skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
That might backfire. I might think less of a site that thought doing trivial math problems was a sign of my level of intelligence.

And making it harder might also be bad. If they are too hard, you'll get people who are just signing up for the entrance test. Just think about how much press google's puzzles on their billboards got. And somebody will of course put the answers on the internet.
He's working smarter not harder. Finding a market and then delivering what they want, which is old news in business. He's just being tech savvy about doing it online. Most entrepreneurs build something they want. He's building a products that he has empirical proof someone else wants.
Why is chocolate more popular than brown rice?
It's real. The story that is. Well, the legend is real.

I give up.
Erlang spam considered harmful
What in hell is going on with the Erlang spam - is it a coordinated front page takeover attempt or a flash mob?
Your post is screwing up formatting of the whole page. Please break down the lines. Thanks.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=512145
Social Networking - Profound Growth
OK, now this is starting to get silly.
> you "can" apply any css property to any element

right, but if i understand correctly, only some of them are relevant / do anything - right?

>i think your best bet is to play around with it.

maybe, but I really dont like learning that way (which is why im not enjoying CSS at all so far..). i'd much rather just read the reference guide.

i'm use to using a language reference, so that for any object/component I can quickly lookup the properties / styles applicable to it. Does such a thing for CSS not exist?
Get Your Pi On
Yeah, but that crap gets penalized by Google and it's no good at generating links organically because it is, in fact, crap. Laying down good money for quality content that will naturally attract long-tail links and traffic over time will pay off in the long run.
Hmm... or is it someone running an experiment to see if everything with 'Erlang' in the title will be upvoted?
The Cult of Paul or the legitimate desire of us old timers to keep this site from turning into just another reddit.

I just up voted all the Erlang articles and it has nothing to with pg.

(I also happen to genuinely like Erlang)
Are there any articles on the "HN storing everything on the file system"?

I am quite interested in the architecture, because I found this approach nice for some sites I was building. They were not very large though.
Upmodded for NOT being about Erlang. :)
Our little startup project is promoting the upcoming "Pi Day" and so we decided to promote the product by offering a super Pi sale. Nothing like a little geek marketing...
I just bought a C64 a few weeks ago, for making chiptunes. I've been stunned to find that new products are still being made for the platform. I bought an internal "hard disk" that stores on an SD card, a connector for hooking it up to a PC via serial port with disk management software for Windows, and a MIDI interface with several applications to make the C64 act as a bassline synth, drum machine, etc. All newly manufactured stuff. It's astonishing the life these old boxes have in them, due to the tenacity of people who enjoy tinkering with them.

Anyway, since I'm having fun tinkering with old machines lately, this is relevant to my interests.
Designing high performance startup Jobs
This is also possible by tunneling through ICMP: http://www.cs.uit.no/~daniels/PingTunnel/
Agreed. It's more modern, more expressive, runs faster (and supports parallelism better, amusingly), and can talk to Erlang apps anyway.

http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Applications_and_librarie...
Why are 16 out of 30 front page submissions Erlang related?
.....time to fork ycnews?
He's probably an affiliate, but he's not blowing smoke. This method works. I suspect he's not afraid to tell people about it, because it's a lot of work.
Obviously both. But if you're looking to make an exclusive commitment for professional reasons, then I suspect Erlang is more industry and Haskell more academia.
Git Ready: Learn Git One Commit At A Time
Hey, this was my first belly laugh at work in quite a while. The downside is that I will now have to skim every boring title to make sure I havent missed a gem.
How To Write Wings3D Plugins in Erlang
I always use a dedicated DNS provider because if my hosting service implodes or goes rogue I need to be able to move the name.

If you want a recommendation, I use gandi.net. They have a long track record of doing the job well and respecting the customer's IP rights.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=512145

The problem cited could probably be solved by a fork, if you could make it more appealing to the general masses than Digg / Reddit / HN currently are.

I wonder if we could get a cycle going? As people jump from one to another, a few folks regress and reform at the base? I wonder how Kuro5hin is doing these days...
> right, but if i understand correctly, only some of them are relevant / do anything - right?

only because there is default behavior, which you can typically override. you can apply any css to <html> to movie it around and style it like a <div>, but you can't do that to <script>.
I wonder if you had the same opinion about Erlang a year ago...

Erlang is trendy Haskell is not.
Erlang's Type System
Erlang Sudoku
What Resource Efficiency Means To VCs
Please see "the entire front page".

:)
Erlang: The Movie (unintentionally funny)
>you may think that you can simply renounce your US citizenship, burn your passport and call it a day, but as of 1986 the IRS is able to come after you for taxes for up to 10 years after renunciation of citizenship.

Actually, they can only do this if you give up your passport for tax purposes. If you have more than $2 million in assets then it is automatically assumed you are giving up the pass for tax reasons, otherwise it shouldn't be a problem.

> In addition, tax information is now shared with INS, so you can be barred entry from the US or end up getting carted off to somewhere you don't want to go if you don't have all of your ducks in a row.

This will be my biggest worry if I end up giving back my passport. Will the border patrol decide that anyone who is "stupid" enough to give up a US passport must be a terrorist? :)

>You have to remember that you are a citizen of the world's smartest country. They have pretty much thought of everything.

I hope this line is joking.
Check it out here -> http://erlang.org/download/otp_src_R12B-5.tar.gz
Extrapolating from the memory-growth graph, how much time would a 16GB ram machine buy you?
Just a quick way to join in on the Erlang goof this afternoon.

This video is meant to be serious, but the hokey opening music and deadpan dialogue and expressions make it seem like a Monty Python sketch.
From what I can tell, correct me if I am wrong, part of the purpose of this site is to operate as a testing grounds for Arc. The focus is on making the language better. So rather then improving performance by providing better hardware, it becomes a matter of improving the site through code. Either by changing the code running the site, or by improving the language itself. But given that this is more of a side project, the resources needed to improve the site are limited. Given the unusual spike in traffic, rather then using limited resources to fix it, or sacrifice the motivation to improve the code/language, the boring article approach is being used.
Where was Control on Lisp Machine keyboards?
It will be interesting to see how many people upmod here without having read the previous link.

Either way, forking or tagging links would be a good idea at this point
Tent Cities in the US? ... wow.
If I'd found this earlier I wouldn't have bothered posting...
oh well - a little unintentional karma whoring won't hurt the site too badly.
Oh yeah this place like sooooooo boring! An yo dudue I think you misspelled dissimlar.

Well i iz back off to reddit.com because that's like super awsome.

Videos, funny pics, comics, cool suff - wicked awsome!
Erlang-C Calculator
http://marcusvorwaller.com/look/erlang-20090311-125410.jpg 18 of 25 Erlang articles on the front page. :)
It's a great way to bypass firewalls. Wasn't this used in a worm in the 90s?
I think there's a keming issue in the first code listing. But in reverse.
On Google Video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5830318882717959520
As much as I would like to see the end of the EU (or at least the Euro), Spain and Italy can't leave; they can't afford to. Imagine what the speculators would do to a new currency Spain/Italy introduced after not being able to survive in the EU.

If anyone leaves it's going to be France or Germany.

>The dollar does not look good, but compared to the euro or the yen, it looks great.

There are more currencies out there then these. The British pound seems to be down at the moment, but I expect it to recover. The swiss franc isn't looking bad either. Personally I expect the dollar to go down, but there are way too many variables out there to actually bet on it.
This is an interesting question but please set this up as a poll instead.

http://news.ycombinator.com/newpoll
I'm in total agreement. In the effort to become boring, Hacker News just became more interesting than it has been in the last couple weeks (silly links to Erlang Shen aside).

I come here for this sort of stuff, or for thoughts on business, not to hear what computer nerds think about macroeconomics, politics, and flirting. If I wanted that stuff, I know Reddit's address.
PG Says: Guys, that's enough with the Erlang submissions
Ask HN/Poll: Would you submit to other similar programs (ie. TechStars) concurrently?
I'm sure many of you are aware of the other programs that are similar to YC's. Are you considering submitting to those programs as well? Do you know of any potential issues of doing that?

I've also added some of the programs that I know of so. Feel free to point out others.
Highland Capital Partners
Shotput Ventures
DreamIT ventures
LaunchBox
Portland Ten
TechStars
I was introduced to Erland several years ago because it was used in network switches.

I heard about Haskell through academic connections.
Compass, the future of Sass development
No, I think that's the firewall modifying the headers. I still encounter the portal page when I use a different DNS (although the portal hostname doesn't resolve). I'm not sure if they have even figured out how to do DNS authentication yet.
Why is this happening today?
Please, don't start Ruby vs. Ergland
or Erlang doesn't scale...
:)
Dude Turns to Twitter As Guy Breaks In His House
At $8 a pop? I expect they're complete drivel.
I upvoted your initial statement and this one, but not the one in between. We're not downvoting you to "hide the truth", we're downvoting you because your statement wasn't making an interesting argument. Now you've started to argue what you mean, but you're still not being particularly informative about it.
Perhaps, but that might affect lurkers (perhaps even long term lurkers) who finally decide they have something useful to say and want to say it - now.

I tend to mostly lurk, but I did find myself in that situation a couple weeks ago.
Cloudo - The Internet Computer with no hardware that can go anywhere you go.
I almost forgot today was the Erlang Day!
Happy Erlang Day to Joe Armstrong and to the Hacker news community!
On the contrary, brown rice is more popular than chocolate. Consider that most of the world's population survives primarily on rice with some other protein sources and water.
Mutiny! PG said specifically not to upvote fluffy links.
Just scaring off the new crowd with hard core hacker interest stuff.

Do your part, upvote some Haskell articles.
Why is it Erlang Day?

PG started a mini-meme, but that doesn't make this a canonized day. So unless it really is Erlang Day, this thing stops now.
Yep, every day, for while I'm running.
Yet in regards to chocolate's sugar and instant gratification versus rice's underlying substance and scalability, I think kirubakaran's analogy was subtly accurate.
Erlang, Haskell, Lisp, low level C
The Erlang is good, but we can make it better, by keeping it just as "boring" but less suspicious.
It's the Erlang day!
There is no database (see the other comments in this thread)
Yeah, you're way off on that. The swoosh is Nike. When people were mugging each other for Air Jordans, think back: each commercial ended with a silhouette of Jordan about to dunk, and below him, the Nike Swoosh.

Show anyone the swoosh and they either associate it with "Just Do It" (again, Nike's trademark) or Nike itself.

You might as well claim that Apple's startup chime is just another beep.
Interactive map showing immigration pattern in US
Upstream. Both ways. In the snow.
Yes, that. And the site is not trying to be the most popular social news site on the planet. It aims to serve a specific niche that doesn't yet require more processing power.
We submitted to TechStars and YCombinator. Basically, our rule of thumb for applying was: have these programs led to the creation of good things? TS and YC were the only two that had products that'd personally interested us (very likely because they're the oldest two programs - but that's a useful thing, when applying.)

I was warned that TechStars accepts before YCombinator begins announcing people in the final round - I don't know if that's true (is anybody from TechStars on HN to clarify?), but if it is that means if you get accepted into TechStars you have to ask yourself if you want to accept it or take a risk on YCombinator's also liking you.
It's $80k/year. Anything over that is taxed, but at the higher bracket. That is, if you make $85k, the $5k isn't taxed at the 0-25k (or whatever it is) bracket, but the one that $85k is in.

If you would still have to pay after this deduction you can forfeit the $80k deduction and use some other form. I don't know much about the other form, only that it's incredibly complex and changes enough every year that if you live in a foreign country you'll simply have to pay a tax guy to fill it out. I've been making over $100k/year since I left the states (a year after that, actually) and I haven't owed any U.S. taxes yet.
No I don't know of anyone who has been in a similar situation. This is why I have turned to HN.

It looks like I will have to consult a lawyer. Thanks for your advice. :)
Amazing Charts showing Viral Loops
Only about 50% of marriages fail in 10 years.
On the other hand, only about 45% of businesses make it past 5 years.

I would argue that his strategy couldn't be any worse for beating the odds than anyone else's, contrary to what you might believe.
Please read if you have any information about Tony Morris
Something to do with the squillion-dollar deficit.
Cuz when pg says jump, we say how high.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=512145
Well those figures are the opposite of gp's. Google passes on between 75 and 79% to publishers.
Ask HN: Y Erlang
Erlang rules and we need more of it on HN. Where is Erlang headed?
Ooooh, HackerNews meme. You realize how tempting it is to submit this to TechCrunch, etc., don't you?! TC Linkbait Headline: "Elitist Hacker News shuns the rest of us by pretending to be about Erlang! Oh, and somehow this relates to Twitter!1!!!1!!"
Or just give high-karma users the ability to down-vote submissions that have more than 30 points.

The 30 points limit makes sure that stories don't get killed for the wrong reasons. In fact they don't get killed at all, they just get moved down the page a little faster than they otherwise would.
Erlang meets Ruby
No. Erlang _only_ !!! FTW
Sure it keeps the drive by visitors from staying, but it makes HN useless (unless you _really_ _really_ like Erlang) for the next few days.

There has to be a better way to control the audience than intentionally ruining the content.
It will be interesting to know the median household income superimposed on this.
Before the next beta I've to select a license among GPL, LGPL, and BSD. Please help me if you have some idea about it. I always liked more BSD because there is more freedom, but for a project like Redis that is used like a 'service' maybe the BSD is not that useful and the GPL instead works as a protection. But I'm not that sure.
It was fun while it lasted ;)

Or, incredibly confusing if you had no idea where it came from. PG's actual words are hilarious:

"Ok, ok, enough Erlang submissions. You guys are like the crowdsourced version of one of those troublesome overliteral Genies. I meant more that it would be better not to submit and upvote the fluffier type of link. Without those we'll be fine."
This sounds like a really really good idea.
Concurrent Programming in Erlang
With all due respect, I disagree. Life is about you and the people you care about (which could be the whole world, but generally isn't). IMHO, you don't owe anything to some country you happen to be born in. They should be treated exactly like a business (as far as is practical of course): i.e. if you can get a better deal somewhere else, I would take it. (note: "better deal" doesn't just mean lower taxes, there are many issues to consider)

>We're still the best country in the world, which is plainly evident once you've spent enough time running around the world.

I've spent a few years out of the U.S. and I strongly disagree. The fact is, I disagree with the idea of a "best country in the world". I think which one is best for you depends on what you want.
How to learn Erlang (or any functional programming language) « Voodoo Tiki God
I must say I was thoroughly confused a minute ago...I thought it was some bizarre Erlang spam-bot that had attacked HN.
Erlang Has Become Trendy - Onward To Monads
Erlang Distribution
Wow, dude that's an awesome title. Did you come up with it yourself or is there a team of writers behind dot dot dot wow?

You can generate a lot of traffic with those editorial skills, but it's a lot more effective if you're at a more popular site. HN is so boring and not popular, why waste your time by submitting such catchy headlines here?
Erlang B and Telephony
> You can help the spike subside by making HN look extra boring

What, submitting a post where I laboriously implemented Surreal Numbers step by step wasn't boring enough?
> We're still the best country in the world, which is plainly evident once you've spent enough time running around the world.

Sure, the US is the best country in the world... unless you like democracy, equality, high standard of living, low rate of crime and corruption, universal access to high-quality education and medical care, and civil rights.

The list of countries that score above the US on those metrics is very long, including a healthy chunk of the EU, non-EU European nations and Scandinavian states, and major former British colonies (Canada, Australia).
"keep this site from turning into just another reddit"

Why, because reddit has a wide variety of interesting links on its front page instead of a page full of Erlang links?
Tell HN: I love Erlang
Need I say more? This is the greatest Erlang discussion board ever!
First of all, Erlang is something very much worth learning about.

Second, it will only be this way for a short while. As you grow older your attention span will natural grow, don't worry about it kiddo.
I don't suppose anyone knows of a Ruby interface that let's you call erlang directly from ruby as a true erlang node (like py_interface for python).
But the errors aren't random; they are (experiment shows) overwhelmingly in the direction of optimism. How can it take lots and lots of expensive little detail work to correct such a gross statistical bias with a known direction?
You might also get the occasional serious hacker who is just retarded at math (like me!)
In my case, I'm not too worried about Slicehost imploding anytime soon since they were just acquired by Rackspace not long ago. As for going rogue, that's been a concern of many as a result of the acquisition (will they suddenly up the prices or cut the quality? etc). Since they were acquired essentially to compete with Amazon, I imagine they'll probably keep the service fairly stable/competitive at least for a while, and from my interactions with their team I trust the sincerity of their desire to do so.

I do use a separate domain name registrar already, for the same reason, so I can always change nameservers and move elsewhere already. Should I really be concerned with total DNS control for the same reason though?
We do a 5 day comment ban at http://forum.doom9.org/ works very well. Spam is a rarity, and the talk is quite good. Example: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145561
Ask HN: work from home or rent an office?
We're currently 3 people each working from home on two projects, but because we each live with other people there is no convience place to meet up and work together.
Do you think it's worth paying 1000$/month for an office (and pay 6k as advance)? I feel like productivity could massively increase and we'd feel more like were one team working on a common goal. Right now it seems scattered and there's very little accountability.
On the other hand we want to keep costs as low as possible until a certain amount of revenue comes in.
What are your experiences? Has anyone successfully built products (and generated sales) by working remotely together? What are the advantages/disadvantages of renting an office?
I chuckled when your story came up, and then I laughed out loud when, like you, I came back 20 minutes later and the entire front page is Erlang stories.

Many Lolz.

In the next few years we'll begin saying, "You remember when pg told us to submit Erlang stories?" "Oh yeah, good times."
Personally I would like to see things get to a point that people switch countries as often as they switch jobs. Anything that would force countries to compete with benefits vs. costs. Many people talk about market forces driving inefficiencies out of the market place. I don't think the Government should be so shielded from this. I would like to see the government be the best it can possibly be and no government is anywhere near that atm IMO.
Hey, how do you know it's affected by pg's statement? Maybe it's just coincidence!
Same here. I couldn't fathom why Erlang would be that hot of a topic all of the sudden.
Two words I'd use - stubbornly persistent.
HN's first meme : http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=98435 [421 days ago]
Synopsys Design Compiler-A quick Tutorial
Darknets and the future of P2P investigators
Wow, this is as fascinating as the erlang stuff!
PG's statement may or may not have caused the flood of Erlang submissions, but I did see a strong positive correlation ;)

http://xkcd.com/552/
Twentysomething: Why it's smart to quit a job after just two weeks of work
Bullwhip effect - A behavior phenomenon
I think that's something that could happen here now because of the whole Erlang think.

I see people starting to up-vote everything else because they want to bury the Erlang story and so on, and so on...
you pretty much nail it. office time is typically more productive. however, if you're paying $1k/mo for 3 people, i'd think you're overpaying. try and find a good coworking space. (i'm been giving thought to setting up a space myself). a good coworking space should theoretically have the benefits of a dedicated office space, but cheaper.
I think that's something that could happen here now because of the whole Erlang thing.

I see people starting to up-vote everything else because they want to bury the Erlang story and so on, and so on...

btw. the beer distribution game mentioned at the end of the Wikipedia Article is very entertaining and educating...
Not sure where you are located, but surely you could find a small studio apartment that you could rent for cheaper than $1k a month.

I know my market is cheap, but you can get a 400 sq ft studio here for $400/mo (with everything but electricity and internet included).

At this stage it doesn't need to be 'commercial office space' to function as an office. I'd imagine any room that you'd all fit in would be sufficient.