skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
How about having the scores show up after a week (or X amount of time). Practically nobody votes on week-old posts, but I often use -- for example -- searchyc.com's average points per post to get a feel for a user's contributions.

That would balance the elimination of mob voting with being able to ascertain (historical) credibility.
It's interesting - I manfully tried for a bit, but my interest in voting seems to have evaporated with the numbers. Like tc, I often vote to "balance out" as much as to "join the mob".

My prediction: comment voting will drop precipitously.
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Just as an alternative idea - why not colour the score to the background colour - that way it is effectively invisible, yet can still be seen by highlighting the heading.

Although that being said, I tend to gloss over the scores anyway for the most part...
Reminds me how my Ubuntu wireless stopped working because an automatic update installed a new and broken driver. Ah and all the songs on my ipod were deleted without warning because I had plugged it into "the wrong" computer.

Seems nothing is ever going to save us from ignorance and complexity. There's no escape, at least when it comes to operating systems.
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I think the two obvious metrics are volume of comment votes and average comment score. I don't know which way you would want those two to go though.
No, star rating systems generally average. The GP's proposal is not the same.
Yes I've had this idea before too. I also think that the votes should be applied to the score in reverse order of the time at which they were made. This means that those who vote earlier end up having more effect on the final score, rather than none at all, as would be the case otherwise.
If the standard deviation in comment scores decreases, that indicates more people are voting in disagreement with the majority, which is probably the intended purpose.

I believe pg has in the past just used "this seems better/worse" as a metric, but it's hard to say how noticeable any change from this will be.
Well, considering the G1's camera is about as terrible as it can get on a smartphone, I can't imagine another phone missing out on the Google Experience for that, but I completely understand your point. But at the same time, if you consider the G1 as a "baseline" set of requirements, do you really want manufacturers putting out anything less? It's already more-or-less commodity hardware available or $100 or less from the carrier, so there's not much incentive to skimp any further without destroying the UX.
"last.fm is still 100% free."

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Evan Ratliff wrote an interesting/informative article about the drug Provigil re: staying alert and focused.

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My response is different. I find I'm voting more, without being able to "balance out" I am now tending to vote up more than before. I'm also downvoting more, though that hasn't changed as much as the upvoting.
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Great achievement. Some may argue dropbox is a feature rather than a business, something Windows / OS X should do out of the box. And indeed they should, but they don't (not nearly that well anyway). But as soon as the success of DropBox is evident, I think we can expect the next version of OS X to have a "dropbox" that's part of their mobile me strategy, and MS to finally push out this feature aggressively. After all they are both after recurring revenues of this sort. Let's hope they buy DropBox before then.
That's basically what happened with me, except that I didn't wait to hit the 40 hours.
I remember a couple of discussions that were headed that way; then they reasonably enough shifted to email, so I don't know whether they went through.
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Overall I agree with you, but I think this will be an interesting experiment, I want to see what happens.
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Yup, just hang up: it's not as rude as they're being to you. As for the unwanted emails, I set up Gmail filters to forward emails back to the sender (and delete the original) if I don't want to hear from them. Most of the time, I think they assume the message bounced, even though it's not a bounce message. I suppose additional mischief could be made by forwarding the email to everyone at that company, or to a rival recruitment agency, etc.
He is supposed to be a marketing guru, isn't he?
That depends on how you define "bad quantification".

Bad as inaccurate quantification is worse than none.

Bad as rough, but roughly accurate is better than none.
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Uninteresting! Financially oriented issues like these don't bother me at all. Who needs so much money these days when everything (services, hard- and software) is so damn cheap. I don't need anybody investing in our venture. I've got a part time day job which supports me at least up to the RMS standard of living. Who cares about all this bloated so called financial infrastructure. This is just distracting and I don't get it. Create something you love first - if you need some money beyond that for investing in your infrastructure or the likes then do the good old credit card bootstrapping. Should be enough. Don't hire people do it together with some capable people you trust and like to be with. I thought this place would be more about hacking than plain old "dirty" money. P.S. sorry for OT ranting but I couldn't resist, pipe to /dev/null if you please
Trolls don't normally make good points. In a way you illustrate the point being made:

but according to his own statements he doesn't write enough Perl to really know it. He just sprouts lots of opinions on things he don't know

From the point of view of a professional programmer as simpler language like Lua takes hours to learn. What you loose is the power of expression, however for a novice one doesn't perhaps want this power. For example if I were writing a platform for photographers, I wouldn't choose a perl as an extension language: it depends on the audience.

Don't get me wrong I've written perl in commercial environments since 1994, and privately before that. Goladus makes a good point.
For me, comment rankings also serve to verify the correctness of my thoughts about the article or a previous comment. I believe this is completely normal and reflects the ability to doubt yourself. The fact that I initially think a story or comment is valuable, does not mean it actually is valuable: I may be wrong. As there will usually be comments reflecting different sides of the issue, I need to know what the community thinks the value of these comments is, relative to each other.

20 Points for a comment 'supporting' my position and 20 for a comment arguing 'against' my position indicate that I shouldn't be too certain, but that my position is (probably) at least rational.

20 Points for a comment 'supporting' my position and 1 for a comment arguing 'against' my position is an additional sign that I am probably on the right track.

1 Point for a comment 'supporting' my position and 20 for a comment arguing 'against' my position is a clear sign that I may have missed something and should read that comment carefully.

I really dislike this change.
Surely the content is the best indicator of context, class, and quality? If you feel lost, perhaps you were relying too much on others to judge an opinion for yourself?
Ability to:

- filter news by date
- order by no. of comments
- order by poster's rating

eg I want to see the most discussed stories of last week (yeah I don't have time to check HN every day, sorry!)
Very cool. Paper cube would compliment this http://papercube.peterbergstrom.com/

It's a visualization of scientific papers, their references, and their referees.
London used to be overrun with vineyards a couple of hundred years ago. Since then it's dramatically cooled. Things change all the time. Chill out, they sky's not falling.
Categories or Tags (Python, JavaScript, Physics, etc...) so I can refine by them.
I got a hat. I treasure that hat like it were my first born.

Its amazing how much more highly I think of them for basically just throwing out hats.
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I've thought about this before, and the ideal place to do it would be via a linkedin application. It would make it much harder to game and most recruiters are already on it.
There are part of computer science and engineering dealing with well defined problems. then it is easier to judge solutions to problems by proofs and test cases. Whoever can't prove their code is right or writing test cases are really criminal in their professions.

But there are another part of computer science and engineering dealing with fuzzy requirements or unknown problems. I don't see any better way to explore that area except trials and errors and the scientists and engineers have to face possible charges of "piss-poor", unethical, criminal and evil for the consequences of their solutions.

I feel that you have a very clear dichotomy of moral system. Unfortunately I deal with fuzzy things daily and see the harms of dichotomy in creating new stuffs and burning through money without any fruit of labor. It is easy for you to improve existing technologies because you can define criteria for improvements. But it is so hard in underfunding web startups that you can't expect in advance what a new solutions will be to users unless you make it and test it with them.

If I need someone to preserve and maintain existing software systems, because specifications and use cases are well defined, people like you are well fit for the task. But if someone has a new idea to solve a new problem that no one solved before, I would rather to see an unsophisticated solution first to test against the problem and start from there, and I am ready to rewrite the system when the problem becomes clearer.
Your Rhino example isn't creating a closure, is it?
That's the entire premise behind this site: popular items become more visible. There just isn't enough time to go through all the content; it's much easier to learn the site's bias & compensate.
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Quote from the end of the article:

“Will a company be able to operate completely on these games? No,” Mr. Yoshida said. “After all, we’re talking about the kind of games people make sitting in a cafe with a laptop.”

A person sitting in a cafe with a laptop might be able to operate completely, though.
Anything where lower-cost software on commodity hardware could replace very expensive hardware that is commonplace:

e.g. Routers
As I understand things, this was a change from last year, specifically because some of the teams rejected the terms that they were given in the past.
I learned all the jquery I need from the jquery reference manual and C-u (view source.)

It's one of the most self-evident, most obvious APIs you will ever see.

jquery + firebug is an acceptable Lisp.
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When I was a child, my father got the Pinto. even though it is a unsafe car as we knew later. But in a then poor Taiwan, it is like a luxury and it helped him to do his job.

Here is an argument against Ford Pinto case
http://www.pointoflaw.com/articles/The_Myth_of_the_Ford_Pint...
Exactly the problem. Android users are mostly technical enough to make things like this work. They don't need anyone to host a service for them.

(And GTalk is about as true "push" as you can get, so this is fine implementation-wise; it doesn't use much battery, and you get instant notifications.)
I'd say the most obvious metric would be whether it evens the distribution of comment scores.
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First, Godalus implied that he knew what he was talking about regarding Perl, until it was pointed out that he didn't. Then he changed story.

Edit: I might also add that Godalus' second code example modified an array inside an append to the array -- inside two tight loops... I've only seen things like that in obfuscations. (It could be extreme optimization -- but with a few earlier versions in comments or cvs/subversion/git/etc.) Tell me THAT code choice is not trolling...?

Edit: Removed the rest, which has been written by multiple people in this thread.
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"Best indicator" are not the words I would have used. Like other (all that I know of, in fact) voting systems on popular social sites, Hacker News' is biased in favor of comments that repeat the established, arrive early, and are written by popular authors. All criteria which are subtly different from quality of contents.

My first comment was http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=739112
Being my first intervention on HN, I thought I would be able to post anonymously so I included my name at the bottom of the post. The first reply (which, I admit is polite, well written and from a relatively famous person in this community, although not completely on-topic with respect to the article originally linked) got upvoted above ten. My comment, which revealed a lesser-know but true fact strongly related to the original article, with reference to an experiment that you can reproduce at home, was upvoted twice or something like that.
Actually everyone should just try it out for a little while instead of instantly judging the change.

I agree with PG, HN started to have mob feel in the comments section.
You don't have to rearrange govt funding priorities to get nukes built.

True. But it would help everyone else if western governments being so nice to the (massive, rich) oil industry. The best non-oil technologies would benefit the most, like they should in a competitive market.
Encrypting passwords protects against insider attacks also, so it would still be a benefit.
First I would decide if you really need to form one in Delaware (unless you are based in Delaware of course). You can fill out the LLC paperwork in most states in 30 minutes and then you are just out the filing fee.

If you have partners though make sure you hire a lawyer so you have all the correct agreements in place.

Also, make sure you talk to your accountant as you might want to elect S-taxation for the LLC.
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Google most likely doesn't that care much; it's not their email account being terminated. They go through the proforma requirement that a judge sign off on or require whatever, then stick it to their customer since it's no longer their fault.
I actually expect that posts may become more extremely negative than they used to. At some point, you become sorry for a person with a highly negative comment; or at least I do. Sometimes I upvote comments that are negative because I think that the downvotes are unreasonable. Now there's no way for others to provide a check on the immoral downvoting behavior of others.
This is probably a weird idea, but almost all my dieas are weird ideas hey this is HN! Here goes.

I would (a) (pay decent money to get a brilliant designer to) design a new model with a powerful hardware base(nice camera, graphics card) (b)radically clean up the software platform, paying attention to well designed graphics apis and controllers (c)give away an upgrade to the new platform to anyone who turns in an old model and then start working on the next hardware AND sw in ONE package device. (d) Build an appstore that caters to apps only for this new model (Have a better approval process than Apple, shouldn't be very hard to do!).

Plan to release ONE model every two or three years or so. Pay more attention to the Indian and Chinese markets (they sell many more phones than the American market - most plans are not tied to a device and people are used to buying undiscounted phones).

This instantly creates a mass of customers standardised on a single platform with identical device capabilities (this is the biggest advantage of the IPhone, there are at most one or two device/sw combinations to program for. the RIM hardware/sw combos are all over the place and the graphics suck badly).

yeah ok that probably makes no financial sense. But that's what I'd consider doing if I were an executive at RIM (which is probably a good reason I am not a high paid manager :-P).

RiM can dominate the "business mobile" marketplace if they play their cards right.
I do it in a live production environment and it can often give you a nice adrenaline flush. I do occasionally fat-finger things, so I try to avoid it.
Yes, this works for me.
Except that it could have ended up, possibly along with the original email, in a never read spam folder. Google has more direct means of reaching an account holder.
I don't want to sound like a Mac fan boy here, but if (when) things like this happen the Genius Bar will help you right out. I know there have been cases where they don't help, but they're good for 90% of the problems that come in.
Source: http://www.viemu.com/a_vi_vim_graphical_cheat_sheet_tutorial...

That's the tutorial that fed me that chart in easy-to-manage pieces, easing me into vim nicely.

Also highly recommended, the rant by the same guy: http://www.viemu.com/a-why-vi-vim.html
If I knew that someone were qualified to talk about whatever we're discussing, I'd be more inclined to upvote them.
Wow, I had no idea you could bulk-insert that easily! Thanks for sharing
Sounds like they need to make their terms public in the same way YC does: http://ycombinator.com/seriesaa.html
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I really wish I could find a Linux 1.2 that was just updated for new hardware and bug-fixes; hell, even an updated Windows 98 would be better than the current alternatives (including Ubuntu which is a royal pain).
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"some of the teams rejected the terms that they were given in the past."

If some startup founders rejected 50,000 Euros and great advisers, for a 5-10% share , there is something broken in the model. At least from the pov of the (vetted, chosen) people doing the rejecting if 50,000 Euros is not providing enough value they ae well within their rights to reject it.

Fixing the broken parts may pay off more than making arbitrary rules that people have to accept whoever puts up 50k Euros. This is like saying people have to accept jobs because "we put so much effort into interviewing you". Such rules are probably unenforceable anyway and make the proposers look like idiots.
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I think that the .NET users warming up to open-source is an important first step, but I don't believe Microsoft can act against its own interests by making a true commitment to open-source.

Free Software has, indeed, ideological connotations. I strongly advocate for the freedoms it defends and also for the "giving back" attitude it obliges. Free Software, by its very definition, stays free. There are no such warranties in he rest of the open-source space. OS is useful, but I don't think it's enough.
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I don't look at the score to understand a comment, I look at the score to understand the community response to a comment. To me there is just less information now.
I don't know if this visualization is really useful for those who know that

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I anticipate that one effect of this will be that there will be more threads simply saying "I agree" or "Good comment" since this will no longer be so visibly reflected by the voting.
"An entire generation of programmers grew up using GOTO <line number> to call subroutines and execute loops."

It was not that bad. In the end, it led to Windows.

Oh wait...

Now, seriously, we used GOSUB for subroutines.
the issue with almost every other than Windows OS is that there are limited community support. Most of the *X OS has good and straight support but only on certain places, MS may be has the most grasping marketing strategy - make people talk about his products everywhere and value them. This is valid not only for OS but for every product especially for programming languages and tools.....
Everybody can try to search issue on Mac/Unix/Linux and for Windows #.... Statistic is not result from fact that there are less issues on OS but talks how much people are familiar and actually using one OS.
I wrote "the ford pinto memo", not "the ford pinto".

The point wasn't whether the car was okay, it was about the amoral behaviour of the company. Ford crossed a line between wanting to produce something to a given spec; and depraved indifference to the damage the errors in the design would cause. It only sounds like a subtle difference.
Duly noted. Thanks again. The comment about adapting to your mood is in reference to how much weight we should give to your prior play history versus your current playing song. It sounds like you like the emphasis on the current song but want it to stay in the same genre until changed.
The noise is different but the signals are strikingly similar. That's a strong point in favor of the model IMO, but as I said this is a complex, subtle field in which I'm not an expert. Imagine how badly the popular media gets computer stories and think that we're making at least as bad a hash out of this whole field.
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