You know what I mean Th if if it was like period capital SO saying as opposed to um That would be a problem so That would be a problem Right So It think it where the so is all by itself like So that would be a problem So You know the Some something from else Yeah the first one is like the so is connected to the sentence Bu And yeah problem so I like not not connected to that would be a problem like like introducing a new thing that they don't A talk Yeah subject about less Right yeah The first one So too is more like To me I don't necessarily put um like a d a p a p a period after that so I might actually either put a dash after it depending on whether or not they got unt interrupted or something or I would maybe even act as though they were um just trailing off Right that those two dots after it I do that too Um uh which depending on going on like do that Cuz to me Right sounds more like trailing off Sometimes Yeah it does sound like they ended a sentence and Yeah then Yeah Yeah do yeah Mmm sometimes just Right be hard so You Right know and but and Yeah ofte often it sounds like they were trying to think of something else to say but they couldn't really you know And then Yeah get interrupted and then I put a dash You know but I never usually put period and then new word so unless like end of the sentence and then So What are we gonna do now but they don't Mmm say that Yeah Yeah interesting that there are so many cases And I agree I th I think those are very good conventions I also like w you know this this whole point about how how that y th th the fact that raising this I li I like this example that um we have several things that are being cued by intonation Right because if if a f nice full falling intonational contour on a problem eh be a problem then I would think that there should be a period Period there Right Yeah Right And then especially if got a pause following it but you don't always y these things are correlated but not Yeah perfect thing is i if not a native speaker of English you might not pick up because uh you know every language has different um intonation mappings Yeah And one of the hardest parts about the native speakers is you Right don't know exactly like how to do the punctuation because their intonation is totally different You mean na I mean speakers Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah speakers is Yeah meant Yeah Absolutely Yeah Yeah absolutely a speaker transcribing it you true wouldn't necessarily kn uh kn understand the conventions of English t intonation Right as you know intimately as a native I speaker they might have native speaker transcribers transcribing that be something I ideally it would be nice to have like a Spaniard t tran transcribing the Oh y Oh yeah you mean Or not Oh meant but that would be cool be nice what I meant was that I would hope that for meetings in English you would have native speakers transcribing it because it you would I have agree more intuitions about what Yeah should be Yeah there Even if you can't fully understand the word you can make a guess you can Right that isn't completely off like some of these are but pretty rare those things the f the really bad mistakes that they make are pretty rare I think so I I OK So in terms of like when going through the Tigerfish transcripts you don't find a lot of these kinds of extreme cases Not this Not t so much OK No t I mean not twosome gruesome No not twosome gruesome Sometimes but they tend to be pretty good about parentheses Good Yeah Good to Yeah sometimes they p they usually put them in prethen parentheses and Yeah you think to yourself You were way off but Yeah least you knew you were way off Yeah Exactly Good just wonder like what influences them to think of twosome gruesome like maybe this person just saw a horror movie or something And uh this is Could be the interpretation that came to mind or something Yeah You know what I mean Like where would you get the word gruesome I don't know You know you just sort of pull it out of the air Well Anyway mean you get the GR from groups I guess but Yeah Yeah I don't know where the rest of it came from Uh groups of gruesome g Group OK Groups of gruesome got the uh S Yeah middle if for some reason they didn't hear the F if they didn't hear the fuh it might just sound Gruesome like Yeah grou uh gruesuh Yeah Yeah both labial would kind at of the have end come up with some sort of Groups consonant and maybe an M to you Well Right also Group Fff Because Gruesome groups also of mean groups F groups is group gruesome Fff groups is s um Fff I wonder where the P went though Right the P wasn't pronounced very Yeah well like groups of Yeah because um bilabial too Fff you know di uh or interl interdental fff you know close enough I guess to mmm you Nnn know guess getting the closure of the lips So maybe what they were do getting I don't know possible Hmm Hmm Well you know also this problem that they didn't have context to constrain the interpretation Yeah Yeah Yeah OK really hard th to not be able to go and listen to the other channels and figure out the context of Yeah occurring in Yeah when clearing the par parentheses I find that very useful I I Yeah sometimes I try to just go through and pick up the parentheses see if I can do it just by itself but it remarkable how sometimes something can be so totally opaque and then you go back to you know the previous utterance or you go to the mixed channel or you uh check on the other things and suddenly it becomes perfectly clear very very surprising Very surprising Yeah Good this other business um that you have at the bottom with people getting transcribed on another channel Yes is that uh about much more common I wasn't I couldn't u I don't know for some reason that didn't make sense to me But th about when things are transcribed on other channels Right set on OK And always funny to me is when th you know they m mi miss the gender completely like you know be on channel or just something bizarre like that Yeah Um so