THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE A GOOD THING SORRY UM BUT IT COULD HAVE AN L. C. D. SCREEN AND IT COULD HAVE MULTIPLE SCROLL BUTTONS AND IT COULD HAVE THE THE COMPANY'S NEW DEVELOPMENT OF THE UM SAMPLE SENSOR AND SPEAKER SO THANK YOU THAT SOUNDS GOOD ANY IDEA YOU YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE A COST DIFFERENCE UM DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA IF IF THIS COULD IF THE FANCY MODEL COULD BE DONE IN TWELVE EUROS FIFTY YEAH I'M AFRAID I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE UM MANUFACTURING DIDN'T ACTUALLY GIVE ATTACH ANY PRICES TO ANY OF THIS I'M AFRAID HMM BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT I'M BEING QUITE SERIOUS WHEN I SAY THAT THAT UM THE THINGS I MENTIONED ARE HOT BUT I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING MIGHT BE TO CHOOSE ONE YOU KNOW IF IF WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME IS IS UM SOME OF THESE THINGS AREN'T JUST F AREN'T FEASIBLE MAYBE WE COULD SOMETHING ABOUT NAMING WE COULD CALL IT YOU KNOW BLACKBERRY THAT'S UH SO WHAT I HAD BEEN THINKING WAS SOMETHING CHUNKY AND YELLOW AND PLASTIC WITH BLACK BUTTONS WITH A LOGO ON IT BUT UM I I DON'T KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS TO KEEP IT EXACTLY THE COLOURS OF THE REAL REACTION COMPANY IT'S JUST WHAT I'D UNDERSTOOD WE'D BE DOING THAT'S BEFORE I HEARD ABOUT ALL THIS HOT TIPS ABOUT THE FUTURE FRUIT WISE BUT UM UNFORTUNATELY I SEE FROM MY NOTES THAT IF WE DO THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUSH BUTTON AS THE INTERFACE WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING FANCIER HMM YEAH MM THANK YOU KATE THANK YOU KATE MM YOU DID SEEM TO INCLUDE JUST IN MORE DETAIL WHAT I'VE GOT THOUGH SO SO MINE'S A BIT POINTLESS RIGHT F. N. AND F. EIGHT DID YOU SAY THERE WE GO I DON'T HAVE IT ON MINE THOUGH OH I THINK UM FLORENCE RESOLVED IT BY I IF YOU DO F. UH F. N. F. EIGHT AGAIN IT'S IT'LL KEEP DOING IT UNTIL YOU GET IT IN BOTH YOU GET IT THERE YOU GET IT YOURS WITHOUT THAT ONE AND THEN YOU GET IT WITH BOTH SHOULD I DO IT AGAIN MAYBE THIS TIME IT SHOULD COME UP BOTH RIGHT THEN I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF DIFFERENT INFORMATION THEN WHAT KATE SAYS JUST THAT MY METHOD WAS TO LOOK AT THE WELL MY MY INSPIRATIONS WHICH WAS A BIG COLLECTION OF LOTS OF DIFFERENT MODELS OF REMOTE CONTROLS AND OTHER THINGS THAT USE A SIMILAR SORT OF THING INCLUDING M. P. THREE PLAYERS UH LIKE YOU KNOW HI FI REMOTES NOT JUST TELEVISION AND THESE THINGS UH HAVING A THINK ABOUT THE FEATURE OF EA THE FEATURES OF EACH ONES UM WHAT FUNCTIONS WE ACTUALLY NEED AND THEN HOW TO GROUP AND ARRANGE THESE ON THE ACTUAL THE ACTUAL PLASTIC OR RUBBER HAND HELD PIECE UH I'VE BEEN ESPECIALLY INTERESTED IN THE IPOD STYLE SCROLL WHEEL WHICH WELL I COULDN'T FIND A THE PICTURE OF THE IPOD W ONLY LINKED TO A WEB BROWSER SO I COULDN'T COPY AND PASTE IT BUT IT HAD A SIMILAR THING TO THIS THING ON THE RIGHT IT HAS UH SCROLL WHEELS WITHOUT WITHOUT A DISPLAY BUT THEY THEY SCROLL LIKE A COMPUTER MOUSE SO I WAS THINKING THAT UH UM A REALLY SIMPLE A REALLY SIMPLE INTERFACE WITH JUST A COUPLE OF SCROLL THINGS ON IT UM AND THEN INSTEAD OF A DISPLAY THE DISPLAY COULD APPEAR ON THE TELEVISION SCREEN LIKE I GUESS AN EXISTING SKY OR CABLE ONE DOES LIKE YOU KNOW YOU PRESS ENTER AND IT COMES UP WITH WHAT'S SHOWING ON THAT CHANNEL AT THE MOMENT AND YOU CAN DO YOU CAN SCROLL ALONG AND IT'LL SHOW YOU WHAT'S ON IN THE NEXT HALF HOUR AND YOU SCROLL UP AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S ON THE OTHER CHANNELS WHILE YOU'RE WATCHING THE SAME CHANNEL ON THE SCREEN UH BUT I'M ALSO EQUALLY TAKEN WITH THIS CHUNKY PLASTIC KIDDIE REMOTE MM UM WHICH IS REALLY NICE AND FUN AND GOOD TO HOLD AND NICE BIG EASY BUTTONS TO PRESS BUT STILL QUITE SIMPLE AND QUITE COST EFFECTIVE SO WHAT SEEMS KIND OF IDEAL FOR ME WOULD BE TO JUST HAVE A FAIRLY SIMPLE UH NOT FANCY BUT NOT TOTALLY MINIMALIST I MEAN JUST PRETTY SIMPLE PLASTIC PROBABLY I WAS THINKING YELLOW AND BLACK JUST BECAUSE THAT'S THE COMPANY'S COLOURS WITH VERY VERY FEW BUTTONS BUT THAT WOULD CORRESPOND TO A SCREEN THAT WOULD APPEAR ON THE TELEVISION SCREEN LIKE YOU KNOW JUST SMALL ALONG THE BOTTOM INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF HAVING THE IPOD STYLE DISPLAY SCREEN ON THE ACTUAL REMOTES WHICH IS FAR TOO EXPENSIVE AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT A SCREEN SITTING THERE IN FRONT OF YOU YOU MIGHT AS WELL HAVE IT APPEARING UH ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU IT DOESN'T OBSCURE MUCH OF THE ACTUAL PICTURE YOU'RE WATCHING AND SO ON THAT YOU CAN JUST MUCH IN THE SAME WAY AS AN EXISTING SKY REMOTE SCROLL ALONG SCROLL UP AND DOWN AND UH AND I DEFINITELY SUPPORT UH THE USE OF PLASTIC AND OR RUBBER I MEAN TITANIUM WOULD BE GREAT BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE A BIT TOO EXPENSIVE AND TOO KINDA SPACEY IF WE'RE K TRYING TO KEEP IT COLOURFUL AND SLIGHTLY ORGANIC THEN I THINK TITANIUM'S TOO FUTURISTIC IT'S DIFFICULT TO MAKE FANCY SHAPES IN IT AS WELL WE CAN'T FOR EXAMPLE HAVE A DOUBLE CURVED CASE IN TITANIUM UNFORTUNATELY HMM UH THEN 'CAUSE UM OTHERWISE WE'RE WE'RE PUTTING UP THE PRICE NOT ONLY FOR PUTTING BUILDING THE L. C. D. IN BUT FOR THE ELECTRONICS AS WELL AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT POINTLESS AS WELL I THINK LIKE WHEN WHEN WHEN YOU'VE GOT WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE SCREEN THERE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTHING FANCY JUST A LITTLE MENU SHOWING YEAH A MENU YOU GO INTO ONE MENU AND THEN IT CAN HAVE YOUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS WHETHER YOU WANNA CHANGE THE SETTINGS OR THE MM-HMM YOU KNOW YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT PROGRAMME THAT'S ON AT THE MOMENT I DON'T THINK THAT'S TO TAXING TO UH S ENGINEER UM BUT AS FOR ACTUALLY ARRANGING THEM LET ME GO BACK TO THE TO THE PICTURE OF THE KIDDIE ONE AND I QUITE LIKE IT 'CAUSE IT'S JUST SMOOTH AND HAND HELD AND IT'S GOT THESE EASILY REACHABLE BUTTONS THAT QUITE NICELY UH SPACED OUT SO SOMETHING A BIT LIKE THAT WITH BUTTONS ARRANGED IN A KIND OF CIRCLE UP DOWN LEFT RIGHT DO YOU WANT SCROLL BUTTONS IN THAT AS WELL I I WAS THINKING NOT ACTUALLY SCROLL LIKE A LIKE MOUSE SCROLL BUT YOU KNOW A I CAN'T QUITE D UH DESCRIBE IT YOU SEE ON THE ONE ON THE RIGHT DOWN AT THE BOTTOM IS THE MOUSE YEAH SEE WHERE THE MOUSE IS LIKE THIS S STYLE THING WHERE YOU C HAVE UP DOWN LEFT AND RIGHT RIGHT AND ENTER IN THE MIDDLE SO YOU PICK YOUR MENU AND THEN YOUR DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND WHEN WHEN YOU CLICK ON EACH ONE IT YOU CAN GO INTO A NEW MENU FOR THAT I'M GETTING A BIT UH SPECIFIC HERE