same person c sometimes says O and sometimes says zero in different context and sort of interesting So I don't have a Specific need cuz if I did probably try to collect it you know without bothering this group but If we OK can so try so it just add to the instructions to read it as digits not Right as and connected give numbers example like you know six would be read as six one Right And And I i think actually get no it more artificial than what been doing with words sure people can adapt to this Right it right single The just spaces to read bias it toward being separated Right know gonna find this easier than words Oh yeah absolutely OK cognitively much easier also had a hard hard time with the words but Yeah went back and forth on that OK so give that a try And OK is the spacing alright or do you think there should be more space between digits and groups I mean what Or do is other alright people think cuz you guys are reading them I think that i fine I OK OK me it looks like got the func the idea of grouping and you have the grou the idea of separation and you know just a matter of u i the instructions Great OK Well And I think give there it try about try ten different gouping patterns isn't that right Liz Righ we right and you just randomly generated and randomly assigned to digits I So did we have Sorry I I was just gonna say so we have in the vicinity of forty hours of of recordings now And saying two hours uh is digits so roughly the ratio then something Yep like twenty twenty to one Which I guess makes makes sense So if we did another forty hours of recordings then we could get another couple hours Right this Um yeah like you say I think a couple hours for a for a for a test test OK be nice to get you know more later because we might use use this up uh in some sense but Right but uh Yeah I also would like to argue for that cuz it it seems to me that um a real strength in having the same test replicated in a whole bunch of times and adding to that basic test bank Right Cuz then you have you know more and more u chances to get away from random errors And I think um the other thing too is that right now we have sort of a stratified sample with reference to dialect groups and it might be there might be an argument to be made for having uh f for replicating all of the digits that done which were done by speakers so that we have a core that totally replicates the original data set which is totally American speakers and then we have these stratified additional language groups overlapping certain aspects of the database I think that uh trying to duplicate spending too much effort trying to duplicate the existing probably isn't too worthwhile because the recording situation is Yeah so different gonna be very hard to be comparable Except that if you have the stimuli comparable then it not says same something about the the contribution of A setting and the other differences are so major OK Yeah such mean major read sources versus variance that uh an example of a of m some of the other differences Any other a difference Well i i individual human glottis is going to be different for OK each one you know just so many things OK Well it not and just and I enunciation uh the corpus itself I mean collecting it in a read digit in a particular list and sure that doing more specific stuff I mean if I remember correctly it was like postman reading zipcodes and things like that was I I thought thought so thought it was read Was it read Yeah I think the reading zipcode stuff thinking of would be OGI Oh I may well be Yeah no was read in th in read in the studio I I haven't believe ever listened to Yeah So I don't really know how it compares Yeah But But but regardless gonna hard to compare It different people is the is So core thing And different fine circumstances with different recording environment and so forth so really pretty different But I think the idea of using a set thing was just to give you some sort of framework so that even though you couldn't do exact comparisons it wouldn't be s valid scientifically at least give you some kind of uh frame of reference Uh OK know Hey Liz not What what do the groupings represent You said like ten different groupings Right just groupings in terms of number of groups in a line and number of digits in a group and the pattern of groupings the patterns like are they based on anything or Um I I just roughly looked at what kinds of digit strings are out there and usually grouped into either two three or four Oh digits at a time And they can have I mean actually things are getting longer and longer In the old days you probably only had three sequences and telephone numbers were less and so forth So between um Well if you look at it there are between like three and five groups and each one has between two and four groupings and I purposely didn't want them to look like they were in any kind of pattern Mmm So And which group appears is picked randomly and what the numbers are are picked randomly Right So unlike the previous one which I d simply replicated this is generated randomly Mmm oh OK OK But I think be great i to be able to compare digits whether these digits or to speakers um and compare that to their spontaneous speech and then we do need you know a fair amount of of digit data because you might be wearing a different microphone and I mean so nice to have the digits you know replicated many times Especially for speakers that don't talk a lot So Yeah um for adaptation No serious so Yeah a have problem Yeah some acoustic digits adaptation and not using the digit data now but you know not Not for adaptation nope v W not we were running adaptation only on the data that we ran recognition on and As soon as someone started to read transcript number read speech and I thought well gonna do better on that Oh I see not fair to use Oh yeah true absolutely But OK it might be fair to use the data for adaptation so So those speakers interesting are see whether that very helps quiet shy r Right that would Like help Adam adapting on Yeah Yeah Well a it real sh problem with that