skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
It doesn't say

Embrace all viewpoints.
Allow total freedom of expression.

There is a long tradition of seeking robust debate. There is also a long tradition of expecting some measure of decorum.
This is a topic I'm legitimately curious about. 4chan existed in a form for a very long time such that (aside from any stated rules) harassment was ubiquitous (at least in /b). That being said, that same domain formed a basis for massive swaths of the internet community and culture we see today.

In any place I've seen these sorts of gestures of "safe-ification", they seem to serve only to 1. be ineffective; for whatever moderation you have it's going to have edge cases and a time delay for enforcement. 2. Split the community, create _more_ (and often more subtler, now that it has to conform to some rulebook) harassment/drama between the split. 3. Drive away productive parts of the community, for any variety of reasons. (for me it's a mix of "I've seen this pattern before and don't like where it goes" and "I don't agree that trying to dictate social standards is the proper way.")

Caveat, and I'm somewhat frustrated that I feel like I need to say this (whether that's at myself or the fear that I'll be jumped on if I don't), I was _VERY_ heavily bullied/harrassed for much of my childhood.

I caveat as such to try and say that I don't hold this stance from a position of ignorance, but that if I hadn't interacted with bad actors in places that are frankly more insulated from real life (the internet) I would have never come to (yes, painful, but still VERY useful in hindsight) realizations about human interaction and my role in it.

This rambled a bit, so tl;dr,
Dealing with bad actors is how we learn to deal with bad actors, which is a _critical_ life skill.
This even aside from that the strategy being applied does not have a successful history, from what I've seen.
(I'm trying to avoid the slippery slope argument, although that's kinda implicit in my second conclusion, I'd rather hear what other people think on this concept of growth through pain, or if it's all in my head)
My first thought on the satellite network he is launching was to help power self-driving Teslas.
> They are literally putting his life and life of his family in danger.

The world is filled with millionaires and billionaires who are publicly known and yet perfectly safe, even though the vast majority of them don't have security guards or anything like that.

Why do you think things would be different for the creator of Bitcoin? The reality is that very few criminals are of the take-hostages-and-murder type in the first place and murdering or stealing from a semi-famous rich person is a surefire way to get caught, especially when Bitcoins are traceable in a way that cash is not. You might as well break in and steal a Picasso painting from some other millionaire.

There are lots of people who want to remain private and unknown; the best (though not guaranteed) way is to not do anything worthy of the public notice. If you do, you should expect some scrutiny. So while I sympathize with Szabo, I don't feel very sorry for him. He pursued his dream of working on cryptocurrency (whether or not he is Satoshi) and this is a perfectly reasonable and predictable consequence of that dream.
- From the creators of nothing you've heard of

- From the creators of this site and its previous version

- After being compared to Duke Nukem Forever

- "I’ve never agreed to having my face used on the itemz website"

- "There are millions of task management apps. Creating another one is just stupid."

- "I don’t use this app and I‘m not planning to start"

Despite OP saying otherwise in this thread, this has to be a joke.. right? Every page/video seems to have things like this. OP, if you are serious get a native english speaker (you said you weren't one) to go through the site.
First, “sad compromise” is a pejorative value judgement and that line of reasoning has just been marketed by people who are appealing to the authority of the legacy OSI model to make “this is new and different and I don't like that” sound more compelling. To make that argument more compelling, someone has to actually do the hard work of analyzing the protocol and pointing out actual, specific engineering problems caused by it which would be fixed by using something like SCTP or why, for example, the predicted sky falling hasn't occurred with in 15 years of TLS not being implemented at the kernel level.

Thus far, the only serious work I've seen shows that something like SCTP or QUIC could possibly be a fair percentage faster on lossy networks. That's something which merits future work, particularly since either would be relatively easy to swap into place for the lower levels of HTTP2 now that the protocol has first-class support for the concepts, but it doesn't seem like a good reason to roll back deployment of a production-ready protocol to wait for everyone to upgrade their kernels first.

> there also will be a lot of proxy/firewall appliances that block HTTP/2

The beauty of reusing HTTPS is that this not the case for most firewalls and since HTTP/2 did not change the semantics, the default behaviour for anyone running an old tampering proxy is not to enjoy the performance benefits but otherwise experience no problems. That seems like a good compromise to me: full backwards compatibility with the cost of non-support being born by the slackers and reusing existing practice means that a much smaller percentage of users are affected.

> nagging reminder: "Your web-experience would be much improved (or: this premium content could be watched at higher resolution, or security to your banking website, or...) if your network infrastructure would support SCTP/IPv6/DNSsec/, please ask your ISP or Administrator".

The problem with this is that most users will just ignore the message and the few who try to escalate it are probably going to be told no because if their ISP/corporate IT was good they'd never have seen the message in the first place.
Indian developers are not over-rated. Infact noone outsources India because they think they think that Indian coders are geniuses.

They know that Indian developers are mediocre but management believes that mediocre is "good enough" at half the price , and guess what , it might hurt your ego , but in many cases mediocre developers + long working hours can solve most problems that typical devs encounter. You just need a good dev overseeing the efforts if the project is complex.
Eh, that is usually applied to discussions about living in America, not using a specific service. After all, it doesn't even make any sense in this context (move to Russia and... use Reddit still?).

You're right that this one is an awful argument because it's not within anyone's power to move to Russia, usually (or otherwise move away from the various laws and regulations that apply to them in the US). However, they absolutely can use a site other than Reddit without problems.
I'd be curious about their exact definition of "safe space". That term on college campuses is rapidly evolving exactly into ensuring that a diversity of viewpoints is not even seen or heard, let alone embraced.

I mean this straight; I'd honestly be interested in hearing an elaboration from them, not as snark about how they can't possibly mean it or something. Again, no sarcasm or snark, high principles are hard.
Merely because she is a woman who had the guts to sue her employer. Or, because she is a woman really.

I'm glad they are finally taking steps to clean up their toxic community.
ColorSnapper 2
Those who trust their governments already use government-issued money. Nothing will change. Bitcoin made for those who don't think that government should be able to control money.
Why would anyone want to kill the author of a software project that has been already released as an open source?
I mean, rules are applied by the mods of each different subreddit, right? I don't doubt some subreddits have huge problems, but IMO the majority don't, and the site itself works just fine.
It would really depend on implementation wouldn't it?

The incredibly strict anti-trolling policies around HN do make it a great place to come back to years later. Though HN also takes care to engineer the social interactions here too. (scores are hidden, upvotes only until you get to a certain karma level)

I do tend to worry a little about bias and inconsistent enforcement of their policies, but also believe that we'd have to see that play out over time.

Without question the stated goal of "diversity" is noble, valuable and, deserves to be pursued. The problems arise in their definition of diversity. Does it mean what I think it means?

What about their definition of "safe"? We're really going to have to wait and see.

I think calling this the demise of reddit is a bit premature.

Though I also struggle to believe that deleting the extremes will make it a more interesting or compelling place to be around.

There's a reason that maniacs stop taking lithium.
This happens with presidential names in general. See Lyndon (http://rhiever.github.io/name-age-calculator/index.html?Gend...) or Dwight (http://rhiever.github.io/name-age-calculator/index.html?Gend...).
"Think of the children" justifications for normalizing private sector censorship seem to be a contemporary ruling class focus. Pao's contribution is a smart career move.
I agree.

Starting something like this isn't necessarily the death knell, but the inevitable unequal application of it will be.
Yes. I don't think it's been reported that Nick Szabo has been involved in any BitCoin startup, let alone an exchange called "Vaurum" / "Mirror." Credit to the guy: in the world of the Internet where perfect privacy is nearly impossible, not so much as a picture of him has surfaced. Or, well, until recently; if you do a Google Search of his name one of the photos seems similar (sans beard) to the physical description of him in this article.

Despite this, he has to this day remained an extraordinarily secretive individual, while being widely suspected to be the creator of BTC. Looks like all that practice (http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1993/10/msg00759.html) paid off.
Or, alternatively: the erosion of wages in the face of rising inflation has placed a reasonable lifestyle out of the reach of many people. No longer can a household function on a single income while owning a home and raising a couple kids. Unfortunately society demands such a lifestyle from folks in order to be deemed a "success" and so people life beyond their now eroded means because they only alternative is to give up the dream they were sold every time someone opined about the "American Dream".

Of course the alternative view is to blame these folks and tacitly assume that the right to a comfortable lifestyle with a couple kids is a luxury only for the rich.
A moderator can't shadowban you. But someone criticizing Ellen Pao got a shadowban recently, which means the actual administrators (Reddit employees) did it. I don't know if it was for criticizing her or for something else.
>The fear is of some future AI which acts only to further its own pathological interests... but how would that be different from present-day corporate bureacracies, with business processes increasingly driven by weak (but rapidly improving) AI?

It's not that different at all, which is precisely why we need to avoid both options on this dichotomy. Also, I think you meant to reply to the thread about the other NYRB article above.
Pill of super-protective 'heavy' fat may treat degenerative diseases
we also have a right to privacy which the entity behind Satoshi chose to excercise, shouldn't that entitle him to some discretion?
This can give rise to pointless optimizations, as clueless 'architects' from BigCo learn about this and start forbidding non-ISO-8859-1 strings everywhere on unsubstantiated performance claims.
I agree... I don't think that other chains necessarily make more "natural" food than McDonalds and I wasn't really trying to draw out that comparison. I'm not a paleo/organic advocate by any means. "Country base" and "natural base" are euphemisms if I've heard them. Those places do have a better marketing tact though.

Just stumbled across this response from McDonald's themselves... maybe it's less about preservatives and more about dry and salty food (a la beef jerky) http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/your_questions/our_food/why-d...
I legally changed my name last year, so I have the fortune of having two sets of names to play with.

Here are my observations (note that I'm not actually posting my deadname here, but I'll still post my thoughts on it):

Old first name: My parents were spot on. I'm well within the typical age, and the median year was only four years off from my birth year. It had a very high spike in the 70s and 80s, and it's since gone down to 1970 levels and stayed there.

Old middle name: On the other hand, my parents gave me an old man's name. The age range starts at 47, and I'm 30. It peaked in the early '60s and was a curiosity by the time I was born.

New first name (Amy): I'm a little off here, but not by much. I'm only a year outside the typical range. When I was born, it had already been in decline for a few years, but it had far from bottomed out yet.

New middle name (Jessica): Spot on. Median age is only three years away from my actual birth year, and I was born really close to the peak. Oddly enough, when I was putting together my new name, I originally wanted Jessica to be my first name, but I ended up changing my mind and making it my middle name because I liked Amy better. Shame it crashed so hard in the last few years.
Women...
Nice work! Was Hariton Pushwagner a concious inspiration, or is it just coincindentally similar?
I am not currently working, I guess that leaves some space for women or under-represented people to work the job I would hold.
> even though the vast majority of them don't have security guards

as if.
The papers publish lists of the world's richest regularly, most of them are still walking around.

People on those lists do sue the papers sometimes, but not usually for having their wealth overestimated - http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/07/us-britain-saudi-b...
If your devs are bright and want to learn something new, go for Clojure. If you already have strong Java skills and need to deliver fast, go for Java 8.
Anything banned from reddit that is only allowed on chans does not constitute free speech in my opinion. Most likely it is hateful, or immoral.

I think that probably aligns reddit closer with the USs definition of free speech.
Well, that's actually relevant the policies being discussed here. If they were criticising Pao in a reasoned, sensible way, that's a problem. But if, as often happens on Reddit, they flew off the handle and were abusive/inflammatory/etc. then perhaps they deserved it. It's a similar system to how Hacker News operates, AFAIK.
Has anyone heard of something called "ignore"? It is possible to do online.
No need to click through anymore. Check this out, posted a few days ago, worth reiterating.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9531941
I don't think this is nearly the case here, but to answer your question publication of false information with "reckless disregard" for it's truth or falsity is also actionable under New York Times v. Sullivan. NYT does not have to believe it to be false to have First Amendment protections stripped.
Doesn't disabling "Set the same volume for all tracks" in advanced prefs disable normalization?
>"A society that runs on robot slaves who are, nevertheless, intelligent by virtue of having a human neural connectome for a brain, is a slave society.."

Why the bloody hell would you do that!? There's no point in putting a human mind in a slave-machine when you could just write a wholly adequate artificial inference engine.
Can you elaborate? Use reddit a lot, never heard of a hellban.
Yeah, maybe I have been burned a few times by the usual BOFH IT processes where one can only use the tools that are offered by the OS vendors, and only in special cases is allowed to use third party tooling.

In any case, as language geek, I always wish all programming languages find their place, specially those trying to make programming safer.
It took me more than two years to be able to downvote people. This is not a good thing.
Satoshi has lots of bitcoin. People are worrying about Nick getting threatened for money, not killed for the creation of the software.
Just like how intelligence organizations wraps their methods with "hunting pedophiles and terrorists".
> In the context of software, popular as in powering half of the web means stable, reliable and battle-tested.

No, it doesn't, it merely means popular.
Wordless Communication of Twin Painters
No, sorry--I'm not deep enough into this speculation to have heard of Nick Szabo. I didn't read your mind to know that your level of knowledge is far greater than mine on the topic.

I just previously read the Wired piece that profiled the wrong man, and the ensuing discussion here.
so much William Gibson in the Bitcoin mystery
Complexity Etc
I recently had a contract job where I worked on code written by indian dev's. My main reaction was that they were actually quite capable and knew more than a few tricks, but these particular dev's were also making a large number of amatuer mistakes. There was a lot of copy/pasting of large blocks of code, for example.

My impression was that if they knew more high level theory, and did things in a more organized way, that they could be even more lazy and make even more money.
hear hear! (i agree)
I think the whole Web PKI needs a do-over, and it can't happen soon enough.

I work in software security and design security solutions for and with competent customers. In the past couple of years (post Snowden), every design for every one of these customers have been with the assumption that the CA model is broken and can't be trusted - this is a big step.

Personally I find the Wildcard SSL certificate a particularily ugly hack for the broken state of the web PKI.

Ideally, I should be able to get my own site certificate and use that to sign the server certificates for all my services in my domain. The beauty of this is that my site's private key does not need to be on any on my exposed servers, and I can revoke and re-issue certs for servers individually.
This does ofcourse not work, since the certificates aren't limited to domains as such, which correctly is pointed out is a glaring flaw of the entire system.

I'm not going to rant about ASN.1 - let's do that another time.
[FYI: I work for AgileBits, maker's of 1Password]

Yea, hindsight is definitely 20/20. I think the issue was that this is a whole new way to use 1Password. While the transition from Mac to iOS was a fair bit easier, it wasn't having to rethink the data itself. That was just the interface.

With the Watch we had to rethink what data was going to be visible. We certainly can't show users all of their data on the Watch, it would be too difficult to locate and view all of that data.

We had wanted to add OTP support for awhile and were pretty excited about it. We also thought the Watch was a great way to let users see their one time passwords, but this is also why we showed people the application behind the scenes so we could gauge interest. We were excited but it turns out not everyone was as excited as we were, so we had to rethink it.

Our use case for this is definitely going to be a bit more difficult than some other applications. They generally tend to display notifications or similar types of bite sized bits of data. We have to find bite sized data that also isn't a worry for security reasons to just have in the open potentially.

Designing for new products, screen sizes and then having to think about the security side of it is a tough combination.

We really just wanted to give our users some inside information. It's sort of like what Marco Arment did with his Apple Watch design and redesign of Overcast. While his focused a lot on interface, our's focused a lot on what we felt was the more complicated bits for us.

Thanks for reading!

Kyle
Those millionaires and billionaires by and large do not have large piles of untraceable money sitting around. Killing them wouldn't enrich the killer appreciably. Satoshi, whoever he is, does have a large pile of what may be untraceable money though. There is a world of difference between him and the others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellbanning

HN uses it too sometimes. Basically, a hellbanned user doesn’t know they’ve been banned: they can still comment, add submissions etc. The difference is that all their activity is hidden to normal users.
So Reddit's got this community called "Shit Reddit Says", also known as 'SRS'. It originally started as a group of Something Awful users doing what can be described as a trolling operation.

SRS's stated goal is to highlight people on Reddit saying bad things (casual racism, stuff like that). Someone from the community finds a post somewhere on reddit they feel meets the criterion, and they post it there. Often immediately afterwards, the post, and the user who made it, begin losing karma at a rate that cannot be described as coincidental.

One of the rules in SRS is "don't touch the poop" - you're not supposed to participate in a thread that gets linked there. However, looking at the relation between post time on SRS, and karma over time, there's no other explanation for what happens to the scores of comments that get posted there.

Before you say "meh, racists, who cares?" - two problems. First, SRS's aegis has expanded to cover any criticism of the social justice movement, rather than actual hurtful comments. Second, what's happening is explicitly against the site rules regarding vote manipulation (vote brigading) - other subreddits who engaged in similar behavior had to institute rules that mandate either "no participation" links (a CSS hack that disables the voting buttons), or outright banning of intra-subreddit linking at the urging of site administration staff.
Java, SQL Top Google's 'Most Searched Software Technologies' List
Often what they leave behind is nearly unmanageable code that cost's 2x as much to maintain and support.
Well, at least they are doing something. It seems like Reddit has tripled staff and VC money but has been doing exactly zero, nada, zilch. The site is the same, as are the ads, the downtimes, the loading problems, the ...
I use me [at] m28.io, a lot of people ask "Is that a real email?" when they see it. It's quite amusing.
True. See the 'MWGTOW' (Men Who Go Their Own Way) movement, as well as 'the red pill' community. Also search 'sexodus'.
Here is what the first McDonald's menu looked like
Thanks for the simple yet clear explanation.
Bridging the Development Gap Between UX and Security
Working in IT I often work with people who remote from India. Its all the same. You have those who are gifted and have a passion for what they do, and those who don't.

I think the most important thing to consider here is communication. Often it can be difficult to speak with foreigners in common terms.
Um, yes, that specific phrase would be applied to living in the US, not using a specific service. I'm describing a similar kind of statement with an explicit example, not saying that exact phrase also applies here.

And the problem is not that you can't do it, it's that it's a way of shutting down criticism without addressing it. It's inherently a non sequitur. It basically says, "The problems you point out are not actually problems, because you can go away."
Apple Watch Development Overview
Do you happen to have any open positions for techie non-programmer education / social sciences people? -Thanks.
Safe space is just code for coddling the first person to claim offense.

A safe space for you, if we are at odds, is an unsafe space for me. The concept of a universal "safe space" is an impossibility in that regard.