because I guess the trick is figuring out you know where it doesn't align But if a problem of extra beeps rather than missing beeps then um easier It could t it could might work There could be some missing ones But So is this just in this case seven were something Or What is it So I think uh Chuck had a good explanation for it which I liked which is these listening to it and so they write something down and say they miss it they rewind Well they hear the beep again Was that that beep or was Oh a yeah beep So why Chuck was suggesting different tones My original thought was you could have a different tone for each speaker You know plenty of tone space And that might help cue the transcriptionist You know give them a little cue about where they are Or you could you could have ascending tones or something What do you mean Uh Or Increasingly high higher could frequencies um each speaker in the meeting say beep and record it and that will be their pro No I just thi I don't know If you have a hundred or something just just sort of move them up i mu up a a half tone or something for for each one and then what I was saying Is that Oh was that it you Oh could have each I speaker listen could have their own tone Hmm And you know since there are no more than you know Oh ten speakers Well so per meeting plenty of tone space But Uh OK yeah So the only That might work too Yeah I was just thinking that actually temporally just uh uh OK uh an increasing tones so that they would really have a In sense end were going Yeah know forward th or backward or So Yeah just r r truly chron chromatically up Yeah the way through the entire meeting Well Interesting thought Oh oh be impossible see to misorder them Yeah Yeah But yo I guess still get the mistake that you mentioned because the Well person I mean if Yep some of the errors those would probably stay the same regardless I mean Yeah maybe suggestion of just two beeps is nice because then you could have them actually transcribe or high beep or low beep And then when we get them back if we It see would two much easier probably row better Yeah yeah you S have like scratch sanity simple sanity simple check on them Yeah Yep a good idea Alternating Yeah And it would it seems like it would help them you know if they just finished a long passage and they heard one beep and then they hear it again they know the same beep Versus if they Yeah heard a Hmm slightly interesting different one a good like error checking approach we I can yeah like do do uh one for each ca one for each person in the meeting you can only hire people who have perfect pitch and they can Well say B Well high low is pretty Great idea straightforward yeah yeah No two is probably better than what I was suggesting because what I was suggesting in order to make it through a reasonable range for the whole thing have to have the the tonal differences between the two kind of small and actually you want them large So have to have to have the acoustics of dogs t hear into the high high ranges Yeah think Yeah certainly doing two beeps is is And then the other question is if they can If they do something on a computer in a format we can handle we could give them a text file that was a template with speaker ID and beeps already in it And Yeah could just fill that in Maybe what should write to Brian and tell him what the problem was and Right what our proposed solutions are Yeah See what he thinks would work best with them I mean going wrong on the other end What are they doing Well What said uh I think We don't actually know but I think hypothesis was a good one which is you re r you listen to something you write down what you thought you heard but you want to listen to it again so you r rewind And there And are then some hear the beep again and then you say well is that that beep or is that a new beep I don't remember And so you know a couple times they got it wrong And there are some cases where um very little speech before you hear a beep So you hear Yeah little bit of speech beep a little bit of speech beep Maybe three of those in a row and was that three beeps was that two beeps Um See they have th Brian said the setup that they have is um uh i um got headphones and then I guess they have a computer and they have a foot pedal which lets them quickly scan back and forth through the tape I i t i s makes the tape go real fast forward or fast backward And so they can hear something then step on the pedal and quickly rewind and go back and hear it again And so I think probably going over and over f sections And then they get confused about whether already put that beep or if they heard you know three beeps in a row was that three or two and OK shame we can't really give a number So it would be a number and a beep e a shame we can't do that Well Oh could interesting idea We could but then that starts getting pretty long No no no But wait maybe maybe what we have instead of a beep is a uh synthesized number Yep And they put the number in when they work hear it So inst replacing the beep with And then they have to transcribe what that number is each time Wow also be shorter to type Yeah just a two three two four that would Well be would have to have a mark Interesting mark in front of it Well cuz s distinguishing between your indicator there and that somebody happens to say true in have t yeah a would have to meeting um you know either obviously a s sounding synthesized uh But little might miss that right Or maybe Yeah be a click and the number Or a beep and the number Well beep and sequential and then you just do the the num Right th you you do go as sequential digit So unless you got pretty unlucky Yeah what the person was saying and the number In fact we could put it at the beginning of each utterance We could say beep one And then hear the speech think having a beep too is good So beep number Yeah number beep just getting pretty long You Yep