This is something you ha you get used to as a programmer right You know and cool it works out that way Hmm So the the people at Saarbruecken and I decided not to touch it ever again Yeah that would work OK Um I was gonna ask you where something is and what we know about that Where Where Where where X is what construction this is OK Oh but by Uh we can ask uh did you get to read all four hundred words Was it I OK Was it I Yeah wa I was looking at it It doesn't follow logically It doesn't The first paragraph doesn't seem to have any link to the second paragraph And so on Hmm That Yeah You know i Yeah it Each paragraph is good though I li I i Yeah Well it fine It was written by committee Anyway Um But c the meeting looks like gonna be good So Yeah I think uh Yeah I didn't know about it until Robert told me like Yeah I I ra I ran across it in I don't even know where you know some just some weird place And uh yeah I surprised I didn't know about it Y since yeah know Well speakers why an didn't Dan tell me Right or some Right Anyway So But anyway yeah I so I I did see that Oh wha Yeah Before we get started on this st so I also had a nice email correspondence with Daphne Kohler who said yes indeed she would love to work with us on the um you know using these structured and stuff but starting in August that also got a new student working on this and that we should get in touch with them again in August and then figure out a way for you uh you to get seriously connected with um their group So uh looks pretty good And um Yeah say it now So um And it looks to me like now at a good point to do something start working on something really hard been so far working on things that are easy Oh Uh w Which is mental spaces and uh Hmm hard Huh Yeah hard a hard Yeah puzzle Yeah But the other part of it is the way they connect to these uh probabilistic relational models So all the problems that the linguists know about about mental spaces and the cognitive linguists know about but then this problem of the people have only done a moderately good job of dealing with temporal Uh which they call dynamic they incorrectly Mmm call dynamic So a term dynamic doesn't mean that It means time slices And Srini used those and people use them Uh But one of the things I w would like to do over the next uh month it may take more is to st understand to what extent we can not only figure out the constructions for them for multiple worlds and uh sort of what the formalism will look like and where the slots and fillers will be but also what that would translate into in terms of and the inferences So the story is that if you have these probabilistic relational models set up in principle so that you can make new instances and instances connect to each other and all that sort of stuff so it should be feasible to set them up in such a way that if got the past tense and the present tense and each of those is a separate uh belief structure that they do their inferences with just the couplings that are appropriate But g as far as I can tell putting together two real hard problems One is the linguistic part of what are the couplings and and when you have a certain uh construction that implies certain couplings and other couplings you know between say between the past and the present or any other one of these things and then we have this inference problem of exactly technically how does the work if got um say one in in you know different tenses or my beliefs and your beliefs or any of these other ones of of multiple models So um you know in the long run we need to solve both of those and my suggestion is that we start digging into them both uh in a way we that you know th hopefully turns out to be consistent so that the Um And sometimes actually easier to solve two hard problems than one Yeah because they constrain each other I mean if got huge ra huge range of possible choices um see But anyway so um Oh yeah like uh I solved the the problem of um we were talking about how do you various issues of how come a plural noun gets to quote count as a noun phrase you know occur as an argument of a higher Right construction but a bare singular stem doesn't get to act that way Um and it would take a really long time to explain it now but about to write it up this evening I solved that at the same time as how do we keep adjectives from floating to the left of determiners and how do we keep all of that from floating outside the noun phrase to get something like I the kicked dog Um great it did it at once So maybe maybe Cool be a similar know thing I th I I think that is gonna be sort of the key to this wh to th the big project of the summer of of getting the constructions right is that people do manage to do this so there probably are some uh relatively clean rules just not trees Right And if we if the formalism is is good then we should be able to have you know sort of moderate scale thing And that by the way is is Keith what I encouraged George to be talking with you about Not the formalism yet but the phenomena Yeah The p And Oh another thing um there was this uh thing that Nancy agreed to in a in a weak moment this morning Hmm that I was really strong Hmm Hmm Uh sorry In a in a friendly moment Same thing Anyway uh that we were that gonna try to get a uh first cut at the revised formalism by the end of next week OK Alright Probably skipping the mental Seems spaces part Right I do Uh just trying to write up essentially what what you guys have worked out so that everybody has something to look at talked about it but only the innermost inner group currently uh knows OK uh and not even all of them really do Yeah But like The group as a whole knows but no individual member Well kno that that yeah th one of the advantages of a document right Yeah is is Right that it actually transfers from head to head So OK So Ah um communication Huh Communication Communication Hunh