine.


forget how many millions Of tons have in NOR
chant shipping, but supposing the whole II them
all al once coaned to our hsrbore. where will you


find neutral ships TO take their place and to carry the
commerce which they now carry on? Ne are, Il hope,
the most powerful naval State, and VIZ have; hope,
fleet uhich in ne eoet of sodr, acoud be superior % amy
adversary ,oitrwh.m might be engaged (Hear hear


Tho ships OF that adversary would either in short time
be confined 10 their ports they would Ous and
suffer defeat; and hen we had established maSms
supremacy at sea- thea the danger TO merchant
vice would in such proportion be diminished. ms
really is only another instance Of attempt to set up
the assumed interest OF class of persons against tho
general interests OF the country We have had great





tho persons who objected to particular


the ground thar they imagined that it wBa in
they mistaken, and they have actually shared in
the general good which resulted from that arrangement
When 90 trade ncorn was established the agricultural


interest conended that they would be ruined and great
Efforts made prevent the adoption of that
sure but the interest has since found that
prospered with the prosperity which that change pro
duced Our manufacturing Interests also conendcd that
by admitting foreign manufactures manufacturers
would DO ruined but instead Of that manufactures
mtted foreign manufactures. This very nterest-the
shipping interests also aR instance They con-
tended most elaborately and eloqnently that the
change in the Navigation laws would be their ruin,
tho contrary has been the fact and shipping has


increased over since by reason OF that change. The
shipping interest now ask for the establishment the
principle contained in the resolution Of the honorable
member for Liverpool because they imagine that it
would relieve thcm Of tho pressure Of war but in the
WILL fact be detrimental to the general interests
of tho country and that they would share in the in
Jury which the country would sustain If that were
granted 70 them which short sighted view Of their


interests induces them to think of Importance. An


island like this, with an army which s not large enough
to be sent to distance across the sea for any great
operations of must mainly rest for redress upon its
naval power being exertcd in destroying the commerce
and commercial ships of its antagonists and in taking
their crews prisoners. Gentlemen have argued this
question il il we're simply q matter Of ships and
goods but they forget that when you take an enemys
merchant ship you als not only the vessel and cargo
but the sailors board (hear hear who, II they
are allowed safely 70 their own ports an





what hops may be far dstantZ-that were at war
with France. That country sends annually some 5000
or 10000 sailors to the different fisheries nurseries
for her war navy. Suppose We were b0ckadng Brest,
Toulon Cher bourg, or LOrent, If the principle Of the
honorable member for Liverpool were adopted, We
should have allow the feet Of 20 900 sailors 10 pass
with mpunity through blockading squadron to man
tho enemys ships lying in the port before u.s. Hear,
hear Therefore it not simply the injury done 70 the
enemy BY the capture Of his property and vesse6 which
you have 10 consider tits ths injury you can do him by
thus crppling his war navy. and deprivng him Of
that navy and suable it to come out and give you
battle. Hear. heAr) MY opinion, therefore, distinctly
that yos gse up that po'oer whtch you possess and
sckch all npdTims States possess and haze ezsycised-Qf
taking the ships, the property and the Of the nation
rh whom you way happen TO be at soar-you would oe
S ho g non no. ~a? nSva ev and 70" would be-
guilty of an act Of political suicide. (Iear, hear II
you allow the cargo 10 so frso you must allow the men
you could stop merchant ship and take tho out
OF her while you lot thevsssel and cargo You could
sell but you have sailors. and the mercantile marine
that which feeds the war navy saore are part of the
ensmy's power and, therefore, gentlemen, VIC cannot
you, and allow the ship and cargo 10 gst home
As they best can," daughter Therefore, accord
ing 70 the principle OF the honorable % % sI%ssmsn
into harbor, to man fleet there, that might come out
TO encounter yours and oner it battle. Hear, hear
With this principle you would really almost reduce war
TO an exchange OF diplomatic notes (Fiear, hear II
you admit the principle that private property must bere-
spscted a sea- you cannot maintain blockade You en-
blockade by conscating the ships that break IL:
how you do that you assert that private property
at sea 10 be rcspected You may say that ships shall
only they break the blockade But what
ID in That is not question clear that infinite num-
Der OF questions may not arise upon IT, II may be alleged
that ship has not broken the blockade; 10 may be
question how far she from the port and in what
degree her approach TO It proved an intention OF
breaking tho blockade Many points Of this sort
YOU would get into insuperabe difficulties ii you
went the length Of saying that private property IS


be respected at and only to be taken in tho case
of breaking blockade. repeat II you adopt the prin-
cipe OF the H,n. gentleman you will cripple the main
OF your strength for all purposes OF war; (ear,
hsarJ We are all agreed that thing TO be avoid.
ed hope that this country will never be engaged in
any unjust war. But long human nature Is human
nature long mankind are ambitious, tyrannical,
and oppressive especially fthey believe they may be SO
with npunity without suffering for it, so long will
nation like this whose subjects scattered over the


face Of the goos living IN and engaged IN a. iS
faith Of treaties with their Governments, % long VIII
this coentry be liable to causes OF just quarrel from time
to tms with foreign nations. And the more remote the
nation the more likely II Is such catsss OF quarrel
will arse. In such the navy Ia the only arm by
which you ex,ort redress. You cannot send out
military expeditions to conquer the country that
has doss you wrong You can only obtain redress by
means Of your navy. II may be said You may lombard


city or But that is not practice that any ona
can recommend you adopt. That worse than taking
private property the for destroy the property
Of people who have had nothing whatever to do with ths
cause OF quarrel between the two counriss You have
no resource in Of this sort but the power Of
your navy 1hen what class OF persons in this coun


ry have most interest in maintaining the power of OBJ
tanning redress for injury The shipping and COM
mercAl interests who have the most numerous trans
actions with foreign countries, and who more likely
than any others be the objects OF injury and wrong
thex are the whom this country s most likely


TO be called ON demand and obtain redress (Esar,
hear Under these circumstances should hSpc the hon
orae gentleman will be satisfied with the dsbats that
h1s arisen his motion and with the very conflicting
and support has recevcdirom tue ouse
(Larghter) ,eink the honorable gsailsman himself


must be at loss know what Is the sense his resolu-
ton is understood to bear. (aughter.) SHOULD hope
he will be content with the mysterious vagueaess IN
which IL has envsoped and the doubtful result OF


he opinions eted the dobnte that has arisen on IL.
(Hear) hops he will be satisfied with the discussion
ne has made very sensible speech. barring sce OF its
opinions and ssguments-( ghter la speech TO which


stened with very great pleasure. hope tss honora
bs gentleman will be content with tho discussion he has
raised tho question. and withdr.v' his resolution
,Chesrs)


Mr. DIsRArlI said whatever. varie,y n opmion exists
with regard the motion there cannot DO tso opinions
as to the importance Of tSe subject lear. hear) In
my mind 1t is the most important subject that
engage our attention. In mportanse ! put II
far beyond the QUESTION Of lsrliaDentary Re
FORM even when that question reality.