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TL;DR: guy gets a comment downvoted on HN and responds by accusing the downvoters of having an unhealthy lifestyle.

Is there any evidence that the average geek is less healthy than the average person?

Here's a link to the comment in question: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7763106
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To be honest, you're living on borrowed time. The only reason twitch would allow this is because it has flown under the radar so far. It's not a reasonable expectation that you can forever have a service that will let you stream copyrighted material to people.
>> The furthest time that can be represented this way is 03:14:07 UTC on Tuesday, 19 January 2038 (2147483647 seconds after January 1st, 1970).

I do hate bugs that only pop up at 3am in the morning.

As I understand it, the problem is more in the compiler/interpreter than in the storage medium. Say, your using mysql to hold an int field - to alter the storage allocation to include more bytes is simple, even trivial. It is the language which will need to be updated to understand that it is using an unsigned integer for the unix epoch.
If these are deployed in high population areas they are also being deployed in high-malaria areas. If you treat those with malaria while preventing mosquitos from reproducing you would hope that you would prevent the spread of malaria to those areas with low populations where mosquitos are left to reproduce.

The goal, after all, is to wipe out malaria — not necessarily to wipe out mosquitos.
I hope you're being ironic, because this attitude is exactly what the article is declaiming.
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Yeah, but male mosquitoes are pollinators, right?
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Not much need to make internal transfers - London and Hong Kong are two of world's largest financial centres so there's plently of local work to do and it's not exactly hard to collaborate with colleages in NYC from London when there's a good 4/5 hours a day of overlap when both offices are active.

Looking at salaries is misleading anyway - companies like Jane Street do most of their compensation as bonuses rather than salaries. Having worked in the proprietry trading world, salaries are generally on the low side, but your bonus can be anything from 50%-100% of your salary upwards. It differs a fair bit depending on what you do - a traders' bonus will be more volatile and pegged to their performance that year, a back office dev will propably have a more stable bonus year to year, but not as large.
I would buy one for my neighbours pond so I could once again sleep with the window open and I live in rural England.
I don't understand.

You claim that Soylent is a fun experiment. Soylent don't. Soylent claim that you can replace all your food with this forever.

When someone says "you can't live off Soylent" and someone replies that it's a fun experiment letting people know the lies and misrepresentations from the producers of Soylent is a valid response. Soylent is not being marketed as an experimental product woth some risk. Soylent is being marketed as a finished product that has health benefits.
Logic says that someone who spends more time in front of a computer is less healthy than someone who spends less time in front of a computer. I think it's solid enough logic that the onus is on you to provide evidence to the contrary. But hell, geeks should be able to find actual evidence; that's what geeks do.
From my extremely anacdotal experience I've found a number of people in the tech industry to be unknowningly living dangerous sedentary lives. It's easy to not realise how unfit you are when you're young, especially when your body bounces back relatively quickly and can adjust to change and stress appropriately.

Things start to look grim down the road though. The future is not kind to unprepared bodies.
Maybe, but the problem is what if you introduce mosquitofish and instead of mosquitos it decides that some other important insect is more edible.
A link to the post in question https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7763106

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say the downvotes are more for the claims of a miracle cure-all smoothie than for some sort of perceived self-promotion.
Of course geeks have unhealthy lifestyles, a lot of us don't go outside and eat a lot of junk food. Sitting in the dark in front of a computer is not an activity that promotes health. This article is worthless anyway though because the guy got downvoted for posting a video of himself, not for being unhealthy, and also the guy's solution is an "antioxidant smoothie" which is pure unadulterated nonsense.
I don't know about America, but our university here in UK just received a huge, 15 million pound grant to open another 11 PhD positions in Big Data Analysis, fully funded by Red Hat - and they practically guarantee a job afterwards, a well paid job. I am doing something completely unrelated, but I have to say that a prospect of job security for 4 years and then a good job afterwards is very enticing.
I would say I'm not very healthy myself. I drink a lot, eat lots of sugar, meat and fat. I have thought about eating more healthy and have tried for a little while a couple of times. However I always fall back to eating unhealthy.

The reason for this is that I like eating unhealthy food. It tastes great and gives me joy. I don't mind not growing as old as I could when eating more healthy. This is because I wouldn't enjoy my life as much when I would.
It would be welcomed if they lend to businesses that invest. But if consumer debt starts rising significantly you can be quite sure that it won't be long until regulators intervene.

The question is how you get businesses to invest when there is no one who can buy more stuff. This is going to be a slow economy for a very long time.
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It's nice to advocate healthy living but I really think you're looking too much into the reason why people may not have found your video particularly interesting. Though you raise a discussion on a topic that may be worth exploring, all you've done is stereotype an entire community - which you yourself are an active participant.

Keep in mind, this is a tech community - people that want better living & health advice will seek it out.
Instead of seeking that "evidence," consider this: is the average geek not supposed to be smarter than the average person? (Is this generality more acceptable because it's flattering? For that matter, is there any evidence of this, either? But for now, let's assume it's true.)

So on that assumption, which we grant temporarily, why then should we not expect these smarter people to make smarter lifestyle choices? Should we not expect geeks, in other words, to do better, not just the same as?

Or at the very least, to be armed with the correct information so that, when the time comes to make those choices, he at least recognizes when he is choosing poorly? Of course the real question is: how do we get people (smart people included) to choose wisely? This is the sixty-four thousand dollar questions.
> You seem incapable of discussing this issue in it's entirety.

You yourself said it's "too complex", so by your own admission, everyone is.

Also, it's kind of silly to say war against an oppressor, or for independence is good, without realizing that without an oppressor, it would not be necessary in the first place. E.g. while I am glad that the allies defeated Hitler, I am also aware that without his initial atrocities, that would not have been necessary. Same for fighting against the British.
Many SEO consultants have suggested that even if you get the links removed, you should still disavow them in order to help speed up Google's evaluation of the links profile.

In those instances, even if you think you are being a good guy, there's a good chance you are wasting the one resource you can never recover (time) in an attempt to help someone who is likely going to attempt harming you AND waste your time.
If this technique is shown to be effective and becomes popular amongst owners of small ponds I could imagine similar techniques being encouraged, or mandated, for any large body of still water in and around high-populations.
There are many different kinds of paywall. Some sites have early access to content and the ability to comment only for paying users.
Others have just one simple ad on the page, that is controlled by themselves, not a third party network.
I think you are both right and wrong.
I think geeks have a heard time hearing that they are wrong but I don't think that is why you were downvoted. Your comment looks extremely spammy. Firstly, it reads like one of those "This housewife lost gazillions pounds with this one secret trick. Click to find out more". Secondly, there are a lot of "do this one miracle thing and you will feel better/get thinner/whatever" miracle cures and most of them are bullshit. You claim your recipe is changing lives but what data do you have to back that claim other than a poorly conducted study (friends testimonies) on an extremely small sample size? Maybe we don't think you are a liar, but everyone pretending to be an expert and/or promoting some miracle cure has gotten really, really old.
What would be the point? (serious question).

I assume you are talking about the user-space utilities. Having them in Go on Plan 9 would not be the best idea at the moment, Go binaries are big, and while on Unix this is a non-issue, in Plan 9, where every binary has to travel over the network this is not the greatest idea. Perhaps Go binaries will become smaller in the future, but Go only exists on 386/amd64/arm at the moment, and on Plan 9 only the 386 port works. Plan 9 also works on MIPS and POWER, and it worked on SPARC and ALPHA and many others too, and you can still compile all the binaries for those architectures, in case you decide to write a new POWER8 or SPARC64 kernel. Plus there's an impedance mismatch between how Go does things and how Plan 9 does things, for example in the area of networking. I'm very happy with Go's networking on Unix, it's so easy to use and makes things so much nicer. It's very different than the Plan 9 model though, and on Plan 9 Go network programs don't fit right.

Having plan9port utilities in Go would also not be the best thing. I run plan9port on Irix. I ported Go to Solaris because I had plan9port working on Solaris. If plan9port depended on Go, I probably wouldn't have started the port.

All my arguments so far ignored the fact that the few people interested in Plan 9 are already very familiar with the C sources, and many of them don't even care about Go that much.

I really wish Go would fit better in Plan 9. I really miss Go when I have to write C.
Nope, not ironic.

But if your aim is to increase people's health, you're going to do a better job using accurate information.

The initial studies showing anti-oxidants have health benefits have struggled to be replicated, and new studies have shown anti-oxidants may be having negative health impact.

Edit: since a couple of people have asked, here's one fairly good source, there are others if you search. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22419320
Slower for a retaliatory strike, yes.

But if you are hitting first and by surprise, you might be able to coordinate around this limitation. Once the object is in the right place it has the delivery speed advantage.
An administrator doesn't have to be competent at science, perhaps the opposite might help make more pragmatic decisions. For example, a former particle physicist might have a spot in his heart for multibillion dollar colliders, whereas a former football coach might invest in school nutrition.

Somebodies whose work was 'artefactual' might very well understand exactly much (or rather how little) your work is worth.
Why would he be ironic? Consuming too many antioxidants have been tested and turn out to have some pretty ugly negative effects, just like too much of anything else at all.
Nothing against the idea of healthy eating or smoothies for that matter but it just may be the claims made in your post that made it read like a testimonial you see on fitness sites or fad diets that may have triggered the ire of the folk reading it. It's nothing personal, and please don't take it that way and for the record I'm going to try this out( but that's because I like smoothies).
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My wife has a PhD in nutrition and is also a dietitian, so I know a lot more than average about food and healthy eating.

It's gotten where I don't even click on the comments of any nutrition-related story I see on HN, because the volume of misinformation makes me sad.
That's what public funding of research work is for.

Basically, there's a continuum ranging from public research (i.e., high-risk, high-impact) to industrial research and startups (medium risk, medium-to-high impact) to common adoption (low risk, low impact).
Isolated quotation:

"We see our pasty, doughy, sickly selves in the mirror and somehow just deny the obviousness of the truth. We then armor ourselves against anything that might pierce our bubble of denial, so as to protect our inflated egos. I say "we" and "our" because I'm not so different, either. It's just that, for various reasons, years ago I saw the light re: health and fitness"

Isolated even further: "I'm not so different, either."
Well, they do seem to keep human numbers in check to some degree.
Claiming some kind of magic smoothie will improve your health is the type of health-nonsense we need less of, not more, it doesn't serve any purpose improving anyone's lifestyle. That's probably why you got downvoted into oblivion, not because 'average geeks' don't care about their health.

Mind you: I'm not saying your smoothie is not healthy, or that it doesn't matter what you eat or how you live. Just that blanket statements such as 'my smoothie has improved the life of everyone I introduced it to' is about as scientific as astrology or tarot cards, and IMO has no place on a site like this.
Care to show us such a test or study?
> Are you arguing that the thousands and millions of dead would not have died without warfare? Are they immortal apart from military conflict?

Are you arguing inventions are made out of greed and chauvinism more often than out of curiosity? Are you arguing they wouldn't have been made anyway, at some point?

> Without war however, we would still live under Feudal yokes or Patriarchal societies. War was required in many cases to establish the liberal democracy most of us exist in.

Same question.

Also, when you talk about "freeing slaves", you are missing that to capture a slave could be considered an act of violence, and therefore war in the widest sense.
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"50 ways that MIT has transformed computer science"

This is really misleading and makes MIT look bad. It's just spin.

MIT has done plenty of great work; there is no need to try to take credit for things that they really can't lay claim to.

Many examples elsewhere in the comments, but I'll throw in that Ethernet was not invented at MIT. I know the main title now says "MIT-related", but the article is not so modest.
person A uses a computer for 6 hours a day, person B uses a computer for 30 minutes a day, ergo person B is healthier.

This logic doesn't seem to be very "logical"
Thanks for linking to the comment in question. It starts with "I've been helping my family and friends with this recipe [... and I'm going to help you too.]"
This kind of behaviour is not dissimilar from religious groups that try to force their unproven believes upon other people. Even anecdotal evidence is provided. I'm pretty sure if he'd have written "I enjoy this kind of smoothie, and it makes me feel better." he would not have been downvoted.
one thing that has been working for me in my quest to at least slightly improve my health has been to try out fruits and vegetables and look for very simple 'recipes' that are delicious.

The reason is that I (and perhaps many other geeks) don't have much patience with 'physical' things. Eating is mostly an annoyance to me, I don't care about my looks that much, and I can often get so wrapped up in 'virtual' stuff that I forget how much I enjoy nature and the sun.

And at some point I figured rather than trying to 'cook properly' and give up, I should maybe start with simpler things. And that's been working pretty well.

Smoothies, for example, are quite easy to make. Or recently I developed an obsession with a very simple sandwich: bread, cheese, little bit of mayo, avocado, rucola and some salt and pepper. I wouldn't have thought it possible, but I love that stuff and eat it almost daily.

I'm nowhere close to having a proper, healthy lifestyle, but it's a start. And after three years of false starts it's quite a breakthrough!
Saddest part about that post was the implication that HN disavows self promotion.

Dude. HN is a hacker site. We build stuff -- build it, sell it, share it, talk about it. I've never threatened to leave HN but if I did, it would be if they had some policy banning self-promotion. This isn't some cute club of teenagers where you have to get a friend to submit a link and then the cool kids all have to like it. There are people, lots of people, who are supporting their families on the things they do and share here. Please. Self-promote. We'll downvote you if you get obnoxious, but that's about it.

I think the real problem was hinted at in the article: that sort of ranting I've-figured-it-all-out-you-bunch-of-fools attitude. Over the years, I've found the board very unfriendly to people who come in with a flame thrower laying waste to those they're trying to engage. Yes, you can certainly talk about how unhealthy we all are, been done a million times, but not so much on the miracle cures and how we're a bunch of ingrates who won't listen to reason. That's a good way to get a virtual punch in the nose.
Eating "healthy" doesn't necessarily mean your food has to be less tasty. In my bag for lunch today I have some leftover homemade vegetable lasagne, half a seabass, a nectarine, an apple, a banana and a handful of brazil nuts. I'd be very surprised if any of my teammates enjoyed their shitty sandwiches from the shop on the corner more than I enjoy what I have
I can recommend Ben Goldacre's "Bad Science" - I read this in book form, any time I see "anti-oxidant" in the context of nutrition I also start to engage full skepticism mode.

Here is an article from Bad Science pointing to a Cochrane Collaboration review of the effectiveness of anti-oxidants:

http://www.badscience.net/2008/04/cliff-richard-gloria-hunni...

Michael Shermer, the author of Why People Believe Weird Things, also had an interesting direct experience with nutritional pseudo-science:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_People_Believe_Weird_Things
My point was that your premise is based on something that we don't know. Perhaps the average geek is smarter than the average person (for some definition of smarter), but perhaps they're also healthier. We just don't know.

While I believe that you were genuinely trying to be helpful to the community by offering an easy way to be healthier, we are generally a suspicious bunch and when there are a number of claims made based on unsupported hypotheses, there's going to be complaints.

It's one thing to say: "I do this and it seemed to do good things for me". It's another to say "I do this and so should you".
Oh, we're going to play this game of "I post something, people critique it, I respond by being butthurt and missing the point of the downvotes because I couldn't hear a differing opinion" ? Because that's how it looks.

This just in, if you tell someone to eat/drink/consume a specific thing in their daily diet, they start to monitor their intake more closely. gasp. You also claimed it as fact, yet couldn't receive skepticism without needing to call attention to it (re g+ post).

I could throw the same argument back,

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Er, you're aware he was talking about WW2, widely regarded as the least pointless war of the past 100 years with the most clearly evil enemy?

He's not saying that surrender would have been a better option, rather that war is extraordinarily costly and people should not be misled by the lure of the "quick", "easy" or "just" war; and that the political system should try much, much harder to find nonviolent ways of progressing.
I'd suggest you to review the current science literature on this subject as it so far it's starting to look bad for proponents of the "You need more vitamins"-campaign.

Antioxidants Could Spur Tumors by Acting on Cancer Gene
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/343/6170/477.summary

Supplement Alert: Antioxidants May Protect Cancer Cells Instead Of Protecting Us From Them
http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2014/02/08/suppleme...
http://www.badscience.net/2008/04/cliff-richard-gloria-hunni...

That links to a 2008 Cochrane review.

Here's the updated review: http://summaries.cochrane.org/CD007176/antioxidant-supplemen...
I have 32GB of ram and this nearly caused my computer to lock up.
This is a video where I show how to use real food--fruits, vegetables, flax seeds, etc

One thing I do not understand is why would one take perfectly fine real food, such as fruits and vegetables, and then artificially blend them ... if the goal is healthier diet, please eat real food!

I'm not going to try the smoothie, but I guess that for me it would be a step down from a healthier diet to a less healthy one.
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I would be interested in knowing what wireframe tool do you use to make your UI/s.

Please give a link where possible and state if its free or paid?
At least in Chrome you sometimes see a notification in the lower left hand corner, something along the lines of "waiting for Adblock extension".
I thought he only liked hi-res ;)
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