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> What I DO find offensive is you marginalizing gender issues by comparing them to your experience vacationing in Asia.

This comment pisses me off. Living in a foreign country and being marginalized is completely different from being a woman in the tech field in a first world western democracy. I get reminded of the fact that I'm different literally every time I leave my apartment and deal with another human being, whereas for you it happens when you open HN and see a joke about bros or something to that effect. I have literally been denied housing multiple times on the account of not being a local and that fact wasn't even hidden from me. Do I care? Not really, I just went elsewhere and sorted it out. As I said, you can't change people but you can choose who you deal with and how you perceive the world.

>We are, to use your analogy, white people living in Asia except there is nowhere else to live.

You are literally complaining about something that is a first world problem and completely blowing it out of proportion. People like you give female and minority tech workers a bad name. What employer wants to hire someone who is going to cause a shitstorm and potentially threaten with lawsuits every time someone cracks a well meaning joke. I for one would now be very wary of hiring you for the fear of you not tolerating other people at the office, or even worse, suing me and my company. Good job sister. You sound like tons of fun to be around.
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My favorite part is Bill Atkinson's MacPaint demo at 42 minutes. I laughed seeing him mention how everyone thinks the paint bucket tool looks like a graduation cap - I always thought the same thing using it as a kid and never saw it as a paint bucket.
Man, the amount of disdain people have for protesters in the comments to this story is really shocking. I do not exactly understand where it's coming from. Yanukovych is a corrupt petty thief and rapist, turned politician, who has very close ties with Russia, and is stealing from the Ukrainian people through corruption. He rigged an election in 2004 and only massive riots prevented him from coming into power then by forcing a new vote. In any civilized country any of these individual issues would have prevented him from being eligible to be president.

The basic political problem in Ukraine is that Russia still has lots of influence over it, and Russia sees it as its territory separated temporarily after the breakup of the USSR. Ukraine is dependent on Russia for things like natural gas, and thus cannot simply break away from the abusive relationship. Russia naturally has an interest in having a political puppet in power in Ukraine. Who better to do this than a convicted felon like Yanukovych? This is how the riots started this time around: to protest the sudden pro-Russian turn of the Yanukovych administration.

Ukraine has for some time now faced the tough choice: continue its abusive but familiar relationship with Russia or turn to Europe and risk everything to try to build a new relationship with the EU? IMO, until Ukraine grows a spine and does what's best for its people long term, it will continue getting into situations like this. Yanukovych, while completely corrupt, is not the ultimate evil. He is a lackey that will be replaced if he is ousted. The real issue here is Russia.
I wonder if Vic Gundotra was involved. Reminds me of this BTW: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3134609
Yes, Yanukovych won the next elections when there was less western interference...
Which is legitimate imo. Why should they spend resources to support people not buying their hardware ? They don't make money from OSX like MS does with Windows.
longer original article, in the comments http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/blog/techflash/2010/03/lo...
There are certainly great pictures, but depth and nuance? You can't see people's ideology and in their faces. Pretty girls can still be crazy nationalists and fascists. Does age and gender really prove anything as the author seems to suggest?

He also says that the crowd is well organized. Who organizes them if they are so diverse? Who are the people who deny others access to some areas as he reports? There are very few answers in his report.
It's interesting that you say "imagine growing up in a world where everything you say is recorded" because a key part of growing up for me was being taught that for a large part of my life, that could be the reality.

It's very interesting to try to live your life as if you were always being recorded. It forces you to be more truthful in the things you casually say, while simultaneously tempering your views so you can stay truthful when expressing your opinion. However, I've found it to be a largely worthwhile goal, since it forces a high degree of consistency between ones internal and external state, a feeling that is quite satisfying.
> They've already lost Moldavia recently, and didn't they lose Georgia, too?

The Rose Revolution gang were ousted in the most recent elections in Georgia...
So all the advantages the "steamboxes" have over consoles are actually disadvantages.

> The logic of buying a ‘games machine’ where the games selection will always be more limited than on a standard PC or Mac makes little sense.

Yet people buy consoles. And "standard PC"? Who decided that giving microsoft your money is a "standard"?
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I do not want to turn this into a gun control debate. You are right, it is best to avoid actual armed conflict.

However, having roughly 6.6 guns per 100 people means that guns are rare enough not to be used all the time. In general, the slavic nations do not have a culture of guns and gun violence among civilians (thank goodness), and that's what we are seeing here. Guns being rare means that they are not the first thing you reach for in a riot.

By the way, Ukraine has mandatory draft, so most men (women are ineligible for draft) do know how to handle weapons.
My first thought were that this guy is a whiney little %@#&&.
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Wrong. Yes, there is a pipeline problem; however, women also leave STEM fields at more than twice the rate men do.[0] And when we do, the reasons we cite include the fact that it's a boys' club, as well as outright harassment.

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It's clear Steve meant "freedom" in the sense of freedom of choice. If the industry were dominated by a single vendor, you have no freedom - you have to buy what that vendor is selling.

Steve got the story right, but the characters and timeline wrong. It wasn't IBM in the 80s, but Microsoft in the late 90s that threatened to dominate personal computing.

I remember these as rather dark times. Microsoft engaged in shady practices like per-processor licensing, which required OEMs to pay Microsoft for every machine sold, even if it didn't have Windows installed. Upstarts like Be couldn't get any traction, even with their technically superior OS. It all culminated in the US vs. Microsoft antitrust trial (which ended up going nowhere).

During this period, Apple was very much on the ropes ("beleaguered", they said), but Mac OS nevertheless remained a viable option for the average consumer - the only real alternative to Windows. In this way, Apple provided users with a mote of freedom.
Is it just me or is there an inordinate amount of failed startup post mortems in the last two months? Is this a sign that the VC market is pulling back and the startup bubble is at least deflating a bit?

Another thing, I appreciate the author's honesty but will admitting that he quit on the company/investors hurt his chances of getting any sort of consideration in the future and a founder of another startup?
This attitude is a clear echo of what a Pentacostal girl said to me when I was 15, hoping/expecting I would take up her religion later on when I originally thought it was stupid.
While I wouldn't suggest that the App Store is free, a lot of people take issue with it while ignoring many other similar stores.

For example, the online shop on the PS3 or any game console is a similar environment, even Steam on the PC is similar. These types of curated software services for specific devices have been around for a long time. No one seemed to take issue with them until the App Store. Why is that?
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Well, OTOH the Mac Pro does have use replacable CPU, HD and memory for what is worth. It got a 8/10 user-servisability score at iFixit, which is very good for a device of this size and design.

And it can also use thunderbolt based GPUs. But if your work justifies a $3K dual-GPU machine, would you really go about replacing graphics cards 2-3 years down the road, instead of just buying the latest model? It would have new-everything, and it would be a tax deductible busines expense after all.
> It was a pretty widely held belief at the time of the launch of intel macs that the choice to use an, at the time kind of moribund, EFI BIOS was a deliberate attempt to make hackintoshes difficult

Widely held by whom? The absolute simplest thing for Apple to have done at the time would've been to have kept using OpenFirmware, for maximum compatibility with existing PowerMacs (OpenFirmware boot code is written in platform-independent Forth).

This would've made building hackintoshes much harder than EFI, since EFI motherboards were quasi available at the time and clearly going to be growing in the future, whereas OpenFirmware x86 motherboards were speciality hardware that only Apple and Sun would have been producing.

The decision to use EFI is most easily understood as a compromise between retaining some of the abilities of OpenFirmware, avoidance of 30-years of unnecessary BIOS cruft, and a desire to enable people to run Windows, which EFI BIOS compatibility could enable but OpenFirmware could not.

Seriously, it's 2004-2005. You have the opportunity to define an x86-based platform from scratch. You'd like Windows compatibility as a business selling point, but you're sane so you don't want to chain yourself to a kludge like the PC BIOS in your own code base if you don't have to, because backwards compatibility isn't a concern.

EFI is the only obvious choice.
I doubt the CIA could have plot the political decision of Ukraine to turn their back on Europe. This is the cause of this, as far as I know. Ukrainians hoped to be able to work in Europe like their neighbour countries and this has been denied to them. Obviously that political decision was strongly "influenced" by Russia. This is why so many people are taking part in these contests. Every single Ukrainian is concerned by this political choice and unhappy of it.
I don't think CIA could make such mass popular protest sprout and sustain in front of strong political resistance.

People just want to get away of misery. If Russia want to keep this country in its "federation" there is a very clear and "simple" thing to do. Keeping this country from joining europe by force is just delaying the final issue as it happened with Hungary and all these other countries. This Federation hold together by force will fall appart anyway soon or later unless Russia manages to offer equivalent job opportunities and salaries as Ukraininag could get in Europe.
>Granted Apples custom design still offers some space savings but also zero upgradability.

Zero upgradability? The Mac Pro is quite upgradable, with the exception of the GPU. It got a 8/10 from iFixit in this area.
Extending your argument about 2 viewpoints: lets go listen to what astrologers have to say about criticism from astronomers...
Best quote: "war is war, but everyone needs to updates pics in social networks"
It's just referring to the futility of the eye protection (mentioned just before) against all that water.
In addition to the quotes above, please note Kiev is a huge city (3M+ people), and the hostilities are concentrated in relatively small area. Indeed, the harm done to the area seems to be substantial, but not irreparable (some cleaning up, repaving and repainting would probably cost a lot, but nothing seems to be irreversibly destroyed). So there's no large scale destruction of the city by its citizens.
> Nobody's asking you to give up your identity. But the thing is - is being able to use the word "bro" such a core part of your identity that avoiding it means giving up your identity? Could you just avoid it as a favor to the people out there who feel bad when they hear it?

I would avoid it if it was a slur that belittles other people. So no. If you choose to be offended by a word that young men in North America men use to fraternize, it's your problem. I'm not even American and I really couldn't care less when my American coworkers call me "bro".

Let's say I find dogs offensive and dog owners alienating. Is it reasonable for me to ask the society to be more mindful of my feelings and make people stop walking dogs while I'm out? No, and I think we can agree that a person making such a request would likely be borderline mentally ill, or at the very least, unadjusted to living in the society. So where do we draw a line between mental illness and a simply asking not to be excluded? If everyone's opinion is equally respected, who is the authority that decides what's reasonable and what's not? Let me guess, you? Because it furthers your purpose right?

In fact, I've just remembered we have a git branch at work called "bro". Makes me realize the dire implications of a simple joke like that - we could potentially get sued by an intolerant employee. No wonder companies have started looking for culture fits these days, it's become very risky and expensive to hire people who are different because there is a good chance they will sue over frivolous reasons. Not saying I am like that, but can you see where I am going with this and how this mindset is actually damaging to minorities? Can you see how many employers would just choose to not hire a minority person simply because they are afraid of the implications? This way of thinking does MORE DAMAGE than good. Does what I wrote make sense?
I've been following Hy for a while and it's sad that macros are still part of on-going discussions with no definite plan. It's one of the reason I prefer Scheme-inspired Lisps to Common Lisp. Hy just looks Lispy but it's no where near Lisp without all the macro system.
>Finally when staying on 10.6.7 really started to give problems, I decided to try Ubuntu again. I was pleasantly surprised that Ubuntu now actually is very usable as a workstation for development. It's got all window manager features 10.6.7 had, good terminal emulators, editors, and the important browsers, what more do you need? (don't say photoshop :@)

Photoshop, Office, proper multimedia capabilities (DAWs, NLEs), full support for all my laptops features, and never ever having to tinker to get some basic device working.
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One thing I've always loved about math and science and code is how gender neutral it is. Historically, sure, there's been some bias, but it's mostly a thing of the past. Equality of opportunity (which we are now approaching, if we haven't achieved already, at least for the female gender) is not necessarily going to give us an equal 50/50 representation of the sexes in a specific field. Boys and girls tend to utilize their free time very differently.

Engineering has always been about results, so being capable is really the most important thing. I can see how that would be offensive to feminists, who like to push affirmative action and so on, but at a very basic level science and the fields deriving from it do not care about the social attributes of the person performing them.

This might be why the sjws have such a hard time understanding why tech people are so allergic to them--the sjws derive value exclusively from superficial attributes, like race and sex. However, bad code is bad code whether it's an evil cis white male who wrote it, or a poor queer poc. Logic is fundamentally egalitarian. SJWs are very anti-egalitarian.

Feminists are all for women in tech, so long as they don't have to be the woman in tech. Unless, as you've noted, "being a woman in tech" means tweeting to friends all day long. Sometimes I feel like the people who complain about stereotypes the most are the reasons those stereotypes even exist.
It actually is the winning position when the opposition still has less support and PoR is at it's weakest.

The protests will only intensify PoR support in the south and east of the country.
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This is slightly interesting but I wonder what is the relevance to Hacker News?
Let me just say that being drafted in soviet-model army and knowing one's way around civilian firearms is not the same thing. But I'm sure even with 6 guns per 100 that means that there could be at least dozens of guns present in the scene. Yet so far we didn't hear any of them firing, which I don't attribute just to luck. But you're right, most of the protestors probably don't own a firearm, and those who may own it probably won't take it there.
that plus bravery and the (correct?) hope that the police and military will basically be unwilling to pull triggers

a handful of tanks and people willing to fire on their fellow citizens would probably rout the protests
Those commenters have very justified disdain.

They want Ukraine to join European union. and the fate of Ukraine will be pretty grim in that case. My (not only mine's, actually) conclusion is based on experience of former Baltic USSR republics and former states from the Socialist block, including Bulgaria, Slovakia, etc.

Never mind that burning car tires means producing benzopirenes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzo%28a%29pyrene Those compounds are 1000 times more harmful than lead.

They are making Kiev to be very bad for living quite fast.

So, in short, protesters are stupid judging from several points of view.
Agreed. Some of these comments are depressing. They're probably the same kind of people who sit at their TV/computer with a pen and notepad to jot down anything they find "offensive" and complain.
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This. So much this. The article is not trying to drum dramatics or hype or anything that western media is brainwashed to do with everything. It's just simple, honest and very brutal.
> since oversensitive feminists make life much harder for women in tech to be taken seriously.

Yep. In all political parties too, the oversensitive types discredit the other ones. Please fight for moderation from the extremists as much as you want us to care about your presence.
>Because, hate to break it to you, but you were born a feminist. Everyone is.
>You are born a feminist; if you don't die a feminist, you lost a bit of your humanity during your life.

If everyone is born feminist, where did this allegedly sexist society come from in the first place?

You are neglecting to account for the entire field of biology and genetics, as well as making feminism sound like some sort of creepy religious cult (although it's certainly starting to resemble that, recently). People aren't really a blank slate at birth. Nature and nurture are fundamentally intertwined.

Additionally, what a "feminist" is seems to vary widely, from "thinks people should be equal" to "we should exterminate men." Your claim seems ludicrous in light of the fact that even feminists do not seem to know what exactly a feminist is.
There's no blurry text problem -- Mac has a "respect the font design" look, Windows has a "crude text" problem, and Linux is somewhere in between.

That said, a retina display totally changes everything. No "blurry" and no-crude. Just as reading a finely printed book. You wont want to go back to a low DPI monitor after a week of using a retina.

As for using Ubuntu for development inside OS X, that's actually the best of both worlds. You have a stable desktop system, and you can have arbitrary development environments for every job (assuming you use a VM), that are just like the target environment (assuming you deploy on Linux).

I'd also suggest trying Vagrant, if you don't use it already.
Aside from agreeing that the idea for the service is great, I think there's an important distinction to make about why 'bro' has gotten people riled up. The issue, in my mind, is not that it has a gender bias, after all there are examples of feminine terms in computing that nobody seems to mind (e.g. programming languages like Ada, Julia, Miranda, etc...). We should feel fine about using masculine terms too.

The issue instead is with the negative connotation that has built up around the word 'bro'. The solution I'd like to add to the pile is to change the name from 'bro' to 'boy', keeps the joke intact, just as quick to type, and no negative connotations. What do you think of that name?
In my experience, it's always about offending people. But only theoretically, of course.

See, this is pretty much exactly what I'm talking about. I share my perception of this issue and that of multiple people I know personally to explain that "offended" isn't the way any of us view the issue, and to clarify how we actually do view it as best I can. And then you, in your first sentence, reject what I've said and instead claim it really is about being offended after all. Are you suggesting that I'm deliberately lying, or that I'm deluded, or what? You don't say. And then even though I've made note of specific personal connections that have led me to my understanding of the issue, you suggest that my supposed fear of offending people is purely theoretical.

You aren't listening. Or if you are, it sure doesn't feel like it. And that's at the root of this entire issue.

It does say a lot about you and your friends that they assume that anyone who disagrees with them isn't coming from a legitimate experience of their own.

I would love to see any quote by me that supports this claim. I have never intended to suggest that "not observing gender bias" is not an authentic description of many peoples' experience in the tech community, even for some women. My assertion is just that it is not everybody's experience, and that the people who do feel strongly affected by gender bias deserve to be heard and respected.

Why is it only you and your friends that are Designated Spokepersons for All Women?

Again, I can't think of any time that I have claimed such a role, but I'd welcome evidence to the contrary. Now, "Volunteer Advocate for a Community that Feels Welcoming to More Women", that I'll own up to.
Oh man. I cannot see how what you are saying makes sense.

First, joining the EU and trading with the EU are different things. We are talking about a very low level of commitment here for what originally started these riots. Please tell us how reducing corruption and creating a trade agreement with the EU a bad thing for Ukraine?

Second, what does burning tires have to do with anything about this political situation? What would you do if you living in Kiev right now? Reading more of these comments I am starting to think that most people who express this disdain are really just trolling for Russia.
You haven't noticed the horrible abuse of the word "hacking" lately? I'm surprised.

Once something's mainstream, everyone tries to jump on it if they think it's considered cool. It's not really a women specific phenomenon.