skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I agree that, from the public information, it sounds like both of those terminations were potentially ill-advised. (There's also rumors that both of them were loosely tied to Yishan's everyone-in-SF policy, as it happens, but only rumors.) Obviously there's more going on than the public will ever know, unless Reddit corporate email ends up on Wikileaks, so I don't actually have an opinion on them because I don't have anywhere near enough information to make having an opinion worthwhile.

However, unless I misread this thread, the conversation wasn't about whether employee terminations were well-advised. I was talking about which Reddit employees received interminable ugliness from Redditors, and whether it was correlated with what the public knew about their performance in their jobs.

To my knowledge, there was no public discussion, vitriolic or otherwise, of either /u/kickme444 or /u/chooter's performance before their terminations, so I'm not sure what point you are making. (There were some comments that received flak for supporting /u/ekjp's "Removing Harassing Subreddits" post.)

edit: I should also note that I'm not taking any position on the merit of /u/ekjp's departure, as mediated by the Board. Probably it was the right thing to do for the site, and quite likely it was the right thing to do for her, as well, but again, I'm not privy to anything that would let me have a well-informed opinion. I am only taking a position on the vitriol leading up to it. I think we'd both agree that it would be a bad thing if the vitriol was causative -- either if the Board relented to the worst parts of the mob (instead of, say, to respectful argument about why she's the wrong CEO), or if she stepped down because she couldn't take it any more -- and I'm hoping and assuming that it's not the case.
> You think "the media" is intentionally causing confrontation as part of some collusion with Reddit to make money?

GP isn't implying any collusion. The media is intentionally causing confrontation just fine on its own.

> I saw racist and sexist posts personally

Nobody is claiming the hateful stuff didn't exist. But painting "Reddit" as sexist while conveniently ignoring the 90-9-1 rule and focusing on Pao's gender instead of atrocious track record is... in bad taste, to say the least.
Protip: If you have to resort to attacking someones grammar when you're out of counter arguments it means you lost the debate.
This was really helpful, thank you. That's the type of format I was looking for.
Of course, people sometimes miss the forest for the trees and forget about the obvious.

Torture is very effective when you are certain the subject actually knows the target information and the information is easily verifiable.

For example, I have a copy of your encrypted hard drive (a copy to prevent self-destructs) and I beat you with a rubber hose until you give me a password that works. This is pretty simple and obviously effective. The ease of verification and quick consequences eliminates the value of lying. If I'm mistaken and it isn't your hard drive, this is treated as a separate failure.

I can even see (a very small number of) morally justifiable situations in which this is acceptable.

There's a difference when you can't be certain the subject knows the information you want – or if that information isn't easily verifiable. (Where's the leader of your cell going to be next Thursday?)

It's often the case that being nice to folks is a whole lot more effective. Especially with the "death to America" kinds of subjects. Kind words, a soft bed, and a hot meal given to a person who was raised in an environment where Americans were believably depicted as monsters can do a lot to make a person cooperative. Especially if you show it as an opportunity to 'get out'. You can hear compelling stories to this effect in many places.
You mean there might be thousands of jerks in a population that is measured in 9 figures? Say it ain't so!
The description also seems to fit a, "sociopath" as well. There's sometimes incredibly likable, until you hear about some of the ways they act.
Yeah, exactly. Also, firing someone without some kind of plan for redistributing her duties is a Management 101 no-no. Ellen Pao failed as CEO of Reddit. That has nothing to do with the 1% or whatever of Reddit users who are racists and/or misogynists. That's just the real world; you have to get past the obnoxious idiots and focus on what matters. The reason Ms. Pao was fired (let's be honest) is that she failed to make Reddit more profitable, attractive to users, and generally awesome. Not because she's a woman, not because there are people out there who don't want to see women succeed. Make money and all is forgiven. Pissing off large, meaningful chunks of your user base is not conducive to making money.
While I personally like git's curated commit model (in particular the "keep trying until you get it right and then merge" approach rather than a series of "fix the fix" commits that don't all build), I do think Joey has hit on an interesting principle of many git-using communities, and how it has affected the tools used to maintain that principle.
> Where is the limit? Coontown, does that get banned? Sexwithdogs? Incest? SRS?

Cynically? When they start making /r/all.

My own personal opinion is that FPH was an embarrassment to reddit because it had gained enough traction that it was visible outside of its own little bubble, so they nuked it and took a few other inconsequential subs with it to provide plausible cover that they weren't just straight up censoring FPH for the sake of the brand image.
Sebastien Han is showing how to install 1.3 (and other versions too) using Ansible here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv_PEp9qAqg&feature=youtu.be
Yes because people tend to apply it to people they don't like instead of people that objectively are potentially dangerous. This justifies a lot of bad things including and not limited to restricting ones empathy towards that person because "they have no feelings".

Your boss fires you without any emotion, from his side of the story it is because you annoyed him for a very long time and it was finally the last straw. To you he is a psychopath who doesn't consider any of your feelings having to do with being fired. You go to his house, armed, because people like that deserve to be "put down". You do something stupid and get put in jail, "but it's all his fault, he's the psychopath!"
We can't all be winners.
That's exactly why the inverted advice needs to be heeded, so that that sucky experience, which does still occur daily with a lot of sites and apps, goes away by default.

Note, I'm absolutely not saying that a big screen desktop experience isn't inherently better for all but the simplest apps, there's very high probability it is because it's more ergonomic hardware with far more screen real estate.

However since most people want to, and do use mobile in preference to desktop for a huge proportion of tasks now, the design philosophy in most cases needs to flip from 'full functionality for desktop, scale down gracefully for mobile' to 'full functionality for mobile, scale up for desktop, taking advantage of the extra UX potential where possible'.

It's actually a far more optimistic, and creative, approach. Make it, then enhance it for the less popular use case rather than make it, then degrade it for the less popular use case.
I'm pretty sure the medical community at large considers sociopathy and psychopathy to be the same thing, if they are considered at all. 'Traditional evilness' isn't really the kind of symptom a psychiatrist can use.
It's not the volume of patches that's a problem. Linux is actually pickier than most projects about "one logical change per commit". However, I'm a big fan of "every single commit must compile and be logically correct".

The combination of the two can make it difficult to "evolve" the code incrementally towards a wildly different solution, but I think it's a good step to reduce the complexity individual developers and maintainers have to deal with, as well as enforcing desirable properties of the resulting git commits.
I completely and utterly disagree with this opinion, and furthermore find it dangerous for what it suggests - specifically, the idea that a large group of anonymous people can do anything but fall prey to their collective impulse.

I would argue that decisions of large bodies of anonymous people are historically and demonstrably inaccurate, misleading, nearsighted, and wholly terrible for not only the decision they're making, but also the good of the body itself.

Groups of people, at a sufficient capacity, are simply some of the worst, most base, and utterly abhorrent things to exist on this planet, and claiming that the disapproval displayed by the group calling itself "Reddit" is "telling" would be, to say the least, a misstep.
I guess it just goes to show that Tesla (or whoever ends up betting the farm on electric cars) still have a lot of way to go before we see something approaching critical mass. All of the chargers are placed OK assuming you don't leave the interstate, but I think we're going to need to see some serious infrastructure upgrades before electric cars become totally viable alternatives (for some of us that often go cross country, anyways).
https://www.reddit.com/r/deepdream/ has many static images with this effect (and a few videos too).
You make "main promoted content" sound more important than it really is. The front page is just one page. It could default to being blank.

Global curation could help reddit, but the site actually needs very little of it. It can survive without main promoted content at all.
They said they're pulling it offline for the weekend
It was plainly apparent who "the clint" was.

That got on my nerves.

"'The client' is really, really happy with all the prototype boards that we just soaked The American Taxpayer for."

"Great. Please tell 'The Client' that YOU SELECTED THE WRONG "PART!"

Click.

I have the idea that I could offer the consulting service of selecting 'The Parts' to the extent they are unclassified. They often are. But I dont have the first clue as to how to get started. Among my concerns is that some contractors dont want to pay someone to tell them how to avoid cost overruns.
Only when the truth can't be hidden (eg, when the ousted is going to jail)
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To expand on the bit about there being more torture than we know: 80% of the CIA report was censored from public view.
Did you read the page you linked?

Try clicking on the "About IA at NSA" link and you'll find out what NSA means by "Information Assurance":

> NSA's Information Assurance Directorate (IAD) protects and defends National Security Information and Information Systems, in accordance with National Security Directive 42. National Security Systems are defined as systems that handle classified information or information otherwise critical to military or intelligence activities.

Or in other words, what I just said...
Genericisation is pretty orthogonal to supposed "failure to police". Moreover genericisation is definitely not an issue here as the trademark is being used to refer to the services of the trademark owner.

>one of the easiest ways for a term to become generic is via unauthorized third party use //

Yes, sort of. The third parties are the public though. In practice words used as marks don't become generic terms because your competitors infringe your trademark, they become generic when you corner the market and in the public perception your product becomes synonymous with that type of good/service. Ordinarily when people raise this "failure to police" argument they're claiming that Jack Daniels have to sue - for example - a writer for using a similar style of writing on their book-cover or they'll lose their RTM.

>I don't understand how that isn't a huge trademark issue for kickstarter, since american trademarks are on the base of "protect it or lose it". (Mithaldu up-thread) //

The badge does appear to use the authority of Kickstarter's mark, in order to sell Kickstarter's product, this isn't a competitor appropriating a mark but a customer using a mark without express permission. There might be a case for exhaustion of rights (where a supplier can't sue a customer for retailing goods with their TM on). It's not deceptive of origin and apparently it's also truthful.

Incidentally "kickstart a project" is perfectly acceptable - you can't trademark common language, or rather you can sometimes but still not prevent others from using that language. "Kickstarter" wasn't and isn't a term in the relevant fields, indeed the part of a motorbike is just a kickstart but normal extension of language would have someone who kickstarts something termed a "kickstarter" - it's a terrible choice for a RTM and should probably have been rejected by the USPTO.

In truth Indiegogo should triumph over such an attempt by Kickstarter to sue for RTM infringement, but Indiegogo would probably be shy as IP cases are seemingly often poorly judged.

"kickstart" is already common language, "Kickstarter" isn't however: "I'm looking to kickstart this project" doesn't use the RTM.
You lost me. What is the linked article supposed to be an example of? Would we be having a different conversation if the thread linked to the Reddit announcement instead?

And I don't think racism or sexism is something to be taken lightly. I don't think the New York Times does either, which is probably why the fact that there were racist and misogynistic posts about Ellen Pao was noteworthy enough to include in 8th graf of the article.
Is this really in the spirit of a Show HN post? It's basically an advertisement to rent someone's space.
How do you know he's bisexual?

You're guilty of making a vast assumption about the context.

What would be wrong with a marriage of political or business convenience involving no sex, if that's what it is? Obviously nothing. You've matter-of-fact labeled his sexuality without knowing either way.
It depends on the type of work you do and the size of the projects you work on.

If you work on small projects with a 1 month ramp up time then it's not a big deal to leave after a year.

On the other hand I'm currently working on a million+ loc application and the typical ramp up time for a good dev is 6 months. I'm not going to hire somebody who will probably be gone in a year.
> Regardless, it's a wonderful way to get your work/license dismissed as non-free software, as non-professional, and as offensive all at the same time

While since either the terms offered to the preferred class or those offered to the non-preferred class seem to meet the free software definition (the non-preferred class gets pretty much equivalent to BSDL terms, the preferred class gets somewhat more generous terms), it seems to be an offensive, non-professional but Free (permissive, non-copyleft) license.

That, of course, assumes that the contradiction between the last two bullets and the first two is resolved in favor of the last two being controlling. Though, if the first two are controlling where they conflict, its just a clumsy, unprofessional way of producing the effect of a straight 2-clause BSDL, which is also Free.
Saying that online activists are equally to blame as misogynists and racists for the devolution of civil dialog online is sort of like insisting on creationism getting equal media coverage to evolution on the basis of fairness.
Well, there's the idea that you can't judge a past culture (or even a different culture) using the same values as your own.

Consider perhaps coming from a culture that is 100% vegan, then being transported to the US, where eating meat is not only accepted, but celebrated. Would you call those people psychopaths that have been somehow desensitized?

Certainly, there's justification to the actions (I'm hungry! Meat tastes good!), but perhaps the jump that all meat eaters are pyscopathic murderers sounds a bit suspect. I mean, I don't know: I'm in the US, and I eat meat .

Perhaps take a human rights issue. Is being homophobic psychopathic? What about owning people as property?
It is enlightening to see that the Joseph Mengeles and Shiro Ishiis of our times are not subject to any sanction.

Mengele was actually pursued, but Shiro Ishii is (in)famous precisely for getting away scot-free in the most nonchalant manner possible: simply by releasing the data.
I have lots of ideas as to how to change that; the problem is not unique to the government.

Real Soon anow http://wew.warplife.com/jobs/ will redirect to a domain that my brother in law will register for me because my reputation for speaking my mind has made me completely unemployable.
Let's get two things out there right now:

1. Nowhere in this thread was someone saying "Rape is Bad", without a bunch of other words around it. Nor was there anyone saying "I disagree", without a bunch of nuances and explanations around it.

2. You're still playing the politician game, trying to reduce the argument down to what suits you best, even after being called out on it.

I'm not falling into this trap. If you want a sensible discussion, please feel free to actually try and elaborate rather than present riddles and try to play tricks.
maybe i'm old fashioned, but why do we need an app for everything? Seems like the things these 5 apps teach there are better real-life ways of teaching
Well, we can all chip in to help move it forward.

Behavior like his should be rewarded, and the behavior of those he outed should be punished.

How else are we going to stop torture?

To send Kiriakou $USD is to take real, meaningful action against torture.

There is something to be said for doing good for goodness sake, but wouldn't it be great if people knew that honorable behavior could also be rewarding in both senses of the word?
> By no means did she clear up Reddit. But at least I saw she tried to do something, dipping her toe into the battle. And I'm worried I'll be back sliding on that.

The main problem I think most people had with it wasn't that there was action taken. It's that it was arbitrary, there were no guidelines given, and there was no consistency.

If there had been a set of community guidelines published, a week given for moderators to rein in their members, and then the ban hammer had come down, I doubt anyone would have cared.

It was probably incompetence rather than malice -- same as firing Victoria -- but the fact is that there were arbitrary actions taken with no explanation, warning, or chance for people to prepare.
... and he did a good job for years while she doesn't have much to show. What's your point?

edit: i figure u re saying one was harassed more than the other?
on the op's hn bio "Co-founder of MonsterCreate, a mobile app company inspiring the next generation of artists, musicians and engineers."
> If you give a Kickstarter money, you might get a product; you won't get any equity. Whatever that makes it, it's more a shop than it is an investment platform.

Its a donation platform with the possibility of receiving something for your donation.
Just because no-one is literally drawing a moral equivalence between her and Hitler doesn't mean it's not a shitty thing to say, or that you're not a dick for saying it.
Aren't you leaving out all the networking by the games by doing that? My college was famous for blocking multiplayer starcraft games a new way every week and us students finding a way around it every week. Kind of sad Blizzard eventually sued the B.NET replacement that was needed due to crappy filtering like that.
Which if you click further around in that section of the NSA website, you'll find that NSA is only talking about information assurance of classified and sensitive military information, not any information handled anywhere in the government.
I remember reading about how openSSL had like one programmer and he used his own funds.

It's embarrassing that we let this shit happen. this is why I think cs needs some form of labour union ( like the brotherhood of teamster, I didn't know truck drivers got better wage than half of us ) the wages keep on dropping and we have no say in where to divert investment.
No it isn't. Star Trek, at least the version with replicators, is made possible by limitless available energy and matter<->energy conversion.
> Her firing was indicative of the lack of appreciation / recognition given to the moderator's, and was just another example of the disconnect and (perceived) exploitation of moderator time/effort without the proper support and tools

Which long predated Pao at reddit. But even giving her the responsibility for this, nowhere is the apparent gross incompetence apparently seen by those calling so vociferously for Pao to be fired.
What exactly is sexist about comparing someone to Hilter? Would the sexism change if the person being attacked fit under another demographic? Is it OK to criticize say Christopher Columbus because he is a white male. Please enlighten me.
I just used the word to refer to the point made in the original comment. I didn't really make any statements or assumptions about this person, and my comment wasn't even about this person at all — my comment was about the semantics of the parent comment.
Hmm, October through May, snow blower included? On the plus side its probably great for focus, on the down side its going to be a haul to resupply mid-winter. Although with another outbuilding for supplies and pulling gigabit fiber from the Internet all the way out to the house, you could treat it like the Arctic stations and just work solid for 8 months.
Bush was compared to Hitler endlessly. But that probably didn't bother you. Public figures, especially unpopular ones, are subject to ridicule. It happens.
But hey - they erase their disks 7 times and spike them before they throw them away - so we are safe now.
Watson API Client released
93% later we'd be able to stop worrying about hacking and love the open Internet.
I agree! I'd also wonder why so little information is given in hours. We have that likely horizon of mastery at 10k hours and we have a soft limit of "usability" at about 3k hours. But maybe the thing is, nobody really counts. Like, I can tell you when I started to study my major, which led me to spend a lot of time on programming, taking it serious for the first time. Now I work full time as a software developer but do I spend 30 hours, or 10 hours, or 50 hours programming a week? Can't tell. There are lot of things involved, no matter if you're a student or a full time worker. Not all of them count. And going back to your Japanese example. Sometimes the drunken two hours you've spent in a Karaoke bar trying to impress local girls was worth much more than the previous 10 hours study session because these two hours were marked as important memories by your brain and the previous ten hours were boring. It's really hard to calculate, right? Also that study which came up with that 10k hours for mastery stated that many people very much overestimate hours spent, which from feeling I would agree. Like, since I work full time I don't believe any more that people really spend 40+ hours working. It's closer to 20 or 30 hours depending on the person. The rest is spent smoking, chatting, fighting via email, reading HN. And from own experience I also know that 12 hours of doing nothing can be just as tiring as working hard. ;)