skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Hmm he may have grounds for a lawsuit for wrongful termination then?
Freedom of speech (in the United States, according to the Constitution and historical rulings of the Supreme Court) is freedom from government intervention in political and artistic speech, not permission to make lewd jokes and be free of private or personal consequences.
My favorite text editor font (Letter Gothic) was originally designed for the Selectric.

http://www.fontshop.com/fonts/downloads/monotype/letter_goth... (that link isn't the monospaced variant, don't get it, but a good visual representation)
Pretty obvious they fired the wrong person here. If someone worked for me and posted inflammatory images/statements about/involving a co-worker they would be the one needing to worry about their job.
> And to be perfectly transparent, I usually ignore it all. I'm one who pretty much defaults to giving women a pass because of all the stupid shit they've dealt with over a long history of men being complete assholes. I mean, really. A woman could make the most sexist comment I've ever heard and I'd just give it a shrug; but I'd say shit to a man if he was even obliquely offensive.

I don't disagree with most of what you're saying, but this really comes across as hypocritical. This is fostering a double standard.
"Freedom of speech" is only applicable in the context of a government acting towards its citizens. It has zero bearing whatsoever on interactions between citizens that the government doesn't get involved in.
You could sue them for damages/costs for knowingly sending a false DMCA take-down notice. "Knowingly" is unfortunately a high bar--they could plead "stupidity."
Ok, yes, that's an extremely great and open-source way to handle this.

But seriously, can we at least expect moderately stable releases? I do not think that's too much to ask, especially for a framework which has, in the past, achieved that.
Who got harmed by this joke being told? No one, thus it's harmless.
From Adria's post: http://butyoureagirl.com/14015/forking-and-dongle-jokes-dont...

I stood up slowly, turned around and took three, clear photos. I said back down, did another gut check and started composing a tweet.
Three things came to me: act, speak and confront in the moment.
I decided to do things differently this time and didn’t say anything to them directly.

The true "forking" meaning was described in the HN post by the one who was fired.
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No, this was added explicitly to give people a way to bypass the call to action.
This is what happens in democracies. The local councils and city governments open their doors and drool over anyone willing to buy property. Property price rises and thus increases the revenues they can bring in any play with. There is almost no incentive for a government to keep housing affordable. Then we end up with disenfranchisement on the scale of London's: Londoners and actual British citizens and residents are told kindly to screw off while the billionaires build their playground and stash away their dirty money. You see this in Vancouver, Sydney, Hong Kong, New York; the list goes on.
Evernote is a very successful company with a successful business model and whilst I don't expect them to outlast humanity I do expect at least a few years.

Google has a well established record now for abandoning projects. Especially those that are free.
The whole point of this thread is that startups don't typically offer early employees enough equity to justify the combination of risk and often below-market salary.
Hm, maybe I should have been more specific. Given that this is an interesting hack to get a PSTN call to an analogue set through Twilio, why did they bother with the SIP proxy?
It went further than that, though. http://butyoureagirl.com/14015/forking-and-dongle-jokes-dont...
Perhaps I misread you, but you seem to think that this is unfair. Why?
Anyone know whether this is an innovative use of lockscreen widgets by Google, or is this something that's not openly available to other Android devs?

Wondering whether is just a clever app by Google or something that makes it difficult for Evernote et al to compete.
Not sure what you are trying to get at with the phrase "Off the shelf ideology". The fact that other people have thought about this before? If so, I'm not clear why you would think this would be bad - the alternative is convincing yourself that unless you've come up with the idea fully formed yourself, it can't possibly have merit.

I would agree that anyone who blindly follows what someone else has written in a book without bothering to consider whether you really understand it, whether it actually makes sense, and whether it needs to be modified to suit your particular circumstances is clearly not much of a thinker.

But taking and developing ideas originated elsewhere doesn't seem an intrinsically bad thing to be doing.
I think all of us would agree that technology has a sexism problem. However, the environment in 2013 and the way, as a whole, it seems that we have gone about countering it is roughly equivalent to napalming six city blocks to get rid of bedbugs in an apartment. (Edit: On reflection, a better analogy would be napalming New York City to eradicate bedbugs. I am aware of the scope of the sexism problem.)

This little saga merely reminded me that I'm walking from computers after my next position. Gone. Before 35. I'm going to go a career that isn't completely nonsensical, like fishing. I can't imagine I'm the only one. The overcompensation and hypersensitivity to combat sexism in technology is, rather amusingly, making technology even more hostile and demoralizing.

I don't want to read the fallout from a conference any more. This PyCon was apparently so much of a shitshow that I'm glad I didn't go. The decision to ban someone for smoking pot really cracked me up, given who I smoked pot with at PyCon 2012.

This fucking industry. So many double standards and emotional children. It's like I never left high school.
Seriously. Usually Rails feels like riding in an Uber, but this release felt like Crazy Taxi.
What's professional is defined by the context. It would not be professional to wear developer clothes or keep developer times as a bank executive.

In neither context are sexual jokes considered professional. Actually, generally speaking you can be held personally liable for creating a hostile work environment if one of your colleagues if offended by your jokes and you keep making them (assuming you aren't fired for the behavior first). And in case you're hoping that eventually sexual jokes will be permitted, the arrow of history is pointing the opposite direction on that one. Workplace practices and laws used to be much more permissive of sexual conduct ("misconduct" as we would call it today) than they are now.
Ok gotta agree with you both here.
Isn't this classified as slander? He could file a civil suit against this lady for what she allegedly heard, more than likely out of context, and publicly exposed something she had no business eavesdropping anyway.

This man wasn't being immature, he was having a laugh in a personal conversation, and someone wanted to be an internet hero, stand on a soapbox, and project their shitty, self-righteous opinions.

What if he was talking about chaining multiple USB Dongles. It would be a HUGE dongle, and it could theoretically be marketed as a PHALLUS DONGLE.

Please see George Carlin on soft language for further reference..
She has thousands of followers. She is in a powerful position and she abused it. Just because she wasn't the employer doesn't mean her goal wasn't something along these lines. Why else would you post a clear picture of their faces up to a public lynch mob?
Apparently it harmed someone enough that they were willing to complain to twitter about it. There have been a few good articles posted about why many women feel uncomfortable when the workplace is sexualized, especially in male-dominated industries. If you haven't read one, you may want to check into it.
Because nobody explicitly filed a complaint with the PyCon organizers.

I believe the role they've attempted to take is arbitrator, not police officer or enforcement authority. In short, they don't go looking for infractions, but instead deal with them when someone feels wronged.

And they handle themselves extremely professionally from everything I've seen.

Full disclosure, I previously helped organize PyCon, but haven't been actively involved in a few years.

Disclaimer: My opinions are my own and I do not speak for anyone else or any organization in the Python world.
I would love this if I could make it my Chrome start screen.
Well, how can I not believe somebody demanding forthrightness, honesty, and the careful use of social media when they're making anonymous accusations in a way designed to stir up emotions and on-line drama?
http://github.com/hugochinchilla
But it does slow down dev, which doesn't not suck.
Most Europeans must just be laughing and pointing fingers at the insane political correctness in America and more specifically, the hacker community these days. I knew something was fishy from the get-go on this story but waited to see what else would come out of it. Thanks for this post, it articulates my feelings on the situation perfectly. People are outta control these days. We're turning molehills into mountains boys and girls.
So I tried bing.com/news: One result. Even google alerts is providing more.

Next I tried mention.net: 4 results not even related to my search, the rest were all overview sites instead of the article. For example it showed a kickstarter category page as recently updated because it had the search term.

I would love to see a free or paid alternative that works.
>Pension - every company has offered me at least 5% matched pension - some more. The Government is mandating that even small employers will have to put you in a pension scheme soon - which is good.

Not really. Accounting for pensions requires the ability to project economic and biological conditions 20-40 years into the future. Humans aren't capable of this yet, and it results in dealing with fudged numbers (see the myriad pension funding crises around the world).

Another problem with pensions is that they are unaffordable. If they were affordable then you would see private companies offering annuities for sale, for as cheap as what pension actuaries "project" the cost to be. But it's far, far more expensive to buy yourself an annuity, because of tighter regulations in the private insurance market.

Finally, there is no reason to tie up your future with one employer, or the employer's future with old employees. If you want a pension, fine, demand $5,000 cash so you can buy yourself an annuity. But why someone would trust an anonymous person 20 years in the future with their compensation is beyond me. Your pension money can be gambled with, get lost due to corruption, or because it's all invested in the same funds in public companies, required government bailouts of private markets (see 2008 stock market crash).
Why don't put the way the user was logged in by last time in cookie and just highlight it next time for him? Or even more explicit - add the "you have logged in this way last time" under the appropriate button?

Technically that's easy to implement.
Did she want them to be fired ? Cracking a fallus joke might be immature but then putting such random photos on twitter is also equally immature. However whoever fired those who cracked the joke seem to be at fault here.
This is a legal/finance question. Go talk to legal/finance guys about this issue. Why am I passing your question off onto someone else. 1. Getting it wrong by listening to a random forum poster could bankrupt you. 2. Answering questions like this can get people into trouble if "1." happens. 3. Each company needs something different and is unique in structure so your case needs to be looked at due to unique factors you may be subject to that we do not know about from a 4 line message.
So... while I'm almost reluctant to even know because it feeds into a mob mentality we've already seen, what was the company that did the actual firing?
I don't think anyone takes issue with talking to the PyCon organizers and even having them removed from the conference.

The employer made a mistake for sure, but so did your friend. Skewering someone in public on the Internet like that is immature and irresponsible. There are a million better ways she could have dealt with this.
This argument put forth is part of a tautological one its proponents make.

Some of you may be too young to remember the good old, bad old days of the Cold War, but one thing that was supposed to be anathema to Americans were "planned economies". It was proposed, mostly by corporate types and their supporters, that the US should not be a planned economy, it should be an economy like how the US is run - the majority stockholders of corporations make decisions about capital and production.

What happens when production decisions are not planned? There is a risk capital can be spent to create a product no one wants. Isn't that half the discussion on HN - minimal viable products, agile development, and other methods to try to avoid this? Why do the angels, VCs, and now blessed founders deserve so much money? Because they took on risk.

So the VCs tell us we should avoid planned economies and have an economy with risk - where capital is wasted on products no one wants. Then we're told they deserve all of this money because our economy has so much risk. It's a great tautology if you're willing to swallow it.
I sure trust an anonymous pastebin from a throwaway account to make accusations about Adria's 'unfound accusations'.

/s
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Again I would like to point out that to slander somebody, you must tell lies about them. Nobody is claiming that Adria is lying, even the person she's talking about.

She is clearly not slandering anyone.

(Please note: this does not mean that I'm taking a position in any way on this issue)
I want to make a point that may or may not be applicable to this situation.

Talking about sex is not inherently sexist.
Making jokes about sex is not inherently sexist.

It's inappropriate in a large number of places, but that doesn't make it sexist.
Benefits, or lack thereof, is your central point. I'm not quite sure that by comparing a YC-startup to another startup in the same round of funding, especially in the later rounds, it says much about YC or their founders. In fact, I'd argue there is no correlation. When a company has been backed by several investors, the founders don't usually carry a huge weight in deciding the benefits of each of their employees...they most likely listen to their advisors/investors.

If you think a company should offer a higher salary and/or better benefits, then best is to be frank and tell them. Especially since you are experienced and you've been given offers, a simple email or call saying "Hey guys, I think what you're doing is great but there are other companies at the same stage as you giving much better salaries/benefits", I like to think they'd be open to listening and looking to change. A illogical correlation + complaint on HN is not exactly doing yourself or anyone any good.
In the other YC thread the guy who got fired said he and his coworkers were using 'fork' as something they're exciting about forking on GitHub. The woman who posted their picture essentially inferred that they meant something sexual about that.

As for the last point I am pretty sure she herself admitted that she wasn't in the mood to argue with anyone so she just took the picture instead of confronting them about their comments.
Yep, Yahoo! Pipes offers so much and is fun to lay out.
Same here. I was planning to buy a HERO3 Black Edition and several accessories with my tax refund. Not now.

Use DMCA, lose me as a customer.
imo I assign ownership of such policies to the founder(s) specifically rather than the nebulous concept of "companies".
I do need something like this; my Gmail is littered with drafts that I created as notes to myself when I frantically needed to jot something down.

However it would be a thousand times better with time / date / calendar integration. A large percentage of my random notes to myself are reminders to do something by a particular time "pay electricity bill by thursday". Even their example video shows this. Right now I use an app (Voice Calendar) which puts an event in my calendar. However these aren't really events and it pollutes my real calendar with all kinds of junk. I find it weird that despite having awesome email and awesome calendar, Google has really not done a good job of integrating their ecosystem into an exchange-like competitor yet.
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One country doesn't define freedom of speech.
It is a pretty high proportion though (>1M) and the user base is incredibly loyal. Combine with the lock in effect, lack of decent competition and opportunities into enterprise market and you have recipes for a bright future.

And there is no evidence of them selling. It is just FUD.
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While everyone is riled up about Adria Richards getting offended and publicly shaming the person who made a joke about big dongles, you should keep in mind that she did not fire anyone. PlayHaven did.

PlayHaven could have decided to be the responsible party and handle the incident constructively, but they did not want to do that. Even Adria, who still appears to think that the public shaming was a good thing to do, also thinks that PlayHaven should have not fired the person.

So please, if you think firing mr-hank was unreasonable, please let PlayHaven know that, and also how this might affect your image of PlayHaven.

http://www.playhaven.com/contact
Her own phallus joke, as mentioned in the pastie, which she made on Twitter, a much more public venue:

https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/312265091791847425

Incredibly hypocritical on her part.
I agree; as a new grad I don't think about the money (it's all good!) but more so the experience- Will I learn from these people? Will it make me a better engineer?

The two most important factors IMO: the tech and the team.
If it's that, it's flawed. A lot of people will read just the title, not even click through, and assume GoPro has an inferior product and needs those tactics to hide it.

On the other hand, their brand recognition may go up...
Ah, but we already knew TEDx =/= TED
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Starting a 'nerf war' at work is entirely unprofessional, and I hope to never work with someone who is so childish as to think that's reasonable workplace behavior.
These guys keep on innovating !
The 2009 post by Mark Sussman, "Is it Time for You to Earn or Learn?" comes to mind (I think it was recently reposted to HN)

[1] http://www.bothsidesofthetable.com/2009/11/04/is-it-time-for...
Not being able to make sexually explicit jokes in private at a public conference is absolute ludicrous. No question that the offender here is the person posting this out of context and seemingly out of spite.
This is what happens now:

In an all male team we decide to hire a girl. But then someone says "we wont be able to crack fallus jokes anymore? ".

Screw it lets hire a guy ...
> The guy behind me to the far left was saying he didn’t find much value from the logging session that day. I agreed with him so I turned around and said so. He then went onto say that an earlier session he’d been to where the speaker was talking about images and visualization with Python was really good, even if it seemed to him the speaker wasn’t really an expert on images. He said he would be interested in forking the repo and continuing development.

Kinda hard to parse but I assume the guy is one of the two.

Thanks for the forking info
Why wouldn't she approach them directly? This is such a weird interaction.
Salaries in the UK are lower than the Bay Area, but I wouldn't say they're "horrendously low". I can see why that ad would make you think that, though: it really is absurdly low for London, but I don't think it's representative.
Are you ready for the next wave?
As someone who's loving TypeScript, is it a possibility we will see that supported too?
The difference between the UK startup scene & SF has nothing to do with benefits & everything to do with investor culture IMO.
DefCon?
You know, it really is becoming tiring to hear about these people getting offended. Men, women, religious people, <insert adjective here> people alike.
Actually, typically it is defined on a country-by-country basis, because it is the government of each country that is tasked with maintaining it (or not violating it). Since we are talking about a US-based employee and a US-based company, the American definition is the most (only?) relevant one.
After spending a few minutes using the product, I have to agree. It's a very minimal product, but it has extremely poor usability considering it's lack of options. I was only commenting on the expectation for more than a minimal product from Google.
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This just makes me sad, what a hypocrite.
[Amara] worked closely with Doug Engelbart on the proposals that led to Engelbart's history-making Augmentation Research Center.
http://boingboing.net/2008/01/03/roy-amara-forecaster.html

Maynard is mis-remebering, which is understandable since Amara and Engelbart worked together.
I would almost contend there are grounds for a defamation/libel (something... not a lawyer) suit here as well considering her comments have severely hurt his reputation and caused him to lose his job.
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> I cannot, in good conscience, ever do business with a company that supports that behavior.

I think we need to stop doing this bullshit in general. I'd much rather have our community check each other and shame each other on Twitter than having employers step in and decide that thing X or thing Y is not okay for their employees to say in their personal capacity at a conference or on Twitter. As far as I've heard, Adria never asked for these guys to be terminated and personally, I think it was probably inappropriate for them to be. But it's also inappropriate (read: fucking insane) to boycott a company because you don't like what one of their employees posts on their personal twitter account.

Get real.
"While I did make a big dongle joke about a fictional piece hardware that identified as male, no sexual jokes were made about forking. My friends and I had decided forking someone's repo is a new form of flattery (the highest form being implementation) and we were excited about one of the presenters projects; a friend said "I would fork that guys repo" The sexual context was applied by Adria, and not us."
I do a lot of work in both Magento and WordPress and Magento has often been cited as a way of "doing it right" being built on Zend and all. If that's doing it right, I'm happy with doing it wrong.

WordPress is a great way of getting going fast. Probably a lot of guys come upon the thing just about the time a product is ready to be sunset or needs to be introduced to a team. Anything at that point is due a rewrite. I would imagine this experience alone is the cause of much consternation and whatever the product/website would have been built on would be the whipping boy.
I completely agree with your statement, about not pushing older people out.

I want to add that we all have the ability to build on our own. If a company is stupid enough to fire a good engineer for being older, that engineer has the world as his or her playground thereafter. Build something amazing, start a company, do contract work, teach, etc. I'm admittedly a biased advocate of taking matters into your own hands whenever possible.