UH THE SPOTS THEY'RE GOING TO UH VISIT AND ALSO ON THE UH KINDS OF UH VE UH VEHICLE OR OR TRANSPORTATION YEAH UH-HUH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH S YEAH YEAH SO BUT THERE ALSO SOME VARIATIONS WHICH I CALL COMPLEX EXCHANGES SO THAT'S UH THAT'S UH JUST A LIST MM NOT LIKE THE UH BASIC EXCHANGE UH EXCHANGES YEAH SO WHAT'S THE RANGE OKAY SO YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S THE RANGE OF EXCHANGE TYPES FOR THIS GENRE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU THINK HASN'T BEEN DONE UH-HUH OKAY THAT'S CLEARER YEAH YEAH YEAH THAT'S UH Y YEAH A PARAME PARAMETER OR PRINCIPLE YEAH SOME SOMETHING LIKE YEAH MM-HMM YEAH AND ALSO YEAH A AND ALSO S IN 'CAUSE IN THE MEETINGS UH THE SPEAKERS MIGHT MIGHT REPORT SOMETHING UH THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST AND UH UH UH UH TALK ABOUT TH WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING AND ALSO PLANNING SOME FUTURE ACTIONS SO THIS KIND OF INFORMATION MIGHT ALSO BE HELPFUL MM-HMM AND OUR EXPERIENCE IN THAT PROJECT WAS THAT UM YOU CAN'T REALLY IDENTIFY EXCHANGE STRUCTURES IN THESE MEETINGS BECAUSE THEY THEY DON'T REALLY FOLLOW THAT PATTERN THAT EXCHANGES ARE CLEAR IN UM WELL I THERE'RE CLEARER IN WHEN YOU'VE GOT FEWER PEOPLE SO THERE'S FEWER PEOPLE TRYING TO PULL THE DISCOURSE GOALS IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS UM AND THEY'RE CLEARER WHEN UM YOUR GOALS ARE QUITE LIMITED SO WHEN YOU'VE JUST GOT INFORMATION EXCHANGE AND YOU KNOW THE OR THERE'S A CLEAR TASK THAT THE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO AND THEY'RE FOCUSSED ON THAT TASK AS IS NORMAL IN DIALOGUE ELICITATION LIKE MAP TASK OR LIKE YOUR LIKE YOUR INFORMA WHICH LIKE YOUR INFORMATION SEEKING DIALOGUES WHICH WASN'T DIALOGUE ELICITATION BUT IT WAS VERY CONSTRAINED IN GENRE SO UM THE THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION MIGHT BE NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE CATALOGUE OF EXCHANGES IS FOR REAL MEETINGS BECAUSE UM OR FOR THESE DECISION MAKING MEETINGS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T IDENTIFY EXCHANGES RIGHT SO HAVE YOU GONE THROUGH THE MEETINGS AND LOOKED FOR INITIATIONS AND RESPONSES WITH WITHOUT A PRIOR CATALOGUE JUST KNOWING THAT INIT INITIATION IN INTRODUCES A NEW DISCOURSE GOAL AND A RESPONSE UM MEETS OR NEGATES THAT GOAL IN SOME WAY SO HAVE YOU TRIED MARKING THESE EXCHANGES JUST UH FOR MY UH READING OF THE UH I. 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EIGHT UH FOUR MEETING SERIES YEAH JUST TO READING THIS PART YEAH MM MORE OF YOUR PRESENTATION BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT CANDIDATES AND YOU CERTAINLY CAN'T GO THROUGH AND MARK UP EVERY MEETING I MEAN MARK UP MEETINGS WITH EVERY SCHEME WE THINK OF SO I THINK WE HAVE TO KIND OF GET AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THE CANDIDATES ARE M IF THERE'S LIKE TWO OR THREE THAT WE THINK ARE GOOD CONTENDERS THEN WE TRY TO SEE WHAT WORKS BETTER RIGHT TH COULD TELL YOU THAT THERE IS NO CASE WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING FOR INITIATION AND RESPONSES THAT'S GONNA WORK YOU KNOW 'CAUSE YOU COULD GO THROUGH AND SEE THAT UM ACTUALLY THE PATTERN OF OF ADDRESSING DIFFERENT DISCOURSE GOALS IS TOO DISPERSED TO UM TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT KIND OF MARK UP BUT I G YEAH I MEAN I OBVIOUSLY YOU WANNA HAVE A FRONT RUNNER SCHEME I IN MIND BEFORE YOU SO SO LET'S SEE WHAT WHAT ELSE YOU'VE GOT OKAY SO THIS IS FOR THE UH DIALOGUE PART FOR MONOLOGUES UH THIS IS UH YEAH OKAY SO NO FURTHER UH INFORMATION IS HERE UH SO UH IT'S VERY UNCLEAR TO ME WHY YOU THINK EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION IS MORE PRINCIPAL T UH DID YOU I MEAN WHAT DID YOU HAVE SPECIFIC SCHEMES IN MIND THERE OR SPEC MM SPECIFIC PEOPLE'S WORK THAT YOU UM MM 'CAUSE UH SO FOR THE INFORMATION AND ACTION THE UH THE ACTION HERE IS NOT DIALOGUE ACT BUT UH SOME KIND OF UH UH PHYSICAL ACTION UH THAT UH THE UH PARTICIPANT'S UH I I IS GOING TO UH OR HAS DONE IN THE PAST HE'S GOING TO DO THE FUTURE SO UH NOT PHYSICAL SENSE YEAH PHYSICAL SENSE YEAH YEAH SO UH THIS KIND OF MIGHT BE THE UH SOME KIND OF SEMANTICS OF THE UTTERANCE OR OR EXCHANGE SO UH THIS IS JUST ONE UM THING I ONE PARAMETER UH FOR MM-HMM UH I MEAN UH HERE THE SCHEME IS FOR EXCHANGE SCHEME SO YEAH FOR UH FOR FOR UH EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION SO THERE MIGHT BE THE UH S SPEAKER AND HE UH A HEARER SO WHO SPEAKS TO WHOM AND UH UH S SO THIS IS THE UH UH SO DIRECTION OF THE INFORMATION FLOW AND ALSO SO SPEAKER ROLE MIGHT BE FIRST UH PARAMETERS FOR THE UH EX UH INFORMATION EXCHANGES SO UM BUT FOR ACTION THAT MIGHT BE UH SOME KIND OF UH PROPOSE OR ACCEPT OR REJECT KIND OF UH UH EXCHANGE STRUCTURE I MEAN OH SO THAT'S NOT A PHYSICAL ACTION RIGHT UH UH IF I PICK THIS UP WHICH IS A PHYSICAL ACTION YOU CAN'T REJECT THAT WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO THAT'S UH THAT'S THE UH SO WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING AND UH UH SO COULD YOU DO SOMETHING OR THIS KIND OF UH ACTION RELATED UTTERANCE I MEAN YEAH OKAY TECHNICAL SENSE YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH OKAY YEAH YEAH OKAY YEAH THAT'S N HMM BEFORE COME UP WITH THE SCHEME YOU MEAN YEAH I MEAN AND WELL THERE ARE VERY FEW UH SCHEMES FOR MARKING UP EXCHANGES ON ACTUAL DATA RIGHT BECAUSE UM PEOPLE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED IT VERY IMPORTANT WELL I ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY GET TIRED AFTER MARKING UP THE DIALOGUE MOVES SO THEY NEV NEVER BOTHER WITH ANY HIGHER LEVEL DIALOGUE STRUCTURE SO WE DID IT IN THE MAP TASK BUT I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW OF OTHER CASES WHERE PEOPLE BOTHERED MARKING ANYTH ANYTHING HIGHER LEVEL THAN THE MAP THAN THE MOVE STRUCTURE RIGHT YOU DON'T KNOW OF UH YEAH S STENT YEAH STENT MIGHT DOES UM YEAH STENT YEAH MM NO OKAY SO UM HAVE YOU LOOKED AT NATE BLAYLOCK'S WORK UH SO SO 'CAUSE I'M I MIGHT NOT FAMILIAR WITH THESE NA YOU KNOW COLLABORATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING YOU KNOW MORE THAN ONE PERSON INVOLVED AND TRYING TO CHARACTERISE THINGS AS UM YOU KNOW IF I I CAN'T REMEMBER THE I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NAMES OF ALL THE ACTIONS NO SO SO THE COCONUT PROJECT IS A PROJECT THAT I DID WITH RICH THOMASSON AND BARBARA DIGINIO HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THAT NOT VERY CLEAR NO THOUGH THERE'S A LOT OF DETAIL IN THE PAPER BUT YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT NO IN VERY MUCH DETAIL OKAY SO I THINK YOU SHOULD UM BECAUSE IT WAS ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE DONE FOR JOINT PROBLEM SOLVING AND JOINT ACTION I THINK ARE VERY RELEVANT TO LOOK AT BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE ARE SOLVING A PROBLEM TOGETHER RIGHT SO UM WHILE THESE SCHEMES MAY NOT HAVE THEY HAVE SOME ES OF THE ESSENTIAL COMPONENTS THAT YOU NEED TO CHARACTERISE UM JOINT PROBLEM SOLVING SO WHILE TH UM YOU MAY THINK THAT THEY'RE MISSING SOMETHING THEN WE WE COULD CERTAINLY AUGMENT THEM