skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Get a good lawyer.

Really it boils down to this: can you build and market the product without their assistance? Will you find angel / seed / VC funding on your own? Can you bootstrap?

If those answers are yes, I'd say do it on your own. If they are no, your "decision" is already made for you, really.

Be careful that they know what your intentions are. That can help stay out of troublesome situations. If you intend to be a vendor, then make sure they know that you want to sell this elsewhere. If you're under contract, or a work-for-hire, they probably own the work.

And make sure to consult a real lawyer on any contracts.
I've only heard it from the horse's mouth. Their FAQ has a bit http://bit.ly/pages/faq/
A lot of spending is corrupt like that: One F-22 part in every Congressional district? That's hugely wasteful.

I remember reading a few years back about some kind of troop transport that cost a cool billion to make - and the armed forces didn't want it any more! They had enough, they didn't want more, but it was built in an important senator's district, so they kept making this useless transport that they military didn't want.

Way too much corruption and pork in American politics. The government should be ruthless about getting the best prices. Whenever you do business, you assume a risk you can't collect - with the government, it's the most stable game in town, and they have economies of scale. They should be getting between a 10% and 70% discount over market rates on everything they buy, instead of paying 20% to 4000% premiums like they do.
Interesting. :) It works in OmniWeb 5.9 (WebKit-based, though an older version).
You can get automatic UK citizenship after 10 years
Many two or three microphones can do better? Distinguishing position or something. That can be very useful.
We (http://sleep.fm) redirect IE6 users to an older version of the site that has less features.

Not sure, if that's suffice for this campaign or not?
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Weird. In this video they have people hand stuffing envelopes but in the original article they have a machine stuffer. I wonder, is the video just outdated?
And if an jailbroken iphone is such a threat to the towers, at what point do we point the finger at apple saying it is there responsibility to ensure their device can't crash the towers.

Anti-competitive practices are not even related to the case/issue of what they allow/disallow in the app store.
There's only so much space to design a widget that works for 640x480 resolution. We're already recommending 4 browsers, many others didn't make the cut (Opera, Konqueror, Flock, etc)
How about asking at stackoverflow.com?
The time when you can borrow the money is a limited window, usually, around 17-23. If you don't understand that this is important and possible, the window vanishes.

You are right that there is a limited window, but it is not so tied to age. My wife was a "nontraditional student" and they were more than happy to give her student loans.

A better threshold is kids and mortgage. If you have real dependents that need money now for things like food/diapers/clothes then it becomes much more challenging, perhaps insurmountable.
Have you moved the the rc for 0.9, yet? If so, is it stable enough to rely on (in your opinion)?
Do you make these users aware that's what you're doing, and that their experience on the site would be better in a modern browser?

I think the point of this campaign is to make IE6 users aware (if they aren't already) that they're using an obsolete browser.
We actually provide this for mandarin as part of my business (http://popupchinese.com). And if you're looking for a data point, we charge $25 for three 20 minute sessions a week. The workload ends up being about as intense as taking a regular night course, except that it is one-on-one with a teacher.

Textbooks and traditional classrooms are way back on the curve. They prioritize the organizational problems of schools instead of the learning needs of students.
http://www.yourworldoftext.com/newsyc
Dis omdat ek Afrikaans is dat ek sukkel met die spel. God dank vir MS Spell Check.
Some compatibility problems don't regard HTML, so this compatibility mode is irrelevant - for instance in COM apps using the IE browser control, upgrades to IE7/8 are known to cause problems.
The official browser at my office is IE6. Of course I have chrome, firefox and safari installed, but most employees here don't have local admin access.

>who are these unsympathetic robots who

The enterprise IT department that's who.
Vampire fiction era almost over: Gaiman
My last employer used SaaS. It went unreachable one weekend...
That already happens with PayPal.
So they're forced to pay into the unemployment system through taxation but once they need to use some of that money, it's not ok?

Please, if you don't like the system, argue for a different system. You aren't going to change the behavior of these people by putting them down.
I would have chosen the reverse of the default mapping of the up and down keys. The most common vertical keyboard movement is downward, so it should be under the stronger finger. The vi keyboard movement commands make the right choice in this respect.
off-topic, but i love your design on obsidianportal.com.
It also works fine in Chrome.
I bet many marketing departments would be happy to switch to CPC, even if it increases costs, because they are paying for results, not traffic.

From Google's perspective, this also gets them out of the business of auditing clicks. Giving them insight into conversions at the customer side also gives them another metric to evaluate the quality of content pages where they are placing ads, and potentially for refining their search algorithm.
I doubt it means that because, for example, it doesn't work from Canada. It still redirects to google.ca.
Actually I think the response would be, "What's a browser?"
The current issue is that we allocate and free small structures very, very rapidly. They have very short lifespan, and there are never (in the average case) more than a few around at any one time. After profiling, we saw lots of time spent in malloc, and wrote a fixed-size-slab bitfield-based allocator which gave fantastic performance.

There are some other issues with the same piece of code that need re-working, and we'll end up with a totally different approach by the end, so I don't really have a problem that needs a crowd solution; I was just curious what everyone here thinks.
In fact, Python and Ruby both are very high level, multiparadigm (oop, procedural, functional, ...) dynamic languages and the difference between them is pretty small. One is a bit more perlish, and one is focussing on a clear, deterministic syntax. Thus, I think the conclusion easily generalizes.

As one wise man once said: Wether you prefer Python or Ruby depends mostly on which one you met first.
Maybe have a minimap feature? In the right hand corner, or a way to jump to the activity? I scrolled around for a while before I found where all the action was.

Or a search feature. I think the trending topic is penis right now.
I guess what I was trying to say was unclear. Or maybe I am the only one who has this problem. I find that programming languages get in the way of thinking. There is all this extra work involved in typing up the program and making it real. Even a minimalist language like Python seems too much (for example, it makes me list self as an argument for each method).
The decorator syntax

@decorator2
@decorator1
def foo(*args):
pass

is just a shorthand for

def foo(*args):
pass
foo = decorator2(decorator1(foo))

I completely fail to see the visitor pattern here, even with stretching until breaking.
But:
number of customers that want to sit on couch in front of TV and watch rented movie with family
>
number of people who want to watch download on computer * (1 - fraction of computer capable watchers do this for free)
If you knew the position of the sensors, you could probably calculate a position from audio/vibration delays. You could make a kit for converting a normal whiteboard into a recording surface.

Simply place sensors on the board corners and tell the software about their placement and the dimensions of your board. You need three sensors to do a proper triangulation, but you only need two if you know the sensors are in corners. With only two corner sensors, one of the two possible locations would be off the board, so you could throw that point out. If you can reliably sense whiteboard marker and eraser sounds, you could reliably "save" the whiteboard state.
Doesn't work in Shiretoko 3.5.3pre.
I didn't criticise meta-discussion in general; I only commented on points discussions.

Hiding points is not a new proposal. It came up yesterday (under http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=739969 ) and has probably come up before.

My success criteria would be whether hiding points results in fewer points discussions than exposing them.
Here, take my gimicky "organic gel" crap and a breath mint and we'll market the hell out of it and sell it for $10.

I'm actually surprised it's so cheap. I'm sure she could crank up the price a bit and people would still go crazy for this.
Warehouse with million * untraceable, easily sold, small items worth $10 each. Security costs = $$$.
You can't isolate the quality variable. The quality of the site ebbs and flows; there are good days and bad days. The quality on the days when points are off is more likely to be random than connected to whether or not the points are displayed.
Ask HN: RescueTime Users?
Granted if I were a founder of RescueTime, I'd make many of the same decisions, but as a user, the changes in the last month or so have been difficult.

I've been evangelizing RescueTime (because I like it, not because I work for them) for a very long time and this past month a friend of mine signed up and asked "what version are you on?"

That question was news. I logged in (I usually revisited my stats monthly) and the UI's different and my stats are different because my tags are obliterated and my custom scoring is gone.

Now if I want to get back to where I was, I need to do some organizational work and start paying as well.

Again, I understand the motivation, but as an end-user, that experience sucked. Now I honestly don't know if I can recommend it, because I haven't been using the new release.

Now what?

Anyone else have a similar experience?
It's also the reason that the time of day you mail your DVD back has no effect on when you receive your next one.

Huh? Sure it doesn't matter if you send it before the last pick up of the day: Netflix will receive and ship a DVD the next day and I get the movie the day after.

But if I drop it off after the last pickup time (after 5:00pm for me), I get a DVD back a day later rather than the usual 2-day turnaround.
What I Learned From Twiistup VI
There are more ways to skin a cat than nuking the site from orbit, but it's the only way to be sure.
How many of the member sites have this implemented already? I don't see the code on Weebly, Posterous, or Disqus. I'm sure this isn't a drop everything, must-have, showstopper feature, but it might be good to implement it before you start telling people you do :)
It works in IE4. Just kidding.
> My success criteria would be whether hiding points results in fewer points discussions than exposing them.

That's an excellent observation.
I've sent you some mail about this. Very interesting indeed!
Cool, but it's starting to drop some keystrokes for me.
Nice SEO move for Weebly :)
http://blog.digg.com/?p=878 <==== Data

Digg surveyed IE6 users. 76% of those surveyed DO NOT HAVE THE POWER/AUTHORITY/ABILITY to upgrade.

"Giving them a message saying, “Hey! Upgrade!” in this case is not only pointless; it’s sadistic.

We’re committed to developing to Web standards and building new ways to help you discover the best of the Web. Keeping an eye on what technologies folks use and why they’re being used is a big part of it."
That's not how you spell "Kaizen".
> The future is here.

The future is here. It's just not evenly distributed yet.
-- William Gibson
Bottled water is way more complicated than Timberland CEO thought
Backspace doesn't work for me but everything else does - I'm on Chrome.
hell, back when I used to work for more restrictive companies I was still able to download the zip version of firefox, unzip it into ~mydocuments, and run it from there.
On a related note, one of the more interesting lightning talks at YAPC this year was about the Tactical Amulet Extraction Bot, a framework for programmatically playing nethack. Here's a blog about it: http://taeb-blog.sartak.org/

And the code: http://search.cpan.org/~sartak/TAEB-0.03/lib/TAEB.pm

I think it's been discussed here at HN once or twice, as well.
I posted an eerily similar comment 2 minutes after yours (minus the yelling). I also found the digg survey quite revealing.
A few other suggestions:

It is too chaotic but I can see you taking this in different directions. You need a way to direct the flow, potentially even in a useful direction (I am thinking Yahoo/Mahalo Answers), or just like a trending topics feature in which different worlds are based on tags.

Another thing you could do is to have a reset or form a new world every few minutes. This way there is a new slate.

What you will probably need to end up doing in order to monetize this idea is to build a site around it. User profiles, trending topics, different links, regional worlds, answers, /random/, and /ANSI art/ (read: penises)
This... is magic. Plain and simple.

Desktop fabricators, now "touchable" holograms.

What a great time to be alive :)
Only on the Internet: Get paid to wear a company’s shirt
That's not strictly true. Take a look at http://plausible.org/nasal for an example of an interpreter (mine) in the same broad space as Python and Ruby, yet without a global lock for anything but garbage collection (fixable -- there's no reason in principle preventing a concurrent GC from being dropped in). In tests of CPU-bound code without excessive allocation, it scales to 4-way SMP without trouble.
Do you offer the option to download a modern browser ?
works OK in Opera 9 and 10
Works for Australia though for some reason.
Isn't just about everyone left using IE6 a corporate user whose employer won't let them upgrade? While I'd love to see the death of IE6 & 7 as much as anyone, I think most people using IE6 probably have firewalls that block Reddit and Justin.tv.

On the other hand, this certainly cannot hurt.
I use Code Browser: http://code-browser.sf.net
It folds text so it is similar to having a mind map or personal wiki. But it is still a text editor, which I like and feel most at home in.
I wrote an article about it:
http://www.chrylers.com/agile-knowledge-management
Main concerns:

Guard your IP - watch out for open-ended "due diligence" requests or anything else that might leave your IP vulnerable to a predatory partner.

Guard your funding options - if they invest as part of the deal, don't give them veto rights over future funding.

Guard your competitive turf - any "partner," and especially a well-funded one, can easily become your competitor after the relationship is over. See a good lawyer about steps to prevent this.

Guard your people - raiding is not unheard of in this context. Include no-hire clauses in your documents.

Guard your rights to derivatives from any joint development - unless you want to create a competitor, don't do as a work-for-hire but get joint rights or, better yet, sole rights to derivatives from the SOW.

Guard your own distribution opportunities - limit exclusivity strictly as to time and type of channel.

Guard your back from the start - use a good lawyer even at the term sheet stage because both structure and fine points are critical in this type of relationship and you will prejudice yourself if you let poor terms define a term sheet only to have to dig out of them in doing the definitive docs.

And don't let them snow you with the "we use these standard documents only" approach - every deal like this is highly customizable and should be done that way.

Your description is too general to know what other factors might apply but these are some big ones for many of these types of deals. Hope it helps.
It's painfully slow, and I ran into some glitches (ctrl v outputting only first letter). pretty fun, anyway.

what about different (random) colors for different users, and a fade over time so older words decay?
Code Browser: A Folding Text Editor
I wonder if this idea could be expanded in a Mechanical Turk type site. Startups could get untraditional exposure by paying people from all around the country to wear their shirts. I'm sure there would be plenty of people out there who wouldn't mind getting $10 for just wearing a shirt, and that works out to be pretty cheap advertising.
I don't get it, what are you supposed to do?
Thanks for mentioning that link -- that's a nice library.
I wonder how "live" the data is? It's seriously fun to sit and just watch.
The Digg survey shows that 70% of IE6 users are corporate, but there's no indication how representative that is of the web as a whole.

Either way, this initiative is targeted straight at those users. We've heard from several sources that many corporate IT departments don't feel any need or urgency to upgrade, and receive very few complaints. We see this as a start -- the more complaints the IT department gets (especially from on top), the more pressure they'll feel to upgrade. Even if they can't upgrade IE 6 due to legacy applications, they could always install a version of Firefox side-by-side and only use IE 6 for the legacy apps.

For the other subset of IE6 users (moms, grandmothers, etc), this will be a great notice to let them know that their web experience is seriously degraded, and that they should strongly consider upgrading their web browser.
Feds at DefCon Alarmed After RFIDs Scanned
I love how everything's penis, or gay, or some variation thereof. Scrolling around to find the more erudite conversations was remarkably fun though. I kind of like it just as it is..
From the article: "Fitch’s experiments were inconclusive on the subject of whether Chomsky’s universal grammar applied to the Pirahã"
And Tecumseh Fitch is the one who developed a concept of Recursion in linguistics.
How do you explain that?
Aside from the automation, keep in mind that there are people that don't necessarily need a high wage.

For instance, what is a living wage for a college student can be very low. My college job started at $7 and it paid my living expenses. Similarly, if one person in the household is earning enough to cover the bills the partner might be content earning enough for luxuries.
Bodega is an app store for Macs
Those are great, thanks :)
At Google we use tcmalloc which is now open sourced.

A paper about it:

http://goog-perftools.sourceforge.net/doc/tcmalloc.html

The code:

http://code.google.com/p/google-perftools/
Ctrl-v is intentional. I want to keep it "natural" as long as possible, although I'm sure someone will start crafting spammy POSTs soon enough.
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Nokia 2720 Fold is also an affordable low-ender that packs the same punch in a flip phone form factor. The handset has 3G support and has a host of other business applications to go with it, including email support, calendar, and filesharing capabilities.
Well, I downmodded that comment because I took it as the author saying he'd deliberately left out information so as to support the conclusion he wanted to reach. Which is both dishonest and at odds with the stated goal of an "in-depth" look at the languages.
Same on webkit nightly. Needs more backspace!
That might be closer to the truth than you think - Facebook being the exception, as it's actually pulling in decent revenues at the moment.

Imagine if every business was operated on the same principles as these magic-beans business model start-ups.....
Apple vs. Google: Tech's Newest Rivalry?
Feynman solved the Ego Dilemma. It's somewhere in his letters which got published recently, and goes along the lines of "I'm stupid, but it's okay, the process is gonna be fun!" Also "I feel like a monkey trying to get that banana." which might be more familiar.
Like it a lot! Its fun how it is, more features might take away the appeal.
He definitely broke a law. But to send him to jail for doing this is just ridiculous. He should be penalized financially for this and thatz it.

If he broke a law (DMCA), and the law says he goes to jail, then he "should" go to jail.

I think the DMCA is deeply flawed to start with - IMO, what he did "shouldn't" be penalized at all.
All of us have. You need to log-in to Weebly to see it (where we show it very prominently). Posterous has it on their home page.

Fire up IE6 in a virtual machine and check it out :)
Adding another processor to my computer is quick and easy. Rewriting an application in another language is slow and hard.
Book Review: "Mathematicians: An Outer View of the Inner World"
This is why I don't hang with drunks. :)
Tried it, didn't work. I do have a crappy phone (though the digital recorder is quite good).
Europe Says It Leads U.S. in Broadband
While that's true, it's beside the point. All the public schools I've been to do not have an `IT Department', the computers there were just installed in a fire-and-forget manner. Often the school district has some people who are supposed to be in charge of it, but they don't come around very often, and honestly don't have the time, money, or manpower to set up something sane.
Really not trying to be snarky here, but I don't think too many grandmothers are using weebly or reading reddit.
That is a really clever idea, I like it.
He neglected to mention Python's lack of anonymous functions. (and no, lambda doesn't count given its restrictions).
Tips on writing C macros
I dunno, Google seems to have beaten them to the punch and no matter their culture, I'd still call them a traditionally hierarchically structured organization
What happens if you only send 1/3 of the conversions to google?

Do you have to pay a higher conversion price then?
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. :)

--Gehm's Corollary to Clarke's Third Law (smiley added)
Writing tests is only good if people actually run them.

The default configuration for RubyGems doesn't run unit tests. Therefore unit tests provide a sophisticated check for, "Works on my machine" but isn't so helpful for getting good bug reports about what doesn't work on other people's machines. By contrast the default configuration for Perl's CPAN runs unit tests before you install anything, and this has been the default for Perl modules since the last millennium. (Actually unit testing has been part of Perl culture since 1987! Yes, the "make, make test, make install" idiom was in the first release of the Perl core. This was over a decade before Kent Beck began popularizing the idea for a broader audience.)

And it doesn't end there. For instance the Ruby world has no real equivalent to CPAN Testers. That's a distributed group of people who run all of the unit tests on all of the CPAN modules on different platforms and make publicly available reports of success/fail. That project runs nearly a half-million test suites per month. Which makes it possible to do things like dependency analysis on CPAN modules to track down who is causing what other modules problems. See http://ali.as/top100/.

In short I'm glad that you're doing unit testing and like the tools that Ruby offers for it. However if you're open to cross-pollination, there ARE things you can learn about unit testing from other language communities. Some of them might be great additions to Ruby.
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Yeah now i'm curious.
Yea, 'effectively' doesn't mean that the 'technological measure' has to do it's job effectively, but that the results of it 'in effect' controls access.

ROT-26 is a poor example. It does nothing to 'control access' to your text. Using ROT-13 would be a better example since it's so stupidly simplistic that a moron could crack it.
Hey, Suid Africa is nie so sleg :)

You cannot really count South Africa with the rest of Africa.