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yet...

I think Google understands its limitation and the users the Chrome OS will be more appropriate for. If you read the questions answered during the demo (check Matt Cutts blog) you will see that they repeatedly emphasized on the fact that chrome OS is built for netbook computer and with users in mind who primarily depends on web applications. That is all they are going to do for 2010 and they made no secret of that.

So if you like PC/Mac games. Chrome OS is not for you.
If you use photoshop heavily. Chrome OS is not for you.
If you use skype heavily. Chrome OS is not for you.

As a matter of fact if you depend on any applications that needs to be installed on the HD, Chrome OS probably not for you. The key word with Chrome OS is "Web Application". They are very clear about it and they are not trying to hide their intentions.

I like Google's approach in this. I think they are testing the water with netbook market (which is already quite strong at the moment) and after they set themselves up they will jump in to other market.

A good OS (even if it has a Linux kernel and other matured open source projects) takes a long time to be awesome from really good. Google knows that and I think most HN readers realizes that too.

I think google can already smell the future and they know that vast majority of users (if not all) will mostly rely on web applications for their day to day work and its already very true for some of us.
Nothing at all. I'm sure it will happen. If someone forks Chrome OS to add functionality it's very likely it will still be built on Google services. Google isn't interested in developing a full blown desktop OS themselves. If the community wants to add stuff maybe at some point in the future Google will fold some of it back into their official Chrome OS releases. Ultimately it's a product they're giving away for free so they clearly don't intend to make money directly off Chrome OS (or Android) so if you choose to get a Chrome OS variant from another source it doesn't really matter.
You'll be able to run Skype as soon as they bother to port it to NaCL.
And also I add service menu items.

try this

http://www.mediafire.com/file/nlnwiozndm4/CleanArchiver_2.4a...

I gave all modified source code to original CleanArchiver maker, but it haven't been implemented yet.
Certainly seems like there is no bad blood; Alexis still promotes Reddit things on the internet.
This isn't actually an uncommon practice for large corporations - the outside law firms charged with protecting IP and trademarks do so vigorously, and in many cases, autonomously. I don't think 'surprised' is the word, but I'd be...startled if anyone at Apple (with possible exception of Counsel) actually saw this letter before it went out.

As to SJ's reply, well, he's the CEO of a multi-billion dollar corporation. He said what was on his mind and dealt with the issue quickly and decisively - who are we to fault that? (Tangential remark: as a bunch of startup founders/partners/employees, we've created a culture amongst ourselves of "corporate friendliness" - long, well-thought out letters from the execs about every little issue and ubertransparency through blog posts - and we build it into business practices, because that's what we think we need to compete. I'd like to see us all 20 years and a few billion dollars in revenue later - who really thinks they'll be acting much different than SJ at that point?)
Does Apple examine your source code?! I thought iPhone devs kept the source to themselves.
I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the fact that our ancestors lived in water at some point. :)
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My mom likes her Skype :/

But that's because I have one brother in Spain and one traveling through Asia.

She shouts: It's free!

I like to point out that we pay R$ 160,00 for internet access. In a direct comparison, it's free, but its so called costs are embedded as an added-value with all our internet (which she mainly uses for email and recipes).

I have no idea why I typed so much of this personal tale when I was trying to say that as software developers, what matters is solving user's problems and needs, and Chrome OS, or rather a device which can only run web apps, doesn't do this. If all I wanted was a portable web browser I could buy one of the already available netbooks (wait, they do more than that) or use an iPhone (and make phone calls!)

Yeah, yeah, Chrome's browser will be so much awesome that it'll make previously impossible web apps a reality. NOT!

Besides, even if it does, as long as it relies on open standards for web development, there'll always be another device which can do whatever it does, plus more.

Like running Skype.
But does your wife want a hackable phone? Does she really care?

Does she want to have to deal with it when she downloads an app that sounds cool and it ends up installing spyware on her machine and drains her battery and drops her phonecalls?

Or would she maybe rather give up some hackable freedom for ease-of-use and a promise of a protected experience?
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The price of college will keep "correcting" itself upward as people continue to see it as necessary for non-labor employment. College isn't a prerequisite for competence. Once people come to their senses about this, it will drop back down. Until then, the price will continue to go up -- people see a decade of debt as being worth the price of perceived employment opportunities.
Fuck that -- I don't want to fiddle with the native operating system at all, otherwise I'd be running a normal Linux distribution.

What I do want is usermode Linux running as a NaCL app, with its filesystem blob synced automatically to the cloud.

I want good local NaCL ports of urxvt+openssh, tightvnc, and rdesktop.

I want interactive NaCL plugins that can replace any <textarea> with ports of Vim, Emacs, and SciTE while providing rich APIs to the DOM.

If any of this gets any traction, people will write web-interactive NaCL editors and catalogers for photos, audio, and video.
There's a big difference between a legal disclaimer that no one reads and a marketing disclaimer.

Apple unofficially accepts responsibility for the AppStore apps. They don't vouch for their quality per se, but they do vouch for the fact that they won't wreck your phone.

The same can't be said for apps on an open platform.

Hackers love open platforms but users flee them because the experience is painful.
Do you understand this first-grade child's homework?
And on the flip side, having a college degree isn't any kind of guarantee of good pay or job stability, so college students are getting screwed on both sides. In another 10-15 years people are going to start seeing just how bad a bargain this has been for their overall prosperity and the education bubble is going to burst painfully.
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Actually, my whole family uses Skype. It's a great way to show off the new baby to all the Australian relatives. I guess there's a reason why all the Hacker News posts were about Skype.

What's really missing here is the true point of Chrome OS. It's not supposed to replace anyone's desktop. It's not even really supposed to replace someones perfectly good XP netbook. It's meant to be put on really cheap hardware. Super cheap. Subsidized by Google search referrals cheap. So cheap that you fully accept that it doesn't run skype or anything else.
Apple is a private company, not a government.

The question you should ask is do Apple customers want Apple to protect them from those sites?

I work with non-hacker computer users all day long and the answer is emphatically that they do want Apple to hold their hand and protect them so they can get their work done without having to fight with their machine. They want a padded room where they don't have to constantly worry about bandaging themselves up from being accidentally impaled on some spike around the corner.

Users definitely want a controlled ecosystem that is somewhat sanitized and they are willing to take it at the expense of having the latest greatest features, and also at the expense of paying more.
I think "can't run skype" is pointless when their goal is to emphasize web apps. Google talk and Google voice can replace skype through the web.

Now if your argument is "it will not run xyz desktop application", I think you missed the point entirely of what they want to accomplish.
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IANAL, but you might want to reconsider making such a public post, due to SEC regulations disallowing public notice of equity investment opportunities of private companies.

I've seen people point to Section 5:
http://www.law.uc.edu/CCL/33Act/sec5.html
From one of the comments "Whoever wrote this damned workbook is a mountebank and a fool." That would be an ed major, maybe even an EdD.
In a lot of teaching (particularly math teaching) it seems that when a student doesn't understand the concept, the immediate conclusion is that there must be something wrong with the way it's being explained. Thus we have convoluted methods of teaching addition like this that in some way do make sense, but are mostly just another layer of confusion.

The proper way, I believe, is to just have the student learn the concept by rote. If you can't grasp conceptually why 8+3=11 then you should just memorize it.

After repeating enough times, eventually it will click and you'll understand it.

Additionally, there's no point in trying to teach the concepts of arithmetic. You'll be crippled trying to learn things like decimals, fractions, exponents or god forbid algebra or calculus if whenever you have to add you have to be "making ten" in your head. It needs to be memorized.

I believe this also holds true up to even much more complicated concepts than basic arithmetic.

For example, I find if I don't understand the proof of some theorem in one of my math classes, if I just copy it out of the book by rote, (translating the notation line by line to something I'm more comfortable with) then I sometimes will suddenly understand it.

--

Addendum: I believe Kumon has a good method for teaching math. They put a very strong focus on a rock solid understanding of basic concepts. If things haven't changed, they give kids timed problem sets of basic problems to solve (memorize) with the expectation of 100% accuracy.
It would be interesting if, over time, more and more private schools' endowments allowed them to eliminate tuition, so that in the end public schools were the more expensive choice.
There seems to be a lot of clues but they all lead nowhere.

I don't think the goal has to do with adding to ten....

e: I think I get it, but I don't know what you're supposed to do with the second grid.

e2: Oooohhh. The grids are there to help you get to your answer.
Once again, this is where government intervention into the market is causing adverse side effects. If there wasn't a student loan system, their would be no way for students to finance their education and thus colleges would have to cut costs to become affordable. When students can borrow and pay whatever exorbitant prices prices will continue to inflate as everyone bids up the price.
Additionally, we are seeing the costs of goods that are produced in America increase (education, healthcare, housing) because they do not have the returns to scale as other industries.
I'm thinking about the (No Internet Explorer) -> Internet Explorer 3.0 jump, which has been cited before as an example of what Microsoft is capable of when it suddenly throws the 'code red' flag (ie, Netscape and the internet are suddenly important). I can also think of Win98 -> Win98SE jump, and Visual Studio 6 -> Visual Studio 2005 (remember, they didn't start development on VS.NET/2003 until around 2000/2001).

Don't mistake speed of releases or popularity or innovation for the speed of development. Nintendo is a particularly poor example, I think, since I'm currently working with their tools... they are last-decade. I'm not even talking about the Wii's capabilities (which are Gamecube-era), I'm talking about their software: IDEs, compilers, etc. They struck gold with the Wii, but Microsoft went from (No Console) -> XBox360 within... like, 5 years? Nintendo's been playing this game for 25+ years, and without the unmitigated success of the Wii their console division would be bankrupt now (seriously!)

Microsoft's ability to develop (notably, but not limited to) software is unparalleled save for Google. Innovation, iteration, or popularization are all different matters.
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interesting. i use a mac. do other operating systems not show previews while browsing for files?
Certainly disagree with this gold-digging sentiment, but if she's looking for someone who still needs to file a W2, she's not aiming very high. Those with real income are rarely employees, or if they are, receive virtually no "wages" (cf. Steve Jobs' $1/year salary: http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/4-26-2005-69111.asp )
I think it's neat. You don't hear much about web applications in .NET on HN.
I think I understand it, but for a second there I'm sure I felt a cold chill go up my spine from some distant, forgotten, childhood trauma.
I love the internet, but HTML/CSS/Javascript apps that run in browser are not a panacea. Don't get me wrong - the web has changed the game, but whatever the de facto HTML standards are is somewhat of a sideshow.

I often feel as though we're cramming certain applications through the filter of HTML while we wait for native apps to catch up. Google Docs is the canonical example for me.

Here's what I like about Google Docs, other than being free:

- Docs are stored in the cloud, not tied to one machine
- Collaboration
- Rapid introduction of new features

There's no reason a "dektop app" can't do all of this. iPhone apps are a perfect example of desktop apps that have taken on many of these defining features of web apps.

At some point, the web app vs. desktop app argument becomes little more than a question of whether the browser's Chrome is wrapped around it.

tl;dr: always available broadband is the real revolution.

Worth addressing separately is the idea that MS is attempting to sabotage web apps by dragging its feet on updating Trident. I hear this a lot.

I'm an Occam's Razor kind of guy. There's myriad reasons to explain this, all of which are less cloak-and-dagger. Here's a few:

- IE has a huge userbase, which is slow to upgrade, and IE is deeply integrated with Windows. This means tons of inertia. Big companies move slowly.

- They won't make any more money by implementing HTML5, XHTML, CSS3, or whatever the currently en vogue standard is, and it would cost a ton of money.

- Their customers don't give a shit (extension of the previous point). Those who do are using another browser already.

- What web app has put a meaningful dent in Microsoft's revenue?

Good discussion, thanks.
This is what happens when we treat mental illness like physical illness.

Depression just ain't the same as a broken leg.
You can already run emacs on the iPhone. The issue is just that the keyboard sucks. But right now I can do all my regular dev tasks on the iPhone by SSHing in my webserver.

It's just kind of pointless because you get 50X the productivity by bringing your laptop with you. My 13" MacBook doesn't exactly weigh me down.
It's interesting that she thinks more women need to succeed for other women. Why can't women just succeed for themselves? Have the passion and drive to create -- for themselves? Why does it need to be for someone else?

I reckon few men think to themselves, "I need to be successful to be an inspiration to other men. To show other men that men can succeed at this."
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So, I've started making my duck (a location-based, social gaming platform). Right now, this consists of a lot of little experiments and mini-projects. The first of which I call "The Booking Desk" (http://10balloons.com/bd/index.php?y).

This app allows you to view mugshots and try to match it to the crime (listed in one of the options on the right). Right now, I'm at Duck 1.0, but hopefully I can build off the momentum and make it to Duck 1.2. For now, thanks Patio! And I hope someone has fun playing with this.
Ravenstahl is an idiot. It's like someone told him "hey, hospitals and students are really important to Pittsburgh and they don't pay very man taxes" and he decided the answer was to start taxing students.

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think this tax is legal and neither do the universities. If this goes through, Ravenstahl is going to waste a lot of money defending himself from the inevitable court battle.
I found it an interesting read. I especially liked the sentiment, "An organization that wins by exercising power starts to lose the ability to win by doing better work.", which I firmly believe.

However I don't see how PG shows that Apple is somehow winning by exercising power. Can someone clarify this? PG even? I don't hear any explanation of how their exercise of power is helping them win.
I very much agree. Unfortunately, memorization is out of vogue in the teaching community. You don't get a PhD in teaching for saying what we already do works so you have to come up with newfangled ways of teaching that, sadly, often miss the mark. They are then, of course, quickly copied by all the textbook companies.
No, just the symbol table in the binaries. You can easily do it yourself with the 'nm' command. It seems that they are using a tool that matches the 'nm' output with a list of private APIs since about a month or so, meaning that a lot of updates suddenly get rejected like this. What really annoys me as a developer though, is that they should be able to automate this check and give feedback instantly. (It's not like they will give feedback on more than one 'problem' anyway.) Instead you'll still have to sit out the 2 week waiting period.
The two are not at odds at all. Customer development isn't about not JFDI, it's about doing the right things. Also, customer development isn't something you do before product development, it's something you do alongside product development.
"Too bad"? If I had $10M+ I don't think I'd want to keep a regular job either.
I'm going to wait for someone to compile it as a bootable USB drive.
I'm not exactly Mr. Free Market, but as far as I can tell the market appears to be functioning as intended.

People place a very high value on what they perceive to be a good college education, and this value is typically how much student debt they can acquire. There are well-known ways to significantly cut the cost of your college education: going to in-state schools, and conducting the first two years of your education at a community college. Despite this many people shun in-state institutions (unless they're in a state like California which has numerous highly regarded public universities, but then again they're all hard to get into), and even more laugh the the notion of Jr. College, determining it only fit for misfits teens and continuing adult education Note: I don't agree with that assessment, but it serves to illustrate the fact that college has become so closely tied to social status, making pricey schools all the more desirable.

As for what's driving tuition upwards, it's probably the fact that the modern University has become a luxury resort. They've got an array of clinics, career councilors, psychologists, paid tutors, entire buildings designated for non-athletic student recreation, bike and jogging paths, numerous social groups, reasonably well-maintained facilities and immaculately manicured campuses.

Further driving costs upward, besides state budget shortfalls for public universities, is the fact that they are very aggressive at handing out scholarships to attract top-notch students, along with the significant amount of marketing that is conducted to get everyone else to shell out big-bucks for their undergraduate programs.

And when you look at study after study that shows you're going to earn significantly more over your lifetime if you get a college education, is it any surprise people are willing to eat the high upfront costs? Paying $50,000 to a student loan for an additional $10K+/year in earnings potential seems like a bargain to me. Granted, it's not always going to work out for the best, but hey you gotta take risks to get ahead.
just change the arrows into equal signs and it looks pretty clear, though i'm not sure if a first-grade child is more familiar with that notation. anyway this homework is part of a larger lesson in which almost identical exercises were solved ad nauseam. unclear textbooks isn't really one of the problems with education at any level. also: flagged.
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Lol, fight you for it :D
The photo uploader is the first step towards them taking over the browser completely. They will trick users into using this and start dark testing new features, over time they will replace the majority of the browser's built-in rendering engine.

Nothing like being able to execute arbitrary x86 code through the browser....
Actually, it's probably a mixture of things, not just heat. Heat is probably just one of the many important pieces.

From what I know about biology/evolution, this answer is just as likely to have a single clean reason as it is that you killed the one and only cockroach living in your apartment.
Prioritize according to what you want to get done. Trying to keep lots of options open will keep you from getting much accomplished. You must ruthlessly prune what options you maintain to what will serve your ends.
I think the grids are throwing people off.

This is what the child is supposed to do:
Grid (Draw in counters for second number, then count total of both grids) -> Fill in both bottom blanks with counted total -> Ten plus what equals bottom blank?

This is what we're doing:
Add numbers -> Why the hell is there only one grid? -> Then we post our child's homework onto the internet
> You'll be crippled trying to learn things like decimals, fractions, exponents or god forbid algebra or calculus if whenever you have to add you have to be "making ten" in your head. It needs to be memorized.

/joke: they should just start with category theory -- it will produce a fine new generation of HN readers ;-)

> Thus we have convoluted methods of teaching addition like this that in some way do make sense, but are mostly just another layer of confusion.

I think everyone conceptualizes and encodes basic arithmetic stuff in their own way. Some memorize it symbolically, some visualize, some think of number lines, graphs and so on.

Trying to "help" by providing tables, coins and all kind of "aides" just confuses some students who started to encode it differently.
it's pretty cool how these smart grids can map out the different load patterns appliances.This is at the core of the privacy debate. That information can show exactly how you are living your life within your home and a lot of other habits as well. Since most of what you do in your home requires energy. I would watch closely to see what these smart grid companies will do with that data.