YEAH WELL TELL ME ABOUT SOME OF THE CONSTRAINTS AND WELL FIRST OF ALL I MUST SAY THAT THERE ARE ALSO QUITE A LOT OF COMMON POINTS SO UM IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO YEAH PLEASE THANKS PERFECT SO UM YEAH ACTUALLY WE UM WELL BASICALLY THE THE GROUP WHO PRODUCED THIS UH PROPOSAL IS MADE BY SUSAN MARTIN DAVID AND UH AND MYSELF AND WE ALSO WELL SUSAN VOLUNTEERED TO ASK MAGGIE AND PIERRETTE ABOUT HOW THEY THEY FELT ABOUT SHARING OFFICES AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE WELL UM SUSAN GETS OBVIOUSLY THE SAME OFFICE WHICH IS QUITE A GOOD THING UM THEN THINGS STARTED MOVE A BIT IT LOOKS LIKE I'M ALSO IN THE SAME POSITION BUT THE MOST OBVIOUS CONSTRAINTS THAT UH WE WE FOUND HERE WAS THAT IT WAS PROBABLY VERY DIFFICULT TO HAVE A LOUNGE UH JUST A LOUNGE IN ONE ROOM BECAUSE IT WOULD BLOCK US TWO FULL WORKING PLACES AND ALTHOUGH IT'S TRUE THAT THE GROUP I AGREE DECIDED TO TO HAD TO HAVE A LOUNGE WE PROPOSE TO PUT THE LOUNGE UH IN THE ROOM AT THE THE UPPER SIDE ON ON THE RIGHT UH SO LET TWO PEOPLE SHARE THIS WITH UH SORT OF A YEAH A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE A SOFA MAYBE AND UH AND SOME BOOKS SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY A CALM PLACE PEOPLE ARE NOT THERE TO TALK VERY LOUD BUT THEY CAN SIT AND RELAX AND UH STILL LOOK AT AT THE MOUNTAINS UM ALSO SO THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN DIFFERENCES I THINK MAYBE ONE OF THE POINTS THAT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT UH THE OTHER ONE IS THE ADMIN OFFICE SO IT'S GISELLA FIFTY PER CENT BECAUSE SHE'S ONLY HALF TIME AND UH THE FAX MACHINE UM GISELLA ACTUALLY HAS A LOT OF PHONE CALLS TO MAKE AND UH IT'S TRUE THAT HER ACTIVITY IS QUITE NOISY WHEN SHE'S THERE UM IT'S ALSO TRUE THAT SHE HAS QUITE A LOT OF FILES FOR MOST OF THE THE PROJECTS ACTUALLY THAT WE MANAGE SO IT APPEARED AT LEAST TO WELL TO OUR GROUP THAT EVEN IF SHE'S HERE ONLY HALF TIME SHE SHOULD HAVE AN OFFICE BY HER OWN BECAUSE IT WOULD BE QUITE DISTURBING FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO TO WORK IN THE THE SAME OFFICE UH GISELLA HAS HAS NO OBJECTION AGAINST SHARING THE OFFICE WE THOUGHT IT WAS MORE FOR THE THE CALM OF THE THE PEOPLE IT'S TRUE THAT THIS BLOCKS ONE OF THE ONE PERSON ROOMS BUT UH ON THE OTHER HAND UH MAGGIE HAS NO OBJECTION UH SHARING AN OFFICE WITH HER ASSISTANT AND THIS APPEARED TO BE TRUE ALSO OF PIERRETTE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT PIERRETTE SHARING AN OFFICE WITH TWO PERSONS BUT AT LEAST NO PROBLEM IN PIERRETTE SHARING HER OFFICE WITH UH MARIANNE THE THE SWEDISH ONE WHO IS SORT OF HER ASSISTANT UM SO THIS IS WHY WE YEAH WE PUT MAGGIE WITH WITH BRUNO AND THEN THE THIRD MAIN DIFFERENCE UH WOULD BE THE THE NUMBER OF VISITOR PLACES OR FREE PLACES UH YOU NOTICE A NEW NAME IN THE ROOM UH AT THE CENTRE UPPER UPPER SIDE SO THAT'S PAOLA IT'S TRUE THAT IT'S SOMEONE COMING NEXT YEAR SUSAN REMINDED ME THIS UH OF THIS POINT AND I COULD NOT REALLY IGNORE IT UH SO UM THAT SHE'S AN ITALIC SHE WILL ARRIVE IN ABOUT TWO MONTH AND THE TWO UH VIS ONE AND VIS TWO ARE THE VISITOR PLACES YOU HAD ONE I THINK CALLED FREE SPACE OR SPARE SPARE PLACE UM WE DIDN'T REALLY REACH A VERY GOOD AGREEMENT ON THE DISTRIBUTION OF THESE TWO ROOMS SO THE THE TWO AT THE CENTRE UH WHERE IS WRITTEN PAOLA YALINA THE TWO VISITORS AND THEN MARIA PLUS DAVID SO I THINK THERE IS QUITE A LOT OF SPACE HERE TO UH SWITCH A LITTLE BIT AMONG THE PEOPLE JUST TO MAKE SOME KIND OF SMOOTH OCCUPANCY RATE SO NOT TO HAVE ONE EMPTY ROOM WHEN WE HAVE NO VISITORS UM AND UH THEN A VERY FULL ROOM WHEN EVERYBODY IS IS HERE SO I THINK WE'RE WE ARE QUITE WILLING TO SPLIT AND PUT SAY MAYBE ONE VISITOR WITH MARIA AND DAVID UH FIFTY PER CENT IN THE OTHER ROOM WITH THE SECOND VISITOR SO THAT IT SMOOTH IS I'VE BEEN HERE FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS AND WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF STAGIEURS BUT THAT'S IT WELL YEAH EXACTLY SO THE VISITORS ARE UH BASICALLY STAGIEUR AND IT HAPPENS THAT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TWO OF THEM EVEN IF IT'S ONLY FOR THREE OR FOUR MONTH MARTIN SEEMED TO INSIST THAT WHEN WE HAVE A VISITING PROFESSOR FOR INSTANCE WE CANNOT REALLY PUT HIM WITH GISELLA BECAUSE WELL THEY WOULDN'T FEEL VERY NICE THEY THEY MADE A JOKE ABOUT THAT MM SO WE SHOULD MANAGE SOME KIND OF DECENT SPACE IT'S TRUE THAT THESE ONE OR TWO LAST ONE OR TWO YEARS WE DIDN'T HAVE UH A VISITING PROFESSOR BUT UM YEAH SO UH I THINK YEAH THESE ARE THE THREE MAIN POINTS SO ONE IS THE PLACE OF THE LOUNGE UH THE OTHER ONE IS THE UH THE PLACE OF THE ADMIN OFFICE WITH GISELLA AND THE THIRD ONE IS THE NUMBER OF VISITOR VISITING PEOPLE AND UH WELL HOW MANY OF THEM WE WANT TO ACCOMMODATE AND WHERE WHERE WE PUT IT THESE I THINK ARE THE THREE MAIN DIFFERENCES OTHERWISE WE PRETTY MUCH AGREE ON UH ON PLACING PEOPLE OH IN A WAY IF THAT'S YOUR ARGUMENTATION THEN PUT A VISITING PERSON WITH A SENIOR RESEARCHER AT LEAST IF NOT A PROFESSOR RATHER THAN TWO STUDENTS MM-HMM UM SORRY I I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE GONNA ARGUE THAT THE VISITORS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IMPORTANT AND THEY SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE THEN PUT THEM WITH ANOTHER RESEARCHER RATHER THAN TWO STUDENTS YEAH THAT'S THAT'S TRUE I THINK YEAH THEY ARE ARE QUITE OPEN TO TO THIS MARTIN ALSO REMINDED US THAT HE IS QUITE NOISY HE HAS A LOT OF UH PHONE CALLS TO MAKE EVEN IF IT'S HERE IF HE'S HERE ONLY FIFTY PER CENT OF THE TIME UM SO YEAH I I I DON'T MIND THIS BUT UH THAT'S SOMETHING BUT IT'S TRUE YEAH WE COULD ALSO TRY TO PUT A VISITOR AND THE PROFESSOR HMM UM MARTIN MADE ANOTHER POINT IT WAS THE FACT THAT SOMETIMES PROFESSOR HAVE TO PROFESSORS HAVE TO DISCUSS SENSITIVE MATTERS ABOUT PROJECTS AND FINANCING AND THEY SOMETIMES MIGHT FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE DISCUSSING THIS WITH THEIR WELL IN THE PRESENCE OF THEIR P. H. D. STUDENTS LIKE SAYING OH I I HAVE TO REDUCE HER T FROM EIGHTY PER CENT TO FIFTY PER CENT THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING SO I I MEAN ALL THESE ARE CONSTRAINTS I DON'T KNOW HOW HOW YOU WOULD LIKE US TO PROCEED FROM FROM HERE OR IF YOU ALREADY HAVE QUESTIONS OR REACTIONS ON THIS ONE MM BUT HOW OFTEN THE LOUNGE IS USED UM PEOPLE USES ON REGULAR BASIS DAILY BASIS OR FAIRLY REGULARLY THERE'S AT LEAST ONE OR TWO PEOPLE IN THERE I MEAN IT'S A YEAH