skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
If it's purely the compartmentalization that upsets you, then you'd be happier if people were totally cool about tossing the Frisbee around with their dog Spot on Saturday, then cooking him up for Sunday dinner. Is that the case?

Anyway, people are a mix of rationality and emotions. We build up emotional attachments to the animals we keep as pets, and get uneasy thinking about using them in meals or experiments.
That was true for Foundation 3, but Foundation 4 is changing the game a bit. ZURB now seems to be focusing more on Mobile-First than Bootstrap: between media queries expanding the mobile site for desktops (rather than slimming the desktop site for mobiles) and switching to Zepto.js by default,which forgoes all Internet Explorer compatibility (though you can switch back to jQuery no problem), Foundation and Bootstrap seem to be diverging.
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While I can't speak for Dropbox and this specific case, we had angry customers like this two or three years ago.

Obviously we were very concerned, and spent days poring over server logs and trying to figure out where the breach was.

Turns out the service we used for newsletters (icontact) had been hacked. They never emailed to let us know. (They had a blog post up for a few days, then removed it, the slimy bastards!)

Since then we've used MailChimp, and had no problems.
I've heard this expressed several different ways, like creating your own job or learning by jumping right in, and it always completely ignores the value of professional experience.

Internships and first jobs are all about learning the realities of the work world and building up your professional network. If you're trying to build a B2B SaaS app, it really helps when you understand at least one of those "B"s instead of just guessing.

There will always be anecdotes of "I started my first business at 14 and have been my own boss ever since" but my (anecdotal) experience shows that most successful entrepreneurs are people who leverage their professional experience and network in order to get their first customers, co-founders, and so forth.
I think your right about learning,"efficiencies and inefficiencies of industry and it can only help you run your operation better."

I have had a couple of internships. One stood out as the best learning experience. It was great to learn sales/client relations. But, most internships focus on only on role.

This is were starting a your own business makes a difference. I co-run a dog treat business. I have learned more in a year than in school or interning.

I advocate doing both. During my internships, I am always asking "why." I am curious to learn why things work a certain way. Running my own business I tend to ask "how." How can I accomplish X task(s).

Obviously, there is crossover. But, I doubt I would have been able to get a business of the ground without some experience.
Definitely. From a technical standpoint, it's Rails app on Heroku (using unicorn), using Sidekiq. I've got a ton of background with Rails and scaling on this platform, though not a lot with Sidekiq. I'm very excited about the possibilities with this though, and I've used redis quite a bit. On our backlog is to do some serious load testing. I'm also quite aware of the recent RapGenius/random routing stuff.

I'm planning to do a series of blog posts about how we built the site and some cool lessons we learned.

From a marketing perspective, the plan is to make an absolutely killer product that developers will enjoy using, and will tell anyone within earshot of it. We also have a couple of cool features that haven't been tried before with push notifications that I think will be intriguing enough to land us some general tech press. I don't have terribly specific scaling plans around marketing yet, as I don't want to put the cart before the horse (i.e. I want to prove there's a product-market fit first, then spend more effort on getting the word out.
This makes a lot of sense, but feels unsavory to me. It's not so different than a drug dealer offering the first taste for free. EA knows that once they've hacked my mesolimbic dopamine reward system I'll pay them - and each payment makes me more invested. At some point it's a lot like gambling.
IOW, they work for Dropbox, they just don't get paid for it.
Reminds me of DARPA using the subconscious human brain as a peripheral for pattern recognition.

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/507826/sentry-system-co...

I wonder whay human brain clusters will be used for? Stock market analysis?
This is most definitely not a coincidence. I can tell because this totally explains the spam in the past few days to my school e-mail address. I too use an e-mail address unique for everything, so I thought school leaked it, but this is the only plausible alternative (had to use the school e-mail address on Dropbox for the Space Race a while ago).
No, if you read the article, the Methods section says "sugars". They don't have data for just sucrose.
There isn't one as far as I can tell. We picked Zurb for a site I was working on, and subsequently switched to Bootstrap, since that's where all the momentum (themes, plugins, etc...) seems to be. Zurb is high quality stuff, but Bootstrap is good too, with more weight behind it - for now, at least.
"The payoff for this type of robbery is just too small to draw in a lot of innovation"

Sure, nobody would do a startup with this market in mind, but if it is cheaply and reliably available, I bet people would start using it, just as people started using bolt cutters to steal bicycles. Also, if one had reliable tools to filter for low risk victims, it would statistically become more profitable to rob people. If you can expect to take an average $10 from ten people before being caught, fewer people would take the chance than when it is $10 from about 100 people (humans do not always make judgments that seem rational. For an example, see http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=stats-show-...)
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There are several reasons you could be getting spam that aren't related to Dropbox. Without knowing your address, it's possible that the spammers randomly guessed it. Another possibility is that a friend's email or Facebook account was compromised, exposing your email address. (I get a disturbing amount of spam this way.) The cases described in the Dropbox forum are more convincing because the addresses were used only for Dropbox and don't seem to be guessable.
Nope, nope and nope.
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Agreed. I'm not talking about startups or things I want money for. I'm talking about random 1-off side projects built for other tech-savvy people or open source projects.

For example, I launched http://toogl.es recently on Foundation and it gets a lot of developer or other technical users.
No it isn't. If you're going to use it or products containing it, I strongly suggest you research this subject for yourself since this is not the place to argue the toss. When you do so, as ever, look to the money.
It is actually possible that you violate their tos by doing so - it could be construed as falsely implying some representation of the company. A stretch to any sane person, though any typical terms document contains miles and miles of cya.
No, that is not possible. I use thousands of e-mail addresses, and only the ones that have dropbox accounts (I confirmed by sending myself password resets) are receiving spam.
A lot of the value in a car is the social signalling it represents. Which is (in a curiously recursive fashion) largely determined by its price.
Does anyone have a link to a web page (or to a book) that would be useful if you want to learn to program a Deep Belief Network?
OK so I don't think I would say, replace Trello right now, but this is really neat service, well done.

I especially like how things are visual and how you can zoom in and out and see this as potentially very useful feature. I will continue to review it and use it.

Also, describing it as Trello killer, I think made us expect way too much of it. So this might not worked the way it was intended.
Take a look here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5300653
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Two exit nodes near Washington DC. The NSA's headquarters are within the error tolerance of GeoIP. Coincidence?!
Not looking bootstrappy sounds like a good reason to use it for some projects. Is there a 'stock foundation' looking site you can link to, I'm curious if I'd recognize it.
I sent my Nexus 7 back because the screen made my eyes seriously hurt. That was on mid brightness. Might have been the LED backlight flickering due to PWM or something along those lines, I don't know. E-ink seems like the way to go for now.
GP means that, if these are employees, their capacity for dealing with customers is so low that it's a net negative for them to continue doing so.
Freon is being phased out due to its ability to damage the ozone layer. I think you mean why don't they use standard commerical refrigerants. I believe the answer is that the 3M Novec family of engineered fluids has higher performance and lower toxicity/GWP.
That's why they are volunteers.
Just checked my spam folder and sure enough 5 spam emails to my unique dropbox address.
Google's support tends to be nonexistent rather than outright hostile. There's quite a difference.
Yea, that quote read like a blatant "we are still important!" cry.

My startup bootstrapped to over 100k users all from Twitter and inbound marketing. We spend $0 on marketing. That's real.
It's a problem of translation between the chemistry definition of toxic (it will kill you in short order) and the common definition (poisonous, noxious). Bittman was using the latter, with an understanding that the dose makes the poison.
Speaking of which, this alias system from google is great in theory, but kind of pointless in practice; spammers can easily figure out they can just remove everything from the + sign, including the sign itself, and boom, they have my address without the specific alias.
What about the possibility that end-users' computers are breached?

- User/pass is saved in the 'Remembered password' area of browser (this is decodable by malware)
- Email is screen-scraped by malware
- Email is sniffed during login at a wifi hotspot (Password is encrypted, user/email may not be)
- 3rd party apps that are linked to your dropbox account

I'm not saying that this wasn't caused by the database breach, but there are a TON of reasons that this could have happened. Some on Dropbox, some on the end users.

Don't expect your email address to stay private. That's what passwords are for.
Yikes. What a terrible idea to place your brand's reputation in the hands of people that don't hesitate to make assumptions about your customers' intelligence. Adobe allows certain users to speak as "Pros" on their help boards based on their past helpfulness, which has gotten out of hand before, but they certainly make the distinction between staff and user in the nameplate so people know not to associate them with the company itself.

Is the point of volunteering to put it on your résumé for future employment opportunities in customer service?
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Why did MtGox fix BitCoin value at $33?
is toogl.es pretty much what a stock foundation site looks like?
"Don't write something informative and realistic, make a call to arms!"

The whole point of an internship (or underpaid, monkey coder job) is to get your foot in the door, to get some residue on your resume, and to work with a real team trying to deliver something for other people.

You're naive if you think that you, by yourself, can imitate the processes, procedures, best practices, tools, standards, guides, and mechanisms that a large company can provide, and learn from it all to boot.

I'm all about "hoisting yourself up from your own bootstraps", but sometimes you need other people. Internships are about immersing yourself with other people, not trying to take the mantle of some superhero and thinking it's going to help you fly better.
> Yes, I should have been more specific, as the research showing health problems is all on dogs.

Ah, fair enough.

> I would like to point out that indoor cats exist though.

They exist in theory :-). I've had a few indoor cats--Every single one has gotten out at some point (cats are pretty sneaky bastards). One wasn't spayed when she got out and was gone for a about 4 hours. Guess who was pregnant when she got back? Sigh...
Because a great company like their Dropbox can't be at fault, it must be the stupid users, right?! </sarcasm aimed at their customer support>
In my state, SBC (now AT&T) received... approximately $700 million, IIRC, in tax breaks and incentives to roll out broadband statewide and provide some degree of "universal access".

The first thing they did, afterward, was to have their lobbyists pressure the state legislature to let them out of their half of the deal (pass laws to that effect) -- while keeping the tax breaks and incentives, of course.

Personally, I had DSL through them, and it is the worst... "utility" service I've ever had. Three appointments before the installer showed up, who was an independent subcontractor who left bare wires twisted together on the building exterior.

Their network was a nightmare, requiring 10+ hops all over the place just to exit onto a trunk. And it would die every week or two. One service call handler who was at her wits end admitted she was subcontracted and could only file tickets. She couldn't even look at a filed ticket to see its status. Zero feedback to the customer.

And... it took on average 30 minutes to reach a service rep. By contrast, call up to order service, and your call was answered within 30 seconds. The only part of their service they appeared to spend money on: Revenue intake.

They only started getting better, and upgrading their offers, when Comcast started rolling in the same territory and eating their lunch. (Not that I'm overly lauding Comcast, these days.)

If you (grandparent comment) think the big telco's are doing you any favors... well, I disagree.
Google Drive, SpiderOak, SugarSync, Skydrive, Amazon Cloud Drive, Box.net.
From the article: "the Marvell server SoC is unique in its ability to deliver the low power consumption, high storage and computer density"

Does anyone know of any numbers on these? This is pretty much the crux of the reason to switch to ARM/RISC processors in general, yes?
The Moderator thinks that the user who created that post and his supporters are idiots. How would someone get to know that a user has an email lala.dropbox@xyz.com, if the user hasn't used it anywhere else?

What happened to you Dropbox?
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You might consider just picking one or two random words from the dictionary.
Foundation is more flexible. Bootstrap is very opinionated.

Bootstrap is awesome for people who aren't comfortable with CSS and just want to put up something quick and don't mind if it looks like every other site out there.

Foundation lets you write better markup.

Also, If I remember correctly...
Bootstrap has caught up now, but in earlier versions, their grid wasn't nestable, which made it almost useless for sufficiently complex websites.
I think "ordinary" people might be poor judges of good science research. I'm an engineer with a curiosity for many kinds of science, but even I would find it hard to determine whether a research project is promising and realistic.

The realistic but grounded research projects probably won't be as popular, as the "Put a man on Pluto" sort of projects.

The crowdfunding could easily go to the "wrong" projects.
I don't think either of those definitions are well served by evidence.
Great story. Can someone explain why this belongs on HN?
Official employees have "Dropboxer" or something similar as their title.
Entirely possible. The moderator's handling of this issue was pitifully bad but the assumption that Dropbox MUST be at fault here is ridiculous.
I don't have any data to point to, but I would be interested to see a breakdown of how many graduates of different fields go into defense.

Among my peers from college, a fairly broad spectrum of engineers, that number seems to be around 50%. I expect that is rather elevated due to particulars of that region, but I wonder what else can compare?

In other words, not "people working in weapons : the world" but rather "STEM workers in defense : STEM workers qualified to work in defense." Where are we allocating the brains of society?
Do you have any specifics on why you consider Bootstrap more opinionated? I've used both on a few different sites and haven't really noticed this.
That Chris guy should be fired. A laughable excuse for customer service.

EDIT: Looks like they're volunteers. But still.
Mashable did too? Didn't know that.
It's not from Google; it's called subaddressing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_address#Address_tags
Where do you think your tax dollars go, silly rabbit?
I'm sorry but it's hard to really take someone seriously when they start out by comparing a language (PHP) against a framework (Rails), and then make this claim:

> Metaprogramming and reflection have to be implemented by the framework as they’re not part of the language.

Every example there seems to relate to a framework called "Flow", and the author sums this up quite succinctly:

> It took them five years to experiment and find something that works for them

The key words are the last three. WORKS. FOR. THEM. I've never heard of Flow before, and from what I've seen in this blog alone, it looks like more PHP developers who want to be Java developers.

I agree completely that the examples shown are fucking horrific, but thats not a fault of the language.

Let's take the "Fetch a record" example. It's perfectly possible to have a php model that works like so:

BlogPost::findByPK($foo);

As for the templates, yes the Flow templates are fucking stupid. That's still not a fault against PHP - I've given up trying to understand why people feel the need in PHP - which is itself an excellent templating language - to create new, more complex and yet limited template languages.
Not on that list: family history/genetics. I believe that has already been identified as a significant risk factor for diabetes. So it's not just the sugar.
Some of the posters seem to be saying they have received spam on a single, dropbox-specific address on their own domains, though, presumably with catch-all email, so that an attacker wouldn't just have had to guess fredsmith.dropbox@fredsmith.com, but also not tried a single other address @fredsmith.com
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Russia is also a different planet.
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If you're not digging through the source you'd probably think it was a lightly styled Bootstrap site as many of the same tells are present (black top navbar, etc).

However, I think there is some massive confirmation bias at work. If a site customizes Bootstrap and it looks nice nobody credits it as a 'Bootstrap Looking' site, so as a result it is only when the defaults are used that people really pick up on it.

That coupled with the fact that there are many more Bootstrap sites kicking around out there I think has led to the misconception about "Bootstrap Looking" sites.
Because some stories transcend classification and we have hearts as well as heads.
That doesn't matter in the slightest.

This is the company's OFFICIAL forum, and therefore the conduct of the appointed "moderators" reflects that of the company.
Yeah, it's tough to really know who leaked. Alice and Bob both know secret S, and each can blame the other if S is leaked, but neither of them really knows who did it.

There have been some research projects where unique and unguessable passwords were made in laboratory conditions and securely given to sites to see if they managed to leak. I trust those a lot more because they often lock up the email addresses and never use them. From what I recall some big companies did give out addresses they promised not to, but that's not a blanket condemnation of all businesses.
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Or, have one of your other Pro accounts raise the alarm for you.
The juice thing is a bit more complex, because it depends on the type and form of the juice and what you do or eat along with it. I find that clear apple, grape and pineapple juice is not ideal, but very pulpy orange juice or very cloudy apple juice is fine, especially combined with exercise or the right meal as long as it's in proportions of how much of said fruit you would normally consume.
Everyone who received the spam should pastebin the emails along with the header and share them for comparison. If those spam messages are found to be similar then it can be pinpointed that they all have originated from the same person/group and it was no usual hit & miss technique by the spammers which the moderator is contemplating about.
A direct hit doesn't seem to be all that probable, but Mars is still likely to pass within the comet's coma and be pelted by debris [1].

[1] http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/02/28/mars_imp...
What is this... comparing a framework with a language? Compare Laravel with Rails, or PHP with RUBY... not RAILS.
Ok, that's fine!

Thanks for the clearification.
If their intention is to try and capture the Windows Server hosting market, then it's a risky bet. They risk alienating large Windows OEMs like Dell and HP that would be cut out of arrangements like this when customers start buying server services from Microsoft directly.

This is all well and good if you're a company using the Microsoft stack, but it doesn't mean they're as committed to making a platform-agnostic hosting platform like Amazon is with AWS or other big vendors like Rackspace are.
I think that I tracked my spam to the following exploit:

http://thenextweb.com/insider/2013/01/31/yahoo-mail-users-st...

If you ever shared anything with somebody using Yahoo email your email is already in the wild.
What about a possible leak from a 3rd party? Did you, by chance, use Mailbox? Do third-party apps (1Password, etc.) that sync using Dropbox get access to your email address?
Nonsense. Social engineering is using the force of the state to modify behaviors. You can say forced education is social engineering, but the act of educating or learning is not social engineering.
It's pointless in practice in theory; in practice in practice spammers (in my experience) don't target + aliases. And if you think about the set of people who are likely to give money to spammers, the set of people using + aliases, and the fraction of + alias space that is occupied versus the fraction of non-+'aliased space that is occupied, the reason why becomes clear.
Thanks so much for posting this. I hope everyone on HN will take a breather and read this article all the way through.
This is a perfect example of a well-played pivot.
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Not on hand, but you are right to ask for them. I'll further articulate the argument that I should have made above. The demographics of smokers skew towards higher consumption in poorer & less educated brackets while less consumption among wealthier & more educated.

My argument is simple. Taxation has a minimal effect on our behaviors, but our level of education & level of wealth has a much larger effect. Those who are more impacted by a tax on tobacco make up a larger percentage of those who are less impacted by the higher cost.

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/adult...

*Edited for clarity & for a less glib response.
I don't think anyone is suggesting that you shouldn't read this story. I wouldn't expect a story about the latest release of Twitter Bootstrap to show up in the Wall Street Journal, though, and I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that the Sports section front page doesn't include stories about a recent fire, heroic as the firefighters might be.
This is how a company's supposed to respond to stuff like this.