skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Long hours often die out when the compensation (i.e. share options) dries up.

I started off working 80+ hours a week, as did many of the others, and loved it. We all did pretty nicely out of it thanks to share options.

But 10 years later, post acquisition(s), and most people who are still here have families and more life outside work. I work part time so I have a day with my daughter and I officially work 33 hours a week, in a "long" week I maybe work 35 hours and I rarely ever take my laptop home. It's all helped me to be a lot more focused in the relatively short time I am at work.

I guess a lot of it is about experience and, as the saying goes, "Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement."
The insufficiency of the alternative spam solution is what I was afraid of. =/ It's easy to forget how awesome Gmail's spam filter is when you get spam in your inbox so rarely that you almost forget it exists at all.

I keep saying that Google could make a mint if they licensed an API for it. They probably just don't want to bother and would prefer that they keep its talents exclusive to Gmail. Also, I suppose that the people who'd want to utilize it would be leery of running their mail through Google's servers.
My adolescence has just been put in a shoebox and buried in the back yard.
I think the article is missing a very important point. Forced long hours are disastrous. But there are plenty of projects where people automatically put in long hours because the experience is rewarding. Either the money is good, or the project is interesting, or there is tons to learn. That varies from person to person.

This is yet another thing that I see with regards to procrastination. It automatically seems to vanish every time I work on some interesting projects, or if good money is involved. If you are unconsciously procrastinating for no good reason, may its a good sign that you find that project no longer rewarding. And its time to move onto something else.
> I don't understand the insistence that everything you do has to be harder than everything else

Where did I say that? Someone who appreciates intricacy should know that modern automata (e.g. software) is actually more intricate, by far, than antique automata.

It's just you'd never see a documentary piece like this on a piece of software, and I think it's only because software is a) not physical, and b) difficult to visualize.
er. this is probably a dumb idea. works for 1 person only i guess. you can use google's smtp after signing up for google apps. http://emailrelay.sourceforge.net/ is 1 of the ways to relay(actually more forward than relay i guess) via smtp.gmail.com. now you're not blacklisted? even if you're running your server at home on dynamic ip? now u just need to be able to update enom or dyn whats your ip as it changes?
Wow, site is hosed already. It's probably a good idea to do some basic load testing on your site before submitting a link ;)

Anyway, this is day 1130 for me. Before here I was on Slashdot, but had largely stopped using it before that. All its weaknesses and rough edges aside, to me HN is simply the most worthwhile forum I've ever been on.

I get most of my tech news from here, it has largely replaced RSS to be honest, it's a great place to see what smart people are up to right now, and finally it often provides content in the discussions that surpasses the content of the original article. I also enjoy discussions with smart people who don't necessarily agree with me (as long as it's civil).

One of its most valuable properties is the fact that it doesn't really matter (that much) who you are. HN gives virtual nobodies like me the chance to interact with extremely talented people and I'm really grateful for that.
This is pretty neat. Not sure if these are features available in the pro version but two things I think it's missing are (or that I didn't see in the demo):
- multiple identities, so that when sending email you can pick the from email address + signature
- setting filters for any header. This is useful for filtering mail based on the spam level header so that they go straight to the spam folder.

Really nice web interface though.
Shouldn't you be paying everyone an amount that equally benefits them?

Because that's entirely subjective and can't be calculated objectively.

Person A in SF might be paying $3000/mo in rent but also has top bands, a lot of popular culture, great shops, and so forth at their front door. These things counteract the lack of much disposable income for them.

Person B in Vietnam might pay $200/mo for a house but may also have frequent power cuts, poor access to healthcare, etc.. but the extra money counteracts these negative points for them.

This is one of many reasons Westerners get paid colossal salaries to work in places like Iraq or pockets of the Middle East. Cultural and security issues (in varying measures) are compensated for by a higher income.
Use chrome when debugging
I know you are probably only speaking for yourself, but smokeyj is dead-on as far as I am concerned.
New, from Labor Union! WEEKENDS! Two whole days off from work every week!

You buying yet?
Well, there is definitely some trend to see more general, non-hacking related topics featured on the front page of HN in the past year or so. I think everyone is well aware of that, and that is expected when a social community grows in size, while the karma restrictions and flagging somehow help to keep a certain order, I believe.

The creativity around the posts titles is also mostly gone in recent history, because of the application of new policies. I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or not.

In terms of the tone, I'm not sure how it has changed. It may be just me, but it seems to me there is more swearing and ad hominem than before in some discussions... while I think it used to be more civil before. But it may just be an impression, again.
My recall of OneTick was that it was actually not very high throughput at all.
I actually use squirrel mail but its interface is still stuck in 1999. Roundcube is pretty good but I didn't like it very much the last time I installed it.
I don't seem to be able to log in to their playground - anyone else able to register a new account? I just get "invalid username/password" no matter what I enter.

Other than that, I look forward to evaluating this .. maybe its a solution for a problem I have recently where I'm collecting massive log files of operation systems, and need to navigate/parse/analyze .. so I guess I import the logs into InfluxDB, and put a d3.js frontend on it ..
EDIT: Site seems down, cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pandora...

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When I first came across HN (around the time I started programming), I was a bit overwhelmed and intimidated upon seeing the projects/people/success stories in the community. I spent a lot of time just reading before I started posting. I've heard other people express similar thoughts.

Eventually, I just decided to start posting - there is no need to "wait" until you have a certain skill/expertise in an area. You can still make valid contributions to the discussion (of course, please read the posting guidelines).

So any lurkers out there, I encourage you to stop lurking and join the community. I did - and have consequently met many interesting people through HN and learned a lot of new things.

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On another note, the only group of people that seem to get tech/"internet" related (being purposely vague here) news faster than HN is people who use Reddit. I've had many conversations with friends who use Reddit where I will say "Hey, did you hear about X?" and they respond "Yeah, I already saw it Y hours ago on Reddit." Usually the difference isn't very large.
Social sharing links and buttons without the bloat
Is that statement objective or subjective?
I appreciate you offering up fair counter points. I think anyone who reads this article should take a look at your response to understand what "long hours" can mean in a good way. Definitely agree there's a lot more to discuss.

It's worth noting that the original article is content marketing for that company and they do not explicitly state that "culture consulting" is their business in the article. So it's fair to say they are using this as a mechanism to get more customers, and offering a fair point of view is secondary.
Assuming an average valuation/yearly revenue ~= 20 it means that for $3.5bn the should make $175m a year. If they have 350m photo shares a day (!!!) this number seems very well within their reach. They can even afford to monetize less aggressively and thus more user-friendly. I think it's one of these cases where numbers are so huge that they work in their favor whatever they do.
Looks like the server went down. :(
> the EULA for which you agreed

I never agreed to anything. Born into a social contract, you say? Well, only slaves are born into contracts, I will retort.
I had to save them and scp them over.

I just mounted my ~/mail/attachments locally using SSHFS. Saving them with Mutt made them automatically "appear" on my machine. You could also install a few viewers on the server and then use X11 forwarding, which works fine if you have a decent connection.
First of all, the public should do something about their privacy, if they are concerned about their privacy. Parents are teaching their children that anything they do on the internet is never private.

Nonetheless, I doubt I'm naive to believe engineers are not always making mistakes. The trick is always in admitting mistake, learning from them, and fixing the future. In this case, Google acknowledged the -- lawful -- slip in privacy encroachments and assigned a privacy director to oversee engineering and product management efforts. Every Google product now maintains a privacy-design document.
The Nexus 5 isn't pure Android, it's pure Google
If you don't get why this is an interesting (and fun!) fact, you probably missed this thread from yesterday: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6672029. The web page that is now gone had been up, more or less unchanged, from when the game was released back in 1998.
SEEKING WORK - Europe or remote

I build Ruby on Rails and Ember.js applications based on your idea.

Ruby / Rails (since version 2.x) / TDD / Git

MySql / PostgreSql / MongoDB

Html, css, haml, scss, Ember.js

info: http://acts-as-consultancy.com/
> It's probably a good idea to do some basic load testing on your site before submitting a link ;)

Yeah, I just never expected it would get so much attention. I guess I'll have to be more careful next.
I think the demo is the pro version already.
They have a decent forum:
http://www.afterlogic.com/forum

I installed it on a hosting account and it works well. But I still fighting to get a tiny VPS running to host my email. I plan to co-run Afterlogic and alpine via SSH. Alpine allows for multiple identities - you can put whatever you want in the FROM field if you enable this in the configuration settings.
Completely disagree with that. That is like saying you would prefer to have your own brother punch you in your face than a stranger.

It hurts a lot more because you are meant to look out for each other, not distrust and stab each others back.
Musk specifically covered this in the earnings call. They are production constrained and had to hold back deliveries in the US to ensure that people who made reservations in Europe two years ago would get their car.
Yeah, this needs a "fretless" version. It's interesting how the discretised version sounds much less creepy, though.
4 year anniversary party for an Open Issue
No, I thought the personnel costs / salaries was bonkers too.

EDIT: I read some of the comments on the Verge's page and it seems that the salaries were over a few years, and apparently that isn't bonkers money! I must be out of touch.
It's a good theory.

This is interesting because bitcoin is presented as a reliable store of value, but I bet a lot of people who trade on exchanges leave their coins with the exchange for convenience.

So - what if some operators hold less coins than they claim to have, and are shuffling around from a fractional reserve, as you describe?

There would be more coins in the system than actually exist. I get lost in the M1/M3 representation of volumes of money, but that starts to reintroduce some of the confidence problems with paper money.

But - if this problem exists - it will be temporary, and is not inherent to bitcoins. Either the ecosystem will evolve so people stop holding coins at the exchange, or there'll be a couple of run events causing a loss of confidence in exchanges for storage.
Most Computer Aided Design suites integrate mechanical simulation too. They can compute loads, stresses and so forth too. They even simulate gases and liquids etc, so they can 'run' combustion engines and so on virtually.

There are some really neat videos on the Autodesk and Solidworks websites, and doubtless there are other CAD suites doing this too.
I thought of building something akin to a social network for the sole purpose of letting the users create user scripts to customise their profile in lua.
Stealing user session with open-redirect bug in Rails
For day-to-day coding where you need that flow you should be using an IDE with incremental compilation. Full compiles are for releases or the like.
Internet.org ... seems to be missing?
I spent a long time trying to get the issue raised back in 2009.

http://alblue.bandlem.com/2009/08/modularity-for-scala.html
http://alblue.bandlem.com/2009/09/draft-scala-modularity-req...

Key to both of these was 'real' backward compatibility (i.e. the compatibility between versions like 2.8 and 2.9, not the patch level compatibility that exists at the moment).

I'm not moving the goalposts here; the issue is that having 2.8.x compatible with 2.9.y (or 2.9.x with 2.10.y etc) is a key point where Scala has failed, and continues to fail.

Until this is fixed, Scala won't be enterprise ready.

Rod's point (from his Scala days keynote) is that in 5 years Scala has a chance of being 'the' language, but only if it gets the backward compatibility issues sorted between 2.x and 2.x+1.

My point was I made exactly the same argument almost 5 years ago and nothing has changed, and since the past is the best predictor of future performance it is a safe bet that in 5 years time Scala won't have solved that problem, and thus won't be applicable for large enterprises.

This isn't a rant against users of Scala, it's a critique of the development plans that doesn't see this is a problem, or is happy to use Scala as an experimental playground that isn't likely to get widespread usage in enterprise.

If you can fit all your organisation's development teams in a single conference room, these problems are never going to apply to you, since you can just mandate that everyone switches at a particular date. But for organisations with hundreds or thousands of developers such an all-in-one switch isn't feasible.
9 subtle lies we all tell ourselves
> Every human being deserves an average of 8 hours of work, 8 hours of family/leisure, 8 hours of sleep and 2 days a week free.

"[...]deserves an average of 8 hours of work[...]"

"[...]2 days a week free[...]"

I think that's the snake oil you're smelling.

How does society ensure this can happen? With laws, of course! Why, we can just make overtime and >5 in every 7 days with worked hours illegal, it's so simple...
Try to find a fix for the ridiculously broken system that is the US government?
Wow. Thanks for spoiling the fun Microsoft.
20X revenue would be a really high valuation even for a SaaS business. 6-10X would be more likely in the long run.
Tesla is aiming for the M5 end of the market, Volt is more of a Prius
No. You don't understand what "intrinsic value" and "fiat money" mean. These two terms have literally opposite meanings! (Seriously, look them up.)

The USD has had zero intrinsic value since the end of the gold standard. That's why, by definition, it is called a fiat currency.

The USD has value solely because it is demanded (and the biggest demander is the US government, via taxes) and because people believe it will remain demanded.

The USD, or any fiat currency, has no value beyond this "belief". And this is not inherently wrong. Most of the world economies run on fiat currencies. Even Bitcoin is, technically, fiat.
And of course, the part which you neglected to mention: None of these companies have growth prospects which are anywhere near those of Tesla. Added in the potential disruptive potential of an all-electric car future once battery technology gets only slightly better than it is today.

I agree with you up to the point that this is a complicated analysis which can't really be done, but no further. This earnings call was really very positive, but the delivery was pretty lackluster.
They are likely both complicit in - as well as victims of - fiber tapping given GOOG now owns the building housing one of the largest peering exchanges on the Internet [1].

[1] 111 Eight Ave in NYC (housing Hiberia's trans-Atlantic cable, Equinox, Deutsch Telecom, etc)

http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2010/12/03/wsj-g...
Hopefully it will remain here - unchanged forever: https://web.archive.org/web/20131105002953/http://www.micros...
This is a billion or trillion dollar question, and there are many academics and industry analysts studying this and publishing results. It's just not in an area that the current HN audience is particularly competent in.
The idea is to help developers optimize their app's presence in the app store and get more downloads (hence get more reviews). We've had many indie developers use our product (even the free version) and increase downloads dramatically (3-4x).
Yes, exactly. If Passpack (or a government agency that can force Passpack to obey them) wants to read your passwords they can serve you JavaScript that leaks your secure data as soon as your browser encrypts it.
So HN reminded a Microsoft sysadmin to purge old directories.
It's not your fault, just a good example of the kinds of programming errors this language design makes more likely.
>them smiling as if nothing happened

that is the beauty of enterpreneurship here. You can try until you succeed, and a failure is just a step on the ladder to success. Burning through 4M is not even a noise in the humming of the money making Valley machine.
> I mean, to be fair, your argument was "large enterprises".
> Which, means Java. And in that regard you're not wrong since
> binary compatibility there is a given.

Exactly, and that's what Scala is up against. Java 8 will allow Java 7 compiled libraries to run without changes, and though there's a world of difference between Java 8 and Scala, in practice Java 8 gives developers some new features that they'll find useful and more performant than Scala (parallel collections, no implicit casting/conversions etc.)

It's also worth noting that 'backwardly compatible' and 'new features' aren't in conflict with each other. Java has had new features added (invokedynamic at the JVM, try-with-resources and string switch in the language layer) but they've still remained binary compatible. The problem is that Scala's approach to new features is to break binary compatibility between 2.x and 2.x+1 releases.
this is pretty cool! will be really cool for support/webinars.

I also understand its an early product, because on the spectator's screen, the HTML does not seem to be rendered properly.

With that said, (and as much as i hate to do feature requests), please allow us to speak via the mic. cheers!
Fuck the monstrous police state!
It reminds me of : http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3025

Sorry, the characterization in the comic is a bit aggressive, but I find the objections raised there sensible.
I'd argue it does. Deserve as mentioned in the parent implies some sort of generally accepted human 'right'.

The length of the work day/ work week is fairly arbitrary and definitely up for debate, there are great arguments that actually a three day working week would make far more sense [1].

Imo describing a simple convention in terms of deserve discourages debate and so should be avoided. Something broader such as `a human being deserves not to have to work every waking hour to live` would have been more acceptable as it separates the underlying principle from arbitrary conventions.

[1] http://www.neweconomics.org/publications/entry/21-hours
hey olgeni! anyone else?
Or maybe four; http://www.neweconomics.org/publications/entry/21-hours
I think a bigger war to end is that against carbs. The paleo diet trend has gotten out of hand, everybody's afraid to touch bread now. There's evidence both on a large scale (population wide - there are countries like Italy where carbs are abundant in the diet, and others where fats are more common) and in controlled studies, that your carb-calorie to fat-calorie intake ratio makes little difference to your overall health as long as you're getting both, along with protein.

Yet we have a group of people focusing religiously on minimizing carb intake and preaching to everyone about it. Am I seriously going to live an extra 20 years of youth if I don't eat delicious sandwiches for lunch?
It's not so much that they willingly sacrifice their leisure time for cheaper housing as that the US has really terrible urban planning.
I guite enjoyed the recent series of posts on gnolls.org "a calorie is not a calorie". I was quite convinced before that calories in has to equal to calories out for a stable weight, now I'm quite far from being sure

First article in the series:

http://www.gnolls.org/3374/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-calor...
One reliable way to get users on the app store is to pay for advertising based installs, which for free apps end up costing $1-2 per user. At 35/month, if the app store visibility optimization tools and analysis helps you get more downloads. Plus the app planning intelligence, product feedback, researching competitors -- it all saves time.

You could sit down with a notebook and tally where you rank for things every day, but you'd quickly spend much more time on it than the monthly fee is worthwhile.
Thanks for the reply. What about the additional latency of sending the rendered framebuffer to the local graphics card after it's received from the cloud? It seems like you're right on the edge of being able to do one-frame latency between input and render at 30 fps (33 ms per frame), but would have at least two-frame latency at 60 fps?
slashdot/digg/reddit/hn.... when will it end.
OpenSSH introduces curve25519-sha256 key exchange
Healthy oils actually tend to have a lot of saturated fat in them. Nuts, olive oil, coconut oil, avocados, are all quite rich in saturated fats, and actually are good for you (no scare quotes needed). The reason those oils are considered healthy is because of the types of saturated and unsaturated fats they contain.

Canola, or rapeseed, oil is somewhat less certainly good for you. And is quite low in saturated fats; which is why it became so popular. It was a low saturated fat alternative to higher saturated fat oils. That was probably a premature optimization...a variable was optimized before the full effects of diet were understood. Grapeseed might be a healthier alternatve to rapeseed oil for high heat cooking (olive oil has too low of a smoke point for any serious cooking, it's more of a finishing oil, if you care about your health). I skip it, along with corn oil and soybean oil. I don't know that it's unhealthy, but I've been seeing evidence that it might be for a few years now. The evidence that it is more healthy than other oils has all but evaporated, however, so there's no reason to choose it over cooking oils that have more recent and convincing evidence of their effect on health.