Year: 1867

The HEFORA BILL.


On the SOth the Lords proceeded with the
bin Earl Grey rose to reopen the Compound House
holder question again. and proposed to disturb the dec
sion of the Commons which insisted personal rating
His principal argument that 1t would be impossible
% collect in rate from small tenement holders
- at present is paid by the landlord ADDED 10 the rent


The Government opposed this alteration, principally
upon the ground that Il rested question OF finance
which the peculiar privilege OF the other House and
with which they had nothing to do The House
fe Government and clause which is really the fOunda
tion Of the measure, remains acknowledgements
Suffrage based upon personal rating personal ratng
being compulsory The vote for the Government was l4o
Against. I5. Majority, 106


which were adopted Lord Cairns and said he had an
important proposition 70 make, in reference 10 those
constituencies which return three members TO Parliament
There are eight such constituencies but-as the bill pro
poses divide South Lancashireseven VIII remain,
futtpg aside London which four members The
t proposes add 70 these threeeOrnered
-four large towns The proposal will not promote party
interests He the anxious to propose his clause
because believed that any future alteration in the dis
tributon Of will be in the direction OF extending
vii provide that every in threecornered cOnstitu
ency shall be at liberty 70 vote for two candidates only
90 that voter in threeeornered constituency snail
not gain advantage over a voter IN con
stltneney returning Two members FOm h % iVVTO no 70
represented and these are the Ossessors OF te greatest
eToncht at ali INTO contact with the legislation Of the
COtry the fashion 10 say that they indirectly
root the whole OF representative system IL was
rad 20 the claim prior TO the Reform BILL when
Manchester had actual representation, that II was
represented by the members Of other places This prOpO
tion has 10 be considered in three points OF view in its
effect the Legislature the members and the
Ftituences themselves With regard the Legislature
1t would add Ia body IOf of great intelligence
ana great independence. You would have the element
which constitutes the present advantage Of small
borouchs without the defects; and 1t would be a very
steady element in times of popular excitement No
dOuht addition for the present would be small; but
looking forward 20 the possibility OF forty fifty
Ipeuhers OF this class, would be a stable element
IT would moreover, give variety 20 the representation
The advantage the representatives would be the
bringing IN contact men of different political views
Nothing can be more Denenclal Tor public men and
statesmen than 10 he brought face 10 face with the
FORTY But IL would have still greater advantage the
constituencies t would IN the first place, give the
greatest al satisfaction: for nothing be iTk
kone 70 than 10 have no direct control public
affairs This plan would remedy the dissatisfaction that
now prevails and the disincinaOn the part of some
able retire altogether from public affairs; while
tie other hand there is nothing nvdiOus In It. as In
come of the remedies which have propOsed-sch as
the division OF electors into classes II would tend 70
sOfen the aspeTty In political feeling which sometimes
prevails in large constituencies. Fierce and expen-
five contests would be very much diminished ;
and as contests come TO an end so will the
had only heard objections urged against tins PRO
pOsa II is said first that you adopt tins measure
are two members, and paralyze and neutraze the
whole representative system OF the country But the
proposal strictly confined 10 the constituencies Of three
members IL has the advantage over what - called the
cumulative system that 10 cannot be carried beyond


reeeOrnered constituencies In reference TO the second
bjecuon. is asked what win you do with your seat to
filed by the representative OF The minority suppose
scancy should occur in the middle OF Parliament :
les in the middle of the Parliament, and II IL said
lat the majority must elect a successor. He quite
Omitted that but II is not a fatal, serious
bjecton for what happens in constituency under
ich contingency viii probably be soon balanced else


Earl Of Malmsbury, on behalf Of the Government op
posed the motion.


Earl Russell spoke strongly in ts support.


Earl bpeDcer (Conservatve) in supporting the notion
s&d In entering upon and unknown region OF the
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