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The problem is that it ceased to be his personal opinion when he donated money to and voted to strip other people of their rights (while keeping those rights for himself) under force of law. He directly contributed to preventing some of his very own employees from being able to marry in their home state of California. A right they had previously enjoyed.

If he held to his own beliefs, but allowed others to have their own beliefs and live their lives how they wanted, I sincerely doubt this would have been such a big issue.
Brendan Eich resigns in wake of backlash
These two statements don't seem contradictory; Real life things can be complicated.
Let's admit the truth to ourselves... we were already playing it when we read this post... :(

It's interesting to see this list though... the things that really tick with HN heh.
I made no criticisms of how you responded to individual issues raised by the audit, and in fact it's encouraging to see many of the long-standing contact authorization issues finally being addressed as well as what I would generally consider an acceptable approach to handling individual security issues. But I don't think either of these points addresses my concerns regarding security conscious development practices.

I appreciate your willingness to continue this discussion, dropped you an email.
You are drawing a false equivalence.

The technology that Mozilla produces is of great importance. But that does not mean that all other concerns are totally irrelevant.

Let's use an example where Eich held a really extreme opinion (like, maybe all non-whites in California should be shot on sight, or something ridiculous like that.) There would likely be widespread opposition to his appointment, and I find it difficult to believe that there would be anybody preaching about the unfairness of the "internet lynch mob" then.

Obviously that's not going to happen. But it demonstrates that there's clearly a point at which the personal views of an important public figure like Mozilla's CEO are important. With that agreed, it's obvious that the difference is merely in terms of the importance different people afford it.
Free speech does not mean, and has never meant, freedom from social consequence. The Constitution does not say that you can do and say whatever you want and other people can't have opinions about it.

Eich paid good money in an attempt to restrict how people in Mozilla's home state live their lives — some of them even Mozilla employees. He expressed no regret for doing so, then became CEO of Mozilla, a company that virtually defines itself by freedom and inclusion.

There were myriad ways he could've attempted to resolve this, and he did precisely none of them. That he would rather give up the job entirely speaks volumes about what he finds important.
Religious fundamentalists target the rest of us all the time. That is the problem here, not the other way around.

It's exactly this hateful, viciously intolerant attitude Eich represents ("someone nice"? seriously?). There's nothing silly about not wanting anything to do with people like that, or the organisations they represent.

And that's all people have done: stated, in various ways, they wanted nothing to do with Eich.

Which doesn't even come close to Eich's agenda of denying people equal rights simply because of how they were born.

I find it beyond comprehension that someone like Eich is being portrayed as the victim here, or that we should simply accept having active bigots as leaders, CEO's, employers or business partners.

The protesters aren't the lynch mob. Eich and his kind are.
Hm, I hadn't thought it would be misleading and asked for feedback on the heading. I guess the people I asked for feedback already know how it works... Thanks for telling me this because we consider ourselves super straight-shooting and want to be clear. We'll improve.
If the guy believes that God needs gays to be treated differently from straights, and acts on that belief, how can he be trusted to make decisions about company personnel, or indeed any decision on anything?

It's OK to hold people accountable for their daft beliefs.
> "if you wanted a free trade zone and international cooperations in all sorts of areas between 28 nations."

I don't... I don't see any upside to increased centralisation and globalisation.
I paid for the certificate on StartSSL.com, and it's class-2 valid. I wonder why that's happening to some people.
.. you're also not hiring the best and the brightest because you aren't paying enough. Top talent knows what it's worth and enjoys those rewards .. finding them through consulting, banking, or entrepreneurship.

Only the mediocre are going to settle for $160k/yr + options at some "me too" A16Z startup.
The key thing is what you wrote there:

"Sensors

Notifon is universal. You can use any sensor that has two states, such as a switch, a push button, a magnetic door switch, a relay... Notifon allows you to predefine a set of actions for each state."

Just put that (or a simplified form of it - a graphical illustration is helpful) somewhere quite visible on the actual product page?
He stepped down at the board's invitation. AKA He was fired. (1)

They can promulgate the idea that this was a mutual decision, but at the end of the day, anyone who knows Brendan knows he would never step down voluntarily.

Brendan's defining traits are his obstinacy and his ego about technology. Imagine saying only the language that YOU invented can be used for the web.

Oh and it's single threaded only, (gee that's the future!) and oh that 3D technology that Microsoft has had working since the early 90s still (WebGL in 2014) doesn't work for anything non-trivial.

Mozilla and Brendan Eich parting ways permanently is the best thing that could ever happen to Mozilla. (2)

(1) This is a fact.
(2) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5226309
You promote your site on reddit very aggressively, and consistently smear reddit's moderators as bad guys. You're a liar, and definitely not some poor victim.

edit:

Things you have done include running a bot to constantly promote MediaCrush on reddit (which you refer to as, "a little spammy"), vote-gaming by upvoting your bot's posts, removing any and all of your posts where you receive negative press, and slandering reddit moderators.
I have several objections to this, but one of the largest is that while the current Tarsnap site looks eminently trustable, the suggested replacement screams I WAS MADE FROM A TEMPLATE. THIS SITE IS A SCAM.
the role of the CEO is that the buck stops with them. they are not only a figurehead but ultimately responsible for everything at the company. way different
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If would only be cool if you could disable these permissions; as it is, they're not asking you if you want to grant the permissions, they're just warning you in the ways in which the app will violate your privacy. Thanks, but that's not enough.

(Unless you run Xprivacy or Cyanogenmod's Privacy Guard, etc.)
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This wasn't like donating to a politician who you agree with one on issue, who happens to have other views that you might not. He donated to a campaign with a singular goal, opposing equal rights for gay people. Hatred isn't a word I would use, but it does suggest a level of disrespect and arrogance toward the other side.
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Again... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_balance

And why is it "objectively" morally wrong? Who gets to decide this? There is no scientific consensus on the causes of homosexuality.
There is an ongoing conservative boycott of the Girl Scouts of America: http://cookiecott.com/
That perspective fails to address the issue of whether LGBT individuals are entitled to equal rights under the law, regardless of what name is used (e.g., "marriage", "civil union", whatever).

Not to say that the name doesn't matter ("marriage" vs. "civil union"--separate but equal?), but there's definitely more going on here than just a semantic disagreement.
I'll grant you I was misinformed on the latter, but can you point to some source on him not working for Mozilla at all anymore? Nothing I can see says anything but that he stepped down from the CEO role and his board position on the Foundation (which would be where he could still have a say in the running of Mozilla, I don't think it was the goal of the boycott to have him leave the Foundation board so it seems a little excessive to me).

That is a shame if so, as his technical contributions are still clearly valuable.

[edit] https://brendaneich.com/2014/04/the-next-mission/ answers my own question.
I think there are also a couple of other sensors which also help detect movement and waving. They call them "occupancy" and "activity" sensors.

http://support.nest.com/article/Learn-more-about-the-Nest-Pr...
This isn't about this particular issue, it's about the wider corporate response to it.
I don't think you know what homeopathy is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy will give you a clue. "Tea from the horn of a rhino" is possibly considered treatment in some places, but it is not homeopathy.

(Which is not my support of homeopathy - it's just that using the right term is important for discourse. It's important to distinguish between copyright infringement and theft, and it is important to distinguish between different forms of alternative -- that is, not scientifically proven -- medicine).
> He could work on his empathy, examine his beliefs, and come to the correct conclusion

Yeah, if he keeps looking and examining what's wrong with him he will eventually see that there really are five lights. I mean, that's all it takes right? We simply choose what to believe as it's convenient to us?
Tim Cook is gay? It doesn't mention that anywhere on his wikipedia page and I am pretty surprised to hear about it. Inspired, actually, as a gay person that thinks telling people your sexuality is about as relevant in most situations as telling people your favorite flavor of ice cream.
There is a difference between having a legal right to horrible beliefs (something most posters here, I think, support), and having an expectation that those beliefs have no effect on your opportunities when you are seeking a highly public job that impacts millions of diverse people.

Many of those people, myself included, probably don't buy the party line that you can completely divorce business decisions from deeply held personal beliefs.

Would you feel the same way if he'd donated to some far-right group that was against intermarriage between blacks and whites? What about something even more extreme? I don't see how the situation would be fundamentally different, or how your argument that this reaction is "too bad" would no longer apply.
As a former cognitive neuroscientist, I pray for the day Matlab is displaced. Given the generally low level of programming ability in the sciences, I'm personally rooting for Python to win, but I'll take what I can get.

Unfortunately, the dominant EEG and fMRI packages (Fieldtrip and SPM) were written in Matlab, and my labs standardized on them. Plus, when I was in school, R was unable to handle the multi-GB data sets that result from neuroimaging.
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It's not about gay marriage; it's about Mozilla. And yes, I do think Mozilla is in a better place now that Eich is gone.

Donating $1000 to support a movement that undermines human equality is incredibly out of line with Mozilla's views. From my perspective, that's about a month's rent or a mortgage payment; he must care about the issue a lot to donate that much of his own money. His interview non-apologies certainly didn't help the issue.
> You could even write your own browser that puts up a nag screen if you go to OKCupid.

The scary thing about HN is that you might actually be serious that people should "simply write a web browser" to enforce correct political ideology...
The Mozilla Foundation is funded by donations and "search royalties". Since 2005, the vast majority of funds have come from Google Inc....Mozilla Corporation [is] "a taxable subsidiary that serves the non-profit, public benefit goals of its parent, the Mozilla Foundation"

Mozilla =~= Google
Brendan Eich Steps Down as Mozilla CEO
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-steps-down-as-mozilla-ceo/

This link has been posted before, but every time it's (most likely) been auto-removed because it gets more comments than upvotes. To prevent the anti-flame-war system from removing this thread, please only comment if you have something to say that hasn't been said already, and don't comment anything that isn't meaningful.

Let's see if we can keep this one up.
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No, he wrote an article that Colin specifically asked him to write: https://twitter.com/cperciva/status/451262554069663744
Jonathan Rauch makes almost exactly this argument you are trying to dismiss out of hand, and as a writer who's been openly gay since 1991, I think he has probably been the target of not a little intolerance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Rauch
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A "lynch mob" is a pejorative term because it refers to a group of people who deprive another person of both their right to a fair trial, and subsequently their right to not be murdered (it also carries connotations of innocence, and a mob looking for a victim that fits a particular preconceived profile).

Banning speech is reductio ad absurdum of arguments that what happened to Eich should be somehow prevented. Because that's all that happened -- people making choices about what products to use, and talking to other people about that choice.
Do you really think that's the reason? Specs should be ignored when they state things beyond their scope. The a restriction on DNS depending on if a newer HTTP spec definitely something that can and should be ignored if it helps clients.
I use Escrow.com a lot as a domainer, so I was initially concerned that a hold could be placed on the wire transfer after receiving the domain. The whole point of Escrow.com is that you are not able to cancel wire transfers and run away with my domain. However, it looks like they were operating under special circumstances due to the FBI investigation. Brandon Abbey is the president of Escrow.com and said “Escrow.com is holding the funds based on the proper legal authorities filing the necessary paperwork with the judicial system. We strictly follow the Escrow Law. That is what licensed escrow companies do.” Looks like it was just not explained correctly in the initial article.
Why do I get the feeling that most of these comments are basically pointing out faults in EU instead of the news itself which is of great relevancy to all of us.

I understand the audience here is mostly American but shouldn't we really by cheering this achievement and try to convince US senators to follow the lead?

US is the one who is behind right now. Neutrally speaking.
Not to mention, States (as opposed to Federal) Rights is a big deal in the US because we find your exact concerns to be crucial to efficient government.

I'm glad to see a European that the idea of local government isn't completely lost upon.

Its also strange to see such a pro-centralization crowd on HN given that the causation relationship between diversity/decentralization and robustness of a complex network is well documented.
Aside from the strange example you provided, what's funny is that you focused on a 1 cent price movement. The average bid-ask spread before high-volume electronic trading drove it down was 12 cents --- that was money in the pockets of middlemen. Before electronic trading, the spread could have been measured in dollars.
This is a watershed event. Blood has been drawn in this battle, which changes the entire nature of the battlefield.

Future political vetting will not be the same as past vetting, it will be more intense. That's a simple fact that this point.
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> I was talking about improving the property of "ability to create wealth" for people who are under-served by the current system.

Ok, cool, we're in agreement.
Really its just an ad for SBIR but what ever. It is certainly a different fundraising taxonomy going through the research grant process than through the VC process. A number of grants that 'swing for the fences' although its not clear that the batters are always up for it.
I think you're missing an important option. If an issue is on github then I'm much more inclined to report any bug I come across.

If it's on some obscure bug tracker that I don't have an account for then the odds of me reporting it are almost zero because chances are there's an alternative to what your software does if it happens to be a show stopper and most of the time if it's a wide spread project there will be fixes to the bug in other places.

It's annoying to make an account, go through all of that stuff and then realize most of the time nothing happens with your report.
The trick is public perception of it. Once the public considers an issue no longer political, and rapidly coalesces behind a point of view... if you are on the wrong side of the point of view, expect to suffer repercussions.

I would put forth that this issue has passed out of "political issue" because of its obvious trajectory.
Private funded "churches" are a common thing all over the world. Was there ever been a problem with this? No.
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> Regardless, Eich wasn't forced to step down; he did so voluntarily.

I think an HR type might examine the concept of "constructive dismissal" in this particular case.
Okay, substitute mistakes with "choices that might get frowned upon by the public at any point in time going forward".
Thanks kt9. Glad you're able to find some good travel deals!
Eh, I've played KSP, an orbital rendezvous in LEO on your return isn't that hard. If you have enough precision and fuel leftover to start a safe decent, you have enough precision and fuel to dock with the ISS.

I'm surprised that we aren't equally worried about contaminating Enceladus with terran microbes.
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I use R almost every day. I'm tempted to start porting Bioconductor packages to Julia, so I can go back to working in languages that don't make my brain melt. It's scary when you realize you actually got used to working around the hacks/quirks of R.
The way to avoid wasting money like this is to ramp up your spending gradually using what's called 'discovery campaigns.' This is a risk management method that helps you to avoid the shittiest publishers (which is almost all of them). If you had done this you could have avoided this unhappy incident.

You can also bypass discovery campaigns by just running managed placements, which means whitelisting certain publishers only.

Google does a disservice to its customers by making it seem like 'anyone' who can paste an image into its tool can advertise effectively. Technically, yes, it's so easy that even a greedy pigeon with a corporate credit card can do it.

Practically, in many if not most verticals, it takes reading at least a couple textbooks worth of material to be effective, plus creative experience.

Google is not being shady in this instance. The only shady thing that it is doing is using its marketing to delude people with large enough budgets to hurt themselves into managing their own campaigns.

Another issue highlighted in this post that many professional advertisers complain about is that over the last few years, Google has tried to frogmarch desktop advertisers into tablet/mobile advertising, whereas it requires more finesse and planning to tailor campaigns to those devices than most clients are interested in using.
This isn't true. Since about 1960 productivity has gone up but (middle class) incomes have gone down. The fraction of a family's expenditures have become dominated by the basics, not by the amenities you cite.
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Which is of course explicitly against the rules. Turns out reddit was an investor which was not revealed until today.
It is certainly a positive victory. This is a wave in the tides of history. If you take away the waves in the guise of "mercy", you end up with no tide. What's sad is that Eich has learned nothing yet. Hopefully he does, or others do.

Mandela did not say "let us show mercy, and extend extra privileges".
The whole category of moral non-cognitivist beliefs is a really freeing way to look at the world. A lot of things make sense that just don't under other frameworks. I'm a true novice in this area, but that's how I see it.
One of the primary objections to Prop 8 was that we can't legislate morality.

Or is it that only your morality should be eligible for codification in the law?
He started Postgres before it became PostgreSQL (i.e. before it even supported SQL). It's quite a different system now.
For those who may not know:

Apple commissioned eight two-dimensional sculptures for its R&D campus front lawn in 1993. Officially, the "icon garden" fulfilled an agreement to have art in Apple's front park (and paid homage to Susan Kare). Shortly after Steve Jobs returned in 1997, he stripped the garden.

As for where the icons ended up: it's anyone's guess! There really isn't any conclusive info on this, and most people fall back on one of three non-definitive theories:

a) They were scrapped.
b) They're archived somewhere.
c) Chuck Norris.
Sounds like a good experience, coming face to face with your own mortality and learning not to overdose on... anything, really.
And yet, his views are totally liberal relative to the views you find in some Muslim countries, where homosexuals are sentenced to death or are just killed outright. Why aren't you focused on that, instead of worrying about the definition of marriage for the time being? Aren't there much larger fish to fry?
Brilliant paper. Did you followed your statements to get this on the front page?
Looks like this post just got tanked.
Is there any proof that they felt uncomfortable at any time ? Every post I've seen from Mozilla employees has stated that they find the work environment at Mozilla very supportive and Mozilla does have excellent pro-LGBT benefits. I fail to see how this is a positive effect.
I really like that idea. It seems like an awesome compromise.
Always good to read about Kare-related stuff. Working in monochrome and very low resolution is something I think every visual designer should try at least once, if only as an intellectual exercise. It's a bit like trying to write without adjectives or painting without white.
If the applicant doesn't get anything out of it, then it would be a waste of their time. But as an applicant, wouldn't you also want to make sure that your potential future coworkers / managers are people you'd want to work with? You're evaluating the company just as much as they're evaluating you.
> a position which caused actual damage

[citation needed]. Also, he supported a cause that the majority of the voters did. How can you prove that withholding his $1k or whatever, or even him advocating for the opposite position, would have changed the outcome of the vote, thus averting "actual damage" to people?

Sorry if this is overly snarky, nitpicky, emotionally charged. I guess every comment in these threads is, pretty much.
No . . . I was talking about coming to the right belief, not the convenient one. Not sure where you got that from . . .
How do you know it will be a software fix? (Other than just disabling the feature.)

I would assume they would use a new sensor to do a more discriminating job of detecting the motion.
I think to a recruiter, bootstrap, backbone, c++, CAD, flask, etc... Are all just words to match up. That's all I meant when I called it a buzzword.
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