skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
You may be right-- you're older and more experienced than I am-- but I wouldn't be inclined to take the risk. All considered, I don't think I could marry a woman with a history of casual sex when there might be someone out there who is just as good and doesn't have that kind of history.
flagged bc your formatting ruins this whole discussion because now i have to horizontally scroll. even if your formatting is hn's fault not yours. if enough people flag, then maybe this comment will disappear.

which is a shame, because i agree with your comment completely, quoted below:

No, this is not a fact. Perhaps the real problem here is you don't know a whole lot about women. I'm not trying to be rude to you. Most women, regardless of sexual history, DO NOT marry and stay with a man for the same reasons as a man marries and stays with a woman.

Here is a fact: A woman can have many partners, search what feels to her a lifetime, find a man, fall in love and never, ever in her mind compare you with another man.
But you have no evidence for any of this. It's just your personal theory. To me at least, it sounds highly dubious. In my experience most people do not act like that.

Casual sex does not necessarily make people emotionally unstable. Alpha males do not need to become rapists. Nothing you say makes sense. And what on earth do you mean by "ladylike"? They are ladies, by definition they act ladylike.

You live in a very strange world my friend.
Surprise!!
I meant the book, not the review, but good call. Okay, another one:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1031259/Casual-sex...

I can keep doing this, you know, given the enormous amount of research that's on my side.
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I mean "fitness" in the Darwin sense. One person can't define fitness. Its a collective attribution. But if you ask a random group of 100 men to pick the "hot girl" in a room, the results are what shape fitness.

I feel there is more correlation between "sexual history" and "sexual fitness" as opposed to a correlation between "sexual history" and "morality".
This is more of an indication of your insecurity than the actual opinions of people with multiple sexual partners.

Sex isn't the Olympics. You're not always going to hook up with the best person and if you find a new person move on to them. Looks aren't everything. As Ben Franklin observed about having sex with older women "All cats are gray in the dark"

I've been in relationships with girls who had multiple partners who thought this way. They were sluts. (same goes for guys on the other side of the deal). I've also been with girls who had multiple partners who were extremely loyal.

Yes -- people who are uninhibited, risk-takers, and have poor judgment skills are not the kind for long-term relationships. But that set of people does not include everybody who has had multiple sex partners, even though all of those people are probably promiscuous. You're being silly.

It's much wiser to spend your time creating boundaries about how you deserve to be treated, not about what somebody's past is. Get out. Meet people. Date. Have sex if that is what comes natural to you. If you don't feel like it, don't have sex. But don't go berserko over past sex partners. You'll never compare up to the best of 20 other guys -- and if you think you have to, you don't understand what having a relationship means.
> Would you not release an update until your UI passed the 10 out of 10 test?

No. You cannot expect 100% of unqualified users to grok any UI.

> Should I worry about the 3 in which our UI failed them?

You should want to know why these 3 didn't pass your test.

To say much beyond this in the way of advice I think we need to know about your UI, the test and the worker incentives. What exactly did your HIT Description say?
At least I didn't fuck up my life in the first year of high school.
... could anything on that site be considered religion neutral? The book sounds about as neutral as well.

Hooked is not an *explicitly* Christian book

emphasis mine
thanks for letting me know I'm the culprit. I will adjust it and see if I can get things back on track.
How is my life fucked up?
Personally I don't think they can. I agree with misappropriation vs copying, but I still feel sad for the content creators. It must suck to put in thousands of hours into something that people love but you can't make money off it.
How the hell does consenting casual sex between adults relate to child molestation?

Holy crap man, please seek lots and lots of therapy.
Great story - are you able to share details or contact info about your telemarketing star? Would love to hear more (shafqat at newscred dot com).
I always keep these rules of thumb (also by Yahoo):
http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html

And I like the smush.it linked in the presentation that 'minifies' your images.
Wow, both a Christian propaganda site and a trashy UK tabloid? It MUST be true!

Peer reviewed study or nothing, please.
I found it with a Reddit search
As I stated elsewhere, the internal software architecture (or licensing) is not the issue here, the cloned result presented to users/customers is.

Your argument was that someone can't take a web app and "copy it to China," yet this is exactly what it is at this point from the perspective of someone using the application. So, according to you now, apparently it can be done as long as the person who "cop[ies] it to China" happens to be on Chinese soil at the time and, unbeknownst to a regular user, builds it using a different web framework and open sources it.

No, in fact your origin implication was the right one: the hard part is building a community and delivering a service customized for market beyond simply changing the language, something that so far has not been done here with this application yet.
What the hell is wrong with you? Do you act like this in person?

Shut the fuck up, asshole.

I mean seriously, I don't want to talk like that on HN, but just look at what he's saying.
No, these (specific) discussions are not in a context of "what do we do?" I think it encourages clearer thinking to tackle one thing at a time. Allow me to quote myself in the first sentence of my first post in this thread:

> As counterpoints, first consider that blame for the current situation and the proper next steps are two separate issues.
Nice, there are so many resources for what people are listening to right now that I'm sure that algorithm would be easier if you were to do it again now. In this case, when the queue is empty it uses search.twitter to find some music that people are currently listening to. (I'm the developer)
thanks for all the comments and helpful resources!

I wish HN had a section devoted to testing new features & UI! That would be great, as Im not asking feedback on my app(graciously received that), just like to know if the simple UI defines our new feature.

Feel free to take the Turk - 9 assignments remain:
http://tinyurl.com/cx5czv
Alpha male "badboys" become rapists because they feel entitled to whatever they see. Mike Tyson's behavior in 1991 is an example of this: the man was rich and famous, but did it anyway because he was arrogant.

A man who is successful in getting lots of casual sex stops seeing women as people, and starts seeing them as objects to be "acquired". At this point, bad behavior is likely to ensue.

They are ladies, by definition they act ladylike.

Lady is a proper subset of woman. Look the word up.
I hope you do find the right girl for you. Its very healthy to openly discuss these issues. You don't need to change how you feel about who the right girl is for you. In fact, you may not be able to change it. You just need to understand it.

My only advice to you is to not project this as an issue of morals. To be certain, there are times when what you would call "loose morals" come in to play and this is correlated to high sexual activity. But I have found this correlation does not extend to the majority of women. In fact, I have known women with low or no sexual activity who had questionable morals.
I haven't talked to him for two years or so, but I'm sure he would love the business.

Unfortunately he only speaks Danish, which probably makes him less valuable to you :-(
Has anyone ever posted a survey HIT which asks the Turk workers about their backgrounds (and posted the results)? I'd be interested to see what the workers' qualifications and backgrounds are, and where they are, native languages, etc.
You'll never compare up to the best of 20 other guys -- and if you think you have to, you don't understand what having a relationship means.

This is where I have to remain idealistic. I'd much rather have no relationship at all than one in which the woman's constantly pining for some other guy.

In any case, I'd dump a girl on the spot if I found out she'd had 20 partners, so that particular example's not very relevant to me.
I won't dispute that the regulatory environment encouraged or discouraged certain actions, but that is very different from forcing anything. I can encourage you to smoke (say, by subsidizing tobacco), but that's hardly the same as forcing you to do so.

Secondly, CDS contracts or CDO securities certainly weren't mandated by regulators, nor is there even much evidence that they were encouraged; they were merely permitted. There is no way that you can argue that the companies who buried themselves in the things were forced to do so by regulators and maintain anything resembling credibility.

My condolences on your ideology's incompatibility with reality.
You're just jealous.
They're both deviant behaviors looked down upon by the mainstream for the permanent emotional harm they cause to the people involved.
A few people have researched Turker demographics:

http://behind-the-enemy-lines.blogspot.com/2008/03/mechanica...

http://behind-the-enemy-lines.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-peopl...

http://waxy.org/2008/11/the_faces_of_mechanical_turk/

There may be others. Those are just what I had saved in my bookmarks.
Which is more illogical, voting or buying green products?
Neither is worth spending time/money on in the sense that one person won't make a difference -- at least, if you discount network effects.

It's hard to imagine for example how this could be a selling point: http://www.apple.com/mac/green-notebooks

So which is more illogical to you?
Such comments wouldn't be hurtful-- or "assholish" to use your phrase-- if she didn't know she had done something wrong.
For a one-off use, writing code (and finding a coder) might be overkill. I have been impressed by the results produced by http://www.pdftoword.com, which would render to Word or RTF from extremely weird pdf formatting. You should be able to safely convert from there.
PDF to Word - the most accurate PDF-to-Word converter, as a web service
When a man talks on a public forum about "quality women" and the horrors of casual sex, this is pretty much always where it ends up.

If, that is, you know how to poke them into revealing their true nature. Which I do.

Now you see what I meant originally. :)
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This is true. But David Moon is fairly famous, having worked on Lisp, CLOS, Dylan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Moon) and he was immortalized in the hacker koan:

(From http://catb.org/jargon/html/koans.html)

One day a student came to Moon and said, "I understand how to make a better garbage collector. We must keep a reference count of the pointers to each of the cons." Moon patiently told the student the following story:

"One day a student came to Moon and said, 'I understand how to make a better garbage collector...'"

So I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, at least for now. ;-)

edit: fixed typo in quote
Trust me that I don't think anyone is jealous of a woman who lost her virginity at 14.
You think that's adequate? Personally I don't, but it's not an issue I care enough to argue. It was just an observation.
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There was a commonly held belief that women were property.

This was held throughout large parts of the Western world, throughout history (Indeed, I have not heard of any sort of egalitarian society in the past, perhaps barring some special cases).
If a woman was pining for some other guy, you wouldn't want a relationship with her whether or not she was promiscuous.

You're conflating concepts that don't relate. I dated a girl once who was pining for some other guy and who wasn't promiscuous. I dumped her. Likewise I dated a girl who had had better sexual partners than me who did not pine for any of them. The relationship lasted a while until another unrelated event caused it to split.

I've dated girls and had sex with them and dated girls and didn't have sex. I've seen all of these combinations, and it really looks like you're taking shortcuts that don't always hold up.

You've got your cause and effect mixed up -- in my opinion only, of course.

The most risky relationship? One with someone who had never had sex or made any "moral" mistakes at all. Because everybody has to screw up sometime. I'd much rather have somebody who has sewn their oats and learned from it. To mangle an old phrase, if you're a kid and not promiscuous, you have a problem with your heart. If you're an old person and are promiscuous, you have a problem with your head.
Perhaps God will take me over his everlovin' knee and spank my naughty, fornicating bottom when I die, but other than that, my life is looking pretty great from this side of the veil.

But thanks for asking.
You're insane. Please, please, seek therapy. You clearly have a brain but something terrible must have happened to you, and I'm sorry for that, but you need to find help.

You cannot equate "Would you marry an ex-child molester?" and "Would you marry someone who has had casual sex?"

Cannot.

CANNOT.

One raped a fucking child, dude. RAPED. A. CHILD. Another had a consensual relationship with another willing adult. You cannot and should not equate the two just because you happen to disagree with both. That is plain and outright creepy.

I hope you're a troll. Seriously.
Women who have casual sex have a way of not being able to get married, and many of them discover that it's something that they actually did want to do, eventually. Funny, that. Thus they spend their 40s breaking into tears every time a school bus passes by.
Facts and reason are all well and good, folks, but it pays to remember where they're coming from, and what agenda a person has.

Fact content enough does not counter the agenda of a person who is deliberately setting up a discussion for subversive means.

You cannot consider only what a person says for truthfulness, you must also consider why they are saying it, for intent.

I rest my case.
I recommend http://99designs.com/ as a great starting point.

You can run a design contest for a small amount of money, and you'll get a FAR broader range of options than with just one small designer.

You have the option to only pay if you're actually satisfied with one of the entries, so the risk is essentially nothing (ie: just the $39 entry cost).

Be wary that the quality of entries is somewhat in line with how much you're offering and the quality of your feedback. That said, you should be able to get something really decent for <$1000.

Another option would be to trawl the site and find designers who's work you really like, then offer them something inline with what they'd get in the competition environment (but with guaranteed payment).

Cheers!
My argument is that there is more to a "product" than the attributes that make it the clone you see now. Will this new author develop this into something more or will someone else take his open source and develop more with it but for India or Korea? Time will tell. I reserve judgment.
Quit your hyperbolic palaver and tell me, in observable facts, how my life is fucked up.
noun 1. a woman

There, I looked the word up. It means what I thought it meant, ie, a woman. What did you think it meant?

Your views on "alpha male rapists", which apparently descend entirely from Mike Tyson, are ridiculous. That is a single data point and is utterly meaningless. Where's the rest of it?

I can personally attest to the fact that in contrary to your blanket statement, men who have been "successful" in "getting" lots of "casual sex" do not, in fact, stop seeing women as people.

You think you know everything, but you know nothing. I don't know who told you this crap, but they were utterly wrong. The sooner you realise this, the better.
You've already used that line. It wasn't funny the first time. However, the original was a bit more misogynist and even slightly sadistic: "i take pleasure in the thought of them ... sobbing"

Sex and the City bitches are disgusting. I hate to admit this, but I take pleasure in the thought of them spending their middle-aged years sobbing every time a school bus passes by.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=456292

another time management classic:

I still do look down, reflexively, upon any "profession" connected to real estate. I can honestly say I'd never marry a woman who worked in RE, and only a woman from a real estate family if she had been purified through an elite college

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=449207
Are you even a man?

Any guy I know would think it is AWESOME to lose your virginty at 14.
I stand corrected. I'll take your advice next time.

edit: Actually, I won't even respond next time - we were trolled, big time. I'm happy the post is being killed.
its all "derivative". You simply have a definition of "clone" which I do not share.
www.helenfisher.com/downloads/articles/17brokeheart.pdf

Pwn'd.
Take a look at some examples: http://users.rcn.com/david-moon/PLOT/page-5.html

Norvig as pointed out that Python can end up looking like Lisp with the parenthesis replaced with indentations (http://norvig.com/python-lisp.html). I think this comes even closer.
Prepare yourself for Club Cloud (computing)
I know you're not long for subtlety, but many words have more than one definition. From the elusive and esoteric Dictionary.com:

Notice definition 1.

la⋅dy
/ˈleɪdi/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ley-dee] Show IPA noun, plural -dies, adjective
–noun
1.	a woman who is refined, polite, and well-spoken: She may be poor and have little education, but she's a real lady.
2.	a woman of high social position or economic class: She was born a lady and found it hard to adjust to her reduced circumstances.
3.	any woman; female (sometimes used in combination): the lady who answered the phone; a saleslady.
4.	(Used in direct address: often offensive in the singular): Ladies and gentlemen, welcome. Lady, out of my way, please.
5.	wife: The ambassador and his lady arrived late.
6.	Slang. a female lover or steady companion.
7.	(initial capital letter) (in Great Britain) the proper title of any woman whose husband is higher in rank than baronet or knight, or who is the daughter of a nobleman not lower than an earl (although the title is given by courtesy also to the wives of baronets and knights).
8.	a woman who has proprietary rights or authority, as over a manor; female feudal superior. Compare lord (def. 4).
9.	(initial capital letter) the Virgin Mary.
10.	a woman who is the object of chivalrous devotion.
11.	(usually initial capital letter)
a.	an attribute or abstraction personified as a woman; a designation of an allegorical figure as feminine: Lady Fortune; Lady Virtue.
b.	a title prefixed to the name of a goddess: Lady Venus.
–adjective
12.	Sometimes Offensive. being a lady; female: a lady reporter.
13.	of a lady; ladylike; feminine.
Origin:
bef. 900; ME ladi(e), earlier lavedi, OE hlǣfdīge, hlǣfdige, perh. orig. meaning “loaf-kneader,” equiv. to hlāf loaf + -dīge, -dige, var. of dǣge kneader (see dough; cf. ON deigja maid); see lord
Are you asking what HN's users have created as far as news aggregators go?

http://www.gibsonandlily.com is mine.

Its moderated, but I feel like it has a pretty good, pretty tight-knit community :)
Thanks for the link. I agree with you there. I was thinking maybe a general PDF-to-MediaWiki/PBWiki script might be of use for this and other projects.

There's an open government hackathon this week at PyCon here in Chicago and it looks like at least three of the proposed ideas are PDF-to-Text apps.

http://feedback.sunlightfoundation.com/hackathon/
As I mulled my own cognitive processes, I speculated about the following possibility, which may apply more to small businesses than large: the academic/deep-solver (PhD or whatever) doesn't understand that the problem is often not well-defined enough in a business situation to warrant spending the resources for an omnipotent solution. The problem isn't really defined until the Market has a voice. Sometimes, the thing you thought was important isn't really important, the thing you blew off (or, in my most recent case, the thing I thought I was replacing the need for) turns out to still be quite important.

Code it. Show it. Then, with luck, you'll know what the problem really is. At least, that's been my experience (but I'm still relatively new to this game).
I think Richard addresses the importance of the roles of the individual people. His novel point is as the title suggests, that the role of _the thing designed_ is far too often overlooked. Consider the terms Lisp-y or Pythonic. It is a strange quality which seems to lie outside ourselves, yet we somehow comprehend it. It may not even be real, but I think the essay highlights the powerful yet (often) unnoticed affect it has on human creativity.
I will have to agree with mattmaroon on this. I dont think Myspace is in for trouble, I think every social network will see a saturation point like any other company. Then it becomes pure optimization.
You're a disgrace to your religion.
I'm duly disgusted. Great job. IHBT.
But on facebook I can't be friends with Britney, or Obama, or Hughesy, or any other celbrity. on Twitter I Can (at least - I can see what they're doing.. even if they don't see me)

While I don't see that as valuable for me - some users (and I'd guess a lot of facebook users) - see that as pretty awesome.

Also - the link title is misleading - the article suggests Friend/Fan (or Friend/Follow) will co-exist.
"Looks like I was completely misinterpreted."

How do you figure? You said that you've worked with a handful of CS PhDs, and you found them useless. It's a pretty straightforward interpretation.
That is unfortunately the view among young people. A virgin is looked upon as someone with a type of disease.

I really don't think this is true. I was a virgin until I was 19, wasn't secretive about it (which is not to say I broadcast the information) and no one ever seemed to care. I have friends who are still virgins and don't think of them differently at all.
I don't think your conviction is based on the data. MySpace is only profitable because Google blinked. I would love to hear about these "much more convincing revenue streams" of which you speak.

Mark Zuckerberg practically lives at the office. Chris DeWolfe spends half his time chasing starlets. It's quite easy to imagine how that would play out over an extended period of time, in terms of organizational focus and execution.
What I have seen so far:

* 4 prominent attributions: SO attributions on his blog, the google code main page, CC license on the new production site, and in the code itself!!!

* apache open source license

Maybe he is not in full compliance yet, but this is one hell of a good start and demonstrates good faith.
Well, that's what Twitter is for. But Facebook is a different type of site. It's not a site for being "friends" with Shaq (or Britney/Obama/whoever if you prefer).

I mean, I can do my taxes on H&R Block's site, and that's kind of awesome (well, as awesome as doing taxes gets). But that doesn't mean Facebook should help me with my taxes.