JUST GO ON THEN WE'LL SEE UH WE'LL WE'LL SEE UH WHA HOW MUCH WE ARE OVER BUDGET OKAY COULD YOU STEP A LITTLE TO THE RIGHT MA YEAH OH SORRY TWO UH RUBBER YOU AND ZERO SPECIAL UH IS THE SPECIAL COLOUR MM YEAH BUT WE WANT TO MAKE UH THE WOOD COLOURS UH THAT UH YEAH BUT BUT D BUT DANIEL THA THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER BRAND THAT'S ANOTHER ARTICLE TO SELL YEAH YEAH BUT WE WE GOING TO YEAH YEAH THAT'S TRUE BUT YEAH IT'S IT'S IT PRODUCING THIS OKAY THE PUSH BUTTON NO NO SCROLL WHEEL NO NO OH NO YES ONE UH BUTTON NO NO THE THE WE DON'T HAVE A S NO OKAY OH OKAY SO UM WHAT'S THE THING WE CAN CHANGE NO NO YEAH YEAH OF COURSE JUST CUT OFF THE KINE YEAH OR YEAH YEAH WE JUST PUT A GOOD BATTERY IT IT MOBILE PHONES NOWADAYS DANIEL WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT HERE WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT UH PUTTING A BATTERY IN IT BUT ALSO SELLING LIKE UH THE COVERS A DOCKING STATION JUST APART FROM THE FROM THE THING SO THAT YOU CAN UH PUT UH RECHARGEABLE BATTERIES IN IT AND JUST YEAH AND NOT REALLY BUT WE IF YOU FORGET ABOUT THE KINETIC WELL IF WE DO THAT WE SHALL AH SO UM YEAH OF COURSE AND THAT WOULD SOLVE THE BUDGET PROBLEM UH B BUT I BUT THE SINGLE CURVED IS JUST OH OH OKAY OKAY SO THAT'S WH THA THAT'S ONE OPTION AND THEN W YEAH AND THEN WE COULD HAVE IT BUT UH IT'S ITS' WELL IT'S IT'S R IT IS THE MAIN POINT OF THE THE THE THE LOOK WE GOING TO CUT NO THO UH THAT THAT CAN BE DONE SO UH OKAY A LITTLE LESS UH CONVERSATION SORRY FILL IN JUST A OKAY EXPLANATION I CAN DELETE IT FOR YOU IF YOU WANT NO NO NO SO IF WE DO THIS UH WE'RE ON UH TWELVE AND A HALF EURO AND WE'RE DONE YEAH BUT DOES IT FIT WITH OUR DESIGN DO WE HAVE TO U ADAPT IT IT'S SINGLE CURVES YEAH W SO YEAH WE JUST MAKE IT FLAT BUT YOU DO L MORE YEAH YOU MAKE IT OPTIONAL NO BUT DOES IT HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA UH FUN FUNCTION MORE LIKE UH THERE'S AN A A ATHE AESTHETIC VALUE BUT NOT FUNCTIONALITY YEAH UH AESTHETIC YEAH I MEAN UH YOU MAKE LIKE ELEVEN AND A HALF EUROS PROFIT INSTEAD OF TWELVE AND A HALF BUT I DON'T KNOW IF TWELVE AND A HALF IS UH A FIXED UH FIXED PRICE YEAH WELL LET'S ASSUME IT IS WE WE SHOULD ASSUME IT I THAT IT IS BUT I I FIGURED THAT THE KINETIC WOULD BE A MARKETING PROMOTION R IF YOU UH PROMOTE A KINETIC UM I KINETIC REMOTE CONTROL I MEAN THAT WOULD B SELL BETTER THAN AN A NORMAL REMOTE CONTROL YEAH DO YOU THINK WELL NOW YOU CAN SHAKE YOUR REMOTE CONTROL KINETIC YEAH WHAT A WHAT ABOUT ALL THE M THE ENVIRONMENT FREAKS NOT FREAKS THE ENVI SO TRUE IT LOOK LIKE THIS ONE YOU MA CAN MAKE AN AN ESPECIALISED EXTRA GOLD VERSION AND I THINK NOW IT'S IT'S MORE OF UH A COMPROMISE YEAH THING AND IF YOU MAKE THE SINGLE CURVE HA JUST A BIG CURVE THEN IT'S UH THEN IT'S UH YEAH ONE BIG GOOD CURVE I WAS GOING TO UH SAY NASTY WORDS BUT I DON'T THIS IS STRANGE BY THE WAY WOOD IS M IS IS IS CHEAPER THAN RUBBER WE THOUGHT THAT WOOD WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE YOU JUST CUT DOWN SOME TREES YEAH MAYBE BUT UH THAT THIS IS THIS IS IT YEAH OKAY THIS IS IT I'M GONNA SAVE IT YEAH IT IS POSSIBLE BUT YOU CAN'T USE DOUBLE UH CURVES FOR TITANIUM THAT'S ONE OF THE FUNCTIONABILITY UH CONSIDERING WE HAVE AH NO WE HAVE TO DO ALL THOSE HOURS AGAIN GO BACK ONE BACK COSTS ON UH NO REDESIGN YEAH WE SUE WE YEAH WE'LL START HER ALL O ALL OVER AGAIN UH SOME UH THINGS WERE THERE UH ROOM FOR UH WAS THERE ROOM FOR CREATIVITY IN OUR MEETINGS OR IN YOUR INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS I I DIDN'T THINK SO THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF ROOM FOR IT BUT THAT'S MAINLY BECAUSE UH OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS DELIVERED TO US IT WAS JUST FIXED INFORMATION AND GET YOUR STUFF FROM THERE AND I COULDN'T GO ON ON I ON THE INTERNET AND SEARCH MY OWN STUFF BU THAT'S TRUE I AGREE WITH THAT WELL I TH I THINK YOU TWO UH ESPECIALLY YOU AND UH AND UH DANIEL YOU D YOU YOU BOTH HAD UH THE LESS CREATIVE UH ROLES IN THE PROJECT THAT'S TRUE FOR US THERE WAS A LOT OF CREATIVITY WE COULD JUST SIGN UP AN UH REMOTE IF WE LIKED YEAH YEAH THAT'S TRUE I THINK JEROEN AND I WE HAD A MORE DESIGN WE COULD HAVE MORE WE HAD MORE ROOM FOR CREATIVITY THAN THAN YOU TWO YEAH YEAH THAT'S TRUE OKAY UH HOW ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP LEADERSHIP WAS UH CRAPPY NAH THE LEADERSHIP WASN'T CRAPPY IT WAS THE LEADER THAT WAS CRAPPY NAH NO THE LEADERSHIP WAS OKAY NO LEADERSHIP WAS UH OKAY YEAH YEAH IT WAS GOOD YEAH THAT'S TRUE BUT YOU COULD HAVE UH STRUCTURE IT A L LITTLE BIT MORE SO LIKE I I WAS TALKING MOST OF THE TIME THE FIRST MEETING MEETING AND YEAH BUT I WAS A I WAS ALSO VERY UH UNHAPPY UH VERY UNSATISFIED UH ABOUT THE ABOUT ME YEAH YOU MADE UP GET BETTER AND UH I THINK THE THE LAST TWO MEETINGS UH ALSO WE WE REACHED UH SOME GOOD DECISIONS ABOUT UH TALK YEAH MUCH MORE CONSTRUCTIVE UH TEAMWORK WELL MAYBE THAT'S UH ONLY YEAH WELL IT'S FOR US BECAUSE UH YEAH YEAH AND IT'S WO MORE LIKE PRESENTATION AND SOME POINTS WERE DISCUSSED BUT REALLY TEAMWORK WERE YOU TWO UH TWO GUYS THE IT'S IT'S JUST UH NAH YEAH WE WE HAD SOME TROUBLE WITH THE PEN BUT NOW YOU YOU MUST PUSH A LITTLE WHILE YEAH BUT BUT DRAW SOMETHING UH DIFFICULT D UH JUST WRITE YOUR NAME RIGHT NOW TRY TO WRITE YOUR NAME IN IN WRITING LETTERS OF COURSE YEAH YEAH NORMALLY UH THIS UH THE W BLOCK LETTER SIGN IT YEAH O JUST UH OKAY IF IT'S A LITTLE BIT TOO SMALL BIT QUICKER NOW IT DIDN'T UH HE HE KNOWS HOW IT WORKS YEAH I FOLLOW THE MASTER CLASS FOR THE SMARTBOARD SO I THINK THAT'S THE THAT'S THE MAIN ISSUE UM SO UH ABOUT THIS ONE YOU WERE UH YOU'RE DEALING WITH UM THE THE THE THE DIGITAL PEN THE IDEA IS GREAT BUT IT DOESN'T WORK PROPERLY UH YEAH BUT A AND THE FIRST TWO MEETINGS I BROUGHT IT WITH ME BUT I DIDN'T USE IT AT ALL AFTER THE FIRST THE FIRST MEETING IT'S IT'S NOT REAL REAL USE FOR ME HUH NEE