SO ESSENTIALLY THEY N NEVER TOOK INTO ACCOUNT I MEAN THE WORK AT THE HIGH LEVEL WHICH MEANS BASICALLY WE HAVE THE INFORMATION COMING FROM HERE AND THERE AND WE N CREATED TECHNIQUES THAT ALLOW TO STARTS FROM THE TEXT THERE AND THE THINGS THAT ARE SAID AND W IF WE FIND CONTEXT I MEAN THEY MAKE SOME KIND OF PROCESSING BUT AS THEY DON'T WORK ON THE LOW LEVEL SO LOW LEVEL IT MEANS BASICALLY OKAY TAKE THE SPEECH AND EXTRACT THE TRANSCRIPTION I TAKE THE IMAGE UH OF THE DOCUMENT AND I TAKE THE TRANSCRIPTION THEY BASICALLY DON'T REALLY CARE OF THIS ASPECT AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND MM AS FAR AS I KNOW CHANGE SLIDE CHANGE DETECTIONS WHICH UH OF COURSE WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IS ALSO THEY TRY TO RECOVER THE LAYOUT SOMEHOW I MEAN GIVEN THE SLIDES BUT THEY ARE IN NO CASE THEY ARE EXTRACTING THE TEXT FROM THE SLIDES SO WITH IN UH IN UH ALL THE CASES WHAT I'VE SEEN IN ALL THE CASES I'VE SEEN I MEAN THEY S ASSUME THAT AT LEAST YOU HAVE LIKE A P. D. F. VERSION OF THE DOCUMENT OR WHAT AND BASICALLY THEY TRY TO MATCH WHAT IS DISPLAYED TO THE DOCUMENT SO FIRST THEY NEED TO EXTRACT THE INFORMATION FROM THE DOCUMENT WHICH IS NOT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE SO TRIVIAL AT LEAST FOR UH BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO WORKING WITH UH MAYBE MORE COMPLEX DOCUMENTS WITH IMAGES AND TEXT AND SO ON MAYBE WITH SLIDES IT'S EA IT'S EASIER TO EXTRACT UH THE INFORMATION I ASSUME IT'S EA IT'S EASIER INDEED BUT THEY UH ASSUME BASICALLY UH THAT THEY HAVE THIS DOCUMENT WHICH IS SOMETHING SOMEHOW WE WOULD LIKE TO RELAX UH BECAUSE UH PEOPLE UH LIKE IN IT'S YOU MAY NOT WANT EACH TIME TO ASK THE PERSON MAYBE THE PERSON HAS A POINT POINT NOT THE NOT A P. D. F. VERSION OR MAYBE HE'S USING EXCEL TO DO A DEMONSTRATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND WE'LL WANT TO AVOID THIS MM AND IT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROCESSING SOME WAY IS ALWAYS DRIVEN BY W WHAT YOU'RE ABLE TO DO THEY WORK A LOT ON LAYOUT ANALYSIS I KNOW THEY MATCH UH UH THE LAYOUT IN TWO X. M. L. FILES ET CETERA SO IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY OF APPROACHING THE PROBLEM WHICH MEANS A DIFFERENT WAY OF CAPTURING DIFFERENT EXIGENCIES IN IN CAPTURING THE THE DOCUMENTS YEAH BUT BUT MOST YOU WOULD SAY MOST MOST OF THE POINTS FOR US I MEAN WOULD BE VALID I MEAN SLIDE TRANSITION WE WOULD USE SLIDE UH NEED TO DO IT SLIDE TRANSITION TO SOME EXTENT WE WOULD LIKE TO EXTRACT SOME ELEMENTS OF THE LAYOUT TO DISTING TO HAVE A MORE HIGH ANALYSIS BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS MORE AUTOMATICALLY AND IN PARTICULAR FOR THE TEXT RECOGNITION TO DO TO BE ABLE TO DO RETRIEVAL UH OF SLIDES OR POINTS I MEAN OF PARTS OF PRESENTATION WE WOULD LIKE NOT TO HAVE TO RELY YEAH TO A FIRST P. D. F. VERSION OR ANY VERSION OF THE DOCUMENT SO YEAH UH UH I MAKE A TICK HERE AND I CLEAN UP THIS IS JUST TO TO SOLVE THAT PRO THAT PROBLEM REGARDING THE SLIDE AND THE SLIDE RESOLUTION SO WE REMOVE UH THAT PART AND WE CALL THAT THE PAS AND IN THAT CASE WE USE UM A FRAME GRABBER HERE AND WE GO WITH THE SLIDE HERE AND UM OF COURSE THESE TWO CARDS WILL BE ON THE SAME MACHINE AND UH WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A SOLUTION HERE THE MAIN CRITICAL POINT IS HERE THE SYNCHRONISATION BETWEEN THESE TWO UH THESE TWO CARDS AND WITH THAT THIS IS THE CARD THAT WE USE IN THE SMART MEETING ROOM AND THIS IS UH THE CARD THE UM SO THE C YOU HAVE BOUGHT THIS CARD RIGHT I MEAN YOU SAY THIS IS A CARD NO NO AND THIS ONE THIS IS UH THE CARD THAT WE HAVE ALREADY AT IDIAP FOR THE SLI HMM I IT'S THE SAME AS AS YOU HAVE IN THE PICTURE YEAH YEAH OKAY NOT N SO ENOUGH UH WELL YEAH YEAH I WAS THINKING TO SOME EXTENT NOTHING WOULD WOULD PREVENT US UH FROM ALSO ACQUIRING THE SLIDE BUT REALLY THE SLIDE STREAM FROM FROM THIS CARD INDEED RIGHT OR OKAY YEAH YEAH YEAH SO WE CAN HAVE BOTH WE CAN HAVE THE SLIDE FROM THE SLIDE CAPTURE AND WE CAN JUST USE UH A VIDEO SIGNAL TO TO CAPTURE THAT ALSO TO HAVE TWO T UH MM YOU WANTS TO HA DO YOU HAVE TWO QUALITY H HIGH QUALITY AND I MEAN THE STREAM RIGHT THE FULL STREAM YEAH WE CAN JUST TAKE SOME SNAPSHOTS YEAH SO BASICALLY IT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO HAVE STILL UM UH THE S UH THE SLIDE STREAM SO THAT FOR INSTANCE IF WE DETECT THERE IS A NEW VIDEO THAT IS DISPLAYED ALSO ON TO SOME EXTENT WE COULD JUST CUT THIS VIDEOS TO KEEP IT AND TO BE ABLE TO REPLAY IT UH LATER ON AND SO ON AND MAYBE INDEED IF FOR INSTANCE THE SLIDE STREAM ON THE ON THE RIGHT IS AUTOMATICALLY SYNCHRONIZED WITH THE OTHER PARTS OF THE VIDEO IT MAY BE EASIER TO S TO UH SYNCHRONIZE DIRECTLY BY SOME SOME MATCHING PROCESS THE SLIDES THE HIGH QUALITY MEASURES WE HAVE HERE WE'VE DIRECTLY YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH SOMETHING LIKE LIKE SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT MM-HMM MM-HMM YEP SO AT LEAST UH THIS IS NOT AT THE ELECTRONIC LEVEL BUT YOU WOULD SAY AS A CONTENTS FROM THE CONTENT LEVEL DOING AN ALIGNMENT FROM THE SLIDE STREAM AND FROM THE SNAP SHOTS WE WOULD HAVE ON THE OTHER SIDE W IS SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE OF COURSE IF WE HAVE SOME YOU KNOW SOME CONSTRAINTS GIVEN BY THE ELECTRONIC I MEAN IT'S THAT'S BETTER UH BECAUSE OF COURSE FIRST THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE EASIER AND IT MAY BE JUST A FEW SIGNALS THAT WE HAVE TO ALIGN ON THE OTHER PARTS BUT I THINK I COULD SEE I COULD IMAGINE THAT THIS COULD BE A REASONABLE PROCESS TO DO AND IT ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THIS WOULD SOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES REGARDING I MEAN LIKE THE POSSIBILITY OF D OF DISPLAYING VIDEOS AFTER FROM FROM WHAT WE RECORD SO YEAH OKAY SO UH I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PAS PROJECT MAYBE I WOULD LIKE JUST NOW TO TALK ABOUT THE DIVA PROJECT SO I CLEAN UP YEAH I THERE UM DID YOU READ SOMETHING REGARDING THE DIVA PROJECT WELL THIS IS MORE OR LESS WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED RIGHT IF I UNDERSTAND MM-HMM AND THE DIVA IT WAS UH SOMETHING DIFFERENT FACT WE HAVE A MASTER MACHINE THAT'S UM WE HAVE A MASTER MACHINE HERE AND WE HAVE SOME SLAVES MACHINE HERE WE HAVE SOME CONNECTION AND HERE WE HAVE SOME INPUT WE HAVE AUDIO USUALLY WE HAVE AUDIO AND AND THE SAME FOR THIS ONE AND UM BASICALLY ON THE SLAVE MACHINE WE HAVE TWO CARDS ONE FOR AUDIO AND ONE FOR VIDEO