um and then I put Optional with a big Optional in parentheses Age Wait why is that optional Because I think a lot of people are sensitive to it and won't want to write it down Yeah make them feel like they have to I don't know It it would be very good to get age for a lot of purposes Yeah sure But if someone a doesn't lot want of to corpora down I don't yeah them so to we say ca you we can't have record age me ranges or something Oh Well right wait wait wait wait a minute You um like not illegal or anything right not pushing on anything unethical or illegal No whatever to ask not age right all every most So corpora have that you know I suggest information age and if they say I don't want to give it say OK In in Yeah they they the researchers themselves estimate the age afterw after the fact So they say you know uh middle thirties you know Yeah fifties or sixties and they and they just they estimate for the person Well I But think that just having on the form saying Optional Age again means I don't have to be sitting here and explaining the form every time yeah do this Yeah OK And it isn't having it little isn't instruction boldf sheet and say If in this age range do I and see if in this rage Yeah do Yeah that And So and about isn't really that prominent you know his Optional is not really boldface How about but optional but highly desirable Please please Yeah Age or Approximate Age So Actually can say approximate opt age is optional but those who don't give it will be given the uncomfortable microphones Yeah right right those who don't give it we will be estimating your age for Yeah you If not given we will estimate so maybe I prefer I The think the is mean not the estimates from the group will be used Yeah I think not necessary to put uh Optional Yeah I people think leave people blank if they decide uh in that I moment think people in Speech are gonna Because wanna put very Optional You know I think you you give Well eh think maybe because no one here is sensitive about their age They can always lie But I would rather let them leave it blank than lie OK in some sense you why could want that put Please want leave put blank Optional Age He so but that don't they lie don't want to put it they leave it blank They might lie anyway Yeah if you put Optional won't they just leave it blank rather don't than know lie OK I think I think you can put I optional not I gonna the peop the people known lied about it I think would just lie about it You Right Yeah just leave it blank if it says has know big people Optional lie next to it it Oh yeah Well they might leave it blank if they didn't care about their age being known but it says optional they might Hey Jack Benny was not for forty years Anyway fine I don't know Well the thing abou the reason uh one reason for putting Optional might be if it uh made the form seem gentler and k and not as intrusive kind of kinder Yeah and I gentler Yeah I was afraid I shouldn't say that They uh that you know i if you say Optional then sort of if people who get nervous about the age question then they realize that Oh well but not trying to ask me lots of things Yeah I I don't think think it matters People will put it I I I I don't think it matters If it makes you more comfortable put Optional It It don't think I think better to put Optional OK mean Then why I put it there OK s OK but it seems OK I like it maybe think you disagree softening I I I don't think important but I also don't think an important point the other way and I don't Yeah Yeah want to OK you do it some different way than you want to do it So Hmm OK As long as we put it high enough up that it doesn't sort of get lost in the optional if there are a lot of other optional things on the form didn't mark anything else as specifically optional only only optional one thing the OK So one Um and then the next are two sections One indented separately So for native English speakers and one for English speakers OK so for the native English speaker it asks for a variety of English with three circle boxes American British Indian and Other for Now what was this thing that who was telling was it Steve Somebody was telling us about asking about uh Where you lived between the ages of Yep Jane and I discussed this and it was it was again the same problem that gonna be a anyway and so I don't want to have to be standing over the person and asking them Well do you mean that your native an l an language was British when you were born and then it changed to American when you were two and then it changed to Well also you you and you so on he has a sep separate subject for Region and so a of what you think your closest variety is of English And then following that a characterization of of region Now we discussed maybe indicating a t a time frame So Where did you live during Right your you know childhood and adolescence which would be Which is more objective than somebody evalu saying I think I speak this or that Yes Although you know I mean a lot of people there won't be e much difference th but sorry room so on the saying to put al a a line of instruction but just not sure what it re should really be uh I I I just missed something though Are you saying that you have both that saying uh what is your So the the for the for the native English speakers we have Variety of English and Region Yeah And it And partly then pick have Yeah another form later down which is um list other language influences S So what does Region Yeah I was just mean gonna ask the and same like thing if I see this form I wouldn't be quite sure what you mean by Region Region neither would I Do you want to have give choices and have them circle one or I Well mean we Um I Does don't mean think When region that discussed would it be it different was for where where you lived during your childhood and adolescence the US or region of the If world Well American English it would be region of the US OK W That but that where