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I posted "This is stupid" into the demo ( http://stupidfilter.org/demo.php ) and it said "Text is not likely to be stupid."
I started reading the PDF, and I found several errors on just the first couple of pages. I also found information that was sourced to warresisters.org, greenpeace, commenweal.org, etc.

I'm not trying to be harsh -- I'm sure the video is of high quality -- but when you say things like "In 2003, humanity’s Footprint exceeded the Earth’s biological
capacity by over 25 percent" or "In the past three decades, one-third of the planet’s resources, its ‘natural wealth,’ has been consumed" there is certainly room for debate about these things.

Debate which probably doesn't belong here.

Flagged.
Well, it's all a database might be referring to the AS400 stuff, but the mainframe itself in addition to not having a filesystem, may not have a database either.
There isn't any confusion.

They are discussing a distinctly different issue. It happens regularly to me and goes like this:

* My friend Scott has signed up for Google Voice.

* He regularly sends SMS messages to me with his cell phone. (Not his Google Voice number)

* I get a text message from his Google Voice number.

Google did some formulating in the middle and instead of giving me a random 406 number as you describe, it gives his Google Voice number which does multiple things:

* Potentially exposes to me a number Scott meant to keep as private

* Screws up the conversation because I cannot reply to the text message for he doesn't have forwarding on his Google Voice number (because he doesn't use it)
Well, wealth can be used to create wealth, too, or even to help society directly. Some think that all of the wealthy are Donald Trump, but some are Gates and Buffet and Rockefeller and Carnegie. It does not seem to me that intelligence is always spent so wisely. There are investors like Stephen Hawking, philanthropists like Norman Borlaug, and then there are people like William J. Sidis. Wealth squandered or consumed is extremely visible, but I think many capable inventors and entepreneurs stay in grad school and go on to quiet careers--using their brilliance a nothing more than a ticket to a slightly easier life. The equivalent of quietly living off an inheritance.

Your gifts belong to you. Spent or given back or squandered, they are yours to do with what you will. It is repugnant to me to claim that because The Gifted are not going to use their Wealth optimally for the Common Good, the State is entitled to seize it and spend it more Wisely. The idea stinks of jealousy and avarice; it is an excuse to take, not an appeal to justice. It does not matter how people use their gifts; the gifts are theirs.

You can scale the idea right down to Christmas morning. All the same arguments still work, but the fundamental injustice is clearer. If I want to give my brother a bike, anyone could object that he did not work for it and does not deserve it. He will probably use it foolishly in childish revelry and break it in some ill-advised stunt. He only got it because he had the good fortune of being my brother; there are strangers I don't know who need and deserve a bike far more. Certainly he isn't going to create wealth with it, in fact, for all we know it's just going to collect dust in the garage. Surely the state is entitled to take it and give it to someone more deserving, and leave my brother a skateboard in its place?

Ptui.

My money is mine, and who I choose to give it to is my business. If I choose to enrich friends and family who I love, that is up to me--and is one of the main points of having money in the first place. You can criticize my choices or appeal to me for the common good or explain to me why it's okay for you to help yourself to what, in your opinion, I'm not using. It's all irrelevant. The point of ownership is that I still have the right and responsibility to use my gifts as I best see fit.
I missed the previous thread, thanks. I'll see you guys there!
Confirmed. It's personal. Anyway.
There's lots of types of NoSQL dbs, where would you like to start? Are you looking for a DocumentDB or a Key/Value store or a Graph DB or a column oriented db?

Do you have a preference on what language an example app or tutorial is in?
The fact that I keep seeing this argument in geek forums today is an excellent argument for the new rule.

Hint 1: Search for "Flash cookie".

Hint 2: The wording in the new rule doesn't control specifically the kind of HTTP cookies you're talking about, it's more general.
Admirable intent, and it seems pretty good, but I've seen far too many people follow advice like this and end up producing confusing nonsense while thinking they're doing the right thing.

By all means take the concepts, but don't try to apply them like that. There are so many pitfalls that this doesn't help you identify, let alone avoid.

If it helps you grok stuff, great. I think I'm pretty clear on how to do a quadruple coronary bypass - I'll just figure out the details as I go along, shall I?
These seem like soft-ball questions all around. Phone screening is such a pain in the ass, I am surprised that more people don't have a timed web form or similar setup so we can avoid having to waste the hours talking to people that aren't going to make the cut.
Even if we limit it to primitive recursive functions, how can we put a bound on the Kolmogorov complexity of one? We'd need some way of coming up with bounds on the smallest Turing machine to compute that function.
A very scientific approach.
Pass.

Sounds like they've been reading too many Google interview questions.
The article is wrong. The actual new law states :-

Where it is technically possible and effective, in accordance with the relevant provisions of Directive 95/46/EC, the user's consent to processing may be expressed by using the appropriate settings of a browser or other application.
Sounds like that's what she was doing... "Associate Product Marketing Manager"
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If we restrict the freedom of other countries to trade freely with us or each other we would be killing a lot more people.
How do you detect errors? That's the question that the exception-handling part of exceptions is designed to solve. Having every function need a reference to a channel is really no different than error detection using return codes.
If you need a hand - drop me a line.
first! is classified as "not likely to be stupid", which shows how much work it needs.
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The consensus among the yobos is that it's "OK".
He said himself a while back that he makes his blog posts short on purpose so that his point doesn't get dilluted in a sea of text.

FWIW, I think the point wasn't to suggest that there is some new hammer; just that you should be aware that there's a very high chance you're not seeing a bigger picture due to confirmation bias or whatever.
I feel like I might be the only person in the world who isn't excited about this language.

I don't like the verbose c-style syntax. The examples that I've seen don't have the clarity that I've come to expect from functional programming languages like haskell.

To me, the language feels like a c/c++ that has better language features for dealing with shared state and concurrency. That's nice, but it's just not enough to get me stoked about learning it.

I'll maintain an open mind, though.
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Would any on you guys care to tell a little about the Buenos Aires dev/founder experience? Never been to Argentina but it seems like something interesting is building up there...
Rigorous interviews will increase the false negative rate, at the expense of false positives. It's part of the culture at Microsoft and Google and other companies.
Github - really? I just can't imagine Github being nearly as important to git adoption as some of those other points. It's a slow, clunky interface to a fast VCS.
> avoid having to waste the hours talking to people that aren't going to make the cut.

chicken/egg... how are you going to know that without talking to them?

However, to that end, could you just raise the bar on the resumes and also the subequent first-round phone screens to reduce the number of 2nd-, 3rd-round interviews? The Google application (for non-college recruits) is already extensive and probably acts as a weed-out mechanism for many people deciding to just apply on a whim.
I guess I'm just looking for an introduction to both. They can be different documents, of course, but it would be nice to have one that compares different types, too.

No preference RE: language. Python or PHP would be nice but I can read Ruby as well.
To be honest, a moderately intelligent 5th grader could have answered that question about the 10 cents per ad. I know that math isn't her field, but on some level one is expected to be well rounded.
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You're going to be down-voted to oblivion as my comment was here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=938814. Google of 2009 has become the Microsoft of 1999. They can release anything and people will love them for it without skepticism. Let them. The sheep can follow their new overlord while the rest of us actually innovate. I highly suspect had Yahoo or Microsoft Research released Go, it would have received a much more lacklustre reception.
While it would be great if Adobe would work with browser makers to have Flash honor HTTP cookie settings, you can certainly tell Flash to ask you if you'd like to store data.
I realize that she was under some pretty severe stress, but a marketing manager that thinks gmail earns ~$70,000 a day? Or that each user will click on seven ads a day?

“Google places four ads per e-mail opened in Gmail. Advertisers get to pick their click-through rates, which can be as little as $0.05...Say each G-mail user opens seven new e-mails a day. They would see 28 ads. If they click on ¼ of those ads, then only seven ads are clicked."

Gmail probably has something like 150 million users, so her figure of 7 ads clicked per user at a minimum of 5 cents a click would result in 52.5 million dollars a day. At some point she should have realized the void between her new analysis and her original $70,000 guess. The whole point of the question is to examine your analytical and estimation skills. The fact that she didn't notice that she was moving towards and answer 750 times the size of the her last one says a lot.
Get out more. Pick a hobby that requires some kind of interaction - the drama class is a fine example - and then commit yourself to it for at least a year.

You don't need to "relate", or "understand" other people. You just need to recognize and develop an appreciation for their point of view, even if it doesn't make sense to you.

The best way to do that is to immerse yourself in it. If "people" were a new programming language that you needed to learn, how much would you dedicate to learning it? If it were a language that you would be required to use for the rest of your life, how much would you give to it?

It won't be easy, and it won't come all at once. I assure you, as someone who has gone through all of this, that it is totally worthwhile. Professionally and personally.
Umm, yeah, I've been researching and programming concurrent systems for some time now. CSP is not a good way of doing that.

Go is not very early in its lifecycle. Just look at the feature set - it's the very direct continuation of the work Pike and Thompson were doing on Plan9.
Not surprisingly, 9 of the 10 YouTube comments I tested were classified as "likely to be stupid".
>lmao!!!

Text is likely to be stupid.
"The last 3 years was a process you had to go through to get to where you eventually want to be. A very efficient process that not too many others ever get a chance for."

Why not actually try to be what you 'eventually want to be', now . . . choose you're own adventure, now. You don't need to put up with feeling like you're being taken advantage now, so that later you can feel you're getting what you're worth. I don't believe there are any standard, efficient processes that you 'have to do' to get where you want to be. You figure out, thats part of the learning process.
They need to do way instain filter>
I think the gmail answer would have sunk her too. Google is an advertising company -- 1/4 (25%) clickthrough on Gmail ads (not even search) is just crazy. People click search ads because they're looking for something, Gmail ads probably get an order of magnitude less click through (people aren't in gmail to find new things). For someone applying to an advertising company, she needs to know their basic business model and assumptions.

If she thought about her own usage, she'd realize that it was an insanely high number (had she ever clicked on a single gmail ad, let alone 25% of them?).
I know people who are as brilliant, productive and esoteric as Don, and who don't have a cave, and do have great social skills, and don't have control issues, and no, I wouldn't call them nerds.

In fact, I know Don Knuth peripherally, and I don't think he is a nerd.

<shrug>

The baggage you have for the word "nerd" is different from mine. The article is definitely describing mine. In essence you said it earlier: your semantics don't match mine. They obviously don't match the author's either. Or my wife's. Or my colleagues'.
I feel like the bigger challenge is finding the smallest piece of text that isn't considered stupid. I hypothesized that this would be difficult, but it turns out 'a' isn't likely to be stupid.
I am in a very similar situation. I would be interested in hearing what you come up with. Send me an email at retroryan // gmail
Exactly right: http://stupidfilter.org/random.php
I hope this doesn't end up equating having English as a second language with supidity.
Sounds like she is the "recite facts" type, rather than "quickly think critically" type. Google wants the second type of person, and it appears she is not that. So the interview process worked perfectly; she didn't get a job she wouldn't be good at, and Google doesn't have an employee that doesn't fit with them. I fail to see how this is a nightmare, other than that she'll have to work somewhere that makes her buy her own lunch.
I could see having trouble answering something like this over the phone - especially if you have a bit of math phobia. That being said, Google was probably not the best match for her. Her guess at clickthrough rates was also kind of painful.
Right off of the bat there is too much stuff to look at in the front page. I think get rid of the sign up page on the first page and put a bit button link to it and spend more time explaining why people should care and what problem you are solving for them.
This looks stupid to you because you see it in the context of a stupid meme. When seen this way:

How is <unknown word> formed?

It doesn't look stupid at all.
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Anyone using Ejabberd's HTTP-Bind (BOSH) functionality? In particular, is anyone using it in combination with Strophe?

Right now I'm using Strophe+Punjab for a project but I'm thinking it might be worth cutting out the Punjab dependency.

(Just for reference, the very awesome Strophe: http://code.stanziq.com/strophe and Punjab: http://code.stanziq.com/punjab )
Great!, I'll try to be there. All of you are from US?(I'm argentine).
If you are so good that you can break current encryption, go for it :-)
I think the point the OP was making was that both corporations and governments are made up of people. I agree with this; a corporation and a government is not a physical entity, and can therefore not be evil. However, people can act evil in the name of that entity. Personally, I think that as soon as we try to brand a group of people, we lose the argument.
The page on "Them" goes heavily into the importance of big, slitted eyes and how our wariness of such indicates the effect of millenia of Neanderthal predation.

As opposed to indicating the effect of millions of years of predation by a variety of large felines, many of which hunted at night.
She also bombed a middle school level math problem.

One question (paraphrased): $0.10 cpc, with a 20% of visits resulting in a click. How many visits needed to make $20?

After five painful minutes the annoyed interviewer gave me the answer...She made it sound so easy; I felt like a moron.

She is innumerate.

If I were illiterate, I'd probably describe an interview at McGraw Hill as nightmarish. "After five painful minutes of trying to sound out the words the annoyed interviewer read the sentence to me...She made it sound so easy; I felt like a moron."
Well, let's be clear, hacker news is a website for hackers/entrepreneurs to waste time, blow off steam, maybe learn something but more likely find interesting commentary.

I liked the coffee beans article, I drink a lot of coffee and it was an interesting quick read to kill 5 minutes before a meeting.

The community here happens to consist of people who find entertainment in learning about things, but let's be clear, this site is entertainment.
I thought it was funny that the link she gave to "15 Google Interview Questions That Will Make You Feel Stupid" has wrong answers in the solutions. See if you can beat their answer for the two egg problem - Bonus prove your answer is actually the minimum possible.
Yeah, it's good to bring that up. I got lucky on the auction and grabbed a conic burr: the Bodum Antigua.

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CouchDB the definitive guide - a work in progress, but it's free and amusing to read: http://books.couchdb.org/relax/
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Have you considered interviewing again (I'm assuming some time has passed)? I think its usually a pretty good sign when interviews go long. I think it might be worth your time. Feel free to email me if you'd like.
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Here's an update to my project that I had submitted to HN about a month ago. As always, comments and suggestions are welcome.

Thanks
I wasn't sure. I assumed that most people on here check both websites therefore it was redundent. However, speaking from experience, I don't see the point in commenting on a Slashdot thread, so I guess there's no reason for this to be a taboo.
Ah, apparently we've got some people with investment in this "theory" around.

EDIT: And yes, you don't normally comment about moderation. But someone voting people down for being skeptical about a bit of half-baked, book-selling, amateur speculation is worth noting.
I worked for Google for a few years, and did a lot of phone screens. Most of the people who I interviewed probably felt the same way as this lady. The process may seem brutal, but it is impossible to invite everyone in for an on-site interview, and the phone screen does a pretty good job of filtering out the definite nos (although I'm sure that some good candidates are rejected).

I could count the number of people who passed one of my phone screens on one hand (and I considered myself a fairly easy interviewer).
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Google has interviewed tens of thousands of candidates in this manner. Other companies have interviewed even more, using roughly the same process. With all the preparation this girl put into her interview, I don't see how she possibly could have been surprised by those types of questions. The first piece of advice anyone will give you is that the final answer is not nearly as important as talking through the process you would use to solve the problem. Obviously she never even read that first piece of advice, because she blurted out a wild guess to the very first question. Don't let this happen to you!

Google's interview process isn't a nightmare. It's entirely typical. If you plan on interviewing for any job, you should spend a lot of time studying the interview process and how to excel in it. If you're interviewing for programming jobs, this course is an invaluable resource: http://courses.csail.mit.edu/iap/interview/

Read all the handouts 5 times, and you won't be caught off guard like this girl was.
I have experimented with BOSH over the last few releases, I gave strophe+punjab a shot but I found it pretty unwieldy and hard to configure, I havent had any problems with bosh as of yet
I agree with your assessment and share it myself. What gets me is the "I'll keep an open mind" type of comments I see attached to criticism of the language.

I don't mean that as a dig against you personally, but what I mean is that a lot of people who admit they don't like the language still feel obligated to add a similar phrase to their statements - which I think is entirely because this came out of Google and has a couple classic rockstars behind it. If it were introduced by an unknown research student or hobbyist, it'd have been dismissed and declared dead from the very start and that'd have been the end of it.

(I admit that I also was influenced by this. I saw the initial specs, some examples, and immediately thought, "this seems... pointless." But I dug in deeper because of the reputations involved. My opinion hasn't really changed, but I gave it a lot more attention than I would have otherwise because of these factors.)

The reason this bugs me is that there's a lot of interesting research out there in the languages world. It shows up on HN pretty frequently, but it never really spills beyond places like here because people have no trouble dismissing or ignoring new ideas immediately when they come from "strangers." I guess I don't have a big point here, just that it's unfortunate that this is likely going to result in a huge uptake of Go when other viable systems language alternatives have existed for, in some cases, decades but seem doomed to be ignored just because there wasn't a big name attached.
I don't know why people are downvoting you. I can tell you that I've seen the same thing and having dealt with the fallout of bad hiring, I'd rather miss some good or even great candidates rather than hire someone bad. Edi: To clarify: I work at Google.
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No such law was ever passed, but Indiana did come close back in 1897, apparently:

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/805/did-a-state-leg...

Apparently the trend of legislators voting for things that sounded good but that they didn't understand in the least has remained in changed for at least the past 112 years.
This is, apparently, not likely to be stupid:

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What's also important is that it was a phone screen: this also saved employees' time on interviewing the person and company's time on flying out, wining and dining the person.
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This looks to be a good resource for back of the envelope style estimations
"charistmatic" or "leadership" may be the words you are looking for?
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It says something about her current estimation skills. Are these skills she is often going to need in marketing?

But overall, it was probably a good thing for her not to go there. Sounds like Google has a particular mindset (one that reminds me, anecdotally, of stories of Microsoft 15-20 years ago), and she wouldn't fit there. I'm not at all convinced that means she couldn't be effective at marketing somewhere else, though.