standards are supposed to go on cell phones with m moderate resources in both respects Did anybody uh do anything with the models as a an experiment Or Uh they didn't report it N if nobody did reported it Yeah I think everybody was focused elsewhere Um now one of the things nice about what we did is we do have a a uh a filtering which leads to a a uh a reduction in the bandwidth in the modulation spectrum which allows us to downsample So uh as a result of that we have a reduced um transmission rate for the bits That was misreported the first time out It it said the same amount because for convenience sake in the particular way that this is being tested uh they were repeating the packets So it was Oh s they they had hundred bits per second but they were literally creating hundred bits per second um even though y it was just repeated Right So uh in practice count in there or something Well n I mean this was just a ph phoney thing just to to fit into the the software Oh that was testing the errors channel errors and so on So Oh so in reality if you put this this system in into uh the field it would be hundred bits per second not hundred So um so a nice feature of what what we did Um but um well we still have to see Hmm how it all comes out Um and then the whole standards process which is another thing altogether When is the development set I mean the uh uh test set results due Like the day before you leave or something Uh probably the day after they leave but have to have to stop it the day before we Yeah yeah So Huh I think tha I think the the meeting is on the thirteenth or something Yeah this Tuesday yeah And uh they uh Right And the the uh results are due like the day before the meeting or something So Yeah probably well I th I think I I think Yeah they well are yeah So um since we have a bit farther to travel than some of the others uh have to get done a little quicker But um I mean just tracing down these bugs I mean just exactly this sort of thing of you know why why these features seem to be behaving differently uh in California than in Oregon Hmm Might have something to do with electricity shortage Uh we didn't we didn't have enough electrons here and Uh but um Uh I think you know the main reason for having I mean it only takes w to run the the two test sets in just in computer time is just a day or so right So Yeah yeah very short interval So I think the who the whole reason for having as long as we have which was like a week and a half is is because of bugs like that So Huh So gonna end up with these same kind of sheets that have the the percentages and so Yeah on so just there the are two more columns in the sheets two I guess the same sheets yeah Yeah yeah same sheets just with the missing columns filled in Yeah Yeah Well be good So dis disregard these numbers good So Hynek will try to push for trying to combine uh different things Or Uh Hmm well um yeah I mean I think the question is Is there is there some advantage I mean you could just take the best system and say the standard But the thing is that if different systems are getting at good things um a again within the constraint of the resources if something simple that you can do Now for instance uh I think very reasonable to have a standard for the side and then for the side say a number of things that could be done So um everything that we did could probably just be added on to what Alcatel did and i probably work pretty well with them too So um uh one one aspect of it And then on the side I don't know how much um memory and and CPU it takes but it seems like the filtering Uh I mean the VAD stuff they both had right And um so and they both had some kind of normalization right Uh Of yeah sorts yeah So so it seems like the main different there is the is the uh filtering And the filtering I think if you can shouldn't take a lot of memory to do that Uh and I also wouldn't think the CPU uh would be much either for that part So if you can if you can add those in um then uh you can cut the data rate in half Yeah So it seems like the right thing to do is to on the on the side take what they did if it if it does seem to generalize well to German and Danish uh take what they did add in a filter and add in some stuff on the side and and and probably a reasonable standard Um They are Uh working on this already Because yeah Su Sunil told me that he was trying already to put some kind of Yeah uh filtering in the That would France ideal Telecom would be is that they could you know they could actually show that in fact a combination of some sort uh would work even better than what what any of the systems had And um then it would it would uh be something to to discuss in the meeting But uh not clear what will go on Um I mean on the one hand um sometimes people are just anxious to get a standard out there I mean you can always have another standard after that but this process has gone on for a while on already and and people might just wanna pick something and say OK this is it And then a standard Uh standards are always optional just that uh if you disobey them then you risk not being able to sell your product or Uh um And people often work on new standards while an old standard is in place and so on So not final even if they declared a standard The other hand they might just say they just don't know enough yet to to declare a standard So you you you will be you will become experts on this and know more far more than me about the tha this particular standards process once you you go to this meeting So be interested in hearing So uh be uh interested in hearing uh your thoughts now I mean almost done I mean done in the sense that um you may be able to get some new features from Sunil and it Uh but other than that basically done right So uh Yeah interested in hearing hearing your thoughts about