UH ONE WITH A WITH A MENU AND ONE WITHOUT A MENU AND THE ONE WITH WITH A MENU HAS AN L. C. D. UNBELIEVABLE DO I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING BLANK YOU HAVE NOT SO DIFFICULT YEAH UH THAT'S THE MENU THERE FOR THE L. C. D. SCREEN YES BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHICH OF THE SCROLL BUTTONS YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE YOU HAVE TO FOR THE MENU YEAH MM-HMM ONE THAT WAY AND ONE THAT WAY SO THEN IT DEPENDS ON THE COST S ON AND OFF BUT IS IT EASY TO USE WHEN YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR LEFT SIDE AND WHEN IT'S NOT TOO BIG JUST LIKE A A PHONE MM-HMM M UH YEAH MAYBE IT'S BETTER IF THE UH SCROLL WHEELS ARE UM MORE SEPARATE YEAH LIKE YOU HAVE THE MENU BUTTON IN BETWEEN UH ON THE LEFT A SCROLL BUTTON AND ON THE RIGHT A SCROLL BUTTON BUT WOULD IT BE EASY TO USE THEN IF IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE A BIG UH VERY GOOD IS IT BETTER WHEN YOU UH THE MENU YOU HAVE TO GO THERE THERE THERE THERE I ALSO THINK THIS CONCEPT IS NOT WHAT THE YOUNG PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR THEY WERE LIKE ROUND CURVES UH DIFFERENT UH THAT'S THAT'S THE OUTSIDE BUT NOW THE FIRST THE BUTTONS MM-HMM THINK WE HAVE WE HAVE NOW TWO BUTTONS MISSING THE UH UM THE MUTE BUTTON SORRY WE HAVE TWO BUTTONS MISSING THE MUTE BUTTON AND UM THE TO TO UH HAVE TO UH NUMBERS MUTE AND THE OTHER OKAY BUT UH PERSONALLY I THINK TWO SCROLL BUTTONS UH AREN'T EASY TO HANDLE BUT HOW DO YOU WANNA SOLVE IT WITH THE SWITCH BUTTON YEAH BUT ON THE MENU THAT'S NOT UH EASY NO LIKE UH OH YOU MEAN LIKE THAT UH THEN YOU CAN ALSO HAVE LIKE UH TH UM A JOYSTICK YEAH AND JOYSTICK I THINK YEAH BUT IS IT UH DOES THAT BREAK A JOYSTICK OR A SMALL ONE JUST LIKE IN A LAPTOP YEAH LIKE IN A LAPTOP S UH S SOME SORT OF THING A LITTLE BIT BIGGER WITH EASIER THI BUT HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS I DON'T KNOW OH WHY DO I PAY YOU FOR UM WELL UM BETTER IDEAS OKAY OR NO SCROLL UH THINGS JUST A SHAPE AND NO NO IT WON'T WORK YEAH UH-HUH SO THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM OR A REMOTE CONTROL MORE LIKE JOYSTICK YEAH BUT IS IT THAT'S NOT EXPENSIVE THAN UH JOYSTICK IS BETTER A SMALL ONE A SMALL ONE LIKE THIS LIKE A NINTENDO UH K NO JUST LIKE IN A PLAYSTATION THING A LAPTOP SMALL ROUND THEN IT'S NOT SO BIG NO NO NO I MEAN THE THE SHAPE OF THE REMOTE CONTROL JUST LIKE A PLAYSTATION THING YEAH SO MAYBE IF IT'S POSSIBLE IT'S NOT TOO EXPENSIVE I THINK A JOYSTICK IS BETTER A SMALL ONE SO PLEASE LOOK AT IT NO THAT'S OKAY I GOT AND ON THE L. C. D. HOW MUCH IT COSTS UH IT COSTS EXTRA UH THEY'RE NOT UH IN DETAILS IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE OR LESS EXPENSIVE HUH SO AFTER THIS MEETING YOU HAVE HALF AN HOUR TO UH FIX IT THEN I HAVE TO COME WITH IT YES I I DON'T I DON'T KNOW THE COSTS YOUR PROBLEM NOT MINE THEN I'LL UH MAKE SOMETHING UP OKAY SO DO WE HAVE OTHER CONCEPTS THEN FOR THE COMPONENTS WE USE A NORMAL BATTERY MM YEAH YEAH OR THE OR THE KINETIC UH WITH NORMAL BATTERY YEAH I THINK IT'S UH YEAH MORE EXPENSIVE YEAH SO WE USE A NORMAL BATTERY YEAH CHIP DEPENDS ON THE L. C. D. DEPENDS ON THE SCROLL SCROLL IF WE DON'T USE A SCROLL THEN WE CAN USE THE SIMPLE CHIP AND THAT'S UH THE MOST EXPENSIVE YEAH SO DEPENDS ON THE L. C. D. AND THE SCROLL OKAY SO I HAVE THIS SO IT WILL BE UH THE ADVANCED CHIP OR THE UH REGU UH OR THE REGULAR CHIP OKAY SO UH THE SHAPES OF THE DESIGN DEPENDS ON THE L. C. D. AND BUT IT HAS TO BE SMALL I THINK OR SHALL WE JUST PUT IT ON THE PISTOL THING AND THEN JUST PUT ALSO ON L. C. D. ON IT IF YOU HAVE PISTOL IT L. C. D. 'S NOT EASY Y Y YEAH BUT IF YOU USE A PHONE K YEAH BUT BUT THEN YOU HAVE IT LIKE TH IF YOU HAVE PISTOL YOU HAVE IT SO AND THE SCREEN IS WELL THEN YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT THIS WAY TO LOOK AT THE SCREEN NO IF YOU HAVE LIKE UH AN UH UH A NI A UH PLAYSTATION UH GAME CONTROLLER AND YOU MOVE UP F FORWARD DOWN LEFT THEN YOU HAVE UH JUST YEAH A LITTLE BIT CURVED IT'S NOT JUST UH STRAIGHT THAT'S HOW WE USE IT THAT'S WHY THEY MAKE JOYSTICKS LIKE THAT I THINK YEAH BUT THEN YOU LOOK FORWARD AND THEN YOU CAN Y YEAH N WELL IF YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT 'KAY HERE'S OUR DESIGNER IF WE HAVE UH THEN SOMETHING STANDING HERE WITH THE L. C. D. YEAH THEN IT GOES LIKE THIS YEAH WHY NOT IF TH N WELL IT'S FOR THE YOUNGER PEOPLE IT'S SOMETHING NEW IT'S UH NOW WE PUT UH RUBBER AROUND IT OKAY IF THAT'S POSSIBLE HARD PLASTIC UH THE SHAPE AND AROUND IT HARD UH AROUND IT RUBBER AND THE UH THE HAND SHAPE IS ALSO RUBBER OKAY I CAN'T SEE THE TURN IT INSIDE BUT UH THE EASY OF UH TH THE EASE OF USE WASN'T UH THE MOST IMPORTANT UH ASPECT OF IT HUH NO THAT'S TRUE UH FOR US IT'S ABOUT TO SELL IT UH YEAH OF COURSE OKAY THEN THIS IS THE DESIGN AND THE BUTTONS ARE ON THE NEXT PAGE SO DEPENDS ON THE COST SO UM WE HAVE ONE MINUTE ONE I THINK NO MORE SEVEN NEXT MEETING THIRTY MINUTES SO HURRY UP OH THAT'S US TOGETHER YOU TWO STAY HERE PAINT IT OKAY NOW YOU HAVE TO SO I THINK IT'S CLEAR CHECK YOUR MAIL SO YEAH YES IT HAS TO BE READY IN THE NEXT MEETING SO NEXT MEETING IS CALLED THE DETAILED DESIGN SO EVERYTH EVERYTHING HAS TO BE READY OKAY THANKS FOR YOUR ATTENTION SEE YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING BYE BYE