I have been using Martini for over a year and we use it on our frontend API which has a non trivial number of endpoints, that contain a lot of code that has little to do with http routing (like I imagine most products do).

Yes, Martini is non-idiomatic magic. Specifically codegangsta's 200-line inject (https://github.com/codegangsta/inject) library is most of Martini's magic. I think inject is rather clever (I've begin using it other projects), while non-idiomatic, and is a pretty neat way of handling middlewares - which I think is the most important point.

In defense of Martini however I do appreciate that it leaves out boilerplate in many of my functions, and while my functions may look magical (who is calling this?), the routing setup and parameters provide a certain clarity. Concerning Stephen Searles post, I feel #2 & #3 are problems with the library specifically and not Martini's design. In #2, the default return handler doesn't check if the return value satisfies io.Writer, which it should, but the default return handler can be fixed or swapped by the developer to make sure io.Writer is handled appropriately. #3 can be seen as any issue when your router allows you to specify Regex routes, and with that you have to ensure your routes are valid Regex. If you don't like it, you can specify to not take advantage of it or do whatever the popular Gorrilamux does.

Now #1, is a tough one and overlooks what a lot of the other mini-frameworks have been trying to provide and what Stephen's muxchain doesn't provide - how do I manage all the various resources like database connections, config parameters, and the like. How can I write one "User" middleware, and provide the clients login details cleanly to my other middlewares and handlers? muxchain simply makes that the developers problem, so while it claims to provide everything Martini does, I don't really think it does. Gorrila (through Gorilla Context), stretchr's Goweb, Goji and others provide a `map[string]inteface{}.` Okay, so I still lose the type system, but now I have to litter my code with a ton of `realValue, ok := myMap["myValue"].(myType)`.

The only simple, type-safe solution I've seen to this problem is Gocraft's web (https://github.com/gocraft/web), which I discovered long after Martini, and is much faster. So far of the frameworks that have been developed because of the whining that Martini has too much magic, only Gocraft has a rather clever way of dealing with this problem.

Finally however, I'd imagine in most production applications the router is such a small part of the project I can't really suggest to someone that they should use Python+Twisted for their application if they like Martini. I can understand to a beginner or someone looking to learn Go, Martini may be poisonous, but in real, working, code I've rarely had to even think about Martini, and the rest of my code is fairly idiomatic and type safe.

In short, while I do think Negroni is a great project, I think the whole reflection/injection might be a little too blown out of proportion. We will have a better picture for Martini at the end of the day once the Go ecosystem matures but its a little bit premature to say we should stop writing new code with Martini.