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"we have so many people on this thread who are bashing the guy because he made more money than you might judge reasonable."

attributing (bad) motives to others does not help make a strong argument, and you are probably wrong anyway. No one here has said they were "bashing" anyone because he made a tonne of money. When taxpayer dollars are put into a company that crashed and burned , there is a valid argument that they have some say on how their money is(or is not) spent. You think if a professional investor (say Warren Buffet) put his money into AIG, he would have no strings attached? (There are valid counter arguments to all these points but implying objectors are jealous/envious/evil is counterproductive).

"On a board that purports to attract entrepreneurs"

Entrepreneurs are fine with the idea that if their company crashes and burns they get nothing, so your juxtaposition is invalid.
Maybe you need to send them to collections.

Stop laughing. You're in business now. Businesses issue invoices, businesses pay invoices, if businesses don't pay invoices they get sent about one letter as a polite reminder and then things get escalated from there.

If they fob your collections office off with a form letter then you sue them, get a judgment, and send over the sheriff's department to enforce it.
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The argument was NOT the one you cherry-picked. The argument was that bailing out financial institutions is NOT the same as bailing out non-financial institutions. Since you did not get the idea, I assume that Finance is not your forte. My mistake for not having made my point more explicitly.

What we are witnessing is collective schadenfreude. Most people are happy to see these giant institutions fall. Unfortunately, most people know zero of Economics and Finance and fail to realize that if some institutions collapse, we might end up in an even worse situation.
He seems to think that making obscene profits == doing nothing wrong. Not always true.

The loopholes found and exploited by these guys, for the institutionalized purpose of making a killing, sometimes have nasty side effects like destroying good companies and draining the pension funds of average workers.

All in the name of profit, which is great by the AIG yardstick, but not so great for the rest of us.
"The argument was NOT the one you cherry-picked. The argument was that bailing out financial institutions is NOT the same as bailing out non-financial institutions."

You asked a series of rhetorical questions of the form " Do you realize blah". That isn't "argument" or reasoning.
Do you expect people to automatically agree to anything you say just because you say "do you realize.."?

"Since you did not get the idea, I assume that Finance is not your forte."

A better assumption is that you didn't make your point well ;-)
AIG is a large company; the set of people with personal responsibility for the credit-default swaps is much, much smaller. That said, it seems like a massive failure of risk management for the senior management to have allowed this situation to develop as it did.
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Plenty of people on this thread have commented on how much the guy makes and used it to undermine his argument. Given this, I'm not sure why you think the 'juxtaposition was invalid'.

I didn't say that tax payers shouldn't have a say on how the money is spent. But that doesn't excuse Libby from breaking his promise to his senior staff.
Or will he lose his scholarship for doing part-time?

To answer your question: at Stanford, you have to take at least 12 units per quarter to be eligible for financial aid, unless you have special circumstances (i.e. illness). On top of that, I think you can go on academic probation if you don't take that many credits... Stanford doesn't really want you to do undergrad part-time.
See this old discussion: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?biz.5.317735.1...
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True, I concede that I didn't make my point well. Also true is that my goal was to counter the OP's argument, not present a forceful one.

I don't know what you do in your professional life and I would be lying if I said I care. Before coming to grad school I worked at a hedge fund and I realized I know practically zero of Finance. I strongly believe that discussing the details is what matters, and no one on HN is qualified to discuss the details on the AIG debacle. Let's face it. These financial discussions here on HN are usually enormous displays of ignorance (there are rare exceptions). This community's forte is coding. No one around here knows what's on AIG's books. I bet no one around here is a great bankruptcy lawyer. Even those who know Finance only know a few instruments, and AIG was trading a lot of instruments. It would take decades for one to learn all it takes to REALLY understand what's going on in Wall Street.

Knowledge is not a matter of consensus. Some comments are written by clueless people. Many of these comments are upvoted by even more clueless people. I make no claims that I know what is going on, but I see a lot of pompous fools on HN who believe they know it all. I say, let us go back to coding because we all suck at Finance. I only happen to suck less than most because I worked in the field.
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The problem is that Apple can behave as they want since they can prevent him from ever making a sale again if they want.
I did some digging into their docs. It looks like it is peristent as long as the virtual disk for the virtual machine(s) are persistent.
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Their commercial pricing seems pretty competitive with other "cloud computing" offerings. What quota issues are you talking about?
I see what you're saying, and I do miss the days of Firefox 0.6. However, the minimalist browsers (Chrome, Firefox pre-1.0, etc.) aren't enough for constant use.

Have you given up Firefox?
Money is fungible, sure. But if his division was profitable even after paying his salary, you can't fairly say "profit from [Credit Default Swaps] probably helped pay his salary".
"I concede that I didn't make my point well. Also true is that my goal was to counter the OP's argument, not present a forceful one."

I fail to see the difference.I would have thought the best way to counter someone's argument is to make a logical, coherent counter point.

I am not questioning your background. I am sure you have many valuable points to make and I look forward to hearing them. My background is irrelevant as regards how well you are expressing yourself.

Our disagreement (such as it is) revolves around your use of such terms as "pompous fools on HN who believe they know it all".

I'd much rather assume that someone on this board is intelligent (taking out the "fools" part) and has put some thought into what he/ she is saying (removing the "pompous" part). He could still be mistaken though. That doesn't make him a "fool" or "pompous".

It is very possible that you have more knowledge of finance and what happened at AIG than the hacking centric folks on this board. This is a good thing.

What I find less than optimal is your hurried/ill thought out arguments (" do you realize .. ") and your constant "attack the person vs the argument" style.

If you would use your knowledge of finance to illuminate the errors made by others (vs calling them names) with solid reasoning and argument that would be very valuable. That kind of high quality conversation is what HN was set up for.

I'm done with this thread and will let you have the last word if you so wish it. :-)

I am not a United States taxpayer and have no stake in the whole AIG debacle at all. Peace.
But also in a bankruptcy, care is taken to separate out profitable divisions (often for sale to other entities), and those divisions are only valuable if the staff stick around. So one of the first things arranged post-bankruptcy are retention contracts much like the ones in question here.

It's hard to manage a giant company with some runaway losses/liabilities and other profits/assets. It can't be done by op-ed, radio call-in show, or congressional hearing.
It sounds like a healthy attitude. It's not like Scheme and Python are radically different languages.
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This is great news for people like us. The down side is that publishers may not publish the books, since open access will definitely going to reduce their revenues. It will be interesting to see if MIT can do something like announcing about the literature and hosting it. Which was being done previously by publishers.
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Dude, I have no problems with you. You pointed out some flaws in my arguments. You didn't act as if you were an expert. You didn't act as a pompous fool. My problem is with the collective belief here on HN that just because most of us are good at coding, then we are soooooooo smart that we can understand any topic without any study. That is naive and offensive. People in other fields who take decades to become proficient are not stupid. It takes a long time and a lot of effort to become an expert in any field. Period.

"I would have thought the best way to counter someone's argument is to make a logical, coherent counter point."

True. The problem, you see, is that I don't know what is happening at AIG! What I do know is that I know close to zero on that topic. What I do know is that many people try to paint things with a very broad brush and go for simplistic and superficial analyses.

You are right that my writing style is a bit too aggressive. I get downvoted all the time because of that. I should remind myself that I am no longer in the jungle-like financial world. And though I am not a U.S. citizen, unfortunately I am a U.S. tax-payer :-( Peace.
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Reserve time for HN in your schedule. So you won't spend too much time on it. :-)
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Wow. I kind of meant that as a "shoulder shrug" comment. Didn't think it'd start a huge debate and have its karma shoot up and down like a hot air balloon on a windy day! Cool.

The point was more along the line of being an answer to the implied question "why should my huge bonus be effected when it was just my employer that was acting nutty". He got more than 700k after taxes. Would this have been possible without the other bogiosity that was going on at AIG? Should he still just be paid this even though his company has entered a type of receivership to the US taxpayer because it basically completely failed? Was the very idea of a > $1M bonus for what he did there part of the flood? I was thinking yes.
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I do think there is a legitimate debate as to whether or not we should have bailed out AIG. To address your later points, there are plenty of respectable people who argue we should have let AIG go bankrupt. "Financial experts", if it makes you feel better, for example Jim Rogers, whom I mention since you seem hung up on this point.
I don't really get what's so great about Xobni.
I use it at work, but except for the contact search and attachment features it isn't very useful.

It's just as good as many addons developped without many resources for Thunderbird, not worth a 10M funding in my opinion.
Firewalls aren't DDoS mitigation devices, they're staeful policy-enforcement devices. DDoS attacks are attacks against capacity and/or state - firewalls must be protected from DDoS just like hosts (even more so, in fact).

Implement iACLs, uRPF, and S/RTBH at your edges, and work with your SP on a reaponse plan.

And take your server out from behind the firewall. Stateful inspection makes no sense at all on a front-end server, where every connection is by definition unsolicited. Harden the OS, harden the apps/services, run a chrooted jail, use tcpwrappers and mod_security and mod_evasive, and use stateless ACLs in an ASIC-based router to enforce access policies.

By placing the server behind the firewall, you increase its vulnerability due to the potential for exhaustion of the connection table by an attacker. You can use firewalls between the tiers of a multi-tier setup, where you can control the number and types of inbound connections on a bidirectional basis, but no one who operates high-volume publicly-accessible servers puts the the front-end behind a firewall, because it does nothing to increase the security posture, and can actually be harmful.
I think the whole point is that Libby now can't keep his promises because he ruined his company, in part, by making such promises.

I could promise you a gold plated Mercedes for making me a sandwich. The difference is that I haven't got one, and once I've eaten the sandwich, I can't just show up and ask Congress to spot me one to give you.
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Knowing that Jim Rogers argues that we should have let AIG gone bankrupt does not affect me. What I am interested in is knowing WHY Jim Rogers believes that AIG should have gone bankrupt. I would like to know on what ground he argues that. Do you have any URLs on that? I am intrigued.
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My company still made a very good profit last quarter, and the last two quarters have been the best ever for my division. And yet my company has still told us there won't be any merit increases due to the economy. So, for this guy to whine about the pressure to give back the bonus when his company lost $60 billion is pretty outrageous.
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1.hmm, well, if you try it you'll see
that at least in the area of programming languages, after
spending some time you'll see that you reinvented s-expressions.
2. can be very interesting to see for example
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(loop [idx 0 acc 0]
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Build something like this for web monitoring:

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This article seems a bit confused about how the worm is spread: It is a simple bruit force password attack, targeted at mipsel Linux-based routers.

The post at DroneBL (linked to by the article) seems to be a better read:

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Review at iPhone App Ratings.org:

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I can't stay away when in office, but when working on my own at home, I hardly visit HN once in may be two hours for 5-10 min.
I'm not sure it's too extreme. take it to NANOG. We'd need the support of big players, much more than one-and-a-half rack operations like me. (though bcp38 compliance is much more common amongst the big players. Heck, the provider I'm moving away from doesn't do it, something I didn't know before I signed a contract. For that matter, I only do it on outgoing IPv4. I don't do it on incoming packets or IPv6. This will be corrected in the network upgrade that is in progress now, but still.)

The big problem with your proposal is verification. It seems... difficult to verify that another network properly implemented BCP38 without actually putting a probe on that network.
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Have you ever gone back and looked at your own code that is ~2 years old?

It usually takes some time for me to get familiar with what I was trying to achieve, I should comment more, but what I'm trying to get at is that code that ~18 years old is probably very different from the code you're making today.
openbsd has synproxy

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and urpf

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which sounds a lot like the features you describe.
Adam - congrats on the funding and getting out of the Beta stage. Awesome product, but since you asked for features, how about adding some more 3rd party integration options? You already do Hoovers for company information, but it could be applied more generically to other types of news. i.e. breaking news about topics/keywords in my e-mail.

If you make it optional, it won't be annoying. But I can see it add value because I sure as hell want to know if there's any news about subject X if I'm about to send an e-mail about X to someone.

BTW, I wanted to drop you an e-mail about this, but couldn't find your contact details in your profile or on Xobni or on your blog!
Thanks. I Was also having those linking errors when I was trying to build. I wonder if it has anything to do with the 3.0 SDK?
If I had the means, I would be happy to donate to local schools. I believe in giving back to society. Besides, I am a rather social person. I just don't like to be coerced into doing things I don't like... like having to put up with neighbors I don't like just because they're part of my "community" and I need to be good to "my community" so they will reciprocate. I think that my money, my attention and my time should be invested in those who are worthy, not necessarily in those who happen to live in the same street I happen to live in, that's all.
From my experience at ISPs

they tend to be very cost conscious, and far more likely to use a NIX box to do this sort of thing. ISPs are generally competing in a comparatively low-margin market. Usually it's the large corporations with less NIX knowledge (and someone else's money to spend) where I see the really high end firewall/proxy/load balancer gear.
If an attacker can not change it's IP, it is easy for the person under attack to automate the identification of an attacker. In the case of a syn flood (that is, if the attacker is sending an amount of traffic that overloads your box or application rather than your network) it's simple enough to automatically block attacking IPs. The reason why this doesn't work now is that the attackers are usually spoofing the source.
it's easy to track down an attacker if they do not spoof their IP, at least to track it to the network it came from. Its something the victim can do.

tracking down the network a spoofed packet came from can be quite a bit more difficult; If you have access to all your routers, you can track it to the peer or upstream the traffic is coming from, but it might be a peer of a peer of a peer (or a customer of a customer of an upstream of an upstream) requiring quite a lot of cooperation to track down.
It sucks that he had to live in his Jeep, but--Stanford has a lot of work-study positions reserved especially for students like him. He can earn $12-$14 an hour shelving books and spend half the time studying. He could do research in sociology and get room, board, and a little money left over during the summer when he's not getting sizable fellowships from the Haas Center. In fact, if he did research, he wouldn't have to lose any housing at all! If he's still not able to find housing for two weeks, something's wrong with his money management ability or ability to seize the plentiful opportunities Stanford gives him on top of his free tuition, room, and board.

It sucks that he feels like a fish out of water, but come on--imagine how much worse it is for an international student. I knew a kid in my freshman dorm who had never seen a pumpkin before, didn't know what the hell it was. It's equally bad for someone who was an introvert, chronically shy, dumped into a dorm full of loud parties where someone was always going to the ER every weekend because they'd drunk too much. He has it pretty good, and I believe that Stanford has done the most it can at this point.

I'm slightly shocked that he also says he's moving to a poorer part of the country to get away from all us rich kids. Nobody I've ever met at Stanford has shown any disrespect or distaste for poor students. One of the most popular staff members in my co-op's getting the whole free ride from Stanford, plus tons of work-study opportunities. It's very sad that he's leaving because of some insecurity that's only in his own head.
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now, this is an interesting part of allowing edits. I could have changed my post entirely to make it look like I was right all along and the guy below was just ranting. It seems like the 'edit' button needs to have a wikipedia like 'view changes' mode so people can see how your position changed, or maybe the 'edit' mode should be disabled after someone responds to your comment, to preserve the flow of conversation.
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Some minimal standard of intellectual ability and interest. That really shocked me when I got to Stanford. I met people who'd gone to fairly decent high schools who were taking what was basically remedial math, and plenty more people who didn't really seem that interested in their classes or majors. I had a reaction similar to the OP when I saw that kid had a 1300. I knew plenty of smart, motivated people with better test scores who they could have still drawn a very diverse class from.