YOU KNOW THAT WAS COLLECTED M A LITTLE BIT LIKE THIS WITHOUT UH TOO MUCH CARE IT WAS IT WAS UH A PERSONAL EFFORT OF MAEL THAT DECIDED TO DO IT IT WAS REALLY GOOD TO DO IT IT WAS VERY GOOD BUT BASICALLY IT WAS MADE WITHOUT ANY SPECIFIC KNOW WITHOUT THINKING WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE JUST TO HAVE THEM SO THE ESPECIALLY THE AUDIO CHANNEL IS ABSOLUTELY AWFUL AH YEAH THEY HAD LIKE UH Y UH Y THEY YOU KNOW THEY HAD THIS SET UP WITH THE UH THE MICROPHONES SO SOMEONE EVERY IT THERE WAS ONE MICROPHONE SHARED BETWEEN EVERY TWO PEOPLE BUT THEY HAD DEALS WITH PEOPLE FORGETTING TO TURN THE MICROPHONE ON FORGETTING TO TURN IT OFF UH F IT WAS IT WAS MEANT I THINK THEY THEY CHOSE THAT LECTURE THEATRE POSSIBLY WITH THE IDEA THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR COLLECTING DATA I MEAN I UH I'M SURE THEY COULD HAVE PROBABLY HAD UNIVERSITY OF EDINBURGH HOST IT OR WHATEVER BUT I TH I THINK THE YOU KNOW THE H. C. I. PART OF IT DIDN'T QUITE WORK OUT TO HOW THEY PLANNED SO AP BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THERE IS NO INTERACTION BETWEEN HUMANS AND CAPTURE BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU HAVE MICROPHONES THAT YOU HAVE TO MOVE IT'S IT'S IT BECOMES COMPLETE UH REALLY I MEAN EVEN THAT MINOR THING I MEAN ANY ANY AUDIO CAPTURED DURING THAT PERIOD IS I IS RUBBISH BUT THERE'S NO SORT OF SYSTEM THAT'S REALLY BUILT TO D TO BE ABLE TO SAY WHEN YOU'RE YOU'RE CAPTURING THAT THAT UH UH UH SO OKAY MM THE THERE WILL BE THIS OKAY WILL IT INCORPORATE LIKE UH AN S. M. A. AND UH YEP ONE UH MICROPHONE AND WE ARE THINKING TO USE UH LAPEL MICROPHONE YOU KNOW THIS THIS THING AND SO THAT POTENTIALLY HELPFUL HOPEFULLY HELPFUL TO TO DO RECOGNITION AND TO SLIDES THROUGH THE PROJECTOR OKAY SO NO NO UH MICROPHONE ARRAYS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT I GUESS THAT'S QUITE A THAT'S A QUITE A BI BIG DEAL FOR SETTING UP THE RECORDINGS I GUESS FIRST OF ALL WE ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT CAN BE EASILY THE THE THE IDEA IS REALLY IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU TAKE YOU BRING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND IT WORKS SO IT MUST BE AS EASY AS POSSIBLE BUT IN ANY CASE I MEAN THE DEVICE WE ARE DOING HAS INPUT CHANNELS SO SOME WAY YOU CAN ADD AS MANY INPUT AS WE WANT SO WE ARE DEALING NOW WITH THREE BUT THERE ARE OTHER INPUT UH LINES OPEN YEAH BUT PROBABLY WE WERE THE F YOU KNOW THE POST UH THE THE THING IS SOMEWHERE PROJECTOR SUPPOSE THERE'S LIKE THE THE WHITE BOARD OR WHATEVER THE PRESENTATION IS OVER THERE THE SPEAKER IS MORE PROBABLY IS GOING TO THIS WAY OR THAT WAY SO PROBABLY YOU YOU MAY NOT NEED A VERY BIG MICROPHONE EITHER PROBABLY ONE OR TWO UH UH YE UH YEAH UH YEAH WH UH THE I MEAN I'M JUST THINKING FROM PRACTICAL PERSPECTIVES YOU'D YOU'D HAVE TO THE THE AMI RECOGNITION SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE NOW IS EITHER FOR THESE MICROPHONES OR FOR THE MICROPHONE ARRAY THERE'S NO LAPEL SYSTEM TRAINED FOR INSTANCE SO I MEAN THAT IN ITSELF IT WOULD I MEAN YOU'D HAVE SOME FUN TRAINING SOME MORE SPEECH RECOGNITION MODELS BUT I MEAN I WAS MENTION THE THE LAPEL MICROPHONE MM JUST LIKE THIS BUT IF YOU TELL ME THIS THAT'S VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE AT THIS POINT WE CAN USE THIS KIND OF THINGS BUT I DON'T WHY WHY NOT UH SO THERE WILL BE OTHER DATA THEIR TEST DATA UH AND ESPECIALLY FOR THIS KIND OF PROBLEM I THINK IT CAN BE A MUCH MORE USEFUL KIND OF DATA BECAUSE THERE IS REAL PRESENTATIONS I MEAN IS IT'S REALITY YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S IT'S UH Y N IT IT IT IT'S EXACTLY IT'S MORE REALISTIC AND UM YEAH PROBABLY IT CAN HELP GO IN THIS DIRECTION OF SAYING WELL LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPEN BETWEEN SPEECH AND SLIDES UH YEAH AND EVERY TIME WE D WE GENERATE A NEW CORPUS AND TRY TO CARRY OUT NEW RESEARCH WE DISCOVER SORT OF AREAS THAT ARE TOO CONTROLLED YOU KNOW I MEAN THE AMI ONES WERE A LOT BETTER IN TERM OF THAT THAN M. FOUR OR WHATEVER BUT STILL I MEAN ES ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET INTO HIGHER LEVEL SORT OF UH INTERPRETATION IT'S YEAH OH WELL I'M UH I'M JUST CURIOUS DO THE LIKE THE ICSI MEETINGS DO THEY HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE AUDIO DO THEY HAVE SLIDES OR ANYTHING ALONG THAT I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD OKAY I'M JUST THINKING WHETHER OR NOT THERE AN ARE ANY OTHER SOURCES I MEAN MAYBE CHIL DATA BUT IT'S A L UH WELL YEAH IT MAY BE INTERESTING FOR YOUR PROBLEM I THINK YEAH 'CAUSE IT'S I THINK IT'S GONNA BE MORE LIKE THE TAM TYPE SITUATION SO YEAH IT'S MORE LIKE TAM BUT UH YEAH THE THE THEIR COLLECTION IS MUCH UH UH LIKE THEY HAVE UH R. T. N. S AND ALL THOSE THING PEOPLE SITTING AND UH IT'S A LEC IT'S A LECTURE UH A MEETING COLLECTION AND I UH IS IT THROUGH N N UH L. D. A. OR SOMETHING BUT I MEAN GIVEN THAT IT'S COMING FROM THE SAME BASIS AS AMI I I EXPECT THERE HAS TO BE SOME SORT OF RELATIVELY F LIBERAL SORT OF DISTRIBUTION POLICY YEAH YEAH SO SO PROBABLY WE CAN YEAH CHIL MAY BE INTERESTING ACTUALLY YEAH THE ONE THING ABOUT THAT AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST NIST EVALS WAS THE FACT THAT IT'S ALMOST TOO UNI MODAL YOU'VE JUST GOT ONE LECTURER TALKING SO ONCE AGAIN YOU DON'T SEE THE THE COMPLEX SORT OF LEVELS OF INTERACTION I MEAN UH Y UH THERE'S NO WAY OF GETTING AROUND THAT I MEAN YOU JUST HAVE TO THINK OF A A TASK A CHALLENGE THAT IS RELEVANT TO THAT TYPE OF RECORDING WHICH MIGHT MM YOU MIGHT USE THE SAME METHODS AS WHAT WE'VE BEEN PR TALKING ABOUT TODAY BUT THE ACTUAL SORT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MEASURE MIGHT NEED TO BE SLIGHTLY SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT I GUESS I DON'T YEAH YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF IN TERMS OF SAY MEASURING WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SLIDES OR OFF CHANNEL I MEAN YOU MIGHT FIND NINETY EIGHT PERCENT OF YOUR DATA IS DIRECTLY REFERRING TO YOUR SLIDES IN A T IN A TAM IT'S NOT THAT IS UH IS IN TAMS AT LEAST IN NO I'M UH TALKING NOW ABOUT UM THE MEETING HOW PRESENTATION OF COURSE ON PRESENTATION IT IT SHOULD BE ONE HUNDRED PERCENT YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH OF COURSE NO THAT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT IN MY OPINION UH WITH THE WORK THAT'S BEEN ALREADY DONE IS SOMETHING WE CAN GET PRETTY QUICKLY IT'S AN INTERESTING TASK IT'S MORE SPECIFIC ON UH MEETINGS CERTAINLY NOT FOR UH FOR PRESENTATION AND IT REPRESENT A NICE TASK THAT CAN BE MEASURED THAT IS CLEAR AND YEAH AND UH AND AT THE S AND AT THE SAME END OF THE DAY