mike still like you Yeah n w breathing no You know like Yeah Yeah it an makes advantage difference you from don't breath point of view and also from the research s point of view Yeah When Right doing the point of doing the close talking mike is to get a good quality signal not Yeah research on close talking mikes So Yeah well get it as uniform Right we can Now this is locking the barn door after the horse was stolen We do have thirty hours Yeah of speech which is done OK way But but uh yeah for future ones we can get it a bit more uniform Great So I think great field trip at some point Yeah probably yeah to the store we talked about Yep and that And there was some talk about uh maybe the h headphones that are uncomfortable for people to So as as I said do a field trip and see if we can get all of the same mike more comfortable than OK than these things which I think are horrible So Great thank Especially very people much big heads OK makes our job a lot easier And OK researchers so Yeah we OK have big heads Yeah Uh OK second item was the uh NIST visit and Yeah going on there OK so um uh Jonathan Fiscus is coming on the second of February and spoken with uh u u a lot of people here not everyone Um and um he expressed an interest in seeing the room and in um seeing a demonstration of the modified multitrans which mention in a second and also um he was interested in the and then also interested in the transcription conventions And um So um it seems to me in terms of like um i i it wou You know OK So the room things like the audio and c and audi audio and acoustic acoustic properties of the room and how it how the recordings are done and that kind of thing And um OK in terms of the well that being modified by Dave Gelbart to uh Oh handle recording I was just thinking I should have invited him to this meeting I forgot to do it So Yeah OK Yeah Sorry Yeah Well OK I mean Yeah and t and it looks really great He he has a prototype I I uh didn't didn't see it uh yesterday but going to see it today And uh that will enable us to do nice um tight time marking of the beginning and ending of overlapping segments At present not possible with limitations of of the uh original design of the software And um So I don't know In terms of like that that continues to be um a terrific asset to the to the transcribers Do you I know that al also supplementing it further Do you want to mention something about that c Thilo or Um yeah What what doing right now is trying to include some information about which channel uh some speech in But not working at the moment OK just trying to do this by comparing energies uh normalizing energies and comparing energies of the different channels And so to to give the transcribers some information in which channel speech in addition to to the thing we we did now which is just uh detection on the mixed file This is good relying on on the segmentation of the mixed file but trying to subdivide the speech portions into different portions if there is some activity in in different channels Excellent so be like w e providing also speaker ID potentially Yeah Wonderful Wonderful Um something I guess I didn't put in the list but uh on that uh same day later on in or maybe No actually this week uh Dave Gelbart and I will be uh visiting with John Canny who Oh you know is a CS professor HCC interested in ar in array microphones Oh doing array mikes Yeah And so we wanna see what commonality there is here You know maybe wanna stick an array mike That here would when be cool doing things neat or be or neat maybe not a specific array microphone they want but they might wanna just uh you know you could imagine them taking the four signals from these these table mikes and trying to do something with them Um I also had a discussion So w uh be over over there talking with him um after class on Friday Um let you know what what goes with that Also had a completely unrelated thing I had a uh discussion today with uh Birger Kollmeier a uh a German uh scientist got a fair sized group doing a range of things sort of auditory related largely for hearing aids and so on But but uh he does stuff with auditory models and very interested in directionality and location and and uh head models and microphone things And so uh he and possibly a student there w uh a student of his who gave a talk here last year uh may come here uh in the fall for uh sort of a five month uh sabbatical So he might be around Get him to give some talks and so on But anyway he might be interested in That this reminds stuff had a a thought of an interesting project that somebody could try to do with the data from here either using you know the the mikes on the table or using signal energies from the head worn mikes and that is to try to construct a map of where people were sitting Right Well Dan Dan based had on worked on that Dan did Ellis yeah Oh interesting So that the stuff was Yeah was And doing you b plot out who was sitting next to who and A little bit I mean Yeah didn't do a very extreme thing but just it was he just sort did of start on it e e given that the the the block of wood with the the the two mikes on either side if speaking or if speaking or someone over there is speaking it if you look at functions you end up with a if if someone who was on the axis between the two is talking then you you get a big peak there And if if talking on on on uh one side or the other it goes the other way And then uh it it it even looks different if th t if the two two people on either side are talking than if one in the middle It it actually looks somewhat Hmm different so Well I was just thinking you know as I was sitting here next to Thilo that um when talking my mike probably picks it up better than your mikes So if Yeah just looked another cl cue yeah true looked Yeah the energy on my mike and you could get an idea about closest Right to who And Or who talks the loudest Yeah Yeah