skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
There are tons of all kinds of floaties in every pool I've seen in BC, Canada. The life guards seems pretty strict there, but maybe not for banning floaties.

I have no lifeguarding experience nor education, but what you are saying seems important. Any known research or training practices for lifeguards that would support your claim? I could start a dialogue with our local pool with something like that.

Thanks
No, it is censorship. The idea that private companies can't engage in censorship is incorrect, and in conflict with the definition of the word.

Doesn't make it bad, necessarily, but it is censorship.
For those arguing that they are within their rights, and free speech laws don't apply there: that's not the point. (Like most of similar situations by the way.)

It's about a company acting in a way that is alienating to its userbase. Now, many people might think retard is offensive and would prefer a sanitized environment... but many people don't. Saying "we disagree with what you did" is a way to the users to tell the company that they might be drifting away from what made them interesting in the first place.

You can be legal AND an asshole.

If every time your friend was being an asshole to you, he'd stop listening and said: "Well, it's legal.", he probably wouldn't be your friend for long.
Use the radar all the time. Tough to do if in a turn practicing instruments and single seat. The pilot was probably heads out looking for the aircraft. Could have switched to a visual acquisition mode, but probably task saturated at that point. Also may have been futile if he was in a turn and the Cesna was climbing.

Midairs happen all the time, at least a few a year. Usually this is in dynamic situations (BFM, etc) or joins, especially at night. Usually between fighters and seldom with civilians.
The parts of the "distinctiveness" and "cultural identity" we'd lose are exactly the ones we don't want in the first place.
Related article about "autistic": http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=20138

The term ‘autistic’ was endorsed by a large percentage of autistic adults, family members/friends and parents but by considerably fewer professionals; ‘person with autism’ was endorsed by almost half of professionals but by fewer autistic adults and parents.
I'd like to thank zt for posting this and wish him and his team the best of luck in whatever is happening. Hopefully this helps offset the negativity regarding the deck itself and the uncertainly about the upcoming announcement being reflected elsewhere in this thread.

This type of release, especially if it accompanies either a retrospective or a post-mortem (as appropriate), can be very helpful for the rest of us in the community and should be encouraged.
I'm rather concerned by this. Removing content for using the word 'retard' invites those who want to police behavior to try to do so by taking highly vocal offense. Furthermore, GitHub can't defend user content by falling back to free speech principles, since the obvious follow-up is to ask what the difference is between the next topic of contention and this one.

This should be concerning to anyone who enjoys things that are at risk of social sanction. Here's a short list of vaguely-plausible examples from both sides of the political spectrum:

Violent video games

Pornography

Privacy tools

Penetration testing tools

Abortion services

LGBT+ rights

Religious commentary

Political activism
Here's my concern. Let's say I forked a repo and started contributing to it. I built an app that depends on that repo. Suddenly that repo vanishes because GitHub found it some word in it offensive, and my fork and all my contributions vanish. All because of some line like:

var x = getX(); // this is retarded, needs fixing

I didn't write the said offensive code nor did I even know it was there, and GitHub possibly doesn't even tell me why the repo was deleted. At this point my trust with GitHub of keeping my code is safe is broken. When users lose trust in GitHub or feel they've gone big brother then users will jump to newer, emerging alternatives.
By the time #4 on your list happens, what makes you think anybody will be listening?
A bit early to say that. There may be others that haven't come forward yet, or that they just haven't got to yet (assuming it's not an automated process).
> Right, that forces you to reach two minutes, and also makes sure the bag will be removed promptly.

No, it does not make sure of that, besides it said 'a couple' and not 'two' (depending on the person two might very well be enough to harm them, but some might interpret 'a couple' as being even more than two).

The person was suggested to be there to make sure you can't remove the bag yourself and by the time the bag is finally removed it may simply be too late.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choking_game

"Any activity that deprives the brain of oxygen has the potential to cause moderate to severe brain cell death leading to permanent loss of neurological function ranging from difficulty in concentration or loss of short term memory capacity through severe, lifelong mental disability to death."

Suggesting people do this is highly irresponsible, this is probably the dumbest sub-thread I've seen on HN in all the time that I've been here, which is especially annoying because the main thread is one of the best.
Yeah there was this bakery I think that didn't want to make a cake for a gay wedding. That's ok too right? Or should we burn down their business?
Learn how to be a Linux user first. Are you using Linux right now? If not, either install Linux on your computer, or get another computer you can install Linux on, and start using that as your main computer. immersion is a great way to learn.
That's willful ignorance of the real issue. This is not an isolated incident. Society is increasingly rejecting any and all "offensive" language and behavior.

Should we all be nice and respectful to each other? Yes, of course. Are people that way? No. Can we police ourselves fairly and achieve a society that is not offensive? Absolutely not.
This always seems to happen in situations like this. People jump to defend the actions of the company with statements like "It's their website, they can do what they want". Which is true, except nobody is arguing that fact.
"Reach or throw, don't go" is a mnemonic for this--give the person in distress something other than you to grab.
False. When Trey Parker and Matt Stone wished to show Muhammad in South Park Comedy Central overruled them and placed a big black censored box over Muhammad in the cartoon. If you want to say that a black box with the word censored doesn't qualify as censorship then you're retarded.

You are ever correct that GitHub can ban the word if they want. They're fully within their legal right to do so.
"standards of professionalism" are used as a device of exclusion. It has a fairly narrow definition now, but that will change, just like the words "racist", "sexist" and "homophobic". You used to have to perform an action of actual malice to be accused of those things. Now, all you have to do is make an honest mistake and the entire internet's on you like jackals.
I guess by that reasoning desktop apps should go away too, and we should all run ChromeOS.
First they came for the cussers and swearers, but I didn't speak out because I don't cuss or swear.

Then they came for the homophobes and cisgendered bigots, and I cheered them on, because I value diversity.

Then they came for the conspiracy theorists, and I didn't speak out because I don't believe the reptoids are evil.

Then they came for me, and there was none left to speak out.
Reminds me of a random google SRE slide deck I stumbled across a couple of years ago. Switch itself corrupts payload; dense enough to pass the tcp checksum in use.

http://www.catonmat.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/that...
We run Docker in production, as a PaaS no less, and this reads like a list of reasons to use a new-generation PaaS.
what kind of doomsday scenario are you imagining? all the open source repos in the world slowly die as github starts censoring increasingly larger portions of the english language?
Yes. It incentivizes loudly taking offense to things. Regardless of whether or not you care about the use of the word 'retard' being taken offense to, there are many things that you do care about. It's trivially easy to find examples - millions of Americans care deeply about violence in games and media. Should GitHub police the language a violent open-source video game uses to market itself? By setting itself up as the arbiter of what is and isn't acceptable language, GitHub will be petitioned by people who want to make things unacceptable to say.

Edit: Also, people can decide to find something to take offense over in order to attack a targeted individual. This should be very concerning to you - are you sure you've never committed anything that an uncharitable person could take offense to? Imagine a few dozen very angry people combing through your work, trying to find something to get outraged about.
And legally you can eject him from your property if he does that.
I'm sorry, but I believe that allowing even one idea to be banned from discourse is the first step towards a system where someone like Edward Snowden has to find asylum in Russia.

I don't believe in censorship or hiding away what was really said or done. If anyone has a problem with this developer's language, they can boycott his repo.
> ban this word as they see fit.

Then they're going to have a busy night.

https://github.com/search?q=retard&type=Code&utf8=%E2%9C%93
Fair enough, I suppose. Still, I'll miss reading the occasional post outlining Linus' outbursts on the kernel mailing lists when that day comes.
Github is itself using an offensive term...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git_(slang)
I think where the confusion comes from is that along with many cries of "censorship", there is often a subtext of "this is illegal" or "this is not allowed".
Also, euphemism treadmill. "Retard" in the context of medication means that a drug is slowly and continously released into the bloodstream.
>> "git" in American English is not at all common.

It's common, except it's a verb, no? As Larry the Cable Guy would say, "git r done".
Given that most user generated content in GitHub is not professional then no, not really. Besides, in most circles profanity is not professional.
This is sickening. I wouldn't object is this man is executed, preferably through a mob lynching.
For how many apps do users want it to work on their laptop and tablet? Personally, if it works well on tablets only, I'd just get out my tablet when I want to use it. It's not like I'm tied to using particular devices in particular locations.
Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication or other information

The argument is it isn't suppression because as a private company, people can still choose to engage in that speech elsewhere. The government can actually make laws to stop people from saying certain things in any context.

When a private company does it, they can only do it in the medium they control and for people who choose to use that medium.
the original poem is about how germans systematically eradicated entire racial and political groups.

you're comparing it to a website that won't let you save certain content onto their servers.
I only avoided this recommendation specifically because each of the hosts has their own book to promote on the show - even though neither one seems to do so too much (Rob not so much at all anymore, but Mike's book was released recently).

I do think it is a great podcast with tons of practical, actionable advice focused at lifestyle SaaS developers.
Ugh, no! It's not because they know the best places to get meat, etc. When I cook at home I can make better meals than most restaurants I go to. I pay them because they do the damn work for me!

There are some businesses where secrets matter, but the vast majority are just in existence because they have infrastructure setup to do things cheaper/faster than you could yourself.
Nokia announces OZO virtual reality camera for professional content creators
> "I disagree with what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it"

When it comes down to it, no one would really do this.
I'm getting a 403 forbidden trying to access the page, here's a google cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:w7iPIv2...

I've often wondered about this, and PG's related essay. Should you really be trying to optimize for minimizing the number of regrets you have on your deathbed?

It seems like optimizing for a happy, fulfilling life is right for a lot of people. But that isn't necessarily the same as minimizing deathbed-regret. I have a feeling that the two might actually be quite different.
Quick biology lesson: stomachs and abdomens are different things. The stomach is an organ inside the abdomen, and the abdomen is a region of the body.

>I.e. they did! Lay people still do.

As do rude people.

Here's what you can do: invent a time machine and go back to a time when the term wasn't offensive. Then your statement that the term isn't offensive will be true. Right now, it isn't.

>Anyway, what matters here is not the standard used by the medical community

If you notice, what I said was "there is a reason [...]." My point, then, was about the reason, not the medical community. It doesn't matter what the medical standards are. What matters is that the term is offensive, a fact which prompted the medical community to stop using it.
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But, in this case, GitHub made an effort to get in contact with the repo owner and warn them of their violation of the TOS before taking action. Why do you believe they wouldn't do the same for you?
Go one step farther, is Github going to self censor?

https://github.com/search?q=language%3ABrainfuck
Mobile apps are sandboxed already.

Windows is also pushing towards sandboxing desktop apps, but look at the backlash that's received. (Although they implemented it poorly - there are two completely different types of apps, and you have to choose one?)

(Also, realistically, installing trusted unsandboxed apps generally goes fine, because if they were malicious you would've heard about it by now)
heh, with some clever social engineering and timing this could actually become a new form of attack. A lot of scripts (and Gemfiles and other things) point directly to projects on Github. Imagine an attacker managing to sneak a subtle offensive thing into a PR and get it merged in, then later complain to Github at a time when the repo owner is busy/unresponsive/on holiday. Then all the scripts or Gemfiles trying to pull down the repo fail.
There are numerous success stories about managed fisheries bringing back stocks, a good example is the Red Snapper catch share that was setup in the Gulf of Mexico;

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Completely different definition of the word. Not applicable or comparable.
> will automatically upgrade itself

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. No. Just no.
Martin Niemöller's quote[1] is an important one, possibly even more so today than when he first said it. We're so caught up in our own selfish bubbles, we're failing to consider those around us.

There are many variations of the saying - several from himself, but the best known version goes:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

[Edit 1] Removed editorialization.

[Edit 2] Reverted it. Isn't that what this whole discussion is about? Being able to say unpopular things?
From the same wiki article you're quoting from -

"Governments, private organizations and individuals may engage in censorship"

It's simply incorrect to say that private companies cannot engage in censorship.
One of the main things to keep in mind is that GH is a business. Businesses avoid negative controversies.

That said, politically correctness has the basic potential to just push these human tendencies internally. It's saying some people are too primitive and thus these things have to be made into taboos rather than let it be part of human communication flotsam.
Their refusal did not constitute censorship, if that's what you're asking.
> Socially, we've lost the "anything is possible" vibe that the early web had, thanks to oppressive governments and spying.

I'm not sure those two things have anything to do with each other.
Computational Complexity at Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
> If you want to say that a black box with the word censored doesn't qualify as censorship then you're regarded.

This is a definition of censorship that removes any useful descriptive meaning from the word. It's not censorship when I refuse to listen to offensive things or refuse to repeat them to others or allow you to graffiti it on the side of my house. Similarly, it's not censorship when a private company declines to let you use its private resources to say whatever you want.

The difference between these types of "censorship" and scary, actual government censorship is that GitHub doesn't have the authority to hold a gun to your head and compel you to be quiet. You can take your repo and host it privately and say whatever you want. Comedy Central didn't have the authority to compel Trey Parker and Matt Stone to be quiet. Parker and Stone could have terminated their contracts and posted a Mohammed cartoon through some other channel.

You rob censorship of its depth of meaning -- compulsory silencing by force -- when you apply it to private actors choosing not to use their private resources to promote others' speech.
Most of those are badwordlists.
When are you referring to? Of course nobody jumped on you like jackals before you had a global platform to offend people. You used to have to look someone in the face to offend them. Then we invented writing and the world changed.

>"standards of professionalism" are used as a device of exclusion

Indeed. You exclude the behavior that doesn't mesh well with your goals. Every law, standard, and community that has ever existed has been used as a device of exclusion. Hacker News is a device of exclusion. That's not a bad thing.
Housekeeping will never become Uber, because: a) Uber used by wide range of people of various income levels. b) Not everyone likes housekeeping done for them by someone else.
Make sure to check the privacy policy before upgrading to Windows 10: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9966236
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I don't like framing this debate in the prism of government versus private company policing. Freedom of speech is not mutually exclusive to the government.

Consider a programming club meeting once a week that is open to the public. You get there and it's 6 dudes and they are accepting of you as a coder but completely at odds with you on the social justice spectrum (using words like "gay" and "retard" as examples). You have two choices at this point. Either accept the group for who they are or leave.

This is the context in which I see Github. There's a reason why Linus can run his mouth. It's because to the old "boys" club of programmers only results matter and not the social context of the group.

They have no problem with Linus using their service while running his mouth. Why are they picking on this group in particular? It's quite simple. They are small and not important.

Let me be clear. This is very very bad for open source. Github was once considered the automatic public place to share your code. For the most part most projects live in the world of a few singular coders who put their code out to the world for sharing sake and maybe to possibly intrigue others to join their project. Many of these guys are sitting in their bedrooms or garages hacking away and not looking to open themselves up to the SJW crowd when publishing their code. Regardless of what you think of the people doing the coding (which is reflected in the comments) the point of Github was to improve the accessibility of code. I fear this move will take that mission in the opposite direction.

Successful software is almost always filled with expletives. The device you are browsing this very site almost certainly had at least one fuck in it's source code somewhere in the stack.

Just look at the Linux Kernel
http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/wordcount/
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You don't think that people would defend to the death one of the basic principles of human rights?

To be clear, I'm not saying that Github censoring "retarded" is a human rights issue, but as long as we've gone off the rails let's see where the train comes to a stop.
Pareto Principle?
Didn't they read the TOS? I guess not, because otherwise they wouldn't realize that they can do this.

They're a private entity and it's up to the customers to react. If more people are in favor of this action (which it seems so), why would they not keep doing this.
How can I become a data scientist?
(S)he thinks people think that.
We are not paying for hosting costs ..
Another well-known Troll fighter is Vizio.
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They also gladly index and help you find brainfuck repos.

I can't say fuck on TV, but it's ok on Github.

I can't say retard on Github, but it's ok on TV.

I'm glad we've accomplished something here.