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This is an extremely spurious comparison. Apple maps is a single - though significant - component of the world's most dominant mobile platform. Any weakness in Maps poses a minimal, trivial even, risk for Apple. They are in no danger yet of being "outstripped."

The Playbook was on the other hand was a nobody product with nothing behind it and nothing for it. It had one shot at making a dent and it failed miserably, never to surface again. Apples and oranges.
Not sure in what context you want to combine them but OpenLayers enables maps from multiple services to be used together: http://openlayers.org/
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They don't just use an open source piece of software (RoR), they use the open source community to build street cred that they then cash in to score their real customers.

Don't get me wrong: I love GitHub. It's a fantastic product and an inspiration to me. Instead of paying $7/mo for private repos, I choose to give back by gittiping members of the organization:

https://www.gittip.com/on/github/github/
Those crashes primarily impact professionals... I'm not familiar with any enduring crash with sustaind impact to retail investors. I'm sure the value created by tightening spreads and creating volume dwarfs the cost of a momentary crash that impacts other professional traders (and a small fraction of retail traders).

I'm not saying that high frequency trading isn't shady, but it also serves a purpose. And I don't think the objective is to crash a market, it's to make money. These traders don't want scrutiny, so they are personally motivated to maintain order.
I don't know what happened between these two huge companies. But it is actually good that their relationship (with respect to maps) ended. Apple's maps suck today, and will probably suck for a year or two - but I'm sure they'll continue to improve. Few years from now, customers will have more options - right now, it is Google maps and Google maps only and the closest competitor is Bing, which isn't half as good as Google maps. Having more options is good, so no company can hike rates crazily like Google did.
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didn't mean to put you down or anything, sharing is caring, just that the site was all over the front page yesterday anyway (because of Twitter's updated ToS). I just don't get how these things get on the homepage, maybe there's not enough "meaty" content to go around
It's not really a good excuse, is it?
Intellectual honesty time: Show me one person who said such a thing. Every blogger who's supposedly "in the tank" for Apple that I've seen mention this has said nothing of the sort. It's an obvious rip-off, more obvious even than the recent rip-offs of Apple products that have been the subject of so much discussion. That was all about calling a spade a spade, not about defending Apple from its competitors. And this is definitely a spade, anyone with functioning eyeballs can agree. Which is why nobody has had the gall to trot out the horseshit you're implying.

Come on.
Seriously? That's fucking hilarious.

Only if you isolate it from all context. Within the context of how Spring is built and works, it's all perfectly reasonable. As cletus said above, if someone is going to slag Java, they should really pick something to pick on that is actually deserving.
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You can easily do geocoding with the OSM data. Nominatim is ready to deploy software that will let you do both normal and reverse geocoding. It is what openstreetmap.org uses for its search box.
There's lots of places we can take this, which is why I categorize it as a research project.

Being able to create unit tests from this, or being able to look at calls from unit tests here has definitely been on my mind. The way you enter the "test code" right now is not ideal in the slightest as I talk about in my post.
Not any time soon, their licenses are incompatible.

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/lc88a/were_the_google_...
I don't really care... but don't you dare tell me that class isn't hilarious, because it is.

I don't see anything hilarious about it.
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While Open Street Maps is an incredible and worthwhile project. The release of iOS 6 this week has demonstrated just how hard it is to get maps right.
I want to hit the NFC note here:

The NFC attack sounds way worse than it really is. Firstly, NFC attacks can not be made on an idle phone, phones need to be on, unlocked and practically touching the NFC tag, or other device.

As well as the fact that Android has technology that should mitigate the malicious use of NFC. I can't remember the exact measures, but I have read about it at one point.

I would think that NFC would be lumped into something around the issue of ATM/magnetic code skimmers, as possible, but not very likely.
I read the posting of this link (from 2011) as nothing more than poking fun at the "it's only beta" argument.
His /. comment on the issue is good too: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=151312&cid=12701745
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One solution: Apple acquires Yahoo and Nokia, or at least the Yahoo search and Nokia map teams.
It seems a bit hypocritical for Google to have and open source OS that gathers mapping data from a proprietary source.

Down the road, I don't want Google to be the only one with enough mapping knowledge to have self-driving car tech. That doesn't seem like data that should be owned by a corporation.
The big distinction that seems to be getting missed is that Apple isn't selling wall clocks with this design. So they aren't remotely competing with the designs that they 'copy' from.

Samsung is copying Apple, arguably intentionally, to create directly competing products.

This is a very different thing.
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I don't realize who he's talking to. Why do you assume everyone knows who you are?
So it was required to accept submissions from the public but not required to coordinate to solicit submissions from the public? Gotta love government thinking. At least someone stepped up and went beyond the requirement, shows initiative. I'm assuming that guy will get fired any day now.

I see now what you mean about the law applying in this way to previous patents, it seems one can directly submit prior art on a patent with the Patent Office as opposed to suing to get the patent invalidated. If I'm reading things correctly. But I still find it interesting that apparently this was the process: patent is screwed up and we should fix it, here's a law to fix but it'll take a year to get things rolling with the public, what about the patents on the table, grant them and we'll patch it up later.

Did these people work for Microsoft* in a previous life?

* To avoid causing hurt feelings that seems so common these days, please replace said company with whatever company you have misgivings about, serious or otherwise.
Btw, did anyone else notice that Apple credits OSM contributors for map data in the new Maps? They seem to be merging a whole lot of different sources into that database.
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Okay, true it’s not front page worthy. I guess I got a little over excited when I saw my daily workload disappearing :).
I read it as a rebuke. I could be wrong.
Has Apple ever cracked down on apps that allow the purchase of physical things for not using in-App purchases?

IIRC the only time this has gotten sticky, is when it comes to apps that allow users to buy access to more content that is accessed by that app. (e.g. buying new issues of digital magazines, buying access to new in-game content, buying new ebooks, buying new digital music, etc)
It is a pattern, not a a software project.

So you'd rather see every project that wants to use DI, roll their own DI implementation?
OSM just changed their license. Possibly for this very reason...
Because the majority of any area sucks.
Is the app actually a problem itself? It seems fast, slick and fairly clean to me.

The data on the other hand is pretty terrible but the good thing is that can be cleaned up server side. There is a lot of data to fix though so it will take a considerable time.
I used turn-by-turn directions yesterday and everything worked fine. I think people are blowing the whole thing way out of proportion. If Google Maps was so great, why did Google never add turn-by-turn directions to the iOS app? My guess is that they were simply holding it over Apple.
You and anyone else can cross-check the data at http://routes.tomtom.com/
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The liquidity argument is not a "cop-out." Due to algotrading, spreads have been tightened and cost of entry/exit have been lowered. While there are some problems with algorithmic trading, the alternative (going back to the specialist model) is downright insane. If you think algotraders are "ruining" the market and society, then, the specialists and traders were actively scamming everyone.

I'm glad that you have at least done a little bit of research, unlike the majority of articles that came out after Knightmare, but algorithmic trading is a net positive for both the market and society.
Interestingly, this is the second time the reactor has been shut down in a month. The first time was on August 22 following a leak caused by "micro-cracks" in a diaphragm in a pressurized heater bundle within the containment barrier.

http://www.whptv.com/news/local/story/UPDATE-3-Thursdays-TMI...
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That's true. He even talked to the mouse in anticipation of Siri.
In-App purchases are for digital goods only (Content, Functionality, Services, Subscriptions). You are completely free to sell real/physical goods (ie. a train ticket) via your own payment system.

https://developer.apple.com/appstore/in-app-purchase/In-App-...

"You must deliver your digital good or service within your app. Do not use In-App Purchase to sell real-world goods and services."
Have you not seen all the diferent Action Man (GI Joe in teh USA ) and all the uniforms.

And not forgetting all Matt Mason toys which Sam Carter plaied with - as did I.
I assume, like Yahoo/Flickr used OSM in places like Beijing and Bagdad, that Apple only uses OSM to fill in the gaps were their commercial sources are weak and, to be frank, where it only needs to be better than nothing.
That's not quite true about security. There is a very bad practice some ajaxy sites have where they select parts of the page using `$(location.hash)` [1]. Since that string is in the URL and entirely in control of outside code, it's pretty easy to get the page to run something that might send information to a third party. That particular hole was closed in jQuery 1.6.4 but there are still plenty of people running older versions.

We're tightening this down even further in 1.9 to prevent a few other cases, which I am sure will break some code, but the only real solution is good input hygiene and HTML escaping on the part of the application itself.

[1] http://jsfiddle.net/dmethvin/uKYUP/
Actually, this is not accurate. Before relying on our models, we get also the opportunity to validate them by checking at what extent they successfully predicts future data points.

Simply for the next t-time periods let the model give the user an estimate of the future prices/rates, together with an estimate of how accurate the model expects these predictions to be. This would allow the user to build confidence in the algorithm strategy she/he came up with, before employing it on the open market.
Pretty simple. Apple can do what Google does. Buy/license data from third parties.

You didn't think Google created all of it did you ?
The interesting question here, to me anyway, is whether this whole debacle is a sign of a real problem at Apple, or whether it was just an "oops" (like the iPhone antenna).

The conventional wisdom (for the past decade or so) has been that Apple doesn't release "beta" products. Google and MS do, but not Apple. However, this is clearly such a product (they must have known it wasn't as good as what it was replacing).

So either Apple is changing (which would be understandable, but still interesting) or this was just an error in judgment somewhere in the chain of command (which itself would be a real change, at least from the Jobs era).
They're going to solve it the same way anyone would. By spending a lot of time -- and making their vendors spend a lot of time -- addressing issues as they're identified.

And the 'cloud-based' nature of the app isn't entirely irrelevant, as it means that fixes will be available to everyone as soon as they're made. Users won't ever have to worry about running updates for their map application to get the latest fixes.
My experience is the same as the GP comment—the maps are fairly decent—and I live in Toronto.

Are there problems? Yes. Will they get fixed? Yes. Does Apple have to do an OS update to fix these? No.

People are finding major problems because they’re looking for major problems. Apple has failed to clear the hurdle of "as good as" the old mapping data from Google, but for most people I suspect it will be "good enough."
I like it. But it would be nice to have the option to deploy on my own server.
It is getting increasingly difficult to just invest in companies you believe in.

Like how twenty years ago you could buy a stock you believed in for like $4 by using a computer system, paying a fraction-of-a-penny spread on average, to have a trade executed in milliseconds to seconds, but now you have to talk to a human on the phone and pay a $400 commission to pay a fraction-of-an-eighth spread and have the trade execute in minutes or hours? That fact pattern would make this critique make sense.

No, it is fantastically easier to trade the stocks of companies you believe in. If there is a problem with the market, the "problem", and one uses that term loosely, is that people are talking about macroeconomic trends more than individual companies because the observable evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of a conclusion we've pretty much known for decades: seeking alpha is a sucker's bet.
"Destroys" is a much stronger word than what happens here, "Laughs at smartly" is probably better.
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Press "Report a Problem" just above the Print button and report the issue to get it fixed. This is a better response than all the whining. Google Maps had many, many issues not long ago and they did get things cleaned up. Same situation here. I am finding Apple Maps to be very solid, but I did notice a small issue, which I reported.
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From the article "2. I suspect that the data and routing functionality that they have from TomTom, while not the best, is simply not the source of their problems. ..."

The author of the article is suggesting the problem is the integration of lots of other data in with the TomTom data is the problem. Not the TomTom data
Here's the thing, despite the relentless mockery and snappy tumblrs (which is pretty funny) the Maps app will get better, and probably quickly. Google Maps haven't always been awesome, where I lived about 2 years ago wouldn't show up on GMaps as it thought it was a building site.

Apple had a choice, no maps or some maps. I've been running the GM for a week or so now, and I can say over the course of a week the search and directions quality has improved noticeably in my area of England. I know it sucks they've crippled it but we can either complain about it, or report the errors and hope Apple iterates fast on it.
Actually most of Google's POI data comes from established companies e.g. Yellow Pages.

For whatever reason Apple has chosen not to seek out the same partnerships. Maybe they will get round to it. Maybe they are hoping for a true crowdsourced solution.
There are many forms of algorithmic trading--some harmful (including playing games with the order book, canceling orders, etc). The types that this site seem to assist with are not those types.
I'm doubtful you'll get an Ouya to begin with.

But the point is that they have to have something to show; the Ouya itself should have had some hardware/software going. As is they were funded without even proper prototypes or software and people think they'll be getting one in March?

If you actually get an Ouya in March 2013 that has an app store you can buy games from, I'll ask PG to give you all my karma.
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You can buy a bank in a number of island nations for a few thousand dollars, as of a few years ago anyway. The book Dirty Dealing contains a lot of interesting details.

http://www.amazon.com/Dirty-Dealing-Laundering-International...
Bing has added a open street maps layer, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is in the next iteration of the Nokia 3d maps (http://maps3d.svc.nokia.com/webgl/index.html) which does not currently have street names or local listings. My question is, are they waiting for webgl to be on mobile?
Mass transit depends on your definition of "work".

If you're fine hunting down third-party apps for all of your mass transit needs then you're fine. Quite possibly better than fine since some of those third-party apps cover places the bigger players have trouble with.

If you'd like a baseline set of important cities that work out-of-the-box and want to avoid third-party transit apps as much as possible...
Who gives a rats ass about shaving off spread points? Only "traders" - not long-term investors.

Also, I have done more than "a bit of research" on the topic (I'm ashamed I was once so innocent as to make money with stat arbitrage, now I know better).

> but algorithmic trading is a net positive for both the market and society

Oh yeah? How exactly?
There's a difference between retail trader and retail investor. If Joe Schmo is a trader, looking to earn profits in the short term (days, weeks, < 6 months), the odds are heavily stacked again him, with HFT (i am kinda in agreement with Cuban there). If Joe was an investor, seeking out good companies and buying stocks with the intent to hold on to them for the long term (1 yr+) then HFT should have lesser impact. Ofcourse an investor could have made the wrong call, but then the outcome of a stock moving up or down over the long run should be related to the actual performance of the company in the real world, not some alternate universe dominated by hft algos seeking arbitrage opportunities.
I get tired of the redundancy. However, as specifically regards the maps story.

- Apple heavily markets its "refinement" and "excellence". They just shipped a product that blows.

- It's been about a year since Jobs passed. There was and continues to be much speculation whether Jobs was essential to Apple's performance (technical as well as financial). Well...

- Apple vs Google. The saga continues...

- Apple as monopolist. They may eventually get maps right. But in the meantime, they can more or less screw their users over in order to force this change. Remember, it took Microsoft "three revisions" to get many of its now well-regarded products to a performance point that induced large scale consumer acceptance. Is Apple playing that game, now?

- Lots of people apparently depend on maps, daily and heavily. They are rightly upset.

So... there's a lot going on with and underneath this story. In addition to the Schadenfreude.
> Care to explain? Logback is easy to configure and extremely efficient

Logback != "java logging". "Java logging" is some messy combination of JDK logging, Logback, Log4j, Commons Logging, SLF4J, some cruft that fell out of Avalon or Fortress or whatever it was, etc. And then you try to use a library that uses Commons logging alongside another library that uses log4j directly, alongside your code, which really wants to use SLF4J... or you deploy your code, which uses log4j, into JBoss, which configures it's own hacked version of logj4 before your code loads, and you run into needing to figure out RepositorySelectors...

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That is awful for anyone attempting to re-implement your API. It is totally unclear what field combinations are valid, and in time the situation is only going to get worse.
About half a year back, I was at some pitching contest where Steve Blank was a judge. He was bluntly clear about his point of view:

Think of a product; ask a hundred potential customers whether they'd buy that product. If not, discard and repeat this process.
Support from Bing / MS to OpenStreetMap goes even further - at least in London where I'm participating in the OSM mapping they also provide Satellite images for the editing processes.
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That corporation was the entity that spent the huge sums of money to acquire that data.
GUI Interface. You're kidding right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU
From what I understand search and ad revenue is one of Apple's revenue streams - I have no idea how large nor how to project growth. Just rehashing a vague memory.

Anyway I think there are plenty of good reasons for Apple to pursue its own maps solution; eventually all technology will be fully location-gnostic, so it seems like a pretty critical technology to me. If I were Apple I wouldn't be happy leaving that in the hands of a malicious competitor either. And when you have one of the world's largest customer bases to beta-test with... why not? Seems like pulling a tooth to me - best just to get it over with quickly, and you're glad once you do.

You call it compromising the quality of a core service, Apple might argue that effectively unless that service was in-house it was not adequate, so effectively never existed, and what they've done is get started on building the service they should have had a while ago.
Steve's point is well made here. I think there are a combination of reasons this happens all too often:

1) Most programmers are introverts and are more comfortable interacting with their code than they are with actual people (no disrespect intended)

2) It's easy to get excited about an idea and then subconsciously avoid trying to invalidate it through customer feedback. Often times throwing up a simple landing page explaining what your product with a place to sign up or even enter in a credit card can validate or invalidate an idea. Ignorance is bliss, though, and it's easier to pretend your idea will become a success if you just add enough features and polish.

3) Too much emphasis is placed on "launch day". All too often startups think of the day they release their software as the make-or-break day for their company. Rarely is that ever the case. Most startups become successful long after their initial launch. It's a marathon, not a sprint, and often times the successful version of a product ends up being very different than the launch version.

4) Fear of success. If you launch something and people actually start using it, now you're held accountable for whether or not it works; especially if you charge for it. There's a lot of stress that goes along with actually gaining traction and I think a lot of people keep pushing their launch off to avoid that stress under the guise of trying to make the product "perfect".

The tragedy, of course, is the opportunity cost of sinking so much of your time into a product that nobody actually ever wanted. In the beginning stages your number one priority should be trying to figure out the cheapest, fastest way to validate your idea, whether that be a simple landing page, a barebones prototype, or whatever other clever mechanism you can think of. When you finally do come up with something people actually want and even pay for, then spend every waking moment making it the best product you can.