be minimal effort to get it to work minimally and then wanna add things like query by speaker and by meeting and all that sort of stuff Um Dave Gelbart expressed some interest in working on that so work with him on it And it looking pretty good you know the fact that I got the query system working So if we wanna just do a one I think be easy If we wanna get it to Windows gonna be a little more work because the THISL IR the information retrieval um I had difficulty just compiling them on Solaris So getting them to compile on Windows might be challenging But you were So saying that that the uh that that set of tools uh Cygnus tools that It certainly helps Um I mean without those I wouldn't even attempt it Yeah But what those they what those do is provide sort of a BSD compatibility layer so that the normal UNIX function calls all work Um And you have to have all the the problem is that that the THISL tools didn't use anything like Autoconf and so you have the normal porting problems of different header files and th some things are defined and some things aren't and uh different compiler and so on So the fact that um it took me a day to get it c to compile under Solaris means probably gonna take me s significantly more than that to get it to compile under Windows How about Well having need run under free BSD Free BSD would probably be easier All you need to do is say to Dan gee it would be nice if this worked under Autoconf and be done in a day Right Uh Actually you know I should check because he did port it to SPRACHcore Right might have done that already I I I wouldn't be surprised So check at How that I play it would what would serve would serve both purposes is if you contact him and ask him if already done Yeah right If he has then you learn if he hasn't then do it Right Wow I hope he never listens to these meetings right So and been corresponding amazing with Dan and also with Yeah uh uh SoftSound guy uh Blanking on his name Tony Robinson Robinson Do I mean Tony I guess I do Yeah Or James S Christie Steve Renals Which Steve one Renal mean Steve Renals Renals not SoftSound is he No My brain is not working I don't OK who been corresponding i with Ste Steve Renals wrote THISL IR Then Steve Renals OK Oh So OK uh just getting documentation and uh Yeah and f and formats so all going pretty well I think Right Assuming issues of playing sound files between the two platforms Um we have Well a good point too a a crazy don't idea actually Why don't you try and merge Transcriber and THISL IR Well this both one Tcl reasons interfaces This is the one of the reasons that gonna have uh Dave Gelbart Gelbart Having him volunteer to work on it is a really good thing because worked on the Transcriber stuff Right and more familiar with And then you get they than then I you am get the Windows media playing for free Well Snack not not Transcriber Right But the point is that the Transcriber uses Snack and then you can but you can use a a lot of the same functionality Yeah yeah I mean I I think THISL THISL GUI probably uses Snack And so my intention was just to base it on that Yeah Well my thought was And is if that it it doesn't nice it would be nice to have the running transcripts um eh you know from speaker to speaker Right Do you have you have you know a speaker mark here and a speaker mark Right here have to figure out a user interface Right for that so Well that eh my thought was if you had like Multitrans or whatever do it Or whatever Yeah It might be fairly difficult to get that to work in the little short segments be talking about and having the search tools and so on We we can look into it but Yeah The thing I was asking about with um free BSD is that it might be easier to get PowerPoint shows running in free BSD than to get this other package running in Yeah I mean we have to I have to sit down and try it before I make too many judgments Yeah so uh Um My experience with the Gnu compatibility library is really just as hard and just as easy to port to any system Right The Windows system isn't any harder because it it looks like a BSD system just you know just like all of them the include files are a little different and the function calls are a little different Right So I it might be a little easier but not gonna be a lot easier OK So there was that demo which was one of the main ones then we talked about um some other stuff which would basically be um showing off the the Transcriber interface itself and as you say maybe we could even merge those in some sense but but um uh and part of that was showing off what the uh nonspeech stuff that Thilo has done s Yeah looks like Can I ask one more thing about THISL So with the IR stuff then you end up with a somewhat prioritized um ranked Excellent Excellent Yeah So another idea I w t had just now actually for the demo was whether it might be of interest to sh to show some of the prosody uh work that been doing Um actually show some of the features and then show for instance a task like finding sentence boundaries or finding turn boundaries Um you know you can show that graphically sort of what the features are doing It you know it doesn't work great but definitely giving us something Well I I don't think if that would be of interest at not very least gonna want something illustrative with that cuz gonna want to talk about it and so Yeah if something that shows it graphically much better than me just having a bullet point pointing at something mean don't know much looking about at so this now Are you looking at Waves or Um Matlab starting to and um Yeah we can probably find some examples of def different type of prosodic events going on S I when we here were having this demo meeting what sort of coming up with is that we wanna have all these pieces together to first order by the end of the month and then give us Oh week The end end so this month or next month This month Oh you mean like Ju today Oh Oh June Next sorry next June Yeah month Today June isn't June first is it another one Exactly Uh give