skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Am I the only on that thinks this is a bit of an overreach? Seems to me, good justifications for legislating would be

-If customers were being tricked into paying roaming charges in nefarious ways;

-If there were serious externalities somehow not being included in the roaming charge transaction

-If there were monopolistic / market manipulating behaviour going on.

-If the companies were subject to a tragedy-of-the-commons situation where private resolution was not feasible (they're not- the public broadcast spectrum is both rival and excludable in practice).

Instead, the state interest according to Kroes is that it's an "irritant." This kind of top-down control seems a bit counter to the hacker/startup ethos.

Edit: if you're going to down vote, please can you comment and have a dialogue?
The only concern is to disable \write18 which is the TeX primitive command for access to the OS. This is easily disabled in a make up file or by recompiling the .exe pdflatex or similar. Really this is not a concern. The major issue with online editors is slow compilation.
exactly my point, but I could have probably been more explicit!
What would we gain by raising the age of consent?
> One of the most disruptive ideas the EU is working on (among alternatives) is detaching the network utilizes operators.

Since i was quite young it blew my mind that we didn't have one universal network which every network utilises. It is clearly more efficient, removes redundancy, spreads costs.
You can add Whatsapp to that list, in Hong Kong at least. It's the dominant messaging app here and the company claims 50% penetration, although it's not clear by what measure.

WeChat and Line are definitely growing though. Not sure about elsewhere, but they've both been marketing pretty aggressively of late with TV and print commercials, billboards, store promotions etc.
You won’t find an angel in a dragon’s den
You're just projecting your gendered bias here.
The last time I asked my doc said using a standing desk will probably ruin my back and/or knees. At least if I do it for any significant period of time (I usually use mine only if I work together with a collegue on one machine. Space is a bit cramped for two chairs then).
Three in the UK clearly saw this coming and recently made roaming in several countries completely part of your monthly package
As a resident in Denmark, this is awesome news. It really sucks that you've got so many internet connected things, but after 300km MAX, you are on the other side of the border, and you are reduced to feature phone-like capabilities (Thanks Nokia/HERE for offline maps).

To people from US; Imagine living on the east coast (with the smaller states) and every time you move outside of your state, you had to use a feature phone.
These laws are designed to deter adults from preying on children (i.e. exploiting their relative inexperience, immaturity, financial dependence etc.) This is a good thing.
Also doesn't work on the NY Times. For example, none of this article's text displays after clicking the bookmarklet: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/americans-go-to-gre...
> An exception is made in the case of consensual sex with someone under 16 "when the other party is of a similar age or stage of development and maturity", a loose concept that judges will have to define on a case-by-case basis.

Did you read the article, or do you not trust the judges to make good calls on this?
> There is unlikely to be a high level of cooperation... without significant internal restructuring

Internal restructuring like, say, Andy Rubin beyond deposed as head of Android and replaced by the guy in charge of Chrome (Sundar Pichai), who now oversees both Chrome and Android? Because that happened in March.

(Chrome is the default browser in nexus devices. Whether it's the default in non-nexus devices is up to the manufacturer & carrier, who usually choose to use the AOSP browser - an unbranded front end of the system webkit - because they can control and customise it, which they obviously can't with chrome as a branded google app that's updated through the play store).
About time... companies like 3 and vodafone are basically the same network all over Europe, there is no justification for any roaming charges
That is the problem, not raising the consent age.

But well, it is the PP who we are talking about. The Spanish traditional hypocritical right catholic moral.
If Matt protested, he did so quietly/privately. I wasn't aware of the fact that he had stepped down until the authors of the paper described in http://factorable.net showed up and pointed out we had a really bad problem for embedded devices on the internet. I had always assumed he had gotten too busy and distracted on other interests, since I do follow LKML, and I didn't see any kind of public debate/controversy about the change to the random driver described above.

If I had to guess what happened, some intel people pushed this as a feature, probably pushing it via one of the x86 git trees, and Linus either (a) didn't notice, or (b) didn't understand the implications, and then Matt quit in a huff --- by just stopping to do work, and not even updating the entry in the MAINTAINERS file. (That didn't happen until I took over the random driver again.)
Ha, then I'm safe. I equally dislike the situations you describe, so I do not subject others to it either.
If you're on the young side of 30, beware! The ability to stay slim without effort is something you may lose. Like many people, I stayed thin effortlessly in my twenties but really started packing on the pounds right around 30. I gained enough weight (I was technically obese according to BMI) that it took me a couple of years to get fit again. I have to really watch what I eat and exercise religiously to stay fit now.

Having been fat, do I look down on the fat? Actually, I do. I know how hard it is to get fit and stay fit, but there are so many benefits I can't imagine not doing it. I felt horrible when I was fat. My knees and back gave me trouble. I felt slow and lethargic. I was afraid to play sports, go hiking, etc. (Hello feedback loop!). My dad (who is fat) developed type 2 diabetes and had some minor heart trouble, so I likely had that to look forward to on top of everything else! Losing weight/getting fit made all that go away. I could easily kick my twenty-something self's ass at just about anything now and that feels awesome. I take full advantage of this. I get out into the mountains and reap the benefits!

Consciously, I think it'd be great if they came up with a pill that made people stay thin and fit without effort (the bacteria in the linked article has the potential to help with just one of these, maybe). Subconsciously I think I'd resent it if people could get the benefits I've worked hard for with zero effort. That implies a certain amount of pride in being fit I suppose, but it's natural to be proud of hard work. Perhaps if you had to work harder to stay thin you'd be a little more smug yourself.
It may have some positive effects but still: why remove sex education from the curriculum?
Aren't there also at least one other stream processing framework running atop Hadoop / HFS ?

Edit:
Guess I was thinking about spark[1] but it doesn't really fit.. others?

[1] http://spark.incubator.apache.org/
I don't know about the situation in most of Europe, but I think at least some countries could be severely disrupted by French operators, which seen some very low cost alternatives emerge since the irruption of a 4th operator in early 2012.

2h + SMS only costs 2€/mo, where it used to be 16-25€ only two years ago ; and the full package (unlimited everything, with data bandwith capped after 3GB) 20€

Now if there's a country with even cheaper mobile plans... I'd like to see that
Perhaps ... but it was a propaganda victory, at most:
http://cynical-and-depressing.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/is-mass...
> Am I the only on that thinks this is a bit of an overreach?

Not a all. Vodafone, Telefonica and Orange completely agree with you.

> Instead, the state interest according to Kroes is that it's an "irritant."

The state interest is the people's interest. Roaming charges are not in the user's interest:

1. It's very easy to be hit by roaming charges in Europe if you're not careful, many countries can be gone through in an hour or three and since Schengen moving across borders has become an habitual past-time.

2. The charges are not fair and not about costs these days, they're about free money, notice how the operators which have issues with that are present or have partnerships in pretty much all of the EU? A roaming user doesn't cost them much, but it earns them a lot.

3. Roaming charges are especially problematic with modern "always connected" smartphones, forgetting to disable data roaming (if you can even do so) is common, and the charges for data roaming are completely crazy.
> "Ghandi Buck" (sorry, guys, but it helped me remember the relative value, and it does have Ghandi's picture on it -- just like every other denomination)

Apologies if I am pedagogical but it is "Gandhi" and not "Ghandi".
Before the new law, two 15 teens can have sex. With the new law, one of them can sue the other, yap, a great advancement.
There's a good Wikipedia entry on the pub, handsome in paper. My subscription lasted forever it was so irregular.
Don't walk on street, eat greens, go to your room, no telly, stop shouting, I will kick you ass if you will not shut up now!

We have so big taxes, government is spying on us, I can't drive around without insurance/tax. Only thing I receive from doctor is antibiotics. Boss says I am stupid.

I think this is fine, nothing would be in place if we did not want it, strive for it, or is it?

Any healthy thinking human should go to forest and die.
If people could survive without breathing they would do so. It's an added inconvenience.
I'd use it as background noise at work if it wasn't for the sudden alarm sounds for issues.

I also couldn't click to change the sound set: the popup thingy disappeared when I tried to click it.
I just tried the first part of this (the ssh multiplexing) and instead of getting faster, 'git fetch' got slower (1.9 to 2.4 seconds). Any ideas why, and how I can debug/improve it?
read the other posts. Most operators are present everywhere, it's just free money for them without any justification - that really hinders users in the process.
Why socks go missing my theory
> We've evolved as a society. It's the same reason women and minorities can vote.

One could give the same defence for global surveillance. "We have changed to do X" does not necessarily mean that X is a good thing. (Often it is, but in those cases we generally do X because it is good, X is not good because we do it)
I agree that the best scenario would be one carrier simply dropping roaming charges and other carriers eventually following suit, because of market pressure. However, the fact that this hasn't happened makes me suspect that carriers are mutually agreeing not to drop roaming charges since it is such a big cash cow for them. I have no evidence for this, though.

(didn't down vote you btw)
There is monopolistic/market manipulating behaviour going on - it's basically an oligopoly, and the barrier to entry into the mobile telecoms market (ie building your network) is only growing.
It makes it far easier to prosecute people who prey on teenagers. I don't disagree that two under 16 year olds having sex is perfectly natural and ok, though not everyone agrees. But with the age of consent being 13 sexual predators could easily seduce under 16s and claim they consented when in fact being so young they had no idea what they were doing.
I didn't doubt it existed, I doubted that it was publicly available.
But the servers have to process the emails in some sense, they've got to read the headers for a start. They also must touch and process the body of the email. You simply cannot process emails without "opening them up", such a comparison makes absolutely no sense.
I guess you mean young-earth creationists? It's easier for them to swallow than evolution because it doesn't so directly threaten their beliefs. And it doesn't need to be a total rejection; they can disregard tons proof of the age of the universe and still know enough math and engineering to make, say, microprocessors.

Of course you must have read claims like "the speed of light changes over time" and "all that light was created en-route 6000 years ago". This allows them to believe a ridiculous premise but still participate in reality and use their GPS with a clean conscience.

But I think there are many creationists who can reconcile their differences with reality by believing the seven days of creation are a metaphor or some sort of measure in "God years", so they can reject evolution like they were brainwashed to, but they have no problem believing in the speed of light and measurements of distances between stars.
You are lucky. I am working on a ~80 page report and it takes 40 seconds for a new word to appear.
I just wish the internet wasn't under the control of American people. Americans can't be trusted to respect other people's rights.
Extensible Effects - An alternative to Monad Transformers (Oleg)
Or "The cracked versions are backdoored! Use the official trial and crack it using the method I supplied to be safe", if you can't afford the hefty $2500 price tag due to not being a professional hacker/pentester.
> I just wish some similar agreement can be reached (in time) with countries outside the EU.

Intercontinental roaming charges are a bad joke (3$ incoming, 5$ out and yes, that's per minute) . What I do is to get a local SIM and communicate the number to those contacts that need it.

Internet (sometimes 20$ per MB and yes, you read that right) is less of a problem due the ubiquity of free WLANs.

Another really excellent thing the EU did is to mandate mini USB as phone chargers. With the noticeable exception of Apple every newer phone can be charged with any newer charger. This used to be a major pet peevee of mine.
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-If there were monopolistic / market manipulating behaviour going on.

If the market was operating efficiently roaming charges wouldn't be so high. They are high which discourages use and so is a drag on the whole economy (apart from the telcos).

If we left everything to the free market we would have the same problems the US has with it's telecoms infrastructure. Communications, just like other utilities are too important to the economy for governments to ignore.
Not really - no roaming charges doesn't mean it's not more expensive to call people from other countries.

So if you have a number in France, but you call mostly UK people, it will still cost you more than if you had a UK number - it just won't cost you more if you're calling them from France than if you're calling them from the UK.
Oh fucking please. This is about adults having sex with teenagers, not teenagers having sex with one another:

> An exception is made in the case of consensual sex with someone under 16 "when the other party is of a similar age or stage of development and maturity"
Also, it's not like advertisement doesn't work within an anonymous environment. There's still a lot of information to use: the main topics of the community, for example. TV, radio and newspaper advertisement worked fine for decades. Web services can be created with significant less resources than TV stations and newspapers, but we are meant to believe that they are only viable if users relinquish their anonymity? Give me a break.

Businesses will try to make as much money as possible within what users tolerate. I mostly stopped going to the cinema because I don't feel it's acceptable that I pay a ticket and then have to sit through at least 1/2 hour of advertisement. But many people still tolerate that so they keep doing it.
Why do you say you have to be a successful businessman or else be bought and paid for to accumulate that much? We're at the tail end of a decades long stock market boom and a decades long boom in housing prices. My parents have a $1.5m house in Virginia. My dad started with a $120k house and traded up a couple of times over 25 years. It was just a great time to be a professional with a little bit of cash flow. No need to sell a startup to Yahoo or take any bribes!

Looking at it another way, the median net worth of freshman congressmen is $1m. Do you think you need to take bribes and engage in dirty insider trading to double that in 10-15 years?
> stop treating young boys and girls as immature idiots

Most adults I know are immature idiots. I include myself there. Durr durr.

> You might be surprised how capable and responsible they could grow up.

Indeed I would be surprised if that happened. Note though that when you say "could grow up" you yourself are implying that they are not "capable and responsive" at the present time.

> Do we want to live in a world when one power should be powerful enough to project its own moral norms to all the others?

Yes. And you too. I just happen to agree with the current power on this particular issue.
Opus Dei.

Edit: many PP (now the governing party) officials are in the sect. It has a lot of influence. Also the bishops. Abortion laws projected regression is another painful example.

Anyway society is overwhelming against those measures. PP won elections because the bad economy, not that they have fixed anything. Social politics is the "tax" we have to pay.
I'd say University fetishism is localized to certain areas of the US, too. I've lived on both the west coast (Seattle, San Diego, Colorado) and east coast (Boston). In Boston, where you go to school matters....a lot, likely due to Harvard and MIT being here, along with several other universities. When I lived on the west coast, it didn't matter nearly as much and I felt that I had an easier time getting hired at certain types of jobs.
That is a good point, a separate issue but one which must be pointed out.

It's weird that the Guardian tucked that at the end of the article instead of reverting them and putting the destruction of sex ed' as the main title.
What timing! I have been making this exact thing myself.

Would you be interested in pull requests making your api simpler? Maybe allow parameters to not have to have shapes? Perhaps allowing a syntax that allows a simple way to shapes in the meta alongside the ability to change the signature for people who don't want to couple too tightly to the library? When I showed mine to my local user group last month, that was one of their biggest requests (that I was in the middle of on mine but would be happy to attempt in yours).

Check my (simpler and more immature) library here
https://github.com/steveshogren/deft
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That doesn't seem to happen to everyone; I'm turning 38 this year, and so far my body doesn't look or feel much different from when I was in college (still no real propensity to store fat).

I eat healthily, anyway (little caffeine/alcohol, and a well-balanced diet), because I feel better this way, and just looking fit is a bit useless if I die of a heart attack at 55 anyway, or feel like crap because of poor nutrition.

Skinny people with poor diets may stay skinny anyway, but their health is still going to be affected in other ways.

I still have huge respect for people who manage to make serious changes to their eating habits, or eat fewer calories than their bodies want (i.e., just withstand some level of hunger on a daily basis).
If you live near a border, and the 'foreign' network mast is closer than your 'national' one, and has a stronger signal, you might be 'roaming' while at home.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error

People generally make the choices that their circumstances dictate. If many people are falling into obesity because it is easy to do so, writing them off as "lazy" doesn't help anyone; it just makes you sound like an asshole.
I didn't downvote but would like to comment either way. I think this is exactly something the EU should be doing. The EU is largely about breaking the borders between all these smaller countries and making trade and travel between these countries easier for EU members. Although the ease of trade and travel have certainly improved massively (no more need for passport controls, one currency for the Union), I think these mobile roaming costs are actually quite a big problem.

In the current situation, as a customer, when I'm on holiday in another EU country I have three options for using my iPhone on the go:

1) Shelling out for roaming costs, which are expensive, extremely untransparent, and seem very arbitrary. What are these costs for? Who determines what the right price is?
2) Buying a SIM-card in the country of my destination, which is cheaper but also prevents me from using my own phone number while abroad
3) Not using mobile data at all and hoping for free WiFi at my hotel or in the nearest village (which is what I do)

Removing roaming costs altogether means I can freely drive to France for a two-week holiday and use Google Maps or check my email on my iPhone, all within my normal data bundle, without the risk of getting a bill of a few hundred Euro.
Before the new law, one of them could already sue the other under all kinds of pretenses. Does not mean it will hold.
The question should never be "What's the benefit of NOT prohibiting something" - that's why we call it a free society.

That being said, I think that the spanish law is rather reasonable by not strictly enforcing 16 and allowing exceptions when everyone is about the same age.
IMHO that is one problem with the age of consent: There need to be exceptions for cases where both teenagers are about the same age.
E.g. what happens when a 15yo boy wants to have consensual sex with his 17yo girlfriend? What when she is 18yo? What happens when they have sex and afterwards his parents find out and call the police?
Communication has become so essential to daily life, that having access to communication networks is as import as having access to water or electricity. Communication has become infrastructure, some might argue a human right and that changes the rules that apply to it.

Letting providers do as they want without restraints does not create desireable outcomes, as can be clearly seen right now. So it's necessary to apply some restraints that do create those desireable outcomes.
(off topic)

I re-upvoted you.

I utterly disagree with your reasoning, but downvoting HN contributors for having a different opinion should really be beyond us and there's nothing in your post, which warrants downvoting.
Sadly, there is no creation or modification of hardware using the interface. I can see why, it's extremely hard to use CAD etc with a mouse and keyboard, let alone creating an interface just for hand movements.

Impressive, only because they added hardware such as the Oculus Rift, but it's almost the same as the DNA demo for Leap Motion.
There's a good section in freakonomics which casts light on realtors. About how they don't try that hard.

Getting an extra $10000 on your house won't earn them much more commission but makes a lot of difference to the seller.
If I understand it correctly they're more likely to be on the buyer's side than the seller's.

It makes more sense to them to get sellers to accept the first offer so they can move on to the next sale.
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