SO IT'S TALK TO ALEX SEE IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT MAPS BY LOOKING AT THE VERBMOBIL IF IT DOES ASK D. F. K. I. EITHER FOR DATA OR A TIME SCALE AND YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO KNOW HOW MUCH DATA YOU NEED IN ORDER TO DO THAT SO DO YOU HAVE A TECHNIQUE FOR ESTIMATING HOW MUCH DATA YOU'D NEED UH NOT SURE C UH EVERYBODY ALWAYS SAYS THERE'S NO DATA LIKE MORE DATA OKAY SO JUST ASK D. F. K. I. HOW MUCH DATA AND WHEN RIGHT IF YOU KNOW I MEAN THE TYPICAL THING IS TO DO LEAVE ONE OUT CROSS VALIDATION WITH YOU KNOW EIGHTY NINE DIALOGUES OKAY SO I TRAINED ON EIGHTY EIGHT AND THEN OR I TRAIN ON ONE THOUSAND NINE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE AND OKAY BUT WE SHOULD SPEAK TO STEVE WE MIGHT HAVE SOME UM SO WELL THE QUESTION THE QUESTION IS WHAT WHAT IS CHUNKING GONNA HELP I MEAN I THINK CHUNKING COULD HELP AUTOMATIC DIALOGUE ACT SEGMENTATION I THINK CHUNKING COULD HELP AS YOU MENTIONED NAMED ENTITY RECOGNITION UM MM-HMM 'CAUSE THEY DO THAT RIGHT SO THE QUESTION IS AT WHAT STAGE SHOULD WE PUT THAT IN WELL WE'D WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE PRETTY HAPPY THAT IT'S RELIABLE BECAUSE MM YEAH I MEAN OTHERWISE YOU GET THESE VERY BIZARRE RESULTS BECAUSE THE DATA IS NOT REALLY VERY GOOD SO UM BUT I AND NOBODY HAS EXPRESSED LIKE MASSIVE INTEREST IN T IN CHUNKING SO I THINK YOU KNOW NOBODY'S UH WAITING FOR IT BUT BUT WE COULD WE C I THINK WE SHOULD TALK TO BARBARA ABOUT HOW TO DO SOME JOINT EXPERIMENTS OR OR IF SHE'S GONNA BE SENDING OTHER PEOPLE MAYBE LIZ OR WHOEVER COMES OVER NEXT TIME UH AND IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE GREAT IF IT WAS LIZ BECAUSE I THINK SHE IS THE ONE WHO DID THE DIALOGUE ACT SEGMENTATION AUTOMATIC WHEN WHEN IS SHE SENDING SOMEBODY OH FOR THE NEXT ONE MM-HMM MM-HMM BUT THAT'S A PRETTY TIGHT TIME SCALE THEN RIGHT 'CAUSE IT'D BE FOR THE FALL WE'D WANNA KNOW THE EVALUATION IS THAT THE TIME SCALE YOU'RE THINKING OF OR HOW IT COULD BE DONE YEAH UM AND WE I GUESS WE SHOULD TALK TO YOSHI ABOUT ABOUT IT IN RELATIONSHIP TO NAMED ENTITIES WHO'S UH WHO'S DOING NAMED ENTITIES BESIDES YOSHI OKAY SO WE COULD TALK TO VASILIS ABOUT THAT AS WELL MM-HMM I THINK YOU SHOULD STILL ASK BARBARA AGAIN YOU KNOW C CAN YOU HAVE ANOTHER THINK ABOUT WHO MIGHT HAVE THE CHUNKING STUFF 'CAUSE SHE HAS SAID SEVERAL TIMES THERE MUST BE SOMEBODY AND SHE CAN HELP WITH THAT AND UM I THINK SHE'S JUST FORGOTTEN SO AND THEN SO ONE THING THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR ME BECAUSE I HAVEN'T READ I THINK WE'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE JEAN YOU KNOW HAS READ A LOT OF LITERATURE AND I'VE READ A LOT OF LITERATURE AND WE THERE IS SOME OVERLAP BUT THERE'S ALSO QUITE A BIG SPACE WHERE WE DON'T KNOW THE LITERATURE FROM THE OTHER SIDE AND SINCE YOU'RE GONNA BE READING IT I MEAN IT WOULD BE PROBABLY BE USEFUL IF YOU MADE SOME KIND OF YOU KNOW REPORT THAT DESCRIBED YOU KNOW OKAY THIS WHAT THESE PEOPLE YOU KNOW THIS IS YOU KNOW A SYNTHESIS OKAY HERE'S THE BASIC IDEA BEHIND EXCHANGE STRUCTURE AND YOU KNOW HERE'S A COUPLE OF YOU KNOW HERE'S THE TWO MOST RELEVANT WORKS THAT I'VE READ OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOU KNOW TO JUST I MEAN YOU DON'T WANNA MAKE THIS REALLY FORMAL OR DO YOU YEAH A PARAGRAPH EACH YEAH AND YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ ALL THIS COLLABORATIVE PROL PROBLEM SOLVING SO LISTING BULLET POINTS ON SLIDES CAUSE THEN WE'D KNOW SORT OF WHICH LITERATURE YOU'RE THINKING OF UM PUTTING IN AND WE COULD READ THE MOST IMPORTANT ARGUMENTATIVE STUFF I CAN HAVE THESE THINGS ANYWAY YEAH SO IT JUST IT JUST MAKES IT A LOT EASIER UM TO GET THAT MM-HMM 'KAY YEAH YEAH MM-HMM THEY HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THIS PROBLEM YEAH YEAH I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO VERY SOON BECAUSE I'VE GOT THIS UM THIS HEARING TO GO TO BUT UH SO THE PRACTICAL ACTIONS YOU KNOW WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE'RE GONNA GO AWAY AND DO YEAH I WILL SEND YOU OR WE CAN YOU KNOW CHAT OFF LINE FOR A MINUTE A ABOUT A LIST OF THINGS THAT I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT AND JEAN PROBABLY MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO THE SAME UM OKAY AND IF SABRINA HAS ANY IDEAS WE'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM SABRINA AS WELL UM MM-HMM J BECAUSE UH AFTER TALKING TO JANE UM JUST UH WE HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS WHETHER UH MEETING ACTION WILL BE ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS TOPIC SEGMENTS SO UM IT WOULD BE GOOD TO UM T RIGHT NOW I'M DOING THIS UM LOOKING AT THE DATA AND TRYING TO SEE IF I CAN DO THE MEETING ACTION SEGMENTATION FIRST AND THE SCHEME AND THEN DO TOPIC SEGMENTATION AGAIN TO SEE IF THE BOUNDARY ACTUALLY COINCIDE WITH EACH OTHER YEAH IF IF THAT THAT DO THEN MAYBE WE CAN TALK AGAIN WHETHER UM I IT IT MAKE SENSE MM-HMM I'M NOT IN MONDAY BUT THE OTHER DAYS I'LL BE AROUND MM-HMM UM I HAVE JUST STARTED AND UM SO FAR UM I S THINK UH IT'S UH IT I THINK IT IT'S A STILL UM ABOUT THE S ABOUT THE SAME LEVEL OF SEGMENTATION WE'RE TALKING HERE BUT UH MAYBE THE BOUNDARY WILL NOT BE EXACTLY THE SAME BUT UH THAT THAT THE SEGMENT MM-HMM RIGHT SURE YEAH AND I WHAT I REALLY WANNA DO CONCENTRATE JUST NOW IS IS FINDING OUT THE HOW WE'RE GONNA HELP UM WEI XUN WITH WITH MAKING PROGRESS ON THIS SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT YOU KNOW HE'S GONNA UM CONSTRUCT A LIST OF THE REFERENCES HE THINKS IS IMPORTANT AND JOHANNA AND I AND AND YOU AS WELL ARE GONNA CONTRIBUTE TO THAT AND WE CAN PUT THAT ON A WIKI OR WE CAN DO IT SOME OTHER WAY I MEAN YOU KNOW I'M WIKI MAD SO UM IF WE SHARE IT IT SHOULD GO ON A WIKI 'CAUSE I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING IN MY EMAIL BUT YOU KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT HMM RIGHT SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WE SHOULD TAKE LIKE THE FRONT RUNNER SCHEME AND THE DATA AND YOU SHOULD LOOK AT NOT FRONT RUNNER SCHEME BUT FRONT RUNNER THEORY AND I SEE IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE DATA YOU KNOW USING THAT KIND OF THEORY AT SOME POINT AND MIGHT MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING EXERCISE RIGHT WELL I THINK WE NEED TO UM LIKE YOU MENTIONED EARLIER UM FACTOR IN WHAT THIS MIGHT BE USED FOR IN THE END AND SO EVEN IF IT WE WON'T IT WON'T BE USED MAYBE IF IT WOULD NEED SOME HIGHER LEVEL ANALYSIS BEFORE IT COULD BE DIRECTLY USED FOR THAT PURPOSE WE SHOULD STILL KEEP THAT IN MIND