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That's not the question; the question is whether those parts will form a greater whole.

I'm not the original poster, so I speak only for myself. Some of my "albums" (read: CDs) are just collections of songs, and that's fine. But some of the albums have coherency, stylistic similarities that don't just come from the artist (as other albums from the same artist will have different stylistic similarities in those songs), and other things that make these albums a bit more than just the sum of their parts. This doesn't just include the "concept albums", but even things that may sound like "just a collection of songs" at first but turn out to have a flow and coherency once you think about it.

If nothing else, there's an art to album arrangement. Like good editing, it might be easier to see if I gave an example of a very degenerate case than if I try to say what's good: If you release 6 happy songs and 6 sad songs, you don't want them to show up in that order, as that makes for a terrible break in the flow (it'll feel like two albums glued together); you want to mix them together, and even with the same 12 songs, the tone of the album can be somewhat manipulated just by the order of the songs. (Start and end on happy? Start and end on sad? etc.)

It's not just a matter of "my choice"; there's a matter of the artist's choice as well. This is a very fuzzy thing and it is perfectly possible to create a "mix album" with a bit of work that is itself a bit more than the sum of its parts, but there's still something to be said for an artist doing this deliberately.

(Besides, call me old-fashioned but I think that there's still a place for the concept album. The short form gets mined out easily, especially in the context of a single artist; giving a bigger canvas to a skilled artist can produce something genuinely different.)

I hope that people continue to produce albums and not just single, isolated tracks. (Of course, albums too could be serialized. And maybe that's all you meant, but I still wanted to point out this could be a problem in this bright new era. I'm not prone to complaining about new media but this is one place we could genuinely lose an entire art form, not just be quibbling about the smell of the book or something else that nobody under the age of 10 will ever miss in the future (my personal metric of fuddy-duddy-ness when it comes to complaining about new media).)
For a group that emphasizes thinking for oneself, it sure seems that there are a lot of rules for when it is or is not appropriate to vote on something. How about letting people decide for themselves what to vote on?
But... why are you going through the career portal anyhow...?

You've got someone (reid) here who's currently on the team, and me, who's leaving the team and creating the opening. We're giving you email addresses and offering to send your resume directly to the hiring manager.

It seems like you just want to complain. For the record, yes, Yahoo recruiters do review the applications submitted to the career portal, as well as resumes posted just about anywhere else. Maybe you're just bitter because you weren't hired?
If flags are only for "spams and really egregious trolling", it would be nice if there were some other way to bring deceptive titles needing admin edits to moderator attention.
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At what cost are you prepared to hold the "no bogus articles" line?

Some of the deletionists are very far into 'burning the village in order to save it' territory. I.e., they're so obsessed over "quality" that they'll snuff out anything that might even be the slightest bit questionable, erring on the side of removing things.

That strikes me as stupid and needlessly destructive. If bogus articles creep in, the solution is to correct them and move on.

The obsession over Wikipedia's "reputation" is likewise misguided. Unless the entire concept of "an encyclopedia anyone can edit" is abandoned, it's never going to be a totally reliable source, and users will always have to be cautioned to fact-check before depending on the information. Outside of the Wikipedia community, this is pretty much taken for granted.

The best compromise solution I can come up with would be to periodically 'fork' the WP articlebase, and let the deletionists go to town on the fork, honing it down into some subset of the working version, which users could then choose to browse if they wanted something with a slightly higher barrier to entry. However, my guess is that very few casual WP users actually care.
Some of my favorite parts:

"But health insurance is different from every other type of insurance. Health insurance is the primary payment mechanism not just for expenses that are unexpected and large, but for nearly all health-care expenses. We’ve become so used to health insurance that we don’t realize how absurd that is. We can’t imagine paying for gas with our auto-insurance policy, or for our electric bills with our homeowners insurance, but we all assume that our regular checkups and dental cleanings will be covered at least partially by insurance."

"For that matter, try discussing prices with hospitals and other providers. Eight years ago, my wife needed an MRI, but we did not have health insurance. I called up several area hospitals, clinics, and doctors’ offices—all within about a one-mile radius—to find the best price. I was surprised to discover that prices quoted, for an identical service, varied widely, and that the lowest price was $1,200. But what was truly astonishing was that several providers refused to quote any price. Only if I came in and actually ordered the MRI could we discuss price."

"By contrast, consider LASIK surgery. I still lack the (small amount of) courage required to get LASIK. But I’ve been considering it since it was introduced commercially in the 1990s. The surgery is seldom covered by insurance, and exists in the competitive economy typical of most other industries. So people who get LASIK surgery—or for that matter most cosmetic surgeries, dental procedures, or other mostly uninsured treatments—act like consumers. If you do an Internet search today, you can find LASIK procedures quoted as low as $499 per eye—a decline of roughly 80 percent since the procedure was introduced. You’ll also find sites where doctors advertise their own higher-priced surgeries (which more typically cost about $2,000 per eye) and warn against the dangers of discount LASIK. Many ads specify the quality of equipment being used and the performance record of the doctor, in addition to price. In other words, there’s been an active, competitive market for LASIK surgery of the same sort we’re used to seeing for most goods and services."
This seems like a good idea and a great deal if you're have an idea for a startup.

Though this has made me wonder about the value of working with an incubator that does take equity. In the case of Springboard, you don't have to give up any part of your company, but I think that there's substantial value if the incubator does have equity, as they have skin in the game from a financial standpoint.
Hacking is a human activity and as such will follow the same patterns and cultural cycles you would expect.

1. A Space Becomes Wide Open.

2. Legends Are Made Taming The Space.

3. Others Rush In And Establish A Second Tier.

4. Then A Third Tier.

5. Then A Fourth Tier.

6. Then A Fifth Tier.

7. Eventually, A New Crop Decides They Don't Want To be Tier 6 Because They Hate The Output Of Tier 5.

8. A Few Brilliant Minds Focus The General Angst Into "The Better Way" aka "A Space Becomes Wide Open"

GOTO 1;

Good, bad - this is how it has and will always work. Good output is rare and imitated to death over time. Every genre exists because someone did good work in it. Someone, somewhere, once wrote a good country western song. :)

I've been thinking of this in the context of YCombinator. The cost of launching a start up is low with a mix of wise guidance and smart, talented, relentlessly resourceful founders. So the space is wide open. PG and co are taming it and building legend and second tier imitators in the process. This is good. Why? Solely because the work coming out of the companies they fund is good.

The second tier companies are producing good work too. However, there will be a third and then a fourth and eventually the quality will dip. It won't be about building, it'll be about flipping - and flipping will fall in on itself in time.

At that point, either the whole thing becomes a smoking hole in the ground (unlikely) or there will be a reaction against it by the best and brightest. They will accomplish a piece of what PG and co set out to do, but couldn't because their structure didn't inherently support it. The "reaction against" will accomplish it, even though it will itself be flawed in some way and sow the seeds of its eventual demise as it ascends.

I think lamenting a decline is the wrong focus. Do good work yourself. Be the change you want to see, or be the spirit of what you value. So long as you are, it can't die. If it is dying and its outside of you, what was it to you anyway?
Im a student at the UofR and would love to attend, unfortunately I fly back the 28th! If you guys host a meetup next month, I'll definitely try to make it.
Sometimes I get the feeling these days that hacking is becoming too market and business oriented and not about the fun intellectual challenge anymore.

There are almost certainly more hackers pursuing intellectual challenges than there have ever been before. What has happened is that the entire rest of the world has arrived on the web, so the intellectuals don't stand out as much.

It used to be that more than half the people on the web were pursuing Ph.D-level projects in computer science. But that was because there were only twelve people on the web, and all of them were MIT students or BBN employees.

Yours is a very common complaint. You hear it all the time in the sciences: Where (people ask) are the contemporary physicists who would rank with Einstein or Fermi? The answer is that there are more people who understand quantum mechanics and general relativity today than there ever were before, and they have a much better understanding than Einstein or Fermi ever did. But they also aren't famous, because it's a lot more boring to be one of several thousand experts on general relativity than it is to be the very first one.

Similarly, I've heard it said that the all-time golden age of mathematics may be... today. There are a lot of mathematicians around. There's more funding than ever before in history.
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I don't think his argument is "placated" by that at all -- the point remains that lots of minutiae are apparently deemed worthy of inclusion, while arguably significant real-world people or organizations (which in many cases meet the letter of the law for notability) are not. The "notability" standard is applied very inconsistently, and in a way that seems to boil down to "whatever the Wikipedia brass find interesting." If that's the standard, fine, but be honest about it.
Cool, you should join the group anyways and then you'll get notified when the next meetup goes down. Thanks for checking it out!
Japanese blog post about it at http://alpha.mixi.co.jp/blog/?p=1333 .

Too long to translate fully, here's Mikio's 4 main design principles:

1. Simple and logical UI. (He likes w3m). Content and style completely separate.

2. Accessibility (follows from point 1). Text-only browsers, mobile browsers will do fine.

3. Convenient image insert using special markup

4. He loves Wikipedia and adopts some of its conventions
Everything you've written would have been just as true in the 1980s, with a few of the names changed. Then too there were authentic hackers, glib fakers, and corporate drones.

The great majority of the computer world in the 1980s was profoundly unsubversive. The smart, subversive people were a tiny minority. They seem a larger proportion when you look back from 30 years later, because the fakers and PHBs had no lasting effects.
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I feel whole cyberpunk aesthetic to be the antithesis of the kind of hacking of RMS and Linus. To me computing was an amazing challenge and opportunity to build things, then cyberpunk came along and it was all about being cool. I feel like where we've reached now is back to focusing on building things.

I feel like the term hacker has finally been rehabilitated after being co-opted by cyberpunk bullshit. I like that hacking now days means building something useful with amazingly cool open source tools. The sense of entitlement and angst that went with the cyberpunk movement makes me glad its long gone.
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People who got their internet access by credit card fraud were never hackers in the first place. They were just cheats and wannabe hackers.

Drama and marginal status doesn't make you a hacker. It just makes you a social outcast.

It's true that there are lots of wannabes today, too — more than ever before, now that the richest man in the world got that way by writing a BASIC interpreter, now that Sergey and Larry get to go to Davos.

But you want to see some real hackers? How about http://www.pouet.net/ where the demoscene posts their stuff? Have you not been to a Bar Camp? SuperHappyDevHouse? Hackerspaces like Noisebridge? How about Google, where Rob Pike now works since they've spent 9 years fixing http://doc.cat-v.org/bell_labs/utah2000/? How about biotech, where they reprogram the very stuff of life itself? How about the Netflix Prize, where AI predicts human preferences for money? How about the algorithmic trading funds that now account for the majority of trading volume on our stock exchanges? Have you been visiting http://www.gpgpu.org/ http://blog.reprap.org/ http://bathsheba.com/ http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/ etc.? How about thirty million people finding one hole after another in the firewall to communicate to each other and the rest of the world, when their election was stolen, through a humble Rails CRUD forum? How about http://vpri.org/html/writings.php, where the objective is to build a whole, modern personal computing environment in under 20 000 lines of code — and they just might do it? How about the OLPC project, where some real hackers — not losers stealing credit card numbers — figured out how to build a machine that would hold up to abuse from kids, in order to revolutionize the world education system (a la Diamond Age), an experiment which is still ongoing? How about Time Magazine listing moot as the most influential person in the world?

Some of these things are good, some are bad, and some are ineffectual. But they are hacking on a scale that you never imagined would be real, in your reclusive vampire credit-card fraud days. These are not people tweaking CSS in yuppie dress shirts, or patching some obsolete proprietary library. These are people pushing the boundaries of the possible.

There's a world of hacking out here.

Open your eyes.
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Comment, and then let it go.
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I think the possibility of article rehabilitation is probably the best reason to do something like I suggested. Otherwise though a relegated article in my mind should be largely like a deleted one in that the main wikipedia can't link to it - but external links will still take you to the page which would be clearly marked as not in the real wikipedia.

I agree with your point about the extreme deletionists, I think if they couldn't irrevevocably destroy the work they would be a lot less interested in pursuing it with such vigor.
The group you've identified as modern "hackers" aren't the descendants of the "real hackers" of the 80s and 90s, but are instead members of the web startup scene. The real hackers haven't changed and are still doing what they always have done: learning about and hacking on cool/interesting/challenging stuff, and, in contrast to the web startup crowd, they generally don't really care to self-promote (and that might be a bug, but it's how they usually are). They are just driven by their curiosity to build and explore. What you're pointing out is that there's now a hugely hyped group of web programmers and startup-founder-wannabes who are now self-identifying as "hackers", but hype is not value. The web startup folk seem to be sourced from a different slice of society than where "real hackers" come from. I don't know the exact difference between the two, but I think the main thing is that hackers are driven primarily to understand, but the startup founder type is driven to create. Both groups do have both traits in abundance of course, but there definitely seems to be a difference in the primary focus/emphasis. There also seems to be a difference in how the groups treat social status: hackers mostly don't care, and are almost exclusively interested in their projects and the opinion of those who are qualified to judge their work (i.e. other hackers in their domain). But compared to the hacker, the web startup founder cares a lot more about the external social rewards of his actions, and cares about social standing as judged by society at large.
Absolutely, this is the technique used by Topsy/etc. That said, @ mentions have multiple contexts (replies, mentions, retweet, follow-friday, etc).

The formal retweet structure lets you build a true/formally defined social graph.
What about Rochester, MN hackers?!?! :-)
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Looks like Andreesen is at it again. He's got the experience, the name, and ofcourse the cash to make a BIG impact in the browser world. Has learned from the mistakes he made with hit browser, NETSCAPE, and from the "browser wars" with Microsoft's Internet Explorer. He's got some big competiton in the search engine world though, with ofcoruse Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome. But, I think he can get it done. Check it out at http://www.rockmelt.com. Really cool logo. See any resemblence to the Netscape logo?
I'm kinda curious why you would ever use onmouseover when attachEvent/addEventListener are available? I just took out the remaining calls to .onEvent handlers in websearch's JS library - the only browsers that don't support the W3C/IE event models are so ancient that they don't get JS anyway, and there's not much point using a method that's unnecessary on modern browsers and does the wrong thing anyway.

So yeah, my interviewer wasn't implying that onmouseover is used only by bad programmers, but I am. ;-)
Again, a canard. Notability is far less subjective than it's made out to be. What episode of The Wire hasn't been written about in a reliable source somewhere? Zero, is how many.

Further, WP accomodates a myriad of non-notable facts. They're simply attached to notable subjects. The idea that every single sentence in WP must be notable is a straw-man argument. Once you accept that The Wire is notable enough for inclusion in WP, by nature of being the single best piece of long-form televisual drama ever created, then the question of how its articles are organized stops being about notability and starts being about information design.

And, I mean, have at it and all. But don't make it something that it isn't.
A 17% misflag rate simply means that 17% of the articles you flag don't end up getting killed. Which is pretty good: it means your flags are an 83% accurate predictor of whether an article will be killed.
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Way ahead of you. Have you seen the Rochester Python meetup? http://www.meetup.com/pythonistas/
You have heard of, say, the EU, Singapore, Canada, Japan, etc? No?
scraping is bad, m'kay

To the contrary, I think scraping is part of the original smalltalk OOP vision, where objects are entities universally accessible, without limitations on who/what/how they are being seen/edited.
I don't think your logic holds. The fact that it's "an encyclopedia that anyone can edit" is why deletionism is a healthy force. If the deletionists let up, and WP spiraled out of control with vanity articles, it would likely stop being an encyclopedia anyone can edit.

Again, I think people personalize this. The good deletionists don't care about you or your subject. It's the project they're sticking up for, not the non-notability of Trevor Blackwell. When the topic of debate is Trevor Blackwell, they'll lose. When it's Ketchup_salt, they'll win.

There certainly are bad deletionists. A lot of them. But I don't think that's a symptom of deletionism. I think it's a symptom of editing-as-sport and status-seeking, and that those are the problems that are really poisoning WP.
I believe that you're diluting the word "hacker" and putting it into a stereotype you have either only seen on tv shows or heard your friends ranting about. "Hackers" are just programmers that love to code and solve problems, and they do it well. BSS and buffer overflows and the such were just interesting problems/challenges that they found interesting ways to overcome or dominate.

The closest thing I can put to your description of "hacker" is the ZF0. http://r00tsecurity.org/files/zf05.txt . They "hack" as you say, it's a great read.

And guess where i found it? HN :P
When I want to escape from nonfiction, I go hiking... But your point is good, I think: there is much more to culture than just literature.
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You could also, you know, grab a couple bags of ground beef and keep them in the freezer. Ground beef freezes really well.
Yeah, I saw that... I think I met a handful of members at the most recent RIT Barcamp. Awesome guys, but I wanted to test the waters for interest in a group that's language and platform agnostic and has the entrepreneur/startup angle.
Then you were hanging with the wrong people.
Don't you now have a whole lot of flabby chicken skin?

You may be missing some instructions here. =)
I fixed the articles of Trevor and Jessica.
This augmented reality thing is crazy. I was skeptical when I first heard about it, but every demo I have seen has blown my mind. This is by far the coolest application of AR that I have seen.
Places like this seem to be popping up here and there...how well do they do? Is this a truly viable (in the long-term) business?
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I flag the offtopic stuff, or the 4th time I've seen the same story.

I do think it would be wrong to flag based on titles, since enough flags would auto-kill (and a story could still be interesting and worthwhile with a lousy title). Besides, there are also editors that change the titles.
Hackerdojo is not a business. What is wrong with you people? This is like asking whether reading or sex is "a viable business".
Yeah, I don't understand why people accept/reject an argument based on which political party supports it, and why one party has to define itself in opposition to the other on every topic. Shouldn't we be looking for good solutions? Not just good solutions endorsed by our party of choice, but overall good solutions...
Hmm. $100/month to ... sit in a room with other people and bang on my laptop?

It'll be interesting if this ends up taking off.
seems fine for me too. Guess Linux isn't ready for the desktop yet!