skysight-inc/HackerNews huggingface dataset:
Congratulations guys (if you're reading). I'm sure this has nothing at all to do with Ruckus going public [1] :-) Its a great exit and Cisco certainly has the manufacturing and marketing reach to take you to the next level.

That said, I find it fascinating that my first experience with wireless gear was with Aeronet (which was also $1B+ buy for Cisco) And of course Linksys ($1B+). And now Meraki ($1B+) So here is the multi-billion dollar question, "Why does Cisco keep spending billions of dollars on WiFi companies and still they aren't leading the market in WiFi innovation?"

[1] http://www.ruckuswireless.com/press/releases/20121116-ruckus...
Can you elaborate?

You're saying they suck?

Can you explain exactly why... as a tech design integrator fro major clients who really like and use them - I need to know how they suck in a very specific way so I may avoid such mistakes....

wait... areyou saying they are way far above non-sucky?

Sorry the song of your people is foreign to me.
Maybe Microsoft will get it right for Windows 9, like they did for Windows 7.

It might be too late, though. I never thought I'd use a Mac, if only because Windows was good enough, and I like Windows 7. But knowing the Upgrade Train is approaching, eventually to make it difficult not to upgrade to Windows 8+, and using Linux more often, and having got real tired of facing a significantly different OS UX every few years for mostly no benefit to me, I find myself reluctantly researching a switch to the Apple world. If I'm considering such a move, there must be tons of other people in the same boat since I don't make big moves easily, especially not at higher cost.
Most scams might have a terrible success rate, but the scammers still make a lot of money. Over $80mil in scam losses were reported to the Australian Government last year, s surprising amount were from Nigerian style scams and the like that you'd think nobody would fall for. For every person that is willing to send money via western union to some guy in Nigeria, there would be thousands who would click through these links.

2011 Scam report by Australian Government is here: http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1039349
I've passed your research onto the authors of this report, thanks for sharing it.
I am a 'Quiet One' and I used to search high and low for locations I could find peace. But recently I've stopped depending on my surroundings being quiet and started listening to white noise on my phone or laptop. I use simplynoise.com (they have an app) and I can find my quiet place even in a crowded coffee shop. I also use it often in the office when I need to get work done without distractions.
> After spending some time in Taiwan, I found myself slurping tea and hot pot by default. I came to realize slurping has it's advantages – in particular, you don't burn your lips and tongue on hot liquids.

Slurping sounds generally annoy me, but I'll admit I slurp that first sip of coffee because I'm never quite sure exactly how hot it will be.

I think it's the repetition more than the actual slurp that bothers me, though. Any repetitive sound can send me into a rage after about a minute.
I've never quite gotten this idea. Why does reporting force a company to go public? Aside from the liquidity, what does a founder gain from going public, and in return for ceding control of the company? How does forced reporting change the equation?
I just hope that they don't have the same result as the acquisition of Airespace in ~2006...

Airespce brain trust cashed out and jumped out and left Cisco's wifi product poor at best...

So many mistakes... they have solidified their offering - but if you were an airespce/cisco customer when that happened -- it was horrific.
It was a weak attempt at injecting humor. As happens usually, these things fall flat.
Further more - Cisco lead times are HORRIFIC - Meraki, 2 days...

EDIT: just to clarify - very large enterprises like to get their orders directly from Cisco, with a middleman to cover the "non-direct" status in order to apreciate the largest discount they can (typically ~47-49%)... this eliminates the overhead of dealing with ordering out of distribution - but it murders your lead times and deliverability...

Meraki was one of the most up-front straight forward orders: "Yeah it's in stock and in Fremont - we can have it to you next day, or 4 hours, so no need to order a spare MX400..."
But that's one of the big problems. USCIS has almost no ability to "send people home" when their visa expires. The fact is, if you enter the US (legally or not, it's pretty much impossible to make you leave).

That's why you see tourist visas denied for people who are coming from developed countries and are visiting relatives. The immigration official knows that one he lets you in, he has to count on the person's goodwill that they'll leave.
That grey font on dark background is almost impossible to read.
> Is there a significant group of people that absolutely abhors all rhetorical figures of speech? Or is it only specific ones, such as metaphors and hyperbole, with simile being mostly OK? Just curious.

In medical circles it would be called "learning disability".

On a more serious note though, mocking people who use a lot of metaphors is a good way to try to make yourself look intellectually superior. I see it a lot these days and I find it very passive aggressive. Back in school people making those kinds of comments would be called smartasses and have their asses kicked for using that kind of language.
There are improvements in taskbar on multimonitor systems, now there is distinction between main taskbar and secondary taskbars which can show buttons only for windows from same display.

The main problem of W8-haters with new Start Screen instead of old Start menu is that it distract from work by showing in app list in fullscreen, but in your case it only takes on display from 3.

>It was specifically built to make programming, electronics design or mechanical design far more productive. If doing a web project it is not uncommon to have multiple browsers, virtual machines and IDE's going as well as PDF's and reference material. Similar scenarios exist when doing electro-mechanical design.

You will not see changes in your workflow if you install W8 because you work with applications, not OS, and all desktop functionality is preserved except start menu and Flip3D.

So probably you have no reasons to install W8, but you don't need to worry that you could not to work on it if you will be forced to.
The point may be that we are all that "guy" (or girl) at some point. How often to we all ignore someone else assuming the other person is the jerk?

This 'condition' is often exacerbated when you realize thinking is less "work" for you than it is the average person.
Looking at some of the reviews, it sounds like this hardware has its limitations, namely that it does a poor job of blocking out sounds in the frequency of human voices, which is the main thing that jhandl seems to be looking for.
thanks -- will fix
What Could Have Entered the Public Domain on January 1, 2012?
I'm so glad Go removes these sort of nitpicky style problems with gofmt. At first I was bothered by how gofmt makes things line up like this, but now I prefer no style guide and a tool that formats stuff for you.
> and at the end they combined the two very quickly as an afterthought

This 'lack of team play' is the reason Sinofsky was fired.
Launchy is your friend.
Question for HN (loaded one): What do you consider to be the most "expensive" app (in history) in terms of development cost?

EDIT: Clarification - mobile app, as stated in the article.
How do people use these sort of things? I'm genuinely curious. It's not even that fancy of a calc app, since you can't support numpy or plotting.

If someone could implement something similar to http://www.mathworks.com/mobile/ for Python, now that would be cool!
I remember way back in 2006 or so when Meraki was a startup trying to sell the hardware units geared towards community wifi systems. A short time after getting the units out into the community they 'pivoted' away from that model and started charging for the service: obviously trying to gear their stuff towards business customers.

I'm glad this pivot worked!
ask the user to check what they entered and try again
"This is must be a somewhat American problem. I once was at a Cheescake factory there, where it was so loud we could hardly talk with each other. We hypothesized that they do this for a higher turnover."

I've heard that the loudness in restaurants isn't meant to increase turnover - it's actually used to attract people to the restaurant. The average restaurant-goer in NYC seems to have an aversion to places that are quiet enough to carry on a normal conversation. They apparently find the noisy environment to be stimulating and exciting. There are even special sound systems designed for restaurants that amplify certain components of the ambient noise if the natural acoustics of the room aren't noisy enough.
I used Python, but recently discovered Pythonista for iOS. Far nicer looking interface, plus it ships touch and layer libraries for graphics stuff.
It amuses me when people from western countries complain about noise(most comments contain clues to location).

Having lived most of my life in India, noise has never been an issue for me, even while doing tasks that require intense concentration. It's like the brain implements a band pass filter for most ambient noise, you never notice it. I have also noticed that the more I concentrate on a task at hand, the less I notice anything else around me.

On the other hand, I have been living outside India for the past few years and I notice noise a lot more.

Make what you want of this but it has lead me to believe that our perception of noise is a function of our state of mind, the ambient noise level and our conditioning/habituation. The takeaway being that it is possible to learn to ignore noise, since in most situations one may not be able to control the source of the noise.
According to Wikipedia:

> Up to this point, Opera was trialware and had to be purchased after the trial period ended. Version 5.0 (released in 2000) saw the end of this requirement. Instead, Opera became ad-sponsored, displaying advertisements to users who had not paid for it.[25] Later versions of Opera gave the user the choice of seeing banner ads or targeted text advertisements from Google. With version 8.5 (released in 2005) the advertisements were removed entirely and primary financial support for the browser came through revenue from Google (which is by contract Opera's default search engine).

So 2000 through 2005.

This seems to be borne out by the more specialized History of the Opera web browser page:

> Opera 5, released on December 6, 2000, was the first version which was ad-sponsored instead of having a trial period.

[snip]

> Version 8.5 was released on September 20, 2005, Opera announced that their browser would be available free of charge and without advertisements from then onwards, although the company still sells support contracts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Opera_web_browse...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_%28web_browser%29
Off the top of my head, Color?
I lost a pair of these and I just replaced them. So I've bought two pairs in two years. To me the noise canceling is worth it. I also have an aviation headset from them that's lasted me a very long time so I like the quality. I don't consider them the best, I just really like them. The best would probably be a set from Sennheiser or Denon. I'm not an audiophile, I'm more of a silencephile.
You guys are missing the point.

Github did not raise money BEFORE they figured out how investors would generate a return. They are likely to have an IPO. That's a decision you make before you decide to raise money.

It is also a decision you discuss with the investors.

If you take the money from them, without aiming to some sort of exit - or rather, under the pretense that there will be some exit and then "change your mind", that could easily be classified as fraud.

Now...please don't be mistaken. I am not saying that Ryan Carson has committed fraud....but this is a big big deal - assuming that his investors were under the impression that they would have some sort of exit.
The start menu was always kind off useless

No, it was not. It was nerfed in Windows 7, presumably as a way to deprecate it before Windows 8 got rid of it entirely, but it was very useful for a great many people before that.

Installing ClassicShell to put the XP Start Menu back is the very first thing any power user should be doing on a new Windows 7/8 machine.

If I want to type the names of programs to run them, I'll launch a DOS box. I thought we had collectively agreed as an industry that this was not the best paradigm for the majority of users.
Safari on my iPad has recently gotten into the charming habit of, say once every two days, suddenly vanishing all my bookmarks and history - fixable only by a cold app restart : )
Most limited partners who give their money to VCs are university endowments and pension funds. If you're the manager of a pension fund, you want cash back once the fund shuts down, you certainly don't want a piece of paper saying you own X number of shares in a company.

I don't know the details of this deal, but suffice to say, the VCs already know what their exit plan is.

I know in the biotech space there is a trend towards exits other than acquisitions or IPOs. You basically create LLCs and any returns are funnel back through to shareholders (through dividends??).
It's been a while since Microsoft have changed the interface for finding and running applications (I think the last major change would have been from Windows 3.1 to Windows 95 and the introduction of the start menu), but I'd be surprised if the start menu was the absolute be all and end all solution for the problem. I'm not saying that Windows 8 has a superior way, in almost every way it's an inferior experience, but that the presence of the start menu should in no way make or break windows 8.
I've come to view it as an aspect -- even if unconscious -- of competition.

The noisy folks tend to be a lot less effective (in particular, I mean those who chatter half the day away, and whose mistakes I was constantly fixing).

But... with their noise and disregard for my own concentration, they dragged down my effectiveness. (And my peace of mind and ultimately, health.)

One reason I now advocate -- strongly -- removing oneself from such environments as soon as possible.

I received a strong, sustained, and somewhat domineering message that I was the one who needed to adapt. And, being young and inexperienced and without much power, this caused both some significant self-doubt and great frustration.

I can't make up what I lost. But I can advise others to avoid similar loss.
510 people seems a bit low for the whole campaign, but assuming you're correct, 1 mil is still a ridiculously small amount of money for such a serious campaign. We're basically talking the position for the most powerful man in the world.
Bonds are never obsolete. My dad knew a guy whose family owned some sort of bond with a 150 year maturity. It was used to build a long-defunct racetrack in the Bronx, and is now a NYC obligation.

Is cutting out coupons a little silly? Sure. But the money is quite real!
Dick Costolo in conversation with Ben Horowitz
The GGP is lucky in that he has not seen or heard (by choice it appears) anything in or about India that would confirm any of this. I happily forgive him and I hope that he won't have to adjust his view on an incident where he has first hand information, for instance by being the victim.

Your story about the property sounds very believable with what I've seen so far, and I wonder what happened after you sold it, if the buyer got the same treatment that you had or if this was the last of it.

And trickery like that happens everywhere, even in countries that on paper have very little corruption, I've seen a case with quite a few common elements in Canada.
win key + type or mouse to bottom left corner + type
I've always assumed that the inability to look beyond the literal is some kind of Asperger's symptom, or other autism-spectrum issue.

Could be a symptom of being a plain old nitwit, too, but not being a psychologist I wouldn't have any insight to offer beyond that.
My mother is a pretty deep thinker and she requires constant TV chatter simply because she has tinnitus and can't stand the sound of it. But I think she's an exception.
I'm hoping to be there!
In desktop mode (if it is named so) can you put shortcuts on the desktop just like on all prior windows versions?
These are good points. In practice in Canada, nobody seems to be running around criminalizing speech on contemporary issues; we as a society seem to be pretty sure that horribly racist stuff doesn't fall under the category of legitimate opposing views which deserve a platform. Who gains from that? I honestly haven't ever heard a good argument for it apart from the slippery slope.

So when we have Rob Anders, one of our most prominent MPs, stand up in the house and essentially label trans* people wanting to use the bathroom of the gender they identify with as sexual predators, nobody throws him in jail. That's something which could someday be considered hate speech, but likely won't for quite some time. As far as locking up people for "dangerous political views", like we're under some kind of regime or a black-bag spy novel, well that just doesn't happen.

I do understand it could someday be used against me. This is a spectrum, and I come down more on the permissive side than not. With regard to your last point, the very crux of the matter is it is not their viewpoints I aim to change - they are the only ones who can do that. It is the bystander, the person who hears it and sees those ideas are normalized, accepted. It's how hate groups spread. It's not like a bunch of people independently arrive at the conclusion they hate people of a certain race, then organize. It's something that spreads through rhetoric.
It was not my intention to come across that way. The person I was replying to took the position that diversity should be a huge focus when choosing the speakers.

I don't know whether or not minorities were considered in the first place, but if they were and none were chosen we would still be sitting in exactly the same position. I have no doubt that there are loads of great minority Ruby developers, but that doesn't necessarily mean they live in London, are available on the given day or are interested in conducting a presentation.

I don't think it's entirely implausible that the hosts chose their speakers fairly and ended up with this selection.
Trains would've been a better name.

Windows Trains 8.0
They raised like $41 million and shut the app down a year later. see: http://mashable.com/2012/10/17/color-shuts-down/
Depends on your definition of "App". The article is concentrating on mobile application, which is probably the definition you are using.

Regardless, I don't have an opinion on the most expensive mobile app, but your question made me think of a recent bit of news where the US military spent over 1 Billion dollars on an ERP system and the project is being scrapped. Ouch.

http://www.dailytech.com/USAF+Concedes+1B+USD+Data+Project+W...
Firstly, I must say I am completely flattered that you noticed my little comment and blew it up into this Ask HN.

Secondly, you are absolutely right that it should be addressed.

Some people are saying here that these investors gave Carson the $5MM because they have so much money that 'wasting' $5MM is no big deal. It doesn't quite work like that.

For starters, being an investor with a ton of money, you don't need to buy access to Carson. I can pretty much guarantee that people like Ron Conway, Peter Thiel, PG, Marc Andreesen, even if they didn't invest in Treehouse if they wanted something from Ryan Carson he would jump (as most rational people in the tech space would rightly do) at the chance to help them out.

If Carson took their money, with them assuming that there will be an exit - when he knew full well that he wasn't interested in one....well.....that's dishonest.

If he was very straight forward with them, which from everything I have read about him I assume this is the likely route he took, then he probably did discuss with them exit routes he will take (i.e. an acquisition).

The issue is, as an executive (especially a chief executive) you have a fiduciary responsibility to maximize shareholder value.

If you know, that your ONLY exit option is to be sold to a larger company, then publicly getting rid of your other "legitimate, best alternatives" essentially squanders this fiduciary responsibility.

In other words, if I want to buy your company. You want to sell it to me for $50MM, so all of your investors can make a good return, why would I pay that if I know that I can offer $30MM and you would be hard pressed to take it.

The only way for you to realistically bid up the price that they pay is if someone else wants to buy (or you want to take it public). You can't assume that someone will "always be there". That seems irresponsible to me.

The one option that every fast growing tech company has, is to go public. So it seems like a mistake to piss away that option for no upside.

Edit: Cisco's acquisition of Meraki is proof positive of my theory of having a legitimate alternative of going public - http://www.meraki.com/company/cisco-acquisition-faq

From the CEO of Meraki:

So, when Cisco approached with an acquisition offer a few weeks ago, our initial reaction was to politely say "thanks, but we're planning to do our own thing and take Meraki public". It turned out that was exactly why they were interested in talking to us...
Ok, so either I have forgotten or wasn't using Opera that early (but that seems improbable). This bit:

> Later versions of Opera gave the user the choice of seeing banner ads or targeted text advertisements from Google

is suspicious - I remember that when Opera was showing ads it had an ad bar above (or below) address bar. So maybe I got served ads but didn't consider them as such.

Or maybe I just idealize my youth :)