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I hear in finish work culture going to the sauna (obviously naked and sex mixed) and getting wasted together are somewhat common. Haven't heart much that this leads to harassment.

I all come down to weather people are assholes or not, not weather they drink.
Why, when someone behaves like an asshole, do we so quickly reach for some pathology to explain it?

"He's behaved like an asshole" isn't enough, it has to be "he behaved like an asshole; he's probably got Asperger's".
> As a male, the mere presence of an overly sexy woman can put me in a state similar to fear: rising heart rate, mild trembling, goosebumps, inability to concentrate on whatever I was doing (talking to someone or doing work) etc.

Just to reiterate what others are saying, that's on you and something you need to learn how to manage to work in a professional environment. Otherwise, you're expecting someone else to accept an extra burden which they didn't ask for and may not even know about – and do all of that as an unpaid distraction from their real job.

The answer is simple: find a counselor whose full-time time is helping people debug their brains.
I don't know anything about watch-making, but gold is pretty soft and likely easy to machine. Ceramic-based composites, on the other hand... I'd be surprised if this were the case.
Women are free to do that, because they're the oppressed group. They aren't members of the patriarchy, they're oppressed by it. Whether or not they're behaving that way due to internalized sexism or personal preference is irrelevant to the point that this is a pattern of male sexual aggression.
Interesting idea. There is a blog post with more information at http://alexisvallet.github.io/posts/anime-character-detectio...

Also, it incorrectly identified two characters on the demo for me: http://a.pomf.se/pykdwz.png

Source: https://github.com/alexisVallet/anime-character-detection it seems
She pinned a single quote, but she alleges much more: a pattern of behavior, and willful ignorance or worse by HR.

See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9163769
The story she relates doesn't strike me as stretching for a harassment definition. If true, and I have absolutely no reason to doubt it, it is pretty clear that this Director is nowhere near any kind of fuzzy line of harassment. This is clearly harassment and no matter what brand of radical ideas she subscribes to, if any, the Director is egregiously wrong to have said this to any employee.
So basically what you are saying is with the way this bakery hires/fires and the way Microsoft and Google hires/fires - while there might be some slight differences between the two - at the end, the overall effect is the same.

And that what's really happening here with this no-interview no-skills-asked-for open-hire policy (and its high turnover rate), is that they are keeping the cream of the crop and shedding the wheat from the chaff.

It could be.
For one thing we might be able to measure the polar ice caps -- I don't know how far back our current data go, but I don't think they go back to 1950. Maybe spectronomy (?) could tell us something about the proportion of greenhouse gases.

If the telescopes had adequate resolution, we might be able to measure the size of cities over time. Images from 1950 forward might give us data on the progress of city growth and electrification by observing the spread of night-time illumination.

It's fantastic to imagine similar data going back centuries or millenia. It would be remarkable to chart the growth of Rome, London, Delhi, Beijing over time, or perhaps gather demographic data on the spread of the "barbarians". Or track the agricultural and demographic history of Egypt by watching the spread of cultivated land around the Nile delta. Or gather data on the history of trade routes like the Silk Road by observing the growth of towns along them. We might track the history of the Black Plague by observing the shrinkage of cultivated land, and the pause in the growth of urban centers.

We might learn a lot of climate science by gathering data on the explosion of Krakatoa and the subsequent effects on the polar ice caps.

We might gather data on the emergence and spread of agriculture from pre-history by observing transformation of forest land into farmland, and the appearance of greenery in places supportable only by irrigation. You might tell the story of the Tigris and the Euphrates that way.

Of course, all of that depends on spectacular levels of resolution. And those would have to grow as we looked back further in time, because the lensed light would appear that much further away. I suppose most of what I've listed here could easily be outside any plausible resolution. I guess I imagine that some of climate science stuff might be dreamt of.

But what a thing to think of!
And congrats, you are the problem.

Either

1 - you didn't read her claims; or

2 - you don't see the problem in a supervisor making such a comment, necessitating the employee's career advancement stop so she wouldn't report directly to him. So it's not just a single employee, but other people involved making sure she doesn't report to him. The instant he made that comment Google had to choose, and they chose him over her.

And claiming she needs a reprimand... I don't even.
Thanks, this is exactly what I was getting at. I don't know why every hour and day he delays is not an indictment on his character; maybe he is tied in ways I don't know, but if not, why isn't he acting?
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If that argument was blocked, they would come up with a different argument.

Don't deny women agency in the interests of logically proving bigots wrong. They don't care. They make up excuses.

Anyone that's been in a position of power where they could have stopped harassment without much risk, and didn't, is a part of the problem. This includes many men, and many women. It is important to shame harassers as much as possible.
I guess this needs explaining. An employee might sexually harass another employee, for which he or she should be punished. But a company can also be liable for creating conditions which allow sexual harassment to flourish. I am arguing that hosting events that blur the line between work and not-work contribute to sexual harassment. These things are not as black and white as some people on Hacker News think they are. Also, you're begging the question. Outside of a professional setting, telling someone they look good in a bikini being sexual harassment is HIGHLY dependent on context.
My favorite? This idiot right here:

https://twitter.com/AndrewMDodson

Really. I .. ignore his profile description for now. Read the links to Kelly's tweets and look out for this gem. He's a master of being an asshole, but among lots of peers.

If you're in the mood: Get back to the link above, read his self-description and .. cackle. I mean.. What?

(I might fall for a troll account, because .. I have a hard time believing that someone is that far removed from reality)
Did she tell him that she was not interested and ask him to stop first? This is the most vital information and it is missing.
Because it's male behavior.
unnatural desire for luxuries http://waltherpragerandphilosophy1.blogspot.ro/2014/04/to-li...
Fun fact: the fact that boron carbide is used and happens to also increase hardness of the watch band is interesting as boron carbide is the most common type of base ingredient in armor plates for soldiers due to its hardness which results in the ability to fragment rounds before they can achieve any significant penetration. [1]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Arms_Protective_Insert
Calling someone an asshole doesn't help you diagnose the problem, it just lets you vent and confirms your personal biases.

If you want to get to the root cause of this, you need to understand why that is happening. I strongly suspect that in most cases it's lack of emotional/social intelligence, and also frequently (how much is unclear) due to pathologies.

Sure, sometimes you know that what you're about to say is totally inappropriate, and you do it anyway, but I'm willing to bet that's a serious minority of cases.
"this incident isn't evidence of a "culture that is harassing/hostile to women" at Google."

Bad apple or a culture of making bad apples? The standard you walk past is that standard you accept ~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaqpoeVgr8U
If you actually read through it all, you'll see that she poured her drink on him after that ridiculous comment, then he reported her to HR for that. She got reprimanded, he got promoted.

At least that is what is being alleged. Your comment is pretty insensitive in that context.
I don't know about you but I would not under any circumstances WANT this kind of attention, let alone go seeking for it. Who in their right mind would?

If it were just a "single employee" as you say, then that "single employee" would've been dealt with swiftly and removed for his comments. That didn't happen. Instead, this individual was protected, and moved up in the company, preventing the recipient from doing the same.

And it's not just one situation. This person was brave enough to speak up about it. Would you be able to? I certainly wouldn't. I imagine many others also aren't, and I hope some of them feel more comfortable going forward.
He didn't say he doesn't trust the woman. Just what the other side of the story is. It's probably unlikely there's any justifiable reason given the quotes, but maybe there was a valid context.

(As a theoretical example that's unlikely: he might have been replying to an explicit invitation.)

Or hell, I'd like to know what he was thinking, just out of curiosity - like, what made him think the comment was acceptable?
None of Vic's compliments, which by the way happened outside the office, constitute sexual harassment. By vilifying innocent remarks, you're only further making men not want to work with women, while promoting a culture of oversensitivity and political correctness. Who wants to work in an environment where they can't make a simple compliment without being publicly ousted as a mysogynist offender? I sure as hell don't.
> I guess this is the part that is still unclear to me: How is this different from a curated list of pinned certs coupled with a ca cert store that holds only my own ca cert?

That sounds like it would have similar/identical properties to HPKP, which we cover here:

https://github.com/okTurtles/dnschain/blob/master/docs/Compa...

> How can/why should I trust a dnschain server to validate google.com? Because there is ample evidence in the blockchain that others have been tricked by/trusted a particular key/cert for google.com?

As mentioned in the article (and in a footnote therein), .com's cannot be MITM-proofed in a practical manner, unless they imported into a blockchain.

If you do not trust a DNSChain server, do not use it. Use only the server(s) you trust, and then you can trust the data in the blockchain. The data in the blockchain, meanwhile, is secure from MITM attacks as explained in more detail here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/2xjy13/love_this_i...
So i didn't want to leave you hanging, and i figured out thanks to the help of gaius below that i wasn't talking about chavs, but cockney, as exampled in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQJrBSXSs6o

It's an accent i hate not because it sounds different, but because i literally cannot understand what they are saying for over 2/3 of the words (using the term words loosely here, i have trouble distinguishing their words in the first place).
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It's also white behavior, black behavior, human behavior, woman behavior...
Reminds me of this http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/algorithm-recovers-speech-fro...
No, you're a little off. If we accept your example, then you're arguing that murder victims are responsible for fixing murders.

There are plenty of differences between murder and sexism (you can only murder a single person and once, sexism has oppressed multiple people multiple times for centuries... millennia?, sexism is a social/cultural phenomenon perpetuated by the patriarchy, murder isn't). The analogy really just doesn't fit.

The responsibility for fixing a problem is never with the victim.
60 cases in 50 years, spontaneous remission because of a totally random breakage and reassembly of the at-fault damaged chromosome... ...wild!

To quote Jack Aubrey, 1805ish, "what a fascintating modern age we live in".
Why do you always get downvoted to hell? I thoroughly enjoy your posts.

HN, what is wrong with being provocative? This place has too much buttoned-down, fear of the downvote (FOD, kinda like FUD but for geeks). Ironically, the HN crowd would make perfect academics. Such reason, much facts!

note: i'm an academic deciding on whether to take or bail on a tenure-track academic job.
Does "telling someone they look good in a bikini" characterize the situation at hand? I really don't think so.

I think it would be hard to categorize social events as potentially creating a bad environment or not. A different solution would be explicit rules for all social events, no? This would be easy to implement.
No, the question is as to what constitutes as "sexual harassment".
>write `err == nil` instead

I actually made this mistake a couple of times. Shows why it's important to unit test all error paths (of the 10k lines, at least 3k were unit tests).
Yeah, if either of those were the case, we'd never hear about it, would we? She felt sufficiently disturbed to call him out.

I take a pretty skeptical 'two sides to every story' stance on many of these kinds of reports but I can't think of any context given what's happened that this Director's actions toward an employee would be anywhere near appropriate. It is not even close. Unless she is a liar and pulling this out of thin air (and there is no reason I know of to think so) this is a serious breach.
I think a large group of people would really like their workplace to be more social.
She doesn't work for that company anymore.
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I say it vis-a-vis the public image that company is presenting. Google for years reaped the benefits, so to speak, from presenting themselves as ethically and morally a better entity than others. But now they also have to reap the criticism due to their perceived hypocrisy.
I think this is awesome. The routine and self respect of getting up and going to a job every morning is something people trying to re-integrate back into society really need. Not to mention money to buy things.

But I do have a story to relate. I was a construction project manager in my early 30's. We did land reclamation in disturbed areas like mines. We had a large project reclaiming a mine in Arizona. The company I worked for hired lots of former convicts without discrimination, and fired them just about as quickly and also without discrimination. One of the water truck drivers had a cousin who had killed some people in his teens and had just gotten out of prison. The guy was I think late 20's. He was living with his aunt and uncle. We had him out on the job staying at a motel with the rest of the crew for a few months. He was a bit odd, but he did OK work. When the job was over, we didn't need the big crew anymore and he was laid off. About a month later he killed the aunt and uncle he was staying with and went right back to prison.

So even though this is a good program and I fully approve and think we need more programs like this.... there are qualifiers. Recently violent people may need more help or supervision after release, before they are ready to enter a workforce.
Well, this is not so simple as wikipedia says. Crustaceans are a really big and wide group of life forms, and Carcinisation can be applied only to some groups of decapods (about 15.000 extant species). There are also about 11.500 species of Copepoda, 10.000 Isopoda, 13.000 Ostracoda, 9.500 Amphipoda and 1.300 Thecostraca, for instance, and none of these are crabs.
I question whether his hands would be tied.

He would be accountable to the board, and whether or not it was fiducially responsible to accept the risk of exposing Google to a civil suit would certainly be a topic for discussion. However, strategic decisions are within his purview. This is a endemic human resources issue that affects the well-being of the company. It would be entirely and justifiably within his discretionary power to react however he saw fit, unlike a more junior office holder who would have a specific job description, a clear set of powers and responsibility, and less political power within the organization.

I am not arguing that speaking out would be the correct decision at this time. In fact, as angry as the incident may make him, it might well be counter-productive to address it directly. However, I am not sure that it would correct to say that his hands would be tied.

I am speaking from reason rather than experience, and I have no real knowledge of Google's governing structure. I am adding this disclaimer because I am trying to kick the habit of seeming to know more than I do.
He asked "Would I be vilified for not trusting the woman?" and I answered the question. I think it was straightforward dialogue to understand.

I think everyone is curious...
As someone who will be graduating in less than a year of PhD in comp sci., I would like to encourage you to not give up on all PhDs with such assumption. Like you, I am not impressed with the prospect of academia and research in general. But I honestly don't think a majority of CS phd students at decent (top 50) universities will fail fizzbuzz test as long as they have had undergraduate CS background. Some of us may fail to implement BFS/DFS/merge/quicksort during a 45 minute interview, but I think this is due to the interviewing process for tech jobs being somewhat broken (I saw my peers studying 3 or more months with interview prep books/sites and thought it's becoming ridiculous). A much better way to test a candidate would be to assign him/her a take-home assignment/project and let him/her work on it independently or along with your team, and judge his/her candidacy based on it (if your company can afford the extra time/resource for such process). I'm sure you'll notice those PhD folks from CS would not be as bad as you think they are.

In any case, I'd (for selfish reason) encourage you to be open-minded and give applicants with PhD background at least an equal chance. Personally, I never wanted a PhD, but I went for it because I needed to keep my immigrant status legal, and I couldn't pay for a master's degree out of pocket (if I enroll for a PhD program, I get a master's degree for free on the way). The downside of being a PhD student is that it is significantly more difficult for me to find my way back into software positions, which is something I wanted to do eventually; the HR usually throws away my resume with the assumption(s) that I am either only interested in research or am "overqualified" (or that I'd ask for more money), all of which are incorrect for a lot of PhD students, like me, stuck in academia for now. For all HR or recruiters reading this, I'd encourage you all to give PhD students a fair shot for the programming positions at your firms. You might find that these PhD students are more motivated or have more persistence/endurance (as most who survive the PhD experience usually have) or if you're lucky, are better prepared and thoughtful programmers.
I wasn't implying that the differences were negative, only that it's probably a fair assumption that the life experience of someone incarcerated is going to be different from someone who never has been.
"Unwanted complements"?

C'mon. That is not a compliment. 'Nice hat' is a complement. "I'm having a hard time not grabbing your ass" is not a complement. In the best light it is a clumsy pass at her. And that is being overly generous.
Women do speak out, and they have been for hundreds of years.

The problem is that when a man is accused of harassment, assault, or rape, that man is usually in a position of power and defended, while the woman is usually blamed, discredited, or otherwise attacked. Many women choose not to speak out because of the negative effect it can have on their career and their peer group, to say nothing of the onslaught of harassment that usually follows. It's much more necessary for society to change its thinking about women who report these actions than it is for women to report them, at this point. Women have been doing it, largely against their own self interest, from the beginning.
> But realistically, I know of no society where parents don't favor the interests of their own children,

"But realistically, everyone else is doing it..."

Yes. I didn't have any particular society in mind. Just our own nature.
> Why didn't you back me up?

Because there are no witnesses and no other proofs for the wild allegations you make against your former employer after being fired. Fight the "patriarchy" some other way. Preferably without making shit up.
You know the problem with these claims is that you never know what actually happened.
I find that quite often these threads just reinforce the hate and blindness in people - it doesn't fix anything.

You get called out for kindly offering a woman coffee when you're making yours at the machine. Offering it to a man is ok. Being a woman offering it to a man, the man will looked at as if he's manipulated her to do that. That's fucked up.

This is very bay-area specific, and it's quite toxic.

When you see something that is obviously wrong, or know the facts, do act. Make it stop.

When you don't, be curious - instead of hating with passion. Remember that people are actually innocent until proven guilty. Even if it's cool to hate (specially white males).
Otherwise, it destroys you and the very things you're fighting for. Every single time.
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I agree, however "activist" is only part of her identity. This could easily be a jealous lover.
I have the feeling that the gold watch portion will actually be significantly smaller portion of the 5K price (if it is 5k) Something like $999 - $1999. The rest of the price will come in the bands at 2 - 4K each.
Why do you need back up? Why couldn't you deal with it at the time?

Its a shame perhaps that men and women are not typically given the same upbringing, or have the same natural tendencies, when it comes to confrontation.

Not doing anything about it at the time, then moaning about it after the fact, as a man, is social suicide - its cowardly and makes you look weak.

As a woman these same behaviours are lauded as self control and intelligence - and the opposite, as being reactionary and thoughtless. You may be labelled as bossy, a control freak or worse...

Neither of these attitudes is quite right... however I do think that people need to stick up for themselves. Don't expect any back up and fight your own corner... but then I am a man, and this is our default attitude. 'being a man' very much means being strong, independent, self-reliant and unassailable... without asking for attention or rewards for doing so. I'm not sure why women shouldn't be encouraged to do the same - these are imo objectively good properties of a successful human being, regardless of gender.
Well said, I salute you!
That there is no configuration is kind of the point. Close the door on the bike shed and attempt to popularize a conventional style.

If you want more control, use ESlint or jslint or jshint and define your own rules.
Ask HN: Differences you've noticed between CS students and the self-taught?
(Full disclosure: I'm a white male) Statistics overwhelmingly document sexual violence (and all violence, by the way) as male behavior and historical record shows that the ideological and individual defenses of it is also overwhelmingly male. Your sentence is non-sequitur in this context.
Oh I'd definitely do it while they were buying donuts.