skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Well, first and foremost: congrats on 26 years. And my hat's off to you for four. Until you have your second, you don't realize that the workload is not a linear progression!

But in reference to the article in question: would this system work for you? If not, isn't there a chance it really won't work for these people, for the same reason?

I'm pretty confident it wouldn't work for my wife and I. If you're completely spent at the end of the day, do you really want to lose a bidding war with your spouse to do some extra work? Doesn't one party risk building resentment merely because they're the poorer in the relationship?

And what does this look like to the kids after a while?

I agree completely with your point that communication is hard. I just think that this "solution" is merely beautiful fondant covering a possibly shaky foundation; money should never be a long-term or routine motivator in a loving relationship.
Variations on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Real-time_Transport_Pro... - mainly used as ZRTP, or DTLS+SRTP, or SRTP with manual key setup.
Related: port knocking utils use encrypted/authenticated UDP datagrams; there are secure chat / instant messenger libraries using UDP; VoIP uses secure UDP. a minimalist approach is http://www.the-control-freak.com/ClntSrvr/AES/AES.htm
Why is it not credible? That scene illustrates a point even more abstract than the one we are discussing.

If the result is the same (the prisoner dies), does it matter whether a legal authority performs the killing, or whether a mob does? I think it does.

You may not agree with the legal authority's process or laws, but at the very least it is written down.
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Sure, anarcho-capitalists are more prevalent in the bitcoin community than in society in general (and I think you correctly identify it as anarcho-capitalist, not libertarian; several commenters here do not seem to understand that there is a difference), but ultimately drug dealers seeking justice outside of the legal system is nothing new at all. The only unique thing that is going on here, as opposed to traditional drug dealing, is that the request is made publicly.

If you rip off drug dealers, you should expect them to call for heads. Using this as the basis for a political flamewar is just straight-up trolling.
In my experience that's true of proprietary vendors as well. They just usually call it "maintenance" instead of "support".

Of course. This isn't an open source vs proprietary thing, and every company has to include a certain amount of support in the software they sell.

That dichotomy is nowhere near as clear cut as you're making it seem.

Agreed - I didn't mean to make is seem an "either/or" thing.

Nonetheless, even a proprietary vendor has their costs go up as they acquire more customers

Yes. But if your business is selling software your support costs (hopefully!) don't increase as quickly as your revenue. Eg, I don't know how many people Microsoft has as support staff, but I'll bet that number didn't increase linearly as revenue grew.

In the support business you will almost alway have a fixed number of people per license - or at least per customer.
> We don't have a police state! We have one of the shittiest justice systems in the world that protects bad actors and gives our police unlimited power to abuse their office without fear of repurcussion [sic].

Struck a nerve?

You're absolutely right. We're not a police state--yet. But if left unchecked, the powers in control of the democratic process inevitably degrade into totalitarian rule. We're seeing a glimpse of that through the paranoia of the state (think extensive surveillance). A totalitarian United States will be made known when the Bill of Rights is nullified in its entirety, and we've already started on that path. Some might argue we've been on that path since the early 1900s, some since 2000, and some since more recently.

Honestly, I don't think we're at a point where reform is possible. An insufficient percentage of the population has yet been inconvenienced to enact reform. But by the time the majority is demanding it, then it will already be too late. And I fear that the average US citizen is too complacent and too ignorant to care. Neither one of those bode well for reform.

[takes off tinfoil hat]
> Our computers are powered by extremely complicated, intricate and numerous interacting subsystems

Which is one of the big mistakes of the last decades. I understand market forces and Worse is Better, but the result is still way worse than what we could have gotten if we lived in Ponyland.

Complexity is overrated. Current home desktop systems (OS + browser + office suite + mail + drawing app) are over 200 millions lines of code. Now guess how much it really takes to build an equivalent.

About 20,000 lines, including the self-implementing compiler collection.

http://vpri.org/html/work/ifnct.htm

http://www.vpri.org/pdf/tr2011004_steps11.pdf
I do not encrypt my entire disk, just the files that need to be.

Anything that involves clients, money, or any other sensitive data goes into truecrypt containers.
It's not "I'm paying so I'm buying." When paying taxes you are being extorted by definition. You are not paying taxes for anything.
Yes, you're absolutely right about the existence of Seq. Numbers in IPsec. However, it might not always be enabled, that is if you're using manual keying (and not IKE).

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipsec/current/msg05871....
There is a real brutal grammar nazi trend I've been seeing recently on various sites - apparently, someone gets a buzz of self entitled superiority off of correcting someones grammar mistakes.

Personally? I think English is insanely stupid, inefficient, and dumb. I speak it because I have to, not because I want to, because everyone else does it. If you think trying to get breakout success in a market with, say, a software product is, try thinking of a way to create an "optimal" language (ie, glyphs only trace to possible human vocalization, but it covers the entire range - English doesn't, for example. And your words are a huffman tree - the most popular ones are the shortest, though that can only ever be realized when the language is conceived since the common vernacular shifts over time).

Now try to figure out how to get that market penetration.
Play with fire and get burned. Sounds like the thugs have started tracking the thief, which would end in blood if caught. Classy stuff here folks, amazed drug dealers and crooks seem "normal" now.
You seem to be having some trouble with basic logic, which may be the cause of your current "I'm leaving this community because they think my tantrum isn't a valid opinion!". If you say "I'm responding to someone who said [thing x]" and you're not responding to someone who said that, it is really me who is to blame for trusting what you said? But yeah, as I said in the other post, I doubt I'll get anywhere disagreeing with someone who has a complete inability to admit theyre wrong. Hope you find some good buddies over at 4chan.
This looks really powerful, and I'm glad you offer student pricing.
All we're trying to do here is understand. We hear reports about bad cops doing bad things. I don't hear reports about good cops condemning those bad cops. I do hear reports about the rest of the cops quietly rallying around those bad cops, closing ranks, and hiding and protecting them. At absolute best, I hear about press conferences where the police commissioner will say the absolute minimum to cover his/her ass while providing no real belief that bad cops are actually accountable for anything.

If you're going to say that good cops do condemn bad cops, show us examples of this happening. I would love to see them, but I haven't heard of even one. If you're not willing to do the work to come up with these cases, then I'm just not going to believe you. Not saying you have an obligation to prove your case to anyone, but from the volume of comments from you in this post, it seems like you really do care about this issue.
English speakers often aren't.
The prosecutor(s) should be fired and disbarred.
I see nothing wrong about programmers who want to discuss or exchange experience etc. in their native language. I'm one of such guys... English is not my first language, either.

The thing is that the SO format is not suited for extended discussions. Its power lies and shows in brevity.

Like it or not - good working knowledge of English is a must if you consider yourself a professional. (In this field, of course; it's very specific).

If your English doesn't allow you to freely elaborate on the caveats of system architecture, working culture and whatnot, it's perfectly fine in my opinion and nothing to fret about.

But if you can't ask a brief technical question, or you stumble trying to answer one, that's a shortcoming that should be addressed. For your own good, nobody's else
the feature is maybe rarely used directly, but is crucial to make dynamic typing actually useful. Things like SQLAlchemy are possible thanks to the dynamic aspect of python. Writing a simple plugin system in python is trivial. Mocking is more or less trivial in those languages as well.
Yes, there's potential for a Tragedy of the Commons style problem to happen with kernel development, where each corporate developer suddenly decides to save money and not contribute, whilst letting everyone else pay. Eventually everyone would follow suit and nothing would get done.

Not exactly the same as the Tragedy of the Commons, but similar in the sense that it works best when everyone works together.

NB: It's also important to note that some kernel work is actually on drivers for specific products. eg. Intel's contributions are largely making sure that all their hardware will work in a Linux server/desktop, not necessarily the kind of general Linux ecosystem development that Canonical might do.
You just said "lynch mob" like it was a good thing. Try again.
The Day We Fought Back: By The Numbers
HKR News sidepanel UI with fulltext articles
http://hkrnews.com/#
>>How is he being an a__h___? He is exactly right.

Being a a__h___ and being right aren't mutually exclusive. :)

Sidenote: BTW, now that we're talking, if you have a coworker at Google who can get this comment[1] removed from my channel, I'd appreciate it. I reported it as hate-speech like a month ago or something.

1. https://www.youtube.com/user/SMTDDR/discussion

For posterity's sake - http://i.imgur.com/6kpYvcM.png
I sort of remember this was a talking point for red hat advocates way back in the early days, that it's better to have 50% of a tiny market than 5% of a huge one.
But treating all police like scumbags because of one bad encounter isn't rational. It's a response born out of fear, and while fear can be useful it isn't always rational.
This is a perfect example of the disconnect between "hackers" and the real world. I consider myself part of the HN community because I hope for a society shaped by its ideals, but the real world is so far removed that time spent here becomes more of a therapeutic escape than anything else.

You say that, but this ideal world is the world I live in, and have lived in all my life. You should consider moving to Europe (UK and Switzerland in my case).
Where exactly are you going with this? The author is doing something that they are passionate about and would seem to have an audience. Not only that it is more socially conscious than working for King or some other crap app factory.

So what's the beef and why are you so condescending about it?
Why is this the top comment? ... Oh, the author.
Both are descended from ML, but have found a lot more "RealWorld" usage than ML. If you know ML it makes it a lot easier to learn Haskell or OCaml.
I'd steer clear of discussing the ways things can go wrong. Instead, reassure customers that your platform is trusted and secure. i.e., used by X, backed by Y, and built upon Z.
I don't advocate a "tribes-and-warlords" system. I advocate a polycentric legal system which I believe would be better (for the vast majority of people, according to their own judgement of "better") than government systems like the US. I also do not believe that checks and balances work as I presume they were intended to.
Unicon Inc, http://www.unicon.net/, partly does this. They cater to higher education with software like uPortal, CAS, and uMobile. All of these software products are open source, but they make money off of a support model like this. Universities that pay them for support can vote on features that they want worked on. I do not work for them, but my employer does use them for our student portal.
Sorry to hear this happened to you.

Compare NY bike laws to Idaho, where "bike traffic is allowed to treat a Stop sign as a Yield -- and a red light as a stop sign".

http://www.sfbike.org/?idaho

http://legislature.idaho.gov/idstat/Title49/T49CH7SECT49-720...
(Note, I'm not dismissing libertarianism, I just want to understand this idea)

I understand the public services part of the idea, but the public services is not what I hear libertarians complain about.

What I hear complains about are the public restrictions, and their enforcements.

Suppose I live in Birmingham Alabama, and I do not want to be mugged. I would want to subscribe to the restaurant that offers me protection from muggers. But these muggers are smart, they subscribe to the restaurant that do not do anything to muggers. What happens now? Will my restaurant use force to protect me from them, infringing on the rights of the muggers? Or will they simply not be able to offer such a service? The result of that would be that a mugger simply is an outcast as no restaurant would openly service muggers?
I don't think we're arguing "good" vs "bad", but if you're have no interest in supporting military operations, then you have no interest in supporting military operations. I don't want my work being used by active duty military and their contractors, and that includes supplying them with food, weapons, water, more people, etc. Me saying "OK, I'm against this war but as long as you hold the gun I'm ethically fine with giving you all the housing, healthcare, food, logistics, weapons, and entertainment you need" is somewhat hypocritical.
It would have greatly reduced the likelihood of this guy getting assaulted and imprisoned, so I would consider it good advice.
Laws are not perfect. Sometimes you need a revolution (i.e., a mob).
The second definition is being used here:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/logic
An open letter to web platforms about gTLD adoption
Do you believe this can happen in a hotel?
Incredible things happen at India Chez-Moi Boutique Hotel! This was a wonderful evening with wonderful guests. We wish everybody could stay a little bit longer...
You have to remember how AWS started - Amazon selling their excess datacentre capacity in their offpeak downtime.

It really isn't possible to distinguish how much of AWS is a money maker for Amazon, because you can't separate the costs of running it from the costs of the Amazon business as a whole. For all we know, they could be selling the excess capacity at a massive loss, which is still justifiable for them because at least it recoups some of their everyday running costs.
This looks pretty cool! I like the story flow.

You might want to include some links that explain what the keys are, what PGP is, etc - because not everyone who lands on your site will know.
> Suppose the two partners have different ideas of what constitutes "cleaning the house".

This is essentially how my partner and I have divided up housework -- the person whose requirements for "done" are a superset of the other's does the chore. Fortunately we're fairly balanced in that regard.
I may have ended up editing out that last part after some reflection, but it had been already quoted. So alas what's done is done. Frankly I expected to get downvoted a bit, and the fact that it was so positively received is actually a bit disconcerting.

But while I agree that an attitude like that will lead to nothing constructive, at some point one's only recourse is spite.

Perhaps OP will receive monetary compensation after a drawn out lawsuit, only because there are specific things the arresting officer can be pinned with. But the worst that will happen to the officer is that she will lose her job, rather than be brought to trial for her crimes. And everybody else in the chain that dug in their heels to make him miserable rather than treat him as a human is utterly unaccountable.

And I see no avenues of recourse for fixing these systematic abuses. Reform will always be hampered by the fact that the sheer majority of people that police deal with are actually guilty, and that the sheer majority of people don't get arrested. That's two very strong priors that lead to the police being nearly universally accepted as "the good guys".

The only way that's going to change is by eroding the idea of police as de facto heroes, and promoting the idea that they are a malevolent culture that needs to be deprecated so new institutions can take their place. Otherwise, there's no incentive for them to ever change.
The government waits until they have a good case against you before arresting, drug dealers do not.
Thanks, I'll take a look and compare both of them.
You might like F# even more(well except that clr is not as good outside of windows, but still pretty decent)

As my coworker at the time put it. If Ocaml and python had a baby together it would be f#
> between the sort of victimless-crime-contraband that is on SR

Are you really that naive, or was that for the sake of your argument?

There's no way the drugs they sell on SR come all from some dude's dorm room, specially if it's not weed, and if they want it to be a profitable business.
I was thinking the same thing. Surely it is virtual money. If my wife paid me $100 to do something all that really matters is that I wouldn't have to hit the ATM for a bit.
Likewise the market is probably a very efficient resource allocation mechanism, but only for economic goods. There are many other types of "goods" out there that can't be quantified in dollars and cents. How much is, say, human dignity worth? Child labor? Sadly they both have prices, but I'd like to think we're better than treating people only in terms of their economic value today.

Worse yet, the market itself requires regulatory aspects to make it work. You don't simply roll into a digital equivalent of a barter economy and call things an improvement. There's a lot that good governments do to make this kind of thing happen, and just because it's transparent when it's working right doesn't mean the government doesn't warrant credit and it doesn't mean it was an easy task to make it work right (especially when there are so many examples of governments doing this poorly with negative follow-on effects).
You win at internet.
I've seen them essentially submit negative bids for things when the task is something desirable. If one wants to put the kids to bed, and the other doesn't, then basically no money is exchanged because both parties agree on who should do it.

It's just a much faster way to get to that conclusion than feeling each other out with words. :)
> Whether we like to admit it or not, software developers tend to build products for other developers, no matter how much they try the end result will end up appealing more to developers than the general population. This is illustrated by the weak show of Linux on the desktop, for years they've tried but not much has changed.

I'd like to think if we ever got a sizable enough install base on an open technology, the raw user base would sustain development through bug bounties and feature sponsoring. I still believe the most pure form of software development is someone paying you to fix their problems on a public codebase. They want it fixed, they pay to see it happen, and everyone benefits.

The problem, though, is that almost all consumer facing software doesn't see fundage through its user base - Photoshop, for example, is probably one of the most pirated pieces of software in history. It makes money through businesses buying business contracts for tens of thousands or millions of dollars to deploy it in the enterprise because they can't risk the gray space in buying one copy and sharing it around the office.

And businesses aren't going to be charitable to fund the development of their tools, even if they would be saving tons of money over paying out corporate contracts to the likes of Adobe.
No, but I am in incognito mode so noscript is off.
Given the latest news it is also very likely that the FBI with the help of some other government cyber-crime unit raided Silk Road 2. You will see it only when the thieves will try to sell or exchange the bitcoins.

The FBI won't do, and it will be in the news sooner and later.
There is actually a lot being done.
Sorry, just getting back around to this. I think my comment was way too general.

I had a project recently that I was researching that wanted subscription/recurring payments done in Indian Rupees. Found that because of banking regulations and I believe other issues, this was not doable.

Basically, from what I found there wouldn't be a way to run a subscriptions based website out of the US targeting India and Indian Rupee as the currency.
Ask HN: What is the easiest/quickest way to buy bit coin?
I am wondering what is the easiest way to buy bit coin using a debit/credit card?
This serves as good evidence for anyone who wonders if Portland is truly as idiosyncratic, iconoclastic, or just plain insane as it is depicted in the television series Portlandia.
You're high, the guy did NOTHING wrong. The police are to blame for this.
It is clearly not a perfect system, and it does raise all the questions you have mentioned, so I am not going to defend it particularly vigorously, but here is a random array of thoughts...

AFAICT what this system appears to allow for is an open and honest process of outright negotiation around how the household works.
I cannot see a downside for that, and have seen (and practiced on many occasions) much more negative approaches - arguing, resentment, grudging, self-martrydom and so on.

If you and your partner are both completely spent at the end of the day then you can negotiate the remaining work, neglect it, or have one person accept it.
All of those are reasonable options at different times, what is important is not the individual decision, but the overall pattern and the process of communication and negotiation you use to get there.

To the kids it probably looks like mum and dad are negotiating over who gets to put them to bed. Ive (sadly) had my kids listen through arguments around that at times, and many other things, and overall they appear to have survived and even done pretty well, although they are still young so who knows.

I think it is fantastically easy for someone outside a relationship to look at it and go "that relationship is broken, there is no way it can work", and be completely wrong (or right).

Relationships tend to be pretty unique things. Maybe theirs is in good shape, and maybe it is not, but in general I dont see a problem with any process that helps them negotiate openly and honestly about what they want.

It is also fantastically easy to speculate on how badly kids will be damaged by behavior you personally dont agree with.

If you scrape the surface of why they are together and what their motivations are, I doubt it is the money. The money merely provides a proxy for them to build discussions around.

....or maybe their relationship really is based on money, who knows....
But you're not in the living room. You asked for the data politely and the server sent the data to you. It even put your address on it to deliver it over the public internet.
So far as I know New Mexico and Arizona aren't part of "The South" either culturally or geographically. If it was that simple, I wouldn't have asked the question.