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Isn't there a way how to teach those adolescent males to behave like humans? If their behavior is that bad that it makes uncomfortable learning environment for other students, then it needs to be addressed.

I'm woman and my experience is that most adolescent males are not apes and are able to act like human. Separating them by gender is accepting bad behavior as norm when it actually is not a norm. Young polite males are often off putted by pseudo-masculinity too, but you just told those that they have to suck it up.

The stereotype of adolescent male being half ape is as a accurate as the stereotype of woman being way too much emotional. Despite stereotypes, most young males are ok people and most young females are able to reason rationally.
Actually most men who program are just interested in it. Same with the ladies. Discussing gender is irrelevant to this forum. This new age jargon will have a short shelf life once the truth gets out. Those who sow seeds of discord will soon have to reap their crops.
Businesses are not persons, and it's creepy for them to try and fake personal relationships via CRM databases.
There are ultimately other constraints on density. For California, as with much of the West, water is an ultimate limit. Though the argument that San Francisco cannot increase housing densities on account of water access is ... even in this drought year ... likely invalid. Largely as the housing is being constructed elsewhere within the same larger watershed.

There are other constraints. San Francisco traffic, parking, and transit are all fairly strained as it is, particularly in the the denser core of the City (downtown, SOMA, Mission). Access from the outer neighborhoods to the core can be as long or longer than suburban commutes, though bicycles offer a pretty good year-round alternative.

For San Francisco, biting the bullet and allowing additional housing to be built, yes, even housing that is primarily marketed to the nouveau riche and upscale, would likely relieve much of the pressure for the rest of the community.

Another solution, of course, would be to provide more housing and more attractive housing throughout the rest of the region. As Geoffrey Nunberg recently commented icily, Palo Alto is a wonderful place to raise a car (and PA is positively urban compared to much of the greater, or should I say, worser, Silicon Valley). While much of SF is limited to heights of 3 stories, the Valley is, with very, very few scattered exceptions, one. Accepting that it is in fact part of a larger megapolis and acting like it would be a net benefit.

Too would be for employers to locate to other locations accessible via transit. Oakland, Berkeley, Emeryville, and other stops along BART have the benefit of a commute system with high levels of service and a broad collection region. And yet the bulk of tech jobs continue to be located either along the 101 corridor (a hellhole), in the South Bay, or, increasingly, in San Francisco. With the exception of the last, transit is a barely viable option, and even within SF, unless you're in the dense cores (again: downtown, SOMA, Mission), access to what transit there is down the Peninsula is highly limited. The dedicated company shuttles are an extremely appropriate response to the situation, and the outrage against them wholly misplaced.

Is this a bubble? Probably. Are some of the new arrivals annoying and socially maladroit? Quite. Does that change any of my commentary? No.

San Francisco isn't the only region faced with high housing costs: New York, London, and Mumbai all have similar (and arguably worse) challenges. There are many parts of the world, and numerous of those within the US, which would love to have these problems. Addressing the situation rationally, unfortunately, seems difficult to impossible, and sadly many of the tantrum-throwing children (on all sides of the issue) draw the most attention. Shame on the media for that.
The naming is historical baggage. In practice, "HOV lanes" today serve two (intended) purposes: (1) reduce gridlock; (2) reduce pollution. As originally conceived, (2) could only be achieved by actual high occupancy vehicles being used to reduce the number of vehicles on the road. Now it can also be achieved by low- or zero-emission vehicles, hence the exception.
Never in my life I've seen an article named I'm teacher and I'm a male!; Life as a male nurse; etc..

I think these articles are mainly link-bait for pageviews, nothing more.
( Ada Lovelace, Grace Hopper, etc. )

I think the problem is that we always name these two. Ada Lovelace died 161 years ago. Is she really all that relevant a role model for girls today?
Snus is a relevant data point to support Synaesthesia's claim. It is (non smoke) tobacco, but won't give you cancer or destroy your lungs (still not healthy with nicotine, of course, but many times less bad).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snus
You make it sound like there were boys running around them in circles every class all class long.
But its a good discussion, hope one of you comes with a less dramatic solution.
That's a shame. The "smoke" from e-cigarettes is just vapour, and no more harmful to the people around the user than steam from a kettle.

However, there's a discussion to be had here, and it's possibly more important than the one surrounding cigarettes and second-hand smoke. It's a brand new industry and a brand new habit that people are only starting to adjust to.

Ecig manufacturers are, at present, allowed to advertise their product publicly, and sell them as a lifestyle choice. They're even allowed to advertise on TV, something that the tobacco boys haven't been able to do for a very long time (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2517504/VIP-E-cigare...).

As an ecig user myself I find myself using it indoors regularly. I'm harming nobody but myself with it. But that's the problem - it's normalised the recreational ingestion of nicotine, and it's only going to become more popular.

Smokers, even reformed smokers like myself, aren't going to change their habits unless they're forced to do so. So while many people are put off by indoor ecig use, until the law changes to forbid it, you're just going to have to deal with it.
> Every female would have had to get over the constant
> systematic assumption that they didnt belong in this field,
> from the culture being the only girl in the room / on the
> team / to the constant assumptions that they are in
> marketing at meetups and generally just reminded at ever
> step that they 'dont belong'

Which they have in many more prestigious and traditionally more masculine fields, with medicine being the prime example.
Way to throw out the righteous indignation before anything actually happened. That doesn't add to the conversation at all and, if anything, just invites problems.
"The extracted information will contain NHS numbers, date of birth, postcode, ethnicity and gender."

Yikes! Date of birth AND postcode? Pseudoanonymous that is not.
Every single time this topic is mentioned someone makes the comment about nurses or teachers; or women in construction.

There are programmes aimed at getting more men into nursing and teaching. There are programmes aimed at getting more women into construction.
Turns out there are like... 5 Lord Vishnus on Google Plus.
I dunno, programming can be as fun as any other art, and the money is good and secure. And I don't see how this analysis incorporates gender at all -- unless you're saying women are better at decision-making than men, heh
The lack of male teachers is considered a problem by many people in education. A lot of words were written and conferences organized on the topic.

tl;dr: the consensus seems to be that it would be better if there would be more male teachers so the boys would have more teachers to relate to.
> to the constant assumptions that they are in marketing at meetups

I often get "so, you're a designer?"
How about just being harsh on "psuedo-masculine efforts"? Just like if you had mostly white kids and they made the black kids "feel uncomfortable" by "awkward" kids, the answer is to meet the stupid jokes and what not with sincerity and make them realise how absurd the behaviour is. Just like in other co-ed classes if boys make whatever jokes, it gets slapped down.

Separating things sounds like it'd just make the male stuff even worse since there's no negative feedback. And it doesn't strengthen the girls to speak out when a guy tries some dumbass posturing or whatever.

And I say this even while planning to send my daughters to all-girls school just for possible reduction in the general adolescent "distractions". I just don't see what's comp-sci specific.
Seems logical.

I don't touch weed at all. I vape part-time and have found that it helps with the nicotine craving, but man... I love smoking. Reading articles like this push me further and further away from 'analogs', as we say.

Addictions aside, vaping is a better alternative for days when I have meetings and have to work around others.
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good Lord.. that's not for me.
Me too. The picture looks like a publicity shot for a SWAT based sitcom. I mean, it doesn't 'arf bolster the fat american stereotype.
What leads you to believe they might be dangerous?
> Given the fact that most of the times we get the sugar version of the story via Hollywood or books...

Do we? I'd expect to get the version of the story that sells, which is likely to have added drama.

Might it be that Jobs, Zuckerberg and Gates are more prominent than Page and Brin, precisely because of all the stuff we criticise them for?
patio11, you're usually right on the money, but not this time. While it is true that the programming mistake was probably small, the end result was catastrophic for these parents. I would ask you to step back and reevaluate your "take on consensual reality" in this case. And at what point did anyone consent to being marketed to as grieving parents?
Permalinks to comments are not a thing yet on G+.

Which is why the OP took a screenshot of it: https://plus.google.com/+CarmsPerez/posts/cDK6ZNpZ6YH (this was the original link; the mods decided this was too convenient).
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Main breakers in the UK are often RCDs, which do in fact trip in the case of grounding issues. The main breaker usually feeds into several circuit breakers.

Generally the wiring goes: mains input -> 1 or more RCDs -> several circuit breakers -> several outlets -> fuse in plug -> appliance.

So a grounding fault can take out many circuits, and many-lots of sockets.
> "Plus women have to take breaks in their 20's and 30's for maternity reasons."

Women aren't required to have kids?
There's a gender imbalance in the programming field. This, to many, is worthy of thought. If you think you really know what's relevant to be discussed on Hacker News, you should shoot pg an email volunteering to moderate, see how that goes
You are ignoring all the evidence that young females learn better in single sex classes.

By keeping mixed sex classes you are already putting females at a disadvantage.
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>Those three programs are, in most cases, barely enough to live on, especially not to live comfortably.

So was the stipend in this story. 6k per year, then later 8k? who could live on this
"Assigning a label to myself like “hacker” or “developer” gives me the heebie-jeebies."

This in particular is not limited to women. As a guy from a non-CS background, I felt the same way for a long time. I'd say it's a function of experience rather than gender.
I suspect it is somewhere around 80%.

It seems inconceivable to me that a US house might not have a microwave (even unfurnished apartments I rented from slumlords in college came with microwaves), but apparently many do not: http://www.eia.gov/emeu/recs/appliances/appliances.html
What we're discussing here isn't how to maximize happiness. An entrepreneur's job isn't to be happy, it's to get things done.

I specifically bring up entrepreneurs because 1.) I assume most people here can connect and 2.) it's one of the professions where short term productivity fix (2-3 years) is more important than bringing a lifetime of "fixes"

Yes you can solve your underlying procrastination problem. But assuming it's an underlying psychological issue, can you genuinely undue decades of "damage" in short enough timeframe to run your company?

Simply put, there just isnt' time for you to accomplish whatever habit you didn't have before but want to gain by using a system. That's why a system is great for people who are fine with a stable, long-term job. But for an entrepreneur, a "quick fix" solution of using goals will get you further.
And the counter to that is that 1) legislation has begun in a number of places, New York, Chicago, etc., to ban the indoor smoking of e-cigarettes because, at least primarily 2) the anti-smoking campaign so effectively illustrated the dangers of second-hand smoke, that people are now conditioned to equate smoke with evil (even smokers, like myself) so, despite the fact that e-cig 'smoke' is actually just vapor, many people are put off of it because of the stigma.

Also, at least in New York, the legislative bodies expressed great concern that e-cig users could gasp actually be smoking liquid THC instead of liquid THC, which still wouldn't be harmful, but they're worried about the evils that would certainly infest the hearts of men as a result.
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Drawing ideological boundaries is always a fraught process.

Traditional GNU/Linux systems include a great deal of BSD/MIT licensed software. Locally, I've got over 3100 packages installed on a Debian box. Running grep over /usr/share/doc/*/copyright I find:

2555 of these are GPL licensed, 774 BSD, 1462 reference MIT (this may include non-license references, "MIT License" nets 28 entries), 139 Apache, 25 Python, etc.

Stallman's argument is over the core of the OS, which he makes a fair case for being kernel + compiler + core libraries. In the case of Linux, that's straight up GNU for #'s 2 and 3.
So the net benefit to society is negative. Fewer students have a higher education, so people with research experience going into industry are reduced. The only people this benefits are the elite few getting into these tenure-track PhD student positions. Sounds pretty selfish to me.
Errr, short-circuiting to ground will cause a RCD to trip immediately - that's what they're there for. You will generally have one RCD on the entire fuse board, and then individual circuit breakers for each branch.
Did you read the truth?
What exactly do you hate about it? You're unsure of the harm, and quick searches seem to indicate no harm, so is it just the aesthetic?
I vape part-time and sneak in a pull here and there in public -- but it still feels wrong despite the lack of pollution.

This said, the vape scene is awesome for us hackers. The e-cigs that look more like cigarettes don't have as much of a scene, and aren't as enjoyable as a variable voltage, low-ohm 'pipe'.
>>you mean to run a "competitive company" you have to abuse your employees?

Not at all, but to be a "competitive company" you have to be "competitive" which is essentially doing better than your competition. The issue is someone is always willing to put more effort than you/your company. This is where it all breaks down.

This is exactly what makes our profession so much sought after. Because at some point you can make money non linear to your effort, and if you compress that effort into a small period of time you can make a fortune.

For every person that is happy to go back working 4 hours a day, there are people to put in 16 hours a day.

>>It is just unfortunate for India that our so-called IT Industry is just marketing itself as cheap and easy-to-abuse labour.

IT professionals in India are not cheap. Compare it with any other profession in India, even engineers. We come out easily as better paid people here.

And even a cursory look at the start up industry across the world, not just in India will tell you what kind of a fierce competition it is.
So how's your militant MRA cult going?
How do you make the determination that the interest is necessarily "natural" when children's minds are so pliable growing up? It's a proven fact that boys and girls are treated differently by their parents and the media, and surely their older peers...
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A better reply would have been "we'd like mean to take paternity leave too".

I sometimes wonder if HN commentors ever think that maybe their comments might leave them open to legal liability in some future case.
To me it reads like the usual right wing rhetoric, and that any tax collection is some form of evil socialism. Not quite sure how these people expect their flag waving military, for example, to be funded without the big corporation paying their fair share, but there you go.

Never understood why many Americans don't see paying tax as the ultimate act of patriotism, paying for the country they claim to love. They love the country, but resent paying for it. How does that work? Are they the ultimate freetards?
It's very simple for me: From 20s to 30s most women are having babies, because it's the only time on their lives when they can do it safely. They can go startuping later.

Male coders on their 20s are mostly coding and brofounding because they don't have a better thing to do. IMHO It's even not such a good idea to go having babies at this age for a male because you are mostly broke all the time and you are still a teenager.

When people talk about Female founders or coders I think they mean young pretty female founders. There are few, and for good reasons.

I see no shortage of older females in software managament or software arch. positions and many moms are just fine doing startups on their 50s.
primitivesuave's post is fraught with unconscious sexism. That is the problem.

First he generalizes that all adolescent males put on "pseudo-masculine efforts". No they don't. That's just as much a stereotype as "all girls suck at coding" or whatever stereotype-du-jour militant feminists are raging about this week.

Maybe a few of the students put on "displays" that he considers to be "pseudo-masculine efforts". That is a reflection of his own judgment of stereotypes though, not something innate to adolescent boys.

Then his proposed solution is to segregate males and females to facilitate learning.

Think about that.

Rather than discipline the kids who are acting out, teaching them to act in ways appropriate to civil society, he thinks that segregating boys and girls is the correct play. Even by his own logic, he's perpetuating the gender divide. Rather than stop the "pseudo-masculine efforts", he removes the women from the situation so that said "pseudo-masculine efforts" can continue. It's a really, really bizarre 'solution' when smoothing the gender divide is a stated goal.

It's akin to a company's HR getting complaints from female staff that the male executives are swearing too much or making sexual jokes or _insert_stereotypical_sexist_male_exec_behavior_here_. Rather than addressing the offending behavior, HR chooses to give females the "opportunity" to go have their own meetings down the hall on different days. No sane person thinks that will make strides towards gender equality. It will end in females being relegated to admin/secretary land while the executive boys club carries on.
Downvote simply because someone disagree is like telling other to shut up and don't ever talk about it. That's not the right attitude to respect disagreements.
It's possibly the same problem as other places: Zoning laws. The politicians and voting age population typically are in the age bracket where they own property... There was a good article on it in FT alphaville about a year and a half back.
I think it's safe to say that the burning of something that you directly inhale is the principal killer, regardless of what's in it. When burning organic matter, there tend to be many byproducts produced. Often more harmful than not. Odds are we didn't evolve to breathe them on a constant basis. If we had, this stuff wouldn't give us mouth and lung diseases so much, would it?

If we had evolved to tolerate doing this to ourselves, then we wouldn't be arguing about this. IMHO, some people do seem to adapt better to burning things and inhaling them. BUT I'm not going to test that out on myself for 20 years only come out the other side with lung cancer (or worse). It's a crapshoot, really. Your call. Plus, I like the fact my sense of taste and smell works better than it did when I was a smoker.

If the nicotine in tobacco didn't give you the high you feel when smoking, would people still be smoking and getting cancer? Probably not. People like getting high. Take that away and what reason is there to smoke? But I digress...

So, to answer your question, "all of the above". You smoke to get high from the nicotine, but the other shit in the smoke is what your body can't tolerate (generally speaking, as yes I agree there are many instances of people living perfectly normal lives smoking the whole time).

I'd take up smoking e-cigarettes if you feel it's safer to you (long term) than smoking cigarettes.
I was doing a Ph.D to become a lecturer, which is technically a teacher. Have you seen the pay for teachers and lecturers? I'm making more in my first year of tech contracting than a mid-career academic or teacher would make in salary.

I've got a male friend working in nursing. I admire his dedication to caring for people, but there's no way I'd switch places. I get to write Python all day, he gets to clean up other people's bodily fluids for a dismal salary. We both think we've got the better deal in life because he gets to care for people while I just write dull programmes for computers to make some business more financially successful, and that's got no grand overriding meaning unless you are a hardcore capitalist Ayn Rand type.

Why is nursing not attractive to men? Because men don't care about people? Absolutely not. How about: because of low pay and because gender roles dictate that it's not a "manly" thing to do? Indeed, the friend who works in nursing is a campy and effeminate gay man. Which matches the stereotype.

The reasons men and women go into particular jobs isn't set in stone. There's no gene that turns one person into a programmer and another into a nurse. It's social conditioning, it's stereotypical gender roles, it's educational opportunities, it's pay and benefits - it's a whole bunch of shit we can change.

If a woman wants to go into computing, she should be able to without having to deal with stupid nerds-as-the-new-frat-boys brogrammer bullshit, and if guys want to go into nursing, they should be able to do so with their heads held high and without anyone questioning their masculinity or making assumptions about their sexuality. Blowing up society's gender roles and expectations is key to this.
OP was the one calling out condescending people, actually
But yet there are great examples of cities that allow building, have increased the heights of buildings, and maintain the character of the city. Paris springs to mind, as does Edinburgh.

So long as "character" isn't defined as "3 stories", it should be possible to build to 6 stories whilst maintaining façades, retail space, etc and yet doubling available space and improving the standard of housing that exists (oh man, that dodgy wiring in every place in Mission I've ever stayed).

Do the residents realise the connection between scarcity and price, and that they are able to do something about it?

From the stuff that appears on here, it seems that there is a lot of anger against large companies but little reflection that the root imbalance in supply is caused by policies set by the population (or at least, in their name).
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> won't give you cancer.

Untrue. "Smokeless tobacco is a major cause of oral cancer, pancreatic cancer, and esophageal cancer."

http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/features/snus-tobacco...