skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I wish everyone would wait more than 24 hours before drawing such concrete conclusions. We barely know that much of the story here yet, and I imagine a lot more of it is going to come out in the next few days (such as his true location, more about his career in the IC, etc.).

In the past there have been dissidents like this where it turned out years later that a foreign intelligence service was behind them the whole time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_and_Mitchell_defection).

I'm not saying that is the case here, but this news cycle is making everyone crazy - just think that we've known this guy's name for only approximately 24 hours.
Keep in mind many Americans have never traveled outside the country, they are fed a constant diet of bullshit by our media alternating between frantic fear-mongering and gushing American paternalism, and simply don't stop to think about what is actually going on.

I would call them complete morons but that is unkind. Incurious and ignorant and perhaps far too trusting is perhaps more polite.
He is a patriot, and we are all responsible if he is wrongly persecuted
Apps mostly worked, but things were broken.

I'd suggest it for testing, but not on a Phone you need to really use. It's a developer beta for a reason- It's great for ensuring your apps are compatible, but if you're downloading/installing just to test it out, expect it to randomly fail.

Specifically - I've seen lots of lockups that need a force-reboot, and apps that don't work or fail in weird ways.

Keep in mind, the POINT of the beta is so App Developers can test it with their apps - That means that nothing is tested yet, and things will break.

Sometimes users will upgrade to a developer-only beta, then write a bad review about an app because it doesn't work right on their developer-beta. These people are jerks.

Overall, I'd suggest a secondary iPod touch or similar, rather than installing on a device you need.
Personally I couldn't care less about the design, it would be sitting behind several large screens anyway and the thermal ideas sound interesting....

That said....

4 ram slots???? Really? 12 cores, 2 GPUs and I get 32GB of ram? Maybe 64GB if 16GB dimms in standard sizes become a thing? That kills it completely in my book.
A fully adequate population imo and I don't think it's far off at all.
If the survey was properly randomized, then it's actually probably true that you don't understand statistics...
That seems like a lot of work and far more targeted than would be consistent with their recently revealed MO (although I am certain they do this in limited instances where "necessary"). These programs seem to have a primary aim of maximum efficiency and mass surveillance. Deploying hardware doesn't seem to fit that description.
Sure, just what everybody wants more of these days, NSA-accessible cloud storage.
Statement regarding involvement of IMMI in Edward Snowden asylum request
“My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”

or the full version:

“I confidently trust that the American people will prove themselves … too wise not to detect the false pride or the dangerous ambitions or the selfish schemes which so often hide themselves under that deceptive cry of mock patriotism: ‘Our country, right or wrong!’ They will not fail to recognize that our dignity, our free institutions and the peace and welfare of this and coming generations of Americans will be secure only as we cling to the watchword of true patriotism: ‘Our country—when right to be kept right; when wrong to be put right.’”—Schurz, “The Policy of Imperialism,” Speeches, Correspondence and Political Papers of Carl Schurz, vol. 6, pp. 119–20 (1913).
http://www.bartleby.com/73/1641.html
If the dictation feature on the keyboard counts (and I suppose it should, because the dictation is sent to a service somewhere to be processed; it doesn't happen on the phone), I use that dozens of times a day. I rarely use Siri proper for anything other than setting the occasional reminder or alarm though.
My first reaction was, oh wow looks just like the NeXT cube, that's kinda a cool tribute to Jobs.

Then my second reaction was, oh man, it will sorta look like I have a trash bin on my desk. I wish they had made the dimensions a little different. I think this will be the "flop" model where they work out hardware kinks and the next one will be prettier/sleeker, so I'll hold out til then.
That nobody in the real world has actually tried it yet?

Fair enough. But I remember when Apple first made the iTunes icons monochromatic, and everyone complained that they'd no longer be able to distinguish the icons. People seemed to adapt pretty quickly though.
I wasn't implying you weren't an activist, but I do think posting a link to the EFF will result in a better response than a chain mail.

I'm not one to compare the holocaust with mass surveillance anyways.

Cheers for coming back and trying to add a little sensibility to the discussion :).
Technically, liberty has not been impacted, only privacy.
Too bad it doesn't support 16gb RAM yet :(
Historically, use of Apple's online services have been optional, even in iOS. I would be surprised if that has changed.
The iOS 7 examples look like something My Little Pony puked up in a general configuration of something similar to Windows Phone 8.

Maybe Bronies are the target market?
>Apple aren't offering ANY of that.

I think Apple's philosophy here is to push all the expansion to external devices. The new Mac Pro has 6 thunderbolt 2 ports on it. I'd assume you could probably connect some extremely large and fast storage enclosures with that kind of bandwidth. A regular workstation will always be limited by the space available inside of it. Not with this.
Which is maybe why it needs to go before a jury.

Civil trials aren't guaranteed to have a trial by jury, but maybe if the government is one of the parties, the other party should be able to demand a trial by jury.

Of course juries are not as independent as they should be, with jurors being kicked out for not following judges orders, or verdicts being thrown out by the judge, or juries being intimidated by judges into ruling a certain way.
I don't know if you ever watched the West Wing, but there was a recurring character named "Harry Klaypool" who represented a group called "Freedom Watch", and who basically just filed endless lawsuits and subpoenas to try to harass and dig up dirt on the show's fictional presidential administration (to which he was politically opposed).

That character was based on... Larry Klayman and "Judicial Watch", which basically do the same thing in real life (i.e., file nuisance suits against the administration whenever a Democrat is in office).

This is a guy who, from what I can tell, would file a massive lawsuit on the news that a Democratic President slept in for five minutes one morning. It's about the least credible basis for challenging PRISM that you'll find.
https://www.tinfoilsecurity.com is a hosted automated security tool (Disclaimer: I work for Tinfoil)
Sorry, the link I followed did not show this popup, and I'm not sure how to link to a version without it. That is quite annoying.
That's because a majority of Americans don't believe they have anything to hide, or that the stuff they do want to hide is probably so mundane to the average government official that they assume they wouldn't care. I'm guessing the way the survey question is posed has a lot to do with the outcome. Take out the word "terrorism" and I'm sure support would drop. Add the phrase "personal information" and I'm sure it would drop even further. Or perhaps ask "Would you be comfortable with the government tracking your activity on Facebook, Gmail, and Skype?" I'm guessing support for that would be close to 0%.
ACP, Knuth: SETAN(rus) balanced, unbalanced(balun) ternary, (0,1) arithmetic encoding, Bechet's weights with Euler's proof... with Nicolai's dual(fewer Ohaus weights with greater nos comparisons conserved) solution, and remind savvy person of analog integraph, and instant immediacy of K+E slip stick.
Thanks. I would make a horrible lawyer. None of it makes sense to me.
Agreed, it does look like R2D2.

It was as if Apple lured R2D2 to the dark side and released as the Mac Pro!
Anyone with strong views about privacy would never answer an opinion poll so how can this be considered accurate?
When I told my grandparents (who now live in Russia/former Eastern Bloc) about what's happening in the US, they brought up this exact issue (with a less tech-oriented example).

My grandmother said that this was the most terrifying part of living in the Soviet Union. Since most of my grandparents were high up military (doctors, not soldiers), aerospace research, and medicine in the Soviet Union, they saw the reality of the USSR with a lot less propaganda. When they went back home or visited family in other parts of the country, they would immediately enter into a surreal world where the reality described by propaganda was starkly different from the reality they had experienced.

What's even more terrifying is that by nature of their isolation from international news sources and dependence on TV, most of America already lives in roughly this reality. The world as they see it is shaped by television.
The Engadget Interview: Mozilla Firefox VP Johnathan Nightingale
The fact that he filed a suit on behalf of a Florida resident to keep Obama off the 2012 presidential ballot over concerns that he is "not a natural born citizen" certainly makes me question his credentials a bit... http://tbo.com/ap/politics/judge-dismisses-suit-to-keep-obam...
Can u put an option: "what was the point to upgrade, when my iPhone 4 works fine." :)
Sent this letter to Conor Friedersdorf (article author):

The trouble with the idea of "terrorism" is it doesn't distinguish between Boston Bombings and a 500k+ casualty attack from a nuclear device. The former can and should be dealt with within the normal rule of law and using normal law enforcement. In the case of the latter, we hope and expect that the full national security apparatus is directed toward preventing the event, and that a suspension of the normal rule of law could probably be appropriate.

The problem is, like the 2008 financial crisis and the 2009 Gulf oil spill, the probability of these massive impact "black swan" events is much higher than naive statistical modeling and intuition would suggest. That is, the distribution of these events is "heavy-tailed": the probability of an extremely bad thing happening cannot be easily extrapolated from looking at the frequency with which less bad things have actually happened.

I think people may have a sense that the distribution of terrorism events is "heavy-tailed", making our reaction not entirely irrational (though much of it is). The real problem is that the word "terrorism" conflates normal garden-variety shootings, bombings, and ricin-laced-letter-mailings with the events that could kill millions. If the NSA is only working on preventing the latter, then I think most people would be happy to let them read everything. But when peace activists are called threats to national security (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/peace-activists-nuc...), and people in the IC joke that Glenn Greenwald should be "disappeared", it's hard to have faith that our national security apparatus is appropriately allocating its resources.
You don't need link shorteners on HN. It's (a little) rude to hide the destination you're asking people to click. The link goes to http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/dyson-table-fan-10-air-mu... which is Dyson's fan.
I use it almost every day to make calls and listen to/respond to texts while driving.
One of the primary protections against the will of the masses regarding policy was the election of senators by the state legislatures. The Founders saw the value in a House of Lords / upper chamber that was not _directly_ beholden to the whims of the people, but rather to the states themselves.

That's been gone a long time now, and what we've got are more-powerful, longer-termed representatives sitting in the Senate.

I don't claim that abolishing the 17th will fix much now, but it probably would have helped significantly over the last 100 years.
And I have no problem with them opting in to have their lives and data tracked. The real problem is that everyone is tracked, including those in the minority who do not want their lives and data tracked. But such is democracy.
[EDIT: OK, it appears that Wikipedia is more charitable than other sites in choosing with of Klayman's efforts to highlight. Mea culpa.]

Klayman is severely partisan, for sure, but is there any evidence that he deals in falsehoods?

Yes, sadly, the most energetic fighters are fighting one one side, instead of justice in generally.

But I'd rather have Klayman attacking Democrats for legitimate gripes, and Larry Flynt attacking Republicans for legitimate gripes, than practically getting nothing done because EFF is too boring to get support and non-partisans never get enough influence in general.
This completely misses the point

What you say isn't something to hide, it's information you can use against me if you are able to hide how did you use it.

But if i can know who tries to access my account anytime, i don't need that password in the first place! Try doing something fishy, and i'll track you down:)
That does kill it.. for everyone who requires more than 64GB of RAM..
I get the sense that this doesn't surprise you. My question is: why would it surprise anyone? It's not just that most Americans don't believe they have anything to hide from NSA. It's that they don't have anything to hide from NSA. I'm not invoking the fallacious "nothing to hide" argument; I have stuff I need to keep hidden. But most people really don't, and especially not from NSA.
He's not a total sideshow: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinto....
Interesting that all of the demo pictures are with the white iPhone.
I'm fairly certain that if you're in the midst of typing and accidentally press that mic "Siri" key on the keyboard, it presses the space bar anyway. I just tried it again and unless I pause my typing and press it, it just normally spaces.
That is only nautilus-dropbox (file manager integration) and the installer. Dropbox itself is distributed as a binary blob.
[Ricardo Semler](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricardo_Semler) is pretty inspiring entrepreneur with his work in democratizing his company. But he's also been experimenting with education at [Lumiar](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/3326447/L...) in Brazil.

In one article I've read about the school, instead of rote learning about pi and circles, they'll encourage the students to make their own bicycle. And through finding "projects" that the kids want to work on, the students bump into having to learn things like: "how do I measuring the circumference of a circle".
> The more current or former DC insiders fight against what's going on the better.

Klayman was never a real insider. He was an AUSA -- far from a significant insider -- in the Reagan Administration, and has spent most of the time since in one lawsuit or another, either against Democrats, against private organizations he perceived of taking insufficiently conservative political actions, or against the first of the "watchdog" groups he founded (Judicial Watch).
One aspect of stories such as this is that the need to spin them is an essential component.

Universal surveillance / Assured liberty, to span both sides of this coin, are concepts which can only be sold if people believe in them. There are deep interests on either side of this debate, and one thing they're going to try to do is grab hold of the debate and steer it using language and concepts which are as charged as possible.

Plus there are plenty of idiots whole glom onto such concepts and repeat unverified information and sheer speculation. I'm exercising my user-tagging features heavily at the moment (no on HN, clearly, but elsewhere).
Classically, White has been consumer grade and black has been the professional grade in Apple design. See iPhoto vs Aperture, or iMovie vs Final Cut Pro. The Macbooks were all white, while the pros were (admittedly not black, but) metallic. I don't think it is that much of a change from what they've already projected out there.
I think it's a complete own goal to oppose "nothing to hide" by keeping the discussion firmly planted in shame/controversy.

The most vanilla, non-controversial, fact, like that your favourite colour is blue, is no business of those you don't choose.

Privacy should be the default expectation, not something granted to you as a reward for convincing emotional pleading.
Does anyone else find it ironic that they couldn't detect Snowdon communicating with Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras?
http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/

not really :) see the "control center" pic there, same icons... i think... plus a mother of pearl background on the dialog... ugh.
I don't understand the logic behind this comment. Surveillance against criminals doesn't work if the criminals have to opt-in to the surveillance.
Yeah, I know nothing about this area (so this is just speculation, ignore it as such if you wish), but it seems getting a firehose feed of all traffic would be easier and less exposure prone, than getting every ISP to allow a MITM and having absolutely no one in the computer security industry notice. Don't get me wrong, I would prefer a MITM, at least then you know they haven't broken crypto that is widely believed secure, the alternative is a bit scarier :)
"Where is the nearest Starbucks?"

"I don't understand 'Near Mint Star Monks'"

"IIIIII NEEEEED DIIIIREECTIOOONS TOOOOOO TTTHHHEEEE NEEEEAAARRESSTT STTTAAARRRBBBBUUUUCCCKKKSSS"

<Siri does nothing>

<ask again>

"Getting directions to Starbucks"

I use it for that - and similar - with some regularity. Faster than pulling over and safer than typing.

I've found it pretty useless for anything else.
I think that people like us (that is, people who think in a systems fashion about the electronic communications networks and the data flowing over them) are more likely to view this with alarm than the normals. I think that's because we actually know how much power having things like metadata gives you. The question is, how do we explain this to non-engineers in a way that they will listen to so that they will be as alarmed as we know they should be?
This is awesome. One of the primary reasons many people had to setup an LLC or something similar to ship a paid app was because you couldn't easily transfer later for tax purposes. Glad to see they removed this!
I'm talking about the "new Mac Pro". The existing one a better piece of kit if you ask me.

You can change the CPUs officially with the HP. I doubt Apple will offer that option.

My current "workstation" is configured with 2x 4 core Xeons, 32Gb of RAM, 2x Samsung 840's, a 5 drive SAS array, a 32Gb PCIe RAMdisk and 2 Quadro cards. That won't fit in the new Mac Pro...
Why not 32gb dimms?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226...
The fact that only 1/10 of my requests to HN are going through is surely not helping...
only have an 3Gs to test the browser rendering.
> I always assumed the GRE must have been designed to accommodate/calibrated to humanities and social science grad students (or other majors without a significant math component) more than STEM students.

This is probably true. I mean, this is why we have GRE subject tests...
"In April 2011, Klayman filed a lawsuit against Facebook, accusing the social media website of "negligence" for not responding quickly enough to calls to take down an anti-Israel "Third Intifada" page and demanding $1 billion in damages."
"...consumer junk..."

"...New generation Xeon E5..."

???
You can't, because a rebellion/revolution is a potentiality. Sure, it seemed unlikely, but now not so much.

Would I criticize someone for not locking their front door? No. Locks only keep honest people honest, and the chances of your property being broken into are fairly slim.

Would I criticize someone for preparing themselves for a collapse/rebellion/revolution of some kind? Absolutely not. The cost of not doing so is much higher than lost possessions. Rights, Your life, etc...

The main thing to take away from this, is that you can't know for sure, and everybody reacts to those percentages differently. It's better to be safe than sorry, or you can live fast and die young without worries.

I should note that the duality above can be taken in both contexts.
I'm getting frequent Nginix errors posting or deleting comments at the moment, though actions appear to complete.
A comment posted twice showed as "dead". I deleted the dupe and got the error again.
Precisely. No one has taken the real human usability of the box design into question for far too long.

The cylinder doesn't inform a way of using it, it invites multiple. I picture myself using it "sideways," half turned for easy access/cable management.

Rack mounting will require innovation as well, but imagine how densely you could pack them and how dynamic you could make the cooling.

A single fan in a workstation machine. Unbelievable.
Probably even a bigger risk when the UI is completely different.
That would work fine, if all the NSA did was sniff traffic on the backbones.
Tell me he's not a criminal liar after watching this.

Barack Obama: 10 Questions: Warrantless Wiretaps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6fnfVJzZT4
until ppl get problems, they have no idea what the nsa does with the data.
if they have no idea and get no problem, "why would it bother them?"

that yeah. its like if i had the right to sentence anybody on earth to death, but i wasn't doing it too often, and when i do it, nobody has any idea it happened.
So people would think its ok.
Including the parent comment on the "Request Features" story. Quite likely this reply as well.

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Unless you're actively thrashing through all 32GB (maybe you are), wouldn't installing a large SSD for swap space will help you out just as much?
Depends on the types of people who are likely to give up their phone number for national political polling reasons, and in that subset, I'd think that is hardly random.
I often jokingly tell a specific friend that I'll murder him (he says the same to me)... it wouldn't be clear if you read the e-mail correspondences that we're joking. It would be clear if you saw us in real life joking, laughing... but you don't have that context, you don't know the history of my relationship with him, we're both practitioners of an absurdist brand of humour (think adultswim's Tim&Eric humour). Compound all of this with the fact that I'm brown (Asian descendant) and that a running brand of jokes is about terrorism ('yeah so we have AQ training camps in our basement') -- and, I'm sure we're setting off a good amount of triggers.

Here is what is unnerving to me: considering the high-capacity storage capabilities of these three-letter agencies, it's highly likely that a lot of our data has already been copied... it's little use disabling our fb/goog accounts, it's little use deleting everything en masse now.

Anyway, my takeaway from all of this is that 1) I have to stop making these jokes, even in private conversations, and 2) communicate more clearly in my e-mails, so that if it's being read by someone with no context, it does not invoke any suspicions to wrongdoing of any sort. I am extremely annoyed that I have to start doing this, but I will.
"Mavericks" is different than both the singular noun/adjective found in Ubuntu, "Maverick" and the plural adjective/noun NBA team, "Mavericks". It is a singular place name - "Mavericks". Cook got it mixed up a few times in the keynote too. It's a tricky one to use...
What? I'm pretty sure it's not available until the fall.