IT'S A FAIRLY NEW THING IN THE DEPARTMENT BUT IT'S BEING USED PRETTY REGULARLY OR SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTED JUST SORT OF QUIET SPACE OUT OF YOUR OFFICE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE OFFICE FURNITURE THE OFFICE CHAIRS IT SORT OF HAS COMFORTABLE SOFAS AND ARMCHAIRS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHERE YOU CAN JUST GO AND RELAX AND OR IF YOU WANNA READ SOMETHING FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME IN A MORE COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT AND BECAUSE WE DO A LOT OF READING AND THINGS LIKE THAT IT DOES GET USED FAIRLY OFTEN AND IT'S IT'S IT'S A QUIET PLACE YEAH MM-HMM MM I SEE MM-HMM AND SO I THERE'S NO ARE YOU PLANNING SOME KIND OF PARTITION BETWEEN THE LOUNGE AND THE OFFICES OR AR HOW ARE YOU GONNA KEEP THOSE THINGS I THINK SHOULD ASK THE QUESTION TO YOU HOW ARE YOU GONNA KEEP THEM SEPARATE 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE FAIRLY SEPARATE FUNCTIONS UM WELL WE WERE TOLD THAT IT WAS NOT REALLY POSSIBLE TO BUILD WALLS BUT WE NOTICED THAT THIS ROOM ACTUALLY HAS TWO DOORS SO UH WE THOUGHT THAT MAYBE WE COULD PUT SOME KIND OF WELL SEPARATION I YEAH MAYBE JUST YEAH FURNITURE OR JUST UH SOME KIND OF SCREEN BUT IT WON'T BE UH AN ACOUSTIC SEPARATION SO IF IF THE THOSE ARE STUDENTS THERE SO IF THEY'RE NOISY THAT COULD DISRUPT THE QUIET OF THE LOUNGE UM WHICH IS SORT OF WHY IN OUR PROPOSAL WE HAD IT COMPLETELY AS A SEPARATE ROOM SO IF YOU REALLY WANT PEACE AND QUIET YOU SHUT THE DOOR AND WHEN THE DOORS ARE SHUT LIKE UNLESS SOMEONE'S MAKING NOISE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE DOOR IT REALLY IS FAIRLY QUIET MM-HMM YEAH BUT YOU'VE ALSO PUT THE LOUNGE IN A A VERY K KIND OF A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA WHERE THE MAILBOXES ARE THE PRINTER AND THE RESTROOMS SO THAT'S UM THAT MAY ALSO THA THAT MAY BE GOOD FOR MEETING PEOPLE AND BUMPING INTO PEOPLE BUT IT'S MAYBE AGAINST THE IDEA IF IT'S A VERY SUPPOSED TO BE AN ISOLATED QUIET SPOT MM-HMM SO I D MM YOU KNOW MM-HMM MM-HMM OR W IS THERE NO PROBLEM THE DO DO YOU SEE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING A L A ROOM JUST FOR A LOUNGE OR NO WELL MAYBE IF IT IF IT HELPS US PACK MORE PEOPLE INTO THE OFFICES BECAUSE THEY HAVE A PRIVATE LOUNGE MAYBE IT'S A GOOD THING SAVES US MONEY BUT UH SO WE COULD HAVE A SEPARATE ROOM AS A LOUNGE AS LONG AS UH WE PACK THE OTHER OFFICES UH YEAH I GUESS THAT'S LET'S SEE WHAT IS THAT MM SO UM THAT'S THAT'S FINE MM I MEAN SUPPOSE IF THE NEED REALLY ARISES AND IT COMES TO A POINT WHERE WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THEN YOU CAN GET RID OF THE LOUNGE FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE FURNITURE EITHER DISTRIBUTE IT BETWEEN VARIOUS OFFICES OR PUT IT INTO STORAGE SOMEWHERE YEAH NO NO NO NO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IT STARTED OFF SORT OF AS A DISCUSSION AT THE COFFEE TABLE WHERE PEOPLE WERE COMPLAINING THAT SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AFTERNOON THEY JUST WANTED SOMEWHERE TO GO OFF AND MM-HMM SO YOU HAVE SOME OH SO YOU HAVE SOME BOOKS ALSO LIKE MM-HMM OH OKAY HMM EVERYONE HAS A BOOKSHELF IN THEIR OFFICE AND WE JUST GO IN AND BORROW BOOKS FROM EVERYONE ELSE IT'S MORE REALLY ABOUT HAVING A COMFORTABLE PLACE TO SIT UM WHERE IT'S NOT AN OFFICE ENVIRONMENT IT DOESN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE AN OFFICE YEAH YOU MEAN YOU CAN DISPLAY SOME NEW JOURNALS OR A NEW PROCEEDINGS AND YEAH YEAH YEAH EXACTLY YEAH MM-HMM YEAH YEAH WE'VE GOT A BULLETIN BOARD WHERE YOU CAN PASTE UP ARTICLES THAT YOU THINK ARE B INTERESTING FOR OTHER PEOPLE BUT MM-HMM YEAH OKAY SO I THINK MAYBE WE CAN AGREE ON ON THE LOUNGE IN A SEPARATE ROOM IF WE CAN MANAGE TO TO FIND SPACE ELSEWHERE WHAT ABOUT GISELLA HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT PUTTING HER IN A SEPARATE OFFICE WHICH IS THE CASE NOW I THINK WELL SHE HAS AN EXTRA YEAH WITH A VISITOR SPACE YEAH MM-HMM MM-HMM BECAUSE THAT'S THE W THE SITUATION IT IS RIGHT NOW AND IF YOU'RE A STAGIEUR AND YOU'RE COMING AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY EXPECT TO HAVE A FULL BLOWN OFFICE IF YOU ARE ONLY THERE FOR ABOUT TWO MONTHS MM-HMM YEAH SO WE COULD SAY SOME KIND OF LOW KEY VISITOR THIS IS UH VERY NICE MM-HMM YOU MEAN THESE FIFTY PER CENTS I MEAN THEY'RE ALL SEPARATE OR ACTUALLY GISELLA FIFTY PER CENT MEANS THAT SHE'S THERE HALF TIME UH GENERALLY IN THE MORNINGS OKAY YEAH YEAH OKAY YEAH LIKE THEY CAN'T SAY THAT THEY'LL BE THERE MONDAY TUESDAY AND HALF OF WEDNESDAY AND NOT THE REST OF THE TIME WHICH IS PART OF THE PROBLEM I MEAN THEY CAN'T S SPECIFY WHEN EXACTLY THEY'LL BE THERE SO OUR RATIONALE FOR PUTTING THEM IN A THREE PERSON ROOM IS IS THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHEN THEY'RE THERE AND WHETHER THEY'RE THERE FOR CERTAIN HOURS OR NOT IT'S JUST EITHER THERE'S TWO OR THREE PEOPLE IN THOSE ROOMS AND SOMETIMES THERE'S LESS SOMETIMES THERE'S MORE BECAUSE WE ALSO DON'T WORK FIXED HOURS IT'S NOT LIKE WE WORK YOU KNOW NINE TO FIVE OR WHATEVER EVERYONE SORT OF KEEPS THEIR OWN HOURS SO CAN YOU JUST SUMMARIZE BRIEFLY THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN YOUR TWO PROPOSALS THE KEY DIFFERENCES UM I THINK IT'S WHAT I TRIED TO TO DO BEFORE IT'S THE SHARED LOUNGE UH TH UM YEAH AND THEN SECRETARY HAS SEPARATE ROOM WE HAVE PIERRETTE AND MARIANNE IN THE SAME OH OKAY SO THAT'S OKAY YEAH NO I THINK IT'S UH THE LOUNGE UH THE ADMIN ROOM YEAH OKAY AN YEAH AND THE NUMBER OF SLOTS FOR VISITORS AND FOR THIS NEW STUDENT WHO ARRIVES BECAUSE HAVING JUST ONE SPARE PLACE THIS WAS PROBABLY THE STRONGEST DISAGREEMENT IN MY GROUP PEOPLE SAID UH WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE SPARE PLACES JUST FOR YOU KNOW GROWING OR SOMETIMES YOU HAVE THREE INTERNS THAT ARRIVE SO EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT PERFECT PLACES UM OKAY SO YOU BASICALLY ACHIEVE THAT BY GIVING LESS SPACE TO THE READING ROOM I THINK YEAH THAT'S YEAH THAT'S HOW WE DID IN IN OUR PROPOSAL YEAH UH SO I GUESS WHAT ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS HOW IMPORTANT IS THE READING ROOM TO YOUR GROUP REALLY IS IT IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S A VERY VALUED THING THAT HAS TO BE PROTECTED UM OR IS IT OKAY TO L MAKE IT BE KIND OF THIS SPARE SPACE THAT GETS USED UP A LITTLE BIT WHEN YOU NEED WHEN YOU HAVE SOME EXTRA VISITORS OR THINGS LIKE THAT I THINK THAT'S MM-HMM I THINK BECAUSE IT'S A FAIRLY NEW THING IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SAY AT THIS POINT I THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE LIKE IT NOW THAT IT'S THERE THEY SORT OF SEE THE VALUE OF IT AND THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE IT WIPED OUT ENTIRELY DEFINITELY MM-HMM YEAH YEAH MM-HMM SO IT MM YEAH