OK so The way imaging is they kind of play it and they see oh this happened then this happened then and Right about right they just sort of let it slide Right and if it if it a question on something they stop and maybe look at the individual wave form Right Oh well Well not wouldn't not look look at it at this point They would just listen They they might look at it Well the problem is that the the interface doesn't really allow you to switch visuals Not The very problem quickly is You that can that but the it takes time interface with the visuals very slow to load waveforms it And so when I tried that that was the Oh first oh thing I tried when Visually started it right can you can switch quickly between the audio but you just can't get the visual display to show quickly So you have to It takes I don't know three four minutes to Well I mean it takes it takes long very enough slow It takes long do enough that has to reload the I I don't know exactly what doing frankly cuz but it t it takes long enough that That just not a practical alternative Well it it does some sort of shape so you that cancel then that scroll it quickly yeah Yeah you can't change the resolution or scroll quickly really So Huh Now you could set up multiple windows each one with a different signal showing and then look between the windows Maybe I mean the solution if do preload interfaces right I mean so so we could use like instead of Transcriber Yeah it loads faster certainly What if you were to preload all the channels or or initially like doesn't what I tried originally So I I actually before uh Dave Gelbart did this I did an interface which showed each waveform and ea a ribbon for each waveform but the problem with it is even with just three waveforms it was just painfully slow to scroll Oh OK So you just scroll a screen and it would you know go And so it just was not doable with the current interface You know I am thinking if we have a meeting with only four speakers and you know you could fire up a Transcriber interface for y you know in different windows multiple ones one for each channel And sort of a a hack but I mean it would be one way of seeing the visual form think that if we decide that we need that they need to see the visuals we need to change the interface so that they can do Yeah that Yeah An what I thought of loading the chopped up waveforms I mean you know that Hmm But that isn't would make it faster The chopped up waveforms problem So is if if cut off you can't expand it Right chopped up Right but if you And wouldn't a that at the some same as the mixed signal No I mean the individual channels that were chopped up that be nice to be able to go back and forth between those short segments Cuz you don't really nee like nine tenths of the time throwing most of them out but what you need are tho that particular channel or that particular location and um Yeah might be nice cuz we save those out already um to be able to do that But it won't work for IBM of course it only works here cuz not saving out the individual channels Well I I do think that this Yeah will be a doable procedure and have OK starting with mixed and um then when they get into overlaps just have them systematically check all the channels to be sure that there isn't something hidden from from audio view Yeah Yeah hopefully I mean The mixed signal the overlaps are pretty audible because it is volume equalized So I think they should be able to hear The only problem is is you know counting how many and if really correct or not So I don't know I don't know that you can locate them very well from the mixed signal Right but but but once know once that know were that there happen then you you can would at switch listen Right to And the then close switch talking the so other But right now to do this limitation the switching is going to be switching of the audio Is what Right saying So so so did so Dave using their ears to do these Yes markings Dave anyway Yeah do that change where you can actually just click rather than having to go up to the menu Click listen to the individual channels Um I had suggested it before I just don't know whether he did it or not not sure what click what click on the ribbon Yeah Yeah you can get that oh oh get you can get the uh you can get it to switch audio Yeah Uh not last I tried but um maybe should get changed do again that because uh I think that would be much much faster disagree going to the menu a reason I disagree and that is that uh you very good to have a dissociation between the visual and the audio times when I wanna hear the mixed signal bu but I want to transcribe on the single channel So maybe right just now buttons down at the bottom Maybe I next don't it Just something I so don't that see not in the a menu option so that you can do it much faster Well I mean the i I I think that might be a personal style thing I find it really convenient the way the way set up right now Well it just seems to me that if you wanna quickly well was that Jane no was that Chuck no was that Morgan right now you have to go up to the menu and each time go up to the menu select it listen to that channel then click below and then go back to the menu fine select the next one and then click below Yeah So you true definitely streamline that with the Yeah with could the be interface but you know I mean th in the ideal world What Yeah No I I agree be nice OK OK So um Done with that Does any I forget does anybody uh working on any any Eurospeech submission related to this I would like to try to do something on digits but I just don't know if we have time I mean due next Friday so we have to do the experiments and write the paper So gonna try but uh just have to see So actually I wanna get together with both Andreas and uh uh Stephane with their respective systems