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I feel very sorry for the OP. Unfortunately, this is what happens when you're not a customer of the organization that protects you. Police officers will not be paid less if they mistreat the people they're supposed to protect. To get them to justice, as was mentioned in another comment, would cost tons of money and time and there's no guarantee of any kind of result. They know it.

The only places where police is actually humane and does mostly good are Scandinavian countries. My explanation of that phenomenon is that those countries are small (both in territory and number of citizens) and are, indeed, operate like small companies. Thus it's relatively easy to keep them accountable. Of course, many other small countries have very corrupt police, so this can only account for a part of the explanation.

My opinion is that where there is no market mechanism to effectively communicate customer satisfaction, you will see abuse. People see it again and again, yet they keep paying taxes to sponsor this shit, because they are being told there will be anarchy or the poor wouldn't have the money to hire a private police protection. I wonder if the poor would actually be better off without police "protection" at all. After all, they are mostly after people who conduct victimless crimes and are never there when a woman is getting raped or someone's being mugged. That's not protection, that's extortion.
Your common or garden libertarian will construct all manner of complex arguments as to how that isn't so, but there's really nothing in the philosophy which forbids it.
Is that the Nueremburg trials that von Braun was prosecuted at? Because the history of that trial showed me that justice is applied at the prosecution's convenience rather than in the cause of justice, even for the most reprehensible.
I don't imagine everyone that uses the site is libertarian, not all libertarians are anarcho-capitalists, nor are they all objectivists. Some people just oppose drug prohibition, or the banking system, or whatever. Nor was anything in there appealing to the government or any other "hypocritical" thing. This is the kind of comment I would expect to find on /r/politics, not hacker news.
Netflix has over 90,000 genres? No. No it doesn’t.
Running off with the money is probably the smart move. The quicker you can get off the radar with something like this, the better your chance of not ending up in jail. It is entirely possible they are made for life, and with no more incoming transactions, if they haven't left a trail, they can have their cake and eat it too.
It used to be VDI (Virtual Desktop Infrastructure), and I remember a lot of hype around 2008; I guess the *aaS is easier to understand because it sounds more familiar.

But you're right. I remember joking with a taxi driver about the abuse of buzzwords and we agreed he was in the "CaaS" business (car as a service).
They are using mixer service. I am unable to track them.
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There are currently thousands of different sets of laws and legal systems that you can choose to subscribe/submit to.

Potential victims of crimes can shop around for the legal system that they prefer, and those who intend to commit crimes can do the same. Generally this "shopping around" cannot be done retroactively; there are a few exceptions to this however.

The way that you pick the one that you wish to be associated with is to change your physical location. This has traditionally been an intuitive system (so intuitive that many people experience difficulty when trying to imagine alternatives) however it does not necessarily work well when there is no geographic relationship between victims and perpetrators.
>Her

The author is a man.

>Her wanting to stay on the scene to look after her friend and the cyclist was enough 'disrespect' to trigger the cop into violent mode.

Even if he was doing something wrong, assuming he wasn't violent, what happened to him was way out of proportion and should be illegal.

However, If I'm going to weigh the probabilities--4 cops spontaneously tackle a sober person for politely asking a question sounds a lot less likely than 4 cops tackle a belligerent drunk guy.
"Consider wearing a video camera at all times."

I'd rather carry a gun, thanks. Cameras only work against people who care about their reputations. Guns work against everything else.
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Arbitrarily injuring citizens isn't a power we bestowed on them, nor is arbitrarily murdering citizens.

What the hell are you saying?
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I think it's unnecessarily sensationalized language, but I agree with the general point, which is that cops are bad.
When a cop gives you instructions to leave, you leave. Not because the cop is right, but because this shit happens. And if you're naive enough to think that this shit won't happen to you, try not complying with a cop's instructions. Doesn't matter where in the US you happen to be. It's that simple.

Look, here's a simple rule. In every interaction with the police, ask if you can leave. If you can, count your lucky stars and leave. If you can't leave, determine if you can get out of the interaction with a ticket or a summons. If you can, work toward that outcome. Regardless, don't tell them your life story. Keep it brief and if they start asking about things that relate to you, exercise your constitutional right to shut up.

Cops are not your friends. Their job is to enforce order. Not to be your best bud.
What a ridiculous comparison of apples and oranges and peaches and pears and plums and bananas. Amazon isn't even remotely in the same business as Red Hat. Microsoft is in the business of providing enterprise operating systems, but that's far from it's only line of business. Using Oracle as an example of how "selling support for open source software" isn't a repeatable business model ignores how Oracle is copying Red Hat's model, and in fact some of Red Hat's source code.

Is it true that Red Hat doesn't have the money to invest in improving RHEL? I don't know (although I suspect it's not true), but the article spends zero time on anything that would demonstrate that.
There are other bags of food. There aren't other police forces. If the only food you had for the next, say, term of office was that bag of apples, you'd be tucking into it in short order rather than starve.

And to be a pedant, green/unripe apples are poisonous. They make you feel unwell; they just don't maim or kill you. Plenty of people would tuck into a bag of apples where some of them were still not yet ripe.
Did you even pause to ponder that OP could've been you ? What if everything he says is indeed true. And he has presented a bunch of facts that point in his favor. If you would've been arrested to simply calling 911 and trying to help - at 1am - how would you feel ?
Oh and about suing the Police - you ever tried it ? I'm assuming you have a $50K minimum retainer and a good lawyer ready ?
Not in the slightest, but the besetting flaw of libertarians is the belief that history has nothing to teach them save what they desire to learn, and that the existence of government, in one form or another, throughout recorded human history, implies nothing whatsoever regarding the viability of their particular flavor of utopianism.
>"I painstakingly retrieved all possible documentation, including: the police report, transcript of radio chatter, audio of my 911 call, security footage from Radius restaurant"

So post it! The only thing he linked to is the audio of the 911 call. Why not post the other evidence. I have a feeling there is more to the story. While I am sure there are many cops on "power trips" most cops I have meet (including the ones that arrested me) have been pretty decent people.
You are making the assumption that the people involved actually want to work together to make the world a better place, rather than take what they can get from a situation.

When someone spends their life dissembling, having someone call them on it to their face on national television is a tiny step in the right direction.
Based on informal asking, most teachers who are supposed to be teaching fractions cannot figure out whether 2/3 is bigger than 3/5 or vice versa.

Given that fact, I am not optimistic about what you hope.
Interesting that even after reading all or most of the account you still refer to the victim as "she". For awhile, I also thought the victim as a "she" and I'm wondering if that clouded the account at all or there was any purpose to including the top picture.
"I understand that on some level putting Peretz in jail was a reasonable response to him not leaving the scene, ..."

It sounds completely unreasonable to me, by the way. Of course he doesn't want to leave, he just found someone bleeding in the street, it's natural to care about what happens to them. Why should he leave?

And why would he go to jail after not obeying immediately? Isn't there something else that you guys get in a case like that -- a citation or what have you?

I was told to leave a scene not so long ago, when they frisked a group of immigrant kids (and in the end took away one of them who apparently had some drugs on him; so actual police work as opposed to a traffic accident). We didn't. We stood back a meter and observed. After that, they didn't take down my name, I certainly wasn't manhandled. That seemed reasonable to me.

The hostility -- the sentiment, not the actions following from it -- displayed by the officers would be understandable (if pathetically unprofessional) if he had been drunk and belligerent. But that's not what he says happened. And I'm inclined to believe him, since he wasn't charged with anything.

Edit: Added that anectode, sorry for stealth editing after upvotes, hope nobody minds.
Flask (http://flask.pocoo.org/) plus SQLAlchemy (http://www.sqlalchemy.org/) is a really good combination. I find that former PHP users often like Python's syntax.
* this was supposedly in the Bitcoin protocol itself*

Cue a line of BTC-promoting ostriches claiming that the protocol is fan-fucking-tastic and in no need of improvement.
Because drunks don't deserve equal protection under (and from) the law, especially when phoning in an accident, amirite?

C'mon, dude.

Note to self: don't pitch to cops at scene of accident.
Lots of deflection in this thread. Here's another idea:

"I'd be more than happy to give you a discount. I feel our pricing is fair, so I don't do this frequently. If we can find a price you're comfortable with, will you purchase the tool?"

Discounted pricing is normally the last step. So, if we're talking discounts, you're about to buy, and it's not my call to steer you away from that. But, let's be clear: if we're talking discounts, you're about to buy, and that should be the tone of the conversation.
Of course police departments do this. Oppressive groups use public disdain of the oppressive groups to justify intensifying their oppression. That doesn't mean the disdain isn't justified.
All I can say is that I have numerous counterexamples of awesome engineering managers. These are people who understand software and hardware, understand how to solve problems, and understand the motivations, desires, needs, and lifestyles of the people on their team.

Not sure how to reconcile with the article, except to say "my experience differs drastically".
"There are better things to waste your time on. Like Facebook. Or Twitter. Or porn."

The last bit seems off putting to me. I thought the site looked very professional and the concept seemed like it could facilitate more meaningful connections, but seeing that puts all those first impressions in peril to me.
Every good cop who is managing to effectively stop a bad cop, means yet another bad cop.

That is, we're hearing about bad cops who aren't being stopped by good ones. A lot. "Well, the good ones are out there!"; they're either ineffective, or effective, in which case the number of bad cops is even higher than we hear about. Neither of those is particularly placating.
Being self-proclamably rational is perhaps the worst attribute to reveal when dealing with this type of situation.
Condemnation that you aren't aware of != private condemnation. It seems pretty damn arrogant to imply that something doesn't exist because you aren't aware of it.
the only good cop is a dead cop.

This sentiment is a wish for things to get worse for everyone, in every way. It's lazy, cowardly, and beneath HN.
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> The nice guys don't last out there

Because San Francisco is a war zone? Give me a break.
There's a huge assumption here -- that the best engineering managers used to be engineers, namely these "unicorns" who went from "wanting to be great engineer" to "wanting to be great engineering manager".

That's not the only path.
Canonical is not profitable.
Remember when the American Airlines employee got fired for giving feedback to an unsolicited re-design? Also, here are some other examples of airline website re-designs [2].

I can't find it now, but the AA designer's response discussed the challenges of re-designing these sites, would be appropriate to relate that here.

[1] http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091106/0337536829.shtml

[2] https://www.uie.com/brainsparks/2010/08/02/please-let-me-red...
I've started off in worse situations than the OP.

Apologize but not profusely. Then, shut up. Acknowledge the officer's authority, show some respect, and do as your told. Do it whether they deserve it or not. It's about making it home safely, not about being right.

If you want to be an activist or some kind of martyr for all those abused by cops then do so. Afterwards file a lawsuit for unlawful detainment, excessive force or whatever.

I prefer to stay out of it.
Linux programs run on plan9 through the syscall emulator.

I used plan9 as my primary desktop for about 10 years. As I would always respond, a Formula 1 car doesn't have an ashtray.
I think you're assuming his appeals to morality is the same as asking for government intervention. In fact, I read this just the opposite, and I would bet this is exactly NOT what he is asking for.
What attribute of Reddit are you talking about? Is it that people here accuse other people of acting like members from some other website, rather than actually confronting their arguments?
I encrypt a lot of my stuff via Turtl (https://turtl.it). Disclaimer: I built it.
Most of these people use libertarianism as a guise.
They're drug dealers and consumers.
That's it.
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I think that they figured that out way back in 2001!
Not sure if you're joking. It's easy to google, e.g. http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ar_libertari...

> What was Ayn Rand’s view of the libertarian movement?

> Ayn Rand was opposed to the libertarian movement of her time.

Details follow.
As a white person thrown into psychiatric solitary a couple times, I'd say that he got pretty cushy treatment compared to what black folks get. No trial, out in 12 hours? Try that if you're black.

Sounds crazy, but considering how many questions he was asking the officers after they'd cuffed him he got off quite easy. I wonder if my friends that went to UCSF around the same time as him knew him. I know a lot of folks like him, but they don't know much standard "know your rights" type stuff that teaches you to do nothing, say nothing once you are cuffed.

Unless you are making them laugh, you're probably on their bad side.
> Getting a check for $200 ... would be an insult

This amount wouldn't meet what I said, as they'd still clearly be externalizing the collateral damage from their approach (just like the jury theatre, as you point out).

> If he hadn't made a ruckus they wouldn't have put him there

Which stemmed from them denying him access to medical care, outside communication, and due process. I covered this under "pettily punish those who don't just submit and take it".
Title made me think of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9MgWFU3JhM
> decent browser

This, along with hardware support, is why I don't run Plan 9 as my only OS. Porting a modern browser to Plan 9 would be incredibly painful, and I believe the codebase of Chromium or Firefox is larger than Plan 9 itself these days!

> vim

Someone actually ported vim, and it's pretty easy to install from contrib.

> symlinks

These are a deliberate omission; the ability to rearrange the filesystem with bind doesn't correspond exactly to symlinks since it's done as a property of the current namespace rather than stored in the filesystem, but with the idioms that are built around bind, I've never missed symlinks at all.

Sorry for going into defensive-weenie mode and attacking your positive post!
Your analogy adds nothing but noise to the conversation.

The lawyer for the accused never recants either the confession, or that his client said what he is reported to have said. In typical defense lawyer posturing, instead he tries to draw doubt about the metadata around it. And for good reason given that the accused has repeatedly admitted, to the police, prosecutors, and even the media, having written exactly what was reported, but now we're to pretend that maybe it was a different person, or that Facebook messages were doctored?

Note that the prosecutor almost certainly has the messages from Facebook, and the fact that the police went on the early variant is utterly irrelevant.

What interest does the law have in punishing people who aren't actually issuing threats?

Since you like anecdotes, imagine that someone walks around pretending to punch random bystanders, but he pulls up at the last second. Hilarious, right? Now they have no intention of actually hitting, and can even point at a history of being the sort of person that pretends to hit people.

Is it assault?

Yes, of course it is. The recipients of the threat reasonably believed in its validity, so what the perpetrator thought is irrelevant. This is the same reason why bomb threats, threats against persons, etc, are prosecuted, despite this contrived notion throughout this thread that they need to prove that one has the means and intention of carrying it out.

Freedom of speech is one freedom. But as with most freedoms that need to be balanced between people, your freedoms end where my nose begins. Your freedoms to express violent threats ends where there are people who might reasonably assume them to be legitimate, for instance. This is the case in the US and almost all Western countries, so it's odd seeing so many seemingly thinking this is protected speech. It isn't.
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Do you have your font settings changed? My mm/dd/yyyy fit's within the frame.
Which underscores the essential understanding that unlike Android, Windows, OSX, Linux, the web and others, iOS is not a platform at all in a strict sense of the word. It is a proprietary technology partnership with Apple with the one and only goal of making money for Apple. If your interests aren't first and foremost to make money for Apple, then secondly to make it for yourself, go somewhere else.
I am afraid that stackoverflow has become a very hostile environment for the sake of some delusive over optimization as a code bank for every single question out there. The thing about questions is that although there are similarities, they often are not placed in the same context, stackoverflow mods zealously flag even relevant questions like "what libraries should I use for X" because it's not a really answerable question but they are forgetting that this optimization by downvoting (negative user experience) and censuring the question asker leaves a very bad taste in new comers experience.

Even I, as an old timer on stackoverflow get harassed (the usual passive aggressive and cold hearted engineer style) with time to time by people who otherwise do not have any reason to be commenting on the question itself such as "if OP doesn't know this, it's a miracle that he does X" or other ad hominem remarks.

Stackoverflow really has become a hostile place to ask questions provided they don't censure you for variety of subjective rules.

These days I find Ask HN to be far better user experience.
Libertarianism has a lot of morality, it's just a different morality. That morality is to maximize independence of each individual. Obviously that's not a promotion of murder, nor a neutrality against murder (as an example of one moral), it's absolutely against the imposition of one will "unfairly" on another, through violence. It would characterize needlessly violent drug busts by swat teams as such imposition of will through violence.

Clearly, you're an ultra-liberal. That's fine, but you don't have to be illogical, come on.
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Thank you for this comment. Very true. Depression should be though of as a serious, dangerous and dreadful condition that has claimed so many lives. That being said I don't dare to judge if the author of the article is depressed or not.
>>Before granting a charter, the OCC or state must be able to determine that the applicant bank has a reasonable chance for success
> There aren't other police forces.

That's the problem, combined with the fact that police forces are funded by force rather than by providing a service that people are willing to pay for.
Serious question: Would it be safe to say that not all self-professed libertarians agree on the definition of libertarianism? I've suspected this is the case.
Typical libertarian response: why bother refuting anything zedshaw said when you can just attack him personally?
Even with "gold level" insurance a ride in an ambulance is $$$$. If your injury is not life threatening taking alternate transport to the Emergency Room is perfectly acceptable.
>"White America welcome to black America."

Pretty much.

I was honestly dumbstruck by the naiveté expressed as soon as the action starts.

"She turned to me and abruptly said that I was not needed as a witness and should leave immediately. I told her we were headed home, just across the way, when my friend and I encountered the accident; and that I’d recently broken my elbow in a similar bike accident here and deeply cared about the outcome."

It's an odd mixture of feelings to read about someone who lives in the same country I do who was able to grow into adulthood without having to learn the basic rules some of us had to learn by 4th grade.
At IMVU, we matrix "technical leadership" separate from "coaching and HR" separate from "product definition and projects."
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I'm glad it wasn't just me who felt like that. I'm white, middle class, and grew up in Britain as a native. But as a member of multiple minority groups, I've seen hints of this world, and it is not pretty :(

The worst part of all this? First thing I did was check the author's gender and skin colour. And then I read the article. I normally work hard to be free of the prejudice of this society we are forced to live in, and yet I realised I took this article more seriously because it was by a white male :(

That is why it is vital to understand privilege, and that we live in a society that is constantly pushing its values that we cannot help but to make such mistakes. That it doesn't matter how good your intentions are, how much of a meritocracy you think your community has, but if it isn't free from the constant pressure of our base society (ie, realistically impossible), you'll end reading something like this and trying to excuse away those thoughts I just admitted.