skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I hope it's a trend other companies will be prepared to follow. Value the work methodology - not just the end product.

In this case, the initial end product may not be needed by google, as it will most likely require a significant restructure to fit in with Wave, but this shows that they appreciate the original idea to the point where they are prepared to let it stand on it's own merit.

The greatest gain to google (as with most of their acquisitions) is the talent. Its a new form of hiring - you get to see the quality and end results of the team, taking much of the guesswork out of the hiring process.

So I wish the guys from AppJet all the best, thanks for your work so far, may you go on to do great things from your new positions! And thanks for etherpad too!
I am not a fan of conspiracy theories.
You'll never block them all, so unless there is a really good reason (such as your lawyer tells you to, like Pandora) - don't. Proxy server does not equal evil.

If you don't care about blocking all proxies, just the ones most people would use, you could do two things:

- Google "proxy list". See what comes up. Now write a script that blocks these IPs automatically.

- Look for headers such as "X-Forwarded-For" in your requests. The problem with this is that you will be blocking legitimate proxies that advertise their presence. This is not a good idea. Many people (for example, on corporate networks) rely on a proxy to get their web access.

Again, you will never block all proxies, out-of-country logins, or whatever else you are trying to defeat. Tor and SSH tunnels immediately come to mind as the first things to try to defeat your proxy filter. I'm sure there are lots more.
So "small" has to include sockets.
Ah, I see what you meant: "No one starts learning to program in C anymore," correct? I thought you meant, "no one starts out their career in C." In that case, yes, I started programming in BASIC when I was very young, then several other languages, and then C during college.
This is just plain hard for me to gauge, but thanks for your reply as well.

I know what you mean by saying that attempts at humor are not welcome here. I'll see a comment that I think is pretty witty, but it has maybe 0, or less, points. I click the user, and it turns out they're respectable.

I've gotten a couple pretty well received comments in, and a few failures. So the whole point of my original comment was to eliminate an easy platform for humor.

I mean, it is pretty easy to make fun of a bad submission and I've seen a few respectable users do it. So I did it myself a couple times and had fun. But I wasn't sure if that was okay -- in the grander scheme of the community, detrimental -- which is why I asked here if it was a big deal.
I did a correction upvote since it was an honest question.

As far as humor goes, I'm going to restate something I've said frequently around here: you're not as funny as you think you are. When a few dozen people who think they're funny try to be funny, you have a lot of noise.
The idea that there's no cognitive differences just seems incredibly unlikely.

As long as the difference between individuals in a single population is greater than the mean difference between populations themselves, I don't see much relevance.

Sure, Negroid races as a group don't have the IQ of Caucasians. But Caucasians who attach any importance to that had better look over their shoulder at the Asians, who in turn beat them on the same tests. The Asians don't want to get too smug in a room full of Ashkenazi Jews. Meanwhile, there are plenty of individual Negroids and whitey-birds who outperform plenty of individual Asians and Ashkenazis.

If any lessons have emerged so far from the study of human genetics, it's that your genes are not your destiny. In any just society, an individual's success will always consist of 90% perspiration, 8% inspiration, and 2% DNA.
The value of that ounce would just shoot up as the economy grew more productive.

Which is a coy way of saying "there would be massive, uncontrollable price swings".

With a gold standard and modern economies you don't get wild inflation, but you do get wild deflation, with effects just as bad (since inflation and deflation are isomorphic to each other).
I don't think an upvote does this enough justice.

At the end of the day, we're all just trying to be better. Shaking strawmen at progress just because it's not perfect (you'll note that some of the Less Wrong/Overcoming Bias arguments leave small disclaimers of assumptions of infinite computing power; not all, but some) is just as foolish as refusing to see when the ground moves beneath your feet.
There are threat models which are useful, and there are threat models which lead you to wear a tinfoil hat. Which type of model are you basing your question on?
Yes, the Wave interface. The Wave interface acts as a client of the Wave protocol and servers they have running internally, hence his use of the word "client".
the code that produces and runs the web page that I see when I go to wave.google.com
not the servers, the code that produces the web app I see at wave.google.com
Thanks! We basically open-source everything we do; the problem is committing the resources to support stuff and polish it into a usable product, which unfortunately doesn't always happen.

The Java-based implementation can be found here: https://svn.declarativity.com/lincoln/java/trunk/ . The old C++ implementation (P2) is https://svn.declarativity.com/p2/trunk/ .

We haven't been polishing the JOL/BoomFS work, because we're currently working on a brand-new language ("Bloom") that should be much more programmer-friendly; as part of that, I'm writing an efficient C-based dataflow engine. If you have any more questions, feel free to drop me an email.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2B$HOME&aq=f&#... still doesn't work...
I'm suspicious. It has a salary profile for both a "hitman" http://www.indeed.com/salary?q1=hitman&l1=San+Francisco%... and "God" http://www.indeed.com/salary?q1=God+&l1=San+Francisco%2C....
They aren't subject to any competition that would counteract the incentive you mentioned?
Actually, we intend to opensource the UI as well. So server + federation + syncronization + client ui.
if they "got it" they wouldn't have done it in the first place. It's just damage control for them,

Sure the fact that they actually try to damage control gives them lots of points, but let's not kid ourselves, without the outrage, nothing would have happened.
The relationship between significance level and sample size is reliant on a complex set of assumptions to say the least, and, when everything is stripped away, is perhaps best seen as a way of discovering just how difficult it will be to deblur the world. What power prescription we need.

Often (always?) these constraints are all so very much more complex than Gaussian power analysis states. You do it as a way of sketching the depth of a problem I think, not much more.

The linked paper is a pretty clear introduction of the high level problems. I think it's perhaps a little more grim than necessary, but then again that might just be my own bias.
Yeah, so the article is very pro-introvert. I just wanted to point out that I don't think it's the case that introverts are better at leadership than extroverts. The article isn't claiming this, but I have a feeling that the HN audience might up-vote this because that's how they interpret it. I was just trying to give a friendly reminder that there are different qualities that make people good leaders. Both of them can excel.

But the article still serves its purpose. In the business world, there's a tendency to assume you must be extroverted to be a great leader. There's an assumption that introverts should be doing other things like engineering, that introverts don't have the "people skills" necessary to be great leaders. The article makes a good case that this just isn't so.
Other companies would "damage control" by re-enabling new pad creation until their preferred new version came out.

Google promises to open-source the code.

I call this a win for nonevil. Any sufficiently advanced damage control is indistinguishable from ethics.
What Is Genius?
Hamilton, I'd like to email you about your work at Stanford if you don't mind. Could you drop me a line?
My husband works for a well-known game developer with offices in Quebec. Thanks to the subsidies, Montreal is the only city in the world where a programmer costs less to hire than in Shanghai. As a result, they have a virtual hiring freeze anywhere except Montreal, where they can hire as many developers as they like.

The main drawback is that the language laws in Quebec essentially require managers to be bilingual, which makes recruitment more difficult. (Employees in Quebec have the right to be managed in French, if they choose)
'The central problem is that people don't understand what "heritable" or "genetic" really means.'

Apparently so. Heritability does not mean genetic causation. Language is extremely heritable (that is, children almost always speak the same language as their parents), and not because there's a long just-so chain of genetic and hormone events that ends in an innate facility for Cantonese.
I doubt Palm will disappear as a brand, but I'm waiting for the acquisition. It seems inevitable at this point, but I wonder if potential suitors are just waiting to see how low Palm will go.
Google's "don't be evil" motto is a weak one for several reasons. Negative mottos are inherently weak because they provide a lot of leeway in definition, it's always possible to fuzz the line on what's evil and define evil to be a smaller and smaller zone of behavior. In the strictest terms Google has already committed a fair number of evil acts (e.g. cooperating with Chinese persecution). Also, a double negative (essentially don't be not good) is fundamentally weaker than a positive statement (e.g. "do only good"). More so, over time a statement such as "don't be evil" quickly morphs into "be much less evil than the competition" which then slowly morphs over time into "be just a little bit less evil than the competition". Reading the comments here defending google's actions re: etherpad it's hard to argue that google is at any stage other than the last "be a little less evil than the competition" stage.

And at that point your precious "don't be evil" guidance is worthless because at best you are so inconsequentially less evil than the run of the mill heartless corporation that you really haven't decreased the amount of evil being done in the world.
shutdown(2) lets you report EOF while still reading from a socket, so you can cleanly receive your peer's messages and EOF. Pipes only support close(2), so you can't report EOF without forcing your peer to handle SIGPIPE/EPIPE as well as ignoring anything else they want to send. And if your peer is writing and doesn't expect reads to work also (POSIX doesn't call for it), your own writes are just going to block and never be read.
Possibly a lame theory, but after they shut it down, clone talk was spreading pretty heavily. By open-sourcing, did they just take away the biggest player AND stop the competition in one swoop?
Idea to Business in 30min [video]
I'd say even more difference comes from culture. Asians are a huge population, but those who have the greatest success are those with a strong culture for education (Japan, China, South Korea). The same, there are black people on several continents, and the ones who are the easiest to criticize are those who either have a lack of modern culture (countries which didn't completely recover from colonialism) of made a counter-culture which pointedly rejects everything white, including the good parts (education, work ethics etc).

Given these huge differences, a few points of IQ really don't seem to mean anything.
Could you try one of our suggested solutions, and as long as it doesn't mess the whole site up, keep it? And if it doesn't solve our original issue, try another one of the suggested solutions, and as long as it doesn't screw things up keep it?

I mean iterate, so that HN can evolve right?

I agree that public sentiment should not always be factored in, as we will naturally oppose change. So if you test a radically new system you'll get opposition. But as long as the actual results aren't negative, I think it's at least progress.
How are they awarding you $2000 anonymously? Are they seriously handing out stacks of cash?
Would mixing two very different gene pools necessarily take the maximum of positive traits from each parent? Couldn't it possibly take the average or even minimum?

Natural selection operates only by influencing who mates- it does not impact the way in which genes are spliced. That is left to the molecular structure of the genes themselves I believe.
I reported an issue to them via e-mail on saturday. Got a response on sunday, I added some details, and it was fixed a few hours after their first response.

they're still small, they still listen to feedback.
The cops partner with a bank. You get a number to take to the bank, the bank gives you the cash, no names exchanged.
He wrote several paragraphs of wisdom, and you're here to correct his spelling. Nice. Could you reallt nopt derive his meaning despite his poor spelling?
I'm pretty sure they use Yahoo BOSS, plus some in-house stuff that merges info from trusted sites like Wikipedia. Yahoo's results are pretty good, though I hope that BOSS-based sites survive whatever the fallout of the Yahoo-MS search deal ends up being.

Personally I've found that the extra features on top of Yahoo's results that DDG gives aren't usually very useful, but it's nice and fast with a simple, usable interface. For the few weeks I had it as my Firefox search box default, the only thing I felt was missing was how Google includes results from Google News and Image Search right on your search results page.

Also, the founder of DDG posts here on HN, which is one reason why you'll hear about it around here more often than other places.

Curious, what do you think the plethora of other alternatives are? I've been pretty unimpressed by the small search engines trying to use their own indexes (Cuill) and even less impressed by the "human-powered" engines (Mahalo). I haven't seen anyone else really come close to Google, Yahoo, Bing, and Ask.
No one wants a monoculture.

I see a lot of people saying this, but judging by peoples' actions I'm not sure it's true. If I had to guess I'd say that maybe 1/4 (of hackers, a far smaller slice of the general public) of folks really do value a truly vigorous open exchange of ideas and welcome reasoned and thoughtful criticism, with the remaining 3/4 of folks implicitly willing to live within the cozy confines of an ideological fishbowl.
Vint Cerf: Connecting with an Internet pioneer, 40 Years Later
It was Obama and Dick Cheney.
They can't be too greedy, or they'll lose business to competitors. They can't be too selfless, or they won't have the resources to do incredible things.

Hypothesis: Price, efficiency, benefits to the consumer all oscillate over the years, never to converge, as competition naturally enter and exit the field.
Well, the logo alone would be a pretty stupid reason to abandon Google. But, like I said, it was just the last straw.

And if I am going to have a last straw, the thing that removes that piece of straw must be eccentric. Yet, vaguely resemble truth. The point is to have prepared a retort to "why don't you use Google search?" Because people will ask with the intent to condescend.

I find myself smug about the robotic eye logo because I think it is ironic. It is as if a totalitarian government plastered posters onto drab brick walls. The posters say: "big brother respects your privacy." And on the poster, above those words, is a picture of a robotic eyeball staring at the citizens who stopped to read.

I'd much rather have a fun reason to change loyalties, so I don't have to go into the many details.

It'll keep me from receiving the same flak as when I switched to Linux.
Long arm of US officials could put Britons in prison
Thanks! Great reply.
I use GitHub for open source, personal server for other. I tried Codebase once but wasn't too pleased, there seemed to be a bit of git-trouble. After creating a repository, it took close to a hour and a half for the first commit to show up. Afterwards, every push seemed to take an incredibly long time to show up.

Also, the UI is kinda funky imo.

Edit: To clarify, the commits were in the git repo, they just weren't showing up in the web interface.
Interesting article. The author would benefit from reading (if they haven't already) some of Jung's (C.G. Jung) work on the collective unconcious and the archetypes that our psyches interact with. Artists do nothing more but tap into collective archetypes, symbols, and motifs - shaping them, clothing them, and casting them in the light of that craftsman's psyche. This is why people find such work captivating, both intellectually and emotionally.

Old mythos were no different but simply a facade over the fundamental (archetypal) drama that plays out within our psyche. The emotional power of Romeo and Juliet or Tristan and Isolde are other good examples too.

Genius is, to me, the ability to generate from one's own unique psychic (mental) configuration a model of their interpretation of a pattern, system, archetype, or motif true to the valuing meme their mind operates within at that time. Many see it as "exceptional" (the dictionary even uses it that way), something measured by the precepts of what is considered average; I prefer the concept of true self-expression as guided and judged by true self-knowledge. Genius is then innate and accessible to anyone willing to cultivate a defining personal purpose, skills, and talents; to introspect upon the questions of "who are you", "what do you want", and "why are you here".

I know this comment is a bit of a tangent for Hacker News as it has delved into psychology and a bit of philosophy. I find it relevant though, even if tangentially, because we programmers (esp. hackers) have a knack for holistic and systemic thinking. The two qualities that comprise genius.

EDIT: In my first paragraph, I don't mean to down-play the artist's creative ability, toil, and skill that goes into creating a piece of work.
As a musician (one who, admittedly, wound up owing money when the bar tab was subtracted from the gate) I can't think of a better place to put them. They actually live on a line just south of the Sinatra-Beatles meridian. If you look just southwest of Sinatra, you'll see that Cab Calloway lives on the true line, with Count Basie just to the left. This would be the "dirty", less polished, and less, well, white version of the Sinatra-Beatles line (which would probably extend westward to Paul Whiteman if he appeared on the map at all).

No, the one that puzzles me is Sarah Brightman. I can understand them trying to keep her away from the cool kids, but she's got to be feeling like she got off the bus in the wrong neighborhood.

The style of music the Blues Brothers played, the Stax sound, cuts the continuum running from jazz-influenced big band risqué pop to straight-ahead risqué rock and roll. The rhythm section is from the rock world -- electric bass, guitar and piano, with foursquare beat-keeping drumming (as opposed to the sort of thing that, say, a Buddy Rich would do) -- the vocal performances are clearly in the Calloway-Prima-Charles lineage, and the horns are pure big band pop.
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When posting a "Ask HN:", phrase your question clearly.
If by "hiring an intern" you mean you work for us for no money, we're hiring this summer :)

You have to move to Truckee, CA too. You can sleep in our spare room and eat our food if you like.
Well, I just read this post and went off to create iMotable :)
Took me about 30 min.

http://socialdecks.com/iMotable/
Bill Gates is "supposedly" an extrovert.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENTJ

where the e is for extraversion.
As far as I know, the only place PL/X is still used is inside z/OS, though I could be wrong.
Reminds me of this TED talk by Elizabeth Gilbert:

http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html
Glossy Tooth Makes Google App Engine Like S3
I'm in the same boat as OP. Looking to spend 3 months in the bay area working with some bright young minds. We should start an official "taking interns for Summer 2010" list, but until then; please feel free to email me at dzlobinsky@gmail.com !
Yelp will start recruiting interns in January. Last summer, our interns made significant contributions to the Palm Pre app and the Monocle augmented reality feature in the iPhone app -- definitely not busy work. Check yelp.com/jobs for more deets.
Like it or not, Javascript is one of the most important languages around. It's also the language that people feel they can code without knowing -- hence all the shoddy JS out there. While it's not perfect, JS frameworks help, and I think someone should be looked down upon for wanting to know which one is the best use of their time.
Facebook search returns web results, too. Not that the results are particularly relevant, but after Google it's probably the second-most viewed search box on the web.

And you'll notice at the bottom it says "Powered by Bing."
We will be hiring in Beijing, and offering a stipend to cover airfare and cost of living (http://languagesystems.net). Strong preference for candidates with some degree of fluency in mandarin or cantonese, interest in all-things-mobile and a desire to stay in China post-graduation. Inquiries by email are welcome.
I don't mean to hijack the thread but I will be in Israel this upcoming summer and I would love to intern. If anyone is connected to a startup in Israel, please let me know.
The only non-fanboy argument in the article is Japanese carriers' hunger for control. This is absolutely true, and might be the reason Android gets some traction in Japan. But consider the implications of this for the user -- why is it that you think that Android is a "good" OS, something that you'd want on your own phone? "It's open and I can do whatever I want with it"? Well, not after the Japanese carriers have their way with it.
tracert 8.8.8.8

17 hops, 132 ms

tracert 4.2.2.4

12 hops, 239 ms

tracert 208.67.222.222

11 hops, 186 ms

I'm going with 8.8.8.8
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Don't forget Basic, visual or not ;)
Matlab is also very popular in engineering.

Personally, I started with toy programs in QBasic that an uncle taught me, then playing around on the TI-80, then Matlab when I entered uni (first 'real' programming).
I removed the location and replaced COBOL with Ada - $133K national average apparently.

All of the jobs require secret security clearance too. Sounds more interesting than a webapp.
The "orthogonal core" is not only of interest to the language implementer, it is what determines the suitability of the language for the particular task. To use your analogy of harmonic analysis, a complete basis is not only useful as a method of representation, but also a method by which to ease the process of calculation.

Regardless, I think the post is postulating that a large, overcomplete "basis" is the new beauty de jour.
Build your own Google http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=243665
gimana sih aktivitasnya hacker ??
I beg to differ. I want to completely understand the tools I use. Exploring a new language may be a fun process, but having an easy understanding of the complete language specification allows you to adequately frame a problem in the context of that language.

Having said that, I do use big tools in my day job.
Are you saying downmodding comments is not required?
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You know, shutting down creating new documents for two whole days (for free users, not paying ones) has to be pretty low on the evil scale, when the next announcement is that they're going to open-source it. C'mon.