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Two recent things come to mind, Ouya and the Tesla museum. Both offered items with purchase, but the Ouya items included the Ouya itself. That presents a problem that I didn't realize until now, which is that a store has to do a lot of things relating to paying taxes, etc., when being a store was not the intent of kickstarter, so... I get it. They are not a store.

However, with the Tesla thing and related projects, I think that this gets into a really grey area- and from past experience with helping with a large site that took donations- you have to subtract the items that have value from the donation, so they have to do this if anything is given away, or at least the recipient does if they are a charity/non-profit. Was the Tesla thing a non-profit?

And not allowing 3D renderings of hardware is a bad idea. For example, if you have a valid design for something and need the money to have it fabricated, then the sponsor should be able to see the design. Not being able to do so is lame. Sometimes the design is the hard part. That is a valuable asset. It should be rewarded with money to see it through. Why place someone with no design and someone with a design on equal footing. They aren't. It's not just about fairness, it is about being able to invest in something with a future. No design- no future. Good design- possible future.
This is exactly what I meant when I said: "everything within their control to protect a user".
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There are currently 8 stories about Apple's broken maps on the front page. It seems like people are really getting a lot of joy and satisfaction out of a bad component launch, similar to when someone goes through a bad breakup, then hopes the ex has bad fortune. It's really immature.

From an outsider's perspective it gets really tired. Can we stop with the broken maps submissions for a little while? Just give the rest of us a break, who aren't overly concerned with one app on one product. There is a whole world of stuff happening, vote it up.
There's the possibility of authenticating with a SSL certificate. Fedora uses this method for a web service.

There is also OpenID, but not many sites are using it unfortunately.
> AFAIK there was no change in benefit values even though
> the rate went from 15% to 13% (approx).

That change was done as temporary "stimulus". Are you suggesting that we engage in permanent "anti-stimulus"? (FWIW, I think that the drop was dumb.)

More to the point, that change wasn't the opposite of raising the cap as the reduction applied to everyone's contributions so it isn't directly relevant to a cap discussion. You need more facts and arguments, IMHO.

As for your $600 threshold for 1099 argument, the analogous argument is that the earnings contribution cap should be indexed to inflation. (It may be going up a bit faster than inflation.) It is index, you're either arguing for the status quo or more. Which is it?

And, you didn't address my argument about the hows and whys of the cap. Instead, you went off in a different direction. Fair enough - I'll play along.

> I'd prefer some degree of 'means' testing

Why is your vague scheme better than the two ways that SS benefits are means-tested today? (There may be more than two - I'm fairly ignorant of SS.)

I should say that I'm starting to change my position on SS. When I was younger, I didn't see why younger folks should subsidize older ones. Now that I'm older, I'm beginning to see the wisdom of such policies.

SS has been cash-flow negative for a couple of years. While I applaud your efforts to keep the money flowing until I get mine back, do you really think that the next generation is going to do the same for you?
Is that mustache, or handlebars? If handlebars, maybe you could try writing a helper as I mentioned.
apple sucks.
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> In 2009, Apple sent a letter of rejection to popular app developer Tapbots -- the makers of Tweetbot and other iOS apps -- saying the clock icon the company used in its pocket converter application looked too much like the icon used in Apple's own telephone app.

Yes the appropriate response to Apple's ridiculous actions is to act in the same manor. /s

Rather than pointing out hypocrisy, how about pointing out how EVERYTHING is a copy of everything before it in design. That is a constructive position, this is just inflammatory.
"I would imagine that it would still be OK to show renderings and animations so long as the actual physical product is shown as well."

From the page, this does not appear to be the case. It's stated very clearly:

"Product renderings are prohibited. Product images must be photos of the prototype as it currently exists."

It should be interesting to see though how people creatively get around this prohibition.
What about advertising? The audience is very specific, it could be a good match for some ad networks.
If the keys were well controlled, you wouldn't have to worry about plaintext passwords in the DB either. But passwords get leaked all the time. If the key is sitting somewhere locally, when they break in to steal the passwords, they can steal the key too. There's no way the program can reverse the password without having the key pretty easily accessible.
This is actually a valid question. Surprisingly, in business you can argue your incompetence shields you. The "business judgement rule"[1] says basically you are allowed to make "mistakes". But you're not allowed to be "negligent", act bad faith or whatever.

[1] In the USA, viz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_judgment_rule
If the problem is that people who see realistic renderings feel that the product already exists, a hand-drawn (but still accurate) rendering would allow people to see that the owner sort of knows what they're doing without getting their hopes up. Maybe the same would apply to detailed plans, or other obviously-not-the-product visual design documentation.
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It shouldn't be that hard to make one. Poll HTML every N hours and et voila.

Well, that's the cheap way.
What are the problems with Go's website? If the website appeals to the target audience, than it's designed correctly.
Why not try all three over a few weeks? It doesn't take long to get them installed in order to play around.
They also copied the look of Braun's classic calculator and tape deck designs for their calculator and podcasts apps.

Is this particular instance copying? Yes.

Will it affect the popularity of said designs in a positive manner? Probably.

Will they sell more of their $400 clock (see: http://www.momastore.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDi...) as a result? I'd guess at yes.

So, in any case, they sell more clocks, or if they litigate and win, they get a license fee out of Apple. So getting copied by Apple has a downside where?
#1: How many times is too much when replying with #1 and #2?

#2: Answer: this many times.

So anyway, everyone change your Pandora password and be done with it. You can't buy anything with a Pandora account except to be able to listen to Pandora. That is not worth stealing, even if it is a great service. I pay for it, and I'm not going to stop because of Apple. They may have the library, but they don't have the years of experience that Pandora has in its market. I do think Apple will own the high-end home entertainment market eventually.
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Yeah, I find it interesting that they haven't integrated stuff like the touchscreen controller into A6. Maybe it has too much analog on it.
I think Bush said "no new taxes" and then raised existing taxes.
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Repeatedly over the years. Media defender advertised DDOSing websites as a service to IP groups.
The underlying problem here is that the legal system is 2 orders of magnitude too slow. A court should decide such disputes, but they take months or years. Kickstarter has to pull the trigger one way or the other in hours.

RFS: disrupt the legal system by offering 4-hour dispute resolution.
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I think its in the eye of the beholder.

The Go site looks fine to me, whilst https://github.com/404 is downright ugly.

EDIT: I notice how the OP link is a horrid design too. This has to be a troll.
Good point about the 10 day time frame. Perhaps that's when Google's app was submitted for review?
Interesting that the maps.google.com web site gives a different answer than the Google Maps application.

I just confirmed that I get the correct answer via the website in mobile safari, but "Directions Not available" through the application.

I guess the good news, is that (at least for people in the bay area trying to use Caltrain/Bart) - the change in the Mapping Application doesn't appear to be a regression - you already have to go to the website.

More informed minds than mine can puzzle out why the website is giving back better transit directions than iOS App.
In step 9 they removed the glued on battery.
Yeah but "brand new map service" can't be an excuse to drive people in the river or make them fall of the bridge. The product they've launched can at best be called an alpha (not even a beta product) which was a foolish decision by the decision makers IMHO.
True, Sentry is a good example of a successful open source business model. GitHub itself is probably the best example of a company that's #winning at open source. They don't give their source away, but they give their service away. But it's pretty well-established that there are business models that can subsidize open source, isn't it?

The interesting thing about Gittip is that there's no strings attached for receivers. We've already got a company advertising itself on the Gittip givers leaderboard (https://workforpie.com/). But there's a decoupling of corporate interests from personal interests on Gittip that I think is worth continuing to explore. Even if Gittip were filled with corporate donors, their contributions would still be anonymous to the receivers. There's no strings attached. To me, that's new and interesting.
Though, it's kind of hard to make things look downright bad when you're using bootstrap.

Either way, you're right. Short, readable, organized, and fast to load are the most important things in API docs, and any design candy is (should be) far lower in priority.
Maybe the problem is precisely the target audience. The current site only appeals to a very specific kind of people.
"Drinking" is the shared interest / activity.
Either kickstarter is investment or it's a preorders store, it needs to pick one, it cannot be both.

If someone is really behind the concept for a product, they can just buy the product after it's available in an online store.

I could easily see this becoming a legal requirement if it gets visible to legislature.
> So depending on the algorithm you are using, you are going to leave some of these fields in the struct as null/empty?

In Go, when you create a new variable, it's automatically set to the null/zero value. So in this case, they would be nil.
I'm as hopeful that Apple gets served its own medicine like the next guy, but this seems more like a common sense design rather than a copy.

In fact, I once made a mechanical clock that looks virtually identical to the iOS example and this was years before iOS was unleashed on the world. It's just thick lines and thin lines thrown together. The hands aren't even tapered like the Mondaine's.

This seems like a desperate grasp from Apple critics, why don't they go after more obvious examples, like the pull-down menus they borrowed from Android?

Heck, I don't even see all this "stealing" to and fro as a bad thing, but rather paradigms moving forward.

Edit: some people pointed out the red line, which this color-deficient, sleep-deprived person failed to notice. But still, doesn't this fall more under homage than rip off?
To be fair, that wasn't a case of plagiarism. The app wasn't rejected because it "copied" their icon, but because it used a familiar icon with a different meaning, potentially confusing users. They are just following good UI guidelines, although overzealously.
People at Twitter must realize that when developers talk about your API's tos rather than the API, you must have broken something. It reminds me Facebook episode of network feed and privacy. At the end of it, Mark understood what the users were talking about and took action to correct it.

The problem seems like an issue of making profit by showing promotional tweets, which will not happen in the clients. It, to me, looks like the problem of management which could not come up with better revenue model.
Wow. $100k pledged. For proposing to do something that LEGO's Pink sets are essentially already doing today, on the shelves, ready to buy.

Kickstarter is getting frothy. Reminds me of all the swill that was earning millions in the early days of the iOS App Store.
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It's the red circle on the second hand that clinches it.

It's not identical though, the minute markers are thinner, and the minute hand doesn't reach all the way to the rim.

That said, how many way are there already to design a clock?
Not sure if you're trolling but, obviously, Apple is not paying any license fees for this: “An SBB spokesman told Tages-Anzeiger that he was pleased Apple was using the design, but noted that the company was not authorized to do so.” I don't think anyone would claim there are any downsides, as long as Apple pays SBB what SBB feels is reasonable to authorize Apple to use SBB's design.
Apple also stole the idea from the bite out of the apple from Genesis. (The Bible, not Phil Collins and Peter Gabriel.)
I'm as pro-Apple as they come but, to me, it does seem hard to distinguish this instance of Apple-Mondaine similarity from the recent Samsung-Apple similarity...
No, no, no you guys don't understand. This is not a cheap rip-off. It's an homage and the Swiss will be honoured that their famous clock has been elevated to the high-art status of Apple design and innovation. The critical eye of an average iPhone user will appreciate the fine craftsmanship & precision of the painstaking work that went into translating the iconic clock into an exact digital replica.
For what it's worth, while I object to your tax-and-spend approach with cupcakes, I do subscribe to your TLS-only newsletter for key-utilizing operations, and had proposed that already. Keyless operations are more of a gray area of policy rather than security. For example, should hashing require TLS? I think not, since there are non-crypto-but-still-useful applications of cryptographic hashes and random numbers (eg: name-based or PRNG-based UUIDs as described in RFC 4122). However, splitting the interface into TLS and HTTP segments is something that has its own issues.

It's possible that a compromise might be the "Secure Cookie" equivalent of specifying policy (HTTPS-only) when creating or importing keys, but I hope it doesn't come to that.

That said, I'm also a big proponent of requiring some sort of sane CSP settings to also narrow the scope of the API usage ( http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/track/issues/21 ), but that remains an open issue.
Except for the hairline cracking at the corners that happened to most of them.
Nope, Apple took Swiss clock as base design optimized it for better iPad UI experience.
The thing is that Go has generics already for the most common data types: slices (vectors, what Python calls 'lists', others call them 'arrays'), channels (iterators, generators), and maps (dictionaries, hashes). Since there's already a built-in map[T1] T2, so you wouldn't need to build it yourself, which saves even more work.
The design is clearly inspired on Mondaine's one: the seconds handle is exactly the same.

I see it more of a homage than plagiarism, though. It would be plagiarism if it were a physical clock with the same design and they were selling it. It's not like Apple makes money selling this app.

Mondaine has the right to ask for change or compensation if they feel they got ripped off, though.
I disagree. Why would it be "common sense design" to have the seconds handle in red with a thin line and a big circle at the end? Seems waaay too much of a coincidence to say "not a copy".
Now if we could solve the other great crime against humanity: why aren't there more dressup dolls and baby toys aimed at boys? That gender-biased oppression has got to end.
it has been fixed, never mind
Let me rephrase:

What are some specific objections that you have with the Go website?
On an unrelated note, I wish there was a wall clock with the real Swiss stop-to-go[1] action...

Edit: and [2] would make for a great 11.5" laptop sticker

[1] http://www.3quarks.com/en/StationClock/index.html

[2] http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b2/SBB-CFF-FFS.sv...
Screen scraping != get arrested by feds. TOS' are not ratified laws, lol.
Note: not all girls need pink and frills to love engineering toys, building things, or even LEGO. My 8yo daughter loves to tear apart electronics for the components and build new things, and so do several of her friends.

I get that she's not "typical", but I'm not sure that the problem is that LEGO and Erector are "for boys". I lean towards thinking that the problem is that we tell kids that, one way or another.
I feel this way too. I even kind of like the no bullshit design ("design") on PHP's site as well. It's fast and it's clear and it makes me reminisce about the times when I didn't need a top of the line computer just to surf the fucking web.
> Either kickstarter is investment or it's a pre-sale store, it needs to pick one, it cannot be both.

The way Kickstarter presents itself, it's neither - it's not an investment; it's a way for creators and consumers to collaborate on a project.

That's subtly different from an investment per se,

(Whether you agree with that is a different question, but it's important to note how Kickstarter intends to portray itself).
I'm trying to figure out if you are serious about "Chinese Map Obfuscation Schemes". Your description of SA and DGPS is spot on, but I can't think of any reason that China would want to obfuscate their maps now that satellites have mapped their country.
Strategic, perhaps, but terrible nonetheless.
A lot of Ruby sites are nice, like: http://guides.rubyonrails.org/getting_started.html
I'm afraid this is as "obvious" a clock design as the iPhone trade dress is an "obvious" smartphone design. The Swiss clock is not without a number of highly identifiable idiosyncrasies, such as the circle on the second hand or the unusually thick, rectilinear minute markers.

That said, this isn't quite like-for-like. Apple isn't producing a clock for your home to compete with licensed replicas; it's producing an app that mimics the look of a famous (within a niche) clock; it's more like Samsung producing a kitchen appliance that looks like an iPhone than producing a smartphone that looks like an iPhone.
"It's not like Apple makes money selling this app."

Apple is not a charity and this app, though very minor, is part of their overall strategy to make money. It's 100% a commercial endeavor.
> More informed minds than mine can puzzle out why the website is giving back better transit directions than iOS App.

Probably because the Maps app on iOS 5 and below was made by Apple, not Google. There are no such issues with the Google Maps app on Android (made by Google) - it gives the same results as the website. In fact, it prominently displays several route options, along with their times and costs, just as in Tokyo. This is a little more obscure on the Google Maps website, although the information is still present.
> this seems more like a common sense design rather than a copy.

That describes so many design patents (including but not limited to Apple's collection) that I've lost count.

Honestly, to my eye, they look identical but for the logo.

(Not that I'm endorsing the accusation, but many actual lawsuits, including Apple's own, are founded on far less clear evidence).
Wow, cool site! I'm obsessed with these clocks now.
Financial econometrics, in particular, is among the most adavanced actual uses of statistics. This is also not all occuring in academe.
Thank you for your time on this response. It's a lot to digest!
Pink and blue toys are not about gender differences. They're about gender-based marketing.
> We tried very hard to not overly bias our kids, but the bias is in their genetic code.

Maybe you didn't mean this literally, but I think it's important not to promote this as-yet-unproven notion. There are tantalizing studies with conflicting conclusions here - we just don't know how much gender-stereotypical behavior is genetic.
It kind of reflects the aesthetic of the given language itself, to some degree- for instance,
http://docs.python-requests.org/en/latest/index.html
http://flask.pocoo.org/
both seem clean in the way python is, visually.
> Having the PHP site in your design portfolio would open doors with a lot of people.

That's true for beginners with a weak portfolio. Experienced ones don't care about php, they have commercial projects in there.

> Plus, a lot of designers are already spending their time working for free anyway. If you don’t believe me, just look at the number of Instagram redesigns or iTunes icons on Dribbble.

Hey, let's try to find a programmer who will code your website for free. Lots of them do stuff for free anyway, just look on github and bitbucket.

Now seriously (I am aware there are a lot of generalizations in there, but I think they are not far from the most common):

The thing is, just like coders publish opensource, designers publish icons and redux because it's their cause, their branch, their market. And just like you wouldn't code a random designer's project while publishing lots of libraries for other programmers, he won't design yours while publishing fonts and icons elswhere to prove something.

Second, while programming in commitee works (in general), webdesign by commitee doesn't and always results in crap. And experienced designers have the 'my way or the highway' approach anyway.

Third, most designers just don't get opensource quite well, while most opensource gurus just don't get design quite well. The former ones don't feel why they should do it, the latter ones don't feel the need to make use of the ones who would even if they are there.

If a designer finds a programmer who will work for free, 99% chance he's very unexperienced. The same comes to getting a designer for free.

ps. let's see how the Django redesign works out https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/django-de...
I can't downvote you. But I think that this is a prime example of the snarky comments that people are complaining about that are hurting HN's comment quality.
Actually, I think LinkedIn founder said in the interview that they (LinkedIn) was better off after the feature was turned off. Twitter chose to break the feature, but LinkedIn benefitted. Something about signal vs. noise...
http://www.paulgraham.com/essay.html

Has an interesting history on the subject
> PHP is an old language, a relic of a bygone era!

> And there’s some truth to this.

> More modern languages like Python or Ruby have somewhat decent sites.

Ruby and Python were both around way before PHP. Get your story straight, Mr. Hater.
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If you can't compare the Go site and, say, http://git-scm.com/ and see which one is better designed, then I don't think anything I can say will change your mind. It's just a general feeling, specific objections are not important. But here are a few anyway:

-There is no logo to establish a brand identity

- The mascot looks amateurish

- There is no thought given to typograph or colors. Contrast this with the Git site where, for example, body copy is not pure black to avoid a harsh contrast.

- The documentation uses a fluid width layout which hurts readability on wide screens