dependent only on the speaker not on the meeting You could imagine then having another form that you might want to do during a meeting to get out the relationships But then interfering with the meeting So what I like about this information is you give it to them once and they fill it out once and and then you have that information and I also discussed the idea of having the separate would handle maybe s specific things that might be DTD uh the data so that you know his XML thing You got Oh the Data Type Definition the Oh Ah Document Type Yeah Definition p part that Yeah can s be used for DTD relational things yeah I guess I guess it seems to me like you know I trying to deduce information about the status from the meeting independent form will be useless because Not at all I mean the fact that one an undergrad and the a full professor is interesting So the question is how much of this information um But that can will y depend on what the about right Well say the absolutely was an expert in physics you and want to have that information Right So if you don't have that information how are you gonna do anything guess wondering how can you make a conclusion yeah based on that This is if just don't know about the meeting Well you know talking at at a general level of description You can always get more specific And I it so may what be suggest I don't know just why I was wondering about Right you can put something about Can the you repeat the Yeah categories you had Maybe Undergrad Grad Professor Other So that yeah I think fine except the one thing is there are a lot of ICSI v like I don't know what I would be here just not a professor not a So right so I anything Professor a Visitor r ICSI Visitor or ICSI y I mean a Visiting S Yeah when Researcher Professor whatever guess what I was thinking in my mind was more PHD but not How about So Yeah if and if we can put something researcher or Yeah something that then then I think what you have is great Yeah Right So that change purpose Would we and change to or just Researcher Or maybe change to PHD You could Because say I think PHD and Professor are d are Yeah distinct aren't Yeah they a PHD Like if you Someone PHD PHD and hanging around here and not a professor and not a then like what we are so Yeah so for for me a bunch of people like There that people Um this got very tricky in fact when we got involved with the Spanish program actually because uh when we said in our original forms what we were Yeah used to from the German program and from the US standard when you say it meant somebody who had just gotten a PHD Right who was doing one year someplace But when we did Yeah Spanish call many people said oh I want to be uh have a slot Yeah they were twenty years out Right Yeah because they were post their doc Yeah Yeah So Yeah you can so Sure Researcher or I what Right think that one more category sort of general might like be that hard to do a finer thing than that because whether somebody is going to be dominant in a meeting is really I think going to be so clouded by everything else Someone just gotten their PHD uh could be very very uh strongly opinionated about something and somebody been twenty years out could be shy maybe Undergrad Yeah s Grad and Other Other um other European If You i I allow you could keep could Professor be you could say Post PHD Researcher or something instead of instead of Professor or instead of No instead of Post or just wrap all the people that are post PHD and together you want Professor to be in a separate category you think you think uh think as I said I think Undergrad professors probably want it I don't care Undergrad Grad Professor Other Well yeah the one is the one that can be like Post or Researcher or whatever Yeah Right Then be fine I think fine tending to push toward simpler even though I know that more detailed means more potential information for someone later doing research in in this area I uh The the the thing making me lean toward simpler where possible is that uh the more a thing Many of the meetings that we record uh may be the kind where we just record somebody once even though we want to get a lot of data that has uh many meetings with the same people And so the more forms we have and the more lines in the forms th the more overhead for that one time thing makes it harder to do true Well the whole reason that doing it this way is is uh my experience so far has been the exact reverse That Right what done so far Right Right And so saying I expect us to do both kinds I guess we could have another type of form for Yeah Well frequent thing so you understand he he d he wants you to do this only once for each person Yes OK OK So saying So are going to be What I imagine once collected a lot of data a chunk of it will be uh the same people many times and another chunk of it will be people random meetings that we got Yeah with from different people and I think use talked about this before useful to have both kinds of data I think Well I think that if if planning to do that then we should probably have another set of forms OK You know a single form the consent form and the speaker information form and not have them do digits OK No I like the idea of putting down the the status information because I think you probably can get a lot of interest there can be a lot of interesting research on that wondering could we add something to the form that gets filled out at each meeting that would somehow This is a topic I want to bring up Yeah after I get through this OK So that that another form that I want to discuss um with the Well digits forms guess So was s thinking can we get maybe you know how you were taking information off of the digits and putting it onto that Could we put one more thing on here what maybe want to talk about in a Yeah I have that as a topic also OK Cuz finish said with separate speaker forms form so I thought maybe speaker form and then get over o OK over to that one So Education Level Undergrad Grad Professor Other OK OK