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fine, can you point me the cases when someone die due to lead poisoning from eating plants alone?

my point is that the amount of Pb is minimal in plant, esp if you wash&clean it. you probably will get more Pb from eating pesticides, inhaling gasoline or licking the paints

the more reading you do, the more you will be asking questions. some of conclusions i had in past years are now broken. i keep learning stuff -- so really, i don't have absolute knowledge about anything ... but it's okay
A couple hundred people very nearly did not get a "long run" due to his antics.
I'm glad you said it because to be honest I was thinking the same thing and was worried about getting flamed. But I'm with you.

After reading this my first thought was "Has the NY Times come to the point where their space is worth so little that they'll just let Cringley ramble on for a couple pages?" There's virtually no real insight here. Just a bunch of random observations from a guy whose been out of the loop for more than a decade.
Reminded me Lawnchair Larry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Walters). "A man can't just sit around."
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Thank you for that link. I have been living life with a rather short sighted perspective of late due to dayjob+startup leaving me no time to breathe. I plan to change that in the near future and a bike is part of that plan :) These bags should be helpful!
Pfft, Michael Chrichton was a hack that liked to write adventure books in a shiny techno jacket. Which is to say that it's more than possible to make a compelling film based on plausible science, but it's not going to be an adventure story.
He clearly did not think about the consequences of his actions.

He's 14 years old. His brains might have developed enough to outsmart really horrible engineering, but no psychologist would argue most 14 year olds have fully developed understanding of consequences (much less, empathy) at that age. The problem is not with the boy.

Transport command and control systems are commonly designed by engineers with little exposure or knowledge about security using commodity electronics and a little native wit

This is the real problem. Whoever approves this kind of engineering into practice is directly responsible for whatever damage was done.

The youth, described by his teachers as an electronics buff and exemplary student, faces charges at a special juvenile court of endangering public safety

I don't think he realized he was endangering public safety, and certainly can't comprehend what that means in a way adults do.
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I think that the principle of Adverse Possession applies ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adverse_possession ). If USG is not the legitimate title holder of middle-North America, who is?
Quite frankly, the only software of Microsoft's that I've ever been impressed with is their Office Suite, and even that has gone down hill in the last few years. What they really need to do is stick to the basics. They need to stop wasting resources in fields they are obviously not good at. They /had/ a strong Office platform, they should improve on that. (and by improve, I don't mean "add more features"). If they want to succeed in the OS market, they have to find a niche. Its hard to compete with free. Apple does it by having excellent design and customer service. Apple sells the experience. What does Microsoft sell? Software that companies are too entrenched in. That's no market at all, at least not for long. Now if Window's could claim to be truly secure, and truly quick, and truly light on resources, I might actually use it. In the meantime, free satisfies all my needs.
"Various members of the mustard family are used for phytorememdiation. People eat many members of the mustard family."

it's akin to say "water is used to clean dirt. People drink water"

for every hypothesis, there will always be special case(s) to refute it.

thx for your concern, but really, i'm more interested in what you say about the topic: what should we eat? where can we get the polutant-free food?
"They probably decided to compete on a numeric basis "
Really?

I would think if you go freemium, you at least have to offer a compelling "free". 1 GB seems useful, 250MB seems useless.

Interesting how that stuff goes, and also good to have a nice, handy list of all the "when not to"s.
[N]o psychologist would argue most 14 year olds have fully developed understanding of consequences (much less, empathy) at that age.

The problem is not with the boy.

What. The. Heck.

How old do you have to be to understand "If a train derails, people die. People dying is a bad thing. Trains are big and complicated and are operated by professionals or at least people trained to use them, like, you know, cars." ?!?!

For several thousand years of human history we expected 14 year olds to go off to war, die gallantly, and come back and raise children if they survived. They proved up to the challenge. Now they're infantilized to the point where they cannot be reliably expected to show empathy for people who die as a result of their actions.

What. The. Heck. Words fail me.

[Edit: Gah, the more I think about this the more livid I get. GAAAAAAAAAH. I used to be a teacher and my child developmental psychology is a little rusty, but I also used to be a Boy Scout and can remember what we were doing when we were eight. It included practicing for emergencies such as What To Do If Someone Falls In The River. Answer: don't enter the river, because they are panicking and will drown you, instead, throw them a rope or flotation device. We did not have to explain to eight year olds that people drowning in the river is a bad thing or that the predictable consequence of pushing someone off a bridge into a river is that they will die, this is a bad thing, accordingly don't push someone off a bridge into the river even if you think he will look really funny falling into it.]
I'm just sad that it's been 40 years and we have to virtually recreate something that we should now be more than capable of doing.
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Hm, a lot of opinions here, ranging in insight. This one was the most perceptive, in my opinion:

It’s not as if these companies are gearing up to produce automobiles. The engineering teams for any of these products are, at most, 20 to 30 people — immaterial for Microsoft, which has 90,000 or so employees, and Google, which has 20,000. Nor are all of Google’s products even guaranteed to ship, being as they are in that semi-solid technical state called beta test and subject to cancellation on a whim.
The magic of expected future capital gains.
Agree. It reminds us how our public transport systems are vulnerable to hacking. Think about 9-11.
Wait, Azure's not even live yet, I don't think. And they (like Google) are avoiding the issue with spinning up instances that you have with Amazon's cloud services.
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And don't forget Apple, which with the iPod and iPhone has shown an ability to revolutionize markets other companies saw as mature.

Did people really think MP3 players and phones were anywhere near "mature" before Apple's products? I remember getting my girlfriend a pre-iPod MP3 player back around 2002... she never figured out how to put her music on there, and ended up getting an iPod as soon as she started buying music via iTunes.
In Mythryl unit becomes Void. The value syntax is unchanged: ()

No! This is a regression into darkness! Unit should stay unit!

According to type theorists: Unit is the data type inhabited with exactly one value (the zero-tuple). That's why it's called "unit". Void is the data type not inhabited with any values. Therefore, a function that typechecks to return type Void never terminates, because there is no value it could return. (The use of "void" in mainstream programming languages corresponds to "unit" in academic settings).

Also, if our notion of "function" is an expression with exactly one argument and one return value (like in lambda calculus), then tuples come in handy as function arguments. Especially the zero-tuple, for functions with side effects that need no input data. Like...

exit ()

And that syntax is quite familiar. I understand Mythryl still uses this syntax... but don't conflate void and unit.
If they weren't so fucking expensive, or if Apple _openly_ allowed you to install it on whatever the hell you wanted to, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
A lot of HN readers appear to place the blame on the system engineers rather than the kid. Some go so far as to say that the kid did a good thing in teaching the engineers a lesson. The implicit principle seems to be that unwanted intrusions are acceptable--even applaudable--actions in the face of systems unsecured against them.

I would ask of you whether you would apply this principle in other systems. Shall we call it a "good lesson" if the kid went around shooting people in the train, as a lesson that the trains need to be bulletproofed?

Folks, the criminal law exists to punish certain undesirable actions, so that the general public can save itself the cost of self-protection. I don't walk around wearing a bulletproof vest all the time, because I believe that the law and its enforcement will sufficiently deter others from deciding to intrude upon my body with a bullet.

So should it be with technological intrusions as well as physical. Certainly it is feasible to build secure systems. So is it feasible for me to wear a bulletproof vest all the time. But secure systems, like bulletproof vests, are costly things--they require hiring good engineers, spending time to evaluate security risks, testing systems for robustness, and so on. And if these costs are sufficiently high, then it would be economically inefficient to impose them on systems engineers by allowing hacking like this to go unpunished.

I'm not saying that anyone should be lax in building secure systems. I am, however, saying that intrusive behavior like this kid's should not be applauded. It should be recognized for what it is: a societally detrimental act, for which he should be held accountable as any other societally detrimental act is held under the law.
The problem with this statement is that Cringely has no way of knowing this and the facts publicly available contradict his account.

Just to give one example look at Steve Ballmer and Bing. Unless he's flat out lying he's going to spend 5% to 10% of Microsoft's operating income on Bing (http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/171648.asp). That's not exactly immaterial as Cringely claims.
Degrades well in 3.0.192.0 for me, but doesn't actually do the 3d...

Does not degrade well in FF3.5, as all of the pictures end up stacked on top of one another.
Not to miss the point of your message, but screensavers can be programmed in any language. I made one in .NET. The only constraint is the program needs to accept some command line parameters.

But I agree, it should be an abstract class/interface.
Ahh ok, thanks for clearing that up. I remembered after my last post that my professor showed me a free Standford web class on developing for iPhone, and they were giving real, in-person students iPhones to test their apps on. Still, they shouldn't limit this, nobody would overtake the appstore, they just can't stand even the smallest percentage getting around them. Makes me sick. The iPhone could be such a better device, but Apple keeps cutting apps for the use of 'undocumented APIs'. A few apps made the camera do things that Apple never imagined being possible, and they get cut for the above reason. I just wish they would open up more, broaden their horizon a bit. They're such control freaks.
IANAL, however-

The age of reason- The age at which a child is considered capable of acting responsibly.

Under Common Law, seven was the age of reason. Children under the age of seven were conclusively presumed incapable of committing a crime because they did not possess the reasoning ability to understand that their conduct violated the standards of acceptable community behavior. Those between the ages of seven and fourteen were presumed incapable of committing a crime, but this presumption could be overcome by evidence, such as the child having possession of the gun immediately after the shooting. The rebuttable presumption for this age group was based on the assumption that, as the child grew older, he or she learned to differentiate between right and wrong. A child over the age of fourteen was considered to be fully responsible for his or her actions. Many states have modified the age of criminal responsibility by statute.

All states have enacted legislation creating juvenile courts to handle the adjudication of young persons, usually under eighteen, for criminal conduct rather than have them face criminal prosecution as an adult. However, a child of thirteen who commits a violent crime may be tried as an adult in many jurisdictions.

-- West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved. (from http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Age+of+Reason)

Now, it'll be easy enough for anyone to argue that the teen is responsible given the typical age of reason argument. Defence might argue that he has social development issues and therefore is emotionally younger. Prosecution may argue that given he researched, developed and then executed his 'attack', the level of premeditation and appropriate amount of time taken to complete would show presumptive responsibility.

In other words, dude. wth?

Yes, the engineers built a cheap system however many years ago (i'd say decades). They didn't have any idea of what they needed to do for security. And for what it's worth, it'd be pretty easy to hack SF's Muni - there are plenty of spots where all you need is a welding torch and a crow bar to cause damage and risk lives.

But the reality is, the kid did something wrong and will find it pretty hard to argue that he's not responsible. Hopefully however, the judge will have the foresight to set a sunset clause on his sentence which will expunge it from his record when he turns into an adult -- or the hope of him ever getting a visa to come and hack out here will be pretty slim. :)
How has the Office Suite gone downhill in the last few years?

Office 2007 was a major innovation from my point of view. The company threw out an established, yet underperforming UI, taking a huge risk. But it's payed off in greater usability and learnability. The Ribbon user interface (imho) blows away other office suite interfaces.
so i'm going to suggest that in cities, alot of traffic and transit systems are just gsm boxes that send/receive commands. I've seen a traffic box opened up and asked the engineer how it all worked. He pointed to the (essentially) cell phone type device that sent stuff back to HQ.

I don't imagine that'd be hard to hack.

Even easier (given his hacking of a remote control) is if these points were controlled by RF signals sent by the train as they approached. "hey, it's me, open up so i can pass" type signals. This would be more shocking because it implies a level of automation that i'm not sure many would be comfortable with in such a system.
Right, exactly my point. Luckily they DID get a "long run" --which might not be the case next time.
I think that the idea was basically shelved, but theres a "demo" store somewhere on the Microsoft campus...
@matt:

what's their per unit cost vs their income of the consoles?

i thought they were mostly loss leaders. so how have the games been selling?
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> I swear, "not Hacker News" seems to be the overriding meme here on HN, and it's getting old.

If people would post less of this sort of thing, then you wouldn't see it. Are you really interested in hacker / startup articles or do you just want to see "interesting" things? There are good subreddits for the latter.

See: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=700644
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\leq and \pi work consistently now, just trained it to do \geq, and also did \otimes and \circledast. Be careful what you say about it, it looks like a fast learner ;)
You should ask the 12 Polish people injured in the collision.
How old do you have to be to understand "If a train derails, people die.

The fact is that even many adults tend to make bad judgment calls. The same goes for 14 year olds and they sometimes consistently make calls that seem ridiculous to older people. That it seems ridiculous to you doesn't make it ridiculous to some 14 year olds.

Your examples both fail to take into account that say 10% of youngsters may not act like you would expect them to. Many did not survive wars; many would still dive into the river in an emergency. You can repeat how stupid something is until you throat goes soar: that doesn't mean the person under discussion was capable of understanding that.

I think you should read up on your developmental psychology: the ethical calls of 8 or 14 year olds tend to be pretty different from those of adults. Especially the regular outliers are fascinating.

A kid with a knack for electrical engineering... hmmm, might he just be a little behind in his understanding of social phenomena? Of the value we adhere to other people's wellbeing?

I still have the capacity to reason about things without any concern for the people involved. People ask: how can you even consider that, given the consequences to the people involved. The seem paralized to even consider some options, as they immediately think it would be bad for humans. My answer: like any other factor, you can perfectly exclude 'people' for simplicity, to take that factor into account later. Sometimes that make the previous exercize a waste; sometimes it brings a valuable perspective, because the cost to humans turns out to be avoidable in some way. Think 'nuclear energy' in the 80's. Many people were incapable of any sound reasoning about that, because of perceived costs to human lives.

Perhaps only one person should have said to this boy "ehmm, do you realize how dangerous this is? What if your mother was in that tram? She might get hurt. You may only want to change the way a tram goes, but they can't just change the next interchange to fix that, if their system is solid enough to notice the change at all." With some people, you really need to drive a point home, before they understand.
Thanks for the thorough feedback and correction for repeat. I do plan to make a simplified version eventually but for now I'm still adding features and trying to document the most recent ones.

For now there's video tutorials there that guide through the basics of using the ear trainer and further instructions on the help page. There's a few things that are counter intuitive but are far more efficient that way. For example when you click the wrong answer the correct associated song starts playing. Clicking star wars and having it play here comes the bride might seem confusing but it's necessary for improving the song associating with the correct interval. Also automatically playing a new interval when you're correct is confusing at first but the more clicks saved the more efficient training can be.

I can't guarantee anything if they don't watch the tutorial or read the help page for now. Making it beginner foolproof would be great but not if older users have to make 5 - 10 clicks when starting up to get it back to the most efficient settings. I tried a version with elements hidden but in the end it's better just make another version and call the current one the 'advanced version'. The song buttons are packed because they're dynamic in length. The songs can be named anything in the song editor. Also if you select all chords or scales in the first dropdown it already overflows the expected area. There can be a lot of answer choices.

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> no psychologist would argue most 14 year olds have fully developed understanding of consequences (much less, empathy) at that age.

Robert Epstein is a psychologist who argues that teens are/can be as competent as adults:

"Dumas and I worked out what makes an adult an adult. We came up with 14 areas of competency—such as interpersonal skills, handling responsibility, leadership—and administered tests to adults and teens in several cities around the country. We found that teens were as competent or nearly as competent as adults in all 14 areas. But when adults estimate how teens will score, their estimates are dramatically below what the teens actually score.

...

Studies show that we reach the highest levels of moral reasoning while we're still in our teens. Those capabilities parallel higher-order cognitive reasoning abilities, which peak fairly early. Across the board, teens are far more capable than we think they are."

From http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200703/trashing-teen...
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"On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups."
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What blatant FUD. If "cloud computing is a security nightmare", what do you call the current industry alternative - carrying sensitive data on unencrypted laptops and USB sticks?
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That is because computer programming is (still) not a particularly prestigious job, it still suffers from negative stereotypes, nerd, geek, etc. Right now, we're under their radar.

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