'CAUSE WHEN YOU VISIT AN INTERNET UH SITE YOU DON'T WANT FIFTY LINKS UH TO SEE BUT MAYBE USE A HIERARCH HIERARCHY UH STRUCTURE AND UH WELL ONE OF THE IDEAS WAS MAYBE UH USE TOUCH SCREEN BUT S I DON'T KNOW IN HOW FAR THAT IS POSSIBLE SINCE WE ARE STICKING TO UH UM INFRARED AND AND THE REMOTE CANNOT RECEIVE ANYTHING BUT UH WE MIGHT UH CONSIDER THAT UM WELL OF COURSE I I HOPE THIS IS ALL CLEAR TO YOU IF YOU YOU CAN USE REMOTE LIKE THIS WITH ALL THE FUNCTIONS MANY FUNCTIONS BUT WELL YOUR THUMB IS A LITTLE BIGGER THAN TH IT THAN THIS YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU PUSH AND UM IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TELETEXT YOU'LL BE UH SEARCHING FOR HALF AN HOUR FROM UH UM YEAH WELL WHERE IS IT WHERE THE HELL HE HERE I GUESS AND YEAH WHEN YOU HAVE TO UH USE SOMETHING ELSE SO JUST KEEP IT SIMPLE MAKE CLEAR BUTTONS EASY TO USE FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU WANT TO USE A PLAY AND BACK AND STOP THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT UM WELL THIS WAS BECAUSE OF OUR LAST DISCUSSION IF MULTIPLE MACHINES ARE USED CREATE EASY SWITCH BETWEEN THE MACHINES BUT UM IT'S NO LONGER UH APPLYING WELL YEAH I PREFER TO USE IT ONLY FOR T. V. AND UM N UH NOT TO GIVE TOO MANY OPTIONS AND AND IF POSSIBLE UH THE BUTTONS SHOULD GIVE A DR DIRECT ACTION NOT FIRST SELECT UH YOU YOU JUST SAID UM UH YOU WANTED TO TO COMBINE MORE FUNCTIONS IN ONE SO UH YOU YOU WANT TO KEEP IT SIMPLE BUT I THINK THAT IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT THEN YOU CAN'T ESCAPE THE THE FACT THAT THERE WILL BE BUTTONS UH WHICH GIVE S UH MORE OPTIONS THAN ONE YEAH YEAH BUT DO WE WANT TO USE A FEW OPTIONS AND MIGHT NOT BE SO OR ORIGINAL OR UH MULTI PURPOSE AS WE THOUGHT OR DO WE WANT TO USE UM MANY BUTTONS SO UM WEIGHING THOSE FACTORS HMM IT'S MAYBE AN OPTION UH IF YOU USE AN L. C. D. OR A TOUCH SCREEN UM THAT IN THE MIDDLE ARE THE THE MAIN KEYS LIKE DISPLAYED ON THE UH YEAH THE DOESN'T YEAH THIS NO YEAH SOMETHING LIKE THAT OKAY JUST UH IN THE MIDDLE THE GENERAL FUNCTIONS LIKE PLAY UH CHANNEL SWITCHING AND THEN UH AT THE TOP OR AT THE BOTTOM SOME MENUS LIKE UH SETTINGS OR THAT YOU CAN DROP DOWN YEAH BUT WHEN ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD DO WE WANT TO USE UH A MENU DISPLAY ON THE T. V. OR UM DOES HAVE TO F EVERYTHING UH BE IN REMOTES 'CAUSE IF YOU USE A MEMORY DISPLAY ON THE T. V. YOU CAN SIMPLY PUSH UH A MORE MENU AND THEN SELECT THE OPTIONS YOU WANT TO HAVE AND PRESS OKAY UH SO THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION IF YOU USE MANY OPTIONS IN ONE BUTTLE BUTTON UM DISPLAY THE MENU ON THE T. V. AND DON'T UM USE COMBINATION OF T OF TWO BUTTONS AT THE SAME TIME OR PRESSING BUTTONS THREE TIMES FOR FIVE SECONDS IS TOO COMPLICATED FOR MOST USERS I THINK SO TOO BUT AND THAT'S PARTLY BECAUSE UM UH A LOT OF T. V. S HAVE DIFFERENT MENUS AND WHEN YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR MENU UH AT YOUR DEVICE UH IT COULD BE THAT DON'T CORRESPOND TO THE MENU WHAT'S ACTUALLY ON T. V. YEAH WELL YOU D YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT UH SEVERAL T. V. S UH DON'T EVEN HAVE A MENU STRUCTURE OR THEY HAVE A VERY SIMPLE MENU STRUCTURE SO YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT NOT ALL UH D NOT OUR REMOTE WON'T BE ABLE TO WORK ON ALL TELEVISIONS AND THAT WOULD BE UH A CONSIDERABLE PROBLEM UM WELL YEAH THE RESTRICTIONS OF WHAT'S UH IS ON THE MARKET TODAY UM YOU SHOULD KEEP IT S AT THIS USE BIG CLEAR BUTTONS NOT TOO MANY SO MAYBE WE'LL LOOSE A FEW OPTION UH OPTIONS BUT I THINK I THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT UM ESPECIALLY THE IMPORTANT BUTTONS UM IF YOU WANT TO SWITCH CHANNEL CHANGE YOUR VOLUME UH USE TELETEXT IT UH IT HAS TO WORK AT ONCE AND MORE ADVANCED OPTIONS MAY BE PUT IT S SOMEWHERE AWAY ON THE REMOTE BEHIND UH A LITTLE UH LITTLE THING OR A TOUCH SCREEN AND YEAH IF YOU WANT TO UH UH S PUT ON STAND BY OR CHANGE THE CHANNEL THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE POSSIBLE TO DO NOT FIRST CHANGE MENU OPTIONS OR SWITCH SOMETHING UM WELL YEAH AS YOU ALREADY TOLD GIVE SOME FEEDBACK IF THE USER IS PUSHING A BUTTON HE SHOULD KNOW IF THE TELEVISION OR N AT LEAST REMOTE IS REACTING AND NOT JUST THAT THE BATTERIES MAY BE LOW AND UM WELL MY CONCLUSION IS UH IS UH LESS IS MORE KEEP IT SIMPLE SO UH MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST EASE DOWN ON THE FUNCTIONALITY TO UH TO KEEP IT ACCESSIBLE ON T BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW IF THERE ARE A LOT OF FUNCTION ON THE THE TELEVISION SOME YOU YOU'LL NEVER KNOW UH AND NEVER USE AND THEREFORE IT'S UH IMPORTANT IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE VOLUME OR CHANNEL THAT IS ALWAYS ACCESSIBLE AND EASY AND OTHER FUNCTIONS UM THAT ARE NOT SO IMPORTANT UM WELL YOU WE SHOULD CONSIDER JUST NOT USING THEM OR AT LEAST PUTTING THEM SOMEWHERE ON THE REMOTE WHERE THEY'RE NOT IN THE WAY FOR THE FOR THE MOST IMPORTANT FUNCTIONS YEAH UH I THINK THE IDEA UH ABOUT UH TOUCH SCREEN UM IS VERY GOOD UM BECAUSE RECENTLY UH I SAW NEWS ITEM ON T. V. UM ABOUT UH NEW TELEPHONES UH FOR ELDER PEOPLE UM THEY HAVE LIKE A TOUCH SCREEN WITH UH REALLY BIG PICTURES ON IT LIKE UH UH CALL UH HANG UP UM AND THAT'S A BIG AD ADVANTAGE I THINK BECAUSE ONE THE ONE HAND UH YOU MAKE THE REMOTE CONTROL COMPATIBLE FOR ELDER USERS JUST BY UH SCALING UP THE PICTURES OR SOMETHING IT'S UH VERY VISUAL INTENDED WHAT WAS I TO SAY MORE MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION UM KEEP THE PRIMARY BUTTONS VISIBLE UH MAKE A REMOTE THAT FITS EASILY IN THE HANDS AND FOR SOME DESIGN ISSUES UH WELL PUT A LOGO ON IT AND MAYBE USE IT UH IN SOME AESTHETIC UH AESTHETIC FORM BUT UH TH THE IMPORTANT BUTTONS M MAKE THEM ALWAYS ACCESSIBLE AND PUSHABLE AND CLEAR AND MAYBE USE A TOUCH SCREEN OR IF THAT'S UH WILL BECOME TOO DIFFICULT JUST UH LIKE TELEVI SOME O OLDER TELEPHONES USE A L UH MAYBE IT'S POSSIBLE TO TO FLIP THEM OPEN AND UH JUST EXPAND THE NUMBER OF OPTIONS THAT ARE NORMALLY VISIBLE UM YEAH THEN WHAT'S GONNA BE DISPLAYED ON THE TOUCH SCREEN THE EXTRA FUNCTIONS THE EXTRA FUNCTIONS YOU UH YOU JUST SEE A MENU FROM SYSTEM FUNCTIONS OR TELETEXT FUNCTIONS AND YOU JUST CHOOSE ONE AND THEN ALL ALL THE OPTIONS WILL BECOME AVAILABLE AND YOU JUST C S YEAH T SCROLL THROUGH THEM WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO MAKE JUST ONE BIG TOUCH SCREEN