skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Then you are out of touch with the realities of what is going to happen if we pass this bill.

We already pay more for labor, energy, environmental regulations compliance, and corporate tax in the USA than pretty much anywhere else. When you start making energy even more expensive, the economics are going to shift for the remaining factories and we're going to ship pretty much every one left in this country to somewhere they don't have cap and trade. That is going to cost a lot of blue collar jobs.

Then food will be significantly more expensive because of the increased energy costs - and not to mention they produce a lot of CO2. Who gets hit most by the cost of food? Those at the bottom or those at the top?

Everything about this is really really regressive. You are willing to "make sacrifices now", because frankly you don't have to make any sacrifices. "I'm willing to pay more tax". Wow, what a sacrifice. Might have to pass up on the next iPhone. Taxes take away discretionary income from the upper classes. Big deal. Regressionary laws that destroy blue collar jobs and make the cost of living higher for those at the bottom cause real, true, heartbreaking hardship. Get off Hacker News and go into an area like Detroit that has been hit by these problems and see what I mean. If you can't afford food and can't afford your rent and lost your job and are trying to raise kids, those are more than just little sacrifices. Honestly that is way worse than the alternative. What is going to happen if climate change comes? Sea levels will rise and some houses will be lost in most areas on the coast, and cities will have to have levies built. Is that better or worse than destroying the lives of millions of people today?

Not to mention, if you pass cap and trade you won't actually do a damn thing to help the climate. Every factory that moves offshore will be going somewhere they don't enforce these kind of laws. In fact a lot of countries you offshore to have incentives to reduce automation and increase job supply, so something that might take 1 guy here takes 4 there. Generally that is related to reduced automation and reduced technology. Which is also related to lower efficiency and higher emissions. The power plants in the US are a heck of a lot cleaner than the equivalent in a lot of the countries we are outsourcing to. And then you have the transportation emissions getting it here.

So you are talking about definitely hurting a lot of people today, and hoping that just maybe you might be able to make tomorrow better than it could turn out to be if these computer models are correct, or it might make tomorrow just as bad or worse if compliance isn't 100% globally - which it won't be.
>I don't really see his eligibility.
Remember a certain US president getting it for writing speeches???
I'd like to point out that "Nature" possibly refers to the high impact scientific journal. If this is the case, then "trick" can be understood as roughly equal to "hack" (clever manipulation) in programmer terms. This Mike person used, and documented, his hack in a peer reviewed publication and someone else found it useful. How is this damning? Please don't assume experts in other fields are dumb. They probably arn't.
I think you've made the mistake of only spending time with the intelligent skeptics. I regretfully inform you they are far from the majority.
Agreed; if you're truly horrible at typing, then you're probably not a good programmer. I did some pair programming with several of my interview candidates and here's what I saw.

(1) There's something important you can tell about a person's relationship to computers just by watching them type. The terrible typists were also the worst programmers. How can I take you seriously if you aren't comfortable at the keyboard? I can't believe that somebody who loves to code hasn't spent enough hours at a computer to figure out how where all the keys are, even if they aren't touch typists. Several observations: (a) staring down at the keyboard instead of having eyes on screen results in typos missed until several characters later, requiring extra navigation time, or simply missed until the compiler yells at you, if you've even got a compiler to save you; (b) programming makes use of a lot of symbolic characters, so people who can't even find alphabetic characters on the keyboard are even worse writing code. The most frustrating typist I encountered would occasionally hold down enter instead of shift for several seconds while hunting for '(', only to look up several seconds later and notice they had inserted a huge amount of blank space in the file, followed by a '9'. Did not hire.

(2) Once above a certain minimal threshold of typing competence, there didn't seem to be much correlation between typing skill and programming skill. The person we ended up hiring was also (gently) asked to take an online typing course. Their speed quickly increased from a two-finger 30 wpm to full touch-typing 60 wpm. A noticeable increase in productivity was also observable just by watching them type, especially as typo corrections happened quickly with eyes focused on the insertion point and not on the keyboard. Once you have in mind the code you want to write, then your fingers and text editor can either get out of the way or be a limiting factor.

From a cognitive standpoint: if you're a great programmer but a horrible typist, then how can you not want to increase the data transfer bandwidth between your mind and the editor?
The quotes used as examples in this article really don't do justice to the damage that will be done by this leak. If the documents turn out to be authentic, many of the participants will be spending years to come defending themselves from academic disciplinary committees and criminal prosecutions. Beyond the superficial 'blowing off steam', there's conspiracy to destroy evidence in advance of FOIA requests, tax evasion, and overtly political data manipulation.

It's ugly. It seems likely this will derail Copenhagen, and probably destroy the political momentum for Climate Change legislation for years to come.

The sad part is that this really isn't an outcome desired by anyone who actually cares about climate change as a scientific issue. This is a political win for Big Oil, rather than resolution of the issues. Rather than refocusing the issue on the science (as desired by the true skeptics) the issue becomes politicized even further. A different team takes the lead, but the science gets left even further behind.
You're right--Gore started the job of devaluing the prizes, now we just have to give one to Stallman and nobody will ever care about the Nobel Prize again.
Ask HN: Who's hiring (take 3)?
We've had a couple of popular hiring threads in the past so it'd be great to have some updates.

"Are you hiring? Does your company (or your friend's) have openings? Let HN know!!! Let's get some good people good jobs."

Internships and contracting are also welcome. Previously:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=375410 [Ask HN: Who's Hiring?]

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=759452 [Ask HN: Who's Hiring? (take 2)]

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=759756 [Ask HN: Who's Hiring... Students?]
This confuses me. FOI in the UK only applies to government agencies. How can a scientific body be required to release information?
SmallRuby: Ruby for Smalltalk/X virtual machine.
It depends on how you solve problems, and whether there are unknowns in the equation.

For me, sitting and thinking of how to solve a typical coding problem for 10 minutes, rather than just coding it, is usually just 10 minutes lost. The problem reveals itself more as you code and so does the solution.

When I am in this zone of solving coding problems, I get very frustrated because I can't type as fast as I can think. My throughput is limited by my typing speed.

Some problems, especially when there are unknowns, require quite a bit of reflection. At those points, it's time to take a stroll and think.
The idea is similar to Norman Borlaug's Nobel, although I'd argue that the case for Torvalds isn't nearly as strong, or, at least, far more diffuse.

On the other hand, it isn't hard to think of worse recipients.
I am not an Obama fan (at all) but I can follow their logic. He does hold promise in the specific area of promoting peace. However, I certainly don't think he did the most in this area over the last year.

That's one reason why I think the Nobel prize is a perversion. The set of eligible people is not one or two people. There are a lot of people who do great things and in the end, the selection is fairly arbitrary. Honoring someone for doing someone honorable is good; Conferring enormous authority to one person by granting them a prize diminishes the authority of other great people.

Take Krugman. He got a Nobel for a very very specific area of economics. He now writes on an area that was not his specific focus nor has he proven himself particularly insightful. However, if he gets in an argument with other respected economists, the general perception is, "who has the Nobel?"
Is there a plausible case that we cannot afford to wait?

If it isn't caused by humans it's unlikely to be fixable by humans.
I think you might have confused me with someone else. I'm not trying to pass a bill.

I'm expressing concern about my own future, and the future of others in the possible case the climate change is catastrophic.

The problems of offshoring jobs could be solved by Obama at Copenhagen if he gets China to sign up to a cap on its omissions.
What if Apple were to start assigning a reliability or confidence score to the app/developer and amending the approval process to take this score into effect?

New apps/developers need to go through the standard application approval process as it is now. As applications are approved/rejected, their score changes based on the results of the testing.

As developers release updates to a given app, the approval process of that app is adjusted based on the confidence score. e.g., an app with a high confidence score would just automatically get approved (or maybe just a quick static analysis) whereas one with a medium score might just get a quick cursory testing.

Additionally, to keep people from trying to game the system they could add in some random full testing of apps regardless of their confidence score.
I vaguely remembered some result about the ideal lecture length, and some quick Googling produced:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7665025

"CONCLUSION: This study shows that a 20-minute lecture was equal to the classic 50-minute lecture in terms of information retained by residents. If future studies confirm this study's findings, medical educators will need to reevaluate the length of lectures to improve efficiency of teaching."

So even more reason to limit the length of time given to people to talk.
Ask HN: Do you power off your laptop?)
I know this is a stupid thing to ask here on the Hacker News. Sorry for wasting your time. I was wondering, how many people don't power off their laptops for like a month, a week? I didn't do it for about two weeks now and I feel I have to do something about this habit:) What about you?
"benevolent dictator"?
Here's a torrent with no login:

http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/5172101/Chrome_OS_Image_for...
Guessing, but it's quite possible they did work in the scope of government funding, exposing it to this kind of access.
Is it intentional that the link is to a comment below the article?
This has convinced me I need to spend more time on Scala. Well done.
University of Rochester dethrones MIT in ACM competition
Disgusting. If anything, Richard Stallman should be nominated for it as he has done far more and the Free Software movement is much more in line with the intent of the Nobel Peace Prize.
How to try out Chrome OS for yourself:

1. Install Ubuntu

2. Build Chromium and run it full-screen

3. Use various Google apps (mail, docs, calendar) for everything

4. Ignore that immensely powerful operating system underneath your browser in favor of a hacked-together glorified document viewer.
Brilliant! Implementing now.
Without RMS there might not be a GPL nor Linux licensed under the GPL. There would probably be no open source movement either because it relies on free software.

So you can stop with the insults now.
BBC News: Hackers target leading climate research unit
I like that little 3d tag cloud he has on the side, even if it flash-based. http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-cumulus/
Losing bad customers, partners – it’s worth it
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To be fair, the main reason Obama got the prize was for the dramatic change in diplomatic relations between the US and, well, everyone else. The previous eight years basically consisted of a repeating monologue of "It's our way or the highway", whereas now the US is actually engaging in dialogue.

That said, I completely agree it was premature and that he shouldn't have gotten it before having actually achieved something more than making pretty speeches.
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I think most honest people found themselves in the situation as you.

I'm starting to think it's a good thing that American society by and large is ignorant of science issues.

Any time you incentivize scientific research with fame and fortune in popular society, you end up with crap like this.

Let's keep popular acclaim to things which don't matter, such as sports.
Exactly, and not one of the other devices you've mentioned have had nearly the success that Apple has had. They've made it easy and SAFE. I have very few apps on my Blackberry, mostly because I'm concerned that I have no idea where they come from.

On my desktop computer I have un-approved apps, but I have virus scanner, firewall, and registry monitor so I am defended against attackers. On the Blackberry, I've got nothing like that, but I have sensitive emails, so no, I don't install as many apps on the Blackberry as I would on the iPhone.
The Industry Misinterpretations podcast http://bit.ly/62td5p was actually quite good and gives a nice overview. They have a long way to go, but it looks like another good project.
> Gore started the job of devaluing the prizes

cough cough Henry Kissinger.
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You touch on a point that swings my view of the political response towards the "do something" end of the spectrum. Climate change, true or false, is tightly tied to pollution. By taking action against climate change (in the traditional ways, less coal, more wind & solar, less waste), we also take a big step towards reducing pollution, and nobody is a pollution denier....
1) Should we do this as a periodic feature (say every quarter)?

2) I repeat the links below to make them clickable. I also noted the time since the "Who's hiring" postings were made.

360 days ago:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=375410 [Ask HN: Who's Hiring?]

99 days ago:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=759452 [Ask HN: Who's Hiring? (take 2)]

99 days ago:
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=759756 [Ask HN: Who's Hiring... Students?]
Google and Facebook are on a hiring spree. At least their recruiters are very active.
Typing is an asset for those who use a command line interface as well. It's more than just a simple reduction of latency. If you are a slow typist, it's likely that your horizon of possibilities for leveraging the power of quick and easy shell commands is so small that you'd be better off using a mouse and an IDE.

If you've ever witnessed an extremely fast command line whiz in action, you realize just how effective of a weapon their typing speed is. When the latency between knowing what you want to do and getting it done disappears, the depth at which you search a tree of possible commands and experiments increases.

In coding there are situations in which typing fast lets you experiment faster. For example, when you're trying to narrow down a bug to a few different possibilities, if you can type fast then you can quickly open up a new window and code up a little test application that isolates the problem. The thinking/typing ratio of these kinds of debugging experiments is low, and it has been my experience that most people are loathe to go and actually code up an entirely different program to do a quick test, simply because they don't want to do the typing.

In a nutshell, being able to type fast can remove mental barriers and change your approach to programming. Just look at how your approach to using a computer or browsing the Web changes when latency is reduced. Just because your CPU is idle 97% of the time doesn't mean that CPU speed is not important. Just because you spend more time reading a web page than loading it doesn't mean that latency isn't important.
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What about the economics prize (I know, not a real nobel prize) going to members of the free/open source software community. Their works have really shown that great things can be built by a community of people, with limited central leadership and without a clear profit motive.
In this case I'd interpret "trick" to be more like a skateboard trick, i.e. a non-obvious, but probably skillful manipulation of the data. If Tony Hawk pulls off something cool, nobody thinks he's trying to pull a fast one on his spectators or sponsors. I'd want to look at the Nature paper in question to see whether that interpretation is correct, though.
Companies that seem to be 'slacking' probably just haven't achieved product-market fit yet. If a company has achieved this, and is growing like a weed, I doubt the employees will be 'coasting'. Greed will take care of that.

So, I'd be willing to bet that the referenced companies are still trying to figure out what they're really going to build. Don't blame the employees, this is the job of management.

I could be wrong of course. Are there companies that are growing rapidly that have problems motivating employees?
Try approaching the quote without trying to prove any pre-conceived notions. Similarly, I might say "I used John's useful hack in the logging module to hide errors (from the user)".
We are hiring:

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Sticker Giant http://www.stickergiant.com/blog/work-at-stickergiant/ out of Boulder, CO. Great company.
Tanenbaum's OS book is superb. One of the few undergrad CS books I've kept (most of the rest were on the math side of things; while I think that's cool, it's not so much for me to keep...)
I would imagine it makes more sense for them to dangle out because it gives the body more ability to adjust the temperature as needed. If your body is too hot then they dangle low, if it's too cold outside then they huddle up close. If they were inside the body then this temp control wouldn't be available!
The owner claims he offered to comp their meal, but then has them arrested for not paying the gratuity? Hmm, I smell a fink.
To be fair these are mostly proof-of-concept viruses. The typical WinMo user is not at risk.
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++ to brewing your own beer. Saw the simplegeo guys doing this, surprised more startups don't do it. Super fun.
What Twitter's New Geolocation Makes Possible
We have close to two dozen (!) openings for software engineers in Santa Barbara, San Francisco, and Hoboken, NJ:

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Ask HN: What do you think of our redesigned website?
I'm not familiar with their status under UK law, but there definitely have been recent FOI requests that went through regarding data and files pertaining to the IPCC report. Perhaps because report was government funded, perhaps because the the University hosting the data is government funded? The leaked emails show the back chatter regarding preparation for fulfilling the requests.

In any case, here's one of the emails in question:

From: Phil Jones
To: “Michael E. Mann”
Subject: IPCC & FOI
Date: Thu May 29 11:04:11 2008

Mike,

Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith
re AR4? Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment
– minor family crisis.
Can you also email Gene and get him to do the same? I
don’t have his new email address. We will be getting
Caspar to do likewise.
I see that CA claim they discovered the 1945 problem in
the Nature paper!!
Cheers
Phil

Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) 1603 592090
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) 1603 507784
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@uea.ac.uk
NR4 7TJ
UK

I haven't read the original, only the out of context copy here: http://rankexploits.com/musings/2009/real-files-or-fake

The addressee is Michael Mann, the lead author of the IPCC chapter on Climate Change. Note that even the subject line makes reference to FOI.
Heavily agreed on your first point. I don't think typing speed so much causes productivity - more like typing speed is an indicator of experience and interest in the subject matter.

Odds are, if you are actually interested in programming, you've spent an ungodly number of hours at some point in your life in front of a machine. You spend enough time in front of a keyboard and you will get really fast at typing.

And odds are, if you've never spent enough time in front of a machine to get fast at it, you haven't really had much coding experience.
"Linux helped sequence the human genome, helps protect the world computer infrastructure from viral attack, and is now the pathway for millions to learn computer programming and participate in new international efforts"

Using this logic, Bill Gates should also be up for the award (and considering his philanthropy, maybe he should).

There is a paradigm problem here. One does not award the builder of Mother Teresa's orphanage a peace prize (even if it is quite nice). The award goes to Mother Teresa.
Running an OS in a VM per se is unlikely to. But if the host system has poor package management and the virtualization software proves problematic (some of them install files all over the place, including kernel extensions), restoring the host system to its previous state can be difficult. It's not an unreasonable concern.
"neutrality" is a charged word. To claim neutrality you would have to agree that there are legitimate claims on both sides of a controversy. I wouldn't blame RC for taking a stance if they believe their point of view to be correct. Did they ever claim to be 'neutral'?

[edit: to be clear, I never visited RC before, I don't know how they cover or are supposed to cover the debate over climate change]
I think it would only effect productivity if one is horrendously slow at typing. There are too many other items that fall under the umbrella of productivity that being an average "hunt and pecker" won't do one much harm.
I don't know what it looked like before, but this looks good!