Year: 1865




noas' on Saturday afternoon he heard that they had
Q. Did he protest his innocence Of the crime, A He
said he knew nothing whatever about H.


Did he say he could show has Innocence Of 10 BY the
rersons with whom he he had been .n company he
that was In Washington through parties who were
@ Did he say he went homo after being advised ,ha,
detectives were then after himf A do nos remember
that he said 20.


Testimony OF James GiMerd.


BY the Jupcs ADvooA1E-Q State whc.her you have
been connected with Fords theatre in this city, and in
what capacity. A. have been, in the capacity Of
builder


Q. You were carpenter Of the buildings A. Yes, sir
a Did You occupy that position on the l4th and 18th
Q. Did you observe the Presidents box on that dayf
A. No. sir Was not in IL.


Do You recolect having seen any one IN IN A.
Well saw Mr. Harry Clay Ford ct one time, and slr
Reybold


q. Any one else' A. No, SIR


Did you observe large rocking chair which was In
the Presidents box the day Of the l4ths A. did not
notice Il ON the l4th.


O. When did you sec ~ A. I saw il on tho following
@ Do You know when " placed in the box, and BY
O. Do you know whether il was ever there bcforci A.
do not think has been thcrs before during this sea
SON saw II last season


g DO you know who took IL awayf A. No, SIR
@ Do yoa know whether the stage scenes remain now
as they were on tho morning after the assasinatonf
porters deck, but he understood Ia say that with
the exception Of slight disasrane ent which had been





view OF The stage the scenes in the posi-
ton a. on the morning after tho assassination.


Q Have you examined the well IN the Presidents boxf
Q when did you examine hrs,f A. / -shuk il was
on the Monday morning after the assassination when
Q You had not seen besorct A. No, sir


Q. When had you been In the box Instr A. cannot
Q. Do You think that II the mort.ce had been there
yoa would you'll have . observed It. 4 Yes, ! think 70
Had II the appearance Of having been very recently
A.


Q By what Instrument would you suppose il TO have
seaue aooa whe y q as with
knife-h 10 quite large noriccf A. It would require
man some fifteen Minutes, should Judge.


O. II the three doors Of the place all closed
would be entirely dark there, would notf A. Yes sir
Q DO you not think that one or more Of those doors
must have been open when this m0rtsce madc2 A.
quired think


door, be likely to attract the attention Of persons
ne"ted with the thcatrc9 A. II knife used wonld
not; chsel and hammer was used they would create
@ What were the duties Of the prisoner spanger9 A.
He worked on the stage, made scenery fixed up the
Was the decoration of this box within the line of
his dutos9 A. No, sir; there gentleman there by
ii was to decorate the box, but he had stiff neck he
told me afterwards; when asked him II did not see
hin IN the box he said Yes but did not decorate IT,"
q. Where were you at tho moment Of the assassna-
ton Of the PRESIDENT standing about ten feet
from the centre Of tho big lamp just a the edge Of the
q On the stage' A. No, sir; in front Of the house
outside; came out 70 the front Of the house after hav
ing been In about three or four minutes


You alludc TO the front part Of the theat1es A. Yes
Q Had you been behind the sceoesa A. Yes, sir.
How long beforef A. About twenty minutes before.
q while there did you see the prisoner Spanglsrf 4.
q What was he doing, A. He was ON Tho ,e,. hand
side; came out before the curtain went up; he was
waiting to transact his business which scene shit
Was it not usual for the passage way which lends
70 the back door to be kept entirely free Of
was sxsys kept lie entrances we're ops = S
nlled with chairs and tables though that depended
Sn:s sa.s n Ssrs IN DsSss
o. Do You know who made the mor,ics or the par
which was found theref 4 do not.


cRoss.RxAMINRD BY Nh. EWING.


paper which purported 70 be plan Of the interior u
he theatre was shown 70 the witness with the request
that he should state whether was correctly drawn.
The witness pointed out that it was defective several
State where the passageway across the stage 70 the
outer door ordinarily obstructed during the play
A. Only by people when there was largo company on
the stage there were never any chairs tables scenery
Q Was necessary to keep the passage way clear
obstruction from the dressing room 10 the sagei A.
Yes.


O How is the back door, the small one usually LEFT,
A. II Is usually left open after thcperformance s
@ Do you mean that II IL swinging open, or merely
unockedf A. Lett unlocked the only door that is lef



@ State what the position Mr. spangler occupied
during the performance2 A. His business was on tho
left hand side Of the stage, the right hand side from the
Yes .r Was that on the side OF the Presidents '0''
@ State what times during the performance you were
on the stage that nghts was the stage until the
curtain went w; when IL was lowered around
the stage to see that everything was right


q State at what times during tho evening, when you
came on the stage bctween the acts you 6pangcr2
time saw him was aSou. nine oeoeE '"s last
State whether you saw him each timer A. Yes, SIR;
each time


O He was your subordinate, was he nots A. He was
@ State where you were during that play when you
were not on the stage. was In front Of the house
lamp which had put up there during the performance
Of the first act walked up 70 next the Of Tenth
s during The third act did NO. the house a
You were thcn In front Of the theatre part Of the
tine between the second and third actsi A. I
Q where were you during the performance Of the
second .cti A Tothe best Of my knowledge was then
O. All the Nmcf A. Not oil the time


q How much Of the timef A. Well, don't know; I
walked IN aud stayed Ave minutes and walked out
Q state whether or not you saw the prisoner
Spanglsr. a any time during the play in front Of the
S % nk nc
the scene would have gone wrong he had left the
O. Did you ever see spangler wear mustachef A.
No, SIR he never wore one since knew him.


@ Do you know how he was dressed that EVENING"
A. No, sir; did not take any particular notice Of him.
Q Was he dressed ordinarily A. About the same -
he now Ia.


q Was not the play Of the American Cousin one in
which the scenes were shifted good dealf A. They
were what call plain genes; there not much
shifting; believe there wSfe some nve SIX
each ACT.


Q Then Spanglers presence there would have been
Indispensable to the performance A. Yes, sir; II he
had not been there the would not have gone
q Did you hear Booth call Spangler that nightf A.
No, sir.


q What had Spanger 70 do with Boothf A. Nothing
that know Of; Booth rather friendly, and every
bOdv apO bOusc xVaa iendIv wit had n
winning way with him that would make every person
like him; he was good natured j0via kind of man.
q Was he not very much In the habit Of frequenting
the theafre9 A. Sometimes have seen him there for
week; then he would 60 OF and would him for
couple OF weeks


employees would have? A. Yep, sir


O. He had access by the back entrance al any tmef
A. Yes sr NJ any time when the house not locked
up.


O. Was not spangler sort Of a drudge for BoothS A.
He appeared sol he used to go down and help TO nx