skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Remember that Paul Graham was a key leader in the early days of spam fighting using Bayesian filtering etc.

http://paulgraham.com/better.html

Spammers aggressively try to game email. Likewise, promoters aggressively try to game HN.

How do promoters try to game HN?

Voting Rings

If you're not familiar with that term, a voting ring is basically a group of people (or robot accounts) that collude to upvote certain stories.

It shouldn't be surprising that Paul Graham would take a similar approach to Voting Rings as he did to Spam.

In one of your comments, you said: "I know it doesnt work because I click upvote and it doesnt assign any points while a friend sitting right next to me could do the same thing and assign points."

If you and another account always seem to upvote the same stories, yet no one else seems to upvote them at the same rate, then it starts to look like a voting ring.

Just like with spam, there will be false positives. I've heard of this happening to folks who have an audience that are also largely HN users. When they send out a new post, then many of that audience upvotes the post, but since it's often the same people, the voting-ring protections get triggered and the post will quickly drop off the front-page.

There are probably many signals that pg uses to detect voting rings. I'm sure they're not perfect, but I'm glad they're there. Otherwise HN would be overrun by aggressive promoters and HN would quickly lose its usefulness.

Advice to promoters: 1) create valuable content that helps users be awesome (no one cares how awesome your brand is), 2) submit it to HN, and 3) don't ask your audience to upvote it

Many promoters just can't help themselves and will do #3 anyways. Just be forewarned that you will likely trigger the voting-ring protections and will be shooting yourself in the foot.

For help with #1, see http://shelby.tv/video/vimeo/54469442/kathy-sierra-building-...
I don't think it's an SUV. It reminds me of BMW X6, which is as much an SUV as it is a sports car.
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I was wondering the same. Nothing as far as I can tell.
Yea this font wouldn't work in scandinavia either.

I like the font but it needs more symbols to be useful.

Scandinavia needs ÄÖ and ÆØÅ. Accented characters would also be nice.
I'm curious how many people who have the ability to upvote or flag stories actually do so. For my part, I'm very conservative:

- I never flag stories; I may not find a story interesting, but I don't feel it's appropriate to impose my interests on others or 'police' their discussions.

- I rarely upvote stories, mostly because I'm usually browsing stories that are already on the front-page. Occasionally I skim through the new stories and if I see something interesting there I might upvote it.

- For comments, I upvote comments I find particularly helpful or insightful. I don't downvote comments very often unless they're particularly rude. However, I never downvote comments that are part of a discussion I'm having; I don't trust my impartiality in that case.

If my behavior is typical, then stories are being controlled by a 'vocal minority' who take the time to upvote or flag them. As in any group, the vocal minority tends to have the more fundamentalist / extremist points of view on a subject, which could lead to the outcomes TFA discusses.
Is there ever! I used Reflector to mirror onto my screen, Quicktime to screen record my laptop, then MPEG Streamclip to crop it, then an online converter to convert to OGV for Firefox!
Do you live in Nashville? Nashville is progressing faster than Knoxville, but far slower than Chattanooga. It's a complex situation, and I don't think you can boil it down to comparing the churches. As far as being a "sleeper tech city", I've yet to see any indication that Nashville is on the verge of a high tech or startup renaissance. If you want to see a traditionally conservative, "sleeper tech city" look no further than Greenville, SC. Greenville has recently (in the last 7 years) entered a rapid development phase with numerous tech startups, co-work facilities, etc. Have you ever considered moving to Greenville? I'd move to Greenville over Nashville any day. OR I could start a company in Maynardville - farming as a service or some such thing.
As much as I’d love if they got it down that far, is the vehicle significantly cheaper for them to manufacture such that they could sell it at that price (vs the $70k+ for the Model S)?
There have been a very small handful of people who have claimed (without much supporting evidence) that they would pay more. There has been pretty much zero evidence given that people who have insurance through their employer will see any changes.

Saying "because it's so well established" 14 days after the website opened, when most people can't even get onto the site, and a vast majority of people aren't even trying... is BS.
> given the treatment of stories like the NSA surveillance in the NYT (severely lacking, and often just parroting the government line without question), Iraq wars (again, severely lacking)

We must be reading different versions of the NYT, as they've been severely critical of the US government in both situations.
Introducing Rubinius X
Looks like something the wife would want.

This is aimed squarely at women.
How would you make it better? At the end of the page the author acknowledges the need for help in making the font better. I know nothing about making fonts, but you clearly have some ideas.

So, what needs to be added before a professional designer would consider this font?
I believe the signal to noise ratio hovering around -20 dB has some inherent linkage with what we're discussing.

Different behavior results, sure, but look at the cost. Whats the SNR on HN, -3 dB, -6 dB maybe? Would HN readers tolerate HN turning into mostly garbage with a handful of precious gems?
Awesome! I have intentions to make a stock analysis app to share and monitor different analytics...this could come in handy building a feed for them.
Why Are You So Bad At Public Relations? (And What You Can Do About It)
Doesn't seem likely: "Deliveries will begin in 2014 and priced comparable to a similarly equipped Model S"
The point of Hacker News isn't "to discuss things that (insert whoever currently is complaining that the HN front page doesn't match what their list of most important links is) I think are important." It's to discuss what hackers find interesting. This is explicitly stated in the goal of the site. Hacker News isn't a democracy, there are other places on the internet to find that.

ADDENDUM: To those who counter that Hacker News has become such an important place in the internet consciousness that it needs to now address these things, consider that a primary reason it has become as important as it is now is that the rule you now complain about have done what they were intended to do.
OS X took its /dev/random from FreeBSD. The CSPRNG design is Yarrow. It explicitly unifies urandom/random; they're the same device.

Colin may correct me on this, but I looked it up again to be sure.

/dev/urandom is the Unix standard for crypto randomness; I don't think there's much point in being more portable. Any Unix on which you're going to deploy strong crypto should provide a workable /dev/random.

I'm not sure what a userland daemon could do for you that the kernel couldn't do. The parent commenter's demands are as rigorous as any CSPRNG user's could be: he's building a crypto library and can't assume his users are casual. If a CSPRNG can be made faster for his use case, there's a strong argument that the kernel should provide that performance by default.
“… and priced comparable to a similarly equipped Model S.” Looks like they don't have an explicit price, but the price point in general is there.
Starting a rapid growth, venture-backed startup (which is the route YC tends to lead towards) may be incompatible with other jobs, but there are plenty of forms of startup or entrepreneurship that are. As the article mentioned, GitHub was started in the founders' spare time while they were employed elsewhere. Plenty of startups bootstrap themselves through consulting - it slows you down, but it also reduces risk which may be appropriate for some people (people with families to support for example). 37signals were a web consultancy when they launched Basecamp.
Starting companies is very hard. Even overnight success stories have had many dark hours. If you're going to YC and asking for outside money from people looking for home runs, by definition you are going to have push very very hard.

If you want stories about small businesses that don't require outside funding, the articles about the YC experience probably aren't for you. (Nothing is wrong with small self funded businesses, it's just a different genre)
"I don't see how it can encourage investment if inflation punishes savers. Savers are at the source of investment. If nobody saves where do you borrow money for your startup?"

You're conflating all saving. Stashing money under my mattress (or in a vault) is not a source of investment. Saving is investment only if investing is how you save - investing is currently how you save partly because cash holdings lose value.

"Yeah, you are right, that worked pretty well for the US industry in the past 30 years to have a galoping inflation. Look where your industries went."

1) Inflation has not been "galloping" over most of the past 30 years. 2) I certainly don't assert that high levels of inflation are a good thing - low, controlled, stable, present seems to give the best results. 3) Nonetheless, yes, look where our industries went: mostly to countries with weaker currencies and more inflation.
The entire implementation of sorted sets is really interesting, with a dual implementation of ziplists and skiplists being used depending on the amount of elements in the list. I've been meaning to write bit more about Redis internals lately; maybe I'll start on that in my commute hours.

I've got a couple of general articles on adding a command and adding a datatype to Redis at http://starkiller.net, but I don't get too into existing code. I'd be interested in writing a bit more about the other data structures as well as the multiple strategies used for EXPIRE (which recently changed I believe).
It's a very odd decision, though. There's a variety of good reasons why minivans use those elaborate sliding-doors, and going with wing-doors instead is very surprising. The question is not "wing vs traditional" but, for a 3-row family vehicle, "wing vs sliding".

Sliding doors are heavy and expensive and complicated devices, but they can be reached by short children and have near-zero clearance requirements.

I wonder if they went with the wing-doors purely to avoid the "minivan" connotations of sliding ones?
As well as definitive books, you need a carefully graded way of proceeding through them - plus a very good index. As David Palmer pointed out in his novel Emergence, one would have to devise a 'system to locate specifics in such huge collection. Useless otherwise; researcher could spend most of life looking for data instead of using.'

Other critical books should include philosophy and science: it took a long time to build a technological civilization, and the Scientific Method is the cornerstone of this. (And yet even now, much of the world is still mired superstition/religion.)

More crucial lessons from John Wyndham's The Day of the Triffids: 'The most valuable part of our flying start is knowledge. That's the short cut to save us starting where our ancestors did. We've got it all there in books if we take the trouble to find out about it...

'From my reading of history, the thing you have to have to use knowledge is leisure. Where everybody has to work hard just to get a living and there is no leisure to think, knowledge stagnates, and people with it. The thinking has to be done largely by people who are not directly productive - by people who appear to be living almost entirely on the work of others, but are, in fact, a long-term investment. Learning grew up in the cities and in great institutions - it was the labour of the countryside that supported them...

'A community of our present size cannot hope to do more than exist and decline. If we stay here as we are, just ten of us now, the end is, quite inevitably, a gradual and useless fade-out. If there are children we shall be able to spare only enough time from our labour to give them just a rudimentary education; on generation further, and we shall have savages or clods. To hold our own, to make any use of all the knowledge in the libraries we must have the teacher, the doctor, and the leader, and we must be able to support them while they help us.'
Crap, it's not going to work until we solve energy usage. It's not free energy or cheap to deliver by air.
But what is important is that the ongoing debates between these opinions be driven by facts
Right, so, Orson Scott Card once gave a piece of writing advice: as soon as you notice that your story is trying to give someone a moral, try to undermine it or thwart it in some way. I think that's what you're seeing here (notwithstanding the series' overarching allegory on the book of Mormon and whatever attendant lessons exist there).

Postscript:

Hey, guys, some of you need to crank up the ostentatious "I hate ender's game!" knob a little louder. Some of us still are unaware that there exist people who dislike the book! Surely your links to a blog post which polarizes the matter in the light of your favorite philosophical or political movement will change everyone's opinion and fix this. :P
These stories regularly appear, get upvoted, inspire lots of discussion, then get flagged and disappeared within the hour. It's almost as if the people /visiting/ this site want to talk about these things but the people /running/ the site don't.

Also, many of us have no problems with postmodernity and consider ourselves part of the political left. Which is fine, programming and god forbid "startup culture" should not be monolithic.
Most people mainly have their labor to invest. I'd say the people who understand this and diversify their investments are the entrepreneurs this article is talking about.
We had perfectly good flamewars on BBSes in the 80s, and it only got worse once fidonet sprung up.

And before that on ham radio bands like 80M and to a lesser extent 20M we had plenty of people arguing over basically nothing since... I donno 1920s or so?
Some ideas: ourbabystartup.com, mybabystartup.com, lilstartup.com.

These are all available. And, it gives you options for other baby products.
Whoa....
These are great! Thanks!!
How so? Looks to me that it's aimed at people who have to drive kids around, what with the "easy access to a 3rd row of seats" feature.

They've gone to substantial lengths to avoid having it bear traditional minivan styling - it looks like a sedan and is branded as an SUV - so it avoids the worst of the "mom-car" features. Other than the female silhouette in the door image, I fail to see how this is "feminine".
This is a great article, I learned about a lot of people I didn't know about before.
That's the problem with the government and software... the release date and features are mandated by law. The only thing that can give way is quality.
Photos were a little to high-input for me to implement in the first version - wanted to give people something stupid simple, but finding a way to get photos in there without a lot of effort by the user (taking a picture of someone you just met is weird) would be amazing.
Rubinius X, an experiment in modernizing Ruby
As an other point of data:

- I only flag stories that are clearly posted here for promotional purposes only (example: Ask HN threads where the author does not ask anything but just posts a link to his site/startup)

- I upvote stories that I feel have a very good level of quality (i.e., deeply technical stuff) and have a low point count (support the underdogs)

- I upvote any comment that's mature, respectful, and which the author clearly spent a decent chunk of time on.
Does anyone else think "Falcon Wings" sounds uncharacteristically silly and gimmicky?
“The 'use asm' pragma is not necessary to opt into optimizations in V8”
Smart watches could fuel profits for app developers
That's not why Hacker News exists. It's to share and discuss things hackers find interesting. It got as popular and important as it is for a reason, and a piece of that reason are the rules that people now are complaining about. There are other places on the internet to vent your outrage.
Ooh, thanks for the link! I'm interested in trying to write a bit in that style so it'll be nice to see a few more sources.
My first reaction was, "Did I solve this in Project Euler once?"
I hate SUVs.

The disadvantages of a sedan in conjunction with the disadvantages of an off-road.

SUVs in Spain are used by mothers when they go to school to pick up their kids. Useless vehicles.

i.e. BMW X5 vs Lada Niva:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q8jt-Y75Kc
You should visit new and upvote the interesting links, and consider flagging the links that should not be here.

If a submission is good I always upvote it.

I downvote quite often, but not for disagreement, only for comments that are not helpful to the discussion.

HN would be better if more people used their tools.
Samba 4.1 brings Linux desktop and Mac files from Windows 8, Server 2012
I had an idea for a similar app, perhaps you can incorporate my idea into yours. My idea was when you write down their name, it also saves the available wifi mac addresses it sees in the vicinity. Then when you see someone again somewhere else you can look at the app for names that might be them (based on the visibility of wifi mac addresses).

The theory is that people carry a phone on them that is unique and is often in wifi mode trying to make a connection which broadcasts the mac. So when you record a contact, one of the visible mac address might be them. In a new place it sees what mac addresses are around and loads up your contact list based on what addresses were visible at the time.
This is still an open question, and a really good one.

The predictive power of quantum theory is amazing; it gives excellent numerical predictions as to the outcome of experiments. But as to how we interpret that, especially the question of what a measurement is, is not at all addressed by the theory, and remains a point of intense discussion and study.
Ugh. Daily Mail link.
Snapchat hack secretly saves images using app
This country is tightly controlled by the government.

The Internet is an example. The GFW (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shield_Project) surveillance all connections in China like NSA but since 10 years ago and people are used to it.

Even large payment companies in China (like Alipay) could do litter about economic innovation, they have to obey the rules set by the government and bank.

Any big company in China could challenge these rules by using a method which independent of any central authority in the future? I don't think so.
Founding a company can absolutely be a part time endeavor. In fact, why would you jump in full time before you have reason to believe its' going to return revenue.

I spent a year working on a doomed concept before acknowledging that it was probably better to have a job that paid dollars every two weeks.

Eventually, sure, it makes sense to go full time. But there's got to be some kind of real-money-rationale.

If that's the case, of course a career isn't going to be a clean, linear sheet. My resume looks like a cobweb. But for some people, one job for 35 years is totally still attainable.
Good point.

Additionally, a lot of the liberal/conservative divide is actually urban vs. rural. Davidson Co. is certainly mostly urban.

I think I just have a skewed perspective of things, as I interact almost entirely with people in the rural parts of TN (which obviously isn't Nashville itself).
It is not about saving it is about spending. You need to buy certain things in life, like food. You need to pay taxes if you do not want to be thrown in prison. You need to do business with people who need to buy things; barter will only get you so far.

So sure, you can have your offshore savings in whatever currency you want, but at some point you need to spend that money locally. Bitcoin does not avoid this in any way; it actually adds an additional step to transactions, since you need to convert Bitcoin into your local currency (even businesses that "accept Bitcoin" usually accept payments through services that exchange Bitcoin for some fiat currency for a small fee). You might dream of a world where Bitcoin never needs to be exchanged, but that is not going to happen until governments start accepting Bitcoin payments for tax purposes (and why would any government do that?).
/b/ is not 4chan. I for one find the /int/ board pretty interesting (less the racist bullshit that's posted from time to time to troll people).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Russia#Putin.27s_fir...

Nice little graph there.
If you look at the side profile of the Tesla from the rear you'll see some Mercedes R class in there. Not the most flattering comparison but it was supposed to be Mercedes' version of a cool minivan with SUV characteristics. Tesla's own marketing copy even mentions minivans.

I'm guessing they branded this as a "SUV" to appeal to the market (SUV=cool Minivan=Not) more than as an accurate description of it's capabilities.
I think I agree with what you mean, but I only agree in practice if this thread was started and is being contributed to by the OP. He can't control if an HNer submits this.
Very good points - thanks!

This helps me clarify my thinking a bit: I think the 37signals approach is actually a good one. The key there is that the team stays together, works together, and evolves together - even if the actual project of the day isn't directly related to the company's "core."

I guess what I'm concerned about are the situations where the founders' attentions are split. "Sorry guys, I can't make this big pitch meeting because my other job needs me" or "Yeah I'd love to be there for the big push before our demo, but I have to get up early tomorrow for a meeting at my other job", etc. That's the stuff that's potentially very difficult.
Hackers clearly find these topics interesting - they get upvoted and spark debate. The problem is that if they spark excessively acrimonious debate, the topic gets treated as if it wasn't interesting in the first place. The stated aim is to avoid flamewars, not to avoid making people aware of controversial topics.
Can't believe this got to the front page "organically" :)
But then again most of the US is not like Detroit. There are many pockets of disenfranchisement throughout the country, but by and large the infrastructure and social institutions are in decent shape considering their scale. In contrast, much of Russia is dilapidated.
The post contains lots of contradictory facts.

First, some people (not all) are using other tools than Ruby. They are looking for a solution to their problems. IMHO Ruby is not even present in the discussion when people make their choices. But Rails is. So I'm not sure that modernizing Ruby is sufficient. Building a modern framework around it could be though. I mean, people go to NodeJS because of Node, not because of Javascript...
I'm going based off of his own list. Sheesh.
Hey everybody. I'm the designer of Norwester. Thanks for the interest and feedback. Yea, the font is really limited right now. Please use it judiciously as there are a lot of glyphs not accounted for, as digitalengineer pointed out. Please let me know if you have any special requests or catch any thing not looking right. Thanks again!
I don't see an issue with that. There are other venues for discussing certain things. This isn't to say that these topics are bad, just that at the time, they really don't belong here.