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I have a hard time believing she's naive about how long it takes to develop software after being on the product side of Google for so long.
So on the surface we have Apple very aggressively attacking everything android related. Then when they switch from Google Maps, suddenly we start speculating that maybe it all was Google's fault...
I don’t think turn-by-turn (what TomTome provides) is the problem. That seems to work like a charm (at least it does for me). I get excellent TomTom-level quality here in Germany, plus the great (best of breed) traffic info from TomTom.

For me, search and POIs are slightly dysfunctional and some labels are out of whack – both of that, however, doesn’t seem to have any impact on my turn-by-turn experience. So I can believe that TomTom is not to blame here.
Yes, but, it takes time to build the relationships and reputation needed to generate flow. A single chunky project while you're doing that relieves some pressure. Plus being busy signals that you're worth hiring.

Of course, then you're working 40 hours / week on a contract, plus 10-30+ on networking, consults, portfolio projects, etc.
Nice and easy product management tool that is all about getting stuff done.
If I had the money to throw away for the application fee I was going to patent "A Digital Method for Removal of Sinus Mucal Buildup"
Only if they don't sort out a better appeals process.
1: Only bid on projects that ask for "good English skills". That's the code that means they're not interested in bids from traditional off-shoring destinations.

2: Once you win a few contracts on the freelancing websites, your customers should start coming to you directly and recommending you to others. You can then you can start raising your rates to something reasonable.

3: Send an email to the leaders of all the open source projects you have contributed to. It's quite possible they have more contracting work than they can handle and are willing to send work your way since they already know and trust you.
I don't see how your comment contributes to any meaningful discussion of this topic. I truly don't.
Apology can be accepted if they fast track google's map application to at least mitigate this mess. I am glad that I didn't update my iphone to ios6. The wife isn't so happy that I update her phone!
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Wasn't there a rumor Google has a maps app waiting for approval by Apple?
GitHub READMEs are an excellent compromise. Doing more detailed docs are quite a lot of effort (that is better spent coding), especially to projects that are at an early stage.

Projects which are an early stage (like most of my projects) should mostly try to attract potential contributors, not just consumers/end-users so it's not unreasonable to require would-be users/contributors to walk the extra mile and actually read (at least parts of) the source. I do that even for projects that are well established with docs if I intend to depend on them.

If there actually were libs that are well documented and do the same thing, I wouldn't have started the projects I did but contribute to the existing projects instead. This may not be true for all kinds of projects.
I agree. I was actually imagining that, say, the history department at some school would team up to write a textbook and publish it. What better way to build your department's reputation?
I found this week the true extent of how terrible the new iOS Maps is, when I needed to find a hospital. We needed to go to the ER in the middle of the night, and were stuck waiting at a particular hospital that was nearest to us.

I knew there was another, better hospital with a better reputation down the freeway (perhaps 5 miles) and wanted to call to ask what their wait time was. I searched "hospital" and the nearest one provided was 25 miles away. I knew where the one I wanted was and it was no where to be found on iOS Maps.

I also searched for "emergency clinics" in various naming forms, knowing of the ones I would try first… and again, came up empty of all the ones that I knew existed.

I now have a shortcut to Google Maps on my home screen and will only use iOS maps for turn-by-turn directions. I was very frustrated to begin with that night, and Apple disaster of a Map app didn't help.
Err... What? Teleatlas is owned by TomTom who is currently in bed with ...Apple!

What Google does have is that they partner with whomever has the best available information in the area of interest (check out the copyright info when you scroll around the world on google maps on the web) and augment that with streetview, Yellow Pages, crowdsourced info from Android, etc (and vetted by hand)
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Microsoft's #1 enemy right now would most likely be Google -- Balmer has been waging a war on the online front with Bing, and so far, has been losing pretty badly.

As they say, the enemy of my enemy is my friend -- partnering with Apple would boost their Bing Maps market share into double digit percentage growth, all the while taking Google's map market share down. Even if you know the relationship won't last long and that in the end you'll have another competitor in the space, the rewards far outweigh the risks.

It's far better to take down the king and fight for the throne than to always be a peasant.
You gotta understand, your talking about users. They don't actually understand logic. They work from emotion only.
> Unless you required a feature that is gone now (transit, which I don't), then it's really not so bad

How many of the users don't require accurate, up-to-date map data in a map application?
"I don't deny that new Maps aren't at the level that GMaps were, but they're not really that terrible, either. Unless you required a feature that is gone now (transit, which I don't), then it's really not so bad, at least in my experience, and has improved since the betas."

How much clearer does it need to be? He comes out and says, right there, that the parts that aren't outright missing are fine. This is not my experience, nor is it the experience of many other people I've talked to.
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Jon Gruber had a pretty good write up on this:

"But if the old agreement between Apple and Google expired in the first half of 2013 (which, again, my own sources familiar with the matter agree to be the case), that means the deal was set to expire halfway through the expected year-long life cycle for iOS 6. If Apple had stuck with Google Maps for another year they would have been forced to renegotiate with Google in a situation where both sides at the table would know that Apple either (a) had to agree to whatever terms Google demanded to extend the deal; or (b) would be forced to swap the mapping back-end of iOS 6 midway through its development cycle."

http://daringfireball.net/2012/09/timing_of_apples_map_switc...
> 'Deceit' does not start and end with the technical definition of fraud.

No, but fraud does start and end within the definition of 'deceit'.

> They shout their ads and whisper their disclaimers. Why should we ignore their shouting?

I've not personally seen ads for supplements of the kind you're describing, but if they* were* advertising features that weren't actually available in the products, that is, at minimum, a bait-and-switch ad, which is already a fraudulent practice.

> Why should you be able to sell something that you lead others to believe is good for them when it isn't?

Whether it is or isn't "good for them" is, of course, determined by them - we're in the realm of value judgments here - and while it's entirely unethical and already illegal to sell someone a product on the basis of fraudulent information, selling a product with an explicit disclaimer that states that the product has not been empirically proven to fulfill any health claims made about it is perfectly legitimate.

Selling dandelions in a box marked "dandelions" without making any unprovable claims is always perfectly OK; selling dandelions as a cure for cancer is already a fraudulent activity punishable by law.
From a user's perspective (which is what I am in this context, as are the rest of us) it's a sixth-generation product that's a substantial step backwards from the fifth generation.
Hardly the same. It starts off by essentially saying "b-but everyone else does it!", and nothing even remotely close to "we fell short on this commitment" or "We are extremely sorry".
The point he makes is kind of obvious, IMO. Anytime you lower the barriers to entry, less skilled persons can take part. He also seems to think of a programmers ability as relatively static in nature. People can learn, grow and get better. Low barriers to entry mean that you can have poor developers writ and release code into the wild. Eventually, these people will either dig in and learn, or whither and die on the vine. Even if they stay around, who are they really hurting? Bad code needs to be maintained or replaced so it keeps good devs employed :)

This just struck me as a curmudgeony rant akin to "Back in my day, we had to walk up hill both ways through the snow and fight mountain lions just to get to our unheated one room school house"

That said, certainly the first couple generations of developers solved some very hard problems for those of us here, and that should not be taken lightly. But we live in a great time right now, there is still much work to do and there is a pretty danged nice environment to do it in.
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The quality of the maps are not universally good or bad. It's a very local issue. If you have good map data in your area then you may have a great experience with Maps. If you have bad map data in your area you will have a terrible experience.
Worked at a location based services company, we were aware of an upcoming Apple Maps application before the iPhone 4S came out.
Or they try to do things that work in their "normal" games: bet sizing, giving off false tells, etc. that just go right over the head of the novice player.

There's a quote from probably Doyle Brunson or Amarillo Slim along the lines of "It's like trying to show a dog a magic trick"
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I think Eric Schmidt denied this rumor.
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I think the best strategic move for Google is to wait. They should allow the Maps issue to continue to tarnish the iPhone 5 launch for another month or two, then release their own Maps app that will capture the marketshare of iPhone power users (the people Apple actually needs who would send in problem reports). This would let the dark cloud remain over the iPhone 5 long enough to tarnish it in most peoples' minds, but not long enough to let Apple to get any substantial data improvements from it.
I can't believe Apple is essentially saying, "Whoops, my bad, here try some other stuff while we fix out mistake." It is really kind of surreal. But good on them for being candid.

I almost lost it when they said to add Google maps as a web app. That seriously made me groan out loud.
Agreed. Although, as a person who runs an agency, I do get a lot of emails a day from freelancers. So, you should try to stand out by showing your best work up front and be a real person. Don't try to sound like you're a team of 12 by saying "we" and attaching your company logo to everything. Simply say...

"My Name is protoweek and I really like what you guys are doing. I especially like your app XYZ. If you need help on a project I'd love to work with you. Here are the last three apps I've published. If you need an invite code let me know.

http://www.protoweek.com/app1
http://www.protoweek.com/app2
http://www.protoweek.com/app3
"

Something as simple as that usually gets my attention.
> Everybody who owns an iPhone 5 or everyone who has
> considered buying an iPhone 5 now knows that Google
> (and now Android) has a superior maps offering.

No. First of all new maps is feature of iOS6 which is no in hands of more than 50% of iOS users not feature of iPhone 5.
Second, there are other places in the world where new maps app is as good or better than old one was. And we finally got turn-by-turn navigation.

> They've never been a data company as it is

They've never been mobile phone makers before iPhone too, remember? "PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They're not going to just walk in".
Let's not forget their map-related acquisitions and partnership with companies in the field.
They've won the current PR battle, but if they build a Google Maps for iOS, they will win the next PR battle.

If Apple is reluctant to approve a Google Maps app, and Google claims that they have the app ready and waiting but Apple won't approve it, customers will be pissed. This would put even more pressure on Apple.

Google could absolutely prove anti-competitiveness of the App store, by simply releasing the app that existed on iOS5. If it's the exact same app, with no new features, Google could ask the question why it was good enough for iOS5, but not iOS6. If Apple is restricting its availability simply because Apple has their own maps app, it could definitely be shown as being anti-competitive, and if the DOJ or FTC started to investigate this, Apple would be in heaps of trouble. Apple would be stupid to risk getting a decision forced down their throats by the government, a la Microsoft.

The one thing that Google may be doing is waiting until after Thanksgiving or Christmas in order to release their new App. They might be letting the bad press over Maps could hurt sales of iPhone 5, and then releasing an app after January.
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But that is my experience, and was exactly what I said up top. For how I use Maps, the new version is better in every way; I'm actually quite impressed with the animation of scaling and moving around on the map, and with the clarity of features (roads, parks, rivers, etc.).
Amusingly, I gave a talk with pretty much this exact title at DjangoCon last year, and am submitting an updated version of it for PyCon next year :)
What's with the 800GHz operating frequency nonsense? In the 64 core chip, each core runs at 1GHz. I thought a $199 64 core option would have been more interesting.
I think this is a case where user testing with Apple employees or a trusted focus group failed. For something like maps, which is inherently focused on widely diverse geographies, road setups, and use cases, having just a few hundred testers (most of them in the Bay Area) won't reveal the problems for 99%+ of iPhone owners who live somewhere else.
Are you simply freelancing (one-man body shop) or consulting? The former is a short-term employee, the other involves "paying for a solution to a problem". Both are done for cost savings, but with a bit more up-front work to get in the door, the second tends to get you paid better.

I've actually taken this route as of a few months ago, and the best advice is to share your new plans with people you've worked with in the past who have appreciated your work. Former managers, CIO/CTOs, even contingency recruiters who have placed you in the past (worst case, you work something out on a corp-to-corp basis and they'll have plenty of work and leads for you).

I mostly do data warehouse ETL recovery/refactoring, database performance tuning, and some data architect work. The way I sell it is to distill my previous work down to some easily digestible details: "Automated recovery of existing processes, eliminating manual hand-held recovery. Improved performance of evening batch processes by 1500%. Reduced replication time to DR site by 70%". Then, when asked about details, feel free to explain it in excruciating detail over lunch. If they have a specific need, odds are you can get them the results their looking for -- explain your approach, common issues, and get in the door. Even for something like, "I need X built", you have to look past "I can do it" and try to figure out what the customer is looking to get out of it (increased sales, conversion, etc.) and explain not only how can deliver on those metrics, but ideally back it up with previous history.

I've had lunches with former bosses, and talked to former co-workers. I'm not the guy who networks at all (< 20 LinkedIn connections, ~20 friends on Facebook), but I was almost immediately inundated. I have more work than I can take on at the moment, which means I'm simply raising my rate by 60% for the next client -- and they think that new rate is just ducky.

Patio also covered this topic rather well: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2012/09/17/ramit-sethi-and-patrick-...
My guess is that you are an experienced developer that worked for a company and never saw the outside clients -- meaning you have no reputation in the field outside your resume.

I'd partner with a web-contracting agency in your area to start doing work through them -- something where you work directly with clients on a day to day basis.

After you've worked for a dozen or so clients, you'll start to have a reputation, and from what I've found with friends, once you quit your contracting job you'll find clients wanting to still give you work based on what you've done. From there word of mouth does a good deal of work, and going to networking events and forming relationships does the rest.
Most of the work that you are referring to pertains to real estate sales. I believe the original comment regarding the $3K and NYC brokers has to do with leasing agents/rental brokers.

I was a leasing agent before; there's really nothing to the job.
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Am I the only one to think that such an apology requires guts and honesty?

Kudos for that.
It's very well written, but I don't doubt that the entire message came directly from the PR department. Anyway, the proof is in the pudding, as they say, so let's see what they do.
It would've been better to call it a hexa-core 800mHz machine.
I would strongly recommend against giving these guys your email address.

I once bought a book from them and have had to ask them to take me off their mailing list 8 times now over a 3-year period.
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Same with Chrome 22 on Windows 7.
My take on Windows 8 is simple, as a desktop OS - you can't take core features and remove them without a viable alternative.

My biggest beef is the removal of the start menu and the search bar on it - I could do/find anything from there.

My other beef is that the Metro UI gives you all these "fullscreen" applications, but no way to window them. Windows provided me with a train of thought, but when you make everything fullscreen, it becomes distracting when using multiple applications routinely.
> I can only guess what will happen with Windows 9?

Don't major versions of Windows follow the same pattern as Star Trek movies? According to history, Windows 9 will be an acceptable release, and then Windows 10 will be ridiculous nonsense again.
Hilariously, the first related headline: "Facebook seeks to open own app store"
Not true. I spent a summer not too long ago doing quantum Monte Carlo calculations for condensed-matter physics, and IIRC Valgrind showed that the whole thing was under 5 MB. Not only did it not require 1GB of RAM, but code + data fit in the L2 cache of each node. (We were seriously CPU bound, not memory bound.) I can't speak to how much of a market there is for something with 1GB RAM, but you certainly can do "serious computation" with far less than that.
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Just curious: is that "known as a fact" now? I'd imagine that means that their own data center for iCloud is running Windows Server, too. Which doesn't really seem any less likely in today's world than Linux servers but it would be interesting just in terms of how much you could blow Apple fans' minds if you could travel back 15 years and tell them that.

EDIT: I'm wrong, as pointed out below; Azure isn't just for Windows Server.
Who thought we'd ever see an Apple CEO actually telling customers to use a competing product to something Apple made while they were the CEO?
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So basically, Tim Cook says: "Use it! Or don't."

It would've been nice to see OpenStreetMap get some mention though, as users who think OSM sucks can improve it and indirectly improve iOS maps at the same time.
Now I need a letter apologizing about the finish chipping off and the total lack of cases in the marketplace.
There very well can be a communications cascading effect as well. How many people complaining right now about iOS 6 Maps are doing so because their friends are. Just as it's cool to be the one with the new iPhone 5, it's also cool to be one of the one's that is late to the appointment because your Maps app told you to take a left instead of a right. You're one of the crowd, and you have something different.

Maybe they should have released Maps as a downloadable app. Maybe they should have waited another year. Maybe they should have... They didn't and outside of transit* there is nothing that is absolutely terrible about the app. It's immature, sure, but it's not the worst thing to happen to the international community since the invention of the atomic weapon.

* If you know any objective-c and are complaining about the lack of transit options, contact your local public transportation authority and develop an app on your own.
I think Javascript, tbh.

It covers quite a wide range of things you can do with it these days - regular web stuff, applications that run in the browser, and even server-side with Node.js.
I don't have a "my way". There is no "way" other than the way of free markets.
Except satire is supposed to be funny. Your post isn't.
Actually, I now agree with this. Like I said below, they might be delaying it to hurt iPhone 5 sales, as you mentioned. This probably makes more sense from a competitive standpoint, and then using the time to build an even better app (with 3D according to the article) and then releasing it in January after the damage has been done. I guess there's only a small chance Apple will be able to make the Maps significantly better in 3 months.
Even in the worker-hating, employer-loving USA, it's relatively uncommon. As many have posted here on Hacker News, actually looking at an employee's social network account (other than, maybe, LinkedIn) can open up all kinds of liabilities for discrimination lawsuits.

So banning the practice really just serves to codify what anyone with common sense was working out in their head anyway.
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By their reckoning, a 3GHz i5 or i7 with 4 cores would be a 12GHz processor. Not so different from their promised "13GHz". Their hype makes me suspicious.
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