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Is this a joke? Inferior? Women like to have sex just like men do. But many women, especially in their early 20s, are often reluctant to take the first step. So a man needs to take action. That's what the whole fuss is about.
You're asking whether it would be as problematic if it were a different book? I guess it depends. It's not like fiction/nonfiction is a switch that you can toggle without making other substantive changes.
I see no denial of the author's freedom of speech here. The author is free to host and fund their misogynist drivel on their own server, and Kickstarter doesn't seem to be denying that. Kickstarter has a business to run, and has some semblance of ethics, so it has chosen to refuse to offer its service to this content.
I don't see it as brilliant, I see it as a giant foot-in-mouth situation (which may be colored by the fact that I don't have a problem with seduction guides in general, and haven't seen the material in question) - until now Kickstarter has been neutral on legal content so if I see something I don't like, well too bad, but now there is a precedent for removing something because somebody finds it offensive, but others like it; so now they either have to issue an apology and retract the next offensive thing (say a t-shirt commemorating the ban on assault weapons) or lose their stance as neutral.

If they had instead issued a non-apology-apology they would have been of the hock.
The rights of women? Women have a right to not have a book published? Really?

I could make the parallel argument for The Anarchist's Cookbook, and the difference between publication and action, but what's the point? Gender politics has been extraordinarily effective at driving reason out of such discussions.
I assume you're talking about the building that was at the SE corner of 7100 and 286, off Sunrise.
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Is there any way to find actual interesting questions/answers on SO? It seems like the top questions by votes are always dominated by language spec arcana, which interests me not at all. But then I find links to great answers and questions from HN and elsewhere pretty regularly.
How do you plan on keeping out spam?
Two things:
One. Freedom of speech is a first amendment right to protect you from censorship by the government and the government only. Anyone, anywhere running their own service is fully within their rights to boot you off.

Two. A sleazy pickup artist book isn't anywhere remotely near any previous works of banned art. I would consider something as awful the film Cannibal Holocaust to be fine art before I used that term for some idiotic kickstarted pick up artist book.
Freedom of Speech goes out the window when you start dealing with private enterprise. Kickstarter doesn't have the power to "ban" anything more than you or I. They're just addressing the kind of content they don't want to be promoting, which is totally within their rights.
wonder what the ideal amount of time spent on work is. tim ferriss seems to recommend 4 hours (surprise, surprise...) of "real" work.

what's your "Time and attention management" like?
The great thing about open source documentation is that you can write a patch and attempt to fix it. It would probably take less time to clone a repository and submit a pull request than it did for the author to write that article.
They're not banning anything. They're banning it from their platform. They don't get to say "You can't publish that", but they do get to say "You can't publish that in collaboration with us". There is nothing stopping the author of this work to raise funds via alternate means, which is much as it has always been. I imagine most all controversial works have had problems getting published, but I don't think people cry out "censorship" whenever a publisher rejects a work on vaguely moral grounds.
Seriously check out OsmAnd - it does do offline navigation which is why I got it.
I see exactly where you're coming from but KickStarter isn't the only outlet, there are plenty of others available.

It's murky water to tread anytime you start excluding groups but you also have to preserve the community that you build and do what you believe to be correct for it. The owners and admins of KickStarter are stewards of that community and have a duty to it. If, after very careful consideration, it is deemed that this material would hurt this particular group then it's fine by me if they stopped it. The creatives will go elsewhere because there are other places (this is key).

Random House doesn't get into the business of publishing books on many different subjects but plenty of other publishers do.
I would guess that people buying a seduction guide don't really understand 'women' - in that they believe that women are somehow different, unapproachable and alien to them. The misogyny stems from the book not teaching these people that women are equal and worthy of respect, but instead teaching them to ignore consent and be an 'alpha bro' stereotype.
And people wonder why there aren't more women in tech.
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If a girl is already in a private, intimate setting with you after you've met her a few times – like that part of the guide relates to – then sex probably isn't too much of an unreasonable assumption.

Of course that counter-article cherry-picked quotes from all over the guide and threw them together to make it sound like these were all things you should do on first meeting someone
I don't see how that's a 'rape manual' quote if it is clearly in a section labelled sex. I.e. you both already have the expectation of sex - are in a bedroom or whatever. It's obviously clear that he doesn't suggest such behaviour in a different context.
Alex here from the post. I absolutely agree with both your points now - when I do it again I'll change those.

However for the first time, a round the world flight was great. It gave me a taste of each country, and then on the second time I'm planning on going back to my favorite and really immersing myself in them.
I've had water rescue training. I read the article as well.

Parent comment was addressing a drowning person victimizing the rescuer, which also seems to contradict the article.
Truth is not subject to voting and Kickstarter has proved that they consider women inferior and in need of protection by banning this type of content.
Of course it wouldn't. Is that surprising? Fiction is different from a how-to manual and should be treated as such. It's not just the literal words in a particular paragraph, it's also the surrounding context.
I've wanted to write a post like this for a long time, but my good friend @searls [1] beat me to it and has nailed all of the points with much more eloquence than I could have. Worth a read if you are at all wondering about javascript dependency management solutions (like require.js, browserify, etc..)

[1] - http://www.twitter.com/searls
That's a plz-send-teh-codez question. OP demonstrated no effort at all in solving his problem and couldn't be bothered learning how to format his question.

If the OP had provided a snippet of SQL or suggested a theory on how this might be solved, even if it was completely wrong, then the question would have remained open, gotten a few answers and perhaps even upvoted.
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I've been tweeting jeers to @DoSomething (the group that garnered the petition) and kudos to Perry Chen and Kickstarter for not having ceded to censorship.

To be fair, the book is ugly. The passages quoted are disgusting. I would never buy this book, nor endorse that anyone else buy this book. If asked, I would state that I think the book is disgusting and that you probably should not buy it.

What is even more disgusting to me is the very popular idea that its manufacture should have been censored. While we may each be able to judge for ourselves that this book does or does not (for me, it does not) have any artistic value, none of us is capable of making that decision for the others, and certainly not for everybody else.

I'm somewhat saddened to see Kickstarter's apology for this reason, and I am disgusted that the project was canned altogether. But worse than all of that, I am deeply, deeply troubled that so many young people were so eager to jump on the censorship bandwagon.
I believe they've always censored in a fairly opinionated manner. I'd only be speculating if I tried to say why, but I imagine it's to do with wanting a much more active audience - a site needs to do a lot more to make you give your money than just keep on reading. If their projects list turned people away they'd be in a lot of trouble.
On Linux, that packet wouldn't leave the device either. You have to ping another host on your subnet or the kernel won't queue the packet for transmission on a hardware network interface.
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It's sarcasm. 'Women are sensitive, fragile, inferior creatures who require constant, vigilant protection from honorable men.' and therefore we must ban this kickstarter.
It really really depends on the context and how you define "force". This doesn't even come close to mild sado maso.

A kiss can be sexual assault, especially against minors. But even strangling (which I don't do and never did to a woman) can be part of consential sex. It's really sensitive subject. Let's not talk about fifty shades of gray...

"Consent" isn't discussed enough. For example prostitution is widely seen as consential, despite tons of evidence that prostitution hardly ever is a conscious, free career choice, and rape is rape no matter how much you pay to the pimp...
I was in Beijing a few weeks ago when the AQI was in the mid to high 200s. While it looked nasty, what really surprised me was that I couldn't really sense that I was breathing polluted air – it didn't smell bad and it wasn't difficult to inhale. The only indicator that I was breathing bad air was the cough I developed after a week in the city. I attributed it to a traveling cold but it quickly went away when I returned to the relatively clean Manhattan air.
Fundamental problem: if you give me something, then I only know it's what you were willing to give. It tells me nothing of your intentions or agenda other then what I know you'll tell me.

This is why intelligence organizations exist. Because information you acquire yourself, through your own processes, is trustworthy. Information gifted is not.
That quote was in a section about sex.
Exactly this. Even though we had the company policy and Symantec PGP software installed, the engineers I worked with sill failed to use it regularly. I remember having to logmein to machine in China to try to figure out why they couldn't read our emails. This is why PGP never took off.

Until the tools take 5 min to setup. And encryption/decryption is as easy as clicking a checkbox in your mail client, PGP will never take off. Things like the public key directory have to handled transparently to the user.

It's too bad Mozilla dropped support for Thunderbird. Tight integration with GnuPG could have made mainstream PGP a reality.
Actually it's completely context dependant.

The context, which is conveniently being ignored in most of the discussion, is that at this point you are already "fooling around", at which point it might actually be a fairly reasonable thing to do.

It also says "If she says no, stop immediately"
Has anyone read the actual response from the book author? http://pastebin.com/zwHYzCZe
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Are you saying you consider that "rape", even if the subjects were already kissing and fondling?

I wonder how many people outraged at this have explicitly asked for permission before every step of physical escalation in every one of their relationships.
The Watchmen.

But wait, who watches..
It's easy to see why there aren't more women in computing with the mountain of rape culture, misogyny, and male privilege on display in these comments.
I can see the "republican" part, since they have to deal with requests from the government, but "white" and "male"? Do sex and race really have that much bearing on one's thinking about legal matters, especially at the ostensibly high level of a federal court?
And all seduction guides do is offer advise on how to do that, but somehow what is acceptable for every issue of Cosmo (and a fair number of mens magazines) isn't acceptable for a guide on kickstarter.
I think you're conflating the right to promote something abhorrent with permission to promote something abhorrent in my space. There are many examples of rights which can be exercised to perpetrate moral wrongs. Kickstarter isn't capable of impeding that. They are, however, well within _their_ rights to revoke access to _their_ mechanism.

Kickstater is, ultimately, a business, and they've decided they will make more money by doing a little of their own policing. If what's best for art isn't what's best for Kickstarter, expect them to do what's best for Kickstarter. If someone can compete with them by doing what's best for art instead, more power to them.
Both the article and the previous commenter are correct. People in late stages of drowning can't swim toward you, but they certainly will grasp on to you when you reach out to rescue them. If this happens, the rescuer will frequently submerge himself and use their legs and arms to forcefully push away from the victim before reengaging from behind.
(Source: I was an ocean lifeguard for seven years in high school and college and have experienced this)
It also seems fairly clear that you haven't read the context of those same quoted parts.
I see mentioned that the PC port did not go very well. I've never played PoP on my Apple ][, only the DOS port. Am I missing something by only having played the PC version?

(Maybe Color? I don't remember if it was B&W because of my VGA card or because the PC version just didn't have color.)
HN is ground zero for privilege denying wealthy cis white men.
This was on reddit last night - I can't access the article, but the people in the comments on the reddit thread were having massive misconceptions about trademark vs copyright. Also, anyone can put TM next to something - it doesn't mean they trademarked it. It's the (R) that means you actually put forth effort to trademark something.
Freedom of speech as defined in US law and freedom of speech as liberty we value are not necessarily the same. While it's not illegal to boot someone from a private service for expressing opinions you disagree with it, it still may be wrong.
Yes, because there is something intrinsically wrong with these guides.
I think you're a murderer.

Anyone who defends you is defending murder.
Women have been the target of systematic oppression for millenia, of which sexual violence has been a primary tool. Are you open to the possibility that that might not be over quite yet? That that might actually be deserving of a little sensitivity?
>> "the decision had to be made immediately".

Kickstarter believes their only choices are "allow to continue unimpeded" or "cancel the project". This incident suggests a third possibility: "flag for review". They could set up a policy which allows them to temporarily suspend a project, placing a short-term hold on project funds so that they do not go either to the creator or get refunded. The review process would need to be fast and transparent, but not so fast as to require snap judgments.
>touching them when they've expressed they don't want to be touched //

Maybe I'm being an idiot but where did it say that in your quote?

Perhaps it's this line:

>Even when a girl rejects your advances, she KNOWS that you desire her. //

I'd say implicit in that is that "when you have to stop because they've rejected your advance it's fine because they KNOW [blah blah blah]".

To be honest it's Kickstarter's gig, but I think putting someone down in this way for simply advocating diminished personal space in social interactions, seems a bit heavy.

Seriously from the "We were wrong" post I was expecting the "manual" to be telling you how to feed someone rohypnol [memory removal drug] not to touch their back when you're on a date.

>Content promoting or glorifying violence against women or anyone else has always been prohibited from Kickstarter. //

Where's the bit that promotes violence? It must be very obvious in the book otherwise they wouldn't surely be risking libelling the creator by making them out to advocate violence against women.
sure!

“Pull out your cock and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Don’t ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your dick.“
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This idea might be up there with saving on your electric bill by installing little turbines on all your water faucets.
You'd really think it would move opposite USD. That correlation is ridiculously high, even over just two months. Can't imagine it lasts forever.
He mentions having only 2 options to decide whether to cancel or let the funds go through. Isn't there a third option that they could use in the future, Put a delay on the transfer while you review it?
Why is Kickstarter unable to return the money?
The design is inconsistent. If you only use color to signify buttons, making top and bottom banners with the same solid color as buttons is confusing, especially when several buttons are embedded in the top or bottom banner.

That aside, it is a good, clean interface.
Add a premium tier, even something as simple as integrated web analytics. Donations are charity. If you want this to be a sustainable business, ask for people to pay for value.
> Adding that salt is optional. I'm pretty sure the author just added it to the post so people know it exists.

I have nothing against adding a salt manually to show how it works, I have things against adding stupid salts.

> I don't think it's dumb and pointless at all, really.

You're missing the criticism. The problem isn't the ability to inject a salt (it is useful e.g. when the (cost, salt, hash) triple is in a format other than MCF), it is the way the salt is obtained.
This. Seems like a few lines taken out of context, and you can make anything seem bad if you take it out of context.

Sex - Pull out your cock and put her hand on it. Remember, she is letting you do this because you have established yourself as a LEADER. Don't ask for permission, GRAB HER HAND, and put it right on your dick.
- http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1dvnem/above_the_...

Sounds bad out of context sure, but in context he is talking about when you are about to have sex with the woman, in a private location (or whatever). You are in the act of it, not forcing yourself on a woman you just met in a bar.

Personally, I can see nothing wrong with this. Sure, the wording could possibly be better or less crass maybe, but if the book was to go to publish then there would be the time to go through that phase. All books go through edits.

Usual overreaction to everything that may seem slightly anti-feminist.

As josh2600 says above, there are similar books to this already, maybe we should start rallying Amazon et al too?

http://www.amazon.com/The-Game-Penetrating-Society-Artists/d...
http://www.amazon.com/The-Pickup-Artist-Improved-Seduction/d...
http://www.themysterymethod.com/
Kickstarter is a business and has no obligation to uphold free speech. They need to curate their projects to protect their reputation. What if they allowed filmakers to Kickstart porn movies? You could call it free speech and make no judgments about the act itself, but at the end of the day people would start to see Kickstarter as a slimy business that's willing to host any project as long as they get a cut of it.
Having attached earlobes is not a protected characteristic, nor (more relevantly) is breaking the rules of the establishment.
:/
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HN could have easily been built using rails or django.
All he's saying here is that you should test/push boundaries, not to continue once they've rejected the advances. But, he notes, that even if they reject, it achieves a desired effect which may eventually pay off.
As for being distracted by so-called "new technology" nothing could protect one from choosing over hyped crap like MongoDB but knowledge of underlying concepts.

Recognizing and avoiding crap and a fraud is up to end-user. Otherwise one will end up running Java under Windows under VMware on Amazon AWS, as the best industry standard practice.) Or NodeJS as a "VM" with MongoDB as a "database".
Kickstarter is simply selecting with whom they choose to enter into a contractual agreement. So long as they do so in a way which is not illegally discriminatory, they are within their right.

Likewise, the potential counterparties to an agreement with Kickstarter are free to choose not to enter into a contract with Kickstarter.
It seems, though, that those are taken out of context--the context being what to do once in an intimate setting and having already established some form of relationship.

So, basically, trying to teach awkward dudes how to start physical stuff if they're too inexperienced to know how.
It's pretty hilarious when libertarians and believers in unfettered free enterprise cry foul against corporations and businesses for having content standards.
We have people stop-and-frisked for being black and people being taken off planes for flying-while-muslim. You don't think race has anything to do with how people experience things in this world?
”5) Get CLOSE to her, damn it!
To quote Rob Judge, “Personal space is for pussies.” I already told you that the most successful seducers are those who can’t keep their hands off of women. Well you’re not gonna be able to do that if you aren’t in close! ”
“All the greatest seducers in history could not keep their hands off of women. They aggressively escalated physically with every woman they were flirting with. They began touching them immediately, kept great body language and eye contact, and were shameless in their physicality. Even when a girl rejects your advances, she KNOWS that you desire her. That’s hot. It arouses her physically and psychologically.”

“Decide that you’re going to sit in a position where you can rub her leg and back. Physically pick her up and sit her on your lap. Don’t ask for permission. Be dominant. Force her to rebuff your advances.”

I don't know if it should have been removed from Kickstarter, but this is bad, bad behavior that must be discouraged.

As for the "whip your cock out and drag her hand to it" bit, everything's contextual, but for some reason I'm skeptical that people buying a "seduction guide" will grok the very subtle facets of circumstance that might make that consensual.
As usually codified in law. There is plenty of room for people to believe that rights to speech should enjoy greater protections (I don't mean to defend that position, I mean to acknowledge it).
There don't seem to be any direct competitors to kickstarter, so when kickstarter chooses to ban something from their site, they ban it from getting kickstarted. Just because they don't use violence doesn't mean they don't have power, or that their power doesn't come with responsibility.
EDIT: Apparently the OP was being sarcastic, and I failed to read deep enough into the ASCII characters. But if he hadn't been sarcastic, I would've still said what I said below.

What the hell? I had to read this over 6 times to make sure I was understanding it correctly.

"Women are sensitive, fragile, inferior creatures who require constant, vigilant protection from honorable men."

That right there ladies and gentlemen, is the thinking that permeates and sustains misogyny throughout our world.

I understand that the original poster had good intentions, but the way is high and his eyes are definitely upon the ground.

Women are not sensitive, fragil, or inferior. Please avoid false blanket statements like this.