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>No, there's no middle ground. Killing is killing.

That's a tautology. It doesn't tell us anything.

The real question is, what makes EVERY killing wrong?

Are you wrong for taking antibiotics? If not, why not? After all "killing is killing".

Are you a murderer for killing a mosquito? Why not? Since, you know, "killing is killing".

Should a lion be punished for eating an antelope? Why not? After all, "killing is killing".

Should a man that caught 10 fish be put to prison for life, just the same as a man that killed 10 people? If not, why, since "killing is killing"?

Perhaps you were wrong, and now you see that not all killing is equal?
Flyover states have such a low population density that this solution works, however the demand throughout the country is so staggeringly high that it's not at all a viable solution for everyone. That's why the larger meat industries exist, they're the only ones capable of handling the volume necessary.

That means that even less of the country is ignorant about the source of their meat than you would think, but not everyone is in a position to be able to do something about it. Many of us don't have the options available to you, and if we did and we all chose the most ethically sourced options available, the prices would either be astronomically high or the previously ethical source companies would have to resort to less ethical measures to be able to keep up with demand.
> The animal as people logic doesn't hold up.

Likewise with slavery and Human Rights. Human's have been enslaving people for eons, why stop now? Power dynamics are inevitable. Who cares if you are enslaved, or eaten for that matter? The logic simply doesn't hold up.
You'd be amazed what people make Excel do with VBA (hint: it doesn't always have much to do with spreadsheets).
Mostly it was learning about variables, plotting, some polynomials later. In the end the majority of it was just memorization without a reason for using it.
I don't really remember most of the calc stuff I had to learn but I can at least remember why it's useful but after 3 years I barely recall how to get a derivative and would have to look up integrals.

Personally whenever someone can give me a percentage quickly (sometimes at all!) I am impressed. I tend to feel math education is lacking (in America/general). I especially like articles that surface on HN with math and even more when they have illustrations/examples [1]. It's amazing how many times I had read about it before it just clicked.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6683866
Sure, if taste is not at all a factor. But since we're human beings, it is a factor. It's "easy" unless you are someone who is repulsed completely by the taste of most vegetables. There's nothing "easy" about choking down food that tastes like poison to me. I wish I could flip a switch in my brain and suddenly love vegetables, for more reasons than just potential animal cruelty. But I can't. So it will always be "hard" for me to not eat meat.
Are there any sites that come to mind that are using Python in the valley? I would love to check them out!

I am from New York and I really don't hear people talk about Python much. For the short amount of time I've been using Python it has made me want to ditch PHP.
Surprised this didn't get any comments. It's a good reason to leave (or not move to) the US, or increasingly, the UK.
For context: the grandparent comment by avree said "this isn't what it should look like", talking about testing designs and user needs.

I'm going to keep this thread though, because nitpicks on HN annoy me.
I'd much rather have an Ubuntu PPA to deploy this over an existing server with chef/puppet than having to deploy this over virtualization.
When I first heard about this patent, the first thing I thought of was UMSDOS -- but this seems to be something else with the Minix filesystem.
>Not sure if your argument holds. We're essentially food too, so it'd be okay to kill and eat you.

Only we have laws that prevent you for doing so, and a culture that says it's bad. Otherwise, have a go at it.

Canibals, which lack such laws and culture are totally fine with eating other people.
> we think an insect lacks the same capacity for experiencing pain

Who thinks that? Is it true or you'd just like to think it that way?

It isn't even relevant. We're talking about meat here. Animals made of meat have the same capacity for experiencing pain and self-awareness. Animals want to live and try avoid death. Even mosquitoes.
Maybe this helps?

https://www.datanitro.com/product.html
To soothe you I could say that it's advances in technology that will lead us to eating meat without killing animals. Currently lab-grown meat is ridiculously expensive, but so was everything new, before it got to industrial scale.

When factory-grown meat takes over the shelves of meat departments, cow and chicken population of the world will dwindle significantly. Only milk cows and egg-laying hens will remain, along with a small population grown specifically for slaughter, for those perverts that prefer natural, pasture-grown certified organic meat.

Finally humans' beloved pets, cats and dogs, will stop being animal racists and stop feeding on the suffering of other, less fortunate animals.

The only remaining area of unethical killing will be the pesky wild nature, where merciless foxes eat rabbits, and brutal trouts eat lesser fish, which eats small defenseless crustaceans, which.., etc. But I'm sure that progressive humankind will find a way to sort this out eventually, too.

Irony aside, have you heard about the "first noble truth" of Buddhism? Very short and rather enlightening; google it.
More surprised to see someone using Sketch. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just didn't expect it when I clicked the link.

Kind of curious what people are using these days for design.

I originally came from the Photoshop world, and would do all my mocks there initially, but over the last 3 years (mainly since CSS3) I've basically just built my designs in code and made them working prototypes first. I'm no engineer, but I can get a static site running / deployed through cactus / jekyll or whatever and add bits of jquery to get any inactivity done. I will admit it's been harder to keep up with frontends moving to ember / angular and needing more JS skills to fully build out my designs.

Again, not a criticism. Was cool to see a different approach, just curious what most designers are using these days. Thanks for sharing.
I think the latter is exactly what they're saying. It's not weird. What question is being begged?
This is a common way that a totalitarian state can be implemented on top of an apparent democratic republic: pass so many laws (and contradictory / complex laws) that anyone can be found guilty of something, then enforce the law selectively.
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Right, but to ignore that as people have more purchasing power they tend to buy more meats is to ignore a large part of the issue. It's really beside the point. People want meat and they want it cheaply. If you could steer (no pun) them away from meats, that'd help a lot, but in the mean time, there is a demand. Given the large demand, the only way to satisfy it is the FIC.

If the world consisted of 100 million people, and everyone one wanted to eat half a kilo of meat per day, there would be little problem satisfying that need without a FIC.
Just mount the VM's volume. Copy everything over. DIff it against a fresh ubuntu install, and Viola! Instant DPKG!
Even if it was, like Linux's weird RNG, the security distinction is not particularly meaningful. Developers should generally use urandom.
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Go for Python, here is why:
PHP is a nice enough language that can do almost every webapp task, however, you will type syntax far more than logic and will shoot yourself in the foot more often then not.
Python is a clear and concise language compared to PHP, libraries and modules are often of a higher quality than PHP and can often be understood if you choose to go and look at their code.
For developers with PHP experience, PHP is ofcourse easier, I have experience with both languages and have a clear prefference for python due to it's readability.

If you just want to do a small webapp, Flask is awesome, for a larger more complete framework you should go with Django.
Why share it with 3rd parties? Because that's the typical method of creating an account and managing it in case you forget your password and they will typically claim that they aren't going to share it with anyone and the cost of finding an anonymous mail that they will accept is quite a bit of time. (I typically do not use my email to sign up for anything.)

Why not public? I guess it's fine if everyone knows it assuming a perfect spam filter (they aren't perfect btw) but I don't want it to be public knowledge what websites I use and what I say on those sites. Non-sinster example; I could be publicly discussing a sexual encounter and just not want the whole world to know (non-psuedonymously) that I did that.
I wouldn't say that Doom is linear in the same way that many modern shooters seem to be linear. The labyrinth levels aspect is something that I miss.
For some animals, killing is necessary for survival. For humans, it is optional. Arguably recreational.
We do a lot of photo shoots for our furniture products. The Photoshop team usually will mirror one side of the sofa with other to make the pictures look symmetrical and nicer. I won't be surprised if the pictures are photoshopped to make them symmetrical to give them a less messy look.
I never understood so called Starbucks Squatters. The local public library is a free resource that is specifically set up for work and study. I spent many hours there when I was a student, well at the school library. It allowed me to focus on my work more. Also how can Starbucks be surprised at this behavior, I think they practically encouraged it by putting in the wifi.
Three questions for you:

1. are carnivorous animals immoral?

2. where do you draw the line in your definition of racism/'speciesism' - homo sapiens -vs- non-homo-sapiens, mammals -vs- non-mammals, mammals/birds/fish/etc. -vs- metazoa/insects/amoeboids/plants/etc./etc./etc.?

3. if suffering of animals as a result of the meat industry is morally wrong, what are your thoughts on suffering of animals caused by non-meat food industries? If grain/crop agriculture killed more animals than the livestock industry what would you do? Stop eating?
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I have a few questions in regard to your powerful and enlightening experience:

* Will you only cook what you kill?

* If not, will this experience change the type of meat you purchase? (e.g., free range only)

* Have you or will you now cook offal?
Someone needs to write a post on what happens to your brand after you astroturf HN.
Agreed, you don't usually see Sketch. I'll ask Guillermo to comment.

Another tool I've seen that is surprising is Keynote. You can do a lot with simple tools.
> Sheriff Bud York suggested, according to the Post-Star, the local newspaper, that “in an era of terrorist attacks on U.S. soil and mass killings in schools, police agencies need to be ready for whatever comes their way...

And in reality, they're just preparing for social unrest that seem more likely by the day.
On the contrary I was suggesting we should take baby steps.
I understand his point about the ambient noise. I think more people need to hear about http://coffitivity.com/ . I use it from time to time when coding and I think its helpful.
When I read the book I found myself looking up various locations mentioned in the book and ended up making this list: http://romej.com/2012/06/places-of-doom-where-id-built-games
Yes, I believe some text near the button telling us we're about to go to Google Hangouts would be a good thing.
Good luck to anyone who has a linear algebra exam coming up!

I also have a similar short tutorial for Newtonian mechanics here: http://cnd.mcgill.ca/~ivan/miniref/mech_in_7_pages.pdf
Why do you guys [I assume Bloomberg] use POWERS or SPARC?
To add to your note: and does not work with (not so) old browsers.
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Then make it times 2. Or add 5.
Is this "prior art", or evidence that the idea is "obvious" or "trivial"?
I've been using NFC for years now, and I've never once had a charge or fee for the privilege.
Is this REALLY what we need to be worrying about?
I've never really seen any Java project for high performance stuff outperform a C/C++ based on.

Visualization tools, video processing tools, multimedia tools, games, etc -- all Java examples I've seen come worse off that the C/C++ equivalents.

It's true that in large scale C you often trae performance for architectural simplicity.

But in a higher level you trade performance for everything, even the most basic operation has some added complexity layer. And you don't even have as much say as where you'd trade performance for architectural simplicity in, as you do in C/C++, since some parts you just can't do without.
Why hide the price? I realize that landing on a blog post like this first and going from there to the signup process may not be the primary flow they designed to sign up new customers, but I was a bit irked at how many clicks/page loads/scroll to the bottom I had to go through to find the price. Why not put the price right on the account registration page rather than the coy "after your trial you will need to provide billing information to continue"
sources close to Google that cannot be named confirm that e.g. Samsung or HTC paid nothing to Microsoft. or rather got all license fees back in terms of Windows Phone marketing kickbacks
Using antibiotics is a defensive reaction against an attack. It's not killing if you're legitimately defending yourself (even law considers this situation).

Indeed, you're a murderer for killing a mosquito without a reason.

About the lion/fishing analogies, bringing law here doesn't make sense. Law is an artificial system. Punishment is essentially arbitrary. Both the lion and the fisher are essentially murderers anyway, regardless of their punishment.

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After some downvotes I think I have to say this again: I don't hold these views and acknowledge it's a muddy topic, but you can't ignore these facts! These are legitimate points. I'm just playing devil's advocate here.

My personal opinion is: the lion would eat you. The mosquito would eat you (if it could). That's just how nature works.

But then again, killing another person is just how nature works too, right? I eat meat and will eat meat forever, though I can't help but feel like such an hypocrite for doing so while condemning murdering people.

Not killing people is just an implicit agreement. I won't kill you if you don't kill me. It's not "morally good" or "morally bad", not killing other people is just convenient! The punishment for murder is just the punishment for breaking this agreement.
Well, I didn't think that but I was very confused about what the article could be about.
Does anyone know whether Curiosity has the tools/systems to detect whether life exists on Mars now?
We have canines for a reason; meat is part of our evolutionary heritage.

I'm sure that's why horses have canines, as well, but they don't eat much meat!

Of course I agree with the overall point; in fact I shot a delicious young deer a few weeks ago. I sometimes wonder whether the meat-is-murder trolls aren't really just cannibals hoping to mainstream their own predilections.
I totally agree with you on every point, except for the one about heralding veganism being ridiculous. I don't think it's ridiculous at all, especially when I look around at the average morbidly obese guy here in Northern NJ, and then go to Thanksgiving out in Michigan with my wife's family and the meat eaters are in the minority. Everyone at Thanksgiving looks amazing and healthy. I think the greater and more meaningful challenge would just be to get more people to think about what they're eating at all, regardless of what it is. I think reduced meat consumption would happen automatically if people actually mentally connected the animals in this story to the burger they're putting in their mouth. I think veganism is the logical conclusion to becoming truly aware of what you're eating, personally.
I'd say that psDooM is more rewarding, though less pratical, than ps/kill.
1) If the GPL wanted "covered work" to mean "derivative work" they would have chosen that language (the GPL is not jurisdiction specific, so they would not have included a cite to any particular statute). They chose not to, and basic rules of legal construction hold that this choice can be interpreted against that meaning.

2) You are misinterpreting the legal meaning of "based upon" which is what my post discussed.

A song in a movie does not make the movie a derivative work; it simply means the movie is distributing the song. The movie becomes a derivative work if, and only if, the movie is based upon the song, i.e., if some plot or character or some other aspect of the movie draws elements from the song. (For example, any random episode of Glee.) If the song could be replaced with another song without changing the movie, then no part of the movie is based upon the song, and the movie is not a derivative work.
Libraries and bars are two great alternatives, fwiw.
I think the article has some good points, but he should spend more time discussing what circumstances you can block when waiting for a result, and how to balance too much blocking against too many asynchronous states.

I think his focus on “global mutable state” is a bit of a red herring. It makes no difference whether the mutable state is global (protected by a lock) or owned by a single thread. You can refactor all your synchronized {...} blocks and replace them with executor.execute(futuretask); futuretask.get();, where executor is a single-threaded event loop and futuretask.get() blocks for the operation to complete. This refactoring would make a single thread the owner of the state, but there would be exactly the same number of deadlocks. Conceptually, you can think of your critical sections as a separate thread on which you invoke methods and then block until completion.

After refactoring to use Executor and BlockingQueue, one still has to make sure there are no cycles in which threads are allowed to block waiting for which other threads.
Pretty big leap from root to a custom kernel. But on my Nexus 7 with root and stickmount, the stock kernel does support mounting FAT drives. So support is baked in there.
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If it works for you, fine. But I object to you calling people who eat what they do not kill hypocrites. If someone takes part in a protest against meat products because of animal suffering, and then eats meat or wears leather, they are hypocrites. But if they cannot bring themselves to kill the animal themselves but still eat meat, they are not hypocrites. If they were, people who are queasy when they see blood, but would want a surgeon to care for them or their friends when they are in an accident, would be will-not-doctor-but-will-be-doctored hypocrites.

I think the main problem here is that when some people have an experience they find illuminating, their reaction is to look down on other people who do not share the newly acquired viewpoint.
If you look at about:memory, it can give you information about where the memory is going. If you file a bug on bugzilla with the [MemShrink] whiteboard, we can look into it and try to figure out what is happening.
What do we know about these mega-meat companies?
1) they do all this crap for the money
2) they will do whatever it takes to protect that cash flow

If you believe those statements, it stands to reason, the only thing these companies will ever respond to is competition. I think PETA, HSUS, and the over activists need to stop focusing on trying to get these companies to do the right thing because they never will when profit is their motivator.

We also know the demand for meat is going to remain high in perpetuity. What the activists need to focus on is a model which can compete and is humane enough for their standards. Yes, the activists need to turn into farmers or at least partner with farmers willing and able to scale up to the size of these meat companies. They need to put them out of business; or make consumers not want to do business with them, by giving consumers another option (trying to expose them, and shame consumers for eating meat will never scale).

So, start a farm. Innovate on every process so that it's humane and cost effective. Focus on scale, without scale you can never compete or put a meaningful dent in their market share. Maybe it is never as cheap as the other guys, but it's better - and you can sell that. It will be a slow difficult battle, but I think the activists are used to that. Over time, you can create a "PETA approved" meat stamp, market that to consumers, and much like the "organic" movement - a great deal of people will be willing to pay for what is better.
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I think you mean "concatenate" instead of "concentrate", right?
I've always wondered why there is no eBay for bitcoins. The problem with bitcoin is that the only way to get them is to buy them with USD. What if you could buy bitcoins with objects? Like you would do with USD on websites like eBay.

I even bought the address www.btcharbor.com but never had time to start the project.
I'm playing Eve online. And the spread sheets the community comes up are simply mind boggling. They access XML API endpoints directly from Excel, etc.
Many AUR packages just pull from the HEAD of some git repo or pull down X random tarball from a URL.

With something like Debian, you have layers of package maintainers in the middle to insulate against attacks, and specific, immutable bundles of data included in the packages themselves. Also, the entire Debian infrastructure (signing keys and all) being compromised, and such an incident going unnoticed, is a much less likely occurrence than the same for the hosting site some individual software author uses.

Sure, you can still add third-party repositories to Debian and install deb packages from outside the main sources. But when you do that, you're making a conscious decision to do so, on a package-by-package basis. Any package you pull from AUR could be vulnerable, unless you manually check the source of each and every one. When you install from the Debian repos, you can trust that a certain standard of quality and security is being upheld.
Try waiting until that actually happens before you get outraged over it. Getting yourself worked up over hypothetical situations that play out in your mind is not good for your health.