skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Uhm, how? Although there were lots of trolls just looking to rile people up, a lot of the criticisms about her allegedly snubbing other females for promotions and baseless lawsuits that amounted to the same exact figure her fraud of a husband was being hounded for were perfectly valid. Or are all those forgiven because she has a vagina?
I think they should have waited for some cool off or had a 'shadow' CEO or announced this at the same time as a big cut off of some of the worst subs.

This can easily be interpreted as a repudiation of some of the things she tried to do to clean up the site, and that would be a horrible message to send.
> how you could possibly tolerate

I never said I tolerated that.

Also, I think that I explained all the "why's" behind my position pretty clearly in the original comment.

> This is pure evil.

This is bad. Labeling acts like this "pure evil" really diminishes the label.
Reddit also allows curation; you've just used the curation tools on Facebook and have not used those on Reddit.
I come from games, which actually map to OO design better than most domains, from what I can tell. And while I was briefly of the OO religion, I've since recovered and appreciate all paradigms for what they can best accomplish. I'm "Post-OO". :)

I do still consider implementation inheritance to be useful. But it's certainly used poorly in a lot of circumstances (along with MOST of OO design, including most of Java), and it may encourage bad habits. And I agree that composition is often a better answer. Depends on what you're doing.

Aside: Do JS linters actually enforce a no-semicolon policy in real projects?! I started using jshint and jscs recently in part to enforce the use of semicolons (on the advice of "JavaScript: The Good Parts"). I see that jscs has a "disallowSemicolons" rule, but I didn't know stupidity went to such depths as to actually USE that rule...I thought it was there for completeness...
> the vitriol which I kept seeing peripherally... was absolutely appalling.

I'm not a Reddit user, but the vitriol seemed pretty commensurate with what motivated it, which among other things included the despicable (and possibly illegal) firing of an employee for having leukemia (more or less).
Greece has finally caved
In what way are they not?
> But when you reply objecting to a comment that is basically just saying the type of hate a woman got on the internet was horrible

So now she got all those threats because she's a woman? What?

You know the Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory[1] right? It applies to male and females alike.

And it's pretty scummy how your comment implicates GP said she "deserved to receive those threats", when all he/she did was to point out Pao did an atrocious job and was an awful choice for CEO, and you'll never hear the board admit that.

[1] http://www.penny-arcade.com/S=0/comic/2004/03/19
Yes, they didn't get going until then, and ended up running... 4 years total?

For strategy games and such, I'm sure streaming will always be viable. As we move into the VR realm, even a tiny amount of latency won't be acceptable. So we're always going to need local rendering for action games.
> Your use of the term 'probably' suggests to me that you have not run any actual metrics.

What I really meant is that if you have a significant non-JS-supporting visitor base, you almost certainly already know it. There are a huge class of web apps that simply do not have to worry about it. If you know who your customers/visitors are then you should already know how important it is to support non-JS browsers.

> Requiring JS for a website is not okay, end of story.

It's really not the end of story, and it's not your call except for your own web apps. JavaScript is an integral part of the platform that is the web, just like HTML and CSS. You might as well make the argument that "requiring a web browser for your app is not okay, end of story."

> We all collectively understood this 10 years ago

Things were a lot different 10 years ago, and perhaps your reluctance to update your understanding less than once per decade might explain some of your views. You may as well be saying "making a store than can only be accessed over the Internet is not okay, end of story, we all collectively understood this 25 years ago."
Failure to understand Non-Profit 101. If you rely on unpaid volunteers, you can't afford to enrage them. It doesn't really matter if those volunteers are right or wrong.
sounds like an awesome project :)
This must be one of the most disturbing things I have ever seen..

(link to youtube version below)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyxSerkkP4o
Meteor.js beats rails in terms of productivity. Also it's in most cases more performant (node vs ruby thing). It requires some re-learning of how to model your data (document store vs relational data), but in most cases it's worth it.

Also soft realtime is the default, shipping mobile/desktop apps aside with your webapp requires little to no code changes, and even offline working apps are doable with ease.

Rails was fine 10years ago and popularized many paradigms when it was important... Now the world moved on and requirements changed heavily. No bad rap for rails (it paid my bills for many years!) but it left the path of innovation and is now mainly on the maintenance road and trying to catch up and thats it IMHO.
"No, don't you see? This is all about ethics in game journalism."
> feeling really uncomfortable browsing any of the major subreddits

Genuinely curious: why?
Here are two HN submissions from 2 and 4 years ago entitled 'Letter from a Psychopath. The content of course is what you'd expect from the title.

1. 2 years ago - 340 comments - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6941171
2. 4 years ago - 109 comments - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3094824
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Why don't we send probes “up” in the solar system?
Seems like just yesterday!

http://blog.samaltman.com/a-new-team-at-reddit

> I am delighted to announce the new team we have in place. Ellen Pao will be stepping up to be interim CEO. Because of her combination of vision, execution, and leadership, I expect that she’ll do an incredible job.
I've been modded down rather interestingly in this thread. Clearly someone has a beef with my observations.
To a certain extent you have to give it to them to know they'd waste it horribly.

One of the things I love about basic income is that if it's set high enough it really removes moral culpability from the rest of society.

So even if your relatives can't make good decisions, you've established a moral high ground and can safely refuse and blame them going forward, whereas if you'd never given them money, it'd all be your fault still.

The real problem with it is that's it's likely a massive labor subsidy, since basic income likely kills the minimum wage.
What? Clearly both should be banned, but banning one is much better than banning neither.
What you linked to is indeed completely dubious:

1) not targeting nor contacting anybody; not harassment.

2) discussion of another reddit post is not harassment. there was a single comment made on the post which could be considered harassing.

3) victim willingly made comment. in addition, said victim is against the banning of subreddits.

4) I have no idea how this could be considered harassment.

5) see #2

6) you can not harass a dead person

7) see #1

8) see #6

9) see #1

10) AN ACTUAL INSTANCE OF HARASSMENT! A single instance of
harassing behavior does not define an entire community.

11) The entire incident was a fabrication by a troll.
> The first rule of reddit is unsubscribing from all the default subs and searching for the ones most relevant to your interests.

But isn't that really a huge indictment of their ability to run the site? If the users who really like the site I'll do it by avoiding the horridness of the main promoted content, doesn't that signal some sort of failure in their curation or moderation?

How does a si but isn't that really a huge indictment of their ability to run the site? If the users who really like the site I'll do it by avoiding the horridness of the main promoted content, doesn't that signal some sort of failure of their curation and moderation?

How does a site like that survive long-term?
Do you have a primary source for this information?
Why should the reddit administration interfere with communities ran by third parties?

IRC networks are still running just fine with minimal intervention.
Consider this question: what about cultures throughout history which callously divided people into classes and treated the lower ones horribly?

Like slavery. Or the French aristocracy. Etc.

You could say "everyone", including people widely considered to be decent, were still participating in treating the lower classes horribly. It was perfectly acceptable to do so.

So the vast majority in those cultures found some way to "turn off" or become desensitized to feelings of remorse.

Were they all psychopaths?
I have spent a long time thinking about and looking for ways that people use to rationalize their own spending and not giving to those who are in need, and this is one of the most common reasons cited. While all my research and experience has led me to the same conclusion, that it's a bullshit psychological defense, when it comes down to it I lack enough hard scientific evidence that this is the case to really solidly prove it.

The article you posted is great, thank you for sharing. It's clean, well-written, and backed by an experiment, which is fantastic. Do you have any more material like this? On the other hand, does anyone who disagrees have any material to the contrary?
Didn't Ellen Pao her self claim that the racists and misogynists are a small minority?
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Actually multiple instances of CAFFE rendering these models is working well for me. I'm paralleling 16 processes across 8 GPUs and everything fits. (Training might not work as well.)

Spot instances are great until the random hedgefund peak sneaks in and deletes all your work.

Your guidance for people just noodling around is right on the mark, though! The 2x machines are fine for playing and, once you get the AMI set up (hint hint) it's a two minute upgrade.
Skepticism in all things is great, but if it doesn't go both ways (like you're presenting here), then it's not skepticism at all but rather a bunch of preconceived notions about what's going on behind the scenes upon which you are projecting all of this bizarre vitriol. It's great that you are so skeptical of what Reddit management is saying, but you should be equally skeptical about all of this stuff that you're imagining is really going on.
They made like 80,000 cars, how many of these are not under warranty anymore? Documentation is available and there is already aftermarket coverage for wear items. If they fail to provide access to a necessary tool for repairs, it will be leaked and distributed, but for now almost nobody seems to care.

Tesla are a small part of the automotive industry, a low volume manufacturer making products with limited availability. I think this will likely change one day, but for now, if I ran an indy mechanic shop, and advertised Tesla services, I would be surprised to get one inquiry in a year.
Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but those last two lines read to me like a callout to #gamergate's "It's about ethics in journalism" BS.
Sampling bias tends to be consistent. It is likely to be the case that, given a similar starting point, those who tend to make better decisions will tend to do better. Given that it is also likely the case that your friends and family started in a somewhat similar place, this can seem to be the effect that dominates. That is not incompatible with the notion that the bulk of poor people are not there because of a persistent habit of making bad decisions.
> the poor can't help that they're poor because, well, they're poor!

exactly :-)
> If you're referring to SRS, they're annoying and take themselves far too seriously, but as far as I know they don't try to silence anyone.

I'm a feminist,and can't stand a lot of the stuff that goes on on reddit.

That said, censorship on that website is rampant. Reddit is trying to monetize, and that means stifling speech, especially that speech critical of corporate governance.

The issue isn't as black and white as you make it. There are people with legitimate grievances. And there are people who are being sexist pigs.

Reddit will tell their userbase that the whole fiasco was Pao's fault. They will tell the board and investors that the userbase is sexist.

They think it's win win, but they are on a sinking ship.
There was a lot of evil stuff spewing about relating to Ms. Pao. It was pretty sad, and those people should feel ashamed of saying those things about anyone.

On the other hand, I don't think that she did a very good job managing the crisis (the first one caused by banning certain douchy subreddits, and the second one caused by the firing), which is one thing a CEO needs to be able to do.
> When you give money to all poor people, the net result is simply inflation

Obviously, redistributive tax + BI schemes that result in some group having more money than previously increases demand and market clearing prices for goods disproportionately demanded by that group (and does the reverse for goods disproportionately demanded by the people who are net payers.)

So, clearly, the increase in effective buying power won't be as much as the increase in income compared to the pre-policy price levels would indicate.

But that isn't sufficient to make the case that BI won't mitigate poverty, however. Just that the degree of mitigation will be less than the most naïve analysis conceivable might suggest.

(Also, the link to Newton's third law to support this position was amusing.)
wow that's sad, just discovered the site earlier today from a comment here [1], and now it's being abused. This is why we can't have nice things

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9864254
That's not what I am saying. You and I think this universe existed before humans arose because we are aware that it exists now, and that gives us a good starting point for extrapolating. If that last part wasn't there -- eg about some other universe in a multiverse -- we wouldn't know what it means for it to "exist".

Or do we? You'd have to define the word "exist" in some terms that relate it to things we are familiar with. Otherwise it is meaningless. That's my point. Trying to define existence is like trying to explain consciousness. If you think consciousness explained by souls is "woo" perhaps you should consider the nature of your concept of existence! You take it for granted and use it in a sentence without really exploring its definition.
I think a lot of folks here are missing the big question: charity involves an exchange. When you give to the poor, you get something back.

It's subtle:

The issue is not about eliminating poverty. It's about how to motivate rich people to part with their money. After all, aid to the poor comes from taxes, and the rich pay more taxes. So any kind of welfare has to give the donors of the money something in exchange for their donation. But the poor have nothing to trade for what they receive. Right?

Wrong.

The poor have their dignity. That's what they trade for donations. Every scheme for wealth distribution is informed by that fact. Rich people give money, and poor people abase themselves in exchange. That's why every welfare scheme always involves humiliation.

That's why government housing for the poor looks different from ordinary houses: so the poor will stand out, so they can be shamed.

That's why poor people have to endure long lineups at the welfare office: so they can be reminded that they are less worthy of decent consideration.

That's why poor people have to endure invasion of their most private aspects of their lives, through visits by social workers: so they can be reminded that they don't deserve privacy.

And that's why the rich don't like giving out cash: because cash is anonymous, and enables dignity, equality, and privacy.

As long as this implicit bargain (money in exchange for dignity) goes unexamined, the cruelty of the social welfare system will seem mysterious.
At current real estate prices, you can rent out the interior of that octocopter to fund its development and still have space + funding left over! :P
Thing is, in that industry being known for bending the rules is most likely a badge of honor. If you really want to go after them you need to use their tactics back on them, e.g. drag their families out of anonymity etc.
My favorite thing about Pao's loudest critics are how bad they are --- like, "ethics in gaming journalism" bad --- at concealing their agenda. "there phony extortion sexism and racism law suits", "even the media has to admit these things are facts". Real slick, there.
>Why did it take so long to deal with characters like violentacrez?

He wasn't dealt with. He deleted his account in a frantic and futile attempt to avoid exposure.

Violentacres/Violentacrez (had to block him twice) set himself up as king of the reddit underworld. The admins cast a blind eye to his antics, and in return he prevented the raw sewage from gushing onto the clean streets of the reddit front page.

He was a troll from the start, and deliberately so, even in his choice of username which he had stolen from a popular blogger at the time. This illustrates the kind of brinkmanship that was his trademark - it is not quite impersonation to steal someone else's anonymous handle, but it is not quite ethical either.

His one good point was that he kept the other reddit trolls busy via interminable (literally) troll-fights.
I strongly recommend cindy alvarez' "lean customer development" which is spot on: http://www.amazon.de/Lean-Customer-Development-Building-Cust... ... In fact the lessons learned from this book are invaluable I'd say. If you want to be serious about product design for endusers, read this.

When doing the UI/X later, this book helps a lot: http://www.amazon.de/Dont-Make-Think-Revisited-Usability-ebo...
Probably the fact that she's relatively new and seen as an outside by most in the community who wants to "ban behaviour" yet goes after ideas (see: /r/fatpeoplehate drama, while subreddits like /r/coontown and other racist shitholes were allowed to stay). Their stance on brigading that seems to not apply to /r/shitredditsays. People seemingly shadowbanned for speaking their minds. Her lawsuit (that she rightly lost) against her former employer where she claimed her gender was the reason she wasn't promoted?

Pao was the face of reddit as CEO and had to rightly "face the music", not because she's a woman. I find it incredible to see things boiled down to "they hate her cuz she's a gurl".
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> . The most critical things against Pao and her husband I have seen are posts about there phony extortion sexism and racism law suits.

What about the subreddit comparing Ellen Pao to Pyongyang [0].

Jokes about Pao with over a +4000 positive score [1] [2] Jokes comparing Ellen Pao to Hitler. [3] I remember a post to /r/pics or /r/funny of Hitler's Wikipedia page, with Pao's photo instead of Hitler.

I ran into some old coworkers (who take Reddit WAAAY too seriously) at a bar during the weekend this whole thing was first blowing up. They were literally talking about how Pao needs to die. Then they got drunk, forgot they had ranted about her, and told me again how she needed to die.

This whole thing was really disgusting and made me hate the average Reddit user. I'll still browse some of the smaller subs, but I won't be touching the frontpage ever again.

[0] http://www.reddit.com/r/paoyongyang

[1] http://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/3c03y8/ellen_paos_car...

[2] http://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/3c05wq/what_sound_doe...

[3] http://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/3c0b5p/whats_the_diff...
> but as far as I know they don't try to silence anyone.

See:

Project Panda, PREDDITORs, Their brigades (https://www.reddit.com/r/SRSsucks/comments/14iwvx/its_that_t...), the fact that they are "exempt from the non participation" requirement when linking to other subs.
> I mean, seriously, what on earth are you addressing here? Who are you talking to?

For anyone that's equally confused, I highly recommend reading the book "Trust Me, I'm Lying": http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Me-Lying-Confessions-Manipulator...

What's happening right now isn't entirely intuitive, so it's understandable to be a bit lost, but what the parent is talking about is a serious, legitimate issue.
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looks like there are some unannounced visitors (4chan) on the site now..
As I mentioned last time this was on HN, me three.

I think there's an interesting cultural weirdness about Reddit here. Part of the problem with brigading is that if you link to another post in another subreddit, you're already logged in and have exactly as much power to upvote and downvote and comment as you did on the subreddit where you came from. There's the entire "no participation" community-by-obscurity trick, where subreddit CSS hides voting links if the hostname is np.reddit.com (this is supposed to be used for translations into the hypothetical "NP" ISO-631 language), but the fact that it's a CSS trick points to underlying discontent.

On the other hand, Reddit is a great platform for small communities precisely because you're already logged in. I've never created a Lambda the Ultimate account and only think about it maybe once every six months, but I'm subbed to /r/types, so anything that flies by gets onto my Reddit home page.

I'm not sure how to reconcile these two problems. A client-side aggregator would solve the issue of visiting each independent site, but the shared login mechanism is also crucial, and is both a blessing and a curse.
Mother Teresa was a rather terrible person. She saw human suffering as a way to be closer to God and squirreled donations to her clinics away for personal bank accounts of her and her higher-class/political goons. She defended some rather evil characters and even kept a $1.25 million dollars donated to her from stolen money. When asked to return it, she simply ignored the request.
Part of the user base harassed her. Part of the user base raised valid concerns about her performance as CEO in a reasonable, well-argued manner. Part of the user base did both.

Why do people here (in this HN thread) tend to pretend it's either one or the other? When you're speaking about a big amount of people, pretending like they all behave the same way is never a good representation of a situation.
There are a bunch of techniques here: market research, price discrimination (i.e. charging more for "enterprise"), engineering techniques (e.g. testing for mean time to failure, and making it two or three times higher than whatever your warranty is).
He should
No, it isn't. Given that there was no blatantly illegal content involved, there are only two possible reasons for not treating these two subreddits the same. Either the admins are a) clueless nitwits who don't know what's going on with their own site, or b) sympathetic to one but not the other.

Which do you believe is the correct explanation? Can you see any other possibilities?
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I don't understand the preoccupation with the "media." It doesn't seem to me like news sites had much to do with this saga.

Is there a mountain of unfair coverage I didn't see? It seems kind of obvious that Reddit is much more "the media" than any clickbait news site. And wasn't the whole point of "blacking out" subreddits to gain media attention?
So questioning ethics in any kind of journalism anywhere is automatically BS now because of some random highly-opinionated internet drama? Way to discourage critical thinking. Orwell and Huxley would be proud.