both being brought home, in terms of, uh, planning and ensuring that we can understand how to move to the next phase. Which, eh, uh, if I understand correctly, is sort of the, uh, the question. And, uh, and then in terms of, uh, Canyo Leman. Yeah, well, in terms of Canyo Leman, we, we need to recognize that we have the pressure of social unrest, eh, and guerrilla activity in both the Catatumbo and the Aralca regions. So, so there the risk is that, that we have the, the contingency means to manage, uh, the production impact. If the Canyo Leman, uh, pipeline, uh, is, uh, affected by, by this social unrest, then we have the contingent route of the inaudible pipeline. If this is working at, as… Been working due in the third quarter where we have 11 inaudible. 10 inaudible major impact in terms of, uh, um, uh, the loads for the, the refineries. Particularly in Barrancabermeja. Thank you. Our next question from from Frank Meganne from Bank of America. Please go ahead. Okay. Thank you very much. Um, just, you know, maybe stepping back to, uh, a little bigger picture in terms of how you're seeing the CapEx potential in upstream. Um, after the last four or five years, which, <laugh>, um, you went from, you know, having a lot of, you know, opportunities and, and being very aggressive to, you know, pulling back as, as… You know, right, rightfully so, to, um, restore the balance sheet and, and, and not, you know, overly get over-aggressive in terms of spending, given the less clear environment as, especially of course of the last 18, 24 months. I'm just thinking ha- you know, wondering now how you're, how you're thinking about upstream. Um, you've got, I would assume, a lot of kind of, uh, low hanging fruit that you could potentially exploit. You could, uh, you know, I would think you could, um, increase CapEx quite a bit, and, and profitably so if, if you wanted to. But I'm just wondering how, how big that portfolio is potentially inaudible one. And secondly, um, are you, are you tempted to get more aggressive over the next couple of years given the very favorable environment in, in I think fairly short payback period that you have for a lot of those investments? Thanks, Frank. And, um, great question. And, uh, and I think, um, I'll provide you some, um, some views. And then Heimich, and inaudible, and Roberto as well. And, and I think I can sorta basically inaudible the views. But, uh, the way I, um, I would put it. And I, I like your, uh, eh, your intro to the question in terms of, uh, us being, eh, explicitly very careful with the management of the balance sheet and the opportunities. be careful with the management of the balance sheets and the opportunities. And if you look at, um, how we've, uh, ramped up CapEx over the last few years from basically, uh, 2.2 billion in 2017 to 2.9 billion in ' 18, to three and a half in 2019, we'll be in that range this year. And, uh, I was, um, answering a question earlier saying that we see ourselves in the $4 billion to $5 billion range, uh, organic excluding ISA. And historically, 80% to 85% of the CapEx has gone to the upstream. So we're not going to abandon that. So, uh, there will be, uh, additional focus in terms of exploration. And this goes from, uh, uh, looking at seismic that we already have and doing the, uh, reinterpretation of that seismic with new technology and new capabilities. So that's point number one. And I think the, uh, the news that we gave the markets earlier in the week with, uh, the media, JW, the well, which is the discovery of a inaudible show that, um, sort of adjusting our view on exploration is paying off. And I think that's very important. Uh, this year we'll end up with some 400 wells, uh, in our, in our portfolio that we've drilled, development wells. We should probably see an increase in that. And that's the way you're going to think about it. If you look at geographically, uh, we have, um, very good activity in the Permia and it's paying off. It's, it's not only providing, uh, molecules or barrels, but it's also producing good EBITDA. You know, and we'll be able to top that, uh, when we close the year and the likes. Uh, so a lot of focus in Colombia, but we do have, uh, focus in both the Permian… And Alberta was just referring to Gato Domato in Brazil that will require some additional CapEx. But clearly, focus in Colombia were, uh, EOR techniques. Increasing recovery factors are fundamental. We have to deal with a 15 to 17 decline, natural decline per year in our main fields. Uh, good news. I think inaudible are healthy. We, we've done a lot of work over the last, uh, four or five years in terms of deficiencies in terms of becoming, uh, much better in terms of producing margin, you know, at the upstream level. So I think that's, that's paying off. Having said that, and we, we had a, a, I think a good discussion earlier on about sector inflation and some of the things that we're doing. But again, things like zero based budgeting and something called performance plus, which is an internal program to look at more efficiencies, I think can provide a lot of, um, support in terms of, uh, how we see ourselves going, going forward. And we have, uh, identified lot of opportunities. Uh, we have something called the taxonomy, so we know which each and every opportunity that we have in pipeline ranks up, uh… But, and I'll stop here, we don't want to get crazy, you know, in terms of spending money just for the sake of spending money. We wanna stay very focused and disciplined in terms of how do we inaudible, uh, the CapEx in the operations. inaudible, if you wanna add something else inaudible, jump in. Than- thank you, Felipe. So, so Frank, uh, good to hear you. I'll give you some color. And, and, and initially I'm gonna, I'm gonna give you some broad, uh, group numbers that, that provide context for the, for the conversation, and then some directional numbers associated to the plan which we're working on. I think, I think the biggest headline is that as we, as we look to refresh the plan ' 23, ' 24 in the context of a higher price environment, and in the context of course, of the, of the production lag that we've seen this year, clearly our, our strategic intent is to increase production, right? So direction. What we wanna do with the upstream is to increase production. And, and the good news is that the, the result of the portfolio analysis that we've been having over the, over, over the last few months is one that indicates a stronger portfolio with more prospects, with more possibilities, and therefore, with more, with