I THINK THEY ARE MORE TALKING ABOUT UM USER REQUIREMENT FOR THE MEETING THAN SOFT TEXT THEY WANT TO KNOW NO THEY SAID PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT TASKS YOU KNOW I MEAN THEY REALLY THEY MADE IT CLEAR THAT THEY WERE THAT THAT WAS GONNA BE HEAVILY YOU KNOW THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THESE SEVEN DIFFERENT TASKS PEOPLE MIGHT WANNA DO WITH BROWSERS UM YOU KNOW LIKE UH JOIN A MEETING LATE AND CH UM CATCH UP ON WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE MEETING SO FAR BE AT HOME WAITING FOR THE WASHING REPAIR GUY AND THOSE ARE THE USER SCENARIOS THE TASK WHAT WHAT HE CAME BACK AND SAID THAT AT THE END I MEAN IT ACTUALLY KIND KIND OF SCARED ME BECAUSE IT WAS ALL BASED AROUND TASKS OKAY WELL C MAYBE I MEAN IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE DOMAIN TASK OKAY UH IT IT'S REALLY SCARY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO IN AN OPEN DOMAIN WHERE YOU DON'T WHERE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TASKS ARE AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO FIGURE THEM OUT UH VERY RELIABLY BUT I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO AVOID DOING STUFF THAT WAS S STUCK IN THIS PARTICULAR DOMAIN IF POSSIBLE BUT YOU KNOW TH THEY WEREN'T CONCENTRATING WELL YEAH BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE UM USING THE TECHNIQUES THAT YOU CAN BE USING OPEN DOMAIN TECHN BUT I MEAN IF THE IF THE IF THEY HAD TH THEY HAD THIS SORT OF EPIPHANY AT THE END OF THIS MEETING WHERE THEY DECIDED WELL WHY ARE PEOPLE BROWSING THIS WELL IT'S ALL TO SEE HOW YOU KNOW HOW THE PARTICIPANTS WERE FURTHERING THEIR TASKS MM-HMM AND YOU DON'T THINK THAT CAN BE DONE IN OPEN DOMAIN AT ALL 'CAUSE WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO UM WORKING WITH ONTOLOGIES I MEAN ONE OF THE STRENGTHS OF THIS GROUPING WAS THAT YEAH THEY ALL WORK WITH THE CLOSED DOMAIN ONTOLOGIES AND WE'LL DO THE OPEN DOMAIN SIDE OF THINGS SO I DON'T KNOW WE'LL SEE AND THEN THERE WAS THIS CONFUSION ABOUT THE UM LAST SPIDER PHONE CONFERENCE THAT THE MESSAGES TELLING PEOPLE TO CALL CAME OUT AFTER THE MEETING HAPPENED AT LEAST TO SOME OF US OH RIGHT YEAH SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT ONE YEAH SO UM I MEAN WE'LL WE'LL GET THAT BACK ON TRACK BUT I THINK THAT UM WE DON'T YOU KNOW THERE WILL BE SOME MEETING BROWSER DEMO THAT UM YOU KNOW I I THINK IT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION OF OKAY WELL IF YOU HAVE KNOWLEDGE HERE'S WHAT YOU CAN DO IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE MM-HMM YOU HAVE TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS AND YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T NECESSARILY YEAH SO YOU'RE ADVISING WEI XUN THAT HE SHOULD BE USING LIKE ANY ONTOLOGIES AND PROPOSITIONAL CONTENT THAT UM D. F. K. I. AND T. N. O. BANK IN THE C. V. S. REPOSITORY OR OR NOT THAT'S WHAT I'M NOT CLEAR ON MM-HMM BECAUSE HE WILL HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY WITH OR WITHOUT AND THEN WE CAN SEE LIKE WELL WITHOUT YOU KNOW THESE TAGS SO YOU KNOW ALEX WAS SHOWING UM YESTERDAY WELL WITHOUT KNOWING THE HEAD WORD OF THE UTTERANCE AT THE LEAF YOU KNOW YOU GET THESE KINDS OF RESULTS AND WHEN YOU ADD THAT IN YOU GET THESE OTHER KINDS OF RESULTS AND YOU KNOW I THINK YEAH UM SO I THINK IF WE HAVE THOSE FEATURES IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S A RARE ORP OR RARE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU CAN YOU KNOW YOU CAN TRY ONE HEAD TO HEAD AGAINST THE OTHER UM AND THEN OF COURSE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU REALLY UM I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY'LL BANK THESE BY THE WAY UM 'CAUSE THAT'S IT'S NOT HUB SO I IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS WHERE EVERYBODY'S SUPPOSED TO BANK AS MANY THINGS AS POSSIBLE SO YOU KNOW W SO WE MIGHT DO THE SORT OF OPEN DOMAIN I MEAN A ALTHOUGH IT WILL BE A CLOSED DOMAIN I MEAN WE WE CAN'T USE ANY DOMAIN INFORMATION NECESSARILY UH I MEAN THERE PROBABLY ARE A BUNCH OF ISSUES LIKE IF YOU'VE GOT A HUNDRED HOURS OF MEETINGS AND THEY ALL TALK ABOUT A LOT OF THE SAME THINGS THEN IT'S EA IT IT'S NOT REALLY OPEN DOMAIN AND SOMEHOW THAT SNEAKS INTO ALL THE STATISTICS ANYWAY 'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE SUCH A WIDE VOCABULARY AND YOU KNOW RIGHT BUT THAT DATA'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE KIND OF COMING IN THE LAST SO YOU KNOW OUR RESULTS GO DOWN WHEN WE TRULY ARE GETTING MEETING YEAH SO I MEAN THAT'LL BE INTERESTING SO THAT SHOULD HELP SOME OKAY WELL THAT'S GOOD SO SO THEY'LL ACCRUE ALL OF THE NORMAL AN ANNOTATIONS OF COURSE YEAH YOU'LL YOU'LL NEVER GET THE T. N. O. AND D. F. K. I. STUFF ON IT 'CAUSE THEY'RE ONLY BILLING STUFF FOR THE ONE TO MAKE THE SO OKAY SO WE WANNA DECIDE UM WHAT WEI XUN SHOULD DO NEXT AND MAYBE THINK ABOUT MEETING IN I DON'T KNOW A MONTH OR SOMETHING YEAH MM-HMM UM SO BEFORE WE DO THAT CAN I JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION ABOUT CHUNKING IN THE BEGINNING YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT YOU WERE DOING THIS CHUNKING UM AND YOU'RE DOING IT ON THE ICSI DATA BUT THIS WAS DID YOU SAY IT TH WASN'T PICKED UP IN AMI OR YOU I I I WAS CONFUSED ABOUT W YEAH YOU KNOW TO SEE IF THE CHUNKER CHANNEL SWITCHBOARD WORKS WELL ENOUGH OR NOT IF NOT THEN MM WE HAVE TO USE SOME KIND OF SEMI SUPERV SUPERVISED LEARNING OR SOME UH BOOT STRAPPING TO TO TO DO THE CHUNKING AND YOU AND YOU HAVEN'T DONE IT YET NO NO 'CAUSE I WAS A BIT WORRIED ABOUT UH THIS KIND OF UH DISCOURSE STRUCTURE YEAH THA THAT'S FINE SO THAT'S STILL ON THE AGENDA TO DO AT SOME POINT YEAH EXACTLY THAT'S OKAY WELL SO I MEAN RIGHT UM OR BUILDING BLOCKS I MEAN SO I MEAN WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOW S CHUNKING INTERACTS WITH THE AUTOMATIC SEGMENTATION YOU KNOW BECAUSE UM BARBARA WAS SHOWING THE LOW LEVEL UH DIALOGUE SEGMENTATON YEAH OKAY AND I MEAN IT SEEMS TO ME THAT CHUNKING SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF SO IF IF YOUR DIALOGUE ACT SEGMENTER SAYS THERE'S THERE'S A SEGMENT HERE BUT YOUR CHUNKER SAID NO THIS IS A COHERENT CHUNK THEN Y Y YOU KNOW W I MEAN MAYBE THEY COULD WORK TOGETHER TO DO A BETTER JOB THAN CERTAINLY IF IF YOU'VE GOT CHUNKS IT OUGHT TO HELP YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR DIALOGUE ACT BOUNDARIES BETTER NOT BE YEAH MM-HMM AND IT MAY BE EVEN MORE MECHANICAL THAN THAT BASED ON THE UM EXAMPLES WE'RE SEEING FROM D. F. K. I. 'CAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE HAND MARKING STUFF AND THE DIALOGUE ACT BOUNDARIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE INTENTIONAL UM BUT THEY SEEM TO ALWAYS BE MARKING THEM THAT UM UH AFTER VERBS YOU KNOW WITH CLAUSE M UH IT'S VERY IT LOOKS QUITE MECHANICAL SO WE'RE QUERYING THEM ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING IT AND GOOD SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WELL W