skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Well, when you spin it like that... I'm no Steve Jobs apologist, but I think it's important to get the facts straight. NeXT wanted to distribute the frontend as .o files which the user would link with the backend, true. Now, the way you present it makes it seems as though NeXT was hell bent on having a proprietary frontend, but were strongarmed by the GPL to release under the GPL. What actually happened is that Jobs asked RMS if he thought it would be OK to distribute the frontend as .o files, to which Stallman said that it probably would be OK (from a legal standpoint), but then consulted a lawyer who told him that the judge would probably think this is not OK. So RMS then tells Jobs that FSF believes this is not allowed by the GPL. Then NeXT produces GPLed frontend. Notice how smooth all of this went. No attempts of subversion by NeXT or disputing FSF's opinion, they asked, were given a legally worthless negative opinion which they accepted and produced a free frontend. So yes, technically it happened because of the GPL (but only on an assumption that the judge would accept FSF's lawyer reasoning) but based on what actually happened there is no evidence of Jobs wanting to "have his way". If Jobs "hated" "our freedom" and the GPL was the only thing that stood between us and slavery as RMS likes to think, this would unlikely go without any friction whatsoever.

Sources for what happened: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/pragmatic.html http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/2008/11/22/why-gcc-has-a-free-ob...

EDIT: Another source, the first paragraph is telling: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/gnu.misc.discuss/_pB...
I always loved the man pages in OpenBSD because they do provide useful examples for most commands. Whether it's the OS for you... ymmv, I wouldn't choose an OS on this one feature, but I wish more man pages had built in examples.
OK: Epiphany Web browser (webkit based) under Gnome 2.30 on gNewSense is coping with 12 tabs or so and using 170Mb. Tabs include The Verge and other heavy sites. I have javascript enabled. Scrolling is a bit slow on this old laptop. On a 1024 wide screen you get 9 tabs then arrows (i.e. Epiphany does not wrap the tabs bar).

http://thesimplecomputer.info/1-month-with-the-midori-web-br...

Midori has had a facelift (Gnome 3 version). Might be worth a try. Can't install this myself on this laptop without changing the OS.
The whole idea of a Tone Argument seems ridiculous "you're denying my claims by pointing out that I am being an asshole" seems inaccurate on its face.

Pointing out the someone is being an asshole is its own thing. Not to mention that being an asshole actually DOES potentially detract from their point to their own detriment and would be better avoided in most cases.

The point may or may not be valid on its own, but presenting it terribly is the fault of the presenter, not the recipient, and having that pointed out isn't somehow changing the argument. That's a bit like saying the phrase "Pardon me? You were mumbling and I couldn't understand." is changing the argument.
So you glazed over the point in the original post:

the problem is not with what you are thinking when you read the word "bro", but with what other people, especially newcomers, are thinking.
I compile my C source code with it, or other people's. I don't sell the programs that I write, or get paid for writing them - for those reasons I don't consider myself to be a software developer, most of my peers think I am wasting my time.
Check that your insurance covers heroic deaths.

I think that it’s important to try to help other people, but your safety is also important. For example it’s common that to rescue one person is drowning, more than one person attempts a rescue and all of then get drowned. You must learn how to proceed in those cases to be helpfull.

A few years ago I did a first aid mini-course. It was mostly about CPR and how to act in case of fire and chemical splits. The guide emphasized that the security of the rescuers is important. For example that before entering a door, you must check that the door will not close and trap you inside the dangerous place. Or make sure that the place you enter don’t have toxic fumes.

I can’t find a direct cite of this. But if you go to http://www.redcross.org/prepare/disaster/chemical-emergency , press the “respond during” tab you get this recommendation (near the middle of the page):

> If you find someone who appears to have been injured from chemical exposure, make sure you are not in danger before administering First Aid.
>> "Is the Big Bang Theory equally terrible?"

I don't know about equally, but it is terrible. Watch a clip with the laugh track off (you can find them on YouTube) and you will realise how unfunny it is.
Thanks for the clarification. Given their value, that would indeed be foolish. Don't smash rare cartridges with a hammer, kids! That's not really the point of the video.
Yeah - back when coffeescript was new this was an argument, but with "use strict", the likelihood of accidental mis-assignments is actually considerably slower in javascript than in coffeescript. In javascript you'll get an error assigning to a non-existant variable you meant to be global; in coffeescript you'll get a local varaible and that means subtly buggy code.
Heh, sounds like the (great) movie Primer shows a more accurate view of tech start-ups (and I assume the similarities end there...).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390384/
I wonder how many female programmers actually feel oppressed by this?
Try Midori? Runs on Webkit, has all of the base features of the other major browsers (web inspector, bookmarks, etc) without the cloud/syncing features or addons.
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I'm really struggling to imagine customers are going to be ok with that.

Just because a smallish form factor proved propular doesn't mean you're not suddenly going to find a size which is a dealbreaker.

12" is tiny and doesn't really improve portability for a laptop-like device (which goes in a backpack).
I agree with you. People are imparting their own interpretation of the word. When I skimmed the web site, I didn't notice anything relating to the whole "brogrammer" thing.

Just because it starts with the same three letters doesn't mean anything. As already stated in many other comments, "bro" is also, and more commonly, used as a substitute for other colloquial words such as "man", "dude", "guys", and is frequently gender neutral.

These niggling complaints of offense where none was intended is indeed getting old. The author's intent is what actually matters, not how someone else interprets it. A reader gets to choose whether to be offended by a word or not, he doesn't get to choose the author's intent.
I thought it was short for "bro"chure anyway. I ctrl+f'ed brother on every page of that site, and I couldn't find any. If anything, people are placing the gender connotation into this command, like people do with "man"ual... why is it the creator and the people who aren't mentioning gender who are being insensitive? I find this entire argument sexist against myself as a man, as the equivalent of this would be creating something called sis and having everyone come down on your because of the name.
But you completely missed his point. Just because the industry used to use misogynistic terms is not a good reason for it to continue to do so.
I disagree. There is nothing wrong with 'bro' just like there is nothing wrong with a programming language 'Julia'. They are both gender specific and you as an individual can infer whatever you like about the term.

Only you, the individual, can determine how you feel about what someone says or writes, only you can determine whether or not you're insulted.

How something IS vs. how a group FEELS are separate, and one should not confuse the two.
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Just keep in mind, for every comfortable woman in tech, there are many uncomfortable women who stayed out of tech. because of the stuff that for whatever reason doesn't bother you, but does bother them. Their voices are not represented here.

And the tech world is the poorer for it.
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Absolutely, lets throw away our sense of humor and wordplay because there are theoretically people that might be offended (maybe, kindof. You know. In theory.).

(N.B. the people that seem to be offended so far are offended on other peoples behalf..)

Isn't it way more offensive to assume that women are such dainty delicate creatures that like, they won't get the joke?
Yes, I agree we do not provide adequate health care as we ought to.
What about doctors?
How to stop giving a F$% what people think.
I think the obvious flaw in your argument is that the market is very underdeveloped for BTC exchanges. As with any other market, as competitors file in the bid/ask spread will be squeezed significantly. See the currency market.

Also...as positive network effects kick in as Marc said, and more merchants accept it, there will be less incentive to convert to USD. That's where the real value is. As the network of merchants grows, then the transaction costs go to 0 - i.e. in a BTC to BTC world.

I expect companies to come up with products/services that allow you to 'lock in' prices without having to do conversions immediately (kinda like options).

So you can expect to see much more innovation in this space.

Either way...what is clear is that the current spread is the worst that it will ever be because as the network grows that will shrink.
Seems to work for Dane Cook pretty well doesn't it?

Ba Dum Chhhh!

In all seriousness though "funny" is in the eye of the beholder. Jon Benjamin and Mitch Hedberg both tell what amount to non-jokes and have intentionally unfunny standup on occasion and that's actually their whole gig.
Still a bit shorter than Caltrain platforms, but very close. Japan has very long enclosed platforms as well.

It isn't that you can't enclose a long platform - more that it is both costly and requires raised platforms with grade separation.

Caltrain stations are not designed to restrict platform access to ticketed passengers and anyone can just walk to the end of the platform and go around. Subways and many raised-platform stations on high-density lines are designed to restrict platform access in such a way that it is difficult to get around and hop on the tracks.

Of course, not much will stop a very determined person - it is more designed to stop accidents.
Great idea and the name is funny, but it seems to me that the obvious name, just sitting there waiting to be used, is help. Another option would simply be to subvert man (since this is far more useful than man) so e.g. man gives you the examples but gives you a keystroke option to switch to the original man page in the case you actually want it.
(Incidentally, based on the single example being 'bro curl' as in "Do you even lift bro?" curls, I think brogrammer was in fact the origin of the name)

"Do you even lift, bro?" and "brogrammer" are two completely different things, despite both sharing the root "bro". One's a meme that originated from /fit/ (IIRC) and the other is a neologism that describes a frat boy subculture that is allegedly overtaking programming, and as an insult to one who is deemed to be a part of this subculture.

What the fuck is up with you people and seeing "brogrammer" in every word that contains "bro"? Is your understanding of language and etymology that narrow that it does not extend beyond tech circles?
Just wrote something similar. I wholeheartedly agree. Context and Intent are everything when it comes to language.
I hope this implementation fails simply for the retarded name.
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How are any of these software titles that I linked misogynistic?
>1) Catering to every person's sensibilities is impractical.

Catering to every person, sure. But when you get enough people at some point it becomes a significant fraction of the audience instead of a few individual sensibilities, right? Based on volume you see you wouldn't say the portion of the audience with some concerns about the name is significant?

>Yet you also show ignorance of etymology. The term "bro" didn't originate with "brogramming"

I would say that the single example given, a 'bro curl' as in a do-you-even-lift-bro curl, suggests the creators of this tool were at least aware of it. Though intent doesn't matter, just how the audience responds to a name.
Uh, no; it's his responsibility not to be a creep.
Intent doesn't matter? I hope you don't mean that. If someone truly does not mean to be offensive and uses a term either out of ignorance or because they don't associate the word with the same things you do, they are not a "bad person". If you're the most sensitive person in a room or office, do you set the rules of speech? This comment just makes you sound like one of those people that would relish taking someone down over a word choice, regardless if they are actually racist/sexist.

Another thing that's odd, are brogrammers the in-group? Seems they are actually the out-group and are looked down upon by most other people (majority of men and women). But, for whatever reason you choose to view it from a men vs. women mentality talking about locker room mentality and "especially women".

Also, your negroes example is terrible. It's worse than the same type of examples you're arguing about with people in other comments.
Ask HN: should I join the Google / apple class action
I've been an employee (senior software engineer) at apple in cupertino for more than a decade, and am still gainfully employed by apple. Today I received my notification of eligibility to join the class action suit about employee poaching.

Are there any cons to joining the class action? I would imagine my name will become available to my employer as part of any settlement, probably either way. I would likewise imagine that any disciplinary action taken by my employer over my joining the class would be illegal - but subtle discriminations would be hard to prove.

Are there any pros, other than monetary gain? Is anyone familiar with this case (or similar) able to make any estimate as to how much it could be worth to me should the class prevail? Is it likely to be a fixed sum per class member, or a percentage of salary, or some other figure?

Lastly, I'm quite happy where I am and while the cold from google recruiters didn't start until after the conditions of the behavior came to light, I don't necessarily feel like I've been harmed since they still give me gobs of money.

Thanks for any insight. I know I could (and possibly should) ask a lawyer, but since all other class action suits I've been invited to ended up giving things like $10 gift certificates to buy crap from the person that lost the suit, I don't know whether this one is worth my time.
I am not offended on anyone else's behalf, but am personally offended, and I am a man. Don't pretend I don't exist because it's inconvenient to your worldview.
I was pointing out the difference between physical and legal restraints. Indentured servitude, while of the same color, is a much milder situation.

The legal system of course returns an indentured person back, but an indentured servant still has some rights. A slave in the west has no rights.
Fair point, but unrelated to my question :)
Yes i mean selling through soundcloud.
Never had this problem with coffeescript until... today. Some hours after I read this post. Thanks

angular.module("blabla", []).directive "bla", ->

template: """
<div>Whatever<div ng-transclude></div></div></div>
"""
scope: true
transclude: true
restrict: "E"
compile: (element, attributes) ->
$input = element.find "input"
for attr, value of attributes.$attr
$input.attr value, attributes[attr]
element[0].removeAttribute value

(scope, element, attributes) ->
$input = element.find "input"
# do something with $input
# now $input is global to all directive and that sucks
Wasnt there a Supreme court ruling that said it was legal to video tape public officials on public property?
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This one is not worth 90k. It got published on multiple news website and now there's ton of fake bid on it. In good condition it's worth 6k but I've never seen one in this bad shape, it's probably worth much less. The gold one is worth way more, about 20k in good condition.
"most people it is a funny play on words"

No it's just dumb. It's not offensive, not biased or anything else, it's just plain dumb.
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I quite like "pam" [pamphlet] as an alternative - not the manual just a short pamphlet of examples ... or maybe just "ex" or "eg"?

[ex currently is linked to a mode of vim (which I never use) on my system; eg isn't used but the system tells me it's for easygit. "pam" says no command found but that there are 23 similar. I don't know what program provides the suggestions precisely something in the apt ecosystem I suspect]
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Just imagine how upset people would get if you referred to a mixed gender crowd as "ladies"

"come on now ladies lets move the tour along"
"Who you calling 'lady'!?"

Guys really is just a historically ingrained shorthand. I don't think I've ever heard it used in this sort of context to cause harm. Using "Ladies" in this way, on the other hand, could cause yourself harm.
http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Not_a_woman

http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/You%27re_the_sexist#.22Ta...
> What does intent matter?

I would argue that intent is all that matters. If people want to foist their interpretation onto the word, that's their issue, not mine or the author's (if he wasn't relating it to "brogrammer" that is, I can't speak to his thought process).

The vast majority of people would consider "bro" a substitute colloquialism for "dude", and such. And, I would be willing to bet that that is how most in IT would take it, too.
Why don't man pages have more examples, is it because of space, or the work to maintain them (including making sure they still work?)

Although man pages is where I go for the syntax and option definitions, stack-overflow has become my go-to place for examples. I think this "bro pages" is an attempt to fill a need but if the tool-owner is willing, a man page approved by the owner seems like it will be more authoritative.

Man pages seem like a great place for people who want to contribute to open-source to try and submit patches containing examples (unless examples are prohibited by most patch-approvers). I hate writing documentation, including examples, so I won't be adding in either spot, but lots of people on stack-overflow seem to have a desire and some have a knack for it.
What happens in that case? Does it get sold to the next real bidder?
You pretty much nailed it.

For some greater detail: AAR regulations require that trains that run on lines which include freight traffic meet certain weight and crash standards. US freight cars have the highest standard axle loads in the world, so any train that runs where it can hit one must be able to withstand a head-on collision. The sole exception to the rule is when all freight traffic runs at a particular time when no passenger trains are running, with derails (a safeguard) in place to keep any freight from making it on to the tracks outside the window.

Caltrain runs on the old Southern Pacific line, which includes several on-line customers and a few branch lines. Due to the way the line is made, there is no way to have the required separation without significant upgrades.

Finally, stop-assist is now doable via GPS signals and other lineside equipment, removing the need for signalling upgrades. However, it also requires either lighter equipment or disc brakes on all cars along with equipment in the cab. Both are quite costly, and always require a homogenous fleet with the exact same door configuration.
Maybe most people's first reaction to the man command is that it refers to men. Maybe the man in manual is interpreted in early programmers heads as meaning men. Maybe it's part of the nomenclature that is the fabric of the current, male dominated programming scene.

Maybe naming this tool 'bro' is a satire of both bro culture and rtfm style exclusionary patriarchy. I dunno. Maybe not.
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Make it 20. lol
So would you have been happy if it had been named "woman"? (I imagine not, "oh, there is a version of man pages that only shows simple examples and you decided to name it 'woman'?")
I don't want to debate with you; I've done more than my share of religious debates in my life and no longer find any joy in them. I also completely agree that debating definitions is rarely useful. I will point out, though, that nobody claims to have faith that the Earth revolves around the Sun, or that the sky is blue. "Faith" connotes a leap; I understand that as a leap from the evidence to the conclusion, covering a gap that cannot be covered by logical reasoning. It's that leap that I take issue with, regardless of which word you choose to label it with.

You've repeatedly recommended a book of apologetics throughout the thread. If I could make a recommendation in turn: Critique of Religion and Philosophy, by Walter Kaufmann. I think it can give you much to think about, and from a reasonably friendly perspective.
I agree, this is a really poorly thought concept. I almost skipped this entry because it's started with bro which is a word used to describe some really despicable and stupid attitude. I did click because it said man pages which are really useful.

I have a local set of files full of notes and examples and I will not share them with bro pages for two reasons: 1) the name 2) the ruby requirement which limits its reach and usefulness.
Can't the "bro" be actually ridiculing 'bros' and their culture, because bros are corny anyway?

I see too many male white knights in here, are there any women here who are actually offended?
i live in santa monica, which in my mind is like an improved san francisco, and an improved los angeles, combined. i can always see a tiny twinge of jealousy when i tell current-SFers that i live in SM now. :)

it's not perfect but it's good for me. i have an amazing view from both home and the office, i can walk OR drive OR cab to get food/coffee/clothes/entertainment, and have access to the rest of LA if i choose to leave the sm/westside bubble.
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A huge loss -- he sounds like he was a great person, and dying in an attempt to save a stranger's life is testimony to that.
Texas has simultaneously some of the best and worst schools everywhere, like most states. I spent two years in a CA high school and two years in a TX high school and the difference was worlds apart—the CA school was a joke. Falling apart, horrid teachers paid below the poverty line, huge drug and violence issues. All AP classes have been cut.

The Texas school, conversely, was a palace of education. Better in every way. Highly-paid teachers, actual funding for extracurriculars, buildings that weren't condemned. Four years of computer science classes.

Are there bad schools in Texas? Absolutely. But the fact is (unfair as it may be) that in the areas a software developer is likely to live, the schools are fantastic.
Dr Strangelove started as a drama. Then Kubrick was reportedly overwhelmed by it all one day and realized it was a comedy.