more from them fine but if we only get one or two from each group that still could be useful acoustically just because Yeah I have definitely agree with that Yeah microphones with different people Yeah can I say about that that the the issues that I think Adam and I raised were more a matter of advertising so that you get more native speakers Because I think if you just say an And in particular my suggestion was to advertise to linguistics grad students because there have so people have proficiency enough in English that that uh it would be useful for for purposes You know But you know I think been I gathered data from undergrads at on campus and if you just post randomly to undergrads I think get such a mixed bag that it would be hard to know how much conversation have at all Well And want the i English have The language models would be really hard to build because it would not really be it would be an interlanguage rather than Well a OK uh first place I I I don't think just want to have random people come down and talk to one another OK think there should be a meeting that has some goal and point cuz I I think what investigating a so a meeting Yeah meeting Right would OK otherwise happen anyway So I I was what we I was thinking and more agree terms with talking to professors uh Oh and interesting and uh senior uh uh d and uh Yeah doctoral students who are leading projects and offering to them I see that they have Oh their interesting meeting down here Uh the first point The second point is um I think that for some time now going back through BeRP I think that we have had speakers that worked with who had accents Oh oh not saying accents th I think that not the problem Oh OK No more a matter of uh proficiency e e just simply fluency I mean I deal Yeah people on on campus who I think sometimes people undergraduates um in computer science uh have language skills that make you know that their their fluency and writing skills are Oh not so not strong about foreign language Yeah Yeah just just talking talking about about Well We e the same thought I just think but you know like when you get into the graduate level uh no problem I mean not saying accents then say completely saying fluency Well yeah just The saying the fluency are already burnt in But Well I think that um I think that the only thing we should say in the advertisement is that the meeting should be held in English Yeah And and I think if a meeting and held in English I I think probably OK if a few of the people don't have uh g particularly good English skills OK now can I can I say the other aspect of this from my perspective which is that um this this issue you have a corpus out there it should be used for for multiple things cuz so expensive to put together Right Right And if people want to approach Um i so I know e e You know this The idea of computational linguistics and probabilistic grammars and all may not be the focus of this group but the idea of language models which are fund you know generally speaking uh you know t t terms of like the amount of benefit per dollar spent or an hour invested in preparing the data if you have a choice between people who are pr more proficient in um i more fluent more more close to being academic English then it would seem to me to be a good thing I guess I maybe Hmm Because I otherwise y you don't have the ability to have Uh so if if you have a bunch of idiolects the worst possible case If you have people who are using English as a as an interlanguage because they they don't uh they can't speak in their native languages and but their interlanguage isn't really a match to any existing uh language model this is the worst case Yeah scenario Well pretty And much what going to have in the networking group Right because because they Well most the network group is almost entirely Germans and Spaniards But the thing is I think that these people are of high enough level in their in their language proficiency I that see And not objecting to accents I just OK thinking that we have to think at a at a higher level view could we have a language model a a grammar a grammar basically that um wo would be a a possibility So y so if you wanted to bring in a model like Dan model an and do some stuff it to help th the and merge the things or whatever uh it seems like um I don't see that an argument I what I think is that why not have the corpus since so expensive to put together uh useful for the widest range of of central corp things that people generally use corpora for and which are you know used in computational linguistics my point Which OK difficult both and Yeah OK well i i see what we can get I mean it it I think that if aiming at at uh groups of graduate students and professors and Yes forth who are talking about things together fine and from the Berkeley campus probably most of it Exactly be my OK point but m in my OK to Liz was I think that undergrads are an iff iffy population definitely OK agree with that I mean OK for this purpose Grads Yeah fact fine that I would be hesitant certainly to take anyone under eighteen probably even an anyone under So Oh you that Well The eighteen is because of the consent form Right Yeah Yeah get find their parent to sign Yeah Yes true Yeah So I have a uh um question Well Morgan you were mentioning that Mari may not use the k equipment from IBM if they found something else cuz yeah d uh assessing whether they should a do that or y do something else hopefully over the next few weeks Cuz I mean one remote possibility is that if we st if we inherited that equipment if she weren't using it could we set up a room in the linguistics department And and I mean there there may be a lot more or or in psych or in comp wherever in another building where we could um record people there I think have a better chance I think need a real motivated partner to do Right need to find but someone on campus who was Right interested in this But if there were such a I mean a remote possibility then um you know one of us could you know go up there and record the meeting Yep