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I used to have a great deal of admiration for Craig, and craigslist... It's all but dissolved.

After his/their repugnant treatment of Eric/padmapper and their more than glacial acceptance of the fact the CL UI sucked and was actually punitive to the UX - and yet another example of CL just being jerks, I am pretty much completely devoid of any respect for Craig/CL.

It's too bad, especially given how Craig attempts to keep a socially responsible image - I think his persona is a farce.
Really admire what you're doing here, but proposed pricing seems off (just my opinion). If you think we'd be better off moving to a "encrypted by default" world, then limiting paying users to sending 150 messages a month isn't a good way to do it! Especially when I know it doesn't cost that much to do so.
Why JavaScript?
It's important to note that this is, at first glance, a different beast than the padmappers/3Taps issues, which were primarily about scraping craigslist data and placing it on a different site. Krrb has users press a button, which scrapes a given post.

The end result is the same -- the same data as Craigslist being displayed on a different site -- but this is coming from the Krrb users' own volitions, which I think makes this much more difficult to justify from Craigslist's point of view.

I honestly don't understand why Craiglist has taken this tack. I think the moves they've made in the past are respectable (as in, they have the right to protect their data and leverage their position) -- I just think there's more value to the company and the community to become the Amazon of local.
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Apparently blocking javascript also lets you read the article - in nicely formatted fashion too. I had not even realized FP had made such a change, I would have stopped reading it if I had run into that roadblock too.

Tecently there have been some misguided statements in the comments on HN that javascript is a requirement for the web and that it is reasonable for designers to always expect its presence. When those designers fail like this - the crap is gone but the important stuff still works great, I think to myself maybe it isn't so misguided. Maybe two wrongs do make a right.
Great hire.

Google hired a pimple-faced geek to design Google Glass and look what they have. :D
Most cities have sketchy places, what is unique about Tenderloin, it has hole-in-the-wall restaurants that are actually quite good. So you go in to a place and might say in the review, this place looks sketchy, but the food is great. As apposed to purely sketchy place that you do not even want to go in to. So you do not go or leave a review. Another possibility are the massage parlors, which are truly sketchy. I learned that having the opportunity to sit in at the SF Coalition Against Human Trafficking which is a collaboration between the non profits and the government organizations in the city fighting the issue.
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Disagreed. It's natural for the business head of a fashion shop to be at or above the same "level" as the creative director. Deneve's expertise is the strategy, operations, and business of fashion and should therefore report to Apple's head of business, strategy, and operations, Tim Cook.
Clearly they did it the same way Tony Stark did it at the beginning of The Avengers. They keep the suit in Area 51 next to the Kryptonian scout ship.
Great hire.

Google hired a pimple-faced geek to design Google Glass and look at the results. :D
Anyone recall the inet cuts to (Egypt?) about two years ago? (Damn, sorry - I just recall how the undersea cables were "cut" and there was a lot of speculation as to who/why... I think we have a culprit. [posting from my phone, ill try to search for a reference when I get to a machine]
You are correct that, slightly re-stated, there's nothing hypothetical about the amount of money you have to give SpaceX to put your payload on a Falcon that you reserve today. But you missed his point.

We don't know what the failure rate of the Falcon will be, whereas we do know what the failure rate of a Proton is (~10%). Satellites are expensive and delivery is not guaranteed, so every launch provider always gives a discount to early customers who put their payload on one of the first few launches of a new system.

Pvarangot's point was that the price for booking a launch today is almost certainly less than, say, booking a launch after Falcon has had ten successful launches on its first ten attempts. If Falcon has Delta's failure rate, then SpaceX can charge a premium. If Falcon's failure rate is closer to Proton, they will have to underbid the Russians to get customers. We won't know until Falcon has a few launches under its belt. Saying they are booking launches at guaranteed prices today is true, but only gives a hint to what it will cost customers five years from now.
No, it's a tool.

If we went about promoting a "NoPython Movement" in the context of computer programming I suspect that some people would get the idea that we didn't like Python very much.

Substitute 'XCF' and 'Gimp' in place of 'PSD' and 'Photoshop' and my point still makes sense.
We have self-cleaning-steam-cleansed public toilets. We need the same thing in an elevator.
Google shut down Reader because they think that we should be using Google+ instead.
> locked-in APIs
> interop is toast

Between your post and the author's, I feel like we're talking past each about what the above two phrases mean.

First of all, what do you call a "locked-in API"? I would imagine it'd be an API written in a proprietary language or only works on certain systems or browsers. Personally, I haven't seen that from any of the mentioned companies. Afaik, most of Google's, Facebook's, and Twitter's API work on any browser available, any computer that can run those browsers, including mini-computers and smartphones, even some dumb phones. Where's the lock-in? The fact that you put your data in their databases? The fact that there isn't a single format shared between each?

About interoperability being "toast," to what extent? I could probably point you to a large amount of websites and web services that have integration with Google, Facebook, and Twitter, sometimes all at the same time. Sounds like that they can operate together to me. Perhaps, you want them to provide integration between each other?
Isn't it the same strategy Apple has been played all the time for its OS? And looks like Marco Arment has been enjoying it quite a lot? There is no freedom in terms of interoperability in your daily system and suddenly you are mad at "losing it"?
An interesting article from 2001 which discusses this at length.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB990563785151302644.html

Alternative link (WSJ one acts wierd) : http://www.zdnet.com/news/spy-agency-taps-into-undersea-cabl...

Also for anyone looking for better reading, the wikipedia page sources (4][5][6][7]) all discuss this topic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Jimmy_Carter_(SSN-23)

A video on how Fiber Optic splicing is done by boat is super interesting : http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvlowj_tyco-resolute-mighty... (45minutes Tycho Resolute).

You would think this is a much easier way than building a billion dollar submarine, then again some cables are in delicate waters.
The public of our allies don't really...these publics ultimately decide whether we are allies or not.
You should piggyback your plugin into popular installers to get this on millions of computers. Then, don't make them push a button to post it on krrb, do it automatically. Make sure your TOS at install time says this is going to happen.

(I may or may not have been involved with a company that did this to great success.)
Just because there is an explanation for it doesn't mean it's not a scourge of the information age.
I was thinking "this is a great analysis and inspiring call to arms, I can't wait to see what Marco's proposing". Then I scrolled down and realised the call to arms was "keep doing what you're doing". Um.
I would have guessed that a slightly larger percentage of Amazon's revenue is from AWS (according to the article, it's about 5%).
Entitlement. I has it.

Why does HN continue to think that companies on the web who give their services to millions of users away for free (please don't repeat the you are the product being sold meme), are entitled to direct said companies to keep any project you deem useful around for as long as you deem it important (to said $RANDOM_MILLION_USER)?

With a userbase the size of Google there will be millions of people complaining about removing every single product they've ever released. Google isn't the Oracle of the world where Oracle releases a product, charges you out the wazoo, gives you 24/7 support and only enter the market of said product after researching if it is a good business investment or not. Google is the one who experiments, tests, lets you use for free, and either retires or promotes projects which turn out to be good for the company (either tech wise, or to the dismay of HN money wise). That's their MO.

Google and Facebook allow you to export your data for most of their services, and I think we can all agree that Google at least are good at giving users a fair amount of heads up before they sunset a product (or should we call it an experiment?).

It seems the prevailing notion on HN anymore is once you are a big company (bad), any service you offer the internet no matter how long ago, should be kept around indefinitely, because you are a big company (bad) and you now make a lot of money (bad). Therefore you should let everyone free ride on your platform so that fellow (broke) startups can bootstrap themselves off your prior work (good). But once said (good, broke) startups start making lots of cash, they will then become (bad) and fall into the same category of other (bad) internet giants.
eBay owns a reported at least 25% of Craigslist [1]. Whenever I tell people they are genuinely surprised. Craigslist never has really added huge features in years and I honestly think it is because eBay slows them down and doesn't want them to. Think about how Twitter and Facebook have grown built APIs, 3rd party integration and apps. Craigslist doesn't even have an official iPhone app.

They've had the capital, the resources, and the users who provided the content which were all they needed and could eventually launch a way to ship and provide feedback for users and destroy eBay. I think Craig sold out and doesn't have a lot of say in the legal matters which is why it happens in the first place and Craigslist really will never improve.

[1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_acquisitions_by_eBay#ci...
While I agree with the main argument of the letter, I don't understand the characterization of CL's law firm as "infamous," and its employees as "cronies." What exactly are they infamous for? Just sending C&Ds on behalf of Craigslist?

Further, the argument that zealous attempts at protecting IP means you should be .com not org falls pretty short to me. The Red Cross has a policy of sending C&Ds to game companies that use the red cross on white logo, and also claim such use violates the Geneva convention. This may be overreach, but it would be a strange stretch to claim such actions meant the Red Cross should dump their .org domain.
As a left handed person in China, I always get stairs when people see me writing with my left hand (like I was an alien?), and I have trouble eating at tightly packed circular tables.
Since you are replying to this in the Haskell thread - Go clearly performs FAR better than Haskell on these simple benchmarks.

So as far as I can tell, the pros of using Haskell over Go would be

1) More safety from crashes

while the Cons of Haskell would be

1) Slightly slower than Go at HTTP

2) Far, far slower than Go at database queries

3) Much steeper learning curve

4) Based on the history of ML languages, will never be popular. Go is gaining popularity quickly.

I think recommending Haskell to someone for a real project is bad advice from the above. Recommending Haskell to someone for self enrichment is another story, and I can get behind that one.
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Crashing the Visual C++ compiler
Conspicuously missing: any sort of criticism directed at Apple.
Any recommendations for non-players looking to get sucked into whatever it is that makes it so intriguing?
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So instead of providing a useful service, they should distribute malware designed to... what, maximize their chances of being sued by craigslist?
Well, for once I agree with Marco. But I find it a little strange coming from him - he seemed to care not much about it at all when making his apps exclusive to Apple's locked down, ultra closed platforms.
Whether you agree or disagree with the piece, I think it's perhaps more interesting to try to put together the clues about Marco's next project.

My guess would be something like a new publishing standard or system that makes it easy to package good writing into an immersive mobile form, possibly via Newsstand. But just spitballin' here.
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They did slowly integrate some parts of Reader into Google+ and it was met with resistance.

Google+ Sparks was a kind of RSS/StumbleUpon thing. Flopped.

Reader sharing became sharing into Google+. Many in the Reader crew defiantly cried out against it and said they wouldn't share things if they had to use Google+ to do it.

It wouldn't have been all roses no matter how you cut it.

I think people are in the bargaining phase of dealing with their post-Reader era grief.
Apple needs its own version of an internally developed "Vertu" phone, I mean, their margins are too low!!

I recall the first time I saw the Vertu phones in Singapore, then I asked about their prices....

There is an old saying: "a fool and his money are soon parted"

I have a new saying: "there is no limit to what the elite will spend the fools money on"
eBay owns a chunk of craigslist yes, but not a controlling share. The two companies have been involved in multiple legal battles. I doubt eBay is secretly pulling craigslist's strings while they sue each other.

I agree that it appears Craig doesn't appear to have much say in legal matters at craigslist, but that appears to be because he has voluntarily ceded control to Jim Buckmaster.
What about Cobol on COGS?
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The "Reader" button in the address bar fixes it.
I've come up with a charitable interpretation of Google shutting down Reader. And I am not known for being charitable toward Google.

I just have a gut feeling that shutting down Reader may have made life easier for Google when it comes to National Security Letters, subpoenas, warrants or whatever. Turning over a list of what someone has read, does seem a bit evil.

Maybe I am being naive in attributing a positive motivation to them on this issue. But it just feels more plausible in light of the backlash of negative feelings the shutdown has created, who harbors such feelings, and the rather trivial resources required to maintain the service.

If they were turning over logs from Reader - and why wouldn't they have been requested - what options would Google have? Carry on or shutdown or lawyer up, are about it.

Would the backlash when such a practice was disclosed be less than that for shutting down Reader? I doubt it. People who didn't use Reader, like me, don't care about its shutdown. But I'd probably be full of condemnation and brimstone when commenting on a story about Google turning over reading lists to the government.
Because of trust. When Google started reader, and more importantly, when they put the sign out front saying "come hither for a hassle free web RSS client that keeps a backup of all the feeds you visit even if they go down and everyone said "hells yeah" because it was from a web supergiant and those don't very often go under since 2001.

So we got dependent. And they pulled the rug out. People only got dependent on the assumption it would be persistent. Google's entire business is making things that don't make them money but give them more avenues for ads. And your freaking news feed from Google is the best place I can imagine for targeted advertising and to figure out a users browsing habits. My emails are stuffed with spam, my google searches could be anyone, but you can reliably say I'm browsing my reader feeds and I'm interested in the articles I am opening and those are the ultimate target for advertising.

I'd say something about how social networks factor in, but I don't use any them (or Twitter) so I could care less. But I highly doubt that Google got its desired outcome from killing Reader - they lost a vast swathe of technical users and lost confidence from even more, and they won't see these people move over to consuming content on Google Plus because they don't give a crap how many dog treats the neighbors dog ate yesterday, they care about xkcd strips or gamasutra article feeds. You get a wall of shit on Google+ that you can at least curate in the RSS world. Why I would ever want to use it I have no idea. If I want to talk or interact with people, I'll use XMPP or SMTP. If I want to consume textual or image based media with consistent publication, I'll use RSS. Notice how I keep quoting protocols - because they are open and interoperable. I can expect other people to be ably to reliably target said protocols and distribute their content to anyone that wants it because you have a myriad of tools to access them. That share on G+ button only works with G+, and like the article said, Google wants you stuck on their services.

So I switched the default search engine on my grandparents, mother, cousins, and neighbors to duckduckgo. I'm looking for free web email services that compete with gmail to drop that too, because who knows when Google will rip that rug out from under us as well. "Why are you sending emails? Just send G+ messages! You are all on G+ right? It is expensive to keep a copy of all those email attachments!"
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Absolutely right. Corporations should never be criticized. Only governments.
Is there anyway for the signal to be bulk encrypted in realtime and have the cryptographic key between two end points automatically cycled and exchanged via means other than that cable?

I would imagine that making a cryptographically secure wired connection impervious to eavesdropped would be a thing by now.
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It's actually a lot more accessible than it seems.

For anyone interested in learning to play DF, I highly recommend YouTube user 51ppycup's "Dwarf Fortress for Dummies" series - he gets the basics across really well and you'll be striking the earth in no time.

Dwarf Fortress for Dummies 2012: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD1A3FE72C0DCAC66
I've been humming and harring on starting a decentralized RSS based social network idea I've had bugging me for awhile, probably two years now. There where a few of these around 2007 and Facebook brought them out and shut them down.

But I'm hearing the same complaint all over the place, so I'm starting to think I might not be alone.

I've just been put off by the idea that maybe I'm an outsider and people don't want that, and it'll be months of work potentially for nothing. Maybe I should start some thing even if I just hand it off. I dunno, would love to see what the thirst is out there.
...and the web.

Sure he didn't do an app for Android (until someone did for him) and is a bit snarky about it as a platform, but the web version of Instapaper existed before the app did and powered the whole thing.

Plus 'The Magazine' has a significant web component (albeit a weird log in).

His preference for iOS seems to be aesthetic and income related, but he's originally (and still) a PHP web guy.
It could also encrypt the users important files and then demand money for the decryption key. It's all good if it's in the TOS!
I think you miss the point.

Google, Facebook, and Twitter don't want publishers to use RSS/Atom. They want them to publish using their respective, proprietary APIs.
craigslist's position is pretty clear, whether they publicly admit it or not: they don't want, and will aggressively work to prevent, other companies attempting to bootstrap themselves off craigslist's content. I don't know why we have to all pretend we're shocked about this.
The issue is less that LoC is universally a useless metric, and more that it's a metric whose nuances need to be accounted for carefully when used in analysis. The author gave no indication of such accounting, and so regardless of whether or not we would tend to agree with the conclusion, we should reject the analysis.

Really, the biggest problem is the presentation. The whole thing reads like a back of the envelope calculation turned blog post dressed up to look like an industry white paper. If this were just a blog post with a few more caveats thrown in, it wouldn't be nearly so bad.
The issue here isn't so much entitlement, as it is interoperability. And, ironically, I think Marco's assessment is that, from a game-theoretic-approach, what Facebook/Twitter/Google are doing, in locking down their environments, and making sure that user (meta)data isn't easily accessible from outside the ecosystem, is entirely logical.

He just doesn't want to play that game.

His article is a call to action, basically saying, "If we want an open web, we'll have to (continue to) build it."
Apple'a OS isn't the web. But I guess we've given up on the web now that Google is no longer championing openness.
That is not why the people are shocked. The general mass is shocked(especially foreigners, of course) or rather annoyed about the moral high ground US always seems to take("Chinese are hacking us, we're not hacking them") to which it doesn't own up to.
This doesn't even account for sites that are using AWS but fronting with a CDN (like reddit, for example).
it has been ruled many times that owners of a company can not represent a corporation pro se because a corporation is consider its own legal entity separate from the owners so a corporation must hire a lawyer to represent them in court. The only exception is if the owner is a bar licensed lawyer then he can represent the corporation pro bono but his actions as owner and lawyer are considered seperate
It's already possible for two end points to securely decide on a cryptographic key in a way that's impervious to eavesdropping: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffie-Hellman_key_exchange
This seems extremely unlikely to me. While would be Orwellian to hand over a list of what someone has read, it pales beside handing over their private chats, emails and social graph.
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Except that collective bargaining distorts our perception of their value by allowing them to hold the entire system hostage. If my job was to press a button once a day that kept the electricity on in San Francisco, I could go on strike and negotiate a salary of millions of dollars. That doesn't mean that I would be providing millions of dollars worth of value (since I could be replaced by a trained monkey or robot).
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Trying to install a tap on an active fiber cable sounds like a very much impossible feat for any kind of modern technology.

If I was the poor EE they laid this problem on, I would have the submarine install the tap while the cable is still being laid, before it's connected to any data streams.

Without knowing how long it takes to install the tap, it would also be possible to sabotage cables, install the tap while the cable is down, and make the sabotage out to be the doings of any number of semi-rogue countries in your targeted part of the world.