BUT THEY ARE ALL YOU KNOW MOBILE PHONES UM THEY'VE KIND OF TAKEN A TURN TO WHERE THEY'RE REALLY SMALL UM WHICH MAY DEFEAT OUR PURPOSE FOR BEING ABLE TO LOCATE OUR REMOTE ALL THE TIME BUT THEN AGAIN YOU DON'T WANT YOU KNOW LIKE THE FIRST MOBILE PHONE THAT WAS THIS BIG AND YOU HAD A HANDBAG TO CARRY IT AROUND IN UM SO WE'VE GOT BASICALLY WHAT REMOTES LOOK LIKE NOW IS KIND OF WHAT WE'RE WHAT WE'RE STUCK WITH UM MAYBE WE COULD GO WITH A SQUARE OR SOMETHING UM HM UM YOU KNOW WITH MINIMAL NUMBER OF BUTTONS I GUESS YOU'VE GOT YOU KNOW ONE THROUGH NINE FOR TYPING IN YOUR CHANNELS UH YOU'VE GOT VOLUME UP AND DOWN CHANNEL UP AND DOWN POWER POWER USUALLY AT THE TOP UM A MUTE THAT'S THE CLASSICAL DESIGN UM A MENU BUTTON MAYBE RIGHT SO YOU KNOW IF YOU IF WE WANT THE REMOTE TO DO OTHER THINGS LIKE UM OR I GUESS THE T. V. TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE TINT AND THE COLOUR AND YOU KNOW ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE BUILT INTO T. V. S WE JUST HAVE THAT UNDER ONE STANDARD MENU BUTTON WHERE YOU GO IN PRESS THE MENU BUTTON SCROLL UP AND DOWN TO SELECT IT YEAH YEAH TALKING OF WHICH MAYBE A SCROLLING FUNCTION IS NOT NOT TOO BAD 'KAY SO TALK ABOUT MAYBE F LOOK AT THAT FROM THE SIDE THERE MAYBE WHICH IS TECHNICALLY THE EASIEST OPTION WOULD PROBABLY BE LIKE A SCROLLING LITTLE SCROLLING WHEEL LIKE THIS YEAH YEAH YEAH SO YEAH SORT OF LIKE THAT YOU CAN EVEN IF WE'RE COMING FROM MICE WE CAN EVEN ADD A CLICK FUNCTION WHERE YOU IN ORDER TO VERIFY THE INFORMATION YOU JUST PRESS IT DOWN RIGHT ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO THE ERGONOMICS OF THE WHOLE THING IF YOU WANNA MAKE IT SQUARE FOR THE LOOKS OF IT THEN MAYBE TO MAKE IT MORE COMFORTABLE TO HOLD THE WHOLE THING YOU ADD A LITTLE BULGE DOWN HERE JUST WHICH MAYBE FROM AN ENGINEERING POINT THIS COULD BE HOLDING THE THE BATTERIES AND SO ON MM-HMM I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING AT HERE FEL LOOK AT IT FROM THE SIDE IT'S LIKE THAT RIGHT UH THEN YOU HOLD IT IN YOUR HAND LIKE THIS AND MAYBE YOU BRING THE BUTTONS NEARER TO THE OR THE IMP MORE IMPORTANT BUTTONS NEARER TO THE TO THE SIDE RIGHT MM MAYBE THE BUTTONS COULD LIKE UH DECREASE IN S THE BIGGER ONES YOU KNOW THEY COULD ACTUALLY BE BIGGER IN SIZE THAN THE ONES THAT ARE LESS IMPORTANT THE SMALLER HERE RIGHT YOU CAN ALSO HAVE IT MAYBE TALKING ABOUT MOBILE PHONES AGAIN SLIDING OPEN YEAH BEHIND DEFINITELY JUST LIKE O ON A SORT OF SIDE VIEW SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW IT WOULD SORT OF FIT IN THE HAND BETTER SO YOU KNOW YOU JUST SORT OF HAVE YOUR HAND MM WELL I WAS JUST THINKING THIS THIS OF COURSE CAUSES CAUSES A PROBLEM UM FOR LEFT OR RIGHT HANDED PEOPLE ACTUALLY SO INSTANTLY SORT OF ALWAYS GOING FOR THE RIGHT HANDED PERSON RIGHT BUT I MEAN THE OLDER SO RIGHT RIGHT HANDED YEAH SO I'M LEFT HANDED BUT I SO I CAN SAY THAT MOST THINGS ARE DESIGNED FOR RIGHT HANDED PEOPLE THAT'S RIGHT OR ENGLISH MAYBE YOU COULD BUY LIKE A SPECIAL LEFT HANDED VERSION OF THE REMOTE SPECIAL ORDER I WOULD SAY I MEAN IT SHOULD BE PROBABLY DESIGNED FOR A RIGHT HANDED P PERSON YEAH UM BUT THAT'S THAT'S GOOD THAT'S W I THINK WE'VE GOT A KIND OF A GOOD PLAN THERE UM AT LEAST FOR WHAT BUTTONS WE'RE GONNA USE UM SO WE'VE GOT UH I LIKE THE SCROLL THE SCROLL ACTION AND THE I MEAN I'M JUST JUST THINKING MAYBE IF IT WAS UM CIRCULAR UM WITH THE SORT OF THAT SORT OF THE SORT OF EARLY IDEA WE HAD WITH THE WAY THAT WAS MORE LIKE THAT WHEREAS THIS IS JUST A ONE HANDED THING THAT YOU SORT OF ALMOST WRAP ROUND THE THUMB SO YOU'D HAVE YOUR YOU'D PUT YOUR HAND INTO THERE WITH THE THUMB THERE AND THEN YOUR THUMB WOULD DO YOU'D HAVE ALL THE BUTTONS SORT OF ROUND HERE AND THAT I THINK COULD WORK ON ANY HAND IF YOU JUST HAD IT LIKE WRAPPED ROUND THERE LEFT OR RIGHT MM RIGHT THAT MINIMISES IT SIZE WISE AS WELL MM THEN THERE'S MAYBE ANOTHER POINT OF MAKING IT A TWO IN ONE KIND OF THING IF WE HAVE A SMALLER A SMALLER DEVICE THAT ACTUALLY FITS INTO THE BIG ONE YOU GIVE IT THE FULL FUNCTIONS IN HERE AND JUST A COUPLE OF FUNCTIONS IN THERE LIKE YOUR ZAP ZAPPING DEVICE IS JUST U CHANNELS UP DOWN UH VOLUME AND ON OFF THAT'S IT COULD BE GOOD SO TWO REMOTES IN ONE BUT THEN WOULD BE EASIER TO LOSE ONE OR THE OTHER THAT'S RIGHT MEANS THE BIG ONE HAS TO BE SUFFICIENTLY BIG AND PERHAPS HEAVY SO YOU CAN'T MOVE IT AROUND IT ACTUALLY IS YOUR COFFEE TABLE YES THERE YOU GO OR A STATUE OR SOMETHING OKAY WELL WE NEED TO FINISH UP HERE UM SO FOR THE NEXT SO FOR THE NEXT UM BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING W UH SH SHALL WE WORK ON YOU'RE WATCHING TRENDS TO SEE WHAT WHAT KIND OF NEW INFORMATION WE'VE GOT GOING ON UM MANUEL YOU'RE GOING TO WORK ON THE COMPONENTS FOR FOR WHAT WE'RE GONNA USE LET'S GO WITH OUR OUR UH ROUNDED KIND OF FIT IN YOUR HAND LET'S EXPLORE UH THE THE UH POSSIBILITY OF HAVING THE TWO PIECE SO ONE FOR THE THE QUICK ZAPPING UM AND POSSIBLY ONE YOU KNOW WITH JUST THAT ROUNDED PART THAT FITS INTO YOUR HAND UM AND RYAN YOU WORK ON UM HOW HOW WELL THEY'LL WORK WITH THE US WITH THE USER SO BOTH OF THOSE CONCEPTS AND UH OKAY I THINK WE MADE SOME GOOD PROGRESS HERE SEE YOU IN I DUNNO I GU I GUESS WE'LL TAKE LUNCH IN ABOUT UH HALF AN HOUR OR I GUESS WE'LL BE TAKING LUNCH SHORTLY AND THEN THEN IN ABOUT HALF AN HOUR AFTER THAT WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ANOTHER MEETING YEAH OKAY