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If there are volunteers doing this work (unpaid ?) - what are you using this money for ?

Just for infrastructure ?
If not, how do you get paid ? And how many percent of the developers get paid ? Who makes the decision who gets paid and who doesn't get paid ?

I am just interested how something like this is done in an open source project. I've seen some other projects (not programming related) which got really complicated and ruined, because they got money and started "distributing" wealth which left some of the people disgruntled (basically most of the bands who got successful have stories like that).
> Here's a mirror of the original version of this blog post.
They rescinded it. No reason to make them dwell in misery forever.

> Elementry's Dev team doesn't pay for Ubuntu,

So?

> they don't pay for the Kernel or GNU Tools,

And? People get paid to work on both. Some people do it pro bono. They don't expect to be paid.

> 'cheating the system' when they download a prebuilt iso of a collection of free software for free.

Totally not true. There is a lot of refinement in the UX. If it's so easy, why is the distribution so special? Why don't you just whip up a bash script and send them out of business?

Even if they just combined Open Source works, they have every right to flip the combination (which takes time and skill) at a value. If you package something for me that saves my 10 developers a day each of config time - I just saved thousands of dollars.
Is AOL still an Internet access provider?
I disagree that the flexing is an issue. According to several computer techs the flexing is good, since it means the material is less likely to crack under stress.

I certainly feel the Thinkpads of yore had a more visually attractive material, but I've recently bought a Thinkpad x250 and frankly the quality is as good as always. Better, in fact, than the x240, in which several very bad decisions were taken.
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This hits so close to home ( my username ),

Bangladesh has a serious problem with religious tolerance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Bangladesh_anti-Hindu_viol...

Bangladesh has a population of about 20 million hindus who even if the number seems huge, are a minority given that the country has a huge population.

I have been extremely fortunate to have had my dad make the sensible choice of abandoning his homeland for a job in Dubai which even if is not the best he could be doing. Is way better than being scared of your life.

Most of my rest of family moved illegally to India and managed to get an Indian passport and are living peaceful lives.

However it saddens me to see the situation in Bangladesh, since I have been there countless time and a lot of my cousins still live there. I also hold an bangladeshi passport.

I really would want to do a tech job in bangladesh if given the opportunity. I am currently finishing in undergrad in an top British University and the situation here is so much nicer.

One my goals is to one day open a research lab / company in bangladesh involving robotics.

Bangladesh suffers from a lot of political corruption / cultural disintegration / poverty / natural disasters / education / . . .

My dad sometimes worries about my online activities lol
Since I am myself an atheist but I make sure to stay anonymous.

My family due to so many problems in the past has adopted a closed mouth policy since we have lived all our lives in muslim majority countries. The only safe haven seems to be India.

In any case these types of news is much more common if you keep in touch but I am surprised to see this becoming news here.
Depending on which product is being bought with these $3/month could be Amazon's net profit on what gets bought with these things in a month.
If the roads feels less safer, there are less accidents. This happens when you reduce the lanes width as well. Or if you setup a fake roadwork
As a Dutch person I was under the impression that the Dutch society is less hierarchical than the American society. Perhaps somebody who has worked in both countries can shed some light on it?

I don't think you can compare the US to Europe as a whole either, the workplace dynamic in southern Italy is completely different than in Norway.
More like 1920x1200 :)
The article is estimating the price of one of these things as being $5 - I imagine that at least for an initial trial Amazon have decided they can make a decent return on them at that cost without certifying their own components.
> A nagging pop-up is literally saying "fuck you" to your users.

Does any charity worker asking for money "literally" say "fuck you" to people? Honestly, I can't see your point. If done well, asking for donation does not have to be annoying.

> just like people switch from WinRAR to 7zip mostly because the latter doesn't nag

7Zip is free opensource; WinZip is closed-source time-limited shareware which nags once the time limit is reached. Regardless of nagging, users were supposed to pay for Winzip after a certain date from installation. This is why most people with advanced zipping requirements switched, once 7Zip became robust enough. (Regular Joes just stopped using either once Windows got good enough at dealing with zipped files.)

> You want me to pay you? Say it up-front.

Sorry, I personally have the opposite attitude. Why should I pay you if I don't even know whether your product actually works to my satisfaction? Once I'm happy with it, and you politely remind me that such lovely products don't grow on trees, I'm much more inclined to pay.
I am not sure if anybody considered it, but we have at least one Ubuntu member around. This funding sounds a bit like for single persons doing Ubuntu-specific things, but I will bring it up! Thank you.
These gruesome murders are obviously politically motivated. Aren't they inadvertently being helped by the media (not necessarily US media) who publish the grizzly photos of the victims. Just finished "Influence" by Chaldini, and I wonder if publicizing specific murders with gruesome details of death might inadvertently also be encouraging copycats.
The cover article in the Philadelphia City Paper this week was about Uber. I didn't read it to see what opinions were being handed out, but I wonder if someone on either side of this is paying a PR firm.
That's how I am using rebase all the time. I'd say yes - that's the most common use for it and I think it works fine for this.
I'm just waiting for the first security researcher to exploit the googlebot.
Will there be a difference between a self driving 1-5 person machine and a self driving 5-1000 person machine?

A robotaxi can take you to the local robobus hub, which drives you to the local robotrain point, whereupon a Just In Time (un)scheduled train will leave, as all journeys can be coordinated.
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Recently, a woman that I shared an elevator with commented on my laptop - she noticed that I worked at a large tech company. She commented that she too had worked for a large tech company at one time - AOL. I smiled.

She then immediately recounted the day she and her entire floor were laid off unceremoniously. Luckily, that was about the time that we reached her floor.
Find products that can be drop-shipped directly from the manufacturers.

Some won't want to, some can be convinced to, some are really into doing just that.

Of all the crazy things, someone once drop shipped me thirty pounds of dental plaster, part of a telescope mirror grinding kit. I expect the plaster company was accustomed to drop-shipping to dentists.

I myself am contemplating an ecommerce business, I get my Xen VM for free, I know how to code, but have nary a penny to my name for stock. Thus I'm very interested to learn what you find out.

It is exceedingly unlikely that my company would compete with yours. I would be serving a very specific niche; I expect there is demand, but the people who would demand my products, aren't consciously aware of that fact yet. I expect there's a term for that phenomenon but I don't know what it is.
How do you like the chiclet keyboard?

I'm still holding onto my x220 for dear life.
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To me, it's not the money that's the issue.

I just learned about elementary today, and when I'm presented with the main landing page, I feel that it is being very dishonest in what it is actually selling me. I'm not arguing the value of your work, but I feel that the whole product is very conscious about not mentioning Linux, Ubuntu etc.

Give me a proper explanation about what you (the group of people) are doing that brings value. Tell me what your work is based upon. Tell me it is free (as in speech, and as in beer), and let me make a informed decision if I feel this is something I want to pay for.
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Disgusting. Other religions are perfectly capable of inspiring similar acts.

Look at all the atrocities committed throughout history in the name of christianity: The imperial conquests of Africa and America were conducted in the name of spreading christianity and with the blessing of the church. American fundamentalists regularly murder abortion doctors in the name of religion. Breivik is a "christian warrior" defending christianity.

Second of all, Mormons?

"On Sept. 11, 1857, a group of California-bound pioneers camping in southern Utah were murdered by a Mormon militia and its Indian allies. The massacre lasted less than five minutes, but when it was over, 120 men, women and children had been clubbed, stabbed or shot at point-blank range. Their corpses, stripped of clothes and jewelry, were left to be picked apart by wolves and buzzards."

The truth is this: Humans are really not creatures of love. Murder is as natural to us as anything else, and history proves it. Killing is easy. It doesn't take much. If there's any lesson to be learned from genocides like the Rwanda massacres, civil wars like the breakup of Yugoslavia or the Nazi era, it is that a large proportion of humanity will readily become mass murderers for almost no reason at all. It really doesn't take that much.

Read about King Leopolds campaign in Congo. There's no need for islam to make people into murderers. People are murderers already. Religion is simply another excuse. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_Free_State#King_Leopold.2...
ADHD :)
Nice article. I've noticed people often call the act of running a child process "shelling out" even when there's no shell involved. It's good to know what fork & exec (& dup?) are and to grok the non-magicalness of shells (you could conceivably write your own shell just as privileged as bash - which is a normal userspace program after all).
Honest question: why do you say luckily?
Interesting you should pick the example of the Mormons, a religious organization whose founder was killed by an angry mob of seceders from his church...

Anyone that would suggest that the propensity of Islamic fundamentalists towards violence is particularly unusual amongst religious adherents has a remarkably inadequate grasp of history.
No, but I could only name about two female senior executives and I have no idea about their marital status.
In a world where autonomous car are effectively autonomous on ALL roads, that could work. But we are really far from here. How does autonomous car fare when the infrastructure sucks ?
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Yes, there's a shrinking, but still very lucrative, dialup business. It's provided the capital for Aol's growth into media and advertising these past several years.
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Depending on order of inheritance? Yes. And yes, it should scare you (though IME problems are rare and are obvious when they do occur). I love Scala but it's very much a language of awkward compromises.
I love Lua and I'm doing AI with it (with a veneer of electronics). What do you have in mind?
For those who are wondering why this might be a good investment: AOL still has 2 million (!) dialup subscribers that fork over $20 a month.

http://qz.com/401567/more-than-2-million-american-homes-are-...
Some previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9295102

His blog: https://amosyee.wordpress.com/

And the beginnings of a hagiography: http://whatamoswore.tumblr.com/

I don't know what exactly to make of his unflappable insouciance. But for a society built on ridiculous order like Singapore, he surely must appear to be the devil.

I expect a caning.

However: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/singapore/courts-crime/stor...

He clearly has talent, it just needs to be nurtured. I hope whoever ends up counselling him engages him on the antagonism between the individual and the collective, how each needs the other to survive, and the choices Singapore has made in navigating this balance.

Good luck kid. Good luck Singapore.
Somebody in the thread says he bought it. My experience is that a lot of SMEs and professionals did buy it. The price was so low, and at one point its features were really essential.
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And much of the current value is from acquisitions made since then.
Religion, held at any level above personal, is destructive to the larger population, in the long run. There is very little true tolerance from anyone who wishes religion to guide governing. It may be horribly violent attacks like this in Islam, but just as quickly it pushes for mandatory trans-vaginal ultrasounds in the U.S.

I may get downvoted, but I fail to see how religion will ever help guide the human race to a better place. You may be able to point to impoverished places where missionaries are saving lives and providing support, and yes, that is fantastic. But just as quickly it turns into imprisoning homosexuals and local government policies being driven by religious dogma.

Organized religion scares and saddens me. I wish it didn't, I'm aware there are many religious participants on HN. I do not mean to cause personal offense.
Even if their OS is nothing but Ubuntu + Pantheon wrapped in a fancy cover how does that make them 'wrong' for asking money for their efforts? How exactly is this different from someone making a fancy HTML5 bootstrap based template for wordpress and then charging money for it? Clearly the number of man-hours gone into making that template is nothing compared to the effort spent on bootstrap and wordpress - which are both free and open-source.

Lastly, concluding that asking money for your work (alongside providing free downloads) is akin to 'they are only in for the money' affirms my fears that I cannot even dream of living off of any open source software that I make.
Daniel recently quit hos job to work full time on Elementary[1]. Perhaps that is one reason they've been pursuing this shaming for not paying strategy lately.

[1] https://mobile.twitter.com/danielfore/status/583810531766722...
The point of testing is not to prove the code doesn't work. It's to prove the code does work. That subtle but important difference is the key to good testing.

Finding a problem with code is useful, but it's extremely limited. You might find 100 bugs, but if there's 101 bugs your product has the potential to fail completely. It's so much more useful to define a framework of things that the code has to do properly and make sure it does do them all properly. To that end, testing should come first - define what the code needs to do, write tests to make sure it does those things (automated unit tests where possible, but at the very least well defined processes for how you make sure it works), and then write the code to actually do it. Any developer who isn't interested in proving their code works, and will continue to work as it becomes more complex, is a terrible developer.

tl;dr If you want to fix testing don't write any code until you know how you're going to test it works.
A normal, physical product, yeah sure. But most SaaS, Baas or any other software project usually have a demo/trial for you to use before deciding if it's worth paying for.
Or looking at it another way, OP has trained the client to continue to act this way by rewarding his undesirable behaviour.

Its like giving a dog a biscuit every time it pisses on the rug.

Still, I feel that the fair solution to both parties is to explain to the client why the important and urgent items are going to take much longer than he thinks.

OP could look on this gig as an opportunity to train himself in managing clients, and therefore walk away with some benefit.
Yeah, that really prevented google from doing business in the EU.
I foresee Mike Arrington quitting again (or did he leave again already? I've lost track)
That was my reaction too. I'm a computer science graduate who's constantly wishing he'd taken more mathematics courses so I could read and implement more ML algorithms...
> If in my life I haven't made such an impact on at least one person that nobody is willing to take care of me when I'm not capable anymore myself

Have you ever been taking care about an elderly person? Are you aware what an immense task that is?

And even if you do everything right and do end up with a person willing to do it for you, they also have to be capable to do it right. That's quite a bet to take.
> Does any charity worker asking for money "literally" say "fuck you" to people? Honestly, I can't see your point. If done well, asking for donation does not have to be annoying.

If done well. In terms of charity, I find that the "worthiness" of charity is mostly inversely proportional to the amount of effort they spend on direct marketing (I often see the same about businesses, btw.). If you're going to nag me with ads or stop on the street and ask for money while being obnoxious about it (certain environmental organization comes to mind), you can bet I'll be blacklisting your charity from the group I'm even considering to support.

I like to pay. I hate being tricked, guilt-tripped or forced into paying.

> Why should I pay you if I don't even know whether your product actually works to my satisfaction? Once I'm happy with it, and you politely remind me that such lovely products don't grow on trees, I'm much more inclined to pay.

Fine, but if you expect me to pay for it eventually, apart from politely reminding me, please keep saying up-front that you expect to be paid.

Maybe what I'm really afraid here is the slippery slope - once you establish that it's ok to "remind people to pay" in FLOSS products, it will slowly creep up to the point of being annoying, and I'd hate to see that happen.
Why do you think that? Elementary is not the first distribution to focus on user experience and usability. Especially Ubuntu, on which they build their system, had that goal in mind, it's even in the name.

For me personally, I did not see much more in Elementary than an OSX clone.
How do you think the decision is made to insert a safebrowsing interstitial?
If you don't want to deal with the haggling then I have found two good options:

My bank offers pre negotiated prices on new cars that are decent and well under the sticker price.

You can also get the current Consumer Reporte car guide and walk in with that in your hand. It has the invoice price and recommends a fair price for each model. This gives you a much stronger position.
Also a key factor may have been the time required to get their own stuff certified vs using off the shelf stuff.
For the past couple of years, AOL has been a place where companies go to die. Will Verizon pick up that mantel and continue offering the much needed "Death with Dignity" service for waning tech companies?
> The Observer already wrote about New York City’s biggest medallion owner, Evgeny “Gene” Freidman, and his efforts to secure some sort of bailout as he watched the value of his 900-plus medallions shrivel. Those efforts have found surprising receptiveness in a city that has made a point of terrorizing billionaires.

I think you meant "made a point of bailing out billionaires".
What do you say about https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9529457?
Ask HN: Nurses who left to code, how was your transition like?
After five years as a surgical nurse, I'm in the final stages of my transition into being a software developer (60 days left of being a nurse). I'm thinking about documenting my transition and was wondering if there are any other nurses turned hacker out there. I've yet to meet any one else in real life who's done this.
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I totally agree that Mormonism used to be a rather terrible and violent religion. But please notice that you had to go back over 150 years to find such an atrocity committed by the Mormons. Their religion has changed drastically since then, thanks to collisions with secularism. Christianity used to be more barbarous as well, but centuries of progress have tamed it significantly.

Let me give a more obvious example of religion's role in encouraging/discouraging violence: Jainism. The core contributor to Jainism, Mahavira, said, "All breathing, existing, living, sentient creatures should not be slain, nor treated with violence, nor abused, nor tormented, nor driven away." It is really hard to be violent as a Jain. Jains protest by fasting. In fact, Gandhi got many of his ideas about nonviolent resistance from the Jains.

Also, you didn't answer my question. Do you honestly think there is any religion besides Islam that would raise such security concerns if mocked in a Broadway musical? I agree that culture and other factors matter, but the doctrines of religions are quite different. Some of those doctrines call for violence more than others. The sooner we admit that, the sooner we can try to fix the problem.
Is it just me that finds the entire concept of the Dash ridiculous?

I mean, what's the idea, having a button for every single product we buy? And we need to set it up first. How is that any better than recurring ordering or just opening the website and ordering it? Are we expected to have an entire wall of dashes at our place?

I guess we'll need to sort them alphabetically or by color, so we don't waste time searching for the button we need.
VCs.
> make them 'wrong' for asking money for their efforts?

It's wrong in the sense that they make it look they are making you pay for the OS, while they don't take care of the OS actually, and they don't give back money to those who make the OS in the first place which is the cornerstone of the cathedral.

It would be way more honest if they were simply selling the binary for Pantheon and charging only for that (close the a HTML5 template in that sense that it's separated from the base install).

I'm not against charging for your work, I'm against the attitude of entitlement they have as if they were responsible for the whole thing in the first place.
I think Lua is an amazing language and saddly the mentality to do everything in one language (Reminds me of people using MS Word for everything including spreadsheets is frustrating.

I really like the light weight small code base. That you can even do things functionally is a huge plus. If people would start using it as a scripting language for System Administration I think they would be pleasantly surprised but I guess BASH and Python/Ruby has stolen the mind share with Go seemly taking the place for a Lua in SysAdmin.
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The microphone is only active when you hold down the button - if it's always on (for whatever reason, accidentally or maliciously), the unit would run out of power in a few hours, it's powered by a single AAA cell.