skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
That's not really irony. It's generally okay to have a self-referential asterisk in rules like; Tolerance, except for intolerance. Free will, except where it impedes that of another. Peace & good will, except where you're about to punch me in the face. Etc. When people argue inconsistency in those cases, it's usually sophistry.

That's not to defend okcupid's tactics in this case. I'm just saying that it's not really an example of hypocrisy.
This is not about what's right. It's about attention, meaning user growth and ad revenue. OkCupid's leadership does not actually care about Eich's appointment.
This reminds me of weev's "hack" against AT&T. Will people demand that the creator of this cool be thrown into jail for 3 years?
Not sure, but about that "taking down ancient buildings" thing, I believe the UK helped Germany a lot in that, although pretty much unasked for.
It seems to be saying "you can't prove the conclusion of the argument is false", not "you can't prove anything". You can still prove the argument is invalid.
But if we discriminate against him purely on the basis of his beliefs (and not his actions on the job), we are no better than he.

(If his personal beliefs do pollute his work then do as you will, run the guy out of town on a rail if you must)
They can be, yes.
I think submitting a separate story would be better so it gets proper attention and can be discussed without derailing this submission.

Hmm, yeah I guess I just accused the mods of derailing.
Which is not what I said or even implied.

I said the situation in Uganda can't be considered "close" by any stretch of imagination to the situation in California until recently, before gay marriage was legalized. I also implied reaction should be proportionate to the degree of wrong. How the heck did you infer "opposing gay marriage is positive" from that?
But, at the same time, it still had to not bother them sufficiently enough to raise serious questions.

To me, it's like watching someone kick a puppy and then considering him for CEO.

"hey, how about this guy? He kicked a puppy."

"Is there anything about him that we need to be aware of?"

"no, not that I know of."
The lack of beefier instances is a bit tough to handle -- the largest memory machine is the A7 at 56gb, compared to a cr1.8xlarge at 244.
Microsoft censors TorrentFreak for security reasons
No, it is Square Up. See https://squareup.com/market
Powerful words. Incredible response from this amazing Mozilla employee.

'To everyone who has flinched away, and everyone re-traumatized by these events, I offer a complete and sincere apology: I have chosen to walk under this banner, and that makes me complicit, and I am so sorry for the pain I know this has caused.'
I am curious why Coinbase is not rate limiting that API call (temp-fix) or addressing this yet (even privately)?

Granted it is not a critical flaw, but is having no limits over time really necessary for Coinbase API users?
Absolutely fair point.

I would be interested to hear from the LGTB community within Mozilla as to where the consensus is on this move.
I'm afraid you may have missed my point. I was deliberately intervening in this submission, because the thread sucked. Edit: it might be a bit better now.

All: Unthoughtful comments should be downvoted. Have at it.

Edit: I've mollified my wording slightly. Please downvote judiciously.
Why do you say his beliefs are hateful? And, is a person's beliefs/opinion constant and permanent or do they change over time?

Here's what Elton John had to say in 2008 (his views have since changed); from HuffPo [1]:

"We have a civil partnership," he said, talking about he and longtime partner, David Furnish. "What is wrong with Proposition 8 is that they went for marriage. Marriage is going to put a lot of people off, the word marriage," he said to USA Today at a gala for his Elton John AIDS Foundation in 2008. "I don't want to be married. I'm very happy with a civil partnership. If gay people want to get married, or get together, they should have a civil partnership. The word 'marriage,' I think, puts a lot of people off."

Would you describe that as hateful?

1. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/21/elton-john-gay-marr...
There's a big difference between discriminating against a person based on their beliefs and trying to prevent discrimination based on beliefs. This comment is shocking in that you not only miss that difference, but imply that someone attempting to prevent discrimination is more likely to be a party to discrimination!

Holding a religious belief is one thing, and I'd be upset if OKC was discriminating against any group for holding a personal religious view. You cross a line when you try to outlaw something (that does not infringe on another's rights) based on personal or religious belief.

I don't care at all if Brendan Eich is or is not gay. I'd be saddened if he thought it was immoral, but grant him the right. What upsets me is that he's willing to donate money to organizations that, in my view, encourage discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs, so long as those beliefs don't lead to actions that infringe on the rights of others. I believe Brendan Eich has crossed that line, and that OKC is to be praised for exercising their right to free speech in defense of equality.
> Next, we feel that Bitcoin is best thought of as cash. Like, physical, printed notes. Websites don't actually accept USD, for example: they accept Visa, which is a financial instrument that happens to be denominated in USD. You can't mail a twenty dollar bill to most SaaS products: that'd be really silly, for a number of reasons.

But that's... why people want to pay for things with Bitcoins in the first place. They want to give you cash, digitally. If they didn't want the properties of cash, they'd just cash out their bitcoins into a regular bank account, and then use a regular credit card backed by that bank account to pay. That is far, far easier, and far more well-supported by current infrastructure. The fact that they're willing to suffer the vagaries of the Bitcoin system is precisely because they have a problem with using a "financial instrument built on top of cash."

Unless you accept Bitcoins with cash-like transaction semantics, you aren't going to get any transactions going through your system that weren't already going through it. Some people will choose to re-denominate transactions they could well have made in USD in BTC, but nobody's going to choose to pay with BTC where they previously wouldn't have paid at all. People who don't spend money unless it's in BTC are doing that because of BTC's cash-like transaction semantics, not because their wealth is somehow immutably denominated in BTC.
Yeah, but after reading their use and then privacy policy it sure looks like you have to be able to connect to their servers to start using it. I assume that if they go poof, so does your copies of application, short of cracking it. One would hope they have a provision for off-line use/starting it.
Square Market Partners With Coinbase To Accept Bitcoin
Yep, it is way beyond idiomatic time in germany ;). Thanks for the correction, you are right ;).
I disagree. There are actions which should be applied to oppressors and not the oppressed. Publicly embarrassing bigots is necessary to show that such beliefs will not be socially accepted; public embarrassment of minority groups is hatred.

Just a disclaimer: I fully support discrimination against bigots such as refusal of service.
Or Windows, XP or above.
We're redefining SaaS: Stroopwafels as a Service
Read Incessantly, business and tech blogs. The subconscious is this amazing place where startup idea incubation occurs. For me, as I read about all of the new things that exist, and all of the cool new technologies that are surfacing, my mind starts to make connections. I am then able to consider how such technologies could be expressed differently to solve other existing problems.
Google is hopefully going to fill the fiber internet gap. It's interesting to see Time Warner and AT&T scramble to put out their own "gigabit" services, after Google announces coming to Austin.
I haven't watched So You Think You Can Dance for a few years now, but at least when I was watching on a regular basis (seasons 3-6 or so), they did exactly what you're proposing they do, e.g. select highly skilled dancers. There were no "This person is bad at dancing but it's funny to watch them be terrible" getting past more than a round or two at the tryouts, and all of the top 20 contenders each season were legitimately talented and hard working professional-quality dancers. SYTYCD gets their quality (or at least did; again, I haven't watched it for a while) by taking very skilled dancers and pushing them out of their comfort zone; you can be skilled at classical ballet, but can you adjust and pull off a hard-hitting hip hop routine? You can breakdance at BOTY, but can you learn to waltz?

That's a very different type of challenge from "You can't dance, and we want to see if you can learn to dance before you explode", and that's part of why SYTYCD is a good show. Obviously it's a reality show and SYTYCD is going to have some compromises (for example, you might argue that the judge selection is suspect, or that the styles and choreographer choices are limited) but it was honestly pretty close to ideologically pure as you could get; the people who succeeded were the people who were good at dancing, not the people who were good at ballet or contemporary or hip hop or ballroom.
Yeah, unfortunately.
OkCupid Takes Public Stand Against New Mozilla CEO
> how much coverage this is getting in the international mainstream press.

Almost none. US based tech sites are reporting on it. I saw an article in the Guardian and HufPo as well. That's it. It's definitely not taking the world by storm.
There is now law. These are the house rules of a ministry in its role as an employer.
I was specifically referring to this case [1]. The status has gone back and forth several times on appeal, but it's most definitely an example of horrible bigotry.

[1] http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/christian-bb-...
Ask HN: Does anyone know why Brendan Eich donated?
I read his response...but he seemed like he was basically avoiding any mention of why he did...seems like he basically said "yeah, i donated to prop 8 but i support LGBT folks too."

Has he mentioned anywhere to anyone any motivation for why he donated? I can only assume he must be anti-gay
I'm confused. Can someone explain to me why I would want to buy this monitor, rather than, for example, the Seiki Digital SE50UY04 50-Inch 4K UHD 120Hz LED HDTV, which is available from Amazon for $700 too?

I already have a 27 inch IPS monitor with HD resolution, which was a nice upgrade to what I had before. The Seiki would give me 4K resolution with almost 4 times the display space. Am I missing something fundamental?
I wonder if Firefox users are more likely to use adblock.
Worked for me on Chromium just now.
Double AHEM..

http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/google-viewed-fac...
A norm just has to be common, not a majority. Voting for a major political party is a norm, regardless of whether your party wins or loses, for example.

I don't support his views, but to call them as 'not a norm' mischaracterises them and doesn't particularly help in finding tactics against them.
Well said.

This is mostly faux outrage. Brendan is one man, an easy target to scream and shout at.

Notice how nobody is protesting outside mosques and embassies where under Islam, the penalty for simply being gay, let alone getting married, is DEATH.
I don't understand why Microsoft doesn't drastically reduce the price of their Windows instances.

Microsoft is matching all of AWS prices, which means the Windows servers are more expensive than the Linux servers. Why not set your Windows server prices as the same as your Linux servers since you don't have to pay the licensing to yourself. This would make azure the easy choice for those running Windows servers.

Maybe I'm missing some anti-competition law here or something, but it sounds funny that Microsoft is price matching Amazon's prices on Microsoft Windows Servers.
This is really just internals for the ministry, in their role as an employer, yes.
Can anyone use the tool and search a few email address to attest the claim.
Weeks #7-8 How do I validate my SaaS product idea?
I say his beliefs are hateful because I believe it is hateful to say that different regulations should be applied to people based on how they were born, or how they choose to behave when that behavior is a personal decision not affecting others.

There are exceptions here and there, such as helmet and seatbelt laws, but I'm really talking about lifestyle choices.
I'm not the guy you're replying to, but:

It's going to take me months of my spare time to really get Haskell. I've got a lot going on in my life; I've got plenty of other uses for that time. If I'm going to use that time to learn Haskell, I want to know that the payoff is going to be there.

And saying "once you learn it, you will become enlightened", as if Haskell were Zen Buddhism and the benefits cannot be rationally discussed, well, that's not a very useful reply.

On the other hand, trying to explain to people the benefits of something they don't understand is really hard, because they don't understand it well enough to understand the benefits.

I think a big part of the OP's attitude might be in response to the attitude of a number of Haskell adherents: Our language is the greatest, and if you don't get why, it's because you're ignorant. If you've looked into Haskell and still don't get it, then you must not be bright enough to see the greatness of Haskell.

I exaggerate, but only a little. That kind of attitude makes the non-Haskell people resent the Haskell crowd, even if it's only a minority of the Haskell crowd that reeks of arrogance.

[Edit: I should state more strongly that the arrogant types are by far the minority, especially on HN.]
Now wonder How Recruiters were able to get my personal email.
Are USCIS greencard and H1-B “lotteries” in fact lotteries?
> But if they're being coerced by a desire not to get fired... well, 'Fuck you, pay me.' springs to mind.

Agreed. Exploiting = bad.
I use Linux :).
This actually made me remove my (dormant, but still) account on okcupid. I am absolutely a proponent of equal rights and I absolutely disagree with Brendan Eich's actions. Still I continue using Firefox and Thunderbird (and Javascript) as Mozilla remains the last really influential supporter of an open web. The efforts of the many Mozilla developers outweigh the hateful beliefs of one Eich.

Why then remove my okcupid account? I feel pushed, I feel that they tried to create a bad conscience, I feel emotionally manipulated. That's not how a business should treat me.
I feel like this is one of the few times where I've seen capitalism work clearly and unambiguously along the lines that Adam Smith had in mind. I'm deriving something approaching mischievous glee.
I've marked this title "[video]" as a way of communicating that it isn't launching an actual product. I admit that isn't a great way to distinguish product launches from fundraisers, but it fits with HN conventions. I think it's important to distinguish between posts that say "this thing's real" and posts that say "we'd like to make this thing real".

I'll make this comment stay at the bottom of the thread so any on-topic comments will rank higher.
Topic is an incorrect statement made in the article. This statement implied that Eich's actions were promoting outlawing homosexual relationships. There are countries where such laws still exist. Mentioning them and noting that there's a difference between facing prison for being in a homosexual relationship (which the article implied was something Eich was trying to achieve) and not being able to marry a same-sex partner is absolutely relevant. That's not a "logical fallacy". Calling it a logical fallacy on the other hand is.
Why are Newsweek's owners so anxious to hide their ties to a religious figure?
Look at the comments on http://indiestatik.com/2013/12/13/female-game-developers/ and despair.
Does this still occur if you put your virgin media hub into modem mode and use your own router?
Hopefully the pace of changes will slow down once we arrive on the correct core feature set and we sort out the bugs. An earnest thanks to HNers and others for being such great alpha testers BTW.
Process and Optimization – Sides of The Same Coin
They changed the portal a whole back and silverlight is no longer used. I hated it too. New one is very nice.
Currently, some number of people who use Bitcoin do, yes. There are also some people who only use open source software because they want full control, and there are some people who have piles of cash and gold underneath their mattresses.

Some don't. I personally happen to have some Bitcoin because people wanted to buy some things from me in Bitcoin, and spending it again directly as Bitcoin is waaay easier than trying to figure out how to convert it to USD for the sake of spending it again.
Elton John is mega-rich and is not a US Citizen, as well as surely having very well paid lawyers, so does not have the concerns that others have. Furthermore, many churches are accepting of LGBTQ folks and will perform marriages, including one in SF where a friend of mine used to be a pastor.

Rights are not about not upsetting people. If noone did anything that upset people, it would also be illegal to marry interracially. A lot of people alive today have a problem with that, and the government said: too fucking bad, kiddo.
Google Magic Hand
The notion that gender issues can exist outside of technology or culture is ridiculous, and an undercurrent that haunts many HN posts.

Silence, via shaming or suppression by a privileged status quo, perpetuates the prevailing stigmas and only serves to reinforce the very ignorance that birthed the attitudes.

While it might be uncomfortable for a privileged majority, we could all do well to at least be more open to dissenting opinions.

In this case, 8% of OKCupid’s “business” is directly related to the issue, so it seems precisely appropriate.
Also the management portal hasn't required Silverlight for at least a year now, it's all HTML5.

And if you don't want to use the portal then there's command line tools for both Node and Powershell.
On the screenshow of Humayun Khan's tweet it says "Click here to create an account". Does this mean that every email address that's not signed up with Coinbase yet will also get an email?
Thanks for your elaborate answer, Mindcrime !

I'm a native French and Kabyle speaker (meaning I started talking those since I could babble words), then learned Algerian dialect (which is the language we speak in the streets and is a mish-mash of Arabic, French, Kabyle, Turkish, Spanish and a whole bunch of languages of countries who invaded us). Then learned classical Arabic (the one used in poetry and literature).

I started communicating in English around 2009. I had been "reading" books and doc in English before that, but to articulate ideas, get subtleties and all was another matter.

The point is: What I learned in school was nothing. What I learned alone reading definitely helped. What I learned online communicating on forums, having to explain myself to people, elaborate, etc was the major game changer. It's not until then that my skills took off.

Also a clear decision to switch to all English: Meaning my OS, my search queries on Google, the pages I visit became all in English. It was hard in the beginning, since I was tempted to seek comfort, searching in a language I know and making the least effort. My brain ached and thought: I could be reading this in French and grasping it in 5 minutes, but I kept at it.

TV shows, movies, I watched all of those in English and stopped watching them in French. I had subtitles, but in English, since I already had the vocabulary, but missed idioms and having subtitles in French would defeat the purpose of "practicing".

Stopped translating in my brain: Used to translate English to French, and now comprehension was done on a pure meta English level.

Now I want to learn other languages. Mandarin and German, I suppose. I would love to learn Italian. I don't really like Spanish, but it's a useful language. Though it's not unusual to find people who speak it, and better.

I can understand text in Italian and Spanish (being a native French speaker). But I wouldn't be able to communicate in it.

My strategy for learning the other languages will be "RC time constant": Getting to 63.2%.

I won't write prose in English, but my current skills are more than enough to get by. That's what I shoot for, since it will probably take more time to go from 63.2% to full mastery (which will never happen, so why bother) than it would to go from 0 to 63.2%. Just like a capacitor charging will never really, mathematically speaking, reach the voltage of its charging source..

What's nice being Kabyle is that we can pronounce all sounds (the weird German sounds are part of our sounds, too) and we don't have "accents" (meaning that most of us speak languages like a native would).

So I'll start hanging out in Chinese and German fora. The difficulty, I suppose, is they have their own characters. But these are the quirks of the language I will embrace, and I won't be a "stupid tourist".
Wait. The guy is also the inventor of Javascript. Shouldn't everybody be boycotting that? I mean it has a lot more to do with him than Firefox does. After all, he's the CEO of Mozilla Corporation (not the Foundation), which is only indirectly connected to Firefox, but he _invented_ Javascript!

What am I missing here?
Flash uses ActionScript, which is an implementation of ECMAScript, which was designed by Brandan Eich. ECMAScript is a standardization of Javascript.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECMAScript
This is not about gay rights. This is about the married couple privileges being extended to gay couples.

Comparing this to the right of all humans to be treated like humans regardless of their skin color is downright outrageous.

Before you accuse me of something, I'm against any interference in the institution of marriage by states or churches. I'm also against tax/property/inheritance/pension/insurance privileges for married couples.
There's a pretty big difference between being forced into labor for the rest of your life and being separated from your family so that you can work for a large plantation owner who isn't afraid to whip, kill, torture or humiliate you and not being able to get a certificate saying you are legally obligated to someone.

What I'm excited for is the day when being anti-soda is no longer socially acceptable. There's already a movement against it and slavery was once socially acceptable so it has to happen, right?
Exactly what I say, but then when I donate to Al Qaeda everyone acts like I'm the villain, not the people who jail me for just believing in something.

I don't actually donate to Al Qaeda, and they're not equivalent to Eich, but the opinion expressed in your comment is applicable to both.
Try something like Mashery?
More likely his (assumed) belief that marriage can only be between a man and a woman stems from ignorance and his religion instead of bigotry or hate. And while that doesn't negate the harm that his donation caused: please stop comparing him to racists.

You don't know Brendan, I don't know Brendan, nobody in previous threads comparing him to fucking racists or the Nazis knows Brendan. It's disgusting, please stop.

>Should we be respectful for these often-arbitrary beliefs or should we try to make people/companies with these beliefs uncomfortable (but in kind/respectful way)? Honest question.

You should take the moral high ground and send him a personal communication detailing how his donation has caused harm.

No one's asking you to respect his belief, though, but this is just majorly unfair to everyone else who has contributed to Mozilla.