SO ACTUALLY THE CREATIVITY WAS MORE MORE OF LIKE A UM A F SORT OF A F FORMALITY THEN AN ACTUAL YEAH WITHIN THE CONSTRAINTS THE YEAH YEAH YEAH SO YEAH SO STILL ON THE TOPIC OF ROOM FOR CREATIVITY UH NEXT UP IS CRAIG UM I AGREE WITH HIS POINT IT'S UM IT IS QUITE A LOT OF FUN T TO GO AND THEN YOU HAVE SORT OF HIT THE END THEN GO RIGHT GOTTA CUT EVERYTHING OUT 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY YEAH YEAH YEP I THINK ANOTHER POINT IS THAT THE MEETINGS UM ARE MORE BRAINSTORMING SESSIONS THAN MEETINGS SO TIME IS ALSO A VERY S UM STRONG FACTOR AND STRUCTURE BECAUSE FOR A BRAINSTORMING MEETING YOU WANT A STRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS YOU TO ALLOWS IDEAS TO GET TOSSED UM TO BE EVALUATED AND TO BE REVIEWED AND TO GET FEEDBACK AND COME BACK AND I GUESS THAT POINT ABOUT THE ROOM NOT BEING R VERY FRIENDLY TO THAT I THINK THAT'S A VERY BIG THING AND I THINK THE FACT THAT WE'RE WEARING THESE THINGS RESTRICTS I FEEL IT 'CAUSE I WEAR M MY GLASSES RIGHT AND THAT BUT THAT IRRITATES ME RIGHT IT IT IT DOES ACTUALLY YOU KNOW AFFECT HOW W WHETHER YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE TO COMMUNICATE I FEEL LIKE I'M HIDING BEHIND THE EQUIPMENT RATHER THAN THE EQUIPMENT IS HELPING ME AND YOU KNOW NOT NOT SO MUCH AN ATMOSPHERE THE ATMOSPHERE IS VERY RELAXED BUT THE THE GEAR YEAH YOU KNOW THAT CREATES BOUNDARIES TO THAT UM AND AND THE TIME THE TIME GIVEN ALSO RESTRICTS VERY GOOD UM WHAT ABOUT LEADERSHIP I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MEANS LIKE IF I DID A GOOD JOB OR SOMETHING I DON'T REALLY KNOW FROM LIKE YOUR PERSONAL COACH PERSON AND STUFF LIKE THAT DO YOU THINK MAYBE OKAY UM YEAH I THINK I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S GOOD I MEAN MY PERSONAL VIEWS ON ON LEADERSHIP IS THAT EFFECTIVE EFFECTIVE LEADERSHIP SORT OF UM GIVES PEOPLE A CERTAIN ROOM FOR FREEDOM AND DELEGATION BUT THEN TO COME BACK WITH SOMETHING THAT THEY TAKE GREAT OWNERSHIP AND MM-HMM IN IN REALITY I THINK HERE THE THE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF LEADERSHIP SUCH AS THE THE ORIGINAL B BRIEFING AND THEN THE PERSONAL COACH AND THE AND THEN YOU KNOW HAVING HAVING YOU WITH YOUR THE MEETING AGENDA IS ACTUALLY QUITE A QUITE A QUITE A CON CONFINING FRAMEWORK TO WORK WITHIN AND SO IT IS LEADERSHIP ALMOST TO THE POINT OF SORT OF DISEMPOWERING THE THE THE TEAM MEMBER SO BUT IT'S NOT BAD LEADERSHIP IT'S JUST SORT OF S FAIRLY STRONG YOU KNOW IT TURNS IT TURNS THE INDIVIDUAL INTO MORE OF LIKE A UM SORT OF A PREDETERMINED MECHANISM AS OPPOSED TO A SORT OF A FREE YEAH OH YEAH WITHOUT WITHOUT A DOUBT YEAH MAYBE NOT CO CONFINING I THINK STRUCTURE IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT EACH INDIVIDUAL IS STRUCTURED TO ONE PARTICULAR TASK AND ONE PARTI RATHER THAN CONTROLLING I DON'T THINK THERE'S A SENSE OF CONTROL 'CAUSE ALL THE DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE IN TERMS OF A LIKE A CONSENSUS RIGHT WE GO AROUND AND WE THINK ABOUT IT BUT THAT YOU KNOW PROCESS ACTUALLY SAYS YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN A CERTAIN WAY IT DOESN'T TELL YOU YOU KNOW SOME WAYS THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA BE A BIT MORE CREATIVE IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS YOU KNOW NOT THE OKAY UH WHAT ABOUT TEAMWORK UM DID YOU WANNA COMMENT CRAIG YEAH IF WE COULD JUST GO UP TO SOMEBODY OUTSIDE THE MEETING AND HAVE A QUICK TALK WITH THEM THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A LOT EASIER YEAH OKAY I THINK YOU TRIED TO USE THE COMMON SHARE FOLDER TO TO TO TO COMMUNICATE BUT UM IT JUST COMES BACK TO US SO SLOW IN THE EMAIL UM IT IT DOESN'T HAVE A YOU KNOW A MESSENGER WILL GO DID UH DID YOU GUYS GET THE EMAIL I SENT YOU OH THAT'S ALRIGHT I WAS WONDERING IF THAT GOT THERE OKAY OKAY UM SO UM TO S TO TO SUMMARIZE THE TEAMWORK ISSUE SAYING THAT IF WE COULD COMMUNICATE OUTSIDE THE MEETING YOU KNOW JUST LIKE QUICK QUESTIONS QUICK THOUGHTS WHATEVER IT PROBABLY WOULD BE BIT EASIER MM-HMM MM-HMM MM-HMM EXACTLY YEAH I MEAN IF YOU YEAH I MEAN SORT OF TAKING UPON THAT IDEA W THE WAY I SEE THIS I IS THAT IT'S UH THE THE S THE STRUCTURE IN WHICH WE'VE WE'VE APPROACHED THIS WHOLE TASK IS QUITE CONTRARY TO THE P PRINCIPLE OF TEAMWORK BECAUSE THE THE TASKS WERE D D SORT OF UM DIVIDED AND THEN THE WORK WENT ON IN ISOLATION I I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GUYS DID WHILE YOU WERE TOGETHER MAYBE THAT WAS A BIT DIFFERENT BUT UM YEAH BUT UM BUT ACTUALLY IF YOU IF YOU IMAGINE NOT ENTIRE THE COMPLETELY SAME TASK GIVEN TO US BUT US SAID OKAY FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DO IS COME UP WITH UM LET'S SAY UM A DESIGN CONCEPT AND WE SIT HERE TOGETHER AND DO IT WELL THAT'S WHAT TEAMWORK IS TO S TO SAY OKAY GO OFF AND DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER IT'S ACTUALLY P SORT OF PREDISPOSES YOU TO QUITE THE CONTRARY OF TEAMWORK UM NOT THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE I THINK THE BEST WE COULD HAVE DONE I'M NOT DISSATISFIED WITH IT RIGHT UH ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY ON TEAMWORK AT ALL OKAY UM WHAT ABOUT THE YOU KNOW HOW WE USED THE WHITEBOARD THE DIGITAL PENS THE PROJECTOR STUFF LIKE THAT UM DID ANYBODY THINK ANYTHING WAS LIKE REALLY USEFUL ANYTHING WAS PRETTY UN F UNSUPPORTIVE BUT IT'S UM NOT QUITE AS USEFUL AS TO US AS IT COULD HAVE BEEN MAYBE JUST IN THE WAY THAT WE WE USE IT IN THE SENSE THAT ONCE WE HAVE AN IDEA OUT THERE OR WHILE WORK WAS GOING ON IN BETWEEN MEETINGS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN UP ON A BOARD UH YOU KNOW AS OPPOSED TO IN LIKE IN TEXT UM AND THEN WE COULD THEN KEEP OUR IDEAS SORT OF BUILDING ON THAT I KNOW THAT PEOPLE WHO DESIGN CARS AND YOU KNOW IN AVIATION THEY QUITE OFTEN JUST HAVE A SIMPLE LIKE FIBREGLASS PROTOTYPE AND IT'S COMPLETELY YOU KNOW UM ABS ABSTRACT FROM THE FINAL PRODUCT BUT THEY USE IT AS A KIND OF A CONTEXT TO SORT OF WALK AROUND AND PUZZLE AND AND POINT AND DISCUSS AND AND AND IN A WAY EVERYBODY'S AS WE DISCUSS THINGS IN THE IN THEORETICALLY AND OUT OF OUR NOTEBOOKS WE'RE JUST WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST EACH OF US DISCUSSING SOMETHING THAT'S IN EACH OF OUR OWN MINDS IT WASN'T UNTIL WE HAD THIS HERE YOU KNOW LIKE AT ONE POINT I PEEKED ACROSS AND LOOKED AT CRAIG'S PAPER AND I'M LIKE NOW I KNOW WHAT HE'S THINKING 'CAUSE I SAW HIS BOOK BUT THE B THE B WHITEBOARD COULD'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THIS KIND OF CONTINUING UM SO DO YOU THINK PRODUCING A PROTOTYPE EARLIER IN THE PROCESS WOULDA BEEN A GOOD IDEA THINK COULD BE YEAH