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My TomTom has that data for most places, and I'm from America. I think it just depends on the GPS model and the data provider.
Clicking multiple times, even. I was rather amused.
When someone "waits" to upgrade, I wonder who they think is doing the actual testing on their behalf.
Do you also plan to flag every article mentioning Marx, socialism, Chomsky, environmentalism (for or against), etc, etc?

I don't think flagging is the answer. Just don't read it.
"bash a book you haven't read"

Because he found it unreadable.
FYI: The return from paypal is broke...

http://localhost:3000/success?merchant_return_link=Return+to...

Edit: Also, a personalized handwriting font upload would be neat.
I love that idea, please let us know when it is live
This was my biggest questions too, how much you were able to automate it. This seems like it would really only be viable if you could eliminate the human step as much as possible. Like, ideally, some sort of machine that printed, stamped, folded or put in some kind of envelope, and dropped it in a bucket of outgoing mail that the postman could play with.

If you can work ON the process instead of IN it then there is some potential for this to work on volume, but overall really cool idea, props!
Ask HN: What artists do you like?
I've seen various topics what music people like, but couldn't find anything similar for what artists people enjoy.

I'm a fan of Marcel, Duchamp, John Singer Sargent, Jack Kirby, Patrick McDonnell, Ernst Ludwig Kirchner; the list could get quite lengthy.

As with my preference in music, I feel there are common qualities, but I'm hard pressed to clearly define them.

What artists do you like? Can you explain why? Do have artwork in your home or office?
Try http://www.afternoonrally.com/ It's focused on stocks and investing and has videos for news.
Well, no kidding. Which was part of my point. A summary of someone's views is not a substitute for the real thing. This is true for Ayn Rand as well, but folks who hate her don't like to admit this.

(Disclosure: I'm not remotely a Randian. I'm just sick of the bias I see here.)
i've done this on Pikk, what i do is set a cookie as an identifier and then without login, forbid double ip-addressed based voting. upon login, if there is a cookie set, i go and harvest the votes and convert them to the logged in user. so the table Votes has a user id and a cookie user id. hope this helps. check out www.pikk.com and let me know if this is what you mean.
I've seen voting tools that apparently track by IP address. Not infallible, but maybe no worse than using a unique account name, since accounts are typically easy to acquire (unless you are track them by IP address as well :) )
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That is what I also thought. From the article:

> Many of the specially designed bikes, which cost $3,500 each,

They have thought extremely hard how to make the bike so expensive. A fancy normal bike costs $200. How the hell do you pay that much for a bike?

I paid $5000 for my car...
If you're going to criticize the book, at least consider the time in which it was written, don't just say "it was bad and tedious and I couldn't get through it". Atlas Shrugged was written in the 40s and 50s as a response to Communism, which was the new cool philosophy at the time. Objectivism and laissez-faire capitalism certainly have their flaws, and they're the same as for any other philosophical solution-to-everything that starts with, "if only everyone in the world would.."

There are some ideas in there worth reading, and plenty that today seem dated. Anyway, it's healthy to read things that you disagree with..

Thanks for the suggestion of The Name of the Rose, added it to my wish list.
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He didn't say anything about her beliefs. He said the book sucked. For all you know, he's a libertarian.
Whether or not I'm wrong, where are the analogies?

Yeah, not a great choice of words on my part. Using descriptions of taxes, loans, and usury in the explanation of what disturbed you about this investment deal seems at least close to the definition of analogy though.

The issue, however, would then be being able to make the same amount of money as you would in a country with higher taxes. That is to say, you get what you pay for.

That seems unlikely. I'd get the exact same benefits in this country if I'd paid <10% of the taxes I already have.
Measurability = Accountability
Maybe you could play some white noise in the background?
I find the same thing true. Problem solving is me cycling through questions until I ask the right one. The question I start with is always either too specific or too general to narrow my search. But after enough iterations, the right one trickles through.
You seem to have a decent grasp of the author's point, since you just reiterated a huge chunk of it!

The point, as the author repeatedly tried to explain in the comments, is not that this is some sort of actually good idea for a probe. The point is to use it to examine the entire concept of "habitable" by creating a fairly objective standard. It's like how psychologists name and classify disorders just so they have an objective standard to discuss the matter with, long before they understand the disorder. Exploring the meaning of "habitable" explicitly without reference to Man's ability to change the environment is the point.

Yes, the standard is arbitrary. I'm surprised to see so many people freak out over that. Mathematicians do it all the time.
Pretty cool, definitely step in the right direction.

Is there ever a situation where a bunch of legitimate users have the same IP? I'm thinking at a university maybe, corporate firewall, or AOL?

Even so this compromise might be worth it to remove the login hurdle.

If you become Digg or something and people start actively trying to get around it, do you think this would be about as secure as logins? Could be a high quality problem to have.
But Google Maps has had that data for years.
Ask HN: Why downvote? I honestly do not get it. 
What is the point of downvoting someone?

I apologize to anyone who may take offense to the following, but I find it very barbaric.

Most people, I believe, downvote because they do not agree with someone's opinion. I cannot see how that is different than someone throwing a stone at another person just because they do not agree with them.

Maybe web communities are still primitive, or maybe there is a real flaw in current commenting/rating systems.

If there were some consequences to downvoting, i.e. we knew who downvoted whom, what do you think would be the result?
I have performed a side-channels attack on the original comment, and have determined it is unintentionally leaking information about the author's political views. It turns out he's not a libertarian.
But Google Maps has had that data for years. I assume they just signed something saying they wouldn't use that data for turn-by-turn navigation.

(Remember, Google Maps has had driving directions forever. It just showed you all the turns at once, instead of as you were driving.)
Digg caught red handed faking ad votes?
Sure, thanks for the suggestions. I guess I might give Chomsky a pass if it was purely about linguistics and didn't involve his politics at all.

Look, I'm not out to push my politics here, if that's what you're thinking. I read HN because of the high-quality discussions about technology and related matters. If I want to see flame wars over libertarianism, environmentalism, or whatever else there's an entire internet full of that dreck, and the amount of political content usually has a pretty direct negative correlation to the quality of discussion at a site.
Anyone whose owned a bike knows that maintenance is actually a pretty big deal (it's not difficult, but you need constant vigilance) and that should have been a huge warning sign before Paris started putting this plan into action.

Aside from that the vandalism situation compounds the problem. The class struggle aspect to it in France is interesting. I'm not sure that issue would be as bad in other regions, but surely vandalism would exist at some level everywhere.

Personally I would much rather like to see governments seek an actual policy on bike storage and encourage people to buy their own bikes. As has been discussed before, in most cities there has been little to no thought put into where people will store their bikes at home or at work. I think this is a key driver why many don't see cycling as a sensible option for their commutes. Until this issue is adequately solved, cycling will be inaccessible to many.
I cannot see how that is different than someone throwing a stone at another person just because they do not agree with them.

You don't think there is any difference between throwing a rock at someone and reducing their overall vote count by one vote in an electronic voting system? If someone downvotes me, I have a reason to look again at what I posted and whether or not it fit the discussion. If someone throws a rock at me, I have a reason to report a case of assault to the police.
Interesting site, but just a friendly word of warning: Pik (with one k) is the Danish word for 'cock', in the porn sense.
Banksy is pretty rad - http://j.mp/YTWIu
The dorm I live in is behind a NAT, so we all have a shared IP.
Actually, that looks great!
that is a drawback, but all you have to do is create a login and the problem is solved. it's a compromise for sure but the problem is, one bad apple ruins the whole system, and as soon as you launch, one bad apple will come along and vote 20 times on a story by clearing their cookies. so, for me, 1 vote per IP for cookie based login or ignore IP for logins has worked out well for me. i haven't officially launched the site yet, and when i do, i am actually leaning toward requiring logins but i'll play that by ear.
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yeah but at least this requires work. at least you're putting the barrier up of having to login over and over. if you do detect login abuse voting, you simply ban the IP and throw up a message saying "you've been banned for..." my experience is that fake account voting is way way less frequent than double IP voting.
I'm especially partial to three bits of classical music.

1. 20th century classical. I really love Shostakovich, Stravinksy, Bartok, and others who blended "classical" elements (18th and 19th centuries) with modern ideas. At its best, their music is as rich and enjoyable as Mozart and Beethoven, but unusual and fresh at the same time.

2. Contemporary minimalism. (Contemporary maybe meaning 1960s and on.) Especially Arvo Part, Gorecki, and John Adams. Beautiful, haunting, original, and accessible. If you're looking for recommendations, try Fratres and Tabula Rasa by Arvo Part, or Symphony #3 by Gorecki. Really unbelievable music.

3. Bach. 300 years old, and better than anything that's come since. He rides the tension between simplicity and complexity, beauty and the sublime. If humans are still around in 20,000 years, when they look back to the 1000's, they'll think of Bach and Shakespeare. Recommendations: cello suites, cantatas, St. Matthew's Passion, and everything else.

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I'm less experienced with visual art, but Kiki Smith definitely deserves a mention. I also enjoy Gerhard Richter, Kandinsky, Chagall, and Klee.
This is a question of economics. When patrons are discouraged from conversation they are more apt to spend more time drinking and more money at the bar.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20080718/loud-bar-mus...
Comment on the ground - quoted in the article - is that the scheme is "not a complete success". But reading the article as a whole, you'd hardly think that - you'd think it's a complete failure.
Banksy's not bad, for what he is. In a lot of ways he's the cultural opposite of the Damien Hirst sort—everything Hirst likes Banksy hates and vice versa. But he's not particularly interesting stylistically, and a lot of his work is derivative, if pleasant to look at. His anti-consumerist screeds are similarly fun to listen to, but not particularly bright.
Do you do anything extra to verify an OpenID account? It's probably easy to set up a bunch of domains with fake openid servers, so I would expect that to be susceptible to abuse too unless you have some extra step to make sure the voter is human.
BTW, does anyone have a 3278 font? The ones I have lack the distinctive 6s and 9s. I also thnk numbers were a couple pixels taller than letters...

Anyone here with access to a real 3278?

A 2250 or 2260 would also be very, very cool.
I seem to be rather particular about visual art; there's not a lot that I really like. Jacob Lawrence's paintings strike me as interesting.

In my home/office I have mostly photographs, and of those mostly photographs that I've taken. Also a rather large portrait of Einstein, some artwork of the Brooklyn Bridge, and some original ink drawings by Duane Bibby.
I did just fine, thank you. Matrix form is not necessary to tell me that we need to approximate both x and dx/dt in order to use our knowledge of d^2x/dt^2. It is not particularly difficult to remember that the second derivative is the first derivative of the first derivative.
I'm not much of an art person, but I love Duchamp. Just saw his exhibit at the Philadelphia Museum of Art a few weeks ago. I'm also an enormous Pollock fan.

Smaller artists include Leonid Afremov, Rob Gonsalves, and David Lanham. With the exception of Gonsalves it's nothing particularly brilliant, but I enjoy it visually. I also love the artwork of certain comic artists. Bill Watterson, of course, and Berke Breathed, and David Hellman of A Lesson is Learned.
As easy as it is to be cynical about this sort of thing, coining a new phrase brings a fresh perspective, and additional abstraction.

Whereas before I thought of service pricing and revenue share as two separate things, now I see them as part of a coherent strategy.
"I think this gets to the heart of our differences. I don't know things, so I ask people. Or I take up positions which others can criticize. As part of a discussion, I learn more. If modern banking practices are germane, educate me on them."

"There is a concept called 'strong opinions, weakly held' You might want to look into it."

These are fine methods of learning when you're surrounded by people significantly more knowledgeable than yourself. The problem is precisely the situation I was discussing: when you don't have a critical mass of knowledgeable people, it's the blind leading the blind, and thanks to the Dunning-Krueger effect, it's unlikely that you'll be able to tell who among the chorus of voices knows what they're talking about, and may even have trouble recognizing that you're going down the wrong path.

"As a side note, the internet is full of folks spouting off about things they know little about. So is life. Democracy is built on the concept of average voters voting on policies about complicated matters."

And direct democracy isn't terribly prevalent. Representative democracy, however, is based on electing representatives who are either themselves more knowledgeable or who can talk to (or employ) those who are on a whole range of subjects. And even on this count, I would argue we generally need to work on finding ways around our biases to make better selections.

"Either learn to deal with these topics as part and parcel of community life or prepare to be frustrated a lot."

You think my options are "live with it" or "be frustrated?" I choose the third option, to advocate for improvement, to advocate for greater education where it makes sense in the public sphere (such as economics), and to advocate for systems of government that are more resistant to direct action on matters that are likely to be adversely affected by common misunderstandings.
I'll be releasing one in the next few weeks. A while back, I decided to not use the HN software, so I rolled my own. I could use some alpha testers. So, if you're interested, ping me at iamelgringo at google's email service, or just reply to this comment, and I'll email you when I launch.
Indeed. I read the book, and was struck by how effective it is as an inoculation against fundamentalist libertarianism.
2. Add to that Steve Reich and his Music For 18 Musicians.

3. I've never been particularly fond of Bach. His music's technically incredible, but it doesn't grab at me emotionally.
I'm a big fan of Knuth. I haven't purchased any of his Art yet, but I do have an Amazon gift certificate in reserve...
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They just had a new release for .9 so they are on the way. The nice thing about Django is the reusable aspect of the apps. (login, etc...)
Voting is probably the easiest way to quickly express your (dis/ap)proval with little effort, especially when the comment is so obviously insightful or stupid.

Your analogy is a bit extreme, and I wouldn't mind people knowing whom I up/downvoted.
The site is in English, right, so I am not sure why this matters?
MS wasn't penalized for using their desktop profits to subsidize entry to a new market. They did that with the XBOX without antitrust issues.
Actually, this is very easily gamed:

1. Fire up Chromium in incognito, and once you've voted once, just close it again and open it again to vote once more. Rinse and repeat.

2. The ip choice is smart, but there are ways to get a dynamic ip every [insert time interval].

One could perfect this to an art really. Get your ip to start changing, have Chromium open on a hotkey, use ctrl+shift+n to go incognito (or just have it auto-load in incognito), have the poll set as your homepage. You can clock alot of votes this way.

Logins are best.
Wow, I speak for everyone on the site now? Awesome.

Anyway, I don't get the anti-socialism arguments. Thanks to socialism, the US has a road network that allows anyone to drive from any one point in the country to any other. Everyone has Internet access. There is 3G service practically everywhere. You can ship a package today and have it show up anywhere else in the country tomorrow. (OK, maybe not tomorrow. Monday.)

We didn't get that because of everyone looking to make a quick buck for their own personal gain, we got there because of capital influx from the government and from sane regulations.

Capitalism works pretty well too. The financial industry gambled their own hard-earned money on risky securities, failed, and bailed themselves out. Oh wait, no. The government bailed them out.

YC used to be Rand-friendly, and had a capitalist slant since the start. Has the population changed?

Really? My account is 902 days old, and yours is 297.

HN has a optimistic outlook. The reality is that you are as likely to get rich from your Twitter mashup as the banks were to profit from interest-only loans. The unifying factor is that "I am probably going to be lucky, unlike everyone else" attitude. That is not capitalism, though, just human nature.
I owe him no such thing, nor did I attack him. I spoke of my own state of mind, that his comment made me think he was dishonest; I did not say that he was.

Saying things like that makes me think you're a sophist.

See?
An example of a site that doesn't require you to login to vote that's widely used is PollDaddy.

Sadly, it's extremely easy to game it. See http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=913966
Most people, I believe, downvote because they do not agree with someone's opinion.

If they do, they're doing it wrong. Downvote someone for not contributing to the discussion.
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Although the authors makes some good points on some of the advantages of not minifying code, it is always a best practice to do so. The errors that are common during minification of JavaScript mostly relate to ... yes you guessed it, is automatic insertion of missing semi-colons by the JavaScript interpreter. Hurt your feelings and jslint your code before you push it into production, compressing code after this step is normally less error prone.
One could perfect this to an art really. Get your ip to start changing, have Chromium open on a hotkey, use ctrl+shift+n to go incognito (or just have it auto-load in incognito), have the poll set as your homepage. You can clock alot of votes this way.

If someone's willing to go to that far of an extreme to game a vote, I don't think a login system would do much to stop them either. You can just as easily create new accounts with the new IP and a fake email address.
I always find opinions like these to be illuminating whenever people claim that people don't care about karma, as it's obviously just a silly number in some computer running this website. As it turns out, some people find losing just 1 point to be indistinguishable from throwing a rock at the person.

For what it's worth, the downvote is for the comment, not the poster. It influences a sorting algorithm that shapes the way people read as well as serves as a signal for how the community feels about a given post. The value of this signal is debatable, but that's the point.

When I personally down-vote your comment, it's because I think you're wrong or your post is of zero or negative value (spam, noise, etc), and it really has nothing to do with your worth as a person (or any desire to hurt you).
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Downvoting is there to bury spam, swearing, bad behaviour, objectively false information, etc.

Some people downvote to bury opinions they disagree with, which isn't good, I agree.
Ask the submitter: Why don't you get a blog?

Edit: OK, I will answer the question. People downmod to get people to convince themselves to go away. Imagine I don't like your viewpoint, and you place value on imaginary points I can take from you. I take those points, you get upset, and you stop posting stuff I disagree with.

That's all there is to it; reinforcing groupthink.

Similarly upmods encourage people to keep submitting. Knowing that people like your work encourages you to make more.
Not really.

The difference is that with a login method, it takes significantly more effort and time. This is pretty straightforward once you have it setup.
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People downmod swearing? That's fucking stupid.
RE Bach: to each their own. I find counterpoint to be really emotionally powerful, and I think that's the root of what grabs me in Bach.
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The last guy says you have to start with an intuition, and then prove it.

But I think you can start with the proof, and an intuition can come to you along the way. It's just that it probably won't be about that proof.
We're now talking about the author of the comment and not the comment itself. Can we stop?
At http://tagdef.com I let users both add content and vote without login in. It uses IP-addresses for keeping track of votes.

This has all the flaws that other people here have pointed out (multiple users behind same IP etc), but I feel that the advantage of being easy to use is greater than these disadvantages. It serves it main purpose (most of the time), of putting good content on top (see e.g. http://tagdef.com/ff) and hiding bad content.
And I'm sorry, but I just couldn't resist that.
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Allow people to vote as many times as they want (allow them to click as many times). Normalize voting patterns based on items of known qualities, and account for the fact that people know you'll do this. Then let people click as many times as they want and you just might get accurate results if done right.

Btw, I have not tested this. Use this at your own risk.