skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Surprised there isn't any votes for Postbox app (http://getpostbox.com).

* It integrates well with gmail
* does great with multiple accounts
* multiple outgoing addresses
* great search functionality
* GTD tools such as assigning emails a topic.
* Integration with facebook/twitter to pull up contact info
* Extensions such as calendar and contacts

Based on thunderbird, all around awesome client.
Hope you're not also applying the "plan to throw the first one away" principle...
Doesn't validate: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdoctype.com%2...

text/html MIME-type on XHTML markup

Seems like a great start to a site dedicated to web design.
[This meant that by the time my peers graduated from college, I had 6 years of experience under my belt.]

Invalid assumption, since during my undergrad and graduate years I was exposed/worked on large systems (Vax), administered the math dept systems, tutored statistics/calculus, etc. If I add in the wonderful people I met, studied with or learned from during those college years (something that is hard to find in the common workplace btw), those years are far more valuable that 6 years in the workplace.

Experience isn't just putting down years at task X, it is what you gained and the effort you put forth.
As a point of interest. The level of evidence required to get to serve on of these notices is fairly high. I'm willing to bet (an informed guess really) that it is a very small percentage of people with encrypted material that qualify to be served.
If you believe that religions are man-made (irrespective of whether you believe God exists), then, ironically, the greatest opposition to natural evolution comes from memetic evolution.
Yes Obj-C - not sure of the details as it was only what people had showed me (second hand knowledge)
New laws of robotics
I suppose this has its place for simple fixed width designs, but when you need something more flexible I love YUI grids (which they seem to be responding to with this simpler grids css)
Looks like you have to give your root password, which, no offense to Clever Collie, doesn't seem like a good idea. I'd prefer to see a shell script generator, or something like that.

Full disclosure: I'm a developer at Slicehost.
and 960.gs comes with photoshop and fireworks templates with guides already setup.
The objective reality of the sort of decisions made by fifteen year-oldsters on a routine basis show this to be demonstably false.
Gmail: all my accounts syndicate to there and I use multiple inboxes lab feature to sort it all.
Australia has had this for a very long time.
Kmail
Speaking from experience I really don't want more FB mail: the interface terrible. Is anyone convinced on using FB for anything apart from looking at your mate's holiday photos and keeping in touch?
How far into the interview does he mention that? I had to stop watching because I couldn't stand that used car salesguy doing the interview.

Oh, I looked on Amazon and guy kawasaki is coauthor of the book. Not going in my reading list.
College can also be a valuable experience, but you're incredibly presumptuous about working experience as "years at task X" and the value of my experience relative to your education.

A degree program provides the opportunity to learn, but no guarantee that you have. Real-world experience provides a measurable demonstration of your abilities. Both are valuable, but for different reasons.
Yeah, I basically blew off college for the middle 6 semesters, barely graduated, flunked two courses in my major, was on academic probation twice, and skipped probably well over half my classes, and have no regrets. It was nice to stand up on the stage and get my diploma - a year late, though I didn't need to take any additional classes beyond my 4 years - and remember that I got everything I wanted out of college.

I actually didn't spend much time drinking and doing drugs - my reasoning was that I actually wanted to remember college. But I got involved in a bunch of clubs & activities, just hung out and chilled with my housemates a lot at like 4 AM, got to know hundreds of friends through the Internet, studied abroad, learned Lisp and functional programming, took on a major software rewrite for a popular website, went to a few parties (enough so I felt like I didn't miss out anything), had lots of quasi-intellectual discussions with friends, read lots of books, visited local attractions, and took courses at other colleges in the area. I feel like this is an opportunity cost that I'd regret missing a lot more than the class-time and homework assignments than I skipped.

The irony is that it doesn't seem to have harmed my career at all. Once you get that first job and do well at it, nobody cares how you did in college. And I got that first job through a friend I'd met on a programming website on the Internet, while I should've been doing my homework. Score one for slacking!
That sounds pretty amazing actually.
Could you create some kind of macro that pages through, then selects all unread, then marks as read? Maybe with something like this:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3863
"The researchers broke down each of these 30 behaviors into individual units. A side flip, for example, requires a dolphin to jump and land on its side -- for a total of two behavioral units."

This sounds so arbitrary. Why is jumping and landing counted as two units? If a dolphin jumps, it's going to land no matter what. Why not count it as just one point?

"Head butting takes four units, as two individuals jump, hit and use their heads."

Why four and not two?

"A simple turn involves just one unit, so does a forced blow of air out of a partially closed blowhole."

This is the only part that makes sense.

"After hundreds of hours of observation and analyses, the scientists concluded that dolphins perform simple, one-move behaviors more often than complicated, multi-faceted actions."

Or it could just be that it takes a lot more energy (and sometimes cooperation) to perform the actions which they happened to assign higher number of units to, regardless of their complexity.

"Scientists call this phenomenon the "law of brevity," and it exists in all human languages"

Or perhaps it has nothing to do with language, but everything to do with dolphins only being able to perform a limited number of actions that require lots of energy and cooperation.
To my lay understanding (IANAL) it seems the legal system used to have a strong distinction between "things you have" and "things you know". To the point in the U.S. where "taking the 5th" is very much in the public consciousness as not having to say anything that could be used against you. A warrant certainly can be used to take the drive with any encrypted material on it, but forcing divulgence of the keys seems like another level entirely.
I used Pine for a long time. It was great. I use Thunderbird now.
Opera.

Mainly because it's open almost the entire day on my laptop.
Same logic says if you have a safe full of papers --- records of things you know --- you can refuse a search warrant for the contents of your safe.

(Yes, that's my point.)
Gmail forwarding all my accounts to my main account.
Totally disagree. Posted my reasons on another subthread:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=756811
Mail.app with Gmail / Google Apps, so I have backup in the cloud, access anywhere, and IMAP syncing with iPhone. Works great.
I couldn't agree more. Sorry for lack of a more fruitful comment, but really, you said it perfectly.
How would you feel if your work was reduced to a contest? I’d guess you’d find it rather insulting.

But, there are programming contests. They are fun, not insulting.
GMail on Mozilla Prism then Mail.app for everything else - I don't have a clue how Thunderbird performs on the Mac, but Mail.app works fine atm.

Lastly, Thunderbird on Windows
Thank you for sharing that site. Inspiring and eye opening
thunderbird for work, home and projects on the desktop. ipod mail.app and nokia n96 mailer the most rest of the time. If all those unavailable, squirrelmail.
I use IMAP on gmail with opera. I need a desktop client, for times when i'm not connected and quickly need to search an old email for some small little detail.

I just use it as an offline backup, and keep it synced.
What would validation prove? These guys created a website so you can talk to experts on web design. They are not claiming to be experts on that topic themselves. Even if validation meant much it would seem unfair to hold the owners of this site responsible.
The data doesn't support high school working out for 95% of students.

Fewer than 70% of US high school students graduate with their class. Few districts do better than 80%. About 3% or so homeschool, so that leaves you with about 67% who graduate in the system.

The 2005 data from the National Assessment of Educational Progress shows that 34% of 12th graders rated "proficient" reading abilities.

Not exactly a glowing success.

There are good options if you're looking for alternatives. I know a bit about the situation in Seattle because I opted out of high school there. The school district there has a "school" set up where home schoolers can register, do some non-home friendly classes (science & theater mostly IIRC), and benefit from government education funding. Many cities have programs that let high schoolers get credit for taking college classes and some universities are set up to do early admission (I did the UW program). Before all that I did an apprenticeship at a small electronics company (age 13). Pretty much you need to do the legwork though, you may find that the school district isn't interested in helping students leave the system (taking their funding with them).
Actually, these reasons are perfectly sufficient to draw an arbitrary age line. Everyone thinks they are "special" and the exception to the rule. This attitude is especially prevalent on sites like this. Unfortunately, much like our own estimation of our own driving ability in comparison to our view of the driving abilities of everyone else it is easy to see a strong degree of cognative bias in our answers.

The reason that no one cares too much about an age line like this is that it hits everyone equally and eventually you will age past it. During the years immediately following this event you will see it as as unjust but you demographic insignificance will prevent any real change. Only when you can look back with the benefit of a decade or more of life-experience and hard-won wisdom will you be able to really make an objective judgement; restrictions that were unjust or ill advised from this perspective might change, but I would not expect much to appear unwise...
If Steve Jobs were a used car salesman, yes.
Only if I think it'll get me more upvotes ;)
Google Apps GMail, mail app on the iPhone (and occasionally web app).

Mail sucks, GMail makes it ok.
No, you can't.

The 5th amendment right to avoid self-incrimination only extends to testimony. A search warrant can compel you to furnish the contents of a safe (as property, it is governed by the 4th amendment -- due process is all that is required, and in this case, the process of getting a search warrant is all that the Constitution requires).
Neither does stackoverflow ( http://vldtr.com/?key=SO ). Didn't stop them.
Doesn't mean you can't found a company - you just can't be employed by it unless it sponsors your visa...
> most people look back on their teenage years and say "why was I so stupid"

As far as I can tell, that pattern holds for at least another decade.
You do not have to pay income tax if you spend less than 30 days in the US that calendar year. You do have to pay any self-employment tax, however. The rules are extremely complex and I highly advise consulting someone who understands them.
I think it would make things more interesting. So many problems that would then be solvable in polynomial time.
Intel and Micron announce smallest, cheapest NAND flash yet
It is not that clear cut. You don't have to unlock the safe, you have to provide the key to unlock the safe. If the key only exists in your mind, and the contents of your mind are protected by the Fifth Amendment, then it is likely that you don't have to provide the key.

You are further protected by the fact that we don't have mind-reading devices yet. (People are often forgetful under stress, so it follows that you could forget your difficult-to-remember password under the stress of arrest and trial.)

Yes, there is US v. Boucher. That is a very special case, however, and District Court rulings are far from definitive.
fetchmail -> procmail -> mutt -> vim -> gpg -> ssmtp
High school works decently enough for the rest of the 95%.

Funny. If you listen to the political-sphere, the argument is that high school sucks for most people, but works brilliantly for the well-off.

But if you actually ask the well-off and the people at the top of the class, they almost unanimously decry it as an awful waste of time.

High school does not really work for anyone. The vast majority of people end up learning their trade on the job. Why delay that process 4 (or 8) years?
IOUs are not currency, and so no government body is compelled to accept them as payment...including the government body which issued them.

Private entities are not regulated by the constitution, which is why you can have tokens and gaming chips as legal tender in arcades and casinos.
Microsoft: "dropping support for IE6 is not an option"
Alt Text: Apple’s Appalling Approach to iPhone App Approvals
'Alien scene' of tadpoles feast
They're complaining about development costs and bandwidth costs.

I don't buy it.

A url shortener is relatively trivial to operate (at least, compared to some of the stuff I'm doing right now). It works, or it doesn't, once you've got it there isn't much you can do to make it better or add features.

So development costs are almost a one-time affair and it seems they had already done that.

What's left is the bandwidth cost.

A Mbit is about $5 /month in bulk. The average 'GET' reguest from a device is maybe 500 bytes, the answer, the redirect is maybe another 500 bytes. So say 1 Kbyte in total (generous!). 1Mbit / sec = 128 Kbyte, so that is roughly 100 requests / second for $5 /month. Serverload is trivial, a single table with a unique key, you can do 1000's of queries like that per second on a single box. It is a trivially parallel problem, simply distribute all urls across all machines. A single box could push maybe 100K requests / second using varnishd or some other front end cache (tr.im uses nginx), so that's maybe 800Kbit/sec out of one box.

You'll need a bunch of IPs otherwise you'll run out of sockets and you'll need some memory for the cache.

Calculate in some margin and you can cut that down to maybe 500 Mbit/sec, so that box would cost you $2500 / month and it would handle a staggering 62500*86400 = 5 billion requests / day.

No way tr.im is at that level, more likely a few tens of millions of requests per day, reduce bandwidth costs accordingly, say $500 to $1000.

It wouldn't take more than a bunch of google ads displayed to the makers of the urls or a donation to keep a service like that going, that's not a whole lot of $ to make on a site. One of my sites which converts absolutely horrible does that kind of money on 27000 visitors / day (mostly from Finland, don't ask...).

This will never be a business, and personally I really don't understand why the likes of twitter do not give a short url out on their own service. But it also does not cost a fortune to run, that's bs.

And if you want to create 'value' you should do something a little more sticky than a url shortener, it literally is a throwaway relationship with your audience.

And if you lock them out for a couple of days because you can't make up your mind if you're going to sink or swim you have really tossed your investment into the water.
He mentions it at 5:15, in response to Warner's third question. That's awfully little material to go on when dismissing the interviewer as a "used car salesguy."
I'm pretty sure that you can't refuse a search warrant.

Edit: see fatdog's comment for why.
Stross and Krugman chat
Which is why I tend to believe it has quite a bit more to do with socially encouraged irresponsibility than teenage brain development.
im not sure but I think that was his point (only using the reverse argument)
gmail for my main account and yahoo!mail for any sign ups, etc. that I don't really care about.
Apple is trying to do innovative things like the App Store. In trying something new, they made mistakes. And if they want to keep innovating, they have to keep making new mistakes. I hear all the time that we as entrepreneurs need to fail fast and fail often to innovate.

I think this is just the price of innovation. You're not going to hit ever ball out of the park and some foul balls will wind up hitting someone in the stands.

Keep making good reasoned arguments about the flaws but boycotting seems unreasonable.
Did not or could not? Many people can do a lot more than they actually do do. Just because they choose not to - or are never aware that they have the choice - doesn't make it impossible.

Consider spending less than you make (i.e. not going into massive credit card debt). I highly suspect most people can do this - they certainly did just fine up until the 1970s. But many people don't - at least, enough that the savings rate was negative until the current financial crisis.

I've heard a few people argue that this proves people are constitutionally incapable of managing money. I think this is bullshit. They're incapable of managing money because the environment and incentives around them provides them no reason to manage their money. If you stopped handing out credit like candy, you'd find that people could very easily manage their finances.

So it is with school. Just because 99.99999% of the population doesn't drop out and support themselves while building their career doesn't mean they can't. It just means they find it easier and more imaginable to stay in school.
You might've made this a poll. From the HN FAQ:

> How do I submit a poll?

> http://news.ycombinator.com/newpoll

> This is an experimental feature so there is currently a fairly high karma threshold for submitting new polls.
The case against blurred fonts
Not that I've noticed. I just checked a bunch and most of my Ruby daemons have been running since early May, though some are busier than others.

Of course if you're the type to install random C extensions from github you might not always be so lucky.
I am in touch with Twitter API folks to fix problems. Sometimes it goes down for a few seconds. We are looking into caching results so that the Search API is not queried on every page load.
Buying FriendFeed just got a bit more interesting. Getting Paul Buchheit is a huge score if Facebook is going to focus on building a full featured mail system.

My uneducated guess would be that ads on gmail don't perform all that well, but if facebook could figure out how to monetize messaging that would be huge.
Interesting. I wrote a shell script a couple months ago for our slicehost servers - I can build a machine in about 5 mins with it. It basically does yum installs (centos) and rsync and starts some services. Ready to scale in a hurry if I need it and avoids needing backup for every slice.
That ignores the size of the polynomial, doesn't it? If the fastest polynomial-time proof finding algorithm is O(n^50), it's not going to do much good.
That's one wickedly clever domain but I don't think it will inspire a lot of confidence in your users.

Congratulations though... I'm sure you'll see a lot of followers.
"1) Much smaller user base"

Also a much more focused user base. From an advertising point of view, do you think it's easier to sell 10,000 uniques on a general web technology site or 5,000 uniques on a site that has a very specific audience like web designers?
I think a reasonable answer (to a reasonable question, not sure why you're being downvoted to oblivion) to why it's newsworthy is the very fact that Google chose to announce it. Google must have made many changes to both the ranking algorithm and the responsiveness of their system over the years - I don't recall any announcements of them, codename attached (although it's conceivable I missed them somehow).

Part of the motivation may be to create some publicity to counter all the Bing/yahoo deal/etc publicity.
As a designer and front-end developer I view it as a service to people to force them to realize their browser is out-dated.
Google has an offline gmail version in beta. Requires Google Gears (not available for FF3.5, last I checked) but works for Safari.

All my mail is synced locally but I can still use the Gmail interface.
I think this is a pretty good idea! A lot of students at the colleges I went to spent their first year taking core classes or classes in a major they ended up switching out of. Might as well let students take care of that first year somewhere more affordable/accessible to everyone, and then move on to college.
Google Wants Testers for Its Latest Search Algorithm | Epicenter | Wired.com
Gnus. (Local IMAP fed by offlineimap from my real IMAP server.)

I use K9 on my phone.
Actually, you can sue them, which is what the businesses in question are doing.

It's not the best recourse, but it is the recourse intended by our system.
10,000 Hours To Develop Talent
That's an interesting argument, if Twitter is free to choose who they do business with then Apple should be too or vv.

I can't quite put my finger on why I come down on Twitter being able to prefer bit.ly if they want and Apple not being able to 'prefer' at&t...

Something doesn't jive here.
I made my mother laugh when nothing else could. Everything else I have ever achieved is a distant second.
Recall that primality testing was proved to be in P, O(n^6) via the AKS primality test, but in practice it's much too slow. So if something interesting is in P, but it's O(n^100), what good is that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AKS_primality_test
I personally have a problem finding my most impressive achievement not impressive at all from the instant it's done. Anyone else?
Basic income
That's what you get for not using tables :)
A mri scan costs < 800 euros, the equipment costs millions of dollars. It's not like you throw it away after the first 20 uses.
Yea, as of now there's no way around that.

I'm working on adding 'sudo' logic into the script, but that doesn't seem any less risky security wise.

Users are welcome to use something like whowatch or a tty spy to view the progress of the script. What you see in the browser is what is going is happening on the machine.

Users are also welcome to set their passwords to something temporary and then change them when the deployer is complete.

In the end though, the only thing I can offer to put user's minds at ease is my word that I don't store any of their login info.

For the more technically curious I'm not even using a database right now. I just log the job id, the ip address you requested, and whether or not an email was successfully sent to the one you provided. Login information is only held in memory until the bootstrapper successfully connects to the machine. After that its gone.

As for the automated shell script, as of now it would be incredibly tedious to replicate something like this using standard shell scripting (for me at least). I've thought about adding a "copy to clipboard" button above the terminal, that would copy all the executed commands in the textarea. This could be pasted into a script, but it would still need some interaction from the user.

This is all very good feedback and I'm open to anymore that would help improve the project and make a better overall user experience.
> Be respectful of the place, and try to go beyond the role of a self-satisfied expat

I'd like to hear you expand on this or is it something that you just learn from experience and actual long-term traveling and not from arm-chair reading articles on a site like http://BraveNewTraveler.com? Thanks