skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
> In a casual work environment people often do light exercise

Could you elaborate on this? In the work environments I've been in, people go to the gym or outside to work out. I've never been in a work environment where it's acceptable to do your exercising in the office space. What are you talking about -- yoga, bicep curls, jogging, jumping jacks? I've worked at extremely liberal companies but that kind of stuff doesn't happen..

> and they need to feel comfortable to do that without being turned into sex objects

I don't think it's a person's right to hula hoop in an office and then be upset when they attract the attention of the rest of the office, regardless of sex on both sides. It's an unusual thing to do, so it will draw eyes.
Why expect people to behave the way you want them to? If you don't like where you're sitting move, other people are not responsible for how you feel. Again are you a mind-reader how do you know what her intention was?

"Geeks might subconsciously want to backlash for their lack of sexual attention" wow, you have it backwards, not seeking sex by geeks does not mean they're secretly seeking it! Reason you're a geek is because you're dedicated to one thing and spend lots of time doing it and ignoring other things, because everything else has a lower priority. Many "outraged" women in tech and people like you don't seem to get that, it's not a reflection on those women it's a reflection on us.

We are men building shit. I am a male I am in tech if I could've make that more specific I would have. You have no right to impose on me what specificity level I wish to use in my speech or writings. You are right I am not a fairy I am real and I will stand up to this non-sense every time I see it. And hope others here are not intimidated by people like you or outraged women in tech or New York Times articles or complete crap pieces on Tech Crunch.
More likely, the focus effect is from the Taurine and Niacin.
Ask HN: Why not send an email instead of SMS for 2 factor?
When I'm logging onto a site on my phone, and I get a 2-factor SMS, it's great... the code just shows up at the top and I can type it right it.

But most of the time I'm getting a 2-factor text, I'm at my desktop. I think an emailed code would serve much the same security benefit and potentially be more convenient.

You could even let the user chose if they wanted to receive it via email or text each time they're challenged.
(1) Her "banging" a co-worker is his and her problem, not yours

(2) Neither side claims that said drama was related to said "banging"

(3) Grow up
What if they weren't gawking, but instead watching?

If you are hula hooping out in the open, I don't think it's fair to expect people to look away, no more than it is to expect people to look away if you were playing the hula hoop minigame in Wii Fit.

Gawking and making people feel uncomfortable = bad. Watching coworkers make fools of themselves = priceless.

> You are basically advocating the position of countries that require burqas in public.

Slippery Slope My Friend, Slippery Slope.
I recommend supporting other cryptocurrencies, particularly dogecoin.
I'd still bet on ocean crash. Flying low or not, heading across the Bay of Bengal towards land, and you're going to get pinged with military radar.
With unmarked soldiers.
ewww it sucks... like really, every decent game designer/programmer can come up with something much better than that on its spare time
That's fair, and Horvath's description is vague:

"What I did have a problem with is the line of men sitting on one bench facing the hoopers and gawking at them"

But it's important to remember these could go the other way as well. Horvath may still feel some loyalty to github and be sugar coating these events. Or you could be right and she is blowing them out of proportion.
If only airlines employed someone with your acumen. You are most definitely the first person ever to have that thought. But now that that is out of the way there is nothing in the way.
Definitely.

I think Julie should have spoken to both groups, telling the guys it's not cool to gawk at women, and tell the women if they want to hula hoop, do it some place more private.
When I arrived at this thread, comment two was 'using the information available in the short techcrunch article, I'm now going to PROVE, point by point, how Horvath's claims are false.'

Comment three was 'aha they issued a vague apology, this is basically a FULL ADMISSION that everything Horvath said was true!'

People: when did our brains melt and spill out of our ears? There is not enough public information present to reliably prove or disprove anything at this point; Github issued a nonspecific semi-apology (to wit: "It’s certain that there were things we could have done differently" well, yeah this is usually the case) with some promising indications that they are taking the issue seriously & looking into it.

Now we wait. Stop saying github is admitting to every point of Horvath's assertions! Stop saying Horvath is a liar! You don't know these things! Take deep breaths, listen for a bit, and wait for more information to come out.
We really don't know much more than comms went down, no problems were reported, plane went up/down in altitude in the extreme (killing passengers?), headed west into the Indian ocean and either headed north or crashed into the ocean.
> Btw, does anyone know who this ip(216.151.137.36) belongs to

FWIW, I see this ip hitting my spider trap too. 14 requests in 30 seconds on March 14th, and 21 requests in 45 seconds on Feb 20th.
I don't see how this is any of our business. Is HN a gossip rag? Because otherwise this is just two indirect blobs of hearsay directed at each other.
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This is a marketing plan, not a business plan.

Accept other forms of payment. If you feel strongly about Bitcoin, that's great. Accept it as a payment form. Advertise to all bitcoin savvy users. But you are destining yourself to fail by only accepting Bitcoin.

Also, not sure your readership. But it probably makes more sense to do a subscription, cause someone that sends you a few dollars won't likely send you more. And your regulars are the ones who will pay. Not the random-google-passer-by.
>Cars are stolen everyday, it's a common thing, for planes it is not.

from time to time planes crash over ocean and search for black boxes may take years like Air France 447 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447#Underwate...)
This is a satire. (note the author)
Point is a $100 spot device could be added (powered by Li AA's) as a backup system. This would have independent power supply and obviate the "need for cicuit breakers" being accessed. Or something like a lo-jack or whatever. Its completely embarassing to Boeing. Almost as bad as the pilot has a 64mb i phone and the [edit: voice recorders] holds only 2hrs? WTF. An Iphone might not itself survive, but the media allocations for the seem absyrdly low.
What I think you're missing is that we are only 20 or 30 years out of office environments in which women were primarily there to answer phones and to be looked at.
Depends on what you'd call a "machine", and how "raw" your raw materials are.

Bob Freitas wrote an open-sourced book on this a decade ago: http://www.molecularassembler.com/KSRM.htm

For simple tinkertoy-ish machines, floating in a sea of parts, and sitting on a shaker table, (to provide power) it's already been done.

For anything with a microchip in it, full closure would require machine-phase nanotechnology. Partial replication should be possible with conventional technology, (a "clanking replicator" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clanking_replicator ) if you supply the replicators with "vitamin" parts they can't produce themselves. (Chips, stepper motors, anything made of rare minerals)

A lot of work was put into this for the Advanced Automation for Space Missions study in 1980, a proposal for a solar panel factory on the Moon that would build more solar panel factories: http://www.islandone.org/MMSG/aasm/
The important bit for minimizing politics is sharing the salaries internally. Posting everybody's salary on the Internet seems a bit... promotional.
If someone else is running a reasonably powered radar from more than one known location at a known frequency (both the broadcast frequency and, say, a pulse every 0.5 seconds), is there a technical reason that you couldn't use the echos from their radar without broadcasting your own?
You seem to completely misunderstand. People using, forking or contributing to your projects do not want their user experience to be controlled by you. They want their own familiar user experience.

Of course it's a fun project, but it's really meta. Wouldn't it be more fun to work on one of your actual projects ?
But it doesn't effect my life. Being an avid traveler and flown on a 777 numerous times and flew with Malaysia Airlines I want to know what happened.
What does a semi-gangrape at a metal concert has to do with an innocent silly act in a SF office? Nobody forced anything on anybody... If you are so much hatred just move your desk to the other side of the building or work from home your just freakin' get a life before start any interaction with other human beings...
At least express your opinion with this statement instead of just leaving a questionable open ended statement.

Do I see any sexism against the wife of the co-founder from GitHub's statement? No

If you'd like to continue the discussion then go ahead and provide something of worth.

This comment is ironic I know, but these kind of posts derail the debate.
How is the damage of a lawsuit different to the damage of their brand? It's one and the same.
That's not that low.
After all that has happened, anything seems possible. Don't give up hope.
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It crashed. If the hijackers have landed the plane successfully, they would have made their motives and demands known to the world by now.
It's an archetype of the "evil queen" character from myth. Example image: http://static.tvgcdn.net/MediaBin/Content/120102/News/5_fri/...
Or amber on black, depending on what what terminals were available in the lab.

As I recall, I coped with Usenet. In some ways, the Internet used to be much better than it is now.
Wait time, time spend bouncing around various departments and "executives" and "supervisors" are worse than that.
I may be missing something, but this seems like a very misleading headline.

The actual article states that the plane "dropped 5,000 feet (1,500m)" and later that the "twinjet descended 1,500m or even lower". This simply means that the plane descended by a relatively small amount compared to 35,000 - 40,000 foot cruising altitudes, not that it was skimming the ground at 5,000 feet.
Honest question. Would it have been possible for the plane to make it to North Korea?
I wouldn't necessarily read that in and of itself ominously. They said that as they were leaving Malaysian air traffic control jurisdiction. That the ACARS had already been disabled is what's interesting.
> Could you elaborate on this?

I've seen yoga, weights, and those things you compress, basically stuff to get the blood flowing again. Hoola hooping is probably a bit more admittedly, but not that extreme. Especially since it sounds like it was happening outside.

> I don't think it's a person's right to hula hoop in an office and then be upset when they attract the attention of the rest of the office, regardless of sex on both sides. It's an unusual thing to do, so it will draw eyes.

You are missing the point. Horvath wasn't the one hoola hooping. She was a bystander, and the gawking was making her feel uncomfortable because it implies a work environment where it is ok to sexually objectify your co-workers (or that seems to be how she took it). But this is an(other) HR failure.
The only circumstances in which they would be alive would be if it was a hijacking, the plane landed relatively safely, and they were being held hostage & incommunicado somewhere. It does seem the unlikeliest of possibilities at this point.
Guaranteed lawyers have already contacted her after hearing about this assuring her she has a big settlement waiting, which she probably does. Github will just want to make this go away and prevent her from shit talking the brand anymore and money is the answer
India claims to not have their military radar on all the time. "Too costly."
Hula hooping in a non-private space is equivalent to screaming "LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!" If people are hula hooping, regardless of whether they are male or female, people are going to look. If the women were working on a laptop, or having a quiet conversation, and THEN men were gawping, that would be unacceptable. Want to hula hoop without being looked at? Do it in a private space.

> You are basically using the same logic as countries that require burqas in public.

Of course, because saying that "if you do attention-attracting activities in public, people are going to look, deal with it" is the same as saying "women must cover themselves head to toe in public."
What a poorly written article. It twice says that the plane "dropped/descended 1500m," when it should be written "dropped TO [an altitude of] 1500m." (assuming I'm understanding the article correctly). A newspaper should at least have sufficient grammar standards to clearly convey the main point of a story.
Amen. I had to do double takes in the past few years when I read about some tech thing at SXSW. This year I thought there must have been a hash collision on SXSW and I was reading about some other convention or conference.

It's like CES suddenly becoming all about crazy Ukrainian 36-bit vinylcore bands that were barely allowed into the country because CBP was afraid they'd claim asylum.
So if I would watch two woman while they play table tennis it would be inappropriate? This is silly :). I don't see any difference between hula hooping and playing table tennis or darts. If someone wants to see how sexy is that they can do it with both.
Out of whose control?
My wild guess: I think the plane was hijacked and taken to Iran (as there were iranians in the plane with stolen passport) or to Pakistan.
You can't make blanket statements like that. It depends on where the vulnerability is.

For example, Vista has a substantially-rewritten networking stack. A networking exploit in Vista would not necessarily translate over to XP.

On the other hand, there's a lot of legacy code around in GDI+ for decoding graphics formats. A file format exploit would be highly likely to carry over to XP.
Getting rather bored with folks around me who seem to be treating this like it's another HBO boxset. I agree with you - and I think a lot of people just really seem to enjoy the experience of speculating and entertaining these fantastical, mysterious theories. The reality is that it probably landed in the drink some time ago.
I think their wit was clouded by their desire to be a twat.
Confirmed here, you may just be picking up a typo:

"There are reports around in the last hour or so, claiming new information that the plane dropped <to> an altitude 5000 feet"

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/17/mh370-contact-m...
Not without refueling somewhere. They didn't have enough gas to make it too far past Beijing. [0]

[0]- http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/interactive/2014/03/world/malays...
With 1st hand experience on aeronautics devices, i can tell you the "tech moves slow on planned because of extensive testing" is pure disinformation used copiously by everyone in the industry benefiting from that lie. Yeah, it is tested, like in several other industries.

<quote> Then there is a cost vs risk calculation thrown into the equation here. How often does a plane just vanish like this? It doesn't happen very often and probably not enough to warrant spending hundreds of millions of dollars implementing a terrorist proof tracking/data collection system.

Somebody gotta tell that to the nsa.
"It’s certain that there were things we could have done differently." heh... this doesn't read like a "straight-up apology" to me. It doesn't acknowledge even a whit of wrongdoing. Note also that Wanstrath says he "would like to personally apologize to Julie," [emphasis added], not that Github is apologizing or that he's apologizing on Github's behalf.

I'm not saying "they should apologize and I know it" because I don't know it, I know practically nothing of the situation, but this is no "straight up apology."
The actions that Github has taken lends credibility to what Horvath has said. Of course, we'll not know the whole truth until sometime in the future, if ever.

Even if this episode were only hypothetical, this episode reminds me that many people have poor decision-making abilities, even if they are super intelligent. A co-founder of a company like Github would and should have a very good brain and very good decision-making prowess. And yet, here we see instances of him possibly:

1. Not being able to identify boundaries between his personal life and his work life, and allowing factors from his personal life to influence his work life, possibly very negatively (magnified by his position at the company).

2. Not being able to communicate with people and ascertain the truth of the matter. Someone had to lie to cause him to accuse Horvath of lying: either his wife lied or Horvath lied, and he didn't appear to do a good job of getting the truth and resolving the situation.

3. Having perhaps made a poor marriage decision. I would not be surprised if everyone downvotes me for this speculation, and am sorry if this ruffles features. But if this episode is true, there are very few ways that this co-founder's marriage comes out looking good. Either he's absolutely insensitive to the needs of his company or he's completely whipped by a woman who cares more about herself than him. If it's a poor marriage decision, he wouldn't be the first person in history, people from all walks of life seem to make poor marriage decisions all the time.

In the end, I am reminded again that people are messy, and no matter how intelligent they appear to be, they can still have the potential to act stupidly.
It's amazing to me that Kickstarter allows delinquent creators to start another project.
Yes, but the FDR is designed to survive multi-g impacts - how well would that smart phone survive?
And not firing a shot, with a welcoming populace...
Um... every unlikely theory except for one is going to turn out to be wrong, and we don't know what happened yet.
Where do you get the 2 hour FDR capacity from? I've found references for 17-25 hours.
Thanks for this. Not too common that good art appears here.
> GitHub is not a scrappy startup anymore; it's a 1 billion dollar company

Yeah, let's kill all the fun.

> You do not allow strangers to walk around the office

Except that she wasn't a stranger, she was the wife of a founder. Most old employees probably know her.
Solid state storage is pretty resilient.
I have a hard time coming to terms with people talking in definite terms regarding subjective issues, this is such a case. This is speculation fueled by your subjective views.

Yes, as a person with libertarian socialist views I do have a bias towards the non-hierachical ideal of organizations. But I wouldn't jump on the opportunity to argue my point - in definite terms - based on individual cases.

I think there's a couple of things that need to be said here:

* What do we mean by structureless? Even the most bottom-up anarchistic organization would have a clear structure (e.g. a syndicalist union) but no people with long periods of unchallenged authority like traditional managers usually have.

* We are fooling ourselves if we compare a organization with bottom-up social organization with participation as the goal, with a modern company with profit and growth as the goal. As such; "regardless of its goals" is just too unnuanced.

* I know that the role of unions in the states is almost non-existant, especially in our industry, but where I live and work, Sweden, the issues at Github may have been addressed with help of the employee's union.

So I think that individual cases is not enough to challenge the whole premise of "self-organizations". People of questionable nature will exist in all kinds of organisations, and a fast growing organization will have many challenges to keep a good culture and weed out potential trouble.

It's just too easy to jump on the bandwagon of "we need managers, people can't handle the freedom". That sort of sentiment is also what's been the view of the totalitarian organizational structure of large businesses for as long as one can remember - so it's not hard to get unquestioning support for, especially as it serves a lot of peoples self-interest (namely people that's climbing the proverbial ladder).

Finally; there is a large organizational gap between the totalitarian corporate structure and the most bottom-up anarchistic ideal. My views leans to the latter, but I realize that what's most aligned to the goals of a profit driven company may be somewhat further to the structure of the former. Furthermore I think this article is pretty much in complicance with what I would expect of an organization based on anarchist principles - highly organized, but strictly bottom-up. Apart from maybe a bit too much focus on peoples inherent need, according to her, to seek power.
This is how I also felt when I read the claims: things are far from certain. The claims were so vague, it's impossible to know what's going on. And her vagueness itself could mean anything. It could mean she's lying/exaggerating, or it could mean she's being conscientious of the people involved and trying not to ruin their lives or trash github.

It's surprising to me that a lot of comments here are jumping to conclusions that can't be drawn from the lack of facts.
Just a slight correction: The distance from Earth to the edge of the observable universe is 46 Gly, not 13.7 Gly, because of the metric expansion of space.
The only real issue GitHub can address here is harassment during work.

I don't recall reading about an uninvited advance, so if this is something new you know about could you dump a citation here. I do recall a home visit which was 'awkward' and the offending party 'hesitated' to leave. That stuff happens, in and outside of work. Remember the parties here are emotionally invested and biased. We should not consider such details trivial, but they are considerably emotionally invested in this. The way it was phrased in the original article was he hesitated to leave. That's obviously up to the reader to interpret. Let's not dramatize that into an 'univited advance'.
I guess I don't understand how UEFI is inherently less free than BIOS. I assume most of of the opposition is due to secure boot, but every implementation I've used let the user manage keys for secure boot or disable it entirely. Are there other reasons that UEFI is a threat to computing freedom?
> What a poorly written article. It twice says that the plane "dropped/descended 1500m," when it should be written "dropped TO [an altitude of] 1500m."

As it turns out, only the headline suggests that the plane descended to an altitude of 1500m, not the article body, which always says the aircraft descended 1500m. The headline includes the words "MH370 flew as low as 1,500m to avoid detection" [emphasis added], but this language is never repeated in the article itself.

It's important also to say this article may have been translated from Malay, which could affect its readability.

> A newspaper should at least have sufficient grammar standards to clearly convey the main point of a story.

Fair enough, but I think the headline didn't originate with the source of the article.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/15/us-malaysia-airlin...

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/malaysia/1070...
So spot on. Considering recent privacy issues, Github needs to be careful to respond on this. It has potential to explode into an entirely separate shitstorm.