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OS X has a pretty complete set ports tree from FreeBSD (http://www.macports.org/). I haven't found anything that didn't compile either from ports or from a tarball. You just need to know UNIX and not just Linux.
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The author seems to see Chrome OS as just another linux distro, and asks why not to take Ubuntu and make it better. But I don't think that's the case. They will just take the Linux kernel and build browser-based OS, which will be quite a different product from Ubuntu.

I am looking forward to this. It seems to me, no offense, that Linux just didn't win against Windows, and that doesn't seem to change in the next few years. Even on netbooks, most people preferred Windows Xp for $50 to a free Ubuntu, and Win7 is supposed to be even better. It seems to me that Ubuntu is just a niche product, while Chrome OS could have bigger appeal.
Huh?

They don't need application vendors to target Chrome OS in order for this to be a success - the whole point is that it just runs web apps, period.

Its targeted at consumers and netbooks, not those that want to run heavy duty, CPU-intensive applications. The whole idea of a netbook is to be small, light, quick, and primary a web browsing device.
Indeed the same argument could apply to any new distro - why not drop your ideas and go make Ubuntu better.

Answer: because that is not the point of Open Source.
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But in order to make the manufacturers interested, they would have to be convinced that the buyers would be satisfied with Linux. Considering the user experience of current Linux desktops, I'm not sure we will se that happen in the near future.
Just another Linux distribution.

If they want to do something useful, make me a command-line that supports images, links, etc and gives me an easy way to process XML.
Yeah, they definitely prefer the Apache license, but the "userspace" in Android mostly consists of Dalvik and a bunch of stuff written for it/on top of it. Since they're trying to save space, they went with a smaller libc and don't include much at all in the way of 'standard unix tools'.

In other words I don't think they care too much about gpl stuff since they built their own UI and bytecode interpreter where most of the action is anyway...
Yup, when the economy is down all the smart people rush back to science ;-).
Open Coffee is this Thursday, I'm sure that there'll be a lot of Pittsburgh's HN-ers there, right? I missed the last meetup.
ufhooo @30.. need to break the email..
> "It is very, very rare that a device comes to our labs--in fact, I don't think that it has happened--that we don't find a vulnerability,"

That's pretty surprising if he is talking about vulnerabilities that don't include making some kind of physical breach/connection to the ATM.
How could you stop them? Unless this OS is not built on the GNU toolchain.
He used to comment here, from time to time:

http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=davidu

Which is the only reason this article caught my eye.
Stranger than Fiction: The story of PostgreSQL and Online Poker
It is also interesting to think about this news in the context of FaceBook buying Parakey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parakey), though it is a web-based OS. IMO, given Google's array of applications, they are better suited to write a web-centric OS than FaceBook.
Jeez finally got through after about 20 tries... HINT: Try plurals... And the fourth is a bit unfair cuz it's not exclusively a geeks childhood toy...
sho - this article is clearly about politics. While almost all of us are interested in, and have opinions about politics, if we start posting them here, we'll quickly turn it into yet another ongoing internet flamewar about a subject that you can read about to your heart's content on other sites.
There's a long thread of conversation here that we can have another day.

I'd simply like to point out that you are using quite a bit of hyperbole. The Vietnam War did not "waste an entire generation" -- casualty figures were nowhere near that high. And "tearing the fabric of American society" sounds like something you'd hear in a political rally. American society's fabric -- whatever that means -- is doing just fine. Enough with the naval gazing.

When I run into phrases like that, either in other people or my own writing, it's a red flag that there's quite a bit of emotion lurking there somewhere. Just something for you to think about.
Not a problem with this article though. It's not even thought-provoking enough to start a flamewar.
Start with the wiki page but remember that the one thing that all agile teams do is _adapt_. So be careful you don't get in the mindset of "I have to do X, Y, and Z and then I'll be agile" Better to think of it like "I see from the literature and people I trust that X, Y, and Z work for a lot of teams. I should really try that on my next team to see how it does"

The worst offenders are people who are successful! Then they take the X, Y, and Z as gospel and try to make them fit on their next team, whether or not they make any sense at all. We get this "well, my last team was agile and we did X, so we absolutely must do X on this project!" That attitude usually ticks everybody off and is counter-productive. Don't be an agile zealot! It's a buffet, not a happy meal.

Remember -- always adapt, and use the literature as starting points for things to try on each project. Read lightly and spend more time experimenting and evolving. Agile is really simple, but people try very hard to make it complicated and screw it up. Beats me why.
Wild speculation: perhaps they are trying to get out in front of upcoming announcements on actual products to show they are working in this space too? The crunch pad is due out soon and Apple is also believed to have a product in this space as well. If they put this out there now, any publicity for similar products on blogs and news articles will also likely have a blurb that "Google has also announced they will enter this competitive space..."
I hate that when using OpenDNS on my computer if I ping a site that is down the ping is returned from another IP address. I am less bothered by if the site doesn't exist, they load the search page from OpenDNS I would expect that as they have no other way to make money.
> horrible ... unstable

Wow - completely opposite from my experience. What are you running on? I'm on Ubuntu 8.10 right now, using the nightly builds.

I've had a tab lock up once or twice, but in general it's very nice, way faster than FF 3.0, and pleasant to use. The key bindings are the only thing that seems a bit wonky, but I'm generally happy and at some point may start using it as my main browser, if FF 3.5 isn't significantly better.
3rd party apps/sites using api.fanfou.com worked for a few hours after the main site was shut down, but now that's blocked too

(EDIT: I couldn't access it from a foreign proxy either, so it seems it's been shut down rather than just blocked?)
what did you do at 29?
For an example of what the chromeOS might end up like, take a look at this:

http://www.thinkgos.com/index.html

Ironically, its called gOS which implies strong google connections and thats reinforced by the integration of all the google apps.

I think it boots up in a few seconds, only has a chrome-like browser running and custom launcher for certain apps.
I reached the same conclusion. It just doesn't make any sense. It's as if two different people wrote the entry.
Interesting, if somewhat longish read.
This was a total accident, where they were testing some new stylesheets and the free one got dropped by accident. It's back now.
Your first post is an insult, and you tell ME to read the guidelines on civility?
Hm. Well I agree completely, but I thought the main thrust of the article was to talk about democracy itself, a topic which is often covered here. I particularly liked the direct comparison to the free market - that it can only work as intended when the participants have, and are motivated to have, good information - an analogy I rather liked.

Where is democracy's equivalent to the SEC, and the FDA? Who ensures the consumer has the correct information? Who punishes those who would mislead? Maybe these aren't possible in a marketplace for ideas. But it's an intriguing idea.

The question of information - who has it, how they get it, why they aren't getting it, who this benefits - is of great interest to me, and I would have thought many of us; why is anyone here, if not to seek good information?

Anyway, I won't be offended if you flag it! I just thought it was interesting.
I think the author raises a valid point.

Back in the days, when Microsoft was the big, bad guy which everyone feared, not a monopolist, but the Monopolist, the One That Had To Be Stopped(tm), the current state of affairs was as following:

* Microsoft controlled the OS
* Microsoft had a Office suite
(and defacto control of interchange file-formats)
* Microsoft had a web-browser
* Microsoft has a mobile platform
(with support for the Office file formats and little else)

Now let's take a look at Google whose ass everyone seems collectively interested in kissing:

* Google controls the majority of all web search
* Google controls the majority of free web-mail
* Google apps not only makes it their software
but they also control your data
* Google also has access to your local data
albeit only if you use Google desktop search
* Google tracks users everywhere on the web
Google analytics lets them know what you are doing and why
* Google has a browser
* Google has a mobile OS
Oh! And it in ties closely with all of Google's services
* Google has a closed platform for application hosting
Again they have total access to all your data

And now Google wants to make a desktop OS to further make sure they control every part of your daily activities.

But I guess it is entirely unproblematic that they can track your every activity wherever you are, on whatever device you are and whatever platform you are using. They are the good guys, right?

And it's not like they have lock-in on the file-formats you use, they just have lock-in on your actual data. I mean who cares about that?

After all they are using web-standards to do the stuff they do, so it can't be bad, right?

Edit: Posts like this makes me wish HN had markdown support for unordered lists allready.
Wait, you mean that my yellow ink consumption is artificially high because of some serial numbering scheme secretly put on my printer?

Class action lawsuit anyone?
You don't seem to have any inside knowledge whatsoever, you're just making assumptions and stating them as fact. Which is why you got down-modded.
I switched back to Firefox for security reasons and because Chrome turned out to be really slow re-rendering tabs that haven't been visited for awhile. Not too enthused about a whole OS but I suppose that might be one answer to the security problems.
I love how this link is prefaced with "Arrington: " as if that provides credibility
Check out http://docstoc.com - they probably have several.
paternity tests can be used to rob unwitting men if someone decides to create a child without their knowledge

This would be a problem with the law, not a problem with the science.
I tried to make it, I really did, but the stories and other stuff up front made it impossible. I made it through one scroll and, by that point, I had found nothing interesting about Postgre or online poker and I bailed. Now that I come back here and see that this was submitted by "4chan4ever", I feel a bit dirty for having visited.
The only way Google can make good on their promises of it just working, being virus free etc, is if they lock it down more than Apple did the iPhone.

General purpose computing device, or a Google Terminal? That's your choice.
Yes thanks Google, we've got Ubuntu and we want more options.

Better options.
You're not the only one: http://deals.venturebeat.com/2009/07/08/how-googles-chrome-o...
Too little, too late.

We will never forget.
I like http://crazyegg.com
solution (if you dont trust them).

dont use Google, it's perfectly possible to do so.
Right, because they're going to release it with some half-baked install of their browser...
and it follows then that women will be able to carry their own clones too..
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I could develop a new netbook OS over a weekend.

(Joke. Please don't downvote me again, I'm already at -5.)
Yes, they can, but it is not as robust as X. Now and then you have to reboot the whole OS to reset the windowing system.
The Mac software updater actually runs weekly in the background, it just doesn't bother you in case no updates are available.
Chrome OS: But Will it Run Photoshop?
Prediction: Google and Apple go to War.
Google most definitely does not control email. Yahoo mail has many more users.
the username is the computers name and the password is the year it was completed. Wikipedia's not really accurate on that last count, so try google.
Do these "watermarks" survive a photocopying?

If not: print out one copy and photocopy from it as many as you need before destroying the original.
I typed them two IP addresses in myself because Embarq's DNS was so shitty. Daily outages shitty.

Verisign abused their power and jacked the internet.

How are these things the same?
I concur. I've become more and more aware of the looming Google benevolent giant, but one day that giant's going to get angry and by that point it may be too late.

That being said, I still use Gmail, Google Docs, Google Reader, Analytics, and other services. So I'm not exactly avoiding the apocalypse here.
Most of it did come from outside of CA but a decent amount of it did come from CA. I'm not saying this is a great idea under normal circumstances-just these circumstances.
Recursively cool.
City accounting system set to crash
Name Frequency vs Year Interactive Chart: caution, timewaster potential is high
Will I be able to run Internet Explorer on Chrome OS?

Edit: People can't take a joke. lol
We're all doomed to carry around thousands of pounds of 3G connected MRI.
What I think is interesting is that having a hard time choosing something other than Windows may have been quite benevolent in comparison with a Google-situation which turns ugly. What if there is an organisation that has all your email, all your documents, all your appointments and all your conversations and can follow the majority of your surfing via ads. What if this resource suddenly is too tempting to keep hands away from for "fighting terrorism" or something such.

Being forced to use Windows at work could be considered nice in comparison.

I don't think that anyone at Google set out to be evil. But power corrupts and the legal systems and governments have not exactly struck up a fight for privacy for the individual the last couple of years.
Taken a little bit too literally. I meant that he should share his dilemma with her. How she is a very important part of his life but so is the startup. However even if taken literally I doubt she would react the way you are saying. From what he's said she sounds like a tech literate person and may have even posted a question of her own somewhere on the tubes.
An excellent example of the need for #5 on "Startup Ideas We'd Like to Fund"

http://ycombinator.com/ideas.html
See, but it is not a one size fits all kind of thing. If you have an iphone or ipod or a mac, you also have freebsd. If you have other cellphones, you have another os. And his thinking is influenced by the system administrator point of view.
I'm running this on a Asus EEE 901 with Ubuntu Netbook remix running the nightlies.

My biggest issue is how the latency of the browser seems to vary between milliseconds and two-digit seconds. Performance is randomly varying over three orders of magnitude and that kind of performance instability is worse than performance being consistently "slow".

As for Firefox 3.5: It is much better.
I was silly, and ran it in chrome.
Are adult stem cells equivalent to embryonal ones?

From how I understood it, they just separated germline cells from very early embryos and let them develop into sperm in an incubator (that is, these germline stem cells would anyway develop into sperm, if left in the embryo).

While this is certainly interesting, for "curing" infertility, wouldn't you still need to find a way how to turn adult stem cells into germline stem cells?

This seems like equivalent problem to "growing hearts in a vat".
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Michael Jackson’s Online Memorial Pushes Internet’s Limits
its a beautiful site
In short, Wang says, the browser needs to act more like Windows does

Please don't !

Considering the time it took them to have a somewhat secure Windows, considering the poor usability of their security features : this would be a disaster.
What I find more troubling is this notion that variety (or fragmentation as they call it) is bad.

They very clearly state it is an OS geared for low-resource netbook style computers, where browsers are up and running within seconds of pressing the on button. We don't have one of these yet, afaik.

Why not work with Ubuntu? It's geared to be the Windows of Linux, an all-round competitor and jack of all trades. In my mind, this would be stupid. That's like the original Ubuntu developers getting grief because they weren't building on some other distro, which may have been built with a different use in mind.

I like using Unix for my server, Win7 for my home laptop, and hopefully giving a stable version of Chrome OS a swing down the line on my girlfriend's netbook. If anything, it sounds like they want to build "down" from ditro's such as Ubuntu, not up. I'd rather not use a baseball bat in a game of tennis. Variety is a good thing.
Mozilla Firefox is completely independent and not pushing anyone's agenda

I'm not sure that this is strictly true. The majority of the revenue from Firefox comes from the search deal with Google.

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/mozilla-extends-lucrati...
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Don't forget 20x the RAM.
There is no lock-in with Google, and that makes all the difference.

Switching to a different provider of search, email, website statistics, ads, browser, etc, is not only possible — it is effortless.

Google haven't made alliances with other vendors to make it hard or even uncomfortable to use a competitor's product in either market. Quite the contrary, many of their services provide means of exporting my data, unlike many of their competitors.

Google does not dominate either one of those markets due to having leveraged dominance on another market, forcing the end-user's choice. I do not have to use Gmail just because I use Google for searching, it is just as easy to use any other email provider instead. Same thing goes for ads, browser, etc.

As long as Google's services continue to be free of lock-in and either one are easily switched out for a competitor's product, I'll be comfortable using their various services in spite of dominance in various markets.
So if lesbians could reproduce...and they could only have daughters...and if it turns out there's a genetic predisposition towards lesbianism...

This is probably a completely ridiculous idea, but I wonder if men might someday be weeded out by "natural" selection.
Notice that he says userspace apps will not be GPL'ed.
Cyber attack knocks out government Web sites
I am too dumb / lazy to think of an example for the fibonaccy numbers at the top of my head. But suppose your problem was giving a list of natural numbers, then giving a circular definition like

> naturals = 0 : (map (+1) naturals)

actually works in Haskell.

(In Haskell a:b means the same as (cons a b) in Lisp. I also added parens to make the definition more readable for non-Haskellers.)
One word: games. Consoles have really stepped it up, but a lot of people still use Windows at least partially because of hardware accelerated 3D gaming. I don't see that being Google's netbook OS focus, or many people porting such things to web apps, obviously. Unless they have some secret alliance with OnLive ;-)
Have highly flammable plants actually evolved to cause fires?
Why? Male couples should be able to reproduce in the same way --- given enough money to rent out a womb (or the technology to create one). As an added bonus they can also create females.
Yes! Thank you for capturing more of what I could feel in my gut, but could not bring to words when composing my comment.

I don't think that anyone at Google set out to be evil. But power corrupts and the legal systems and governments have not exactly struck up a fight for privacy for the individual the last couple of years.

I also see scenarios where Google never becomes corrupted by power, but by government mandate a la Patriot Act is forced to reveal content. I don't like that there appear to be many plausible ways where the whole situation could end up generally bad.
However soup of sperms has less structure than a heart. So it might be easier to grow.
"Politicians are after votes, not money."

HA!
Much anticipating that "new windowing system". If you wonder why Linux has never claimed the desktop, look no further than X.
pg also suggested this, http://ycombinator.com/ideas.html (number 27)

Given how hard I found it to find a decent alarm clock that didn't totally suck in terms of usability, I agree. I've also had 3 digital TV receivers that all were atrocious too.

Only word of warning would be to read Alan Cooper's inmates are running the asylum first, he has some spot on observations about how modern electronics are treated like computers (e.g. ovens that are hard to use, even though the old analog design, a dial with markings on, worked)
But they're both true, aren't they? With open source software, it's all there for you to see and use, in all its awesomeness. No pure-marketing limitations. Yet despite that advantage, it doesn't always rise over paid competitors because it's often such a pain to use.

The two opinions are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
I think the problem is that a 2009 browser will not be able to notice that the HTML8 it's seeing is potentially beyond what it can do. With versions, a check for versions above 5 could produce a message that says that some parts might not display properly.
Most of the media don't have enough knowledge to get the story straight (remember that Lewis was once a bond trader), they just find the angle with the most emotional impact and drive it into the ground with very little regard for the actual facts. The politicians either don't realize how incorrect the reporting is, or can't be bothered to try to correct the oversimplifications and explain the real truth to voters, who are most likely to undereducated to understand it anyway. It's much easier for them to ride the wave of outrage in the direction of the nearest camera and then pound the table about how angry they are and how someone needs to do something about it and how they are people that will do it, even though some of them (such as Barney Frank) bear a share of the responsibility because they pushed the idea of better access to credit for "under served" (i.e. high risk) potential home buyers and because they blocked improved regulations at the GSEs that might have shut down some of the irresponsible lending.

Has anyone seen any good articles with an overview on what went wrong at Fannie and Freddie? I've seen bits and pieces but for the most part the silence is deafening.
That's an interesting article, although I don't particularly agree with the conclusion.

As an aside, I think "No matter how hefty the investment, the odds of success are high" is a typo. In its context, this would seem to go against the author's main point (namely, that opportunities are better on the hardware side of things). But the author is there speaking of software... and aren't high odds good odds?