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>I wrote the piece in 15 minutes. You're spending 48 hours debating every nuance of something that means nothing.

I've seen better defenses from trolls on 4chan.
This is confusing to me, because most of the people I talk to who share their feelings about their looks seem to find themselves less attractive than my estimate. Maybe I'm just systematically overestimating people and they are in turn STILL overestimating themselves, but one has to wonder if this study is really finding what it thinks it's finding.
A lot of ceiling fans can easily be installed on to an existing light fixture by anyone who knows how to connect a few electrical wires together. I'd say the bigger downside is that it's fixed in one location.
You're missing the point, they spent a year to create a toolkit so that you could create something like Snow Fall in about an hour.

"The initial implementation took X people Y months to complete. We've labored hard to create a tool that will let you do the same thing in Z hour(s)."
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Increases barrier to his "I want a paperback" as a simplistic counterpoint. Your sunk cost of "I need a laser printer for other reasons" does not reflect the issue of "I want a paperback," not that "I want a paperback, but I'll settle for buying and printing it myself."
I would not be at all surprised if the Secret Service have their own guest house at Casa Del Nugent, as often as they probably have to stop by for a 'chat.'

But what can you do, the right to wave guns around and hate the government is practically baked into the Constitution (to a point.) A lot of my facebook friends agree with him, and use Glenn Beck as a primary source for all their Obama news, and honestly believe the country would be a better place with fewer laws and more dakka and the White House burned to the ground. I'm Texan, so that kind of thing comes with the territory.

But as long as you don't actually do anything you should be free to say what you like.
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If that's real, then they do make some serious dollars. Indeed, if their profits are really that high, then they are potentially able to match governments on 0day purchasing power.
Although the article is interesting, I think one of the comments is much more "to the point":

What gets me about this ad is that no one understands why the women basically described themselves as trolls and the women they were talking to as goddesses. They're being filmed. They know it, and they know it's being put up somewhere. They don't want to be seen as having an over-inflated ego - they know exactly how it's going to look to the watcher if they describe themselves as more beautiful than they are. They have to have had an idea of what the guy is doing, which means they're going to know there's going to be a sketch hanging next to their real face. Wouldn't you want to look nicer than the sketch?

As for the women they're describing. When a stranger asks you what you think of their hair, have you ever said, "I hate it"? Again, they know that someone is sketching. They describe the other woman in the prettiest terms they can.

This isn't a deep look into their feelings about their actual looks, it's an exercise in self-marketing and politesse.

http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2013/05/dove.html#c031270
None of those examples are anywhere near the sort of specific claims being made on the Soylent site. It's being marketed as a panacea.
Yeah, I'm dumbfounded in more ways than one. Here we have a group of young guys supposedly selling a mysterious powder with no ingredients under the name Soylent of all things. Then I come to the comments and virtually no one has questioned this product as even being real and is instead arguing over whether it's a viable business / safe.
Dart is exactly the language that I think it is.

It is too bad that it doesn't run on many browsers but that isn't going to change.

What is the point of using Dart other than to join Google's garden of ugly walls?
Very true. For libel or slander to make it to court, the plaintiff needs to show that the defendant knew his/her statement to be false. I got a hard lesson in this back in the 90s when I got sued for $2.5m.

In-house counsel is such a pain is butt. I'm dealing with John Deere's law-talkers right now and I feel for you... I'm willing to bet anyone associated with creative at the Times could give a rat's ass about your site... but the lawyers... they have to justify their existence.

Pick your battles.
That shouldn't stop anyone. Dart works fine in every modern browser (and IE9), because you can compile it to JavaScript.

Generating minified Dart code is one line and compiling to minified JS is also just one line. If you do one in your build script, you can also do the other. It's a no-brainer, really.
I'm going out but when I get home I will see what I can do :)
EDIT: I think using websockets + node.js would be a better idea.
I never use such features unless it is really trolling, in which case I expect the flagging system to solve the problem or anti-spam techniques. I don't really like I need protection from people's thoughts, not saying people who want such features do but it's not my thing.
> Most people believe that they are above average, a statistical impossibility

It's perfectly possible for the majority to be above the mean. If most people believed to be above the median, that would be a statistical impossibility.

I think there is another reason for people to believe their results in some areas are better than those of others: because of their own world view. A teacher who focusses on controlling the classroom may see many colleagues be worse at that and decide they're not as good a teacher as him; his colleague who prefers to leave the studying behaviour of his students may think his controlling colleague is not as good a teacher as him because he doesn't leave students enough freedom.
Whether this applies to beauty I don't know - I'd expect it to apply only to aspects that they chose to modify (i.e. someone with dyed hair will probably have dyed their hair in a colour they believe to be more attractive and then believe they're more attractive).
Huge boon for those of us with smaller rooms too - the Wired writeup making the rounds has a 6' tall guy standing 3' from the sensor and having room to spare.

That's my one gripe with the Kinect right now, it just needs too much darn space to work well as a gaming platform.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5369778

Better discussion then I can espouse. Small summary, we don't necessarily know why whole foods > substitutes, but they are, ergo risk of non-intake of whole foods doesn't make sense for some anecdotes of a few startup folks.
you still need to plug a (supported) cable box with hdmi output into the xb1.

my bet is they are going to make use of [1] HDMI-CEC.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC
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People may be showing humility. Also, when you talk to them, you may be measuring something other than their mental self- representation -- maybe they are expressing where they think they are relative to society, whereas the experiment is measuring the delta between self-image and reality.

tl;dr -- You can think yourself ugly, yet still not as ugly as you actually are!
They don't have to support it, Dart compiles to JavaScript.
The study could easily be showing simply that people are inclined to suspend disbelief when it benefits them in the scenario of choosing the picture that they want to be most like them... this isn't the same as saying that someone's self-image is somehow that idealized photo they're willing to suspend disbelief for.
I'm curious what role Tumblr's investors - like you - play in a deal like this. David Karp, his vision, and his team are a huge part of the tumblr value. Does Yahoo! also benefit from the mentorship and experience that you guys provide?
That's why you start a company. Build a good looking product, that will really never make money, and pimp your team to all larger companies. Maybe one will bite, and will buy your company (basically hiring bonuses).
The medical applications of this will be wide, with a heart rate monitor, the wide angle and being able to detect old people falling etc. I hope they release the PC drivers and sell a standalone Kinect 2.0 as soon as this hits the market.
Well, thanks for the spirited discussion, and .. erm, for paying the bill, too!
"Once the price drops to $X, I'll buy one."

This is a naive view of how supply works. If fewer people are buying today this lowers the demand curve. This decreases the amount of the good that will be produced in the first place. You don't get a chance to buy those lost phones later because they never got made.
This effect also holds for one's own estimates that one's startup will not fail.
I understand what you're saying but you are making the classic "protect the kiddies" argument and I'm not sure I can accept your position. I'd rather not live in such a world. Linus' mailing list is different from an email at work.
Baby formula is actually a great example of hundreds of millions of dollars of R&D being unable to duplicate the health benefits of the real thing (in this case, breast milk).
The problem it's trying to solve is that Google's JavaScript optimizing team is hitting the limits of what they can do to speed the language up given the constraints imposed by JS.

They want a replacement language that's more optimization-friendly so that they can continue pushing for faster Web clients.

Given this creator goal, and most programmers' goals of "use a language that better suits my needs," it's not terribly surprising that Dart hasn't seen the kind of community interest that CoffeeScript has.
With Google Plus' new photo enhancement features I fear people will become a bit further disconnected from reality. Neat tech for sure though
Will it?

Plenty of pseudoscientific snake oil products get sold for decades without research and evidence behind it. Colon cleanses, homeopathy, etc.
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> Also, you do not have the right to have your discussion hosted on HN; if pg chose to, he would be well within his own rights to implement a feature like this.

I agree; I wasn't taking a stance on whether or not HN should do so. I was simply pointing out the irony of a blogger protesting about being linked.
Your stats are true when outliers massively move a mean.. but that wouldn't be the case in a distribution like this one... I don't think. I mean it's more appropriate to imagine a normal distribution here with the mean equal to the median because the measurement is totally subjective anyway.
Reminds me of this page: http://www.olsenhome.com/gif/

Which has, conservatively, been around forever

>I worked with the creator of GIF (Steve Wilhite) when I was still employed by CompuServe. Steve always pronounced it "jiff" and would correct those who pronounced it with a hard G. "Choosy developers choose GIF" (spinning off of a historically popular peanut butter commercial).
Does this bill say anything on making green card process quicker for Indians/Chinese citizens?
| Anyhow it's an unfair comparison because
| NYT actually had to come up with this idea,
| he just had to replicate it.

No it's not. It could be worded better, but the gist is:

The NYT spend a bunch of time and money to create
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> a bill for the time he spent locked up in prison on trumped up charges?

Am I reading this right? Are you saying that they charge you for time you spend involuntarily in prison?
It's quite clear the Soylent folks haven't. From their FAQ:

"Is it safe? We have been testing Soylent on ourselves for several months and the data shows it to have a positive nutritional benefit."

The well established, scientific method is a double-blind clinical trial, in which neither patient nor investigator know whether the patient is receiving the substance being tested or the control substance.
This all might be explained by one factor: the amount of detail in the image. Well, that and the fact that most people seem to think that smooth featureless faces are more attractive. If you're familiar with your own face over time, you'll tend to overlook details since they change. If you meet someone just once, you might remember more specific features.

Also, something odd between these two studies: in one, people think they are more attractive than other people do, and in the other it's the opposite. This could be explained by people glossing over details when they describe a new face to someone else, while their own brain still has an image of the details that they would recognize later.
No link. As far as I know, no reporter has ever cared about the story and so it is reported nowhere.

I know about it because the guy was married to my half-sibling's half-sibling. Unsurprisingly, they are now getting divorced. My family is involved in various ways, including a custody battle.

The whole thing is a clusterfuck that I want to keep my distance from, but can't help hearing about. I'll just say that if you run into a statistic like, "70% of natives on that reservation are alcoholics" - well there are REASONS why they are driven to drink. :-(
I am opposed as it is implemented in some cases algorithmicly and I've been hellbanned for using the wrong brand name in an on topic comment.

I don't use brand names in comments anymore.
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Does it strike anyone else as odd that everyone in the Silicon Valley software industry has nearly unanimous views on social policy? I've never been to Silicon Valley, but I have spent my entire life and career among engineers, and I have observed diverse views on such issues as gay marriage, climate change, abortion, etc.
Dart runs on IE >= 9, Firefox, Safari and Chrome. Why is that "too bad"?
Yes.

That surprised me as well.
Many of the libraries I've helped write are server-only, you can see a list of them at: https://github.com/Dartist

Although Dart on the server is still in its early stages so you might not find all the libraries you need, e.g. I ended up writing my own Redis Client (https://github.com/dartist/redis_client) since there were fewer mature options. All the server APIs are there for you to build a node-like server, it's just the web frameworks and view engines are currently lacking so you might find yourself having to write more frameworks/libraries than you would otherwise on node (which is a lot more mature atm).

I'm hoping after the Dart team finish the work on integrating the Dart VM into Chrome that they'll focus on the server-side of the "full stack" and provide support for App Engine, incidentally star this issue if you would like to see support for this sooner: https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6...
Think about the culture you want to create. Who do you want to attract as customers? How will they be able to express themselves? And how will they find others they're interested in?

If you're thinking actual social space startup, that's a HARD row to hoe right now, unless you have a really crystal-clear new idea. It's a mature, saturated market that isn't in terrible need of disruption that I can see. The only really interesting entry in that field that I've heard of lately is Bang With Friends.
Just like V8, the Dart VM doesn't have an interpreter. The code is directly compiled to (fairly crude) machine code. Later, the hot parts are replaced with better machine code.
Attract women first. That's all that matters.
CBCs and chem panels are useful for diagnosing disorders, but they're hardly something you can use to determine "oh you're healthier than your previous also-healthy state".
All of those seem like valid reasons for you to not back the project.
Technically, "average" is not a precise term, and can also be used to refer to the median or the mode. In a situation like attractiveness, the median and mean are likely to be approximately equal, so the distinction isn't very important.
Which Internet services can you pay for that makes using it better? 
eg.) VPN Or membership to private torrent site<p>More for personal use than professional.
That's not the only problem Dart is trying to solve. Productivity and the ability to build good tools for the language are huge factors in Dart's design.

That's why it has libraries, type annotations, a declarative top-level structure, and some of the reason for closed objects. Good tools for Dart are _much_ easier to write than tools for a very dynamic language.
I think it's broken. It's been repeatedly spinning through my contacts for 30 minutes so far, switching between 0 and 10 in line as it goes.
My immediate reaction was that the problem with the commercial was the artist's bias.

He knew what the commercial was supposed to be. He knew whether he was drawing from a self-description or a description by a third-party.

So, naturally, he drew more attractive pictures when a third-party was describing the person.
"that's Frahn-ken-steen."
Let's not pretend that Google's open source products in any way follow an open development process. Do you notice anything in common about the recent committers?

http://code.google.com/p/dart/source/list

http://code.google.com/p/closure-compiler/source/list

http://code.google.com/p/closure-library/source/list

Their development is very much insular. That's not to say it's a poor idea to depend on these products, but they don't compare to projects like Python with formal processes for revisions (PEP) or at least some discussion.

It would be nice if Google maintained mirrors on Github and accepted pull requests and such, but I don't see that ever happening.
I realized this is getting downvoted because I didn't put it up in the IRC thread, where I originally attempted.

An uptight taddle-tale handles something poorly in IRC. Completely textbook.
CRM options for early-stage B2B startups?
What are some interesting CRM options for early-stage B2B startups? What are good questions to ask or features to seek? And what problems have you encountered with the CRM solutions you've tried?
I think standalone Kinect, compatible with Windows PC is coming. This will be huge, I agree.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/21/4353868/microsofts-new-kin...
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The Dove commercial is hardly a 'study,' I'm quite sure they determined the outcome before filming.
This isn't really a constructive observation. When MS was dominant, plenty of people still used Office. It didn't mean they didn't recognize that MS acted like a monopolist in a lot of ways. And it didn't mean that every aspect of MS was the same.
thanks for the kind words! my team is nothing w/o the incredible teams -- design, editorial, biz -- we work with every day. few names make it into the bright parallaxing lights of the final product, but really, everyone touches it, even if indirectly or tangentially.
For more detail on how the heartbeat detection works read "Eulerian Video Magnification for Revealing Subtle Changes in the World"

http://people.csail.mit.edu/mrub/vidmag/
> it requires significantly more work to do so

Google OAuth:

1. Click on the red button
2. Log in to Google if you're not already logged in
3. Authorize your website
4. Done

Just creating an account:

1. Click on the gray button
2. Let your browser fill in your name and email
3. Let LastPass generate a random password
4. Done

It's not a particularly complicated workflow if you're used to it. This is a challenge for anyone who is trying to become a universal identity provider: they need to make it significantly easier than the decades-old alternative.
I don't think this study supports the article's headline. That headline, more explicitly stated is: "[Society rates you as] less beautiful than you [do]". Why? Someone's physical beauty is a property that depends on what everyone thinks. You could say "beauty to a certain group" or "beauty to yourself", but to just use the term "beauty" by itself implies "beauty as society sees it".

But in the study, there is no rating by others, simply by yourself. So if you really wanted to make a statement about people actually being more or less beautiful than they themselves think they are, you would need a way for someone to assess themselves as if they were a stranger. I know a few times when I looked at a mirror and didn't immediately process that it was a mirror, I saw myself "objectively". I wonder if there's some way you could incorporate that phenomenon into a study. I would also suggest amnesia patients who have forgotten what they look like but 1) I don't know if that happens 2) people with amnesia can still remember things in a certain way (like how to play the piano), so I don't know if that would affect their own rating as well.

People studies are hard because there are just so many factors that affect the results, and it's not always intuitive what affects what. Really, most of these studies only directly support exactly what they tested, in this case: people choose the most attractive version of themselves when presented with different variations.
I don't care what the creator of the format says.
I'm using the hard g.
The only thing pronounced is how aged and antiquated the format is.
> Unfortunately, I don't think such a study is runnable. How do you blind 'oil-sludge' against 'real food'?

If nothing else, it could be compared to something like formula that's used to keep folks on feeding tubes alive.
Theres a huge difference between something being statistically impossible, and something being statisticly impossible, assuming it is a normal distribution.
The JavaScript output runs on all of those browsers, but only Chrome (or actually the special "Dartium" version of Chrome) has a VM to run Dart code directly.
Anyone else pick up on the fact that they claim to be allergen free? They use whey protein in the drink, so way are they even close to allergen free.

They also have a poor understanding of what constitutes an allergen.
Who is the audience for Dart? Clearly it is first and foremost Google, whose programmers spend their days writing Java and C++ in an IDE like Eclipse. But web developers, who are the primary producers of JavaScript, will happily stick with Node.js, CoffeeScript, or plain JavaScript.

For that audience, they are given a language with optional static typing (most don't want it) and an Eclipse-based editor (most don't want it).

By way of contrast, consider Go. Go is (in my opinion) an extremely successful successor to C, in terms of its design. It fixes a handful of problems with C (strings, and I would argue pointer arithmetic), and modernizes and streamlines it. The interface system is fantastic. In terms of its design, I have nothing but good things to say about Go.

Dart does not seem to improve on JavaScript in a compelling way. It adds optional static typing, and as far as I can tell, nothing else.

Is it any surprise that Dart has failed to take off?
Well said. Reserve free speech for Texas.
Not necessarily. If you are a US citizen and all your commu ovations are with US citizens, then mostly what you expect happens. But if you are a non-US citizen passing data through the US, different laws apply. AANAL, so I will not quote specifics, but I do believe that your advice might not be accurate and warrants more research.
Going to Washington won't disrupt politics.

IGNORING Washington will disrupt politics. Create an alternative center of power - one that values freedom and meritocracy. That means being independent of Big Money as well as Big Politics.
Although I imagine that if founders were told to describe each other's business plans the results would be far less flattering.