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> But I'm also capable of rational thinking on the matter instead of diving into immediate hyperbole whenever the word "police" are brought up.

Unfortunately, on the interenets, hyperbole wins. I just flag articles with discussions that have gone off the rails like this.

Also: http://ordrespontane.blogspot.it/2014/07/brandolinis-law.htm...
I strongly disagree. I think that laws should be enforced 100%. If we (the society) wouldn't like that, it means that our laws suck, and need to be changed.
When I said "nothing interesting", it means that I don't have an open source project people are using, and I am not a massive contributor. However, I have some ELisp code to help me write Python a bit faster, a contribution in the Rust language - I dabbed with Rust once, stumbled into a problem, asked on IRC and they told me "oh, it's a bug, add this one line here and push it" - and couple of other stuff, so while it doesn't make me a top coder, I hope it proves I am someone curious and it would give the interviewer extra stuff to ask ("I see you that played with Rust, what do you think of it?"), just as the presentation said, but sadly that didn't happen.
I think if there's a lesson to be learned, one-size-fits all treatment of people is the dehumanizing factor.

That implies that there are people to whom this treatment would be appropriate, effectively saying that it's OK to dehumanise some people but not others. That's not true. It's not OK to dehumanise anyone, ever, regardless of what they're accused of or even what it's been proven that they've done. Dehumanising behaviour not only affects the victim but the whole of society. Living in a culture that deems it normal to treat other human beings badly changes the way that everyone thinks.

There is a one-size-fits-all approach: Treat everyone well.
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I used to be a police officer in Scotland, and that's pretty much exactly what we do here.

The "rifling through belongings" is to stop people taking drugs or weapons, even improvised ones, into cells. This is especially important for the nice people who have suddenly been arrested for the first time - because it's when the cell door closes that they are at their most vulnerable and people can either self harm, attempt suicide, or take whatever drugs they happened to have on them. All of which the specific officers booking him in have a legal duty of care to prevent happening. You always leave your shoes outside the cell, you lose your belt, the drawstrings from clothes etc.

It's procedures honed out of years of "best practice" being identified from things going very wrong. Officers are often given very little discretion, because it saves them from themselves letting something go wrong.

Children and vulnerable adults (i.e. people with learning difficulties) get treated slightly better, but then they are also held to be less responsible for their actions.

If you think what happened to him was demeaning you really need to see what happens when someone with a history of drug addiction, self harm and assaulting the police comes into custody, it's a world away from what happened here.
I don't think most startups try anything valuable either but linking that to memory loss is a little far fetched.

I however do think that boring & non-challenging jobs can affect your health if they are done for over 10-15 years.
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>Why don't you outline how you think a typical booking should go for a person under arrest for B&E? You appear to have strong feelings on the subject, you keep raising how other countries do it. Bring your international expertise into the picture and outline how you must know they do a similar procedure in say: Ireland, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Thailand, South Korea, China and England?

Calmly and professinally. I've witnessed arrests in at least 2 of those places (and in general in England, France, Amsterdam (Holland) and Denmark). Not even comparable to things we see in the US.

Here are some examples:

1) People CAN and DO get out of their cars when a policeman stops them. They don't stay inside until he approaches out of fear they'll get shot as violent criminals no questions asked.

2) The British police don't even carry guns.

3) Tasering is something that simply almost never happens. Not something the police would use for the first wino or homeless person out in the street.

4) For most simple arrests you are not tied anywhere. You are just taken to the station were they verify your identity and/or temporarily hold you in a holding cell with others.

Plus, you keep mentioning B&E. Most cops are able to tell B&E with assault weapons by some thugs in a house from a nerd getting into a university lab for hacking, and treat each case accordingly.
Skype team blog co-announced Microsoft's intention to support WebRTC, so it shouldn't be that long till it has support.

Also, they've already announced the ability to run Android apps on ChromeOS (and Android now has Chrome as it's main browser). So some sort of merger has already happened (if you don't count both using linux + wekbit/blink + Google accounts & apps as enough of a merger already.

I think it's also weird to have "ChromeOS" as a seperate category in web stats. It's basically Chrome, which the stats will tell you is doing just fine, both on mobile and desktop.
>either my ISP or the Web site's ISP is not delivering what they were paid for, and I have a tough time believing that that would be common.

Believe it. It's happening today.

Internet plans are always advertised as "up to" some speed, which is a logically meaningless statement. 0 is "up to" 15.
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How would you cut the UK’s deficit?
Meanwhile, Palestine is still a colony of Israel but hey they don't have a nice TLD so who bothers.
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Based on current technologys and their numbers 5 kb/s to 5mb/s based on usage.

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Depending on how much you want to pay.

*speeds in bytes not bits
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I have a knife, I'm high on PCP, I just stabbed an old woman. You're a cop, you manage to arrest me without turning me into a bullet sponge while I was wildly swing my bloodied knife at you.

It takes you and six of your fellow police to bring me into the booking room. While there, I bite you (twice) and draw blood, kick you in the knee, dislocate one of your fingers and break your nose -- after spitting on you. I do about the same to the other officers.

While searching me you stab yourself on a used needle in my back pocket and I try to go for another knife in my boot. I induce myself to vomit on you then pull my pants off and defecate in the middle of the floor.

Please direct me to the comfortable chair I can sit quietly in while you ensure I can exercise my humanity while politely asking me my in-processing questions. At least until I get bored of answering them or get uncomfortable in any way, then we can take a 15 minute rest and stretch break. If I get too tired, I can go home.
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Lol, of course not, this is a prototypical SPOS (Single Point of Surveillance).
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I think you are vastly overstating the issue. The issue in the Jepsen post (http://aphyr.com/posts/293-call-me-maybe-kafka) requires a complex failure case to cause data loss. For most people using Kafka, a little data loss very infrequently, while still accepting writes, is acceptable. The alternative is to refuse all writes till the system is back. This in unacceptable for typical use cases. (See http://blog.empathybox.com/post/62279088548/a-few-notes-on-k...)
The problem is some laws will always suck, and those in power are either bad or idiots.

So one is a harder nut to crack.

Until we solve the "laws are now all good" problem, is better to have some breathing space ("at least we can bypass some").

To put it in another way, they estimate that each of us commits three felonies per day (from obscure BS laws, edge cases etc).

Not sure if accurate, but even if it's one per year, would you want to go to prison now for that shit in the hope that there would be some backlash and those laws will change?
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Why are you talking like it didn't happened yet?
Where exactly? I can't find it anywhere on this page https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Firefox/Developer_Editio...

EDIT: Aha, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8584207
I think we were talking about the print paradigm in general. I agree that it would be a false dichotomy where material is concerned.
What do you guys think of plain-text CVs?

I've seen this advocated in numerous places (including the link to Steve Yegge's blog in shoo's comment) but have never brought myself to send off a .txt file. I feel like some people could see it as lazy or rushed, despite having spent more time that I'd like to admit wording and rewording my CV.
My subjective value judgement can still be better than yours, and its degree of truth will be seen in the years to come.

The only concept you need to understand to get the truth of my statement is _order_.

A "meaningful and important" job is an opportunity to impose your own kind of order on the outside world. You will instinctively know this, as a human being, when you are in this state.

On the other hand, you will just as instinctively know when your job is to actually generate disorder for the rest of us, dragging everyone else down with you so you can get some small scraps from self-absorbed "important people", because you've given up on aiming for anything more significant.

All the people you talk about have chosen their nation's culture as their canvas, shaping the thought of wide swathes of the population of the United States.

In contrast, everything TechCrunch is known for is a gossip rag that is only read by desperate or clueless startup types whose content is generated by inner circles of bullshit work generators whose claim to fame is simply creating a vanishingly small fraction more noise on Ethernet, fiber optic, the 2-5GHz spectrum, and a few VC bank account numbers.

You tell me what kind of influence you'd rather have.
Of course.
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Perhaps rather some [travelling/living abroad needed]?
Wonder if this will have any effect on the CMU campus there. That was a really unique place to go to school to. Maybe they can collaborate somehow?
MSFT are impressive in their own way. They don't have the flashy flair and most of the stuff MSFT seem to want us to be impressed by isn't. What I think makes them impressive is staying power, long term endurance. They can weather a poor product, tweak it and get to good years after anyone is interested in talking about it. The backwards compatibility culture is part of that. They can keep up a steady pace uphill or downhill and get there. That's impressive.

That said, I think Microsoft is very committed to a bunch of paradigms that are real losers. A windows machine, more than any of the "computers" that we have around us seem to be made for use by individuals under supervision and control of IT, in the school or office. I think that's a loser paradigm. The "personal" part of computers is important. I think it works better, and that is relevant in education.

The paradigm is hard to kill because it helps them negotiate with school systems and work systems. Microsoft's marathon endurance for dealing with persistent hairiness lets organizations maintain their fragile ecosystems of servers, applications, permissions and such. These might be necessary, but they also pressure Microsoft into building a "faster horse" (to butcher the Ford cliche).

Unless they can manage to put below median users in charge, I think they'll ultimately lose the education market.

I don't know who will "win" but I think there's an inherent advantage to anything self sufficient and sell sustained, things that don't require a "roll out" or where the roll out is small and contained. Microsoft can do that stuff and I wouldn't even say it doesn't play to their strengths, but I would say it doesn't play to everyone else's weaknesses.
> *speeds in bytes not bits

Then you should use the correct metric prefix, kBps, not kbps. It would save you from having to give unnecessary explanations.
99% of people (if not more) do nothing of significant value for the human race. The wealth they create, the value of the product they produce, and the experience they gain all dissipate or become meaningless in the medium to long term. Value for the human race is not a very good criterion to decide whether what you do is bullshit. If you need a purpose in life, get children.
What’s the difference from your current ISP in this regard?

To avoid surveillance you need to use a secure protocol like TLS, but even then the attacker might access the server on the other end (e.g. via physical access).
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> Not sure if accurate, but even if it's one per year, would you want to go to prison now for that shit in the hope that there would be some backlash and those laws will change?

Well, yeah, obviously. In a year, everybody would be in jail, so I assume that, "yes", the laws would change. That's the point: if even absurd laws are 100% enforced, we'll soon realize how absurd they are, and repeal them!
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This comes to mind: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000020.html

"what happens is that they give their program to a journalist to review, and the journalist reviews it by writing their review using the new word processor, and then the journalist tries to find the "word count" feature which they need because most journalists have precise word count requirements, and it's not there, because it's in the "80% that nobody uses," and the journalist ends up writing a story that attempts to claim simultaneously that lite programs are good, bloat is bad, and I can't use this damn thing 'cause it won't count my words."
The food you have in your plate is coming from "bullshit jobs", you know ?
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You're missing a third option: "I give a lot to society at large (of which I am part), out of enlightened self-interest (reinforced by legal penalties if I act short-sightedly)."

Some people will thrive no matter what: centuries of warlordism, robber barons, gangsterism and piracy prove that.

But most people who make a lot of money -- whether from a well-paid job, running a successful business, or a fruitful investment portfolio -- can only do so, and can only enjoy the benefits of doing so, with the support of the trappings of a modern civilised society. E.g.:

- a settled body of law, with a justice system to enforce it

- a more or less ordered and peaceful society

- a more or less stable currency

- civil infrastructure, including transport, utilities and communications

- public health (private medicine will only go so far in protecting the rich in a society rife with infection; plus employees and customers dying of preventable conditions is bad for business)

- public education (all but the most menial jobs require at least basic literacy and numeracy, and most require significantly more)

- some kind of safety net for the poor (impoverished people make poor customers, and angry young impoverished people can get a bit handy at the barricades)

These cost money.

The rich get to be rich, and to enjoy their riches, because of the taxes they (and everyone else) pay, not in spite of them.
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a) spent most of your reply talking about non-sequitur topics again. Here's a pony. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6a/Sh...

b) #4 that's not true everywhere, even in the U.S.

c) didn't answer the question. How should it work?

d) "Most cops are able to tell B&E with assault weapons by some thugs in a house from a nerd getting into a university lab for hacking, and treat each case accordingly." That's what it looks like to me. They didn't have a group of cops there to subdue Aaron in case he got wild, or any other escalation procedure. They made him "mildly uncomfortable" at best.

If standing in one place for half an hour is some kind of dehumanizing terrible treatment, then the DMV should be on trial for war crimes.

Look, I get it, you don't like the police at all. You get all kinds of bent out of shape whenever they do any minor part of their job except greet you. But you're attempting to draw a fantasy picture here that simply doesn't exist.

The simple fact of the matter is, sometimes things go smoothly, sometimes the police have to tussle. They optimize for the tussle. That's why you see half a dozen police subduing a taxi driver in London during a protest, or Garda blocking in an ongoing arrest with cars. It only takes a guy throwing a chair during his booking a couple times before future suspects are put behind glass. Only idiots invite harm. The police may be brutes, but they aren't stupid.
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>Have you been arrested and booked in most Western Countries in Europe? I've actually been in police stations in a few countries (not under arrest) and they all look about the same.

No, I've actually seen people being arrested in several Western Countries in Europe (and in the US). And have been in a couple of police stations (and many more in my home country, were we also go for bureacratic reasons, like getting some permits, passports, etc).

>What exactly, in your imagination, do you think police stations look like? A comfortable memory foam massage chair and complimentary espresso bar while a soft voice introduced them to their customized "arrest experience"?

About that memory foam massage chair. Here is a prison in Norway compared to a US prison:

http://theday.co.uk/politics/lessons-in-law-from-world-s-mos...

Check out images from Swedish, Danish, Swiss, German etc prisons. The worst are perhaps the French ones, and even them can be better than US conditions.

Oh, and yes, some arrests involve coffee with the interoggator and soft voices. Especially for high profile persons, which would include someone like Aaron.
> Meanwhile, Palestine is still a colony of Israel but hey they don't have a nice TLD so who bothers.

The relationship between Palestine and the IANA is not very similar to .io and the Chagossians. Palestine has two TLDs—.ps and .فلسطين—that are managed by a Palestinian—not Israeli—naming authority, PNINA. As such, using the Palestinian TLD is considered[1] a mark of solidarity with the concept of a Palestinian state, not a reminder of, or the exploitation of, a forced exile.

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That makes little sense - what is the connection between Net Neutrality and Republicans winning in 2016? As issues go, this is a pretty minor one - economics, healthcare, immigration and foreign policy are way ahead. About 99% of the population don't even know what net neutrality is about, and of those who know what the words mean majority probably don't know enough about how ISPs and network interconnections work to make informed opinion about it (I have read a lot about it and I am still not sure if it's a good idea or not). Internet is not doomed either way, sky is not falling, please do not drink the Kool-Aid. As for Republicans, they are traditionally opposed to many measures expanding government regulatory power, so claiming they oppose it just because Obama is for it is plain wrong.
Im with you in spirit, just a thought or two....

"Powers that be have always treated people outside the system as sheep."

Isnt it that people inside the system are sheep? People outside the system are considered renegade, some how dangerous to the system, and there for the enemy? People inside the system are implicitly going along with the system, and while they do, no problem.

And if you try to fight from with in the system, the system is designed to quickly put the threat you pose down.

How that applies to Aaron, I dont know. Was he inside or outside? And frankly, is there a difference these days? Cant help thinking that one of the big illusions these days is the notion that one is off grid, outside the system, and not part of it. The system seems to know no boundary and we are part of it no matter what we want or choose.
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Ok, then let's kill 99% of the people on this earth. Oh no, where did our civilizations go?

Having long term impact that is noticeable is good and should be everyone's goal. But being this confused about value is what leads to shit like this.
We need a name for the "bullshit job provides food on your plate" fallacy. The productivity enhancement from the division of labor and technological advancements provides food on our table, the "bullshit job" is just there because we haven't figure out how to destroy it without hurting people.
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Ok, you are literally equating food production, which includes agriculture which led to humans being able to support groups bigger than a circus troupe, with "bullshit job." Got it.
No, read again what I wrote. The food you get is coming from people who do bullshit jobs, since Farming is probably bullshit in the eyes of the poster I referred to.

If you want to start destroying bullshit jobs, reducing the amount of administration and civil servants is a good place to start, because it's a whole additional layer of friction for everything else in society.
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