skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Probably not very long. But I'd wager they've known since at least this morning. Given last night's resignation of Mt. Gox from the Foundation, I'd say since last night.
It was in fact changed.
did you folks read the code?
Hilarious! I never see confirmation bias in action so much as when SO answers get posted on HN:

"See, this is exactly what's wrong with SO."

"Really? Because it seems like a perfect example of why SO works perfectly."

Of course, I find I am increasingly disposed to read the comments that way...
Perhaps I'm just a conspiracy theorist, but, I gotta believe Coinbase knows some stuff they can't talk about by being a member of the Bitcoin Foundation (that Mt Gox just stepped down from). I imagine what happened is Coinbase slipped and revealed information they shouldn't have, and then retracted it.... I was going to pay off my student loans with those coins, damn it!
Better link to the video http://youtu.be/kuLzjwkXxZw?t=2m50s from youtube without the annoying space.com monetization
Ha, right. And they're asking for a bailout.

Wasn't Bitcoin supposed to be different?
That is pretty clearly intentional.

It's hand-drawn. It's not something that someone was going to type over later.

Chipotle bags have all kinds of different wacky, rambly messages written on them. It would not at all be out of place for them to say "hey, let's just throw in a Lorem Ipsum, then a few design nerds will be amused by the bag".
The study measures the pH over 48 hour period near the entrance of stomach. This helps determine the frequency and strength of acid reflux into esophagus from stomach to assess the severity of gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD). Typically, capsule is placed in esophagus during the endoscopy.

Based on my readings before the procedure, in my opinion, BRAVO capsule technique is currently the most advanced, accurate,and convenient method compared to previously used methods such as stents/catheter.

More info http://my.clevelandclinic.org/services/esophageal_ph_test/hi...

I am not sure what do you mean by eliminating the study. How else are you going to measure the pH to detect acid reflux in esophagus.
People have been accusing MtGox of being insolvent for years and the malleability stuff has been going on for weeks. Plenty of time to whip up some damage control.
Maybe he's on a flight? Its not really necessary that it be signed by everyone at each company.
> the digital currency industry.

It's like the beanie baby industry, minus the stuffed animals.
Sounds like you should stick with Bernankes.
Yeah, the one ring to rule them all problem. One bad employee, or one of the many rails zero-day issues, potentially compromises the site indefinitely for all eternity.
It's not broken, it's working as intended.
Wouldn't that make it a Ponzi scheme then?
Dell once made me promise this before it would sell me a laptop bag.
The statement doesn't imply anything about a insolvency
If it's a hoax, I wonder if it is trolling companies as well. These headlines just flashed across the terminal:

*COINBASE RELEASES STATEMENT ON MT. GOX INSOLVENCY
*COINBASE SAYS MT. GOX VIOLATED TRUST OF USERS

Edit: Ah, joint statement by:

Fred Ehrsam — Co-founder of Coinbase
Jesse Powell — CEO of Kraken
Nejc Kodrič — CEO of Bitstamp.net
Bobby Lee — CEO of BTC China
Nicolas Cary — CEO of Blockchain.info
Jeremy Allaire — CEO of Circle
Sounds a lot like IRC
At the systems level, C compiler and POSIX API are pretty much a given. Once you venture beyond that the platforms start becoming very different. But you could note that except for Microsoft Windows, all the other environments you mention are basically variants of Unix. So you will find pretty much the same facilities if you stay close to the hardware level - which in my lexicon is what systems level is all about.

If you need a GUI, you could consider that HTML5 compliant browsers are everywhere. You would only need to write a minimalist web server (there are hundreds of examples around) to interface your systems level stuff to a user interface.

Perhaps if you gave some more information you'd get more pertinent suggestions. Why neglect the literature? How can you expect to write systems level stuff without a solid foundation of knowledge????
Or someone clued them in to the same thing I mentioned, that they didn't really NEED that headline. It still read very well without it.
Because he's not self-hosting his website. He's using a S3 bucket, and the "normal" way of doing that is to CNAME to a S3-owned hostname, so Amazon can then mess with the IP address behind the scenes without telling you to update your A record.
The topic of dilapidated mansions on "Billionaire's Row" in London was also discussed on the Keiser Report, episode 558, Feb 4, 2014: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni9AfsK5EdY&t=437

The housing bubble is fueled by central bank money printing. This is a good reminder of the problems caused by speculating with bank created debt: "Speculation, therefore, is to be condemned on two grounds: First, because it is a non-productive business; and, secondly, because it diverts wealth from productive business, thereby disturbing prices and adding to the burdens of society." Quoted from "The Bank as a Promoter of Speculation", p. 658, March 1872, http://books.google.com/books?id=QuMzAQAAMAAJ

"non-productive": Speculation on these homes not only fails to create new wealth, it also destroys existing wealth--these homes are falling into disrepair because the owners don't want or need to maintain them. Their prices will rise, even if they fall apart.

"diverts wealth from productive business": If I own a factory that actually creates wealth, even if it is profitable, unless it is as profitable as real estate speculation, then market forces are going to lead me to (1) raise my prices as much as I can get away with and demand my workers accept cuts to pay and benefits; or, if that's not enough, (2) liquidate my factory, fire my entire work force, and bet my capital on real estate. In this respect, central bank money-printing and the speculative bubbles it creates can be seen to be both deflationary (i.e., creates unemployment and puts downward pressure on wages) and inflationary (i.e., creates shortages and higher prices for consumer goods as well as higher prices for speculative assets) at the same time.
Check out the URL that's linked in the OP. It includes the word "insolvency", and then redirects to the appropriate place.
TimeMachine to a Btrfs RAID 1+0 NAS (hourly), BackBlaze (continous) and AWS Glacier fortnightly. I also use Carbon Copy Cloner to make a bootable backup about once/month (when I remember).
MtGox.com is offline
Unit 8200 is very well regarded. I've only encountered them post-8200 service in the commercial world, though -- I'm sure the unit itself is very focused on domestic and near-abroad threats.
Yes, note the URL linked from this page (which now redirects to a new URL) includes "the-insolvency-of-mtgox": http://blog.coinbase.com/post/77766809700/joint-statement-re...
It's probably not of much use to the NSA where breaking encryption requires precise math that will fail quickly if operations are off by 1%.
https://www.mtgox.com -- The site is now blank
My experience with programmers.stackexchange.com is that it's even worse. I won't go near that place.
Nope, the document accounts for that. It claims there is a massive additional amount of USD missing besides what was seized—with no explanation of how the money went missing.
It's not really a limitation, per se. It's intentional behavior. Most people just use CNAMEs to as a sort of "A record redirect", but really they're for all records. You're saying "the canonical name for foo.com is blah.bar.com", and that means for everything: A, MX, NS, SOA, etc.
Mtgox.com is gone
Um, no. The vast majority of people even among wealthy/high-tech countries have absolutely nothing to do with MtGox, and people in the rest of the world are even more distant from it. It might loom large on the horizon for you and for a significant percentage of HN users, but let's not completely lose perspective here.
You should read more. http://www.upenn.edu/pennpress/book/14435.html
Since a Hacker News participant first told me about Bitcoin Ticker[1] (back when a regulatory action in China caused a sharp drop in Bitcoin prices in U.S. dollars), the Bitcoin price has dropped still more. That's not the kind of volatility I look for in an investment.

[1] http://bitcointicker.co/
We aren't "running out of bits", but we have a highly limited amount of time and screen real-estate.

The reason it was marked as such was so that other people didn't waste time on an unreproducible problem until it was fixed to be reproducible.

At worst, it sits there and wastes many people's time, thus getting in the way of actually reproducible questions getting seen and answered.

Note, that this is not regarding this one question, but thousands - certainly there are a large number of items selected for moderator action.
Not necessarily - there could be a variety of reasons that other companies would pitch in to cover holders of BTC in Mt Gox - not the least of which is faith in the bitcoin economy as a whole. There's nothing about an unregulated currency that means "screw you".
Revolutions stop being fun when you're the one who's bleeding...
Before the news of gox's massive 740k BTC loss, I had considered the possibility that a competing exchange would buy out MtGox, cover the small hole in customer balances (10-50k BTC) and gain a larger customer base while also boosting the confidence of the bitcoin community.

A "bailout" could have been mutually beneficial. 740k BTC is way too much.
MegaUpload became Mega, so why can't MtGox become Gox? Their slogan could be "you've been Goxed!"
Next Airbnb right there.
Why should they help MtGox or its customers?
Why must that require regulation? They're calling for a meme that informed actors probably wouldn't do business with exchanges that don't provide those "requirements".
While many misinterpret the the facts, there's a kernel of truth in those discussions that you gloss over.

GMail is not secure against the NSA or even a state judge's warrant. That has numerous advantages for society but regardless it's not and never will be secure against government orders. That's never been its design. Levinson's service was secure against them for certain clients.

The reason the anti-NSA crowd is intrigued by him is the same reason sources told their secrets to Bob Woodward. He proved willing to protect Deep Throat's identity despite immense effort to out it. Similarly Levinson was willing to risk his business and contempt proceedings to protect Snowden.
The first sentence has now been edited to remove the word "insolvency".
Whoa, I just noticed the CEO of Circle is one of the creators of ColdFusion.
Hi:
I'm the co-founder and CEO of CloudFlare. This can be a problem with some mail servers (especially Exchange, in our experience). Good news is we have a solution. We have a feature called CNAME Flattening which dynamically turns a CNAME at the root into an IP address. This solves the issue. We've beta tested this for the last few months and it works great. We haven't exposed in our UI yet but if you write to our support team we'll enable it. We're offering it to all our customers, even as the free tier. We plan to roll it out in our UI soon. Functionally, it's very similar to services that have an "Alias" record without requiring users to learn a new, non-standard DNS record type.

Matthew Prince (@eastdakota)
Co-founder & CEO, CloudFlare
1) It's a huge pain to set up a single Windows system for offline updates now.

2) My opinion of Schneier's technical competence, at least on a tactical level, is not actually (nor has it ever been) particularly high. He's a Windows guy, and "management level". He is a good politician and spokesperson. He's still good enough for this particular thing, and much better at the human side, and essentially famous/rich enough to be immune from legal action as long as he's careful, and well known to people like GG. So, a good choice.
Look at browser adaption for a possible time frame. It took time before websites used new cool features like html5, and even longer before they stop supporting older versions like IE4 or WAP/WML.
Rsync (cron) to a home NAS daily. SVN for code and work documents.
It's a shame there isn't a standard means to associate keypairs with existing phone numbers in a way that doesn't involve establishing new trust. A <your_phone_number_here>.yourcarrier.com DNSSEC secured subdomain provided by your existing carrier that can be coupled with BrowserID perhaps. All you need is a cryptographic tie-in, right?
This does not prove anything. Anybody can point a domain to any IP address.
Wow, watching this thing unfold is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
Macminicolo. Best deal. Been a customer since 05
Has ATT/Comcast cut deals like this before? This really seems like something out of Sopranos/House of Cards.
Codecha: CAPTCHA for coders
To quote Bill Nye - I find this claim to be extraordinary.
download the PDF - click on Comments. Delete all the comments and you can see all the numbers
On the one hand you should cut people some slack. Content First = noob (okay, that's probably unfair but...)

I've worked on projects with 300 + lines (yea, not many) but that had to be translated into 17 languages. That's 5100 things that need to be checked. I know of games that with all the localization had over 40,000 dialog audio files (yes, that's four zero k).

Content First doesn't work on big projects IMO. In fact with "agile" you won't even know what content you need until you get there.

That said, with a little forethought it would certainly be possible to try to design some system so you could at least kind of auto verify that at least all your placeholder stuff has been replaced with something not placeholder. For example if you prefixed all placeholder text with "PLACEHOLDER: " and then had a script that would check. Could probably do similar things for audio files though it might be a little harder.

Unfortunately for people adding new text or audio if they forgot to follow the rules you'd have a hole. I suppose you could require first check in to follow the placeholder rules? Or maybe someone has a better idea

Now for a project I worked on. If you play the US Crash Team Racing (CTR) on PS1 and unlock Penta Penguin (IIRC), and then race with him you'll hear "test sound 1" and "test sound 2". I don't remember how many sounds there are in CTR but Penta Penguin was only really in the game for the Japanese version which could only be unlocked by going to a promotional event and getting a special save stored on your memory card. So, being a relatively secret character no one play tested him in the USA and no one bothered to go over the 1000s of sound files to see which ones were still placeholders until after it shipped.
They shouldn't, but there seems to be the expectation that the community will step in and help MtGox out of this mess for the sake of Bitcoin.

It isn't going to happen as MtGox has been a boil that's needed to be lanced for a while now. This is the first step given that MtGox has decided to stay silent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_A119

We almost found out. As insane as that plan was, it was relatively sane compared to this, and similar, tests:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_Prime
If you join the MTGOX irc channel its like watching the soviet union collapse.
I simply treated others the way I would want to be treated.
This is the same as the #1 post, except with the changed URL.
Accidental community builders are my favorite.
So why is my 1GIG ssd drive not the size of 8 of these microSD cards? In fact I could easily fit 16 of these cards in USB stick. Someone MAKE IT SO! :D
He's talking about the radioactive boy scout.

Also he was talking in hyperbole.
if they hadn't done it so piecemeal it wouldn't be so interesting.

Quick get it out of the headline!

You idiot, it's still in the url!

You fool, it's right in the first sentence!

Damnit, the first letter of every line spells out "insolvency"!
As an aside, do you have any info on the visual software used to run the charts? I'm guessing d3 is there somewhere., but maybe not. I've struggled to find a beautiful charting library and yours are beautiful!
I said several times that Mt.Gox needed an independent financial audit. Even after this announcement it still does.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uss_Jimmy_Carter
Hold. The. Phone...

Are you telling me that this unregulated, nonsense, digital currency, that the entire nerd community masterbates over incessantly, is waste of time, total insecure mess, that is prone to massive theft?

That is just horrible. Really really terrible.

God forbid the technical community focuses on something that matters, and we all go back to using dollars, yen, or what have you, and then continue to use normal banks and regulated methods of transfer, like any of the hundreds of online payment companies that do this every day without a problem.

I hope Bitcoin, Dogecoin, Kanye West Coin, and all these other stupid currencies die a fast fiery death. Good riddance.

Another thought...I would literally imprison everyone even using crypto-currency if I had the chance. The only thing this is used for is for drugs, hacking, wares, child pornography, and other sorts of crime; The entire Bitcoin community is comprised of anarchist, anti-government nut jobs, socialists, and commies. We would be doing the world a favor by locking them up and throwing away the key.
This sort of thing is why finance is a regulated industry.

Although why anyone would have had money in Mt. Gox after they had their stateside accounts frozen is beyond me. It's not like there weren't any warning signs http://www.techmeme.com/130620/p53#a130620p53
It sounds like self-regulation. If exchanges would just prove solvency periodically (which is possible with the blockchain), the whole world could see it. Wouldn't it be nice if you could see the balance sheet of your bank, in a way that accountants couldn't lie about it?
For those just tuning in: at about 6pm PST Gox shut down their trading engine, but the site was still up.

There's a supposedly internal document floating around that describes Gox's insolvency plan (which many consider a hoax).

Then this joint letter which initially used the word "insolvency" in the title but was edited several minutes later.
This feels like taking advantage of Gox's demise.
Without doing a lot of due diligence, it might be hard to figure out which exchanges are well run. And its not like lying to auditors etc hasn't been done before.

Maybe the exchanges can join together and offer something like FDIC Insurance?
The officers handling passports, immigration, and customs are not TSA agents. They are CBP officers. The original post incorrectly refers to them as TSA officers.
Well, it looks like that document was not a hoax:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/209050732/MtGox-Situation-Crisis-S...

Related:
http://blog.coinbase.com/post/77766809700/joint-statement-re...
Is this a houseboat, power boat, sailboat? I've heard benchmarks of general maintenance for sailboats (even freshwater, ignoring the additional corrosive effects of salt air) that add up to several thousand dollars a year even when brand new (hull cleaning, paint, dockline replacements, the many many small parts that need to be replaced every few years to stay in seaworthy condition, etc). I'm curious how your experience compares.
I guess I wasn't talking about people on the fence, I was thinking more about those that either participating by proxy, or participating directly. However, I may disagree with your claim that social pressure would alienate people on the fence. Bush's 'you are either with us or against us', was surprisingly effective politics at the time.
If the other post is to believed, they have around 740,000 BTC. There are roughly 12,400,000 coins total at the moment. That pegs Mt. Gox's share at 6%.
That's regulations with a multilateral peer enforcement mechanism. Conveniently enough it serves as a barrier to entry to new competitors. So if you were wanting to start a bitcoin exchange, you may have missed the boat.
How this plays out will be very interesting. Sure, I've studied bank runs, and currency events in school, but to actually see it as it happens...I hope economists are paying attention, there could be some awesome research coming out of this whole event!
wow, that was fast
I was trying to get a copy of my transaction history at the time, after someone mentioned it might be handy in a class action suit

First the server started responding "this page does not exist" then just blank response

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http://data.mtgox.com/api/2/BTCUSD/money/ticker

is still online right now

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http://www.reddit.com/user/SarahCoinBit

It was a pleasure serving this community..marion and myself just got laid off.

(very likely fake...)

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http://siliconangle.com/blog/2014/02/24/coinbase-blockchain-....

Sources close to the issue, in touch with SiliconAngle, have confirmed that more than 700,000 bitcoins are indeed missing from MtGox’s coffers as has been rumored during the history running up to this shutdown.

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for anyone catching up, gox.com seems to be sold to mtgox.com in the last few days

http://www.domaininvesting.com/andy-booth-sells-gox-com/

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/209050732/MtGox-Situation-Crisis-S...

likely fake "MtGox Situation Crisis Strategy Draft" suggesting coins went missing over a long period

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http://goxbalance.com/

not scientific but interesting

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http://support.mtgox.com/

has gone down - just a zendesk "no account" page

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http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/1yuuok/daily...

good reddit overview comment

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(11:27:31 PM EST )something changed in the output of http://data.mtgox.com/api/2/BTCUSD/money/ticker; a unicode character

"value":"96836.53176413","value_int":"9683653176413","display":"96,836.53\u00a0BTC","display_short":"96,836.53\u00a0BTC","currency":"BTC"},"last_local

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(11:30 PM EST) LTC/EUR showing up in https://data.mtgox.com/api/2/LTCUSD/money/ticker

"value":"0.00000000","value_int":"0","display":"0.00\u00a0LTC","display_short":"0.00\u00a0LTC","currency":"LTC"},"last_local": {"value":"0.00000","value_int":"0","display":"0.00\u00a0\u20ac","display_short":"0.00\u00a0\u20ac","currency":"EUR"},"last_orig"

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http://recode.net/2014/02/24/the-mt-gox-bitcoin-exchange-has...

“Mt. Gox has confirmed it will file bankruptcy in private discussions with other members of the bitcoin community.”

(Re/code has so far been unable to independently verify that claim)

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http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1yuyx4/hey_charlie_...

takeover rumours from Charlie Shrem
After the first rumblings of problems at MtGox, I moved my BTC over to a local wallet. Best decision I made all last year!
If by "regulation" you mean "cryptographic proof of solvency", then yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7277865

Bitcoin itself has the potential to replace the need for certain types of regulation entirely, but we're not there yet.
Mitochondrial DNA is only 17k base pairs. More important is the two main DNA copies per cell. But if you really want impressive numbers look at certain species of amphibians and plants that reach the 100 billion base pair range.
I cannot comprehend why there are not many more flash drives with the form factor of the Cruzer Fit.
Is Flappy Bird really so much fun? I quickly lost interest after losing a few times.
3Mth
Never assume something is common knowledge! I've seen many links to mathematics things here on HN that I would consider "common knowledge" yet many people were unaware of them.
Hello, downsides of unregulated currency. Some of the rules are there for a reason.
As someone with horrible reading speed, the demo on their home page worked pretty well. I'd like to see a demo with some more advanced text. Marketing language is pretty easy to digest quickly. I'd like to see a selection from Gödel, Escher, & Bach or something to see how well I could comprehend more dense texts.