skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Ah, so I see I have given the impression that I believe anonymous forums shouldn't be allowed to exist (via some mechanism...not sure what, maybe the state?). That was not my intention; you aren't the only one to take this thread down that path. I lean anarchist...I don't want anyone forcing anybody to do anything, and I think anonymous forums are necessary.

But, I also think 4chan revels in its privilege, and many of its participants are pretentious enough to believe they are above gender and race and identity, when they're really just reproducing the same patterns white men have practiced at every point in history when someone asked to be treated equally. It doesn't mean they should be censored. But, I think people should feel empowered to call it out for what it is...but calling it out gets shouted down pretty quick on 4chan (I can hear the cries of "white knight" from here).
That possibility is where this section applies:

"Or if the QA is fine, what the hell is happening during the shipping? Are the devices overly fragile? If they are being damaged during shipping, could the same damage occur in the home?"
Are you seriously complaining that too many people are citing their sources?
Well it sure as hell is never going to change so long as your only solution is to declare you won't vote because both parties are the same.

You want to change the system? Learn how it works first and stop throwing the problem into the too hard basket.
Coming unprepared to 4chan and reading its take on anything (including 4chan itself) leads to the conclusion that it harms the world and its creators should be ashamed of the fact they haven't committed suicide yet.
Why does everybody think HN users and 4chan users are two separate groups of people? In order to write those things, someone has to spend some time on HN.
You know a company has jumped shark when employees start explanations for their behavior with a phrase like "Management's stated reasoning goes something like:"
Page not found anymore? Guess they got the heat and took it down.

Edit: that link above the image (ie http://blog.mirohristov.com/www.aranya13.com/aranya/) is what's broken..

And seriously... that music?
Why again are we concerned about what 4chan thinks?
Sometimes thought leaders need to light the way when issues are not apparent to the masses. I have been saying for a long time that having companies own our identities is a bad idea.
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/26/Mug_and_T...
As someone who lives outside of sv, it seems like they're not describing a site but a place. So while visits to HN can do worlds of good to my intellectual curiosity, this post is a nice reminder that I don't actually have to endure this disgusting mindset on a daily basis. Thankfully.

tldr; you people are awesomely sickening.

Oh yeah, and they forgot to add "How I quit my job and traveled the third world on just a 'few dollars a day'"
The answer is pretty simple: the Google+ deciders don't get social. They think very differently from their users and they refused to listen for past 2-3 years.
The problem is that a lot of people in Industry think they are hiring for analytical skill but they are really hiring for knowledge. Seriously, let us take questions in anything from graph theory to dynamic programming. All that proves is that you have studied these problems well enough to be able to spot them during the interview and then solve them. And you know what? You don't necessarily need abstract knowledge less analytical skills to be successful in most programming jobs so I guess they are okay with what they are doing.
I honestly wasn't trying to be condescending, and apologize if it came off that way. (I'll leave the original post unedited so it doesn't look like you're crazy or anything.)

That being said, Google employees, why is G+ more important than your users? is an incredibly loaded question and I think my tone might have stemmed from that.
This is a very accurate description

Of course, for the people that matter (especially advertisers) can see through it.

Some content producers are already moving away from YT, at the same time AdSense is the one that still pays the best.
>And, it is so often white males targeting women (and, worse, young girls).

since when?

since they make good headlines?

Most people who get ousted are narcissistic 16 year old's. They just arn't sympathetic to a news reel, and almost always the instigating factor for 4chan going to town on someone is narcissism. Adria and Anita being two fantastic examples of such.

My sympathies to Allie though. Definitely not a smart life choice posting pictures of yourself for 4chan's amusement, shame such a choice can be made before you're old enough to make it.
It's silly to force users to have separate accounts for Google services.

I don't understand how this wasn't the case before Google+. I've had my Google account for years and it always worked on all the Google services I've seen. I've never had to use a separate account for anything.
My favourites (apart from the already listed ones)

>How Redis+Memcached+Node.js+Go+MongoDB+MariaDB+postgres+Clojure helped my start-up scale (from 10 to 20 hits per day)

>Why Tesla makes your dick bigger and how you should be proud.

>PG: Why it's okay to be openly and unapologetically racist as long as you're good at Lisp.

>"Why choose git? Here's five reasons why it's different."

>Show HN: I used a javascript framework.

>"mongodb ruined my startup"

>"I Dislike MBAs" 32458 comments.

>How I quit my job and went into consulting.
Finally a reasonable response.
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"Why Go Is Better Than You And Everything You Own And Why It Always Will Be" - Seems to sum up a lot of HN posts recently.
Yeah. The only system with a separate login was ever YouTube, and I think that may have only apploed if your account was ancient anyway.
I believe that many internet flame wars are caused by inaccurate or imprecise statements. It is important to me to indicate the source and quality of information that I post.

What would you have written?
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What? Hasn't G+ always showed profile pics next to comments? I don't understand why that would suddenly become a problem just because it's now enabled on YT too. It only makes stalking easier in the sense that there's a greater volume of comments to stalk.
It appears obi-nine is ghost-blocked or whatever it's called, which is unfortunate because I have the same question.

Why wouldn't you, if you trust the merchant?
>> While I know a lot of people by their online handles, I also know their real name,

This can't possibly be true. I easily interact with 100+ people on various platforms. I don't know any of their names. I consider them "friends" in a way, but their real names are wholly irrelevant to me.

>> if you're talking to your friends via YouTube

No... You are having a discussion about the video. This is certainly not your friends.

You can argue this, but if everyone is friends talking to each other, why are there still so many people willing to blatantly troll people they obviously don't know?

I'm not sure what world you are painting, but this does not reflect any reality I am aware of.
Relevant: http://threepanelsoul.com/2013/09/30/on-local-color/
It was possibly - likely, even! - a botched use of classical rhetoric.
What a vile thing to say. Then again, this is 4chan, so I shouldn't be supri...oh nope. I switched back to the HN tab. This is praptak, pretending to be high and mighty on HN, proving himself wrong in the same breath.
What a stupendously BAD idea and a huge waste of resources. You seriously need to rethink this.

What you are going to end up with is "normal" people being monitored/recorded etc. and the privileged being able to opt-out. Much like what has already been done with information such as home addresses etc.

I'd much rather the money used for something useful like science.
> If you're talking to your friends via YouTube, why would you use yet another nickname?

Who honestly talks to their friends via Youtube? It's really not a social networking site. People use it to enjoy watching videos and occasionally make a comment.

Judging from the widespread user backlash on the G+ & Youtube linking for comments it seems people quite prefer using a pseudonym when making comments on Youtube. For often good reason.

Also, although it has been discussed before, anonymity itself doesn't affect the comment quality on Youtube. From all the sites I've visited over the years where comments play a large role it's my opinion that a site's pre-existing and maintained culture determines the quality, apart from any moderation.
For those who've attended this school or are otherwise just familiar enough to answer this question, what's the expected total cost of living over the course of the program? Is it common for students to find shared living arrangements to cut down on NYC rents?
From google's perspective, you (and other HNers) most likely belong to the tiny techie minority who would have blocked ads anyway. So you quitting the service wouldn't make much difference to their revenue stream.
The cap on the block size means it'll increase at a maximum per year, I think it's something like 60GB if every block is filled to the brim.
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Better photos experience, better media embedding, better commenting (until Facebook later copied G+), better search, simpler privacy control system, better notification drop down, better mobile app, etc

Asking to import and nag dialogues, I agree. They need to stop that.
What evidence is there that HN commenters are actually "thought leaders"? That sounds like just the sort of hubris the 4chan thread makes fun of.
Ask HN: What are some good alternatives to HN?
Lately it seems I go to HN look at the front page and decide "I don't want to read any of these". Where do other HN readers go for finding out about new and interesting technology or science?
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I've bought plenty of locked-down hardware. What manufacturers haven't yet capitalized upon is that I'll pay more for unlocked hardware.
Neither GPS nor GLONASS are just "military" systems in sense that they are also used commercially. And:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System

"GPS is owned and operated by the United States Government as a national resource."
Some believe that the rise in gluten sensitivity may be due to the hybridization of wheat. In general our entire approach to food has become heavily industrialized. Not that hybridization wasn't used in the past, but we are seeing a scale and pace of change in our food supply that is unprecedented.

For instance, I think that one thing we are not considering enough is the effect of GMOs in our food supply. Certain foods that we eat in abundance (either directly or in packaged foods), like soy, corn, canola, etc. are almost all GMO.

These are unnatural and have never existed in any prior civilization's diets. Further, when I look at the timelines you laid out, we are talking changes that occured over hundreds of years. While that is still a short period in terms of human history, the introduction of GMO is happening on an even shorter arc. In other words, we are making dramatic changes to our diet nearly overnight.

We know that GMOs have caused allergies in some. There is very definitely a response. And, given what we know about inflammation and its role in disease, it has to make you wonder whether these foreign substances are impacting more people than we think.

And, GMOs are just one aspect of dramatic, rapid changes in the modern food supply. We are not even considering processed foods, etc.

So, when I read an article like this one, I have to wonder if the elephant in the room is being ignored. That is, will we someday realize that we were so focused on getting our food groups in just the right proportion, when the truth is that it's all just slow poison?
And that adds value how?
Compared to Facebook, it's beautifully designed.
The point is that it makes stalking much more efficient and there's no way to protect oneself from it on YouTube without changing the profile pic. The current #1 submission on HN is from a woman slamming google for this problem [1]. On the YouTube side the poster of the current top comment on the Miley Cyrus video is getting hostile replies based on the profile pic being of a very young girl.

[1]https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z12gzxkxvpvautd3d23...
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Applied! Hoping to see what you guys think and even if I don't get selected some detailed feedback would be great!
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Flagged, just 4chan trolling.

https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/38087806#p38101668
You could even link your main Google account to your old-style YouTube account, and get the benefit of single sign-on, but still maintain your old YT identity separate from your Google one. So really I don't understand why Google thinks they're doing anyone a favor single-sign-on-wise: nothing has changed here.
Go big or go home. Make it the default <title> text for the whole domain.
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I've love to get an idea of this too. Hacker School seems pretty appealing but I'm not sure if I would be able to afford huge costs (I've read in some blog posts that the cost of living is pretty high, especially short term).
> would you want some nice flock of Russian drones flying all other the place?

Why not? Other countries aren't out to "get you". You have far more to fear from your own government than foreign nationals or governments.
Every Google acquisition with a pre-existing account system kept that system for a period of time (IIRC, typically years) after being acquired. AdSense, Blogger, and FeedBurner are examples.
I feel like reading Coke's recipe.
YouTube "Feather" Beta
don't think it's totally unreasonable to speculate that plus could become the 'new tab page' in chrome down the line, the way things are going
It was annoying on OS X too.
Thanks for the refresher.

If any book will make one a Christian, Paradise Lost is probably it ;-)
Yep. Creating YouTube-only accounts was discontinued over 5 years ago, and as of 2011 all such accounts must be merged into a Google account.
It's equally silly to force users who'd established and clearly indicated they wished to maintain separate accounts for separate services, to integrate these.

Doing so where the user had clearly indicated they didn't wish that to happen was even worse.

Forcing users to not be able to independently toggle whether or not services were enabled for an account is another. I neither want my pseudonymous G+ account ("Edward Morbius") nor my personal Gmail account(s) (unspecified) to have any association with YouTube. I simply cannot independently disable the latter, and my data leaks across the services.

I've consequently been experimenting with setting up hostfile blocks of various Google services. I'm in a weaning-off phase right now (I'm trying to unwind my Google presence rather than just nuke it entirely in one go), and I can assure you it's painful. A proxy front-end to YouTube would be helpful. I already have been making extensive use of youtube-dl largely because the UX sucks vastly less than running YouTube through a browser (and in some related side commentary I've seen references that other folks offering streaming vs. downloaded video saw 4x the downloads than streams, for, I suspect, similar reasons).

So, the fact is that Google outed me (fortunately, a pseudonymous profile), despite my clearly indicating repeatedly "no" (and documenting some of those "no's" in earlier G+ posts. I'd even brought this up on a post of Yonatan Zunger's, and, despite his really well-inentioned "Edward Morbius Hrm? If you want to keep the names separate, why not simply click on that option?" response (and I've really got no reasons to doubt his sincerity), 1) the option isn't presented, 2) the workflow I'd think I'd go through doesn't accomplish what I'd expect, and 3) I've reached the stage of a) having lost my trust in the company to respect my privacy wishes and settings in future and b) not wanting to continue jumping through hoops to fix what they broke in the first place.

https://plus.google.com/u/0/103389452828130864950/posts/XVFz...

I don't know what the hell's going on with Google's management team, but something's badly broken. And I do agree with you that they utterly fail to understand the social aspects of communities.
You're right to flag this. Could you do me a favor? I started the 4chan thread that's now on the front page of HN. I want to add a comment there, but I have a policy of not commenting on sites which require accounts. I made an account to post this, but the HN thread disabled comments from new users. 4chan stuff seriously shouldn't be posted here and will just lead to more trolling, racism/sexism, and a general degradation in quality and more work for moderators.

Hi HN. I actually started that thread on /g/. I think it's hilarious and somewhat sad that it got cross-posted here. Chan culture is a really weird thing, and (usually) it only makes sense in that context. The fact that people here seem interested seems to indicate a couple different things. The first being that there are a non-trivial number of 4chan users on HN, and that is amusing. The other thing it indicates, though, is that enough people here are amused by the parody of "startup speak" that they want to see jokes about it here. Stop that.

4chan is a total shithole. I go there to shitpost, troll, and generally let off some steam. I love/hate it, but these things should not bleed over into sites like HN. The fact that people are upvoting this and taking it at all seriously is an indication that this site is becoming more and more "redditized." It also may be an indication that the comment system here does not allow for enough free expression, thus people upvote stuff like 4chan threads which express feelings people have but can't necessarily say. Then again, maybe the comment system here is part of the reason why comments aren't full of "memes", lame jokes, and racist vitriol like most other sites.

Doesn't it bother any fellow channers to see this on a "real" website? To the person who posted it here specifically, what were you hoping to gain by posting that thread here? Are you new, friend?

The insular culture at HN is weird and, at times, frustrating, and it would be interesting to see some actual analysis of it (or how internet communities evolve culture over time in general). But who the fuck cares what 4chan thinks about anything? What does it say about HN that some random 4chan thread gets tons of upvotes?

The internet is weird.
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Have you tried a WebRTC service like Talky? It has anonymous, group video chats with screen sharing, room passwords, and persistent room URLs.

https://talky.io/
>That being said, Google employees, why is G+ more important than your users? is an incredibly loaded question and I think my tone might have stemmed from that.

It doesn't seem very loaded to me. The implication is simply that G+ is bad. Nothing more. That's a reasonable implication for someone to make. It's not a 'have you stopped beating your wife' type of question.
Quora works surprisingly well with a real names policy. They let you post particular comments anonymously if you want. Then it's pretty obvious when people are using anonymity for good reasons and when they're just being dickish. There, community voting plus some moderation polices things pretty well.
Because I don't trust the merchant, at least not when I don't have to.
> "Why did the arms race tip towards men competing and women getting it easy? Probably cultural norms."

Cultural norms that are followed by every live-birthing animal species, how strange.
> Is there some intrinsic reason that someone be referred
> to as "Jonathan Rockway" when you send them a message via
> the SMS protocol, but "jrockway" if you send that same
> message via Jabber?

Counter example: I'm internet-buddies with a person who goes by CUNT'N'PASTE. This is obviously not a name that complies with the Google+ naming policy, but it is the name they chose, and they should be permitted to use it. They were only able to register with Google+ by coming up with a fake name[1], and then spreading the word through other channels that they'd be using a fake name in G+ only.

They appear as CUNT'N'PASTE in my Android contacts app, because it pulls names from the Gmail contacts list, which I can edit so it complies with reality.

[1] Which makes G+ conversations confusing, because everyone has to remember that this person with the strange name in our comment boxes is actually Cunty, not whatever name G+ accepted.
With respect, the press is regularly quoting how many places now 'accept bitcoin' but it is all really a vanity metric. I know it is difficult to know how much these merchant accounts get used without internal information from the providers themselves, but from all internal accounts I have heard, the usage is dismal. For no surprising reason customers are generally disinterested in purchasing anything with Bitcoin that they can already purchase with their credit card.

I think Bitcoin is going to be revolutionary but the application is lacking - entrepreneurs really need to find a real world application where the use of Bitcoin actually improves the experience. Remittances and International Money Transfers are the first legal industry I can think of where that will work, but businesses in that area need time to grow and navigate the uncertain regulatory environment before Bitcoin will actually see adoption that really means something.
Doesn't the pseudonym policy still require your pseudonym's "brand" to be previously established (as arbitrated by Google) in order to create a "Page"? Because that's kind of completely terrible for being the only way to separate identities.

Also, in theory I'm not opposed to a unified login (nor are most of the people complaining I assume.) I've simply lost any faith I had that Google will keep different identities on the same account separate, after years of slip-ups, mistakes, and "oversights".
Writing us off as "geeks" is absurd. A lot of us are high level developers, architects, consultants, and so on.
> Imagine where you'd be forced to go if HN didn't exist, for example.

If you're saying that, I think you're actually part of the problem. Don't get your news and discussions from only one place on the web. There are lots more and it doesn't cost you anything visiting other places and reading comments from other people. The only risk is reading elsewhere something that didn't get to HN's frontpage.
Ever since Google has been integrating all their services to Google+, I have been using Google differently now:

1) Anonymous or no commenting on YouTube
2) Using Windows 8.1 Mail app to access Gmail. Because seeing that Google+ notification icon is distracting and annoying me
3) Stopped rating apps on Google Play store
4) Stopped contributing reviews to Local
5) Trying to stop using Google's Web products in favor of apps instead because of that damn Notifications bar.

I understand using a single Google Account for all services, but linking them all to one service where that service acts as a Social Network is not a service I would want to use anymore. They acquired Meeboo bar, and it seems they want every service they own have that bar and I despised that bar. Totally the wrong direction to take.

Treating each service separately would have been better and giving the option to the user to show that bar would have been great.