skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Celebrities have highly paid staffs of experts just to pull this off on a continuing basis. Don't even get me started on the photoshopping.

Should we be surprised when its adopted by the masses?
Add on:

+ I don't have to maintain it. (Anti-malware, etc.)

+ Comes with the applications I want. (Wherever they are hosted -- local or on the net.)

Chrome might make the netbook into an (true) appliance. A lot of people would like that.

I think the killer feature for Google may be manipulable audio-visual. The ability to insert and control advertising in A/V media. There's a reason they continue to pour money into YouTube.
Yeah, I don't really get it. Going through their code, docs, it doesn't seem to really offer anything new. I commend them for the open source, but in the end: meh.
The market for casual online flash (and now, with V8, pure JavaScript/Canvas) games is much larger than the general 3D-accelerated PC game market.
And it'll have NaCl preinstalled, presumably.
Or, more likely, one or more netbook vendors are just done rolling their own linux distros for netbooks and have asked Google to step in. They don't want Android, as Android has some hardware requirements established by the OHA that aren't appropriate for netbooks.

The end business goal may be to just get Google to create a better linux option, a -marketable- linux option, so those same vendors can haggle with microsoft for better volume licensing on Windows 7 netbook, including lifting those absurd hardware restrictions.

And I guess it wouldn't hurt to have plan B ready, because users aren't going to tolerate Windows performance on netbooks for long.
That's the whole point of "cloud computing": the computer in front of you doesn't have and doesn't need much computing power. This is not a new idea; the "dumb terminal" concept has been around for decades.
Sure, but responding to the parent, that's why people don't crawl Google, not the Robots.txt.

And incidentally, some of those searches are to find forms that it can stuff links into. My sites are constantly getting hit by botnets searching for Drupal comment forms. Luckily it uses a quirky URL format that's easy for mod_security to block.
Yet another Unix clone. Yawn.
Google groups ? Google Video ? Click-to-call ? Google notebook ?
someone else who reads daily WTF? :)

(more here; http://thedailywtf.com/Planning-for-the-Past.aspx)
Though you could end up with a load of URLs, titles, and a summary text, crawling google won't really get you to the important data in building a search engine.
No follow-on links, only a subset of the text, no referrals, etc.

Love the 'paradox' of the infinite spider loop, hadn't considered that before.
Without disagreeing with your broader point, Gmail is popular but far from "controlling the majority of free web-mail."
That may be so, but it's been a long time since I've mailed somebody at a yahoo address, gmail addresses are 13 per dozen in my contact list, and all of them are active as far as I can see.
But don't forget the part about "without due process." I think that in the future, we will definitely see the use of technology like this to read the minds of accused felons. I also predict the court will declare this perfectly consitutional, as your right to privacy is effectively waived given the right court order (and the motivating "probably cause").

TRULY innocent people will probably like this tech a lot.
Here's an angel term sheet from Basil Peters. Lots of good stuff on his site.
http://www.angelblog.net/Venture_Term_Sheets.html
10 Things We're Dying to Know About Chrome OS
I work for a startup in sv. successful. we are all linux, python, ruby. we are building our infrastructure from the bottom up, (no previous decisions we are locked into). The idea of doing _anything_ with microsoft is just completely alien... its like another world that is just not relevant to us. could you imagine if we were discussing a new service and one of our engineers said "lets buy a win server 2008 license and an IIS license and check that out" ha. lol. "and if we have any questions we'll just pull up some stuff on the microsoft knowledge center or msdevnet to figure out how to use it." LOL!!

(feeling is similar towards java, but java people are seen as more redeemable. but if you worked on java at HP, you are pretty much lost to us.)
So, some suggestions:

- Your business plan about your web search startup.
- correspondence / health records documenting some medical condition
- a personal diary where you admit to something embarassing

All of these - and true, they're created to illustrate the point so a little farfetched - would be a real problem in case google decided to take a more active interest in the contents of your various data stores.
* web based applications don’t require that much horsepower on the client end so it should be faster still*

I've heard this a lot and I simply don't buy it. Assuming that the apps are Javascript-based (which all of Google Apps are today), the overhead of the interpreted language is going to slow things down as compared to something compiled down to the metal.

It is possible that Google will go the route of using its NativeClient, but that'd be a pretty big departure.
I think it was more of a 'test' than an 'accident'.
About a month ago I couldn't find the free version, and it took a ton of hunting around to get to it.
I suspect they were measuring the drop in app sign-ups, or if people just would pay.

I'd be surprised if this type of accident would survive a month at google.
I'm not trying to claim the "internal representation" is somehow more correct or even prior-to the real #s, etc.; I do think (though admit I haven't proven) that a great many common examples of innumeracy can be explained by assuming the innumerate are using a "reals + infinitesimal" representation...which doesn't make the innumerate claims right, but possibly helps get at why they make those particular mistakes and not others.

In the previous post I was hoping to make (only) the following claims(s):

- in my experience, the theory "people who claim .9... != 1 are (unknowingly) equating .9... to 1 - delta" has explanatory power (in that the results of doing calculations with deltas are aligned with what these people claim)

- I suspect that the internal human numerical representation is often a cruder, less rigorous form of nonstandard analysis, and that the reason you encounter otherwise-smart people who won't budge on .9... != 1 is that for them the question goes straight to that internal representation

The just-so story for why I think the internal numerical representation is approximately real #s + some infinitesimal would go like this:

- small distances aren't reliably perceivable under natural conditions: if I have two identical 8L pots and one has 4L and the other has 4.001L in it I probably can't tell which is which visually; if I'm not in very controlled conditions artifacts of ambient lighting or perspective or variations in the pot material will overrule any perceivable visual difference between the two

- actions with nonzero actual effect often have no perceivable effect: if i have an 8L pot with 4L in it and I insert 1 ml from a pipette I probably can't see a difference even after the ripples settle down, but of course I will know that there's more water in the pot after I put some in than before

...and thus it'd make sense (at least for items with a continuous scale of size) to keep track of both:

- what size do I perceive this to be? (the real component)

- if I know extra information (eg: that I added a .001L) about the size does that information say that the actual size is going to be > or < the size I perceive it to be (the "infinitesimal" component)

...and it's not unreasonable that for ad-hoc, intuitive reasoning the mind would (roughly speaking) make the "correct" adjustments when combining size measurements (eg: (x + delta) + y > x + y, (x + delta) + (y + delta) > x + y + delta, (x + delta) + (y - delta) 'is a wash between' x + y, etc.)...after all even babies and animals apparently can do simple sums intuitively/automatically.
"Twiddla's API is crazy simple"
What's so interesting about the workforce training fund?
Key word here: "respond"

Obviously everything here is conjecture but looking at Microsoft's current line up what I see is a bunch of products designed around a competitor rather than a customer. I suspect this will be no different.

It seems like they're going off the old Microsoft playbook but someone forgot the second half of the strategy.

They've got the "Enter a growing market and pour a lot of money into it" down. Now it's time for someone to focus on the "Innovate so that your product is equal to or better than the competitor" part.
I think that maybe I've put my arguments forward in a bad way. I'll try from a different angle.

In business strategy there's a concept called complementary products. A complementary product is one that is one that makes your product more valuable the cheaper it is. Cars and gasoline is an example of this. Servers and software is another. The cheaper gasoline is, the more valuable a car is. The good strategy is to commoditize your complements, thus driving down price. This will put more value into your product. For instance, if you run Google you make software. Your interest is to comoditize servers, thus driving the price down. This makes your business more valuable because your complement has been commoditized. Indeed, this is exactly what Google is doing when they use standard boxes in large arrays instead of buying Sun servers.

My argument in the blogpost is similar. If Google can remove as many obstacles as possible, and commoditize their complementary products they will win. This is exactly what they are doing with this move. They are forcing their competitors into making a product that will make Google money. Google doesn't care (financially at least) about browsers and operating systems. They make their money on online apps and marketing. Their strategy is to make it as easy as possible to get online and use their services. The argument is underpinned by the fact that both are open sourced. They won't make Google any money directly, but they'll help tremendously in commoditizing OS'es and browsers.

Joel Spolsky has a post about omplementary products that explains the concept much better than I can ever hope to do: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/StrategyLetterV.html
If you need help with setting up your network printer with Ubuntu you can find dozens of avenues where you can get that answer (you could email me for instance, I'd be happy to help you ;) ), also, last time I did this myself the process was completely painless.

I realize that you are speaking tongue in cheek but it is a less than fortunate example.

Oh, and the offer to help is serious in case you really have that problem.
Strange title as the articles conclusion points directly to creating electricity from hydrogen for homes, rather than cars. That's the beauty of electric cars. For the most part they don't care what the source of their electricity is.
Maybe Google should enable the users to save their data to whichever place they wish. And the web OS, or the authorities who're running it should never have access to users data. The OS should just be the communication interface. Maybe this is utopian, but i guess its the right way to go from here.
startups are two a penny, a real relationship is worth a whole lot more.

Also, to every story there are two sides and we're hearing only one.
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Effortless?

You are currently using 1794 MB (24%) of your 7345 MB.

How can I "Effortlessly" move my 18,000 emails to another provider?

How can I "Effortlessly" replace my need to cater to Der Googlebot for the assurance of keeping happy my largest source of traffic?

All I'm saying is... if 3/4 of all toll free phone calls to American businesses were routed thru a single provider, that company would be regulated by the Government. I don't necessarily thing Google should be regulated, but I do think you are naieve if you think the existence of Google circa 2009 isn't as dangerous as Microsoft circa 1999.
since google chrome runs on microsoft windows, I think it would only be fair if microsoft internet explorer would be allowed to run on google chrome os (under the condition that ms would port it, which seems rather unlikely)
He's correct, this article isn't much more than a rehash of this very popular story from 2007: http://www.officialdatingresource.com/beware-the-dreaded-mys...
I can't believe it wasn't possible to do this all along!

I mean, what the hell.

Are you telling me that if I earn $50k at one job, but lose $25k with my LLC, the IRS wanted to tax me on the full $50k? Was, up until this ruling?

What the hell?

Generally speaking, the US is a good place for business. I know that. But I look at stuff like this, and then the self-employment tax on top of income tax, and I go: what?

Don't rules like that only punish good, honest people anyway?

I like how, at the end of the article, they mention that lots of people get out of the self-employment tax by showing their partner status in an LLC. WHAT? Is that legal? What does that even mean?!?
The denialists specifically deny the manned landings. They would assert that it is perfectly possible for robots to have placed the mirrors.
I've been wading through yet another needlessly complex 3rd party API, and I'm about to hit the breaking point.

I think that developers simply default to complexity when they can't think of anything better to do. When tasked with building an API for their thing, they'll look around for something to pattern it after, and do that. Unfortunately, the most visible APIs around are from Amazon, which all deal with cash money and therefore need to be super secure.

The end result is that we end up doing silly crypto tricks and parsing JSON just to embed somebody's widget onto a page. I figured I'd put forth a counterexample to show how simple a public API can actually be and still be useful.
That is gross margin on marginal cost of goods - not margin for the whole business.

And 30% is on the low side. I would consider 25% to be the bare minimum and 50% (i.e. double your money to be good)

So the rule of thumb is triple the landed cost of goods to get the retail price. Buy it for $30, sell it to retailer for $60 who sells it for $89.95 + tax and everybody is happy.
I would guess it's the compliment of:

http://www.google.com/linux
Quote: "I'm certain this is the beginning of the end for Ubuntu and Linux"

It's funny how ex-marketing dudes, who now call themselves "social media experts", write crap just for the sake of it.
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The other Google bombshell. Newspapers, please freak out now.
I logged into make that point _of Ubuntu itself_. Ubuntu was a new distribution at one time, launched in the face of existing popular options. If Ubuntu is wonderful, is it wonderful in spite of not rolling its ideas into the popular distributions at the time? Or is it wonderful precisely because it was able to decisively forge its own path?

And if so, why shouldn't that same logic apply to Chrome?
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What Google Would Do
I feel really strongly for this guy - clearly he has an awkward social problem (many people do to different degrees).

But I cant help feeling this is completely the wrong way to focus on improving things :( random social interactions is very infrequent to everyone. The kind of conversations he has forced in the last 15 days are very artifical. THe people he is talking too probably share all of the awkwardness he is feeling - which he then attributes to himself.

Humans dont interact like that - we build connections through familiarity etc. Where are the real friendships? That is what he needs to look at - they will be MUCH more beneficial IMO.
I have yet to see Google branded cell phones (based on Android). If this were to happen, then I would seriously question what Google's objective is from a business perspective. To shift directions and get into (old) businesses that are quickly heading towards commoditization is a step backwards.

Keep in mind, their core business is advertising and as mixmax has pointed out, they want to lower the barrier to access this advertising. Trying to convince users to switch operating systems seems to me a rather convoluted path to achieving this objective.
bendotc is right.

In the past 3 years X has improved tremendously. I recommend anyone check it out for themselves.
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Crawling groups would be interesting. What other archives of usenet are there?
Seconded: Arch Linux is pimp. It's like the best of Slackware and Gentoo combined.
There's another problem at work. We have many different teams at the BBC and if one needs a different version of a popular JS library, they need to ensure that this version can be loaded and not muck up other versions. Glow gives you that, something I'm not aware that any other JS library handles. The BBC Web site is huge and with so many different teams working on different projects, expecting all of them to march in lockstep with the same JS library versions is not realistic.

Disclaimer: though I work for the BBC, any views expressed are my own and not official BBC statements.
It would be ironic if they actually did the attack considering their current government website is about as sophisticated as a circa 1999 mom and pop e-tailer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_pluripotent_stem_cell
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But which market pays for its games?
i agree with you. the comment with the large number of votes is a fearmongering comment, while the comment that you are referring to is actually a technical comment (the kind that i think is more relevant at HN).
A Theory of Beautiful Code
But something happens when you say 'new operating system from google' instead of 'linux':
you no longer have trouble selling it to a random person in Best Buy.

The average person rarely understands the difference between an operating system, a browser and a search engine. And they're almost all pretty skeptical of FOSS, even after you explain it.

But most know, like and trust Google. And they know Google is fast and free. So when the Best Buy flunkie says it does the internet super-fast and the battery lasts longer, they're inclined to believe. There are no new concepts for them to tackle.

The up-side of a Google Operating System vs any other Linux distro doesn't really go to the user. It goes to the netbook vendor, who now has a far easier time moving Windows-less product and thus a stronger position when dealing with Microsoft.

Also, OS fragmentation is the logical end result of the web. The OS is still relevant, but it's not the main draw. So there's a lot of room for innovation, specialization and competition.

It's A Good Thing.
Congratulations. Most people wouldn't make it to day 1. And I mean that.

Your 30-day quest has sucked me in with your honesty and commitment...in process of reading from day 1...might take some time.

I really like your statement of how you are comfortable with introversion yet you would like to "add to who I am rather than to try and be someone I'm not"

> Do I think introverted is equivalent to being defective? God no. Knowing how to be an introvert brings with it a unique set of skills. Being able to be alone for extended periods and not needing external approval as much as the next person can be extremely freeing. However, not being sure how to relate to and talk with people can also be proportionately debilitating. So my ambition here is really formed of the desire to have more skills and add to who I am rather than to try and be someone I'm not.
nice - i'll check that one out. thanks
Thanks for your comment... You have a very good point that I'd like to make sure gets addressed. I'm gonna mark this comment so I can circle back around to it by the end of my 30 days.

Just so I can understand the context, are you coming from a similar POV as me or have you been fairly social most of your life? This isn't an attempt to invalidate your comment in any way but just so I can get a feel for what your perspective is based on.
Actually, jQuery has had support for having multiple versions of jQuery working, simultaneously, on the same page since August 2007:
http://blog.jquery.com/2007/08/24/jquery-114-faster-more-tes...

We introduced this functionality back then for precisely the reason you outline: Large organizations, coordinating on a single version of code, can be challenging. It's been working out really well so far. (It should be noted that this release likely happened before the work on Glow was even started.)

More details on the noConflict method can be found here:

http://docs.jquery.com/Core/jQuery.noConflict
http://docs.jquery.com/Using_jQuery_with_Other_Libraries
Since you seem to be well in the know about this whole project, how much of it would you attribute to NIH and how much to actual need ?
Sounds like the conclusion is that Chrome OS is Linux, but only in the strict sense - the kernel and not the distribution.
Talking to strangers and making it work is a GREAT social confidence builder. Doing it enough is a good way to learn what works and doesn't as well. I didn't read much of the original post but what he's doing is a GOOD thing.

As for the awkwardness, once he gets over that the other person will feel more at ease as well. Once he is at this point working the room at a conference, interacting with people he met through friends, etc. will be much easier.

Being social is a learnable skill, not something a few lucky ones are born with.
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The writer is spanish. Presumably, english is not his first language.
How about this example: I earn $500k in my job as VP HR at MegaCorp. I also own 50% stake (my wife owns other 50%) in : Lake Front Home rental LLC, Sail boat charter LLC, and Thoroughbred Riding LLC. All of those "businesses" my wife operates and have a tiny amount of sales but lose money hand over fist. Now do you think LLC losses should be able to offset regular income?
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Ok well stated. I think I got sidelined by the quote I threw up in the original posting (especially the browser war statement).

But the theoretical strategy that you state (the commoditization of the operating system) seems a bit "round about" for Google. In other words, I think it would be better for Google to really make their web browser into a new kind of web browser instead of creating an entirely new kind of operating system. Better yet, a web browser that enhances an existing operating system might be a better way to commoditize the OS.

It is possible that they have figured out a killer app for their new OS, but I suppose that's fuel for a separate discussion.
Since nearly the very beginning of Google proper (aka, not BackRub) they've had a separate search for government sites and for Linux. And also Universities... I vaguely remember both a University of Michigan and a Stanford search. (Larry Page was an undergrad at UMich).
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