skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
I've seen BBC articles referencing Reddit (and even Hacker News !! ).
"the amount of drama on HN"

Is it homogenous and if not, is it still a problem?

My very quick glance at the situation looks like someone's not too happy about getting savaged because he positions himself as a lightning rod in the past and was writing about a fluffy social topic relating to a fluffy social issue in a fluffy social arena. The whole steaming pile does not sound like HN-type material. OK, I don't particularly care.

What I do care is the air is kept clean for a real "hacker" "news" technical article like "Nimrod 0.9.2 released". I don't even use Nimrod and I found it an interesting article and discussion. A tad flamey around the unicode spat, but unicode is a magnet for that kind of thing and even the tiny little flame (like a birthday candle) was vaguely technical and interesting so its at least semi-excusable. Overall a fine quality article, perhaps because all the "yer mom" comments fresh from 4chan were magnetically attracted to fluffy unicorn social hour over there, keeping them away from the "real" articles.

There are numerous other "hacker news" articles I could have used as an example of genuine hacker news. But fluffy unicorn social hour decoy articles are fairly rare. So we're in no danger of being overrun.

The TLDR being that periodic (intentional?) seeding of HN with drama, kept carefully firewalled away from the real articles, keeps the air clean.
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I've a free account - so I open it once in a while. Had enquired some time ago and figured you guys don't host email, rather forward or sth[1]. Still that's the case?

I have also read somewhere that you provide XMPP (or not?) but there's nothing like chat history[2]. Status - etc? I'm not very much familar with XMPP as in what it supports and what not.

Why does it want to me to have a FastMail email address where as all I am going to have is a user-name@my-domain.com. That's an extra Email ID to take care of or it's useless anyway if I'm not supposed to use it other than logging in, or is it[1]^.
Looks like this is available in Family and Business account. That's odd. What's the point? Can you please provide a full side by comparison of Family - Biz - Enhanced - Premier?

Maximum attachment size is sth that ought to be at least 100MB (or 200MB in today's Internet) but that can be tolerated with Dropbox, CloudApp and all around.

One good thing is, I can use many domains in same account for just one price, this very attractive if I've read it right and seems you are a webhost too. Well, too many things.

I'm tempted but it doesn't seem to be a replacement for my mail-task-calendar-IM workflow which is very integrated and crucial.

Any words on that? And also, regarding [1]^, so you guys are nor email hosts as in email hosts now - just to confirm?

Glad to talk to someone directly at FM and not inside a support ticket.

[2] - saved as email, covered.
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What depresses me is the endless introspection as displayed by this thread. The constant need to include everyone as belonging to some enlightened community just for owning a username.
There is no federated client-independent IM future with Hangouts because the Hangout model does not map to instant messaging. It's not about protocol support.
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Yes. But as far as I know, the GTalk client in Gmail is able to talk to Hangout users, but random XMPP clients are not.
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The author of the submitted blog post writes,

"One of the main reasons it doesn't work is that people don't ask questions to clarify. They jump to conclusions, some of which are very wrong."

I think that is the nub of the issue. People who are genuinely curious about an issue try to find out more. I routinely upvote comments here on any subject that ask for more information or more sources on factual statements made in articles submitted to HN or factual statements made in comments. We don't all have the same background in life experience and formal education, and I often learn new facts about the world from other Hacker News participants. I can't always assume that I understand another person's comment on the first read. Moreover, quite a few participants here write English as a second language. (How many Americans can write in ANY language besides English?) So sometimes the first thing to do when replying to an article submitted to HN is to ask follow-up questions. Another good thing to do is to point to other sources, if you know of any, for more information.

Civility is a core value of Paul Graham, the founder of Hacker News. He wants us to be able to disagree politely

http://paulgraham.com/disagree.html

when we do disagree, and the Hacker News welcome message

http://ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

distills the basic rules of the site into a simple statement: "Essentially there are two rules here: don't post or upvote crap links, and don't be rude or dumb in comment threads."

Don't be rude. Don't be mean. That's not easy, but that is the community guideline here. Or maybe not being mean or rude IS easy, if you practice it. It's worth finding out how much we could all habituate improving our social skills by how we behave here on Hacker News.

AFTER EDIT: It's worth pointing out that I wrote all of the above part of what I wrote before I really wrapped my mind around the fact that, after all, the submitted blog post comes from Dave Winer, whose blog posts I have been reading for more than a decade. I still stand by my statement that we may all as well be as civil as we possibly can and as factual as we possibly can here on Hacker News. This is a community we can all improve by our individual actions. That said, I think Dave Winer and plenty of other bloggers have plenty to learn from the best comment threads on Hacker News, the comment threads that most follow pg's aspirations for this site, precisely because there is a back-and-forth in the comments and a fact-checking that many bloggers shy away from. The difference between a blogger and a journalist is that a journalist is a reporter who writes for an editor. Sometimes bloggers write only for themselves, and when they do, they can learn from comments, if only they are willing to do so. When a blogger writes about another public figure, the blogger has to be able to take the heat, or maybe the blogger should find another kitchen.
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I recently went through this with somebody close to me. Don't forget that doctors, nurses, etc ... can't always save somebodies life, but can only prolong or make it better. You too, can make somebodies life better in many, many ways and that is as important as anything else.
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You cannot be serious. Just because you happen to own the property does not give you absolute rights. What you are arguing against is called zoning and the legality of that is very well settled.

The tannery example is pretty apt here - what right do you have to run a foul smelling eyesore right beside the property where I'm attempting to raise a family?
I don't think it will work. Watson roughly works this way (of course it's much more sophisticated than that):

1- Identify the type of entity of the answer (does the question start with "who" ? or "when" ? etc.

2- Gather as many facts and blobs related to the question from Wikipedia, etc.

3- Intersect these facts with the entity type, and answer.

I don't believe you can provide useful customer service with that. 90% of the times, customers complain about something wrong with their account, like Paypal holding a payment. They don't need or expect fact-based answers like the ones Watson knows how to answer.
Yup, I also felt bad when I saw folks laying into Mr Winer yesterday. I was going to submit a "hey, be reasonable, lets have less of the ad hominem" but then I saw a few people had already done that. Of course, I voted those up.

But the real problem is also one of the unique features of HN; I couldn't flag or vote down any of the offending comments because I don't have enough karma. That's a shame, because it feels like I just have to sit on my hands and watch the bile flow. I think this makes the world appear rather worse than it is to anyone watching...
I would bet that thousands of New Yorkers who use Airbnb to make ends meet think otherwise.
I'm sorry, I'm unclear--are people supposed to just stand around to accept the abuse of Internet strangers?
The difference is consent.

Now, of course, that sparks off a question about whether submitting your post or your startup to HN is de facto consenting to be verbally abused. But I think that's a pretty useful conversation to have.
I will confess, that was a bit over the top, and the main reason I deleted the original comment; but much like many people who criticized Linus's comment, it was also out of context. Negativity comes in many forms, selective quoting is just one.
I can see what you're saying, and I don't want to belabor it to death. But as the UX guy, a persona is what nails down the problem before ever coming to a solution.

Maybe we're talking about different types of personas. The question I'd ask from the very beginning is "who are we building this for and what problem is it going to solve?" And adding a little definition to the "who" and what problem they have is the first step in building anything, and making sure you don't waste time.

In the end, from day 1, from the first utterance of what your startup is about, you're building something for a human. Without empathy, you can't build the right product. And you can't empathize without personas. It's not even really a question of user experience, or user interface, it's just about nailing down the human problem.
These promises don't matter at all, once they are acquired they are owned by Yahoo and their fate is at the hands of the owner - flickr went through it , many others did, it's a predictable story
The site seems to be down. Here is cached version:
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> What if that email was to a female kernel dev?

So it is okay to swear at men but not at women? Why in this context?

Really, this is ridiculous. Why would something become acceptable/inacceptable simply because of the gender/religion/haircolour/height/taste in music of the recipient?
Happens to the best of them... thanks for the detailed writeup guys. Love the service.
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There are also entirely passive self-inflating mattresses out there. They're filled with (solid-gas) foam that expands when you open the valve. Close the valve and it's ready to go. You store the energy for pumping when you deflate the mattress by rolling it back up. It's much easier to provide energy by sitting on something than by blowing into it :)

I don't know the brand name, only that they were old and worn by the time I was using them as a kid. They must have been commercially available around 1990.
You can cut out a lot of bullshit without being an asshole; it's just another set of social skills.

Being an asshole also doesn't inherently cut out bullshit.
I often see the 'honesty' argument when people talk about the programmer community being mean. The way I see it, most of the time there is no more honesty than anywhere else. People jump on some hate bandwagon whether it is bullshit or not. Or sometimes, there is just some fad going on and everyone jump on the love train where critical thinking is met with a defensive/reactionary attitude.
The sooner people understand that anti-social behaviour is about community and not about rights the better, but I still see people confusing the two. Yes you've got a right to be rude, you've also got a right to blather on for two hours about Dragonball Z. Both behaviours will leave adults concluding that you're not capable of mature discussion.
And if you and your mates establish a norm of anti-social behaviour, you will neatly exclude large portions of the population including most women, most children and most men over 30.

If, on the other hand, you want an intelligent conversation about tech and startups with the largest number of intelligent people, I suggest that we should all talk a bit more like Paul Graham and a bit less like a 14-year old playing Call of Duty (or, for that matter, Linus Torvalds)
> I write to my standard. You write to yours. We each get little buttons where people vote. That's the deal.

But that's also the problem. HN has a way of rewarding toxic comments. I particularly notice this in drive-by-comments where presumably-long-time users create a new account just to make a flame post. Turns out, this kind of cloak and dagger isn't even needed most of the time, because you can see how they're getting rewarded for this.

Is that really the kind of community we want to be?

I'm far from saying your standard sucks, by the way. You can sometimes come across as very harsh, and so can I - but I don't think our comments were the lowest ones yesterday. Still, I must admit that in hindsight I wish I would have done better.

> So he's going to demand people be impressed – and I'm going to demand they think for themselves.

I didn't see it that way. I think what should be demanded is a more constructive discussion with less ad hominem attacks. Constructive doesn't mean worshipping or even praising, it means discussing based on merit and facts.

I also believe we could demand less pettiness of ourselves. For example, a minute ago someone just downvoted all the comments I made today. That may be a valid interaction, but it reeks of vindictiveness. It might have been more productive to invest that same effort into posting a dissenting opinion.
You fix it with heavy-handed moderation that actively punishes curtly written content.
Typed "fav". Hit Tab. Did not complete. Wat.
I see, so basically Google made a completely non XMPP service (Hangout), and made a bridge between Google Talk (XMPP service) and Hangout. So users of Hangout are cut off from the XMPP network (except for the Google Talk part of it).

So if Google plans to kill Google Talk server and force all its users to switch to Hangout, it means all Google users will be cut off from the XMPP network. Way to go Google, on the road to evilness.
The simple solution would be to weight votes (upvotes and downvotes) by a function of karma, so that the upvotes from lower-karma new users that can't yet downvote would be less powerful than downvotes from longer-established users.

(OTOH, that could have undesirable side effects, as it could, outside the domain of managing tone, result in a strong bias for older technologies and against new technologies, if it is the case that, on average, technical folks have a tendency to get attached to the technologies that were "hot" when they were establishing themselves and prone to seeing newer technologies as threats -- that's something I've seen enough to suspect it is a general, though far from universal, trend.)
Revoke his maintainer status and fix the problem? Then give him a second chance sometime later. I'm sure that verbal abuse, especially in public, isn't the only solution.
> What if that email was to a female kernel dev?

Are you saying men can't suck dick?
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"Haskell and LISP both have minimal syntax compared to C++, C# and Java". I agree that LISP does but I can't really say the same thing for Haskell, especially when you get into the whole monad stuff...
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I did say 'like' an Instaflater - it's the mechanism I meant. The thermarest pump sack doubles as a stuff sack, so it's not dead weight like the Instaflater.

I'm a bike tourer, not a backpacker, so I tend to shave weight when I can drop a pound not an ounce - carrying that isn't a big deal.

But yeah, 24oz and R 1 is pretty bad.
>I didn't get a chance to read the comments on the Mayer article (feel free someone to reply a HN link).

Here you go: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5738455
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Dave is the victim?

"They assumed that I was being "egotistical" for thinking that Google ever cared what I thought, and arrogant that I think they should care what I think now."

As this might be about me, as I wrote "No, it's typical for your ego."

Several years ago I've sent Dave mails with ideas, which one of them he posted without attribution or credit to his blog. With some mistakes I've made included. In an ongoing mail discussion he credited himself, including the mistakes.

About personal attacks:

The way he handled Marissa on his blog:

"All I remember of it was there came a point in the conversation when Mayer had had enough. She just got up and left. I think the people remaining in the conference room were a little embarassed."

He has no problem making people look bad, especially if it helps getting attention. Getting push back he then follows up presenting himself as the victim. He has also no problem calling other peoples assholes

"Now I think there's a solution to letting the assholes control the conversation..."

in a piece about discussion culture.

Google for "Dave Winer" returns a lot of stories that are similar. Before accepting Daves view on this, I wish people would do some research into Dave Winer.
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Talking about the technical aspects: is this really something Paul Graham can do? Wouldn't blocking inbound links be handled on the client side, perhaps via mod_rewrite or something along those lines? Come to think of it, isn't scripting.com doing exactly this?

Yeah, it's not perfect: it's actually really easy to get around, because all you have to do is copy/paste the link. But the overwhelming majority of the abusers won't even do that much work: they'll assume the link is dead, the nerd-rage will cool off, and they'll go elsewhere, leaving nothing on your site but a line in the server log.
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This pricing model also works for consulting as well. Listen to Obie Fernandez talk about 321-Launch and you'll understand that value of bundling when it comes to consulting services.

Simply put, price yourself high. People will attach value to your work because of this.

Also, from a consulting standpoint:

This accomplishes a few things. It affords you time to spend on non-billable hours such as taxes and filling your pipeline. Finally, adding a 'special sauce' packages allows you to eventually de-commoditize yourself and allow you to start transitioning those jobs that are interchangeable to others under you without your client objecting too strenuously.
It all started with a guy who came to ##apple and asked for help with repairing his computer.

Things... escalated quickly from there, mini-Streisand effect and heavy use of banhammer included.

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Ah, I see. Demos are hard but you did a great job. Very well done.
I did something similar on my site: http://bentruyman.com/ (clicking the little gear or pressing ` on your keyboard).

You can read the source for it here (sorry it's in CoffeeScript):
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I think you missed the point.

Go ahead and repeat that quote to the nearest woman and see if they share your view.
I like it, but before reading the MOTD I'd already typed 'man'. Any chance you could alias 'man' to 'help'? It'd make it more UNIXy... if that's a word.
Most video is badly produced for learning. It meanders slowly and doesn't have onscreen links to the different sections of the video.
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I don't bother with anything but the mouth inflator for my NeoAir. It takes me a total of 15 seconds max. I'm not quite sure what all the fuss is about.
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Would you mind telling me what business and finance communities you've found interesting?
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How he behaves elsewhere is not relevant to people here making direct personal insults.
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It's not OK for anyone (in my opinion). However, because it's a sexualized email sent from a man it would have a not insignificant chance of being interpreted as sexual harassment (i.e., meeting the legal definition for creating a hostile work environment) towards a woman.
Thanks. Very useful stuff, the site looks good too. I have all my savings in a bank account because I have no idea what to do with them. One day I would like to invest part of it, but you know, you need to understand a bit what you are doing there.
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That is because they are much bigger. In general, a larger fan can achieve the same CFM as a smaller fan, but at a lower RPM. Slower spin, quieter operation.
Well for one, Uber has had all kinds of problems being allowed to run taxies for hire in NY, and one of the complaints has been that they don't have a city certified taxi-meter installed.

That regulation might have made sense before GPS enabled smartphones -- especially when said GPS enabled smartphones are the only way to hail an Uber car.

I don't know the reason for banning unlicened hotels, but I imagine that at least one of the examples used were the safety of the cusomers -- that is kinda pointless given that the customer can check out the reviews on AirBNB before he decides to engage in business.
> my mother's partner was diagnosed

What business is this mother in? An accountancy? Perhaps you meant to say spouse?
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I said "used to" for a reason. I picked 2% and the savings account thing just as common points of reference. You're quite right that you need other investment strategies, especially nowadays, but as investment strategies go, 2% remains pretty darn modest and low-risk.
> Why would something become acceptable/inacceptable simply because of the gender/religion/haircolour/height/taste in music of the recipient?

There are some things that might (for instance, a reference that had a widely accepted meaning in general usage but also a specific use in the context of a particular group might be less appropriate to use to a member of that group where the context might be ambiguous enough to support both the group-specific and the more general use, while being perfectly fine otherwise), but I don't really see that being the case for the particular email in question.
I've had this problem with every browser I've tried on both the tablet and the phone. Opera pre-chrome provides the only halfway decent and useable solution.

After reading all the comments on here, I'm pretty sure I won't "upgrade" to their Chrome version anytime soon. It's a shame.
You don't hold Winer in high regard. That fact is not very interesting. Paul Graham's opinion doesn't change that. Fascinating is not communicative. Being unrepentant doesn't make you unique either.

Share your snowflake. Doing so is what makes Winer's blog interesting. Laziness, impatience and hubris - he's like any other programmer, only more so.
I always thought that they had the two platforms reversed. Chrome OS would make a better phone platform, since the always-online nature of phones is a better fit for an OS that needs to be always online (with the exception of the limited offline-mode of some apps). Whereas a laptop device usage pattern (sometimes-online, sometimes-offline) would fit Android better.
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