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No, you're right, it doesn't. But if you take all of the pieces that Google have been assembling over the past few years - Chrome Browser & OS, Docs & Spreadsheets (ie. Apps), Gmail, Android, NaCl, etc... these all add up to a very slick platform that ticks a lot of boxes.

For a very large number of people, a cheap PC/netbook/tablet thing with a browser that can do web, email, light word processing & spreadsheets, boots in 2-3 seconds and costs $150 would be ideal. I'd buy one.

Chrome OS + Chrome Browser + Google Apps puts Google in a position to deliver this, using super light & cheap ARM netbooks, taking them to a place which Microsoft will find it very hard to follow. This puts them in a position to take away a pretty large proportion of MS's home users, who are currently running a ~2-3yr old PC with XP on it for these tasks.
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I know David from various different settings and even he will agree that he's a smarmy fellow.
10 engineers to program one data structure? I'd be greatly surprised if 1 PhD and 2 engineers couldn't easily do the additional work beyond distributed grep in less than six months. Maybe one engineer to maintain it? That saves ~$200k/mo--more if you go over 20 queries/second it takes to max out the 5800cpu limit.
I don't know if you'd want the kind of publicity I'd be selling; each email would start with "Dear lazy buffoon" and only go downhill from there ;)
I know you from one setting, and so far my impression is that you registered an account just to talk shit about someone anonymously. I think you will agree that makes you a despicable coward.
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Apple has also voiced concerns that Ogg Theora may be encumbered by unknown patents. That risk isn’t significant to Mozilla and Opera, both of whom could simply abandon the format for something else in the same way that the web temporarily abandoned commercial support for GIF after Unisys tried to sue everyone for using it. However, for a company like Apple that has built a business that requires selling media content and supporting hardware acceleration in mobile devices, it’s not possible to randomly drop a codec technology when a submarine patent threat appears. Apple also has a bankroll to attract patent trolls that Mozilla and Opera both lack.
Sweet, I've not seen this approach before.

It still doesn't convince my colleague, because he says that the sequence never gets to zero, but now I know where I stand. He can't deal with the formalisms of convergence and limits.

It's also interesting to try to prove this via the Dedekind Cut construction, rather than the equivalence classes of Cauchy Sequences. I'll have a go at that later tonight.
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Im convinced it's not a coincidence that this week they also announced dropping a load of beta tags, hid the free apps sign up page a little more and made a number of other tweaks.

I get the impression they are trying to repackage their cloud services together: it would make sense if the plan for Chrome OS is to ultimately tie it all together.
So now we can make humans in factories like in Matrix?
OpenDNS claims openly to be profitable. You're saying this is false?

Your claims of desperation do not jibe with one of the VCs being... Sequoia.
I already implemented it on my blog, works almost perfectly. I'd like to change fonts, font sizes etc. as well though.
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Google has already indirectly "extended" Native Client with native 3D graphics using their O3D API (http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/). It's just a matter of time until someone codes up a library to expose that API through JS interop in Native Client.

I think we can expect very close integration of Native Client into the Chrome OS as soon as or right after it goes public. To the level of accessing hardware ports to control external devices right from your Native Client web-app.

Imagine drivers that get loaded and updated on-the-fly. Of course, Google will have to implement a smart security mechanism (along the lines of RSA authentication for dynamic device/driver coupling) and provide a way for device manufacturers to register their driver's public keys with Chrome OS.
Hooray! So now I can download the porn images I saw elsewhere back to my laptop directly from my brain! This way you get all the porn mags for free!
The value added by the VCs is the amount of money the venture capital fund makes above and beyond what one would make from investing the same amount of money, over the same time period, in something low/no risk like, say, U.S. Treasury bonds. If a venture fund does poorly, the value added may be negative.

VC's should get a significant percentage of their value added. But 2% of the principle per year works out, over a ten-year period, to a good 20% of the principle, risk free. That sort of guaranteed return is sure to attract all the wrong sorts of people to be VCs.
... and porting or rewriting the device drivers.
No doubt it will be a windowing system optimized for showing exactly one full-screen "window", and perhaps occasional modal dialogs.

I believe both Qt and GTK+ can be compiled to draw directly to the Linux framebuffer, if you don't want to use X (although they don't exactly provide much in the way of window management).
The name is both relevant and ironic.

They called the browser Chrome because part of the mission was to strip back the browser's chrome (i.e. its UI) and give prominence to the web content. This philosophy is likely to be applied to the OS too.

"The OS or the browser?"

The OS only exists to provide the browser, which in turn only exists to provide the web. As others have pointed out, no-one (non-geek) knows what a browser is, I doubt they'd do much better with questions about operating systems.
So Arrington sees the future (or future competition for Google) as netbooks w/o Windows relying on Google Chrome (+ Zoho) to give the guy-in-the-street everything s/he needs.

It just might. Is this the real avenue to the one-laptop-per-child (in U.S./Europe/Pacific Rim even)?
What "baggage" does .NET come with specifically other than being from MSFT? And I don't know what "technical problems" .NET, the framework, has. That opening sentence is just so vague and full of very strong statements yet there is absolutely no defense of those statements. I'm no MS apologist but the guy's asking for reasons why there's a .NET stigma and the first sentence in your response is just hyperbole IMO.
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Yes, it "redefines" the OS. But that doesn't mean MS is pwned (yet).

But, yes, surely those at MS with any vision at all, probably are sweating. If not, they're going to be left out of the next revolution...

Can you say, "Microsoft: the newspaper for the 21st century"?
In addition to fast and shiny, Chrome is elemental. It's really a great brand name for their attempt to make the dominant web operating system, where web operating system means the underlying software infrastructure from bottom up required to run advanced web services perfectly.
It might also allow lesbian couples to conceive using only their own DNA, if this technology isn't limited to male genes.
Wait - you answered a different question, didn't you? The question you answered seems to be, "Should I just learn .NET or should I learn more stuff along with it?"
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No thanks Google, we've got Ubuntu
Flash has a few small problems on Linux, but generally is usable.
Adobe are working on full Flash 10 for ARM-based linux on netbooks and smartphone platforms, due for next year.

Whether Google wants or needs it is another question.
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That's funny, 'cause I don't know you and it's my first time posting on this site, though I've visited precisely once beforehand. I did read the site guidelines and I suggest you do the same. There is a bit in there about civility that you have clearly missed.

As for David: his line of work is identical to Verisign's roundly reviled typo-squatting model.
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I've used elance for 6-8 projects in the past. It helped me - I can't say I'd use it again today but, at the time (2004-2006) it was a good choice. Today I'd likely opt for local talent via referrals or craigslist. I'm not sure if it's because my budgets and needs are different today or whether it's because of my experiences on elance TBH.

Overall my experience was mixed - terrible all the way to excellent. I think there is a learning curve and I would suggest starting with as small of a project as you can first so that you can see how it works. I made many mistakes but by far my worst mistakes were made when I created a single post for multi-step tasks. Had I broken each of those into smaller components, I would've been able to control the quality (and budget) better.
I don't get the impression that is actually a significant problem for anyone. Most distributions include the same libraries, recent kernels with similar options and even put things in similar places. Packaging is the major difference - though that's a job best left to the distributions anyway.
Can Disqus track comments that I make on a non-Disqus blog? I wasn't aware of that.
Stuck @29 :(
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You'd still need the Y-chromosome. While not as big as the others, it does contain some genetic material.
same here can;t go beyond 29
But will Native Client work on ARM?
What an awful headline! As if a nuclear bomb is something great to use it as a metaphor. Google Hiroshima?
You're grossly over-complicating my needs.

None of my websites (that I would edit on the netbook) are business critical / make money / have any real world importance whatsoever. I can log in via cpanel, roll out some coding amends live and worry about breaking things as and when it happens.
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> I put it down to the fact that a lot of programmers take exception at being given advice on how to do things and hence they learn the hard way.

Agreed, but on the other hand, I've noticed that from time to time the initial reaction is being annoyed, and then, after a while, they start to adopt what you told them. The initial reaction probably is an ego-thing, but after some private contemplation, they see things more rationally.

I'm no exception to this, BTW. I too have found things that I've done for years that in hindsight seemed stupid after somebody pointed them out. And yes, I got defensive and annoyed about it. Human nature, I suppose.
You'd have to trust Microsoft to not play their usual compatibility games with everything (from web standards to gaming the ISO standard process).

Good luck with that.
Not if they want a daughter.
Umm, why do you feel a need to downvote and reply to every criticism of this company?

Just because something is making money doesn't mean it is making enough money to be worth keeping around. Also, doesn't mean it's making as much money as someone thought it would. The VCs involved may have invested sensing a turnaround opportunity, or to combine OpenDNS with a portfolio company. I'm sure they received favorable terms for their cash.
You'd still need a uterus.

Plus they didn't do that in the Matrix (as far I can remember from the show it was regular births).
"news.ychromasome.com. While not as big as the others, it does contain some material"?
I knew of the Site Finder incident, but I am not very familiar with the details. That said, isn't the big difference with OpenDNS that it is opt-in? You don't have to use it if you don't like the advertising component, but they are providing much more than redirects of unregistered domains. They also correct misspellings, block phishing sites, and any other category of domains you want to filter out. Especially in a corporate setting, it seems like they can provide quite a bit of convenience.
Even for a minimalistic web-browser Chromium is still rather lacking. While what used to be butt ugly font-rendering has gotten better, at least to the point of readable, as far as I can tell there is still no plugin support.

The only way you can fully configure the browser is still trough running gconf-editor for some parts, and configuring Firefox and then importing settings from there.

That being said, my biggest issue with the current chromium builds is that performance is truly horrible and majorly unstable. Sometimes things just works, snappy, as expected. But in more than 50% of the cases when opening a new page the entire browser locks, for what can be periods of up to 5 to 10 seconds. Wasn't process isolation supposed to fix this?

If this browser is going to be the "OS" for the web, in it's current state its closest equivalent would be Windows 3.11.

IMO Firefox 3.5 is a much better browser, while peak performance being somewhat slower, at least it performs predictably.
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> On my system, it doesn't even bounce in the dock before opening.

I think it doesn't bounce for a different reason. For example, Firefox doesn't bounce when it autoupdates. Everything should bounce for at least one time in normal conditions.
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The current state of the Chrome browser on Linux would make this "web OS" the equivalent of Windows 3.11. In it's current state, there is really no way to compare Chrome and Chromium and claim they represent the same kind of polished product. Chromium had so much issues with stability and performance, that I had to give up on it. I took a short detour by Opera, before Firefox 3.5 became usable, and I was back where I started.

If I were going to make a web OS, even for netbooks, I would rather have it use Firefox 3.5 as performance is much more predictable and reliable, not to mention it can be extended with addons, something I would consider a minimum for any platform.
I find these threads deeply ironic (the 400 page ones, anyways) because both sides arguing are ultimately wrong because both perspectives are correct. People with the naive perspective aren't wrong for not specifying they aren't talking about the hyper real numbers, because the other side doesn't specify they are talking about real numbers.

At a philosophical level, the answer is that .999999999999999999999999999... is different from 1. The difference is real enough to let you rigorously define calculus.

This is one of those subjects that makes an online community go insane (with 400 page threads), because it's possible for the math people and the philosophical people to go on and on without figuring out the right answer.
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Their service is a much more invasive version of what Verisign was rightly excoriated for -- they don't stop at squatting on wildcard DNS + malware domains, they proxy Google search!

My shitty ISP's DNS is only slower than OpenDNS on my ISP's awful internal network that routes my DNS packets over it's internal network cross-country for no reason -- on the internet backbone OpenDNS is marginally slower. Both are completely blown out of the water by Level3's free public DNS (4.2.2.1 - 4.2.2.6).

OpenDNS's claims to speed are bullshit, and they don't even seem to try -- I've only ever seen packets routed to them via NTT/Verio, which is the least-connected and highest-latency Tier 1 Network.
Or Native Client apps.
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Ah, right, I misinterpreted what you meant by "light coding".
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Funny how the news about the browser having to become more like a OS comes from Microsoft about just the same time Google announces their own web-tailored Linux distro.

I'll just assume this is a coincidence, but it seems Microsoft is (finally) getting the whole appeal of the web-thing and is starting to move their focus on providing solutions for the web, both client and server-side.
While it's not unusable, the performance issues are not trivial. At least on slower CPU:s.
Using the Linux kernel in GCOS is not intended to compete with mos Linux distributions, rather it is to keep the lights on.
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Similar with Android.
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They are probably bringing hardware partners into the fold. They need some lead time to do that. Partners are notoriously bad at keeping secrets. Just ask anyone who worked on a big secret project at a large company: leaks come from 3rd parties almost exclusively.
Is this a response to bing? If you go after my market, I'll go after yours.

It's not only the Chrome OS thing. Google Apps out of beta could mean that Google is serious about competing in the groupware segment.
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This is why the open source movement is so interesting, we're seeing competition and innovation in Operating Systems like never before.

The cost of taking world-class components (like the kernel, filesystems, windowing systems) is so low that it makes sense for people and companies to experiment, as we're seeing now. Chrome OS would be prohibitively expensive to develop if they weren't able to take so much off of the shelf.
Agreed, this is just too convenient for, say, the Chinese govt. (as just one example).
just 2 days a go i predicted that google will come out with its own OS - though android - but never expected that in just couple of days my gut feeling will come true ...

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=688732
Problems like crashing my browsers 10x a week, and using 50x the CPU that mplayer uses to play the same video.
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"In most cases, such similarity evolves from having overbroad generalizations and/or squinting from various angles till some vague similarity is seen."

Yes -- you are absolutely correct.

To be specific: agile is incremental, iterative development, emphasizing the social aspect instead of the process measurement aspect of technology development. Agile is also a marketing term and not a branded, concrete system of anything. People have books on agile everything. Because of that, it can best be thought of as an ideal that teams strive to reach.

This means that there is no "pure" agile team. Instead you are looking for agile aspects of a team -- which means that most high-performing teams are going to have some. Agile best practices are simply those practices which most teams will naturally evolve over time. You can pick them up and save yourself some evolution.

"Most of the agile "gurus" can't code for nuts."

A lot of them haven't coded in years, if ever. They're professional teachers, or book writers, or "celebrities". I'm working now with a large corporation as an agile coach (I code regularly) and we've got a couple of guys who are hard-core TDD zealots. Problem is, none of them have coded a real honest-to-god production system in the last five or ten years. One guy has never coded. Yet they're the first ones to tell other teams what they need to do to improve. They read a book or attend a seminar (usually by some other guy who hasn't coded in years) and suddenly they know what everybody else should be doing. That's not saying that TDD won't work -- it's saying that to help a team you really need to be actively working on a team and not be a wonk. I remain dubious of TDD, but that's me.

Beware of well meaning teachers and non-hackers who start getting the agile religion.
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Google says the software architecture will basically be the current Chrome browser running inside “a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel.” So in other words, it basically is the web as an OS.

Or, in a bit less sensational words, they are not developing an OS but a window manager for an existing OS. They might also be dropping X11 as they go, but the article doesn't give that away.

This might actually work for netbooks that are mostly used as a fullscreen browser. But I don't see this making any significant inroads on bigger laptops or desktops in the foreseeable future. The technology behind "the web" just isn't up to the task. Wrong tool for the job.

The problems begin on such a basic level that I find it ridiculous someone with the engineering muscle of google is even considering this.

How basic? Well, we don't even have a Socket on this soon-to-be-an-OS platform. That basic. Admittedly it should be relatively simple to add and hopefully the one outcome of this project will be that Websocket finally gains traction (across all browsers).

But it doesn't stop there. The HTML/JS combo is lacking severely in many areas relevant to RIAs. People still have to reinvent basic widgets like comboboxes, datepickers, auto-completion, richtext input, sliders etc. in javascript. CSS is still a nightmare even for simple layouts. Will google fix these problems and break compatibility to other browsers? Don't think so.

So here's what I think they'll deliver: A mangled linux distro with chrome running fullscreen, likely even on top of X11. It'll have a fancy start-page that wants to log you into the google universe first. There will be some flashy widgets and a fancy javascript framework for the windowing - but overall it will just be a fullscreen browser with all its problems.

I hope they surprise me and do better. Because if this is their plan then I think it's time to sell some of those GOOG shares. Google never needed to hype their products upfront thus far. In that light this is a worrying announcement.
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On the same note, without Open Source, netbooks may never have gotten a start. Microsoft could have charged a prohibitive license fee to sell $350 laptops. They could have refused to continue XP. Windows 7 for netbooks would never have been necessary.