I THINK UM THE THE FOCUS OF IT A LOT WAS THE POWERPOINT AS OPPOSED TO THE TO THE WHITEBOARD AND I THINK THAT M UM IS ALSO DOES YOU KNOW HINDER US AND THINGS I THINK IT WILL BE COOLER TO HAVE THE WHITEBOARD RATHER THAN THE THE POWERPOINT OR MAYBE THE WHITEBOARD AND THE POWERPOINT IN THE SAME PLACE YOU KNOW IN THE CENTRE OF THE FOR EXAMPLE OR WHATEVER I WOULD'VE ACTUALLY USED IT UM 'CA YOU KNOW JUST 'CAUSE THAT'S SORTA HOW WE WHAT WE WERE SET UP TO TO USE WHILE WE HAD OUR TIME OKAY UH MM-HMM YEAH YEAH AND A LOT OF THE INFORMATION ON THE POWERPOINTS I DON'T THINK YOU KNOW WE NEEDED TO ACTUALLY IT COULD HAVE WE COULD HAVE GONE THROUGH IT VERBALLY ESPECIALLY MY SLIDES I FELT THAT THEY JUST YOU KNOW AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TO PRESENT THEM WHAT ABOUT THE DIGITAL PENS DID YOU FIND THEM EASY ENOUGH TO USE YEP CLUNKY AGREED YEP CLUNKY OKAY UM MM YEAH DIDN'T CLICK NOTE ON ONE THEN WENT BACK AND WROTE ONE TINY WEE THING ON THE ANOTHER PAGE BUT THEN DID CLICK NOTE AND SO I'M QUITE WORRIED THAT I'VE JUST WRITTEN OVER THE TOP OF IT OR SOMETHING BUT THEY'LL HAVE MY PAPER ANYWAY UM AND HAVEN'T DONE THAT SINCE MM-HMM MM-HMM MM-HMM IT'S ABOUT THE BEST THING IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME THAT WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T NEED TO MOVE OUR COMPUTERS BECAUSE EACH COMPUTER HAS ALL OF THE FILES YEAH YEAH WE ONLY NEEDED ONE COMPUTER AND YEAH THAT'S TRUE GOOD POINT AND THE COMPUTER MAY NOT UM BE CONDUCIVE TO A MEETING BECAUSE UM YOU TEND TO LOOK AT YOUR COMPUTER AND WANNA HAVE THE URGE TO CHECK SOMETHING YOU KNOW IT'S USEFUL BUT DO YOU THINK THE COMPUTERS JUST PROVIDE DISTRACTION IN A MEETING I THINK TOO MANY COMPUTERS ARE JUST DISTRACTING UM I KNOW I I LIKE TO HAVE THINGS WRITTEN DOWN IN FRONT OF ME ACTUALLY LIKE A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT WAS EMAILED TO ME I ENDED UP YOU KNOW LIKE WRITING DOWN THERE OR SOMETHING SO I COULD LOOK AT IT REALLY QUICKLY AND NOT HAVE THE DISTRACTION OF ALL OF THAT UM I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ANYBODY ELSE UM WHAT ELSE UH ANY WH I DO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN THEY SAY NEW IDEAS FOUND UM I DON'T KNOW IS COULD YOU THINK OF LIKE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL TODAY AT ALL WELL THE W MAIN ONE FOR ME IS THAT UH THE PROCESS NA IN A NATURAL F CONTEXT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INTERRUPTED BY THIS NECESSITY TO DISCOMMUNICATE OURSELVES FROM EACH OTHER SO THAT'S KIND OF A NEW IDEA FOR ME IS LIKE JUST SORT OF THAT IDEA WELL YOU KNOW IT'S KIND OF S HARD TO KEEP F WORKING FORWARD ON A TEAM A TEAM BASED PROJECT WHEN WHEN YOU'RE TOLD YOU MUST NOW WORK AWAY FROM YOUR TEAM OH YEAH AND YOU CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT THE ONLY THING IS THOUGH LIKE WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING ABOUT THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN I THOUGHT THERE MAYBE ANOTHER FIFTEEN MINUTES WOULD HAVE BEEN USEFUL THERE BUT UM YEAH I REALLY THI I I THINK MAYBE IF WE'D LIKE ALL BEEN WORKING IN THE ONE ROOM AND THEY JUST SAID YOU KNOW LIKE EVERY HOUR OR SOMETHING EVERYBODY MAKE SURE YO YOU KNOW JUST HAVE A HAVE A SHORT MEETING AND THEN JUST C JUST TO HAVE LIKE SOMETHING WRITTEN DOWN JUST LIKE YOU KNOW A A MILESTONE IF YOU LIKE UM RATHER THAN HAVING MEETINGS BUT THERE YOU GO UM SO IN CLOSING I HAVEN'T GOT MY FIVE MINUTES TO GO THIN OH THERE IT I FIVE MINUTES TO GO WONDERFUL OKAY UM ARE THE COSTS WITHIN THE BUDGET YES THEY ARE AND IS THE PROJECT EVALUATED YES IT IS SO NOW CELEBRATE GREAT SO IT SO NOW WE WELL APPARENTLY NOW I WRITE THE FINAL REPORT WHAT ARE YOU GUYS DOING NOW I I DON'T KNOW YOU DUNNO HMM THAT IS LOVELY WHAT DID YOU CALL IT NINJA HOMER SEE IT LOOKS LIKE HOMER SIMPSON HUH-HUH LOGO YEAH IT'S JUST A LOGO HUH NINJA HOMER MM THE THE RED IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT THE WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANNA PRINT ON THE SIDE OF IT MM-HMM I THINK IT'S QUITE NICE YOU CAN WEAR HOMER YOU CAN THROW HOMER WHEN YOU'RE FRUSTRATED DOH OH NO THAT'S COOL IT'S GOT I'M KIND OF I'M SLIGHTLY GUTTED THAT WE COULDN'T GET PLASTIC AND RUBBER I THINK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE AH WELL MAYBE FROM NOW ON REAL REACTION SHOULD GIVE US MORE MONEY OH I DID LEARN SOMETHING NEW PLAY DOH IS USEFUL NO IT IS IT IS IT IS USEFUL AND IN IN IN IN IN IN IN UM CONCEPTUALIZING IN BEING CREATIVE 'CAUSE LIKE YOU SAY IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN PUT YOUR HANDS ON AND FEEL AND TOUCH AND GET A SENSE FOR LIKE WE WERE PLAYING WITH THE PLAY DOH AND THE IDEAS CAME WITH THE PLAY DOH RATHER THAN WITH EVERYTHING ELSE YOU MIGHT WANNA WRITE THAT DOWN IT'S JUST I'M JUST FIDDLING WITH THE PLAY DOH AND I'M GOING YEAH YEAH IT'S KINDA COOL GUESS I'D FORGOT HOW GOOD S PLAY DOH SMELLS HMM AND SOME PLAY DOHS ARE ACTUALLY I THINK EDIBLE AREN'T THEY NO ALL PLAY DOH IS EDIBLE IT'S JUST WHEAT IT'S THE STUFF THAT YOUR MOM COULD MAKE WITH PRESERVATIVES AND UH WOW HMM IT'S HELPFUL TO THE CREATIVE PROCESS UM IT ENGAGES ALL YOUR SENSES NOT JUST YOUR SIGHT BUT YOUR SENSE OF FEEL YOUR SENSE OF TOUCH AND IT HELPS YOU TO UNDERSTAND DIMENSION AS WELL I THINK THAT THAT'S VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE IT IT STARTS TO POP UP WHEREAS ON A PIECE OF PAPER ON A COMPUTER ON A BOARD UM EVEN WITH A THREE D. GRAPHIC THING IT STILL IT REQUIRES A LOT OF YEAH TANGIBLE THAT'S A NICE WORD IT BECOMES TANGIBLE MM-HMM TANGIBLE OKAY UH MM I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS THAT THAT'S ABOUT IT REALLY JUST SIT STILL I GUESS FOR A LITTLE WHILE DO WE RETREAT TO OUR TO CONTINUE OUR I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY DO IT HERE AS LONG AS WE DON'T COLLABORATE UM I'M SURE THE LITTLE UH THE LITTLE THING'LL POP UP ANY MINUTE NOW CAN WE TURN OFF THE MICROPHONES YEAH YEAH IF THE MEETING'S OVER THEN YEAH I GUESS SO