IT WAS HELPFUL FOR ME TO PUTTING IT UP ON THE WIKI 'CAUSE I COULD ACTUALLY THIN THINK ABOUT IT AS I PUT IT UP AND SAY WELL THIS IS THIS IS WHY AND TH THIS IS WHY I WANNA DO THINGS THIS WAY UM SO YEP YEP UM I CAN'T ACTUALLY REMEMBER UH I HOW IT WORKED WITH THE THE MOULDS I MEAN I W I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT UM NO I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER SO I'LL I'LL LOOK AT IT UH BUT UH I'M SURE IT'S FINE 'CAUSE UM IT'S JUST MY MEMORY OF THINGS UH WHAT EL UH WELL I'LL HAVE TO GET TO GRIPS WITH CRA CAMTASIA UH PROPERLY UH TO GENERATE A LITTLE SORT OF INTRODUCTORY VIDEO I SUPPOSE UH FOR INSTRUCTIONAL PURPOSES AT THE BEGINNING OF THE EXPERIMENT SO PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE UH AND SO THAT THE P YOU KNOW EXAMPLE MOVEMENTS UH AND THINGS LIKE THAT WILL BE YEAH SO UM IS THAT GONNA HAVE A VOICE OVER OR IS IT WE HAD DISCUSSIONS BEFORE YOU STARTED ABOUT WHETHER IT SHOULD BE COMPLETELY SILENT SO THAT THEY COULD USE IN CASE WE EVER WANTED TO DO THIS IN IN DUTCH YEAH AND UH AND SO YOU KNOW YOU COULD JUST HAVE SORT OF WELL THE I THINK WE DISCUSSED HAVING IT WITH AN ENGLISH VOICE OVER OR HAVING IT WITH NO VOICE OVER AND THEN HAVING IT W JUST WITH CARTOON NOISES OR SOMETHING LIKE OR YOU KNOW WHEN THINGS BREAK SO TO EMPHASISE THE I MAY BE IMAGINING IT WELL UH WELL I KN I KNOW ON CAMTASIA IF YOU GOT A CA IF YOU'VE GOT A CAMTASIA PROJECT YOU CAN HAVE THE VIDEO AND AUDIO STORED SEPARATELY IN WHICH CASE YES MM-HMM YEP AND THEN THEY CAN EASY CREATE THEIR AUDIO OUT OF MM FROM THAT OUTP YEAH YOU KNOW MIGHT USE OR ARE YOU GOING TO PRIME THEM IN ANY WAY DOING UH ANYTHING WITH THE VOICE YOU KNOW IF YOU START TALKING ABOUT HAVE TO AVOID OR UH YEAH TALKING ABOUT THE PARTS OR JUST NAMING THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT MM-HMM OR OR OR DING FOR YOU KNOW YOU GOT IT OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAH YEAH YEAH WELL THAT Y YEAH WELL YOU NEED SOME WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ACTUALLY NOTICE THE THING YOU'RE TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO THEM IF THERE'S NO VOICE UH BUT YOU COULD LIKE HAVE VIDEOS OF PEOPLE CLICK ON THE MOUSES AND SORTA OR WHATEVER ELSE MM-HMM HMM OR OR YOU COULD JUST POINT TO YOU KNOW HAVE B GREAT BIG ARROW THAT POINTS AT THE TWO PIECES THAT BROKE YES I THINK IT CAN GENERATE UH THINGS SO THE MIGHT YEAH I'M SURE THERE MUST BE A WAY OF PUTTING BIG ARROWS OV OR WHATEVER UM 'CAUSE SHE'S THE ONE THAT HAS THOUGHTS ABOUT THE LANGUAGE AND STUFF YES BUT UH OR IN OUR DISCUSSION WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED UH IT WAS ASSUMED THERE'D BE A VOICE OVER BUT I'LL I'LL I BETTER I'LL I'LL REMIND HER YEAH I'LL I'LL I'LL DO THAT MM-HMM YES 'CAUSE WE'VE GOT TO THINK OF THE INSTRUCTIONS AND SORT OF BASIC INTRODUCTION TO IT ALL AS WELL SO MM-HMM ACTUALLY I I DID EMAIL NIJMEGEN TO ASK IF THEY'D HAD A SET OF INSTRUCTIONS THEY'D GIVEN THEIR PARTICIPANTS BUT IT PROBABLY I S I SUSPECT SO BECAUSE I HAVEN'T HAD A REPLY BACK YEAH TOO TOO UH IT WAS JUST IN CASE THEY HAD SOMETHING THAT WHAT MM-HMM NO THAT SHOULD BE A PROBLEM I'LL BE STRAIGHT FORWARD ENOUGH I THINK MM-HMM OH UM UH ON MY HOLIDAYS WE ENCOUNTERED A CHILDREN'S TOYSHOP WHERE THERE WE THERE WERE TAMGRAMS AND MY SON REMINDED ME THAT HE CA HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIND HIS TAMGRAM SET IN A WHILE WELL UH IF NOT IF YOU GUYS ARE USING IT OR DO Y DO YOU FIND IT HELPFUL TO HAVE IT AND THERE'S ONLY A UM YEAH HE'S GOT PLENTY OF TOYS IF YOU'RE NOT IF YOU'RE NOT USING IT THEN I'LL TAKE IT BACK RIGHT UH OH I'VE HOPEFULLY WELL I WON'T HOPEFULLY NEED IT FOR MORE THAN ANOTHER WEEK OR TWO ANYWAY SO AS LONG AS YOU CAN HOLD OFF HIS NO NO RIGHT UM I I WAS LOOKING AT THE THE COMPLEXITY SORT OF UH ASPECT OF THE TAMGRAMS IN THAT UH BOOKLET IT'S NOT QUITE THAT THEY JUST GET HARDER IT'S THAT THEY KIND OF HAVE PAGES OF SIMILAR UM TYPES YEAH SO ONE PAGE WILL HAVE SORT OF PARTS THAT ARE KIND OF SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER AND THEN YOU MOVE OVER AND THERE'S A DIFFERENT ALMOST TYPE OF DESIGN OR STYLE UH SO IT'S NOT QUITE AS PROGRESSIVE IN COMPLEXITY AS UH RIGHT SO UM HOW YOU GONNA GET YOUR COMPLEXITY RATINGS GOOGLE GOOGLE LIKE YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST ONE BOOKLET THAT CAME WITH ONE SET OF TAMGRAMS UH I'LL TRY I'LL TRY YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S WHAT'S OUT THERE WELL UH UM I'M HOPING THE DUTCH INPUT WILL ALLOW US TO P SORT OF HAVE A ROUGH IDEA OF WHAT WAS THE OF A SUITABLE COMPLEXITY FOR THE TASK BUT THAT STILL WON'T TELL YOU WELL HOW MANY TAMGRAMS ARE THERE THAT THEY'RE USING FIFTEEN OR SOMETHING NO NOT EVEN THEY'VE OF THIS RELEVANT TYPE TO WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO USE PROBABLY THREE UH WE'VE TO GENERATE SIXTEEN IN TOTAL THAT'S JUST GONNA TELL YOU WHERE IN THE SPAN YOU WANNA BE YOU STILL NEED SOME KINDA SCALE FOR THESE THINGS CA UH IF YOU LOOK AT 'EM DO YOU JUST KNOW MM NO WELL I DON'T I'M NOT OR RIGHT OKAY WELL THAT'S A S THAT'S PSYCHOLOGY THING HOW HARD THEY WHO IS PSYCHOLOGY ALREADY USES TAMGRAMS THAT'S STILL AROUND MEAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN USING TAMGRAMS FOR AGES SO THERE MUST BE SOMEBODY WITH A FOLK WISDOM YOU CAN CONTACT I'LL TRY AND FIND OUT I DON'T KNOW OFF OFF HAND CERTAINLY SO LIKE LATE EIGHTIES UH I'LL I'LL DO A SEARCH B UM I'VE NOT ENCOUNTERED THEM OH SO WE'RE VERY OLD FASHIONED MM WELL OR MAYBE THEY JUST DON'T USE MM ANYTHING LIKE THAT I SUPPOSE FOR WELL THERE WAS STUFF IN THE SEVENTIES AND THE EIGHTIES RIGHT SO SINCE THEN RIGHT WELL THE OLD THE OLD TASKS ARE THE BEST SO I'M NOT GONNA LET THAT WORRY ME UM SO UH SORRY THAT WAS K I THINK A BIG DIVERSION AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT YOU WERE GONNA DO NEXT AFTER ALL THIS STUFF WAS UP AND THE I WAS GONNA LOOK AT THE G. D. F. SPEC ARE THE REST OF THE Y UH ARE IS THE REST OF WHAT YOU'RE TO DO WITH THAT SOFTWARE FAIRLY CLEAR 'CAUSE THIS IS ABOUT THE ANALYSIS YOU REALLY ONLY NEED ROBIN RIGHT TO TO SPECIFY THE REST UM SO I'M GONNA C BASICALLY I'VE GOT A THE GEST ANALYSER'S THE BASE THE BASIS FOR UH UM ASCII TO G. D. F. CONVERTER UM SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS ACTUALLY CREATE AN OUTPUT UH A G. D. F. OUTPUT PART TO IT