them together, and apologies, we're going over the same ground here. But one was to extend concern are you expecting the BMX, uh, option this quarter? Yes, that's, that's right, yeah. And the second one was if all goes well with the magnitude files, can you give some sort of estimate of how many BMX files and senators in total that you're expecting for this calendar year? Uh, yeah, just similar to my, my previous comments about the speed with which the Navigator client comes on, um, I can be more definitive about it once the capacity then builds out because then you would have approximately an option every, every three weeks roughly, um, as represented by the, the total active capacity that makes its way to the spot market. Great, thanks Ken, uh, a, a question here from inaudible he says, As the company moves relatively quickly to inaudible 1,000, what concerns should there be or why are they with, with, uh, shipping movements to, to markets given viable shipping challenges and increased costs? Uh, yeah, um, well, our clearance is that we're, we're, we don't have difficulty accessing vessels that are not trade, um, and vessels available in our sector, um, that, that we don't inaudible have difficulty accessing the vessels themselves, it's just the cost of attracting the vessels that's the, the issue. Um, there has been some relief, uh, a little bit of relief in this quarter with respect to shipping costs. Um, we take in shipping costs at about 70 to 80 US dollars a ton. Um, average shipping costs from, from memory are about 55 or crosstalk- Yeah, yeah. So it's come off, um, slightly, which, which is indicative of, of more of that thing's that available, but again, to make the point, it's not so much that you can't get a vessel, it's just the cost of the, of the vessel itself. Thanks James, just a couple of market-related questions to wrap up, first one from Mr. inaudible he asks if you can offer some commentary on, uh, on the impact on the lithium market after some recent developments we've seen, for instance, the Rio Tinto project in Serbia, and also some of the political changes in Chile. And any potential ramifications of those developments for lithium supple. Yes, um, well, first thing that comes to mind, and no disrespect to the analyst community, but it's easy to put supply numbers in a spreadsheet, it's not so easy to deliver them on the ground. Um, by the time you're doing that a lot more complexities come into play, uh, you've heard from, from Tilbara about difficulties in bringing in additional capacity. Well, our experience with, you know, is not, um, when I pay my loan, bringing on spot demand supply and lithium units globally is challenging. And especially when you think about a combination of, of volume, volume growth, and quality. And each of those are going to be overestimated, in our view, um, in which case markets will continue to be tight for, for quite some time. Um, we've heard many analysts over the years that, that lithium markets will be oversupplied, that there's plenty of lithium in the world but there's not plenty of lithium in the world that fits the right combination of location, quality, and supply, accessibility or infrastructure, um, in the right jurisdictions that don't otherwise suffer from geopolitical challenges. Um, yeah, I mean, it's a complex world of urban industrial minerals supply chain that, that doesn't want to be complex, but that naturally is. Thanks, Ken, one final one as a remainder question that's a good ones to wrap up on. Um, um, this gentleman says, Major car manufacturers will compete numbers for AV production 30 to 2030. Is there enough to achieve those production forecasts? Uh, I don't want to everybody trite but car makers have been asleep at the wheel. Um, they haven't been paying enough attention to the raw material supply in battery raw materials in the last five years. And it's coming back to haunt them because insufficient, um, incentive was placed in the market when it was really required and especially during that period three to five years ago, um, to get to where we need to be today. So, so not enough capital flowing upstream, not enough, uh, definitive off-take agreements that tie up the supply chain. Uh, not enough interconnected agreements that, that motivate the supply chain to, to, to be interconnected. Um, each of those things represents a, a serious challenge to the industry that should have been solved some years ago but now needs to be solved and will take some years to, to get right. Excellent. Thanks, Ken. That's all from crosstalk Okay. Thank you Nick, Rachel, it sounds like we're all done. Thank you. That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.