skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I think you'll be surprised at what openness can do when it is competing on a level playing field (or close to it). In the second (16 bit) personal computer war, the PC compatible won not because it was better, or cheaper, but because it was more open than Apple, Atari, and Commodore machines. And, you can't get any more open than Open Source. The fact that the OS here is free for manufacturers, and very nearly as good in every way as the iPhone OS, means that manufacturers will do the marketing for Google. They have to market their phones already...Samsung tried to convince us that the Instinct was as awesome as an iPhone, and spent millions doing it. Nobody was fooled because the Instinct is a Windows mobile device, and it actually sucks really hard. But it won't be long before there are a half dozen really good Android phones, and at least some of those manufacturers will push it as hard as the Instinct was pushed. And, in the case of Android phones, consumers won't be deeply disappointed by what they see.

Microsoft didn't have to advertise DOS or Windows very aggressively to beat Apple, Commodore and Atari back in 1985 and 1986 (when the market leader for the next twenty years was being decided and it was all still up in the air) in the market. Their army of OEMs did it for them.
I agree.

Nuh-uh. This style guide says "Agree: things are agreed on, to or about, not just agreed." So, bizarrely, "I agree" or "We agree" are not valid, despite any good dictionary saying otherwise.

Of course, this could be because it's a style guide and most people here seem to have missed that point ;-)
Same issue here (using Chrome 2 as well :D). However for me the slider stayed at the earliest time but the updates appeared correctly in real time.
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Sneakers. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakers_(film)
Decent flick.
I think its unfortunate that more don't.
It looks as though the logo was designed by a programmer. I, for one, would not hire a designer to program. I don't see why it ought to work so much better the other way around.
For better or worse, I wrote a blog about your site. Hope you don't mind the critique. :)
http://slapstart.com/2009/06/iconfu/
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I'm amused to see that someone is trying to sell this. The code has been around for a while, but I don't really see the audience.

Redhat, Novell, etc., aren't going to support this. Not as long as they aren't the ones providing the patches. So larger corporations aren't going to want to purchase this.

If you have a server that absolutely cannot be rebooted, that probably means it's serving a significant amount of traffic 24/7. Of course, most shops like this probably have redundant servers... so rebooting is not, in fact, a problem.

Maybe servers that are taking real-time measurements? And connected to the internet?
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Thanks for the recap. I'm not close by any HN meetups right now, so these kind of recaps will definitely interest me.
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Is this the end, or the beginning? I could definitely see an open source project based on it if the full source were released.
Fights are most bitter when the stakes are low. Let's face it, the value supposedly comes from the quality of the answers rather than the questions...although from the site owners perspective, the questions are time candy which keeps the users hanging around the website.
I am a Linux sysadmin for a large company and I can say, without any hesitation, that we would love this! In our case, there aren't _that_ many systems that "absolutely cannot be rebooted" but scheduling a reboot on any system does take significant time and effort.

Why don't you think that the Linux vendors won't support this? I can see it taking some time to be introduced, but there'll be a lot of corporate customers out there who would be interested in this and, as long as the process of generating a new patch doesn't take too long, I can't see any reason why this process can't be used by the commercial Linux vendors.
They are scraping from the web and removing links in the scrape.
The iPhone ecosystem will be hard for Android to reproduce. It goes beyond marketing communication. What about books for end users? The Genius Bar, comprehensive self-help materials online, your friends who all have the same phone? Desktop contact and calendar sync? The iTunes music and app stores?

All these ecosystem components require a critical mass of customers to make them practical. This will be hard to achieve when the customers are spread out over dozens of devices that are all a little bit different.

Even if Android never catches up with iPhone in popularity and ecosystem quality, it could still be worth developing for. Marvell's Sehat Sutardja, quoted in the article, points out, "There could be two billion smartphones. The proprietary operating systems could have one billion phones. That means half of the phones will be open source." And I would certainly rather have my washing machine running Android than Windows CE.
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It may be their internal style guide, which is fine for them to have, but the submission title is still bogus.
very nice interface. thanks for adding #cricket. :)
Etherpad is looking awesome. Seems like a good decision to concentrate on that, especially if companies are wanting to pay already :)
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Kurzweil does not claim to know what will happen. I have read several of his books and he mostly seems to talk about how these trends will cause major changes. He then outlines more than one possible outcome. And, he more cautiously says what he thinks may happen. I think his analysis is a little too simplistic in places, but that he is likely to be right about the general trends.

If you are interested in learning more, I recommend "The Singularity is Near". Or, for free, go to http://singinst.org/media/singularitysummit2008 and download videos from the conference last year.
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Just the idea of a plane vanishing, gone, with well over 200 people on board, boggles the mind. No distress calls?

I can only imagine the sudden chaos that erupted.

Technology v. Nature.
Johnny Lee (of wiimote hack fame) was involved in Natal
You're right. But those types of designs are still appropriate for certain websites. Namely, websites for companies that are mostly static. The elaborate designs serve to catch the eye and reinforce an opinion of that corporation. Granted, some of the designs claim to be blogs, in which case the designs almost surely hurt usability. Most of them are either web design portfolios or corporate homepages for non-electronic or -technology companies. I would consider those designs appropriate.
I was watching the full google wave demo and they said that the functionality similar to etherpad was the hardest thing they did.
This would probably produce a program that cheats a lot. Perhaps not by simply hardcoding the answers to the tests, but by finding a good compressing function for the set of (input, output) pairs in the test. I bet this would seldom provide the expected answers on inputs not covered by the tests.
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Apple has caught on that phones are the next gaming/entertainment platform. People want to play games on their iPhone, and they will pay for them. Developers want to make games for the iPhone, because they can make games that haven't been possible in the past, and they can make money selling them. John Carmack ported Duke Nukem to the iPhone for fun. The hardware is great for games. The operating system and development stack are also great for games. People who like games and like making games are all excited about the iPhone.

In contrast, the hardware for Android is not good for games. The Android operating system and development stack seem ill-suited for games. People are not excited about playing or making Android games. People who are excited about Android are excited about making it run on washing machines.
Just make sure that you publish the proof for P=NP last, otherwise others could beat you to it :)
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Looks really cool, but it would seem like it would get slammed quite hard by google wave soon?
I didn't realise what it was until I read the comments on the arc fourm, which is proberly a bad thing! After having it explained I like it, especially the concept but I agree with comments that it doesn't scale well.

I also prefer the blue colour scheme on the arclanguage site too!
Agreed. Not only that, but a literal epicenter isn't even necessarily underground.

Any geologists care to chime in on this one?
Seeing there is a new Arc logo (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=637464) I thought this submission might be of interest.

Logo comes from this thread: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.language/2009/03/m...

Oh and the Ruby community have kindly produced a Perl6 alternative logo ;-)

* http://static.destiney.com/perl6_logo.png

* http://groups.google.com/group/ruby-talk-google/msg/acb17fb9...
I hate to say this, but whether or not this article has a good point is pretty hard to tell at first glance, and I'm pretty busy today, so I haven't read it.

I would suggest the following to the author:

- break up your article into sub-sections with clear sub-headings

- avoid long series of paragraphs of similar length. Look at your article on the page and make sure that the white space flows in a way so that the text doesn't seem intimidating

- summarise your points at the end, in bold.
If free will isn't real, why does it seem so real?
This just seems to indicate that language designers should never be allowed near graphics programs. Even language designers that are also painters.
One important thing about TDD, in my view, is that you have two separate descriptions (the test and the code) that agree. If you get your code generated from your tests then how do you detect bugs in your tests?
Your analogy is unfair. This isn't somebody's house, it's an online community. We all built the furniture together, placed it together, and are using it together.
Its certainly whimsical ;-)
I would also add that at least for me the white and the black steal the focus. This makes it very hard to see the 'a' without looking for it.
Realtime collaboration is a massive growing market - there's room for quite a few companies.
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A square logo for a language called Arc; you've got to be kidding.
If this is as cool as it looks, it's one hell of a response to the Wii.

That said, I'm a little skeptical, the lack of any sort of tactile feedback, even just holding an object, may be awkward.
Is there a summary what exactly is hard about it?

For the text syncing part there is an excellent free library from Google:
http://code.google.com/p/google-diff-match-patch/
> Many pure functions are easier to think about than their impure equivalents, but it's certaintly not the case the all pure functions are easier to think about than their impure equivalents.

I disagree. Most cases of the pure function being harder to think about than the impure equivalent are a result of either demanding impure semantics from a pure function(pure functions aren't always the best choice for implementation) or bad programming. I think that even programs that are best implemented statefully such as databases are easier to think about if they are defined conceptually in a pure way(as functions taking an additional parameter to represent the database state when it is called) regardless of how they are actually impelmented.

> And, because pure functions have no state, many pure functions have to drag along state through their parameters that they don't need/use but that their callees need/use.

I don't understand this argument. Calling another function on data from their parameters is the way functions need/use their parameters.

> "the appropriate response"? Sorry, I have work to do, work that doesn't include making advocates of functional programming happy, let alone spending time on things that they haven't been able to do.

I'm not saying that you have some sort of obligation to make it possible to more understandably solve some problem purely. However, as I am one of those functional programming advocates, I think that you would be helping yourself by solving problems purely when impure semantics are not a necessary requirement of the problem(I would also expect that fewer problems than you might think require impurity). What I meant by what you quoted is not that you specifically should make a better functional language, but that flaws in the existing languages are not necessarily a condemnation of the concept of pure functions.

> (Some of the developers of functional programming systems are quite brilliant so the fact that they haven't solved certain issues is significant.)

Significant, but hardly an indication that those issues are unsolvable. C was developed by quite brilliant people, but there were many issues they did not solve.
But all of those early microcomputers were competing for the extreme market, the nerd market, the early adopters and 16-year-old kids (with rich parents or verrrry successful after-school jobs).

Android can't beat the iPhone that way.

Also, used a G1 much? Android sucks, it's hard to use even for a person who has a clue (aka me), and its touch UI is bizarre.

There's no way a soccer mom will buy one and then buy one for her spoiled tween, unlike with the iPhone.
I take it there are no open source twitter desktop clients yet? Or ones that support 3rd party plugins?
To get the ball rolling: http://drop.io/arclogo/asset/arc-1-png

The drop is open for uploads.

[Cross posted at arclanguage.org as well]
An article on copyrights and Twitter was posted a few days ago: http://www.canyoucopyrightatweet.com/
You guys are both oversimplifying the animation performance issue.

Alex will probably write slow animations with whatever framework he's using, because it depends way more on how you program than with what.

You have to be cognizant of your DOM, your scripting practices, your loops, etc., etc.

I'm gonna be a total whore and probably get downmodded but, hey, I wrote a book on this exact topic: http://jsrocks.com/ with Thomas Fuchs, the creator of Scriptaculous. (Wait til you see Scripty2.)
Holy crap. I hadn't bothered to look at the video about this project yet (I thought only Nintendo cared about the way I want to game, since XBox and PS3 distinctly lack all the stuff that makes gaming fun for me on the Wii). But, that is simply astonishing. I knew the Wii-mote wasn't anywhere near the peak of technology in this direction, but this is dramatically cooler than I expected in the next couple of years.

So, when can I buy it? I'd buy an XBox to play games that are controlled this way.
Ahem, 6 million Poincare Conjecture was claimed.
Nice illustration of how research supports design and the importance of being user-centred.
Sounds like something Dan Brown would write.
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Also, used a G1 much?

Yes, I have two of them (developer and standard). I love it. The hardware is kinda crap, but the OS is awesome.

But all of those early microcomputers were competing for the extreme market, the nerd market

1986 was not merely the nerd market. It was also the business market. I think we're sitting at the very same point in history with smart phones (the point at which they become really useful and usable for a whole new class of user).

Anyway, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. I happen to love Android. It's reliable, fast, and does everything I want it to in a very intuitive manner. But, not only that, I think the fact that Google is enlisting dozens of manufacturers to work on their behalf to establish and grow the platform is an unbeatable strategy, unless Google (and their partners) completely screw it up. Apple can compete with one company making a cool phone. Apple simply can't compete with a dozen companies making cool phones...because history tells me that the dozen standards based companies will be able to make them cheaper, faster, and occasionally better. Apple just can't be everywhere (and in fact, part of their plan has been to remain exclusive to one carrier...people like cool products, but they also like to have choices).
Summary of the part I could parse: a suggestion to pop-sci journalists to make science sound hard instead of easy.
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Salient point (IMO):

"On the other hand, I look at the online public sphere and too often tend to find myself thinking: “Discourse at this level can’t possibly accomplish anything beyond giving people some simulation of justification for what they wanted to believe in the first place.” This is, needless to say, not a problem limited to philosophy."
Link doesn't work for me; it's asking for a guest/admin password.
IMO, it immediately strikes as a metaphor for generational garbage collector, each region depicting the generation of objects: red => new, blue => long-lived, black => garbage collected, whiteness => (??) the programmer doesn't have to worry about those details. While the rectangular shapes denote perfect building blocks, it would have been better to mix them with curves, as an expression of finesse, and/or surgical precision.

Later, pg's comment at arclanguage.org says that it's "a."
May be the lack of curves is intentional, to caution that abstractions are often somewhat approximate? :)
The initial load might take a minute

You might want to mention that on the initial page. Yesterday I also gave up after 30 seconds, and I only came back today because this is still on the HN frontpage.
This is phenomenal, but devil is in the details in terms of sensitivity. They have to be using a really phenomenal camera and processor to get any real level of precision.
pg can correct me, but methinks you're reading too much into it.
If you do not want your information aggregated across the web then make it password protected and do not allow access to people who have not accepted your terms of service. You are actively publishing text written by someone else (not even by you), and placing it in public places. Trying to claim some type of ownership on that question is counter to the principles of the web and shows to me that your need for profit is more important than your principles.

And then following it up by publicly lambasting a figure rather than privately clearing it just seems like a desperate tactic to gain publicity.
This is because you do not know how to navigate properly in business in other countries. Have you ever done business in Tanzania or Senegal or Kazhakstan or Peru? You'll have the same problems, sometimes a lot worse.

If you cannot navigate the business processes in china, then you are not cut out for it.

The basic issue is this - if you are starting a business in China, you start with a core team of chinese people whom you trust, who are efficient and who know the city. Then you hire properly - your administrative staff make or break your business in china.

If you march in with a white face and expectations, you'll get what's coming to you - nothing. In china, you need to do things the right way. And to do things the right way, you need to know what the right way is. And you don't.
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how did Gandhi or Tagore helped to reshape the world? Whats the concept of non violence? From where does this originate? A quick guide to a civilization called hinduism
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China is not the next silicon valley because silicon valley is an artificial self indulgent child that sees itself as the cleverest kid on the block.

China is the guy living on the farm and working harder, doing more and just being cleverer than the other one. When they meet at the global championship, silicon valley will realise that it has long been fat, lazy and worst of all...slow.
In the Rayman: Raving Rabbids games, one of the minigames involves tracing an outline on the screen with as much accuracy as possible. I don't know whether or not you'd consider that "complex", but it certainly involves a little more than jerks and twists. (Just the first thing that came to mind :) )
yes thats the point being made there. Twitter is not really a medium to express any "knowledge" as such. It is basically used to convey short lived information.

The author does not say that twitter aims to be a replacement for blogs, not really. It is a common concern that is expressed at many places that people who blog often might find twitter more attractive.
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wow. Never thought that twitter can be used for such purposes.
Very intesreting one. I have always been impressed with hinduism.
Fair enough, then. As I said, I couldn't access the article. It surprises me, though, that the number is close to that high.
A platform is nothing without a killer app, so this indeed may be more of a beginning than an end for AppJet.

Good luck, guys!
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I wasn't aware that Surface didn't work, although it would explain the lack of news on it. Natal actually seems similar to Surface; I wonder if the two are at all related.
The GitHub guys are just iterating and growing so fast. I'd hate to be SourceForge right about now (it seems to have caused the SF.net folks to wake up, though, as they've begun to improve at a very rapid clip).

I ordinarily recommend folks not go the installable application route (even though our business is all installable based) if they can avoid it, but I think it definitely makes sense for GitHub. It's an area where the prices are very high, and the products are generally pretty bad.
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I like that it grabs events out, instead of just trending words. How did you manage that if you don't mind sharing? I'm a big fan of tools, especially cool ones so thanks for showing great ideas can be made real in ones spare time if they keep plugging!
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